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Title: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 02, 2011, 06:57:04 PM
In my humble opinion (which is basically fact in this mere mortal realm), Boy Meets World is the best sitcom ever made, and arguably the best live-action show ever made, at least out of the shows that I have seen.

I love every aspect of this show, from its comedy to its drama to its characters, each of who get to see tons of development through great and meaningful writing.

I would so love to get my hands on the season sets for this series.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 02, 2011, 07:30:44 PM
Any word on when season 5 is coming to DVD?

The first 4 are rather cheap now, and are still fun to watch today. I just wish a channel (any channel) would show the reruns on any sort of frequency. This was the show that made TGIF to me as a kid, and I wish there were more sitcoms like it today.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on January 02, 2011, 08:04:45 PM
Season 4 is one of those things I asked for during Christmas, but just plain forgot to remind my mom about it.

I can't afford to get it right now, but sooner or later I do want to hit it up. I'm afraid if I don't, we won't get season 5.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: No-Personality on January 14, 2011, 08:44:21 AM
I don't have any love for this show at all.

Best sitcom? Roseanne trumps it in its' sleep! When it comes to dealing with complex issues in a genuinely complex way, that's where BMW has to run off with it's little tail curled up.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Commode on January 14, 2011, 09:34:57 AM
Strange.  I like Roseanne, but I wouldn't call it the best sitcom, or even better than BMW.  As far as greatest sitcoms go, there's so many to consider.  What about Seinfeld or Married... With Children?  Fresh Prince and Home Improvement?

Hopefully though, we can all agree that The Cosby Show is just awful.  Never understood that one.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on January 14, 2011, 10:28:41 AM
I'd go with either MWC or HIMYM as the greatest sitcom ever myself.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: No-Personality on January 14, 2011, 10:48:37 AM
Quote from: SNES Chalmers on January 14, 2011, 09:34:57 AM
Strange.  I like Roseanne, but I wouldn't call it the best sitcom, or even better than BMW.  As far as greatest sitcoms go, there's so many to consider.  What about Seinfeld or Married... With Children?  Fresh Prince and Home Improvement?

Hopefully though, we can all agree that The Cosby Show is just awful.  Never understood that one.
I sure do. As a kid, it bored me to tears. Now I think it's also not very bright either. The husband and wife had a great relationship (far as what little I remember) but the kids were made out of cardboard.

Roseanne wasn't always very funny, but it was definitely clever. And much smarter than BMW. Sounds like you might need to brush up on it. Especially seasons 4 and 5. Watch those 2 and you won't even question it's a better show, let alone disagree. BMW is pure teeny-bopper. That's all it was. Not necessarily stupid teeny-bopper, but compared to Roseanne- so light weight that it practically was made of air.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on February 07, 2011, 06:02:52 PM
Season 5 was just confirmed for a May release. Great, since this means that they aren't dropping it already.

I still need to get season 4, though, as well as the first two.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 07, 2011, 07:07:45 PM
Looks like this might be the first TGIF show to get a complete series release.

Good on them, I just need to get it.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on February 07, 2011, 07:33:13 PM
I thought Full House had a complete release, as well.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 07, 2011, 07:41:23 PM
Oh yeah, it did. I guess I just forget that it was a TGIF show. I mainly remember it being on Tuesdays... from what I can remember, anyway.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on February 07, 2011, 07:51:47 PM
I guess since it's owned by WB it's easy to forget.

Also because it's fucking terrible, but that's beside the point. :P
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Foggle on February 07, 2011, 08:09:08 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LTzejcjKEcU&feature=related
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 07, 2011, 08:18:29 PM
Save it for the Full House thread.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on February 07, 2011, 08:21:19 PM
We have one?
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 07, 2011, 08:25:44 PM
Natch.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 24, 2011, 12:55:19 AM
Forgot to mention that I got the season 3 DVD (last copy and only season there) last week. The show still remains very funny, as I forgot exactly how dumb Eric was at that point. There are a lot of great episodes here, and no real duds, so I hope I can get the rest of the seasons soon.

I still stand by my opinion that it is the best family sitcom out there. The show is just wacky and surreal enough and touches on serious issues just the right amount.

These are really freaking cheap, too. That's a lot of bang for your buck.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on February 24, 2011, 12:20:12 PM
Nice. Season 3 is IMO when it gets particularly good.

WalMart has a st where you can buy the first 2 seasons for $20. I'd consider getting it if I had the money, but even then, season 4 is more of a priority for me.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Commode on March 04, 2011, 07:07:24 AM
Just caught an episode of this on ABC Family(the one where Cory wishes Mr. Feeny will get sick, and when he does Cory regrets it).  Goddamn I really hate that nerdy kid in his class.  So fucking annoying, and just begging for some one to punch him out.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on March 04, 2011, 09:30:46 AM
Minkus? I liked him when I was younger, but the older I get, the more useless I find season 1.

I do think his absence between then and the graduation episode was weird though.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 09, 2011, 08:09:06 PM
Season 1 was a good start, but yeah, the series gets way better after that.

I didn't really like the way the Graduation episode pulled in old characters like that, though. It ruined Franky (who was underused) and a point of a pretty good season 3 sub plot, and pointlessly brought back Minkus while pointing out that there was no reason Mr. Turner should have vanished after season 4.

To be honest, I think season 5 is surprisingly weak overall. There's a lot of weird stuff in that season, and I think season 6 was a real improvement.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: ToonFaithful on July 19, 2011, 02:53:27 PM
I've just started getting into this show, thanks to ABC Family. Watched "And Then There Was Shawn" this morning. Funny episode, really funny episode although the creepy janitor creep'd me out. There were some funny lines that had me goin: like how after Kenny gets killed I guess the gang pulled a South Park reference with "OH MY GOD, HE KILLED KENNY!", "I'll always remember how tall he was". Good episode, it's a pro I didn't watch this when I was little because that janitor would give me nightmares!
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on July 19, 2011, 02:57:27 PM
This is my favorite scene from that episode. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAtrOKmay2A)

Really interesting one overall.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 19, 2011, 05:24:22 PM
Funnier than the lousy Scream sequels, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 07, 2011, 09:49:41 PM
I've been watching a lot of Boy Meets World recently every morning on TV before going to work at the pharmacy. I've mostly been reliving some good memories, but a little while back they re-aired the episodes where Shawn tries to cope with Chet's death. I remember that back when I saw that as a kid I was pretty shocked that a family-friendly sitcom at that time would tackle the subject of death so seriously with a family member related to a main character in the series. For those few episodes the humor was kept to a minimum and almost non-existent, but I really loved how well the writers and actors were able to handle the drama in the series. Shawn's growth during this character arc of his is perhaps one of the most memorable character arcs in the series, and it made his character go down an interesting route for the remainder of the series, in his own personality and maturity, as well as his relationship to other characters in the cast. Those are some truly heartfelt episodes, IMO.

Also, I now remember why I love Eric and Mr. Feeney so much. Honestly, I think their interactions are hands down my favorite part of the show in general. I mean, on their own their both great characters (Eric being the funny one and Mr. Feeney being the insightful one), and if you think about it they couldn't seem to be more opposite as characters, but when they interact in just about every episode that features them, they really make for both the most humorous and more interesting parts of the series for me. Both contribute their unique character traits to make some truly fun scenes, but they also have a lot of strong meaningful moments as well. If I had to pick a favorite character in this entire series, it would be a tie between the 2 of them. ;)
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 20, 2011, 10:23:14 PM
I just saw the ending about a week ago on ABC family in the morning, right before I went to work. I always hated how the final 2 episodes had all of those pointless flash-back scenes. It really killed a lot of the drama being build-up towards the finale. But even then those final 2 scenes in the series make the 2-part finale totally worth watching. I mean, the scene where Cory has a talk with his youngest brother (who can barely even understand full sentences at that point) is so touching, and it really makes you see how much Cory grew since he was an 11 year old boy, throughout the entire series. I also chuckled at the irony of Cory finally understanding the meaning of "Boy Meets World."

The 2nd scene where the 4 main characters gather up in Mr. Feeney's classroom for him to give his last bit of advice to them as their long-time teacher and mentor, and for them to say their goody-byes to him, ALWAYS brings freaking tears to my eyes. Maybe its just because I know its the end of the series, but there's something about that scene that I always find so touching, personally. Maybe its just me, but I feel that its one of the most emotionally powerful and gripping scenes that I have ever seen out of a "family sitcom," which really may not be saying a lot given the nature of the genre, but it honestly means quite a lot to me.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on August 27, 2011, 04:18:36 PM
Appropriate set. (http://skyfireaboveicebelow.tumblr.com/post/9470105071/me-every-time)
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 31, 2012, 10:34:51 PM
Just a reminder, (for myself too) the whole series is out on DVD now. After Full House, I believe this is the second TGIF show to get a full release. And I still need the last few seasons.

As a whole, I'd say season 3 and 4 are the best seasons. Season 3 had them perfecting the style from season 1 and 2 (which are also very good, but not as good as 3 and 4), and season 4 managed to be even funnier,  have more heart, and have the greatest string of episodes in the series.

Season 5 as I mentioned before seemed jarring to me then and it still does now. I'm not sure if a new head writer or director took over here, but the tone seems violently opposed to continuity and coherency a lot of the time, focusing more on episodic plots than characters. The plots are too soap opera-y a lot of the time, a lot of characters are shafted and forgotten (Frankie is severely missed and then returns assassinated as a character, the teachers are MIA and Feeny seems to be it) and a lot of it feels like a gimmicky teen sitcom... Which is odd for this show. What saves this season to me is the Eric and Jack stuff, and the fact that the writing and acting is still as funny as before (though sometimes too goofy) despite the weird issues I have with it that I'm sure are mine alone. It's a good season, though.

The last two seasons were a lot wackier, but the writing held up and the serious aspects were more refined and less "will they-won't they" from season 5 remembering not to be too over the top, but still not forget the sitcom roots of the earlier seasons. Oddly, I think Eric as a character is a bit overblown in this era, but it's hard for me to really hate on it when it's just so funny ("Ow, dat hot.") despite how crazy he got.

So yeah, I still quite enjoy this series a lot, and of all the TGIF series from the 90s it remains the best now just as it was when it aired. Now if only it would be aired on TV again...

Also, this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYihf3zrcp4).
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on February 01, 2012, 12:59:35 AM
ABC Family has been airing it again for a while now.

And I already plowed through season 4, which I got for Christmas along with S5, which I'll be tackling soon. Still as good as ever. And it does seem funny that they promote Eric as a bit of a misunderstood genius during this part of the show's run, when he deteriorates to such a dumbass by the time he goes to college.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 09, 2012, 06:16:13 PM
So, I just re-watched all of season 3 of BMW, and for the most part it was as good as I remember. One thing that kind of bugs me is that in the last episode of the season Cory brings up an issue that was never at all present in the series at any point before. He says he barely knows his brother and that they rarely ever spent time together, but there was never any indication of this being a big issue at any point before. Maybe I could overlook it, but the fact is that on the contrary there are lots of times in past episodes where Cory and Eric were both involved with the main plot or dilemma and worked together and did stuff. They had plenty of interactions with each other. I just felt that the whole issue for that episode came completely out of left-field and didn't really have that much to do with any character development or sub-plots that had built up throughout the course of the season.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 09, 2012, 06:36:03 PM
I'm currently watching through my copy of season 4 which I just got, man that one has a great string of episodes.

Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on February 09, 2012, 06:16:13 PM
So, I just re-watched all of season 3 of BMW, and for the most part it was as good as I remember. One thing that kind of bugs me is that in the last episode of the season Cory brings up an issue that was never at all present in the series at any point before. He says he barely knows his brother and that they rarely ever spent time together, but there was never any indication of this being a big issue at any point before. Maybe I could overlook it, but the fact is that on the contrary there are lots of times in past episodes where Cory and Eric were both involved with the main plot or dilemma and worked together and did stuff. They had plenty of interactions with each other. I just felt that the whole issue for that episode came completely out of left-field and didn't really have that much to do with any character development or sub-plots that had built up throughout the course of the season.
It's not that he wasn't around him, so to speak. I think it was just that Eric never really tried to know Cory during the first three seasons, he mostly teased and ignored him and I guess he couldn't see past that. And the reality finally got to him that his relationship might never improve beyond just squabbling with each other. I think it was more of a subtle thing they built into a plot point, but yeah it does come on a bit strong but I do think it fits right in to the show. Eric did kind of never really did treat Cory as much more than his annoying little brother at that point in the show even when they worked together, but it was never really seen as much of a big deal. After all, brothers are like that, right?

And to be fair, this does actually change their dynamic in the show and in season 4 their relationship is a lot stronger. While they do rib each other like brothers do, they tend to actually do more things together and Eric sees him as more of an equal as opposed to just his younger brother.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 09, 2012, 09:50:00 PM
Well, before addressing your point, I just want to point out that I did in fact like the episode itself at its core. While I do feel that it was kind of forced in terms of continuity, having an older brother of my own, I can completely relate to how that particular episode portray's Cory and Erics relationship. In fact my older brother still largely ignores me to this day, so watching it now really got me reflecting on my own life a little bit, which is kind of a testament to how timeless this show can be sometimes.

That said, I do feel that Eric did treat Cory with more respect than just an annoying little brother at various points in the series. There were numerous times within the first 3 seasons where he tried to cheer Cory up when he was in a slump, and in the episode previous to the season finale, he even went so far as to cover for Cory when he went to Disney World for 2 days to try and get back together with Topanga. I do agree though that after this episode, Cory and Eric had a noticeably stronger brotherly bond and had way more interactions together in later episodes of the series, but I do still feel that they had a reasonably solid relationship before this episode as well.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 13, 2012, 08:21:17 PM
I'm on season 4 of BMW. I really find Shawn's story-arc revolving around trying to find a home and then in this season trying to be a family with his parents again to be one of the most well-written and compelling character portions of the show. I also like how it doesn't have a happy ending to it and that by the end of everything Shawn has to learn to rely on his friends and treat them as family, and how he does end up having a much stronger bond with his friends because of that. I always felt that by the final season of the series Shawn could be considered as much a brother to Cory as Eric (in some cases even more so since they have been best friends since the beginning of the show).

Actually, one of the things that I liked best about this show in general was the sense of realism it had to it. It rarely ever sugar-coated any issues it tackled, and there were plenty of instances in which various characters suffered serious consequences for previous events, but I also like how they are realistically able to overcome their problems. That's probably why I liked this series so much, since for someone like me its really easy to relate to, as I've encountered many of the problems it tackles myself, in my own real life.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on February 29, 2012, 08:40:20 PM
(http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m06eca1k631qzv945o1_500.png)

RIP Davy Jones.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on June 21, 2012, 12:22:43 PM
You know, I've been thinking, and I believe that Shawn's character arc would've turned out stronger if he didn't go to college. During their senior year, the writers kept on pushing that he went to schol with Cory and Topanga, even though he didn't have the motivation for it and had just as much reason to not go. I think Shawn could've just found a job and stayed in Jack and Eric's dorm and not much really would have changed. College isn't for everyone, after all.

It also could have given Shawn more time to have his sabbatical after his dad died, and given him more time for thinking.

Otherwise, I really like his storyline over the course of the show. I think he had the strongest one of all.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 21, 2012, 05:21:56 PM
Yeah, Shawn definitely had the most interesting character arcs, mostly because he lead the most tragic life throughout the course of the series, what with him being poor, his un-biological mother running off twice (and him finding out that she wasn't his real mother only towards the end of the series) and his father dying. Also there was Mr. Turner who I could talk about but the show just wrote him off after that car accident episode, and I can't help but feel that it was too abrupt for a character was was honestly fairly important among the cast, especially since he had such a big impact on Shawn's life. It just didn't feel right the the show never even acknowledged him after season 4 ended. If his actor was leaving the show for good, it probably would have been a more substantial move to either kill off his character or send him off for good, since at least that way it would be a huge impact on Shawn that could be referenced throughout the rest of the series.

Other than Shawn, I also really liked Eric's character arc throughout the series. As someone who has an older brother who is honestly pretty smart when he gives a shit about something but is completely lazy and too hesitant to try for something that he doesn't think he can achieve, I can totally understand a lot of Eric's struggle throughout the show as he is just that type of character. The episode where he found an internship at the news station that he liked and didn't want to try for college anymore because he felt secure there is actually so similar to something that happened in my older brother's life that its a bit eerie, but it just goes to prove how experienced the writers were with handling serious coming of age situations in life. I mean, yeah, most of the time stuff in the show was played for laughs, but there is always a sort of truth in those scenarios that you can understand if you've been through them yourself or have seen other people you know go through those situations, and its a big reason for why the show has aged so well for me.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on June 21, 2012, 06:34:32 PM
You see, I really liked Eric's character arc too, except towards the end when they totally dumbed his character down. Even then, he was still mighty funny IMO, just not relatable in any capacity. And I especially liked his storyline in season 4 where he spent time out of school and fought to make it into Pennbrook.

But that's why I don't like the part of Shawn's storyline where he decides to go to college after all. The show already had a poignant subplot with one of its characters deciding if college was for him with Eric. I honestly think that Shawn would have turned out the same if he didn't go to Pennbrook. Didn't he join the army at the end of the show?
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 21, 2012, 06:36:42 PM
No, actually. His brother joined the Peace Corps, and Shawn went to live in New York with Cory, Topanga, and Eric (though what job he would have over there, I have no clue).

And yeah, they did really screw up with Eric's character in the final season, though for all intents and purposes his story arc was mostly done by the end of season 5, so I didn't mind them turning him into a comic relief character so much, and at least he got one serious episode analyzing his relationship with Cory in the final season, so he still had his moment. I do think it was kind of insulting to his character to play him off as a complete moron in the final season, though, as that really ticks me off. It has been well established before that Eric is fairly intelligent when he's actually trying, and it was really annoying how they played him off as an oaf almost all of the time, as he was quite good with his social skills in previous seasons, as well. I honestly have no idea what the writers were doing with his character in the final season, but they really didn't treat him with the proper respect that he deserved as a character.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on June 21, 2012, 06:40:37 PM
You see, it's been so long since I've seen the finale that I forgot.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 26, 2012, 09:23:16 PM
I think the issue is that season 5 wasn't a good season for characters. It was funny, yes, but it seemed like a lot of characters and stories were just thrown out the window and little seemed to happen except that whole cheating thing. I like season 5 and all, but it's probably my least favorite season on a story and character level.

As for Shawn going to college, I think it was something he needed to do. Shawn, unlike Eric, actually was always motivated to succeed and only seemed to come at a stumbling block when he was doing things he thought he shouldn't be doing like when his background was brought up. He was very insecure about his roots to the point where he seemed to think that living them out was the easiest way to make those issues go away, when clearly that never helped him out. I think he needed to go to college (stay in college is another thing entirely) in order to test himself to see if he was really better than what he considered himself. I don't think him not even trying to get in would have done much for his character.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on June 26, 2012, 09:29:01 PM
I guess you're right. I also just remembered the episode where he snuck into a philosophy class and really enjoyed it, even though his writing was awful.

Another thing that annoyed me a little about the later part of the show is how Morgan was almost completely written out. She wasn't one of the best characters to begin with, but it feels weird when you look back and see that she used to be a prominent part of the show, then just got completely swept under the rug by the time Eric goes to college. I guess that can be attested to how sitcom writers don't know how to write for girls, but I think it's sad that she never got to have Feeny as a teacher or got much advice from him.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 26, 2012, 09:43:17 PM
Yeah, Morgan was kind of pushed to the side, which was a shame. I was kind of hoping they would have split the plots like they did before for Cory and Eric and make it Cory/Eric and the gang and Morgan instead. Most of the group were together all the time anyway, focusing on someone else would have been nice. It's why I enjoyed the first 4 seasons most of all because they frequently had other characters than Cory and Shawn in the B-plot, showing a lot of characters getting by than just the duo. I was kind of hoping that would have continued with season 5.

But then season 5 did kind of destroy Mr. Turner and Franky, ratcheted Eric up pretty hard (and his plots lost a lot of heart), brought in way too much romance stuff, and the humor leaned too hard on the absurd most of the time. As I said, I still liked it, but I think season 6 brought it back a bit.

I dunno, I always thought there was some kind of change of the guard or something with BMW, because change isn't really gradual, it kind of just happens when Cory and Shawn enter senior year.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 26, 2012, 10:03:33 PM
Well, I didn't mind Morgan getting pushed to the side too much, even though I agree it would have been nice to see her get some moments to her character in the later seasons.

That said, I was pretty pissed at how they just wrote-off Franky like that. He actually had some decent character development in seasons 3 and 4 and actually became quite likable, yet they just completely ignored him in season 5, except when they brought him back for for just a little bit in the graduation episode and completely butchered his character by setting him back to the ground 0 of being a generic school bully when his character had already evolved so much past that point in season 4 (I really believe the writers of that episode probably didn't know anything about any episodes involving Franky).
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 26, 2012, 10:12:14 PM
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on June 26, 2012, 10:03:33 PMThat said, I was pretty pissed at how they just wrote-off Franky like that. He actually had some decent character development in seasons 3 and 4 and actually became quite likable, yet they just completely ignored him in season 5, except when they brought him back for for just a little bit in the graduation episode and completely butchered his character by setting him back to the ground 0 of being a generic school bully when his character had already evolved so much past that point in season 4 (I really believe the writers of that episode probably didn't know anything about any episodes involving Franky).
Graduation- Written by: Matthew Nelson & Bob Tischler

^The episode in question.

Sixteen Candles and Four-Hundred-Pound Men- Written by: Matthew Nelson
Fishing For Virna- Written by: Matthew Nelson (This episode has some really great Franky and Herman moments)

And most importantly:

New Friends and Old- Written by: Matthew Nelson

That's the episode where Franky turns a new leaf.

Either Bob Tischler completely rewrote Matthew Nelson's script, or Matthew Nelson forgot everything HE established. I'm wondering if this is like KOTH season 7 where they actively went to the staff and told them to throw continuity out the window, because I can't see how anyone could do something like that, but season 5 seems to actively avoid anything from previous seasons.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 26, 2012, 10:21:15 PM
Wow! In that case either Nelson's script was heavily tampered with or he just flat-out didn't care about Franky's character anymore, and just put him in there because it was a graduation episode and the staff wanted to get cameo's from all of Cory and Shawn's old classmates (which is probably why Minkus made a brief appearance as well).
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 26, 2012, 10:27:34 PM
To be honest, I would have preferred they kept Franky around as one of their friends. He was funny, he had a good personality, and he was definitely the best non-regular character on the show. They could have continued on with Herman being Morgan's friend, at least then should could have done more, too.

Either way, it might have been better had they completely forgot him instead of bringing him back like that in the graduation episode. Franky was way funnier and better as a character when he stopped bullying.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 26, 2012, 10:30:58 PM
Well, they did completely forget him. They just brought him back and gave him a few lines for that one graduation episode just for the sake of nostalgia rather than anything else.

I also think it would have been nice if they could have kept him around as as a friend to Cory and Shawn.

Instead they added in new characters instead, like Shawn's half-brother who I swear I believe was only added in just so that Eric could have his best friend equivalent to Cory, being that Shawn was Cory's best friend.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 26, 2012, 10:40:48 PM
Yeah, they forgot Franky like they forgot Mr. Turner, and most of the other non-regular characters in season 5 like the teachers. I'm not quite sure why they did that, part of the fun was all the different characters.

Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on June 26, 2012, 10:30:58 PMInstead they added in new characters instead, like Shawn's half-brother who I swear I believe was only added in just so that Eric could have his best friend equivalent to Cory, being that Shawn was Cory's best friend.
Yeah, Jack kind of felt shoe-horned in. He had some good moments, but mostly he was a whipping boy for Shawn and a foil for Eric. I think dumb Eric and wistful Franky would have made a good team on their own if they were given the chance.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 26, 2012, 10:48:24 PM
I honestly hate how much they dumbed down Eric, though. I mean, yeah he had some really funny moments, but Eric was never a "dumb" character before season 5 started. Sure, he made stupid choices sometimes and he'd act immature at times, but he had proven to be good at stuff that he put effort in and his character was surprisingly effective at delivering some of the most touching moments of the series in the first 4 seasons. So, to see him just turned into a complete idiot so abruptly in season 5 was really frustrating for me since I was a fan of his character up until the end of the 4th season.

At least they did give him some genuinely good moments in some episodes, though, like in season 6 when he brought home that orphan for Christmas, and in that episode in season 7 where he confronted Cory about completely ignoring their brotherhood for the past few years. Still, they went a bit too overboard with how they made him the dumb hyper-active guy of the group. His character honestly deserved better treatment than that, IMO.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 26, 2012, 10:56:18 PM
I agree with that. Eric was mostly a normal guy who got too excited or wound up which made him rush to do really dumb things. Most of his "dumb" comments were because he was too lazy to study.

He had some really good dumb moments in the last three seasons (the one where he tries to impress Rachel is funny because it's a ridiculous plan he cooked up in like two minutes) mostly when they remember that his excited personality and impulsiveness is what makes him do dumb things and not just because he's functionally retarded.

And when they remember that he's just a good guy, like the adoption episode. Those were good, too.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on June 26, 2012, 10:59:28 PM
Yeah, as a whole, I don't like how they dumbed down Eric's character so radically near the end. But I'd be lying if I said that all of his stuff during the wedding planning episode didn't have me in stitches.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 26, 2012, 11:20:54 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on June 26, 2012, 10:59:28 PM
Yeah, as a whole, I don't like how they dumbed down Eric's character so radically near the end. But I'd be lying if I said that all of his stuff during the wedding planning episode didn't have me in stitches.
IMO, that was completely in-character for him. He was just completely over-stretched trying to give his brother the best wedding possible that he forgot exactly how to do it right.  :D

It was the weird stuff like the Truman Show thing that was off to me.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 26, 2012, 11:23:50 PM
Yeah, I have to say that Eric was hilarious during those episodes, but what I liked about him is that while he had that "dumb guy" attitude and act going on, he was actually being really clever like his old self and did some really classic Eric-like scheming with how he fixed Cory and Topanga's wedding in that fancy room that they couldn't afford by claiming that they were from a rich family. That was Eric being mischievous and hilarious but also pretty smart and a fast-thinker at the same time. So, in other words, it completely fit in with his character.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on October 24, 2012, 11:19:04 PM
(http://24.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mcf6j9S2Oy1qcip6io1_500.png)

Discuss.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 24, 2012, 11:26:12 PM
I remember this episode....I didn't like it that much. I suppose I'm just not a fan of these "alternate reality" type episodes in sitcoms like this.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on October 24, 2012, 11:26:54 PM
I think that was at the point where the show tried to get away from the darkness of the sixth season, only to go straight to wacky.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on October 24, 2012, 11:30:19 PM
No one pointed out the TARDIS reference?

I haven't seen this episode in years, but now that I've seen Casablanca a few (dozen) times since I last watched it, maybe I should refresh my memory.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on October 24, 2012, 11:31:06 PM
Seems more like a Bill & Ted reference though.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 04, 2012, 01:26:17 PM
A spin off/sequel is in the works. (http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/showthread.php?p=4737933#post4737933)

If they can get a hold of the same staff as the original (or at least people as good as them), then this has potential.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on November 04, 2012, 01:28:21 PM
Michael Jacobs is working on it from what I understand. idk who else.

I'm afraid that this will turn out to be another Disney Channel kidcom, just with Cory and Topanga. If so, that would really sully the legacy of the show.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 04, 2012, 01:31:26 PM
I would hope that doesn't happen, since Boy Meets World was not like that, but if it involves the original people (or at least key figures) then I still hold hope.

Personal wish- Franky is a teacher.  :lol:
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 04, 2012, 01:37:09 PM
Actually, thinking about it, this is something that would probably fit better on ABC Family than it would on the Disney Channel. Since, you know, they're actually producing fare pretty close to traditional sitcoms (with Melissa & Joey and Baby Daddy) and something like this would fit right in there.

They're also airing BMW reruns every day, so the channel is well aware of it, too.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on November 04, 2012, 01:46:44 PM
True, but Disney would get much more of an audience than ABC Family. And at the end of the day, it is the place that the show became the most identified with. The show did okay on ABC, but it didn't really become as big of a favorite as it is now until Disney started airing repeats of it.

I'd still prefer it to air on either ABCs, but I can see why DC is getting it instead.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 04, 2012, 01:53:05 PM
Good point, I just hope it's allowed to breathe and doesn't get sucked into the fame and fortune trap of about every other Disney Channel live action (aside from Good Luck Charlie)... I mean, one of the episodes of the original show was about how it was okay to not be a star and be a normal person.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on November 04, 2012, 02:03:36 PM
It doesn't sound like that's the case, and unless Disney has more of say about it, hopefully it won't be.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 09, 2012, 09:17:53 PM
Apparently this is getting fast tracked. I hope that's a sign of confidence, but I'm also not hoping it to be too rushed.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on November 09, 2012, 09:20:22 PM
That seems to happen with all Disney shows. They mention that a new show will come out supposedly a year or so in advance, and when they get the greenlight, they speed up production to make the show premiere ASAP.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on November 27, 2012, 12:15:00 PM
QuoteFirst of all, let me say that you, the fans of Boy Meets World, have been awesome. That word is often used incorrectly by people, including myself, on a daily basis but you have truly been awe inspiring. You, yes, even YOU, are the reason that Girl Meets World WILL BE MADE. J

I do not know how many BMW cast members will be returning for GMW, or how often they may appear if and/or when they do appear. I am going to do my best to not speak for others with this open post. But because I have known Michael Jacobs, Ben Savage, Rider Strong, Will Friedle, and Bill Daniels for 19 years, I know we share many of the same feelings regarding the 7 wonderful years we spent making BMW. Those years were among the most warm, hilarious, insightful, educational years of my life and I wouldn?t trade them for the world. Another thing I wouldn?t trade for anything is the integrity and the heart with which BMW was made. I promise with the entirety of my heart that we will make GMW with the same honesty, innocence, and intelligence that you learned to expect from BMW.

I say this because making the decision to do the show involved more conversations than you can possible imagine. These conversations were with the same people I mentioned above because they were all instrumental in creating and maintaining the heart of BMW. The first comment out of every person?s mouth was, ?Let?s only do it if we think we can create something as special as we did with BMW.? When the news leaked that GMW was in the making, literally days after I first heard about the project myself, Michael Jacobs and I had a conversation and we talked about how we were both so blown away by the reactions from all of you. We felt honored. We felt nostalgic. We felt touched by the excitement in your comments, tweets, Tumblr, and Facebook posts. But most of all, we felt inspired. We felt inspired to bring these characters back to life and to tell you more of their stories. Michael said to me, ?Danielle, when I read what people say BMW meant to them it makes me so very proud of all of us. I think it is important for us, for as long as we are fortunate enough to have this opportunity to do GMW, that we all look each other in the eyes every so often and make sure we know we have something of value to offer the audience.? I think we have that with GMW.

I say that so that I can say this: GMW is a new show. It isn?t BMW brought back to life but in current day. It will have familiar faces, familiar themes, and familiar messages. It will also have new faces, new themes, and new messages. BMW never spoke down to the audience and we are going to do our best to never do that with GMW. But please keep in mind that this there will be episode 1, of season 1, of a brand new show. We started at the same place with BMW but we evolved and we evolved quickly. For those of you who knew and loved BMW, please allow this show to evolve as well. Stick with us. Give us a chance.

In the meantime, a sincere thank you to every one of you for all of your tweets (I read them all, every day. It killed me not to be able to talk about it!), even those of you who asked us not to do it. There were only a few of you but I know why you don?t want GMW to happen and I appreciate that BMW meant enough to you that you don?t want to see its legacy tarnished. I can assure you, we don?t want that either. Your love, dedication, and appreciation means more to us than you could ever know and it will be the driving force behind our passion to make the best show we can possibly make. Thank you for giving us the chance to do it again.

Love,

Danielle

From Danielle Fishel's tumblr. She and Ben Savage have officially been announced to return to the show. And it sounds quite promising now, IMO.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 27, 2012, 04:44:45 PM
The way she talks about it, she seems to get it. I'm really looking forward to how this turns out, but I really hope people don't just slam it to the ground after one episode or anything. If anything, this group deserves our trust.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 30, 2012, 02:55:31 PM
Rider Strong is not involved in the new show... yet. (http://www.theinsider.com/tv/57257_Rider_Strong_Girl_Meets_World_Statement/index.html)

Which is understandable since it's mainly about Cory's kid, but I do hope the chance for Shawn and Eric to show up are still in the cards, if anyone.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on November 30, 2012, 03:01:59 PM
I think right now they just want to focus on making the show and character their own, and keep BMW appearances to just Cory and Topanga for now. Like how Frasier only had Lilith appear in the first season, and saved guest spots for the rest of the Cheers cast for later.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on January 29, 2013, 04:25:26 PM
Well, here's Cory and Topanga's kid! (http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/01/28/boy-meets-world-daughter-rowan-blanchard/)

I can't say I've heard of her. But the fact that she's about the same age Ben was when the show started up already makes me a little nostalgic.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 29, 2013, 04:28:48 PM
Wow, she looks a lot like Danielle and Ben. I can't wait to see how this turns out.

I see Ensatsu-Ken hasn't once commented on this new show. That sort of surprises me.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 30, 2013, 05:28:11 PM
Michael Jacobs interview (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/girl-meets-world-michael-jacobs-416846)

QuoteWhat?s the appeal of doing a project like this right now, 13 years after "Boy Meets World" went off the air?

The appeal to me was exactly the same appeal that I had in doing the original, which is that I look around at the landscape and I look at my children and what is on television for them, and there are very few shows that are like this, what we aspire this show to be.

I think of "Boy Meets World" and I think of "The Wonder Years" and I think of "Happy Days", which I grew up with. The thing that delineates this show is that I don?t want this to be anything except the natural experience of actually growing up in this current world. I?m reading a lot about, ?Is this girl going to be a singer? Is this girl going to aspire to be an actress??

This is a girl who is going to aspire to put one foot in front of the other and to try and understand the confusion that is her life. That?s what I think becomes real about this show. The stories we intend on doing are stories about a real girl who is coming of age.

The beauty of this show is the girl will have two parents whom the world has already watched come of age and their natural confusion in the next step of Cory and Topanga?s own evolution: being parents.

I?m looking at what the condition of the world is right now for kids who are growing up and if we can offer the same sort of guidance and entertainment that "Boy Meets World" offered, then the show is a good thing to do right now.
The reaction this show garners should be interesting.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Commode on March 21, 2013, 09:34:11 PM
(http://cdn2.maxim.com/maxim/sites/default/files/182danielle_exclusive_coverslide.jpg)

Woah.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on March 21, 2013, 09:34:48 PM
This is going to be the first issue I bought since Cobie was on the cover.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 21, 2013, 09:56:36 PM
Bob Saget has a very memorable mention in the interview.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on March 21, 2013, 11:57:32 PM
(http://distilleryimage2.instagram.com/e8f417de923d11e29ebd22000aaa21ed_7.jpg)

(http://i47.tinypic.com/5jwx2u.jpg)

Well, looky here.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 22, 2013, 12:39:49 PM
Ooo, cool! They started.  :D
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 22, 2013, 03:41:00 PM
Damn, Will Friedle sure looks different. At least we know that his voice wouldn't sound that different, though, as he has been voice-acting since BMW for years, and he can still pull off that high-pitched sort of voice that Eric always did on the show (his Blue Beetle voice from Batman: TB&TB really reminds me how he acts for Eric, actually).
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 22, 2013, 03:47:26 PM
Yeah, I'm sure he can still pull off being Eric if he wanted to. I really can't wait to see how this turns out.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on March 22, 2013, 03:53:22 PM
Actually, I read that he's on the fence about reprising Eric. The old guys just came on the set to surprise the rest of the cast. We have no idea if they're going to be on the show yet.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 22, 2013, 03:59:32 PM
Well, here's hoping at least.  :)
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 22, 2013, 04:19:11 PM
Well, to be clear, I was well-aware that none of the old cast (minus Cory and Topanga) are going to be regulars on the new show, but I do strongly suspect that we will at least get guest-appearances by each of them on at least one occasion.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on March 23, 2013, 05:20:01 PM
Well it turns out William Daniels is at least going to appear on the show. (http://tvline.com/2013/03/23/girl-meets-world-cast-mr-feeny-returns-william-daniels/)

Can't wait!
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 23, 2013, 07:16:17 PM
MR. FEENY! :joy:
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 23, 2013, 08:30:32 PM
Geez, I come home to this and the DuckTales VA. Quite interesting.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on March 25, 2013, 11:51:42 AM
Feeny's not the only one coming back. (http://www.celebrityballa.com/2013/03/ben-savage/meets-girl-returns-exclusive-world-harley-bully)

Not who I was hoping for or expecting, but hey, I'll take it. I wonder if this means that Frankie and Joey will come back too.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 25, 2013, 02:20:17 PM
Frankie would have been my #1 choice, but Harley could be good too. At this point it would be interesting to see who is definitely not coming back
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on June 08, 2013, 02:21:40 PM
http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/06/07/boy-meets-world-cast-atx-fest/

I thought that EK and Spark would like to read this as well. Sounds like a nice event.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 08, 2013, 03:51:31 PM
So, the first episode's already filmed, huh? I hope Disney picks this up soon. Its great to see that they managed to get so much of the cast to reunite like this. I know that the show won't be focused on any of them except for Cory, Topanga, and maybe Mr. Feeny, but it'd be nice to get to see guest appearances from other old cast members in future episodes. But, its understandable that they won't have much involvement with the show, because this is not Boy Meets World anymore, and if this show is to be successful, they have to make sure that the new generation of characters are the primary focus of the series, and that any returning cast members play strong supporting roles in the background. I just hope the new characters that this series focuses on can manage to be as likable and interesting as most of the main BMW cast.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 09, 2013, 01:42:00 PM
I hope it gets picked up soon. While I'm not expecting it to be a direct sequel, I am interested to see how they will approach it.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on June 09, 2013, 01:48:33 PM
Considering the publicity GMW has been getting, I do doubt that Disney would pass on it.

Even if they do for whatever reason, they'd probably at least air the pilot as a special.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 10, 2013, 04:48:40 PM
The Boy Meets World cast will apparently be on Good Morning America at 7am tomorrow. Presumably to talk about the old show and the upcoming one.

If anyone here is up at that time, be sure to tune in!
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 10, 2013, 05:51:21 PM
I typically get up for work at 7 AM (well, its not officially work, but its pretty much the same thing), so if I got up about half an hour earlier to get ready, I'd probably be able to catch this. That said, I know I like to get in every last minute to sleep that I can, so I'll probably just wait for someone to post the segment up on Youtube.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on June 10, 2013, 05:54:14 PM
I'm DVRing it.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 10, 2013, 08:57:20 PM
Here's video of the panel they filmed. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dD5zd1yDp8M)

There's a few good tidbits in there for BMW fans.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on July 03, 2013, 06:16:51 PM
Word around town is that Riley's cousin will appear in the show this season. So this means that we might either get to see Eric or Morgan as well.

If they go with the latter, I wonder which Morgan they'd get, or if they would hire a new woman to play her, like they're doing with Harvey.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 03, 2013, 06:34:31 PM
The first Morgan is the one appearing in press junkets so I would assume it would be her. But I'm willing to bet it will be Eric. You can't do BMW without Eric and a sequel without his influence would just be missing something.

Oh, we forgot to mention in this thread- Girl Meets World was officially picked up as a series.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 03, 2013, 10:56:31 PM
While I would love to see Eric make a guest appearance on the show, its honestly hard to picture the guy as a dad.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 29, 2013, 06:15:08 PM
Will Friedle talks a bit about GMW (http://family-room.ew.com/2013/07/26/transformers-prime-bumblebee-will-friedle/)

Right now he has no official involvement, but that could change. Personally, I hope they don't go cameo heavy on the first season anyway, it would probably make it feel too tacky.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on July 29, 2013, 06:54:28 PM
I think the best way to go is with the Frasier method, where the only Cheers character who showed up in its first season was the one who NEEDED to- Lilith. After the show had enough time to get its feet off the ground and decide what it wanted to do, then we started getting more characters from the show to appear.

Let's see how Riley and the rest of the new characters are going to do before they start bringing over more BMW characters.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 16, 2013, 03:03:26 PM
If you haven't bothered to get the DVDs yet, there's this puppy on the way:

(http://i39.tinypic.com/29z1kox.jpg)

It apparently has new special features and will be out in November. I already got all seven seasons so I'm good.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 16, 2013, 03:56:06 PM
I, however, do not own any seasons of the show, so this set definitely looks like an enticing offer to me. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 20, 2013, 05:48:41 PM
(http://pmctvline2.files.wordpress.com/2013/08/girl-meets-world-table.jpg?w=625)

Oh Cory, still awkward in a crowd.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on August 20, 2013, 05:50:54 PM
Apparently they're adding in a younger brother in there as well.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 20, 2013, 05:52:44 PM
The kid was on How I Met Your Mother and Weeds, too. It should be an interesting fit to see how this all goes together.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 20, 2013, 05:55:46 PM
Have they released an air date for when the first episode airs, or has the season STILL not been picked up for broadcast, yet?
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 20, 2013, 05:57:21 PM
It's been picked up, but I don't think it's airing until early next year.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on August 20, 2013, 05:59:31 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on August 20, 2013, 05:52:44 PM
The kid was on How I Met Your Mother and Weeds, too. It should be an interesting fit to see how this all goes together.
TYLER NO LIKEY?
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 08, 2013, 10:49:32 PM
I saw you guys talking about the how BMW was a better show after the first 2 seasons, while not getting why other people thought that the first 2 seasons were better in the first place, on another thread. I agree with this point, but it got me thinking bout something else: What is my favorite season of the show?

I thought about it, and for me, it has to be season 3, though season 4 almost one out.

I think season 3 is my favorite because at it's core, it really focuses on 2 things; Cory's relationship with Topanga, and Eric being forced to grow up and get ready for the real world. It's simple, I am a fan of Eric's character (notwithstanding the fact that they turned him into a pure joke character in season 7), so with season 3 being the most Eric-centric of them all, it's no wonder that it has the best gathering of some of my favorite episodes of the show. Of course, there was also Shawn living together with Mr. Turner, which was also a terrific aspect of the show, and another one of my favorite things about season 3, and on that note, I felt that season 3 had the best balance of characters. I felt that Mr. Turner became severely downplayed in season 4, before he was written off, which is a shame because he was one of my favorite characters on the show. With season 3, though, I felt that every character had terrific and memorable moments to contribute to various episodes of the series, and this is really where I felt that all of the kids each started to form a very strong bond with Mr. Feeny, whereas in previous seasons he was just their strict, crazy teacher (and next door neighbor for the Matthews) who occasionally gave them some useful advice about life and such. In season 3, he really became like a father-figure to all of them.

Getting back to Eric, though, I liked him because aside from being downright hilarious, I could relate to his character in a lot of ways. Being funny was just one of his characteristics (something that the writers clearly seemed to forget in later seasons), but despite not being good as schoolwork, he was by no means a dumb guy. He could be extremely productive if he applied himself to things that interested him. The episode where he gets an internship working at the news station was one of my favorite episodes of the series for that very reason. On a serious note, he was still a very interesting character, and his great addition of humor to the show only served to make him even more appealing on top of that. Now, to it's credit, the first half of season 4 was also terrific in Eric's characterization, but I felt that he slowly started to progress into just being the comic relief guy as things progressed onward from there, and the other aspects of his character seemed to kind of fade away little by little, though thankfully seasons 5, 6, and even 7 each still had a couple of episodes that remembered that Eric was at his best when he was both funny AND a relatable character on a serious level, rather than just a goof-ball idiot.

At any rate, I do sincerely like the entire show (even seasons 1 and 2 have their charm for me, despite being the weak links in the show). I thought season 4 was also great, on the whole, and seasons 5 and 6 were almost on par with that, for me. Season 7 faltered a bit, IMO, but even that was still good stuff for the most part, and who the hell could even begin to watch those last 5 minutes of the series finale without falling to tears?

Overall, yeah, this is still one of my favorite TV shows ever.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 08, 2013, 11:28:07 PM
My opinion on each season is as follows in sitcom terms:

Season 1 - 7/10

Almost an entirely different show, but still enjoyable enough. Shawn felt pretty disposable here until the mailbox episode, Topanga was barely there, and the plots all seemed close to similar. Minkus was a good one season character, but I don't think he would have added anything else if he stuck around. It was a good start, but the show got better.

Season 2 - 8/10

There are a few warts in the season (the werewolf episode is... odd), but all the new characters were great additions. The plots were more focused, the jokes were stronger, and about every change was for the better. They toned Morgan down a bit too, which was nice. Unlike most people I don't mind that Minkus was dropped and Topanga was no longer one note, because it led to better things.

Season 3 - 10/10

Pretty much the perfect balance of everything season 2 brought to the table. Eric becomes the breakout character, Cory and Topanga's relationship works well here, and the humor hits the right mixture with the serious moments. I don't even know how to say more, as far as sitcoms go this is one of my favorite seasons. I liked Eli's addition and Frankie's face turn, as well as the Turner/Shawn dynamic.

Season 4 - 10/10

This season went a bit more serious at times, the moving episode, Eric's job and future prospects, and Cory becoming more independent as a teenager. This one is a strong second to season 3, but it's really close. I also like that unlike most kid shows, the parents are still involved in the stories and not treated as idiots. I thought that Frankie's growth as a friend was a real welcome addition to the show to show how far he came from season 2. On the negative side, Mr. Turner appeared WAY less, Eli was cut, and there were less classroom plots, but the strong material makes up for it.

Season 5 - 7/10

I'm not going to lie, this was probably the most disappointing season to me. Mr. Turner vanishes, Frankie is a bully again, half the season is devoted to a break-up that didn't really need to happen (though I do like the resolving episode, most of the episodes centered on it are just kind of annoying) and everything feels more geared toward humor and less on character. But what keeps me from disliking it? It's still funny despite all that. As OOC as the whole Sergio and Nuncio episode was for Shawn and Cory, I still laughed through the whole thing. Nothing bad, but the changes weren't needed. Jack was also a good addition and a good foil to Eric.

Season 6 - 9/10

No, you're not reading the rating wrong. Rachel did help add dynamics to the show, Eric is slightly toned down to goofy (though sometimes he does go nuts) but still has some good episodes to him that reminded me of season 3 and 4. The baby was a good addition and a way to simultaneously help both Topanga and Shawn to grow as characters, and Cory began to see beyond his selfishness in his relationship. I kind of consider this season underrated in the grand scheme of things. Yes, Eric still got dumber, but he was used better here than in season 5. There was more character humor here than in season 5, and it was made more consistent as a result.

Season 7 - 7/10

This was the best time to end it. Characters began getting too cartoony (Eric is certifiable in this season) and some of the stories feel too gimmicky and over the top, but there are a lot of REALLY good episodes sprinkled in there which still makes it good. The finale is also excellent and all the characters end their arcs in the way they should. I particularly like the final Shawn focused episode that is clearly about him tired of being the baggage of the group and wanting to grow up. All in all, it's a worthy end to the series and about the best place to end it. I'm fairly certain that an eighth season wouldn't have been good.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 08, 2013, 11:52:41 PM
I actually did like season 6, on the whole. It's not as strong as seasons 3 and 4, but it was MUCH better than seasons 5 and 7, IMO. Also, Shawn's character arc in season 6 was excellent. I season 3 was Eric's time to shine (aside from the main couple of Cory and Topanga in every season, obviously), then season 6 belonged to Shawn. Him having to deal with his resentment towards his father, and then shortly after that his father's death, was one of the highest points in the series for me. In the end, he learns that while he was never truly able to spend much time with his own flesh and bloody family, he still always had (and would continue to have) a family to turn toward with the Matthews.

So, yeah, I agree with your rating for season 6, overall. It was a great season.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 08, 2013, 11:59:25 PM
I just hear a vocal group constantly going on about how it "went bad" when they got to college and I just don't see it. Season 6 has a lot of great moments to it for about every character and it doesn't get hung up on sticking to one character or story to every other character's expense. While I would agree that the last season isn't the strongest, it still goes out on a string of high quality episodes and when it's good, it's really good.

In any show, the weakest season should be the first one. I think BMW succeeds there.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on September 09, 2013, 08:48:23 AM
I'm 100% with Spark.

The college seasons may not have been as consistently strong as 3 and 4, but there are more than enough good episodes and character moments to make me want to live through them all over again. I also liked the full-time additions of Shawn and Angela, as well as how Jack's character started to fit into the dynamic. The show ended at the right time, but those were some good years.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 09, 2013, 05:26:59 PM
That's why I was excited to hear that they were doing a new show. While season 8 would have clearly been running on fumes, a long break and a focus on a new set of characters could really refresh everything. I would easily prefer GMW to a season 8 as long as it's executed well. But I'm not expecting it to be on par with season 3 or 4 out of the gate. It simply can't be without building on characters first.

But that aside, yeah, I think season 6 is one of the best seasons. No other kid show would have bothered with an episode like "Better Than The Average Cory" back then, never mind now.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on October 05, 2013, 09:32:26 PM
Now it's down to two. (http://bmwsequel.com/2013/10/05/teo-halm-no-longer-playing-elliot-on-girl-meets-world/)

I guess we'll never know what the older brother was like, but if the creative decision that Riley didn't need one was made, it's probably for the best.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 06, 2013, 08:18:23 PM
I'm going to throw a guess in and say that he was too similar to Eric.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 17, 2013, 07:12:27 PM
(http://i39.tinypic.com/6f5pq0.jpg)
(http://i40.tinypic.com/28ibvdj.jpg)

Almost everyone except Jack and Rachel is there.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on October 17, 2013, 08:23:44 PM
I'm gonna get this issue soon, since it also has a Frasier reunion. Looking good!
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 22, 2013, 03:09:04 PM
QuoteIf all goes according to Boy Meets World creator Michael Jacobs? plan, we will find out on the upcoming spin-off Girl Meets World. "If I get my way, you will find out what happened to Mr. Turner, and you will find out what happened to everybody," he told EW during an interview for the annual EW reunions issue. "[Quinn] was one of the first people who got in touch with me after [Girl Meets World] was announced. And what it made me realize is not only does the audience, but the people who were on the show have a fondness for [the show]. So I will not answer your question because I will answer the question on the series."
Great news.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 22, 2013, 06:15:58 PM
By "what happened to Mr. Turner," I presume he means that we'll learn what Mr. Turner generally did with his life after the accident, since we already know that he survived the accident and just moved away for some reason that was never really explained in the original show. I'm glad to hear that his character might get even just the slightest bit of closure on this new show (even if it's just a mere mention of his character), because he was one of my favorite characters during his time on the show. I really feel like he would've been a great member of the regular cast on the later seasons as well, had his actor chosen to stay with the series.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 22, 2013, 06:21:59 PM
Yeah, I didn't link the article, but it was specifically about what happened to the character. Michael Jacobs said he wants to eventually cover what happened to all the old characters that we didn't hear much about but after the show has established itself first.

At any rate, I was disappointed at how Mr. Turner never appeared again after season 4. He was a good contrast to Mr. Feeny.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on October 22, 2013, 06:27:42 PM
Yeah, it sucked how he and Mr. Eli were just written out. Eli was getting some good material as well.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on October 25, 2013, 10:01:39 PM
http://popwatch.ew.com/2013/10/24/boy-meets-world-william-daniels-reads-feenys-best-quotes-video/
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 25, 2013, 10:27:15 PM
$18 and they're socks? I'm a teacher, not a heart surgeon.

Good choices.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 04, 2013, 08:28:21 PM
The BMW cast reflects on Mr. Feeny (http://www.zap2it.com/videogallery/77984918/Entertainment/Boy-Meets-World-video-Stars-talk-about-Mr-Feeny)
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 08, 2013, 09:43:02 PM
(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/5/51/Official_Girl_Meets_World_Logo_2013-11-07_12-39.jpg)

Not bad.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on November 08, 2013, 09:47:41 PM
It looks cute.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on March 08, 2014, 11:51:00 PM
This isn't exclusively about GMW (http://www.eonline.com/news/518449/spoiler-chat-scoop-on-teen-wolf-the-good-wife-suits-two-and-a-half-men-and-more?utm_source=eonline&utm_medium=rssfeeds&utm_campaign=imdb_topstories), but it mentions something I was curious about for a while- how are they going to acknowledge the OTHER Matthews son.

Sounds good.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 13, 2014, 12:07:59 PM
Minkus is coming back for one episode (http://tvline.com/2014/03/12/girl-meets-world-cast-minkus-returns-lee-norris/)

A good choice for a cameo.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on March 18, 2014, 08:33:48 PM
They keep on getting more and more people. (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/girl-meets-world-rider-strong-689434)

But to be fair, this sounds like a big announcement!
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 18, 2014, 08:35:25 PM
I'm anticipating a premiere date anytime soon.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 18, 2014, 09:16:59 PM
This sequel sounds like it may just actually work. The writers seem to be putting a lot of effort into both trying to make it it's own thing while also keeping in line with the spirit of BMW, just applied to a modern High School setting.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 03, 2014, 08:47:56 PM
More photos: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/03/girl-meets-world-cast-pho_n_5082957.html
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 10, 2014, 05:38:43 PM
Teaser (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=egGVgMiGdBY)

It doesn't tell you much, but it sure is nice to see it in action.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 10, 2014, 07:59:42 PM
Man does it feel good to see BMW characters in action again. It feels like it'll be it's own show, while still keeping the heart of what made BMW such a great show.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on April 10, 2014, 09:30:42 PM
Well that seems kinda okay.

It's too quick to make much out of it, but I'm still hopeful.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 22, 2014, 04:54:26 PM
Here's the logo:

(http://www.sitcomsonline.com/boards/attachment.php?attachmentid=191767&stc=1&d=1398182430)

Definitely in the style of the old show. They sure are parceling this out slowly, aren't they?
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 23, 2014, 03:29:58 PM
From Nick and More:

QuoteDisney Channel Airs Four-Night ?Boy Meets World? Event in May

In anticipation of Disney Channel?s new series Girl Meets World, a continuation of the Boy Meets World series with Cory and Topanga raising children of their own, Disney Channel is airing a special four-night Boy Meets World week this May.

From Monday, May 5 through Thursday, May 8, Disney will air one-hour of Boy Meets World episodes from 8-9pm ET/PT. This will be the first time the series has appeared on the network since August 2007. The show currently airs on sister Disney network ABC Family.

The scheduled episodes for this event follow:

Monday, May 5
8:00 p.m. #104 ?Cory?s Alternative Friends?
8:30 p.m. #115 ?Model Family?

Tuesday, May 6
8:00 p.m. #219 ?The Wrong Side of the Tracks?
8:30 p.m. #221 ?The Thrilla in Phila?

Wednesday, May 7
8:00 p.m. #301 ?My Best Friend?s Girl?
8:30 p.m. #306 ?This Little Piggy?

Thursday, May 8
8:00 p.m. #416 ?A Long Walk To Pittsburgh (1)?
8:30 p.m. #417 ?A Long Walk To Pittsburgh (2)?

Thus far, these are the only scheduled episodes to air in May. With the new series coming this summer, it?s of course possible we could see more. However, you can still watch the show weekdays from 3-5pm ET/PT on ABC Family.
There can't be much longer to go before a date is revealed.

They seem to be picking two episodes per season obviously more focused on Cory and Topanga. But I don't see them airing later season episodes considering some content issues they probably wouldn't want to put in prime-time.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 23, 2014, 07:24:06 PM
I continue to be pumped for this show. Though, admittedly, I'm largely just going on faith that the writers know what they are doing. If this wasn't a sequel/spin-off to BMW, I probably wouldn't even take notice to it, but since it's both the literal and spirtiual successor of one of my favorite family sitcoms of all time, it's definitely going to be on my list of things to view as they air. I just hope it's not a major disappointment like that "other" spin-off show that we shall not mention on this thread.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 23, 2014, 07:30:42 PM
I'm not going to expect the moon on the first season, though. While I liked BMW season 1, it didn't compare to what came later, so I don't expect them to hit it out of the park on episode 1.

On the other hand, I expect to actually enjoy it. Disney Channel sitcoms are usually way too loud and abrasive for me to even watch when I'm bored, but BMW was much better about how they handled everything. Hopefully, the staff and cast keep on that track.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on April 23, 2014, 07:45:53 PM
It's looking more like Good Luck Charlie than Shake It Up!

Which, from what I've seen of both, is the right direction.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 24, 2014, 07:50:28 PM
First poster:

(http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/sites/default/files/custom/gmwposter.jpg)

It's not far off now.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 24, 2014, 08:24:27 PM
I'm expecting a late summer/early fall premiere date.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on April 27, 2014, 01:01:22 PM
June for sure. (http://disneychannelmedianet.com/web/bios/display_bios.aspx?bio_type=executives&bio_id=420)
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on May 02, 2014, 01:25:29 PM
Friday, June 27, 9:45 PM.

Bam.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 02, 2014, 01:28:24 PM
Great! Though 9:45 is a wired time slot to premiere a show at.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on May 02, 2014, 01:41:44 PM
It's right after a new movie, so I think it's an okay fit.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 02, 2014, 01:49:36 PM
Odd time for a premiere, but I'll take it.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 02, 2014, 03:09:32 PM
1 minute trailer. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYZhGgc63II&hd=1)

After its premiere it will then take a time-slot of Friday, July 11 at 8:30 p.m. ET/PT. Nostalgic time-slot for those of you who remember TGIF.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 22, 2014, 12:45:20 AM
So, at graduation today, I was talking to my friends and one of them brought up Girl Meets World and said how he can't believe that he's excited for a Disney Channel show. Then another of my friends chimed in and went on about how much he loves BMW. At this point I jumped in with surprise and asked: "Wait! You guys are fans of BMW too?" To which one of my friends puzzlingly looked at me and responded: "Isn't every guy who grew up in the 90's?"

How did I only just find this out now?
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 22, 2014, 12:53:05 AM
Yeah, it's actually quite surprising the amount of people who know about BMW. Even the staff and cast at the time didn't know how popular the show was until after it ended, but most everyone I talked to liked it. It's also never been off the air since it ended, which really means it's been on TV for over twenty years. I think part of the appeal was that it was one of the few shows everyone in the family could watch and enjoy- not very common nowadays.

Disney really made a smart move with the new show, in my opinion.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 22, 2014, 03:33:13 PM
They didn't forget about Joshua. (http://www.eonline.com/news/544044/girl-meets-world-casting-scoop-meet-cory-s-little-brother-plus-watch-the-adorable-opening-credits)

Awesome.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on May 23, 2014, 03:12:58 PM
The weird thing about BMW is that the audience it was originally aimed for, people around Cory's age and slightly younger, never really cared about it, since there were a lot of other shows they could watch instead, like Home Improvement or Roseanne. The show didn't take on the afterlife it has now until it hit syndication (Disney Channel in particular), and younger people ate it up.

You can say the same thing about Fresh Prince as well. So few of its fans today watched it during its original run.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 23, 2014, 03:27:17 PM
Kids loved Fresh Prince, though. At least where I lived. I'm not so sure about adults or teens, but kids were always talking about it when it was on.

As for BMW, I guess I can proudly state that I was a fan of its premiere on TGIF until the end of its run. It was always the highlight on TGIF to me and I guess most people agree because, outside of Full House, (and Family Matters, to an extent) none of the other TGIF shows have had nearly the amount of syndication traction it has had. Not even shows like Perfect Strangers, which everyone just assumed would have a long shelf-life in syndication.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on May 23, 2014, 03:40:55 PM
It's just what I've noticed. A lot of people that I've talked to that were of the age when these shows were on just didn't care about them. But then again, you don't get to make it to 6 or 7 years without at least SOMEONE watching.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 16, 2014, 03:37:27 PM
Premiere episode is up on itunes. Downloading it now.

I'm eager to see how it stacks up to the BMW pilot.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 16, 2014, 05:57:24 PM
I watched it. I feel it's definitely going to fit in oddly in the Disney Channel lineup, because it really isn't much like the other shows (as far as I can tell) but definitely feels like a Boy Meets World for a new generation. Of course, it's a pilot, so it's not quite there yet. The writing is fairly solid as Cory and Topanga (what little there is of her) are pretty much older versions of themselves and Riley is surprisingly similar to both while being her own character. The characters themselves are established and pretty much that's all that happens- since, it's a pilot and all.

There's one character I'm sort of curious on because I feel he can go either way. Farkle, the nerd character, is like this odd combination of Minkus and Eric and has the potential to either be the best character in the show or the worst.

All in all, it's a solid beginner to a solid looking family sitcom. I do hope it can manage to change the way BMW did over its run, but I guess we'll just have to wait and see how it goes. As it is, it's a pretty good starting point.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on June 16, 2014, 08:23:40 PM
That sounds pretty decent, which is what I was expecting. I'll try to keep an eye out for it.

It would be nice if Disney found a slot for the original to air, so they could try to get kids acquainted with it beforehand. I know, old show and all, but if they're willing to make the show in the first place, why not?
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 16, 2014, 08:28:48 PM
For the first season, I would have paired each new GMW episode with a season one episode of BMW in order to keep the same tone and inform the kids a bit more on who Cory and Topanga are.

Because, really, they're not really airing anything like it on the channel.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 16, 2014, 10:58:26 PM
It was about on par with a season 1 episode of BMW. The writers haven't quite found their footing with the characters yet, but they have a solid framework to build from in the coming episodes and seasons.

Also, just admit it, the Mr. Feeny cameo was the highlight of the episode. ;D

"Well done, Mr. Matthews" indeed. ;)
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 16, 2014, 11:13:16 PM
Of course it's a highlight, I just didn't want to spoil it.  ;)

Of all the characters, Cory was the most dead on. The writers haven't forgotten how to write him at all. That gives me hope for later episodes, for sure.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 27, 2014, 05:18:49 PM
QuoteWorld, meet girl!

After months of impatiently waiting, Boy Meets World fans are finally getting the chance to reunite with their favorite '90s couple: Cory and Topanga. 14 years later, Danielle Fishel and Ben Savage are back on the small screen, and now it's time for brand new generation to fall in love with the Matthews family with the series premiere of Girl Meets World.

We've already seen tonight's adorably awesome episode, (subtle brag intended!) and we're ready to spill five things that you absolutely need to know about the new Disney Channel series. Take a look at our video above for the inside scoop on Cory and Topanga's parenting skills, the return of Shawn Hunter's perfect hair and more!

Boy (and Girl) Meets World creator Michael Jacobs exclusively spilled to ETonline that he's thrilled for audiences to finally get a chance to see the series. "I think the new audience coming in is going to love this and love these girls." The showrunner said. "They?re just very real and very interesting."

But for those of you who think Girl Meets World is just a silly kids show?think again. "We?re not writing down to an audience, we?re always writing up," Jacobs explained. "We wrote up with Boy and we?re doing that with again with this."

However, Jacobs cautions that he does not want Boy Meets World fans to compare 157 episodes-worth of a series to this first half-hour introduction

"It?s not about 19-year-olds anymore, it?s about 12 year olds," the executive producer stresses. "The point is, Cory was just 11 years on Boy Meets World when the pilot started. We have to get you to fall in love with these girls, like you fell in love with Cory and Shawn and Topanga and then [the affection] will grow."

Not to worry, BMW fans, Jacobs promises that the new series "evolves very quickly" and if you hang in there for the first five episodes, you'll be "deeply and ritually rewarded."

Plus, did we mention that Rider Strong will be back to reprise his fan-favorite role as Shawn Hunter? Jacobs exclusively told ET that audiences will definitely get a love update from Cory's best friend. "We?ll see him in another episode later this season that actually sort resolves what happened between Shawn and Angela," he said.
Nice to hear.

But I still want to see Eric!
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 30, 2014, 06:52:17 PM
The premiere episode of Girl Meets World topped cable television on friday night in adult 18-49 ratings! (http://tvbythenumbers.zap2it.com/2014/06/30/friday-cable-ratings-girl-meets-world-tops-night-zapped-friday-night-smackdown-jessie-more/277892/)
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 30, 2014, 06:54:05 PM
That's an odd victory for a Disney Channel show, but that seems to be the result they were hoping for.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on July 02, 2014, 10:56:35 AM
I've watched the first two episodes, and I like it so far, although more as a return to the characters I love than as a new show. Riley and her friend are okay (they remind me of Cory and Shawn, in a good way), but Riley's brother and Farkle are annoying me a little so far. It's a kid's show though, so it's expected that there are annoying characters in it.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 02, 2014, 03:02:58 PM
Not too dissimilar from Morgan and Minkus in season 1, then? I do hope as it goes the characters get more fleshed out than that.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 02, 2014, 03:22:22 PM
The way I see it, this season is styled very much after BMW's first season. The first 2 BMW seasons were by no means great, but they were arguably necessary, doing a good job of establishing the characters and subtly developing them over time, so that when season 3 finally came around, you could buy that the characters were acting a bit more mature by that point and slowly taking on more mature subject matter. It also made it more rewarding to flesh them out at that point when you look back at where they had started.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on July 02, 2014, 04:47:56 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 02, 2014, 03:02:58 PM
Not too dissimilar from Morgan and Minkus in season 1, then? I do hope as it goes the characters get more fleshed out than that.
Oh, very much true. I have to admit, I didn't miss Minkus or Morgan's full-time involvement much at all.

I'll definitely take Jacob's word for it to stick around, since it seems like the show definitely has the potential to get more entertaining as it goes along. Right now, it seems like it'll appeal to regular Disney Channel fans who aren't familiar with the original now, while Cory and Topanga are enough to keep older people interested. I'm excited to see it get how it goes along.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on July 04, 2014, 01:48:12 PM
Can you guys see this? (https://d23.com/this-season-on-girl-meets-world/) I'm not sure if you need a D23 account for this one or not.

But yeah, some more info about the show if you want~
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on July 15, 2014, 04:52:44 PM
I just watched the most recent episode, and this is working its way to a being the BMW successor we were hoping for. It's definitely still a Disney Channel show, but the heart is there, and the humor's a little sharper than in most live-action Disney shows, so it's hard to diss.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 15, 2014, 04:56:30 PM
I totally forgot they were airing it already.  :sweat: New eps are on Fridays, right? I'll make sure to set my DVR so I don't miss them from now on. Good to hear the show's improving!
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on July 15, 2014, 05:01:06 PM
Yeah, Fridays. I usually forget until a couple of days, which is why I'm kind of late, heh.

And it's about time I changed the thread title, similar to Avatar.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 15, 2014, 05:03:02 PM
It airs during the second episode of Korra. Brutal timing.

I've only seen the first two episodes, but it's finding its footing sure enough. I still think it feels rather out of place with the other Disney Channel shows, though it probably feels out of place on any network.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on July 15, 2014, 05:07:55 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 15, 2014, 05:03:02 PM
It airs during the second episode of Korra. Brutal timing.
For Korra. :P

Really though, it's strange to see the spin-off for the 90's show do better than the one for the 00's show. But that's what is happening so far.
Title: Re: Boy Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 15, 2014, 05:15:39 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on July 15, 2014, 05:07:55 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 15, 2014, 05:03:02 PM
It airs during the second episode of Korra. Brutal timing.
For Korra. :P
Natch.

Quote from: Avaitor on July 15, 2014, 05:07:55 PMReally though, it's strange to see the spin-off for the 90's show do better than the one for the 00's show. But that's what is happening so far.
So far it looks like GMW might become Disney Channel's flagship show, not to mention the ratings they're getting from people who otherwise don't watch the network.

Meanwhile, I didn't even know Korra had started before checking an internet message board. I flick past Nick all the time and have never seen a commercial for it. Actually, other than Sam & Cat, I don't think I've ever seen them advertise anything new.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on July 15, 2014, 05:18:59 PM
Not to mention how S&C just ended, and Nick seems to be holding SpongeBob on hiatus until it's closer to time for the movie to come out.

Nick is just out, man.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 15, 2014, 06:27:24 PM
I feel like the ratings for Korra are more of Nick's fault than the show's fault. This is actually shaping up to be the strongest Korra season, so far, but hardly anyone's watching it because Nick barely bothered to tell anyone that it was on.

Anyways, as for GMW, I just saw episode 3 and it was definitely a huge step up. The humor was a lot sharper and it had that classic  BMW after-school message without feeling way too overbearing or corny. And it presents a very modern problem with kids these days. And yeah, the show definitely has heart to it. As far as the main cast of kids go, Maya is shaping up to be my favorite. At first it seems like she'll be a trouble-maker just like Shawn was at the beginning of BMW, and she sort of is, but she also has a surprising amount of maturity to her and is very supportive of Riley. If this were any other kids show airing on Disney or Nick, she'd just be obnoxious and loud-mouthed for the sake of it, because modern kids television tells kids that being loud and obnoxious without rhyme or reason is funny. Since this show has actual writers who deserve to be called writers, the characters have much more substance than that, even if they are just kids.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on July 15, 2014, 07:25:12 PM
I like how Cory just gave her a phone at the end of the episode. Obviously he feels a connection to Maya since she reminds him of Shawn, which is sweet, and makes sense. Cory's grown up, but he hasn't forgotten his past.

It'll be really interesting to see what happens when he gets on the show.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 28, 2014, 09:53:13 PM
Episode 4 was decent. It's still a ways off from BMW level quality, but I think it can get there if given the chance. To be honest, though, I can't wait for the reunion episode.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 28, 2014, 10:13:47 PM
I'm enjoying it so far. It reminds me a lot of season 1 of BMW, but is still its own thing.

Now I'm eager to see what some BMW characters are up to.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on August 08, 2014, 10:54:44 AM
Officially renewed. (http://tvline.com/2014/08/06/girl-meets-world-renewed-season-2/)

Good, this means the show has time to find its legs.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 08, 2014, 11:01:07 AM
I'm really glad to see that the show is doing well with its own intended age demographic. While I enjoy it for what it is, admittedly the fact that it's a BMW sequel is the only thing that has really kept me watching it, but it's nice to know that kids themselves actually enjoy it. In that regard, I am confident that with future seasons it will be able to mature along with its target audience just as BMW did.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on August 13, 2014, 01:31:35 PM
This week's ep was kind of weird, but not bad. While I'm sick of Big Bang Theory-esq nerd tropes still being use today and the ever-so generic bad guy lawyers, I can't really fault an episode with Cloris Leachman and ties to the old show like this episode had.

Also, the show gets points for calling out cultural appropriation.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: gunswordfist on August 14, 2014, 09:08:14 PM
from the point where cory agrees to let her stay over at night, i watched the episode of bmw with the girl that was getting abused by her dad. from there to the end, only one small joke was shared. i can't remember the last time i've seen a teen sitcom about something that serious and completely change its usual tone.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 30, 2014, 01:16:18 PM
I forgot to comment on it, but I really liked the episode with Maya's mother. To me, it's the best one so far, and really felt similar to a classic BMW episode. I like how she realistically didn't show up at the end, but still conveyed that she clearly cares about her daughter.

Also, there's this fantastic gem:

-"Wait, so your name is Farkle Minkus?"

-"Don't wear it out!"

-"Dude, I don't think you can."

The first joke all season that I actually physically laughed at.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 10, 2014, 05:56:38 PM
Tonight Harley appears.

I have to say, I've been enjoying this show. It's just pleasant to watch. I haven't laughed out loud a lot, but I've quite enjoyed every episode I've seen. I do hope it continues to get better.

And that Eric appears. (C'mon, Will!)
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on October 10, 2014, 09:40:26 PM
I forgot to catch up after an earlier hiatus, but I do like what I've seen. If it's getting better, then I really should catch up.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 10, 2014, 10:32:27 PM
I also really need to catch up. The last episode that I saw was Crazy Hat, so I'm about 2 episodes behind, I think. Oh, and episode 14 is confirmed to be the long awaited reunion episode, so I definitely can't wait for that. We're almost there, guys! ;D
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 01, 2014, 10:51:18 PM
This Friday Alan and Amy appear. Oh yeah, and Shawnzie, too.  :)
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on December 02, 2014, 12:15:55 AM
I've been behind for a while. I so need to catch up.

Actually, I think my most recent ep was when Minkus was revealed to be Farkle's dad. I also know that the Harley ep aired not too long ago, as well.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on December 05, 2014, 09:26:36 AM
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/1ff6e3739fa1f8c3386e9dae2a7296a9/tumblr_ng0tpyVxvo1t84jgeo1_1280.png)
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/027358714872be330efac6b6eccfb38d/tumblr_ng0tpyVxvo1t84jgeo2_1280.png)

So it seems like what we wanted the show to become is happening, after all! What do you think the chances are of the other cast member being Angela? I'd like to find out what happened to her and Shawn.

I'm slowly catching up with the show now, and it's still pretty alright. I thought the 1960's episode had some good stuff, although I have to admit that I found it to be a bit contrived that all of the main characters' relatives had ties to each other back then. And I was also a little disappointed that they didn't use the chance to bring Alan and Amy in, but I guess the show's saving them for tonight, huh?
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 05, 2014, 10:34:52 AM
I can't wait for tonight's episode. This will be a real treat.

As for those announcements, I'm really looking forward to the 2nd season. The show by itself isn't anything special, so far, but to be fair, it's very much in tone with how season 1 of BMW was, as well. I'm confident that it'll be able to mature and tell better stories for these characters as they grow over time, just as BMW did. Remember, it wasn't until season 3 when that show finally found its footing.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 05, 2014, 03:22:30 PM
Will Friedle is actually going to appear? Awesome!  ;D

As for original cast member, I'm going to go with either Angela or Morgan. None of the other original members would really change as much.

I actually think season 1 has been a good mirror image of BMW season 1, though I think it's been far more consistent than that season. Nothing quite on the level of the episode where Eric gets his driver's license, but nothing disappointing so far, either. I do hope this show somehow goes beyond the 3 season rule, even if it has to "cheat" like Zach & Cody did.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 05, 2014, 03:26:12 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10422590_575157799250371_1160030153008001744_n.jpg?oh=7e1f5a1b56c87d059c3bdc41311c798a&oe=551D8EE0&__gda__=1426373002_817f9a9c5e151e55597cbeb6ee0746ce)
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on December 05, 2014, 03:40:02 PM
Mr. Matthews?
Mr. Squirrels.
Eric?
Plays With.

Ho boy.

But yeah, Angela and Morgan seem like the biggest bets. Or Mr. Turner, which especially seems doable since Jacobs has mentioned that he wants to determine what happened to him. I don't think that many people care about Jack or Rachel, and while I'd like to see Frankie and Joey, they're not that important in comparison. And I severely doubt that Linda Cardellini will show up again.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 05, 2014, 04:15:59 PM
Frankie and Joey would be cute as, like, cameos. Let's say Harley's having a poker game and invites Cory to it and Frankie and Joey are there with him. A whole episode centered on them wouldn't be needed necessarily. Jack and Rachel are liked, but there's a reason they weren't in the final scene in the series finale. They're just not as important as the rest of the cast. I can see both of them showing up at some point, but they probably won't be big deals. Mr. Turner I have no doubt is going to appear at some point. He'll probably have an episode with Shawn at the same time. I kind of hope Lauren doesn't appear again, because that story has long since been put to pasture.

All of this is totally eclipsed by the fact that Will Friedle is returning, though. I do hope he keeps his wackiness less tied to stupidity and more to ignorance, but I'll take monstrously dumb Eric over no Eric.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 05, 2014, 07:57:01 PM
This episode was really good, but what it really made me wish was that Rider Strong was a regular.  :sweat:

I didn't think he would add that much to the show, but he fits in like a glove. Either way, I'm glad to hear he will appear more often in season 2 and have a bigger role.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 06, 2014, 02:03:30 PM
Man, Rider Strong's still got it. He can pull off Shawn perfectly after all of these years, and Shawn's chemistry with Cory is still priceless.

I really like how he interacted with Riley and Maya in this episode, and it was great to see a fully grown Josh along with his and Cory's parents. The only disappointing thing is at Alan and Amy didn't really have much to do in this episode. Hopefully we'll get a later episode in a future season which covers their role as grandparents.

And yes, we really need Eric and Feeny to appear on this show. In particular, Eric definitely deserves his own episode. It doesn't matter who he interacts with. I'm sure that he'll manage to steal any scene that he's featured in.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on December 07, 2014, 03:15:26 AM
Didn't Jacobs say before that he wanted to show some kind of rivalry between Cory and Alan in regards to their parenting? I am a little surprised that we didn't get to see him and Amy on the show before now, especially since it was obvious that they were going to be overshadowed by Shawn. Because really, Alan and Amy were always well-written parents, but they're not the characters we wanted to see on the show above all.

But they're still great! And wow, so is Rider Strong! Similar to Ben Savage and Danielle Fishel, he hasn't forgotten his beats for a minute, and it was just a delight to see him back on screen again. This is what I was hoping for the show, and it does seem like it's happening- a best of both worlds scenario to please kids for today, but keep fans of the original happy. All Disney needs to do is at least consider airing some of the original here or there. Even put it up on their site, maybe?

And yeah, I'm caught up. You can still tell that this is a Disney show, but the writing is definitely a little better than their usual live-action stuff. I usually get some solid laughs here or there, even if there's an odd groan as well. Also, I was totally surprised to see Herbie Hancock in the previous episode. I'm not sure why he was there, but hey. Although that wasn't as weird as the time Larry David was on Hannah Montana.

Oh, and "Girl Meets 1961" is nominated for a WGA award for children's programming. Like I said before, I find the ending a little cheesy, but the writing otherwise is pretty strong in it, so that's not a bad choice at all!

Edit: Also, I didn't notice this until I randomly went on the wiki page, but in the award episode, Cory's award to Maya was the "Griff Hawkins Totally Cool" award. And that's as close as Adam Scott is getting to the series.  :P
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 08, 2014, 03:01:25 PM
To be fair, nobody was really pulling for Griff to return.  ;)

Quote from: Avaitor on December 07, 2014, 03:15:26 AM
Didn't Jacobs say before that he wanted to show some kind of rivalry between Cory and Alan in regards to their parenting? I am a little surprised that we didn't get to see him and Amy on the show before now, especially since it was obvious that they were going to be overshadowed by Shawn. Because really, Alan and Amy were always well-written parents, but they're not the characters we wanted to see on the show above all.
I think they did it in the best possible way. It would have been nice for even Shawn to be there in episode one, but their idea of introducing Riley's world and her friends and life first was the best idea to hook kids into the show. And that seems to be working as the show is pulling in ratings in the usual demos (the show is by far the best written show they have, which helps, too) while still having enough (like Minkus and Harley) to keep older audiences involved.

Now that we've spent a season getting to know the new characters, I think we'll be seeing more of what you just mentioned.

QuoteOh, and "Girl Meets 1961" is nominated for a WGA award for children's programming. Like I said before, I find the ending a little cheesy, but the writing otherwise is pretty strong in it, so that's not a bad choice at all!
Not quite as good as BMW's back in the past episodes, but it was enjoyable. I'm glad to see this show appears to be popular with kids as well as older audiences.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on December 08, 2014, 03:51:55 PM
Allow me to rank Cory's loved ones in his heart

1- Shawn
2- Riley and Auggie
3- Topanga
4- Nana Boo Boo (RIP?)
5- Alan and Amy
6- Eric
7- Maya
8- Mr. Feeny
9- Josh
10- Morgan, I guess
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 08, 2014, 04:08:02 PM
Uncle Poppy is right up there.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 11, 2014, 03:11:29 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B4hoC0yCcAAjYM7.jpg)

He's back! KyleEric Matthews himself!
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 11, 2014, 03:17:54 PM
"Playing Eric Matthews" (https://vine.co/v/O6Bbga5ZhMP)
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 23, 2015, 05:28:04 PM
I'm really enjoying GMW (every episode seems to better than the last) and the recent episode with Shawn's return made me want to go back over BMW and what I liked best and least about each season. So I came up with this list.

Best and worst episodes of each season:


Season 1

Best: The Fugitive

While BMW was a fairly good family sitcom before this, I think it was this episode that showed what it was capable of. It takes a simple idea of a prankster's prank going awry and in the process established Shawn as an essential character to the show. Eric, Topanga, and Morgan's friends (what little we saw of the latter's, anyway) were more or less revolving doors throughout the series, but Shawn became a mainstay because of this episode. At the same time as being true to life for those of us who have friends like that (or maybe we were those friends) it also added shades to all the other characters in the show and I think was the episode that showed BMW did serious better than most other sitcoms of its day. On top of it, it lead to a great parody in "Hollywood Eric" at the end when Shawn comes barreling into the kitchen saying "Cory, I blew up another mailbox." which signifies how important the episode was in the show's development.

Worst: Boys II Mensa

I could have flipped for this or "The B-Team of Life" mostly because it runs with one idea for the full length of the episode to the detriment of every other character. Neither of these are bad episodes, but they don't do much of anything for me. I think I also picked this one because I barely ever remember anything about it until I watch it again.


Season 2

Best: Sister Theresa

Season 2 was a complete step up from the original, even its early episodes showing more of a spark than season 1, but the episode I find myself most enamored with is this one. This is also the only episode in the series that shows another side of Harley, which was what lead into his transformation in GMW to Cory's friend to be believable. In this episode we learn why Harley is so angry at everyone and everything, and it manages to be really funny at the same time.

Worst: Who's Afraid of Cory Wolf?

I have never correctly understood this episode. Not to say I don't know what they were going for, just that I don't understand why they didn't stop before they made it. It doesn't really work. The wolf thing is jarring for a show like BMW and the plot and comedy feel like they came from another show. It actually reminds me of Pigmalion from KOTH, except even though that episode is completely out of sync with the show it's in, it at least is well done. I don't really feel this episode is.


Season 3

Best: New Friends and Old

No surprise here. This is the episode where Frankie turns over a new leaf. It's also really funny. To be honest, it was hard to choose a best episode for season 3 because it's so good, so I just went with my personal favorite. Frankie was a great character who only improved when he became friends with Cory and Shawn and had some of my favorite lines. But really, almost any episode could have gone here.

Worst: I Never Sang For My Legal Guardian

All I can say is that some episode had to be ranked last. This isn't a bad episode at all, the main plot makes a lot of sense, but it has never been a favorite. For one, the sub-plot with Eric is boring and an Eric plot should never be boring. But it is. On the other hand, Chet coming back never actually went anywhere in either the show or Shawn's character development making this episode not do much except eventually writing Mr. Turner out of the show. So, yeah, it's my least favorite.


Season 4

Best: You Can Go Home Again

This is a pretty perfect season, yet I still went for the season premiere that had almost no Shawn or Topanga in it. Why? Because it's still probably my favorite or second favorite episode. Eric grew a lot over the last three seasons and this episode sets his tone for the rest of the season, that of the scared and unfulfilled townie, but it's here where it feels the strongest. Alan comes to the rescue and helps Eric make the hardest decision of his life so far (it doesn't get easier for him after this episode, either) lead in to one of the best conclusions of an episode in the series. It also sets the tone of the season which is thematically about change. On top of it, every scene with Cory is hysterical. Pretty much the perfect BMW episode to me.

Worst: An Affair to Forget

In a season of change, this loses out because it's the only episode where nothing really changes. It's still funny, but, man, I can't stand Shawn's girlfriend. People like her have never failed to get under my skin. All in all, not bad, but certainly last.


Season 5

Best: Raging Cory

This was the 12 episode in the season and only the fourth serious one (and two were consisted of a single two-parter) which really tells you of season 5's biggest problem. That said, the focus on father and sons lead to both a lot of good jokes and bonding which managed to add depth to all three characters, especially Eric who had been little more than a joke magnet every episode so far in season 5. All in all, next to "The Eskimo" and the Angela two-parter, it's the clear best episode here.

Worst: Heartbreak Cory

I hated just about everything in this episode. Yes, it lead to Cory and Topanga breaking up, but that's not why. Cory lies, Shawn lies, and they do it for no reason other than they don't trust Topanga "not to freak out". Umm, doesn't she have a reason to? You spent all night talking to some girl when you're already in a relationship and you don't see anything problematic with it? I could understand Cory doing the wrong thing here (because he did EVERYTHING wrong in this episode) but Shawn's advice was so catastrophically incorrect I had to wonder if he had ever actually met a female before in his life. While I can stomach the other break-up episodes in the season (I actually think "Starry Night" is legitimately great), I never liked that it both took up so much of the season and started with such an infuriating episode that I still have problems watching. Yeah, it's the clear loser here.


Season 6

Best: Better Than the Average Cory

I think this episode gets better with age. Mainly because we live in a society whose media is currently heavily focused on radical individualism over community and viewing the "commoners" as inferior. Everyone has to be rich, popular, and socially acceptable to matter. But this episode says the opposite. It is the common man that has built everything we take for granted, and the common man who were are most likely going to end up being. But now that's a bad thing. This episode aired in 1998 and it is a bigger problem now than ever before. I'm honestly surprised this episode still airs, and not only that, but GMW regularly made it a point when the show was being developed that it wouldn't be about fame or success but about a normal girl. All that said, that celery picture is the show's artistic peak.

Worst: And in Case I Don't See Ya...

This episode pretty much includes everything I didn't like about the end of BMW (particularly in season 5 and 7) and it also manages to center on Eric at his nadir. For one, I like the Truman Show, but this parody makes no real sense in the context of the show and effectively dates the episode in the process. For another, Eric is unbelievably stupid here to the point that he's annoying. The other problem is that the Cory and Shawn plot would have made more sense if they didn't already know Mr. Feeny would have said no from years of experience. Just not a fan of this one.


Season 7

Best: Family Trees

This might be the most underrated episode in the whole show. I never hear anyone talk about this episode which effectively closes Shawn's character arc for the series. This episode is neither as wacky as some of the episodes in this season nor as well-remembered as the wedding and honeymoon episodes or Angela's arc and the finale, but nonetheless is as strong as them or better. Shawn finally puts his past behind him and realizes it's time for him to grow up and put some good into the Hunter name. The scenes both at the graveyard and at the surprise party are probably Shawn's best scenes in the series and certainly leads him to be a fully fleshed out character. The surprise party subplot makes up for the mood by being really funny, too. I do wish Eric had been more empathetic to Shawn (especially considering his own arc with Tommy), but in season 7 we were luck enough to not have an episode with Eric as a complete dimwit, so I'll take what I can get.

Worst: How Cory and Topanga Got Their Groove Back

That Eric and Jack plot. What in the world. Otherwise the main plot doesn't really do anything new, but it's the Eric and Jack plot that always leaves me scratching my head. What were the writers thinking on that one?


Anyone have some picks of their own?
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on January 23, 2015, 05:54:28 PM
Cool list!

I actually recently watched "An Affair to Forget" recently, and while I don't think it's the best by any stretch, there's enough good bits to make it look.

"Where should we meet?"
"Paris!"
"That's the first place she'd look!"

But in hindsight, maybe there isn't enough good moments to justify such a tired plot.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 23, 2015, 06:59:58 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on January 23, 2015, 05:54:28 PM
Cool list!

I actually recently watched "An Affair to Forget" recently, and while I don't think it's the best by any stretch, there's enough good bits to make it look.

"Where should we meet?"
"Paris!"
"That's the first place she'd look!"

But in hindsight, maybe there isn't enough good moments to justify such a tired plot.
No, I agree that it's a fine episode. Season 4 is just really strong as a whole, there isn't really a bad episode. But I had to choose one episode and that was the best choice for me to make.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on February 03, 2015, 09:01:57 PM
Big GMW announcements! (https://tv.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-girl-meets-world-shawn-224000876.html)

Wow! I'm really excited for the second season now.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 03, 2015, 09:05:43 PM
Nice. I've really been digging this show. It seems to get better with every episode.

Also, Shawn's second appearance made it rather clear to me that he should appear in the show more.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 03, 2015, 09:20:08 PM
I really need to catch back up to the show. I haven't watched it since the reunion episode.

Anyways, that's great news, but I suppose that Shawn's dad appearing will either have to be in a dream sequence or like that season 7 episode from Desensitized's pick where it was all in his head.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 04, 2015, 09:17:49 PM
(http://www.etonline.com/media/photo/2015/02/24129647/640_Girl_Meets_World_Trina_McGee.jpg)

;D
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on February 10, 2015, 12:36:39 PM
So, uh, what was Jane Lynch doing in person on the show? That's a weird choice for a guest appearance.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 10, 2015, 01:13:19 PM
I honestly have no idea. That was probably the most pointless guest star so far.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 07, 2015, 01:24:42 PM
Mr. Turner is back (https://twitter.com/TheAnthonyQuinn/status/585493471248703488)

Season 2 is looking really good so far.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: gunswordfist on April 19, 2015, 12:40:14 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 04, 2015, 09:17:49 PM
(http://www.etonline.com/media/photo/2015/02/24129647/640_Girl_Meets_World_Trina_McGee.jpg)

;D
She's still so thin. :swoon:
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 23, 2015, 07:36:37 PM
The first week of May will premiere the new season of GMW with a new episode every day of the week. These episodes will have Eric, Mr. Feeny, Shawn, and a return to Philadelphia. So if you're interested you might consider watching.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 23, 2015, 07:55:41 PM
Unfortunately I'll have to miss it for now. :'(
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 27, 2015, 07:42:49 PM
Mr. Feeny and Eric show up in the new promo. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMcYVnAxnSQ)

It's good seeing them again.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on May 01, 2015, 03:35:43 PM
It's not surprising that the audience applauded more for Debby Ryan than anyone else thus far, since kids actually know who she is.

This is a good episode, btw.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 01, 2015, 06:26:36 PM
Debby Ryan was actually pretty good in the episode, too. But personally I find most performances in this show are pretty good-- especially for a kidcom.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on May 01, 2015, 07:25:57 PM
The only performance I could really do without is AVA MORGENSTERNNNNNN
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 01, 2015, 07:32:28 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on May 01, 2015, 07:25:57 PM
The only performance I could really do without is AVA MORGENSTERNNNNNN
lol, not a fan of the kids I take it. Gotta admit, she did make me laugh in the board game episode when she kept going after Topanga.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on May 01, 2015, 09:37:02 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 01, 2015, 07:32:28 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on May 01, 2015, 07:25:57 PM
The only performance I could really do without is AVA MORGENSTERNNNNNN
lol, not a fan of the kids I take it. Gotta admit, she did make me laugh in the board game episode when she kept going after Topanga.
I think she's at her best when she's messing with Topanga, but otherwise she's a little too hammy for me. I do like Auggie, though!
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on May 09, 2015, 12:43:49 AM
This is basically a recap of what we know will happen this season (http://www.etonline.com/tv/164122_exclusive_boy_meets_world_questions_will_finally_be_answered_in_girl_meets_world_season_2/), but it's a good way to whet your appetite for it.

I really have been enjoying the show, and it looks like we're totally getting the continuation we've been hoping for. Can't wait for Monday!
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 09, 2015, 01:11:51 AM
I do hope Ethan Suplee chooses to guest star. He's about the only remaining guest star left I'd really be hyped to see that hasn't been hinted at.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 11, 2015, 04:27:31 PM
Season 2 has a new episode every day this week at 8:30 pm if anyone is interested in checking it out. I believe Mr. Feeny, Shawn, and Eric, are all due to appear.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on May 12, 2015, 04:10:09 PM
What the fuck, Riley.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on May 13, 2015, 09:07:57 PM
What the fuck, Doy.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 13, 2015, 09:14:57 PM
Unfortunately I missed these two episodes to catch the DC shows, but I will watch the other two. Disney reruns this show quite a bit, after all.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on May 15, 2015, 07:48:22 PM
I haven't seen "Girl Meets Mr. Squirrels" yet, but wow was last night's good! The time capsule!

Also, FEENY! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RW4CE6OrfCg)
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 15, 2015, 08:02:21 PM
Will Friedle still has it: "I have been summoned."

That was the best episode so far which says a lot since this season so far has been a marked improvement from the last one.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 19, 2015, 08:01:57 PM
The most recent episode really helped solidify Shawn moving on from his past. I really liked it.

Season 2 has been quite great so far.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on June 19, 2015, 08:30:05 PM
I haven't seen anything since the week of premieres. I didn't want to be behind, but the fact that the show took a couple of weeks off after them didn't help things.

I'll try to catch up soon.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 19, 2015, 08:55:48 PM
I still haven't even caught up to season one, yet. I wish that Disney would just stream this show on their site without requiring a subscription to their channel. I mean, I know that Nick does that, at least.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 10, 2015, 11:02:03 PM
The new episode had a very surprising cameo from a character from the old series. I was surprised by how well they were wrapped into the plot.

Season 2, still going strong.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on July 21, 2015, 04:01:59 PM
The most recent episode was pretty good. It's really just nice to see Mr. Turner again, though.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 21, 2015, 06:05:24 PM
Also good to hear just where he had been since season 4. But I also enjoyed how they fleshed out the intention to use a comic book to try and learn tougher literature that he tried back in BMW season 2.

All in all, season 2 has been a step up from 1.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on July 21, 2015, 07:58:22 PM
If you know me, TDKR wouldn't be my first choice for a comic to teach. But it is less graphic than Watchmen and Y: The Last Man, and fits the story better than Year One or Dark Phoenix could, so it was a good choice.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on July 27, 2015, 05:58:41 PM
Season 1 is hitting Netflix next month. (http://www.mtv.com/news/2224476/netflix-august-2015/)

Cool, there are a couple of episodes that I'd like to see again soon.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 27, 2015, 06:05:03 PM
I'm way behind on this series, so it's a good opportunity for me to catch up.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 27, 2015, 06:10:32 PM
Hope it doesn't take too long for us to get it. Our Disney stuff is a mixed bag of what we'll get.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on August 17, 2015, 08:47:11 PM
The last couple of episodes were pretty good, but the most recent one might just be a new favorite. Jack was a nice surprise, and now I kind of want to see Rachel after all.

I don't know these guys who are performing at all, though. The song's actually kind of okay, but the kids seem more excited than you'd expect. At least it makes slightly more sense than Jane Lynch's cameo last season, though.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 17, 2015, 08:53:29 PM
I was very surprised with Jack's appearance since it showed that not everything was sunshine and roses since BMW ended. In fact, he was pretty close to being the guy he didn't want to be in the episode where he tried to change Eric and in the flash forward episode, but he was fully aware of it happening. I do hope he returns because it looks like he could have a solid mini-arc of his own just as Eric is currently having one.

The other surprise has been the way Riley and Lucas have not quite been the Cory and Topanga everyone thought they were set up to be. Their relationship has become something very different. Then there was how Shawn positively influenced Maya, and how now Farkle is trying to find a new identity for himself aside from being the weird guy. It's quite surprising.

But all in all, I'm just surprised at how much better season 2 is from season 1, and I really liked season 1. They didn't stick with the status quo very long.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 06, 2015, 08:07:22 PM
I forgot to post on this, but the recent 3-parter sure was great and probably the best episodes of the show so far. Season 2 as a whole has just been a huge step up from the first. If you have been keeping up with the BMW stuff then you might be surprised that these episodes focus entirely on the GMW cast and really lets them carve out their own niche.

But I do wonder exactly how long season 2 will be. The production code on wikipedia says there are at least 27 episodes this season. I wonder why it has such a large order? Not that I'm complaining, season 2 has been great.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on November 07, 2015, 12:03:43 AM
I was actually expecting those to be the finale. It seemed like a good way to cap things off for their middle school adventures, before they move onto high school.

This really has been a good season. I love seeing the BMW characters again, but Riley and her friends have been developing very well themselves. This has got to be the best live-action Disney Channel original ever.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 25, 2015, 03:05:49 PM
Season 3 confirmed. (http://tvline.com/2015/11/25/girl-meets-world-season-3-renewed-disney-channel/)

I hope it somehow tops season 2. There are still a few BMW mini-arcs to wrap up and characters to show up, too.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 26, 2016, 06:33:09 PM
Season 3 will be 30 episodes like season 2. (http://www.filmtelevisionauditions.com/2016/02/casting-calls-underway-for-disney-channel-series-girl-meets-world-season-3/?_ga=1.258077514.1117086390.1455730859) I'm amazed that this show gets orders this big.

The season finale for season 2 airs on March 11th.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on February 26, 2016, 10:57:11 PM
I'm way behind, but seeing the internet lose its shit over Fuller House makes me want to catch up on the good TGIF revival.

Good news on the renewal! Kids really do seem to enjoy it, is the crazy thing. And it does deserve to hold a candle to the original.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 03, 2016, 05:43:41 PM
Spoiler
(http://i0.wp.com/bitcast-a-sm.bitgravity.com/slashfilm/wp/wp-content/images/girlmeetsworld-boymeetsworld-caststogether.jpg)
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Yep, there will be a full blown reunion in season 3.

As for the show, it's managed to only improve in quality from season 1. It's also Disney Channel's best performing show. I hope they can manage to keep it up.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Avaitor on August 04, 2016, 02:58:45 PM
So does this mean that we finally get to see Morgan?

I actually haven't seen the show since the Texas three-parter, and I really regret that. I need to catch up soon.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 04, 2016, 03:26:02 PM
Both actresses will be playing her. They'll be trading off.

They've gotten a surprising amount of people back for the show.
Title: Re: Boy/Girl Meets World
Post by: Daikun on January 05, 2017, 01:27:23 PM
The series finale airs January 20. (http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/girl-meets-world-spinoff-of-boy-meets-world-is-officially-ending/ar-BBxUyAA)