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Title: Star Trek
Post by: Avaitor on October 16, 2012, 05:54:23 PM
So why is Enterprise coming out on Blu-Ray before DS9?

Also, talk about the franchise here.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Lord Dalek on October 16, 2012, 06:31:47 PM
Because Enterprise was made in HD silly.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Avaitor on October 16, 2012, 06:40:41 PM
Okay, better question- who's actually going to buy Enterprise on Blu-Ray?
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on October 16, 2012, 06:41:21 PM
Honey, I don't even have Firefly on Blu-Ray.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Daikun on February 27, 2015, 06:13:44 PM
Live Long and Prosper, Spock.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Foggle on February 27, 2015, 07:14:18 PM
RIP. :'(
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Lord Il on February 27, 2015, 10:05:34 PM
Hearing of Leonard Nimoy's death this afternoon hit me like a grand piano falling from the sky. But I think what hit me even harder was checking out his Twitter account and seeing his last tweet (I'm sure everyone has probably seen it by now) --
Quote"A life is like a garden. Perfect moments can be had, but not preserved, except in memory. LLAP."

Considering what happened with me recently, that REALLY hit hard. Maaan...

I give him thanks to all the fun, wonder and intrigue he gave me growing up.
R.I.P. Mr. Nimoy.

And I'm not ashamed to admit that the last part of "The Wrath of Khan" movie still makes me tear up to this day.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Foggle on February 27, 2015, 10:33:34 PM
How can anyone not cry during Wrath of Khan?
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 27, 2015, 10:35:32 PM
I'm going to have to re-watch it soon. Especially considering the ending.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 27, 2015, 11:02:20 PM
RIP.

I really should get into classic Star Trek.

It's one of those things that's been on my to-do list forever.

That said, even though I wasn't acquainted with much of his work, which I know extends beyond just Star Trek, it's always sad to see such a legendary figure pass away.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Lord Il on February 27, 2015, 11:47:19 PM
I was fortunate a couple years ago to had gotten the Blu-ray Motion Picture Trilogy collection as a Christmas gift. It has (in my opinion) three of the better of the classic Trek movies - "The Wrath of Khan", "The Search for Spock", and "The Voyage Home". I guess you could say "The Voyage Home" is now a little more noteworthy since Nimoy directed this one.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: gunswordfist on February 28, 2015, 02:26:41 AM
r.i.p. nimoy. i was recently thinking about him and his role in the invasion of the bodysnatchers remake and the monorail simpsons episode. this caught me off guard.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 05, 2015, 04:46:03 PM
The ST films were removed from my Netflix before I got to IV, so I just ordered a copy of the movie trilogy.

I wanted to watch Wrath of Khan again, anyway.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Lord Il on March 08, 2015, 12:37:12 AM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 05, 2015, 04:46:03 PM
The ST films were removed from my Netflix before I got to IV, so I just ordered a copy of the movie trilogy.

I wanted to watch Wrath of Khan again, anyway.
Is it any wonder why people have a love/hate relationship with Netflix.  :imnothappy:

Good decision to get the trilogy set, though. Highly recommended.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 09, 2015, 12:25:10 PM
Thanks!

I've only seen the first three movies before. Absolutely hated I, thought II was amazing, and III wasn't bad. But I've heard good things about IV so I definitely want to give it a shot.

After that I'll probably just get VI and call it a day.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 09, 2015, 07:52:33 PM
Oddly enough, my copy came in today and I watched IV!

Great capper to the trilogy. I certainly enjoyed it more than III (which wasn't bad, just not excellent) even though it wraps everything up from the last two movies. Hard to believe I waited so long to see it, but it sure was a good one.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Avaitor on May 04, 2015, 01:20:27 AM
RIP Yeoman Rand (http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/tv/grace-lee-whitney-yeoman-rand-original-star-trek-dies-n353001), or Grace Lee Whitney.

She did not have an easy life, but at least she'll be in a better place now.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: gunswordfist on May 04, 2015, 12:16:31 PM
R.I.P.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Lord Il on May 04, 2015, 06:01:33 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on May 04, 2015, 01:20:27 AM
RIP Yeoman Rand (http://www.nbcnews.com/pop-culture/tv/grace-lee-whitney-yeoman-rand-original-star-trek-dies-n353001), or Grace Lee Whitney.

She did not have an easy life, but at least she'll be in a better place now.
Yeah, I wasn't aware of her battle with alcoholism at all.

The blond wig that she wore was huge! I remember seeing a blooper clip where it nearly fell off her head.


After Leonard Nimoy passed away, this pic started circulating heavily..
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FiL32Zw2.jpg&hash=ceb0bec75844b7a133b381f92b969003c05eaae1)
Damn if it sure does put things in perspective doesn't it?
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: gunswordfist on May 04, 2015, 07:32:21 PM
I never followed Star Trek but that's pretty sad.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Foggle on May 04, 2015, 07:36:37 PM
Damn, R.I.P. :(

Quote from: Lord Il on May 04, 2015, 06:01:33 PM
Damn if it sure does put things in perspective doesn't it?
:cry:
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Daikun on August 23, 2015, 01:01:26 AM
You guys might want to check this out: Chaos on the Bridge, (https://vimeo.com/ondemand/chaosonthebridge/131812876) an hour-long documentary on the troubled production process behind TNG.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Daikun on November 02, 2015, 03:33:20 PM
A new series is coming in 2017. (http://www.toonzone.net/2015/11/new-star-trek-tv-series-in-development)
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 02, 2015, 03:37:03 PM
Good luck after the last one.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on February 12, 2016, 06:15:34 AM
So old news, but Bryan Fuller's at the helm and he's trying to get Angela Bassett as the Captain. (http://www.vox.com/2016/2/9/10951684/star-trek-bryan-fuller) We're in for a grand new age. Disregard all of that shit. Dark Age of Trek continues.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on November 29, 2016, 05:25:56 AM
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fe6PNpon.png&hash=5a3e4cb060664f8164f403c9ce43ee29193167b0)
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on May 17, 2017, 06:53:12 PM
Well, finally. (https://youtu.be/4dxe_ugmIVM)
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: gunswordfist on June 09, 2017, 07:05:13 PM
Damn, when did network tv CG started to look this good?!
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on September 24, 2017, 10:06:40 PM
I know Star Treks never have good opening episodes, but this didn't need to be so slow.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Lord Dalek on September 25, 2017, 01:41:07 PM
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on September 24, 2017, 10:06:40 PM
I know Star Treks never have good opening episodes, but this didn't need to be so slow.
Its been two hours and they still haven't made it on board the damn ship!
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on September 25, 2017, 03:13:43 PM
I'm not sure if it was a good idea to make everybody's first impression of Michael be that of a trigger-happy officer who attacks her own Captain, attempts a mutiny, and tries to strike a Klingon ship that hadn't actually threatened them by that point. For people who aren't going to use CBS All Access, that's going to be their main idea of who she is.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Foggle on September 25, 2017, 11:37:42 PM
Yeah, for all their talk about returning to the roots of Star Trek's cerebral and optimistic nature, having the first episode be about the protagonist finding an alien race unseen by humans for a century and then immediately attempting a mutiny so she can kill them certainly didn't inspire confidence. Also, I haven't seen the second episode yet, but the premiere did a piss-poor job of establishing the characters. We don't know anything about any of them except that Michael is half-Vulcan and the Klingons probably(?) killed her parents. No one has an actual personality to speak of, except for that alien whose name I've forgotten, and even then his defining trait/motivation is little more than "cowardly."
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on September 25, 2017, 11:54:16 PM
Michael's not half-Vulcan. She's a human who got adopted by Sarek. Speaking of, I'm confused as to why he treats Michael better than he did his actual children. It's weird to see him acting supportive and mentoring to her compared to the way he treats Spock. "Spock's never-before-seen stepsister who plays a big role in a Klingon war" already sounds like fanfiction, so moments like that aren't helping.

As for the rest of the cast, I couldn't get a read on Michelle Yeoh's character beyond "generic Starfleet captain". I guess Paramount wanted to trick us into thinking she would be a main character so her death would be shocking, but even without all the announcements half a year ago spoiling who the actual captain was, it was hard to care about her. Only other crewmembers I can remember are the Doug Jones character, the Daft Punk one, and that guy who played the Blue Ranger in Power Rangers SPD.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Foggle on September 26, 2017, 12:02:41 AM
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on September 25, 2017, 11:54:16 PM
Michael's not half-Vulcan. She's a human who got adopted by Sarek.
Oh. My dad and I assumed she was. Huh.

QuoteAs for the rest of the cast, I couldn't get a read on Michelle Yeoh's character beyond "generic Starfleet captain". I guess Paramount wanted to trick us into thinking she would be a main character so her death would be shocking, but even without all the announcements half a year ago spoiling who the actual captain was, it was hard to care about her.
As soon as I saw "Special Guest Star" in the opening credits I knew she wouldn't last long!
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on September 26, 2017, 12:55:04 AM
I'm not sure what's with Star Trek and not having great or even good series premieres. Other spaceship shows like The Expanse, BSG, and Firefly hit it out of the park by episode one. I hope Discovery doesn't go the same path as other Star Trek series where there's a couple lukewarm or shitty seasons before it actually becomes a good show. That's what fucked over Enterprise. They thought they could have a slow burn show and eventually grow their beard just like TNG did, only to screw up so hard that by the time they actually made watchable and even good episodes, nobody was tuning in.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Lord Dalek on September 26, 2017, 01:00:05 PM
Apparently Season 2 might not drop until 2019. (http://nerdist.com/star-trek-discovery-season-2-2019-cbs-all-access/) Now admittedly that would give Kurtzman some time to actually...you know...figure what the fuck this show is supposed to be about again. Because interstellar mindmelds ain't gonna do it.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on September 29, 2017, 03:44:49 AM
RedLetterMedia reviewed the first two episodes of Discovery, (https://youtu.be/2RVf01en-YA) and one thing that got my attention was Mike talking about how you couldn't make shows like TNG or VOY these days because of television changing, while Rich argued that stuff like Orville proved there were still people who wanted a TNG-style Trek.

For what it's worth, Mike really liked STD while Rich hated it.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on February 14, 2018, 06:17:04 PM
So based on the season finale's cliffhanger, we're either getting Zachary Quinto or a CGI Leonard Nimoy.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Daikun on February 14, 2019, 03:55:53 AM
It's coming to Nickelodeon. (https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/star-trek-animated-show-nickelodeon-1203138869)
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on April 14, 2020, 08:34:53 AM
Saw some of Picard, and while it's an improvement on Discovery, the whole show's a mixed bag. It's definitely not Picard's worst outing, anyone who thinks this is worse than Nemesis or Generations is out of their mind, but the entire season's so uneven for what seems to be Star Trek's attempt to follow the Expanse. A little bit like when Enterprise saw what 24 was doing and said "Let's do that!" to mixed results.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Avaitor on May 11, 2020, 03:47:19 PM
Yeah, when I first started Picard, I was warmer towards it, but the show did lose me after a bit. One of its big problems is that it never seems to figure out if it wants to be serialized like a lot of current TV, episodic like most Star Trek series, or the happy medium that Buffy and The Mandalorian hit. The last is the best way to go imo, but it skirts all over the place and never finds the right tone.

I also only like, don't love, the majority of the cast. It's not surprising that the best moments tend to let Patrick Stewart outclass everyone, or the little moments we get when we see Riker and Troi again, but while the new characters each have their moments, no one really stands out or has their own consistent personalities. Seven of Nine was also a mess, but there was nothing consistent about Voyager to begin with.

I'll probably give the next season a shot, but I hope they figure their shit out when it hits.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on May 11, 2020, 09:56:55 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on May 11, 2020, 03:47:19 PMSeven of Nine was also a mess, but there was nothing consistent about Voyager to begin with.
Speaking of Voyager, it's a little crazy Trekkies are retroactively treating Voyager and Enterprise like good shows just because Discovery and Picard have issues. Nostalgia bias is always a bitch, but just because Discovery's second season was stupid doesn't suddenly improve all the stupid Janeway and Archer bits.

QuoteI'll probably give the next season a shot, but I hope they figure their shit out when it hits.
Why's it so hard for a Star Trek to start out with a strong first season? TOS is the only one where the first season's good TV in its own right.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Avaitor on May 12, 2020, 12:32:59 PM
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on May 11, 2020, 09:56:55 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on May 11, 2020, 03:47:19 PMSeven of Nine was also a mess, but there was nothing consistent about Voyager to begin with.
Speaking of Voyager, it's a little crazy Trekkies are retroactively treating Voyager and Enterprise like good shows just because Discovery and Picard have issues. Nostalgia bias is always a bitch, but just because Discovery's second season was stupid doesn't suddenly improve all the stupid Janeway and Archer bits.
Yeah, no. Voyager had some good episodes, but it had no real structure to speak of. Kate Mulgrew has even commented that Janeway's character would change from episode to episode and had almost no basis.

Quote
QuoteI'll probably give the next season a shot, but I hope they figure their shit out when it hits.
Why's it so hard for a Star Trek to start out with a strong first season? TOS is the only one where the first season's good TV in its own right.
TOS had the benefit of a clear vision of what it wanted to do and a dedicate showrunner who made it happen. I don't think that's been true of any Star Trek series from the get-go. It is funny that TNG became better the further removed Roddenberry was, but he also disliked Wrath of Khan, so he probably lost the plot somewhere between TOS' cancellation and the movies.

Part of the problem is that it's not the 90's anymore. Star Trek isn't as hot of a commodity as it used to be, and there is far more genre television to watch instead than ever before. These shows can't afford to be so weak so early on. Discovery could get a pass because the interest in a new ST series was strong enough, and Picard similarly can due to its TNG connections, but if they don't get better, they're going to go the way of Enterprise.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on May 12, 2020, 07:45:33 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on May 12, 2020, 12:32:59 PM
Discovery could get a pass because the interest in a new ST series was strong enough,
And not just that, but it was going to be a Bryan Fuller project too. But then he left, yet the Discovery crew were stuck with his self-imposed challenge of making a prequel series featuring Spock's unmentioned until now stepsister. As American Gods and Heroes can attest, replacing Bryan Fuller is a task doomed to fail.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Avaitor on May 12, 2020, 10:51:33 PM
Oh yeah, I forgot about that. While I do like Fuller, I'm surprised that he hasn't been blackballed from the industry yet. His budget requests seem pretty out there from what I gather.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on May 18, 2020, 02:23:15 PM
This is going to sound puritan, but out of all the new and upcoming Star Trek shows, where's the one for families? Even DS9 was something a parent could watch with their children, while Discovery and Picard try a little too hard to attain that TV-MA rating. I know Nickelodeon's making a Star Trek, but that's not gonna be all-ages. That's going to be aimed squarely at kids, and any parent who's not already a Trekkie will probably feel as awkward watching it as they do most other Nick shows. Sounds narrow to make Star Treks for specific demographics (a Trek for kids, a Trek for adults, a Trek for Rick and Morty fans) instead of one with a wider reach.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Daikun on July 12, 2020, 01:56:39 PM
The trailer is out for the new animated CBS All Access series, Lower Decks. (This is separate from the series that's being made for Nickelodeon.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3RkBKedKWw
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Daikun on July 23, 2020, 07:31:55 PM
The Nickelodeon series has a title.

(https://www.escapistmagazine.com/v2/wp-content/uploads/2020/07/star-trek-prodigy-logo.jpg)
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Daikun on February 19, 2021, 03:35:18 PM
https://twitter.com/MisterABK/status/1362711400041353219
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on April 20, 2023, 04:51:24 PM
Spoiler
(https://preview.redd.it/wevlkagvl1va1.png?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&v=enabled&s=8dfaa529c54bba43cefbb7d2be8d177e6af98573)
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It's like poetry. It rhymes.
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Daikun on May 04, 2023, 07:10:13 PM
Title: Re: Star Trek
Post by: Daikun on September 18, 2023, 02:10:09 AM