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Eleven films, eleven hits. Not all of them are great in this man's opinion, but none of them are anywhere close to a bomb and each have a pretty dedicated fanbase. That takes insane talent.

If I was to rank my favorites, my list would probably look like

1- Wall*E
2- The Incredibles
3- Toy Story 3
4- Up
5- Monster's Inc
6- Toy Story
7- Toy Story 2
8- A Bug's Life
9- Ratatouille
10- Finding Nemo
11- Cars

That's probably close to mine, though I think I'd put Up over The Incredibles. Something about that one just clicked so well for me.

Sure, I'll fill out a list of how I rank them:

1. Up
2. Wall*E
3. Toy Story 3
4. Monster's Inc
5. The Incredibles
6. Toy Story
7. Cars
8. Ratatoullie
9. Toy Story 2
10. Finding Nemo
11. Bugs Life

1. Up
2. Monsters INC.
3. Toy Story 3
4. Wall*E
5. A Bug's Life
6. Toy Story
7. Toy Story 2
8. Ratatouille
9. Finding Nemo
10. The Incredibles
11. Cars

None of their films were, IMO, downright bad, EXCEPT for Cars, which aside from the fact that it had the talented Paul Newman voice acting in it, the actual movie itself was an uninspired piece of shit.

I also have to say that I find numbers 8-10 on my list to be kind of overrated. They each certainly have their own merits to them, but none of them really entertained me all that much, to be honest.

I'm not the biggest fan of Toy Story, but the first 2 movies were generally good films, and I have to admit that I was impressed by how much I liked the 3rd film (there was something about it that I could really connect with, which was a quality that wasn't exactly in the first 2 films for me).

I re-watched A Bug's Life not too long ago, and while its undeniably Pixar's most shallow film, I still honestly found it to be extremely entertaining.

Wall*E had an amazing first half, but its 2nd half dragged it down a bit for me, but only just a bit.

I don't know what it is, but there's something about Monsters INC.'s humor that just works so well that I can never tire of that movie. The voice-acting just nails the jokes better than any other Pixar film that I have seen, and the whole genuine premise of the movie, while not original, is well-done, and its simply just entertaining from beginning to end, and it doesn't ruin its pacing or mood by getting overly-wrapped up in trying to tell a more complex story than what it really is, which is a problem that I've found with certain other Pixar films.

Up is a movie that just truly impressed me on every level. It has that classic adventure style plot of exploring the unknown that just draws me in, and it perfectly combines a fun story-line with some fairly deep dramatic undertones. Its also just plain fun from start to finish, and is easily my favorite film from Pixar, so far.

I've yet to see Wall-E and Toy Story 3.

If it's a few Pixar films I like, I going with...

Toy Story
Toy Story 2
Monsters, Inc.
Finding Nemo
Cars

There's no fighting it, I just plain love Pixar films, no offense.  :sly:

If you ask me, really, nothing comes close to the Toy Story series. I truly see it as the heart of Pixar. So which is my favorite? It would honestly have to be Toy Story 3. And that's funny cause, going into it, I had the mindset that "As long as it's good, I'll be satisfied cause I strongly doubt it'll top either of the first two". I seriously never imagined it'd be as good as it was.

Quote from: talonmalon333 on December 28, 2010, 12:11:37 AM
If you ask me, really, nothing comes close to the Toy Story series. I truly see it as the heart of Pixar. So which is my favorite? It would honestly have to be Toy Story 3. And that's funny cause, going into it, I had the mindset that "As long as it's good, I'll be satisfied cause I strongly doubt it'll top either of the first two". I seriously never imagined it'd be as good as it was.

By the way Talon, I actually watched Toy Story 3 earlier today. It had so much suspense, thrills, and plot twists, I'd have to agree with you. This is truly the best of the three, thanks for the reccommendation.  :shakeshakeshake:

Quote from: Neomysterion Prime on December 29, 2010, 08:04:27 PM

Quote from: talonmalon333 on December 28, 2010, 12:11:37 AM
If you ask me, really, nothing comes close to the Toy Story series. I truly see it as the heart of Pixar. So which is my favorite? It would honestly have to be Toy Story 3. And that's funny cause, going into it, I had the mindset that "As long as it's good, I'll be satisfied cause I strongly doubt it'll top either of the first two". I seriously never imagined it'd be as good as it was.

By the way Talon, I actually watched Toy Story 3 earlier today. It had so much suspense, thrills, and plot twists, I'd have to agree with you. This is truly the best of the three, thanks for the reccommendation.  :shakeshakeshake:

You're welcome! ;)

I'm glad you liked it as much as I did. What else is funny is that I originally wasn't feeling confident that it would turn out good, though the premise was interesting. It didn't take till the first trailer when I realized that it'll be really good! :)

I've only seen 2. Toy Story was great, Cars was shit.

In case you guys haven't already heard, Toy Story 3 is officially the third animated feature to be nominated for Best Picture.

I'm 95% positive that it won't win, but it's still a great movie and a fine honor for it to hold.

Not 100%?

I am, and I love the movie.

Its not going to win best picture, but it will win best animated picture for certain.

As for me, I've already given my thoughts on the film, but obviously it really shows how great it is when even I find it to be one of Pixar's best films, despite still sticking to my feeling that people overrate the first 2 Toy Story movies (and that's not to say that I don't like or enjoy either of those, but I've already elaborated on how I feel about them as opposed to other Pixar films).

*obligatory 2009 conversation about how Pixar/Animated films shouldn't even be eligible for nomination*

Toy Story 3 was mediocre in every way and shouldn't even win best animated feature.

I can understand not liking Pixar films (I myself am not a big fan of their's, and find most of their works to be overrated, but still enjoyable for what they are) but why exactly should they not be eligible for any awards in animated films? That is to say, what exactly makes them "not" eligible as animation?

I don't know, that's why I objected to the post(btw, those weren't me, but people on another site; sorry if you did think it was me).  But of course, we can't live in a world where people aren't so hateful of Pixar and modern animation in general.

Cars and Toy Story would top my list. Monsters, Inc. would be rather low since it involves the working world,  and that's personally depressing for me.

I really love the movie Wall-E, Cars, Up, Monsters Inc. & Toy Story 1,2 & 3. But my fave from all those is Cars :D

My all time favorite Pixar movies would be Monsters. Inc, Ratatouille, Toy Story 1 & 2(haven't watched the third one yet), WALL-E and The Incredibles :swoon:

http://movies.msn.com/ranking-pixar-movies/photo-gallery/feature/?GT1=31060

Not a bad list, actually. :)

Its a pretty good list. I even agree with The Incredible being ranked lower on the list since IMO that movie is way overrated. That said, I think Ratatouille is ranked too high, personally. To me its probably Pixar's 2nd "worst" film behind Cars (I quoted worst because I don't think the film is bad at all, but just really bland and generic-feeling by Pixar's usual standards). I also found myself agreeing with the Toy Story rankings mainly in terms of the order they were ranked it (rather than their actual spots, which were also pretty agreeable to me, though). While I know so many people love it, I like Toy Story 2 for its more ambitious story, but I also feel that it can feel a bit too slow and muddled at certain parts which kind of hurts its overall enjoyment for me, so its personally my least favorite in the trilogy, but its still a good animated film. The first Toy Story is a more "by the books" sort of story, granted that it will always have the benefit of being the film to start the trilogy with such an interesting concept, but the actual story itself is pretty predictable and kind of plays it safe, but to its credit it does that really well and manages to be a highly enjoyable film even if it lacks more of the depth of the sequels. To me, Toy Story 3 successfully combined the non-stop entertainment value of the 1st film with the depth and more ambitious story elements of the 2nd film, which is why its personally my favorite entry in the trilogy.

As for the rest of the rankings, I can agree with most of them. Personally I'd rank Monsters Inc. a lot higher, and I also still find Up to be my favorite Pixar film to date, but I can also agree with Wall-E taking the number one spot in this case, as well.

Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on June 22, 2011, 08:22:43 PM
As for the rest of the rankings, I can agree with most of them. Personally I'd rank Monsters Inc. a lot higher, and I also still find Up to be my favorite Pixar film to date, but I can also agree with Wall-E taking the number one spot in this case, as well.

Monsters Inc. got a whole lot more awesome for me once I became a Steve Buscemi fan. ;D

Up is definitely my favorite Pixar movie, as well. :)

Quote from: Foggle on June 22, 2011, 08:24:54 PMUp is definitely my favorite Pixar movie, as well. :)

Hell yes.

Quote from: Desensitized on June 22, 2011, 08:31:05 PM

Quote from: Foggle on June 22, 2011, 08:24:54 PMUp is definitely my favorite Pixar movie, as well. :)

Hell yes.

Eeyup.

I need to sit down and rewatch WALL-E and Up. When I saw them the first time, I was hanging out with friends and not really watching, so my memory of both is foggy. But I'm gonna rank the others from favorite to least.

1. Toy Story 3
2. Toy Story
3. Finding Nemo
4. Toy Story 2
5. Monsters Inc.
6. A Bug's Life
7. Ratatouille
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8. The Incredibles
9. Cars

Notice the space separating #'s 8 and 9 from the rest; those are the only movies I actually dislike. Really, I ADORE Pixar, but I do think they can be overrated sometimes... just a little bit.

Looks like there might be a Toy Story 4.

Yes, really.

Quote from: Avaitor on June 27, 2011, 12:23:11 PM
Looks like there might be a Toy Story 4.

Yes, really.

What. No. There can't be. :wth:

Quote from: Avaitor on June 27, 2011, 12:23:11 PM
Looks like there might be a Toy Story 4.

Yes, really.

They have to know better than that. There's nowhere else to go.

Pixar hasn't confirmed it themselves, but Tom Hanks mentioned that they're working on it while doing an interview earlier, and according to Tim Allen right after 3 came out, they were signed up to a fourth. Most believed that the "fourth" was just all the shorts Pixar is making rolled up to part of the contract, but maybe there is more to the story.

Add that to Larry the Cable Guy hinting at Cars 3, and Pixar might be getting into sequel mania harder than we thought.

Just got back from Cars 2. Not a masterpiece, but I thought it was actually good... more then I can say for it's predecessor.

My top 3 in order are Toy Story 3, Finding Nemo and The Incredibles.

My list has changed over time. Even after watching WALL-E again I just don't see what's so great about it. I enjoyed parts of it very much but it's overall just boring. Ratatouille... decent but not what I expected from all the hype.

I loved Cars but don't feel comfortable ranking it over The Incredibles.

Modifying my list since I saw Cars 2 last Monday.

1. Up
2. Wall*E
3. Toy Story 3
4. Monster's Inc
5. The Incredibles
6. Toy Story
7 Cars 2
8. Cars
9. Ratatoullie
10. Toy Story 2
11. Finding Nemo
12. Bugs Life

Yeah, I rank Cars 2 over Cars 1. I thought it had a better story and the spy stuff worked pretty well. My only complaint was how little the racing scenes were in this film, but the spy action and having a new depth to Mater's character was a nice change of pace.

Alright, why not? Here's how I'd probably rank Pixar's films...

01) WALL-E
02) Toy Story 3
03) Toy Story
04) The Incredibles
05) Up
06) Ratatouille
07) Finding Nemo
08) Monsters Inc.
09) Toy Story 2
10) A Bug's Life
11) Cars

WALL-E is just a masterpiece from beginning to end. I have a hard time thinking about anything I don't like in that movie. And while I rank Toy Story 3 above Toy Story, the first one is a better standalone movie as what makes the third film so amazing is the fact that these are the characters we've grown up with going on one last adventure (so long as they don't make Toy Story 4 please god don't let that happen). The Incredibles and Up were both amazing, I had a hard time picking one over the other.

Toy Story 2 may be low on my list, but I still think it's a great movie. I honestly forget almost everything about A Bug's Life, though.

As for Cars, I just saw it for the first time recently, and... I really wasn't impressed. Easily Pixar's weakest movie for me. I mean, it was an alright film and I don't regret watching it, but I just didn't find the story all that interesting or the characters all that appealing. I also have a really hard time getting behind this world of sentient cars. I can accept some crazy stuff in movies and cartoons but a world full of living cars, living like people, is just strange to me.

I'm in no rush to see Cars 2.

I actually found Cars 2 to be enjoyable. Not great, but good. They are both Pixar's worst though.

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Whoa...

The trailer for Brave is up. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TEHWDA_6e3M&feature=player_embedded#!) A legit trailer too, not just a brief teaser like we usually get first.

To be frank, I don't like it.

It looks like HTTYD. Which is... kinda odd.

Quote from: Desensitized on November 16, 2011, 02:22:41 PM
It looks like HTTYD. Which is... kinda odd.

So does that mean we've somehow jumped to the point where Pixar is trying to rip-off Dreamworks?

Preposterous, I say....:thinkin:

Honestly, I don't like the designs at all. I hated the way the main character looked the first time I saw her, and seeing her and the rest of the cast again only confirms my dislike of them. Pixar's always had a weird history with human designs, and this seems a little unnatural, like a weak attempt at going for exact humanism in their characters. I don't know how else to put it, but the designs just don't look right to me.

And the story just seems lame. It's only a trailer, yes, but trailers are meant to draw you in, and so far it looks like a lame attempt at recreating Disney's more recent films. They've already shown a rough draft out to reviewers, and the reception was quite negative, saying that among other things, it's very undeveloped. While I'm sure that they've worked on it since that, I don't think Pixar has it in them to tell a fantasy story.

It's too soon, but I'm really not feeling it yet. I'm hoping that my mind will be changed when I go see the film, but it seems a little too ambitious for the studio.

This is more the type of film Disney itself did and its peak, Pixar has its own style. But I do agree, something about it seems off.

Yeah, I'm not feeling this either. The trailer left me unimpressed.

I'm not wild about Brave either after watching the trailer. Sort of feels like something I would see another animation studio that's trying to become the next Pixar or Dreamworks. In fact, if it wasn't for the reminders that this came from the guys that brought us Up, WALL*E and Finding Nemo, I would have just assumed that this was another studio's output.

I'm still on my major Disney kick, and I just watched Finding Nemo for the first time in years. It holds up a little better than I remember, but it's still not a favorite by any means.

Emotionally, it's very strong. Marlin's anxieties are completely understandable, while Nemo and Dory's dilemmas are about equally likable. I just don't think it's that funny. I only got a couple of laughs overall. Dory still annoys me more than anything, and I think the script is considerably more juvenile than any of Pixar's films up to that point. There's more reliance on gross-out humor and pop culture references than you probably remember, and the puns just aren't that good.

I just don't like it that much. It's not an awful movie, but I think Pixar has done so much better. I can understand why it did so well, since the humor's just right for younger kids and the emotional factor is perfect for adults. But I feel alienated by it in comparison, and would still pick most of Pixar's other works to it.

I think the worst thing about Finding Nemo was that it lead to Shark Tale. I do feel FN itself is a pretty safe movie, though, I agree.

Quote from: Avaitor on January 17, 2012, 07:44:35 PM
I'm still on my major Disney kick, and I just watched Finding Nemo for the first time in years. It holds up a little better than I remember, but it's still not a favorite by any means.

Emotionally, it's very strong. Marlin's anxieties are completely understandable, while Nemo and Dory's dilemmas are about equally likable. I just don't think it's that funny. I only got a couple of laughs overall. Dory still annoys me more than anything, and I think the script is considerably more juvenile than any of Pixar's films up to that point. There's more reliance on gross-out humor and pop culture references than you probably remember, and the puns just aren't that good.

I just don't like it that much. It's not an awful movie, but I think Pixar has done so much better. I can understand why it did so well, since the humor's just right for younger kids and the emotional factor is perfect for adults. But I feel alienated by it in comparison, and would still pick most of Pixar's other works to it.

Understandable. I agree that things like the gross-out humor is dumb. But other than that, I really like the movie. Alongside WALL-E, it's my favorite non-Toy Story Pixar film. I enjoyed most of the other humor, and the characters as well. It's got a cute story, too. And maybe this is mostly my love for the ocean talking, but I just adore the atmosphere, which is only aided by the wonderful animation (much more impression than Shark Tale's if you compare the two). Technically, WALL-E is has the most impressive animation for Pixar. However, I prefer the look of Finding Nemo.

Oh, the animation is top-notch. I forgot to mention that, but I always felt that away about Nemo. The water effects are out of this world.

I thought I wrote a piece about Finding Nemo here, but it doesn't appear to be in this thread. Perhaps somewhere else on AR?

...anyway, I'm too tired and lazy to look for it right now, but basically, I just said that I never understood why the internet grew to hate this movie so much as time went on. Often times I'd see words tossed around like "awful", "uninspired", even "shit" and other things of that ilk to describe it, and I don't get it. I mean, yeah, compared to Toy Story or Monsters Inc. or what have you it is a bit of a step down, but by no means was this a bad movie. Even if it is does skew to a younger audience more than the average Pixar flick, I still find a lot of enjoyment when watching it today (seen it a few months ago, as a matter of fact; holds up quite nicely).

Uh... yeah. Way to go Pixar. (http://www.pixarportal.com/blog.php?id=class-action-lawsuit-filed-against-pixar-and-other-tech-companies)

Before I head off, I just want to say that after seeing the new trailer for Brave, I have quite a bit more hope for it. It looks a lot better than the earlier ones did.

I saw the new trailer for Brave in front of Avengers. First time seeing it and the story is better presented in this one than the past trailers.

Brave is Pixar's first animated feature with a female lead. Yeah, the main character is another rebellious princess, but her mother is alive and well, so that's already a change of pace for Disney.

Yeah, I saw the trailer too. It was much better than the first one.

Once again Pixar's early trailer makes their film look less than it actually is.

Oh, this reminds me, you know what I thought was interesting with the trailer? You know how in every Pixar trailer, they say that it's from the makers of... and list 2 or 3 of their movies, and one of them is always their most recent one? For Brave, it stated  "From the makers of Wall*E, Toy Story 3, and Up".

Shows how bad Cars 2 is if they wouldn't even acknowledge it here.

Yeah, my friend at the theater pointed it out. He was like, "it's weird that they picked the emotional movies, isn't it?" which is true.

I'm just glad we finally got a non-sequel from them.

The first review for Brave is up. The catch? Ignorance. (http://www.ign.com/articles/2012/06/11/brave-review)

Despite who it's from, this does kind of confirm some of my beliefs that can and might go wrong with the film. And most of my friends tend to agree with me there, as well.

IGN is not the only one knocking the flick down (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/brave_2012/news/1925374/tomatometer_watch_brave/) it seems.

The reviews aren't too negative overall, but they do confirm my fears by saying that there really isn't anything new or special about Brave. It does look like that they might have fixed their earlier problems from its screentests, but it still won't rank among their best.

I wasn't expecting this to be like a Cars 2 (but I'm sure that there will be plenty more duds from Pixar in the future. If you don't think so, you're a fool), but I also wasn't setting my hopes up for another Wall*E or Up.

The negativity is surprisingly contagious. (http://www.rottentomatoes.com/m/brave_2012/)

Remember the days when Pixar could seemingly do no wrong, and the only ones that had the guts to knock them down were people like Armond White, who were contrarian just for the sake of being contrarian?

Welp, looks like those days have drawn to a close. Granted, it's still pretty early, but I'm already getting the feeling that this isn't going to be an overwhelming critical darling either (I mean, at their peak, do you ever remember a Pixar film getting this many bad reviews right out of the gate?). It was bound to happen eventually, though. Just the way things go.

*cue the "Pixar has lost its magic" periodicals in 3... 2...*

So if this doesn't do well, that's two Pixar movies in a row. Not good.

Of course there's also the possible case that critics are wrong. It has happened before, after all.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 15, 2012, 11:42:13 PM
Of course there's also the possible case that critics are wrong. It has happened before, after all.

Well... yeah, but...

Look, after Cars 2, can you really blame anyone for being just a tad skeptical? I mean, that one was even directed the man himself - John Lasseter - and yet it was just about as average and forgettable as an animated movie I've ever seen. Who actually thought it was a good idea to give Mater his own movie? They might as well have just called it "Cars 2: Larry Needs a Paycheck". I still can't believe it even came from Pixar, to be totally honest. Felt more like an early Aughts Dreamworks offering.

I think Brave still looks really good myself, but when I see the critics already starting to pour it on... well... it leaves me feeling a tad uneasy, just to say the very least. I'm still expecting it to be good, but we'll see.

How much money did Cars 2 make in comparison to last Pixar movies?

I'm still willing to give them the benefit of the doubt. Cars is an outlier as far as I'm concerned. Remember the movies we got after the first one? And most think Cars 2 was better than the first one.

Quote from: talonmalon333 on June 16, 2012, 12:15:58 AM
How much money did Cars 2 make in comparison to last Pixar movies?

A LOT.

When you look at it, the reviews aren't too negative, but they are saying that you shouldn't expect the next epic from them. Really though, this doesn't seem like the type of story that Pixar should make, and the weak reception is proving it.

As for it's score raising up? It might, but not too high. Usually the most positive reviews come first. Cars 2 was fresh at first, you know.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 16, 2012, 12:37:42 AM

Quote from: talonmalon333 on June 16, 2012, 12:15:58 AM
How much money did Cars 2 make in comparison to last Pixar movies?

A LOT.

...less

It didn't even crack 200 mill here, and it made about half of TS3's box office worldwide.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 16, 2012, 12:37:42 AM
And most think Cars 2 was better than the first one.

Really? From what I've seen, most think Cars 2 is worse. In fact, it seems to be the only Pixar movie that's downright disliked (whereas most like Cars 1, but agree it's low tier for Pixar).

I thought both were fun for a single watch, but that's about it. I think 2 was worse though. Way over the top.

I see a few people who prefer Cars 2, but yeah, the vast majority of fans, even those who do like both movies, agree that they're among Pixar's weaker entries.

Yeah, they are probably my least favorite Pixar movies... I wasn't a big fan of The Incredibles when I saw it ages ago. But I was young. I fully believe I would enjoy it nowadays.

Honestly, I have a hard time believing that. Most people I talk to agree that Cars 2 was definitely the weaker outing (as do the majority of critics; I know you don't like going there, but it's the only Pixar movie to date with more negative reviews than positive, and that has to account for something).

But hey, to each their own I suppose. I didn't really like it (but I do like Cars 1; always thought that one took a lot more flak than it deserved, even if it's still a bit weak by Pixar standards), but the pace wasn't nearly as slow as the original Cars, so I suppose it does have its merits.

I just think the whole secret spy storyline was overkill for a movie about cars. The original movie didn't capitalize on the car aspect enough. The sequel completely missed the boat.

I still haven't seen Cars 2, but the trailers made me think that it was just Cars on Steroids. Is that what it pretty much is?

Pretty much. The pace is a lot faster, and things are a lot more hectic than the first movie. I'd say that's an apt comparison.

Once you see it, you'll realize what everyone means when they say it's "Mater's Movie". I mean, Lightning McQueen and the gang are all here obviously, but almost all of the big spy stuff was saved exclusively for him (which, I still don't get; IMO he's not an interesting character in the least, so why they felt the need for him of all people to "steal the show" is anyone's guess).

So, Avaitor, can I just ask; what did you think of the first Cars? The second is different in a lot of ways; it's not nearly as slow or emotional, so if you didn't like that aspect of the first movie, you might like this better. Then again, it's pretty much all about Mater, so if you're not a fan of his character, you probably won't care for it too much (like me).

Quote from: Kiddington on June 16, 2012, 02:48:20 PM
So, Avaitor, can I just ask; what did you think of the first Cars?

I thought it was slow and juvenile. Although I can appreciate if they sped things up, I still don't think Cars 2 it sounds appealing to me.

Any thoughts on Brave (upcoming DisneyPixar princess movie)?

It looks...pretty generic and uninspired actually. Then again, so did A Bugs Life and Ratatoulie, and those still got warm receptions, but I'm just not feeling anything with this one, though that may change once I actually see the film. Still, I guess it's great that Pixar finally made a film with a female in the lead role.

A Bug's Life is usually considered one of the weaker Pixar films (I like it, but it's not at the top for me), and Ratatouille is mid-tier at this point as well. Brave might be around there when all is said and done.

I don't know, I just can't get interested in Brave. I respect that they are doing a film with a female protagonist and all that good stuff, but the story itself feels like its been done a bunch of times before, and Brave seems to have no real twist to it save for the fact that its a female protagonist, which really doesn't do anything to make me more interested since the trailers just make the story look cliche and predictable. A young person wants to go on some special journey and prove themselves....yeah, seen it before. Maybe the movie will be much better than the trailers make it seem, that has certainly happened before, but I still don't plan on seeing this in theaters. Maybe it'll be worth checking out once it comes to Netflix, though.

You guys get Disney films on Netflix?

Last time I checked, we only have among the most recent stuff, like Tangled, Up and TS3. I don't think we even have Cars 2 or Winnie the Pooh yet, though.

Edit: Oh shit! Monsters U. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vRbhvt89NM) trailer is out! It already looks more fun that Brave.

Quote from: Avaitor on June 20, 2012, 10:39:40 AM
Edit: Oh shit! Monsters U. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vRbhvt89NM) trailer is out!

I swear I thought you were referring to a Wii U game when I first read that. :P

Quote from: Avaitor on June 20, 2012, 10:39:40 AM
Edit: Oh shit! Monsters U. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vRbhvt89NM) trailer is out! It already looks more fun that Brave.

:awesome:

Oh yeah, now that looks good. Hopefully this should get them back on track, as it doesn't look like Brave is going to.

Yeah, I'm not feeling Brave at all. It just doesn't look appealing.

Being that Monster's Inc. is my personal favorite Pixar movie, also partly due to the fact that it doesn't get overrated as hell but audiences and critics alike, I'm excited for this prequel. Mike and Sully make such a great comedic duo.

I think Brave looks good.  :??: It may have a familiar formula, but I think that it looks like it will have some good humor and be entertaining. Also, looking trough Rotten Tomatoes, it now has 77%.

It's up to 79% now.

I don't know about you, but one of the main reasons that I'm not pumped for Brave is because I'm really sick of fairy tales. Even besides Disney's over reliance on them (seriously, give me another Lion King over another Beauty and the Beast any day), they seem to be like the next vampires in Hollywood. Brave doesn't look like it'll bring anything new to the formula.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 19, 2012, 10:50:51 PM
You guys get Disney films on Netflix?

I sometimes do, but end up buying them afterwards. Not quite the same effect with other animations.

Quote from: Avaitor on June 21, 2012, 11:04:54 AM
It's up to 79% now.

I don't know about you, but one of the main reasons that I'm not pumped for Brave is because I'm really sick of fairy tales. Even besides Disney's over reliance on them (seriously, give me another Lion King over another Beauty and the Beast any day), they seem to be like the next vampires in Hollywood. Brave doesn't look like it'll bring anything new to the formula.

Yeah, I'm absolutely sure that the film is solid and an entertaining family flick. The thing is, I'm just so worn down on the whole fairytale theme that I just can't get myself interested in seeing this movie. Plus, if I were to be completely honest I can't stand the character designs in this movie (same with The Incredibles). Something about them just doesn't come off right to me. I know its purposely going for a cartoony look, but....IDK, it somehow looks more obnoxious to me than fun-spirited like I think the artists and animators were going for.

I understand what you mean there. Pixar doesn't do human designs very well. They don't look as lame as Sid in TS1 does, but I still don't like how The Inccredibles, Up or Brave look at all. Especially Merida, who is grotesque looking, but I can't exactly put my fingers on just how.

Also, the rating was back down to 71% last time I checked. But besides what critics think, has anyone here seen it yet?

I'm just gonna go in assuming a good, 8/10 material film.

I might be going next week. We'll see on that one.

You know, as much as I've been complaining about it, I might see the film too. Not by first choice, but if any of my friends want to go see it, and there's one or two of them who do, then I wouldn't say no to tagging along. You'll know if and when I pull out a talkback.

Although really, maybe it's just because I know so few people who want to see it compared to other Pixar films, but I don't see Brave becoming a big hit. It'll definitely make its money back, but I think it might just be too niche to catch on beyond diehards. Then again, you could have expected to say the same thing about Wall*E, but that did catch on...

I don't want to see Brave because there's just nothing about it jumping out at me. Fairytale setting? Seen it. A girl breaking the norms of a princess to show she's just as tough as the boys? Seen it. And the people in it look really ugly and the whole thing just look unappealing to me. The Rotten Tomatoes ranking doesn't help it much, either. A friend of mine saw it and claims it was really good but I don't know.

I'll probably be waiting for it to hit Netflix.

Depending on what my dad is doing to my car this week, I plan to see Brave on Monday just to live up to my tradition of seeing every Pixar film in theaters. I'll admit that Brave is one film from them that didn't grab me from it's marketing of from info I saw. It did look like it was playing it safe as far as the story goes. Hell, I'll even admit that I did enjoy Cars 2 much more than Cars 1 and that my least favorite Pixar right now is A Bug's Life. Besides, we all know that Cars 2 was just a marketing tool for Disney to make more Cars toys out of it. Remember, this is coming from the forum's resident Pokemon guru. BUY OUR TOYS! and I will say I never got the hatred for Cars movie as much as everyone else. I mean the only thing I can give points against it was the fact that the plot of Cars 1 was done already by Michael J. Fox already in Doc Hollywood.

As for designs of the humans, I think Dreamworks does humans better even before in films like Shrek. I mean I always knew that Pixar's designs are supposed to be cartoony and all, but I will say that I love the designs of the more cartoony Dreamworks humans like in How to Train Your Dragon than in  Brave.

Cars is just not memorable or funny in any way IMO. I can't say anything about the sequel, but I don't see how the first can have appeal for anyone who is in double digits.

There won't be a Cars 3, BTW. At least, not in theaters and as a part of the Pixar canon. The poor reception and considerably weaker box office killed any chances of that, but you can expect to see the toys all over for years to come.

I like Cars, but I also really like cars(I grew up around cars, my dad had dozens of old cars, from Mustangs and Chevelles to Gran Torinos[know that Clint Eastwood movie Gran Torino?  My dad had two of those cars when I was a kid], and of course his beloved Galaxie).  I love going to car shows and watching car related movies.  My first car was a 1970 Ford Maverick that I paid $600 for at the age of 15. That's it's appeal to me, all the automotive history that is in the movie.  The fucking Richard Petty voiced legend race car is a blue 1970 Plymouth Superbird, something that Richard Petty himself is famous for. The bugs that fly around in the movie are Volkswagen Beetles, and Lightning McQueen's two Japanese groupies are Mazda Miatas.  One of the Andretti's shows up and is a 1967 Ford Fairlane.  And in Cars 2 it makes fun of all the notoriously crappy AMC Gremlins and Pacers for being "lemons".  It's stuff like that, America's car culture and Route 66 and all that.  I understand that Cars and Cars 2 are probably Pixar's weakest films story wise, because they are really formulaic, but I don't understand when someone says that it doesn't have any appeal or heart, because it does.  Just not to you guys who have no interest in cars or their history except for the fact that they get you from point A to point B.

That's a good point. I'm not much of a vehicle fan in general, but there is an appeal there for people. Sort of like how the Scottish influence in Brave really interests me due to having a lot of interest in Scottish history beyond dumb kilt jokes.

Welp Brave did well this weekend. It did a little better than Cars 2's opening weekend and cracked Pixar's personal top 5 for openers. Maybe there is a market for it.

Well I came back from Brave. I found it generic, a tad predictable in some places (Part thanks to trailers, some parts due to seeing this before) yet I still enjoyed myself at most of the story. I felt like I saw this movie before. Though I do love who voiced the Witch's crow.

Still La Luna made it for me, such a cute little short about a family of janitors cleaning up the moon. That little kid was so adorable by Pixar standards.

I saw Brave yesterday, and really dug it. No, it wasn't particularly original, but it was really well written with a lot of really good moments. It definitely ranks higher for me than the lesser Pixar films like Ratatouille and A Bug's Life, and probably above the Car movies and Finding Nemo.

La Luna was pretty cute, though. It was nice to see a more straightforward Pixar short not based on high-speed antics.

All in all, it was a great movie. It won't blow you away like Toy Story 3, Up, or WALL*E, but it's definitely not a letdown.

Sequelmania is officially happening. (http://www.deadline.com/2012/07/john-carter-helmer-andrew-stanton-dives-back-into-animation-with-finding-nemo-sequel/)

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So much for Pixar being above all this.

I just don't get why Finding Nemo is the next to get the nod. Is this really a story that needs continuation? So, what exactly; Nemo grows up, and stuff happens? Marlin continues to be neurotic and overbearing? Dory is still as crazy as ever? Bruce the Shark decides that fish are indeed food, and not friends after all? And I mean, I love the first film, as you know, but this news is just so meh.

Oh yeah, AND WHERE IS MY INCREDIBILES 2 DAMMIT. If we're going sequel happy, at least go with the franchise that, you know, FITS PERFECTLY FOR A SEQUEL.

Wanna know why Finding Nemo is next? The Toy Story franchise aside, it's their biggest hit. I think the so-so reception Brave has had caused Pixar to be more sequel hungry, and John Carter's awful lifespan (seriously. it did so poorly that Disney kicked their boss out) forced Andrew Stanton to do it.

This, along with Cars 2 and the possible Toy Story 4, will exist for one reason and one reason alone- to earn money.

inb4 WALL-E-2

Finding Nemo has absolutely no potential for a sequel. Other than the Monster's Inc prequel, the only one with sequel potential is the Incredibles.

I really don't want Pixar to devolve into a cheapquel factory. The majority of their movies do not lend themselves to sequels.

I'm against the barrage of sequels, myself (The Monsters Inc. prequel is an exception, because I love Monsters Inc. and it DOES actually lend itself well to a prequel), but for the love of God they better as hell not make another Toy Story movie. I think most people can agree that Toy Story 3 was the perfect ending for the series. It tied the knot on the story and brought everything to a close. Making a sequel would just miss the point of that TS3 accomplished for the series, and I doubt it'd be any good even on its own as we've already seen all of the interesting plots that the potential of the idea/concept behind Toy Story could bring us, anyways.

A Toy Story 4 would be horrendous. Seriously.

That simply can't happen.

When the cast signed onto Toy Story 3, they also signed into a TS4, which was supposed to equate to just a couple of shorts and 2 TV specials.

Of course, they could have changed that contract since, and honestly, would you be surprised if they did?

I will willingly go homeless if Toy Story 4 ever comes out.

C'mon guys, you're telling me you don't want to see Up 2 or Ratatouille 2?  :sly:

The day they make Toy Story 4 is the day I start being very cautious of what Pixar plans to announce. Yes that does include original ideas.

Another Bug's Life.

They should remake Ikiru and make it  about the Queen dying and Atta taking her place.

I'm bored so I'm going to pull out all the Pixar movies and their potential for sequels:

Toy Story- You could've ended it with the first movie and it would've still been a classic, but they got lucky twice and pulled out two amazing sequels to compliment the film. The original characters are likable enough to come back and interact with each other, and most of the new toys added enough to the new story. However, while the new shorts are welcome and the TV specials might even be good, 3 was a perfect cap-off to the film franchise and doing another feature would only cheapen the ending of it.

I know that Disney and Pixar would want to do it considering the massive success that 3 had in the box-office, but most of that came from the kids, now teenagers and young adults, that grew up loving the first 2 movies and wanted to see their favorite toys go through one more grand adventure. We got what we wanted and have another brilliant film to add to our collection. I feel that a Toy Story 4 would only demean 3's existence and would not be anywhere near as big of a hit as 3 was.

A Bugs Life- This could've actually happened... not too long after the movie came out. ABL is easily Pixar's least popular movie. I do think that the characters are strong enough to have another go-through together, but there isn't much of a market for it, since Disney has really given it the shaft ever since Pixar has proven time and time again that they could top this.

Monsters, Inc- Well we are getting Monsters University, and that should be good considering how strong Mike and Sully's relationship is and just how fun the first movie was. They also could possibly pull off a sequel with an older Boo if they wanted to, but let's see how this goes first.

Finding Nemo- What, is this going to be Finding Dory?

Really though, I was talking about this with some friends a day or two before the sequel was announced, and one of them said that they could pull off a sequel involving Marlin finding that his wife and all their children turned out to survive that attack in the beginning of the first movie, and Nemo has to learn to adapt to living with them. And honestly, that is a HORRIBLE idea for a film. It spits on the beginning of the original, which was one of the most effective parts of the film, and  would turn this into a generic family movie with an overdone moral you could find in a Full House repeat.

The sad thing, though? That's the best idea for a sequel that I could think of.

The Incredibles- EK, I know you're not a fan of this one at all, but even you have to admit that this could handle its own sequel better than just about any other Pixar movie, right?

Even if they don't want to replace Violet and Dash's actors, they can just do a prequel and show us some of the earlier adventures of Mr. Incredible, Elastigirl and Frozone. I think that would be fun.

Cars- Even though the franchise isn't very popular with adults, there's enough life and character in Radiator Springs and its cast to have been able to make a franchise out of it. Cars 2's weak reception killed any hope for a third one though, which there really wouldn't be a need for in the first place. I do think that they could still make shorts and maybe a special or two out of it with no problem, however.

Ratatouille- Here's an open and shut film. The movie ended perfectly fine with Remy and Linguini opening up a restaurant together, even though it gave the film a cold message by saying that if you lie and cheat your way to the top, you will be rewarded in life for doing so. There really isn't any more you can do with the characters though. All I can think of is a cook-off thing for Remy to compete in, which sounds like a super lame idea.

Wall*E- Nothing. A continuation would ruin the whole of the film and a prequel showing how humans moved into the ship would be too depressing for anyone to get behind. Not to mention that you couldn't find a middle ground as strong as Stanton did in this and whatever they did would have to be entirely in pantomime or done like a traditional film, which would spoil the artistic brilliance of the original.

Up- The ending pretty much completed Carl and Russell's saga. Unless you want to make Down, featuring the funeral of Carl, then by all means, go for it.

Brave- I still haven't seen it, but if it's as shut of a film as the last few originals have been, I doubt that they could think of a good follow-up for it.

Good post.

The Incredibles and A Bugs Life are really the only two you could probably make a decent sequel for, at this point. As you said though, ABL is too old and pretty much forgotten about by now to really risk banking on as a strong seller, so you're really only left with one that truly makes sense.

...and as far as that goes, you know how I feel there; there should have already been an Incredibles 2, or at least something announced. It's still one of my favorite Pixar outings to date (EK, I can't believe you don't like this movie), and it's pretty much the only one here other than ABL that doesn't either already have a sequel, or have a totally open and shut storyline. There are a ton of directions you could take this franchise, prequel or sequel, given the cast of characters, their respective backstories, and everything else they have at their disposal. The fact that they're not even considering this... quite disappointing to me, to say the least.

Also, I know this is really old news by now, but it still irks me that they canned Newt. It was too early in development to really get a feel of the direction they would have taken that movie, but at this point, I'm sure everyone would have been far more open and receptive to an original concept than a sequel to a movie that has NO sequel potential whatsoever. But hey, whatever pays the bills, I suppose. You still see Finding Nemo fruit snacks all these years later, so if popularity outclasses originality, so be it.

Yeah, I could never really get myself to enjoy The Incredibles no matter how hard I tried (and I have watched the film at least 3 times), but I wouldn't deny that its definitely the best suited Pixar film to warrant a sequel (or even better yet, a prequel, like Avaitor pointed out).

Also as mentioned above, A Bug's Life could have managed a sequel of its own, but its been well over a decade since it came out and I highly doubt that it'll ever get any attention again if its been ignored up until this point.

As for Toy Story, I've already shared my thoughts on it. The 3 films that we have are each great stand-alone films that also come together to make a great trilogy. Most importantly, TS3 caps the story off for good. There's no way they could justify making a TS4 at all. The only thing I could see them doing is maybe taking the same concept and telling a story about another group of toys, but that would just be pointless as people who only ever want to see TS3 for the characters that they had come to love so much in the first 3 films, anyways, so yeah, I think that the series should be rightly done with TS3, but you never know, greed can get the better of any company, including respectable ones like Pixar (don't forget that Disney has been plagued by this for a long time despite being so unquestionably respected back in its prime years)

MonstersU is a great idea as a prequel would make more sense than a sequel given the ending of the first movie. I mean, a sequel would be kind of odd as I can't think of any big conflicts that could come up after the events of the first film.

As for Finding Nemo....yeah, I'm just as much at a loss as everyone else as to what possible sequel idea they could come up with. The first movie was clearly meant to be a stand-alone story and had such a closed-knit ending that there's absolutely no story that a sequel could potentially tell that has any chance of being a quality story that's worth telling. I could be wrong, though.

Then there's Cars. I didn't like the first one, but I wouldn't deny that it could have had a sequel....and it did....and a lot of people still didn't like it, so I'm pretty sure that this series is done now, anyways.

Ratatouille and Wall-E are done. Both of their respective films told stand-alone stories and finished them up with complete endings. There is literally nothing you could add to either movie through a sequel, and thus is not warranted for either movie. I don't know what else to say. Its really just as simple as that.

To be honest, I could actually picture Up having a sequel. To me, Up was a great adventure movie, and another movie could tell another great stand-alone adventure story. That said, I don't think its at all necessary and I doubt that it could capture the same emotion and passion of the original movie, so I'd agree that this film is best-left as a stand-alone.

And, finally we come to Brave. Having seen it myself despite not even being interested, it could actually have a sequel. If nothing else, the movie did have a rich mythology behind it that could be further explored in a sequel, or it could cover the when the princess is a little older and finally has to choose a husband and succeed her mother as the queen. Either way, though, I just don't think I'd be interested. I went and saw this movie despite already not being interested, and all that happened was that I found out that I was right, and was honestly quire bored with this movie, so even if it could sustain a sequel, I just flat-out wouldn't care enough to see it, myself.

Brave was about the importance of family and traditions, so it was pretty well contained in the movie. But it wasn't closed off to the point where a sequel would be impossible... but I don't see it happening any time soon.

The Incredibles really just stuns me as to why there hasn't been a sequel. Look at how popular superhero movies are now compared to when the original came out (and the original was HUGE), this is a total no-brainer. Yet instead they're going to make a sequel to a movie with absolutely no sequel potential for cheap bucks.

Cheapquel.

The thing about Disney is that at least they made most of their sequels DTV so they didn't waste the theater's time and space with filler.

Pixar is too proud to make any of these DTV.

They should be too proud to make a sequel to a movie with no sequel potential, IMO.

That's what bothered me most about when Disney was doing it. It felt like they had absolutely no respect for their own work. They make their own work feel cheap and hollow. How much they cost to make is sort of beside the point, in my opinion. There's definitely little heart or soul in the efforts beyond product for dollars.

Quote from: Avaitor on July 18, 2012, 07:43:38 PM
Pixar is too proud to make any of these DTV.

Well, the spinoff (or whatever it is) to Cars, that Planes movie, is DTV, so I guess they're really not above anything at this point.

It's all very surprising when you think about it. People always thought that eventually Pixar would lose its touch over time - it happens - and while they'd still be original, the quality would be on the decline... but to see them stoop down to the level of being nothing but another sequel machine, I don't think anyone seen that coming.

This Finding Nemo announcement... it's not a sign of good things to come from these guys. Hey, I'd love to be proven wrong, though. Time will tell.

Quote from: Kiddington on July 18, 2012, 08:04:29 PM
Well, the spinoff (or whatever it is) to Cars, that Planes movie, is DTV, so I guess they're really not above anything at this point.

Pixar has only minimal involvement in that- it's being done by Disney's cheapquel department. It's all Disney otherwise.

Finding Nemo is getting a sequel? ...Really? What story is left to tell with Finding Nemo? I really can't think of anywhere to take that story. What, is he going to get kidnapped again? Pixar, I used to have such respect for you, but between Cars 2 and now this it's becoming more and more obvious that the mighty dollar speaks to you more than creating art.

If you ever make a Toy Story 4 or a WALL-E 2 I will shoot myself.

Well you might want to get a head start on the gun, there are rumors of a Toy Story 4 in the works.  Nothing's official yet, but it has been hinted at.

So will it be about Nemo growing up and shit, since his actor's pushing 20 now and sounds the part judging from Weeds.

Unless it's a prequel (ala Monster's Inc 2.), there is absolutely no way they can make Toy Story 4 and not completely shatter the integrity of the series, given the way 3 ended. Just none. It's simply not possible.

...and even then, a prequel would really be a stretch. I can't believe they're even considering this.

What would they do a prequel out of? And why even bother, when they're doing the shorts now?

I understand that TS3 made a shitload of money, becoming Disney's highest grossing film until Lion King's 3D rerelease helped pushed it back to the top, but its gross consisted primarily of teens and young adults who grew up watching the first 2 movies and wanted to give the characters one final hurrah. Toy Story 3 was the perfect finale, and there's nothing you can do in a 4th that we didn't already accomplish here.

Hell, they even redid some elements from the first 2 movies in 3. Imagine how much ground they'd tread again?

Maybe they'll just use brand new toys with a brand new kid

Pointless? Sure, but it could happen.

Oh, did anyone go see Finding Nemo in 3D when it was theaters a couple of week ago?

I passed on it, unsurprisingly, but I hear that it was a good transfer.

In no order:

Toy Story 1 & 3 (didn't care much for 2)
A Bug's Life
The Incredibles
Wall-E

Since I've been watching ABC Family tonight (because Tuesday's TV line up is quite awful) I have watched the Pixar Shorts, WALL*E, and now Up.

In my opinion, those are still their best films.

So, what the hell was up with Cars 2?

I mean, seriouslyyyy

Yeah, it's... bad. Really, really bad.

Say what you want about Finding Nemo, or hell even Brave... they've got NOTHING on this.

There won't be a Cars 3.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on January 30, 2013, 12:03:31 AM
There won't be a Cars 3.

Tell Peter Paltridge that.

Quote from: Avaitor on January 30, 2013, 12:07:08 AM

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on January 30, 2013, 12:03:31 AM
There won't be a Cars 3.

Tell Peter Paltridge that.

*looks around*  :sweat:

Really, Pixar? Really? Screw you.

Just..... why?

Uh... what now?

Did they announce Toy Story 4 or something?

Or is this about the lack of acknowledgement towards Brenda Chapman?

Quote from: Kiddington on February 23, 2013, 03:46:57 PM
Did they announce Toy Story 4 or something?

Apparently, yes.

Quote from: talonmalon333 on February 23, 2013, 04:00:00 PM

Quote from: Kiddington on February 23, 2013, 03:46:57 PM
Did they announce Toy Story 4 or something?

Apparently, yes.

:wth: :wth: :wth: :wth: :wth:

:whuh: :whuh: :whuh: :whuh: :whuh:

:burn: :burn: :burn: :burn: :burn:

:anger: :anger: :anger: :anger: :anger:

I suppose before I overreact, though, I should demand some proof.

Ah. Well there's still hope. Apparently it's just a rumor that's going all around the internet, but Disney has denied it saying "Nothing's official".

We shall see.

http://www.underthegunreview.net/2013/02/19/rumor-pixar-planning-2015-release-for-toy-story-4-tim-allen-and-tom-hanks-to-return/
http://www.nme.com/filmandtv/news/disney-denies-toy-story-4-rumours/296465

There is a slot for an unnamed Pixar film in 2015, so that could be it. Then again, as far as Disney is concerned, the Toy Story 4 that Tim Allen said he signed up for was just a contract to confirm that the cast will come back for the various shorts they've been making.

We'll just have to wait and see.

QuoteApparently it's just a rumor that's going all around the internet, but Disney has denied it saying "Nothing's official".

For fuck's sake, Talon. If you're going to rile up shit, at least get credible sources.

Yeah, at least there's official sources for Finding Nemo 2 happening.

And bringing discussion back to Chapman, it must suck for her to see others take the credit for her work. She wasn't even allowed to talk at the Grammys.

Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on February 23, 2013, 05:36:09 PM

QuoteApparently it's just a rumor that's going all around the internet, but Disney has denied it saying "Nothing's official".

For fuck's sake, Talon. If you're going to rile up shit, at least get credible sources.

I didn't know it was just a rumor at first. :whuh:

So Brave got the Oscar.

I would find a reaction image, but I just don't care at this point.

Weak year at the Oscars?

Anyway, I've actually only seen 2 Pixar movies. Just... 2.

Toy Story and Finding Nemo. Both outstanding but, I think everyone knows Toy Story is the better.

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Toy Story and Finding Nemo. Both outstanding but, I think everyone knows Toy Story is the better.

"Everyone" seems like a grand leap.

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Did we form a pool on what the sequel was going to involve? Because I'm pretty sure that I called Finding Dory a while ago.

Well at least it isn't like Free Willy where Nemo gets kidnapped again. Seriously man, that whale got caught 4 different times.

This is a terrible, terrible idea.

Why do they not make a new Incredibles movie with the current superhero popularity boom? I just don't get it.

Ellen's been campaigning for a sequel for a long time now. I think part of this is being made to make her happy (hence the major Dory focus), while part of it is punishment for Stanton after John Carter's massive bomb, but most of this is being made for the money.

Quote from: Avaitor on April 02, 2013, 06:19:03 PM
Ellen's been campaigning for a sequel for a long time now. I think part of this is being made to make her happy (hence the major Dory focus), while part of it is punishment for Stanton after John Carter's massive bomb, but most of this is being made for the money.

Stanton said a few times that he had a few ideas on how to continue Finding Nemo, so I'm pretty sure he's good on making a sequel. By contrast, Brad Bird doesn't have a solid idea that he thinks would carry an Incredibles 2.

Didn't we consider "Finding Dory" as a joke title a while ago?

Quote from: talonmalon333 on April 03, 2013, 02:19:50 PM
Didn't we consider "Finding Dory" as a joke title a while ago?

It's a common fanfic title, too. Just do a search.

I'm still waiting for Nemo Finds Himself, where the title character struggles with depression as he exits his teenage years and faces a painful existential crisis.

Quote from: Foggle on April 03, 2013, 04:26:15 PM
I'm still waiting for Nemo Finds Himself, where the title character struggles with depression as he exits his teenage years and faces a painful existential crisis.

Didn't the actor find himself doing the same thing in Weeds?

Quote from: Avaitor on April 03, 2013, 07:04:39 PM

Quote from: Foggle on April 03, 2013, 04:26:15 PM
I'm still waiting for Nemo Finds Himself, where the title character struggles with depression as he exits his teenage years and faces a painful existential crisis.

Didn't the actor find himself doing the same thing in Weeds?

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Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 03, 2013, 04:23:20 PM

Quote from: talonmalon333 on April 03, 2013, 02:19:50 PM
Didn't we consider "Finding Dory" as a joke title a while ago?

It's a common fanfic title, too. Just do a search.

There was even a Boom Kids! comic about it back when Boom had the Disney License that was about Finding Dory.

In other news.

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Quote from: Foggle on April 03, 2013, 04:26:15 PM
I'm still waiting for Nemo Finds Himself, where the title character struggles with depression as he exits his teenage years and faces a painful existential crisis.

That idea would be better.

More sequels, coming soon? (http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/film/sequel-to-disney-pixar-s-brave-on-the-cards-1-2885742)

Quote from: Avaitor on April 09, 2013, 06:17:34 PM
More sequels, coming soon? (http://www.scotsman.com/lifestyle/film/sequel-to-disney-pixar-s-brave-on-the-cards-1-2885742)

I feel like the only sequel that I really don't want is Toy Story 4. As for the idea of sequeling other Pixar movies, I mean, I don't support all of them. But I'm not exactly against them... Then again, I don't think any of us want to see those cars in action ever again.

Still, The Incredibles 2 should happen, if they're planning on more sequels.

The Incredibles 2 is the only one I would be interested in a sequel for.

But as long as they never sequel Up or WALL*E, I'll be fine.

I still haven't seen all of Brave, but I don't think a sequel for it is a really awful idea.

Yet, I also don't think that there is a lot of interest in there being one. It wasn't that popular.

Quote from: Avaitor on April 09, 2013, 08:33:53 PM
I still haven't seen all of Brave, but I don't think a sequel for it is a really awful idea.

Yet, I also don't think that there is a lot of interest in there being one. It wasn't that popular.

What about the original Cars? :P

I'd only want to see an Incredibles 2 if the film has a script that's as kick-ass as the first movie. If the only idea for a sequel is some lame gimmick like super pets or super grandparents, then I'd rather the film stay a glorious one-shot.

Quote from: talonmalon333 on April 09, 2013, 08:36:17 PM

Quote from: Avaitor on April 09, 2013, 08:33:53 PM
I still haven't seen all of Brave, but I don't think a sequel for it is a really awful idea.

Yet, I also don't think that there is a lot of interest in there being one. It wasn't that popular.

What about the original Cars? :P

Well kids love it, so that made sense. Even if it wasn't as big box-office hit as Finding Nemo or the Toy Storys, they made more than enough in toys and DVD sales to justify the sequel.

Brave was far from a bomb, but it wasn't one of Pixar's biggest hits, nor does it have as much of a following as most of their films, which is why the news surprised me a little.

So there's been a bit of controversy over Merida being made into a Disney Princess due to a redesign, and the original director Brenda Chapman is peeved. Personally, I think the only problem was taking her bow away. Other than that, there's nothing wrong. The character looks exactly the same, her waist isn't an hourglass figure the way moms are reacting.


Still, I can't help but feel a little sorry the director. While I ended up enjoying Brave (and my mom likes it), it was still basically stolen from her and it wasn't what she had in mind. I wonder how different it would have been if she hadn't been dropped.

From what I hear, the other director just added in more of the gross-out humor with the brothers, as well as some other gags. The core story with Merida and her mother was more or less the same as Chapman intended.

Here's a thing that I always had with WALL-E. And it's not a flaw in the slightest. It's just a tiny nitpick. But I always found it somewhat strange for the human characters in the movie to be animated and practically blobs, after the movie showed us live-action humans earlier on.

But those live action humans(really just Fred Willard) were shown in archived footage that was over 700 years old by that point, and I guess the movie they showed WALL-E watching.  The humans that were on the ship were barely humans, they regressed that far, pretty much to the point were they didn't even fundamentally function as humans.  Plus depicting those overweight and barely mobile characters as live action probably would've been pretty jarring.

btw, I think I could go several years without seeing this movie again, it has been screened dozens of times on my ship in the last four months, same with fucking Toy Story(never thought I'd say this), The Sandlot, and Angels in the goddamned Outfield.

Having not seen it since it was brand new, I have finally gotten around to rewatching The Incredibles. It's better than I remembered. I dare say it's rather, well, incredible. But I suppose by default it ends up being lower tier Pixar, not that that's a bad thing at all.

I actually consider it upper-tier with Up and Wall*E.

The Incredibles doesn't really get as emotional as some of Pixar's other films, which is probably why it doesn't make it high on a lot of people's lists. But I find the general lack of a sob factor a brisk change of pace in the film.

I really like it, too, and I can see how the lack of sob factor is a nice change of pace. I just love Pixar and am a huge fan of nearly all their movies (except Cars and Cars 2 which weren't anything special, and I haven't seen Brave yet). Maybe once I give it some more time to let it settle, The Incredibles will move up my list.

And I just got done seeing Up for a second time (I haven't seen it since it first came out in 2009 or 2010). That movie is just beautiful.

Next week I'm gonna see Brave, which is the only Pixar movie I haven't seen yet.

Reviews for Monsters U are coming in, and surprisingly, they aren't THAT positive. They're not really negative though, but you would've expected it to be higher than 71%, right?

The reception seems to be that it's good, but not really great. Fun, but not at the level of Pixar's best.

That's too bad, but I'm sure I'll like it.

So tonight I finally got around to seeing Brave (the only Pixar movie I hadn't yet seen). Honestly, it was a lot better than I thought it would be. I liked what was going on, the animation was better than ever, and the music was great. I'd say Merida is one of the top 3 best Disney Princesses, alongside Belle and Giselle (screw what Disney says, she deserves to count as a Disney Princess).

Also, Mor'du has an excellent design that is legitimately intimidating.

That reminds me, talon, have you seen Princess and the Frog or Tangled yet?

Quote from: Avaitor on June 11, 2013, 10:09:33 AM
That reminds me, talon, have you seen Princess and the Frog or Tangled yet?

Not yet. All I know is that Tangled was supposedly really good. What do you think?

Quote from: talonmalon333 on June 11, 2013, 11:48:13 AM

Quote from: Avaitor on June 11, 2013, 10:09:33 AM
That reminds me, talon, have you seen Princess and the Frog or Tangled yet?

Not yet. All I know is that Tangled was supposedly really good. What do you think?

I prefer TPATF, but you really should check them both out. I'd put Tiana and Rapunzel high among my favorite princesses.

Quote from: talonmalon333 on June 11, 2013, 06:14:52 PM
Here's an unpopular opinion.

I consider Brave to be completely middle tier for Pixar. Like, as middle as possible.

And on that note, I figure I might as well rank them. Of the 13 movies, Brave falls dead center at #7.

1. Toy Story 3
2. Toy Story
3. Toy Story 2  :awesome:
4. WALL-E
5. Finding Nemo
6. Up
7. Brave
8. The Incredibles
9. Monsters, Inc.
10. A Bug's Life
11. Ratatouille
12. Cars
13. Cars 2

To be honest, I love every movie there from 1-10. As for Ratatouille, I like that movie but don't love it. The Cars movies are decent entertainment for kids, but I don't think much more of them.

Let me try. It's been a while since I've seen many of these movies, though.

1. Up
2. Toy Story 3
3. Toy Story 2
4. WALL-E
5. Toy Story
6. Monsters Inc.
7. Ratatouille
8. The Incredibles
9. Finding Nemo
10. A Bug's Life
11. Brave/Cars (it's a tie for me)
12. Cars 2

I'll go again:

1. Up
2. WALL-E
3. The Incredibles
4. Toy Story 3
5. Toy Story
6. Monsters Inc.
7. Toy Story 2
8. Brave
9. Finding Nemo
10. Ratatouille
11. A Bug's Life
12. Cars
13. Cars 2

A recent rewatch of Monster's Inc. put it above Toy Story 2 for me.

I haven't seen Up, Cars 2, or Brave yet, but of the ten I have seen...

1. Toy Story 2
2. Toy Story 3
3. Toy Story
4. WALL-E
5. The Incredibles
6. Monsters Inc.
7. Finding Nemo
8. A Bug's Life
9. Ratatouile
10. Cars

MU is up to 78%. An improvement, but I am still surprised that we got negative reviews so early.

People tired of the sequels?

It does seem like there's more momentum for Despicable Me 2, doesn't it?

Oh, but MU is up to 80% now, but the general consensus seems to be that it's merely good, not great. Which hey, I'll take.

To be honest, I'm kinda just craving a good fun movie right now. Monsters University seems like the kind of film that will satiate that craving.

I wasn't expecting it to be top tier animation. But hey, it's still Pixar either way.

Quote from: talonmalon333 on June 15, 2013, 12:41:18 AMI wasn't expecting it to be top tier animation. But hey, it's still Pixar either way.

You're not expecting good animation from Pixar? ???

Quote from: Daikun on June 21, 2013, 08:43:34 PM

Quote from: talonmalon333 on June 15, 2013, 12:41:18 AMI wasn't expecting it to be top tier animation. But hey, it's still Pixar either way.

You're not expecting good animation from Pixar? ???

"Top tier" (as in, some of the best ever) isn't the same as merely "good". :imnothappy:

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 13, 2013, 06:59:02 PM
People tired of the sequels?

Eh, Brave was a standalone film and that didn't exactly strike a chord with most people. Pixar just... seems to be on the downswing. You can't stay on top of the mountain forever. We all kinda knew this was going to happen eventually.

With that said, I'll still be making time for MU next week. Lukewarm reviews or not, it still sounds like it's (mostly) worth watching. And I love these characters, so it'll be nice to see them in action again.

No filmography is perfect. If Hitchcock, Kurosawa, Kubrick, Truffaut, Wilder, Ozu, Ford, etc can make weaker films, than it's only a matter of time for Pixar to do the same.

And hell, it doesn't even sound like MU is a bad movie. I haven't seen any overly negative reviews yet, merely that it's a step down from their best.

Pixar already made a "bad movie" to call their own, two years ago. Maybe the rest of their films will be good. :P

I just saw Monsters University and you know what? It was a pretty good movie. Plenty funny and never dull. The only problem with it is that it's not wholly original; take away a couple of aspects of the setting and it's your standard college movie. That's not to say it isn't a really well done college movie, just that unlike Pixar's best works, which create worlds of their own and feel like unique experiences, Monsters University felt like a movie that in some respects I had seen before. Still, it's a good fun movie through and through, and I'd say it's definitely worth checking out.

After the weak Cars 2 and the ho-hum Brave, I can safely say that Pixar has picked themselves back up.

MU was a great movie. I actually liked it more than Inc.

I still think Brave was awesome.

Quote from: talonmalon333 on June 23, 2013, 12:17:26 AM
I still think Brave was awesome.

But then again, we still know that you're Talon.

Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on June 23, 2013, 01:45:20 AM

Quote from: talonmalon333 on June 23, 2013, 12:17:26 AM
I still think Brave was awesome.

But then again, we still know that you're Talon.

That's why Brave being awesome should be considered a fact.

According to this, sequels will definitely continue to play a role in Pixar's lineups. (http://www.buzzfeed.com/adambvary/pixar-chief-studio-to-scale-back-sequels-aim-for-one-origina)

Also, I think I'm going to change the thread title, since this became more of a general Pixar thread a while ago.

Well I just came back from Monsters University, and it was pretty cute. I wouldn't say it's one of Pixar's best, but I enjoyed the film for what it is.

And yes, it doesn't take much to get to see all of your favorites from the original. Aside from well, y'no.

Quote from: Avaitor on July 12, 2013, 11:48:44 AM
Well I just came back from Monsters University, and it was pretty cute. I wouldn't say it's one of Pixar's best, but I enjoyed the film for what it is.

And yes, it doesn't take much to get to see all of your favorites from the original. Aside from well, y'no.

Yep, I thought it was a fun companion piece to the original. I'm glad it was made. I also have to admit that I didn't see 'what happened after the competition' coming since I was expecting it to be a direct parody of college movies.

But, just like the original, it's a great buddy movie and a nice reminder of older Pixar movies pre-Incredibles.

It doesn't mean I don't want them to keep trying newer stuff like Brave, WALL*E, or Up, but this was a nice treat for the older fans who have been fans since the beginning.

Planes is currently at 22% at RT.

Yes, that is worse than Cars 2.

I'm surprised it's that high. It stars Dane Cook.

Wow, that's terrible, especially for all the promotion I've seen it getting.

I don't see this being a big hit. We haven't exactly been want for kids movies this summer, and Cars 2 was a disappointment for Pixar.

There's little going for Planes to be a smash.

Is it really fair to talk about Planes in this thread? Pixar didn't make this film; it was done by DisneyToon Studios.

Maybe, maybe not. But is it really worth making a thread for the movie?

Quote from: Avaitor on August 08, 2013, 04:59:42 PM
Maybe, maybe not. But is it really worth making a thread for the movie?

Not really. Besides, Planes does have a degree of separation from Pixar due to it being a spin-off from one of their movies. Still... the burning question remains if Planes will do better than Turbo.

Quote from: Avaitor on August 08, 2013, 04:59:42 PMMaybe, maybe not. But is it really worth making a thread for the movie?

There's a General Disney Movies (http://animationrevelation.com/forum/index.php?topic=120) thread.

Eh, it's supposed to be a Cars spinoff movie, so it's not like it's completely out of place to talk about it in a Pixar thread.

You have to want to fail to put Dane Cook as the lead of your movie. Sheeeeeit.  :lol:

Wasn't Jon Cryer the original lead?

Oh yeah, and since we're here, I guess it's also worth mentioning... this movie has already inspired it's own crappy knockoff. (http://www.avclub.com/articles/cheap-cars-knockoff-gets-own-cheap-knockoff,101425/)

Quote from: Kiddington on August 12, 2013, 02:00:27 AM
I guess it's also worth mentioning... this movie has already inspired it's own crappy knockoff. (http://www.avclub.com/articles/cheap-cars-knockoff-gets-own-cheap-knockoff,101425/)

Seriously??

I thought Shark Tale and The Wild were pushing it. That is such an unabashed ripoff that Disney could take legal action against Lionsgate.

Quote from: Kiddington on August 12, 2013, 02:00:27 AMOh yeah, and since we're here, I guess it's also worth mentioning... this movie has already inspired it's own crappy knockoff. (http://www.avclub.com/articles/cheap-cars-knockoff-gets-own-cheap-knockoff,101425/)

What can be worse than a knockoff of Planes?

Why, an actual sequel (http://www.slashfilm.com/planes-fire-and-rescue-first-details-and-casting-revealed) to Planes, of course!

I'm pretty sure that it was set from the beginning that there would be a sequel or two to Planes, regardless of how well it does.

Not surprising, really. As long as they keep on bringing in dat toy revenue for Disney.

Does Disney have plans to make Trains, Boats, or Subways?

Quote from: Eddy on September 04, 2013, 01:13:30 AM
Does Disney have plans to make Trains, Boats, or Subways?

It really makes you wonder, doesn't it? The idea of that happening certainly isn't impossible.

I thought it was pretty funny when I was at the movie theater a few months back and overheard a little girl (maybe around 8 years old) saying that "Cars was just a little kids movie. I think Planes is for older kids." :il_hahaha:

Quote from: Eddy on September 04, 2013, 01:13:30 AMDoes Disney have plans to make Trains, Boats, or Subways?

All they have to do now is make Trains and they'll have completed the whole set. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093748)

Still hoping for Tanks!  :awesome:

Quote from: Daikun on September 04, 2013, 06:36:06 PM

Quote from: Eddy on September 04, 2013, 01:13:30 AMDoes Disney have plans to make Trains, Boats, or Subways?

All they have to do now is make Trains and they'll have completed the whole set. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093748)

heh.. Planes, trains and automobiles. Why not, right?

I had to sit through Planes. It ain't for older kids.  :el_hail:

There won't be a Pixar film in 2014. (http://www.cartoonbrew.com/pixar/pixar-shuffles-release-lineup-after-it-delays-the-good-dinosaur-88676.html)

Considering how their 3 latest films haven't been up to their usual gold standard (at least in the critics' eyes), it's probably for the best.

Pixar's Canadian division has closed. (http://pixartimes.com/2013/10/08/pixar-canada-shut-down-today)

Welp. (http://route66news.com/2013/08/17/michael-wallis-says-there-will-be-a-cars-3/)

Told you that Pixar cutting back on sequels was bs.

I knew it.

So what happened? After Up and WALL*E (you can even include Toy Story 3 if you want) proved they have plenty of original stories to tell-not to mention their shorts, so why do they keep going to the sequel well?

I can understand if you're tapped, but from what I've mustered of their original ideas in the pipeline that's clearly not the case. I was fine with Monsters University but after Finding Dory and this I think I've had it. So what's going on?

We have enough remakes and sequels out there, Pixar was the one studio left putting out movies I consistently wanted to see.

Yeah, not great news. Pixar has really fallen, haven't they.  :imnothappy:

Glad to know they are making a third film. I was seriously itching to see the next story in the great Cars saga.

But in a change of pace, who else is going to catch the Toy Story of Terror special tonight?

Disney REALLY seems to want me to catch it, and I probably won't have much better to do at 8 PM, so I'll give it a go.

Yeah, I'm going to end up watching Toy Story of Terror, since I don't recall what I normally watch on Wednesday at 8.

Well.. can't say I'm too surprised at Cars 3 getting made, I think they're trying to make it their Transformers or HotWheels or something like that. I eagerly await the sequel to Ratatouille, now that's a film that needs a sequel badly.  :sly: :happytime: Million dollar idea here Pixar, free for the taking.

Quote from: Daxdiv on October 16, 2013, 03:37:05 PMI eagerly await the sequel to Ratatouille, now that's a film that needs a sequel badly.  :sly: :happytime: Million dollar idea here Pixar, free for the taking.

Frankly, I think Wall-E could use a prequel.

Well this is great. (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mattbellassai/every-pixar-movie-summarized-in-terrible-microsoft-paint-dra)

Quote from: Avaitor on November 15, 2013, 01:18:16 PM
Well this is great. (http://www.buzzfeed.com/mattbellassai/every-pixar-movie-summarized-in-terrible-microsoft-paint-dra)

That was good for a laugh. My favorite one was the Toy Story 1 and Monster Inc.

I took advantage of black friday to pick up copies of Brave and Monsters U for $10 each.

Now I'll finally get to see Brave! If you want these or The Little Mermaid, now's a good chance for you to pick them up.

I still think Brave is awesome.

I still like it, too.

Well, I finally saw Brave. Man, while I really liked the dynamic of Merida and her mother, the rest of the movie wasn't nearly as strong for me, especially not the comic relief. I'm glad I saw it, but it's not up there among my favorites.

For me, Brave lands smack dab in the middle of the Pixar scale, which in my mind is still enough to put it above 99% of films released nowadays.

Which reminds me, you haven't been keeping up with Disney's stuff, have you, talon?

Quote from: Avaitor on December 06, 2013, 10:22:40 AM
Which reminds me, you haven't been keeping up with Disney's stuff, have you, talon?

Do you mean their recent movies? Not entirely.

Unless you mean rewatching a lot of their previous movies, which I did mention that I was in the process of doing with friends (I remember saying here I'll finally be able to get around to rewatching Dumbo). Though that has been put on hold for a while because of school stuff.

Quote from: talonmalon333 on December 06, 2013, 11:41:41 AM

Quote from: Avaitor on December 06, 2013, 10:22:40 AM
Which reminds me, you haven't been keeping up with Disney's stuff, have you, talon?

Do you mean their recent movies? Not entirely.

Yes. I ask because I'm still curious as to how you think Brave stands up compared to Disney's most recent princess films.

And if you haven't seen them yet, what's stopping you? :P

Quote from: Avaitor on December 06, 2013, 12:43:22 PM

Quote from: talonmalon333 on December 06, 2013, 11:41:41 AM

Quote from: Avaitor on December 06, 2013, 10:22:40 AM
Which reminds me, you haven't been keeping up with Disney's stuff, have you, talon?

Do you mean their recent movies? Not entirely.

Yes. I ask because I'm still curious as to how you think Brave stands up compared to Disney's most recent princess films.

And if you haven't seen them yet, what's stopping you? :P

I just never got around to them. How do you think it compares to them? Once my friends and I get back to watching Disney movies, I'll make them a top priority. :P

Also, as far as Disney princesses in general go, I must say, Merida is one of my top three favorites. Alongside Belle and Giselle (don't care if Disney doesn't consider her a Disney princess).

I haven't seen Monsters University. So ignoring that, this is my list.

1. Toy Story 3
2. Toy Story
3. Toy Story 2
4. Up
5. WALL-E
6. Finding Nemo
7. Brave
8. The Incredibles
9. Monsters, Inc.
10. A Bug's Life
11. Ratatouille
12. Cars
13. Cars 2

I said "smack dab in the middle" earlier, but I didn't actually realize Brave would land exactly in the very center of the list. :P

It's weird, the comic relief is definitely Pixar, but Brave's pacing otherwise has the feel of a Disney movie more than any of their other films had before. I can't help but feel like that was one of the problems Pixar had with Brenda Chapman's direction, and why she parted ways before the film wrapped up.

I can't say that I'd put the movie up there with PATF, Tangled or Frozen, but in terms of concept, it's probably a better film than Monsters University, which I still quite like.

Brave just really clicked for me. The animation is better than ever, first of all. I haven't seen Monsters U which is newer so I can't talk for that one (though I do remember Toy Story 3 having better animation than Cars 2, or maybe it just seemed that way). But Brave seriously looked phenomenal. And I really loved the Scottish Highlands setting. Also, it possibly has my favorite Pixar soundtrack, but that's one that I would really have to look into for each movie to properly decide on. But I like the Scottish music, and I love Julie Fowlis' music.

Some call the story predictable. Maybe, but I still really liked the execution of it, and that's what matters to me. I really liked the dynamic between Merida and her mother. And the Prince has to be the most terrifying Pixar character ever.

Quote from: ShadowGentleman on June 12, 2013, 09:30:18 AM
Let me try. It's been a while since I've seen many of these movies, though.

1. Up
2. Toy Story 3
3. Toy Story 2
4. WALL-E
5. Toy Story
6. Monsters Inc.
7. Ratatouille
8. The Incredibles
9. Finding Nemo
10. A Bug's Life
11. Brave/Cars (it's a tie for me)
12. Cars 2

Saw MU a while back (but I still haven't seen Cars 2:

1. Up
2. Toy Story 3
3. Toy Story
4. Toy Story 2
5. WALL-E
6. Monsters Inc.
7. Ratatouille
8. The Incredibles
9. Finding Nemo
10. Monsters University
11. A Bug's Life
12. Brave
13. Cars

I actually really liked MU, but that's probably because I'm a sucker for underdog stories.:P And I don't think Brave is terrible or anything, I just didn't enjoy it as much as Pixar's other flicks.

Am I literally the only person here that doesn't rank both Cars films dead last (well the original anyway, 2 was garbage)? I dunno, but I just really liked the first one and whenever I watch it again, it still holds up.

I feel like A Bug's Life is one of the weaker offerings, but then again it's also the one I've gone the longest without seeing, so there's also that.

Cars wasn't a bad movie. It just wasn't a good Pixar movie, in my mind. There are certainly things that I liked about it, namely the Doc and Paul Newman's voice acting for him.

Cars 2 is a movie where I don't even know what to say. The entire premise is just absolutely mind boggling.

Cars 2 should've been DTV.

That's how bad it is.

I still haven't seen Cars 2, and I probably never will unless I find it for like $5 and can prove that the DMR code still works. The first isn't terrible, but my problem with it is just how LONG AND SLOW it is. There isn't nearly as many genuinely clever or sweet moments to make up for its time, the pacing is just that poor. I understand how much the franchise means to John Lasseter, and how badly he wants us to be as immersed in his world as he is, but it's hard to get into it when there's so little that's endearing about it.

I like both Cars and Cars 2, but even still they are probably last on my list of Pixar movies.  The only ones that might rank below them are Nemo and Bugs Life, but it depends on the day.

Haven't seen Brave yet.

I still love A Bug's Life, personally. It isn't as emotionally satisfying as a lot of Pixar's other movies, but I think all of the characters are likable and the jokes click better for me than Nemo's or Brave's.

I wouldn't put it at the top of my list, but I still like it better than some.

I always figured they make so many Cars movies (a sequel, a spin-off Planes franchise, the supposed Cars 3, etc.) is because it sells toys.

Quote from: talonmalon333 on December 07, 2013, 06:24:41 PM
I always figured they make so many Cars movies (a sequel, a spin-off Planes franchise, the supposed Cars 3, etc.) is because it sells toys.

why  :whuh:

Quote from: Kiddington on December 07, 2013, 06:30:36 PM

Quote from: talonmalon333 on December 07, 2013, 06:24:41 PM
I always figured they make so many Cars movies (a sequel, a spin-off Planes franchise, the supposed Cars 3, etc.) is because it sells toys.

why  :whuh:

Because Pixar apparently has to do as many needless sequels as possible, apparently. :bleh:

http://route66news.com/2013/08/17/michael-wallis-says-there-will-be-a-cars-3/

Quote from: talonmalon333 on December 07, 2013, 06:24:41 PM
I always figured they make so many Cars movies (a sequel, a spin-off Planes franchise, the supposed Cars 3, etc.) is because it sells toys.

That's pretty much why, yeah.

The thing is, even if movies like Cars 2 or Planes(yes, I've seen it) exist solely to make Disney money, they at least are watchable and somewhat enjoyable.  Dreamworks went on for years trying to make quality films and instead they made movies that were obnoxious Family Guy Lites(coughShrekcoughMadagascarhack).  Aside from how tiring Mater can get, Cars isn't obnoxious, and neither is Cars 2.

Even Despicable Me 2, despite the fact that I liked the first one well enough, was fairly obnoxious.  They are trying to shove those damn annoying minion things down our throat, and I for one find that worse than Cars 2(or 3) and Planes(or 2).  They've even got their own movie in the pipeline.  Yeesh.

Oh, in other Pixar news, I also finally got the first Toy story a few days ago, since Big Lots has the DVD/Blu combo pack for like $8 (the one shaped like a DVD cover, which is why I was on the fence on getting it, but decided "what the hell").

I'm finally building up my Pixar collection!

I tried watching Cars and it just really does nothing for me, the sequel probably won't be worth it since its not as good.

But yep, Up is still at the top of my list. One of my favorite movies.

If it weren't for Toy Story, Up would be my favorite Pixar film. It's just a wonderful movie that captures that same simplistic creativity and magic that Pixar was celebrated for with Toy Story. I also like that the music is done by Michael Giacchino, who also did the music of Lost which has my favorite soundtrack of any TV show.

The Toy Story movies are really a great trilogy, but no matter how many times I see it I still think 3 is still the best one. It's one of those movies that never gets old to me just like my other favorite Pixar movies.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on December 08, 2013, 09:09:53 PM
The Toy Story movies are really a great trilogy, but no matter how many times I see it I still think 3 is still the best one. It's one of those movies that never gets old to me just like my other favorite Pixar movies.

I agree, but I think it's a hairline difference between all three.

Speaking of Toy Story, there's a scene of the original draft of the film which Katzenberg fought for that starred "jerk Woody", and yikes, it's hard to watch. What especially makes it tough is that even though it's a storyboarded sequence which consisted of mostly Pixar staff members voicing the characters, I'm almost positive that they got Tom Hanks to voice Woody for this bit anyway, so it definitely sounds like him insulting Slinky.

If you've heard about what direction Katzenberg wanted to take the film in, I guess you'd be thankful that it didn't happen. And even though Dreamworks films indeed do have more of an "edge" than Pixar's, if that scene is any indication of how the film would have turned out, it seems like he learned his lesson since then.

Toy Story would have been a bad movie if Woody was a jerk. The only reason the first half is watchable is because he's trying to be nice and failing without knowing that he's jealous.

You take that out and the movie would just be unpleasant.

Here's the storyboard scene in question. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOxJpGI8SWc) Watch how John cringes as he introduces it.

The thing is, some of the lines here are pretty good. But if they did end up coming out of Woody's mouth, this would have been a very different movie.

It's a Family Guy cutaway.

Wow.

That is not a movie I would have liked.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on December 09, 2013, 09:20:42 PM
It's a Family Guy cutaway.

Wow.

That is not a movie I would have liked.

Holy shit, you're right. It does feel like something I would see on Family Guy.

Imagine what would have happened if Pixar decided to go with this version, would Pixar still be a thing?

Probably, but not in the same way if they went further into this path.

Or maybe Pixar would have continued to become tired of Kaztenberg's intervening and they'd find some kind of compromise or he'd leave after all. Or I'm not sure.

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Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on December 09, 2013, 09:20:42 PM
It's a Family Guy cutaway.

Wow.

That is not a movie I would have liked.

Holy shit, you're right. It does feel like something I would see on Family Guy.

Imagine what would have happened if Pixar decided to go with this version, would Pixar still be a thing?

Good question. I think when they settles on the final version of Toy Story, they had learned a lot about storytelling as a whole while the movie was going through its many phases, so there's a good chance that if they went with this Pixar would have kept going in this direction.

No Monsters Inc., no Incredibles, no Finding Nemo, no Up, no WALL*E, and most definitely no Toy Story 2 or 3 (or at least far different movies) and even A Bug's Life would have been incredibly different.

I do wonder if it would have been successful back in the mid-90s, though. Obnoxious animated movies didn't do all too well then.

So yeah, there won't be a Pixar movie this year, but we are getting another Toy Story special, this time a Christmas one, as well as a Monsters University short before the new Muppets movie. Like the Toy Story and Cars shorts and specials, a lot of the main cast will come back, including Billy Crystal and John Goodman.

Are Toy Story and Cars their biggest money makers?

Quote from: talonmalon333 on January 18, 2014, 02:31:04 PM
Are Toy Story and Cars their biggest money makers?

Yeah. They're both still selling toys pretty much everywhere today, while you'd have to go to the parks or Disney Stores to find stuff for basically any of their other movies.

Apparently the dinosaur movie they were doing was supposed to be out this year but it got pushed back? Oh well, at least the next film out won't be a sequel.

Yep, this is the first year since 2005 that there won't be a Pixar movie released.

What's their reasoning for not having it out this year?

Quote from: talonmalon333 on February 03, 2014, 03:39:39 PM
What's their reasoning for not having it out this year?

The dinosaur movie was supposed to be out this year but had production problems that pushed it back. So, no Pixar film this year.

Unfortunately, since Pixar movies are the few things I go to see in the theater that aren't adaptions.

Pixar films have been rather below-the-gold-standard recently, so they could probably use the year off. It's for the best.

It'll also be fun to see the Motion Picture Academy panic while their precious Oscar default contender bows out. :sly:

Quote from: Daikun on February 03, 2014, 05:42:45 PM
Pixar films have been rather below-the-gold-standard recently, so they could probably use the year off.

I'd agree if you meant everything other than Brave. That one was great.

Quote from: talonmalon333 on February 03, 2014, 05:58:30 PMI'd agree if you meant everything other than Brave. That one was great.

It was good, but not Pixar gold standard. It really could've been much better.

That depends. What would you qualify as the Pixar gold standard?

Not Cars 2.

In that case, everything is golden standard. Even the first Cars, maybe.

Quote from: Daikun on February 03, 2014, 05:42:45 PM
It'll also be fun to see the Motion Picture Academy panic while their precious Oscar default contender bows out. :sly:

Well don't forget, they didn't even nominated Monsters U this year.

Quote from: Avaitor on February 03, 2014, 07:48:47 PMWell don't forget, they didn't even nominated Monsters U this year.

Interesting. I thought they would do that.

Quote from: talonmalon333 on February 03, 2014, 06:38:30 PMThat depends. What would you qualify as the Pixar gold standard?

Toy Story

This is how it goes for me.

Tier 1 (Golden Standard): Toy Story, Toy Story 3, Toy Story 2, Up
Tier 2: WALL-E, Finding Nemo, Brave, The Incredibles
Tier 3: Monsters Inc., A Bug's Life, Ratatouille
Tier 4: Cars, Cars 2

I'd put Wall-E in the first tier, but other than that, I can agree with those rankings.

And swap Monsters Inc. and Brave around.

WALL-E just barely missed my top tier.

Also, I might be the only person here who doesn't really love Monsters, Inc. It's a creative movie with creative characters, but I just don't think it's as strong as some of the others.

Remember when they were doing 3D re-releases of past Disney movies? Apparently The Incredibles and Ratatouille are in the works. (http://www.screendaily.com/news/incredibles-3d-in-the-works/5068659.article?blocktitle=LATEST-FILM-NEWS&contentID=40562)

Okay, but I would've kept The Little Mermaid's release out first as planned. Lion King and Beauty and the Beast's releases did better than Nemo and Monsters, Inc's, so I don't think those are the movies people want to go see in theaters again. Although to be fair, The Incredibles would look pretty cool in 3D, and they've been talking about Ratatouille for a while.

Speaking of The Incredibles, I was recently thinking of something that's weird, but for me kind of true.

The Incredibles is, in my opinion, one of the best superhero movies of all time. It's just not something one would typically think of.

Speaking of The Incredibles even more, here. (http://www.insidethemagic.net/headlines/cars-3-and-the-incredibles-2-announced-as-pixar-sequels-at-walt-disney-shareholders-meeting-star-wars-episode-7-timeframe-revealed/)

:shakeshakeshake:

Quote from: Avaitor on March 18, 2014, 01:23:29 PM
Speaking of The Incredibles even more, here. (http://www.insidethemagic.net/headlines/cars-3-and-the-incredibles-2-announced-as-pixar-sequels-at-walt-disney-shareholders-meeting-star-wars-episode-7-timeframe-revealed/)

Wow. No, seriously..........wow. I was starting to think it'd never happen.

Bleh to Cars 3 though. C'mon guys just let that one die already, you're killing your reputation here. I know financially it's the smart play (really how DID this become Pixar's most lucrative franchise anyway?), but still.

Brad Bird is back.

Okay, now you can stop with Pixar sequels. That's all I wanted.

Quote from: Kiddington on January 29, 2013, 11:57:09 PM
Yeah, it's... bad. Really, really bad.

Say what you want about Finding Nemo, or hell even Brave... they've got NOTHING on this.

You think Finding Nemo is bad? :srs:

Well, it's not that good.

Quote from: Avaitor on March 18, 2014, 01:23:29 PM
Speaking of The Incredibles even more, here. (http://www.insidethemagic.net/headlines/cars-3-and-the-incredibles-2-announced-as-pixar-sequels-at-walt-disney-shareholders-meeting-star-wars-episode-7-timeframe-revealed/)

Yes! YES! Brad Bird on The Incredibles 2!! I heard the news a few minutes ago but I didn't know he would return. This is the only Pixar sequel that needs to be made. The ending of The Incredibles made that too obvious. I just hope both kids aren't teenagers in the sequel. That could be annoying.

You're right, Finding Nemo is great and easily one of Pixar's greatest films.

Oh good. The Incredibles is a movie I actually would like seeing a sequel too, if only to expand on the world presented in the first film and go even further with the characters. With Brad Bird on board, I have confidence that it'll turn out just as good as the first.

As for Cars 3...well, merchandising and whatnot I guess. I can't say I'm surprised, but I really wish Pixar would stop with all these sequels in general, especially merit-less ones like this and Finding Dory that seem made simply to rake in the dough.

If Finding Dory has a mass selfie, I'm going to have to punch someone in the face. Seriously, Finding Nemo ended just fine. There's no need for a sequel at all. I remember when Pixar used to be about new movie properties and not, "Hmm, what sequel is next?"

I haven't been big on their sequelizing everything, either. I didn't mind the Monster's Inc. prequel and finishing off the Toy Story trilogy, but only The Incredibles really called for a sequel of any of their movies.

And to think, everyone was going on about how Cars 2 was a disappointment and how there wouldn't be a third one. Yet here we are with a third one coming.

On the plus side, their originals will probably be good.

What new originals have been announced?

Inside Out, which will be out next year, sounds interesting to me. The Good Dinosaur doesn't seem fresh from the plot summary, but with Pixar execution is everything so I think it'll be a good film too.

At least we'll have two Pixar originals in a row before we get to those sequels. Since they are taking this year off, I expect IO and GD to be much better done than their last few were, at least.

New Pixar sequels, eh?

Yippee...?

Quote from: talonmalon333 on March 20, 2014, 06:29:41 PMNew Pixar sequels, eh?

Yippee...?

Eh, we're getting the only one that matters. Whatever.

Quote from: Daikun on March 20, 2014, 07:15:44 PM

Quote from: talonmalon333 on March 20, 2014, 06:29:41 PMNew Pixar sequels, eh?

Yippee...?

Eh, we're getting the only one that matters. Whatever.

The Incredibles? I suppose it's better than most other sequel ideas, but still, I'd rather they just go back to making 100% new ideas. The story of The Incredibles has already been told.

Quote from: talonmalon333 on March 20, 2014, 07:17:05 PM

Quote from: Daikun on March 20, 2014, 07:15:44 PM

Quote from: talonmalon333 on March 20, 2014, 06:29:41 PMNew Pixar sequels, eh?

Yippee...?

Eh, we're getting the only one that matters. Whatever.

The Incredibles? I suppose it's better than most other sequel ideas, but still, I'd rather they just go back to making 100% new ideas. The story of The Incredibles has already been told.

Are you fucking stupid?

Quote from: gunswordfist on March 20, 2014, 07:39:44 PM

Quote from: talonmalon333 on March 20, 2014, 07:17:05 PM

Quote from: Daikun on March 20, 2014, 07:15:44 PM

Quote from: talonmalon333 on March 20, 2014, 06:29:41 PMNew Pixar sequels, eh?

Yippee...?

Eh, we're getting the only one that matters. Whatever.

The Incredibles? I suppose it's better than most other sequel ideas, but still, I'd rather they just go back to making 100% new ideas. The story of The Incredibles has already been told.

Are you fucking stupid?

How does me being against Pixar becoming a complete sequel pumping machine warrant an insult? :P

I had to insult you for dismissing The Incredibles 2 like that. :lol: But seriously, it's clear that this is pretty much the only Pixar sequel we want. Everyone seems to be on board with what you said, excluding The Incredibles 2.

Quote from: gunswordfist on March 20, 2014, 07:57:53 PM
I had to insult you for dismissing The Incredibles 2 like that. :lol: But seriously, it's clear that this is pretty much the only Pixar sequel we want. Everyone seems to be on board with what you said, excluding The Incredibles 2.

I did say it's better than most Pixar sequel ideas. But I would still prefer having an original film in its place.

Fuck that.

Quote from: talonmalon333 on March 20, 2014, 08:06:53 PM

Quote from: gunswordfist on March 20, 2014, 07:57:53 PM
I had to insult you for dismissing The Incredibles 2 like that. :lol: But seriously, it's clear that this is pretty much the only Pixar sequel we want. Everyone seems to be on board with what you said, excluding The Incredibles 2.

I did say it's better than most Pixar sequel ideas. But I would still prefer having an original film in its place.

So you think it would have been better if Pixar never made Toy Story 2 or 3?

I still need to watch both. (only seen some of 2, barely know what 3 is about)

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 20, 2014, 08:22:36 PM

Quote from: talonmalon333 on March 20, 2014, 08:06:53 PM

Quote from: gunswordfist on March 20, 2014, 07:57:53 PM
I had to insult you for dismissing The Incredibles 2 like that. :lol: But seriously, it's clear that this is pretty much the only Pixar sequel we want. Everyone seems to be on board with what you said, excluding The Incredibles 2.

I did say it's better than most Pixar sequel ideas. But I would still prefer having an original film in its place.

So you think it would have been better if Pixar never made Toy Story 2 or 3?

They came out in a time when sequels weren't happening left and right (Toy Story 3 was right before the sequel overload, also it was hinted at ten years prior). If The Incredibles 2 wasn't happening at a time when 3/4 of the original Pixar movies had confirmed sequels, I wouldn't mind as much.

Quote from: gunswordfist on March 20, 2014, 08:15:39 PM
Fuck that.

Nah. I'm excited for the potential of The Incredibles 2, but I'm tired of Pixar overusing sequels.

Well, personally, I'm not going to let the fact that Finding Dory and Cars 3 exist hamper my enjoyment for the one sequel I actually want.

It's not fair to Brad Bird or the people not involved in those decisions.

Quote from: Avaitor on March 20, 2014, 08:33:42 PM

Quote from: gunswordfist on March 20, 2014, 08:15:39 PM
Fuck that.

Nah. I'm excited for the potential of The Incredibles 2, but I'm tired of Pixar overusing sequels.

I'm specifically referring to The Incredibles 2 being replaced, not Pixar overusing sequels. I've waited too damn long for this. >:(

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 20, 2014, 08:36:01 PM
Well, personally, I'm not going to let the fact that Finding Dory and Cars 3 exist hamper my enjoyment for the one sequel I actually want.

It's not fair to Brad Bird or the people not involved in those decisions.

And this.

At the very least, I'm surprised they only announced this now. You'd think they would've done it earlier due to all the superhero movies being released and doing well these days.

Frozone is back in Incredibles 2! (http://www.inquisitr.com/1192248/samuel-l-jackson-incredibles-2-will-feature-frozone-in-sequel)

And then there's this rumor... (http://www.inquisitr.com/1192314/incredibles-2-could-jack-jack-be-the-villain-in-the-pixar-sequel) :whuh:

That's not so much a rumor as the writer positing a "perhaps they will do this..." scenario.

I would be a bit more leery if I saw an interview with Jason Lee saying he's coming back. I liked him in the first, but bringing him back would bring a tone I'm not sure I want.

Quote from: Daikun on March 30, 2014, 07:08:55 PM
Frozone is back in Incredibles 2! (http://www.inquisitr.com/1192248/samuel-l-jackson-incredibles-2-will-feature-frozone-in-sequel)

And then there's this rumor... (http://www.inquisitr.com/1192314/incredibles-2-could-jack-jack-be-the-villain-in-the-pixar-sequel) :whuh:

Meh, more like a theory. I stopped reading after that part.

Anyway, I'm glad Frozone is returning. I loved watching his powers display at the end of the movie.

Quote from: Cartoon X on March 30, 2014, 07:12:05 PM
That's not so much a rumor as the writer positing a "perhaps they will do this..." scenario.

And this.

It wouldn't be the same without Frozone. In fact, part of me is actually hoping for a prequel movie with Mr. Incredible, Elastigirl, and Frozone before the super hero embargo. But if they have a better idea for a sequel, I'm down.

Oh, speaking of Pixar, I was able to get Cars on Blu free from DMR, and my opinion mostly stays the same. I think the message is nice enough for kids, but wow, is it not that appealing for anyone much older. Maybe if I was a little younger, I would've enjoyed it more, but I'm glad that I didn't have to pay for a copy.

Quote from: Avaitor on March 30, 2014, 09:21:08 PM
It wouldn't be the same without Frozone. In fact, part of me is actually hoping for a prequel movie with Mr. Incredible, Elastigirl, and Frozone before the super hero embargo.

Hopefully they wouldn't add any "new" heroes considering the implications in the first movie as to what happened to them.

I'm sure they could make it work but I'm betting on them making a sequel with more heroes instead. I think the "family of superheroes" is a big appeal of the original.

The Incredibles biggest problem is all 4 family members barely fight alongside each other. It was right before Syndrome caught them and the fight at the end and that was literally it.

Quote from: gunswordfist on March 31, 2014, 06:26:39 PM
The Incredibles biggest problem is all 4 family members barely fight alongside each other. It was right before Syndrome caught them and the fight at the end and that was literally it.

Yeah, that and the battle against the giant robot. I want to see more scenes like those and you can't really get them if you make a movie before the kids were born.

So, I'm betting on the sequel featuring them as a group more.

I'm sure they will be a full on superhero group now while making it clear that they are a family. My favorite scenario is Jack-Jack is about the same age as Dash was in the first and Dash and whatshername are non-annoying teenagers. While the parents are mostly the same.

Trouble a-brewin' for Pixar. (http://www.rotoscopers.com/2014/04/02/have-the-good-dinosaur-and-finding-dory-been-shelved/)

I don't see Finding Dory making its way into development hell. Whatever problems they're facing with it currently will be solved ASAP, as to not let one of their biggest properties lie dead. The Good Dinosaur though... I can see that go the way of Newt.

It was already delayed once, so if the problems really are THAT bad, then it might get the axe. Shame, since it's an original and all.

What's The Good Dinosaur's premise?

Quote from: gunswordfist on April 02, 2014, 06:29:21 PM
What's The Good Dinosaur's premise?

Quote
"The Good Dinosaur” asks the generations-old question: What if the cataclysmic asteroid that forever changed life on Earth actually missed the planet completely and giant dinosaurs never became extinct? The film is a humorous and exciting original story about Arlo, a lively 70-foot-tall teenage Apatosaurus with a big heart. After a traumatic event rattles Arlo’'s tranquil community, he sets out on a quest to restore peace, gaining an unlikely companion along the way - —a young human boy named Spot."

It's not the most unique premise, but I'm sure Pixar could've done some fun things with it and make a good film. Shame it might be canned now.  :-\

I'm still adverse to animated dinosaur films after The Land Before Time and its 5 billion sequels bored me to death.

The original's a classic.  :thinkin:

Quote from: Avaitor on April 02, 2014, 08:53:49 PM
The original's a classic.  :thinkin:

Sure is.

Now if only every kid film starring dinos would stop ripping off its plot.

One of Don Bluth's best. My personal favorite of his.

Pixar releases plot and casting details (http://variety.com/2014/film/news/inside-out-plot-details-pixar-1201192931) for their next film, Inside Out.

Why is Super Meat Boy in a suit?

 :D

Pixar's short to be attached to Inside Out is called Lava.

(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fxy6q6mg.jpg&hash=ea48e18a354b11c002e1b1c551e9e052aa5e1ce8)

QuoteU.S. Release Date: June 19, 2015
Director: James Ford Murphy
Producer: Andrea Warren

Inspired by the isolated beauty of tropical islands and the explosive allure of ocean volcanoes, ?Lava? is a musical love story that takes place over millions of years.

Quote from: Daikun on May 27, 2014, 07:12:28 PMPixar releases plot and casting details (http://variety.com/2014/film/news/inside-out-plot-details-pixar-1201192931) for their next film, Inside Out.

We have a first look at Riley. (http://pixartimes.com/2014/08/26/first-look-at-riley-from-inside-out)

There's also a behind-the-scenes featurette (http://www.disneymoviesanywhere.com/discover/1-screaming-fact-monsters-university) (account required, but it's free).

Now this looks great. Pete Docter directed two of my favorite Pixar films (and one of my all time favorites) so I'm really interested to see where he goes with this one. That it's not a sequel is even more exciting.

Inside Out teaser! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0aEdrSbYH90)

The Good Dinosaur has a new director: Peter Sohn. (https://twitter.com/DisneyPixar/status/524319785983569920)

So they're not scrapping it. That's good.

I'm still missing my Pixar film for this year. I still feel like I missed something in the film world.

Toy Story 4 has been announced. (http://www.toonzone.net/2014/11/toy-story-4-announced-june-2017-john-lasseter-direct/) John Lasseter will be directing it. Release date is expected to be in June 2017.

...I mean, I kind of thought 3 was a good ending point, you know? Like, I can't really see what more they can do with it. But, you know, if they think they've got a good idea, I'm not against another movie. I'll wait out for more info on the plot until I make any further judgement, but I'm reasonably optimistic about this.

I thought 3 made for a perfect ending, but I'm also not so attached to the series that I'd hate to see them do anything with it beyond that. Had this announcement come a few years ago, I would consider it milking the franchise, but since it's 4-years later, and the film would presumably be coming a few years from now, I'd say that it'd be enough of a gap in time from the last film to still feel fresh.

I can see people backlashing at this for messing with their childhood, but people also did that for Toy Story 3, and IMO that was the best one by far.

And suddenly, Finding Dory sounds like the best idea ever to me.

I'm honestly disappointed.

EDIT: I just realized that my Finding Dory joke sort of doesn't make sense in the context of my disappointment. :P

(https://38.media.tumblr.com/49741e39131f23787c3c6a1a5c9d81e8/tumblr_nen8svr2Yr1r6bckgo1_500.png)

Phase 3 announced.

Let it go on record that I would totally watch a Zurg Society movie if it were real. But as far as fake line-ups go, how do we get new Cars and Brave movies but no sequel to Up. That's just stupid.

While I could see more sequels for Cars and Brave "work" (the former just exists to sell toys anyway and the latter has some potential to expand upon), as far as Up goes...I'd rather they never give it one. I just don't think a sequel could really add anything to it.

You really aren't good at telling when someone's being serious or not, CX. You're just like Talon. :>

When have I done that? :imnothappy:

You mean misinterpret when I was being sarcastic or joking around as opposed to saying something seriously? Let's see, where are all of those old TV.com discussion threads?....

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 06, 2014, 09:47:36 PM
You mean misinterpret when I was being sarcastic or joking around as opposed to saying something seriously? Let's see, where are all of those old TV.com discussion threads?....

I see you had to go back many, many years to find an example. Bravo. :sly:

No, there are examples here, as well. I just find your TV.com levels of cluelessness to be in an entirely different league of hilarious.

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 06, 2014, 10:15:57 PM
No, there are examples here, as well. I just find your TV.com levels of cluelessness to be in an entirely different league of hilarious.

What's that say about your response when I made fun of Sonic Adventure a while ago? :sly:

You mean when you claimed that I called SA one of the best games ever yet failed to provide any actual evidence of me ever having said that? :humhumhum:

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 06, 2014, 10:22:58 PM
You mean when you claimed that I called SA one of the best games ever yet failed to provide any actual evidence of me ever having said that? :humhumhum:

I dunnoooooo, man. That's not how I remember it going down... :blush:

i remember.

I'd be up for Down, where Carl dies, so Russell and Dug have to deal with his grief.

Quote from: Avaitor on November 06, 2014, 08:51:38 PM
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Phase 3 announced.

Now that was clever.

Seriously, though. I don't understand the sequel binge Pixar has been on recently. Their originals are usually highly received and do well enough at the box office. I really hope Inside Out is as good as Pete Docter's other films and really gets audiences going. We need more originals again.

Pixar's second Toy Story short premieres tonight on ABC.

I really liked last year's special, so I'm definitely checking this one out.

New Inside Out trailer. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MC3XuMvsDI)

Looks cute. But trailers never really capture Pixar's films at their best.

Tonight my campus brought a big screen up and gave us the option to vote between watching The Little Mermaid, The Incredibles, or Brave. I didn't find out about this until a week ago, so I missed the voting, but my choice, the middle, won.

It's always fun to see, although I wish they didn't use an old rip of it. I still want to watch it in HD. But it was still a good experience, even with some wind and mild drizzling. I didn't notice the shots gag until now, in fact. :sweat:

Man, I'm so glad that movie is finally getting a sequel. I still like it quite a lot and it is one of my favorite Pixar films.

Apparently Toy Story 4 is going to be a "romantic comedy" and a "separate story" from the original trilogy. (http://www.eonline.com/news/632609/toy-story-4-will-be-a-romantic-comedy-and-a-separate-story-from-original-trilogy?cmpid=tweol-manual)

Whaa...I assumed the series was through, at least for the forseeable future. This also reminds me that I've never seen 3 and I've watched like a total of 20 minutes of 2.

3 is the best one. I quite enjoy the first two, but the third just eclipsed them in every way.

That makes me want to watch all 3 in order now.

Quote from: Cartoon X on March 05, 2015, 06:08:49 PM
Apparently Toy Story 4 is going to be a "romantic comedy" and a "separate story" from the original trilogy. (http://www.eonline.com/news/632609/toy-story-4-will-be-a-romantic-comedy-and-a-separate-story-from-original-trilogy?cmpid=tweol-manual)

As long as it's where Rex and Hamm reveal their true feelings to each other, I'll be fine.

Wonder what they mean "separate story".

The Good Dinosaur teaser. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lsIrASLD-Q)

Wait, it's coming out THIS year? The same year as Inside Out?

That's quite odd. But I guess that year without a Pixar movie positively affected it. Not only do we get two new Pixar movies, but they're both originals.

The Good Dinosaur was supposed to be last year's Pixar outing, but they felt like they didn't have an ending that satisfied them and this was coming hot off the heels of Pixar sequels that kinda put a dent on their reputation for making great movies. Still hyped to see this and Inside Out.

Yep, two Pixars, no WDAS feature.

Don't expect this to be a regular occurrence. We're also going to get the teaser for Zootopia during Inside Out, btw.

Both of these look really promising, so I hope they mark a return to form for Pixar. Can't wait to see 'em!

The Good Dinosaur had a near-complete recasting. (http://www.ew.com/article/2015/06/12/good-dinosaur-voice-cast-2015)

As crazy as it sounds, this seems like a good thing to me. Pixar is really dedicated to making sure their overhaul of the film fits, right down to the voice actors, which seems promising. And hey, Pixar has rarely missed when it comes to VAs.

Let's just hope that this doesn't delay production too much.

Quote from: Cartoon X on June 04, 2015, 01:55:37 PM
Both of these look really promising, so I hope they mark a return to form for Pixar. Can't wait to see 'em!

I wouldn't say they've ever really fallen out of form, if that makes sense.

98%, and according to everyone I know who went to an early showing, the reviews aren't just for show. This really is their best film since Toy Story 3.

If anyone could wash away the taste of their last few mediocre films (and let's face it, if you take away Mike and Sulley, there really isn't much of anything to Monsters U), it's Pete Docter. I can't wait til I get to go.

As I've said many times, Up is one of my favorite films, so I'm really anticipating this. Glad to hear that Pete Docter hits it out of the park again.

Shame I probably won't get to see this until next week.

I still don't know why Brave gets such mediocre reception. Being a middle tier Pixar movie is nothing to be ashamed of.

For every person that found Brave mediocre, there are nearly as many people who think that it flat-out sucks. And considerably less people who like it a lot.

I've never seen a Pixar, or even a Disney movie as a whole, more divided than Brave.

Not even the Cars films?

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 19, 2015, 03:17:33 PM
Not even the Cars films?

Nah, most people over the age of 8 just simply don't care about them. Brave seems far more divided.

Maybe Frozen kind of is too, but I think a lot of the criticism comes (rightfully) from fatigue over its massive marketing campaign. Give it a few years, and maybe some of its detractors will warm up to it.

Quote from: Avaitor on June 19, 2015, 03:09:45 PM
For every person that found Brave mediocre, there are nearly as many people who think that it flat-out sucks. And considerably less people who like it a lot.

I've never seen a Pixar, or even a Disney movie as a whole, more divided than Brave.

But I still don't know why people think it's mediocre. :P

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 19, 2015, 03:17:33 PM
Not even the Cars films?

Cars isn't all that divided since almost everyone agrees it's the worst Pixar movie, alongside its sequel

I dunno, but I also haven't much of a problem with recent Pixar films. Toy Story 3 is one of their best movies. Brave was decent. I actually really did enjoy Monster's University, my real issue comes with a sequel to Finding Nemo. A movie nobody asked for or needed.

Pete Docter, however, directed the original Monster's Inc. (the movie that put Pixar on the map as more than a one hit wonder), and Up (one of my favorite movies), so I've been anticipating Inside Out for awhile now.

The unknown is The Good Dinosaur. Since it had so many production problems, I'm just hoping they pulled it together again. On the other hand, it's not another sequel, so that's nice.

Quote from: talonmalon333 on June 19, 2015, 03:25:24 PM

Quote from: Avaitor on June 19, 2015, 03:09:45 PM
For every person that found Brave mediocre, there are nearly as many people who think that it flat-out sucks. And considerably less people who like it a lot.

I've never seen a Pixar, or even a Disney movie as a whole, more divided than Brave.

But I still don't know why people think it's mediocre. :P

Well, I've secretly moved from the "Brave is mediocre" to "Brave is bad" camp, but I will say that the mother/daughter dynamic is strong... but probably would have been stronger if there was any incentive to like Merida, at all. I find her annoying and devoid of personality, while the comic relief is among the most juvenile and pointless in a Pixar movie, to the point that it's obvious how compromised the final product is.

I just don't like it very much at all. I mean, Brave has got to be better than Home on the Range, but it's still low-tier for me.

Quote from: talonmalon333 on June 19, 2015, 03:25:24 PMBut I still don't know why people think it's mediocre. :P

Two words: Missed opportunity.

Brave was too small in scope and could've been something bigger than it was advertised as being. The trailers showed a princess going on what would seem like an epic adventure. Instead, we get a repeat of Brother Bear.

So Inside Out was spectacular. Any opinions here from anyone who watched it?

I sadly probably won't get to see it until next week, so if you guys don't mind hiding your spoilers, that would be great.

I'm guessing I'm the only one that likes Cars here.

Quote from: gunswordfist on June 19, 2015, 11:51:13 PM
I'm guessing I'm the only one that likes Cars here.

I actually enjoyed the first movie. Haven't seen the sequel, and don't really plan to in the immediate future.

I believe Chalmers and Daxdiv do like both movies, actually.

The first isn't the worst thing ever, but I'm not really big on it. I'm still holding off on the sequel.

Me either, after what I heard about the movie. I thought the general consensus was that 1 was liked, 2 was shit. Maybe it is outside of this site.

Both seem to be unanimously considered the worst Pixar movies, regardless of whether or not people actually like them.

That makes no sense.

Quote from: gunswordfist on June 20, 2015, 01:47:50 PM
That makes no sense.

How?

I like Cars, not so much Cars 2, though I guess it's not bad.  There's plenty of worse children's movies, even in the last decade, than either of them.

Not sure where I would put Cars in a ranking, probably above Bug's Life and Finding Nemo though.  Even though I hear Brave isn't too good I've still never seen it.

Whoa whoa, I'd never put Cars ahead of Finding Nemo. :wth:

Quote from: talonmalon333 on June 20, 2015, 01:31:03 PM
Both seem to be unanimously considered the worst Pixar movies, regardless of whether or not people actually like them.

I mean, I'm sure people who like Cars probably hate a few other Pixar movies.

Also, I still need to watch A Bug's Life. That feel has always seemed interesting to me.

Cars was a decent, generally enjoyable movie for me. I liked it quite a bit actually. Cars 2? Ehhhhh.....no thanks.

I don't mind Brave, it's not a bad movie at all as far as I'm concerned, and Monsters U was pretty good as well. Frankly, Cars 2 was the only true stinker of the lot; while some of the recent additions were considerably mediocre by Pixar's lofty standards, we'd probably be calling these home runs if they came out of Dreamworks camp (except Cars 2, that was just bad).

.....anyway I can't wait to see Inside Out. Although, it's funny when I look back on it now; wasn't everybody really worried about this movie a year or so ago? I seem to recall reception to it being decidedly mixed over the first couple teasers/trailers.

Quote from: gunswordfist on June 20, 2015, 04:58:49 PM
Whoa whoa, I'd never put Cars ahead of Finding Nemo. :wth:

Quote from: talonmalon333 on June 20, 2015, 01:31:03 PM
Both seem to be unanimously considered the worst Pixar movies, regardless of whether or not people actually like them.

I mean, I'm sure people who like Cars probably hate a few other Pixar movies.

I didn't mean literally everyone considers Cars the worst. So I still don't know what you were confused about. :P

Inside Out might be Pixar's best movie after the Toy Story trilogy and Up, and maybe WALL-E. It's certainly the most relatable one.

There are people who consider A Bug's Life Pixar's worst.

Their most superfluous, maybe. But I still rather enjoy it.

It looks like a lot of fun to me. If it's half as good as I think it is then Pixar's portfolio is a lot stronger than a lot of people claim it is.

Quote from: Avaitor on June 21, 2015, 12:51:34 AM
There are people who consider A Bug's Life Pixar's worst.

Their most superfluous, maybe. But I still rather enjoy it.

To me, it almost seems like many people just don't remember that movie, rather than disliking it.

I do like it, too. It's not great or anything. But it's good. I like every Pixar movie other than the Cars franchise.

Quote from: gunswordfist on June 21, 2015, 01:43:04 AM
It looks like a lot of fun to me. If it's half as good as I think it is then Pixar's portfolio is a lot stronger than a lot of people claim it is.

I thought pretty much everyone considered Pixar one of the greatest animated film studios.

From what I hear, it seems like a lot of people think Pixar has a few duds, despite how great they are.

No one, at least no one who has ran for as long as Pixar has, holds a perfect track record.

Pixar's track record is excellent considering how long they've been around. If people dog them at times, it might only be because they want them to live up to what they do best. I don't think Cars 2 is what they do best.

Quote from: Avaitor on June 21, 2015, 12:51:34 AM
There are people who consider A Bug's Life Pixar's worst.

Their most superfluous, maybe. But I still rather enjoy it.

The argument I've seen is that there may only be kids who think Cars (or Cars 2) are their best movies, but almost no one thinks A Bug's Life is the best Pixar movie.

Now, of course, I can't answer to that, but I have never met anyone who considers it their best movie.

I don't think there is anyone who likes A Bug's Life best, either.

It wouldn't make my top 5, but I do like it more than a couple of their "bigger" films, at least.

Inside Out is Pixar's best original opening. (https://time.com/3930289/pixar-inside-out-record-open/)

Now this news should unseat sequel fever, but I expect them to double down for no reason. Because you see, it wasn't #1! Let's ignore common sense and see that they were up against Jurassic World AND STILL MANAGED THEIR BIGGEST OPENING EVER (outside of Toy Story 3), but it isn't enough to stop cranking out sequels nobody wanted outside of the Incredibles.

Inside Out was a fun flick. Really enjoyed the character dynamics with Sadness and Joy, well them and Bing Bong. I think I understand how the memory cores works & how the main plot point happened.

Quote from: Avaitor on June 22, 2015, 03:05:43 PM
I don't think there is anyone who likes A Bug's Life best, either.

It wouldn't make my top 5, but I do like it more than a couple of their "bigger" films, at least.

A Bug's Life is low my list of favorite Pixar flicks. In fact, most people I talk to do have it above both Cars flicks, maybe Brave as well. I never really prodded about that kinda stuff.

Spoiler

This movie gave me more feels for an imaginary friend than Foster's ever could.

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Quote from: Avaitor on June 22, 2015, 10:37:02 PM

Spoiler

This movie gave me more feels for an imaginary friend than Foster's ever could.

[close]

Spoiler

RIP Bing Bong! They say Richard Kind cried when he recorded "Take her to the Moon for me, OK?" line.

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The only area where Pixar has somewhat faltered is that they've started to rely a bit too much on sequels. In that sense, Inside Out is something very special.

Well, 2015 is not only the first year with two Pixar movies, they're also both originals.

I hope they both do well so we can hopefully get less sequels in the future.

I finally got to see Inside Out and I thought it was incredible. The film deserves every bit of accolade and success it gets for absolutely nailing the concept and story in the process. Pete Docter knocks another one out of the park.

I'd have to see it again, but it definitely will rank near the top of any Pixar list I make.

I'm going to chime in and say that Inside Out is awesome and you should see it right now.

On a side note, what did you guys think of the short "Lava" anyway. I thought it was cute for one.

I...was not a fan. It was based around a pretty bad pun, and the singing and story were just too corny for my taste. The visual effects and animation were great though. If there was no singing or music, I'd probably had liked it much better. 

Yeah, it was cute. Simplistic and not a lot to it, but it was animated pretty well. Not one of my favorites, honestly, but it was a fine little short.

The Blue Umbrella, La Luna, Day & Night, Presto, For the Birds, and Geri's Game, are still my favorites overall.

It reminded me of the Volvic water commercials. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DppL5WtEW5c)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHArCl_fPm0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHArCl_fPm0)

It would probably be better if the pun actually worked.

Or if volcanoes actually worked like that.

I imagine that "Lava you" would be hard to translate into languages. I'm kinda curious to see another language if only to see how it would work in there.

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New trailer for The Good Dinosaur! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-RgquKVTPE)

Looking good. I hope they worked out their issues with the second half of the movie.

So you guys have heard that Toy Story 4 was going to be a love story, right? This is the love story in particular. (https://twitter.com/GMA/status/632169680111857664)

Interesting. This could have easily done just as well for a short or special, rather than a full movie, but surprise me, Pixar.

Um... Bo Peep was gone before Toy Story 3. :whuh:

Unless this is a prequel (or Bonnie just happens to have her, which would seem rather contrived), I don't see how this would work.

I'm pretty sure that they're going to find Bo. Not sure where, but it seems like Pixar has their story down.

Personally, I'm not that interested in finding out what happened to her, though. I'm more interested into why Jessie and Buzz hooked up, tbh.

I still want my Rex and Hamm movie.

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Coco is their long-delayed Day of the Dead film. I'd like to assume that the amount of time it's taken for the film to make it since its initial rumblings were being spent on research.

But I won't lie, it's a little disheartening to see one original film in between four sequels. But hey, Incredibles 2, right?

Incredibles 2 is the only sequel I'm interested in, but yes, I have hope for Coco especially since Lee Unkrich's last film was so great.

I still wish they would consider changing Toy Story 4's title. Give it a subtitle instead. There's no way they're going to be able to advance the story as much as 2 and 3 already did. I can't see it being anything but a movie-length short.

While we're at it, here's some info on Finding Dory. (http://www.slashfilm.com/finding-dory-d23/)

That was . . . almost exactly what I expected it to be.

After WALL*E, I was hoping his next directing job would be slightly more ambitious than this.

Um... (https://twitter.com/devincf/status/632346647935119360) ???

Quote from: Daikun on August 14, 2015, 09:26:44 PM
Um... (https://twitter.com/devincf/status/632346647935119360) ???

Huh, lol

Quote from: Avaitor on August 14, 2015, 09:06:32 PMCoco is their long-delayed Day of the Dead film. I'd like to assume that the amount of time it's taken for the film to make it since its initial rumblings were being spent on research.

I thought they were holding back so they wouldn't be confused with The Book of Life.

Also... Coco is the best title they could come up with? Really?

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After Inside Out, you'd think they would recognize that we don't need anymore sequels.

Well, these have all been in production for a while, and they're each bound to make a buttload of money. I do think (or really, hope) that Pixar will slow down on the sequels after this slate, especially if The Good Dinosaur is another megahit.

Quote from: talonmalon333 on August 16, 2015, 04:12:59 PM
After Inside Out, you'd think they would recognize that we don't need anymore sequels.

To be fair, we knew this when they were first announced back around WALL*E and Up. It's not exactly clear why they got stuck in sequel glut while Lasseter got Disney out of it not long before.

Only Cars 2 sucked. Toy Story 2 and 3 were good. If anyone can make sequels work, it's Pixar. I don't get this bawlfest over them doing sequels to some of their movies. As long as they're different stories and are good, that's all that should matter.

And I thought Monsters University was way better than Brave.

My problem is that I don't want a Toy Story 4, Finding Dory, or Cars 3, when we could be having a new original by John Lasseter and Andrew Stanton instead. Just imagining if they got Pete Docter to make Monsters University instead of Inside Out was enough to make me wonder what else we could be missing out on from them that might be as good as that film is.

Of course these movies could be good or even great, but Pixar's strength has always been their originals. Only the Toy Story sequels have stacked up to the original of their sequels, and that series came to a logical endpoint with Toy Story 3. Other than The Incredibles 2, which Brad Bird initiated on his own from an idea he had, I'm just not excited for these sequels.

It would be like if Disney listed their next releases as: Wreck-It-Ralph 2, Frozen 2, Gigantic, Big Hero Six 2, Tangled 2. They might be good films, but there wouldn't be much to look forward to or anticipate.

Finding Dory is really more of a spin-off movie. Having sequels didn't keep us from getting Inside Out or The Good Dinosaur, and they won't block originals in the future either. Pixar knows they'll need to make new IPs, as does Disney. There's plenty to look forward to in a sequel as long it has a new idea to run off of. There's no room for cynicism in my eyes.

Quote from: Peanutbutter on August 17, 2015, 09:38:26 PM
Only Cars 2 sucked.

Well true, but that's also the only Pixar movie that's actually bad (alongside the first movie). And really, did anyone ask for any of the other sequels?

Quote from: talonmalon333 on August 20, 2015, 03:30:04 PM

Quote from: Peanutbutter on August 17, 2015, 09:38:26 PM
Only Cars 2 sucked.

Well true, but that's also the only Pixar movie that's actually bad (alongside the first movie). And really, did anyone ask for any of the other sequels?

Merchandise is the reason Cars has a trilogy. They don't do that great in theater, but they do great everywhere else.

They still remain the only Pixar movies I never saw in theater. Though it's been such a long time that I'm not sure if I saw A Bug's Life in theater or not, those are the only two I willingly skipped. Will most likely be skipping 3 as well.

On the other hand I'll probably end up skipping Toy Story 4 and Finding Dory unless word of mouth is outstanding.

Actual Incredibles 2 info. (http://www.movienewsguide.com/incredibles-2-update-release-date-official-logo-plot-revealed/84761)

Hmm, okay. Wow me, Brad.

Jack-Jack will be a villain? ...Okay. Well, I trust in Brad Bird, so I'm optimistic this will executed well.

I don't know why everyone hates the original Cars so much; I thought it was a cute, emotionally touching movie with some good bits of humor sprinkled in. Like, is it too slow for people? I'll admit that the plot does drag a bit, but I just.....I don't get the hate. I saw it again not too long ago, and it's not that bad.

And for the record, I liked it better than Brave.

I just don't think it really brings anything to the table, its theme has been done many times before (and better), characters are boring, and story is predictable and slow

Never mind about that link. Apparently this doesn't come from a credible site.

Quote from: Avaitor on August 23, 2015, 12:25:20 AM
Never mind about that link. Apparently this doesn't come from a credible site.

With how long it took before Brad Bird could be confidant enough in a script, having Jack-Jack as the villain sounds a bit too random.

Brad Bird only started writing it recently. There's no way he would have the plot solidified that fast.

Nevertheless, I think he could make something like that work.

Here's a video where Lasseter talks about some of the films shown at D23. (http://www.ign.com/videos/2015/08/15/toy-story-4-john-lasseter-interview-d23-expo-2015) And he confirms that Toy Story 4 is a sequel, not a prequel.

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"How did the dinosaurs get extinct?"

So Catholicism and dinosaurs exist in this universe. Okay.

As long as it isn't yet another Land Before Time retread, I'm good.

But I would never turn down a good Catholic theme or two...

Oh, I'm not talking about The Good Dinosaur- I'm becoming more optimistic for that, especially after how much I liked Inside Out. Right now, I'm finally filling out my Pixar gap.

Cars 2 actually has action and some sort of stakes to it, but it's somehow even longer-winded and more dull than the first.

That's amazing.

Oh, I had no idea.

I've still never sat through the entirety of either Cars film. They really do nothing for me at all.

I don't even get why Cars 2 is a spy movie.

It's very bad.

Still hard for me to fathom that they essentially gave Mater his own movie. He's not an endearing character in any way.

New trailer for The Good Dinosaur! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=daFnEiLEx70)

Looks great!

Current release schedule:

Finding Dory: June 17, 2016
Cars 3: June 16, 2017
Coco: November 22, 2017
Toy Story 4: June 15, 2018
The Incredibles 2: June 21, 2019

So it looks like Incredibles 2 was pushed back. It's for the best that Coco is in the middle, since it's an original smack between a bunch of sequels. It'll probably be the first Pixar film that I see in theaters since Good Dinosaur, too.

Oh, wow, thanks for reminding me. It might be a two year gap before I see another Pixar movie in theaters.

Check out a preview of Pixar's next theatrical short, Sanjay's Super Team.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=222ztGhX4SE

Finding Dory trailer is out. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3JNLwlcPBPI)

Still just more of the same.

Given that Finding Nemo is not one of my favorite Pixar films and this looks like retread of my least favorite parts of it, I'll probably be skipping.

The last time I checked, The Good Dinosaur has 79% on RT. And I know a handful of people who have gone to see it, an while most do like it, I haven't seen anyone put the film above too many Pixar films, let alone Inside Out.

I'm not too surprised about its reception. This is what I was expecting- a solid entry into their canon, but hardly a 5-star outing. I'm waiting to go next week, when I'll have a group with me, but I'm still fairly excited.

Wasn't expecting it to top Inside Out in the first place, so I'm not surprised to hear "good but not great" reactions to this. Still very interested in seeing this, and hopefully I'll be able to get to it this weekend while I'm still with family.

Really meager numbers for The Good Dinosaur. (http://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/box-office-the-hunger-games-mockingjay-part-2-fends-off-good-dinosaur-creed/)

Dang. I'm going to see it on Thursday with a group, but I'm not expecting too much. I know a couple of people who really do like the movie, but no one who would consider it one of their best. Still, solid Pixar is at least worth a look.

Meh, I'll wait for this one on DVD. It doesn't really seem like my cup of tea, to be honest, but I could be wrong.

Inside Out was a surprise, though. That one really was an emotional journey on par with Pixar's best efforts.

Pete Docter is 3/3 so far.

I saw it yesterday. Although it's somewhat distressing to see a dent in Pixar's armor, it's understandable why that is. The movie is alright, but it's got a lot of clichés and I would describe it as "manipulative" at times. It feels kind of like the execs' idea of what a "Pixar movie" is. The seeming lack of marketing (Disney must be saving resources to push TFA) doesn't help at all.

And it was a troubled production anyway. Director switched out six months before release, movie delayed by a year and a half, story completely redone...this should be a warning sign to Pixar and to Disney, and I hope they respond to it with something other than forcing Pixar to make more sacrifices to Iger's franchise monster.

Finding Dory comes out this Friday. While you wait, enjoy this Honest Trailer. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFu_26DrLE4)

The reviews have been strong; I think it was at 92%, the last time that I checked. Some are more glowing than others, but the general consensus is that this is among Pixar's stronger sequels.

But I also hear that it is samey to Finding Nemo, so it may not be worth going to if you're not a big fan of it. And I'm not, so I'll probably wait until the Blu goes on sale for Black Friday.

Still love Finding Nemo, so I imagine I'll enjoy this when I get to see it. Not surprised it got good reviews, though other than Cars Pixar is always a critical darling.

Finding Dory was pretty good. I'd say it's among the weaker Pixar sequels (excluding Cars 2), but the emotional center of Dory trying to find her family and learning to have confidence in her abilities was well-done, and pretty much any scene with her as a child was tear-jerking/heartbreaking/heartwarming/the feels. The side characters were a riot too, and there was a lot of creativity in how they moved the characters from one location to another. When this movie was first announced, I was skeptical that they could make a sequel to Finding Nemo that wouldn't just feel like a tired re-tread of it, but they really made it work and stand strong as it's own thing.

The Incredibles 2 will be the last Pixar sequel. (http://collider.com/pixar-sequels)

After Toy Story 3, it was the only one I wanted.

Good to hear. Maybe now they can get back on track.

Yes, great news. I need to catch up. Haven't watch a Pixar movie since....Cars.

The Toy Story sequels and Finding Dory from the sound of it were good, whereas half the people hated Brave which was original.



As long they deliver I don't care if we get sequels or originals. All they have to do is not spread themselves too thin.

I am shocked that Finding Dory is supposed to be good. Has there ever been an unneeded sequel that was actually good before this?

It's worth pointing out that the article only says there are no sequels planned "at the moment," not that they'll never do more in the future. But it's a relief to see that they'll be a couple years of uninterrupted originals from the studio. Pixar can make great sequels as often they can mediocre originals, but I'd definitely prefer to see them keep exploring news ideas and push boundaries in what they're capable of than just re-visiting familiar concepts again.

I don't mind sequels when the world and characters lend themselves to numerous story possibilities tackling different themes. In this regard, Toy Story works in having multiple sequels because the set-up lends itself well to many unique stories featuring the same characters.

But then there are movies like WALL-E and Inside Out which are clearly better as standalone stories, and those are the types of movies that Pixar should not (and thankfully have yet to) sequalize.

The Incredibles 2 and Toy Story 4 have swapped release dates. (http://www.toonzone.net/incredibles-2-toy-story-4-swap-release-dates)

Yep, we'll be getting our Incredibles sequel a year sooner!

That's perfectly okay with me!

Usually when a movie gets pushed back, at least for Pixar it means that they're having story issues with it. That explains why Brave and The Good Dinosaur came out as pretty meh films, and I'm not expecting much better from TS4.

Incredibles 2, however, I am definitely ready for.

Solid news! I think Toy Story 4 will be good, but we've waited looooooooong enough for Incredibles 2!

Incredibles 2 is the sequel I was most looking forward to, so I'm glad they made this change. I think it'll work to both movies' benefit in the end to shuffle their order, since it seems they've got a clearer idea of what they want I2 to be at this point than TS4, and there's more excitement for the former among fans.

The Cars 3 teaser is out.

And it's Pixar's darkest teaser yet. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E4K7JgPJ8-s)

That teaser is a doozy. I'm actually slightly interested in Cars 3, since the concept sounds decent, but wow.

Oh, and I finally got to see Finding Dory the other day. I didn't like it much. The original was already never one of my favorites, and while I liked Dory a bit more here, I just couldn't get into the rest of the characters. Only Hank stands out among the new ones to me, and Dory was kind of terrible to him. Meanwhile, Nemo and Marlin's material is easily among the weakest part of the movie. Their bits add nothing to the story, while Marlin's development from the original is totally erased, and Nemo's a generic brat. And the climax is terrible.

The animation is great, and it has a few good jokes, but I can't recommend it that much, especially if you're not a big fan of the original like me.

Coco's cast and plot details revealed. (http://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/pixars-coco-reveals-cast-plot-details/ar-AAlcJqn)

Extended Cars 3 trailer. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1eQYk74R1g)

Coco trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNCz4mQzfEI)

I'm definitely interested, but like most Pixar trailers it doesn't really tell me much of anything.

Will Mr. Potato Head be in Toy Story 4?

Don Rickles passed away. (http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2017/04/06/341894518/comedian-don-rickles-merciless-merchant-of-venom-dies-at-90)

According to this, he didn't get to record for Mr. Potato Head (https://www.usatoday.com/story/life/people/2017/04/06/don-rickles-dies-90/100127122/). More reason to not do it, but it's probably too late now.

RIP

So Doc Hudson will be in Cars 3 (http://www.darkhorizons.com/how-the-late-paul-newman-returns-for-cars-3/), and they're not recasting.

That's different.

More info on The Incredibles II. (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/new-incredibles-2-toy-story-4-details-revealed-at-d23-1021250)

QuoteBird revealed that Elastigirl, not Mr. Incredible, will be the star of this film, as she will be off adventuring and her husband will be home with the baby. And this time around, Huck Milner will be voicing Dash. Samuel L. Jackson is back as Frozone and Bird reprises his role as Edna Mode.

There won't be a time skip like Toy Story; the film will take place just after the first movie ends. The release date is June 15, 2018.

Also, check out this sweet concept art:

(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn1.thr.com%2Fsites%2Fdefault%2Ffiles%2F2017%2F07%2Fdeu2d_-uaaaiydw_-_embed_2017.jpg&hash=8c39608b7b271e49ceccd9d4571d297309e20935)

Neat! Switching focus could help the story feel fresh and it'd definitely be interesting to see Elastigirl in the spotlight. And that concept art is just beautiful.  :swoon:

We didn't get too many new announcements this D23- the main focus was on what's coming out in the next year. All that I've found about Toy Story 4, for instance, is that Lasseter stepped down as director.

However, they did announce a new currently untitled suburban film (http://variety.com/2017/film/news/pixar-disney-untitled-suburban-fantasy-world-unicorns-d23-1202496455/). The concept is kinda samey, but still interesting. Frankly, I'm just happy to see them still work on original movies. But still, I hope this turns out more like Inside Out and Up than The Good Dinosaur.

Makes sense for Incredible 2 to center on Elastigirl since the original was more about Mr. Incredible's journey. If you were to make a sequel without rehashing, that's the way to go about it.

Yay! Another Cars spinoff! (http://screenrant.com/disney-animated-film-space-2019-release) :happytime:

Monsters, Inc. is getting a TV series. (http://www.justjared.com/2017/11/09/star-wars-high-school-musical-monsters-inc-to-get-tv-series-on-disney-streaming-service)

This is the first time any of Pixar's stuff has gotten a full TV show, can't wait to see how Monsters, Inc. does!


Also, very surprised High School Musical didn't get a TV series right after they did the third one.

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/5224227cd59bc7509c117c396e5cdad5/tumblr_inline_oc2dg0kjUG1s0v88t_500.gif)

Quote from: Peanutbutter on November 09, 2017, 11:47:24 PM
This is the first time any of Pixar's stuff has gotten a full TV show, can't wait to see how Monsters, Inc. does!

Nah, there was Buzz Lightyear of Star Command way back when.

Quote from: Avaitor on November 14, 2017, 10:44:21 PM

Quote from: Peanutbutter on November 09, 2017, 11:47:24 PM
This is the first time any of Pixar's stuff has gotten a full TV show, can't wait to see how Monsters, Inc. does!

Nah, there was Buzz Lightyear of Star Command way back when.

I fucking loved that show so much!

Quote from: Avaitor on November 14, 2017, 10:44:21 PM

Quote from: Peanutbutter on November 09, 2017, 11:47:24 PM
This is the first time any of Pixar's stuff has gotten a full TV show, can't wait to see how Monsters, Inc. does!

Nah, there was Buzz Lightyear of Star Command way back when.

True, but that was more a spin off of Buzz and it wasn't the Buzz we knew from the movie but the Buzz he thought he was. It IS a great series though, easily would have fit into the Disney Afternoon perfectly if it was still around when it came out.

Quote from: Peanutbutter on November 15, 2017, 01:29:35 PM

Quote from: Avaitor on November 14, 2017, 10:44:21 PM

Quote from: Peanutbutter on November 09, 2017, 11:47:24 PM
This is the first time any of Pixar's stuff has gotten a full TV show, can't wait to see how Monsters, Inc. does!

Nah, there was Buzz Lightyear of Star Command way back when.

True, but that was more a spin off of Buzz and it wasn't the Buzz we knew from the movie but the Buzz he thought he was. It IS a great series though, easily would have fit into the Disney Afternoon perfectly if it was still around when it came out.

That's fair, but at the same time, what do we really know about the Monsters show? Mike and Sully might not even be involved for all we know.

That's possible, but I have a feeling they would have said that right in the first press release.

Incredibles 2 teaser! (https://twitter.com/Disney/status/931910896279945218)

Well, shit. (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/john-lasseters-pattern-alleged-misconduct-detailed-by-disney-pixar-insiders-1059594)

I TOLD YOU TO KEEP IN YOUR PANTS!

Quote from: Daikun on November 21, 2017, 04:06:40 PM
Well, shit. (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/john-lasseters-pattern-alleged-misconduct-detailed-by-disney-pixar-insiders-1059594)

Came here for this. SMH.

Quote from: Daxdiv on November 21, 2017, 05:37:47 PM
I TOLD YOU TO KEEP IN YOUR PANTS!

Sorry, I just can't do that!

~Hollywood

I gotta admit, this one really surprised me. I would have honestly suspected Iger before Lasseter.

But shit.

Definitely a huge disappointment.....really hope Pixar doesn't dip in quality because of this.

Over the past few days, I got around to Cars 3 and Coco.

Cars 3 was nice, but hardly essential, just like the first. The film wisely returns the focus to Lightning, while only occasionally giving Mater stuff to do, and while the side characters are similarly decent, there just isn't much here that stands out. I wouldn't even call the animation that much of an improvement over the last one, which for all of its problems, still looks pretty damn good. If you ask me, there just isn't much to these movies.

Coco I did like a lot more, but I'd be lying if I agreed with the mentality that this is one of Pixar's greats. The main problem for me comes to the surprising lack of strong characterizations. Pixar's strong suit has always been their ability to make even the smallest rent character lovable and iconic, but very few members of the cast stick out. Miguel in particular is a generic protagonist, all but missing his own "I want" song. On top of that, the story tricks that Lasseter and co have been recycling for decades- the buddy comedy pairing, easy to call twist, sob factor during the climax- is really starting to feel old. I'm seeing some call it their best movie in a decade, when hello, there's Wall-E, Up, and Toy Story 3, each of which run laps around this one.

But hey, when it's good, it's pretty darn good, and unbelievably pretty. More than enough of the film works for me to call it their best since Inside Out, but even that is a lot stronger and employs its tropes better IMO.

We're getting a full, proper trailer for The Incredibles II on Wednesday. (https://twitter.com/TheAnimationBoy/status/961995893582057473)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yRspaPE3Mgg

I guess Bob doesn't like Common Core.

It looks like I2's new villain has been teased.

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DamHDouWkAEm4V_.jpg)

Here's the trailer! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i5qOzqD9Rms)

Here's a pretty damning article on Lasseter (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/he-who-not-be-named-can-john-lasseter-ever-return-disney-1105297). It doesn't surprise me that he's really so bad, but I'm a little shocked to find out how much credit he seems to have stolen. No wonder Cars always seemed so derivative and compromised!

Also explains the problems surrounding Brave and The Good Dinosaur. Simply put, they should have canned the guy when the first set of complaints came in. God forbid they try to find someone to replace him.

Lasseter will leave Disney by the end of the year (https://variety.com/2018/film/news/disney-john-lasseter-harassment-bob-iger-1202734060/) Rumor has it that his replacements are gonna be  Jennifer Lee for the Disney Animation Division & Pete Docter for Pixar.

Pete Docter and Jennifer Lee will succeed Lasseter following his departure. (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/pete-docter-jennifer-lee-lead-pixar-disney-animation-1121432)

Phew, was hoping it'd be Docter.....

Ed Catmull is retiring in July 2019. (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/pixar-founder-ed-catmull-retire-1154569)

Toy Story 4 teaser (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDXYRzerjzU)

Their next film is called Onward. (https://deadline.com/2018/12/onward-pixar-movie-chris-pratt-tom-holland-julia-louis-dreyfus-octavia-spencer-cast-1202518598)

Lasseter is moving from Pixar to Skydance Animation. (https://deadline.com/2019/01/john-lasseter-skydance-animation-hire-fomer-pixar-founder-1202532167)

Yeah, I've never heard of them, either. :??:

SparkShorts (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J20kmqY28KI)

New shorts every Monday starting February 4.

Lee Unkrich has left Pixar. (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/coco-director-lee-unkrich-leaving-pixar-25-years-1177411)

Pixar's first SparkShort is now up--Purl by Kristen Lester.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6uuIHpFkuo

New short: Smash and Grab by Brian Larsen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A4-G7YpSFb4

New (hand-drawn!) short: Kitbull by Rosana Sullivan

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZS5cgybKcI

Soul trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TojlZYqPUo)

Also, three new SparkShorts are coming to Disney+ (https://www.cnet.com/news/disney-plus-will-have-six-pixar-shorts-at-launch)

Before Onward premieres in theaters, instead of the usual Pixar short, there will be...a Simpsons short. :whuh:

https://twitter.com/TheSimpsons/status/1233436952508223489

So looks like their latest film, Turning Red is going to be the 3rd Pixar film in a row that's going to be a Disney Plus Exclusive. I do wonder how miffed Pixar staffers are at this news, since I recalled that they weren't too happy with Luca being a D+ exclusive even after a time when theaters were starting to open up.

Obviously the pandemic, particularly the omicron variant, played a part in this, but I wonder if Encanto's
recent performance is also responsible. It wasn't quite blowing up the box-office, but it's caught on a lot more ever since it went to Disney+.

But also, I have to wonder how much Disney is actually making from these movies streaming. Are theatrical releases just becoming more costly if they're not guaranteed money makers like super hero flicks?

Well I saw Lightyear & thought the film was pretty average. It didn't feel like a Pixar movie and more like an MCU origin story. For something that was supposed to be a movie from the 90's, it didn't feel like a 90's movie. I will say that I did like the animation & cast. Sox was the best character though, I went from "I want to punt him like a football" to "You know what, this cat is all right. I want to protect him" Still not their worst film.

I forgot to mention that I went to see a free preview of this last Monday and I thought it was alright. Sox is the breakout character and has most of the best moments, but I do think that the twist is pretty damn stupid and it doesn't do much to justify its existence.

I don't agree with those who I've seen call it the worst Pixar film, but I kind of get it. This, more than anything else they've done, feels like content. Even the Cars sequels were clearly passionate projects of Lasseter, no matter how inept they were. It exists because Disney wanted more Toy Story material and I guess someone thought that this idea was better suited for a feature than a Disney+ series.

But I don't think the disappointing box-office entirely reflects that. Most of it has to come from the audience, who at this point must be used to seeing Pixar movies at the convenience of their home. It's cheaper to log into D+ than to take a family of 3 or more to the theater, and kids don't care about the ritual of the big screen. That, and I don't think that Buzz is as popular of a character with this batch of kids. For many, the fourth Toy Story may be their only major entry into the franchise, and he doesn't really do anything in that one.

Yeah, even after divorcing the whole Toy Story elements I still think that Lightyear is pretty mid all things considering.l As long as Good Dinosaur exists, Lightyear isn't bad film. Low bar, I know.

This movie does feel like something you announce at a shareholders' meeting to make them see the dollar signs in their eyes. I don't get the Toy Story fatigue excuse considering how long it was since the final film in the series. Hell, the Star Wars fatigue excuse makes more sense when they tried to make it like the MCU & have a movie out every year before Solo flopped and they decided that having shows out on Disney+ is probably a better idea in the long run. If anything I kinda agree with the whole "Wow, Disney kept dumping the last 3-4 Pixar films onto D+. Maybe this is gonna hurt them at the BO a bit" people that thought that this contributed to the under performance of Lightyear.

WALL-E joins the Criterion Collection. (https://twitter.com/Criterion/status/1567899052334874625)

Just when you thought Pixar was cooling down on sequels... (https://www.msn.com/en-us/movies/news/e2-80-98inside-out-2-e2-80-99-coming-in-summer-2024-with-amy-poehler-returning/ar-AA11EWP0)

Inside Out is probably the last Pixar movies I really loved, and I've never really been hot on any of their non-Toy Story or Incredibles sequels, so I'm not crazy about this so far. Losing Mindy Kaling and Bill Hader is also alarming, even if Disgust and Fear were hardly my favorite parts of the first movie.