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Discuss any and all video reviews on the site, including Nostalgia Critic, 5 Second Movies, Chester A. Bum, Nostalgia Chick... ah, you get the picture.
Anyways, what better place to start than the NC's review of the first story arc for the original Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles cartoon, Turtle Tracks. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/29193-nc-the-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-cartoon) I really like the idea of a Raiders of the Lost Arc segment, and I look forward to seeing more from it(like maybe the arc that started off Ducktales).
It's a pretty good review. I got a lot of laughs out of it and I agree with Doug. The original TMNT is far from perfect, but on the right night, it's great for some nostalgia.
Personally, I want to see him go through the DuckTales or Transformers pilots again above anything else. Rescue Rangers, G.I. Joe, TaleSpin and Thundercats are other likely candidates that I think would turn out to be interesting. I'll be up for any of these.
Doug's best and worst of 2010 are up. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/29227-dougs-best-and-worst-movies-of-2010)
Only saw his worst as of this post, but I gotta agree with what he said about Alice in Wonderland and Easy A. Trying to shove logic into Alice is like trying to turn The Pianist into a comedy. And with Easy A, it attempted to be an homage to John Hughes, but it tried too hard to feel hip and liberal. Hell, it made Juno look layered and complex.
This hasn't been used in a while, has it? I have two questions to bring it back to life, and I'll answer them myself when I get up tomorrow.
1- What did you think of Sequel month? Better than Arnold or Nickelodeon month?
2- Do you mind that Doug isn't posting up a schedule any more?
I'm indifferent to the 2nd question, as I rarely ever bothered to check out any of his schedules when he posted them up, anyways, but as for the 1st question, I think Sequel month was OK. None of his reviews were bad or boring, and I generally enjoyed each of them, but as far as his January month specials go, I still find Arnold Month to be his best by far, with this one coming in as 2nd by default. Obviously Nickelodeon Month was his worst (which was also his first time doing something special for the month of January) but at the same time it wasn't as "dreadful" as people made it out to be. Its just that the Critic was obviously too biased in his opinion based on what he grew up watching with Nick compared to the later shows that came on after he stopped watching. He gave positive enough reception to the shows that he remembered as a kid, but unfairly looked at the shows that came on after he stopped watching Nick, clearly showing that he was letting pure nostalgia control his opinion (and on top of that, it didn't even seem like he had watched more than a few episodes of the shows which he wasn't familiar with, such as Hey Arnold!, just to name a single example). That said, I still say his Good Burger review was brilliant, and made up for a lot of the crap from the previous reviews of that month.
Personally, I loved all of the reviews that he did for Arnold month, including Junior, which was pretty underrated among his reviews, IMO.
As for this month, his quality was pretty consistent. None of his reviews were bad, and I generally enjoyed each of them, but at the same time nothing he did really stood out all that much this month, either. So, on the whole, the month went alright. Not great, but still pretty solid, IMO.
The thing with Nick month is that he made so many bad decisions. For one, Kenan & Kel is easy as hell to find online since it aired in the UK for years. He could have easily found something other than the movie to watch.
For another, has he never heard of All Grown Up? Why did he mention what would happen to the Rugrats if they grow up without referencing the show and special? I know that was way after he got out of Nick, but it wasn't that unpopular, and easy to look up online.
And the rest of his videos sound like he doesn't really know much about any of these shows at all and only watched two or three episodes each of them. On top of that, they just weren't funny. If he had a little more time, they could have been better, but I'm still disappointed over them.
I'll agree that Arnold month was better, but I enjoyed sequel month as well. Especially NIMH 2 and Ferngully 2. I thought he questioned the consistency of Care Bears 2 too much, considering the type of movie it was. He was really picking at straws with that one.
Tom Baker?! How could you?! (http://nostalgiacritic.blip.tv/file/4711164/)
This was an underwhelming review. I don't think the Critic can really do "so bad it's good movies that well".
Which reminds me, I don't get why his review of The Room is so liked. The movie is far funnier than any one's commentary could ever be, and all of the add-on's he put into it are annoying, specifically the cameos and the future crap.
If you watch the movie for yourself, you'll see what I mean.
Doug lists down the top 10 movies that he hates but that everyone else seems to love in this (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/29706-dougs-top-10-movies-he-hates-but-everyones-else-loves) video.
Surprisingly, I pretty much agree with him about every movie on his list to some extent, except for Gladiator which I wholeheartedly disagree with him on in every regard. And to be fair, in this case his only real complaint for it was that it felt bland, boring, and generic to him, which is about as subjective as it can get. Personally, I thought it was really entertaining, and while the characters weren't really memorable, they were likable enough, IMO.
As for everything else on his list, though, I agree with him to at least some extent, with the exception of With Honor and Moulin Rouge, both of which of movies that I have never seen and therefore have no opinion to either agree or disagree with him on. For what its worth, though, I pretty much know that MR is the type of movie that I would hate, myself, so I would probably agree with him on that one.
Let me briefly go over what I think of his list for each choice:
10. Cars- Completely agree with everything he said about the movie
9. Gladiator- Completely disagree with everything he said about the movie
8. Avatar- I agree with him that it has a weak story and is very overrated but at the same time I don't think that makes it a bad film by any stretch, it was still fairly entertaining for what it was, and while its not what I would call a good film, its really honestly far away from a bad one
7. With Honors- I haven't seen it so I honestly have no opinion on it
6. American Pie- Fuck yes! I've always hated this movie. He pretty much nailed why exactly its a bad movie that somehow got overrated to death
5. Signs- Yeah, I pretty much agree, though I think it was more stupid than so bad its hilarious, all-in-all
4. Nell- Yeah, its pretty much garbage that was only made so that Jodie Foster could try and win an Oscar, and I HATE Jodie Foster, even in Silence of the Lambs (as a matter of fact she's the only thing that really hurt the quality of the film, IMO)
3. Matilda- Well, I don't hate it, but I never really liked it, either, and I agree with most of his criticisms on the film
2. District 9- Pretty much the same as Avatar, in that I totally agree with his criticisms of the film, but I also feel he goes overboard in downright hating it because he only hates it because its far more popular than it deserves to be, but judged on its own its far from a bad film, and its also fairly entertaining for what it is, but its true that this movie has absolutely no originality to it whatsoever
1. Moulin Rouge: Another movie that I have honestly never seen, but in this case I can already tell that I'd agree with Doug on it, anyways.
So, overall, I can personally approve of most of this list except for Gladiator.
Next week he says that people who got pissed at him for this list can "take their revenge" on him when he lists down his top 10 movies that he loves but everyone else seems to hate. In all honesty that may just prove to be an even more interesting list to see than this one.
10- Cars- Easily Pixar's worst film, I'll say that much
9- Gladiator- Haven't seen, so no comment. A lot of people seem to hate it nowadays, though.
8- Avatar- Fair enough. It's definitely not a film you need to buy to own.
7- With Honor- Another one I haven't seen
6- American Pie- Despite Alyson Hannigan, I never liked this one at all. Honestly, I think the teen comedies from this era are way better than the ones from around that time.
5- Signs- This is another one like Gladiator where I don't think too many people like it anymore. I always hated it, but to be fair, I also hate everything else Shamlyan, and had before he went south.
4- Neil- Also haven't seen
3- Matilda- This is one I liked as a kid, and I saw it a bunch back then. I think I might need to rewatch it to see what I think about it nowadays
2- District 9- I don't quite agree with Doug, but he has some good points. Even when I first saw it, I thought the movie had bad narrative changes and that the lead guy wasn't too likable.
1- Moulin Rouge- Also haven't seen, and I never thought I was missing much, anyway.
10. ...There are people who actually liked Cars?
9. Gladiator is fucking awesome. I love it.
8. I'm not a fan of Avatar, either, but I wouldn't say I hate it.
7. Never seen this one.
6. American Pie sucks balls and the series gets worse and worse with every shitty sequel.
5. Jesus Christ, Signs. It wasn't nearly as bad as Lady In The Water or The Happening, but it was still total garbage IMO.
4. Never even heard of this one.
3. This film is pretty meh. Far from bad, though.
2. District 9 is great! Sure, the apartheid similarities are obvious and groan-worthy, but it was a pretty cool movie I thought.
1. I've never been a fan of Moulin Rouge, but I don't think I'm really the target audience for it.
Moulin Rouge is proof that as long as it has fancy costumes and singing and dancing (but not animated!) the Academy will throw awards at it like a little kid throwing bananas into a monkey cage.
Chicago is also proof of my theory.
I don't think Sweeney Todd won anything when it was eligible.
Good thing Nine didn't either. The Fellini fan in me still can't get over that shit.
I believe Sweeney got the same token nods the other Burton stuff did. Mainly art and sound nods.
If anyone other than him did it, I bet it would have won best picture over whatever actually deserved it. Just like Chicago did.
I liked Cars, for what it was. Sure, the story was weak, and the Larry the Cable Guy tow truck is annoying unless you're a total redneck, but those are the only things I think is wrong with it. Other aspects, such as the other voice work(Paul Newman, George Carlin) was awesome, I liked a lot of the detail in it(stuff like the bugs being actual VW Bugs), and being a car guy I loved all the references to automotive history and racing, even if I'm not a big Nascar fan. It may be Pixar's worst, and I may end up agreeing with Doug once I actually watch the review, but I don't think it was a bad movie in any way.
That said, I will say making a sequel really is stretching it, especially since two of my biggest defenses(Paul Newman and George Carlin) won't be in it.
Quote from: Avaitor on February 07, 2011, 06:47:30 PM
9- Gladiator- Haven't seen, so no comment. A lot of people seem to hate it nowadays, though.
Really? Most people I know love this film, and the fact that its so well liked is why Doug put it up on his list. It does have its fair share of haters now, just as all popular films do, but honestly, I haven't seen all that many haters for it these days, and if they do hate it its usually for pretty poor reasoning that is completely subjective anyways. Even all Doug could say was that it was bland to him, but personally I found it to be quite the opposite, in that I was simply entertained by it. For some reason I think people go way harsher on that film than it deserves rather than actually trying to be entertained, just because they don't thin its that great.
But, whatever, its their loss, as far as I'm concerned. Gladiator was a pretty entertaining movie, IMO.
It's one of those movies that I seem to see a lot of dislike for nowadays. I don't know if it's warranted or not because I just haven't got around to seeing the thing.
okay herea are my thoughts
10- Cars- I still like Cars, but it's for younger kids, and there's a sequel. Really?
9- Gladiator- It's decent but it's like all those other Romans movies.
8- Avatar- It lacks the kids' jokes and charms that made the TV series entertaining.
7- With Honor- Haven't seen. Wouldn't know the difference between that and Prizzi's Honor.
6- American Pie- The anime geeks must love stuff like this since they make so many ecchi comedies. It's got some funny moments though and propelled the careers of those youngsters.
5- Signs- This one's decent to me, although like many of his other movies, can only be watched once.
4- Nell - sounds like an oldie, I think I skipped that
3- Matilda- comparable to most Disney and kids movie fare, nothing outstanding
2- District 9- One of my friends liked it.
1- Moulin Rouge- ugh that was annoying, I couldn't watch more than 15 minutes. It's almost as annoying as that Mamma Mia cheerfest, but at least Mamma Mia has Abba songs and those are cool. Bleh 70s and 80s music should not mix with 19th century looking stuff unless it's an intentional fish out of water story. And anyone who knows about the real Moulin Rouge would be appalled.
Quote from: Angus on February 07, 2011, 09:19:19 PM
8- Avatar- It lacks the kids' jokes and charms that made the TV series entertaining.
I think you have James Cameron's Avatar confused with The Last Airbender.
Funny, because usually people get that the other way around.
Oh, whoops. :sweat: I guess having M. Night on the list had me going.
Well the James Cameron Avatar one hmm, plot was decent even if it had to be predictable, the graphics looked like something out of Final Fantasy, the sound and special effects were good. People like it for the same reasons why people watch Titanic, well, except for no Leonardo D'Caprio.
Quote from: Angus on February 07, 2011, 09:33:10 PM
Oh, whoops. :sweat: I guess having M. Night on the list had me going.
Except nobody liked The Last Airbender.
They both sucked. There, happy? :thumbup:
Quote from: Desensitized on February 07, 2011, 09:38:16 PM
They both sucked. There, happy? :thumbup:
I can live with that. Even though I will go on the record and say that Avatar deserved every award in the Technology Department. Those are the only awards it deserves.
I don't really feel that Avatar sucked as a movie when looked at on its own, but I will say that it certainly sucked by James Cameron's standards. I was really disappointed that the guy who created some truly revolutionary and inspirational sci-fi films in the past made something so insanely cliche like this movie. I mean, its still fun for what it is, but it doesn't seem like something that someone of Cameron's status would churn out.
That's essentially what I meant. By James Cameron standards... It's pretty low on his resume of films.
Next mystery video is the Top 11 dumbest moments of a certain Marvel character. (http://nostalgiacritic.blip.tv/file/4741242/)
It was a good list and I agree with it but the title is pretty misleading. This time its not so much about bad moments (he literally only named a couple of bad "moments"/scenes out of the entire list), but rather just flaws that the Spider-Man movies had in general. And also, he's completely right about how much people overreacted to Spider-Man 3. ALL 3 Spider-Man films had extremely cheesy dialogue and over-the-top acting (though I for one actually liked Willem Dafoe's over-the-top acting for The Green Goblin just like I like the over acting that certain other villains do that makes them fun to watch, even if you can't really take them seriously). I could name just as many stupid moments from the first 2 films that are easily just as bad as any of the 3rd movie's stupid moments (granted that I will admit that the emo and dance scenes pushed things too far, but they each only lasted about 5 minutes each, so its not like they made up the whole entire movie).
The only complaint that still baffles me is the one about Spider-Man appearing in front of the American flag. I mean, he's there for like, what, 2 seconds? Its just a stupid nit-pick complaint that really holds no weight. Other than that, though, the NC covered everything else that was wrong with the films down pretty well. I personally liked them for their over-the-top cheesy-ness (which is pretty much Sam Raimi's main style, anyways), and while I myself would have preferred a more serious take on the character, these movies were still fun for what they are much like how the Evil Dead movies are fun for what they are. Of course you're not really supposed to take them seriously, and in Spider-Man's case, you're only meant to partially take it seriously at certain points. Other than that, though, the movies are just over-the-top entertaining popcorn flicks. In this regard, there's no way that you can say that SM3 was bad because of this and not claim that the first 2 movies were pretty much just as bad for having most of the same problems. I also think its really stupid how SM2 is considered to be such a great super-hero movie when its just plain silly most of the time.
Here is Doug's 10 movies that he likes that everyone hates. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/29799-top-10-movies-doug-likes-but-everybody-else-hates)
10- Huh, I thought this one of Shamalyan's better received films. Haven't seen it so I can't comment.
9- Haven't seen, so I can't say. It sounds better than Sandler's usual stuff though.
8- I agree pretty much completely with him here. Decent but could have been better.
7- Didn't see. Didn't interest me.
6- Not a big fan of the franchise, but my uncle is, and this is the best movie of them.
5- I haven't got into anything Star Trek besides the movie yet, so I can't comment.
4- Didn't see. Not a big Carrey fan.
3- Only saw the first. Did not like it, even in 99.
2&1- Fair enough.
I saw that list last night and meant to post about it but didn't have the time to get around to it. Anyways, here are my thoughts on his choices:
9 & 10- Never seen either of them, so I can't comment on them
8- I remember liking this movie as a kid, but its been ages since I last saw it and I can barely remember anything about it, so I'll have to check it out again sometime in the future
7- I thought that it was as mediocre as a film could possibly be, but I certainly didn't hate it, so I'll give it that much
6- I was never interested in the Narnia books or films, but to be fair since I haven't seen this movie I can't really judge whether its good or bad, but really I'm just indifferent to it
5- Yet another film that I haven't seen
4- Once again, I haven't seen this film for pretty much the same reasons as Avaitor
3- I used to be in that phase where I liked The Matrix but really when I look back on it the entire trilogy is pretty much trash
2- YES! If there's one thing on this entire list that I agree with him 100% on, its this movie. I always acknowledged its flaws, but there is no way that anyone can really say that this film was that bad without completely hating on the first 2 films as well, which had just as many ridiculous moments. Personally I was entertained by the film for what it was, and I really feel that the massive amount of hate for it was overblown way beyond what it really deserved criticism for (and I agree with its main criticisms, but I disagree that there was nothing good the movie, as it was still quite entertaining, IMO)
1- I can understand and respect Doug's opinion on this one, but on the contrary I didn't find this to be so big and epic for the 3rd movie. It only looked big and epic because it just had a lot of mutants in it, but almost none of them had any character beyond just being there for a couple of appearances, and the action scenes were highly underwhelming for the most part. By biggest problem was that this film just failed to make me care about any of the characters, though, whereas the 2nd film had me completely invested in them, and even the 1st to an extent. The problem with this film was that it was just extremely plain and boring, IMO, especially in comparison to the first 2 movies.
10. I actually really liked Unbreakable, tbh.
9. I absolutely hate anything with Sandler in it, but Punch-Drunk Love is probably his most tolerable movie.
8. I love Atlantis! I didn't know this movie was widely hated. :(
7. Hancock wasn't terrible but I REALLY didn't like it.
6. Absolutely hated The Lion, The Witch, and The Wardrobe (the book) and have no desire to ever see any of the Chronicles of Narnia movies.
5. Star Trek: Nemesis? It wasn't in any way good, but it was certainly better than a lot of the other Star Trek movies.
4. I hate Jim Carrey and have purposefully avoided watching The Cable Guy because of this.
3. I still like the first Matrix movie for whatever reason, but I was never big on the sequels. Reloaded was far better than Revolutions, though.
2. I hate Spider-Man 3, but at least I could stay awake through the whole thing, which is more than I can say for the second one.
1. I've never been a fan of the X-Men movies, honestly. I might have seen the third one, but I don't really remember anything about it.
Quote from: Foggle on February 15, 2011, 07:28:43 PM
8. I love Atlantis! I didn't know this movie was widely hated. :(
Yeah, it kind of has the same reputation as Treasure Planet or The Black Cauldron, in that they're not movies that Disney typically tries to do and that they aren't regarded as well as the classics.
I like just about all of the DACs, aside from Home on the Range and Chicken Little which I haven't seen and probably won't get around to for a while, and Brother Bear, which just plain sucked. I understand why those movies aren't well regarded, but it kind of sucks to see them so often forgotten.
Quote from: Avaitor on February 15, 2011, 07:34:47 PM
Quote from: Foggle on February 15, 2011, 07:28:43 PM
8. I love Atlantis! I didn't know this movie was widely hated. :(
Yeah, it kind of has the same reputation as Treasure Planet or The Black Cauldron, in that they're not movies that Disney typically tries to do and that they aren't regarded as well as the classics.
The Black Cauldron was one of my favorite Disney movies growing up. ):
X3?
Oh man... I can't defend that mess. Not in a million years.
Quote from: Foggle on February 15, 2011, 07:38:27 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on February 15, 2011, 07:34:47 PM
Quote from: Foggle on February 15, 2011, 07:28:43 PM
8. I love Atlantis! I didn't know this movie was widely hated. :(
Yeah, it kind of has the same reputation as Treasure Planet or The Black Cauldron, in that they're not movies that Disney typically tries to do and that they aren't regarded as well as the classics.
The Black Cauldron was one of my favorite Disney movies growing up. ):
To add to that, The Hunch Back of Notre Dame, while still closer to the style of the more popular Renaissance animated Disney films, never seemed to get too great of a reception from critics and even Disney fans alike, when it really deserves a lot more credit than what it has ever gotten. I believe that it just has the misfortune of being released at the wrong time, when people weren't ready for a much darker type of Disney film like it, and it probably left a bad taste in people's mouth at the time. That's just a theory, but I can't help but feel that a bunch of people have an unfair bias towards this movie for some sort of reason like that.
I like the Black Cauldron, too. But I also like most "dark age" Disney films as much as the "classic" ones.
I hope that Mort is a step in the right direction for Disney when it comes out.
As much as I liked PATF and Tangled, I think they can rightfully take a break from fairy tales for a while, and I'd like to see them try another more action-based film again. Mort seems like a possibility to do for them what Black Cauldron and Treasure Planet couldn't.
Quote from: Avaitor on February 15, 2011, 11:07:49 PM
I hope that Mort is a step in the right direction for Disney when it comes out.
As long as they do their best to translate Pratchett's humor from prose to screen, it most certainly will.
He's doing commercials again (http://nostalgiacritic.blip.tv/file/4801213/), and it's glorious again.
I think the Critic has been a little hit or miss lately, but this is easily the best review he's done in a while. I would love to see him do more commercials but I'm afraid he might have peaked on this set.
To be perfectly honest I was pleasantly surprised by his review of The Lost World. I easily find it to be his best review of the year so far, and while that's not saying much considering that we're still in February, I personally found it to be one of the best reviews that he's done so far counting all the way back through the past 6 months or so, at the very least.
Anyone here watch Todd in the Shaodws? He reviews bad pop songs, and is pretty good at it.
His latest one is very good. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/tis/tpsr/29973-ep-17-qtonightq) I mean, damn.
I watch those on occasion, whenever someone posts it. He railed a lot on Kesha last year, not that that's really hard to do.
(shit, still need to watch the commercials NC).
Yeah, he got down on her a bit. He really seems to hate Bieber, though. And I think it's warranted.
i don't know if I told you this, but Rissa has recently become a Belieber, so I have to deal with him more than I want to. We occasionally go on TinyChat, and the last time we did, she played some of his music to mess with me, and I nearly banged my head on the desk.
I think she is pretending to be more of one than she really is to mess with me and the admin on the board we go to, because he really resents Bieber for dating Selena Gomez. But everyone who sees that movie becomes a fan, and it's annoying. I think it brainwashes everyone who goes to it, which explains why there are so few bad reviews of it.
What's worse, my (older) sister wants to go see it too. And I have to deal with her all week now.
Ugh. Sorry, just can't stand the guy.
Well, I don't have a little sister, and despite the sterotype, most people in the Navy aren't gay, so I thankfully don't have to hear Beiber. I see him or his image on occasion, but really I don't love him or hate him, he's just kinda there.
Don't worry though, he'll fade away, eventually. After all, it was only a couple of years ago that The Jonas Bros were the big thing, and now where the hell are they?
They still have a following, but it's not as big now as it was a couple of years ago after Kevin got married, Joe proved himself to be a bad boyfriend with Demi and Taylor Swift and an asshole without them, and Nick did some side project no one liked.
So two out of three of them ruined their chance to be popular with the ladies, and no one cares about the other one. Not to mention there's Bieber for girls to fall for now.
...fuck, I know too much about this shit.
On another note, has anyone seen the past 2 NCs?
I loved his Inspector Gadget review. I used to watch the original as a kid since Nick used to show repeats of it until the mid-90's, but I hated that movie. Even at age 8, I thought it was stupid as shit, and the review reminds me of why. Doug really ripped into it and got some good laughs out of it.
And then he did another Old vs New with the original Karate Kid and the recent remake. To be honest, although I did watch the original as a kid, it wasn't a film that I particularly loved more than others and haven't seen it ages. Meanwhile, I wasn't expecting much out of the new one, but when I went to see it, was surprised at how much I liked it. It's a solid kids flick that works surprisingly well for older viewers as well.
I can't tell whether I agree with the Critic or not on this review since it's been so long since I watched the original, but I did think that the remake being so straight forward did hurt it a little, and that since the new one didn't fix the old one's cliches that he called out, I think that might hurt it rather than help it win.
I'll just let it slide for now since I should rewatch the original soon.
Watch Karate Kid Part 2. It adds to the original really well.
The new one is just a rehash.
Quote from: Desensitized on March 09, 2011, 06:42:37 PM
Watch Karate Kid Part 2. It adds to the original really well.
The new one is just a rehash.
I disagree completely. Really, people never want to admit it, but even as someone who enjoys the original Karate Kid, its not by any means a well-made film. The NC hit the nail on the head with how the over-the-top elements of the film took you out of the experience. Its more like a poor man's version of Rocky when you get down to it, but people let nostalgia make it think its a masterpiece. Also, the 2nd film adding to the 1st film is not a very good argument since the first film should really be able to stand on its own. And rehash or not, the NC also had a point that the original was filled to the brim with cliches to begin with. Also, I've seen the 2nd film recently, and despite the fact that I actually (personally) like it better than the 1st film (yeah, I know that I'm alone on that one), it still suffers from quite a few of the same problems, though I have to give it credit for being a much less cliche story.
On the other hand, the new film really actually could have been better if it wasn't holding itself back trying so hard to emulate the cliche elements of the original story. Jaden Smith sucked, IMO (I'm definitely not as lenient towards his performance as the NC was), but I do feel that the "writing" for his character was handled better than the original film (though, Macchio's performance really nailed his character, which is why it comes off much better overall), which the NC pointed out in how he seemed to "get" his teachings better than Daniel did in the original film.
And as for Mr. Miyagi, while he's certainly a more iconic character than Mr. Han, I have to also agree that Mr. Han was a much more interesting character, precisely because of his flaws.
The remake is a rehash in terms of story, but that applies for pretty much all remakes. But in terms of execution, its honestly a better-made film, IMO, due to being much more consistent and with a bit more complexity to its characters. This is coming from a completely neutral perspective, since I don't think that either of the 2 films are great, but I think the fact that I wasn't so nostalgically linked to the original film helped me appreciate the remake, more.
Plus, while I haven't had the opportunity to see that many, I LOVE old-school martial arts films, and I really do feel that Jackie Chan being the mentor in the new film really means a lot due to his particular filmography (and I'm not talking about the shitty American films that most people seem to know him from). Though, to correct the NC on one point, JC doesn't really know real martial arts that well. He specializes as a stage performer, and he's more of a comedian among martial arts stars because his gimmick back in the day after the wake of Bruce Lee was adding an element of comedy into his performances and his fight scenes. While I'm not a fan of him, Jet Li actually is someone who knows a good deal about real martial arts in real life, as well as Donnie Yen.
Is it just me or does the Critic pick new films a lot more than he does older ones? I mean, besides Karate Kid 2010, he also chose Prince of Egypt over 10 Commandments, Eddie Murphy over Jerry Lewis, and Jackson's LOTR over Bakshi's.
Some of these I understand, but since he's the Nostalgia Critic, you'd expect him to go with older films a little more. This does show Doug's ability to do serious film criticism and is a nice change of pace from his usual works, which is good. These videos aren't as funny as his usual ones, which is why their mileage varies. Every once in a while, they're really interesting to watch.
This one's for Desen. (http://nostalgiacritic.blip.tv/file/4889615/)
I'm too lazy to link to it right now, but in case anyone hasn't seen it yet Doug has done a video with a list of his top 15 comedic influences. I can't remember the entire list now, but I do remember that I liked most of what was on his list, like Dave Chapel, Bill Murray, Mel Brooks, and so on, but the most important thing is that his list also included Animaniacs, South Park, the Goofy and Tom and Jerry cartoons died for a single spot, and Daffy Duck was #1 on the list, and I don't think that anybody in their right minds can disagree with that. ;)
I hate Monty Python with a fiery passion, but it's a great list.
Tons of good stuff on there, and a lot of his listings make sense.
Hmmmm....I've always enjoyed Monty Python, personally, but it was never something that I quite loved as much as most people seem to. In terms of British comedies, though, I have definitely seen much better, but I still must admit that MP has given my my laughs when it counts.
I wouldn't say Monty Python is overrated or bad, but I would say that's it overplayed. Jokes stop being funny when you hear them over and over and over and over and over.
Well, MP has been hugely overplayed to me before I watched any of it. After seeing the movies and a bunch of the show, I just didn't get it, and the fact that I still see Python referenced everywhere annoys me greatly.
I don't know, I've never seen it being so hugely popular that its referenced just about everywhere. Actually these days its not talked about all that much anymore.
As for not getting it, that's fine, since comedy or any other genre can mean different things to different people. I'm sort of the same way with Kevin Smith movies in how I still can never really "get" them, in that I still can't understand their appeal. Just for the record, though, that doesn't mean that I think that they are bad, but I just really don't see the entertainment value from any of his work myself, personally. Well, I have seen him do some stand-up before which was actually pretty funny, I believe, but I don't think he does it that often to begin with.
I like some of Kevin Smith's movies; the ones with more focus and actual storylines (no matter how stupid they may be), especially Dogma and Chasing Amy. Never really saw the appeal in stuff like Clerks, though.
Sounds like me and Beavis & Butthead. It's just something I just plain don't get, even though I've tried.
Clerks' appeal to me has always been about how I related to the main characters. If you don't relate, I can't see how you would enjoy it.
I guess it just depends on the people you know. Monty Python and Kevin Smith are pretty popular with nerdy people, like who I hang out with, but your average Joe probably doesn't give either one of them much of a thought.
Oh, and I've been wanting to make a thread about Smith, but I don't like how I make almost every thread on the movie board. I was going to discuss how progressively worse he is getting with his Q&A's, in that he can spend plenty of minutes on one subject, alternating between random points that go nowhere.
He's been like that since his earliest ones, but he's become a lot worse ever since he became a stoner. The Showtime special was especially pathetic.
He's repeating material a lot, too.
Yep.
You know what, fuck it. I'll make a thread now.
Quote from: Desensitized on March 21, 2011, 10:30:09 PM
He's repeating material a lot, too.
And he fucks up when it comes to writing other things, like Batman for instance.
NC has a new Raiders of the Lost Story Arc up, the first 2 episodes of X-Men. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/30474-the-x-men-cartoon)
Even though I'm not really a fan of the series anymore, I enjoyed this. I do wish he did at least look over the next 2 episodes as well, since I had the Pizza Hut tap with those episodes and used to watch it semi-regularly. Still, it was a fair look over of the first 2 episodes, and he got through everything that mattered there.
To be honest, I felt like he kind of missed the point of Little Nemo. When you see the movie, you KNOW that they purposely made it incoherent.
I like the movie. I saw it long ago, and rewatched it last year. Agree with him on the beginning though. It was a little boring.
Haven't updated this in a while, have I?
Well, I am now since he finally did it! (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nostalgia-critic-duck-tales-5415369) So far, I'm loving it, and you should be watching it as well.
The NC listed up his top 11 favorite BTAS episodes in this (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nostalgia-critic-the-top-11-batman-the-animated-series-episodes-5473475) video.
Its his opinion so I can't really argue about his personal preferences since its not a "best" list or anything like that, but while I like top 2 episodes he picked, I don't really consider either of them top 10 material, personally. Meanwhile, my personal favorite episode just barely made the number 11 spot, but I'm OK with it since it still got mentioned by him.
Personally I would have put Heart of Ice and Two-Face in the top 3, but I am glad to see that Trial made it there. I don't necessarily think it really even deserves to be ranked that high, but until now I thought I was one of the only few people who really loved that episode for its surreal nature and the issues revolving around Batman that it brought up. Its such an underrated episode, IMO.
I do think that, whether its his personal opinion or not, Mad Love is criminally low on the list. To me its a top 5 at the very least, no matter who you are.
I was a bit disappointed to see that House and Garden didn't make the list, but then again that episode may be a bit too much for some people, but I personally loved it.
Overall its a pretty good list, though, and he explains each of his choices quite well, so I decided to link to this video since its probably the most interesting NC video that I've seen in months, to be honest (most of his stuff has been mediocre for the most part, over the past year or so, IMO).
11- Classic episode. Glad to see it here. Not sure where it'd make it on my list, but I'd probably put it a couple of slots higher.
10- I always found this to be a cute episode. Not among my favorites, but I really got a kick out of it.
9- Oh man, top 5 for sure for me. This tops even "Over the Edge" as the best TNBA ep for me.
8- Probably my favorite Penguin episode overall. Not saying much, since he's my least favorite Batman villain, but I think this worked well for his character.
7- I'd put this in the top 5, although I'm not as big on it as most people are. It's a really well done origin story, and probably the most memorable two-parter from the show. The second isn't as good as part one, but it holds up in repeat viewings.
6- One of the few times a dream ending works, I actually think the ending was close to perfect. A really hardcore ep.
5- Easily one of the series best. Definitely in my top 5, maybe in my top 3.
4- My top choice personally. This is why the show outranked The Simpsons on our list. That, and the last decade or so of that show.
3- I used to really dislike this one, but it's warmed up to me. I think it could have been handled a little better, but it's a fun one all the same.
2- You know, I really like this one myself. Not sure if it's top 2 material, but it's Doug's list, and I think it's cool to see it on here.
1- Might just be my #2 choice. Can't argue about it here.
Really good list. I don't agree with all of it, but I approve.
I still watch NC every week, and still enjoy some of his stuff. But this and the DuckTales review are the ones I recommend you all check out.
The closest we'll get to a DBZ review. (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/kyle-hebert-is-an-a-hole-5489279)
Best. Episode. Ever.
Holy shock jock.
Doug talks about reviews he'll never do. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/32216-top-11-nostalgia-critics-i-will-never-do)
Considering that he confessed that he doesn't want to do TV show reviews if he didn't grow up watch them or do "so bad it's good" movies, I hope he'll apologize for his Nick Month and The Room reviews soon.
Also, who the fuck keeps on suggesting A Goofy Movie and Cats Don't Dance? Or Watership Down and The Brave Little Toaster?
Quote from: Avaitor on August 29, 2011, 06:49:18 PM
Doug talks about reviews he'll never do. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/32216-top-11-nostalgia-critics-i-will-never-do)
Considering that he confessed that he doesn't want to do TV show reviews if he didn't grow up watch them or do "so bad it's good" movies, I hope he'll apologize for his Nick Month and The Room reviews soon.
Also, who the fuck keeps on suggesting A Goofy Movie and Cats Don't Dance? Or Watership Down and The Brave Little Toaster?
Or
Killer Klowns?
*Cricket Noises*
... What?! It was funny! :gonk:
So besides the admittedly crappy Let's Play he did last week, NC tries to rebound with a review for James and the Giant Peach. (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nostalgia-critic-james-and-the-giant-peach-5550982)
I've always had a love/hate relationship with this movie, and for the most part, I agree with his review. Gorgeous animation that doesn't quite save a weak script or soundtrack. Nightmare and Coraline are much better.
Doug has been assimilated. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/ask-thatguy/32441-episode-63)
I actually found the Howie Mandel gag slightly funnier, tbh. 'Tis not the point, though.
HE'S A BRONY. I KNEW IT. :awesome:
Here (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/32657-dougs-favorite-tv-shows) are Doug's videos listing his top 20 favorite TV shows.
I was rather surprised by his top 2 choices, but I think that Desensitized would be quite fond of his #2 choice and I know that Avaitor loves the show that he picked as his #1 favorite.
One of my all-time favorite shows only made it around #17 on his list (if I remember the placment correctly), but its an extremely well-renowned show as it is, and it was just nice to see it on his list all the same.
His number 5 choice was a partial surprise to me (and you'll know what I mean by "partial" when you get that part of the list), but I agreed with him as far as placing the show I did actually watch in that spot.
Of course, both The Simpsons and BTAS were obvious choices on his list.
Its also nice to see that South Park made it into his top 10, which somewhat surprised me (I expected it to be there on his list, but not in the top 10). It looks like I'm not the only one who disagrees with the people who think the show has been complete shit lately. Really I think sometimes people just make way too much of a generalization on his overall quality just because its been going on for so long, but honestly its more hit or miss than it is a complete miss, in its current state. Its certainly not anywhere near godawful and some people make it out to be, though.
Yeah, just finished it.
20- My grandfather loves this show, but I can't stand it. Never have been able to.
19- I'd probably put it here on my list as well. I'm in the "Seinfeld is overrated" camp, but it's a great show.
18- You know, I've really been getting into this show lately. I like how emotional it can get at times, be it heartfelt or heartless. It's hard to find a TV-MA comedy with as much heart as this.
17- Classic. Would be higher on my list, but it's not mine.
16- Bleh.
15- Before my time, and no chance to watch it. This seems like a pretty cool show form how he's talked about it, though.
14- Never watched it. Maybe I'll check some of it out in the near future, I dunno
13- Eh, I never really got to see much of this show, and I didn't like what I have seen.
12- Sorry, but I'd take That 70's Show over this any day. But it isn't a bad series.
11- Anyone can see this coming. :P You'd figure that it would make his top 10, though.
10- You know, at the end of the day, #10 is a pretty good spot for a list like this. If the past decade+ didn't exist, it should be higher, but definitely deserves a fairly high spot like this.
9- I don't really agree with him that the show is getting better as it goes along, but hey, it's his list, and it does still have some great moments today.
8- Never heard of it, and really, British sitcoms aren't my thing.
7- Fair enough. I've been wanting to get more into it myself.
6- One day, I'll give this a chance. Not sure when, though.
5- Huh, interesting tie. Love Bebop, and have been meaning to check out Wolf's Rain.
4- Another unsurprising choice. Great place, too.
His bit on Batman Beyond, though, wtf?
3- Like #6, this isn't my favorite kind of thing, but something I've been meaning to try out. Again, some day.
2- Was not expecting it to make it here, but why not? It's a great show.
1- Man, I love this show. I honestly think it is still my favorite animated sitcom, even above KOTH, Simpsons, and Archer.
While I haven't seen enough of it to be sure if its all as great as he says it is, I could see mysel agreesing on Black Adder's placement if the rest of the series that I haven't watched was up to par with season 2 (which is the only season of the show that I have watched....well, most of it, anyways). The actors fit their roles perfectly and while the writing for the jokes and dialogue is funny enough as it is, the perfect timing and delivery that the actors bring to the table in their performances just makes the comedy that much more hysterical. I'll definitely be checking out more of this series when I get the chance.
As or South Park, I also disagree with Doug that its been getting better as it goes along, but I also disagree with the people who like to believe that its gone to shit. I think its not quite as good as it was in its prime as some episodes can be pretty stupid and groanworthy, and not the least bit funny, but more often than not I find that most episodes in a season can at the very least get a chuckle out of me, and at least half the time I get some really good laughs out of the episodes that have aired in the most recent seasons. Hell, even in the most recent episodes I have found quite a few episodes that have some considerable re-watch value to them, and while I'm not sure if I'll look back on any of them as classics a few years from now, at least they are good enough to not have to be subject to feeling too dated later on in time.
So, The Distressed Watcher was finally dropped from Channel Awesome, and Neo Ultra Mike provided the reason why as well as an enlightening explanation for why he lasted so long.
QuoteMike Ellis and of course the Distressed watcher. Why mention them together? Because the former's firing is eventually the reason why the later was let go. Based on what DW said in his youtube video he was friends with Ellis once DW was on the site who would often joke with him and talk some smack about some of the other contributors. (Like Linkara for instance). Eventually Ellis was let go in August 2010 and since he was a CEO of Channel Awesome and one of the original founders I presume it was more then just talking bad of people, but they haven't exactly said why. Anyway after Ellis was let go TJ eventually found his videos getting a "lower" placing then they normally did on the schedule. See on most daily TGWTG you get seven new videos. And DW (aka TJ) said his was always like 4 or 5 out of 5 or 6. And then they started becoming 5 or 6 out of 6 or 7. And because they were getting a lower placing, the views were apparently dropping some. Which dosen't really make sense to me as if you liked the guy you would of seen his videos anyway and watched them as it dosen't matter whose really placed on the schedule, but that's the story he stuck with.
And with the lower views he started to become lazier with his weekly videos and started putting less and less effort into them and thus the quality started to noticably drag. Ones that not only noted him less views but also more hate and flames. Channel Awesome actually had to stop him from uploading one of his planned videos (Top 10 gayest music videos) due to the fear that video would get him flammed by pretty much everyone. That along with commerical companies not wanting to put their ads in TJ's vids eventually led to him getting fired. He was actually let go in July but had till September to post videos and even explain to everyone what happened and promote his new site (that he wants to make to compete with TGWTG) but due to disinterest he stopped making videos in July and a couple of weeks ago his videos disappeared off the site. so yeah that's the story of what happened to him more or less.
Wasn't this Mike guy the same one who posted on TZ for a bit?
There are two Mikes at Channel Awesome, IIRC. I can't say I feel too sorry for either of these guys, though. Especially DW who was the worst thing on the site by far.
Yeah, the other Mike is Mike Michaud who actually admins the site and who I gave the info for Titanic Animated to give to Doug.
So yeah, different guy.
Yeah, can't say I feel bad about Amazing Atheist getting kicked out. From what I heard, even the other reviewers like Lindsay and Film Brain thought he was a douche.
As for good reviewers, anyone seen some of Brows Held High? I've been watching a lot of his videos, and they're shockingly good for a relative newcomer to the site. A fine sight to see someone make fun of arthouse flicks.
What pissed me off the most about DW wasn't how he basically bashed almost anything he reviewed (after all, a lot of people on the site do that anyways), but how fucking mean-spirited he was about it and how seriously he took it. He went as far as to insult anyone who liked said stuff as if they were horrible people and in one of his reviews he said something along the lines of anyone who likes Bay's Transformer movies needs to be put in Death Camps and tortured for their incompetence, or something of the sort, which is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard. Whether a film or product or anything is good or bad, the idea is to have fun making fun of it, not act like a total douche and insult anyone who disagrees with your opinion. And that's the other thing that ticks me off about that guy, he's so obnoxious that he clearly believes that he is right about everything he thinks. Seriously, the site is better off without him.
Anyways, to be honest I couldn't ever really get into any other video series on the site (unless you count JO, but even then I don't really watch her most recent output only because I'm not interested in a radio drama), as most other reviewers that I tried just kind of bored me and didn't seem that funny at all. Doug's videos are basically the only ones that I go to watch there, anymore.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on October 10, 2011, 03:58:18 PM
He went as far as to insult anyone who liked said stuff as if they were horrible people and in one of his reviews he said something along the lines of anyone who likes Bay's Transformer movies needs to be put in Death Camps and tortured for their incompetence, or something of the sort, which is one of the stupidest things I've ever heard.
And didn't Doug say he liked Revenge of the Fallen? That's gotta be pretty awkward.
Yeah, I actually kind of like some of the other reviewers (even more than Doug, at some points). Nash is pretty cool, Lindsay and Nella have some decent chemistry, Cinema Snob is usually in top form when he has a really bad exploitation flick to mock, Linkara is all right when he isn't focusing on cosplaying as a Power Ranger and LARPing with Iron Liz, JO's quite good when she updates, and like I said, Oancitizen is pretty well-read and interesting to hear.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on October 10, 2011, 04:00:22 PM
And didn't Doug say he liked Revenge of the Fallen? That's gotta be pretty awkward.
Actually, he said that he liked the first Transformers movie while fully acknowledging how cheesy it is and how poorly written it is. He said that he didn't like Revenge of the Fallen but he didn't hate it with a passion either like other people did (I think he was just more indifferent to that one than anything else).
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on October 10, 2011, 02:22:03 PM
Yeah, can't say I feel bad about Amazing Atheist getting kicked out. From what I heard, even the other reviewers like Lindsay and Film Brain thought he was a douche.
As for good reviewers, anyone seen some of Brows Held High? I've been watching a lot of his videos, and they're shockingly good for a relative newcomer to the site. A fine sight to see someone make fun of arthouse flicks.
Doesn't surprise me. Isn't Nostagia Chick a Christian? I know Linkara and CR are but I'm not sure with her. That'd be almost doubly awkward.
And yeah, I've seen a couple of Oancitzizen's episodes. I have to watch his other episodes soon, but I'm glad I'm not the only noted fan of his. He can be pretty funny when he wants to be, and he comes off as extremely classy and sophisticated rather than obnoxiously pretentious the way other arthouse critics can be. He, along with Todd in the Shadows and CR (of Familiar Face) are still the best new talent they have.
I like Bella too. The Chick found a secret ingredient into making her show more better there.
I actually think the Nostalgia Chick is funnier then the Critic... It's just that the movies she reviews are far less amusing, and she's constantly involving her friends which takes up too much of the spotlight in my opinion.
Really? I can barely stand Lindsay herself, and her retrospectives suck, like the Titanic and Disney Princess ones.
Quote from: Avaitor on October 10, 2011, 08:00:15 PM
Really? I can barely stand Lindsay herself, and her retrospectives suck, like the Titanic and Disney Princess ones.
I don't know. Even though I like him, I actually don't think the Critic is THAT funny. I mean, anyone can make a funny review when talking about something as bad as the Titanic animated movies. But I can think of plenty other internet series I'd rather watch. That's just me, anyway.
Doug isn't the funniest guy alive, but his subjects are usually worth a look, and he make some good points and references more often than not.
More so than Lindsay, at least.
Doug's reviews don't really quite make me laugh out loud on a regular basis, but they are usually entertaining enough for me to sit through and I do at least get a chuckle out of some of his better jokes.
Not that I have anything against Lindsay, but I find her reviews to be pretty boring, personally. I don't really find them the least bit funny and while I respect her input on the stuff she reviews, the problem is that she typicall never does much to make me care about what she is reviewing (whether it is good or bad), and thus I just get bored of watching her videos before they are even over. That's just me, though, as I know that she has a fan base of her own so obviously she does still have her audience out there, which I can respect.
I will say that I downright can't stand Benzaie, though. Once again, I don't mean that I have anything against him personally, but I fail to see the appeal of his videos or how anyone finds them the least bit amusing, let alone actually funny or interesting. I also got an even more negative opinion of him once he dissed the entire Ninja Gaiden series just becuase he didn't like the way that Metroid: Other M turned out (and based on his comments I doubt he even knows that the fuck he's talking about, as its obvious that he's never played a Ninja Gaiden game in his life, or at least not the 3D ones).
Fair enough.
What is you guys' favorite review of the Critic?
I'm typically partial to his reviews of movies or TV shows that I remember watching at some point, like Full House, Kazaam!, Space Jam, and the DiC cartoons. I also really like his Raiders of the Lost Story Ark episodes, and I wish he'd do more of them.
I don't like most of his collaborations, but I love the Coming Out of Our Shells video review with the Nerd. I think they both had a strong bond with each other that really worked.
Quote from: Avaitor on October 11, 2011, 09:14:10 AM
I'm typically partial to his reviews of movies or TV shows that I remember watching at some point, like Full House, Kazaam!, Space Jam, and the DiC cartoons. I also really like his Raiders of the Lost Story Ark episodes, and I wish he'd do more of them.
I don't like most of his collaborations, but I love the Coming Out of Our Shells video review with the Nerd. I think they both had a strong bond with each other that really worked.
I like pretty much all the ones here. I'm also a big fan of Red Sonja. Not a lot of people seem to remember that here, but I thought it was hilarious. The animated Titanic ones were gold too.
I decided to rewatch Red Sonja along with the Conan reviews when the new movie came out. It does hold up a little better than I remember. I don't think it's a favorite, but I do like it.
And the Titanic reviews are great.
Oh, I'm flat-out addicted to that site. Every week, I can't wait for the latest reviews by Nostalgia Chick, Phelous, Obscurus Lupa, and Oancitizen. I also LOVE Pushing Up Roses, I enjoy Welshy's videos (well- I usually only watch his horror reviews but I like those a lot), and every now and then enjoy a good Nostalgia Critic review but to be honest, yeah he's dropped in my rank of favorite videomakers for the site.
So, Doug's 1st Movie (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nostalgia-critic-doug-s-first-movie-5698124) is this week's review. The reason that I posted this up in particular is because surprisingly I found this to be his funniest review in a while. Most of the NC's output has been passable or just OK for the past year or so, but something about this review really just got me laughing out loud, and it felt very much like a classic NC review in terms of its humor. This one really entertained me, and to me its the best review he's done in a long time.
I agree, it's by far his best in a while.
I think Doug's blind hatred for the show sells it, and the awkwardness of the movie in particular helps to make for a great experience. I haven't seen the movie in years, but I forgot just how weird it was.
Conversely, The Cell.
Why?
I remember saying this on Twitter; it wasn't suited at all for him. NC's been at that point where he's just been reviewing obscure kids movies that nobody heard about even when they were on theaters, and he managed to go narrower. The Doug review was the first time in a while I laughed at his stuff mostly because it was something I was nostalgic for (as well as his crazed hatred toward it). Here, it just feels kind of phoned in.
Exactly. The movie seems like Cinema Snob or Obscurus Lupa territory, not Nostalgia Critic. He really doesn't seem to fit in doing things that aren't in his repertoire like this or his Let's Play.
On top of that, a lot of his basic reviews lately just aren't that funny. I honestly wouldn't mind if he took a small break or something to maybe find better things to review or get some air. I think he could probably use it.
I think one of the Critic's main problems is that he tends to drag out jokes way too long. He'll say something funny and I'll laugh... but then he keeps the joke going and it'll totally wear out it's welcome. It just becomes awkward.
Another thing is that he, like the Angry Video Game Nerd, is kind of a visual artist. But unlike the Nerd, he doesn't seem to realize it. So for moments where a look can sum up the horrendous of a film, he'll just go on a lame rant.
Just my thoughts. He's still funny though.
You know, while I have a lot of respect for James Rolfe and love most of his output....his Nerd videos are now actually my least favorite thing that he does. I mean, I used to like them a while ago, but upon re-watching some of his "classic" episodes, I'm wondering just what the hell I found funny about those? I mean, he's had some good jokes and some funny reactions from strange stuff he witnesses in crappy games, but 90% of his Nerd videos ARE extremely long rants with excessive cursing and pointless toilet humor. I mean, that's not funny, its just cursing a lot and using disgusting imagery, and it actually makes Rolfe seem less sophisticated than he really is, though I guess that's part of the point. As far as I'm concerned, though, I'd easily take a film retrospective video or Monster Madness month over his Nerd videos any day, personally. That's just my opinion, though. As I said, I still adore pretty much all of Rolfe's other video output and I'm glad that he does way more of that now than actual Nerd videos. Though I do respect his efforts in making the AVGN movie and hope that it goes well for him and that fans who enjoy his Nerd videos enjoy the feature-length film. As for me, though, I think I'll just stick to Monster Madness and such.
Huh, forgot that Metallo and Kaznia were hinted to in the third episode. (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nostalgia-critic-superman-the-animated-series-5739415)
And Bruce Timm needs a girlfriend.
I really like his Raiders of the Lost Story Arc episodes. Those are always very interesting to me, since I'm familiar with all the shows he's used thus far.
And watching this makes me want to pull out my STAS DVDs now.
Have I mentioned that I hate this song? (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/sexy-and-i-know-it-a-pop-song-review-5757152) Because I do.
Hilarious review.
Okay, he reviewed Moulin Rouge! (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nostalgia-critic-musical-review-moulin-rouge-5779610).
I've actually grown to really appreciate this movie, so I'm not sure how I'm going to like this review.
Despite bearing no ill will toward Moulin Rouge, I quite liked it.
I never watched Moulin Rouge and I'm only watching this review for Brentalfloss.
It was actually not as bad as I was expecting. I think the movie's a little better than they give it credit for (it has it's fair share of script problems, no question, but the sheer audacity and skill put into the production of the film is worth plenty of merit, and the musical sequences work more often than not), but they raise a lot of good points throughout.
I can even tolerate the Critic's use of overcrowding this reviews with guest reviewers this time, due to the exceeded length and subject matter to tackle. Although having 3 reviewers was pushing it a little.
Have I seen Moulin Rouge? I can't remember, really. I'm familiar with "Come What May" from it though, which is an awesome song.
Ouch!
I'd like to hear some responses. I'm assuming some, if not most, of the people here have seen the Critic's video on The Lion King? He made some pretty big claims there, about the movie's storyline supposedly conflicting with the message it's trying to get across. And we all love Lion King, so I'd like to hear what some of you guys think. Is he right? Is he missing wrong? Is he just totally missing the point, like he's always done with Scar? :P
He did a video on TLK? When was this? I figured that'd be one of those movies he would've refused to do.
Quote from: SNES Chalmers on December 24, 2011, 08:47:16 PM
He did a video on TLK? When was this? I figured that'd be one of those movies he would've refused to do.
This month he's doing short videos for most of the Disney animated films.
Like I said on tz, if I was doing these videos, I'd be a little more forgiving to The Lion King, and a heck of a lot less forgiving to Beauty and the Beast.
Quote from: Avaitor on December 24, 2011, 10:59:55 PM
Like I said on tz, if I was doing these videos, I'd be a little more forgiving to The Lion King, and a heck of a lot less forgiving to Beauty and the Beast.
What do you think on what he says about the message?
Hard to say, I do see how he has a point with the message(if you don't know what we're talking about, the vid's on here (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/33693-disneycember-part-11). You can find the rest on the TGWTG "Specials" page), but at the same time, I feel that the scene goes by a little too fast to further hit on that point, and could only do so much.
I'm too drowsy to try to make a better argument, but basically I'm on the fence with Doug's point.
Quote from: Avaitor on December 25, 2011, 03:44:39 AM
Hard to say, I do see how he has a point with the message(if you don't know what we're talking about, the vid's on here (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/33693-disneycember-part-11). You can find the rest on the TGWTG "Specials" page), but at the same time, I feel that the scene goes by a little too fast to further hit on that point, and could only do so much.
I'm too drowsy to try to make a better argument, but basically I'm on the fence with Doug's point.
One part of his point that I don't think makes sense is when he mentions how the lions don't back Simba up... I mean, for all they know he DID kill Mufasa. Of course they're in an awkward position.
And I always thought the big part of facing his fears is going back.
Well, everyone has their own opinions, and I can respect Doug's take on the film. It does have its flaws, but while I was always aware of them they were the types of flaws that never really bothered me personally. Plus, Doug clearly shows his bias in how he is so quick to point out TLK's faults, but clearly forgave just about everything TB&TB did wrong, obviously because he prefers that film. Really, for as many faults as he pointed out with TLK (and to be fair, most of them are valid, though there are a couple I really disagree with him on), I could just as easily point out twice as many big problems that any of the other Disney films from that era had, so for all he says about TLK being overrated because it has flaws, its not like the other Disney films were that much more perfect. Also, I really disagree with him that TLK botched its message. In some regards I can see what he's talking about, but I really interpreted that scene which he saw as a flaw quite differently, myself. At any rate, that's just my own opinion, but I love this film. I also love pretty much all of its songs to varying degrees, but there isn't a single one that I dislike. By contrast, I felt that TB&TB's songs were mostly forgettable except for the obvious one.
Anyways, that's all just my opinion.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on December 25, 2011, 08:17:04 PMAlso, I really disagree with him that TLK botched its message. In some regards I can see what he's talking about, but I really interpreted that scene which he saw as a flaw quite differently, myself.
I'm interested in hearing your interpretation.
One problem I have with the movie, and it's actually more of a problem regarding the sequel than the original, is where did all the other Scar loyal lions come from, and where the hell were they during the fight at the end? Throughout the whole first movie all we see is Scar and an endless amount of hyena followers(with of course the three main ones) and that's all that participates in that climactic battle. But then in the second movie a whole new pack of lions shows up, claims they were loyal to Scar, claims that Kovu is the true heir, and claims they were exiled by Simba. But where the fuck did they come from, were they just made up on the spot? To me, I think it would've been better if some of these Scar-loyal lions had shown up in that battle, instead of just a bunch of hyenas.
Quote from: SNES Chalmers on December 25, 2011, 11:32:29 PMBut where the fuck did they come from, were they just made up on the spot?
Pretty much.
Also its important to note that there was song cut from the original but reinstated for the Broadway production (and viewable in storyboard form with the original soundtrack on the blu) called "The Madness of King Scar" which makes it painfully clear Scar doesn't have an heir.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on December 25, 2011, 08:34:34 PM
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on December 25, 2011, 08:17:04 PMAlso, I really disagree with him that TLK botched its message. In some regards I can see what he's talking about, but I really interpreted that scene which he saw as a flaw quite differently, myself.
I'm interested in hearing your interpretation.
I'm still interested in hearing your interpretation, Ensatsu-ken. Partially cause I don't want to think that such a big flaw exists in The Lion King. :P
And to everyone else, I noticed a few have mentioned they could point out just as many flaws in Beauty and the Beast. What are they?
Persistent, aren't we?
Quote from: SNES Chalmers on January 01, 2012, 10:24:13 PM
Persistent, aren't we?
The Critic has pulled me out of my world where Lion King is flawless. I WANT TO GO BACK. :P
Just rewatched his video of The Room. It's even better than I remember.
Blah, he doesn't do the movie justice. No one can.
What's the Room?
Some movie created by some stoned dude called Tommy Wiseau. At least he looks drugged whenever I see a picture of him. This film is basically known as the Citizen Kane of bad movies in the regards that it does almost everything in films wrong.
Like Manos: The Hands Of Fate?
Quote from: Daxdiv on March 14, 2012, 10:55:01 PM
Some movie created by some stoned dude called Tommy Wiseau. At least he looks drugged whenever I see a picture of him. This film is basically known as the Citizen Kane of bad movies in the regards that it does almost everything in films wrong.
You're very welcome, Daxxy. And keep in mind, if you have any problems, talk to me, and I will help you.
Let's go eat HUH.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 14, 2012, 10:56:37 PM
Like Manos: The Hands Of Fate?
Yeah. It's like our generation's version of that movie.
The Room is a seriously great watch with friends. The laughter never ceases.
When I think about it, the only time I ever watched The Room was when Adult Swim airs it during April Fools Day for these past few years. That's where my first exposure to The Room was, not the NC. In fact, I wonder if they're going to do that again this year.
I wouldn't mind, if only because I'd have an actual chance of watching that Master Piece of a film.
I sincerely think that Tommy Wiseau learned English by watching Nicktoons.
- When he says "LET'S GO EAT, HUH", it sounds like he's channeling Skeeter Valentine.
- Often times, his laugh is reminiscent of Oskar Kokoschka
- And slowed down, he could be a dead ringer for Patrick Star
Quote from: Avaitor on March 14, 2012, 10:40:46 PM
Blah, he doesn't do the movie justice. No one can.
But even still, he brings plenty of laughs. :P
Eh, I think NC's review for The Room contains all of his irritating cliches- unnecessary cameos, lame extended gags, ungodly annoying overreacting, etc.
Quote from: Avaitor on March 15, 2012, 02:58:54 PM
Eh, I think NC's review for The Room contains all of his irritating cliches- unnecessary cameos, lame extended gags, ungodly annoying overreacting, etc.
Well yeah, that's what I've been saying for years. The NC isn't that funny. :P
The reason I like his review is cause... well... the movie's funny. Anyone can take a hilariously bad movie and make a funny review out of it.
The problem with the NC is that the style of humor he created has just gotten old and so over-used. Not just by him, but by the numerous other people on his site that basically follow that same review-style formula. Also he now tends to rely WAY too much on stuff like Internet memes and running gags that were never that funny to begin with. I think his earlier reviews are still fairly funny because of 2 main things: They were far shorter than his current episodes, but MUCH better paced as he didn't waste any time and obviously only kept in his best jokes (those videos also avoided dragging on and staying past their welcome), and the other thing that made them funny was strangely enough that they had "less" to them, or rather they were much simpler but benefited from it (that is to say that they weren't crammed with pointless memes and lame running gags). I also find that some of the movies that he chooses to tackle in his more recent reviews to be baffling choices. I mean, when he reviews stuff like The Cell or The Blair Witch Project 2 they just feel totally out of place given the whole concept of what his reviews are supposed to be about. Don't get me wrong, they are bad movies, but they are hardly nostalgic for either him or most people, as those aren't stuff that people remember watching as kids, and its not something that the NC is very good at critiquing in a humorous way. Also, movie choices like those are just bad material to use if you want to make a comedic review.
Now, he DOES still occasionally produce a good and funny video or 2 every once in a while, like with his review of the Doug movie (which really felt close to a classic NC style review, IMO), but overall most of the changes that he has made to his review style over the year have been for the worse, and most of what has stayed the same has just become stale. I suppose its unavoidable in general that the whole NC thing would become tiring, but personally I blame it mostly on his poor choice of movie material to review and his over-reliance on memes and running jokes.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on March 15, 2012, 06:36:06 PM
The problem with the NC is that the style of humor he created has just gotten old and so over-used. Not just by him, but by the numerous other people on his site that basically follow that same review-style formula. Also he now tends to rely WAY too much on stuff like Internet memes and running gags that were never that funny to begin with. I think his earlier reviews are still fairly funny because of 2 main things: They were far shorter than his current episodes, but MUCH better paced as he didn't waste any time and obviously only kept in his best jokes (those videos also avoided dragging on and staying past their welcome), and the other thing that made them funny was strangely enough that they had "less" to them, or rather they were much simpler but benefited from it (that is to say that they weren't crammed with pointless memes and lame running gags). I also find that some of the movies that he chooses to tackle in his more recent reviews to be baffling choices. I mean, when he reviews stuff like The Cell or The Blair Witch Project 2 they just feel totally out of place given the whole concept of what his reviews are supposed to be about. Don't get me wrong, they are bad movies, but they are hardly nostalgic for either him or most people, as those aren't stuff that people remember watching as kids, and its not something that the NC is very good at critiquing in a humorous way. Also, movie choices like those are just bad material to use if you want to make a comedic review.
Now, he DOES still occasionally produce a good and funny video or 2 every once in a while, like with his review of the Doug movie (which really felt close to a classic NC style review, IMO), but overall most of the changes that he has made to his review style over the year have been for the worse, and most of what has stayed the same has just become stale. I suppose its unavoidable in general that the whole NC thing would become tiring, but personally I blame it mostly on his poor choice of movie material to review and his over-reliance on memes and running jokes.
Yeah, I agree with everything here. Other than the occasional gem (I recently rewatched his Doug review, and it's indeed excellent), his recent reviews just don't compare to his old classics, like Pokemon the First Movie, or Titanic the Animated Movie.
The Critic's at his best when he's subdued. Just listen to his "That's a lot of fish" rant from Godzilla. The whole rant is perfect, but the last part of it ("THIIIIIIIINK!") feels forced.
So recently we've had a new Top 11, an Old vs New last week, and a crossover with Sage that turned out pretty good. Next week is a Raiders of the Story Arc for the first five episodes of Transformers. It's good to see Doug changing things up a bit again finally.
By the way, what do you all think about them going for sci-fi for this year's anniversary? It might turn out okay, but honestly half of Star Trek Month wasn't good, including Linkara's crossover (which sucks considering the Superman IV review was one of the NCs best episodes); so I'm going to remain cautious about this until we see previews.
On that note, what would you guys prefer they do for next year's anniversary and so on? I personally think an easy one that could turn out well would be if they did a road trip style movie, where they have to get to a special event like Comic-Con or an important appearance for a fictional media conglomerate that would get TGWTG.com mainstream attention. Ideally, it would just be The Critic, Linkara, Cinema Snob, Spooney, and/or Todd in the Shadows (since by default they're still the overall best in comparison to the hacks they have) with the Nostalgia Chick and her friends plus the other reviewers trying to stall for them.
I think you all need to see this one. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/35197-alien-resurrection)
Although to be fair, from what I understand, Whedon only wrote the first draft of Resurrection, and that got ripped to shreds. Dunno how much he can be blamed for it.
I liked seeing NC pick apart this movie, though to be honest that's because of how much I detest this movie in general, more than the NC's jokes being really funny, which in my case they were but only because I really just wanted to see him rip the movie to shreds. If I didn't care about the Alien franchise or hadn't seen this movie it'd probably just be an average review to me, but in this case it was fun to watch.
I'm kind of pissed that NC put Gladiator with those other movies of Ridley Scott's as a bad movie, though. I know he hates it, but there's a difference between him hating it and it being bad. Gladiator is great, IMO. The NC can go shove that opinion of his up his ass for all I care. :P
Gladiator>Braveheart
Both are solid, though.
Quote from: Brak's Dad on May 08, 2012, 10:04:45 PM
Gladiator>Braveheart
Both are solid, though.
Disagreed.
I wish he would have tackled Alien 3. Fanfiction has rarely ever been so terrible.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 08, 2012, 10:10:16 PM
Quote from: Brak's Dad on May 08, 2012, 10:04:45 PM
Gladiator>Braveheart
Both are solid, though.
Disagreed.
Agreed. I love Braveheart just a little bit more than Gladiator.
Gladiator clicked a little more for me. Can't really put my finger on why.
We can at least agree that they're both better than Passion, right?
They're both overblown vanity projects with scripts that are the equivalence of nails on a chalkboard. Can't see which is "better".
...as for Alien Resurrection. A meh review. I do find it interesting that Doug took umbridge with everything I find deeply hilarious about that movie.
Quote from: Brak's Dad on May 08, 2012, 10:18:09 PM
We can at least agree that they're both better than Passion, right?
Ugh, Passion...
Quote from: Lord Dalek on May 08, 2012, 10:22:19 PM
They're both overblown vanity projects with scripts that are the equivalence of nails on a chalkboard. Can't see which is "better".
Yeah, I tried watching both films and couldn't get into either. They were just bland to me. Blasphemer.
I'm a sucker for Scotland. I just love the place.
Crouching Tiger should have won it all in 2001.
Quote from: Foggle on May 08, 2012, 10:29:51 PM
Quote from: Brak's Dad on May 08, 2012, 10:18:09 PM
We can at least agree that they're both better than Passion, right?
Ugh, Passion...
Torture porn at it's most
erotic sadistic.
Shakespeare In Love has got to be the most undeserving winner of the Best Picture award ever.
Quote from: Brak's Dad on May 08, 2012, 10:42:21 PM
Quote from: Foggle on May 08, 2012, 10:29:51 PM
Quote from: Brak's Dad on May 08, 2012, 10:18:09 PM
We can at least agree that they're both better than Passion, right?
Ugh, Passion...
Torture porn at it's most erotic sadistic.
But it's all for Gee Zuzz.
You've obviously never seen Cimarron then.
They're dumb action movies. You're supposed to just watch them for the sword fights.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 08, 2012, 10:36:01 PM
I'm a sucker for Scotland. I just love the place.
Hell yeah. :thumbup:
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 08, 2012, 10:43:45 PM
Shakespeare In Love has got to be the most undeserving winner of the Best Picture award ever.
As a
major Tom Stoppard fan, I agree 100%.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 08, 2012, 10:43:45 PM
Shakespeare In Love has got to be the most undeserving winner of the Best Picture award ever.
Yeah that doesn't make sense either.
One of these days I'll go through that Oscar winners video series I talked about before. It'd make for a really interesting watch, I can tell already.
I also think that I would have preferred a review of Alien 3. I think it hurts a lot more since it really fucks with first 2 movies a lot. Alien Resurrection is its own separate thing in many ways, which is why its easier to ignore.
Quote from: Lord Dalek on May 08, 2012, 10:22:19 PM
They're both overblown vanity projects with scripts that are the equivalence of nails on a chalkboard. Can't see which is "better".
Uh, Yeah, I'm just going to ignore this post. :oo:
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on May 08, 2012, 11:15:51 PM
Uh, Yeah, I'm just going to ignore this post. :oo:
I made a similar decision. :thumbup:
Yeah you go do that. I've got Apollo 13 and Traffic to watch.
Also, Resurrection wasn't Whedon's first screenplay. His tiny bit of involvement in Toy Story and the godforsaken Buffy movie came first.
I never knew he had any involvement with Toy Story at all. Did he actually have anything to do with the screenplay for that movie?
Yeah, he helped with some of the dialogue and development from what I understand. He contributed enough to earn a screenwriting credit and an Oscar nomination.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on May 09, 2012, 01:39:58 PM
I never knew he had any involvement with Toy Story at all. Did he actually have anything to do with the screenplay for that movie?
The "More tea, Mrs. Nesbitt" line was his.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on May 09, 2012, 04:56:23 PM
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on May 09, 2012, 01:39:58 PM
I never knew he had any involvement with Toy Story at all. Did he actually have anything to do with the screenplay for that movie?
The "More tea, Mrs. Nesbitt" line was his.
Awesome.
Eh, since I'm in a list making mood
Top 10 Best Picture Winners
10- The Best Years of Our Lives
9- The Bridge on the River Kwai
8- All About Eve
7- Schindler's List
6- All Quiet on the Western Front
5- Amadeus
4- The Godfather/The Godfather Part II
3- Casablanca
2- Lawrence of Arabia
1- The Apartment
Honorable mention goes to The Artist.
Top 5 Least Deserving Winners
5- The Life of Emile Zola
4- A Beautiful Mind
3- The Broadway Melody
2- Cimarron
1- The Best Show on Earth
Most Overrated Winner
On the Waterfront
Winner that Gets the Most Unwarranted Hate
How Green Was My Valley
And just cause, Best Musical Winner
My Fair Lady
A Beautiful Mind was soooo boring. Nothin' beautiful about that one.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 09, 2012, 08:56:03 PM
A Beautiful Mind was soooo boring. Nothin' beautiful about that one.
:)
Quote from: Brak's Dad on May 09, 2012, 08:57:21 PM
Sorry, I hate Brando outside of his work with Coppola.
:(
One more list.
Top 5 Reasons Why the Academy Means Shit
5- Tex Avery never won an Oscar
4- William Powell never won an Oscar
3- Stanley Kubrick was never nominated for an Oscar, let alone won one
2- Cary Grant was never nominated for an Oscar, let alone win a competitive one
1- Alfred Hitchcock never won an Oscar
How long did it even take Paul Newman to get one?
It seems like the Academy spends every year just trying to catch up.
The Academy seems more preoccupied with trying to pick the snobbiest films to win their best awards rather than actually judging films based on....you know, how good they actually are. I've seen a ton of well-made films get snuffed for overrated "artistic" garbage that barely appeals to anyone other than the pretentious ass-holes who make shit like that. I'm looking at you, Out of Africa.
A list of my own...
TOP 10 "WHAT THE HELL WERE THEY THINKING?!?" BEST PICTURE WINNERS
10. The Silence of the Lambs (This doesn't mean it didn't deserve it)
09. Braveheart (seriously, Babe was a better movie)
08. How Green Was My Valley (of course we know exactly what they were thinking as Hearst had practically rigged the awards that year)
07. Crash (and I actually like this movie)
06. The English Patient (even in a year where nearly all the nominees were indie flicks, they still gave it to this boring, maudlin bodice ripper)
05. Shakespeare in Love (major upset does not begin to describe this baffling decision)
04. A Beautiful Mind (OH WE CAN'T GIVE IT TO FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING! THAT WOULD MAKE A WIN FOR RETURN OF THE KING MEANINGLESS!...fuck you guys)
03. Forest Gump (STILL BURNS)
02. Out of Africa (OH NOES! ITZ TEH RACISM!!!)
01. The Greatest Show on Earth (See #9 but replace William Randolph Hearst with HUAC)
Oh god, I forgot about Crash. That should make my worst list. They seriously should've just titled it Everyone's Racist: The Movie.
And I honestly think that if Katzenberg didn't second guess Lion King during its production and gave it more of a push during Oscar season, not only would it have been nominated for Best Picture, it would've won. I don't think that any movie has had the crossover appeal that it has, animated or otherwise.
Quote from: Lord Dalek on May 10, 2012, 07:27:07 AM
10. The Silence of the Lambs (This doesn't mean it didn't deserve it)
I think the movie was great. I forget what else was competing with it for best picture, though, so I'm not sure if there was anything else that deserved it more than this film did, but this is a great film either way.
Quote09. Braveheart (seriously, Babe was a better movie)
I like this movie, but it certainly didn't deserve best picture.
Quote07. Crash (and I actually like this movie)
I hate this movie and still think its one of the worst best picture winners I have ever seen.
Quote04. A Beautiful Mind (OH WE CAN'T GIVE IT TO FELLOWSHIP OF THE RING! THAT WOULD MAKE A WIN FOR RETURN OF THE KING MEANINGLESS!...fuck you guys)
To be fair, I don't think that Fellowship of the Ring deserved to win best picture, either (and I like that movie), but I agree that this film was boring.
Quote03. Forest Gump (STILL BURNS)
I love this movie. It totally deserved to win.
Quote02. Out of Africa (OH NOES! ITZ TEH RACISM!!!)
If Crash was one of the worst best picture winners that I have ever seen, you can go ahead and quote me as calling this the worst best picture winner in history. On top of that I just flat-out don't like any aspect of it as a film. It is by far one of the most boring movies I have ever seen in my entire life, and I have tried to get into it on at least 3 different occasions.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on May 10, 2012, 12:46:13 PM
Quote from: Lord Dalek on May 10, 2012, 07:27:07 AM
10. The Silence of the Lambs (This doesn't mean it didn't deserve it)
I think the movie was great. I forget what else was competing with it for best picture, though, so I'm not sure if there was anything else that deserved it more than this film did, but this is a great film either way.
This. Exactly this. As far as I know, Silence definitely deserved the win.
I have no problem with SOTL winning Best Picture in 92. In fact it might be that rare occasion where they got it dead on. However a lot of people were probably expecting it to be a long shot against JFK or Beauty and the Beast which created the whole wtf factor.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on May 10, 2012, 12:46:13 PM
I love this movie. It totally deserved to--
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NO.
Oh yeah, that's right. Forest Gump and Pulp Fiction came out in the same year. I keep forgetting that people that think that PF got snubbed are burned from Forest Gump. Whatever haters gonna hate, I love Forest Gump as well. Lt. Dan is my favorite character in that movie.
I remember watching Crash once in High School. I was wonder what I was supposed to feel during this movie. Was this movie supposed to make me feel bad about racism existing? I don't get it. I think my least favorite part was when that cop shot that kid in the car and he was just getting out a photo of something dear to him.
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I love this movie. It totally deserved to--
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NO.
I really don't like Pulp Fiction and think that Tarantino is one of the most overrated directors of our time. So yeah, he can go shove that movie up his ass. ;)
No disrespect to Avaitor, though, who I know considers this movie to be his favorite. I just can't get the appeal of it, myself.
That's still the biggest snub in Oscar history to my mind. Or at least it's tied with My Fair Lady beating Mary Poppins.
Biggest Oscar snub for me is In Bruges losing best screenplay to fucking MILK. Get that crap outta' here. :anger:
Milk's a good movie, but not because of the screenplay, which is pretty basic.
Pulp Fiction is a movie that is the classic definition of style over substance.
I like it, but 'Best picture' material? I don't see it.
The English Patient I never understood. I think that Seinfeld episode was pretty dead on with the movie, honestly.
So, the Critic's latest episode was a crossover with Diamanda on Heavy Metal. I tried watching her once and stopped because I didn't care for her shtick, but she was okay here. The review was all right, but most of the Critic's jokes weren't funny. A number of them were just nitpicks disguised as jokes.
I think the reason why I was comfortable with this one despite it not being very funny was because it was decent when Hagan and the Critic gave the movie straight criticism.
I love Heavy Metal, as it has some good animation by early 80s standards (even if it doesn't hold up that well now). But what they said about each story ending right when they feel like they're getting started was spot on.
Yes it's based on an anthology magazine, but that doesn't mean the movie based on it shouldn't have a tighter narrative.
In regards to the end of that video, is that a hint that maybe we'll be getting a crossover between NC and JO sometime down the road? I ask because I would totally want to see that.
They should totally do Akira together.
Not sure if this could also go into it's own thread but...
The NC has put out a list of his Top 11 Simpsons Episodes (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nostalgia-critic-top-11-simpson-episodes-6186499). It's a pretty solid list, and I totally agree with his number one choice, even if it's not my favorite. The episode is probably the best example of emotion in the show, of the characters being more than just cartoon characters and more like real people than the characters in live action sitcoms at the time, and it's at the start of the second season. So yeah, totally agreed.
Nothing on the list past season eight though. :humhumhum: Even all the THOH clips he showed are from season eight or before(except for one shot, at which he even makes a jab at).
Wow, the footage for "22 Short Films About Springfield" looks awful. I guess Doug doesn't own season 7 on DVD.
Huh, I thought #1 was going to be "Lisa's Substitute" based on your post, because I'm stupid like Bart. Honestly, I think that would be a fair top choice itself.
I just saw the NC's review of signs. That's the first genuinely hilarious review of his I've seen in a long time. I was honestly laughing out loud through most of it. Sure, other people have torn the movie apart and picked apart most of the same flaws that the NC just did in this video, but he executes this review quite well regardless, with his own unique spin to the jokes. The NC's sense of humor really works in this review, I suppose, and this is one of the few that didn't feel like it was completely forced to be a half-hour long just to meet some status-quo (granted that it did seem somewhat stretched out, but most of the time it was actually funny to watch rather than just having a single good joke spread between every 5-minute interval).
I agree that his Signs review was good. It's been a while since the Critic went on a really good rant. I think this one was great because you can tell Doug's been waiting to do this one for long time. We practically had a preview of this episode when he did his "Movies I Hate that Everyone Else Loves" list. If Doug could pull of a good review over a popular film like Signs, then I don't see why he shouldn't go after Matilda. Especially since that would mean seeing Mara Wilson's awesomeness again.
You'd think that Doug himself would already be sick of Matilda after his rants and Mara Wilson cameo not that long ago. But hey, if he can do it and has been saving something up, more power to him.
Anyway, I really liked this one too. I actually think that so far, this has been NC's best year in a while.
Hey, have any of you guys heard about Spoony? Because jeez, what a mess..... :wth:
What's up with him?
Crud, was hoping you guys were going to say you already knew. Spoony has been on a downward spiral since his breakup with his girlfriend, and has been stirring crap up on Twitter for a while. At one point, he made a rape joke ( :huh:) about JesuOtaku. Her only response to that was asking him if he was okay. A month later Lupa called him out on it and said she wasn't following him on Twitter.
Yesterday, he got suspended for 4 weeks from Channel Awesome/TGWTG. Their Human Resources released a statement saying it had nothing to do with Lupa or Jesu. Looking trough the threads about it on their site, it sounded like it was actually due to TGWTG fans and other people complaining about him on Twitter. Spoony said he agreed with his suspension, but if you look at his Twitter right now, he's still saying crap and really seems on the verge of a nervous breakdown.
I found out all this from Freakin Awsome Network's forum. Its a real hot mess. :-\
That's crazy, but I can't say I'm too surprised. Spoony never seemed like a very stable guy based on his videos and from what I've heard.
Yeah, it sadly doesn't surprise me either. I've only watched a handful of his videos (none of them very recent), and he always seemed a little off. Spoony is like that one oddball friend most people seem to have. The one who would have your back in a fight one day, and then say crap behind your back or do some really weird or messed up things the next. I have a friend I know who gives off the same kind of vibes as Spoony to me.
And he's gone. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/thenews/35675-a-farewell-to-noah-antwiler-aka-spoonyone-with-ca)
I can't say that I'm surprised.
Eh, I won't miss him too much. I found his work obnoxious more than anything, although I did like his Twilight rants.
http://www.tweettunnel.com/reverse2.php?sn=&textfield=thespoonyone&go=Go
This guy is fucking psycho.
QuoteI'm the motherfucking Spoony
One, you amorphous toilet squirt. This is my
world, and you just live in it.
I think it's safe to say that Spoony's jumped off the deep end.
Da fuck? I remember watching his Phantasmagoria 2 videos and thinking he seemed like an alright guy.
He's gone completely bonkers.
Quote@JesuOtaku Y'know, if things don't work out with you and @Nash076, I'd be happy to chain you to a pipe in my basement and love you. My way.
This is the tweet to JO that got him in trouble.
Wow.
https://twitter.com/TheSpoonyOne/status/216016858262933504 (https://twitter.com/TheSpoonyOne/status/216016858262933504)
QuoteNow that I'm free of behavioral restraints, I'd just like to say, @Welshy_Who, one day I will rape you.
Oh geez. This is just...I don't know what to think now. I never really followed Spoony other than a Twilight rant or two, but it's always distressing to see someone breakdown like this.
I enjoyed his FF playthroughs but never watched any of his other stuff. I knew he'd lose his shit every time something with a girl happened, but I never thought it would go this far. Oh well, I barely even visit TGWTG nowadays anyway, except maybe once every two months to see if anything piques my interest.
I dunno, it's just as if all of them are boring me now.
He needs to turn off his internet and go outside for a while.
Depression and the internet are not a good mix.
QuoteI can beat a cat with a hose, but I can't rape it. Gotcha.
This is not something I wanted to come home to people. This is just FUBAR.
Well lookey here! (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/35807-digimon-the-movie-with-jesuotakuy) :blush:
Watching now.
Man, that review did not disappoint! I always thought that a Digimon Movie review would be the perfect material for a NC and JO crossover episode, and I was right! With the NC it was him bashing the movie from a newcomer's perspective as it makes absolutely no sense to anyone who hasn't seen the show, while from JO's hardcore fan point of view its complete garbage as its narrative has absolutely no sense of cohesion being that it sticks 3 completely separate films together and because it actively creates tons of plot holes both with the show and within itself.
I loved the movie as a kid, but looking back at it without nostalgia glasses, it doesn't really hold up in any conceivable way. In its English form at least. I'm sure if I watch the 3 specials separately in their original, unaltered Japanese, they'd hold up better.
But yeah, the way NC and JO alternate between confused, pissed-off newbie and devoted, pissed-off fanatic works very well, whether you were a fan or not.
Quote from: Avaitor on July 04, 2012, 12:51:16 PM
I loved the movie as a kid, but looking back at it without nostalgia glasses, it doesn't really hold up in any conceivable way. In its English form at least. I'm sure if I watch the 3 specials separately in their original, unaltered Japanese, they'd hold up better.
The first special is a fun little prequel in Japanese. Its only 20-minutes long but its a nice treat for fans of the show. The 2nd special, titled Our War Game in Japan, is excellent. Its easily the best part of the entire Digimon franchise, and I'd completely recommend watching it. The 3rd special I find to be a piece of crap even in Japanese, but that's because it was focused on the less interesting 02 characters and just had a boring plot to begin with. I'd recommend skipping that one entirely.
Why God Why? Why did you remind me Angela Anaconda was a thing that existed? WHY? WHY? WHY?
Still a good review all the way. I think I can finally say with a straight face that I enjoyed a Nostalgia Critic episode in what feels like a year. I can't believe I actually said that. Excuse me, I might have to play League of Legends now.
I actually think this is the best year he's had in a while. Star Trek month was unnecessary, but I've enjoyed more videos he's done since then than I did around this time in the past 2 years.
I've never seen this movie, but what is up with the licensed music in it? Who thought that Barenaked Ladies or Less Than Jake would be a good fit for this? This isn't Max Keeble's Big Move.
They also had the Mighty Mighty Bosstones and LEN.
Quite a bit better than the first Pokemon movie's soundtrack at any rate.
Here's Nostalgia's Critic's Most Awesome Movie Themes:
http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nostalgia-critic-top-11-most-awesome-movie-themes-6247332
Personally, I'd put Pirates at 10 or 11 (and/or replace it with The Empire Strikes Back), put James Bond at 7, and Lord of the Rings at 6; but whatever. His list, his rules. Plus it's a pretty good list, and I absolutely agree with number 1.
My biggest annoyance about the list is the lack of North by Northwest.
Lindsay posted her top 11 flicks. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/team-nchick/nostalgia-chick/35918-lindsays-top-eleven-favorite-movies-of-all-time-this-week) Are you interested? No? Well, here are my thoughts towards her list anyway.
11- Good stuff. Young Frankenstein is my favorite Mel Brooks flick but it's hard to knock this one either.
10- Oh man, this is a crazy film. It's also proof that flash can be used as an artform if done well. I haven't seen it in years though, so I gotta change that.
9- Y'no what, at this point, I'm going to wait for The Hobbit movies before I watch the trilogy in full. Does that sound crazy?
8- I haven't seen it, but I heard good things about it. I do agree that Do the Right Thing is a good film, though!
7- Caught it on TV a few years ago. I got a kick out of it, due to my love for noir/pulp. I haven't seen it since then though.
6- Heh, I never thought about it that way. I just think it's a sick movie. :P
5- Another classic.
4- This flick is pretty weird, but REALLY well done. I really need to rewatch it.
3- Meh. I should probably rewatch this as well though.
2- Pretty close to perfect, IMO.
1- Yeah, you all probably know that this is my favorite Pixar flick. And it's funny, the way she was anticipating and was received this one is exactly how I felt about Avengers. And no, that isn't my #1 right now, although it's somewhere in my top 10.
I'm not crazy on 3, but this is a better list than some of the others I've seen on this site, and there's nothing I dislike as much as Eyes Wide Shut.
Holy crap, the ending of the Baby Geniuses 2 review with all the guys reading 50 Shades Of Gray in different voices might have been the hardest I've laughed in a while.
Its pretty neat that Lanipator and a couple other TFS members got a cameo in an NC video (though I think he's had a couple before, as well).
I myself prefer the BrentalFloss appearance. I kind of got a good laugh out of him and the other guy fighting over which review was the Critic's favorite when he was passed out.
We talked about Linkara in another thread, but I thought I'd bring discussion to this one.
He actually did this issue. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/at4w/35500-at4w-marvel-team-up-74) Hot damn. And if you're not familiar with comic lore, you won't miss anything if you watch this.
I wonder if he'll do the story with the Avengers on Letterman any time soon.
So I'm watching the new NC, and he's having a mental breakdown right now... (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nostalgia-critic-scooby-doo-6305335)
Jesus.
Wow.
Hehe, I actually liked the beginning. Guess he went out for Scooby Doo because it was a request. Good review, and much better than last weeks.
Yeah, why'd he bother with Total Recall? That's a good movie, no way to work around it.
The only thing I liked about this one as a kid was Sarah Michelle Gellar. I never did bother with the sequel. Was it as bad as this?
From what I recall, it was worse. I hate the first one, but I have to admit Scrappy as the villain is actually pretty funny.
Heh, I watched the first one with my parents when it hit home video, and my dad got up partway through the movie and went outside to water the grass. That's how annoying/stupid/plain shitty he found the movie.
My bro got the second one for one of his birthdays and I watched it, but aside from the Taz cameo I don't remember anything from it.
I watched it quite a few years back when it was airing on TV. I thought it sucked, but I couldn't find anything else to watch so I just kept watching it. I have to admit that I was slightly amused at Scrappy being the villain, but yeah, the movie is pretty much dog shit. I never liked the show, but I'd still rather marathon a bunch of those generic and boring "classic" Scooby-Doo episodes (they are at least useful for my insomnia) than watch any of the live-action movies.
To Boldly Flee part 1 is up. Never watched the original Star Trek movies so I'm not sure how much is lifted from the third movie. I'll watch it later.
God I fucking hate Film Brain's accent.
It's even worse in his actual videos though, since he has the need to project his voice in every other line. He has good ideas, but he just sounds unbearable.
"You look like Coolio trick-or-treating as Jack Sparrow"
Now that's a great line
Does anyone else feel a little awkward watching Noah in this special just a couple of months after the controversy that caused him to be dropped from the site? Its not like I was a fan of the guy, and I never even watched that many of his videos, but it still feels a bit strange now that he's been completely dissociated with the rest of the That Guy With The Glasses crew.
Yeah, it is a little strange, especially considering how much self-deprecating humor there is towards him. But there's obviously too much of his stuff that was integral to the plot to cut out.
Part 2's up. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/36340-to-boldly-flee-part-2)
Again, good so far, but the Nostalgia Chick's friends are killing it. Meh.
But wow it's crazy how prominent Spoony is to this thing, as himself and with his other characters.
Yeah, it still feels so weird seeing his various personas featured in this video (and all of which play a prominent role to the plot, at that), while knowing that just recently he got kicked off the site. I guess this anniversary event can pretty much also serve as Spoony's big send-off from the site given that in a way he's practically the star of it. Seriously, if you add up all of the characters which he portrays, he actually ends up having even more screen-time than Doug (at least so far).
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they added more scenes with Spoony in after he decided to leave the site to give him a proper send-off here. Considering his popularity, I can understand why he'd get a more climatic finish to the site than a lot of the other members who quietly get shitcanned or leave.
Quote from: Avaitor on August 27, 2012, 12:23:51 PM
Again, good so far, but the Nostalgia Chick's friends are killing it. Meh.
Haven't seen that video, but I wouldn't be surprised by this. The majority of the Nostalgia Chick's friends can be annoying and take up too much of the spotlight (keep in mind that I'm actually a fan of the Nostalgia Chick, and I'd say she's funnier than the Critic).
Quote from: Avaitor on August 27, 2012, 09:40:11 PM
Yeah, that's what I'm thinking. In fact, I wouldn't be surprised if they added more scenes with Spoony in after he decided to leave the site to give him a proper send-off here. Considering his popularity, I can understand why he'd get a more climatic finish to the site than a lot of the other members who quietly get shitcanned or leave.
Yeah, unlike the other members of the site who were let go, Spoony was actually really popular, and if I'm not mistaken he actually topped Linkara in popularity at one point in time among the big 3 of the site. I also feel that despite his recent outburst that caused him to be forced to leave, Doug and the other members of Channel Awesome had a lot of respect for his contributions to the site so that may be another reason for why they are giving him a good send-off here. That said, this anniversary flick was all filmed well before his breakdown occurred, so it could also just be that he was integral to the plot here and there really wasn't anything that they could do to change that at this point in time.
I know one person said that Spoony's stuff gets way more activity than even Doug, which I kind of find hard to believe. I'm sure that he was, and probably still is, very popular, but from what I understand, people still come to the site by discovering the Nostalgia Critic, even if they stay for just about anyone else.
And as for Lindsay, eh. She has some good ideas, but I can't say that I enjoy her as much as the Critic. She isn't that funny, and I don't like how she adds music into the backgrounds of her videos. Distracts from the video too much. But her friends just aren't that good.
And the Dark Nella stuff? Puh-lease.
I'm not a fan of Lindsay either. Her comedic reviews are just plain unfunny and her more serious reviews simply come off as obnoxious more than anything else, IMO.
Paltridge noted that the Chick rants and raves about her feminist opinions in most of her videos. While I never really take what he says seriously, he does have a point. She does spend a LOT of time talking about the same topics. I think Linkara, a major feminist himself, does it better, since he doesn't needlessly dedicate entire videos to the objectivation of women in media like she does, and even turns the table and calls out when certain writers go too far in their attempt towards feminism.
Anyway, part 3's up (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/36369-to-boldly-flee-part-3). Starting it now.
JO's Ed impression isn't really that good.
But that's her schtick, reviewing female-oriented media. So therefore, it's natural for her to talk about when a show or movie ends up being negative in its portrayal of women.
And besides, she doesn't do it that much. Only like once every other video.
It seems like she does it a lot more. That or I pick all of the videos she does it in.
Quote from: Avaitor on August 29, 2012, 08:36:40 PM
It seems like she does it a lot more. That or I pick all of the videos she does it in.
She didn't really do that in her favorite movies video.
And here's part 5. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/36423-to-boldly-flee-part-5)
"Juno is overrated."
As far as I'm concerned, that's the best line of this whole video, so far. I fucking hate Juno.
Heh, yeah.
And I'm calling it- James Rolfe will make a cameo as Q and either save the day or fuck everything up. Depending on which mood this Q is in.
What do you guys think of his Old vs. New series, and what its best episode is?
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on September 04, 2012, 07:38:11 PM
"Juno is overrated."
As far as I'm concerned, that's the best line of this whole video, so far. I fucking hate Juno.
Amen.
You guys don't think ten minutes of standing in front of a chair on a lawn while drinking a jug of Sunny D is deep?
Well maybe talking fast while spewing pop culture references will fix that.
As well as talking about obscure horror movies with Michael Bluth.
Goddamn arthouse movies. (http://blip.tv/brows-held-high/brows-held-high-the-idiots-6335362)
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on September 06, 2012, 01:48:28 AM
Goddamn arthouse movies. (http://blip.tv/brows-held-high/brows-held-high-the-idiots-6335362)
Fucking Dogme. Now you know why I think LvT is arguably the worst director working today. Even worse than Michael Bay.
Overall, To Boldly Flee has been good. It's better than Kickassia (which fell apart in its second half), and Suburban Knights (which was decent, but dragged in parts). That said, I didn't like Part 6 except of course for Jew Wario's fight with Mechakara. He was funny in this one.
Since next year's anniversary won't be as grandiose as this one, I wonder what they will come up for it.
http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/to-boldly-flee-part-8-6351337
And that's it. To Boldly Flee is done. That was all right. It lost a little steam in the last two parts, but all around I enjoyed it. I wonder if Doug is done with Nostalgia Critic and will review movies as himself, or if this will set up a minor two-parter episode. Either way, I imagine we'll find out in a couple of weeks.
Well, according to this video, Doug is hanging up the character of the Nostalgia Critic. (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/no-more-nostalgia-critic-6353431)
No more weekly reviews as the NC. Guess the Scooby-Doo review was the last one.
Definitely a good thing. It'd already run its course more than a year ago.
I give him credit for knowing when a character is played out. This sort of thing could never last THAT long.
It was time.
Yeah, you do got to admit that he would have just ran out of material to review sooner or later. My first hints was when he decided to review the TMNT Movie for some reason. I forgot what the reason behind that was, but considering that was probably a review that had the most recent release date,
Good riddence. Somehow some way Doug's past two years of unfunny blandness managed to rub off on his classic vids and that's not right.
A good portion of the stuff he's reviewed in recent months really cannot possibly be considered nostalgic to anyone. I mean, come on; The Cell? Super Babies 2? Live-action Scooby Doo? He basically just became another run of the mill bad movie critic at this point (and of course, the comedy was obviously lacking).
Like I said, it was time.
I'm saddened, but it's for the best I guess.
I do wish he would end on a better note, though. Scooby Doo is kind of a lukewarm end.
But I also think James should hang it up, too.
To be fair James has only produced three videos in the last two years.
It does seem like he has quietly shelved the Nerd character from full-time to occasional, doesn't it?
Quote from: Lord Dalek on September 14, 2012, 08:11:55 PM
To be fair James has only produced three videos in the last two years.
He's working on a movie I think.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 14, 2012, 08:07:05 PM
I do wish he would end on a better note, though. Scooby Doo is kind of a lukewarm end.
Yeah, its far from a great review, but the point is that the character has run its course. I do think that he had some gems in the past couple of years as the NC, and I completely disagree with Dalek that it makes his older videos seem less funny as well (I still enjoy them, at least), but like many others I've found the NC to be rather stale for about the 2nd half of his run. I think its a very smart move of Doug and the people running Channel Awesome to not completely kill off a good thing and just let it lay to rest while it still has a good sense of respectability behind it.
QuoteBut I also think James should hang it up, too.
James has barely done any AVGN videos in the past 2 years. He's still working on post-production of the movie, but the regularly scheduled episodic AVGN releases have been done for a while now. Just like how Doug said that he may occasionally have the NC character appear once in a while for some special occasion, James only has a new AVGN episode once every few months (if that).
I don't really see how he needs to "hang it up" when he's already done that at least 2 years ago, for the most part.
Honestly, I wasn't surprised to learn that Doug Walker has decided to retire the Nostalgia Critic. He was noticeably burned out and this lack of enthusiasm showed during his last crop of reviews. He even expressed (in character) how tired he was of doing NC reviews at the beginning of his Scooby Doo review. The Critic's rant at the very beginning of Scooby Doo went on for too long and was too specific for it to be Doug just doing a bit; clearly, Doug was voicing his own frustrations through the character. I could tell that he wouldn't be doing NC for much longer. He was bound to run out of nostalgic material at some point anyway. Toward the second half of To Boldly Flee, it seemed obvious that Doug was going retire the Critic from regular use in some way, although he said in his video that he might pull the character out once in a while.
I completely respect Doug for knowing when to call it a series. His last group of NC reviews, while not terrible or even bad, just haven't been as enjoyable as the ones that he's done in the past. It seemed obvious to me that Doug's heart just wasn't in it anymore. He wanted to do something else. James Rolfe similarly knew to retire the Angry Video Nerd when he likewise admitted to feeling burnt out from doing it for so long and for so often. I wish that Matt Groening would had done the same thing with The Simpsons about 15 years earlier. I loved it when Doug said "Just because something is popular, that's no reason to keep doing it." It was like he was talking about The Simpsons, The Fairly OddParents and Family Guy directly. As an artist, I too am frequently looking for new ways to express myself, so I can understand Doug's desire to retire NC and start doing something else. I look forward to learning more about Doug's new project Demo Reel and I wish him and his team the best of luck with their future endeavors.
I'll still be watching That Guy With the Glasses for Nostalgia Chick, Atop the Fourth Wall, CR!, Tood in the Shadows, Obscurus Lupa Presents and Bad Movie Beatdown.
Yeah, there's still enough good stuff on the site to keep up with it. I recently fell in love with 80's Dan, myself.
I knew that even if Doug retired the Critic, that he wouldn't be away from the internet any time soon. He, Lindsay and Todd recently signed major contracts with Blip TV, which maybe means that they'll be involved with his new series, too.
There's still Todd, Linkara and CR, so I'm good. And Brad's funny in that awkward sort of way. I mean, the rest of them are awkward too, not in a funny way, just in a "these people are probably really awkward and/or annoying in real life." kind of way.
I'll be honest in saying that I was never really able to get into any of the other series on the sites. Most of the stuff that other reviewers talk about are stuff that I just don't really care about or no next to nothing about, so it makes it much harder for me to appreciate the humor related to whatever they are reviewing (or in some cases I just don't find them funny at all, and possibly even annoying, like Film Brain).
I believe that JesuOtaku is the only other reviewer that I was really following on that site, but she posts her reviews really infrequently so its not something that'd get me checking up on the site every wee for updates (more like every month).
Anyways, I'll still be looking forward to Doug's next big project, but until then I'm probably not going to visit the site that frequently anymore. There just isn't enough there that interests me anymore.
I'm still an ardent supporter of Brows Held High, if only because I feel that he actually reviews things instead of making snarky remarks while playing a character.
That's why I enjoy Linkara and JesuOtaku because they feel like they're legitimately reviewing something (albeit in a sometimes humorous way) instead of mindlessly throttling it. I do wish Linkara would review more good things, though. His Blue Beetle review was a good one.
Todd's the same way, but his appeal is kind of limited if you're not into music. Even if you can appreciate his spoofing of modern pop songs most people can easily recognize, he pulls out a lot of references that you ma not be able to get.
I'd still recommend his stuff though, even if you watch one of his One-Hit Wonders or movie reviews instead of his main stuff.
Most of JesuOtaku's reviews aren't even meant to be humorous. They are usually legitimate reviews, which I personally enjoy watching because she goes into a lot of depth about each show that she reviews (even the bad ones), and gives you all the information you'd need to know on whether you'd enjoy the series or not, and she does that without ever seeming biased or too overly passionate about something (sometimes she can be guilty of doing that, but its pretty rare to see in her reviews).
Now, my main problem with JO is her tendency to go off on long tangents talking about one specific point, whether it be something controversial about the series or something that she thinks is really important to stress but that most people really wouldn't care that much about. I also don't quite like how she feels the need to analyze almost everything in the more "complex" shows that she reviews. Its fine to point out how complex and/or intricate a series is, but she ends up inadvertently going into too much detail about such shows sometimes that it can just turn people off of it altogether.
Those problems aren't that big or frequent in her videos, though, so I can let it go. Overall, I'd say that she's easily my favorite "serious" reviewer in the site.
Another reviewer that I like his Welshy. His comedy flat-out sucks, but the actual serious parts of his reviews and retrospectives on various horror movies or TV series are really insightful and interesting to watch and listen to, IMO.
Also, while he's not part of TGWTG, I love James Rolfe's movie pieces (whether they be reviews, retrospectives, or part of his Monster Madness videos). He's another one who goes into a lot of detail about the movies that he talks about, but he always manages to keep what he's talking about relative and interesting, and more often than not if he's reviewing a movie that I haven't seen (which happens a lot since he reviews a lot of obscure films, at least to me), he manages to make me want to hunt down a copy of the movie on DVD and watch it for myself, which really shows how good he is at selling any kind of film when he gives you his own thoughts and perception of it to make it more interesting to think about. I've always liked this kind of output from James Rolfe more than his AVGN videos, honestly.
JO really can go on and on about subjects, yeah. That's one of my main problems with her, but that's mostly prevalent in her Ghibli videos and movie talkbacks rather than her anime reviews.
Yeah, I think I'm out of my "angry reviewer" phase and am more interested in legitimate reviews.
Though that is becoming harder and harder to find these days with people writing contrary reviews just to get on RT or something.
Just watch SFDebris.
And contrary reviews can sometimes work. Certain classic movies wouldn't even be remembered if it weren't for contrarians trying to see the gems in their supposed flaws.
I'm curious, did anyone else watch Spoony's commentary on To Boldly Flee? He goes into detail about why he parted ways with TGWTG. Turns out there is a lot more details than the Twitter nonsense. The tl;dw is that Spoony believes the site is too cluttered with way too many reviewers, isn't a fan of the site's layout, finding it difficult to keep up with everyone on the site because of those 2 factors, people getting into arguments about who gets top billing in the feature videos, and Didn't like the idea of having everyone move to Chicago. That and he believes that he has done all he can with them and that having a relationship with them isn't working for both sides.
Huh, no.
They really want everyone to move to Chicago? I know that the Channel Awesome crew is kind of like family to each other, but that's kinda pushing it.
It's also a website where talent is filtered out all the time. It's not really something reliable enough to plan a life around.
Some of them already seem to realize this, too, like how Lindsay is in grad school. I really doubt that she'd relocate from LA to Chicago while we may very well likely see her own films in the big screen before long.
I think Spoony might have mentioned something like that in his commentary. He did say something about how this reviewer bubble is going to burst soon. I mean this is a fad after all.
Also, where were my manners? Here's the link (http://spoonyexperiment.com/2012/09/15/to-boldly-flee-part-1-spoony-commentary/) I forgot to put in for ya.
When you think about it, Doug retiring the Nostalgic Critic character is a really good idea, since he can't rely on his video reviews forever. He's already been losing viewers as the years went by- that's why they added commercial breaks into the videos beyond just playing them at the beginning or end.
I think it was a good idea too, but the fad has been around since James started yet it has noticeably dipped in popularity in the last two years.
I'm gathering that people are growing bored with it, so they can either retire or move to more legitimate "straight" reviews but playing to shrinking audiences isn't exactly an ego-boost.
Completely joking, as I don't want to see anyone fail, but the thought of a final video where Doug has to go back to that factory job he quit while his friend filmed it and basically get it back would be the funniest thing ever.
Really, I think the fad started dying when most people saw RedLetterMedia's more in-depth negative reviews. RML's humour isn't for everyone, but no one can deny Mr.Plinkett raises a lot of good point in his reviews.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 18, 2012, 12:46:15 AM
Yeah, I think I'm out of my "angry reviewer" phase and am more interested in legitimate reviews.
Though that is becoming harder and harder to find these days with people writing contrary reviews just to get on RT or something.
I have to agree that the "angry reviewer" thing has been kind of played out for a while now. One thing that I dislike about James Rolfe's Angry Video Game Nerd character is that he spawned a legion of imitators, most of whom seemed to believe that all one has to do is rant about a bad game and curse like sailors on shore leave and it's comedy gold. Although I do understand that vice is funnier than virtue; most reviewers take the angry route because it's easier to be entertaining while ranting about a bad video game than it is to praise a good video and be entertaining. It's not impossible, mind you, but more work and effort is required. There's another online reviewer named Derrick Alexander, aka The Happy Video Game Nerd. He's basically trying to be the flip side of the AVGN; doing positive reviews on games that he likes instead of ranting about shitty games. While I can appreciate and respect what the HVGN is trying to do, unfortunately, his reviews are boring and are hard to sit through. Not because he's positive, but because Derrick has no real charisma and reviews are so detailed and straight forward that they're hard to sit through. For me, at least.
One video game reviewer that I've recently discovered that I do like, however, is JonTron. His reviews are pretty fun and he does both positive and negative reviews. JonTron hasn't made any new game reviews lately because he doing another video series with another reviewer (Ergoraptor) called
The Game Grumps.
Another personality that I enjoy is Screw Attack's Bob Chipman, aka Movie Bob, aka The Game Overthinker,. GO doesn't review video games. Rather he does commentaries on video game trends and video gaming culture. His commentaries are thoughtful and entertaining without being too boring or long winded. While the GO does indeed have skits and stories along with his videos, which is I don't think are really needed, but the skits aren't overly long and they don't really get in the way.
Quote from: Goldstar on September 18, 2012, 08:12:09 AM
There's another online reviewer named Derrick Alexander, aka The Happy Video Game Nerd. He's basically trying to be the flip side of the AVGN; doing positive reviews on games that he likes instead of ranting about shitty games. While I can appreciate and respect what the HVGN is trying to do, unfortunately, his reviews are boring and are hard to sit through. Not because he's positive, but because Derrick has no real charisma and reviews are so detailed and straight forward that they're hard to sit through. For me, at least.
Sorry, but I have to completely disagree with you on HVGN. His reviews are entertaining if you are someone who has an appreciation for classic games and are genuinely interested in finding out about great games that you may have missed out on back in the older generations. Maybe that's just me, but I love the detail that he puts into his reviews, and the clear effort he puts into trying to sell the idea of the games that he reviews and why they are unique and work so well. In fact, if it weren't for him, I never would have sought out Rocket Knight Adventures, which is easily one of the greatest Genesis games that I have ever had the pleasure of playing. I do disagree with his points sometimes, and as a reviewer he can be clearly biased a bit too much for my liking, but I personally find him to be much better than just a "reverse AVGN" as some people might put it. At any rate, being the opposite of AVGN isn't really the point of the HVGN, aside from being a gimmick to draw some attention to himself. Its always been about pointing out classic gems that were either overlooked or completely forgotten about.
That's at least my opinion on HVGN, though, either way, I don't think that he's done any reviews in a while.
I'd even say that the gimmick (of him being a reverse AVGN) died out. But anyway, I too believe that the HVGN is really good. Actually, he might be my #2 favorite out of these internet guys, after James Rolfe/AVGN.
Admittedly, the HVGN does put a lot of detail and research into the games that he reviews, but I would personally prefer it if Derrick were to put a little more panache into his presentation.
Quote from: Goldstar on September 18, 2012, 12:41:39 PM
Admittedly, the HVGN does put a lot of detail and research into the games that he reviews, but I would personally prefer it if Derrick were to put a little more panache into his presentation.
Well, I suppose that aspect just comes down to personal preference, then. Personally I think that he has a fine style of presentation with most of his videos, but its really subjective as to what you get out of it.
Oh wow, NC's Reefer Madness review is up (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/36561-reefer-madness-volume-2-dvd-exclusive-a-commentary).
I've always wanted to see this, but never wanted to waste money on the DVD. I'm glad it's here.
I wonder if this means that he'll also finally put up his Blues Brothers and Doomsday Machine reviews (which were both also DVD-exclusive).
I've got to admit, as stale as the NC was getting, it feels really strange to know that I won't have a new NC video to watch each week. It sort of became a habit of mine and I did still admittedly look forward to seeing his next review with every new week.
That said, I'll have to find a replacement weekly online video reviewer to replace the NC. Something just doesn't feel right unless I have a new video to look forward to every week. In my busy and hectic schedule, its one of the only leisurely things I get to do all week (which is really sad, but that's what life is like in my 5th year of Pharmacy college).
Quote
That said, I'll have to find a replacement weekly online video reviewer to replace the NC. Something just doesn't feel right unless I have a new video to look forward to every week. In my busy and hectic schedule, its one of the only leisurely things I get to do all week (which is really sad, but that's what life is like in my 5th year of Pharmacy college).
SFDebris.
QuoteI've got to admit, as stale as the NC was getting, it feels really strange to know that I won't have a new NC video to watch each week. It sort of became a habit of mine and I did still admittedly look forward to seeing his next review with every new week.
That said, I'll have to find a replacement weekly online video reviewer to replace the NC. Something just doesn't feel right unless I have a new video to look forward to every week.
They're working on that. From what I've gathered, Doug and company are grooming the upcoming
Demo Reel to be the new main attraction at TGWTG instead of Nostalgia Critic. Of course, we don't know when that's going to be ready. In the meantime, might I suggest Game Overthinker?
Obscurus Lupa Presents, also on TGWTWG, is a good NC substitute, IMHO. She reviews Z-grade movies, usually camp horror, quirky comedy, low-budget fantasy or just all-around cheap flicks, the kind of stuff they used to show on USA's
Up All Night. Most of them are pretty darn obscure, but they're often so jaw-droppingly terrible that they're a riot, and Lupa's comments are funny, though her persona and delivery are completely different from Doug's: she doesn't rant or scream, rather she seems to enjoy the utter campiness of the movies she reviews, so it makes for a nice change of pace.
Atop the 4th Wall is also good, though I don't read comics so I don't watch Linkara's stuff unless it's an iconic hero that I know or something that looks really bad or cheap (like
Marville or
Tandy Computer Whiz Kids). Plus, Linkara likes to incorporate ongoing stories and sagas in his reviews, which can be distracting and hard to follow unless you watch his stuff ritually.
QuoteIn the meantime, might I suggest Game Overthinker?
Yeah, funny thing: a lot of the good online shows nowadays are video game related: GO,
Unskippable, Assist Me, JonTron Show (though Jon hasn't been doing his own show for a while now since he started doing
The Game Grumps, which is funny, but like most Let's Plays, tends to run on for a bit.
I'm still shilling SFDebris. Even if you don't like Star Trek, his reviews offer an amazing depth of criticism while still having dry wit.
And I still say give Todd a shot. I'm sure you can find at least one song he reviews that you want to see receive a bashing if you check his page out.
Quote from: Avaitor on September 20, 2012, 01:09:23 PM
And I still say give Todd a shot. I'm sure you can find at least one song he reviews that you want to see receive a bashing if you check his page out.
Yeah, I forgot to mention Todd in the Shadows. I just started watching his videos last year, but he's good.
Speaking of Todd, here's a review I've really wanted to see him do. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/want-u-back-a-pop-song-review-by-toddintheshadows-6364473)
Doug just posted up a Top 11 list (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/36642-the-top-11-nostalgia-critic-episodes) of his favorite Nostalgia Critic episodes (obviously as himself, since the Critic character is now officially retired).
11- Good one! This is one of his better later ones, IMO.
10- I adore this thing. The fact that it was made astounds me.
9- Wow, Doug hated this one. I don't blame him though- the original is a classic.
8- Definitely one of my personal favorites.
7- I... kind of don't remember this review. I remember the rock monster singing "Born to Be Wild" and Jack Black randomly being in there. That's it.
6- This was a good one. I still wanted to see him tackle the sequel.
5- I. LOVE. THESE.
4- This had some good moments, but the only thing that made this review really memorable was Mara Wilson. So I think it's a little high, but the story behind hetting her on here makes it worth being here alone. If you guys haven't, check out the commentary for this review. It's really worth listening to.
3- I tend to really like the reviews of movies or shows that I saw as a kid, so yeah, this is no exception. Why this movie got made is beyond me.
2- Another one I saw as a kid! This one I actually liked though. But the review is cute.
1- Well if nothing else, this took a LOT of effort. And I don't even mind all the cameos. Not my #1,but hey.
Quote from: Avaitor on September 26, 2012, 12:35:27 PM
4- This had some good moments, but the only thing that made this review really memorable was Mara Wilson. So I think it's a little high, but the story behind hetting her on here makes it worth being here alone. If you guys haven't, check out the commentary for this review. It's really worth listening to.
1- Well if nothing else, this took a LOT of effort. And I don't even mind all the cameos. Not my #1,but hey.
Views are probably different when you're the creator of something, as your opinions would be a mixture between the quality of the video, and your memories from putting it together. Basically, all that work put into Moulin Rouge! (which I actually consider a solid film), or working with Mara Wilson (who, let's admit, was fantastic).
I felt like trying to put together my own favorite NC episode list. I tried to do a top 10, but
because I wasn't able to narrow it down enough going with a tradition of the character, I decided to list 11 episodes instead. Needless to say, it's far from concrete.
1. Titanic: The Animated Movie
2. Red Sonja
3. The Legend of the Titanic
4. Commando
5. Quest for Camelot
6. Jingle All the Way
7. Tom and Jerry: The Movie
8. We're Back! A Dinosaur's Story
9. Nostalgic Commercials!
10. Godzilla
11. Gordy
I also gave some thought to Doug's 1st Movie, Short Circuit: Parts 1 and 2, The Good Son, FernGully: The Last Rainforest, and Care Bears II: A New Generation. In my opinion, 2009 was the NC's best year.
I don't know if I could make a top 11 list, but my favorite review of his is Full House.
Quote from: Avaitor on September 27, 2012, 11:40:31 AM
I don't know if I could make a top 11 list, but my favorite review of his is Full House.
Been a while since I've seen that one. Might give it a rewatch.
I liked his Garbage Pail Kids review. That was one where true rage and passion was definitely shown throughout.
Yeahhh, after watching the actual film, I can easily see why he hated that movie so much.
But it's great to watch with a bunch of friends.
"Watch out for Jews!"
So, Suede, Linkara, and JewWario got together again and finally did their review (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/ir/suede/animenia/36704-animenia-pokemon-the-movie-2000) of the second Pokemon movie. This one is also really good, though admittedly I feel that most of the humor in these videos comes from the nostalgia of seeing the older Pokemon movies and then picking apart all of the things that are wrong with them, while still showing that they enjoy the movies as fans of the series.
Think I asked this a while ago. But it got buried under the news about the NC's retirement.
What do you guys think of his Old vs. New series, and what its best episode is?
Yeah, you picked a kind of inappropriate time to ask something like that. :P
And eh, his Old vs. New series was pretty dull to me, IMO. The only thing I really found interesting about them is that he went with the newer choices more often than the originals.
Same as Avaitor, really.
I understand the purpose of such a sub-series, but in the end it wasn't up to his usual quality. For instance, I wouldn't ever put any of them in a best of list.
Though I would have liked to see one of the old Garfield cartoon versus the new one.
Quote from: Avaitor on October 02, 2012, 09:03:51 PM
Yeah, you picked a kind of inappropriate time to ask something like that. :P
And eh, his Old vs. New series was pretty dull to me, IMO. The only thing I really found interesting about them is that he went with the newer choices more often than the originals.
Sorry. :sweat:
I really enjoyed the Willy Wonka/Charlie video if only cause it was comedic. Other than that, I think he gave an adequate comparison with the King Kong movies. From the vids I remember, the LotR one was the weakest because he tried to make a legit comparison between a masterpiece and... garbage.
But yeah, none of them came remotely close to his best episodes.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 02, 2012, 09:10:06 PM
Though I would have liked to see one of the old Garfield cartoon versus the new one.
Oh come on, we know that would come out with the same result as if he went with an OvN on The Hunting- old wins.
If he gave the new one more of a shot, I think one for the two TMNT series would've been good though.
Once again I'm in the minority and disagree with all of you completely. The Old vs. New was a fresh concept for a sub-series by the NC, and while he was clearly biased it was intentional and meant to be opinionated anyways. I enjoyed seeing his opinions on various old films and their newer iterations, even if I didn't always agree with him. I think my favorite one that he did was his Old vs. New between The Ten Commandments and The Prince of Egypt, and I didn't even agree with him on that one, but it was interesting just to hear his reasoning for preferring one over the other. Truth be told, I wish he had done some more of them, as there are other old movies and their remakes that I would have liked to see him tackle (such as 3:10 to Yuma, for example). I suppose what you guys find dull I actually find to have been his most interesting sub-series, and honestly these videos were a nice break from his usual style of reviews.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on October 02, 2012, 09:19:03 PM
I think my favorite one that he did was his Old vs. New between The Ten Commandments and The Prince of Egypt,
How'd I forget that one? Might actually be my favorite, too.
I dunno, I might have preferred old vs new if it was like TGWTG or the bum where it was a different thing instead of in with the other stuff. But it doesn't really matter now, I guess.
Quote from: Avaitor on October 02, 2012, 09:15:36 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 02, 2012, 09:10:06 PM
Though I would have liked to see one of the old Garfield cartoon versus the new one.
Oh come on, we know that would come out with the same result as if he went with an OvN on The Hunting- old wins.
Of course, but I really would like attention brought to the fact that the new one really has no excuse to be as bad as it is.
QuoteIf he gave the new one more of a shot, I think one for the two TMNT series would've been good though.
This would have been a good one, though. Definitely agree there.
Top ... Best Videos?? Hmmm... Well, the only TGwtG'er I heavily rewatch is Lindsay. So, to be fair, I can't do Doug yet. But, now a stake has been driven into my head...I now have to do top 10 lists of all the reviewers I watch heavily. November's going to be a FUN month...
Anyway, here's my Top 11 Nostalgia Chick Videos:
1. Labyrinth
2. The Lorax
3. The Christmas Shoes
4. DreamWorks vs. Disney (both parts)
5. She's All That
6. The Babysitter's Club
7. Der Furher's Face
8. Transformers: The Movie
9. Spice World
10. Blonde Girls Then and Now (...) Ke$ha
11. Bratz
Quote from: talonmalon333 on October 10, 2011, 11:54:29 PMWhat is you guys' favorite review of the Critic?
Top 11 Nostalgic Mindfuck Moments.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on November 09, 2011, 11:45:39 PMYou know, while I have a lot of respect for James Rolfe and love most of his output....his Nerd videos are now actually my least favorite thing that he does. I mean, he's had some good jokes and some funny reactions from strange stuff he witnesses in crappy games, but 90% of his Nerd videos ARE extremely long rants with excessive cursing and pointless toilet humor. I mean, that's not funny, its just cursing a lot and using disgusting imagery
Exactly. I HATE that garbage.
Quote from: Avaitor on November 29, 2011, 08:50:05 PMOkay, he reviewed Moulin Rouge! (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nostalgia-critic-musical-review-moulin-rouge-5779610)
In terms of quality, that is probably the single best review he's ever done for the sight. Though surprisingly, he's only the 3rd best thing about it. It's Brentalfloss's show and him and Lindsay steal it. So much so, I wonder if "Guilty Pleasure" is purchasable via- iTunes or whathave.
Quote from: Avaitor on December 24, 2011, 10:59:55 PMLike I said on tz, if I was doing these videos, I'd be a little more forgiving to The Lion King, and a heck of a lot less forgiving to Beauty and the Beast.
They both deserve to be roasted.
Royally!Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on March 15, 2012, 06:36:06 PMI also find that some of the movies that he chooses to tackle in his more recent reviews to be baffling choices. I mean, when he reviews stuff like The Cell or The Blair Witch Project 2 they just feel totally out of place given the whole concept of what his reviews are supposed to be about. Don't get me wrong, they are bad movies, but they are hardly nostalgic for either him or most people, as those aren't stuff that people remember watching as kids
I disagree. With the last part. A lot of kids are excited to watch R-rated movies when they're kids. Especially pre-the late 90's. Which is when parents stopped policing what their children watched as much. There is an entire generation of horror fans who remember movies
like Cell and
Blair Witch fondly as kids. And they do recognize the titles or the stars of the movie. A lot of people rushed to see
Blair Witch 2, even though they knew it didn't have the same characters. Especially kids, because they're more likely to buy the mystery and "mindfuck" of it more gullibly. And this is true especially of
The Cell because kids are likely to think it's more sophisticated than something like
The Sixth Sense which, comparably, was made for kids. It's more relevant to people who were kids in the late 90's than any other time before but, nonetheless it was a thing.
Quote from: Avaitor on May 09, 2012, 10:28:01 AMAlso, Resurrection wasn't Whedon's first screenplay. His tiny bit of involvement in Toy Story and the godforsaken Buffy movie came first.
I still like that movie. And dislike the series.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 09, 2012, 08:56:03 PMQuote from: Avaitor on May 09, 2012, 08:50:44 PMEh, since I'm in a list making mood
Top 10 Best Picture Winners
Most Overrated Winner
On the Waterfront
A Beautiful Mind was soooo boring. Nothin' beautiful about that one.
I'm torn between ABM and
Crash as the worst Best Picture winner ever.
Quote from: Avaitor on May 10, 2012, 05:01:43 PMThat's [Pulp Fiction vs Forrest Gump] still the biggest snub in Oscar history to my mind. Or at least it's tied with My Fair Lady beating Mary Poppins.
Oh,
Mary Poppins is definitely better than MFL.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 10, 2012, 05:20:12 PMPulp Fiction is a movie that is the classic definition of style over substance.
Agreed... but I agree that it works. Very well. Even I can't fight its' power.
1994? I think the best movie I saw from that year is still
Serial Mom. So, I'd give that the win. I don't see one reason why it couldn't compete with
Pulp Fiction.
Quote from: Avaitor on June 21, 2012, 09:55:12 PMThat's crazy, but I can't say I'm too surprised. Spoony never seemed like a very stable guy based on his videos and from what I've heard.
Eh, I won't miss him too much. I found his work obnoxious more than anything, although I did like his Twilight rants.
Out of the blue (or when
To Boldly Flee debuted), I decided to start trying to check out videos by some of these guys I've never really watched but caught once or twice. Tried Sage again... and I
really dislike this guy. Then, I started looking through Spoony's catalog and... this guy was EXCELLENT at vlogs! Back in '07, '08. His vlog on
Quarantine had me laughing more than maybe any other video I've seen on the entire site.
Quote from: Avaitor on July 16, 2012, 06:39:31 PMLindsay posted her top 11 flicks. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/team-nchick/nostalgia-chick/35918-lindsays-top-eleven-favorite-movies-of-all-time-this-week) Are you interested? No? Well, here are my thoughts towards her list anyway.
I've only seen
Who Framed Roger Rabbit... and I think it's overrated.
Quote from: Avaitor on August 29, 2012, 08:30:18 PMPaltridge noted that the Chick rants and raves about her feminist opinions in most of her videos. While I never really take what he says seriously, he does have a point. She does spend a LOT of time talking about the same topics. I think Linkara, a major feminist himself, does it better, since he doesn't needlessly dedicate entire videos to the objectivation of women in media like she does, and even turns the table and calls out when certain writers go too far in their attempt towards feminism.
I disagree. Not with Linkara, I've only seen about 5 of his
Power Rangers television series reviews. Oh, and his reviews of the
Amityville Horror movies. Which feel too short but thanks to him, I'm never going to bother with part 2. And want to see parts 5, 7, and 8 more than ever. But, Lindsay does a really good job talking about modern feminism and people really resent women now. I see it everywhere and it's fucking starting to make me an angry gay man (which is redundant, since all it takes to make me almost violent is one showing of
Trick 'R Treat). People are so much more critical with a woman who talks about something serious than they are a man. Fact. Mostly, they don't even want to hear it. And for all the talk that she's too preoccupied with this topic, do you actually pay attention to the way so many people talk about women? There is so much casual sexism and downright misogyny in this culture. She did a vlog about going to see
The Room and that's one of the reasons I wouldn't pay to see movies even if they weren't $10+ now. Women are not ony criticized for being too serious but godforbid she be the slightest bit unconventionally attractive! Men get in groups, a little alcohol, and "bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch," "fat fat fat fat fat," "ugly ugly ugly ugly ugly," "whore," "slut," "pig," endless combinations of these. Do you think men regard each other like this in the slightest? Fuck no. The first thing they do is take him seriously, and are ready to extend a little brotherhood if they think they can relate to him at all. They don't automatically think he needs to be attractive to be allowed to speak his mind. Unless he's stereotypically gay or, with a smaller percentage of guys, a different race than they are.
Of course, I take this very personally because in my opinion while homophobia is considered to be justified by religious people's argument that God says it's bad, I think it's been culturally influenced by old fashioned sexism. And... you know what? That Guy with the Glasses often unintentionally contributes to that. First of all, can you count how many times Doug refers to balls, sucking cock, and any man who isn't conventionally butch or tough as inherently bad? I was thinking about making a compilation of these clips. That would take weeks to do but the result would probably even make Doug himself gulp hard if he saw it. I might look the other way if it came down to being "oh, it's just his character." Yeah... he wasn't in character mode for the Disneycember special and still "gay is bad" came into play there as well (the section discussing
Fun and Fancy Free).
Quote from: talonmalon333 on October 08, 2012, 11:27:04 PM
Just saw The Haunting for the first time. Excellent film.
And with that, after watching it, I finally took the time to see the NC's review of it. What's funny is that, a quarter into the review, it just seemed like a typical mediocre remake to me. But then I saw more of it, and wow, it seriously is one of those awful movies that you can hardly believe exists.
Definitely one of the best NC episodes in ages.
Doug's top 11 worst reviewed movies are up. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/36806-worst-nc-reviewed-movies-ever)
I'm watching it now, haha.
Went on WAY too long and contained too much shtick.
I liked the video. Its interesting to see Doug's real thoughts on some of these movies that he's had to review in the past. I mean we knew that he obviously didn't like any of them, but the video goes into detail about just why he hates them as much as he does.
He does the same thing in his commentaries.
I like his commentaries as well.
There's some good stuff, but it does seem to go overlong, nearly as much as Jesu Otaku can.
The only movies that I've seen are Moulin Rouge!, which I'm on the positive side of, Inspector Gadget, which I totally agree with, and Garbage Pail Kids, which is about as bad as he says, but I do enjoy it in a "so bad it's good way". We got a great reception for it during bad movie night.
So Mara Wilson made another appearance, this time in a Nostalgia Chick episode. She's really awesome.
Yeah, for the Matilda video. That was a lot of fun. :>
Right. But I've also lost my patience for Lindsey's friends. But at least Nella wasn't there for long.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on October 12, 2012, 09:50:58 PM
Right. But I've also lost my patience for Lindsey's friends. But at least Nella wasn't there for long.
Every time I so much as
see them, I stop watching her videos, and I can rarely stand the Nostalgia Chick as it is.
Yeah, as I've stated before, I'm also not a fan of the Nostalgia Chick. Just something about her personality makes it feel like she's such a snob. It doesn't help that her videos usually aren't all that interesting, nor are they funny (at the times when she's clearly trying to be funny). That's just my opinion, at least.
Todd reviewed Gund... uh, Gangam Style (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/gangnam-style-by-psy-a-pop-song-review-6402032)
You can tell when he doesn't want to review a specific song, especially one like this, based on how it's written. I think that turns out a little refreshing, because Todd typically tries to find different ways to tackle easy targets like this. That's part of what I like about him so much.
Doug and JO's commentary for the Digimon movie is up. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/36891-digimon-commentary-with-jesuotaku)
Maybe it's because I really like both guys, but I think this is a fun commentary. It's especially cute to hear JO explain anime culture in general to the Critic.
Yeah, I saw that a few days ago. Its interesting to learn that this whole crossover was sort of a spot-of-the-moment sort of thing in which the Critic had never really planned to do a crossover with JO until after that Heavy Metal review in which fans pretty much demanded it after he only just hinted at it.
I think the review still turned out to be a good one all the same, though, but that may just be because I happen to be a fan of both the NC and JO AND have a lot of nostalgic memories for Digimon and the movie, so for me it was the perfect combination for the most appropriate subject material. That said, I do feel as though a lot of JO's humor would go over the heads of people who weren't familiar with her reviews (especially her Digimon retrospective videos) or Digimon itself, especially if those people didn't watch anime to begin with.
At any rate, this commentary is definitely one of the more interesting ones that the NC has done, IMO.
Well Demo Reel's up. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/demo-reel/37080-demo-reel-the-dark-knight-begins-rising)
Currently watching now.
Well, I liked it! Rough around the edges, but I got some laughs out of the whole thing.
I don't know how everyone else is taking it though, but I'm on the positive side for now.
Watched the first part, I'll see the next one tomorrow because I'm a little tired. So far, it's okay. There's room for improvement but I laughed more than once. I liked that black dude, I'll have to find out what his real name is. Something tells me he's going to be the popular one if this takes off.
Oh, and I was amused with Rob as a German. There's some potential gold right there.
This movie has finally been reviewed. (http://blip.tv/brows-held-high/brows-held-high-vase-de-noces-6412167) I am content.
I kind of liked Demo Reel. It wasn't perfect, but I did get a few laughs out it. It's only the 1st episode, so it's much too early to call it a success or a failure. I plan to keep watching it since this is the thing that Doug and Rob want to do now.
I liked Demo Reel. The opener was a little long (2 parts), but I genuinely thought it was funny.
Of course, a lot of people are crapping on it, but I can't help but think that some of the backlash Demo Reel is getting is simply because this is what Doug and Rob killed the Nostalgia Critic to do. Pretty much anything Doug would do after NC would/will be met with a fair degree of hate just because it's not the Nostalgia Critic. But if this is what's going to be TGWTG's main show now, I'm cool with that.
Also, Todd reviewed The Monster Mash for Halloween on One-Hit Wonderland. The song that gave birth to all of the wacky TV shows and movies about Hollywood's classic movie monsters coming together to cut up and party.
I thought it was OK. Not great by any stretch, but I didn't necessarily get bored with it, either. I think its a promising series that can be great, but a lot of the writing in this premiere honestly felt really stale. It still had funny moments, and I do think its at least a mark better than the average NC video from the past couple of years as his quality was slipping, but overall its a mediocre start to a series that could either end up being really successful or bombing hard. I do agree with Silverstar, though, that some people are unfairly bashing this series from the get-go just because it replaced the NC. I'm going to give it a fair shake, personally, and at least watch the first few episodes and see if its for me or not. As of right now, I'm pretty indifferent to it, but like I said I think the idea is really promising and it can turn into something truly great with they incorporate wittier writing into the mix.
Well... I just saw the first half of
Demo Reel, ep1, and like with the trailer, I thought it was pretty darn awful. There were 3 things I thought worked. Rob: easily the best thing about this (and I didn't like his character in
To Boldly Flee),
One-Woman Titanic: the only thing I thought was clever, and the black actor dressed as The Joker: the only thing I laughed at. Because he freaking really looked like Prince in the
Batman music videos. If that was the intention, it was brilliant. The reason the trailer was such a surreal, "this is going to be a disaster" experience is because it's just Doug being goofy in general with a couple of actors I don't think anyone knows. We have to get to know them through this series. And... frankly, I think their instincts are to mug for the camera. Well, hers especially. She kept posing, perkily. The black guy was just plain terrible. She was terrible as well, but with the
Titanic section, the joke was good- her fondling herself while playing two different characters and the shot of underwear shading the camera lens. Artsy. I liked that. It was the only thing that seemed unpredictable. Also... I will admit I also liked the "Three Weeks Later" thing, after Doug's Batman predicts the Joker won't be a threat.
Quote from: Silverstar on November 01, 2012, 08:49:37 PMAlso, Todd reviewed The Monster Mash for Halloween on One-Hit Wonderland. The song that gave birth to all of the wacky TV shows and movies about Hollywood's classic movie monsters coming together to cut up and party.
I'm a huge fan of this series he's doing.
An actual Demo Reel short is up. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/demo-reel/37174-demo-reel-annoys-rob-paulsen)
I like it! But hey, Rob Paulson. How can it not be fun? Also, watch the second video. Even though it looks like a retread of the ending from the main one, it's a cute alternate take.
That short is why I still have faith in Doug. Demo Reel's pilot wasn't spectacular, but it wasn't that bad either. I really miss when Doug would do random short sketches, as they're usually funny. Hopefully there'll be more like this in the near future.
Episode 2 of
Demo Reel, which was supposed to air this Tuesday, was pre-empted another week for retooling. Doug's brother Rob, aka The Other Guy elaborates on TGWTG's forums:
QuoteWe don't want to drop the whole remake concept, but we will lessen its impact. Since the launch, I've been working hard to come up with ways to do a similar a remake concept but give it a much better twist. One idea is they actually take inherently dumb ideas and make them cooler -- similar to the Youtube sketches that do serious trailers of Dora The Explorer or Carmen Sandiego. The idea itself wouldn't be bad, but legitimate logistical errors would derail it. This is more closer to our original concept, which was more like Home Movies and Noises Off in that it showed the breakdown of films gone awry, and the creative process involved. That's just one of many. I want to get away from straight up parody only remakes, though... so that will be slowly phased out in favor of more variety.
I want to focus less on direct parodies of the movie and let their stuff bring something legitimate to it. For me, it should be more about how unlucky their projects are. I think Doug focused too heavily on Donnie being a total psychotic buffoon, which is something I'm gonna slowly change. We both agree he'll have more of an Ed Wood quality (or, as I'm seeing it, a combination of Ray Stanz crossed with Sam Raimi) -- over-enthusiasm overriding his sense of decent filmmaking and occasionally the physical well being of his crew. But not in a MALICIOUS way. Which is a very common problem with many films, btw. I think he wants to do seriously good work, but just doesn't have the tools or experience to make it happen... which can lead to real character studies (what happens when realizes he'll never be good?). As it stands now, we may have just made him too crazy.
Episode 3 (now 2 coming out next week) will be the least remake heavy. It focuses mostly on Rebecca and Tacoma, with a side story from Karl and Quinn. It's actually not very Donnie centric at all. It's more about the behind the scenes stuff involving character backstories, onset animal wrangling gone wrong, and the perils of juicing your actors up to keep them working into the late hours of the night. It's also a Thanksgiving special. Satirical stuff will be more along the lines of Seinfeld, Home Movies, etc... where the movie world sort of intrudes on everyday life.
Episodes 4 and 5 (aka now episodes 3 and 4) will reveal everything about Donnie. He'll be a fully fleshed out character that has a story arc. And it will bring the antagonists into full swing.
I've tried my best to listen and fix things as best I could. I'm not saying I took ALL the advice. This isn't a democracy. Art still depends on a vision, and there are some things that we feel may still work -- some may like them, some not. But I looked at the things that I felt in my gut were correct observations: Donnie is a monster, he's NC light or Ask That Guy light, he and the actress have no character, the remake stuff adds little, the behind the scenes stuff is more interesting, there's no story arc, etc... Being asked to fix these things all in ONE episode is near impossible, though. To do so would be awkward. You'd have nothing but a giant plot dump of info in a desperate attempt to flesh characters instantly. I prefer organic approaches to writing. It's how I wrote the first act of To Boldly Flee: let the plot develop via the characters and their interactions, and don't worry about spelling everything out in the first five minutes (like dumping all characters in a room from scene 1 and handing them a treasure map). I think organic storytelling is much more rewarding. The trade-off, though, is that the audience will have to be patient at this point. Yes, we got behind the 8-ball. Yes, it means it will take awhile now to get things back in gear. But episodes 3 - 5 (now 2-4) I think, will take the show in a better direction. Honestly, it's the direction I wanted originally, but we lost our way over the years.
Despite everyone's obsession with Be Kind Rewind, that was never our inspiration. I still have yet to see that movie. Our inspiration was Home Movies, which inspired the idea some six years ago. It was a brilliant show. Still is. And kudos to the few who NAILED it and said it reminded them of Brendan Small and his misadventures. Ever since watching it years ago, Doug and I took a lot away from it, and you can probably find some of its humor even in NCs or the Anniversary specials. But time got ahead of us. The pilot we shot years back may have gone over great had we investors then (the production company we were interested in partnering with folded). But since then, Be Kind and Robot Chicken and College Humor and everyone else under the sun cropped up. That's the one thing that sucks about being ahead of your time... if you don't pounce, you miss your opportunity. We never pounced with Demo Reel and did with NC. It's a good trade off, since the NC worked, but there it is.
Now it's either give up something Doug wanted to do from the very beginning, or find a way to adapt -- to take an idea and breathe fresh life into it. I'd rather do the latter than just give up. I like a challenge, and so does Doug.
Our biggest mistake was not reading the culture shift or realizing the impact that Be Kind Rewind had on pop culture. What could've flown six years ago will not now, and we didn't update the idea since its original inception. This made it inseparable from anything else out there. Whatever originality the idea could ride back then, it can't NOW as is. In addition, we also lost our way. I told Doug after episode 2 (the original episode 2 that will now be a special episode) that we need to go back to our roots and look at Home Movies. Parodies should be the seasoning, not the whole meal. Some of that losing touch with the original vision was a result of catering to one audience for so long, an audience that can be hard to read sometimes. Thing is, we didn't read the shift in our fanbase. That our fans want smarter humor is AWESOME, but was unexpected. Not to say we don't think they're smart. I know they are! But our style with the Critic's stuff has been very... er... blunt. But I love smart humor. I love character. I tried to at least give half of TBF more of an edge plot-wise over the previous specials. But we were still in the mindset of Bum, Ask That Guy, even The Critic -- which depended on a lot of shouting and physical gags and lines like "hippopotamus anus!" to get the point across. That our fans want something more is really gratifying, and I'm gonna try my best with Doug to give them something interesting. But yeah, after doing the Critic for four years, it's hard to get out of that mindset. But now that we know that the bulk of our fans want more, we can start retooling.
Again, though, all I can say is it's gonna take time. We're 2 eps behind the 8 ball, and I want this thing to develop NATURALLY. Anything else would smack of desperation. I'd rather tell a story... even if it means acknowledging our faults here and finding ways to incorporate them into the show. That's part of the fun of the creative process, which is what the show will be about. And it's something the internet used to champion over the networks' ratings based slash and burn mentality. So all I can ask is for you patience. Don't play Fox. Let us develop this thing before cancelling it in your mind just as it starts getting good.
-Also, Todd reviews the Top 10 Worst Songs...of 2004.
Well that sounds promising. It proves that Doug and Rob care a lot about this project, and are willing to do what's best for it.
Quote from: Silverstar on November 15, 2012, 08:23:13 AMAlso, Todd reviews the Top 10 Worst Songs...of 2004.
I'm inclined to characterize that video as a disaster. Even though I agreed with 9 out of 10 of his choices, enthusiastically, and that should be enough to call it a success...
but, one GIGANTIC flaw:
"Milkshake" is amazing. I don't know what he was smoking but he was wrong. I'd accept #4 placement on a Best of the Year list. But, not the Worst. Also, in his summary he said "she never explained what a Milk Shake was." Um... that's because a lot of people already know.
Also, Todd's a fan of
8 Mile and I think it's crap, and I was not amused by his "eat a dick" comment. There's way too much homophobia on TGwtG and he already had an overwhelming case against the song ("Why?" by Jadakiss).
8 Mile's just Purple Rain with Shady. The soundtrack is good, but the movie's forgettable at best.
Quote from: No-Personality on November 20, 2012, 10:34:41 AM
There's way too much homophobia on TGwtG
Is there? I never really watched anyone other than Doug and Linkara, and even then I didn't exactly wait on baited breath for their next episodes, so I have no idea. I'm surprised the staff would allow any kind of bigotry on there, though.
I should make it clear that most of it is casual, but it still bothers me since you know a lot of little adds up after awhile. I'm talking about the constant references to how disgusting men's bodies are sexually. I could make a fortune off an "If I Had a Dime for Every" fund for references Doug's made to how dehumanizing it is for men - while his routine assumes every man is straight or that this is even what most men find funny - to be confronted with dick and balls (I don't care what people are grossed out by but... think about it: when are you as a heterosexual male actually ACCOSTED by men's privates and if you ever were, wasn't it a drunk STRAIGHT guy who thought it was hilarious to put something you didn't want in your face?). Now I've noticed Todd doing the same, and Paw Dugan's review of Rocky Horror Picture Show was full of very uncomfortable comments about gender roles (it's bad if a man's voice is of indeterminable gender, it's gross that FrankNFurter took Rocky to bed with him, it's surprising for a femine man to have a decent singing voice), as well as the frequent "eww, guy on guy" shit in their yearly specials. It makes frequent appearences in bits, but the one that absolutely crossed the line for me was the "I'll eat your pee-ness" bit from Suburban Knights. That's clearly Doug or Rob and Doug at work, but the fact that Joe, Matthew, and Luke agreed to act it out makes me furious. And I've paid very close attention to Doug's criticisms of movies and male characters who aren't extremely masculine are frequently made into objects of ridicule (meanwhile, where's the rule that states every likable protagonist or threatening antagonist must be more masculine by nature?) and criticized in general.
Furthermore, Amazing Atheist / Distressed Watcher actually mentioned that he had a video rejected based on the site being afraid of attracting comments, either way. Which he said he found strange given that Diamanda Hagan is gay and that he believed the site was very passionately opposed to discrimination (truthfully- it's a matter of some producers being more open-minded than others and others just being very stupid on occasion and not thinking). I'm inclined to believe that.
Frankly- that site doesn't give a shit at all what anyone says or does so long as they don't turn off advertisers with sexual content. This would be great for creative freedom and some people thrive on it. But, too many people on the site do not care if they are contributing to a still-way-too hostile culture of intensely anti-gay sentiment. Their viewer base is already very young and sometimes extremely immature as it is. I mean, the Blip.tv commenters are all I read now (I don't watch any videos on-the-site anymore, I ship off to Blip for all of them). And they have a better sense of self-control- only 1 nutbag sometimes makes it into a comments section there (I seem to remember Lindsay's video on Ender's Game got a homophobic girl and a black guy claiming homosexuality is not a struggle merely because racial struggles were much worse).
Another One-Hit Wonderland from Todd. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/one-hit-wonderland-tubthumping-by-chumbawamba-6456971) And I honestly didn't know that Chumbawumba were an anarcho-punk band.
I say without irony or exaggeration that the Brows Held High review of Melancholia is the best blip video of 2012.
Ehhh... I give it a C+.
You guys been watching Disney-cember?
On and off. It really annoys me how Doug doesn't do his homework for anything he reviews, ever.
Quote from: Avaitor on December 12, 2012, 06:29:36 PM
On and off. It really annoys me how Doug doesn't do his homework for anything he reviews, ever.
What do you mean?
Quote from: talonmalon333 on December 12, 2012, 06:41:55 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on December 12, 2012, 06:29:36 PM
On and off. It really annoys me how Doug doesn't do his homework for anything he reviews, ever.
What do you mean?
Well, for one thing, according to Doug, Disney was not in a good place around the time Toy Story came out. Even though, y'no, that's a load of shit.
Quote from: Avaitor on December 12, 2012, 06:49:26 PM
Quote from: talonmalon333 on December 12, 2012, 06:41:55 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on December 12, 2012, 06:29:36 PM
On and off. It really annoys me how Doug doesn't do his homework for anything he reviews, ever.
What do you mean?
Well, for one thing, according to Doug, Disney was not in a good place around the time Toy Story came out. Even though, y'no, that's a load of shit.
Yeah admittedly, that was a pretty big mistake. I didn't mind it too much though.
Quote from: Avaitor on December 12, 2012, 06:49:26 PM
Quote from: talonmalon333 on December 12, 2012, 06:41:55 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on December 12, 2012, 06:29:36 PM
On and off. It really annoys me how Doug doesn't do his homework for anything he reviews, ever.
What do you mean?
Well, for one thing, according to Doug, Disney was not in a good place around the time Toy Story came out. Even though, y'no, that's a load of shit.
:unimpressed: He said that?
Weird.
If he meant that by the time Toy Story 2 or even A Bug's Life came out, it wouldn't be that bad. Or if he meant that when Pixar's roll of critical and commercial dominance took over, again, not a bad point.
But Disney was still on a Lion King high by the time Toy Story came out, and even though Pocahontas wasn't nearly the hit that was, it still did very well.
Quote from: Avaitor on December 12, 2012, 07:00:20 PM
If he meant that by the time Toy Story 2 or even A Bug's Life came out, it wouldn't be that bad. Or if he meant that when Pixar's roll of critical and commercial dominance took over, again, not a bad point.
But Disney was still on a Lion King high by the time Toy Story came out, and even though Pocahontas wasn't nearly the hit that was, it still did very well.
Maybe that was what he meant, but he phrased it wrong. That is a pretty glaring error though. Honestly, that mistake aside, his Pixar/CGI Disneycember is still pretty darn good. I'd recommend anyone who loved it last year to check it out. He's up to The Incredibles right now.
Does anyone have a link to his blip page? I'd rather just watch there if I can and get the chance.
Quote from: Peanutbutter on December 12, 2012, 07:05:30 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on December 12, 2012, 07:00:20 PM
If he meant that by the time Toy Story 2 or even A Bug's Life came out, it wouldn't be that bad. Or if he meant that when Pixar's roll of critical and commercial dominance took over, again, not a bad point.
But Disney was still on a Lion King high by the time Toy Story came out, and even though Pocahontas wasn't nearly the hit that was, it still did very well.
Maybe that was what he meant, but he phrased it wrong. That is a pretty glaring error though. Honestly, that mistake aside, his Pixar/CGI Disneycember is still pretty darn good. I'd recommend anyone who loved it last year to check it out. He's up to The Incredibles right now.
What movies has he done so far? Has he only tackled the Pixar movies or did he do the CGI Disney Movies yet?
Quote from: Daxdiv on December 12, 2012, 07:25:23 PM
Quote from: Peanutbutter on December 12, 2012, 07:05:30 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on December 12, 2012, 07:00:20 PM
If he meant that by the time Toy Story 2 or even A Bug's Life came out, it wouldn't be that bad. Or if he meant that when Pixar's roll of critical and commercial dominance took over, again, not a bad point.
But Disney was still on a Lion King high by the time Toy Story came out, and even though Pocahontas wasn't nearly the hit that was, it still did very well.
Maybe that was what he meant, but he phrased it wrong. That is a pretty glaring error though. Honestly, that mistake aside, his Pixar/CGI Disneycember is still pretty darn good. I'd recommend anyone who loved it last year to check it out. He's up to The Incredibles right now.
What movies has he done so far? Has he only tackled the Pixar movies or did he do the CGI Disney Movies yet?
He is indeed planning on doing Disney's CGI flicks.
Quote from: Daxdiv on December 12, 2012, 07:25:23 PM
Quote from: Peanutbutter on December 12, 2012, 07:05:30 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on December 12, 2012, 07:00:20 PM
If he meant that by the time Toy Story 2 or even A Bug's Life came out, it wouldn't be that bad. Or if he meant that when Pixar's roll of critical and commercial dominance took over, again, not a bad point.
But Disney was still on a Lion King high by the time Toy Story came out, and even though Pocahontas wasn't nearly the hit that was, it still did very well.
Maybe that was what he meant, but he phrased it wrong. That is a pretty glaring error though. Honestly, that mistake aside, his Pixar/CGI Disneycember is still pretty darn good. I'd recommend anyone who loved it last year to check it out. He's up to The Incredibles right now.
What movies has he done so far? Has he only tackled the Pixar movies or did he do the CGI Disney Movies yet?
At the moment, he's running through Pixar's films in chronological order. I imagine he'll get to the CGI Disney ones as they come up.
Yeah, Chicken Little should be next.
I thought the Stinger near the end of the Incredibles meant he was tackling Cars next. That should be a fun watch, since IIRC, he called Cars one of the most overrated movies of all time... which is funny for me since every person I meet says that Cars is their least favorite Pixar film.
I agree with everything he's said about the Pixar movies so far, except I like Toy Story 2 slightly less than the original. I'm also more forgiving toward the non-Toy Story movies, even if I don't think they are on the same level of quality.
:thinkin:
I personally think TS2 is the significant weakest of the trilogy.
Yeah, I probably agree with that.
I do think it's the weakest of the trilogy. But significantly? Can't agree there. I actually think it's Pixar's third best film. :P
Well it's far from bad. The film has a lot of high points in fact, if you remember my review on the old board. :P
But Jessie gets on my nerves most of the time. The rest of the new characters are okay, but she's too high energy for me to handle during the movie. I much prefer how she's toned down in the third film.
Yep, it's good, but it's true that when I re-watch them 2 is my least favorite.
Quote from: Avaitor on December 12, 2012, 09:20:31 PM
Well it's far from bad. The film has a lot of high points in fact, if you remember my review on the old board. :P
I kinda-sorta do. Is anything from the old board still viewable?
Quote from: Avaitor on December 12, 2012, 09:20:31 PMBut Jessie gets on my nerves most of the time. The rest of the new characters are okay, but she's too high energy for me to handle during the movie. I much prefer how she's toned down in the third film.
I can see why. She can get a bit annoying in 2. But once she tells the story of her past, I think she becomes quite likeable.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on December 12, 2012, 09:32:59 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on December 12, 2012, 09:20:31 PMBut Jessie gets on my nerves most of the time. The rest of the new characters are okay, but she's too high energy for me to handle during the movie. I much prefer how she's toned down in the third film.
I can see why. She can get a bit annoying in 2. But once she tells the story of her past, I think she becomes quite likeable.
Oh yeah, that's easily the best song Randy Newman ever wrote.
Just like I think the best thing Phil Collins ever did was Tarzan. Why Doug picked on that in particular baffles me.
Probably because Bigger Longer & Uncut came out the same year and lost grammys to Tarzan. A lot of people are still bothered over that for some reason.
Well yeah, BL&U had a really good soundtrack, but do you really expect a movie with songs like "Uncle Fucker" to win an Academy Award?
M&T did. See the first Timmy episode for an example.
Quote from: Avaitor on December 12, 2012, 08:40:11 PM
I personally think TS2 is the significant weakest of the trilogy.
I kind of agree. I like the movie, no doubt, but I can't help but feel that people really overrated the hell out of it, which as sort of distorted my perception of it in a negative way, even if that's not really the movie's fault.
Quote from: Avaitor on December 12, 2012, 10:03:15 PM
Well yeah, BL&U had a really good soundtrack, but do you really expect a movie with songs like "Uncle Fucker" to win an Academy Award?
I'm surprised that out of all of the songs from BLU that they could have nominated, it was Blame Canada. I enjoyed that song, but I thought that the movie had better (funnier) songs than that which could've been nominated in its place.
For what its worth, I do enjoy the main song from Tarzan, even if I don't give two-shits about Phil Collins.
I watched all the Toy Story films in a row last year and I personally thought they got increasingly better.
I think they get increasingly better in pretty much all areas including execution, but I think the first has better pacing and more character moments than the second one does. They're all great, but there's way more Woody with Jesse and Pete than most of the characters with Buzz or the toys back at home in 2.
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Quote from: Avaitor on December 12, 2012, 08:40:11 PM
I personally think TS2 is the significant weakest of the trilogy.
I kind of agree. I like the movie, no doubt, but I can't help but feel that people really overrated the hell out of it, which as sort of distorted my perception of it in a negative way, even if that's not really the movie's fault.
I don't know about TS2 being overrated, but there's no way that it was the third best movie of the 90's, or the best animated movie either. AV Club really dropped the ball on that part of their ranking.
Looks like he's sticking to Pixar after all. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/37631-disneycember-cars)
What does he mean everyone liked Cars when it came out?
Quote from: Avaitor on December 15, 2012, 10:59:39 AM
Looks like he's sticking to Pixar after all. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/37631-disneycember-cars)
What does he mean everyone liked Cars when it came out?
People he knows in his personal life and the people on whatever sites he visited at the time, I'm guessing. I like Cars just fine myself (never saw 2) so it's not impossible to me he knows a crowd out there that enjoys it.
I dunno, I remember most people in real life liking it. It was mostly online where the negativity came from.
I have never physically met anyone who likes Cars.
I know a couple of people who kinda like the first movie, but nowhere near as much as pretty much any other Pixar movie. Even the majority of people over the age of like 8 agree that it's near the tailend of pixar's canon.
Quote from: Avaitor on December 15, 2012, 10:59:39 AM
What does he mean everyone liked Cars when it came out?
This was still the one thing I never understood about him. Especially when he put Cars on his overrated movies of all time list. Of course, I just attribute that to him using the internet definition of overrated. I'll admit that I like Cars, but it is nowhere near Toy Story 1 & 3, Up, Monsters Inc WALL*E & The Incredibles for me.
As for the rest of the Disney movies, I'm expecting him to tackle WDAS output after doing all of Pixar.
Quote from: Daxdiv on December 15, 2012, 07:28:57 PM
As for the rest of the Disney movies, I'm expecting him to tackle WDAS output after doing all of Pixar.
Yeah, that's what I'm guessing. It's like how he tackled the hand-drawn DACs before going to Enchanted, Tangled, Roger Rabbit etc. He wants to do Pixar first.
Can't blame him for that, really. Considering the smaller output of the Disney 3D movies, and that people watching him are going to focus more on what he has to say about every Pixar film.
A little early to speculate this, but I wonder if he does Disneycember next year, what would he review? Disney's live-action movies? Or maybe he'll do the Disney Afternoon toons and others up to Gravity Falls? That would be pretty cool.
Doug's said before that he's not comfortable with reviewing shows that he hasn't seen much of, and he also doesn't seem like the kind of guy who'd watch cartoons designated for children at an older age, with very few exceptions. Gargoyles is obviously one of those though, since in his NC review, he did say that it was on when he was as far in his life as high school.
And there are just too many Disney animated series made since Gargoyles came out to be ignored, a fair amount of them with decent followings. Even if Doug would be more willing to review shows he isn't so familiar with, I'm not sure if he can familiarize himself with around 30-50 TV shows by this point next year, unless he only cherry picks a couple of episodes each, which he did with Nick month, and look at how that went. It doesn't sound too feasible of a goal.
I would like to see him tackle some of the live-action films, but obviously not every single one, since that could take years and there are so many worthless films with the Disney name that aren't worth researching. I'd like to see him cherry pick a bunch of the most popular movies from different eras and have his say on them. Obviously he can talk about Pirates and National Treasure from today, and pick the movies that were released under the Vault Disney DVD line among the classics.
He got to WALL-E.
I actually couldn't disagree more with all of the things that he says about the spaceship and everything in it. I think the imagery of seeing the earth in pieces, and then the spaceship where people have practically wasted and faded into nothing, is just perfect. Sure, we can see the message of the movie early on. But that imagery I mentioned just makes it stronger.
Mara Wilson has made another appearance!
Where'd she show up this time?
Quote from: Avaitor on December 18, 2012, 11:48:48 PM
Where'd she show up this time?
Doug did an interview with her. It was pretty interesting. I'd post a link here if the website wasn't being so slow on me right now. :imnothappy:
Why not just link to the blip page?
I don't get why people are still making such a big deal over Mara Wilson and her minor involvement with the site. Yeah, after a small misunderstanding Doug actually got her to do a cameo appearance in one of his reviews, and I'll admit it was kind of cool to see a "former" celebrity who was actually featured in the movie Doug was reviewing make an appearance in the video. But for whatever reason people still treat it like its the biggest thing ever. Its not even like that was one of Doug's best reviews (at least IMO). I guess there's nothing wrong getting more exposure for her on the site, but for whatever reason I just don't get the continued interest others seem to have in Mara Wilson having been involved with one of the Nostalgia Critic's reviews (and also later on a Nostalgia Chick review as well).
I don't think she's really as popular with the fans as Doug wants her to be either. That scene she had in the NC review was great and sold some T-shirts, but I think that's where fans stop caring.
The appeal comes from how someone who's considered a minor embodiment of early 90s kids flicks (NC's usual forte) appeared to show the Critic (and the viewers) that perspective can change everything. And on the other side of the mirror, Mara has become a snarky blogger while Doug used to be a geeky, little kid. It demolished the idea that the Critic was just some angry caricature by showing he's just as flawed as the films he reviews, while Mara's appearance displayed a certain audacity in seeing the saccharine, little girl from Mrs. Doubtfire and Matilda suddenly become deadpan and cynical.
Also, girl power. Because a girl standing up for herself automatically gains tumblr points.
That sounds awful. :-\
Oh, I fotgot to mention, this is one of my new favorite Todd reviews. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/tis/tpsr/37577-pop-song-reviews-we-are-never-ever-getting-back-together)
It's a little too positive for my tastes though.
He has done Toy Story 3.
I couldn't possibly disagree with him more. Yeah, Andy acted very nostalgic in that ending. But the fact is, he really did feel that way. I guess you could say that his toys, in a way, represented his childhood to him. Added to that is the fact that the creators have supposedly even said that he's a bit of an oddball when it comes to his toys, and to me, there's simply nothing corny about that ending. And you've also gotta remember that he was talking to a little kid.
But other than that, I mostly understand his arguments. But I honestly had no problems at all with the movie. The incinerator scene and the ending were my two favorite parts.
I found the blip page.
I totally and utterly disagree about the ending of Toy Story 3. And I actually have met teenagers/college students that acted that way around kids so I really don't get his "unrealistic" remarks. Especially when you remember just how much Andy loved his toys, and this would be the last time he would ever see them and he wanted them to have a good home. So I don't get the whole "he played with them" complaint when he was playing with the girl not for himself.
That said, I agree with him that Up is probably the best Pixar film.
I don't know what it is, but NC's Disneycember this year is really irritating me more than anything else. I honestly don't mind the fact that I practically disagree with just about every opinion he has on the movies he's reviewing. Even with The Incredibles, which is a movie that I personally don't care for, my problems with it are completely different from his, and I actually felt that if anything, the family got plenty of attention in the film from the beginning, rather than it just being about Mr. Incredible. I have no idea what he's talking about there.
None of that really bothers me, though. I suppose its just the snarky way in which he expresses his opinion, as if his criticisms are something that should be so obvious to everyone and bother everyone just as much as they bother him. There's sort of an heir of ignorance to the way he goes about criticizing some of these movies, and a lot of times he'll say "I can't place my finger on it, but...." or "I don't know what it is," which really annoys me as its just a lazy way to say that he doesn't like something without coming up with a proper criticism for it.
As for his Toy Story 3 review, I completely disagree with him as well. None of this points made any sense to me. As far as the break-out scene went, that certainly did not take up nearly as much of the film as he implied, and there was a lot more going on that got plenty of focus, or at least more than what he gave it credit for. Sometimes I feel as though he just wants to be in the minority of opinion for the sake of standing out.
As far as his comments on the ending scene goes, I think the NC forgets that this is still a kids film. That more "realistic" alternative scene he suggested where Andy just pauses for a second wouldn't be more powerful at all. It'd just seem like a really weak way to end things off of. Toy Story is still essentially a fantasy, and its not as though the previous films (including Toy Story 2) didn't have their own instances with people acting way differently than they would in reality. And as far as Andy parting with his toys go, I DO know people who have gotten sentimental about what they own before and don't want to give them away, and at the same age Andy was in TS3, no less. No, of course they wouldn't go all-out when sending off their favorite nostalgic toys to a little kid, but knowing them, they wouldn't send them off in the first place, since even if they don't play with them anymore they were an important part of their childhood and growing up. Lots of people don't want to give stuff that they've owned since they were little away. Just because the NC didn't know anyone like that growing up doesn't mean he should assume that nobody else does. Either way, that was an extremely effective scene, and it didn't come off to me as cheesy at all. If its cheesy just because it wasn't something you'd see in the real world, then just about every Pixar movie is full of cheesy moments.
At any rate, Disneycember makes me appreciate how James Rolfe does Monster Madness. He keeps his videos concise and to the point, and rather than being reviews their informative pieces on movies (usually more obscure ones, at that), which you may or may not enjoy. And unlike Doug, you can tell that James always does his research, which is something that I have only appreciated more the more I see knock-offs of Monster Madness for other months of the year.
Oh, and Also, Doug is flat-out wrong about Monsters Inc., and its still my favorite Pixar movie. I don't give a shit what he says, but as far as I'm concerned the voice acting was fine (that Billy Crystal bull-shit isn't there unless you're specifically looking for it, I suppose), their characters were not weaker than in Toy Story (if anything Mike and Sully are probably my favorite Pixar characters for their brilliant chemistry together, and actually being constantly fun to be around), and the villains weren't meant to be the focus on this movie anyways, so I didn't mind that they were goofy. And for the record, the villains in EVERY Pixar movie are pretty damn weak, when their are villains. Toy Story 2, 3, The Incredibles, A Bug's Life, and especially Up (and I LOVE Up) are no exception to this rule whatsoever. I don't see why he singled out Monsters Inc. here, but either way, I completely disagree with his outlook on it.
Doug just isn't meant for serious review. He's awful at explaining detail and repeats phrases down to the ground like a third-rate hack.
That, and the way he uses the term "you" or "we" as a matter-of-factly point of view, such as "YOU can feel how they feel" or "YOU can easily sympathize with them" or "and this is why WE all like it" is equally bullshit. Maybe you, Doug Walker, can relate to the protagonists in question, but that doesn't mean we, the rest of the audience, do as well.
Synonyms, Doug. At least try.
This is why James Rolfe and Lindsay Ellis are much better at this kind of critique.
Yeah, you really have to respect how both of them take the time to research what the hell they are talking about in the first place. When James, Lindsay, or one of the better serious reviewers does a review, you can already tell that they have re-watched the film recently before doing it and have actually done their homework on the subject material before writing their review on it. I feel as though Doug just half-heartedly took what he remembered from these movies and just sloppily expressed his general opinions on them. Its just not as interesting for me to watch and ticks me off whenever he criticizes the movie without finding proper ways to elaborate on his criticism (its usually something very vague that he himself admits he can't explain, anyways). I don't mind if I disagree with him on something, but at least explain your reasoning better.
His points seem a little better in the vlog compliments to his Bum Reviews, when he just saw the movie in question, but even then, Doug doesn't really seem to be able to express his points across in an articulate manner at all.
It's kind of like talking with a friend that hated the movie you just saw and loved. It's one thing to have to be there and talk to them about why he didn't like it, but another to spend time by watching him share his views online. You can only tolerate so much of it.
My biggest issues (besides the ending) was that he seemed to imply that Woody was having the same dilemma he has had before which to me seems almost as if Doug wasn't paying attention.
In the first movie, Woody is simply jealous. In the second he's worried about the future. Here he has to make a decision of whether to find comfort for himself and leave his friends behind, or join them himself and let Andy move on. It wasn't the same dilemma at all when the first was a personal problem and the latter was (somewhat justified) paranoia, the one in TS3 was more than about just him.
He also has a bad habit of going off on tangents or over-emphasizing certain points of criticism when he clearly can't think of anything else to say at the time. It makes his videos feel longer than they need to be, and its aggravating when you have to hear him repeat one of his points (whether its good or bad) on a movie multiple times throughout his video.
I will say that out of his Disneycember stuff, Up is pretty much the only one where my views line up with his views. Hell, he even touched that one part about how Nelson should have been even older than Carl, if not dead. See, I remember the names of these names and I haven't watched Up in a while. I still find that to be one pet peeve of mine with these reviews, in that he's like "This guy was voiced by so-and-so" Also, I wished he did some research on his things. Would it have been hard to mention things like how Ratatouille had a bit of development problems? Hell, I even wonder if he'll mention Brave's problems with their directors. Probably not.
Despite how much I find it hard for me to focus on JO's stuff, at least half the shit I've seen from her shows she looks up info from whatever it is she is rambling about.
The thing about Nelson in Up was that Carl was in his 70s. Nelson could have easily been in his early 90s for it to line up, and considering all his inventions it would have been no trouble at all for him to keep healthy and stay in shape despite his age. So I didn't really have much of an issue with that at all.
But yeah, it is weird when he does a review and can't remember character names. Even when I write them for the site here if I forget something I at least browse a wiki page or two. If you love what you do, putting effort into it shouldn't be so hard.
Yeah, I always thought that Nelson had the ability to build a deaging machine to keep him alive a little and not age too much. That, or the Fountain of Youth was at Paradise Falls.
My problem with Up is that when you get down to it, the movie is pretty much just another Pixar buddy comedy. It has a lot going for it, but sometimes I do wonder if it would have worked better as a 10 minute short.
As for Doug and his (lack of research), the one movie I'd be curious to see how he tackles is Bolt. That one's history gets pretty twisted.
Didn't he and Rob already do a review of Bolt in Sibling Rivalry?
To be fair though, Up is more than a buddy comedy with many more themes than, say, Finding Nemo. Plus it was an adventure story, we hardly get those at all anymore never mind in a family film. Finding Nemo was a lot more basic in execution than Up was, as well, and the characters were a lot more stock. Of all their buddy films I would say Monsters Inc and Up would be the best ones (though the first Toy Story is the only buddy comedy of the three films), so it's hard to fault them for being the best.
I guess that's true, but the feeling of repetition stings in hindsight.
That, and I don't care for the dogs either.
Well, we'll have to agree to disagree on that one, because I loved the usage of the dogs. :D
Does that mean I have to wear the cone of shame?
Quote from: Avaitor on December 23, 2012, 12:23:09 AM
Does that mean I have to wear the cone of shame?
:lol:
One thing I had to agree with in his review was that the alpha dog made me laugh really hard even though it was such a simple joke. I don't usually find such simple stuff so funny, but Pixar has a real way at making simple jokes clever.
Is it me or does anyone else think maybe he should have picked strategic Live-Action classics to review for Disneycember 2?
Or, just called this one what it is: Pixarcember 1?
Quote from: No-Personality on December 23, 2012, 09:46:47 AM
Is it me or does anyone else think maybe he should have picked strategic Live-Action classics to review for Disneycember 2?
Some of us are thinking that is what he's planning for next year, but Doug does seem like the kind of person who is only familiar with Mary Poppins when it comes to older live-action Disney. Although he did put a clip of 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea in one of his NC reviews, so who knows.
Also, you know what's one video I've always wanted to see Lindsay do? An Old vs. New on The Parent Trap. It would've been too "girly" for Doug, and Lindsay could easily find something to talk abut both. Although she'd probably make a couple of Lohan jokes too.
I just saw his TS3 review, and while I do think that most of Doug's criticisms are weak, I do have to agree about how Andy could seem a little creepy at the end. I was expecting Bonnie's parents to come over or at least raise an eyebrow during his big monologue, and was surprised when they didn't.
Otherwise, it's a great scene. Sorry, bro.
Edit: And he BRIEFLY mentions Brave's production troubles. Like, blink and you'll miss it briefly.
Quote from: Avaitor on December 24, 2012, 11:41:13 AM
I do have to agree about how Andy could seem a little creepy at the end.
I don't. :P
I don't either, he was just speaking kid with Bonnie. If he didn't she probably would have stayed away from him and the scene wouldn't have worked at all.
I also don't agree with Doug or Avaitor. That's 3 strikes. You'r opinion is automatically invalidated. That's a fact.
You know, I always assumed that Bonnie's Mom and Andy's mom were good friends. I mean it's not like Bonnie's mom wondered who he was, rather why he was there.
I'm just saying that I can kinda see where Doug came from, not that I agree with him word-for-word.
Uh, for whatever reason, Doug skipped straight to Bolt, skipping Chicken Little and Meet the Robinsons.
Okay?
WOW. I kind of wanted him to talk about CL first. I hope he goes back and does Chicken Little & Meet the Robinsons before tackling Wreck-It Ralph.
Quote from: Avaitor on December 26, 2012, 07:52:52 PM
Uh, for whatever reason, Doug skipped straight to Bolt, skipping Chicken Little and Meet the Robinsons.
Okay?
Perhaps Doug didn't see those 2 movies?
I was hoping that Doug would review
Meet the Robinsons. That was an enjoyable (and underrated) film. Not on the level of
The Incredibles or
Toy Story, mind you, but it was still good.
Chicken Little was just "eh", though. Another anthropomorphic animal movie. Been there, seen that.
Quote from: Goldstar on December 26, 2012, 08:23:25 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on December 26, 2012, 07:52:52 PM
Uh, for whatever reason, Doug skipped straight to Bolt, skipping Chicken Little and Meet the Robinsons.
Okay?
Perhaps Doug didn't see those 2 movies?
Well, you would've expected him to find time for a series like this, right?
If not, this just reeks of one of my biggest problems with Disneycember- overall laziness. If Doug can't find the time to watch at least a couple of movies he's reviewing or even go on a fucking Wikipedia page for research before he starts said review, why bother doing these videos at all?
I've been interested in seeing MTR for a while now due to some comments from people on it... shame I won't see it in this special.
I watched Doug and Rob's review of Bolt in Sibling Rivalry, and in their I believe that Doug made a comment indicating that he kind of hates MTR.
I can understand if he didn't like it at first, but MTR does hold up to repeat viewings.
The second act is what kills it- all flash and no substance in the worst possible way. But the first and third acts are really sweet.
Admittedly, Meet the Robinsons suffers mostly in the middle of the film; most of the extended relatives are really only there to fill up the numbers and to pad out the story, but overall, it's an enjoyable movie and 1 of the better handlings of time travel that I've seen in fiction. Plus, it was a nice change of pace to see a CGI animated film with a mostly human cast.
Wilbur's relatives were unnecessary to the overall plot of the movie, but they were all featured in the book that the movie was loosely inspired by, A Day with Wilbur Robinson. In the book, Lewis visits his classmate Wilbur's home after school and meets his kooky family; the 2 aren't related in the book and there's no time travel plot.
The second act with the family is more or less a homage to the book. No, it doesn't further the story along any, but some of the gags were funny, and like Gold said I can't hate such a sweet, inventive movie which actually focused on humans for a change.
Doug may not have liked Meet the Robinsons, nor was it a major critical success, but it's one of my favorite Disney movies.
Well Doug just put up a Chicken Little video, so maybe he'll get around to MTR as well. I've yet to see either video, but hopefully he has an explanation for why he skipped to Bolt in one of them.
For some reason I haven't felt the desire to check out his non-Pixar videos.
Wow, the quality of the Chicken Little footage used is dreadful.
He obviously found a poor copy of it, and didn't bother to find a better one to use.
Couldn't even bother finding a DVD rip of Chicken Little, could you Doug?
I guess he doesn't feel the need if it's a movie he personally hates.
Here's Meet the Robinsons. (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/disneycember-meet-the-robinsons-6487701)
He's a little more positive than I was expecting him to be, but it does sound like Doug is focusing more on the weird second half of the film, where most of the problems he mentions come from. The Robinsons have their moments, but their shticks get tiresome fast, which is indeed a big problem. But when the movie focuses on Lewis or Goob, it's a lot better.
Granted, I know that John Lasster was a little disappointed with the end result of the film as well. He took over the animation department around halfway through development of the film, if not a bit later, and wished he could have done more with it. But he did add in the quote Doug mentioned at the end.
That movie has always raised my curiosity because it's so strange, but yeah, I don't doubt that it has problems. I would still like to see it someday.
The only time I watched Meet the Robinsons was on Disney XD. I thought it was an enjoyable film. The second act dragged on, but everything else felt like it was trying.
As I mentioned a page back, the extraneous Robinson relatives who bogged down the film's second act were from A Day with Wilbur Robinson, the book that the movie was (loosely) based on; they were really only there to fill out the movie's run time and to pay homage to the book. The only Robinsons who were important to the movie's story were Wilbur, Franny, Cornelius, Bud and Lucille. True, the story could have easily been told without the other Robinson characters, but there were some funny gags in the second act. The scene at the family mansion was a little too long, but it was still one of my favorite scenes in the film.
I'm watching one of Doug and Rob's Sibling Rivalry videos, and he expresses himself a lot better on here than you ever hear him do in his Disneycember reviews.
Maybe it's Rob's influence, but he's a lot more reasonable in their Les Miserables video than any of those.
Also wow, I'm spot-on with Rob on Victor Hugo. I really like Hugo's ideas, but actually can't handle his prose.
Surprise! (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/37827-disneycember-the-wild) Remember The Wild? Well, here it is.
There's an even bigger surprise in this video, though.
I haven't seen The Wild, although I was aware of it. This movie had the misfortune to be released shortly after Dreamwork's Madagascar, so many people (myself included) wrote it off as being a Madagascar ripoff and simply ignored it.
Yeah, I remember reading a review for the movie in my local paper that made a side article stating which animated movies The Wild knocked off. Besides Madagascar, they also unfavorably compared it to Finding Nemo and The Lion King.
Lindsay Ellis, aka the Nostalgia Chick, elaborated on this in her Disney VS Dreamworks reviews. The Wild was one of the films Dreamworks put out when they were just breaking into the industry and many of their movies during this period, be it 100% intentional or not, had a recurring theme of "Screw you, Disney" in them. Shrek was probably the most blatant example of this; that film basically thumbed its' nose directly at the Magic Kingdom's conventions.
When it comes to Doug's obvious lack of research for his videos, another good example is his Grinch review. It's a good video, but he missed on making a great Taylor Momsen joke.
I mean, her character even sang in the movie, yet it doesn't seem like he knows who she is at all. There's a million jokes he could have gone with, but nope.
And this is why I prefer Lindsey (on her own, anyway).
Going back to Bolt (Which I know was a few Disneycembers ago), am I the only one who thinks that the fictional TV show within the movie would've made for a more interesting story than the pets' incredible journey, if a tad cliched?
That might have made it closer to Cars 2 territory, but it probably would have been more interesting. The basic plot in Bolt was pretty dry.
So no Wreck-It Ralph then? Interesting that he ended Disneycember on this.
As for The Wild, I never saw it, only remembered ads for it, and that's about it.
Don Cherry voicing a penguin is literally the only thing I remember about that movie.
Don't forget that one of the main reasons that John Lasseter dropped Chris Sanders from Bolt is that he felt that the plot was developing too similarly to Cars 2 and I believe Toy Story 3 as well. Silver's speculation may not be too far off.
Quote from: Daxdiv on January 01, 2013, 11:20:06 PM
So no Wreck-It Ralph then? Interesting that he ended Disneycember on this.
Well, WIR isn't on video yet, so I can see him ending Disneycember without touching on it for now. Depending on what route Doug goes with for this year's set of films, be it live-action, oddities, or even the sequels, I think he might add Ralph in as a bonus. And maybe Nightmare and Frankenweenie as well.
Todd's top 10 worst of the year list is gold. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/the-top-ten-worst-hit-songs-of-2012-6500013)
This might be a bit late, but have you guys seen Doug and Rob's video discussing The Hobbit?
Their opinions on the movie were vastly different. What's funny is that I agree with parts of both of their arguments. I feel that Rob pointed out flaws that were kind of nit picky and, in all honestly, don't matter. For example, when he mentioned the movie felt like a clash between a massive epic and a child story. Okay, maybe the movie was a little too silly. But honestly, I liked the atmosphere of it. I like that it captures the spirit of the novel as a light hearted journey, with a touch of Peter Jackson's Lord of the Rings flavor.
But on the other hand... Really Doug? Better than the Lord of the Rings films? ... Really? Personally, I don't think it comes close to any of them. Hard to imagine how it could be seen as better than every single one of them. And this is aided by how, in typical Doug fashion, the points he makes against LotR don't entirely make sense and sound somewhat desperate (trying to combat Rob's points about the importance of the council in FotR by saying Gandalf's discussion with the White Council in Hobbit was important cause it let the dwarves get away... nice try, Doug).
Still, in the end, I see the points they both make for and against the movie. For what it is, I do still like The Hobbit.
A very special Christmas edition of Disneycember (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/37945-disneycember-a-christmas-carol)
I actually agree with some of Doug's points. Particularly on the scene were Scrooge is face to face with Cratchit.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on January 16, 2013, 12:44:33 AMthe movie felt like a clash between a massive epic and a child story.
... This is where research comes in.
That's exactly what it is! An epic written for children.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on January 16, 2013, 03:26:27 PM
Quote from: talonmalon333 on January 16, 2013, 12:44:33 AMthe movie felt like a clash between a massive epic and a child story.
... This is where research comes in.
That's exactly what it is! An epic written for children.
That's how I feel. I guess the point he was trying to make is that it felt like it wasn't sure if it wanted to be an adult's fantasy or a children's fantasy. But that's not the feeling I got. I thought it did a good job blending them together.
Doug is bringing the Nostalgia Critic back. Check back on February 5th where he reviews The Odd Life of Timothy Green.
???
That's not nostalgic, though!
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on January 22, 2013, 06:20:32 PM
???
I'm going to be honest with ya... I'm as confused as you are as to why he brought him back.
He made a bit of a mini movie where he had some internal struggle with himself and judging from the video, he's aiming to make a review every 2 weeks for him to be more creative and that he doesn't have that time frame restriction.
Wait, a review every two weeks? Does that mean he's done with Demo Reel, or is he going to alternate between both series?
I'm lost as to why he's doing it since- A) the movie isn't nostalgic, B) the character is retired, and C) the whole reason he was retired is because he's stale.
Also... there's nothing offensively bad about the film to be quite honest. It's a harmless family movie.
So is this a confirmation that Demo Reel bombed hard? I honestly wouldn't know, myself, as I stopped watching it after the 2nd episode, as I'm just not into those sort of Internet skit comedies.
If Lindsay's right (https://twitter.com/thelindsayellis/status/293908182382817280), money seems to be a factor for the return.
I just hope that Doug's reason for bringing back the Nostalgia Critic is what he portrayed in his video: that returning to the NC is his decision and that he actually wants to return to NC because he feels like he can do more with it, and not that he's just caving in to fan wanking.
The modifications made to the NC reviews: a new review every 2 weeks instead of every week and removing the cutoff dates so pretty much everything is fair game, should prove beneficial to Doug and to the NC reviews, so they'll stand less chance of becoming stale and he can avoid being overworked and getting burnt out. Plus, Doug said that he'd continue doing other stuff on the site from time to time.
I kind of feel sorry for the actors hired for Demo Reel, since by all appearances that would seem to be over. I actually didn't mind Demo Reel, though I honestly preferred the first couple of episodes when each installment was a self-contained story (when it started to follow a soap opera style format it wasn't as good IMO) and I hope that maybe Doug and Rob can find something else for those guys to do.
Also: my 100th post. Huzzah!
If he's only doing it for money-related reasons I wouldn't expect the quality to get any better.
That isn't much of a drive for creativity.
Quote from: Avaitor on January 22, 2013, 06:26:37 PM
Wait, a review every two weeks? Does that mean he's done with Demo Reel, or is he going to alternate between both series?
I could be wrong about this, but by all appearances,
Demo Reel is done.
One reason for Doug's resurrecting the Nostalgia Critic is likely financial. ThatGuyWithTheGlasses.com is Doug's job, not just a hobby, and Nostalgia Critic was always the main attraction of TGWTG, so the viewership may have decreased without NC as an anchor to the site. I know that many people only watched the NC reviews and nothing else on the site. I was like that originally until I saw the crossovers with Linkara, Lupa and the others and starting watching their videos as well. It was my younger brother who got me into watching Todd in the Shadows. Still, I hope that the decision to bring back NC was at least partially because Doug still
wants to do it and not because he feels that he
has to, and hopefully he'll still get to do some of the other non-Critic related things that he wants to on the site.
As for
Demo Reel, I had mixed feelings about it; I didn't hate it, but I didn't love it either. It seemed a tad uneven and directionless at times, as if Doug and Rob weren't sure what they wanted the show to be. DR had problems, but it wasn't unfixable. Perhaps the other actors will have something to do on the site if DR is truly kaput. Even if DR failed, I can't fault Doug for wanting to try something different.
I do think it's kind of nice. The Nostalgia Critic's issue was always that it was too frequent and that it burned itself out. So I'm glad he's giving himself more time and more material to work with. Demo Reel was okay, but it never felt like something that had much staying power. To be honest, I do wholly believe that his reason for returning is what he says it is, and not just pure money or giving into what the fans want. I mean, he sounds very sincere in that video in every way.
I've also been feeling like there's more potential recently. I remember thinking that an Old vs. New on The Hobbit would be nice.
Quote from: Silverstar on January 22, 2013, 08:42:21 PM
I kind of feel sorry for the actors hired for Demo Reel, since by all appearances that would seem to be over. I actually didn't mind Demo Reel, though I honestly preferred the first couple of episodes when each installment was a self-contained story (when it started to follow a soap opera style format it wasn't as good IMO) and I hope that maybe Doug and Rob can find something else for those guys to do.
I was thinking about them, too. Hopefully they'll still have a job.
As long as he genuinely wants to bring back the Critic, that's fine for me. Fortunately, it seems pretty clear from that video that he was starting to miss the Critic himself and got new ideas that just came to him. If he's letting himself have more time to do reviews, that should bring the quality back at least a little. Here's hoping the Critic's return works out. :thumbup:
As for Demo Reel, I only watched the first episode, but despite this I still plan on watching the rest of it at some point.
I'm not really surprised. I don't think anyone else on the site can draw in the numbers the way the NC could.
So is he going to review just any movie he wants? Kinda defeats the purpose of a "Nostalgia" Critic. Not that I'm complaining.
Quote from: Graywulf on January 23, 2013, 06:40:39 AM
So is he going to review just any movie he wants? Kinda defeats the purpose of a "Nostalgia" Critic. Not that I'm complaining.
He's kind of stretching the term "nostalgia", saying that basically that any movie can be nostalgic after leaving movie theaters. Which is fine by me.
Yeah, I'm really nostalgic for Looper.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on January 23, 2013, 12:17:56 PM
Quote from: Graywulf on January 23, 2013, 06:40:39 AM
So is he going to review just any movie he wants? Kinda defeats the purpose of a "Nostalgia" Critic. Not that I'm complaining.
He's kind of stretching the term "nostalgia", saying that basically that any movie can be nostalgic after leaving movie theaters. Which is fine by me.
That's a weak sauce excuse in my book.
Quote from: Daxdiv on January 23, 2013, 12:54:12 PM
Quote from: talonmalon333 on January 23, 2013, 12:17:56 PM
Quote from: Graywulf on January 23, 2013, 06:40:39 AM
So is he going to review just any movie he wants? Kinda defeats the purpose of a "Nostalgia" Critic. Not that I'm complaining.
He's kind of stretching the term "nostalgia", saying that basically that any movie can be nostalgic after leaving movie theaters. Which is fine by me.
That's a weak sauce excuse in my book.
Same.
^Perhaps, but the Whatever Critic doesn't have the same ring.
Quote from: Peanutbutter on January 23, 2013, 01:25:13 AM
As for Demo Reel, I only watched the first episode, but despite this I still plan on watching the rest of it at some point.
I sure hope you have something nearby to numb the pain.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FZVLiBarC3k
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on January 23, 2013, 12:54:59 PM
Quote from: Daxdiv on January 23, 2013, 12:54:12 PM
Quote from: talonmalon333 on January 23, 2013, 12:17:56 PM
Quote from: Graywulf on January 23, 2013, 06:40:39 AM
So is he going to review just any movie he wants? Kinda defeats the purpose of a "Nostalgia" Critic. Not that I'm complaining.
He's kind of stretching the term "nostalgia", saying that basically that any movie can be nostalgic after leaving movie theaters. Which is fine by me.
That's a weak sauce excuse in my book.
Same.
Well it's technically accurate, even if it does go against the original meaning of the name. But so what? :P
Quote from: Avaitor on January 12, 2013, 12:59:51 PMTodd's top 10 worst of the year list is gold. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/the-top-ten-worst-hit-songs-of-2012-6500013)
I can't agree. Now, it's true I was as sour on "Where Have You Been" as the haters are now when I first heard it. But... I was wrong. This song is incredible.
Todd's reasons were pathetic as well. Except for the general "lyrics are weak." This is true. But it doesn't matter when they are performed this well. If there is any weakness on Rihanna's part, the production covers it up perfectly. This song will be legend, if it isn't already. It's in the Rihanna Pantheon of Single Greatness now alongside "Umbrella," "Rude Boy," "SOS," "Only Girl in the World," "Hard," "Pon de Replay," "Man Down," "Wait Your Turn," (and, in my book, "S&M").
I will accept no arguments to the contrary; this song rules. If you say otherwise, you don't really get dance / club music.
Uh, well, his top 10 best is up. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/top-ten-best-hit-songs-of-2012-6514691)
So far, I like one of these songs, cause it's provocative.
Edit: Wait, Gotye is only #6? Damn.
Mehhhh, not-Cecilia.
Agh. I haaate It's Time. Radioactive's a far better song.
His #1 is the best Drake song I've ever heard. I'll never forgive him for originating YOLO, though.
Holy shit, he actually has that Ellie Goulding song on there. I love that song! They play it at work all the time and I had to seek it out.
Also, that Bruno Mars song's played at work too, but I only ever hear the chorus. I love The Police, so I really liked the verses. That's fantastic.
I wasn't too hot on this list. No mention of GYHAB at all, but he remembered to give a nod to the Carly Rae Jepsen/Owl City tune. Whoopie.
At least there's no Katy Perry on here this year, though.
Unless "Firework" made it onto any of his previous lists (and if it did: FOR SHAAAAME!), I agreed with his inclusion of "Hot n Cold" and "Teenage Dream" in previous lists. Of course, I'm also seriously out of the loop of popular music and even the artists who still released big singles but they didn't end up on the top 40 (if this is where Todd gets his choices from).
As a Ke$ha fan, though, I would have chosen "Where Have You Been" over "Die Young." (Which, yes, would have left her off the list entirely.)
Quote from: No-Personality on January 28, 2013, 02:19:37 PM
Unless "Firework" made it onto any of his previous lists (and if it did: FOR SHAAAAME!), I agreed with his inclusion of "Hot n Cold" and "Teenage Dream" in previous lists.
I'm pretty sure it didn't, but "California Girls" did, which is even worse, IMO.
Quote from: Nel_Annette on January 27, 2013, 10:23:39 PM
Holy shit, he actually has that Ellie Goulding song on there. I love that song! They play it at work all the time and I had to seek it out.
I've honestly never heard of Ellie Goulding or "Lights" before this list, but I'm definitely purchasing it now.
Quote from: Avaitor on January 28, 2013, 02:40:44 PMQuote from: No-Personality on January 28, 2013, 02:19:37 PMUnless "Firework" made it onto any of his previous lists (and if it did: FOR SHAAAAME!), I agreed with his inclusion of "Hot n Cold" and "Teenage Dream" in previous lists.
I'm pretty sure it didn't, but "California Girls" did, which is even worse, IMO.
Forgot about that.
I'm glad he did though, the video he did after that had some wicked cameos because of it.
Quote from: No-Personality on January 29, 2013, 01:45:48 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on January 28, 2013, 02:40:44 PMQuote from: No-Personality on January 28, 2013, 02:19:37 PMUnless "Firework" made it onto any of his previous lists (and if it did: FOR SHAAAAME!), I agreed with his inclusion of "Hot n Cold" and "Teenage Dream" in previous lists.
I'm pretty sure it didn't, but "California Girls" did, which is even worse, IMO.
Forgot about that.
I'm glad he did though, the video he did after that had some wicked cameos because of it.
That's a good point.
I HAVE HANNAH MONTANA ON MY
MP3 PLAYER, AND YOU STILL DISGUST ME!
So Doug's doing another month. The catch? Its not Disney (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/38121-dreamworks-uary-antz)
I probably should have seen this coming.
I wonder if he'll skip the sequels.
The Best Dreamworks movie (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/38133-dreamworks-uary-prince-of-egypt)
The Most Underrated Dreamworks Movie (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/38137-dreamworks-uary-road-to-eldorado)
$$$ (http://theawesomestore.com/index.php?dispatch=products.view&product_id=29978)
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/38168-nostalgia-critic-the-odd-life-of-timothy-green
Well, that's a pretty decent way to keep the Demo Reel guys around.
You know, when Timothy Green came out, I wondered why it had only 38% at Rotten Tomatoes. Well, the Critic provided some good reasons why. The acting seemed okay from everyone, but if it really is like how Doug made it out, that is some tremendously awful writing and execution from the script.
Anyway, I loved the review. Glad to see Doug did have genuinely good new ideas for Nostalgia Critic. It did seem like he really wanted to be back from that other video, so I hope he's able to put in as much heart and effort into the rest of his videos this year.
And I'm glad he kept the Demo Reel people, their skits were hilarious. I think not having other people to bounce off in his skits is one of the other reasons why Doug started to run out of steam before. Here's hoping the rest of his comeback stays good for a while.
It seems like Doug is taking a cue from Lindsay and is cutting back on using video clips in his reviews to make a joke, and his own twist, is instead making his own skits with his friends to get a laugh.
True, he did pull out some clips, but not too many, and I have a feeling he'll focus more on these skits in his later reviews.
My favorite NC in a long time. That opening with the cat was gold.
Yeah, for what its worth, this NC episode actually made me laugh out loud a few times. Its the first NC in a LONG time to actually be funny enough to make me laugh. If Doug can somehow maintain this level of quality with this future NC videos, then he can take as long as he wants to make them. Really, that's probably the main reason why NC was becoming so dry and stale in the first place. It was becoming more and more of the same old shit without any real thought being put into the jokes. With Doug taking his time on trying to make quality episodes before releasing them, it could make for some far more consistent material than his last couple of years worth of NC videos.
The Chia Child joke made me laugh pretty hard
Got done watching the episode tonight. Now this is the result of the NC taking his time to make sure the episode is top notch.
I also quite liked the use of the Demo Reel people.
Remember when Aardman made Dreamworks movies? (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/38151-dreamworks-uary-chicken-run)
Guess which one Doug doesn't like? (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/38173-dreamwork-uary-shrek)
I have to echo what others are saying about the Nostalgia Critic: he kicked it off again on a strong note. The Timothy Green review was funny, and I was glad to see that the Demo Reel actors still have something to do even though that show's apparently kaput. This may be what Doug needed to do with the NC: put some time and space between the videos and start incorporating other people and other types of jokes. I also liked that fake news broadcast Doug did after the review where he interviewed the Mad Hatter and the March Hare on their drug usage.
As for Dreamworks-uary, I have to admit to never seeing The Prince of Egypt and I never saw Chicken Run or Road to El Dorado all the way through; I've seen parts of each but never tired to sit through them all from start to finish. Maybe I should give these films a real look. Regarding Shrek: it was one of those Dreamworks pictures with a strong "Screw you, Disney!" tone to it. I was able to enjoy the first Shrek movie for what it was, I didn't like Shrek 2 as much as the first one (the original story didn't call for a sequel and the producers admitted that cash was the determining factor for them green-lighting a 2nd movie) but it was still OK, by the time they got to movies 3 and 4 and all of the specials and other things, the Shrek franchise became highly saturated and it degenerated into being the very thing the original Shrek poked fun at Disney's films for being: a money-generating cash cow with little artistic integrity to it.
Those are definitely the better DreamWorks movies before they went over the cliff of blatant consumerism. The best part of Shrek 2 was Puss In Boots who got his own movie which eclipsed every Shrek film.
New NC vid. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/38229-nostalgia-critic-is-twilight-the-worst-thing-ever)
That was a great video. It was really more Doug than the Critic, and that worked to this format's benefit. Why so many people on the Internet care so much about Twilight either way is something I've thought about for the last couple years, and Doug laid out all the reasons why perfectly. His remarks about how Bella is a blank slate and how that's exactly character's like Superman or Wonder Woman used to be when they started out; and when he stated how characters that are blank slates are seen as lazy and selfish by other people were great valid points.
I wonder what the next topic will be in the next one of these?
So it seems Doug is just using the Critic as a way of talking about any movie he wants. Not that I'm complaining. The videos he's done since his return have all been really good. A lack of deadlines can work wonders.
Apparently JewWario is calling it a day, from what I'm told. At least on TGWTG, anyway.
Meh.
I don't think I've ever seen a video of his.
He did cameos on NC and Todd videos, IIRC. That's it.
I remember watching some short video of his reviewing an obscure Yu Yu Hakusho game for the SNES. I watched it because it had to do with YYH, and YYH is awesome! :thumbup:
But, yeah, other than that I'm not familiar with any of his work aside from a few of his video game reviews.
I haven't been watching any of the Blistered Thumbs stuff, to be honest. TGWTG had burned me out on game reviews long before they launched that site.
I saw some of JewWario's early stuff when TGWTG was still rather young. He was...okay, not great. To me, a member of Blistered Thumbs leaving Channel Awesome is just that...another game reviewer leaving. Meh.
He was more of a traditional reviewer, and he was fine with it. I don't think he really fit in with the site's tone, but he wasn't bad for what he offered.
I never saw this, but Doug's top 10 worst cliches. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/30502-dougs-top-10-worst-cliches)
If this was done by the time The Hunger Games came out, he would've probably brought it up a lot for #9.
I've been wanting Todd to tackle this one for a while. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/girl-on-fire-a-pop-song-review-6538681)
So I really like the new Nostalgia Critic episodes. However, I do hope they aren't all in the 40 minute range from now on.
I like the subject of this video. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/38405-nostalgia-critic-does-romeo-and-juliet-suck)
New Todd video is up. A One-Hit Wonderland profiling Eddie Murphy's "Party All the Time".
That was...educational. I didn't know Eddie Murphy actually put out 3 albums.
I read an interview of his where Murphy says that he still writes music and has a lot of songs saved, but hasn't released any of them because there isn't interest in him to return to music.
Quote from: Avaitor on February 26, 2013, 09:23:17 PM
I like the subject of this video. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/38405-nostalgia-critic-does-romeo-and-juliet-suck)
Good thing the NC came to the conclusion that he did. People who look at Shakespeare plays can attempt to pick apart these things. But the truth of the matter is that all Shakespeare was trying to do was tell a story. He wasn't trying to say anything about the intelligence or how mature these characters are. Romeo and Juliet was just written as a love story. The problem is that society turned it into
the love story, the definitive story of true love. And that's not how Shakespeare intended it.
So to me, Romeo and Juliet is still one of the best stories ever told.
Wanna know how bad Doug is with retaining information for his videos? He finished his Dreamworks-uary videos with Kung-Fu Panda 2 and Madagascar 3, literally forgetting Puss in Boots' existence.
He's making up for that by doing it sometime this month, but still.
To be fair, he already did a review of Puss n' Boots back when it came out (and I mean besides just the Bum review). Granted, it wasn't in the style of his Disney-cember/Dreamworks-uary reviews, but he still did talk about the film.
At any rate, I honestly didn't watch most of these videos mostly because Doug kind of fails at making me interested in seeing his outlook on certain films. I just prefer James Rolfe or various other reviews for more serious mini-reviews of this sort since people like that actually do their research and have interesting things to say about what they are reviewing (in many cases informative stuff rather than just personal opinions). There's that, and also that I generally don't agree with some of Doug's common criticisms that he uses for quite a few of these films that I like. Also, he doesn't seem to have a lot of enthusiasm when doing these reviews, in general, which is why they kind of get boring for me.
Yeah, there wasn't musch of a reason to do this for Dreamworks. I'm glad to see how isn't a hater still stuck in like 2006, but the world wasn't asking for him to tackle all of their animated films.
Son of the Mask? DAFT LOVES THAT MOVIE! (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/38483-nostalgia-critic-son-of-the-mask)
The entire theater groaned when that trailer was shown for the first time. That's only happened a few times, I think Seed Of Chucky was another one.
Wait, did he refer to Gromit as the human?
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 05, 2013, 07:28:29 PMThe entire theater groaned when that trailer was shown for the first time. That's only happened a few times, I think Seed Of Chucky was another one.
Seed wasn't half bad. I mean, compared to
Bride, it is fairly bracing that every single sympathetic character in the film is killed horribly. But it was very clever, direct, and had guts.
Another day, another Todd video. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/little-things-by-one-direction-a-pop-song-review-6551534)
Quote from: Avaitor on March 16, 2013, 05:14:59 PM
Another day, another Todd video. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/little-things-by-one-direction-a-pop-song-review-6551534)
Wow. I've never really any One Direction songs before this review, I just knew they were another squeaky clean boy band that folks love to hate and Todd as to be expected wasn't a fan of theirs. But after hearing this single and Todd's breakdown of it, I guess I have an opinion of them now. Those guys really aren't a very good band, are they?
I never saw this one, but this seems like it'll be a good NC review. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/38646-nostalgia-critic-the-king-and-i)
I like this one because Doug put a couple of pics of Demi in it. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/38723-nostalgia-critic-whats-with-the-princess-hate)
Am I the only one that's loved every editorial he's done so far? Every time, he's been able to take something big in pop culture, analyze it and put it into perspective. Not to mention how absolutely unpredictable what his topic will be for these.
Yeah, I've really been enjoying them too. They don't seem to interest a whole lot of people, though.
I might actually like them more than his normal videos.
:P
Todd just pulled out a One-Hit Wonderland. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/one-hit-wonderland-closing-time-6561029)
It's a good video, but do you think that he knows that Tom Waits and Leonard Cohen both have songs about closing time themselves, both of which came out before Semisonic's?
I had a "Closing Time" mini-obsession about two weeks back, strangely enough.
Now it's on Vertical Horizon's hits. ;D
And here (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/38839-nostalgia-critic-farewell-to-roger-ebert) is the NC's farewell video to Roger Ebert. Even though I disagreed with a lot of Ebert's opinions on movies, I do agree that he had such a huge passion for films that I could still always respect whatever he had to say about any given movie.
On another board I go to, one member posted that Ebert could have said in one minute that Doug took eleven to address. I'm inclined to agree, but this was a nice farewell.
I think the point was that Doug just really admires Ebert and his work as a critic, and just wanted to talk about him as much as possible. I can certainly understand that. Its like how I could say what I want to about something I really like in just a few sentences, but typically I'll go and an on about it because I'm just that passionate about it. That's the vibe I got from Doug, here. He seemed to have a lot of passion for admiring Ebert's passion in film....if that makes any sense. :D
It isn't the fact that he has a lot to say, it's more that Doug's vocabulary seems rather limited, which is why it takes so long to say as much as he does. Your replies do expand beyond usual conventions, but you do have a lot to say more often than not. That's not always the case with Doug.
Plus, people would be pissed if the episode was any shorter. :lol:
I think it's interesting to see Doug knows what direction the future of review videos is going in. Unfortunately, he just doesn't do Lindsay's format as well as she does. Meanwhile, she's off with that bound-to-be thankless 50 Shades of Grey rip-off project which is seriously mining just about the least interesting cultural trend going on right now. This will date poorly. Anyway, it really bothers me to see people pat Doug on the back for the same thing she took so much heat for for so long. Oh, no- my bad: he does positive reviews of pop culture stuff. Yet I find his perspective is much more broad than Lindsay's is. As in: he floats more than a little. She aims like a razor-tipped dart and usually hits the bullseye. The most interesting thing about this new project is just how Day he ends up being to her Night. Or how angelic he is to her devil. But even in her 50 Shades of Green (most irrelevant in total because I see she's copying Red Letter Media's format right down to the camerawork), I do see her nailing some really significant points about what is greenlit in Hollywood and what is thrown away. I think what Doug is doing is a good idea but the format needs to be reigned in. If he could stop floating around and tighten up his delivery, he might really have The Subjective View of what we get from Hollywood and so forth is worth- he'd really have something here.
As for his formal reviews, I sat through his first 2 new ones and never felt the urge to come back again. Timothy Green had likely the worst introduction to any of Doug's videos I've ever seen (animal killing and appealing to homophobic viewers with a cheap stab at us through NAMBLA- who only sickos treat with anything but disdain, I'm odd but I'm no sicko and neither are most gay people). Pearl Harbor was a big step-up but... I see he couldn't avoid the impotent, annoying, OTT, and entirely unfunny rage breakdown. In the end, what worked about that review might have been what would work for anyone. PH is a very easy target.
Meanwhile, let's shift the focus to other Tig-wa-Tig'rs... Just wanted to say somewhere (it's pointless making any comments on their Blip video pages).
Finally Phelous reviewed Jason Goes to Hell. The review I've waited years to see and... it was pretty blah. I'm glad to see that he made sure to point out almost all the worst aspects of the movie (he sure stretched the review out long enough, making it 2 parts and all) but I was really hoping Jason being reborn through incest with his sister's corpse (Daniel Farrands clearly was a fan of this film) would get the "A ZOMBIE FISHERMAN!!!" treatment. This is easily one of the worst horror movies I've ever seen and I keep waiting to see Phelous as sharply inspired (in his prime) as he was on Quarantine and A Serbian Film. If neither this or Halloween: Curse of Michael Myers (another one I hate with a passion, which he reviewed in October) doesn't do it for him... what will? He's curiously been moving away from reviewing newer horror films for the most part.
I've been thinking of going back to Mike J. After Basic Instinct 2 and Hills Have Eyes Part Whatever, I decided the torture was in watching him rather than him having to watch these movies. Those videos were terrible and his heart was definitely not in reviewing. I'm definitely curious as to what this new Infomercialism series is about. And... damn it, I really want to see his videos on American Psycho 2 and Teen Wolf Too.
This is months-old news now but I caught Cinema Snob's review of Moment by Moment. Again, he's actually really good with non-horror films (I actually then went back and watched his video on Too Smart for Strangers twice in a row). And sitting through Return to Sleepaway Camp (which I also recently did) reveals why I never watch his horror reviews.
Sadly... I'm really starting to fall out-of-love with Diamanda Hagan. Her last 3 major reviews were crossovers and... Boy, I don't care for crossovers (and I was so dang happy to see Lindsay and Rantasmo hook up... only to watch them try to turn "GURRRRRRLLL!!" into a catchphrase- sadly, the most significant thing about their Disney Needs More Gay video). Although, Lupa and Linkara was okay. And Linkara and Lindsay. And Linkara and Marzgurl. Actually, Linkara and anyone usually works out very well. Diamanda already started losing me with her weird series on that guy who played a rapist priest in his own movies. The third one was amusing, since it had an all-doll cast. But right after that, it's Crossover City. Diamanda possesses Rap Critic and makes him review a movie. Diamanda and JewWario watch something wretched. Diamanda and Spoony watch something (easily the best of her crossovers, thanks to how much more entertaining the film - some Sting the wrestler Turns Religious movie, which looks like a blast - is than the cutaways to her and her co-reviewer). Diamanda and her new wife (also a Blip reviewer (http://blip.tv/the-omega)) review something wretched. Diamanda and Lupa watch something wretched. Then Diamanda does a gangbang review with Oancitizen, Rap Critic, and JewWario and... they watch something wretched. Thank hell for her vlogs with Arnikarian, where I keep hoping she'll review one of the movies she talks about there instead of painful to even watch people review stuff like Zombeak, God of Vampires, The Taint, and the filmography of Bill Zebub... let's hope you never learn who that is. You will kiss Uwe Boll's feet. I was already adequately convinced the apocalypse was coming when I learned of Shatter Dead's existence. And that movie is 20 years old.
Doug talks about new Looney Tunes here. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/38885-nostalgia-critic-the-looney-tunes-show-good-or-bad)
Honestly though, Lola is not that funny. She's more interesting than she was in Space Jam, but still not that funny.
And what on earth is wrong with Duck Dodgers?
I haven't seen Duck Dodgers in years, so I can't comment on whether that show holds up or not, but I remember that I used to like it. However, having the Nostalgia Critic dis good shows is nothing new. Its sort of like how he commented negatively on Batman Beyond, yet gave no real reason as to why (that was when he was going gaga over BTAS). I understand that its obviously not as great of a show as BTAS, but its a damn good show in its own right and a hell of a lot better than what he gave it credit for.
At any rate, I liked this video itself. Though, to be honest, I haven't seen the new Looney Tunes save for one episode, which is ironically the episode that he listed as his personal favorite....and I thought it was OK. I maybe laughed at 2-parts in the episode and found the whole thing relatively amusing, but if that's honestly the best the show has to offer, then I'm not sure if I'd care that much for the rest of it (which is to say that the show would just be OK at best if that were the case).
The best episode I've seen of the show (keep in mind that I haven't seen any of season 2, though) is "Casa de Calma", which didn't even make his list. It's a leftover from the original Laff Riot series, which is what this became, and if the rest of that show was like this particular episode, I think it would've been a lot better. Check it out before you entirely dismiss the show.
I am surprised that he didn't mention the Road Runner cartoons though, which are all FUCKING AWFUL. Maybe he blacked them out?
Quote from: Avaitor on April 09, 2013, 09:04:57 PMHonestly though, Lola is not that funny. She's more interesting than she was in Space Jam, but still not that funny.
What's really funny is the amount of bile I've read people spewing over TLTS' version of Lola. Geez, so much animosity over a drawing. I've heard her being called a "bimbo", a "waste", a "streotyped throwback to 1950's hipster characters" (which makes absolutely no fucking sense), a "TV equivalent to an Adam Sandler movie", and more. Please. All Spike Brandt and Tony Cervone did was take a cipherish OC character with no personality beyond being sexy and turn her into a motormouthed flake. She's not this abomination against God and nature. Relax a little, haters.
Daffy and Lola are the best characters on the show. There, I said it.
Overall, my stance is the same as Doug's for the most part; The Looney Tunes Show is far from being perfect, but by no means is it the worst ever take on Looney Tunes franchise (for me, Loonatics Unleashed still holds that title). A lot of people don't like this shows' version of Bugs, but Doug made a good about how allowing to lose sometimes makes the character more human (about as human as an anthropomorphic rabbit can get, anyway) and more relatable, which is why I've always preferred Daffy over Bugs. Bugs is the kind of person whom I'd like to be, while Daffy is what I fear I am.
I don't get why Doug put Duck Dodgers in the category as Space Jam and Baby Looney Tunes, though. DD was an OK show, as I recall, though it's been a while since I've actually seen it. And BLT was just another "babyfication" show that was aimed at preschoolers. Also, I didn't think that Looney Tunes: Back in Action was all that bad. I can least appreciate the movie for what it set out to accomplish. It had a better story than Space Jam, which was basically a 90 minute Nike ad.
I like Lola. :P
Duck Dodgers was awesome.
My only disagreement with Doug is that Doug Dodgers was good. Well, aside from that I didn't mind Baby Looney Tunes either. Still a great video from him. I'm glad he's keeping these up.
I know who Silverstar is referring to with someone calling Lola a bimbo, and yeah, that's just uncalled for. And while I'm not a big fan of hers on the show, I still haven't seen that many episodes, so maybe she becomes insanely more funny since then. Although he was singing her praises pretty early.
And Doug also thinks that everybodyyyy loves Cars, so he's not exactly a good judge when it comes to perspective.
Quote from: Goldstar on April 09, 2013, 10:35:14 PM
Doug put Duck Dodgers in the category as Space Jam and Baby Looney Tunes
:whuh:
The Looney Tunes Show is okay. Nothing more I can really say about it. Daffy's the only one I kind of like, because he does kind of feel like how Daffy would act in that kind of setting.
Casa De Calma was really good. The rest of the show does absolutely nothing for me.
From season 2, I have been enjoying the show a little bit more than most of the season 1 episodes. My favorite episodes from season 2 so far are Semper Lies, Customer Service, and A Christmas Carol.
Yeah, season 2 was a much better improvement.
Well, looky at what the Snob picked here. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/bj/tcs/38903-the-cinema-snob-beyond-the-valley-of-the-dolls)
Quote from: Avaitor on April 11, 2013, 10:40:56 PM
Well, looky at what the Snob picked here. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/bj/tcs/38903-the-cinema-snob-beyond-the-valley-of-the-dolls)
But.. but.. BVD is a good movie (and I'm not just saying that because Ebert).
Well Brad likes it too!
Really though, it's a great review.
A CAT CREDIT CARD?!! (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/38955-nostalgia-critic-the-cat-in-the-hat)
WHAT THE FUCK THEY USED FAITH NO MORE'S COVER OF EASY IN THIS MOVIE WAS IT WORTH IT FNM WAS IT
So, the NC has been listing off his top 10 favorite characters, but the catch is that he's only revealing one at a time to give them each their own video.
So far, he has revealed his first 2 picks:
10. Edward (Cowboy Bebop)
Eh....I was never a fan of this character, myself. Chalk me up as one of the few people who was indifferent to her rather than either annoyed or enthralled by her. I guess the NC had god reasoning for why he liked this character so much, but either way, she just doesn't appeal to me on a personal level.
9. Doc Holliday (Tombstone)
This is a really good choice. A lot of people like to look down on romanticized versions of real historical characters, but I look at movies like these as works of fiction simply inspired by real life characters. So, in the context of the movie, I think that Doc Holliday is a fucking awesome character. He's got that element of bad-ass that you love to see from one of the heroes in a Western, but at the same time his character has a good deal of depth to it, and he always manages to carry such an unforgettable presence whenever he's on screen.
I think The Grinch is okay (and it at least cultivated its own cult following as well as follow the book) but this movie shows how limited a live adaptation of Dr. Seuss can be. Its a good thing Mrs. Seuss stepped in and told them they can only do animated adaptations. Which I personally think worked as Horton was a great movie and The Lorax was all right even though it had a mixed reaction.
The review was okay but I didn't find it that funny, mostly because I didn't like his interactions with Orlando. That shtick didn't work for me in the Pearl Harbor review, and it didn't work here. I did like when the Critic left to watch the sun though. :D
Y'no, if I was to come up with a list of my 10 favorite characters, my top 2 would both consist of ties with certain characters that I like and relate together too much to separate. But I can't really tell who else would make it, besides for a couple of characters.
So i'm guessing that Doug's favorite ASOIAF/GOT character is Tyrion. I do dig his sense of humor.
I have my own top 10 list, but I don't feel like going into detail with my choices. All I'll say is that I have a character of my own from the series in there.
I have a pretty good guess at who he might give the #1 spot to. Anyone else think they have any idea?
Daffy.
^that or Daria
Although I haven't actually seen these videos, and I do know that Jane has already made his list, so he could have mentioned something about preferring Jane without me knowing.
Can you guess my #1?
Now those are good guesses. Though I thought he said Daria isn't his favorite in the show?
Well maybe it is Jane.
My guess was Batman, though you guys's might be better. Still, I expect him to be top 5.
I'm fairly certain that Daffy Duck will be in the top 3 of Doug's list of favorite characters. He's mentioned that his Nostalgia Critic character is loosely patterned after Daffy.
Doug's #4 choice was Ed Wood.
Well, if he's going this far with real-life people as adapted to film, maybe his #1 is Salieri. Amadeus is one of his favorites, after all. Hell, it could even be Wolfie.
Doug's 3rd favorite character is Mrs. Brisby from The Secret of NIMH.
I was a kid when that movie came out, so my memories of it are vague. I do recall that there were some notable voice actors in it, some of whom would become bigger stars later: 2 of Mrs. Brisby's children, Theresa and Martin respectively, were voiced Shannen Doherty (pre-90210 and Charmed) and Will Wheaton (pre-Star Trek: TNG), and the main comic relief of the movie, Jeremy the crow, was voiced by the late Dom DeLuise.
Whatever you do, stay far away from Secret of NIMH 2: Timmy to the Rescue, which the NC already reviewed.
Only 2 more to go.
Surprise, surprise. #2 was Batman.
Looks like I was wrong about Batman taking his #1. But #2 is very good.
I think I honestly might choose Batman as my personal #1, though.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on April 28, 2013, 08:21:53 PM
Looks like I was wrong about Batman taking his #1. But #2 is very good.
I think I honestly might choose Batman as my personal #1, though.
Which version? I'm assuming the BTAS/DCAU Batman, but I didn't think that it would hurt to ask just to be sure.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on April 28, 2013, 10:39:16 PM
Quote from: talonmalon333 on April 28, 2013, 08:21:53 PM
Looks like I was wrong about Batman taking his #1. But #2 is very good.
I think I honestly might choose Batman as my personal #1, though.
Which version? I'm assuming the BTAS/DCAU Batman, but I didn't think that it would hurt to ask just to be sure.
Doug chose DCAU Batman, and Michael Keaton Batman.
My personal choice would be DCAU Batman specifically. That said, there's very few Batmans (Batmen?) that I don't like.
I can say in my own top 10 (or 12, I guess), that no DC characters make it in.
A couple of Marvel characters do, though.
Might be a good thread idea. Surprised we don't have one already. (Or do we?)
We do not. Pick the right board and start one if you want. :P
Quote from: Avaitor on April 29, 2013, 12:03:51 AM
I can say in my own top 10 (or 12, I guess), that no DC characters make it in.
A couple of Marvel characters do, though.
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmentesenaccion.files.wordpress.com%2F2011%2F03%2Fhellblazer215f.jpg&hash=d37b72e056a9010c8f89e5be10e37c76fbea269a)
Aside from possibly Superman or Wonder Woman, I'm not sure if any superheroes would make my Top 10 Favorite Characters list, not that I ever attempted to get off my lazy ass and compose such a list. I'm not even sure I have 10 choices, unless I were to go by Doug's rules and count both animated and live-action characters from movies and TV shows. A few characters do come to mind, however. Hmmm...
#1 is Atticus Finch and Marge Gunderson.
Did not see that coming.
Atticus Finch is certainly one of Gregory Peck's best and most memorable rolls. I still prefer the book over the film, but they definitely nailed down that particular character, who isn't exactly one of my personal favorite characters of all time, but certainly the best one from To Kill a Mockingbird.
I watched Fargo once a long time ago and barely remember any of the movie, so I can't comment on the other character that he picked.
Overall, it was a good and interesting list, though I can't help but feel that these videos justify what Avaitor said about the NC just a while back after he did his tribute video to Roger Ebert; in that he clearly has a tendency to ramble on and pretty much say the same thing for a few minutes straight. There's also a hint of a "snobbish" attitude to what he says when he speaks in his more serious tone, but I'm pretty sure that's just me looking being incredibly nit-picky. Its still a good list and he did a good job explaining his choices, but he really could have said what he needed to say about each character in under a minute and nothing would have been lost from any of his videos (as in: he could have just made a single 10-minute video for this entire list and that would have probably been better).
I haven't watched Nostalgia Critic in a while, but I couldn't help but watch his latest one, a Top 11 list of his favorite South Park episodes.
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/39093-nostalgia-critic-top-11-south-park-episodes
His List:
11. Christian Hard Rock
10. Brittney's New Look
9. Cancelled
8. Chinpokomon
7. Good Times with Weapons
6. Make Love Not Warcraft
5. The Passion of the Jew
4. The Coon Trilogy
3. Woodland Critter Christmas
2. All about Mormons
1. Osama Bin Laden Has Farty Pants
I'd say it's a good list, in that I understand why he likes these particular episodes so much. Like he said, South Park has so many good episodes it's hard to narrow them down to a list of only 10 or 11. I can't make one on the top of my head, myself, because there are 30-40 episodes that I'd have to choose between and that takes time, although I might do a response list in the South Park thread on the weekend or something.
As for Doug's actual selections, the most surprising ones for me are "Brittney's New Look" and the "Coon: Hindsight" trilogy. From what I've seen, "Brittney's New Look" is almost uniformly hated by most of the fanbase, and I myself, although I get it's message and laughed a fair amount during it, think it's one of the top 5 worst episodes of South Park. Doug also mentioned liking "Raising the Bar" as a similar episode he liked, but I also didn't really care for that one. As for the "Coon:Hindsight" trilogy, while they weren't bad, I felt the arc was one episode too long and not South Park's finest. The jokes about Kenny's deaths and Captain Hindsight and the BP CEO apologies were overrun and got stale fast, and while most of what Cartman did in those episodes was genuinely hilarious, it's sandwiched between all of the Mintberry Crunch, Cthulu cult, and Mysterion stuff, none of which was very funny or paid off all that well. I don't hate the episodes, far from it, but they aren't all that great in my opinion. I much prefer the "Imaginationland" trilogy even though I'm not sure how up on my list that is, myself.
Doug's other picks were solid. "Make Love not Warcraft" and "Good Times with Weapons" are universally loved by most fans so it was unsurprising to see them, and I was expecting "Woodland Critter Christmas." I loved that "All about Mormons" was on his list, as that's one of my favorite episodes to rewatch and he summed up why it's so great perfectly. I also loved hearing why he thinks "Osama Bin Laden Has Farty Pants" is his favorite South Park episode. I've always found it a funny and solid South Park episode, but I was oblivious to all of this context when I was a kid and I obviously didn't watch the episode until a good 7 years after it aired anyway. Dough showed how it's a shining example of how South Park's timeliness and sense of humor is so valuable and why it can still produce a great episode even after all these years, and why it's one of the best animated series in general. So while "Osama Bin Laden" isn't a top favorite for me personally, I totally got where he was coming from.
It was interesting to watch Nostalgia Critic, or a reviewer in general, after not watching one for about 9 months or so now. I should watch some of his post-revival episodes and Cinema Snob again. If JesuOtaku and CR! update, I'll catch their new reviews too.
Huh, no Romney jokes.
Quote from: Cartoon X on April 30, 2013, 07:29:26 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on April 30, 2013, 07:27:20 PM
Huh, no Romney jokes.
???
You would've expected Doug to reference him during the Mormon entry, but nope.
I guess that makes sense, though. He lost 6 months ago, after all.
Huh, some of these episodes are actually my favorite as well, Mostly Good Times with Weapons, Woodland Critter Christmas, Osama Bin Laden, Cancelled, and Make Love, Not Warcraft. As for episodes I like that wasn't on his list, I kind of like Super Best Friends, Trapped in the Closet and Go God Go XII.
Most of those episodes are good choices, but I actually HATE his number 1 choice, being that I never found that episode to be the least bit funny in any way, neither in regard to social commentary or in its Looney Tunes-esque antics. I also find that, while I originally liked Passion of the Jew, that particular episode just doesn't appeal to me too much anymore (though I honestly couldn't give you an exact reason why). The rest of his list was really good, though, IMO. Personally, I think that Chinpokomon should have been higher, myself.
At any rate, its great to see a list like this because I'm tired of hearing nothing but negative things about South Park these days. Everyone's focused on how its not the show it used to be (yet The Simpsons gets a free-pass to this constantly just because of the first 10 seasons, whereas people pretend like the 10+ seasons after that never even existed at all), but I still say that this show has a lot of good episodes that it contributed and that have aged well, and IMO the good still outweighs the bad on the whole, but that's just me, I suppose.
I love every season of South Park so far, for the most part. Here are my pointless and brief opinions on Doug's picks:
11. Christian Hard Rock - YEAH
10. Brittney's New Look - Eh
9. Cancelled - Great
8. Chinpokomon - YEAH
7. Good Times with Weapons - Great
6. Make Love Not Warcraft - Great
5. The Passion of the Jew - Never really liked this episode, to be honest
4. The Coon Trilogy - Eh
3. Woodland Critter Christmas - My favorite episode!
2. All about Mormons - Great
1. Osama Bin Laden Has Farty Pants - Um
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on April 30, 2013, 09:18:34 PM
Most of those episodes are good choices, but I actually HATE his number 1 choice, being that I never found that episode to be the least bit funny in any way, neither in regard to social commentary or in its Looney Tunes-esque antics. I also find that, while I originally liked Passion of the Jew, that particular episode just doesn't appeal to me too much anymore (though I honestly couldn't give you an exact reason why). The rest of his list was really good, though, IMO. Personally, I think that Chinpokomon should have been higher, myself.
You like "Brittney's New Look?" Guess that makes two people. :>
I like both "Osama Bin Laden Has Farty Pants" and "Passion of the Jew." I get good laughs from them and see the former as a continually relevant satirical episode. "Chinpokomon" wouldn't make my top list, but it's also a solid episode.
South Park has a lot of those. ;)
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on April 30, 2013, 09:18:34 PM
At any rate, its great to see a list like this because I'm tired of hearing nothing but negative things about South Park these days. Everyone's focused on how its not the show it used to be (yet The Simpsons gets a free-pass to this constantly just because of the first 10 seasons, whereas people pretend like the 10+ seasons after that never even existed at all), but I still say that this show has a lot of good episodes that it contributed and that have aged well, and IMO the good still outweighs the bad on the whole, but that's just me, I suppose.
??? I see way more hate for
The Simpsons than
South Park when it comes to focusing on the negative episodes over the good ones. I agree with your sentiments that the show still has great episodes and most of them have aged well, and that the good outweighs the shit. There might be like three or four episodes of
South Park I honestly downright hate, and that's a pretty good number for a 220+ episode series. And the good is so fantastic that I can forget the bad, which is why
South Park is my favorite American animated series period. :)
Quote from: Cartoon X on April 30, 2013, 09:29:50 PM
You like "Brittney's New Look?" Guess that's makes two people. :>
Its not like I said its one of my favorite episodes, but I enjoyed it for what it was.
As for Chinpokomon, as someone who used to be really into the Pokemon craze, lets just say that I have a personal appreciation for it. I also think its pretty funny since it pretty much hit the nail on the head about most how most childrens' fads work in general.
I'm not a big fan of South Park, but having watched it myself almost through its duration, I think most of those episodes he picked would have been on my list as well. What he said about the 9/11 episode was spot-on. There was definitely an overwhelming sense of fear and anxiety across the nation, one that thankfully has not been repeated and I hope never does. Many people were anticipating South Park in the wake of it. Heck, some of my classmates and even my US History teacher talked about the episode for a bit after watching it. I personally found the Looney Tunes skits hilarious. The Coon Trilogy, Great Times With Weapons, and Make Love Not Warcraft were great picks too.
I think the problem with the Passion Of The Jew is the same one they themselves mentioned in the commentary. They had absolutely no idea where they were going with it, and it really shows when you watch removed from its time.
I know what you mean. I feel the same way with "Trapped in the Closet" too, honestly. The scientology commentary is strong, but the rest doesn't hold up, and I loved the episode when it came out.
I wasn't even familiar with the song when it came out, so watching it now would probably hurt it worse. I'm fairly certain about nobody remembers that song.
Personally, I think the Scientology episode DOES hold up and was funny just based on its own merits alone. My case in point is that I never actually even knew that Scientology was a real thing when I first watched this episode of South Park....but as you can see, I'm usually out of the loop on a lot of things.
Better than the Melancholia review (easily) (http://blip.tv/brows-held-high/between-the-lines-honey-boo-boo-6582191).
Doug's got another good one out. (http://25.media.tumblr.com/941024d361927eefab0bbaf3ab3a4d1f/tumblr_mir5t6liL61s5k0eto1_500.jpg)
Quote from: Avaitor on May 07, 2013, 09:26:10 PM
Doug's got another good one out. (http://25.media.tumblr.com/941024d361927eefab0bbaf3ab3a4d1f/tumblr_mir5t6liL61s5k0eto1_500.jpg)
Wait, Doug wrote Django Unchained?
Now, here's a blip review that's actually managed to horrify me. (http://blip.tv/brows-held-high/between-the-lines-honey-boo-boo-6582191)
That's what happens when you don't double-check your links.
This is his latest video. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/39172-nostalgia-critic-is-parody-dead)
That was a good one. I agree with Doug that parody's in a pretty sorry state right now outside of the internet. Shows like Family Guy and the so-called 'Movie-Movies' are the worst: they just toss a bunch of topical and pop-culture references all over the place, as if references alone automatically equate jokes, and half of these references either have nothing at all to do with the subject or they'll become extremely dated in short order. ("Look at us! We're referencing Transformers! We're referencing the 'Leave Britney Alone' kid! We're referencing Honey Boo-Boo! We're referencing some movie or TV show from the 80's! LAUGH!!!")
Watching these kinds of half-assed parodies is like listening to a little kid tell you a joke they've made up themselves: you know it's not going to be funny because it has no basis in reality, it's going to reference a bunch of stuff that's on TV and movies right now and anything that looks like a passable laugh will be repeated several times over, as if its' very repetition makes it funnier.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BJ9V3HDCAAIRXzW.jpg)
Apparently, blip now makes people wait 90 seconds if they use AdBlock, which seems to be partly influenced by Linkara's complaining about not getting enough revenue from AT4W. He makes an understandable point, but this is starting to seem familiar to that whole deal with Metallica and Napster.
Plus, there's a great deal of irony in how people who fought for being able to freely use copywritten material are now against the idea of their product being watched for free.
I've never used AdBlocker, although I've been tempted to sometimes. I especially hate how on YouTube, when I'm looking for a commercial, I'm forced to watch another commercial before I can watch the ad I'm looking for! I read last year that some DVR companies may be disabling the ability to skip past commercials in the near future.
I don't particularly like being forced to watch commercials, but at the same time, I understand that programs don't fund themselves. They need sponsors to stay afloat, and sponsors need to advertise. That's how the industry works. I'm not in love with the ads or anything, but I'd rather sit through a couple of inane commercials than have to pay to watch the online programs. As long as there aren't too many of them running at one time, I don't care. I see advertising as a necessary evil.
Doug reviewed Jurassic Park. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/39232-nostalgia-critic-jurassic-park)
Can't wait to see the response to this.
I liked it. It was funny, especially the T-Rex song and its "lines". I'm glad the Demo Reel crew's skits were tied into the review and not too long or dragged out like the Son of the Mask or Catwoman review. Most of all, even if it was just because of the 3D rerelease, it's good to see Doug do a nostalgic review again. And hey, it was a positive review, something we haven't seen in a while too! :thumbup:
I don't mind the movies he's picked since his return, but there's still quite a few 90s movies the Critic never tackled; nevermind the 80s. Just off the top of my head, there's Mom and Dad Save the World, And You Thought You're Parents Were Weird, Don't Tell Mom the Babysitter's Dead, and Stay Tuned. All of those I think would be good episodes.
It was a good video, though he kind of nitpicked at points (Alan clearly knew that baby was a raptor, questioning the logic of cloning in a movie that's not meant to be totally realistic, etc.). I mean, I guess it's kind of in his character and he does it for a laugh, but still. But I'm glad he acknowledges that his issues with the movie don't get in the way. I still think the film is beyond awesome.
Doug takes on Hiddleston fangirls this week. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/39300-nostalgia-critic-why-is-loki-so-hot)
Doug's review this week is A.I. The review itself was all right, but save for a quick Mel Gibson joke, I felt the TMZ skits ran a bit too long. Though that having been said, after hearing TMZ went and pulled a Wisseau on TGWTG I don't mind them too much.
I think the skits in the new episodes in general have gone way too long. It just hurts the reviews' rewatch value for me.
Quote from: Peanutbutter on May 29, 2013, 11:29:32 PM
, after hearing TMZ went and pulled a Wisseau on TGWTG
What's this drama all about?
Doug's editorials are great. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/39451-nostalgia-critic-are-video-games-art)
I love his editorials. Even if they're obvious questions, as long as he can make an insightful and/or funny commentary on them, I don't see anything wrong with them. Something else I love is how unpredictable what the subject is going to be until its posted. Its always at least a little surprising.
Quote from: Daxdiv on May 29, 2013, 11:50:47 PM
Quote from: Peanutbutter on May 29, 2013, 11:29:32 PM
, after hearing TMZ went and pulled a Wisseau on TGWTG
What's this drama all about?
They had a video on YouTube, TMZ got YouTube to take it down and sent them an e-mail.
So, Welshy is leaving. And not like Roses who left but still makes videos (and I hugely recommend checking out her Maniac Mansion Let's Play (http://blip.tv/pushinguproses/let-s-play-maniac-mansion-part-1-featuring-roo-6527329)): he's not making videos anymore, at all. Apparently, he explained why on Tumblr but I haven't subscribed to him yet.
Since I think he was easily one of the site's best reviewers, this is a shame. He had a remarkable ability to deliver dynamic reviews defending films I hate passionately. A good example (http://blip.tv/welshy/welshy-reviews-wolf-creek-5307728) of his extremely detailed style of review. Knowing now that he's leaving really makes me wish he'd chosen to review the Halloween franchise (as he planned to) rather than Saw (which he never finished).
In slightly happier news, at a panel with Linkara and MarzGurl, Obscurus Lupa announced that she might begin reviewing the Nightmare on Elm Street films around the close of the year. (Meanwhile, she's on Witchcraft 7 out of 13 films in that franchise, so it's going to be a long year.)
What do you guys think about Doug's Last Airbender vlogs?
Personally, I like them, since unlike his Disney or Dreamworks videos, he isn't trying to act like an expert nor are his analytical flaws as apparent. With these videos, he's just shooting the shit about the show, and while I'm not much of a fan of it, I just like hearing what he has to say, as the whole thing's new to him.
It's defiantly better than Disneycember and whatnot. He actually sounds a lot like me when I first saw early episodes of the series. I especially what to see what he thinks of the series as a whole when he's done.
I thought he did a great job with Disneycember, but Dreamworksuary wasn't as good. I'm just glad he's doing this, not just because I thought he'd love the series if watched it, but I just think its great that he's willing to go to so much effort just so he can give a good review to The Last Airbender. You just know he's going to be hot when he finally gets to it.
I wouldn't mind seeing Doug do this for Gargoyles or the Disney Afternoon shows since Disney seems to be finally finishing more of their DVD releases.
Speaking of Gargoyles, over the years I have become very critical of his Gargoyles review. I know that it was still a positive review, but IMO he barely touched on the best points of the show and generally didn't seem to have that much respect and appreciation for it beyond the fact that it was dark and written more maturely than the average kids show. I mean, I have to wonder if he even sat down to watch most of the series before reviewing it, or just watched a few episodes here or there. Maybe it just didn't resonate with him that much, but when he indicates that its not really on the level of something like BTAS (which I completely agree with), I couldn't help but wonder if he had really watched stuff like City of Stone, or Avalon, or The Gathering.
I don't think it would be that exciting for Doug to do a series of videos like these for Gargoyles, since he's familiar with the show.
Actually, I really want him to do a vlog set for Buffy and Angel, since they seem to be blank spots in his history. At least that'd explain why Doug didn't reference Buffy in any considerable way with his Editorial on women in the media.
Also, do you ever notice how bad Doug is with names? He's five episodes into Avatar, but still doesn't refer to anyone by their names, just "the prince", "the brother", etc. I can understand if it takes a while to get names down, but dude, this isn't Game of Thrones. You only have like 5 or 6 characters to pay attention to at this point.
I'm pretty bad with names, but even I at least had all of the main characters down after the 2nd episode. So, Doug really has no excuse. He also has no excuse to mispronounce names when he clearly must have heard their correct pronunciation multiple times in the series itself.
Then again, it may be that he does know their names by now, but just feels silly saying them out loud, which shouldn't be an issue, but I could certainly understand that if that's the case.
Quote from: Avaitor on June 08, 2013, 12:13:26 PM
Also, do you ever notice how bad Doug is with names?
Pretty much. Even in his reviews, he'll probably just call an actor by their name, rather than the character they're playing.
Well he got Katara's name right tonight. Progress.
Fuck yes. I hated this movie as a kid. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/39527-nostalgia-critic-master-of-disguise)
I normally try to not go through the opinions of every movie that Doug sees, but this post on his Facebook page has my interest.
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2F7118b35313dea494c6c876d1ecb1072c%2Ftumblr_mof080poNG1s46koto1_500.png&hash=f70c0f12cf20a31229523b1cd1ef91a82fa90e8f)
Hmm, I wonder what angle he'll take on it.
I'm too lazy to screencap right now but I follow bodybuilding hottie Eric Turner on Facebook and he appropriately called the movie Passion of the Superman.
Pretty accurate imo. (Not sure we can count on Doug for that much wit but whoknows.)
Watching a couple more of Doug's series review of Avatar: The Last Airbender. He liked The Great Divide, but he really hated the very end. Honestly, I never hated this episode either myself.
Its kind of funny, I always found that episode to be really mediocre at best, but the ending honestly didn't bother me. On that end, I think that Doug was reading way too much into its message. If you think about it, the ending that we got at least made sense. I'd consider it much more insulting if the message were that such a heated feud got started over such a joke of a thing (I mean a feud in which 2 entire groups of people hold heavy spite and prejudice toward each other). So, with Aang lying about it, he at least got them to settle down enough to get out of the rest of the canyon alive, and its not like there's any evidence that they could ever possibly find to disprove his story.
So far, the only episode that he didn't like was Bato of the Water tribe, which is another average episode to me, but I can see why it didn't really suit Doug. I also found the part where that random Water Tribe guy just entrusted an important document to Aang, a kid he never even met before (he didn't even freaking know he was the Avatar). That was just random. I do think that Doug totally misread into Aang's reasoning for hiding the message from Katara and Sokka, though. I'm not saying its justified, but just that the reason that Doug that it was isn't how I perceived it.
This week's review was really entertaining for me. I feel like Doug is at his best when he reviews an actual nostalgic kids show or movie that he clearly has a passionate hate toward. That's just where his gimmick really lies. Whenever he tries to review something more adult and tries to be analytic on it, I feel that he just stumbles way too much and his videos on that sort of subject material suffer for it. Of course there is the less common gem in this field like his Patch Adams review, but most of the time his assessment of adult material just comes off as boring and unfunny (The Cell is the perfect example of a review like that, even if it is a horrible movie).
His review this week was definitely good. But did the sound quality for Doug's voiceovers seem off to anyone else?
Boris said it sounded off to him over at Toon Zone, so no.
One thing I recently thought of in regards to the Critic is that it's been a while since Doug Walker used his awful high-pitched little kid voice.
This is a very good thing.
New...5th year anniversary special?
http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/the-uncanny-valley-6611096
In the style of V/H/S (an anthology, I mean, not a horror thing... shame).
After Earth is a meditation on nepotism. (http://blip.tv/brows-held-high/brows-held-high-dead-man-6614806)
So the Critic recently made this video. The top 11 stupidest moments in the Lord of the Rings trilogy: http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/39894-nostalgia-critic-top-11-dumbest-lord-of-the-rings-moments
I have to be honest, this was one of those videos where I just didn't get what he was saying at all. Doug just seems to try to see things that aren't actually there. He did manage to make a lot of his "issues" funny, but for the most part, the majority of his issues don't make sense. In this spoiler tag, I'll go through all of his problems and give my responses to them.
Also, he didn't include the Hobbit on this list.
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11. Letting Gandalf fall down an abyss in the first film.
- Uh, yeah, sure. Good luck pulling Gandalf off that ledge when a giant demon is hanging on the other side of him.
10. The numerous false endings in Return of the King.
- I never found this to be that big a deal, but I'll let this complaint go. When I first saw the movie in theaters, I did get tricked, but it was less than he thought. And even so, I never thought it was a problem. It was just more like "Oh, the movie's not done yet. I'll just go right back into be incredibly engrossed in the events".
9. Gimli's reduction to comic relief.
- Gimli retains a level of awesomeness all throughout the trilogy. It's not like his silly parts were the only things the movies did with him. They were used just enough to always be funny (I always laugh in Two Towers when those monster's corpses start piling up on him). Also, he claims Gimli just got sillier and sillier as the movies went on, but honestly, some of his "stupidest" moments were in Fellowship of the Ring. I find it strange that Doug gives an entire section to Gimli, and yet he lets the incredibly tiring comedy with nearly every character in The Hobbit slide. You could make a top 20 list on that movie alone.
8. Legolas' lack of weakness.
- I know what he's referring to. But really, I just found these parts of the movies to be really fun. When Legolas goes shield surfing, and when he takes out that giant elephant with all the orcs on it, I just think it's beyond badass. It's not like Legolas ever struck me as more capable than Aragorn anyway.
7. Pointless wide-angle close-up shots.
- Were these really enough to make the movies worse? Not to mention, the examples Doug gives are bad. He complains about the wide-angle close-up shots of Bilbo when he's giving his speech, but really, that's a big moment. That's when Bilbo is giving his final farewell and is putting the ring on. Is it really not a big deal? Or when Gandalf is saying goodbye and worrying about the ring. I don't think these wide-angle close-up shots are necessary, but they don't detract from the scenes. I honestly never took the time to note them until Doug nitpicked them.
6. John Noble's over-the-top performance of Denethor.
- I'll let this one go. Even though I never thought Denethor was supposed to be very sympathetic, I can see why Doug wouldn't like him. I had no issue with him though.
5. Constant death fake outs.
- These characters are facing a massive world war. People are going to come close to death. A lot. It makes sense, and it's not overdone like he makes it out to be.
4. The ring's connection to Arwen's fate.
- This one I kind of agree with, but not necessarily for Doug's reasons. I found Arwen's conclusion to be unnecessary. To me, it almost just seems like a bullet dodge so that she wouldn't have to make the choice between choosing a mortal or going with her people. This event was cut from the theatrical version, and it's clear why to me.
3. Sam and Frodo's possibly homosexual relationship.
- Really, Doug? Really? Figures that he would take an ongoing internet joke and try to make it into a serious complaint (when I don't think it was ever even intended as that). You know, there was a time in history when two males could show affection and not have everyone scream about how gay they are. Frodo and Sam are depicted as extremely good friends who have a brotherly bond. On this site I recently called Sam the best friend in any movie, and I stand by that. And him climbing down the stairs and seeing the bread isn't supposed to mean that he realizes he didn't eat it. It's the point where he realizes that it was thrown off the ledge by Gollum. He was essentially broken until that moment, which is why he couldn't bring himself to go back initially. I don't see an issue.
2. Saruman's absence in Return of the King.
- I definitely agree with this issue. This should have been #1 on the list. Saruman is the secondary villain after Sauron, and yet Return of the King doesn't even show him, instead just saying that he's powerless and will be imprisoned for the rest of eternity, or something like that. It's barely satisfying, especially considering they had already filmed his death, which can be found in the extended version, and it's awesome. The movie is already 3+ hours long. Would 5 extra minutes really kill it, especially considering said 5 minutes were in the beginning of the film (as Doug stated in an incredibly entertaining fashion). I do find it strange that Doug had to go exclusively into the theatrical version for this Saruman complaint, while he had to dig into the extended version for the problem of Arwen's fate. Seems like he's stretching a little to finish the list. But that aside, I definitely agree with his problem here.
1. The eagles neglected chance to save the world.
- I have to say, I should have been prepared for the possibility that Doug would top his list with the most least deserving entry of the list, but somehow I still didn't expect this. Okay, first of all Doug, the use and lack thereof of the eagles at various points is given a valid reason. He mentions people trying to justify it that "The eagles are godlike creatures"? Damn right they are. The Lord of the Rings has a set of rules that it follows, and it clearly takes a lot of influence from religion. The comparisons with Christianity couldn't be more obvious. No matter what, this journey is a task that the people need to do. God was able to open up the sea for Moses to lead his people through. He didn't swoop them up and carry them across the ocean. Jesus needed to carry the burden of the cross, much like Frodo needed to carry the burden of the ring. More than everything else here, this choice should not even come close to being on this list.
That was fun to write. :sweat:
So tl;dr, of his 11 stupid moments, I can only understand 4/11 of them, and I can only really agree with 2. Sometimes I just don't get Doug, and this list is a prime example.
#2 basically proves that he didn't watch the extended cut version... which is basically the only way to watch them. Because Saruman IS in Return Of The King. But then we would complain about the length again, right?
#11 that it proves that the characters aren't idiots.
The false ending thing doesn't make sense because it's a trilogy of plots that has dozens of characters and subplots, throwing the ring in and rolling the credits solves nothing and only requires a bit of patience to sit through. I know we live in the ADD generation, but come on.
That said I disagree with all of his list. Sam and Frodo were basically brothers, I know we like to read too deep into everything these days but they were really just friends. I'm not sure why that has to be so hard for people to understand especially when that was obviously Tolkien's intent.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 15, 2013, 05:30:02 PM
#2 basically proves that he didn't watch the extended cut version... which is basically the only way to watch them. Because Saruman IS in Return Of The King. But then we would complain about the length again, right?
#11 that it proves that the characters aren't idiots.
The false ending thing doesn't make sense because it's a trilogy of plots that has dozens of characters and subplots, throwing the ring in and rolling the credits solves nothing and only requires a bit of patience to sit through. I know we live in the ADD generation, but come on.
That said I disagree with all of his list. Sam and Frodo were basically brothers, I know we like to read too deep into everything these days but they were really just friends. I'm not sure why that has to be so hard for people to understand especially when that was obviously Tolkien's intent.
#2 is valid cause people shouldn't have to watch the extended edition to get closure on Saruman's character. It's a complete mystery as to why the theatrical version left that out. I might be inclined to argue the point that the extended version is the only way to watch them.
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Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 15, 2013, 05:30:02 PM
#2 basically proves that he didn't watch the extended cut version... which is basically the only way to watch them. Because Saruman IS in Return Of The King. But then we would complain about the length again, right?
#11 that it proves that the characters aren't idiots.
The false ending thing doesn't make sense because it's a trilogy of plots that has dozens of characters and subplots, throwing the ring in and rolling the credits solves nothing and only requires a bit of patience to sit through. I know we live in the ADD generation, but come on.
That said I disagree with all of his list. Sam and Frodo were basically brothers, I know we like to read too deep into everything these days but they were really just friends. I'm not sure why that has to be so hard for people to understand especially when that was obviously Tolkien's intent.
#2 is valid cause people shouldn't have to watch the extended edition to get closure on Saruman's character. It's a complete mystery as to why the theatrical version left that out. I might be inclined to argue the point that the extended version is the only way to watch them.
It would be if you knew that the extended version is the intended version that was cut down because of the studio. If they didn't make Jackson cut footage to appease theaters for extra showings then the extended cut would be the only version. So yes, it's the proper version and if you don't want to watch it that's your deal. But it doesn't change the fact that you're going out of your way to not see a version that addresses your concerns to complain about an issue that couldn't otherwise be addressed.
Unless you want to argue the theatrical version of movies like Blade Runner are the only ones that count.
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Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 15, 2013, 05:30:02 PM
#2 basically proves that he didn't watch the extended cut version... which is basically the only way to watch them. Because Saruman IS in Return Of The King. But then we would complain about the length again, right?
#11 that it proves that the characters aren't idiots.
The false ending thing doesn't make sense because it's a trilogy of plots that has dozens of characters and subplots, throwing the ring in and rolling the credits solves nothing and only requires a bit of patience to sit through. I know we live in the ADD generation, but come on.
That said I disagree with all of his list. Sam and Frodo were basically brothers, I know we like to read too deep into everything these days but they were really just friends. I'm not sure why that has to be so hard for people to understand especially when that was obviously Tolkien's intent.
#2 is valid cause people shouldn't have to watch the extended edition to get closure on Saruman's character. It's a complete mystery as to why the theatrical version left that out. I might be inclined to argue the point that the extended version is the only way to watch them.
It would be if you knew that the extended version is the intended version that was cut down because of the studio. If they didn't make Jackson cut footage to appease theaters for extra showings then the extended cut would be the only version. So yes, it's the proper version and if you don't want to watch it that's your deal. But it doesn't change the fact that you're going out of your way to not see a version that addresses your concerns to complain about an issue that couldn't otherwise be addressed.
Unless you want to argue the theatrical version of movies like Blade Runner are the only ones that count.
I don't like some of the scenes in the extended versions.
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Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 15, 2013, 06:27:24 PM
Quote from: talonmalon333 on July 15, 2013, 06:13:40 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 15, 2013, 05:30:02 PM
#2 basically proves that he didn't watch the extended cut version... which is basically the only way to watch them. Because Saruman IS in Return Of The King. But then we would complain about the length again, right?
#11 that it proves that the characters aren't idiots.
The false ending thing doesn't make sense because it's a trilogy of plots that has dozens of characters and subplots, throwing the ring in and rolling the credits solves nothing and only requires a bit of patience to sit through. I know we live in the ADD generation, but come on.
That said I disagree with all of his list. Sam and Frodo were basically brothers, I know we like to read too deep into everything these days but they were really just friends. I'm not sure why that has to be so hard for people to understand especially when that was obviously Tolkien's intent.
#2 is valid cause people shouldn't have to watch the extended edition to get closure on Saruman's character. It's a complete mystery as to why the theatrical version left that out. I might be inclined to argue the point that the extended version is the only way to watch them.
It would be if you knew that the extended version is the intended version that was cut down because of the studio. If they didn't make Jackson cut footage to appease theaters for extra showings then the extended cut would be the only version. So yes, it's the proper version and if you don't want to watch it that's your deal. But it doesn't change the fact that you're going out of your way to not see a version that addresses your concerns to complain about an issue that couldn't otherwise be addressed.
Unless you want to argue the theatrical version of movies like Blade Runner are the only ones that count.
I don't like some of the scenes in the extended versions. Mouth of Sauron for example was lame.
I don't really have any issues with them, but they do answer some questions that otherwise wouldn't have fit. The final battle with Saruman if left in the theatrical cut would have jarred the entire pacing of ROTK as it was and people would have complained
even more about how slow it was.
The point is that his issue was addressed in a version that he chose not to see. That's not a valid complaint if he chose to not want his complaint addressed.
This is one of those cases where I strangely agree completely with all of Talon's post. Oh my! :huh:
But, yeah, I REALLY think that most of this list was a stretch. I've always been annoyed how Doug seems to have some unnatural bias against certain popular movies and feel the need to critique them more extensively, even if a good number of those critiques are fucking stupid and due to Doug's own misinterpretation of the material. At least he still likes TLOTR trilogy, but what really annoys me is how insanely biased he is toward the Harry Potter series. I mean, I'm not the biggest fan of it anymore, but I still like the series enough where it ticks me off when Doug throws criticisms at it and its clear that he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. And if people point out that his information is flat-out wrong or that he's missing a clear explanation for something, he either completely ignores it or just brushes it off as crazy fan-boys. Sometimes Doug just needs to learn to accept when he's wrong about some of his criticisms and that he needs to make sure that he does his freaking research before really criticizing something. Its a lot of work, sure, but that's what being a critic is, otherwise just any person could be a critic and there'd be no prestige or dignity to the job at all.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on July 15, 2013, 06:36:00 PM
This is one of those cases where I strangely agree completely with all of Talon's post. Oh my! :huh:
But, yeah, I REALLY think that most of this list was a stretch. I've always been annoyed how Doug seems to have some unnatural bias against certain popular movies and feel the need to critique them more extensively, even if a good number of those critiques are fucking stupid and due to Doug's own misinterpretation of the material. At least he still likes TLOTR trilogy, but what really annoys me is how insanely biased he is toward the Harry Potter series. I mean, I'm not the biggest fan of it anymore, but I still like the series enough where it ticks me off when Doug throws criticisms at it and its clear that he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. And if people point out that his information is flat-out wrong or that he's missing a clear explanation for something, he either completely ignores it or just brushes it off as crazy fan-boys. Sometimes Doug just needs to learn to accept when he's wrong about some of his criticisms and that he needs to make sure that he does his freaking research before really criticizing something. Its a lot of work, sure, but that's what being a critic is, otherwise just any person could be a critic and there'd be no prestige or dignity to the job at all.
It's strange because I still like Harry Potter and actually manage to like it even more since the hype train around it has moved on. It's just a good adventure series with a lot of good characters that's fun to read/watch. I still find most of the hate around it to be fantastically overblown. It's nowhere near the level of Twilight or the 50 Shades Of Grey nonsense.
But I also notice that a lot of the LOTR complaints are usually leveled at people that put the Star Wars trilogy on a pedestal. LOTR is no threat to Star Wars, it was around long before it for crying out loud.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 15, 2013, 06:33:26 PM
I don't really have any issues with them, but they do answer some questions that otherwise wouldn't have fit. The final battle with Saruman if left in the theatrical cut would have jarred the entire pacing of ROTK as it was and people would have complained even more about how slow it was.
The point is that his issue was addressed in a version that he chose not to see. That's not a valid complaint if he chose to not want his complaint addressed.
The scene in Return of the King with Saruman was only 5 minutes. It wouldn't hurt the pacing at all. And as the critic says in his video, it takes place in the very beginning of the movie. I doubt anyone would've found themselves bored with it. He's seen the extended version, and thinks it was a dumb idea to exclude it from the theatrical version for no reason. Likewise, I'd say the theatrical version of Blade Runner is lame for its narration. The point where I find it invalid is that he criticizes the theatrical version for no Saruman, but then criticizes the extended version for the Arwen subplot. Now he's really cherry picking.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on July 15, 2013, 06:36:00 PM
This is one of those cases where I strangely agree completely with all of Talon's post. Oh my! :huh:
Good job. You're finally moving up in the world.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on July 15, 2013, 06:36:00 PMBut, yeah, I REALLY think that most of this list was a stretch. I've always been annoyed how Doug seems to have some unnatural bias against certain popular movies and feel the need to critique them more extensively, even if a good number of those critiques are fucking stupid and due to Doug's own misinterpretation of the material. At least he still likes TLOTR trilogy, but what really annoys me is how insanely biased he is toward the Harry Potter series. I mean, I'm not the biggest fan of it anymore, but I still like the series enough where it ticks me off when Doug throws criticisms at it and its clear that he doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. And if people point out that his information is flat-out wrong or that he's missing a clear explanation for something, he either completely ignores it or just brushes it off as crazy fan-boys. Sometimes Doug just needs to learn to accept when he's wrong about some of his criticisms and that he needs to make sure that he does his freaking research before really criticizing something. Its a lot of work, sure, but that's what being a critic is, otherwise just any person could be a critic and there'd be no prestige or dignity to the job at all.
I agree with everything here. Though I didn't know he hates the Harry Potter series.
Also, since we were talking about Spider-Man the other day, I remember seeing his review of The Amazing Spider-Man and just thinking about how condenscending he was acting toward Sam Raimi Spider-Man fans. He does that a lot.
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I don't really have any issues with them, but they do answer some questions that otherwise wouldn't have fit. The final battle with Saruman if left in the theatrical cut would have jarred the entire pacing of ROTK as it was and people would have complained even more about how slow it was.
The point is that his issue was addressed in a version that he chose not to see. That's not a valid complaint if he chose to not want his complaint addressed.
The scene in Return of the King with Saruman was only 5 minutes. It wouldn't hurt the pacing at all. And as the critic says in his video, it takes place in the very beginning of the movie. I doubt anyone would've found themselves bored with it. He's seen the extended version, and thinks it was a dumb idea to exclude it from the theatrical version for no reason. Likewise, I'd say the theatrical version of Blade Runner is lame for its narration. The point where I find it invalid is that he criticizes the theatrical version for no Saruman, but then criticizes the extended version for the Arwen subplot. Now he's just cherry picking.
It would have jarred because how it stops the entire story to deal with a single plot point. It was taken out because there was little else they could have taken out that wouldn't have made the rest of the movie confusing since ROTK is so tight despite its length. Also:
QuoteHe's seen the extended version, and thinks it was a dumb idea to exclude it from the theatrical version for no reason
So it's a made-up critique? Because that's admitting he's cherry-picking for complaints. What else would they have cut from ROTK to appease the studio and theaters? The point is that it was something he had little choice in cutting and it is not an issue because he rectified it in the Extended Cut which is the point of the Extended Cut to rectify the studio making him cut up the films for theatrical distribution.
And it would be equally silly to make a complaint list about Blade Runner to complain about lame narration when there's a version that addresses my concerns.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 15, 2013, 06:51:05 PMIt would have jarred because how it stops the entire story to deal with a single plot point. It was taken out because there was little else they could have taken out that wouldn't have made the rest of the movie confusing since ROTK is so tight despite its length. Also:
QuoteHe's seen the extended version, and thinks it was a dumb idea to exclude it from the theatrical version for no reason
So it's a made-up critique? Because that's admitting he's cherry-picking for complaints. What else would they have cut from ROTK to appease the studio and theaters? The point is that it was something he had little choice in cutting and it is not an issue because he rectified it in the Extended Cut which is the point of the Extended Cut to rectify the studio making him cut up the films for theatrical distribution.
And it would be equally silly to make a complaint list about Blade Runner to complain about lame narration when there's a version that addresses my concerns.
I just think movie viewers should be able to get a fully conclusive story from seeing it in theaters. But as things were, when it hit theaters a decade ago, many viewers including myself came out of the theater thinking "Where was Saruman?". Heck, Christopher Lee left thinking the same thing. That's not a good thing for a movie to do. People shouldn't have to seek out a DVD to see a scene this important, especially when it lasts no more than 5 minutes.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on July 15, 2013, 10:54:46 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 15, 2013, 06:51:05 PMIt would have jarred because how it stops the entire story to deal with a single plot point. It was taken out because there was little else they could have taken out that wouldn't have made the rest of the movie confusing since ROTK is so tight despite its length. Also:
QuoteHe's seen the extended version, and thinks it was a dumb idea to exclude it from the theatrical version for no reason
So it's a made-up critique? Because that's admitting he's cherry-picking for complaints. What else would they have cut from ROTK to appease the studio and theaters? The point is that it was something he had little choice in cutting and it is not an issue because he rectified it in the Extended Cut which is the point of the Extended Cut to rectify the studio making him cut up the films for theatrical distribution.
And it would be equally silly to make a complaint list about Blade Runner to complain about lame narration when there's a version that addresses my concerns.
I just think movie viewers should be able to get a fully conclusive story from seeing it in theaters. But as things were, when it hit theaters a decade ago, many viewers including myself came out of the theater thinking "Where was Saruman?". Heck, Christopher Lee left thinking the same thing. That's not a good thing for a movie to do. People shouldn't have to seek out a DVD to see a scene this important, especially when it lasts no more than 5 minutes.
Unfortunately, that's not the way it works. What the studio says goes. It was why FOX wouldn't let any X-Men movies by longer than a certain length after X2 and all those movies suffered for it. The studios and theaters want movies a specific length so they can get more showings and more money, they don't care if someone doesn't get to see Saruman.
But luckily in the case of LOTR (and even movies like Lethal Weapon, Blade Runner, and Superman II) the director had been given a chance to put the cut he intended out. And because studios don't have to negotiate time for money, they don't particularly care if they get released so people who want the extra material can see them.
Anyway, the scene exists and is in the movie. Saying "it's not there" when it is available is being unbelievably pedantic. I'm not even sure what's so bad about watching the extended version of ROTK in the first place, it's excellent.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 15, 2013, 11:05:12 PMUnfortunately, that's not the way it works. What the studio says goes. It was why FOX wouldn't let any X-Men movies by longer than a certain length after X2 and all those movies suffered for it. The studios and theaters want movies a specific length so they can get more showings and more money, they don't care if someone doesn't get to see Saruman.
But luckily in the case of LOTR (and even movies like Lethal Weapon, Blade Runner, and Superman II) the director had been given a chance to put the cut he intended out. And because studios don't have to negotiate time for money, they don't particularly care if they get released so people who want the extra material can see them.
Anyway, the scene exists and is in the movie. Saying "it's not there" when it is available is being unbelievably pedantic. I'm not even sure what's so bad about watching the extended version of ROTK in the first place, it's excellent.
I never said there's anything bad about watching the extended version, or even anything to suggest that it's worse than the theatrical cut. That's not even relevant to what I'm saying here. I just think a viewer should get the conclusive story and not have to pay extra for it. I also imagine that, of all the 200 minutes in that movie (or however long the theatrical version is), there has to be something in it that could've been cut instead of the death and conclusion of one of the series main villains.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on July 15, 2013, 11:21:34 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 15, 2013, 11:05:12 PMUnfortunately, that's not the way it works. What the studio says goes. It was why FOX wouldn't let any X-Men movies by longer than a certain length after X2 and all those movies suffered for it. The studios and theaters want movies a specific length so they can get more showings and more money, they don't care if someone doesn't get to see Saruman.
But luckily in the case of LOTR (and even movies like Lethal Weapon, Blade Runner, and Superman II) the director had been given a chance to put the cut he intended out. And because studios don't have to negotiate time for money, they don't particularly care if they get released so people who want the extra material can see them.
Anyway, the scene exists and is in the movie. Saying "it's not there" when it is available is being unbelievably pedantic. I'm not even sure what's so bad about watching the extended version of ROTK in the first place, it's excellent.
I never said there's anything bad about watching the extended version, or even anything to suggest that it's worse than the theatrical cut. That's not even relevant to what I'm saying here. I just think a viewer should get the conclusive story and not have to pay extra for it. I also imagine that, of all the 200 minutes in that movie (or however long the theatrical version is), there has to be something in it that could've been cut instead of the death and conclusion of one of the series main villains.
My point is that the scene IS in a version of the film and he's acting like it isn't because he only wants a bullet point for his list. And to do this he is pretending that the extended cut doesn't exist or count.
Yes, they probably could have cut something out... somehow. Even though there was little else to edit that wouldn't cut the flow as little as a sub-plot that has nothing much to do with the rest of the film and stops the film cold to deal with it. But they didn't. The fact of the matter is that it really doesn't matter because it's in the full version of the film and readily available to watch for anyone who wants the complete film.
My point is that his complaint hasn't been relevant for over decade. For what it's worth, you can get the extended cut for peanuts these days.
Like I better get started on my Blade Runner list and put the narration down for a flaw, after all it must apply to every version because why should a list apply to every version when I can cherry-pick a single version and ignore the version that addresses my complaint?
We might as well agree to disagree at this point. I think a good comparison for me to make to sum up my side is that, if I were to make a top list of the dumbest Star Wars moments, I'd feel inclined to include changes made in the Special Editions, such as Greeto shooting first and Vader screaming "Noooooo!" when the Emperor is killing Luke. I feel the list idea is suppose to encompass everything Star Wars (or rather, in this case, Lord of the Rings) and that includes various versions of it... even if it's only to fill up space. Because don't forget, I still think Doug's idea to make a Lord of the Rings list is lame, almost as lame as the list itself. :P
Quote from: talonmalon333 on July 16, 2013, 04:02:11 PM
We might as well agree to disagree at this point. I think a good comparison for me to make to sum up my side is that, if I were to make a top list of the dumbest Star Wars moments, I'd feel inclined to include changes made in the Special Editions, such as Greeto shooting first and Vader screaming "Noooooo!" when the Emperor is killing Luke. I feel the list idea is suppose to encompass everything Star Wars (or rather, in this case, Lord of the Rings) and that includes various versions of it... even if it's only to fill up space. Because don't forget, I still think Doug's idea to make a Lord of the Rings list is lame, almost as lame as the list itself. :P
I'm fine with that, but I wouldn't even care about the Star Wars issues if Lucas would at least let people see the original versions.
You can see the original versions... They are just in a small TV format and at best are relegated to "Special Features" in most Star Wars sets. :P
I kind of wish that Doug would save his Top 11s for his Editorials space and just do his NC reviews when he's supposed to.
I find it hard to believe that Doug will run out of things to review.
Quote from: Avaitor on July 16, 2013, 05:19:50 PM
I kind of wish that Doug would save his Top 11s for his Editorials space and just do his NC reviews when he's supposed to.
I find it hard to believe that Doug will run out of things to review.
Well most of us are just laughing at his Top 11 LotR list. So I'd say it fits alongside his NC comedic reviews. :P
Speaking of his editorials, the newest one is up. This one sounds very interesting.
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/39964-nostalgia-critic-is-it-right-to-nitpick
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on July 15, 2013, 06:36:00 PMSometimes Doug just needs to learn to accept when he's wrong about some of his criticisms and that he needs to make sure that he does his freaking research before really criticizing something. Its a lot of work, sure, but that's what being a critic is, otherwise just any person could be a critic and there'd be no prestige or dignity to the job at all.
Doug Walker is less a critic and more of a comedian. I met him in person at Connecticon last weekend, attended one of his panels. Doug Walker and the Nostalgia Critic are very different personas. While they share a lot of opinions, Doug in real life is much more down to earth and humble about it all.
He hosted a panel called "Movies Everyone Disagrees With You On" which was basically people admitting to loving unpopular movies, hating popular movies and why they felt this way. He stretched at the beginning that no one is wrong and that discussing differing opinions on movies are, in his opinion, a good way to get to know someone.
Quote from: GregX on July 18, 2013, 06:48:08 PM
Doug Walker is less a critic and more of a comedian. I met him in person at Connecticon last weekend, attended one of his panels. Doug Walker and the Nostalgia Critic are very different personas. While they share a lot of opinions, Doug in real life is much more down to earth and humble about it all.
He hosted a panel called "Movies Everyone Disagrees With You On" which was basically people admitting to loving unpopular movies, hating popular movies and why they felt this way. He stretched at the beginning that no one is wrong and that discussing differing opinions on movies are, in his opinion, a good way to get to know someone.
Its true that the NC is just a character, but even in some of his videos where he gives his serious opinions on things (like in Sibling Rivalry, for example) he has a tendency every now and then to throw out criticisms that are actually addressed in the movie, but which he missed. I don't mind it that much usually, but sometimes he'll point something like that out as a major flaw of the movie when it is addressed and he may have just missed it on his first viewing or interpreted it differently from everyone else, which is where I think some people might get a little ticked off with him.
At any rate, my post reads a bit harsher than I meant to sound. I really don't have a problem with his opinions on stuff he likes or doesn't like. I'm always cool with differing opinions. Its just that when you do try to make legitimate criticisms of a work, it is best to make sure you are at least not missing some pretty significant detail in that very work that may counteract your criticism. Of course, that's bound to happen every now and then, but I suppose I've just noticed Doug do it a little bit more than I'd like, but whatever, its his opinion so I don't really dwell on it that much.
Quote from: GregX on July 18, 2013, 06:48:08 PM
He hosted a panel called "Movies Everyone Disagrees With You On" which was basically people admitting to loving unpopular movies, hating popular movies and why they felt this way. He stretched at the beginning that no one is wrong and that discussing differing opinions on movies are, in his opinion, a good way to get to know someone.
Ooh, I hope that one is up online soon.
The first part of Uncanny Valley (5th anniversary special) is now up. It's called Dragon Bored.
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/40048-the-uncanny-valley-dragonbored
Okay, just watched all of it. Some of the jokes are flat, but I had quite a few good chuckles with it, and the acting was actually not half bad. Even Doug did a great job with his character. I also like the dude they got to play the jackass pencil pusher, he was really good. Doug apparently directed this too.
"Dragon Bored" was a little longer than it needed to be, but it was decent enough.
I liked Sci-Fi Guy's entry, "Dragged In" a little more, honestly. It was much shorter, so it never dragged and I liked the sudden absurd turn it took.
We're only 2 shorts in, but I have to say, I like this idea of several shorts by various contributors better than everybody partaking in one giant story. This way the various teams can more effectively concentrate on their work since they don't have to accommodate everyone else and the stories aren't dragged out.
Well, now that all of the Uncanny Valley shorts have been released, I can offer my 2 cents on them:
"Dragonbored": Amusing Twilight Zone-esque premise, well-acted, but a little long.
"Dragged In": I liked this one for sheer absurdity. It had you thinking it was going to be something intense and serious, then it took a complete 180 turn to the extremely silly.
"The Reviewers": This is when the UV shorts stopped having supernatural sci-fi twists, which I'm sure annoyed some people, but the shorts could be about anything, it was never carved in stone that they had to be sci-fi themed. "Reviewers" was pure Team Snob, offering an inside look/cautionary tale about the ins and outs of internet review shows and the belief held by folks that you can achieve instant fame by having one. "Reviewers" struck kid of a chord with me, 'cause I've been thinking about launching an online show of some kind. The best bit was the Messiah show with Brad as a former child star who appeared in 'The Genius', an obvious parody of The Wizard.
"Internet Dating and Me": Another relatively straight premise (Mike J embarking on online dating) made entertaining by surprise cameos (Hagan and Mathew Buck) and some twisted humor.
"The Dark Side of the Internet": I'm sure Welshy's short ticked a lot of people off since it didn't try to be funny or even tell a narrative story; it was a straight mini-PSA documentary about online celebrity and the dangers of online communication, but I thought it was well-done for what it was. Having gone through my own fair share of crappy experiences with other people on the internet, I took this one to heart. Getting Lupa, Phelous, Linkara, Sad Panda and others to participate was a nice touch.
I only watched Mike J's short (I try to avoid the anniversary stuff as I've never found it entertaining.) but I really do like how in the first act, he thinks he's god's gift to humanity. The way he does it in his same, straight-faced monotone voice is just hilarious.
Here's a cool editorial for Batman: TAS fans. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/40126-nostalgia-critic-batman-season-4-hit-or-miss)
It's fascinating, but as someone who doesn't care for the anniversary specials, I'm annoyed at how we didn't get an actual NC video this week because of it.
Also, TNBA Joker is Roger Klotz. I wish Doug called that out.
Dragonbored and The Reviewers are good. I haven't bothered watching the rest yet but I plan to sometime.
Saw that Batman TAS video, and I largely agree with him. Batman's fourth season isn't as good as the earlier seasons. It's not even necessarily one of my favorite seasons in the entire DCAU. But it's got some good stuff in there.
Over the Edge is certainly one of my all time favorites.
Yeah, I can agree with Doug, here. Season 4 on the whole was very lopsided in quality, but it did bring us some of the best episodes in the entire series, including Mad Love, so its definitely not a bad season on the whole.
Yeah, volume 4 is probably the weakest as a whole, but let's be real, it's not like the first 3 volumes are completely solid themselves. Some of the changes work better than others, but I'm glad that TNBA was made.
So, the Nostalgia Critic just reviewed Sailor Moon, or at least his interpretation of the dub. As someone who hasn't seen much of the show beyond the dub in the first place, I can't really disagree with any of the NC's points. As a piece of nostalgia, it has its place, but it just doesn't hold up very well as a legitimately good show. I can't really say anything about the Japanese version of the show as I never watched more than a few episodes of it, so I can't really judge it.
Oh wow, I gotta see this.
I really should read the manga sometime. I like the idea of the show and the original anime is fun in doses, but even that shows its flaws if watched in succession. I believe the manga is better.
The only thing I remember about Sailor Moon is some monster-of-the-week with soccer ball boobies. .3.
There were parts of the dub of Sailor Moon that I knew were not going to hold up well in ten years. I remember in one of the later seasons, one of Sailor Moon's friends says, "What's up, dawg?" :butbut:
It wasn't terrible, heck I think I'd still enjoy the Witches 5 and the Dark Moon Circus seasons, but I think I'll check out the original version and see how it is first before I rewatch the dub.
The canon stuff is very enjoyable and I like the changes the anime made to the manga but I won't call it a perfect show. Every one of the dubs were pretty bad, there is a ton of filler, and some of the arcs just don't really lead up to anything.
But I can't say it has no merit. Tons of shows still rip it off, for instance, because it does have a lot of good idea to it.
Took a quick glance through TVTropes, and wow some of them hating on Doug big time over this!
I'm watching it now. How much did Doug watch of this? He doesn't get the point of Sailor V at all.
This is the first NC episode I've found funny in a long ass time.
I laughed to tears at that fucking "talking penis" part. Way funnier than it should have been. The voice, man, the voice!
Quote from: Avaitor on August 06, 2013, 11:31:54 PM
I'm watching it now. How much did Doug watch of this? He doesn't get the point of Sailor V at all.
That's because he only reviewed the dub. The dub never explained the deal with Sailor Venus being Sailor V. The only time it was referenced was when they did a clip show, which I am more than postive was only done by DiC.
Quote from: Peanutbutter on August 07, 2013, 07:55:07 AM
Quote from: Avaitor on August 06, 2013, 11:31:54 PM
I'm watching it now. How much did Doug watch of this? He doesn't get the point of Sailor V at all.
That's because he only reviewed the dub. The dub never explained the deal with Sailor Venus being Sailor V. The only time it was referenced was when they did a clip show, which I am more than postive was only done by DiC.
You sure? I swear I remember that after a little while, they did reveal that Sailor Venus was V.
It was an alright review, better than I thought it would be. I never could get into the show because of the overt formulaic elements, and Doug did a good job highlighting them and justifying why it became popular. I was annoyed by his generalization of anime and the obvious fact that he didn't watch even all of the first season of the show, since Serena finds out Darien is Tuxedo Mask towards the end of the first arc, and of course the fact Sailor V is revealed to be Sailor Venus by the middle of the first arc, and the fact that Sailor Moon and company develop as characters as the series went on. Of course, I'm speaking from the experience of reading the manga and having only watched a couple of the anime's episodes here and there, whereas Doug probably didn't even get half-way into the first season of the series, so that's where the difference in perspective lies.
I found the review funny.
Though I loved the bit where he talked more about how and why Sailor Moon ended up on his hottest women list and him explaining the age of consent laws in Japan, with the clips of Homer in them. That and obviously the talking penis.
Quote from: Avaitor on August 07, 2013, 11:19:21 AM
Quote from: Peanutbutter on August 07, 2013, 07:55:07 AM
Quote from: Avaitor on August 06, 2013, 11:31:54 PM
I'm watching it now. How much did Doug watch of this? He doesn't get the point of Sailor V at all.
That's because he only reviewed the dub. The dub never explained the deal with Sailor Venus being Sailor V. The only time it was referenced was when they did a clip show, which I am more than postive was only done by DiC.
You sure? I swear I remember that after a little while, they did reveal that Sailor Venus was V.
Maybe in the later Toonami-exclusive seasons, but not in the DiC dub.
What do you guys think of this rant of Doug's? (https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=549943975072068&id=127127037353766)
I largely agree with him.
I agree with him, for the most part. I'm also sick of this whole sexism issue in video games, ESPECIALLY when people making these arguments bash a lot of the old-school classics. Look, I get that those games weren't the most inspiring things for females, but trying to label those games as misogynistic is both taking them WAY too seriously and looking way more into them than anything that the developers intended. The whole "hero saves a princess" story was one of the most basic stories that any of us knew of as kids. Naturally, at a time when games were more about gameplay than story, most of these older games just had that basic plot because they knew that their main demographic was young boys who just wanted to have some fun. Looking at it as a message that women are weak or whatnot is really pulling at straws, IMO (and as far as Peach from the Mario games goes, don't forget that she was even a playable character in Super Mario Bros. 2). At any rate, I can get bashing games like Metroid: Other M, and certain other story-heavy games as being sexist towards women. What I don't like is when these people start attacking games that clearly had no intentions of telling an insightful story or message, and instead were just geared towards being simple fun.
That said, I was ready to shoot Princess Peach until she was confirmed playable in the upcoming game.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on August 12, 2013, 06:19:47 PM
I agree with him, for the most part. I'm also sick of this whole sexism issue in video games, ESPECIALLY when people making these arguments bash a lot of the old-school classics. Look, I get that those games weren't the most inspiring things for females, but trying to label those games as misogynistic is both taking them WAY too seriously and looking way more into them than anything that the developers intended. The whole "hero saves a princess" story was one of the most basic stories that any of us knew of as kids. Naturally, at a time when games were more about gameplay than story, most of these older games just had that basic plot because they knew that their main demographic was young boys who just wanted to have some fun. Looking at it as a message that women are weak or whatnot is really pulling at straws, IMO (and as far as Peach from the Mario games goes, don't forget that she was even a playable character in Super Mario Bros. 2). At any rate, I can get bashing games like Metroid: Other M, and certain other story-heavy games as being sexist towards women. What I don't like is when these people start attacking games that clearly had no intentions of telling an insightful story or message, and instead were just geared towards being simple fun.
What's worse is that these people will try to come up with asinine reasons to justify why they take these games as seriously as they do, and it just makes them come off as pathetic and unpleasable. Now, I wouldn't mind if more games with these damsel stories had female protagonists, but like you said, these people take the issue
way too seriously.
So I've happily noticed that, in his recent episodes, the Nostalgia Critic hasn't used as many of his old running jokes much. I mean, a few might be funny. But seriously, some of those were just so dead, so overused, that it was painful listening to them. I mean, before he dropped it, Doug had to have been the only person left on this planet that still makes Chuck Norris jokes. Not kidding, that joke seriously seems like it has been around for ten years (at the very least, I can vividly recall moments 7-8 years ago hearing friends make those jokes), and really, I never even thought it was ever that funny. Glad to see he (hopefully) dropped it like everyone else did.
As long as he never does his awful little kid voice again, it's all good.
Anyway, new editorial. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/40262-nostalgia-critic-why-is-tom-and-jerry-genius)
Best editorial yet! Doug nailed exactly what makes Tom and Jerry so great and timeless, the best explanation I've seen anyone give, in fact. :)
I'm so glad his editorials are popular enough that he's kept them going. I really wish Doug could have made the Critic's reviews bi-weekly last year, so we could have already had even more of these. I almost got into it with someone on another board I go to. There are a couple people there who just bash his editorials every time, one of them made a remark about he was over-analyzing. Are you kidding me? It's an editorial, that the whole point of it!
Not everyone has to like them, but calling an editorial over-analyzing is nonsense no matter how you slice it.
The Tom and Jerry editorial was good. For the most part, he's spot on.
I wish he briefly covered the Gene Deitch shorts, though. He gave a brief comment on the Chuck Jones version.
Quote from: Foggle on August 06, 2013, 11:37:28 PMThis is the first NC episode I've found funny in a long ass time.
2 words:
Jurassic Park.
;D
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on August 06, 2013, 08:03:46 PMI can't really say anything about the Japanese version of the show as I never watched more than a few episodes of it, so I can't really judge it.
I've seen about 15 of the Japanese versions, and not just of the episodes that never aired in the U.S. (One was cut because Melvin pushed up Miss Haruna's skirt - their homeroom teacher - and... her reaction was sadder than watching him do it.) It's remarkable what little difference there is between the translations. The biggest difference I noted was a lot of "How annoying!", 2-word sentences, in the Japanese version and, the U.S. version made everything Ami and Mina talked about casually involving Serena off doing something else. Unless you saw a one-off character in a scene with them, they were talking about Serena whenever they were onscreen and she wasn't.
I mean, I could say Doug failed to note Zoecite was a male and had a lover-relationship with Malachite but the scenes with them onscreen were never very meaty to begin with.
Quote from: Avaitor on August 06, 2013, 11:31:54 PMI'm watching it now. How much did Doug watch of this? He doesn't get the point of Sailor V at all.
He seems to have stopped somewhere around episode 9, of the U.S. version (which is something like episode 12 of the Japanese). So, he only noticed Ami and Raye join the Scouts'.
Except that someone clearly told him about the lesbian characters in the later seasons, so...
Quote from: No-Personality on August 16, 2013, 06:48:26 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on August 06, 2013, 11:31:54 PMI'm watching it now. How much did Doug watch of this? He doesn't get the point of Sailor V at all.
He seems to have stopped somewhere around episode 9, of the U.S. version (which is something like episode 12 of the Japanese). So, he only noticed Ami and Raye join the Scouts'.
Except that someone clearly told him about the lesbian characters in the later seasons, so...
Well, aren't they basically common knowledge among nerd culture at this point?
I seem to remember Sailor Moon being in his List of the Top 11 Nostalgia Critic Episodes He Will Never Do video...
New One-Hit Wonderland. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/one-hit-wonderland-to-be-with-you-by-mr-big-6631546)
I know this act, too!
Quote from: Avaitor on August 20, 2013, 01:25:45 PM
New One-Hit Wonderland. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/one-hit-wonderland-to-be-with-you-by-mr-big-6631546)
I know this act, too!
Wait, do you mean you actually know someone from Mr. Big? Or just that you actually know the song?
Quote from: Peanutbutter on August 20, 2013, 08:13:31 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on August 20, 2013, 01:25:45 PM
New One-Hit Wonderland. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/one-hit-wonderland-to-be-with-you-by-mr-big-6631546)
I know this act, too!
Wait, do you mean you actually know someone from Mr. Big? Or just that you actually know the song?
Nah, I'm just quite familiar with Mr. Big. I agree with Todd's sentiments, too. They're GREAT musicians, but song writing wasn't their strong suit. The lead-singer also
I'd put them below Extreme, Skid Row and Motley Crue, but they're still up there in the hair metal canon. I also wish that Todd took a chance to talk about Richie Kotzen's era of the band, since he's great, but that was well past their 15 minutes in the US, so I understand why he just skimmed over their post-"To Be With You" history.
Here's the Les Miserables review.
http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/40344-nostalgia-critic-les-miserables-musical-review
I'm sorry, but I hated that.
This was basically Doug just trying to make lightning strike twice ala his Moulin Rouge! review, which wasn't as good as he thought it was was to begin with.
Haven't seen that review yet but isn't Doug a huge fan of Les Mis?
Quote from: talonmalon333 on August 21, 2013, 01:32:43 PM
Haven't seen that review yet but isn't Doug a huge fan of Les Mis?
Yeah, the three main reviewers of the video are fans of the musical- he, Oancitizen and Paw. But each of them have contrasting opinions towards the movie, which is where the conflict and analysis would go. If there was more of that and less of Paw and Ellie singing love songs to each other.
Quote from: Avaitor on August 21, 2013, 01:36:07 PM
Quote from: talonmalon333 on August 21, 2013, 01:32:43 PM
Haven't seen that review yet but isn't Doug a huge fan of Les Mis?
Yeah, the three main reviewers of the video are fans of the musical- he, Oancitizen and Paw. But each of them have contrasting opinions towards the movie, which is where the conflict and analysis would go. If there was more of that and less of Paw and Ellie singing love songs to each other.
Ah, it's the movie version he's reviewing?
Is it another really long review? :wth:
Quote from: Avaitor on August 21, 2013, 01:22:19 PM
I'm sorry, but I hated that.
This was basically Doug just trying to make lightning strike twice ala his Moulin Rouge! review, which wasn't as good as he thought it was was to begin with.
Yeah, that's just about how I felt. I wasn't a fan of his Moulin Rouge review, either. As far as his "musical" reviews go, I actually did enjoy his Grinch review, because it was just focused on being amusing and the subject matter was easy to tear apart. I'll give Doug props for how ambitious he got with this episode (just like with his Moulin Rouge review), but I somehow get the feeling that his review is more boring than the movie he's criticizing (even though I haven't seen this particular movie iteration), which is always a bad sign. I also think the over-use of other Internet celebrities really overloaded this video and ruined it's pacing, and was honestly pretty unnecessary since most of these people didn't add anything to the review itself (once again, this was the exact same problem that I had with the Moulin Rouge review, except it was made even worse here).
Oh well, here's to hoping that his review of The Last Airbender goes well, given how much hype has inevitably gone into that one.
I don't know what the two of you are talking about. I thought this was very good, and I myself didn't like the Moulin Rouge review. Most of the jokes and gags in this were funny. Also, even their parody songs had something to do with reviewing the flick.
Paw explained things about the musical side, Kyle was there to explain the acting techniques and cinematography. Brentalfloss was pretty much just a running gag, but I thought the part where they hid from him in the closet was hilarious. Paw's acting was a little spotty in the skits, but he was fine otherwise. Kyle I thought did very well and is actually one of the few people to have natural chemistry with the Critic out of the Channel Awesome crew.
LINDSAY'S BACK!!!! (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/team-nchick/nostalgia-chick/40352-nostalgia-chick-addams-family)
Quote from: Avaitor on August 21, 2013, 01:22:19 PMDoug just trying to make lightning strike twice ala his Moulin Rouge! review, which wasn't as good as he thought it was was to begin with.
You are very much INcorrect, sir (along with Ensatsu-ken). It may very well be the best video anyone on the site has produced to-date. As a Doug video. I'm tempted to call it one of Doug's Movies just so I can herald it as superior to
Suburban Knights. Of course, it's mostly driven by Brental Floss and - somewhat amusingly - I really don't like his solo videos. But he proves here that he has as much talent as anyone on the site, he just needed the right venue.
Quote from: Avaitor on August 22, 2013, 02:03:50 PMLINDSAY'S BACK!!!! (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/team-nchick/nostalgia-chick/40352-nostalgia-chick-addams-family)
While this is easily an improvement over her
Sister Act video (one of her weakest, easily), I have mixed feelings all over the place here. The review being split between the television show and film leads her to take a very "meh" opinion about the movie and I really don't think that is the type of movie
to be "meh" about. She doesn't process nor review subtle humor in films very well (this was problematic of her
Earth Girls Are Easy review as well- she reviewed the movie like it were straight when the humor couldn't have been more bent, she apparently took no notice of it). Before even establishing an actual opinion on the movie, she nitpicks pieces of it in a fashion that is questionable at best. I mean, this is a non-linear review. So, she's taking pieces out of it without giving them context. Not to mention she failed to make her criticism of the ending (which I don't necessarily disagree with) relevant to any of her previous points. Plus I'm not sure I love her groundwork- she started with "the 90's versus today"... and she forgot about that pretty fast, the rest of the video was about what made the TV show progressive and then how pieces of the movie don't work. What that has to do with
The Smurfs 2, I'll never know.
That said, she's rebound from lesser videos (
The Lorax after
Sister Act). And, meanwhile, I'm still excited for her to discuss the sequel. Also... she didn't mention the
Brady Bunch Movie in her list of Classic TV adaptations of the 90's... I'm desperately hoping that means: either they'll get a review or they'll be part of the discussion for
Addams Family Values.
Quote from: No-Personality on August 31, 2013, 07:59:12 AMYou are very much INcorrect, sir (along with Ensatsu-ken).
There's no such thing as an incorrect opinion. Personally, I didn't think the songs were either particularly clever or funny (whatever they were going for with them), and it's never a good sign for me when I'd rather be watching the movie that's being reviewed rather than the review itself, being that this is still mostly a large criticism of the film (which, to be clear, is a film that I have not seen yet).
The review is on the Les Mis movie, right? I still think that movie was very good.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on August 31, 2013, 03:55:30 PMQuote from: No-Personality on August 31, 2013, 07:59:12 AMYou are very much INcorrect, sir (along with Ensatsu-ken).
There's no such thing as an incorrect opinion.
In my opinion, there is.
Viva la Exception-to-the-Rule!Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on August 31, 2013, 03:55:30 PMPersonally, I didn't think the songs were either particularly clever or funny (whatever they were going for with them), and it's never a good sign for me when I'd rather be watching the movie that's being reviewed rather than the review itself, being that this is still mostly a large criticism of the film (which, to be clear, is a film that I have not seen yet).
Well, I disagree.
Look, if we judged every song one by one, there would be different standards for each number. There's no way to get them all perfect, and there is a different Better Judge for every style, subject matter, etc. But I do believe Doug's movies have proved beyond conclusively that TGWTG is a place where people try and try and don't always get what they're doing perfect. Nor is it important for every person watching their videos to come to a video with a bag of research.
But if you're speaking loosely, what they were doing was very clever and I guess I can't trust your perspective on this. I don't know how you're judging, what your criteria for cleverness is, how much you actually expected and how well you know the styles, what you apparently know about Doug and Brental Floss as writers and performers that I don't, what research you assume they did, etc. Many etc's.
But as simple entertainment, which is pretty much how I judge the videos by everyone who isn't trying to make an academic argument... this video was outstanding and so were the songs. All of them.
If you want to disagree further, I would appreciate some further input.
Look, I'm not getting into an elaborate argument with you over this. If you liked it, then great. If you want my criteria for judging the songs in this video, it's really very simple; if Doug and company were trying to be funny here, then I suppose I just "didn't get the joke," so to speak; if they were trying to be serious, then their songs just didn't appeal to me at all (musicals aren't really my thing, as it is).
I suppose we just don't see eye-to-eye when it comes to what we like in Internet review videos. I don't really have a problem with that, myself, because my opinions are just my own, and I don't expect everyone to share them. Could I elaborate in finer detail as to why I hold those opinions? Probably, yeah. Do I want to spend a lot of time analyzing every problem I have with this video and constructing a counter-argument that'll be refuted, anyways? Not particularly.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on August 31, 2013, 10:30:22 PMI suppose I just "didn't get the joke," so to speak
Did you see the movie they were reviewing?
I already stated that I didn't, but I am familiar with other iterations of Les Mis?rables. That said, there have been plenty of Nostalgia Critic episodes in which he reviews a movie (or even TV show) that I have not seen before I and I still really get the humor, so whether I've seen the film in question or not should not mean that I'm not supposed to enjoy the review if I haven't.
I believe you have to see the movie to appreciate the review. And I don't believe they expected people who hadn't seen the movie to be impressed with the video.
I'll say "fair enough" to the point about seeing the movie first to appreciate the review. I'll check out the film sometime later, and perhaps come back to the review to see if anything changes. That said, I don't believe they expected everyone watching the review to have seen the film. I back this statement up with how they went into a fair about of detail in terms of background information regarding Les Mis, which I don't think would have been necessary at all if they had really thought that all of their viewers would have already seen the film.
One watch of Lindsay's video on Les Mis kind of explains why they have to do background info on that versus Moulin Rouge, which you don't have to know anything about before seeing. And isn't half as long as the LM musical.
Quote from: No-Personality on August 31, 2013, 11:08:49 PM
I believe you have to see the movie to appreciate the review. And I don't believe they expected people who hadn't seen the movie to be impressed with the video.
That's not the way to get the most amount of interest for a review.
IT'S HERE! (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nc-the-last-airbender-6637022) ;D
I haven't watched it yet, but we'll soon see if this review lives up to the hype or not.
I didn't like the parts with Shymalan as Amon, but other than that this was a great review. The part where he tried to pick the best joke for Princess Yue's hair slayed me. :D He also did a wonderful job laying out and deconstructing why the movie got everything it did wrong.
It's really sad how M. Night went from doing Sixth Sense and Unbreakable to garbage like this and The Happening. My only guess as to what the deal is with him is that he got way too full of himself from all the critical acclaim and the spotlight he got from Sixth Sense.
Yeah....I already linked to that in the post right before yours. :>
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on September 03, 2013, 04:40:14 PM
Yeah....I already linked to that in the post right before yours. :>
Pfft. Don't know what you're talking about. :thinkin:
Quote from: Peanutbutter on September 03, 2013, 03:16:32 PMIt's really sad how M. Night went from doing Sixth Sense and Unbreakable to garbage like this and The Happening. My only guess as to what the deal is with him is that he got way too full of himself from all the critical acclaim and the spotlight he got from Sixth Sense.
After Signs he got so full of himself that he left Disney and went to a company that gave him full reign which explains a lot. There's a story out there about how he crashed an exec's birthday party for his daughter to force him to read a revision of the script one of his later films that really paints him as an egomaniac. It's pretty evident when you watch the first three movies then watch anything he has made since. They're all overly-indulgent, self-important and poorly edited without any sort of restraint.
The man needs limitations and someone telling him what he can't and can't do. As a filmmaker, he really doesn't have that ability.
Yeah, Avatar's not one of the best series of all time. Man, I'm gonna sing that song until the day I day.
Watching the review now though.
I don't particularly like the show, but I feel correct in assuming the movie is an insult to it.
Quote from: Avaitor on September 03, 2013, 05:04:38 PM
Yeah, Avatar's not one of the best series of all time. Man, I'm gonna sing that song until the day I day.
Watching the review now though.
Calling it THE best would be wrong, but I don't see how just because
you don't see why the series is great makes it undeserving of being placed in as one of the best of all time.
Here is the quote:
QuoteMr. Shyamalan has had his own peculiar stardom. "The Sixth Sense," a deservedly huge hit, was followed by three features of decreasing quality and increasing turgidity that nevertheless earned him more celebrity by earning huge piles of money. All four films were made for Disney, so the filmmaker was stunned when Disney's Nina Jacobson and Dick Cook expressed deep reservations about his script for "Lady in the Water." And before that, according to the book, he was flummoxed by Ms. Jacobson's decision to take her son to a birthday party rather than stay home to take delivery of the script at the precise hour that Night had planned. (In fairness, the book has him eventually coming to respect Disney's candor, and to believe that their doubts strengthened his resolve.)
GIVEN THE WAY the film turned out, the book proves to be -- again, unwittingly -- a tribute to Disney's wisdom. It's more than that, though. Writers prowling around movie sets constitute an occupational hazard of the filmmaking process, and this writer, in his hapless way, has given new meaning to the notion of the tell-all book.
There are a few articles here that talk you back to his fall. (http://mnightshyamalan.wikispaces.com/The+fall+of+M.+Night+Shyamalan)
This one is from 2006 before 'Lady In The Water' proved Disney wasn't the one holding him back and that 'The Village' really
was a letdown and a slip in quality. Since it isn't formatted well, I'll try to do that here.
QuoteThe Fall Of M. Night Shyamalan
M. Night Shyamalan settles into a chair in his dining room, examining the movie posters from a career defined by hits -- The Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, Signs, The Village -- and wonders whether he has lost his touch.
"Maybe I've had a disconnect with people," he says. "Maybe the wine and food I like isn't the wine and food everyone else likes now."
It's a remarkable admission for a man whose four big-studio pictures have taken in more than $2 billion in theaters and home video sales. But it has been a remarkable 18 months for Shyamalan, 35. In just a year and a half, he has parted ways with Disney, the studio that distributed all of his big movies. He has cooperated with a new tell-all book, The Man Who Heard Voices: Or, How M. Night Shyamalan Risked His Career on a Fairy Tale, that details the split and vilifies Disney executives.
But most disconcerting is a question that has been nagging at him for months: Has he made a movie no one wants to see?
Lady in the Water opens Friday with a lot of reputations at stake. Disney executives will be watching the film's performance to validate their decision to end the relationship with Shyamalan. Warner Bros. will be watching the same numbers to justify their decision to snap up the director and give him $70 million to make this film and, they hope, more under the Warner Bros. banner.
No one's credibility, though, is more on the line than Shyamalan's. Already some media outlets are blasting the director, whom they say has fallen prey to hubris.The New York Times called Voices "a full-length, unintentionally riotous puff book." Newsweek, which once put Shyamalan on its cover under the title "The Next Spielberg," is now calling for a "career intervention" to address his arrogance.
Lately, Shyamalan concedes, he has caught himself agreeing with the criticisms. "In your darker moments, you worry that your tastes have rarefied," he says. "It's very possible that's what's happening. And in the event that Lady doesn't find its audience, that's going to be looming over me." Yet for all the questions and self-doubt, Shyamalan says he has found an inner peace he rarely has known as a director. "I've never gotten to this place this close to the opening where I felt as little anxiety as I feel right now," he says. "Even if it's a financial disaster, I know it's going to work out, because I got to make the movie I was dreaming to make."
Divorced from Disney
It was a movie he planned to make with Disney, which shepherded his last four films to a box office haul of $1.6 billion domestically and worldwide.
But tensions began to mount after 2004's The Village, about a blind girl who must enter woods she believes are haunted to save her fiance. Although it took in $114 million domestically and $142 million overseas, the movie underperformed for a Shyamalan picture and was raked by critics.
The director knew Lady would be a hard sell. Born of a bedtime story he told his daughters, his newest film is a fantasy that stars Paul Giamatti as an apartment building superintendent who rescues a sea nymph, played by Bryce Dallas Howard, whom he finds in his swimming pool. The movie proved the toughest since Sixth Sense to write. Shyamalan reworked the script six times. "It's a modern-day fantasy," Shyamalan says from his office on a 40-acre horse farm that doubles as a family getaway. Lady "has a female lead with no superstars in it," he says. "It isn't a traditional scary movie for me to sell. It doesn't have a twist ending. I expected it would send a lot of mixed signals to people who perceive me as a certain type of director."
What he didn't expect was the reaction he got from Disney executives.
When Shyamalan finishes an early cut of a movie, he screens it for two dozen of his closest friends. All must fill out a report card about what works and what doesn't.Though he won't say what Lady scored, he says, "It did well. Better than I thought it would."
At a dinner at a Philadelphia hotel in February last year, however, it became clear that the movie had not scored well with Disney. Shyamalan met with Disney chairman Dick Cook, marketing chief Oren Aviv and Disney president Nina Jacobson. Shyamalan says that when Jacobson rattled off a list of concerns she had about the movie, including his decision to give himself a meaty role and a scene in which a movie critic is mauled, he lost his composure. He left the restaurant vowing that he was through with Disney, even though Cook offered to produce the film with a $60 million budget and the freedom to make Lady any way he wanted.
Though Disney executives confirmed details of the dinner and offer, officials declined to elaborate on the split. "We enjoyed a fruitful relationship with Night Shyamalan that lasted six years and yielded four wonderful movies," a press release from Disney says. "We wish him the best of luck with Lady in the Water and on all of his future endeavors." Such divorces are rare in Hollywood because the marriages are even rarer. Most directors shop their scripts to the studio that bids highest.
Shyamalan says money had nothing to do with the split. Instead, he says, he felt Disney had lost faith in him."They didn't like the movie. They weren't saying 'Let's work it out.' They weren't saying 'Tell me how you're going to fix it.' It wasn't like that," he says. "Warner Bros. loves the movie. That's important to me. Until they loved it, I wasn't happy."
Shyamalan has spent much of his life seeking approval. When he was admitted to New York University's film school, his father, he says, told him "It's not Princeton." When Newsweek put him on its cover, he says his father reminded him the magazine had a smaller circulation than Time. Disney, Shyamalan says, "was very much a parent to me, one that I wanted to please. I thought I would make movies for Disney until I was an old man. But at some point, the child has to decide to go on his own."
Faith in his movies
Will audiences follow?
Gitesh Pandya of boxofficeguru.com says that Lady could be a hard sell "because it seems to fall somewhere in between a fairy tale and a horror movie. It's not well defined, at least in the ads." He's quick to add, though, that "Shyamalan is still a director who attracts an audience by his name alone. There aren't many of those around."
There also aren't many filmmakers "who evoke such strong feelings, on both sides of the fence," says Howard, who also starred in The Village. "His movies polarize people because they're so emotional," she says. "And he's uncompromising about the story he wants to tell. I think the feelings run the gamut from obsession to hatred for him. "But whatever you're feeling, it's un-ignorable."
There was no ignoring his bolt from Disney, says Michael Bamberger, author of Voices. "You can say that he's a crybaby for walking away from Disney's offer," says Bamberger, a senior writer for Sports Illustrated. "And he does have an ego. He is obsessive. But he's not cynical. He believes in the movies. And he really was hurt that they didn't believe in a movie that's about faith."
Now Shyamalan must face whether moviegoers still believe in him. He admits that the question has been pressing of late. "I don't know that I could be an independent filmmaker," he says. "I think there's something universal in the stories I try to tell. But trying to do that, you can torture yourself. The 'I (stink)' is a pretty powerful tool when I'm doing a movie."
In fact, Shyamalan has enjoyed making only one, Signs, a movie he says was made "for the Denny's crowd. I think that was fun because it was a popcorn movie. I was going for the masses." His personal favorite, however, is Unbreakable, a movie he made his way, with the clout he earned from Sixth Sense's $672 million worldwide box office haul. Unbreakable did $95 million at the U.S. box office despite shots from critics that it was too dense and dark.
If Shyamalan prefers underdog movies, Lady may soon become his favorite. He concedes that the battle with Disney to make the film might have overshadowed his reason for making it. "If this doesn't do well, maybe I'll realize that I was so worried about getting it made that I didn't realize I had something that doesn't reach audiences," he says.
There may even be something cathartic about the movie failing, he says. "Maybe what would really help is a complete disaster. Something that would clean the slate. People could trash me to oblivion, say I'm done. Then there are no great expectations. There's nowhere to go but up." But this is one film for which he'll try to tune out the skeptics, the studio execs, the box office analysts.
"People may turn this into my disaster," he says. "But it won't be for me. This is the movie my kids wanted to see get made. It's the movie I wanted to make. No matter what happens, I love this movie."
--- Night's numbers M. Night Shyamalan's The Lady in the Water, based on a children's story he wrote, is a departure for the writer/director of movies that have surprise endings.
Daymnnnn
It's a good review, but wow Doug was pitchy at points. I definitely understand his anger though.
Ah yes, the infamous scene where it takes six guys to lift a fucking rock and throw it. Just... just beautiful.
It's been a while since I've seen Unbreakable, but I remember liking that film well enough when it came out. As for The Sixth Sense and Signs, I think that the former is easily his best film, and the latter has problems, but I have a soft spot for that one and think it's still a decent watch if you can look past it's problems (I think Doug is a bit too harsh on it, personally). That said, yeah, everything that he has done since then is garbage. I could forgive The Village because that was his first bad movie and it was the first time he got full reign over a film to do what he wanted. The film was terrible, so he should have learned his lesson there. After that, though, he kept getting even worse with each new release and somehow I get the notion that he is one of those people who has way too much of an ego to admit that he's honestly not that great of a director, and thus won't except anyone's feedback. I mean, when he doesn't have complete control over a movie and there are people to fix the stupidities in his writing and directing, he can turn out what I would call a solid flick (I certainly wouldn't call any of his movies great, even the good ones). But if you just let the guy do whatever he wants, it's pretty much the right set-up for a complete embarrassment of a film.
Also, in regard to the NC's review of TLA, I thought that representing Shyamalan as Amon was fucking ingenious, as was the idea of "talent" bending, in reference to how he takes away the acting abilities of actual good actors (which is so damn true). I'm also glad that the Nostalgia Critic pointed out how strange it was for Shyamalan to cast Katara and Sokka as white people, and all of the Fire Nation as Indian people (a friend of mine pointed that out to me as well, before I had seen the film). It's not racist at all to make note of that. It's just really bizarre as an adaptation for Shyamalan to go that route.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 01, 2013, 07:01:19 PMQuote from: No-Personality on August 31, 2013, 11:08:49 PMI believe you have to see the movie to appreciate the review. And I don't believe they expected people who hadn't seen the movie to be impressed with the video.
That's not the way to get the most amount of interest for a review.
This one was an exception to the rule.
Anyway, I watched NC's Les Mis review and I agree it stank. Too many old ideas that have been done to death and...they need new ideas. Has Paw ever been the FilmBrain of a crossover before? For the first 15 minutes, he kept getting the na?ve-guy-asks-stupid-questions clich?...okay, I don't need to say anymore but I keep waiting for Doug to mature as a writer. Even though I still laughed at his
Jurassic Park review.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 03, 2013, 05:24:32 PM
Here is the quote:
QuoteMr. Shyamalan has had his own peculiar stardom. "The Sixth Sense," a deservedly huge hit, was followed by three features of decreasing quality and increasing turgidity that nevertheless earned him more celebrity by earning huge piles of money. All four films were made for Disney, so the filmmaker was stunned when Disney's Nina Jacobson and Dick Cook expressed deep reservations about his script for "Lady in the Water." And before that, according to the book, he was flummoxed by Ms. Jacobson's decision to take her son to a birthday party rather than stay home to take delivery of the script at the precise hour that Night had planned. (In fairness, the book has him eventually coming to respect Disney's candor, and to believe that their doubts strengthened his resolve.)
GIVEN THE WAY the film turned out, the book proves to be -- again, unwittingly -- a tribute to Disney's wisdom. It's more than that, though. Writers prowling around movie sets constitute an occupational hazard of the filmmaking process, and this writer, in his hapless way, has given new meaning to the notion of the tell-all book.
There are a few articles here that talk you back to his fall. (http://mnightshyamalan.wikispaces.com/The+fall+of+M.+Night+Shyamalan)
This one is from 2006 before 'Lady In The Water' proved Disney wasn't the one holding him back and that 'The Village' really was a letdown and a slip in quality. Since it isn't formatted well, I'll try to do that here.
QuoteThe Fall Of M. Night Shyamalan
M. Night Shyamalan settles into a chair in his dining room, examining the movie posters from a career defined by hits -- The Sixth Sense, Unbreakable, Signs, The Village -- and wonders whether he has lost his touch.
"Maybe I've had a disconnect with people," he says. "Maybe the wine and food I like isn't the wine and food everyone else likes now."
It's a remarkable admission for a man whose four big-studio pictures have taken in more than $2 billion in theaters and home video sales. But it has been a remarkable 18 months for Shyamalan, 35. In just a year and a half, he has parted ways with Disney, the studio that distributed all of his big movies. He has cooperated with a new tell-all book, The Man Who Heard Voices: Or, How M. Night Shyamalan Risked His Career on a Fairy Tale, that details the split and vilifies Disney executives.
But most disconcerting is a question that has been nagging at him for months: Has he made a movie no one wants to see?
Lady in the Water opens Friday with a lot of reputations at stake. Disney executives will be watching the film's performance to validate their decision to end the relationship with Shyamalan. Warner Bros. will be watching the same numbers to justify their decision to snap up the director and give him $70 million to make this film and, they hope, more under the Warner Bros. banner.
No one's credibility, though, is more on the line than Shyamalan's. Already some media outlets are blasting the director, whom they say has fallen prey to hubris.The New York Times called Voices "a full-length, unintentionally riotous puff book." Newsweek, which once put Shyamalan on its cover under the title "The Next Spielberg," is now calling for a "career intervention" to address his arrogance.
Lately, Shyamalan concedes, he has caught himself agreeing with the criticisms. "In your darker moments, you worry that your tastes have rarefied," he says. "It's very possible that's what's happening. And in the event that Lady doesn't find its audience, that's going to be looming over me." Yet for all the questions and self-doubt, Shyamalan says he has found an inner peace he rarely has known as a director. "I've never gotten to this place this close to the opening where I felt as little anxiety as I feel right now," he says. "Even if it's a financial disaster, I know it's going to work out, because I got to make the movie I was dreaming to make."
Divorced from Disney
It was a movie he planned to make with Disney, which shepherded his last four films to a box office haul of $1.6 billion domestically and worldwide.
But tensions began to mount after 2004's The Village, about a blind girl who must enter woods she believes are haunted to save her fiance. Although it took in $114 million domestically and $142 million overseas, the movie underperformed for a Shyamalan picture and was raked by critics.
The director knew Lady would be a hard sell. Born of a bedtime story he told his daughters, his newest film is a fantasy that stars Paul Giamatti as an apartment building superintendent who rescues a sea nymph, played by Bryce Dallas Howard, whom he finds in his swimming pool. The movie proved the toughest since Sixth Sense to write. Shyamalan reworked the script six times. "It's a modern-day fantasy," Shyamalan says from his office on a 40-acre horse farm that doubles as a family getaway. Lady "has a female lead with no superstars in it," he says. "It isn't a traditional scary movie for me to sell. It doesn't have a twist ending. I expected it would send a lot of mixed signals to people who perceive me as a certain type of director."
What he didn't expect was the reaction he got from Disney executives.
When Shyamalan finishes an early cut of a movie, he screens it for two dozen of his closest friends. All must fill out a report card about what works and what doesn't.Though he won't say what Lady scored, he says, "It did well. Better than I thought it would."
At a dinner at a Philadelphia hotel in February last year, however, it became clear that the movie had not scored well with Disney. Shyamalan met with Disney chairman Dick Cook, marketing chief Oren Aviv and Disney president Nina Jacobson. Shyamalan says that when Jacobson rattled off a list of concerns she had about the movie, including his decision to give himself a meaty role and a scene in which a movie critic is mauled, he lost his composure. He left the restaurant vowing that he was through with Disney, even though Cook offered to produce the film with a $60 million budget and the freedom to make Lady any way he wanted.
Though Disney executives confirmed details of the dinner and offer, officials declined to elaborate on the split. "We enjoyed a fruitful relationship with Night Shyamalan that lasted six years and yielded four wonderful movies," a press release from Disney says. "We wish him the best of luck with Lady in the Water and on all of his future endeavors." Such divorces are rare in Hollywood because the marriages are even rarer. Most directors shop their scripts to the studio that bids highest.
Shyamalan says money had nothing to do with the split. Instead, he says, he felt Disney had lost faith in him."They didn't like the movie. They weren't saying 'Let's work it out.' They weren't saying 'Tell me how you're going to fix it.' It wasn't like that," he says. "Warner Bros. loves the movie. That's important to me. Until they loved it, I wasn't happy."
Shyamalan has spent much of his life seeking approval. When he was admitted to New York University's film school, his father, he says, told him "It's not Princeton." When Newsweek put him on its cover, he says his father reminded him the magazine had a smaller circulation than Time. Disney, Shyamalan says, "was very much a parent to me, one that I wanted to please. I thought I would make movies for Disney until I was an old man. But at some point, the child has to decide to go on his own."
Faith in his movies
Will audiences follow?
Gitesh Pandya of boxofficeguru.com says that Lady could be a hard sell "because it seems to fall somewhere in between a fairy tale and a horror movie. It's not well defined, at least in the ads." He's quick to add, though, that "Shyamalan is still a director who attracts an audience by his name alone. There aren't many of those around."
There also aren't many filmmakers "who evoke such strong feelings, on both sides of the fence," says Howard, who also starred in The Village. "His movies polarize people because they're so emotional," she says. "And he's uncompromising about the story he wants to tell. I think the feelings run the gamut from obsession to hatred for him. "But whatever you're feeling, it's un-ignorable."
There was no ignoring his bolt from Disney, says Michael Bamberger, author of Voices. "You can say that he's a crybaby for walking away from Disney's offer," says Bamberger, a senior writer for Sports Illustrated. "And he does have an ego. He is obsessive. But he's not cynical. He believes in the movies. And he really was hurt that they didn't believe in a movie that's about faith."
Now Shyamalan must face whether moviegoers still believe in him. He admits that the question has been pressing of late. "I don't know that I could be an independent filmmaker," he says. "I think there's something universal in the stories I try to tell. But trying to do that, you can torture yourself. The 'I (stink)' is a pretty powerful tool when I'm doing a movie."
In fact, Shyamalan has enjoyed making only one, Signs, a movie he says was made "for the Denny's crowd. I think that was fun because it was a popcorn movie. I was going for the masses." His personal favorite, however, is Unbreakable, a movie he made his way, with the clout he earned from Sixth Sense's $672 million worldwide box office haul. Unbreakable did $95 million at the U.S. box office despite shots from critics that it was too dense and dark.
If Shyamalan prefers underdog movies, Lady may soon become his favorite. He concedes that the battle with Disney to make the film might have overshadowed his reason for making it. "If this doesn't do well, maybe I'll realize that I was so worried about getting it made that I didn't realize I had something that doesn't reach audiences," he says.
There may even be something cathartic about the movie failing, he says. "Maybe what would really help is a complete disaster. Something that would clean the slate. People could trash me to oblivion, say I'm done. Then there are no great expectations. There's nowhere to go but up." But this is one film for which he'll try to tune out the skeptics, the studio execs, the box office analysts.
"People may turn this into my disaster," he says. "But it won't be for me. This is the movie my kids wanted to see get made. It's the movie I wanted to make. No matter what happens, I love this movie."
--- Night's numbers M. Night Shyamalan's The Lady in the Water, based on a children's story he wrote, is a departure for the writer/director of movies that have surprise endings.
Man, that's one great read you managed to find Desen.
The new NC editorial (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nc-wtf-is-with-the-ending-of-the-graduate-6639915) is up. This week is Doug's analysis of the ending of The Graduate. I pretty much agree with Doug's take on the ending, here. I always saw that bus ride as a harsh realization of the bitter reality of the situation. The reason it wouldn't work for me too well as a happy ending is precisely because I never bought that those 2 characters were ever in love. I mean, why would they be? After only a single date or so, there was really hardly anything between the 2 of them to indicate that they really had time to develop any romantic feelings for one another, so to me it felt more like something that they thought they wanted just because their parents didn't want it.
This review should just be called Bridge to Terabithia cause it makes kids cry! (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nc-bridge-to-terabithia-6643147)
I never saw that movie, but I found this review to be surprisingly entertaining. If nothing else, it proves that you don't need to have seen the film to get the jokes in the review.
I don't usually watch Bennet the Sage (or, ever, really), but apparently he's doing a review of [adult swim] anime all this month, and this week he happened to review both The Big O and Trigun: http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/bt/the-sage/anime-abandon/40668-anime-abandon-the-big-o-and-trigun (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/bt/the-sage/anime-abandon/40668-anime-abandon-the-big-o-and-trigun)
I definitely agreed with everything he said about Trigun, especially about Vash's character and the final fight with Knives (although I might slightly prefer the manga's ending, but just slightly ;) ).
As for The Big O's second season... I dunno why people dislike it so much. I watched it immediately after finishing the first season, and it just seemed like a natural progression of the story, and the characters didn't really change in personality considerably (Roger did still joke around, as far as I recall). The digital coloring was a little jarring at first, but it wasn't that bad. And I LOVE the ending myself; it made sense with all the details they set up beforehand, and was full of moments of awesome, although I will admit that the entire plotline of The Big O is a little convoluted, although I still think it functioned very, very well. Guess I'll just have to disagree with the popular opinion. :P
I'll probably check out his Cowboy Bebop review. Maybe the InuYasha one as well, but honestly...InuYasha is so much better as a manga (overlong as it is) it isn't even funny. As someone who hated the anime as a kid but then read the entire manga last year and loved it, well...let's just say I'll have a shit-load of mixed feelings if I decide to watch his review of it. Heh, as a fan of all things Rumiko Takahashi, I might even explode from conflicted fanboy rage... :humhumhum:
EDIT: Oh, and fuck yeah do I wish Livio/Razlo and Elendira were in the Trigun anime. Seriously, if any of the fights involving Livio were animated, they would be epic in it's purest form. Makes me wish for a new Trigun anime faithfully adapting Maximum...
Just saw the NC's review of The Shining miniseries. Now that made me laugh out loud.
He really glanced over a couple of strengths the film had in the final 3rd. If he chose to spend so much energy and time complaining that nothing happened, why did he ignore the very spooky scene where Wendy saw the wolf mask on the swinging doors to the bar and the fact that the incredibly brutal attack of Jack on Wendy was legitimately intense and well-played? These are among the few things no one can deny Mick Garris has done brilliantly. (Oh yeah, he was the director btw. Not Stephen King.)
Doug's doing vlogs for Adventure Time now.
Man, idk about you, but there's at least a dozen other shows I'd rather see him do this for over AT. Like anything Whedon, Breaking Bad, The Wire, Archer, HIMYM, a bunch of older Cartoon Network originals, SSM, etc
I would actually watch his vlogs if he did The Wire.
Well, Adventure Time is a good cartoon with great character development, and it's still fun to watch so I can understand why he'd want to do vlogs for it. Especially since he's done with Avatar until Korra ends. Heck, it would be great if he does some for Regular Show in the future.
Has Doug ever seen Trigun? I know he doesn't watch much anime, but I figured since he loves Bebop, he shoul at least give that one a try. It'd be convenient to do V-Logs for as well, since it's only 26 episodes long.
Other than that, I'd love to see him do V-Logs for Gargoyles, The Spectacular Spider-Man, or Serenity.
Well, maybe he's already watched Breaking Bad, and I'd be surprised if he has not watched any or all of Whedon's shows. It doesn't make much sense to do The Wire at this point since the show is done and there are no future projects involving it, same with Spectacular Spiderman, and while How I met Your Mother and Archer are popular shows...they don't have the following or "notability" to the same extent Adventure Time does.
While I think it's a little random to do it now, it makes a lot of sense as to why he would do V-Logs of Adventure Time. The show is easily THE most popular cartoon to have been created since Avatar: The Last Airbender, and it's fanbase is the largest of any currently running children's cartoon as well. Plus, the show is pushing some boundaries in it's creative and storytelling stylings. I'm far from being a big fan of the series, but it's already known and is going down as one of the most popular and notable cartoons ever created, it's made a big impact on the animation industry in the short time it's been on air, and it's at the peak of it's popularity right now. It makes sense for Doug to see what the show is all about.
If there was any V-log that I would love to see Doug do, myself, it would be the entire Dragonball franchise, so like with the Avatar: The Last Airbender V-Logs, he could do a review of Dragonball Evolution. Really, though, I would just like to see someone watch the entire trilogy beginning to end and reflect on the progress/changes of the series all the way through it. It's never gonna happen, but it'd be cool if it ever did.
There are a lot of choices, but I guess Adventure Time is more recent and more popular and probably more requested.
Trigun would be nice but JesuOtaku already has her Inbetweens on it and even though it's on the backburner right now, she does the series a lot of justice to a point I doubt Doug would since she did some good digging for it.
Ah man, those Trigun in-betweens...hasn't it been, like, three years since she last did one of those? I wish she would finish them one of these days. I want to hear her thoughts on Livio/Razlo and the differences between both the anime and manga's portrayals of Knives, Legato, Legato's death scene, Wolfwood's death scene, and the final confrontation between Knives and Vash and it's conclusion, even if it is a little biased in the anime's favor.
Quote from: Cartoon X on October 03, 2013, 07:10:58 PM
Ah man, those Trigun in-betweens...hasn't it been, like, three years since she last did one of those? I wish she would finish them one of these days. I want to hear her thoughts on Livio/Razlo and the differences between both the anime and manga's portrayals of Knives, Legato, Legato's death scene, Wolfwood's death scene, and the final confrontation between Knives and Vash and it's conclusion, even if it is a little biased in the anime's favor.
Yeah, she had an update a while ago where she said what each series status was at and that was one she still wanted to do the most but admitted it takes a lot of time to do them. Also apparently not as many people watched them which was disappointing since I think they contain her best work.
I hope she is able to get back to it after the Derbys and Digimon Retrospective (which is an In-betweens in itself) are finished.
Quote from: Cartoon X on October 03, 2013, 07:03:41 PM
Well, maybe he's already watched Breaking Bad, and I'd be surprised if he has not watched any or all of Whedon's shows. It doesn't make much sense to do The Wire at this point since the show is done and there are no future projects involving it, same with Spectacular Spiderman
How do those shows being done mean that Doug can't or shouldn't give his opinions on them? You don't need to review what's hip and current to have a point. Sorry, I just don't see your logic, here.
And keep in mind, it's not like Doug reviewed TLA because Korra Book 2 was coming up. He did it because he was doing a review for the movie, and he was only doing that review because so many fans wanted him to (and also wanted him to watch the show). So it's not like the show needs to still be going in order for Doug to look at it (TLA finished years before he started his V-Logs for it, BTW). If you want to talk about having a point, that's not even the point that he does these V-Logs in the first place. He does them because they get a good response from the fans, and they get a ton of views, which he makes money off of (for videos that are relatively quick and simple to make compared to his NC stuff). So, really, if anything makes sense, it's that he would review stuff that's popular among his fan base. Adventure Time happens to be one of those shows. But if fans highly request him to do an older but still massively popular series, than why shouldn't he?
While I think it's a little random to do it now, it makes a lot of sense as to why he would do V-Logs of
Adventure Time. The show is easily THE most popular cartoon to have been created since
Avatar: The Last Airbender, and it's fanbase is the largest of any currently running children's cartoon as well. Plus, the show is pushing some boundaries in it's creative and storytelling stylings. I'm far from being a big fan of the series, but it's already known and is going down as one of the most popular and notable cartoons ever created, it's made a big impact on the animation industry in the short time it's been on air, and it's at the peak of it's popularity right now. It makes sense for Doug to see what the show is all about.
QuoteIf there was any V-log that I would love to see Doug do, myself, it would be the entire Dragonball franchise
Doug would never do Dragon Ball for 2 reasons:
1. It's WAY too long for him, even if it is popular
2. DBZ. Is a piece of shit, and if he were to try and review it episode-by-episode, he'd have almost nothing to talk about due to the horrid pacing of that show.
Beyond that, even the manga wouldn't work since I just kind of know that it wouldn't be Doug's kind of series, in that I don't think that he personally would be able to find any appeal in it.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 03, 2013, 07:15:00 PM
Yeah, she had an update a while ago where she said what each series status was at and that was one she still wanted to do the most but admitted it takes a lot of time to do them. Also apparently not as many people watched them which was disappointing since I think they contain her best work.
Amen to that! The inbetweens are easily my favorite set of videos from her, and as a fan of both the
Trigun anime and the manga I really enjoyed her comparisons and analysis of each of them. I can't believe they weren't popular....
Well, it's good that she still plans to finish it, even if it'll take a while. Honestly, these Derby videos are cool in concept, but it's taking her so long to get them out. She didn't even finish the Spring season before posting the first Summer Derby video, and with this kinda scheduling, I wish she would do regular anime reviews again (like, say, that
Ranma 1/2 review that was promised back in her
Fullmetal Alchemist review. Yes, JO, I remember! :whip:).
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on October 03, 2013, 07:24:06 PM
How do those shows being done mean that Doug can't or shouldn't give his opinions on them? You don't need to review what's hip and current to have a point. Sorry, I just don't see your logic, here.
What I meant was, unless he had a reason for reviewing it, like fan-request, being a super-popular show that he hasn't seen yet, or for the purposes of a review, it'd be unlikely to see him do it. I don't think he needs to review something just because it's hip and current, and I didn't mean to come across that way.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on October 03, 2013, 07:24:06 PM
Doug would never do Dragon Ball for 2 reasons:
1. It's WAY too long for him, even if it is popular
2. DBZ. Is a piece of shit, and if he were to try and review it episode-by-episode, he'd have almost nothing to talk about due to the horrid pacing of that show.
That's why I said it would never happen, but it'd be something I would like to see if it miraculously did. I can see your point as to Doug maybe not finding much that appeals to him personally in the series (although I must say that I feel this whole DBZ is shit thing is too exaggerated, and I don't care for re-watching the series myself), and to that point, and I would rather see him review something he would either have mixed or positive things to say about when he finished it.
To be fair, Doug's fanbase consists mostly of manchildren who only watch live-action if it's actiony enough, so AT is a good fit.
Not to say that everyone who watches his videos is like that, but a lot of the shows I namedropped probably wouldn't appeal to his viewers as much. Although I still find it crazy that there wasn't a single reference or shot of Buffy in his What's with the Princess Hate? video, which focused a lot on ass-kicking women. That's what makes me think that he isn't versed enough in Whedonland ,and makes me curious about what his thoughts on the show or Firefly would be.
But yeah, it's also worth noting that Doug is VERY passionate about kids entertainment, so I understand his approach and interest in AT.
Okay, I'm kinda happy he's doing Adventure Time V-Logs right now. His bewilderment and confusion is just hilarious: http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/40819-adventure-time-vlogs-slumber-party-panic (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/40819-adventure-time-vlogs-slumber-party-panic)
Holy crap, that was hysterical! ;D That may have been his funniest video all year, as himself or the Critic. And I say that as someone who's adored most of his stuff since bringing the Critic back. Good grief, I can't count how many times I cackled. Yeah, it's going to be ton of fun watching him attempt to review Adventure Time. I cannot wait to see what he says about Tree Trunks, forget any other episode.
The second one's up. He doesn't seem to like it. Dude needs to quit trying to make sense of things and just go with the flow.
Quote from: Nel_Annette on October 05, 2013, 10:36:38 PM
The second one's up. He doesn't seem to like it. Dude needs to quit trying to make sense of things and just go with the flow.
??? He said straight out he does
like it, and finds it funny, but he doesn't know how to describe it, or figure out what to say about it's good or bad qualities, and that's putting him in an uncomfortable spot as a reviewer. He wants to figure out what makes the show work and what makes it popular, and he's having trouble with that because it's a spontaneous, unpredictable, and off-the-wall show he's not used to seeing.
Doug's a better man than I. I sat through a whole season or so of Adventure Time before I finally threw my hands up and gave up on it. The show's just not for me, and I'm fine with that.
Someone on TZ said that in order to get AT, one has to stop thinking of it as a silly cartoon, and more as an adaptation of Jack Vance's The Dying Earth. Is it wrong that I'd prefer a silly cartoon to something arty and dramatic?
Quote from: Silverstar on October 06, 2013, 10:36:09 AM
Someone on TZ said that in order to get AT, one has to stop thinking of it as a silly cartoon, and more as an adaptation of Jack Vance's The Dying Earth. Is it wrong that I'd prefer a silly cartoon to something arty and dramatic?
No, but I don't think there's anything wrong with "arty" and dramatic shows, when done right.
I do think
Adventure Time is at it's weakest when it is too serious and goes too dark, and also when it feels random for randomness sake, but at the same time I can't help admiring the way it develops and treats it's characters, and the sorts of stories it writes, many of which are boundary-pushing in a good way. The weakest part of
Adventure Time, personally, is Finn. I like some of the stuff they try to do with him in the serious stories on a conceptual level, but in execution they come off more uncomfortable or bland to me, the exceptions being episodes like both of the Susan Strong episodes and "Puhoy." I'm far, far more interested in Jake, Princess Bubblegum, Marceline, Ice King, Lumpy Space Princess, and even BMO and Flame Princess than I am Finn, and the episodes I enjoy the most usually involve them being prominent with Finn having little to no role in the episode. I like
Adventure Time, I do, but recently it's trying to be too serious at the expense of fun, yet not willing to go far enough with there stories, as seem through their cop-out endings in "Too Young" and "Jake the Dog" where interesting storylines where rendered pointless by an easy fix back to the status quo. I think
Adventure Time should find the balance between comedy and it's adventure/character story arcs and not attempt to do anything as ambitious as the Lich storyline because they don't have the capability to make consequences stick. Season 3 was easily the best season in the show because it managed to find the balance, producing a season full of great episodes, and I think many people would agree with me that it was one of the best seasons of any Cartoon Network original series ever. These last two seasons, however, have been bogged down by the Lich and Finn struggling with his maturity/relationship problems and that has severely lessened my enjoyment of recent installments of the show and Finn as a character even though I quite like everyone else. This and unfunny comedy episodes like the "Graybles" trilogy make me feel that the show is running out of ideas and has only the option to focus on it's more serious elements, which aren't executed all that effectively as it is, and that's why I think the show is feeling tired to me now.
As far as Doug's problem goes, he's trying too hard to "get" the world, because he's assuming it's trying to be wierd while considering situations of normalcy, wheareas instead he should see that
Adventure Time's wierdness is it's normalcy, and stop trying to compare it to other things and other worlds he has seen before. I've never had this problem with shows like
Adventure Time, because I just accept what such shows present to me as it's "normal" reality, and focus in on how things operate as far as how characters behave and interact with each other in the world. I don't question the logic because I accept that the world in shows like
Adventure Time simply do not follow the same rules we normally expect, so I just go with it. As you continue along in these kind of shows, the way things are start making more sense as you learn more about the characters and the world they inhabit in, and the jarring aspects soon fade away. When I first watched
Adventure Time, I did not see a bunch of weirdness, but rather a world where they were simply Candy people and talking dogs and assumed it was simply natural for those things to exist in the world of the show, and went along with it, and as the episodes went on and I saw how things worked in the world of
Adventure Time, I stopped paying any second thought to it, and was able to get into the show much better. I have a feeling that as Doug watches on and he sees how the world of
Adventure Time operates that he'll start to enjoy the show more, and it's weirdness will be less confounding to him.
3 episodes in and Doug still doesn't "get" it. I honestly don't understand why he doesn't get Jake is a shapeshifter at this point, since he and Brad kept going back to how that was jarring to them. I think he is going to drop the series, at this point, since the remainder of season 1 is similar to these episodes and there really isn't any plot-developing episodes until....I guess "It came from the Nightosphere" is the earliest. Well, actually, "Memories of Boom Boom Mountain" shows a bit of Finn's backstory and gives him character development, so if he makes it to that maybe things'll start making sense to him.
Hopefully he makes it to "Ricardio the Heart Guy" at least. That's easily one of my favorite episodes in the show and I'd like to hear his reactions to it. But "Tree Trunks" is his next episode, and while I think it's a good ep, it'll no doubt be the weirdest yet for him...
The Huntsman on TZ says that he finds Regular Show to be far more random than Adventure Time. I have to disagree with that. Regular Show is similar to Rocko's Modern Life in that much of it's humor comes from the relatabe characters and situations. Yes, bizarre super natural occurances happen regularly, but they typically stem from everyday situations that people can relate to. Adventure Time never bothers to explain anything to it's audience; it just shows us this post-apocalyptic world where almost nothing is explained and leaves almost everything up to it's audience to learn about later on or to simply figure out for themselves. Another problem that I have with Adventure Time is that there are no actual jokes or genuine humor. It's just characters saying and doing random things. AT is like watching a kid play with his/her toys; you have no idea what's supposed to be happening because you don't understand the rules.
AT is also a very hard show to categorize. It's not funny enough to be a comedy, nor serious enough to be a drama. What is it?
I honestly have never found Adventure Time or Regular Show random at all, because neither have given me reason to expect that what occurs in their episodes is unusual as far as occurrences go in their world. There is consistency in how characters act, react, and interact with each other and their world in both shows, and there are rules and logic governing their behaviors. People's problems with them seem to be that they are trying to hard to see the world of the show from a familiar, normal perspective, but their worlds simply do not behave in the same way typical worlds in other shows do and will, and the sooner people understand that, the sooner they can move on from trying to figure out how things work and the strangeness of everything to focus on the characters and the story. Only then will you actually be able to find anything funny and enjoy the show. I honestly have laughed only a few times at any episode of Adventure Time, and I really don't think it's all that funny a show. However, I like it for it's stories and characters, and the dynamic between them, and that's what made me watch the series and get into it early on. Granted, I'm probably the only person on this planet who doesn't give a damn if a so-called comedy actually makes me laugh as long as the characters and stories keep me entertained. It took me till I was 13 to realize that I was supposed to be laughing at shows like Rocko or The Simpsons, and honestly that never occurred to me because my enjoyment of those shows came from seeing characters interact, go on adventures, face challenges, fuck things up, etc. So personally these kind of shows have never bothered me, and I like Adventure Time for being what it is. I like that it doesn't feel the need ot explain things to me, and honestly, if you don't realize Jake is a shapeshifter and there are simply all sorts of Princesses for various things and living normally inanimate objects in the show by episode 2, you are probably trying to hard to "get" the show than you really need too. When you watch a show like Adventure Time, you can't expect to know the rules of the show off the bat, and you shouldn't care. Watch it long enough and they'll all come to you. What matters most should be, do you like these characters and their adventures and do I want to see more of them. If the answer is no, then that's that, plain and simple.
Quote from: Goldstar on October 07, 2013, 07:54:16 AM
The Huntsman on TZ says that he finds Regular Show to be far more random than Adventure Time. I have to disagree with that. Regular Show is similar to Rocko's Modern Life in that much of it's humor comes from the relatabe characters and situations. Yes, bizarre super natural occurances happen regularly, but they typically stem from everyday situations that people can relate to. Adventure Time never bothers to explain anything to it's audience; it just shows us this post-apocalyptic world where almost nothing is explained and leaves almost everything up to it's audience to learn about later on or to simply figure out for themselves. Another problem that I have with Adventure Time is that there are no actual jokes or genuine humor. It's just characters saying and doing random things. AT is like watching a kid play with his/her toys; you have no idea what's supposed to be happening because you don't understand the rules.
This is why I've never been able to get into AT. I've laughed a few times, but at the end of the day I can't bring my self to care about whats going on. I can see why some people like it, but I've just had to move on.
That's honestly how I feel about both Adventure Time and Regular Show. I just don't care about either at all, but they're not even bad shows.
Heeeeeeee's baaaack:
http://blip.tv/phelous/halloweenie-scary-candy-6655791
Until next time when Pumpkinweenie takes over. ;D
Adventure Time vlogs are back. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/40940-adventure-time-vlogs-tree-trunks)
I think I mentioned this before, but Tree Trunks is the only character I really like from AT. I really do enjoy this episode and her return.
By the way, did anyone see Doug's editorial on zombies.
I think his editorials are great. But I think this might be the first one that's a bit of a dud. His ideas were pretty good. He just didn't elaborate enough for me.
This was officially my very last Doug Editorial.
Wow, he is boring doing these. There hasn't been one that has worked for me. His flow is awful- he keeps starting summaries, ending them, starting again, ending again. All the while, he has some ridiculous music playing in the background. The effect of listening to that music while he basically can't decide how to vocally build a functioning argument because his focus is constantly resetting, it makes him sound like he's confused. Not just because he's asking questions- he really sounds stuck. Trying to watch these videos feels like watching some kind of Public Service Announcement... for 8 to 12 minutes. Most people who actually make those videos know that you can't keep people in that musical realm for that long while trying to sound thoughtful and earnest. I can't believe I'm going here but...it's like watching that Google It Gets Better video at 3 times its length. And the idea of using This Kind of music started with human interest news segments on television. Again, they knew to keep it short. Doug does not. Even Leon Thomas keeps it shorter. Lindsay is the master at doing this right, but she builds her flow on the clips cutting her off and doesn't play "heart warming" music. Her music choices are usually relevant to the tone of the subject she's discussing. Same with Leon...usually.
Phelous has been busy lately. This one was pretty damn funny (it takes awhile to get over the joke that he's not actually insulting it but completely worth sticking around):
http://blip.tv/phelous/garfield-s-halloween-adventure-6664031
Hid editorials usually bring up interesting topics, but in many cases Doug's thoughts usually come off as rambling to me, and in some videos I'm not quite convinced that he bothered to research the subject material that much.
Diamanda's review of The Pink Angels is finally up (she announced it was coming a few months ago):
http://blip.tv/diamanda-hagan-lecher-bitch/05-03-the-pink-angels-sd-6665621
I will never have the courage to watch this film (which is one reason I consider her reviews essential watches), and... I didn't even know about the ending. Not that it shocks me in the slightest.
Also, I can't believe I never caught this 2011 episode when I was mainlining her stuff last year - it has to be one of her best:
http://blip.tv/diamanda-hagan-lecher-bitch/diamanda-hagan-review-03-07-preaching-to-the-perverted-sd-5631478
A Nostalgia Critic-related blog I follow on tumblr polled its users to figure out what their follower's favorite NC videos were, and #2 was his Les Mis video.
Tells you what kind of people are on tumblr.
Quote from: Avaitor on October 22, 2013, 02:57:52 PM
A Nostalgia Critic-related blog I follow on tumblr polled its users to figure out what their follower's favorite NC videos were, and #2 was his Les Mis video.
Tells you what kind of people are on tumblr.
...people who aren't as judgmental over liking a video on Blip?
Though I never really minded that video. Liked quite a few parts, actually.
Well here's their full list:
1- The Room (ughhhhhhhhhhh)
2- Les Miserables
3- Moulin Rouge!
4- The Last Airbender
5- It
6- Alone in the Dark
7- Patch Adams
8- Signs
9- Cat in the Hat
Apparently #9 is Doug's new personal favorite. I do really like that one myself.
Quote from: Avaitor on October 22, 2013, 05:03:01 PM
Well here's their full list:
1- The Room (ughhhhhhhhhhh)
2- Les Miserables
3- Moulin Rouge!
4- The Last Airbender
5- It
6- Alone in the Dark
7- Patch Adams
8- Signs
9- Cat in the Hat
Apparently #9 is Doug's new personal favorite. I do really like that one myself.
And what exactly is wrong with The Room's review? That's one of his top ones. A number of this list are actual good choices, if anything that says something better about his Tumblr fans than the ones on his comment pages that love anything and everything from him.
Quote from: Peanutbutter on October 22, 2013, 06:03:08 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on October 22, 2013, 05:03:01 PM
Well here's their full list:
1- The Room (ughhhhhhhhhhh)
2- Les Miserables
3- Moulin Rouge!
4- The Last Airbender
5- It
6- Alone in the Dark
7- Patch Adams
8- Signs
9- Cat in the Hat
Apparently #9 is Doug's new personal favorite. I do really like that one myself.
And what exactly is wrong with The Room's review? That's one of his top ones. A number of this list are actual good choices, if anything that says something better about his Tumblr fans than the ones on his comment pages that love anything and everything from him.
-Terrible cameo appearances
-Weak jokes at the expense of a movie that doesn't need to be mocked
-Lame overlapping opening and closing segments
Granted, there are some great gags in the review, but I'll never understand why fans like this one so much.
Out of the entries on that list, his reviews of It and Patch Adams would make my top 10 as well. The Cat in the Hat and The Last Airbender reviews were also great, but they aren't really personal favorites of mine (well, as far as his TLA review goes, it's still far too recent for me to decide that).
Quote from: Avaitor on October 22, 2013, 06:09:55 PM
Quote from: Peanutbutter on October 22, 2013, 06:03:08 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on October 22, 2013, 05:03:01 PM
Well here's their full list:
1- The Room (ughhhhhhhhhhh)
2- Les Miserables
3- Moulin Rouge!
4- The Last Airbender
5- It
6- Alone in the Dark
7- Patch Adams
8- Signs
9- Cat in the Hat
Apparently #9 is Doug's new personal favorite. I do really like that one myself.
And what exactly is wrong with The Room's review? That's one of his top ones. A number of this list are actual good choices, if anything that says something better about his Tumblr fans than the ones on his comment pages that love anything and everything from him.
-Terrible cameo appearances
-Weak jokes at the expense of a movie that doesn't need to be mocked
-Lame overlapping opening and closing segments
Granted, there are some great gags in the review, but I'll never understand why fans like this one so much.
-Only Obscures Lupa was terrible, since she can't emote her way out of a paper bag.
-90% of the jokes were hilarious, not weak. They must have hit some marks considering its one of the well-acclaimed reviews. That, plus the fact that The Room was so easy to mock that it was begging to get reviewed by him is why fans loved it.
-This one doesn't matter to me. It didn't grate on me, but they were unnecessary.
I haven't seen The Room, but from what I hear, it sounds like it could be one of those movies that Doug simply cannot do justice. Is this true, Avaitor?
Quote from: talonmalon333 on October 22, 2013, 08:41:03 PM
I haven't seen The Room, but from what I hear, it sounds like it could be one of those movies that Doug simply cannot do justice. Is this true, Avaitor?
I think so, but hey, remember, it's only my opinion here. If you don't agree, that's fine. If I come off as an ass, I'm sorry.
Quote from: Avaitor on October 22, 2013, 02:57:52 PMA Nostalgia Critic-related blog I follow on tumblr polled its users to figure out what their follower's favorite NC videos were, and #2 was his Les Mis video.
Tells you what kind of people are on tumblr.
Yikes. That is extremely yike-worthy. I don't know if I mentioned just how bad I thought that video was...but, pretty damn bad.
Quote from: Peanutbutter on October 22, 2013, 08:24:04 PM- Only Obscuras Lupa was terrible, since she can't emote her way out of a paper bag.
But, of course, comedy doesn't always rely on the same brand of emoting that hurts dramas, thrillers, more realism-based genres if done improperly.
So long as No One Ever Calls Her Unfunny, it will all be okay. Like: step away from the crazy person, he's got a knife- you do not want to call her unfunny in front of me. (No one on that site has made me laugh
half as hard. During her discussion of the "let's make pizza" scene in
Robot in the Family, I thought I was going to run out of air to breathe I laughed so hard. The
Subspecies reviews are also pure internet comedy gold.)
By the way, Kyle's newest video is pretty awesome. It's a shortie for him (8 minutes) but it looks to be a new side series developing. Hopefully.
Doug should play the Paper Mario games. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/41231-why-super-mario-comics-dont-suck)
Well, if he hasn't at least. I get what he's going for here. This is more of a PSA than a regular editorial, which is fine in my book.
I'm not going to bother with any links, I'm really lazy today. Just wanted to say I watched Bennet the Sage's multi-hour series on the Top 20 Best and Worst #1 Songs ever and... I still can't stand Sage but I always like to give him a chance and there's certainly one thing he did right, but it was also one thing I wasn't expecting: on his worst list, Ray Stevens is there. And not because "Everything is Beautiful" (which I believe was his choice) is just an annoying, weepy, cloying, or sickly sugary abomination but because Stevens actually made a flat-out racist song in the last 5 or so years (it wasn't even a parody, it was profoundly disgusting) which renders the sentiment in EiB hypocritical.
So, I'm not recommending more than 5 minutes listening to Sage but I do want to commend him for kicking Stevens' ass as well as I think he did. Without coming off angry or bitter.
COMMERCIALS! (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/41302-dawn-of-the-commercials)
AND EMILIA CLARKE IS MINE
Wow, what a cameo at the end of that commercial review!
Also, can't wait to see him destroy Man of Steel. :sly:
Yes, the cameo was perfect.
http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/one-hit-wonderland-smooth-criminal-by-alien-ant-farm-6689830
If you were in high school anywhere between the years of 1997 and 2003, you simply Must Watch This. Todd reviews the spunky nu-metal band with a sense of humor and realizes he can't talk about them without talking about the horrendously awful nu-metal subgenre.
The song is eh, especially since it's really the only song they are known for, but I actually quite like the rest of the album. Songs like "Movies" and "Wish" are great songs.
And I was in middle school when this came out, though in like 8th grade.
I half-agree with both of you. I don't think it's awesome as Todd does but it's better than ehhhh. "Movies" isn't great but I disagree with Todd who found it lousy. I think it's okay.
Meanwhile, nu-metal freaking sucks. At least that was fairly reflected in Todd's video. I would have liked to have seen more time devoted to crushing Staind- as they were literally treated like sacred cows where I grew up by several people. You have no idea how many times I was around drunken or high AWB's (angry white boys) at that time who played that shit like it was fucking torch music. Soulful ballads of My Vomit.
I liked Papa Roach and Korn back in the day, and I'll admit I do listen to it sometimes for nostalgic purposes, but that's really as far as my fandom(if you can call it that) into nu-metal really got. I always hated Staind and Creed and Limp Bizkit and Godsmack and Slipknot and Linkin Park and so on. Terrible, terrible music.
The closest thing to nu that I like is SOAD, and they don't really qualify at all.
I love this video though, and I've always had a soft spot for that song. I don't really know anything else they did, though.
When he goes through the montage of their songs and ends it with "This all sounds the same, and it sucks.", all I could think was "I thought all of those sounded good."v :lol:
Quote from: Avaitor on November 18, 2013, 08:42:57 PMThe closest thing to nu that I like is SOAD, and they don't really qualify at all.
I love this video though, and I've always had a soft spot for that song. I don't really know anything else they did, though.
In general, I give a few things from the genre/subgenre a pass. Kind of as "well, the rest just sucks So Much More that this isn't
That bad, so: let it be." System is one. Mostly it comes down to individual songs (links are there for each, in case the titles are too vague): "
The Reckoning (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8H6mNSCyjTU)" (on 2nd thought, this probably belongs in the Gravity Kills / Stabbing Westward / Rob Zombie subgenre) (oh and... I ADORE THIS SONG), "
Voodoo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSUQxGjZZ4)" (which I actually...like), "
Push It (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ps0MfBG5-Uo)," "
When Worlds Collide (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lsV500W4BHU)," "
Suburban Life (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twfCbHN06eE)," "
Dig (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIqbdnaPcT8)" (I know, I know - but it's too ridiculous to take seriously), Alien Ant Farm's typical "Smooth Criminal" cover but let me just say "Movies" is absolutely Atypical for nu-metal, it's actually closer to Blink 182 than Disturbed, Sevendust, etc(.), and, of course, "
Bodies (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04F4xlWSFh0)," probably the funniest a nu-metal song could ever be- even in theory. Also, I'm not saying I like it, but I actually put a track by The Deftones in my original Top 500 Best Singles of the 1990's ("Shove It (My Own Summer)"). Don't know why but that I'll always argue this song is actually good. Oh, and... Puddle of Mudd... I hear what Todd's saying but I'm actually only familiar with a couple of their extremely grunge-wannabe stuff like "She Hates Me" which doesn't nearly have the same loser attitude of whiny crap like "Broken Home," "You Remind Me," and every single track by Staind. It's practically bubbly. And kind of guilty pleasure proof.
Also have to bring up another group that I think skirts the line between actual full bodied rock and the KoRny sound- Jimmie's Chicken Shack who've actually been in my good graces ever since this STELLAR bit of late 90's teen "rock": http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jb9F-pScq8 . I don't actually like Incubus, but it's pretty clear that Incubus and "Dropping Anchor" are what nu-metal is
supposed to be.
Oh, I do like "Bodies". Probably more out of novelty than personal enjoyment, but I wouldn't turn it away if I had the local rock station on, like I would for Disturbed or Slipknot.
I'm only just watching now, but honestly, I really really dislike this song. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/wrecking-ball-by-miley-cyrus-6693163) So I'm curious towards Todd's thoughts on it.
Well, as you probably gleaned from my reply on Miley's new album- I thought his opinions on "We Can't Stop" were ill-informed if not condescending. So... I'll give him half-credit for this review: agreed on the video (that thing is ridiculous, Betty White and Sinead O'Connor have much cause for commentary there- and, by the way, I wrote this before I downloaded Todd's video and I absolutely did not notice the similarity of the opening shot to "Nothing Compares 2 U"), disagreed on the song. Especially that there's much connection to "Somebody That I Used to Know." And I think it's actually fairly good. As standard pop, it stands out as much as anything with this tone is going to. Of course, I think she has better material on the album. Especially "#getitright." But that almost seems like a Gwen Stefani track, very fun and decent natured. Not the mode Miley is in. I won't be surprised if her next single is the Britney Spears guest'ed "SMS (Bangerz)."
And, Todd... you're still wrong about "Where Have You Been." It's still great. At least he agrees with me on Demi Lovato. (Boring.) (Sorry, Avaitor.)
Oh yeah... my "My Follows" section on Blip just SWELLED UP to balloon size... Lupa's new Charmed review is up. 8-parts long. Something tells me this is going to be a bloodbath. (She's positive with most of the things she discusses. Charmed is another matter entirely- and I'll be damned if 5 of the last 6 reviews haven't been classic.)
Eh, Demi's latest singles haven't been that great, but she can blow anyone on the charts away vocally, including Ariana Grande, who Todd seems to stan now.
I agree with Todd, right now Miley Cyrus looks like Justin Bieber with Photoshopped boobs.
She looks like one of them stereotyped lesbians to me.
But I did get a laugh out of Todd's pointing out his misheard lyrics in Wrecking Ball, if only because they were close to what I heard on a casual hearing of the song.
Well, if Miley can change and become interesting- there's hope for Demi yet. :P
If there's one thing Todd did a great job with, it was putting this song in context: I think he's right that this year has been abysmal for pop. But even if there was a lot he forgot to mention, any of it good (Rihanna's "What Now" is the best song I've heard this year... and the album is now a year-old, this is unheard of for her- she hasn't released a single or video for a 12-month old album in her 8 year career), he just piled up all the right references for his clipshow.
But, good news, Lily Allen's back. And she seems pissed off again (I wouldn't have it any other way): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0CazRHB0so You'll note in this video, she looks over at a screen of what could easily be half of Miley's entourage and doesn't find them judging her. Isn't that strange?
Quote from: No-Personality on November 23, 2013, 05:09:30 AM
Well, if Miley can change and become interesting- there's hope for Demi yet. :P
Ooohh,
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And "We Can't Stop" is awful. Just a shallow pop song in which she tries to define herself by being a "rebel"(this also ties into her persona the last several months, and the stunts at both VMA shows). Way to go, too bad so many before you have done it. At least in "Wrecking Ball" she's actually trying musically to make a decent song, even if I still don't like it.
As an aside, I don't really get her new persona, it certainly doesn't make her attractive in anyway. She looks great in the video for "Party in the USA"*.
The short hair doesn't do much, and parading around sticking her tongue out doesn't help either.
*Yes, I realize I'm riding a fine line here, no Old Guy comments please.
I have to agree, this was not a good year for pop either. As hard as I try, I can't get into new Miley, even if it's in a different way from how I can't get into old Miley, while
-Everything I've heard from Lady Gaga is ungodly dull (with THIS ALBUM, mind you. I too like a lot of her previous stuff, even if I'm no Monster)
-Katy Perry's still Katy Perry- terrible vocal performances and lyrics saved by strong production, but not nearly enough to justify her continuing overwhelming popularity
-Selena Gomez exists and makes Miley and Demi look like Zappa and Patton
-This 70's revival thing peaked early and anything in this vein since JT came back sounds boring as fuck, and that includes both "Blurred Lines" and "Get Lucky"
-That Lorde chick who for the longest time I thought was supposed to be those GWAR knock-offs who won Eurovision, but apparently not, she just made a boring song that's all over the radio
-And Macklemore, who in hindsight, has shit flow and dull as dishwater songwriting skills. Yes, he made a powerful statement with "Same Love", but it's still the most boring song on the face of the earth.
I still like Demi and Eminem's new albums (the best songs on hers probably won't make it as singles- she seems really against making a slow song a single again for whatever reason), but the only other song I can think of that I liked this year was "Treasure".
Still better than what's been up with the rock charts though. One great song hits the radio ("God is Dead?") and shortly gets a weak edit, then later is overshadowed by new A7X and whatever else is popular now. Not to mention that my local rock station has lately had a passion for playing Load-era Metallica on there a LOT.
I do like the Lorde song, but everything else I agree with. I actually kind of liked Lady Gaga's past music, but the new stuff out now is pretty bad. There's a new song that's just coming on the radio that sounds decent in the beginning, but it gets worse as the song goes on, especially after R-Kelly comes in.
Katy Perry is probably the most boring mass pop star ever to exist. None of her songs are anything special or provocative(even I Kissed A Girl isn't that big of a deal when you look back on it), very few of them are in anyway catchy, and I don't really see anything that would make people listen to them, much less spend money on the album.
And I don't know about anything new in the modern rock world, haven't been keeping up on it. But I guess new A7X is always gonna be the same A7X.
Quote from: Comeau on November 23, 2013, 10:13:13 AMAnd "We Can't Stop" is awful. Just a shallow pop song in which she tries to define herself by being a "rebel"(this also ties into her persona the last several months, and the stunts at both VMA shows). Way to go, too bad so many before you have done it. At least in "Wrecking Ball" she's actually trying musically to make a decent song, even if I still don't like it.
As an aside, I don't really get her new persona, it certainly doesn't make her attractive in anyway. She looks great in the video for "Party in the USA"*.
The short hair doesn't do much, and parading around sticking her tongue out doesn't help either.
*Yes, I realize I'm riding a fine line here, no Old Guy comments please.
Even if I hated what Miley is doing now, I would realize it's easy not to "have to" look at it unless you're stalking Todd or some kid on Tumblr. So, I'm yawning at all this "but this doesn't make her look attractive" nonsense. I don't actually think it makes a difference what someone looks like- if I didn't learn that from being fat in school and gay in my 20's, I'd be a real hypocrite. Especially since this - to everyone else - looks like a Declaration of Party. Which would be pretty old after "Just Dance" and "Tik Tok," wouldn't it? And "Party in the USA," as a matter; a song basically saying "turn on a song that we all can dance to, music is the universal language."
It's possible that some of this is her backlash against people who mocked her for "Can't Be Tamed." And if you want to talk awful. If you want to talk shallow, trying to define herself by being a rebel. So... if it were - though I certainly haven't come across anyone with that theory yet (seems like an obvious one) - that would do all the devaluing people want for what looks on the surface to be this reject from Ke$ha's "Die Young" b-side pile. But instead, Todd's theories on the song have been rejects from the "Ke$ha's tracks like "Die Young" and "Blow" are saying
the world's gone to hell, fuck it: let's party!!" pile. I believe this is much more Miley's attempt at a Lady Gaga "don't let them judge you, do your thing" anthem.
Like I said in the Unpopular Opinions thread, I believe she is doing this because people keep reacting the way of superficial and putting any stock into how important appearances are. That Justin Bieber joke especially was pretty low, tasteless, and not very smart. Sure, others take it further and make the kind of claims Miley is actually shrugging off in the song. But this "rebel stunt" feels like it's very warranted after - let's say - Ke$ha and the Mountain of Jokes people made about her peeing, puking, and not showering just because all her famed songs are about partying. How cerebral. It's reactions like these that turned me into this advocate for trash pop that I seem to be now.
Well, that and the fact that it's a better symbol of our times than horror has been the last 10 years. Or the "My Humps" decade. Which I'm more than fine with having represent the times as a figurative mascot. Because the more I feel I have to give up on communities like this and ThatGuy to see any further than their own reactions (which I definitely did when I actually sat through Miley's latest - pretty darn good - album), the more I feel like I'm going to become one of Miley's hangerons. And I mean the ones in the club. Right about now, I'd rather associate myself with them. I don't see
them making a huge deal out of how anyone else looks.
Another good example is Katy Perry's infamous "tweet" after Gaga's video for "Alejandro" came out. Shouldn't I as a gay man have been the one complaining that Lady Gaga was pandering to our community for nothing more than industry cred to sell more downloads, etc.? I could've tried but I'd have been drowned out by the absurd amount of straight people feeling they need to be speaking for me when they're really just speaking for themselves through the LGBT community. Hypocrisy is fun when the only ones who can point it out are a criminally underrepresented voice in the mainstream. Perry got some heat for her conservative tantrum over the video but the public majority actually embraced her point of view rather than give her a dose of her own medicine and lash out at her for telling them what to think.
That said, I completely agree on "I Kissed a Girl." I actually appreciate that it got people talking. Which might not have been her intention but, there ya go. The one time she did something too dumb to be malicious and that's when the masses swarmed on her. That and the foam-spurting boobs. People: the whole video was atrocious and one of the most disgusting things to be produced in pop in some time. There's a lot more than foam-spurting boobs to react to but you can always count on the boobs and the lesbianism to get people talking. By comparison, "Ur So Gay" (which might be something worth getting ruffled about since it really throws the dart down the middle and goes after All Men, so there's at least one serious asshole on that writing team) didn't even exist.
Lorde's "Royals" is my biggest guilty pleasure.
And Katy Perry is talented. Her songs just all sound the same.
Relevant, from Comedy Central's FB feed:
QuoteToday is Miley Cyrus 21st birthday. Finally, she can start drinking and going out to clubs.
Quote from: Avaitor on November 23, 2013, 11:34:02 AM
-This 70's revival thing peaked early and anything in this vein since JT came back sounds boring as fuck, and that includes both "Blurred Lines" and "Get Lucky"
This is worthy of a ban.
Is banning Avaitor even possible? :P
Sorry, Daft isn't my thing.
Blame, well, Daft. :P
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Quote from: Foggle on November 23, 2013, 04:08:27 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on November 23, 2013, 11:34:02 AM
-This 70's revival thing peaked early and anything in this vein since JT came back sounds boring as fuck, and that includes both "Blurred Lines" and "Get Lucky"
This is worthy of a ban.
*nods*
Nah, nah. Opinions. :rtard: Despite all the great music I've heard this year, though, I still think Random Access Memories is the best album that came out. And Get Lucky, overplayed as it was, is still a cool track.
The song featuring the guy from The Strokes is still the best, though.
Royals is a legitimately great song. It's meant to be a slap at the rap and pop stars who talk about lives of luxury while pointing out what ordinary teens lives are really like. It's beat isn't energetic but that doesn't make it boring.
Chemical Brothers > Daft Punk
(The only exception being "Around the World" > "Let Forever Be") (and "Around the World" > "Block Rockin' Beats") (and "Around the World" > "Life is Sweet") (and "Around the World" > "The Private Psychedelic Reel") (But, any other song, CB > DP)
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Huh.
I actually went on JO's tumblr earlier today, and saw that she personally requested a TGWTG blog to remove any and all posts about her, so I guess that's related.
Rejuvenique. Just... just... Rejuvenique.
I normally enjoy Infomercialism, but this one had me in Tears laughing. Poor Mike J.
I've been meaning to start checking that series out. Haven't gotten around to it yet.
Meanwhile, both JewWario and Diamanda Hagan (with wife in tow, The Omega who has her own short-lived channel and reviewed one of the most nostalgic things on the planet: Unico in the Island of Magic) are doing cooking shows now. JW's is... very helpful and full of insanely easy-to-follow directions. And the katsudon looks freaking delicious. I'm avoiding sharing any real opinions but, now I think I know why I never had the curiosity to check his stuff out before. However, I am addicted to DH's. It's on her channel but she's been uploading one every single day so far and has 4 already. Of course, there's a fundamental difference in their material. He cooks things semi-professionally and with an emphasis on healthy eating. Diamanda and Omega are trying to experiment with ideas that could be professional but are so radical, some people will likely run screaming. The results have been extremely encouraging so far since only the "Fruit Fajitas" sounded like a really bad idea. I think that could easily be described as the only all-out fail.
At the end of every video, Omega comes up with about 5-10 different variations on the cooking instructions from the front of the video and only with the "Fruit Fajitas" did she suggest: no fruit, not going to work no matter what you do. They should have tried to cook the Gafilta Fish Tacos another way to try and salvage the idea. Sounds intriguing to me.
Doug's back with Disneycember. (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/disneycember-song-of-the-south-6698540) This time, he's doing live-action.
I hope he picks and chooses some of the good ones from Walt's age.
Come to think of it, I never even finished watching last year's Disneycember. I remember disagreeing with a lot of Doug's opinions, though, but that's never too uncommon, as it is. I just feel that the videos themselves felt a bit to "rambly" for my taste, which is why I stopped keeping up with them. Hopefully this year he can keep them a bit briefer and much more concise.
Eh, while I do agree with him on parts of Song of the South, a lot of his same problems are still present. His trying to speak for everyone, unnecessary repeated phrases like "I dunno", inconsistent critiquing.
I'm still interested in this set since there's a handful of live-action Disney movies I'm very interested in seeing tackled, but I wish he could do his homework.
I couldn't have discovered harder last year that all the research in the world isn't going to change your reaction to these movies. So, I didn't bother: I spent almost $300 on building up a collection of these movies and, after really sitting through them again, I could have saved a lot of that and put it to better use. I thought that nostalgic magic feeling would take over and make up for the flaws (of films running rampant with them, such as Old Yeller). This was not the case.
Not sure how this relates to Doug but, he's got a mighty lot of flicks to check out here, to hopefully make this month complete. I do wonder something... is he going to only do 1 review a day? So, he's only going to choose 31 live-action movies?
Just got finished watching his video (I downloaded it in the middle of writing this reply) and, if anything, his "ehhh"ness is a good reflection of what this movie does to unbiased people. Again, I have to say what I said on the Disney board- whether the filmmakers meant to be racist toward the audience, the Animated Characters are still clearly racist depictions of black people. The bear character is portrayed as mentally-handicapped to the point where only his having been inbred would explain how his extreme gullibility could even be possible, the fox character is a classic representation of black people as vicious, self-hating killers (at one point, he literally has "his prey" in a hangman's noose- ...suuurre, that's not suggestive of anything at all in the history of things; sorry, but this goes WAY beyond "nature makes the fox and rabbit enemies"), and the rabbit is a slippery, smooth-talking weasel with no self-respect. If he were an adult, he'd practically be the pimp character in Warner Bros.' Coal Black and Da Sebben Dwarfs.
So, let's play a game of what movies you saw in the clips. Go: Parent Trap, Santa Clause, Darby O'Gill, 20000 Leagues, Return to Oz, Tron, Babes in Toyland... Princess Diaries (uh...), Hocus Pocus (oh, I can't freaking WAIT for that!), The Rocketeer, Honey I Shrunk the Kids, Bedknobs & Broomsticks, Mary Poppins. And Pirates (never bothered with those) and I guess Narnia (who cares about this one though?).
Quote from: No-Personality on December 01, 2013, 06:59:35 PM
Just got finished watching his video (I downloaded it in the middle of writing this reply) and, if anything, his "ehhh"ness is a good reflection of what this movie does to unbiased people. Again, I have to say what I said on the Disney board- whether the filmmakers meant to be racist toward the audience, the Animated Characters are still clearly racist depictions of black people. The bear character is portrayed as mentally-handicapped to the point where only his having been inbred would explain how his extreme gullibility could even be possible, the fox character is a classic representation of black people as vicious, self-hating killers (at one point, he literally has "his prey" in a hangman's noose- ...suuurre, that's not suggestive of anything at all in the history of things; sorry, but this goes WAY beyond "nature makes the fox and rabbit enemies"), and the rabbit is a slippery, smooth-talking weasel with no self-respect. If he were an adult, he'd practically be the pimp character in Warner Bros.' Coal Black and Da Sebben Dwarfs.
It's kind of ironic that you feel that way, since the animated segments are the ones Disney has been most inclined to actually release.
Oh, I live in a world of my own and I know it: neither Nostalgia Critic or Chick found any of this in the animated sequences or, truthfully, analyzed their storytelling at all.
For some reason, people are inclined to read all sorts of bad messages in The Little Mermaid's depiction of Ariel or Pocahontas's entirely par-for-the-course Disneyfication of history. But, for Song of the South, it's just "wacky, over the top animation." Hell, some are even willing to half-criticize Belle for her Stockholm Syndrome. But the B'rer Pack? Nada.
Here's 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/41517-disneycember-20000-leagues-under-the-sea)
Yes, I'm too lazy to fetch links (feel free to edit me to add them, y'all are moderators here anyway)...
Doug's Top 12 Santa's Video. When I saw it was almost 30 minutes, I was sure it'd be 12% skits (at least). Nope. 20 second ad thingy at the end for The Awesome Store, but the rest is all Doug, all gushing over Christmas, and thanks to him, I will definitely be checking out Ernest Saves Christmas this year.
Oh yeah, and Lupa has a new Baywatch review. And it's just as good as the first (though it's about half the length), so make that (and the first if you haven't seen it) a priority watch.
Here's the video. (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nc-top-12-santa-clauses-6698975) I'm watching it now, but I have to admit, I don't get Doug's, or most people's, love for Christmas. Maybe I'm just too Jewish to. :p
And here are Doug's takes on the two (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/disneycember-davy-crockett-king-of-the-wild-frontier-6698976) Davy Crockett (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/disneycember-davy-crockett-and-the-river-pirates-6698979) movies. I hope Doug realizes that these were first aired on the Disneyland TV show before being put into theaters.
Edit: Huh, is the Wonder Years Christmas episode not on Netflix? It shouldn't be that hard to find. Wait, and why did he go with the colorized version of Miracle on 34th Street?
Onto quick TGwtG business that I forgot to mention previously: I've been doing a lot of criticizing of The Cinema Snob this year but I want to recommend his recent episode on
Basket Case, one of my Top 100 Horror Films. Linky - http://blip.tv/the-cinema-snob/basket-case-by-the-cinema-snob-6692509 . It was legitimately in good spirits and makes me really want to watch the movie again (even though I've seen it 3 times). For...some reason, I've actually been following him closer than usual the last couple months and want to also mention his review on
Halloween was excellent, while his 2-part review on some shitty Christian propaganda documentary was a real misfire. Though I see where his heart was at, this highlights again my problem with him as a reviewer- he doesn't know where his Snob attitude belongs. He smugly reviews certain bad movies like they've actually been given an unfair shake, good movies like they're actually trash (granted, this doesn't happen often but when it does it really bothers me), and then he literally reviews this silly preachy video like it offends him personally. Even though it's clear from the getgo that this was like a fart at the RNC- only circulates with people so surrounded by the smell of dung that they won't notice. Get hip, Snob, the big online conspiracy theorist money's in "exposing" the Illuminati. (That is, the imaginary branch of said organization charged with taking out mobsterian hits on Whitney, Michael, and David Carradine. Because...
that's how you terrorize America. By going after clearly troubled people with a wealth of personal problems or tabloid scandals. Wake up, America. They'll come for you too! Once you become rich and famous, have your skin color change radically, become a teen idol, and a drug addict, have children with veiled women, and they make MadTV sketches parodying you. Wait... wasn't MadTV canceled?)
Quote from: Avaitor on December 03, 2013, 05:04:10 PMHere's the video. (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nc-top-12-santa-clauses-6698975) I'm watching it now, but I have to admit, I don't get Doug's, or most people's, love for Christmas. Maybe I'm just too Jewish to. :p
Nostalgia. Commercialization is beautiful to a kid. It's one of the reasons we cling to so many ridiculous things from the era of back-when, way past the point of "I know they're embarrassing and you're right." It's impossible for us to completely care about the flaws something has (this is always a case-by-case basis thing, there are exceptions) if it's something we loved as a kid (if we remember something that we loved hardcore, a good chunk of that love will stay alive, if we remember something we liked or showed mild, fleeting interest in, we could look at it much more objectively). Clearly, nostalgia in this case is a symptom and "the disease" (some will consider this a really bad thing, others will just accept that most people are affected by it) is that you look at your childhood fondly if you remember feeling safer or having a great deal less responsibility as a kid. Or if you were abused or were just on hard times and your escape from reality
was Thundercats or
Eureka's Castle or
Fresh Prince of Bel-Air or family trips to Burger King or Lite Brite or Power Wheels or whatever. You know.
There just happens to be this big common experience most American kids (especially born in the 80's, when of course Denying All Our Problems and hiding behind your material things was at the height of popularity) have with Christmas as this commercial-capital cultural mecca and they see it as harmless (where, religious or not, that might be a dangerous thing) and... in a way, maybe I won't go that far. But I do think it's like this weirdly unspoken-connection form of art we all recognize if your family had this insane amount of traditions centered around the stuff we view as nostalgic about the holiday: ornaments, wrapping paper, miniature colored light bulbs, garland, extention cords, tinsel, songs by people whose names we can't remember (Feliz Navidad, those Snoopy / Red Baron serials, all those songs from
Home Alone), etc. It all melts together into this odd mosaic of electrically warm, fuzzy memories and shiny artificial happiness. And it's kept alive by the people who loved it as a kid because there's always something we seem to want to escape. Like: self-analyzation and the trend of ironic superficiality (or The 90's). Or The 80's, Part 2 (aka: the "Dubya" Years).
And, did you ever think there might be more to it that Doug does this Disney thing in December? Any Disney fan of internet age (a term I'm just using for someone savvy with social networking) should be keenly aware of how hard people cling to their Disney nostalgia. It's the same thing with Christmas. (Even if Disney doesn't seem to care as much about making money off of all their nostalgic things with fans of the Disney Afternoon era channel. I guess as long as they have so many stupid new franchises raking in Stupid Kid dough, they don't care about the stupid kids of yesteryear.)
And I thought the same thing you did about
The Wonder Years. Although, I think he would say the same thing if the only clip he could find was some YouTuber clipping just 90 seconds of some actor they like playing a side character (or some woman smoking- that is
Way too big a thing on YouTube).
I don't plan on ever seeing Song of the South. Not just because it sounds like a "meh" movie, but to me, those cartoon segments will always be Splash Mountain.
More Disneycembers-
Darby O'Gill and the Little People (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/41558-disneycember-darby-ogill-and-the-little-people)
Both Parent Traps (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/41557-disneycember-the-parent-trap)
I really like Darby O'Gill and the original Parent Trap. The Lohan version has its merits too, but I can't remember the last time I've seen it.
But did Doug really say that Hayley Mills got her start with Parent Trap? Not only was that not even her first Disney movie, she started out in England before meeting Walt. Silly Doug.
New Brows Held High today:
http://blip.tv/brows-held-high/brows-held-high-shame-6700054
The last 8 minutes are especially good.
Us Jews don't talk about this movie. (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nc-8-crazy-nights-6700923)
Never saw Eight Crazy Nights, but I don't have to in order to know it wasn't "Garbage Pail Kids BAD!" as Rob put it. The phone joke, Gollum, and his apologizing to Man of Steel (even though he accidentally said Batman) were funny, but the rest was boring.
His one next time should be better.
I think it had some of Doug's best jokes in a while, personally. I loved the Popeye bit and anything with the Happy Gillmore crowd.
I thought it was quite hilarious. I was especially laughing hard at the phone call with Adam Sandler sequence, so much so that I rewatched it...and still laughed through it! Honestly the hardest I've laughed at a NC in a long while.
Quote from: Peanutbutter on December 10, 2013, 07:25:26 PMNever saw Eight Crazy Nights, but I don't have to in order to know it wasn't "Garbage Pail Kids BAD!" as Rob put it.
Compared to Adam Sandler's worst, which 8CN certainly is among, I think
Garbage Pail Kids gets a bad rap. It's nonsensical and grotesque but...I've seen a lot worse. Hell, there are lines of bad taste that I think that movie didn't cross- the scenes of the angry parents berating their innocent children after Howie Mandel & Fred Savage's prank spree in
Little Monsters (aka- the kids' movie rendition of
Street Trash, and I mean that in terms of tone mainly), for example. That went about as far over the line as any kids movie I've ever seen; some of those children looked genuinely terrified- which is bad enough for an audience to sit through.
Yet, I would say 8CN is probably the worst thing by that time sold to a mainstream audience.
Oh man, I hated 8 Crazy Nights. I remember when it came out and it was being compared to Bigger, Longer, and Uncut. Which is such a bullshit comparison because it's nowhere near the level of BLU. You can only take so much of Sandler making fun of some handicapped old man who doesn't shave and his wife(sister? Whatever she was?) before the movie ends up in the trash heap.
The jokes with the Happy Madison crowd were dull, and hypocritically used the same poop jokes the Critic mocked. I would not call Eight Crazy Nights among his worst. Not in the slightest. A lot of people out there on the web don't consider it to be either from what I can tell.
I don't actually hate Adam Sandler (I even admit to genuinely liking some of his movies; the key word being "some"), but yeah, I never bothered with 8CN because I kind of knew it would be shit just from the trailers.
Something about the Happy Madison crowd jokes kind of rubbed me the wrong way, though. I'm totally behind poking fun at the fan base of something (I've certainly done it before), but the NC'sjokes almost seemed too exaggerated in this one, and killing them with a grenade wasn't exactly my idea of funny. I mean, really, Doug?
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on December 11, 2013, 09:15:03 AM
I don't actually hate Adam Sandler (I even admit to genuinely liking some of his movies; the key word being "some"), but yeah, I never bothered with 8CN because I kind of knew it would be shit just from the trailers.
Something about the Happy Madison crowd jokes kind of rubbed me the wrong way, though. I'm totally behind poking fun at the fan base of something (I've certainly done it before), but the NC'sjokes almost seemed too exaggerated in this one, and killing them with a grenade wasn't exactly my idea of funny. I mean, really, Doug?
Yeah, that wasn't necessary at all. I blame Rob for writing that.
Anyway, I too am a big fan of Sandler, but I'll freely admit his last few comedies have sucked. Really hope he charges his batteries with a Funny People role again.
From my side, it always rubbed me the wrong way that one of the few films out there to heavily involve Hanukkah was as lame as this. Sandler may have done worse, but I'm definitely against this film's existence.
After re-listening to just 10 episodes of the 2011 Disneycember, I think I can easily say 2013 is vastly superior. I actually want to see Freaky Friday the remake now.
His Mary Poppins review is exactly what his editorials should be.
As someone who's not a big fan of his Disneycember videos, I do think his Mary Poppins one was good. You can tell it's a movie that he's really passionate about, and that extended into the video.
I'm still behind on his Disneycember videos, but the Freaky Friday remake is actually pretty good. The original isn't one of my favorites (unlike the Parent Trap, where I think he's underselling the original a little), but even if it was, the newer one didn't do anything to disservice it, but rather added some stronger gags.
And this isn't nostalgia talking from me. I didn't see the remake until a year or two ago,and I was like 12 when it came out anyway, so this isn't one I grew up with fondly.
Agreed on
Parent Trap. I might not love the film myself if it weren't such an inseparable part of my nostalgia. Though I also think it's beautifully atmospheric and so massively shot- the worlds in Disney films often look huge, animated or not.
As for the 90's ability to produce nostalgia... I think Hollywood killed that in '99 with shit like
Gone in 60 Seconds (which is such a would-be Michael Bay, it's transparent) and Disney killed it with... well, Lindsay Lohan. I'm thinking
Life Size, personally. How can people be nostalgic for big budget Hollywood stuff when it literally begins to smell like pure research screening and manipulative pandering? It's like eating KFC while standing in the factory watching the workers abuse the hell out of the animals. To me. Which is why I rage so hard sometimes against trends in Hollywood. To say the least, it lacks any chance of personal artistic touches. And feels like corporate fat-asses tea-bagging me right in the face. (Without my permission.)
Quote from: talonmalon333 on December 12, 2013, 12:29:34 PMAs someone who's not a big fan of his Disneycember videos, I do think his Mary Poppins one was good. You can tell it's a movie that he's really passionate about, and that extended into the video.
In this case, he gave the video more than passion- he wrote it well. The passion helps but... he could have sold that movie to a blind person. Or a deaf person. Or someone who adamantly hates Disney. He probably covered every base. If he didn't, he made sure to cover the ones he did cover so thoroughly and just so well. Maybe he didn't even write it. It felt like he was vlogging but from the viewpoint of someone who knows the movie like the back of his hand, like it all just rolled right off his tongue. Well, that it did anyway.
My major issue with the 2011 cycle was that the animated films - while they definitely inspire a ridiculous amount of divergent feelings - are not quite the "kinda, sorta" types of movies. Not most of them. A person can form far more concrete opinions, he spent a lot of time verbally stumbling- seemingly because he didn't want to irritate anyone. At least, I hope he was trying to please everyone. I'd hate to think he has this much trouble making up his mind.
I actually watched The Parent Trap again a few nights ago, and despite it being a basic kids movie overall, I still find some layers in it which make it worth rediscovery. David Swift had a great love for melding facial expressions, and got plenty of emotion out of his cast by commanding a plethora of perfect shots out of them- in combination of the actors and their muscles, sharp lighting, appropriate headroom, etc. The supporting characters are also unanimously filled with life. The reverend just cracks me up each time I watch the movie, and I'll probably forget everything about a Godard movie before I forget Miss Inch's mannerisms.
As for the 2011 Disneycember videos, one thing I definitely remember is being annoyed with how much time Doug spent on synopsises for each movie. Some of the lesser films may need a little explanation of the plot, sure, but does he really think that there are people who will watch these videos that don't know the basic idea behind Snow White or The Lion King? he could have dedicated the time to more analysis, but nope.
I'm catching up with Disneycember now.
I take it Doug isn't a Laurel & Hardy fan.
Watched the Man of Steel review finally. It was full of rehashed material but, it wasn't exactly bad. Not to the tune of some of the nasty comments I've heard slung Doug's way (including from Phil Buni of The Bunny Perspective- who has had his own Spoony-ish Twitter meltdown recently, being outright fired from Lindsay's Chez Apocalypse and going on similar mini-rampages against TGwtG). The real problem with almost any review is taking a "middle road" on a film that so clearly is crap. And, 40 minutes for that? Cracks from the start. But, Doug's arguments were great. I've never watched an Angry Joe "review" (just his SOPA vlogs) and this is the reason why.
The review itself wasn't taking a middle of the road stance. Doug clearly hated the movie. It's just that Angry Joe got to defend it a little bit.
As for me, I still have yet to see MOS, but I didn't mind watching the review for spoilers since I doubt it'll effect my opinion of the movie when I finally do watch it.
Considering Joe's recent incredibly childish on-camera tantrum concerning the YouTube copyright crackdown, I've been considering just to stop watching him lately. Granted, he had every right to be mad, and the way YouTube has been handling this thing has been awful, but that was one of the most unprofessional ways to handle that ever.
I tend to enjoy AT4W, but the latest episode may be the worst I've seen on his show. Having to listen to such forced, awkward rhyming for 20 minutes... :whuh: This was the first episode that I couldn't finish.
Quote from: Nel_Annette on December 16, 2013, 10:13:56 PM
Considering Joe's recent incredibly childish on-camera tantrum concerning the YouTube copyright crackdown, I've been considering just to stop watching him lately. Granted, he had every right to be mad, and the way YouTube has been handling this thing has been awful, but that was one of the most unprofessional ways to handle that ever.
It's a big chunk of his income for what he does as a living. I don't watch him, but why shouldn't he be angry? And how is it unprofessional?
At any rate, he did another video about it too, and it was much more calm. But again, considering Google's laziness and the damage it could possibly cause (and not just on gamers, there's a game developer who's promtional video was affected by this), I think he had every right to be as angry as he was.
I said he has every right to be angry. But screaming the same thing over and over for 20 minutes almost to the point of tears isn't how you handle it. The calm video should have been the only one.
Does anyone know what's been happening with Lindsay Ellis and Team NChick? None of them have released a review or anything in a couple of months. I know that Elisa Hansen married Paw Duggan (sp?) a little while ago, and they both did commentary over Paw's Music Movies review of Disney's Fantasia, but I heard anything about them since. I hope that nothing bad has happened.
Quote from: Daikun on December 17, 2013, 12:25:56 AM
I tend to enjoy AT4W, but the latest episode may be the worst I've seen on his show. Having to listen to such forced, awkward rhyming for 20 minutes... :whuh: This was the first episode that I couldn't finish.
Yeah, the comic was wonderfully weird, but I was really hoping Linkara wasn't going to try to do the whole review in rhyme. I understand it was for the holidays, but it was too gimmicky and made the whole thing hard to sit through. :unimpressed:
So who wants to make a count of TGWTG members that didn't become assholes this year?
Speaking of Linkara... That
Alpha's Magical Christmas review was not fun. I rewatched that just because it's practically Christmas. It's the first Lupa Christmas review which wasn't a homerun. Crossovers are nearly always a
disaster.
Speaking of Lupa, she's sure picked up the slack recently! 2
Witchcraft reviews in nearly a week. Both good too.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on December 17, 2013, 02:19:50 PMSo who wants to make a count of TGWTG members that didn't become assholes this year?
How do you mean? What could possibly have happened to involve a large number of them at one time?
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on December 16, 2013, 05:17:23 PMThe review itself wasn't taking a middle of the road stance. Doug clearly hated the movie. It's just that Angry Joe got to defend it a little bit.
I disagree- he completely copped out in the end. And, except for congratulating the "awesomeness" of the destruction scenes, Joe didn't have any good or interesting points to defend the movie. I would have not bothered to watch the review at all if it weren't for one thing... Foldable Human (part of Lindsay's Chez Apocalypse) has an interpretation of the film as some kind of subversion of jingoistic themes rather than a celebration of them. I watched his video and... he spent most of it reeling on other superhero movies. Just about every single one. Including
The Avengers, which most people seem to like. To say the least, I don't yet see his point and would like to see someone actually confront the fact that the film seems to be a braindead "
America, Fuck Yeah!" on the surface, not to mention the Jesus themes (which is why I congratulated Doug).
Quote from: Goldstar on December 17, 2013, 11:49:17 AMDoes anyone know what's been happening with Lindsay Ellis and Team NChick? None of them have released a review or anything in a couple of months. I know that Elisa Hansen married Paw Duggan (sp?) a little while ago, and they both did commentary over Paw's Music Movies review of Disney's Fantasia, but I heard anything about them since. I hope that nothing bad has happened.
I'm assuming Lindsay's ready to call it quits on Nostalgia Chick completely. This is about the 3rd or possibly even 4th hiatus this year. I say possibly 4 because she hasn't done any videos on
50 Shades of Green either. 2 full breaks, independent of one another, then 5SoG dropped off, then she came back with 2 videos, disappeared for yet another month and a half, then 1 video and 2 months of silence. Again. I've read up on her Twitter and she keeps talking about Mtv. As in: she's there. In their building. I'm thinking she's getting a job somewhere.
Elisa is a mystery. She said she had plans for the channel. During her commentary for
Interview with the Vampire. I'm guessing the marriage is going to shake up her schedule while she / they make relocation plans. I give her the benefit of a doubt over Lindsay because I know Elisa has a real passion for what she's doing. Time will tell.
How exactly is the NC saying that he still thinks MOS is "terrible" at the end of the video a cop-out or taking the middle of the road?
I thought that Lupa and Linkara's Alpha's Magical Christmas review was pretty funny, myself. I never knew that this "special" even existed until I saw the review last year. Who thought that Alpha and a bunch of kids hanging out in the Command Center while singing Xmas carols with obviously dubbed singing voices for half an hour was a good idea? Made even cheesier by the excuse that the Power Rangers were off "helping Santa". ("That's mighty morphin bull poo! They just didn't want to pay the actors for another day of shooting!")
Quote from: No-Personality on December 17, 2013, 09:36:38 PM
Speaking of Linkara... That Alpha's Magical Christmas review was not fun. I rewatched that just because it's practically Christmas. It's the first Lupa Christmas review which wasn't a homerun. Crossovers are nearly always a disaster.
Speaking of Lupa, she's sure picked up the slack recently! 2 Witchcraft reviews in nearly a week. Both good too.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on December 17, 2013, 02:19:50 PMSo who wants to make a count of TGWTG members that didn't become assholes this year?
How do you mean? What could possibly have happened to involve a large number of them at one time?
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on December 16, 2013, 05:17:23 PMThe review itself wasn't taking a middle of the road stance. Doug clearly hated the movie. It's just that Angry Joe got to defend it a little bit.
I disagree- he completely copped out in the end. And, except for congratulating the "awesomeness" of the destruction scenes, Joe didn't have any good or interesting points to defend the movie. I would have not bothered to watch the review at all if it weren't for one thing... Foldable Human (part of Lindsay's Chez Apocalypse) has an interpretation of the film as some kind of subversion of jingoistic themes rather than a celebration of them. I watched his video and... he spent most of it reeling on other superhero movies. Just about every single one. Including The Avengers, which most people seem to like. To say the least, I don't yet see his point and would like to see someone actually confront the fact that the film seems to be a braindead "America, Fuck Yeah!" on the surface, not to mention the Jesus themes (which is why I congratulated Doug).
Quote from: Goldstar on December 17, 2013, 11:49:17 AMDoes anyone know what's been happening with Lindsay Ellis and Team NChick? None of them have released a review or anything in a couple of months. I know that Elisa Hansen married Paw Duggan (sp?) a little while ago, and they both did commentary over Paw's Music Movies review of Disney's Fantasia, but I heard anything about them since. I hope that nothing bad has happened.
I'm assuming Lindsay's ready to call it quits on Nostalgia Chick completely. This is about the 3rd or possibly even 4th hiatus this year. I say possibly 4 because she hasn't done any videos on 50 Shades of Green either. 2 full breaks, independent of one another, then 5SoG dropped off, then she came back with 2 videos, disappeared for yet another month and a half, then 1 video and 2 months of silence. Again. I've read up on her Twitter and she keeps talking about Mtv. As in: she's there. In their building. I'm thinking she's getting a job somewhere.
Elisa is a mystery. She said she had plans for the channel. During her commentary for Interview with the Vampire. I'm guessing the marriage is going to shake up her schedule while she / they make relocation plans. I give her the benefit of a doubt over Lindsay because I know Elisa has a real passion for what she's doing. Time will tell.
....So basically, because the Critic said he understood Joe's POV, as well as the people who loved the movie; it's a cop-out? Because YOU think it was terrible and no leeway should be given whatsoever? If that is how you really think,
don't even bother replying to this post.
As someone who saw Man of Steel and also hates it, I feel like, in the end, the Nostalgia Critic was just attempting to see the other side while sticking to his belief that the movie is terrible. There's nothing wrong with that. I too can accept people liking Man of Steel for their own reasons.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on December 17, 2013, 10:14:25 PMHow exactly is the NC saying that he still thinks MOS is "terrible" at the end of the video a cop-out or taking the middle of the road?
I said what he did at the end of the video was a cop-out. By ending on a Far Longer "but I understand where you're coming from" bit, saving it for last, putting more of that "I'm Honest Doug" performance into it, and - again - there was nothing there to substantiate. Joe's points were crap. So, there was no reason to end on nearly 3 minutes of "for you, this is what this is." For him, DUH! That's the note he wanted to end on, so that's what the video was. It is a cop out. It's absolutely the worst kind of pandering. It's what someone does when he doesn't care if people were even listening to him in the first place. Trying to satisfy the status quo because he didn't care.
Quote from: Peanutbutter on December 17, 2013, 10:44:17 PM....So basically, because the Critic said he understood Joe's POV, as well as the people who loved the movie; it's a cop-out? Because YOU think it was terrible and no leeway should be given whatsoever?
I'll listen to any defenses of the film
with substance in them. Joe had nothing more than regurgitated "let's like anything that goes
BOOM! and
CRASH! Aren't explosions and fight scenes neat?!" Yes they are, but not when the movie in question is insulting the audience and reducing filmmaking to a level of depth comparable to a teardrop on a hardwood floor. Foldable Human / Folding Ideas was definitely right that superhero movies have sucked for a LONG time now (at least since Michael Bay rose to prominence). But I say
Man of Steel is proof that now they practically have an agenda. Just look at how many conservatives rushed to defend this pos before it was even released to audiences, when the critics were having their go at it.
Besides, this is Zack Snyder we're talking about. The guy who ripped all the socio-political meaning out of
Dawn of the Dead, removed the terror, the heart, the thought-provoking look at American consumerism, and turned it into a brainless action thriller with lightning fast "zombies." And then there's
Sucker Punch. For using Bjork in that film, the man is lucky he didn't get a hit taken out on him. BY ME!!
Quote from: Goldstar on December 17, 2013, 10:39:20 PMI thought that Lupa and Linkara's Alpha's Magical Christmas review was pretty funny, myself. I never knew that this "special" even existed until I saw the review last year. Who thought that Alpha and a bunch of kids hanging out in the Command Center while singing Xmas carols with obviously dubbed singing voices for half an hour was a good idea? Made even cheesier by the excuse that the Power Rangers were off "helping Santa". ("That's mighty morphin bull poo! They just didn't want to pay the actors for another day of shooting!")
Some of the lines were funny. But the energy was practically non-existent and the performances were over 90% ham. And not the good kind, like Linkara as - what was it - Sassy Grandma (or whatever) in Phelous & Lupa's abominable crossover for
The Time Machine I Found at a Yard Sale (or whatever that "movie" was called).
As I said, crossovers usually suck. Incredibly hard. The few that really worked (if my memory serves) were Lupa and Cinema Snob on
Sherlock Holmes, Nostalgia Chick & Oancitizen on
Freddy Got Fingered (the golden standard of crossovers), Nostalgia Critic / Chick / Brental Floss on
Moulin Rouge (the golden standard of Nostalgia Critic videos), Critic / Chick on
Ferngully... and, I've yet to rewatch them, but I seem to remember Jesu Otaku and FilmBrain's crossover on
Sucker Punch fondly. And Oancitizen & Jesu Otaku on... whatever they reviewed. And Rap Critic did a couple which I saw but I don't remember them very well.
It's because Doug is sensible enough to know that, realistically, he can't change that many people's opinions no matter what stance he takes. People are a stubborn bunch in that way. People who aren't quite so sensitive to hearing out an opposing opinion (which is tragically a rarity to see) will listen to Doug's points and possibly find enough merit to them to change their minds to some degree, and those people would do so REGARDLESS of what Doug said at the end. If Doug just ended on a note saying that MOS is terrible and anyone who likes it is an idiot who should feel bad about themselves, not only would it be in extremely bad taste, but it would in fact not help in any possible way to get his point across. It would, however, more than likely get him a ton of nasty hate-mail from angry fanboys.
Yet, it still really does nothing for the fans of the film. Not only were Joe's points all superficial, but his jokes, attitude, everything was a rehash of The Fanboy Reviewer Formula.
Meanwhile, I want to make sure that the note I end on here is: Doug really was nailing the film before that "oh well, who cares" ending. (Too bad the whole thing wasn't boiled down to about 4 minutes rather than 40- because...it could have been.)
I never cared for NC and lindsay's Fenrgully review. While each of them have their own good lines, a lot of their shared bits came off as forced to me, especially the opening fight scene.
I much prefer NC's solo review for Ferngully 2 myself.
Quote from: Goldstar on December 17, 2013, 11:49:17 AM
Does anyone know what's been happening with Lindsay Ellis and Team NChick? None of them have released a review or anything in a couple of months. I know that Elisa Hansen married Paw Duggan (sp?) a little while ago, and they both did commentary over Paw's Music Movies review of Disney's Fantasia, but I heard anything about them since. I hope that nothing bad has happened.
She posted this on Facebook back in July:
QuoteAt this point I've gotten enough questions on the issue that I feel it warrants a response, so here goes:
I'm not dead. I'm sick. Without going into too much detail, an old ailment has flared up. It does this every few years or so, and this particular episode has been a rough one. I've been in treatment for a little while and I'm hopping from doctor to doctor trying to find the right cocktail to get my brain back in working order. It's nothing dramatic or out of the ordinary, and I may expound on it later and in more helpful detail, but for now we'll leave it at this; my machine is broken. It's in the shop right now. Don't confuse this for fishing for compliments or pity, but it's been a while since I've produced anything, and I feel I owe at least a simple explanation. This one is all I have to offer right now, for what that's worth.
Thanks for your patience and concern.
Yeah, that explained her hiatus during that part of the year, but she came back, looking fine, in September-ish with a couple of videos.
QuoteAt this point I've gotten enough questions on the issue that I feel it warrants a response, so here goes:
I'm not dead. I'm sick. Without going into too much detail, an old ailment has flared up. It does this every few years or so, and this particular episode has been a rough one. I've been in treatment for a little while and I'm hopping from doctor to doctor trying to find the right cocktail to get my brain back in working order. It's nothing dramatic or out of the ordinary, and I may expound on it later and in more helpful detail, but for now we'll leave it at this; my machine is broken. It's in the shop right now. Don't confuse this for fishing for compliments or pity, but it's been a while since I've produced anything, and I feel I owe at least a simple explanation. This one is all I have to offer right now, for what that's worth.
Thanks for your patience and concern.
I remember that. That was in the summer, but Lindsay made a couple of videos in August and September, where she at least appeared to be OK. She doesn't seem to have made anything since then.
She's been busy because she landed a job with the Pokemon dubbers. She hasn't explicitly said it due to contractual reasons or something, but tweets saying that she's working for a localization company, plus pictures with Pokemon voice actors, combined with all the pictures she has on Twitter featuring Pokemon dolls makes it obvious.
Well, kudos to Lindsay if she got another job, although I'm guessing this means that she'll be doing internet videos much less often, if at all. It'll be a shame to see her go, especially since she's probably the main reason why anyone visits Chez Apocalypse, but I guess that she just lost the passion for what she was doing.
Quote from: Goldstar on December 19, 2013, 09:32:47 AM
Well, kudos to Lindsay if she got another job, although I'm guessing this means that she'll be doing internet videos much less often, if at all. It'll be a shame to see her go, especially since she's probably the main reason why anyone visits Chez Apocalypse, but I guess that she just lost the passion for what she was doing.
Or she's just really busy. Working in the entertainment business, especially in a studio like that is long and grueling work.
Uh, okay Doug. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/41742-disneycember-hocus-pocus)
So....all along Hocus Pocus was about discriminating against virgins?
Maybe I'm just too oblivious to this kind of stuff, but WTF?
In all honesty, yes, Max's virginity does come up a few times in the movie, in some points that it becomes distracting.
But there's more to the film then that. Max and his sister's relationship, their struggling after moving to a new town, and the witches. Those are the bread and butter of the movie.
Is Doug fucking high? Hocus Pocus is awesome. I didn't even remember the virgin thing, yet he seems so strangely focused on it. Eh, whatever, I think he missed the point completely. I was actually looking forward to this one because so many people consider the movie a classic, but yeah.
Yeah, I and apparently everyone thought Doug was overreacting. I mean they mention the whole virginity thing a few times, but it's really not much. And he talks about it like it's harmful to kids... Honestly, I watched that movie quite a few times and never even thought about it, probably because most kids don't even know what the word means. When you're a kid, you watch it for Halloween and witches and stuff like that.
He even went so far as to say not to show it to kids. First off, if there really was an anti-virgin message in the movie, it would go over just about any normal kid's head at an early age. However, even when I watched the movie as an adult, I just saw that virginity thing as a forgettable running gag that the movie had going on, and at no point did I get the idea that Disney was saying that virgins are losers (especially since the dude who's a virgin is the fucking hero of the movie). I can understand if Doug doesn't care for the movie itself, but to imply that the message of the movie is to put down virgins is ridiculous. It's just a fucking Haloween movie that's about a group of kids trying to stop some witches.
Agreed: Doug was more preoccupied with virginity than the film was. Disney's a big bully in school?? Does he forget that these things are actually written, oft-times by people who technically aren't copying Executive Notes.
He nailed the movie on one thing though: the witch trio weren't given much to work with. Their story was formula, they did nothing with their time onscreen except be goofy. Which can only take a movie so far. In this movie's case, not to the finish line. Or even halfway.
If Lindsay were reviewing this for the first time this year, I would really expect her to mention Death Becomes Her as a great comparison to prove where the acting and story did in fact carry the film as far as its cinematography, effects, and music.
Oh... and he skipped Pollyanna, Old Yeller, The Shaggy Dog, The Apple Dumpling Gang, Swiss Family Robinson, Escape to Witch Mountain, and The Absent-Minded Professor in favor of George of the Jungle and at least 3 movies he's already discussed at length before (Flight of the Navigator, Rocketeer, Return to Oz- none of which made a bigger impact upon the company or its fans than the previously mentioned).
I was excited when this started. Only to realize the last thing worth getting excited about was Honey, I Blew Up the Kid. Posted half-way through the month.
Fail, Mr. Walker. Fail.
He skipped Old Yeller? That's like....one of the most famous Disney movies of all time. It's like essential viewing for any kid growing up on this side of the planet. I'd definitely argue that it was a movie with more significance and impact than some of the other stuff that he's seen fit to cover in place of it.
Not to mention the Tim Curry Three Muskateers movie. I know for a fact that I saw this in theaters, but I don't remember a single damn thing about it.
Personally, if I was doing this, I'd probably stop with the Muppet Christmas Carol or possibly even the Black Hole and try to focus on the movies from Walt's time, with a handful of exceptions beyond.
This will probably be a big set, but here's what I'd tackle if I was Doug-
- Victory Through Air Power
- Song of the South
- So Dear to My Heart
- Treasure Island
- 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
- Davy Crockett
- Old Yeller +Savage Sam
- The Shaggy Dog +The Shaggy DA
- Third Man on the Mountain
- Pollyanna
- Swiss Family Robinson
- The Absent-Minded Professor +Son of Flubber
- The Parent Trap +Remake
- Babes in Toyland
- That Darn Cat! +remake
- The Love Bug +sequels
- Bedknobs and Broomsticks
- Escape to Witch Mountain +Return to Witch Mountain
- The Apple Dumpling Gang +Return of the Apple Dumpling Gang
- Dr, Syn, Alias the Scarecrow
- Freaky Friday +remake
- Pete's Dragon
- The Black Hole
- TRON +TRON: Legacy
- Something Wicked This Way Comes
- Never Cry Wolf
- Honey, I Shrunk the Kids +Honey, I Blew Up the Kids
- Newsies
- The Mighty Ducks (yeah, might as well skip the sequels)
- The Muppet Christmas Carol
I skipped the ones Doug talked about plenty before, including Mary Poppins, and tried to stick mostly to the most popular and important ones with a clear stopping point in mind. The crazy thing? there's a lot of good ones I skipped over.
I would've done The Incredible Journey for sure if it was on DVD. Bootlegs for Song of the South are way easier to find.
I can't say "if I were Doug," but if I had a show somewhat similar to Nostalgia Critic (but erred away from stuff like Man of Steel and Les Miserables and was a better "critic" in general), my list would be more like:
(SPOILERS below)
1a. introduction + The Reluctant Dragon
1b. Song of the South
1c. So Dear to My Heart
2a. Treasure Island
2b. Swiss Family Robinson (I know this a/b split isn't chronologically accurate but it's a better system to fit more movies in by theme or stature) (This would be repeated on other days as you'll see)
3. 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea
4. Davy Crockett, King of the Wild Frontier (and sequel in same video)
5. Old Yeller (and sequel in same video)
6a. The Shaggy Dog (and remake in same video)
6b. The Shaggy D.A. (this monstrosity unquestionably needs its own video)
7a. Darby O'Gill and the Little People
7b. The Gnome-Mobile
8. Pollyanna
9. The Absent-Minded Professor (and sequel in same video)
10a. The Sign of Zorro
10b. Babes in Toyland
11a. The Parent Trap
11b. The Parent Trap remake (I can't believe Doug forgot to mention It Takes Two, by the way; even though it's not a Disney movie, the Olsen twins did their own remake of TPT 3 years before)
12a. The Three Lives of Thomasina
12b. The Cat from Outer Space
13. Mary Poppins
14. That Darn Cat! (and remake in same video)
15a. The Love Bug
15b. sequels / remakes to The Love Bug
16. Bedknobs & Broomsticks
17a. Escape to Witch Mountain
17b. Return from Witch Mountain
18. The Apple Dumpling Gang (and sequel in same video)
19. Freaky Friday (and remake in same video)
20. Pete's Dragon
21a. The Black Hole
21b. The Devil and Max Devlin (Well-known? No. Worth talking about? Hooooooo-boy, is it ever.)
22a. The Watcher in the Woods
22b. Something Wicked This Way Comes
23. Tron (and sequel in same video)
24a. Return to Oz
24b. Hocus Pocus
25a. One Magic Christmas (...Have you guys seen this one? Mary Steenburgen's husband is MURDERED, then the killer kidnaps her 2 children, steals her car, and drives them off a bridge!!!)
25b. The Santa Clause (and sequels in same video)
26a. Honey, I Shrunk the Kids
26b. Honey, I Blew Up the Baby & Honey, We Shrunk Ourselves
27a. The Rocketeer, Newsies, Who Framed Roger Rabbit, Oscar, and Dick Tracy in same video (one of these just has to include some Touchstone flicks, on my show- they would)
27b. White Fang (and sequel in same video)
28a. The Mighty Ducks (and sequels in same video)
28b. Cool Runnings
28c. Heavyweights
28d. Angels in the Outfield (and sequel in same video)
28e. Air Bud franchise (the hate... the hate...)
29a. 101 (& 102) Dalmatians
29b. [the Muppet movies- beginning with Christmas Carol, of course]
30a. George of the Jungle
30b. The Straight Story
31a. The Princess Diaries (and sequel)
31b. Enchanted
31c. outro
This one. oh man. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/41794-the-worst-christmas-special-ever)
It was a pretty humorous review. And then the bitch suddenly gets struck by lightning and Doug's subsequent "gghhOLY SHIT!!!" made me fucking lose it. That was incredible.
That was one of his best reviews in a while. Seems like he put a lot of effort into it.
But as far as "worst holiday specials" go, I have a feeling Phealous could top that. He seems to pick the absolute worst films out of anyone on that site.
That was awkward: Doug flashed pictures of The Salvation Army over narration that included the words "love and respect for everyone in the world." Uh... except for their proud declaring that gay people should die. It was kind of a big thing this year, Doug. In fact, this was written just yesterday:
http://www.gazettenet.com/home/9955886-95/john-davis-says-salvation-army-does-discriminate-against-gays
Bad form, Mr. Walker.
So, TGWTG is trying out a new guy called Thug Notes. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/try-outs/41835-the-crucible)
I've watched the whole archive and found it enjoyable. What do you guys think?
Quote from: No-Personality on December 28, 2013, 02:08:23 AM
Bad form, Mr. Walker.
I thought that was a little stupid as well, considering the Salvation Army's stance on gays have been well known for over a few years. I heard they do decline services to you if they know your gay and do discriminate if you go looking for a job with them. Hmm... does kind of make me wonder since a store I worked at used to have a SA guy outside, but like last year, they stopped coming over there. Makes me think about it.
Quote from: No-Personality on December 28, 2013, 02:08:23 AM
That was awkward: Doug flashed pictures of The Salvation Army over narration that included the words "love and respect for everyone in the world." Uh... except for their proud declaring that gay people should die. It was kind of a big thing this year, Doug. In fact, this was written just yesterday:
http://www.gazettenet.com/home/9955886-95/john-davis-says-salvation-army-does-discriminate-against-gays
Bad form, Mr. Walker.
Wow, he really did that?
Man, Doug just needs to sit down and get his facts right for once in his life.
There was this one Salvation Army guy who breakdanced at Faneuil Hall. He seemed cool.
Good thing I only shop at Goodwill...
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on December 28, 2013, 09:34:55 AMThere was this one Salvation Army guy who breakdanced at Faneuil Hall. He seemed cool.
Oh, there's definitely been some backtracking and hopeful bad press hedging going on over there. Official spokespeople even tried to claim that only one "rogue" member was responsible for making the statements.
Meanwhile, stories continue to surface about just how deep their homophobia lies and they've gotten too numerous and long-running to deny at this point.
Except articles cite the claim as indeed coming from one specific member. (http://www.thewire.com/global/2012/06/salvation-army-official-gays-deserve-death/53885/) And according to this other article, they've improving while apologizing for these faults. (http://sdgln.com/commentary/2013/12/23/setting-record-straight-salvation-army#sthash.y2bHECTU.dpbs)
Doug ends Disneycember with Saving Mr. Banks. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/41873-disneycember-saving-mr-banks) And personally, I loved the "Let's Go Fly a Kite" sequence.
Also, this ends with Doug hinting at doing more of these in January which he forgot about earlier, showing off one in particular. I sure hope so.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on December 31, 2013, 11:31:23 AMExcept articles cite the claim as indeed coming from one specific member. (http://www.thewire.com/global/2012/06/salvation-army-official-gays-deserve-death/53885/) And according to this other article, they've improving while apologizing for these faults. (http://sdgln.com/commentary/2013/12/23/setting-record-straight-salvation-army#sthash.y2bHECTU.dpbs)
Again, I want to repost my previous link. This is important stuff to remember: http://www.gazettenet.com/home/9955886-95/john-davis-says-salvation-army-does-discriminate-against-gays This article makes it clear that Very Recently and Very Much Wherever They Can, they use any legal loophole to deny help to GLBT people and especially to deny them employment. And, for the sake of their name and reputation, all they technically have to do is tell people they love them. They don't have to prove it, if and where the law is lenient on discrimination.
Maybe they're working on the problem- trying to clear out the older members who are bitterly hateful in order to fix bad policies. Yes, they deserve the benefit of the doubt for trying. But this is going to take time and a lot of work reaching out to people if They Decide to Continue Defining Their Organization by Their Religious Beliefs. I'm not going to smile and walk away fully satisfied that they've changed their ways just because they make a page on their website and a video on YouTube. I reserve every right to not entirely trust them now.
But, hey- let's hope they do change. One fact I know I can promise you is that with all the enemies GLBT people already have in this world, We Do Not Need to Invent Any More.
Nicholas Cage month is here! (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nc-face-off-6716183)
And it starts with the loss of Rachel, sadly.
No! She was hot! :shit:
Heads up- there's a final goodbye to Rachel at the end of the video.
Good luck to Rachel.
And Cinema Snob had better at least have a cameo soon.
Todd's 10 worst of 2013 is up. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/the-top-ten-worst-hit-songs-of-2013-6717249)
So far, I give him points for adding in FOB.
After that, I would love to hear the top of 2013 list... Or least awful.
Have to give him props for one thing: No Miley. But, the only songs I've heard that he referenced are "Royals" (just once) and "Hard Out Here."
I hadn't heard a majority of the songs he listed, but man, what is with the country this last year or so? Every one of those songs in that portion of that video I have heard multiple times, and every one is a contender for the worst lyrics ever written. Whatever happened to the country music where they sang about their dog and their tractor(ok, there was that big green tractor song not too long ago)? "Cruise" literally sounds like Hinder decided to try their hands at writing a country tune.
Didn't see the video, but I do still love Royals... in a semi ironic way that kind of acknowledges it might actually not be good. :P
Royals is a cool song. So is Stay The Night.
fuckyouguysimgoinghome
Quote from: Comeau on January 12, 2014, 06:29:23 PM
Royals is a cool song. So is Stay The Night.
fuckyouguysimgoinghome
"Stay the Night" is Hayley Williams, right? I do like that song. I also like her "Still Into You", though admittedly I feel like I am starting to get a bit tired of it.
By the way, is "Wake Me Up" on that list? I used to like that song, but it's on the radio fifty times per minute so I can no longer stand it.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on January 12, 2014, 06:38:35 PM
Quote from: Comeau on January 12, 2014, 06:29:23 PM
Royals is a cool song. So is Stay The Night.
fuckyouguysimgoinghome
"Stay the Night" is Hayley Williams, right? I do like that song. I also like her "Still Into You", though admittedly I feel like I am starting to get a bit tired of it.
Yes, and I like Hayley Williams. "Still Into You" is so great because it's so upbeat, it's like "Girls Just Want To Have Fun". We need more upbeat songs like that.
Watch yourself, talon. Do you even watch Todd, though? :P
And Florida-Georgia Line are... bizarre. Every single thing I've heard from them is completely bullshit, but they have a strange amount of respect in the country industry and somehow are already huge arena sellers. I had an equivalent for them from the rock industry, but I forgot which it was ages ago.
Quote from: Comeau on January 12, 2014, 06:40:40 PM
Yes, and I like Hayley Williams. "Still Into You" is so great because it's so upbeat, it's like "Girls Just Want To Have Fun". We need more upbeat songs like that.
My only problem with "Still Into You" (aside from having heard it too much, but even that issue is starting to vanish for me as I haven't heard it in a few weeks now) is a high note in the last section of the song. I never felt like she really hits it. Whenever I hear that part, I recognize it as the type of moment that someone like Kelly Clarkson would knock out of the park.
Quote from: Avaitor on January 12, 2014, 07:13:53 PM
Watch yourself, talon. Do you even watch Todd, though? :P
I watch very few things on TGWTG. That should explain why I haven't watched this video yet. :P
Also, since it's currently being discussed on gaf, what do you guys think about the similarities of "Roar" and this song? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUQsqBqxoR4) It's really uncanny(especially when both songs came out within months of each other), the song plays in some commercial and every time I see it I think of Roar.
Yeeeees. I fucking hate that Fall Out Boy song. Dumb title. Dumb song.
Good, god, that Drake song is a monotone mess. What a bore.
Can't agree on "Demons". ID didn't squander their promise Todd. The song's on the same god damn album. Glad he addressed that though. XD And I still like the song.
"Demons"? Are we talking Imagine Dragons? That song is phenomenal. Imagine Dragons is one of my favorite current rock bands, and that's my favorite song of theirs.
Nah, that song sucks.
Quote from: Comeau on January 12, 2014, 07:49:49 PM
Nah, that song sucks.
^ This is what we call a "bad opinion". :humhumhum:
Truth, with crazy opinions!
Quote from: talonmalon333 on January 12, 2014, 07:26:11 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on January 12, 2014, 07:13:53 PM
Watch yourself, talon. Do you even watch Todd, though? :P
I watch very few things on TGWTG. That should explain why I haven't watched this video yet. :P
You really should change this.
Quote from: Comeau on January 12, 2014, 07:29:32 PM
Also, since it's currently being discussed on gaf, what do you guys think about the similarities of "Roar" and this song? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUQsqBqxoR4) It's really uncanny(especially when both songs came out within months of each other), the song plays in some commercial and every time I see it I think of Roar.
It is pretty similar, but I don't think it's a rip-off, per say. All I know is that I'm really sick of the fun. guy, who wrote this.
Quote from: Avaitor on January 12, 2014, 08:30:34 PM
Quote from: talonmalon333 on January 12, 2014, 07:26:11 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on January 12, 2014, 07:13:53 PM
Watch yourself, talon. Do you even watch Todd, though? :P
I watch very few things on TGWTG. That should explain why I haven't watched this video yet. :P
You really should change this.
What series' do you like on the site?
Quote from: talonmalon333 on January 12, 2014, 08:31:53 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on January 12, 2014, 08:30:34 PM
Quote from: talonmalon333 on January 12, 2014, 07:26:11 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on January 12, 2014, 07:13:53 PM
Watch yourself, talon. Do you even watch Todd, though? :P
I watch very few things on TGWTG. That should explain why I haven't watched this video yet. :P
You really should change this.
What series' do you like on the site?
Besides Doug, I watch Lindsay and Todd mostly regularly, and occasionally Linkara, Oanicitizen and Cinema Snob (I'm here mroe for 80's Dan than his usual stuff though). I gave up on JO ages ago and not much else really interests me.
I probably watch Doug's Nostalgia Critic videos the most, but I also like Lindsey. I feel that, in certain ways, she outclasses Doug by miles (mostly when it comes to film in general, she's much better at things like analysis). I also like Phealous, particularly his Resident Evil videos. I heard some good things about JO. Why'd you abandon her?
Quote from: talonmalon333 on January 12, 2014, 08:41:29 PM
I heard some good things about JO. Why'd you abandon her?
She stopped making videos that interested me. That's pretty much it.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on January 12, 2014, 08:41:29 PMI heard some good things about JO. Why'd you abandon her?
She took a major nosedive in quality after D2 Brigade broke up. She rarely makes videos anymore, and when she does release a new one, it's not worth the wait. Instead of anime reviews, she would do something like Top 20 Anime Themes of [insert year], which I feel are the worst videos she makes on her channel (and she does that EVERY YEAR), or she would do a Let's Play or release con footage or do a Furuba reading or just do something else that is uninteresting.
The Anime Derbies are the only thing I'm desperately trying to hang onto (it's currently the closest thing to what she does best), but she clearly can't maintain a schedule on those. She hasn't released one of those since September.
And she's been a nonce on Twitter, by going off on tangents about how something sucks, and sicking her followers on people who disagree with her. I remember that time a few months ago where she accused TGWTG fans of publicly attacking her via fanfic, while guys like Linkara had to do damage control.
^Daikun and Marquis got my dissatisfaction of JO as of late down better than I could.
I can't remember the last time I watched a video of hers.
And doesn't help she's dating the Phil Fish of the anime industry.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on January 12, 2014, 09:24:41 PM
And doesn't help she's dating the Phil Fish of the anime industry.
Don't forget she actually writes for the same website as her BF. Even then... I still can't agree with her views. I haven't even seen Wolf Children yet, but there's something about her review that feels a little.... off.
I really do like most of JOs earlier stuff, when she did actual reviews, but I can't stand anything that she has done from the past couple of years. Her Anime Derbie videos don't interest me in the slightest, and in general she has completely moved away from the things that made her videos appealing in the first place.
Also, Wolf Children is an excellent film. To call it Hosoda's weakest movie is rather ridiculous, especially considering that his original films are, IMO, miles ahead of the franchise films that he did (Digimon and One Piece), what with not having nearly as many constraints as he did with making those movies and having to adhere somewhat to established series canons.
Quote from: Comeau on January 12, 2014, 05:27:28 PMman, what is with the country this last year or so? Every one of those songs in that portion of that video I have heard multiple times, and every one is a contender for the worst lyrics ever written.
I'm hardwired to say it's a conservative, assholian, kneejerk reaction to Obama's 2nd term, gay marriage spreading through at least an extra 8 or so states from 2012, and yet another year of controversy over potential future marijuana legalization, affordable health care, and at least one anti-contraception bill.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on January 12, 2014, 08:31:53 PMQuote from: Avaitor on January 12, 2014, 08:30:34 PMQuote from: talonmalon333 on January 12, 2014, 07:26:11 PMI watch very few things on TGWTG. That should explain why I haven't watched this video yet. :P
You really should change this.
What series' do you like on the site?
I know you weren't talking to me, but, 2 words: Diamanda. Hagan. She mainly reviews exploitation movies, a lot like Cinema Snob, but unlike him- she's basically completely honest and no bullshit about her opinions. Even though they're still filtered through expertly written jokes. As well as an extraordinary wealth of background international world history. She's the perfect combo of Cinema Snob and Oancitizen. With one slight flaw- her topics for review can be flat-out impossible to watch the actual clips of. And I'm not merely talking about the ultra-violent movies like
Ilsa, She Wolf of the S.S. She reviewed a trilogy of shot-on-video rape-themed movies and before Blip actually took one of them down, I saw them all and it was damn near impossible to finish them because you do wonder why anyone would ever want to review them. But, she's back to top form- reviewing stuff you can actually sit through.
I love Phelous too, but I mostly only watch his horror reviews because he never picks a really good movie. The only time I genuinely disagreed with him was on
Jack Frost (yes,
this Jack Frost (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JYwcmJQQ6jQ)). Which I do like. And, to a lesser degree, the 1980 version of
The Boogeyman (he had a loooong stretch of those reviews).
I loved Todd's video. Aside from some of the runners-up, I don't agree with 8 or 4 but I can understand why he picked them. I like Fall Out Boy and "Light Em Up", but the "My Songs" part is silly and dumb. Other than that it isn't bad. It's a great upbeat rock song.
As for JO, I only watched a handful of her stuff. I liked her Retrospective on Digimon which she sadly hasn't finished as far I know. Have no idea what stuff specifically on Twitter she's done. I know she's with Nash, so who is Phil Fish and why the comparison?
Quote from: Peanutbutter on January 13, 2014, 07:17:42 AMI know she's with Nash, so who is Phil Fish and why the comparison?
Phil Fish is a former game developer with a huge ego. He created
Fez and made some controversial comments (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-03-07-fez-creator-phil-fish-declares-modern-japanese-games-just-suck) about Japanese video games. Then he got in some Twitter e-drama with a game journalist and cancelled
Fez 2.I'm not sure why they're comparing Nash with him, though. :??: Did JO dump him and now she's dating someone else? I don't keep up with the Twitter stuff.
JO broke up with Nash, and now she's apparently going out with ANN's Zac Berschy.
God, stop trying to talk for other people, Doug. (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nc-when-is-something-so-bad-it-s-good-6717654) This is why these usually don't work.
I mainly watch TGWTG for Doug, Linkara, Phelous, Lupa, CR!, Blockbuster Buster and Todd. I sometimes watch Rap Critic, but I don't follow the rap scene that closely so it's usually only when he's tackling something which I've heard of, and even then I will usually only possess scant knowledge of it. I sometimes watch Paw, but just Music Movies. I used to watch Lindsay, but the gaps between her videos have gotten so long that I've kind of lost interest.
Quote from: Avaitor on January 14, 2014, 04:13:41 PM
God, stop trying to talk for other people, Doug. (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nc-when-is-something-so-bad-it-s-good-6717654) This is why these usually don't work.
He made several great points. I don't see the problem.
Quote from: Peanutbutter on January 14, 2014, 05:40:01 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on January 14, 2014, 04:13:41 PM
God, stop trying to talk for other people, Doug. (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nc-when-is-something-so-bad-it-s-good-6717654) This is why these usually don't work.
He made several great points. I don't see the problem.
My problem with his editorials or reviews in general is that Doug always seems to talk for every single person, as if his points are true for everybody. I'd like them a lot better if he used another pronoun besides "we" in every other paragraph.
Can't say I agree, Avaitor. In fact, my problem with this video is the opposite. Everything he says here should just go without saying.
I think, with some exceptions, his Editorials have been great and better than his regular reviews. I also find them to be the exception to my "Doug can't tackle serious topics" complaint.
I don't hate Doug's editorials, but they're pretty hit or miss for me. I actually do think that he has good points in this one, but I guess I'm alone in being annoyed with his pronoun trouble.
I do think his pronoun usage can get annoying, but I think for the most part he was accurate in this video. At the same time though, I don't think he had anything to say that we didn't already know.
Heads up- Todd's going to have to replace the Taylor Swift bumper music from his Top 10 Worst of 2013 video. There's no real word as to why, from him or anyone, but it will be different if you watch it in the near future.
Diamanda's next review is going to be another
Emanuelle... Consequently, this is me:
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-IFHYizIqXeE%2FUthcPdPHiiI%2FAAAAAAAAAvo%2Foouy-y6U-QM%2Fs320%2FSoExcitedCatSinger.png&hash=3eaa9506e643af3997eae6a8f17c1cfdecf15b20)
Quote from: Avaitor on January 16, 2014, 10:37:51 AMHeads up- Todd's going to have to replace the Taylor Swift bumper music from his Top 10 Worst of 2013 video. There's no real word as to why, from him or anyone, but it will be different if you watch it in the near future.
Do you follow him on Twitter or something?
Frankly: unless he told you / his followers this, I would assume he's trying to fix the video because there were a number of audio glitches in it. Did you notice? One moment, his vocal track dropped to almost inaudible and there were some other problems. Especially in the first few minutes.
Quote from: Silverstar on January 14, 2014, 05:20:10 PMI mainly watch TGWTG for Doug, Linkara, Phelous, Lupa, CR!, Blockbuster Buster and Todd.
Is CR the Familiar Faces guy? He's got a few great videos- especially the one on
Care Bears' Cold Heart. Which is hilarious, see it now.
Quote from: Silverstar on January 14, 2014, 05:20:10 PMI sometimes watch Rap Critic, but I don't follow the rap scene that closely so it's usually only when he's tackling something which I've heard of, and even then I will usually only possess scant knowledge of it.
I'm shocked that he gave mainly negative / nitpicky reviews of Ice Cube's "It Was a Good Day" and Dr. Dre and Snoop (Doggy) Dogg's "Nuthin' but a G Thang."
Quote from: No-Personality on January 16, 2014, 04:27:43 PM
Quote from: Silverstar on January 14, 2014, 05:20:10 PMI sometimes watch Rap Critic, but I don't follow the rap scene that closely so it's usually only when he's tackling something which I've heard of, and even then I will usually only possess scant knowledge of it.
I'm shocked that he gave mainly negative / nitpicky reviews of Ice Cube's "It Was a Good Day" and Dr. Dre and Snoop (Doggy) Dogg's "Nuthin' but a G Thang."
:shit:
Quote from: No-Personality on January 16, 2014, 04:27:43 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on January 16, 2014, 10:37:51 AMHeads up- Todd's going to have to replace the Taylor Swift bumper music from his Top 10 Worst of 2013 video. There's no real word as to why, from him or anyone, but it will be different if you watch it in the near future.
Do you follow him on Twitter or something?
Frankly: unless he told you / his followers this, I would assume he's trying to fix the video because there were a number of audio glitches in it. Did you notice? One moment, his vocal track dropped to almost inaudible and there were some other problems. Especially in the first few minutes.
I do, and he did address this around the time the video came out. I hope that he will fix these issues as well.
Apparently Blip won't allow Todd to use licensed songs for his bumpers on lists anymore, so when his 10 best of 2013 comes out, he's going to have to use generic music like what he replaced the T Swift song with, and the same will go for future lists. Every other usage of music in his videos should be fine since that falls under review. And idk if the same will happen to Doug or whoever else will need bumper music for their videos.
Quote from: No-PersonalityIs CR the Familiar Faces guy? He's got a few great videos- especially the one on Care Bears' Cold Heart. Which is hilarious, see it now.
Yeah, that's him. He's seriously underrated IMO, but he does good stuff. CR's one of my favorite reviewers on TGWTG because he primarily tackles cartoons. If I had an online show like that, I'd like to do stuff like Familiar Faces. My show would be a cross between Familiar Faces and Isle of Rangoon, mainly cartoon stuff and short film riffs.
Quote from: Avaitor on January 16, 2014, 08:23:24 PMApparently Blip won't allow Todd to use licensed songs for his bumpers on lists anymore, so when his 10 best of 2013 comes out, he's going to have to use generic music like what he replaced the T Swift song with, and the same will go for future lists. Every other usage of music in his videos should be fine since that falls under review. And idk if the same will happen to Doug or whoever else will need bumper music for their videos.
Did you hear that Blip has now partnered with Maker Studios?
Maker Studios is officially suck-attached to YouTube's cock, so it's possible that they are the ones behind this- Evil 1 or Evil 2. Last month they even fully stopped allowing anyone else to sign up for Blip. They have to sign up for Maker. And Maker makes it very clear whenever they can that: We Are YouTube's Dancing Chimp. This, of course, is more than generally distressing since there likely isn't another site with any umbrella offering videomakers complete freedom to use videos and music wherever they deem worthy. Which remains nothing short of ironic considering that people like Todd are never going to be millionaires. They are not abusing copyright laws in the slightest, the use of bumper music is always satirical and relevant to the topic of the video itself. Etc.
Stupid damn world we're livin' in.
Dammit, and I was getting closer to working on my video series that I wanted to post on Blip, as well.
More on Maker. Take a look at their bullshit website too: http://www.makerstudios.com/programming
"
Maker programming is organized into four networks. Learn about some of our featured shows below - Men / Women / Family / Entertainment."
Are we living in the fuckin' stone age? "Geek Culture" is listed under MEN, "Beauty" and "Fashion" and nothing but bone-headed braindead crap is listed under WOMEN, cartoons and "The Mom's View" (I see what you did there, you transparent smears!) is under FAMILY, and ... ah, what am I (shy?): Token Black, Middle-Eastern, and Asian guys "talk about music" in ENTERTAINMENT.
To say this is the most offensive thing I have seen Since I Don't Know is the biggest understatement I've made since... I Don't Know. This officially sets back any kind of social progress anyone has tried to make through the internet in over the last 15 years. Blip must have been freakin' hurting. Badly. Because whether or not what's going on with Todd is in fact because of Maker and a sign of things to come, this can only lead to bad things.
Quote from: Avaitor on January 16, 2014, 09:39:22 PMDammit, and I was getting closer to working on my video series that I wanted to post on Blip, as well.
Are you serious?
Quote from: No-Personality on January 16, 2014, 09:31:07 PMDid you hear that Blip has now partnered with Maker Studios?
Partnered? It's more than that. They're the parent company. (http://allthingsd.com/20130906/maker-studios-finishes-buying-blip-and-looks-for-new-pile-of-money)
Quote from: No-Personality on January 16, 2014, 09:45:32 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on January 16, 2014, 09:39:22 PMDammit, and I was getting closer to working on my video series that I wanted to post on Blip, as well.
Are you serious?
Well, I have outlines set up, as well as a rough draft for a script of my first video, but I'm missing the right equipment, which shouldn't be hard for me to obtain.
But it seems like I probably shouldn't bother anymore.
Quote from: Avaitor on January 16, 2014, 09:47:27 PMQuote from: No-Personality on January 16, 2014, 09:45:32 PMQuote from: Avaitor on January 16, 2014, 09:39:22 PMDammit, and I was getting closer to working on my video series that I wanted to post on Blip, as well.
Are you serious?
Well, I have outlines set up, as well as a rough draft for a script of my first video, but I'm missing the right equipment, which shouldn't be hard for me to obtain.
But it seems like I probably shouldn't bother anymore.
I also was thinking of signing up for Blip. But their policy officially changed in the fall so that all "new talent" had to be prescreened and specifically accepted (which is definitely not the same policy they had back in March when I really started thinking about doing this) and... in the meantime, they literally kinda FIRED YourMovieSucksdotOrg- who has an extremely popular YouTube channel where he uploads reviews and posts videos regularly talking about his incredible battles with YouTube copyright policy and the studios themselves. In front of almost all his reviews- he includes a short kind of Fuck You shoutout to LionsGate, Warner, and whatever studio is currently giving him shit introduction with a big smiley face and distorted music. Then he did a couple videos talking about Blip telling him he was about to have all his content removed with a message: "we've reviewed your channel and decided you're just not the right fit- may we suggest YouTube or Vimeo." Of course, anyone's free to hike over to Vimeo but... I don't believe they've heard of monetization. They simply offer you a deal to pay them for more space to load videos into their database. ...
Swell, right?... ::)
Quote from: Daikun on January 16, 2014, 09:46:23 PMQuote from: No-Personality on January 16, 2014, 09:31:07 PMDid you hear that Blip has now partnered with Maker Studios?
Partnered? It's more than that. They're the parent company. (http://allthingsd.com/20130906/maker-studios-finishes-buying-blip-and-looks-for-new-pile-of-money)
Oh- so that was just Blip's word: "we've partnered" as in, don't panic. But...do, really. Because one way or another, things are going to change. And not for the better.
Quote from: No-Personality on January 16, 2014, 10:05:24 PMOf course, anyone's free to hike over to Vimeo but... I don't believe they've heard of monetization. They simply offer you a deal to pay them for more space to load videos into their database. ...Swell, right?... ::)
Of course they wouldn't recommend you to Dailymotion, where you CAN get ad revenue. ;)
I've tried uploading there- they give you exactly the same hassle as YouTube over copyrighted material. In my experience.
I made this video (https://vimeo.com/51363146) about Uncle Buck (which is not even close to what I would upload to Blip- I just wanted people to see my interpretation of the film) and both YouTube and DailyMotion said: you've got to be kidding. You know this is copyrighted. We're not showing it. Forget about it. BlockedBlockedBlocked.
Of course, had I uploaded a real review of the movie ala- ThatGuywiththeGlasses, they would have said the same thing.
Lindsay's back, again! (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/team-nchick/nostalgia-chick/41996-worst-of-2013) And she has a good excuse for her absence this time.
I had a feeling her reason would be something like that. Good for her, too!
Nice video as usual.
I would not have chosen to see any of the movies she mentioned, so... I'm glad I avoided them.
A number of those choices she didn't bother laying out what was wrong with them and why they didn't work. Granted it's the first time she's done a video in a while and she apparently got a job as an editor for some show. But there was still too much phoning it in within that video.
Quote from: Peanutbutter on January 17, 2014, 03:32:29 PMthere was still too much phoning it in within that video.
Agreed.
I actually don't think her heart is in Nostalgia Chick anymore. I think it's been gone since the first
Addams Family movie review- which I think is the best work she did the entire year.
I suppose I could be wrong and that time will tell. Someone on her Thatguywiththeglasses board said they knew she was working on new content and had some real plans. I hope so.
She did seem a bit not herself in that video. She didn't seem as relaxed to me.
She should still be on for a little while- a year or two ago, she, Doug, and Todd all signed long-term contracts for Blip. But who knows.
Nicholas Cage month continues with Wicker Man (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/42029-wicker-man).
As someone who loves the original Wicker Man, that is one of the most unbelievably bad remakes ever.
Well, Lindsay finally revealed (on Twitter) why she hated Wreck-It Ralph so much, after Matthew Buck (Film Brain) prodded her about it. She said that "Disney didn't have the nards to make the titular bad guy actually bad", and she found the character of Vanellope so annoying the she nearly walked out of the theater, but Todd wouldn't let her.
Wow. To each their own, but I can't agree with her on that. I loved Wreck-It Ralph. It was one of the few Disney films in recent memory that I genuinely enjoyed and couldn't wait to buy on DVD, and I'm not the biggest Disney fan there is. Regarding her first complaint, I think she came in with the wrong expectations; she was expecting something like Megamind, and I don't think that was ever the intention. Ralph's situation was more like a mid-life crisis/being stuck in an unrewarding job kind of deal. Ralph and the other video game villains were just doing their jobs, playing roles, they didn't define themselves by the roles they played in their games, that was made clear during the Bad-Anon scene. Regarding Vanellope, I can understand why and how some people would find her annoying, but she didn't bug me that much if at all, certainly not to the point where I couldn't stand to sit through the rest of the movie. I know Team Snob didn't like the film either because there was so much focus on the character voiced by Sarah Silverman, a performer they openly despise. Myself, I didn't mind Vanellope, but I will concede that her character was the only real thing Silverman has done outside of stand-up that I really enjoyed.
Back to the Wicker Man review: I admit that I never saw this film, but it looks bat-shit insane. I wish Tamara the best of luck replacing Rachel, and I liked the cameo by Cinema Snob and Spoony at the end.
Yeah, I can't agree with her on Ralph either.
I don't get that, she wanted Ralph to actually be a villain? Even in the context of the video game he isn't exactly a villain, merely an antagonist. It's like saying Donkey Kong should've been an actual villain and not turned into a protagonist.
Watched his Wicker Man review. I actually never even thought the bees moment was necessarily the best part of the film. Good as it is, those parts where he punches or kicks someone are too funny.
I hope Lindsay isn't going to be half-Vlogging her work all year. Her "Best of 2013" is up now and it's the same as the "Worst Of." And, disappointingly (profoundly so), she had Dallas Buyers' Club as #1 tied with 12 Years a Slave. DBC really is just an excuse to net more awards for straight guys playing gays - or like Macklemore, singing about being gay (though he himself is not) - not to mention trans people. Proving that we're making zero strides forward. Maybe we're even going backward, as a matter of fact. This is progress? Didn't we already have Brokeback Mountain, "Born This Way," Transamerica- which I'm not even arguing were great successes. But they were Hollywood congratulating themselves for being accepting of gays so gays never have to do any of that pesky rising for themselves, speaking for themselves thing. I'm sorry but I see typically more revolutionary work on Facebook with people forwarding all those why George Takei, Ellen, Neil Patrick Harris, and that guy from Big Bang Theory are so awesome. Which, again, isn't much. I don't see any gay or lesbian Mackelmore's or Lordes's becoming major players in music. Or how about just one movie about gay people made by a gay filmmaker? Or even making a movie about something relevant now: Russia, Nigeria, gay marriage in the U.S., etc. This Representation-by-Proxy thing is getting old. Real old.
Anyway, I suppose the rest of her list was alright. I checked out Brad's this morning too- no surprises what made #1 there. Here's a hint: it's about a porno star. Also, at least one of Lindsay's "Worst" movies made it onto his best list. Now I actually want to see it. Also... The Heat was a polarizer (from what I read). Yet it made Lindsay's Best list... hmmm.
I haven't seen Lindsay's list yet, but I did see Brad's, which was pretty cool.
And here's Kyle's! (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/oancitizen/miscellany-and-hodge-podge/41875-favorite-movies-of-2013)
Edit: If you care, Doug posted his top 10 films on Facebook.
10. Ender?s Game: Author?s a bigot ass, but I still find this story smart and empowering to kids. Loved it.
9. Saving Mr. Banks: Needed more false Meryl Streep Disney rumors, but still had surprisingly good performances from Hanks and Thompson. Love the focus on the creative process.
8. Gravity: More an ?experience? than a detailed narrative, but an affective one to say the least. Breathtaking in Imax and 3D.
7. This is The End: Funny as Hell for its characters, delivery, and last two minutes. Laughed my ass off.
6. World?s End: A fitting end to the Pegg/Frost/Wright trilogy, with surprisingly heavy themes done in the most ridiculous manner as usual. NOTE ? Everyone says Pegg at the beginning of the bar crawl is similar to me directing. I don?t know if that?s a good thing or a bad thing.
5. Hunger Games - Catching Fire: A surprisingly strong look at the power of celebrity despite a retread of the previous story. Very clever adaptation.
4. Don Jon: A love story you think is going to be clich?d and tired, but surprisingly calls ?bullshit? on the whole ?Love Actually? formula. Nice directing debut from Joseph Gordon Levitt (that little fucker is on fire).
3. The Heat: Funniest movie all year, period.
2. Frozen: Love the updates to the Animated Princess formula while still keeping the charm and enjoyable Disney artistry. Great characters, story, environment, and music (first film I?ve tapped my foot to in years).
1. Her: Spike Jones has yet to disappoint me, and this story about the evolution of technology is a perfect Rorschach test of a romance. Some may see it as quirky and touching, others as sad and creepy, for me: both. The tone is both uncomfortable and relaxing, even the constant close ups and Phoenix?s face seem to create the intimacy such a strange tale like this needs. I loved every moment of it.
And speaking of Doug, he's back with Disneycember (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/42049-disneycember-old-yeller-newsies-high-school-musical-3). What movies did he tackle this time? Old Yeller, Newsies, and of all fucking things, High School Musical 3.
I'm watching his HSM 3 video now, but I actually really like the other 2 vids. Newsies in particular, as I've always had an extreme hatred for this movie, and Doug has a great spin on how it doesn't work, in that it's shot more like a Broadway musical rather than a theatrical Broadway adaptation.
Quote from: Avaitor on January 23, 2014, 03:01:11 PMNewsies in particular, as I've always had an extreme hatred for this movie
What's there to
like?
As for Doug's list, it's not too pretentious. But
Saving Mr. Banks is the 2nd most overrated movie of 2013.
Quote from: No-Personality on January 23, 2014, 10:39:35 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on January 23, 2014, 03:01:11 PMNewsies in particular, as I've always had an extreme hatred for this movie
What's there to like?
Heh, good question. But I do think that the Broadway show probably does work better than the movie did.
What would you say is THE most overrated movie on 2013, if you don't mind my asking? Oh, or is it Dallas Buyers Club?
Also, I like how all of these lists came out at once, because I'm using them to help me figure out which films from last year I should rectify missing. A couple of the ones that are on instant watch are saved up on my queue (including Lovelace, which my mom actually put up not that long ago), but I particularly look for overlap between the lists. I'm still kind of picky though, as there's not a chance in hell that I'll watch Catching Fire.
I'm surprised that HSM would be a post-Disneycember request. I thought it would be better as an NC review.
Personally, I would've requested Homeward Bound or maybe The Black Hole.
If I could request for Doug to do 3 more movies, I'd probably go with Pollyanna, That Darn Cat!, and Something Wicked This Way Comes.
RIP Jew Wario. Suicide is never the answer.
That's awful. My heart goes out to his family and friends.
I read about this earlier, and jeez is it rough. I sincerely hope his wife and family are taking it as well as they can.
I feel sorry for his wife, considering she was near him when he died. I mean, being on the other side of the bathroom door..... I can't even begin to imagine what was going on during that time.
I never watched that many of his videos, but good god is that tragic. Especially since I have a family member that I'm close to who's going through depression, I can say that it must have been hell on his family, especially his wife. I hope that his family and close friends manage to hold up after this awful occurrence. And, it's always devastating to see great talent pass away, especially when it's at their own hands.
RIP, Jew Wario.
Finally watched NC's Wicker Man review. The ending (short of the cameos, which were excellent) ruined it but - before that - this was the best new Critic episode I've seen in awhile. I would never have had the fortitude to sit through that movie on my own. Knowing the new ending for the remake now... I think that is actually more sexist than the punching scenes. We all know this remake had no real point or artistic merit to speak of but now they might as well be pissing on anyone who might have defended them. I hope Burstyn was paid well for humiliating herself. (And if she didn't point out the Braveheart similarity herself to the filmmakers, I will never forgive her.)
Kind of shocking about JewWario. Because he had a real family and all. Although, honestly...: I'd always noticed there was something a little strange about him. At least, I call it strange- everyone calls what they see something different. I have to deal with suicidal thoughts every day (I have them every single day) and not having ANY money for medication or just to get myself checked out. I think that's what made me notice he might have had a problem or just been off somehow. I actually watched a few of his videos a few months ago, incredibly randomly (or maybe not randomly: Diamanda or Omega mentioned in their cooking videos that he had a new series and that we should check that out), and...just kind of spent the whole time thinking: there's something strange about him.
So, to me this isn't as shocking as I think it is to everyone else. I never suspected he would be "the one" to kill himself but it was inevitable considering how much pressure there is in the community and just how many people are extremely emotionally open about their lives that someone would kill themselves under fairly public circumstances. Not 2 weeks ago, I was watching a Pushing Up Roses Q&A where she talked about how many people say they need the uplifting that TGWTG's comedy brings them. And not in a general sense either. Like, it was just another bad day and I've been having a lot of them lately. Like: this is what makes me smile when I'm feeling really alone or hopeless about the world or that nothing ever changes.
But of course it's definitely sad. And should serve as a reminder to the rest of us who aren't suicidal that: there is really nothing you can do. Even on medication or with treatment, you will have this problem for the rest of your life. You were born with your body organized to run this way. Just like with alcoholism. It will never go away. It might as well be a disease (medical professionals claim it is not an actual disease). And suicide sure shouldn't be the answer but it's still a reality. There, in fact, is no "answer" (don't listen to anyone who tells you otherwise: you can beat the feeling of wanting to kill yourself but not what got you there in the first place, nor is there any proof that you can't revert back to suicidal feelings many times while on medication). People just cope as long as they can.
I've been hearing "suicide is never the answer" since Freshman year in high school (and that was over 15 years ago) yet, surprisingly enough, that never does anyone affected by this horrible thing any good whatsoever. By the way. I would love to see people for once become a little more understanding on just how impossible it is to live someone else's life. Yet everybody chooses to express themselves on this issue very much this way: we all go through bad things, you think life's easy for the rest of us? Yes, that is indeed what you sound like to me. Which I sincerely doubt was the intended sentiment. There is a very good reason it's considered rude to tell other people how they feel or what they should or shouldn't do as though they owe it to anyone else. They owe it to themselves.
I'd never even heard of JewWario until today, but my heart goes out to his family, his friends, and his memory. I can only hope his soul is at peace now.
Quote from: Foggle on January 25, 2014, 10:24:00 PMI'd never even heard of JewWario until today
He was the guy who played Jarred(?) the Goblin King / David Bowie's role in
Labyrinth in
Suburban Knights and was the guy with the Yellow Hat steering the ship on the toy steering wheel in
To Boldly Flee.
If you watched those TGwtG anniversary movie things.
He comes in at 2:24 - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8BA-psT9TO8
Our internet went down on Thursday afternoon and we couldn't get a technician to come over and restore it until this morning, so I only just heard about JewWario's passing. I've only seen a few of Justin's You Can Play This videos, but I saw all of his appearances in the Pokemon movie reviews with Suede and Linkara. I didn't know JewWario personally of course, but if he was truly battling any inner demons, he hid it well. He always seemed so together and in good spirits. I only ever got suicidal once, and thankfully I had people around me to support me and talk me out of it. I feel for his wife and family.
RIP, Justin Carmical.
It might be time to move away from talking about Justin. At least because Todd's 10 best of 2013 are up. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/the-top-ten-best-hit-songs-of-2013-6720576)
Apparently he edited this while drunk, so let's see how that goes.
And hey, Kyle's reading The Disaster Artist!
I of course missed all of the songs that made his Top 10 and I highly suspect "Royals" would make mine if I cared enough to look up the Top 100 songs of 2013 and buckled down and listened to all of them.
Nice to see Todd's using bumper music again (though, somewhat briefly / briefer than he usually uses). And the daring of him to use Icona Pop (whose label probably wouldn't be happy about that, let's imagine that trying to keep the RC's happy was why Todd was commanded to re-edit his Worst of '13 video) for the final thank-you screen. Though "I Love It" was a 2012 single. IP, of course, are the group behind my favorite song of 2013: "My Party." Though, that's just when I heard it. It's possible that was released in 2012 as well- there are 2 versions of it, one more recent. (I know, shut up about that song will you- no one else cares. Last you'll hear about it unless you actually clicked my link last week and want to say for yourself that you liked it or didn't.)
Miley's "We Can't Stop" and "Adore You" > One Direction's "Best Song Ever"
EDIT: Forgot about the Lady Gaga slot. No, I caught that one. And except that I don't think the pretentiousness was the actual problem, I agree with him on ArtPop. Which I probably mentioned on Facebook. That record was a catastrophe. I still like "Venus," "ArtPop," and "Aura," but "Do What U Want" wouldn't make my Top 10.
I also forgot about Rihanna's "What Now" - another personal choice for best of the year (I don't think Rihanna will ever make a Todd best list but he's usually wrong about her anyway). I was starting to give up on that woman, then in like early November- she did it. Gave the best song on her (now Grammy award winning?) most recent album (good for her, I think Unapologetic is her best album after 2009's Rated R) a real release. Video and all. (Bad video and all.) This is like justice, after I shouted for months that Gwen was supposed to release "U Started It" as a single from The Sweet Escape (2006). But Gwen went with "4 in the Morning" instead. Stupid choice.
"Treasure" would probably be my #2 as well, after "Heart Attack". Although "Locked Out of Heaven" would be #1 if it wasn't a 2012 leftover.
I can't really think beyond that. I agree with Todd that "Thrift Shop">"Royals", but I can honestly take or leave both. I was also way into "Suit and Tie" at first, but I got sick of it fairly fast.
Doug posted this tribute to Justin in lieu of an editorial. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/42100-in-loving-memory-of-justin-carmical)
I really liked this Brad Jones/Cinema Snob vlog with his mother and (ex? wife) Jillian on Fast Times at Ridgemont High:
http://blip.tv/the-cinema-snob/midnight-screenings-fast-times-at-ridgemont-high-6719831
in which they talk a lot about VHS, what movies were nostalgic to them, and other things that I found extremely entertaining. Much moreso than just any new movie they might have seen.
I just watched Linkara's last Marville review. Wow, those look like terrible comics, and each of his reviews were great. :D
So last night, I saw Doug's video telling his thoughts on Desolation of Smaug. He seemed to find it funny how, when he went to see the movie, he realized that there are hardly any showings for it anymore. Not sure why, considering the movie has been out for a while. But that's a minor note. What I really want to address is when he had this to say, regarding the scenes of Bilbo talking to Smaug...
"You really get sick of those parts."
That usage of "you, once again, shows Doug's weak vocabulary and is bad because it makes it sound like he's trying to talk for everyone. From what I gather, he's pretty much alone on that opinion, anyway. I found the exchanges between Bilbo and Smaug to be the best parts of the film, and I know many people agree with that, essentially seeing him as what Gollum was to the previous movie. Really, Smaug was such a cool dragon in every way, maybe one of the best I've seen in any movie. I don't see how you can be bored whenever he's on the screen. From the booming voice carrying the great dialogue, to that perfect CGI that honestly looks like a practical effect while capturing the huge size of him.
Still, the important part is Doug's vocabulary.
Anyway, for some reason, I had a feeling he wouldn't like this movie very much. I really don't even know why I did. It was just this strange hunch. I still think it was much better than the first movie.
I don't know why, but I've been thinking a lot about Doug's "vocabulary" as well over only the past 4 or so months. Or, more specifically, during the NC Editorials I bothered to watch. Listening to him talk seriously, asking questions like he does, in serious mode, feels an awful lot like watching a teenager do the same thing. A lot of his sentence structures and the way he speaks feel more than a little immature and/or naive. He sounds like he's basically turning the clock back in terms of maturity. The more serious he tries to get, the more awkward he sounds and the more high school-ish.
I think he really needs his humor, to help cover a lot of this up.
I haven't disagreed this much with Doug since The Dark Knight Rises. He says that Smaug is more of a special effect than a character. Was he even listening to the dialogue? Smaug is both very clever and equally intimidating. He also gives Bilbo a lot of insight into why he hates the Dwarves so much, and particularly points out how Thorin is just using him in pursuit of his own greed. For something as cliche as a giant dragon that hordes treasure, Smaug actually has a surprising amount of character, when it probably would've just been easier to make him a big special effect and nothing more. Then again, considering that Doug couldn't even bother to remember ANY character's name outside of ones that were already in TLOTR trilogy, it's very telling of how little he pays attention to details.
Also Doug claims that the visuals are way too dark in the cave....first of all it's a cave, so it's kind of supposed to be dark, but he makes it sound like you can barely see anything, which is ridiculous. Some of the best visuals of the film (mainly how great Smaug animates) are in the cave.
I'd say that, after Gandalf and Legolas, Smaug was the best character in this movie.
EDIT: Also, I don't get how Doug is using the exact same criticisms people used against the first movie, on this one... while claiming they were there in the first movie but weren't a problem to him. Like, how does that even work?
Haven't watched it yet, but in this week's NC Doug takes on Ghost Rider (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/42171-ghost-rider).
Also, JO is back with, wait for it, an actual anime review! When was the last time she did one of those? Like with the new NC, I haven't watched it yet, but here's the first part of her Attack on Titan (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/ir/jo/jar/42174-attack-on-titan-part-1) review.
That was a good review. I think it's my favorite from Nicholas Cage month, but I liked each of his main reviews. :)
Oh, and Doug linked to this article (http://indie-outlook.com/2014/02/05/top-11-nostalgia-critic-reviews/) which posted a list of the author's favorite NC reviews. It's a pretty good one, all things considered.
Quote from: Avaitor on February 05, 2014, 02:24:42 PMDoug linked to this article (http://indie-outlook.com/2014/02/05/top-11-nostalgia-critic-reviews/) which posted a list of the author's favorite NC reviews. It's a pretty good one, all things considered.
Um... I had a
huge problem with Doug's most recent Commercials video. The commercials made in the last few years: they're not nostalgic. Which may fall in line with his "I don't need to review nostalgic stuff anymore" but... these are commercials. You can't mix the nostalgic with that red, white, and blue pancakes commercial that nearly turned me into a homicidal maniac.
For 2 reasons, clearly.
I don't really mind that he went with more modern commercials for the new video myself, although I can see why you do. Still, I'd probably go with one of his earlier commercials videos for my list.
If a pancake commercial pisses you off that much, there might be more problems with you than the video though.
Wow! Paw made a good episode (sorry if anyone else likes his series, Music Movies, but I find him... just not good, except on his Let's Plays with Pushing Up Roses):
http://blip.tv/pawdugan/music-movies-the-wizard-of-oz-6721729
He deserves all the props I can give on a well-written episode that makes you want to keep watching, though I think I generally disagree with him. One that the music score has any real flaws (other than how hard it is to discern what the Lion is singing during "If I Were King"). And I happen to rather like the Andrews Sisters (well, what little I've heard). Two that I think the film itself is actually a little too simplistic and at times laborious. That opinion changes during scenes, I might never feel the same way about a scene from one viewing to the next, but I don't think the film is perfect. The fact that it is nostalgic means as long as it's enjoyable, that's good enough.
Also, I particularly enjoyed this Lupa b-side on An American Werewolf in London:
http://blip.tv/OLPresents/that-almost-happened-an-american-werewolf-in-london-ii-6722438
Though I mention in the comments section that she was wrong about Rick Baker working on The Howling.
New Todd "One Hit Wonderland" episode:
http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/one-hit-wonderland-walking-in-memphis-by-marc-cohn-6723177
And... I've been thinking about this song, specifically, for well over a year now. The last 4 or 5 months, I even thought about Todd doing this specific episode. Of course, this is thanks to my doing all that 90's digging for my Top 999 Singles of the decade list but I only remembered the song thanks to Vh1's Pop-Up Videos. Which went on a bit about Cohn's winning the Grammy and then disappearing from any public attention. Yet it didn't strike me that this would be the main focus of Todd's analysis. (He also mentions the Natalie Cole duet with her father's voice song that won so much praise... I remembered that from the 90's; also thanks to Vh1.)
You know, I like the Bridge to Terabitha review, but one joke I don't get is Doug calling New Girl "filler after The Mindy Project". I know plenty of people who like New Girl, but the only people I know who watch TMP are people who are disappointed that the show isn't as funny as NG or Kaling's Office work. Not to mention that Mindy's on the bubble while New Girl is considered the highlight of the night for Fox.
I know plenty of people who like Big Bang Theory. Doesn't mean it's not Thursday filler.
Well in that case, isn't every show filler in our lives? Instead of watching The Wire or Game of Thrones or Black Mirror, we could be out living life, but nope.
Quote from: Avaitor on February 10, 2014, 05:48:21 PM
Well in that case, isn't every show filler in our lives? Instead of watching The Wire or Game of Thrones or Black Mirror, we could be out living life, but nope.
I mean, that's technically true. All recreational stuff
could be considered life filler. But isn't this more about TV shows that some people might consider unimportant and just made to fill time? Like Cops and everything on HGTV.
Quote from: Foggle on February 10, 2014, 07:26:34 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on February 10, 2014, 05:48:21 PM
Well in that case, isn't every show filler in our lives? Instead of watching The Wire or Game of Thrones or Black Mirror, we could be out living life, but nope.
I mean, that's technically true. All recreational stuff could be considered life filler. But isn't this more about TV shows that some people might consider unimportant and just made to fill time? Like Cops and everything on HGTV.
I guess. I was just saying before though, I don't think this particular joke works because I know people who go out of their way to watch New Girl (the AV Club calls it the best comedy on TV, of all things), but I don't think anyone does the same for The Mindy Project.
Quote from: Avaitor on February 10, 2014, 05:48:21 PMWell in that case, isn't every show filler in our lives? Instead of watching The Wire or Game of Thrones or Black Mirror, we could be out living life, but nope.
Agreed.
Cut off 2 heads from that hydra beast known as Diamanda's Dr. Who retrospective and... of course, another grows back the very next day. (She's up to Season 11 now.)
Saying that all shows are filler comes from the same logic that believes museums and stuff are pointless. It's emotionally sterile.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on February 10, 2014, 08:44:22 PM
Saying that all shows are filler comes from the same logic that believes museums and stuff are pointless. It's emotionally sterile.
Well what was your point from before?
Quote from: Avaitor on February 11, 2014, 07:21:55 AM
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on February 10, 2014, 08:44:22 PM
Saying that all shows are filler comes from the same logic that believes museums and stuff are pointless. It's emotionally sterile.
Well what was your point from before?
That I don't like New Girl. :sly:
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on February 11, 2014, 09:10:04 AM
Quote from: Avaitor on February 11, 2014, 07:21:55 AM
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on February 10, 2014, 08:44:22 PM
Saying that all shows are filler comes from the same logic that believes museums and stuff are pointless. It's emotionally sterile.
Well what was your point from before?
That I don't like New Girl. :sly:
Neither do I. Doesn't mean that no one else does.
But nobody likes The Mindy Project, which is my point.
Life is just filler until we're dead.
/morbidness
Now if we can stop being an asshole, new top 11. (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nc-top-11-strangest-yet-best-couples-6723961)
Good list. I'd personally find room for Barney and Robin, or even Marshall and Lily. Probably the former, since over the years, it really does feel that Robin has grown in love with everything about Barney, as impossible as it may seem.
Oh...
Muthafuckin'
HELLS YES:
http://blip.tv/the-cinema-snob/endless-love-by-the-cinema-snob-6723860
This is one I've personally been waiting for. Since I saw the movie. Last year. Which, with other movies, wouldn't be so long. This one... a whole other story.
So, having seen The Graduate a few days ago, I watched Doug's Editorial where he talks about the movie's ending. When I learned that there is apparently debate on the meaning of the ending, I was legitimately surprised. I just thought "Really?". The intent of the ending seems pretty clear to me. If they wanted to leave open the possibility that this couple could go on to live a happy life together, they would have handled that completely differently. It wouldn't have shown them sitting on the bus and visibly losing their initial excitement. And if they wanted to imply that there's a chance this could end well for them, I think the couple would have had more chemistry. Benjamin saying "Let's get married" came absolutely out of nowhere.
But anyway, good video. I'm glad Doug made a point of saying the actions of their parents aren't necessarily right. Can't ignore the fact that there is really no way you can excuse Mrs. Robinson's actions. But yeah, Elaine is doomed.
I just can't imagine how some people can look at the movie as creating a good future for them.
I got my Emanuelle:
http://blip.tv/diamanda-hagan-lecher-bitch/05-06-emanuelle-in-america-sd-6724135
And it was glorious. ;D
Speaking of Diamanda... I never go to Twitter... but... she just announced...
https://www.facebook.com/DiamandaHagan/posts/692076620857394
SHE AND RANTASMO (of Lindsay's Chez Apocalypse crew) ARE DOING A Vegas in Space CROSSOVER!! A movie I actually own a copy of!
I don't care how bad Diamanda crossovers usually are, this one will be an exception... it just will!
Also, Diamanda announced she's doing a Myra Breckinridge crossover with Cinema Snob... something I will also check out.
And, since I'm not a big Carpenter fan I think it's worth mentioning, Lupa did a neat little "why is this a cult movie" reaction vid on They Live that at least gets the ball rolling on seeing that (in my opinion, hugely overrated) film in a different light:
http://blip.tv/OLPresents/a-short-look-at-they-live-6722075
Doug takes on the Ghost Dad. (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nc-ghost-dad-6725343)
Quote from: Avaitor on February 18, 2014, 01:24:32 PMDoug takes on the Ghost Dad. (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nc-ghost-dad-6725343)
That film and
Bingo are my top 2 "most wanted" Doug reviews!
I lost it at "Put the bitch on."
Geez Bill Cosby, what the hell was up with that movie?
Great review, btw.
Ehhh, disappointed. Way too much filler with unfunny skits that I didn't care about and Doug skipped into hysteria far too quickly. He did a much better job on Wicker Man. A comparatively more insane film where he built up to his unhinged bits a lot better. And much better incorporation of his actor friends. Until the end, which went on too long.
Meanwhile, Phelous & Lupa do a crossover (with Cinema Snob cameo bites) that's actually freaking hilarious for once. Until the incredibly bad (and bordering on severely homophobic) fart joke at the end. But, because - like with most of my life - I desperately want to hold my sanity together (instead of always having to realize how painfully pervasive homophobia is in society, that people I admire can be guilty of it and not notice it), I'll try as best I can to care less and still count this video as a recommendation (since before that last minute, it's still one of the funniest new videos from anyone on my follows list that I've seen in months). Birdemic 2:
http://blip.tv/phelous/birdemic-2-the-resurrection-6725612
Oh yeah, and it's padded as hell with repetitious, ultra-obnoxious meme type jokes. To the point where things get downright surreal... which made me laugh even harder.
Todd returns to Katy Perry/ (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/dark-horse-by-katy-perry-a-pop-song-review-6727988)
I have an interesting relationship with Katy Perry myself. I didn't like her first songs, then I ended up enjoying Last Friday Night and Firework, but I have fallen out of her again because her recent stuff is just boring or annoying.
Quote from: Peanutbutter on February 22, 2014, 05:38:16 PMI didn't like her first songs, then I ended up enjoying Last Friday Night and Firework
I don't get it- those songs are easily her blandest work, other than "Roar."
I actually kind of like Firework. It's an incredibly simple song, though. I think one of Katy Perry's biggest problems is that it seems like she writes the same song over and over.
And yeah, I'm not a fan of Roar, either. Doesn't help that they overplayed it on the radio, too.
If I have to pick two Katy Perry songs to stand, I'd have to go with "Teenage Dream" and "The One That Got Away". They're both sincere-sounding songs that don't reek of corporate too much, with the former in particular having strong production.
I like Hot n Cold, that's really it.
And I don't see how Roar is anymore played than Firework was a couple years ago.
Doug posted this obituary on his FB. (http://www.legacy.com/obituaries/knoxnews/obituary.aspx?n=claire-bishop-milner&pid=169769299) She was the Harley Quinn cosplayer from his Casper review.
RIP
Quote from: Comeau on February 23, 2014, 02:04:41 PM
And I don't see how Roar is anymore played than Firework was a couple years ago.
Maybe that's just it for me. Roar is
currently overplayed more.
Katy Perry is better the fruitier she is. And I believe she was holding a watermelon on the "Hot N Cold" cover, so, 'nuff said. In general, I'm inclined to give her points for "Dark Horse" rather than take them away. That said, I haven't sat through the music video in full. Yet.
Anyway, a new Chick ep:
http://blip.tv/nostalgia-chick/nostalgia-chick-volcano-movies-dante-s-peak-vs-volcano-6733831
I was very worried at the start of the video (and more than a little "c'mon: more disaster movies?", this is literally the 5th video she's done on them not including vlogs) but, it quickly won me over. This is the best material she's put out since the first Addams Family movie review. I hesitate to say she's finally back but... she's definitely getting there.
Oh dang, I keep on forgetting new Chick!
But Todd has another One Hit Wonder here. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/one-hit-wonderland-how-bizarre-by-omc-6739790) I actually have had this song in my head for a while, so it's a good call for a video.
And one of the first times he resoundingly answered "yes" after "Did They Deserve Better?" Good ep, good cameo.
Lupa has another Baywatch ep... not her best work, but still worth checking out:
http://blip.tv/OLPresents/baywatching-message-in-a-bottle-6729735
Finally got my Vegas in Space review... don't know what else I could ask for:
http://blip.tv/diamanda-hagan-lecher-bitch/special-review-vegas-in-space-6736557
But the crown jewel of recent videos, Kyle on The Cook, The Thief, His Wife, & Her Lover:
http://blip.tv/brows-held-high/brows-held-high-the-cook-the-thief-his-wife-her-lover-6739177
^ Watch that one!
Imma watch the latter two after I'm done with this ep of NewsRadio.
Quote from: No-Personality on February 28, 2014, 08:40:53 PM
And one of the first times he resoundingly answered "yes" after "Did They Deserve Better?" Good ep, good cameo.
Well, not really THE first- he said the same for a-Ha, his very first OHW.
I said "one of." 8-)
Ha, true. Fair enough.
Those were good Hagan and Oanicitizen reviews, btw. I like how less "classy" Kyle's food choices become as the video goes along.
Don't watch if you haven't seen Frozen yet. (http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nc-are-you-sick-of-let-it-go-6743034)
I am totally sick of "Let It Go." It's a good song, but goddamn is everyone so obsessed with it and it's been so overplayed and parodied that it's like ear poison to me now. Same with "Do You Want To Build A Snowman."
At least Idina Menzel gave a good performance of Let it Go........................
I've been trying to avoid listening to the Frozen soundtrack again before the Blu-Ray comes out, and I've succeeded for the past month or so. Although I did catch Idina's performance at the Oscars, which wasn't great, tbh.
I actually heard that she had an asthma attack before going on stage, which is why it came so off, and why they cut the second verse. I can't help but wonder if they should have got Demi instead, or had them both do a duet, actually.
Quote from: Avaitor on March 04, 2014, 10:13:36 PM
Although I did catch Idina's performance at the Oscars, which wasn't great, tbh.
I actually heard that she had an asthma attack before going on stage, which is why it came so off, and why they cut the second verse. I can't help but wonder if they should have got Demi instead, or had them both do a duet, actually.
Of course it wasn't great, hence my dots. Idina Menzel sounded bad. A lot of theater people came rushing to her aid immediately, of course, blaming other things (the orchestra, etc.) that have nothing to do with her pitch.
I haven't her sing live as much as I would like. Mostly I've just heard her in recordings of stuff such as Wicked. And she sounds phenomenal there. But you really can't gauge a person's singing by a recording, of course. But she's better than she was the other night. So maybe it was indeed an asthma attack or something.
But.... I liked Everything is Awesome, if only for the part where the Lonely Island boys came in and sang their part. :P But yeah, I can see how seeing parody/cover after parody/cover can get annoying real fast. I still like the song, though just imagine if Let it Go was actually on most current pop radio stations. But then again, my favorite songs in Frozen is a tie between For the First Time in Forever & In Summer, my least favorite as far as story goes, was Fixer-Upper. Not a bad song, but I just felt like it was meant for another movie, also. fuck those stupid ass trolls!
Yeah, "Fixer Upper" sucks. That's the easiest one to avoid, really.
I still haven't heard the song.
Lindsay or Kyle played it in their Best of 2013 videos but you could barely hear it over their voices.
Unless you choose to surround yourself with it on YouTube or fan art on DeviantArt, I fail to see how any song from Frozen can be "overplayed" or "everywhere". It's only everywhere if you're making it so.
Quote from: Peanutbutter on March 05, 2014, 04:02:29 PM
Unless you choose to surround yourself with it on YouTube or fan art on DeviantArt, I fail to see how any song from Frozen can be "overplayed" or "everywhere". It's only everywhere if you're making it so.
Actually, yeah, I agree with this. Frozen is a phenomenon, but like other recent phenomenons like Avengers, Avatar and The Dark Knight, even though they're still present (although honestly, who still cares about Avatar when you take it away from the theaters?), they're not as present as they were at their heights, and if you're not interested, they're surprisingly easy to avoid.
Personally, I like seeing Disney have as big of a hit as they do with Frozen. Even Tangled was nothing compared to this.
Quote from: Avaitor on March 05, 2014, 04:20:35 PM
Quote from: Peanutbutter on March 05, 2014, 04:02:29 PM
Unless you choose to surround yourself with it on YouTube or fan art on DeviantArt, I fail to see how any song from Frozen can be "overplayed" or "everywhere". It's only everywhere if you're making it so.
Actually, yeah, I agree with this. Frozen is a phenomenon, but like other recent phenomenons like Avengers, Avatar and The Dark Knight, even though they're still present (although honestly, who still cares about Avatar when you take it away from the theaters?), they're not as present as they were at their heights, and if you're not interested, they're surprisingly easy to avoid.
Personally, I like seeing Disney have as big of a hit as they do with Frozen. Even Tangled was nothing compared to this.
I'm gonna go with this.
Also, it's sad to here Idina had an asthma attack when she did. I would have loved to see a full performance.
Doug posted this on his Facebook.
QuoteA lot of people are wondering if I truly am sick of 'Let it Go' like in the Nostalgia Critic video. Truth be told, I AM one of those obnoxious people who will play this song over and over again. In fact, one of the memes in the video about Elsa freezing the Midwest is mine from Facebook. As a comedian, I have to make fun of the fact that it is overplayed like Hell, it's just too funny not to address. But as a fan, I much rather have that overplayed than anything by Rebecca Black. So as the NC, I'm sick to death of it, but as myself, I say let the storm rage on!
I was wondering if he was going to do this one. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/42567-alice-in-wonderland)
I'm watching the review now, but this really is one of the worst movies I've seen.
Old news now, pretty much, but Todd and Lupa had new ones come out this week. I don't know anything about Jason DeRulo, so instead of watching Todd's new episode- I'm going back and watching a bunch of older episodes I either don't remember or have never seen. Now I know why he's such a big deal. Not just because his good videos are that good, but he did a lot of great videos on songs and artists I've never heard before. I think Todd is now one of my favorite series. Lupa did another new Baywatch episode and, if you haven't seen the first 3 or so- start there. And maybe skip the last two. This side series really was funny at the start. Now she puts in way too many CLOSE UP jokes. Zooming in on the actors' faces every 10 seconds. It's pretty annoying. But, at least see the first 2. They're hilarious.
Lindsay's newest video is another glorified vlog, but Mara's there, and Nella, and it's about junk food:
http://blip.tv/nostalgia-chick/nostalgia-chick-nostalgic-foods-of-yore-feat-mara-wilson-6762008
I can't agree with the overall consensus on the Handisnacks. That cheese is frickin' delicious. I want to disagree with them on Fruit Rollups... but I'll bet the company changed the recipe. I lived and died for those things as a kid. A slight problem might be that you get the feeling they never eat this kind of thing. And they could include more details about the taste. I think even Phelous and Lupa include more details about how their foods taste in their Let's Try videos.
I can't believe I watched Diamanda (& Co.)'s entire vlog of the 300 sequel last night. I am not a history buff, I am extremely ignorant about the history of war. And every nation in the world, including my own. They spend almost 25 minutes, maybe more, on that and my head spun the whole time. But then they shifted over into LGBT history and I woke up again. Robin is bi and Sarah seems to be gay, so watching them all talk about this was pretty interesting. (And, I've been on her Facebook page, Diamanda's real name is Xaria.) I almost always love their vlogs (Sarah's usually not in them) and if you love history, this is jam-packed full of details.
And, just like that, Diamanda has a new review - looks like a good one (she goes into a little side-thing about VHS and I was born in 1982, so...):
http://blip.tv/diamanda-hagan-lecher-bitch/05-07-siege-sd-6764484
Doug has another cameo, in the Hagan News Network segment (where this character of his seems to live).
I'm gonna watch Lindsay's vid now.
I did see the Todd video, but I forgot to link it here. I knew Jason DeRulo's "Whatcha Say", a big part of which from his review. He also did a duet with Demi on her last album, which kinda sucks too. But wow, did Todd do a great video.
I made food but I watched Diamanda's instead of Lindsay's (I have a habit of rewatching new Lindsay videos at least twice in the first few days they come out). Pretty great to be able to sing along with the song she chose for the end credits: "Wargasm" by L7, which I still have memorized.
Quote from: No-Personality on March 13, 2014, 11:35:11 AMLindsay's newest video is another glorified vlog, but Mara's there, and Nella, and it's about junk food:
http://blip.tv/nostalgia-chick/nostalgia-chick-nostalgic-foods-of-yore-feat-mara-wilson-6762008
I disagree with their stance on Pop-Tarts. They CAN be enjoyable, but only under two conditions:
1) It needs to have the frosting. No frosting = Bland.
2)
FUCKING TOAST 'EM!
2 words:
Spring Breakers (http://blip.tv/brows-held-high/brows-held-high-spring-breakers-6766335)
Another Wish List item can now be crossed off. ;D
3 guesses as to who's reviewed it (and the first 2 don't count).
Watching it now.
As petty as it sounds, I really hope Kyle doesn't like it.
"Spring Break, Spring Break, Spring Breakers is not worth your time"
The caption for the video kinda spoils that he doesn't, doesn't it. :D
That was a good review, heh.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again- Lars von Trier>>>Harmony Korine
Everything in the film is disgusting. So, I truly don't see how someone could have had a fantasy like that.
Meanwhile, if we believe it is a fantasy, Kyle just called the man a racist.
Quote from: Avaitor on March 14, 2014, 03:29:10 PM
That was a good review, heh.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again- Lars von Trier>>>Harmony Korine
That's like saying the Black Death is better than small pox.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on March 14, 2014, 06:28:43 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on March 14, 2014, 03:29:10 PM
That was a good review, heh.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again- Lars von Trier>>>Harmony Korine
That's like saying the Black Death is better than small pox.
Pretty much, but at least one of them has some scope of talent behind him.
Doug talk about Ghostbusters for a bit. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/42649-top-11-moments-you-never-noticed-in-ghosbusters)
And stick around for the credits.
I guess Diamanda is the closest thing to a Troma reviewer on the site, while Lupa and Phelous seem to split the majority of Full Moon flicks. Full Moon, by the way, can sometimes be Troma-for-wimps. Anyway, Phelous's newest is definitely him at top form:
http://blip.tv/phelous/gingerdead-man-2-6777505
The film is actually pretty interesting if you know any of the history behind FM or Troma. It's clearly an amalgam of Troma's Terror Firmer and Poultrygeist with Full Moon's The Dead Hate the Living. And the director's name (Silvia St. Croix) kind of reeks of one of David DeCoteau's aliases. Especially since there are so many ultra-beefy guys in the cast. Most of whom's shirts are open a bit. John Buechler has a cameo - he directed Troll and Friday the 13th Part VII as well as did FX on Re-Animator and Nightmare on Elm Street 4 - as well as Michelle Bauer, who is unrecognizable in Phelous's clips. Meanwhile, I can't lie: it's kind of cute that he doesn't have a clue who she is... She was only one of the major 80's direct-to-video scream queens. And she has a habit of popping up in DeCoteau's flicks. Like, still. Over 25 years after she first worked with him.
And, Lupa did yet another Baywatching. This time, with only maybe 1 closeup joke. Good.
Okay, what are the odds you guys? After just talking about David DeCoteau in my last post, guess what? Nostalgia Critic just reviewed a David DeCoteau film. Oh yes, it happened.
In crossover form. With Lupa:
http://blip.tv/OLPresents/olp-a-talking-cat-6778216
Todd reviews "Pompeii" by Bastille. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/testing-testing-testing-testing-6781672)
"I don't know what this song's about."
The title, Todd. Look at the title. Anyway, I love the song, but I'm mixed on Bastille. I think the first three songs off of the debut album are 10/10s, but the rest of the album is kind of samey and boring.
Been watching Todd videos for the last hour now, trying to find ones I've never seen before ("Cruise (Remix)," "Moves Like Jagger," "5 o'Clock," "Black and Yellow," his hilarious episode on "If I Die Young," and his awesome video on "Suit & Tie vs Thrift Shop") and, of course, I dusted off "Pompeii" first. Anyway, really wanted to mention that his video on "Accidental Racist" was the worst thing I've seen from him. What a terrible idea, right from the start. Though I agree they both had one good point between them, there was no point for the argument or insinuation that either of them (Todd or RapCritic) as characters are racist themselves.
Anyway, I just HAVE to recommend some other videos.
If you haven't seen Brad's video on Caddyshack II, it's easily one of his best. His Endless Love review let me down. This made up for it. So much:
http://blip.tv/the-cinema-snob/caddyshack-ii-by-the-cinema-snob-6761019
And, she's not on the site anymore but I don't care. Pushing Up Roses has adopted an essay review style which also, surprisingly, doesn't usually suit her. She doesn't make the same mistakes as Doug. She's just not good at analyzing things or any fun in Reporter format. However, she does work in this format when she has a good topic. And she recently picked a couple great ones.
It's pretty hilarious that she released this video the day after I watched Dee Snider and Frank Zappa in the PMRC congressional music censorship thing (and 2 whole episodes of Oprah with that twat, Tipper Gore, on as a guest), but this one is a short list on her top games victimized by worldwide censorship or banning:
http://blip.tv/pushinguproses/banning-and-censorship-in-gaming-6778730
This next one I have to put up a YouTube link to because Roses splits her output, some reviews go on YouTube and some go on Blip. But this was one of the most interesting and funny videos I've seen in awhile, her Top 6 Evil Chickens in Gaming:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LLIi03_FWZs
Quote from: Avaitor on March 22, 2014, 11:09:53 PM
Todd reviews "Pompeii" by Bastille. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/testing-testing-testing-testing-6781672)
Glad he likes it. I love it because of how different it sounds, and the "Background Monks" as Todd calls them gives the song a pleasant international like feel to it. It reminds me of Return to Innocence by Enigma. And man, did Todd ever blow my mind when he summed up what the song was really about at the end. Very good review.
NC's latest review is The Disney Afternoon. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/42715-disney-afternoon)
How appropriate, considering Disney just acquired Blip. (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/25/business/media/disney-buys-maker-studios-video-supplier-for-youtube.html)
Yeah, Brad's Caddyshack II review was excellent. I actually saw this movie on cable years ago, and I couldn't believe how breath-takingly bad it was. I should have figured that Jackie Mason's Artoonian character was really just a last-minute stand-in for Al Czervik after Rodney Dangerfield backed out. Why were we supposed to cheer on Bushwood getting remade into a tacky public golf course? Like Brad pointed out, if Artoonian was so rich, he could've just started his own country club.
Also, Lupa just reviewed A Talking Cat?!! with guest star the Nostalgia Critic. It was pretty funny, and the movie must have had a budget of about 10 bucks. I'm going to catch Doug's Disney Afternoon review after I get off work.
Yeah, I mentioned the Lupa/Critic review last week but, truth be told, I think it's noteworthy more for the giant coincidence that it coincided with the director's cameo in the movie Phelous just reviewed- Gingerdead Man 2.
Kyle's new video has cameos from PushingUpRoses (who, Look At That, I was just talking about a few days ago) and SomeJerkwithaCamera - now Avaitor will know who he is when he sees him cameo in other people's vids. ;D
http://blip.tv/brows-held-high/brows-held-high-tiny-furniture-6787983
(My future-predicting powers are getting too much for me to handle.)
Dang, I was hoping if the Critic ever did something on the Disney Afternoon that he'd do a whole month of it. Granted, he did Duck Tales before but the rest deserve their own episodes. I'm sure it's good though, I'll watch when I'm done browsing.
Uh, Doug, Eddie Valiant was a private investigator, not a cop. There is a difference. :P
I found it kind of weird how a few years ago he had issues talking in too much depth about Aah! Real Monsters and Hey Arnold because they came out around the time he was growing out of cartoons, yet in this episode he has no problem talking about shows like Aladdin, Timon and Pumbaa, Quack Pack, and The Mighty Ducks even though they were on TV at roughly the same time.
Also as an aside, Eek! The Cat came before Schnookums and Meat, unlike what he suggests when he says the creator of S&M later went on to create Eek!
Quote from: Peanutbutter on March 25, 2014, 06:24:58 PM
Dang, I was hoping if the Critic ever did something on the Disney Afternoon that he'd do a whole month of it. Granted, he did Duck Tales before but the rest deserve their own episodes. I'm sure it's good though, I'll watch when I'm done browsing.
He also did Gargoyles a long time ago (although, IMO he didn't do it nearly enough justice).
I still don't regret skipping Schnookums and Meat for my Disney Afternoon retrospective.
I felt the same way about it that the friends in the video did, namely that I don't recall ever really watching it. I remember it being on during the early days of Toon Disney, but aside from recognizing it I don't have much experience with it. It must not have caught on the way Disney had hoped.
Quote from: Comeau on March 25, 2014, 06:48:54 PM
I felt the same way about it that the friends in the video did, namely that I don't recall ever really watching it. I remember it being on during the early days of Toon Disney, but aside from recognizing it I don't have much experience with it. It must not have caught on the way Disney had hoped.
I don't see how you not having watched it means it didn't catch on. It most certainly did. There were plenty of toys and lunchboxes that every kid had. Heck, I actually used to have a Rescue Rangers lunch box myself.
I was a little too young back then, but was Schnookums and Meat really that popular?
I don't remember these supposed toys circa 1995. Every kid, really? I remember Power Rangers toys, I remember Rugrats toys, I remember Toy Story toys, but I don't remember Schnookums and Meat toys.
I can't even find much merchandise for the show, save cans of Franco-American pasta.
Quote from: Avaitor on March 25, 2014, 07:48:29 PMI was a little too young back then, but was Schnookums and Meat really that popular?
Not even close. I've only ever seen promos for it, and even then, it looked pretty bad.
It's the easiest of the TDA shows to erase from your memory. It was already overshadowed by the popularity of
Ren & Stimpy (and Nickelodeon in general), and TDA was crashing and burning by then, so no one watched it.
Yeah, I always held the belief that Timon & Pumbaa was a far more popular Ren & Stimpy-esq show for Disney, and even that is mostly because they were very popular characters to begin with. But people do remember that show.
Quote from: Comeau on March 25, 2014, 07:54:04 PM
I don't remember these supposed toys circa 1995. Every kid, really? I remember Power Rangers toys, I remember Rugrats toys, I remember Toy Story toys, but I don't remember Schnookums and Meat toys.
Thought you were referring to the Disney Afternoon as a whole.
I rank a Disney Animation show's popularity on how much Rule 34 it has. Timon & Pumbaa porn is a thriving market.
So that makes Rescue Rangers the most popular, right?
Depends if it outweighs the amount of GoofyXMax yaoi I can find.
Well, not so much Rule 34, but where there are obsessives... (http://www.odditycentral.com/news/russian-cult-worships-female-cartoon-character.html)
Can we please not go off topic into Rule 34 garbage? :whuh:
At any rate, I have to say this one was an instant classic. All of the skits were hilarious, and a lot of the jokes and gags were good too. Doug was really on fire in this one.
it was a good review. I don't agree with everything Doug had to say (mainly that Max was bland and that Bonkers was a bad show. Also, I like Timon & Pumbaa less than he does. Oh, and Rescue Rangers was not the last good Disney Afternoon-related game. Darkwing and Goof Trip, hello!), but most of the jokes worked, and he got some good info in here as well.
Also
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/405c7994141bf81fdea708137c00bbb3/tumblr_n30ivwANUK1s46koto3_500.gif)
He really meant the Irritate Gamer, right? I can't be the only one who thought this.
That was a fun one. I found myself agreeing with most of his assertions, though I have more mixed feelings on Rescue Rangers than he does, myself.
Yeah, it's no secret that of the earlier TDA shows, I find Rescue Rangers the hardest one to watch. Although the episode Doug highlighted is easily the best IMO.
Saw Doug's review, somewhat reluctantly given how absurdly 2-3 pages the discussion here has been, and I actually remember that Cola Cult episode of Rescue Rangers. Of course, I don't remember it very well since I haven't seen it in over 20 years (and aren't some of you not even that old yet?), but holy shit was that a bit of a "I REMEMBER THAT!" moment. He of course lost me around the time of Bonkers. I literally had no idea that show existed until Doug mentioned it years ago. Or was that MarzGurl? Someone on TGwtG talked about it. Never seen an episode of Gargoyles. By that time, I think I had fully switched over to Fox! Kids and was watching... whatever else they showed before Power Rangers. (For better or worse.) So, this whole thing was only nostalgic for the first 25 or so minutes. Whenever he stopped talking about Goof Troop.
Anyway, some real heavy-hitters to talk about.
Maven of the Eventide is back. With a blast!:
http://blip.tv/mavenoftheeventide/vampire-reviews-monster-mash-6789456
She's had some darn good episodes but this might really in fact be her best. See it now, I'm telling you. It doesn't focus on the song but rather on the actual "mashing" of groups of classic monsters for plots in films like... well, she brings up several. I don't want to "spoil" which. Her research is fantastic and the coverage is very wide. (Though I mentioned on her Facebook page that she might have forgotten The Halloween That Almost Wasn't.)
Diamanda Hagan / Cinema Snob's Myra Breckenridge crossover is up now. It's definitely the best of both worlds (though the movie seems far more disturbing than I'd even heard it was- and, yes, it still stars Raquel Welch, John Huston, and Farrah Fawcett):
http://blip.tv/diamanda-hagan-lecher-bitch/special-review-myra-breckinridge-6793924
Nostalgia Chick's 6th or 7th (or maybe 8th at this point) video about disaster movies. You beat that dead horse, Lindsay:
http://blip.tv/nostalgia-chick/nostalgia-chick-the-day-after-tomorrow-6792829
It's actually pretty okay. She also did a vlog'gy kinda thing about those darn Y.A. adaptations. Another:
http://blip.tv/nostalgia-chick/divergent-and-the-ya-movies-of-2013-6787628
Ho boy. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/at4w/42795-avengers-200)
This issue is a doozy. I'm curious to see how Linkara tackles it.
Haven't watched Linkara in a while (I love his show, I just fell behind episodes and haven't caught back up to him yet), but YOWZA was that comic grotesque. His review of it was all right, but I couldn't laugh at any of his jokes other than the Scrubs clips because this comic sounded too horrible. This is partly why I still want to get back into his show; so that when I get around to starting my own comic collection I'll know exactly which ones to avoid.
Avengers Annual #10 is my favorite comic issue basically because it's an apology for this whole ordeal.
This week, Doug takes a look at what may be the worst animated movie OF ALL TIME! I'm talking, of course, about Foodfight. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/42895-foodfight)
I like how it starts off with a Batman Returns reference.
Things've been a bit dry for the peeps I follow. There was a new Lindsay 50 Shades of Green episode and a vlog on Game of Thrones... which I got about 90 seconds through before realizing it'll be too hard to understand what they're talking about. I have no dang idea what that show is. And I hate most historical dramas.
Though, Kyle did an excellent video on it. He mostly discussed its root-ties to literature and culture:
http://blip.tv/brows-held-high/between-the-lines-game-of-thrones-6803322
And, in case it wasn't mentioned here, an okay one on Tiny Furniture and mumblecore:
http://blip.tv/brows-held-high/brows-held-high-tiny-furniture-6787983
And, Brad did a Taco Bell eat-stuff video (I actually love food vlogs):
http://blip.tv/the-cinema-snob/brad-tries-taco-bell-breakfast-6790981
And a fun video on a gimmicky Casper spinoff:
http://blip.tv/the-cinema-snob/dvd-r-hell-casper-and-the-angels-6788532
And, Lupa finally put an end to Charmed. I didn't die laughing like with some of her previous reviews but I did have a lot of fun watching her over 130-minute long review of it... that's season 8, exclusively. Guessing I'm the only one who would sit through something that long, though it went up in pieces.
I love people who generalize Game of Thrones as another historical drama or medieval fantasy without even watching an episode. They're like people who don't know how to dress themselves.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 09, 2014, 07:58:12 PM
I love people who generalize Game of Thrones as another historical drama or medieval fantasy without even watching an episode. They're like people who don't know how to dress themselves.
Who on TGWTG said that about GOT?
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on April 09, 2014, 08:25:50 PM
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 09, 2014, 07:58:12 PM
I love people who generalize Game of Thrones as another historical drama or medieval fantasy without even watching an episode. They're like people who don't know how to dress themselves.
Who on TGWTG said that about GOT?
The post above mine, silly-willy.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 09, 2014, 08:27:24 PM
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on April 09, 2014, 08:25:50 PM
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 09, 2014, 07:58:12 PM
I love people who generalize Game of Thrones as another historical drama or medieval fantasy without even watching an episode. They're like people who don't know how to dress themselves.
Who on TGWTG said that about GOT?
The post above mine, silly-willy.
And this is why I should follow my own advice to people and read before posting. :sweat:
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 09, 2014, 07:58:12 PMI love people who generalize Game of Thrones as another historical drama or medieval fantasy without even watching an episode. They're like people who don't know how to dress themselves.
Yeah, if I were about 5- that'd be a real burn. But you just come off like a child.
You don't like me, so you follow me around from post to post looking for ways to antagonize me. But you are not better than me, so step the hell off. Alright? I'm not to blame for whatever genius around here gave you a Mod position but this is not a game. I do not care what you think about me. Get over it. Find a new hobby.
Cute.
Get a life.
Simmer down, fellas.
Quote from: No-Personality on April 09, 2014, 07:43:20 PM
Things've been a bit dry for the peeps I follow. There was a new Lindsay 50 Shades of Green episode and a vlog on Game of Thrones... which I got about 90 seconds through before realizing it'll be too hard to understand what they're talking about. I have no dang idea what that show is. And I hate most historical dramas.
Well, when you say you have no idea what the show is, and then say you hate most historical dramas in the next sentence, you do end up looking a bit foolish.
It's not a historical drama, it's an (excellent) TV show based on series of (excellent) fantasy novels set in a fictional world with dragons, White Walkers, zombies, and so on.
Quote from: Cartoon X on April 08, 2014, 11:15:54 AM
This week, Doug takes a look at what may be the worst animated movie OF ALL TIME! I'm talking, of course, about Foodfight. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/42895-foodfight)
Good Lord was the animation absolutely atrocious. I couldn't sit through this one which sucks because the Critic was really hitting some bullseyes in this one.
This week Doug tries to look past the plethora of bad to instead list 11 good things about the Star Wars prequels! (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/42983-top-11-good-things-in-the-star-wars-prequels)
Having watched it, I can agree on Palpatine and Ewan McGregor's performance as Obi-Wan being some of the better aspects of the films, and he did mention a couple moments that were well done as well. But I don't think "Jar Jar having less of a role as the movies went on" should really count as a legitimate good thing since his very existence is a mistake in the first place, even if the diminishing of his role shows Lucas changing something instead of keeping things the way he wanted them like he tends to do.
Quote from: GregX on April 11, 2014, 01:36:09 PMQuote from: No-Personality on April 09, 2014, 07:43:20 PMThings've been a bit dry for the peeps I follow. There was a new Lindsay 50 Shades of Green episode and a vlog on Game of Thrones... which I got about 90 seconds through before realizing it'll be too hard to understand what they're talking about. I have no dang idea what that show is. And I hate most historical dramas.
Well, when you say you have no idea what the show is, and then say you hate most historical dramas in the next sentence, you do end up looking a bit foolish.
It's not a historical drama, it's an (excellent) TV show based on series of (excellent) fantasy novels set in a fictional world with dragons, White Walkers, zombies, and so on.
Lord of the Rings is the exact same genre as a movie like
Glory or
Gettysburg. Whatever you call that genre. The same genre as
DragonHeart, the same genre as
Braveheart, the same as
Highlander. Whatever you call that genre. Call it a war film, call it an epic. Call it what you want. These films are undeniably unified by tone, style, similar music scores, color palette. And, yes, thematic elements. Same as
Game of Thrones (and, to me, television today and film share similar cinematic qualities). I knew what I was saying. And I merely expressed a different sense of taste than whoever cares for the show.
Expecting me to call it just the right thing because other people are sensitive is ridiculous. I wind up putting on more airs just to adequately address
Game of Thrones fans. To deal with the bug up someone else's ass. I don't reject any quality the show might have just because
Lord of the Rings / the movies and shows I've previously experienced in the genre bore the snot out of me. I never pretended I was better than anyone else for hating these sorts of programs. I'm wise enough to know the genre is just not for me. And I have no issue with that. I don't want to have an issue with that and I sure as hell don't need to deal with someone else's snobbery.
Is my not calling it by a more or less broad term worthy of insulting me? Hell no and you're wrong if you say otherwise. I don't insult other people here (just challenge them, as I have been many times). I don't have to take any guff from anyone for this.
So I decided to comment on Doug's Star Wars prequel pros.
11. I can agree on this one. The fights are energetic and fun in the prequels. I do wish more of those fights had more meaning to them, but energetic shallow combat is better than dull shallow combat.
10. I'll definitely take less Jar-Jar in general, so I'm glad they cut down on him as the movies went on.
9. I've always been iffy on Yoda fighting with a light saber, as I feel he should be above that. I guess separating it though, it can be fun watching him flip around. But in terms of story, the only argument I could see one making is that Yoda went all against sword fighting in the years between the prequels and the original trilogy.
8. I honestly didn't remember this scene. Not saying it's good or bad, but I have no opinion on it.
7. That pregnant revelation scene was indeed fairly well done.
6. I always felt Hayden had gotten more natural by Episode III. He still falls flat every time he talks, but he's able to pull of those quiet moments where he's just angry or sad, or simply brooding. And I do think he looks legitimately intimidating in those scenes in Episode III after turning. If those movies had a better director, I'm sure he would have delivered the dialogue better, too. I don't really understand why he's the one who has gotten the most hate out of the actors in this trilogy.
5. Episode III's opening is pretty much Star Wars action, so it's fine on this list.
4. Ewan McGregor indeed gives one of the better performances in the trilogy. I do wish he had a bit more to do, though. He mostly shines in Episode III.
3. I love the Emperor in the prequels. This should be moved up to #1 on the list.
2. Highly disagree here. Those worlds just looked too hollow in all that CGI.
1. Not sure how I feel about this choice, as it's implied that the Emperor was lying.
Also, John Williams should have been more than "11.5". I'd put that, alongside the Emperor, as the top two choices. But other than that, I agree with about 2/3 of his list.
Todd reviews (and yes, I can back up his claim in the video) the biggest hit of 1998:
http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/one-hit-wonderland-ghetto-supastar-by-pras-6848468
"Ghetto Superstar" by Pras featuring Mya and Ol' Dirty Bastard. Names you'll only recognize if you were about 15 in 1998. Like I was. Interesting episode. Could have used a little more info and analysis on Lauryn and Wyclef's careers to better put all 3 of their successes that year into context, or any mention that Lauryn's had serious financial troubles. Especially since there'll never be another episode on her (she was a one-hit Album wonder, not a one-hit Single wonder) and he just throws a "now she's insane" at the end to basically suggest that parting ways was a disaster for all of them.
He also brings up hip-hop in 1998 and rappers turning into actors. I had 3 Master P CD's in 1998. Just thought I'd throw that in there. (But, like with everything else in life- I feel no shame.)
Oh, and another fine Cinema Snob non-horror / exploitation / porn review, Two of a Kind (the 1983 "romantic" "comedy" starring John Travolta and Olivia Newton-John). In which he says Staying Alive is up and coming... I HOPE SO! I caught that on Netflix: Watch Instant, it's... perfect reviewing fodder.
http://blip.tv/the-cinema-snob/episode-6845811
I wonder why Lindsay is so focused on disaster movies lately? Her reviews have pretty much become exclusively about them for a while now. Not that I'm not enjoying them, but I wish she'd give them a break and review other stuff too.
This week's NC is the Swan Princess. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/43053-swan-princess)
Good review! I think I liked this one as a kid, probably since yeah, it was so similar to Disney. But I haven't seen it in ages, so my admiration for it isn't too high. Doug got a good review out of it.
Now this one was laugh-out-loud funny, IMO.
Todd's selfie! (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/tis/tpsr/43134-selfie-by-the-chainsmokers)
And he references "Valley Girl"!
What you never knew about Roger Rabbit. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/43137-what-you-never-knew-about-roger-rabbit)
Quote from: Cartoon X on April 29, 2014, 01:59:13 PMWhat you never knew about Roger Rabbit. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/43137-what-you-never-knew-about-roger-rabbit)
A day just after he releases this video, this had to happen. (http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/30/showbiz/obit-bob-hoskins)
Kyle's Shakespeare month is in bloom. I hope you guys are checking it out, it starts with Baz Luhrmann's
Romeo + Juliet:
http://blip.tv/brows-held-high/shakespeare-month-romeo-juliet-6862365
And, yes, I am more interested in Kyle's video reviews of cinematic adaptations of poetry than anyone else's vlogs of blockbuster lame fantasy-historical epics.
Quote from: Avaitor on April 29, 2014, 12:43:03 PMTodd's selfie! (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/tis/tpsr/43134-selfie-by-the-chainsmokers)
And he references "Valley Girl"!
He also references "Shoes" by Kelly... and my guns are out BIG TIME because I will fight anyone who insists that video is not a work of genius. I don't even know how the hell he can compare this to Ke$ha because Ke$ha is not actually a spoof / pastiche. Not knowingly. "Shoes" is entirely a joke. There's a friggin' dinosaur attacking a security guard for shit's sake.
First "You Oughta Know." Then "Milkshake." Now "Shoes"??? Todd has zero taste. Of course, the bigger problem clearly is that his name-drops are more clever than his ability to place them in a proper stream of context.
Otherwise, yeah, this was a great video. With one big problem: the "song" was too loud the whole time. I definitely lost a few of his words over the high pitch of the woman's yacking voice.
This article gave Kyle an existential crisis recently. (http://moviemezzanine.com/putting-the-geek-to-the-plow/)
But besides that, new NC! (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/43234-the-lorax)
I still don't understand the appeal of the Once-ler.
To give you an idea of how out of the loop I am, I didn't even know there was all this fan-love for the Once-ler until I saw this video. (But it's worth mentioning that I also had no idea that fangirls were squee-ing for Tom Hiddleston's Loki until I saw the first trailer for Thor: The Dark World in a theater.)
I didn't even bother going to see this movie. I knew The Lorax was going to be dreck the second I read that the film would be focusing on the kid, turning him into a teen and giving him a F.R.I. (Forced Romantic Interest). And you gotta love a movie whose titular character is supposed to be standing against development and crass commercialism being used to shill everything from pancakes to cars.
Also, Doug came on at the end and announced that they'll be auditioning new talent for the site. Dang, I'd like to audition for TGWTG, but I still haven't purchased any video editing software or begun shooting anything yet. Maybe next time.
Doug said the new stuff didn't have to be review-oriented, which is good 'cause I don't review stuff. I just goof, riff, snark and crack wise about cartoons, short films, TV shows and commercials. What we do at The Twin Factor can hardly be called reviewing.
I remember last year when I was introduced to all of the Once-ler fanart, including Once-ler pin-ups and Once-ler selfcest. What has been seen can never leave my mind.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on May 07, 2014, 02:19:27 PM
I remember last year when I was introduced to all of the Once-ler fanart, including Once-ler pin-ups and Once-ler selfcest. What has been seen can never leave my mind.
Only the dead can know peace from this evil. But yeah, I was aware of that shit.... I just don't understand the how and the why to it, and I even watched the flick on Netflix a couple of months back and I still didn't get it. I still remember the video where Ed Helms looked at the comments about Oncest.
I guess he's just Princess Sally/Renamon/Lola for women and gay men.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on May 07, 2014, 03:41:04 PM
I guess he's just Princess Sally/Renamon/Lola for women and gay men.
You can say the same for Jack Frost.
Why do we love stupid? (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/43322-why-do-we-love-stupid)
Old vs. New returns for Spider-Man. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/43400-old-vs-new-spider-man)
It should be noted that there are spoilers in that video. So anyone intending on seeing The Amazing Spider-Man 2 currently in theaters should avoid it.
As someone who is a fan of the Raimi trilogy (including 3), but didn't like TASM and has no interest in seeing the sequel currently in theaters (hence why I had no issue with watching the video), I disagree with many of his points (at least the ones I could grasp seeing as I only saw the first Amazing movie, don't necessarily apply these points with TASM2).
To start, honestly, I didn't like Andrew Garfield in the role of Spider-Man. I get the performance he was trying to give, but to me it just didn't work. Not to mention, he really didn't even compare the two Spider-Mans. He spent most of the time just talking a lot about Andrew Garfield. Plus, saying "Tobey Maguire gave up being Spider-Man because it was hard" isn't a good complaint. I mean, one of the big points of the character is that he is still just a normal guy. As soon as he said this, I was waiting to hear her counter argument, but she didn't make it for some reason. He just cut off the comparison there. Besides... of all Garfield's one-liners in TASM1, none of them were gold like "It's you who's out Gobby, out of your mind". :D
Also, I never agreed with people's issues with Kirsten Dunst's Mary Jane. To me she worked and their relationship seemed believable. It's naturally just rocky from start to finish, and I like the progression of her suspicion that Peter is Spider-Man. In the times where she comes off as annoying, such as when she pushes him away when he tries to form a relationship with her in SM2, I get the feeling that she's more waiting for him to open up to her rather than merely pushing him away out of sadness. And when they do end up together... it's not easy. Even her expression in the last moment of SM2, after encouraging him to aid in that police chase outside, gives a look like she's questioning herself, and their future. And at the very end of SM3, it makes perfect sense that maybe they still aren't ready to be together. Andrew Garfield and Emma Stone's relationship, at least in TASM1, felt rushed (which is a complaint I'd make on most things from that movie). But besides that, Emma Stone was fine. She wasn't one of my problems with Amazing, so I won't comment much on her.
I think he glossed over the Lizard. He was just... a guy who was turned into a lizard, who wanted to turn everyone into... lizards... Doug did say that the villain dialogue isn't memorable, but he didn't talk about how weird and contrived the Lizard's plan was. :P
Am I the only one who doesn't think either movie series is all that good?
Quote from: GregX on May 20, 2014, 07:33:21 PM
Am I the only one who doesn't think either movie series is all that good?
Nah, I don't really care for them either. :sweat:
I don't love any of them, and don't get why SM2 is so highly praised of a film, but I simultaneously get moderate enjoyment out of all of them (including SM3).
That said, I'd like to make it clear that TSSM animated series is leagues better than any of the films.
I don't remember anything about Alfred Molina as Doc Ock. Doug should speak for himself there. :D
Oh, and sorry Talon, but I have to agree with the NC about MJ. On top of just being a damsel in distress for most of Raimi's films, she is just a very bland character, and I never felt any chemistry between her and Peter in those films. I don't think that the movie version of Gwen Stacy is quite as interesting of a character as Doug makes her out to be (sure she is useful, but that alone doesn't make a character interesting or well-written, which is really what Doug seems to be implying with her), but I have to admit that at least she and Peter have good chemistry between each other in the new films. That alone makes her a better replacement for MJ.
Fair enough. I suppose I'm in the minority, at least on this site, that likes the relationship between Peter and Mary Jane, and liked seeing how it developed from the start when they basically just classmates (though the "Is that an angel?" line was admittedly pretty cringeworthy). To me, the building of Peter and Gwen's relationship felt really fast, especially when she learned he was Spider-Man and when he then apparently carried her around the city.
But the best romance in any superhero movies, in my opinion, is probably Superman and Lois in the Donner movies. I also like the "romantic but also professional" connection between Tony Stark and Pepper.
The best is Steve Rogers and Peggy Carter. No contest.
Doug asks the age-old question: Is Juno any damn good? (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/43473-is-juno-any-damn-good)
The answer is no.
I haven't seen Juno, so... :??:
I never got why it was so highly praised in the first place. The writing is atrocious, IMO.
It's still some of the worst dialogue I've ever heard in a movie. No one I have ever met in my life talks like that. All I ever got out of it was "hey, let's try way too hard to make these characters quirky and memorable."
Quote from: Nel_Annette on May 27, 2014, 05:21:28 PM
It's still some of the worst dialogue I've ever heard in a movie. No one I have ever met in my life talks like that. All I ever got out of it was "hey, let's try way too hard to make these characters quirky and memorable."
Fully agreed. I have so many people around me who say I have no taste in movies because I thought Juno was shit. When I try analyzing it they say I'm "thinking about it too hard." My nuts I am, bad writing is bad writing, period. I hated the characters, they didn't feel natural, and they just tried so hard to make them "quirky" because to some people that = interesting characters. Not enough on its own, sorry.
I haven't watched Juno in years and all I remembered from it was that it had Ellen Page and Michael Cera in it. It didn't leave that much of an impression on me.
Quote from: ElricJC on May 27, 2014, 07:07:08 PM
Quote from: Nel_Annette on May 27, 2014, 05:21:28 PM
It's still some of the worst dialogue I've ever heard in a movie. No one I have ever met in my life talks like that. All I ever got out of it was "hey, let's try way too hard to make these characters quirky and memorable."
Fully agreed. I have so many people around me who say I have no taste in movies because I thought Juno was shit. When I try analyzing it they say I'm "thinking about it too hard." My nuts I am, bad writing is bad writing, period. I hated the characters, they didn't feel natural, and they just tried so hard to make them "quirky" because to some people that = interesting characters. Not enough on its own, sorry.
100% agreed!
Groove is in the heart in this OWC! (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/one-hit-wonderland-groove-is-in-the-heart-by-deee-lite-6901708)
I love this song. And yeah, Barney and Robin's dance to this song is one of my favorite HIMYM moments.
I feel like Doug's editorials are starting to become a little hit or miss.
Agreed.
They used to all be misses. I was extremely impressed by his one about "stupid being funny," that was just perfect.
This week, Doug takes on Blues Brothers 2000. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/43558-blues-brothers-2000)
New Todd! (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/wiggle-by-jason-derulo-a-pop-song-review-6920586)
This week's NC is Jurassic Park 3. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/43723-jurassic-park-3)
Haven't posted in awhile. Though there've been enough interesting things to post. Diamanda reviewed a couple of "classic" fringe torture films. Doubt anyone would be interested in those. But she did do a typically excellent animated film review (this one is LONG, but as I've previously stated, along with Kyle when he's on-fire, she is THE best video reviewer out there). For Rock and Rule:
http://blip.tv/diamanda-hagan-lecher-bitch/05-10-rock-and-rule-review-sd-6894615
Nostalgia Chick is ... back, again. With True Lies, a heavily redundant review. Not even close to being her at her best (those Game of Thrones vlogs are a bad distraction):
http://blip.tv/nostalgia-chick/nostalgia-chick-true-lies-6929381
Not one I would have expected from Cinema Snob, but... Mommie Dearest:
http://blip.tv/the-cinema-snob/mommie-dearest-by-the-cinema-snob-6874796
Now, this is not her best work but... I've already watched it twice in the last week. And I just want to watch it again. And probably again, after that. It's well-known in critical circles as being one of the most Have to Have It Described to You to Believe It sequels in the history of horror. Obscurus Lupa reviews Creepshow 3:
http://blip.tv/OLPresents/olp-creepshow-3-part-1-6928773 (Part 1)
http://blip.tv/OLPresents/olp-creepshow-3-part-2-6929091 (Part 2)
She also reviewed the Teen Wolf films and I have to recommend this review because it's a pretty important departure from Lupa's usual shtick. She's very sober about these movies, which is actually appropriate:
http://blip.tv/OLPresents/olp-teen-wolf-teen-wolf-too-6898914
Todd has a new One Hit Wonderland, on Biz Markie. I haven't watched it yet but:
http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/one-hit-wonderland-just-a-friend-by-biz-markie-6943586
And PushingUpRoses did a couple great reviews last month. Of clearly contrasting subjects. One girly, for the Cosmopolitan Virtual Makeover:
http://blip.tv/pushinguproses/cosmopolitan-virtual-makeover-6901257
and the biker game, Full Throttle, which looks like fun (with a cameo from Needles riding a motorcycle...sort of):
http://blip.tv/pushinguproses/full-throttle-6873532
And I don't see anyone else having mentioned it, Nostalgia Critic did a pretty neat little video on Top 18 "did you notice that?" things from the Gremlins films:
http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nostalgia-critic-what-you-never-knew-about-gremlins-6922437
As someone who literally grew up with these films, I feel compelled to basically answer back to Doug's list with which bits he pointed out that I actually didn't notice and which I've known about for years.
#18: The cameos. Yes. Thanks to Joe Dante's audio commentaries with cast & crew on both, I know very well all the cameos. Although, there's also an actor Joe brought back for Gremlins 2 that he worked with on Piranha and I still don't know the guy's name (IMDb later). He also brought in, I think he mentioned, one of the kids who starred in his 1985 film, Explorers, who plays the male health food server. He also forgot to mention that Haviland Morris was in Sixteen Candles. He also forgot to mention the references to Piranha and The Howling in the first film, a drawing of a killer fish can be seen in the scene where Billy shows the mogwai to Pete's teacher and Billy has those smiley-face stickers on his refrigerator.
#17: Kate's childhood trauma monologues. Yes.
#16: Pete's science teacher. This one actually caused me to wake up the next morning with a brilliant observation: was Billy INSANE? Give one of these Mogwai's to anyone else on Earth and what's to stop them for cloning it to make hundreds of them? Even if he thinks the guy's a scientist and that that means he can trust him, there is still a kind of power that would probably go right to his or anyone's head- I wouldn't trust anyone to have / take one of the mogwai's out of my sight. (If it was a matter of trust.) But, as for Doug's observations, the film of course had a very different original script and in that script, the Gremlins actually murdered both Billy's dog and his mother by cutting off her head. There was also a scene at McDonalds where Billy and Kate went inside and found the remains of dead people in the booths where they had been chewed to bits... but all their burgers and fries on the tables hadn't been touched.
#15: The voices behind the Gremlins. Yeah, I knew about this. Thanks to Leonard Maltin's old review guide, actually. Who Doug doesn't exactly mention as a cameo in the 2nd film but he notoriously gave the first film a negative review and Joe Dante and co. remembered him and asked him to be in Gremlins 2 in a scene where he'd be attacked for not liking the movie. In his review for the sequel though, he singles out all the voice actors.
#14: The string over melting Stripe in fountain. No. I didn't notice this one.
#13: Steven Spielberg's working title in-references, Watch the Skies and A Boy's Life. Yes. Again, thanks to the audio commentaries.
#12: The John Wayne VHS/TV interlude replacing the Hulk Hogan theatrical interlude. Yep. I actually didn't see the Hulk Hogan version until I bought the film on DVD. HBO showed the John Wayne version and so did the official VHS versions. Doug also neglected yet another cameo: Paul Bartel, who plays the usher. He was not only an actor in Piranha, but was a director too who made some excellent exploitation comedies, Private Parts (1972) and the famous cult film, Lust in the Dust (1986) which romantically paired 60's heartthrob Tab Hunter and drag superstar Divine.
#11: Why does water make the Gremlins multiply but not beer and snow? I actually noticed the beer one... but completely didn't think about the snow. So, half yes and half no.
#10: Billy's boss has everyone wait on her... Uh... there's not much to see here. I assume chocolate moose tastes like chocolate Anything.
#9: How can Gizmo drive the toy car; how does the car drive? Actually, I never thought this one through. So, I guess I have to say I did miss this one.
#8: Vectorscope Labs. I missed this one. But I don't remember Innerspace at all. And the Octopus monster movie Rick Baker worked on... I've actually seen this clip used in another movie but I can't for the life of me remember which one. It could be another Joe Dante or it could be something like Humanoids from the Deep- I don't know.
#7: Does it look like Mrs. Deagle's husband was watching her being killed and was he happy about it? I can pretty much confirm through the deleted scenes and the deleted subplot about Mrs. Deagle trying to force Billy's family, the Futtermans', and everyone on their block out of their houses, that her and her husband were actually in-league and had similar evil plans. The news report at the end of the movie mentions that her husband was a convicted stock swindler and a deleted scene has her looking at a photo of him on her table with love and a little sadness. I think they probably had a good marriage and were being paired up as Evil + Evil.
#6: The cops never help Santa. I think we all noticed that. And thought it over. Again, chalk this up to the original script being darker and less family-friendly.
#5: Stealing flowers from Mimes. Why Mimes? I have no clue (I don't think the commentary stopped to talk about it). As for Billy stealing the flower, it was clearly one of those actory things they like to do to always be doing some small thing to keep busy and "enhance" their performance. Did he actually expect Kate to feel romantic when he gave it to her? No. He was too busy talking about how they needed to get the hell to work to stop the mogwai's before they became Gremlins.
#4: The note on the film projector. No. Who's going to be able to see that anyway, unless they own the Blu-Ray. I'm poor: I can't afford Blu-Ray!!! Thanks for rubbing it in, Doug!!!
#3: The silly channels on the Clamp Cable Network are all real now. Not much to see here either, but these are confirmed in the audio commentary.
#2: The car outside the gas station is a "Gremlin." I don't remember if I noticed. It was probably mentioned in the commentary.
#1: The sci-fi film references. Yes: Joe Dante points all of them out in the commentaries.
Heh, you gotta admire Joe Dante. He's just a big nerd who got to break big into the industry, the kind that rarely makes it as far as he did. But being friends with Spielberg has its perks...
I did see the Cinema Snob and Todd videos. The Biz Markie one is fun, but his OHWs usually are when he's overwhelmingly positive or negative, yet not afraid to call out their weaknesses when necessary, on the subject. Mommie Dearest... is a movie that I still want to see at some point, but I'm kind of afraid to. At some point I'll get to it, though. And the Snob was surprisingly fair to it.
Todd reviews that song that's supposed to be really big but I still haven't heard. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/tis/tpsr/43842-fancy-by-iggy-azalea)
Oh it's getting there, I know because it came on the radio the other day. It was the first time my mom ever heard it, she let the whole thing play trying to get a grasp on it. The whole time she had a "WTF?" expression. :sly:
But yeah, this song SUCKS. I hope Todd's optimism about Iggy is rewarded because it would be pretty cool to finally have a prominent white female rapper. But like he said, it doesn't seem likely at the moment.
Well, there's Nicki Minaj, and... uh... well, we almost had Lauryn Hill, but then she kind of went crazy... Oh, and Missy Elliot, but she came and went pretty fast.
Eh, does anyone really take Nicki Minaj that seriously though?
Anyway, I meant to put "white" in my post originally, but Holy Crap you're right about there really not being a prominent black female rapper either. :huh:
To be fair, The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill is one of the best rap albums of all time, and both Missy and even Nicki have some good songs. But yeah, rap is more of a dude's game.
Linkara celebrates 300 episodes of Atop the 4th Wall by reviewing what is possibly the WORST comic he's ever had to review! (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/linkara/at4w/43870-300th-episode)
I'm still waiting for him to do a recent Alan Moore comic.
Quote from: Avaitor on June 28, 2014, 01:36:03 AMTo be fair, The Miseducation of Lauryn Hill is one of the best rap albums of all time, and both Missy and even Nicki have some good songs. But yeah, rap is more of a dude's game.
This doesn't argue against what you've said in any way but, let's not forget: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZlWRhnYgWcc
She's been pretty quiet since "1991" but... she's out there.
Oh, and... Peaches raps: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OufjMK0AHQw I'd consider her prominent enough, she's been doing it for a decade at least.
Another Todd review. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/rude-by-magic-a-pop-song-review-6988062) I don't really know the song, but it's a decent vid.
This week the Nostalgia Critic examines the strengths and weaknesses of movies that do not follow a traditional narrative structure by asking the question: Is Tree of Life Full of Shit? (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/43946-is-tree-of-life-full-of-shit)
It's funny how he barely talks about Tree of Life at all, despite the video title.
Well, I don't think that wasn't the real point of the video. He just used the question as a starting off point to explore what makes a narrativeless film work, which is clearly what he really wanted to talk about. He could have chose any film similar to Tree of Life as that starting off point, and it wouldn't have made a difference, but he likely chose it because 1. it's well-known and 2. it exemplifies many qualities about such films he wanted to discuss.
In a new episode of Shut Up and Talk, Doug interviews everyone's favorite hooded pop song reviewer, Todd in the Shadows. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/shut-up-and-talk/43967-shut-up-and-talk-todd-in-the-shadows)
By the way, even though I did remember his review being funny, am I the only one who wonders if it was necessary for Doug to review Commando? I mean, it's a silly film, but it's not like it was unintentional.
This week, the NC teams up with Linkara and Spoony to take a look at the horrifyingly bad Bloodrayne (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/44033-bloodrayne).
Look who's back for the new NC! (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/44033-bloodrayne)
Todd's Tweeting about the Madonna movie, Swept Away... could he be... oh, please tell me he's... thinking about doing another movie review. I loved his reviews of Glitter and Burlesque. And he barely talked about the songs in Glitter, so, it wouldn't be crazy to review this movie even though it's not a musical. The only song Madonna performs is a lip-sync. Well, she croaks out a few tiny bits of a Della Reese song. Yeah- that's Della Reese of Touched by an Angel fame.
;D
EDIT: He was also talking a lot of shit about Revolver. I thought for a second he was talking about the Madonna song from 2009. But, no, he meant the Guy Richie movie. Of course, they were still married in 2009. (Immediately runs and checks Google... the movie was released in 2005.)
I think Todd's a Mariah Carey stan, musically at least. He seems to be the only one who liked that single of hers last year.
"#Beautiful"?
I haven't heard it yet.
Yeah, that one, but I think she just had a new album come out. From what I've heard of Mariah's recent work, her voice has already peaked, which is sad.
But speaking of Todd's opinions, I've been hearing "Fancy" a lot lately, and I have to say that I like everything about it but Iggy Azalea. Charlie XCX's parts are the obvious, but delightful hook, and the bassline is killer, but I'm with Todd on Iggy's main parts being ungodly boring. Yet at the same time, I think her part on Ariana Grande's song is much better than the main stuff.
What You Never Knew About Hot Fuzz. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/44108-what-you-never-knew-about-hot-fuzz)
New One Hit Wonderland: "Informer" by Snow (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/tis/one-hit-wonderland/44105-informer-by-snow)
^ If Eminem has taught us anything, never slam a white rapper for being white. There's always a black puppet-master behind the white puppet. Oh, yeah, and I've always liked "Informer."
Twitter's buzzing with some of the new finally-announced pickups during May's "talent search." Including Rantasmo / Needs More Gay (who guest-starred in Diamanda's Vegas in Space review a few months back), "Stuff You Like," and Folding Ideas / Foldable Human who are all from Lindsay's Chez Apocalypse.
Oh, and the extremely popular horror review shows Count Jackula and The Horror Guru. They're both actually incredibly talented, smart writers who have made some excellent videos... in the past. Unfortunately, since meeting each other, they've become basically the same person. The same head-splittingly ultra-obnoxious, hyper-masculine, speed-ranting goofball. You know how some people can't stand Phelous because he sort of expresses himself like an overly caffeinated Sesame Street monster-character? Multiply that by about 10 for Jackula and 40 for Guru. Meanwhile, if their older reviews go to TGwtG first, I'll gladly pimp them alongside any good new ones by Lupa, Diamanda, etc.
I hope Boots to Reboots applied. That guy, while just as gross and crass as a lot of less talented producers, is actually pretty funny. Especially his 2-part Godzilla (Roland Emmerich) review. And Some Jerk with a Camera. I can't think of any reason for him not to try for it.
So I was thinking lately. To me, it kind of seems like Lindsey sees the TGWTG site as being, to put it one way, a means to an end.
We know that Lindsey has big hopes and plans for what she wants to do with her future, and it's not the same as what Doug has going. I mean, she went to school for this stuff. It's especially noticeable when you look at her earlier videos and compare them to her more recent ones. Back then, it looks to me like she basically accepted the girl Nostalgia Critic shtick to ride it out and go from there, and within a few years, she very much developed into her own thing. I feel like she needs this site as a sort of stepping stone for what she wants to do next.
Plus, she has also taken subtle jabs at the TGWTG fanbase.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on July 29, 2014, 02:15:39 AMPlus, she has also taken subtle jabs at the TGWTG fanbase.
Let's just remember what some of these people are really like. Because many of them are anything but humble. Just look at the people who still attack Phelous to this day just because Lupa is his girlfriend just because she had a falling out with Spoony on Twitter. I mean- I will always think Kyle was downright petty and potentially insulting in his review of
The Doom Generation. (Which now helps me understand how several people could have had a problem with his review of
The Girlfriend Experiment.) But I do not let that taint my opinion of who he really is or anything, because I'm mature enough to know that there is something disappointing in everyone you'll ever meet. You accept it and move on. Don't... write fan fiction about people who are not technically trained actors or entirely fictional characters (and I mean: cartoons). And I don't like Bennett the Sage but I would never make a video about how he was one of TGwtG's biggest mistakes - http://blip.tv/thatguyinthecape/shinobi-s-commentaries-25-special-part-1-top-11-tgwtg-misfires-11-6-5474106 . And I'm not actually referring to his inclusion of "The Distressed Watcher." A lot of people can't stand Amazing Atheist and their opinions are all valid. But, his comments on Lindsay are the kind of thing I will neither accept nor forget.
By the way, it seems my earlier prediction was pretty close... Todd has a new series he's working on... with Madonna movies as the focus. Episode one is up now:
http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/cinemadonna-desperately-seeking-susan-7001941
With all this talk about Frozen on this site, lately, I find it humorous that CR's newest video just happens to be about... (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/cr/ff/44187-olaf)
Quote from: No-Personality on July 29, 2014, 08:10:21 AM
Quote from: talonmalon333 on July 29, 2014, 02:15:39 AMPlus, she has also taken subtle jabs at the TGWTG fanbase.
Let's just remember what some of these people are really like. Because many of them are anything but humble.
Yeah, but I was also getting at how they can be just as fans. I remember Lindsey making a joke about people calling her out for "Trying too hard" or "Not trying hard enough". I forget exactly how it went, but she was basically making fun of typical fan stuff.
I myself have always felt like there was disconnect between me from TGWTG and its community. Like, I was never able to love anything Doug does, in the way that I love the works of a lot of other people on the internet. I follow the works of people like Mega64 and James Rolfe all along the way and support them. With Doug (and whoever else on the site I'm a fan of) I just kinda-sorta keep up with their videos every once in a while, but for the most part don't really care at all. When Doug called the Moulin Rouge video his best work, I was kind of just left thinking "what?". There's just always an invisible wall between me and TGWTG.
And I'm not excluding Lindsey entirely here, either, despite the fact that she almost exists outside of that. The fact that she loves bringing in her friends so much just kills so many of her videos for me. If it wasn't for them, Lindsey might actually be my favorite series on TGWTG.
Whenever I step inside the TGWTG fanbase, I seem to be at a minority to not love every single thing Doug Walker has ever done. I certainly enjoy a good part of his NC videos, but I can't really understand how one can become a stan of his material.
Anyway, new NC (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/44185-the-purge).
I think that, overall, I just don't find Doug to be that funny. Particularly when he drags out jokes and overacts. It's like he has good jokes but bad instincts, because I can distinctively remember moments where he would say things that are legitimately funny and then ruin them badly. There's also the fact that he feels the need to pad out his episodes with skits, which honestly are a bit of a bore. These days I feel as if I just don't have the desire to ever start any of his videos because I just want to watch him review movies, not have to wait through skits.
The skits are pretty hit or miss, but I don't mind them. I think Doug himself is pretty hit or miss with his reviews. Even before the skits it felt that way.
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 29, 2014, 05:56:46 PM
The skits are pretty hit or miss, but I don't mind them. I think Doug himself is pretty hit or miss with his reviews. Even before the skits it felt that way.
Agreed.
The end of that review with Pinkie and the Brain. I was in tears laughing.
Quote from: Nel_Annette on July 30, 2014, 12:13:03 AMThe end of that review with Pinkie and the Brain. I was in tears laughing.
Which review?
Purge. Thinking about it, I get why some people are mad about it; Doug getting the actual voice actors to say something so horrible. But I found it so unexpected that I was just laughing my head off.
I wasn't surprised- considering how several TGwtG'ers have Tweeted pics meeting Rob Paulsen at conventions. (By the way, I noticed last year that Paulsen has a tiny role in one of my Top 100 horror picks,
Warlock, as a gas pumper at a service station.) Good review, though. What a shit movie. Like I've said, horror has been pretentious as hell since 2003.
Quote from: Cartoon X on July 29, 2014, 11:51:10 AMWith all this talk about Frozen on this site, lately, I find it humorous that CR's newest video just happens to be about... (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/cr/ff/44187-olaf)
This seems to be his first video in a year or more. And
damn was it genius!! I've been saying since March that the
Frozen fandom has been nothing but a detriment to the film and to Disney's reputation. Yet, look at this video and Honest Trailers, etc. They've been poking huge holes in the fans' arguments that it's the most complex and intelligent and best Disney animated film. Which it doesn't have to be to be a decent watch and maintain an upward curve for Disney's quality control. (That is, over garbage like
Princess and the Frog. And... what were they doing before 2009? Didn't they go kind of dead-silent after
Chicken Little for a few years?) (It is really not hard to do better than
Princess and the Frog.)
Oh, and one of the videos on
Frozen I saw recently pointed out that "Let It Go" is kind of a direct rip-off of Katy Perry's "Firework."
Princess and the Frog was not garbage. :srs:
And Frozen doesn't sound like Firework, that's a load of crap.
Quote from: Peanutbutter on August 01, 2014, 10:19:43 AMPrincess and the Frog was not garbage. :srs:
One good thing about it?
Quote from: Peanutbutter on August 01, 2014, 10:19:43 AMAnd Frozen doesn't sound like Firework, that's a load of crap.
The song in question is "Let It Go." And, compare the two. Right now.
But, no need to take my word for it:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=let+it+go+firework
Quote from: No-Personality on August 01, 2014, 03:25:20 PM
Quote from: Peanutbutter on August 01, 2014, 10:19:43 AMPrincess and the Frog was not garbage. :srs:
One good thing about it?
It's the first movie with a black Disney Princess. Her best friend was a fun character, they had the guts to kill off the talking firefly, it had an instant classic villain song "Friends on the Other Side", and not to mention the villain himself was awesome. Overall, it had an enjoyable cast with a good story. It's not garbage just because you didn't like it.
QuoteQuote from: Peanutbutter on August 01, 2014, 10:19:43 AMAnd Frozen doesn't sound like Firework, that's a load of crap.
The song in question is "Let It Go." And, compare the two. Right now.
But, no need to take my word for it:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=let+it+go+firework
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!
That was just the words from Let It Go played over Firework. That didn't prove anything. :lol:
I could play Gnarles Barkley's "Crazy" over "Rolling in the Deep" if I knew how to edit music, that doesn't make them the same song. Thanks for proving my point further. :awesome:
Quote from: Peanutbutter on August 01, 2014, 08:43:06 PMIt's the first movie with a black Disney Princess. Her best friend was a fun character, they had the guts to kill off the talking firefly, it had an instant classic villain song "Friends on the Other Side", and not to mention the villain himself was awesome. Overall, it had an enjoyable cast with a good story. It's not garbage just because you didn't like it.
#1: Tiana's being black is just as much a reason for me to criticize the movie and say it didn't do her justice! Disney had
decades to do a movie with a black Princess in it. But instead, they wait too long and slap some cheap shit of a "plot" and "character background" together at what has always felt like the last minute, proving the only thing they cared about was adding another piece to their soulless Benetton assembly of dolls for the Princess merchandise line. It's like dipping a Barbie in liquified black marker- she's still a damn Barbie. There is no substance to her identity, nothing interesting about her. Disney didn't care about making her interesting and you're not even attempting to prove otherwise. Your attitude is coming off like "well, black people and Everyone Else should be grateful" and that is beyond absurd.
#2: Killing Ray is nowhere near as challenging a move on Disney's part than the legendary scenes from
Pinocchio, Fantasia, Bambi, Dumbo, etc., that have shocked audiences for decades. And, I'm just talking as a concept. It didn't surprise me when Facilier stepped on him, even
before Disney fucked everything up by showing up him still alive and
not the slightest bit squished or broken up afterward which removed ALL of the impact it had even from the people who were affected by it, then choosing to give him extra dialogue. Which actually hurt even more because he was an annoying, cheap stereotype the whole movie long. In short: F for effort. This aspect of the movie, like everything else that mattered (beyond the backgrounds and gorgeous colors), is a cop out.
#3: Disney hasn't crafted a truly iconic, memorable villain for-the-ages since Frollo. (Which still shocks me, since I forgot the entirety of
Hunchback mere minutes after seeing it in the 90's. But I can't say the world didn't remember Frollo. They did.) Facilier is all-flash, nothing more. Nothing he did penetrated the surface. Like every other "creative" aspect to this flaccid, tepid movie. His motivation can be chalked up to plot convenience, he had no menace, his writing wasn't embellished with any wit or charm, and casting Keith David in this role is exactly like casting Sandy Duncan as Vixey in
Fox and the Hound or if Jim Cummings had voiced Scar in more than just pieces of "Be Prepared." Did they even think of him when they were casting actors with deep, imposing voices on
Oliver & Company? No, they wait over 25 years from when he made his mark in film in John Carpenter's
The Thing (which is what steered his career into "tough guy" roles) to say "come on board" for their film output, which by that point they were only importing him from their TV series' anyway... if they had the respect for him that he deserved to be shown, they would have considered him for a better role in a better movie and not waited until they had a project they didn't care about.
And, 2 words: Oogie Boogie. You want a dark Disney villain with some guts about how he was created, who makes an impression, AND is voiced by an actor I hadn't even heard of? This is where Disney put in all their effort. And the actual work people put into
Nightmare Before Christmas, even though I don't care for the movie very much- I can admit is vastly superior to
Princess, is exactly why this movie deserves to be judged by a higher standard. And why it falls so short. ("Friends on the Other Side" is nothing without the animation, and with it- it's just a 5th rate "Poor Unfortunate Souls.")
#4: I said the movie was garbage because I have a lot of reasons for why it is most certainly garbage to me. You want to challenge those reasons? Fine with me. You'll have your work cut out for you. This whole movie is tainted by Disney's corporate interests and profound lack of artistic integrity which up to that point they'd lacked since the early 1990's- a peak of success they haven't been able to rematch with anything before
Frozen (even though
Tangled is arguably superior). Almost every single thing about
Princess and the Frog is pandering - think of Ray as this movie's Larry the Cable Guy from Pixar's
Cars - or hackneyed. What a shock: Disney's first black Princess film takes place in the American south, involves a conniving shyster villain, and the backing music is jazz/ragtime/blues. It's like... 1985 all over again:
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fthumb%2Fb%2Fbe%2FThe_Color_Purple_poster.jpg%2F220px-The_Color_Purple_poster.jpg&hash=8b18acf58f34624dfb98ad8bf670f8d1b6c64f72)
You don't think Disney's first black Princess deserved something more original? Less stereotypical? How is anything in this film progressive in the slightest if, at best, it's just tokenism?
Quote from: Peanutbutter on August 01, 2014, 08:43:06 PMQuote from: No-Personality on August 01, 2014, 03:25:20 PMQuote from: Peanutbutter on August 01, 2014, 10:19:43 AMAnd Frozen doesn't sound like Firework, that's a load of crap.
The song in question is "Let It Go." And, compare the two. Right now.
But, no need to take my word for it:
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=let+it+go+firework
HAHAHAHAHA!!!!! That was just the words from Let It Go played over Firework. That didn't prove anything. :lol:
I could play Gnarles Barkley's "Crazy" over "Rolling in the Deep" if I knew how to edit music, that doesn't make them the same song. Thanks for proving my point further. :awesome:
The vocals from "Let It Go" fit in the exact pattern of the music from "Firework," hitting all the exact same beats and breaks. Unless "Rolling in the Deep" and "Crazy" have the
exact same progression, they will not sound like the same song with the vocals of one laid over another. A mix like this - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7fAypgu3fU - proves that "Let It Go" fits exactly in "Firework." The progressions are not slight similarities - they are a Perfect Match. Because one is a copy of the other. What you should be doing is trying to arguing that "Firework" is already a copy. Which it might be, but "Firework" was a massive fucking hit. Literally massive. Not big. Massive. And Katy Perry arguably is a bigger star than
any other pop artist now, she clearly outsold everything Lady Gaga, Rihanna, Britney Spears, Ke$ha, and Miley have put out after 2009 with the album "Firework" was on. So, it's a big deal that these 2 songs are so similar. And if you actually think every 2 songs now-a-days are literally 100% perfect copycats of one another and would fit with vocals transposed to the EXACT instrumental of another- congratulations, you're officially more cynical than I am. Because, you see, how this usually works is that a producer may copy a piece of the sound of another song or slow / speed up the progression, add changes... "Let It Go" didn't change a thing.
If you're going to be so hateful, you don't deserve a full rebuttal. All I'll say is, just because it doesn't fit your overblown criteria doesn't make it garbage. Noni wasn't a token character, it's not she was paper thin, you're opinion about Princess and the Frog is utter B.S.
And my point about Let It Go flew over your head, so I'm not going to bother arguing that with you either. Pulling teeth would be better than trying to discussing anything with you around.
Quote from: Peanutbutter on August 02, 2014, 05:21:25 PMIf you're going to be so hateful, you don't deserve a full rebuttal. All I'll say is, just because it doesn't fit your overblown criteria doesn't make it garbage. Noni wasn't a token character, it's not she was paper thin, you're opinion about Princess and the Frog is utter B.S.
And my point about Let It Go flew over your head, so I'm not going to bother arguing that with you either. Pulling teeth would be better than trying to discussing anything with you around.
Absolutely nothing
flew over my head. You simply don't want to accept what I am saying...about a song in what is basically a children's film (and it feels like one since it lacks a great amount of genuine conflict and a true blue Disney villain). What possible reason you have for this, I can't even begin to fathom. But, if you're going to keep acting like a child about it, I don't fucking care. Do your worse and deny me a full rebuttal, I'll cry about it all night long. Really.
I hate to say "welcome to reality," but it is a stone cold fact that every single person who consumes media and has a brain since the dawn of time has had a heavily critical side when it comes to films they consider to be inauthentic, patronizing, lazy, boring, etc. I am well within my right to call films out for any thing in the book I think they are doing wrong. You think I'm hateful? Good way of trying to run from the responsibility of accepting that
Princess and the Frog might just be insulting to minorities. Which you only have to do if you're this hellbent on challenging me.
So, like I say to everyone around here: if you don't want to talk about this subject with me, don't reply. No one is forcing you to. I will have my say, you don't have to read it. No one is forcing you to.
So in the wake of JOgate, she badmouthed JewWario and called people who wear his hat in memoriam weirdos. That's sweet of her.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on August 03, 2014, 02:17:12 AMSo in the wake of JOgate, she badmouthed JewWario and called people who wear his hat in memoriam weirdos. That's sweet of her.
Got a screencap or link?
Quote from: Daikun on August 03, 2014, 02:55:50 AM
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on August 03, 2014, 02:17:12 AMSo in the wake of JOgate, she badmouthed JewWario and called people who wear his hat in memoriam weirdos. That's sweet of her.
Got a screencap or link?
Here's the tweet, and someone giving an explanation. (https://twitter.com/RealLordDalek/status/495809546875838465)
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on August 03, 2014, 02:17:12 AM
So in the wake of JOgate, she badmouthed JewWario and called people who wear his hat in memoriam weirdos. That's sweet of her.
Far as I'm concerned, she's nothing but scumbag now.
Wow, that's just....
It's like over the course of a few days she's somehow sunk from a low point to flat-out rock bottom. I definitely no longer wish to associate with her in any form. I've seen Lindsay say obnoxious things before, but JO bad mouthing a guy who lost his life over tragic circumstances makes Lindsay look like a saint.
Jeez, JO's gone nuts. I don't think it's because of her boyfriend either.
What's Nostalgia Chick done?
NC's Top 11 Trailers. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/44275-top-11-trailers)
Seriously, someone needs to tell Doug to try to stop talking for the majority.
Yeah, discussing trailers like that is almost as bad as mocking one of your friends who committed suicide less than a year ago.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on August 05, 2014, 05:48:18 PM
Yeah, discussing trailers like that is almost as bad as mocking one of your friends who committed suicide less than a year ago.
Uh, what?
I disagree with him on TDKR. I thought that the trailers sucked but the movie was better than I was lead to believe.
I wasn't really clear on why Bane wanted to follow Ra's al Ghul's plan to destroy Gotham, even though Gotham had apparently been cleaned up since Batman Begins. Other than that, I was also a fan of The Dark Knight Rises.
Y'no, Doug's #1 choice is a really good one, but I think this (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pazz3Cu_iGQ) is at least worth an honorable mention, as well.
Oh, and new Cinemadonna from Todd (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/tis/toddspecials/44288-cinemadonna-shanghai-surprise).
This week the NC takes on Small Soldiers. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/44357-small-soldiers)
Also, in light of his recent passing, Doug talks about Robin Williams' career and comedy. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/44365-doug-walker-on-robin-williams-comedy)
Doug reviews AVGN's movie. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n--Y8fXw5J4)
Doug said he'd do a review for it during Disneycember, and he lived to his word. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/44502-princess-diaries-2)
This week, the NC teams up with MikeJ to take a look at Ghost Rider 2. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/44662-ghost-rider-2)
What's odd is that I literally just re-watched the NC's Ghost Rider review the other day, and it is easily one of my favorites from this year. This one, on the other hand, came off more awkward in execution than anything else. I think that it can be attributed to NC's and MikeJ's styles not meshing too well, and in general the crossovers where he and the other reviewer are clearly recording their scenes completely separate from each other rather than in-person or talking live shows in how strange and uncoordinated the exchanges feel. Overall, I found this to be a "meh" review, despite having plenty of good material to make plenty of jokes off of with this film. At the very least I still liked the bits where the NC did his mock Cage voice to dub over certain scenes. That's always funny.
I liked Rachel's cameo, myself.
In a new episode of Brows Held High, Kyle unwittingly teams up with Some Jerk with a Camera to take a look at Jean Cocteau's masterpiece, La Belle et La Bete. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/oancitizen/brows-held-high/44672-beauty-and-the-beast-part-1)
Todd reviews new T-Swift. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/shake-it-off-by-taylor-swift-7031784)
This week the NC looks at his favorite cartoon and recalls it's 11 most....not so great episodes. (http://www.maker.tv/video/h4rMbxgKF5pr/maker/nostalgiacritic/series/nostalgiacritic)
First of all, HOLY SHIT at that ending cameo! I can't believe that they got him to be in the video, and what's more this will lead into next week's episode, which I'm really looking forward to now.
Secondly, I feel mixed about this list. I agree with some choices, but flat-out find Doug to be completely nuts for including others. This is especially true for #11, which is the most nit-picky bull-shit that I've ever seen. The episode was among the best, and just because they failed doesn't mean that it didn't have a point to it. With "The Boiling Rock Part I," the whole fun of it was being like a classic break-out of prison story, except this is one of the Fire Nation's most elite prisons, so it only makes sense that their first attempt would fail, otherwise it would make the prison seem like an utter joke. It also had plenty of great character moments for Sokka, Zuko, and Suki. The episode was fine, and did progress the story just fine. The NC was really stretching, here. Personally I would have included Avatar Day on this list, but for some reason the NC seems to be in love with that episode, even though it's really nothing that special either in its message or execution.
Anyways, I do agree with him about a few entries, like I said. Particularly "Sokka's Master" being one of them, which, while not a bad episode by any means, really wasn't needed. Sokka had already proven to be incredibly useful before that point, so it never made sense to me that he would all of a sudden be struck with an inferiority complex, which the show never really indicated or implied before this episode.
Anyways I don't know what my top 11 episodes would be, but I do know some that I want to see included on the NC's list, including: The Blind Bandit, Zuko Alone, The Drill, Tales of Ba Sing Se, The Avatar and the Fire Lord, The Day of Black Sun Part I and/or II, and The Boiling Rock Part II to make up for his folly in this list.
Quote from: Avaitor on September 14, 2014, 01:11:27 PM
Todd reviews new T-Swift. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/shake-it-off-by-taylor-swift-7031784)
I do like Taylor Swift and respect her more than most artists on the radio these days. She has a good voice, her music is distinguishable, and she writes her own music which is a big plus to me. Not to mention, you know an artist is doing
something right when nearly every teenage girl listens to her songs and says "This song was made for me!". That being said, her new song that's currently on the radio does nothing for me. Musically, it just feels so generic and dumbed down, a common thing with music nowadays that's just so tiring.
Yeah, I don't really get Doug's gripe with "Boiling Rock" part one. I thought the rest of the list was pretty spot-on, though, although I would have also put "Avatar Day" somewhere in there.
Next week should be a lot of fun, especially considering who's going to be guest starring in it.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on September 16, 2014, 12:09:10 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on September 14, 2014, 01:11:27 PM
Todd reviews new T-Swift. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/shake-it-off-by-taylor-swift-7031784)
I do like Taylor Swift and respect her more than most artists on the radio these days. She has a good voice, her music is distinguishable, and she writes her own music which is a big plus to me. Not to mention, you know an artist is doing something right when nearly every teenage girl listens to her songs and says "This song was made for me!". That being said, her new song that's currently on the radio does nothing for me. Musically, it just feels so generic and dumbed down, a common thing with music nowadays that's just so tiring.
Todd's review for "Shake It Off" is just SO good. I'm not really a fan of Taylor Swift's music, although I do agree that a lot of her biggest criticisms are bs. But I outright hated this song the moment I heard it, and Todd just rolled with it.
In general I'm just tired of radio music feeling so dumbed down. That Avicii song that was released within the last year, Wake Me Up, is obnoxious in its "let's manufacture this song to be played on a dance floor", and the less said about Ellie Goulding the better. Taylor Swift is a talented artist so it's kind of a shame that her latest song is so bad.
People can complain about Lorde all they want. But at least she's just doing what she wants to do and isn't catering to anything. You don't have to like her music, but you have to admit it's honest and expressive of herself. She's a complete breath of fresh air as far as I'm concerned.
In the first episode of the Nostalgia Chick's new "Loose Canon" series, she takes a look at the most remembered Transformers character not named Optimus Prime or Megatron - Starscream. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/team-nchick/nostalgia-chick/44764-starscream)
Personally, I'm glad to see she also thinks that Prime Starscream is the best one.
Part two of Oancitizen's "La Belle et la Bete" review. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/teamt/oancitizen/brows-held-high/44785-beauty-and-the-beast-part-2)
I didn't think this was going to be a three parter, but I've been enjoying everything he and the Jerk have been going into. I think this is easily one of his best reviews yet.
Todd just put out ANOTHER pop review. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/all-about-that-bass-by-meghan-trainor-a-pop-song-review-7037528) And it's another song that I can't stand!
But seriously, after my truck died and we got a great replacement car, we found one little flaw with the new car- it's 20 years old, and its stereo definitely is as well. No CD player and a shit iTunes jack! So for the past two weeks, since I can't drive without some music as company, I've had to stick to the radio, and since we only have 1 rock station and 1 oldies over here, I had to deal with a lot of top 40. So I've noticed as Taylor Swift and Megan Trainer held the top songs in the nation, as they became basically the only songs I'd end up hearing on the road. No fun.
I'm actually getting a new system installed in tomorrow, and after this, I'm done with the radio for a long ass time.
The Nostalgia Critic's Top 11 Avatar episodes list is now up! (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/44818-top-11-best-avatars-with-dante-basco)
Overall a pretty solid list. The only one I'm skeptical about is "The Ember Island Players," but he justified the choice well enough. I also really enjoyed the bits with Dante Basco as well, though it might have been nice if they talked about all the episodes together besides just the #1 pick.
That was a fun video. I think that Avaitor will really appreciate that reference at the end. :D
I actually agree with most of this list, although I'd probably replace 1 or 2 choices, and reorganize the list in a different order, but I do think that all of these are legitimately great episodes.
This isn't an official TGWTG video, but...
Mr. Plinkett "Responds" to Nostalgia Critic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nD-hdE8PLjo)
This is a pretty masterful edit of NC's Top 11 list with rebuttals from Plinkett's Star Wars reviews.
I like seeing Plinkett "respond" to Doug's top 2 choices. Ever since I saw that NC video, I couldn't understand why he put the opera house scene and the worlds as the top two choices. The worlds were all just hollow looking CGI, and Palpatine's "legend" that Doug speaks so highly of was most likely just a lie.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on September 28, 2014, 07:15:09 PMPalpatine's "legend" that Doug speaks so highly of was most likely just a lie.
That's kind of a hazy one, actually.
Sometime after
Episode III was released, there was a Star Wars novel called
Darth Plagueis, which chronicled his legend. (Also, he was killed by Palpatine.)
Then Disney bought Lucasfilm years later and dissolved the Expanded Universe from canon, so... :??: Take of that what you will.
Quote from: Daikun on September 28, 2014, 08:40:33 PM
Quote from: talonmalon333 on September 28, 2014, 07:15:09 PMPalpatine's "legend" that Doug speaks so highly of was most likely just a lie.
That's kind of a hazy one, actually.
Sometime after Episode III was released, there was a Star Wars novel called Darth Plagueis, which chronicled his legend. (Also, he was killed by Palpatine.)
Then Disney bought Lucasfilm years later and dissolved the Expanded Universe from canon, so... :??: Take of that what you will.
Was any of that ever canon, though? I feel like I remember Lucas himself saying that, in his mind, the story ends with Return of the Jedi (this was before Disney bought Lucasfilm).
You act as if George Lucas' word should be listened to.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on September 30, 2014, 03:40:09 PM
You act as if George Lucas' word should be listened to.
No, but I do recognize that fan fiction can be even worse than George Lucas could ever be. :P
How does the story ending with RotJ make something that happened well before the prequels non-canon?
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 30, 2014, 04:14:44 PM
How does the story ending with RotJ make something that happened well before the prequels non-canon?
I just meant the Expanded Universe in general. Like, I know there are stories that follow RotJ in the EU. When Lucas says that, to him, it ends with Jedi, to me it seems like he views the canon as not including the EU material.
Or maybe I just misinterpreted him.
I was really hoping that the Nostalgia Critic would cover Rose Red for his yearly Stephen King movie review this time, but his Maximum Overdrive episode was still pretty enjoyable. Besides, there's always next year, and no shortage of movies for him to pick on.
I'm generally not a fan of his Stephen King reviews (well, It was good, and his look at the Shining miniseries was also decent, but the Langoliers and Tommyknockers fell flat to me), but this was a fun one. I only really know the film by AC/DC's soundtrack, so I wasn't sure what to expect, but now I actually kind of want to see it.
Eh, I have to disagree with you, there. I loved all of his Stephen King reviews. Stephen King's "It" was his first and still his best, IMO, but I also enjoyed The Langoliers, Tommyknockers, as well as The Shining and this movie. I look forward to these every Halloween, myself.
This week, the NC counts down the Top 11 new Halloween classics. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/45099-top-11-new-halloween-classics)
This week, the NC forms a cliche 80's boy adventurers gang and looks at the "awesome" movie, Monster Squad. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/45206-monster-squad)
Also, I noticed that Toons These Days (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/ir/toons-these-days/45212-my-little-pony-friendship-is-magic) has been added to the site. I've been a fan of the shorts ever since they started, so it's neat to see the series become a part of TGWTG. Looks like they are only uploading archive episodes for now, though, but hopefully new ones will come soon.
I really liked this week's NC video. It's one of those really above average ones for me, though it can't explain why exactly. Something about the humor just worked really well this time for me. I will say that, while it was cool for him to have assembled his own group of 80's stereotype characters, none of the extras really did or said that much to justify them being there throughout the entire review. Putting that aside, though, most of the jokes really hit home for me, and I like it when the NC is looking at a movie for the campy fun that it is, which is refreshing from his usual demeanor of just bashing it with the cliche angry reviewer behavior. Granted that, he had that tone with his Maximum Overdrive review as well, but I thought that it was even funnier in this one.
Todd promises an Ariana Grande review, does Nicki Minaj instead. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/anaconda-a-pop-song-review-7073532) And not "Bang Bang".
Side by side comparison (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/45292-side-by-side-parody-comparison) of parody scenes from NC/Demo Reel with their original movie counterparts.
Guess what?
MORE COMMERCIALS! (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/nostalgia-critic/45455-rise-of-the-commercials)
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/fbe5c88b0940b750d07fd611c05f21dd/tumblr_nf3m9qXBKs1s46koto1_500.png)
Huh, okay. I might watch some of their Gravity Falls vlogs, since I'm more dedicated to it than AT or Avatar. And even though I'm not a big fan of Doug's Disneycember vids, I'll probably end up watching them anyway. I'm just glad that he's not doing the sequels yet.
YES! I figured that the prop in his Monster Squad review was a sign of things to come. ;D
Doug's Nausicaa Disneycember video (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/45931-disneycember-nausicaa) and the first Gravity Falls vlog (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/videolinks/thatguywiththeglasses/specials/45932-gravity-falls-tourist-trapped) are up.
The Disneycember vid was typically okay, but I'm not sure if I can sit through a 24 minute video of the Walkers talking about the first Gravity Falls ep. I sat through a couple of minutes, and while it was fun, I decided to save it for later (maybe) and work on my HIMYM review instead.
I love it when Disneycember rolls around. I'm not sure how many times I've gone back through the archives to watch them.
TGWTG is closing in 2 weeks. (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/site-news/general-updates/45946-channelawesomecom)
Not liking the look of the new website right now, but maybe it'll grow on me in time.
Anyway, this week The NC looks at that "beloved holiday classic," Grandma Got Run Over by a Reindeer. (http://channelawesome.com/nostalgia-critic-grandma-got-run-over-by-a-reindeer/)
In terms of easy navigation, it's WAY better than the old website, especially if you are trying to use it with a tablet or touch-screen device, which was infuriatingly hard to do on the dated style of the old website. Personally, I approve of the change. The layout is kind of bland, but I wasn't a big fan of the original site's layout, anyways.
While I thought the latest NC was only okay, the song at the end was glorious. Easily the best part of the review.
Heh, I remember watching this special on CN as far back as 10 years ago. It was so godawfully lazy, but somewhat entertaining in how poor its quality was. They also re-ran it a lot on that channel, so it was kind of hard for me to ignore it at the time.
Speaking of animated Christmas Specials based on songs/poems/lyrics of some kind, does anyone remmeber The Town Santa Forgot, based on the poem Jeremy Creek? It was an animated special that originally aired on NBC, but I saw it in syndication on CN as they regularly aired it during the holiday season each year for quite a while. I remember liking it quite a lot as a kid, though it has been ages since I've last seen it, so I can't say whether it really holds up or not.
I remember that being pretty okay, as well. Haven't seen it in ages, though.
But oh man, I remember NC's subject. I think I actually watched this a couple of times. It was so obnoxious that I couldn't help but stick around if I found it.
"Sign!"
"Sing?"
"No, I want you to sign!"
"That's fine, but I'd rather sing!"
Goddamn, that bit. Horrible in every meaning.
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 03, 2014, 07:49:47 PMSpeaking of animated Christmas Specials based on songs/poems/lyrics of some kind, does anyone remmeber The Town Santa Forgot, based on the poem Jeremy Creek? It was an animated special that originally aired on NBC, but I saw it in syndication on CN as they regularly aired it during the holiday season each year for quite a while. I remember liking it quite a lot as a kid, though it has been ages since I've last seen it, so I can't say whether it really holds up or not.
I've seen it multiple times. I still think it's a great special today.
It does feel like Cartoon Network is trying to make "Grandma Got Ran Over By A Reindeer" a holiday classic or something. This is like one of the few specials that get repeated over the month of December on CN, like every year. WHY CARTOON NETWORK?
I just saw that Doug did a Disneycember for The Black Hole. (http://channelawesome.com/disneycember-the-black-hole-4/)
It's been too long since I last saw this, so I can't recall if he screwed anything up here, but I had much of the same reaction that he did. This really isn't that good.
Quote from: Daxdiv on December 03, 2014, 10:23:03 PMIt does feel like Cartoon Network is trying to make "Grandma Got Ran Over By A Reindeer" a holiday classic or something. This is like one of the few specials that get repeated over the month of December on CN, like every year. WHY CARTOON NETWORK?
The special is copyrighted by WB, and they own Turner. It's a bullshit corporate mandate that they can't shake off.
Doug also did Castle in the Sky for Disneycember, which was pretty well done, but the one I really want to talk about is here- Something Wicked This Way Comes (http://channelawesome.com/disneycember-something-wicked-this-way-comes/). Well, I'm certainly a bigger fan than he is, and I only saw it for the first time in high school. But I really do appreciate the atmosphere behind the story, right down to Jonathan Price's excellent performance. It's a great adaptation of Bradbury's story.
New Todd. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/blank-space-by-taylor-swift-a-pop-song-review-7126384)
Wow, I feel like we had the same reaction to the song here. Compared to much of Taylor's stuff, I do think that "Blank Space" is a very well-written song, and a much better attack on critics than "Shake It Off"... but I heard this at least 20 times in the past weekend, thanks to my sister, and my appreciation for the song is completely null and void. Great review!
At one point, Blank Space was on three radio stations at the same time.
Honestly, I don't even think it's a particularly good song. Certainly 10x's better than Shake It Off, though.
This video is pretty important. (http://channelawesome.com/toons-these-days-pac-man-and-the-ghostly-adventures) Mr. Big's artwork is featured here.
Huh. That's neat.
I haven't been keeping up with Disneycember, but I wanted to see this one (http://channelawesome.com/disneycember-monsters-university/) when I found out that Doug wasn't a fan. In truth, I can't really argue with his thoughts on the movie, since it is a formulaic take on college films, and at the end of the day just isn't as unique of a family film experience as Pixar's best. I knew this the moment I saw it, and it's true, Monsters U isn't all that special.
But I like the original quite a bit more than Doug does, so that's probably why I like this better than him- I just like seeing Mike and Sully again (and Randall too, however briefly he appears). They're great characters, and I could just hear Billy Crystal and John Goodman voice them all day. There are also good jokes abound, and like Doug, I do appreciate the ending moral. The film isn't very special, but it's hardly horrible.
So, I was visiting the GeekNights forum and...
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FHghfpdC.jpg&hash=a79f86eed67a2fca1f96a247a87348c6e9e2abbf)
:whuh:
EDIT: Now at the CA forum. (http://channelawesome.com/forums/threads/dan-olsen-foldablehuman-folding-ideas-in-possession-of-and-sharing-child-pornography.52575)
Um, in regards to the forum link, people are debunking it. So I don't know that there's anything major with this.
EDIT: Oh, and the thread was closed. Yeah, this was bullcrap.
New Cinemadonna for Truth or Dare. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/cinemadonna-truth-or-dare-7131478)
Fun fact- one of the first dates my uncle and aunt went to was to see this movie.
What do you guys think of the Nostalgia Critic's two supporting actors (I think their names are Malcolm and Tamara)?
They're good actors, but I feel like a lot of NC's reviews would be better without their material.
I like them. They are solid and funny actors that play off of Doug very well, and I enjoy a lot of the skits the NC does with them in his reviews these days. I suppose that's an unpopular opinion around these parts, but I really do feel that they've gotten better and more entertaining over time.
Quote from: Cartoon X on December 29, 2014, 11:47:02 PMI like them. They are solid and funny actors that play off of Doug very well, and I enjoy a lot of the skits the NC does with them in his reviews these days. I suppose that's an unpopular opinion around these parts, but I really do feel that they've gotten better and more entertaining over time.
Pretty much this. People give the NC's skits way too much flak as it is. In all honesty, I think that they have gotten much better over time, and while people love to bitch and moan about how much better his older reviews were without them, a lot of those older reviews honestly haven't aged quite as well as most people seem to think though that has a lot to do with the meme and Internet reference-heavy nature of this show's humor. It only takes a few years for stuff like that to feel completely outdated.
I think they're fine too. The real problem is they can only do so much with some of the scripts Rob writes.
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 30, 2014, 12:01:58 AM
Quote from: Cartoon X on December 29, 2014, 11:47:02 PMI like them. They are solid and funny actors that play off of Doug very well, and I enjoy a lot of the skits the NC does with them in his reviews these days. I suppose that's an unpopular opinion around these parts, but I really do feel that they've gotten better and more entertaining over time.
Pretty much this. People give the NC's skits way too much flak as it is. In all honesty, I think that they have gotten much better over time, and while people love to bitch and moan about how much better his older reviews were without them, a lot of those older reviews honestly haven't aged quite as well as most people seem to think though that has a lot to do with the meme and Internet reference-heavy nature of this show's humor. It only takes a few years for stuff like that to feel completely outdated.
I just don't find the skits to be that entertaining. No offense to those actors, but at this point, when I open a Nostalgia Critic review I want to watch a Nostalgia Critic review. It's the same as Lindsey. I want to listen to what she has to say, not watch Nella and Elesa being unfunny (though I do like Malcolm and Tamara more than them).
I agree about how some of his old videos haven't aged too well. The Chuck Norris jokes, above all other things he did, are especially painful to me. I tend to wonder if he was the only person left in the world still making Chuck Norris jokes in the 2012. Those jokes started before I even got to high school.
I suppose I'm not the biggest TGWTG fan though, really.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on December 30, 2014, 05:43:21 PMI just don't find the skits to be that entertaining. No offense to those actors, but at this point, when I open a Nostalgia Critic review I want to watch a Nostalgia Critic review. It's the same as Lindsey. I want to listen to what she has to say, not watch Nella and Elesa being unfunny (though I do like Malcolm and Tamara more than them).
And his old style of reviewing isn't that funny either. His early reviews aside, they just got boring and tedious. We had tons of 20+ minute videos of him monologuing unfunny jokes about a movie, save for a few highlights in each episode. The average skits are funnier than most of his predictable and outdated content from 2010-2012, and if we're talking about not wanting to watch someone be unfunny, that's a far better example of it, IMO.
I still say that the NC was at its best as a show when he did shorter videos packed with better jokes, rather than doing longer videos and dragging them out just to meet some expected fan quotas (since a lot of his fans seem to believe that more is better). If you were talking about most of Doug's 2008-2009 videos being funnier than his new content, then I'd agree with you, because the jokes were better, the pacing and timing were better, and the jokes were less Internet meme heavy. But most of the stuff after that up to 2012 simply has not aged well, showing why I'm not a fan of meme humor in the first place. The actors took a while to get better, but there have been quite a few legitimately funny and entertaining skits, and while his episodes are still dragged out, at least the skits help them to feel far less monotonous than they used to.
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 30, 2014, 05:58:10 PM
And his old style of reviewing isn't that funny either. His early reviews aside, they just got boring and tedious. We had tons of 20+ minute videos of him monologuing unfunny jokes about a movie, save for a few highlights in each episode. The average skits are funnier than most of his predictable and outdated content from 2010-2012, and if we're talking about not wanting to watch someone be unfunny, that's a far better example of it, IMO.
I still say that the NC was at its best as a show when he did shorter videos packed with better jokes, rather than doing longer videos and dragging them out just to meet some expected fan quotas (since a lot of his fans seem to believe that more is better). If you were talking about most of Doug's 2008-2009 videos being funnier than his new content, then I'd agree with you, because the jokes were better, the pacing and timing were better, and the jokes were less Internet meme heavy. But most of the stuff after that up to 2012 simply has not aged well, showing why I'm not a fan of meme humor in the first place. The actors took a while to get better, but there have been quite a few legitimately funny and entertaining skits, and while his episodes are still dragged out, at least the skits help them to feel far less monotonous than they used to.
But what I was trying to get at in that last post was that, in both of those eras (2010-2012 and 2013-now) there is no point where I can call the Nostalgia critic a personal favorite. I may not be a fan of his skits, but I agree with you that his material from 2010 to 2012 isn't that good either. I never said that he was better in those days than he is currently.
That's all I can say, really. I'm not a big fan of the Nostalgia Critic as a whole. His first few years were fine, but I wasn't a fan of his meme heavy middle years, and I'm not a fan of his skit heavy current years.
I agree with you on that much. I'm a casual watcher of the NC because he's entertaining enough, but aside from his really early stuff when he wasn't really doing these videos as his job but just as a hobby, most of his stuff is just OK to me. I'm not really a big fan, but I do enjoy his material for what it is.
To be honest, I got burned out on angry Internet critic review shows a long time ago. These days I much prefer more informative and passionate review shows like The DVD Shelf Movie Reviews, SF Debris, and Good Bad Flicks.
I think the best angry reviews might be Plinket. Because he's not simply angry. He makes really good points in his videos, and his tone and characterization are so absurd in a darkly comedic way.
I was a huge Nostalgia Critic fan from 2008-mid 2011, but I've gradually been losing interest, for a few reasons:
-Too long of running times. The older reviews were 15 minutes, 20 minutes at most. As a result, they were faster-paced/edited and didn't wear out their welcome.
-The skits. A few of them have been clever, but most of the time I've not been a big fan and feel they only pad the running time. Malcolm typically does a good job, though.
-The choices of movies he's reviewed has gotten worse. I've said this before, but I'm less than thrilled when he reviews newer movies. Call me a stickler, but when I watch something called The NOSTALGIA Critic, I want to see something from the time period when he and I were both young and see if it holds up. When I see him reviewing stuff like Alice in Wonderland, Sharknado, Ponyo, After Earth, and Wicker Man, I feel like he's missed the point of his own show. I've voluntarily skipped over quite a few reviews in the last two years because of this.
-Crossovers. Again, I know people are going to roll their eyes at this because I've mentioned this many times, but I've rarely liked the reviews where NC reviews it with somebody. Especially when they're doing it remotely so they're not even in the same room.
-Lack of Old vs. New and Raiders of the Story Arc, two types of episodes that kept things fresh and mixed it up. Yes, he did that Old vs. New of Spider-Man, but that's literally the -only- one since 2012.
I -have- been enjoying some of the editorials, though. I haven't watched all of them; there are some with subject matter that doesn't interest me, but the ones that DO interest me have been generally well-done.
It's official, the Nostalgia Chick is retired. (http://namebrandlindsay.com/2015/01/10/farewell-channel-awesome-and-a-pre-emptive-faq/)
I don't think anyone should be surprised, since this has been a long time coming. And according to Lindsay, she's not exactly done with videos, just material from CA and the title of the Chick. Whatever she thinks is for the best.
I had a feeling she was going to retire soon. Her video output has been very scarce lately and her work is no doubt keeping her busy. This is probably for the best.
Bye, Lindsay.
...By the way, isn't it about time we change the name of this thread? The site isn't called TGWTG anymore. Does Doug even refer to himself as that?
I went ahead and changed it. This is henceforth the Channel Awesome discussion thread.
Phelous is leaving too. Lindsay had some videos I liked, but I just couldn't get past Phelous' annoying voice.
Oh, and in slightly related news, a certain classless individual we know decided to chime in about it.
Quotehttps://twitter.com/JesuOtaku
I see TGWTG is finally collapsing in on its own asshole as a producer has now quit and been eradicated from the site within a day.
Good riddance. The day's probably not long off where everyone who "worked" there can just be super-candid about the horrible experience.
Yes, I know not *everyone* at TGWTG has had a horrible experience. The number of people who have is S T A G G E R I N G tho. Truth.)
JO is steadily declining into a crazy cat lady.
Phelous too? Wow.
How many of the original TGWTG pickups are even left? Good thing they did a talent call recently, or they'd be in the gutter by year's end.
EDIT: Andrew Dickman has also left.
I mean, maybe there is some stuff that's happened behind the scenes. With JO though, she could just be bitter about what happened around Spoony's departure. She's treated her own fans like dirt, so I won't have sympathy for her no matter what supposedly the Channel Awesome execs did.
After some speculation at the forum, it seems Lupa was let go from the site. She explains why. (http://obscuruslupa.tumblr.com/post/108008749157/bye-ca)
EDIT: Oancitizen is gone, too! Holy shit!
JO attitude about that makes me wonder how much of that tabloid info that /tv/ posts from time to time is true or not about all the other people on the site. I know better not to listen to tabloids, but I do always find that one image where a random anon claimed to be a camera guy for one of the movies and claiming how incompetent most of those people were when it came to filming their stuff.
I know nothing of CA/TGWTG, but Lupa's Tumblr post Daikun linked to leads me to believe that the site probably was an absolutely terrible place to work for. Regardless of the competence of the video makers, Mike's behavior sounds completely unprofessional, and being paid in "exposure" is disgusting.
Man, CA is falling apart bit by bit. I have a feeling that even more people will be leaving in the coming weeks and months. From the way Lupa describes it I'm just surprised this hasn't happened sooner.
Quote from: Daikun on January 13, 2015, 04:26:08 PM
After some speculation at the forum, it seems Lupa was let go from the site. She explains why. (http://obscuruslupa.tumblr.com/post/108008749157/bye-ca)
That explanation is Phealous'. Lupa just linked it.
EDIT:
Okay, now I see her post.
Oancitizen's out, too. (http://channelawesome.com/a-parting-of-ways/)
Notice how the site elaborates nothing as to their departures.
So, as someone who has only been watching Doug (and that's sparingly) and Mike J for about the last year and a half, I'm not really sure what's going on. I stopped watching everyone else years ago, but this sounds sucky. From Lupa's post, it sounds like ever since they've tried making the site and content more professional, they've (Doug, Rob, and this Mike guy she mentions) been complete dicks to all the other content makers. Am I reading this thing right?
It's interesting when Lupa mentions about how anyone who says anything is labeled a "troublemaker". If you read Lindsey's goodbye, she vaguely alludes to the incident, with something along the lines of "If anyone else is fired, that's their story to tell".
It's kind of a shame, really. I always figured everyone was getting a cut. I'll definitely keep up with some of these guys in the future, like Lindsey and Phelous, as I like their content. I do now kind of feel even less obligated to visit TGWTG/Channel Awesome than before, I must say.
Quote from: Avaitor on January 13, 2015, 05:18:26 PM
Oancitizen's out, too. (http://channelawesome.com/a-parting-of-ways/)
Notice how the site elaborates nothing as to their departures.
They've been Future Endeavored! It's like looking at people being released from the WWE or something. Though, it does make me wonder how long these people can stay afloat with Patreon and shit. I mean, you can't really expect to make a living as an internet reviewer for the rest of your life. That and I would assume that if you like a lot of people and you have limited funds, you will have to end up picking and choosing whom to give money to.
http://channelawesome.com/a-parting-of-ways/
QuoteChannel Awesome would like to announce that Andrew Dickman, Kyle Kallgren (Oancitizen), Allison Pregler (Obscurus Lupa) and Phelan Porteus (Phelous) have parted ways with us. We wish them the best.
That's all they have to say on the matter. They could have at least said "Channel Awesome
regrets to announce...".
EDIT:
Avaitor beat me to it. :P
Dang, pretty crazy that even Kyle is leaving. I don't know about Doug, but Mike Michaud sure sounds like he's gone crooked. It doesn't surprise me that much to hear this I'm sad to say. I mean, we're talking about the same site where they had a known jackass like Distressed Watcher/Amazing Atheist who lasted on the site for no less than like a year and a half despite utterly sucking and eventually hemorrhaging viewers for no other reason than one of the other producers was a fan/personal friend of his.
So yeah, there's a history of cliqueness there. I'll keep watching Doug, but I hope this is the end of all this drama for now.
Reading up on all this news has really made me consider to stop visiting the site altogether. I can always check out most of the stuff I like on there elsewhere anyways. I'm not sure if I even feel like watching the NC's stuff anymore, since Doug shares blame for a lot of this mismanagement as well. Things need to change with how Channel Awesome treats it's people stat.
Whatever part Doug has played, I don't think he was screwing people over. Not intentionally at least. Right now, I think Mike Michaud is the main problem. It'd be nice if CA fans banded together and got him to step down but I don't know how likely that is.
Quote from: Peanutbutter on January 13, 2015, 06:36:19 PM
Dang, pretty crazy that even Kyle is leaving. I don't know about Doug, but Mike Michaud sure sounds like he's gone crooked. It doesn't surprise me that much to hear this I'm sad to say. I mean, we're talking about the same site where they had a known jackass like Distressed Watcher/Amazing Atheist who lasted on the site for no less than like a year and a half despite utterly sucking and eventually hemorrhaging viewers for no other reason than one of the other producers was a fan/personal friend of his.
So yeah, there's a history of cliqueness there. I'll keep watching Doug, but I hope this is the end of all this drama for now.
If Hope is to be believed, she said that Doug is quite the passive person and it's really Rob & Mike that are the more aggressive. This is taken from the Something Awful forums.
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FsH9nm90.png&hash=a81422466f6716148553ef00f187630702156875)
I wouldn't be surprised about Rob, because he has come across as a douche plenty of times before. The way I hear it, he apparently couldn't take any criticism of Kickassia. I doubt very seriously Doug would actively screw anyone over, which is I don't plan on boycotting him or Channel Awesome. I'm sure not going to blame anyone who does though.
I'm at least going to skip Matrix month, since I wasn't interested to begin with.
Doug really should have known better, though. Yeesh.
One wonders how long Linkara's got when Michaud finds out Lovhaug has just been using TGWTG as a glorified video mirror for a year.
Linkara kind of makes it seem like that's not an issue. (http://atopfourthwall.tumblr.com/post/108020599623) Which isn't surprising, since he's always been one of the biggest acts on the site.
And when confronted, Doug proves to be passive. (https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=811599428906520&id=127127037353766&comment_id=811609002238896&offset=0&total_comments=6)
Quote from: Avaitor on January 14, 2015, 09:37:02 AM
Linkara kind of makes it seem like that's not an issue. (http://atopfourthwall.tumblr.com/post/108020599623) Which isn't surprising, since he's always been one of the biggest acts on the site.
And when confronted, Doug proves to be passive. (https://m.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=811599428906520&id=127127037353766&comment_id=811609002238896&offset=0&total_comments=6)
Well, I can understand Doug not wanting to get into any drama on his Facebook about it because that's really not the right place for it. But he or Rob are going to have to say something to address all this, because more and more fans will find out about this and they're just going to get angry at them.
Oancitizen's response to his departure. (http://kylekallgren.tumblr.com/post/108118690279/a-farewell-to-awesome)
It seems like the issues other producers are having with the Walkers and Mike Michaud isn't the same as the Chez Apocalypse people. I wonder if Todd's going to leave soon, as well.
The first part of Todd's Top Ten worst hit songs of 2014 list is up. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/the-top-ten-worst-hit-songs-of-2014-part-1-7142479)
Also, Lindsay has a new Loose Canon episode up. This one looks at the various interpretations of Hades in select film and television over the years. (http://chezapocalypse.com/episodes/loose-canon-hades-lord-of-the-underworld/)
I like Shake it Off despite it's dumb lyrics, and I like Ariana Grande(though I guess she's technically not on the list... yet), but everything else is spot on. Another year of insufferable country music, and I've never heard the Five Seconds of Summer song, but that comparison to Simple Plan was more than apt.
"Shake It Off" is my worst song of 2014.
Part 2 is up, and I'm watching now. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/top-ten-worst-hit-songs-of-2014-pt-2-7142679)
Quote from: Avaitor on January 19, 2015, 12:43:55 PM
"Shake It Off" is my worst song of 2014.
That and Bang Bang, which I'm pretty sure is also 2014.
It's amazing that Iggy Azalea has caught on the way she has, there's nothing appealing about her at all. And not in a Miley Cyrus type way either, at least she has a singing voice. You remember the Big Book of British Smiles from Last Exit To Springfield? That's the type of unappealing Iggy Azalea is.
Actually, Rude was 2014. That's my choice for worst, without any doubt.
Todd's #1 choice wasn't a surprise at all, and really, it isn't a bad choice.
Viggle viggle viggle viggle
It's terrible and continues the annoying whistling trend in music.
The Skype chats with Mike Michaud. (http://imgur.com/a/K8Xe4)
The first part of Todd's top ten "best" hit songs of 2014 is up. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/top-ten-best-hit-songs-of-2014-pt-1-7149346)
I had no idea Todd was from VA Beach.
I'm almost done with part 1, but here is part 2. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/top-ten-best-hit-songs-of-2014-pt-2-7149695)
I don't like any of the songs in part 1, honestly.
You can tell Todd doesn't like 'em much either.
I like "Happy," myself, but I don't care for the rest at all.
I like Weird Al's parody of that song.
The top 5 had some stuff I'm more into, though. "Chandelier" and "Uptown Funk" kick ass.
The chorus of Chandelier is phenomenal. I do think the rest of the song is kind of weak, but the chorus makes it worth listening to.
What other songs are in those videos?
Finished the second part. Better stuff, definitely. I quite enjoy "Rather Be" and "Uptown Funk" and "Chandelier" is also pretty good. But man, 2014 really was a terrible year on the whole.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on February 01, 2015, 01:25:34 PM
What other songs are in those videos?
Watch them and find out!
With Matrix Month over, Doug takes a look at a controversial ending to a Tom and Jerry cartoon.
blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nc-did-tom-and-jerry-kill-themselves-7156933
Pretty sure Blue Cat Blues isn't banned from TV, don't know about recent airings but I've definitely seen it before on Cartoon Network and Boomerang(also note these are the only two networks that show Tom and Jerry anymore). Don't think any of the T&J's are officially banned by either network(unlike many Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies shorts), although certain cartoons like His Mouse Friday and Mouse Cleaning rarely, if ever, are shown.
Ah, "Blue Cat Blues." I haven't seen that short in forever, but it's one of the T&J shorts I have a really strong memory of because I used to see it frequently as a kid. I've never heard of this theory before, though.
Now CA is truly fucked. (http://channelawesome.com/forums/threads/blip-may-be-closing-soon.53146)
Looks like the end is nigh. The bubble had to burst sometime.
The sad thing is that this seems to be affecting The DVD Shelf Movie Reviews as well. :whuh:
They might survive if they go back to using YouTube primarily through extensively promoting the League of Super Critics channel, or more likely find a different video site that won't screw them over. This mess with Blip and CA reminds me of when WWE backed Tout instead of Vine when they tried to expand their social media output. Another case of backing the wrong horse. I always felt Blip was a crappy service for them to use.
New Todd. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/jealous-by-nick-jonas-7161267)
It really picks up after a so-so start. Todd is so dead-on with this song.
How did I know it was gonna be that song?
Here's Doug's first non-Matrix review (since last week's was an editorial). It's Mamma Mia!.
http://channelawesome.com/mamma-mia-nostalgia-critic/
I know I'm late to the party, but lately I've been getting into SomeJerkWithACamera now that he's joined CA. Tony Goldmark is awesome! He's a funny dude and his subject matter is like a breath of fresh air among the other CA reviewers. I applaud him just for not being the umptee-seventh movie reviewer on the internet. Don't get me wrong, some online movie critics do a great job (they all do it 20 times times better than I ever could, but I'm not a movie buff, so...) but movie reviewers are a dime a dozen on the internet. How many people are reviewing theme parks? It helps that Tony knows his facts and is funny as shit. He's easily the best new addition to Channel Awesome, IMPO.
I kind of like iRawss (The Good Hook, Comedism) and Shark Jumping with Tim & Beth; I've only seen 1 of Calluna's vids so far, but I thought it was pretty good. I tried giving The Yomarz Show a chance, but he just doesn't do it for me; he's clearly trying to mimic the likes of JonTron and Peanut Butter Gamer without being nearly as funny as they are. There's more to doing a decent game review, even a comedic one, than just picking on obviously shitty game and saying "This game is shitty!". Il Niege is OK, but he's yet another movie critic. he's at least kind of funny.
The rest of the influx of CA's new contributors I just haven't bothered with; not out of spite or dissing, just that there's far too many of them for me to get into, and a lot of them tend to blur together to me. TBH, I've kind of soured on CA a bit since what went down with Phelous and Obscurus Lupa; now both of them as well as Andrew Dickman are off the site and on Phelous.com now. Sucks, since they were always 2 of the funniest contributors to the site, but the higher-ups treated them like crap when they were there, so I don't blame them for leaving (in Allison's case, she was let go). The Nostalgia Critic is hit-or-miss nowadays; he can be very funny at times, but lately he's gotten kind of full of himself, he's trying to be way too analytical rather than funny and he tends to stretch his sketches and stories out for way too long.
Nowadays I go to CA for Linkara, Brad, SomeJerk, IRawss, Mike J, Shark Jumping, Todd, Rap Critic, CR! (when he does something; his output has become really sporadic lately) and NC. I think CA tried to get way too big way too soon, and now they're starting to buckle under their own weight. It was better when it was just a small circle of friends making entertaining videos about their favorite subjects and occasionally crossing over into each others' videos. Nowadays CA seems more like a YouTube kind of deal.
While I don't mind the sketches, myself, I do agree that Doug has gotten way too over-analytical with his reviews. It often ends up killing any humor that his jokes would have otherwise had going for them.
The sketches and stories Doug incorporates into his reviews are fine, when they stay on point and aren't dragged out for too long. As you say, when he drags them out for so long and tries to get super-deep and analytical with them, that's when they become a hindrance to my enjoyment of his videos. I'm not big on the analysis, so a lot of the NC Editorials are hard for me to sit through; thankfully they're short. It's like with Linkara; his reviews, commentary and jokes are great, but I just can't get into the stories he sticks on to his reviews. They're too long and irrelevant to the reviews. Same deal with The Blockbuster Buster. Of course it's worth mentioning that I'm generally not a big fan of narrative, especially ongoing narrative, in these internet videos to start with.
Some Jerk is great! I really wish he would put out some new episodes soon (he's only been uploading his backlog episodes onto CA so far).
The only CA reviewers who I regularly check out these days (as in, always watch the new episode) are the NC, Todd, and Linkara. Everyone else I tend to leave for a while and then watch a bunch of their videos all at once some point later on.
I only ever (somewhat) kept up with the Nostalgia Critic, the Nostalgia Chick, and Phelous (Lupa is fine as well, but I didn't follow her as much). Now, two of them are off the site, and I don't really keep up with the other much anymore. So basically, I don't follow this site now.
Quote from: Cartoon X on February 22, 2015, 10:27:29 AM
Some Jerk is great! I really wish he would put out some new episodes soon (he's only been uploading his backlog episodes onto CA so far).
I think I remember Tony saying he'd start uploading new videos in March. He's still got 2 more TGIF Goes to Disney World vids to go (
Boy Meets World and
Sabrina); we'll likely begin seeing new stuff from him after that. I know these videos are already on Blip, but I don't want to spoil them for myself. I haven't seen any of these yet, so they're new to me. :blush:
Gravity Falls vlogs are back! (http://channelawesome.com/gravity-falls-vlogs-northwest-manor-mystery)
I about lost it when they did the Gargoyles skit in The Haunted Mansion review. Definitely a highlight for me.
It's been a year, but Some Jerk with a Camera is finally back with a new review! And now he's covering Universal rides! (http://channelawesome.com/some-jerk-back-to-the-future-the-ride-part-i/)
This is a pretty good video, but I wonder why Tony isn't going to Disney anymore. Or if he just chose to play that up instead.
Tons of good stuff, though. The Zemeckis crossover is gold.
Nostalgia Critic teams up with the Angry Video Nerd to take on the recent Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles remake.
http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nc-and-avgn-teenage-mutant-ninja-turtles-2014-7182501
While not quite that funny in terms of the jokes, I really enjoyed all of their references to their past Turtles reviews.
Did anyone else watch the first episode of that game show thing they've been saying they were going to make since 2013?
I did, and good lord, it's pretty awful. Tediously-paced, the comedy was mean-spirited and unfunny, the set looks bland and cheap, Brad seems completely unenthusiastic to be the host, and the entire experience just seems unpleasant for everyone involved. I feel sorry for the people who funded this thing on Indiegogo. I think the backlash for this will be as big, if not bigger, than it was for Demo Reel.
They got nearly $90k on the IndieGogo, and this was the best they could do? :wth:
Asalieri (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fhaOsIIU54) and LordKaT (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUGqtkZVeOQ) nailed it; the whole thing was a scam.
Quote from: Daikun on April 06, 2015, 02:26:39 AM
They got nearly $90k on the IndieGogo, and this was the best they could do? :wth:
Asalieri (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fhaOsIIU54) and LordKaT (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lUGqtkZVeOQ) nailed it; the whole thing was a scam.
Well, LordKat did. I wouldn't credit that stalker piece of crap with anything, personally.
Quote from: Peanutbutter on April 06, 2015, 09:32:06 AM
Well, LordKat did. I wouldn't credit that stalker piece of crap with anything, personally.
Who is LordKat? Are they the stalker or someone else...?
Quote from: Foggle on April 06, 2015, 11:31:26 AM
Who is LordKat? Are they the stalker or someone else...?
LordKat is an ex-Channel Awesome contributor who now dedicates his time to making tediously long live streams ranting about how much he hates the site and the people associated with it. The stalker Peanutbutter is referring to is Asalieri, who....well, this sums it up. (http://douchebagsoftheinternet.blogspot.com/2011/07/asalieri-logic-is-illogical.html)
IMO, both are unpleasant people whose opinions aren't worth a damn.
Oh... oh my. Will avoid both of them then, thanks.
Quote from: Cartoon X on April 06, 2015, 11:47:15 AMThe stalker Peanutbutter is referring to is Asalieri, who....well, this sums it up. (http://douchebagsoftheinternet.blogspot.com/2011/07/asalieri-logic-is-illogical.html)
I've been watching Asa for years. Wow, this blog post is wrong on so many accounts it's not even funny. Reading that thing comes off as whining, and there are many lies I can spot in it.
EDIT: It's the only post in that entire blog. Yeah, it's just there to stir up hate.
I watched the quiz show out of curiosity. It was pretty boring over all. The layout reminds me of something I would see people in high school/college students doing for a project/fair/event around their school. Was Demo Reel even that bad compared to this train wreck?
Quote from: Daxdiv on April 06, 2015, 04:57:41 PMI watched the quiz show out of curiosity. It was pretty boring over all. The layout reminds me of something I would see people in high school/college students doing for a project/fair/event around their school. Was Demo Reel even that bad compared to this train wreck?
No. Demo Reel had production values. This stupid thing couldn't even afford a decent mic beyond that $10 piece of crap that Brad was using.
Oh, wait. Yes, they could. They got nearly
ninety grand.
Quote from: Cartoon X on April 06, 2015, 11:47:15 AM
Quote from: Foggle on April 06, 2015, 11:31:26 AM
Who is LordKat? Are they the stalker or someone else...?
LordKat is an ex-Channel Awesome contributor who now dedicates his time to making tediously long live streams ranting about how much he hates the site and the people associated with it. The stalker Peanutbutter is referring to is Asalieri, who....well, this sums it up. (http://douchebagsoftheinternet.blogspot.com/2011/07/asalieri-logic-is-illogical.html)
IMO, both are unpleasant people whose opinions aren't worth a damn.
Yes, what you said. I only agreed with LordKat since he did work with Channel Awesome, but yeah he's a creep for a different reason. I refuse to acknowledge the latter whenever possible.
Seven seconds into the video, you can see the studio light. :blush:
I didn't really hate Demo Reel. It wasn't all that funny, but it had its moments and some potential. But I have no interest in this.
I agree with LordKat sometimes, but I agree that he spends too much time mudslinging the site to be in any way likable, or someone I'd subscribe to. Ever since he left CA, the only times I ever, ever see someone bring him up is when he has some shit-talking to do about the site. A shame really. I don't even know what else he does since he left.
So which people who left CA didn't go crazy?
Here's Doug's thoughts on The Dark Age of Movies (The mid-to-late 90s).
http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nc-the-dark-age-of-movies-7185778
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 06, 2015, 09:40:35 PM
So which people who left CA didn't go crazy?
I was never a fan of them, but Lupa and Phelous seem to fit this bill.
And Lindsey's still saner than pretty much all of them.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on April 08, 2015, 08:49:34 PM
And Lindsey's still saner than pretty much all of them.
I've hung out with Lindsay a couple of times, we have a friend in common. She's cool.
Doug finally starts his Over the Garden Wall vlogs! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3j4HTtdZyj0) ;D
Lindsay's got a new Loose Canon episode up. This one's on Captain America. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZknp9aFM3c)
I've got to disagree with her about AEMH being unremarkable. Other than that, it's a pretty decent retrospective.
This week the Nostalgia Critic takes on Demolition Man. (http://channelawesome.com/nostalgia-critic-demolition-man/)
Love that movie. I might have to actually start watching some of these videos...
This week the NC counts down his Top 11 favorite Animaniacs episodes! (http://channelawesome.com/nostalgia-critic-top-11-animaniacs-episodes/)
Todd lists the Top Ten Worst Hit Songs of 1991. (http://channelawesome.com/todd-in-the-shadows-the-top-ten-worst-hit-songs-of-1991/)
Todd's spiel on Bryan Adams more than makes the whole thing. I felt exactly the as he did after I discovered that Adams demanded that AllMusic took all references to him off their set.
The other (http://channelawesome.com/some-jerk-back-to-the-future-the-ride-part-ii/) parts of (http://channelawesome.com/some-jerk-back-to-the-future-the-ride-part-iii/) Some Jerk's BTTF ride video are up. I'm waiting for part 3 to load right now.
Doug interviews Tommy Wiseau. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ-JgRJDadE)
It's as amazing as it sounds.
Quote from: Avaitor on May 01, 2015, 04:01:37 PM
The other (http://channelawesome.com/some-jerk-back-to-the-future-the-ride-part-ii/) parts of (http://channelawesome.com/some-jerk-back-to-the-future-the-ride-part-iii/) Some Jerk's BTTF ride video are up. I'm waiting for part 3 to load right now.
I've already watched them. I could've done without some of the running gags and story bits, but I enjoyed the main review itself. And I'm quite looking forward to his next one (http://channelawesome.com/some-jerk-the-simpsons-ride-teaser/).
Quote from: Cartoon X on May 01, 2015, 04:04:07 PM
Doug interviews Tommy Wiseau. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ-JgRJDadE)
It's as amazing as it sounds.
This is incredible.
Quote from: Avaitor on May 01, 2015, 04:10:24 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on May 01, 2015, 04:04:07 PM
Doug interviews Tommy Wiseau. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQ-JgRJDadE)
It's as amazing as it sounds.
This is incredible.
Wow, guess they buried the hatchet.
This week, the NC reviews the Ewoks cartoon. (http://channelawesome.com/nostalgia-critic-the-ewoks-cartoon/)
Also, Doug's Shut Up and Talk with Dante Basco is finally out! (http://channelawesome.com/shut-up-and-talk-dante-basco/)
Some Jerk's review of The Simpsons Ride is now up! (http://channelawesome.com/some-jerk-the-simpsons-ride/)
Doug has also started doing vlogs for Daredevil. (http://channelawesome.com/netflixs-daredevil-vlogs-episode-1/) Steven Universe vlogs are also coming sometime soon.
Quote from: Cartoon X on May 08, 2015, 02:18:20 PM
Some Jerk's review of The Simpsons Ride is now up! (http://channelawesome.com/some-jerk-the-simpsons-ride/)
Doug has also started doing vlogs for Daredevil. (http://channelawesome.com/netflixs-daredevil-vlogs-episode-1/) Steven Universe vlogs are also coming sometime soon.
He's doing Steven Universe soon? Awesome! I was thinking he should do SU, I have a feeling he'll enjoy it a lot. Just hope he reviews it well, I haven't seen all of his Gravity Falls vlogs and I know there's mixed reviews of them.
I'm finally watching Some Jerk's Simpsons Ride review.
WHOO TAXI THE RIDE WHOO
New One Hit Wonderland. (http://channelawesome.com/one-hit-wonderland-st-elmos-fire-man-in-motion-by-john-parr/)
Man, there really haven't been too many noticeable songs in the top 40 lately, have there? Maybe by the time summer fully kicks in, Todd will have some Pop Song Review material.
New WTR: http://blip.tv/nostalgiacritic/nc-cowboys-of-moo-mesa-7195824
I never watched that cartoon, but I distinctly remember playing the arcade game (which was a shoot-em-up, IIRC) every time that we went to our local Pizza Hut back where my family and I used to live.
New Pop Song Review! (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/thinking-out-loud-by-ed-sheeran-a-pop-song-review-7197123)
I do not like this song, so I'm interested.
Eww gross.
This week, the NC reviews Sharkboy and Lavagirl. (http://channelawesome.com/nostalgia-critic-sharkboy-and-lavagirl/)
I haven't seen any of Robert Rodriguez's children's films before, but Jesus Christ! Is that shit really from the same guy who directed El Mariachi, Desperado, From Dusk Till Dawn, and Sin City? I mean, I knew that it was bad, but I didn't know that it was THIS BAD! :whuh:
Anything for his kids. :thinkin:
Who names their kid "Racer?" It's like you're asking for them to be bullied or something.
I might name my kid something mean so he can become Daredevil.
This week, the NC wonders how the critically panned 1980's sitcom, Small Wonder, managed to last four whole seasons. (http://channelawesome.com/nostalgia-critic-wtr-small-wonder/)
Also, CR is finally back with a new Familiar Faces! This week, he takes a look at one of DC's most obscure characters, The Geek. (http://channelawesome.com/familiar-faces-the-geek/)
New WTR - Sam & Max: Freelance Police (http://channelawesome.com/nostalgia-critic-wtr-sam-and-max-freelance-police/)
New Cinemadona - Body of Evidence (http://channelawesome.com/cinemadonna-body-of-evidence/).
This week, the NC reviews Jurassic World (http://channelawesome.com/nostalgia-critic-jurassic-world/), and in a..."unique" change of pace, does it without using any clips from the movie!
Not sure why he felt the need to review this when it's still in theaters. I'm guessing he justifies in the vid, but the site isn't loading for me.
His reason is because big studios kept getting his videos removed from YouTube and some other sites since apparently some of them think that his negative reviews hurt their profits or something like that (which doesn't really make any sense for the older Jurassic Park movies that he reviewed). So as a big "fuck you" to them, he decided to review this movie while it was still in theaters and get by any copyright issues by not using any footage from the film, but instead using his standard skits in place of actual movie scenes.
The review itself was a bit of a mess, IMO, but I did really love the Honest Trailers crossover at the end.
Ah, okay. That explains it. Some people I've seen elseware have been going a little overboard on Doug saying how's still pushing Demo Reel, can't move on from its failure, and how his releasing this is somehow him trying to show off his genius. I can understand not liking the review if it sucked, but those reactions are annoying.
I'll watch the review tomorrow.
Steven Universe vlogs are a-go. (http://channelawesome.com/steven-universe-vlogs-episode-1-gem-glow/)
Though he's started it out of order, probably because that's how they on the dvds. They should really have checked a listing of the eps before they started it.
Quote from: Cartoon X on June 28, 2015, 08:18:02 AM
Steven Universe vlogs are a-go. (http://channelawesome.com/steven-universe-vlogs-episode-1-gem-glow/)
Though he's started it out of order, probably because that's how they on the dvds. They should really have checked a listing of the eps before they started it.
I have the DVD, and yes it's the first one. It should be noted though that Laser Light Cannon is the actual first episode though; it was the first one produced.
New Todd, as he takes on "Dear Future Husband" (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/dear-future-husband-by-meghan-trainor-a-pop-song-review-7204257)
Cheese.
All her songs sound the same. It's amazing she's catching on.
Here's something I did't now- Lindsay and Todd have been broken up for a while now. (http://lindsayetumbls.tumblr.com/post/123045263323/hey-lindsay-just-wondering-how-you-and-todd-met)
I can see why they kept that on the down low. Dumbass fans might've flipped out at them if they had known sooner. Nice that they're still good friends.
It's funny to point out since MRAs are STILL digging at Todd for thinking that Lindsay speaks for both of them, or whatever.
Also, she's getting a little more vocal about how she didn't like the TGWTG anniversary movies. Good on her for that.
Quote from: Avaitor on July 02, 2015, 03:03:06 PM
Also, she's getting a little more vocal about how she didn't like the TGWTG anniversary movies. Good on her for that.
I watched all three of those recently. They're so, so,
so bad. :whuh:
Every time Doug Walker tries to knock TDKR or some other movie that I like, I always quietly think to myself: "at least they are more watchable than the garbage that you wasted money on producing," and that makes it easier to ignore his opinions.
Their anniversary specials are the god damn worst. Way too unfunny and self-congratulatory for me.
Just... review. Do some funny skits sometimes and review. You don't need to do some over-the-top, convoluted mini-movie. Not like it really matters though. I haven't touched the site since the whole debacle with people being kicked out unceremoniously and the game show coming off as a scam.
Quote from: Avaitor on July 02, 2015, 03:03:06 PM
Also, she's getting a little more vocal about how she didn't like the TGWTG anniversary movies. Good on her for that.
I remember someone telling me that Lindsey and Doug got into some arguments during the first movie, since you know, Lindsey actually went to Film school and Doug is mostly "self taught" or something. I also think her talking about it is a good move as well.
Even then, I remember always looking at that picture of that AMA from some dude that worked on Kickassia did for 4chan. Basically he just called out how unprofessional the whole movies were and how some of the people were cool and the others were delusional. They hired that fucker for Sound Production, but he ended up doing odd jobs here and there for them. It's a big image, so I'm not sure if I should post it here.
I've seen that image. It's amazing! Just post it in a spoiler tag. :)
My favorite part of this image was him talking about Linkara and how Spoony was the most hated dude there. Poor Spoony.
Spoiler
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That's amazing.
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The first half of Kickassia was fine. It was funny enough until they had Doug and crew take over Molassia which was anticlimactic. It was downhill from there with Doug progressively becoming nuttier which wasn't funny whatsoever. It would have much better if instead of taking over they had just kept trying and failing, with each of them one by one giving up until Doug goes in by himself, manages to get the land but then realizing it's boring and goes back home. That would have made for a much better movie.
Suburban Knights was okay, but To Boldly Flee became a mess especially around the end with Rob's annoying (and not very good) Darth Sidious impression. As for that game show, nothing I've heard about it is good, but I don't think it was a scam at all, I think that just a case of Channel Awesome's owners biting off far more than they could chew. It takes a lot of work to make a game show and would require a production crew which they don't really have.
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If you wanted me to post the Linkara image that gets thrown around, I would have done that for free! :^)
Without further ado... Daxdiv presents, Linkara stories from /co/
Spoiler
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This week, the NC goes apeshit over Tim Burton's Planet of the Apes (http://channelawesome.com/nostalgia-critic-planet-of-the-apes/). Also, there's an Honest Trailers parody at the beginning.
I have a friend who is OBSESSED with Tim Burton. And not just his old stuff. Like, he thinks Big Eyes was the best film of last year by a wide margin, and he's defensive of Alice in Wonderland and Dark Shadows.
This is the one movie of his that he doesn't like at all. Although he is very weary about Burton's Dumbo movie.
I actually enjoyed Burton's PotA because of its cheesy factor. I'd never consider it a good movie, though.
Other than the bullcrap ending, I thought Planet of the Apes was fine when I saw it in theaters. Haven't seen it at all since, none of the TV networks have ever aired it to my knowledge. I have no idea if it would hold up to me.
Doug counts down his top 10 favorite Disney films. (http://channelawesome.com/dougs-top-10-disney-films/)
They made another episode of Pop Quiz Hotshot. (http://channelawesome.com/pop-quiz-hot-shot-bat-nipples/)
It's better than the pilot, but still a total waste of people's money.
New Todd video! (http://chezapocalypse.com/episodes/see-you-again-by-wiz-khalifa-ft-charlie-puth-a-pop-song-review-2/)
I'm home, so I'm able to c/p here. :P
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This week the NC asks the most nostalgia-challenging question ever: "Are Kids Shows Better Now Than Ever?" (http://channelawesome.com/nostalgia-critic-are-kids-shows-better-now-than-ever/)
I agree with him as far as the cream of the crop of modern cartoons go. Doug obviously doesn't watch some of the lesser stuff out these days, like Sanjay & Craig and Ultimate Spider-Man, which aren't pushing the bar with quality entertainment in any capacity, but I suppose they're still preferable over the weakest stuff from previous decades. As a whole I think tv animation is better than it's ever been. As far as live-action kid fare goes, I don't they've really become any better or any worse. There's very few LA shows from my childhood that hold up for me and there's only about as much that I'd care to watch on tv these days.
I agree that kids shows, in general, are of a higher standard today than in previous generations. What I mean by that is how more and more shows are tackling more complex themes and appealing to adults just as much as children. However, I don't quite agree with Doug's implication that shows like Gargoyles or BTAS, while still good, aren't as good as something like Avatar or Adventure Time. More than just being influential, shows of that variety still stand up just as well to modern great shows because of the writing, effort, thought, and care put into them.
That said, yes, with the standards of children's programming being higher than ever before, many kids and adults alike now have expectations for most of these cartoons. Which is to say that it's no longer enough to just try and keep kids alone entertained for a half hour at a time, or even to haphazardly throw in adult themes just for the sake of it, but rather cartoons of this nature are now regularly expected to appeal to a very broad demographic while also being scrutinized by the same standards that one would use to critique a show meant for adults, including aspects of both story and character development.
Todd tackles everyone's favorite girly-boy group, Hanson! (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/one-hit-wonderland-mmmbop-by-hanson-7207693)
The NC really should've posted his latest review on a Monday. (http://channelawesome.com/nostalgia-critic-garfield-the-movie/) Really, such a wasted opportunity!
What was special about Monday?
Pop culture, man....
(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/b3/d7/14/b3d71491e87259e5dcb4314d1f3086bf.jpg)
Well, haven't rewatched Garfield in a while. Should have remembered that as there is no other character in any fictional history that hates a certain day of the week than Garfield hating Mondays. :sweat:
Why does Garfield even hate Mondays, he's a cat that lays around the house his human provides for him. He has no 9-5, Monday to Friday job that I know of.
Quote from: Daxdiv on August 06, 2015, 02:28:54 AMWhy does Garfield even hate Mondays, he's a cat that lays around the house his human provides for him. He has no 9-5, Monday to Friday job that I know of.
Mondays are like a curse for him. Bad luck happens to him on that day.
Jon doesn't make lasagna on Mondays.
Blast from the past: Ask a Ninja has joined Channel Awesome! (http://channelawesome.com/ask-a-ninja-question-1-ninja-mart-store) :huh:
Holy fuck. That show is still around? :o ???
This week Doug counts down his top ten moments in movies. (http://channelawesome.com/dougs-top-10-favorite-movie-moments/)
Todd continues Cinemadonna with Dangerous Game. (http://blip.tv/todds-pop-song-reviews/cinemadonna-dangerous-game-7207920)
Watch it before Blip closes later this week!
Doug unearths one of his old sketches and reuploads it to YouTube. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Dk9BmtvwEwY)
Todd's first post-shut down video. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQXNJBczhHE&feature=youtu.be&a)
I don't think this is one of his best. Too much anger, not enough jokes. Also, I've never heard of this before.
Another new Todd vid- this time it's a OHW. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5ZqAQhbmUk)
I love the Jam as well, btw.
This week, Doug asks the question on if a joke can go too far sometimes. (http://channelawesome.com/nostalgia-critic-when-does-a-joke-go-too-far/)
This Cinemadonna hits Madonna's big one. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIGXFN3NRuY&feature=youtu.be&a) Don't cry for her or something.
But really, if Todd doesn't like any of her movies at all, I kind of wonder why he decided to review them.
This week, the Critic furiously hits road as he debates which is the best Mad Max movie in a review of Mad Max: Fury Road (http://channelawesome.com/nostalgia-critic-mad-max-fury-road/).
I have to say, I really liked how he approached this one. I much prefer this style of review opposed to the style he used for Jurassic World and Pixels.
I mostly liked how he slammed fanboys, hypocritical feminists, and sexist action movie fans all at the same time. He also did a good job of paying respect to the entire Mad Max franchise.
Too bad the other board I'm on absolutely hate it. Way too many people over there take it as him still wanting to Demo Reel, when it's really the issues they've had with YouTube. :??:
New Todd! (https://vimeo.com/140550544)
Todd talks about Crazy Town. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-s2w6khvtV4&feature=youtu.be&a)
This is a pretty fun one.
Gah what a bad song. Takes me back to like 7th grade though.
New Todd! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmQiJZlmPKk&feature=youtu.be&a)
I hate this song lol
Todd takes on Justin Bieber and Shawn Mendes in his new review. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-NGwfELbdw&feature=youtu.be&a)
The NC's newest commercials episode features a cameo from a certain legendary animator... (http://channelawesome.com/conquest-of-the-commercials-nostalgia-critic/)
Also, the second part of Some Jerk's Escape from Tomorrow review is up! (http://channelawesome.com/escape-from-tomorrow-part-two-some-jerk/)
As lopsided as the quality of his main videos can be, I always get big laughs out of his commercial videos.
My only real gripe was with the Pokemon commercial. I get that his character hates/doesn't get Pokemon, but for a character that's supposed to be a big Nintendo fan, it's kind of odd to target a commercial that's actually about the game rather than some of the other merchandise.
I wasn't fond of that skit either, and I've seen a lot of comments on the video chastising it as well. It really came across a little too mean-spirited, even for as much as the Critic hates Pokemon.
Overall, though, it was another great special, and I loved the recurring gag with Don Bluth. I'm very curious to see what the Critic will review with him next week. Perhaps the Dragon's Lair tv series from the 80's?
The penultimate Cinemadonna looks at Madonna's last film. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rcVSXCSaoLU&feature=youtu.be&a)
Edit: Wait, she directed a movie, too. I guess we have 2 more Cinemadonnas left.
This year's Disneycember will focus on the Marvel (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0rRfHaIHMbQ) Cinematic (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8iKa1Vp5kC0) Universe (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0SPkY4lbCQ), the Star Wars movies, & other popular requests.
And here are his thoughts on Thor: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xT5fvMlIeLo
I'm surprisingly pretty much in agreement with him so far, though my opinions on each film slightly vary. I think that Iron Man is definitely better than just "pretty good" as a stand-alone film, and I'm much harder on The Incredible Hulk and Iron Man 2 in retrospect than he is. I find it a bit funny how he claims that everyone was hating on Iron Man 2 when it came out. The movie has a Certified Fresh rating on Rotten Tomatoes, and I remember a lot of people, including myself, being in denial about the movie's lack of quality for at least a year or two after it came out. Back then, people were kind of giving it a free-pass just because they wanted to like it so much. Looking back on it, the movie was a complete mess, and a real bore at that.
As for Thor, I pretty much agree with him on it, though I'm surprised he didn't really talk at all about Tom Hiddleston's performance as Loki, seeing as how insanely popular that actor and his character became after this movie and The Avengers, and how he pretty much had the best performance in this film (at least IMO).
I'm interested to see him tackle Captain America: The First Avenger tomorrow. Unlike most internet critics, I do know that he actually does enjoy the film (not to the same extent that I do, but certainly more than a lot of other people), and that he's also an admirer of Joe Johnston's earlier movie, The Rocketeer. Perhaps he could at least explain some of the qualities that make the movie better than what some people give it credit for, while also acknowledging some of his own criticisms of it.
Captain America: The First Avenger (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWkg32nJ584&list=PL0AQIMR-tponjUqTMQBfJnOLvgtL_Qepn&index=5)
Like I said before, I'm glad that he likes this one. And I felt the same way as Doug going into this movie. I never in a million years thought that a live-action Captain America movie could possibly work unless it was played up for comedy. I already liked the character well enough thanks to the show Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes, which portrays him very well, but that was animation, and the way that he's done in that show wouldn't translate very well into live action. When I finally got around to seeing this movie, I was pleasantly surprised. Oddly enough, I didn't love or appreciate it on my first viewing quite as much as I do now. I liked it fine, but it was on my second viewing of the film on Netflix about a year later that I truly realized how great the movie was on its own merits.
And yes, like Doug said, this is an adventure movie rather than an action movie. A lot of people seem to miss the point when they complain about the lack of action in The First Avenger, IMO. As I explained in another post, that's clearly not the tone or feel that this movie was going for.
This Christmas, Todd takes on Adele and Drake's new megahits. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yPFjVy87HJM&feature=youtu.be&a)
Kyle's top 20 films of 2015. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s35TWLwUKgw)
Todd's top 10 worst
Part 1 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B97Vadqkq0E&feature=youtu.be&a) 2 (https://vimeo.com/151616410)
I really hate "Worth It" so I'm pleased it made his list, don't like "Fight Song" but have resigned that we'll be hearing it for a while thanks to that Ford commercial, actually like Nicki's part in "Only" but hate the rest of the song, and I like "Bad Blood". The rest isn't worth mentioning.
I heard his #1 in full for the first time the other day, while I was at Barnes & Noble. It's well deserved.
Todd's Best of 2015 list is now up. (http://channelawesome.com/forums/threads/best-hit-songs-of-2015-both-parts.56830)
It's only for Patrons, though. It'll go public tomorrow.
Ooh, a Demi song. That'll make someone happy.
Yeah, I've seen that he particularly likes "Cool for the Summer". I don't really listen to her that much anymore, but that's easily one of her best singles.
I'll catch this tomorrow.
The Channel Awesome YouTube channel lost it's monetization due to a claim from Studio Ghibli! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bC3NIdiZF_E)
I don't know what you want to know about that info, I'm just throwing this out there for everyone. Basically, this video is also mostly just a rant about YT's copyright system.
Here's the (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmYfvNO-1iM&feature=youtu.be&a) top 10! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds90m5dq6-I&feature=youtu.be&a)
I called the top 2, but I wasn't sure what order they would be in. I don't like that song, but it's one of the better Taylor Swift tracks that I've heard.
Quote from: Avaitor on January 29, 2016, 11:12:43 AM
Here's the (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HmYfvNO-1iM&feature=youtu.be&a) top 10! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ds90m5dq6-I&feature=youtu.be&a)
I called the top 2, but I wasn't sure what order they would be in. I don't like that song, but it's one of the better Taylor Swift tracks that I've heard.
My only disagreement with his Worst List was #2 as Fight Song isn't bad, but I have no complaints whatsoever with this list or the Honorable Mentions. I didn't think 2014 was a bad year, but he's right about 2015 trouncing it. It's best songs were awesome and that includes Style.
Well, see you next year Todd. Here's hoping you'll have broken away from certain people on Twitter by then.
LordKat put up a goodbye video on YouTube. Sounds like he's basically done with everything internet related (including those livestreams Cartoon X mentioned back last summer), and just focusing on his job and stuff. Dude was tearing up, apologizing for all the horrible shit he's said and done over the years.
I can appreciate that he's sorry, but I've listened to his stuff a few times over the past 10 months and I got to say, when the dude wasn't shit-talking CA (some of it I agreed with, some of it he just kept ranting and ranting long after he made his point) or belching into his mic, the condescending attitude he had towards his friends on his podcasts drove me up a wall.
At any rate, I at least hope he can work out his problems and find happiness in his life off the internet. I do remember watching his videos waaaaay back when they were all starting out and enjoyed a few of them.
I heard some major crap about him involving a group of guys and a young girl from a post by Diamanda Hagan. Did he bring that up?
Hope for his sake he was genuine and turns over a new leaf. There are just some people that aren't a good fit with the Internet. For example, I'm glad I never see Shawn Hopkins around anymore.
I kind of skimmed it, I didn't want to listen to the whole thing. I mostly heard apologies to Spoony for the "kill yourself" thing and to JesuOtaku, I think. Once the dude started crying I just kind of stopped listening. You can tell his friends weren't prepared for any of that and the whole thing's kind of awkward. One of them even sounded kind of pissed that they wouldn't be able to do the podcast anymore, soooo... yeeeeah.
Cinemadonna continues! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSJXdrHaFI4)
Four Rooms is one of those Tarantino curios that I've been purposely avoiding, even though I've heard that his segment is the strongest.
The LordKat thing? All a troll.
What a colossal piece of shit. I'm done with this dude.
Quote from: Nel_Annette on March 05, 2016, 12:00:19 AM
The LordKat thing? All a troll.
What a colossal piece of shit. I'm done with this dude.
He was lying about his apologies? Not a surprise if so, the guy's been a major douche. I regret the fact that I ever enjoyed Until We Win.
Todd goes back to the Bieber well. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4kyxiH3y4x8)
Some Jerk reviews The Haunted Mansion (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K34aq9DgFWo)... movie!
New Cinemadonna! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_X1KzyqqZF0)
New Todd review! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAQExHJHqc0)
New Cinemadonna! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OaGDjVxcpa8)
This recent One Hit Wonderland is my favorite in a while. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Say4vpTkLo8)
I fucking love The Darkness, even if most of that good will comes from Permission to Land. But to be fair, their trajectory follows a lot of the acts they're inspired by- solid debut followed by disappointing next release, which results in a hiatus and a good return to form, which is then followed by a slightly disappointing but still decent continuation. The ride is just fun to check out.
Cinemadonna concludes. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kicgKApqSNk)
Todd's top 10 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UuMuEWvbbPo&feature=youtu.be&a) worst of 2016 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zPI3lrOzz-s&feature=youtu.be&a).
And now (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7e6Hwcmj-Y&feature=youtu.be&a) Todd's Top 10 best (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zm_Qx1x1zG4).
Linkara's gone. (http://atopfourthwall.tumblr.com/post/172213816483)
Man, the #ChangeTheChannel movement is doing wonders. Who would have thought that Lupa going into more detail about CA's shady business side would cause all of this?
Here's a digest version of the ongoing #ChangeTheChannel (https://www.resetera.com/threads/the-long-drama-of-channel-awesome-doug-and-rob-walker-and-ceo-mike-michaud.29873/) saga.
Long story short...thank god that crappy show Juu and I did never got picked up.
EDIT: Suede (https://twitter.com/SuedeBlade/status/977653015019585537), Todd, and SFDebris (https://twitter.com/sfdebris/status/977655216807055360) have resigned from the site as well.
Todd was still there? Thought he left with Lindsay?
EDIT: Anyway, I think the biggest problem that runs at the core of all this is that Mike Michaud has full legal rights to Nostalgia Critic and not Doug or Rob themselves. It's probably because Doug was too naive and he and Rob were too lazy to run the business side of Channel Awesome. It explains at least part of why they don't speak up to him.
Well, well, well....Look who went Down the Rabbit Hole... (https://youtu.be/OMSZ1TqgOIU)
Here's the compiled Google Doc that Lupa/Allison promised she would make. (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WZFkR__B3Mk9EYQglvislMUx9HWvWhOaBP820UBa4dA/preview#heading=h.smmxroimnosh)
Enjoy reading this.
Meh, it's just the same stuff they laid out Twitter. Not much new.
Really think Holly has the strongest case for a lawsuit with Michaud, that guy deserves to have his clock cleaned out.
Quote from: Peanutbutter on April 02, 2018, 08:23:17 PM
Meh, it's just the same stuff they laid out Twitter. Not much new.
Really think Holly has the strongest case for a lawsuit with Michaud, that guy deserves to have his clock cleaned out.
To be fair, they did say they were compiling the doc to have a more concise place to look at the information, cause reading most of those Twitter threads was a headache to go through. Not just because of what they wrote, but due to the format in how Twitter works.
Quote from: Daxdiv on April 02, 2018, 07:50:36 PM
Here's the compiled Google Doc that Lupa/Allison promised she would make. (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WZFkR__B3Mk9EYQglvislMUx9HWvWhOaBP820UBa4dA/preview#heading=h.smmxroimnosh)
Enjoy reading this.
(https://static2.fjcdn.com/comments/Im+a+bassist+_b851b0dd222c81633ce3ee5fddf3dea2.png)
We knew about a few of these events for years, right? From when a bunch of them left? Basically that Mike Michaud's a piece of shit and Rob's a bit of a dick and Doug tries to look like a good guy while also being a dick?
And now a bunch more people are leaving, so that's why all this is coming to surface even harder than before? It's weird to see even Linkara turning on them. Last time I paid attention, people were piling him in with the Walkers and Michaud, but more because he was a complete weirdo than anything mean.
Its all about the gory details at this point. Michaud's been known to be an asshole to the community for a while, to what degree and to who hasn't been as clear as it is now. There's also additional grievances like LordKaT being blackballed from PAX due to Spoony and Joe's antics which has been in the public record for some time that didnt make it in to this document (presumably because it only involves the site in a roundabout way).
Also Channel Awesome has basically done a good job keeping these incidents under wraps. Hence why we haven't really seen or heard much outside of the Lupa/Phelous fiasco in January 2015. Which of course led to Lindsey's camp leaving en masse, as well as Kalgren's bizarre twitter meltdown.
Here is CA's non-apology. (https://twitter.com/ChannelAwesome/status/980956519280861184/photo/1)
Film Brain is out (http://filmbrainbmb.tumblr.com/post/172554848252/i-have-left-channel-awesome) AND THEY DON'T STOP COMING AND THEY DON'T STOP COMING AND THEY DON'T STOP COMING!
Quote from: Daxdiv on April 03, 2018, 06:29:45 PM
Film Brain is out (http://filmbrainbmb.tumblr.com/post/172554848252/i-have-left-channel-awesome) AND THEY DON'T STOP COMING AND THEY DON'T STOP COMING AND THEY DON'T STOP COMING!
Thank you Matt.
The faux apology has Michaud written all over it. Even if they ended being 100% innocent which is doubtful, they were better off keeping silent about this. Now there's a serious chink in the armor.
Hopewithinchaos posted a video about his time with TGWTG. He admits that he was the one who was the anonymous story in the document about Mike Ellis being waaaay overly sexual to him in a skype chat.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gqgB8sbAIpU
https://youtu.be/2yIjg17A6Oo -Knudson spends six hours reading Not So Awesome.
Lordkat was actually the first former contributor to mention CA's problems.
Here's the fist of his supercuts series where he brings them up:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=101&v=bkEhtD10pX0
It's almost eight hours long, but it may have some notes not mentioned in the Not So Awesome documents.
So, it turns out CA was planning a 10-year anniversary movie.
It's been cancelled due to over half the staff quitting. (https://twitter.com/Diamandahagan/status/982693289622167552)
Here are the people who left today--Some Jerk, Calluna, Il Neige, The Dom, Last Angry Geek, Nash, Rocked Reviews, Sursum Ursa, and Shaun K.
ADDENDUM: Ask Lovecraft and Brandon Tenold.
EDIT: Also, Doug is a goddamn tool. (https://twitter.com/LavenderSoSoft/status/982680544214470656)
Oancitizen (who wasnt too happy when he left the site) wont weigh in over fears of Twitter reprisals. (https://twitter.com/KyleKallgren/status/983064552345669632)
The document has been updated. (https://docs.google.com/document/d/1WZFkR__B3Mk9EYQglvislMUx9HWvWhOaBP820UBa4dA/preview) Now it has accounts from Iron Liz and Terror Obscura.
Yomarz and Maven have left. Count updated (I've had to update this three times today).
Now they're losing sponsors.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DahM05tXkAEPMnM.jpg)
And they flubbed putting out a response again.
Angry Joe has left.
This is just getting sad now.
MasakoX has also left.
Also, some sad news: Remember JewWario, the man who shot himself a few years ago? Turns out he was a sexual deviant. (https://twitter.com/MarzGurl/status/984390105681969153) (Read the whole thread.)
EDIT: Jesus fuck... (https://www.reddit.com/r/ChannelAwesome/comments/8bqrhw/whats_all_this_about_jewwario_now) :shit:
And now we know why he offed himself..... :wth:
Bennett and Battle Geek Plus have just quit.
Oh wow, that is quite the bombshell about JewWario.
I want off Mr. Michaud's Wild Ride!
Quote from: Daikun on April 12, 2018, 03:35:15 PM
Bennett and Battle Geek Plus have just quit.
They're still listed on the drop down.
Quote from: Lord Dalek on April 12, 2018, 06:03:25 PMQuote from: Daikun on April 12, 2018, 03:35:15 PMBennett and Battle Geek Plus have just quit.
They're still listed on the drop down.
They sometimes take a while with that.
Anyway, Guru Larry broke that news. (https://twitter.com/LarryBundyJr/status/984526673273028616)
To clarify, I don't think anyone JewWario was with was underage, but he's still a rapist. He had the best reputation out of all of them, and now even that's gone.......
Fred Knudson will be reading and commenting on the Channel Awesome response at 7:00 pm tomorrow night. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y02UX9g0DQE)
Gaming Wildlife left. (https://twitter.com/GamingWildlife/status/984589861943377920)
Also, from Larry's Twitter thread I linked above, Ryan from BGP revealed that a couple more are leaving, but he didn't say which ones.
Two producers left. (https://twitter.com/LarryBundyJr/status/984604043199827969) Holy shit.
I won't lie, I never really felt much when JewWario passed. I don't think that I ever saw a single video of his. I won't use the chance to say good riddance or even that I feel relief for that, but it does suck to see that even he wasn't perfect.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oIscL-Bjsq4
Ya earned it.
It's confirmed that ERod left. (https://twitter.com/Themexicansnob/status/984620676710653952/photo/1) All that remains are Brad and Larry.
Quote from: Avaitor on April 12, 2018, 08:54:15 PM
I won't lie, I never really felt much when JewWario passed. I don't think that I ever saw a single video of his. I won't use the chance to say good riddance or even that I feel relief for that, but it does suck to see that even he wasn't perfect.
Same here. I always saw the name come up back in the day, but never knew who he was until the suicide. Always saw it as a sad situation, but if this is true, fuuuuuuck.
Larry's just a placeholder account. He's waiting to see if Brad blinks.
Quote from: Lord Dalek on April 12, 2018, 10:01:18 PM
Larry's just a placeholder account. He's waiting to see if Brad blinks.
He sure is making the best of it on his twitter. ;D
How ironic that Channel Awesome should comemorate Holocaust Remembrance Day with its own unique version of Krystalnacht. <_<
So, a Facebook group (https://www.facebook.com/groups/1563820000382147) has been created for ex-CA contributors. It's set to private and you can only read it if you join, but Holly made this interesting post:
(https://i.imgur.com/MXAbTiw.jpg)
(https://78.media.tumblr.com/476d6cb902d273d527ce28163461ea15/tumblr_inline_p73wy3yY5y1qcf9s5_540.png)
Let us all hope that Toonzone dies next. Then Macattack and LightLucario will know what its like to have me as your moderator. :whip:
Knudsen's stream starts in 10 minutes.
Here's the link again, so you don't have to go back a page.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y02UX9g0DQE
The CA forums are down.
EDIT: Their store is closed as well.
Would love to see Freakin Awesome Network share CA's fate considering they have a mod who was close friends with someone that later after being banned turned out to be a pedophile.
(https://scontent.fbed1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/30714347_10156361023418615_8530686294541847602_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=ed45530a427bc0ca411aded40df650d6&oe=5B64F4D5)
DOUG HAS (possibly) LEFT. (https://twitter.com/FredInTheKnud/status/985979281682526208)
I'm taking that with a grain of salt. Larry said that Brad had left and he was wrong.
It may be wrong, but this saga has already gotten so crazy that NOTHING can be thrown off the table.....
"I want my non-decision. I want to not care about things. It's what I'm good at."
-Doug Walker, 2008 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uubbfW6h4Yw)
CA has cancelled their Momocon appearance. (https://twitter.com/MomoCon/status/986050082788315136?s=19)
Quote from: Lord Dalek on April 16, 2018, 10:12:23 PMCA has cancelled their Momocon appearance. (https://twitter.com/MomoCon/status/986050082788315136?s=19)
From the wording of that Tweet, it sounds like the other way around.
QuoteChannel Awesome will have to cancel their appearance . . .
;)
CA also haven't officially mentioned cancelling their appearance, so it seems MomoCon did this themselves.
The forums (which currently have no moderators due to the walkout) are currently down and have been so since late last night.
They've been closed since Friday.
The forums were a lion's den of belligerent and arrogant jackasses, so nothing of value was lost. Though I would have enjoyed seeing their panic first hand when they started to get raided.
(https://i.imgur.com/iyk8fM0.jpg)
It was the only possible outcome. Can't get rid of Michaud and the brand is permanently toxic.
Sadly true. Whether Doug and Rob would get rid of him if they could has yet to be seen, but he's too much an anchor for them.
Man, idk why I still followed Doug's page on Facebook for so long. I finally clicked unlike today. Not like it was used all that much anymore- the last month or so, all he posts are charity links, almost like a last-ditch effort.
I don't even know the last time he's done a video, and I don't care.