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Personally this show appealed to me more than The Simpsons. That isn't to say that I haven't loved what I've seen of the earlier Simpsons episodes, but Futurama just entertained me more than I ever would have expected back when I started watching it. I find everything from the first 4 seasons, and the first direct to video movie, to be quality entertainment. Admittedly I stopped watching it when Comedy Central was airing the new season. It wasn't because the new episodes weren't as interesting to me (I mean, that was the case, but that wasn't why I stopped watching it), but for some reason I just forgot it was on....maybe because it was less interesting to me and hence I forgot about it....so maybe that was the reason after all.
I like Futurama. It came around just as the Simpsons was getting weaker for me.
The new season was hit or miss, but I'll have to admit that I haven't seen every episode yet.
The original stuff will never get old, however.
The best "adult" cartoon, IMO. Some of the newer episodes were kind of weak (That Darn Katz comes to mind), but the majority of them were absolutely hilarious and just as good as the stuff from the earlier seasons.
Since the new season starts this Thursday, I figured I should bump this thread now.
Anyway, I've caught up with what I missed from last season, which somehow only ended up to be one episode.
Overall, the first new season turned out to be pretty good for the most part. I think there were more weak eps here than in previous seasons, but at least the show hasn't made a 180 in its content like Family Guy did when it came back.
If anything, there were too many episodes spoofing current events, like the interspecies marriage and creationism eps, which I felt weren't done too well. Futurama has done a great job with satire before, but some of the episodes didn't feel any special or were done too much better than how some other shows handled them. I think the season was at its best when it stuck to combining the show's signature sharp wit and fun pop culture references with it's sweet side, like "The Late Philip J. Fry", which was m favorite from the season.
If the new season can do more eps like that instead of "That Darn Katz", I can't wait.
I don't know what they were thinking when they did "That Darn Katz". It just seems like an idea that you would have an extremely hard time getting to work.
I don't know how I'll be able to view the new season, since I don't have cable(didn't have cable for the last season either; I had them downloaded but that hard drive got wiped), but I guess I'll get to it eventually.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on December 27, 2010, 11:47:33 PM
Personally this show appealed to me more than The Simpsons. That isn't to say that I haven't loved what I've seen of the earlier Simpsons episodes, but Futurama just entertained me more than I ever would have expected back when I started watching it. I find everything from the first 4 seasons, and the first direct to video movie, to be quality entertainment. Admittedly I stopped watching it when Comedy Central was airing the new season. It wasn't because the new episodes weren't as interesting to me (I mean, that was the case, but that wasn't why I stopped watching it), but for some reason I just forgot it was on....maybe because it was less interesting to me and hence I forgot about it....so maybe that was the reason after all.
That season sucked. Maybe it's because I set my expectations way too high after the 2nd episode became my 2nd favorite or the fact that I missed most of the episodes but yeah, I was not impressed
I actually haven't kept up with it at all because I don't watch Comedy Central any more, but did they really get so heavy handed with their social commentary? That's the one thing I loved about the first 4 seasons was how they took a moderate position and explored all the points while keeping in line with the plot.
To hear that it, like every other adult cartoon, has lowered itself to the Family Guy standard of lunkhead comedy draining "STOP THE SHOW I HAVE SOMETHING IMPORTANT TO SAY" is massively disappointing.
Futurama was awesome because it could do everything and still remain a comedy show at its heart. It should definitely not be taking commentary lessons from Family Guy of all shows.
Quote from: Desensitized on June 21, 2011, 03:52:56 PM
I actually haven't kept up with it at all because I don't watch Comedy Central any more, but did they really get so heavy handed with their social commentary? That's the one thing I loved about the first 4 seasons was how they took a moderate position and explored all the points while keeping in line with the plot.
To hear that it, like every other adult cartoon, has lowered itself to the Family Guy standard of lunkhead comedy draining "STOP THE SHOW I HAVE SOMETHING IMPORTANT TO SAY" is massively disappointing.
Futurama was awesome because it could do everything and still remain a comedy show at its heart. It should definitely not be taking commentary lessons from Family Guy of all shows.
No, I find that to be a HUGE exaggeration, personally. It did get way more obvious with its social commentary, but it didn't get anywhere close to dropping to Family Guy levels of low in that department. Of course, to be fair I missed quite a few episodes in the season, but from what I can tell other people will at least agree that the show is still miles better than Family Guy became after its revival.
It's not as heavy-handed as Family Guy or South Park at all, but the episodes did go overboard with relying on current events to make up a story. It's still Futurama, albeit more socially aware than before.
Futurama is my mature audience targeted comedy of choice. It's the only one other than Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law that I have on DVD
Great characters, hilarious gags and the occasion very touching moment in the mix. It's really sharply written and when it returned it didn't lose any of that charm. It'll probably get tired eventually but for now it never fails to entertain me.
Solid start for the new batch of episodes. Funny way to make some "yo mamma" jokes in the second episode and I thought the Neutopia episode was quite hilarious all around.
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We didn't bump this thread for the list? This is a good one to bring it back on.
Anyone been keeping up with the new eps?
That picture is precisely what makes Futurama the greatest "adult" comedy cartoon of all time.
The right side were cute moments, but nowhere near as touching as the ones on the left or that part at the end of Bender's Big Score.
So they put Futurama up on Netflix here up to the current season (all 98 episodes and 4 movies) and I'm watching through the first comeback season (labeled season 5) and it really is kind of shaky.
Some episodes (The first two episodes, That Darn Katz, The Late Philip J. Fry, and the Bender's mortality and the Lrrr episode) remind me of the old Futurama, in that it has crazy ideas and a plot that is driven by its characters, while other episodes (like the evolution episode which didn't really make very much sense or have much of a point) seem purely made to tackle "issues" or"trends" and instead use characters as mouthpieces or joke machines instead of characters that drive the plot. There are good jokes in these episodes, but they don't feel as natural, Even the better ones like the one with Bender finding the the inspector has way too many limbo jokes for Hermes that frequently make no real sense.
I'm glad the show is back, but I hope season 6 (the proper "7") is more of an improvement back towards the older style.
Also, I don't get the hate behind That Darn Katz, I thought it was hysterical and typical Futurama with unpredictable plot turns and jokes you just don't see coming. I would love more episodes like that.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 20, 2012, 04:32:07 PM
Also, I don't get the hate behind That Darn Katz, I thought it was hysterical and typical Futurama with unpredictable plot turns and jokes you just don't see coming. I would love more episodes like that.
I didn't find it funny in the slightest. I actually think it might be my least favorite episode in the entire series aside from that godawful holiday special. I'd rather watch Beast With A Billion Backs in all honesty.
Those aside, I don't really understand the hate the newer seasons receive. They're a bit weaker than the original ones, sure, but they're still very funny, even when they tackle current events and stuff.
The new seasons are mediocre in comparison to the original run, but there's still some funny moments in there. It's certainly better than modern Simpsons, if nothing else.
I don't even really find it mediocre, more like completely lopsided in quality. When it focuses on just being itself, it's good. When it tries to be ambitious, it feels forced and obvious robbing it of any punch or unpredictability.
Quote from: Foggle on February 20, 2012, 04:50:29 PMI'd rather watch Beast With A Billion Backs in all honesty
:srs:
Yeah, those movies are pretty awful. The first one is watchable, along with parts of Benders Game, but for the most part they're pretty bad.
IMO: Bender's Big Score and the first half of Bender's Game are quite good. Into The Wild Green Yonder, the second half of Bender's Game, and the first half of Beast With A Billion Backs are watchable at worst. The second half of Beast With A Billion Backs is just awful.
I thought Bender's Big Score was hilarious. Don't know what everyone else was watching, but IMO that movie was the closest to feeling like classic Futurama, in that it had almost everything I liked about the series' sense of humor in it. The rest of the movies were pretty lame, though, but Bender's Game did give me a few laughs, at least.
I really like Bender's Big Score. It's just a shame that the other movies are nowhere near as good as it is.
I only watched Bender's Big Score and the Beast with a Billion Backs. I loved Big Score through and through since it did have the same comedy feel, along with all those emotional feels this show can bring out in me. While with Beast with a Billion Backs, I was questioning what the hell was I watching all the way through. I never watched any other of the DTVs after that due to laziness.
I love Bender's Big Score because of the same reasons as Dax. That subplot with Lars and his flashback wasn't as up there as the Seymour or Fry's nephew flashbacks, but it did invoke the same feeling from me. I also quite enjoy Beyond the Wild Green Yonder. I'm not sure why. I just like the whole Light one/Dark one plot because it feels like it'd be epic enough for a movie plot, though it never really lived up to that potential.
Beast With A Billion Backs? It feels like a regular episode padded out over four, and comes off as unfunny and obnoxious after Bender's Big Score. Hell, they basically ignore the big tear in the universe for the first half-hour, and after it being the cliffhanger in the last movie, it just kind of sucks how it's handled in here.
Bender's Game? Fuuuuuuck that movie. Another case of a plot worthy of one episode being stretched over four. The whole Lord of the Rings parody just comes off as awkward and stupid after the movie started with that plot at Mom's HQ.
As for seasons 5 and 6, I think they're all right. I do feel that they're weaker than the initial run, and there are a few too many jokes where it just feels like they're trying to show how much they can get away with now that they're on Comedy Central (Amy's orgy gag, Leela's outfit in the gender-swap episode), but I still enjoy the show more than Simpsons, Family Guy and Cleveland at this point.
Plus, Futurama has always been a "comfort show" for me, in which I mean I could watch it and/or marathon it at anytime with now problem if I'm bored, like with American Dad, Archer, or South Park.
I finished off "season 5" by watching the mutant revolt and holiday episodes and my opinion on the season remains unchanged. Completely lopsided. The mutant episode was good, but the holiday one was just dumb.
I'll end up watching the next 13 soon enough, but I'm not anticipating a drastic increase in quality considering its the same season just chopped into two.
So I just started watching whichever season Volume 6 is (the newest one). Have to say that the first four episodes have really impressed me. Still not quite as good as the original four seasons (though Silence of the Clamps & Law and Oracle come very close), but it's easily better than the movies and most of Volume 5 so far. I was extremely happy to see that they finally brought back the original intro (the longer one with an old cartoon clip at the end) in Benderama. Hope it's in the episodes after that one, too.
I also watched the first few episodes of season "6" just recently. Law & Oracle was great, and I'm about to watch Silence Of The Clamps, but the ghost one was pretty funny. Fry's last line after Bender saves his life is one of the funniest things in the entire show.
The gender swap and Bender clone ones I could have done without, though. They seemed a bit too forced, IMO.
Haven't seen the ghost or gender swap episode yet. I didn't like the Bender clone episode that much, either, but it was far better than any of the weaker installments from the previous season. The other episode I saw was Mobius Dick. That one was absolutely hilarious, though the ending was kinda' lame.
I don't really like the gender swap episode that much either, but the rock monster was hilarious.
"Perhaps it was I who learned the lesson... or something."
Quote from: Nel on March 04, 2012, 07:54:05 PM
I don't really like the gender swap episode that much either, but the rock monster was hilarious.
"Perhaps it was I who learned the lesson... or something."
Haha, yeah. He had some good lines. I also love everybody's disappointed reactions when he shows up again.
Such a weird character.
So I got through season 6 and I thought it was an improvement. There's still a few forgettable episodes, but as a whole it definitely feels like a step up from season 5. And there were no horrendously awful ones, either.
As a whole, only The Late Philip J. Fry comes close to touching series peaks like Godfellas, Jurassic Bark, Bender's Big Score, or Roswell That Ends Well, and as a whole it just doesn't match up to the first 4 seasons. But there are some really good episodes like Law & Oracle, Mobius Dick, That Darn Katz! (well, I liked it), Ghost In The Machines, Cold Warriors, Lrrreconcilable Ndndifferences, The Mutants Are Revolting, the two premiere episodes, Overclockwise, and Tip Of The Zoidberg are the strongest episodes by far.
On the other hand there were some misses like Reincarnation, Neutopia, Holiday Spectacular, A Clockwork Origin, Benderama, The Duh-Vinci Code, and Attack Of The Killer App just didn't work all that well and feel like a waste of time.
So it was overall a pretty average season. Which is a shame purely because Futurama has never actually had an average season before. But there are enough highlights to hope for improvement in season 7.
Do you count volume 5 as season 5 and volume 6 as season 6, or do you count the movies as season 5 and volumes 5 & 6 as season 6?
Quote from: Foggle on March 08, 2012, 02:26:42 PM
Do you count volume 5 as season 5 and volume 6 as season 6, or do you count the movies as season 5 and volumes 5 & 6 as season 6?
Oh God, the movie situation...
I kind of just put it at:
Season 1
Season 2
Season 3
Season 4
Bender's Big Score
Beast With A Billion Backs
Bender's Game
Into The Wild Green Yonder
Season 5 (13 episodes)
Season 6 (13 episodes)
I don't really count the chopped up movies as episodes.
So, I finally managed to mostly catch up with the series. I still have 3 episodes of season 6 left, but I've pretty much gone through most of the new (well, not so new anymore, but at least relative to the rest of the series) episodes since the series started airing on Comedy Central.
Honestly, I still think its really good. Season 5 got off to an awkward start and had some pretty crappy episodes in the run, but I feel that we got some really funny episodes during the 2nd half of the season. Then season 6 came along and up until now it has been a lot more consistent than season 5. I suppose if I had to give out one problem I have with these 2 seasons, its that while they have enough good episodes, there's nothing I've seen from them that truly stands out, something that I could consider to be on par with the best episodes of this series (something that each of the first 4 seasons have at least a few of). There isn't one episode I can point out to that is downright brilliant in execution and that I would re-watch multiple times. That said most episodes that I have seen were entertaining and were still fairly well in-line with this series' sense of humor, and I'm still glad that the series even got these 2 seasons.
Basically, I'd still say it deserves its high rank on our top 65 animated series list.
It was fine, but nothing really all that spectacular. Hopefully they learned for the newer stuff, because a lot of that stuff was just boring.
I didn't find season 6 boring at all, and I liked a good chunk of episodes from season 5 whereas there were a few I just hated. I think the only parts of the series where I was just left downright bored and feeling indifferent to anything were with 3 of the 4 movies (Bender's Big Score was the only one I genuinely enjoyed).
Season 6 as a whole was better than 5, for sure, but there was nothing that really stood out to me. It was awful, but it wasn't all that engaging for me.
Well, that's basically the same thing I said, but even so it still had a good run of episodes, IMO. That is to say, I still enjoyed what I watched, even if it wasn't anything memorable. Besides, I'm just glad that the TV episodes were a huge step up from the movies, which to me were the lowest point of the series (not that they were all that bad, but they were pretty bland, to be honest). Basically they've had 2 attempts at the series since then and have gotten better with each one. So, going by that track record, if we ever see a season 7, I wouldn't be surprised if we finally got some high-profile episodes again. There were a couple in season 6 that had the potential to be great, if that means anything at all.
I don't know if they'll reach lows as bad as BWABB, season 5 came close in spots, but I can only hope that season 7 will be a step back towards how good the first 4 seasons and movie was. It's kind of hard to judge since season 6 was the same production run as 5, so hopefully they learned as they were making them and judged reception accordingly.
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Fuck everything.
I don't get it
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I think Insommy needs a nap.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 14, 2012, 07:55:02 PM
I think Insommy needs a nap.
BUT HE CAN'T SLEEP BECAUSE HE'S ON REDDI... *shot*
The next episode should be airing tonight.
I really did not like the season premiere though. It's the kind of overly political crap that the show relies on too much ever since it's been renewed, and will surely become dated in no time.
How's the show these days?
I dunno, I got bored halfway through last season and just stopped watching.
Really went downhill after Bender's Big Score IMO. There's still the occasional great episode, but I've stopped caring about Futurama at this point.
Like Scully-era Simpsons, where everything feels weird and the writers just seem bored.
^That.
There are good episodes, but I think I'd rather just Netflix the good ones.
I still record each week, but like all of my other shows, I'm way behind. And I'm really starting to not care if I do catch up.
Maybe I should put this on the unpopular opinions board, but I disagree with all of you. I enjoy quite a bit of the output from season 6, in particular. The show isn't ever as close to as strong as it was pre-Bender's Big Score, but I'd say that I like more than half of the episodes from each season, and there are only really a few episodes in each that are downright bad (mostly because they are just flat-out boring more than anything else).
I haven't been watching any episodes of the current season, but that's only because I don't have access to the Comedy Central channel using my University's cable.
The show isn't at Simpsons territory, where I stopped watching ages ago and hope for its cancellation, and certainly not near Family Guy territory, where I just don't give a fuck about its existence anymore, past or present, but the consistency is way off.
And the topical episodes really need to die. That's still my main problem with the show.
Yeah, new Futurama's not bad at all, it just doesn't make me laugh. It bores me about 60% of the time.
Since I don't watch CC for any reason anymore, I tend to forget it on. But the show isn't good enough now that I'd be willing to go out my way to watch it unless it was on a service like Netflix.
The only show that does topical events well is Boondocks, and only because they use the ones so outlandish they may as well be made-up. While South Park, Simpsons, Family Guy, and Futurama take the "grab current event and make thinly-veiled jabs at it for twenty minutes" route.
South Park is pretty hit or miss on the topical stuff. Sometimes they're right on the money, and it's hilarious. Other times, not so much. Futurama and Family Guy are horrible at topical humor, though, IMO.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on August 29, 2012, 05:59:52 PM
The only show that does topical events well is Boondocks, and only because they use the ones so outlandish they may as well be made-up. While South Park, Simpsons, Family Guy, and Futurama take the "grab current event and make thinly-veiled jabs at it for twenty minutes" route.
Boondocks is overrated. I like the show on the whole, but I fail to see how it does topical events that well. I just feel like people love to say that for whatever they feel is the least mainstream series of the time relative to other shows in the same genre.
Also, my main problem with the show is its characters. Riley is an annoying kid (I know he's written the way he is on purpose, but he contributes no humor to the show in my eyes), and Hughey is an unlikable douche know-it-all (or so he thinks). The characters used to entertain me but now I see them as just plain unpleasant.
I like South Park. Its hit or miss, and some of its current event episodes are stale, but it never comes off like its trying too hard to force its viewpoints down your throat, either, so it never pisses me off when there's a badly done topical events episode. Also, I think there are quite a bit more well-done South Park episodes from the past couple of seasons than most people these days give the series credit for. I mean, for a show that has each episode made in only a week, I still find it more entertaining than most animated comedy shows of the same type that I know of, personally.
Well South Park I forgive because yeah, they hit a lot of things right on the money and is often funny in its results. I think it dates itself way too quickly though, but even that's okay, since it has become such a cultural touchstone at this point that people can easily go back to early episodes and remember how much of a big deal we put into such nonsensical bullshit like Britney Spears' breakdown and the effects of Jersey Shore.
SP also gets away with this since it's always been topical. Futurama has had plenty of references to modern culture since its beginning, but it never went out of its way to mock our society and stuck to building their society back then. The newer episodes are going to suffer in the long run for this and feel awkward in comparison.
No one's going to look back at the Election 3012 episode and consider it a classic along with "Godfellas" or "Hell is Other Robots".
Yeah, like anybody except crazy people give a damn about a joke on the Birther movement.
And as for the Boondocks, I prefer the less topical episodes myself, but I mean, it has a documentary episode with Werner Herzog and MLK coming to life to call BET the worst thing he's ever seen.
It's hard to knock stuff like that.
I agree with Avaitor' sentiment. With a show like South Park, it has had topical humor and was heavy on social commentary since early on. A show like Futurama is a different case entirely, though. Its a show that was great because of having well-written humor that's easy for most people to understand. It may have occasionally had a little social commentary or possibly a jab at some current event, but it never based entire episodes on any such thing. While I do still enjoy the current seasons for the most part, I feel like what holds them back is how the writers seem to feel the need to be like every other "current" animated comedy show out there in terms of pandering to the "current events" type of crowd. It doesn't even feel like the writers like that type of humor, themselves. It just feels like they are doing it because they think they have to in order to boost their ratings (it'd certainly be a sad thing if that is in fact the truth).
Quote from: Avaitor on August 29, 2012, 06:07:34 PM
Well South Park I forgive because yeah, they hit a lot of things right on the money and is often funny in its results. I think it dates itself way too quickly though, but even that's okay, since it has become such a cultural touchstone at this point that people can easily go back to early episodes and remember how much of a big deal we put into such nonsensical bullshit like Britney Spears' breakdown and the effects of Jersey Shore.
Well, the thing I like about South Park is that the really good episodes either aren't about current events or are still funny even without knowledge of them. Like one of my favorite episodes of SP, last season's 1%. The OWS jokes weren't very funny to begin with, but the rest will remain hilarious even 50 years from now IMO.
To me it seems like Comedy Central imposes on the Futurama writers to add more cutting edge humor to it, so they have an alternative to South Park during the summer. Almost like Futurama couldn't hold its own if it stuck to the kind of humor and storytelling it excelled with in the original run.
Quote from: Avaitor on August 29, 2012, 06:11:34 PM
And as for the Boondocks, I prefer the less topical episodes myself, but I mean, it has a documentary episode with Werner Herzog and MLK coming to life to call BET the worst thing he's ever seen.
I did really like the MLK episode, myself, but that wasn't really a "current events" episode. It was more of a general social commentary episode, and social commentary and topical current events certainly aren't one in the same.
As for South Park, I tend to agree with how Doug Walker put it when he listed it was one of his favorite shows: The humor is so well done in a lot of the classic episodes that people end up sometimes remembering the current event that it was parodying because of how good the parody was.
Also, I know I'm alone on this one, but I don't feel that the show dates itself just because it often parodies current events. I can still go back to a lot of episodes and still find them funny because they still have witty humor that is fun to enjoy even if you don't remember what the hell it was making fun of. The humor is done in such a way that the world of South Park is filled with bizarre people and events, so it just feels like part of the shows nature more than it does the show parodying the real world (at least to me).
I dunno, I'm pretty burnt out on topical humor as a whole, but I still think SP's best episodes are the ones where the kids are just being kids.
Topical humor can be done right though, as can be seen by Colbert. But then, nobody goes back and watches old TCR episodes.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on August 29, 2012, 06:18:59 PM
I dunno, I'm pretty burnt out on topical humor as a whole, but I still think SP's best episodes are the ones where the kids are just being kids.
Even those episodes have some form of social commentary in them, though, for the most part.
Also, while I do love those episodes myself, they are special for a reason, which is that they aren't done too often. If the entire show was like that then it'd eventually get stale before too long and none of those particular episodes would really stand out anymore.
As for me, I'm not really burnt out on any specific type of humor, myself. I just like well-done humor. If it can make me laugh, then its good, though to be fair humor is a very subjective thing, no matter what kind it is.
You know how when The Simpsons was starting to suck, they were making non-THOH three-part anthologies based on the family being something (folk tales, Bible characters, etc.)? This Futurama episode feels exactly like that.
Don't forget the Christmas episode from the first CC season.
I still like Futurama. Haven't caught up completely to the current season, but that's because I can't seem to remember in time that it's on Wednesdays instead of Thursdays. From what I've seen, it's been funny but there hasn't been anything spectacular yet. I did think last season had some good gems in it though.
I want to mention that I quite enjoyed the most recent episode I saw, the one where Fry became a neanderthal. It has a lot of the science-fiction oriented storytelling and tender emotional moments that I love from a lot of the show's best episodes, and some good stuff, like Bender "earning" his way to first prize.
Although it does bring up another problem I have with these later episodes- when Leela breaks up with Fry, he acts surprised that they were even going out. Were they? It seems like they are in some episodes, while in other it doesn't at all. It shouldn't bother me as much as I do, but it does a lot.
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This could be either really good or really bad.
Quote from: Daxdiv on January 29, 2013, 10:46:33 PM
This could be either really good or really bad.
It's post-revival Futurama.
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Quote from: Daxdiv on January 29, 2013, 10:46:33 PM
This could be either really good or really bad.
It's post-revival Futurama.
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Why do you have to dash my dreams, DAD?
To be fair, a broken clock is right twice a day. This could turn out to not be awful.
It's been shitcanned again.
...Finally. Now we just need Fox to dump Family Guy and The Simpsons and we'll be set.
While they relied a little too much on topics like South Park at times, I liked the newer seasons. That one Christmas special was the only real stinker. I hope Adult Swim picks them up like they were about too, because I think they can still have at least a couple more good seasons left.
Eh, 140 episodes is a good run. The Comedy Central episodes weren't all bad (except for that one holiday special), but they were noticeably of a lower quality then the ones preceding them. I'd rather the series bow out now than continue and get progressively worse, as I wouldn't want to start disliking something that I once loved.
Quote from: Goldstar on April 22, 2013, 02:14:49 PM
Eh, 140 episodes is a good run. The Comedy Central episodes weren't all bad (except for that one holiday special), but they were noticeably of a lower quality then the ones preceding them. I'd rather the series bow out now than continue and get progressively worse, as I wouldn't want to start disliking something that I once loved.
I second that emotion. Better to go out now than later when the quality could be worse.
At least Futurama got additional seasons on another network. That's more than Dilbert, Mission Hill or Megas XLR ever got.
Honestly, the show had a good run in the first place. The later episodes had some highlights, but were mostly unnecessary.
B&B however, that had a great new season. It looks like it's done as well, sadly.
It's about due.
Hmm, I didn't think the new seasons were all that bad, aside from the occasional clunker. That said, I'm not sad at all to see the series end again (although as always I'm sorry for the people who are loosing their jobs). It's just that the original run was almost flawless, and the revival seasons and movies just seem so superfluous to me. I certainly could've lived without them.
However, The Simpsons and Family Guy should've before this. I actually enjoy many newer episodes of The Simpsons each season while I lost interest in Family Guy years ago, but both have been mediocre or just plain awful (in Family Guy's case, mostly) too much of the time and for far too long. I don't think FOX is going to cancel them anytime soon, though, especially The Simpsons since somehow it's actually beating Family Guy in the ratings nowadays.
Part of me thinks that The Simpsons might end with this coming season, the 25th, since it's a nice number and the show's merchandise, the main reason it's stayed on for so long, has stopped selling as much as it used to, to the point that the voice actors had to take a pretty big dock in pay to keep it going.
But I'm not calling that yet, since that just makes too much sense to happen, and Fox will probably keep on trucking until one of the VAs dies, since there's no way they can rightfully replace any of them at this point.
I think the cast took a pay cut to specifically get the 25th season ordered so that's probably going to be it.
Funny that the Simpsons is beating Family Guy in the ratings now, though.
Yeah. I also remember reading that Seth wanted to end FG around this point as well, but I don't think that's happening.
I think his plans were to end the show and work on his Flintstones reboot, but he must have got cold feet at the 11th hour and dropped that to keep Family Guy afloat and keep on earning that revenue. This would make a lot of sense when you think about it.
...and so, History repeats itself. (http://www.toonzone.net/forums/toonzone-general-animation-discussion/273671-i-think-simspons-will-end-25th-season.html)
Quote from: Avaitor on April 22, 2013, 05:34:35 PM
Yeah. I also remember reading that Seth wanted to end FG around this point as well, but I don't think that's happening.
I think his plans were to end the show and work on his Flintstones reboot, but he must have got cold feet at the 11th hour and dropped that to keep Family Guy afloat and keep on earning that revenue. This would make a lot of sense when you think about it.
I don't think the
Flinstones reboot is outright cancelled, but the production is just delayed for now. Seth MacFarlene seems to be doing a lot of projects right now: he's filming another movie, and is an executive producer for a new live-action comedy series.
Here's some links: http://www.daily-times.com/farmington-news/ci_22909062/seth-macfarlanes-new-western-comedy-may-film-shiprock
http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/seth-green-star-fox-seth-macfarlane-dads-ted-430816
http://animationguildblog.blogspot.com/2013/04/prime-time-animation.html
Apparently most of what Seth MacFarlene does on
Family Guy nowadays is just okaying the scripts and stuff. He probably could just leave the show altogether if any of his other projects became more successful/had the potential to be more successful than
Family Guy in it's current state.
I feel that the entire Animation Domination lineup is pretty much done for anyway. The ratings for every show have been declining at a pitiful rate.
Family Guy premieres a couple years ago used to get 8 million viewers. Now they are lucky to get 4 or 5 million. They've been trying to find ways to kill off
American Dad since 2008 (for some reason), and
Bob's Burgers is still around mainly because it didn't outright bomb and they needed the variety. If
The Simpsons and
Family Guy both go, no way would they keep around
American Dad and
Bob's Burgers for very long. If
The Simpsons ends next year, and
Family Guy follows it a year or so after, then the whole Animation Domination block would be dead by 2017.
Quote from: Cartoon X on April 22, 2013, 08:14:08 PM
Apparently most of what Seth MacFarlene does on Family Guy nowadays is just okaying the scripts and stuff. He probably could just leave the show altogether if any of his other projects became more successful/had the potential to be more successful than Family Guy in it's current state.
You think Seth could get away with leaving his voices on the show?
And correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Family Guy always been more of an important deal on [adult swim] than in its Fox airings? Either way, I can see that the show isn't as popular as it used to be. A few years ago, I couldn't stop hearing most of my friends talk about it. Now, almost none of them watch it anymore.
Quote from: Avaitor on April 22, 2013, 08:17:34 PM
You think Seth could get away with leaving his voices on the show?
Oops. :sweat: I meant that he could probably leave the show in terms of performing producer/director/writer kind of roles and focus on his other projects full time. Obviously he would still have to work on the show in his voice over roles, but that wouldn't likely take up all of his time.
Quote from: Avaitor on April 22, 2013, 08:17:34 PM
And correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't Family Guy always been more of an important deal on [adult swim] than in its Fox airings? Either way, I can see that the show isn't as popular as it used to be. A few years ago, I couldn't stop hearing most of my friends talk about it. Now, almost none of them watch it anymore.
[adult swim] pretty much functions on
Family Guy and other FOX show reruns, and no doubt FOX knows this and milks them for a lucrative broadcasting fee. New episodes of
Family Guy definitely benefit [adult swim], but FOX might not care about that if they feel the cost of making new
Family Guy episodes outweigh the benefits. If the ratings continue on their downward spiral, then I doubt that FOX will keep making new episodes for much longer.
While its passing is sad, I'm glad Futurama is bowing out before it get worse, which is more than I can say for other Fox shows.
I wonder what Fox will do when they can no longer rely on a select few long runners
It was a good run. I was fine with the revival, since it gave the writers some time off to recharge their batteries. Sure, it wasn't as strong as the original run, but I enjoyed it regardless. It didn't immediately go kerplunk like Family Guy's revival; they still had some quality episodes in there.
Thank you, CC, for reviving it for a few more enjoyable seasons and not letting it overstay its welcome like Fox would have. I'll miss it as it (hopefully) ends gracefully.
For what its worth, I actually liked season's 6 and 7 for the most part, but if this is indeed the end of the series (for real this time), I'm 100% fine with that. In fact, like most people, I think its better to let the series lay as it is, and then it can still retain its status as one of my favorite cartoons of all time, though that's still mostly thanks to the first 4 seasons. I have a bad feeling that if the series were allowed to continue, it would probably just drag itself through the mud and get painfully bad, eventually.
Cleveland, Futurama...
Uh, Family Guy? Anyone? :humhumhum:
Quote from: Kiddington on April 23, 2013, 02:35:06 AM
Cleveland, Futurama...
Uh, Family Guy? Anyone? :humhumhum:
In due time.
Quote from: Kiddington on April 23, 2013, 02:35:06 AMCleveland, Futurama...
Uh, Family Guy? Anyone? :humhumhum:
Although I would like to see it go as much as anyone else, it's not happening. It and
The Simpsons are way too popular for Fox to just pull the plug on. Fox even renewed it (http://animationguildblog.blogspot.ca/2013/04/prime-time-animation.html) this year.
Quote from: Peanutbutter on April 22, 2013, 11:46:11 AM
I hope Adult Swim picks them up like they were about too, because I think they can still have at least a couple more good seasons left.
Actually, I'm hearing that Fox is interested in taking it's shows off of Adult Swim once the contracts end so they can put the reruns on their new FXX channel(the FX cable channel is splitting into to two channels later this year, one for comedies, one for dramas), so I don't see it coming back to AS, if it comes back at all.
That'd probably be a nail in the coffin for AS. I'm pretty sure none of their other shows get even close to as high of the ratings that Family Guy gets on that block. I don't think that block itself is even that popular, anymore. Last time I checked, none of its shows got particularly impressive ratings (once again, with the exception being FG).
I think that the reruns of Robot Chicken must be doing well for the block, since Adult Swim has been running them consistently for a few years now, but yeah, if the FOX reruns leave the block, I'm guessing that AS's weeknight ratings will sink like a lead balloon covered in fat people. Besides RC and Aqua Teen, what does AS have to offer on weeknights? Turner could just give the hours of 9 PM to 11 PM back to Cartoon Network, which would be a good thing if CN were to use those hours for something other than encores.
There are some hardcore fans of [as], to the point that they're sick of Fox shows taking up space on the block. At one con, some of the people who worked for them asked fans if they wanted to see Simpsons on there, and got an overwhelming negative response.
But those hardcore fans do not outweigh the people who just don't care about most of their original shows. Robot Chicken, Boondocks and Venture are probably the only shows that would be missed if [as] go.
Both The Boondocks and The Venture Brothers are good shows, but they're both more expensive to produce than the average Adult Swim show, and as such, the gaps between new seasons can get pretty long. I don't know how well AS would fare with those shows airing every night.
As for The Simpsons, that won't be airing on any cable channel until the series is done on FOX. There was talk of FOX launching a Simpsons channel a while back (of which there certainly wouldn't be a lack of material for), but that likewise won't happen until the series ends for good.
Quote from: Comeau on April 24, 2013, 11:27:34 AMActually, I'm hearing that Fox is interested in taking it's shows off of Adult Swim once the contracts end so they can put the reruns on their new FXX channel(the FX cable channel is splitting into to two channels later this year, one for comedies, one for dramas), so I don't see it coming back to AS, if it comes back at all.
AS still has
Family Guy for two more years, so they'll remain afloat on that for a while. They also won't be losing
King of the Hill, since that's the syndication package.
The Cleveland Show probably won't last long since it only has a few episodes left. I'm not sure about
American Dad, though.
Is Futurama really ending? It sucks to see a show with infinite potential go.
Quote from: gunswordfist on May 05, 2013, 02:06:48 PM
Is Futurama really ending? It sucks to see a show with infinite potential go.
Yes, it is. The last few seasons have shown signs of wear though, so it's not a terrible loss. It's better for it to go now than to degrade into something totally unwatchable.
Yep, Futurama's ending...but I'm not disappointed. I can't bring myself to say "Oh, no! It can't end now! It's only been 140 episodes!" That's a good run, more than most shows get. Plus, I noticed a slight but gradual slackening in the writing and stories since the revival (I mean, when was the last time they even did an episode about the delivery service? I'm not saying that every single story had to focus on that, but that is why the cast were all together, and those eps were fun), and if Futurama had been allowed to continue, it likely would've just continued to slowly go south, so I'd rather it leave while it's still relatively good than have it continue to drag on and become a zombie and have me start to dislike it. I'm relieved, actually.
Quote from: Silverstar on May 05, 2013, 02:47:46 PM
Yep, Futurama's ending...but I'm not disappointed. I can't bring myself to say "Oh, no! It can't end now! It's only been 140 episodes!" That's a good run, more than most shows get. Plus, I noticed a slight but gradual slackening in the writing and stories since the revival (I mean, when was the last time they even did an episode about the delivery service? I'm not saying that every single story had to focus on that, but that is why the cast were all together, and those eps were fun), and if Futurama had been allowed to continue, it likely would've just continued to slowly go south, so I'd rather it leave while it's still relatively good than have it continue to drag on and become a zombie and have me start to dislike it. I'm relieved, actually.
Pretty much this.
It had a good run and I can still at least gladly say that its one of my favorite shows ever, with or without the post-revival episodes, which do admittedly drag down its quality, but bring enough quality of their own to still keep the series's status as a great cartoon.
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg2.timeinc.net%2Few%2Fi%2F2013%2F06%2F19%2Ffuturama-seth-macfarlane_612x736.jpg&hash=0a652679b3c598358637eff3b1cf528bd434438e)
Now you realize why we had to put your dog down, boy.
WHAT THE FUCK
NO
I HOPE ITS CANCELLATION GETS CANCELLED JUST SO THE SHOW CAN BE CANCELLED AGAIN IMMEDIATELY THEREAFTER
I was just about to post this.
But yeahhhhhh, I can't see this possibly turning out well.
All I see on the facebook page is backlash.
I hope this is just a hallucination or something. Why cheapen something as special as Seymour?
Welp, if this is as bad as I think it is, no way in hell I can defend the Post-revival seasons anymore. Seriously, even Zombie Simpsons hasn't fucked up THIS bad.... :srs:
Billy West remains optimistic.. (http://theweek.com/article/index/245828/interview-futurama-star-billy-west-thinks-the-series-isnt-really-ending)
This must be why CC canned the show again.
Thank goodness!
The new episodes that aired today were pretty good.
Well...the newest episodes were pretty great. Hopefully that Seymor episode is a ways off and isn't as bad as I fear it will be. And if it is awful, hopefully it will be the only awful episode of the season. Send the show off on a high note and whatnot.
Alright, that twist with the human habitat was pretty cool. I really liked both premieres.
I like Futurama. Other than the obvious character designs, this is a series which never felt as much like a Matt Groening creation when compared with The Simpsons. For myself, the characters managed to stay fresh and the writing has been fairly solid and fun. While its fate might be uncertain at this point, we'll definitely be left with some truly memorable characters.
"with credits in everything from Nickelodeon's Doug (as both Doug Funnie and Roger Klotz), The Ren & Stimpy Show (as both Ren and Stimpy), and Space Jam (as both Bugs Bunny and Elmer Fudd)."
I had no clue...
Quote from: Lord Il on June 19, 2013, 06:23:09 PM
Billy West remains optimistic.. (http://theweek.com/article/index/245828/interview-futurama-star-billy-west-thinks-the-series-isnt-really-ending)
I saw the end of the Farnsworth's parents episode. I was shocked to find out about them and it seemed like one of those special episodes. I thought the ending was really touching. I thought it over and now I'm not going to ignore this season and will actually watch it ;D
Tonight's episode was pretty good...better than what I was expecting considering the promos they had for it. That said it wasn't an exceptional episode either, merely good, but still I laughed a lot of times. The season is off to a good start so far; hopefully we won't have many clunkers as it goes on.
Eh, nothing in it really made me laugh. Lrrr is a favorite character of mine though.
Yeah, this one, "T: The Terrestrial" didn't really do it for me, either. It wasn't terrible, but they've definitely done better.
Aaaand this folk-singing episode sucked too. Man, if the episodes continue at this quality, this is going to be a sorry final season.
They did another folk singing episode?
I'm typically not a fan of the "three segments" episodes on this show. I found "Reincarnation" and "Naturama" rather dull.
However, I LOVED this week's episode. :lol: It's very reminiscent of the studio loan episode from Animaniacs. The parodies were spot-on.
Well fuck. After a whole season of bad episodes, they finally hit one out of the park with tonight's. What a gut-punch of an ending. :cry:
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on June 19, 2013, 12:17:14 PM
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It was just a dream.
I thought the joke worked.
As far as this season as a whole has been going, it's been pretty aight. The only episode I really didn't like so far has been the folk singing episode. Everything else has been either decent to good.
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:frown:
Anyway, the final episode ever airs next week. Is anyone tuning in for the big sendoff?
Might as well.
Thoughts on the final episode?
I liked it! Very touching, the infinite loop falling was pretty funny, and I liked the callbacks to the moon episode.
Though that last third did kind of rob the supporting cast of a final send-off, I guess. But whatevs.
Yeah, I was thinking about that. It started become clear that it was going to be all Leela and Fry from there on.
lmao @ bender tap dancing on a little girl's corpse.
i am loving anime futurama.
I've been re-watching this series in bits and pieces. One thing that I noticed was that in the very first episode when Fry falls into the cryogenic chamber, you can actually see Nibbler's shadow next to his chair tipping over. I never noticed that before, but upon some research, it turns out that it was planned that Nibbler was the one to send Fry into the future, years before that plot point was actually revealed on the show. All this time I always thought that it was just a clever retcon, but it was actually planned, which surprised me. Then again, it probably shouldn't have surprised me too much since I do know that Leela's origin story was also planned out ahead of time. In the first episode featuring the crew running into the Sewer Mutants, you can actually see Leela's parents among the crowd (once again, years before this was actually revealed on the show).
The commentary for the episode (which was before the episode in question was made or aired) hinted at it and even told you where to look for a "surprise". Futurama was extremely well planned from conception. Those first four seasons are still pretty top notch.
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 17, 2015, 02:00:07 PM
I've been re-watching this series in bits and pieces. One thing that I noticed was that in the very first episode when Fry falls into the cryogenic chamber, you can actually see Nibbler's shadow next to his chair tipping over. I never noticed that before, but upon some research, it turns out that it was planned that Nibbler was the one to send Fry into the future, years before that plot point was actually revealed on the show. All this time I always thought that it was just a clever retcon, but it was actually planned, which surprised me. Then again, it probably shouldn't have surprised me too much since I do know that Leela's origin story was also planned out ahead of time. In the first episode featuring the crew running into the Sewer Mutants, you can actually see Leela's parents among the crowd (once again, years before this was actually revealed on the show).
:whuh: Is this April Fool's?...except for the last part. Whoa, I had no clue.
Futurama the audio drama is out. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BxF1zjlEU-A)
Syfy has picked up the show. (http://www.thefutoncritic.com/news/2017/10/03/syfy-acquires-iconic-animated-series-futurama-from-twentieth-television-937512/20171003syfy01)
The show has been revived again. (https://deadline.com/2022/02/futurama-revived-new-season-hulu-original-cast-john-dimaggio-not-returning-bender-1234929844) It's getting 20 episodes on Hulu.
John DiMaggio will not be returning, however.
I wouldn't rule him out just yet. There was a big conflict over whether the cast would return before the Comedy Central seasons too. It's not unusual for an absent actor to have his roles played by someone else in a table read either, I wouldn't put too much weight on that. I would be surprised if he doesn't come back in the end, honestly.
As for whether Futurama needs to return...not really? The show miraculously had two great endings in both the FOX and Comedy Central eras, I don't know how they can top "I want to hear how it ends" or "What do you say? Want to go around again?" I don't doubt they could make some funny episodes. I rewatched the entire show last year, and I think people are too harsh on the CC era - there are some bad eps, but most are pretty good and some are among the best in the series like "The Late Phillip J Fry" and "Prisoner of Benda". Yeah, there were some shitty eps like "Neutopia," which may be the worst episode... but the FOX era also had equally awful eps like "Bend Her," which is easily the second-worst tbh. I don't think there needs to be more Futurama, but I don't think it's classic era was so untouchable that I'm aghast at the idea of making more. But with as satisfying an ending as it has - twice - I have mixed feelings with them messing around with a good thing in trying to come up with more stories with these characters or trying to come up with another ending that can somehow top the previous ones.
I wouldn't mind more Futurama as long as the old writers are still around or they're able to successfully foster new talent. Even the worst Futurama episodes at least have a handful of funny jokes. The CC era kinda reminds me of the Scully era of The Simpsons, in that regard.
I think my gripes with the CC era were because it started out in 2010, it lost the Fox era's inherent charm of Fry seeing future versions of things he was familiar with back in 1999. So when it came back on Comedy Central, then it made jokes about iPhones and Obama. Or because of how long it takes to produce an episode, making jokes about subjects that were already passe at the time like the creationism vs evolution argument or Yo Gabba Gabba. And like Simpsons, the show was going through that problem where characters mostly going around in circles because the status quo got in the way, and only D-listers like Calculon or Roberto were able to change throughout the CC seasons.
That, and while it dodged the issue more than most CC cartoons, Futurama still suffered from the same problem every animated series on that channel goes through where it tries to be South Park but doesn't understand how or why South Park works (for a recent example of this phenomenon: look at Fairview). So you've got all these gags that try to be transgressive but ultimately come off as crudely one-note.
Calling it now... Donald Trump's head succeeds Nixon's head to Earth's presidency.
To me, the worst episode was that Christmas one that seemed to be an attempt at a Holiday version of Treehouse of Horror.
I always had an odd feeling Futurama wasn't going to end on Fry and Leela looping through their lives. With everything getting reboots, even 90s Saturday morning cartoons I thought Futurama would probably be brought back. CC is still hurting for non-South Park content. I wonder when the MTV reboots start airing???
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on February 10, 2022, 01:13:11 AM
That, and while it dodged the issue more than most CC cartoons, Futurama still suffered from the same problem every animated series on that channel goes through where it tries to be South Park but doesn't understand how or why South Park works (for a recent example of this phenomenon: look at Fairview). So you've got all these gags that try to be transgressive but ultimately come off as crudely one-note.
Yeah, I recall that being my biggest problem with the Comedy Central episodes, how weirdly political a lot of them were. The original show seldom went in that direction, and the writers never seemed to get the right balance in tone that South Park mostly handles. When it went closer to the OG series, like "The Late Philip J. Fry" or the finale, it was a lot better.
I hope they stay in that direction with the new series.
I still wanna know why they did an Obama birther episode where it turned out the fringe right group was right about the Obama stand-in. I feel like you invalidate whatever point you were trying to make about how dumb those birthers were when you proved them right.
Well, that didn't take long. (https://deadline.com/2022/03/john-dimaggio-return-futurama-revival-hulu-bendergate-1234968435/)
According to Amy Wong's VA, new episodes drop in the Summer. (https://twitter.com/LaurenTom9000/status/1619518651773878274)
Hulu has preview descriptions for the first two episodes.
Spoiler
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At least they remembered.