Say vile good things about the medium that's been raising you for longer than your own parents.
For my part, THE WIRE. It's not just a police drama. It's an epic tale about humanity as it simultaneously crumbles and sticks back together. I've found the bleakest and most life-affirming moments from this show. From guys like Colvin, Cutty, Bubbs, McNulty, Snoop, Clay, Prez, Herc, Carver, Prop Joe, Bunk, Kima, Cedric, Ronnie, Chris, Marlo, Avon, Stringer, D'Angelo, Wee-Bey, Wallace, Bodie, Poot, Michael, Dukie, Namond, Kimmy, Tosha, and last but not least, motherfuckin' Omar, the cast is full of well-rounded and realistic characters that grab at you with full force. I can say this without hyperbole, that it is the greatest show ever made.
My dad loves Star Trek, which I was raised on along with a bunch of other science fiction shows. Thus I'm generally attracted to sci-fi series more than others and can't resist checking out as many as humanly possible, no matter how terrible they may be. One that I unfortunately never got into is Doctor Who since I could never find a good jumping on point... but now that the entire new series is available on the Netflix instant watch thingy, it's about damn time I do.
There's a lot of good sci-fi TV out there, no matter what anyone says. You definitely have to dig through the crap to find most of it -- rule of thumb: ignore anything that comes from... ugh... "SyFy"... not named Farscape or Battlestar Galactica -- but there's tons of great shit out there, like Babylon 5 and such. And, of course, there's always The Twilight Zone (original only); arguably the greatest television program ever. I also love every incarnation of Trek, aside from Enterprise. Fuck that show, seriously.
That series I just started, Lexx... shit's weird by my standards. And if you know me, you'll know that's setting the bar pretty fucking high. Needless to say, I'm enthralled by it.
This genre is something I think live action television and film do far better than animation (though print is definitely the best medium for it). I mean, I love Cowboy Bebop and all, but I'd say no other cartoon really comes close to non-animated SF. Not even Legend of the Galactic Heroes, which I'm kind of struggling to get through. I mean, it's good, yeah, but it's been fairly predictable so far and even boring at times. Vastly overrated by anime fanatics.
You know what I'm finding to be a surprisingly good new show?
Person of Interest on CBS... and that's a bit of a shock for me, because usually everything on CBS blows (their comedies are pretty much the epitome of suck, and most of their dramas aren't much better). But not this; no, it's actually a refreshing change of pace from their usual procedural blueprint (to which something is either done in the CSI/NCIS mold, so it's both boring as hell and filled with a ton of bad jokes, or it'll be like Criminal Minds where everything is as dark and brutal and gruesome as humanly possible, so you feel like shit while you're watching it), and it can be quite a fun ride when it gets going.
Some things could still use a bit of an improvement; Jim Caviezel can be a little rigid for a lead (although he is getting better), and the whole post-911 conspiracy sideplot does seem a bit hackneyed at times... but still, this show is surprisingly fun, I must say. It's the first actual network procedural to draw me in in quite some time; usually this genre either bores or disgusts me with little middle ground, but this show seems to pull it off just right.
I just hope now it actually lasts; they don't seem to be promoting it as an out of the box hit like they continue to do with NCIS: LA (which simply blows my mind considering how uncharismatic the lead actors are), so I'm not sure how it's holding up ratings-wise. I guess we'll see.
King of the Hill gets a lot of airtime. At least I've been watching it quite a bit lately(it's on at 9pm, and again at 5AM when I wake up).
Admittedly, the part of DW you might like will either start at The Eleventh Hour or with the original series. The RTD era doesn't seem much to your tastes.
And yeah, Science Fiction is always a great time to be had through TV, with the ability to show a writer's full creativity, though I had the unforunate luck of watching episodes like The Outrageous Okona when trying to get back into TNG after growing up on it as a kid.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on February 09, 2012, 09:28:53 PM
Admittedly, the part of DW you might like will either start at The Eleventh Hour or with the original series. The RTD era doesn't seem much to your tastes.
The original series? Like, the one that started in the 60's? I don't think that's on Netflix. :'(
EDIT: Never mind, it is. All the serials are in there separately. If not all, then a whole lot of 'em.
And, sorry, but... what's the RTD era?
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Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on February 09, 2012, 09:28:53 PM
Admittedly, the part of DW you might like will either start at The Eleventh Hour or with the original series. The RTD era doesn't seem much to your tastes.
The original series? Like, the one that started in the 60's? I don't think that's on Netflix. :'(
And, sorry, but... what's the RTD era?
The 2005-2009 era of the show.
And I think you might be able to find a few on Netflix. Try searching for Caves of Androzani, or Talons of Weng-Chiang.
QuoteNever mind, it is. All the serials are in there separately. If not all, then a whole lot of 'em.
Except the lost ones. That's another story.
I know I was mentioning Unsolved Mysteries in the other thread, so I should put it here. I'm not really the biggest fan of the rip off shows of this (and America's Most Wanted feels a bit too sensational for my tastes most of the time), but the original's laxer pace and focus on details and all different kinds of mysteries is interesting. It also helped catch a lot of criminals, and find lost relatives and missing people over the years.
The show didn't deserve the shabby treatment it got.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on February 09, 2012, 09:34:04 PM
Except the lost ones. That's another story.
Ah, right. Such a shame when good content just gets lost like that. :(
Think I'd like Torchwood?
Quote from: Foggle on February 09, 2012, 09:41:03 PM
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on February 09, 2012, 09:34:04 PM
Except the lost ones. That's another story.
Ah, right. Such a shame when good content just gets lost like that. :(
Think I'd like Torchwood?
Children of Earth, probably. Everything else. uh... I mean, it says a lot when the spin-off intended for kids was more mature than the one for adults.
Wait, what's the spin-off intended for kids? I'm so confused. :(
Anyway, Netflix has (sorry that these are out of order, it's how they come up on there):
The Ark in Space
The Three Doctors
Pyramids of Mars
The Pirate Planet
The City of Death
The Ribos Operation
The Aztecs
The Visitation
Spearhead from Space
The Curse of Fenric
Horror of Fang Rock
The Leisure Hive
The Mind Robber
The Caves of Androzani
The Androids of Tara
Carnival of Monsters
The Green Death
The Power of Kroll
So, not nearly all of them, but a fair amount to start off with, I suppose. Which of those would you recommend?
Quote from: Foggle on February 09, 2012, 09:46:56 PM
Wait, what's the spin-off intended for kids? I'm so confused. :(
The Sarah Jane Adventures. A decent show sadly cut short by the death of the lead actress.
QuoteAnyway, Netflix has (sorry that these are out of order, it's how they come up on there):
The Ark in Space
The Three Doctors
Pyramids of Mars
The Pirate Planet
The City of Death
The Ribos Operation
The Aztecs
The Visitation
Spearhead from Space
The Curse of Fenric
Horror of Fang Rock
The Leisure Hive
The Mind Robber
The Caves of Androzani
The Androids of Tara
Carnival of Monsters
The Green Death
The Power of Kroll
So, not nearly all of them, but a fair amount to start off with, I suppose. Which of those would you recommend?
There.
And if you want something arc-based, just watch a Series 4 story called "Silence of the Library/Forest of the Dead", watch Series 5 and 6, then rewatch the aforementioned story to catch all the foreshadowing.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on February 09, 2012, 09:49:48 PM
Quote from: Foggle on February 09, 2012, 09:46:56 PM
Wait, what's the spin-off intended for kids? I'm so confused. :(
The Sarah Jane Adventures. A decent show sadly cut short by the death of the lead actress.
Holy shit! That's depressing.
QuoteThere.
Cool, thanks :)
Quote from: Foggle on February 09, 2012, 09:23:21 PM
My dad loves Star Trek, which I was raised on along with a bunch of other science fiction shows. Thus I'm generally attracted to sci-fi series more than others and can't resist checking out as many as humanly possible, no matter how terrible they may be. One that I unfortunately never got into is Doctor Who since I could never find a good jumping on point... but now that the entire new series is available on the Netflix instant watch thingy, it's about damn time I do.
Well it depends on whether or not you're interested in starting with the classic series. In which case, either Spearhead from Space or Robot are very good jumping off points. Both represent the beginnings of two of the most popular eras amongst casual fans, Jon Pertwee's and Tom Baker's respectively.
In the case of the new series, I'd still say go with Rose, but if you're adamant about only watching Steve Moffatt-era Who, you should still view Blink and Silence in the Library/Forest of Death as much of Moffat's mythos and concepts (wibbly wobbly timey wimey for instance) originates in those two stories.
Quote from: Foggle on February 09, 2012, 09:46:56 PM
Wait, what's the spin-off intended for kids? I'm so confused. :(
Anyway, Netflix has (sorry that these are out of order, it's how they come up on there):
The Ark in Space
Pyramids of Mars
The City of Death
The Aztecs
Spearhead from Space
The Curse of Fenric
The Leisure Hive
The Mind Robber
The Caves of Androzani
Carnival of Monsters
The Green Death
So, not nearly all of them, but a fair amount to start off with, I suppose. Which of those would you recommend?
That's pretty much what I'd go with.
Noice! I'll add Leisure Hive to my queue, as well.
So I should start with Spearhead From Space, then? Alright.
Honestly, I've watched my tv like three times to see a few minutes of Powerpuff Girls over the last few weeks.
Quote from: Foggle on February 09, 2012, 10:01:22 PM
So I should start with Spearhead From Space, then? Alright.
Its the first show in color and its THE ONLY Doctor Who made 100% on film instead of tape. Classic Who never got slicker.
Quote from: Foggle on February 09, 2012, 09:23:21 PM
This genre is something I think live action television and film do far better than animation (though print is definitely the best medium for it). I mean, I love Cowboy Bebop and all, but I'd say no other cartoon really comes close to non-animated SF. Not even Legend of the Galactic Heroes, which I'm kind of struggling to get through. I mean, it's good, yeah, but it's been fairly predictable so far and even boring at times. Vastly overrated by anime fanatics.
That's because animation has been too often too cliched or too kid friendly for the scifi genre. Outside of superhero cartoons, it's completely laughable to think scifi can get any kind of justice from the west. Not that I'm a much bigger fan of anime's library since I think Akira and Ghost In The Shell are extremely overrated and only like a few scifi anime series.
I do love me some GitS, but it's most definitely overrated. Ironically, I think Innocence (the sequel that absolutely no one likes) is the best part of the series.
Anyway, my favorite type of show is one with a really clever character that doesn't describe what the hell he's doing in a completely stupid manner (I'm looking at you Numb3rs with your stupid ass scenes of showing images of barbarians and shit out of nowhere) That would make Burn Notice and Prison Break my favorite shows.
Quote from: Foggle on February 09, 2012, 10:23:38 PM
I do love me some GitS, but it's most definitely overrated. Ironically, I think Innocence (the sequel that absolutely no one likes) is the best part of the series.
What the hell is Innocence? Anyway, I just can't get into the show. The dull way every single character delivers lines is an instant turn off.
Innocence is the sequel to the movie.
The show starts out fairly lame, but it gets pretty good once you hit the Laughing Man arc.
Quote from: gunswordfist on February 09, 2012, 10:27:53 PM
Anyway, my favorite type of show is one with a really clever character that doesn't describe what the hell he's doing in a completely stupid manner
So you hate all anime? :joy:
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Quote from: Foggle on February 09, 2012, 10:23:38 PM
I do love me some GitS, but it's most definitely overrated. Ironically, I think Innocence (the sequel that absolutely no one likes) is the best part of the series.
What the hell is Innocence? Anyway, I just can't get into the show. The dull way every single character delivers lines is an instant turn off.
Well, it's kinda justified given how all but one of the cast are battle-hardened cyborgs.
Quote from: Foggle on February 09, 2012, 10:39:20 PM
Innocence is the sequel to the movie.
The show starts out fairly lame, but it gets pretty good once you hit the Laughing Man arc.
Quote from: gunswordfist on February 09, 2012, 10:27:53 PM
Anyway, my favorite type of show is one with a really clever character that doesn't describe what the hell he's doing in a completely stupid manner
So you hate all anime? :joy:
:lol: I honestly hate most anime. I'll give you that.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on February 09, 2012, 10:40:10 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on February 09, 2012, 10:29:44 PM
Quote from: Foggle on February 09, 2012, 10:23:38 PM
I do love me some GitS, but it's most definitely overrated. Ironically, I think Innocence (the sequel that absolutely no one likes) is the best part of the series.
What the hell is Innocence? Anyway, I just can't get into the show. The dull way every single character delivers lines is an instant turn off.
Well, it's kinda justified given how all but one of the cast are battle-hardened cyborgs.
:wth:
I have no shame in admitting I've watched some Telenovelas simply for the cheesecake and the convoluted plots.
Also, I love syndicated adventure serials. I grew up watching shows Hercules, Xena, Mutant X, Final Conflict and Highlander on the weekends, and I've been trying to track down that one show that aired recently. Legend of the Seekers I think. The best things about these shows is how they're always guaranteed a long running time, so they get some good stories out of it despite the limited budgets.
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This is why I love TV.
Modern Family is pretty much the only current show I keep tabs on. I really just love the family dynamics in this show and how connected they are. That and I find everyone having a distinct personality and a total joy to watch. I usually hate the common family model that Phil and Claire have in other shows, but I love how this show has both of them being right about things equally.
Been slowly getting into Modern Family myself, and I can't help but enjoy how woven the plots between the three families are.
Yeah, it's very tightly done. The Dunphys are my personal favorite though, if only for Phil.
I've been watching a bit of I Love Lucy lately. I think it's one of the few sitcoms from that era that holds up. I'm thankful that it's still airing on TV today, because it really deserves to be seen by everyone.
Where's it air now? I haven't see it since TV Land lost the rights to it.
I want to watch some Honeymooners now, wonder if any channel still plays them.
A couple of local syndicates still air it, along with Hallmark.
I wish I could find The Honeymooners on here as well. Little luck finding it here, though.
IT Crowd is love.
Is that American?
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 14, 2012, 02:36:35 PM
Is that American?
No. It's from the guy who made Black Books and Father Ted.
You know what other show is totally classic and awesome? The Muppet Show. I watched the Debbie Harry episode on a Blondie kick last night, and it's as fun as ever.
It's just a shame that it doesn't air on TV anymore.
You're right about that. I'd love to see it on a regular basis.
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Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 14, 2012, 02:36:35 PM
Is that American?
No. It's from the guy who made Black Books and Father Ted.
Oh, I was thinking of the American remake thing. I guess.
Really, I'd love for them to make a new show. I was suspicious of how the characters would be handled ever since the Disney Channel specials, but the movie and other recent appearances with the Muppets show that they're in good hands after all.
And if they do make one, I'll petition to make them make Rush host the first show. .3.
Dude. Dudeeee
On top of the Criterion sale Barnes & Noble is having, they're also running a half-off sale for all their first season TV sets. I picked up MTM, since I was planning on starting my collection for it anyway. Next I might the Bob Newhart Show.
Political Animals looks to be a decent show. They don't even try to hide that it's based on the Clinton family, but the storyline is still pretty compelling.
yeah gurl (http://www.bleedingcool.com/2012/08/28/joss-whedon-co-writes-marvels-shield-tv-pilot-at-abc/)
I'm still wondering if it's going to feature Maria Hill heavily, and if so, would this interfere with HIMYM.
The thing about the show is that if it wants to sell, it needs some familiar face from the movies, and the main Avengers and Sam Jackson would likely require too much to do it full time, and Coulson's dead. So you really have no choice but to use Cobie.
TV Guide did a top 60 dramas list, but they only decided to rank the top 10.
1- Hill Street Blues
2- The Sopranos
3- Masterpiece
4- The Twilight Zone
5- The Wire
6- Mad Men
7- The West Wing
8- The Defenders
9- ER
10- Thirtysomething
Eh.
I like what I've seen of Hill Street Blues, but yeah, The Wire should be higher. I also don't see why Mad Men should rank above Breaking Bad, and I'm definitely a fan of both.
And it's pretty hard to talk about The Defenders, when so few of it is available to the public. It hasn't been televised in a long-ass time, and few episodes are around on the internet the last time I checked. This is a show that really needs a DVD release to be archived.
I can't get this out of my head, but basically I realize that all of the best shows currently on TV each explore their own deep, relatable theme on a regular basis. And that includes:
How I Met Your Mother- Age
Mad Men- Identity
Breaking Bad- Family
Community- Acceptance
Louie- Isolation
Game of Thrones- Pride
Each are varied, layered and usually subtle with how they tackle these themes, and are consistently lauded for all the right reasons, as well as prove week after week how power and necessary television can be. God bless 'em.
Quote from: Avaitor on April 09, 2013, 12:08:06 AM
all of the best shows currently on TV
[No mention of Archer.]
:srs:
I wrote that elsewhere, and didn't want to include Archer, since I still consider animation is in its own island for whatever reason.
But yeah, Archer focuses on obsession quite well, from the Archer family's history of addiction to Cheryl's pleasure to pain to Cyril's many, many insecurities.
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Awesome sauce. Besides MTM, they have the following available:
- I Love Lucy for the 50's
- Star Trek for the 60's
- The Cosby Show for the 80's
- The Simpsons for the 90's
- Lost for the 00's
If I had more money, I probably would have bought the Lucy and Simpsons ones as well.
I'll definitely go for the Simpsons one. You can't deny how great that show once was.
It does come with a poster inside, which has all six covers.
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There's also a section on the backside dedicated to General Hospital with a similar cover, since this is it's 50th anniversary.
Parks is officially renewed. Good!
Meanwhile, Community is still up in the air. Meh.
Whitney's dead! (http://www.hitfix.com/news/nbc-cancels-1600-penn-and-whitney)
OORAH!
Yeah, I don't think many people are going to lament the loss of Whitney or 1600 Penn.
Quote from: Avaitor on May 09, 2013, 07:08:46 PM
Yeah, I don't think many people are going to lament the loss of Whitney or 1600 Penn.
Duh. So instead...
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The nightmare is over, Kiddington.
The nightmare is over.
NBC execs right now:
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Quote from: Avaitor on May 09, 2013, 04:00:12 PM
Parks is officially renewed. Good!
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Welll, we're not entirely in the clear just yet, since Community's future is still up in the air.
Although really, would you care if the show kept on running with how it is now? I'd personally keep it around though, since it's only 5 episodes away from syndication, and NBC honestly does not have many shows to replace it with, unless they decide to replace every thing with The Voice.
To be honest, I wouldn't mind if Community doesn't get renewed. The newest season is fairly okay and far from terrible, but it definately feels to me that the show is tired. Although, to be honest, the NBC shows in general haven't been doing much for me lately. :(
Up All Night and Guys With Kids are also canceled. My mom actually liked the latter, but I'm not surprised.
As for Community, I'll still stick around as long as it's next to Parks, but after that finale, we just don't need it anymore.
Community is officially renewed. (http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/nbc-renews-community-fifth-season-520816)
Also, it looks like I got Guys With Kids confused with The New Normal as for which show my mom watches, and that one's future is up in the air. But hey, more Community!
In other news, Dan Harmon is returning to Community.
Quote from: Avaitor on June 01, 2013, 12:33:06 PM
In other news, Dan Harmon is returning to Community.
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Check out this list. (http://www.deadline.com/2013/06/wgas-101-best-written-tv-series-of-all-time-complete-list/)
Yeah, I really need to get into The Sopranos.
Breaking Bad below I Love Lucy.
Arrested Development below Dick Van Dyke Show.
Friends above Deadwood.
I, Claudius at 77.
The Prisoner at 90.
The Wire below anything.
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It's... pretty weird.
I mean, I love Seinfeld, but I can't get behind it being the best comedy ever made. Nor should All in the Family be higher than a lot of the shows it is. The Wire and Mad Men should be higher, Friends should be off the top 25, Lost should be a lot lower, and Will & Grace should be gone entirely.
But seriously, what is wrong with Dick Van Dyke?
It's a really good list if you don't pay attention to the way they ordered it (outside of some outliers like Friends, of course). Most of the stuff on there is high quality.
Placement is never going to be the way you want it to be. At least they chose good material.
Yeah, only a handful of duds, and IIRC, HIMYM and GOT aren't there at all. Otherwise, not awful.
This might be the first time I've ever seen Will & Grace on a top anything list.
Actually though, I was almost pleasantly surprised to see how low Friends was, even if it was still Top 25. I think five years ago, they probably would've ranked it higher.
All in all, not bad. I've definitely seen worse. I still think Roseanne sucks though.
I'm going to do a similar list that I did with songs for TV show episodes. I can only think of about 5 each from this decade and the previous 2, however. I can do one each from the 80's to the 50's, though- in reverse order, that'd be "Chambers vs. Malone", "Chuckles Bites the Dust", "Space Seed", and "Walking Distance".
Also, no cartoons, at least not here.
90's:
1- Love's Labor Lost
2- The Two Mrs. Cranes
3- Relics
4- Life Behind Larry
5- The Conversion
00's:
1- Once More, With Feeling
2- Any given episode of The Wire
3- Slap Bet
4- School Reunion
5- My Screw Up
10's:
1- The Suitcase
2- Blackwater
3- Hermanos
4- Remedial Chaos Theory
5- Duckling
Edit: I think the fact that I'm able to do shit like this at all proves that I need to get a life.
Hmmm... I think I'm gonna need some help with Show Titles there, Avaitor. I think I can make out 2: "Crane" is of course Dr. Crane from
Frasier and "My" is the first word in every
Scrubs episode title short of the last season ("Our") and 3 episodes where "My" became "His, Her," and I think "Their."
I actually think
Will & Grace is an above average sitcom. It's nowhere near original and has the same crutch formula of endless-repetition of stock jokes a lot of shows have. But it is in no way weaker than the likes of
Frasier (sorry),
Cheers (this I'm not sorry for), or almost any family show.
Quote from: Kiddington on June 04, 2013, 07:59:44 AMI still think Roseanne sucks though.
And you're still wrong.
But guessing games are fun!
Personally, I always found Jack and especially Karen to be more fun than Will or Grace. I could never get behind either character at all.
Quote from: Avaitor on July 07, 2013, 04:58:47 PMBut guessing games are fun!
Not to someone who's missed more television than seen.
Quote from: Avaitor on July 07, 2013, 04:58:47 PMPersonally, I always found Jack and especially Karen to be more fun than Will or Grace. I could never get behind either character at all.
It's fate. The Wackiest character on any sitcom turns out to be the most popular.
Taxi, Family Matters... other shows.
I think the only time it worked the opposite way was
Home Improvement and Al Borlund. Oh, and
Step by Step. They tried to replicate Urkel with Sasha Mitchell (a martial arts movie actor) as a mentally-challenged / stoner surfer. I always call him the male Kimmy Gibler.
Speaking of Roseanne. (http://hipsterswhodresslikejackie.tumblr.com/)
The Emmy nominations will be here on the 18th, but i'm bored and nice enough to post my hopeful wins for this year.
Best Drama-
Game of Thrones
Runner-Up: Orphan Black
Best Lead Actor in a Drama Series-
Mads Mikkelsen
Runner-Up: Hugh Dancy
Special Edition Third Choice: Matt Smith
Best Lead Actress in a Drama Series-
Tatiana Maslany
Runner-Up: Keri Russell
Best Supporting Actor in a Drama Series-
Jonathan Banks
Runner-Up: Laurence Fishburne
Best Supporting Actress in a Drama Series-
Michelle Fairley
Runner-Up: Emilia Clarke
Best Directing for a Drama Series-
Matt Weiner- "In Care Of"
Runner-Up: Gavin O'Connor- "Pilot" (The Americans)
Best Writing for a Drama Series-
David Benioff & D.B. Weiss- "The Rains of Castamere"
Runner-Up: Thomas Schnauz- "Say My Name"
Best Comedy Series-
Louie
Runner-Up: Not The Big Bang Theory Uh, probably either Parks and Recreation or How I Met Your Mother Neither were at their best this year, but they deserve a win already.
Best Lead Actor in a Comedy-
Louis C.K.
Runner-Up: Alec Baldwin
Best Lead Actress in a Comedy-
Amy Poehler
Runner-Up: Tina Fey
Best Supporting Actor in a Comedy-
Neil Patrick Harris
Runner-Up: Nick Offerman
Best Supporting Actress in a Comedy-
Cobie Smulders
Runner-Up: Alyson Hannigan
Best Directing for a Comedy Series-
Pamela Fryman- "The Final Page, Part 2"
Runner-Up- Louis C.K.- "New Year's Eve"
Best Writing for a Comedy Series-
Matt Murray- "Article Two"
Runner-Up: Carter Bays & Craig Thomas- "The Time Travelers"
Kiddington grrrrr...
Anyway, here are the main noms for this year's Emmys.
Outstanding Comedy Series:
"30 Rock" (NBC)
"The Big Bang Theory" (CBS)
"Girls" (HBO)
"Louie" (FX)
"Modern Family" (ABC)
"Veep" (HBO)
Outstanding Lead Actor in a Comedy Series:
Jason Bateman, "Arrested Development"
Jim Parsons, "The Big Bang Theory"
Matt LeBlanc, "Episodes"
Don Cheadle, "House of Lies"
Louis C.K., "Louie"
Alec Baldwin, "30 Rock"
Outstanding Lead Actress in a Comedy Series:
Laura Dern, "Enlightened"
Lena Dunham, "Girls"
Edie Falco, "Nurse Jackie"
Amy Poehler, "Parks and Recreation"
Tina Fey, "30 Rock"
Julia Louis-Dreyfus, "Veep"
Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Comedy Series:
Adam Driver, "Girls"
Jesse Tyler Ferguson, "Modern Family"
Ed O'Neill, "Modern Family"
Ty Burrell, "Modern Family"
Bill Hader, "Saturday Night Live"
Tony Hale, "Veep"
Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Comedy Series:
Mayim Bialik, "The Big Bang Theory"
Jane Lynch, "Glee"
Sofia Vergara, "Modern Family"
Julie Bowen, "Modern Family"
Merritt Wever, "Nurse Jackie"
Jane Krakowski, "30 Rock"
Anna Chlumsky, "Veep"
Outstanding Drama Series:
"Breaking Bad" (AMC)
"Downton Abbey" (PBS)
"Game of Thrones" (HBO)
"Homeland" (Showtime)
"House of Cards" (Netflix)
"Mad Men" (AMC)
Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama Series:
Bryan Cranston, "Breaking Bad"
Hugh Bonneville, "Downton Abbey"
Damian Lewis, "Homeland"
Kevin Spacey, "House of Cards"
Jon Hamm, "Mad Men"
Jeff Daniels, "The Newsroom"
Outstanding Lead Actress in a Drama Series:
Vera Farmiga, "Bates Motel"
Michelle Dockery, "Downton Abbey"
Claire Danes, "Homeland"
Robin Wright, "House of Cards"
Elisabeth Moss, "Mad Men"
Connie Britton, "Nashville"
Kerry Washington, "Scandal"
Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama Series:
Bobby Cannavale, "Boardwalk Empire"
Jonathan Banks, "Breaking Bad"
Aaron Paul, "Breaking Bad"
Jim Carter, "Downton Abbey"
Peter Dinklage, "Game of Thrones"
Mandy Patinkin, "Homeland"
Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Drama Series:
Anna Gunn, "Breaking Bad"
Maggie Smith, "Downton Abbey"
Emilia Clarke, "Game of Thrones"
Christine Baranski, "The Good Wife"
Morena Baccarin, "Homeland"
Christina Hendricks, "Mad Men"
Eh, I'm not too surprised. I really wish they'd drop some of the Modern Family actors for people from HIMYM and P&R, and I REALLY wish Tatiana Maslany was nominated, but it's whatever.
Anyway, I'm rooting for my Khalessi.
WHERE IS MY ARCHER NOM EMMYS
WHERE IS IT
Quote from: Foggle on July 18, 2013, 09:22:23 AM
WHERE IS MY ARCHER NOM EMMYS
WHERE IS IT
Did it get any animation noms? The Emmys usually try to separate cartoons from the "big" awards.
Oh, I didn't realize they completely separated cartoons from live action. I have no idea how to find out if it got an animation nom, though.
Julianna Marguiles recently stated that she'd be down for an ER reunion movie, where we get to see Ross and Hathaway's wedding, as long as George Clooney is interested.
I dunno about y'all, but I'd pay to see that.
Thoughts? (http://popwatch.ew.com/2013/09/05/breaking-bad-lost-series-finale/)
Quote from: Avaitor on September 05, 2013, 05:41:02 PM
Thoughts? (http://popwatch.ew.com/2013/09/05/breaking-bad-lost-series-finale/)
I'd say they're right about the nature of a lot of fandoms these days. Many seem eager to justify that what they like is the absolute best anything and that they are "better" than others who prefer different shows, especially those who prefer shows they don't like. I think it's all rather silly, but I see where it comes from. I just avoid the kinds of places on the internet where the crazies reside, and stay all the saner for it. :D
In its first week, OITNB had more steams on Netflix than the new season of Arrested Development did.
Fuck yeah.
Continuing catching up on Burn Notice.
This is pretty cool. (http://slaughterhouse90210.tumblr.com/) Takes screenshots from Breaking Bad, Mad Men and OITNB, among other shows, and adds relevant literary quotes to them.
Finally watched the latest Breaking Bad. One of the most emotionally draining pieces of TV I've seen. Shame this is ending next week.
Yeah, that was... holy shit, was that intense.
While i'm waiting for tonight's ep, I'm watching the Emmys with my mom. I didn't know that Nurse Jackie was still on, let alone was liked enough to win big awards.
Since they switched Boy Meets World with That 70s Show, I sometimes watch ABC Family in the afternoon and got into watching a bit of The Middle.
It's not bad, but the characters are a bit flat to me. All in all, not too bad.
That's one of those shows the AV Club has been plugging a little as the years go by. Not nearly as much as the obvious ones or New Girl (why?), but they really seem to want people to watch it.
My mom likes it too, and wheneverI check it out, I can kinda see where she comes from. It's a cute alternative to Modern Family.
Now that Breaking Bad's over, I'm going to make a list of my top 10 shows currently on TV. Since there's only one cartoon on there anyway, I'll keep it in.
1- How I Met Your Mother
2- Archer
3- Game of Thrones
4- Mad Men
5- Parks and Recreation
6- Orange is the New Black
7- It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
8- Louie
9- Orphan Black
10- Hannibal
Fuck yes. (http://variety.com/2013/tv/news/abc-sets-philip-marlowe-detective-drama-from-castles-andrew-marlowe-1200738603/)
I'm not sure if I mentioned this before, but Marlowe>Holmes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9kZivVxB3vU
No excuses. Watch this.
I've been working on a list of what I thought were the best shows which aired this year, but I've been enjoying Girls enough to where I'm putting this on hold so I can see if and where I'd rank it here.
Anyone else have their own lists?
Alright, let's get cracking! I just wanted to say that since Archer was probably going to be my only cartoon on here anyway, and I had a good list until I thought about it, I left it out, but here.
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It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
I was trying to think about which of my comedies to put on here. Community is definitely out, since, well, just see what the hell happened without Dan Harmon. Parks and Rec has had some truly inspired stuff this past year, but it's been very hit or miss starting with the fifth season. I'm really growing to like The Crazy Ones, especially with Brad Garrett's extra dynamic to the show, but it's still not fully remarkable yet. Veep has some of the smartest insults ever constructed on TV, but it doesn't feel whole for me (maybe I really need to get to The Thick of It already). And if I was to make a list of the best episodes of the year, Girls would definitely have at least one slot here, but as a collective season, this year's was not great. HIMYM will make it here soon enough (cause, c'mon, it's me), and Louie took the year off.
But you know what show I was really into this year? Sunny. The past couple of seasons have had more of a hit or miss ratio, but this one was good all around to my tastes, aside from the finale, which was a little too throwback-heavy, a problem the show has had for a while now. The selection of episodes were high on classic territory, with Dee's stand-up career rising in the premiere, the introduction of City Mac, a collection of vignettes exposing the gang's varied psyche, and a winner written by the Game of Thrones showrunners in which Charlie becomes "smart". This is how you do a season filled with event episodes, something Community did this year and failed at, badly. It helps that the Sunny gang are less grounded than the Community family, and are able to make most of their wackier adventures just work because, hey, it could definitely happen to them. It's also not like they have anything better to do, while the Greendale study group didn't seem to study much this year, did they?
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Mad Men
On the whole, this season of Mad Men isn't anyone's favorite, probably because of how convoluted, and at certain points, empty, it felt. With this being my first season of the show that I watched as it aired, I was somewhat disappointed, but on the whole, there is enough to analyze here that makes it stand up.
Plenty did happen, and a good amount made sense. After Peggy left SCDP for another firm, her new place combines with her old, in hopes to earn the various ad agents in both firms more prestige and win Chevy. This is all happening while Don, the iconic bastardmind of the show, loses his shit, resulting in the firm losing out and Don losing his job. If you haven't caught up with the show, I don't want to say too much about this year, but it's fascinating to see how the characters fans have grown to love, or in some cases, hate, have changed. Surprisingly, a lot of the change that happens this year was for the better, like Trudy Campbell, who finally leaves Pete's ass, and Betty, who got her best plots since season 3. Even Sally loses her admiration for her dad in some of her strongest solo material this year. And then you have that ending shot. Damn.
But let's wrap this up with Ken Cosgrove dancing.
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Hannibal
Man, this show is pretty. The AV Club (http://www.avclub.com/article/hannibals-powerful-visuals-make-it-one-of-the-best-200586) tackled that aspect better than I ever could.
Hmm, but besides a brilliant use of visuals, what else do I like about this show? Well, as a disturbing cat and mouse game, the show succeeded with some fantastic atmosphere and one hell of a cast. It's a great adaptation of Red Dragon, which will probably leave you wanting more, even if you're familiar with the story. I'm not really sure how to do this one justice, so I'll probably just leave it here for now.
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American Horror Story: Coven
Alright, I'm just going to focus on Coven here, since even though Asylum did air new episodes this year, I still haven't seen it (although I probably will soon now that it's on Netflix).
But I have to say, I was surprised that AHS made it so high on my list since, let's be real, this is not a smart show at all. The show relishes on camp, for better or for worse, relying on horror cliches both old and new. On top of that, it is a Ryan Murphy show, which is easy to realize when you watch enough of it.
So why is it here? I still need to see Asylum, but I think Coven is the best season yet because of its goals- this is a feminist critique needed in a landscape that is always want for strong female characters. Coven is a powerful mother-daughter story. Coven is an honest story about girls bonding. Coven is an attack against racism. Coven has its tight-as-hell cast to great effect all over. And I just can't help but wonder who the Supreme is, which means the show is doing its job. So I give AHS the benefit of the doubt here.
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How I Met Your Mother
Bias time! But honestly, what can I say, I'm just enamored by the way the HIMYM is set, combining flashbacks and flash-forwards, comedy and drama, multi and single camera techniques, and smart and dumb humor all in one show in a more concise way than many other shows. The series has definitely peaked a while ago, but when it's good, I can't think of many better shows out there.
And I have 2 halves of a whole season to compare it to, with mixed results all around. Season 8 had a bad start last year, but just around the time Barney proposed to Robin, the crew found a better groove and pulled out some killer episodes before the season ended, including the last Robin Sparkles episode and a great misdirection in Barney's bachelor party as total highlights. Granted, the latter half of season 8 wasn't perfect, like with Ted's psycho girlfriend, but I think there's enough good to balance out the bad.
Season 9, meanwhile, has been especially hit or miss as of now, with no real consensus as to its overall quality or not. A lot of skeptics of the show's ending run have been defending the pacing, while others just want Ted to meet the mother already and call it a day. Myself, I have to admit that I don't think the problem with this season is the pacing. There's been some good layouts with the gang just hanging at the Farmhampton, but it has been more fun when we get various flashbacks, probably because we get to see more of Marshall then, since he only just came to the hotel last night. But even in the weakest episodes, there have been some truly inspired gags and moments, which make me feel better about the season as a whole, even if this isn't the final victory lap it needed.
As for the mother? She's fantastic. All I need to say.
And here's a good place to put the breaks on my list for now. My top 5 will be posted up soon, but please stop making me multi-post and reply. :P
I haven't really watched much TV this year, I've been heavy into reading more than anything. But yes, I know How I Met Your Mother will always top your lists. I'm actually surprised it isn't higher.
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30 Rock
Man, I was NOT expecting this. The funny thing is, I put this a little lower than I was going to since so few episodes aired this year.
But you see, this is how you do a final season, by wrapping up everything that needed to and end, while still adding in plenty of laughs. The previous couple of seasons were becoming too farcical, even for the show's sake, but it seems that out of nowhere, Tina Fey realized what was wrong with the show and decided to fix things up. Tracy and Jenna grew up a little, Jack makes the best possible decision he could for his career, Liz settles down in a logical sense, and best of all, Kenneth got what was coming to him. But don't take my word for it, check out the last season for yourself.
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Orphan Black
I have to admit, when I first saw previews for this one during Doctor Who's return, I wasn't so sure about it. But it didn't take long for me to become more excited for Orphan Black over DW. And there's one clear reason as to why. Tatiana Maslany got robbed for bringing life to each of her characters, and even having the skills to mix and match them when needed. On top of sharp writing, Orphan Black was one of the best out there.
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Breaking Bad
Only third? Well, you'll see in the next two slots.
But I was wrong with 30 Rock. THIS is how you do a final season. While some of the best characters in the show's run didn't get to make it to the finale, nothing was forgotten by the time Walter White's fate was determined. As for the acting, direction, writing, etc on the show, man, I can't even begin to describe how excellent it all is. But Breaking Bad really knocked it out of the park.
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Game of Thrones
The reason I went with GOT over Breaking Bad is part personal bias, part that we've hit the peak of the series as of now, unless Martin gets the last two books out perfectly.
But what a year this was! Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to go into my #1 choice.
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Orange is the New Black
I don't think a first season of any show excited me nearly as much as this one's, because there just isn't anything like it out there. A show with this strong of a cast that's almost entirely female, of multiple ethnicities and creed, with their own lively, tragic stories. The plotting for the show is also brilliant, with each episode setting up for another piece of the puzzle that Chapman's too vein to realize- she's just as, if not more, crazy than everyone else in the prison. Not to discredit anyone else, aside from maybe Pennastucky. Socially, OITNB is too thematically rich for me to decipher now, but this will likely make it up there with The Sopranos, The Wire, Mad Men and Breaking Bad.
Yeah again, I got lazy by the end. I probably shouldn't have tried to make a written list, but there you go.
And while I'm still list crazy, here's my top 5 moments on TV this year.
5- Do I go with the Red Wedding or Leslie Knope and Ben Wyatt's less-red wedding? Highy-priced heartbreak vs low key sentimentality, with both shows handling their retrospective fields better than most. Ah, let's just make this a top 6.
4- So Girls has plenty of problems, but when it calls out the hypocrisy of the titular girls, it exceeds wonderfully. "One Man's Trash" probably does it better than the rest of the show thus far.
3- After a year of hurting his daughter so much and many more years of lying to all of his children, Don Draper takes them to the bordello he was raised in. All it takes is once glance to hint at Sally's understanding.
2- The reveal of the mother would easily be my #1 in most other instances, but let's go down a slot...
1- ... and say it with me now- "My name is ASAC Schrader, and you can go fuck yourself."
So this is the year that we're getting Batman and The Wonder Years on DVD. Kick ass.
I was wondering if either would ever happen for a while. I'm glad to see the issues have been settled.
Plus we're getting all of Hill Street Blues and The Bob Newhart Show, as well as more sets of Newhart.
Now I just want CN and Disney to finish their older shows up. Oh, and the rest of The Muppet Show.
I like that they went straight for a "Complete Series" release, too. No starting off with early seasons then tapering off.
Give me my KOTH, Fox.
I was trying one of those things out similar to the ones we did before about movies, video games, and albums released the years since were born, but for TV shows, and by the traditional TV season. For example, instead of starting off with a cumulative choice for 1991, I went for shows that aired during the 1991-1992 season, since I was born later in the year. And since the Emmys consider shows that air in the summer to be a eligible not for the coming awards ceremony, but the following, I'd follow in that trend.
The problem with this is that it's hard. Crazy hard to think about entire seasons of multiple shows and decide what is the strongest overall, especially now that most of the best shows have 13 or less episode seasons instead of the standard 22 on the broadcast networks. But I will say that the 2010-2011 season was a great time for TV. That had my favorite season of HIMYM (the sixth), my favorite Parks and Rec (the third), my favorite Community (the second) and one of the best for Mad Men (the fourth), plus the start of Game of Thrones and Louie. All it was missing was Breaking Bad, which missed that eligibility period, but still, pretty cool.
And yeah, I'm saving this for later, cause it's way too much for me right now.
And then I found this thingy (http://www.hulu.com/bestinshow), which is pretty cool.
My votes went as such-
True Detective vs. Game of Thrones- I haven't talked about True Detective on here, have I? Well, it kicks ass if you're interested. But it's up against Game of Thrones, which might just be the best show on TV and possibly my front-runner for the whole game, so maybe next time, TD.
The Good Wife vs. Scandal- Since I don't watch either, I have to pass for now, but both interest me. The Good Wife moreso, partly cause of Julianna Marguiles.
Hannibal vs. Bob's Burgers- I like both, but Hannibal is a more interesting show to my tastes, and is off to a great start this season. Also, I'm over a season's worth of episodes behind on Bob's Burgers.
Orphan Black vs. The Americans- I REALLY like both, but I think Orphan Black is slightly more exciting to my tastes. It also helps that Tatiana Maslany might be my new #1 crush.
Sherlock vs. Archer- Easiest match here for me. I like Sherlock, but I never really think about it when the new episodes wrap up. Archer is the most consistently funny show on TV, and I come back to it a LOT. I just wish it wasn't up against a show with such a big, obnoxious fandom.
Arrow vs. Brooklyn 99- I don't watch either, so I have to pass. I'll probably get to them at some point, though. I keep on hearing that Arrow is the good comic book show for the big 2, while B99 has some strong overlap with the best of Parks and Rec in terms of talent. I just can't seem to get around to watching them, though.
New Girl vs. Veep- Both of these run under shows with a fair amount of good elements that don't elevate to greatness for me, but I actually care enough about Veep to stick around, so it gets my vote. Plus, the insults are some of the best I've heard in a comedy.
Community vs. Mad Men- This season of Community has been a major step up from the last, but I feel that the past couple of episodes have been lacking (I blame Troy's departure), while last season of Mad Men was its weakest to date, but I think I have to go with the latter, since I like the whole of it more.
This really is a good era for TV, though! I can definitely think of a couple more shows which should be here. Although one of them is a Netflix original, which is obviously a big no-no.
The next round is up, (http://www.hulu.com/bestinshow) and my votes went as such this time.
Sherlock vs. Hannibal- I like Sherlock. Honest, I do. But Hannibal is just killing it this season. To the point that I can honestly say that Mads Mikkelsen>Anthony Hopkins. I'm not sorry, either.
Community vs. New Girl- Just as simple here. I watch Community every week (hella good episode this week too, btw). I haven't seen a New Girl episode since the Prince one. Bam.
Game of Thrones- I will get to Arrow soon, honest, but since I actually watch and adore Game of Thrones, well...
Scandal vs. Orphan Black- Same as the last match, just replace Arrow and Game of Thrones with Scandal and Orphan Black.
This round was a lot easier, but that's just fine in my book.
What do you guys think of the Writers Guild of America's top 101 best TV shows of all time list?
http://www.deadline.com/2013/06/wgas-101-best-written-tv-series-of-all-time-complete-list/
I tried to include the list in spoiler tags on this post, but for some reason, the tags didn't work. Maybe because the post became too big? Either way, the list can easily be seen just by clicking on that list. So feel free to give your thoughts.
Even with the shitty finale, I still think HIMYM is better than Friends and Will & Grace combined. I'd also easily put Mary Tyler Moore above Seinfeld, M*A*S*H, and certainly All in the Family. Lost and Buffy also need to be switched, and there should be room for Joss' other shows and more British series.
As for The Sopranos, now that I'm almost done, I do see how one can prefer it to The Wire, but I'm not sure if I personally do.
I'm just going to give some quick thoughts on a few of the choices.
Quote2. Seinfeld
Great show, but I can't agree with it being the second best show ever.
Quote3. The Twilight Zone
I think this should maybe be #1 on the list.
Quote11. The Simpsons
No way a show where only 50% of the entire series is good, deserves to be this high. It's a classic, but I can't put The Simpsons in the top 20.
Quote12. I Love Lucy
I might honestly squeeze this into the top 10. All time classic.
Quote26. The X-Files
Great show. I might put it a bit higher.
Quote27. Lost
Obviously my personal #1 choice but I can acknowledge that many have their criticisms of Lost (even if plenty of them are exaggerated or simply misguided). That aside, I do think this should be in the top 20.
Quote30. Curb Your Enthusiasm
I love Curb Your Enthusiasm and think it's hilarious. That said, I'm not sure if I can agree that it's one of the top 30 shows of all time.
Those are just for some picks in the first half of the list. I might comment on the second half later.
UFC on Fox was pretty good last night. One guy was said to be the one that will easily KO the other. That guy ended up getting his ass beat and I could not be happier. Werdum whooped his ass and trolled the hell out of him during the fight. Just look at the end of the 2nd gif. :D
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Awesome article on Hill Street Blue's influence. (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/04/29/hill-street-blues-dvd_n_5232710.html?utm_hp_ref=tw) They got Martin, David Simon, and some other writers to talk about it.
There have been some other great reviews for the new set, and it makes me want to see more of it.
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I can't wait until Glory kickboxing comes on tonight. They are having another onight night Heavyweight tournament.
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Shots like these do a good job of summing up why I love Grimm.
It's not an incredibly intelligent show or a particularly deep one, and in some cases (like those images show) it's not always the most professional show. But it's just more fun than most shows out there currently. It's a flawed series. The CGI is rather cheap (although you honestly get used to it for the most part and how its used) and it has its fair share of cliches. But the main group of characters and the energy that was put into the show make it very worthwhile.
It's almost Emmy time, and I'm bored enough to compile another brief list of hopeful winners.
Outstanding Drama
Breaking Bad-: Come the fuck on, do I need to explain?
Alternate take- Hannibal: On the whole, I may prefer GOT, but Hannibal had a better year. Better than just about anything, really. God, it's a gorgeous show.
Outstanding Lead Actor in a Drama
Tie between Hugh Dancy and Mads Mikkelsen, because they're just too good to decide on. Cranston is a godsend, but he's already won 3 times, so
Outstanding Lead Actress in a Drama
Tatiana Maslany. And for an alternate take, Tatiana again. But seriously, no one comes close to the range she pulls in every single scene on Orphan Black. but if I had to, Keri Russell would be a good choice
Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Drama
Peter Dinklage all but signed his acceptance speech with his confession earlier this season, and we knew it. He definitely deserves a second Emmy.
Alternate take- either Dean Norris or Charles Dance. Both are absolutely fantastic in their roles and have given some of their best performances this season.
Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Drama
It's about time that Mad Men won an Emmy for its spectacular acting, and Christina Hendricks is the best option out there.
Alternate take- Anna Gunn won last year, but check out "Ozymandias" again and tell me that she doesn't deserve another addition to her shelf. Especially since my usual choice, Emilia Clarke, hasn't necessarily been on her A-game lately.
Outstanding Directing in a Drama
I mentioned Breaking Bad's "Ozymandias", and yeah, give the Brick guy an Emmy. He deserves it.
Alternate take- Oh fuck, there's some really good choices here. The most recent GOT episode had some killer action, and there's always top-shelf work in Mad Men and The Americans, but in terms of conflict and dramatic weight, the Hannibal finale had some great work in it. I'd lean with that
Outstanding Writing in a Drama
Vince Gilligan for "Felina". Yes.
Alternate take- George R.R. Martin for "The Lion and the Rose". Yes.
Outstanding Comedy
Now, I consider Orange is the New Black as more of a drama than a comedy, but that's how the awards have been viewing it, so I'll be glad to oblige. And it is consistently funny as shit, so that's an easy vote.
Alternate take- Hey, Louie's back! I had some issues with the last season, but this one is an improvement, so maybe next time it'd be my #1 choice (wait no, OITNB's first season is the only one applicable, so probably not!)
Outstanding Lead Actor in a Comedy
I don't think Louie C.K. is the best actor on earth, but he does a great job with his role, and definitely deserves the award over Jim Parsons.
Alternate take- Honestly, we're kind of low on great lead actors on TV, but it'd probably be a tie with Joel McHale or Josh Radnor. Just don't give the award to Mr. Bazinga again, please.
Outstanding Lead Actress in a Comedy
Taylor Schilling, no question. I'm not a huge Chapman fan, but she is absolutely incredible as her.
Alternate take- I wasn't hot on this seasons of Parks and Rec, and Leslie in particular annoyed me, but I'd rather see her win than JLD take it again. I like Veep, but for whatever reason, I can never love it, despite this being the best season yet.
Outstanding Supporting Actor in a Comedy
This is between two great characters that we had to say goodbye to this season, Barney Stinson and Abed Nadir, and while I'm ultimately more of a Barney fan, the finale did piss me off enough to let me side for Danny Pudi. But NPH is a close second.
Outstanding Supporting Actress in a Comedy
Cristin Milioti. If you don't think that she was perfect as the Mother, you're wrong. She was a revelation all season long, from her train ride with Lily to that sweet little scene underneath the umbrella.
Alternate take- Wow, there were so many great female characters on OITNB. My vote for runner-up is honestly tied between Uzo Aduba, Kate Mulgrew, and Laverne Cox.
Outstanding Directing in a Comedy
Pam Fryman for "How Your Mother Met Me". She was always excellent as the show's main director, and this is her best piece this year.
Alternate take- Hmm, Tristram Shapeero for "Cooperative Polygraphy", which has got to be the best Community episode of the season.
Outstanding Writing for a Comedy
Thomas and Bays fucked up the finale, but I just love "How Your Mother Met Me" too much to not give them the nod for that. There's a lot of great callbacks to previous episodes here, as well as enough original material to make Tracy as lovable as fans could have hoped she would be.
Alternate take- I could have gone with another OITNB episode, or something from Louie, and I might, but I'll also name-drop Aisha Muharrar and Michael Schur's script for "Ann and Chris", which was easily the highlight of Parks and Rec this season, and a damn-fine goodbye for the titular characters.
And watch as I'm way off, and none of these win. But oh well, I'm just sharing hopefuls, not speculation.
in good late night news, i am glad colbert is taking over for letterman.
YAH-TAH! CONOR MCGREGOR WON!!!!!
Tatiana Maslany finally gets an Emmy nod, while Jim Parsons doesn't. Not a bad year.
Although I do wish that the OITNB ladies got more nominations. But I can't complain about Emilia Clarke and Lena Headley both getting one. Actually, the whole Supporting Actress in a Drama selections are quite strong.
Peter Dinklage and Lena Headey getting nominations is almost like Emmy tradition by this point, so it's no surprise. Though I feel like we always have at least one other supporting actor or actress from this show who end up getting snubbed to make room for other shows. This is the first time that Emilia Clarke has received a nomination, however, if I'm not mistaken. To be honest, while I've always liked her in the role, I've never viewed it as particularly award-worthy, myself, but I'm still glad for her. At least this should be some consolation for how much damage Terminator: Genisys probably did to her image. That said, I'd argue that Natalie Dormer is a better actress than her, personally.
In terms of directing nominations, I noticed that GOT had two nominations. "Mother's Mercy" by David Nutter makes sense to me, but how the hell did "Unbowed, Unbent, Unbroken" get nominated over "Hardhome" as far as best directing for an episode goes?
On another note, I'm glad to see Bob Odenkirk and Jonathan Banks get well-deserved nominations for Better Call Saul.
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This is the first time that Emilia Clarke has received a nomination, however, if I'm not mistaken.
Nope, she was nominated back for season 3. I remember because I was disappointed that she got the nom instead of Michelle Fairley. :P
i think Emilia is great, but she's rarely the GOT actress that I most want to win. This year, I would definitely side with Lena, but my most hopeful winner for the award in general has to be Christina Hendricks.
Yeah, Fairley definitely deserved it more, that year.
And personally I'm still bummed out that Charles Dance always got snubbed for his performance in past seasons, and Iain Glen has shown incredibly good emotional range and nuance in recent seasons of the show. That said, I can't complain about Dinklage constantly getting the nominations, because the guy clearly steals every scene that he's in.
Just for the hell of it, here are my hopefuls for the main awards.
Outstanding Drama- Orange is the New Black
Outstanding Comedy- Louie
Lead Actor in a Drama- Jon Hamm
Lead Actress in a Drama- Tatiana Maslany
Lead Actor in a Comedy- Louis CK
Lead Actress in a Comedy- Amy Poehler
Supporting Actor in a Drama- Jonathan Banks
Supporting Actress in a Drama- Christina Hendricks
Supporting Actor in a Comedy- Titus Burgess
Supporting Actress in a Comedy- Jane Krakowski
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When I learned that the movie rights for Y was returned to BKV last year, I was really hoping that he would take the series to TV. I just don't see it work as a film franchise. It would be hard for it to connect to a big audience in theaters, and we'd only get a fraction of the story as a result.
Television allows for more time to grow, in terms of both finding an audience and as the story expands. But personally, I do wish that this was going to HBO, or even Netflix, so it can get away with a little more. I think FX makes some great programs, but they're a little more limited in terms of what they can get away with.
I'd prefer Netflix..since I have neither FX or HBO but FX gets away with a lot. Hell, from what I've seen, The Shield is more "adult" than Daredevil. But then again I don't know if they've gotten stricter since then. I haven't read Y so I don't know what to expect though.
I wasn't sure where exactly to post this, but in recent news, it looks as though Snowpiercer may be getting a TV series (http://editorial.rottentomatoes.com/article/snowpiercer-is-being-adapted-into-a-tv-show-plus-more-news/)....which is as genuinely intriguing of a concept as it is a flat-out bizarre one.
For those of you who don't know, Snowpiercer is one of the best sci-fi movies of the past few years, and also probably ever. That said, it's a pretty self-contained story that's perfect as a movie, but doesn't exactly scream TV series to me. I mean, what exactly would all of that extra air-time accomplish? Is there really that much more story or character-development to tell or show us?
Since I love the movie, I of course won't outright dismiss the concept. If something great can come out of this, then I'm all for it. I'm just skeptical as to what exactly that might be. Hopefully the showrunners can successfully answer that question, if and when the show ever comes out.
It's, uh, different. I am curious as well, though.
But in good news (http://uproxx.com/tv/the-americans-season-5-trailer/).
Holy shit, that's a great trailer. I usually try to avoid them, but I needed to see what they're doing with Paige, and I'm curious to see how this year goes for her.
I said that I'm not as into making lists anymore... but here are my favorite shows made in the 2010's:
10- Nathan for You
9- Halt and Catch Fire
8- One Day at a Time
7- Orange is the New Black
6- Fleabag
5- Hannibal
4- Enlightened
3- Archer
2- The Americans
1- BoJack Horseman
And also my top shows continued from before the decade:
5- Tie between How I Met Your Mother and Community
4- Parks and Recreation
3- It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia
2- Mad Men
1- Breaking Bad
It's also worth noting that I prefer Mad Men to Breaking Bad overall, but credit where credit is due that BB really hit its stride as the teens started. Overall though, it was a good decade for TV.