Of course we still need a SpongeBob discussion and appreciation topic on this site, right?
Hence the fact that Nickelodeon overairs the series, SpongeBob still had his memorable moments, right? Why not discuss them right here! :thumbup:
I've been watching a lot of early episodes recently, and I really have grown to really love this show.
This episode in particular (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hFvciTB3ZT4&feature=related) had me laughing out loud through it.
Like I once said, the humor of the show to me is in how very Rocko it feels, though less on the social commentary and more on the weird plots that continually happen.
And another early clip this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6fYGt0b64Sg) was particularly hilarious. Squidward is a great character.
I completely agree this show is one of Nick's best and I just thought it was occasionally funny until I got the season 1 and 3 boxsets for Christmas back in 2006. Now I think the show is utterly brilliant. It had some rocky moments at the start. Like the Bubble Stand episode where they just go on and on and on and on and on and they're still getting their sealegs- meaning they don't know how funny or annoying SB will be as a character and so they just him go for maximum annoyance right away. He finds a better balance over the course of the show, but I have to say (since I haven't been watching any of the seasons closely after season 3) at the end of season 3 they get... really... well, Beavis & Butthead violent, uncomfortable gross-out. The scene where the Strangler character is trying to befriend SB and SB steps in his eyes with spiked shoes? Or, well, that whole episode where he flies by the... wind in his pants. Less said, the better. Or that episode where Patrick and SB spray paint each other naked. I mean, that's like a string 6 episodes at least in a row with uncomfortable themes and moments. It's as though they forgot that Ren & Stimpy ever existed.
Anyway, this show really was brilliant and very clever a lot of the time. I just re-watch that 3rd season especially in a kind of shock. It has the resourceful-bank of crazy, seemingly pointless ideas that are trademark Nickelodeon (especially on shows like All That) but find a way to not make them pointless. The episode I think I laughed the hardest at was "Naughty Nautical Neighbors." The episode where SB and Patrick are fighting over who is Squidward's best friend. That moment with the violin bow incited immediate HA!
Too bad the series has become such a mess over the years. They're basically in full "clock in, half-ass the day, collect paycheck" mode now. Nick probably wouldn't even let them stop if they wanted to, though; this is their golden goose, and they'd stand to lose too much money if it ended without a suitable successor (God knows Butch Hartman's output doesn't fit the bill, and there ain't much else after that).
...but yeah, Seasons 1-3 still hold up remarkably well, in spite of its current lackluster state. Band Geeks is one of the greatest things ever. I never get tired of that episode.
The post-movie episodes have been complete and utter crap. They abandoned the absurd, ironic writing and became nothing but a silly gagfest.
What sucks about that is, unlike Rugrats, Nick has no desire to ever find a replacement for Spongebob. They'll just milk it for all eternity. Animation-wise, it has no competition except Butch Hartman's garbage and whatever one-season forgotten show Nick decides to greenlight.
And yes, Band Geeks is the best episode, bar none.
Yeah, Nick will probably just milk SpongeBob for as long as they can. The only reason they may end it is if Tom Kenny dies, but even then, he might still be replaceable, and it's not like the show is going to drop massive ratings any time soon.
I do think that iCarly might be stealing it's thunder lately, but the sponge is still by far the most popular cartoon on today.
I'm indifferent with Spongebob. Sometimes I just find a lot of episodes boring but then there are other episodes which I find hilarious. I guess I can go either way with Spongebob. What's weird is, while I'm not really a huge Spongebob fan, I loved the movie. I thought it was extremely well done and was much better than what I was expecting of a Spongebob Squarepants movie.
The show hasn't been all that enjoyable after the movie though. Like Fox with The Simpsons, Nick is clearly going to milk Spongebob for all they possibly can.
Squidward is my favorite character. He's hilarious.
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/viacom-paramount-release-spongebob-movie-late-2014-philippe-dauman295695
I don't know what to say about this. I'm honestly shocked that the show is still popular enough to warrant a big budget film in this day and age, never mind more than two years from now. It kinda seems like a stretch really.
No less than 10 full years after the first movie. Huh.
Hey, maybe that means the series is finally about to end. If you remember, the original movie back in 2004 was supposed to be the series finale, so to speak, but because it made so much money and the show was such a megahit coming out of it, they decided to keep it going. I kinda doubt that'll be the case now, but you never know.
Well the ratings do seem to have been dropping significantly for SpongeBob lately. That, or it just hasn't been pulling Nickelodeon's weight as much as it used to anymore. I wouldn't be surprised if this was the end for the show.
I guess people are finally tired of it. Seeing as it's on every single time you turn Nick on, I guess viewers have finally caught on to how Nick has nothing.
Here's the funny thing. You know how I mentioned before that Nick has been sliding in the ratings since the second half of last year? They actually were the #1 channel again this month.
You know why, though? Because of new Victorious. SpongeBob doesn't seem to have helped at all.
Here's hoping they can get most of the old crew back together one last time if this really is the end of old SpongeBob.
Meant to post here sooner. Anyway...
To be honest, I suspected that this would happen someday. Considering SpongeBob's completely insane popularity, it always made sense... Especially since Rugrats got three films, and that was never nearly as popular as the sponge.
I'm not sure 2014 is totally unlikely. But if it is, then for all we know, it could be just an estimate. The movie could really be 2015 or something. Also, I'm not 100% confident this is actually happening. If it is, wouldn't be surprised if it was meant to be the final ending to the series... At least until it gives SpongeBob another boost in popularity leading to another continuation. :P
My thoughts? Excited, but also slightly worried. Without Hillenburg, I'm just not totally sure the writers have it in them. Yeah, they're good enough to make 22 minute episodes. But can their abilities translate to 90 minutes? Not sure... But still, it's SpongeBob. I loved the first movie, so of course I'm excited about another one!
hello spongebob. my name is pat-back!
ha, that is disturbing!
sorry, waiting for my netflix to load. why are you so slow?
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Looks like the beginning of the end for old SpongeBob. I will admit the show has overstayed its welcome, but its become so synonymous with the Nick branding that I can't really imagine modern Nick without him. Plus for being on the air for more than a decade now, the show is quite the dinosaur for modern TV. Funny how it debuted near the tail end of the 90's and will probably finish up in the current decade, the show lived through quite the long transitional era.
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Looks like the beginning of the end for old SpongeBob. I will admit the show has overstayed its welcome, but its become so synonymous with the Nick branding that I can't really imagine modern Nick without him. Plus for being on the air for more than a decade now, the show is quite the dinosaur for modern TV. Funny how it debuted near the tail end of the 90's and will probably finish up in the current decade, the show lived through quite the long transitional era.
It's really jarring how different it is from all the modern Nick shows since it's still a very 90s show at heart. Compare it with anything else on their line up and it sticks out like a sore thumb, and it has for years.
Even though it's been on auto-pilot for a while now, it's still gonna feel weird when it's gone since it really will be the end of classic Nick material on the network.
This wouldn't be happening if they didn't over-rely on SpongeBob so much in the first place.
And they're really going to shoot themselves in the foot if they end it now, since Nick doesn't have anything to replace it with right now. Live-action kid shows don't have anywhere near as long of a shelf life as cartoons do, they can't market the Dreamworks shows as their own, Avatar can't be overran and marketed like SpongeBob and Rugrats were, and none of their other cartoons have the lifestock or mass appeal that it did. They better work on a killer app ASAP if they're thinking of calling it a day for the sponge.
Quote from: Brak's Dad on May 13, 2012, 06:09:13 PM
This wouldn't be happening if they didn't over-rely on SpongeBob so much in the first place.
And they're really going to shoot themselves in the foot if they end it now, since Nick doesn't have anything to replace it with right now. Live-action kid shows don't have anywhere near as long of a shelf life as cartoons do, they can't market the Dreamworks shows as their own, Avatar can't be overran and marketed like SpongeBob and Rugrats were, and none of their other cartoons have the lifestock or mass appeal that it did. They better work on a killer app ASAP if they're thinking of calling it a day for the sponge.
Good point. This show consists of 40%(!) of their air-time. FORTY-PERCENT. If they took it off tomorrow, they'd have absolutely nothing to fill the void.
Maybe if they cultivated talent instead of relying on movie adaptions, Dan Schneider, and Spongebob, they'd be better off. Once kids get sick of all three (and they will), Nick will have nothing to replace them with.
This is something that Nickelodeon doesn't seem to realize- kids move on. this isn't the first time that their target audience got tired of certain things on the network. They've already grown weary of Butch Hartman, Klasky-Csupco (nostalgia aside), and even Ren & Stimpy.
If you run one show in particular for nearly half of your daily-alotted schedule, people will get tired of it. And Nick is just now starting to learn this.
Anyone saw the stop-motion special that aired on CBS yesterday? I watched it, and it's pretty good. It was very much done in the style of those Rankin/Bass "Animagic" shows, and I think they did a good job.
Funnily enough, CBS also aired Rankin's "Frosty the Snowman" before the Sponge. Haven't seen that special in years, so it was nice to see it again.
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I'd never thought I'd say this, but damn I feel old.
Wow, I even remember watching that episode back when it was brand new and airing for the very first time. Now that I stop to think about it, I believe that this show will be 15 years old by sometime next year.
Heh, For whatever reason, I can't bring myself to think of the show as being old. In my mind, it still feels like its only a few years old.
Well, the first few seasons are kind of timeless. I can see an episode from the first three seasons and still laugh my ass off.
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No it isn't. I'm still a thirteen year old on summer vacation constantly rewatching my prized VHS of recorded SpongeBob episodes while waiting for the movie to finally hit theaters.
How time flies... :cry:
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When this came over my tumblr feed, I just had to.
SpongeBob Comics are coming. (http://blogs.indiewire.com/animationscoop/spongebob-annual)
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SpongeBob Comics are coming. (http://blogs.indiewire.com/animationscoop/spongebob-annual)
QuoteIf you love cartoons, you probably love comic books.
Since when has this been a "thing"? :wth:
I have never met someone who likes cartoons but not comics.
Quote from: Foggle on April 20, 2013, 11:41:33 PM
I have never met someone who likes cartoons but not comics.
I dunno. People liking cartoons just seems far more common than people being fans of comic books.
But... there was already a Spongebob comic book. The covers were usually awesome.
Well, to be fair, there are some people that I know who like cartoons but don't read any comics. That isn't to say that they wouldn't like them if they did, but they just don't buy or read comics.
Would you have this as your tombstone? (http://news.msn.com/us/iraq-veterans-spongebob-gravestone-removed)
Yeah, that's a bizarre story. If she really was that big a fan of Spongebob, and her family wants it I don't see why the cemetery should have a problem.
We should start taking bets on how many seasons that SpongeBob will end with.
I predict it will end with season 15, unless something shocking happens sooner that essentially forces it to be canceled.
So I felt like talking about my history with this series. Just for the heck of it, plus most of you probably know that I'm a fan of it. Read it if you wish.
I can vividly remember seeing previews for this show, back in 1998 or 1999. At this time, I think I was kind of thinking that it would end up being a really lame show. However, I did quickly grow to love it. My first episode was most likely the pilot episode, Help Wanted, since that episode was airing well before the series even officially began. Funny enough, I remember that, at first, I liked it because of the supporting characters. SpongeBob himself wasn't as likable to me. At this point, SpongeBob is one of my favorite characters in general, so it's a far cry from that.
I think it was around 2004 when I became the massive fan that I grew to be. I remember, it was the summer of that year, and due to many reasons, I was always alone at home by myself for the majority of weekdays. I saw that SpongeBob was going to be airing a set of episodes one morning, so I decided to take out a VHS and record them. This is what we typically did with TV shows back then when we wanted to rewatch episodes, as well as movies, and it was an idea that I had considered doing for SpongeBob before. I remember the very first episodes I recorded was titled Shanghaied, the one where SpongeBob, Patrick, and Squidward end up on the Flying Dutchman's ship and must become his ghostly crew (Squidward ends up being thrown into the Fly of Despair, though). I must have watched that episode countless times, and it quickly became my favorite in the entire series. Yeah, I know some of you guys, as well as many fans in general, consider Band Geeks to be the best episode of the series. But to me, it's Shanghaied.
Eventually, I got the first three seasons on DVD, so my video tapes became obsolete within a few years. But they had their use for a time. I wonder where they currently are.
So yeah, I ended up watching that show constantly that summer. And then the movie was announced. I'd like to backtrack a bit and mention that I can specifically remember, before that summer, claiming that, if they ever were to make a SpongeBob movie, it would probably be stupid... And then the movie was announced, and I was pumped. Yeah, I know that, on this forum, opinions on the movie are mixed (opinions on this show in general are mixed here). But I fell in love with the movie immediately. I remember renting it from Blockbuster, and for some reason, it was only a two day rental... I watched it both nights, extended the rental another two days, and then watched it the next two nights, before bringing it back and missing it. In retrospect, I can admit that some of my love for it was slight fanboyism. But even still, I do think the movie is just as good, if not even better, then any of the best episodes the series has to offer.
It was announced that season 4 would begin soon after that. I was still pumped about the movie, so I was more than ready to see the show continue. But, as it should go without saying for anyone who has seen the show, this was the point where things began to turn sour. When I saw season 4, for a period of time I convinced myself that there wasn't really anything wrong. But I was soon able to look past that and say... yeah, it wasn't the same. It was nowhere near the level of the previous seasons, especially season 2 and season 3. But I did still watch it and, perhaps due to my closeness to this show, I continued to thoroughly enjoy it. That enjoyment continued into season 5, which I saw all of.
It was season 6 (and maybe the very beginning of season 7, depending on if they aired during season 6) where my excitement was really beginning to fade, and my support for this show couldn't last much longer. I don't remember when I completely fell out of the habit of keeping up with it. I do remember I was still watching new episodes during 2008 and early 2009, such as one where Mr. Krabs' grandfather came to visit the Krusty Krab. I remember I was there when SpongeBob was celebrating its 10 year anniversary. But around this time, I just stopped keeping up with the series.
In the years since then, I did continue to watch the show... occasionally. But it was never out of eagerness or even habit. I just thought I felt obligated to keep up with it because I was a long time fan, and I felt I needed to stick with it until the end. But there was no consistency to this. I would go months of not seeing it, and then would suddenly remember the series and learn that I had missed 15-20 episodes after months away from it. So I'd spend a period of time trying to catch up on those episodes and, before completing that, I'd fall out of the habit again. And then another 15-20 episodes would air, and the cycle would continue. So I guess, in a way, there was consistency after all. :P
It wasn't until sometime more recently when I came to realize I should just let it go. It's certainly the cartoon that I have stick with for the longest period of time, but after a show passes its prime, you can only stick it for so long. And then it becomes a question of "How long?". I think I stuck with it for a good enough amount of time, considering the fact that the great episodes only amount to, like, 1/3 of the entire series by now. I think they are on season 10 by now, but I've lost track, really.
I do still love SpongeBob, but mainly for what it once was. Seasons 1-3 are my favorite things to come out of Nickelodeon, and some of my favorite batches of episodes of any series in general (and I'm serious about that). And while they are nowhere near anything great, I feel like I'd still like season 4 and 5 if I were to watch them today, as well as a few episodes scattered all around later seasons. But that's about it. And it's funny because I can remember a time when I would argue with the people who claimed SpongeBob should have ended with the movie. But now... I have to agree with that opinion. Those three seasons would've meant it had a perfect run, and the movie would have been a very satisfying end to the series. But yeah, at this point, I'm not going to be rushing to see new episodes, or make an effort to catch ones that I missed.
Looking at your write-up, it reminds me of just how old this series is now, and how it even technically started in the 90's. I remember being addicted to it as a kid, then losing interest in it, and then coming back to watching the occasional reruns with my little sister when I was babysitting her. The show really has changed a lot since its inception, which does of course only make sense.
As for me, I'm not a fan of the show, but I do enjoy watching it to varying degrees. I certainly never understood the unfounded hate for it on this board. I mean, I can perfectly understand not liking it, but there are much worse shows out there that are more worthy of hating on.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on February 27, 2014, 12:56:49 PM
As for me, I'm not a fan of the show, but I do enjoy watching it to varying degrees. I certainly never understood the unfounded hate for it on this board. I mean, I can perfectly understand not liking it, but there are much worse shows out there that are more worthy of hating on.
I don't think hatred's the right word, especially since only a couple of people don't like it, and not with seething hatred. But I do have to admit that personally, I'll never understand why it's this show that's still around and still such a big deal.
You've got quite the history with the ol' Sponge Talon! I'll keep my own short: I was always moving in and out of hating and liking Spongebob as a kid, mainly because sometimes I felt it was too overplayed and that kind of stuff annoyed me back then. Eventually, though, I got into another phase of liking the series again, and grew to really, really love it's finest episodes. Pretty much all of season two and three are gold, in my opinion, and I can agree with you that I think those are the finest seasons of any Nicktoon. As for the post-movie stuff, I do like season 4 and 5 quite a bit, but when season 6 started I found the episodes to get increasingly uninspired and the characters more obnoxious, and it came to a point where I just couldn't stand seeing them. I haven't watched new episodes of the Sponge in a looonnnggg time now, but the first 5 seasons still are solid entertainment for me and I love watching just about any episode in them.
I personally enjoy the movie. Most people I know really love it. It was one of three movies we always watched every year on the bus when I was in ski club. It would have been a great way to send off the series if it had ended with season 3, but as it is now it's still by far the best movie based on a Nick show. I'm curious about the second movie, though I doubt it'll be as good as the first.
"Shangheid" is also my favorite episode, by the way. :thumbup:
Thanks for looking at my history, guys. I think you could easily argue that SpongeBob isn't actually as good a show as many other animated comedies. But it just means a lot to me, personally, for the first part of its lifespan.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on February 27, 2014, 12:56:49 PM
Looking at your write-up, it reminds me of just how old this series is now, and how it even technically started in the 90's. I remember being addicted to it as a kid, then losing interest in it, and then coming back to watching the occasional reruns with my little sister when I was babysitting her. The show really has changed a lot since its inception, which does of course only make sense.
I remember someone on this forum mentioned it before, but in spite of the changes SpongeBob has gone through, it still feels like a dinosaur compared to every other show on Nickelodeon. You have all these shows made in recent years, and then you have this 90s relic, still bringing in viewers.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on February 27, 2014, 12:56:49 PM
As for me, I'm not a fan of the show, but I do enjoy watching it to varying degrees. I certainly never understood the unfounded hate for it on this board. I mean, I can perfectly understand not liking it, but there are much worse shows out there that are more worthy of hating on.
Many of those worse shows existed on the same channel. :P
Quote from: Avaitor on February 27, 2014, 01:07:51 PM
I don't think hatred's the right word, especially since only a couple of people don't like it, and not with seething hatred. But I do have to admit that personally, I'll never understand why it's this show that's still around and still such a big deal.
I'm not sure about current episodes, but I still think the first three seasons are gold. They might be why the show still brings in ratings. Had the show started with season 4, I'm not sure it could have gained that popularity.
Quote from: Cartoon X on February 27, 2014, 01:34:36 PM
You've got quite the history with the ol' Sponge Talon! I'll keep my own short: I was always moving in and out of hating and liking Spongebob as a kid, mainly because sometimes I felt it was too overplayed and that kind of stuff annoyed me back then. Eventually, though, I got into another phase of liking the series again, and grew to really, really love it's finest episodes. Pretty much all of season two and three are gold, in my opinion, and I can agree with you that I think those are the finest seasons of any Nicktoon. As for the post-movie stuff, I do like season 4 and 5 quite a bit, but when season 6 started I found the episodes to get increasingly uninspired and the characters more obnoxious, and it came to a point where I just couldn't stand seeing them. I haven't watched new episodes of the Sponge in a looonnnggg time now, but the first 5 seasons still are solid entertainment for me and I love watching just about any episode in them.
That's how I used to be with a lot of things. I went through phases. I still do to a certain extent. You might notice that even my posting goes through patterns. Recently, I made a lot of Yu Yu Hakusho posts, for example. Was kind of a phase.
I like season 4 and 5 more than the later seasons, but only a little. It might be because they are closer to the golden seasons in terms of when they were made. Current episodes just feel so far away from those days.
My favorite post-movie episode might be Krusty Towers.
Quote from: Cartoon X on February 27, 2014, 01:34:36 PM
I personally enjoy the movie. Most people I know really love it. It was one of three movies we always watched every year on the bus when I was in ski club. It would have been a great way to send off the series if it had ended with season 3, but as it is now it's still by far the best movie based on a Nick show. I'm curious about the second movie, though I doubt it'll be as good as the first.
I think they should have just let a good thing be, and stay with one movie. And the first movie would indeed have been a great send off. It was great, and it just ended on a good note, of SpongeBob being the manager of the new Krusty Krab... Besides, what happened to the new Krusty Krab later seasons? I mean, I know SpongeBob isn't a series for storyline, but my love for the movie keeps me from denying it as canon. :P
Quote from: Cartoon X on February 27, 2014, 01:34:36 PM
"Shangheid" is also my favorite episode, by the way. :thumbup:
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Actually, over the years, my favorite changed many times. My first true favorite was Shanghaied. But over a long stretch of time, it also changed to episodes like Idiot Box, Snowball Effect, Survival of the Idiots (currently my second favorite episode), and for a long stretch of time, it was SpongeBob's House Party (there might also be a few others in there, but I can't remember them. But in time, I reverted back to my original, true favorite. My friends can vouch for this, but I there was a time when I could quote the entire episode. I might still be able to quote it, at least 75% of it.
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Quote from: Cartoon X on February 27, 2014, 01:34:36 PM
I personally enjoy the movie. Most people I know really love it. It was one of three movies we always watched every year on the bus when I was in ski club. It would have been a great way to send off the series if it had ended with season 3, but as it is now it's still by far the best movie based on a Nick show. I'm curious about the second movie, though I doubt it'll be as good as the first.
I think they should have just let a good thing be, and stay with one movie. And the first movie would indeed have been a great send off. It was great, and it just ended on a good note, of SpongeBob being the manager of the new Krusty Krab... Besides, what happened to the new Krusty Krab later seasons? I mean, I know SpongeBob isn't a series for storyline, but my love for the movie keeps me from denying it as canon. :P
I seem to recall reading somewhere that the movie is supposed to take place a length of time after all the episodes. That way any new episodes wounldn't contradict it.
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Quote from: Cartoon X on February 27, 2014, 01:34:36 PM
I personally enjoy the movie. Most people I know really love it. It was one of three movies we always watched every year on the bus when I was in ski club. It would have been a great way to send off the series if it had ended with season 3, but as it is now it's still by far the best movie based on a Nick show. I'm curious about the second movie, though I doubt it'll be as good as the first.
I think they should have just let a good thing be, and stay with one movie. And the first movie would indeed have been a great send off. It was great, and it just ended on a good note, of SpongeBob being the manager of the new Krusty Krab... Besides, what happened to the new Krusty Krab later seasons? I mean, I know SpongeBob isn't a series for storyline, but my love for the movie keeps me from denying it as canon. :P
I seem to recall reading somewhere that the movie is supposed to take place a length of time after all the episodes. That way any new episodes wounldn't contradict it.
That's easily better than just writing it off as non-canon. It does create a sense of weirdness because, for the most part, SpongeBob's character in the movie is far more along the lines of how he was in the first three seasons. Since season 4, he grew to be much more... well, loud, childish, and overall a bit more of a generic. Then again, like I said, story doesn't matter at all to this series. I can only think of a few instances of direct continuity where characters directly referenced previous episodes.
I like the show, don't love it. The early episodes are much more enjoyable than the later ones are, though.
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I'd never thought I'd say this, but damn I feel old.
Jesus....
The 90's wasn't that long ago, you guys.
I've spent more than half of my life outside of the 90s now. It is for me.
Ditto.
I didn't really feel that old until one day my nephew was looking over my shoulder while I was looking at set pictures and he asked me who that new Ranger was next to the Samurai Green Ranger.
It was this picture.
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Quote from: No-Personality on March 13, 2014, 01:11:35 PM
The 90's wasn't that long ago, you guys.
I think once anything approaches 10 years old, the nostalgia starts to brood a bit.
Anyway I love the older episodes. This
was a great show. I literally cannot stomach anything that came after the movie though; most of it's just too weird, too gross, and too underwhelming for me to watch objectively. Trying to watch Season 4 Spongebob after Season 3 is like trying to watch Season 11 Simpsons after Season 5 or something. And really, it's too bad that it had such a short-lived peak; when these guys were rolling, they came out with some pretty great stuff. They don't get much better than this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu_50_K5JkI).
I thought he was going to see it was piss. :D
For a show with such a short lived prime, it sure did give me a lot of great memories. I stand by saying that era of Spongebob isn't overrated at all.
I remember when that scene actually used to air on TV, I saw that episode countless times with it uncensored. I wonder when exactly it was cut, and for what reason. I've heard it had something to do with 9/11, but I don't think that's it because I swear I saw the episode for at least a couple of years after that uncut. Plus you have episodes like the exploding pie that didn't get cut up.
I don't remember that scene at all.
Quote from: Kiddington on March 18, 2014, 02:45:20 PM
Anyway I love the older episodes. This was a great show. I literally cannot stomach anything that came after the movie though; most of it's just too weird, too gross, and too underwhelming for me to watch objectively. Trying to watch Season 4 Spongebob after Season 3 is like trying to watch Season 11 Simpsons after Season 5 or something. And really, it's too bad that it had such a short-lived peak; when these guys were rolling, they came out with some pretty great stuff. They don't get much better than this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu_50_K5JkI).
I agree 100%. I still say that SpongeBob seasons 1-3 are the best things Nickelodeon has ever put out. It's really sad to think that the good era of SpongeBob only amounts to 1/3 of its entire existence. And that will only shrink as time goes on.
Quote from: Comeau on March 18, 2014, 07:04:34 PM
I remember when that scene actually used to air on TV, I saw that episode countless times with it uncensored. I wonder when exactly it was cut, and for what reason. I've heard it had something to do with 9/11, but I don't think that's it because I swear I saw the episode for at least a couple of years after that uncut. Plus you have episodes like the exploding pie that didn't get cut up.
I think media just got more defensive about that stuff over time. It didn't really all happen in one fell swoop right after 9/11.
Here's another deleted scene in the Procrastination. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q0WLYeoUgcg
They must have thought the car crash moment was too violent, but it doesn't explain why they cut out the entire 30 seconds of innocent silliness that follows it. The car crashing moment is the funniest part of the episode too. Though it doesn't effect me too much as that scene remains intact on the DVD, though the scene from Just One Bite isn't on the DVD.
The drag racing part got cut? That's weird, it's so harmless.
Quote from: Comeau on March 19, 2014, 06:53:57 PM
The drag racing part got cut? That's weird, it's so harmless.
As is the scene in Just One Bite.
Our Netflix only has Spongebob season 4-7.
Yippee?
We don't have it at all anymore, lost it along with all the other Viacom stuff last year. Wish they'd bring it all back.
I have the first three seasons on DVD so I'm set for life.
Quote from: Comeau on February 29, 2012, 05:23:14 PM
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/viacom-paramount-release-spongebob-movie-late-2014-philippe-dauman295695
I don't know what to say about this. I'm honestly shocked that the show is still popular enough to warrant a big budget film in this day and age, never mind more than two years from now. It kinda seems like a stretch really.
Is this still happening this year?
I still hear rumblings about it sometimes, but I think it got pushed to next year. I remember reading something about the full slate of movies 2015 is supposed to have, and that one was one of them.
My interests in that are very low. I just know it won't be as good.
I have no idea when it's coming out, though.
Quote from: Comeau on March 10, 2012, 07:00:47 PM
hello spongebob. my name is pat-back!
ha, that is disturbing!
sorry, waiting for my netflix to load. why are you so slow?
Was I drunk when I posted this? It's so hard to tell.
Quote from: Comeau on March 19, 2014, 07:28:19 PM
Quote from: Comeau on March 10, 2012, 07:00:47 PM
hello spongebob. my name is pat-back!
ha, that is disturbing!
sorry, waiting for my netflix to load. why are you so slow?
Was I drunk when I posted this? It's so hard to tell.
No caps? Probably drunk.
I think this is the first time I've ever heard about a cartoon getting edited after it airs.
I watched Band Geeks a bit ago, and I caught something that I never noticed before; at one point Spongebob alludes to Larry the Lobster OD'ing on pills. It took me slightly aback.
Quote from: Comeau on March 27, 2014, 07:10:33 PM
I watched Band Geeks a bit ago, and I caught something that I never noticed before; at one point Spongebob alludes to Larry the Lobster OD'ing on pills. It took me slightly aback.
Link?
Quote from: gunswordfist on March 27, 2014, 07:53:22 PM
Quote from: Comeau on March 27, 2014, 07:10:33 PM
I watched Band Geeks a bit ago, and I caught something that I never noticed before; at one point Spongebob alludes to Larry the Lobster OD'ing on pills. It took me slightly aback.
Link?
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http://youtu.be/WSH6ijSK87A?t=7m45s
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on March 27, 2014, 08:01:24 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on March 27, 2014, 07:53:22 PM
Quote from: Comeau on March 27, 2014, 07:10:33 PM
I watched Band Geeks a bit ago, and I caught something that I never noticed before; at one point Spongebob alludes to Larry the Lobster OD'ing on pills. It took me slightly aback.
Link?
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That's Zelda. And what kind of pills did Spongebob say Larry used?
"And Larry, when your heart gave out from all those tanning pills, who revived you?" - SpongeBob
Ah, tanning...the hell kind of pills is that?
Quote from: gunswordfist on March 27, 2014, 08:41:50 PM
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on March 27, 2014, 08:01:24 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on March 27, 2014, 07:53:22 PM
Quote from: Comeau on March 27, 2014, 07:10:33 PM
I watched Band Geeks a bit ago, and I caught something that I never noticed before; at one point Spongebob alludes to Larry the Lobster OD'ing on pills. It took me slightly aback.
Link?
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That's Zelda.
No it's not, it's Link.
Woosh!
Yeah, I just saw a few of the more recent episodes... they're really dumb. They mostly forget punchlines for the sake of being weird and no longer really bother with character humor when they can do a gross-out gag of some kind. It really is a shame that it fell so far.
It's like the later-era Rugrats staff got a hold of it.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 28, 2014, 06:57:55 PM
Yeah, I just saw a few of the more recent episodes... they're really dumb. They mostly forget punchlines for the sake of being weird and no longer really bother with character humor when they can do a gross-out gag of some kind. It really is a shame that it fell so far.
It's like the later-era Rugrats staff got a hold of it.
New Spongebob just feels so generic. It's lost the charm and the style of humor it had and now just uses a bunch of gross jokes with overly stupid characters.
I'd still say it's much better than post-movie Rugrats.
I think Spongebob in general is better than Rugrats, but eh.
To be honest, there are actually a few post-movie SpongeBob episodes that I like. I can't say I liked any post-movie Rugrats episode.
I think there are quite a few good ones in season 4 and some in season 5. "The Lost Mattress," "Skill Crane," "Dunces & Dragons," "Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy VI: The Motion Picture," "Mrs. Puff, You're Fired," "Karate Island," and "The Inmates of Summer" rank as some of my personal favorite episodes in the show, actually.
Quote from: Comeau on March 29, 2014, 02:01:05 PM
I think Spongebob in general is better than Rugrats, but eh.
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Quote from: Comeau on March 29, 2014, 02:01:05 PM
I think Spongebob in general is better than Rugrats, but eh.
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I'm going to start using that all the time.
"How many times do we have to teach you this lesson, old man?"
"I love the young people."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_SpongeBob_Movie:_Sponge_Out_of_Water
Still think they don't need to make this. I just know it won't be as good.
It probably won't, but I do hold out hope it'll at least be a fun watch. Of course, with how the show is nowadays, that's a small hope to say the least.
At the very least, Hillenburg played a part in writing it.
Quoteit looked as though this was a CGI/live-action hybrid akin to Alvin and the Chipmunks, Yogi Bear, The Smurfs, etc.
:shit:
Yeah, no hope for this. I would have loved a sequel that would have given much more screen time to everyone not named Patrick, Spongebob or Plankton. I really like the Spongebob, probably still my favorite animated movie in between its release and now but they gave no one else any time to shine.
So I just feel like reminding people of one of the best episodes of the entire series.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAEDQwMtf4o
It's no secret that "Band Geeks" is one of Spongebob's best episodes. I think it's universally beloved by every Sponge fan.
The best part of that episode was when Spongebob brought up Larry overdosing on tanning pills.
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A thousand is worth thousand words, yet all this picture speaks is random gibberish.
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A thousand is worth thousand words, yet all this picture speaks is random gibberish.
This made Marquis scream in anger.
The end is nigh.
What the fuck am I even looking at? Is this some spin-off where Spongebob is now a superhero and fights crime near the beach?
In the last third of the movie, it becomes a CG/live-action hybrid, and this is the result of that.
I wanted to mention this episode I saw about a week ago.
The central plot involves Squidward realizing he never had a "happiest memory" which leads Spongebob, of course, to try all sorts of things to make Squidward have one. This episode highlights everything I don't like about the show as it is now.
Squidward gets mercilessly kicked around in this episode despite literally doing nothing wrong, and falls into a deep depression actually being suicidal (suicide jokes are also used which is just off for a kids show like this) and hitting rock bottom. The episode ends with Spongebob throwing a party for Squidward, and nobody shows up, though he makes cardboard cutouts of himself to fill the party. Squidward then snaps and chainsaws every fake Spongebob as graphically as censors will allow as the episode ends.
There is no joke here. There is no story. There is no reason for this episode to have been made.
How did this show get this bad?
I got scared just from reading that.
The Spongebob writers need to learn that mean-spirited humor is only funny in small doses and when balanced by light-hearted/feel good humor. The also need to learn that making a character just a punching-bag for no good reason is never funny. Meg abuse is one of the worst parts about Family Guy, and Squidward abuse is one of the worst parts about Spongebob, period.
But really, episodes like that exist because the writers have simply run out of ideas, so they are just slapping together whatever lazy, half-assed storyline they can make and just pad it out to eleven minutes. There are few well-structured episodes anymore. It's mostly just a whole bunch of meandering nonsense. It's no wonder why it's so terrible now.
If it makes you feel better, Squidward does have a happiest memory. His lifelong dream was to play for the Bubble Bowl, and he accomplished that big time. That freeze frame shot at the end of Band Geeks is the happiest he's ever looked.
This episode says he has no happiest memory? In that case, it's non-canon. All post-movie episodes are non-canon.
Squidward getting comeuppance is only funny when he, you know, does something to earn it. The episode was just one huge character beatdown with an ending that was probably the single laziest I've ever seen in this show.
Literally half of the jokes are just Squidward dressing shabbily and moaning about how pointless his life is. There's no joke here. We're just supposed to laugh because he's miserable and suicidal. No idea what they were thinking on this one, but wow was it awful.
I never minded Meg abuse. In fact, weren't there some jokes about them choosing between Chris and Meg and they always choose Meg? Yeah, I actually liked those. :D I don't mind them using Meg to make fun of that type of character - the problem is, they all act like jerks to each other. It's like one of the most insincere shows ever made.
Also, Squidward abuse wasn't at all one of the worst parts of classic SpongeBob (though there really weren't any "worst parts" of that era). It was always done well. The Camping Episode, for example, was one of the better episodes of the whole series.
The Conch episode? That had actual jokes and Squidward actually being a jerk. This one didn't even have that.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 02, 2014, 04:19:01 PM
The Conch episode? That had actual jokes and Squidward actually being a jerk. This one didn't even have that.
I was talking about the sea bear episode, but yeah, the conch episode is another phenomenal episode. Classic SpongeBob knew how to handle the abuse well.
What would you guys consider to be the ultimate reason why SpongeBob has declined since seasons 1-3?
Hillenburg left.
The characters have been flanderized to shallow shells of their former selves, the show's put more emphasis in gross-out, loud, and mean humor, and they've run out of genuinely creative ideas and stories to tell, so a lot of the plots are hastily put together with no real structure or sense to them. It's just going through the motions now.
Quote from: Cartoon X on September 09, 2014, 08:29:06 PM
The characters have been flanderized to shallow shells of their former selves, the show's put more emphasis in gross-out, loud, and mean humor, and they've run out of genuinely creative ideas and stories to tell, so a lot of the plots are hastily put together with no real structure or sense to them. It's just going through the motions now.
What I mean is, why do you think all of that happened?
One possibility, as Dr. Insomniac suggested, is Hillenburg leaving.
Oh. Well, yeah, then I agree with the Doc that Hillenburg leaving as showrunner after the movie was the start of the series' gradual decline to what it is now.
that was almost a stupid question, talon.
I was thinking, and I have to say that Club SpongeBob, the conch episode, might be the understated perfect character episode. And it perfectly reflects the contrast between the classic era of the show, and what it is now. These days, the episodes basically just force situations (for example, tormenting Squidward as much as possible because it's "funny"). However, in Club SpongBob, nothing is forced. Well, I suppose you could say the same for anything from the golden era of the show. But I think this episode is one of the perfect examples of them not having to push anything at all. The writers basically just took SpongeBob, Patrick, and Squidward (the three best characters of the show), threw them into an unusual place, and then let the characters take over and essentially write the story themselves. The episode isn't necessarily as good as Band Geeks, but I do say that it is arguably the most simple and pure character-based episode.
^ In general, if you have well-defined characters with clear motivations, the scripts pretty much write themselves.
Quote from: Speedy on September 11, 2014, 04:16:18 PM
^ In general, if you have well-defined characters with clear motivations, the scripts pretty much write themselves.
That's the beauty of classic SpongeBob. Other classics, such as Pizza Delivery (considered by nearly everyone to be one of the best episodes), also excel at it in their own ways.
In contrast, I remember an episode of season 4 where the entire episode was literally nothing more than Squidward trying to relax on a Sunday, and SpongeBob and Patrick just bothering him in all sorts of different ways, ruining his day off. That's
all there is to the episode. Nothing else happens. And the series just got worse and worse from there.
I'm gonna get you, Dirty Dan and Pinhead Larry.
You're nothin' but pure evil! Just like newspaper comics...
What do you guys think is the best season of the show: season 2, or season 3 (because it's obviously going to come down to those two, despite how good season 1 is)?
As a point of reference, I'll give you a Wikipedia list of the episodes in both seasons.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpongeBob_SquarePants_(season_2) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpongeBob_SquarePants_(season_2))
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpongeBob_SquarePants_(season_3) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SpongeBob_SquarePants_(season_3))
Season 2. Both are equally strong seasons at their best, but season 3 had "Ugh," which is a pretty bad episode, and a few other weaker entries, whereas season 2 is pretty much consistent throughout with some of the series' best, iconic episodes.
Quote from: Cartoon X on September 16, 2014, 12:20:22 PM
Season 2. Both are equally strong seasons at their best, but season 3 had "Ugh," which is a pretty bad episode, and a few other weaker entries, whereas season 2 is pretty much consistent throughout with some of the series' best, iconic episodes.
I don't think season 2 was always gold. It took until Dying for Pie for that season to get to its peak (from that point, it was pretty much smooth sailing). The first few episodes are pretty unremarkable.
Also, I might argue that Chocolate with Nuts and The Krusty Krab Training Video are iconic just like Band Geeks and Graveyard Shift.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on September 16, 2014, 12:25:38 PM
I don't think season 2 was always gold. It took until Dying for Pie for that season to get to its peak (from that point, it was pretty much smooth sailing). The first few episodes are pretty unremarkable.
Also, I might argue that Chocolate with Nuts and The Krusty Krab Training Video are iconic just like Band Geeks and Graveyard Shift.
Season 3 has a lot of my favorite episodes from the series. Still, season 2 didn't have an episode nearly as bad as "Ugh," and season 3 had it's share of unremarkable episodes as well, so I really do think season 2 has the edge over it.
Ugh wasn't too bad. When I was young it was actually my least favorite episode, but I think it's pretty fine nowadays.
I feel like the only classic SpongeBob I sort of disliked was Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy II. I just never thought it was that funny.
Both are pretty solid. For season 2, I can't think of a single mediocre short up until the Christmas special, after which it gets a bit more hit and miss.
For season 3, my favorites:
-The Algae's Always Greener ("Victory screech!")
-Sponge Guard on Duty ("Butt cramps!")
-Just One Bite ("I remember MY first Krabby Patty...")
-Nasty Patty ("Oops, I dropped it in the toilet.")
-Doing Time ("These are my people.")
-As Seen on TV ("Alas, good people, even the brightest of stars grow weary, and I am no exception. But I will shine again after a quick break in my quarters. Stay beautiful.")
-Can You Spare a Dime ("Hmm, that's TWO things in this house that WON'T. WORK.")
-No Weenies Allowed ("WEENIE HUT GENERAL?!")
-Squilliam Returns ("Humina-humina-humina-humina...")
-Rock-a-Bye Bivalve ("Let's have another.")
-Wet Painters
-Krusty Krab Training Video ("After the war, Krabs stayed secluded in a deep depression that seemed endless.")
-Chocolate With Nuts ("I remember the first time I tasted chocolate... sweet, sweet chocolate. I ALWAYS HATED IT!")
This is probably the best top 10 episode list I can do, at least right now.
1. Shanghaied
2. Band Geeks
3. Club SpongeBob
4. Survival of the Idiots
5. Chocolate with Nuts
6. Snowball Effect
7. Graveyard Shift
8. Idiot Box
9. Life of Crime
10. Pizza Delivery
I need to rewatch the series again sometime, but I'd say my favorite are:
1. Shanghaied
2. Chocolate with Nuts
3. Krusty Krab Training Video
4. The Camping Episode
5. Survival of the Idiots
6. SB-129
7. Life of Crime
8. Frankendoodle
9. Procrastination
10. Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy VI: The Motion Picture
Quote from: Cartoon X on September 16, 2014, 04:03:44 PM
3. Krusty Krab Training Video
4. The Camping Episode
I heavily considered these two episodes for the list.
I like most of the early episodes, so I don't really know if I could rank them.
If we're talking post-season 3, I quite like "Fear of a Krabby Patty", "Mermaid Man & Barnacle Boy VI: The Motion Picture", "Krusty Towers", "Mrs. Puff, You're Fired!", "The Lost Mattress", and "Karate Island". There's some good stuff, but it tapers off eventually.
I like Krusty Towers and the wishing well episode from season 4. I also liked the episode of season 5 when SpongeBob and Patrick are afraid to ride a really big roller coaster, but I wouldn't be surprised if I wouldn't enjoy that episode nowadays.
They really fell apart after season 3.
By the way, I really like the Christmas special, Christmas Who?. However, even though this was a joke I once loved, I can't say how much I actually like it now, knowing that it was taken directly from Ren & Stimpy.
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I just don't know. Nickelodeon in the past has recycled ideas and types of jokes. But this one in particular felt a bit insincere to me. Almost as if they just stuck it in there in the hopes that people would think they came up with it.
For those that need a reminder, in this moment of Christmas Who?, Squidward starts teasing SpongeBob because Santa never came to Bikini Bottom. SpongeBob is upset but gives Squidward a Christmas present anyway. When Squidward sees the gift, feeling ashamed, he says "I feel like a... I feel like a...", then, this image of a donkey fades in along with the sound of a donkey call. This exact same joke was used in Ren & Stimpy, though in that show it was a little less... safe. Instead of showing a donkey, it showed... well, just think of the obvious implications of what the donkey means. That's what appears in Ren & Stimpy.
You've probably all seen this already, but: http://www.nowcultured.com/2013/30-funny-detail-pics-in-spongebob/ . I personally love "Does THIS Look Unsure to You?", "These Are My People", "Sabotage", "Triple Patty Deluxe in One Bite", and "I'm Cool", but there's so many they left out. What about "MOAR KRABS"?
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Looking at early Spongebob, there was a lot of top notch talent there.
Shanghaied was written by C.H. Greenblatt, Aaron Springer, and Merriwether Williams. It's no wonder it's so well liked and so good. They all went on to do a lot of really good things after, too.
I rewatched Shanghaied non-stop when I was young. My brother and I used to recite the episode together. I'm sure I could still quote most of the episode even now.
What do you guys think is the worst classic episode?
I've said it before, and I'll say it again: "Ugh" is my least favorite pre-movie Spongebob episode. It is 22 minutes of obnoxious grunting and repetitive behavior that gets tiring quick and annoying fast. The basic concept of the episode and it's story was okay, but the execution was wholly lacking. Just a hard episode to sit through for me these days.
"I'm With Stupid" is not a bad episode (it's actually quite funny), but it does begin to grate by the end.
I never liked Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy II. The Dirty Bubble's appearance at the end was funny, but he was only on screen for about a minute. The rest of the episode was just never that funny to me. I feel like the writers didn't yet know how to carry an entire episode with the two superheroes. Particularly, at the beginning when they are on television, it feels like the writers are trying too hard to make them funny.
For me, next would probably be Jellyfish Jam. It's not bad but I always forget that it even exists. For 3rd worst, I suppose I'll go with Ugh, although I don't dislike it. As for I'm With Stupid, I think it's really funny. How does it grate, Spark?
By the way, I remember hearing about a plot hole in Band Geeks... yeah, a "story hole" in a SpongeBob episode.
At the beginning of the episode, Squilliam says about playing at the football game "I'm busy next week and can't made it, so I was hoping you and your band could cover for me". People have said that it ends up being a major plot hole that he does attend at the end.
... Now, am I the only one who thought Squilliam was lying when he said he couldn't make it? I mean, after Squidward asks why he's there at the end, he even says "I just wanted to watch you blow it". Sounds like he could have had his band play, but decided to embarrass Squidward and have him play instead (which of course backfired as Squidward was successful). I mean, why else would he have called Squidward, of all people, unless he had some malicious intent?
Of course he was lying. Squilliam is a jerk.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on September 18, 2014, 04:33:13 PMAs for I'm With Stupid, I think it's really funny. How does it grate, Spark?
The constant "Spongebob, you're so dumb-no no don't convince me otherwise" fills up the entirety of the back half of the segment. Thankfully, the ending is really clever, but the whole Patrick and his "parents" insulting Spongebob's intelligence schtick got old fast.
Like this is even a question. "Ugh" is easily the worst pre-movie SB episode. Other than that, I'm generally not a fan of:
-The Great Snail Race: SpongeBob is completely unlikable here. The only redeeming factor is the brick joke involving Sandy punching SB at the end of the episode for what he said earlier. "That's for yesterday, SquarePants!" Oh, and the timing on the crowd cheering Gary crashing.
-Mermaid Man and Barnacle Boy IV and V: Not as good as III.
-My Pretty Seahorse: Meh plot, though I do like the running gags of Patrick with the board on his head, and the onions making Squidward cry. "Would you get out of here?!"
-Frankendoodle: Not a "bad" episode per se, just not one of my favorites.
-The Sponge Who Could Fly: Didn't live up to the hype. Ironically, the live action segments were better than the cartoon. Watching Patchy the Pirate trash his room because the lost SB episode was a cheap walk cycle was classic.
I do think The Sponge Who Could Fly is one of the lower tier episodes, though largely for opposite reasons you listed. For me, the Patchy segments just go for too long. That's a reaccuring problem that I also have with SpongeBob's House Party. This might be why Christmas Who? is the best double length episode. In that episode, Patchy doesn't have much screen time.
But anyway, as for The Sponge Who Could Fly, I do like the songs. But those, along with the Patchy filler, just feel like they are trying to fill up space for an episode that otherwise isn't good enough.
My Pretty Seahorse might have a boring plot, but the jokes are hilarious. The karma line from Squidward and the resulting explosion is one of my favorite moments in the entire show's run. Not to mention there's a lot of really good lines in the episode.
"Mystery, you ate my hat. Mystery, you ate my spatula! You ate all the Krabby Patties! You ate the stove! You ate old man Jenkins!"
"I don't want to be a burden."
"Folks, we have a minor situation going on in the kitchen."
"Where's our food?"
"I'm so hungry!"
"This is my only lunch hour!"
"Where's Old Man Jenkins!?"
"Why must every eleven minutes of my life be filled with misery?"
"She seems mysterious, so I'll call her Mystery. Come to think of it, she also seems graceful and majestic. Maybe I should call her Grace, or Majesty, or Debbie."
"What was that?"
"I was just doing my impression of Mystery. Wee-snaw."
"Well, keep working on it. That was terrible."
"Why don't you ask CowBob RanchPants and his faithful companion Sir Eats-A-Lot?"
"SpongeBob, what's the meaning of all these nicknames?"
My Pretty Seahorse is a good one, but I think it's overshadowed by its partner episode, Club SpongeBob. However, it has a phenomenal moment at the end.
"Well, what are you waiting for? Can't you see I don't want you anymore? Just get out of here, you stupid, dumb animal."
(Unbeknownst to SpongeBob, Mystery has already left and Patrick stands in her place. Upon these words, he also walks off into the wilderness.)
Quote from: talonmalon333 on September 19, 2014, 12:41:54 PM"Well, what are you waiting for? Can't you see I don't want you anymore? Just get out of here, you stupid, dumb animal."
(Unbeknownst to SpongeBob, Mystery has already left and Patrick stands in her place. Upon these words, he also walks off into the wilderness.)
That is indeed a great moment.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 18, 2014, 11:13:12 PM
Of course he was lying. Squilliam is a jerk.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on September 18, 2014, 04:33:13 PMAs for I'm With Stupid, I think it's really funny. How does it grate, Spark?
The constant "Spongebob, you're so dumb-no no don't convince me otherwise" fills up the entirety of the back half of the segment. Thankfully, the ending is really clever, but the whole Patrick and his "parents" insulting Spongebob's intelligence schtick got old fast.
At the very least, I don't think it was particularly mean spirited. I mean, Patrick was picking on him, but really, the joke was on Patrick.
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Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 18, 2014, 11:13:12 PM
Of course he was lying. Squilliam is a jerk.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on September 18, 2014, 04:33:13 PMAs for I'm With Stupid, I think it's really funny. How does it grate, Spark?
The constant "Spongebob, you're so dumb-no no don't convince me otherwise" fills up the entirety of the back half of the segment. Thankfully, the ending is really clever, but the whole Patrick and his "parents" insulting Spongebob's intelligence schtick got old fast.
At the very least, I don't think it was particularly mean spirited. I mean, Patrick was picking on him, but really, the joke was on Patrick.
Pretty much, but it was the same joke repeated for like 3 minutes.
At the same time, I like how you can sort of pinpoint the moment when Patrick probably remembered that SpongeBob's stupidity was just an act. When his dad is talking about how much he can see how Patrick has grown at the end (right before the twist), Patrick suddenly has this look that says "Oh wait...".
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 19, 2014, 12:13:44 PM
"Why must every eleven minutes of my life be filled with misery?"
I just noticed this quote in your post. I'm pretty sure that's Club SpongeBob, not My Pretty Seahorse. :P
What do you guys think of the SpongeBob movie?
I enjoy it. So according to Richard Roeper, I must be on drugs. :wth:
Gene Siskel also said that Mark Hamill was a bad Joker. Even the best critics have some off days.
Good thing there aren't loads of people taking that Siskel opinion as if it were a truth.
As for the SpongeBob movie, I was never sure how I felt about the "just kids" theme that runs throughout the movie. I mean, it was never really a big thing in the series.
So I'm trying to think of my ten favorite SpongeBob segments. And I'm not referring to just jokes. I'm referring to stretches (Sweet Victory, SpongeBob and Patrick running through the perfume department, etc.), generally ranging from one to three minutes. But I want to make sure I don't forget anything. So before I make a list, I'd like to ask you guys, what are your personal favorite segments in SpongeBob?
Come on, Sponge fans. :thinkin:
Quote from: talonmalon333 on September 24, 2014, 09:59:10 PM
what are your personal favorite segments in SpongeBob?
Squidward's Suicide.
Not sure if this is exactly what you're referring to, but:
-Sandy commanding the town to search for SpongeBob in "Pre-Hibernation Week". ("This is a load of barnacles..." "I heard that!")
-SpongeBob's bad stand-up in "Squirrel Jokes". ("Didja ever notice how... forks..." "Forks?! Come on!")
-Squidward at first ecstatic to live in Squidville but gradually getting more and more depressed.
-The townspeople running away from the harmless butterfly in "Wormy"
-SpongeBob testing the bus in "Rock Bottom"
-SpongeBob's declaration that he wants to stay a kid and his various ways of crying in "Grandma's Kisses"
-Patrick coming home late many times in "Rock-a-Bye Bivalve" (Uhhhhhh)
-SB, Patrick, Krabs, and Squidward teasing Sandy over her lack of fish skills in "Pressure"
Quote from: Speedy on September 26, 2014, 09:12:36 AM
-SpongeBob's declaration that he wants to stay a kid and his various ways of crying in "Grandma's Kisses"
Whenever people complain about the message in the movie that "We're just kids", when people say that SpongeBob was never a kid, I feel the need to direct them to this episode.
What do you guys think of the holiday episodes (Scaredy Pants, Valentine's Day, Fools in April, and Christmas Who?)?
The holiday episodes? They're good...wouldn't say most of them were necessarily special, though. "Christmas Who" is easily the best one and the one that feels most like an "event episode," but even it feels like just an average classic Spongebob ep rather than a really standout one.
Quote from: Cartoon X on September 30, 2014, 02:34:15 PM
The holiday episodes? They're good...wouldn't say most of them were necessarily special, though. "Christmas Who" is easily the best one and the one that feels most like an "event episode," but even it feels like just an average classic Spongebob ep rather than a really standout one.
I'd say it was more than average. There was a lot of heart put into it, and I thought it was very funny. Plus I like the song. If I made a top 20 episode list, I would honestly include it. But I have to say, in my opinion, Valentine's Day is right behind it and is probably the funniest holiday episode (Christmas Who? is just a really nice episode). So many great quotes.
"A handshake? You got me a handshake?"
"Patrick needs love, too!"
"Attention everyone! There's a fat, pink starfish on the loose!"
"Heart on stick must die!"
"You must all think I'm pretty dumb, don't you?"
"Yes! Turn around!"
And then there's Patrick's miserable expression.
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I honestly think it's one of the best season 1 episodes, if not
the best.
Scaredy Pants and Fools in April are good but I think they fall more in line when your opinions. They're good and nice to watch at their appropriate times of the year, but not amazing stand alone episodes.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on September 16, 2014, 07:53:44 PM
By the way, I really like the Christmas special, Christmas Who?. However, even though this was a joke I once loved, I can't say how much I actually like it now, knowing that it was taken directly from Ren & Stimpy.
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I just don't know. Nickelodeon in the past has recycled ideas and types of jokes. But this one in particular felt a bit insincere to me. Almost as if they just stuck it in there in the hopes that people would think they came up with it.
For those that need a reminder, in this moment of Christmas Who?, Squidward starts teasing SpongeBob because Santa never came to Bikini Bottom. SpongeBob is upset but gives Squidward a Christmas present anyway. When Squidward sees the gift, feeling ashamed, he says "I feel like a... I feel like a...", then, this image of a donkey fades in along with the sound of a donkey call. This exact same joke was used in Ren & Stimpy, though in that show it was a little less... safe. Instead of showing a donkey, it showed... well, just think of the obvious implications of what the donkey means. That's what appears in Ren & Stimpy.
Other things were "lifted" from Ren and Stimpy, notably the detailed close ups of characters faces(such as Squidward's "does this look unsure to you?" face and Mr. Krabs' getting old/multiple chins face) and of course the dependence on stock music, much of which appeared in R&S prior to appearing in Spongebob.
Also that particular joke harkens back to the old Warner Bros. cartoons such as Falling Hare, where a character would take the appearance of a donkey, except in those jokes the actual word "jackass" was used.
Quote from: Comeau on September 30, 2014, 04:32:21 PM
Other things were "lifted" from Ren and Stimpy, notably the detailed close ups of characters faces(such as Squidward's "does this look unsure to you?" face and Mr. Krabs' getting old/multiple chins face) and of course the dependence on stock music, much of which appeared in R&S prior to appearing in Spongebob.
Right, but those are more like influences. The donkey is the only joke I can think of that was taken directly from R&S and reused in SpongeBob.
Something that hasn't been taken note of in this thread: The animation in SpongeBob is great.
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Then there are those painted shots, which are reminiscent of Ren & Stimpy.
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There is also the episode Nasty Patty, and from that episode I could pull dozens of good looking pictures, thanks to the muted colors, the lightning, and the usage of shadows.
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I've always felt the animation took a bit of a nosedive after the movie.
"Nasty Patty" is indeed a gorgeous episode, particularly after the health inspector "croaks". Those sickly green color choices are just fantastic, and something you don't see in every episode.
Quote from: Speedy on October 07, 2014, 09:17:57 AM
"Nasty Patty" is indeed a gorgeous episode, particularly after the health inspector "croaks". Those sickly green color choices are just fantastic, and something you don't see in every episode.
Yeah. The first half of the episode, before they think he's dead, looks pretty normal. But once they decide to bury him, that's when the art gets great. You put it alongside any other episode, and it sticks out so much in a beautiful way.
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There are some great looking episodes in the series, such as Graveyard Shift, SpongeBob Meets the Strangler, and The Camping Episode. But Nasty Patty might be the best looking.
I really do miss the finer detail that they put into the older episodes. Modern SpongeBob seems to have taken on many common techniques with modern animation, which streamlines the look but loses some of that extra detail. It might be more polished now, but polish really isn't what it's all about. Ren & Stimpy wasn't the most polished show, but artistically it easily surpasses any Nicktoon that came out after it.
Quote from: Comeau on September 30, 2014, 04:32:21 PM
Also that particular joke harkens back to the old Warner Bros. cartoons such as Falling Hare, where a character would take the appearance of a donkey, except in those jokes the actual word "jackass" was used.
I only just noticed this part of the post. You might've edited it in after I responded to the other part of your post. But yeah, that does kind of change the story. :P
It's funny how, in this case, Ren & Stimpy looks like the safer cartoon. Not something you see very often.
You know (and on the topic of animation) seeing the characters as goofy superheroes in the next movie was a bit cringe worthy for a first impression. But I have to say, the characters in their regular forms look pretty good.
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That's entirely CGI, but it almost looks like they were made out of clay. It at least looks better than many other movies, like Alvin and the Chipmunks, where the CGI cartoon characters just look weird.
the spongebob movie is easily my favorite nick movie. but then again it's probably the only non-live action one i've seen in it's entirety.
Are there any other good Nick movies?
The first 2 Rugrats movies aren't bad. And The Wild Thornberrys Movie is pretty enjoyable despite its source material.
I don't have any memory of Rugrats in Paris (only saw it once, in theaters). I can't say I liked the first movie, though.
i like harriet the spy, matilda and good burger. that's all i got.
Matilda wasn't a Nickelodeon movie. But Good Burger's pretty cute, depending on your tolerance of Ed, and I did like Harriet the Spy when it came out.
i suspected as much. good burger is my favorite out of the two.
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Don't you love that modern SpongeBob goofiness? Isn't it so funny?
Hillenburg returns to the show. (http://www.cartoonbrew.com/tv/spongebob-creator-stephen-hillenburg-returning-to-his-show-106935.html)
is there any hope?
If that happens, I doubt it'll help much. They lost a lot more than Hillenburg after the good era.
you mean other key staff members?
Quote from: gunswordfist on December 14, 2014, 01:49:26 PM
you mean other key staff members?
Yep. A lot of the old writers are gone.
It sounds like the new SpongeBob movie has been generally well received, but a lot of people seem to be in agreement that the first movie was better. Many also say the CG isn't as good as the traditional animation.
Is there anyone here that was kind of hoping it wouldn't perform well in the box office, just to bring the series closer to cancellation? :light:
i am close to thinking that...
Chances of that aren't so good. I have a feeling they got Hillenburg to try and take advantage of the extra attention they're likely to get from the movie.
If the movie is indeed good, I'll probably try and catch it if I find the opportunity. There hasn't been anything good Spongebob-related in a while, after all.
QuoteWhile not committing to a sequel Sunday, she called it "a good bet," and said that Nickolodeon deserves a lot of credit for how it has managed the SpongeBob brand.
http://www.thewrap.com/spongebob-soaks-up-55-million-to-swamp-jupiter-ascending-seventh-son-at-box-office/
SpongeBob is never going to end. Audiences will be talking about it and The Simpsons in the year 4037.
It's too entrenched into popular culture to ever disappear out of public consciousness at this point no matter how mediocre it's been for the last ten years. I'm not surprised the film did as well as it did on it's opening weekend either.
True, but it has to end at some point. I think some people were figuring/hoping that would be in the next few years. At this point, I think it could easily get another movie and see its 20 year anniversary.
Even if the show ends in a few years, I'd fully expect to see a rebooted version to come out only a few years after or other content based around it regularly produced. Like Scooby Doo and similar popular cartoon franchises, it'll never go away.
And it's a shame because only 4-5 of those 20+ years will have been any good, unless the show miraculously goes uphill.
It might, if Hillenburg knows what he's doing when he goes back.
But yeah, Spongebob will not go the way of Rugrats. That was another property they let fall into obscurity because they could afford to let it. They can't do that again.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 12, 2015, 03:06:08 PM
It might, if Hillenburg knows what he's doing when he goes back.
But yeah, Spongebob will not go the way of Rugrats. That was another property they let fall into obscurity because they could afford to let it. They can't do that again.
SpongeBob also reached a level of success that Rugrats couldn't touch.
As for Hillenburg, he did say he's coming back but we don't know what he's going to be doing. It's also worth nothing that, even if he's back, most of the original writers still aren't. He could possibly bring some life back to the series, but I'm not convinced SpongeBob will get good again. But I do think that Nickelodeon is still comfortable with SpongeBob.
you just had to bring up scooby...ugh. i hope sb does not get that bad.
edit: and i have no faith in sbsp being great again. the show is so bad that it has made me spontaneously nervous whenever newer episodes of shows from, from king of the hill to futurama to king of queens, lol
So, I saw the movie. That has got to be the most WTF thing I've seen in a long time. I enjoyed it immensely.
I guess that would by default make it better than most of the recent episodes.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 02, 2015, 01:09:36 PM
I guess that would by default make it better than most of the recent episodes.
Likely "all". :P
It most certainly is. I honestly think I like it as much as the first movie. Also think it's funnier, actually.
Sounds interesting. Maybe it'll help breath new life into the show, too.
It needs it.
Thought I mention this. I did a SpongeBob Comic for the April issue. It's one page, likely to appear in the back cover.
Anyway, it's gonna be in this issue. (http://www.tfaw.com/Comics/Profile/Spongebob-Comics-43___473914)
Cool, man! I'll keep an eye out for it. :)
Congrats!
Cool, I think my local comic shop sells Spongebob comics so I might pick this up.
Congratulations!
"SpongeBob Comics" #43 comes out this Wednesday. I'm pointing this out because I have a one page comic with SpongeBob and Squidward appearing in the back pages.
This is my first time professionally drawing a comic based on a licensed cartoon, so I'm pretty stoked about it.
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That's awesome, man! I'll see if I can pick up a copy. :joy:
Congrats, man!
I'll also try to grab a copy if I can find one.
Sounds cool.
Great job, man! I'll try and pick up a copy the next time I'm at the bookstore. :thumbup:
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Nicely done!
Awesome work, dude!
It must feel great to have your hard work officially published. :thumbup:
that made me giggle.
Ace comic, man! I hope to see more works of yours get published in similar publications in the future! :e_hail:
Well set up joke! I laughed. :D
Thanks! Yeah, I can't believe it either.
I don't know about you guys, but I had the second movie available on Netflix here so I watched it.
Pretty good. You can tell Hillenburg and Tibbitt came up with the story, and Tibbitt did a great job directing it. It was certainly the best thing to come out of this show since season 4. Definitely preferrable than whatever season 10 would have ended up being. Now I'm interested in seeing what Hillenburg's return to the show will entail.
The previews for the movie were pretty misleading, though. There's like only 20 minutes of the characters in CG in the whole film and it's pretty much only encapsulated in the climax. That means the ads told you pretty much zero about what the story actually consists of.
Yeah, I heard the movie was surprisingly good and nothing like the trailer. Doesn't really surprise me... well, the "being good" part does. :il_hahaha:
I was surprised at its quality until I saw Hillenburg and Tibbitt came up with the story and Tibbitt directed it. They were both in charge in the old days, which is probably why it feels so much better than the recent stuff.
The story is fairly insane, though, but in that good old school Spongebob way.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 12, 2015, 01:07:39 PM
The previews for the movie were pretty misleading, though. There's like only 20 minutes of the characters in CG in the whole film and it's pretty much only encapsulated in the climax. That means the ads told you pretty much zero about what the story actually consists of.
:SHOCK: Wuh, really?! I need to actually watch this film now.
So Plankton gets the formula legitimately in "Single Cell Anniversary" and still Spongebob destroys Karen so that he can't get it and use it? They got the formula fair and square, legally, without dishonesty or stealing, and yet he is treated as the bad guy? Man, some of these newer episodes just have no thought put into them. It's not as stupid as suicidal Squidward not having a happiest memory, but is still a lame plot.
:o Senseless shit like that just makes me want to watch the episode even more.
Squidward's VA arrested. (http://www.cinemablend.com/television/SpongeBob-Could-Lose-Its-Squidward-He-Was-Arrested-112747.html)
The single worst aspect of this show is the cops. They're not funny, like ever. Everything involving them is a lazy joke and half-cooked gag that anyone can see miles away.
Get it? They're bad at their job so they're arresting people who didn't do anything! Get it? They're jerks so they're harassing someone who didn't do anything! Get it? They're stupid so they ignore anyone who needs help! It's funny! You should be laughing!
That's literally all they do. The jokes write themselves.
Have them arrest Rodger Bumpass.
Stephen Hillenburg has been diagnosed with ALS. (http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/spongebob-squarepants-creator-stephen-hillenburg-reveals-als-diagnosis-1202007865)
I don't know how to process this. It's crazy to think that Hillenburg, the man who created arguably the most popular animated show of the last 20 years, might only have a few years left to live. I can only wish him and his family the best.
RIP. (https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/spongebob-squarepants-creator-dead-dies-stephen-hillenburg-1203037362/)
Man, that's rough. :'( R.I.P.
RIP for sure. He seemed like a good guy, and ALS is not an easy way to go.
Shortly after Hillenburg's death, a Change.org petition was launched to play "Sweet Victory" at the Super Bowl. It received over 900k signatures. (https://www.change.org/p/nfl-have-sweet-victory-performed-at-the-super-bowl)
And now the Mercedes-Benz Stadium has Tweeted this... (https://twitter.com/MBStadium/status/1072971820138225666)
It'd do better for the ratings than Maroon 5, that's for sure.
You had one job, NFL. :srs:
Sadly, they thought a five second clip would be enough. :imnothappy:
Meanwhile, the NHL did it right.
https://twitter.com/DallasStars/status/1092455235555971073
They'll never stop Spongebob. Have no fears. We've got stories for years. (https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/nickelodeon-brian-robbins-spongebob-lego-paddington-john-cena-1203139534/)
Saw John Cena mention it on Twitter as well. Man, can't wait to see the man, the myth, the legend voicing a character on Spongebob.
SpongeBob is getting spin-offs. Wasn't that what ended up killing Rugrats, Nick's previous cash cow?
At least Robbins acknowledged that they got themselves in the mess they're in by concentrating too much on SpongeBob and not having enough variety. Some of the other shows sound interesting at least. What will really be the test is which shows stay a while and which ones get canceled.
As to why it took this long to make Spongebob spinoffs, I came across the grim speculation that Nick was waiting for Stephen Hillenburg to die so he wouldn't be around to complain about such a decision.
Who's even going to watch them?
Quote from: Avaitor on February 20, 2019, 11:42:43 AM
Who's even going to watch them?
More kids watched some random Nickelodeon movie than the Steven Universe finale, so somebody's going to. I notice there are so many Nick shows that do better in the ratings than Disney and CN's despite having tiny footprints on social media. So I just assume more kids choose Nickelodeon as their background noise while doing something else.
R.I.P. Tim Conway (https://people.com/tv/tim-conway-dies)
It's getting a CG-animated prequel. (https://deadline.com/2019/06/spongebob-squarepants-cg-animated-prequel-series-kamp-koral-greenlighted-nickelodeon-1202626441)
And a former Spongebob showrunner is pissed. (https://twitter.com/paultibbitt/status/1136035312113553408)
Of course once Hillenburg kicked the bucket the new heads of Nick would see it as a greenlight to use every trick in the book to keep Spongebob as their main cash cow. Too bad for them, others at Nick pulled this with their previous one Rugrats and we all saw how well that turned out! :thumbup:
:lol:
Nick's current approach makes no sense. They clearly want to appeal to both the nostalgia market and the kids market, but they're doing it in a way that alienates both. Stuff like the Hey Arnold movie or that Legends of the Hidden Temple movie didn't make big splashes in the ratings because it required the kid demographic to care about shows that aired before they were born. The Jungle Movie especially expects you to have recently seen episodes of Hey Arnold for the plot to make sense. Meanwhile, any teenagers/adults who turn on Nick because they found out their favorite shows came back will probably roll their eyes at a CGI Spongebob prequel, a show dedicated to that Baby Shark song (https://twitter.com/DEADLINE/status/1136258892181073922), and a toddler unboxing show (https://youtu.be/fSwtoLBox9o). Both moves cancel out the other. You're just making shows that adults will like, but will confuse kids. And shows that kids will like, but will annoy adults. All while airing them at the same time (that unboxing show airs on regular Nick times instead of just Nick Jr). I looked at Nickelodeon's Twitter the other day, and almost all of it is nostalgia baiting. "Do you remember this show? Do you remember that show?" But when they tweet about one of their current shows like Henry Danger, the mentions they get are so apathetic because the nostalgia audience they're pandering to doesn't give a shit about Nick shows they didn't grow up on. I don't get their business strategy.
And I don't think the execs get it either. Brian Robbins confusingly said Spongebob was Nick's Marvel Cinematic Universe. (https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900055755/spongebob-spinoffs-are-coming-to-nickelodeon-here-are-the-other-new-shows-the-network-has-planned-spongebob-spinoff-all-that-reboot-paddington-tv-show-are-you-smarter-than-a-fifth-grader-john-cena.html) When has Spongebob ever been a show with hundreds of main characters that you can make any story out of? It's not a flexible enough universe that you can make dozens of spin-offs for.
Making Spongebob spinoffs makes me particularly salty because Hillenburg was flat out opposed to them and they didn't even wait half a year past his death to greenlight one. That's so disrespectful and heartless. But yeah, they need to come up with a more cohesive programming and marketing strategy and figure out how to package their shows in ways that reach their intended audiences more successfully, because the current approach of trying to have it both ways muddles what Nick's identity as a network is. While I'm never ever going to watch the Baby Shark or Toddler unboxing show, I think it'd be a better investment for them to focus on new projects like those than trying to live in the past and win back an audience that has outgrown them.
I don't think either of those are better investments because they're not new IPs Nick came up with, but shit they found online that happened to be popular with children. And we all know how that worked out when they last tried that with Fred. That seems to be another problem with Nick. All of the new series they've announced recently are either revivals of old IPs or digging up shit they found on youtube, while brand new shows like Glitch Techs are utterly neglected.
Yeah, I'd rather have Nick at least make more original content than pick up crap they didn't make. Back in the day, they were against toy-pandering shows like TMNT and Power Rangers, but focusing on those and Jojo Siwa are taking away their identity, and are continuing to make Nickelodeon seem like any other channel.
While I'm happy about the movies for Arnold, Rocko, and Zim, I'd rather that they try to make shows of their kind instead, and not abandon them after a few months if they're not beating SpongeBob. I'd definitely rather get a new Avatar-like than another Avatarverse show.
But at the same time, I don't think that reviving some of their properties is a bad idea, either. Besides Disney's success with Girl Meets World and NuTales, apparently the new Double Dare is a hit, for instance, and I can see the new Blue's Clues also catch on. And while they're focusing heavily on promoting Kel, Lori Beth, and Josh on the new All That, I think the show could work with today's kids when the new crop get their time to shine. But these should be the exception, not the rule.
I remember Poparena said something about this on his Nick Knacks series. How shows like Mr. Wizard's World were made because people like Mr. Wizard were popular when the network executives were kids, and they assumed what they liked/watched as kids would appeal to kids during the 80s. But for every Mr. Wizard's World that made the pass, there were several Nick acquisitions that have so little impact that Pop had to speculate on what the shows were like due to little to no existing footage. But from the stuff he could gather of Nick's early programming, it feels so similar to what we're getting now. Like Nick airing Flash Gordon serials because the Flash Gordon movie had just come out. Or airing Tomorrow People because PBS was airing Doctor Who at the time. Then look at today, where Nick is giving shows to Youtubers and making series adaptations of Paddington and Star Trek. Doomed to repeat your history.
I should've clarified that I'd much prefer if they made high-quality original IPs along the lines of what Avaitor suggests than the shows based on internet memes. :sweat:
I also don't mind a revival special here and there, but making a new Rugrats show and a live-action movie with the babies as CG characters are the kind of misguided projects I'm wouldn't want to see more of...
Quote from: LumRanmaYasha on June 07, 2019, 10:55:17 PM
I also don't mind a revival special here and there, but making a new Rugrats show and a live-action movie with the babies as CG characters are the kind of misguided projects I'm wouldn't want to see more of...
Especially when oversaturating the market with Rugrats spinoffs and movies was what killed the franchise in the first place. How would doing it again be better this time?
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on June 07, 2019, 11:01:03 PM
Quote from: LumRanmaYasha on June 07, 2019, 10:55:17 PM
I also don't mind a revival special here and there, but making a new Rugrats show and a live-action movie with the babies as CG characters are the kind of misguided projects I'm wouldn't want to see more of...
Especially when oversaturating the market with Rugrats spinoffs and movies was what killed the franchise in the first place. How would doing it again be better this time?
Paul Germaine is back, so that could be cool.
But it also sounds like he wants to overcorrect things, by going back to the original run and writing out Dil and Kimmy. I doubt Nick would approve of that, and while I'm not the biggest fan of either character, I don't even know if that's the right way to go.
Wouldn't writing out Kimmy though write out Chuckie's new mom as well? I suppose you could say she was a mom with no kids in this new recreation but still... that's kinda messed up to consider fiddling with that.
And if Germain's only keeping the part of the show he worked on, that means erasing everything from season 4 onward, including episodes like Mother's Day.
So, Nicktoons was planning to air every episode of the show in a giant marathon to celebrate its 20th anniversary.
Then they just abruptly cancelled the marathon this morning. (https://twitter.com/nickandmore/status/1149286418923040768) Oops.
I haven't watched either, but this and the Nick Rewind downsizing are pretty abrupt changes. And ones I don't understand. Who gives enough of a shit about Made or Parental Control to see repeats of those shows? Along with AwesomenessTV shows people can find on Youtube instead? Nick's rarely known what to do with their spinoff networks. They were almost always dumping grounds for old shows with an occasional original series sprinkled in to give the illusion that kids weren't just watching nothing but reruns, but they can't even do that anymore.
Squidward is getting a spinoff on Netflix. (https://www.theverge.com/2019/11/13/20963816/spongebob-squarepants-spinoff-netflix-nickelodeon-deal-disney-streaming)
Anybody want a Spongebob anime? (https://youtu.be/TBO9ANTBCjM)