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Title: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: Pharass on November 27, 2016, 04:32:13 AM
Hello and welcome to the Greatest Comic Tournament. The rules are the same as they've been in previous tournaments, so let's just get this show on the road. Here we go:

Round 1, Match 1:

Scalped by Jason Aaron & R.M. Guera

(https://s22.postimg.org/mqky7s76p/scan0012.jpg)

Vs.

Finder by Carla Speed McNeil

(https://s15.postimg.org/pb64k8b4b/finder_19_2.jpg)

Vs.

Jojo's Bizarre Adventure by Hirohiko Araki

(https://s21.postimg.org/weei79hw7/jojos_bizarre_adventure_part_2_battle_tendency_1.jpg)

Vs.

The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck by Don Rosa

(https://s14.postimg.org/6933osjy9/wu0_VC.jpg)

Vs.

Death: The High Cost of Living by Neil Gaiman & Chris Bachalo

(https://s22.postimg.org/f2nizgh5t/peachy_keen4.jpg)

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My Votes:

Finder
Scalped
Death: The High Cost of Living
The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure

Well, I'd say this tournament is off to a good start.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 27, 2016, 11:34:59 AM
How long will each match be up? I need to read some of these.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: gunswordfist on November 27, 2016, 01:57:37 PM
5 per round? Imma need some time. lol Already ordered Jojo but still need to get the other 3.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: Pharass on November 28, 2016, 08:34:26 AM
Quote from: LumRanmaYasha on November 27, 2016, 11:34:59 AM
How long will each match be up? I need to read some of these.

I was thinking two weeks. You guys let me know if that's not sufficient, I'm always open for suggestions.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 02, 2016, 09:29:56 PM
Quote from: Pharass on November 28, 2016, 08:34:26 AM

I was thinking two weeks. You guys let me know if that's not sufficient, I'm always open for suggestions.


Sounds good to me!

I'm going to post now, but if time permits I may change my rankings if I manage to read more than what I currently have of these:

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure -
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JoJo's is everything I've ever wanted in a battle series. Fights aren't determined by who is stronger, but by who an use their powers more cleverly, and each encounter feels more like a mystery than a brawl. It's also great to follow the characters and Joestar lineage through the generations, and with each part, the series constantly evolves in it's storytelling, reaching one hell of a climax in SO that still boggles my mind to reflect upon. My favorite Shonen Jump series and one of my all time favorite manga and comics in general.
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Death: The High Cost of Living -
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Sandman's Death is possibly my favorite interpretation/personification of the concept and a infectiously endearing and thoroughly fascinating character in her own right with her friendly and bubbly personality contrasting an underlying existential longing. Contrasting her zeal for life and the ability to be among the living for a day with a boy disillusioned with life and suicidal and how she manages to change his perception and ideas on what it means to live makes for a great and honestly uplifting short story.
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Finder -
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I read Voice, which I know is a volume pretty late into the series, but it was the only one I could find at my comic shop. That said, I didn't really have a problem following the story, and I found it a really interesting commentary on gender and race relations, the connections between family and social status, the values of classifying and associating ourselves with groups and how we identify as individuals, race relations and prejudices, and just a generally well-constructed social commentary. I definitely hope to read more of the series when I get the chance, because the subject matter is really up my alley and in line with stories I think of and write myself.
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Scalped -
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Good crime thriller and interesting native american social and racial commentary. Profanity reads as excessive at times, but I can easily picture this series as a great live-action drama on AMC or HBO and am kind of surprised it hasn't been tapped for adaption already.
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The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck -
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I unfortunately couldn't find a copy of this. I've read other Don Rosa Scrooge stories and I do really enjoy them, but until I can actually read this particular story I can't rate this higher than series I've both read and enjoyed.
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Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: Avaitor on December 03, 2016, 10:52:49 PM
I want to look for some of Finder and Scalped before I vote. I'll try to come back before the deadline.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: gunswordfist on December 07, 2016, 11:32:57 PM
I have Death. I can probably get Jojo this week too.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: Avaitor on December 08, 2016, 03:16:50 PM
Scrooge
Death
Jojo
Finder
Scalped
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: gunswordfist on December 12, 2016, 09:17:03 AM
Give me until the end of the day.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: Pharass on December 12, 2016, 01:29:51 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on December 12, 2016, 09:17:03 AM
Give me until the end of the day.

Very well.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: gunswordfist on December 12, 2016, 05:31:46 PM
Whoa, thank you! Voting tonight, once I finish.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: Dreamer2 on December 12, 2016, 05:41:19 PM
The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck
Death: The High Cost of Living
Finder
Scalped
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: gunswordfist on December 12, 2016, 11:54:17 PM
Jojo
Scalped
Death
Finder
Duck
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: Pharass on December 13, 2016, 10:31:30 AM
Having counted all the votes twice, I am pleased to announce the results. Voila:

Scalped: 14 pts
Finder: 15 pts
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure: 15 pts
The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck: 14 pts
Death: The High Cost of Living: 18 pts

As you can see, Finder and Jojo are both tied. Now, I know that usually two of the contestants advance to the next round, but I was thinking about only having comic from each match move on. However, I'd like to hear your opinion on the matter. So, are you guys fine with that?

If not, then we'll proceed as we usually do.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: gunswordfist on December 13, 2016, 01:57:45 PM
Jojo
Edit: Whoops, sorry. I didn't read due to trying to secure the Jojo victory asap. I prefer the two comic books move on method, either way. And I am still picking Jojo fir the tiebreaker.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: Pharass on December 14, 2016, 06:30:11 AM
Quote from: gunswordfist on December 13, 2016, 01:57:45 PM
Jojo
Edit: Whoops, sorry. I didn't read due to trying to secure the Jojo victory asap. I prefer the two comic books move on method, either way. And I am still picking Jojo fir the tiebreaker.

No worries, I don't mind sticking with our usual format. Besides, I'd like to move on to the next match anyway.

Jojo's Bizarre Adventure and Death: The High Cost of Living move on to Round 2.


Round 1, Match 2:

Batman Dark Victory by Jeff Loeb & Tim Sale

(https://s28.postimg.org/5eudpplzh/image.jpg)

Vs.

100 Bullets by Brian Azzarello and Eduardo Risso

(https://s28.postimg.org/yvzmm90jx/100_Bullets_The_Hard_Way_2.jpg)

Vs.

Excel Saga by Koshi Rikdo

(https://s27.postimg.org/6e0agfp9f/image.jpg)

Vs.

Corto Maltese by Hugo Pratt

(https://s27.postimg.org/847x75xk3/CM00.jpg)

Vs.

Lone Wolf and Cub by Kazuo Koike & Goseki Kojima

(https://s30.postimg.org/s3m7h7ydt/hqdefault.jpg)

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My votes:

Corto Maltese
Lone Wolf & Cub
100 Bullets
Excel Saga
Dark Victory

I really hope that at least one of Corto or Lone Wolf move on. They are both great comics, well deserving of their status as classics of the medium.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: gunswordfist on December 14, 2016, 10:26:25 AM
I wanted to finished Samurai Executioner first but I will put Lone Wolf & Cub on hold now.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 24, 2016, 06:31:35 PM
Excel Saga -
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Peerless social satire and all-around excellent comedy with a hilarious, diverse ensemble cast and an interesting story that is at times confusing but also really intriguing and full of big philosophical ideas. There's really nothing quite like this series out there and Rikdo Koshi is a unique talent I'm hoping will draw another manga as great as ES in the future.
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Lone Wolf & Cub -
Spoiler
By far Koike and Kojima's best work, with two iconic leads in Ito and Daigoro and one of the all time greatest manga villains in Yagyu Retsudo.
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Batman: Dark Victory -
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Really cool mystery that re-invents Robin's origin story and the fall of Harvey Dent to tie into Bruce's loneliness and sense of loss after Harvey became Two-Face. One of the best Two-Face stories there's ever been without a doubt.
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Corto Maltese -
Spoiler
Read Ballad of the Salt Sea and really dug it. Corto is a fascinating and fun character, came across to me as a cross between Indiana Jones and Cobra in a sense (I know he predates both of those characters by decades, couldn't think of another comparison). Also really enjoyed all the characters in general: The Monk was mysterious and more complex than your typical enigmatic chessmaster, the kids were sympathetic and you wanted to see them return home safe, Rasputin was a riot, and Quarto was just all-around cool (shame he died...). Definitely want to check more of this series out at some point.
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100 Bullets -
Spoiler
Had me hooked in it's first trade with Dizzy's story and the mystery behind Agent Graves. The second arc with the guy who was wrongly convicted for having child porn on his computer was interesting too in what it was setting up as this big conspiracy involving Agent Graves and powerful people in high places. Has me intrigued and eager to check out more down the line.
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Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: gunswordfist on December 24, 2016, 07:25:10 PM
Please do. 100 Bullets is my favorite comic book series. Well, I guess The Walking Dead is now since it is fresher in my mind. Also, awesome new festive signature!!
Hopefully I will have most of these in a few days. Tis the season.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: Pharass on December 27, 2016, 02:37:52 AM
Glad to see that more votes have been coming in. I figured that the tournament would come to a grinding halt during the season and all.

Quick update: I've decided to keep this match open until sometime after new year.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: Dreamer2 on January 01, 2017, 01:11:53 PM
Batman Dark Victory
Lone Wolf and Cub
100 Bullets
Excel Saga
Corto Maltese
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: gunswordfist on January 03, 2017, 11:14:17 AM
Hopefully I can get and read Dark Victory by the end of the day, then I will have read 3 of these and can vote.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: Pharass on January 04, 2017, 06:21:29 AM
I've decided to wrap this up by the end of the week. Just thought I'd let you guys know.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: Pharass on January 08, 2017, 10:02:27 AM
Well, its Sunday and I think everyone's been given ample time to vote. So, let's take a look at the results, shall we?

Batman: Dark Victory: 9 pts
100 Bullets: 7 pts
Excel Saga: 9 pts
Corto Maltese: 8 pts
Lone Wolf and Cub: 12 pts

Well, looks like we have another tie on our hands. As usual, I'll need one more vote for either Dark Victory or Excel Saga.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: Avaitor on January 08, 2017, 10:31:41 AM
I'm sorry that I couldn't vote for this match, but I'll give a vote to Excel Saga.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: gunswordfist on January 08, 2017, 10:48:51 AM
100 Bullets
Lone Wolf And Cub
Corto Maltese
Excel Saga
Batman Dark Victory
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: Pharass on January 09, 2017, 07:19:19 AM
Excel Saga and Lone Wolf and Cub move on to the next round.

(Sorry gun, but I'm afraid you were a bit late).

I'm going to take this opportunity to remind everyone that once the results are posted, the match is over. If there's a tie, then one extra vote may be given to either of the titles that have the same score. That said, I am considering adding a new rule, stating that you can only vote in the tie-breaker if you've also voted in the actual match. Are you guys fine with that? If so, than said rule will be effective starting with the upcoming match.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: Pharass on January 10, 2017, 06:32:03 AM
Round 1, Match 3:

DMZ by Brian Wood & Riccardo Burchielli

(https://s30.postimg.org/5bvo266ap/dmz2.jpg)

Vs.

Vagabond by Takehiko Inue

(https://s24.postimg.org/7oye98ikl/3783e720fc50f104c51e15415d8f7dcc.jpg)

Vs.

Spider-Man Blue by Jeff Loeb and Tim Sale

(https://s29.postimg.org/5bcgrpbmv/8l_Np8_XR.jpg)

Vs.

Ibicus by Pascal Rabaté

(https://s23.postimg.org/vfsg23azf/G_815_3.jpg)

Vs.

Detective Conan by Gosho Aoyama

(https://s28.postimg.org/syxq9d165/Vol75cover_Shinichi.png)


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My votes:

Ibicus
Vagabond
DMZ
Spider-Man Blue
Detective Conan
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: gunswordfist on January 10, 2017, 11:08:05 AM
I gotta read Vagabond, Conan and Ibicus. That Blue page gets me every time.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: Dreamer2 on January 17, 2017, 08:10:28 PM
Detective Conan
Spider-Man Blue
DMZ
Vagabond
Ibicus
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on February 28, 2017, 07:06:08 PM
Detective Conan
Vagabond
DMZ
Spider-Man Blue
Ibicus
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: Pharass on March 14, 2017, 02:28:37 AM
I must confess that with no more votes coming in, I had pretty much pronounced this tournament dead (or at least in a coma). Glad to see that I was wrong. Now, without further ado, here are the results:

DMZ: 9 pts
Vagabond: 10 pts
Spider-Man Blue: 8 pts
Ibicus: 7pts
Detective Conan: 11 pts

Vagabond and Detective Conan move on to the next round.

I shall try to have the following match up soon.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: Pharass on March 15, 2017, 01:38:12 PM
Round 1, Match 4:

JSA: The Golden Age by James Robinson & Paul Smith

(https://s17.postimg.org/y7317zydb/the_golden_age_1_page_18.jpg)

Vs.

Calvin & Hobbes by Bill Watterson

(https://s28.postimg.org/8v1zo0qj1/CH851203_JPG.jpg)

Vs.

Fullmetal Alchemist by Hiromu Arakawa

(https://s14.postimg.org/nn94wa3fl/22_23.png)

Vs.

Batman: The Long Halloween by Jeph Loeb and Tim Sale

(https://s27.postimg.org/yhjsd215v/image.jpg)

Vs.

Les 7 Vies de l'Epervier by Patrick Cothias & André Juillard

(https://s2.postimg.org/80kwob1k9/image.jpg)


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My votes:

Les 7 Vies de l'Epervier
Fullmetal Alchemist
Calvin & Hobbes
The Long Halloween
The Golden Age

The Golden Age is the only one of these that I haven't read.
Shameless self-promotion: I wrote about Les 7 Vies on my blog a few years back, here's the post, in case anyone's interested (http://viksallpurpose.blogspot.com/2014/10/comics-that-should-be-translated-les.html).
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 15, 2017, 05:07:43 PM
Hopefully I can get my hands on Long Halloween and Golden Age and read those soon. Don't think I'll be able to find Les 7 Vies de l'Epervier unless it's on Comixology though. Either way I'll try and vote before the end of the week.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: Avaitor on March 16, 2017, 04:28:19 PM
I'll try to get to some of the ones I've missed, as well.

Also, as I've been rereading The Life and Times of Scrooge McDuck, I'm still pretty bummed out that it didn't make it through. It's far and beyond among the best origin stories I've ever read, and adds so much to such an already rich character.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: gunswordfist on March 16, 2017, 06:09:40 PM
Dammit, I need to read some of these to vote for JSA. Amazing book.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: Pharass on March 23, 2017, 09:01:43 AM
Guys, I've given it some thought and I've decided to replace my choices with The Art of Charlie Chan Hock Chye by Sonny Liew. Its an amazing comic and as much as I like the one I plan to replace it with, I feel that Liew's comic is ultimately, more deserving at being in this tournament.

If any of you want to change one of your nominated comics for another, please let me know.
Thank you.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 23, 2017, 08:02:35 PM
Calvin & Hobbes -
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Classic comic of pure creativity, with beautiful and hillarious artwork by Bill Watterson, especially his watercolor illustrations, and capturing the pure essence of childhood imagination. Means a lot to me and has been a constant source of creative inspiration in my life.
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Fullmetal Alchemist -
Spoiler
Generally great manga with a wide cast of lovable characters, contemptible villains, and interesting ideas while also just being an excellent battle-shonen with great fights with intense emotional stakes.
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The Long Halloween -
Spoiler
Best origin story for Two-Face that I've ever seen with an intriguing mystery culminating in one hell of a twist.
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The Golden Age -
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Interesting Elseworlds story about how the JSA might realistically be affected and tormented by their involvement in WWII, as well as fun, goofy plot about the Ultra-Humanite taking over the Americommando's body and transplanting the brain of Hitler into Daniel Dunbar of all people to turn him into a superhuman in this ridiculously convoluted plan to take over the United States (and then the world) through political grandstanding and McCarthyist rhetoric. It's so dumb it's turns around and becomes amazing.
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Les 7 Vies de l'Epervier -
Spoiler
I looked, but I wasn't able to find and read an english version of this. Sorry, Pharass.  :(
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Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: Avaitor on March 24, 2017, 04:41:08 PM
Calvin & Hobbes
The Golden Age
Fullmetal Alchemist
The Long Halloween
Les 7 Vies de l'Epervier

I don't really like the middle two at all, but I can't find the last one, either.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: Dreamer2 on March 27, 2017, 12:42:25 AM
Quote from: Avaitor on March 24, 2017, 04:41:08 PM
Calvin & Hobbes
The Golden Age
Fullmetal Alchemist
The Long Halloween
Les 7 Vies de l'Epervier

I don't really like the middle two at all, but I can't find the last one, either.

:butbut:

That's all that needs to be said. As for my votes, I feel like I'm being rude to Calvin and Hobbes, but I have to do it. Sorry

Long Halloween
Fullmetal Alchemist
Golden Age
Les 7 Vies de l'Epervier
Calvin and Hobbes
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: Pharass on April 04, 2017, 07:54:35 AM
Results:

JSA: The Golden Age: 9 pts
Calvin & Hobbes: 14 pts
Fullmetal Alchemist: 15 pts
Batman: The Long Halloween: 12 pts
Les 7 Vies de l'Epervier: 9 pts

Calvin & Hobbes and Fullmetal Alchemist move on to Round 2.
The next match will be up soon.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: Pharass on April 07, 2017, 09:46:54 AM
Round 1, Match 5:

Static Shock by Dwayne McDuffie

(https://s9.postimg.org/txwz79fvj/image.jpg)

Vs.

Digger by Ursula Vernon

(https://s18.postimg.org/kecem4vo9/2007-10-11-wombat240-shrew.gif)

Vs.

Boxers & Saints by Gene Luen Yang

(https://s3.postimg.org/lmhgnbv77/boxers_preview_page_01.jpg)

Vs.

Pearls Before Swine by Stephen Pastis

(https://s14.postimg.org/xig6gnu35/pb-pb110116cmyk_ts.gif)

Vs.

Wolverine Origin by Paul Jenkins, Andy Kubert and Richard Isanove

(https://s10.postimg.org/rrnnqsk3d/Wolverine_origin1.jpg)

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My votes:

Digger
Boxers & Saints
Origin
Pearls Before Swine
Static Shock

To be honest, I'm not really a fan of Pearls (though I don't exactly dislike it). Its just that I haven't been able to find the version of Static written by McDuffie. A search on Comixology turned up Static Shock comics written by others, but not the one by its original creator.
Title: Re: The Greatest Comic Tournament
Post by: gunswordfist on April 07, 2017, 09:24:02 PM
That's a shame. It's a decent story.