Post stuff you dislike or don't understand about TV in this topic, including trends, popular yet awful shows, Snooki, and so on.
The reason I started this thread is what is up with all these weird reality shows they have on cable now? Stuff like Pawn Stars and Storage Wars and shit? I just saw an ad for a show about towing cars, and if I'm not mistaken it's not the only one on TV(there's another one called Operation Repo, right?). How is something as mundane as repossessing cars worth enough to make a TV show about it?
Why did people let Unsolved Mysteries die but turned around and watched "reality" like the Jersey Shore?
One of those can actually benefit people!
Unsolved Mysteries did make a brief comeback not all that long ago (2008-ish or so; Dennis Farina was the new host, among other things).
I'm guessing that reboot didn't last. I haven't seen it on in ages.
Despite hating the show myself, I honestly think bitching about Jersey Shore and any other reality show has become overdone. Yes, Snooki is a cunt who does not deserve a single cent that she made from that series. But attacking her will only spread her infamy.
Also, I hate how British sitcoms have entire series that are shorter than most seasons. Know it's due to quality control and a budget, but it just feels wrong having so little of shows like Fawlty Towers to watch.
Is Unsolved Mysteries not on TV anymore at all? I remember watching the show on Lifetime(yeah ha ha) with my mom all the time as a kid. It was a pretty awesome show, and I would like to see it again.
...Remember Supermarket Sweep? Another show that was on Lifetime that we watched a lot.
The original Unsolved Mysteries with Robert Stack hasn't been on TV in a really long time; probably closer to 10 years or so, at least.
The revamped version with Dennis Farina was still on as recently as 2010 (and airing on Spike, no less), but I haven't seen it in a while. Of course, I thought I heard something about the rights going back to Lifetime, so maybe it's on there now. I dunno, I'd have to check.
It's on Lifetime like once a week. Fridays at like 5:30 and that's it. It's such a shame because it really was a good show and it helped a lot of people and families out as well as offering some interesting stories from across the world.
I have a soft spot for Jersey Shore. It's like watching a tanned train wreck. Can't look away.
Besides the lack of good channels I have, I too hate all the family business or whatever shows. So many bad reality shows that I forget what the hell we should be replacing them with. I also hate all of the blow stuff up shows and all the shows about jobs (truckers, oil workers, etc.) Shit, seriously someone tell me what good tv should be like because they made me get lost here.
There's far too many daytime talkshows in the LA area. I thought blocks of court shows were mundane, but after sitting through hours of Anderson/Wendy/Oz/all those other D-tier hosts, I start to wish I could be watching those old UPN dumping ground shows.
I miss soap operas. Nothing like mixing the bombast of theater with the most mundane plots of television to create some absolutely weird stories.
Too bad the genre is on its last legs.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 10, 2012, 03:40:50 PM
I miss soap operas. Nothing like mixing the bombast of theater with the most mundane plots of television to create some absolutely weird stories.
Too bad the genre is on its last legs.
They're still around and thriving as telenovelas and British soaps. Don't even need to learn that much Spanish to get all of it.
Watch any that feature Malillany Marin. She is hot as fuck and always plays a grey-area character. William Levy is also very english friendly since the dude grew up outside Mexico if I remember correctly.
LUCY LIU AS WATSON?!!!!
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME, CBS?!!!!!
:unimpressed:
Quote from: Avaitor on February 28, 2012, 10:13:34 PM
LUCY LIU AS WATSON?!!!!
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME, CBS?!!!!!
House ending, Sherlock's season finale, the RDJ sequel, and now this. Huh.
Quote from: Avaitor on February 28, 2012, 10:13:34 PM
LUCY LIU AS WATSON?!!!!
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME, CBS?!!!!!
Wow.
Quote from: Avaitor on February 28, 2012, 10:13:34 PM
LUCY LIU AS WATSON?!!!!
ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING ME, CBS?!!!!!
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Say what you will about the RDJ movies, at least casting Jude Law as Watson actually, you know,
makes sense. This... this is just...
No words. I simply have no words.
If they want to add some sex-appeal to Sherlock Holmes, they are plenty of femme fatales they can bring in for intrigue or love interests from the original stories. or hell, even make new characters.
There is no reason whatsoever for Watson to be a female.
I hate gender swapping, too. There's really no reason to do this at all.
That said, I'm not really that pissed about it. We've always had Sherlock on the big screen or on TV for ages on end. It's not like a show with a change like this will ruin the mythos in anyway whatsoever.
And at least Lucy Liu's not playing Sherlock.
I don't really have a problem with a female Watson, either. It just came as a humongous shock to me. Especially the part about her being Lucy Liu.
I mean, there's no real reason for them to do this, but hey, the gender swaps in BSG worked really well. I'm willing to give Liu's Watson a chance.
They could have easily called it something else and put Lucy Liu in the main role.
But they'd never do that.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 29, 2012, 07:17:47 PM
They could have easily called it something else and put Lucy Liu in the main role.
But they'd never do that.
They did it when they made Sherlock a doctor played by Hugh Laurie.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on February 29, 2012, 07:19:46 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 29, 2012, 07:17:47 PM
They could have easily called it something else and put Lucy Liu in the main role.
But they'd never do that.
They did it when they made Sherlock a doctor played by Hugh Laurie.
Ugh. Sorry, but...
ugh.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 29, 2012, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on February 29, 2012, 07:19:46 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 29, 2012, 07:17:47 PM
They could have easily called it something else and put Lucy Liu in the main role.
But they'd never do that.
They did it when they made Sherlock a doctor played by Hugh Laurie.
Ugh. Sorry, but... ugh.
Not a House fan?
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on February 29, 2012, 07:28:11 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 29, 2012, 07:25:59 PM
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on February 29, 2012, 07:19:46 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 29, 2012, 07:17:47 PM
They could have easily called it something else and put Lucy Liu in the main role.
But they'd never do that.
They did it when they made Sherlock a doctor played by Hugh Laurie.
Ugh. Sorry, but... ugh.
Not a House fan?
Nothing against Hugh Laurie, or the actual show, but I really can't stand the character. He really grates on my nerves.
The only thing I like about House is that Olivia Wilde got her start from it.
Eh, I like House, though not enough to regularly watch it.
Why is George Lopez still on Nick at Nite?
Everything with George Lopez is automatically terrible by default. Everything.
You know what I still can't believe? TBS actually giving him a talk show. Thankfully that thing is long gone by now (praise Conan for bumping his cushy timeslot), but still, just the thought of it gives me chills. You couldn't ask for a more uncharismatic, downright ear-searingly annoying host than him.
Damn, annoying too? :D
They also refuse to remove his sitcom from Nick @ Nite.
The thing has been there for like 5 years, it's time to go, already.
Is Chris still on?
Yeah, since they took off Malcolm In The Middle they have yet to take off anything else.
I honestly haven't watched Nick@Nite ever since they took off Fresh Prince.
Quote from: Avaitor on March 13, 2012, 06:58:05 PM
I honestly haven't watched Nick@Nite ever since they took off Fresh Prince.
I don't think much else has changed since then. I also barely watch it anymore because it's all the same shows, and they refuse to let anything new in to shake it up.
Also they still air George Lopez way too much. The show that thinks it's some kind of groundbreaking comedy but is really not at all. The show thinks too highly of itself and it's a real pain to watch.
Lopez has his heart in the right place when it comes to social issues, but lord knows the man's idea of comedy is the definition of squeaky clean sanitized jokes. Thought that seems to be a problem with a lot of ethnic comedies. They have to conform to stereotypes to find a bigger audience, otherwise they risk alienating the bigger audience. A sad reality because stuff like Everybody Hates Chris shows that there's definitely room for that kind of comedy.
I enjoyed Everybody Hates Chris. Maybe it's because I like Chris Rock or something but there was something about his family life in that show that felt real and believable for me.
It's probably because everyone on EHC is a character and not a stereotype. As I've said before, compared to Malcolm In The Middle in which every character acts the same in every episode using the same formula, there's just no contest between the two.
Quote from: Avaitor on March 13, 2012, 06:58:05 PM
I honestly haven't watched Nick@Nite ever since they took off Fresh Prince.
Ugh, I believe i remember that change. I used to watch that show like crazy until it became scarce.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 14, 2012, 12:53:41 PM
It's probably because everyone on EHC is a character and not a stereotype. As I've said before, compared to Malcolm In The Middle in which every character acts the same in every episode using the same formula, there's just no contest between the two.
You may be on to something...*strokes beard* :thinkin:
Why does Nick@Nite even still exist? If I were Nick I'd just put my normal stuff on 24/7 like Disney does.
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Why does Nick@Nite even still exist? If I were Nick I'd just put my normal stuff on 24/7 like Disney does.
[/quote]I used to go "OH WHAT IS THIS BLACK AND WHITE STUFF?!!" when I was a kid but now that Nick sucks dick, Nick @ Nite IS the channel to me. I'd have no other reason to tune in to it, well that is if I still had the channel.
I do think that Nick should at least occupy the channel until at least 9 PM again.
I'd also love for them to put on some of the 90's Nick shows on, primarily the ones that The 90's Are All That barely touch. You can watch all of these other shows on syndication, other networks, or on DVD, and it'd cost them nothing to put shows like Clarissa, Pete & Pete or Alex Mack on.
Man, you know, thinking about it, I'd do some major renovations to Nick@Nite.
First of all, it needs more variety. I don't even mean variety in terms of different kinds of shows- as cool as it would be to see something other than sitcoms on the block for a change, that's primarily all the network has been airing since around the mid-90's. The days of catching Dragnet and Alfred Hitchcock repeats alongside classic Lucy and Bewitched eps are long gone. You can still air nothing but sitcoms, but try to air more than the same 3 or 4. Just go back to shows airing on TV Land if you don't want to buy the rights to more shows. And again, you can try some older Nick shows as well.
You don't even need to bring back some classics, but I don't think it'd hurt to try really. Everything that has been airing on the block over the past few years have been syndicated to death over the past few years, which explains the low ratings. Stuff like Bewitched, Taxi, Jeannie, MTM, etc have been ignored for a longer period of time, and could easily gain some viewers who are tired of the same Friends and George Lopez repeats airing all fucking night.
And put some effort back in. Nick@Nite used to have games, contests and specialty marathons all the time. Now they just air Friends for hours on end with no rhyme or reason.
Yeah, I haven't watched the block since Friends mania returned to it. It's all they show now. There are more fitting recent sitcoms that would work like Reba or even one of the TGIF shows. Friends has been aired to death on every channel already, I can't believe everyone isn't sick of it yet.
This scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5Rz1jLV2WI) is everything that's wrong with reality shows in one 30 second clip.
Can someone explain to me why the Teen Wolf show is getting attention? Is there really anything more to it than MTV trying to cash in on the supernatural craze going on?
Can someone explain to me how Dexter has been on for over seven years? There's a concept that makes less sense the longer it lasts.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 18, 2012, 08:54:19 PM
Can someone explain to me how Dexter has been on for over seven years? There's a concept that makes less sense the longer it lasts.
To be fair, LaGuerta, Batista, and Quinn are kind of dumbasses. The only reason he hasn't been caught yet is that Doakes didn't live long enough.
Prepare to kill yourselves. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njtjKYgS49s)
Remember when TLC was The Learning Channel?
Fuck everything.
Fun fact: The mom is 32 and the oldest daughter is 17. That means she gave birth at age 15.
That also happens to be the one who's pregnant.
If only she could've got lucky a year earlier, then we wouldn't have had to wait this long to see them on TV.
Why are people talking about this shit? Turn the fucking tv off, this shit ain't worth it.
Quote from: Comeau on August 09, 2012, 04:31:08 AM
Why are people talking about this shit? Turn the fucking tv off, this shit ain't worth it.
Yeah, go watch this lovely new season of Breaking Bad instead.
Some people really like watching trainwrecks, and for those who do, this shit will continue to be greenlit. I don't approve, but so be it.
I nearly vomited when I saw this clip on Daft's FB.
I am aghast.
Simply aghast.
Let's just read what the AV Club has to say and we can end this discussion. (http://www.avclub.com/articles/here-comes-honey-boo-boo,83569/)
Now if you'll excuse me, I never want to eat a biscuit ever again.
At this rate, I'm surprised there hasn't been a Chris Chan reality show yet.
Quote"If it's cooked right, like at a Hardee's or something"
:wth:
Once again, I am aghast. Simply aghast.
This show is appalling on so many levels.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on August 08, 2012, 10:14:00 PM
Remember when TLC was The Learning Channel?
The what now? I honestly thought it was always a home improvement channel.
Quote from: Avaitor on July 17, 2012, 07:24:08 PM
Can someone explain to me why the Teen Wolf show is getting attention? Is there really anything more to it than MTV trying to cash in on the supernatural craze going on?
Yeah, I still don't get this. The original movie wasn't even good.
I watched an episode. It was basically like a CW show, but more homoerotic. Saul Tigh also made a cameo for some reason.
Doesn't help that it only borrows the film's title and nothing more.
Wow people still watch Friends? Is it that timeless?
Well, it was terrible back then, and it's terrible now, so I guess it's timeless in that regard. :awesome:
Don't seem so surprised; I actually know quite a few people that still legitimately like Friends.
I often wonder if they're somehow vicariously living in the year 1998 and don't realize it (or in reality, how long it's been since they've even seen it), but, it is what it is.
Well, pop music is still stuck in the year 1998, so it only makes sense that TV would have the same issue.
Other than the Jennifer Aniston movies, I did try to watch Web Therapy (Lisa Kudrow) the other day; it resembles those talking heads daytime news shows. Haven't bothered to see what the other Friends are doing. Of course now that I'm reading 20th Century Boys, I have to wonder about Friends.
I just remembered that Saved by the Bell was a show that actually existed.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on August 21, 2012, 04:35:55 PM
I just remembered that Saved by the Bell was a show that actually existed.
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Yeah, this is one of the 90's stables whose appeal is lost on me.
The show still lives on in almost every single live action show on a family channel.
To bring back the Honey Boo-Boo discussion, I just learned that the dad of the middle child is a registered sex offender.
It makes sense. I mean, can you really think fo any other kind of person who'd want to tap this:
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Can we just not talk about Honey Boo Boo? I mean, it's like talking about watching a dog slowly die. It's unpleasant for everyone involved and only the blackest humour can be made from it.
But seriously, Here Comes Honey Boo Boo is the bleakest program shown on television. Even bleaker than The Wire. Even bleaker than most Holocaust documentaries. Even bleaker than the ending to Blake's 7. You feel this combination of pity and scorn when seeing this little girl mutate into an attention whore. The ultimate futility of humanity is portrayed in seeing this girl lose touch with her own identity, simply being known as "Honey Boo Boo".
That's partly why I bring this up. The Honey Boo Boo, or really, the Mama saga, is one of the greatest tragedies of our time and hints towards the upcoming end of the world being a likely possibility.
And really, it's becoming the new One Direction on tumblr- something that you'll find on your dash no matter what kind of blogs you follow. There really needs to be a better male-female ratio on the site.
Well, of course it's being talked about. Who wouldn't want miss the apex of nihilistic drama being played out on basic cable?
Oh, and while I saw the Avengers, they played a commercial for what's bound to be NBC's smash new comedy- Animal Practice
Holy shit this looks horrendous. See for yourself. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eEmQwjeDqCI) This is what happens when NBC tries to "broaden" their comedies.
They aired ads for that during the Olympics. I thought it was pretty stupid. I don't see it passing a 1st season.
Bad. Bad bad bad.
Okay, I guess I've been out of the TV loop for some time now, so who the hell is Honey Boo Boo? I keep seeing the name thrown around and pictures of a white trash family that I guess enters beauty pageants?
Quote from: Eddy on September 01, 2012, 03:17:23 PM
Okay, I guess I've been out of the TV loop for some time now, so who the hell is Honey Boo Boo? I keep seeing the name thrown around and pictures of a white trash family that I guess enters beauty pageants?
Child pageant girl who's been manipulated by her stage parents with steroi--I mean, "GoGo juice". Her mom looks like a talking thumb, and their show is basically today's incarnation of the freak show.
Also, I feel that this talk of bad television needs to be balanced out by recommending everyone to watch The Wire instead.
You know, I just thought about something- it sucks that FX won't find more time for reruns of their own shows. I understand that the network was created as a dumping ground for Fox's stuff, but at this point, aside from premieres and the odd late-night repeats of their show's most recent episodes, all they really air are CBS's shows and movies. The crazy thing is that while they do own some of the movies and HIMYM, they don't own Two and a Half Men, or stuff like Iron Man or Transformers.
And you'd think with originals that have received such critical acclaim and commercial interest as theirs, they would find room to air their shows more regularly. But nope. That's why Sunny repeats went to Comedy Central before they got syndicated, and I wouldn't be surprised if the same thing happens to Archer when it hits 65 episodes.
What are you talking about? I've seen plenty of repeats of Sons of Anarchy.
For the newer episodes, right? Because they don't air older repeats for other shows, like Sunny and Archer.
So for some reason we get Adult Party Cartoon on our Netflix yet we can't seem to get King Of The Hill.
UGH.
That's almost as bad as APC being on DVD, yet the majority of KOTH still isn't.
Granted, APC was only like seven episodes long, so it all fits neatly into one set, but still; it's the principle of the matter.
That's kind apples to oranges though.
A better argument would be that APC came out on DVD about 5 years before Rocko got its release, besides that MOD shit on Amazon.
I'm pretty sure we have both on Netflix. I mean I know we have King, but I'm pretty sure I've seen APC on ours too.
We definitely have the original R&S, aside from the third of the show Nickelodeon disowns (we only got the whole of the show on DVD because John K and Viacom released it separately from Nick), but idk about APC.
It's just annoying that somehow that is a priority to get. I mean we already have American Dad and Family Guy on here, and yet for some reason no KOTH.
I wish there was some way to send suggestions or something, it's taking forever to get the good stuff on here.
The most real analysis of TV. (http://www.cracked.com/video_18485_the-only-8-types-tv-shows-that-get-made.html?wa_user1=1&wa_user2=Movies+%26+TV&wa_user3=video&wa_user4=feature_module)
Am I the only one who's a little saddened to see people appreciate Once Upon a Time, but have no knowledge of Fables?
Are those TV shows? Never heard of them.
Quote from: Comeau on October 22, 2012, 09:00:54 PM
Are those TV shows? Never heard of them.
Fables is a comic book.
Comeau just failed so hard right there.
Uh, sure.
(Never really been a big comic book reader, sorry).
It's all right. No need to give even the slightest of apologies here. Besides, Fables hasn't even been the same since the first major arc ended.
Heh heh, I don't even know what Fables is. All I know is that it's mentioned in a lot of comic book rec lists. I just couldn't pass up bugging you though. :devil:
I've only really read the first couple of GNs for Fables, but it's so much better than OUAT.
I've changed my mind; Mike and Molly is the absolute worst sitcom on TV right now. Even worse than BBT (VERY close, but still is).
...and to think, Melissa McCarthy won an Emmy for this. Over Amy Poehler. And this is why life is unfair.
She can be funny, though. Check out Bridesmaid and see what I mean. But yeah, there's no meat on that show at all.
And it does seem like people are getting that, too, since the show hasn't been anywhere near as popular as it was when it started out.
Even so, her winning an Emmy for this would be pretty much akin to Kelsey Grammer winning an Emmy for Hank (for those that don't remember, Hank was the original lead-in to Modern Family that only lasted like five episodes).
Maybe she is funny; I dunno, I've never really payed any attention to her other stuff. But if she is, it's certainly not on display here. To me, she just comes off as gross, with all of the apparent comedic value being in how much of a glutton she is.
It saddens me to see BBT get more posts in its talkback thread than HIMYM.
Maybe I should stop going on tz.
Do you even do anything as a mod? I presume not because no one ever posts in the music forum.
Shit, even the video game forum is dry as a bone. I was shocked when I looked at it a couple weeks ago and nobody was talking about the new Pokemon game. I figured that would be a hot topic.
I'll be honest with you guys- I haven't been on the mod board in about a year. There isn't much demand for me at all, so I feel bad and bow out.
I can't believe any of you guys even still go there.
Besides Dalek, who's even left at this point? Speedy?
Me and Nel post on the AS/Toonami boards occasionally, but that's about it.
Hell, ever since it triggered my Anti-virus on several occasions I've been particularly weary of going there with my laptop browser.
Quote from: Rynnec on October 27, 2012, 01:52:31 AM
Me and Nel post on the AS/Toonami boards occasionally, but that's about it.
I just really wish I had something better to do on Saturday nights. XD
Quote from: Nel on October 27, 2012, 10:40:58 AM
Quote from: Rynnec on October 27, 2012, 01:52:31 AM
Me and Nel post on the AS/Toonami boards occasionally, but that's about it.
I just really wish I had something better to do on Saturday nights. XD
Go on your podcast? :sly:
My excuse for not being toonzone can be summed up with one video game. You all get 3 guesses and the first 2 don't count.
But I was surprised to see no thread for Black 2 and White 2 on toonzone.
The only reason I even go on ToonZone now is to take some schadenfreude from seeing Wonderfly and Macattack preach their crazed conservative ramblings on Obama being a threat to America.
Meanwhile, Idol is getting a massive makeover. (http://tv.yahoo.com/news/insider-american-idol-axe-4-judges-part-massive-002433699.html)
It's crazy to think that this show has been on for this long, and has only now been taking a major nosedive in the ratings. This will be the first time in nearly a decade that Idol won't be the highest rated show on TV. Go figure.
PBS shares our sentiments on reality TV. (http://insidetv.ew.com/2013/05/28/pbs-fake-subway-ads)
It's sad that the Dillionaire is the most believable show out of the bunch.
So, is Arrow as bad as I suspect?
Quote from: gunswordfist on May 29, 2013, 08:08:13 PM
So, is Arrow as bad as I suspect?
I've heard decent things.
I've been its really good myself. My mom and brother like it. I didn't check it out at first because I wasn't sure how it was going to play out. It didn't help that came shortly after that failed Wonder Woman pilot. But a number of people have said they've enjoyed it, so I'm going to try and watch in reruns.
I mean, it's hard to go down from Smallville.
Quote from: Peanutbutter on May 30, 2013, 04:32:23 PM
I've been its really good myself. My mom and brother like it. I didn't check it out at first because I wasn't sure how it was going to play out. It didn't help that came shortly after that failed Wonder Woman pilot. But a number of people have said they've enjoyed it, so I'm going to try and watch in reruns.
There was a Wonder Woman pilot?
Quote from: Avaitor on May 30, 2013, 04:48:23 PM
I mean, it's hard to go down from Smallville.
Shuddap.
Arrow is pretty decent and Smallville is The fuckin' Dark Knight compared to that Wonder Woman pilot.
Ehhhhh, the most terrible thing I've heard about Smallville is what they did with Lana near the end of the show. Other than that, Smallville was okay when I watched.
So besides that new season/mini-series of 24 that's supposed to air soon, next year, NBC is doing the same for Heroes. I don't know about you, but as one of the many people who got into the first season and instantly felt disappointed with the show as it went on, I can't help but wonder, when looking back, if the show wasn't that good to begin with. Its plot advancements probably feel dated now, and I don't recall really caring about any of the characters even when I was into it.
Although if this is part of the future of TV, I'm curious. I don't care about Heroes anymore and I haven't seen 24, but if we can get a mini-series revival out of Firefly, I'm game.
Hmm, tell me more about this 24 series revival.
Quote from: gunswordfist on February 23, 2014, 05:08:26 PM
Hmm, tell me more about this 24 series revival.
First thing I can find. (http://www.buzzfeed.com/jaimieetkin/the-24-revival-finally-has-a-premiere-date)
I can't think of any other recent plot based series revivals that I've heard of.
24 should have been buried in its first season.
Two and a Half Men was renewed for a 12th season. From what I can recall, this is the first time a live-action sitcom has gone past 11 seasons since Ozzie & Harriet in the fucking 60's.
yep.
Haven't the ratings plummeted? Why is it still getting renewed?
The ratings were plummeting, yes, but CBS pulled a last-minute time slot switch with it and The Crazy Ones (which I actually like, but hasn't been announced for renewal yet), and Men got a bit of a boost back. It's still nowhere near BBT level popularity anymore, but I guess Warner demanded that CBS to try something to get some more syndication money out of the show.
There's no way that Ashton Kutcher and Jon Cryer are gonna be paid as well as they had been, though. I think they were making like twice as much as BBT's group was, which isn't even remotely feasible now.
I guess I just don't understand the popularity the show gets. Every episode is essentially the same thing.
http://blogs.indiewire.com/shadowandact/adult-swim-partners-with-worldstarhiphopcom-on-new-pilot (http://blogs.indiewire.com/shadowandact/adult-swim-partners-with-worldstarhiphopcom-on-new-pilot)
I hear that The Walking Dead season premiere broke some record. If the show is even half as bad as it was when I caught the first 6 or so episodes in a row and THE record (highest rated premiere) was the record they were referring to, then it's safe to say that tv audiences are stupider than ever.
The ratings improve all the time for this show.
Makes me want to slap talon.
In all honesty, a lot of the people whom I know watch the show, especially those who read the comics, do agree that it isn't necessarily great TV, but they like the action and some of the characters enough to stick around.
There are also some people who stick around just for the end game, but I don't think even Kirkland knows how it'll end.
Quote from: Avaitor on October 17, 2014, 02:43:42 AM
In all honesty, a lot of the people whom I know watch the show, especially those who read the comics, do agree that it isn't necessarily great TV, but they like the action and some of the characters enough to stick around.
That's about how it is for me. The show has an intensity to it and atmosphere, and I like the characters to a certain extent. As a whole, though, the show doesn't really stick with me much. I can get engaged with it when it's on, but every time the season ends and I'm away from it, I lose all ounce of attachment to it.
I dunno, count me in as another that just can't get into it. I feel like I'm watching the same thing every episode; like yeah, it's brutal and intense, which I guess makes it entertaining, but.....eh, it's just not for me. I feel like it would've made a great mini-series though.
Speaking of everything being the same, you know what I just noticed today? There's a third NCIS now (with Scott Bakula!). Like I kinda get the appeal to the original (the cast all being quirky as hell, with standard procedural platitudes thrown in), but it's hard to believe this went from being "just another cop show" to its own major franchise. What did I miss in the period that this went from middle of the pack, to the highest rated show on TV? Is it literally any different now than it was 10 years ago?
NCIS is that weird kind of show that is supposed to be insanely popular, but I couldn't tell you anyone I know in real life that actually watches it. And I know that the show's ratings in the 18-49 demo aren't all that impressive, but the people I know outside of it hate procedurals.
And then you compare that to the other big shows on TV- Walking Dead, Big Bang Theory, Game of Thrones, the Shonda Rhimes trifecta (although Grey's is falling into the same exact trajectory that ER did- we're at the phase where less people are watching it each week, but good timing and control from its creator is keeping it around for now)- where I can't tell you how many people I know keep up with them, and NCIS seems like an afterthought.
http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/10/28/syfy/
QuoteSyfy knows they messed up. Now they have a plan to win you back.
The cable network's top executives won't say this in such blunt language, but they acknowledge that somewhere along the line, the network missed an opportunity to have more great scripted dramas.
I always forget that channel still exists. :P
i had to turn after seeing jimmy fallon on stephen colbert. fallon is like the worst late night tv host ever. he is not funny and is one of the main reasons why i liked mad tv more than snl as a kid. his skits are only funny when the rock is onscreen.
the slap. clear overreaction bait. i hope it tanks and i never hear about it again.
Is it safe to say that all ARers hate lip sync battles already?
and nice change, commode.
TV Sucks picked up for Adult Swim. (http://www.toonzone.net/2015/05/adult-swim-upfront-programming-slate-for-2015-16) :sly:
I demand royalties.
A year supply of all the toilet cakes you can chew on then.
Thinking of the disaster that is season 2 of True Detective, I was curious of your thoughts. What are some of the worst second seasons you can think of?
A few I remember include:
Dark Angel: Season 1 was a pretty good action adventure show. Season 2 was Buffy-lite and blew chunks. Shame it got canceled, but it really was lousy.
The OC: Season 1 was a pop culture phenomenon-- it even momentarily made Death Cab For Cutie relevant (like Garden State did for The Shins who were also promptly forgotten) before season 2 sent a wrecking ball to the whole thing. It was amazing how fast this fell apart.
Heroes: I have yet to see beyond one episode of this show, but am assured that it gets stupid really fast after season 1.
Any other examples?
I haven't really seen enough shows, but I could list my least favorite seasons from certain other shows:
Buffy Season 4
Angel Season 4
Dexter Season 6
Boy Meets World Season 2
Monk Season 3 (not bad, but the transition was awkward)
I can also list some of my favorite TV seasons as well:
Breaking Bad Season 4
Game of Thrones Season 2
Boy Meets World Season 4
Buffy Season 2/3
Angel Season 5
Arrow Season 2
Dexter Season 4
Malcolm in the Middle Season 3
I liked the transitional episodes of Monk because they played well into how awkward Monk's life was. On normal shows, it would bug me, but Monk I just dug from start to finish. I do wish they would put it back on Netflix-- I've been wanting to rewatch it for a good while now.
My personal favorites right now are Arrow season 2 and Person of Interest season 3. They just nailed everything in those two.
In terms of shows I've actually finished, I can only really think of the last 1.5 seasons of Battlestar Galactica. They weren't awful by any means, but a lot of the plot developments were very stupid and sometimes even cringe-worthy.
As for favorites, seasons 1-4 of The Wire are perfect television, with each one better than the last.
The last season of Burn Notice is frustrating. I'm still giving it a break
As far as sophmore slumps go, I think that Glee's pretty much destroyed any potential the show might have had and subsequent seasons got even worse. Heroes' second season also destroyed that series' momentum and it never got better afterwards.
As far as my least favorite seasons of shows, go, that would include:
That 70's Show seasons 7 & 8
30 Rock season 6
The Office seasons 8 & 9
That's all that I can think of right now that I really didn't like. There are other seasons of shows I wasn't big on, like Community season 4 and Louie season 4, to name a few, but I liked too many episodes or moments in those seasons to think of them as outright bad. I'd probably be able to list more if I included animated shows.
Kind of a random thought but pretty much every new character after Leo in That 70s Show seemed out of place to me. In later seasons it made it seem like a straight up [bad] parody of the show.
http://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/nbc-in-talks-to-revive-%E2%80%98american-idol%E2%80%99-exclusive/ar-AAmLOdB
:bleh:
... Why?
The show just ended, NBC has The Voice, and these kinds of shows aren't as popular as they used to be anymore. At least wait until the decade's over to reboot it.
Jersey Shore is coming back. (https://twitter.com/tv_brendon/status/935361750060240896)
The Flash/Supergirl's showrunner has been fired.
https://www.thewrap.com/flash-supergirl-ep-andrew-kreisberg-fired-sexual-harassment-accusations/
Somehow I don't feel guilty about not catching up on Flash's second season still.
I've been seeing others bring up how TV seasons are shortening themselves, primarily on streaming. Only the networks and kids shows on cable are still doing 20-something episode seasons, while cable and streaming have cut things down from 13 episodes, to 10, and now they're doing 8 or less.
I understand that episode budgets are getting bigger, and the shorter seasons can work well depending on the series. Game of Thrones, for instance, probably couldn't have afforded to have more than 10 episodes a season, and it did a good job of making a season feel full at least early on. It also works that The Queen's Gambit only had 7 episodes, as it's an adaptation of a novel, and makes each episode count. But the recent MCU shows feel undercooked with little breathing room, and I'm noticing that other shows are feeling similar. Sometimes, it feels like some of these showrunners would rather be making a movie instead.
It's funny, a couple of years ago, I probably would have been in favor of the shortened seasons, and brought up how a lot of network shows had plenty of fluff in their seasons. But I've been watching Buffy for my blog again, and I'm honestly vibing with some of those early "filler" episodes more than I remembered. They're good for character and world building, and can offer worthwhile moments almost as well as the best episodes. If anything, these help to keep the pacing of a show. If everything only exists to fulfill the bigger picture, it can get exhausting. Television shouldn't need to be film.
It does feel like the lines are blurring between tv and movies as storytelling mediums, especially as tv has gotten more high budget and reliant on tighter serialized storytelling. Both Falcon and Winter Soldier and Loki felt like they could be done as a couple of movies with a little re-editing. I definitely wish Loki in particular had a longer status quo where Loki and Mobius were just doing time-traveling adventures before Sylvie and the rest of the plot kicked in.
So yeah, Warner Bros/Discovery's been shooting itself in the foot in the last couple weeks, to such a level that even execs from rival studios are like "What the hell are they doing?"
The thing that sucks (well, one of the things) is that HBO Max was easily the best streaming service before all of this bullshit started coming down.
It's really depressing.
So Riverdale's finally over tonight, and I actually saw people mourning, not because out of any enjoyment for the show ironic or genuine, but just because they're sad another 22-episode season show is gone.