We might as well use a thread like this in the regular animation board, as well as the anime board.
Anyway, Jerry Beck's co-hosting of TCM with Robert Osborne is tonight. Is anyone going to try to catch this as well?
I don't have TCM.
Oh wow, this one short involves a man just making drawings and animating them later on. It starts off with him writing the words coon and cyke, and turning them into drawings of black and Jewish stereotypes.
No joke, just right off the bat. Wow.
Oh, casual racism. :lol:
Fat Albert must be the perfect show to watch high.
Or make a drinking game out of.
Oh wow, this is finally happening. (http://tvshowsondvd.com/news/Charlie-Brown-Snoopy-The-Complete-Series/17737#ixzz2CGL1Tlib) Sweet.
I really wish they'd re-release the movies. Those re pretty great, and contain most of my favorite Peanuts material.
Still, great news!
Baby steps, but those seem likely in the near future.
My major qualm is that this is a DVD-R release, but hey, the show hasn't been available in full in years, so I'll take what I can get. It also seems like Warner is doing better with the Peanuts franchise than Paramount ever did.
Yesterday on CBS I watched "Frosty the Snowman" and the SpongeBob stop-motion Christmas.
"Frosty" is a pretty good lookin' special from Rankin/Bass, and I think the animation (done in Japan at Mushi Production) is pretty good. Jimmy Durante as a narrator was a nice touch. Also the villain, Professor Hinkle, is a dick.
The SpongeBob Christmas special was pretty good. A throwback to the Rankin/Bass stop-motion specials. I love how everybody gained five-o'clock shadows when they became jerks.
Sandy: You gave everyone fruitcake made by Plankton?
SpongeBob (smiling): Uh huh.
Sandy: You're an idiot.
SpongeBob (smiling): Uh huh.
Right now, I'm waiting for the new "Pony" episode.
I've recently taken it upon myself to watch some of The Weekenders again. It still holds up, and I still say that it's better than Recess.
I dunno, I always like the Weekenders but I always found myself engaged more with Recess.
Recess is funny too, but I think I saw every episode like 20 times, because it all feels so clockwork to me now.
I haven't watched either show in ages, but I remember viewing both regularly as a kid, and really enjoying both. That said, for whatever reason I seem to have more fond memories of Recess than I have with The Weekenders. Like I said, though, this is only remembering both shows through pure nostalgia and nothing else to go on. I'll have to try re-watching select bits from each show to see how well they still hold up (or don't) to me, now.
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Yeah, this show holds up.
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Yeah, this show holds up.
Watched some episodes of this again just recently, yeah it really does. Heck, I dare say it holds up better considering I didn't pay full attention to it back when it first came on.
The Weekenders was never a favorite of mine, but it was OK for what it was. It was really like an animated Seinfeld (I know several shows make that claim, but Weekenders genuinely came off like a cartoon Seinfeld for tweens to me). I remember getting kind of bored with it after the first few episodes (as I'm generally not into typical tweencom plots), but I haven't seen the show in a while, so I don't know how I'd take to it now.
Recess just burned itself out early. The Hogan's Heroes with kids shtick became stale in short order, and by season 4 it degenerated into a "moral of the week" kind of thing, as I recall.
Honestly, the main 1 Saturday Morning show I have the fondest memories of was Pepper Ann; probably my favorite Disney cartoon outside of some of the Disney Afternoon shows, but again, I haven't seen PA in a while; I'm not sure how it would hold if I saw it again today.
Recess and Pepper Ann are among my to-rediscover list, along with maybe Fillmore! too. I might do Recess next.
I still think Recess is a great show. I also enjoy that the movie and specials felt like proper closure to the whole show. Few Disney shows seem to get that, but Recess actually did.
I saw an episode of Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes and about 3-4 episodes of Young Justice today. Avengers will take some time to get used to. I'm not that fond of the artwork. I don't know what it is with Marvel animation, but for some reason it's like they can't do a series with great animation and great artwork at the same time. Take Spectacular Spider-Man. I hated the artwork in that (quirky stuff) but the animation and fights clearly made up for it. I like the artwork in both X:TAS and X:EVO, but the animation in both left something to be desired.
As far as Young Justice goes, I instantly fell in love with it. From artwork and animation, along with the fights. Not to mention it's serious, but not, too serious. I think this series was made specifically for me.
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I saw an episode of Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes and about 3-4 episodes of Young Justice today. Avengers will take some time to get used to. I'm not that fond of the artwork. I don't know what it is with Marvel animation, but for some reason it's like they can't do a series with great animation and great artwork at the same time. Take Spectacular Spider-Man. I hated the artwork in that (quirky stuff) but the animation and fights clearly made up for it. I like the artwork in both X:TAS and X:EVO, but the animation in both left something to be desired.
I'll admit that I'm not a fan of the art-style of AEMH as well, and I also didn't like the show with the first few episodes (including the micro-episodes). That said, it takes a huge jump in quality by about episode 8 or 9, and pretty much holds that level of quality for the rest of the season and "most" of season 2 (IMO). I'd say its worth sticking with because it gets really good later on down the line. Personally I ended up liking it more than Justice League/Unlimited in the end, and I really did enjoy JLU a lot.
QuoteAs far as Young Justice goes, I instantly fell in love with it. From artwork and animation, along with the fights. Not to mention it's serious, but not, too serious. I think this series was made specifically for me.
As far as season 1 goes, then yes. Just don't keep your hopes up too high for the 2nd season. I've personally found it to be pretty disappointing, so far, but maybe I'm in the minority on that.
Quote from: Ensatsu-KenAs far as season 1 goes, then yes. Just don't keep your hopes up too high for the 2nd season. I've personally found it to be pretty disappointing, so far, but maybe I'm in the minority on that.
I don't know how many seasons there are, but I just started at episode 36, at least that's what's on demand for me.
Well, the show is currently in its 2nd season.
Being that I watched starting from season 1, I generally don't like how season 2 moved most of the characters that I came to actually care about to the side (at least until recently), and replaced them with new characters that I didn't know without really giving me much of a reason to give a shit about said new characters. That, and I'm just not a fan of how this season has the show tackling multiple plot-lines at once. The 1st season technically did that as well, but it did a good job of focusing on the main plot at hand and it was paced well enough so that you never felt like there were 3 or 4 separate stories that you had to be aware of in order to just follow a single episode. With season 2, I feel like the show has been trying to do too much at once and thus it kind of feels like a mess to me, personally.
Ah, yes, plot. One thing you'll learn about me is that I don't watch these shows for plot. I'm more fickle than that, however, if a series has great animation, artwork, and fights I'm pretty easy to satisfy, which is odd considering that I'm not much of a fan of Avatar: The Last Airbender because of the characters (But I enjoyed Korra). I guess it depends on the show. DC and Marvel, it's kinda hard to not please me with the characters unless they deliberately make an obnoxious main character with a bratty attitude.
Watched Chico & Rita and Kirikou & The Sorceress. Gorgeous films with an exotic, yet familiar taste.
Quote from: Grave on January 20, 2013, 07:46:53 PM
Ah, yes, plot. One thing you'll learn about me is that I don't watch these shows for plot. I'm more fickle than that, however, if a series has great animation, artwork, and fights I'm pretty easy to satisfy, which is odd considering that I'm not much of a fan of Avatar: The Last Airbender because of the characters (But I enjoyed Korra). I guess it depends on the show. DC and Marvel, it's kinda hard to not please me with the characters unless they deliberately make an obnoxious main character with a bratty attitude.
I guess I'm kind of the opposite. The plot is the most important part of any given work for me. Which explains why I stopped caring about YJ a while ago. And why I have a hard time enjoying Korra.
As I talked about the Best Picture winners in another thread, which film do you think will Best Animated Picture? To me, it seems like between the five, there are five different options to go with:
The popular choice- Wreck-It Ralph
WIR wasn't even the highest-grossing animated film of the year, but it seems to be the most beloved of all the choices, and probably the most fun. Awards and critic alike have been kind, so it may very well take home the gold.
The safe choice- Brave
It's safe to say that Brave is no one's favorite Pixar movie. Not to say that the film doesn't have its fans, but the movie just didn't didn't take the world over like the Toy Storys, Finding Nemo, Up, etc did, and there's a good reason for that- Brave just isn't that good of a movie, Pixar or not. The few awards it has won so far have come from voting committees whose countries STILL haven't obtained Wreck-It Ralph, since Disney's STILL way behind with their release schedules for their own animated films. That, or the Golden Globes just didn't care enough about the nominees and went with Brave because it's Pixar. It's possible that the Academy could do the same thing.
But hey, it's not like EVERY Pixar film won. The Cars films are even weaker, and they didn't. Neither did Monsters, Inc, so who knows?
The critics choice- Frankenweenie
It's won more awards than any of the other nominees, and the film sure seems to resonate for whatever reason. It's possible that the Academy awards the film to "prove" that they don't have a bias against Tim Burton and give him this one award. Or maybe they just really hate the guy and he won't win here either.
The underdog choice- ParaNorman
The film has won a couple of awards itself, and its anti-bullying message could certainly appeal to voters. Usually the most popular films win, but this could be a surprise upset.
The no way in hell choice- The Pirates
It was either this or Rise of the Guardians, and since Katzenberg won his one Oscar this year, I guess they went with this instead. I'm sure it's a fine movie, maybe even a good one. But being nominated is good enough.
Well, they went with the safe choice.
At least Paperman won for Best Animated Short.
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Well, they went with the safe choice.
At least Paperman won for Best Animated Short.
Indeed. To think I was actually expecting Paranorman over the rest, and I still need to get around to that.
Paperman was well deserved. Glad to hear that it won.
My baby brother and me watched the first 6 episodes of Korra, and two episodes on each of the following days. We'll probably finish the series today. He likes it and I like finally rewatching the show. He loves the Yukon flashback as much as I do.
I just started watching Batman: The Brave and the Bold, and I plan to watch through the whole series this time. Up until now, I only ever caught a few random episodes of this series on TV, but I wanted to finally get into it and give it a proper viewing. After re-watching the first episode, I have to say that I really do admire this show's sense of humor. It pulls off the whole campy, tongue-in-cheek vibe without ever coming off like its trying to hard to fit into that style. All of the jokes just flow through so naturally, and that's thanks to great writing, great dialogue, and generally great characters. Of course, this is just based on the limited amount of what I've seen of the show, but hopefully the rest of it holds up to those standards as well.
I think what helps is that they play it straight and that the camp is really well written without seeming out of place or shoehorned in.
Also it helps that the action is just as good as the comedy.
Batman is just the perfect straight man.
So apparently Sony was going to release a season 2 set of SSM last year, but dropped it without any word one way or the other towards it.
This saddens me greatly.
Who here has watched the old Fliesher Popeye cartoons recently?
Have you guys been checking out Mr. Big's Cartoon Research articles? (http://cartoonresearch.com/index.php/the-last-black-white-anime/)
Can't wait to read more!
I tried to watching the first episode of Hunter x Hunter remake on my brother's PS3 and only got a minute into it due to slow internet connection. Anyway, I'll give the Crunchyroll app another try tomorrow and watch it then
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I tried to watching the first episode of Hunter x Hunter remake on my brother's PS3 and only got a minute into it due to slow internet connection. Anyway, I'll give the Crunchyroll app another try tomorrow and watch it then
I still prefer the 1999 version, myself, but the remake is still great when it adapts the best parts of the manga (though the 1999 version downright improved upon the manga, IMO). That said, I don't know if the first few arcs of this series would be that much up your alley. Its worth a look, but keep in mind that the first 30 or so episodes of the series are mostly standard shonen stuff, except done much better than most other standard shonen. The York Shin City arc is where the series gets downright great, IMO, as it shows Togashi's expert writing for darker-themed plots (much like the Chapter Black arc in YYH), and then the series drops off in quality again with the Greed Island arc, but then gets awesome again with the Chimera Ant arc....which still has a shit-ton of flaws, but I'd still call it great, though.
The YouTube uploader only put the first 20 or so episodes up. I wanted to find the rest elsewhere, but I keep on delaying that for other things.
First M*A*S*H, now Game of Thrones.
Ugh, looks like I'll need somewhere else to start the series now.
Are you just trying to use the Crunchyroll app, or did you try just streaming videos from that site on regular computer?
At any rate, CR has given me some problems with streaming as well, so your issues with its "services" don't surprise me.
They aren't letting watch videos anymore. Apparently now I have to sign up after just the second time I used the app.
Justice League
I bought the entire series recently. Glad I did because I like watching the special features on some of the disc as well. Then there are some episodes that I just never knew about (I think they were called the Justice Force or something, and then the 3-part episode dealing with a war. Some good stuff.
"Legends" and "The Savage Time" are probably my favorite season 1 episodes.
Hard to say what my favorites are at the moment, but Savage Time is definitely one of them. I also liked the episode where Superman was fighting on another planet against Mongul (I think that's his name). But then again, I'm beginning to really like Superman over everyone else at the moment. I like Batman and all, but sometimes he can really get on my nerves.
I hated "War World," personally. Season 1 was pretty lop-side in quality on the whole, and that episode was on the lower end of the spectrum, for me. That said, "The Savage Time" was easily the best part of season 1, IMO, and a sign of good things to come from the series. Season 2 is where the show truly picked up in quality, and it has a number of my favorite episodes, including "Hereafter," "A Better World," "Wild Cards," and "Starcrossed."
Yeah, season 1 was decent with a few highlights but season 2 was awesome. Actually, season 2 might be the single best season of the DCAU as a whole.
Yeah, I can certainly agree with that sentiment. It perfected the formula for the series before everything was reset with JLU and we had a bunch of more obscure heroes crammed into the mix. To be fair, though, I think that they couldn't have really managed to top season 2 if they had kept going with the same formula as they were, so I can respect the team behind the DCAU for trying something new, and to its credit seasons 3 and 4 had some good stories going for them.
I need to watch some Barbie. (http://imjackharkness.tumblr.com/post/49426002815/aw-shit-get-it-barbie)
Do you guys remember back on the old board when I did those long-ass posts describing and detailing various episodes of cartoons?
Yeah, I remember those. Are you planning to do more? Those were some really good reads.
Nope. Just reminding you all that I used to do them.
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Some time after midnight, I saw the Samurai Jack episode where Aku challenges him to unarmed combat for the 2nd time. I love the awkwardness of their long conversations (they usually try to kill each other within 2 seconds of seeing each other) The fight showed how much more skilled Jack is than Aku. Jack made him look stupid. Definitely one of the best episodes I missed.
Been re-watching Gargoyles, and just finished "City of Stone" and "High Noon." Goddamn was this a great series. If nothing else, "Awakening" and "City of Stone" are fantastic, almost cinematic stories in their own right and I dare say better or at least rivaling the finest of material from any of the DCAU series. Of course, I want to finish this re-watch quickly since I've got lots of shows yet to watch and re-watch, but it's definitely been worth re-visiting this series again after quite a while.
OK, I've kind of been inspired by Doug's Avatar V-logs to try and watch a show that I am completely clueless about and rather than do V-logs for it, I would like to write fairly short and manageable entries about my brief thoughts on each episode. The only thing is that I think it'd be more interesting if its something that somebody recommends to me, just so long as it isn't a super-long show with a huge commitment attached to it. I'll try and get out one entry a night so that you can all bitch and moan about how wrong I am about the show and how shitty I am at analyzing its themes properly, sort of like how Doug does. For me the show can be anime or western or really anything that's animated and has multiple episodes (preferably something good, but I don't want to be too picky). It also has to be something easily accessible, like streaming on Netflix, Hulu, Crunchyroll, etc., because if its something that I'd absolutely have to buy on DVD to watch, then it'd take me a long while to even get around to it. At any rate, I'm just throwing that out there. If anyone has any interesting suggestions, I'm all ears, of course.
I would say King Of The Hill, but that requires a pretty big commitment. :sweat:
Also, I'm not quite sure what you guys have on Hulu and Netflix because it's totally different here.
Yeah, I really need to get around to KOTH some time, but for the sake of doing nightly entries, it'd be a bit too big for my plate. ;)
So, even though it was in a PM, Tron: Uprising is the only recommendation that I've gotten so far. Anyone else care to offer up any other suggestions? If not, then I'll probably start with TU by next week.
I did in another PM, but I'm not sure if it's up your alley. :sweat:
Hard to say. TU would be interesting, considering the talent and money behind it., and I do think it's underrated. I can't really think of anything off the top of my head, though. At least something I'm pretty sure you've already seen.
Is there anything you've been procrastinating about watching?
Well, I'm assuming you want something relatively short to watch. Personally I think episodic reviews of shows are also more interesting when the subject is an action/drama series, so I'm reluctant to recommend you any comedies (I will though, and if you really haven't watched King of the Hill yet get on that STAT ;)).
Assuming you haven't already watched these shows, I'd suggest:
Gun X Sword - A personal favorite of mine. Think Trigun + Giant Robots to start with, although Van is a very different character than Vash. I consider it the "fourth" space western, even though it was made in the early 2000's, because it's got the same kinda feel they have plus it's just a solid, high-quality senin series. People have complained that the plot and basic story have been done before, and I'd say in some respects that's true, but overall the execution manages to overshadow most of the familiar elements of the series, and I'd definitely say it's worth anyone's time at least for one run.
The Slayers - Both a nostalgic and top favorite for me personally, and in fact one of the first shows to introduce me to anime series outside that which aired on Toonami back in the day. Now, this is a long franchise. Not as long as most long running shonen series or anything (I'm also not sure whether Slayers is shonen or senin either, but a good show is a good show so who cares), but overall counting all 5 series it's length is 104 episodes. You could easily just watch the first series to start with though, which is only 26 episodes. Anyway, Slayers is fun at it's purest form. You aren't going to get a deep plot or a buttload of drama or anything like that. Slayers likes to be silly and have fun. Yes, it gets serious, there are moments that are supposed to and should be taken seriously, but at the end of the day the whole point of the show is to have a good time and enjoy the ride, not the destination. And it keeps being fun, and enjoyable, and downright hilarious even, while still managing to have engaging and somewhat serious storylines, in each series. If you haven't checked it out, I think you'd enjoy it. It deserves it's cult status in my book.
Transformers Prime - I only watch it irregularly, but it's a pretty good action show and installment in the franchise. Even though I personally never had much of any interest in the franchise before, this series still managed to interest me and get me to watch it from time to time on the Hub. I think it'd be a show worth reviewing.
Durarara! - Yeah, I know you didn't care for Baccano!, and this is a weaker series than that in a few respects in my personal opinion, but it's also quite different from Baccano!, in the sense that aside from a few stylistic elements, the two shows really have nothing in common. In any case, it's an interesting series start to finish. While the main plot never truly got resolved, the series still produced memorable characters and moments, and had a more thoughtful plotline than I was expecting. It's certainly very slow which might turn you off from it in some ways, but I'd say it's also a very good show and worth at least one watch.
Azumanga Daioh - A slice of life comedy, but easily the best slice of life comedy anime I've ever seen. Just watch it.
Ugly Americans - A funny show, really, and a worthy companion to South Park while it lasted.
Fate/Zero - I haven't watched much of it, but it's very, very good.
Scooby Doo! Mystery Incorporated - The best Scooby series ever made. Yeah it had that annoying love triangle in the first half of the first season, but that goes away, and the second half of the first season and the second season were honestly quite intense, and the mysteries were actually more interesting than what you'd expect from the previous installments of the franchise. Really just a great show overall.
Duck Dodgers - The best Looney Tunes television show ever made period. Succeeded at preserving the spirit of the characters, and the fun of the franchise, while still being it's own thing. A blast beginning to end.
A Gundam series? - I'm not very experienced with the franchise, but it seems you haven't seen at least some of them either. I'd personally recommend Gundam 00 since I've actually watched that one and it's also very entertaining, but I'm just throwing out the franchise in general out there as a suggestion for you. :sweat:
Well...that's all I can think of that you've probably haven't already watched that isn't also super long and probably like. Now, if we're talking about as series that I'm not sure whether you'd like it or not, there's always my favorite show in the universe Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo, which is very much a love it or hate it series from my experience (and also has elements to it that don't sit well with some people). If you want to watch it, go for it. I love it and will always love it, and I'm aware of it's strengths and flaws very thoroughly. Which is why I know that there is no way to predict whether someone ends up enjoying it or not. If you want to check it out, be wary and warned. It's a comedy anime that pulls no punches. It pulls nosehairs. ;)
EDIT: Oh, I second (third?) that you watch Tron: Uprising. It's quite great.
Quote from: Cartoon X on June 27, 2013, 11:04:07 PM
Durarara!
Ugly Americans
Fate/Zero
Scooby Doo! Mystery Incorporated
Duck Dodgers
Oh, I second (third?) that you watch Tron: Uprising. It's quite great.
I second all of these.
ARCHER.
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While I definitely should watch Archer, I don't think I'd do a very good job of writing entries about comedy. I just suck at it, to be blunt. I mean I'd literally have nothing to say other than trying to explain why every episode is funny in trying to analyze it....which isn't funny, or entertaining. So in terms of my writing ability, I'd probably do best with an action show with elements of drama to it. On that note, I'm leaning mostly towards Tron: Uprising, so far, but I'll still listen to any other suggestions until the end of the weekend, and then hopefully I can start these entries by next Monday.
Yeah, I should probably get around to Tron: Uprising myself, but lately I haven't been watching that many cartoons.
Oh, The Secret Saturdays is another one I'd consider. That's something I've been wanting to watch in full myself.
What's the general consensus on Secret Saturdays overall as a show, based on what you've heard?
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on June 27, 2013, 11:28:21 PM
What's the general consensus on Secret Saturdays overall as a show, based on what you've heard?
Decent, better than a lot of the action shows CN has aired in the past few years which aren't related to DC, but still not necessarily a Gargoyles or Avatar: TLA. But it's not like it needs to be, right?
A rewatch of Young Justice to see what worked and what didn't.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on June 27, 2013, 11:32:14 PM
A rewatch of Young Justice to see what worked and what didn't.
A little recent, but not a bad idea.
Oh, shoot. Totally forgot about recommending The Secret Saturdays. Yeah, that show is awesome. Unfortunately, the only way you'd be able to watch it legally is through Boomerang, since the DVD's only went up to the middle of the first season. Still, it's a show I'd recommend to anyone wanting a good action cartoon, and unlike most short lived action cartoons these days, The Secret Saturdays is well-paced, and has a very satisfying ending. I'm honestly very sad at how underrated it is, because it really was a really well done series and should've lasted longer than it did.
Personally, I like it more than Avatar honestly. But it certainty isn't a Gargoyles, but c'mon. That's a level of excellence not many shows have been able to reach.
I'd put TSS up there with American Dragon, myself. Strong characters, solid ideas, but never truly got to to live up to their potential.
This might be a terrible suggestion because I've never seen it, but what about Road Rovers? I always hear a lot about it and it's incredibly short.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on June 27, 2013, 11:32:14 PM
A rewatch of Young Justice to see what worked and what didn't.
That's actually a really good idea, even though it is something that I watched before. That said, I'd no doubt get tons of fans up my ass telling me how wrong I am for not noticing the most minute little details, but that pretty much comes with the gig.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 27, 2013, 11:41:48 PM
This might be a terrible suggestion because I've never seen it, but what about Road Rovers? I always hear a lot about it and it's incredibly short.
That's one I loved as a kid, since it was in the vein of Warner's comedy shows around that time, but I don't think that it had a lot of the same staff, so I'm a little afraid to see how it holds. Because really, I'm thinking back, and it doesn't seem as clever as Freakazoid!
Quote from: Avaitor on June 27, 2013, 11:53:41 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 27, 2013, 11:41:48 PM
This might be a terrible suggestion because I've never seen it, but what about Road Rovers? I always hear a lot about it and it's incredibly short.
That's one I loved as a kid, since it was in the vein of Warner's comedy shows around that time, but I don't think that it had a lot of the same staff, so I'm a little afraid to see how it holds. Because really, I'm thinking back, and it doesn't seem as clever as Freakazoid!
Yeah, that's why I think it might be an interesting show to read about, because you barely see anything about it online.
Sort of like Exosquad, I guess.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on June 27, 2013, 11:45:58 PM
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on June 27, 2013, 11:32:14 PM
A rewatch of Young Justice to see what worked and what didn't.
That's actually a really good idea, even though it is something that I watched before. That said, I'd no doubt get tons of fans up my ass telling me how wrong I am for not noticing the most minute little details, but that pretty much comes with the gig.
I'm pretty sure GregX is not "tons of fans" but just a fan. ;)
And no criticism goes without counterpoints. If an analysis doesn't go without at least one cry to the contrary, then it's not an analysis but just a circlejerk.
Fair enough. I think I'll do Tron: Uprising since its something new that I haven't seen before, but maybe I can do Young Justice every other night, or just wait until I finish TU to give it a re-watch and reanalysis.
And yeah, I fully expect counterpoints and even welcome them, just so long as none of them question my opinion on the show just because I don't read any DC comic books. The show is clearly meant to stand on its own, so I'll be judging it as such.
Quote from: ShadowGentleman on June 27, 2013, 11:10:23 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on June 27, 2013, 11:04:07 PM
Durarara!
Ugly Americans
Fate/Zero
Scooby Doo! Mystery Incorporated
Duck Dodgers
Oh, I second (third?) that you watch Tron: Uprising. It's quite great.
I second all of these.
I third Duck Dodgers!
Do the new Lupin The Third show, The Woman Called Fujiko Mine.
Quote from: Cartoon X on June 27, 2013, 11:34:35 PM
Oh, shoot. Totally forgot about recommending The Secret Saturdays. Yeah, that show is awesome. Unfortunately, the only way you'd be able to watch it legally is through Boomerang, since the DVD's only went up to the middle of the first season. Still, it's a show I'd recommend to anyone wanting a good action cartoon, and unlike most short lived action cartoons these days, The Secret Saturdays is well-paced, and has a very satisfying ending. I'm honestly very sad at how underrated it is, because it really was a really well done series and should've lasted longer than it did.
Personally, I like it more than Avatar honestly. But it certainty isn't a Gargoyles, but c'mon. That's a level of excellence not many shows have been able to reach.
Hmm, Secret Saturdays had an actual ending? I assumed it just abruptly ended. I need to watch all of that show. I actually ignored it before I saw some episodes on Boomerang just because I thought the show's name was so bad :D
Quote from: Cartoon X on June 27, 2013, 11:34:35 PM
Oh, shoot. Totally forgot about recommending The Secret Saturdays. Yeah, that show is awesome. Unfortunately, the only way you'd be able to watch it legally is through Boomerang, since the DVD's only went up to the middle of the first season.
Actually, all three seasons of The Secret Saturdays are on iTunes so Boomerang isn't the only legal way to watch the whole series.
So, I decided I'll have Tron: Uprising be the first show that I do, since its short and probably won't be too complex to analyze. That said, I should make it clear that as far as films go, I have only ever seen the original Tron, and have yet to see Legacy, so I'm just hoping that its not one of those shows that expects you to be very familiar with the films and can just stand as a good story on its own.
I'll try my best to get one short entry done per episode each night, and I aim to try and start tonight.
Having only seen the first film as well, I can say that you don't really need to know much more then the basic premise to understand Uprising, and they fill you in at the start.
Anyway, looking forward to your thoughts.
I watched the first episode a little earlier today, and I'll post my thoughts on it later tonight. I may need to re-watch bits of it to make sure that I get names and events right, which is why I'm not writing the entry right away after seeing it, because I'd like to avoid sounding ignorant as much as possible.
I'm purposely going to refrain from saying how I felt about the episode until I post that entry, just to generate maybe a little intrigue in my opinion on it. I will say that I am NOT a critic, though, so don't expect a thorough analysis of any flaws that I find.
I finished the rough draft of my first entry. I just need to edit it before posting it up.
OK, So I just realized that I have absolutely no idea how to use Word Press, so this entry may take me a little while to post up.
So, here's (http://ensatsuken.blogspot.com/) my first look at your favorite show, ShadlowGentleman.
:happytime:
Fun Fact: The first episode was originally produced as a 10 segment miniseries. For what ever reason they decided to just put them together into a single episode.
And don't worry, you'll find out more about some of the supporting characters as time goes on.
I might just do The Renegade as one entry since its a 2-parter, but in that case it may take me until tomorrow night to get my entry done for it.
After THREE fucking years of me putting it off, I FINALLY sat down and watched the Totally Spies! movie, literally the oldest recording I still have in my DVR. And you know what, it was pretty fun, and really funny at times, genuinely.
Like, the concept and plot made no real damn sense and the voice acting was a little annoying here and there, but the animation and pacing was pretty fast-paced and energetic and, really, the movie ended up so purely fun for me that the stupid moments added to the charm rather than hindered it. Made me a little nostalgic seeing the characters and pure ridiculousness that made the series so fun again, really, although I was a tad disappointed the movie was an origin story.
In any case, I'm definitely looking forward to that sixth season whenever it's coming, now. Heck, I might even try and schedule a rewatch of the series at some point too. Yeah it's got repetitive elements and stories and whatnot in it's run, but the movie proves more than anything that the series, at it's best, is really quite a lot of fun. :)
Man, I wish I could like Marathon's stuff. The character designs are always nice, and the elements of their show seem very reminiscent of old Hanna-Barbara cartoons, but there's always something off about them. I can never quite put my finger on it either.
I also wish Team Galaxy had lasted longer on CN.
Well, the only Marathon show that I've seen that I've really enjoyed is Totally Spies, although I did like Martin Mystery when it was on too. The only "off" thing about Totally Spies for me is the voice acting, which is sometimes too over the top and cartoony, making it a little annoying to listen to at parts. Other than that, though, the gags and characters themselves were always a lot of fun, so I've always managed to enjoy it. I can definitely see why some people might get turned off by it, though, especially since the series was a bit repetitive if I remember correctly.
Apparently WalMart has season 1 of Frisky Dingo for $5.
For that price, I'd be willing to give the show another chance.
If you like Archer, you probably should.
Shout! has obtained the rights to Transformers Animated and may or may not be doing a complete series set.
If my money's in a good place, I'll be giving the show a deserved rewatch.
Today I watched Zuko Alone for the first time in probably years. It's even better than I remembered and had even more of an emotional impact on me than before and both of this really says something.
So I'm currently watching Avengers Assemble. Assuming this is suppose to be season 2 to EMH? From what I remember of EMH, the action/animation (although, looked fairly quirky) is top notch. While the action in Avengers Assemble is not on par with EMH, I do think it's still better than some. I will also say that it's keeping me fairly entertained as well.
Quote from: Grave on September 01, 2013, 11:02:59 AM
So I'm currently watching Avengers Assemble. Assuming this is suppose to be season 2 to EMH?
It's a different show, actually.
Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes already had 2 seasons of its own. There was some talk from the producers of Avengers Assemble that it might be a sequel to EMH, but none of that came to fruition, and instead this show is completely unrelated to AEMH as it does not match up at all with its continuity, whatsoever.
Wow, really? I really need to watch the rest of EMHs then. I assumed it was the 2nd season mainly because I'm hearing the same voices.
It's a different cast with very few shared between the two shows.
I watched the episode "Slam Dunk" from Regular Show for the 2nd time a few days ago. Dear God do I love that episode. It was like watching NBA Jam have a hilarious cartoon. Definitely one of my top 5 RS episodes.
Today I decided to pick a series to start and eventually finish out of Justice League, Batman The Brave And Bold, Young Justice and Wolverine And The X-Men and I picked Batman The Brave And The Bold! Even though I did like the show, I felt like I didn't appreciate it enough after hearing Spark and ek's comments on the show. Episode 1 actually made me consider not liking the show at all because of BB's totally dude or whatever you call it talk. But after BB and his friend got done fangirling over the live Batman and Green Arrow vs. The Clock King fight, it wasn't bad at all. Speaking of BB, after learning that Will Friedle is the voice of Blue Bettle, I'll definitely be paying more attention to Blue Bettle and him being mentored by Batman. This should be a good marathon.
TBATB is just awesome. Bader is one of my favorite Batman voices in how Silver Age his seriousness is and how hilarious his comedy delivery is.
Yeah, gotta love D. Bader's Batman voice.
Since I refuse to go back in the Avatar thread due to lter-in-the-season spoilers, I'll talk about the first two episodes of season 2 of Korra here.
I was pretty disappointed. They crammed in a lot of bad attempts at comedy. Korra literally learned nothing from Tenzin. She still does that stupid airbending punching and she probably learned the airscooter from his kids. And yet again, she completely stops being his student to go off and do something else which she'll probably fail at and end up going back to Tenzin.
The dark spirits look great (and the show's animation looks noticably better) but they seem to much like generic anime creatures and I like ATLA's animal/insect spirits much more. The 3 animal/insects Aang faced had much more interesting motives than acting bad just because they were corrupted. The panda spirit rampaged because his forest was destroyed just like some of the dark spirits BUT he could be reasoned with and had a mind of his own. The dark spirits, as far as I can tell, are mindless and can't be reasoned with. Oh and there's Koh and the owl snake spirit. Both stood out to me because they are pretty much neutral. Having spirits being called straight up dark (even though Uncle tried to say otherwise but I see no reason to think differently) bugs me.
Speaking of Uncle whatshisface, that spirit dance he did seems like something straight out of another show. Also, they hinted at him being a Sozin/Amon/Ozai at the end of episode 2. Sozin/Amon because he might be trying to change a nation that isn't his by force to make it fit his vision and Ozai-like because he's a younger brother that became his nation's leader instead of his older brother and goes on to become a jackass. Excuse me if this is not the case, I skipped next week's episode's preview on purpose to be able to come in blind (and please don't tell me anything about it) so I don't want to be corrected except from watching the show itself. Also, Uncle seems to mean well so that makes him more in line with Amon. That wouldn't be so bad but that would mean history would repeat itself within the same year which is stupid...
I bet ShadowGentleman is raging now since Korra's father is no longer a normal parent. lol While I would have preferred that and them creating controversy in his past seems forced, I didn't find it to be all that bad (at least his part in it, see dark spirit rant above)
Anyway, I was hoping they were not setting up Asami and Bolin being a couple after they were showing them together because that'd be awful but after seeing how dull Korra's cousin is, Asalin is starting to look good.
Speaking of annoying relationships, Korra constantly snapping at Mako was the worst. He was just trying to give her moral support. Speaking of moral support, that's literally all everyone except Uncle can do since everyone, except Uncle cannot do anything to the spirits. Even then SHE NEVER LISTENS TO ANYONE, except, again, the uncle. Sheesh...
Lastly, I've been skipping commercials and all trailers on this season on purpose but I did see some of the promo that came on at the start of the show because I started watching 2 min. late and was wondering what the heck was going on and if they were actually just going to show previews for an hour lol I first saw the dark spirits there (Ugh) but more importantly, Korra reading some phoenix looking spirit and they showed the first Avatar. That really caught my interest. I'd literally have nothing to currently look forward to
this season if it weren't for that. I want to find out for myself if there's more to look forward to. I wouldn't mind seeing something like Koh returning or Uncle Iroh's trip to spirit world detailed.
Quote from: gunswordfist on September 15, 2013, 02:41:41 AMI bet ShadowGentleman is raging now since Korra's father is no longer a normal parent. lol While I would have preferred that and them creating controversy in his past seems forced, I didn't find it to be all that bad (at least his part in it, see dark spirit rant above)
I'm still trying to figure out why he thought it was necessary to wipe out an entire sacred forest to capture a dozen raiders.
Maybe because they were hiding in it or something? It wasn't like it was a huge forest or anything like that, and obviously he didn't know or believe that spirits resided there and would get revenge on him for destroying it.
It was a 'double edge' moment. He destroyed the forest in the process because he wanted the barbarians taken down asap but he didn't actually plan on causing that much damage. That flashback was supposed to show that he was just like Korra; impulsive and overly destructive while trying to do the right thing. Which is exactly why he has been so protective of her.
Not "watching", but more of "reading". Just saw this blog post (http://cartoonresearch.com/index.php/an-animation-jigsaw-puzzle/) by 89-year old animator Gene Deitch. People here may recognize him for those "Tom and Jerry" cartoons he did, which effectively proves the point he's trying to make in the post.
I remember being immersed with his ebook, "How to Succeed in Animation", when I was in middle school. It was my first exposure to the harsh realities that goes on in the animation industry. I even got to meet him few years ago, which was a wonderful day for me.
I'm helping him somewhat right now. I own a bunch of those Terrytoons cartoons in CinemaScope 16mm. Turns out Gene doesn't have any widescreen copies, so he asked if I can get the films transferred to digital (with him covering the cost). I agreed and am currently in the process of doing that.
Today I got up to the Journey into Batman (I think that's the episode title) BTBATB episode. I am impressed at how the show hits its stride at the getgo.
I watch Korra Season 2 episode 3 yesterday. It really caught my attention but unfortunately I expect them to have the civil war lead to some event that pisses off the spirits and then they go to war with the spirits blah blah blah instead of them continuing to explore the themes of neutrality and the gray zone.
Ugh at the latest episode of Korra.
Ok, things were getting interesting. Korra threatening to kill the judge shocked. When she attacked the judge's car, I was like, "Ugh Korra IS Azula" with how she tries to get everything she wants with her power. I got over my frustration with her ignoring someone's good advice AGAIN and thought it was interesting that she'd go that far...but then the judge said her uncle rigged the trial and setup her father. :imnothappy: So that means uncle is a jackass that mirrors Ozai and Amon. He probably still means well and wants to help the tribes but he's done too many inexcusable things, seems more like the same old same old (See: Amon, See: Ozai)...and I am pretty sure he was trying to kill Korra...hmmm, yeah he said he didn't need her anymore. He wanted her dead, oh and now that part reminds me of how Tarlokk treated Korra...
After all that, I am still very interested in seeing where the show goes. I just felt like the last episode missed out on greatness.
I'm not hearing a whole lot of positive comments about the season so far. Most are still willing to give it a chance, but not online or in real life am I hearing much of anyone really enjoying what's going on in the show.
I'm willing to stick with it, but I'm really liking where it's going. Korra in particular seems to be getting worse.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 27, 2013, 06:53:13 PM
I'm not hearing a whole lot of positive comments about the season so far. Most are still willing to give it a chance, but not online or in real life am I hearing much of anyone really enjoying what's going on in the show.
I've been hearing mixed things, myself. Some people don't like it, others find plenty of positive elements in it (Doug Walker's V-logs do a good job of pointing out both).
I feel like there are good parts to this series that a lot of people are downright ignoring. For instance, I loved Tenzin's segments in this episode, and how he was able to relate to his daughter in how they both had trouble getting along with their siblings. The humor in this episode was also spot on for the first time in a long while (something that this series was seriously lacking in, before).
I don't get why everyone is so hung up on Unalaq being a bad guy when everyone already saw it coming to begin with. We already established since the premiere that he would be a bad guy, so why do people still act pissed off in a surprised way that they actually went that route when it was obvious to begin with? Was everyone expecting a plot twist there, after all? I'm not saying that I like it any better, but its a flaw that I can get over. In that regard, GSF mentioned that Unalaq is no different from previous Avatar villains, including Ozai, but there's the thing everyone seems to keep ignoring. Avatar's villains were always pretty shallow and cliche. That's not excusing this season from doing that, but I wish people would stop acting like any of the previous seasons of Avatar were any better in this regard.
As it stands, I find this season to be entertaining so far, but ultimately pretty average in its sorry telling and characterization. Compared to the best that Avatar has had to offer, I can see why it would disappoint some people, but I suppose I just like to focus on what I actually like more than fixate on the things that I don't. Is this season great, so far? Not really. Is it decent material, at least? I think so. Is it piss awful? I guess some people might feel that way, but personally I just don't view it like that.
Also, as far as the story goes, I at least like how it's moving beyond just the Civil War of the Water Tribe and is bringing the United Republic into the mix. I'm not seeing anyone mentioning anything about that when they talk about the story in this episode, which surprises me, because I'd think that's kind of a big deal.
One thing's for sure- the ratings have been down this season.
The show probably shouldn't be on Friday nights, though.
What else is on Friday nights? I've been out of touch with current TV shows for years, so I honestly have no clue.
Uh, I know that TMNT was on around that same time when it had new episodes. It did okay, a little better than Korra is, I think.
SpongeBob has repeats on right before LOK, and they do better too. And SpongeBob's down in the ratings again. But everything's down in the ratings on Nick lately.
Quote from: Ensatsu-kenI don't get why everyone is so hung up on Unalaq being a bad guy when everyone already saw it coming to begin with. We already established since the premiere that he would be a bad guy, so why do people still act pissed off in a surprised way that they actually went that route when it was obvious to begin with? Was everyone expecting a plot twist there, after all? I'm not saying that I like it any better, but its a flaw that I can get over. In that regard, GSF mentioned that Unalaq is no different from previous Avatar villains, including Ozai, but there's the thing everyone seems to keep ignoring. Avatar's villains were always pretty shallow and cliche. That's not excusing this season from doing that, but I wish people would stop acting like any of the previous seasons of Avatar were any better in this regard.
People are growing tired of the repeated trend, at least that's what I'm seeing. I missed the last 2 episodes, but just going by the comments here, yeah, that's how I'm taking it. I think I recall saying that we've seen the sibling rivalry angle in Avatar repeated at least 3 times, and now we have another one. Of course I'm only speculating though.
Personally, I probably would've wanted to see a villain that's from the air temple, but maybe that's in the works for book 3.
Tenzin's dilemma with his siblings isn't sibling rivalry. It's family issues. Zuko and Azula had something more along the lines of rivalry, and it was something completely different from Tenzin and his siblings.
I was talking about Korra's father and uncle. Thought me quoting you would let you know that :sweat:
Whoops, I forgot about that. :sweat:
At any rate, I don't think it's much of a rivalry in that Korra's father didn't seem like he really wanted to get back at his brother or anything like that. It's more like Unalaq is just a dick and hates Korra's father just for having been destined for things greater than what he was meant to achieve. Unalaq is pretty much a really crappy version of Scar from The Lion King.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on September 28, 2013, 01:10:45 AM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 27, 2013, 06:53:13 PM
I'm not hearing a whole lot of positive comments about the season so far. Most are still willing to give it a chance, but not online or in real life am I hearing much of anyone really enjoying what's going on in the show.
I've been hearing mixed things, myself. Some people don't like it, others find plenty of positive elements in it (Doug Walker's V-logs do a good job of pointing out both).
I feel like there are good parts to this series that a lot of people are downright ignoring. For instance, I loved Tenzin's segments in this episode, and how he was able to relate to his daughter in how they both had trouble getting along with their siblings. The humor in this episode was also spot on for the first time in a long while (something that this series was seriously lacking in, before).
I don't get why everyone is so hung up on Unalaq being a bad guy when everyone already saw it coming to begin with. We already established since the premiere that he would be a bad guy, so why do people still act pissed off in a surprised way that they actually went that route when it was obvious to begin with? Was everyone expecting a plot twist there, after all? I'm not saying that I like it any better, but its a flaw that I can get over. In that regard, GSF mentioned that Unalaq is no different from previous Avatar villains, including Ozai, but there's the thing everyone seems to keep ignoring. Avatar's villains were always pretty shallow and cliche. That's not excusing this season from doing that, but I wish people would stop acting like any of the previous seasons of Avatar were any better in this regard.
As it stands, I find this season to be entertaining so far, but ultimately pretty average in its sorry telling and characterization. Compared to the best that Avatar has had to offer, I can see why it would disappoint some people, but I suppose I just like to focus on what I actually like more than fixate on the things that I don't. Is this season great, so far? Not really. Is it decent material, at least? I think so. Is it piss awful? I guess some people might feel that way, but personally I just don't view it like that.
Also, as far as the story goes, I at least like how it's moving beyond just the Civil War of the Water Tribe and is bringing the United Republic into the mix. I'm not seeing anyone mentioning anything about that when they talk about the story in this episode, which surprises me, because I'd think that's kind of a big deal.
Yeah, you basically said what I said but with a pointless "Why are you complaining?" angle.
I don't care if Unalaq was obviously going to be a villain. In fact, that's part of the problem. Korra fighting another jackass waterbender. Great...Oh and I am pretty sure Zuko wasn't a shallow villain...
And the United Forces coming into play sounded interested...in the first season's finale. I cringed when they said they needed them to win a war again.
I did think the comedy was finally good again and I liked Tenzin, Ikki, Kya and Bumi bonding. Also, Barrack (sp?) was bearable for the first time ever and he pretty much stole the show this episode. The bad still far outweighs the good so don't act surprised by all the complaints.
Quote from: Grave on September 28, 2013, 12:46:51 PM
Quote from: Ensatsu-kenI don't get why everyone is so hung up on Unalaq being a bad guy when everyone already saw it coming to begin with. We already established since the premiere that he would be a bad guy, so why do people still act pissed off in a surprised way that they actually went that route when it was obvious to begin with? Was everyone expecting a plot twist there, after all? I'm not saying that I like it any better, but its a flaw that I can get over. In that regard, GSF mentioned that Unalaq is no different from previous Avatar villains, including Ozai, but there's the thing everyone seems to keep ignoring. Avatar's villains were always pretty shallow and cliche. That's not excusing this season from doing that, but I wish people would stop acting like any of the previous seasons of Avatar were any better in this regard.
People are growing tired of the repeated trend, at least that's what I'm seeing. I missed the last 2 episodes, but just going by the comments here, yeah, that's how I'm taking it. I think I recall saying that we've seen the sibling rivalry angle in Avatar repeated at least 3 times, and now we have another one. Of course I'm only speculating though.
Personally, I probably would've wanted to see a villain that's from the air temple, but maybe that's in the works for book 3.
Heh, I was thinking about them having an Airbending villain a day or two ago. Maybe he goes around killing people via vacuum. lol
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on September 28, 2013, 01:36:41 PM
Whoops, I forgot about that. :sweat:
At any rate, I don't think it's much of a rivalry in that Korra's father didn't seem like he really wanted to get back at his brother or anything like that. It's more like Unalaq is just a dick and hates Korra's father just for having been destined for things greater than what he was meant to achieve. Unalaq is pretty much a really crappy version of Scar from The Lion King.
Sounds just like Iroh and Ozai to me.
A few days ago I got up to the GL episode of BTBATB. I loved the Doctor Fate intro so much.
Does BTBATB already have a thread because if so then move this post.
Early this morning I watched the Bronze Tiger and I just got finished with the Owlman 2 parter. These are all episodes I've seen before but seeing how great this show is even early on and how rewatching these episodes makes me appreciate them more has made me love the show more.
I got to say I love both Red Hood and The Joker's dialogue. The Red Hood laughing and saying it tickles while being electrocuted and the speech Joker gave when he met Batman were all too great. I also love how they gave good reasons from their impossible teamup. Not only did Batman need The Joker's - he gave him a chance due to his encounter with Red Hood.
We have one in the WB section, but I have no problem with leaving the post here.
The show is great for re-watches, because you find a lot of stuff you miss on the first go around.
The quadruple posting is why I requested a move. :sweat:
And yes you do. The Bronze Tiger episode had nods to Jet Li's Hero, the Wutang Clan and The Five Deadly Venoms. Amazing!
Ok, so I rewatched the last Korra episode again and it's not that bad itself. What it implies will happen in the following episodes is. Even then, it seems like it might not be all that predictable and cliched. I paid attention this time and Unalaq didn't attack first, Korra did. So he may not have been trying to kill her because he had no more use for her. He simply may have been trying to defend himself and his statement about the portal could have meant he just found another way to open it.
The bad is the evidence that he's so jealous of his brother that he set him up twice to get power. It might and hopefully is more complicated than that though. What I fully can't get over is how they made sure the Northern soldiers came off as jackasses. It's the equivalent of the show screaming "THESE ARE THE BAD GUYS! HATETHEM!" Maybe Unalaq told them to act like that as part of him setting up his brother but that's a stretch.
Anyway, I still love the comedy. Civil Wars 2 is perhaps one of the funniest Avatar episodes ever. Bumi speaking to his father's statue was one of the most touching moments of either of the shows and I like how Tenzin and Ikki had the same opinions of the others' siblings and how Ikki got along with hers at the end.
I just discovered that this existed. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sgALKH7cMKo)
:lol:
Y'know, Arthur gets dismissed by many because it's a PBS kids show, but honestly, it can be really damn funny and smartly written at times. Shame that people don't give it enough credit, really.
I remember being a kid watching that Arthur episode and being surprised they did a South Park Parody. Yes, I watched South Park and Arthur as a kid, who didn't?
I haven't watch Arthur in forever. The only thing I've heard about it was the fact that they changed animation styles last year.
Quote from: Daxdiv on November 11, 2013, 09:25:48 PM
Yes, I watched South Park and Arthur as a kid, who didn't?
I stopped watching
Arthur well over a year before I started watching
South Park. :P
Arthur was on at the same time as DBZ over here.
Guess which I chose to watch?
You chose wrong. 8)
This February, Criterion will put their first animated release out into stores- The Fantastic Mr. Fox.
Hell to the yes.
Well deserved, I say.
Uh, I guess we don't have a Family Guy thread.
Anyway, Brian died.
He'll be back.
No, he won't. (http://www.eonline.com/news/484172/family-guy-s-shocking-death-boss-reveals-why-they-decided-to-kill-off-spoiler)
I can't say I care. Brian has long become an unlikeable mouth for Seth and crew's radical liberal opinions and as a character he's selfish, hypocritical, and self-righteous, things he originally wasn't but flanderization had turned him so, much like how Stewie is almost unrecognizable as the character he once was, now. And he used to be my favorite character in the show bar none back when I could still look at these characters and watch this show and get something out of it. "Brian: Portrait of a Dog" and the season 3 two-parter had long since been some of my favorite episodes from the show. But I don't feel anything now. I'm not saddened, not confused, though maybe I feel exasperated by this show and it's attempts to still be funny and edgy when it has long since become a mediocre, offensive shell of what it once was. And that kinda makes me melancholy, since feeling disillusionment with something you once used to like is always a little depressing.
I guess the only thing of interest to me about this is that the Stewie-Brian dynamic, which drove much of the show, is now gone, which could screw them over if Vinnie doesn't work out for them. Knowing the crew, they could always just bring Brian back to life like they did James Woods if this doesn't work out, though.
Oh, so Brian was killed? I didn't even know the show had a new intro until a few days ago so that shows how much I've ignored FG.
Yeah, I don't really keep up with the Fox shows either. I didn't even know that Flanders and Mrs. Krabappel were married until a couple of months ago.
Our chocolate lab died of cancer back in January this year. He was 11 years old. Family Guy was in it's third season when we got him. Losing a dog is exactly like losing a family member or a close friend. One of the things I even said to myself to feel better about was "At least I still have Brian on Family Guy!". Watching this episode made me think about our dog. I almost cried when they showed Brian saying goodbye. It reminded me a lot of when we all around our dog as he was being put to sleep.
I liked Brian, so I'll definitely miss him. Some people I'm sure are glad he's gone because they're still mad about the political episodes, but that was only in season 7 and they toned that way down after that. There were plenty of moments that showed Brian cared about the Griffins, especially Peter and Stewie. All the Road to episodes were fun.
And I don't know why people doubt this was permanent. If they don't push the reset button at the end, that means they're not coming back. Have Diane Simmons, Jillian's boyfriend, Muriel Goldman come back? Or the Vaudeville Duo and Paddy? Yeah, I think they meant what they said.
Quote from: Avaitor on November 25, 2013, 06:30:41 PM
Yeah, I don't really keep up with the Fox shows either. I didn't even know that Flanders and Mrs. Krabappel were married until a couple of months ago.
I found that out a few weeks ago. Everyone saw my reaction.
I actually spent a very very long time away from Fox's primetime cartoons. When I got cable and Family Guy was on AS, I went years without seeing the Simpsons.
Well alright. I'll see you guys in May, if not sooner.
Quote from: Peanutbutter on November 25, 2013, 06:45:41 PM
And I don't know why people doubt this was permanent. If they don't push the reset button at the end, that means they're not coming back. Have Diane Simmons, Jillian's boyfriend, Muriel Goldman come back? Or the Vaudeville Duo and Paddy? Yeah, I think they meant what they said.
None of those characters were essential to the show in the same way Brian was, though. I'm not saying that I think they'll bring him back, but they had James Woods come back even though Diane killed him in "And Then There Were Fewer." If they would bring back to life a recurring guest star that admittedly has good eps but is non-essential, then it isn't out of the question for them to simply revive Brian if Vinnie doesn't work out for them.
Quote from: Avaitor on November 25, 2013, 06:30:41 PM
Yeah, I don't really keep up with the Fox shows either. I didn't even know that Flanders and Mrs. Krabappel were married until a couple of months ago.
I still keep up with
American Dad and
Bobs Burgers. Both have been hit and miss lately, but I still get enough of a kick out of them to keep watching.
Quote from: Cartoon X on November 25, 2013, 05:15:28 PM
No, he won't. (http://www.eonline.com/news/484172/family-guy-s-shocking-death-boss-reveals-why-they-decided-to-kill-off-spoiler)
To add onto this, Vinnie being a member of the cast was known about for almost a year. This article mentioned we were getting a new cast member with "attitude." (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/ustv/news/a439643/family-guy-to-introduce-pooch-with-attitude-as-new-character.html)
Quote from: Comeau on November 25, 2013, 06:59:23 PM
Well alright. I'll see you guys in May, if not sooner.
Are you shipping out?
lol no. What I'm saying is I'm not convinced Brian is gone and that he'll be back on the show by the time of the season finale in May.
Although I don't intend to watch every(or any really) episode until then. The episode from other day where he "died" was the first time I had seen the show in well over a year.
Did you check the link I posted? They seem serious about this, so I doubt they'll undo his death this season. If anything, they might undo it next season, but for now Brian is dead and Vinnie is his replacement.
Yeah, and as others have posted elsewhere, there's several upcoming episodes that feature Brian in some way, including a few where his name is in the title. Also there's a Comic Con image floating around where he is clearly visible, as well as Cleveland, who isn't even back in the show yet.
Besides, I don't trust the writers/producers of this show as far as I can throw them.
Ah man, I stopped watching The Amazing World of Gumball for a while, but the last few episodes have been absolutely amazing. In particular, "The Sweaters" was absolutely hilarious and "The World" was conceptually brilliant. More episodes like these please!
But while my interest in Regular Show, MAD, and Gumball have been re-vitalized for now, I'm finding myself bored with Adventure Time and Steven Universe, so I probably will drop them for now. I'll have to re-evaluate Uncle Grandpa and Teen Titans Go! since I haven't watched them much recently, but I feel I'll probably drop them for good as well.
So I guess I'll see you guys December 15th. (http://www.avclub.com/article/family-guy-to-bring-back-brian-in-obvious-testamen-106284)
heh, Family Guy.
Is this even a surprise?
Like I can't imagine anyone being genuinely shocked by this news.
I'm just wondering which Simpsons character they're going to kill off when it's time for that. My speculation is that it'll either be Abe or Sideshow Bob.
I finished part 2 of Gamma World on The Avengers today.
I liked Gamma World. It's where Hawkeye became the breakout character for me.
Just finished watching Kang The Conqueror. When he teleported into the room with Capt and Tony and was like "Hey, it's Metron...oh, wait, that's Kang." :>
Kang's story arc is my personal favorite in the series. The Ultron and Asgard arcs are also really good. The Skrull arc in the first half of season 2 is excellent, though after that most of the rest of the show just features stand-alone episodes of varying quality.
I had the sudden urge to watch Hey Arnold for the first time in over a decade, so I'm making my way through the first season now. My mom actually loves the show so much that when Amazon was doing that "order and we'll make a copy specifically for you" thing years back, she ordered the entire series, so I have the whole thing at my fingertips.
So, as you all know, I never really cared for Teen Titans, but everyone else seemed to love it. The last time I watched it was on TV almost 10 years ago. I got as far as the middle of season 2 before quitting on it. Recently I was thinking of giving it another chance since it's been so long, and being that I changed my mind on Avatar: The Last Airbender, maybe I might feel differently looking at this series again from a fresh, unbiased perspective. That said, should I bite, or is this one of those shows that just won't work for some people no matter what?
The most I can say about TT is that you should at least give the episodes dealing with Slade and Red X another shot.
I can say that looking back, I like Teen Titans more than Young Justice. If only because instead of playing too many cards at once, the former show knew how to utilize the characters it had rather than introducing new ones every other episode (besides the fifth season).
Teen Titans was a show I loved as a kid. Nowadays, though, I find it to be a very uneven show. There are plenty of episodes I still enjoy,but also plenty that I don't care for. Story-wise each season has it's own arc focusing on a specific member of the group, but only the first and fourth seasons really have good (as in, properly well-developed, interesting) ones. Character development is pretty consistent, though, and is a highlight, and Slade just has some badass charisma to him that even a lot of people who hate the show won't deny that he's a cool villain. But as far as a more comedic-oriented superhero show goes... Brave and the Bold beats the tar out of it on every single level, and it doesn't help that it's run is fairly inconsistent as far as good and eh episodes go. I don't quite enjoy the show as a whole as much as I used to did, though I do still love certain episodes from it. If you're interested in giving it another shot, I say you should go for it, but don't have too many expectations for it.
You know the funny thing I only just realized about Young Justice? Most fans seem to agree that the 2nd season is vastly superior to the first. Maybe I'm just too out of touch with comic book lore, but....yeah, I don't really think that I'll ever be able to see things that way, myself.
I never even finished season 2. I don't think I will.
QuoteMost fans seem to agree that the 2nd season is vastly superior to the first.
Really, now? Almost everyone I've talked to thought the show let itself go in the second season, saying that the show focused too much on Blue Beetle and the Reach plot. But then again, I wasn't following the YJ fandom that closely at the time.
I've just checked out a bunch of random reviews of the show online, and the opinion that the 2nd season was an improvement was far more common than I expected it to be. Back when the show was airing, I only saw the opinions of people here and on TZ. Over here most of us didn't care for season 2, whereas the opinions seemed to be more mixed on TZ.
I remember when Teen Titans and Duck Dodgers were the only good new cartoons on CN. I still like Teen Titans but I think the show can be pretty filmsy, whatever that means. I still stand by saying Static Shock was better. Teen Titans is at the bottom of the DCUA shows I like.
Two days ago I watched Come The conquerer(The Kang episode I was refering to a page back was actually The Man Who Stole Tomorrow) and then the next Kang episode. After that, I finished the Ultron arc and the episode with Hydra vs A.I.M and the Cosmic Cube. I've been surprised at Fantastic Four's appearance. With how they get excluded in Marvel Vs. Capcom games and the movies, I was expecting to never see them.
The Fantastic Four episode is one of my very favorites.
I just re-watched the first 2 episodes of Teen Titans. The 1st episode was painfully boring and predictable, and the 2nd wasn't much better. But, I'll still be venturing on.
Poor EK. I am sure you have something else to watch. A TT rewatch would be at the very bottom of my list.
I'm only really re-watching it because it's the only DC cartoon from that era that I never finished (unless you count The Batman, but there's no fucking way that I'm sitting through anymore of that piece of shit), and I have this strange feeling of incompleteness that bugs me about it. That, and apparently the show has a strong fan-base, so I figured I'd at least attempt to give it another try.
After this show, I'm re-watching Megas XLR.
I kind of see why TT has a strong fanbase. I do think they have some interesting personalities, even if they are pretty cliched.
And yeah, stay far far away from The Batman.
There's this neat set of deluxe Batmobiles a company in England made, and a bunch of those are available at my local comic book shop. They have the one from The Batman, but not from B:TAS.
The hell.
:D
I honestly don't see your opinion on TT changing, man. Honestly, I think it's a better show when it doesn't take itself seriously (which it does a bit too often) but I still consider it about average overall.
Me neither, but I'm at least giving it until the end of season 2 since all of its fans claim that it's the best part of the show.
I still think the Trigon arc is much better than the Terra arc, and that it's by far the best one in the show. Season 2 does have more standout episodes than season 4, though, so I can see why more people prefer that season overall.
Actually, yesterday morning I stopped at the start of the season finale with the Masters Of Evil and the stones. Now I am up to the episode where the Skrull Avengers attack Wakanda. A lot of good appearances have been made: Sue Summers, Rulk, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, Konan, Super Skrull, Agent Brand and S.W.O.R.D., War Machine and the newer Guardians Of The Galaxy. I am impressed. Also, Maria Hill is a bitch in everything she's in. She was the same way in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 and the comics.
Quote from: gunswordfist on December 17, 2013, 01:05:16 PM
Actually, yesterday morning I stopped at the start of the season finale with the Masters Of Evil and the stones. Now I am up to the episode where the Skrull Avengers attack Wakanda. A lot of good appearances have been made: Sue Summers, Rulk, Iron Fist, Luke Cage, Konan, Super Skrull, Agent Brand and S.W.O.R.D., War Machine and the newer Guardians Of The Galaxy. I am impressed. Also, Maria Hill is a bitch in everything she's in. She was the same way in Marvel Ultimate Alliance 2 and the comics.
Oh and Beta Ray Bill. I really liked that episode. It also made me understand whatthehell Beta Ray Bill is. I've only seen him in S.W.O.R.D. and that crappy Planet Hulk movie, so what can you expect?
Just picked up the Hey Arnold movie off of Amazon of $2. Pretty sure the shipping was more than the product. :lol: Felt like while I'm marathoning the show, I might as well just finish the collection and get the movie, which I've only ever seen once and the only scene I remember is Helga's confession. (Pretty sure that was the only reason anyone watched it; I think that was the main advertising point back in the day.)
I think I've seen it twice- once when it came out on video and I rented it, and some time later when Nick aired the movie.
I don't remember liking it as a kid, which doesn't bode well for how I'd take it now.
Early this morning I watched the Spider-Man and the first Vision episode. Those episodes made me decide the order of my favorite Avengers:
5. Hulk
4. Iron Man
3. Thor
2. Hawkeye (I'm still laughing at him trying to sucker punch Black Panther)
1. Cap (The Spider-Man and Skrull prison episodes won me over)
I also watched Assault On 42 less than an hour ago. The episode was great and then they revealed that the leader of the bugs is the main villain from my favorite comic book event so I liked it even more from there on. This show is getting really addictive.
Quote from: Avaitor on December 18, 2013, 08:08:13 AM
I think I've seen it twice- once when it came out on video and I rented it, and some time later when Nick aired the movie.
I don't remember liking it as a kid, which doesn't bode well for how I'd take it now.
Reading the synopsis, I think I didn't like it much either, but whatevs. $2 for a mediocre movie that was only meant to be a TV special. :lol: Aaaaand now my dvds are acting up, so I'm thinking it may be wise to invest in the Shout Factory versions of the releases. I assume the dvd quality would be higher than the old "you order it we print it" ones I have.
I only own season 1, but the quality's aite. About as good as you'd expect for an almost 20-year-old show I guess.
:lol: Actually, I mean the physical dvd itself in terms of quality. Some of them won't play at certain spots, and just freeze.
Quote from: Nel_Annette on December 18, 2013, 10:18:44 PM
:lol: Actually, I mean the physical dvd itself in terms of quality. Some of them won't play at certain spots, and just freeze.
Oh, well definitely. That's why I never did the Amazon stuff.
Ah well then. Guess I'll invest in those when I get the chance. I'm wondering if some episodes were moved around between the Amazon and Shout Factory releases though, because Amazon's edition of Season 3 is split into two volumes while SF's Season 2 is the one that's split up.
Watched The Red Skull/Winter Soldier episodes. Forgot to mention that it was good to see WS in the first Rulk episode.
Finished Live Kree Or Die today. Pretty awesome episode.
Finished the first season of Hey Arnold. Only the Christmas episode seems to be fucked up on the dvd. I can live with that. In all my selective nostalgia, I forgot about the really weird shit like The Sewer King. And that Valentine's Day episode is still really sweet after all these years.
Aaand I just started season two. Holy fuck, I forgot that Arnold's voice actor changed every season. Definitely preferred the first season voice to this new one, but eh, all it's gonna do is keep changing the further in I go.
Quote from: Nel_Annette on December 22, 2013, 02:02:22 AM
Finished the first season of Hey Arnold. Only the Christmas episode seems to be fucked up on the dvd. I can live with that.
But that's like, the best episode of the show. :(
I don't wanna double-dip just because of one episode being fucked, but... hrrrrgh. :cry: Maybe down the road when I have spare money I can get the Shout release.
I found the first volume of Space Ghost for $2 at the flea market yesterday. Now I think I'll marathon the first disc, cause why not?
So in Brak's first appearance, he's doing a Beavis impression, while the red guy you sometimes see in The Brak Show is Butthead. Hmm.
For some reason, I recently decided to sit down and actually watch Friendship is Magic.I have to confess that I actually kind of like it. It's not the greatest animated show I've seen, but it has a certain charm. I never get the feeling that the show talks down to it's intended audience and it manages to be cute without being saccharine. I guess if I had to describe the show using one word it would be this: Fun.
Yeah, it's a fun show and sometimes that's all I need.
You've described it perfectly. I actually haven't watched it in over a year, but that's why I liked it. I was one of those obsessed wackos though, so now I'm pretty damn burnt out.
Started over Wolverine And The X-Men with my oldest brother and as of yesterday, we got up to episode 2. I never got anywhere near finishing the show so this replay is overdue.
And here are the nominations for Best Animated Picture.
The Croods
Despicable Me 2
Ernest & Celestine
Frozen
The Wind Rises
I'm expecting Frozen to win. The Wind Rises lost its biggest factor (the sympathy vote) the moment Miyazaki nixed his plans to retire.
HA HA! Monster's University didn't make it. Suck it nerds that thought the Academy would be biased towards anything Pixar.
GO FROZEN!
Here's a challenge that seems appropriate for the blog- someone should watch every film nominated for Best Animated Feature and talk about which one should have won for their respective year.
Quote from: Avaitor on January 19, 2014, 01:57:21 PM
Here's a challenge that seems appropriate for the blog- someone should watch every film nominated for Best Animated Feature and talk about which one should have won for their respective year.
Maybe you should do that. You probably know a lot more about these films than I do and it would be good to see you blog again. ;)
Wow, you're actually talking about doing 48 feature films!! 53 if you decide to count the recent batch of nominated films. Seems like a bit of an overload.
But I'm curious as to what criteria you'd have to say for what film you thought was robbed that year. I mean, personal bias and all that junk. Though looking at the list, the only ones I do question that won were 2006 and 2012.
There's a surprising amount of nominees that have slipped through the cracks years from now. A lot of the foreign films in particular, and it'd be fascinating to discover them.
Then perhaps you could watch these films and discuss them?
I'll consider it, sure.
I will say that anyone who thought that Ratatouille was clearly the best nominee of 2007 is fucking crazy though. (LD, I'm looking at you)
Ratatouille is a great and frankly underrated film. Nobody gave two shits about Persepolis except internet hipsters. GET OVER IT.
It's the one time internet hipsters are right. And Ratatouille is Pixar's most soulless films. Even moreso than the Cars movies.
Quote from: Avaitor on January 20, 2014, 12:34:02 PM
I'll consider it, sure.
I will say that anyone who thought that Ratatouille was clearly the best nominee of 2007 is fucking crazy though. (LD, I'm looking at you)
I'm putting my work on this project on hold unless you turn that "I'll consider it" into a "Yes sirs, I shall assist in this endeavour." (Either that or you pay us to do this. I'm not picky.)
Quote from: Homura Akemi on January 20, 2014, 01:02:38 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on January 20, 2014, 12:56:06 PM
It's the one time internet hipsters are right. And Ratatouille is Pixar's most soulless films. Even moreso than the Cars movies.
Since when did they make a sequel?
To Ratatouille? Never. But if you meant Cars, the second came out in 2011.
Quote from: RacattackForce on January 20, 2014, 01:50:07 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on January 20, 2014, 12:34:02 PM
I'll consider it, sure.
I will say that anyone who thought that Ratatouille was clearly the best nominee of 2007 is fucking crazy though. (LD, I'm looking at you)
I'm putting my work on this project on hold unless you turn that "I'll consider it" into a "Yes sirs, I shall assist in this endeavour." (Either that or you pay us to do this. I'm not picky.)
Oh wow, you're doing this yourself? Message me if you want to collaborate.
Heck, if anyone wants in as well, feel free to. The more, the merrier.
Quote from: Avaitor on January 20, 2014, 02:22:37 PM
Quote from: RacattackForce on January 20, 2014, 01:50:07 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on January 20, 2014, 12:34:02 PM
I'll consider it, sure.
I will say that anyone who thought that Ratatouille was clearly the best nominee of 2007 is fucking crazy though. (LD, I'm looking at you)
I'm putting my work on this project on hold unless you turn that "I'll consider it" into a "Yes sirs, I shall assist in this endeavour." (Either that or you pay us to do this. I'm not picky.)
Oh wow, you're doing this yourself? Message me if you want to collaborate.
Heck, if anyone wants in as well, feel free to. The more, the merrier.
Yeah, I kinda pushed my way into this last night when I saw Dalek and Marquis talking about it on Skype. We divided the work up by years, with me taking 2003, 2006, 2009, and 2012. However, if you're helping as well...*gives Avaitor 2006* :>
The only nominee I've seen in 2006 is Cars. Alright.
I recently watched JLA Adventures Trapped in Time. I thought it was a good story with some solid action. Really love how despite it being called JL toon, it really focuses more on Karate Kid and Dawnstar being from the future and trying to stop Lex Luthor from erasing Superman, rather than the team of Superman, Batman, Robin, Wonder Woman, Cyborg, Flash and Aqua Man. That and Time Trapper.
Also... that potential sequel hook. Shame that Giancarlo Volpe probably won't be a part of that since he now works for Riot Games and doesn't really work for WB anymore.
After a little burnout break, I've finally reached season three of Hey Arnold. And I see that "Arnold Betrays Iggy" is in this season. Skipping this episode. Fuck this episode. Iggy's my most hated character on the show because of what happens here.
And from what I've read, even most of the crew who worked on the show hate this episode. :rtard:
The one where Arnold had to wear the bunny pajamas because Sid and Stinky guessed that Iggy wore them without Arnold actually saying that he did?
Every show has its share of bad episodes. Some which are highly forgettable no matter how many times you've caught a repeat, and others which stick in your mind nearly as much as the best, just for how rancid they are. This is obviously a case of the latter.
That episode was a big dick move.
Quote from: Avaitor on January 24, 2014, 01:47:14 PM
The one where Arnold had to wear the bunny pajamas because Sid and Stinky guessed that Iggy wore them without Arnold actually saying that he did?
Every show has its share of bad episodes. Some which are highly forgettable no matter how many times you've caught a repeat, and others which stick in your mind nearly as much as the best, just for how rancid they are. This is obviously a case of the latter.
Yep, that's the episode. I remember loathing it even when I was a kid when it first aired. For a show that was usually entertaining at best and so-so at worst, this one has always just stuck out for what a putrid piece of shit it is. Disproportionate retribution at its finest.
EDIT: Sid's annoying too.
That's, like, the only episode of Hey Arnold I've seen. Whenever I'd try to watch the show as kid, it always ended up being that one airing.
...And now I know why I never liked HA.
That's like, making "A Million Little Fibers" your one episode of South Park or "Moon of the Wolf" your one B:TAS episode. Yikes.
Hmm...that episode does not ring a bell to me at all. I guess I should be glad I never had to watch it. :D
I recently watched The Crystal Empire, the two-part premiere of My Little Pony's third season. I have to say that out of all the two-parters that I've seen so far, this one was by far the weakest.
I think one of the reasons why was the main villain: King Sombra could really have used an additional scene explaining his origins beyond "Pony-Sauron is back and he's going to re-conquer the lost city he ruled back in the old days". For example, where did Sombra came from? How did he become powerful enough to apparently conquer The Crystal Empire single-handedly (seriously, there's no indication of Sombra having an army or followers of any kind)? I realize that this show doesn't have the most well-developed bad guys, but with previous big bads I at least got where they came from and why they did what they did: Nightmare Moon was jealous of her sister, Discord was a spirit of chaos and finally, Queen Chrysallis wanted to conquer Canterlot so that she and the other changelings could drain the populace of their love, love being the changelings' primary food-source. Sombra by comparison just came off as being evil for no apparent reason. Basically, what I'm trying to say is that the guy was not the most compelling antagonist.
That said, I think what I'll remember the most about The Crystal Empire are the stairs. It seemed like the majority of the episode's suspenseful moments consisted of Twilight Sparkle running up and down stairs. Thrilling stuff, I was on the edge of my seat the whole time.
So, was there anything I liked about The Crystal Empire? Well, actually there were a few things: I enjoyed seeing Twilight grow more into her role as leader, I liked the return of Cadance and Shining Armor and thought the reversal of their roles from last time, with her powering the force-field around the city and he supporting her was a nice touch. I also thought that Sombra's magical trap was pretty clever. Oh, and finally (spoilers, just in case there are people who haven't seen it) I liked the fact that:
Spoiler
Sombra actually gets killed in the end rather than him being imprisoned again or turning a new leaf. Seriously, the crystal ponies straight-up killed their ancient oppressor with the macguffin and the power of love, Pharass approves :thumbup:
Oh, and the songs were fine, but then again, they usually are.
To summarize: I still like the show and will continue watching it, but this was no Return of Harmony, I'll tell you that.
I haven't seen it yet, but I want to get some opinions.
What do you guys think of Young Justice? I've heard differing opinions on it, and I'm curious what you guys think. I've actually heard some say it's better than Justice League.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on February 16, 2014, 12:35:16 PM
I've actually heard some say it's better than Justice League.
It most certainly is not.
Quote from: Avaitor on February 16, 2014, 12:47:24 PM
Quote from: talonmalon333 on February 16, 2014, 12:35:16 PM
I've actually heard some say it's better than Justice League.
It most certainly is not.
I haven't seen Young Justice, but considering how much I loved Justice League, that makes sense. I take it Young Justice is nothing well above average?
Young Justice is an OK show, IMO. Greg Weisman was one of the key minds behind the show, and he's also responsible for 2 of the best cartoons ever, Gargoyles and The Spectacular Spider-Man. Compared to the pedigree of quality set by those 2 shows, I found Young Justice to be a disappointment. It's by no means a bad show, but it really lacks the heart of those other 2 shows, as well as any of the best DCAU shows, for that matter. My main problem with it is that it tries to focus on too many characters and sub-plots at once, especially in the second season, which made it really hard for me to care about or identify with anyone in particular from the show.
As it sands, I'd say that it's above average and worth watching, but just be weary tht the series has plenty of problems that hold it back from being as great as it could've been.
Young Justice suffers from balance problems. Season 1 is rather slow with a lot of plot points never actually solved on screen and few characters. Season 2 has the opposite problem of being way too fast (and having too many season 1-related things happen off-screen) and having WAY too many characters most of which are never given any sort of focus.
It also, like all Greg Weisman shows, ends in a totally unnecessary cliffhanger.
As a whole it is a good show, but it could have been so much better. Especially considering the source material.
Thanks, guys. I might check it out someday. However, it's below many other animated shows on my list of stuff I need to get to.
I want to really watch it myself. I love watching shows people have a mixed opinion on and then forming my opinion to share.
Talon, have you seen Green Lantern: The Animated Series yet? I'd say that's a better show than Young Justice, personally, and IMO it's on the general level of quality of other good DCAU shows. It's not quite as great or memorable as BTAS or JL season 2, but I'd personally say that it's on a comparable level of quality to STAS, Batman Beyond, and JLU (minus the Cadmus arc, which was a huge step above everything else from that series). That'd definitely be worth your time if you haven't already seen it, IMO.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on February 18, 2014, 06:24:27 PM
Talon, have you seen Green Lantern: The Animated Series yet? I'd say that's a better show than Young Justice, personally, and IMO it's on the general level of quality of other good DCAU shows. It's not quite as great or memorable as BTAS or JL season 2, but I'd personally say that it's on a comparable level of quality to STAS, Batman Beyond, and JLU (minus the Cadmus arc, which was a huge step above everything else from that series). That'd definitely be worth your time if you haven't already seen it, IMO.
That's good to know. I thought about Green Lantern recently but haven't heard much about it. I considered checking its thread here just to see what you guys think, but didn't to avoid spoilers. Thanks, I'll check it out before Young Justice. Currently, I have Spectacular Spider-Man at the top of my list of superhero shows I want to see, as I've heard a lot of great stuff from you guys about that one.
EDIT: I might actually make a literal list for myself of shows I need to get to. Like (and speaking of Spectacular Spider-Man) I really need to see Gargoyles in its entirety. About a year ago, after my friends and I marathon'd the DCAU main shows (Batman, Batman Beyond, Superman, and Justice League), we decided to skip Static Shock and see Gargoyles. But that never happened. It needs to.
Have you already seen Batman: The Brave and The Bold?
I'd recommend prioritizing the shows in this order, myself:
1. Gargoyles
2. The Spectacular Spider-Man
3. Batman: The Brave and The Bold
4. Green Lantern: The Animated Series
5. Young Justice
I only saw a few episodes of The Brave and the Bold, back when it was still new. I'm really way behind. I remember, about a year back, I mentioned on this site that I think the only superhero show I like as much as Batman: The Animated Series, is Justice League. Once I see more, like many of those shows you listed, I'll have much more to compare and will be able to break from my noobish shell.
I also hear The Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes is quite good.
Shit, I knew I was forgetting something. Yes, AEMH is really good, despite somewhat of a dip in quality with the last quarter of the show. I'd stick it between BTBATB and GLTAS on the priority list.
Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes is awesome. I had zero experience with Marvel characters or stories outside of a few Spiderman and X-Men-related shows, but I really got into the show around the half-way point of the first season and it was one heck of a ride. I'd consider it to be one of my favorites. Admittedly, the show has some faults. The first seven or so episodes aren't as great as the remainder of the first season and season 2's last quarter is a bit weak, plus it never ends up resolving the whole Surtur story arc it set up. Still, when all's said and done, it's got more hits than misses and I'd strongly recommend you try it out.
While you're at it, I also think you should give Beware the Batman a shot too. While not on the level of BTAS or BTBATB, it's still a good show and I liked it about as much as the first half of Green Lantern: The Animated Series when it was on. Sadly, Cartoon Network hasn't resumed airing the series after taking it off schedule last October, so only the first 13 of it's 26 episodes are actually available to watch right now, but I still think it's a show worth watching if you're going through other good superhero shows anyway.
Otherwise, I agree with E-K's priority list, though I'd wedge BTB between GL:TAS and YJ.
How would you guys compare The Avengers to Justice League (another team superhero show)?
I'd say it's not quite as good as Justice League season 2, but much better than the rest of it. Overall I actually liked it more than Justice League, personally, but I think most others prefer JL to A:EMH.
My main problem with Justice League is that the first season is a bit of a slog. I mean, the second season was such an improvement in every way. The stories were better, and they justified the need to be two-parters far more.
I personally don't even have much problem with Unlimited. Sure, I did miss the dynamic between the main seven as a primary focus, but I also liked many of the new heroes, and I think it was a good idea for them to make story arcs take up a single episode. And of course, the Cadmus is great. The final season was definitely a downgrade from that, though, but I still enjoyed it.
Beware the Batman is good, huh? I'll have to consider checking it out.
When you think about it, these past handful of of years have been pretty good for super hero cartoons. At least if you forget Ultimate Spider-Man and its ilk...
Quote from: Cartoon X on February 18, 2014, 10:06:34 PM
I'd say it's not quite as good as Justice League season 2, but much better than the rest of it. Overall I actually liked it more than Justice League, personally, but I think most others prefer JL to A:EMH.
I actually agree with this wholeheartedly. Well, I'd argue that the Cadmus arc from JLU is also great, but aside from that and season 2, I think AEMH is the better team-based superhero show.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on February 18, 2014, 10:14:55 PM
My main problem with Justice League is that the first season is a bit of a slog.
I think the first season of EMH is much, much better than the first season of JL. The first 7 episodes are only a little rough, but they are still way better than episodes like JL's "Fury" or "War World." I don't have any problems with
Unlimited beyond not liking the first few episodes and a couple in season 3, but I still think I'd prefer either season of EMH to it when all was said and done. But regardless of whether you'll find it better than JLU or not, I think EMH is a great show and something you'd enjoy.
Quote from: Avaitor on February 18, 2014, 10:29:26 PM
Beware the Batman is good, huh? I'll have to consider checking it out.
When you think about it, these past handful of of years have been pretty good for super hero cartoons. At least if you forget Ultimate Spider-Man and its ilk...
Yeah, BTB is solid. Even though it's another "serious"
Batman series, it does more than enough to distinguish itself and it has a fresh approach on the characters that I really appreciate. I certainly enjoyed it just as much as the first half of GL:TAS, and it's a shame that CN won't air the rest of it. :( Hopefully they'll put it all out on dvd, at least.
And yeah, we've gotten some great superhero shows these last few years...except for some of the more recent Marvel series. Ugh. And with BTB off the air DC's tv animation output may refocus to comedies like
Teen Titans Go!. Not really happy with that thought...
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on February 18, 2014, 10:33:29 PM
I actually agree with this wholeheartedly. Well, I'd argue that the Cadmus arc from JLU is also great, but aside from that and season 2, I think AEMH is the better team-based superhero show.
:swoon:
It's a little tough for me to say that EMH is better than Justice League, since despite my initial dislike of JL (can you blame me for bailing out of the first season early on, though?), I really grew to love it and I still pull out the DVDs regularly, but at the end of the day, it probably is the better show.
The Avengers is surprisingly good. I have yet to go through season 2 (though I should since it's on Netflix) but I would about put it on par with the best of Justice League.
The Brave & The Bold and The Spectacular Spiderman should be your priority superhero shows, however. Those are two of the best. Shame all of Marvel's shows are dogs now, though.
So did they replace Spectacular Spider-Man because of the recent Spider-Man movie? It seems like everyone here thinks the Ultimate series is vastly inferior.
Spectacular was sadly a casualty of two recent changes which were happening with Marvel at the time- Disney's purchase of Marvel, and Jeph Loeb's beginning run as the head of Marvel's TV department. Disney and Loeb both wanted a Spider-Man show to call their own, which sealed SSM's doom.
I'm also convinced that Loeb is the reason EMH's production was sped up. The show was in development before he came on board, and the plan was for the show to start when Avengers came out, but it started a year early and ended not too long after the movie finally came. Who knows, we could probably still have it, or at least not have had Man of Action's weaker run on the show without Loeb.
Hmm, I might check out Green Lantern. I just assumed it was an ignorable CG show. talon, ever watched Legion Of Superheroes?
Justice League's second season is possibly my favorite part of the entire DCAU.
Sorry, gunswordfist, I missed this post.
Quote from: gunswordfist on February 19, 2014, 03:49:15 PM
Hmm, I might check out Green Lantern. I just assumed it was an ignorable CG show. talon, ever watched Legion Of Superheroes?
I haven't. How is it?
:) I really love the show. Simply put, think Teen Titans but much much better. If I ever complete the show, it'll likely be in my top 5 for superhero cartoons.
So this is what it sounds like in Japanese. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8RlWeFW3Kkg)
Pretty good sounding dub. I like Eddy's voice better than the Hindi version, at least.
It's kind of what I'd expect, actually.
I swear that Asuka's VA is voicing Sarah, though. But I'm not sure how to check, heh.
So, for this April Fools day, first [adult swim] aired a new episode of Perfect Hair Forever, and now they're having a Space Ghost: Coast to Coast marathon, it seems.
VlordGTZ, if you're still up, please record this.
A day or two ago, I read online that Young Justice and GL have been back on Netflix since the 30th. This afternoon, I watched episode 1 of Young Justice. I haven't seen the show in like 2 years. I got up to like episode 10 before I lost CN. The show was very slow but it still held my interest.
Watched about 4 episodes of Young Justice yesterday. Still just catching up. I've been wondering..why hasn't Miss Martian been using her powers more? She could have easily smashed Mister Twister with her telekinesis or at least lifted him and their mics where jammed in the Bane episode...but I'm sure Aqualad could have just asked her to telepathically link them. I know their team has brain farts but this just seems pointlessly stupid.
I'm up to the Downtime episode. I remember that episode being boring...and boy was I wrong. It had probably the best underwater battle I've ever seen.
Well here's another list entirely. (http://www.timeout.com/newyork/film/the-100-best-animated-movies-animation-experts)
That's an interesting list. I don't really agree with a lot of the ordering, though (Frozen over Lion King? Um...) and King Kong and Roger Rabbit really shouldn't qualify to be on it since they are predominantly live-action films. I'm also disappointed that Beautiful Dreamer, Summer Wars, Wolf Children, and Redline weren't on the list, for obvious reasons.
I watched 4 episodes past the last Young Justice episode I've ever seen (the one where they lost their memories in the last 6 or so months. I saw it when it premiered 4 years ago) so far I'm really liking this show. I'm guessing this is the show's prime and then it goes all Bleach and starts introducing too many characters.
Episode 27 is when it starts getting way too unwieldy.
Ah sweet. ;D I'm on like episode 13.
Quote from: Cartoon X on April 16, 2014, 07:06:04 PMThat's an interesting list. I don't really agree with a lot of the ordering, though (Frozen over Lion King? Um...) and King Kong and Roger Rabbit really shouldn't qualify to be on it since they are predominantly live-action films. I'm also disappointed that Beautiful Dreamer, Summer Wars, Wolf Children, and Redline weren't on the list, for obvious reasons.
You should read the individual lists from the animation critics/journalists that helped compile this list. Those seem to have much more thoughtful choices, including some titles that didn't make it onto the list. I know at least one person had Summer Wars included in his top 10, but that was the only case of that film ever being mentioned. There were also no other representatives of Hosoda's work, so nobody included The Girl Who Leaped Through Time or Wolf Children (though, to be fair, the latter is still relatively recent, being less than 2 years old at this point, and having been dubbed less than a year ago). And of course, there is no mention of Redline anywhere to be found. It seems that for the most part, only Miyazaki/Studio Ghibli or Satoshi Kon films got any love in terms of representatives of great Japanese animation.
Oh well, just for the hell of it, I'll post my current top 10 favorite animated films of all time for you guys to compare to the critics (which shouldn't be too different from the last time I put it up).
1. Summer Wars
2. The Lion King
3. The Hunchback of Notre Dame
4. Rurouni Kenshin: Trust and Betrayal
5. Batman: Mask of the Phantasm/Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker (cheating, I know)
6. Wolf Children
7. The Nightmare Before Christmas
8. Up
9. Redline
10. Felidae (this spot is really a toss up between this, Toy Story 3, and Monsters, Inc., for me)
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on April 16, 2014, 07:52:05 PM
You should read the individual lists from the animation critics/journalists that helped compile this list. Those seem to have much more thoughtful choices, including some titles that didn't make it onto the list.
I did! I liked their personal lists, but that really didn't have anything to do with how I felt with the combined list, so I didn't think to comment on them.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on April 16, 2014, 07:52:05 PM
And of course, there is no mention of Redline anywhere to be found. It seems that for the most part, only Miyazaki/Studio Ghibli or Satoshi Kon films got any love in terms of representatives of great Japanese animation.
Yeah, the anime choices were pretty expected, but still, they were good films and I was pleasantly surprised to see
Mind Game made the list.
At the very least, the list is a good resource for me to use to check out some films I haven't got around to seeing yet. I'm going to have fun filling my gaps this summer. :)
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on April 16, 2014, 07:52:05 PM
1. Summer Wars
2. The Lion King
3. The Hunchback of Notre Dame
4. Rurouni Kenshin: Trust and Betrayal
5. Batman: Mask of the Phantasm/Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker (cheating, I know)
6. Wolf Children
7. The Nightmare Before Christmas
8. Up
9. Redline
10. Felidae (this spot is really a toss up between this, Toy Story 3, and Monsters, Inc., for me)
Your list definitely stands out against those critics' picks. thumbup:
Come to think of it...
Felidae wasn't on their list was it? Hmm....
The individual lists are worth a look, yeah. And I've seen Jerry stand by his choice of Kung-Fu Panda elsewhere. I prefer the sequel, but I like seeing the original get some love here as well.
As of a few minutes ago, I got up to Secrets. That had a surprisingly dark twist.
As for the last couple of episodes before that, Failsafe was kind of disturbing because no matter what they did, things got worse but the fact that they were devastated by a dream, no matter how they tried to explain its severe effect on them, was silly. I was hoping things would go back to normal what after that episode and they were basically just using the episode to show M'Gann telepathic potential. I fear that they will actually use that episode to set up a major breakdown in the time. Ugh, I cannot take that seriously.
So that really was Icon in Failsafe, huh?
Anyway, I've been thinking about who my favorite Young Justice character is so far. Of course, I'm going with Batman, even though I was really thinking about someone who was on the teens' team. What I like about this Batman is he is actually a good father figure and doesn't push people away like many other iterations of him have. 4 years ago, I was surprised that Batman didn't tell Superman to keep Superboy as far away from him but keep a close eye on him. Instead, he sits him down and tells him to be a father to Superbo. I'm still shocked by that. Plus, in a later episode, Bruce sees Robin is upset and goes to comfort him with a game of basketball. This is perhaps the most matured version of Batman I've ever seen.
Ok, back to who's my favorite Young Justice member. Aqualad is like Cyclops, I have nothing bad to say about him but he's too much of a straight arrow. I have no clue why M'Gann is a valley girl. All I can say is I'm glad she hasn't annoyed me. Superboy is your typical badboy who has deep seeded anger issues and has his shirt off at times for no reason. He's clearly still developing though and I'm guessing a certain plot twist about him will rear its head on the show and that should make things interesting. I have nothing against him either but I am not a fan. Artemis, eh, meh I guess. I can't say I care about anything she's going through. Robin's wordplay is the biggest thing that sticks out to me..and it's a bit annoying. I can't say I care too much about anything about him, really. So that leaves Kid Flash, who can be a bit too whiny and "dude" but his 16th birthday episode did win me over. So he's my favorite on the team, at least for now.
This morning I learned that Tom & Jerry is a lot less funny when it's animated in flash. The characters don't seem as "squishy", and the slapstick just doesn't feel the same.
I got around to catching the first episode of Clarence, and I loved it. Finally, a pure slice-of-life exploration of childhood, with no supernatural shenanigans or exaggerated weirdness! The show feels very grounded, and true to life and how kids are, and I appreciate that. It's also very funny, in it's quiet, cute way. I really hope this show does well, because it might be the best thing to come from the network in a long, long time.
The new Regular Show was excellent too. I never knew there would be such a dark reason for why Skips skips. Very tragic. Man, both AT and RS have been making some great episodes lately. I hope they keep it up.
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 19, 2014, 02:18:03 AM
So that really was Icon in Failsafe, huh?
Anyway, I've been thinking about who my favorite Young Justice character is so far. Of course, I'm going with Batman, even though I was really thinking about someone who was on the teens' team. What I like about this Batman is he is actually a good father figure and doesn't push people away like many other iterations of him have. 4 years ago, I was surprised that Batman didn't tell Superman to keep Superboy as far away from him but keep a close eye on him. Instead, he sits him down and tells him to be a father to Superbo. I'm still shocked by that. Plus, in a later episode, Bruce sees Robin is upset and goes to comfort him with a game of basketball. This is perhaps the most matured version of Batman I've ever seen.
Ok, back to who's my favorite Young Justice member. Aqualad is like Cyclops, I have nothing bad to say about him but he's too much of a straight arrow. I have no clue why M'Gann is a valley girl. All I can say is I'm glad she hasn't annoyed me. Superboy is your typical badboy who has deep seeded anger issues and has his shirt off at times for no reason. He's clearly still developing though and I'm guessing a certain plot twist about him will rear its head on the show and that should make things interesting. I have nothing against him either but I am not a fan. Artemis, eh, meh I guess. I can't say I care about anything she's going through. Robin's wordplay is the biggest thing that sticks out to me..and it's a bit annoying. I can't say I care too much about anything about him, really. So that leaves Kid Flash, who can be a bit too whiny and "dude" but his 16th birthday episode did win me over. So he's my favorite on the team, at least for now.
Whoops, I forgot to mention that Red Arrow was my favorite before Kid Flash just a few days ago. He's a bit whiny too but he seemed to be the most solid out of the other younger heroes.
Image...hmm, an episode that had blood coming from a kid's mouth, whitewashing and implied sexual roleplaying and bisexuality. Interesting. Watched that a day or two ago an I'm about to watch two more episodes.
So I saw the episodes where they revealed who Connor and Artemis' dads are. I caught some vibes when he showed up in Artemis' room but that reveal took me by surprise. I'm guessing those shields were supposed to be like Batman Beyond slappers.
Overall, today I got up to the what I'm guessing is the season finale that ended on New Year's. I read a spoiler here about who is the mole and is kind of funny that damn near everyone except who I heard about has been seriously implicated as being the mole.
I'm just waiting to see your reaction to season 2, which it seems like you're about to start watching. Needless to say, for the majority of us, it was....less than stellar.
Make sure to also play the video game. Myself and the rest of the Skype crew can attest to its utter brilliance. *cough*
There's a game. Gee, that's intriguing. :>
Boy, do I feel stupid. So, I saw that Netflix said that they only had one season of Young Justice long ago but I ignored that. I can't say I didn't see this coming..but they didn't have season two. :D So it's just 26 episodes, ugh. I just rewatched an episode of Hunter X Hunter 2011 instead.
I forgot to add this the part in YJ when Cheshire said something about being on a date with Red Arrow and then Artemis said, "You two are dating?!" Red Arrow said, "What?! No!" was hilarious :D
I forget, have you seen Green Lantern: TAS yet?
Nope.
Well that's on Netflix too. And it's better than Young Justice. ;)
I'll think about watching it soon.
Within the last hour, upon listening to Avaitor's recommendation, I watched the first episode of Green Lantern. I was actually impressed. I thought the CG would suck because those promos sucked, but it didn't. It looked like decent movie quality. As for the important stuff, it was pretty entertaining and held my interest. My only complaint is I kind of don't like Hal's voice. It's good to finally see him in something good that's not an animated movie or comic though. I'll definitely be watching much more of GL. ;D
Yeah, GL's animation looks better in motion. It's some of the best CG done for an animated series yet.
Even in motion, it looked lowrent in those...lowrent CN promos. :D It doesn't look too far away from Pixar movie quality. I'm used to seeing crappy level CG which is why I was so reluctant to watch GL
Watched episode 2 and 3 of GL yesterday. So wait, Kilowog (sp?) says he saved most of the people on the planet, implying that some in fact did die and then the next they say that all survived? I'll have to look into later. I was also hoping that the finger would also be pointed at Hal Jordan for the destruction of that world because the ship wouldn't have had a tracker nor would have the Red Lanterns have tracked them to the planet if Jordan didn't go after that Hunter Killer drone to get some petty payback.
Anyway, so far so good, in spite of my above concerns. I didn't expect Razer to join them until around the time it happened. Decent character even though his dialogue deliver is a bit dry.
I think Razer is easily the best character in the show. I'm curious to see what you'll think of him as his character arc progresses. :)
Watched episodes 4 and 5 today. Episode 4 was a team bonding episode and Episode 5 was that gladiator-esque one. I was surprised by some of the twists at the end and how calming they acted about someone being dead. I thought he was asleep or something until Hal said something about him being murdered. I also thought Kilowog was actually dead after that part :D but then I remembered they were talking about a trap and figured out what was going on. Who became the new GL at the end did surprise me though.
I watched the GL episode Lost Planet last night. I officially need to stop thinking I know when the show will be predictable because it sent me for a loop again. I did not expect to see who was selected to be a new GL at the end. I went :SHOCK: @ first because I didn't know what the hell was going on. :D
Whoa, I haven't been in here in awhile.
I'm surprised how quickly characters come back in these episodes. The last episode I watched was Invasion. This show has really been holding my attention.
Two days ago I watched Homecoming. I thought that episode was kind of weak, especially Jordan's fight with Ah...the Red Lantern leader. I prefer many of the more character driven episodes. I watched the first Guy Gardner/Manhunter episode today. Is Guy ALWAYS considered a dick in cartoons. :> I'm still laughing at how John Stewart and Hal quickly said no about him joining the Justice League in Young Justice.
On May 1, I watched 3 episodes of GL. Whoa...THAT was the Anti-Monitor. I heard a lot about him. What a big surprise. Good to see Razer again and then Sinestro's first appearance.
Aya sounds more like Azula now.
I think that was the intent. ;)
Hmmm... :thinkin: Well anyway, it was the Star Sapphire, love vs hate episode where I noticed that and that's the GL episode I'm up to.
I watched episode 23 and then 24, Scarred in GL. Whoa, the latter episode revealed a lot.
I watched episode 25 and 26 of Green Lantern The Animated Series today. The last episodes Netflix had and of season 2. How this season ended was a bit too predictable. I also still don't care for Razer's and Aya relationship. It seems pretty silly to me. Overall, the season was alright but I liked season one more. That season was much more unpredictable and introduced more and better characters. The only new character I cared about in season 2 is Guy Gardner. Also, my favorite villain so far is whatchumicit's brother from that gladiator alien planet. I loved how the mood changed when he thought he got a green lantern ring and gave that speech. I wish I could have nominated him for the greatest villain tournament.
Yeah, I wasn't hot on Razer and Aya's relationship, but I still liked season 2.
I did too by I thought season 1 was clearly superior.
Ok, all that's said and done, I like GL about as much as Young Justice right now. I obviously need to see the rest of both but that's how I have it for now.
Today I'll restart on Wolverine And The X-Men again (I restarted at the beginning of this year, I believe. Either way, I never got that far into the show so it doesn't matter). After I finish that, I'll watch Batman, and all of it, finally. Then maybe Superman and ugh, start over Justice League. The beginning of that series is of course painful to me but I'll do it for completion.
Maybe you can give SSM another chance, as well?
I'd watch Gundam or Fullmetal Panic before that. :awesome:
Quote from: Avaitor on May 07, 2014, 04:43:35 PM
Maybe you can give SSM another chance, as well?
Says the guy who won't give the shows we give you a chance.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on May 07, 2014, 04:47:09 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on May 07, 2014, 04:43:35 PM
Maybe you can give SSM another chance, as well?
Says the guy who won't give the shows we give you a chance.
Have you seen Hannibal or Orange is the New Black yet?
Quote from: Avaitor on May 07, 2014, 06:07:12 PM
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on May 07, 2014, 04:47:09 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on May 07, 2014, 04:43:35 PM
Maybe you can give SSM another chance, as well?
Says the guy who won't give the shows we give you a chance.
Have you seen Hannibal or Orange is the New Black yet?
Yes. Halfway through the second season for Hannibal, and will continue OitNB once school ends.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on May 07, 2014, 06:13:55 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on May 07, 2014, 06:07:12 PM
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on May 07, 2014, 04:47:09 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on May 07, 2014, 04:43:35 PM
Maybe you can give SSM another chance, as well?
Says the guy who won't give the shows we give you a chance.
Have you seen Hannibal or Orange is the New Black yet?
Yes. Halfway through the second season for Hannibal, and will continue OitNB once school ends.
Sweet! I actually do have time in the summer to try some more new stuff, and Fate/Zero has been up there on my "to-watch" list. Jojo as well.
But at least I haven't pretended to see what you've namedropped for me and say that I don't like them, unlike someone else we know...
You guys all need to watch Forrest Cat. Here's an episode: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhqvnZwEZz8
And yet no matter how much stuff I watch that you guys recommend, nobody is ever going to read AnJ, so there's still no justice done, here.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on May 07, 2014, 06:42:10 PM
And yet no matter how much stuff I watch that you guys recommend, nobody is ever going to read AnJ, so there's still no justice done, here.
I'll read it once I finish college. :rtard:
Well, might as well wait a few more months since Hox is going to redo the translations of the first 6 volumes to make the translations more consistent throughout the entire series.
But other than you, I'd like to hear everyone else's excuse for not having enough time to check out the only series that I've recommended in years.
And while we're at it, when's Foggle going to watch Summer Wars and Wolf Children?
I'll probably go back to watching Buffy this summer in case I was on the tip of anyone's tongue.
But this summer could be rather packed otherwise for me. I don't know yet.
Oh, and just for the record I give props to CX for being the only person so far who listened to any of my recommendations. :thumbup:
And before anyone brings it up, The Wire is literally the very next thing I'm watching after I catch up to Game of Thrones, and I plan on starting Vinland Saga next week, and that's all in addition to studying for my upcoming NAPLEX and state board exams while simultaneously still trying to line-up a job for myself.
I always forget to start up AnJ! I really do want to. Hopefully I can soon.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on May 07, 2014, 07:05:53 PM
But other than you, I'd like to hear everyone else's excuse for not having enough time to check out the only series that I've recommended in years.
I'm graduating at the end of the summer so I'm busy with school too! Also, I'm just kind of bad about watching/reading things. Pretty much everything I check out these days is based on recommendations from you guys and my other friends, but I'm
so slow at getting around to things.
QuoteAnd while we're at it, when's Foggle going to watch Summer Wars and Wolf Children?
Eventually. :lol:
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on May 07, 2014, 06:42:10 PM
And yet no matter how much stuff I watch that you guys recommend, nobody is ever going to read AnJ, so there's still no justice done, here.
Since I'm pretty much done with this semester, I literally just started reading AnJ. Keep in mind, I also have Legend of the Galactic Heroes, The Wire, and assorted other comics and manga I want to finish over the summer, so scheduling by massive backlog of recommendations is the biggest thing preventing me from finishing anything. :??:
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on May 07, 2014, 07:14:33 PM
Oh, and just for the record I give props to CX for being the only person so far who listened to any of my recommendations. :thumbup:
:)
As far as western animation goes, I'm pretty much up to speed on everything, though at some point I would like to revisit some stuff, like the Disney Afternoon shows and classic Disney and
Looney Tunes cartoons. I do have some stuff I haven't tried yet, like the newer
Pound Puppies cartoon and
Ruby Gloom, and I do want to give
Tron: Uprising and
Motorcity proper watches since I didn't see their full runs. But I'm really more interested in seeking out good foreign animation right now that isn't anime... but the only thing I've found that appeals to me so far is
Wakfu atm. :sweat: Movie-wise, though, that list of the greatest animated film as decided by industry professionals has some stuff I haven't seen yet, so I'll be checking out most of those over the summer.
I have large anime, manga, film, and live-action television backlogs, and I don't think anyone can recommend me stuff for those that I don't already plan to watch. Not really sure where to start with comics and music, though.
Quote from: Cartoon X on May 07, 2014, 09:44:22 PM
and I do want to give Tron: Uprising and Motorcity proper watches since I didn't see their full runs.
:thumbup:
I will when more than 3 people here have watched Legion Of Superheroes, you bastard.
Quote from: gunswordfist on May 07, 2014, 09:53:22 PM
I will when more than 3 people here have watched Legion Of Superheroes, you bastard.
I've seen it too, GSF, so that makes 4. ;)
Quote from: Foggle on May 07, 2014, 06:18:49 PM
You guys all need to watch Forrest Cat. Here's an episode: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qhqvnZwEZz8
No subs, no go. :P
:thumbup:
My problem is getting back into anime. I'd literally rather try anything else before going back into it.
Well, who says you have to get back into anime as a whole? I find that it's better to think of each show as its own thing rather than grouping them up into some broad category. I have long since stopped calling myself an anime fan, but rather I just happen to enjoy certain shows that are anime.
Quote from: Avaitor on May 08, 2014, 09:10:13 AM
My problem is getting back into anime. I'd literally rather try anything else before going back into it.
Well, don't be a DarthGonzo and refuse to touch any anime simply because it's anime. That line of thinking aligns with the people who refuse to watch Archer because of the animation.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on May 08, 2014, 09:16:02 AM
Well, who says you have to get back into anime as a whole? I find that it's better to think of each show as its own thing rather than grouping them up into some broad category. I have long since stopped calling myself an anime fan, but rather I just happen to enjoy certain shows that are anime.
Well it's going to take some time to knock some sense into the guy who thought Rurouni Kenshin was mediocre and Yu yu Hakusho had long fights after barely watching the show. :>
Seriously, we all know that most of anime is garbage and that you have to just look for the good recommendations. Those rules aren't that hard to follow, Avaitor.
Quote from: gunswordfist on May 08, 2014, 03:12:45 PM
Seriously, we all know that most of anime is garbage and that you have to just look for the good recommendations. Those rules aren't that hard to follow, Avaitor.
This is basically the rule for everything. A lot of stuff in any medium, be it film, music, literature, etc., is either bad or mediocre, but there are still plenty of good stuff to discover, so long as you do the research and listen to recommendations from people you have similar tastes with.
Yeah, I was kind of thinking the same. Every medium/form of entertainment has mostly garbage, you just got to know where to look.
Quote from: Cartoon X on May 08, 2014, 03:17:12 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on May 08, 2014, 03:12:45 PM
Seriously, we all know that most of anime is garbage and that you have to just look for the good recommendations. Those rules aren't that hard to follow, Avaitor.
This is basically the rule for everything. A lot of stuff in any medium, be it film, music, literature, etc., is either bad or mediocre, but there are still plenty of good stuff to discover, so long as you do the research and listen to recommendations from people you have similar tastes with.
Yeah, pretty much. The only people who don't follow those rules are teenagers and assholes.
I just know that Avaitor is no longer a teenager.
I watched 3 episodes of Wolverine And The X-Men yesterday. Not bad, so far.
It's not an "all anime is bad EVAAAA" thing. I still like what I like, and I did enjoy trying out Space Dandy, but I can't seem to get invested in watching an anime series on a regular basis like I used to. I know that I should ease into some series again slowly, but it's hard for me to do that anymore unless it's on TV.
Lately I'd rather just watch live-action or domestic animated series instead, and even with the latter, it's not as easy for me as it used to be, especially with shows for younger demographics.
Shows are bite-sized now though. And thanks to Daisuki, it may as well be TV.
For instance, this show's only 12 episodes. Just force your way through the first 3 and see if it can grab you. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvbUJtmvooI) I know watching regular TV's easier, but just force yourself to hit the play button. This show forced Dalek off his lazy arse. Maybe it can do it to you.
For me, anime and western animation are basically the same. And for both, I haven't watched as much lately as I wish.
And I've hung around with too many anime bloggers who think people too lazy to watch anything are the salt of the earth.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on May 08, 2014, 06:19:44 PM
For instance, this show's only 12 episodes. Just force your way through the first 3 and see if it can grab you. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XvbUJtmvooI) I know watching regular TV's easier, but just force yourself to hit the play button. This show forced Dalek off his lazy arse. Maybe it can do it to you.
That particular show is also on Netflix, so you can watch it on tv if you so wish. Just remember to watch it subbed, though.
Or you could always do SOMETHING RESPONSIBLE. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/jojos-bizarre-adventure/episode-10-new-yorks-jojo-652099)
Finally finished watching Spectacular Spider-Man Season 2. This was even better than the first season. So many different episodes I liked in this season, like Sandman's, Liz's brother, and the final 2 episodes.
Now that I knocked that out of my backlog, time to go back on other series I need to watch... like actually completing Battle Tendency, despite being halfway done with that.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on May 07, 2014, 07:05:53 PM
Well, might as well wait a few more months since Hox is going to redo the translations of the first 6 volumes to make the translations more consistent throughout the entire series.
But other than you, I'd like to hear everyone else's excuse for not having enough time to check out the only series that I've recommended in years.
I'm a lazy shit.
I've been watching more Wolverine And The X-Men, including the Hulk episode yesterday. "Hulk...Hulk, behind...Hulk is not a behind!" :D
How many episodes does Wolverine and the X-Men have?
I think it's only 26. One season.
I hope that's right, tbh. I'm sick of Netflix having incomplete series.
Yeah, 26. There was going to be another season with the same amount of episodes, but that was quickly scrapped.
I watched the episode with Scott's flashbacks. Man, Wolverine was such an unabashed asshole. :D That part always gets me. He was all like, "Hey, I just sniffed your girlfriend". Interesting how he was a dick all the way up to Prof. and Jean disappearing. I almost forgot about that plot twist at the end.
It has just occurred or me that I've never seen much of anything Turtles related. I haven't read any comics, I only saw one of the live-action movies many years ago when I was a kid, I only saw a few episodes of the 80's cartoon show (which really isn't up my alley), and the same basically goes for the 2K3 series and the current one on Nick. Based on this, I decided to start watching the 2K3 series, partly because it seems to be a fan favorite, and also partly because I need to take a little break from anime at the moment. I'll see how long this show can hold my interest.
That should be interesting. If you want to watch anything else I highly suggest the first '80s movie. It's much closer to the comics only with some of the humor from the animated show.
ugh, anime break. you sound like avaitor. and brace yourself for the absolutely awful final season that has one of the dumbest deus ex machina moments ever.
Quote from: gunswordfist on August 27, 2014, 03:44:45 PMugh, anime break. you sound like avaitor. and brace yourself for the absolutely awful final season that has one of the dumbest deus ex machina moments ever.
Coming from someone who hardly ever watches any new anime?
I'm burned out on the medium, and it's not like the first time that's happened to someone around here.
As for TMNT, it still has the first 5 seasons which people seem to like, so I can't complain.
I'm 3 episodes in so far, and it's alright. A lot of cliche and corny dialogue going around, even though this isn't the 80's cartoon, but it's still also entertaining enough to keep me watching for now.
Yeah, you don't really need to see the last couple of seasons, from what I recall. Just the first 4 or 5 and Turtles Forever.
And I'm watching Black Lagoon while I post this. :P
good, you wised up unlike someone else. and i watch about half a dozen new anime.
Black Lagoon is my favorite new anime this season.
not sure if serious...
I am serious, just like how I got burned out from watching Breaking Bad a year ago because I couldn't stand watching bald people for long periods of time.
I finally caught up with the 2 seasons of Adventure Time that are on Netflix. I'll get to the rest eventually, elsewhere.
As for which series I should watch on the occasional down low from Net, I decided to flip a coin to see if I should rewatch Trigun or try Regular Show again. The coin picked RS. So I'll get to that soon. First, I'm watching something entirely different on there.
i want to see what you have to say about rs.
Hey, check this out! (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x25ia9g_bugs-bunny-show-rabbit-of-seville-scarlet-pumpernickel-stop-look-and-hasten_creation) A complete episode of the original Bugs Bunny Show, complete with wraparounds and even some ads!
Around the same time last year, Criterion announced that their first animated film to get their treatment on DVD/Blu would be Fantastic Mr. Fox, which came out the following February. Now they have announced that this Feb, their next animated release will be Watership Down.
Not a bad call at all! I really should give it another watch, myself.
I have a confession- I couldn't sit through The Lego Movie. I can't recall the last time I've been as annoyed with a film, but wow, did it do nothing for me.
I enjoyed it, personally. The humor is right up my alley.
Though, if we're talking about annoying films for kids, I can think of plenty, myself.
A big old list of what is coming and going from Netflix in this month and before. (https://collectingcartoons.wordpress.com/2015/03/03/new-expiring-netflix-instant-watch-streaming-animation-cartoons/)
The Secret of NIMH really is a great film, definitely worth a look if you haven't seen it in a while, or god forbid, never before! You won't be disappointed. I also feel the need to take this chance to finally see the Peabody & Sherman movie soon.
It's a shame that we're losing Brave & the Bold, though. I kept on telling myself that I'd get around to watching it all again, but it looks like I should consider the DVDs. But at least I can put getting the PPG set on hold, since it's all here now.
QuoteAdventure Time: Season 1-Â4
Batman Beyond: Season 1-3
Batman: The Brave and the Bold: Season 1-3
Ben 10: Season 1-Â3
Children's Hospital: Season 1Â-2
Codename: Kids Next Door: Season 4-Â6
Cow and Chicken: Season 2
Dexter's Laboratory: Season 3-Â4
Ed, Edd 'n' Eddy: Season 3-Â4
Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends: Season 2
Green Lantern: The Animated Series: Season 1
The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy: Season 3Â-4
Johnny Bravo: Season 2
Justice League: Season 1-2
Justice League Unlimited: Season 1-2
Regular Show: Season 1-Â4
Robot Chicken: Season 1Â-2
Samurai Jack: Season 2
The Venture Bros.: Season 1-2
Young Justice: Season 1
TB&TB season 1 and 2, YJ season 1, and JL season 1 are the only one of those we have up here.
Fuuuu...I wanted to watch half of those with my baby brother. He needs to be a Brave & The Bold fan!
So all the stuff I want to watch is expiring on the 30th? That gives my brother and me like 2 days to watch seasons of shows. :(
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 03, 2015, 03:03:32 PM
QuoteAdventure Time: Season 1-Â4
Batman Beyond: Season 1-3
Batman: The Brave and the Bold: Season 1-3
Ben 10: Season 1-Â3
Children's Hospital: Season 1Â-2
Codename: Kids Next Door: Season 4-Â6
Cow and Chicken: Season 2
Dexter's Laboratory: Season 3-Â4
Ed, Edd 'n' Eddy: Season 3-Â4
Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends: Season 2
Green Lantern: The Animated Series: Season 1
The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy: Season 3Â-4
Johnny Bravo: Season 2
Justice League: Season 1-2
Justice League Unlimited: Season 1-2
Regular Show: Season 1-Â4
Robot Chicken: Season 1Â-2
Samurai Jack: Season 2
The Venture Bros.: Season 1-2
Young Justice: Season 1
TB&TB season 1 and 2, YJ season 1, and JL season 1 are the only one of those we have up here.
Ok, I'm late but I'll be marathoning Batman Beyond and then Justice League/Unlimited. It's going to be a lot of episodes until the 30th :whuh: but I can do it! ;D
I finished Generator Rex the other day, which is also being removed on the 30th. I thought it was pretty enjoyable throughout, but it never really became better than a good show during its run.
Still, I can see why it's called the secret good Man of Action show, since Rex is generally likable and the humor isn't as ear-piercingly stupid like in Marvel's shows.
I was surprised Man Of Action was getting bashed during the Avengers thread because Rex was decent. I would marathon that show myself to also complete it but I doubt I have the time and the other shows I mentioned are much higher priority.
It's just too bad that their best show is by far their least known.
So true.
I watched the first 11 episodes of Justice League starting a few minutes after midnight. Hooking up my laptop to my 360 really has improved my Xbox's internet speed. Anyway, The first 3 episodes were better for me this time around while Paradise Lost, War World, In Blackest Knight and those Aqua Man episodes (ugh, didn't bother remembering their names) are still boring as fuck. I think the Aqua have made me hate any underwater parts in any animated series (seriously) and Paradise Lost somehow made me like Wonder Woman even less. So the world's strongest woman is..a mama's girl and absentminded. I can't even...Anyway, still glad that I watched them. I feel I need to watch all of the series to know how to really grade it.
Season one is a bit rough. But some of those later episodes helps it up. Also season 2 is sooo good.
And coincidentally, the next two episodes I watched are the first ones in the series that I like. Brave And The Bold part 1 and 2, that is. The Flash starts to really shine in the opening. As far as how the characters have been portrayed so far, he's my favorite. I love it when he teams up with John. Also, this episode is the first episode with who is now either one of my top 5 or 10 DCAU villains, Gorilla Grodd. I like him just as much as I do in Batman TBATB because of how serious his arrogance. A supervillain that thinks talking gorillas are the master race is just hilarious. :D Also, nice Planet Of The Apes reference drop by Salavar (sp?)
"The Brave and the Bold" is around when the first season was starting to come together for me. "Injustice for All" and "Legends" are my other season 1 favorites before the finale.
Oh, I have to write a paper for one of my classes soon, and my professor wants me to choose from a big list of films he has posted, preferably one that we haven't seen yet. One of the movies in there is Anastasia, which I have not seen since I was in single digits. And my professor is cool with me going in that direction.
So I'm deciding between that and the recent Dredd.
I still remember when I attempted to blog all of Justice League, but that crashed when I rewatched season one and went through over ten episodes of trash. Even after I got through that and was about to write about Legends, I just had no resolve left thanks to both college and disappointment at how bad some of those episodes were. One day, I might go back to continue it, but it's a low priority compared to other stuff I'm working on.
Quote from: Avaitor on March 27, 2015, 12:19:41 AM
"The Brave and the Bold" is around when the first season was starting to come together for me. "Injustice for All" and "Legends" are my other season 1 favorites before the finale.
Oh, I have to write a paper for one of my classes soon, and my professor wants me to choose from a big list of films he has posted, preferably one that we haven't seen yet. One of the movies in there is Anastasia, which I have not seen since I was in single digits. And my professor is cool with me going in that direction.
So I'm deciding between that and the recent Dredd.
Heh, I haven't seen Anastasia since I was in the single digits myself. Making me sound young. I've heard nothing but good things about the recent Judge Dredd.
I remember Spark saying Injustice For All was when the show really came together.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on March 27, 2015, 12:30:55 AM
I still remember when I attempted to blog all of Justice League, but that crashed when I rewatched season one and went through over ten episodes of trash. Even after I got through that and was about to write about Legends, I just had no resolve left thanks to both college and disappointment at how bad some of those episodes were. One day, I might go back to continue it, but it's a low priority compared to other stuff I'm working on.
I don't blame ya. :sly:
Quote from: gunswordfist on March 27, 2015, 01:10:55 AM
Quote from: Avaitor on March 27, 2015, 12:19:41 AM
"The Brave and the Bold" is around when the first season was starting to come together for me. "Injustice for All" and "Legends" are my other season 1 favorites before the finale.
Oh, I have to write a paper for one of my classes soon, and my professor wants me to choose from a big list of films he has posted, preferably one that we haven't seen yet. One of the movies in there is Anastasia, which I have not seen since I was in single digits. And my professor is cool with me going in that direction.
So I'm deciding between that and the recent Dredd.
Heh, I haven't seen Anastasia since I was in the single digits myself. Making me sound young. I've heard nothing but good things about the recent Judge Dredd.
I remember Spark saying Injustice For All was when the show really came together.
Yeah that was the episode where it felt like having the whole team together really mattered. A bunch of the first half of the season was just throwing stuff against a wall to make it work and a lot of it didn't.
People like to say how rocky B:TAS can be, but early into its run, the show was already doing "Two-Face" and "Heart of Ice", while Justice League was still making "War World" at its same point of time.
The show definitely recovered, but it shouldn't really be a surprise whenever I bring up how long it took me to become a fan. Even as a kid, the earliest batch did little for me.
Just finished Legends and watched Fury today. First off, I'm confused by this "better than working for Luthor talk" with Shade and Grundy saying they worked for Lex before and were defeated by the Justice League and Luthor showing up in Legends. I thought he showed up first in Injustice For All? Was Injustice For All originally supposed to be before both stories? Google says that they are the same number as they are on Netflix but I think the DVDs had IFA before Fury and Legends. I am so confused.
Anyway, Fury was alright and I liked Legends. I am always a sucker for stories that are much darker than they seem at first. Also, that "And on a Sunday too!" line kills me. :D :D
And I watched Injustice For All earlier. Only about 40 episodes to watch until Monday. :(
Looks like you won't get to the other stuff you wanted to watch after all. But at least you've gotten to where the series starts being consistently good now!
I'm making it to Regular Show, dammit! :oo:
But yeah, the show is has started to really hit its groove.
I finished Justice League season 1 early this morning. Before the season finale, I started with the Morgan Le Fay episodes some time before midnight and then Metamorphosis.
A Knight Of Shadows and Metamorphosis have a thing in common - they are not so good episodes that have a few funny parts. The part where Etrigan lectures the league while pacing back and forth and then Wonder slaps him hard was the best part. :D A Knight Of Shadows is an episode with a half decent villain (I kind of like Morgan Le Fay) and a decent hero that are put into a pretty boring plot. Also, the worse part is that they made Martian Manhunter look so bad. I honestly wonder if this episode made a lot of fans hate him. I really don't see anyone sympathizes with him in this one. Not the way they wrote it.
Metamorphosis..ugh. This almost seems like they animated something that should have been left on the cutting room floor. First they start out with the wacky looking villain. It's like watching another, worser show already. Then they realize Rex who is like the corniest character in the show. Arguably even moreso than anyone from Legends. At least why those guys are corny actually makes sense. You could tell the writers thought Maso was supposed to come off as cool. Then the rest of the episode consists of Superman, MM and GL jobbing to Metamorpho of all people, Superman has major PIS against monster Stagg (Kal is a genius scientist with Ice breath. It should have been an easy win here) and Stagg, Mason and GL all overreacted throughout. It's a pretty nutty episode and mostly not in a good way.
Thank God for Savage Time. I'm a sucker for time traveling superhero stories. The war gave all of the JL a lot to do, sans Batman (which makes sense since he'd have a stroke at the sight of a war) .
With season one complete, I would say that it has 9 good episodes out of 26 (The Brave And The Bold, Legends, Injustice For All, Savage Time 3 parter). Whoa..I expected the 2nd half to pick up but that didn't really happen. I'll start Season 2 in the next hour.
I watched Twilight and Tabula Rasa (just part 1) today. Hopefully season 2 will keep up this pace. :)
I don't recall a bad episode in the bunch, honestly.
;D
Only a Dream is one of my favorites.
I believe season 2 as a whole was just awesome. Might be the best season in all the DCAU.
Well, I'm sure I'll watch it next time Netflix gets Justice League. :srs:
Iron Giant rerelease!!!!!! (http://www.ew.com/article/2015/07/08/iron-giant-rerelease?hootPostID=7e5322efd14bae5c969abc2c8cff7d3c)
I hope we get it!
I need to rewatch that. I loved it back in the day.
From the Warner Archives, we're going to get the following in the next couple of months-
-The complete series of Atom Ant, with all of the original Secret Squirrel coming a month later
-The third season of The Brave & the Bold on Blu-Ray
-The complete series of JLU on Blu-Ray. The first 2 seasons of Justice League were released on Blu separately
-Twice Upon a Time on DVD
And on top of its theatrical rerelease, The Iron Giant is getting a spanking new Blu release as well, in retail I believe!
I found the first 3 seasons of Rocky & Bullwinkle for a pretty good price. I can't wait to dig into them! It's been too long.
Now that's a great pick up.
Huh, we don't have a Rocky & Bullwinkle thread here? I might have to fix that later.
But I watched the first few episodes before I headed back to my apartment. I'm leaving the sets at home, since it's more of a at home kind of show to watch. But I recently read Jay Ward's biography, and it's mentioned that he was very disappointed in how the animation from the Gamma studio came out for the first handful of episodes. And he's not really wrong to be disappointed, since it's pretty rough and full of errors. No one ever really watched the series for its cutting-edge animation, but yikes, sometimes it's literally dead in the water.
The writing itself is pretty fantastic, though. Already, they have the characters and plot down, and it's still fresh and smart to watch even today. I can't wait to hit the Bullwinkle puppet bits, since I've heard that these are pretty crazy.
Do you guys remember veemonjosh? He's been writing a series of articles about the history of television animation. (http://cartoonhistorian.hubpages.com/) It's pretty nice stuff to read, and easy to learn a thing or two from it.
I'd recommend checking these out if you're interested.
Sounds cool. I'll check it out.
While I was at home over the past few days, I got to finish season 1 of Rocky & Bullwinkle. It really is stunning that the series already got the characters down so well as to how they're remembered today. Rocky's the great straight man, smart enough to hold the field but is able to be perfectly silly to get laughs out of. And Bullwinkle is, well, Bullwinkle. There's nothing else like him. Together, they fit perfectly.
Jet Fuel Formula is pretty insane, a 40-part trip (that equates to 20 half-hour episodes, or 10 half-hour worths of content) that throws everything but the kitchen sink, but it all somehow fits well. It's a good introduction for the characters, and the aliens are among the more memorable side characters. Box Top Robbery is a much brisker affair, but contains enough clever twists and sharp writing to help end the season on a high note. It also helps that Boris and Natasha were being given better material, as well, even though they were hardly slouching in the previous arc.
The side shorts are always pretty fun, as well. The Mr. Know-It-All segments usually rank among my favorites, but really, I just love the core R&B gang enough to want to squeeze out every moment that I can with them. But catching a Peabody & Sherman or Fractured Fairy Tales at their sharpest always feels like a treat, too.
In other classic animation-related news, this Gumby set sounds amazing (http://blogs.indiewire.com/animationscoop/ncircle-to-release-the-gumby-show-the-complete-50s-series-on-dvd-20150819). It'll probably be one of those things that I say that I waned to own, but never end up getting. But it's been way too long since I've seen any of these gems.
R&B was one of my favorite shows when I was kid. Finding out it was so old and yet I couldn't tell at the time was mindblowing. That's one of the reasons I never bought the "kids only watch NEW shows" argument, because no one I knew ever skipped out on watching it. It was just great television. Still is, in my opinion.
While I'm at it, here are my top 10 animated series from 2015.
10. Regular Show
9. Star vs. the Forces of Evil
8. Adventure Time
7. Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
6. BoJack Horseman
5. One Punch Man
4. Archer
3. Clarence
2. Steven Universe
1. Rick and Morty
This is one of Archer's best seasons in years, but truthfully, while it still ranks higher on my all-time list, the top 3 were more exciting this year. I can't wait to see what they, and every other show from this list, has to offer in 2016!
As I've mentioned before, I've been trying to get back into cartoons recently. Here's a tab of some of what I've been watching. I won't bring up the shows currently airing that I'm keeping up with, since I can write about them as they air.
-I wanted to check out Class of 3000 again to see if it was legitimately better than the other CN originals from its time, or if I was just crazy. It turns out that even though it's far from the network's finest original, there is plenty to offer here. The animation is solid all around the board, and not just in its various musical sequences, which are full of clever experimentation. The show has a nice, watercolor-like vibe to it that makes it fun to look at, even at its dumber moments. But the show has a lot of good in its humor, with an almost anarchistic sense of comedic timing, and a willingness to let its characters expand upon the general tropes they started off to embellish early on. It also helps that each of their instruments helps to give the characters some ground to their personalities, like how Lil D playing drums is relevant to how reckless he can be, but that he's also able to be a well-meaning ringleader when needed. Or that Tamara's harp symbolizes that despite her rough exterior, she has a sweet, sharp edge to her. I give the show a thumbs up, and I'd consider buying a DVD release if it happened, although there are a good many series I'd like to collect or finish first.
-I miss when Home Movies would air on [as] on a regular basis, even though I did burn myself out on it at one point. Watching it again reminds me of why Metalocalypse and Bob's Burgers just don't much for me- Brenden Small and Loren Bouchard just couldn't possibly top this. Brenden, Jason, and Melissa are such enjoyable characters that are full of life, and they're wonderfully complimented by great adult characters (Coach McGuirk is easily H. Jon Benjamin's second best role. Jason might be his third), and equally well-written children. I think we all knew someone as annoying and spoiled as Fenton, or a duo as creepily close to each other as Walter and Perry at some point. The first season is a little slower and harder to watch due to its use of Squigglevision, but it's still a very promising start. I do think that it gets better as it goes along, though, with the last season pulling off some of the finest material. I do think that it ended at the right time, though, even if there was enough fuel in its tank for another year or two. The show was at its prime, and it would have been too much of a risk or shame to see it decline if they couldn't keep it going. And what a hell of a finale that the show ended with.
-I've had some interest in Initial D for a little while, since it's a popular entry in an anime genre that I'm not very familiar with. The first series shows its age a bit, with some tired tropes very much present, and an awkward hand-drawn/CG hybrid method, but it's a pleasant watch regardless, and gets pretty exciting with its racing, the latter half especially. I could take or leave his friends, but Takumi is a pretty good character, slightly stoic but with a good heart and enough passion to justify his increasing excellence at racing. I'm not sure if I feel an especially strong desire to watch the later series, though. I'm going to take a quick break from animation to watch either Fargo or You're the Worst, if not both, and afterwords, I'll try to decide if I keep up with Initial D, or go to an Outlaw Star rewatch next.
-And I've been rewatching Justice League here or there via my DVDs, and just finished the first season. I might make a post about this in its own thread, though.
Quote from: Avaitor on December 31, 2015, 10:22:35 PM
While I'm at it, here are my top 10 animated series from 2015.
10. Regular Show
9. Star vs. the Forces of Evil
8. Adventure Time
7. Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
6. BoJack Horseman
5. One Punch Man
4. Archer
3. Clarence
2. Steven Universe
1. Rick and Morty
This is one of Archer's best seasons in years, but truthfully, while it still ranks higher on my all-time list, the top 3 were more exciting this year. I can't wait to see what they, and every other show from this list, has to offer in 2016!
The OVAs or is a new season actually going to be made?
Quote from: gunswordfist on January 05, 2016, 07:55:55 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on December 31, 2015, 10:22:35 PM
While I'm at it, here are my top 10 animated series from 2015.
10. Regular Show
9. Star vs. the Forces of Evil
8. Adventure Time
7. Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
6. BoJack Horseman
5. One Punch Man
4. Archer
3. Clarence
2. Steven Universe
1. Rick and Morty
This is one of Archer's best seasons in years, but truthfully, while it still ranks higher on my all-time list, the top 3 were more exciting this year. I can't wait to see what they, and every other show from this list, has to offer in 2016!
The OVAs or is a new season actually going to be made?
OVAs.
I actually kind of forgot that OPM wasn't getting another season yet when I posted that, lol
lol It happens. I still hope they can somehow pull off bringing season 2 out for this year.
Oh, and I've also been watching The Flintstones on and off. I'm about halfway through the first season now, and while the series does show its age in various ways, some even uncomfortable (like a gross Chinese caricature, itself similar to one from previous Pixie and Dixie and Yogi Bear cartoons), there's still a good amount of the subversive wit and charm that made the series a hit in every demographic back in the day. It's pretty fun to sit back and watch an episode or two on a quiet, relaxing night.
Chinese caricature aside, doing the same sounds good to me. I ended up liking The Flintstones more the last time I regularly watched it.
I ordered the second Looney Tunes Platinum Collection release, and I didn't know that it came with a handful of MGM shorts. Some of Friz's work is there, but the really important thing is that about a dozen or so of Tex's shorts are on it!!!!! A handful of Droopy shorts, which are already on their own DVD set, but there's a good amount of his other work, such as "Red Hot Riding Hood", "Screwball Squirrel", and "King-Size Canary", among others.
This isn't the same as a set of his MGM work, but I'm happy enough. I wouldn't mind a DVD release of his material, if it came down to it.
Seeing Anomalisa, Kung Fu Panda 3, and Boy & the World in the span of a week has done wonders to prove that animation is alive and well.
So, everything else was running fine as I was getting to the JLU finale, until out of nowhere, "Alive!" craps out on me, and now the disc barely works anymore. When I was watching the previous episodes on my player last night, it ran fine, but now it decides to stop working! I even switched to my laptop, and nada.
I checked for a replacement disc, but it honestly looks cheaper to just get a new copy of the season at this point. And I can wait to do that, since I'm not exactly a fan of Luthor's Flanderization near the end of the show's run.
So I'm done with my Justice League rewatch. It's pretty inconsistent throughout, aside from the second season, which is about as close to perfect as a super hero show can get. Now, I think that I'll finally pull out my Hey Arnold! set!
Never could finish a Justice League playthrough myself. Good lord at the thought of trying to start over at from the beginning for the 3rd, 4th or 5th time.
You know, I never saw "Man's Best Friend", the banned Ren & Stimpy episode before, so I decided to finally fix this.
Yep, Ren very nearly kills George Liquor with an oar. Because that's supposed to be funny, I guess. But there isn't really that much that's funny in this episode. I do think that Ren & Stimpy can genuinely be a great show, but I think that this is proof that John K shouldn't have TOO much creative control, since he's kind of a sociopath. A funny sociopath, sometimes, but yikes.
I went 4 episodes deep in Young Justice Season 2. After I got over how frickin' terrible the dialogue was for the first 15 minutes, I really got into it.
Quote from: Avaitor on March 29, 2016, 10:31:56 PM
You know, I never saw "Man's Best Friend", the banned Ren & Stimpy episode before, so I decided to finally fix this.
Yep, Ren very nearly kills George Liquor with an oar. Because that's supposed to be funny, I guess. But there isn't really that much that's funny in this episode. I do think that Ren & Stimpy can genuinely be a great show, but I think that this is proof that John K shouldn't have TOO much creative control, since he's kind of a sociopath. A funny sociopath, sometimes, but yikes.
Yeah, I think I can recall touching on the subject of John K. once before about that very thing. When Spike TV wanted him to revive the series, they pretty much gave him all creative control. I can take a lot of messed up content, but this was ridiculous! :il_hahaha: The episode where Ren & Stimpy are living a spittoon.... holy shit! :pedro_nooo: The
ONLY cartoon that made me dry heave the first time I saw it.
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So I just finished the last episode of that candy themed anime Dagashi Kashi. It has nearly nothing of interesting plot or story... yet I watched it anyway. Have I really sunk so low as to watch something like this?? :lol: Well, I thought the characters were fun at least with some comedic appeal. And it was sort of educational about different Japanese candies. Really.
The mode is crashed! I actually liked the overuse of Bill & Ted's Adventure style lingo. :D I'm now up to episode 7. Also, episode 5 pretty much made me hate Wonder Girl before they even got to the mission. Batgirl's close.
Still disappointed that Impulse didn't get much focus and Tim Drake Robin got none. They were part of the original Young Justice team, it would have been nice for the nod here. Even X-Men Evo gave a nod to their original team.
I'm up to episode 13 or so of Invasion and I'm liking it. The show has been pretty intense for me and I'm liking seeing Static and Deathstroke. I understand that they want to give the younger superheroes more limelight but the complete absence of the Justice League is a bit much though.
Uh yeah, I'm enjoying Season 2 of Young Justice more than any arc from The Avengers. I don't understand why it got so many complaints. Season 1 is certainly better but still. I'm 20 episodes in and I kind of don't see how they can stretch this conflict into 6 more episodes, so there's that. I'll wait and see.
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 08, 2016, 01:26:59 AMUh yeah, I'm enjoying Season 2 of Young Justice more than any arc from The Avengers.
:il_rope:
A rushed story arc with too many characters and limited development for them in combination with more sub-plots that could have been cut does not equate to great material.
I'm saying this as a huge fan of Greg Weisman's work.
I remember season 2 being 20 episodes. Not 26. Is that not right?
Season 2 would have benefited with better pacing if it had the proper 26.
Finished the season. Pfftt, of course it was 20 episodes lol. Easier for me to think of why people would criticize it now. How everyone believed random aliens over the Justice League almost instantly, was insane. I thought Godfrey and Tseng were brainwashed and/or replaced with a clone but apparently not.
Then there's the Reach itself. I was confused as to who the leader was and how big of a leader they were until the show was almost over. I thought Black Beetle might have been the leader but he also came off as another soldier. Then they made it clear that wimpy Ambassador was his boss. I assumed he was the leader of all the Reach and not just the army on Earth. Hell, maybe he is. Idk. He wasn't really convincing as a major villain.
The Light did a good job of doing nothing but behind the scenes work. Nice plan but it's boring to watch. I expected much more from them seeing as they are a group of major villains instead of one leader and a bunch of henchmen like with Lex and Grodd's gangs in Justice League. Then you have Static being a mostly useless rookie despite him fighting 99% machines and Deathstroke was assigned to literally sit down for days and was taken down offscreen. Those two were the new additions I was the most excited about.
The last episode was pretty weak and felt rushed.
The dialogue was not that good a lot of the time and I cared for few characters outside of my favorites Black Beetle (despite his problems.), Red Volcano (it was good to see this snarky bastard again), Aqualad, Superboy, Blue Beetle, Arsenal and Impulse. Impulse really grew on me and Arsenal was a pleasant surprise. Plus him trying to kill Lex was probably my favorite action sequence.
With that said, I still really enjoyed this season and liked any episode I saw Peter David's name on it. It was the best animated undercover superhero story I've ever watched and was pretty entertaining for reasons I mentioned in other post.
Recently watched superhero cartoon rankings:
5. Avengers/Wolverine And The X-Men
4. Young Justice
3. Green Lantern
2. Justice League
1. Batman TBATB
Ek, Young Justice was definitely better than any Avengers arc. Especially ones like the Kang arc which was like 2 episodes and had a dull ending.
Peter David wrote the original Young Justice series, so that might account for it. Shame he didn't have any creative input in it.
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 08, 2016, 05:25:12 PM
Ek, Young Justice was definitely better than any Avengers arc. Especially ones like the Kang arc which was like 2 episodes and had a dull ending.
I stopped taking your opinions seriously back when you trashed great shows like The Spectacular Spider-Man and praised hot garbage like Legion of Super-Heroes. So, I basically consider you to be a joke poster at this point. No actual response to that is necessary.
Though I will at least say that while I do like Young Justice on the whole (it's one of my top 10 favorite superhero shows), I must say, I like how AEMH actually follows and respects its own source material. What a concept!
Also the Kang arc is three episodes. Way to show how little you actually know about a show that you're arguing against. Like I said: joke poster. :>
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 08, 2016, 05:56:34 PM
Peter David wrote the original Young Justice series, so that might account for it. Shame he didn't have any creative input in it.
That makes so much sense.
I am watching tom and jerry, what's about you my friends.
I've been watching my Hey Arnold! set from the beginning, and just finished season 2 the other night. I'm still enjoying it, but I was surprised how at the end of the season, Miss Slovak came back. Literally, no explanation or anything. I know that Mr. Simmons sticks around for the rest of the run, but it feels weird to be told that Miss Slovak left Arnold's class to pursue a career in golf, and come back out of nowhere.
Of course, I recognize that these are likely just episodes that aired out of order, but it's awkward. Did kids notice this when these aired for the first time? I'm pretty sure I was watching the show from the beginning, but I honestly couldn't tell you what my reactions were.
I was at FYE yesterday, and noticed something pretty cool- a new copy of the first season of Tom & Jerry Tales marked down to only $4. It even came in one of those CN 20th anniversary slipcovers they slapped onto some DVD releases around that time. I have enough of a spending problem, so I passed this time, but it's a pretty good show. Easily among the best thing to happen to the cat and mouse since Bill and Joe left MGM. It's toned down from their original shorts, and the animation and music aren't as impressive, but the sense of humor and even the passion are still there.
Did you guys ever see much of the show? It was among the last shows to be a part of Kids WB!, along with SSM and Legion of Super Heroes.
I didn't see that one, but I saw the new show currently airing. The first season flash animation was a bit rough, but the show was well done otherwise, and the second season looks a lot better.
Tom & Jerry is not a hard show to get right, so I imagine Tales is pretty good too.
I've only seen tiny bits of the new show, but I was a little turned off by its flash animation. If season 2 did drop it, then I'll probably give that a go.
I'm not sure if they dropped it, but it's a lot less noticeable than it was in season one. It's a lot less flat looking than it was before. too.
Tom & Jerry really shouldn't be so hard to do well, but few have come close to Bill and Joe's run. Even Chuck Jones, one of the all-time greats, made his run too similar to his Road Runner cartoons, which are more automated. This, for instance (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dOp8aL37dQ8), wouldn't make it into one of Jones' cartoons.
Mainly, I don't get why Warner is still making those T&J movies where they interact with various characters. They almost relegate Tom and Jerry to the background, which is a waste. That said, I still want to give the Jonny Quest one a watch at some point.
Speaking of cartoons that don't do much justice for the original, I've watched a little of What's New, Scooby-Doo, and I'm still not hot on it. The show represents how increasingly watered down the Scooby movies were getting at that point, making Zombie Island and Witches Ghost feel almost foreign. Warner's use of coloring was nice for the series, but the actual animation wasn't as sharp, nor was its use of the characters. I much prefer Mystery Incorporated.
So yeah, I finished Hey Arnold! the other night. Now that I've seen it all in full, I do think that the last season was a step back. Plots were becoming increasingly more recycled, and increasingly tiresome. We weren't really learning anything new about the characters anymore, and the last batch of voices for some of the kids didn't feel right.
That said, everything to do with Arnold's parents were fantastic, and leaves me really excited for The Jungle. I do wish that the set ended off with "The Journal", since the last few episodes feel especially anticlimatic. I mean, the last episode is a Maltese Falcon parody, and a fart joke. Seriously.
For my nighttime series, I was going to give the new Voltron a go... but then I remembered that BoJack Horseman's third season just came up, so that takes top priority. Once I'm done with both of those, I think that I'll give NGE a rewatch.
Thanks to MTV Classic, I just watched an episode of Aeon Flux. And I got l lost very quickly. Plus, this show is just weird. Reporters are naked, the main character is almost naked, she makes out with like everyone, the plot was crazy strange. I might watch another one or two, but this was definitely something weird.
Hopefully, Clone High and The Maxx are more interesting and less confusing.
The Maxx is extremely confusing.
I was talking about watching some Mystery Incorporated again, and what do you know, I scored a good deal on eBay and got the first season for pretty cheap! I'll give a couple of episodes a watch later.
Sadly, I can't really afford to get season 2 as well, unless I find an even bigger deal. But this is how I like my Scooby.
Hey, so what cartoons are people watching lately?
As of late, I've only really been keeping up with the CN shows and some of Toonami (mainly just Jojo, Gundam, and HXH, but only the middle is new to me and I'll sometimes leave it on early for DB Kai), and occasionally putting an episode of Courage on before I go to bed. I only have a couple of episodes left before I'm done, and I can't reiterate how happy I am to have the whole series on DVD.
FIM, Wabbit, and Milo Murphy, are all I'm really keeping up with. Been re-watching some Courage and Dexter, though.
Only keeping up with South Park, JoJo's, and Dragon Ball Super at the moment. Once the former finish their seasons and the latter finishes its current arc I'll probably take a hiatus from watching stuff until school's out and I've graduated.
Hit them books hard, Lum! I watch Jojo Part 1 on CR whenever CN shows an episode, new Jojo Part 4 and a The Boondocks Season 1 episode every blue moon. I want to find a kid's comedy to watch but Netflix has slim pickings when it comes to the big 3.
Hulu may be a better investment in that regard, since they have some Nick and Cartoon Network shows. Their CN shows include most of their newer stuff, Dexter's Lab, and Samurai Jack.
Plus, their kids shows are ad-free.
I no longer have Hulu.
I've been keeping up with South Park, JoJo's, Dragon Ball Super, and Yuri on Ice so far, as well as the English dub of HXH on Toonami.
I occasionally watch episodes of Gintama, and plan to play catch-up with Archer soon.
Currently South Park is my favorite of these shows airing, much like last season, and I feel that it's going through another set of golden years like it did back during seasons 3-8 when nearly every episode was a hit. The continuous story-line structure actually suits the show surprisingly well, and I give Trey and Matt props for trying something new and risky like this so late into the show's production when an episodic formula would have been safer and easier to stick with.
JJBA is of course as fun of a show as ever, and Dragon Ball Super has improved massively from its incredibly bad start with the current storyline being the best thing to come out of the franchise since the original manga ended its run. It's still heavily flawed, to be sure, but as a hardcore fan I still find a lot to like here. It makes me hopeful for the future of this franchise, more than anything else.
Oh yeah, if we're putting anime down then I would also be watching DB Super (until this arc is done), JoJo, Saiki K, and Haikyu. Since they'll all be done soon, I probably won't be watching any soon enough.
I wanted to see what you guys were up to, since I haven't had a whole lot of time to watch much either. I'm even seriously behind on the live-action shows I keep up with (the CW DC shows and Ash vs. Evil Dead). I feel bad about not keeping up with as much as I used to, but time and energy has seriously become an issue.
I will start Super once I get my hands on Battle Of The Gods and Resurrection Of F. I don't know what I will do for new shows after that. Part 4 is pretty much it for me.
Quote from: gunswordfist on November 06, 2016, 12:41:55 PM
I will start Super once I get my hands on Battle Of The Gods and Resurrection Of F. I don't know what I will do for new shows after that. Part 4 is pretty much it for me.
If you're getting into Super, watch the two movies and then skip to episode 28 of the show, which picks up where Resurrection F left off. Everything before that is just a lesser and drawn out retelling of the movies, so you aren't missing anything worthwhile.
Check out the lucky motherfucker who got season 1 of Dragon Ball at WalMart this weekend!
They also have FLCL and the first One Piece volume, and I almost picked up the latter, since I was thinking of giving it another shot. But DB is top priority.
Pretty much all of my Black Friday scores were animated, between WalMart and Best Buy-
-The first 2 Kung-Fu Panda movies on Blu for $4 each
-Season 6 of Archer for $7
-The Tom & Jerry/Jonny Quest movie for $2
-And a Cartoon Cartoons shirt for $10 at Hot Topic
I could get KFP 3 for $9, and more Archer seasons for the same price, but I'll save those for another time. And I was disappointed to not find The Good Dinosaur for a good price. Still, can't complain about what I got.
Quote from: Avaitor on November 25, 2016, 10:08:15 PMCheck out the lucky motherfucker who got season 1 of Dragon Ball at WalMart this weekend!
They also have FLCL and the first One Piece volume, and I almost picked up the latter, since I was thinking of giving it another shot. But DB is top priority.
Pretty much all of my Black Friday scores were animated, between WalMart and Best Buy-
-The first 2 Kung-Fu Panda movies on Blu for $4 each
-Season 6 of Archer for $7
-The Tom & Jerry/Jonny Quest movie for $2
-And a Cartoon Cartoons shirt for $10 at Hot Topic
I could get KFP 3 for $9, and more Archer seasons for the same price, but I'll save those for another time. And I was disappointed to not find The Good Dinosaur for a good price. Still, can't complain about what I got.
Nice! :thumbup:
Though in retrospect, I feel like I got jipped for buying season six of Archer myself at roughly three times the price of what you paid for it. :imnothappy:
I've been meaning to collect the Blue Brick DB sets at some point in time. I'd also collect DBZ, but I don't want those notoriously bad Orange Brick sets due to the cropping, and the Dragon Boxes are fairly hard to come by these days, and incredibly expensive to boot.
As for One Piece, you'd probably be better off with the manga, anyways. The anime is well-done early on and I'd say that it's a pretty decent adaptation of the manga for roughly the first 200 episodes or so, but then Toei's practices get ridiculous from that point on and the pacing goes to complete shit. I will say that I really do enjoy OP's Japanese voice cast, and FUNimation's English dub is really well done and has a lot of effort and respect for the series put into it. The OST is also really strong, IMO. But ultimately, aside from a few key episodes here and there, most of the anime is pretty atrocious from the CP9 saga and onward due to poor scheduling on Toei's part, leading to many rushed episodes of poor quality in terms of both animation and direction.
The manga on the other hand has none of these problems, and the 3-in-1 omnibi additions are very cheap and affordable so long as you don't mind the paper being made out of somewhat cheaper material. Either that or you could just as easily read One Piece online.
Yeah, I think I'll just get around to reading OP then, probably just online when I get the chance. I'll check our other WalMart later to see if I can find more DB blue boxes or more anime that's on sale tomorrow.
Andrea Romano is retiring. (https://dotandline.net/andrea-romano-interview-retirement-batman-animaniacs-8342d8a6442#.zcvgcq6vz)
I find it funny to see The Boondocks listed as a children's cartoon, but this is otherwise a decent article. None of these works would have been the same without her voice direction.
Such an underappreciate job. She was my favorite.
I'm watching the EEnE Christmas special (because of course I am), and it always blows me away how good the sound is to the show. Not just the eclectic, jazzy soundtrack, but the sound editing is really clever. There's a bunch of things that the show should have won awards for, and that's one of them.
This is still a pretty good special, too. I like the notion that Eddy just gets clothes for Christmas. It's better than coal, but nothing kids want. It's basically Santa purgatory.
This year's nominations for Best Animated Feature are:
Animated Feature
Kubo
Moana
My Life As A Zucchini
The Red Turtle
Zootopia
I'm happy to see Finding Dory shut out- a weak sequel to an overhyped original, as far as I'm concerned. The Red Turtle is the only one I haven't seen here, but it's on my list. The other four are fantastic.
I'm kind of surprised that Your Name didn't get nominated, especially since it's now the best selling anime film of all time. While I'm not a fan of Zootopia, I enjoyed/heard great things about the other four nominees (Kubo was easily my favorite animated film last year).
I can understand why Your Name didn't get the nod. Of the two not-widely released films, The Red Turtle is a co-production of Ghibli, which is a far bigger name here than Shinkai, while My Life as a Zucchini is being distributed by G-Kids, who have a solid idea of how to market to Academy members, while Funi is still kind of new to this game.
I feel that if they waited to try the film this year (especially since I believe that it's getting a wider release soon), it could have been more likely to get nominated. From the mainstream studios, it's looking like a light year. WDAS is taking the year off for Pixar to do 2 films, one of which is Cars 3, Dreamworks doesn't seem to have anything of note, Laika do releases every other year or so, and Blue Sky and Illumination aren't even worth bringing up IMO.
I'm also sad that Funi gave up on trying to nominate The Boy and the Beast the moment they got the rights to Your Name. I don't think it would have had much more of a chance to be nominated, but it deserved better.
Ah well, in other news, I have the next few series that I plan to watch planned out.
Mobile Police Patlabor + Movie 1
Chowder
Patlabor Movie 2
Yuri on Ice
Patlabor Movie 3 + Minipato
Initial D Second Stage + Third Stage
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure Parts 3 & 4
Lupin III: Episode 0 + The Legend of Fujiko Mine
Blood Blockade Battlefront
I've been wanting to check out Patlabor for a while, since I like the concept and I've been slacking on mecha as of late. From what I understand about the franchise, it looks like the OVA + trilogy universe is more appealing to me than the series + second OVA timeline, so I'll do that first. Depending on how I feel, I might give the other timeline a go at some point.
After finishing Harvey Beaks, I'm curious to pinpoint exactly what went wrong with Chowder, and to find if there's any gold that I miss, since I only saw a handful of the post-season 1 stuff. I kind of doubt it, but I'm still kind of curious.
I've been hearing great things about Yuri on Ice for a little while now, and as typically late as I am to the party, I want to give it a spin and see if it lives up to the hype. I also want to give more sports anime/manga a try, so this might a good primer before I go back to reading the Slam Dunk manga and try other things.
I am familiar with Initial D, though, as I saw and liked the first act a while ago. I felt like I could hold off on the rest for a while, but I think it's time to get to the next part. The second act is pretty short, and the third is a movie, so I can easily give those a go.
I'm still slacking on Jojo, and even though it'll take me a while to get here, I might still have some time before the next part starts up.
I think you guys remember that I gave Lupin a full second shot last year, as I watched his first 3 seasons in full and saw some of his movies. I was planning to watch the entire franchise in full, but it's not as easy to find all of the specials in good quality, and it doesn't sound like I'm missing too much for them. But I kind of stopped going through the franchise as I gave up on those, so I plan to fix that. Depending on how I feel, in fact, I might just do Part IV after that. Unless Toonami gets it, at least.
And I've been wanting to do BBB for a while, and I plan to before season 2, if not before the year is over.
I really did enjoy Yuri on Ice, but I also feel that people kind of overhype it to the point of being a bit irritating, and mainly because of its appeal to the LGBT community, even though the homosexual romance is clearly not the main focus of the story.
As for me, my favorite anime of 2016 is pretty much a tie between SGRS and U&T, followed closely behind by the likes of My Hero Academia, Mob Psycho 100, and JoJo's Bizarre Adventure Part IV: Diamond is Unbreakable.
As for Re: Zero, my opinion has kind of soured on it over time. I enjoyed ERASED, but the show definitely has its flaws, even though I think people are way too overly critical of the second half of the series.
And aside from a few other ongoing shonen series like Dragon Ball Super and Haikyuu!, that's really about most of what I actually completed from last year. My time to watch anime is extremely limited these days.
Mob Psycho 100, Sakamoto desu ga, and Diamond is Unbreakable were definitely highlights of this year. Re:Zero was cool on the first watch, but thinking about it, it played so many of the "Japanese guy goes to a fantasy world" story devices as painfully straight as the many it breaks open. I had some hope for 91 Days, but it didn't really do much for me after establishing its plot (it also killed off my favorite character too early on).
Divine Gate, Mayoiga, Big Order, and Occultic;Nine were my "this is so fucking stupid but I can't stop watching because it's hilarious" watches of the year. And I should get to watching BBB some day. I heard the dub was pretty good, especially for a simuldub.
I'm still pretty behind on anime. U&T is the only series I caught from last year, which is great.
A lot of the series you guys have named are ones I've been meaning to get to, and I'll try to soon.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on January 27, 2017, 09:30:49 PM
Mob Psycho 100, Sakamoto desu ga, and Diamond is Unbreakable were definitely highlights of this year. Re:Zero was cool on the first watch, but thinking about it, it played so many of the "Japanese guy goes to a fantasy world" story devices as painfully straight as the many it breaks open. I had some hope for 91 Days, but it didn't really do much for me after establishing its plot (it also killed off my favorite character too early on).
Divine Gate, Mayoiga, Big Order, and Occultic;Nine were my "this is so fucking stupid but I can't stop watching because it's hilarious" watches of the year. And I should get to watching BBB some day. I heard the dub was pretty good, especially for a simuldub.
Well, FUNi's simuldubs have been pretty high quality in general, since in order for a series to get the simuldub treatment in the first place, FUNi would have to be banking on it to be a big success in the West from the start. Space Dandy and My Hero Academia also have excellent simulcast dubs, IMO.
So Kubo could very possibly win the Oscar now. Between its nomination for its visual effects, to how it won the VFX and BAFTA, both of which are good indicators of Oscar winners, it's looking like a serious possibility. Which means that the old rule that Academy voters go for whatever movie their kid liked most may not be happening this year.
Oh shit, Netflix just added a bunch of Real Ghostbusters episodes! Not every single one, but over 100.
Nice! I missed out on this show, so this is a good chance for me to finally check it out.
So they're changing the rules for the Best Animated Feature Oscar (http://www.avclub.com/article/oscars-no-longer-trust-animators-alone-know-good-a-253411), and I'm pretty livid.
Obviously, it was a hard bet to expect most of the lesser-known films to win the award, but it's nice to see good, if more obscure films like My Life as a Zucchini get nominated than crap like The Secret Life of Pets, which is ensured a nod now. It ups their agenda and gives people a chance to find them. But now that's just a moot point.
/co/ had a tournament to figure out what was the best cartoon. There were the results.
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FiJHjPdj.jpg&hash=0ed681b092318dbacf30b1a570249f4b6f520a33)
I ain't mad!
Samurai Jack is a better cartoon that Avatar. Prove me wrong!
TB&TB losing to Teen Titans.
:thinkin:
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 01, 2017, 07:06:01 PM
TB&TB losing to Teen Titans.
:thinkin:
It should have won the whole thing
I'm confused too. /co/ quite enjoys Brave and the Bold from what I've seen.
I feel like the only person in my age group who can't gel with even pre-movie SpongeBob. Every so often, I try to watch a classic episode and I still don't end up laughing.
Also, I'm surprised, but pleased, to see EEnE beat Powerpuff.
Spongebob has some great standout moments and really lovable voice acting, but it's never been a show I've particularly cared about. I watched it back in the day because it was on but I'd never consider purposefully revisiting it or buying the DVDs.
Happy to see Courage almost made it to the end! Now there's a show I want to get on video someday, though it's annoying that they didn't include the pilot on any of the releases...
Surprised by how far Rick and Morty went. I thought /co/ despised the show thanks to the fanbase and April Fools delaying a Jack episode, especially considering Steven Universe couldn't even make it past round 2.
The fine people on /co/ made a Suffering chart for various cartoon and comic characters.
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I've been rewatching Chowder for the past month or so, and I'm finishing it now. Looking at it now after some distance, and after finally seeing every episode, I think that the show started to take a turn for the worst partway through season 2, a little before the halfway point. One of the big drawbacks is when the show just stopped caring about the distinction between Mung Daal being Chowder's apprentice and just started making him and Truffles his parents. The writing started to increasingly to go off the walls and build on the show's worst traits (loudness, grossness, overextending gags) rather than its best.
But for a while, it really was a funny little show, and would have been great for kids if it caught on a little more. And it's funny, a lot of us were hoping this would be a step in the right direction for Cartoon Network, after a couple of years of mediocre originals. But the show got lost in the CN Real shuffle, and doesn't really seem to fit in with the current crop of CN shows. It's still a good show, but feels a little out of touch.
I think I've mentioned before that I've been watching The Flintstones on and off for a while now, putting an episode or two on at night if I'm having trouble falling asleep. It works really well for that, as it's soothing to hear these voices and music cues I've been familiar with all my life before I knock out, and it's still pretty funny too. Definitely a product of its time though, and the last two seasons get increasingly gimmicky and skew a bit younger. Not that the show was very adult, but part of its charm early on was that it felt a little more mature than its contemporary series at the time, even among other live-action sitcoms. The first 4 seasons are genuinely good stuff, and the core characters are rightfully iconic. I'm glad to have the complete series set, and that I got to experience the show in full.
I think the next series I'm going to use for this method is The Brave & the Bold. I ordered the first season a few weeks ago (albeit the half sets, since it was cheaper to get them that way, but I think that I'll order season 2 in full), and I've been wanting to get to it again since. I'll pop the first disc in soon.
TB&TB is an excellent show to sit down and unwind to. It's just so enjoyable on every level. It takes a few episodes before they begin to take their own concept seriously, the first few episodes feel a bit too tongue in cheek and openly self aware for my liking, but it quickly hits its groove after them.
I just started this anime called Renkin San-Kyuu Magical? Pokaan.
It's really cute and random so far!
Anyone ever hear of it? http://animationrevelation.com/forum/Smileys/default/ehail.gif
Magipoka is hilarious! Episode #11 is one of the funniest anime episodes ever and by far the greatest use of "engrish" in anime there's ever been. :D
I've been rewatching Eek! The Cat lately since I got the bootleg complete series box set at Boston Comic Con. It's been a while since I have seen it prior to yesterday. I am really enjoying it a lot. Honestly, it holds up better than most 90s cartoons. In my opinion, The best years of Fox Kids were some of the best content ever in 90s Kids Television. The show is very funny, has a lovable main character, and has good references/parodies. And the slapstick is the best I have ever seen outside of Warner Bros. Animation. Kumbaya is one of the best catchphrases and the plots are enjoyable. I have watched 5 episodes so far and it's actually better than I remember it being. I remember really liking the show, but watching it now, I love it to death. I wouldn't say it's as good as other Fox Kids classics (Animaniacs, Batman, Tiny Toons), but it's really good. I feel like this show is very underrated nowadays. It was one of the most popular Fox Kids shows back then, but since it left Fox Kids in 1997, it has faded into obscurity, while shows like Animaniacs and Batman still are beloved and acclaimed today. I know that, since Connecticon had an Animaniacs Sing-A-Long and Jess Harnell was at Boston Comic Con and a lot of people asked him Animaniacs questions. Not to mention that Animaniacs and Batman are still beloved to this day. Eek! on the other hand isn't, which is kind of sad. It's a brilliant cartoon that deserves at least some attention. I would even go as far as to say that it is in my top 15 best cartoons of the 90s that I have seen. Maybe even the top 10. It's that good!
Now if only this show would come to Netflix. That would be awesome and maybe even cause a resurgance in popularity. Just wishful thinking though seeing as how Disney currently owns it and has been sitting on it since they got it in 2001
I have also been rewatching Batman: The Animated Series with my dad lately. Brilliant show. One of the best animated shows period. I also have been rewatching Animaniacs on Netflix. Fantastic comedy
Good choices! I need to try and finish a rewatch of Batman for the millionth time.
I remember really enjoying Eek, but yeah, it seems like the series has faded away from public consciousness in recent years. Although at the trivia nights I've been going to lately, we had a question about it during a Fox cartoons round (it was mostly about their adult animation, although they used The Tick's theme song as a "name the theme song" question), which surprised me. I'd like to check it out again some day.
And B:TAS sure is great. I plan to rewatch that after I'm done with my BtVS rewatch, which should be happening soon after I find wherever I put my last season set during this move.
The past few days, I have been rewatching Animaniacs on Netflix and I still love that show so much. It's one of my favorite comedies of all time.
Also rewatched an episode of The Super Mario Bros. Super Show on Netflix. It's corny and cheesy, but honestly. That's why I love it. I tend to love shows that are corny and cheesy and Mario is one of my favorites when it comes to that. I wouldn't say it's good, but it's definitely enjoyable if you're into that kind of stuff in my opinion.
I'm also rewatching Hey Arnold! to get ready for The Jungle Movie. When it comes to Nickelodeon shows, this and SpongeBob are the ones I keep going back to. The show still holds up very well. I'm watching a half hour of the show a day and I started Monday. In my opinion, the show got better as the years went on, but the first season is still very good. When it comes to 90s Nickelodeon shows, this and Rocko are the two I instantly think of when it comes to Nicktoons that have aged really well.
Also was watching some Fox Kids shows earlier today, because I had the urge to. I watched Bobby's World, Power Rangers, Digimon, X-Men, and Spider-Man.
Looking back, Bobby's World was pretty simple, but pleasant and enjoyable. I had a smile on my face when rewatching it. Not amazing, but like I said, pleasant and enjoyable. Also, Uncle Ted was a great character. Time for some noogies
Power Rangers doesn't really hold up that well, as it's pretty corny and cheesy. Not to mention, way too over the top at times. However, I enjoy it because of that. Just like the Mario cartoon
X-Men and Spider-Man are fun action cartoon. I wouldn't say they hold up as well as Batman: The Animated Series, but they are still solid shows that tell solid stories with likable characters.
I could barely sit through Digimon though. I never liked that show honestly. No offense to the people that grew up with the show and enjoyed it though. It's just not my thing.
I mentioned before that I have The Brave and the Bold as a last-minute show, something I watch before I go to sleep and don't want to overbinge on my night time shows, so I generally only watch an episode or two at a time. Well, I ended up watching the back half of season 1 over the course of a couple of nights. :sweat:
It's really a good show though, and finds its footing pretty quickly. I love how it has fun with silver age traditions, while it isn't too mean about anything. There's love and a respectful amount of self-awareness going on. I can't say that I love every episode (I always found the Music Meister episode underwhelming, and I still do), but at its best, there's so much to love.
But TBATB only places second for me when it comes to Batman series. I also started my rewatch of B:TAS last night. None of the first few episodes are perfect, but I do feel that Timm, Dini and co find a good balance even at the very beginning. The show takes itself seriously, but has a solid sense of humor to boot, and I like the origin stories for the Scarecrow and Poison Ivy. Yet it's going to take a couple more times to find the right spirit for the Joker.
TB&TB succeeds when it stops being self-conscious and embraces and uses the Silver Age style to its fullest. It does that surprisingly early in its run.
Still disappointed that they ended it at 65 episodes. There was plenty more they could have done.
I found a rare, never-before-seen picture of the Totally Spies creators.
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I've been watching a lot of Cuphead gameplay, and it's gotten me a little interested in Fleischer cartoons and which specific shorts inspired the bosses. (https://youtu.be/FSm07stzHZQ)
I didn't ask for too much this birthday, as a combination of getting older and having a trip to Europe to look forward to in a couple of weeks. But I did ask for one set from my mom- Porky Pig 101. I've put a few shorts in, and while I can see why some fans are annoyed with a couple of the restorations, I'll give Warner the benefit of the doubt, since this is the first big classic cartoon set they've done in a while. I'm really happy that it's made, and I have a great outlet to watch some of these wonderful shorts again.
On top of that, my girlfriend surprised me with a DVD of A Goofy Movie. I'm surprised that this hasn't been upgraded yet, but apparently it's not even in HD yet- the El Capitan Theatre recently showed it, and used said DVD! It's especially surprising since the movie seems to be on an upswing in popularity right now. I'm seeing a lot of Powerline shirts, and at least in this area, it's becoming a popular Halloween costume to be Roxanne with Max or Stacy. It makes sense, since the 90's are really in right now, and this is SUCH a 90's movie.
It's also a good one. The jokes still land, and the characters are still fun. Even Paulie Shore is solid as Bobby. We also enjoyed the Goof Troop episode included in it. Although it reminded me that if the movies were missing anything, it's Peg and Pistol.
I was thinking, when was the last time we had a major controversy or media outrage regarding a cartoon's content? Like back in the 90s when parents or religious groups got mad at Simpsons, South Park, Beavis and Butthead, and whatever? Something so big that newspapers and magazines had to report it?
I didn't even know about this until recently so I wouldn't call it a "big" controversy, but The Loud House apparently sparked some backlash from conservative groups for having an openly gay couple who're parents to Lincoln's best friend be recurring characters.
It's been something I've had on my mind for the past two days, how the media no longer bats an eyelash at cartoons, books, videos, or whatever. How we don't get one of Pat Robertson's friends making an hour-long documentary detailing why insert-show-here is actually a mark of the devil, or congressmen badly mispronouncing a cartoon's name when discussing how it's tormenting the youth. Whenever someone gets angry over a cartoon's content, it's usually from some easily irritable kid on social media instead of a modern-day Jerry Falwell or Mary Whitehouse, and I'm not sure what to think about that. Is it a sign that animation's given more freedom than it ever has before, or an indication that it and other forms of entertainment have become complacent and no longer shock or challenge moral guardians?
Cartoon controversies usually just go to die on social media these dies.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on October 23, 2017, 11:54:50 AM
It's been something I've had on my mind for the past two days, how the media no longer bats an eyelash at cartoons, books, videos, or whatever. How we don't get one of Pat Robertson's friends making an hour-long documentary detailing why insert-show-here is actually a mark of the devil, or congressmen badly mispronouncing a cartoon's name when discussing how it's tormenting the youth. Whenever someone gets angry over a cartoon's content, it's usually from some easily irritable kid on social media instead of a modern-day Jerry Falwell or Mary Whitehouse, and I'm not sure what to think about that. Is it a sign that animation's given more freedom than it ever has before, or an indication that it and other forms of entertainment have become complacent and no longer shock or challenge moral guardians?
I think it's complacency on the part of moral guardians themselves. I think cartoons, especially those for kids, are still pushing the boundaries of the stories and subject matter they can tackle, but after the likes of
South Park and [adult swim], there's really little left that can shock the media watchdogs.
Hopefully more pushing cartoons in the right direction and less South Park shit.
I just thought about something- does anyone actually watch Squidbillies?
It's been on for about as long as Aqua Teen had its original run, but it doesn't seem to garner any kind of response other than "oh, that's a thing?"
I think it's because Mike Lazzo personally likes it even if nobody else does. Same reason why he greenlit that alt-right show (https://youtu.be/k06lLDDe-b4) last year.
I'm at the last couple of Batman: TAS episodes, and let me just say that it's still the best of its kind. Granted, the bad episodes are still bad, but while I feel that Justice League shows slightly more wear as the years go by, that first Batman run is incomparable. TNBA is iffy, but I think they were starting to get back into a groove with the last disc's worth of episodes. I kind of would like to have gotten another season or two of this, especially if "Beware the Creeper" is any indication of where it could have gone, but I'm ultimately fine with it ending so we could get Batman Beyond.
Next up- Samurai Jack. I've been wanting to give it a proper rewatch after getting the return, which will also be getting a second viewing from me.
Art Clokey's son has passed (https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/joe-clokey-dead-son-gumby-creator-art-clokey-was-56-1107693).
He was in charge of maintaining the Gumby brand, and helped with the recent restorations. It looks like his wife will be in charge of Gumby now.
Rest in peace, Joe Clokey.
Batman Ninja
I do regret buying it on dvd because it's only worth watching once. That being said I do think it was good for what it was. If you're going into it for your average Batman story I think you'll be very disappointed. I was going into it with an "action" mindset and while it's there I was unsatisfied mainly because you have Batman's crew (full of the boys) and only Batman is the one who got to shine. There is no way you have Red Hood and Deathstroke in the same movie and not have them throw down. I get it. This is Batman (he should have all the shine), and this is why I don't care much for Batman in general like most people. The action itself is over the top. Almost like some sort of parody and I think that's where it sort of lost me at. The majority of the action should've stayed as sword vs sword.
I doubt I'd buy another anime version of our heroes.
I liked bits and pieces of Batman Ninja. I got what I expected, a Batman anime written by the Gurren Lagann/Kill la Kill writer and directed by the guy who did the first handful of Jojo openings. It succeeded in that regard, and I had fun watching scenes like the giant Batman made out of bats, but there are issues like villains who seem like they're there only because of some quota and not because the writer had an interesting idea for them (like Ivy, Slade, and Penguin). And Damian forming a bond with the magic monkeys was goofy. I know he does something like that in the comics, but that doesn't make it less silly.
It's a tad better than most anime takes on Western licensed superheroes, but it still suffers from a lot of the same issues that make these sorts of features feel so sub-par, namely that the characters in question are pretty passionless and bare-bone representations of who they are in the source material. It's more of a style over substance affair. With Batman Ninja, it was enough style to keep it decent enough for a single watch, at least, but honestly I've been pretty exhausted with DC's DTV output for years now, and this is no exception.
It's a little funny they got someone named Roger Smith to star in a Batman anime though.
I've had some off time in the past few days, so I've been finally giving that Three Caballeros show a watch.
What I think is really interesting is that this is basically the anti-DuckTales in every way, shape, and form. You can tell the showrunners are doing everything they can to ignore Carl Barks to give us a Donald more influenced by his shorts and even other comic writers. As much as I admire Barks, I kind of like it, since it's different. Without the nephews, Donald gets to have a little more of a temper, while his good side is shown more with his dedication to his friends. The art style looks more classical, but at the same time, the animation isn't very fluid. Its stockiness reminds me of the recent Tom & Jerry show. And I like that the show uses professional voice actors, as opposed to NuTales focusing on hiring actors from cult shows.
Besides the iffy animation, my biggest complaint is that Jose and Panchito aren't the best-defined characters thus far. You could just as easily take them out to focus on Donald and lose nothing, aside Xandra talking about how they need to work as a team. I hope this improves soon.
It felt like the showrunners were trying to do Jackie Chan Adventures starring Donald Duck. Sheldgoose and Feldrake had that dynamic Valmont and Shendu had, for instance.
Quoteas opposed to NuTales focusing on hiring actors from cult shows.
It creates this tonal dissonance for me. Hearing all these guys like Bobby Moynihan, David Tennant, and Abed talk in their regular voices, but then Donald occasionally shows up with his usual Tony Anselmo voice. It makes Donald feel a little out of place in this show. Not helped by his dwindling appearances in favor of Webby.
Ive recently been rewatching some of "The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh" recently, since I am excited for the new Christopher Robin movie. I used to watch it all the time in the 2000s through the VHS Tapes and the reruns on Disney Channel's Playhouse Disney block.
I think its still a great show that holds up well even today. The characters are lovable with all of them having their own fun lines and moments, the show can get somewhat dark and intense at times for a Winnie the Pooh show (Its not that dark, but there is danger in the series), and it can be emotional at times like the episodes with Kessie the Blue Jay. I also love how its a 2D Animated Pooh show and that its the closest a Pooh show ever got to the classic featurettes. Also, the theme song is amazing. My favorite character is Piglet, since like him, I get anxious and nervous. He also has some fun episodes like the one where he plays with his shadow and the pigmy piglets one. Its a show I am glad to have grown up with and one of the few 80s shows that I can say is a favorite of mine. If I ever made a list of my favorite shows, this is easily going in there. Between Welcome to Pooh Corner, The New Adventures of Winnie the Pooh, The Book of Pooh, and My Friends Tigger and Pooh, New Adventures is easily my favorite (Though Book of Pooh was very good and I kind of like Pooh Corner. My Friends Tigger and Pooh was alright in my opinion)
One thing I noticed is that Disney Channel kept this show on for a long time. It debuted as a sneak preview on the network in January 1988 before going to ABC later that year. Then, it officially joined the network in October 1994 and aired all the way up until September 2006, which was long after Disney got rid of most of their old stuff from their network.
Disenchantment is fun.
Variety, of all places, made a pretty interesting list (https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/photos/2018/08/best-animated-tv-shows-list?utm_source=Sailthru&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=THR%27s%20Today%20in%20Entertainment_now_2018-08-31%2007:25:55_wrobinson&utm_term=hollywoodreporter_tie). It's a good idea to rank animated series following the splash of animation The Simpsons was responsible for, and I like some of the reasoning here. Obviously it's not perfect, and here are some notes I have, positive and negative:
-Big Mouth is definitely a surprise. I haven't got around to watching it in full yet, but I have seen that "life is a fucked up mess" sequence, which rubbed me the wrong way. It's the kind of unimpressive nihilism that Rick and Morty's biggest critics think it's guilty of. If the rest of the show is like that, I'm not interested.
-I like seeing OG Clone Wars on here over the recent series, but I think Samurai Jack ultimately should be here instead.
-Korra over Airbender is highly surprising.
-I do really like seeing Rocko not only make the top 10, but be the highest-ranked Nicktoon. The show still does wonders.
-Batman: TAS seems pretty low, but I think that's more a sign of the times than a knock on its quality. I feel like we're increasingly moving away from its influence as action cartoons are becoming less of a thing.
-I'm not sure about South Park being the best animated series to premiere since The Simpsons, but I'm really happy to see BoJack and Daria's rankings.
-Also, I'll never get the appeal of Lord and Miller.
-But really, no Family Guy is a good call.
I watched that Marvel Rising Secret Warriors thing on a whim, and it exemplified everything wrong with modern Marvel cartoons. Superheroes who commit wanton collateral damage yet we're still supposed to think they're inspirational. Poor design that does away with any shading or even fluid animation. Characters shoehorned in just because of the movies, with no foreknowledge as to how to make them work as a team. Really unfitting licensed pop music. And annoying comic relief. Squirrel Girl's just Bolin in a wig here. And there's a weird moment where she suddenly acts racist against Kamala, but then they go back to being friends soon after like it didn't happen? It tries way too hard to be the hip, trendy Marvel cartoon that can get down with the kids and teens, but it doesn't work. You'd think after over six tries, they would finally make at least one of these Disney XD Marvel cartoons that could even be half as good as Spectacular or Earth's Mightiest Heroes. Yet they haven't even made anything as entertaining as that 90s Spider-Man show. At least that had charm in its ineptitude.
Also, it's funny that Marvel's releasing this so soon before DC's running the third season of Young Justice, their show that's also meant to tackle teen issues with younger superheroes.
I've been loving the heck out of Summer Camp Island on Cartoon Network and Hilda on Netflix.
Summer Camp Island is weird and cute at the same time. As for Hilda, I don't have a particular reason for watching it other than seeing a lot of hype for it on my Twitter feed, and thankfully, I was not disappointed.
The other week when I was at Newbury Comics, I picked up the box set of Beast Wars since the show was recommended to me and all. Hopefully, I come out liking it as much as other people seem to. (Looking through this thread, I need to get back to Simpsons too. It's on my list!) What my question is is that the set for BW seems to come with something marked a prequel comic. Is that super-duper important or can I just boot up episode 1 without worrying about it?
Just boot up episode 1. I don't remember the last time a tie-in comic was necessary to watch a Transformers show.
Ah, good. That's a relief, then. Seems I have a couple of hours before Jojo airs on Toonami so, I'll try to knock some off tonight.
I have no memory of a prequel comic when I watched the show a few years ago, and I enjoyed it. Let us know how you feel!
After releasing Porky Pig 101 last year, the Warner Archive is trying classic animation again, by releasing the first volume of color Popeye cartoons (http://cartoonresearch.com/index.php/popeye-goes-to-the-movies-on-records/). Apparently the future of getting more classics out- primarily non-Tom & Jerry MGM works and the rest of the Looney Tunes, not just the rest of Popeye- will depend on how well this one does.
So, over the last few weeks I started and got caught up on F is for Family. I had kind of been burned out on family sitcoms for a while (animated or otherwise), but my older brother got me into this one and it's style of humor is right up my alley, personally. It's a good indicator that animated family sitcoms can still work just fine so long as the execution strikes a good balance between various elements. In this case, the humor is crude and often mean-spirited, but not in the way that certain other shows go overboard with it and hammer it in too much to the point of being unbearable. To balance out the obscene nature of the comedy, though, there is a genuine sense of heart and drama to the characters that always keeps getting touched back on, and the more grounded nature of this show tends to keep the core characters feeling relatable in some way, while not being afraid to also acknowledge them as deeply messed up individuals.
I also like that Frank is a more interesting version of the Dad archetype in these kinds of shows since his main character flaw is being driven by impulse and temper rather than just being an idiot for the sake of fulfilling a stereotype. I've actually had friends with father's who act similarly to him. Displaying him with the demeanor of being a well-meaning person but not necessarily a good person is a pretty ballsy move since it could be very easy to hate him, but he has this strange quality that makes you want to see him succeed in some way. Also, I'm a fan of Bill Burr so having him do the voice here is genius in my book; though, then again, it makes sense when you consider that he based most of this show on his childhood experiences.
Glad to hear from another person whom I respect that it's good! The show has its supporters, but it doesn't tend to get the same kind of buzz BoJack or Big Mouth do. I still need to find time for both it and the latter of the previously mentioned series.
Reminds me that I need to watch more Bojack. I like what I've seen of it. I couldn't really get into Big Mouth, though, but that's purely subjective preferences on my part.
And yeah, I'm actually surprised at how overlooked this show is compared to it's peers, especially with the level of talent attached to it (besides Bill Burr and Laura Dern, it even has freaking Sam Rockwell), with Mike Price as the head writer. It's definitely underrated in my book.
I've been re-watching season one of Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes lately and the show still holds up pretty well, IMO. It does a really good job of juggling multiple story-lines while still retaining somewhat of an episodic nature, and can easily integrate and set-up future arcs without taking away from what's going on in the current one. It does make me a bit disappointed that this show got canceled after only just two seasons, since you can tell that they clearly had a lot more material planned for it, and I could've seen it lasting at least another two or three full seasons before wrapping up on it's own terms.
That's a show I'd really like to see again. I admire what the MCU has done with its wealth of characters, but I still like how this one went for a slightly more classic approach to the team, and got just about everything right. It almost feels like the end of an era, since we don't really get action cartoons like that anymore, the new season of Young Justice aside. And I just can't gel with that as much.
Oh, speaking of super hero shows, I finally got around to picking up a copy of Batman Beyond season 3, and watched it all pretty quickly. It was a good set of episodes overall, ultimately better than season 2 thanks to having a shorter season and focusing less on Terry's school life. I think the first season may be the best overall though, with its slightly darker tone. I'm frankly just glad to finish it and complete my DCAU collection.
Quote from: Avaitor on May 27, 2019, 11:30:25 PM
That's a show I'd really like to see again. I admire what the MCU has done with its wealth of characters, but I still like how this one went for a slightly more classic approach to the team, and got just about everything right.
I'm still wondering what went so right with EMH that Marvel Animation can't do it again for their later shows.
Quotethe new season of Young Justice aside. And I just can't gel with that as much.
I don't know what's going on with that show. I admire the ambition in doing a show about the entire DCU instead of just one part of it, but YJ's stuck juggling so many characters in the air that they can't give proper focus on many of them. And I hate this version of the Outsiders. Geo-Force and Cyborg repeat the "angsty teen superhero who takes half the season to mellow out" schtick that Superboy had throughout most of season 1, Forager's fucking annoying and needs his vocal cords ripped apart, and Halo being the show's Kenny McCormick feels off for some reason. There have been some bright spots like the Vandal Savage episode and the one where Beast Boy was stuck in a VR hell, but it has the same problems season 2 had and then some. It's still a lot better than most action cartoons in the past year, but it's hard not getting pissed off by the pacing, characterization, and everything else. You know something's wrong when the romance in an Arrowverse show is less insufferable than YJ's.
Oh yeah, I watched the finale of Star Vs recently. It's fitting that it came out on the same day as Game of Thrones' ending, because it also had a conclusion meant to be happy but sounds horrifying and unsatisfying once you think about it. Even Yara's actress showed up.
I know some people complain about JLU having too many heroes to invest with, but I feel like it did a better job at pacing them around than Young Justice's kitchen sink approach.
Speaking of which, this TTG comic parody of YJ cracks me up (https://castlewyvern.tumblr.com/post/182314491143/teen-titans-go-vol-2-36-2016).
I think it's because for the most part, JLU focused usually on the core seven plus Green Arrow, Question, Huntress, and Supergirl. The main team already have the past two seasons of JL gaining chemistry with each other and figuring out how to work as a team, while the extra four get establishing first episodes right off the bat. Whereas the main YJ team never get that moment of becoming a family like the JL did. The core six of just Robin, Aqualad, Kid Flash, Superboy, Miss Martian, and Artemis only last for thirteen episodes before more members like Zatanna and Rocket get introduced. As soon as Kon mellowed out and quit being an asshole, the time skip happened. And when the show pulled that fakeout Artemis death, and Kon felt sad about it, I struggled to remember a time when the two even talked to each other. At least with JL/JLU, you got that quiet camaraderie with Clark and Bruce, the kinship between Diana and J'onn, John and Shayera's romance, everyone annoyed but still good friends with Wally. YJ doesn't do that. It either takes more episodes than it should letting characters defrost from assholes into heroes, or just throws random superheroes at you and expects you to invest in their arcs without any incentive like Blue Beetle. And by the time the show miraculously irons out all those issues and turns into something good like the season finales, boom, time skip and we're back to those issues again.
Yeah, I'll be honest, while I'm a fan of most of Greg Weisman's stuff up through TSSM, Young Justice just never really clicked with me. I mean, I did enjoy it on an initial viewing (at least the first season), but even the so-called "good" parts of the show are just hard for me to even try and get back into anymore. To me the show's biggest flaw has always been in trying so hard to explore the more "sophisticated" and "complex" (aka "edgy" and "convoluted") side of DC characters and story-lines that it forgets to actually establish them in the first place for us to be invested in what happens in either case. A show like Justice League does show it's age in a lot of places, but I can still enjoy most of it because it works on a fundamental level when it comes to it's core characters that were well-established through simplistic yet effective episodes (mostly from season two, since a lot of season one is kind of cringe-worthy in retrospect). However, with YJ, as Dr. Insomniac mentioned we only just barely got to that point by the end of the first season, and then all of a sudden we were thrown into a time-skip with the entire status-quo changed off-screen, and any investment we had in any ongoing character arcs thrown out the window, thus losing any sense of connection we had built with the main cast up to that point and as a result making everything that followed seem less interesting, no matter how much the show tried to shove how big and important it's stories were down our throats.
Again, starting simple and building from there is just a more effective way to do this. The Kree-Skrull arc of AEMH, for example, is carefully seeded throughout the first season before coming into full swing for the first half of season two, but it works so effectively because by that point the show has successfully found a way to make us give a shit about all of the key players in that event, only introducing new characters and plot-lines as necessary to service the grander story-line. Now, imagine if instead of clearly seeing Captain America capture and replaced by the Skrulls at the end of season one, we just get a reveal out of nowhere in season two that Cap has been a Skrull the whole time, and then another reveal an episode or two later that the Avengers knew all along and were just playing him to get more information. That'd be pretty lame and contrived, but to me that's essentially the kind of writing found in Young Justice in a nutshell. It's plot-twists and big moments just for the sake of plot-twists and big moments, without any sufficient build-up or carefully planted clues to convincingly lead to them, and it comes at the expense of everything that normally makes stories of this nature so engaging. So in the end, the show and it's characters just end up feeling hollow without any layers beneath the flashy surface.
And as a whole, I don't care for the Light. How many times have the YJ cast seemingly won the day, only for the show to reveal it was part of the Light's plan all along? It feels like Weisman recycling Xanatos/Nerissa/Norman's schemes to diminishing results. I enjoy crafty villains as much as the next guy, but there needs to be a limit before it gets too ridiculous. Like when Cersei in Game of Thrones somehow outplayed everyone in Season 7. It didn't make her looks like a cunning master of the game, but only made everyone else (especially Tyrion) look like complete idiots. And that's the same case here. Instead of an equal footing between both heroes and villains in a game of cat and mouse, the Light always manage to outplay every superhero that it becomes predictable. Every time Dick stops a bad guy from killing people, it was somehow part of a 25-step plan Vandal's been thinking up. Meanwhile, the Justice League are so stupid in this show that they don't sense anything wrong with gathering all of their loved ones in one suburban house, and are only saved from a villain killing them all because Lady Shiva said it wasn't part of the plan. The same Justice League who all got mind-controlled by Klarion in season one.
The thing about Xanatos that worked, though, is that while he was always a step ahead of the Gargoyles in his scheming, he was also portrayed as a character first and a villain second. He did end up losing sometimes due to his own personal character flaws, as well as sometimes giving into his own compassion and good-natured humanity which he clearly possessed. To me, the end the original run of the show is the end of the series, and I don't personally consider The Goliath Chronicles or the comics (which I know that Weisman had a hand in the latter) as part of Gargoyles' overall story when I think of the series. So, as far as I'm concerned, Xanatos' character arc concluded with him offering a helping hand to the Gargoyles, abandoning the person he used to be given his new perspective on life. That to me just makes him an interesting character and that's why it actually works when he one-ups the heroes. On the one hand, he may be what you think of as your typical mustache-twirling villain, but on the other hand the actual humanity present in his character keeps him from feeling too corny in that regard.
With the Light, I fully agree with you, and I believe I even stated as much several years ago back when the show was first airing. I found it groan-worthy how almost everything involving that organization ended with a cringe-inducing "all according to plan" villain moment. It didn't make them seem more threatening, it just made them seem more goofy and more like what you'd expect from a stereotypical 80's Saturday morning cartoon made to shamelessly sell toys.
Vaguely related, but I remember that time Weisman made Neil Gaiman mad because he mischaracterized Death in a Captain Atom comic he was writing. (https://comicsalliance.com/the-sandman-connection-how-vertigo-crossed-over-with-dc-comics-continuity/) And since YJ seemingly has no embargo whatsoever for any DC characters, with even some Wildstorm and Milestone characters showing up this season, I expect Weisman to introduce a Vertigo character or two to further add branches to an already thick tree. Maybe even introduce the Endless into the show to get back at Gaiman.
First episode of the Harley Quinn show was funny, if a little too edgy. It's confusing to hear Diedrich Bader as Batman again when this show has the exact opposite tone of Brave and the Bold.
It's happening- AVERY ON BLU!!!! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gAmwuSTqvM&feature=em-uploademail&fbclid=IwAR1hvLhhN4EXvIXZhb30p1D6S7CT3ugYLGdxe3mex6eb4wlRmKm7zVdU124)
Okay, so his MGM work isn't as hard to find in recent years as it used to be- the second LT: Platinum Collection has a dozen of them, and there's a bit more on the VRV app. But this is still pretty exciting.
Been watching X-Men Animated Series (90's Cartoon). I'm currently on the 3rd season. I still have to get season 4 and 5. Batman Animated Series and Justice League maybe better than X-Men in a lot of folks opinion, but dammit, X-Men is me. My childhood is X-Men so the first time transitioning from the 90's cartoon to Evolution I'm like "what the hell is this", in the end it was good stuff, but my initial reaction, yeah I wasn't having it. Going through some of these Phoenix episodes and then just seeing this version of Wolverine just had me smiling. Before the Ironman's and Superman's, it was this Wolverine that was my favorite character ever, and that "do whatever I wanna do", "Go where ever I wanna go" attitude he had was the reason I loved that character so much (props to the v/a for such delivery). For a long time before anime this was my favorite cartoon, bar none and I don't think I will ever get another one like it (nowadays my standards are very high).
I decided to watch The Midnight Gospel. I have to admit, this isn't really my thing at all. I'm not a podcast person to begin with, but I figured that seeing some of Duncan Trussell's works being animated would make for at least a unique watch. While I do admire the art design and like how it meshes with the subject matter of the episode, but I'm just not very interested in the show's constant philosophical discussions. Still, if Pendleton Ward wants to spend the share of his post-AT career making oddball works like this, I'm all for it. I probably won't watch a second season, but I'm glad that it's a thing for those who dig it.
For as much money as Netflix is putting into animation, I've got around to watching very little of it. I still need to see Disenchantment and She-Ra, but I'll admit that I'm unsure about the latter due to my general indifference to Voltron.
Tex Avery Volume 2 confirmed!!!! (https://bluray.highdefdigest.com/90015/texaveryscrewballclassicsvolume2.html)
All the Animaniacs talk over the last few weeks convinced me to rewatch a little bit of Ruegger's catalog, and how many of them have aged well or not.
13 Ghosts of Scooby Doo: While the opening promises a very different Scooby from the previous shows, what I actually got wasn't much of an improvement from the usual Scooby formula. Over three decades a never dying franchise mean the "Scooby-Doo but this time the monsters are real!" premise loses its uniqueness, and the features of the show that haven't eroded are the annoying bits like Flim Flam and the two ghosts. Plus it's hard not to look at the overall plot and think Jackie Chan Adventures did it better. At least Vincent Price is still fun, and it was really disappointing the 13 Ghosts finale from last year had none of this show's flavor.
A Pup Named Scooby Doo: Just like 13 Ghosts, the meta-ness and parody nature that originally made this show stand out was absorbed into later Scooby-Doo media to better effect. The show still has charm, but it never escapes the problem that it creates a stricter episodic formula than even Where Are You? had. This and 13 Ghosts have their place in the franchise's history for trying to do something different, but they never hit the extra mile and end up as stepping stones to the more ambitious shifts like Zombie Island, Mystery Inc or the Gunn films.
Tiny Toons: Some of the episodes I rewatched were a riot like the self-control episode or K-ACME TV. This is the Ruegger show with the biggest place in my nostalgia, and even with some heavily dated pop culture jokes, it still gleams and shows off just why the start of so many other shows like Animaniacs and BTAS sprouted from TTA's staff. However, it sometimes doesn't do enough to differentiate the Tiny Toons cast from their predecessors. What separates Plucky and Daffy besides their color and a wifebeater?
Batman: I often forget that Ruegger co-created this show. Anyway, the Gray Ghost episode he wrote is great. My favorite one out of the bunch, and I fear the midlife crisis that awaits when a future Batman show remakes the episode but hires Affleck or Bale to play Simon Trent.
Animaniacs: All the strengths of TTA but with more of the problems. It's still a great show, but the pop culture references become the main subject in the later episodes I saw. With that and the jarring attempts at emotional earnestness like with the one Slappy episode, I can understand why Spielberg hired a FG writer to run the revival.
Freakazoid: I never watched this show when it first ran and mostly saw only clips after that, and I like I said with his Scooby Doo shows, all the absurdist superhero fiction I've read and watched turns Freakazoid into a quaint one among many. But it's fun for what it is. God, I miss Ricardo Montalban.
Pinky and the Brain: I said this in the other thread, P&TB work better as shorts than in long form. I just don't think the characters and their schemes are deep enough to warrant their own show, and even though retooling the show with Elmyra was significantly worse in every way possible, I can almost understand why Spielberg wanted to shake up the formula. Almost.
Road Rovers: Never saw any of this show before, and only watched one episode when writing this. The only notable thing is the opening is the exact same tune as Freakazoid's. (https://youtu.be/1VDa59HIpkE)
Histeria!: Fuck, I still vividly remember when the fat baby was all over Kids WB's promos, right before Pokemon happened. And I think that's what colors my view on this show. Because it feels like if someone took a bunch of 2-minute animated segments that were meant to run during commercial breaks, and instead taped together into 20-minute portions. Hence why there are over 10 main characters around but all of them serve as hosts for the historical figures who take up the room, and none of the episodes serve to deliver a greater single idea but a dozen trivia notes about China or WWII or whatever topic an episode vaguely focuses on. It just isn't good at being educational because you need an all-encompassing voice or at least room for the multiple voices, while Histeria! ends up with too many POVs fighting for a word to say in so little time that the show has less of an attention span than the children who watched this. So it's too wacky to be educational, but too educational to be wacky, resulting in nothing but generically zany characters exchanging trivia. It becomes the bland, moralizing children's media that Animaniacs and Tiny Toons often mocked.
It is kind of neat if you look at the show as a symbolic bookend to his WB era, such as how the leads in Tiny Toons were students learning the trade at Acme Looniversity, while the cast in Histeria! are basically teachers offering notes to a new generation. But that observation's bittersweet, since until the new TTA reboot comes out, the Tiny Toons cast have spent the years since their show's end hidden in the WB vault, not even allowed as background extras in any later Looney Tunes show or short. Whereas whatever lessons the Histeria! cast taught, they weren't listened to and the result was a quiet cancellation as Kids WB rebranded their image. Students waiting decades for a future and teachers with no jobs. Prescient, I guess.
Animalia/Sushi Pack: I watched an episode of both, and couldn't tell you what either of them were about.
The 7D: So who's idea was it to hire Kelly Osbourne? She's not family-friendly enough for Disney's interests, and she's the exact kind of person Animaniacs would have made fun of. I don't even dislike her, but what was the call there?
I have a soft spot for Ruegger's Scooby shows, but I can concede that they don't come close to hitting greatness, or even the quality of the original Where Are You? It's not even fair to totally blame it on 80's cartoon brain, as we'd see that Ruegger could achieve legitimate quality when he teamed up with Spielberg a few years later- I think these show's meeting at middling at best comes to a combination of Ruegger honing his craft, and Hanna-Barbera not being the place to nurture more daring content at the time. Maybe a bit after he started TTA, when Turner bought the company and Fred Seibert took control, 13 Ghosts or Pup could've turned out as more exciting shows, but even the series from that era hardly achieved greatness on the regular, either. And that's coming from someone who loves 2 Stupid Dogs a ridiculous amount.
I do agree with you on TTA, Animaniacs, and PATB. The latter is somewhat controversial, since plenty seem to prefer the duo on their own vs Animaniacs, but despite some highlights, their shtick did become tiresome rather quickly. Still, that Christmas episode is untouchable.
Ha, I remember liking Road Rovers a lot, because it reminded me of all those other shows, but I tried watching some of it ages ago, and was not impressed. I did think of giving it another chance when it popped up on VRV, but it left just before I could find time to get to it.
Probably means nothing to him since he doesn't get residuals and he never went back to the franchise, but for what it's worth, Ruegger's influence is still heavy in Scooby's DNA. Didn't watch the movie, but Scoob! had a flashback to when the Mystery Gang were kids who happened to solve mysteries. It's just with Mystery Inc and something as insane as the Scooby-Doo Meets KISS movie, his attempts to push the franchise into weirder directions now look like slight nudges.
And the problem with P&TB was also an underlying flaw in Animaniacs, that while most of the characters were funny, few of them were layered enough to deserve more than a few minutes of screentime per episode. Picture a Buttons and Mindy spinoff, for instance. At least Freakazoid has enough screen presence and some depth to carry a show on his own, while you can't say that for any of the TTA/Animaniacs cast without heavily retooling their needs, wants, and social circles and making them actual characters instead of walking jokes and punchlines. It's sort of why WB's had trouble over the 21st century on giving any of the Looney Tunes any long-lasting success. You have to effectively make characters like Bugs and Daffy play completely different roles to make them work in 20-minute episode formats or movies. Even when you successfully retool Daffy into somebody else like what they did with the Duck Dodgers show, it never lasts for more than a few seasons.
What I got out of Road Rovers was thinking "Jesus, how many TMNT-style animal superhero team cartoons came out around this time?" Besides Gargoyles, I can't think of any other show from that format that tried to break out of those confines. And Ruegger likely didn't turn Road Rovers into a parody or a comedic sendoff of the genre because TMNT, patient zero of the genre, was already a Daredevil parody.
I've been watching snippets of some of these DCLA movies. Bits of Apokilips War, War, etc. Just wondering how far do these go back? Like, how many are connected, or rather which ones are connected leading to this war? Thinking about buying these.
The last time I saw this animation was Young Justice and this stuff still looks rather good and fluid. I like some of the designs as well.
Finally watched Harley Quinn yesterday and it is worthy of the praise it gets. :worship:
I also saw Wonder Woman: Bloodlines at Wal-Mart in their $5 DVD bin, bought it since the clip I saw of Wonder Woman fighting Cheetah ( :swoon: )impressed me, and watched it last night. I am glad I got it and want to see more DC animated movies, particularly Justice League vs. Teen Titans and Teen Titans: The Judas Contract.
Mustang, I agree. The animation is really good and I wish I got into them years ago. The movies started in 2013 and from what I've read, they are connected. They remind me of the old Dragon Ball Z movie arcs in that regard.
Just binge-watched Pacific Rim The Black. I never saw Uprising because of the bad reviews and I've seen most people online say this is what Uprising should have been. Great animation, a gripping plot, and the characters were well-designed as well as had likable personalities. I was also impressed with the Kainu-Jaeger hybrid and the Kaiju Boy. I wasn't expecting to see those characters and they added a lot of spirit to the show.
Invincible just wrapped up its first season.
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How are they going to redeem Omni-Man without it coming off as bullshit here? His beatdown on Mark's far more cruel here than in the comic. Comic Nolan turning good was already hard to swallow, but he never used Mark's head to kill an entire train of civilians while his son could do nothing but watch each corpse smear across his face.
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Seeing as how they have changed a number of things from the comics, I would think it best to not ever have Nolan accepted on Earth again. Even in the comics where he only indirectly killed a bunch of people in his fight with Mark, it still felt too much of a leap for him to be forgiven since he caused so much death including directly killing the original Guardians of the Globe. It would make more sense if they just stick with him getting on good terms with The Coalition and staying there permanently after his redemption. Granted, the work around in the comic was that his Earth Identity was still a secret, but it still made very little sense considering that Cecil and The Immortal, among others, know his identity and IMO should never be willing to forgive him no matter what.
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As for Mark ever forgiving him, I can see him viewing Nolan as a dad again with time and heavy penance on his part, but not as a hero after what happened.
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As for Mark ever forgiving him, I can see him viewing Nolan as a dad again with time and heavy penance on his part, but not as a hero after what happened.
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Yeah, it takes Mark a long time to even start trusting him again in the comic book. I think the show would do best to play up the tension between them throughout the series. That said, I think both Mark and Debbie obviously have a biased perspective of Nolan, so it does make sense that they would eventually come around to him despite the atrocities that he has committed. Granted, Debbie comes around a little too easily in the comic which I always hated. That said, I definitely don't think that he should ever be forgiven by any Earth-based characters who aren't direct family, even after he helps them fight off other invading Viltrumites.
I finally got around to watching Invincible, and I thought that it was a strong adaptation of the comics. My only complaint is that there were a couple of questionable voice acting calls. I like Steven Yuen, Zazie Beetz, and Gillian Jacobs as much as anyone, but their voices do not pass for teenagers anymore.
I didn't notice all that much. Mostly since plenty of teenage cartoon characters don't like sound anything like teens to me. Fits the medium too, since Invincible takes tons of influence from Spider-Man, and none of the Peters in animation have ever sounded like teenagers.
Josh Keaton kind of passed for a teenager, IMO, but when he had to speak more serious lines it was a bit more jarring for me, especially since he also did the English Dub voice of Ryu Hayabusa in Ninja Gaiden 2 and I was reminded of that voice in such instances.
I'm really glad that Invincible has caught on strong from the get-go. I'll be really glad if this show manages to get to characters like Conquest and Thragg, as well as giving us more of Allen who is my favorite character in the series.
Yeah, I do think Josh Keaton and Drake Bell pull off sounding like teens a little better, but no, the 60's Spidey voice definitely sounded older. So did the 90's and Amazing Friends VAs, but those were rare examples of focusing on older Peter in the first place.
And maybe because I can only hear Mac from Foster's Home, but the one time they did cast a teenager to voice Spidey, it sounded off-putting. (https://youtu.be/XgGb0gFRRhI) Like when a teen drama casts an actual 16-year-old for once, but they stand out so much when the rest of the cast is a bunch of guys in their 20s/30s.
I've had a lot of free time since the show I was working on has been on hiatus. I've spent a little bit of that time watching some anime, like Hajime no Ipo, which I did enjoy, even though I don't understand its fascination with Makunouchi's penis. Still, it's gotta be the second best boxing anime/manga of all time.
I also tried Re: Zero and the God of High School, but I couldn't get into either of them. The former wasn't as bad, but I wasn't exactly compelled either, while TGOHS made me feel like I was back in high school, and how I might have had slightly more tolerance for this then, but probably not enough.
So now I'm spending a little more watching cartoons instead, and I'm alternating between a couple of shows I watched as a kid, and wanted to see how they hold up. One is Garfield and Friends, which is honestly pretty damn clever, and has stronger voice acting and animation than most of its contemporaries. I don't love that most US Acres segments have a cheesy song in them, but from what I understand/recall, this will stop being a problem a little later on. The Garfield segments are still my favorite, though. They take me back to when I would spend many a weekend scouring thrift stores to find old collections of the strips as a kid.
I've also been going back to ReBoot, which is definitely showing its age. Not only is this pretty far removed from how we see the internet today, but the tone is a little off. It wants to be taken seriously, but adds old Hanna-Barbera sound effects in at the most awkward times. The writing is also not very strong, to the point that you wonder how embarrassed Tony Jay was to deliver some of his lines. But of course, he's a professional, and Megabyte still sounds threatening. It can still be fun, like the pirate episode featuring Long John Baldry, and the first season finale show hints at a darker show creeping in. I'll get to the next season soon enough.
Yeah, I remember Re:Zero's first season being a slow burn that only hit a notch once Betelgeuse showed up. God of High School's first episode bored me, and lack of good word of mouth didn't convince me to continue.
On youtube I love "TheOdd1sOut", because its stories and personals contain a certain innocence and charm, complemented by humor and cheerful characters.
The best recent videos
Villain with Dyslexic (http://fumacrom.com/1NOjB)
Lizard Cupid (http://fumacrom.com/1NOls)
My Girlfriend is Kinda Odd (http://fumacrom.com/1NOqK)
The best videos of the past
Conspiracy Theories and Crazy People (http://fumacrom.com/1NOzC)
Getting Lost at Camp Geronimo (http://fumacrom.com/1NP1X)
My Decaying Mind in Quarantine (http://fumacrom.com/1NP2j)
Ejoy! :sly:
Martian Successor Nadesico.
Ultraman - New generation.
Starting Arcane because everyone's been talking about that. First 2 episodes were average, but that 3rd episode was insane.
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Starting Arcane because everyone's been talking about that. First 2 episodes were average, but that 3rd episode was insane.
It's good stuff! You don't even need to play the League of Legends games for it either.
Yeah, that's what shocked me about this show. It could've been every other cartoon that's a tie-in to a game, or even like the other LoL cinematics I saw. It didn't need to be anything more than another commercial for League of Legends, but the show goes so beyond that.
Finally got around to Arcane, and I thought that it was pretty good. Maybe a little overhyped, but if anything, that's on me for waiting so long to get to the show after the "holy shit, this LoL show is actually tight" factor has died down.
But the animation and attention to detail are deserving of praise, and I'm happy to see this and Invincible prove that there's an audience for action-oriented western animation for adults.
Any of you seen The Cuphead Show! on Netflix, yet? I binged all twelve episodes yesterday. I loved the game, and thought the trailer was good but the show exceeded my expectations. I won't give anything away yet, but the 2nd episode "Baby Bottle" is HILATIOUS! ;D
I hope the next batch of episodes is out soon.
I decided to give the Netflix He-Man show a shot. Not the Kevin Smith show that's supposed to be a continuation of the original, I picked the CG reboot instead. And it's honestly not bad!
It feels a lot like your standard post-Avatar action show, in that it wants to reach an older audience as well, but it has to add in lame jokes and some stock character building tropes to keep the kids entertained. But it's an easily digestible watch, and I do think that it hits enough of the themes it reaches for to consider it a pass. I hope that I don't get as bored of it as I did with Voltron, though.
I'll take at peek at both He-Man shows after I get done with my rewatch of Cartoon Network's 2002 version. Man, does it ever hold right the heck up. :thumbup:
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It feels a lot like your standard post-Avatar action show,
I thought that was what She-Ra was trying to do.
I saw a few episodes of the Kevin Smith show and got bored. The only thing that amused me was having Sarah Michelle Gellar basically reprise Buffy for the first time in years, while calling her Teela.
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Quote from: Avaitor on March 31, 2022, 05:07:11 PM
It feels a lot like your standard post-Avatar action show,
I thought that was what She-Ra was trying to do.
I was under the impression that She-Ra was more of a Korra wannabe, or maybe I'm just under that impression due to its queerness. To be fair, I only gave that one a few episodes before realizing that it wasn't for me.
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Quote from: Avaitor on March 31, 2022, 05:07:11 PM
It feels a lot like your standard post-Avatar action show,
I thought that was what She-Ra was trying to do.
I was under the impression that She-Ra was more of a Korra wannabe, or maybe I'm just under that impression due to its queerness. To be fair, I only gave that one a few episodes before realizing that it wasn't for me.
I was too, and then I kept hearing the fandom hype it up as "the Avatar of our generation". And I didn't understand because I also watched a few episodes and didn't see it that way.
Wendell & Wild is pretty good, but I'm not the biggest fan of its story, or at least how dialogue heavy the film is. I'll always prefer Nightmare and Coraline's more economic storytelling methods, and will probably stick to watching them again.
Still, I'm glad that Selick got to make another gorgeous stop-motion film, and it's fun to hear Key and Peele back together. It's a shame that Netflix is largely burying it, but hopefully del Toro's Pinocchio will live up to the hype and will explain why they're doing fuck-all with this.
And I just saw GDT's Pinocchio during its brief theatrical run, and I can kind of see why Wendell & Wild is being ignored. This is definitely better, and I like how it goes for a different interpretation of the story than Disney's while remaining nearly as faithful.
I don't know if this will be my favorite animated feature of the year (the songs are honestly all mid at best), but it is the best I've seen so far and I think probably deserves the Oscar.
We don't have a dedicated Invincible thread? Note to self, rectify this when season 2 drops.
Anyway, I loved Eve's special. It was cool to hear Stephen Root, and the fight scenes had shockingly impressive anime influences that I think worked. Definitely has me ready for S2 to drop.
Yeah, they did a good job expanding and improving on her origin story from the comics. This whole series so far has been a vast improvement overall on what I found to be a pretty good but heavily flawed comic book series. It feels like Kirkman was able to revise and work out the kinks with thus telling, which is why I'm also excited for season 2 to drop as well.
Well, soon we'll see if those 13-year-old memories will resurface.
Unpopular opinion, but even though I think it's cool they got all the movie cast back, I kinda wish they got regular voice actors for this. Michael Cera just doesn't sound like Scott to me; he just sounds like Michael Cera. Same with more than a few of the cast, live-action acting and voice acting require different muscles that I think many actors and directors neglect to consider. Not everyone can be Robin Williams and master both.
Caught up on My Adventures with Superman, a series which confuses me greatly due to its airing on Adult Swim despite being about as kid-friendly as any other DC animated series that isn't Harley Quinn or YJ, if not more so (an out of place CW logo at the beginning of the latest episode added more to the mystery). And I have to say, this show's pacing is so hectic. There's no room for a breather or time for the characters to quietly contemplate. Like how at the end of the episode where Lois and Clark get into a fight over his identity and seemingly burn that bridge, they're on speaking terms again a minute into the next episode and their relationship mostly goes back to being affectionate by the end of that one. And then they throw a Legion of Multiversal Loises at me even though it hasn't even been 10 episodes yet. It's like the show has zero attention span, which is preferable to something like YJ expecting you to have the patience to see character arcs take dozens of episodes to move a single step, but at the cost of giving the story time to reflect on itself. Almost like the producers were afraid that this show would be cancelled after only a season so they threw in as much as possible.
Now that you mention it, you're right, the show's pacing is kind of hectic, and it has no business being an [as] series.
And the thing is, the show doesn't have to be so hectic, I think audiences are really clicking with it. Most shows that receive the kind of discourse it gets tend to be hits, and from what I can see, aside from a few weirdoes, people really seem to like the show's take on Clark, Lois and Jimmy. It could easily thrive as is even if it went down a step.
I assume they saw YJ getting canned again despite it apparently doing well in streaming numbers, remembered what happened to Beware and GLTAS, and got anxious.
And I guess CN having no kid-friendly action block meant it had to go to AS because there was nowhere else. Don't understand why they don't just remodel Toonami to be more of a primetime block and not late night to make up for this though (reminds me of the time I was watching an interview with the Dr. Stone dub cast, and one of them said that while they were excited to be on a Toonami show, nobody they knew was awake when it aired).
Also, the MAWS fandom oversold Parasite on me. They were acting like the show revitalized him in the same way Heart of Ice revitalized Mr. Freeze, and what I got was just evil Tony Stark turning into Shin Godzilla. Not that I didn't like this version, but Clark already has plenty of evil billionaires and giant monsters in his rogues gallery, and fans were acting like this brought something new to the table.
Saw the MAWS finale, and it still felt rushed. Maybe I'm subconsciously missing the Arrowverse, but this could've flowed a lot better if it was double the length. Could've added a lot more character moments instead of speeding through plot like it's a marathon race.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on September 03, 2023, 11:33:20 PMSaw the MAWS finale, and it still felt rushed. Maybe I'm subconsciously missing the Arrowverse, but this could've flowed a lot better if it was double the length. Could've added a lot more character moments instead of speeding through plot like it's a marathon race.
Funny you mentioned that. I was just thinking about the Arrowverse myself, and yes, I fell off that shit hard just like everybody else did. I don't think I even finished Arrow's final season after the COIE event crossover. That said, while it's mostly lambasted now, and while even the early stuff couldn't escape a lot of those pesky CW-isms that everybody hates, the early Arrow, Flash, and LoT stuff actually had a pretty firm grasp on the fundamentals of good comic book style storytelling. Sure, they were kind of soap-opera-ish, but so are actual comic books, and it honestly fit rather well in this medium. It ended up giving more weight to stuff like the Slade arc from season 2 of arrow or the Thawne stuff from season one of The Flash.
As for MAWS, I think the show falls firmly in the "it's alright" camp for me. Nothing about it comes off as egregious or cringe (maybe a few things, but not much worth noting), but it also doesn't feel like it has any room to breathe. I saw people praising the show for having Lois find out Clark's identity so quickly, but to me it felt hollow and was robbed of emotional consequence despite the show pretending otherwise. I think if the show had let the season play out with her suspecting and having that sense of tension only to have it either revealed at the end or early on in a second season, that would have made the moments and subsequent fallout caused by it feeling a lot more impactful than it did by doing it so early.
This is the kind of show that if it gets a season two, I will probably still watch it since it has the potential to be better, but as it stands it was kind of a big "meh" for me so far.
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 12, 2023, 11:55:55 AMNothing about it comes off as egregious or cringe (maybe a few things, but not much worth noting)
I'll say the Flamebird running gag got annoying after the first couple episodes, and I generally prefer STAS' more sardonic humor compared to the wackier comedy from MAWS. There were a lot of "Yep, I sure remember when Team Rocket made this same gag on Pokemon over two decades ago" (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mxrZYoCqni8) moments sprinkled throughout the season. At least it's nowhere near as bad as any of the YJ Forager scenes or Harley Quinn only knowing how to make the same ass joke when talking about Dick though. And I'm certainly not a "Jokes? In my capeshit?! How dare you?!" guy, but somebody at DC Animation really needs to work harder on the comedy angle. I remember watching that Catwoman DTV movie last year, and the quips in that were so awful it made the Thor 4 screaming goats look sophisticated by comparison.
Also, I saw a tweet (https://twitter.com/jakewyattriot/status/1697873762870571418) from the showrunner confirming my suspicions that a lot of the pacing issues were from fear of cancellation. Which I understand due to WB's recent issues, but it's still insane how a Superman cartoon doesn't have the safety net to let things breathe. It's like if a new Batman cartoon had to speedrun from Year One to Damian all in one season because they were scared of getting cancelled, which there's unfortunately precedent for in Beware's case, but it's still a poor indicator of what's happening at WB.
And oh yeah, it's almost cumbersome to remember this is the first proper Superman animated series in 23 years. It certainly doesn't feel like that thanks to all the animated movies and Clark showing up in other cartoons, but the topic is still weary to think about. Likely explains why I kept seeing MAWS and STAS pitted against each other in Twitter arguments even though they're tonally very different shows.
Saw the first episode of Krapopolis, and Dan Harmon is so lucky he found a cast with wonderful chemistry in Community.
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Mid title too.
So in case anyone had reservations watching the new Scott Pilgrim because they already know how the story goes and don't want to watch a third go-around
Spoiler
It's not an adaptation, it's a sequel. Rebuild of Scott Pilgrim time.
The change has definitely pushed this up in personal queue. The funny thing is that I wouldn't have minded a more faithful adaptation of the comics, since I'm not hot on a lot of the changes Wright made in the movie, but I like the idea behind this.
I can't tell if only 4 episodes of Invincible before a hiatus is a production issue or Amazon spacing out premieres to trick users into staying on Prime for longer.
And yeah, figured that Mark would be much less forgiving here than he was in the comics.
I think I heard some people say that it's a way to build up hype for the next set of episodes. Though I can easily see Amazon delaying the episodes as a way for people to stick around for Prime.
Yeah, I swore that I saw that it was a decision by the staff, that this is a good stopping point. Still, it's weird to do so when you only have an 8 episode season, but Stranger Things did something similar last year...
So has anybody else been watching Blue Eye Samurai? Because I'm halfway through that and enjoying it a lot. Very R-rated Mulan vibes.