I was just bringing this one up since the series returned to the Nicktoons Network.
I'm so happy to see Ren & Stimpy back, I kind of feel like saying "Happy Happy Joy Joy" myself. :swoon:
If you ask me, this series uses more gross-out gags than hidden adult gags by the way. Any moments with the series, feel free to discuss 'em here! :sly:
I pretty much have every episode I'd care to rewatch on videotape.
Now that my VCR is hooked up in my room again, I don't feel the need to record R&S on NickToons.
Ren and Stimpy isn't a show I can just sit down and watch anymore; I've seen all the episodes I'm interested in(aka the Spumco episodes from season 1 and 2) several times over, and usually the only way I can watch it is if I want to see a particular episode of it, like the other week when I wanted to watch Sven Hoek for some reason.
So yeah, I really couldn't care less if this is airing on Nicktoons again.
but guise what about apc
What's apc?
Some kind of restaurant or something?
Never heard of it.
Quote from: Avaitor on January 02, 2011, 12:02:18 AM
What's apc?
Some kind of restaurant or something?
Never heard of it.
o, u no
:sly:
A Piece of Crap?
Absolutely Putrid Catastrophe?
Adult Party Cartoon, anyone?
I hate you all.
You haven't seen the worst of it.
Not anytime soon, you haven't.
I don't have to dunk my head into the toilet in order to smell the shit.
It's still there.
It's still shit. :burn:
Hell in one episode Ralph Bakshi wiped his ass on Stimpy's shirt. Yep, shit.
I remembered hearing a long time ago that whole scene on the toilet in Fire Dogs 2 was based on an actual event between John K and Ralph Bakshi. True or not, that kind of disturbing.
Okay, here's a Ren & Stimpy cartoon I've been looking for. It's a late-era Games episode called "Reverend Jack".
If you don't get the story, it's based around what went wrong with the very show itself. Reverend Jack Cheese is a caricature of John K., with Ren & Stimpy being Bob Camp and company. In the story, Ren & Stimpy were eager to work for the Reverend until he goes apeshit, which causes the two to become disillusioned. Needless to say, the same thing happened behind the scenes with Camp and some of the Spumco crew; Camp in particular became really disillusioned with John and the two had a falling out.
And this whole "meat" business is a metaphor for animation.
So yeah, the episode is based on a true story.
http://vbox7.com/play:896055f4
Similar to how DarthGonzo has been reviewing Animaniacs, Speedy has been doing Ren & Stimpy for a while (http://renandstimpyreviews.blog.com/).
He's nearly done too, so it looks like we have some catching-up to do!
Clearly this means one of us should do Ed Edd n Eddy or something. :P
Well I will be going back to the Cartoon Cartoon series at some point, but I'm not able to pick and choose shots as well as Darth or Speedy do.
Ugh, so much bad muddled in there.
What an inconsistent show.
Quote from: Avaitor on April 22, 2013, 03:29:55 PM
Well I will be going back to the Cartoon Cartoon series at some point, but I'm not able to pick and choose shots as well as Darth or Speedy do.
Implying that their articles are only good for the pictures? If you want to do as well as them, then write. Besides, both of them offer only detailed synopses with very little critical content.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 23, 2013, 03:24:02 AM
Besides, both of them offer only detailed synopses with very little critical content.
I do WHAT now? Have you even READ any of my reviews?
Yeah, I can't really agree with there not being much critical content in the blogs. Darth and Speedy may not go into as much detail as say, the AV Club staff, but they certainly get into their shorts well enough.
Quote from: Avaitor on June 15, 2013, 04:33:33 PM
Yeah, I can't really agree with there not being much critical content in the blogs. Darth and Speedy may not go into as much detail as say, the AV Club staff, but they certainly get into their shorts well enough.
I've read the AV Club's Animaniacs reviews, and I definitely go into more detail than they do. It isn't easy to critique a show as schizophrenic as Animaniacs, and I think I'm doing a great job.
And what I don't mention in the review paragraphs I always try to cover in the screenshot captions. Definitely not like I post images with nothing to go with them.
Quote from: DarthGonzo on June 15, 2013, 05:17:37 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on June 15, 2013, 04:33:33 PM
Yeah, I can't really agree with there not being much critical content in the blogs. Darth and Speedy may not go into as much detail as say, the AV Club staff, but they certainly get into their shorts well enough.
I've read the AV Club's Animaniacs reviews, and I definitely go into more detail than they do. It isn't easy to critique a show as schizophrenic as Animaniacs, and I think I'm doing a great job.
And what I don't mention in the review paragraphs I always try to cover in the screenshot captions. Definitely not like I post images with nothing to go with them.
Well I mean, with some of their other shows in particular. But I mean, at the end of the day, Animaniacs and Ren & Stimpy are still kids shows. You can't really expect there to be as many themes or trinkets to pull out and discuss as Game of Thrones or even HIMYM.
I definitely prefer your Animaniacs reviews to the AV Club's, since you're more in tune with the characters, the animation, and the show's history.
I have faced my fear and conquered it.
There was one particular episode of Ren & Stimpy's Adult Party Cartoon which nearly made me throw up. Gave me the dry heaves. I'm not even exaggerating. To look back on it, I can't even imagine how an animated cartoon could've possibly had that kind of an impact on me, but it did. After about a decade, I decided to find the episode and watch it through. Yes, it still holds as being one of the most disgusting things I've seen. The episode was Onward Upward where Ren and Stimpy decide to.. upgrade their living conditions from the mouth of a street bum to a bar spittoon and get lots of free "food."
Mission: Success!!!!!!
To prove to myself further I could actually pull this off, I tried hard mode by eating a PB&J sandwich while watching. Seriously.
No incidents of regurgitation to report. I was triumphant and all was well!
How you like me now, John K? I just made you my bitch. Ha!! ;D
Quote from: Lord Il on August 03, 2013, 01:37:51 PM
There was one particular episode of Ren & Stimpy's Adult Party Cartoon which nearly made me throw up. Gave me the dry heaves. I'm not even exaggerating.
That's just about every episode of APC for me. :lol:
That was the first episode of APC that I watched. It was the worst animated show I had ever laid eyes on at that point.
Now I don't even think it is the worst episode.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on August 05, 2013, 07:46:23 PM
That was the first episode of APC that I watched. It was the worst animated show I had ever laid eyes on at that point.
Now I don't even think it is the worst episode.
I'd need to do a rewatch of the episodes to know for sure. And I'm in no hurry to subject myself to such brutality. :sweat:
Apparently John K. is (was?) working on a new one shot project, "Cans Without Labels" starring George Liquor. The premise sounds fun. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_KpzgeQGEI)
The S;limed! Facebook page just posted this little rarity.
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John K drew this on a napkin with crayons to Vanessa Coffey, a very big part of the creation of the Nicktoons, around the time the show was picked up. Pretty cool, huh?
It looks like it was drawn on a tortilla.
Yeah, I was just thinking that.
Following Nick's continuing trend of revivals, Ren & Stimpy is coming back.
Yes, again.
Thankfully, it will just be a theatrical short (http://www.animationscoop.stfi.re/interview-25-years-later-directors-bob-camp-and-bill-wray-remember-the-ren-stimpy-show) that will air before the next SpongeBob movie, not a TV special like the others. Considering how far downhill the show went post-Spumco, I'm glad Nick is playing it safe.
Hey the Games Era is Season 1 and 2-quality when compared to the Neo-Spumco era.
If they focus on the slapstick and exaggerated animation that characterized R&S at it's best and abstain from the uncomfortable, mean-spirited obscenities that plagued it at it's worst, then it could be a fun short. I just pray they don't give John K. free reign to do whatever he wants like in APS. His unfiltered sense of humor is too sick and depraved for anyone else to enjoy.
Well, if it's being shown before the SpongeBob movie, I doubt that he'll get free reign again.
I only looked at some of this interview, but if I remember what I've read before, he was doing storyboards for a R&S short to be a part of the second SpongeBob movie, but that was scrapped. I think now is time for a short, with all the current revivals happening.
APC is proof that he should never be in complete control of the characters again. Bringing him in for simple shorts is probably a good idea.
To think he's tried to peddle the idea that Viacom forced him to go so hogwild on Adult Party Cartoon, which is laughable because the other short-lived cartoons on there weren't even half as nasty as it was.
So John K. is a creep (https://www.buzzfeed.com/arianelange/john-kricfalusi-ren-stimpy-underage-sexual-abuse?utm_term=.aunJLx5J0#.qbBEjdWEn).
In all honestly though, who here is surprised?
Relevant clip from the Adult Party Cartoon DVD. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msA11gdH_uU)
We all knew he was an asshole, just never knew to what extant. Really disturbing story.
Sucks too because I've kinda been getting back into the original show, last week I went to the clearance sales at Toys R Us and found Ren and Stimpy plushes and figures(TRU has a bunch of 90's Nick stuff, as an aside) that I picked up, so I decided to rewatch some of the show.
Not surprised he's a predator in the least. Known for having a bad temper, which seems to be part of the profile of Hollywood pedos. I used to enjoy Ren and Stimpy a lot, my brothers used to fight each other all the time when we were little but watching the show was one of the only times they'd settle and laugh together with me. Hate that this was going on behind the scenes.
Thank God he got booted after the first season, so the show in my eyes isn't completely tainted. Never agreed that the Games Animation episodes were bad, they had some gems then too.
https://twitter.com/Afternoon_Lady/status/979479753857093635
EDIT: John K.'s Twitter has been deleted.
We all knew this was coming. The fact that it took this long is the surprising part.
It doesn't stop. (https://twitter.com/TopographicFish/status/982431074293899264)
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Jesus.
also The Splat is pulling Ren and Stimpy reruns now. https://twitter.com/nickandmore/status/982449459853496320
Yikes. Hopefully he'll spend the rest of his life in the prison cell he deserves.
I also hope he gets thrown in the slammer.
That said, I really hope Ren and Stimpy is only off Nick's other channel temporarily. He only worked on the first season, they don't need to take it off permanently just because their creator was a creep. I haven't rewatched R&S in ages but I don't want people who worked on it that had nothing to do with what happened lose out royalties over this.
He did the first two seasons, although I believe he was let go near the end of season 2. That's still only about a third of the show's run though, so it shouldn't sully the rest of it. I'd say that maybe the Spumco run should be retired, but if I recall right, Nickelodeon already discards a pretty significant fraction of the whole run already.
Also, that may have been a fake account? Either way, I have no sympathy for Kricfalusi.
Really puts Ren Seeks Help in a new light.
I've seen people on other boards bring that up. Also puts that episode where they hang out with that kid with the deranged father in a new light.
John finally replied about this situation.
Spoiler
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Creepy as shit. Making every other line about himself helps nothing.
Okay, what? Ren and Stimpy reboot? (https://www.cbr.com/ren-stimpy-reimagined-comedy-central/?utm_content=bufferc0ee9&utm_medium=Social-Distribution&utm_source=CBR-TW&utm_campaign=CBR-TW)
I just don't understand the reason for this. Besides having a disgraced creator and a previous disastrous reboot, the show isn't exactly quite as popular as it used to be, even in the nostalgic market. From what I've seen from 90's Nick fans, it would be a smarter investment to follow up the Rocko or Arnold movie with another season for either of those.
I guess it kind of makes sense in that Comedy Central is looking for more programming, particularly animation, as it's going through an identity crisis. It makes sense to pair R&S with Beavis and Butthead, as Viacom has done in the past. But still, make something else.
Bob Camp wasn't even informed of this.
(https://i.imgur.com/6SH3xPG.png)
Who is this even for? With Beavis & Butthead their concept is their stupidity & it would be interesting to see how their stupidity has adapted to the current times. Clone High at least ended on a cliffhanger, so you could at least continue off of that. Jodie is at least a follow up to a character in Daria & can somewhat work. I'm still surprised they decided to dust off Ren and Stimpy for this, considering how APC was pretty much the thing that put the series on ice before everyone decided to finally cut John K out of the animation sphere with his behavior. Then again, if it wasn't for the allegations, I'm pretty sure that his failed attempt at making Cans Without Labels probably killed his career for good. I could have sworn that I read that Bob Camp said that he tried to pitch a Ren & Stimpy short to run in front of the 2nd Spongebob Movie, but the Paramount executives thought that RS brand was poison thanks to APC.
Quote from: Avaitor on August 05, 2020, 12:39:40 PM
From what I've seen from 90's Nick fans, it would be a smarter investment to follow up the Rocko or Arnold movie with another season for either of those.
Yeah, they couldn't wipe the dust off that Patakis pitch? Or call Jhonen to make more Zim? They had options to dig up other shows for CC. Why choose the cartoon made by a child groomer over those?
As long as the pedophile is not involved (and its been said he's not going to make a single penny from this reboot either), I'll give this a shot.
Bob Camp states the reboot may have been shelved.
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Good news if true. John K's terrible behavior would have been more than enough to shelve any further continuation of the franchise, but even besides that and the piss-poor reception of APC, I have to ask- is there really a need for more Ren & Stimpy today? The show's content really seems like something better suited to stay in the 90's.
Big if true. I still want to know what made them think that making RS again was a good idea.
Quote from: Avaitor on September 14, 2020, 01:05:56 PM
is there really a need for more Ren & Stimpy today? The show's content really seems like something better suited to stay in the 90's.
I don't think there is. Especially since Ren & Stimpy creation mostly just came from a guy who hated how the animation scene was back in those days. RS was basically counter-culture to the whole scene. Besides, animation is pretty much booming nowadays where you can get a lot of different content wherever you look. Doesn't matter if it's TV, streaming, or even internet made cartoons, you can find anything for anyone now.
Yeah, no matter how much you separate art from the artist, almost every press interview or discussion on the new R&S was always going to have one mention of "So why did they reboot a cartoon created by a guy who groomed underaged girls?" It's like remaking Fat Albert, because whoever remakes the show will keep having to explain why their version is separated from the original due to the creator's actions, yet somehow have to rationalize why they're making a reboot in the first place. Sure, one could argue that in a way they're "taking back" the brand from the soiled hands of the creator, similar to how modern Cthulhu Mythos writers peel away Lovecraft's views from the stories, but unlike Lovecraft, John K's still alive. No matter how much the new show attempted to distance itself from him, John K was always going to find some benefit from this even if he isn't paid a cent in residuals, whether it be through interviews or simply attention.
The Comedy Central series is still happening, and it's being animated by an all-woman studio. (http://www.nickalive.net/2021/11/awesome-inc-to-produce-new-ren-stimpy.html)
A clip from the reboot has been leaked.
https://twitter.com/cartoonupdates/status/1741898641194074612