Another show I'm probably the only fan of here.
Craig Ferguson can probably explain why the show's good better than I ever could. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9P4SxtphJ4)
Doctor Who, you say?
I liked the series myself, even though I not that big a fan.
There's a Doctor Who fan club at another forums site I go on. (http://www.jellyneoforums.net/index.php?showtopic=31526)
I was able to catch a few episodes of this at my aunt's place during Christmas, and I can see why this show is pretty awesome, and has the fans it has. Times like this make me wish I have BBC America, if only so I could watch Dr. Who, and Law and Order UK.
We have droves of Doctor Who fans in my school. I've never watched the show. xD
There were like no fans of Doctor Who back in high school. I remember once bringing it up, and everybody just gave me mile-long stares. But then again, nobody in my school really liked anything that wasn't mainstream.
I have a couple of friends who are into it, but aren't huge fans.
I need to watch this series on Netflix soon.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on December 28, 2010, 04:57:16 PM
There were like no fans of Doctor Who back in high school. I remember once bringing it up, and everybody just gave me mile-long stares. But then again, nobody in my school really liked anything that wasn't mainstream.
You would love my high school. We're the best weirdos you'll meet.
Is there a good place to start with Doctor Who though? I always waste time, so maybe I can gain some cred in my school and use that time for Doctor Who.
For both of you guys, Series 5 (the latest one) is your best bet, mostly since the change in producers and cast means its the closest you'll get to a reboot.
Normally, everyone goes for the seasons with Eccleston and Tennant for their introduction to the show, but I'm not sure if you guys would tolerate some of the more questionable plot elements. Still, that era has some gems like "Dalek", "The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances," "The Girl In The Fireplace," "Human Nature/Family Of Blood," "Blink," and "Midnight." The second-to-last of them arguably being the best episode yet.
I checked Netflix, and it doesn't have season 5 yet.
Are you sure I wouldn't enjoy the show as much if I watch the first 4 seasons in order?
Quote from: Avaitor on December 29, 2010, 10:12:15 PM
I checked Netflix, and it doesn't have season 5 yet.
Are you sure I wouldn't enjoy the show as much if I watch the first 4 seasons in order?
Well, yeah, watching the first 4 seasons is also a great starting point. It's just that a lot of the episodes by the head writer at the time, Russell T Davies, are gonna be hit or miss, with his season finales being really polarizing. He's great at character-driven writing, but he rarely ever pulls off a decent resolution to plots. Still, it serves as a pretty good run.
Series 1 and 2 go together because of Rose, Series 3 and Torchwood go hand in hand. Series 4 and Series 5 have their own story arcs without too much referencing to the earlier seasons.
Seeing Freema Agyeman in Law&Order UK is cool too!
Quote from: Angus on December 30, 2010, 07:21:36 PM
Series 1 and 2 go together because of Rose, Series 3 and Torchwood go hand in hand. Series 4 and Series 5 have their own story arcs without too much referencing to the earlier seasons.
Personally, I'd argue that Series 4 relies too much on previous continuity. Especially the last three episodes, which expected you to have seen all of the new series, the spin-offs, and even a couple of the serials to fully understand it.
And for anybody who wants to watch Torchwood, I'd just say either start at Series 2 or
Children of Earth. Series 1 reeks of cheesiness, hints of being a vague Buffy ripoff, and bad attempts to be mature. Admittedly, the later season carries those elements (James Marsters gets a recurring role essentially playing Gay Future Spike), but it at least carries itself with a bit more grace by then.
I agree the big finale episodes for Series 4 pulls from the other spinoff shows, although I didn't watch Sarah Jane Adventures at all outside of the first episode, and didn't feel like I missed much.
Tor.com's releasing some essays about each Doctor and what makes them good. (http://www.tor.com/tags/Twelve%20Doctors%20of%20Christmas)
Apparently, the BBC released a few old DW serials on Youtube. While classics like Genesis, Fenric, or City of Death aren't on there, they did manage to put Caves of Androzani (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_b-Z1vqRG38&list=SL) on this collection. If you can handle the cheesy effects, you'll get an excellent story about how mere desire can lead to vast corruption and eventual extinction.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on December 27, 2010, 10:30:09 PM
Another show I'm probably the only fan of her
Guy I was watching snow filled broadcasts of Peter Davison back when you were watching... something else. Probably.
One of the greats of DW has passed away... (http://www.doctorwhonews.net/2011/04/dwn190411204508-elisabeth-sladen-1948.html) Goodbye, Sarah Jane. :'(
:cry:
Kinda cool that Season 6 premiered in the US within the day as the UK premiere.
Odd move on Moffat's part to make Slender Man the Big Bad of this season.
Congrats Moffat. You managed to unnerve the fuck out of me to the point where I couldn't sleep until 6.
And yay! Pirates and Neil Gaiman!
And for those who've been thinking about watching the show but don't know where to start, SFDebris will tell you. (http://sfdebris.blip.tv/file/5106133/)
Neil Gaiman's episode = Fucking brilliant. Only regret is that there'll probably be a surge of Doctor/Tardis ship fics in a few minutes.
So someone sent me a message on my tumblr telling me to watch the episode "Blink". I took that piece of advice and I quite liked it.
I'll try to get into it more in the near future. Probably very near.
It's already on hiatus in favor of Torchwood Miracle Day? Why?! :/
Quote from: Angus on August 08, 2011, 02:11:40 PM
It's already on hiatus in favor of Torchwood Miracle Day? Why?! :/
Just 3 more weeks for us though.
In the meantime, I've found myself getting well acquainted with the Big Finish audios. In particular,
Home Truths,
Peri & the Piscon Paradox, and
A Death in the Family have grown to be favorites of mine. Almost makes me wonder why these guys aren't working on the actual series. I mean, if Gatiss, Shearman, and Cornell can make the leap, not sure why Guerrier, Morris, Fountain, or Hall can't.
So Let's Kill Hitler... :wth:
Doctor Who has come back in full force.
You know what? I'm gonna do it. I'm going to start getting into this show, or at least finally give it a shot. I've been putting it off for a while now, but I think it's time.
Hey Insommy, got any particular episode recommendations that I should start with, or can I just jump right in now and not miss a beat?
For a newbie, its best to skip the first 26 years and start with the 2005 season and "Rose". Otherwise... perhaps "Robot". That was the first episode many yanks saw in the 70s.
Quote from: Lord Dalek on August 28, 2011, 11:59:55 PM
For a newbie, its best to skip the first 26 years and start with the 2005 season and "Rose". Otherwise... perhaps "Robot". That was the first episode many yanks saw in the 70s.
Yeah, Rose is definitely your best bet. Though if you want to get caught up fast, watch "Silence in the Library/Forest of the Dead", then go straight to Series 5.
Or you could go the masochist route and start at "An Unearthly Child".
I've been watching this series on and off during the summer, will hopefully catch up since I have my Wii with me now. Surprisingly, my little brother and sister really took to it, I saw them discussing the plots and characters with my fandom-savvy older sister a week ago. It's just mind boggling how such a simple show could capture their imaginations.
Also, I saw a die cast black Dalek at a comic book store and was ready to throw down cash for it, but the dick owner priced it at 50 bucks. No way I'm paying that much for a glorified statue.
Quote from: Rosalinas Spare Wand on September 09, 2011, 02:00:25 AM
I've been watching this series on and off during the summer, will hopefully catch up since I have my Wii with me now. Surprisingly, my little brother and sister really took to it, I saw them discussing the plots and characters with my fandom-savvy older sister a week ago. It's just mind boggling how such a simple show could capture their imaginations.
That's the charm of the series. With the ability to set a story anywhere and any time, along with a cast that frequently gets changed, the possibilities are endless.
QuoteAlso, I saw a die cast black Dalek at a comic book store and was ready to throw down cash for it, but the dick owner priced it at 50 bucks. No way I'm paying that much for a glorified statue.
Yeah, it turns out they're half that price at Amazon. So he was definitely ripping you off there.
Quote from: Rosalinas Spare Wand on September 09, 2011, 02:00:25 AM
Also, I saw a die cast black Dalek at a comic book store and was ready to throw down cash for it, but the dick owner priced it at 50 bucks. No way I'm paying that much for a glorified statue.
Good old comic shops, overcharging you for goods that are easy to find. Extortionists to the extreme.
Grumpy old Samurai Amy for the win.
So anybody seen this yet? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt3qZYUPi2Y) While everyone seems to think it's cool, I don't really see why. I mean, it's just every 90s anime cliche ever with a Dalek or Cyberman put in. Definitely has good animation though.
Quote from: Daxdiv on September 09, 2011, 09:32:30 PM
Good old comic shops, overcharging you for goods that are easy to find. Extortionists to the extreme.
Yup. I found a Movie version Red Skull figure at one in my hometown, it was priced at 16 dollars. I passed on it and found it a few days later at Wal-Mart for 6.50.
Still want that Dalek though, I might be willing to buy one from Amazon since I want to abuse the hell out of my Student perks.
So, are there any good stand-alone episodes (or multi-parters that aren't more than maybe 3 episodes) that are easily accessible to newcomers to the series (classic or new)? Or does one have to commit to picking a particular series and watching it from the beginning in chronological order?
I've gotten bored of watching the various animated series on my backlog, for the time being, so I figured that I'll try and give this show a shot sometime this week if I can.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on September 18, 2011, 11:12:23 PM
So, are there any good stand-alone episodes (or multi-parters that aren't more than maybe 3 episodes) that are easily accessible to newcomers to the series (classic or new)? Or does one have to commit to picking a particular series and watching it from the beginning in chronological order?
I've gotten bored of watching the various animated series on my backlog, for the time being, so I figured that I'll try and give this show a shot sometime this week if I can.
Blink's your best bet. The Eleventh Hour's also one that doesn't really require you to have seen the previous stuff. And The Empty Child/The Doctor Dances as well. Really, up until this season, the show hasn't been too demanding on the viewer to have seen all the previous episodes.
As for the classic series, I'd probably recommend Spearhead From Space, Terror of the Autons, or The Time Warrior since you seem like a Pertwee kind of guy to me.
I've heard other people recommend Blink before. That's the one that has to do with the Weeping Angels if I'm not mistaken, right? Doesn't that also have some follow-up episodes in a later season/series as well?
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on September 19, 2011, 12:01:52 AM
I've heard other people recommend Blink before. That's the one that has to do with the Weeping Angels if I'm not mistaken, right? Doesn't that also have some follow-up episodes in a later season/series as well?
Yeah, Time of Angels/Flesh and Stone.
Well, thanks for the recommendations, then. I'll try and watch the episodes after my Bio-pharmaceutics exam on Tuesday (or possibly even tomorrow if I get done studying early enough).
I just watched the episode Blink. It was pretty good. I did find a few plot points confusing, though; not even stuff relating to the continuity of the series, but just stuff within the episode itself. Still, the concept was neat and the writing and acting were pretty solid for a series of this sort.
I'd try to find more episodes, but they are nearly impossible to find online (and videos on DM don't stream on my computer for some reason, so that options out). I'll have to invest in renting out the DVD sets from Netflix or something when I get the chance.
You can't watch the streams on Netflix?
Not at the moment seeing as how my brother cancelled his account (which is what I was using to stream stuff off of Netflix). Since he's back at college, he may be too busy to watch movies which is why he probably felt it wasn't worth paying for the subscription at the time. I would subscribe to an account myself to stream stuff off of Xbox Live, but unfortunately my gold membership runs out in just a couple of weeks, so it wouldn't be worth subscribing to Netflix unless I was willing to renew my gold membership as well (since it would be kind of silly to be paying about $10 a month just to watch what they have available for streaming on my computer).
So, yeah, things kind of work out to be shitty for me in that way, when there are shows that I really want to watch. ;)
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on September 19, 2011, 07:43:38 PM
I just watched the episode Blink. It was pretty good. I did find a few plot points confusing, though; not even stuff relating to the continuity of the series, but just stuff within the episode itself. Still, the concept was neat and the writing and acting were pretty solid for a series of this sort.
So what was confusing in particular? Was it the whole time loop business, because that element's gonna appear throughout the show.
Well, for one thing, I didn't really get how the Doctor knew some things that he did in the episode, such as where the black guy (sorry, I forget his name) would show up when he got sent back in time (he was there at the exact spot waiting for him) and how he knew exactly what DVDs Sarah would own (and even then Larry was the one who discovered the messages the Doctor had left, so I kind of didn't get the point of that).
I also wasn't sure how the Angels even got the key to the Police Box in the first place, and why they couldn't have gotten to it at any point before.
Of course, I'm sure I just missed some details which is probably the case (they probably explained the whole thing with the police box, but I just assumed that they didn't know where it was until Sally found it below the police station), but I just didn't catch onto the stuff relating to those plot points when I viewed this episode.
At any rate, that's all minor stuff, anyways. It was still a really intriguing and entertaining episode.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on September 19, 2011, 08:28:52 PM
Well, for one thing, I didn't really get how the Doctor knew some things that he did in the episode, such as where the black guy (sorry, I forget his name) would show up when he got sent back in time (he was there at the exact spot waiting for him) and how he knew exactly what DVDs Sarah would own (and even then Larry was the one who discovered the messages the Doctor had left, so I kind of didn't get the point of that).
The Doctor had a timey-wimey detector. As for the DVDs, I always kind of assumed that Sally wrote that in the paper she gave to him.
It's beautiful... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zYt1OsSPaVs)
Okay, I'm taking my sweet time watching the show, but I am really into it. Still only on series 1, but I'll probably be caught up by the time the Christmas special airs.
I can't help but ask which arcs from the original series are worth checking out when I'm done catching up with the new show. I'll try to watch whichever ones I get recommended.
Quote from: Avaitor on October 01, 2011, 10:33:14 PM
Okay, I'm taking my sweet time watching the show, but I am really into it. Still only on series 1, but I'll probably be caught up by the time the Christmas special airs.
I can't help but ask which arcs from the original series are worth checking out when I'm done catching up with the new show. I'll try to watch whichever ones I get recommended.
Only seldom gone into the original run myself, but if I had to say...
1st Doctor: Dalek Invasion of Earth
2nd Doctor: The Mind Robber, Evil of the Daleks if you can stomach the recons, The Invasion
3rd Doctor: Spearhead From Space, Inferno, Mind of Evil, The Time Warrior
4th Doctor: Robots of Death, Talons of Weng-Chiang, City of Death, Genesis of the Daleks, Horror of Fang Rock
5th Doctor: Earthshock, The Five Doctors, Caves of Androzani
6th Doctor: Fuck his TV run. It's his audio dramas where he excels at, like in The One Doctor, The Marian Conspiracy, Peri and the Piscon Paradox, and The Condemned.
7th Doctor: Remembrance of the Daleks, Battlefield, Curse of Fenric, Ghost Light, Survival
8th Doctor: Only has one on-screen story, and it sucks. So for audio, Storm Warning, Chimes of Midnight, Solitaire, and the EDA run with Lucie Miller.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on September 26, 2011, 07:14:15 PM
It's beautiful... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=zYt1OsSPaVs)
Not really a fan of Reign of Terror (or Billy's historicals in general, save for The Aztecs) but its always great to see lost episodes available in a format other than slideshows.
I just finished the episode with Anthony Head, and KI have a couple of notes so far.
1- I'm already greatly preferring Tennant to Eccelston.
2- I hate Mickey. Just go away already.
3- Whenever the Doctor and Rose travel to older periods of time, Rose just walks around in her 2005/06 clothes. What happened to the all-era encompassing closet? Did they just abandon that after the Dickens episode?
Quote from: Avaitor on October 11, 2011, 11:04:40 PM
I just finished the episode with Anthony Head,
Great outing. Bittersweet though now that Lis Sladen passed away.
Quote1- I'm already greatly preferring Tennant to Eccelston.
Hmm. I thought it would've been the other way around.
Quote2- I hate Mickey. Just go away already.
I actually heard people talk about how they feel bad about Mickey with how he got sidelined by Rose and treated like crap for most of Series 1. What do you hate about him in particular, besides the whole third wheel thing going on?
Quote3- Whenever the Doctor and Rose travel to older periods of time, Rose just walks around in her 2005/06 clothes. What happened to the all-era encompassing closet? Did they just abandon that after the Dickens episode?
If I remember correctly, she dresses in a 50s getup for The Idiot's Lantern. Really, the times where Rose was wearing clothes that were time-dissonant, it was usually the TARDIS going the wrong date (Tooth and Claw) or them being forced into a situation where they didn't have time to change (The Empty Child). Though yeah, there are a bunch of times where it seems like the writer of the episode forgets this.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on October 11, 2011, 11:39:18 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on October 11, 2011, 11:04:40 PM
I just finished the episode with Anthony Head,
Great outing. Bittersweet though now that Lis Sladen passed away.
Agreed. If I was better versed in the Doctor Who forelore, I'm sure that I would have enjoyed it even more, but from what I got out of the experience, it's a very strong episode. I can also see it be a prophetic episode in terms of the Doctor and Rose's relationship, in that they won't really have one.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on October 11, 2011, 11:39:18 PM
Quote1- I'm already greatly preferring Tennant to Eccelston.
Hmm. I thought it would've been the other way around.
I like them both, but I think Tennant has more fun overall, and seems like a better match for Rose than Eccleston did. I did like Eccleston's more articulate side however, and I also kind of miss his bickering with Rose's mom. So far all I've seen her in with Tennant is the Christmas special, and he didn't seem to react much to her at all.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on October 11, 2011, 11:39:18 PM
Quote2- I hate Mickey. Just go away already.
I actually heard people talk about how they feel bad about Mickey with how he got sidelined by Rose and treated like crap for most of Series 1. What do you hate about him in particular, besides the whole third wheel thing going on?
It's weird, I kind of agree with people who say that at first, and he was starting to grow on me by the Christmas special, but I don't really like it when they add bonus companions to the show. I think it breaks the Doctor and Rose's chemistry, aside from Captain Jack, who's just too fun not to love.
As for Mickey in particular, I don't exactly know why I dislike him beyond being the third wheel. I guess that's mostly it, since Rose seems bored of him at this point, and his chemistry with the Doctor is a little weird.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on October 11, 2011, 11:39:18 PM
Quote3- Whenever the Doctor and Rose travel to older periods of time, Rose just walks around in her 2005/06 clothes. What happened to the all-era encompassing closet? Did they just abandon that after the Dickens episode?
If I remember correctly, she dresses in a 50s getup for The Idiot's Lantern. Really, the times where Rose was wearing clothes that were time-dissonant, it was usually the TARDIS going the wrong date (Tooth and Claw) or them being forced into a situation where they didn't have time to change (The Empty Child). Though yeah, there are a bunch of times where it seems like the writer of the episode forgets this.
Ah, okay. Yeah, it seems like one of the few errors they consistently get is the need to adapt to the wardrobe of the day.
I mean, you don't want to appear naked in front of the Queen, do you? :sly:
And since you're on Series 2, skip Love & Monsters and Fear Her. Don't watch them at all, they have no bearing on the main plot and will do nothing but piss you off.
I took your advice and skipped those two. However, I just finished series 2 a few minutes ago due to other things keeping me from my Doctor habit.
Initially I thought the finale was cutting it a little too close to the first's, what with the Doctor and Rose taking on Daleks in the warehouse of the secret organization that's been keeping an eye on them all season, but the last 15 or so minutes are a real killer. In a good way I suppose, but I'm really bummed out. I also can't wait to start series 3 tomorrow.
Oh bloody hell, this is gold. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=giaMRyn47Xg&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL)
Yes, it is. Now I have 2 shows I love to associate this song to.
And if you'll excuse me, I'm going to mourn the loss of Marshall's Fiero yet again.
Actually, while this is bumped, I just want to say that I'm about halfway through season 3 now, and I'm liking Martha. I still miss Rose, but I think she's a worthy enough substitute, and I like her arc of debating whether the Doctor cares about her or is just using her to replace Rose. I think it's a suitable storyline considering the relationship he and Rose developed during the first 2 seasons.
Rose Tyler is one of those characters that seems to create major divisions in the fanbase. Those who like her base their opinion largely on the Eccleston-era and less on the rest of the series. Those who despise her base their opinions on several of the folowing series' stories in which RTD turned Who into some quasi-romcom fanfic and then wouldn't let the Doctor get on with his life (who's in the second to last scene of the Tennant-era? FUCKING ROSE!!!) at the expense of development for the underrated Martha Jones.
All of this goes into the main flaw of the RTD-era. That he thought he was Robert Holmes yet only rarely could he tell a great story and frequently got us stuck with characters we either grew to disdain or never cared for.
I don't know what was more overlong, anticlimactic and disappointing, the season 3 finale or the season 4 Christmas special.
Quote from: Avaitor on November 09, 2011, 09:55:47 AM
I don't know what was more overlong, anticlimactic and disappointing, the season 3 finale or the season 4 Christmas special.
As a consolation, there's a small treat in-between the shit sandwich. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szuP0oBZX4g)
Oh wow, that's great. More than makes up for the two eps.
I should be picking up on season 4 later today. Besides a couple of shaky moments, I'm still really enjoying the show.
Just finished "Partners in Crime". My fanboy heart just melted.
Also, I like that Donna's going to stick around for a while. I actually kind of liked her in her first appearance, and she was cool here as well.
One of the most compelling arguments on what Doctor Who is. (http://tardiseruditorum.blogspot.com/2011/11/far-more-than-just-deadly-assassin.html)
Uh... (http://www.toplessrobot.com/2011/11/uh-oh.php#Comments)
I was thinking about the possibility of this recently. Looks like my fears are coming true.
Honestly, why bother making a film franchise based off of the series when the show is still running strong? It's quite pointless. Maybe wait a couple of years for the series to end, if it even does, then let people who actually know what the fuck they're doing give it some thought, but this just sounds awful.
At first, I thought the movie was actually going to feature a crossover between 9, 10, and 11. Then I read the article.
Yeah, so what's the point of this?
Quote from: Avaitor on November 14, 2011, 02:51:15 PM
Honestly, why bother making a film franchise based off of the series when the show is still running strong? It's quite pointless.
They already did it twice in the 60s.
You want really terrifying, in 1998 there was speculation of a Doctor Who movie featuring Gary Oldman and written by...........
Akiva Goldsman.
*reads Gary Oldman* That doesn't seem so bad--*reads Akiva* Oh dear Christ! Thank God we avoided that one! I'd rather have Russell and JNT's ghost produce the show for the next two decades than let him touch it.
For all that's it worth, I actually liked Yates' turn on the HP films, though the quality of the movies usually hinged on JK telling the executives to fuck off whenever they wanted to change something. Don't know how he'll work under more liberal control.
Just saw Timelash. Now if you excuse me, I need to wipe the blood off of my mouth.
Makes The Twin Dilemma look like The Deadly Assassin doesn't it?
Quote from: Lord Dalek on November 17, 2011, 12:37:19 PM
Makes The Twin Dilemma look like The Deadly Assassin doesn't it?
It made me appreciate Love & Monsters, for Christ's sake!
This show has been such an emotional roller coaster since I've started it. The series 4 had everything in it, to the point that I don't know how they'll be able to top it.
But I do know that the rest of the show will be, if nothing else, cool.
"Water of Mars" is so FUCKING BORING. And choppy looking.
I'm sorry, I can't finish this.
Quote from: Avaitor on November 22, 2011, 06:33:02 PM
"Water of Mars" is so FUCKING BORING. And choppy looking.
I'm sorry, I can't finish this.
I actually quite liked Water of Mars. If only because of how much it brutally told the Doctor to fuck off.
It just feels like a 90's point-and-click game to me. I've tried to sit through it twice, but had to stop both times.
I'll just watch "The End of Time" in a moment.
I've been neglecting the show for a little, but I can't help but ask this- is it just me, or does it seem like all of the companions come from broken homes? I mean, Rose's dad died, Martha's parents were divorced, Amy's lives with her aunt, and I have no idea what's up with Donna's father.
Those are just pulling out the main four female examples, but even then, Mickey also lived with his grandma before she died, so I'd presume that his parents are dead too.
Technically, Donna was supposed to have both parents around before the actor who played her dad died. Still, it kind of feels weird.
Huh, didn't know that. But yeah, it's kind of like a Disney Princess thing when you think about it, except more scatter-shot.
I am liking Smith and Amy, but I just haven't had the time to watch much more of the show lately. I want to change that after finals this week though.
A bit late, but it's also interesting to note how according to the spin-offs, Captain Jack lost his dad (and his brother, which is another story), while Sarah Jane's parents died when she was a baby and had to live with her aunt in her formative years.
Ladies and gentlemen, I bring you the new companion (http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2012-03-21/doctor-who-everything-you-need-to-know-about-jenna-louise-coleman).
After two seasons of River, going back to Silence of the Library/Forest of the Dead is all the more heartbreaking.
So in case you've been starving for some Who, here are some stories featuring Seven and his Nazi companion Klein. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b009szrh)
And it appears that the Past Doctor Adventures are back.
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.kasterborous.com%2Fwordpress%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2010%2Fdw-books-wheelice-large.jpg&hash=04c1cd400242a6418d6b752f2dfa510a229a60f7)
So, I just realized that I have access to the complete 2005-2011 Doctor Who series on Netflix. Quick, Dr. Insomniac, recommend me every good episode in the series that you can think of (other than Blink, which I've already seen).
Seriously, just start watching it from Eccleston's run on.
And, where does that start and end?
And stop when you run out of episodes. Although there are a couple you can skip.
Really though, there aren't too many great standalone episodes in the current series, "Blink" aside. To really get an appreciation of the show, it's worth it to watch it all in order. My two favorite episodes, for example, "Let's Kill Hitler" and "The Girl Who Waited", wouldn't be anywhere near as entertaining or memorable if I hadn't seen all of Amy and Rory's storyarc to that point, and would be totally lost on new viewers.
Yep, watch the whole thing. You can tune out after Season 3 if you'd like.
Quote from: Angus on June 22, 2012, 02:06:39 PM
Yep, watch the whole thing. You can tune out after Season 3 if you'd like.
Uh... what?
Quote from: Avaitor on June 22, 2012, 03:22:18 PM
Quote from: Angus on June 22, 2012, 02:06:39 PM
Yep, watch the whole thing. You can tune out after Season 3 if you'd like.
Uh... what?
I think he meant how the Series 3 finale isn't... up to scale.
Well that's true, but it sounded like he said to stop watching after season 3, which I wouldn't recommend at all.
I turned out around Season 5 but actually bothered to buy the box set; it still has some enjoyable episodes.
Bumping since the new season starts this Saturday.
You know, a lot of people are already starting to miss Amy and Rory, but I personally think it's amazing that this is the first time in decades that we had the same Doctor and companions for more than one consecutive series. And we still have them for the first half of this series anyway.
In the meantime, we have a new spin-off consisting of the Doctor fucking with Amy & Rory. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CMdBsc5pQ1k)
Still better than K-9 & Company.
Uh, okay.
Quote from: Avaitor on August 28, 2012, 06:06:24 PM
Uh, okay.
Thanks to Chibnall, we have the Doctor... rapping.
So yeah, solid premiere. I like the new girl, too.
My one question is how exactly will she play the companion next year? Given that she was a Dalek? Will it be a descendant? An ancestor? Is it like with River Song where we just watched her die and have to see what happens to cause that fate?
I'm expecting this series to be as messed up and even more full of paradoxes than the last.
Not sure if that's a good thing or not.
That was... okay.
Although next week's preview has me intrigued. And when I heard "the gunslinger", the first thing that came to mind was Roland Deschain.
The best thing Chibnall's done. Not saying much at all though. It was all right.
I feel like it was wasted potential, especially with Rory's dad. There was hints of there being a feud between the two of them, at least considering how his dad prefers Amy, but they never really went anywhere with that. The dilemma also felt underdeveloped.
And shit, there's another Chibnall story in two weeks. He makes me miss Davies.
Also, Arthur Weasley is the best companion relative. Even more than Wilf.
Another okay one. And is it just me, or has the Doctor been growing increasingly more wrathful this series?
Yeah, that's what leaving Amy and Rory at home after an adventure will do to you. And really, Toby Whithouse should stay with Being Human. Other than School Reunion, all of his stories are just average. And the only reason that the former's good is because of Sladen and Head.
Well, that was odd. Was frankly surprised when it turned out that Kate had been an established character beforehand.
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:frown:
The icing on the cake is seeing who wrote the article.
Well, I know that I'm going to miss the Ponds, but if her first episode was any indication, I think that I'll enjoy Oswin regardless.
I'm rather hoping that it's a relative of Oswin who's the companion, since the idea that the new girl will eventually become a Dalek, go crazy, and then commit suicide kills any idea of being able to find any of her adventures fun.
Well it's Moffat, so you know that the character is going to have a complex backstory and a way more complex ending fleshed out for them. We already know enough for Oswin to give the former justice, so I'm betting that he's going to find a way to make the story leading up to the latter make sense.
So yeah, Gaiman's returning. (http://www.avclub.com/articles/neil-gaiman-to-return-to-doctor-who-cybermen-and-w,88455/)
Pretty cool news.
Quote from: Avaitor on November 07, 2012, 06:36:49 PM
So yeah, Gaiman's returning. (http://www.avclub.com/articles/neil-gaiman-to-return-to-doctor-who-cybermen-and-w,88455/)
Pretty cool news.
And these will be the monsters in his story.
Spoiler
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^Love the new look.
Doctor Who is just my favorite anything ever, and Matt Smith is my bishie.
Also, I prefer to stream it rather than watching it on TV, I feel that the (too)frequent commercials completely ruins the flow and it's just not the same :c
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So, it's been revealed that one of the Series 7 stories will be a two-parter called "Dalek Invasion of Earth". Fans are rumoring that Susan's gonna leave this, but I wouldn't get my hopes up.
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13 days.
Dat jacket... :happytime:
I've been thinking, maybe Moffat should hand off the torch after this season to give more attention to Sherlock.
Am I the only one who thinks this is a good idea?
Quote from: Avaitor on March 18, 2013, 02:48:38 PM
I've been thinking, maybe Moffat should hand off the torch after this season to give more attention to Sherlock.
Am I the only one who thinks this is a good idea?
But to who?
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on March 18, 2013, 06:04:23 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on March 18, 2013, 02:48:38 PM
I've been thinking, maybe Moffat should hand off the torch after this season to give more attention to Sherlock.
Am I the only one who thinks this is a good idea?
But to who?
Good question.
I nominate Neil Gaiman, personally. As long as he can come back to Arthur.
Arthur?
You haven't seen Gaiman's episode of Arthur?
Fix that.
Quote from: Avaitor on March 19, 2013, 07:52:17 PM
You haven't seen Gaiman's episode of Arthur?
Fix that.
I saw that. Falafels.
But honestly, I don't really think that I care about Who anymore. My DVR died on us before I could watch the Christmas special back in December, and I just haven't had the interest to look it up ever since, and now when I see footage of Smith and Coleman around promoting the show, I have no response.
I guess you can blame tumblr fangirls acting like it, Sherlock and Supernatural are the only shows with followings, but honestly, even when I was more ecstatic with the show's existence, I never gave much thought to an episode right after it aired. I have no desire to rewatch any of it, and I don't think I'd ever buy any merchandise or do anything to show my support of the show. I just don't care anymore.
Yeah, I understand. Some people can get so elitist, that they alienate anyone into being interested in what they like. After all, if people put their shows on a pedestal or deafen themselves whenever others offer contrary opinions, then it gets reasonable to somehow correspond the will of the fanatics with the show's actual quality. And while apathy's not a particularly good thing to act upon, but who am I to talk when I've been too busy to watch most of the shows I get recommended? Hell, I've been putting off watching Better Off Ted and Game of Thrones because other stuff (college, skype, therapy, books) gets in the way. I mean, I would if I could, and I'll probably do so by Summer, but I'm swamped. Eitherway, I can't use the "can't be bothered" excuse, but more of a "backlog is threatening to drown me" thing.
It's not always just popularity and elitism that gets in the way of something appealing to me, though. I think Breaking Bad and Mad Men deserve all the appreciation they get, and it's not like HIMYM and Parks don't have huge followings themselves. But Who just kind of stopped clicking for me.
New Who, at least. I'm still interested in trying some more of the original storyarcs out. Hell, I'll probably still be watching the show now, too.
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Anyway, that premiere episode was pretty good. Maybe this makes me come off as a softie, but that reveal at the episode with Miss Kizlet was rather cruel. Does well in highlighting what the season villain will be like.
Here's something I just thought about- each month, BBC airs a new special highlighting each of the Doctors in order. Obviously they'd stop in November, but I've been hearing Matt Smith talking about life beyond the show already.
Do you think it's possible that 11 would regenerate by the Christmas special? Or possibly even during the 50th anniversary?
Not very likely. (http://screencrush.com/doctor-who-matt-smith-2014/)
Alright, although is this set in stone? I mean, on contract.
I'll admit that I'm only speculating, but still.
So, this is happening. (http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/doctorwho/articles/Matt-Smith-to-leave-Doctor-Who)
Called it.
Wow, sudden news there but I figured it would only be a matter of time.
Bigger on the inside. (http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/573935592/were-putting-a-tardis-into-orbit-really)
First watched Doctor Who back in 2011 with the premiere of Series 6 and was like 'huh, what this show about?'
So after watching several episodes (new and classic) I am a big fan of this show and can't wait for the 50th Anniversary special later this year.
Finally, The Sun Makers is my personal favorite story of the Tom Baker/Fourth Doctor era. I've watched it more times than any other classic serial
Spent a good long while recently marathoning everything from Eccleston onwards ('cept, "Love and Monsters") and, currently on "Bells of Saint John". (Simply put: if it didn't have Amy, Rory, Empty Children, River Song (well, River post-Flesh and Stone) or a Pandorica; I probably liked it)
Quick Edit: "End of Time" was also a lil meh though, the Time Lords at the end was cool.
THE TIMELORDS / KLF - Doctorin' The Tardis (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdTELokKfCk)
Very weird project by The KLF. Approx. 20 years later, the association of this song with Gary Glitter is somewhat regretable. :whuh:
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Just a mini rant..
On the evening just before the newest Doctor was revealed, I was talking with a female friend about general sci/fi stuff. When Doctor Who came up in the convo, she mentioned how much she enjoyed the series. I happened to mention how the fourth Doctor, the longest running Doctor, Tom Baker, was one of my all time favorites based on his wacky and fun personality. The conversation fell silent. I swear you could hear crickets chirping from every corner in the room. The empty look on her face! She didn't even know who Tom Baker was. I believe I died just a little.
So... if it's not current, it doesn't exist. :srs:
Quote from: Lord Il on August 24, 2013, 01:29:08 PMSo... if it's not current, it doesn't exist. :srs:
Sounds like this picture (http://www.funnyjunk.com/channel/doctor-who/Some+fangirl/sdgtGfq/) I found when looking for Tom Baker gifs the other day.
It's interesting to see how a lot of fans choose to remain ignorant about the past Doctors.
I'm still not very well versed in the original serials at all, but there's some really cool stuff to check out in there, even if it's not widely consistent.
Quote from: Sheol on August 24, 2013, 07:57:55 PM
Quote from: Lord Il on August 24, 2013, 01:29:08 PMSo... if it's not current, it doesn't exist. :srs:
Sounds like this picture (http://www.funnyjunk.com/channel/doctor-who/Some+fangirl/sdgtGfq/) I found when looking for Tom Baker gifs the other day.
haha! Exactly!
Now I don't feel so bad.
Quote from: Avaitor on August 24, 2013, 08:12:44 PM
It's interesting to see how a lot of fans choose to remain ignorant about the past Doctors.
It is very interesting. ???
So a while ago I called that Smith was retiring Eleven, but what do you think of the possibility that Moffat will step down on his run of the show after this coming series?
I don't have much to call on this besides the heavy implications that River's Doctor is going to be Capaldi, but between working on DW and Sherlock, Moffat has got to be tired and realizes that he doesn't do a great job of running two shows at once. It would make for a fitting end to have River meet her Doctor for the first time and call it a run.
Quote from: Avaitor on November 17, 2013, 09:02:25 PM
So a while ago I called that Smith was retiring Eleven, but what do you think of the possibility that Moffat will step down on his run of the show after this coming series?
I don't have much to call on this besides the heavy implications that River's Doctor is going to be Capaldi, but between working on DW and Sherlock, Moffat has got to be tired and realizes that he doesn't do a great job of running two shows at once. It would make for a fitting end to have River meet her Doctor for the first time and call it a run.
When you say "River's Doctor," what do you mean, exactly?
Quote from: Jay L. Corbell on November 17, 2013, 09:27:14 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on November 17, 2013, 09:02:25 PM
So a while ago I called that Smith was retiring Eleven, but what do you think of the possibility that Moffat will step down on his run of the show after this coming series?
I don't have much to call on this besides the heavy implications that River's Doctor is going to be Capaldi, but between working on DW and Sherlock, Moffat has got to be tired and realizes that he doesn't do a great job of running two shows at once. It would make for a fitting end to have River meet her Doctor for the first time and call it a run.
When you say "River's Doctor," what do you mean, exactly?
Oh, I meant the one she first met and fell in love with, since it's supposedly not Eleven.
It's about 2 1/2 hours til the special!
My local comic book shop and our local British import shop have combined together to show it at a hotel over here, so I'll be hitting that up soon.
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In other news, the Christmas special is airing in the US soon!
Edit: nvm, this is just a repeat of the anniversary special. Why doesn't anyone post in this thread anymore? I know we have viewers. And look! Bruce!
R.I.P. Kate O'Mara (http://www.avclub.com/article/rip-kate-omara-star-dynasty-and-doctor-who-202867)
Coming to Disney XD. (http://www.toonzone.net/2015/04/doctor-who-coming-to-disney-xd)
Has Paltridge actually watched Disney XD? Because if he has he should know that it does air advertising, and did so back when the network was still Toon Disney as well.
In any case, this is a strange decision on Disney's part, but I can't say I wouldn't mind catching the occasional rerun on XD (providing they aren't butchered/censored too much).
Good news, everyone! (http://www.radiotimes.com/news/2016-01-22/doctor-who-showrunner-steven-moffat-quits-to-be-replaced-by-broadchurch-creator-chris-chibnall)
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Hooray. We get the guy who wrote this.
Is Chibnall generally bad? Most reaction I'm seeing is "Yay Moffat's gone, Ehh Chibnall"; I've just never heard his name before now so not sure how to feel.
That gif does look rather weird, though.
He was the head writer on the first two Torchwood seasons, writer of the Silurian two-parter, the Dinosaurs on a Spaceship one, and Power of Three. Outside, he's known for Broadchurch. Both seasons.
Had to check but I remember the Silurian two-parter now. XP This should make for an interesting year, then.
One celebrity fan's happy. (https://twitter.com/WilliamShatner/status/690687630657216513)
Oh yeah, Whittaker and Chinballs next year. You know, as polarizing as his era was, I'm going to miss Moffat. Aside from those lame Peter Harness episodes and that shit with the Monks, I thought he gave Capaldi a great 3 years with genuinely entertaining season finales and an alluring character study. I admit he screwed up Series 7, and he probably should've left earlier, but I like to think his run will hold up in the future. As for Chibnall, I'm cautiously optimistic. I watched the first series of Broadchurch recently to get a feel for his recent writing and for Whittaker's acting. I liked it and thought it was a cool murder mystery, but I heard the seasons after take a massive pitfall.
Chibnall's previous work on Who isn't too good but it's definitely possible that he could do much better as a showrunner than as an episode writer. Admittedly, I haven't watched enough of the series for my opinion to be too informed, but from what I've seen, I feel like Davies was a better showrunner than writer and Moffat was the opposite, so there's some precedent there. I haven't seen any of Broadchurch but I do hear the first season is excellent. I know a lot of folks hate season 2 but the idea behind it intrigues me - at the very least, they tried something unique, which I respect.
*screaming internally*.
Years and Years and It's a Sin were great shows, so I'm excited what RTD brings after his decade away from the series.
I did genuinely think this would be the last Doctor Who thing RTD would film, before I heard this announcement. (https://youtu.be/O0Owoxh7W8I)