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Title: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 30, 2010, 12:46:54 PM
So what weekly (or bi-weekly, or monthly or whatever) currently running manga are you reading?

you may not know this, but I'm reading Bakuman right now and wondering how a manga that's so close to "Enigma" is considered a good idea to run at the same time as Enigma. Shonen audiences aren't stupid, if it looks the same, they won't bite.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 30, 2010, 02:12:39 PM
I'm also keeping up with Bakuman, in addition to One Piece.

I'd like to say that I'm keeping up with more series than just that, but unfortunately those are the only 2 shounen series that currently interest me, right now. I do want to start reading Billy Bat, but first I need to finish 20th Century Boys, and I should probably start reading more of Claymore. I might check out Vinland Saga since Desensitized gave it such a high recommendation, but I think that I'll focus on finishing 20th Century Boys before keeping up with any currently running series (aside from the ones which I'm already reading).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 12, 2011, 01:06:22 PM
Just finished reading the most recent chapter of One Piece. The end of the chapter in which the Fortune-teller saw a vision and predicted that Luffy would bring about the destruction of Fishmen Island left things off at an interesting cliffhanger. I wonder if through some circumstances in this arc he'll have to do end up doing that, or if he will prove her vision wrong by the end of the arc. Oh well, its a One Piece arc, so it'll probably be a long time before we find that out, anyways. :sly:

Anyways, I've enjoyed the down-time in the series for a while in which the crew is just having some fun exploring and all, especially after the seriousness of the last major arc, but I kind of want this arc to get more serious now and shift towards the story of Captain Vander Decken XI and his ship The Flying Dutchman, and I also wouldn't mind seeing the leader of those Fishmen pirates who have it out for Luffy because he defeated Arlong way back around the early parts of the series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 14, 2011, 05:20:59 PM
I LOVED this week's chapter of Bakuman. Most of the chapter was actually the story within the story, so we got to see firsthand what the first chapter was like, and it was a really good read. Then at the end Ashirogi gave their commentary on it, including their praises and criticisms for it, and I pretty much agreed with all of what they said. The big reveal at the end of the manga being a work from a fan of their's who used to write to them was a really good twist. It looks like Ashirogi will have even more tough competition down the road.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 14, 2011, 11:34:01 PM
Yeah, this was a great chapter. I liked the total focus on manga in this chapter with only Mashiro and Takagi appearing in it critiquing the manga.

I do agree with them on the ending, though. Not that there's anything wrong with bad endings where the good guy doesn't win, but like Takagi said, it renders everything the main character did pointless in this case. That type of ending won't sit well with Shonen audiences. It was a great and simple idea, but it did have it's faults so I'm glad the were able to cover both of them.

Still, I wonder what kind of psychological battle manga they will think of for their next work. Since, you know, Death Note already exists in this universe.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 15, 2011, 12:54:55 AM
I did quite enjoy how the the author of the manga actually used a piece of this chapter to give a tad bit of commentary one what some might critique is previous work, Death Note, for. Of course its never scientifically explained how the Death Note kills people. Its meant to be supernatural, and part of the mysterious and unknown. Even if its dark, its still a fantasy shonen series, so I always found it stupid when I did actually encounter people who criticized that aspect of Death Note before, mostly back on TV.com, though (and I have to admit that it was a site full of stupid members, anyways). It was also kind of nice to see One Piece get referenced in this chapter, even if it was just for the hell of it (since the example was kind of unnecessary given that they had already used Death Note as an example).

Yeah, I also don't like endings in which the main character dies in a way that makes each of his previous efforts pointless. But as Takagi pointed out, the author probably sacrificed a more satisfying ending in order to stand out more, which is fairly understandable in terms of just trying to get the Editors to notice his work for what it is compared to the standard shonen out there, as well as the other authors who try to be original but lack writing talent.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 22, 2011, 09:28:29 PM
Heh, that new kid is one sly, sneaky little smart-ass. Personally I think that while he probably does have an overly-cheerful attitude, he's clearly a calculation-type mangaka and is only playing dumb, when I think that he pretty much must have planned everything out to get there to be such a big fuss over his work. I don't really think that he truly expected to win a Jump prize, but just wanted to use Jump in some way to get his work noticed. The reason I say that is because there were a lot of hints in this chapter towards him being more like that kind of person, and even a few of the editors seem to think so, as well as Ashirogi.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 22, 2011, 09:43:19 PM
Man, after being disappointed by the latest anime episode, the manga really has no breaks on right now.

This new kid should be a lot of fun.  ;D
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Angus on January 25, 2011, 11:50:43 PM
I just discovered Kimi no Iru Machi. It's another slice-of-life romance by the person who did Suzuka, so it's promising.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 29, 2011, 05:55:28 PM
Nanamine is a great character, I have to say. He played the system in order to get himself closer to serialization and while what he did was technically "wrong"... There really isn't an argument against it.

He even realized that Tanto exists because of Miura's meddling, which is what seems to back up his whole viewpoint.

I do think if he had an editor more like Hattori, that his entire outlook on them would probably change. But I'm not sure how that'll happen with the newbie he currently has.

Seriously, this is the best thing in Jump without a doubt.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 29, 2011, 06:30:35 PM
You know, I'm really surprised that Shonen Jump is allowing the author to portray a lot of the negative aspects of what "could be" wrong with an editorial staff. To be fair, characters like Hattori and the Editor-in-Chief show readers the positive aspects of editors, whereas characters like Miura show how much they can hold back an author from realizing their true potential and drawing the type of works that they want to draw.

Nanamine is really clever. So far, it seems like they are setting him up as the best example of almost the exact opposite type of character that Nizuma Eiji is. What I mean by that is that Eiji is like the perfect example of a "Genius" mangaka, who has a natural talent for drawing and can create popular works without even thinking about it. Hiramaru is also a really good example of this type of author. On the other hand, Nanamine seems to be the perfect example of the best of the best in the opposite spectrum. He's not a "Genius" like Eiji, but rather is an extremely good "Calculative" type of author, doing what needs to be done to make it to the top in terms of popularity by thinking things through and planning out everything that he does.

I just realized in this chapter that Nanamine feels very much like the type of character that the author would have written for in a series like Death Note, with the way that he thinks and how sharp he is at analyzing what goes on behind the scenes.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 05, 2011, 10:52:04 PM
Another great chapter of Bakuman. This time we start see a few of the cracks in Nanamine's plan, and I myself was with him up until a certain point.

The creative process is a wonderful thing, and manga is no lesser a form of storytelling than other forms, but it does end up feeling a bit cheap the way he's going about it. Not that asking for opinions on work is wrong (quite the contrary), but to selectively make something manufactured to such a high degree leaves a bit of a blemish on the work itself. As we've seen, the work might be good, but it's missing something as Kosugi pointed out. While the other editors might not have noticed it, I think the Jump audience will which will lead to a turn on Nanamine's predicament.

It also makes me question why Nanamine and his group don't just get a group like Clamp going, or try to get into anime. Lord knows their ideas would be crap tons better than what comes out nowadays over there.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 05, 2011, 11:05:50 PM
Quote from: Desensitized on February 05, 2011, 10:52:04 PM
Another great chapter of Bakuman. This time we start see a few of the cracks in Nanamine's plan, and I myself was with him up until a certain point.

I think that there is a half-truth to everything Nanamine says to argue in his favor. Its true that sometimes editors can really hold an author back if they don't understand manga (Miura is the perfect example of this), and that sometimes getting the opinions of people who have a passion for reading manga can be very useful. But then there is the other side where Ashirogi is right. In truth, those people have never drawn manga of their own, and they are just amateurs. The thing is, its not that hard to come up with great ideas and execute them fairly well over the span of a few chapters worth of material. The problem is that Shonen Jump is mostly intended for series of considerable running-times, and I'm really predicting here that Nanamine will soon discover that these so called "experts" that he selected among his "commenters" on his blog will prove to be entirely useless in the future after he gets a series kicked off and serialized and then gets a considerable amount into its run only to discover that while these people can come up with good ideas, they are amateurs at truly being able to keep a series running on good ideas and he will eventually not be able to hook in his readers.

I still think that Nanamine is a very interest character, to say the least.

QuoteIt also makes me question why Nanamine and his group don't just get a group like Clamp going, or try to get into anime. Lord knows their ideas would be crap tons better than what comes out nowadays over there.

Please remind me why Clamp is even popular? I mean, I can respect Code Geass to some extent as it does have some genuine effort put behind it (I still think it flat out sucks, personally, due to poor execution, but that's just me I suppose), but I have never been able to enjoy anything else they have done. I mean, even older stuff like Chobits doesn't make sense to me in terms of how it appeals to so many other people. I just don't think I have liked a single thing that they have ever done, personally (once again, though, I'm probably the minority on this one).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 05, 2011, 11:15:40 PM
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on February 05, 2011, 11:05:50 PM
The thing is, its not that hard to come up with great ideas and execute them fairly well over the span of a few chapters worth of material. The problem is that Shonen Jump is mostly intended for series of considerable running-times, and I'm really predicting here that Nanamine will soon discover that these so called "experts" that he selected among his "commenters" on his blog will prove to be entirely useless in the future after he gets a series kicked off and serialized and then gets a considerable amount into its run only to discover that while these people can come up with good ideas, they are amateurs at truly being able to keep a series running on good ideas and he will eventually not be able to hook in his readers.
That's what I was thinking. Not only that, but with fifty people, at a certain point there are going to be disagreements... and with a weekly schedule... He's going to have serious problems.

There's just too many holes in his plans that he just plain can't see right now... and it's going to bite him hard.

QuoteI still think that Nanamine is a very interest character, to say the least.
Oh yeah, he's a smart and crafty guy. It's just that because he hasn't been published yet, he doesn't really know what he's getting himself into.

QuotePlease remind me why Clamp is even popular? I mean, I can respect Code Geass to some extent as it does have some genuine effort put behind it (I still think it flat out sucks, personally, due to poor execution, but that's just me I suppose), but I have never been able to enjoy anything else they have done. I mean, even older stuff like Chobits doesn't make sense to me in terms of how it appeals to so many other people. I just don't think I have liked a single thing that they have ever done, personally (once again, though, I'm probably the minority on this one).
I can't explain the Clamp phenomenon at all, but I do think a group of people dedicated to producing material like the Classroom Of Truth would be better than having to sit through the latest moe abortion or Umineko idiocy. But I guess he's more convinced that this is his work alone and less of his "colleagues"... which will probably also boomerang on him later.

EDIT: whoops
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 05, 2011, 11:32:19 PM
There is also the possibility that if Nanamine's manga does become successful and popular (at least initially so), those 50 people will find out about that right away and start bringing up a controversy by demanding credit for him using their own ideas. He has great ideas, but unfortunately he wasn't written with the amazing foresight or sensibilities of what you might expect from a Death Note character, after all (which I initially felt was the type of character that he would be). While he brilliantly thought his way into getting onto a great start, he clearly hasn't considered any future consequences for his current actions, which will really take its toll on him, eventually.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Angus on February 06, 2011, 09:45:18 PM
CLAMP did the moe thing back when magical girls were still in the shojo category (Magic Knight Rayearth and Cardcaptor Sakura) and long before the dating sim trend ruined it. A lot of their stuff also pokes light fun at the different genres, although something like Tsubasa gets to be rather tedious in anime form. I don't see how anyone who isn't a Cardcaptor Sakura and CLAMP fan would find it more than average since it's very Kingdom Hearts / House of Mouse in mixing characters. As for Code Geass, they only did the character design.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Foggle on February 06, 2011, 10:42:43 PM
Is anyone else reading Billy Bat? I just started. It's Urasawa's newest manga and it's fucking awesome.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 12, 2011, 11:32:57 AM
This week's chapter of Bakuman left things off at an interesting set-up. It looks like Ashirogi is going to focus on trying to crush Nanamine's first serialized work with PCP, showing him just who has more experience as a writer and an artist. Also, is it just me, or did Nanamine make a Light/Kira style smile on that one panel when he was talking to his editor, Kosugi? Yup, he definitely feels like a Death Note character in many regards.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 12, 2011, 01:32:40 PM
Things are definitely heating up in this arc. I'm especially interested to note that only Yoshida and Eiji [and Hattori to an extent], seemed to notice the flaws of Nanamine's work (although Kosugi was the first to spot something felt off)... In truth, it's pretty much what I figured, there's a lot of flash and the illusion of depth, but when you get down to it there's not a lot of meat to it. Not to mention the lack of heart which probably comes from the surplus of cooks in the kitchen.

I think as it goes along these problems will become more and more obvious to everyone, as they frequently do in most similar works in manga, TV, movies, and what have you. Those things rarely tend to have much longevity.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 20, 2011, 12:50:45 AM
Now this chapter was downright intense and exciting. The phone conversation at the end of the chapter is really a terrific scene in which Ashirogi and Nanamine declare war on each other, with Ashirogi saying that they will take responsibility and get his series canceled within 10 weeks by crushing him in the reader's poles. While I don't really know if they'll be able to take him down that quickly, I'm willing to bet they'll still follow through eventually, though I'm expecting his series to initially take the lead over them until it steadily starts to decline in quality.

I also wanted to point out that this scene in its own way felt very reminiscent of a Death Note-like moment, sort of like when Light and L (and in the 2nd arc Light and Near) declared war on each other (albeit in a much more indirect way, though).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 20, 2011, 12:58:34 AM
10 weeks seems a bit fast for me, but I find it more likely he'll collapse under the pressure first. He is going to be in over his head soon enough. I agree, this was a great chapter and leaves me anticipating what will happen next.

Other than Enigma, I don't think there is a single manga in jump that touches Bakuman in quality right now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 20, 2011, 01:12:21 AM
I'd actually argue that One Piece is higher in quality for those who are invested in the characters and the overall adventure aspect of the series, but to be fair that's on an overall basis more than a current one, since the current arc is moving a bit slow right now (but then again I'm still getting used to the slower but normal series pace after the intense major arc that ended the first part of the story before the time-skip). Still, to be honest, I kind of anticipate the next week's OP chapter each week more than I do for Bakuman (especially with Jinbei finally reappearing at the end of last week's chapter), but I still enjoy both series.

I'd like to be highly anticipating HXH every week, but the bastard Togashi hasn't said a word of when he will end the current hiatus (if ever). I just re-read chapter 310 and it seriously pisses me off at how big of a cliffhanger he left off at. I'd at least be able to stomach his constant hiatuses if the guy would only do them each time he ended an arc, but he's still on the same fucking arc and left off at a completely pivotal point in the story, so it really ticks me off.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 27, 2011, 01:23:57 AM
OH SHIT AT THE LAST PAGE OF BAKUMAN

I did not see that coming! Great idea!

I can't wait to see what happens next.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 27, 2011, 02:00:31 AM
Hmmmm....Could that be Nakai?....Nah, that's ridiculous....Aha! I see through your ploy to try and deceive us Mr. Death Note author. It must be Koogi! :sly:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 27, 2011, 02:13:51 AM
I'm just wondering what it was that brought him back. He didn't seem interested in manga at all the last time we saw him.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 04, 2011, 12:01:32 PM
Wow, Nakai really let himself go....I mean even more than before....

Heh, It looks like Nanamine is already in denial about the problems with his series based on his method of doing things. Its also pretty risky of him to lie to his online pals about getting ranked in 1st place when they really only got 2nd.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 04, 2011, 04:18:18 PM
Poor Nakai really hit rock bottom. He really needs to wake up before he kills himself.But at least he realizes what a bad idea Nanamine's plan is and how it's wrong.

Nanamine to me now feels like someone who paints over the rust on his car. It may look better for a while, but it's still there and it will only get worse.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 11, 2011, 08:31:48 PM
 :lol:

:thumbup:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 11, 2011, 10:35:01 PM
Well, I can't say that I didn't see this coming. Honestly though I'm a bit disappointed that Ashirogi isn't really beating him because they are making PCP even better than before. Its because, as everyone already knows, his way of doing things is not the real way to make a manga, and as I predicted earlier this idea has already come crashing down on him. Still....damn, I didn't expect him to decline in quality THIS quickly. Its great to see him get such a slap in the face for his extreme cocky-ness, though. I love when he tried to challenge Ashirogi to do the same type of story and see who was more popular, and Takagi was just responded something like: "....You're on thin straws, aren't you....?"

And it doesn't look like it took Nakai too long to revert back into being a douche-bag. It was nice to see him just cower away from trying to show off to Aoki, though, when he saw her with Hiramaru.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 11, 2011, 11:07:42 PM
I just love how fast everything came crashing down like that. That's how fragile his plan was, and he didn't bank on Nakai being such a fragile idiot. Here's hoping this leads to a wake up call to both of them, because what's happening is just plain embarrassing.

Yeah, it's kind of a shame Ashirogi wasn't the one to do it, but it did prove that he was no where near their league. Or any other of the Bakuman mangaka for that matter. Even when Nakai was serialized he was doing better than this.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 20, 2011, 11:03:23 PM
Me thinks somebody be gett'n n' ass whoop'n next chapter. :humhumhum:

I really want to see Ashirogi crush Nanamine with their story. In addition to just being plain bad-ass, it'd also be a great way to show the readers just how far they have come as mangaka.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 21, 2011, 09:48:42 AM
He's gonna get crushed. He's doing the exact same thing that his readers are currently abandoning him for, and he doesn't even get it.

I can't wait to see how this plays out.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 05, 2011, 12:44:13 AM
So, yeah....he got raped by PCP....dude's lost it....
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 05, 2011, 01:22:01 AM
Classroom Of Truth was done only with 5 people? He should have stuck with 5 people. Too many cooks in the kitchen spoils the broth... Not to mention when your head chef is too busy trying to steal the krabby patty formula instead of improving his own food, this was always destined for failure.

There's nothing wrong with the team formula, after all Ashirogi is two people, but this is manga. Not a freaking corporation.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 09, 2011, 04:46:36 PM
Utter defeat. Gotta love Kosugi taking care of business here.  :sly:

Glad to see there was a positive end to all this mess after all and a good end to the arc. I'm wondering what the next one will entail, though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 09, 2011, 05:17:12 PM
Heh, I especially love the part where Nanamine threatens to call the cops and sue Kosugi, and Kosugi challenges him to go ahead and try doing it and then punches him again anyways. He really knocked some sense into the fucker.

But, it was nice to see Nanamine still have the desire to surpass Ashirogi, and it was cool that he told them that he would return to challenge them again. I'm sure we'll be seeing him come up with a work that can actually compete with PCP the next time he comes back into the story.

I'm guessing that until something like that happens, we'll probably see Ashirogi once again divert their focus into trying to come up with a new manga series that can get an anime adaptation.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 17, 2011, 08:28:11 PM
Anybody else here keeping up with Enigma? I kind of really enjoy the way it tries to carve its own path in the shonen genre, but still tries to keep it straightforward and focused on the characters first and foremost. Best of all, I really have no idea where it's going, and that's always nice.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 17, 2011, 09:14:29 PM
I'd read it, but I just haven't gotten around to it yet.

Aside from Bakuman, the only other Jump manga that I have found worth it to keep up with is One Piece, though lately it has been moving too slow-paced for my liking. To be honest, though, its really the way OP has always been, in that its arcs are full of build-up before the big pay-off portions of the story later on. I do think its cool, though, how Oda is once again addressing important arcs from the really early parts of the series, and delving into the deeper history of something only lightly referred to earlier on in the series. The really interesting thing about it is that if you actually go back and read the earlier parts of the series, you can actually notice the clues there and can see that Oda clearly had these story elements planned for quite a long time, and isn't just pulling shit out of his ass like 90% of other shonen authors do with their series these days.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 30, 2011, 09:12:20 PM
This week's chapter of One Piece was really good. I usually can't stand the standard flashback scenes in shonen manga/anime, but whenever Oda does them I must admit he handles them masterfully (in a lot of cases even better than the usual current events of the major arcs themselves).

Fisher Tiger's speech at the end was really well-done, and it didn't come off as one of those BS speeches you usually hear. He didn't ever change his mind about hating humans, but he conceded that he knew deep down his view was only relevant to some humans and not all, but his overall experience as a slave really warped his heart. Yet, even then he controlled his rage just enough to not come off as a total monster by going on a revenge quest and killing people, since he knew in the end that would only bring a worse fate upon the Fishmen. Its pretty awesome how Oda managed to craft such an epic and memorable character and tell his story pretty clearly in just a few short chapters.

Meanwhile Naruto has about a dozen flashbacks per arc and accomplishes almost nothing with them for 90% of the characters which it involves (IMO, anyways).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 30, 2011, 09:15:29 PM
At the risk of admitting I read Bleach (more like skim since a chapter takes like two minutes to look through)... This current arc seems like it's HEAVILY cribbing from Togashi, and by that I mean this arc is more or less Chapter Black.

Only with weaker characters and plotlines, obviously.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 30, 2011, 09:26:34 PM
Well, its my belief that everyone always keeps up with at least a couple of things that they don't like. For me its Naruto if only for the occasional (but extremely rare) upturn of events that actually turn out good for a few chapters....out of every 100 of them or so, and while I gave up on Bleach a long time ago, I read about people bitching and moaning about it all the time, and I have heard instances of it being heavily compared to YYH, recently. Hey, Desensitized, when that part of the manga gets published over here legally, would you consider doing a specific comparison article between that and YYH's Chapter Black arc to analyze why the concept (whatever part of CB that its paralleling) works in YYH and not so well in Bleach? Just a thought, anyways.

I wouldn't mind doing a comparison article like that myself between 2 shows that tackle similar types of themes with a certain arc or set of episodes (I was thinking of doing something like that for a good superhero cartoon as opposed to a mediocre or bad one, actually).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 30, 2011, 09:42:08 PM
My issue with Bleach is more that it takes a Lot of inspiration from Yu Yu Hakusho, but instead of living up to its legacy ended up falling way short of it due to the author simply not being a good writer.

Now while I never considered Bleach a rip off as it only really had passing resemblances to YYH other than the premise, this current arc is really showing the limit of Kubo's writing skill. The first two arcs were reasonably fine for shonen manga, but then he sort of lost the plot by including WAY too many characters, being unable to pace his plotting properly, and using a decent twist for his villain and making him a Mary Sue by making him completely dull and OP'd for no real reason.

So far the current arc has focused on repercussions from the spirit world leading certain people to acquire special skills and territories and Ichigo dealing with a new enemy who has his own power that seems to have some kind of ultimate plan of his-OH FUCK IT HE'S SENSUI. The most recent chapter had Ichigo being rescued by a kid with a game based territory that-UUUUGHHH...

Look, Chapter Black can't be improved upon by anyone but Togashi because it's pure Togashi. Oda is Oda, Toriyama is Toriyama etc... This is not Tite Kubo, this is Tite Kubo trying to copy someone else.

In fact there's only two things I had nitpicks about and they're minor stuff. I would have used the boxing kid from the early Spirit Detective arc who would be able to repay Yusuke with his own territory, and I wouldn't have used Raizen controlling Yusuke to finish off Sensui as that felt too jarring to me.

So far this arc is using very similar ideas (I'm waiting for someone to get kidnapped soon, even) and just changing around the plot a little. To be honest, it's aggravating me, but I have to know how much more he's willing to rip off here. It's getting ridiculous.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 30, 2011, 09:48:49 PM
Wow, You actually got me interested in checking out just this arc only out of curiosity to see if it really does rip-off that much (not that I would doubt you, especially since other people seem to agree on this). What chapter does the Sensui rip-off stuff start on?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 30, 2011, 09:58:24 PM
The new arc starts at 424. To be honest, he probably should have ended it right before that. It might have been a downer ending and boring as shit, but at least he wasn't rewriting an arc from a genre classic. The guy's mannerisms are even lifted from Sensui, if he used kicking attacks I probably would have learned Japanese just to flame him on twitter.  :D

The guy's a good artist and designer (despite his lack of backgrounds, use assistants dude) but man even Obata was a better writer than him and he uses Ohba for the story side now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 30, 2011, 10:09:42 PM
Well, If I'm not mistaken Obata was actually a mentor to Watsuki at one point in time (though, maybe that was only in terms of artwork). I do remember that Obata worked as a head artist on a certain manga from the 90's whereas Watsuki started out as an assistant. And yet another neat little bit of trivia is that when Watsuki was working on Rurouni Kenshin Oda was one of his early assistants before eventually starting to do early one-shot versions of One Piece (which were titled Romance Dawn), and then debuting with the series while RK was still in the middle of its serialization run.

You know, I would want to learn Japanese myself in this case, if only because I'm curious to see if any Japanese readers are actually calling Kubo out on ripping off YYH (but, then again, I'm wouldn't be surprised if they didn't seeing as how Japan seems to have completely forgotten that YYH exists and nobody there seems to give a shit about it, anymore).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 30, 2011, 10:18:44 PM
I don't know if Japanese manga fans are as savvy as comic fans are here. If someone ripped off Days Of Future Past for instance, they would be caught immediately.

Hell, Bakuman just had an arc about THIS VERY IDEA. Which wouldn't surprise me if it is what has lead to Bleach plummeting in the rankings and might have even inspired some of the parts from Bakuman's previous arc.

I'm not sure if Japan has forgotten about YYH, though. I'm sure that's a big part of the reason Togashi got so many breaks on Hunter X Hunter. Toriyama probably would have gotten the same treatment if he still wanted to make manga.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 30, 2011, 10:29:28 PM
Well, Yu Yu Hakusho was a pretty big manga for most of its run (it consistently held the #3 spot in overall rankings from around the time of its Dark Tournament arc until the end of its run). However, its not like it was close to topping something like Dragon Ball in popularity, so I still kind of find it funny that Togashi, after only doing one successful long-running shonen manga (which, by shonen standards isn't even that long), gets this kind of treatment with HXH (although, HXH as a manga was popular enough to the point that it could conceivably get this treatment since enough readers want to see it continue, even if they have to wait forever for a new chapter to come out (I believe while it ran before Togashi became a lazy fuck and took his first big hiatus, it was ranked at #2 behind One Piece in terms of popularity).

In fact, here are the 2-parts of the video documenting the top 3 manga in WSJ each 6 months since the late 1960's:

Part 1 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XIPIzB4AekA)
Part 2 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBcLKA6oNYg&feature=fvwrel)

The stuff with YYH and past that is in part 2. I also admittedly chuckled when I saw how the rankings went as soon as One Piece started running. With Dragon Ball, it at least took it a little while to get started up and then make it consistently at the #1 spot, but with One Piece....well, its just pretty hilarious how quickly it managed to catch on with readers and how insanely popular it became.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 30, 2011, 10:36:54 PM
Speaking of rip offs, I know Flame Of Recca used to be called a YYH rip off, in fact it was a lot like YYH in the early chapters before finding its own identity, but even that manga never lifted anything wholesale from Togashi and went of into its own style. What Bleach is doing is very much an attempt to be like Togashi, though I don't really know why. It might be because its a lot harder to notice the similarities unlike if he tried to copy One Piece or Naruto.

I'm still wondering how Fairy Tail is still going considering its just a generic shonen that ripped off One Piece's art completely.

To be honest, until One Piece, Naruto (which is sooner than later), and Bleach end we probably won't see much of value compete in the rankings since they pretty much soak up all the battle votes. Luckily it has lead Jump to put in more original ideas like Bakuman and Enigma slip in since they don't end up stealing votes and instead find their own audiences.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 30, 2011, 10:44:07 PM
Quote from: Desensitized on April 30, 2011, 10:36:54 PM
Speaking of rip offs, I know Flame Of Recca used to be called a YYH rip off, in fact it was a lot like YYH in the early chapters before finding its own identity, but even that manga never lifted anything wholesale from Togashi and went of into its own style. What Bleach is doing is very much an attempt to be like Togashi, though I don't really know why. It might be because its a lot harder to notice the similarities unlike if he tried to copy One Piece or Naruto.

To be honest, I don't mind an author necessarily "ripping off" a good story idea as long as he does his own thing with it and in his own style, and also adds plenty of substance to it and makes it interesting. There are many cases of famous writers having done such all throughout history (hell, The Aneid is a blatant rip-off of the famous epics of Homer, The Odyssey and The Iliad, as well as Apollonius's Argonautica, to a lesser extent, but its still considered a classic of its time because Vergil was considered a genius as a writer and purposely took those old poems to tell his own, arguably superior version of them). The problem with Bleach, though, is that Tite Kubo is not Vergil....or what I mean, is that he's not considered a genius, and that's because he isn't one. That isn't inherently a problem as long as he can come up with good ideas through planning, but he doesn't do that either. That's why his work comes off so offensively when it rips off YYH or any other shonen series.

QuoteI'm still wondering how Fairy Tail is still going considering its just a generic shonen that ripped off One Piece's art completely.

Eh, with artwork its a bit more complicated than that. It took obvious influence from the quirky nature of One Piece's artwork style, and while I haven't read the Fairy Tail myself, its pretty impossible to actually rip-off One Piece's art-style considering that it has changed drastically over the years (and inevitably the artwork of an author will start showing differences with a series that runs as long as this one does). That is to say, its still as quirky as ever (actually at times its wackier than before), but it also shows clear differences in terms of character designs and backgrounds. To be honest I prefer Oda's earlier character designs a bit, but then again some characters end up looking better while others kind of look uglier from the artwork transition, but overall that's just preference. In terms of backgrounds, though. Oda, or whoever his assistant is that handles backgrounds if that's the case, has clearly improved the artwork on that aspect of the manga tenfold from what it used to be (and it wasn't bad to begin with, so that's saying quite a lot).

Speaking of artwork, I think one of the interesting things about Oda's artwork is that the guy pays a shit-load of attention to detail, the point that its actually rewarding for readers if they pay attention to the details he puts in his art. Certain seemingly minor little things that he puts into a background or even showing on a character or right next to them or something like that can actually be a clue that comes back into play and is referenced back to several hundred chapters later.

QuoteTo be honest, until One Piece, Naruto (which is sooner than later), and Bleach end we probably won't see much of value compete in the rankings since they pretty much soak up all the battle votes. Luckily it has lead Jump to put in more original ideas like Bakuman and Enigma slip in since they don't end up stealing votes and instead find their own audiences.

Actually, if I'm not mistaken, Bleach has been plummeting in rankings lately.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 30, 2011, 10:48:49 PM
Bleach frequently rates in the middle with similar generic material like Hitman Reborn. In fact, material like Bakuman and Enigma (which frequently ranks dead center) do much better than them since while they are usually around the middle, they frequently shoot to the top of the list due to their unpredictable natures. This was the last official ranking released:

One Piece (Lead Color Page)
Bakuman
Naruto
Gintama
Beelzebub
Toriko (Color Page)
Sket Dance
Kochikame
Hq!! (One-Shot)(Color Page)
Meruhen Ouji Grim a.k.a Prince of Fairy Tale "Grim"
Magico (Color Page)
Sengoku Armors
Bleach
Inumaru Dashi
Enigma
Kateikyoushi Hitman Reborn!
Kuroko no Basket
Nurarihyon no Mago
Medaka Box
Dois Sol
Hokenshitsu no Shinigami

Color pages don't usually count in the rankings, but lets be honest... One Piece would still be #1.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 30, 2011, 10:51:17 PM
To be honest, chapters such as the most recent one that I read earlier today kind of make me feel that it actually deserves its ranking at the top. That said, to be fair, its not like I'm reading every other WSJ manga that's currently running, but aside from maybe Enigma, I doubt that any of them would change my mind (yes, while I love Bakuman, I do agree with it being ranked at #2, overall, which is still really good).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 30, 2011, 10:57:23 PM
Other than Kuroko (which is actually a pretty good sports manga), Enigma, and Bakuman. Everything else is pretty much generic shonen material. One Piece is number 1 because it manages to be both original and appeal to mainstream audiences.

I guess its a lot like Crow and Detective Trap. Both are great, just one is a bit more accessible despite both being great examples of the genre.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 30, 2011, 11:04:03 PM
With One Piece its not even that its all that original. Its ideas that we have seen in other stories before. For example, in One Piece's current arc its basic theme is racism and the characters can obviously be seen as representations of historical figures (in this case the most popular comparison are that Otohime is like Martin Luther King Jr. and Fisher Tiger is like Malcolm X.), and in this regard other stories have done stuff like this before. Its just that presenting themes like this and doing it in One Piece's particular style of story-telling is not something that you typically would see a shonen series do. I do like the idea of each of the more recent One Piece arcs having clear themes to them. I much prefer it to having each arc just feel like the author is randomly pulling another fight or plot-twist out of their asses (like....Bleach....except in this case Kubo switched things up and pulled plot points and characters out of Togashi's ass instead, that dirty little whore of a man :sly: ).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 30, 2011, 11:10:34 PM
I meant it's more original in its execution. Its pretty much standard shonen when you analyze it enough, but the way its done is what makes it so popular.  :thumbup:

Though most good authors/writers/artists plan their material out in order to give justice to the world they're presenting. Bad authors tend to throw things at the wall in order to try to scramble for votes. It's actually quite remarkable in Bakuman when Hattori tells Ashirogi off for turning in generic trash (the few times they did) when it seemed pretty on par with most of Jump's junk anyway.  >_<
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 30, 2011, 11:15:00 PM
To me, the most appealing thing about Bakuman is that the author (obviously), and the characters he writes for seem so self-aware of how tiring generic shonen really are, while also understanding that its alright to have shonen with a ton of cliches as long as they are executed well (like with Nijima and Crow), but that its also not a bad idea to actually strive for something different rather than just trying to be like everyone else (which is what Detective Trap and PCP are all about, among other things).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 30, 2011, 11:36:29 PM
It's all about execution and heart in the end. You can make the most original thing in the world, but if its made like crap, no one is going to care.

My problem is when something is so clearly lifted from something else, you can just tell from the way the creator does it that its forced to fit in a universe where it shouldn't. Either way, I hope Kubo gets a lot of shit for this arc, because he deserves to.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 30, 2011, 11:56:33 PM
You know, the announcement for the new RK anime has kind of got me thinking that it would be so awesome if Watsuki were to step up with a new series that could match the quality he put out back when he did RK. I don't care what anyone else says, but to me the fact that he did RK at all shows that he has talent. Looking at his other works, they aren't inherently bad, and each showed at least some potential, but it just didn't feel like he put his heart and passion into any of them like he did with RK. I'd REALLY love to see him actually come out with something that has as much of a soul as RK has as a series, if that makes any sense. I know deep down that he could probably do it if he really put his mind and focus into something like he did with that manga. I just feel that WSJ desperately needs that kind of talent in terms of its mainstream shonen series. Oda is a great mangaka, but one series isn't enough to keep WSJ's overall mainstream line-up from being shit, as a whole.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 01, 2011, 12:07:29 AM
Watsuki knew EVERYTHING he was doing when he made RK. The problem is everything he's done since has failed to achieve that balance RK did. BR was incredibly undercooked and boring, almost like he was rushing it out to just get it out, and his newest one seems over-thought to the point of being too muddled. They both feel like his type of story, but they don't achieve the balance of RK or reach the heights of it either.

I hold out hope he can make another manga as good as RK, because I honestly don't believe in one hit wonders in creativity. I call it untapped potential.

By the way, I cringed in that one thread on TZ when a few posters said BR was his best manga.

RK is a masterpiece of the genre and is still remembered and talked about to this day, hell its getting a new anime. BR is just another shonen that falls in line with the rest of the dreck.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 01, 2011, 12:25:30 AM
Eh, I agree that BR itself is ultimately generic shonen drek, but it still initially showed some signs of potential, for me. I think the problem is, as I said earlier, his heart clearly wasn't in his work at that point, and that's sort of what makes a shonen generic drek, and that's when you can tell that the author doesn't care that much about what they are writing and are just putting in ideas that they believe will make a series popular. We KNOW that Watsuki is a far better author than that, though. Know half-assed writer could come out with a series as brilliant as Rurouni Kenshin with such consistently good quality and call it beginner's luck. The thing is, Watsuki needs to really start giving a shit about his work, because as it stands, GW, BR, and Frankenstein all had fine enough set-ups and each initially showed some potential, but Watsuki was clearly content with just half-assing them.

In this regard, I have to give just a tad bit more credit to Togashi. I know that you don't like HXH, Desensitized, and I myself am royally pissed at Togashi for being a lazy jerk, but that doesn't go hand-in-hand with not putting his passion into his work when he actually bothers to sit down and write it, and even you can't deny that Hunter X Hunter clearly has some heart put into it. I think the best characters were really well thought out by Togashi, and while HXH does have its share of bland characters, its only when Togashi is purposely only introducing them as minor characters to service the plot and move it forward, which while not something that's preferable (but, come on, he's a great writer but he's no Urasawa), is still acceptable enough for me since all of the main characters are really interesting and I actually find myself caring about them.

Also, this is kind of off-topic, but more anime adaptations of shonen manga need to actually stop being TOO faithful (yes, I didn't mistype that, I mean what I said). As someone who reads manga and watches their adaptations (at least I used to do that a lot), I want to see it done in a way that still interests me even if I know what's going to happen. I don't like seeing the same exact story copy and pasted panel for panel and word for word (except for Monster, but there is literally no way you could have made that any better as it was as close to perfect as you can get as it was, in the manga), as that gets pretty boring to watch. I'll even give props to Death Note, even though they over-dramatized so many scenes, if only because I was still actually interested to watch the anime just to see how certain scenes were executed, and in that regard it still always managed to remain entertaining for me if nothing else. The anime adaptations for both Yu Yu Hakusho and Hunter X Hunter (yeah, both are Togashi's manga, go figure :P ) are EXCELLENT examples of anime that are faithful enough to their source material while changing around and adding in plenty of scenes to make already great works even better. In this regard, I especially have to give some props to the director of Hunter X Hunter for really going all-out with its production, from its intense action scenes that make you feel like they were intensely choreographed before remembering that its just an animated series, to the extremely well-put together filler content akin to how YYH had it done, yet it never felt like real filler in the least. We need more anime adaptations like that, IMO.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 01, 2011, 12:31:51 AM
I thought Bakuman's additions to the manga source were pretty good and had the anime not been transformed to be boring in every way they could think of, I would have considered it a contender for topping the manga.

As it stands to me, unless you're going to add on to the story in ways that improve the original manga, just don't try. Filler arcs and episodes are one thing, but shit like what Naruto and Bleach did added NOTHING to the series since everything that happens in said filler adds nothing to the long run of the show. If you're going to adapt, either do it or stick to the source, don't half ass it.

Or steal from other authors.  :humhumhum:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 01, 2011, 12:46:54 AM
In One Piece's case, a large series of its length actually call for a rotation between directors, so how good One Piece is as an adaptation is never consistent, and can really only be analyzed by segments of the series (and lately only by individual episodes), since some directors just half-ass it and are content with dragging out a single chapter's worth of material for an entire episodes WITHOUT adding any real substance to it with the opportunity for good filler that they have, whereas others take already great moments in the manga and make them infinitely better by placing in the perfect background music to fit the scene and constructing the set-up to really catch the viewer's attention.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 12, 2011, 12:58:58 AM
Oh look, Sensui (that's what I'm calling him) is interested in Ichigo's "fullbring" and wishes to use it in his plan somehow.

I swear if we learn Sensui here is a previous Shinigami like Ichigo, then someone needs to fucking raise a stink.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 12, 2011, 01:21:04 AM
I've been checking out random bits and pieces of the arc. To me it seems more like Tite Kubo is ripping off or copying (or whatever anyone wants to call it) a bunch of ideas used in the Chapter Black arc rather than actually following its plot (or, at least presenting various elements of its plot in a very different order under different circumstances, I suppose). Still, I can't help but see the various similarities, maybe because I already had them in mind, so I end up comparing it to the Chapter Black arc anyways and it just seems to be far inferior. To be fair, I haven't followed the series for over a hundred chapters before this point, and I only read random chapters and skipped others so maybe that's why it seems so disorderly to me, but knowing Bleach the way I do, I just get the feeling that its really disorderly on the whole since that's the way Bleach was when I stopped reading it.

That one guy who has hair that looks exactly like Sensui's is sort of using Ichigo right now and at least pretending to be a good guy if he really isn't one, so that's an interesting spin on the Chapter Black formula, I'll admit, but overall nothing I read was really all that engaging, and whether its ripping off Chapter Black or not, I can't even bring myself to care that much if the story is putting me to sleep. I'd actually prefer if he just shamelessly went by its overall plot and pacing, since at least that would make it more interesting to read (if only because that formula works so damn well that I can't possibly see even Kubo screwing it up if he followed it in order).

Oh yeah, I just read this week's chapter of One Piece and....yeah, I think its obvious that we'll be getting yet another big death scene in next week's chapter. It was also really interesting to see Arlong in this flashback. My favorite scene from this arc is where he told Jinbe that he was going off on his own, and challenged him to kill him if he wanted to stop him, but after beating him to a pulp Jinbe couldn't bring himself to kill Arlong despite knowing that he would completely wreck havoc wherever he went until someone else took him out (which would of course be Luffy, years later). Its a nice scene because it really put things regarding Arlong in a different perspective of sorts.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 15, 2011, 12:10:05 AM
This week's chapter of Bakuman had 2 interesting developments. One was the obvious one that I could kind of see coming, which was that the controversy would affect Takagi's writing for the worse, but it'll be interesting to see his next chapter since now he plans to conciously give a big "fuck-you" to the media by writing about a crime that's apparently almost too extreme for anyone to want to attempt, or at least that's the way that I interpeted it from this chapter.

The other interesting development is that Eiji has finally set his sights on 1st place. Well, he always had that goal, but for the first time ever he seems to want to actually think out his manuscripts like a normal writer and really make them better than just literally pulling the story out of his ass like he's been doing for his whole entire career up until this point (even though he's been extremely successful in doing it). In a way, though, I think this might initially lead to worse results for him, since I think his talents lie primarily in only being able to execute the most basic and simple story really well and very effectively, rather than thinking out something more complex and in-depth that can nab even more readers' attention and make him more popular that whatever the current best/most popular manga in Bakuman's version of WSJ is.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 15, 2011, 12:30:01 AM
Here's one reason Bakuman is so good. Takagi's hesitation was limited to the focus of one chapter showing exactly everything we needed to see, and not dragging the pacing down by making it a small arc of its own.

The best part was how he no longer seems to care what the media thinks of his work and is back to business as usual. The media reaction could be quite sweet.

The Eiji plot is nice as we haven't seen him in a while. I'm hoping we will finally see him at his wits end trying to think of a way to get the number one spot, as we have yet to see him really act any differently since the manga started, despite how much the rest of team Fukuda developed.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 15, 2011, 12:41:03 AM
Quote from: Desensitized on May 15, 2011, 12:30:01 AMThe best part was how he no longer seems to care what the media thinks of his work and is back to business as usual. The media reaction could be quite sweet.

I wouldn't say that he doesn't care. It seems more to me that he wants to specially send the media a message that no matter what they do it won't stop him from writing PCP the way that he wants to write it. Hence why I think the next PCP chapter that gets published in Bakuman's WSJ ill be a big F-U to the media.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 15, 2011, 12:54:52 AM
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on May 15, 2011, 12:41:03 AM
Quote from: Desensitized on May 15, 2011, 12:30:01 AMThe best part was how he no longer seems to care what the media thinks of his work and is back to business as usual. The media reaction could be quite sweet.

I wouldn't say that he doesn't care. It seems more to me that he wants to specially send the media a message that no matter what they do it won't stop him from writing PCP the way that he wants to write it. Hence why I think the next PCP chapter that gets published in Bakuman's WSJ ill be a big F-U to the media.
lol, I can just imagine. Knowing Takagi, this might be a surprisingly big FU. When he gets confident, he gets confident.  :thumbup:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 19, 2011, 11:46:08 PM
Just read the most recent chapter of One Piece. Eh, While its still good, I can't help but get a little tired of how 1-dimensionally evil Oda has designed the Celestial Dragons to be. As soon as they came into the plot in this flash-back, it became obvious to me how things would end. I mean, he tried to throw a curve-ball in this chapter by having Queen Otohime return alive with a documented letter allowing Fishmen to come to the surface world, but its obvious that it'll turn out to be just a ruse or something by the Celestial Dragons to lure a bunch of them out to capture as slaves again. The story itself is still good, but I just grow tired of how Oda has to make the characters he wants you to hate completely 1-dimensional with just the sole purpose of pissing people off. I actually much prefer the more rare One Piece characters like Akainu (I hesitate to call him a "villain" since, while being a Marine certainly doesn't make him or anyone a good guy by default, his overall intentions aren't that clear as to whether he fights for some greater good that he believes in or is just a total ass), since while he isn't necessarily all that complex, he strikes you as having multiple layers to his character and possibly actually having reasons for acting the way that he does, despite the fact that its made obvious that you're meant to hate him as a character.

At any rate, I think I'm kind of growing tired of the flashback in general, possibly since I already know where its going and it hasn't done anything to surprise me yet (though I did like it in execution up until Fisher Tiger's death a couple of chapters back). I really just want Oda to get back to the main plot as quick as possible, though, by this point.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 25, 2011, 07:43:17 PM
I'm kind of getting tired of the current flash-back in OP. Even Oda can succumb to the trap of making stuff like this last too long when it could be shorter, but at least it seems to be almost over. As predicted we got out next big death-scene in this chapter, but unlike the last one this one honestly didn't have as big of an impact on me, IMO. Anyways, I can't wait to see how these past events affect the story in the present (and hopefully Oda gets back to the present really soon).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 16, 2011, 08:02:20 PM
I'm reading Billy Bat and Lee Harvey himself just showed up.

This is some weird shit going on right now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 17, 2011, 03:40:36 PM
Enigma is really building up to something interesting. I'm really liking that shonen like this are still made, and still do well in the magazine.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 03, 2011, 05:06:48 PM
Quote from: Desensitized on June 17, 2011, 03:40:36 PM
Enigma is really building up to something interesting. I'm really liking that shonen like this are still made, and still do well in the magazine.
And it looks like the first arc is coming to a close only 38 chapters in. It looks like the next chapter could be very interesting for revelations.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 12, 2011, 10:15:45 PM
OK, Here's one of my problems with One Piece: while its understandable that Oda needs to keep the Straw Hat pirates off the scene for a time to set-up some despicable villains who you want to see get their asses inevitably handed to them, sometimes he goes overboard. We get it! Hodi Jones is evil. And he was already shown to be such scum that it came as no surprise that he had been Queen Otohime's true assassin in the past because we could already tell how much he hated her. Lets finally get Luffy and the others back in the picture so that we can see how they handle the situation from hear on out.

I will say that this chapter had one good moment, though, and that's when Madam Shirley pointed out to Hodi that in her prophecy Luffy would bring about the destruction of Fishman Island, so that ends up keeping Hodi and the other fishmen on edge that their own plans will get crushed by Luffy and the Straw Hat pirates while simultaneously creating a dilemma in that Luffy is destined to do what "seems" to be an evil deed by bringing about the destruction of an entire island. However, knowing Oda this is most likely just a loophole in that Luffy will destroy it in a "sense" in that he'll end up breaking down the barrier between Fishmen and Humans so it'll create the opportunity for both species to co-exist with one another instead of fear and hate each other. That's just my prediction, anyways.

Also, the twist that Madam Shirley was revealed to be Arlong's sister just felt like it kind of came out of nowhere. Unlike some of Oda's more clever twists, I don't really recall there ever having been any hints to this during earlier arcs (especially not in the Arlong arc), and overall it just seems like its an unnecessary twist that won't even have any bearing on the plot, anyways (though, I could be proven wrong since that's happened to me with this series before).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 12, 2011, 10:20:14 PM
So since Arlong was beaten before Luffy got an "upgrade" (I really wish they never went this route in One Piece), does this make him a low tier villain compared to everyone he's fighting now? Has he basically been reduced to joke cameos and the like?

This is why I dislike the idea of rankings in Japanese stuff, it degrades the importance of earlier characters and villains tremendously.

I should probably start reading again, but it would take me ages to catch up.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 12, 2011, 10:33:18 PM
Quote from: Desensitized on July 12, 2011, 10:20:14 PM
So since Arlong was beaten before Luffy got an "upgrade" (I really wish they never went this route in One Piece), does this make him a low tier villain compared to everyone he's fighting now? Has he basically been reduced to joke cameos and the like?

If you're talking about the fact that he got stronger, its not handled as cliched as you might be thinking. Its handled in a very sensible way. For a long time Luffy and his crew fought opponents who were basically on comparable levels. But yes the whole idea is that inevitably as they got deeper into the grand line they would meet higher tier characters (not just villains but other characters in general). That only makes sense because Luffy was only 17 years old when he started his journey and it'd be ridiculous to have him be on par with the older and more experienced Pirates and Marines around the world. And for all intensive purposes he still isn't. There is hardly any class system in One Piece at all and no real rankings but there are instances when some older and more experienced adventurers and soldiers are more powerful than less experienced people in the world of One Piece. The bottom line though is that its not handled the way you might be thinking it is. If you see the reasoning behind why Luffy was forced to get stronger then it makes more sense (for the longest time he got by villains that were clearly tougher than him with strategy and a bit of luck, but at one point he had to get stronger if he wanted to compete with the best Pirates in the world).

QuoteThis is why I dislike the idea of rankings in Japanese stuff, it degrades the importance of earlier characters and villains tremendously.

If that's your concern, have no worries. Arlong may be significantly weaker than Luffy and other characters are now, but his importance has not been degraded one bit. In fact he has gotten A TON of back-story in this current arc showing readers stuff we never even knew about him in the past (he's now actually a fully 3-dimensional character, and despite how despicable he is you can actually understand his actions after seeing his part of this arc's major flash-back scene).

That's the thing: characters from the past in One Piece are not often forgotten, and their importance has absolutely nothing to do with strength, but their impact on members of the main cast and the world around them. Arlong has actually been made more significant if anything, and other characters that Luffy is probably stronger than, including villains, still get plenty of weight in the world of One Piece if they are important as characters. Hell, even Buggy hasn't been forgotten (though admittedly whenever he does appear as a recurring character he is played for laughs as he is no longer even remotely threatening to Luffy, but he does also have a huge bearing on the plot at one point in the series).

QuoteI should probably start reading again, but it would take me ages to catch up.

It doesn't take quite as long as you think, actually, especially if you read the manga. If you marathon through it (not saying that you should, but its highly possible since some arcs of this series get downright addicting), you could probably catch up to the current story in a few weeks. Its still a shonen series so there is a lot of action and chapters that aren't super-heavy on dialogue, so over-all its not as much content as say, 500 chapters of something by Naoki Urasawa or Tsugumi Ohba.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 12, 2011, 10:48:31 PM
Thanks for that. I heard Arlong came back, but didn't want to derail discussion in actual One Piece threads for why.

I'll think about it when I'm done rereading HxH.

On another note one of my friends bursted through Hxh (surprising me) and wanted to know if Greed Island was the spot where Togashi stopped caring and got bored. I then told him the Chimera Ant arc (that he stopped at the beginning of) was the one where he's been stalling for years and that upset him. He wanted more Kurapika and Leorio. Can't say that I blame him.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 13, 2011, 12:02:27 AM
Quote from: Desensitized on July 12, 2011, 10:48:31 PM
Thanks for that. I heard Arlong came back, but didn't want to derail discussion in actual One Piece threads for why.

Well, he hasn't come back in the series since Luffy defeated him, but his presence as a character has been important at various points throughout the series. He's actually still considered one of OP's most serious villains since he was responsible for killing Nami's mother, so he's certainly not a character who would be taken lightly in the series. What's surprising is that he actually seems less like scum than he once did now, even if he did horrible things during his reign of terror.

QuoteOn another note one of my friends bursted through Hxh (surprising me) and wanted to know if Greed Island was the spot where Togashi stopped caring and got bored. I then told him the Chimera Ant arc (that he stopped at the beginning of) was the one where he's been stalling for years and that upset him. He wanted more Kurapika and Leorio. Can't say that I blame him.

I wouldn't say GI is where he "stopped" caring, myself. For the matter he didn't stop caring with the Chimera arc, either, until half-way into it. But I understand your friend's frustration with the absence of Leorio and Kurapika. Its not just him, but a bunch of fans have been begging Togashi to bring them back for YEARS. Seriously, I almost feel as if Togashi is going out of his way to troll his own fans by stalling this arc out as long as possible. Its so irritating that a genius like Togashi who created YYH (my favorite shonen ever), wastes such talent by being a lazy bum. He could really make something truly spectacular if he actually cared to put some effort into keeping his series running on a consistent basis and not giving up on them three-quarters of the way in.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on February 08, 2014, 12:46:43 PM
Sorry for digging up an old thread. I figured that since this was already a thing I'd just talk about the manga I currently keep up with here instead of the "What are you currently reading" thread.


There are 10 manga I'm keeping up with, though I only actually enjoy 6 of them, with the other four I'm just reading for completion's sake. Anyways, here are my thoughts on the newest chapters from this week.

All You Need Is Kill chapter 4 - I'm surprised no one here has talked about Takeshi Obata's newest manga yet. Especially since Viz was so excited about it that they're simul-releasing it in Shonen Jump Alpha. Though I was a bit disappointed that this series isn't another collaboration with Ohba, but instead an adaption of a popular japanese novel. Hollywood is turning that novel into a movie that'll be released this summer, under the title "Edge of Tomorrow" (All You Need Is Kill is a cooler name, imo, but wharves), so my guess is that the manga will run at least until the film's release.

Anyways, the plot is about earth being attacked by these creatures called "mimics." A new recruit  in the japanese defense force, Keiji Kiriya, finds himself trapped in a Groundhog Day-esque loop, relieving the events of his death on his first battle over again. However, he realizes things don't necessarily happen the same way in each cycle, and that he can change and affect what happens. He decides that the only way to beat the loop is to stay alive, so he exploits the loop by using each experience in the battle against the mimics as a means of training, since battle experience is the only way to become a better soldier and increase the odds of his survival. In chapter 3 he came to the point where he was strong enough to actually kill a Mimic, but his weapon still isn't useful in destroying large quantities of them. In the latest chapter he visits the engineer of the Defense forces' top solider in order to get her to make him a battle axe...and that's basically all that happened this week.

I'm finding the story quite interesting so far despite it's familiarity, and a lot of that is because of Obata's always excellent artwork. I particularly love Keiji's facial expressions whenever he realizes something. It is SO much like Light's whenever he concocted a scheme or was pleased with the progression of his plans. So that amuses me on a certain level. It's too early in the story to really see where it'll go, though I suspect there'll be a twist where Rita (the top soldier I mentioned) is also revealed to be trapped in the loop, but in any case I'm certainly enjoying it and it's nice to have another manga from a great artist like Obata to keep up with.

One Piece chapter 737 - I thought this was a pretty well-paced chapter. In the past few weeks they've seemed too rushed, but I think there was just enough balance of things going on in this one. I think the best bits of the chapter for me was "Lucy" talking on Burgess and the gnomes' plan to stop Sugar's ability. The latter had me laugh out loud at how ridiculous it was, but this IS One Piece so I can totally see it working (though it probably won't). I am surprised that Cavendish has been turned into a toy, especially since he was built up and had a fair amount of screen time before, which led me to believe he'd have a lot more to do in the arc. Well, he probably will, alongside the other contestants who became toys, but I haven't been able to predict a thing in this arc, so I've got no clue what else he'll do in this arc. Overall, another solid chapter, though one thing still bugs me. What happened to Kinemon? He isn't with Luffy, Zoro, and Violet anymore. Where'd he go? I like the guy and he's still got a lot left to do so his absence has me curious. Hopefully next week we'll see what happened to him.

Toriko chapters 264 and 265 - At long last, the Gourmet World arc has started! And it seems we aren't wasting any time either, despite having a 1.5 year timeskip since the end of "part 1." I admit, I was startled at the fact Komatsu was already back with Toriko. For those of you who don't know, at the end of last arc Komatsu was kidnapped by the Bishokukai alongside all the other chefs who participated in the Cooking Festival. The Bishokukai's king, Midora, gave the condition that any chef who could make him say the word "delicious" would get to go home. Komatsu was able to, but he refused Midora's offer, because he believed that Toriko would come for him. The end of part 1 of the series was Toriko getting over his defeat at the hands of Starjun and letting Komatsu be kidnapped and deciding to venture into the Gourmet World to get him back.

I'm sure everyone expected that there would be this whole arc where Toriko had to survive the harshness of the Gourmet World while taking on the Bishokukai's top brass in order to get Komatsu back; the standard rescue my friend shonen plot. Nope, no time wasted on that. Apparently Toriko got Komatsu back after only six months in the Gourment World, and then they just decided to stay there for an additional year in order to train. While this was a jarring direction to take, I think it's for the best. Midora already decided to let Komatsu leave, so it's not like he'd have any problems with Toriko coming to get him. He doesn't have anything against Toriko, and while Toriko does have much against the Bishokukai, he's not stupid enough to challenge the entire organization by himself. Deciding to just get stronger and then come back to the human world to devise as strategy with the IGO and the other heavenly Bishokuya is a much smarter and sensible idea. I do expect that we'll see a flashback at some point showing Toriko reuniting with Komatsu and maybe encountering Midora face to face, and I'll be interested in seeing that.

Chapter 265 was depressing, though. Midora's Meteor Spice totally fucked up the human world; there is no naturally growing food anymore except for Almond Cabbage. Whatever other food there are is scarce and high cost, and people have to live on food pills. And everyone looks destitute, poor, and hungry. It's fucked up. It might not seem like a big deal compared to other series, but this is Toriko we're talking about. In this manga food is the most precious thing there is. Economies, cultures, media, societies, ALL of them are founded on the abundance and appreciation of a wealth of good food. Midora's Meteor Spice destroyed EVERYTHING. Now everyone is surviving only on food pills? In the world of Toriko? That's really depressing. I didn't think Toriko of all mangas could make me feel depressed, but Shimabukuro gets the point across clear. But only just enough so that we get the idea, as the end of the chapter features Toriko's return, with him showering the Human World with the "souvenirs" he's brought back from the Gourmet World. I like how the chapter went from depressing to uplifting like that, and how fast this return is going. The next chapter should feature Toriko talking with the IGO about what he's learned about the Gourmet World. He's brought back a lot of food, but even if they can reproduce some of it, they probably won't have enough to support the whole Human World for long. I'm sure part of Toriko's problem is going to focus on remedying that, so that'll be interesting to see.

Toriko's just as great as ever, and part 2 is off to a great start. I hope the new arc will continue the trend of excellence the series has had for a good while now.

Magi chapter 213 - The tension in this chapter is so delicious. Both Sinbad and Kouen's households are totally at each other's throats, and have schemed ways of checking the others power or intimidating them. I loved Muu and Sinbad's "pleasant" conversation especially. I really feel bad for Alibaba here; he's way in over his head, and it's clear even to him that Kouen is just using him to bring Balbadd in line and get Aladdin on their side, but it's the only way he has at helping Balbadd at all. Anyway, the summit is finally starting now, with the three magi, Aladdin, Yunan, and Titus (wasn't expecting the latter to show up, but it makes sense) arriving and Aladdin finally going to tell everyone the secrets about their world. I'm guessing a flashback arc will be in order? That would be interesting to see, since we know only a bit of King Solomon's story so far. And any excuse to have Gyokuen be in the story more is a-okay in my book.   :D

Detective Conan chapter 885 - The newest mystery is kinda ridiculous. I think the manga's already done the whole boyfriend cheats on his girlfriend something bad happens to her plot about two dozen times by now, but it's the fact how the two suspects so clearly have animosity against the victim yet he's still hanging around them that makes it kinda dumb to me. Anyways, the chapter was still incredibly entertaining because it features Haibara trolling Conan and that never stops being hilarious. I loved it when Conan got that evil look on his face when he was talking about getting Amy to bug Haibara with the phone. While the newest mystery doesn't look to be that interesting, it also doesn't look like it'll last long. I really want to get back to Sera's plot soon, though. I'm dying to see what's up with that.

Attack on Titan chapter 54 - I don't know what's more stupid. The fact that they thought they could dress up Armin as Historia and fool people or the fact it actually worked or the fact that one guy fell for it so hard he actually started to molest Armin. Seriously, are these guys retarded? I guess I did get a laugh when that guy later said "I thought you were a girl...I used to be normal, but you've made me like this! You're going to take responsibility right?..." It's so stupid it turns around and becomes hilarious. That's great in a less serious series, but not really a good thing in a manga that wants you to take it seriously.

Moving on, the actual core of this chapter was pretty good. That asshole president guy who was delaying everyone's escape from the Trost arc is back and Levi's convinced him into a mutually benefitting alliance. The guy's became likable pretty quick, since he actually seems kinda smart (I mean, he actually pointed out to his grunts how stupid it was for them not to check if the Eren and Historia they kidnapped were actually them or impostors) and sympathetic since he does want to keep his company afloat and if he resists the government everyone in his company will be killed.  So that was nice. Eren and Historia's conversation didn't do much for me, but her flashback to her childhood showing a teen Ymir and a way younger Historia raises some questions about her and possibly the other psudeo-titans. I'd really like the manga to get back to addressing that stuff soon, but it looks like now it's going to focus on Levi's coup against the government, which is something that could be interesting but feels more like a distraction for some reason. Overall, it was an ok chapter a couple moments of stupid aside.

Naruto chapter 663 - Ugh, I appreciate the attempts at making Sakura seem useful, but still this whole damn situation seems like total filler. And I could care less about Karen using her Uzumaki powers or whatever bullshit. Really nothing good happening here except maybe Orochimaru being more active in the battle, but otherwise another boring ass chapter dragging this battle out longer than it needs to.

Bleach chapter 567 - I suppose it's nice to see Rukia wining a battle for once, since the last time that happened was 300 fucking chapters ago agains Aaronero. Still doesn't make it any less stupid. All the bullshit fear talk was more of Kubo's pretentious attempts to be deep again, and it doesn't even make sense because Rukia has already shown at least surprise in the damn previous chapter alone. On a certain level, though, the idea of Sode no Shirayuki's true power and Rukia becoming technically dead for a while is kinda cool, and her defeating the guy was kind of badass, but it's still not not good writing whatsoever. Sigh...I already miss the Mask de Masculine battle. At least he was entertaining with how over the top he was...

So, to cap off, here's how I'd rank this week:

1. Toriko - 9/10
2. Magi - 9/10
3. One Piece - 8.5/10
4. All You Need Is Kill - 8/10
5. Detective Conan - 7.5/10
6. Attack on Titan - 7/10
7. Bleach - 5/10
8. Naruto - 1/10

Pretty average week of manga for me.

So what are you guys keeping up with? Thoughts on your series' latest chapters?


Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Grave on February 15, 2014, 11:53:13 AM
I'm not following much (Manga interest is dwindling. Done with anime).

Bleach and Naruto are the only series I follow.

Worst chapter I've read in a while for Bleach, although I'm anticipating the next. For Naruto, I have no words for it other than why do I continue to put up with it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on February 15, 2014, 05:28:40 PM
This week was really lackluster. The fact that neither One Piece or Magi had new chapters AND the Conan translators are late with the newest chapter didn't help.

All You Need Is Kill chapter 5 - A setup chapter. It doesn't establish much aside from the fact that Kiriya is now an extremely skilled combatant thanks to going through 80 cycles of battles, though the monotony of it has bored him terribly. Basically the point of it was to establish a reason for Rita to notice Kiriya's skills and take an interest in him, which will likely mean she'll have a more active role in the story now. Was by no means a bad chapter, but wasn't very interesting either.

Bleach chapter 568 - Ugh. I thought Kubo was finally going to allow Rukia to be useful again, which is why I gave the last chapter a bit of slack, but NOPE. Rukia's whole attack was inefective and the whole chapter is her being overwhelmed by creepy Quincy. And of course Byakuya shows up to bail her out and avenge his prior defeat. Yeah, I am so excited for that no I am not fuck you Kubo. I know what the outcome will be. And I don't give a damn.

Naruto chapter 664 - God, most of this chapter was more time-wasting nonsense. Well, I guess at least that some significant things did happen. Madara disposing of the Six Path Sage's tools, them appearing before Guy's group, the fact that the half of the Nine-Tales in Minato has probably been captured now,  and then lastly Madara showing up before them. I don't care about this, because I know the end result is going to be the same, and I'm sick of the battle being dragged out so much. It's lasted nearly 100 chapters by now, with loads of distractions and other things yes, but still, and with Kishimoto's pacing I fear it going on for another 50. Like most chapters, this was a wash where I can't care about anything that happens because I'm bored and I know what ultimately WILL happen. So, yeah, another bad chapter of Naruto, like that's any surprise.

One-Punch Man chapter 34 -  A lot happened here, with the aliens being overwhelmed by the S-class heroes, some destructive beam going to be fired on them, and Saitama reaching their leader, and the telekinetic alien Gelunganshp attacking him. The maze sequence was good, but not one of the best animatic-esque scenes the manga has done so far. But while the chapter certainly moved the story forward, I can't say I felt very invested in it either. Hopefully the next chapter will be more interesting, though of course whenever Saitama fights it usually is.  :D

Toriko chapter 266 - Weeks like this make me so happy that Toriko exists. Even if this was just a setup chapter, it was still full of entertaining moments beginning to end, while moving the story along at a good pace. I don't think they've found Acacia's main dish so easily, though. It's probably hidden somewhere back in the gourmet world, instead of that treasure box. The mysterious figure in the tree will probably explain all. Other than that, I was surprised Toriko so readily agreed to marry Rin. Reminded me of Goku agreeing to marry Chi-Chi in a way, except Toriko legitimately has good reasons to want to marry Rin since she's supported him through tough times and was responsible for helping him regain his confidence after losing to Starjun and Komatsu's kidnapping, so he clearly knows she cares about him and of course he has mutual feelings. Though, of course he was quite unromantic to just agree to marry her like that, but Toriko has never been one to beat around the bush either so it makes perfectly in-character way for him to respond. Anyway, I'm glad to see the series isn't wasting time in resuming the story, and I hope the next chapter brings to light what the focus of part two's first arc will be.

Rankings:

1. Toriko - 8/10
2. All You Need Is Kill - 7/10
3. One-Punch Man - 7/10
4. Bleach - 1/10
5. Naruto - 1/10

Pretty bad week to be honest. Only the new Toriko was an enjoyable read for me. Hopefully Magi, One Piece, and Detective Conan come back next week and All You Need Is Kill is more interesting.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on February 22, 2014, 03:13:00 PM
Dammit, the translators are late with those new Detective Conan chapters! On the flipside, though, they are early with the new All You Need Is Kill, so I've got two chapters to talk about this week!

All You Need Is Kill chapter 6 and 7 - Kiriya really has become emotionally nulled after all these loops, if he could turn down casual sex with some like Rachel like that. The main point of chapter 6 was Kiriya becoming emotionally unable after suffering through 90+ consecutive loops. On the flipside, he's managed to become a hella stronger solider, even though the progress is gradual, the migraines are killer, and the pain of dying is as unbearable as ever. Still, 156 loops later, he seems to be on top of things now. He must survive this one. That's where chapter 7 comes in. Kiriya takes out a hella lot of the mimics and shows similar mercy to a fallen comrade that Rita did for him the first time he died. The end of the chapter is the most integral thing though. As I suspected, Rita knows about the loops. I'm betting the reason she's so powerful is because, like Kiriya, she's also going through them. No doubt she'll take a more active role in the story now. Looking forward to seeing how these developments play out two weeks from now.

Bleach chapter 569 - This...was actually...alright? Byakuya was legitimately badass without being obnoxiously so, and Rukia will be the one to finish As Nodt after all. Huh. Well played Kubo. First chapter I've "liked" in a hella long time. Honestly looking forward to seeing Rukia's bankai. She's been long overdue for a moment of awesome.

Magi chapter 214 - Very informative chapter. The old world was a lot different than I expected, what with all those different races and whatnot. I wonder how King Solomon managed to get humanity, "the weakest race," to prosper? And what happened to all those creatures? Lots of questions, but undoubtedly they'll be answers. Looking forward to more of the backstory. One problem I do have, though, is that there seems to be a new translator, who obnoxiously puts text bars with frivolous spammy comments that pop up on the pages after 30 or so seconds, covering up the actual text. Very obnoxious and annoying. I hope this won't be an issue next time.

Naruto chapter 665 - This..was...also alright? WHAT IS HAPPENING? I actually liked Obito asking what he meant to Madara, and defying him, choosing to be his won person than a mere extension of his will. There was still some overdrama, but otherwise, this was a very likable chapter, a rarity for this series.

One Piece chapter 738 - Hey, a chapter focused only on one plot point! Haven't seen one of those in a while. But a very good chapter too, with the battle against Sugar finally starting. I expect Ussop'll have to take her on directly next week, since the gnomes'll probably be taken out/occupied by those of them who were turned into toys. I'm also hoping for Robin to fight Trebol. That probably won't happen, but it'd be nice to see Robin get a significant fight for a change. Overall, good chapter, and hopefully next week we'll get more of the fight with Sugar.

Toriko chapter 267 - Wasn't expecting Ichiryu's full course to be completed that quickly, but man, was it awesome. The whole point of the course was to create a sustainable food supply, the ingredients used to help hatch and raise the Billion Bird and get it to re-populate quickly. With that many offspring, the Human World should no longer suffer from hunger or terrible food pills! Though they'll still need to find more food, since people can't just get sustenance from the Billion Bird alone. They'll undoubtedly have to go back to the Gourmet World for that. Otherwise, I enjoyed seeing Livebearer again, and the humor in this chapter was perfection. Two things interest me, though. The first is the old Nitro-looking creature that was watching Toriko and company form inside that tree. It'll likely play an important role in future events, and shed some light on Ichiryu's past and maybe more on the Nitros too. The second interesting thing is that we finally know what happened when Toriko found Komatsu again. The Bishokukai had already left somewhere, except for one...Midora. I REALLY want to know how that meeting went down. Obviously they didn't fight, but I can only wonder what Midora must have said to Toriko. Hopefully Shimabukuro reveals more about the Bishokukai's intentions and goal in the  Gourmet World soon. Otherwise, another great chapter, as always. I gotta say, Toriko really is the most fun manga in Jump right now.

Rankings:

1. Toriko - 10/10
2. All You Need Is Kill - 9/10
3. One Piece - 9/10
4. Magi - 9/10
5. Naruto - 8/10
6. Bleach - 7/10


So yeah...a pretty good week. A tremendous step up from last time. Not a single one of these chapters failed to entertain on some level, and Naruto and Bleach of all things managed to be competent for once, a rarity! Hoping the translators FINALLY put up new Conans next week, and otherwise, just hoping for more goodness all around.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on February 27, 2014, 07:42:02 PM
It seems that Magi is about at the halfway point in it's story. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2014-02-27/magi-manga-creator-teases-death-of-characters) With all that went down in Magnostadt, and King Solomon's backstory finally being revealed, I expected as much. It'll still be running for about 5 more years, at any rate, and since the manga has only gotten better and better as it's gone on I eagerly await what Ohtaka has in store.

One interesting thing to note is that she plans to kill off some characters as the story goes forward. This makes sense considering a war of some sort is inevitable at this point, though it's a toss-up as to who will have to go (though I have my bets...).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 01, 2014, 10:19:44 AM
Still no new Conan scans. Plus, since they were early last week with the new All You Need Is Kill, I don't have a new chapter to talk about this week. In spite of that, it was far from a bad week.

Bleach chapter 570 - As Nodt was taken out too quickly. I would've liked more of a battle. I didn't care for his backstory since it was yet another one of Kubo's failed attempts to be deep and make his villains sympathetic which always rings false to me. I do like Rukia's bankai form. She looks a lot like Sode no Shirayuki did in the Zanpaktou Rebellion arc in the anime, which is neat. I guess the most interesting thing about the chapter was Yachiru actually doing something for once and punching that one quincy. Maybe we'll finally see her fight? Nah, this set up is clearly for Kenpachi to come to her rescue. It's pretty obvious. I can't say I hated this chapter this week either. Wonder how long that'll last.

Magi chapter 215 - The secret of Alma Thorran was a lot different than I expected, what with all those other races and having it's own god and everything. The most disturbing scene in the chapter was those giant trolls using honey covered sticks to scrape up live humans and put them in jar containers, like some kind of ants. That's easily more fucked up than anything in Attack on Titan so far. I would've liked to see HOW King Solomon united all the races under his rule, instead of just jumping forward to that. I still want to know how the Djinns became Djinns too, but that should come in time. I seriously wonder what Gyokuen did to destroy Alman Thorran and just who she was talking too in this chapter. I also still want to know what Ithnan's deal is, and why he was one of the few residents of Alma Thorran that was transferred to the new world. Suffice to say, it was a very interesting chapter that answered questions and then raised more. I expect even more surprises next week.

Naruto chapter 666 - Um, this wasn't a bad chapter, but it also wasn't an interesting one. I can't buy Obito's hell face turn like this. It's too sudden and while it makes sense it leaves no impression or impact to me, though a lot of that's because he was a shitty ass villain in the first place. I didn't really care about anything that happened in this chapter as a result even though Kishimoto clearly tries to make it seem meaningful. At least this whole Naruto is dying thing should end soon now. And with Guy on the scene, presumably with the Sage of Six Paths' tools, hopefully this means the end is near for this battle. I can only hope....

One Piece chapter 739 - I was hoping for Ussop to fight Sugar and Robin to fight Trebol, but instead the dwarves got captured. Hopefully they'll get to fight next week, though. Lots of information was told in this chapter. I'm not sure what I think about Solider-san being the gladiator who won 3,000 matches, since I don't remember any set-up for that before. I do hope Rebecca won't go down this easily, but since this match'll probably turn into a three against one fight against Diamante hopefully she can get out as the last one standing in the end. Overall, good chapter, lots of stuff going down and revealed, and honestly, this is probably the best chapter since Luffy vs. Don Chiouji (or whatever his name was).

One-Punch Man chapter 35 - Wow, finally an opponent Saitama can't defeat with one punch. This fight should be interesting. Gelguganship died easily, as expected, but it was still fun to see. Not sure I find what happening with Genos and Blizzard's group to be that interesting by comparison, but it still is good stuff. A solid chapter overall.

Toriko chapter 268 - And so Toriko finally has the drink in his full course menu! Not much to say about this one. A slow chapter, but one crammed with good sentiment and humor. Those eyelashes...  :lol:

Rankings:

1. One Piece - 10/10
2. Magi - 9.5/10
3. Toriko - 9/10
4. One-Punch Man - 8.5/10
5. Bleach - 6/10
6. Naruto - 5/10

Not as good as last week, but for the most part still enjoyable. Hopefully they finally upload the new Conan chapters next week. It's been like a month already...
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 04, 2014, 11:04:05 PM
Ooh, looks like Viz is licensing Assassination Classroom. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-03-04/viz-adds-assassination-classroom-resident-evil-manga)

No surprise, since it was pretty much the number two series in Jump for the nearly the entirety of last year, and the seventh highest grossing manga in volume sales for the first half of 2013. It's easily Jump's biggest new hit and since it's young and in it's prime it should grow in popularity yet. Nice to see a comedy manga become a hit instead of another battle-shonen, at the every least. It'll be interesting to see if the series catches on in the U.S. as well.

It's still odd that Viz hasn't licensed Kuroko yet, though. Maybe Slam Dunk didn't do well for them...
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 04, 2014, 11:06:20 PM
Sports anime/manga do horribly here. Even classics like Slam Dunk.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 04, 2014, 11:13:46 PM
Hmm, that's true. Probably why we'll never see the Hajime no Ippo (among other) manga licensed here. A shame really. I would love for Vertical or somebody to take a chance at important, classic titles in the genre like Ashita no Joe, but of course, that'll never happen (especially since Vertical's recent survey says they are only interested in getting series published after 2002 right now anyway...).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 04, 2014, 11:17:00 PM
Yeah, two things that do badly here are sports manga/anime and classic manga/anime which is why Case Closed and Lupin fell off so hard so fast.

As much as I would like to see more classics out here I'd say anything from pre-2000 not named Akira has little to no chance since otaku here simply won't buy it. Not even Tezuka stuff.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 04, 2014, 11:33:46 PM
It's just a sad truth, unfortunately. Unless they came out with a new anime adaptation for Ashita no Joe or other classic series from that era, and it actually did REALLY well on CR or something of that nature (which is highly unlikely as it is), the chances of any of those series getting licensed is literally zero. I can't exactly blame the publishers, but I wish there was a way to get more western fans for some of these series.

I'm just grateful for the excellent fan translations we've been getting for both the AnJ manga and both anime series. They really are a labor of love, and although the manga releases are slow and infrequent, they are of such good quality that you could almost swear that they were translated by official employees of Viz, themselves.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 04, 2014, 11:37:12 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 04, 2014, 11:17:00 PM
Yeah, two things that do badly here are sports manga/anime and classic manga/anime which is why Case Closed and Lupin fell off so hard so fast.

As much as I would like to see more classics out here I'd say anything from pre-2000 not named Akira has little to no chance since otaku here simply won't buy it. Not even Tezuka stuff.

Well, Viz is still putting out Case Closed, so it's clearly selling well enough for them. Take it from this ever sad Bobobo and Oishinbo fan; if a series ain't selling it's worth for Viz, they ain't going to bother with putting it all out, especially if it's a long runner.

But I think you are being a bit pessimistic about classic manga, or, at least, Tezuka manga. Digital Manga Publishing has been on an absolute roll with kick starters to help release previously untranslated Tezuka manga like Barbara, Unico, and Swallowing the Earth, and they plan to release even more of his overlooked stuff in the future, while Vertical has re-released Princess Knight and Twin Knights recently and holds the license to some of his other works like Black Jack and Buddha. Not to mention Viz is releasing digital volumes of Phoenix now too. There is clearly some market for classic manga, though it's admittedly not that big and so far limited to Tezuka stuff. Still, I would love to see DMP and Vertical branch out from just releasing classic Tezuka and take on other notable classics, though it seems unless it's relatively short they are hesitant to do so.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 04, 2014, 11:41:25 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on March 04, 2014, 11:13:46 PM
Hmm, that's true. Probably why we'll never see the Hajime no Ippo (among other) manga licensed here. A shame really. I would love for Vertical or somebody to take a chance at important, classic titles in the genre like Ashita no Joe, but of course, that'll never happen (especially since Vertical's recent survey says they are only interested in getting series published after 2002 right now anyway...).

Well, with HnI at least we were fortunate enough to get the anime about a decade ago (and with a surprisingly decent dub, IMO). The first anime is the best part of the entire series, anyways, and IMO it is superior to the manga. The manga itself really fluctuates in quality past the Championship Road arc, with some really high points and low ones as well, but never quite reaching the heights of anything up to Ippo's 2nd title shot.

The manga is also ridiculously long, being currently at over 1,000 chapters and still going; although it at least looks like it has a clear ending in site, even if that ending could still take a few hundred more chapters to get to at the current pace this series moves at.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 04, 2014, 11:47:35 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on March 04, 2014, 11:37:12 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 04, 2014, 11:17:00 PM
Yeah, two things that do badly here are sports manga/anime and classic manga/anime which is why Case Closed and Lupin fell off so hard so fast.

As much as I would like to see more classics out here I'd say anything from pre-2000 not named Akira has little to no chance since otaku here simply won't buy it. Not even Tezuka stuff.

Well, Viz is still putting out Case Closed, so it's clearly selling well enough for them. Take it from this ever sad Bobobo and Oishinbo fan; if a series ain't selling it's worth for Viz, they ain't going to bother with putting it all out, especially if it's a long runner.

But I think you are being a bit pessimistic about classic manga, or, at least, Tezuka manga. Digital Manga Publishing has been on an absolute roll with kick starters to help release previously untranslated Tezuka manga like Barbara, Unico, and Swallowing the Earth, and they plan to release even more of his overlooked stuff in the future, while Vertical has re-released Princess Knight and Twin Knights recently and holds the license to some of his other works like Black Jack and Buddha. Not to mention Viz is releasing digital volumes of Phoenix now too. There is clearly some market for classic manga, though it's admittedly not that big and so far limited to Tezuka stuff. Still, I would love to see DMP and Vertical branch out from just releasing classic Tezuka and take on other notable classics, though it seems unless it's relatively short they are hesitant to do so.
It's not that companies won't do it, but the return on such series has never been all too strong. It's why Lupin and Case Closed lasted almost no time at all on TV. Anime/manga audiences usually aren't enough to pull series to completion unless they're mega-sellers or short, at least historically.

If Ashita no Joe or Area 88 was licensed tomorrow I and many other people would preorder it without thinking about it, but would people like us be enough?

Digital is nice and all that, but it really isn't for me. If they can't put out printed copies then that just proves my point that the audience is too small to cater to not to mention there are other people out there who won't buy a series until it is complete because (quite justly) they'd be worried about throwing away their money on an incomplete product.

I want there to be an audience for classic material that extends into general market presence, but even back when it started taking off stuff older than Dragon Ball was having problems selling. Now that goalpost has moved even further forward. It just doesn't bode well for classics in my opinion.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 04, 2014, 11:48:54 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 04, 2014, 11:17:00 PM
Yeah, two things that do badly here are sports manga/anime and classic manga/anime which is why Case Closed and Lupin fell off so hard so fast.

Well, as far as Sports manga go, I do recall that Eyeshield 21, Hikaru no Go, and Prince of Tennis all did pretty decently for Viz (at least good enough for them to finish releasing each of those series).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 04, 2014, 11:52:18 PM
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on March 04, 2014, 11:48:54 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 04, 2014, 11:17:00 PM
Yeah, two things that do badly here are sports manga/anime and classic manga/anime which is why Case Closed and Lupin fell off so hard so fast.

Well, as far as Sports manga go, I do recall that Eyeshield 21, Hikaru no Go, and Prince of Tennis all did pretty decently for Viz (at least good enough for them to finish releasing each of those series).
Mostly I'm just going on comments representatives of companies have made in the past that they have the hardest time with older series and sports series.

I'm basically going on the assumption that the market has only narrowed with time and not expanded since otaku related material becomes more and more insular every year.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 05, 2014, 12:00:20 AM
Yeah I suppose. I think there was a surge of people getting into anime and manga about a decade ago, which is when we got the biggest variety of releases from all of the publishers (especially Viz), since they could afford to experiment with different kinds of series. That said, these days the market has narrowed after a good portion of casual fans lost interest and got burned out on anime, so now that the market is niche once again, then any series that can't prove to be an instant hit is pretty much doomed to obscurity over here.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 05, 2014, 12:03:17 AM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 04, 2014, 11:47:35 PM


Digital is nice and all that, but it really isn't for me. If they can't put out printed copies then that just proves my point that the audience is too small to cater to not to mention there are other people out there who won't buy a series until it is complete because (quite justly) they'd be worried about throwing away their money on an incomplete product.

Um, Digital Manga Publishing HAS been releasing their Tezuka stuff in print.  If I wasn't several states away I would hop on over to my school library right now, snap a picture, and show you the proof. ;)

But yes, it is a shame there isn't a big enough market for older manga series. Anime/manga is just not popular enough anymore among casual folk for there to be a sustainable market for anything but mainstream and modern stuff. I will gladly take all the Tezuka DMP and Vertical throw at me, but I'd too love to have a better variety of older stuff in print, which is unlikely to happen.


Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 05, 2014, 12:09:47 AM
Oh, that's cool. I assumed digital meant digital comics. We don't tend to get that stuff up here at all.

I do wish more classics could be released in full. I don't buy too much manga, but I would change that for certain series without question.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Foggle on March 07, 2014, 02:08:26 PM
I just read the most recent chapter of Attack On Titan. Half of it was a moderately graphic scene of the protagonists torturing someone. How is this acceptable for children?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 07, 2014, 02:46:29 PM
Well, manga for "children" (aka little kids under 10 years of age) would be kodomo series. Attack on Titan is shonen, and technically shonen series are intended for pre-teen and teenage boys, and no matter the country, boys that age positively welcome explicit violence in their entertainment.   :sly:

...I've just skimmed the chapter. Eh, I think I've read worse in Black Butler and far more offensive in Fairy Tail.  :P
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 07, 2014, 03:43:41 PM
It's actually a common misconception that shounen series are aimed at or meant for children. While some can appeal to younger readers, the vast majority are aimed at the demographic between 12-18 years of age. Going by that logic, it's no wonder that AOT is so popular. Adolescents just eat that hyper-violent shit up, and are much easier to fool into thinking that something is mature, deep, and well written when it really isn't. I would know, as I was just like that during that particular phase of my life. Needless to say, I just cringe at the thought of it these days.

As for AOT, though, just like CX, I've seen far worse from shounen series. If you don't believe me, just check out the first third of the Chimera Ant arc from HXH. It's absolutely appalling how needlessly cruel it can be.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 07, 2014, 03:57:33 PM
Quote from: Foggle on March 07, 2014, 02:08:26 PM
I just read the most recent chapter of Attack On Titan. Half of it was a moderately graphic scene of the protagonists torturing someone. How is this acceptable for children?
Have you been reading Vinland Saga? Go read that instead.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 07, 2014, 04:09:05 PM
I thought Foggle's complaint about that AOT scene was referring to how it's more on the grounds of plausible torture violence.  The stuff that happens in the early Chimera Ant arc, while often cruel, is still more along the lines of fantasy violence, which is nothing out of the ordinary in shonen manga.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 07, 2014, 03:57:33 PM
Have you been reading Vinland Saga? Go read that instead.

Read All You Need Is Kill and One-Punch Man too. I want to have some discussion about the mangas I'm keeping up with, and those series are seinin so I should expect less reservations.  :P

On the shonen manga side, I've been finding new chapters of Toriko and Magi better than One Piece's, nowadays. I've felt that way about Toriko for about a year and a half now, actually.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 07, 2014, 06:05:34 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on March 07, 2014, 04:09:05 PM
I thought Foggle's complaint about that AOT scene was referring to how it's more on the grounds of plausible torture violence.  The stuff that happens in the early Chimera Ant arc, while often cruel, is still more along the lines of fantasy violence, which is nothing out of the ordinary in shonen manga.

Let's see:
-Disecting someone's brain and then butchering them alive
-Mutating humans into deformed Chimera Ants that pull an Alien with their "kill me..." pleas to the Phantom Troupe
-Killing a little girl's parents in front of her and and then killing the girl herself and eating her brain

Yes, you're right CX. That's COMPLETELY ordinary for a shounen manga! Why, remember when they did that just the other day for One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, and every other currently running WSJ manga? :humhumhum:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 07, 2014, 06:09:17 PM
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on March 07, 2014, 06:05:34 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on March 07, 2014, 04:09:05 PM
I thought Foggle's complaint about that AOT scene was referring to how it's more on the grounds of plausible torture violence.  The stuff that happens in the early Chimera Ant arc, while often cruel, is still more along the lines of fantasy violence, which is nothing out of the ordinary in shonen manga.

Let's see:
-Disecting someone's brain and then butchering them alive
-Mutating humans into deformed Chimera Ants that pull an Alien with their "kill me..." pleas to the Phantom Troupe
-Killing a little girl's parents in front of her and and then killing the girl herself and eating her brain

Yes, you're right CX. That's COMPLETELY ordinary for a shounen manga! Why, remember when they did that just the other day for One Piece, Naruto, Bleach, and every other currently running WSJ manga? :humhumhum:
Sigh, Togashi...
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 07, 2014, 06:12:28 PM
How much have you read/watched of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure?  :D

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 07, 2014, 06:36:05 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on March 07, 2014, 06:12:28 PM
How much have you read/watched of JoJo's Bizarre Adventure?  :D

Not much, but I've read enough of most other shounen manga to know that the shit that goes on in the Chimera Ant arc is most certainly not an ordinary thing in most fantasy shounen series. Furthermore, JoJo is now a seinen manga because of its content, and if the earlier parts of the manga were made today, they also most likely would've been considered seinen due to modern standards being different (and apparently not making any sense).

Nice try attempting to save face and make us forget about what you said, though. :>
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Foggle on March 07, 2014, 08:40:16 PM
I haven't gotten to Chimera Ant yet and usually JoJo's is insane and over the top enough to not be disturbing. Also, the torture in AoT is actually being performed by the heroes, who you're still expected to like after it's over. Then again, given the writer's stance on Nanking and WW2 in general, that isn't much of a shock.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 07, 2014, 11:04:49 PM
Well, I remember seeing stuff just as bad as that in other shonen before, but since I can't find/remember anything on that level,  I will admit defeat, though I don't find the scene where the chimera-ant turned humans begging for death that disturbing and the scene with the little girl being killed came off more as an attempt at dark comedy to me (what with Pitou clapping his hands in the side of the panel and all).  If he ever finishes Hunter X Hunter (yeah, right), maybe Togashi should make a horror comedy manga.  :D

But regardless, the torture scene in the newest Attack on Titan chapter is violence that can be potentially imitated (and isn't that unbelievable from real torture methods) and is performed by the protagonists, whereas most of the disturbing stuff in early Chimera Ant is stuff done by villains and not something you'd expect to happen in real life. That's why it's more on the grounds of plausible violence and more questionable material to have in a shonen series, even though the Chimera Ant stuff is more gruesome. My original point, before I undermined it with a pointless attempt at humor by referencing Jojo, was that difference, which I see as a clear separation of plausible and fantasy violence, and that the latter, no matter how gruesome, isn't as dangerous or uncomfortable for young audiences to read than the former, especially considering these examples since in Titan it's the protagonists performing the violence whereas in Hunter X Hunter it's the villains.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 07, 2014, 11:10:15 PM
The trouble Ashirogi Muto got into for PCP seems so small in comparison.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 11, 2014, 02:11:24 PM
Almost forgot to comment on last week's manga. Since I caught up with Assassination Classroom, I'll start talking about new chapters of that series too.

Assassination Classroom chapter 80 - It's nice to see Kaede get some focus. She usually gets relegated to gag bits, so seeing her be active in an assassination was nice. Her plan to trick Korosensei with bomb-laced pudding was actually pretty brilliant, considering he always lets his guard down when it comes to sweets. Lots of good humorous bits in this chapter, and it's nice to see Kaede's strengths as an assassin be explored. I like these kinds of chapters. I don't know if they'll be another more breather chapter this week, but I certainly wouldn't mind.

Attack on Titan chapter 55 - Okay...I barely remember this chapter. Aside from seeing our heroes torture a guy, it was kind of a slog to read, honestly. It takes too long to get to the points that "the government is corrupt and only wants to protect the privileges of the elite," "the government is covering shit up," "the government wants to exploit Eren's titan powers," "the government is EVIL DO YOU GET IT YET HURR FURR DURR," "we want a bloodless revolution even though we don't have a good plan to execute one," "we are bad people now cause we have to torture some guys boo hoo," blah blah. All this could have been told more effectively in a third of the time it took. I guess it's interesting that the Reiss family is the true royal line and they want to get Historia to succeed the throne, but overall it was a boring as hell chapter. 

Bleach chapter 571 - Yachiru kicks ass in this chapter. I absolutely cannot hate that. It is just too hilarious and awesome and long overdue. So, another chapter that I liked it.
I don't know how this is happening, but it is. I'm almost disturbed.

Detective Conan chapter 888 - First new translated chapter in a month...and they completely skipped the last mystery. Hmm. Well, this one is way more fun, because Bourbon is back! And man, Conan is really screwing up around him. I think it's only a matter of time before Bourbon deduces his true identity, and that's when shit is gonna hit the fan. This new case is going to be interesting, since Bourbon will be watching Conan very closely this time. Should be interesting to see how it develops.

Magi chapter 216-217 - I've already read the newest chapter, so I'll just combine my thoughts on that one too. King Solomon is who I expected him to be, a no-nonsense but good person who wants all the races to live in equality and is fighting against the magi tools used by human magicians to subjugate the other races. Sheba seems important. I like that she ends up realizing her view on the other species is wrong when she plays with that child manticore. She seems like she'll develop an interesting relationship with Solomon and Ugo. One thing that really has me curious, though, is Ithnan being so loyal to Solomon. I really, really wonder how he ends up on Gyokuen's side later on. That'll be interesting to see.

Naruto chapter 667 - So Kabuto broke free of the Izanami...by accepting who he is? And he's made a complete hell face turn? And is healing Sauske to redeem himself? No. Fuck that convenient ass shit. And then the rest of the chapter...why is Guy here? Why does he need to fight against Madara? Why do we need to see him try and sacrifice himself next time? This is just padding. The only purpose of Guy being here is basically to bring the Sage of Six Paths' tools WHICH MADARA JUST LEFT BEHIND FOR NO GOOD REASON to help use in his defeat. That's what I assume the point of that scene was. So just get Naruto and I guess Sasuke healed and do that already, Kishimoto. We do not need to see Guy try and fight against Madara with no set-up or reason. Do I even need to point out that this completely takes away the focus from Obito's redemption, and his and Kakashi's teamup, completely weakening the effectiveness of that. Ugh, terribly written chapter full of nonsensical bullshit. Why won't this battle end already... :gonk:

One Piece chapter 740 - Okay, no, NO. What the fuck, Oda? Ussop should NOT be running away from his opponents at this point. He is NOT that cowardly anymore. The last time he ran away from a fight was in the battle with Mrs. Merry Christmas and Mr. 4 over 550 chapters ago. He might still get scared, but he's long past running away from a fight and will especially try and pull through if his friends are in danger. This is a horrible regression of his characters and near ruins his character arc, which is by far the best and most consistent of any character in the manga, for me. I cna only hope this is remedied somehow this weak, but I have never, NEVER been so mad at something in One Piece as I am at this. Oda should know better of his characters than this! This just proves to me that he doesn't know how to write any of the Strawhats besides Luffy well anymore. This saddens me greatly.

The rest of the chapter was good though. Zoro vs. Pica. Baby 5 trying (and failing) to torture and question Law. Seeing Kinemon impersonate Doflamingo in order to find Kanjorou. Luffy and Violet meeting up with Soldier and now lying in wait for Sugar's defeat so they can strike. Robin being turned into a toy by accident, and the rest of the tontatta being captured...really good stuff here. Which is why that last page so goddamn infuriates me. Oda better have Ussop get his shit together next chapter. If not, there's gonna be hell to pay, I tell you what.

Toriko chapter 269 - Lots of fun stuff here! Toriko reunited with Terri, how he was discovered by Ichiryu revealed, Setsuno and Jiro waiting for Toriko and company in the Gourmet World, Komatsu accepting a meal from Nono...a perfect set-up and breather chapter in one. The Bishokuya should all be heading to the Gourmet World in the next chapter or so, and I'm excited for that. Another solid chapter.

Rankings:

1. Toriko - 10/10
2. Assassination Classroom - 9.5/10
3. Magi - 9/10
4. Detective Conan - 8/10
5. One Piece - 7/10
6. Bleach - 7/10
7. Attack on Titan - 2/10
8. Naruto - 1/10

Never thought I'd be ranking OP that low and Bleach that high, but them's the breaks I suppose. It was, for the most part, a pretty good week of manga. Hopefully OP will make up for last week this week, and just want more solidness from Toriko, AC, Magi, and DC. And I have to wonder how long Bleach being "fun" to read is going to last...


Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 15, 2014, 04:10:54 PM
This week wasn't as good as last week, but the good was very good, at least.

Assassination Classroom chapter 81 - I love it when Karasuma and Korosensei work together to help train the students. Now, I think the ability they are honing is a little too unrealistic, but then again this is a manga where a yellow octupus alien who can fly at mach 20 and destroyed the moon is a ridiculously nice middle school teacher. Anyway, this chapter was full of great bits. My favorite part was when Bitch-sensei thought about pushing Karasuma into the water when she found him and get "hot and heavy" with him, and Karasuma just pushes her head into the water in the middle of her talking to herself. And that final line, "The strongest human and strongest creature...they're coming to attack us and give us more homework!"  :lol: Hilarious chapter all around.

Bleach chapter 572 - So creepy guy is thought out of existence by bishie guy, and Yachiru is made useless again, and Kenpachi returns right at the end as I expected (so I guess Unohana really is dead...unless she isn't. This is Bleach after all.) Yeah, boring and lame ass chapter. Guess Bleach is back to being bleh again. All is "right" with the world.

Naruto chapter 668 - Why do we have to care about this? Why do we need Might Guy's backstory right now? Really, why? Why is Guy important again all of a sudden? The focus should be on Obito and Kakashi shouldn't it? This focus shift and unneeded backstory stuff is just incomprehensible to me. Ugh.

One Piece chapter 741 - Ugh, we've seen all this before Oda, and again, Ussop should be past this. This schtick of him returning to help people believing in him despite his cowardice is something that should not be at this point because his character development up until recently showed he was no longer afraid of jumping into battle when the need arose. This is just pointless character regression, and it hurts me especially because Ussop is by far my favorite character in the series. And aside from that we get Soldier/Kyros' backstory, which honestly doesn't tell us anything we needed to know about him and just feels like filler to me. A pretty bad chapter this week, sadly.

One-Punch Man chapter 44 - Blizzard is a total badass. I love how she so easily stopped the bullet meteor things by herself when no one else could. It seems Silver Fang is really hurt, though. I wonder if it'll be serious. The most important thing, though, is Engine Knight tell Genos that Metal Knight is actually an enemy and can't be trusted. I wonder what his deal is, or if Engine Knight can even be trusted himself. Hmm.

Toriko chapter 270 - I suspected Toriko and co. would return to the site of Ichiryuu's final ingredient and go into that tree-house to talk with the inhabitant. I expected it to be a Nitro, but I didn't expect it to be a talking Nitro with a cranky attitude and an old sense of humor. Interesting. Since he clearly knows Ichiryu, I wonder what he can tell Toriko and the others about GOD and the Gourment World. Next week should be revelatory.

Rankings:

1. Assassination Classroom - 10/10
2. One-Punch Man -  9/10
3. Toriko - 9/10
4. One Piece - 4/10
5. Naruto - 1/10
6. Bleach - 1/10

Compared to last week, this week was pretty bad, but that Assassination Classroom was so good, it more than makes up for it. I have already re-read it quite a few times, even. I'm glad I'm keeping up with the series now. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 15, 2014, 07:06:28 PM
The to say it, but it's what I've been saying for a while, now. Oda really just doesn't develop these characters past their initial arcs. It's true. When you stop to think about it. We see them act out their little quirks for comedic effect with each new arc, but what do we see change about them? We still go through the routine of the weak trio of characters getting scared easily but then standing up for someone else when the time comes. We've seen other characters have to deal with tough situations and make tough decisions, but everything always comes out OK in the end, which doesn't force any of them to change. The biggest disappointment came after the time-skip. Luffy should at least be somewhat different after Ace's death, but he's just the same character except stronger. Even Son Goku wasn't really the same kind of character he was as a kid when DB had its time-skip into his adult years (though he still acts as immature as a kid :P).

Oda, you've done a good job making the same formula actually interesting for way longer than it should've been, but ever since the Fishman Island arc, it has really been running thin for me.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 15, 2014, 07:18:55 PM
Eh, I think Ussop and Nami at least had very good character development up until the timeskip. I will elaborate on that later when I have the time. I will agree about everyone else though, especially about being disappointed on how little Luffy had changed after the timeskip. I mean, even fucking Naruto became a different character than he was at the beginning of the series after that series' timeskip (not that he's a good character, mind you, but I'll give him credit for having actual character development).

Somebody else really needs to start reading One-Punch Man, All You Need Is Kill, Toriko, Magi, and/or Assassination Classroom or I need to finish catching up on Kuroko. It'd be nice to have a discussion on a currently running manga in their prime for once instead of just the occasional "One Piece isn't as good anymore" talk.   :sweat:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 17, 2014, 05:40:09 PM
Well I was on season 2 of Magi, but I still need to get back to it on CR (as well as Space Brothers, for that matter). After I finish season 2, I'll catch up to the manga. As for Toriko, I'll probably start the manga for that in May, after I finish my final rotation, assuming that I've at least managed to line-up a job by then.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 23, 2014, 07:44:21 PM
Toriko and One Piece were absent, Conan is late again, and the rest haven't updated either. On the plus side, it was a quality week, for the most part.

All You Need Is Kill chapters 8 and 9 - I apparently missed the AYNIK last week, so I have two chapters to talk about this week. Both feature Rita's backstory, which I quite like. She was a normal, regular old person, and in just one night her life was completely turned upside down, spurring her into the single-minded goal of revenge against the Mimics. I find it interesting that her real name isn't even Rita, and it's a stolen identity she used so that she could join the defense force despite being underaged. I think the most interesting thing out of these chapters is the hints as to what's causing the loops. Rita's loop started when she killed an odd Mimic with an antenna, and in each progressive loop that Mimic is increasingly guarded and aware of her moves, so it has to have been it that caused her loop to being with. That's interesting, especially since it's the complete opposite of Kirya's experience, since he loops after a Mimic kills him, whereas Rita loops when she kills that Mimic. It'll be interesting to see how those seemingly contradicting events are related. Excellent chapters.

Assassination Classroom chapter 82 - Korosensei is such a great character. I love how he's always trying to make the students grow and improve, like in this chapter, giving them advice on how to  better their evasion techniques and hinting at how they could outwit him and Karasuma. The funniest parts, of course, were him being so easily bribed and fooled by the students and letting them escape from the jail zone. It's clear he doesn't care about winning the game, so long as the students get experience out of it. Seeing them fool Karasuma was surprising, since they obviously couldn't best his speed or technique, they needed to find a way to exploit his and Korosensei's limitations to win. I wonder if next week will start a longer story arc, or if they'll have more short, but funny stories for a while. Hard to tell, but this series is so in the zone that whatever happens is bound to be enjoyable.

Bleach chapter 573 - Isane's comment is just harsh and out of character. She should be more emotional about Unohana being dead, seriously. Worse than usual dialogue in this chapter. One some level I do like how Kenpachi can cut down a guy who's very power is that everything happens how he imagines it too, which should be unbeatable and stuff, but it's still stupid and it doesn't help that the villain is yet another one of Kubo's lame over the top evil bishie baddies. Meh.

Magi chapter 218 - I'm liking Sheba more now. Seeing her befriend the Momo and then being guilty of what she had done to them in the past, but not having the courage to tell them about it, and hating herself for it, was some good moments. But I loved the fact that, to rub salt in the wound, a magician appears and turns them into mindless beasts again, and Solomon knew this was going to happen, and let it. Solomon is a pretty cruel dude in some ways. I find it especially interesting that the whole mess was actually Solomon's and co's fault in the first place, since they were the ones who initially gave the magic power to those towers, though I doubt they thought it was going to be abused like that by the magicians. I'm not sure what is meant by them being "the avatars of the divine states," though I'm sure that'll be explained next chapter, which also promises an epic magic battle, which of course it's sure to deliver.

Naruto chapter 669 - I still don't get why Guy is so important again. I mean, it's sort of sad that he's sacrificing himself to buy time against Madara and sort of cool that he's actually damaging him, but it's still feels unnecessary to me. It also makes no sense how even with the 8th gate unlocked he's hurting Madara, since the 5 kages together were untterly curbstomped by the guy. Well, I can't say I hated this chapter, like I usually do, but there's still a lot of bothersome things. I guess Naruto's awake now, which hopefully means they can end this damn thing soon...maybe.

Rankings:

1. All You Need Is Kill - 10/10
2. Magi - 10/10
3. Assassination Classroom - 10/10
4. Naruto - 5/10
5. Bleach - 4/10

The good was really good and the bad was just kinda "eh." The good stuff outweighs the bad, though, and it's rare that I am willing to think so highly as to give three series 10/10's for their latest chapters, so that says something about how solid AYNIK, Magi, and AC were for me this week. Hopefully I have more good stuff to read this week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 29, 2014, 05:24:56 PM
Not a bad week. 

Assassination Classroom chapter 83 - It's hard to describe why the chapter was so funny, but it's mainly because it has to do with Korosensei's character. We've seen him act perverted in many moments in the past, so for him to be accused as a lingerie thief is hilarious because on one hand it's something that you wouldn't expect him to do because of his pride as a teacher, but on the other hand, he is eccentrically pervy enough to justify the accusation. And the reactions of both him and the students are just priceless. But I'd say the interesting thing was that this impostor Korosensei as actually a set-up by Shiro and Itona. I was wondering when they'd show up again, since they were shown on the move a few chapters ago. It'll be interesting to see where this situation leads next week.

Black Butler chapter 91 -  This is probably the first time I've mentioned a BB chapter, huh. I tend to forget about it since it doesn't update regularly (and only monthly, anyway). On the subject, seeing Sebastian actually do butler-y things in this one is sort of amusing, I guess. For once I am actually interested in Ciel, since he's lost his memory and suffering from past traumas and whatnot. Hey, maybe he'll become a likable character for once! I don't read BB expecting it to be good (I read it because it can be so flamboyant and twisted that it turns around and becomes amusing), but this was a pretty competent chapter on a story-level,  and I do find myself interested in Ciel's situation, so this was an okay one.

Bleach chapter 574 - I chuckled at Kenpachi calling the Sternritter Captain Obvious, but this is still a stupid chapter. I mean, first off, this guy has the power of imagination, so he should just imagine Kenpachi dead already. Hell, he should imagine all the Soul Reapers dead and Juha Bach the victor. Why doesn't he? It makes no sense. He's just another bland and pretentious villain that thinks he's smarter than he is. Why does Kubo seem to have such an affinity for those? They got old years ago. Anyway, Yachiru's bones are no longer cookies because apparently this guy can't think about multiple things at once and Kenpachi is commanding his attention. Cool? Gah, boring and stupid chapter as usual. I like Kenpachi's retorts, since he at least has a personality unlike everyone else in the manga nowadays, but that only goes so far when there is so much of this stupidity going on.

Magi chapter 219 - We were promised a high-octane magic battle, and we got a curbstomp. Pretty cool, regardless. Interesting that Solomon is the son of the leader of the Council of Elders. There's really not much to say about the chapter other than it was a cool fight, and that next week should further some answers or details on the current situation.

Naruto chapter 670 - I have mixed feelings on this one, which I suppose is a step up from hating it. I was bored out of my mind at the useless generation gap dialogue jokes at the beginning, but I did like learning the origin of the Sage of Six Paths,  the use of chakra, and why/how the ten tails was sealed. That said, I have to groan at Naruto being the reincarnation of the Sage's younger son. I mean, come one, isn't Naruto already special enough, Kishimoto? Ugh. I expect copious character shilling next week. I get it, Naruto is special and amazing and a savior and whatever, shut up already. Otherwise, I guess it was a decentish chapter, as it at least made sense to do unlike having Guy be randomly important again these last few weeks.

One Piece chapter 742 - Man, I was disappointed with the last few chapters, but this one was great. In a succinct manner Oda shows Kyros progress from a criminal gladiator in the Colosseum, to a respected general, the development of the relationship between him and Scarlet, sweet moments of his family life, how he got turned into the Toy Soldier, and that scene where he sees Scarlet being shot, but she no longer remembers him because he's now a toy, and dies in his arms...fucking tragic. It's amazing how much backstory Oda was able to get into this chapter, and have it still be incredibly effective. And what's more, there's so much else happening here. Rebecca has lost her will to fight after learning Diamante was the one who killed her mother, Franky has been defeated and likely will be taken captive, and everyone's last hope, Ussop, has been rendered unconscious after a vicious beating by Sugar and Trebol. But, then, Sugar force feeds Ussop the Tabasico grape, and his reaction...and her reaction to his reaction...oh my god, I laughed so hard. That was a clever way for them to beat Sugar, Oda.  Instead of a typical battle where she looses thanks to last minute effort or what not like in a normal series, she just gets freaked out and passes out because Ussop's freaky reaction to the Tabasico. That is amazing. I loved this chapter, something I haven't been able to say about a chapter of OP in a good while. Hopefully next weeks will keep the pace.

One-Punch Man chapter 45 - Ah, man. I was worried about Silver Fang after he got knocked around like that last chapter, but he kicked some ass and was a total badass here. With that regenerating alien dead, all that's left is Saitama's fight with Boros to conclude. It was excitingly drawn, as always, but of course, the best part is seeing Saitama, after all the damage Boros is doing and his confident taunting, passively just asks him "are you done yet?" Yeah, this arc should end next chapter, but the payoff should be satisfying as always.

Toriko chapter 271 - Chichi is a riot. An old, crotchety guy that is strangely perverted and has a penchant for lying for the sake of lying...and he's a fucking Nitro...that's just brilliant. I wish we actually learned more about how he and Ichiryu met, but I guess that story needs to be saved for now. Acacia's full course must really be something if the mere scent of one of it's ingredients on an apple is enough to make the group go wild. It'll be interesting to see what sorts of things the "night" of the Gourmet World has to offer.

Rankings:

1. One Piece - 10/10
2. Assassination Classroom - 9/10
3. Toriko - 9/10
4. One-Punch Man - 8.5/10
5. Magi - 8/10
6. Black Butler - 6/10
7. Naruto - 5.5/10
8. Bleach - 2/10

Last week might've been better if only because 3 of the series had 10/10 worthy chapters, but this one had a lot of good in it too. Some interesting developments should be going down next week in all of the good major series I'm reading, and I'm looking forward to reading them.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 05, 2014, 02:40:56 PM
No Assassination Classroom this week, and Conan is still not updated. But, even without them, this was a good week of manga.

All You Need Is Kill chapters 10-11 - These chapters show how Rita learned to make use of the loop, showing how Rita fights in battle, how she got the axe blade, and why she engages in seemingly random conversations with dying soldiers on the battlefield. The main point of chapter 11 was Rita learning Kiriya also loops, but that last scene was very well-done scene. After so long, she finally is no longer alone in experiencing the loop, and has found a comrade who understands what she's been through. It was a simple and effectively emotional moment. Looking forward to how the plot develops now that both of them will start to collaborate with each other.

Bleach chapter 575 - SIGH. If the guy has the power of imagination, he should just wish Kenpachi dead already. Instead he does really unimaginative things with his power, when he should just be able to win in a second. This is just a really dumb situation, and a boring as fuck chapter.

Magi chapter 220 - Solomon rallies the Manticore, Gorgon, and Hermit tribes to his cause by telling them that, even though some species have advantages in some ways over others, they all have one common thing that bonds them together and makes them deserving of equality and life - the ability to love and care for other creatures besides oneself. Solomon continues to be an very interesting and likable character, and while this chapter is devoted to this inspirational speech, it is very moving and thoughtful. I'm also liking Sheba, and wondering how her role in the story will develop from her. Yet another fine chapter in this flashback, and I'm eager to see how it develops from here.

Naruto chapter 671 - You know...I don't really hate anything about this chapter, for once. Yeah, it's stupid as fuck that Naruto and Sasuke and the reincarnations of the Sage's sons and whatever, but the chapter explained some aspects of the plot previously unexplored and I thought the ending was very nicely done. I still think the whole situation is dumb, but it was a "good" chapter by my standards, a rarity for this series. 

One Piece chapter 743 - It was very satisfying to see the toys turn back into humans, and I laughed so hard at a lot of the reversions, like the pirates one and the gorilla one. I must say that seeing Kyros return to form, and Violet, Rebecca, and Riku remembering him struck some good emotional chords, and him cutting Doflamnigo's head right off was a real moment of badass. Though, I doubt Doflamingo is going down that easy, so we'll see how he manages to survive that next week I guess. Overall, there was lots of great stuff in this chapter, and I'm pleased to see the series start to return to form a bit.


Stealth Symphony chapters 1-7 - This is a new WSJ series written by the creator of Baccano! and Durarara, Ryohgo Narita. I wasn't planning on checking out the series until I was sure it would be worth my time, but I ultimately ended up reading through these chapters, and it's enjoyable enough at this stage for me to keep reading it. The first few chapters are rather slow and sorta standard of battle shonen, but the recent ones have made the main character, Sieg, more likable than he was initially, and the invisible dragon Toroma is a good one too. This first arc is kinda interesting in that Sieg has found employment with a group who is out to stop a human trafficking operation...which is being guarded by Toroma and others of the Virtue & Vice company, who not only saved Sieg's life but also who he heavily admires. So it's an interesting situation, where the main character has to fight against his friends, and both are just doing their jobs without concern for what's "good" or "evil." It's a unique story arc to have early on and has definitely piqued my interest in the series a bit. Reading a manga when it's just starting up is a relatively new experience for me, with AYNIK being my only precedent, and that series is based on a ten year old novel while this is a new story, so I think it'll be fun for me to keep up with it and see where it goes.

Toriko chapter 272 - The monster that was sprouting from the ground in the last chapter turned out to be a Melon Octupus, which the gang will use as tent and transportation in the early parts of the Gourmet World. This was a nice send-off chapter for the group, with all of their compatriots returning, and the pets coming along with them. It's a simple chapter, but it succeeds in feeling triumphant and exciting. After a bit over two months of waiting, it's finally time to see the group go off into the Gourmet World, and I'm excited to see what the series has in store.

Rankings:

1. One Piece - 10/10
2. Toriko - 10/10
3. All You Need Is Kill - 10/10
4. Magi - 9.5/10
5. Stealth Symphony - 7.5/10
6. Naruto - 7/10
7. Bleach - 1/10

So, I was very pleased with my favorites this week, Naruto was better than usual, and Bleach....well, it sucked hard, but the pros definitely outweighed the cons this week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Grave on April 05, 2014, 04:01:34 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on April 05, 2014, 02:40:56 PM
Bleach chapter 575 - SIGH. If the guy has the power of imagination, he should just wish Kenpachi dead already. Instead he does really unimaginative things with his power, when he should just be able to win in a second. This is just a really dumb situation, and a boring as fuck chapter.

You're setting yourself up for failure every time you think there's gonna be some form of logic in Bleach (You're better off giving up on the series now instead of torturing yourself). If only people can remember that logic/plot and Bleach don't go together, people would probably think differently of the series, but then again I've become rather simple minded when it comes to manga (otherwise I wouldn't be reading Bleach or Naruto for that matter). I've come to accept Bleach as an action series alone with decent characters. That being said, the last 3 chapters were still awful to me.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 05, 2014, 04:42:07 PM
I'm sorry, but even in "action" stories that emphasize fighting over the story there does need to be a form of logic in what characters do and how the plot develops. Toriko has bizarre shit happen all the time, but it makes sense why the characters act the way they do and why things happen plot-wise. Saying that Bleach and logic/plot don't go together and that's okay is a lame way to justify it's entertainment value, since Kubo is writing a series he wants people to take seriously, not an absurd parody or bout of random action and craziness. The problem with this fight is that Kubo has set up the villain to have the power of imagination. He should be able to do anything he wants, and with a power like that he could easily kill Kenpachi, or heck, why doesn't he try turning his bones into cookies or something like he did with Yachiru? You're telling me to just ignore that this character, who Kubo has established as capable of imagining his opponents to death, is not doing that to Kenpachi for no explained reason because apparently I'm not supposed to care about the plot in Bleach? No. This is bad writing. Nothing changes that.

As for why I still read Bleach and Naruto, it is because I have been invested in them for a long time and with the promise of their conclusions nearing I figure I might as well finish what I've started. Bleach chapters take two minutes to read because Kubo wastes space so much so it doesn't waste that much of my time. And luckily, as you can see from all my thoughts on the series I'm keeping up with these last few weeks, I am reading several well-written and entertaining series like Magi and Toriko that I genuinely enjoy. I don't need to become "simple minded" to enjoy manga, and I fairly and easily find outrage in the poor plotting of Naruto and Bleach when I compare them to the good manga I read. There is more manga out there beyond the so-called the most popular WSJ stuff, and if you are tired of shonen I'd suggest you try out series like All You Need Is Kill and One-Punch Man, both of which are simple but excellent seinin manga with epic battle scenes and well-done stories and characters. There's plenty of good manga out there, and it isn't really that hard to find. You just need to be wiling to try them.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Grave on April 05, 2014, 05:14:16 PM
Maybe I'm wording it the wrong way. I'm not trying to say its okay to excuse it. Hell, this is exactly why I ignore Kubo's writing. I've been ignoring Kubo's writing since Toshiro battled Halibel. The logic during that war was quite something right? Yet, here we are still reading and it's been how many years? Bitching about it now? What's that gonna get you? Granted I'll give you that it does feel good to complain after all these years though, right?

QuoteI don't need to become "simple minded" to enjoy manga, and I fairly and easily find outrage in the poor plotting of Naruto and Bleach when I compare them to the good manga I read. There is more manga out there beyond the so-called the most popular WSJ stuff, and if you are tired of shonen I'd suggest you try out series like All You Need Is Kill and One-Punch Man, both of which are simple but excellent seinin manga with epic battle scenes and well-done stories and characters. There's plenty of good manga out there, and it isn't really that hard to find. You just need to be wiling to try them.

I'm not telling you to become simple minded. That's just how I am. The only reason I'm reading mangas now, good action, artwork and characters. Simple minded stuff. But telling you this stuff means nothing, so whatever. Forget about it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 05, 2014, 05:33:36 PM
 I've always complained when anything in any series is poorly written and does not make sense. That is nothing new, and it is not something I only do with Bleach, and I'll have you know I've been complaining about Bleach's story for a couple of years now, but I didn't bother putting my thoughts on every individual chapter until recently when I decided I needed a way to help me keep track of what I'm keeping up with.  Perhaps I should've dropped Bleach for good long ago, and to be honest, I did drop it for a long while after the Fullbringer arc, but after hearing that this was to be the final arc of the series, I figured I might as well finish the series. It doesn't make me feel good to complain about Bleach. I'm honestly pretty emotionally uninvested in it at this point, so I'm just giving my honest opinions on what I thought of a chapter. It doesn't "get" me anything, I'm just posting what I think of a chapter and how the story is progressing. And I read manga for story/characters, so I'm not just going to ignore the series' deficiencies in both of those.

Quote from: Grave on April 05, 2014, 05:14:16 PM

I'm not telling you to become simple minded. That's just how I am. The only reason I'm reading mangas now, good action, artwork and characters. Simple minded stuff. But telling you this stuff means nothing, so whatever. Forget about it.

Alright. You read manga for your reasons, I read them for mine, and we can leave it at that.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 12, 2014, 01:05:03 PM
Double the amount of manga to read this week compared to the norm...and the majority of it was really good!

All You Need Is Kill chapter 12 - So, because Kiriya killed the main server of the Mimics in the first chapter, he was forced into the loop by the back-ups, and that's why he keeps experiencing it over and over again. So, after Rita takes out all the backups in this chapter, Kiriya should've been able to kill the main server Mimic once and for all, and end his loop. But, for some reason, this didn't work. I can only guess the same that others have also speculated: either Kiriya or Rita has also become a "server" of the Mimics, responsible for resetting the loop, and whoever it is, that person needs to die before the loop can be broken permanently. I don't think the series will run much longer, since the story seems near it's end. The Edge of Tomorrow will be released on June 6th, and I'm assuming the manga will be over just before then, so I'd say at most there'll be 8 more chapters. Still, I'm going to enjoy speculating and seeing the story unfold as the next few weeks unfurl all the same.

Assassination Classroom chapter 84 - Shiro and Itona wanted to put Korosensei into a state of mental unease from having the students lose trust in him, and then limit his movement by enclosing him in a tight space. Of course, since the students already used a strategy like that on him before, he's adapted a counter strategy to it, as well as a new technique (which basically seems like some sort of energy ball) to get rid of opponents in tight spaces. That's cool. It's only natural Korosensei would improve his own skills after seeing how close he was to being killed back in the summer vacation arc, after all. The big thing about this chapter was Shiro abandoning Itona for his failure. I think Shiro has some sort of grudge against Korosensei, maybe a history with him, which is why he desires his death so badly. He also mentioned something about a "new model," which means there might be a new government-made monster being created to kill Korosensei. I have to wonder how Itona will exactly fit in with the rest of class E, since he doesn't really have much of a personality aside from being angry. Well, that'll probably be addressed next chapter, and then I guess we'll just see how it goes from there. 

Attack on Titan chapter 56 - Wow, I really liked this chapter, which is something I haven't been able to say for a long time. From Hange's conversation with Sanes and her frustration at the role she has to play, to Levi telling Historia to shut up and do what she has to do, and why he's willing to be flexible to do whatever it takes if it means saving the entire human race (a good explanation for his behavior last few chapters), and to the ending of the chapter, where the Survery Corps has already seen through Levi and Reebs' scheme, slaughters Reebs and his men (with only Reebs' son left alive, managing to stay out of sight, somehow), and has taken Historia and Eren captive. It seems the plan has fallen apart, but I knowing Levi, he probably has some sort of backup to help fix the situation. I can say though, that in terms of plot and character interactions, nothing at all annoyed me here, making for the best chapter of this series I've read since the end of the Female Titan arc. I could hope this won't be a fluke and the series can be enjoyable in future chapters, but I guess I'll need to wait until next month to find out.

Bleach chapter 576 - I can't say this made me as bored or irritated as the last few chapters, but this whole battle...just, Gremmy should just imagine Kenpachi dead or mutilated already, c'mon. Well, Kenny'll be taking on an entire fucking meteorite next week, and that might be fun, I guess.

Detective Conan chapter 889-890 - Hey, guess what's back! Overall, I really enjoyed the Tea Cup mystery, though I do think, in retrospect, that the culprit was pretty obvious. The brilliant thing about this mystery was actually how obvious it was, but could be so easily missed if you don't stop and think about it or apply a basic understanding of acids and bases. I love it when Aoyama tells these more realistic sort of cases than the "strings" plots which tend to get overused from time to time. The next case looks to be featuring more of Bourbon (or should I say Zero?) and explore his past a little more, which should be really interesting. Hopefully the translators don't delay it for over a month this time.

Magi chapter 221 - This chapter was mostly about Sheba obsessing over Solomon, which was kinda funny but also a bit irritating after a while. I do appreciate Solomon's desire to be treated like a normal person by people close to him, so that he won't grow arrogant or an ego that would lead him to getting a superiority complex. The quality of the magoi being corrupted is most likely a sign that black rukh is starting to develop, so perhaps we'll see corruption among those in Solomon's rank soon (we know Ithnan will eventually betray him, after all). I'm curious about the Origin Dragon and what it possibly might say, but otherwise, I feel that the flashback arc is moving too slowly. Hopefully it shows signs of wrapping up soon.

Naruto chapter 672 - Another chapter that I've liked, but it's hard not to get a smile seeing Guy unleash a final, all of strike against Madara, after seeing a flashback of his childhood, showing him flunking the entrance exam to Konoha academy and Kakashi mocking him. He came a long way, and even Madara could say he's the strongest practitioner of taijutsu he's ever seen. I think I might have been too hard on Guy's fight with Madara and his backstory in the last few weeks, since it ended up finishing rather nicely here. It ended up appealing a lot to me, and after weeks of tedium and stupidity, the end of the chapter actually made me a bit excited to see what is (hopefully) the last fight between Naruto and Sasuke against Madara. That feeling probably won't last, but hey, good chapter here anyways.

One Piece chapter 744 - Oh man, this chapter was just so awesome. Sabo gettng Ace's fruit, getting his powers, and his reveal was just expected but so epic in execution. While the schtick with Ussop being considered a savior to a large group of people was done before with Buggy, it was still freakin' hilarious since we actually know the characters of a lot of these guys like Cavendish whereas the Impel Down prisoners were nameless goons, and that extra bit of characterization helps make it be a little less of a retread and just as funny. And like everyone expected, Doflamingo ain't dead and is now using a technique called "Bird Cage," which freaks out Law. This arc has finally gotten to a point where the mad chaos has balanced out into something consistently enjoyable, I can say that I am absolutely excited for the next chapter, something I have not been for a good while.

Peephole chapter 19 - I figure I better start talking about this too or I'll keep forgetting to read it for weeks at a time. Anyway, this series is basically about a total loser of a guy called Kurosou getting into a faux relationship with his next door neighbor, Miyachi, who is basically a female version of Dexter, after accidentally watching her kill a guy through the peephole he has in his room, and the frightening life-threatening shit he gets into as a result of his association with her. It's over the top and disturbing in an amusing way and makes for a legitimately entertaining guilty-pleasure sort of series. In this chapter Kurosou is sent to a Match party by Miyachi in order to lure out a serial killer she wants to kill, and lo, it works. The unfortunate thing about this series is that the chapters are so short, and this week I can't say there's much I can talk about, but next week should be fun, especially since both the police and Miyachi are out after this serial killer, so it'll be a sort of competition between them, and lord knows the danger Kurosou is gonna be put in as a result.

Stealth Symphony chapter 8 - I like Jig's initiative and desire to do what he thinks is right even if it means fighting against his own friends. That said, the action in this chapter was kind of a blur to me, and mostly it seems like a set up for Jig deciding to use his wings to help people instead of just lamenting it as a nuisance. The next chapter should prove more eventful now that he's taking action.

Toriko chapter 273 - Toriko's group braved a sea of thorns and giant manta rays and are now on Yutou Island, the location of the "salad" of Acacia's full course. The Riddle Chapter is basically a pokedex sort of device for the several million discovered animals/plants known in the Human and Gourmet World, but like Zebra says, it will probably become useless the further they go into the Gourmet World and into it's unexplored regions, so I'm not sure what the point of it is, but maybe that'll be something expanded upon in time.  I am much more interested in knowing just who the hell is that frog that was so carelessly drinking tea while reading the torn waves and is controlling the skeletons of the dead sailors at the Harbor of Evil Spirits, but that's something that'll surely be revealed as the arc progresses. This was basically a transition chapter, just trying to get the group to the Island and set up the arc proper, but it did it well, and I can't wait to see how the first proper arc of part 2 of Toriko'll go down.

Rankings:

1. One Piece - 10/10
2. Attack on Titan - 10/10
3. Naruto - 9/10
4. Magi - 9/10
5. Toriko - 8.5/10
6. Detective Conan - 8/10
7. Assassination Classroom - 8/10
8. All You Need Is Kill - 8/10
9. Stealth Symphony - 8/10
10. Peephole - 7.5/10
11. Bleach - 5/10

11 manga, and most everything was good this weak, with the Bleach chapter being the only one I didn't like, but even that was just meh rather than awful. I feel weird ranking AOT and Naruto so high since I do not at all like those series normally, but they had good chapters this week, and I can't deny I enjoyed them and found them stronger than the others I ranked them above.  A fluke, perhaps, but all the same.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 18, 2014, 07:18:26 PM
I'm gonna be hella busy next few days, so I'll just share my thoughts on this week's manga today. I guess I'll have to talk about the new Stealth Symphony some other time during the week, since those come out tomorrow.

Assassination Classroom chapter 85 - Shiro is such a bastard. This is something that's been established before, in how he used Class E as pawns in his gambles to capture Korosensei without any regard for their lives, but abandoning Itona, leaving him to die, and then using him as bait to lure Korosensei into a trap? Geez, I should've nominated him for the villains tournament. Aside from seeing Shiro be a total asshole, this chapter also reveals that Itona is actually a human, with tentacle implants. He needs treatment every three days to keep control of them, and if he doesn't, he'll go mad and eventually die. This actually explains why he acted so psychotic in previous installments. Well, partially. We still need to know more about him; how he met Shiro, what his connection to Korosensei is, and why he wants to kill him so badly. Korosensei's determination to help Itona despite the bad blood between them in the past is characteristic but, as always, admirable and there is a sweet moment between them here that did make me smile (until Shiro ambushed both of them). I think at the end of this arc Itona will join Class E permanently, so hopefully we learn more about him in the ext few chapters. Which will be fun to read, since the whole of Class E is pissed off at Shiro for using them as pawns again, so there will no doubt be some delicious payback coming up soon enough.

Bleach chapter 577 - This chapter was just time-wasting and boring, because it's essentially devoted to reaction shots of various characters as the meteor is falling down, and Gremmy's lame gloating about how he'll be the only one left standing and whatever. It is nice that we finally learn the name of Kenpachi's shikai, even though the design is unwieldy and honestly kind lame considering the build up. Meh. This whole Gremmy nonsense is just boring, especially because, with his power, he should be doing way more inventive and exciting things than just make one duplicate of himself and create a big rock in the sky. It should end next week, at least.

Detective Conan chapter 891 - Takagi, you idiot! Why the hell would you tell a random stranger, you just met, about the identities of two FBI agents? Even if he's a detective, that information should be kept secret. Sigh, well, sometimes Aoyama has characters like Aoyama make blunders like this, but in his defense, Takagi is the sort of person who would blunder like this, so I can forgive it. Especially since know that Bourbon knows about Jodie and Camel, he's sure to be even more suspicious of Conan, and finally put the pieces together. Plus, "Oh? FBI, you say?" I love Bourbon. I really, really do. The case itself is pretty interesting this time too, especially since the victim has a history with Jodie, which might be related to the case in some way. I haven't been this excited for a new case since "The Raven Train Murder," and I can't wait to see where this one will go.

Magi chapter 222 - I admit...this flashback arc has had it's dull moments. A lot of that is because, besides Ugo and Ithnan, these characters are completely new, so it's hard to care about them. However, I've found myself really growing fond of Sheba and Solomon as it's gone on, and that's really what's making these chapters work for me. Here, for instance, a lot of fun humor comes from Sheba's insistence to accompanying Solomon and reactions to things, and she and Solomon share a sweet character moment where she reassures him that, despite his past, his followers firmly believe in him. I enjoyed learning how Solomon slowly changed his mind about the other species thanks to getting to know the Mother Dragon, since it adds some depth to his character and why he's fighting for the equality of all. The best part of this chapter, though, was the expansion of the mythology, and the characters trying to figure out what is happening to the world, throwing out several theories, and coming to the conclusion that, because someone is becoming more powerful than the "god' of their world, the magoi is being increasingly depleted, and once there is no energy left, the world will die out. Their are a lot of stakes on the line here, and the enemy is none other than Solomon's own father. While I do wish we could get to the meat of why we need to know all this, I'm enjoying the mythology building, and Solomon and Sheba have become interesting enough characters for me to want to see where this flashback arc is going. Quite frankly, this chapter had everything I love about Magi at it's finest and shows a lot of why it stands out as the most ambitious and articulate of the currently-running shonen series I'm aware of and keeping up with. An excellent chapter, and I'm looking forward to the next.

Naruto chapter 673 - There isn't anything bad here. It's all quite good action and it gets right to the point on everything it needs to, setting up Naruto and Sauske confronting Madara together for what Kishimoto promises to be the final battle. It's a good chapter that doesn't really have any of the annoying faults that plague the series week to week, and while I can't say I'm excited to see the ultimate showdown since I'm not invested in the characters/story at this point (I'm more relieved that it seems to be finally ending), but the chapter does it's job and works for me. Now let's just see if this final fight was worth the tedium of the past three years.

One-Punch Man chapter 46 - Too short. TOO. SHORT. This is one problem of keeping up with OPM on a bi-weekly basis; sometimes Murata makes the chapters just too damn short. Like, I was so fucking excited with all the epic action going on in Lord Boros' and Saitama's fight and all the beautiful destruction and chaos...and bam! Over. Just 9 pages, and done. Not even really a proper conclusion-y kinda thing to the chapter. It just stops. And this irritates me. Because I wanted more. Well, at least I'm hella pumped up to read the next chapter asap.  :D

Peephole chapter 20 - Miyachi is actually pretty clever, figuring out who the insurance money killer was by carefully studying trends in a couple seemingly unrelated blog posts. And it actually makes sense why Kurosou was chosen to bait her out, since he fits the kind of guy the killer likes to go after. This was a really well-done chapter. Honestly, this series might be better than I'm willing to give it credit for. Maybe that's too early to say, but this is pretty interesting stuff here, and I'm curious to see what the next step in Miyachi's plan is.

Toriko chapter 274 - Oh man, poor Quin. Whole chunks of his neck were bitten off by those piranhas. I don't think that's going to heal easily. Lot's of great action this chapter, and it looks like we'll be learning more about the mysterious frog guy from the last chapter already. I'm curious as to what the "Real Mist" is as well.

Rankings:

1. Toriko - 10/10
2. Magi - 9/10
3. Detective Conan - 9/10
4. Assassination Classroom - 8.5/10
5. One-Punch Man - 8.5/10
6. Peephole - 8/10
7. Naruto - 7/10
8. Bleach - 1/10

I'll edit in Stealth Symphony later, or just add it next week. Overall, though, a solid week of manga just like the last. I'm very pleased.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on April 18, 2014, 07:28:39 PM
Did Grave self-delete?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 19, 2014, 11:18:34 AM
 Vix has licensed World Trigger for a print release (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-04-18/viz-media-announces-print-edition-for-world-trigger-manga). I've heard good things about it, and they've been running it in Alpha since it's beginning, so it's no surprise that they are finally doing this. I really do need to get on reading the series, sometime. Now, if only they made print volumes of One-Punch Man...
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on April 19, 2014, 11:41:06 AM
Quote from: Cartoon X on April 19, 2014, 11:18:34 AM
Now, if only they made print volumes of One-Punch Man...
I remember Viz mentioning a while back that they are working on getting the series a print-release, so hopefully it happens soon. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 19, 2014, 12:09:21 PM
It'd be great if it does. OPM is just too brilliant to be relegated to only the digital format.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 20, 2014, 06:59:40 PM
You know, I've been trying my damnedest to appreciate One Piece lately, but I'm sorry to say that it's still just mediocre at best for me. Oda's formula has gotten stale. There's only so many 'times that I can see some plot about the Straw Hats overcoming some corrupt or downright evil organization or regime, liberating a whole kingdom, and then moving into the next island to do the same again. I mean, this could still work if executed well, but the problem is that Oda hasn't really been doing it that well lately. Previously arcs knew just how to pace themselves and gave you just enough story and action in the right balance to keep you engaged. Oda is trying to cram too much story into each chapter in many cases, and even now that he's evened out the pace in this arc, I don't find myself caring as much because I never really got a chance to bond with the supporting characters. Going back to the pacing, while I don't like a ridiculously slow story, OP has the opposite problem right now. It just doesn't give you any breathing room anymore. Every single action scene has to be some 2-page spread or happen on some really large scale to look impressive, but to me it just looks unceative, and I miss the visceral feel of earlier fights in the manga. Whatever happened to just a gold old fashioned punch a guy in the face panels that were drawn effectively by not going into explicit detail of how it's wrecking the surrounding environment a la DBZ.

There are still enough interesting elements to this series to keep me reading, but my patience is really wearing thin. Oda need to change things up now. I'm no longer satisfied with the usual 1-dimensional villains. And for crying out loud, at least come up with some new character gags. I'm tired of seeing the "Usopp is a coward" shtick for one thing. Shouldn't we have already moved past that? I suppose Oda forgets the little bit of character development that he gave Usopp in a much earlier arc. I'm also just tired of seeing no real change in any of the main characters since their introduction arcs.

This series really needs an adrenaline shot in the arm, right now. It's supposed to be fun, but I'm just not having any fun right now, and I haven't had any real fun since before the major time-skip.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 20, 2014, 07:59:19 PM
This might be surprising to hear, from me, but I honestly don't think I'm that into One Piece anymore

Well, at least not as much as I used to be. Part of that is because I've been reading a lot more manga than I used to, and re-evaluting the stuff I enjoy and why I enjoy them as a result, but I think the biggest reason is because of how Oda has handled things after the timeskip. I've said this before, but I do not feel the crew has been organically returned to the story. Yes, they are there and present, but their interactions now feel forced and it seems like Oda is struggling to give them something to do so far. In the pre-timeskip arcs, every member of the crew had something to do in the arc and the focus was evenly divided among them. Now, the majority of the focus is on Luffy, and the rest of the crew feels like an afterthought. I find Oda's overuse of the crew's character quirks and gags to be evidence of how he's forgotten how to write these characters. Much like the cast of The Simpsons, everyone has been flanderized, emphasizing the superficial aspects of their characters without touching the bit of depth to them that made them lovable and enjoyable protagonists in the first place. The degeneration of Ussop's character arc a few chapters ago to play on the old, overused gag of his cowardice pretty much confirmed this to me. So not only has no single member of the crew besides Luffy done much of interest or had much focus thus far post-timeskip, they have also become more shallow and one-dimensional than they used to be. This is likely why I find myself more concerned and interested in what's happening to the other characters like Kine'mon, Law, and Kyros than, say, Franky or Robin, who I frankly sometimes forget are still in the story.

While I love the effort Oda puts into his artwork every chapter, I'll agree that, quite frankly, it's become too much. It's one of the reasons why I don't enjoy american superhero comics: too much going on in a panel is distracting and off-putting, serving to take me out of the experience when I should be immersed in what's going on. Sometimes it's so cluttered I can't make out all the action, and this weakens the impact of the fight scenes to me. Simpler is better, and would leave more of an impact. I honestly feel Oda is trying too hard with his artwork. I would much prefer he cut back on cramming as much as he can into every panel, and focus on getting a grasp of his characters better.

Story-wise, this arc has been hit and miss. There's lots of interesting stuff going on, but Oda hasn't balanced everything properly, so a lot of it, the tournament especially, seems like Oda meant it to go somewhere, but then changed his mind or got bored with it, so he hastily came up with a way to move on from it quickly. There have been lots of good moments, but also a lot of meh ones. I seriously didn't care for anything involving the Tontatta and I have to wonder why they even needed to be in this arc in the first place.

I have really enjoyed the last three chapters because there were a lot of cool things happening and going on and stuff, but for the most part this arc has been incredibly inconsistent and that's kinda a shame. I'm certainly not bored with it, but I've fallen a bit out of love with the series as well. As far as currently-running shonen manga go, Toriko, Magi, Assassination Classroom, and Silver Spoon are more enjoyable to me on a regular basis (though I need to catch up on SS, which I will, because SS is by far the best shonen manga currently running). And with the exception of SS, I really wouldn't say I like those series more than OP as a whole nor do I love them as much as I did OP in it's prime. But Dressrosa has kinda shown me that despite Oda's efforts in trying to make the series better and more exciting, he's actually lost what made the series so great. The characters are now just pale imitations and exaggerations of who they once were. The story has become too convoluted, taking the simple formula of the past ad cramming a lot of stuff into it but not really adding anything new, and because there is so much going on it's hard to become invested in a single plot element and care about it. There are still chapters that I really, really enjoy, and I do still look forward to new ones every week, but I do think the series is in a rut, and don't find myself particularly as invested and as much a fan of it as I once was. And unless Oda manages to write the crew in the organic, natural way he used to, and focus his story, I'm not sure I will.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 22, 2014, 02:09:54 AM
I posted this in the Hunter X Hunter thread, but I might as well do it here as well.

(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn03.animenewsnetwork.com%2Fimages%2Fcms%2Fnews%2F73689%2Fmain-11.jpg&hash=86e7ed0a68c50b4778f6fde4f461ba44208cd7d9)

http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-04-22/hunter-x-hunter-manga-to-resume-in-june (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-04-22/hunter-x-hunter-manga-to-resume-in-june)

Looks like I'll be keeping up with a 15th currently running manga sooner than I thought. After all this time, the series better be as good as it can. Don't disappoint me, Togashi.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on April 22, 2014, 02:20:56 AM
YES!! YESS!! THERE IS A GOD!! YES!! YES!!!!  :worship: :'( *joy tears*
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 22, 2014, 11:40:19 AM
I'll go with ten chapters this time before the delays. How about you, Ensatsu-ken?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 22, 2014, 12:07:44 PM
It'd actually be hilarious if he came back with just one or two chapters before going on hiatus again. Part of me wants that to happen for the lulz of it.  :D
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 22, 2014, 12:08:16 PM
Ten? Me thinks you are giving Togashi too much credit. Watch it be 5 new chapters and a 3-year hiatus to follow. Calling it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 26, 2014, 08:16:23 PM
An average week, I'd say.

All You Need Is Kill chapter 13 - This was such a sweet chapter. Kiriya and Rita letting go of all their worries for a day, and bonding over the simplest of things like having an eating contest, looking at the ocean, and telling each other stories. It really put a smile on my face seeing two characters, suffering so much and alone this whole time, find happiness in a companionship with someone in the same situation. A very moving chapter, and it really makes me want to see these characters finally break the loop, saving these experiences.

Assassination Classroom chapters 86-87 - Two chapters this week! Nice, since they conclude this current story with Itona. Terakasawa is honestly one of the series' best characters, because behind his rough, delinquent exterior, he's got a great heart and is world-wise when he wants to be. Seeing him try and help Itona, by just having him hang out his him and his crew and do simple, fun things, was great. Itona's backstory also shed light onto why he was so obsessed with victory. It also seems he doesn't really have a connection with Korosensei after all; it was just a set-up by Shrio to get Korosensei off guard. That makes sense. I'm glad Terakasawa helped him realize he does not need to put himself down so hard for failure, and that he should keep trying, and live happily day by day. Without his tentacles now, though, he's more of a normal student, but he should have some great chemistry with Terakasawa in particular so I'm looking forward to that in future chapters. Overall, some more great chapters from AC, and it's nice to see Itona join the main cast to boot.

Bleach chapter 578 - Gremmy is dead because Gremmy is stupid. Understatement of the century. Lame chapter, but hey, at least this fight is over with.

Dragon Ball Minus - So, the bonus chapter released in the Jaco volume has been translated, so I decided to read it. I don't care for how Toriyama has retconned the entire Bardock: The Father of Goku special with this chapter, but it isn't bad. I don't know why Bardock and Gine didn't try escaping Planet Vegeta themselves, and I really don't buy "oh, they'd get tracked with the scouter excuse" thing because space is vast and I doubt Freeza would actively hunt them down. The scene where they send off baby Goku is nice, though. But Goku wearing saiyan armor when he left Planet Vegeta is another retcon that I can't really say could be explained well, since he didn't have armor on when he landed on earth. Whatever. I'm more disappointed that we barely saw or learned anything about Gine in the chapter, though she seemed like a fun character from her interactions with Bardock. Of course, the best parts of the chapter weren't about Bardock and Gine. Nah, the Jaco stuff was way funnier, and  Jaco's enthusiasm at being able to allow humanity to be exterminated actually got me to laugh out loud. So it's kind of disappointing that the Jaco parts of the chapter were better than the Dragon Ball parts, but it was a fun little read all the same.

Black Butler chapter 92 - Yeah, so the Green Witch is in league with the were-wolves. BIG SHOCKER. Whatever. Finnian's backstory is kind of over-the-top ridiculous too, but that's par for the course when it comes to this series, so okay. Not sure where this is going at this point, but it wasn't a bad chapter, just kinda "there."

Magi chapter 222.5 - So, we get a short side-story kind of chapter. And it's really, really boring. Just a bunch of paragraphs that, I'm assuming detail Solomon's dads' feelings over the birth of his child. Bah.

Naruto chapter 674 - None of the action was really interesting to me, especially because there was so much talking and Madara going "oh my god these guys are so impressive" and that annoyed me. Kakashi losing an eye to Madara was kind of out of nowhere, but it was a quick and effective scene. And of course, Sakura is useless again and fails to do an easy, simple job right before Madara shows up. Guess Obito is going to die protecting her and redeem himself or whatever. Eh.

One Piece chapter 745 - Yeah, so Robin knew Sabo and Koala already. Called it! Bird Cage is an interesting technique. The set-up is familiar, but the crew being hunted down by the entire island is a concept that could lead to a lot of good action and tension if Oda pulls it off right. I also want to know what the deal with the duplicate is, and just what Kine'mon was carrying in his hands. A pretty good transition chapter.

Peephole chapter 21 - Lol, and Miyachi kills the policeman. This manga is so stupidly fun, and that's because Miyachi is such a clever, insane character who is fun to watch in action. I find myself looking forward to seeing her take down the insurance money killer in a wonderful battle of psychopathic wit.

Stealth Symphony chapter 9 - So the boss is a crazy killer mermaid. That is awesome. What is lame is how this character is so stereotypically evil and is picking a fight she should know she can't win. That's a lame way to get Toroma and company back on Jig's side. The series has been doing shitty in rankings, though, so an epic battle at this point is probably it's only way to try and shoot up, stave off cancelation, or otherwise provide a decent-ish (if no rushed and convenient) ending to it. It's a real shame that it hasn't been doing so hot, since it has a lot of potential. Well, I'll enjoy what I can of it while I can I suppose.

Toriko chapter 275 - This chapter was like "oh shit," then it was like "oh, shit!," and then it was like "oh, SHIT!" and then I was like "Fuck yeah!" Coco is so awesome. Poison Dolls, an ability that creates a living, moving duplicate out of the poison in his body. Such a unbelievable ability, but it's so useful and played out here so cool. I've said it before, but this series is like what you'd get if you took JoJo's and Dragon Ball and mixed 'em into one glorious creation, and this chapter was a perfect illustration of that. Full of great action and suspense, and setting up for Toriko to show his stuff in a battle next week. Yes. Easily the best chapter of the week.


Rankings:

1. Toriko - 10/10
2. All You Need Is Kill - 10/10
3. Assassination Classroom - 9/10
4. Dragon Ball Minus - 8/10
5. One Piece -8/10
6. Peephole - 8/10
7. Stealth Symphony - 7.5/10
8. Black Butler - 6/10
9. Naruto - 5/10
10. Magi - 2/10
11. Bleach - 1/10

So, not really a great week of manga, but the Toriko, AYNIK, and AC chapters were hella great so I'm happy enough. Hopefully a regular, interesting chapter of Magi comes next week and another pointless distraction like this week's doesn't happen again.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 27, 2014, 12:25:11 AM
Lol, I just realized all the Shonen Jump manga I was reading this week had clones of some sort in them. What a weird coincidence.  :lol:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on April 27, 2014, 11:28:20 AM
 :D
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 27, 2014, 01:37:01 PM
I recently checked the most recent Jump rankings, and wow, Bleach has been in the bottom two a lot recently. The only series that tend to rank lower than it are new series that don't have a chance of making it past three months anyway. Yep, it's curtain time. It's unlikely the series will get cancelled, per say, because of this recent performance, but no doubt this'll mean that the editors at Jump are going to try and accelerate the story as quick as possible to reach the ending faster. So yeah, I predict that before the end of the year, Bleach'll be done. It's only a matter of time now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 28, 2014, 03:04:50 PM
So, apparently I missed that there were two new translated Detective Conan chapters, so I decided to read them and HOLY FUCKING SHIT IT'S FINALLY HAPPENED BOURBON HAS FIGURED IT ALL OUT OKIYA IS AKAI CONFIRMED CONAN HAD EXPECTED GIN WOULD FORCE KIR TO SHOOT AKAI HE HELPED HIM FAKE HIS DEATH OH MY FUCKING GOD EVERYONE IS SO SCREWED!!!!

Yeah...so, shit is going DOWN! I haven't been THIS excited for the series since the Bell Tree Murder Express arc 70 chapters ago. Finally, finally the plot is moving forward and there's no going back. Akai isn't going to die, since clearly the Okiya Bourbon is confronting right now is not Akai but someone else in disguise (the face mask is a dead giveaway, since Haibara did the same thing before in the Desperate Revival arc), but man, I have no clue how anyone is going to be safe after this, since Bourbon has no doubt pieced together Conan is Shinichi and Kir's cover is blown. The manga has to be going into an endgame now, and even if it's not, I'm excited for what's basically going to be Clash of Red and Black 2.0. Yeah, these next few weeks, DC is going to be amazing. I cannot hold my anticipation of the things to come.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 01, 2014, 05:56:33 PM
Top 20 most popular manga in Japan based on the number of copies in circulation. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2014-05-01/top-20-most-popular-manga-ranked-by-publication-numbers)

For those who don't want to click the link, they are:

1. One Piece - 300 million
2. Golgo 13 - 200 million
3. Black Jack - 176 million
4. Dragon Ball - 157 million
5. Kochikame - 155.3 million
6. Detective Conan - 140 million
7. Naruto - 140 million
8. Oishinbo - 130 million
9. Slam Dunk - 119 million
10. Doraemon - 100 million
11. Astro Boy - 100 million
12. Touch - 100 million
13. Fist of the North Star - 100 million
14. Kindanchi Case Files - 90 million
15. Sazae-san - 86 million
16. Captain Tsubasa - 80 million
17. Hajime no Ippo - 75.5 million
18. Bleach - 74.6 million
19. Sangokushi - 70 million
20. Rurouni Kenshin - 70 million

There are more listed according to the original link, but since everything is in japanese there are a few I can't recognize and I can't tell the circulation numbers for. But I'll list the ones I do know anyway.

21. Hunter X Hunter
22. JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
25. H2
26. Bad Boys
27. Ranma 1/2
29. Rokudenshi Blues
30. Dragon Quest
31. Baki the Grappler
32. Great Teacher Onizuka
33. Yu Yu Hakusho
35. Initial D
36. The Prince of Tennis
37. Nana
38. Shin Chan
40. Vagabond
41. Be-Bop Highschool
42. City Hunter
45. Major
46. InuYasha
47. Yu-Gi-Oh!
49. Gintama
50. Attack on Titan
52. 20th Century Boys
53. Dr. Slump
55. Cobra
57. Urusei Yatsura
58. Bastard!
62. Death Note
65. Shaman King
69. Hitman Reborn
70. Saint Seiya
71. Boys Be
73. Hikaru no Go
74. Fairy Tail
77. Zatch Bell!
78. Kimagure Orange Road
79. Rookies
81. Eyeshield 21
82. Ashita no Joe
85. Gantz

Stray Thoughts:
1. Wow, One Piece pretty much trounces everything else in how many copies of it are in circulation. You can't really use the "it's been running so long and it has lots of volumes excuse" because both Golgo 13 and Oishinbo have run for over 30 years and have double it's volume count, and it still beats them by a landslide. Yeah...this kinda much confirms OP is the most popular manga ever in Japan, and for the most part I do think it earned that honor, though the post time-skip stuff makes me not feel like it totally deserves it.

2. It pleases me to no end that Oishinbo is so popular, and really impresses me that Black Jack is the third highest circulating manga. Seriously, that's awesome, and well-deserved.  ;D

4. The fact that Bleach has sold more copies and is on this list over better popular series like Ashita no JoeUrusei Yatsura, and JoJo's annoys me.  :srs:

5. Damn, despite all it's production problems, HXH is still really fucking popular! No wonder Togashi gets away with so many hiatuses.  :sweat:

6. As a fan, I am of course happy to see Ranma 1/2 in the top 30 (though I wish it was UY instead, of course).  ;)

7. Didn't expect AnJ to be so low.  :(

Overall, this list is surprising in some respects but not in a couple other. Some of these I believe truly deserve their popularity, others I think are a bit overrated, but it is what it is since this is based on data and whatnot. I wonder if something will ever come along to knock OP off #1 though...since nothing currently running or in the past comes even close....
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 01, 2014, 06:33:14 PM
They could probably get those RK sales even higher with a new anime. Just saying.

Bleach being so high is disappointing. The rest of the top 20 is fairly expected and deserved.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on May 01, 2014, 07:08:04 PM
I didn't know Golgo was so popular. I thought it was just some obscure series. I'm actually surprised to see Fist Of The Northstar that high, for some reason. Or Grappler Baki. Hell, I'm genuinely surprised about Baki, especially seeing what popular series it's above.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 01, 2014, 11:44:01 PM
I wasn't expecting AnJ to be a top 20 or anything, but I would've figured it'd at least be in the top 50 based on how iconic the series is, but I guess Japanese readers who like shounen manga are apparently more interested in Bleach and stuff.

Hunter X Hunter may eventually crack the top 20 in a few years as it continues to have volumes sold in the millions with each new release, as infrequent as they may be.

Also, you CAN make the argument about series length influencing ranking in some cases, if you go by an average of copies sold per volume. For instance, Rurouni Kenshin sold 70 million copies with only 28 volumes, while Hajime no Ippo only sold about 5 million more with over 100 volumes currently out, which means that RK sold well over 2 million copies per volume on average, while HnI sold well under a million copies per volume on average. Going by that logic, RK is clearly the more popular series, but if you are just going by total volumes sold regardless of how many there are per series, the ranks will come out much differently.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 02, 2014, 12:06:40 AM
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on May 01, 2014, 11:44:01 PM
I wasn't expecting AnJ to be a top 20 or anything, but I would've figured it'd at least be in the top 50 based on how iconic the series is, but I guess Japanese readers who like shounen manga are apparently more interested in Bleach and stuff.

That or AnJ hasn't been reprinted in a while, and hence hasn't had any new copies sold in a long time.

And considering this list is overwhelmingly dominated by them, I'd say most japanese manga readers enjoy shonen series.  :D

Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on May 01, 2014, 11:44:01 PM

Also, you CAN make the argument about series length influencing ranking in some cases, if you go by an average of copies sold per volume. For instance, Rurouni Kenshin sold 70 million copies with only 28 volumes, while Hajime no Ippo only sold about 5 million more with over 100 volumes currently out, which means that RK sold well over 2 million copies per volume on average, while HnI sold well under a million copies per volume on average. Going by that logic, RK is clearly the more popular series, but if you are just going by total volumes sold regardless of how many there are per series, the ranks will come out much differently.

That's true. In fact, by average copies per volume, the top 20 would look like:


Black Jack - 10.4 million
Astro Boy - 4.3 million
One Piece - 4.1 million
Touch - 3.8 million
Dragon Ball - 3.7 million
Slam Dunk - 3.7 million
Fist of the North Star - 3.7 million
Rurouni Kenshin - 2.5 million
Doraemon - 2.2 million
Captain Tsubasa - 2.2 million
Naruto - 2.1 million
Sazae-san - 1.9 million
Detective Conan - 1.7 million
Kindanchi Case Files - 1.4 million
Oishinbo - 1.2 million
Bleach - 1.2 million
Sangokushi - 1.2 million
Golgo 13 - 1.2 million
Kochikame - 0.86 million
Hajime no Ippo - 0.71 million

..which as you can see, is quite different. I don't know the numbers for anything past the top 20, but I can imagine quite a few series past there that would be more popular than some of these series in here.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Daxdiv on May 02, 2014, 02:58:46 PM
Oh cool, Looked at the list and saw that Kinnikuman was like 23rd best seller. But wow, One Piece really is the most popular series in Japan right now. Kochikame can't even touch it and it's been in print for a long amount of time, like 1976.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on May 02, 2014, 03:17:22 PM
Ah sweet, Ultimate Muscle.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 02, 2014, 06:33:57 PM
No Shonen Jump this week, so I didn't have much to read. I already fangasmed over the awesomeness of the new Conan chapters earlier, and I have nothing to add there, so all that's left is...

Magi chapter 223 - Ah, this chapter more than makes up for last week. In order to help Solomon make the right choices, Arba and Sheba plan to be pillars of support for him, Arba helping him in the times he must be a tough leader, and Sheba being there for him when he's on the verge of losing his way. Lots of nice scenes, emotional and humorous, here, and the chapter also gets me wondering if Arba might actually be Gyuokuen (they do look kinda similar..). I'm curious to see if that's the case in future chapters.

Peephole chapter 22 - I don't get why Miyachi doesn't see cops as people so she thinks it's okay to kill them, but it did make for some funny scenes, so okay. She certainly is pretty devious, having devised a way to pin the murder of the cop on Fuyjiura in a split-second before she killed him. This manga is honestly starting to become legitimately good now, and I'm actually excited to see what crazy shit'll go down next time. Well done, Peephole.

Rankings:

1. Detective Conan - 10/10
2. Magi - 10/10
3. Peephole - 9/10

Quality over quantity this week, I'd say. Still would've loved to read a new Toriko, but alas, I can wait 'till next week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 10, 2014, 04:12:18 PM
This week was rather lacking...

Assassination Classroom chapter 88 - Nice to see Itona fitting in with the rest of the class. His role is likely going to be that of a tactician or inventor of sorts for the group considering his expertise in building things and his high intelligence. And so Korosensei's weak spot is his heart, which is in the same spot as his tie is. I'll be interested in seeing how they exploit that information. Shiro, on the other hand, continues to be a creepy bastard (what with eating a live mouse and all that), and his plans to exploit the natural assassin in the classroom, whoever that is, is curious, as is his backup plan. This manga sure knows how to keep interesting, I can say that much.

Bleach chapter 579 - So Gremmy was a brain all along. Okay. Nothing really happened in this chapter except Yachiru is missing and that female group of Quincies have appeared to fight Kenpachi. Eh. How many enemies do we have to see get beaten until Ichigo can fight Uryu and Juha Bach already, seriously?

Naruto chapter 675 - Madara manipulating Rin's death and stuff is just stupid, as is Naruto suddenly being able to heal people's body parts for no good reason. I'm calling it now, but Naruto probably has the ability to bring people back from the dead too, because he's teh messiah super sugoi or whatever. Really, really stupid chapter.

One Piece chapter 746 - I laughed so hard at "God" Ussop having the highest bounty. That alone made this chapter. Other stuff here was just okay, though.

Peephole chapter 23 - And now Kurosou is hiding Fujiura in his house. Not too much happened this time outside from this, though.

Stealth Symphony chapters 10-11 - So the Mermaid boss is defeated by Troma and Jig is assured that he helped out the situation despite not being able to protect people as well as he wanted to. And then a bunch of convoluted stuff about the Assassin's Guild and Police having manipulated the whole scenario to take down the slave traders and pharmaceutical company. Whatever. I'm not sure if this manga is canned or not since 11 seemed like a wrap-up chapter. Kind went out on a lame note if that's the case, but too bad, it had some potential. Well, we'll see next week or not if it's continuing or not, I suppose.

Toriko chapter 276 - Toriko is more of a badass than ever and can take down level 600 beasts without even fighting them now and the Frog approaches the group all chill like on his motorbike. Ah, how fun this manga is.

Rankings:

1. Assassination Classroom - 9/10
2. Toriko - 8.5/10
3. One Piece - 8/10
4. Peephole - 7/10
5. Stealth Symphony - 6.5/10
6. Bleach - 3/10
7. Naruto - 1/10

Not one of the better weeks of late, I must say. There's usually at least one 10/10 worthy chapter of the bunch, but nothing that good this week. Oh well.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on May 10, 2014, 04:23:25 PM
Whoa, a modern day Bleach chapter that's better than a Naruto chapter?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 10, 2014, 04:24:18 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on May 10, 2014, 04:23:25 PM
Whoa, a modern day Bleach chapter that's better than a Naruto chapter?

That....isn't really saying much....
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on May 10, 2014, 04:26:38 PM
Hmm, I did hear that Naruto has been getting even worse so I guess you're right.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 10, 2014, 04:28:46 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on May 10, 2014, 04:23:25 PM
Whoa, a modern day Bleach chapter that's better than a Naruto chapter?

There's been plenty of weeks where I found the Bleach chapter was better than the Naruto one, but that's relative and as you can see by the scores both still are terrible. That said, I don't always hate the new B and N's; sometimes, though rarely, they can produce a chapter I can legitimately like. That doesn't change the fact that, overall, they are awfully written, but I'm judging these on a week by week basis so there are ups and downs (though B and N are almost always down).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 14, 2014, 11:33:48 AM
Speaking of manga that we've grown tired of....good god has One Piece become boring. Oda has introduced too many new characters, and the last several chapters have been nothing but him rapid-switching between all of their plot-lines. I'm also getting sick of the lame jokes. So, Peka has a high-pitched voice while being really massive. It's funny....because it contradicts expectations? Maybe, but that's pretty juvenile humor at best. God Usopp isn't funny either because Oda already used that concept with Buggy, and even then it wasn't really that funny.

I don't know. I feel like this manga has completely lost sight of what made it special in the first place.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 14, 2014, 03:27:08 PM
Eh, I'm not sure I can be quite as pessimistic about recent OP chapters as you are. My enjoyment of the series is more just inconsistent, with some parts I get a kick out of and then others that bore me. But I am annoyed by Oda's stale jokes and the overabundance of characters and plotlines that fail to work in a cohesive way. It's still got an appreciable energy to it most of the time so I can't say I'm bored with it, but certainly, it's nowhere near as exciting to me as it was back in it's prime. I do think Oda has lost touch with how to write most of the characters, though, which is a feeling I've had ever since Fishman Island. As it stands, I still think new OP chapters are entertaining, but it's no longer something I'm excited to read every week, unlike some of the other manga I keep up with.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 17, 2014, 06:55:21 PM
Since I caught up on Kuroko, I'll start talking about new chapters of it too, especially since the match with Rakuzan has to be drawing to a close. Anyway, this week was a fair bit better than the last...

Attack on Titan chapter 57 - So, Reiss' plan is to have Eren get eaten by another titan, to make someone easier to control with the titan-transformation ability and the cry power. At first I was confused by this, but reading the chapter again and after learning about Ymir's backstory as hinted in an OVA, this is a sound plan and explanation. Though, we still need to know how Berthold's group has the ability to become Titan's in the first place, and how other human beings (like Connie's mom) can be transformed into titans. The beginning of this chapter was good in how it furthered/explained the plot as it stands. I also enjoyed the scenes where Erwin promises to get to the bottom of Reebs' murder and Hange and Flegel talking about what they need to do, as well as the group questioning whether they should continue following Levi despite his violent methods. The concept behind Kenny the Ripper, a killer hired by the government secretly, is not particularly interesting but Levi's connection to him his and hopefully the clash between the two will help develop his character a bit more (though, as it stands, he's probably one of the better ones in this series). Good chapter this time. The series just might be getting a bit better.

Bleach chapter 580 - This chapter was mostly the quartet of female quincies massacring squad 11 with their abilities and beating up an already worn out Kenpachi. I suppose it was sorta of amusing, in the mindless carnage sort of way. I wonder who's arriving from Hueco Mundo to bail Kenny's ass out now? Hopefully Grimmjow, because it's been forever since that cliffhanger and we know he's coming sometime, so why not?

Detective Conan chapters 896-897 - SHUICHI AKAI IS BACK BITCHES! And we finally learn Bourbon's real name! And it looks like he might be a double agent of sorts, trying to take down the Black Organization himself. At least, I don't think Conan would have confronted him unless he knew he wouldn't reveal his identity to higher ups in the organization, which if he was truly a loyal member, he would. Awesome chapters, and I'm excited to learn the secret behind "Zero" next week.

Kuroko no Basket chapter 261 - Sigh, Akashi continues to be an over the top and cliche superiority-complex antagonist, as well as stupidly over powered. I mean, making Hyuuga and Izuki "kneel" and some of his dialogue here was just cringe-worthy to me. I did like the scene where Kagami asks everyone to leave Akashi to him and they do so because they trust him as their ace. HOWEVER, I do not care for the revelation there is a zone that surpasses the zone. I mean, the zone was one thing. People IRL say they are in the zone when they concentrate hard and are efficient at something and the manga just took that idea and played it as a kind of "power-up" that made sense and wasn't too unrealistic. However, saying there is a zone beyond the zone means that basically the zone really is a shonen power-up along the lines of super-saiyan now. The way this is set up, there is no doubt that Kagami is going to enter this second level of the zone. And if he beats Akashi that way, well, it's bullshit because Rakuzan really has no business losing at this point and as much as I hate Akashi doing that would be a out of nowhere powerup that serves just to beat the antagonist, an action no better than in the likes of many a shitty battle shonen. So, I really hate the beginning and ending of this chapter. It really is too bad that this series' biggest match to date continues to be it's worst.

Magi chapter 224 - Sheba standing up for Solomon was a great scene and his recognition of her as a truly powerful magician felt well-deserved. And with that done, this flashback arc can hopefully move on to it's last act and we can see how things fall apart. And boy am I interested in seeing that.

Naruto chapter 676 - This was just kind of boring, but at least the Infinite Tsukiyomi or whatever has finally been activated. I mean, it'll probably be undone in a chapter or two if not quicker, but it means this battle with Madara is getting ever closer to ending so yay for that.

One Piece chapter 747 - I loved the scene with Dolfamingo and his crew, where we learned that he really sees them as a family and there's a strong bond between them. Considering Doflamingo is one of the most cruel, twisted characters in the series I liked this extra bit of depth to him and hope it's expanded upon in the future. The comedy in this chapter really brings it down though, especially the Pica's voice joke which simply doesn't work in a manga as it would in the anime (and even then, it's a really overdone gimmick and not that funny in the first place). And again, too much of seeing the rest of the straw hats run around. But, with Luffy and co. confronted not only by Fujitora but by Pica as well, I'm hoping for an entertaining battle next week.

Peephole chapter 24 - Lol, for a whole month Fujiora was slowly food poisoning Kurosu, confused him about getting her pregnant as he was falling unconscious, and then got them acknowledged as legally married. And once that was done, she dropped her cute moe disguise and revealed her real, curvy, botox-faced identity. Pretty funny stuff.

Toriko chapter 277 - So, the frog's name is Mappy, and he's from the Bewitching Food World, Buranchi's village (which means we'll be seeing Buranchi again soon, yay!), which is one of the 7 ancient civilizations of the gourmet world. Oh man, there was just so much good stuff in this chapter, from the jokes about Mappy's frog-speak, to the frog-car, to the group's reaction to the footprint left behind by the Horse King Heracles, to the golden sea and a giant foot about to descend from the clouds. So much happened here and it was all gloriously informative without ever feeling to exposition-y and hilarious to boot. I love it.

Rankings:

1. Detective Conan - 10/10
2. Magi - 10/10
3. Toriko - 10/10
4. Attack on Titan - 8/10
5. Peephole - 7.5/10
6. One Piece - 7/10
7. Bleach - 4/10
8. Kuroko no Basket - 4/10
9. Naruto - 4/10

So, actually, a lot of really good chapters this week. That's always great to see. I really hope the fan-translators resume All You Need Is Kill by next week, though. There should only be four chapters left, and I'd like to finish reading it before Edge of Tomorrow comes out (assuming that movie will be worth going to see).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 17, 2014, 07:07:23 PM
I disagree. This week's One Piece chapter was shit, much like it has been for a while. It was sporadic and unfocused, the humor was lame, and I still have yet to give a shit about any of the characters, even the freaking straw-hats. I'd give that a 4/10, myself.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 17, 2014, 07:28:24 PM
Most of your complaints don't really disagree with my thoughts on how the series has been recently, except that you found no entertainment at all in this chapter whereas I at least liked the scene with Dolfamingo and his crew as well as Fujitora's scenes. Because I enjoyed those parts, I just can't say I thought it was a "shitty" chapter, myself, and I'm perfectly capable of hating a OP chapter as much as a chapter from anything else.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on May 17, 2014, 07:30:28 PM
Typical EK bluntness. :D
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 20, 2014, 10:00:19 PM
The first volumes of Assassination Classroom (http://www.rightstuf.com/1-800-338-6827/catalogmgr/7mE7Nisa2N0gKG=4pe/browse/item/102672/4/0/0) and World Trigger (http://www.rightstuf.com/1-800-338-6827/catalogmgr/7mE7Nisa2N0gKG=4pe/browse/item/102680/4/0/0) are now available to pre-order on Rightstuf.

I will try to keep up with the AC releases, since the series is providing me with consistent entertainment week after week, and I would like to give it my support. As for World Trigger, I really need to get around to reading it, since I've heard many good things about it. Same with Shokugeki no Soma, which Viz is releasing starting this August.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 20, 2014, 10:30:07 PM
I tried reading AC a few months back. It's not bad by any means, but it's also a very specific brand of humor that I need to be in the right mood for, hence why I didn't keep up with it.

I'll be giving One-Punch Man a shot soon enough, though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 20, 2014, 10:41:05 PM
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on May 20, 2014, 10:30:07 PM
I tried reading AC a few months back. It's not bad by any means, but it's also a very specific brand of humor that I need to be in the right mood for, hence why I didn't keep up with it.

I'll be giving One-Punch Man a shot soon enough, though.
How about Vinland Saga? I'd like to see your comments on that one.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 20, 2014, 10:45:12 PM
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on May 20, 2014, 10:30:07 PM
I tried reading AC a few months back. It's not bad by any means, but it's also a very specific brand of humor that I need to be in the right mood for, hence why I didn't keep up with it.

Understandable. Personally, the series started to pick up for me around the 40 chapter mark, and I was really impressed with it's first (and to date, only) "serious" arc. I can see why it wouldn't be some people's cup of tea, but it's something I find myself looking forward to and enjoying each week.

Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on May 20, 2014, 10:30:07 PM
I'll be giving One-Punch Man a shot soon enough, though.

Please do.  :)

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 20, 2014, 10:41:05 PM
How about Vinland Saga? I'd like to see your comments on that one.

Speaking of, I caught up on Vinland Saga last saturday morning. I'll post some elaborate thoughts on it once I finish a couple other things I've been reading, but I will say, it's become one of my favorites.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 20, 2014, 10:55:51 PM
I'd also like to see those!  :)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 20, 2014, 10:56:37 PM
I'll be starting Vinland Saga as well.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 22, 2014, 12:17:21 AM
So, this week's chapter of OP, while still sporadic, brought up one interesting concept to me: are a lot of these big names going to become allies of the Straw Hats (or at least Usopp, making them Luffy's allies by extension), or is this just a one-time thing. I thought of this because Whitebeard had a ton of allies to call to his side at Marineford for the war (they weren't all directly his own crew), and it's implied that the other pirate emperors have a bunch of allies as well to support their forces. I'm wondering if Oda is trying to build these sorts of connections for the Straw Hats so that they can really contend with the major powers of the sea later on. It'd certainly be a nice change of pace to go that route, but since the idea sounds so awesome, I kind of doubt that's what the current Oda has in mind, since he hasn't done much to change the status-quo of the world of OP since the time-skip following Marineford.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 22, 2014, 10:29:22 AM
I do think these characters will appear again as allies for the Straw Hats down the line. The Straw Hats have been gaining allies and support from all sorts of people throughout their adventures, and I've always thought that in whatever the climactic conflict in this series will be, that support network would help them out in some way. I could very well see what happened in this chapter to turn into a new sort of Pirate Alliance centered around the Straw Hats, much like Whitebeard's alliance in the Marineford arc. It all depends on how the rest of this arc goes, I suppose.

Honestly, this chapter was easily the most focused in a long time. It was only about the various pirates meeting up with Luffy and forcing him to let them help him take down Doflamingo, and joining the ongoing fight with Pica. I honestly thought it was easily the funniest chapter in a long time too, mostly for Cavendish's parts which was had me laughing pretty hard.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 24, 2014, 10:01:25 AM
Not a particularly great week this time.

Assassination Classroom chapter 89 - The naming joke for Masayoshi was too much of a japanese pun to really work for me, though I understood it because I watched Samurai Flamenco so I got a bit of a "oh" moment when they said the alternate reading of the name is "justice." The chapter is basically giving all the characters offensive but appropriate nicknames, some of which like "Not-Takoaka" and "Forever O" were funny, others not really so. The chapter didn't really have much to it besides that and felt short, so it didn't really do a lot for me this time.

Black Butler chapter 93 - Nothing really happened in this chapter. At least, nothing worth 30 pages. It repeated revelations we already knew from last month's and then then added the townspeople demanding the Green Witch evict Ciel and co. from the town, and then some of the humans are actually were-wolves, I guess. This was just really boring to read.

Bleach chapter 581 - Shinji and Momo have rejoined the battle...but they probably will be useless so, whatevs. And Ichigo is back to bail Kenpachi's ass out. Okay. There wasn't anything good or bad about this chapter, it's just 15 pages hyping Ichigo being back. And that's boring.

Magi chapter 225 - Things are not going well for Solomon. Though he tries to keep the species together, there is just no resolving the tensions and mistrust between them, and conflicts continue to periodically break out, and he must continually exert his power and authority to quell them. He may very well be on the dark path to becoming like his father, at this rate. But anyway, Sheba is pregnant! Hmm, I wonder who the child is?... :>

Naruto chapter 677 - Damn. This was a pretty disturbing chapter. Everyone is basically wrapped hypnotized, wrapped in cocoons and connected to the God tree. This Infinite Tsukiyomi thing is a pretty oh-shit kind of deal since the only people not affected are the Edo Tensei's. I'm curious to see how Naruto and co. are going to stop Madara now, since without the protection of Sauske's Susanoo they'd be hypnotized as well. Now, was this worth 210 chapters are 4.5 years of waiting? HAHAHAHHAHAH No. This is kind of a lame payoff. I mean, fucking extending trees? C'mon. But, this chapter, by itself, is alright to me because of it's tone, so I'll throw a bone to Kishimoto here and say it's a decent 'un, but I'm docking it points for not being worth the build up.

One Piece chapter 748 - This was the most focused chapter in a good while, since it only was about one thing - the other Colosseum competitors joining Luffy to take down Doflamingo, and joining the ongoing fight with Pica. It was also easily the funniest chapter in a long time too, and I particularly laughed at Cavendish's parts here. It'll be interesting to see where this alliance will go in future battles, and possibly beyond this arc.

Peephole chapter 25 - Fujiora has one hell of a plastic surgeon. Damn is she crazy. Crazy hilarious! But she's savvy enough to know someone set her up at the hospital. And the ending of this chapter...yeah, I don't think Kurosu is dead, and I wonder if Miyachi has something planned to trick Fujiora. Real funny chapter this time. I'm liking this series more each passing week.

Stealth Symphony chapter 12 - This chapter was too full of stuff, and quite frankly, it's hard to care because none of the characters besides Jig and Troma are really fleshed out yet, so having a new plot thread focused on Alice doesn't seem interesting no matter what kind of past you'll give her. I know this series hasn't been doing well in the rankings and probably will be canceled soon, but I still expected better stuff from the guy who wrote Baccano and Death Note.

Toriko chapter 278 - Komatsu's face when everyone chose him to navigate the Octopus was priceless, as was Mappy's degeneration into a tadpole from the depression of being trapped under the Golden sea. A classic, humorous, and adventurous Toriko chapter here.

Rankings:

1. Toriko - 9/10
2. Magi - 8/10
3. One Piece - 8/10
4. Peephole - 8/10
5. Assassination Classroom - 8/10
6. Naruto - 6/10
7. Bleach - 5/10
8. Stealth Symphony - 5/10
9. Black Butler - 5/10

There weren't that many bad chapters this week, but nothing particularly great either. I'll just have to hope for better stuff next week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 29, 2014, 12:18:10 PM
The new chapter of Hunter X Hunter is finally out. A bit too exposition-heavy for my tastes (as if we didn't already get enough of that during the Chimera Ant arc), and it's all only really saying one obvious thing: The Dark Continent = Bad!

So, it's a pretty mediocre chapter in and of itself, but I am certainly interested to see where this series will be going with this concept. It's sort of like how in One Piece the New World was promised to be more bizarre and dangerous than ever, but disappointingly it's just like the fucking Grand Line all over again. With HXH, I have no worries about its so-called "New World" living up to the title of Dark Continent.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 30, 2014, 04:29:29 PM
Ah, looks like Viz is releasing the complete All You Need Is Kill in a single omnibus in November (https://twitter.com/VIZMedia/status/471392312371978240/photo/1). That's nice to see. AYNIK was a fun manga with some excellent artwork from Obata and I've enjoyed keeping up with it until now, so if I have the scratch, I'll be sure to pick this up.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 31, 2014, 07:18:44 PM
This was a rather solid week, actually. Helps that it's the first week I can talk about Vinland Saga and HXH has returned!

Bleach chapter 582 - This felt kind of short. It's basically just Ichigo easily beating some of that Quincy gang and that fight starting, plus some bit about Juha Bach planning to do....something. Like, not a lot really happened here, but at the same time, there wasn't anything awful in this one either. It's certainly a step up from the Gremmy bullshit from the previous weeks.

Hunter X Hunter chapter 341 - And so, HXH finally returns! The first half of this chapter was kind of boring, though, since it was basically a bunch of exposition and featured random characters that I kinda doubt will be much important in the grand scheme of things (and basically everything that happened in that scene was basically to say that the Dark Continent was dangerous....which is, y'know, obvious. But I did like the second half of the chapter when it switched back to the Zodiacs and we learned Beyond led the failed expedition 50 years ago, and then the Zodiacs planning to get Ging to lead the voyage among other approaches, and then the ending of the chapter where Beyond appears and asks them to contact V5 and tell them they've captured him. I wonder what his plan here is. All in all, while it was a bit too expositiony in parts, I thought this chapter gave a good first sense of where the arc might be going and I hope to see what Beyond's gambit here is next week. Good to have HXH back, for however long that'll be.

Kuroko no Basket chapters 262-263 - These chapters were pretty good, actually. I mean, Akashi's bits still annoyed me, but Kuroko telling Kagami to give up on trying to take him on alone, and instead work as a team against him, was the right direction considering that teamwork and the Kuroko/Kagami partnership is what this series is based on and the anithesis to Akashi's playing style. Kuroko knowing Kagami so well that he's able to perfectly support and predict Kagami's moves, even more so than Akashi, was well-done payoff to Kuroko's sense of observation and relationship with Kagami all this time,  and is something that has finally outmatched Akashi's own "Emperor Eye" skill, which makes it the first time so far he's been beaten outwitted and outplayed in such a way. Now this is a direction I can get behind instead of that shitty second door idea. But, though this is a step in the right direction, the series could still do that or something more groan-worthy. I'll wait and see how this plays out, but I will say this is the first time in a while I've liked any part of this match, which is a plus.

Magi chapter 226 - All Solomon wanted was to be equal to everyone else. He did not want the position of leader or a position of power thrust upon him. He did not want to see people bow down before him. But, with all the fighting and conflict between the species, there was only one way to unify everyone, and restore order and peace. For the sake of this, Solomon had to become what he did not want. He had to become a King. And thus, the birth of King Solomon. Though his closest followers promise not to treat him less casually than usual, we've seen in the past that they too cannot resist the urge to revere him and hold him of higher status than they as well. Solomon is worried, above all else, that being entrusted with such power and authority he will become corrupted and arrogant, and a dictatorial and oppressing figure like his father. Luckily, he has in Sheba someone who will never be afraid to call him out on bullshit or when he gets out of line, but it's clear he's still troubled. So the look on his face when Ugo tells him that the one thing every being on the planet is equal in is the rukh says a lot. That one idea must have really made an impression on him and uplifted his spirit, and given him hope for creating the equal world that he wants. This was an excellent chapter in how it developed Solomon's character, paying off on many established aspects about him while setting up some more things for down the road. Next week's chapter looks to be the beginning of the final showdown with Elder David, and I'll be interested in seeing how that turns out as well.

Naruto chapter 678 - Some of the dream worlds of the people trapped in the Edo Tensei were kinda sweet and funny. But this chapter's big twist is awfully dumb.  Zetsu, this whole time, was actually working under Kaguya's will, and Madara was a just a pawn in her grand scheme. Kaguya was only introduced, like, 6 chapters ago, so this is kind of sudden. It also feels incredibly cheap because they've been fighting Madara for 100+ chapters now and he was actually set up properly even though his character and motivation is dumb. So, the first half of this chapter is okay, then it's tedious for a while when Madara is spouting his peace crap and we go through the same "YOU GONNA LOSE" "NO I AINT BECAUSE I AM THE MESSIAH AND I GOT FRIENDS" bullcrap, and then out of nowhere plot twist. Surprisingly, this was probably did not make me all that pissed off like a lot of recent chapters have, and mainly that's because I think I'm just getting tired and used to this kind of crap so I'm like, whatever.

One Piece chapter 749 - This chapter was the most boring one in a while. Like there's all of this action going on in the fight against Pica and stuff, but it's so cluttered visually that htere's no momentum and nothing is exciting or interesting here at all. The very end of the chapter, with Law revealing he actually has a personal grudge against Doflamingo as well, that he killed his best friend who also happened to be Doffy's brother, and so I'm guessing this is going to segue way into Law's backstory which I am interested in seeing. Though, one thing that bothered me was Law telling Luffy he recognized his plan was "indirect and inefficient." If he knew this, why the hell he didn't think of a better plan in the first place! I dunno, that line kinda rubbed me the wrong way. No new chapters of OP the next two weeks because Oda got his tonsils taken out, so hopefully chapter 750 will be worth the wait.

One-Punch Man chapter 47 - Oh man Boros is so pissed off. Seeing Saitama utterly own him will be glorious. But the action in this chapter was fucking amazing and brilliantly drawn. Murata is most certainly a master of fight scenes. I don't even care that the chapter was so short, because it was so exciting and awesome I was completely satisfied. Can't wait for certain payoff in the next.

Stealth Symphony chapter 13 - Last chapter had me wondering why the fuck I should care about an arc about Alice. This chapter made me like Alice, and hence be interested in the story. There was just enough charter expansion, humor, backstory, and interactions here to make her an interesting enough character. So good turnaround there. Everyone's pointed out that new villain kind of looks like Crocodile, and that's not a bad design to rip off if you're trying to pick up interest in your series, and he definitely made an impression here what with blowing a guy up by force feeding him gold coins he dripped out like blood from his body and whatnot. This new story arc looks like it'll be fun, though only time will tell whether it'll be the series' last before cancellation or if it'll save it from that fate.

Toriko chapter 279 - Whoa, what a chapter. Joa isn't Frohze after all, rather, she's her "daughter." Not only that, she's working with the Blue Nitro council. Shit, the Blue Nitro have a fucking civilization. That's scary to think about considering how much of a menace the mindless, ravenous Nitro are, though it also explains why the one who was friends with Ichiryu could talk and was very human-like in his mannerisms. And it seems like Joa is finally ready to make her move and collect Acacia's full course for herself. As far as Toriko's group goes, Komatsu's food luck has guided them out of the golden swamp and they are now finally at the Bewitching Food World, and oh how Shimabukuro is teasing us of Buranchi's return. I can't wait for that. A great chapter, as always.

Vinland Saga chapter 104 - Looks like Haalfdan's wife, Asrid, wants him to reconsider marrying off their son to Gudrid. Of course, Haalfdan wants the marriage to happen for the sake of a blood-alliance, though as Asrid points out their marriage was clearly not done under such a pretense. It's clear, anyways, that Gudrid is ultimately not going to marry Haalfdan's son (that's just obvious as far as this kind of set-up goes, even if you don't take into account the historical Gudrid married the historical Thorfinn and whatnot). But anyway, that's not the meat of this chapter, which was Thorfinn and co. asking Haalfdan for a partial loan, ships, and supplies to fund and aid their effort to colonize Vinland. This led to some explanation of that plan, which is to recruit 100 people from Greenland to accompany them, and then Thorfinn and Einar would take the lead in the farming process there. The biggest revelation in this chapter is that Leif's brother had earlier attempted a colonization effort but had come into a violent conflict with the native Skraelings and it fell apart. With Thorfinn's nonviolent stance, though, Leif's confidence that things won't turn out similarly on their attempt is fairly justified, unless he's hiding more details more him and the rest. I'm interested in seeing what Haalfdan wants to talk to Thorfinn about in the next chapter.

Rankings:

1. Magi - 10/10
2. Vinland Saga - 9/10
3. Toriko - 9/10
4. One-Punch Man - 8.5/10
5. Hunter X Hunter - 8/10
6. Kuroko no Basket - 8/10
7. Stealth Symphony - 8/10
8. One Piece - 7/10
9. Bleach - 6/10
10. Naruto - 5/10

Overall, there were a lot of really good chapters this week. Hopefully next week can be as good. And again...WHY THE FUCK HAVEN'T THE FINAL CHAPTERS OF ALL YOU NEED IS KILL BEEN POSTED ALREADY. Goddamit, I'm sick of waiting for those. Detective Conan better get updated next week too or I'll really be steamed.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 01, 2014, 03:41:30 PM
I already posted my thoughts on HXH.

As for OP, this chapter really contains a lot of my gripes with the current artwork. Oda just has way too much happening on each page. He also has all of these spreads which should make it easier to show big scenes and make it all look clear, but these contain some of his most visually cluttered scenes instead. I feel like he's trying to cram so much into each scene to make them feel more epic, but this is a case where more does not mean better. The artwork in the earlier parts of this series was much better, when it was all simple and easy to follow.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 04, 2014, 10:37:35 AM
Another exposition-heavy HXH chapter. Togashi just loves those, doesn't he?

This time we at least learned a few more things than in the last chapter. Namely, that the world that we know of in HXH is really only a relatively small body of land in in giant ocean, and now we're seeing that the Dark Continent is all the rage among everyone who's anyone in this series. It's interesting seeing Ging proposing to temporarily team up with Pariston, considering that those guys are polar opposites.

Really, though, I didn't mind the exposition so much, but I'd like the story to get back to Gon before too long. I don't really care for it when manga like this tnd to forget about their main characters almost completely.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 04, 2014, 11:56:25 AM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 04, 2014, 10:37:35 AM

This time we at least learned a few more things than in the last chapter. Namely, that the world that we know of in HXH is really only a relatively small body of land in in giant ocean, and now we're seeing that the Dark Continent is all the rage among everyone who's anyone in this series.

So basically, the Dark Continent is exactly the same as the Gourmet World in Toriko.  :lol:

Ging and Pariston agreeing to temporarily work together is a cool development. I actually don't care when the story gets back to Gon because I'm more interested in Ging, Pariston, Beyond etc. than him as it is, but I do wonder how he's going to fit into the story when the time comes.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 04, 2014, 12:29:58 PM
Eh, Beyond is interesting as a concept for a character, but boring as an actual character. His only defining characteristics s so far are being smug and seemingly knowing more about the Dark Contient and V5 than the Hunters Association, which he uses to his advantage. Gon just recovered from a highly traumatic experience. I'd say it'd be more interesting to see how his character has grown since that time than it would be to see all of these characters that we just met and mostly don't care about (Ging and Pariston notwithstanding, because they are both awesome). He's also kind of the main freaking character of HXH, so it'd be kind of silly to not eventually go back to his story.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 07, 2014, 02:27:27 PM
This week was...meh.

All You Need Is Kill chapter 14 - Looks like a new scanlation group picked up AYNIK for the final four chapters. Well, I'm glad I'll finally be able to read them now, but this chapter was full of awkward sentences (and they renamed the Mimics something else for no reason) and stuff, so that's unfortunate. As for the chapter itself, nothing really happened except Rita and Keiji going off into battle. That's it. So...not much content in this one, but I guess it was still good, though the experience was marred a bit by the new group's translation. Mmm.

Bleach chapter 583 - Ichigo continues fighting the Quincy quartet, and he uses a new move at the end. That's all that really happens. I guess there are some "humorous" bits with the Quartet, but their dynamic and the jokes are basically a repeat of Harribel's fraccions back in the Arrancar arc, and it wasn't funny then, and it isn't any more funny now. Eh.

Detective Conan chapters 898-899 - Yukiko made the disguise for Akai so he could become "Subaru Okiya." And it seems that James Black knew all along of this as he felt the glue on Akai's hands before he "died," so Akai told him. It looks like Akai is going to continue masquerading as Okiya for the time being. And it also seems that Bourbon is trying to take down the organization from the inside, but that doesn't mean he's an ally of Conan or the CIA. In fact, he's still very much Akai's enemy, but it seems he won't make a move on him for now, since they have the same goal. But it seems he knows something about Vermouth, who seems to have a closer relationship to the boss than previously thought. Moreover, it seems that someone even higher up in the organization, Rum, is on the move now to get rid of the "rats" in the organization. Very exciting stuff...which of course means we have to immediately go back to a normal case the very next chapter! Yumi's been kidnapped and her shogi-playing boyfriend has to save her before his game time runs out! This looks to be a fun case, but I was really hoping the series'd stick with the main plot stuff for a while longer. But it looks like Sera and her mysterious younger sister are going to play a role in this case so maybe we're in for surprises yet...

Hunter X Hunter chapter 342 - The Dark Continent is basically the Gourmet World, V5 is going to create a subdivision called V6 to direct the exploration mission with backing from Kakin, Beyond convinces the Hunter Association to join him, and Ging and Pariston team up. Interesting stuff, though still too much exposition.

Kuroko no Basket chapter 264 - Akashi finally tastes defeat and shows an emotion (anger)! Seirin finally scores a point again and Akashi, who is also now out of the zone, misses a shot. Looks like Seirin has a chance to win while Akashi's still out of it. Pretty expected but good developments here. With Akashi knocked off his high horse I'm interested to see if his rebound will be well done, but considering how mishandled the character has been the entire series, I don't have much expectations of such.

Magi chapter 228 - Everyone prepares to go to war with Elder David and the capital...that's it. Not that much else of interest happened, though I liked the scene in the middle when Arba and Fallan's kid begs them not to go but Arba tells him they have to in order to protect those they care about. The end is curious in that it looks like Elder David wants Solomon to help him destroy the "God" of Alma Thoran, so it seems Solomon might be walking into a trap. I wonder how so.

Naruto chapter 679 - Madara is dead, just like that. No realization that he, the manipulator, was being manipulated the whole time like Naraku in InuYasha or anything but just bam, absorbed into Kaguya. Wow. Two years spent on fighting this guy and he goes out on a whimper without the satisfaction of the heroes beating him. Maybe this'll be a Kishin-like situation and he'll resurface again but goddamn this is lame. At least Kaguya is no-nonsense and immediately recognizes who Naruto and Sasuke are and tries to kill them, but her grand master plan is to turn everyone into fucking white Zetsus? Seriously? That is the ultimate plan of the master villain of this series, to turn everyone into Zetsus to make a Zetsu army...for what exactly? Wow is this dumb. I dunno even know what to say. I guess, like the WMR guys, I'm just done with feeling anything about this shit. I just hope this Kaguya fight doesn't drag too long so the series can end sooner.

Stealth Symphony chapter 14-15 - Slice is a cool villain with a cool plan of getting his own target to be his bodyguard. The orphanage director has come to finish her job, killing Jig and taking his Dragon legacy item. But Slice has broken Jig up with his assault, and now Jig is becoming a dragon. And it turns out he was crazy all along. Hmm. Pretty decent chapters, I guess. I do like Slice a lot and the concept of his plan. But the series is clearly getting canceled with is why it's wrapping up all these loose ends quickly and with these twists and whatnot. I wonder how many more weeks of it there are.

Toriko chapter 280 - The Bewitching Food World is like a full on supernatural japanese ghost town. Amazing, and so many hilarious moments, and all leading up to an annoyed Buranchi finally making his appearance yelling at the group to come to his place already. I was dying from laughter. A solid arrival-at-new-place-look-around-at-stuff adventure shonen chapter, and I look forward to seeing the story move forward with Buranchi tagging along next week.

Rankings:

1. Detective Conan - 8.5/10
2. Toriko - 8/10
3. Hunter X Hunter - 7/10
4. Stealth Symphony - 7/10
5. Kuroko no Basket - 7/10
6. Magi - 7/10
7. All You Need Is Kill - 7/10
8. Bleach - 6/10
9. Naruto - 3/10

Pretty mediocre week. Only Conan and Toriko were particularly entertaining for me. Not to say HXH, Magi, etc. didn't have good parts to them this week, but overall the chapters didn't leave much of an impression outside of those parts. Hopefully next week will be much better.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 11, 2014, 08:54:42 AM
Kurapika and Leorio have joined the Zodiacs and are going to the Dark Continent! Awesome, FINALLY Kurapika returns to the main story! And it looks like the owner of his clan's eyes, which is the target he's been seeking all this time is the fourth prince of Kakin who will be going on the voyage as well. Good that there's going to be development on Kurapika's part of the story. It's also great that Leorio is going to be prominently in this arc too, and is coming for reasons that make perfect sense. It'd be nice if Killua also came so we'd have all four of our main characters together again, but I guess we'll have to see about that (we still need to see how Gon's going to be coming along as well, after all).

Looks like Pariston's goal is to change the Hunter Exam in a way that will allow his underlings to move into the ranks of the Association easily, and then eventually Pariston will have effective control over it to do as he pleases. And Ging is now #2 is Beyond's group. Good stuff.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 11, 2014, 10:36:38 AM
This week's chapter was the first really good one since the series came back. Togashi has essentially given fans what they have wanted for years. He wrote Leorio and Kurapika back into the main story.

I have to admit that for some reason, I thought Leorio was going to recommend Gon to be a Zodiac, but I'm not complaining if it's Kurapika. It'd be awesome if Killua could come back as well, but even though he's my favorite HXH character, I don't mind him getting a break from the series since he's been in every story arc thus far. Gon will of course have to join somehow. And Gina's exchanges with Pariston in this chapter were just class. Even though it's just more set-up, it's the type of set-up that gets me pumped for what's about to come next.

On another note, Killua should totally get his own spin-off series if Togasgi ever manages to wrap-up HXH's main story. I know it'll never actually happen, but you have to admit that the idea could work, since Killua completely has the substance and depth to be a main character (he practically has been as much of a main character as Gon throughout most of the series, and he's just flat-out more interesting than him). Though, another part of me just hopes that Togashi does something completely new after HXH is over.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 11, 2014, 11:31:59 AM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 11, 2014, 10:36:38 AM
On another note, Killua should totally get his own spin-off series if Togasgi ever manages to wrap-up HXH's main story. I know it'll never actually happen, but you have to admit that the idea could work, since Killua completely has the substance and depth to be a main character (he practically has been as much of a main character as Gon throughout most of the series, and he's just flat-out more interesting than him). Though, another part of me just hopes that Togashi does something completely new after HXH is over.

While it's an interesting idea, I think the series is far a ways off from ending,  so I'm not sure how I'd feel about a spin-off about him just yet since we don't know where Killua'll be in terms of his character arc at the end of it. Personally I'd just prefer Togashi make a new manga.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 11, 2014, 12:01:27 PM
Personally I'd prefer he actually re-did the entire Three Kings arc of YYH and make the current one non-canon to give the series the proper ending that it deserved (because I'm the biggest YYH fan ever, and fuck that ending), but I'd be cool with a new series as well, though I'd like to see Togashi do a story without special powers or anything and just tell a good story with human characters. He's proven that he can do really good human drama if you look beyond the regular shounen tropes that overlay his stories. I'd like to see him really do something along those lines, though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 11, 2014, 01:48:35 PM
I think Togashi could write one heck of a political thriller, myself.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 11, 2014, 01:51:27 PM
Yeah, he seems to always feature some form of shady politics in many of his story arcs, and especially in the Chimera Ant arc.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 11, 2014, 01:52:52 PM
I think he could make good one shot stories that run for a volume or two before ending.

Sure would work to his strengths, too.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 11, 2014, 01:57:43 PM
It would probably do him better to just stop doing weekly serialized manga altogether, and instead just release complete graphic novels at his own pace. It would certainly suit his intermittent writing style far better. He's an incredibly popular mangaka in Japan, so I doubt he'd have a hard time finding a publisher. And of course, even if his content output was low, his wife will be raking in big money in royalties thanks to the new Sailor Moon anime, so the guy will have it made either way.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 16, 2014, 12:15:27 AM
This week more than made up for the disappointing chapters from last time.

All You Need Is Kill chapters 15-17 - The final chapters of AYNIK were great. The fight between Rita and Keiji was expertly drawn as were Rita's final moments, effectively sentimental. Obata did great work with this series throughout it's run. Overall I enjoyed the story. It had some unsatisfactory individual chapters here and there, but as a whole it's a strong story. I think I liked the movie even better, though, since it added more layers of characterization to Rita and Keiji/Will (admittedly the movies' versions are like totally different characters, but still). The ending of AYNIK is much better though, in my opinion. I just think everything made more sense in the way things turned out, and while the movie's ending is convenient for the sake of a "happy" ending, the film's ending is more solemn, as a sacrifice has been made and the war is not yet won.  I thought both were fun experiences, though, and I'm glad I kept up with this manga as it came out to get suitably hyped for the movie.

Assassination Classroom chapter 90 - This chapter spotlights a character I didn't even remember, Isogai, who is apparently a Ikemen, a perfect gentleman. Unfortunately his job in a host cafe has been uncovered by Asano and his lackeys in Class A. If the Principal finds out then he's going to get expelled, but Asano agrees to look the other way if Class E wins the Boutaoshi at the school athletic festival. And not only are they outnumbered, but Asano has called in the FOREIGNER SQUAD, 4 super tall super buff international exchange students looking to get rough and rowdy! I laughed at that reveal. Lots of good humor in this chapter, really. It'll interesting to see how Class E will overcome opponents who bought outnumber and overpower them in the Boutaoshi game.

Attack on Titan chapter 58 - Great action in this chapter with Levi's battle with Kenny the Ripper and his goons. With the plan busted they've got to make a hasty retreat. The ending of the chapter is surprising, since it seems that Reiss is apologetic for what he did to Historia, but this could be some sort of trick to make her and Eren drop their guard. Certainly, it's a twist that I'm interested in seeing developed next chapter.

Bleach chapter 584 - Bazz B shows up and screws over the Sternritter quartet in a needless betrayal just so he can fight Ichigo himself and claim the glory. Then pretty much every Quincy left shows up (including the Sternritter quartet), each one of them aiming to defeat Ichigo themselves. Ichigo obviously will not be fighting an 8 against 1 because there are so many characters Kubo needs to cram into the story like the Fullbringers, Squad Zero, and Grimmjow and whatnot but this setup means that should happen soon so at the very least the series is getting closer and closer to finishing. Meanwhile Juha Bach is doing something that somehow will make Uryu and guy who's name I don't remember one with him, somehow. As far as Bleach chapters go, this is inoffensive. Basically it's just more set-up and some decent humor bits. It's not exactly good, but this is Bleach, and I'll take chapters like this over shit like the Gremmy fight any day.

GTO: Paradise Lost chapters 1-5 - I wasn't planning on keeping up with this after reading the first chapter a few weeks back, but then I said...why not? Keeping up with one more manga isn't gonna hurt me none. I didn't like the first chapter because of shitty translations but...Onizuka in prison. That's an inspired idea with promise. But then the second chapter came out and...it turns out this series is going to be a flashback to show how Onizuka landed in prison, and is otherwise basically the same damn thing as the original GTO manga. Except now Onizuka is teaching Class G, which is a super top secret class for IDOLS that somehow was never mentioned before in the original manga despite it being a part of the school and apparently famous teen celebrities attending it. It's an absurd premise that really pushes my suspension of disbelief, but the worst part about it is that it is a frivolous gimmick since the end result is the same exact kind of shenanigans that happened to Onizuka before when he was teaching regular students. The manga so far is just going through the motions, doing exactly the same kind of stuff that was already done before and better in the original manga, and is hence really, really boring to read. Maybe it'll get better as it goes along, but these first 5 chapters did nothing for me.

Hunter X Hunter chapter 343 - Kurapika. Is. Back! I already talked about this chapter in this thread earlier, but I'm glad to have Kurapika back in the story alongside Leorio, and Pariston and Ging's conversation was excellent as well. And since the owner of Kurta clan's eyes is the 4th prince of Kakin who will be journeying on the Dark Continent voyage, Kurapika's personal arc should get resolved in this one, which I'm looking forward to. The next chapter will probably feature Gon and how he'll figure into the arc. I'm looking forward to when the gang finally reunites again.

Kuroko no Basket chapter 265 - Akashi game is off and his teammates can't hope to play against Seirin effectively without him, allowing Kagami to gain momentum and Seirin to close the gap to only two points behind. However, at the end of this chapter it seems that Kagami is tried out while Akashi has calmed himself. At the beginning of the chapter it seemed like his two personalities were conflicting inside his mind, and it seems that now that the old Akashi has resurfaced, and thus he probably can utilize his second skill that has been hidden thus far. A solid chapter and I enjoyed it. I know that Kagami will probably be forced to open the second door of the zone to counter Akashi's second skill to win the match and whatnot, and I'm not particularly looking forward to that, but this chapter actually did a good job making me care about Akashi and this game which is something that I haven't been able to say for most of this match, and I enjoyed it.

Magi chapter 228 - Solomon's forces invade the capital, and find that Arba has already brutally murdered Elder David...which is disturbing and behavior that further reinforces my belief Arba is Gyokuen. But, it turns out Arba hasn't really killed Elder David. Nope, he saw this coming and he and his forces aren't in the capital at all, and are attacking the rebels' home base and all it's innocent inhabitants. Worse, Solomon's group is trapped in the barrier surrounding the capital with no way to escape. So, they're screwed. No doubt they will find a way out, but whether they get back in time to safe many innocent lives is another story.

Naruto chapter 680 - Naruto can fly now, I guess. Outside of that there's some attempts to be sentimental and stuff that completely falls falt and I guess Kaguya is trying to return the chakra flow in the world back to her since all chakra in the world was once hers and everything. This Kaguya stuff is just...I have no clue what to feel about it. Again, I just can't even care about any of this. I can't even get mad anymore. It's all a wash now. I do wonder how long this battle will drag out, and if Madara will screw over Kaguya from within her and come back (a la the Kishin in Soul Eater or Naraku in InuYasha).

One-Punch Man chapter 48 - Awesome action scenes as usual. Saitama bouncing off of the Moon to return to Earth without even being fazed was epic, not to mention his barrage of normal punches pummeling Boros. I guess the series can't be called "One-Punch" Man anymore.  :D If only the chapter was longer, but greatness like this makes the waits worthwhile.

Rin-ne chapter 188 - This chapter is just a means of getting Matsugo acquainted with the rest of the main cast and establishing some character dynamics to play with in his future appearances. And it worked well. Matsugo has good chemistry with Ageha and that lead to some great bits here. I also like his black cat Kuromitsu. I hope she gets more fleshed out along the lines of level 6 Kurosu in future appearances (there needs to be more chapters featuring the black cats in general). Overall I thought this was a fairly amusing chapter and welcome the addition of Matsugo as a recurring character. I also appreciate that Takahashi has written a good gay character, which is frankly rare is shonen manga in general. Hopefully the joke in this chapter that Matsugo wants to get in Rinne's pants isn't abused since the character has a good personality that is not defined by him being gay, and good chemistry with both Ageha and Rinne. I guess I'll have to wait until his next appearance to see.

Toriko chapter 281 - The stuff with Burachi and the Daruma Hermit was absolutely hilarious. And Melk the 1st is back too! I wonder if he'll help out Toriko and the crew capture Air. I guess we'll see if he tags along when he explains how he survived next week. Also great in this chapter was Toriko recounting his meeting with Midora, and noting they are nowhere near his level, and fighting him shouldn't be their priority anyway. I always appreciate how level-headed Toriko is compared to other contemporary shonen protagonists. Overall, another really entertaining chapter with great hilarious parts and further plot advancement. With Toriko, I'd expect no less.

Rankings:

1. All You Need Is Kill - 10/10
2. Hunter X Hunter - 10/10
3. Toriko - 10/10
4. Attack on Titan - 9/10
5. Magi - 9/10
6. One-Punch Man - 9/10
7. Assassination Classroom - 9/10
8. Kuroko no Basket - 8/10
9. Rin-ne - 8/10
10. Bleach - 6/10
11. GTO: Paradise Lost - 6/10
12. Naruto - 4/10

I am extremely satisfied with this week of manga. The majority of these chapters were highly entertaining and pleased me on many levels. If only every week can be as good as this week. Looking forward to several new chapters this week, and hopefully, like these ones, they don't disappoint.



Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 19, 2014, 08:39:16 PM
I just caught up with the manga, which wasn't hard considering that it's only about 30 chapters ahead of where season 2 of the anime ended, and these chapters are short. I'm not a fan of long flash-back arcs (Remembrance is like THE main exception), but this one has gone kind of up and down for me. My main issue, though, is that the author decided to include it in the middle of an arc where tension between the 3 major empires of the story is as high as it's ever been. So, it's  hard to get invested in another story when you want to focus on the one that you were already reading. That said, this arc has had its moments.

As for chapter 229, I came to an odd realization: this series has a thing with displaying a lot of dead bodies as burnt corpses. Seriously, what's with that? Also, how was the kid even able to have enough strength to talk in that state before dying (yet everyone else was apparently long dead)? Yeah, I know, shounen logic, I shouldn't think too hard about it. Putting that aside, it was a good chapter, though it was all kind of expected. I'm assuming that Setta is dead as well, which would be yet another heavy blow to Solomon's team. Not to sound like an ass, though, but it was pretty stupid of the to only leave one capable magician behind to defend their home city. Obviously they considered the possibility of an attack, which is why they even left Setta behind in the first place to guard it, but if they thought that much into it, I think it should have been obvious that you'd need more than just one capable guy there if there was an attack to begin with. But, like I said, it's a shounen manga, and at that it's a flash-back arc that's specifically about how Solomon fucked up and how not to do it again, so I can't really fault it too much for that.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 19, 2014, 09:43:47 PM
Naruto kind of desensitized me to flashbacks interrupting the middle of an arc when they weren't wanted, so I'm not really bothered by how long the Alma Thorran arc is taking, especially since I find it a fairly interesting story in it's own right. I am wondering how long it will last. At the pace it's going, I could see it going to the end of the summer and I'd be ok with that, but I would like to go back to the story as soon as fall begins.

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 19, 2014, 08:39:16 PMAlso, how was the kid even able to have enough strength to talk in that state before dying (yet everyone else was apparently long dead)?

Yeah, I thought that was too overdone and a rather cliche way to illicit sympathy, but I did find it interesting since in the Sinbad's Adventure manga Falan is a member of Al Tharmen, and losing her kid in this fight might have been what made her turn against Solomon (though I wonder if this incident is also why Ithnan eventually betrays him too, or if there's something else that makes him later).

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 19, 2014, 08:39:16 PM
I'm assuming that Setta is dead as well, which would be yet another heavy blow to Solomon's team. Not to sound like an ass, though, but it was pretty stupid of the to only leave one capable magician behind to defend their home city. Obviously they considered the possibility of an attack, which is why they even left Setta behind in the first place to guard it, but if they thought that much into it, I think it should have been obvious that you'd need more than just one capable guy there if there was an attack to begin with.

The way I see it, Solomon didn't think that David and his forces would predict when would they attack or find out where their home base is with a large force of magicians, since they figured that most of his forces would be concentrated in the capital where they would be fighting, which is why they felt that Setta would be enough to handle any attacks on the home base since they didn't think there would be a large force of magicians, much less headed by David himself, attacking it. It was a mistake of underestimating his enemy and overestimating the soundness of their defensive strategy, and it suitably cost them.


Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 22, 2014, 08:17:11 PM
I caught up with three more manga in the last week: The Seven Deadly Sins, Shokugeki no Souma, and Magi: Adventure of Sinbad. As such, from now on I will be including them in my weekly recaps as well.

Assassination Classroom chapter 91 - Asano's plan seems to be partly based in revenge, but more based in his desire to ensure the status quo and his own goal. He wants Class E to lose so badly in the Boutaoshi that their short-term academic performance will suffer as well, and with mid-terms the next week, that will ensure that only Class A students take the top 40 slots while class E gets low results. Getting top high-school athletes from around the world to transfer into his class just for this is overboard, but he clearly doesn't want to take any chances, and the more crushing Class E's defeat the better. Interestingly, at the end of the chapter Class E takes the defensive right off the bat and Asano decides to go for it, but Nagisa and Karma, unquestionably the most skilled male assassins of Class E, are noticeably not part of the defense. While Asano is distracted they'll no doubt try and stealthily knock down Class A's pole, but since they aren't nearly as physically strong as Class A's foreign transfer students, I'm curious to see just how they will pull it off.

Black Butler chapter 94 - Looks like Sebastian's had enough of Ciel's whiny amnesia bullshit and is just going to eat his soul now since his refusal to do his duties is a violation of their contract. I'd loved to see the look on some fangirls face when Sebastian starts to pull Ciel's soul out into some black void or whatever. But, of course this series is far from over yet and Ciel will probably become his normal self again before his soul is devoured and whatnot.

Bleach chapter 585 - So Juha Bach's plan was that once Ichigo went to the Soul King's Palace and came back, there would be a 6000 second dimensional gateway portal open for him to invade it? This is basically Aizen's plan in kidnapping Orihime in Hueco Mundo all over again: lure the heroes to one location to distract them while he goes to a different location and traps them there. It was convoluted and lame before, and is no less now.

GTO: Paradise Lost chapter 6 - In GTO, Onizuka's "lessons" were all appropriate trials relevant to what those students were going through or did to him or another student. Now he just throws frogs on girls and spreads rumors about people having an embarrassing skin rash. Onizuka's trying to make them get rid of their high and mighty act, but unlike several examples I can remember from GTO, I fail to see how these methods are going to humble these students. This feels like Onizuka's trademark crazy shenanigans without the method that made them so endearing, and it doesn't help that these students' problems are either retreads of stuff already seen in GTO or cliche highschool tropes. At the end of this chapter a student comments that Onizuka might make life more "interesting," but until this series stops mimicking GTO's surface formula and really understands why it worked and how to make Onizuka's shenanigans mean something instead of just being random wackiness, it'll just be a lame retread.

Hunter X Hunter chapter 344 - It seems Kurapika has collected several more of his clan's eyes since we've saw him last, and the Prince holds the last of them. When he does get the last ones, though, what will he do? He doesn't believe he has a home or people to go back to. Telling was how distant he seemed to Leorio when they were talking on the phone. I feel that Kurapika's experiences have made him alienated from everything outside of his ambitions, including his friends. It will be interesting to see how he interacts with Leorio when they are reuinted in person again. This chapter was mostly about Ging convincing the rest of Beyond's group to accept him as their no. 2 by giving them money and promising not to force them to listen to any of his commands over Pariston's if they so wish. The rest of the chapter is him basically explaining all the dangers in the Dark Continent and more backstory on the original expedition there, including the locations of the 5 Calamities. The most interesting thing is at the end where he brings up that there was a pioneer 300 years ago who went to the Dark Continent and wrote a Journal, the second half of which is missing, and Ging's reasoning as to why is that the writer, Don Freccs, is still alive and still writing it. Interesting. Looks like they'll be searching for this guy when they go to the Dark Continent. Assuming he is still alive, the dude has to have some reason for staying there 300 years. Aside from all this, I have to wonder what's up with Gon. He seems to have lost his "aura," which might mean he's lost his ability to use nen. I hope we'll see what's up with him next chapter.

Kuroko no Basket chapter 266 - This chapter tries to give Akashi a developed backstory to explain his motivations and behavior up to this point, but the thing is, this is all stuff we could plainly see in the Teikou arc, and it didn't need to be spelled out for us again. However, the chapter serves it's purpose at showing Akashi switch his two personalities, and return to the game as the basketball-loving athlete he used to be. We didn't need a whole chapter for this considering how superfluous the content and explanation of Akashi's personalities are at this point, and as payoff this moment falls flat to me, but at this point I can welcome it since it's a sign that this game will be winding down, and hopefully, maybe become a bit more interesting now that Akashi obnoxious and pretentious personality is no more.

Magi chapter 229 - So Solomon acknowledges Ugo as the most powerful magician in all of Alma Thorran. That was kind of a nice moment. More interesting is the consequences of Solomon's fuck-up, in that everybody back at the home base has been brutally murdered. I thought the scene with Falan's kid was overkill, and a bit cliche, but interesting nonetheless considering that she is a villain in the Adventure of Sinbad manga, which means that, like Ithnan and Gyokuen (who I'm like 99% is Arba), she betrays Solomon at some point, and this event might have been the catalyst for that betrayal as well as a general rift in trust between Solomon and many of his comrades. I'm hoping to see if this idea is correct, and expanded upon, as this arc continues.

Naruto chapter 681 - Black Zetsu flat out says in this chapter that he is responsible for manipulating the entire history of the Naruto universe, even going so far as to change what actually happened in recorded history to suit his long-term agenda, an extremely convoluted plan that basically amounts to him being a whiny little child wanting to resurrect his dead mommy. This is a far worse bullshit than Aizen having manipulated Ichigo's entire life in Bleach, because this means that the entire history behind the Naruto universe resulted from Black Zetsu alone, and that no one else's accomplishments were truly theirs as they were all pawns in a complicated, long-term scheme. And while Naruto screams out in this chapter that Zetsu is not responsible for the history of ninjas or whatever, everything he says in this chapter shows that basically anything significant that happened to anyone important was a direct or indirect result of his manipulation. This is a pointless development that serves only to undermine the entire mythology of the series' universe and further dampens the credibility and tension of this climactic battle (need I remind everyone Kaguya was first mentioned only 8 or so chapters ago?).  I was going to give the series a full read through when it finished, to really evaluate how it stands as a whole, but I no longer see the need to do that. This single chapter ruins the integrity of Naruto's already problematic and misguided storyline, and I just do not see how this series can be salvaged at this point. 

One Piece chapter 750 - The way the last chapter ended I thought we were going to learn Law's backstory in this one...but instead, it's basically more fighting and running, needless "believe in Luffy" speeches that add nothing to the story, and then set-up for Sabo fighting Fujitora. I simply didn't find any of it very interesting, and though I would like to look forward to Sabo v. Fujitora, the series hasn't made me really excited during it's recent fight sequences and I can't muster hope this will be any different. Just a dud chapter, unfortunately.

The Seven Deadly Sins chapter 81 - So all this time Gilthunder has been manipulated by a demon that has been possessing Margaret, forced to go along with Hendrickson's ambitions in order to protect her. But now that Meliodas has destroyed the demon, Gilthunder is freed from this burden and can fight back with his hero against Hendrickson. Good stuff, and a real turning point in this battle. With his back against the wall Hendrickson is going to need to fulfill his ambitions quickly. Or, perhaps he's more than a match for Gilthunder and the severely worn out Meliodas by himself. He isn't a Great Holy Knight for nothing, after all. I guess we'll just see how all this unfolds in the next chapter.

Shokugeki no Souma chapter 74 - Leave it to this series make a turtle burger look like the most delicious sounding thing ever.  :D Seriously, I almost wanted to eat one myself after reading this chapter. Arata is certainly a skilled to make such a unique burger that not only stimulates someone's sense of tastes, but their sense of touch as well. However, it looks like Hayama's burger will be even better. I expected as much (also, this is a cooking manga, the one who goes shows their dish first loses 80% of the time), but I do wonder how his dish will stimulate the judges' tastes better than Arata's dish. Should be interesting to see the spice master apply his skills to a simple burger.

Stealth Symphony chapter 16 - Jig is crazy. Crazy, crazy, crazy. And dangerous. And a dragon. That's basically what this chapter is about, and it wastes no time hammering that in. It's kind of a left-field plot development, and I can only assume the series really is close to cancellation, and this is the direction it's taking to tie up loose ends. I did think the scene where Alice goes into his apartment building and sees he scribbled a bunch of crazy shit on the walls pretty fucked up, and the scene where he briefly recognizes Troma, and becomes remorseful, but then quickly becomes insane again was pretty well done too. Overall, though, I'm just kind of confused at this direction, but like a train wreck, I can't help but wanting to see where it's going.

Rankings:

1. Hunter X Hunter - 8/10
2. The Seven Deadly Sins - 8/10
3. Magi - 8/10
4. Shokugeki no Souma - 8/10
5. Assassination Classroom - 8/10
6. Kuroko no Basket - 7/10
7. Black Butler - 7/10
8. One Piece - 6/10
9. Stealth Symphony - 6/10
10. GTO: Paradise Lost - 6/10
11. Bleach - 5/10
12. Naruto - 1/10

Not very happy with this last week of manga. 7 out of 12 of these chapters were mediocre or worse, and among the good ones, though I certainly enjoyed them, there weren't really any standouts. I hope for more entertaining chapters this week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 23, 2014, 12:22:16 PM
That Naruto reveal is the equal of a certain reveal in the Yu Yu Hakusho manga that the staff wisely never brought over to the anime.

I know some writers thing this is clever, but its actually quite terrible writing. You're undermining your story for the sake of shock value that's, at best, paper thin. All in order to "surprise" fans. I've never met a fan who legitimately enjoys such twists, and there's a reason for that. Because it's deceptive of the author and disrespectful to the story and universe.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 23, 2014, 12:50:09 PM
It's worse in this case because Black Zetsu basically has manipulated not only the entire story of Naruto, but it's entire mythology and history as well. Basically, all the culture and every conflict ever mentioned in this story was fabricated all in order to fulfill Zetsu's objective, which was simply just to revive Kaguya, a character that, again, was only first introduced in the series 8 chapters ago with no hint of whatsoever beforehand, and has now replaced Madara, who, while not a particularly amazing character, had hundreds of chapters of build-up and a genuine charisma, as the main villain of the series....because.

There's no reason for any of this stuff to be happening. It feels like Kishimoto was just bored of Madara after having the battle with him dragged out for over literally 100 chapters, so he thought up of a "shocking" new twist that he felt would liven up the story, but instead, it just completely removes any tension this conflict has since, unlike Madara, Kaguya is a barely established and one-dimensional character, and with this twist, he's now undermined the entire story of Naruto as a whole. It's baffling, really.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 23, 2014, 01:07:06 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 23, 2014, 12:22:16 PM
That Naruto reveal is the equal of a certain reveal in the Yu Yu Hakusho manga that the staff wisely never brought over to the anime.

I know some writers thing this is clever, but its actually quite terrible writing. You're undermining your story for the sake of shock value that's, at best, paper thin. All in order to "surprise" fans. I've never met a fan who legitimately enjoys such twists, and there's a reason for that. Because it's deceptive of the author and disrespectful to the story and universe.

That's the same reason why Angel season 4 is trash. I absolutely HATE it when a series makes it so that everything that happened within its entire Universe (or even just a single story arc, for that matter), was under the complete control of the villains. It not only ruins the rest of the story, but even manages to undermine anything that it may have done well earlier in the story. It should also be noted that if you really scrutinize earlier story arcs when twists like these are revealed, that those arcs just don't line up with what the twist is implying, proving that the author just came up with it on the spot.

Seriously, it's beyond me how this manga is still popular. Kishimoto is a hack writer. He always has been.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 23, 2014, 01:12:19 PM
I've been reading The Adventures of Sinbad. It's a fun spin-off/prequel to Magi, so far, and I prefer it to the early parts of Magi which I found to be kind of boring until it developed a more fleshed out world and characters.

Meanwhile, I'm just hoping that the current Magi arc ends soon. I read chapter 230 and I just couldn't bring myself to care. It's not bad or anything, but I'm really just way more interested in where the current story is headed, and I really can't stand super long flash-back arcs that interrupt these stories. Everything that we have learned from this flash-back so far could have easily been told in less than half of the chapters that we've gotten so far. Either that, or they could have been revealed in bits and pieces as the next arc progressed in the modern timeline.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 23, 2014, 01:32:07 PM
Yeah, I felt Adventure of Sinbad starts off much stronger than the Magi manga did, and I was able to get into it really quickly. It's a welcome look into Sinbad's past and I think it'll just get better as it goes along.

As for chapter 230, I'm kind of confused at what Elder David exactly wanted. He blows himself up to supposedly be one with god, but before that he entrusts his staff to Solomon, who he flat out stated he never considered his son like a page ago, because he wants to see whether humans will be able to oppose fate under his leadership? There just seems to be a big disconnect between his actions and words, and that's kind of annoying since he was the big bad of this arc thus far. Well, I'd like to think this arc is entering it's final stages now, so we'll finally see how Solomon brings everyone together under, and then how everything falls apart, which is frankly what I actually wanted to see when this arc started anyway. I'd expect this arc will continue until the end of summer, and then the main story will resume in the fall.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 23, 2014, 07:04:59 PM
http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-06-23/domain-ansatsu-anime.com-registered/.75846 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-06-23/domain-ansatsu-anime.com-registered/.75846)

DUN DUN DUN! I knew it was only a matter of time before Assassination Classroom got an anime! The series is super popular, so I wonder how many cours the anime will last? I think the industry practice is leaning towards making seasons rather than have long-running full-year series these days, so my guess is that it'll be a good two cours to cover through chapter 73 (the end of the Island Time arc).

With Sailor Moon Crystal premiering next week, JoJo's going to be running for a year, and Parasyte, The Seven Deadly Sins, and Psycho-Pass 2 coming in the fall with AC probably following in the winter, it looks like I'm going to be keeping up with a lot of anime later this year.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 23, 2014, 10:03:22 PM
Assassination Classroom anime officially confirmed. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-06-23/assassination-classroom-manga-gets-tv-anime-and-live-action-film/.75871)

It's also getting a live-action film. I don't think AC will translate into live-action that well, but the fact it's being made is a testament to how popular this series is right now, and it's only two years old to boot! I'm hoping Brains Base will be doing the anime, but really, I'd be fine with most anyone except Toei. I'm also happy Tomokazu Seki will be reprising his role as Korosensei in the anime. His performance in J-Stars was spot-on.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 25, 2014, 10:49:31 AM
So, the prince is a psychopath. It'll make it fun to see if Kurapika kills him for the eyes.

Meanwhile Gon has to deal with the repercussions of what he did at the end of the Chimera Ant arc, mainly in the fact that he can't use Nen. I like that he has to deal with these consequences, but I fully expect Togashi to give him back his powers somehow. Still, it would be nice to see him not go that route and make this consequence permanent, and still have Gon be useful despite his lack of Nen, but I just don't see that happening. At any rate it wS nice seeing Gon reunite with Mito, and admit that he didn't really want to follow Ging, but rather just wanted to find him, and after he reached that goal he realized that he didn't really care to be at Ging's side.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 25, 2014, 01:48:27 PM
Considering Kurapika mentions in this chapter he was able to "persuade" two people who were vehemently against giving him the eyes without killing them, it's clear he has developed methods to get what he wants from people without needing to take lives.

I'm rather disappointed that the Prince is just some Yoshikage Kira-wannabe. Unless your psychopathic murderer just wants an ordinary life, I ain't interested, especially since quite frankly villains like these are a dime a dozen (I got serious deja-vu reading this part of the chapter). It would have been more interesting if the Prince was, like, a genuinely good person but involved in some dirty business and Kurapika was going to get morally conflicted about killing/torturing him trying to get his eyes back, or something like that. This set-up just makes it seem like Togashi is creating an intentionally despicable character just so that the audience can be satisfied once he's been taken out by Kurapika. Then again, Togashi has made seemingly shallow characters into well-developed complex ones like with Meruem, so I'll see where he goes with this guy too.

The Gon stuff in this chapter was great, though. He really has matured quite a bit since the start of the series, and, though I know it'll be temporary, it's nice to see repercussions from his actions in the Chimera Ant arc and see him adjust to his new circumstances. Ging's portion of the chapter was interesting also. Pariston is really getting screwed over now, and he's finally starting to get a little pissed off.  :D

Next week HXH won't have a new chapter. That was quick. At least it will be back the week after, and with a "special project," whatever that'll be.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 28, 2014, 06:20:15 PM
This was a really strong week overall.

Bleach chapter 586 - Ichigo is shocked that Uryu is on Juha Bach's side and yells out his name a lot. And Orihime and Chad return from Hueco Mundo. Remember them? Well, they're back to be completely useless again! Yay! But since they're here, I guess Urahara will come to, and he'll probably bring Grimmjow with him, so maybe that'll finally happen next week.

Hunter X Hunter chapter 345 - I already posted my thoughts on this chapter in the post above, so I won't go over that again. Looks like there's going to be a break next week, but the series will be back the week after. I doubt that Togashi would go on another hiatus without making enough chapters for a volume, so I think we won't to worry about that for a bit. In any case, I'm curious as to what the "special project" that will be announced when the series comes back will be.

Magi chapter 230 - I shared my thoughts on this one earlier this week as well. Basically, I find David's previous actions and his ones in this chapter disjointed and I'm not sure why he did what he did in order to achieve his goal, which is simply to become one with the god of Alma Thorran. In any case, I'm at least glad this stuff was finally resolved and we can move on to how Solomon's empire rises and falls apart, which really is what I've wanted to see this whole time.

Naruto chapter 682 - If Kaguya can transport them to other dimensions, why doesn't she just put them into space or something? And why send Sasuke off alone to some desert place when he can go through dimensions, while Naruto cannot. Really, nothing about this battle makes sense because in all respects Kaguya should be leagues above their level and be capable of so many different ways to kill them and end the battle easily. I'm not sure how to feel about Naruto using the Sexy Jutsu to catch Kaguya off guard. On one level, it's funny and sorta nice to see a long-time joke like that actually prove useful. On the other hand, though, it's pretty fucking stupid and this series has taken itself way too seriously lately for this to work. Not to mention the technique had no effect on Kaguya ultimately so it was actually kind of pointless. So, yeah, another shitty chapter.

One Piece chapter 751 - I actually enjoyed the battle between Sabo and Fujitora and the comedy in this chapter was pretty good too. I'm surprised Doflamingo has lured them into a trap and confronted them this early, since I think there'd be a while before they came face to face with him again. With Law still in sea stone handcuffs it looks like they are pretty screwed, unless Robin can get the key to them in time. I'm still confused as to when we are going to learn Law's backstory, because I thought that was being setup two chapters ago. I guess it'll happen eventually.

Peephole chapter 29 - Miyachi just punching Fujiora every time she tried to talk was gloriously hilarious. It looks like she wants Kurosou to do the honors and kill her. Will he cross that line? I wish the chapter wasn't so short so I could find out, but I suppose I can wait until next week to see.

The Seven Deadly Sins chapters 81.5-83 - In chapter 81.5 we learn that Arthur originally had just the ambition of becoming a Holy Knight, but the King of Liones saw his potential early on in a chance encounter, and told him he was destined to become a king and took him under his wing. This is Arthur's motivation for coming to Liones now to help save the King. In chapter 82 we learn that all this time all of Gilthunder's actions were being monitored by a chimera demon under Hendrickson's command, and he was forced to go along with his schemes to protect Margaret's life. Meliodas learned this long ago in their first re-encounter, deciphering a special phrase Gilthunder said that was significant to the bond between them, and this is how Meliodas knew Gilthunder was in trouble and what to do in order to help him out. With the chimera destroyed, Gilthunder let loose all his built up rage against Hendrickson, brutally impaling him, ending the battle. The group, now united, heads to rescue Elizabeth, but the mysterious witch allied with Hendrickson tries to stop them through teleportation magic. However, to everyone's shock, she is out-done by this very spell cast in rapid succession by the mysterious cloaked magician that was accompanying Arthur. And of course, who should it be but the Crimson Pig of the Seven Deadly Sins, Merlin herself. Called it! I mean, it wasn't hard. What is a King Arthur without a Merlin and whatnot. Admittedly there were times I thought the masked magician was going to be Merlin instead, so I'll give Suzuki credit for having me going for a while there. Anyway, the King says he predicted that a crimson pig would rescue him, and it's clear he's really referring to Merlin, so that'll happen. I still doubt Hendrickson's scheme has been foiled yet, or that he's out of the fight. He's been the big bad this whole time so while it was satisfying seeing Gilthunder fuck him up it would be odd for his scheme to fall apart before it's truly begun. Hopefully we'll have a better idea of the direction where this is going next week.

Shokugeki no Soma chapter 75 - Hayama's burger was carefully crafted to elicit the strongest sense of aroma and flavor from the meat, and as a result, his burger was a far more pleasurable, and addicting experience than Arata's lovely but comparatively tame turtle burger. As Hayama states, it was only natural for the one aiming to be number one to outdo someone content to be second best. I wonder if this experience will make Arata want to step out from Erina's shadow and evolve her skills to a level rivaling hers. In any case, Hayama's sense of flavor is formidable and no doubt Soma will have difficulty rivaling it in their inevitable rematch. First this round must end, though, and Takumi has to take on the suspicious Mimasaka. I don't know why he's decided to insult Takumi's brother in front of him. Perhaps getting him riled up will cause him to bring out his full potential, and thus ensure a more exciting match? Mimasaka came out of nowhere, and the narrative odds are that he'll likely defeat Takumi and move on. However, this match could go either way and it'll be interesting to see which that is next week.

Silver Spoon chapter 103 - Hachiken and Okawa decide to take the first steps in getting their company running themselves, self-investing in their company with their own money. They'll get their business moving thanks to Okawa's reputation that he left thanks to his part-time work and get some sales moving. Once they've established a strong sales base they'll take their business card, product, and sales record to Hachiken's father, and earn his investment having proved to him he's become a productive, legitimate member of society. Damn, Okawa has some great ideas sometimes! Hachiken isn't going to have it any easier now that he has to raise money himself with part time-jobs, but given how dedicated he is, he'll pull it off. The second half of this chapter was even more wonderful. Komaba's mother has become a staff member of the Dairy Farm Helper Association, and now can start earning money herself again. Komaba, or course, still thinks that he needs to work full-time in order to help them out of debt, but his mother rightly states that he needs to stop being so full of himself and work towards his dream. And Komaba, finally, has decided to do what he really wants to do, and the first step is to finally see "what's over the mountain." And that baseball game, seeing Uryu pull out all the stops, no doubt determined to avenge his mistake from last year that caused Komaba to have to leave the team and school, damn did it leave a feeling of passion and hope for Komaba's future. Will he be able to find a way to achieve his dream and get his own farm? As this series has established, it's a harsh world out there, but I have a feeling he can pull it off.

Stealth Symphony chapter 17 - Dragons come from the moon and are preparing to invade the earth and Jig is still insane. Also, it looks like Troma's dedication to professionalism will cost him when Slice goes to kill Alice and he inevitably re-encounters Jig. The series is playing out all of it's cards so quickly, that I kind of feel it has to be ending. But the Weekly Manga Recap guys said that it's cancellation is not a sure bet at this point, so I have no clue how much can be left or where the story could go from this point. Certainly, though, these rapid plot developments are very interesting, and whatever happens it's sure to be bat-shit insane, so that'll be fun.

Toriko chapter 282 - Toriko and co. team up with the three beast warriors plus Mappy to search for Air. Zebra and Buranchi have to brave a terrain pelted by Meteor Rain, Sunny and Nosh have to deal with Laser Rain, Coco and Dinner seem to have it easiest with Poison Rain, and Toriko, Komatsu, and Mappy have to deal with the most dangerous, terrifying terrain of the lot - the nest of the Horse King Heracles. In order to travel through anywhere in the Gourmet World one must ask the permission of the continent's ruler first. Mappy is prepared to give his life in order to make this happen, but will it be enough? In addition to being kickass this chapter was full of hilarious parts and is through and through classic Toriko insanity. But I expect no less every week. I can't wait until the next.

Rankings:

1. Silver Spoon - 10/10
2. Toriko - 9/10
3. The Seven Deadly Sins - 9/10
4. Hunter X Hunter - 9/10
5. Shokugeki no Soma - 9/10
6. Peephole - 9/10
7. One Piece - 8/10
8. Magi - 7/10
9. Stealth Symphony - 7/10
10. Bleach - 5/10
11. Naruto - 1/10

Some really great chapters this week. Shit is going down in Seven Deadly Sins and Toriko, and great developments have happened in Silver Spoon and HXH. Exciting highly entertaining reading that really made my week, and I hope next week can be just as strong.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Nel_Annette on June 29, 2014, 12:37:58 AM
I know I'm late to the party, but I forget that we have a manga board separate from the anime board.

I fucking hate what they've done with Naruto. I know most people declared it shit weeeellllll over a year ago, but I was still an avid reader. My suspension of disbelief only goes so far though. I tried to be open minded. I can accept Obito as the main villain, I can accept Kabuto being the co-Big Bad, I can accept Madara using some bullshit gambit to come back to life, because hey, I actually quite like him as a villain. He's an asshole that's fun to watch.

But Kaguya? Ugh. Fuck Kaguya. Constantly going "but wait, here's the real bad guy!" gets real old real quick. There was not enough build-up to her and her stupid white Zetsu army plan for me. At this point, both of the dudes who initiated this big-ass battle are on the good guys' side now. Fucking ridiculous. I am sincerely hoping that Madara fights his way out of that thing, or Orochimaru does some bullshit to take this thing by the reigns, because this was such a terrible, unceremonious killing of a major villain, and an awful trade for a new villain as well. Not to mention all this reincarnation bullshit and Black Zetsu shaping everything. This soured everything for me.

(And I just don't like when arcs are dragged out this long. I get that this is the final battle, but come on, Kishi. Let's end this already.)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 30, 2014, 05:10:03 PM
Y'know, I was excited for the Assassination Classroom anime...until I found out who was working on it. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/06/29/key-visual-for-assassination-classroom-tv-anime-unveiled)

Why can't good WSJ manga get good anime adaptions these days, seriously.  :imnothappy:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 05, 2014, 04:01:25 PM
This was a really good week!

Assassination Classroom chapter 92 - Class E's tactics have been able to deter off the superior strength of Class A by using their versatility and exploiting the details of the rules of the game to their advantage. Much like the baseball game, they are overcoming a situation where they can't win in a straightforward fashion by using their skill set and the element of surprise to the best of their capabilities, and it's working well for them and entertaining to watch. And it seems that they are winning over their peers in other classes through their perseverance. Perhaps Class E won't be the black sheep for much longer. Of course, this game isn't over yet, and knowing Asano, he probably has other tricks up their sleeve.

Bleach chapter 587 - Comedy relief chapter. Really? C'mon, they really should be taking the fact Uryu has joined the Vanderich more seriously. Mohawk dude is pissed at Renji now I guess and has attacked him with some flame sword thing, and Juha Bach and Uryu have arrived at the Soul King's Palace. I guess that means Squad Zero will actually fight them? Probably, and they'll likely get curbstomped so Ichigo can bail them out or something. I guess we'll see how this goes next week.

Detective Conan chapter 900 - Chapter 900! Only a 100 chapters away from 1000, and this series is sure to reach that point. This chapter wasn't very eventful for a milestone like this, but it was solidly entertaining with good humor and entertaining mystery solving, and that's all I expect from the series. It seems that Conan has uncovered where Yumi is, but it's in a very dangerous place. I'm curious to see exactly where that is.

Kuroko no Basket chapter 267 - Akashi has returned to his old self and plays (gasp) as a actual team player? Who wudda thunk it? And by doing so, he's able to give his fellow Rakuzan players self-confidence again, and return momentum to Rakuzan's side. Ultimately, this has the effect of getting every player on the Rakuzan team into the zone. With only three minutes left and down by a five point lead, it seems like Seirin is totally screwed. This was a pretty decent chapter. I don't feel the tension in this match at all, but this is a solid story development. Of course, the series can fuck this up and make me hate the match again depending on how they have Seirin respond to this, but for now I think I can say I liked this chapter.

Magi: Adventure of Sinbad chapter 28 - 9 pages? C'mon, this was too short. Anyway, Sinbad uses Valefor's power for the first time, the members of the organization Jafar belongs to retreats when Hinahoho's father and the other Imuchuk warriors appear and drive them out, and it seems Drakon isn't willing yet to join Sinbad's group. Understandable, since though his brother tried to kill him and everything, his priority is clearly going to be trying to rescue the princess from him. I wish there was more content in this update, but this was some good stuff and I'll be interested in knowing where the story will be heading from this point.

Naruto chapter 683 - Naruto brought Obito back to life. HE BROUGHT SOMEONE BACK TO LIFE. Goddamit Kishimoto, this messianic crap has gone too far. Anyway, the Hokages are probably going to re-joining the battle soon since they've summoned the Sage of Six Paths from the lower half of Madara's carcass (somehow), and Obito plans to sacrifice his life in order to help take down Kaguya. It's his fucking fault this is even happening Naruto, you dipshit, don't freaking thank him! God, reading this series has become almost a surreal experience just because of how bizarre and unnatural the story developments have turned out. If the end wasn't nigh you can bet I would have quit this series for good like Fairy Tail, which, by the way, I've skimmed the latest chapters, and is stupider than ever, so I made a good call there.

One Piece chapter 752 - So...the whole stuff with Doflamingo in the beginning was kinda pointless. A bunch of other stuff is shown happening but none of it is particularly interesting and then the chapter ends with Dolfamingo reflecting on the first time he met Law. Finally, his backstory! Law's effort to take down Dolfamingo has been one of the more entertaining elements of this arc, so his backstory interests me. Hopefully it won't disappoint.

One-Punch Man chapter 48 - Oh shit, this was awesome. I love it when Murata does entire chapters that are like keys in an animation. And Saitama's "Super Serious Serious Strike" did not disappoint. Boros sure ain't walking that one off! Excellent OPM goodness.

Peephole chapter 30 - Miyachi's crazy rant is glorious as it is creepy. But what did Kurosu want? He must have wanted her to die, he must have thought about killing her, but of course, when he is given the opportunity, he can't do it himself, so was the point of bringing her to Miyachi's apartment done on the subconcious expectation that she'd take care of his problem for him by killing her? Looks like Miyachi's influence is rubbing off on Kurosu more than he would like. Moreover, the policewoman has arrived and has arrested Fujiura. But Miyachi wants to kill Fujiura! Will she just kill the policewoman to get to her prey, or will she let this one go? Whatever happens, one thing's for sure. Kurosu is pretty dang screwed.

The Seven Deadly Sins chapter 84 - Merlin easily destroying Vivian's barrier with a negation spell as she opened the door to the King's Chamber was hilarious. It's game over for Dreyfus, now that everyone knows he was behind the death of Zaratras,  framed the Sins, and took over the kingdom. Now he's lost everything, except, to his tearful joy, his son, who is still alive (though who knows where). It seems all's well that ends well, but as I suspected, Hendrickson is not down for the count, and now he's got a radical new look out of nowhere! What could this mean? I'm pretty excited to find out. This was a great, well-paced chapter, and I'm looking forward to seeing the next stage of this arc now that Hendrickson's gearing up for a party of hell. 

Shokugeki no Soma chapter 76 - Takumi has challenged Mimasaka to a shokugeki in their match. On the line, the Aldini brothers' precious mezzaluna knife. Mimasaka is a cook only concerned about beating other with his skills. He has won 99 shokugeki's, taking away the most precious utensils from his opponents as his prize while laughing them right in their faces as he's doing so. Now, obviously, genre cliches kind of make it obvious that Mimasaka won't likely win this match, but this tension makes this match more interesting. The theme of their match is a lemon-based desert, and I dunno about Takumi, but his skillset seems to shine mostly in italian cuisine, but Mimasaka has no specialties, and that versatility will likely help him make a great dish out of the ingredients. Of course, Takumi is skilled, and I'm interested in seeing what kind of dish he'll think up.

Shonan Seven chapter 1 - A new manga by Tohru Fujisawa that isn't a lame GTO spinoff? HOW IS THIS POSSIBLE. Anyway, this first chapter didn't do anything that notable, but it shows promise and the series' premise question of "what does it mean to be a badass" could make for an interesting story if executed right. At any rate I already like it more than GTO: Paradise Lost, so it's got that going for it.

Silver Spoon chapter 104 - Oh man, that free-range pig farm looks delightful, but I can see how troublesome it would be to maintain, considering you have to change the terrain every so often. That's something Hachiken and Okawa haven't thought about. They don't want to render the Mikage farm's land a heap of dirt, after all. But it seems Hachiken has finally decided what he wants to do with the pork - make pizza. We don't get more details outside of that, but he's got a plan and I'm sure we'll see it soon enough. In the meantime, we see the seasons change as life moves forward and everyone makes a little bit of progress in their goals, and ultimately the chapter ends with Hachiken and Okawa's pig giving birth to a litter of piglets. Also, Hachiken's father reflects on how hard Hachiken must be working in order to self-finance his company and, GASP, smiles. IT'S THE END OF THE WORLD RUN FOR YOUR LIVES WAHHHHHHH...no, but, seriously, it's a pretty big deal that Hachiken's father is finally impressed by something his son is doing. Now, unlike others, I don't fear the manga is ending anytime soon. I think there is way too much story and opportunities to take this story for that to happen in the next year. But certainly, a new chapter in Hachiken's life is about to open, one that I am highly excited to see unfold.

Stealth Symphony chapter 18 - Oh god, Jig has fucked Troma up. Last chapter wasn't kidding when it said he was going to pay the price for his neutrality. And with him in that state Alice is vulnerable to Slice's revenge. And the dragons are coming, so the city is pretty screwed as well. This was a pretty cool chapter overall, and since it's pretty obvious the series will be ending soon enough, I wonder where this will inevitably lead.

Toriko chapter 283 - Mappy has prepared to give up his life in order to become fertilizer for the Air trees. The Horse King Heracles does not need to eat, it only needs to breathe, and can survive on a single breath for an entire year. But one breath for it takes the same amount of air that can be found in the pacific ocean, and when it's about to give birth, it needs much more air than that in order to give birth to a strong, healthy foal. That air can be provided from the fruit of the great air tree, but the Nitro have stolen the capabilities to harvest them, leaving not only Heracles, but other Phantom Beast Heracs unable to get the air they need to grow to their full capabilities. Komatsu seems to have heard the voice of Heracles' air tree, though, and might be able to remedy the problem somehow. However, Heracles seems none too pleased at the sight of Komatsu's knife, which was made from the bone of another great beast. All in all, just another really awesome chapter of Toriko.

Rankings:

1. One-Punch Man - 10/10
2. Silver Spoon - 10/10
3. Toriko - 10/10
4. The Seven Deadly Sins - 9/10
5. Peephole - 9/10
6. Shokugeki no Soma - 8/10
7. Detective Conan - 8/10
8. Assassination Classroom - 8/10
9. Kuroko no Basket - 8/10
10. Magi: Adventure of Sinbad - 8/10
11. Stealth Symphony - 8/10
12. Shonan Seven - 7/10
13. One Piece - 6/10
14. Bleach - 3/10
15. Naruto - 1/10

Lots of chapters to read this week, but nearly all of them were enjoyable, and I'm happy about that. Lots of things to look forward to next week as well, so hopefully that'll be just as good a week as well.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 08, 2014, 02:30:08 PM
Kodansha is holding a contest for Vinland Saga, the winners of which will win a piece of original artwork signed by Yukimura himself! (http://kodanshacomics.com)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 13, 2014, 01:25:29 AM
I caught up with a few more currently-running manga this week: A Silent Voice, A Bride's Story, The Heroic Legend of Arslan, and Orange. The first two are excellent, while Arslan and Orange are just decent, but I will talk about new chapters for all of them from now on as well.

A Bride's Story chapter 39 - Love at first sight? Lol, probably not, but Anis really seems smitten with Sirin just a bit too much. It's nice that's she's made a friend, though, especially one that's more down to earth and can probably teach her more about the world around her, which, being as sheltered as she is, would be helpful to her. But it seems her husband is getting a bit worried about her frequent visits to the public baths, and might forbid her to go anymore at some point. I wonder how Smith and Abli will factor into this story. They were mostly in the background during the twins arc, but Smith seems to be developing a friendship with Anis' husband and so he might have a much bigger role in this arc. In any case, it's clear this arc is about loneliness and friendship, two themes that haven't been explored yet in this travelogue. Wherever this arc is going should be more apparent next chapter, but not knowing where one of the bride's stories is going is one of Bride's Story's best qualities, and I look forward to seeing how this one ties into the narrative as a whole.

A Silent Voice chapter 44 - Holy fucking shit. This chapter was...wow. Right off this was incredibly potent and emotional stuff when Mrs. Nishimiya bows down to apologize to Shoya's mom for what happened to him. The look on her face pretty much says it all at just how ashamed and guilty she feels that he got hurt trying to save her daughter from committing suicide. God, this has got to be the most vulnerable she's ever been at this point, and it really shows. Moving on, Yuzuru bumping into Sahara and Nagatsuka, who've come to see Shoya, was a short, but nice scene. Shoya thought that he had lost his friends for good, but it's clear to see that these two still care a lot about him and, while they still are uncomfortable about what happened before, they are still there for him at this critical time. And then we get to Ueno and Shoko....holy shit is Ueno a fucking horrible person. She doesn't give a damn about what Shoko might be feeling right now, or how she's ever felt, being a deaf girl trying to fit in and constantly bullied. She beats her up, pulls her hair, and mocks the heartfelt letter she wrote to her where she explains just why she acts the way she does and that she does it for her sister's sake...right in front of Yuzuru, who must feel incredibly guilty about everything going on right now as well. And Shoko just takes the beatings and insults. Hell, she probably feels she deserves it. It's all so goddamn sad. So when Mrs. Nishimiya slaps Ueno right at the end of the chapter it was incredibly satisfying. Mrs. Nishimiya, to this point, has tried to protect her daughter by letting her fight her own battles and moving her from place to place when things don't work out. For her to lose her cool and slap a teenager is an incredibly aggressive and violent action from her (though it's more than justified...I mean, Ueno was beating Shoko half to death...). This chapter was just excellent on so many emotional levels. I've already re-read this one about 5 times already now because it's really that strong of stuff. I'm glad I finally tried and caught up with this series. I look forward to how this situation develops in the next chapter. I really want to see Shoko come to grips with what's happened especially. If there's one thing Ueno said that was true, it's that the poor girl needs to realize there are people who truly care about her and want her around.

Attack on Titan chapter 59 - Why did they make guns to use with the 3D maneuver gear, when it would be useless on Titans, but effective for killing other survey corps member? Exactly what is the point of making weapons to kill people on your side? That's definitely a mystery that I'm curious to find out. Armin feeling disturbed at having killed another human being was actually pretty well-done. The main focus of this chapter seemed to be on Jean figuring out his own way of doing what he believes is right, while accepting Levi's own strategies as well. It's felt a bit easy that those two Interior Brigade members went to their side, but it's not an implausible development and it was a good moment for Jean in any case. Frankly, I keep forgetting who Jean is most of the time so this chapter actually helped make his character more understandable and memorable to me. It looks like Levi's group is now prepared to rescue Eren and Historia, but of course there was that whole twist with Historia's father apologizing to her a chapter or two ago, so maybe they aren't in need of rescue or there's something bigger going on with this Reiss family conspiracy deal. Next chapter should be interesting, to say the least.

Attack on Titan: Before the Fall chapter 7 - This chapter was mostly Kyukuro and company running away and trying to combat the titans...which is something I've seen plenty enough of in the main series proper and thus was not really interested in reading. And that's really all there is to this chapter, running and fighting. It's a decent read, but this spinoff's strength is more in it's character development rather than it's action. I think next chapter, when Kyukuro probably defeats a titan and gains the trust and respect of the Survey Corp, will be more interesting. As it is, though, this wasn't a bad chapter.

Bleach chapter 588 - I still don't remember any of the Squad Zero members' names, but half this chapter is basically ducktail guy attacking Juha Bach. Yeah...I'm pretty sure that basically all of Squad Zero is going to fight and lose to Juha Bach, Uryu, and Haschwald before Ichigo arrives/intervenes, a la basically what happened to all the Soul Reapers in the Aizen fight. That just seems like a Kubo thing to do. Speaking of Kubo things to do, he pulls a twist out of nowhere by having Zombie Girl turn out to actually be a BOY!....for no reason. Also, how can Yumichika "smell the semen" on him? What does that even mean? But weird non-sensical dialogue is a pretty Kubo thing to do, so I shouldn't be surprised. I mean, earlier in the chapter Juha Bach did berate Haschwald for "showing emotion" after all. Anyway, Bambietta's back and a zombie now, so at least we finally know what the Sternritter quartet did with her. I thought for sure that was going to be a "two hanging corpses in Hueco Mundo" kind of deal. Actually, I kinda guessed it the minute Zombie Girl showed off her ability. It seemed obvious in the same way Uryu siding with the Quincies was earlier in the arc. So I guess Ikkaku and Yumichika are going to be fighting them now...which I of course don't care about but I do sorta of like Ikkaku and Yumichika for shallow reasons so at least this will be more entertaining to me than, say, a Histsugaya or Renji fight. "More entertaining" being a strictly relative term, of course. It still won't be actually entertaining.

GTO: Paradise Lost chapter 7 - Not only has Crunchyroll announced that they will be streaming the GTO anime, but they've picked up Paradise Lost for their manga section and will be simulpublishing new chapters! Ya....oh wait I forgot for a sec Paradise Lost has thus far been incredibly lame. This chapter is a good example of how this series is just going through the motions of the GTO formula, but completely lacking in the heart or comic energy of the original series. I'm going to wait out this first arc at least before I decide to drop it, but right now, this continues to be another thoroughly uninspired GTO spinoff.

The Heroic Legend of Arslan chapter 13 - This series has been hit and miss for me so far. I am genuinely interested in a couple of the characters, like Narsus and Gieve in particular, but much of the story has a whole has had it's dull stretches and catching up to this was a bit more tedious than I hoped. However, this chapter moved pretty quickly and a lot happened, from Pharangese and Gieve joining Arslan's group to Arslan and Daryoon finally confronting Kharlan in what should be a entertaining battle in the next chapter. I'd like to think that with Arslan's band now rounded out and the traitor finally being confronted the series will get more interesting and fun to read in the future, so I hope that'll prove to be true.

Hunter X Hunter chapter 346 - Thanks to Kurapika's efforts Pariston's scheme to get his assassins to infiltrate the Hunter's Association through the Hunter Exam failed. And we learn more about what kinds of Hunters the Zodiacs are and what their roles will be during the expedition. Ging has also won over Beyond's group in a month's time, and even Pariston sticks up for him when his assassins try to get Ging to leave the group. Honestly, this was kind of another expository chapter, and it didn't feel like too much of importance happened. These assassin guys are not really important and while a fight between them and Ging and Pariston might be cool I don't think it's really necessary. To this point quite a bit has actually happened in just six chapters since the series has come back, but I'd like for them to start the voyage to the Dark Continent sometime soon and get the story rolling., at least by the end of the summer, at least.

Kuroko no Basket chapters 268-269 - I finished reading Slam Dunk last week. I had already been spoiled at what the outcome of the match between Shohoku and Sannoh would be and the ending of the series, but that did not in any way lessen the sheer excitement and intensity of that match for me. I was on the edge of my seat for every play during that match and thoroughly invested in everything the characters were going through. I felt the tension, I got worried for Shohoku, forgetting that I knew they would win in the end, and felt elation when they things looked bright for them. From beginning to end it was an enthralling match and culminated in a glorious, satisfying, and emotionally rewarding payoff.

It might be unfair to compare this match in Kuroko to that, but really, this match should be KnB's version of that legendary match in terms of it's raw intensity, as it is the climactic match that has been built up for ages now and what the series has been working toward all this time. But while the last few chapters have been decent reads, as a whole, this match has been tedious, unfocused, and downright obnoxious at several points, and worse still, completely lacking emotionally. There was so much going on in that final match in SD as far as each player's character arc as well as their evolution as a team, and this match should be just as strong, since there were several components set up for this. Yet, for a match where it should feel that Seirin is giving their all and have a lot riding on it, all that has been swept under the rug to focus on unimportant aspects, only occasionally seeping through to wind down without satisfactory payoff. This doesn't feel like a big, climactic showdown. It feels like yet another match of the series, but completely tension less. So I read this chapter, see Seirin is desperate because EVERY PLAYER ON THE RAKUZAN TEAM IS IN THE ZONE (well, they try to mitigate this by saying they are only "half-in the zone"...which is a shitty explanation), and there are only two minutes left, and they are all completely, utterly exhausted...and then I feel I should care...but I can't bring myself too. And then in the next chapter, Kuroko's old childhood friend arrives and cheers him on, and then every other team Seirin has played against start doing the same and the entire stadium is filled with supportive cheers for Seirin and this should be a moment of hope and appeal to my emotional connection to their plight...but I still can't care.

Worse, the solution presented at the end of the chapter is for Kagami to try and active the second level of the zone. This damn thing really is a power-up, and sorry to say, but I feel this series really is basically a superpower sports manga at this point. It might not be a Prince of Tennis' level of absurdity yet, but once this second door thing happens, and no doubt it will happen, there's no turning back from that path. But the real problem here is that I should be feeling what I felt when I was reading the Shohoku vs. Sannoh match. This match should have been satisfying on many levels and I should have felt worried for Seirin when they were at their low points and gleeful at their highs. Chapter 269 should have been a very powerful, emotionally fulfilling event. But, all this time I've just found this tedious and almost every emotion has rung hollow to me. There were some bright spots here and there, but in comparison to just about any match in Slam Dunk and even early in this series it's been a joke. It is, easily, the worst match thus far in the series and not even Akashi dropping his asshole personality in the recent chapters can change my stance on that. And after seeing how great that final match in SD was, and how that series never, ever resorted to the kinds of gimmicks KnB uses in order to raise tension, I've come to dislike this match even more. As chapters, these two weren't by any means bad, but this match as a whole still is, and I can't help but be disappointed by that.

Magi chapter 231 - I don't really have much I feel like talking about in this chapter, but I quite liked it. Probably what's going to happen is that Il Illah will bestow upon Solomon some grand powers, and then Ugo, Sheba, and Arba will become the first three Magi.

Naruto chapter 684 - So Kaguya wasn't fighting with the intent to kill Naruto this whole time? That at least explains why she hasn't been able to crush him and Sasuke easily, since with her power they shouldn't even be a match for her. It's pretty obvious she didn't kill the original Naruto. The shadow clones still being in effect is proof enough of that. It seems the original is not in Kaguya's dimension, so it seems Obito and Sakura are planning to do something while Kaguya and Zetsu are taken aback by the fact the shadow clones are still there. Well, whatever they do it better work, but this is Sakura we're talking about...

Peephole chapter 31 - Well, it looks like Kurosu sure dodged a bullet there. Miyachi's boxing explanation for why Fujiura was so beat up was hilarious. It seems like Miyachi really wanted Kurosu to kill Fujiura, as some sort of weird development for their relationship. They've sure got one heck of a messed up romance. But wow, who the hell brutally murdered Fujiura like that when she should have been in Detective Schneider's custody? Could it have been a rival killer? But if so, how did he/she break into the Police Station and commit such a bloody deed so quickly and without notice. Hmm...

The Seven Deadly Sins chapter 85 - It looks like Merlin won't be rejoining the Sins after all, but she and Arthur will surely return later on in the story. They probably shouldn't have left so quickly, though, since Hendrickson is ready for round 2 and has caused a reaction in the demon blood in the new generation Holy Knights, which looks like some fatal news for Geera and Jericho. An interesting development, and one I wonder how the Sins will be able to resolve. Hendrickson just might accomplish his goal and revive the demon clan if these demon-transformed humans aren't stopped/saved in time. You know, perhaps he's been a demon all along. Sure would explain a few things.

Shokugeki no Soma chapter 77 - So Mimasaka is a copy-cat chef. He thoroughly researches his opponents and their dishes beforehand and how they make their dishes, and goes one step beyond, improving upon their dishes and out-performing them. Every step and ingredient Takumi's planned to use has been predicted by Mimasaka, leaving Takumi in a tight spot. However, Takumi is pretty ingenuity, and even though time is short, he should be able to tweek his dish in a way Mimasaka couldn't expect, and I'll be interested in seeing exactly how next chapter.

Stealth Symphony chapter 19 - It looks like this series will end next week. It's a shame, since this really did have a lot of potential in it's premise, but it's been ranking in the bottom of Jump ranking every week so it was only a matter of time. There's really not too much I want to say about this chapter myself. Toroma has suffered the consequences of his neutrality with both personal damage and losing a friend's life, that being Jig's, who has been mercilessly killed off in a pretty shocking fashion. There's only one chapter left, and with Jig dead, most of the plot points have been (albeit hastily) resolved. It's a pretty dark resolution, but probably the best Narita could do on short notice, and I get that. Well, I guess he'll be sticking with making light novels and not more manga anytime soon. A shame, really.

Toriko chapter 284 - Komatsu has heard the voice of "Air," and might be able to prepare it! However, the Horse King Heracles will not let anyone anyone touch "Air," and sure is hell won't permit anyone cross his continent without making a sacrifice first. But Komatsu needs Mappy and Kareru in order to get to "Air," and Toriko sure isn't willing to die yet. But his opponent this time is one of the Eight Beast Kings, the strongest creatures in the Gourmet World. Toriko doesn't even think he could last even five minutes, and that's a generous estimate at best. But it's sure to make for one hell of a battle to come next week, and I, for one, can't wait to read it.

Vinland Saga chapter 105 - Thorfinn's peaceful, non-violent approach to things makes him a different man from most other Vikings in that he has a different outlook on things and different values as well. Certainly Haalfdan didn't expect anyone would so easily, and unhesitatingly agree to lick his boots just for supplies. But for Thorfinn such pride is a frivolous thing and he has priorities he's cares far more about; as he says, licking a few boots or eating horse shit is a cheap price to pay if they can get what they need to colonize Vinland. It seems that Haalfdan is testing Thorfinn with the Narwhal horns. It's apparently not easy to hunt Narhwals, but he could make could good money off them, enough to help get the supplies they need. I'm sure Thorfinn is up to the challenge, and I look forward to seeing just how hard the job will be come next chapter.

Rankings:

1. A Silent Voice - 10/10
2. A Bride's Story - 9/10
3. Vinland Saga - 9/10
4. Toriko - 9/10
5. The Seven Deadly Sins - 9/10
6. Attack on Titan - 8/10
7. Shokugeki no Soma - 8/10
8. Peephole - 8/10
9. Hunter X Hunter - 8/10
10. Magi - 8/10
11. Kuroko no Basket - 7/10
12. Stealth Symphony - 7/10
13. The Heroic Legend of Arslan - 7/10
14. Attack on Titan: Before the Fall - 7/10
15. Bleach - 5/10
16. GTO: Paradise Lost - 4/10
17. Naruto - 3/10

Most of the chapters this week were quite good, with the top 5 being really, really good. I was harsh on Kuroko in my overview because of how bad this match as a whole has been, but the recent  chapters themselves were decent for what could be done at this point and I did honestly enjoy them more than a few other new chapters which I wouldn't give below a "7," so by default I had to give it a "7" this week as well. I really am thoroughly disappointed with the series at this point, though. Oh well.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 13, 2014, 08:41:06 AM
I still haven't caught up with Kuroko (I'm just waiting for the series to finish at this point, or at least the match itself, before I read it), but from what I've seen, your opinion isn't alone. I've seen others compare it to the final match of Slam Dunk, and say that it's laughably bad in comparison. What worked in SD's final match is that you really grew to care about the characters and their own individual story arcs so much by that point in time. Their match with Sannoh was so intense because you really wanted to see them pull through, and when Sannoh had over a 20 point lead on them, you couldn't help but feel hopeless for a bit, yet the way Shouhoku turned it around by the end was both captivating and actually even believable. They earned their cheers from the crowd by the end of it. The characters might be simplistic, but Inoue Takehiko is a mangaka who knows people, and knows how to make his characters endearing people that you care about (something that he brought to a whole new level in REAL). Even when Kuroko no Basket was on its good games, I never really felt that connection to the characters like I did with Slam Dunk, which is why, even if it had stayed consistent in quality, it would never be a favorite of mine.

Also, that last shot was excellent. No dialogue or anything. Just pure intensity and heart. That last scene with Rukawa passing the ball to Sakuragi will forever be remembered as a classic. The 2 guys who couldn't stand each other the most finally acknowledged each other as teammates, and Rukawa finally trusted Sakuragi as a player, not with just any shot, but the most important shot of the match. It's a scene that worked so well because of all of the shaky history established between the two characters over the course of the entire series. Kuroko, IMO, doesn't have anything like that, and thus relies on power-up techniques to make matches and scenes interesting. Were this a manga that didn't take itself completely seriously like Eyeshield 21, that could actually work. But, unlike that much better series, it does take itself as seriously as Slam Dunk, so it just becomes an utter joke of itself without even realizing it.

All this talk reminds me that I really need to pick up Vagabond again. I never got far in it, so I'll just start it from scratch, but it's very possible that Takehiko may just be one of my favorite mangaka ever.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 13, 2014, 09:30:04 AM
Yeah, I loved that last shot as well for the same reasons. It was the culmination of a rivalry that had lasted the entire series, resolved in a single moment of unwavering trust and respect. It's easy to see why that match is considered "legendary" and one of the most iconic moments in manga period. It easily became one of my top favorite scenes in manga.

And yeah, Kuroko has yet to make me invested in the characters as strongly, much less pull of an emotionally-charged moment nearly as well as SD. Even though I felt Miyagi and Rukawa didn't have enough character development at times, I still cared a lot about them in the games, which is more than I can say for any other characters at this point in KnB. And I actually wouldn't really call SD a "top favorite" of mine, but I really was invested in it's characters and story considerably and the final game was genuinely a page-turning and captivating experience for me.  KnB has yet to impress or endear me as strongly as SD did, and while I really did enjoy up until the rematch with To'oh, I can't say I'd consider myself a "fan" of it anymore, given how the series has been this match, and really, ever since the rematch with To'oh.

Whoever said Kuroko was the best currently running series in Jump is just flat-out wrong, sorry.

Anyway, Takehiko Inoue really is a great mangaka. I need to read and catch up to Vagabond sometime soon.



Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 13, 2014, 09:42:41 AM
Desensitized, you just got your ass dissed. :humhumhum:

To be fair, I did like the re-match with Kaijou (where they didn't use any of that "Zone BS at all"), and the flash-back arc was OK, but the bottom line is that, even at its best, I was never in love with the series. I think it's a good manga in its own right (keep in mind that I still haven't read up to date yet), but comes off as just an OK one when compared to the best sports manga out there.

For some reason, though, this is currently more popular than SD with American fans, but that may only be because it's still a currently running series. I think people will kind of forget about it a few years after it finally wraps up.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 13, 2014, 09:53:35 AM
Yeah, there are quite a few people I've seen who genuinely prefer Kuroko to Slam Dunk. There are also a lot of people who have read Kuroko but not Slam Dunk, because Kuroko is a newer and much-talked about series. I'd say the series will be remembered about as much as Prince of Tennis is when it ends, expect maybe a fair more favorably.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 14, 2014, 11:58:06 AM
My first Monster Perfect Edition is shipping tomorrow. Can't wait for a re-read of that.

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 13, 2014, 09:42:41 AM
Desensitized, you just got your ass dissed. :humhumhum:
Wouldn't be the first time, especially from Cartoon X. I haven't read the manga since the last match began so I have no comment on it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 15, 2014, 04:36:05 PM
I just found out that A Silent Voice is actually supposed to end soon. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-03-15/a-silent-voice-koe-no-katachi-manga-to-end-in-3-more-volumes) I mean, considering recent developments in the story, I shouldn't be surprised, but since I only just read and caught up to it last week, I'm rather sad to see it will be ending shortly. Of course, the plus side to this is that now I'm sure the series will have told a concise, well-told and quality story beginning to end. I definitely wish I could enjoy it just a bit longer, but the author had a purpose in creating this story and is choosing to end it in the way she thinks is best, despite it's popularity, and I totally respect that. And of course, there's still probably around 15 or so chapters left, so I'll still be able to look forward to new chapters for at least another three months. Hopefully they'll all be great chapters, and this series ends as strong as I'm hoping.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 20, 2014, 02:25:20 AM
So...DCTP received a cease and desist letter from Viz, and so they will no longer be translating the latest Detective Conan chapters. While I fully respect Viz and their commitment to releasing the series stateside, this news does sadden me, because the english releases of the manga are over 30 volumes behind where the series is at in Japan, and at the rate the series is being released, we're not likely to get caught up anytime soon. I'm bummed that it'll take a long, long time before I'm able to read more of the story, but it can't be helped unless another scanalation group picks up the series. I guess I can still watch the anime though, which, speaking of, I'd really like to watch legally too (make it happen, Crunchyroll!)

Anyway, manga:

A Silent Voice chapter 45 - Oh wow, Ueno actually felt guilt and regret for her actions. Not only that, but Sahara is still her friend after all of this. I feel that Ueno, selfish and despicable as she can be, does truly want to become a better person, but she's quick to anger and hurting others to relieve her own pain. I hope we see her change her ways before the series is over. But damn, the second half of this chapter, Yuzuru and Mrs. Nishimiya taking down the pictures...reflecting on all that's happened, what they did do, what could have been done, and Shoko coming in and the whole family bursting out in tears...that was a really powerful moment. It seems Shoko now has conviction in her eyes. She's done feeling sorry for herself, and thinking she's a burden. She's going to make things right again. I can't wait to see how.

Assassination Classroom chapter 93 - Heh heh, Class E's unconventional tactics and teamwork seem to be finally frustrating Asano. Not only that, but they seem to be doing a good job at riling them up and goading them into doing exactly what they want as well. Leaving only two people to guard the pole is risky, but they wouldn't do it, much less provoke the Class A members trapped under it into resuming their attack, if they didn't have some scheme in mind. It'll be fun to see exactly what that is in the next chapter.

Black Butler chapter 95 - Lately, I've been thinking over this series and it's storyline, and I actually think that I don't give it enough credit. This chapter, which explores Ciel's character in a pretty revelatory, effective way that made me reconsider his character arc thus far. Not only that, it feels like a true turning point for him as well, as perhaps he will drop his cold, harsh personality and adopt a personality truer to himself. What's more, the relationship between him and Sebastian seems to be something much more invested than the two forming a pact out of mutual, selfish aims. There's still a lot about them that I don't care for, but now I feel they are much better, and more interesting characters than I've given them credit for a good while now. As far as the plot goes, it seems that the Queen wants to meet with the Green Witch. Hmm, well she is up to a bunch of shady business what with her zombie army and all, so maybe this has something to do with that. I have to wonder if she's in league with Undertaker at this point, too. I guess I'll see where this goes, but at least Ciel's character development already makes this arc not pointless so I'm satisfied about that.

Bleach chapter 589 - I'm honestly surprised Kubo remembered Yoruichi existed. Her entrance was weird...was she hiding in Orihime's boobs or something? I mean, she stuck her hands from out of there so it kinda looked like it. Urahara recreated the Shiba family cannon which will get Ichigo back to the Soul King's palace. God, what's the point of having the guy go back and forth like this Kubo? And speaking of Shiba's, when the hell are Ganju and the Fullbringers going to show up? Anyway, it looks like Mayuri is going to be fighting Sternritter Z and Zombietta instead of Ikkaku and Yumichika...because Kubo got bored of the set-up, I'm guessing. This was just an annoying chapter, especially the lame-attempts at comedy in the first half of it, and I honestly don't care about Mayuri taking over the fight with Sternritter Z. It's hard for me to think of things to say about Bleach these days, especially with chapters as dull as these, and trying to write about it is making me lose enthusiasm in writing this post, so let's just move on now.

Fairy Tail: Ice Trail and Fairy Tail: Zero chapter 1 - Now, I know what you're thinking: "why is he going over a chapter of a Fairy Tail spinoff when he hates the series?" I couldn't help the curiosity. Mashima is writing and drawing two spinoffs for his series for monthly releases, and I couldn't help but see what their first chapters were like. Of course, both were meh. Ice Trail is apparently going to be about Gray's life after the death of Ur and before he joined Fairy Tail, and basically it looks to be a generic shonen story typical in every way imaginable. Zero is much, much more interesting, in that it's about Mavis and how the Fairy Tail guild was formed, but despite the promising premise the pilot chapter suffers from the same kind of terrible writing that I've come to associate with FT. Yeah...didn't expect much, didn't get much. I might check out a few more chapters of Zero, but yeah, so far these chapters were just more FT badness. Fuck 'em.

GTO: Paradise Lost chapter 8 - Onizuka rescues female teacher from female student bullies blah blah...Onizuka is being targeted by the angry fans of that idol kid he threw frogs on blah blah...geez, how this series manages to take the fun out of GTO is beyond me. Unless it gets better fast I'll likely drop it after this arc.

Hunter X Hunter chapter 347 - Heh, I should've known Pariston was using the Assassins to try and discover what Ging's power was. I love how Ging already knew that and just trolled him by using a power he's already seen before. It's interesting that Ging can use nen powers he's come into contact with. I wonder what other abilities he's got up his sleeve. Certainly, though, he's skilled in getting people on his side since he convinced Muhel to accept him as no. 2 of the group. I've been loving the tension between Ging and Pariston ever since the manga has come back, and can't wait to see how that dynamic will play out once the Dark Continent expedition get underway.

Kuroko's Basketball chapter 270 - So...only half the chapter has been scanned, for some reason, but basically Kagami activates the second door of the zone...which is called Synchro...because the entire team becomes "in sync"...YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH NO. Goddamit, Kuroko really has become a goddamn superpower sports series now like Prince of Tennis, and I really, really do not care for that, especially since the series has lost it's ability to pull off any weight or impact to anything that goes on anymore. Sigh. At least this match will be over soon...

Magi: Adventure of Sinbad chapter 29 - And thus the birth of the Sindria trading company! Sinbad's economic plan is interesting and it's cool to see the initial foundation,  ideology, and alliance his country would become based upon. I'm looking forward to seeing where the exploits of Sinbad's trading business leads him.

Naruto chapter 685 - Basically Sakura acted as a chakra battery as Obito located Sasuke and brought him back to where they are in Kaguya's dimension. Wow, Sakura sure developed into a capable and useful character, huh? Truly she is the epitome of a well-written and strong female character that all shonen manga should look to an emulate. I see you taking notes Mashima, what with Wendy cutting her hair in a manner similar to what Sakura did early on in the series except in your case it made zero sense to do and means little but THAT'S OKAY! The important thing is that Sakura's character arc evolved from having a crush on Sasuke and being useless to having a crush on Sasuke and being a power-up/healing tool for the boyz to use in battle when needed! Kishimoto truly is a genius character writer.

Seriously, fuck this chapter. I mean, why can't Kaguya just send Sasuke off somewhere again? There is frankly nothing, NOTHING that would stop her from doing that, and what, you'll do this again even though you just exhausted yourselves? This is a stupid ass plan. Honestly, this whole sending Sasuke off somewhere basically filler-y bullshit in a already dragged out and boring battle. I really hope this battle starts to wrap up soon...

One Piece chapter 753 - Lots of neat moments in this chapter, from Bellamy's confrontation with Doflamingo, to the enslaved Tontatta rebelling, to all of Luffy's tournament allies effectively organized against Doflamingo's forces in order to pave a patch for Luffy and co. to break through Doflamingo's castle. Admittedly a bit too much going on, but it was an entertaining chapter all the same.

One-Punch Man chapter 49 - Heh, Boros and his forces have finally all been destroyed. And it turns out Saitama still wasn't being serious in his fight with him. Of course he didn't.  :lol: All in all a satisfying end to this arc.

The Seven Deadly Sins chapter 86 - Ouch. The Sins got totally screwed over here. Hendricksen is half-demon like Meliodas after all and curbstomped the lot in his new demonic form...and he's also basically turned Helbram's corpse into a zombie puppet...goddamn. Elizabeth is willing to go with Hendricksen in order to save the Sins' life...but it seems Ban has entered the picture now. Is he going to betray Meliodas and try to kill him in order to ressurect Elaine, or will he help his friends take down Hendricksen? It could honestly go either way, and I can't wait to find our.

Shokugeki no Soma chapter 78 - Man, I died when Mimasaka's semifredo turned that one judge tsundere!  :lol: It looks like Aldini has used Olive Oil in a last minute attempt to touch up his semifredo, somehow. I gotta wonder how that one ingredient can so dramatically improve his dish? Hmm...

Stealth Symphony chapter 20 - The last chapter! All in all, while the resolution was typical, it was also satisfying and did a good job at leaving the series on a high note. It's a shame this series didn't do well, since it really did have potential, and Toroma and Slice were great characters I would have liked to see more of, but alas it wasn't meant to be. Hopefully Narita has better luck with his next manga. Until then, I guess I'll just go back to waiting for Durarara season 2.

Toriko chapter 285 - HOLY. SHIT. Wow, I mean, I wasn't expecting the fight between Toriko and Heracles to last long or anything...but I didn't expect there not to even be a fight in the first place. Heracles didn't need to do anything. All he did was exhale. Not even a lot, just a whiff. And the sheer force of the air pressure CUT TORIKO IN HALF AND DUG A FUCKING CRATER NEXT TO HIM. Goddamn. Toriko's going to live though this, that's a given, but I really wanna see how, and dangit, Mappy might really need to make that sacrifice at this rate. Excellent chapter, as usual.

Rankings:

1. A Silent Voice - 10/10
2. Toriko - 9/10
3. The Seven Deadly Sins - 9/10
4. One-Punch Man - 9/10
5. Hunter X Hunter - 8.5/10
6. Magi: Adventure of Sinbad - 8.5/10
7. Shokugeki no Soma - 8.5/10
8. Assassination Classroom - 8/10
9. Black Butler - 8/10
10. Stealth Symphony - 8/10
11. One Piece - 8/10
12. Kuroko no Basket - 5/10
13. GTO: Paradise Lost - 5/10
14. Bleach - 5/10
15. Fairy Tail Zero - 5/10
16. Fairy Tail: Ice Trail - 5/10
17. Naruto - 1/10

Overall a pretty good week. I'm really looking forward to next week's Silent Voice, Toriko, Sins, and Soma!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 21, 2014, 10:05:26 PM
Viz's Shonen Jump to publish a one-shot by Psyren's author in the next issue. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-07-21/viz-shonen-jump-to-publish-1-shot-by-psyren-author/.76900)

The premise of this one-shot doesn't seem anything special, but this is nice to see nonetheless. I wonder if Iwashiro will come out with a new series in Jump sometime soon. Also, I need to finish Psyren sometime. I only ever read, like, a fourth of it.  :P
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 21, 2014, 10:13:02 PM
That's a series that I bet would have done REALLY well internationally if it was made an anime. I just get that impression from it.

The man does have potential, though, so I am certainly interested in what he does next.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 25, 2014, 11:33:12 PM
Huh, it looks like Magic Kaito is getting an anime adaption.  (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-07-25/magic-kaito-manga-gets-tv-anime-by-a-1-pictures/.77015) I love me some Kaitou Kid, so I'm down for this. It'd be great if it gets licensed for streaming, but considering how related it is to Detective Conan and how FUNi has no interest in putting any more of that out, I'm not that hopeful about that. Then again, this will only be a one or two cours series, so maybe there's hope for it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 26, 2014, 07:11:38 AM
Space Brothers is getting a movie, huh? (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-07-26/space-brothers-no.0-film-full-trailer-streamed/.77040) The plot to it seems interesting enough, so I think it'll end up being worthwhile to check out. Some elements do seem like they could be a bit retcon-y, though, but hopefully they'll tie things together with the beginning of the series well.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 26, 2014, 09:02:01 AM
I still need to finish the series, which I'll do after I catch-up with Vagabond, but I'd be interested in checking out the movie, myself.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 29, 2014, 11:05:25 PM
Oh man, I'm late on this one this week. Was pretty busy over the weekend, and these weekly manga recaps take a surprising amount of time to write, and I just wasn't feeling it. I'm still not feeling it, actually, so I'm keeping this pretty short. Some good news to come out of last week, though, was that a new group has picked up scanning Detective Conan, so thank god for that. Especially since there was a cool new development at the end of the current case.

A Silent Voice chapter 46 - So Shoko wants to make it up to Shoyo by finishing the movie. Though Ueno has already refused, could she really get back the gang together, and make amends? The interactions between Shoko and Nagatsuka was touching in this chapter. Both of them care about helping Shoyo and clearly have a mutual bond from that, but I think they've become genuine friends themselves, a great development considering they previously were only around each other because of Shoyo. Will they be able to finish the movie? I'd hope so.

Assassination Classroom chapter 94 - Geez, Principal Gakuho is one harsh disciplinarian. And he really hates to lose. Damn. I can see why Asano both looks up to and thinks of him as a monster. I'd like to see him get some character development after this arc, and eventually rebel against his fathers methods and ideals. And it seems like Class E are no longer outcasts, and in fact are starting to be respected. Of course, the Principal isn't going to stand for that, so I wonder what he's scheming to put Class E down again.

Bleach chapter 590 - It's Mayuri, so of course he works over Sternritter Z with some bullshit moves and destroys Bambietta. Speaking of which...was it really necessary to have Bambietta beg for Z's dick (at least that's what it seemed like), Kubo? I mean, goddamn, how low can you sink? And then the ending of the chapter...okay, how the fuck is Yuppi still alive? Grimmjow blew him the fuck up. Mayuri shouldn't even know who he is. WHY THE FUCK IS HE HERE AND STILL ALIVE? As for the Privarion Arrancars...well, they make sense because that's payoff on the bodies Mayuri found in Hueco Mundo, like, 300 chapters ago, so fine, whatever. I don't get why Charlotte is also here, instead of say, the Afro Arrancar who we know is still alive and stuff, but really, who gives a shit about these guys anyway. Writing about Bleach chapters is a soul-sucking experience every week because there's nothing to look forward to or speculate with this series except for when it's ending. This is Bleach's problem, and really the problem with a lot of shonen manga nowadays, is that we have to suffer through these endless, endless battles against mooks who only exist to be fought and defeated and pad out the story. This is nothing new, of course, but reading this series every week I keep asking why this matters, and why does this need to be in the story. And, of course, it doesn't. Kubo doesn't need to have or show all these battles. No one cares about Mayuri and these Arrancar characters from 300+ chapters ago coming in and defeating a minor villain who's only characterization is that he's a sexual deviant (which is supposed to be funny, but it's not). In general, these fucking Quincies are not much of characters outside of how goddamn weird or quirky they are. They are not characters. They are one-note punching bags for the series' gargantuan cast of characters to fight just so they can have "done something" in this arc. But the Quincies should be actual human beings, because, as Kubo established early on in the series, they were regular human beings who happened to fight hollows to help people. Not these psychopathic, horrible weirdos who are waging a war of revenge for god knows why reasons. I am only still reading this series at this point because it is almost over. But goddamn does it want to drag and make it's last stretch some of the most painful, tiring reading experiences I've ever had.

Detective Conan chapters 901-902 - This was a fun case. But I think the most interesting thing about it was the ending, showing the mysterious little girl and Akai smiling on learning the news Shukichi won his match. This got me thinking that Shukichi might be the middle brother of the Akai siblings, and perhaps Sera isn't actually Akai's sister, but the little girl is, and she has been shrunk by the drug like Conan and Haibara are. I'll be curious to see if theory turns out to be correct in the future.

Hunter X Hunter chapter 348 - So Sayu is the traitor. Um, okay. Uh...that's basically the most important thing that happened in the chapter, and I don't care about Sayu so the development doesn't leave much impact to me. This is really a "see where this goes" kind of thing.

Kuroko's Basketball chapters 270.5-271 - So, Zone level 2 is still some corny-ass bullshit, but at least it hasn't turned the game around for Seirin completely as Akashi widens the gap at the last second. Rakuzan's got a 7 point lead and there's only 40 seconds left in the game. I'd like to hope Seirin will just lose the game and come out a stronger team...but I'm just betting they win at the last second do to teamwork/friendship/zone level 3 or some crap like that. Well, at least this game is almost over.

Magi chapter 232 - Huh, so Solomon basically becomes one with Il Illah and becomes god, huh? I'm confused as to whether David got revived or that was just an older Solomon, but I'm leaning towards the former because Solomon's spirit is shown replacing Il Illah as god now. Or it could not be that, I dunno, I haven't read the newest chapter yet. But, I do think that Arba is Gyokuen even more now, what with the way she referred to Il Illah as "our father" and stuff. Good stuff, this chapter.

Naruto chapter 686 - Kaguya transports them into a gravity dimension even she has trouble moving in. Our ultra-powerful final villain, everyone! And Obito is going to sacrifice himself...again. Whatever.

One Piece chapter 754 - So...is the fight with Pica going to be over now? Like that? Really?  Geez, give Zoro a challenging fight already Oda. He hasn't had a decent one on one fight since the timseskip. A decent enough chapter overall, but...eh, don't care for how the fight with Pica is going.

One-Punch Man chapter 50 - The scans say this is the 49th chapter...but this series is so confusing with how the chapters are split up, so I'm paying it no mind. But some cool stuff here, and set-up for future events with the appearance of Handsomely Sweet Mask and Metal Knight's suspicious behavior. I look forward to seeing what the new arc will be about, and how these character will fit into it.

Peephole chapter 32-33 - It was humorous seeing Kurosu and Miyachi having a normal date at an amusement park, as it was a bit disturbing. Looks like the sister of Kurosu's old friend that Miyachi killed is looking for answers. Okay. I'm not sure where that'll go, but hopefully it'll be fun.

The Seven Deadly Sins chapter 87 - The fight between Ban and Meliodas is good stuff. I don't think Ban is going to go through with killing him, even with Meliodas' blessing, but I wonder if he's going to be so willing to accept being comrades with him now that he knows Meliodas is from the demon clan. On that note, it looks like Hendricksen has an unexpected thorn in his side....Griamor! I wasn't expecting him to return, but it'd make sense for him to want to avenge Veronica and protect Elizabeth. Of course, I doubt he's going to be a match for Hendricksen, but he might be able to get away with Elizabeth or buy some time for the Sins to catch up to them.

Shokugeki no Soma chapter 79 - Takumi did a good job making a lemon coating for his semifredo to make his dish stand out from Mimasaka's, but unfortunately, it seems he miscalculated and underestimated the extent of Mimasaka's research, and ultimately his dish just does not have the same impact as his did. Ouch. Looks like Takumi's out. I wasn't expecting that, but then again, it's interesting that the underdog character no one knows about would win. Thing is, Mimasaka is such a gimmick character and I'm not interested in him going up against any of the other characters (I just know it's going to be Soma), unless he becomes a more 3-dimmensional character and such. But, it's not a bad development. It might be interesting seeing Soma avenge Takumi's loss, and the author could develop this in a good way. I'll see how this goes.

Toriko chapter 286 - I can't remember the last time I haven't enjoyed a Toriko chapter. I wish there would never be a time. But, sadly, this chapter has happened. My problem with everything that happens here is basically a result of one, critical flaw - no foreshadowing. The healing water, the blue demon, Komatsu preparing air, none of this was established properly beforehand and so it all comes off like a huge asspull here. And I really don't care that the Blue Demon landed a punch on Heracles. It's one thing for Toriko to have the potential to rival the power of the Eight Kings, but Toriko, even if it's just the demon inside of him, should not be on his level at all yet. So yeah...I do not care at all for these developments. It's a poorly-executed shonen power-up. If the flashback scenes in this chapter were properly shown when those events should have occurred proper 20 chapters ago, and if this was spread out to shown Komatsu preparing Air and stuff, then I might have been able to swallow this easier. But, this execution just leaves so much to be desired and is not well written, and I've come to expect much better from Toriko. However, there have been times in manga before where I've felt things happened in a poor way, but that was remedied later on, so I'll see how this all develops from here. But yeah, I rarely say this, but Toriko had a bad chapter this week. Too bad, but hopefully it doesn't happen again anytime soon.

Rankings:

1. A Silent Voice - 10/10
2. The Seven Deadly Sins - 9.5/10
3. Detective Conan - 9/10
4. One-Punch Man - 9/10
5. Assassination Classroom - 8/10
6. Magi - 8/10
7. Hunter X Hunter - 8/10
8. Shokugeki no Soma - 8/10
9. Peephole - 7.5/10
10. One Piece - 7/10
11. Toriko - 6/10
12. Kuroko's Basketball - 4/10
13. Bleach - 1/10
14. Naruto - 1/10

Wasn't really feeling last week of manga. Maybe it was the disappointment from the Toriko chapter, since, as you can tell from the scores, I didn't dislike most of these chapters. But...outside of Silent Voice, Sins, Conan, and OPM I can't say any of last week's chapters left much of a significant and positive impact on me. Hopefully this week will be more entertaining as a whole.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Rynnec on July 29, 2014, 11:46:09 PM
QuoteBleach chapter 590 - It's Mayuri, so of course he works over Sternritter Z with some bullshit moves and destroys Bambietta.

Fuck you, Kubo. :srs:

As for the Giselle thing, I'll just believe that Yumchika was bullshitting about her gender.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 01, 2014, 10:46:37 AM
Looks like The Seven Deadly Sins anime is being done by A-1 Pictures. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-08-01/the-seven-deadly-sins-anime-game-cast-staff-announced/.77198) They did good work on Magi, so I have good hope they do a similarly good job with Sins. Though, this also means that this is probably going to be licensed by Aniplex, but at least that'll add to the backlog of titles Toonami can pick up from them in the future (assuming it turns out good and is dubbed, of course).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 02, 2014, 11:51:05 AM
Seems like the releases of new chapters of the Silver Spoon are going to slow down because Arakawa is taking care of a sick family member. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-08-02/silver-spoon-arakawa-slows-manga-serialization/.77222) Though I of course hope we still get at least one new chapter a month, I'm fine with this, and she should take all the time she needs until her family member get better.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 02, 2014, 04:08:30 PM
This was a much better week than last week, easily.

A Silent Voice chapter 47 - It seems like there's going to be a chapter focusing on each member of the group and their reactions to aftermatch of Shoko's attempted suicide/Shoyo's hospitalization. Last week the chapter was focused on Nagatsuka, the week before that it was about Yuzuru. This week's focus is on Sahara, and her doubts as to whether she has really changed as a person. Unlike Shoyo, it never crossed her mind to track down Shoko and make amends or befriend her. She ran away from the situation, her problems, and Shoko, and instead tried to be someone that other people saw her as, and by circumstance, ended up coming to an understanding with Ueno, perhaps out of the desire to let bygones be and start over, or perhaps out of guilt that she saw her as a horrible person, when she herself couldn't do anything, and perhaps because she just wanted approval from those around her. So the question is, did she change as a person through these years, or has she simply been going along with the flow, doing what's convenient and popular to do at the time. But it's pointless for her to think about why she's done what she's done, and instead focus on what she can do right now for the people she cares about. The dress she made for Ueno, to me, symbolizes her desire to be useful to someone, and to be there for someone. Even though Ueno has rejected her, Shoko stops her from throwing the dress away. Shoko tells her they need it. That they need her. She is their friend, she is doing something that's making a difference. She's been helping all this time. Maybe, she would have never talked to Shoko again if it wasn't for Shoyo. Maybe, she wouldn't have been able to run over and risk her life to stop Shoko from jumping to her death. But she can help with this movie, right here, right now, and that will make a difference. 

Assassination Classroom chapter 95 - Class E has become more and more confident in themselves and the series has progressed. In the beginning, they were misfits and outcasts, scorned by everyone, mocked for their lack of skills, left behind to suffer for the sake of the other students of the school. Korosensei has slowly but surely over time rebuilt each and every one of them. He's shown each student their strengths, how to better themselves, and that they can achieve marvelous results just as much as anyone else in the school if they applied themselves seriously and diligently. As a result, Class E is now a force to be reckoned with. Not only because they are all skilled killers, but because they have learned to make the best use of their skill sets to overcome their obstacles, and work together to surmount their shared adversities. They are a close-nit family, and from each others' influence they've bettered themselves as students, assassins, and, more importantly, as people. And people have recognized them for it. Time and time again Class E has been put in situations where people have expected them to fail miserably. They've seen them as useless, incompetent, or otherwise inferior to elite groups like Class A or the professional assassins Takaoka hired. But Class E has proved their mettle to time again, and again, and again, and they've slowly but surely earned the respect of those who once looked down on them. Now, Class E is not the black sheep of their school. They are viewed as capable, if not eccentric, students and athletes and respected for it. This was Korosensei aim all along. He's been teaching them that the only way to earn people's respect and attention is to show that you are capable of things no one else can do, that you can do things just as well or better through your own means, and that you must work hard to achieve this but you can't achieve it alone, and that's why it's important to work together. And after beating Class A in the recent competition, and with mid-terms on the way, it seems his efforts have paid off handsomely.

However, because of Class E's rising success, and because of how well their risks have paid off to them, they feel invincible. They've overcome many obstacles, some of them being life-or-death situations, and they've come up on top in the end each time. But this has led them to think they can get away with anything, impatient to improve themselves more through more audacious methods regardless of the risks involved. Here, unsatisfied, they attempted to kill two birds with one stone by not only going through Korosensei's usual vigorous cram-sessions in school, but also to self-train together outside of school by jumping on top of rooftops to and from school. They didn't think of the risks of this. They didn't think about what could happen, whether they could get hurt, whether they could hurt someone else, whether they could be seen and the secret of Korosensei exposed to the world. They didn't think about the consequences, because after being on a winning streak in life for so long, they've forgotten that there are consequences, dangers, and risks to what they do and don't do. And while they didn't end up killing anybody, they've hospitalized an old man. And they're lucky it was just that.

Korosensei has always taught them to be mindful of both themselves and others. They've forgotten that. And it's caused an accident. And that's unforgivable to him. He's angry not just at them, but at himself to. He's never wanted anyone else to get hurt because of his or Class E's actions (well, until he blows up the earth, that is). And so that slap, to every single student in Class E, is a striking moment. Korosensei, who prided himself in being able to teach any student and get them through any situation, has failed to teach them a very important thing. Humility. And so, as a consequence, Class E will learn this the hard way. They will take care of the old man they hurt for the next two weeks, without any studying or training. They will lose these two valuable weeks of their lives, to understand that there are consequences. That they are not all-powerful, they are not invincible. They can get hurt, and they can hurt others. I'm totally reading too much into this chapter, but seriously, it's a lot of great stuff to think about as you reflect on the series thus far and on these characters. Really cool chapter of AC this week, and I look forward to seeing where this storyline goes.

Bleach chapter 591 - So, I guess the bits where Mayuri was shocking the Arrancar for their incessant babbling were a bit amusing, but it still doesn't make this much of an interesting situation. Though, I did find it amusing that Luppi says they "won't lose to Shinigami." Uh, dude, I know Grimmjow blew you up and stuff, but your friends there all got their asses handed to them by shinigami. Anyway, Charlotte defeats Bambietta (for good, I'm assuming), which is...like, really? Charlotte? So is Charlotte stronger than Komamura in his most powerful form now? No, even if Bambietta has been weakened and shit from being blown up by Mayuri in the last chapter (which, really, she's a zombie, she shouldn't feel pain and shit so she should always be at max strength and whatnot), I really, sincerely have to question why fucking Charlotte of all people is able to single-handedly destroy Bambietta even though Ikkaku and Yumichika couldn't. Whatever. The real, and only, interesting thing in the chapter is the fact that Hitsugaya is a zombie now apparently. Which is...um, well there was no setup to this, but I guess it's plausible since he was pretty beat-up in his last appearance. Of course, Giselle's power only requires other Arrancar to be dead before she can take control of them, so I'm guessing Hitsugaya is still alive and they'll be able to de-zombify him somehow. I mean, it's effin' Hitsugaya. One of the most popular characters among the japanese fanbase. I sincerely doubt he's going to be dying anytime soon.

Detective Conan chapter 903 - Ooh, Conan has just been getting right to it with the plotline it seems. Conan might just meet Sera's mysterious little sister after this case is over. That's exciting. I'm beginning to suspect that Sera might not actually be a girl. I dunno, just the way Aoyama goes out of the way to bring up how flat-chested she is and stuff, plus the hint that last chapter that the little girl might be the one who's really Akai's little sister, makes me feel that's going to be a twist with her character. I feel that schtick was already sorta done with Eisuke, but whatever. Heck, this could just be a red herring. Bourbon was a total red herring, after all. The little girl might be related to Shukichi in some way totally unrelated to Akai. Who knows? Anyway, murder case at a hotel pool! It's a Sonoko + Sera case, so it's guaranteed to be a good time. Looking forward to seeing how it develops.

Magi chapter 233 - Man, I really enjoyed this chapter. Sheba has grown on me a lot since her introduction, and now we see here that she's been the one who fiercely defends Solomon and his teachings in his stead. The Solomon that was left in the mortal world is but an empty shell. His soul and will became one with Il Illah and spread evenly among everyone in the world. But this is suspicious to many. They feel that now Solomon is directing their destinies. They are not free, they are being controlled by him. They are not satisfied with everyone being equal. They want to fight destiny completely. Sheba, alone, fights for Solomon's ideals because he no longer can. And, over time, she slowly manages to forge a peace. However, the person she once promised to help protect Solomon with, Arba, her closest friend, has been working to undo Solomon's actions by utilizing David's technology to create what appears to be the Medium. And I think we all know what happens next. Even so, I look forward to seeing it played out in the remaining chapters of this arc.

Naruto chapter 687 - This chapter was about Obito's redemption. We take a break from the battle to watch as the same points get beaten over and over again and feel "aw" when Obito dies and meets Rin in heaven, I guess. No. Fuck that shit. Obito does not deserve redemption. Not this conveniently, anyway. He goes to fucking heaven? Are you serious? He's "awesome," Naruto? Are you an idiot? Baka, he's fucking directly responsible for the death of your parents and Neji and starting this damn war among a myriad of horrible things. I don't give a fuck if he wanted to be hokage and he believes Naruto will be hokage and all this bullshit. Obito was an angsty, irrational, murderous puppet of a black blob with mommy issues. He was most surely not "awesome." I heard this chapter has made Neo Ulta Mike on Toon Zone go from being indifferent to Naruto to loathing it. While I've long found this series to be irredeemably awfully written, I can certainly see how this can be a clincher for others because this is just insulting writing on Kishimoto's part. Fuck you, Naruto. Fuck you.

One Piece chapter 755 - Was the whole stuff with the Tontatta's princess set up before? I honestly can't remember. I did enjoy seeing more of Franky's fight with Senor Pink and the "We're Heartbreakers" line. But the whole stuff about Princess Mansherry was just confusing to me because I totally forgot that was even a part of this arc. There really is just too much going on right now to keep track of.

One-Punch Man chapters 26.5, 29.5, 34.8, 34.9 - There wasn't a "regular" chapter of OPM this week but a bunch of sub/special chapters were uploaded, and they were all quite enjoyable stuff. I love these kinds of simple chapters just because it shows how great a character Saitama really is. Clueless about the politics that come with his profession, but always an unhesitatingly willing to do the right thing and help people as a hero should. Admirable qualities that compliment his laid back, normal guy personality and it makes these side-chapters lovely reads. And hey, more OPM in any form is always a good thing, so I'd rather read these side-stories than no new chapter at all.  :D

Peephole chapter 34 - I have a feeling this girl's brother wanted Miyachi to kill him. Like, he was way too excited to find out Miyachi was a killer. Maybe he thought getting killed was going to be the ultimate get-off or something. Anyway, looks like Miyachi's going to nip the bud before it spreads and kill the sister off, or so it seems. Will Kurosu stop her? I dunno, we'll see.

The Seven Deadly Sins chapter 88 - I loved, LOVED this chapter. The exchange between Ban and Meliodas was superb, tying into their characters and relationship with each other perfectly and coming to a satisfying, sensible resolution between the two. And the end of the chapter, with Dreyfus and Griamor, father and son, teaming up to take down the man who betrayed them together is pure brilliance. So excited to see that fight next week.

Shokugeki no Soma chapter 80 - Well, I expected Soma and Mimasaka would end up facing each other. I expected a lot of what happened in this chapter, as it's standard plot development in this situation in pretty much any series. But the execution was still superb and I love Soma's calm, cool playing of the situation, riling up Mimasaka by outwitting his expectations and making a audacious gamble. It makes me excited to see Soma take down the oaf and see just how he can possibly outdo him after showing him all his cards. Fun stuff, and goes to show even though something might happen predictably, it doesn't mean it can't be damn fun to watch/read if executed just right.

Space Brothers chapter 231 - From what I can tell, this is the first new Space Brothers chapter in over two months. And...it's kind of a total waste, honestly. Nothing of real significance happened. I was really interested in seeing how Carlo's story was going to go from here and whether he'd be able to get back onto the team or not, but I guess we're taking a break from that to focus on what's going on with Sharon again. Which I wouldn't mind, but most of this chapter was devoted to an unfunny set-up that paid off in a rather corny way at the end of the chapter. Sure, we've been introduced to two more of Sharon's colleges in the same boat as her, but I still feel most of this chapter was unnecessarily fillerish, and the fact this was the first new chapter in over two months and there isn't a new chapter next week doesn't help that. Well, hopefully the next one will get back on track.

Toriko chapter 287 - Thankfully, Toriko has pulled itself around from last week. While I still don't like how the Blue Demon wasn't really set-up that great, he has an interesting dynamic with Toriko and it's clear that even he's no match for Heracles. Moreover, it turns out Komatsu has not yet prepared Air (I guess the Blue Demon just ate an Air fruit and not "Air" itself last week), and that the knife needed to prepare it is insanely large. I wonder how Komatsu will be able to pull this off? This puts the tension back into the conflict because the necessity of timeliness is still in play, since Blue Demon can't hold out against Heracles for more than a few minutes and the continent itself is shattering because of Heracles' power and because he's so fucking pissed off right now. Whew, like I said, Toriko managed to recover from last week the best it can. Now, it still needs to keep doing right from here on out, but I'm hopeful that I won't be disliking a Toriko anytime too soon.

Rankings:

1. A Silent Voice - 10/10
2. The Seven Deadly Sins - 10/10
3. Magi - 10/10
4. One-Punch Man - 10/10
5. Assassination Classroom - 10/10
6. Detective Conan - 9/10
7. Shokugeki no Soma - 9/10
8. Toriko - 8/10
9. Peephole - 7.5/10
10. One Piece - 7/10
11. Space Brothers - 6/10
12. Bleach - 3/10
13. Naruto - 1/10

Very good week this time. It's rare that there' 5 10/10 worthy chapters in a week, but these were all so strong that I don't feel like giving 'em anything lower, and then there were a lot of solid chapters from most of the other series too. As always, I look forward to seeing how the new developments in these chapters play out next week.



Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 04, 2014, 01:55:42 PM
A Silent Voice has been confirmed to end on November 12th. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-08-04/a-silent-voice-koe-no-katachi-manga-to-end-on-november-12/.77278) Assuming it won't be taking any breaks, then that means there are about 13 or so more chapters left, which sounds short, but likely work out well. It's great that the series can end naturally, rather than force itself to go on and on like a lot of other popular series. I hope the remaining chapters continue the level of excellence the series has held for it's entire run and then some.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 14, 2014, 01:00:23 AM
Wow, I'm super late on this one. On the flip side, because of the Oban Festival, there aren't many new chapters out for any of the manga, so I won't have much to talk about for this saturday. That certainly balances out last week, where I read nearly 20 different new manga chapters....

A Silent Voice chapter 48 - I'll be honest, I did not expect a chapter about Miki...but wow. Have you ever met a person who has deluded themselves that they are this innocent, model citizen, but in reality is very much a hypocrite and capable of some horrible things, but he/she doesn't realize it and always manages to put a spin on what's happened to put themselves in a victimized or positive light? I certainly know such people, and it can be almost horrifying to see just how far they will twist the facts to make themselves appear saintly and in the right. Typically, you don't see these kinds of characters often in anime/manga. If you do, they are these psychopathic, crazy people, which is not really what I'm talking about, which is more of a "everyday evil" kind of thing. As far as animation/comics in general goes, I'm drawing a blank on many similar characters like this. The closest I can think of is Eric Cartman from South Park. Specifically, if you remember the episode "Fishsticks," you'll remember how Cartman managed to convince himself that he was responsible for the fish dicks joke, when in reality he was only a catalyst for Jimmy to think of it, and you saw the process of how each time Cartman thought of what happened he kept portraying himself in a more active role and heroic light, while Jimmy was increasingly shown to be ineffectual and less involved. In Cartman's mind, the reality of what happened changed to fit his need to be important, and even though Kyle and Jimmy call him out on it, Cartman convinces himself that it is Jimmy who's the one who is deluding himself. It was simply impossible for Cartman to acknowledge that he was taking credit for something he didn't do, because he genuinely believed that he was responsible, and because of his massive ego, the reality of what happened was soon replaced with a more palatable version to suit his delusions of grandeur.

Miki Kawai is exactly the same. She believes she is this cute, kind, model student. She is her class representative, she gets perfect scores, she does plenty of community service. It's clear that she believes she is paradigm of a human being and tries to behave as one. One could say she has a superiority complex, since although she is genial to other people in public, her insistence to help them comes from not just wanting to help, but to show off how smart and kind she is. The first pages of this chapter show her looking at her mirror and thinking about how cute she is. She makes a point to remind Mashiba about the text she sent him about visiting Ishida, not really because she cares about him, but because she wants an excuse to get closer to him and make him fall for how gosh-darn selfless and caring she is. She isn't just satisfied with him knowing that, but the class as well, telling everyone to fold 1000 paper cranes to show their support for Ishida. Why? She'd probably say it's a symbolic gesture of good will. But it's also a completely frivolous act. It will not help Ishida get better. It will not help Ishida feel better. But Kawai is not thinking about that. She's thinking of a way to, yet again, show what a great person she is for thinking of such a "selfless" gesture. What Kawai cares about is the approval of others, and the attention of others. This is why she is head of the class, makes sure she's exceptional at everything she does, and presents herself as this kind, saintly figure. She wants people to notice her and love her as much as she loves herself. And she is eager to know what people think about her. Obsessed. Why else would she be peeing at someone else's phone, focusing on her text?

How does Kawai take criticism of her and her 1000 paper crane plan? Well, she's just confused. After all, she's "worked harder than anyone else," "for the class," and "they all backed her" as class represented. So why would people be mocking her behind her back? She quickly labels herself a victim. She soon attributes their comments as jealousy of her "relationship" with Mashiba. And then she begins to feel she's being bullied. She thinks "oh, this must be how Nishimiya and Sahara felt;" she puts some small criticism of her and her behavior on the same level of Shoko's horrific and often violent bullying and Sahara's complete isolation from school. Both of which, she is quick to forget, she was a part of, and as guilty as anyone else for. She re-remembers the incident where Ishida told her, as a favor, to not tell Mashiba and co. about how he used to bully Shoko in middle school, which she at the time perceived as him threatening her, and publicly shamed him in front of the entire group, the event that destroyed the movie making group, left Nishimiya alone once again and ridden with guilt for what happened, which caused her to try to commit suicide, which led to Ishida saving her at the cost of himself, leaving him in the condition he is in now. But Kawai doesn't think about it that way. She just thinks that "oh, Ishida has been punished for what he's done to me, maybe I should forgive him...a little." She's already manipulated the facts, to portray her as a helpless victim who has suffered just as much as Nishimiya, whereas in reality she was one of the biggest bullies of both her and Ishida, who she now thinks as someone in need of her forgiveness. In Kawai's mind, everything is about her and everything is like how believes it is. And she is always blameless. And if she can't blame Ishida because he's in the hospital, or Shoko because she's been bullied, who else is left but her own best friend, Nao, who she quickly turns on. And notice how she plays the poor victim act in front of Mashiba, tells her she's being bullied with a little sob, and tells him the name of the girl who wrote the text criticizing her so that he can "do something about it." She casually passes off the task of revenge to another person, to absolve herself of any blame. This way she keeps her reputation intact, humiliates and isolates her perceived enemies, and stays on top and as popular as ever. I doubt she even realizes how manipulative that is. But she's probably incapable of even considering that.

If anything clinches the "Kawai is a self-centered bitch" thing it's that she completely ignores what Shoko wants to do, finish the movie, and belittles her idea while going on what she believes to be a motivational speech but is really a self-pitying rant. Furthermore, now that she believes "Nao is bad," she is quick to antagonize her. She firmly believes that Nao is the bad guy here, but Nao, while a despicable in her won right for how she's treated Shoko all this time, genuinely cares about Ishida's well-being and recognizes that her actions were wrong, and while she won't admit it, she feels guilty about it. Nao doesn't hide behind pretense. She does what she feels. But all Kawai cares about is keeping up her image of being a model student. She has no genuine interest in anyone else but herself, and she is not capable of thinking of herself in a negative light, or contemplate on her own actions. So here we have two very different everyday life villains. One who isn't afraid to admit who she is, the other completely unaware. And now they are face to face with each other, a tense confrontation soon to turn to a shouting match. And it's anyone's guess where it will lead. Once again, A Silent Voice has the best chapter of the week. Easily.

Assassination Classroom chapter 96 - Well, that was resolved a bit quicker than I expected.  :D But it was a great chapter. What Class E needed was a lesson in responsibility. What could teach them that more than taking care of a bunch of rowdy elementary school kids for two whole weeks? Not only does Class E embrace this challenge, they own it, and go above and beyond. As it stands, it would seem they've done more than enough to warrant the old man's forgiveness, but will Korosensei be satisfied with just this, or is there more to be done? I'll have to read the next chapter to find out, but I'd hope so. Otherwise, this seems just a bit too short and convenient, after such a promising development delivered in the last chapter. Still, I can't complain too much. T'was a good chapter, after all.

Attack on Titan chapter 60 - It looks like the truth about the Interior Corps. crimes and the Monarchy's corruption is about to be exposed. Meanwhile, Erwin is before the king and about to be executed. Ho boy, this sure ain't looking good for him. The story keeps rolling along and I enjoyed this chapter quite a bit. Some great scenes here, from Levi trying to get information from the stubborn Interior Corps guy and continuing to ignore his attempts to taunt and guilt trip them, Flegel standing up to his father's murderers and exposing them in front of all of Trost, and Hange convincing the reporters to do the just thing and expose the truth. Very good developments, and it'll be interesting to see how some of them, particularly "Kenny Ackerman," come into play in future chapters.

Attack on Titan: Before the Fall chapter 8 - Lots of strong, powerful dramatic action in this chapter. I honestly don't remember being this enthralled by a fight against a Titan in any point in the main series. That's probably because the art in this series is just so much stronger, providing more serious dramatic menace to the situation, and an even greater sense of desperation. Kyukuro has a plan to beat the titan, which would make him the first one in years to do so according to this series. Will this battle be what inspires him to think of the 3-D maneuver gear? I wonder, and I guess I'll have to wait to find out.

Bleach chapter 592 - Hitsugaya is likely not dead, but he is brain dead, with no awareness of what he is doing. Obviously, he's way too much of a match for the Arrancar, so Mayuri is going to have to deal with him himself. This is probably one of the better chapters of late, at least, mainly because it was focused and mostly action-oriented. I'd rather read a meh Bleach chapter than one that pisses me the fuck off or bores me to death, which is what we usually get, so I'll take it.

GTO: Paradise Lost chapters 9-10 - These are probably the first GTO: PL chapters I can say I've liked. The core story still isn't interesting, but the gags were very strong in this chapter, particularly the scene where Onizuka and Ryuji are cleaning up the grafitti while casually avoiding the attacks of the mad fangirls. I was surprised to see a flash forward to Onizuka in prison again so soon. Apparently the incident that got him into prison is coming up, and after we see that, will we see how Onizuka is adjusting to prison life? Now THAT I want to read about. These chapters showed some promise of improvement. I don't know if it will keep that, but it would be nice if this series elevated itself to just meh or okay rather than being boring and a pale imitation of the original, like it's been so far, so we'll see.

The Heroic Legend of Arslan chapter 14 - Karlan has been killed, his forces pushed back, and now Arslan and co. must rescue the alive king and oust the usurper. They'll probably succeed. I'd say the best thing about this chapter was it's good action, which was to be expected since Arakawa is drawing this series. But the strategy Arslan and co. employed to allow a party of 5 men outwit and push back an entire army was impressive and entertaining to watch, and I do really like this core cast of characters. Overall, it was a good battle chapter with solid plot development.

Hunter X Hunter chapter 349 - We learn more about how the succession to be king of Kakim works and who all the princes are and stuff, and then the fourth prince gets some sort of power from some fairy-thing as part of an initiation sort of deal. Meanwhile, Kurapika decides they should just play it cool and not expose Sayu as a traitor until they arrive on the Dark Continent, and then we learn that six of the princes are hiring bodyguards, and that's the chapter. I'm going to be perfectly honest here: I've kinda found these last few chapters rather boring. They've been way too expository and filled with huge walls of text serving to over-explaining things that could be described faster and more simply. When we are focusing on Ging and Pariston, that stuff is fascinating and awesome because of the tension between the characters and that we know enough to be invested in them. But I can't really care about the 4th prince of Kakim or the majority of the Zodiacs besides Kurapika, Leorio, and Cheadle, which is why the Sayu twist falls completely flat for me and I don't find it interesting. I'm just hoping for some more exciting developments soon, and them finally leaving for the Dark Continent at some point. One thing I am interested, though, is the fact the Princes are hiring bodyguards. I have to wonder if anybody we know will be hired by the 4th prince, in particular. Perhaps the Phantom Troupe? It'd be interesting to see Kurapika have to go up against them again now that they know his tricks and identity. Or, perhaps Kurapika will team up with a rival prince to take down the 4th prince. There's a lot of potential with this new plot point, and I'm curious to see what Togashi does with it.

Kuroko's Basketball chapters 272-273 - One thing I do like about this situation is that even though Kagami entered the second phase of the zone, the match was not turned around easily and Rakuzan is playing as hard as ever. And by a stroke of luck, Hyuga manages to score a three pointer with a foul, allowing for Seirin to tie up this game and go for overtime if they can make the rebound. So overall, these were much better chapters that captured a sense of desperation and intensity that the match had really lacked prior. Obviously, I can't ignore how crappy a lot of this match has been, but I do appreciate when it has a good moment, and this is a good moment. If Serin makes the rebound, they'll have tied the game against the strongest players in the area. Even if they lose after that, they'll have a moral victory there, in the same way how Shohoku beating Shonan but losing the game after was. I'm not sure if the series will go that root, but at least I like this development, which is nice, since I like liking things.

Magi chapter 234 - In her blind desire to fulfill Solomon's will, Sheba ignored the animosity and danger around her, which ultimately proved to be her downfall, as the Alma Thorran faction, fervently anti-Solomon, wages a war against her to destroy his will and restore Il Illah, and in the process, Sheba pays with her life. A tragic end to Solomon's dream. I totally called all of this a long, long time ago, down to Aladdin being Sheba and Solomon's kid, but I still thought this was an awesome chapter. I expect that there will only be two chapters left of this arc, and then we'll finally go back to the present. I await to see how exactly this all ends.

Magi: Adventure of Sinbad chapter 30 - Sinbad's first trading venture ends in failure as a result of inexperience. However, he plans to use the knowledge he's gained from this as a learning experience and is more excited than ever to succeed in the trading venture. Good chapter, showing some of Sinbad's best qualities as a characte as well as providing an interesting start to his trading career.

Naruto chapter 688 - Obito wants to be alone with Rin in heaven, apparently, so he transports himself out of the afterlife (somehow), tells Kakashi he should be the next hokage (even though he is completely useless and Naruto has proven himself to be a far more capable and effective leader), and gives him the Mangekyo Sharingan, so now Kakashi can use the Susanoo and stuff. Eh, whatever. Bullshit power-up to make Kakashi useful. Fine. Just get this damn fight over already.

One Piece chapter 756 - Sugar's woken up, and she is pissed. I wonder if Ussop will have to fight her again. For now, she's sent out some monstrous toy soldiers to fight the Straw Hats and their allies. And at the end of the chapter, Rebecca is face to face with Diamante. She clearly isn't capable of winning this fight by herself, but perhaps Kyros will arrive and the two will team up to take him down. Overall, another meh-ish chapter, but with some good moments and a nice tease of a fight to look forward to.

One-Punch Man chapter 50 - This chapter was rather short, just showing Saitama getting out of the spaceship, Genos insulting Tornado on Saitama's orders and getting his ass kicked (which was hilarious), and then an explanation of how A-City was never rebuilt. A shorty, but a goodie, though I hope for a more substantial chapter next time.

Peephole chapter 35 - Ho ho, looks like Yawagiwa is some sort of Esper and interested in Miyachi, and Miyachi, of course, is interested in her. Interested in killing her, that is. I can tell already this'll be another fun arc.

Shokugeki no Soma chapter 81 - Soma's got nothing up his sleeve. It seems he'll just make this up as he goes along and create an earnest dish that Mimasaka can't perfectly replicate. A lot of this chapter is devoted to the introduction of this strange journalist character, who I'm not sure is supposed to be a spy or whatever, but it seems like he's going to be tagging along and observing Soma cook. Hmm. Well, this chapter was a bit of a step down from the last few weeks, mainly because of the focus on this new character, but there was some good humor here, and I am curious to see where this development leads and if it'll influence the dish Soma makes.

Toriko chapter 288 - Of course, Horse King Heracles is on a whole other level. A lesser series would have the Blue Demon completely turn the battle around and beat it. Toriko? The Blue Demon scores one lucky punch, but Heracles doesn't have to lift a hoof to take him down. All it needs to do is breathe. Literally, inhaling the air around the Blue Demon, which ends up suffocating it, forcing it to return to Toriko's already battered and bruised body. There is absolutely no way they can beat it. It is one of the eight kings of the Gourmet World for a reason, after all. Toriko is simply not on it's level. What he's done is buy time for Komatsu to prepare the Air fruit, which, if things go right, should ripen at 120% of it's normal flavor, which would surely satisfy Heracles, possibly enough to spare all their lives. The clock is ticking, though. Toriko has no cards left to play. He's too outmatched. He won't be able to hold Heracles off for much more than a few seconds. Will that buy Komatsu and co. just enough time to succeed? Likely, but I'm no less excited to find out in the next chapter.

Vinland Saga chapter 106 - I liked seeing Gudrid's backstory. I think it's clear she's going to join Thorfinn and co. on their adventure, and she's a very interesting character in her own right with good potential for a strong character arc. On Thorfinn's front, it seems that the gang is going to have to delay their adventure to head off in the opposite direction of their goal in order to sell off the narwhal horns for a good sum, enough to fund the colonization of Vinland. The trading and bartering skills Thorfinn will need to acquire will no doubt prove essential assets in the future, so this will likely turn out to be a good experience. Another great chapter with some great plot development.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 14, 2014, 01:02:01 AM
^Wow, I wrote a long ass post this week. I can only imagine how long it would have been if I wrote this on Saturday and all those chapters were fresher in my mind.  :D

Rankings:

1. A Silent Voice - 10/10
2. Magi - 10/10
3. Vinland Saga - 10/10
4. Magi: Adventure of Sinbad - 8/10
5. Attack on Titan: Before the Fall - 8/10
6. Toriko - 8/10
7. Attack on Titan - 8/10
8. Assassination Classroom - 8/10
9. One-Punch Man - 8/10
10. Peephole - 8/10
11. Kuroko's Basketball - 7.5/10
12. The Heroic Legend of Arslan - 7.5/10
13. Hunter X Hunter - 7.5/10
14. Shokugeki no Soma - 7.5/10
15. One Piece - 7/10
16. GTO: Paradise Lost - 7/10
17. Bleach - 5/10
18. Naruto - 1/10

Overall it was a pretty decent week with three really excellent chapters, which is always good to see. This week I don't have much to read because of the Obon holiday in Japan, so hopefully I can get a quality over quantity kind of deal with what I do have.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 14, 2014, 01:47:35 AM
I feel the opposite about HXH and Magi. While I'm not a fan of the overt exposition, I felt that this chapter and the last few in general were more interesting than the first few chapters since the hiatus. The concept of a spy among the Zodiac is interesting, and it's the kind of thing that's right up Kurapika's alley to find out. Again, I don't love these chapters, but if anything was flat, it was the introduction to this arc. Paiute frankly what we got recently was an improvement, even if it's still too dialogue-heavy for its own good.

Magi, on the other hand, has been incredibly tiresome throughout this whole flashback arc. I also felt unsatisfied with the way the author handled the characters transitioning into being members of Al Tharmen. These were characters that had years of history together, so to see them turn on Sheba and kill her without a hint of remorse, guilt, or uncertainty, like it was nothing, just makes them come off as 1-dimensional ass-holes. Putting that aside, the arc just failed to make me care enough about any of the characters, and now that Sheba is dead, I still don't. It's alright from a world-building and mythos-expanding perspective, in suppose, but this was still the most boring arc so far. At least it's almost over, though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 14, 2014, 02:15:29 AM
I thought that the concept of a spy among the Zodiacs was interesting too. Then Kurapika found out who the spy is after a chapter. And when it was done, and now that we know and Kurapika's already got a plan on how to arrest him and stuff...I just can't say I really care about any of it. We don't know anything about Sayu and, frankly, most of the other Zodiacs either. I just think this would have had more impact if we had gotten to know these characters, or at least Sayu, a bit better first. As it stands it just feels like another added plot element amongst more interesting ones I'd rather see focused on.

As for Magi, I dunno, I thought this arc had it's moments. I do agree that it would have been nice to see the other characters be more conflicted about killing Sheba, but considering they had likely already fallen into depravity by this point (and we've seen how that corrupts people's senses of judgement) and Arba is basically an irrational fanatic for Il Illah and shown to be a merciless killer in the past when she slaughtered fake-Elder David and his cronies (she didn't know they weren't the real deals) and how she made a point to yell out about how Sheba was being manipulated by Solomon and stuff was probably to convince the others of her actions and further their already passionate hatred for Solomon, I'm not quite as bothered by it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 14, 2014, 09:53:38 AM
What more interesting ones? We barely know anything about Beyond, either, and he is quite frankly a boring character. We've hardly had any time to devoted to the other plot-lines sans Going and Pariston. As for not knowing about the Zodiacs, it's setting up that we'll learn more about them as they interact in this arc, and that's also technically not true since we have gotten to know 4 of them really well by now. Also, as far as Kurapika using his abilities and trying to maintain trust with who he's informing for, it's interesting not because of who he found out, but for him instead. For one thing, we know he's not doing it out of good will. He is doing it so that they will give him what he wants, which is the prince, so he can get the rest of the Scarlet eyes of his clan. Furthermore it possibly foreshadows future events to come. For instance, Ursula presented his plan to arrest Sayu. Hasn't this series already shown us that things cam skew way out of control from an intended plan the moment something unpredictable interferes? It happened a lot in the YNC,  CA, and CE arcs, so it may be likely to happen here as well. There is plenty interesting with what's going on right now. Granted, it all could have been presented a little better, but I wouldn't call the last few chapters boring, especially compared to what came directly before it.

As for Magi, I'm not really talking about Arba,  who we know was always a fanatic. It's all of Solomon's other close friends and followers. I didn't expect a lot of depth or nuance, but we should have at least seen some transition into their hatred of Solomon. This could have easily been done in a chapter, montaging through scenes of uncertainty in them when it came to turning on Solomon would have made them feel at least a little more human. Instead, just having them be the closest of allies throughout the entire arc and then kill Sheba without so much as a flinch of uneasiness just makes them seem more 1-dimensional and leaves me with no sympathy to see them get any redemption.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 14, 2014, 10:48:12 AM
I never said anything about Beyond. Essentially I'm more interested in Ging and Pariston than any of the Zodiac stuff right now. The 4 Zodiacs we've gotten to know are Kurapika, Leorio, Cheadle, and Mizaistrom, and I care about them, but everyone else is a blank slate right now besides some character trait or two, so I'm not interested in them yet. The only reason Kurapika joined and is helping the Zodiacs is to get to the Prince and take back the scarlet eyes, and this traitor stuff does not add anything to that element which wasn't already shown when Kurapika figured out Pariston's cronies were going to infiltrate the organization through the Hunter Exam and ousted all of them from the exam with his lie-detecting skills. I know everything that is happening now is set-up for things happening later in the arc, and I'm sure when the time comes exciting things will happen when the plan goes awry since they always do in this series, but I'm found the last two or so chapters kind of a chore to read just because of how much information is being thrown out and how much of it involves characters we don't know much about yet, so I'm just having a hard time getting excited for much of this. I have no clue how good the payoff will be, but right now, the set-up is just not doing much for me.

As far as Solomon's followers go, we already saw them resent him for what happened to their comrades when David and co. tricked them and burned everyone in their secret base to a crisp, and then when he replaced Il Illah as god and Sheba explained the concept of destiny to everyone they were bothered by the fact that everything that happened in their lives was pre-destined and now Solomon is control of that. They already had their doubts about him, but now he's essentially in charge of their fates, they felt he was taking away their free will, and I don't think it's too surprising that their resent of Solomon turned to distrust and hated after learning that. Arba was the only one who fought and killed Sheba, and then she made a point to loudly yell about how Sheba was a tragic victim of Solomon's control to everyone around to likely convince any doubters around. It's not really about these characters getting redemption which I don't really care about either. Who knows whether they will or not. Though, I suppose we did see Ithnan sort of regretted what happened when Aladdin met him in Alibaba (anime)/Dunya (manga)'s mind and saw his memories and stuff. But I certainly wouldn't say he was redeemed, by any stretch. Anyway, the main thing is that I just feel that how things played out was consistent with the characters' motivations. Individually, characters like Falan and even Ithnan (who didn't do much in this arc, which disappoints me a little) are pretty one-dimensional. It's not the fact of how these characters in particular betrayed Sheba that I personally like, but rather, I found the idea of how the collective group of Solomon's closest friends and followers all betrayed him after he let them down and lost their trust and Sheba wasn't able to rebuild that and ultimately ended up dying because she was so caught up in fulfilling what she felt to be Solomon's wishes that she wasn't aware of just how much those around her actually resented him and didn't forsee this happening was interesting and shown nicely in the last two chapters.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 14, 2014, 12:31:51 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on August 14, 2014, 10:48:12 AM
I never said anything about Beyond. Essentially I'm more interested in Ging and Pariston than any of the Zodiac stuff right now.

You referred to more interesting "ones" (pleural). What are the other ones BESIDES Ging and Pariston?

QuoteThe 4 Zodiacs we've gotten to know are Kurapika, Leorio, Cheadle, and Mizaistrom

And Pariston and Ging, if you count former ones (actually, I forget if they still count or not).

Quotebut everyone else is a blank slate right now besides some character trait or two, so I'm not interested in them yet.

Well, there are 12 members in all and you expect them all to be characterized within just a few chapters? Of course Togashi is going to take some time to develop the other characters who are important, and not plague himself with developing every single person at the same time. If this series has shown us anything, it's that the characters that need it will get development over the course of the story.

QuoteThe only reason Kurapika joined and is helping the Zodiacs is to get to the Prince and take back the scarlet eyes, and this traitor stuff does not add anything to that element which wasn't already shown when Kurapika figured out Pariston's cronies were going to infiltrate the organization through the Hunter Exam and ousted all of them from the exam with his lie-detecting skills.

This criticism makes absolutely no sense. Of course it doesn't relate to his goal. The whole point of them enlisting Kurapika's help was because he had an ability that they found useful for weeding out spies, which is their interest. In order to get Kurapika to agree, since he had no interest in it, they offered him something in return, which was the key to attaining more of the missing Scalet Eyes. It's a trade of services. It's a natural way to get these characters to work together for the story, which is the point. Why exactly would they have the same common interest?

QuoteI know everything that is happening now is set-up for things happening later in the arc, and I'm sure when the time comes exciting things will happen when the plan goes awry since they always do in this series, but I'm found the last two or so chapters kind of a chore to read just because of how much information is being thrown out and how much of it involves characters we don't know much about yet, so I'm just having a hard time getting excited for much of this. I have no clue how good the payoff will be, but right now, the set-up is just not doing much for me.

You complain about the last 2 chapters but flat-out ignore the fact that the series has been doing this since the Chimera Ant arc? Togashi's writing style for this series has been about setting up rules and twisting them around for interesting situations. It has been this way for a long time, and that includes having dialogue-heavy chapters. How you could enjoy many of the previous chapters that did the same thing but had less interesting concepts (at least at the beginning of this arc) doesn't make any sense to me. Sorry, but I don't think that we can see eye-to-eye on this one. As far as I'm concerned, the last few chapters were definitely an improvement over the boring initial chapters of this arc.

As for Magi, my point is that the concept of the flash-back arc is great, but the execution was poor. That's really all that I have to say about it, at this point. Perhaps if it didn't interrupt what was shaping up to be a really interesting story arc with the summit, I wouldn't have minded it so much, but that's a moot point because the arc is clearly almost over.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 14, 2014, 01:23:04 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 14, 2014, 12:31:51 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on August 14, 2014, 10:48:12 AM
I never said anything about Beyond. Essentially I'm more interested in Ging and Pariston than any of the Zodiac stuff right now.

You referred to more interesting "ones" (pleural). What are the other ones BESIDES Ging and Pariston?

It is basically just Pariston and Ging, seeing how/if Gon recovers his ability to use nen, seeing how Kurapika deals with the 4th prince of Kakin and gets the scarlet eyes back, and the kakin prince succession thing (as far as the concept of it goes, so far).

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 14, 2014, 12:31:51 PM

QuoteThe 4 Zodiacs we've gotten to know are Kurapika, Leorio, Cheadle, and Mizaistrom

And Pariston and Ging, if you count former ones (actually, I forget if they still count or not).

I wasn't counting them, since they aren't a part of the Zodiacs anymore.

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 14, 2014, 12:31:51 PM
Well, there are 12 members in all and you expect them all to be characterized within just a few chapters? Of course Togashi is going to take some time to develop the other characters who are important, and not plague himself with developing every single person at the same time. If this series has shown us anything, it's that the characters that need it will get development over the course of the story.

I'm sure they will get developed later on. And there wasn't much time before this for the lot of them to be developed as it was. My problem was that the traitor among the Zodiacs thing falls flat to me because I don't know most of these characters and their relationships with each other well enough yet. This is a problem that can be retroactively solved once these characters have gotten development and we see how this situation plays out. But as it stands, the fact that I don't know any of that yet doesn't make the traitor thing much of an engaging plot point for me.

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 14, 2014, 12:31:51 PM

This criticism makes absolutely no sense. Of course it doesn't relate to his goal. The whole point of them enlisting Kurapika's help was because he had an ability that they found useful for weeding out spies, which is their interest. In order to get Kurapika to agree, since he had no interest in it, they offered him something in return, which was the key to attaining more of the missing Scalet Eyes. It's a trade of services. It's a natural way to get these characters to work together for the story, which is the point. Why exactly would they have the same common interest?

I never said it related to the goal. I was referring to your comment:

QuoteAlso, as far as Kurapika using his abilities and trying to maintain trust with who he's informing for, it's interesting not because of who he found out, but for him instead. For one thing, we know he's not doing it out of good will. He is doing it so that they will give him what he wants, which is the prince, so he can get the rest of the Scarlet eyes of his clan.

I didn't agree with this justification. Kurapika and his motivations in this arc are interesting to me. However, that doesn't mean that the traitor thing is in itself interesting just because he is a part of it and he uncovered it. It also does not make Kurapika's role in this arc anymore interesting than it already was either, especially since he is not concerned with the Zodiacs and their goals in the Dark Continent at all, and is instead just fulfilling a job that is required of him in order to achieve what he actually cares about doing, retrieving the Scarlet Eyes from the 4th prince. That was what I was trying to get across.

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 14, 2014, 12:31:51 PM
You complain about the last 2 chapters but flat-out ignore the fact that the series has been doing this since the Chimera Ant arc? Togashi's writing style for this series has been about setting up rules and twisting them around for interesting situations. It has been this way for a long time, and that includes having dialogue-heavy chapters. How you could enjoy many of the previous chapters that did the same thing but had less interesting concepts (at least at the beginning of this arc) doesn't make any sense to me. Sorry, but I don't think that we can see eye-to-eye on this one. As far as I'm concerned, the last few chapters were definitely an improvement over the boring initial chapters of this arc.

I'm well aware these kinds of chapters are nothing new for HXH. That doesn't mean they still aren't the most engaging of reading experiences when following this series on a week by week basis. Whether this bothers me when I can reflect on this arc overall remains to be seen. But think of the chapter where Meruem killed that little girl and ate her brain, or the many expository chapters in the Chimera Ant arc. If I was following the series on a weekly basis back then, I probably wouldn't have liked those either. However, I did not have that kind of reading experience with that arc, having been able to read it entirely within three nights, and furthermore, can reflect on things as a whole and consider how things that initially I wasn't all that into ultimately worked out well. Right now, I don't find these individual chapters interesting. I have no clue how things will work out in the future and whether I will ultimately enjoy what this is setting up right now, but I do know I didn't really find these chapters by themselves much fun to read. As far as enjoying the initial chapters more than these ones, I'm not sure where you're getting that from since I never said anything of the sort. I gave the first few chapters since the comeback some slack because the series had been gone for so long and I was satisfied to be reading it at all again. Now that it's been back for over two months, I expect the series to pick up the pace a bit. The chapters I've enjoyed most since the comeback where the initial few involving Kurapika joining the Zodiacs and the ones focusing on Pariston and Ging prominently. These last two or three chapters I haven't enjoyed because I find it hard to care about the traitor plot point and I've become less forgiving of the exposition. But I would say they are improvements over the initial chapters, because there is significantly less exposition and the plot is moving forward much more, and I also do enjoy these chapters more than the initial ones as well. But that enjoyment is relative, and it doesn't mean I found them very fun to read, which is basically what it boils down to for me.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 14, 2014, 02:08:58 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on August 14, 2014, 01:23:04 PMIt is basically just Pariston and Ging, seeing how/if Gon recovers his ability to use nen, seeing how Kurapika deals with the 4th prince of Kakin and gets the scarlet eyes back, and the kakin prince succession thing (as far as the concept of it goes, so far).

The story-line involving the prince is part of the same story-line that you say you're not interested in, though.

QuoteI'm sure they will get developed later on. And there wasn't much time before this for the lot of them to be developed as it was. My problem was that the traitor among the Zodiacs thing falls flat to me because I don't know most of these characters and their relationships with each other well enough yet. This is a problem that can be retroactively solved once these characters have gotten development and we see how this situation plays out. But as it stands, the fact that I don't know any of that yet doesn't make the traitor thing much of an engaging plot point for me.

But you're putting too much emphasis on a plot point that hasn't even had time to develop yet. You focus on the fact that the character who is revealed to be a spy is one that we haven't gotten to know yet, but don't consider that this could also just be a herring since this series is known for that kind of thing. And, even if it isn't, we may get to know his character later and his reasons for being a spy, so I can hardly understand calling it flat when the plot point hasn't even had time to play out, yet. You say the fact that you don't know it yet doesn't make it more interesting, but how do you think plot points like this become interesting in the first place? They are given time to develop. You can hardly blame it on literally just 2 chapters for not miraculously developing the plot point forward when it's meant to span several chapters, otherwise you might as well criticize almost every long-running shounen series of that.

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QuoteI never said it related to the goal. I was referring to your comment:

QuoteAlso, as far as Kurapika using his abilities and trying to maintain trust with who he's informing for, it's interesting not because of who he found out, but for him instead. For one thing, we know he's not doing it out of good will. He is doing it so that they will give him what he wants, which is the prince, so he can get the rest of the Scarlet eyes of his clan.

I didn't agree with this justification. Kurapika and his motivations in this arc are interesting to me. However, that doesn't mean that the traitor thing is in itself interesting just because he is a part of it and he uncovered it. It also does not make Kurapika's role in this arc anymore interesting than it already was either, especially since he is not concerned with the Zodiacs and their goals in the Dark Continent at all, and is instead just fulfilling a job that is required of him in order to achieve what he actually cares about doing, retrieving the Scarlet Eyes from the 4th prince. That was what I was trying to get across.

The you completely misunderstood my post. I was saying that Kurapika as a character and his ultimate goal in the plot is one of the things that has really interested me about the past few chapters. I never used that as justification of what's interesting about the plot point involving the spy, which I've already stated is something that can't just be made interesting in the way that you want it to be that quickly. It needs time to develop, and the reason I'm interested is because I know that Togashi has the ability to make it interesting, which he has done several times before. I find it trivial to blame the past couple of chapters on not further developing a plot point any more than they could given their already limited page count.

QuoteI'm well aware these kinds of chapters are nothing new for HXH. That doesn't mean they still aren't the most engaging of reading experiences when following this series on a week by week basis. Whether this bothers me when I can reflect on this arc overall remains to be seen. But think of the chapter where Meruem killed that little girl and ate her brain, or the many expository chapters in the Chimera Ant arc. If I was following the series on a weekly basis back then, I probably wouldn't have liked those either. However, I did not have that kind of reading experience with that arc, having been able to read it entirely within three nights, and furthermore, can reflect on things as a whole and consider how things that initially I wasn't all that into ultimately worked out well. Right now, I don't find these individual chapters interesting. I have no clue how things will work out in the future and whether I will ultimately enjoy what this is setting up right now, but I do know I didn't really find these chapters by themselves much fun to read. As far as enjoying the initial chapters more than these ones, I'm not sure where you're getting that from since I never said anything of the sort. I gave the first few chapters since the comeback some slack because the series had been gone for so long and I was satisfied to be reading it at all again. Now that it's been back for over two months, I expect the series to pick up the pace a bit. The chapters I've enjoyed most since the comeback where the initial few involving Kurapika joining the Zodiacs and the ones focusing on Pariston and Ging prominently. These last two or three chapters I haven't enjoyed because I find it hard to care about the traitor plot point and I've become less forgiving of the exposition. But I would say they are improvements over the initial chapters, because there is significantly less exposition and the plot is moving forward much more, and I also do enjoy these chapters more than the initial ones as well. But that enjoyment is relative, and it doesn't mean I found them very fun to read, which is basically what it boils down to for me.

The part about reading it weekly is a fair enough point. But, that's just a matter of preference. I still can't bring myself to blame the series for having a weekly release schedule like it's supposed to. Perhaps, if you really feel that a weekly reading schedule doesn't do the story much justice, you would be better off waiting for a cluster of chapters to come out at a time. That's what I decided to do for KnB (granted that I haven't heard good things about the arc, but it still beats reading it on a weekly basis).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 14, 2014, 02:29:07 PM
Those are fair points. It's too early to really judge and I'm being more negative about it than I really should be over what is only a few chapters. I guess it feels longer to me, somehow, maybe because the series took a one-week break between the last two chapters and the latest chapter felt like one of many "decent but not great" chapters from last week which didn't help my opinion of it. One thing I do think that has been a problem with most of the chapters since it's come back is that there is too much expository dialogue, which is probably what's really rubbing me wrong lately, so hopefully that fades away soon.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 14, 2014, 02:42:38 PM
As much as I love the series, it has never been great on a moment by moment basis. However, in evaluating the themes and character development of each story arc, it stands stronger. That said, I do agree about the exposition, but it has been that way for a while. I think that Togashi is still a good writer, but ever since the CA arc it has felt like the series has been lacking in some of the heart that it used to have, and generally that's why I prefer YYH overall as a series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 16, 2014, 03:03:39 PM
Much of the usual stuff I read wasn't updated this week because of the Obon holiday, but I still was able to read some great chapters regardless.

Assassination Classroom chapters 97-98 - Class E has gone above and beyond in demonstrating that they do indeed know how to use the skills they've learned responsibly and are able to help others with them, which wins over the old man they hurt and earns Korosensei's forgiveness. Karasuma is pleased with their work too, and rewards Class E with new combat-ready uniforms to help them in their further assassinations. I love how Erina was the one who suggested that the girls' uniforms look cuter (it's even more hillarious how she wanted them to be nothing but a bra and underwear, at one point), and then everyone points out that the defensive capabilities are much weaker than regular uniforms. The new uniforms definitely look like they are going to be useful, especially since it seems a new serious arc is about to start, as the assassin killer that killed Erina's teacher is now targeting her. Funny, amusing chapters with some good plot development. Plus it's given me a whole new sig! Good work, AC.

Detective Conan chapter 904 - This case doesn't seem too interesting, but it'll probably be resolved next week. But I do wonder how the fish tank and fishing line are a part of this murder and why they were in the pool, since that's kinda wierd. Also, I think it's becoming more obvious that Sera is not really a girl after all. Then again, Aoyama is not usually this blatant with these things, so maybe it's a fake out. I am still positive she's not actually Akai's sister and the little girl is, though.

One-Punch Man chapter 51 - Wow, King is so powerful and intimidating that just his aura is enough to make criminals wet their pants and pass out. That was hilarious. Seems like he's going to be important in this new arc. I'd love to see how he and Saitama get along.

Rin-ne chapter 179 - A lot of the chapters I tent to enjoy most in Rumiko Takahashi's comedies involve her incorporating all the main cast, or at least most of them, in a single event and just letting them play off each other. As such, I got a lot of mileage out of several moments here, and there were some good gags in this one too. However, as most stand-alone Rin-ne chapters tend to be, the concept behind this one was just very mundane and uninteresting, which is nothing new as a problem in this series, but something that I always feel disappointed about, especially when there's a lot of potential in several elements presented here. So kind of a hit and miss chapter, unfortunately.

The Seven Deadly Sins chapter 89 - Ban is back on track and ready to do his job, wastes no time in getting Diane and Gilthunder healed, and leaps into action. King struggles against fighting Helbram, horrified by what's happening to his friend, but Helbram in a very cringe-inducing scene begs for him to kill him before he becomes nothing but a mindless zombie. Poor King just can't get a break, can he? Meanwhile, Meliodas and Hawk take the lead and rush to rescue Elizabeth from Hendricksen. However, they might be too late, as Dreyfus' attack designed to kill Hendricksen went off course when he, get this, tripped from the ground breaking under him (geez, when has something so mundane ever screwed somebody over in a fight in a manga? I can't think of anything else), and his attack swirls out of control and hits Elizabeth instead. I doubt Elizabeth is going to die, but damn, this was completely unexpected and an interesting turn of events. I really wonder how this is going to play out.

Shokugeki no Soma chapter 82 - The reporter character seems to have good intentions after all, earnestly interested in Soma's beef stew. Last week I was confused as to why Soma revealed exactly what he was making to Mimasaka without having any tricks up his sleeve. So I love his reasoning in this chapter. This beef stew is an important dish for him, being the first one that his father allowed on the menu at their restaurant, and something he worked tirelessly to create. Mimasaka might be able to perfectly replicate someone's dishes and go a step beyond, but he has never worked hard or passionately like other chefs to create a entirely new dish from scratch. Soma is challenging Mimasaka to a battle of creativity. They both are on the same level now. Both know what the dish is and what they are making. But the winner of this shokugeki will be the one who is able to perfect the dish beyond the level it already is at, which is no easy task. This is a challenge that will push Soma to think outside the box and utilize his creative thinking skills that we've seen him use before to add new twists to old favorites, while forcing the copycat Mimasaka to truly embrace what it takes to make a great dish instead of his typical research and replication. A really cool conflict that has made this match much more interesting to me than I originally thought it would be. Really, that's the strength of this series, to take a formula that is in many ways standard but add it's own unique twist to it to make it refreshing. Now I'm really looking forward to see what Soma will make while experimenting. It's sure to be something I could never have expected.

Rankings:

1. The Seven Deadly Sins - 10/10
2. Assassination Classroom - 9/10
3. Shokugeki no Soma - 9/10
4. One-Punch Man - 9/10
5. Detective Conan - 7/10
6. Rin-ne - 7/10

A short week, but a quality one. The majority of these chapters were excellent, and the two that weren't were still very entertaining. And I appreciate a small week like this after reading and writing about triple this amount last time. That one took an unexpectedly long time to write.  :sweat:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Pharass on August 17, 2014, 09:29:48 AM
I have now read all the available chapters of Magi: The Labyrinth of Magic and I have to say that I'm impressed. This easily ranks among the best shonen-manga I've read in quite some time. Of course, the setting helps a lot; I've always had a fascination with 1001 Nights-themed settings, ever since I watched Aladdin as a wee tyke. That said, Shinobu Ohtaka also does a great job creating engaging plot-lines and interesting characters.

My favorite story-arc (so far) is The Magnostadt Arc, by the way.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 17, 2014, 09:40:40 AM
Yeah, Magi is great stuff and the Magnostadt is easily the best arc, and what really elevated this series to the next level for me.

Though, as far as the best currently-running shonen manga goes, my votes'd go to Silver Spoon and A Silent Voice.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 23, 2014, 02:34:00 PM
Caught up with some more series this week, so I'll be talking about some of them from now on as well:

A Bride's Story chapter 40 - Anis seems to be very happy to finally find a friend in Shirin, though the reason why she seems drawn to her is a bit odd. I'm not sure exactly what Anis' maid means when she say that she and Shirin have to go through some sort of ceremony to become "sister wives." I mean, the obvious thing would be Anis' husband taking Shirin as a second wife, I guess, but I dunno, maybe it's some different kind of thing they're referring to? I guess we'll see in next months' chapter.

A Silent Voice chapter 49 - I was expecting a shouting match between Ueno and Kawai, but that wasn't the focus of the chapter. Though, we got an amazing scene where Ishida's mom meets Shoko, and can't find anything to say to her, and instead walks away, telling Yuzuru that they can talk once Ishida recovers. But the real meat of the chapter was learning more about Mashiba and seeing him come to terms with himself and the incident this week. And it seems he isn't the confident, upstanding man he appears to be. His motivations, in fact, had been very skewed, dreaming to become a teacher solely to punish the children of those who bullied him, and hanging around Ishida to make himself feel more normal in comparison. However, Ishida's selfless actions have left him thinking about what kind of person he really is and makes him feel guilty and ashamed. Unlike Kawai, who immediately pulls a 180 and agrees to finish the movie only because Mashiba agreed to help, Mashiba genuinely wants to be a better person, and has been encouraged to change his ways following Ishida's example, apologizing to the teacher he beat up in order to help Shoko be able to film at the school. I appreciate this look at Mashiba, and it seems next week, we'll be coming back to Ueno. I wonder if she'll be able to suck up her pride and change her ways too? 

Assassination Classroom chapter 99 - The students try their best to cheer up Bitch-sensei by getting Karasuma to give her flowers for her birthday. However, Karasuma is no romantic and says some things that give away that it was the students' plan and not his own, which pisses her off. Karasuma isn't clueless about how she feels about him, but there is no room for love in their field, and if Erina can't handle that, than she will need to be replaced. And of course, flower shop guy is an assassin and he's gunning for Bitch-sensei. Why am I not surprised? This is shaping up to be a fun storyline. I wonder if flower shop guy is the assassin that's been taking out all those other ones, including Erina's former teacher, Lovos? Should be interesting to see how this plays out.

Berserk chapter 336 - Rickert learns of Griffith's army of apostles, and that's really all that happens in this chapter. I know Rickert wants to hear the truth of what happened to the Band of the Hawk straight from Griffith's lips, but he may be in way over his head. Also, even though Griffith is now a king as he's always wanted to be, I feel that his ambition is far from quenched. I would not be surprised if he tries to expand his empire. Surely, his army of apostles are restless for some bloodshed. Anyway, I wonder what Rickert will do now, and hopefully next month's chapter gives some development on that front.

Black Butler chapter 96 - The Green Witch has completed the ultimate spell, which should calm down all the werewolves now, which is super. But, unfortunately, Ciel and Sebastian have successfully tricked her in coming along with them to visit the queen. Ha ha ha...she is so screwed. Poor girl.

Bleach chapter 593 - Looks like Hitsugaya got caught in a groundhog day-esque loop. And it also looks like he's now dead. Maybe. I dunno, Mayuri is a psycopath, I wouldn't put it past him or anything. But Hitsugaya is like the most popular character of this series in Japan, so I kinda doubt he'd be killed off in such an unceremonious manner.

Fairy Tail: Zero chapter 2 - I wasn't planning on sticking with this series, because I hate FT and all that, but I checked out this chapter and liked it well enough to give it some more of my time. Mavis is a fun and likable character and it was cool seeing her outwit a guy 10 years her senior in a battle of wits. This story of how the Fairy Tail guild came to be might prove more interesting than I thought.

Fuuka chapter 27 - Looks like a lot of people have come out to the school fair, not really to see the band, but to see Koyuki who they expected to attend (an she has), and heckle Yuu for being in such a close relationship with her (hoo-boy, fanboys are so fucking crazy). And it looks like some hot-shot U.S. singer has caught wind of the fact Koyuki will be there and will attend as well. Hmm, wonder where that'll go. In any case, the band is not afraid of the hecklers or mad at Yuu, and they are going to give their performance everything they've got, which should make for one interesting concert, if nothing else. Will they be able to win these people over with their music? Guess we'll see.

Kuroko's Basketball chapter 274 - And so, through the teamwork of Kuroko and Kagami, Seirin scores the rebound and beats Rakuzan just as the time runs out. Yep, it's over. This match is finally over. Seririn has one. They shoudn't have, honestly, but they did, fine. So...is the series going to end soon? The end of the chapter promises at things winding down, so I guess so. In any case, there's really no where to go from here without the series going to POT-esque levels of ridiculousness, so it might as well end. For what it's worth, I liked this chapter and ending to the match just fine, but that doesn't change how the match as a whole was a complete mess with a sever lack of genuine tension and and often times infuriating or just plain boring to read. Very disappointing to be perfectly honest. Too bad.

Magi chapter 235 - I was surprised that Wahid sacrificed himself to summon the Medium. I guess he's not alive in the current timeline, then. I liked finally seeing how the djinns were created (and who the djinns were originally), and I guess Ugo was the one who ended up creating a new world, which is cool to know. Looks like this arc has at most one chapter left, and then we'll get back to the present. I'll be curious to see the reactions of Sinbad and Kouen, among others, to this story.

Murcielago chapters 7-9 - And so the Murder Party ends in a whole bout of bloody, over the top fun. I wonder if the maid is going to be a recurring character now? Probably.

Naruto chapter 689 - I do like how all three of Team 7 has dealt a final(?) blow on Kaguya. It's not particularly well-done considering the mess that is Sasuke's character arc and how useless a character Sakura has been the entire series, but whatever, fine. Hopefully this battle is close to being over. I'm fucking sick of Kaguya and Zetsu and their bland bland blandness. Their still is that whole thing that the sage of six paths was going to do to help that hasn't happened yet, though, so....I dunno.

One Piece chapter 757 - I don't like how Rebecca is suddenly afraid to fight Diamante for some reason, but Kyros coming to her aid and father and daughter reunited was a nice moment. Hopefully both of them work together to take Diamante down. The other action in this chapter was very fun as well, so overall, this was an enjoyable chapter.

Peephole chapter 36 - Woah-oh, Yawagiwa knows something's up with Kurosu and that he knows more about her brother's disappearance than he lets on, and she seems crazy enough to bug 'em about him enough for him to slip up and find the truth. I wonder if this lead to a fun battle of crazy wits between Yawagiwa and Miyachi? That could be fun.

Silver Spoon chapter 105 - Oh man, I was dying of laughter from the three pages where Nishkawa was explaining all the different types of potatoes with anime-girl analogues. Amazing. Hopefully Hachiken and Oikawa can get things in order to see their pizza, and Hachiken gets to show his stuff in a horse race.

Space Brothers chapter 233 - Now this was a much better done sentimental chapter, with Mutta reflecting on how much Sharon's guidance has led him down his current path, and vowing to keep his promise to her. That said, I hope to see some more plot development come next time.

Toriko chapter 289 - Air has been successfully prepared. Awesome. I wonder if they'll have to give it up to satiate Heracles, though?

Rankings:

1. Silver Spoon - 10/10
2. A Silent Voice - 10/10
3. Assassination Classroom - 9/10
4. Murcielago - 9/10
5. A Bride's Story - 9/10
6. Fuuka - 8/10
7. Berserk - 8/10
8. Magi - 8/10
9. Toriko - 8/10
10. Peephole - 8/10
11. One Piece - 8/10
12. Space Brothers - 8/10
13. Kuroko's Basketball - 8/10
14. Black Butler - 8/10
15. Fairy Tail Zero - 8/10
16. Bleach - 4/10
17. Naruto - 3/10

Good week. Only two chapters below an 8/10. That's something I'd sure like to see more often.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 23, 2014, 03:20:26 PM
That One Piece chapter downright pissed me off. Seriously, Oda? You build up Rebecca as someone who can actually fight, and then when faced with the guy who claims to have murdered her mother, she breaks down and cries for "Soldier-San" to save her. In previous appearances, we at least saw that she was very willing to fight for herself, even if she was outmatched. In this case, despite her opponent being stronger, it would have made more sense to see her get angry and at least try to fight back. Instead she just cowers like a cliche damsel in distress. That's REALLY bad characterization, and it comes from a writer who should know better by now. :srs:

On another note, I hear that the match between Seirin and Rakuzan is finally done, so I'll probably catch up with the manga pretty soon, but I'm honestly not expecting much based on what I've heard about it. It seems like Tadatoshi tried to capture the magic of the Shohoku vs. Sannoh match from Slam Dunk with this one, but failed miserably at it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Rynnec on August 23, 2014, 04:11:33 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 23, 2014, 03:20:26 PM
That One Piece chapter downright pissed me off. Seriously, Oda? You build up Rebecca as someone who can actually fight, and then when faced with the guy who claims to have murdered her mother, she breaks down and cries for "Soldier-San" to save her. In previous appearances, we at least saw that she was very willing to fight for herself, even if she was outmatched. In this case, despite her opponent being stronger, it would have made more sense to see her get angry and at least try to fight back. Instead she just cowers like a cliche damsel in distress. That's REALLY bad characterization, and it comes from a writer who should know better by now. :srs:

Ugh, that's almost worst than Naruto.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 23, 2014, 06:38:16 PM
Yeah, it was weird that Rebecca is so afraid of Diamante when in the Colosseum she didn't back down against him at all. Running away and crying for Kyros to rescue her was completely out of character for her. I didn't enjoy how Oda handled that at all, though, it didn't "piss me off" because...I dunno, I don't care about Rebecca all that much I guess. When Ussop ran away during the fight with Sugar, THAT pissed me the fuck off more than I had ever been at anything in OP because it destroyed years of character development for who was my favorite character in the series, and so this didn't seem quite as bad in comparison to me, since Rebecca is such a minor and not terribly interesting character. Though, hopefully she at least helps out in the fight against Diamante with Kyros. If she just sits back and lets him do all the fighting, then I'll be pretty steamed.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 23, 2014, 07:01:40 PM
I don't care about Rebecca as a character, either. It pisses me off because it's flat-out terrible writing. Oda just wants to make a touching moment of Kyros coming to rescue his daughter, which would be fine if she was staying in-character, fighting back, and just happened to be losing because Diamante is way above her level, and Kyros came in before he could finish her off. Having her cry for him to save her without even so much as raising her sword in her own defense makes her look like every generic damsel in distress ever, and while I don't care about the character, I'm sick of this stupid-ass archetype, and I'm really disappointed in someone like Oda for using it. Even if the series has been down in quality from its prime for a while, I still consider moments like this to be an extreme low for a writer who was clearly capable of far better material than this.

Even Nami, who was never much of a fighter, never acted as pathetic as this in a fight.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 23, 2014, 08:24:41 PM
No arguments there. It is bad writing. It just didn't bother me quite as much, compared to some other bad writing bits that have happened in the arc, and really, since post-timeskip. That isn't to defend it, but to just explain why I, personally, did not become "pissed off" by it, though I was very annoyed.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 23, 2014, 08:53:54 PM
Yeah, Oda has really been in a slump since the time-skip. I just wish that he could somehow get things back up to the level of quality as they were in the CP9 arc as far as Luffy AND his crew go. As much as I loved the Impel Down and Marineford arc, I have to wonder if they may have been detrimental to the quality of the series in the long-run, seeing as how Oda can't seem to properly write for the other Straw Hats anymore. I think that instead of the next arc trying to outdo this one and all previous ones by being bigger in scope, perhaps he should try and throw a curve ball into the formula by going for a smaller-scale but more personal arc, much like Arlong Park or Drum Island. I believe that it may help him reconnect with some of the characters. I think that, right now, he's a bit too focused on making his story more big and epic with each chapter that he may be losing that personal touch and charm that made it so appealing in the first place.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 23, 2014, 09:11:57 PM
It's unfortunate, but I really do think going two+ years without writing any of the Straw Hats except Luffy has made Oda unable to write the crew well, or give them all something meaningful to do in the arc, which he was able to do quite well in the pre-Whitebeard War arcs. Increasing the scale of the conflict and adding a whole bunch of new characters doesn't help things either, since he's juggling all of them and all these separate plot threads and it has just mostly amounted to an underwhelming mess so far. Like you, I'd prefer a smaller scale arc where he devotes more time to the Straw Hats, and makes the conflicts more personal like he did with the CP9 arc, which would hopefully help him get back in touch with how to write them as well as he used to.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 27, 2014, 10:29:04 AM
Apparently the next Kuroko chapter will be the final one. That sounds about right. I don't think the series has anywhere left to go after that game with Rakuzan, anyway. Overall, I did enjoy the series, even if I was let down by the final game and a few parts of the story after the rematch with To'oh. It was still a pretty decent and entertaining sports series for most of it's run.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 29, 2014, 11:30:40 AM
What's this? A new One Piece chapter that I actually liked? Yeah, this is one of the better chapters that I've read in a long time. It had a single focus, and while it didn't move the plot forward too much, it did justice to one of the Straw Hat pirates. Usopp was actually in character this time and totally made himself useful by sniping out Sugar from an insane distance before she could get to Luffy. Additionally, having him claim that he will support Luffy and his crew, even if he doesn't get noticed for it, felt like the slightest bit of character growth for him. Nicely done, Oda. Now, if only you could actually keep this up for more than just a single chapter. One can only wish. Regardless, this chapter felt like classic One Piece to me, which I haven't felt from this series in far too long.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 29, 2014, 07:15:49 PM
As for Magi, on the other hand, please wrap this shit up already. I was sure that this would be the last chapter of this arc, but it seems like it'll be at least another 2 chapters now to see what other shit will go wrong for Ugo before this is all done. I get that this flash-back is important to the story, but I think it would have been smarter for the author to find a way to reveal this to is in bits and pieces throughout the story, rather than force the whole thing on us at once.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 31, 2014, 11:52:08 AM
This was a good week of manga, overall, but I've had a tiring week, so forgive me for being brief here:

A Silent Voice chapter 50 - This chapter featured a great exploration into Ueno's character: why she likes Ishida, why she hates Shoko, and why she behaves the way she does. I find it interesting, and realistic, and Ueno doesn't change her mind about Shoko and join the movie project. There's plenty of people who simply can't let grudges go. But it was nice that she does end up helping her anyway, giving her the number for a sound production team, after being won over bu Shoko's determination. I don't know if this is the last we'll see of Ueno, but if it was, it was a good resolution to that conflict and her character arc.

Assassination Classroom chapter 100 - A hundred chapters! Yeah, so Flower Shop Guy is the assassin killer, though it turns out Lovro is still alive, though he's laying low for now. I was thinking that they'd show Irina fight him or something first before being subdued, but looks like we're jumping straight into a rescue mission. I'm curious as to the Reaper's ability to make people feel at ease even though he's threatening them. It sort of reminds me of what made Nagisa an effective assassin, in a way, except more refined. Perhaps this encounter with someone very similar to him will help hone Nagisa's assassination skills even further. 

Bleach chapter 594 - I have no clue if Mayuri is trying to cure Hitsugaya or not. Dude's a fucking sadist. Either way, I'm kind of annoyed that Rangiku, Kensei, and Rose are all zombies now, apparently. Not only that, but it appears that the effin' Privarion Arrancar are going to fight and probably defeat them? C'mon Kubo, Rangiku is one thing, but Kensei and Rose were captains, I can't buy that the Privarion Arrancar are going to be match for them. But the real issue is that Kubo has killed off major character unceremoniously and are now using them tactlessly as more fighting pawns to drag out this battle further. Goddamit, I don't care about these characters, but they were actually developed/characterized and had a significant role in the story thus far. This shouldn't be just an "oh, looks like this happened, too bad" kind of thing. Whatever. At least the other battle is ending fast enough, with the Pepe guy looking like he's wiping the floor with both his enemies and allies with his weird ability to make people fall in love and obey him. Now that may prove a bit more amusing to see played out, especially if Byakuya falls victim.

Fuuka chapter 28 - Looks like the gang is going to win over people with their performance, and attract the interest of the american celebrity. Good stuff.

Girl May Kill chapters 15-16 - So the kid assassin was not Mei's little brother, but was instead a kid that Manome left alive back in his old days as an operative, unable to shoot him. The kid grew up and joined Dragon's Beard to get revenge on Manome, and dang, he succeeded. Manome is...dead. I didn't see that coming. The kid is dead too, which I did sort of see coming, but it's still kind of sad since he had a tragic story behind him. But man, with their leader dead, I wonder what Gohongi, Katsura, and Mei are going to do now. Especially since Mei's brother is a member of Dragon's Beard, and a high-ranking operative, unafraid to let his sister get killed. Dang, the guys are looking pretty screwed. At the very least, it looks like they'll need a new hideout, and Gohongi is going to need to get another job.

Joshi Kausei chapter 19 - The group makes rice balls. Hilarity ensues. There really isn't that much to say about this one. Cute chapter.

Magi chapter 236 - Hmm, I thought this would be the last chapter of this flashback arc, but I guess there's still more. I guess it was nice seeing how Ugo managed to create peace among the races while he bid time to make preparations ready for the creation of a new world. But even I am getting a bit impatient to get back to the main storyline again.

Magi: Adventure of Sinbad chapters 31-32 - Great chapters. It was interesting seeing how Sinbad met and became friends with the King of Balbadd, and used his storytelling skills to finance his firm and earn the King's financial backing. Very cool stuff.

Naruto chapter 690 - Wow. So, Kaguya and Zetsu are dead then. The battle is over. It's finally over. Fin-a-fucking-ly. Of course, Madara is still alive (though unconscious), but I doubt we'll be seeing him fight again. Rather, he'll probably have some bullshit redemption scene, but whatever, I don't care as long as this series ends faster. Crossing my fingers for it being gone by the end of the year.

One Piece chapter 758 - Finally, a legitimately great chapter of OP, the first in a long, long time. Better yet, Ussop was totally in character here, nice to see after Rebecca was so out of character last chapter. Totally felt like a classic chapter of OP. If only Oda could make chapters like this more often, these days.

Orange chapter 13 - Meh...last chapter it seemed like the plot was going to move forward what with everyone receiving the letters and all, but now were back to bland shojo romance antics. Not bad stuff, but just kinda boring.

The Seven Deadly Sins chapter 90 - Well, it looks like the demon-transformed Knights can be reverted by some means, as Ban and Gouther were able to successfully save Guila and Jericho's lives. But it seems Hendricksen has defeated both Dreyfus and Griamor, and Elizabeth is slowly dying. At this point, I'm wondering if Meliodas will reach in time to stop his plans.

Shokugeki no Soma chapter 83 - Soma seems to have missed the point of the contest, somehow. Will Erina really help him out and help him devise a new variant on his dish, one that can defeat Mimasaka's? It'll be interesting to see them work together.

Toriko chapter 290 - And so a new Horse King is born! Seems like Heracles will spare Toriko and co.'s life in exchange for Air, a good result, though I'm wondering if a Nitro or something is going to come now and screw things up for everyone.

Vinland Saga chapter 107 - I feel bad for Gudrid, being forced to marry some guy and give up on her dream of sailing the seas just because she's a woman and stuff. But it looks like she fucked up and stabbed Sig, so know she's in a whole lot of trouble. This'll probably lead her to escaping and joining up with Thorfinn and co., through some way.

Rankings:

1. A Silent Voice - 10/10
2. One Piece - 10/10
3. Girl May Kill - 9/10
4. Fuuka - 9/10
5. The Seven Deadly Sins - 9/10
6. Magi: Adventure of Sinbad - 8.5/10
7. Assassination Classroom - 8.5/10
8. Vinland Saga - 8.5/10
9. Shokugeki no Soma - 8/10
10. Toriko - 8/10
11. Magi - 8/10
12. Joshi Kausei - 7.5/10
13. Orange - 6.5/10
14. Naruto - 1/10
15. Bleach - 1/10

Some good developments this week.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 31, 2014, 12:01:20 PM
Yeah, One Piece took me by surprise this time. It felt just like a classic, pre-Amazon Lily arc chapter. It also had a character gag that, while not necessarily that funny, felt fresh and worked in Usopp's favor. Too bad we don't get more chapters like this in OP's current run.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 01, 2014, 12:29:37 PM
So, Kuroko no Basket is finally complete. Overall, I found the last match to be disappointingly underwhelming. I really did think that the series was best when it didn't go too over-the-top, which was mostly up until the re-match with To-oh. The match with Yosen was pretty boring, but then the re-match with Kaijou was actually well-done, and not that over the top. Then we got a flash-back arc, which I usually don't like, but it was decent enough, although a bit dragged out. Finally we wrapped up with this match, and the biggest problem is that (outside of the over the top techniques and whatnot, which I might have been able to overlook) this series really didn't do a good job of building up its characters, at all. It's one of those sports series that cares more about the glory of the actual game than the characters participating in it, and THAT is the true weakness of the final match. I just didn't care if Seirin won or not. Realizing that this was the end, I thought about how this should be the epic climax of each of the main characters' personal arcs, but the characters never really evolved in this series. Less experienced readers would assume that just becoming better players is evolving, but those who have read better manga in the genre know otherwise. Slam Dunk is the perfect example of how to do thus manga the right way. Nobody was especially complex, but each of the main characters had arcs that were followed throughout the entire series, and upon finally getting to the climactic battle with Sannoh, it was an emotional arc as much as it was an exciting one, as each character was reaching the pinnacle of their development, not just in terms of skill, but in terms of their actual "character" as well. Comparatively, Kuroko, just like many other sports manga, just fall flat in the end when we don't really feel that invested in the characters by the end. In that regard, we really wanted to see Shouhoku in a Slam Dunk win because we wanted to see the characters triumph.

Putting that aside, I did still enjoy the manga on the whole. Would I read it again? Perhaps....but certainly not any time within the next few years. Yet, I can't deny that I did enjoy more about this manga than I didn't. It's more that the final match left a sour taste in my mouth, and less that the entire manga is poorly written, which it's not, outside of the weaker matches.

My Overall  Series Rating: 7/10 (flawed, but still above average)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 01, 2014, 03:06:30 PM
I enjoyed KnB, for the most part. At the start I found the premise interesting; in that Kuroko did not aim to be the best player, since there was no way he really could, but instead use his own skills to be the best teammate there is, and help Kagami become the best player he could be. I thoroughly enjoyed the story up until after the rematch with To-oh. After that, the series started to rely a bit more on the gimmicks, or at least blew them up to much more unbelievable and superpower-y proportions. But the real problem was the series started to lose track of the character arcs, and what is at stake for this team and characters. It became more about making the games more exciting and over the top, whereas the tension shouldn't have come from just the players' skills, but also what they were going through emotionally. And it all completely fell apart in the final match. There was no sense of what was at stake, and no sense of what it represented for the characters. They didn't truly change or reach the pinnacle of their character development, like in Slam Dunk, and things just felt like a wash the whole way through. And Akaishi's character and character arc was super annoying. I don't think I've ever been so annoyed by an antagonist in a manga or anime quite as much as him. He acts so unrealistically and says such groan-worthy things throughout the series that it goes to far for me to retain my suspension of disbelief at many points. I felt his character was the weakest written part of the series, and it certainly didn't help things much in the final match. Overall, I would say I enjoyed more of the series than I didn't, but it's not something I think I'll ever re-read again.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 04, 2014, 12:27:44 PM
Geez, the new Hunter X Hunter chapter is delayed for yet another week.  ::) I fully expect Togashi will take a long hiatus after it finally comes out.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 04, 2014, 12:32:36 PM
I guess he's taking too much time to be the editor for other people's manga. :sly:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 04, 2014, 12:50:50 PM
As for One Piece, while I didn't like it as much as the last chapter (probably because that one took me by surprise since it was the best chapter that I had read in a long time), this is the second chapter in a row that I liked better than average. Interestingly enough, it also had many classic elements of OP in it, such as Luffy confronting the villain and getting pissed at how he's treating his own subordinate, even though Bellamy used to be his enemy. At the same time, though, it had its own twist to it with Doflamingo purposely doing that to make Luffy angry so that he would screw up, which Law pointed out to Luffy after he rashly attacked Doflamingo and accidentally hit Bellamy when Doflamingo used him as a human shield. The strategy that he and Law used to attack Doflamingo was also really clever and made it feel satisfying to finally see Luffy deliver a huge gut-punch to the guy.

Also, the artwork wasn't sporadic at all in this chapter. It was simple and the action was easy to follow. There were no overly-grand-scale spreads or cluttered panels that made it harder to keep up with what was going on, so the chapter had a nice flow to it.

I don't want to jinx it by saying anything prematurely, but is it possible that Oda might just be slowly regaining his momentum after so many years? To be clear, I didn't love this chapter or the last one in the grand scheme of things, but relative to what we've been getting since the time-skip, they are the first 2 way better than average chapters that I have read from this series in a long time, and this is the first time that I'm really, genuinely interested in reading the next chapter since the time-skip. I really do hope that this isn't just a lucky coincidence, and that Oda is indeed getting his act together.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 06, 2014, 11:08:12 AM
Lots of things "ended" in the manga world this week:

A Silent Voice chapter 51 - This was a fantastic look into Shoko's perspective and how she perceives her surroundings, as well as her regrets for how things turned out and her longing for a normal, happy childhood. Very moving, powerful stuff. I'm a bit confused as to where Shoko is going at the end of the chapter. In the dream she had it seemed Ishida was going to die. Maybe she's going to visit him again. That could lead a very emotional moment, especially if Ishida wakes up soon.

Assassination Classroom chapter 101 - Geez, the God of Death guy is one creepy mofo. I loved how the students are outwitting him and playing a stealth game, but it's going to be interesting to see if they can beat a guy who's killed professional assassins.

Black Butler chapter 96.5 - I guess this filler-y chapter was meant to commemorate the end of the Book of Circus anime. Personally, reading through this chapter I couldn't help but be reminded how all these characters died in horrible, brutal ways and how Ciel burned all those children to death at the end of the arc. It's kind of hard to go back and look at a scene where they are all friendly-like with each other considering how Ciel basically kills them all without remorse later on and stuff. Otherwise, the chapter is just a kinda lame story, so meh.

Bleach chapter 595 - Byakuya can't fall under Pepe's spell because he is incapable of love. Uh huh, sure, okay. And Pepe is already taken down thanks to...zombie Kensei and Rose? Huh? Whatever. At this point, who's left? Just Giselle, then? Well, at least we are ending these battles quickly, though anti-climatically. I bet the editors are pressuring Kubo to pick up the pace and end the series sooner rather than later. Hey, works for me.

Fuuka chapter 29 - And so the concert wins over the haters. Classic music series trope, but a good one. I didn't expect Fuuka to invite Koyuki to sing on stage with them. I wonder what this will lead to. Though, I'm fully expecting Fuuka and Koyuki to become rivals, albeit friendly rivals.

Kuroko no Basket chapter 275 - I already gave my thoughts on the series as a whole earlier in the week, so I won't say any of that stuff again. But as a final chapter, this felt anti-climactic. Basically just the usual congrats-let's play each other again promise, and then some eh comedy bits that try to tell us where the team will go from here, and then leaving the series off on a scene that I do like, but doesn't scream finality. Mmm. I dunno, I would have liked some more emotional moments, resolutions to some characters' arcs like Hyuuga and Kiyoshi, and stuff. Too bad. See ya, KnB. It was a fun, interesting ride.

Magi chapter 237 - Oh, looks like this flashback arc is finally over! Looks like I was right about this lasting until the end of the summer after all. I did enjoy this chapter, how the dungeons and metal vessels were set up, explanations for how all the people in the Magi world came to be, and then a look into the events leading up to the beginning of the series. Good stuff. Now to see everybody's reactions to this story. I'm sure it gave both Sinbad and Kouen a few ideas...

Naruto chapter 691 - And with this, it's over. Finally. After four years. Four long years. The war arc is over. It's over. OVERRRR!!!! Everything has been resolved. Madara even got his half-assed redemption moment like I expected he would! All that's left now is Naruto vs. Sasuke. Who knows how long that will last, but I'm placing my bets that the series will end by the end of the year, so probably not too long. As for this chapter, I want to appreciate what it's trying to do, but because I'm so thoroughly un-invested, it's all just a wash to me.

One Piece chapter 759 - This felt like a classic villain-confrontation chapter. Good scenes, pacing, and focus, and the action in this chapter was straightforward and effective, unlike it has been in recent chapters. Nice stuff. Hopefully the rest of the battle can be like this chapter and be a fun experienc.e

One-Punch Man chapter 52 - Oh, right. I forgot King was a poser who is actually super weak. Dunno why I didn't remember that. Either way, since Saitama and Genos are there, he's probably going to be bailed out again. I wonder how he's going to figure into this new arc?

Peephole chapter 37 - Uh oh, looks like Yawagiwa knows Kurosu knows something about her brother's disappearance and has got the police officer to come and inspect his room. This sure won't turn out well for him. Unless, Miyachi can somehow get away with killing or diverting both of them...

The Seven Deadly Sins chapter 91 - Ouch, poor Dreyfus and Griamor. They got curb-stomped at the end there. But now all the Sins have arrived to fight Hendricksen and stop him from reviving the demon clan! Can they beat him? Probably not, unless Meliodas taps into his own demonic powers...

Shokugeki no Soma chapter 84 - Huh, Erina didn't help Soma after all. She's such a jerk. But her words did make Soma think over what he was trying to do, and when Nikumi arrived with various cuts of beef, he's come up for a new variant on his beef curry stew. But what is it? That's what I want to find out. Of course, the way Cooking manga work, the losing dish is always presented first, so it's gonna be a few chapters, but I'm excited to see Soma totally beat Mimaska at his own game.

Space Brothers chapter 234 - I'm glad the series is back on track plot-wise. I don't know what happened to Mosh, but I guess he's out of the mission? Or maybe it's just this photo-shoot. I do want to see Carlos return to the team, but I don't expect he's the "replacement." But I guess we'll find out in the next chapter.

Toriko chapter 291 - Whoa! Toriko has added Air as the salad to his Full Course! Fuck yeah, that's awesome! I can't believe things turned out so well for them, but know both Joy, Midora, and the other Beast Kings know they are in the Gourment world, so things won't go so smoothly for them later on. Still, a great moment, a great moment, and a great end to this arc.

Rankings:

1. A Silent Voice - 10/10
2. Assassination Classroom - 9/10
3. One-Punch Man - 9/10
4. Magi - 9/10
5. One Piece - 8.5/10
6. Shokugeki no Soma - 8.5/10
7. Toriko - 8.5/10
8. Fuuka - 8/10
9. The Seven Deadly Sins - 8/10
10. Space Brothers - 8/10
11. Kuroko no Basket - 7/10
12. Peephole - 7/10
13. Black Butler - 6/10
14. Naruto - 3/10
15. Bleach - 1/10

Overall, a pretty darn good weak. I'm satisfied.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 10, 2014, 11:08:20 AM
Odd. This week's chapter was cut short of the usual page count. Perhaps Oda fell behind schedule. At any rate, not much happened this week, but it looks like we'll finally be learning more about Doflamingo's past. We already knew that he was a Celestial Dragon, but now we have a clearer idea of his goal to take out the Celestial Dragons. I always find it interesting when one villain wants to take out another bad guy or group of them, albeit for the wrong reasons. In this case it makes Doflamingo a little more interesting, which was really needed since he wasn't catching my interest at all throughout this entire arc.

Anyways, it was a mostly average chapter again. I'm not surprised, though, as I couldn't expect Oda to keep up the quality of the last 2 chapters, but I really was hoping that they were the beginning of a streak of great ones for him. I'm still hoping that we get more chapters like those, but for now, it was just serviceable.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 12, 2014, 10:14:23 AM
Huh, looks like the Tokyo Ghoul manga is ending. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/09/12-1/tokyo-ghoul-manga-concludes) Bet the anime producers wished they hadn't blasted through the material as quickly as they did now. I've been meaning to keep up with this series, so maybe I'll start it around October, since it would be amusing to have a horror manga to read for Halloween-time.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 12, 2014, 07:33:09 PM
So, Magi finally got back to the present day story-line. It looks like Aladdin is attempting to get the 3 major kingdoms to agree to a truce, even if only temporarily, to unite against the common threat of Al Tharmen. I have a feeling that the Kou Empire will be the one holding out if this doesn't go down, otherwise they will all agree but will still be double-dealing behind each others's backs as none of them will outright trust each other, which will probably surface as a problem later on as a major weakness for Al Tharmen to exploit.

In all honesty, though, I want to go back to Alibaba's side of the story and see what happens in regard to his status with ruling Balbadd. That was interesting, and part of me believes that he would be willing to cut a deal with the Kou Empire since it means a lot to him to be the for his homeland, even if the cost for doing so is not something that he would like on a personal level.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 13, 2014, 10:47:31 AM
Hmm, I just found out that History's Strongest Disciple Kenichi ended this week. I've never read it, don't really plan to, but I know Spark and E-K have mentioned it before and hate it, so I felt that was worth mentioning.

Claymore is ending next month as well. It's interesting that quite a few long-running shonen titles are starting to end around the same time.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 13, 2014, 11:20:43 AM
I heard about that a while ago. I used to keep up with that series because when it started out, it was a generic but still amusing shounen series. Then after the D of D arc it just went from kind of decent to absolutely shit, and stayed that way until I finally dropped it. From what I've heard from people who kept with it, the manga just stayed shitty until the very end. Perhaps one day I will write an article about it in terms of how NOT to write a good shounen manga. It's the perfect template for everything wrong with modern long-running shounen manga, in general.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Avaitor on September 13, 2014, 04:57:33 PM
Now I'm reminded that I haven't read Claymore in years.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 13, 2014, 05:22:38 PM
Tired, so these will all be pretty brief comments. But, I have to say that this was a pretty enjoyable week for me:

A Silent Voice chapter 52 - Oh man, this was a powerful chapter. Completely wordless until the end, as Shoko runs towards the balcony where she almost tried to commit suicide and reflects on everything that's happened, and then runs to the bridge where she and Shoya used to meet, and then breaks down in tears. And then, at the same time she does, Shoya finally rewakens in the hospital. Moving stuff. I can't wait to see their reunion next week.

Attack on Titan chapter 61 - Hoo-wee, looks like Erwin's gambit paid off! The Police Corps are now aware of the government's corruption and selfish nature, and has turned on it in a military coup. This means that Levi and co. are no longer wanted criminals, and they can focus on rescuing Eren and Historia much easier. Speaking of which, it seems that they've been caught up in some kind of weird ritual. Wonder what's up with that.

Attack on Titan: Before the Fall chapter 9 - Aw man, Kyukuro's gambit failed. It was a good effort though. The action scenes in this chapter were phenomenal. It looks like Kyukuro is going to join up with the Survey Corps starting in the next chapter. It'll be interesting to see how his experiences with the Titans from this point on will lead him to create the 3-D maneuver gear.

Bleach chapter 596 - So, Kensei and Rose are actually dead then? I mean, they were dead to begin with, what with them being Soul Reapers and all, but then they died again, so are they the living un-dead dead now, or something? And Mayuri is just going to be controlling them like puppets from now on? Will Hitsugaya be like that now too? Geez, that's kinda sad. I dunno who gave a shit about those guys, but it's kinda callous to just make them brainless puppets for their own team so unceremoniously. And they are immune to Pepe's power because, being Mayuri's zombies, they are incapable of love. That...that's actually kind of amusing. Pepe's reaction did kind of sell that for me there. So, this guy's done now. What's her name Sternritter will probably off him. At least we're plowing through these guys fast now. Way better than when we had to spend three months to see Kenpachi take out fucking Gremmy.

Detective Conan chapters 905-906 - Grrr...I wish Conan could have met Sera's sister in this case so we could keep up the plot development. Oh well, it seems this new case might reveal some info on Rum. I mean, I doubt any of these suspects are actually Rum him/herself, but perhaps one of them or the victim had a connection to him/her or something. On the whole, a solid conclusion chapter for a case and a solid opening chapter for a case. An extra half-point for the Urusei Yatsura reference.

Fairy Tail Zero chapter 3 - I'm liking Mavis as a protagonist. She's smart and witty with a good sense of humor. Also she's not bland like the stereotypical shonen protagonist these days *cough* like Natsu *cough*, which helps things. I love how she outwitted that guy in the truth and lie game. So it looks like she's going to be joining up with the Treasure Hunters to get back the Tenrou Jade. This could prove fun. Then again, this is Fairy Tail, so I'm ready to bail the second it turns to shit, but it has been surprisingly enjoyable so far. I'm willing to see where it goes.

Fuuka chapter 30 - Yeah, this is totally the beginning of a friendly rivalry. Now that Fuuka and Koyuki have attracted the attention of Shelley Hornet, the #1 american singer, they are sure to get a boost of popularity and get pushed further along in the music industry. It'll be interested to see what develops from this encounter.

The Heroic Legend of Arslan chapter 15 - Arslan's got him a crew and Kharlan and his men are dead, but they are still outmatch by Lord Silver Mask's forces by a good 50,000 men to 1 ratio. And it seems the Masked Man is being manipulated by a mysterious sorcerer. Hmm. Wonder what's up with him.

Kyou Kara Yonshimai chapter 6-7 - I recently discovered this series. Just yesterday, in fact. It's a pretty interesting story about a transexual man, Kashiwa, and how his family takes the news of him wanting to become a woman, and her efforts to try and help out her struggling family while trying to get them to come to terms with his decision while trying to save up enough money to get a sex-change operation. These latest chapters were interesting since we are introduced to her girlfriend, and we learn how they met, and how intimate their relationship becomes, even though there are complications since Kashiwa is ashamed of her male body, which makes becoming sexually intimate with each other a difficult subject for them. Very well-done handling of the subject matter, and a genuinely sweet relationship between Kashiwa and her girlfriend that transcends their sexes, and instead is rooted in how much they love each other as people. This series has definitely caught my attention, and I look forward to keeping up with it from now on.

Magi chapter 238 - So Aladdin wants the Empires to form a treaty in order to combat Al Tharmen. Of course, that is easier said than done, since neither of them trust one another, and both Sinbad and Kouen are sure to have their own ambitions they'd rather pursue. I could definitely see them forming one, but going behind each other's backs and forming secret deals to further their own interests.  Like E-K, I want to see what Alibaba is going to do now, and whether he will accept Kouen's offer. I hope to see what he ultimately chooses soon.

Murcielago chapters 10-11 - Hmm, not sure what to make of this new story arc. Is Koumori related to the panty-thief after all, or is she just trolling for kicks? Or maybe there's a deeper case at work here (I mean, there is a new murderer that they want Koumori to track down). Still, Hinako's antics were pretty funny and amusing stuff, so I suppose it really doesn't matter.

Naruto chapter 692 - I was wondering how we'd transition to Naruto vs. Sasuke. Him being a murderous dick works as well as anything else, I guess. I'm sure this battle will end with some redemption bullshit for his character, so the cycle of hatred between the brothers finally ends and yadda yadda yadda. But hey, finally, it's the final battle of the series. Hopefully it doesn't last too long, and after it's done, the series will be over. So I don't care how this fight goes, so long as after it's done, I can finally leave this series behind me. I can taste the end. It's so, so close now....

One Piece chapter 760 - I always like a good ol' believe in Luffy moment, especially when it's on the part of a neutral/enemy character like Fujitora. It's nice to finally know Doflamingo's intentions after all this time, though perhaps this would have been a case where a one-chapter flashback would have worked. Can't really say much about the action in this chapter. It's fun seeing Doflamingo so pissed off, though, I suppose. Kind of a step down from the last two, but still, decent stuff.

One-Punch Man chapter 53 - Yup, so Genos is taking on the metal man in King's stead. Though it looks like it's a bit of a toughie for him to handle. I gotta wonder how King is gonna end up taking the credit for this guy's defeat. He's like the Mr. Satan of One-Punch Man, and I love him just as much. And as usual, amazing fight scenes in this chapter. Murata, you are the man..gaka that draws the best action sequences in the medium, showing off great stuff even in average, ordinary chapters like this. I salute you, sir.

The Seven Deadly Sins chapter 92 - Haha, wow. Last week I thought the Sins were gonna have a hard time fighting Hendricksen, but NOPE. They were just kicking his ass throughout this chapter. Looks like the oaf's demonic power ain't gonna do him any good against experienced fighters like the Sins after all. I loved the part where Ban was just slapping him, literally slapping him, around silly at the end of this chapter. Ho, boy. It looks like the demon he's been hoarding has been unearthed by Ban, now. Maybe it'll give him a power-up, or join the fight itself. And if Ban finds out it's the demon that killed Elaine, I gotta wonder just how pissed off he's gonna be, and if he'll go berserk or something. Now that I really want to see.

Shokugeki no Soma chapters 85-85.2 - Nice, this is taking a turn I didn't expect. We don't have to wait to see what Soma's got cooking, nope. He's done something pretty simple to help his stew be less tender - cooking beef tail meat. Since it's more gelatinous, he'll be adding viscosity to the stew, which will add depth to it without destroying it's mild flavor. But that snake Mimasaka totally predicted he would do that! Uh, oh, oh no! And what is that meat he's adding to the stew to go one step beyond Soma's dish? Oh man, I wanna find that out fast. My guess as to how this'll go is that Mimasaka will overdo the dish, ruining the balance of it compared to Soma's, which will make him lose. It'll be interesting to see if I'm right about that.

Toriko chapter 292 - This....this page image, man:

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Man, Teppei is such a...HEART BREAKER!!! XD

God, how I love Toriko. First we go from an interesting insight into how the people of the Bewitched Food World came to be (turns out they're mutants, whudda guessed?), and then we've got NEO coming out of nowhere to ambush the gang, and Teppei literally rips Komatsu's heart right out of Komatsu's body, and CRUSHES IT WITH HIS BARE HANDS. That's just such an awesome moment to me that it doesn't ever matter that NEO's arrival wasn't really set-up nor will Komatsu die from this (he's got Gourmet Cells, he can regenerate anything), but geez, does this series know how to entertain. Once again, thank you, Toriko, thank you.

Rankings:

1. A Silent Voice - 10/10
2. Kyou Kara Yonshimai - 10/10
3. Attack on Titan - 10/10
4. Attack on Titan: Before the Fall - 10/10
5. Toriko - 10/10
6. Shokugeki no Soma - 10/10
7. The Seven Deadly Sins - 9/10
8. Detective Conan - 8.5/10
9. Fairy Tail Zero - 8.5/10
10. Magi - 8.5/10
11. One-Punch Man - 8.5/10
12. One Piece - 8.5/10
13. The Heroic Legend of Arslan - 8/10
14. Fuuka - 8/10
15. Murcielago - 8/10
16. Naruto - 2/10
17. Bleach - 1/10

Damn excellent week. 15 good chapters. 6 really great chapters. Yes. If only these kind of weeks would happen more often. Ah, but whatever. Just reflecting on this stuff has left me in a good mood.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 13, 2014, 05:30:46 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on September 13, 2014, 04:57:33 PM
Now I'm reminded that I haven't read Claymore in years.

I've been meaning to check it out for a long time, but I've heard mixed things. Most people seem to agree that it had a good start, though. Did you think it was a good series and just fell out of it at some point, or did it turn bad further on into it, which is why you stopped reading it?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Avaitor on September 13, 2014, 05:50:04 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on September 13, 2014, 05:30:46 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on September 13, 2014, 04:57:33 PM
Now I'm reminded that I haven't read Claymore in years.

I've been meaning to check it out for a long time, but I've heard mixed things. Most people seem to agree that it had a good start, though. Did you think it was a good series and just fell out of it at some point, or did it turn bad further on into it, which is why you stopped reading it?
I think that I fell out due to a combination of the series repeating itself, and I was just losing the time to keep up with manga. I would say that it's worth looking into the series from what the anime covered and a little bit beyond it, though.

But keep in mind that I'm very rusty on Claymore. There's a local bookstore here with the 4th through 7th or 8th volumes for pretty cheap, and I sometimes think about collecting those to refresh myself on it. Those are around the peak of the series too, if memory serves me correctly. Maybe next time I'm in town, I will to see if I still enjoy the series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 13, 2014, 05:55:08 PM
Hmm, I see. I'll still check it out one day, though probably not anytime too soon, since I have a ton of other series on my backlog I need to get to first.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Avaitor on September 13, 2014, 06:05:54 PM
I remember liking the large amount of butt-kicking ladies, while Riful ranked among my favorite villains. I just haven't got around to it in a while.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 14, 2014, 11:10:45 AM
A new trailer for The Seven Deadly Sins anime is out, featuring some animation and voice-acting from the first episode. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpnNiCZO19s)

Eh...gotta say, not a fan of Meliodas' voice. Kind of sounds forced too deep, to me. Dunno what to make of the animation yet. There are a few good dynamic sequences in there, but at this point it's hard to say if this will be Magi-level quality or not. Still, it definitely looks better than Fairy Tail has ever did, so that's good at least.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 15, 2014, 10:37:21 AM
So, now that Kuroko no Basket is done, I have a free spot for another Jump sports manga, so I figure I'll start following Haikyuu since I don't have that much catching up to do and the first season is ending with the next episode.

As for my backlog series (as in, the ones where I'm way behind on them and have to marathon them whenever I have enough free-time), I'm still sticking with the 3 that I've been following over the past month, which are Berserk, JoJo, and Vagabond. So, it'll be a whole before I can free up a space for Vinland Saga, but most likely I'll catch up to Vagabond before the others.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 18, 2014, 12:47:03 PM
I finally managed to catch up to Haikyuu!!, which as it turns out isn't really that far ahead of where the first season of the anime is going to end. It's surprising how quickly some series get adaptations these days, although the series is clearly insanely popular in Japan right now.

Overall, the quality of the series is about on par with what Kuroko no Basket was before it got incredibly stupid and over the top with insane techniques. My only major gripe is that it plays it too safe, and I can't help but feel that I can predict what's going to happen right now. Karasuno is going to pull through their current match, and Seijoh is going to beat Datekou, and then they'll square off against Karasuno for a re-match, which Karasuno will most likely win because it's their "revenge" match after losing the last time. After that point, they'll go up against Shiratorizawa in the local representative finals, and to be fair, I can't predict whether they'll win that one or not just her, but the chances are in their favor for plot convenience, since this is the last time that the 3rd years can play before having to leave the team for good, and they have a goal of playing against Nekoma in the nationals.

Of course, that's all just predictions on my part, but I'm virtually certain that's how it's going to play out, and I really hope that it doesn't, because then it really is just another cliche sports manga. Granted that, I do still obviously find it enjoyable enough to keep sticking with it, but I can see myself being burned out in it before long. What would really be interesting is if Datekou won the match against Seijoh and went on to face Karasuno for THEIR "revenge" match. It'd defy expectations and show that just because the main characters have their own goals, it won't always play out how they predict. Datekou is a team that they previously beat, so it only goes without saying that they would want a re-match with Karasuno and much as Karasuno wants a re-match with Seijoh, and considering that every team trained super hard since the last competition, they could conceivably be an entirely different team, and good enough to take on a team that even managed to defeat Karasuno. Still, the most likely outcome is going to be Karasuno vs. Seijoh, which is basically the exact same thing as the Seirin vs. To-oh rematch from KnB, except with volleyball instead of basketball.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 18, 2014, 01:08:29 PM
I want to get caught up on Haikyuu!!, but I fell out of the anime around the second or third episode and haven't been motivated enough to pick it back up since. Still, I want to be caught up on all the major currently running Shonen Jump series by the end of the year (well, except maybe Gintama...since I doubt that I'm going to be able to finish reading it by the end of the year considering how many chapters there are and how dense it is...), so I will get around to it again before too long. For now, I'm just going to hit up World Trigger since it's shorter, the Weekly Manga Recap guys keep raving about it, and the anime is coming out in October, so I'd like to have an opinion on the series formed before that comes out. After that, I'll get back on Haikyuu!! and finish catching up on Nisekoi, and then I'll only have Gintama left and just take my time with that one.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 20, 2014, 06:38:17 PM
Not the most exciting of weeks, and there was a lot of mediocre stuff, but there was a lot of good stuff too that I ended up re-reading a few times, so that was nice.

A Silent Voice chapter 53 - I honestly was expecting the reunion of Shoya and Shoko to be a bit more dramatic, but as it is it made for a sweet scene where they realize the other is okay and become elated. I also enjoyed the sequence at the beginning of the chapter where Shoya has a "what-if" dream, mirroring that of Shoko's last week. Both of them regret the way things turned out back then, and no doubt they would have been different if Shoko wasn't deaf and Shoya hadn't been desperate for attention. Of course, those past mistakes have made them close to each other in the present, and luckily, that bond prevented either one of them from doing harm to themselves. Of course Shoya was injured trying to stop Shoko from committing suicide, but he's alright now, and now that they both have in each other somebody willing to go to any lengths to protect/help each other, they can start leaving behind their regrets and self-depreciating thoughts and start moving forward and living happier lives. Since the plan was to make the movie in order to support Shoya's recovery, I wonder how that will change now that he is out of his coma? Certainly, there are still amends and loose ends that need to be tied up, and I'm sure the project will still move forward, with Shoya's involvement now that he's recovered. Since the series is ending onf November 12th, there should still be around 7 or so chapters of the series left at this point, so I'm eager to see how everything will be resolved from this point in that remaining time. 

Black Butler chapter 97 - Um, so, this took a turn I didn't expect. The werewolves aren't actually werewolves. They were just guys in costumes. And the Werewolves lair was just a disguised factory. And the witch isn't really a witch...or maybe she is, I dunno, but she didn't make a potion like she thought she did, but instead unknowingly made a poisonous gas. So, they crippled her just for the sake of an elaborate farce and to keep up the lie until she created the poison? Why did they need to do that? And why the hell did they need a child to make a poisonous gas for them again? I'm very confused at this development. I guess I do feel bad for Sullivan, since she's likable and keeps getting screwed over and stuff. Hopefully she gets vindicated when Ciel and Sebastian brutally murder these assholes (assuming they will, since this is BB after all).

Bleach chapter 597 - Lillioto has eaten Pepe. Alright, hey, that's at least one less annoying Quincy to deal with. Still, it's rather bizarre that all these minor antagonists have been wiped out so relatively quickly compared to before when we spent months on a single fight. Of course, this chapter has introduced yet another new antagonist in the form of Sternritter W, whose addition is pointless considering that not only do we not need to see Squad 0 waste their time dealing with one of Ywach's lackeys, but also because Ywach makes it clear in this chapter that he is on a whole other level in terms of power, and likely, would be able to wipe the floor with every member of Squad 0 a la how Aizen was able to outmatch all the Soul Reaper Captains and Vizards back in the Arrancar arc. Since Ichigo and co. are finally going back to the Soul King's Palace, then at least they'll be a part of the story again, and hopefully the final conflicts will not take an absurd amount of time.

Fuuka chapter 31 - It seems that the band, now dubbed Full Moon thanks to Fuuka accidentally giving the english translation of her own name to Shelly when she asked what the band's name was, will most certainly increase in popularity and notoriety and get a foothold in the industry. Interestingly enough, Koyuki's confession that she will continue to love Yuu even if he doesn't feel the same way has drawn an objection from Fuuka. Perhaps she will admit that she also has feelings for him, or maybe she'll try and argue that both of them should have an open, public relationship, since she knows they both do care about each other, though Yuu may also have feelings for Fuuka as well. Fuuka is a fairly selfless person, but she's also blunt, so I wouldn't be surprised if she issues some sort of a challenge to Koyuki over Yuu, though that's kind would be kind of awkward to do in Yuu's presence. As far as Yuu goes, he most certainly wants to be around Fuuka and stay in the band, but he's definitely not self-aware enough to know yet which of the two girls he would want to start a relationship with. Regardless of the romantic issues, I do think that, like I've been saying for the last few weeks, that Fuuka and Koyuki are going to become rivals in the music industry, and perhaps the next chapter will be their official declaration of such.

Kyou Kara Yonshimai chapters 8-10 - It was nice seeing some chapters devoted to Momiji, and her understanding of what's going on with the rest of her family, and he attempts to develop a better social life. That made for some cute moments with that boy who has a crush on her (whose name I can't remember right now), as well as some good development for her character. The big development that came from these chapters is the revelation that Botan is sleeping around with married men, and the rest of the family finding this out, and deciding to confront her about it while she's still at the love hotel. Considering her line about how she's had enough of her own family, I feel it's clear that Botan is having these relationships has a means of relieving the stress and anxieties she's had from having to raise her younger siblings on her own in her parents' stead and her desire to have somebody she can depend on, a strong male figure in her life, which she's lacking. But it's clear she doesn't want to have a steady relationship with any men, which is why she spurs and laughs off the though of having one with Hatori or the other man, and is instead looking for easy comfort, and an escape from her daily life. Whatever the case, this development will surely cause a rift in the family, and perhaps that of her coworker's as well, and the fallout should be interesting to see.

Magi chapter 239 - It doesn't look like a treaty between Kou and Sindria will happen, but Kouen does seem like he's planning to oust Gyokouen and Al Tharmen from his country. Judar's arrival to the summit interests me, since it seems he wants to ally with Aladdin's cause, which makes sense since he isn't really loyal to Al Tharmen but more so his own ambitions of power. Of course, he's sure to have some conditions or something of the sort that will agitate the others and reject whatever he offers, so what his true aim is feels uncertain, but perhaps he just want to stir the pot and cause greater tensions between the groups to sabotage their chances of working together. And of course, if Judar is here, where is Hakuryu? Perhaps a reunion between him and Aladdin in co. is not too far off.

Magi: Adventure of Sinbad chapter 34-35 - It seems they just skipped chapter 33, for some reason. In any case, this was more of a wrap up of events for the Sindria trading company's establishment in Reim, while the other chapter showed Ja'far activate his metal vessel powers for the first time, and it seems Drakon has returned to Partevia, which will probably be the catalyst for the next arc. Overall not very memorable chapters, but served their role of transitions/set-up into a new arc well enough.

One Piece chapter 761 - Meh, for a chapter that reveled as much as it did, it came off completely boring and underwhelming. It was nice to finally know why Doflamingo still holds power with the World Government, the reason why Doflamingo coveted Law's power, and the beginnings of the flashback showing how Law joined Doflamingo's crew and met Corazon. But, the combination of messy artwork, poor transitions, and wordiness made all of this less interesting than it should be, and the chapter was a tedious read. Though I've been wondering when we would get Law's flashback, I didn't expect the transition to it would have been so sloppy and out of place, especially since they just started the fucking battle with Doflamingo and stuff and I'd rather see that instead at this point. Just a pretty bad chapter, overall.

Peephole chapters 38-39 - Uh oh, looks like the Yakuza have come to kidnap Yawagiwa or something. Is this part of Miyachi's plan? Kind of doesn't feel like it, since she prefers to do killings herself and all. As for Kurosu, just when it seems he's going to do the right thing and confess to Yawagiwa that Miyachi killed her brother, the circumstances have put him peril once again, and he'll no doubt be relying on Miyachi again to get him out of this jam. The guy just sinks deeper and deeper into a whole lot of shit, and I have a feeling, after this arc, he isn't going to be able to wash himself clean of it.

The Seven Deadly Sins chapter 93 - I don't know why I forgot that Ban had already killed the red demon in his flashback last week. But the moment where he punched the gloating Hendricksen into the ground after informing him that he had already defeated it years ago was priceless. I forgot Hendricksen was keeping that other demon around too, and with this new power-up, he will likely be a lot harder for the Sins to deal with. I'm still thinking that he'll overpower the Sins so much Meliodas will have to use his demonic powers again, but I guess we'll see about that.

Shokugeki no Soma chapter 86 - Bacon garnish on a beef stew! Mimasaka, you magnificent, evil bastard! A creepy one, too, since it seems he discovered the trick to Soma's dish by literally hiding under Mitsunari's desk and reading his pre-written report on Soma by hacking his PC beforehand. Yeah, you did fuck up Mitsunari. But Soma didn't reveal all his tricks, because he's brought out a slew of different beef parts and is cooking them simultaneously, promising the judges he will show them a "beef amusement park." I dunno what the hell that is, but I do know finding out will indeed be amusing.

Space Brothers chapter 236 - Last time I said I wanted Carlos to somehow return to the team...but really, what I wanted was Carlos to be of use to the team somehow even though he still wouldn't go into space. He fucked up, after all, and so he should have been left with the consequences but still be able to support his friends through some way and make up for that. But nope, that's not the direction we're going. We're just going to have Mosh break his arm leg in a stupid, contrived accident. Y'know, Mosh never got to be developed as a character, but he should have, and the team should have come around to accepting him as part of the group. Instead, he's just being written out pretty coldly, and clumsily, just so that Carlos can return to the group and things can be how they used to. This was just really poorly done as a whole. I suppose though, since I do like Carlos, I can get past this if the series can pick up the pace and get back on track with some better done material again.

Starbiter Satsuki - I figured I might as well read this. I don't tend to expect much out of one-shot, especially so from one done by Hiro Mashima, but likewise, since it is a Mashima work I knew it had to at least have some decent gags. And I suppose there were a few comedic moments that were humorous enough. The core story of it wasn't anything that innovative; just your typical collect-them-all kind of story. Of course, another reason I read this is because I noticed that the main character was female, which is uncommon in shonen, and I did find her character enjoyable to the extent I would try out a regular serialization of this premise for at least a few chapters. I also appreciated that the fan-service was tame, especially considering Mashima's track record. It wasn't anything special, but I'd say it could have potential as a series since, at the very least, the main lead is far more interesting than Natsu ever has been. So as far as one-shots go, it did do it's job decently enough, but it's a generic shonen beginning chapter that just plays as a wash to me, so I'm pretty meh on it overall.

Toriko chapter 293 - Quick-paced, action-packed, gloriously violent...damn, do I love Toriko. They wasted no time engaging with the NEO members and dealing with helping reawaken the fallen townspeople and start trying to save Komatsu's life. And Toriko is super fucking pissed off. Like, I haven't seen him this pissed off in a long, long, long time. And he massacres the lot of the NEO members, fucking blowing two of them right in half, and even landing a critical punch on Shigematsu, who used to be the #2 in the IGO before he defected. I'm not sure that he's defeated for sure, I mean, he was the second most important person in the IGO after Ichiryu at one point, so he had to be pretty powerful, but there is always the possibility that what's happening now is some sort of illusion manufactured by Teppei or Shigematsu's Beast, and I wouldn't be surprised if that really is the case. In any case, though, Toriko beginning a fight with Teppei and the entire line "AS FOR YOOOOUUU!!! I won't forgive you, Teppei!" was badass as fuck and made me so pumped to see more...until I realized that was the last page of the chapter and got bummed. But, super excited for next week, since Toriko vs. Teppei should should be a damn interesting, intense fight, though perhaps not too long since I don't think it's yet time for Teppei to return to his senses and defect from NEO, nor do I think, even in his rage, Toriko could justify killing someone who used to be a good friend of his, especially since Teppei's been brainwashed and stuff so he's not really in control of his own actions. In any case, this is is exciting stuff, and I can't wait to see more.

Rankings:

1. Kyou Kara Yonshimai - 10/10
2. Toriko - 9.5/10
3. A Silent Voice - 9/10
4. Shokugeki no Soma - 9/10
5. The Seven Deadly Sins - 8.5/10
6. Magi - 8.5/10
7. Peephole - 8.5/10
8. Fuuka - 8/10
9. Magi: Adventure of Sinbad - 8/10
10. Black Butler - 6.5/10
11. Space Brothers - 6.5/10
12. Starbiter Satsuki - 6.5/10
13. One Piece - 6/10
14. Bleach - 3/10
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 23, 2014, 03:16:20 PM
While we're on the subject of good currently running manga, right now, I'd say my Top Ten Favorite Currently Running Manga are:

1. Princess Jellyfish [josei/slice-of-life]
2. Silver Spoon [shonen/slice-of-life]
3. REAL [seinin/sports]
4. A Silent Voice [shonen/slice-of-life]
5. Vinland Saga [seinin/action]
6. Kakukaku Shikajika [josei/slice-of-life]
7. A Bride's Story [seinin/slice-of-life]
8. Space Brothers [seinin/slice-of-life]
9. Yotsuba&! [shonen/slice-of-life]
10. Detective Conan [shonen/mystery]

I feel like I should explain why I like these...but I'm kinda tired and have to deal with other stuff at the moment, so I'll have to beget that for now. But as you can see, most of my favorites seem to fall under the "slice of life" category, which is honestly pretty broad since none of those series are anything alike, except that they focus on more "ordinary people" and their problems and/or experiences as they try to find their way in life (hey, maybe that's why they are so good!).

BTW, I left off Berserk, One Piece, and Hunter X Hunter because it's hard for me to really rank them on a "how good they are now" basis. OP isn't as good as it once was, HXH keeps going on hiatus and the current arc hasn't become all that great yet, and Berserk has both those problems. All three are still good series overall, just not good enough in new chapters to properly stack them against more consistent series. I'm also not caught up with Billy Bat or Gintama so I kinda had to leave those two off too. Admittedly, there's also a few chunks of DC I've still never read (basically around volumes 30-40 & 50-70), but I've been keeping up with the new chapters for three years and I've still read most of it so I'd say my opinion on it is pretty set, though I as an aside I actually like the anime for DC better and it ranks significantly higher as a favorite on my anime list.


Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 23, 2014, 04:23:25 PM
REAL is my personal favorite, but honestly I'm not keeping up with that many manga due to time restraints and a huge back-log. I'm still trying to catch up with Vagabond, as it is. I also still need to play catch up with Space Brothers, which I'm still fairly far behind on.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 27, 2014, 07:26:53 PM
It's late September! That means it's time for Princess Jellyfish chapters to start being updated again. YAAAYYY!!!!!

A Silent Voice chapter 54 - A wonderfully touching reunion between Shoko and Shoya, where Shoya tells her that she helped him find new happiness in his life, and that while he doesn't know what he can do to make her happy, he wants to continue trying, and wants her to continue to help him become a better person. A great scene and dialogue, and a strong emotional conclusion to the development of their relationship throughout the story. It makes me wonder just what could possibly be left to show for the next six or so weeks before the series ends, but I'm sure it will continue to be a solid, rewarding denouement.

Assassination Classroom chapter 102 - Aw man, there were two really funny moments in this chapter: when Kurosensei started a crowd fight with the soccer fans in Brazil and when the God of Death hacked Ritsu and made her act like a delinquent, and I laughed hard at both. But that said, this is a pretty serious chapter overall, since despite their sound strategy and planning,Class E is simply totally out of their league against the God of Death. And Kaede getting punched in the gut like that looked painful. Ouch. It seems that Nagisa is now going to fight him one on one, which surprises me just because it's happening so quickly, and I expected things to have played out a little more first. Some comments I read says that apparently Irina is going to die in the next chapter...which would be really goddamn dark and something I wouldn't expect for this series, but it'll be interesting to see if that's true or not, and how the series would handle the aftermath of that.

Bleach chapter 598 - So, this entire stuff with Sternritter W was pointless because it seems he's already going to be offed. Geez, what was the damn point of introducing a new villain in the last chapter to just kill him off in the next, Kubo? Perhaps he just realized he didn't have a Sternritter for every letter of the alphabet and is just incorporating them all in quickly to drag time a little bit before the final battle against Ywach, which I'd think would be getting close-ish considering Ichigo and co. have blasted off to the Soul King's Palace. I like how Chad and Orihime are tagging along, when you just know they will be totally useless. Also, Ganju joins them....I dunno why, since he's not really all that strong or anything, but okay. Last time we saw him he was with Ginjo, Tsukishima, and eye-patch guy. Where the fuck are they? Did Kubo just forget he built that up? Speaking of which, is Grimmjow EVER going to show up? Seriously, at this point, I feel that he wasn't teasing him but Yoruichi instead, which would be lame if that's the case. One other thing I didn't like about this chapter was the pointless retrospective on past times that was played for humor. Also, it's hard to care that they feel bad that Ishida has betrayed them and Ichigo promises to bring him back and stuff, because the character had been so out of focused, and these relationships had been put out of the way for so long, that you can't feel the weight of the situation. The fact that Ichigo isn't taking it that seriously by promising the same old shonen protagonist bullshit he'll bring him back and crap doesn't help matters either. There's really nothing to be invested in in this series in general, which is probably why it keeps ranking at the bottom of the Jump polls these days, and probably why Jump editors are pressuring Kubo to speed things up and end sooner rather than later at this point.

Fuuka chapter 32 - When the characters were interrupted by those passers-by, I thought that things would be left in a standstill and this love triangle left hanging. But, to my surprise, that did not happen. Yuu let Koyuki down easy, and she's hurt but resigned to that, and he confesses his love to Fuuka. Wow, so rarely does this sort of thing happen so early into a manga like this. I'm impressed and surprised that the author had the balls to develop the relationship into an actual one at this stage, just when the real story has truly to begin. This will be very interesting to see play out and develop, and I can't wait to see how this will affect the growth of the characters from this point on.

GTO: Paradise Lost chapter 11 - What the heck is wrong with the body of that girl? It's seriously out of proportion, and those abs are weirdly drawn. Well, the hot-shot idol prick's plan to get his crazy psycho fan to beat the shit out of Onizuka for him is somewhat interesting, at least. These new students are just simply not as interesting as the old ones, and being asshole idols, they aren't quite as sympathetic, so it is hard for me to quite get into this development. But, this is more interesting material than PL has shown thus far, so I might as well see this arc through at least.

Magi chapter 240 - Most of this chapter was just "omg, Judar is back and he's different somehow oh wow, herp derp" and the only significant thing that happened is that apparently Hakuryu killed Gyokuen. Which is a total lie, obviously, because no way is the main villain of this series going to be killed off off-screen like that. Certainly, this is a ruse to trick everyone at the Summit to head to Kou, perhaps a ploy by Judar and Hakuryu to get rid of all their enemies in a surprise trap or something. Generally, I was just kind of bored by the chapter, and I don't quite care for this direction in the story, but it's not bad and could develop into something interesting in the coming weeks.

Murcielago chapter 12 - I could have done without Koumori trying to make advances on a young girl. This new arc has some potentially interesting elements, though, what with kidnapping that girl to lure out her serial murderer father. I was also amused by how gleefully Hinako told her that Koumori killed her parents and will kill hers as well if they turn out to be bad people. I wonder if we'll ever learn more about that story. This chapter had some amusing moments, but like the above Magi chapter, just not that interesting overall.

Naruto chapter 693 - I can't say there was anything outright bad about what happens in this chapter. If I was still invested, I might be able to care about Sakura's confession and appeal to Sasuke, and the fact Naruto and Sasuke will have their re-match in the exact same place they had their big showdown years ago would be neat. I'm not, though, so eh. Sakura also just continues to be useless and a terrible character through her whole spiel in this chapter, but I did laugh hard when Sauske basically just told her to fuck off. That was a good unintentionally funny moment. So, Sasuke's going to explain what he means when he says he wants to be hokage...which I though would be straightforward but I guess we'll have to see a whole chapter devoted to his personal philosophy or whatever before this final battle starts. Eh.

Orange chapter 14 - Uh, I thought Suwa's letter told him NOT to get in the way of Naho and Kakeru's relationship? What the hell is he doing asking Kakeru if he can date Naho? Geez, did the author forget that plot point? Story-wise this continues to be a fairly standard shojo set-up and it just isn't doing too much for me. However, perhaps Suwa actively pursing Naho will get Kakeru to realize his own feelings for her, which would be a good development to move the plot forward.

One-Punch Man chapter 54 - I have a feeling King and Saitama are going to get along very well. They have similar interests and tastes in things after all, and are both slackers. Perhaps Saitama's influence will encourage King to become a better hero as well. On Genos' side of things, his battle with that metal man continues to be impressive and cool. I doubt King's lies will be outed, but certainly people are going to be suspicious that he fled the scene and left things to Genos, unless he comes back to the scene before the fight ends or something.

Peephole chapter 40 - Miyachi seems to have planned the perfect situation to get rid of Yamagiwa and blame it on the mafia. Kurosu being there and getting beaten up by the mafia only furthers their innocence in the ordeal and gives them an alibi. Damn, can she be crafty. But Kurosu still has a conscience, so maybe he'll try and stop Miyachi from killing Yamagiwa after all. Whether he'll be successful with that, well...

Princess Jellyfish chapters 70-71 - Kai's backstory is brilliant. He became into clothes totally on circumstance, a means to help out his fellow orphans at the orphanage, and from there he started to manage a profitable enterprise, which kept growing and growing each year, and eventually gave him the business experience and knowledge about high-end clothes that allowed him to start his own clothing store brand. But does he actually like clothes? That's a question he has no answer. He got into the business out of a need to survive and make his way in the world, and he's become successful through his hard work. But whether he enjoys what he does, and what he creates, is something he never stopped to think about, until he attained success, and realized there was an emptiness inside him, and he keeps searching for a spark to show him why he is still in this business, and why he got into it in the first place. Tsukimi's dresses could do just that, but that's not what she is going to be making once she becomes a full-fledged employee, since the Jellyfish dresses are not mainstream enough for their clothing line. Like Io, she will be working on things that she won't want to make, but will have to anyway, and like Io, she wont' find any fulfillment in that. Why did Tsukimi like making clothes in the first place? Only because she was making them with all her friends, who all worked themselves to death to make her designs a reality, all for the sake of saving their home. Tsukimi may have a talent for creating designs, but she did not make those clothes alone. She made them with people she cared about and who cared about her, and it was through hard work and against adversity that they accomplished impressive things. Tsukimi realizes she isn't making clothes for herself, she is making them for her friends' sake. She accepted Kai's offer in order to save Amamizukan, her home and the friends who live their. This is all for their sake. That's what will motivate her through this. And though she might be going away for a while, those friends will continue to wait for her and the business that they started. I'm not sure how long Tsukimi will stay with Kai's company, but unlike Io, she has at least found a reason and a purpose for doing what she's doing. And perhaps, her passion will reignite Kai's own. And I'm sure as hell that Kuranosuke and Shuu aren't going to give up on her without a fight, and will continue to try and bring her back or perhaps buy the rights to Amamizukan from Kai himself somehow. Phenomenal chapters, almost like a conclusion and beginning in one, and I can't wait to see where Higashimura takes the story from here.

The Seven Deadly Sins chapter 94 - Ho boy, Hendricksen is just massacring everyone now. Even Gowther got his entire upper half of his body blown off. And black dust that instantly rots your body to death? Damn. The real bombshell in this chapter is that Veronica is alive. Which...I don't really get how, but okay. And why is "Ellie" special? Why does Hendricksen want her specifically? Now that's a mystery where set-up demands an explanation, and I'm betting we'll be getting one soon enough.

Shokugeki no Soma chapter 87 - So Soma is improvising with his dish! And it seems like what he's created is making even Mimasaka sweat in anticipation? Just how did his dish turn out? Boy oh boy, the reaction to Mimasaka's dish was already so over the top, I can't wait to see just how balls crazy the reaction to Soma's will be.

Toriko chapter 294 - I have mixed feelings about the beginning stuff with Shigematsu. On one had, it's fucking hilarious to see him flying like that, get eaten by a giant snake, but then continue flying through the mouth of the snake and out it's throat, only to get ripped to shreds by a hoards of other beasts. At the same time, I think his moment of regret for betraying Ichiryu was rushed and out of place considering he wasn't brainwashed like Teppei but working for NEO willingly, and also because I don't think such a fairly significant antagonist should be killed off in such a rushed manner. Putting the stuff with Shigematsu aside, I should've expected that the fight between Toriko and Teppei would be short, especially since I knew that he wouldn't get out of the mind-control so easily or quickly at this point in the story. But I love the set-up to this new arc. Time is running out for Komatsu, so they are fighting against the clock to get to a new continent, grab Acacia's fruit, and bring it back to replace Komatsu's heart, except they no longer have Komatsu's food luck to help them out, NEO will surely get in their way, they have to deal with the Beast King of that continent as well, and hell, the Bishokuya might show up and further fuck things up for them, who knows? This is shaping up to be a more serious, action-packed arc, and I'm pretty excited to see what happens in it.

Rankings:

1. Princess Jellyfish - 10/10
2. A Silent Voice - 10/10
3. Fuuka - 10/10
4. Assassination Classroom - 9/10
5. The Seven Deadly Sins - 8/10
6. Toriko - 8/10
7. One-Punch Man - 8/10
8. Shokugeki no Soma - 8/10
9. Peephole - 8/10
10. Mucielago - 7.5/10
11. Magi - 7/10
12. Orange - 6.5/10
13. GTO: Paradise Lost - 6.5/10
14. Naruto - 2/10
15. Bleach - 1/10

I loved the PJ, ASV, and Fuuka chapters this week and AC was great as well, but the rest fairly lacking and there were quite a few mediocre chapters too. Still, the PJ chapters alone outweighs the meh for me, so I'd still say it was a good week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on September 28, 2014, 01:34:59 PM
I caught up with One-Punch Man, yesterday.  Saitama's fight with Boros was fucking awesome!!!!! The current story with King is also very entertaining.  King kinda reminds of Mr. Satan from how he has a reputation of being crazy strong even though he's just a normal dude.  It's gonna be a lot of fun keeping up with this.   ;D
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 28, 2014, 07:54:00 PM
Glad to see you're enjoying it! OPM is always such a blast to read, with lots of great humor and incredible action sequences. And I've said it before, but the fight scenes are easily the best I've seen in any comic, and the art is phenomenal all around. Yusuke Murata might very well be the best artist in the industry right now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 05, 2014, 10:25:51 PM
So, apparently according to this link, Naruto will be ending in 5 weeks. (http://www.shonenjump.com/j/2014/10/naruto-fin.html)

OH GOD PLEASE LET THIS BE TRUE PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE PLEA...
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 05, 2014, 11:37:54 PM
Okay, now I'm 100% confident about it. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-10-06/naruto-manga-to-end-in-5-weeks/.79600) Naruto is ending in 5 weeks.

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(https://38.media.tumblr.com/07538eea4f9eb97e906e0de144c88978/tumblr_mqrfowzG3Y1sd49wao1_500.gif)

WHOO-HOO! YEAH! YEAHHHHHHH BABYYYY! YEAH YEAH YEAH YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!

I've waited so long for this day to come. So, so so so long. Finally, one of the most obnoxious manga series to ever be uber popular is finally going to end! A series that I've ultimately wasted over 9 years following as it went from decent to plain-out shit is over and I no longer will have to keep reading it out of obligation to see it through to the end! Because it's ending! It's ending, it's ending, it's ending! Oh ho ho, this is a joyous day! CELEBRATE PARTY TIME YEAH YEAH YIP...

...Uh, er, ahem, but, um, yeah seriously, I'm glad I'll be able to finally put this series behind me in due time. Now, if only Bleach and Fairy Tail can end soon, so all three of the uber-popular battle-shonen series I truly, legitimately despise can be out of sight and out of mind for good. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 05, 2014, 11:43:28 PM
It's funny, because I was forcing myself to stick with this manga for so goddamn long just because it was the among the first manga that I ever read. I quit a little over a year ago when it just got to be too much even for me to deal with. Hearing that this series is finally going to end really does feel like a blessing in an odd way, even I haven't been keeping up with it. Hell, I ALMOST feel compelled to marathon through the rest of it just to say that I finished it, but remembering just how atrocious it is, that's a bit too tall of an order for me. Still, perhaps I'll chime in and just skip to the last couple of chapters to finally see the story close out. That'll certainly be satisfying.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 05, 2014, 11:50:40 PM
Yeah, don't bother reading from where you dropped off at. I kid you not, it got even worse in this last year than it has possibly ever been. That entire shitty fight with Kaguya in particular was god awful and it completely ruined any redeemable qualities the story possibly had left, which is saying a lot considering how bad this has been the last few years. But yeah, it'll be satisfying to see this series finally go.

It's funny, cause this means that Naruto, which I consider one of my least favorite manga ever, will be ending pretty much the same week as A Silent Voice, which I consider one of my favorite manga ever. So I'll have double satisfaction in that week for two very different reasons, there.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 05, 2014, 11:53:48 PM
The ending will probably be an epilogue where Naruto is Hokage....and nobody will give a fuck when they remember all the times that this character just annoyed the hell out of them.

Sorry Kishimoto, but you have no talent. At best, Naruto was only ever mediocre to begin with, and the sad thing is that it wasn't really ever at its best past the first few arcs.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Rynnec on October 06, 2014, 12:08:11 AM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 05, 2014, 11:43:28 PM
It's funny, because I was forcing myself to stick with this manga for so goddamn long just because it was the among the first manga that I ever read. I quit a little over a year ago when it just got to be too much even for me to deal with. Hearing that this series is finally going to end really does feel like a blessing in an odd way, even I haven't been keeping up with it. Hell, I ALMOST feel compelled to marathon through the rest of it just to say that I finished it, but remembering just how atrocious it is, that's a bit too tall of an order for me. Still, perhaps I'll chime in and just skip to the last couple of chapters to finally see the story close out. That'll certainly be satisfying.

Eh, I'd say it's worth marathoning if you're in the mood for a good comedy.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 06, 2014, 12:29:39 AM
I say if he's looking for a good comedy, then he should read something that's funny for the right reasons, not the wrong ones.  :awesome:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 08, 2014, 12:25:17 PM
So, Law is a "D" after all (I believe some fans had already speculated that, because they are just that obsessive), which I must admit, I didn't put a lot of thought into, but it actually does make sense.

Other than that, the flashback has disappointingly mostly been your standard "feel bad for this character now" shit that Oda's been doing since the beginning. It really bugs me because there is a CLEAR missed opportunity here. He could've changed things up and shown them from Doflamingo's perspective, and this way we would get more insight into a villain for once, possibly making him more fleshed out and 3-dimensional. In fact, I originally thought that he was going to do that, but I suppose I shouldn't expect anything great from an author who refuses to adapt his storytelling formula that he ran into the ground several years and hundreds of chapters ago.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 09, 2014, 06:16:40 PM
Sigh.... (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-10-09/kuroko-basketball-to-launch-sequel-manga-in-december/.79735)

If this is just a shirt spin-off, than OK, that's that, but if this is an entire new long-running series, I just don't think I'm looking that forward to it. I didn't like the last game of KnB, but at least I had to give it credit for wrapping up the series and ending it, whereas other manga would go on for too long. I just don't know where else the story would go from here. None of the characters were poignant enough to be that interesting to follow in later story arcs, IMO. If somehow Tadatoshi could somehow recapture the spark the series had during the first half of its run, then that'd be something, but if he's just going to stick to the same formula in the first placement then it'll be really boring.

Overall, not excited for it, but I'll still probably check it out for a few chapters to see if it's worthwhile. Of course, I could be overblowing it and it could just be a one-shot or miniseries, in which case it's not that big a deal. :D
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 09, 2014, 06:26:34 PM
To their credit, the fan base is really skeptical about this as well. They are accusing Fujimaki of pulling a "Konomi/Prince of Tennis 2" by just sticking to a series that is already massively popular rather than letting it end and moving onto new projects. On the one hand, I can understand from a business perspective how much safer it is to stick with a hit series than try and risk coming up with a new hit and failing several times in the process. However, at the same time, you're series will eventually grow stale and have to end and some point, at which point you'll be SOOL if you don't have the talent to come up with something new that has popularity potential.

Even if I didn't like the last third of KnB, I'd still have a ton of respect for a Fujimaki if he just let it stay finished and came up with a new series, which I definitely would've checked out. As it stands, I can't respect someone who plays it safe and didn't hold my interest with the last portion of his series to begin with.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 09, 2014, 06:33:09 PM
Alright, so I failed to notice that it's running in Jump NEXT, which is bi-monthly, so at least it's not a full-time project, meaning that Fujimaki might do some other stuff.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 09, 2014, 06:35:24 PM
...This is just going to end up being another New Prince of Tennis in terms of pointlessness. I doubt it'll be much good, and considering I found the second half of KnB mediocre at best and the last game awful, I'm not interested in following it.

And I was really looking forward to Fujimaki making a golfing manga too. Shame.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 10, 2014, 12:01:31 AM
Not that most live-action adaptions of anime/manga series ever turn out all that well, but after seeing the trailer for the Princess Jellyfish (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-10-09/live-action-princess-jellyfish-film-2nd-trailer-previews-theme-song/.79736) movie, I'm hella confused as to how they are going to make Kuranosuke's character work, since the point is that his voice sounds effeminate enough that when he's cross-dressing you can mistake him for a woman, while the actor who's portraying him in this film's voice sounds much too deep for that to be believable. Everyone else looks fine though. I am a big fan of the series, so I guess I could check it out if and see for myself it ever gets subbed. I'm also reminded that there was a film for Silver Spoon made earlier this year, and since I could easily see that working in live-action, I should get around to checking that out too.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 10, 2014, 06:07:38 AM
So, you know how I do a weekly recap of all the manga I've read each week, and how I haven't done last week's yet? Yeah...I kinda got too busy, and at this point I've already read the new chapters of most of those series and it's almost the end of this week anyway....so yeah, that'll just have to be a miss. I will do this week's recap tomorrow, though, for sure.

But, for what it's worth, this is how I'd rank last week's chapters:

1. Princess Jellyfish - 9.5/10
2. A Silent Voice - 9/10
3. Vinland Saga - 9/10
4. Shokugeki no Soma - 9/10
5. Fuuka - 9/10
6. Detective Conan - 9/10
7. The Seven Deadly Sins - 8/10
8. One-Punch Man - 8/10
9. Magi - 8/10
10. One Piece - 8/10
11. Toriko - 8/10
12. Peephole - 8/10
13. Space Brothers - 8/10
14. Joshi Kausei - 8/10
15. GTO: Paradise Lost - 7/10
16. Naruto - 3/10
17. Bleach - 1/10
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 10, 2014, 12:36:21 PM
Looks like that was a pretty decent week for you. Only the expectedly bad series were shit. :sly:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 10, 2014, 12:39:54 PM
Yeah, it was a really good week. Of course, even if all the other series had been mediocre, it was a week with Princess Jellyfish, Vinland Saga, AND A Silent Voice, which are always fucking amazing, so I probably would have still said it was a good week either way.  :D
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 10, 2014, 09:19:40 PM
So, as I predicted, Karasuno is up against Seijoh again for their rematch. The problem I have with this is that the outcome is WAY too predictable. They lost their first game against them by just a little bit during a tiebreaker, so they are naturally going to win this time. How can I say this with such certainty? Because this is the last time that any of the 3rd years can play, thus if they lose this game, the make-up of both their's and Seijoh's team would change, thus crippling their rivalry since the make-up of the teams would be very different after that point. Since Karasuno is the team of our main characters, normal shounen sports logic deems that they will win. I feel bad, because on the one hand, this manga is really good at making such a seemingly simple sport seem entertaining WITHOUT relying on over the top power-ups like Prince of Tennis or Kuroko no Basket. On the other hand, no matter how good the actual content of the game is, it's really hard to make me give a shit if I already know the outcome (and before anyone says anything, manga like Ashita no Joe and Slam Dunk are among the exceptions). I'd give major props to the mangaka if he had the balls to go against expectations,mbut I just don't see it happening, since the whole set-up of this match flat-out wouldn't make any sense from a story-telling point of view unless Karasuno was destined to win it.

Honestly, though, the anime is definitely better than the manga in adapting these predictable situations. It's all about good execution and good direction which makes an alright shounen sports series seem greater than it really is, so I'll definitely be checking out season 2 of the anime, even though I already know hoe it will all go down.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 12, 2014, 12:04:20 AM
So, I actually tried picking up Naruto where I left off....Oh god, why!? :gonk:

I swear to god, this is the hardest time I've ever had just trying to force myself to keep reading a work of fiction. I have literally read some textbooks that are more interesting than what I'm reading here. It's so convoluted and incredibly stupid to the point of being a chore to follow. That's why I stopped reading in the first place. Reading this manga actively feels like I'm forcing myself to undergo mental displeasure. I know people often say this stuff as an exaggerating way to say something is bad, but I'm being dead serious here.

To put things in perspective, take a bad movie like X-Men Origins: Wolverine. It's unquestionably bad, but if I was locked in a room for a couple of hours and had nothing to do but either watch that DVD or silently keep to my own thoughts for 2-hours, I'd pop in the movie and kill some time. If you put me in the same situation but had my choice be that or to specifically read 2-hours worth of Naruto chapters from any point in this Shinobi War arc, I'd literally find it easier to just do nothing. That's how bad this is.

How can anyone like this stuff, legitimately? How can people defend this? Why is this manga still so undeservedly popular even when it's this unreadably bad? Did Jacob T. Paschal seriously praise this very material that I'm specifically reading right now, yet insult Mereum's character development from Hunter X Hunter? How the fuck....? What? What!? How the fuck can anyone find this shit to even be tolerable!?

Remember how much I've been harping on Oda for One Piece over the past few years? Well I take it back. Naruto has literally managed to sink so low, that it manages to make Oda's weaker story-telling look relatively well put-together. That's how low the bar has been set with this. I am utterly appalled. No wonder I stopped reading this shit.

And in case you're wondering, I'm specifically at the part where Black Zetsu takes over Obito's body after he was weakened, and Madara claims "Haha! I was planning to do that the whole time! You guys just played right into my master plan!" And this is of course several times after he had the exact same reaction when someone seemingly foiled his plans. BULL! FUCKING! SHIT! Kishimoto just pulled that out of his ass and he knows it. In fact he pulls each new chapter out of his ass. Every single chapter is either some "OMG! I didn't see that coming! What a twist!" revelatory chapter that of course was made up on the spot, or it's about how everyone now loves Naruto and practically want to suck his dick because he's the "hero" that they all used to be such ass-holes to because they are Kishimoto characters, and thus completely unlikable. That's literally all this is. It's back and forth between plot twists and metaphorical oral sex with Naruto. Well, fuck this shit! Kishimoto can go suck his own dick!

And thus ends my rant, for now, complete with explicit content and all. But I'm really not exaggerating. I find this manga to be "disgustingly" bad, not in an offensive way, but literally in an "it's written SO BADLY" way.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Nel_Annette on October 12, 2014, 12:51:45 AM
You... you didn't even reach the worst part if Madara's still standing. Read deeper, my friend. Deeper into the gaping maw of madness. It somehow reaches even further levels of "That is absolute bullshit! How is that even a thing?!"

The only thing Kishimoto is relatively good at is tying back certain themes, but the stuff he pulled in this final arc was balls to the walls horse dick. Pick a villain. Use that villain. Don't have a bunch of random people keep one-upping each other with "but I'm the REAL bad guy!", don't bring back a bunch of people who already died just so they can use their bullshit powers to win the fight, and don't suddenly usher in a bunch of prophecy/reincarnation crap that suddenly deifies Naruto.

I've said it before in this thread and I'll say it again: I think it's absolutely amazing (in the worst possible way) that the two motherfuckers who initiated this big war are somehow considered good guys, or redeemable by the end of the fight. They're replaced by new big bads twice, and by the end of the war they started, are on the good guys' side. Ridiculous. They should have been the big bads of the whole thing.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 12, 2014, 01:17:49 AM
Well, E-K, didn't I warn you this series had gotten even shitter since when you dropped it? Think of how you could have spent that time finally starting Vinland Saga or something? To contrast, whereas you have now wasted precious hours of your life today by reading a terrible manga like Naruto, I spent mine catching up to an amazing manga, Billy Bat. I think we both know which one of us better spent their time.  :awesome: You would have been better off heeding my warning, if not just going back to earlier in this thread and simply reading through all my thoughts I wrote for each chapter that came out this year and see the ever spiraling decline of the series into total bullshit in a less time-wasting way. But since you've come this far, I suppose you may as well venture deeper and see the absolute worst the series has to offer... :humhumhum:

In all seriousness, though, fuck Naruto. How anyone can still give it any respect whatsoever after all the bullshit of the last three years, in particular the shit that happened in the last six months especially, is absolutely mind-boggling to me. The saddest part of it is that because it's been so big a series and so entrenched in popular culture, it will likely be remembered. But I sure as hell hope in a decade from now it's not considered as some sort of a "classic," because boy howdy, this shit isn't even just mediocre, it's just bad. Maybe not the worst there is or anything, but still bad. I will be so, so happy when this series finally ends.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 12, 2014, 01:27:27 AM
Yes, Cartoon X. You were right. You were so, so right. And yet....I can't stop. Now that I know it gets even worse....I just kind of have to see it to believe it. :whuh:

Quote from: Nel_Annette on October 12, 2014, 12:51:45 AMYou... you didn't even reach the worst part if Madara's still standing. Read deeper, my friend. Deeper into the gaping maw of madness. It somehow reaches even further levels of "That is absolute bullshit! How is that even a thing?!"

:wth:

It's funny, because had this arc ended years ago like it should have, I'd probably just think of Naruto as a mediocre shounen, on the whole. It's amazing how one single terrible story-line can be so bad that it retroactively destroys any and all positive qualities and sense of integrity that a series ever had.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 13, 2014, 01:59:12 PM
Yep, it's awful. I'm glad I stopped when I did. Same with Bleach.

Now lets get some good shonen out there to replace this with posthaste.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 13, 2014, 08:10:33 PM
I doubt that we'll see any good battle-shonen become nearly as popular internationally as Naruto did for a considerable amount of time, if ever again. Attack on Titan, of course, defied all odds and became an unrivaled massive commercial hit everywhere, but a hit like that is lightning in a bottle. Shame it isn't really "good," though.

But imo, fuck battle-shonen. Let some non-action series get uber popular for a change. :bleh:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 13, 2014, 11:46:53 PM
This reminds me I really should get around to reading Battle Angel Alita, sometime. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/10/13/final-chapter-of-gunnmbattle-angel-alita-manga-to-start-on-october-28)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 14, 2014, 01:53:14 AM
I remember a friend loaned me the first few volumes of BAA back in high school. At the time, I was really snobby and couldn't get into the more creatively cartoony art style, but I'd probably appreciate more if I tried reading it today.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 14, 2014, 05:47:54 PM
So, I read some more Naruto today. Honestly, I've always had a problem with this manga's use of flashbacks. No wonder so many people have made fun of it. Some fans have defended it by saying that it adds depth to the characters. First off, lots of manga have flash backs, but there's a difference between the ones that use them effectively and the ones that just use them as padding. For instance, did we really need a flash back for Gai, who by all accounts has been a relatively minor character in the grand scheme of the series, so late into the final arc? And furthermore, it's the same goddamn backstory as EVERY FUCKING CHARACTER in this manga. I swear to god, whether it's a hero or a villain, it ALWAYS follows this specific formula:

-Character is either looked down on and mistreated by others, or feels emotionally distant from people just because, or starts our super happy and then quickly experiences a tragic incident which puts them in one of the other two circumstances

-Character initially hates the world but has that one person who "understands" them and looks out for them, and acts as their mentor, until that character either tragically dies, leaves them for some reason, or turns on them

-Character then goes through a period of anger and resentment towards whatever fucked them over and then meets someone else who either guides them into being a better person or a complete villain

A lot of these back-stories also rely heavily on every other character being completely 1-dimensional dicks who's only purpose is to make the life of the POV character of that flashback to be as miserable as possible. Seriously, how many flashbacks in this manga can you find that completely (or even just mostly) manage to defy that formula? At best I can only think of very few that only follow parts of it, but literally every flashback in the entire series has a majority of those elements. So in essence, it's the same story over and over again. Maybe that's the point that Kishimoto is trying to make, that regardless of their status, nobody has an easy past and everyone has motivations for what they do (though I seriously doubt that he's that clever). While that'd be great in and of itself, he does a terrible job of truly differentiating these characters enough to make them individually interesting. They just seem to be reacting to the plot that's unfolding, rather than unfolding the plot themselves through their own actions and character development.

And of course, even without reading further ahead yet, I can already tell you that Gai isn't going to save the day, or even stop the main villain. Partly because I know that who I'm looking at isn't even the REAL main villain yet, but even stopping the "fake" main villain will probably go to a more important character. Kishimoto has cursed himself with his own story-telling tropes because there is absolutely no sense of tension or unpredictability in any of these encounters. The only things that are unpredictable are the completely idiotic twists that he pulls out of his ass. At least the earlier arcs of Naruto had a mostly consistent flow to them, but this arc is a fucking mess. It's literally just a combination of pointless fights, pointless flashbacks, and pointless false climaxes because every time you think it's done, a new big evil threat is revealed.

The worse part is that I still have over 25 chapters left to go....:gonk:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 14, 2014, 08:53:19 PM
I'm tempted to make a blog after the series is over where I go over it from the beginning and pick apart everything that went wrong and is wrong with it. Of course, that would require me to actually re-read the series, which is something I'd really rather not do, so...I'll see how I feel about that idea when the series is actually over and done.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 14, 2014, 09:14:39 PM
Or course Gai isn't going to win. He would have to be a main character to do that. He's not should-be-overpowered-but-for-some-reason-isn't Naruto or should-not-be-this-strong-but-is-because Sasuke or even I-don't-know-why he-wasn't-killed-in-the-first-hit Kakashi.

Kishimoto really has no idea who is what anymore.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 14, 2014, 09:25:42 PM
I was actually thinking of blogging about the final arc of the manga (which, mind you, is in and of itself around 200 chapters long, counting the entire Shinobi war as one mega story line) and how godawful it is once the manga wraps up. If you want to tag team with me on that one, CX, it'd be great. God knows I'll need the help to go over just how horrendous it truly is. There's just way too much to cover, that I don't even know where to start.

And don't get me wrong, Naruto was bad long before that arc, but this is where the series truly sunk to an unbelievable low that it just has to be talked about.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 14, 2014, 09:33:58 PM
Spoiler alert: Gai doesn't win. He in fact almost dies. Naruto brings him back to life. Because...he can do that now, apparently. Basically everything with Gai ended up being filler in the grand scheme of things, because nothing about his fight with Madara ends up impacting the story in any way. It's so fucking stupid.

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 14, 2014, 09:25:42 PM
I was actually thinking of blogging about the final arc of the manga (which, mind you, is in and of itself around 200 chapters long, counting the entire Shinobi war as one mega story line) and how godawful it is once the manga wraps up. If you want to tag team with me on that one, CX, it'd be great. God knows I'll need the help to go over just how horrendous it truly is. There's just way too much to cover, that I don't even know where to start.

And don't get me wrong, Naruto was bad long before that arc, but this is where the series truly sunk to an unbelievable low that it just has to be talked about.

Yeah, I'd be down for doing that. It's a looooong arc, after all, and there's a lot to pick apart about it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Avaitor on October 14, 2014, 10:01:45 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on October 14, 2014, 08:53:19 PM
I'm tempted to make a blog after the series is over where I go over it from the beginning and pick apart everything that went wrong and is wrong with it. Of course, that would require me to actually re-read the series, which is something I'd really rather not do, so...I'll see how I feel about that idea when the series is actually over and done.
Heh, did my tweet give you the idea to do so? It sounds like it'd be a lot of fun to read, even though Naruto itself clearly became unbearable after a certain point.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 14, 2014, 10:08:36 PM
I think Naruto would have been a far better series if it stuck to arcs like the Zabusa/Haku one and not "ninja politics meets Bleach" which it devolved to by the end of part one.

I do think the series started with promise, but it shed off as it went on.

And promptly fell into the toilet with this war arc.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 14, 2014, 10:27:32 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on October 14, 2014, 10:01:45 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on October 14, 2014, 08:53:19 PM
I'm tempted to make a blog after the series is over where I go over it from the beginning and pick apart everything that went wrong and is wrong with it. Of course, that would require me to actually re-read the series, which is something I'd really rather not do, so...I'll see how I feel about that idea when the series is actually over and done.
Heh, did my tweet give you the idea to do so? It sounds like it'd be a lot of fun to read, even though Naruto itself clearly became unbearable after a certain point.

I've been thinking about the idea for a while, actually, but seeing your tweet did make me start considering whether I should actually do it more seriously, especially since while I'm already aware of a blog that highlights all the shitty stuff in Bleach, I don't think anyone has made one for Naruto. In general, I've been meaning to start a blog for a while now, and going over Naruto's downfall is one of the things I've been considering that seems like a good topic to focus on and write about, provided I can stomach going through the series all over again.  :D
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 14, 2014, 10:51:02 PM
You don't have to go through the entire series all over again. You can just skim through the more significantly bad parts. It's easy enough to read plot summaries covering the entire series in detail to refresh your memory, and then just go back to the specific worst parts that you remember, after all, that's what I would do, as opposed to re-reading a 700-chapter long manga in full, which is just insane.

Also, in regard to Desensitized's post, I consider the Zabuza/Hakusho arc to be the closest that this series has ever come to being legitimately good. In truth it's an average arc by battle shounen standards, but at least it had some heart to it. The earlier stuff just felt dull and by the numbers, while the Chuunin Exams arc was just a poor man's version of the Hunter Exams arc from HXH, IMO. Everything after that point was just a fluctuation of mediocre story-telling to flat-out boring, drawn out arcs, and then the time skip happened....

....Let's just say that I've never seen such a steep and constant downhill slope in which the descent in the quality of the series literally just kept getting worse and worse. When it got to the point where you thought that it had hit rock bottom and couldn't possibly get any worse than it already was, it would never fail to surprise you and prove you wrong. It's really amazing just how horrible it could get, and the funny thing is that I'm still experiencing that right now as I'm attempting to catch up with it before it ends. It's really something else.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 14, 2014, 11:11:50 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 14, 2014, 10:51:02 PM
You don't have to go through the entire series all over again. You can just skim through the more significantly bad parts. It's easy enough to read plot summaries covering the entire series in detail to refresh your memory, and then just go back to the specific worst parts that you remember, after all, that's what I would do, as opposed to re-reading a 700-chapter long manga in full, which is just insane.

Well, what I was thinking was that I'd go through it an arc or a volume or few at a time, at my own pace, and then write about the development of the story, what worked, what didn't, etc, and from time to time make a point to highlight specific problems that pervaded the entire series. Something akin to series retrospective/episode review blogs, except with volumes/arcs of Naruto, and frequent editorial articles addressing specific problems/characters. It's certainly not something I was going try and marathon read all at once or anything like that.

Basically, it would be sorta a combination of this (http://theappliedlogic.blogspot.com/) and something like JO's Digimon retrospectives.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 14, 2014, 11:38:01 PM
Ah, I see. As for me, it's need to be something that I'm passionate about in order to do a retrospective on the entire thing. JO's Digimon series worked because she was actually very, very into it, and you could tell that she did truly enjoy the series. It's the same with Linkara's History of Power Rangers.

To review a series that you hate, though, really makes the tons of work that goes into it all the more painful, hence why when I do blog about it, I'll just do an entry that covers how pathetically had the final arc was.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 15, 2014, 01:16:44 AM
For various reasons, I never ended up posting up my weekly manga recap for the week before last, which is kind of a shame, since it was a really good week overall. As a consequence, though, I put off reading a lot of the new chapters from last week. So, for a bit of fun, I'm going to do something a bit different this time - a "live" reaction to the chapters. What I mean by that is that I'm just going to read through the chapters one by one, and as I'm going through them, bullet pont spontaneous thoughts that come to my mind. Sort of a stream-of-consciousness sort of thing, you know? I think that might make for a good change of pace, so let's try it out, shall we? Oh, also, I have exactly 20 series to read this time, so this is going to be a loooong one...

A Silent Voice chapter 56

- Per usual, first up is A Silent Voice! After the wonderful reconciliation between Shoya and Shoko's mothers last week, I expect this week will continue showing more resolutions between the characters.

- Oh man, so Shoya has decided to go back to school. How are people going to treat him, after knowing what he's been through? I remember some were doubting that he really saved Shoko, and postulated that he actually tried to push her off the balcony himself, and others still felt indifferent to his plight. Though he's made tremendous strides in becoming a better person and has been through so much to make amends, this previous reputation as an awkward, mean-spirited bully still lingers. He still has a long way to go before he's able to wipe his slate clean. I'm sure, though, that with the help of the people who truly know the kind of person he is, the people who proudly call themselves his friends, will help him accomplish that.

- Yeah, he is really, really nervous. I feel for him. He really wants to change people's perceptions of him, apologize for what he's done in the past. One thing that hits home for me here is him practicing trying to talk to people, because that's something I, personally, still have trouble with. I can really sympathize with him trying to learn how to be more sociable, and make a better impression on people.

- I also love his resolve to not only talk to more people, but to listen to them as well, no matter what they have to say. He's come a long way from the beginning of the series.

- It looks like their going to see Nagatsuka's movie. I was thinking there'd be a few more chapters until that, but that's interesting. Shoya's reaction to it is bound to be very emotional.

- X faces! Wow, we haven't seen those in a while. I guess most of his classmates still feel distant and alien from him.

- Oh Shoya...I feel ya man. But you can't just avoid the problem any longer. You got to keep your head up.

- D'aw...Shoko pulling Shoya around is as adorable as it is hilariously awkward.  :D

- Oh geez, Nagatsuka's movie is fucking dark. And really, really relevant to what Shoko and Shoya have been through. Damn.

- What, Kawai wrote this? I'm as surprised as Shoya. I guess that proves the point that you can never know what they can be truly capable of or the mark of their character unless you really try and get to know them better. Though, in Kawai's case, I don't think her rotten behavior can be forgiven, especially since she's oblivious about it. It'll be interesting to see how Shoya deals with her when they meet again.

- Way to get everyone's attention, Shoya. Oh god, the look on his face. Painful. You can tell he's overwhelmed and uncomfortable with everyone's else being on him. Not only that, but notably, none of them have their faces crossed out. Shoya sees their faces. They see his. He has to deal with other people again; it's now or never. What will he do? What can he say? What will they do? What will they say? God dammit, A Silent Voice, why must you tug at my heartstrings so!

- Wow, I wrote that much on just A Silent Voice? Looks like this is going to be a multi-post write-up at this rate.

Assassination Classroom chapter 103

- Chapter 104 just came out today, but I'll put off reading it for now, since it came out this week, and this write-up is for all the chapters that came last week.

- I like how Nagisa knows how to keep his cool in this situation. Most shonen protagonists would just get mad and blindly attack in a fit of rage, but Nagisa knows better to stick to the plan and not show his anger, though he is infuriated at what's happened to Kayano.

- The Nekodamanshi strategy he used against Takaoka, eh? I like that's not his endgame, though, since there's always the possibility that the God of Death already knows he's capable of it and has a counter-measure. But, in a moment of distraction, his attack will allow the others to get an opening in which to try and take him out. It's a smart plan, though risky, and Nagisa could easily lose his life if he makes one small misstep.

- Oh, so Kayano's ribs aren't broken, then? Well, she is wearing that thick protective gear, so it makes sense. Still, it clearly hurt like hell. God knows what could have happened had she not been wearing it.

- Yeah, Nagisa is still mad about it all right, but he's using that anger to hide his bloodlust. Good plan, let's see if it wo...

- OH FUCK OH FUCK OH FUCK

- Ack, they sure miscalculated there. This guy is crazy skilled to be able to get the timing right in order to stun Nagisa WITH A CLAP and then use the surprise to quickly go and knock everyone else in the room out before they have time to react. This means that both Nagisa AND Karma are out now. Yep, Class E is screwed.

- Holy crap, the way Nagisa is twitching on the floor. Yowch.

- Well, the other teams haven't given up just yet, but I don't see what they can do outside of recapturing Bitch-sensei and retreating. Maybe Itona still has some of his old powers that can help him hold his own in a fight for a little while, and he and Terasaka could potentially make a good team, but I just don't see them turning the tables on this guy unless Korosensei and Karasuma come and bail them out.

- Okay, good, they've rescued Bitch-sensei. Now if they can just find a way to esca...

- WHAT WHAT WHAT BITCH-SENSEI HAS BETRAYED THEM WHAT WHAT WHAT

- Did not see that coming! Like, I remember there were a bunch of spoilers saying that she was gonna die or something, but I guess that was all bullshit, and nobody mentioned anything about this. It makes sense, though. Around Class E she lost sight of her old ways as an assassin and became rusty, and that's what's led her to be on thin ice with the government and Karasuma, and has gotten her nearly fired. Around them, she probably feels like she can't accomplish the assassination mission. But if she works together with the God of Death, she does have a much higher chance.

- But this is pretty ice cold of her to betray her students like that. "God of Death Skill - Instigation?" Hmm, maybe this she under some sort of mind-control or influence? I have to wonder. Of course, there's always the possibility this is a ruse to trick the God of Death and rescue the students from him. If she takes them out, then he can't, and she can prevent any of them from getting killed or seriously injured if she's careful enough. I'm looking forward to seeing which it is as the arc progresses.

Attack on Titan chapter 62

- Blah blah explaining what happened last chapter blah blah.

- Really, Erwin? You would have really been okay with sending your friends to their deaths and handing over Eren to the monarchy for their use? Yes, the monarchy had kept humanity alive until now...but they were also corrupt and much more interested in their own self-preservation than that of humanity. I get that you think it might have been better because even if half of humanity was sacrificed it still wouldn't be extinct, but sooner or later I'd expect their actions combined with dwindling resources would slowly lead humanity to extinction anyway. But I get what this is. Just self-doubts about whether what he did was the right thing. It's still a stupid thought though. There's no going back and no time for a pity parade, and It's kind of out of character for Erwin to be talking like this, since he's never been indecisive or questioned himself before. But not a bad idea to address, at any rate.

- Ho boy, for the life of me I still don't know the names and can't recognize half the characters in this series. I don't remember who this old guy is at all.

- He makes a good point, though. Erwin chose this course of action because he favored the life of himself and his friends over humanity. So he's got to take responsibility for this, and ensure that what he did was the right thing to do after all.

- All this stuff with Levi's group reads dull and basically just amounts to "we're going to rescue Eren now." Could have easily gotten all of this across in way less pages.

- Okay, so not buying that Historia's father is some sort of good guy. He's got Eren chained up and gagged for heaven's sake! It is painfully obvious he has sinister intentions.

- Oh, so Eren ate his father when he transformed into a Titan his first time, and blocked the traumatic experience from his mind until now. Okay. I'm not sure I get how he has his fathers memories....I guess because he ate him? Oh, oh, wait, actually I think I get it now! His father was a human who could transform into a Titan, and he gave Eren a drug that would turn him into a Titan. So now we know that Titan's were once human beings who were just transformed into being Titans by drugs, which explains what happened to Connie's mother all those chapters back. Anyway, then he intentionally had him eat him so that Eren would gain his ability to be a human who could become a Titan at will. Okay, yep, this is all clicking together, explains a lot. Looks like we'll finally be learning more about where the Titans came from and why soon enough.

Bleach chapter 600

- 600 chapters. That is a soul-crushing milestone. To think shit like this has lasted so long makes me fucking depressed.

- This is Bleach, so even though this is a milestone chapter and whatever, I don't think I'll have much to say about it. Or, maybe I will, if enough things piss me off.

- This chapter starts off with a bang! In that a gun is fired. And blows the top half of what's-her-name Squad Zero member's head right off. So much for being one of the most powerful warriors in all of Soul Society.

- I'm reminded now that all the black guys in Bleach just happen to be villains. Except for Yoruichi, but she doesn't ever get to do anything. In general, if you have dark skin in this manga, you are either a bad guy or you are completely ineffective.

- Lots of blood must have been in her head for that much of it to be spilling out like that.

-  This guy has yet another dumb design. All of Kubo's villains seem meant to look cool, but just come off as goofy and weird. Like, this armor-wearing guy that sort of looks like Hawkman. He looks stupid too. How can I take these guys seriously when they look like rejects from Bobobo? Actually, they aren't even worthy to be gag manga villains, since I can take Bobobo villains way more seriously than these guys. I can take a stick of yogurt gum way more seriously as a villain than these guys. A stick of yogurt gum was actually a villain in Bobobo, by the way. It didn't talk. It didn't have any powers. It was not even sentient. It was literally just a stick of yogurt gum. And yet, Jelly Jiggler's "battle" with it proved to be far more entertaining and interesting than anything that happens in Bleach these days. What was my point again? Oh yeah, Kubo's villains are inferior to sticks of yogurt gum. And I hate both yogurt and gum. Putting them together...ick. Bleach is worse than ick. Bleach makes me want to puke. What am I talking about again? Oh, right, this chapter. I have to read the rest of this. (throws up)

- What, you're seriously pissed off he killed her in front of Ywach's path? Why do you give a shit? I'm sure he's capable of walking around a dead body and a pool of blood.

- So I guess this cloak guy has psychic powers, and he uses them to roll the corpse across the floor to...somewhere else on the floor, I guess. Okay.

- I agree with this guy that these Squad Zero guys are fucking disappointing. I do not agree that there is no one who wouldn't keel over and faint at the likes of them, because if I met these guys in real life, I think I would just laugh myself to death because of how dumb they look.

- Wasted panel space! Close ups of eyes! Bleach is soooo stylish, everybody!

- Yeah, so she's not dead. So the entire first half of this chapter was classic Bleach fake-out bullshit. Wheee. And basically this whole thing was just Fake Karakura Town all over again, pretty much. And now you go and tell your enemy where the real Soul King's palace is. Smaaaarrrttt.

- A cage made out of trees, huh? That's so cool and interesting, especially because they look exactly like regular old trees and must be so easy to draw. Good work, fat chick who's name I can't remember.

- Oh god Onetsu's back. Please no.

- Onestu's schtick is not funny Kubo. He is not cool either. No one cares about him. No one cares about Squad Zero. No one cares about these grunt villains you introduced a damn chapter ago. AND NO ONE GIVES A SHIT OF SEEING THESE GUYS FIGHT WHATSOEVER. GAHHHH!!!

- And so the true battle of Squad Zero is about to start. Except that this this chapter is over now. Woo.

- Vlord was right, Bleach celebrated it's 600th chapter in a very special brand of stupid. I love how nobody important in the story got featured in this chapter all to set up a fight that no one wants to see. But I'm too tired to rant more about this crap now, so let's just move on to something better. Congrats on 600 chapters of mediocrity, Bleach. I hope to god you don't make it to 700.

Fuuka chapter 34

- I hope Fuuka is just what I need to get the horrible taste of Bleach out of my mouth.

- Hmm, looks like this will be a stand-alone chapter. Could be funny.

- When is the right time to kiss a girl? That's a tricky question. I think that Yuu should just wait until the moment feels right, and not worry about any specifics or anything.

- One thing's for sure, he should not be taking advice about this from an unromantic jock and a playboy gay man. These two are like the worst people he could ask for advice on this subject.

- See, they are giving him advice based off of stuff they've read in manga and from one-night stands. They can't help you out here, man.

-  "Check it out! This is awesome!" "What, is that a porn video?"  :D

- When your real friends can't give you good advice for shit, ask your twitter friends!...who you know in real life.

- Sara is yet another bad person for him to talk to about this, since she's infatuated with him and doesn't know he and Fuuka are an item yet.

- Yep, see, misunderstanding! She thinks this is a roundabout way of asking her out/giving her a love confession. This is going to be awk~waaaarrdd!!!

- "It's..TH-THE WALL SLAM!"  :lol:

- Oh god, Sara's dialogue in this chapter is fucking hysterical. I can't stop laughing. This is some good romantic comedy right here.

-  Well, in an unintentional way, looks like Sara has given Yuu the idea to do basically what I said he should do; go with the moment.

- I love how confused Sara is at what just happened. Poor girl.

- Yeah, y'know, that's right. He and Fuuka are going out. It's not weird for them to just kiss when they feel like it, and there's no reason to be worried/nervous about it, he should just do it. Go for it, Yuu-kun!

- Aw...way to wimp out, Yuu.

- D'aw...way to be awesome, Fuuka!

- I always love how Fuuka doesn't worry too much about shit and just does what her heart tells her to in the moment. She's so free-spirited, but in a good way, and that's a breath of fresh air in this climate of archetypical and cliche anime/manga romantic heroines.

- Uh oh, looks like the cat's out of the bag! Looks like everyone's going to know their dating know. Well, they couldn't keep it a secret forever, anyways. They shouldn't need to hide it either. Everyone in this manga actually acts like real people, so I doubt anyone is going to get pissy about it or anything, or really care all that much anyways.

- I like how we get to see Yuu and Fuuka deal with actual relationship issues and problems. In fact, I like the fact that they are in an official relationship, so early on into this series. So, so many other anime and manga spent their entire series teasing the characters will become a couple, and go in and out of repetitive pre-relationship non-issues and the love/hate phase way, way too much. The characters getting together is the end. We tend to never see anything after that. It's so rare to see an anime manga couple in a serious, non-comedic relationship, and deal with issues in that relationship, and see it develop past just the beginning. So I really appreciate this, and chapters like these, especially when they are well-done with a dose of reality and really darn funny to boot. Now the plot will start moving again with this week's chapter, I'm sure, but I'm just as excited to see Fuuka and Yuu's relationship develop as much as I am their music careers. This series is such an underrated gem, and I'm loving it.

- So yeah, this week's Fuuka has washed the Bleach stains out of my brain and then some. Thank you, Fuuka, thank you. So...what's next?

GTO: Paradise Lost chapter 13

- ....:imnothappy:....

- To be fair, the last chapter wasn't that bad, just kinda meh. Maybe this chapter won't be shit either? I hope so...

- Eikichi Onizuka, school-girl loving teacher vs. Sadako the Giant, yaoi-loving fan-girl. Forks vs. Knife. The match of the century.

- I did not need to know how big Onizuka's junk is. Then again...what kind of turtle are we talking about, here?

- Onizuka is still a badass, at least. Too bad this fight is lame as fuck.

- The supposedly ugly girl actually being cute is such a cliche.

- "...Sheesh. They say love is blind...but this one's deaf and mute too!"

- So, Onizuka let himself get stabbed. Yeah, I can see where this is all going. I am curious as to who this "friend" is that Onizuka is going to call. Would be nice to see one of the old students or his other pals from Shonan Junai Gumi besides Ryuuji again.

- All in all, I guess it wasn't an awful chapter. It just doesn't do much for me because this is the same kind of stuff that always happens in GTO except not as good because the other characters aren't interesting/sympathetic/likable at all. At least with chapters like this, though, I'm not bored to death, so I guess that's a step up.

The Heroic Legend of Arslan chapter 16

- I feel bad for these slaves. They just got screwed over again. Should've known that they can't trust these fucking people, though.

- HOW DARE THEY ASK FOR CIVIL RIGHTS! BURRRRNNN THEM!

- HOW DARE SHE REFUSE TO MARRY OUR KING! BURRRRNNNN HER!

- HOW DARE HE QUESTION THE LOGIC OF BURNING VALUABLE MEDICAL TEXTS! BURRRRNNNNN HIM!

-  Cliche crazy religious fanatic is cliche.

- Dull chapter, but at least Narsus and Daryun are going to kick some ass next time, hopefully.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 15, 2014, 01:17:10 AM
Hinomaru Zumo chapters 1-3

- This is a Jump series that only just started recently, but has already became an overnight success, apparently. New chapters have ranked consistently in the top 5 of the magazine since it's debut. That caught my attention, so I wanted to check it out. As it happened, the first three chapters have been translated, the third one having just been released last week. So, let's dive in and see if this series is any good, shall we?

- The only series about sumo I've experienced is Matsutaro. I only watched the first episode of that one, though, and the less said about it the better. Admittedly, there wasn't any sumo in that episode, though. In any case, I can't believe a sumo manga is actually popular with Jump readers these days, though. Let's see how they make this concept work.

- Okay, so I guess the goal of the manga is to become a "Yokozuna," the highest rank in the sumo world.

- Obviously, a fat main character who looks like most sumo wrestlers would wouldn't be popular with young readers, so let's make him a muscle-buff but thin dude! At least he isn't bishonen, I guess, but still, this kind of annoys me a little. Why make a sumo manga unless you go all the way? Then again, I'm sure there are thin sumo wrestlers, so maybe I'm just nitpicking based on provincial perceptions and whatnot.

- The group shot makes me wonder if we'll see any female sumo wrestlers. I looked it up, and it IS a thing, so who knows? Probably not, though.

- This guy seems like your typical good natured comical shonen protagonist so far. Seems likable enough, though.

- I'm always amused at how pushy club activities teams are in shonen manga.

- "FOOTBALL IS FRIENDSHIP!"

- "Club Welcoming Road?" I wonder if this is meant to be some sort of absurd satire.

- Sigh...why does every sports team in shonen manga these days have to start out as "failing?" these days. I'm getting rather tired of this cliche.

- Come to think of it, haven't all the main characters in recent Jump sports manga been short and unassuming? Kuroko, Hinata, and now Hinomaru. I guess Jump readers relate better to nonathletic looking main characters who still accomplish big results, because it makes them feel they can do it too... if they work hard! I can be down with giving positive inspiration to young'uns, but at the same time I'm getting annoyed that this is becoming a whole new cliche in itself.

- ...And just like Hinata, though this guy loves Sumo, he wasn't able to play much with other people in Middle School or participate in official matches. Ehmmm.

- So it looks like a bunch of bullies turned the Sumo Dojo into a fighting ring. I think we all know where this is going...

- This Oozeki guy is pretty spineless. I think this is the most desperate a club leader I've seen in a manga.

- This Yuuma guy was in the opening spread, so I'm guessing when Hinomaru beats the shit out of him, he'll make a heel face turn and join the Sumo club.

- This is all cliche stuff so far, but pretty likable nonetheless.

- I wish that the mangaka had Oozeki fight Yuuma before Hinomaru. It's good that he does have guts, but I'd have liked too see him try and give his all to protect the club and his teammate by himself before Hinomaru came and helped out.

- But I like how Hinomaru's won by not fighting. He just stood there in one place and took his blows for fifteen minutes straight, never budging in inch or showing any pain. Considering sumo wrestlers do need to have that kind of resilience, that's kind of a cool thing to show.

- Damn! That was one serious headbutt!

- Looks like this Yuuma guy does have a sense of honor after all. A loss is a loss. Well, like I said, I'm pretty sure he's going to join the sumo club, so he needs to have some redeemable qualities.

- Alright! Chapter two...start!

- I like the dichotomy between Oozeki's description of the school and it's actual appearance.

- Lol, delinquents.

- The delinquents are scared of the sumo club, huh? Hmm...

- Now these are what I think of when I think of sumo wrestlers! Big, bald fat and muscle-buff guys!

- Oh, so they went to the wrong school. That makes sense. I couldn't imagine Oozeki training with these guys.

- And they just happen to be the second strongest team in Kanto! Oh ho, of course they are.

- I guess that stomping thing is way, way more difficult than it looks.

- So Hinomaru was famous back in elementary school, huh? Maru the Demon.

- Oh, looks like we'll see an actual sumo match now! It's the classic "if I lose I will quit" schtick, so obviously Hinomaru will win, but this should be interesting to see regardless.

- Chapter 3, welp, I'm pretty sure this match ain't going to be only one chapter long, but let's see how much happens.

- I like that the main character acknowledges his weaknesses compared to other sumo wrestlers, namely his height and mass, and that's why he actually wasn't able to do much in middle school. But he used those three years to train himself and erase that handicap with experience.

- Though, as I said, this concept has been done before, I do find this execution very palatable and enjoyable.

- Also, I guess I was wrong about this match going to last more than this chapter after all. Hooray for good pacing!

- Wait, ah man, does this mean I'm done already? But...I want to read more...

- So, overall, while a typical set-up for a shonen sports manga so far, with the expected situations and cliches, Hinomaru Zumo still managed to entertain me with it's simple but likable characters and excellent artwork and action sequences. In fact, if I were to compare these three chapters to the first three chapters of both Kuroko and Haikyuu!, I would actually say I enjoyed them more, and that this series has started off much stronger for me than they did. Part of it is because it's focus is only on a few main characters so far, unlike the other two, which introduced the other cast quickly early on. Another thing, though, is a simple combination of good artwork, pacing, and the execution of it's story telling elements, which made for a much better page-turning experience. Haikyuu! is better as an anime, from what I've seen, and the manga starts off super slow for me and the combination of it's messy art, cluttered panels, and somewhat overuse of tired shonen gags makes it very difficult for me to marathon read it, which is why when I do try to I usually only get through a chapter before stopping for the day. Kuroko had a much more addictive quality at the start thanks to good pacing and an interesting concept, but it also took a while for me to grow to actually care about Kuroko and Kagami. Perhaps it's because these are character archetypes that I can get more into, but I already do want to see more of Hinomaru, and see what kind of character arcs Oozeki and Yuuma go through. Perhaps this is also why Jump readers have latched on to this series much faster than they did Kuroko and Haikyuu! as well. At any rate, while it's too soon to tell whether this series will be good or not in the long run, or whether it will evolve beyond the basic shonen series cliches and tropes it's presented so far , I can say that it has got my attention and makes me want to read more of it, and I look forward to keeping up with this series and see where it goes from now.

Magi chapter 242

- Like Judar, I too wonder what's happening in the capital now that Hakuryu has taken it over. After all, people aren't just going to accept him taking the throne this easily.

- Ah, martial law. Hakuryu is already off to a fine start as a tyrant.

- Hmm, Hakuryu got the two generals that once served by the previous emperor on his side, huh? How'd he manage that?

- So Hakuryu got two new metal vessels, and used them to mind-control Al Thamen magicians to side with him. Judar seems oddly annoyed by the fact he doesn't have any allies who legitimately sided with him by their free will, though Hakuryu doesn't seem to really care about it.

- ...Don't we already know everything about Hakuryu's backstory? Do we really need to see it again?

- Okay, who says things like that? Hakuryu must have been quite the precocious brat.

- ...Not digging how Hakuryu is just narrating his backstory like this. It's lame enough that it's nothing that we already didn't know, but couldn't Ohtaka at least just shown instead of having everything be told like this? That would have been a much more interesting way to read all this.

- Well, I guess we know for sure that Gyokuen is actually still alive.

- Some people have been comparing him to Sasuke, but I don't see it outside of the basic gist of both of them wanting revenge and getting it by killing a former loved on. Imo, Hakuryu is a revenge-driven character done right, with objectives beyond just revenge, and a much more interesting personality and self-awareness.

- I really wish this chapter was less narration heavy, though, because it was kind of boring to read overall. Eh, maybe next time things will pick up again.

Magi: Adventure of Sinbad chapters 36-37

- Now on to the prequel series.

- Dragul is back in Partevia, and it's seen better days.

- Looks like Serendine is about to be wed off to Barbarossa. Dragul will probably be able to intercept her before then, though.

- Yep, reunion.

- I'm assuming their escape attempt wont end well, as this set-up seems to demand failure so that Dragul can find reason to ally with Sinbad once again.

- Serendine is very pragmatic, it seems.

- Whoa...Drakon's brother is Seto Kaiba!

- I know this guy has an actual name, but fuck it, he looks like Kaiba, I'm calling him Kaiba.

- "Big brother, isn't copyright infringement against the rules?" "Screw the rules, I have a fair use policy!"

- I think trying to kill your brother in cold blood is much more rude, dude. Give Moku...er, Drakon a break!

- Four Heavenly Generals? At least they aren't based on or named after the 4 Holy Beasts for the umpteenth time in a shonen series.

- The fuck kind of name is Zayzafoon?

- Why is there a little kid a general in this army? And what kind of horrible parents would give their kid the name Rotter?

- Remember kids, if someone is giving a creepy grin in a manga/anime series, 99% of the time they will turn out to be sadists. That, or they're insane. Or both.

- This guy fights using rats? He must be rotten, then.

- So the rats crawl all over him and transform him into a giant rat-thing? That's probably the weirdest power I've seen in this series yet.

- Looks like Drakon is about to activate his Household Vessel powers.

- Ho, Serendine's handmaids can kick ass!

- Oh. Well, that didn't last long.

- Drakon has his dragon arms now! It'll probably take a while, but I can't wait to see how his entire body ends up like we see it in the main series.

- So Rotter was once a street rat, and now he's an actual giant rat. The irony.

- Uh oh, looks like Kaiba's pissed. But he's Kaiba, so he's like emo-pissed. 

- Oh no, Kaiba has an Egyptian God car-er, I mean a Metal Vessel!

- For a second there I was expecting his Djinn Equip to make him look like Obelisk the Tormentor. How hilarious would that have been? He sorta looks like he's wearing the Wing Dragon of Ra's armor, though.

- That's right Drakon, it's time to DO DO DUEL, DO DO DUEL, DUUUUUUUEEEEELLLLLLL!!!!

- Except not right now, because the chapter is over.

Magic Kaito chapters 31-32

- I can't believe it's been over two years since the last Magic Kaito chapters were released. Good to have you back Kaito!...for three chapters, at least.

- Kaito remembering the poker face speech from the first chapter? Geez, this surely can't be an obvious attempt to tie in with the first episode of the new anime, is it now?

- Kaito Kid is always fabulous.

- Hah! Hakuba and Nakamori sure got Kaito fooled.

- "I only told Aoko I had a cold, so how does Kid know?" I love how clueless Nakamori is.

- Double disguise? That's all it took to fool them. Maybe they were expecting something more flashy from Kid. Still, I guess nobody would really think Kid would use such a strategy, and the fact he knocked out the guy he was impersonating led credibility to the ruse.

- I guess this "old guy" will be the antagonist for this new mini-arc.

- Oh Hakuba, if only you knew what you've just done?  :il_hahaha:

- The Hedgehog is not a very intimidating name for a villain.

- That's one heck of an "anti-freezing system" you've got there, Kaito.  :D

- Kaito Corbeau? Kid has a dark counterpart now?

- Ah man, I just love how Kid's encounter with Corbeau mirrors the first time Conan encountered Kid. Awesome nod.

- Whoa, looks like this guy was one of Kaito's father's peers.

- And he's just as skilled as Kaito, if not moreso. This should be an interesting face-off.

- Oh, look who's home!

- I have a feeling Kaito's mother is actually Corbeau. I mean, she's been in Las Vegas this whole time, and Corbeau apparently got his start there, so...

- Well, looks like Kaito's figured out Corbeau's trick! Can't wait to see him go toe to toe with the guy in the next chapter. It's really too bad we don't get new Magic Kaito chapters that often. It's such a fun series.

Naruto chapter 695

- Naruto, on the other hand, is the antithesis of a fun series.

- Welp, so we're finally at the long-awaited rematch between Naruto and Sasuke. This shit has been built up for ten fucking years, over 450 chapters. Let's see if it's worth it...(though I already know it won't be)...

- Their arm bones should already be broken from that impact, but okay, manga-logic and whatnot.

- Move forward, step back! The classic strategy!

- The fuck is with the cover spread? Realistic looking Naruto and Sasuke look horrifying. And horrible. I can fucking see the brush and ink strokes, and it looks ugly as fuck. Bleck.

- ...It strikes me that I can't find anything to say about the action in this chapter. It's just kinda dull and there. I guess the Susanoo and Naruto's Jinchuriki form clashing fists is kind of a neat page, but it seems a bit quick that things escalated to this point already.

- Oh god, flashbacks. FLASHBACKS. WHY NOW THE FIGHT WAS NOT EVEN TEN PAGES LONG GOD DAMMIT.

- They seriously just wasted five pages on flashbacks.

- Blah blah I don't want to kill you blah blah you are mah friend blah blah.

- Just turn your back on him Naruto. Sasuke deserves no second chances. He is an asshole.

- EXPLOSIONS!!! WOOO!!!!

- ...The fuck? Are they in some sort of spirit form now? And the fight is over now? Are you telling me, that people have waited TEN fucking years and 450 fucking chapters for a one chapter fight where one fourth of it was completely wasted on flashbacks and repetitive dialogue?

- ....

- ....

- ...

-...Fuck you, Naruto.

-...Fuck you, Kishimoto.

- ...Fuck you, Weekly Shonen Jump.

- ...FUCK THIS SERIES AND EVERYBODY WHO ASSOCIATES WITH IT. YOU SHOULD ALL BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES. IN THE IMMORTAL WORDS OF DON PATCH:

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- Nah, but, seriously, that was some super lame shit. And now we have to endure more lame Talk no Jutsu for the remaining chapters, I bet. Ugh...

Oishii Kamishama chapters 1-2

- Geez, Tohru Fujisawa is really spreading himself thin, isn't he? This makes, what, 4 currently running manga he's drawing? And yet none of them are good. Well, no, 2 of them aren't good. I still can't judge much of Shonan Seven because only the first chapter has been translated. As for this series, well, let's find out right now. I'm not keeping my fingers crossed, but hey, at least it's not another delinquent manga/GTO spinoff from him, so at least it will be different...

- A story about a god that resides in trout sushi? This is my kind of concept. Please let this be good.

- Uh, I'm confused. Who is talking in this scene?

- ...Could've done without a fanservice scene, especially this early on. Mmm...not a good omen.

- Wait, the fuck, that was an entire chapter? That was only, like, 8 pages! And nothing happened! What, was that fanservice scene supposed to be the entire joke of the chapter? Because if it was, well, it sure was not funny I'll tell you that much.

- ...Maybe the second chapter will be better.

- Okay...so there's a different god in this chapter. The god of the Loach pot.

- ...Nothing happened in this one either. Just the God explaining the history of the Loach pot. And another stupid fanservice scene.

- ...I guess the only point of this manga is to promote local cuisine. It's basically a glorified advertisement for obscure japanese dishes. It's humorless and there's certainly not going to be any plot to speak of, as far as I can tell. Yeah...another dud by Fujisawa, it seems. Won't keep up with this.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 15, 2014, 01:18:37 AM
One Piece chapter 763

- So it seems that after Doflamingo's family became former Tennryubito, they were ostracized and tortured by those they used to abuse. Very karmic.

- Dang, this is some messed up stuff. Doflamingo got a fucking arrow shot into his chest. No wonder he's so fucked up.

- Yeah, he was clearly traumatized by this stuff. It's interesting to see Doflamingo be so vulnerable like this, haunted by the memories of his past. Having once had everything, he was cast into a life of misery when he was still a young child, who didn't really know that the life he was living was at the expense of others until he suffered the same treatment he once gave them. Instead of humbling him, though, that just made him desire returning to the top and reclaiming his status again above all else, and this explains his overall ambition to become so powerful that his way of life couldn't be put at risk again, explaining his vast network of connections and various enterprises, which serve to protect him and maintain his wealth and influence.

- Yeah...Doflamingo wrought his own misfortune all right. Because of his upbringing, his way of the world was so radically different as a Tenrubito that he didn't understand that all of it came at the expense of people who were just as human as he was. And because of his behavior, he ended up costing his family an innocuous life, and for the first time in his life he felt things like hunger. Though his father was the one who gave up their status as nobles, it was his naivety and warped view of the world that actually forced him into a horrible childhood, led his mother to her death, cost his brother his voice, and of course, led him to kill his own father. Essentially, he destroyed his entire life and family, all by just telling people that he was once a tenryubtio, and trying to force them to bow down. That's some harsh shit.

- Like I expected, Corazon didn't tell on Law. I wonder what his reason not to was.

- I enjoy seeing how the Doflamingo family used to operate. Especially since a lot in this montage shows that they really considered themselves a genuine family. My favorite scene in this sequence is when Law and Baby 5 are fighting that big pirate and nearly get killed, but Doflamingo comes along and rescues them, and though he doesn't comfort them directly, there's this look on his face that shows that he wasn't going to let anyone hurt one of his own, and just lets a  crying Baby 5 continue clinging to his leg. I also love these scenes where the family is teaching Law things, some of them showing him tough love, but it really does seem they care about him. There are quite a few villain groups in OP that we've seen be close to each other, but never quite as intimately as we're seeing here.

- Yeah, so Law is a D. Shocker. I'm curious as to the significance of his surname,  Water, since he makes a point of mentioning that it's taboo for him to acknowledge it for some reason.

- Wait, Corazon can speak? Huh, I wonder why he would hide this from people, especially his own brother?

- Why is it dangerous for a D like Law to be near Doflamingo. I guess this secret is what ends up causing the fallout of events from here, which leads Law to be indebted to Corazon and Corazon to lose his life.

- This was a pretty great chapter, actually. I liked the layers to Doflamingo and the Doflamingo family, and seeing how Law integrated as a genuine member of the family. I'm very interested in seeing how this develops.

One-Punch Man chapter 56

- Ha, Genos exploded a fire-extinguisher on the metal man!.

- Uh, I don't the city is going to be pleased that you've flooded it, Genos.

- Ooh, a makeshift steam cover! Clever!

- I find it hard to say anything else about this chapter, since it's short and most of it was focused on the fight between Genos and the metal man. It was excellent action as ever, though, and a treat to read, but I find myself more interested in seeing how Saitama will convince King to truly live up to his status as a hero, so I hope we focus more on them in the next chapter.

Peephole chapter 42

- Looks like there's a new character, and this guy seems to be a crazy back-alley surgeon.

- He's apart of the yakuza group that Miyachi took out last time, eh? I guess we've found our new antagonist for this arc.

- This guy is connected to Fujiura somehow? Uh oh.

- Whoa, this guy is fucked up. It seems he's a killer out for Miyachi's heart. Both figuratively and literally.

- He just hung a guy to death. This Sakaki guy is merciless.

- "My...Hole..." What the hell kind of line is that? Weird.

- Haruko is out of the story for a while, I guess. I'm sure she'll be back in due time to try and out Miyachi and Kurosu's murders at some point, though.

- TWINS WHO LOOK JUST LIKE FUJIURA? OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT

- Kurosu is so screwed. I guess Fujiura's entire family was a family of psycopaths, and now they're all after him. I'm guessing Sakaki is also a relative of hers too. Ho boy, I can tell this will be one crazy, messed-up arc, all right.

The Seven Deadly Sins chapter 97

- You are very sad, Elizabeth. Girl, you should be pissed the fuck off! Hendricksen fucking killed Hawk goddamit!

- It makes much more sense why Hendricksen needed her as a sacrifice now that we know she's a disciple of the goddess.

- ENERGY FIELD BATTLE!

- This scene reminds me of when Gohan unlocked his hidden power and became a Super Saiyan 2, for some reason.

- Looks like Elizabeth released some sort of energy that is healing everyone's wounds and rejuvenating plant life.

- I guess her power is able to bring people back to life too? Hey, in that case maybe Hawk will come back to li-

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- ...Oh.

- I guess she can't bring people back to life, then. That's good. Limits to her power, and whatnot.

- DROP KICK!

- Geez, that sure left a mark!

- THE SEVEN DEADLY SINS ARE HERE! Except there's only five of them...and one of them isn't in the panel for some reason...so four...yeah...

- Some people have criticized the development of Elizabeth's healing powers as a cliche. Yeah, it is, and definitely convenient in turning the tide of the battle back in the favor of the heroes. However, this twist has been set up since the earliest chapters of this series and been foreshadowed at several points. Moreover, it explains details as to why Hendricksen needed her, specifically, as a sacrifice, and why he was cautious about her, which clears up that plot detail. Moreover, in the context of the moment, her powers did not resolve the crises that awakened them - Hawk's death. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure Hawk will be brought back to life, somehow, but it's clear that 1. Elizabeth can't bring people back to life and 2. She doesn't know how to control her powers in the first place. Instead, this plays as a favorable accident, and this development should allow Elizabeth, who is the least developed member of the main cast, to finally have an avenue in which to get better character development. Her role as a "healer" is definitely a cliche archetype, but one that I could see interesting things being done with if handled correctly.

- This chapters reminds me that Sins, despite how much I do like it, is a very straightforward battle-shonen in every respect, arguably even "generic." In fact, watching the early material in the anime reminds me of how boring it was in the beginning because of that. I really didn't like this series at first, but somehow, though it hasn't done anything I haven't seen in other series before, the combination of all it's elements, and general good writing, make it something I not only enjoy reading on a week to week basis, but something I'm excited to do so. I've said this before, but Sins is a typical shonen, but a well-done one nonetheless. It's written competently and follows through on it's set-ups and character arcs, and knows to prioritize good story and characters over epic action or coolness or whatever. It might be generic, but not in any bad ways, and hence manages to be very enjoyable to read. While I'm not crazy about this chapter and the development in it's self, because it was executed correctly and soundly story-wise, and as such, there's not much I can fault it for. In fact, I'm looking forward to the next chapter, and seeing the Sins and friends take out Hendricksen once and for all. While Sins is a basic battle-shonen in most respects, it also is one that genuinely entertains, and really, that's all I care about anyway.

Shokugeki no Soma chapter 89

- Rip that contract! Yeah!

- I like how Mimasaka just suddenly starts referring to himself in the third person.

- Oh god, Soma is having Mimasaka taste his dish.

- Yep. YEP. Here it comes!

- FLASHBACK!...not what I was expecting. I thought we'd just see the usual ecstasy moment, but I guess that'll come later. 

- Young Mimasaka has some huge lips, geez.

- I guess big lips run in the family.

- Of course Mimasaka has daddy issues.  ::)

- Huh, you mean THAT's how Mimasaka adopted his copycat strategy? His father was just a dick to him after he improved his dish and sent him away to Tootsuki, and he came to the conclusion that meant his father was worried that he would outshine him? I was expecting something...actually, I wasn't expecting a backstory for Mimasaka at all. How Mimasaka got to his way of thinking just kind of feels a bit contrived.

- Yay, everyone is getting their cooking tools back! The part where a total stranger thanks Soma for helping her get back a memento from her mother that Mimasaka confiscated is a nice scene.

-  Mimasaka: "I'm going to stop cooking now" Soma's response: smack him on the head with a karate chop.

- Woo, Takumi is prideful, and he wants a rematch with Mimasaka! It looks like he and Mimasaka might become rivals.

- Oh now here we go, ecstasy scene~

- OH GOD YES YES YES YES I CAN'T STOP LAUGHING YES!

- God is this series awesome.

- Oh Erina, you tsundere, you.

- Aw yeah, now it's time for Akira vs. Kurokiba! This should be one hell of a badass cooking match. Yeah, I know Akira is probably going to win so that Soma can have his rematch with him...but who the fuck cares, like the Mimasaka match the execution is going to make this fucking awesome. I can't wait!  ;D

Shuriken to Pleats chapter 1

- This is a new series from the creator of Vampire Knight. I have not seen much of VK, and I did not like what I have seen, but since it's one of the most popular modern shojo, I figured I should at least try and check out the author's newest work, since it'll probably become a hit too. Who knows, maybe it will actually be good?

- Okay, so this series takes place during the Meiji Restoration. Thank god this isn't another shojo set in a High School.

- Oh...scratch that, this series takes place in the time period...but the setting is in London, not Japan. I'm pretty sure schools existed in England back then...so...not out of the woods yet.

- Maids. Another bad sign.

- Ninja Maids. Less of a bad sign.

- This girl's overprotective attitude towards her master has raises more red flags.

- Wow, that was some clunky exposition. Who the hell would say something like that in that situation?

- So she's a ninja for hire? This is an interesting concept.

- So she met the guy when she was a little girl...uh oh. Another red flag.

- This guy sure likes to mention the fact his wife and daughter are dead a whole lot, doesn't he?

- This guy's wife was japanese. What a small world.

- Ugh...I do not appreciate this cliche shojoshit dialogue.

- This is not stuff real people say.

- OH OF COURSE SHE'S JUST LIKE HIS DECEASED WIFE  :srs:

- UGH UGHHH UGHHHHHH

- This is not a good foundation for a romance.

- Well...at least he doesn't have romantic feelings for her...at least for now. Then again, it wouldn't be the first time in a shojo that the father-figure ends up being the romantic love interest...

- Aw, of course, she's going to go to fucking school. In Japan no less. Because a series about ninjas working in the shadows of mid-19th century London is soooo less interesting.  :whuh:

- Well...he's dead. Okay.

- That's convenient.

- ...That looks absolutely nothing like Meiji era Japan.

- I guess there's still going to be ninja action...supposedly

- Yeah...this is a generic as fuck shojoshit in all the worst ways. Not interested.

Toriko chapter 296

- All right, last series, Toriko! Finally...

- I still can't believe there's a fucking shark who's body is a train in this series. Now that's just silly.  :D

- And the end of it's body there's a large caboose that conveniently can house everyone's giant animal pets? Come on.  :lol:

- "GIANT SEA URCHINS ARE RAINING DOWN ON US!"

- What, that's flower pollen? Must be from one giant-ass flower, then.

- Hoo...looks like they don't call it the gigantic continent for nothing!

- It's as big as the entire size of our earth? Daaaammnnn....

- UH OH KILLER MONKEYS

- Shoot first, ask questions later!

- Zebra don't follow your shitty rules, ass-face! Zebra MAKES the rules. No, he IS the rule! He don't conform to you, you adapt to him!

- That monkey sure had one death heck of a death wish. No one who fucks with Zebra lives to tell about it.

- That said, he called out for help before he died, so the gang is in some hot water now. I can't wait to see to see how things escalate from here.

.....

And, I'm done. That took for-fucking-ever. I've basically been writing this on and off throughout the whole day. Don't get me wrong, it was a nice change from what I usually do, and I had fun with it. But yeah...I don't think I'll be doing this kind of thing very often.

Rankings:

1. A Silent Voice - 10/10
2. Assassination Classroom - 9.5/10
3. One Piece - 9/10
4. Shokugeki no Soma - 9/10
5. Fuuka - 9/10
6. Magic Kaito - 8.5/10
7. Hinomaru Zumo - 8/10
8. Toriko - 8/10
9. Magi: Adventure of Sinbad - 8/10
10. Peephole - 8/10
11. One-Punch Man - 8/10
12. The Seven Deadly Sins - 7/10
13. Attack on Titan - 7/10
14. Magi - 7/10
15. The Heroic Legend of Arslan - 6/10
16. GTO: Paradise Lost - 5/10
17. Shuriken to Pleats 1/10
18. Naruto - 1/10
19. Oishii Kamishama - 1/10
20. Bleach - 1/10

This was actually a pretty bad week. Not irredeemable, obviously, but exceptionally and surprisingly below average. Almost half of these series were mediocre or shit this week, and half of the rest were only just good, but not great. I would the series in my top 5 for this week were highly enjoyable and legitimately great enough to make up for that, in terms of how much I enjoyed them outweighing how much I didn't the worst stuff here, but this was definitely one of the weakest weeks I've experienced in a long, long time. Of the three new series I tried out this week, the only one I'll be keeping tabs on is Hinomaru Zumo, since that made a good first impression on me. The other two were terrible, though. Rather I didn't even try them. But, trial and error is the only way to discover good new stuff, after all. And there's still a heck of a lot I have on my list to look into in the future.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 15, 2014, 01:39:01 AM
Nice impressions.

The silliest part about Naruto is after everything he has gained, there is no chance Sasuke should be anywhere near his league, but Kishimoto has never been consistent in regards to anything regarding strength or techniques. At least this series will be over soon. Hopefully Bleach won't be too far after it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Rynnec on October 15, 2014, 01:59:18 AM
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- ...The fuck? Are they in some sort of spirit form now? And the fight is over now? Are you telling me, that people have waited TEN fucking years and 450 fucking chapters for a one chapter fight where one fourth of it was completely wasted on flashbacks and repetitive dialogue?

You know, as much crap as we all (deservedly) give Naruto, at least there was a chance, however small, where we could all say that "well, at least that final battle was awesome!" and lo and behold, Kishimoto couldn't even get that right.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 15, 2014, 01:56:51 PM
Actually, that fight being unbelievably (and mercifully) short sounds like a good thing to me. I say this because Kishimoto has NEVER been good with drawing fights. His art style for action scenes is way too all over the place and hard to follow, and his concept of "strategy" is just to give each a guy a new super powerful ninjutsu that you never heard of until just now because he made it up on the spot. And hell, the ninjutsu aren't even creative anymore. It's just some more powerful use of a Chakra that is more "explodey" than the previous attacks, and the battle just comes down to whoever is the more important character is going to win. I hate how long some of these battles have lasted since they are actually more boring to endure than even the main story, which in and of itself can at least be amusing to rip to shreds for how badly written it is. So, yeah, I'm glad that this fight is short. It was never going to be good, anyways. Hell, the first fight between those 2 was pretty lame, IMO. It just came down to them trading a few blows and then using their special attacks on each other, but Sasuke won....just because Kishimoto has a hard-on for him or something.

Also, this goes without saying, but Sasuke is one of the most horrendously written characters in all of fiction. The fact that he even still has a fan base (Korra even had one to begin with) almost makes me lose my faith in manga and anime fans entirely. That said, if you've ever wanted to see a version of his character archetype done right, that can easily be summed up in just one name: Kurapika.

Seriously, I could do an entire blog or even a series just picking apart everything done so badly about Sasuke's character that Kurapika from HXH just nails down perfectly. The thing is that, Kishimoto definitely intended for you to sympathize with Sasuke, but he's such a despicable character that you just end up loathing him. Kurapika is a legitimately likable character despite being the dark and brooding type, and unlike Sasuke, his character development actually makes fucking sense.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 15, 2014, 11:24:04 PM
So now Naruto and Sasuke are the reincarnations of 2 legendary Shinobi, who were the sons of that 6-paths hermit or whatever, that we conveniently never heard about until now. What even is the point of this twist when there was no established importance on this backstory that Kishimoto just made up? How much more is he going to pull out of his ass before this is all done?

Seriously, shit like this really makes you appreciate mangaka like Fujimaki Tadatoshi. Yeah I went there. Compared to this shit, even the shitty parts of KnB somehow seem legitimately decent. At least Tadatoshi didn't pull out some crazy plot twist that there was some mastermind in the GOM that was never mentioned before and somehow forced the rest of the members to become complete assholes, and that he's the true final challenge and Akashi was just his puppet. I swear to god, if Kishimoto was writings KnB, that'd totally be a thing.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 15, 2014, 11:37:46 PM
Well, actually the Sage of Six Paths had been brought up a few times throughout the series, since all the way back in the Hunt for Itachi arc. But the whole thing about his sons serves only to portray Naruto and Sasuke as fated rivals and the inheritors of a long-standing grudge that has existed all the way back since the beginning of the ninja world. Essentially, to show them as "messiah figures" who are now going to write all the wrongs of the past, a bullshit development serving to just to once again continue to beat the dead horse of how awesome Naruto and Sasuke are again and again.

Also, the flashback establishes Kaguya, so that Kishimoto could replace Madara with her to be the main villain of the series, because he realized Madara was so OP that he couldn't think of a way for the group to defeat him, whereas while Kaguya might technically be stronger, she could be defeated in an easier way. So...basically he wrote himself into a corner, and then tried to dig his way out in the stupidest manner possible. The entire twist also destroys the entire mythology of the series because it turns out the entire history of the Naruto universe was the result of an elaborate and needlessly complicated plan shaped by Black Zetsu for the sole reason of bringing his dead mommy Kaguya back to life. How anyone could possibly respect any part of the series after that development, I have absolutely no clue.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 15, 2014, 11:39:41 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on October 15, 2014, 11:37:46 PM
Well, actually the Sage of Six Paths had been brought up a few times throughout the series,

Somehow I knew you'd bring this up, CX, but read my post again very carefully. I was referring to his sons who had never been brought up before, not the sage himself.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 15, 2014, 11:48:16 PM
Alright, so now Naruto is the child of prophecy? That's brilliant. Yet another thing that was never mentioned or hinted at anywhere in the series before. I suppose that Kishimoto just thinks that the word "prophecy" is enough to fool some 7-year olds who happen to read this manga that this was all somehow planned and is super amazing storytelling. God I hate this manga.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Nel_Annette on October 16, 2014, 12:17:38 AM
Did you get to Kaguya yet? I don't think you really care about spoilers anymore, so I'll just ask bluntly.  :humhumhum:

Prophecies and reincarnation are dickbutt, but everything from the point of Kaguya entering as the main villain (and Black Zetsu's motivations) and just fucking gravy. Crusty, expired gravy.

You know, I've been thinking about it, and I think the last arc I legitimately enjoyed was Hidan and Kakuzu. In fact, I think the initial Akatsuki fights are the arcs I like most. Badass cloaks, each with a special power, they split up and throw down against whoever that arc is focusing on. Naruto being the one to beat him with such a shit move was when I started losing faith in the series personally. It was like a sign of all the shittiness afterward. Konan was the only female member, with that awesome paper power, but only got like one fight that she died in. Nagato's arc would have been cooler if it weren't for bringing everyone who died back at the end of the fucking thing. Deidara was my favorite one, and he wound up randomly deciding to fight Sasuke and fucking died killing himself, with Mr. Perfect getting out with barely a scratch. Fish guy... Kisame? Fish guy struck out on his own in some  "we're training on a turtle" arc and wound up beaten and killing himself... with sharks... ugh.

Maybe I'm just prone to liking groups like Akatsuki and Organization XIII in media, even when the writing's shitty. Badass uniforms and each member having a power that basically makes them a one-man army is always a concept I've liked, I just barely see it executed well.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 16, 2014, 12:29:06 AM
Somehow....I am not the least bit surprised by that spoiler. It's like I've grown accustomed to Kishimoto's bullshit. In order to possibly surprise me anymore in no by significant ways, he's have to pull something so tremendously stupid that it defies any sense of anything whatsoever, like if it was revealed at the end that Sakura was really the big villain all along. He's literally sunk so low that he's have to pull that to possibly even go any lower.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 16, 2014, 12:53:35 AM
If Sakura ended up being the main villain then at least she would serve a purpose in the story, even if it was ridiculous. This series has so many characters who might as well not even be there because they don't do anything at all.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 16, 2014, 01:00:59 AM
In general, too many characters is a bad idea for any series. If you have an over saturation of underdeveloped and underutilized characters, your story falls flat. The only 2 people who I have ever been known to be masterful at balancing out huge casts are Naoki Urasawa and George R. R. Martin, and even their stories can still suffer from too much going on sometimes.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 16, 2014, 01:05:49 AM
Of course, we all know who the REALLY, REALLY, REAL main villain of Naruto is....

Spoiler
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg1.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20091102195229%2Fnaruto%2Fimages%2Fb%2Fb4%2FMasashi_Kishimoto.JPG&hash=9e6998d84505a0e4f1b10c2427e5d8fd4b09a0fd)
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Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Rynnec on October 16, 2014, 01:45:13 AM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 16, 2014, 01:00:59 AM
In general, too many characters is a bad idea for any series. If you have an over saturation of underdeveloped and underutilized characters, your story falls flat. The only 2 people who I have ever been known to be masterful at balancing out huge casts are Naoki Urasawa and George R. R. Martin, and even their stories can still suffer from too much going on sometimes.

I think having a large cast of characterscan work if done right. Which Kubo and Kishimoto don't do well at all. Kishi had the right idea at first by splitting off characters into groups, but fell apart because everything has to be about the main character instead of having each character having their own story.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 16, 2014, 02:18:54 AM
Hence why I said that Uraswa and Martin do it right, not that it can't be done right. It's just really hard to do. With Urasawa, he knows how to transition between character perspectives seemlessly, whereas Martin writes his characters by structuring his stories through their eyes and giving them each POV chapters. In many cases, though, especially with battle shounenshit, you just get a cluster of characters introduced at once,must we hardly learn anything about most of them, so they just seem like a waste if space.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 16, 2014, 04:59:11 PM
Well, looks like the fight isn't over yet after all. Even so, the fact that I can't figure out what's going on in it (and I spent time looking at each panel carefully,) just makes it a boring affair, especially with how obvious the end result will be and how cliche and repetitive the dialogue is. Sasuke's motivation is also just so misguided that it's just stupid, and that whole conversation just beat the same points over and over again. It's at the point where nothing pisses me off, but just makes me sigh whatever. At least there are only three chapters left after this.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Nel_Annette on October 16, 2014, 09:27:04 PM
I have no fucking idea what even happened this week. So... he absorbed all the tailed beasts chakra to power up a giant laser death arrow while prattling on?
And more flashback panels?

Aaaaaauuughh. Just end already. This battle blows, they're just using giant energy beings to fight.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on October 17, 2014, 07:05:38 PM
I just finished catching up with The Seven Deadly Sins.  The first few volumes were pretty "meh", imo, but it really started to pick up around King's appearance.  Overall, it's a really fun battle-shonen series, and I'll definitely be looking forward to reading it every week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 19, 2014, 07:30:27 PM
The newest ad for the Assassination Classroom anime previews the voices for all the students in Class E. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JaNwhO7Dn_g) I like Korosensei's and Karma's, but Nagisa sounds way too feminine for my tastes. I think they should have just kept the voice actor they had for him in the OVA, since she did a much better job at making him sound gender neutral/ambiguous. The other major characters sound fine enough, though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 22, 2014, 12:58:04 AM
So, you know Fuuka? That light-hearted slice-of-life/romantic comedy manga about aspiring young musicians that I've really been enjoying? Well, this just happened in it:

Spoiler

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...... :frown:

FTR, that's the main character, Fuuka, herself. I'm both intrigued and frightened by this development...
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 22, 2014, 01:33:36 AM
...And just when the new Fuuka chapter had depressed me as hell, the new A Silent Voice chapter has uplifted me as hell.

My heart just can't take all these ups and downs, man.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 22, 2014, 01:01:36 PM
Not manga, but related to a manga I keep up with: Sentai is finally releasing Space Brothers on dvd. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-10-22/sentai-filmworks-schedules-1st-space-brothers-blu-ray-dvd/.80212) They licensed the damn thing two years ago, so it's about time. Personally, I don't have much interest in the release, because every episode of the anime I've watched is the exact same thing as the manga except more dragged out, but this is definitely a good thing for it's fans. I personally hope that someone licenses the manga for print release sometime, since I would definitely buy that.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 22, 2014, 01:08:48 PM
In this week of manga, Judar stabbed Aladdin through the chest!...kind of, and Griffith got slapped!...though not by who you'd expect. Read on for the nitty gritty details of these and much much more (Except not cause I got tired writing this after the first few series so I half-assed the whole second half  :P ):

A Silent Voice chapter 57 - I was wondering how things would resolve themselves, how Shoya would be able to face and apologize to these people he wants to consider friends. At the beginning of the series Shoya did not recognize people, much less get to know them, but as he started mending his ways through Shoko, he started to gain a circle of friends around him. Yet, even then, he never tried to get close to them or know them better, and was just content to be around them after all this time, having been friend-less for so many years. But as time went on, he did begin to notice things about these people, and what makes them who they are. But, after seeing the movie, he realized that there is still so, so much he still has yet to know about them as well. And he wants to get to know them better. I think the one character that surprised me here was Kawaii. She's still oblivious, and I felt she shouldn't have been forgiven quite as easily, but it also seems she genuinely felt bad that she didn't get enough people to make paper cranes to celebrate Shoya's release from the hospital. It seems there are still sides to her personality that we hadn't seen, but should get to know. The same for everyone else, and Shoya knows this now. I loved each personal reconciliation Shoya had with each of the characters, as one by one there faces became clear, and Shoya was able to see them for the people they were again. And, I loved, LOVED the ending of the chapter, where Shoya has finally decided to open up to people, embrace the good and bad things about them and whatever they might think of him, with all the "X's" falling off their faces one by one as he hears all their voices. Brilliant, emotional stuff all the way through. This honestly felt like it should have been the second to last chapter, in the way. It makes me wonder what the next four chapters will be about. Knowing this series, though, they are bound to be great ones.

Assassination Classroom chapter 104 - Whoa, Bitch-sensei has skills. She took out all of Class E in a flash. It really shows just how much the students really still have to go in order to be on a professional level. Moreover, I was surprised Itona and Terasaka's group gave up without fighting, and especially that Itona was the one who suggested they should. He's come a long way from the kill-happy, violent and unstable person he used to be. But I like how he is thinking of what he is actually capable of doing, and accepting there are limitation to what he, and the others, can do. As well as how he can place his trust in people that he knows will be able to do what he can't - in this case, Korosensei and Karasuma, who have arrived to rescue the students from God of Death's clutches. I can't wait for the teachers to show their stuff, and take out God of Death once and for all.

Berserk chapter 334 - Ever since he became Femto, I don't believe anyone, be it Guts or another demon like Ganishka, has been able to touch or hurt Griffith in any way. That makes the slap Rickert gives him in this chapter all the more surprising, and enjoyable: finally, tough Griffith might not think much of this, something has been able to surprise and hurt him. The meat of this chapter is, of course, Rickert finally realizing what his feelings are towards Griffith and this situation, and I love his answer. The Griffith he used to follow is dead and the Band of the Hawk he was once a part of is gone. He doesn't follow the Hawk of Light. And so, despite the dangers, he will not side with Griffith. He won't go against him either, he'll maintain neutrality, and just continue to live the life he's living. Honestly, this has got to be the best chapter of this series in five years, and a damn great chapter fro Rickert's character development. I'm not sure where the focus will shift for next time (Rickert's stuff seems pretty wrapped up at this point), but hopefully it continues to keep this series back on track and moving towards even better things.

Black Butler chapter 98 - Ho boy, I'm conflicted on this chapter. On one hand this plot twist is really stupid. On the other hand this really interests me on a character level and shows Ciel becoming a more caring human being, though admittedly his life or death choice to the Green Witch is in line with what he would do, but this time I feel it's from a place of genuinely wanting to help a person, rather than using them as means to an end, as he's always done up until now. I like this change in direction with the character, and the possibility of the Green Witch joining Ciel's group, so overall, this is a rare chapter of BB where I'm more positive towards it than I am ambivalent or negative. Let's see where they take this.

Bleach chapter 601 - Yeah, so, all those new villains introduced two chapters ago? All one-shotted in this chapter. Yep. Except for that one guy at the end, but c'mon, he's probably going to get beat down pretty easily too after the standard overpowers good guy another good guy bails him out shit. A worthless and pointless chapter overall.

Boku no Hero Academia chapters 1-3 - Hmm, a manga about traditional superheroes, running in Jump no less? Unusual. This series doesn't do anything I haven't seen before with these first three chapters, but it does make me interested in the premise, the world, and the main character. Depending on how things are executed, this could end up being a very good battle-shonen series and refreshing from the norm of spirt-hunters and traveling adventurers. Considering this series has become another overnight success for Jump alongside Hinomaru Zumo, this could very well become the next big thing. Whether it has the potential to rival the popularity reached by something like Naruto or even achieve a Titan level of success seems unlikely to me as of now, but the series is still young. I'll be interested in seeing how it grows and whether or not it meets it's potential.

Days of the Dam chapter 1 - I like the premise of the people who do hard work everyday to build and create things that help out other people and never get recognized for their achievements are true heroes. This series looks to be a good look at hard-working honest folks like that as they spend ten years building an important dam. It's a refreshing kind of series and looks to be an enjoyable read. The art is kinda crappy, though, but that shouldn't hurt this kind of series overall.

Fuuka chapter 35 - ...I...I just can't talk about this chapter. The newest one's ending is just too stuck in my mind right now. I mean, damn, we went from a chapter like this one, where the future looked bright and things just seemed like they would be going up for everyone...and then this week's chapter happened. I can see why so many people are pissed off about this. I'm not. I'm just kind of worried, as that kind of twist that could either lead to great things or ruin the series, and I really don't want the latter to happen because it's been so enjoyable so far. But I'll save more thoughts on that for the recap for this week. As for this chapter, it was just a quaint, cute one, and a very lovely little read that made me smile. That's why I like this series. I hope that it can stay that way...or at the very least, it takes a page from Cross Game in how to take things from here.

Hinomaru Zumo chapter 4 - This chapter did a lot less for me than the first three, mainly because it was a lot of wordy exposition and the predictable turn of Yuuma joining the Sumo club. It was standard stuff done alright, but a bit of a chore to read, so I was pretty meh about it. Hopefully the next chapter is a bit more interesting.

Joshi Kausei chapter 22 - It's really hard to talk about this series because there's no plot or character development: it's straightforward slice-of-life shenanigans. So I can't really say more about this other than I enjoyed their little bowling escapade, and thought this was a fun chapter. Though I will say that I liked the zigzag trategy and how that totally backfired when they went to an actually bowling lane.

Magi chapter 243 - This chapter continued the streak of the last few of me finding them kind of tedious to read, but I enjoyed seeing Jadar and Hakuryu's emotional weaknesses and doubts, and there was good stuff here on a character level. I'm interested in seeing why both of them have this urge to defy what their hearts tell them, and what consequences that will have down the line.

Magi: Adventure of Sinbad chapter 38 - Drakon transformed into his dragon form a lot quicker than I thought he would. I was expecting that was something that was going to gradually happen over the course of the series. This is certainly not the end of his character arc, since Barbarossa is still at large and I'm sure he and Serendine will be targeted once again at some point. On a side note: BABY JUDAR! Adorable. So he was raised by Falan, then? Hmm, no wonder he's so messed up.

Naruto chapter 696 - The fight isn't over yet, but I can barely tell what's going on, so whatever. Also, more flashbacks and beating the same points over and over again. Lame. Well, at least there are only three weeks left.

One Piece chapter 764 - Hmm, so Corazon is actually a spy for the World Government trying to keep Doflamingo in check? Didn't see that coming. I like how passionate he was in trying to help cure Law's illness. I can see why Law slowly grew attached to him over time, and changed his opinion on him. I bet that Vergo joining G-5 allowed him to out Corazon's secret and spill it to Doflamingo. And considering that call at the end of the chapter, I have a feeling there'll be hell to pay soon enough for that.

Peephole chapter 43 - Oh shit, a whole cult worshiping Miyachi? This series just took a weird turn. I really find it interesting how I can always feel bad for Kurosu for getting into these fucked up situations when he's really kind of a horrible person himself, but this series just always makes me go "oh fuck" whenever stuff like this happens. Now, how will Kurosu get out of this mess?

The Seven Deadly Sins chapter 98 - This was one of those kinds of chapters that really only exist to get us to the ending. In this case, set-up for Meliodas' plan to defeat Hendricksen. It's interesting that Elizabeth's power can only heal wounds but it can't restore their stamina and strength, so while they might be saved from being at near death they still don't have the energy to really manage a long-term fight. It's good to see limitations on these kind of things. In any case, next chapter should be the final part of this battle, and hopefully it will be a cool conclusion.

Shokugeki no Soma chapter 90 - Akira and Kurokiba are so hardcore, I love them. I have to wonder if Kurokiba might actually turn this match around on Akira and create a dish even better than his. Usually the character that goes first is the one that loses, after all. But, again, it seems like things are building towards a rematch between him and Soma, so I doubt it. Still, I'll be interested in seeing what kind of dish he's going to create.

Shonan Seven chapter 1.5 - I believe the first chapter of this series made a good first impression, but this one...it utterly bored me. The concept is still nice, but the character, art, and dialogue are making it an uninteresting and tedious read. The translations is also really sloppy and bad too. I'll still try and stick with it until the end of it's first arc, whatever that'll be, but I have a feeling Fujisawa has just produced another dud yet again.

Silver Spoon chapter 106 - There might not have been much story development in this chapter, but boy was this one fucking funny as hell. Reading this was one of the highlights of last week for me, though, as this is Silver Spoon, that's to be expected.

Space Brothers chapter 237 - Mutta sees the sky Hibito once saw. And next chapter, he should finally see the space that Hibtio saw as well. Now that will be an event of a chapter for this series, and I can't wait to see it.

Toriko chapter 297 - Dang, these monkeys have one hell of a hierarchy. I honestly don't see Toriko's group beating even an instructor unless they get some powerup or something. But it looks like they've now discovered a lost civilization...of Nitro? Oh yeah, now this is a cool ass development! I've been wanting to learn more about the Nitro and their community for a long time, so hopefully this finally sheds some answers on that front, as well as explain the motives and origins of the Blue Nitro.

Rankings:

1. A Silent Voice - 9.5/10
2. Berserk - 9/10
3. Silver Spoon - 9/10
4. Shokugeki no Soma - 9/10
5. Fuuka - 8/10
6. Assassination Classroom - 8/10
7. Boku no Hero Academia - 8/10
8. One Piece - 8/10
9. Joshi Kausei - 8/10
10. Magi: Adventure of Sinbad - 8/10
11. Magi - 8/10
12. Space Brothers - 8/10
13. Peephole - 8/10
14. Days of the Dam - 8/10
15. Toriko - 8/10
16. The Seven Deadly Sins - 8/10
17. Black Butler - 8/10
18. Hinomaru Zumo - 7/10
19. Shonan Seven - 6/10
20. Naruto - 1/10
21. Bleach - 1/10

Overall, a really solid week of good chapters. Not to mention alongside ASV being amazing as always, Berserk put out it's best chapter in years and Silver Spoon came out with a new chapter in two months, so I couldn't not be happy with the week as a whole. Hopefully next week will be just as strong.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 25, 2014, 03:30:15 PM
Welp, I caught up to the available scans of World Trigger. I find it enjoyable. I appreciate that it's different from most battle-shonen currently running in that it's not a fantasy adventure series or another goddamn ghost/monster-fighting series (have I mentioned how much I hate those nowadays?). Well, I suppose the Neighbors are "monsters," but a lot of what the series has been focused on so far was more interesting strategy/internal politics within the Border organization, which I found pretty interesting. The art is also very good and the way I like: clean, clear, and effective, and the action scenes look pretty cool at times. I appreciate the dialogue as well for not following the same "tone" most dialogue in shonen series tends to be (lots of yelling and what have you), and the mangaka does some interesting things with it and his character interactions to give them some good depth in some cases. I think the writing and art are pretty good overall, a step up from the norm these days for battle-shonen's, at the very least.

As far as the characters go, there are many I find interesting in terms of where they might develop as characters, but am not interested in them as they are quite enough yet, with the exception of Jin, who is basically the Ban of this manga in terms of being the most nuanced AND awesome character, and very much a scene-stealer. The parts of the series I've enjoyed most so far have directly involved him. I do appreciate the leads, Yuma and Osamu, for who they are, but their personalities aren't really on the level of, say, Korosensei or Soma to get me invested in them before the nuances to their characters started to show up, and on that front, while I can see them having interesting character arcs as the manga goes on, what they've gone through so far is too little and typical for me to truly "care" about them and their problems, unlike, say, Fuuka from her titular manga. As far as other characters go, the series suffers from my long held grievance of having to many characters and expecting the audience to care about all of them even if their development and focus is all over the place. I can't really remember the names of much of the supporting cast, beyond a select few like Kitora, Miwa, etc., who I do like, but are just not "there" in terms of being characters I feel invested in, yet. This can make some chapters that do not focus or feature on Yuma, Osamu, and Jin feel a bit dull since I don't remember who these people are and thus don't care about the situation they are in. A series that I feel handles a large cast much better is Assassination Classroom, because that series introduced it's characters gradually and one at a time, and made it clear which characters were the most important, and focuses on them specifically, and as such, there are many characters in that series I legitimately care about. WT is still a young series, and could do some interesting things with it's characters, since a good foundation is there, but as of now it has yet to find a balance that would help it get to that level.

Overall, I do think it's a good series, and I'd enjoy keeping up with it once new scans start popping up again, or once I finally get a subscription to Shonen Jump Alpha, whichever comes first. Is it the best 10-gen Jump series? Not for me, personally, as I am far more invested in Assassination Classroom and Shokegeki no Soma, both of which won me to them much earlier into their runs than WT has yet to do for me so far. The WMR guys really love this series, and I can see why, since it's a very good and unique series, and definitely has had a stronger year than most of the other battle-shonen currently running. I just don't feel as strongly towards it right now for the reasons I've mentioned, and because there is such a diverse and large amount of series I already keep up with, and WT doesn't give me anything that I don't get from some of those at this point in time. I do think there's a lot of potential here, though, and I'd love to see the series reach it. Whether it will or not is another question, but at the very least, I think it will remain a good series for the foreseeable future, and a good title for those sick of the typical kind of battle-shonen out these days and want something different and well-written to read. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 25, 2014, 04:08:05 PM
I'd keep up with it, but the unofficial scans stop at chapter 55, and I can't afford to really buy a subscription from Viz (well, I could, but there are other things that I find to be more worth my money, right now), so I'll have to take a hiatus from the series for a while.

Based on my impressions, though, it's decent, but I still don't buy into all of the hype around it. Focusing on the inter politics if Border is probably it's biggest strength, but even so, I don't find the characters to be anything truly memorable, though certainly above average by Jump's regular standards.

Anyways, as far as currently running manga goes, I'm not really following anything new, but here are some of my thoughts on what I've read from this week:

Haikyuu!!- It's not that there's anything wrong with the game, but this reminds me of why I didn't read KnB on a weekly basis, and instead waited for the final match to finish. To be quite frank, I don't think that sports manga are well-suited to being read in a weekly format. They are made to build up intensity during matches, and you just don't get that from reading such short chapters between relatively long intervals. As disappointing as the final match in KnB was, I can only imagine how much worse it would've been in a weekly for at, and I feel like having to do the same when I read Slam Dunk would've really killed the momentum of a lot of the great matches in that series. That said, the game's already pretty far in, so I might as well stick with it the rest of the way through, at this point, but I've definitely learned my lesson, and I'm going to wait it out by the time that the next game starts.

One Piece- You know, for what it's worth, this is one of the few flash-backs that I've actually been enjoying. Unlike the flashbacks with Rebecca and Mr. Soldier, I find Law to be a much more compelling character, and his relationship with Doflamingo's brother is also more interesting given how they each have intel on each other that they could have used to screw each other over, but instead it turned into them forming a mutual trust between one another. I also like how Corazon was smart enough to see that his brother had found him out or was at least close to it, and instead was much smarter than falling into his trap and risked getting the Devil Fruit for himself by steeling it, which in this case still probably won't work out for him given how this chapter ended, but at least he'll somehow be able to save Law with it at the cost of his own life. The bottom line, though, is that you care more about a character, even in a flash-back, when they aren't complete idiots, and make genuinely good efforts to keep themselves and those around them alive.

This isn't a Nico Robin or Three Brothers quality flashback, but it still has a touch of classic One Piece to it, which is much more than I can say for most of the extraneous character flashbacks that we've been getting for other characters ever since the Fishman Island arc.

Magi- I'm really glad that they managed to conquer this dungeon in just 2-chapters, because I really didn't want to spend more time, here. To be brutally honest, the dungeons were always the least interesting part of this series to me. I've always found the politics and social disorder to be its biggest story-telling strengths. Now let's just see Hakuryu actually try to get one of his objectives done and maybe kill a character or two off (which, remember, the author pretty much promised that people would be dying off pretty soon). I just hope that when people do start dying off  it's not just a cop out and only really minor characters get the axe. At least give us one death that would dramatically raise the stakes of the conflict at hand. As things stand, I feel that this alliance against Al Thamen thing should be much bigger than it is right now, but with the slow pacing of this series, it feels like it'll take forever before anyone actually even makes a move. I'm not saying that it's good to rush into things, but in this case I feel like we've really waited more than long enough to see shit go down. Stop stalling, Ohtaka.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 25, 2014, 09:24:43 PM
Well, while we're on the subject, I might as well do this on time for a change...

A Silent Voice chapter 58 - The group worked so hard on the movie...only for it to be bashed as "pretentious," the judges not understanding the genuine nature and motives behind the project, and every single aspect about their movie was mercilessly picked apart. It was painful to read. They put into a lot of effort into the movie, thought what they made was great, but even so other people hated it. Yet, as Shoya tries to say, that shouldn't let them get them down. They don't need to care about what those assholes said about it. It was a rushed project, there were some rough edges, but they accomplished something together, and they had fun doing it, and it meant a lot to the person they were making it for. They'll just do it even better next time, and show people what they can really do. It was a great moment. And the icing on the cake was the whole group going to have dinner together, laughing and joking around as friends. It's all so emotionally rewarding considering the trials these characters have gone through, and how they've now found good friends they can be comfortable being themselves with. Seeing Shoko laugh and smile, for the first time in a long, long while, almost brought a tear to my eye, just how it does Yuzuru's. Another beautiful, wonderful chapter.

Assassination Classroom chapter 105 - The "God of Death's" strategy to defeat Korosensei actually worked! Wow, this is the first time Korosensei has really been this helpless, and shows that even he isn't invincible and infallible. The best part of the chapter, though, was Karasuma's decision. In the earlier chapters he might have sacrificed the lives of the students to ensure Korosensei's death, but here he is using his own discretion, and doing what is right, and now shows his stuff against "God of Death," preparing to risk his life against the sake of the mission, but for the sake of the innocent lives of the students. And I love his line to Erina: "Being Pro Isn't Something So Carefree." Erina has forsaken any shred of honor, riding on the coattails of "God of Death's" skills, and using dirty tricks to achieve her ends,  and she thinks that is the mark of a good assassin. But Karasuma is telling her that she can't just take the easy way here, and that won't get her anything. If she wants the respect she desires, she should be using her own skills and strategies, and not abandon the responsibility she had towards the students to work with them together to defeat Korosensei. It shows the difference in the maturity of the two characters, and how for all her posturing, Erina is still lacking in valuable experience and self-awareness, and has a ways to grow as a person as well as an assassin just as much as her former students. I'm excited to see if she'll realize this, and the implications for her characters from here on out. Moreover, though, I'm excited to see Karasuma take on the "God of Death," and how he'll be able to outpower and outwit an opponent that has defeated countless skilled assassins as well as Korosensei before.

Bleach chapter 602 - So what's-his-name is defeated and...why the hell did we just waste three chapters on this shit? I mean, holy shit, this was like complete filler. Nothing of consequence happened in this fight. These grunts came out of nowhere, and they were defeated just as easily. I guess we didn't see cloak guy defeated so that might do something, but, like, there was no reason for any of this. I just think Kubo realized he didn't have a few villains named after letters of the alphabet yet so he made some up and just stuck them in there to get them out there. It was pointless. Completely pointless. That's the problem with Bleach. It doesn't need these many villains. It doesn't need these many fights. They add nothing to the story. It all amounts to basically filler. The Arrancar arc would have been a third the length if you narrowed it down to it's essential plot elements. This arc would be a fourth of the length, if not less. All Bleach amounts to is fighting random weird villains in random weird battles again and again and again. There is no logic or story to anything that happens. There is no development to any characters. It's just fighting. And that's boring. And stupid. Bleach in a nutshell. Sigh. Now these Squad Zero bastards are going to fight Ywach and...oh why should I give a fuck? I know they are going to lose. I know Ichigo is going to come and fight him instead. I just...sigh. Let's just move on from this crappy long-running Jump series that wasted all it's potential to a new upstart with promise.

Boku no Hero Academia chapter 4 - Though this was a sort of chapter that you would expect for this situation, the execution here made it genuinely moving, and happy to see that Midoriya has gotten accepted to Yuuei after all. This manga is playing all the right cards, so far, and it makes me intrigued at what it might be able to do with this premise. Though superheroes at school is a fairly well-worn concept, it's been rarely done in manga, and if this series can be done just right, it can make itself into a really engaging battle manga. Considering this series is an overnight success, if the rankings are any indication, I'm definitely excited to find out if that will be the case.

Fairy Tail Zero chapter 4 - FTZ continues to be surprisingly enjoyable, especially because Mavis is a incredibly likable protagonist. It was awesome to see her not only outwit the members of the dark guild but also bluff them into submission with her illusion magic. The ending of this chapter provides a neat hook in the revelation of what looks to be Zeref seen walking past Mavis and co. What role could he have in this story? I'm actually interested in finding out.

Fuuka chapter 36 - I mean, fuck, what can I even say about this chapter? It was so well-crafted beginning to end, providing an ending that feels like a big, painful punch in the gut. I don't know if Fuuka is going to actually die or not, but I have a feeling the author won't be pulling his punches on this development. And as such, I have to say, this is one of those rare occasions where I genuinely feel sad, almost mortified, by a manga character's death. To put it in perspective, the most cited "moving" death in a modern shonen manga is Ace's from One Piece, because it was the first time a character died outside of a flashback in that series and changed the status quo (except only superficially but whatever). The thing about that is, while it was a well-done scene, the fact was I never actually cared about Ace as a character so much as his relationship with other characters, so while I felt bad for Luffy and Whitebeard when he died, I didn't care about him. That is not the case here with Fuuka, as I genuinely was invested in and cared about the character, so her death hits me hard, so much so I felt almost depressed after reading the chapter and thinking about it now. Now, again, Fuuka might not die, the mangaka might just make be in a coma or something like that, but if this is actually happening then this is going down as one of the very few anime/manga character death scenes that genuinely had an emotional impact on me, a rare feat indeed.

My main concern about this, if Fuuka is actually dead, is where the author will take this series from this point. My hope is that the situation will be handled as smartly and with as much depth and class as in Cross Game, and be a moment that affects the characters and drives the story just as much as it did in that series. Considering the quality of the writing so far, I have reasonable hopes that this will happen, but from what I've heard about the mangaka's previous works, I do have some concerns the series might misstep as well. The only other manga I've been keeping up with that has made me this speculative about it has been A Silent Voice, and with it ending in three weeks, this might turn out to be the series I'll be most excited to read every week from now on. And as of right now, I haven't been this anxious to read the next chapter of a series in a good time. This is a development that could either make or break Fuuka, and I'm praying for the former.

Girl May Kill chapters 17-18 - Ho man, these chapters provided an excellent development in Gohongi's character in how he's delving himself deeper into the underworld in order to help Mei, for misguided reasons that he wants to help and protect her, and otherwise just going with the flow of things, when he's the one who's truly in danger in this situation, and that may cost him his life. Worse, he's confronted with the guilt of what he's let happen, namely Tsukasa's death, and what's happened to Ritsu as a result. And in a moment of emotional confusion and weakness, he's taken advantage of Ritsu's emotional instability and has sex with her, an action that will likely increase her dependency on him, further his guilt over letting his friend be killed, and has likely set the similarly unstable Mei, who holds misguided feelings for him and discovers them in the act to their unawareness, against him. This is some heavy, fucked up shit and it's not going to end pretty I can already tell, my god. I wish it was updated more often, because it just keeps getting better and better.

Hinomaru Zumo chapter 5 - The first three chapters genuinely piqued my interest in this series, and that interest remains, but the typicalness of the shonen sports formula tropes it follows in this chapter made for a rather boring read. I also am just not a fan of reporter characters, as they generally tend to be superfluous commentators in sports series, and the ones introduced here don't seem particularly interesting. That said, when we get into the actual tournament, the elements this series excels in should come to play and I should start enjoying it again, but this one was a miss for repeating things I've seen before, and am tired of, unfortunately.

Joshi Kausei chapter 23 - Legs. Just...legs. She spreads her legs. Other characters try to make her close them for...obvious reasons. She doesn't. Wackiness. Misunderstandings. The usual. I dunno. Wasn't funny. Not much to say. Let's move on.

Magi chapter 244 - On one level I do appreciate the reasoning behind why Judar and Hakuryu are behaving the way they are when they know deep down it's not the right thing to do, and that's their anger and hatred against the world aka they've cured their fates. And as such, they've fallen into depravity. I get this and it might be interesting to see how Ohtaka handles these characters and their relationships with their former allies when they come into conflict with them. But the way Hakuryu falls into depravity here...while there is some very nice imagery to convey his newfound madness, a lot of the dialogue in this chapter was cringe-worthy and serves to portray him in an almost two-dimmensional light. Now, we've seen that falling into depravity can radically change people's personalities and make them turn on people they used to care about before, but...c'mon: "You are nothing more than garbage just like you Master Alibaba, because you follow his hypocrisy blindly. HAHAHA..."? That's a fucking stupid line. Like, I can get behind insane characters. I can get behind a chapter where a character becomes insane. Crona was my favorite character in Soul Eater and that chapter where it finally snapped and went batshit crazy and killed Medusa in Soul Eater is legitimately one of my favorite manga chapters of all time. But that was actually handled very carefully, playing upon multiple chapters of buildup, and a sense of growing tension that made the moment powerful and as well-done as it was. But the execution here felt much more sloppy and sudden, and the 180 Hakuryu makes here just doesn't work for me.

There are definitely things here that I did like, and I have no complaint's about Judar's side of things, but I'm wary about the direction Hakuryu as a character seems to be going. Now, as far as him killing a character goes, depends on how that'll be handled. Hakuryu just killing off a character because he's evil now would be stupid. If it's something like how Midora killed Ichiryu in the aftermath of their fight in Toriko, where it was about two characters who have gone different paths but deep down still care about and love each other, and thus while they fight brutally with the intent to kill each other it's really a very tragic affair and both feel sorrowful about it's climax, then, you know, that would be good. If Hakuryu just kills off a major character, one that he has a history with, because he thinks they are all scum now like it suggests he does in this chapter, then that wouldn't be well-done at all no matter how much "the stakes are raised." I'm taking a wait and see approach on this. Ohtaka has shown she can make an effective three-dimensional villain in Mogamett, and to an extent Cassim, but the way things play out here, I'm a little worried Hakuryu might devolve into being a Sasuke-like character in execution, and that would be a real shame.

Magic Kaito chapter 33 - Yeah...I'm totally calling that Kaito's dad is still alive, somehow, and now masquerades as Kaito Corbeau. Either that or it's his mother...but I'm betting it's his dad. This is a pretty major development. It's a bummer that it won't be explored for like two years when Aoyama finally resumes drawing this series again, but whatever. As it was the chapter was pretty awesome in the way Kaito exposed Corbeau's tricks and their confrontation with the Organization. Really fun, cool stuff. But man, that ending. Way to tease your readers like that, Aoyama.  :sweat:

Naruto chapter 697 - You know, I can get behind the concept of this chapter. Having exhausted all of their chakra, Naruto and Sasuke rely on their old skills, like the Uzumaki Barrage and the Chidori, and then finally, they run out of energy to even do those, and devolve into a fist fight. And you know what? This chapter ends up being the most interesting and effective action in the series in years because of that. No bullshit eye powers or giant energy monsters, but a good old-fashioned brawl between two people at their most desperate point, each one almost at the point of exhaustion, desperate for the other to run out of steam and fall. It was all really effective storytelling, and if I was invested in this series, I think I would have really enjoyed it. Obviously, though, I'm not, so I can't say I liked it, but I'll give it credit for doing what it does well, which is something Naruto hasn't been able to do in a long ass time. I fully expect some bullshit in the next chapter so that the fight can resolve easily and Sasuke won't have to die and whatever, but this week I'll throw it a bone.

One Piece chapter 765 - I like Corazon's savvy and how he's willing to risk making enemies of both Doflamingo and the Marines in order to cure Law's illness. Obviously he's in some serious trouble now, but I expect that this won't be what does him in, so it'll be interesting to see how he gets out of this jam, get the fruit to Law, and how he meets his end.

One-Punch Man chapters 57-58 - I totally forgot about Genos' backstory and motives in this story, so I appreciated the reminder. I feel that this new arc will result in some good development for his character. As far as King goes, I'm interested in seeing if he lives up to his promise and does become stronger. At the very least, stop being cowardly, and embrace qualities that make for a true hero. And why do I get the feeling Metal Knight is somehow involved not only with the cyborg Genos just fought but also the one that killed his parents? Hmm....

Orange chapter 15 - I like that something actually happened, in that they got Kakeru to finally tell them the truth about his mother, and get him to understand that they are there for him and ready to help him and talk about his problems. There was also lots of boring typical shojo stuff here and there that knocks the chapters down for me, but I am glad in this direction the series is taking, and hopefully it becomes more interesting to read again in future chapters.

Peephole chapter 44 - You know what my reaction was reading this chapter? OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT OH SHIT...you get the picture. I mean, jesus, this is some fucked up shit and I continue to feel super bad for Kurosu for being in this situation. The ending of the chapter made my draw drop. Christ. Tt should be rewarding to see Miyachi go up against and take this guy out, at the very least.

The Seven Deadly Sins chapter 99 - Hendricksen is defeated, and I got to tell ya, that page where Meliodas delivers the final blow is really awesome. The build-up to it was as I expected, but enjoyable and well-executed nonetheless. I'm interested in the denouement of this arc, whether they dive right into a series situation with the demon clan being revived after all, or if that crises will be avoided for now.

Shokugeki no Soma chapter 91 - I was dying at the comparison of Hayama's dish to a monster card game like Yu-Gi-Oh and the accompanying pages of imagery. Gloriously hilarious. But though Hayama has made one hell of an impact, Kurokiba hasn't given up just yet. What card does he have his sleeve? Usually the guy who goes second is the one who wins. Will Kurokiba pull an upset? I have to wonder, and even if not, he's sure to have made one hell of a dish, and I can't wait to see how it turned out.

Shonan Seven chapter 2 - How does Fujisawa manage to take an interesting concept and make it boring as all hell? I dunno, but I would have thought a series where delinquents fight each other for the title of being one of the biggest badass' in the town would be cool, but it's not because the characters and art are really boring and it's just hard to get through. I mean, there's potential here, but right now I'm just finding it as tedious to read as any of his other modern works.

Toriko chapter 298 - Now this was a really cool chapter. I loved learning more about Nitro society and about this secret haven for those enslaved by the Blue Nitro, be them Red Nitro, humans, and monkeys. And I'm really interested in seeing how this information will be expanded upon as the arc goes on, and as they aim for Pair. This is shaping up to be a promising adventure arc for the series, and I'm hoping it delivers.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 25, 2014, 09:24:53 PM
Rankings:

1. A Silent Voice - 10/10
2. Fuuka - 9.5/10
3. Girl May Kill - 9.5/10
4. Assassination Classroom - 9.5/10
5. Shokugeki no Soma - 9/10
6. Boku no Hero Academia - 9/10
7. Peephole - 9/10
8. Magic Kaito - 9/10
9. One-Punch Man - 9/10
10. Toriko - 8/10
11. One Piece - 8/10
12. The Seven Deadly Sins - 8/10
13. Magi - 7.5/10
14. Fairy Tail Zero - 7/10
15. Orange - 6/10
16. Hinomaru Zumo - 6/10
17. Naruto - 5/10
18. Joshi Kausei - 5/10
19. Shonan Seven - 5/10
20. Bleach - 1/10

Some really damn great chapters this week. There were some chapters I'm wasn't so high on, as well, but overall I'd say the good far outweighed the meh and the bad. I'm really anxious about the next Fuuka chapter and where that series is going, and Silent Voice continues to have an immensely satisfying denouement. And of course, there are plenty of other series like AC and Soma where I'm excited for their next chapters as well. The spectrum of good this week reminded me why I enjoy keeping up with manga and reading these series, and they really helped me get through a pretty shitty week. The meh stuff...I wish could have been avoided, but beyond Bleach, I wouldn't call any of them that bad beyond a few missteps or being boring at parts, so that doesn't bring things down for me too much. So, I felt really good about this week, overall, and have some very good expectations for several series next week as well. And hopefully, those expectations will be met.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Rynnec on October 25, 2014, 10:41:29 PM
QuoteBleach chapter 602 - So what's-his-name is defeated and...why the hell did we just waste three chapters on this shit? I mean, holy shit, this was like complete filler. Nothing of consequence happened in this fight. These grunts came out of nowhere, and they were defeated just as easily. I guess we didn't see cloak guy defeated so that might do something, but, like, there was no reason for any of this. I just think Kubo realized he didn't have a few villains named after letters of the alphabet yet so he made some up and just stuck them in there to get them out there. It was pointless. Completely pointless. That's the problem with Bleach. It doesn't need these many villains. It doesn't need these many fights. They add nothing to the story. It all amounts to basically filler. The Arrancar arc would have been a third the length if you narrowed it down to it's essential plot elements. This arc would be a fourth of the length, if not less. All Bleach amounts to is fighting random weird villains in random weird battles again and again and again. There is no logic or story to anything that happens. There is no development to any characters. It's just fighting. And that's boring. And stupid. Bleach in a nutshell. Sigh. Now these Squad Zero bastards are going to fight Ywach and...oh why should I give a fuck? I know they are going to lose. I know Ichigo is going to come and fight him instead. I just...sigh. Let's just move on from this crappy long-running Jump series that wasted all it's potential to a new upstart with promise.

At least when the Captains and Vizards fought and lost against Aizen, the readers were already invested in them, we barely know these Squad Zero losers other than they look stupid and are one of the most disappointing things in this manga yet (and THAT is saying something).

QuoteNaruto chapter 697 - You know, I can get behind the concept of this chapter. Having exhausted all of their chakra, Naruto and Sasuke rely on their old skills, like the Uzumaki Barrage and the Chidori, and then finally, they run out of energy to even do those, and devolve into a fist fight. And you know what? This chapter ends up being the most interesting and effective action in the series in years because of that. No bullshit eye powers or giant energy monsters, but a good old-fashioned brawl between two people at their most desperate point, each one almost at the point of exhaustion, desperate for the other to run out of steam and fall. It was all really effective storytelling, and if I was invested in this series, I think I would have really enjoyed it. Obviously, though, I'm not, so I can't say I liked it, but I'll give it credit for doing what it does well, which is something Naruto hasn't been able to do in a long ass time. I fully expect some bullshit in the next chapter so that the fight can resolve easily and Sasuke won't have to die and whatever, but this week I'll throw it a bone.

Sounds good, but S-CRY-Ed did it better. :>
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Nel_Annette on October 26, 2014, 12:29:53 AM
S-cry-ed is always the first series I think of whenever battles come down to the whole "we're both so worn down that we can only pathetically punch and kick each other" thing. And yeah, I actually kind of liked Naruto this week. That's how I'd write their final battle's last moments. I just don't like how we got there. They hit this point incredibly quick, and the only reason we got here so fast is because they blew their loads with giant energy monsters. Had Kaguya not even happened, we could have gotten a few cool fight scenes of swingin' around trees and throwing knives at each other or some shit.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 27, 2014, 08:44:24 PM
Viz's Shonen Jump is adding Shokugeki no Soma to it's lineup, eh? (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/10/27-1/english-weekly-shonen-jump-to-run-food-wars-manga) That's pretty awesome. I'm not surprised, with Naruto ending in two weeks, and considering the volumes have been selling very well for them. It's definitely a good thing the series will be getting even more exposure now. A subscription to Jump is looking even more enticing now that there's another series I like to support through it.

As for Hi-fi Cluster being the chosen Jump Start series they've picked....meh. Like the WMR guys, I would have rather had Sporting Salt, but I can understand why Viz chose HFC over the others considering it's the one that seems the most "mainstream." Who knows, it might get better later on. I'll keep an ear out for it.

I'm also looking forward to the prequel chapters to Princess Jellyfish (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/10/26-1/princess-jellyfish-manga-receiving-two-additional-prequel-chapters). It'll be interesting to see the pasts of the Amars, especially since, outside of Tsukimi's, they've been rarely touched upon. Also, more PJ is always a good thing, anyways.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 28, 2014, 12:02:04 PM
Could a Soma anime be on the way? (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-10-28/food-wars-shokugeki-no-soma-tv-anime-briefly-listed-by-bookstore/.80152) I wouldn't be surprised if it is, but if so, I'd expect an official announcement before the end of the year.

If it does, then the only real popular currently running Jump manga without a tv anime left will be Saiki. I think it's one of the funniest pure gag manga currently running right now, so I hope that gets one sometime too.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 28, 2014, 09:19:05 PM
Eeyup, a Shokugeki no Soma anime is indeed coming out next year! (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-10-28/shueisha-confirms-food-wars-shokugeki-no-soma-tv-anime-for-2015/.80442) Sweet! Looks like I have another anime to look forward to now. I really do hope a good studio and team will be doing it, though, and it doesn't get screwed over like how Nisekoi did with Shaft's "style," World Trigger has with Toei's cheapness, and Assassination Classroom might be because of it's infamous director. Jump anime adaptions need to start catching a break, c'mon.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 28, 2014, 11:27:51 PM
(reads The Seven Deadly Sins)

Huh, so Hawk is alive after all....

(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1270.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fjj620%2FAYET_PB%2FFrankySuperPose_400width.jpg&hash=4e1544cddcf8835043fa20d384a3c1d8be8061ac)

(reads Fuuka)

Huh, so Fuuka is dead after all....

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Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 29, 2014, 08:42:54 AM
Naruto will reach 700 chapters after all. The final two chapters will be published simultaneously next week. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-10-29/naruto-manga-finale-is-2-chapters-long-including-a-full-color-chapter/.80447)

It's almost surreal that this is actually happening. I've been following this damn thing for over nine years, as long as I've been an anime fan. I thought this shit would never end, but...now it finally will. I won't say the series had no good, especially since I found myself liking the newest chapter, but there was definitely way, way, WAY more bad in it overall. It's not something I'm ever going to miss, but it is going to be a bit weird that something that I've been following for essentially half of my life so far will be gone.

Now, as for A Silent Voice, which will be ending in two weeks, that I will miss.  :'(
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 29, 2014, 12:11:08 PM
I do agree about it being surreal. Granted that I wasn't following it over the last year and on,y now have been playing catch up, but it's something that iwas first exposed to back in 2005, and it had been something that I'd read weekly for nearly a decade. Even as much as I now hate the series, it's definitely going to feel weird that it's gone, but mostly weird in a good way where I know that I'll never have to torture myself with shitty story-telling on a regular basis.

For the record, I think that up through the Chuunin Exam arc, you could probably call this a decent shonen for what it was, but to me the series just starts going downhill after that, and then takes not one, but a series of nosedives after the time skip, sinking lower and lower than ever before.

Really, I've rarely seen long time skips done well in manga, myself. I'm starting to think that Dragon Ball and JoJo's are the only 2 series which I've read that can pull it off well.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 29, 2014, 12:41:30 PM
Well, 20th Century Boys and Billy Bat have great timeskips. But if we are just talking about shonen series, then yeah, outside of DB and JJBA, I can't think of any others that have done it effectively.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 29, 2014, 12:46:45 PM
True, I forgot about 20CB, but even that is still just one of the few exceptions.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Nel_Annette on October 29, 2014, 01:17:56 PM
Naruto isn't completely done. There's still the final timeskip movie coming out where he realizes he wants to bone Hinata. I think that's the plot anyway.

YOU AREN'T DONE UNTIL YOU'VE WATCHED IT. ALL OF IT.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 29, 2014, 01:30:57 PM
:gonk:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 29, 2014, 05:35:36 PM
9 years...

I remember when it came out. People went wild for it. How could you not? Ninjas, crazy powers, intriguing set up...

Then it kept going.

I would be surprised if any of the people I remember raving about it when it came out either still read it or watch it. The series slid into irrelevance long ago and never crawled out of that pit. I'd personally be surprised if anyone ever trusts Kishimoto ever again with all the blunders and bad storytelling devices he used here.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 29, 2014, 05:50:48 PM
Well, I feel to call it "irrelevant" is a stretch. It's still one of the most popular and highest-selling anime/manga franchises of all time and one of the most widely recognizable among anime/manga titles worldwide. It has many detractors, but it also has far more fans, even after all the bullshit in recent years. And the series was so big commercially, that I'm positive it will still be remembered in the future, especially if they keep it always conscious in the public mind like how Jump and Toei have done with Dragon Ball for two decades straight. I don't think it will be remembered as a great series, god forbid a classic, but I doubt this franchise is going to fade into obscurity, by any means.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 29, 2014, 08:23:48 PM
You know what else Naruto is really bad with? Exposition. I mean, I thought that Togashi could get really anal with exposition in HXH, but this series takes it to a whole new level of bad.

For one thing, you have almost entire chapters devoted to just explaining what's going on, which in and of itself wouldn't be so bad, but then all of that explaining to set things up will quickly get ret-conned just 10 or 20 chapters later with even more exposition.

Case in point: Madara is explaining his plan about he and Obito will use the moon for Infinite Tsukuyomi, and he sets up all of this logic for how it works, but then when the characters are trying to find a way to stop him, in the middle of actual fighting, he's ret-conning things that he said before and calmly explaining to them how he accounted for their plans and what's "REALLY" happening, and then he betrays Obito and says that he planned that all along, and then Obito tries to get Sakura to kill him but then Madara says that he already planned for that and secretly gave him a seal that would prevent him from killing himself and protect him from death since he needed him alive in order for his convoluted plan to work.

However, what's even worse is that, putting the exposition aside, doesn't it really force you to stop taking it seriously when the villain, who's in the process of trying to kill the main characters and for a dream reality on the rest of the world is bothering to explain so much to their enemies, when by all means it shouldn't even matter since they won't remember anything if their goal is achieved?

The worst, and most hilarious offender is in the chapter that I just read. Kaguya is somehow using Black Zetsu to hold Naruto and Sasuke in place and drain their chakra, and maybe it's just bad translations, but this is an actual line of dialogue that comes up when he (Black Zetsu) is trying to spout out more exposition: "It's uncommon to see Indra and Ashura Transmigrants cooperate so much. Since you don't seem to know anything, I'll tell you that story while absorbing your chakra."

That just flat-out made me laugh. He's basically openly saying "I'm going to explain things to you guys while I'm actively in the process of killing you." Does that sound like a super serious threatening villain to you? He might as well have said this: "Since Kishimoto lacks the talent to inform his readers through natural story transitions and indirect implications, I'm going to blatantly explain to all of you some more backstory that he just pulled out of his ass to make more sense of things, even though every other time that he's done that he just made the story even more convoluted than before. Enjoy."
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Nel_Annette on October 30, 2014, 12:09:18 AM
Credit where it's due, Kishi. That final shot of the latest chapter. I did not expect that at all.

Spoiler
They lost their fucking hands. My eyes widened when I realized what I was looking at. Though because this is magical ninja land they can probably grow them back with tree dna or something.
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Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 30, 2014, 12:19:43 AM
I personally felt that shot was a bit unnecessary, especially since they'll probably be able to replace those easily enough, but it works because of the mood and subtext of the scene. What I particularly appreciated about the chapter, though, was the talk between Naruto and Sasuke, and Sasuke reflecting on his relationship with Naruto, and his actions to this point. I felt those were actually very well done and effective emotional moments, and a strong way to close off the rivalry between them. In the end, I'd say the fight ended the best way it possibly could, and as such was much better than I expected to be. It can't make me forget all the bullshit I had to endure to get to this point, so it doesn't really work for me as much as I'm sure it does fans of this series and these characters, but as a stand alone chapter and an unbiased standpoint, I would give it credit, and call it "good."
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 30, 2014, 12:19:57 AM
I'm still playing catch up, myself, but I'll also give Kishimoto some credit for that one scene that I just read where Naruto through Kaguya off-guard by using the Reverse Harem Jutsu. It reminds me of that scene in Guardians where Star Lord starts randomly dancing to throw off Ronan. It just made me chuckle, and it's one of the few times that humor in this series has worked, because it's so unexpected for what is essentially "the final boss" (or at least I assume that she is) of the series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 30, 2014, 10:04:07 PM
Let me be clear, this is still a terrible manga, but in trying to be more positive, I'll highlight 3 minor but noticeable things that I like about these chapters that are close to the end (I'm still 10 chapters behind), as that would be much easier than listing all of the things that I hate, which would go on forever:

-The "final boss" fight is focused on Team 7, and I generally like when long stories pay homage to the very beginning. It's more sentimental in value than actual good story-telling, but I like that notion of having something in the end be full circle of where it began. Of course other series have done it better than this one, for sure, like how the last episode of Buffy has such a great reference and tribute to an iconic scene from the first episode, for example, but all the same, even in this horribly written story, I still get a sense of that sentiment, which kind of gives me something positive to look at amidst all of the crap.

-While it goes to show how much I'm struggling just to find good things to say about this, since this point pretty much ties in with my previous point, I do like in particular how, since it is focusing on Team 7, it's mostly a team fight, even if Sakura is pretty useless, as usual. The bottom line, though, is that, unless it drastically changes in the last few chapters, it's not Naruto defeating all of the big bad guys by himself, but using the help of Sasuke and Kakashi as well.

-Some of the emotional bits almost sort of work. The thing is, those moments themselves are actually decently written. The problem is that, at the end of series like this, it only really fully comes to fruition if it feels like a good payoff to everything that the series has been building up to. Since a majority of the series was utter crap up to this point, even the best writer in the world couldn't effectively make you really give a shit about any of these characters anymore. A good example of a story that really does effectively make you feel the emotion in its final arc through constant good writing is Slam Dunk. But, even though Naruto doesn't have that, I'll give Kishimoto credit for clearly trying here, and his effort in this regard actually isn't bad. It's just that it's his own fault for fucking up his own story so badly that the emotional payoff just doesn't feel worth it in the end. Had the rest of the story been good, then these scenes would actually be really effective, though.

And that's about as far as I can push it. This manga is still garbage, though, but I'd say that in a sense, it can at least be entertainingly bad at parts.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 31, 2014, 01:48:45 PM
I finally caught up with Naruto. I don't know, that last page kind of made me chuckle for some reason. Anyways, it'll be great to finally put this series behind me in about a week. Then again there is that movie that's supposed to be the true ending, but it probably won't be subbed in high quality until the DVD comes out, so either way, I won't even have to think about Naruto for a long while.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 31, 2014, 10:23:24 PM
From what I can tell, the movie is just some epilogue kind of thing. At most the most significant thing that will happen in it is that Naruto and Hinata will get together or something. I doubt it will be all that necessary to watch.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 31, 2014, 10:47:36 PM
So, I've been looking around online, and geez, I'm seeing a hell of a lot of negative criticism over Fuuka's death. Some people are ragequitting the series and staying off of the mangaka's other works for good. Apparently the japanese reaction is just as severe, to the point that the mangaka went on twitter trying to convince fans that the reason why this had to happen will be made clear as the series goes on.

You know why I think so many shonen series play it so safe? Because that's what the majority of readers want to see. Try and do something a little different, and you either get canceled early or you get backlashed. And as a consequence, few mangaka are willing to take risks and try and tell more interesting stories different from the norm. Most of the people complaining about what happened in Fuuka are pissed off because they liked the character so much and they wanted the leads to have a happy ending. And that's fine, I can understand why people are sad, or a little mad, but so many are so vitriolic about this and I feel they are overreacting. I have a feeling that the mangaka had a plan for this. It's not like this development came out of nowhere; there was a fair amount of foreshadowing, in retrospect, especially in the weeks building up to this. I have no clue what direction the series will go, but I think it's better to just wait it out and see, because who knows, it might become an even better series after this.

My concern is that the negative comments might make Kodansha force the mangaka to pull his punches or he succumbs to the pressure and tries to do undo this somehow, but I really hope he just continues forward with the story he wanted to write. Unfortunately, considering this business, I'm not too confident about that. One thing I do know, though, of all the series I'm currently reading, Fuuka is the one where I'm most anxious to see what happens next, and most worried about the direction of it's story. For all the negative comments, it's had to have sparked some extra curiosity in the series among manga fans in Japan. There will be lots of readers who might ragequit it, but I bet many will be curious to see what will happen now, and others who hadn't checked it out might start to and see what's up. So I have a feeling the mangaka is going to really need to win over people in the next few chapters in order to continue this story. He took a big gamble, and now he's got to play his cards just right. I just want a good manga out of this, so I hope he succeeds in that.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 31, 2014, 10:55:07 PM
While I haven't read this manga that you speak of, I have respect for any mangaka willing to take risks, as long as it's not in the realm of completely terrible writing.

That said, one thing that I've learned ages ago are that 90% of anime and manga fans are absolutely horrible when it comes to series of this nature. They just want to see the same thing dealt to them in predictable fashion. They have no concept of actual quality writing and the sense of creating a story with consequences, because they just want escapism and anything negative that's not completely calculated reminds them too much of real life. Either that, or it's "Season of the Witch" syndrome, where they just don't want to see anything different, period.

Good thing Death Note came out when it did instead of in today's even worse society of rabid fans. I wonder how ape-shit people would've been over L's death now, as opposed to 10 years ago. Seriously, someone needs to force these people to read or watch something other than generic shonen manga. Show them some Tezuka or Urasawa or Urobuchi to mix it up a little.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 31, 2014, 11:27:54 PM
You know, if the series was a battle-shonen, where people die all the time, then I doubt the reaction would have been nearly as negative. But Fuuka is a romance/slice-of-life series grounded in everyday life. Most people going into these kind of mangas these days only seem to care about seeing the two leads fall in love and get together and nothing else, and obviously, that's what happens in 95% of these series. They don't care if they are formulaic and keep things is stasis for too long or follow every cliche in the book. Rarely do the leads not get a feel-good happy ending. Much less they do get together only 30 chapters into the series, and then the female lead, and the titular character of the series mind you, dies less than a year into the manga's serialization.

That kind of thing will never happen in by-the-numbers series like Nisekoi. Which is, of course, why they seem to be the most popular.

I would understand the negativity if it had been poorly written or came out of nowhere...but it wasn't. Reading through the chapters near the beginning of the series and the ones building up to it, and there was plenty of foreshadowing in the narration and in characters' behaviors. And the execution was really well-done, and very emotionally potent. Which, of course, is why I'm sure so many people are upset about this, because if you were invested in the character (and I was), you would feel crushed and shocked at her death and the aftermath of it. I haven't read the author's previous works, but apparently he has pulled some dark developments in his previous manga before...which is all the more reason why this shouldn't have surprised people. As for the quality of those series, I've heard mostly positive things on his first one, mixed opinions on his second, but having not read them myself, I can't speak for how they turned out overall. But, what I do know is that so far I've found Fuuka very enjoyable, and I think it can continue to be in the future. I just hope the author sticks to his guns and doesn't succumb to fan or editorial pressure.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 31, 2014, 11:38:40 PM
On another note, am I the only one who finds the title "The Last Naruto the Movie" to be a fucking stupid name for a movie, even by Japanese misuse of English standards? That has to be the worst one that I've heard since "Embalming: The Another Tale of Frankenstein." I mean, seriously, do some of the people behind these properties even realize how ridiculous these names sound in English? Because I think that they do know that it's not correct, but just don't give a shit, either. Well, if nothing else, I suppose that it's just harmlessly amusing.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Rynnec on November 01, 2014, 12:15:24 AM
This whole thing reminds me of how the Lyrical Nanoha went apeshit over the developments in Force, where a bunch of fan favorites got their asses handed to them by the arc villains. They all lost their shit and declared the villains of that manga to be "overpowered" and other bullshit like that (because god forbid villains are actually shown to be competent), even though it's extremely common in action manga for the heroes to lose against the villains in the first act of the story.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 01, 2014, 12:28:51 AM
Well, what happened in Fuuka is more atypical and consequential than that seems to be from your description, but yeah, I think most modern anime/manga fans just take things way too personally and overreact to things that don't go the way they expect/want way too hard.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 01, 2014, 03:09:52 PM
I find I have less to say than usual about the stuff this week, partly because I'm just not feeling in the mood, but also partly because there is not much to say about many of them:

A Silent Voice chapter 59 - And so now the characters are preparing the move into a new transition in their lives. Shoya is afraid to lose the friends he's made, particularly Nishimiya, and refuses to accept her decision to move to Tokyo. But he has to realize that it's time for everyone to move on, including himself. Will he follow Nishimiya to Tokyo? Perhaps. No matter where he goes, though, he should be fine. He's no longer afraid to get to know other people.

Bleach chapter 603 - I sort of liked that Sternritter's despair at realizing they were just disposable sources of energy for him and uses their lives to revive his elite Sternritters. But...what's the point, even? They got killed so fast before, so what's going to be different now? I guess we really have to see Squad Zero struggle to fight these guys? Bleh.

Boku no Hero Academia chapter 5 - So Midoriya is now going to need to prove his worth to a hardass instructor who is infamous for giving out high failing rates. I'm curious to see how he'll succeed, considering he can only use his powers to limited effect. Outside of this, I really liked the scene where he stood up to that bully who used to pick on him, telling him he was just as worthy as him to be accepted into Yuuhei. It'll be interesting to see how the dynamic between those two characters changes over time.

Fuuka chapter 37 - This chapter packed one heck of an emotional gut-punch. Very depressing and painful to see Fuuka's friends all slowly come to terms with her death and breakdown, and Yuu is so in denial that he spent an entire day waiting for her in a park, and didn't go to her funeral, and couldn't even shed a tear. Fuck damn. The end of the chapter promises "that was the beginning of the legend," and I'm definitely curious to see if this series has what it takes to become something truly fantastic.

GTO: Paradise Lost chapter 14 - So idol boy is the way he is because he had to perform oral on a cougar in order to get where he is and his career is still on the rocks? I don't know, but I found that incredibly fucking stupid. And of course Onizuka didn't actually get stabbed because he had a tomato juice can under his shirt and all that bullshit and he gets Sadako to reform her ways after just one talk because he's Onizuka and she's pretty so she doesn't have any real problems and whatever. God this was shit. I'll wait out the resolution, but I think I'll drop this series after this arc after all.

Hinomaru Zumo chapter 6 - A good chapter focusing on Ushio's doubts and Himomaru encouraging him by telling him that he respects him and he shouldn't give up. I wonder what his plan is to get Ushio and Yuuma to have a fighting chance in the rest of this tournament.

Kyoukai no Rinne chapter 190 - There isn't much I can find to say about this chapter, because it's a pretty standard episodic chapter for this series. Rin-ne getting gyped out of his half was hilarious, though.

Naruto chapter 698 - I actually could appreciate the dialogue between Naruto and Sasuke in this chapter and Sasuke reflecting on his history with Naruto and the actions he's taken until this point. Actually a good moment between them and strong resolution to the rivalry. It's unfortunate it's not as effective as it could have been, considering all the crap that has come before, but I can still throw it a bone for being well-done by itself.

Peephole chapter 45 - Every chapter of this series for the past few weeks has made me shot "oh fuck" out loud. This one was no exception. Holy shit is Kurosu screwed. I kind of think Miyachi won't arrive in time to bail him out. He might have to get his hands dirty for a change...and commit a murder himself. But can he do it?

The Seven Deadly Sins chapter 100 - Chapter 100! Woo! Hawk is alive! How?! I dunno, he just is. Anyway, nice little resolution chapter for this arc, and basically the series-long conflict that's existed since the very first chapter. Now, the question is, where do things go from here? Hopefully the direction will be made clear in next week's double chapters.

Shokugeki no Soma chapter 92 - Oh wow, both Hayama and Kurokiba tied? And so both of them will be proceeding to the finals!? I did not see that coming, but dang, this makes things even more interesting now. Soma and Hayama have their rivarly to settle, but Kurokiba is a dark horse with dangerous skills himself, so it could be anyone's win now. This series sure can get me excited. I can't wait to see how things will play out! 

Shonan Seven chapter 3 - Huh, this chapter was actually really entertaining. In some aspects, it reminded me of a kind of chapter I might see in SJG or OG GTO. I got a better grasp and investment in the characters than I had in the previous ones too. My interest in this series has definitely picked up a considerable bit.

Space Brothers chapter 238 - A nice, slow chapter focusing on the team relaxing the night before the big lift off, and then heading out in the middle of the night to get a look at the shuttle for themselves. Dang, I can't believe Mutta is FINALLY going into space. Next chapter should be incredibly emotionally rewarding.

Toriko chapter 299 - Aw, this chapter had one of those nice shonen moments where the protagonist comforts someone who, misguided, tries to kill him, and then offers him kindness in turn. And then the end of the chapter teases an epic showdown Toriko and the Instructor of the group of monkeys that attacked Toriko and co. and then were forced to commit suicide, Goritaurus. Toriko promises he's going to take down the cruel system of this continent, and I'm sure he'll succeed, but it ain't going to be easy I can already tell that much. Great chapter.

Rankings:

1. A Silent Voice - 10/10
2. Fuuka - 10/10
3. Shokugeki no Soma - 8/10
4. Toriko - 8/10
5. Boku no Hero Academia - 8/10
6. Hinomaru Zumo - 8/10
7. Peephole - 8/10
8. Space Brothers - 8/10
9. Shonan Seven - 8/10
10. Kyoukai no Rinne - 7/10
11. The Seven Deadly Sins - 7/10
12. Naruto - 6/10
13. GTO: Paradise Lost - 4/10
14. Bleach - 1/10

Hmm, a relatively shorter week than the last few have been, though I can't complain about that. Overall, these chapters were pretty solid, though only ASV and Fuuka were particularly stood out to me as great. Still, a lot of these chapters promised some good things to happen in the next ones, so I'm confident next week will be even better.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 04, 2014, 11:41:25 AM
Promo video for the Shokugeki no Soma anime. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ES9sGIfRCMs)

No animation or word of who'll be doing it, yet, but it's a cool trailer nonetheless.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 05, 2014, 05:26:50 PM
Takeshi Obata's got a new manga coming out in Jump. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-11-05/death-note-obata-to-relaunch-gakkyu-hotei-grade-school-legal-manga/.80694) Unfortunately, it seems it won't be another collaboration with Ohba. But the premise sounds interesting, so I'll give it a shot.

The other two new series set to come out in Jump look promising to me as well. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-11-05/2-shonen-jump-one-shot-manga-get-full-series/.80698) Moreso than the last batch of series two months back, at least. I'll keep an ear out and see if they turn out any good.

With A Silent Voice ending next week I'll be down a Weekly Shonen Magazine/Crunchyroll manga, so I might as well finally check out Yamada-kun and the Seven Witches. Hopefully it's as good as it's popularity suggests it is.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Nel_Annette on November 05, 2014, 06:38:03 PM
...Did they seriously just announce a Part 3 to Naruto focusing on his and Hinata's kids? Dear god, it never ends. This series never ends!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 05, 2014, 06:41:05 PM
Yeah....well, I'm not reading it anyways, so however this part of the manga ends, I'll just consider it to be the overall conclusion to the series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 05, 2014, 06:50:44 PM
It's only a mini-series. I couldn't care less.

Besides, did you really think this franchise would just stop? It's way too big for that. Even with the manga over, we'll still be seeing plenty of Naruto spinoffs, media, etc. for years to come.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 05, 2014, 06:53:26 PM
And I'll be happily ignoring all of it! :sly:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Nel_Annette on November 05, 2014, 08:16:15 PM
I feel obligated to ride this shit-fueled train right to the bitter end, right off a cliff and into the ocean.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 05, 2014, 08:35:40 PM
There's no indication that Kishimoto is even writing the mini-series. Even so, there is no "end" to this thing, because it's a franchise. Think about stuff like Star Wars. That was over, right? But then they made a bunch of expanded universe stuff, and spinoffs, and prequels, and so on and on. This too. They will keep making new spinoffs and media for Naruto for years to come. The manga that this franchise has sprouted from is going to end. For me, that's the end. Unless Kishimoto makes a direct sequel to it, that's just going to be it, and anything else is irrelevant to me.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 05, 2014, 09:09:43 PM
On another note, though I'm still far, far, far, FAR from being even close to caught up with it (I'm STILL only half-way into the first anime...), I've been checking out recent chapters of Hajime no Ippo for the last few months time and again casually, like I do with other series I've an established interest in but not caught up on like Gintama and Nisekoi, and while the fight with Gonzalez was very good from what I saw of it, the aftermath is what's really got my attention and has had me read the new chapters every week for the last few weeks. Not only has Ippo lost a match for the first time in 15 years (apparently) in what is his second loss ever, it was for the world title, so it was pretty devastating for both him and a lot of people around him, and Ippo's also in pretty damn bad shape now, to the point where his girlfriend (I think?) asked him to stop boxing, and Ippo's decided that the next time he loses a match, he's going to call it quits and retire. And then in the most recent chapter he went to go help his mangaka friend but he kept having trouble holding the pen right, and couldn't even draw a straight line. All this makes me wonder if he's got punch-drunk syndrome like Joe got in AnJ, and if so, if he's going to be going down just as self-destructive a path he did. Even though I'm not caught up, this development kind of makes me want to keep reading to see what happens next, so I'm pretty on the fence here.

I'm feeling the same way with Gintama too, actually, because the last few chapters have been really great and game-changing as well, and I've found myself reading the new chapters for it every week as well. This tells me I need to finally catch up with these series ASAP so that I can enjoy them properly. With Gintama I might wait and see if it ends after this arc because I heard that might happen and honestly Takasugi and Kamui are the fucking main villains of this series and they're basically succeeding in their goals right now and the final showdowns between them and Gintoki and Kagura respectively have been a long time coming...but Katsura hasn't shown up yet and I don't get how this can be the final arc and have Takasugi in it but not include him, so it might not actually be the final one. Either way, even though it's half as long, a chapter of Gintama takes legitimately three times longer to read than a chapter of HnI, so I guess I'll just try and catch up on the latter first. I'm going to have to wait until Winter Break in order to be able to marathon it, though, since I'm not going to have much time to waste the remainder of the semester and have other stuff I have to polish off in what I do have too.

In any case, you're caught up with HnI, right E-K? What do you think of the recent chapters and how the story might develop from this point on?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 05, 2014, 09:41:08 PM
Actually I left off on chapter 960, so I'm a little over a hundred chapters behind, but I do know about the recent development, and let me say that I am SO glad that Ippo finally lost again. You have no idea how tedious it gets when a character wins far too much. It took him 15 years or so, but Morikawa finally decided to throw a curve ball into the mix. I honestly love the first anime for cutting so much fat out of the manga and adapting the best parts of it, for the most part, but the series begins to lag past the first 400 chapters, with a few bright spots in that drought.

As for keeping up with the manga, I say go for it. That said, I don't recommend reading everything up to that point. I mean, I pretty much almost have, so I might as well read everything chronologically the rest of the way, but for the average person, it's just not worth it. If you really want, I can give you a "best of" recommendation, so that you only have to view the parts that were pretty good, and can skip all of the boring stuff. Or you can just keep up with the manga as is. As you can see, this is the sort of series where you don't have to have seen everything in continuity, and it's very accessible to pick up any time and keep up with.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 05, 2014, 09:58:49 PM
Yeah, thinking about it, I suppose I'll just keep reading it from this point on. It seems like it'll be a Detective Conan situation for me. I started keeping up with that 700+ chapters in after only watching the first 200 episodes of the anime and reading the first 30 volumes, but I picked up what was going on pretty fast. I do want to actually read all of HnI in it's entirety, though, so I will continue to read/watch through it from the beginning as I have been, but it's so long that I probably won't have the patience to marathon through it, especially if it drags as much as you say, so I'll just read what I can every now and then until eventually I've read it all.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 05, 2014, 11:12:51 PM
Really, just finishing the anime and watching the first sequel, New Challenger, covers most of the good parts (roughly the first 400 chapters), IMO. There are some other good fights, and the WWII labor camp flashback arc is excellent, IMO, but the vast majority is just too much of the same formuka. Nothing is Naruto or Bkech levels of bad, but it feels derivative of what the series had already done better in its best days, aside from a couple of arcs that pick up the pace (and currently we seem to be in one of those arcs, thankfully). So trust me, it's really not worth all of the time. If I were so inclined, I'd say that the fights with Sawamura and Woli were pretty good, and Itagaki's rookie tournament fights were entertaining as well. Other than that, there's not too much else noteworthy, aside from Aoki and Kimura's always hilarious shenanigans, which is one of the few things that I never got tired of.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 06, 2014, 10:35:59 AM
Well, Naruto is finally over, and it was basically everything that everyone already predicted. For chaoters like this to work, you actually really have to care about the characters after having seen them developed after so many years, which would make the ending seem bittersweet. As most of this manga was shit, the epilogue just felt like a fanfiction. I'll admit that the sentimental side of me appreciated the callback to the very first chapter, but that's about all that really stood out to me. Well, that and the Straw Hat Pirates logo painted onto the Naruto face statue's forehead, which was a neat little One Piece reference, even though Ruouni Kenshin still did it first. That was probably my favorite thing about the final chapter, actually. :P

Anyways, this series is finally behind me. I....can't say that it will be missed.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 06, 2014, 11:28:47 AM
It's cute that both Naruto and One Piece referenced each other in their latest chapters. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2014-11-06/one-piece-manga-sends-off-naruto-with-a-classy-secret-message/.80738)

Anyway, the final chapters were basically what I expected...except even more hilariously dumb than I thought it would be. I probably would have liked 699 a bit if everything that came before it wasn't so terribly written, but that 700th chapter was like some shitty fanfic-y a teenage fangirl would write. Much like how the Kaguya twist reminded me how the villain twist in InuYasha was so much better, this just reminds me how much better InuYasha's ending was too. Couples got together in that series...but there was, like, genuine build-up and development on all of them in the final arc of the series. Even outside of the fact Kagome and InuYasha's relationship is basically the crux of the final encounter with Magatsuhi and the Shikon Jewel, Miroku and Sango's relationship was also heavily focused on and they promised to marry each other before heading off to the final battle with Naraku and stuff, and it played a part influencing their decisions in that final battle, and them being married with three kids at the end of the series came across as legitimately earned, unlike this stuff. Like, no one here genuinely had a romantic relationship, outside of fan shipping, so Kishimoto was basically giving the shippers what they want here without real justification to do so, and the way he executed it was in the most predictable, lame way possible. Well, at least it's over with, though. Can't complain about not having it around anymore.

Later when I feel up to it I might write something about my overall history and thoughts on the series. Probably not today because I'm busy, but sometime when I get the time. On that note, we still on for writing about how crappy the final arc was, E-k? I probably won't get the time to until mid-December, though.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 06, 2014, 11:56:02 AM
Y'know, thinking about it, that final chapter had like a ton of plot holes. Like, where the fuck did Orochimaru and Kabuto go? They're still alive and about, but we didn't see them in the final chapter. And what about Karin? What, am I to believe she just gave up on Sasuke like that? In that case, where the hell did she, and Jugo and Suigetsu for that matter, go? In fact, did we see Sai in the last chapter? Where's he? I dunno, it's odd that Kishi neglected to mention the fates of these characters at all, when he did for a lot of others.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 06, 2014, 11:56:48 AM
Definitely, though I don't have much time either. I'll have to keep anyng thing that I write fairly brief and to the point.

And as for the whole couples thing, it really does bug me how bad most shonen are at portraying them. Like, with Naruto and Hinata, there was literally no chemistry between the 2 characters. It was established since early on in the series that Hinata had a crush on Naruto, sure, but over 700 chaoters they barely ever interacted with each other or even built up the pretense of a relationship. The fact that they have to use the final movie to expand on that is a failure of Kishimoto's own writing. It's the same with Sasuke and Sakura, with the former absolutely never showing any romantic interest in the latter, but just because Sakura had a crush on Sasuke, to the point of being flat-out pathetic after he went rogue, Kishimoto made it a thing.

And I'm not accusing only Kishimoto of doing this, as other shonen mangaka are guilty of that as well, but since Naruto is the easiest current example to use, I can't help but target it. Honestly, I'm not even a big fan of romance stories and could completely do without them if they aren't done well, but if mangaka insist on putting themin their stories, than at least actually show some semblance of what a relationship actually is, rather than just sticking 2 characters together by the end because they "make a cute couple" or some shit like that.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 06, 2014, 12:04:21 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on November 06, 2014, 11:56:02 AMY'know, thinking about it, that final chapter had like a ton of plot holes. Like, where the fuck did Orochimaru and Kabuto go?They're still alive and about, but we didn't see them in the final chapter. And what about Karin? What, am I to believe she just gave up on Sasuke like that? In that case, where the hell did she, and Jugo and Suigetsu for that matter, go? In fact, did we see Sai in the last chapter? Where's he? I dunno, it's odd that Kishi neglected to mention the fates of these characters at all, when he did for a lot of others.

Just because I'm a nitpicky ass-hole (and don't pretend like you're not :D), I should point out that those aren't technically plot holes. A plot hole is when a two or more events within the same established continuity don't add up due to stark contradictions. Like, one event makes another one impossible within the context of that universe, but both still exist anyways, thus creating a sort of plot paradox, or as it's more frequently referred to, a plot hole.

In the case of those other characters, those are simply unanswered questions, but since they are unanswered, it can't be claimed whether or not any of that I formation, if ever revealed, would contradict the epilogue of the story. Most likely you're just meant to assume that all of those characters and their stories got resolved off-screen, which I'm sure that we both agree is absolutely lazy writing. However, on the flip side, do we really even care? I mean, would you REALLY want to read even more chapters of this shitty manga giving closure to shitty characters that we never even cared about in the first place? :sly:

Oh, and also, Sai can be seen standing next to Ino in one of the panels. I guess they became a couple? It makes about as much sense as any other randomly stuck together characters in this epilogue.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 06, 2014, 12:22:56 PM
Yeah, as far as battle-shonen go, I can probably name all the romantic relationships I thought were well done/liked on one hand. Outside of battle-shonen, though, I can think of many well-written examples, but battle-shonen series just don't handle these things well most of the time, from what I've seen.

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 06, 2014, 12:04:21 PM
Just because I'm a nitpicky ass-hole (and don't pretend like you're not :D), I should point out that those aren't technically plot holes. A plot hole is when a two or more events within the same established continuity don't add up due to stark contradictions. Like, one event makes another one impossible within the context of that universe, but both still exist anyways, thus creating a sort of plot paradox, or as it's more frequently referred to, a plot hole.

In the case of those other characters, those are simply unanswered questions, but since they are unanswered, it can't be claimed whether or not any of that I formation, if ever revealed, would contradict the epilogue of the story. Most likely you're just meant to assume that all of those characters and their stories got resolved off-screen, which I'm sure that we both agree is absolutely lazy writing. However, on the flip side, do we really even care? I mean, would you REALLY want to read even more chapters of this shitty manga giving closure to shitty characters that we never even cared about in the first place? :sly:

Oh, and also, Sai can be seen standing next to Ino in one of the panels. I guess they became a couple? It makes about as much sense as any other randomly stuck together characters in this epilogue.

Well, you know what I meant.  :P

Orochimaru was the freaking main villain of this series for the first half of it, and his influence was very important in the grand scheme of things in general. It bothers me that we wouldn't see what they did with him now that this shit is all over. Kabuto, as well, was basically equally as responsible for the war as Obito was, so it annoys me that we don't see what happened to him either.

Like, in InuYasha, we never find out what happened to Koga after he had to give up on fighting Naraku, but at least he got closure to his character arc and his relationships with other characters. I admit Kabuto did get an actual resolution to his character arc, but Orochimaru, Karin, Suigetsu, Jugo, etc. never got real closure to their stories, Kishimoto just forgot to show what happened to them, and that's what bugs me, because he set up that they were going to actually do stuff only for them to be completely forgotten after the Kaguya twist happened.

And Sai was an important character for a good chunk of this series too. I always hated the shit out of him. Still, the fact that he doesn't even have a speaking role in the final chapter and gets randomly paired up with Ino, who I don't believe he ever even had an legitimate interaction with, in one throwaway panel, is fucking dumb.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 06, 2014, 12:40:29 PM
I agree that it's really bad to leave all of that stuff out from a writing standpoint, but I'm just saying that with all of the problems this series already had, combined with the fact that I never liked any of those characters to begin with, I'm more indifferent to their exclusion than ticked off about it. At the end of the day, even if their character arcs did get concluded, it would still be utter shit, and would force me to sit through even more of this manga. So, in that regard, I'm simply just glad that this whole thing has been put behind me all the sooner.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 06, 2014, 12:51:56 PM
Also, you know how I was complaining about Naruto and Hinata being a couple even though they barely ever interacted with each other over the course of 700 chapters? Guess what I just realized? They didn't even interact at ANY SINGLE POINT in the FINAL chapter! We're just supposed to assume that they are together, but even in the very end, Kishimoto doesn't actually show them even on the same page, let alone the same panel. The same goes for Sakura and Sasuke. Well, if nothing else, at least he is consistently bad at writing romance....and writing in general.

Seriously, though, this is just as bad as the Digimon Adventure 02 and Harry Potter epilogues, except those ones hurt to watch/read more because the series that they were concluding were actually good, for the most part. Over here it's definitely bad, but I must admit that it's "hilariously" bad, so that may be the only perk to this final arc being as big of a POS as it was.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 06, 2014, 01:27:46 PM
This has made my day  :lol: : Jason Thompson attempts to read all of Naruto in 48 hours (part 1). (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/house-of-1000-manga/2014-11-06/naruto/.80741)

I can't wait until he gets to the Shinobi War and has to endure all that shit. I hope he gets uncharacteristically infuriated. The only truly spiteful review he ever did was for Usagi Drop, so that would be a treat.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 06, 2014, 02:03:45 PM
Goddamn, that's got to be the most sadistic thing that I've ever seen a fan of manga do, and that's saying something. I'll bookmark it for later.

Anyways, reflecting on this and other less than stellar endings in manga have inspired me to make a top 10 list of manga/anime endings that I actually really liked and felt did their respective series justice. Here is what I came up with:

10. Yu Yu Hakusho (anime)- An epilogue that's actually not cringe-worthy for a change.

9. Mobile Suit Gundam 0080: War in the Pocket- It may be cheating considering how short this series is, but a great ending is a great ending, all the same.

8. Monster- While not necessarily perfect, for a series as well-written as this one, to pull off such an ending without disappointing any of the readers was nearly impossible, and somehow Urasawa still managed to do it, even if some ass-hats still love to complain about it and, in the process, miss the point of the ending, and the entire point of the series to begin with.

7. Trigun (anime)- Vash carrying Knives off slung over his shoulder is class.

6. Puella Magi Madoka Magica- That last episode really is pretty heartwarming (and the epilogue doesn't kill it depending on how you interpret it).

5. Rurouni Kenshin (manga)- Another one of the few times that an epilogue actually turned out to be really satisfying, and the actual conclusion to the final arc itself was brilliant.

4. Cowboy Bebop- The ending everyone praises, and while we all love that last shot of Spike, it's really the intensity of the The Real Folk Blues 2-parter that makes this ending so good.

3. Slam Dunk- That last shot, man, that last shot.

2. Ashita no Joe (manga/anime)- The iconic scene that everyone praises Cowboy Bebop for, but which this series did decades before it ever even existed; though this last fight itself is also super climactic and excellent.

1. Death Note (manga)- Yep, still my favorite in terms of pure satisfaction.

There are other endings which I enjoyed as well, but these are my favorites.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Foggle on November 08, 2014, 02:48:07 AM
Good news, everyone! http://www.ign.com/articles/2014/11/07/naruto-manga-sequel-coming-in-2015
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 08, 2014, 08:26:08 AM
Old news, friend! And it's only a mini-series! And of course there will be spinoffs upon spinoffs for one of the biggest anime/manga franchises of all time! But who cares! I don't care! The main series is done, kaput, over! I DON'T HAVE TO READ IT ANYMORE! So...MEH!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 09, 2014, 08:46:50 AM
So it looks like J.C. staff will be doing the Shokugeki no Soma anime. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-11-09/j.c-staff-food-wars-shokugeki-no-soma-anime-casts-yoshitsugu-matsuoka/.80833) They haven't done anything good in a long time, but I think their production values are solid enough. None of the people working on the show leave me particularly excited, though, but I'll wait and see how it turns out.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 09, 2014, 08:57:32 AM
Oh, and the first Assassination Classroom anime trailer featuring actual animation has come out! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8d7Xh4p7Ca4)

...Not terribly impressed. I never liked Seiji Kishi's style, and it really seems like it works against the series here. The bold lines in particular give everything a static look, making it unbelievable the characters are moving, and existing in the environment around them. It's a total clash of aesthetics. And the actual animation itself looks really limited, which is disappointing, because a character like Korosensei has so much mileage to get out of with expressive movements, and Yusei Matsui takes total advantage of that in his manga. There were only a few scenes shown here, of course, so maybe if I see more I can get a better grasp on it, but right now, it doesn't seem like this will turn out all that well. That's a shame, since this could have been such a fun watch, and Classroom really needed a great anime to become a hit overseas. But maybe I'm jumping the gun a bit, and the first ep will prove me wrong. But I certainly have less expectations for this than I did before.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 09, 2014, 09:06:25 AM
Hey, you guys want to look at something neat?

Shueshia has put a digital copy of the Naruto's debut issue in Shonen Jump online. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-11-09/shonen-jump-posts-naruto-entire-debut-issue-online/.80838) Now, I know that nobody here cares about that, but the issue was also the same one that included Rurouni Kenshin's finale, which, I'm sure IS interesting for people on this board. The chapters of the other series in it are also neat to look at. It's worth a flip, especially just to see where Jump was back then and compare it to how it is now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 09, 2014, 02:28:26 PM
I have to be honest in saying that I don't think that writing villains is a particular strength of Ohtaka's. Her 2 best ones so far were Cassim and Mogamett, IMO, particularly because they were actually 3-dimensional characters, but even then I found them to be severely lacking in personality. Cassim was often either obviously deceptive (though that was when he was at his best) or irrationally angry. Mogamett was also either very angry or super nice. We never got to see him at any real conflict with himself until the end, and there his personalities were black and white, with very little gray in-between.

Most other villains in the series, as sinister as they can be, are honestly very one-note. I remember how Gyokuen didn't seem the least bit distraught by The Medium being taken out, which most people seem to interpret as her being a great villain who has everything under her control, but personally I can't stand that "all according to plan" sort of demeanor. I find villains most interesting when they are either on a level playing field with the heroes, or if they have a clear sense of conflict with what they are doing, like Meruem from Hunter X Hinter. I just don't get that from the villains in amagi, which IMO is the manga's biggest weakness.

I. Only mention this because in the last few chapters we've been spending time with Hakuryuu and Judar, and I've honestly been bored by it so far. Both have the potential to be really interesting, as the backstory and motives are clearly there, and they could be really 3-dimensional anti-heroes since they hate Al Thamen as well, but also don't want to be on the side of the other kingdoms, making them a solo duo out for their own gains, and not on anyone else's side. It's just that the potential feels wasted because they are just showing the evil sides of themselves rather than the actual relatable motives they have for doing what they are doing, which would make them more interesting characters. With Judar, we've had hints at his backstory, but we haven't h the full story revealed to us yet as to how he turned out like he did. On the other hand, we have Hakuryuu's whole backstory, yet while that should make his character more sympathetic, Ohtaka sees fit to give him the Sasuke buzz-kill complex and just have the "everyone is my enemy" attitude, which doesn't even make sense because at least his sister would probably support him if he wasn't irrationally evil about all of this and if he could convince her of the truth of how their father and brothers were really killed, which he hasn't even tried.

The bottom line being, though, that these characters SHOULD be more interesting than they currently are, and certainly have the means to be, but Ohtaka is disappointingly going down the predictable route with them as she honestly does with most other villains in the series. I do still like this series on the whole, but I've always wondered what it is that stops me from outright calling it great, and to me this is one of the bigger factors that's holding it back from its full potential as a series.

Now, don't get me wrong. While I find most of the villains to be lacking compared to everything else in the series, I still don't think anything about them is outright bad. We're not talking anything anywhere even close to Naruto's Black Zetsu and Kaguya level's of terrible, or even any of its other villains. In fact, the closest thing we ever had to a well-written villain in that series goes as far back as Zabuza, who got killed off early, and then he's followed by Orochimari, and even Magi's worst villains are written better than he is. Still, if in terms of depth if I were to compare any of them to a Togashi villain, or in terms of just raw personality if I were to compare them to a villain from Dragon Ball, One Piece, or JoJo's, I find that they fall a bit flat for me, which is a real shame.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 09, 2014, 07:25:04 PM
I do agree that how Ohtaka has been handling Hakuryuu and Judar in the recent chapters has not been well-done, and the chapters themselves have been rather dull. I really am not fond of this Sasuke-like direction Hakuryuu is taking, and for him to just turn on his friends and family as his enemies so easily like that was just not executed well at all (and I said as much in my summary for that chapter). It just seems like Ohtaka took what could have been a character who would go against his loved ones and the world for the sake of pursuing his own ambitions but didn't have anything against them either (like Midora in Toriko), for the sake of a character who is just irrational and insane about it, which I feel very disappointed about. I'm hoping that he doesn't devolve into truly Sasuke-esque territory, but the direction his character has taken has made the last few chapters a bit frustrating and meh to read for me.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 09, 2014, 08:25:22 PM
Yeah, and I'm pretty disappointed because I really thought that Ohtaka was setting him up asan anti-hero of sorts. Like, when he killed that Umm Madaura, it was a dark turn for his character, but not a full-on heel turn. It caused dissonance between him and the main 3, but it didn't put them in direct opposition either. I liked the idea of him going on his own, aiming to take out the their common enemy, but going about it in a way that the main characters just couldn't stomach since it involved becoming cold-blooded killers. It'd also be interesting to see Al Thamen getting opposition form someone who. Was out for blood, which for once would put the villains under some serious pressure, while also keeping a conflict there for the heroes as they'd want to be able to redeem Hakuryuu to his former self. I actually am fine with him teaming up with Judar, as I thought that it's be great to see how Judar could manipulate him and bring out his dark side in stark contrast to how the other 3 brought out his good side, and we did get a little bit of that, but it hasn't received as much focus as I was expecting. I'm hoping that future chaoters can remedy this, because I'm seeing some seriously wasted potential, here.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 11, 2014, 11:46:00 AM
So, apparently Rin-ne has a super important announcement next week. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2014-11-10/rumiko-takahashi-rin-ne-manga-has-super-important-announcement-next-week/.80867) Also, the domain name anime-rinne.com (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2014-11-11/domain-anime-rinne.com-registered-before-rin-ne-manga-announcement/.80896) was registered two weeks ago. I'm pretty confident this means that Rin-ne is finally getting an anime. Though I contend that it's the weakest of Takahashi's major works, I do still enjoy reading it, and in the right hands an anime version could be a lot of fun. I wonder if they'll get Kappei Yamaguchi to play Rin-ne?  It'd be amusing to see him play yet another Rumiko Takahashi lead character.  :D
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 12, 2014, 10:06:31 PM
I picked HnI back up (finally) and I'm now 1,000 chapters in. The last few fights were so disappointingly boring, but the manga has had some interesting developments since I started reading it again.

For one thing, I like how Mashiba was pissed at Kimura for half-assign his last few matches, which he feels makes him look bad since Kimura nearly beat him during their title match. Meanwhile Aoki went in to fight the guy who brutalized his rival, the former champion of his weight class, and in turn got brutalized himself, yet he claims that he's happy that he now has someone big to overcome in his weight class, just like how Ippo has Miyata and Itagaki has Imai.

Also, Vorg's world title match is surprisingly good so far. This one hardly had any buildup to it. But for a relatively minor character, he's always entertaining to watch. Speaking of which, it got me thinking of my top 10 favorite fights from this manga. Here's what I have come up with:

10. Miyata vs. Mashiba (RK Tournament Semi-Finals)- Making this list made me realize that. Miyata kind of sucks for being Ippo's rival. He was entertaining enough in their spar, but to me this is his only stand-out official match in the series so far, probably because Mashiba is just such an effective heel.

9. Kimura vs. Mashiba (JLC Title Match)- Despite being a comedic side character for the most part, this match gave him his chance to shine, and he proves to be a very compelling boxer when he gets serious. It's just too bad that he's releagated to being a joke character most of the time. Also, once again, Mashiba is just a great opponent to go against. He makes any match that he's in more entertaining by his presence alone.

8. Kamogawa vs. Anderson (Post-WWII Era Flashback)- Probably the closest that this series ever gets to an Ashita no Joe style fight, this arc was great, and this fight was a perfect way to cap it off. It really shows you how bad-ass Kamogawa was back in the day, which is why he's so highly respected among this colleagues as a trainer.

7. Itagaki vs. Imai (RK Tournament Finals)- Generally I'm not much of a fan of Itagaki, but his Rookie King matches were quite good, and this one in particular was well-done, with lots of build-up to it that ended up paying off.

6. Mashiba vs. Sawamura (JLC Title Match)- This is quite frankly a type of match that we really need more of. I love it when 2 heel personas go up against each other. Of course, going into this match, Mashiba comparatively comes off as a baby face, but I love how Sawamura's constant fowls bring out Mashiba's bad side, and he's back to being as dirty as he ever was, leading to the most unclean match in the entire series, and it's all the more entertaining (and somewhat more hilarious) for it.

5. Ippo vs. Sawamura (JFC Title Match)- Sawamura is also of course a great heel in his own right, and his match with Ippo brings in a level of intensity that the series had been lacking for several matches before this fight took place.

4. Date vs. Martinez (WBA FC Title Match)- Up until recently, Date was the only person to have ever defeated Ippo in an official match, so he was already established as being insanely strong. However, Ricardo Martinez is this manga's equivalent to Jose Mendoza, and any AnJ fan would know what that means. The clash between 2 seemingly undefeatable figures for the world title is easily one of the best confrontations that this series has ever had to offer.

3. Ippo vs. Date (JFC Title Match)- Well, I already spoiled the outcome of this match, but it is so well done that even knowing that fact doesn't hurt the impact of this fight. It's a devastating blow to Ippo's confidence, yet when he (and us as the audience) look back on it, the fight that he put up was clearly on a level good enough to take down Date had he not let himself get so mentally psyched out by an intimidating opponent. On the plus side, though, it prevents Ippo from ever getting cocky as a boxer, and even gives him someone to respect and look up to for the future.

2. Takamura vs. Hawk (WBC JMC Title Match)- Easily the most violent match in the series, this one just has so much at stake that it had to be this good. Bryan Hawk is by far the cruelest heel ever featured in this manga, and the fact that Takamura himself is a violent brawler makes the heated confrontation between the 2 of them the most perfect match-up that you could ask for.

1. Ippo vs. Sendo (JFC Title Match)- I already talked about this one on my favorite manga/anime fights thread, and I still consider it to be one of the best physical fights that I have ever seen in the medium. It just has so much heart to it, and the battle is so even,h matched that it never gets boring for even a second. The tables are always turning, and there's always a surprise that keeps the match feeling unpredictable until the very end. The anime version in particular is great for the animation and its use of music.

Overall, while this series has its mediocre to bad fights, it had a ton of great and memorable ones as well. It's also one of the few battle shonen/sports series that is good at making fights not involving the main character just as interesting (if not more so) than any of the actual main fights. In most other shonen, that usually just comes off as filler, but in this manga I actually tend to care about many of these matches.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 12, 2014, 11:29:47 PM
Since I refuse to spoil myself on the latest Silent Voice and Fuuka chapters before I do this, I better stop dawdling and sum my thoughts on last week's stuff up already:

A Bride's Story chapter 41 - Most of this chapter was just very, well, cute. Enjoyably so. It's just so very rare to just see a celebration of friendship, especially female friendship, like this in manga, and it's interesting that there was this legit cultural practice in some arab cultures where adult women basically swore to be "best friends forever,' pretty much, and the moments between Anis and Shirin and their ceremony, with everyone being so supportive of their friendship and getting into planning and making everything go well together, was just, for lack of a better world, adorable. And then the ending of the chapter. Hmm...can't say I didn't expect something like this to happen, but I imagine it would be pretty devastating for Anis' husband to die, if he does. What I imagine is that this will force her to reexamine her relationship with him, and might put a strain with her pact with Shirin, somehow. That seems like the most likely direction, but I have a feeling Mori will do something I won't expect, like she always does, so I'll just have to wait and see.  :sweat:

A Silent Voice chapter 60 - Aw...so Shoya ended up making Shoko feel wary about moving to Tokyo, and he feels so awful about it. And he just keeps wondering: What am I going to do? Not just with this situation, but with his life. It's re-enforced during his meet-up with his Nagatsuka and co., where they all have plans for the future and, while not all them know what they want to do in life, they are going to do what they want to do. (On that note, I love how Mashiba doesn't dissuade Kawai from following him to the same college he goes to and how nonchalantly he says he likes her...third best after children. And then Nagatsuka's like "ah, she's pretty high. I like kids too." That was a wonderfully funny moment.) But, what does Shoya want to do? That's what he's trying to figure out. For so much of his life he was just miserable and going through the motions. Then he finally found purpose in making amends with Nishimiya and helping her find friends and being a friend to her. But that job's done now. She's found a goal and is ready to move on with her life, and Shoya needs to find one too. But right now he feels he's held her back by making her reconsider her decision to move to Tokyo. And so that scene with Yuzuru...man, it's just so nice to see how their relationship is now compared to when they first met, and how they both feel about Shoko's decision: sad that she would be out of their lives for a bit, but at the same time knowing that it's for the best she leaves to do what she wants. And so Shoya sends a text telling her to go for it after all, and Yuzuru plans to work hard to make sure her sister wont stay behind because she's worried about her. And so what does Shoya do now? What does he become now? That's the question the final two chapters should be sure to answer, and I can't wait to see what it is.

Assassination Classroom chapter 106 - I'm loving the depth being added to Irina's character, and showing her mixed feelings about what she's doing but doing it because she feels she HAS to reclaim the bloodlust she once had and return to that world, believing that she cannot continue to live a happy, carefree life with Class 3-E, and that has dulled not only her skills, but her sense of self as a person. And I appreciate how Korosensei reinforces that Irina IS very skilled, and very dangerous, and while the students have come a long way and may, at some point, started to consider Irina in somewhat mocking terms, she is still above their level, and not someone they can outmatch the way they are now. And I also love Karasuma's part of the chapter, showing how skillful and experienced he is, even on a borderline superhuman level, and there was just a lot of great action, and great humor, in this section. And then the ending of the chapter, with the students feeling down and saying "we can't measure up to these guys" and Korosensi basically saying "yes, they are strong. So what are you going to do? You can't just become suddenly stronger nor can you just give up and die. But there is something you can do; there is a way for the weak to fight." And so that gives them an idea of how they can use their own skills, their own concept of assassination, to give themselves a fighting chance and throw a wrench into God of Death's plans. Just a really well-written chapter with a lot going on and so many great character moments. AC has been on a roll with this arc and every week just keeps getting better. I can't wait to see how Class E manages to outwit God of Death and where Irina's character arc goes from here.

Attack on Titan chapter 63 - You know, that scene aside, this wasn't a merit-less chapter. There were, in fact, a lot of good developments on Eren's front with the backstory about Historia's sister and how Eren's dad apparently killed her (and most of the rest of her family), and how that may not be the complete truth, as Eren sees a flashback of events eerily similar to what he's seeing before his eyes now, which brings into question whether Reiss is who he says he is and pretty much confirming that he is basically manipulating Historia into order to get her to steal Eren's power for his purposes. Beyond that, we have some decent talk of the ramifications of the coup on Pixis' front as well as suspicions about Kenny the Ripper and the secret behind the Ackername surname and family line. But, of course, for all the good there was in this chapter, THAT scene had to also be in here. It's like...AOT has these moments like that where it does something so unbelievably stupid and dumb that it completely undermines my ability to take it seriously and hampers my enjoyment of it. It don't get why that was even in there. It's not funny, and it certainly doesn't portray the good guys in any manner of a positive light. If it were not for that one scene, I probably would have rated this chapter a lot higher. But, again, some good stuff was in here, and there are definitely a few developments that could lead into some interesting things down the line, that I'm curious to see developed in future chapters.

Bakuon chapter 9 - So, helmet-girl apparently was a former student of the old motorcycle club who supposedly got seriously hurt or something in a race, and this chapter was basically her meeting with...I forget what position she has, but an old fellow club member who is now a teacher, and basically her involvement with the club means it can be formed now. I believe this is the first time I have talked about this series in these recaps, and basically, while I'm not a fan of these sorts of "Cute girls do some activity cutely" like K-On and stuff, this one got me interested on the premise and with some genuinely good humor, and the first volume of chapters was pretty enjoyable. This chapter, though, kind of misses the mark for me, as it felt much more like one of those cgdcac kinds of chapters and repeated some overused jokes and was kinda boring and forgettable as a result. I hope future chapters are more entertaining, but for the first one in...three months or something, I was pretty unamused with this 'un.

Bleach chapter 604 - Why the hell is Bazz B still alive? Sternritter N died instantly when he got hit with the light, but Bazz B is holding on like it's nothing. Anyway, I guess this chapter is setting up Shunsui and maybe Byakuya heading to the Soul King's Palace to help out, which sorta makes sense but also doesn't because you'd think they'd be so much weaker than Squad Zero's guys they couldn't do that much, but this is Bleach so it's not like I ever expect power levels to mean shit. So, anyway apparently Ywach's goons are stronger now and they kill...what was his name again. Meh, I don't care. Basically Ywach is out of the tree barrier thing and now going to fight with the captain of Squad Zero which is totally something we should care about because the captain of Squad Zero is totally someone who we have come to care about through the course of many chapters and really invested in his story and stuff. Should it be a surprise that Bleach was the most worthless, shitty, worst chapter I read last week? The answer is no. In any case, maybe this fight will at least go by quickly. Oh, and some people are speculating cloak guy is going to turn out to be Aizen. I will not be surprised if that turns out to be true.

Boku no Hero Academia chapter 6 - Ah man, this is another great chapter. Midoriya can't use his power effectively yet, so he ranks last in all the activities, even though others had at least one they excelled at. So it all boils down to the ball toss, but the teacher sees through his inability and steals his quirk, telling flat out he can't expect people to come his aid again if he cripples himself like in his last attempt and if he can't learn to use his power efficiently and effectively he should give up being a hero. So the guy recognizes his effort, but doesn't have any expectations of him. But Midoriya thinks about this, and figures out a way he can use his full strength and still move, by concentrating it all at the last second into a single finger and flicking the ball like that, and because of that toss, he is able to avoid being last place, and shows he can use his power in a way that wont require other people to help him out if he gets hurt, and impresses his teacher as a result. A really, really well-done chapter, one of those kinds of chapters where you can't help but go "YES!" and really feel happy for the character accomplishing a goal like this. This continues to be a really enjoyable series and looking at the rankings it seems that it's made a great impression in Japan as well, and I'm really hoping it keeps up this momentum.

Detective Conan chapters 909-910 - So this case has a supernatural bent to it involving the japanese mythological creature the Katamanchi and it has Heiji involved. The first chapter was more amusing for me because Conan was basically trolling Heiji through the chapter and they were being all skeptical if this would be an interesting case and stuff, but I'm not really feeling this one otherwise. I kind of have a feeling who the culprit is too so it's just not that interesting a mystery, imo.

Fuuka chapter 38 - Ho man, this was a sad look at Yuu at his lowest point after Fuuka's death, wandering aimlessly, ditching school getting into fights, completely at a loss at what he should do. My favorite part is when Mikasa finds him laying in a gutter, beaten up, surrounding by trash, and just hugs him, crying about he doesn't know what he can do after having his best friend dead and his other best friend in so much pain. Just a strong, well-done emotional moments. Fuck them fair-whether fans, the mangaka is handling this right, imo, and I really want to see where's he's taking this story and what he does with it.

GTO: Paradise Lost chapter 15 - I guess seeing asshole idol boy having things seemingly crash down for him is sort of amusi-nah, I just can't bring myself to care. Such a forgettable and rote chapter, and there is just nothing I feel like mentioning about here. Let's move on.

The Heroic Legend of Arslan chapter 17 - So Narsus and Daryun are looking for information on the masked man...and they find him...and they fight...and Masked Man gloats about killing Daryun's father and that pisses him off so he slashes off his mask...and...he kind of looks like Daryun with a scar. Um...there were some amusing bits to this chapter...but this whole confrontation with the Masked guy seems too quick and I just don't care. Meh.

Magi chapter 245 - Hakuryu and Judar infiltrate and brainwash a base of soldiers in a totally not-villainous way. I just...can't get into this stuff with Hakuryu and Judar. The later is simply underdeveloped and the former is just taking a worryingly Sasuke-like approach to things, and while some of their political-ish maneuverings and strategizing is somewhat interesting, just something about the execution, and the somewhat messier art as of late (at least imo), is just sucking me out of the experience and making these chapters feel "off" to me. I honestly want to get away from these two at this point, and we've only spent 5 chapters just focused on them so far, so this isn't boding well, but maybe things will pick up soon.

Magi: Adventure of Sinbad chapters 39-40 - Uh, Sinbad and co. go to this country that doesn't do business with outsiders, they learn they can get an in if they make connections with the kingdom's knights, they meet the son of the head one and wow him with their stories of the outside world, and then at the end of the chapters the kid is like confronted with his father about being irresponsible or something and his little brother is apparently...I forget who, but Vlord tells me he becomes one of Sinbad's subordinates in the future so I guess he's important. Um, if you couldn't tell, I sort of found these chapters kind of dull and a little boring, but, uh, the end promises an interesting development and it should get more interesting going forward.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 12, 2014, 11:30:08 PM
Naruto chapters 699-700 - I already basically said my thoughts on this last week, so no need to go over all that again. But, one thing I just noticed, is that behind the mountain that has all the kage's faces on it in that last two page spread, if you look at the back, you can see what is a modern city, with skyscrapers and everything, in the background. So, apparently, Naruto exists in the modern world. I guess this sort of explains why they had movies in that first anime movie and stuff, but otherwise, nothing about that adds up to me. So all the ninja just obstained from using mechanical weapons and vehicles and stuff, because I'm assuming if there are fucking skyscrapers in this universe there should be automobiles and guns and stuff. I mean, that whole thing confuses me more than anything else. Also, I don't see many people noticing it. Even the WMR guys didn't notice it. I mean, I can't be the only one who's noticed that, right? Uh, anyway, who cares, fuck this series, blah, blah, blah. I still need to write my overall thoughts on the whole series proper, but man these recaps are long now and I'm tired, so I'll save that for another time.

One Piece chapter 766 - Oh man, Law really fucked up. Of all the people he could have gone to for help, it just happened he stumbled upon Vergo. Sad. And now Dolfamingo's arrived and has used his string cage thing so nobody can leave the island. Corazon basically knows he's gonna die but apparently he feels he can get Law to safely before he does, and until the bitter end he's going to make sure Law remembers him by showing him a smile. I personally love how his smile so awkward and painful, to the point it turns around and becomes almost amusing. Considering that Law's Heart Pirates' Jolly Roger is shown to have a very smiling face, I'm pretty sure that this is the reason, and it's interesting to see how much Corazon really influenced Law and how much of this Oda must have had an idea for when he came up with the concept for Law's character. I'm amusing that the next chapter will be the end for Corazon and then the chapter after that will be the wrap-up, but this has been a really great backstory doing everything a good OP backstory should - develop/give new understanding about certain characters, flesh out the world, and tie things together in an interesting way. Definitely some of the stronger chapters of this series as of late.

Peephole chapter 46 - Oh shit, looks like I was right and Kurosu is going to have to make his first kill if he's going to get out of this mess. Unless Miyachi somehow shows up suddenly, but I kind of doubt that. This is a pretty do or die situation so how this is gonna go down has me really curious, especially in terms of what this might mean for Kurosu's development as a character (lol, to think I would say that about a series like this  :D ).

The Seven Deadly Sins chapters 101-102 - Basically wrap-up chapters, some nice moments between certain characters here and there. The biggest developments are Merlin rejoining the team, Gowther and Guila becoming an item (for some reason), and the big one - Ban leaving the Sins. Presumably, because he doesn't want to deal with the temptation of trying to kill Meliodas to revive Elaine, but yeah, interesting development. Obviously, Ban won't be gone for long, if he goes at all. What I'm expecting is that the next arc of the series will be more focused on Ban, actually, and I definitely would be game for that. Will be interesting to see how things go from here.

Shokugeki no Soma chapter 93 - A transitional chapter, but one that definitely has me pumped up to see the clash between Soma, Akira, and Kurokiba, and the mackrel dish idea seems great. Since the ingredient is something that suits the strengths of all three, how they make variants of the dish, ones that they believe will totally top their competitors, is going to be curious to see. Much like the characters themselves, I'm pretty excited about the showdown, and really looking forward to it. 

Shonan Seven chapter 4 - I'm genuinely enjoying the direction the series is taking now. I'm actually interested in this four-way friendly rivalry and the fact glasses punk guy is being targeted by those asshole punk dudes. I mean, I'm still a ways from being at the point where I remember characters names and stuff, but I enjoyed reading the chapter at the very least, which, for a modern Tohru Fujisawa, is definitely a step up, so hopefully it keeps it up.

Toriko chapter 300 - I really wish the 300th chapter of Toriko would have been a fantastic one that I could praise and praise ...but...this...wasn't...very...good. It was, actually, insanely disappointing. They defeated Goritarus so easily, that I have to wonder, like Bambina herself, why I should care? And it seems so meaningless. They seemed to struggle against that gang of lower ranked monkey mooks before, but they beat an Instructor class warrior like he's nothing in a single chapter? Doesn't make any sense. Really, the characters are just too fucking strong now. It's the problem One Piece has had since the timeskip. In fact, this chapter made me think of how Toriko might be falling the way OP did after it's timeskip, since both had their most fucking amazing two years of their runs before it, but after it they both started to decline. I'm really disappointed about this, because starting this year off, things were looking bright for the series, and they continued to be until around the whole mess with the Heracles fight and everything after, where I've been feeling the series has been a bit "off" ever since, just like I have with OP after the Sabody Reunion arc. This chapter just makes me worried about the direction the series is taking now. Like RolloT in today's WMR, I also feel that Toriko's been "forgettable" as of late. Not that anything has been bad, necessarily, but that it's not been doing anything impactful and the pacing has just been so all over the place, and this chapter was just the last straw for me about that. Toriko was, by far, my favorite currently running manga in 2012 and 2013. Now, I wasn't reading that many manga before this year, but still, it was great those last two years, but this one has just not been up to par at all. I'm really hoping the series gets back on track, and doesn't end up like OP is now, or how most other battle shonen series seem to go after their timeskips, because that would be a damn shame.

Oh, but there was one notable thing I found interesting in the chapter. Sunny's hair apparently can absorb and spit out the essence of the things that it eats, and when Sunny is giving the explanation about that, we see a close up on his hair, and we see TOMMYROD'S ANGUISHED FACE IN IT. Holy shit. I thought he just died, but NOPE! Tommyrod has basically been suffering in pain in Sunny's hair without the relief of death. Fuck. Sunny... you are one cruel bastard. Who would have guessed.  :sweat:

World Trigger chapters 56-60 - LOOK WHAT GOT UPDATED! So yeah, looks like more WT scans are coming in. Last I checked they're at chapter 68 now. There's 82 chapters so far, so that means the gap should hopefully be closing soon if they keep it up. But, I'm only going to take into account the chapters I read last week. And...well, I enjoyed them. A lot of very interesting developments and good strategizing on the heroes' part. The main thing that keeps me from getting to into what's going on, though, is that a lot of the characters I still can't get into because there are so many of them and only a few are established. But, you know, there is a lot of neat action and some good character moments in these chapters and the development that Osamu might die if they don't change the direction of things adds even greater personal stakes to an already high-stakes affair. I'm sure I'll be able to get more into it as the arc goes on, the villains get more established/fleshed out and the focus narrows to the most important characters. The WMR guys promise this was a great arc for Osamu's character arc in particular, so I'm definitely looking forward to that, at the very least.

Rankings:

1. A Silent Voice - 10/10
2. A Bride's Story - 10/10
3. Fuuka - 10/10
4. Assassination Classroom - 10/10
5. Boku no Hero Academia - 10/10
6. Shokugeki no Soma - 8/10
7. One Piece - 8/10
8. World Trigger - 8/10
9. The Seven Deadly Sins - 8/10
10. Shonan Seven - 7.5/10
11. Peephole - 7.5/10
12. Detective Conan - 7/10
13. Magi: Adventure of Sinbad - 7/10
14. Magi - 7/10
15. Toriko - 7/10
16. Attack on Titan - 7/10
17. The Heroic Legend of Arslan - 6/10
18. Bakuon - 6/10
19. Naruto - 4/10
20. GTO: Paradise Lost - 1/10
21. Bleach - 1/10

Yeah, so, lots of just okay, mediocre, and bad stuff this week. But still, five 10/10 worthy chapters in a single week isn't a common occurrence, and those were some damn fine chapters I tell you what, so, I'm not too bothered by the meh stuff. But geez, some series just are not doing much for me recently. Though, at the same time, others are doing a heck of a lot, so it all balances out, I guess. Really, though, it's also going to hurt to lose Silent Voice next week, since it's pretty much been the best thing I've been reading every week since I started keeping up with it. Even though that's only been around four months, things just won't feel the same. Still, there's plenty to look forward to right now, so hopefully those series can just keep it up.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 13, 2014, 11:25:55 AM
 Jason Thompson tries to finish all of Naruto in 48 56 hours part 2! (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/house-of-1000-manga/2014-11-13/naruto-part-ii/.80991)

I haven't read it yet, but I love how he begins the article:

Quote"The situation is just like that of vomiting."
—Killer Bee

SPOILER: I couldn't do it. I couldn't read all 71 (I mean 72) volumes of Naruto in 48 hours. I dropped volumes, I blew past the deadline, I ended up a ravaged shell of my former self. The following is the tale of a man who read too much Naruto...

:lol:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 13, 2014, 12:43:04 PM
I love this particular bit from that write-up:

QuoteLike Naruto himself, Kishimoto is so serious and earnest about the morality of his world, if he was rewriting Dragon Ball he'd probably give Vegeta a long speech in the Cell Saga about how he feels bad about killing so many people and it was all because the Ginyu Force picked on him when he was younger.

His overall thoughts on the manga were actually more positive than negative, though. That is to say that he's not a big fan of it, but he doesn't view it as a bad manga, either. That said, I think the fact that he marathoned it so fast gave him little time to truly think about and critique what he was reading. He does acknowledge how much the Shinobi War arc drags on, but it had more problems than just being too long, and he disappointingly skips over making fun of many of the more questionable writing decisions towards the end.

Overall, though, it was entertaining to see someone attempt a feat like this, but personally I'd love to see someone who has read it properly manage to tear the manga to pieces by picking apart every big issue that plagued it during the later years of its run.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 15, 2014, 04:15:40 PM
So, I tried picking AoT back up now that I've taken a 1-year break from the manga to let some more material come out, and....I just can't get into it. I read chapter 51 and tried to get invested, but I just got bored out of my mind. I'm still planning on catching up to it again, but I really have nothing in this manga that I'm attached to or invested, and the fact that I'm actively trying to establish that in the first place is very telling of its quality, or lack thereof.

I think it's biggest problem is that it's so utterly devoid of any real personality. What I mean by that is that the characters are all pretty 1-note in their ambitions and mannerisms, and that leaves nothing there to distract you from the dips in quality when the story is moving along at snail's pace, and especially when you have instances of flat-out bad writing that you have to endure.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 15, 2014, 07:27:26 PM
In this week of manga, the Monkey King Bambina plays skipping stones with a mountain and Hakuryu somehow continues to break out of binding curses with the hax power of sheer hatred:

A Silent Voice chapter 61 - Such great character resolution here between Shoya and Ueno. First Shoya revealing that he's decided to stay at home and work to take over the family business. Then Ueno telling him that Shoko also wants to be a hairdresser. Tying things together with the beginning of the series with Shoya learning that it was Shimada and Hirose who rescued him, which segues way into Ueno finally apologizing to Shoya for turning on him and bullying him when they were kids, which leads into Ueno acknowledging her own self-hatred for her actions and her inability to like Shoko even after everything that's happened, which leads into Shoya acknowledging what happened to him that caused him to get estranged from his old friends was his fault, which leads into Shoya encouraging Ueno that because she recognizes her faults she has the ability to change herself...oh my god so perfect. Just perfect. And then everybody graduating, Shoya saying his farewells to Nishimiya...yeah everything was just fantastic here. So, so, so satisfying. I will be so sad when this series ends next week. At the same time, though, I'm looking forward to it, because after all of this, the conclusion is bound to be very, truly satisfying.

Assassination Classroom chapter 107 - Phenomenal chapter. I LOVED the insight into Erina's character we got here: her past, her upbringing, how she came to be how she is, why she thinks the way she does, and her regrets. And a strong moment between the students and Karasuma, encouraging him to forgive and rescue her because she missed out on her childhood and thus is still underdeveloped emotionally, and thus deserves another chance at life and to grow as a person. Karasuma's line to Erina at the end of the chapter, and the students outwitting and escaping the God of Death's trap...just excellent, excellent stuff. Man, Classroom has just been killing it lately! I've been loving this arc, and cannot wait to see how Class E escaped the God of Death's trap and how they will defeat him in the upcoming chapters.

Bleach chapter 605  - So we go from the best two chapters of the week to the worst. Sigh. Well, um, Bleach. God I barely remember what even happened in Bleach. Sigh, guess I'll have to re-read it. Nyuh...okay, I'm re-reading the chapter now. Mmm. Okay, so Kyoraku and Ukitake are talking about cryptic bullshit. Ukitake did something that's going to help, I guess. Kyoraku is going to the Central 46 for some reason. Okay, prediction: he's gonna ask them to bail Aizen out of jail so he can help them take out the Sternritters. Calling Aizen being involved with this somehow. Because really...when has Aizen not been involved with something the Central 46 did? Seriously. Hmm, I sorta like this effect Kubo did on this page I'm on where he made the black space look like it was ink from Ichibei's brush. That's kind of a less bullshitty way to waste ink than how he normally does it. So Ichi...you know what, fuck it, I'm not going to bother remembering his name. I'm just gonna call him beard guy from now on. So beard guy fights with giant spirit hands or something. Somehow it takes away Ywach's voice...because. Well, at least Ywach is actually showing some sort of surprise/struggle fighting this guy. Aizen beat everyone with just a smug smirk on his face. This at least sort of makes Ywach look like he has weaknesses, which sort of makes him less boring. In theory, at least. Um, so, Ywach uses his arrows to rebound from the smack down he was given, and I guess this means shit's got real or whatever. So...uh, yeah, this was a chapter. Stuff sure did happen. I'm soooo looking forward to the continued battle between these beard guys. Truly, I am. ...Are we done here? Please, let's talk about something good...

Boku no Hero Academia chapters 7-8 - Yeah, now here's what I'm talking about! This series continues to be incredibly entertaining and refreshing in execution. I love how they are immediately addressing the tension between Midoriya and Bakugou, with Midoriya already having the confidence to say to him "look, I'm just as worthy of being a hero as you are. No matter how much you put me down or insult me won't change that. I am not going to give up," and doesn't shy away from engaging him in a fight during the training exercise when Bakugou attacks him. I also love how they subverted the cliche that Midoriya's costume would be lame, instead showing the weight, reasoning, and logic behind his choice and having people acknowledge and like his costume's design with no one belittling it or putting it down like what might happen for some tepid comic relief scene in lesser manga. Overall, the characterization, development, and plotting of this series continues to be strong and makes me eagerly anticipate the next chapter(s). Wow, I must say, this series has had one of the strongest starts of any battle-oriented shonen manga I've ever read! I'm very impressed, and hope it continues to impress going forward.

Fuuka chapter 39 - While it seems odd to me that Fuuka's parents wouldn't clean the blood stains from Fuuka's headset, the development for Yuu in this chapter as he has to confront the reality that Fuuka is dead and gone now and that he misses her, FINALLY crying for her, was very, very potent and well done.  The end of the chapter, with the original owner of Yuu's bass coming back, is an interesting development, and is sure to push this series into a very promising new phase.

Hinomaru Zumou chapter 7 - I love the practicality of Hinomaru's advice, and how he was able to pick up on what Ushio and Yuuma's missteps were and tell them how to focus on their strengths in order to win their matches. This lead to some great moments for their characters as well as confidence builders, and allowed their team to be respected and recognized by the others as a force to be taken seriously. Very good progression of the story here and the final scene with Hinomaru and Munechika's tense conversation with each other makes me eager to see if they really will be able to face each other in the finals after all. After a few "meh" chapters, this series seems back to showing it's promising potential and I hope it continues to successfully establish a good foundation for it's story as this first arc continues.

Magi chapter 246 - I would probably be more into what's been happening if Hakuryuu wasn't so...well, angry about everything and somewhat cartoonishly villainous in his personality. The actual strategies he and Judar are employing are interesting in of themselves, but the fact that the characters employing them feel so shallow now really takes away my ability to get invested in them. Not to mention that the whole scene where Kouen's trap is activated and attempts to force Hakuryuu to give up on his hatred, except Hakuryuu is able to break out of it's control because "OMG HIS HATRED IS SO GREAT IT CANNOT BE ERASED" or some shit like that also happened like literally TWO CHAPTERS AGO and seems completely redundant and pointless as a result. The end of the chapter has Gyokuen smirking, making me think that what's happening is to her favor and works towards her grand design, somehow. I wonder if her goal is akin to Medusa's from Soul Eater in terms of using her child as a vessel to carry out her ultimate goals, and like Medusa, she would actually be willing to sacrifice her life and die for the sake of that. In this case, Gyokuen would allow Hakuryu to kill her, and somehow, this would trigger him completely falling into depravity, and fulfilling her goals in her place. It would be an interesting route for the series to go, but if it causes Hakuryu to devolve into a more one-dimensional character, I wouldn't be for it at all. Depravity doesn't quite work the same way Madness did in Soul Eater, in any case, so a turn like that might not work out quite as well as it did there. In any case, the next few chapters seem like they'll be building towards the confrontation between Hakuryuu and Gyokuen. Part of me feels that might be too quick, but at the same time I feel I'll find that more interesting than this build up to it, so by all means, I'd take it.

Magi: Adventure of Sinbad chapter 41 - I enjoyed Mistoras' motivations as well as the fact that he can walk the walk and is prepared to risk his life in order to gain the freedom he wants. I also like how this throws a wrench in Sinbad's plans, since the connection he's made would become useless to him regardless of the outcome of Mistoras' duel with his father. Very curious into how he'll be able to turn this situation around to his favor. I also enjoyed the reappearance of Yunan in this chapter, which sparked an interesting conversation that hints at Sinbad's ambitions, and his lack of fear to engage in conflict in order to win his goals. Some good stuff here, and ones that leave me much more favorable on these developments than I am on it's mother series.

One Piece chapter 767 - One curious thing to note on the very front page of this chapter is that the indication seems to be that Trebol was the one who gave Doflamingo his powers and told him about Haki, and it was around this time that he met Vergo, who quickly became his subordinate. I really do love how that front page ties into developing Corazon's motivations and highlighting his own death in this chapter. Corazon in general had a lot of great lines and moments here. In particular, I loved how he communicated so much of his final words in a way that seemed like it was addressing Doflamingo, but were really meant to be heard by by Law, and serves as both apologies, encouragement, and parting words to him, all at once. In general that scene between Doflamingo and Corazon was just a very, very well written sequence. Oh, the heck with it, this chapter was very well written overall with a lot of great moments. I personally love the timing of Corazon's death, where he passed away just as the marine battle ship fired it's canon, which drowned out Law's cry of grief. Very good moment there. Overall I was very impressed with this flashback and it has probably been the best stretch of chapters One Piece has had all year. I'm actually disappointed it's over and we have to get back to the main story now. Still, really great stuff that really did wonders for fleshing out Law and Dolfamingo's characters. I hope that the developments and connections we saw here will tie into the resolution of the current conflict in a meaningful way, and perhaps close the arc off on a high note, which could do well to mitigate some of it's failings.

Peephole chapter 47 - Well, it's good to see Kurosu show some balls...much good it's doing him. Kinda odd that the police woman has shown up so quickly like this. How did she find them? For that matter, does her appearance mean Kurosu won't make his first kill after all? Hmm...a lot to speculate about this development. It could be that she'll be put in danger and Kurosu makes a kill in order to save her life, which would somewhat absolve him of blame because it would technically be a form of self-protection and doing it for the sake of saving a police officer's life would cut him some legal slack.  Dunno if the story will take that route, but could be an interesting turn if it does happen. Also, the appearance of the body collectors makes me wonder if that crazy transvestite artist we saw back 30 chapters ago will be making his/her reappearance sometime soon. That was a humorous character, so it might be nice to re-add him/her back into the story.

The Seven Deadly Sins chapter 103 - Mainly another wind-down chapter, most of the focus being on introducing the gang's new outfits and such. The end of the chapter is what promises a new transition in the story, and is just an excellent conversation between Ban and King. With the Fairy King's Forest destroyed, how, exactly, does Ban plan to go there? And what do they mean that the next chapter will see "the return of the Fairy King?" Very interesting questions that seem to put this arc off to a promising start, and certainly, the fact that it promises to focus on Ban and King, my two favorite characters in this series, is definitely something that makes me look forward to it even more.

Shokugeki no Soma chapter 94 - The difference between Soma and Kurokiba's familiarity and ability to pick out high quality ingredients, especially when it comes to seafood, was explored here and does a great job of putting Soma in the underdog position while thoroughly entertaining with some good tension and tips on how to distinguish the quality of fresh fish. It seems that Soma is actually, gasp, worried about his chances, which has never happened before, at least in the sense it's presented here. Of course, knowing Soma, he is sure to find a way to take advantage of his own skills and work hard to prepare for the final match between the three of them, and I'm curious to see what his plan for doing that will be.

Silver Spoon chapter 107 - Friggen' hilarious chapter. Wow. I was dying of laughter pretty much all the way through. What was the best part? Ah, can't decided. It's gotta either be the whole part where everyone's like "oh no, they discovered it's the glasses!" and Hachiken's despairs losing his only real advantage to riding that horse, or the Equestrian Club's motto and the first year's being freaked out that their class has to do it too when their time comes. And on a character level, I love Hachiken's recognition of why he joined the equestrian club in the first place and what it means to him, and his attempt to do his best in order to help his team, acknowledging his weaknesses as a rider but carefully planned in order to give his team the support they need to have a good score overall. Really, really great chapter here and one that reinforces just how much I really love this series.

Space Brothers chapter 239 - Really great chapter with all of Mutta's friends congratulating him and wishing him luck as he finally goes to head out into space at long last, with the reappearance of several old and familiar faces that were really satisfying to see again in the way they did. Next chapter should be truly excellent, as finally, at long last, Mutta will be going to the moon.

Toriko chapter 301 - Half the chapter is spent showing Bambina take a giant mountain and throw it across the globe, and showing it come back around as nothing but a pebble. There is some plot development in a very tense conversation with Kaka, hinting she might not have the most benevolent of motives after all, which Coco seems to pick up on, and the end of chapter with them arriving at that tree. I really feel the pacing of Toriko has just been really wonky lately, which makes it hard to grab onto what's happening in this current arc. Still, while the stuff with Bambina seemed pointless and time-wasting, the development with Kaka is genuinely intriguing, and might turn into an interesting development in the story, particularly if it turns out she's affiliated with NEO or the Bishokukai, or even just has her own ambitions. So there are some promising things to take from the chapter, but overall, I just felt it was rather weak, especially in comparison to the bulk of chapters other series had this week.

Watamote chapter 68 - Hmm, how to talk about a chapter of WataMote. There were many different bits in here, few of them connected, so there's no real "story" to comment on. I guess my favorite parts here, though, were Tomoko feeling uncomfortable when her classmates start talking about an anime she knows and hearing an anime theme play over the morning announcements, her confusion at the fact the manga series she's reading is on hiatus ("The author has back pain!?!"), her getting excited to go the public baths but ten three hours later feeling too tired and lazy to bother, and, possibly the best part, when Tomoko manages to name her character in a game "cockz" and proudly texts her brother about it and waits for a reply. Some very good segments in this chapter, and honestly, there hasn't been a WataMote chapter that focuses on short vignettes like this in quite a while, so it was a very enjoyable change of pace.

World Trigger chapters 61-73 - Wow, lots of chapters updated this week, and there was some strong story progression in them, showing the Border agents employ interesting strategy and tactics to outwit and defeat these stronger humanoid Neighbors, and even succeeding in killing a black trigger user. Osamu got a very great scene where he protected Chika's trion cube and escaped from Haidren, who himself is a promising antagonist. The old guy and hothead young Neighbor who is interestingly refereed to "lord" also had some good moments and the fight between them and Jin and Yuuma is very interesting, though we only saw the beginnings of it. Jin's statement about the "lord" being abandoned by his allies is also something very curious, and I wonder how that will come into play later on in this arc. Overall, some very enjoyable developments in these chapters, that makes me curious to see how the rest of this arc plays out and how it concludes. And with these many updates, I'd hope that we'll be fully get caught up with the backlog of this series by the end of next week as well.

Rankings:

1. A Silent Voice - 10/10
2. Silver Spoon - 10/10
3. Assassination Classroom - 10/10
4. Fuuka - 9.5/10
5. World Trigger - 9/10
6. Boku no Hero Academia - 9/10
7. One Piece - 9/10
8. Hinomaru Zumo - 9/10
9. Space Brothers - 8.5/10
10. Shokugeki no Soma - 8.5/10
11. WataMote - 8/10
12. Magi: Adventure of Sinbad - 8/10
13. The Seven Deadly Sins - 8/10
14. Peephole - 8/10
15. Magi - 7.5/10
16. Toriko - 7/10
17. Bleach - 1/10

Overall, a very strong, very satisfying week of chapters. Many of these chapters really make me look forward to the ones coming next week, and since that will be a week including the conclusion of A Silent Voice, it just might prove to be another winner.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 15, 2014, 08:10:44 PM
You know, at this point, I'd just settle for Hakuryuu pulling a John Wick or Taken and just getting into grudge fights with people who have royally pissed him off, and raise hell on Al Thamen. Would it make for good writing? No, it would be shallow as hell. Would it be more entertaining than an arc about him basically becoming Sasuke,  which is what we're currently getting? Hell yes.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 15, 2014, 09:39:13 PM
Yup, a Rin-ne anime has been confirmed and is coming next spring. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-11-15/rumiko-takahashi-rin-ne-manga-gets-tv-anime-next-spring/.81078) Not surprised, and it's about time. I wonder how long they plan to make it? I think using a two-cours model is preferable than making it a long-runner. The bigger question, though, is who'll be doing it? What I would really love is for it to go to a good team and studio that really fleshes out and expands on it's strengths as a comedy and does a good job exploiting the solid characters and their interactions, like the Ranma anime did at times. A straight adaption would just be kind of boring, especially because the source material is only somewhat amusing at best as it is. I really think making it a more wacky slapstick comedy akin to Ranma, or even better, Urusei Yatsura, would make it more entertaining to watch. In any case, I'll keep tabs on it. It's a Rumiko Takahashi series, after all. Even though Rin-ne is easily my least favorite work of hers, there's still a fair bit of enjoyment I get from it, and I do think a good anime adaption could prove to be a very fun watch if done right.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 16, 2014, 01:00:42 AM
I've also been keeping up with My Hero Academy for the past couple of weeks. I didn't mention anything about it because I wanted to read enough chapters to formulate a solid opinion on it first. I think it's safe to say that it's a good manga, now, or at least so far. I like how it seems to pay tribute to American style superheroes, both mocking and celebrating them, while also making for a great comedy that you could only see done in Japan, and specifically in manga form. I couldn't invision an anime capturing the raw, hyper energy of this manga, just like how Dr. Slump works far better as a manga than as an anime.

If I had just one gripe so far, and it's a minor one at that, it's how wildly inconsistent the character designs are, so far. That said, it's really early on in the manga, so that's to be expected since the artist is still experimenting with designs for the characters, but I swear that he can never keep the main character at a specific and consistent height. In some panels he's a total shrimp, and in others it's like he grew twice his original height. Even for a comedy manga such as this one, it's really jarring to make such a transition.

Overall, though, it's the best currently running comedy manga that I've come across so far.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 16, 2014, 01:16:52 AM
I don't think Boku no Hero Academia/My Hero Academy is meant to purely be a comedy series. At least, not any more than, say, One Piece is meant to be. I'd consider it an action-comedy, as of now, with leanings towards becoming a more serious story as it goes forward. The core story seems very character driven and has been emphasizing the emotional growth of Midoriya, so far. With the set-up and the way things are structured I'm pretty sure it's meant to become a more serious manga in the future. In a sense, I would compare it to One-Punch Man (another manga about superheroes, though seinin), which is a series where many events and actions are played for comedy, but as it continued forward showed more signs of developing a more character focused, and somewhat serious story. In fact, I also find it comparable to Assassination Classroom as well, which started out like it would be a sort of episodic comedy, but as it continued developed an overarching story with many serious elements and interesting character development. These series never dropped the comedy element of them, of course, but at the same time they are no longer defined simply by those elements. What the direction this series will go, of course, remains to be seen, but right now I feel it will lean towards being an action series as it goes on, especially considering the mangaka's previous work, Barrage, was similar in tone, and though short lived, showed to evolve as such during in it's short run.

As far as my favorite currently running "comedy" manga goes, mine is easily Princess Jellyfish, which is my favorite currently running manga period, followed by Silver Spoon.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 16, 2014, 01:49:31 AM
Quote from: Cartoon X on November 16, 2014, 01:16:52 AMI don't think Boku no Hero Academia/My Hero Academy is meant to purely be a comedy series. At least, not any more than, say, One Piece is meant to be. I'd consider it an action-comedy, as of now, with leanings towards becoming a more serious story as it goes forward.

You spent a whole lot of energy writing all of that when you could've just left it at this.

And yes, I'm not an idiot, it's a battle manga waiting to happen, but I'm primarily reflecting on the first 8 chapters, which are undeniably more focused on comedy than serious genuine moments, of which there have been plenty, but even many of those are presented in a comedic, over the top tone so far.

But seriously, do I really need to put a disclaimer at the end of every post addressing how it's "not exactly" fitting the exact wording that I'm using to describe it and that I'm aware of that to avoid getting the "well actually" responses from you for every other post that I make? Because you have a habit of doing this pretty much all of the time. :humhumhum:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 16, 2014, 03:01:58 PM
Rin-ne confirmed to be a 2-cours, 25 episode anime! (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2014-11-16/25-episode-rin-ne-anime-brains-base-staff-visual-unveiled/.81091) Brain's Base is doing it! Great! They're really suited to the kind of sweet but also wacky comedy series like Rin-ne are, and the animation should be really solid! What's even better, Michiko Yokote will be in charge of the scripts. She has had experience working on Rumiko Takahashi anime adaptions before with Ranma 1/2, and wrote the script for Urusei Yatsura OVA 12 - "The Obstacle Course Swim Race," my FAVORITE episode of the Urusei Yatsura anime!  :swoon: Wow, this is actually sounding like it could be really, really enjoyable adaption! Especially if they play up the wackiness like was done in Ranma and that aforementioned UY OVA. Yeah, so I'm actually rather excited for this now, and I'm looking forward to it. I think this really could have the potential to be a really great show, especially if they can remove some of the weaker bits of the original manga and replace it with more of the good-old fashioned Takahashi-style craziness.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 16, 2014, 07:54:28 PM
New promo for the Shokugeki no Soma anime! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ae31R4z-UAM)

Dang, I must say, they've done a fine job making that food look as sexy delicious as it does in the manga. The aesthetics of the show, as well as the bits of animation shown here, is in general pretty great looking. The seiyuu doing Soma also sounds fine in the role, from what was heard here. This definitely is looking like it'll turn out to be a really good adaption, at least from a production standpoint. I'm hoping we see another trailer with more animation and featuring some of the other characters sometime soon.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 16, 2014, 10:39:39 PM
A Silent Voice is getting an anime. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-11-16/a-silent-voice-manga-has-anime-in-the-works/.81109)

Yes.

YES.

A thousand times, YES! It certainly deserves one, and to be seen by a wider variety of people. I think it speaks volumes that this manga, which is only a little over 60 chapters long and just finishing this week, and had been in serialization only for a little over a year, and was never one of the most popular series in the magazine it ran in (in Japan, at least), still has had the popularity and support in order to get an anime version of it made. I'm so happy for it. It's an incredible manga, and in the right hands, I'm sure it will be an equally incredible anime.

So, I now I've got Stardust Crusaders season 2, Durarara!!x2, the Fate/Stay Night: Heaven's Feel movie, Soma, Lupin blue jacket, Rin-ne, AND A Silent Voice to look forward to next year? I gotta say, 2015 is looking like it's going to be a great year of anime.  ;D

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 18, 2014, 11:43:32 PM
I read the final chapter of A Silent Voice.

I almost cried.

Beautiful ending. Amazing manga. The best I've ever kept up with. One of the best I've ever read period. I'm going to miss it. I'm going to miss it so, so much.

I really hope the mangaka comes out with a new work of equal quality, if not greater (if that's even possible), soon. She's a fantastic storyteller, and god knows I want more of what she's got to tell.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 19, 2014, 01:23:52 AM
I also enjoyed it. Best manga I've read all year.

(And in case you're wondering, I caught up to it over the past 2 weeks).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 19, 2014, 08:49:56 AM
I'm glad to see you enjoyed it.  :)

On the subject, it looks like the mangaka, Oima, while haven't decided anything definite yet, wants her next work to be a sci-fi fantasy. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-11-18/a-silent-voice-author-oima-wants-to-draw-sci-fi-fantasy/.81177) While I have would loved to see another "slice-of-life" from her, I'm all for it. It'll be interesting to see her apply the skills she's demonstrated in ASV to a whole different genre, and it could turn out fantastic. I'm definitely keeping an eye and ear out for whenever her next work begins serialization (hopefully it's soon!).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 19, 2014, 08:56:05 AM
In less exciting (aka not at all exciting) news, Kishimoto says he'll begin his next non-Naruto work after next summer. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-11-19/masashi-kishimoto-to-start-work-on-next-title-after-naruto-after-next-summer/.81192) I mean, at least he isn't going to beat his hit series into the ground like certain other mangaka (cough, Konomi, cough), but yeah, after the shit that was the last few years of Naruto, I don't have any expectations for it either. I will probably check it out for the sake of it, though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 19, 2014, 09:05:20 AM
Oh what the?...Kodansha has delayed the release of Vinland Saga volume 6. (http://www.rightstuf.com/cgi-bin/catalogmgr/wpqiqJhhsDLa7MtPAY/browse/item/103273/4/0/0) Before they had it listed to come out on January 6th, but now the date is TBD.

Ack, that sucks. Not that I don't understand. Their releases have basically combined two of the japanese volumes into one, and there are only 14 volumes of VS so far, so after the next two books they won't have anything to release for a long time. I hope they don't delay this back too far, though. Still, this is not nearly as ridiculous to me as Dark Horse delaying the release of the Astro Boy omnibuses and briefly listing a release date of 2027 for some reason. I swear to god they better figure that shit out early next year... :srs:.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 19, 2014, 12:28:58 PM
Honestly, Oima could do a battle Shonen for all I care, and she'd still probably be able to make it so character-driven and nuanced that it manages to deconstruct the genre and put most other modern series in the genre to shame. My point being that, I think she just has the talent to write well in the first place, so whatever genre she does, I'm sure that she can pull it off extremely well.

As for A Silent Voice, I really do like how this manga never took the easy way out of any situation. It could've easily turned into a generic and uninspired PSA, but much like another excellent slice of life manga, REAL, it's just so much smarter than that. Probably best of all is that it doesn't portray any single character as 1-dimensional. Just because someone is a bully doesn't mean that they are pure evil. It's also very realistic and never over the top with how it portrays the bullying. I can say that with certainty as a former victim of bullying, myself. That said, this manga really is about more than just that, and as a general coming of age story, it's among the best that I've seen.

This is also one of the very few manga that I'd have to struggle to find anything wrong with. I'm not saying that it's perfect, because to me there is no such thing, but I would REALLY have to go out of my way to try and find something wrong with it or that I don't like about it.

On a much more minor note, there is one little touch toward the end of the manga that I really appreciate. It's at the film festival where they get judged super harshly. First of all, whether intentional or not, I'll admit to laughing at that scene at how absurdly over the top the judge went in terms of insulting everyone involved with the film, and then how everyone was angry about it but also came to the conclusion that, in the end....yeah, it did kind of suck for how cheaply and quickly slapped together it was. That just really got a chuckle out of me. But more than that, it would've been so easy to have them make it far in the film contest as just a way to lighten up the mood toward the end of the manga. However, I hate it when series portray some other field as not that big of a deal and show someone excelling at it when they weren't even serious enough about it to begin with. This scene showed how harsh that field is, but still managed to lighten up the mood for me with how comical all of the character reactions were to it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 20, 2014, 06:06:40 PM
So, Weekly Manga Recap did their Naruto retrospective, (http://blip.tv/hilarios-productions/weekly-manga-recap-naruto-retrospective-7111241) talking about what they thought worked about their series and what didn't, and I found a lot of the points they made to be very valid, especially when it comes to what brought the series down over time (i.e. the overt focus on the rivalry between Naruto and Sasuke, not making use of secondary characters well, undermining the teamwork dynamic established at the beginning of the series, brushing off the idea of a harsh reality to the ninja world previously set up, not following through on set-up character arcs or plot threads, etc.). It's really a good listen from people who have been keeping up with the series for a long time and talking about it for their podcast weekly over the past 4 years. If you are looking for them to completely tear into and bash every single thing wrong with it, you'll be disappointed, because they take a more unbiased, "objective" approach to evaluating it, but all the same these guys have never hold back how much they hate certain parts of this series or harshly criticizing it's flaws before or now either. The conclusion they reach is basically that Naruto is a really frustrating read overall, but it's not necessarily a bad manga. They think the first part, the pre-timeskip part, is solid enough to check out that they would recommend it to someone who had never read the series before, but beyond that, they would leave it up to people's discretion because it's all downhill from there. Which, I feel is a fair stance to take on the series as a whole.

As for myself, I've always been someone who's opinion on a series is affected by how it stacks up overall, with a lot of emphasis on it's later parts and ending if it's a story-driven series. When a series has a really bad ending or final stretch it can really break a series for me and sour my impression on the parts I used to enjoy about it. I've mentioned how I just can't say I like KnB because of how utterly frustrating and disappointing the second half of it was. And to use a non-anime/manga example, even a show I really used to love, How I Met Your Mother, was really destroyed in mind after that finale, and while unlike other stuff I've mentioned here so much of that series entertained me that I just can't ignore how much I enjoyed it before, all the same, I cannot rekindle the same passion for it I once had either at all. As such, with something like Naruto, where so much of the series in it's second half was really terrible to me, though not necessarily to the point where I got infuriated like with Bleach, Fairy Tail, and even parts of KnB, but all the same really bad parts and moments, I just can't even look at the good parts about it and say I'm very fond of them at all. But, I have decided that doesn't mean there is necessarily nothing to offer anyone in the series, at least for someone just getting into manga. Last week I had this whole debate with E-K about whether KnB is worth somebody's time or not, and thinking on it, I think I was wrong in my position. I still don't think of it as a "good" manga, by any means, but if someone did want to read it, there is really no harm in checking it out and seeing if it appeals to you. It's never offensive at any point, at the very least. And so, while I'd definitely call it a worse manga overall, Naruto is the same way. You might as well read part of it and see if you like it or not. In any case, you might as well have an opinion on it, since it's one of the most popular and influential anime/manga series ever now. So, I actually do agree with the WMR guys' stance on recommending it, because it's basically a "might as well/no harm done" kind of thing.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 20, 2014, 06:06:54 PM
In any case, the WMR guys' retrospective reminded me I was planning to do one myself earlier, recounting how I got into the series, why I liked it, and how my opinions on it changed over the years, but then totally forgot about it. Even though it's been two weeks since the ending, I guess it's better late than never to do one now. I'll see how much I feel like writing about it in a very loose stream of consciousness sort of way, at the very least.

Well, so, where to start? I guess at the beginning of when I even became aware of Naruto's existence. I remember Cartoon Network was doing this summer preview special they aired at certain points on Memorial day in 2005. They highlighted all the shows, movies, etc. that would premiere on the network later that summer and early in the fall. There were segments focusing on certain blocks. Fridays had one, Miguzi had one, and of course, Toonami had one.

I had only gotten into anime - well, not even anime. I still didn't even know the term, much less distinguish between them and other animated series. I was more getting open into watching more action series. I have mentioned this time and again before but when I was a kid I was thoroughly uninterested in action series, but had a few exceptions over the years, and when I finally got into Dragon Ball through the final episodes of GT earlier in 2005 I became obsessed with that series and everything related to it. This got me to actually pay attention to Toonami, which I never cared about before beyond watching reruns of Batman Beyond, Hamtaro, and The Powerpuff Girls and then later Megas XLR, Samurai Jack, and Teen Titans (as you can see, there were some exceptions to my anti-action series bias). Getting into Toonami exposed me to other series that piqued my curiosity and I felt like trying out to see if I could find anything else as appealing to me as Dragon Ball. Yu Yu Hakusho left before I really could watch more than the last half of one episode (it was the fourth episode, fyi), but it was replaced by Zatch Bell! which I immediately became a fan of because of it's balancing of comedic and serious moments and the strong dynamic between it's too leads. One Piece replaced GT in May and I was skeptical of it but after watching the first two episodes I enjoyed them, and checked them out for a few weeks later before I sort of just fell out of it for a while until the fall. But in any case, through Toonami, I was finding action series that challenged my preconceptions of what action series were; not just stories about superheroes and the like but also could be very diverse adventure stories with lots of comedy, which appealed to me.

So by the time May came around I was already watching most of the block week to week. Hence, when I saw the Toonami segment of the promo, I was really excited, because they were hyping up new shows coming to the block that seemed really interesting to me and stuff that appealed to my sensibilities. One of these, and the one I was most excited for, was Bobobo. I saw the clips, heard the description, and I was sold instantly. It was going to be an irreverent and bizarre parody of action shows (now I recognize it was parodying battle-shonen specifically, but again, didn't know any of these distinctions back then), and I was going to love it. And then the second of the new shows that had me interested was Naruto. Mainly because it was about ninjas, and that seemed like it could be interesting, because the only show I had seen about ninjas before was TMNT 2003, which I didn't personally care for at the time, but this series seemed like it was going to take a more serious approach to things. That said, unlike Bobobo where I was dying waiting to hear about when it would premiere, I kind of forgot about Naruto until, like, the week before it was going to premiere, and I saw the promo and was like "oh yeah, THAT" and then immediately after was like "but where's BOBOBO dang it?!?"

Still, I was definitely really interested in checking it out. I hadn't really expanded my horizons, so to say, since may so the only non-superhero action cartoons I was watching were DBZ reruns (and loads and loads of videos and manga volumes I repeatedly checked out from libraries), Zatch, and OP, and I wasn't even paying attention to the latter much yet, so this was definitely something I thought would be well worth seeing. As it turned out, though, there was a neighborhood potluck that weekend, and though we didn't go, I was still tasked with bringing something to it and so I had to rush and do that, and stay at the party for a certain period of time until people were done with the dish (I think we contributed a potato salad, not quite 100% on that though). So, I actually didn't get a chance to watch the very first episode when it premiered. I did, however, catch the second. I remember sitting on the bed in the guest room, eating slices of a Costco-bought frozen pizza, watching that episode and enjoying it quite a bit. I liked Naruto's spunk and in that particular episode I liked Konahamaru's story and how Naruto helped him out. At that time, Naruto seemed like a very likable but rebellious character, which contrasted with the carefree attitudes of the main characters in the anime I had been watching up until that point, Goku, Zatch, and Luffy, and so seemed a bit refreshing as a result. So I had a good first impression of the series from the onset. I was like "this was a good show!" and "I'm going to enjoy this!" Ah ha ha, how little I knew of what was to come, but that would still be a few years down the line.

I watched the next episode the week after, liked it and the dynamics between the characters established. I didn't find the toilet humor very appealing but it was nice seeing a main character who could be poked fun of, since I hadn't seen that before, but still be sympathetic. I didn't know what to think of the other characters yet, but they seemed interesting. Sasuke seemed most so because of the fact he seemed to recognize that though Naruto was a goofball he had suffered through a lot of hardships and did not write him off or disrespect his efforts to become recognized or make friends, and there was hint to more depth to his character. Sakura struck me as someone who might grow to care about and respect Naruto over time, but I always really disliked her obsession with Sasuke in early episodes, and how she just seemed to be a token female character with no real ambition or purpose. I would sort of change my mind on her in the spring, but in the long run and looking back on things, yeah, I don't think she ever evolved out of that. In fact, neither Sasuke or Sakura ever became very good characters or really matured in any significant, meaningful way. We give Naruto a lot of flack for being kind of annoying, and while the series never had him evolve out of his idealism, he's certainly wasn't an idiot or impulsive after the timeskip like he was at the beginning of the series. He actually did mature in the way he carried himself if not his ideology, and while I don't like the character I do respect that aspect of his growth. I cannot say the same for Sasuke and Sakura. For every step forward their character development took, they always seemed to take yet another step back as well.

But I'm getting ahead of myself. Let's keep it linear here! Okay, now, I didn't actually watch the following two episodes featuring Kakashi's introduction. My family went to a lot of parties with friends on weekends back in those days, so I did usually miss out on Toonami a lot of weeks, though I tried recording stuff most of the time, though I didn't always watch them. I did see those episode a bit later. Cartoon Network had already started rerunning the series pretty early into it's run, two episodes around noon on Sundays, so those episodes reran in...I want to say January, so I saw them then. Kakashi seemed interesting; though seemingly aloof and nonchalant about things he was a character who has personally experienced a lot of hardships and seen many of his friends die, and his lesson was to teach Team 7 that they were a team and they need to be committed to each other, but also that there is a harsh reality to the ninja world, and they will have to face tough decisions, and they will see friends die. Now, this ended up being bullshit as it turned out, but like RolloT said in the WMR podcast, this harsh tone was interesting and really characterized early Naruto. Sure, the characters wore bright colored attire and there was a lot of humor, but many aspects, such as how Zabuza became a ninja, by having to kill all of his fellow students when he was just a child in a death match, and how his experiences ended up effecting the way he operated, Haku's cruel backstory as a victim of prejudice and his own father turning on him and killing his mother and trying to kill him out of fear for his abilities, Gaara's similar backstory about how he was ostracized like Naruto as a child for being Shukaku's jinchuriki and how his father eventually tried to have him killed by the hands of his own uncle who up until that point was the only other person who loved him, but then revealed he always held a grudge against him for being responsible for the death of his sister this whole time and how that turned him into a cold, bitter, violent person, you know, all of that really reinforced that the way of the ninja was harsh and cruel, and this world was harsh and cruel, and the characters would have to fight against a lot of prejudice, hardships, and see much death and bloodshed as they matured into capable adult shinobi. Obviously, that didn't last after the timeskip, but that element of the series was really appealing to it early on.

In any case, though, I think I watched the first few episodes of the Zabuza arc but then fell out of the series sometime late October/November, at least after the first fight they had with him and the introduction of Haku. I caught the New Years Eve marathon later, though, so I saw the episode where Naruto let the nine-tails' power influence him and defeat Haku, and then Haku's sacrifice to allow Zabuza to try and get a fatal blow on Kakashi. Overall, though, I missed most of the arc in the first airing and am pretty sure I only saw all of it when the series started airing weekdays at 9pm later that summer. I believe it was that summer, at least. I remember eating char-grilled fried shrimp, fries, and rice while watching the episode with Haku's backstory and I'm sure that was the summer where we had that "phase" where we rotated home-made fried food into our dinner rotations. Not necessarily relevant, but those are fond memories, you know. I also remember my mom watching the first episode of the series with us when they first started airing it on weekdays at the 9pm timeslot and saying "hey, that was pretty good" and then she watched episodes of it with us a few times after that. My parents don't like cartoons much, my mom in particular only liked Looney Tunes, but she liked Naruto and that was the only anime my mom ever liked and in general one of the only cartoons I watched as a kid that she liked at all period, next to only Justice League and The Simpsons Movie  (and the movie ONLY), I believe. Odd.

I keep digressing, it seems. Okay, to get back on track, in February came the Chunin Exams. I was up on it from the get-go and this was the point where I started to watch every Naruto episode week after week and try not to miss a single episode. I think this is where the series started to pick up for me, largely because of the set-up. I liked the new characters and the emphasis that Team 7 would need to work as a team in order to succeed here, as well as the fact that their rivals are by and large more skilled and resourceful than they were, and that they were at a disadvantage because they were still a young team, compared to others, which had already been in training for more than a year. I also liked the first round, the written test, and how it was a matter of strategy, trying to weed information out from rivals who did have the answers, and was a test for cunning, resourcefulness, and dedication. The Forest of Death basically tested your survival skills, and if you died, you died. That's the harsh reality of being a ninja and you just had to deal with that. In that portion of the series Orochimaru was introduced and Kabuto was expanded upon as an important character, his connection with Orochimaru highlighting him as an antagonist, but possibly not totally loyal to him as well (which ended up being resolved shitty in the Sasuke and Sai arc, but, whatever). Orochimaru was great at the start. He was creepy, sinister, dangerous and deadly, and had strong connections to other characters and a force to be reckoned with and taken seriously, a dark shadow looming over the remainder of the exams. I liked that. His first appearance also forced Sasuke out of his comfort zone. It made him afraid and lose his composure. Which led to what I think might be one of the most powerful moments in the series - where Naruto steps in and takes charge in the fight, makes a reference to what Sasuke said before to him in the Zabuza arc when he was the one who froze up and didn't fight back, and basically gets his ass handed to him by Orochimaru, forcing Sasuke to step in and try to fend him off by himself, ultimately failing but impressing Orochimaru and deciding to use him as a pawn, marking him with the curse seal, which would manipulate and effect Sasuke's volatile emotional state in later portions of the arc.

So there was great development for Sasuke here, but what about Sakura? In the aftermath of the conflict both Naruto and Sasuke were out cold and when Dosu and the Sound ninja team came to kill them she was put in a dangerous situation. Rock Lee came to help her, but then he was beaten the shit out of, and then eventually Sakura had to make a decision, go out of her comfort zone, and start to rely on herself and take charge in order to survive and protect her teammates. I LOVED this moment. Sakura always seemed like she would be this useless female tag along character, but here she was showing growth as a character, making it seem like she would really try and fight on par with Naruto and Sasuke for the sake of her friends and teammates, and the connection and backstory she had with Ino was explored here and the way other characters were incorporated into this conflict but the focus still remained on her growth as a character really impressed me. I think this was the moment that really got me more invested in Naruto beyond the casual interest and enjoyment I had in it before.

One thing that really sums up how cool this series seemed at this time was the long promo Toonami ran for it at the time, to promote the "second season" of the show (what they were calling the episodes that premiered in March 2006 onwards). (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmTwmIW1dA4) That shit was hype. It still is hype. Even though I no longer enjoy or like the series, this promo still stands among my favorite all time Toonami promos.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 20, 2014, 06:07:08 PM
Now the third round of the Chunin Exams was just an endless string of one on one fights, a lot of them between not terribly established characters, but there were a lot of great moments here. Sasuke controlled his anger and was able to defeat his opponent in spite of the pain of the curse seal. Naruto got a chance to show he was not just a loser and make an underdog victory against Kiba. Sakura and Ino ended their rivalry and Sakura showed she was no longer afraid to get involved in a serious fight. Shikamaru impressed with his strategy against that sound ninja chick. Shino's fucked up bug powers and the fight with Zaku is probably one of the most memorable moments in the series, because just when you think Zaku had an ace up his sleeve, Shino reveals he had two and destroys the fucker. Hinata and Neji's fight did well to characterize and establish both characters and give Naruto a worthy and personal opponent to fight in the next round of the exams. And, of course, Gaara and Rock Lee's fight was intense and brutal, leaving Lee crippled and establishing Gaara as not completely invincible, but a might dangerous, merciless foe which would make anyone who goes up against him really have to fight for their life. I'm not a fan of traditional fights, nor endless strings of fights for the sake of having fights. These kind of things are what made me uninterested in most action series as a kid. But Naruto got a lot of mileage and character growth out of this section of the story, and so while I did become uninterested as this part dragged and dragged through the summer, I still appreciated a lot of things here.

In the fall of 2006 came the episodes featuring Naruto's training, introducing Jiraya. And...this is where I kind of fell out of the series for a while. Like I said before, while I appreciated the character development in the third stage of the Chunin Exams, it was just endless fight after fight and I've never and still and not interested in plain old traditional fights like that, so I did lose some interest in the series compared to the fascination I had towards it earlier in spring. So, I kind of just didn't watch much of the series for a while. I saw Jiraya's introduction and the episode where he summoned Gamabunta, and then one filler episode which I remember solely for a very solemn scene where Sakura and Ino see a despaired Lee try to move and train but fall down in pain distraught. Depressing. So I actually missed Naruto vs. Neiji at that time, and didn't get to see it until the Naruto Hundo marathon in August 2007, but as far as that goes, the message about drive vs. destiny was very powerful, with the idealistic dreamer Naruto proving to the cynical destiny-driven Neiji that destiny means jack shit, you can fight against it, and make you own path in life. While at the time that was a good moment, needless to say, when we get into the whole shit about how Naruto is a child of destiny and was destined for greatness that keeps getting hammered into out heads time and time and time again post-timeskip, it rings hollow. Worse, this was the moment that really set in motion Kishimoto's tendency to not have the world of Naruto be totally cruel for our heroes, explaining Neji's fathers' death as a decision of his own, not a decision forced upon him by the Hyuuga Clan. Even as a kid, I really was not fond of this explanation. I felt it completely undermined the tragedy of Neiji's character as well as the message delivered in his fight with Naruto. I think this was the first big indication of many similar poor writing decisions Kishimoto would employ as the series went on.

Shikamaru vs. Temari was great that made Shikamaru become my favorite character in the series instantly. Then the Invasion of Konoha happened and lots of shit went down, and I thought it was quite well done, with everything involving Gaara feeling really big to me and the fight between Orochimaru and Sarutobi being really intense, dark, personal, and ultimately, tragic, ending with Sarutobi's death, which I was shocked by at the time because I wasn't used to seeing real lasting death for a major good character at that point in time. The Resurrection technique should have tipped me off, though, that death in Naruto is no less cheap than it was in Dragon Ball, except worse because Kishimoto wants you to take Naruto seriously. I got to tell you, there are many moments in Naruto and other series where I lose interest/passion/enjoyment in where the events of what is happening in the story feel so out of place, odd, or bizarre that I get this strange feeling that I guess the closest way to describe it is "surreal." When the Third Hokage was brought back to life with the Resurrection technique and meets with Orochimaru and Sasuke alongside the other Kages but he and Orochimaru barely acknowledge each other or their history with each other at all...it's stuff like that in series like Naruto and Bleach and shit that really destroy the good portions of their series for me, because they completely undermine what I got out of them and makes it hard for me to enjoy them ever again to the same extent or at all.

For the moment, though, the death of the Third Hokage and the whole conclusion to the Invasion of Konoha felt like a really big deal, and I thought the series could only get more interesting with the focus shifting on finding a new Hokage and rebuilding the village. The Search for Tsunade arc, while partially a training arc, is possibly the only arc in the series I still like as much as I used to when I was a kid. The core events of it, Naruto trying his hardest to master a difficult skill to catch up with Sasuke, and finding a creative alternative to his incapability to do it the traditional way, Tsunade's personal character arc as she regains the faith she has in people and becomes willing to take on responsibilities and stop wallowing in booze and gambling, the relationship between the three Sanin and their clash in the climax of the arc, etc. I think all of it was really strong and don't feel any of what I enjoyed in it was undermined in later portions of the series. At most, Tsunade just didn't get much of a chance to do anything impressive in later parts of the series, but she never became a bad character, unimportant, or useless either.

This was also the point where Toonami, well, really Cartoon Network, was REALLY pushing the series. This was the point where they would have endless marathons every few weeks, gimmicks like triple premieres one week and stuff like that, and when I guess Naruto had officially, truly become BIG in the U.S. Everyone in school knew of it. Most liked it. It was not uncommon to talk about it. There was merchandise in stores. CN took every chance they could to rerun it in any time they could, pushing reruns into Miguzi's hours even though it never actually became a part of Miguzi for some reason (it had it's separate bumpers, somewhat Toonami-related because the symbol was in the bumps but at the same time never acknowledging it as related to Toonami in the bumps itself). So at this point I was aware at how big Naruto had become. At the same time, by this point, I had been reading the One Piece manga through the volumes as well as watching the subbed version of the anime, and was a much bigger fan of that series. I liked Naruto fine, but I was not in love with it like other people seemed to, and was sort of annoyed when people praised it but didn't seem to give OP enough respect. So, even back then, I was already on the "OP is the best of the big 3" bandwagon, though I didn't hear of the term "big 3" until 2010 or even get into Bleach until that year either.

In any case, for the time being Naruto was pretty good and it was doing really good commercially. Unfortunately, Toonami was not. That october Toonami was cut down to two hours in favor of giving Goosebumps more reruns, the same week as the last episode of Bobobo aired. And, after that episode, what did they replace the series with. Reruns of Bobobo? No, which pissed me off, because they never fucking re-ran Bobobo at all. Seriously, it was literally the only Toonami-exclusive show on the block in it's final years. Anyways, so not that, but did they bring Zatch Bell back after it was suddenly yanked from the schedule earlier that February? No, which pissed me off, because even though the series had been added to Jetstream that March, there was still a year before they'd get to any not shown on television episodes. No, instead of replacing Bobobo with another show, we got a second new episode of Naruto instead. So, the two-hour long Toonami was basically only comprised of three shows; an hour of Naruto, FUNi's newly re licensed dub of One Piece, and Cell Saga episodes of Dragon Ball Z.

I didn't hate that lineup back then though I'd certainly have no interest in it now, but realy the main thing that bugged me, of course, was that half the block was Naruto and it was being reran so much outside of that. I also honestly just never really thought much of the Sasuke Retrieval arc. The set-up was strong, the concept was interesting, I like the development for Sasuke's character as he fell to the dark side (the last time I would like anything about Sasuke, as it would turn out), but overall the arc did not leave much of an impression on me and I skipped a lot of the episodes first time around. Why? Okay, so you know how everybody who praises this arc loves how unique and varied the fights are and shit. Yeah....no, that just did not do anything for me at all. First off, I just did not find the fights interesting. I did not find the villains interesting, nor did I find what the characters were going through in those fights particularly meaningful (and they ultimately weren't), and the very concept of one one-on-one fight after the next, when really, when you think about it, is stupid since they should have just banded together and taken out each of the sound 4 individually as a group, was repetitive and really hard for me to care and get invested in. To say less about the bullshit that a group of genin with an inexperienced leader were tasked with the job of tracking down dangerous criminals and a rogue defector, or the out of nowhere dues-ex machina interference from the Sand Village siblings which completely undermined Kiba and Shikamaru's fights completely. I did like Rock Lee and Gaara's fight against Kimimaro, though, because Rock Lee had a lot he wanted to prove now that he was recovered, Gaara wanted to make amends for what he did to him, and Kimimaro was a very interesting and surprisingly three-dimensional character with unique, and unsettling, powers, and the conclusion of that fight was unsettling, intense, and bittersweet. But outside of that, I wasn't impressed with anything else in the arc, and honestly, I just wanted to get to the confrontation between Naruto and Sasuke. Which, I do feel was very personal, very potent, and well-executed. And the promise of the growth of the characters after the timeskip had me hopeful for good things to come. Boy was I wrong on that.

I actually started watching Shippuden from the very first episode that came out in Japan, a whole year before Toonami would finish the Sasuke Retrieval arc on U.S. tv and two and a half years before it came on U.S. television through Disney XD. In fact, I watched that entire final filler arc of the first anime leading up the the premiere of Shippuden. I wasn't really afraid of spoilers, and I already knew about Sasuke's defection and shit. As a kid I had a fair amount of tolerance for filler...but good lord, even back then, I thought Shippuden was slow and draggy as fuck. I was honestly baffled that so little happened in the first few episodes. Later, I distinctly remember two episodes that were aired as a "special," which featured Naruto transforming into his four-tailed form, and literally, all that happened in those two episodes was that. Everyone commenting on "holy shit Naruto is transforming" while Naruto transforming. That was it. That took two episodes. It still baffles me thinking about it. So, the point is, I had already experienced the Sasori and Sasuke & Sai arcs by the time the series finished airing canon episodes on Toonami. Then Shippuden immediately went into filler. And I was like, "the fuck, you had 85 fucking episodes of filler to buffer between the two shows and dragged shit out for a whole year, and now you are doing a bloody filler arc?" And I tried to watch it but couldn't get interested. So I actually stopped watching Shippuden, outside of an episode here and there, for a long time. I tried watching some filler episodes of the first anime on Toonami, and I don't think I hated many of the episodes I saw, but yeah, that shit wasn't good so I stopped doing that as well. Basically, by that summer, I kind of had stopped watching any version of Naruto completely.

As for the first two post-timeskip arcs...wasn't impressed by them. Honestly, what happened in them is such a blur to me. I've even seen some of the eps randomly in the lobby of my college while I'm making dinner saturday nights, and I still can't remember anything particularly interesting or notable. I do remember how I thought it was weird Naruto somehow seemed to lose all the spunk and personality he seemed to have before, how cool it was Sakura actually seemed to be doing stuff anc active in stuff (which didn't last), and how I did not care for Yamato and Sai, at all, and how I thought it was so strange Sasuke had basically become this unfeeling, unemotional, distant dick. It would have been an interesting direction to take if Sasuke wasn't in the limelight as he would be later on, but a somewhat enigmatic, mysterious, fallen figure who's intentions and loyalties continued to be unknown, but he basically just became emo, and this was when I would start to dislike him, a dislike that would soon turn to hate.

I think I picked it up again when Viz announced that they would be legally streaming episodes of the series. Simulcasting episodes of the series the day after they aired in Japan. Now, this was a hella big deal. Viz was the first company I remember doing this, and Shippuden was the first series I remember this being been done to. This was what ended up getting me to pick the series back up again. So I ended up catching the Hidan and Kakazu arc, which, I mean, was great as a character arc for Shikamaru but not that interesting for other characters (Kakashi has some good moments here, though, especially in his final words to the dying Kakazu where he tells him that it's time for the young to take charge and Kakazu was a fool to try and cheat death). I was super disappointed Ino and Choji got the shaft and not much development even though Asuma's death should have meant just as much to them, and Naruto's training and creation of the Wind Shuriken Rasengan or whatever it's called was pointless because he could never use it again, so...yeah, had mixed feelings on that one. Then some filler arc happened and I stopped watching again, but then the infamous Sasuke-focused Hunt for Itachi arc happened and boy oh boy did things really go downhill from here. First off Orochimaru, at the time one of my favorite characters in the series and one of my favorite villains in an anime, was killed off unceremoniously and underwhelmingly. Then we got introduced to Suigetsu, Jugo, and Karin, who aren't terrible characters but never ever got to do anything interesting in the series at all (you know how stupid I though it was that Suigetsu didn't even get to fight his idol, Zabuza, when he got revived with the Edo Tensei in the Shinobi World arc? Such a missed opportunity there), and Sasuke, holy shit, Sasuke just became insufferable in this arc and I could not get into his story or root for him as a character at all. A bright spot here was the short aside where we saw Jiraya fight Pain, which was pretty interesting and ended sad, but Sasuke vs. Itachi...do I even need to mention how that was one of the worst and most disappointing fights in anything ever? Not to mentioned Tobi's reveal and the whole bullshit retcon that Itachi was a martyr somehow and Sasuke for some reason just trusts the guy and swears revenge on Konoha and...holy shit did the series just turn bad here.

I'll also mention that I did try watching episodes of early Shippuden again when they came to Disney XD, but never really could get into them or motivated to watch it regularly. When it was on it's last legs on that channel, during the Hidan and Kakazu arc, I did watch all of that, mostly to see how Disney would edit Hidan's ceremony and things like that, but in the process mostly reinforced how mixed that arc really was, and mostly leaning more negative than before.

I followed the series sort of on and off around this point, seeing stuff like Sasuke vs. Killer B and then how Naruto reacted to Jiraya's death, and that last thing was the last I watched of the anime until the early few episodes of the 5 Kage Summit arc. By that point, though, I had switched to experiencing the series primarily through the manga. You'll notice that even though this is a manga thread most of my reflections so far have been about the anime. That's because that's how I first experienced most of the story for, I'd say, 4 or so years, and my opinions on the same arcs in the manga were not different than the impressions I got from the anime. But I was reading the manga. I did it on an off since 2006, not in order or anything but just reading random volumes time to time when I wanted to and felt like it. Ultimately, just by doing this, I got caught up on the series in manga form. But by that point I was far from enthused on Naruto, though, so I wasn't actively seek out to read it or watch it or anything. I just checked in on it every now and again. As a consequence, I actually never read the Invasion of Pain arc in it's entirety for a few years, but safely to say, the deus-ex machina that concludes it and ruins all the sacrifices and consequences characters' actions had during the course of that arc makes me quite dislike that arc on the whole. But, the arc that I started keeping up with the manga with was the 5 Kage Summit arc. And while there were parts to it I did find interesting, this arc demonstrated some of the most infuriating and unlikable actions Sasuke ever does in the series, has a lame as hell resolution to the whole Danzo subplot, as well as Naruto's unrequited crush on Sakura and Sakura's crush on Sasuke, among other things. But what really broke me and made me mad was how the arc ended and then how Sakura was all like "oh, I can't keep up with them, I'll just stand out of their way" basically after her (stupid) attempt to kill Sasuke failed and how Naruto was still insisting he was going to save Sasuke even after all the horrible shit he does. He fucking murders innocent people in this arc. And then by the end of the series people totally forget about this and totally forgive him with no repercussions whatsoever. God fucking dammit.

That was it. That was it folks. That was the arc that made me legitimately hate Naruto. Now, I had already disliked and was unimpressed by a lot of the series before this, but it was that arc that firmly, utterly, totally made this series complete shit in my eyes. It made me hate the characters, it made me hate the direction of the story, and worse, it made me unable to enjoy what I could enjoy about it's earliest portions of the story. And boy, did it just get worse, and worse, and worse from here.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 20, 2014, 06:07:20 PM
I dropped Naruto for a good while after that arc. I came back around when Naruto met his mother and learned how she and his father died and stuff and then him meeting dark Naruto and that whole bullshit, then I fell out of the series again after that. This time for a longer period. I believe when I did come back, it was around when Naruto learned of the war and left the training island with Killer Bee. I kept up with it from there for a while, liking some things like B and A's backstory, disliking others like the whole dumb shit with Gaara fighting his dad (so, so pointless), and then I read through all the gaps I missed, which I honestly might as well not have because nothing that I missed was important in any way whatsoever (the shit with Kakashi vs. Zabuza and Haku in particular pissed me off because it just repeated the same points already beaten over our heads in their arc proper, dammit). When Madara first showed up he was kinda cool, especially with that whole meteor thing he did, but that was probably the last thing I really liked in any way in the series that didn't immediately get ruined later on. Because then we got Itachi and Sasuke vs. Kabuto. Which sucked. And then we got the reveal Tobi was Obito. Which sucked and stopped the story dead with more flashbacks for weeks. Shit like that.

Flashbacks. Oh my god, flashbacks. You know what Naruto was really bad with? Flashbacks. They showed up at inappropriate times and stop the story dead for weeks if not months, and often tried to justify why the character is how he is but in really stupid and contrived ways. They are all super emo flashbacks where the character goes through something tragic and immediately becomes evil. Obitio's was probably the worst. I remember in the WMR episode where they read that chapter they didn't get why Obitio didn't just ask Kakashi why he killed Rin instead of making assumptions and becoming evil. Yeah, why didn't he? Fuck Obitio. Fuck the attempts to redeem him at the end of the series. He fucking started the war arc. Oh my god, Naruto, he fucking killed your fucking parents! He shouldn't have got a redemption moment. Neither should have Madara. And Orochimaru and Kabuto should have suffered consequences for their actions. OH MY GOD THE VILLAINS IN NARUTO FUCKING SUCKED AND I HATE THEM. I HATE THEEEEEEEMMMMMMM!!!!!!

But I think what I dislike the most about the direction of the series was how the premise completely changed. Originally, Naruto was the story of an underdog with a big dream. About a kid who was looked down and discriminated against, and wanted to prove himself, and gain the respect and admiration of the people around him. But as the series went on, Naruto stopped being the underdog. He became the messiah. He became uber perfect, he became vastly stronger than anyone else in the series, and became the only person who could basically do anything at all. He became a savior, and later, he became the chosen one, a child of destiny, someone who was always destined for greatness, and not about someone who worked his ass off to earn the respect and attention he so longed for. The destruction of that fundamental premise, and how Kishimoto kept beating it again and again how amazing super sugoi he was (and how Sasuke was as well), destroys the series for me completely, because for me, that was the hook and appeal of the series at the beginning. And so many other things like that were destroyed. Teamwork was established as being important early on, and you can make the argument that it was in the final fight with Kaguya to some extent, but overall the series dropped that aspect, and within the teams itself, there were always characters that simply did not have drive, purpose, or development unlike the other teammates, and these characters were by and large female, which was incredibly disappointing. The dark nature of the world was undermined time and time again. Jason Thompson pointed this out well, that basically, no good institutions or characters could ever be at fault for anything bad that ever happens in the world. It always has to be a product of some misunderstanding or the work of some completely one-dimmensional pure evil being the audience doesn't need to care about, and that became frustrating to see time and time again, and as I said before, characterized the flashbacks in annoyingly similar ways. And another thing that always bugged me was how there was this huge cast of characters, but so few of them ever did anything or were useful or had focus in the series. And even the ones who did, like Kakashi and Sakura, had incredibly unsatisfying character arcs and felt more tacked on than anything as the series went on and the only two characters ever allowed to do anything important became Naruto and Sasuke. So, so many things accumulated over the years that broke my ability to enjoy the series, and soured my opinions on what I used to find enjoyable as well.

I honestly don't know what to say about those final years, much. After I picked the series back up that last time I didn't drop it, at least for not months at a time, again. I thought, I came this far, I might as well read this damn thing through to the end. And, we all know how things turned out. You can fucking read my write-ups for the series that I did every week since this February to see how my thoughts on it became increasingly bitter from my initial approach of fair optimism (which is why I tried to like what was likable and rate it more favorably towards the beginning than I did as the weeks went by and the fucking Kaguya twist happened). I just read it for the sake of reading it in the final three or so years. I just wanted to see it to the end. And, well, I did.

Something I feel I should mention, is that when the series came back to Toonami in November 2012, I tried watching it, wanting to see if it held up for me or not. The first episode did. I still think it's very strong. But immediately the week after that I had to turn the channel. That episode, if you recall, was the very first episode of Naruto I saw, and as a kid I liked it. But I couldn't stomach it anymore. And then I tried, weeks afterwards, but nothing grabbed me, could make me rekindle the times where I did like the series. In fact, I just found that the series was never really that great to begin with. I'm looking forward to seeing why RolloT likes the Zabuza arc so much in next week's WMR, because honestly, I think it's a mostly boring and standard shonen arc. Same with the Chunin Exams. Search for Tsunade I tried again and I still think it's pretty solid. Everything else after that my opinions half not changed on and they are strongly negative. At one point I did like this series. I remember liking the series. But as it went on it became boring, then it became annoying, and before long it became offensively bad, then boring again, then surreally bad, then it just ended and I was like..."hmm, okay, guess we're done here."

I think most of my distaste for the series is more aimed towards the uber fans who still to this day hype it up as great shit, where I honestly see just shit. And though I use strong words like "shit" to describe this series derisively, and have at times raged about what I hated about it, and openly celebrated the announcement of it's ending, you know, if I step back and really think about how I feel about the series, I don't think I actually "hate" it. At least, not to the same extent as I hate other bad anime/manga series like Bleach and Fairy Tail. Overall, It's really just kinda "there" for me. Even when I liked it, it was just kinda there. I watched and read it because it was enjoyable enough, but I was never passionate about anything in it to a strong extent, unlike how I felt about pre-Arrancar arc Bleach. There were many, many frustrating and bad moments in the post-timeskip parts of the story, but even then, very little actually makes me particularly angry rethinking about it, and honestly, so much of the series after the timsekip, honestly, after the Search for Tsunade arc was just really forgettable to me more than anything else. It's not a got-to series for me to deride or make fun of, and it never was. I feel that as the years go by I'll mostly just not really think about it, provided that the internet and anime fandom lets me.

That was a long ass retrospective, but to sum up: I never loved Naruto. And while at times I hated it, but with it done, I feel mostly indifferent to it. But it was a part of my life for over 9 years, which is half of my life so far overall. So it did have an impact on my life, and particularly what I like and don't like about anime/manga series, at the end of the day. It is going to be weird not keeping up with it anymore, at least for a little while. I don't like basically 3/4ths of the entire series, and that's being generous. There were some really awful moments in it's run, and I don't feel the good outweighed the bad, and I can't really enjoy the good much anymore either. But, for better or for worse, it is a series that gave me a lot of memories, and many of them are fond memories of my childhood. And I can't knock the series for that. On a biased level, I wouldn't recommend the series to anyone at all. I don't like it. I gave it a score of 1 on MAL. But, I can admit that there was good in here, and that good did impress and entertain me quite a bit when I was a kid, and gave me some fond memories. Thinking about and writing about those memories rekindled nostalgic days of carefree worries and innocence, a time where I could sympathize and be invested in Naruto's flawed, sometimes annoying, but endearingly ambitious and optimistic attitude and the more impressive elements of it's story. It might not be a good series, but it was an important one. Not just in the way it influenced other anime/manga series, but how it affected people who were just getting in anime/manga like I was, and helped us become fans. It was the Dragon Ball Z for a whole generation. Maybe two. So, I don't regret experiencing this series, because that would be to regret all the good memories I have because of it and I would have missed out on an important part of anime/manga history if I hadn't read it. I do regret that it never lived up to it's potential as a series, though, and became the way it did, when it could have been something much better. I also lament how it's basically single-handedly responsible for the silly anti-shonen bias among western fans, which I've always found rather dumb because seinin, shojo, and josei have it just as bad if not worse, but that's a rant for another time. Kishimoto is apparently writing the mini-series himself and it's actually running in Jump, apparently, so it's not quite over yet. But he's moving on after next summer, and I am too. I will continue to seek out and read good, quality manga series, ones that can fulfill the promises and potential that Naruto couldn't keep. I will move on from hating a series that doesn't need to be hated quite as much as I used to think. Naruto is over. Done. Finito. It was a part of past, and it will always be, for better or for worse. But unlike most of the villains in the series, I'm not going to dwell on that fact. I'm just going to move on with my life, as I continue towards my goals and dreams. And, while this might be cheesy to say, there is not a more perfect note I think I can leave off on beyond this one, simple phrase. "Believe It."
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 20, 2014, 06:07:52 PM
One last thing I might as well do, though, is give my ratings for every arc in Naruto like how we've done before with series like Yu Yu Hakusho and Dragon Ball. I just went through explaining basically how I feel about every arc in this series, so you'll have to forgive me for not repeating my points again.

Introduction Arc - 7/10
Land of Waves Arc - 8/10
Chunin Exam Arc - 8/10
Invasion of Konoha Arc - 8/10
Search for Tsunade Arc - 8.5/10
Sasuke Retrieval Arc - 6.5/10
Kazekage Rescue Arc - 6/10
Sasuke and Sai Arc - 5/10
Hidan and Kakazu Arc - 6.5/10
Itachi Pursuit Arc - 3/10
Invasion of Pain Arc - 4/10
Five Kage Summit Arc - 1/10
Confining the Jinchuriki Arc - 5/10
Shinobi World War Arc - 3/10
Ten-Tails Revival Arc - 2/10
Final Arc - 1/10
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 20, 2014, 08:25:41 PM
Hot damn, that's one big-ass write-up! :sweat:

I probably agree on most if not all of what you said, but I don't have the time to read all of it, yet, so I'll comment more specifically on it later. That said, I do agree with most of your ratings, with the exception that I'd probably rate the Zabuza arc a tad higher and the Chuunin Exams a tad lower (if only because I can't help but compare it to the vastly superior Hunter Exams arc).

As for recommending it or not, I think the guy who does the House of 1,000 Manga said it good as well, in that Naruto at its best is still a bit too familiar territory for anyone who has just read far too many shonen, but ironically, those who haven't read or watched that much from the genre will have a significantly better chance of enjoying it. I'd just tell them to be weary of its massive quality drops, and probably say that it's a low priority read to other, better shonen if they really just want to get into shonen in general, unless they're someone who just feels obligated to read this massively popular series, but in that case you don't even need a recommendation in the first place.

Also, while I stand by what I said with KnB about the good outweighing the bad for me, and thus it's worth recommending because a lackluster ending doesn't kill the many good parts of the story (which I'd argue were both better than average and comprised more than just half of the series) for me, and while I would apply the same logic to Naruto, naturally, it still doesn't hold up because, at its best, I could still think of plenty of other shonen that do what it tries to do better. A world with harsh realities to it and tough decisions to make? Hunter X Hunter easily does it better, among other battle manga. Interesting battles with good strategy is what you want? Yu Yu Hakusho, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, Hajime no Ippo, and various others have your bases covered better than Naruto does, IMO. Do you want more meaningful character development and nuanced emotional depth to the events that occur within the world that these characters inhabit? Rurouni Kenshin and Ashita no Joe are among the kings of that kind of writing quality within this genre.

And mind you, that's only when taking Naruto's "strengths" (it's best points) into consideration. My point is that, at best, it's pretty average, and not as cutting edge as people make it seem like it is, because quite frankly taking the nostalgia goggles off shows you that it never really was that great to begin with. But all of that matters little, anyways, when you get to talking about just how much of the series downright sucked. While I'd say that more than just half of KnB was good, let's just go with what CX said and say that only the first half was worth reading. Even then, that's over 100 chapters that are consistently good and very engaging, even if you've read better sports manga (which I did, considering that I had already completed Slam Dunk before I even heard about this manga). Meanwhile, Naruto's first (and better) part isn't even consistently good, and has some pretty bad writing in between some of the more decent arcs that the series has to offer. That said, on the whole, I could get behind saying that part 1 isn't bad, and probably worth reading if you want just a decent, alright shonen to read. But part 2 has so many bad parts that literally the only thing that I could justify recommending it for would be just to see the unintentionally hilarious parts of it from how terrible it is. Unfortunately, more often than that it's just convoluted and boring, so either way it's a slog to read.

Basically, my recommendation would be, if the series sounds like something that you would like, go ahead and read part 1, and then read part 2 until you feel that your interest is starting to decline, and then just stop reading from there, because I can assure you that the series isn't going to get any better again, and will in fact just infuriate you with how much lower it continues to sink from that point on.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 20, 2014, 08:42:54 PM
Also, it's only fair to mention that I used to be a huge fan of Naruto back when it first aired on Toonami. Back then I didn't know much more about anime beyond just what aired on Toonami, and even then, I, unlike CX, really was a fan of action shows, so I was super easy to impress and basically had no standards when it came to this genre. And to Naruto's credit, even taking that into account, it was still a ton of fun in the beginning.

That said, it's the massive over-praise that this series got, combined with how I grew to realize the stagnant development of the characters and how generally unlikable they were when you really got down to their core characteristics, personalities, and motivations, that eventually soured my whole opinion on the series. So, I was certainly able to take off my rose-tinted glasses of the early days of this series, but still, I won't ever deny that I too was once part of the massive Naruto craze in North America when it was a brand new thing. In fact, I STILL own the Leaf Village head band prop, as well as the first 9 volumes in English from Viz, and even volume 33 in original Japanese (which I bought from a con, along with the first Japanese volume of Death Note). I will still probably keep them as a time capsule for the shit I used to be into, as well, but my point is that as someone who lived in a family who never had that much spare money to spend, I definitely had to be really big into something to bother spending the money that I was allowed on it.

My, how the times have changed.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 20, 2014, 09:48:10 PM
Since I was a fan of this series, at one point, I also did consider buying volumes of the manga and dvd sets at certain points, and did buy some. The first piece of merchandise of the series I bought was a dvd featuring the first few episodes of the Chunin Exams arc, which I gave as a gift to Vlord, who then immediately exchanged it the next day for something else (don't remember what, though). The only other anime merchandise I bought was the first movie, which I'm not sure why because I don't think I was ever that big on the movie, but it came with a mousepad and that was neat I guess. As far as manga goes, I have an ani-manga based on that movie, and volumes 27 and 28, which as you know is the final volume of part 1 and the first volume of part 2, respectively, and in that sense "neat" volumes to own. I also have the english Shonen Jump volume that features the first half of the Itachi return portion of the Search for Tsunade arc, which was the last part of the pre-timeskip series the english Jump published before it skipped ahead to the post-timeskip stuff, and since that is a part of the series I still think holds up well, that's also pretty "neat" to have.

And yeah, much like most people who soured on the series, it really was the combination of people over-praising it and how the series strayed from it's initial premises and stagnated that really turned me off on it after a certain point. The fact the series continued to get worse, and frustratingly so, is what turned that passive indifference into a more active dislike, and at times, loathing.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 22, 2014, 09:18:44 AM
So, if what Judar said at the summit is "true," then supposedly they'll manage to "kill" Gyokuen in this fight, but I still don't believe that she'll actually be dead. She's too big of a villain to be killed off this soon (I mean, I'd at least expect her to last up until close to the end of the manga), so perhaps she'll make it seem like she's been defeated as part of some master plan. Honestly, though, I think I like that development even less, because as stated on another thread, I absolutely hate villains who seem like they have every single possibility planned out in advance, which is more ridiculous than legitimately threatening.

In all honesty, I'm not a big fan of her as a villain to begin with. The backstory of her as Arba was somewhat interesting, but as I've stated previously, her heel turn felt unnaturally quick, and while it may have been subtly hinted at during that arc, she just didn't feel fully fleshed out enough to me. As Gyokuen, she's even more 1-dimensional so far, though, and simply just being unphased by anything seemingly going against her plan because she's apparently got a master plan feels more contrived than legitimately interesting, on her part. At this point, I really just want to see someone wipe that smug, undeserved grin off her face for once.

Putting that aside, her psychotic smile in this week's chapter needs to be made into a regular smilie on this board. That in and of itself was just priceless. :D
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 22, 2014, 04:52:00 PM
In this week of manga, Timmy draws Osama Bin Laden telling terrorists to go learn how to fly airplanes and Gyokuen makes creepy smiling faces a lot. Oh, and that manga about that bullied kid and deaf girl or whatever ended too:

A Silent Voice chapter 62 - And so it's come to this. The final chapter of A Silent Voice. Man, what a ride. What a wonderful ride. I started keeping up with this series right when the chapter where Shoya fell and became injured after stopping Nishimiya from committing suicide happened. That was really good timing, because I basically was able to see how the entire last act of the story, the part where every major character reflected on their actions, who they were as people, and what they wanted out of life, and how they all came together as a group of friends united by one goal, and how they all grew as people from this experience, as they head out towards adulthood and whatever future awaits them. Every week was a great and enjoyable surprise as each character got dissected as things slowly came together and the layers behind each character was exposed and developed. I had no clue where the story would go, but the way things were handled didn't disappoint me, and overall, out of the 19 chapters I read each week since I caught up on the series, 15 of them were my #1 favorite manga chapter of the week, and even in the weeks they weren't, they still were 10/10 chapters and in the top 3. And, as a whole, the series was just that well-written and strong throughout the course of it's run. It was like few manga I've ever read or kept up with, in tone and content, and for what could have just been a lame PSA or serviceable love story, it was so much more than that; a great coming of age story, as well as a look on people who were victims of bullying, suffering from disabilities, among a myriad of other topics.

And this final chapter was a fantastic way to end that story. I noticed some people didn't like the ending, but these people seemed to only be reading this manga for the romance between Shoya and Shoko. Which was really missing the point of the manga to begin with. Not to say that they didn't grow a romantic interest in each other as the series went on, but that wasn't the focus of the story or the most meaningful aspect of their relationship with each other. Shoya and Shoko were both people who, at the start of this series, felt alone, a burden on others, and people who might as well not even exist and thought their families would be better off if they were. But through each other they found someone who cared about them and would reach out to help them. They found other people who befriended them and cared about them as well. They became even closer with their own families. And they bettered themselves as people. Shoya became more open and able to talk with other people after having been ostrachized from them for so long. Shoko gained more confidence in herself and learned that it's okay for her to prioritize what she wanted to do and she wasn't just a burden on other people. Shoya and Shoko helped each other grow and mature as people. They helped each other find reasons to go on, and find things they wanted to do and goals they wanted to accomplish. They gave each other a future. So the last page of this manga, the two holding hands and going through those doors together, though uncertain of what lies in store for them, is purposeful; it symbolizes them embracing the uncertain future that lies in store for them with confidence, which they can do because each is there for each other. That, to me, is a far more emotional and meaningful reflection on the nature of their relationship than a mere kiss could be, and is much more in line with what this story was about and what it represented, and what these characters went through and what they mean to each other. It's a well though-out and strong ending that closes this series off on all the right notes, and there is really few ways I could see it being improved on that aren't superfluous.

A Silent Voice was a fantastic manga. With the series over I can say that it is easily one of my favorite manga. I got so much out of this story, it's themes, it's characters, and the experience of reading that last third on a week to week basis and the overall quality and construction of the story was tight and well-executed through and through. I applaud it as one of few manga, especially nowadays, that could tell a story so untraditional and un-mainstream like this, and not only have it be quite successful on the sheer grounds of it's quality, but also know exactly when to stop, and to have a direction and conclusion it worked towards not dragged down or stretched out for the sake of extending the series past what it needed to. Few manga simply end telling a complete story in such a short amount of time and with no extraneous parts like this, especially these days, and that just makes this series stand out even more. I love this manga, and it's going to be a bit of a downer to no longer reading it every week now, but all the same, I'm glad it came out the way it did and ended the way it did too. I look forward to reading Oima's next work, and I hope it comes soon. And if you haven't read ASV yet...seriously, do it. You'll enjoy it.

Assassination Classroom chapter 108 - Yet another fantastic chapter! I expected the nature of Class E's strategy to make it seem like they had escaped the cage, but that didn't make it any less great a reveal and shined well on their ingenuity. I felt Irina throwing the collar into the cell was a disguised move to help them, or give them a chance to escape, and sure enough, it does allow them to disable the collars around their neck. Wow, though, Nagisa really is in a slump. He is clearly shaken up by being utterly defeated by God of Death, and this is sure to lead into some interesting development for his character, either later in this arc or in the future. On a plot level this was just really strong, but the gags here were great too, mainly Irina's line about getting a nose bleed looking at Karasuma's "nice" body. Speaking of Irina, I really liked Karasuma apologizing to her for not being compassionate enough and telling her that he and the students really do need her in their lives, and then her line to God of Death when he comes up to her and is all like "oh hey, sorry for almost getting you crushed to death. That's just how things go, right" by responding that she's "a bitch who moves on to another guy right away," which is timed perfectly with Karasuma getting the jump on him and grabbing his back and plummeting both of them down into the water shaft...just a great "fuck you" scene and really satisfying to see the God of Death get screwed over like that. And apparently the God of Death is a real sicko who peeled off his own face so he could better wear disguises and masks. Wow, this guy is HARDCORE. And now Karasuma and the God of Death should be engaging in one heck of a fight, and man, I am pumped to see it. Just another killer chapter of Classroom.

Billy Bat chapters 126-127 - Kevin's search for a successor has been fruitless, and he's had a roadblock in writing the next story now that Billy isn't talking to him anymore. Not to mention Audrey is being a bitch by announcing on television that he won't be retiring and his search for a replacement is just a rumor. Man, she honestly resembles her father in some ways like this, but as Kevin says to Chuck, they aren't "slaves," not to her or the Bat, and they should have the freedom to do what they want. But whatever problems Audrey might be causing, a solution seems to have appeared. Timmy, the kid that Kevin met a while ago, has grown up and fulfilled his promise by writing a manuscript for a Billy Bat comic to show to him. Kevin is excited, thinking that his Bat is the genuine article, but Chuck and Devivie are a bit skeptical because, well, his Bat is a little too cute. Timmy himself kind of seems like a shifty bastard, mumbling to himself like that. But his comic lines up with the comic Kevin was just writing, so it would seem he can speak to the Bat. Except we check in on Jackie, who is being pestered by Billy to find Kevin to warn him about something, and distinctly tells her she is the only "receiver" he can talk to right now. Which, to me, indicates that Timmy ain't speaking to Billy at all. Nah, either Timmy is just weird and awkward and by total coincidence came up with a story about a guy who looks exactly like Osama Bin Laden telling his grunts in what seems exactly like Al Queda that they need to learn how to fly airplanes so they can drag America down into hell, or he's talking to the bad Bat, the evil Billy Bat. And if that's the case...uh oh. What does Billy want Jackie to warn Kevin Goodman about? Which Bat does Timmy speak with if he speaks with one at all? What is Kevin Yamagata searching for in his elusive travels across the world? The answers to these questions are more will be revealed...whenever Billy Bat gets updated again. Maybe.

Black Butler chapter 99 - Green Witch decides to live, Sebastian is one hell of a butler, and the maids were german soldiers all along. Boring chapter outside of the middle where Sebastian screwed over that old woman and set fire to the lab, but not really a bad one I suppose. Just was kind of a wash.

Bleach chapter 606 - The beard guys fight and it doesn't matter because even though it seems like Hyo...Hyoso...god I can't even bother remembering his name. It's almost december and the guy is fat and has a long beard, so I'll just call him Santa for the hell of it. Anyway, Santa seems to be beating the shit out of Ywach now, but this is Bleach, so, y'know, this isn't going to last. Especially since Ywach is all like "ha, you think I'm at a disadvantage, FOOL! I'm a main villain in Bleach! I have the power of HAX DUES EX MACHINA BULLSHIT! WAHAHAHAHA!" Like, seriously, we all know how this fight is going to end. I really just do not care about Santa at all. Ho ho ho go die and let's get this other with.

Boku no Hero Academia chapters 9-12 - I thought these were excellent chapters. Midoriya stood up to Bakugou but didn't forget his objectives and he and Uraka really did execute some good teamwork to outwit Bakugou and Iida. While Bakugou's overly exaggerated hatred and angry personality seemed too overdone for my tastes, I appreciate the attempts at explaining why he resents Midoriya so much, as well as the conclusion where Midoriya reveals his powers aren't innate but he will make them his own and become stronger than him, which both gives Bakugou some more confidence as well as fires him up to not let Midoriya get better than him in the long run. The newest chapter was also well-done to establish the character of Iida a bit, develop a relationship of respect between him and Midoriya, and make him seem like a more notable character than previously and one to look forward to seeing utilized in the future. The ending of the chapter does indicate that a major conflict with real super villains should take place soon, and that should prove to be an interesting conflict. This series continues to make a solid impression as it continues developing into it's own, and these chapters were some of the most promising yet. I look forward to more.

Fairy Tail Zero chapter 5 - Overall this chapter did a decent job developing Zeira's character and motivations and expanding on the characters of the bandits, but that fucking scene were Mavis and Zeira were taking a bath in the river like that was another one of Hiro's god awful attempts at lollicon and immediately focres me to knock this down a few grades. It's not terribly offensive compared to stuff in the main series, though, and at least the core story developed here was interesting, with Blue Skull being shown destroyed by that dragon skeleton thing. Wonder what happened there.

Fuuka chapter 40 - An overlooked voice message left by Fuuka has reignited Yuu's desire to play and not give up the bass! Will he be able to convince Niko to give it back to him? Will he get the band back together? Probably. But still a really solid and well-done chapter moving this story in a strong direction.

Hinomaru Zumo chapters 8-9 - Hinomaru and Munechika duke it out! Both have been inspired by each other to become better Sumo wrestlers, and now they get the chance to fight each other in the ring! But, while Hinomaru has a lot to prove, and has a strong thirst for victory...one that Munechika lacks! Munechika was only looking to fight a strong opponent, not driven to win against one. And against Hinomaru's bloodlust, he's completely outmatched. Will Hinomaru win using his long-developed skills, or will Munechika be able to turn the match around? Strong character driven chapters with great action, and really making me more and more interested in the direction of this series.

Joshi Kausei chapter 24 - A really cute and funny chapter that sees Shibumi really enjoy and try to seek out volumes of a manga she's really gotten into. Just a nice little story and one of the stronger ones to come from this series for the past few chapters.

Magi chapter 247 - Hakuryuu and Judar begin their fight with Gyokuen. Their plan to have her own subordinates vaporize her fails because Gyokuen is hax and she uses what I guess was one of Sheba's old borg techniques to protect herself from their attacks and then she starts to beat the shit out of them and smile really creepy grins again and again because in case you somehow forgot Gyokuen is one crazy psycho bitch. The action in this chapter was fine and fairly intense but I can't say I find it terribly impressive either as of yet. I love me some crazy faces and expressions but they they didn't do much for me here. But Judar giving her the finger in those panels where they were explaining how Hakuryuu brainwashed her drones was humorous. That scene where Hakuryuu just walked past those two official guys and they couldn't stop him because they didn't even believe in their own words on why they should stop was kind of a good moment too. Overall, though, wasn't feeling this chapter as much as I'd have liked to, but it definitely was a more interesting one than the last few weeks.

One Piece chapter 768 - "Hey, remember the plot? Remember where everybody is and what they are going? No? Well here's an entire chapter devoted to re-establishing just that!" That's basically what this chapter was, and it was pretty meh. The most worthwhile things were the parts focused on Law and Doflamingo, particularly Law revealing to him that he too is a D and that he will pull the trigger that Corazon couldn't, but otherwise, it was kind of a waste and fairly boring.

Peephole chapter 48 - Aw snap, the policewoman was so savvy the pyscho was like "fuck it" and now the whole cult has ganged up on her. She doesn't seem too worried about this, though, so maybe she's got something planned, but the build-up and tension to the last page was fun.

The Seven Deadly Sins chapter 104 - A great chapter that gives some downtime to have Ban and King talk with each other as they supposedly head towards the Fairy King's Forest, culminating in the reveal that, indeed, it has been revived, thanks to Ban in fact! And not only is King now reviled as a traitor for not being there when the Forest was attacked and Elaine sacrificed herself, but Ban is the new Fairy King in place of him! DUN DUN DUN! Oh man, how will this affect Ban and King's friendship, and how is this going to play into whatever this new arc will be about? I dunno, but I'm really liking this direction, and excited to see.

Shokugeki no Soma chapter 95 - Soma is rarely at a disadvantage as daunting as the one he faces now. Both Hayama and Kurokiba are so skillful in picking out and preparing high quality fresh fish that they are simply on a whole other level. And as such, they don't even see Soma as a threat or rival, and are only concerned in taking out each other. Soma is not just being underestimated here, he is being completely ignored. And Soma knows he doesn't have the time to match their level of skill when it comes to this, but he has to make a successful dish and needs to spend time think about his idea properly. So, it seems he's come up with an alternative! He's asking Ibusaki and Sakakii for help, and considering that they are skilled at smoking and fermenting respectively, I wouldn't be surprised if he wants to borrow those skill sets to help him draw out the best flavor of the fish on a comparable level to a perfectly fresh one. How will Soma utilize both of their skills to help combat against Hayama and Kurokiba? What dish is he planning to make? Whatever it is, it will surely be something surprising.

Toriko chapter 302 - So Pair is the Monkey King's Balls after all. Okay. In any case, at the end of the chapter, Bambina appears! That was...quick. Mmm. Really hard to get excited here. Should have been more time and build up to this. They should have fought the other instructors and gone through more. Perhaps they won't start fighting immediately, but eh, still, the pacing just feels so rushed right now. It's just hard to grasp and get invested in what's going on recently. Well, we'll see, I guess.

World Trigger chapters 74-79 - Strong chapters here, with Yuma having to take desperate measures to take out Visa and go out to help Osamu before time is up, and Miwa fights a hard fight with Haidren, and Osamu ditches his trion body in a last ditch effort to try and get Chika's cube to safety and now has to take on a dangerous plan in order to help win the day. Strong developments here that seem to be closing this arc off on a promising note. I look forward to seeing the conclusion to all this in the next few chapters, all of which, presumably, should come next week, and possibly catch us up.

Rankings:

1. A Silent Voice - 10/10
2. Assassination Classroom - 10/10
3. Billy Bat - 10/10
4. Boku no Hero Academia - 9/10
5. World Trigger - 9/10
6. Fuuka -  9/10
7. The Seven Deadly Sins - 9/10
8. Shokugeki no Soma - 8.5/10
9. Hinomaru Zumo - 8.5/10
10. Peephole - 8.5/10
11. Joshi Kausei - 8.5/10
12. Magi - 7.5/10
13. One Piece - 7/10
14. Toriko - 7/10
15. Black Butler - 6/10
16. Fairy Tail Zero - 6/10
17. Bleach - 1/10

On the whole, I would say this was quite the strong week of manga. With what had essentially been the default #1 series of the week now gone, I no longer have a weekly manga that I can always expect to be great every week either, but I could see a few series currently in a strong place develop into that role for me if they can keep up their pace. Who knows? But either way, with ASV over, I'm also down a weekly Crunchyroll manga, which makes it a good time to start getting into Yamada-kun and the Seven Witches...which has been quite enjoyable so far! I hope to get caught up shortly. In any case, a good week of manga, a great ending for A Silent Voice, and hopefully next week will be similarly enjoyable.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 23, 2014, 09:27:46 AM
This reminds me I need to get around to reading Please Save My Earth sometime. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-11-23/please-save-my-earth-sequel-manga-ends-but-new-sequel-is-set-for-march/.81350)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Pharass on November 24, 2014, 10:30:36 AM
I have to confess something: I haven't read a single chapter of Naruto. I know the gist of it and who some of the characters are, but that's it. I know that I probably should check it out at some point, considering what a huge title it is, but somehow, I've never gotten around to it.


Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 24, 2014, 10:44:04 AM
Honestly, you're not missing much. If I were to be a tad less biased than I usually am towards this series, part 1 is a pretty decent if standard shonen that just happens to get way more praise than it deserves. I mean, its got some good points, but doesn't really do anything in particular that I can't name at least one other series that does that particular thing better. Still, the overall quality is alright, for the most part.

Past the time-skip, though, the quality ranges from mediocre to a convoluted mess. To its credit, it tries to be much more ambitious with its story-telling, but IMO the execution is abysmal.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 29, 2014, 01:26:35 AM
Last friday I decided to finally check out Yamada-kun and the Seven Witches, and I got caught up to it by Monday. I didn't expect I would read through it so fast, especially since the chapters take a fair amount of time to read, but once I started I couldn't stop. The humor is hilarious, the characters are funny and surprisingly layered and well-developed, the romance aspects are handled really well, and the story is really interesting and keeps you on your toes in a good way. I really got into to it quickly and pretty passionately to the point I would yell out things and comment things as I was reacting to events in the story, and when the humor was really funny, physically react to it too. So, as you might guess, I really like it a lot. So much so that I've already re-read a third of it. It's a really fun, very well-written series that really surprised me for how well-done it is. I look forward to keeping up with it from here on out.

And now it's getting an anime adaption. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-11-29/yamada-kun-and-the-seven-witches-manga-gets-tv-anime/.81574)

Goddamn, 2015 just keeps looking to be a better and better year of anime each passing day.  :swoon:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 30, 2014, 08:18:17 PM
The Top Selling Manga of 2014 list is in. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-11-30/top-selling-manga-in-japan-by-series-2014/.81607) The top ten for this year were:

1. One Piece - 11,885,957
2. Attack on Titan - 11,728,368
3. Haikyu!! - 8,283,709
4. Tokyo Ghoul - 6,946,203
5. Kuroko's Basketball - 6,729,439
6. Naruto - 5,505,179
7. Ace of Diamond - 4,681,031
8. Magi - 4,657,971
9. The Seven Deadly Sins - 4,633,246
10. Assassination Classroom - 4,622,108

Here is last year's list for comparison. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2013-12-01/top-selling-manga-in-japan-by-series/2013)

Observations:

- I'm overall not surprised by the top 10, in terms of which series are in it. I am surprised a bit by Haikyu!!'s rank at #3, but it seems on it's way to taking over for KnB as Jump's second highest selling manga for a while.

- One Piece barely managed to hold it's spot at #1, but Titan came very close to dethroning it. I would not be surprised if it does manage to overtake it next year.

- While both OP and AoT did not sell nearly as much as they did last year, in general, manga sales are up across the board.

- Magi's sales are noticeably down this year. Perhaps japanese readers became frustrated with the Alma Thorran arc as much as the western audience seemed too.

Overall it looks like a lot of series are going strong commercially and manga sales did better compared to last year. The most notable thing for me is that Jump has lost two of it's biggest sellers in the past few years with Naruto and Kuroko, not to mention HXH and classic JoJo's didn't make the cut this year and Toriko dropped off for whatever reason as well. Haikyu!! and Assassination Classroom are selling well and will likely continue to do so, but I'd have to think that Jump is really fishing for new hits to fill the void their ended hits have left. I think Boku no Hero Academia has good prospects considering it's rankings in the magazine  so far and the sales of the first volume, and maybe Soma will shoot up with the anime next year. Overall, though, 2014 was a pretty good year for manga, and with another slew of new anime adaptions of popular ongoing properties coming next year, 2015 might turn out even better.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 30, 2014, 11:13:47 PM
The only thing on that list that surprises me is Ace of Diamond, but I suppose that the currently running anime has helped to boost the sales of the manga. Still, I wasn't aware that it was so popular, but I guess that Japan just loves baseball.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 03, 2014, 10:41:30 AM
I'm probably not going to find time this week to write my recap for last week's chapters, so here's just the rankings for now.

1. Assassination Classroom - 10/10
2. Girl May Kill- 9.5/10
3. Yamada-kun and the Seven Witches - 9.5/10
4. Fuuka - 9/10
5. Toriko - 9/10
6. World Trigger - 8.5/10
7. Boku no Hero Academia - 8.5/10
8. Magi - 8.5/10
9. Orange - 8.5/10
10. WataMote - 8/10
11. One Piece - 8/10
12. Shokugeki no Soma - 8/10
13. Space Brothers - 8/10
14. The Seven Deadly Sins - 8/10
15. One-Punch Man - 8/10
16. Detective Conan - 7/10
17. GTO: Paradise Lost - 5/10
18. Bleach - 1/10

It was a pretty strong week, overall.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 03, 2014, 07:48:13 PM
So, has anybody else checked out the first chapter of Takeshi Obata's newest manga, Gakkyu Hotei? It's not a collaboration with Tsumugi Ohba, but with a different writer, but even so, I found it very enjoyable. Almost feels like what PCP would have been if it was a real manga.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 03, 2014, 07:51:06 PM
It seems pretty interesting. I'll certainly try to keep up with it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 05, 2014, 10:45:56 PM
I mean, it's not like I didn't expect this kinda thing was coming, but still... :gonk: (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-12-05/august-2015-naruto-film-to-tell-bolt-story-after-manga/.81831)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 19, 2014, 08:32:08 PM
Welp, lot's of manga-related news happened since I've been gone:

First off, the A Silent Voice anime has been confirmed to be a film, not a tv series (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-12-15/a-silent-voice-anime-project-is-a-theatrical-film/.82166). Part of me is definitely disappointed by this news, but at the same time, I think it can make a very good film and the animation quality/production quality should be great. Some people think they should only cover the "childhood arc" of the series, and I do think that doing the entire thing in one film might be asking for too much, while that specific section of the story could still lend itself to a powerful and well-done film and self-contained story. Or it could be an epilogue of sorts to the manga. I hope we'll learn more about what the film will be about soon.

I suppose the second biggest news is that the Assassination Classroom anime has been licensed by FUNimation. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-12-18/funimation-to-stream-assassination-classroom-anime/.82350) While this ensures it will at least get a good dub, I still have no confidence that the anime will be a good adaption, and so it's hard for me to get excited. Though, I have to wonder who they'll get to voice Korosensei...

Gakkyu Houtei has been officially added to Viz's Weekly Shonen Jump. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-12-15/gakkyu-hotei-joins-viz-shonen-jump-as-weekly-series/.82197) Like there was any doubt that it would. Also another incentive to get my Weekly Shonen Jump subscription as soon as possible. Still, I do hope someone scans Ageha, since that seemed like an amusing sports-comedy series that will have a good future in the magazine.

Dead Dead Demon's Dededededestruction is on hiatus until spring (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-12-07/inio-asano-puts-dead-dead-demon-dededededestruction-manga-on-hiatus/.81797). Dang, and right when I started reading and got caught up to it too! Well, no choice but to wait, I suppose.

The "Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire" arc of Pokemon Adventures has been confirmed. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-12-07/pokemon-adventures-gets-omega-ruby-alpha-sapphire-arc/.81864) Now that Viz is up to date with releasing the series, the first volume of it should be out in the U.S. sometime next year. I still need to get around to reading the original "Ruby and Sapphire" arc (and beyond that) myself.

Hideo Yamamoto has a new manga, Hikari-Man (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-12-08/ichi-the-killer-yamamoto-launches-hikari-man-manga/.81940). I liked Ichi the Killer and have heard good things about Homunculus, so I'm definitely keen on reading the series once the scans start coming out.

Viz has re-licensed Sgt. Frog and will republish it digitally. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-12-16/viz-media-adds-mikansei-no-1-sgt-frog-hands-off-digitally/.82256) There's no word that they will publish beyond what Tokyopop originally released, which is a but of a shame. While I'm not as big into the series as I was once upon a time, it's a fun manga, and it's nice to see it rescued in some capacity.

A new Yu-Gi-Oh! movie is coming out in 2016, taking place after the end of the original series and staring Yugi and Kaiba. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-12-11/yu-gi-oh-film-scheduled-for-2016-focuses-on-yugi-kaiba/.82045) Nostalgia! 2016 will be the 20th anniversary of the franchise, so this is a good way to celebrate it. Yu-Gi-Oh! movies aren't known for exactly being good, though, so I don't have any expectations for it, but, y'know, it's neat in a nostalgic respect.

The World Trigger anime has been confirmed to be 50 episodes (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-12-14/world-trigger-anime-listed-with-50-episodes/.82167). I bet it's going to end up being a long-runner, though. Great, just what we need: Toei fucking up another anime adaption of a good Shonen Jump manga and stretching shit out with abysmal pacing and production values for years and years. I feel bad for the series' fans.

Finally, Akiko Higashimura is going to cameo in the Princess Jellyfish film. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-12-18/manga-artist-akiko-higashimura-to-appear-in-princess-jellyfish-film/.82327) Not much to say about this, but it's a neat tidbit.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 19, 2014, 08:44:35 PM
I'm actually really on board with A Silent Voice being adapted as a film, if done right. That makes 2 anime movies that I'm super excited for next year, the other being The Boy and the Beast.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 20, 2014, 01:57:07 PM
Shokugeki no Soma anime confirmed for the Spring. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-12-20/food-wars-shokugeki-no-soma-april-premiere-designs-unveiled/.82427)

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 20, 2014, 08:43:46 PM
So, I've been gone for a while, which means I haven't done one of my weekly manga recaps for about a month. I do still plan to do a write-up for all the chapters this last month, though, but because of the quantity of series that have been updated that will be a LONG one and I have some other things I have to take care of these next few days, so I'll need to wait a bit until I find some time to do that.

One thing I've been thinking about doing for a bit, though, was doing various Top lists near the end of the year to look back at the top moments/chapters/pages/series of this year. And then I thought, "that seems like too much," so I was like "nah." But then I remembered that all these anime blogger people do this 12 Days of Anime thing at the end of the year where they look back at their favorite or most memorable anime-related moments of the year, and so I thought about it again, and said "ya know what, I should do one of them things too!" Yeah Yeah I know I ain't in time to end it on Christmas or whatever, but fuck it, imma gonna do my shit dammit. So I decided that I should still do a Top Manga of the Year list, but figured that doing individual ones for moments and chapters would crossover too much, so I just merged those together. What I'm basically saying is, if you caught the gist among my babble, is that I'm going to be doing a Twelve Days of Manga thing where I count down my top twelve favorite manga chapters/moments of the year, and then on the first day of the new year I'll end things off by posting up my Top 10 Manga of the Year list. S'aright? S'aright.

Now, there were a lot of great chapters released this year, from a lot of great series this year. There was no way I could list them all. However, I decided not to be lame and tie shit and whatnot. I'm really just one chapter a day (there might be one cheat at the end, though). Obviously, though, this wouldn't be all that interesting if I had, like, 10 A Silent Voice chapters take up the bulk of the list (and I could have, too, since that series was effin' incredible), so I also decided to limit my picks to just one chapter per series, which would allow for a more diverse selection and also let me highlight a lot more series/moments that I liked this year!

So without further ado, let's begin!

Twelve Days of Manga: The Top Manga Chapters of 2014

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#12: Yamada-kun and the Seven Witches chapter #116 - "No One Asked You!!"

Yamada-kun...wow, what a surprise! I've known of the series for a while now, saw how it's the most popular title of Crunchyroll's ever-expanding manga selection, even above Attack on Titan of all series on there, but I hesitated to dive into it. The reason? Well, I let myself into the bad habit of judging things by the cover. I enjoy a good anime/manga comedy and all, but from the description and early reviews I saw Yamada-kun seemed like it was just some episodic, go-nowhere romantic comedy manga that's a dime a dozen these days like Nisekoi, and while those aren't inherently bad I've already read and watched a lot of the best of that crop, and another tepid attempt didn't seem interesting enough to me, which pushed the series a ways back on my priority list. However, when A Silent Voice ended, I was down a weekly Crunchyroll manga. And so, I figured, even if I wasn't going to get a great read out of it I might as well gather a opinion and find something at least amusing to keep up with until Oima's next manga comes along.

But holy shit did this series far, far, far, FAR surpass my expectations.

Yamada-kun and the Seven Witches is a hilarious and well-written comedy with a great story and fantastic, lovable characters that chucks all the typical mundane cliches of it's genre out the window in favor of something far more interesting and a whole lot of fun to read. It takes full advantage of it's concept and does really interesting things with it and moves it's story along at a quick pace without any bullshit filler. Not to mention the romance aspects are wonderfully handled. The relationship between the two central leads, Yamada and Shiraishi, was well developed and no stupid misunderstandings or some bullshit ever impeded the progression of things, which allowed the characters to acknowledge their feelings for each other and start dating 90 chapters into the series (which is probably like a third into how long this series will ultimately end up being), and then we see them try to work through having a relationship and balancing it with other priorities. Oh my god THANK YOU! Why can't more manga fucking do that, seriously?

Last year was probably a better year for Yamada-kun because that was when it concluded the storyline that had been running since the beginning of the series, and my oh my that arc was effin' fantastic. When I started reading this series within about 20 chapters I got hooked and started to marathon it in chunks over the weekend, and when I got to the "7th Witch arc," though it was in the dead of night and I really should've gone to bed, I found I could not stop reading it and just had to read the entire thing in one go. Honestly, the way things ended in that arc, the series could've ended there. In fact, when I got to the end of that arc, I was confused why it didn't. I didn't see how it could continue after that point. I mean, they found all 7 witches and did the ceremony, which was the point of the series, and Yamada and Shiraishi got together. What more could you do? Well, there were some unresolved plot elements, but more than that, the mangaka found new, interesting things to do with the series. Sure, introducing 7 new witches with different powers is kinda the obvious thing to do, but if it was only that the series would just feel tired and repetitive. Nah, it's what the series has been doing with the characters, how it's using the new rules and situations to put them into situations that will make them grow, the direction of the story and the interesting turns it's taking, and all that alongside the great as ever humor and character interactions has made this series continue to be an exciting blast to read. Suffice to say, that, alongside Assassination Classroom, Yamada-kun and the Seven Witches has become the manga I look forward to reading the most every week.

Now, all that should explain how I feel about the series, but why have I chose this particular chapter of this series to represent it on this Top Manga chapter list? There were a lot of really good chapters from this series this year, after all. Well, like I said before, I appreciate how the mangaka handles both the humor and the relationships between the characters in this series, as well as her creative use of the Witch powers to create interesting situations. Chapter #116 of Yamada-kun does a good job of highlighting these qualities and make it one of the most memorable moments I've read in manga this year.

It doesn't hurt that the focus of the chapter is on my favorite character in the series, Nene Odagiri. In the "7th Witch" arc Odagiri finally recognized that she has feelings for Yamada, but also knew that Yamada was in love with Shiraishi and those feelings were mutual, but in spite of that tried everything in her power to help him restore Shiraishi's erased memories and absolve the current Witches' powers and set things right for everyone. However, even though Yamada and Shiraishi are dating now, Odagiri still can't just let go of her feelings for him, something shown in short comedic bursts and in their interactions up until chapter #115. In that chapter, Odagiri decides to help relieve Yamada of some of his work on the Student Council's retreat by switching bodies with him, which leads into some wonderfully funny shenanigans. At the end of the chapter, however, she receives a call from Shiraishi, who is coming over to spend some time with Yamada. That leads us to this chapter. Unable to find Yamada and switch bodies back with him, Odagiri ends up having to cover for him in his absence. Despite herself, she volunteers to walk her back to her room and does her best to impress and please her like Yamada would. She doesn't even understand why she's going out of her way to do this, but feels as if she's reacting to seeing a side of Shiraishi she has never noticed before.

Though nothing has been stated outright in the manga, the implicit idea in this scene actually has to do with the new nature of the body-switching powers. While the other former powers had been notably modified or changed outright, the body switching power seemed to be the same. This chapter reveals otherwise. We see here that the new effect of the body-switching power is the ability to empathize with the feelings of the person you've switched with. In this case, Odagiri is responding to Shiraishi the same way Yamada would because she's experiencing the same feelings Yamada has towards her. This is reinforced in the subsequent chapter when Yamada, in Odagiri's body, shows complicated feelings towards Ushio and jealousy towards seeing Shiriashi and Odagiri in his body hugging. This is a really interesting twist on the powers that should be further explored some point down the line, and in the point of this chapter, it allows Odagiri to see and understand how Yamada really feels towards Shiraishi and why he likes her.

All of this is fascinating enough, but it's the climax of this chapter that really got me giddy the first time I read it. Shiraishi, of course, knew that Odagiri was in Yamada's body the whole time, and just went along with it because she found it adorable that she was trying to be all cool and smug and stuff (to Odagiri's embarrassment), only stopping and letting her know when she tried to hug her, since the only person she wants to hold her in that way is the real Yamada. Odagiri asks her why she's calm, since Yamada has kissed another girl even though she's his boyfriend, but Shiraishi, level-headed as always, tells her she doesn't mind because for one thing Yamada's job in the Student Council and ability to copy the witch powers requires him to kiss other people and test out the powers, and so he belongs to everyone, but even so, that doesn't bother her, because she knows that she likes him the most. Of course, this annoys Odagiri, and she retorts in response that she likes Yamada too, and while she can now see why Yamada likes her, she isn't going to give up on him. And so she directly challenges Shiraishi to her face and tells her that she better watch her back because she will take Yamada from her one day.

I've never been much into romantic relationships/plots in anime and manga outside a few certain series that handle them right, and this series is one of those time and time again. I loved this moment. Odagiri directly challenges Shiraishi here and makes her feelings for Yamada and her aims clear. Immediately after she was like "oh shit, why did I say that," but this outburst has now created a definite tension between the two. Shiraishi has never been much for showing her emotions and saying what she really feels, but to Odagiri she did state that she believed that she was the one who loved Yamada most and genuinely believed that. Odagiri's retort visibly surprises me and puts her into an uncomfortable spot, because it shakes up her faith in her relationship, and it does cause her to worry. While it hasn't been touched upon yet, Shiraishi has been distancing herself from Yamada a lot in recent chapters, and that is likely because she's become much more worried about her relationship and how to best express her feelings, since she is much more quiet and passive about these things than the bold Odagiri. While we haven't seen a follow up moment between these two, mostly because they keep avoiding each other, there's a certain rivalry that's developed between them and is going to have to come into play and blow up sooner rather than later, especially since Yamada and Odagiri have become closer the more Shiraishi has distanced herself from him. Which makes it a really cool moment that really pushes these two characters forward in an interesting direction, and moves this subplot that could have just been relegated to some occasional gag now and then much more important.

And it basically sums up what I like about this series. It doesn't stall with these plots or keep the characters that matter underdeveloped or without anything to do for too long. It keeps the story interesting, keeps giving the characters likable and purposeful, and keeps the balance between it's humorous and dramatic moments strong and well executed. It's well written and incredibly humorous, the story and characters develop at a good rate, and it's really surprised me with how consistently good it's become on a chapter to chapter basis. I wish I got into this series sooner than I did, since I would have had a lot of great times keeping up with these chapters week to week, but I'm glad to be caught up with it now, and am looking forward to seeing more good things from it in 2015.

And on a tangent, Odagiri is 'effin hilarious. I like Shiraishi and Yamada as a couple, but dang, she actually makes me root for her with all her silly schemes and bold confidence and dedication even in the most ridiculous of circumstances, unaware (or unworried) of how much of a fool she might be making of herself in the process. Consider the chapter where she tries to sex herself up and get Yamada to notice her at one point by literally shoving her ass in his face during a reconnaissance mission an honorable mention for this list.

Welp, that's my #12 favorite chapter of the year. Check in tomorrow for #11! (and subsequent days for #10-1!)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 21, 2014, 11:20:15 AM
The Naruto Shippuden anime is starting a new arc in January? (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-12-21/naruto-shippuden-anime-next-arc-begins-in-january/.82457) What the fuck? Are they making a filler arc? Are they Dragon Ball GT-ing this shit? Goddammit, it's not like I don't expect their to be spinoff anime in the future and stuff, but jeezus, don't put a fucking filler arc toward the end of your series when the source manga is fucking over. Pierrot must really want to milk their cash cow as long as they possible can.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 21, 2014, 11:25:57 AM
In better news, Gintama is getting a new tv anime in the Spring! (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-12-21/gintama-gets-new-tv-anime-series-in-april/.82455) Awesome! Damn, this spring season keeps getting bigger and bigger.

Also, a new promo for the Shokugeki no Soma anime has come out. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-12-21/food-wars-shokugeki-no-soma-new-video-cast-theme-performers-unveiled/.82459) Suffice to say I am now very confident this is going to be a good adaption.  ;D

In less good news, Billy Bat is on hiatus until April. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-12-21/naoki-urasawa-puts-billy-bat-manga-on-hiatus-until-april/.82456) Dang it, Urasawa, again? Well, I guess it's just another thing in April I'll have to look forward to.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 21, 2014, 10:23:01 PM
America is getting J Stars Victory Vs. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-12-21/shonen-jump-j-stars-victory-vs-heads-west-on-ps3-ps4-vita/.82495)

The novelty of playing as Killua and yo-yoing the shit out of Toguro...or Kenshiro ya-ta-tahing Johnathan Joestar...or Korosensei and Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo duking it out in an epic battle of tentacles and nosehairs....HECK YEAH!  :swoon:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 21, 2014, 10:43:56 PM
Great news, though this is probably more appropriate to post in the video game board.

Either way, as a PS4 exclusive, I probably won't her the chance to play it for quite a long time.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 21, 2014, 10:56:57 PM
Meh, it was manga-related. I thought it was fitting enough to post it here as much as any other thread.  :P
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 21, 2014, 11:02:47 PM
Twelve Days of Manga: The Top Manga Chapters of 2014

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#11: The Rising of the Shield Hero chapter #8: "The Words I Wanted to Hear"

I'm not a fan of all these series where a teenage boy enters some virtual game world or some shit and gets really powerful and skilled and whatnot to combat some evil thing that's preventing people from leaving the game. Even beyond SAO, stuff like .Hack never appealed to me, and though I'm willing to try out some other series I've heard good things about like Log Horizon in the future, I generally haven't been impressed with series of this ilk. This one has, though. I saw it quickly gained popularity in just a few short chapters, and always interested in jumping on the next hot manga, I decided to look into it, and found a pleasant surprise. The Rising of the Shield Hero starts out with the familiar premise of a group of young teenagers trapped in a sort of game world, and is very self-aware about how tired and overused that premise is. What it does to twist the set-up on it's head is have it's main character not only be incredibly weak and unable to fight in a traditional way and win battles, but also have him be a true underdog, hated, scorned, and outcast because of preconceive notions of the uselessness of The Shield Hero as well as being framed for a serious crime he did not commit, earning the ire of his would-be colleges and those he's supposed to protect, but unable to escape and forced to remain and help fight for people who absolutely hate him.

It's an interesting concept that is supported by the characterization of main character, Naofumi. He didn't ask to be brought into the game world, nor did he ask to become a hero, and he's treated disdainfully the minute he arrives because of his status as The Shield Hero, which is by nature a defensive occupation and useless in offense. The one person who seems to support him and become his ally turns out to be using him for her own ambitions and frames him for a horrible crime, and because no one had any respect for him in the first place no one believes he didn't do it. This messes him up and makes him bitter towards the world, mistrustful of peopel, and fearful of coming in contact with other women. But because he can't go home until the ordeal he's in is over, he decides to just cooperate since he doesn't want to die if possible and he just wants to get things over with. Because no one will ally with him and he can't fight with anything else but a shield as per the rules of the world, he purchases a demi-human as a slave, Raphtalia, and trains her to fight. Though he keeps a hardened, bitter demeanor, Naofumi doesn't become a spiteful, rude person who does ridiculously mean things to people to get back at them. He generally tries to avoid confrontations with people who mock and pick on him, and when they use force he just responds by throwing weak demons he attached to his body on them to scare them off. With Raphtalia, though he initially sees her as just a weapon and means to an end, his genuinely good nature ends up showing in the way he treats her; feeding her properly, consoling her when she is suffering from trauma, looking out for her health, noticing what she likes and treating her, putting her life before his own in a life-or-death situation, generally treating her like an equal and friend, all that good stuff. Raphtalia of course notices this about him and comes to care for him, and the two develop a mutual bond of trust in each other.

However, word gets out that Naofumi owns a slave, and this pisses off one of the other heroes. He doesn't know the actual situation, and when Raphtalia protests, he doesn't even bother to listen to her, because in his (and everybody's minds), Naofumi doesn't have deserve the benefit of the doubt with his alleged history of wrongdoings. Naofumi is forced to duel with the guy (who'll I'll just call Lance from here on because I don't remember his actual name but he's called the Hero of the Lance, so...) over Raphtalia; if he wins he gets to keep her, but if Lance wins she'll be free. Naofumi does his best in a really creative use of his strengths and Lance's weaknesses as a fighter, but ultimately foul play from the bitch who once betrayed him, Marti, (who's now on Lance's side), costs him the battle.

And that's where this chapter comes in. Naofumi of course protests that there was interference, but though there seems to be a discomfort among the crowd, no one speaks out. So Naofumi fumes in anger and loathing, his warped mind jumping to the idea that this has all been a conspiracy to make a fool out of him engineered by Marti to make it so that Lance goes down in history as a noble hero who defeated the scum hero who enslaved a poor young slave girl, and make him out to be the bad guy in recorded history.

Now, if the series had gone down in that direction, that would have been kinda dumb and made everyone out to look like dickheads for no good reason. Thankfully, this series is better written than that. When Raphtalia's curse is broken, the first thing she does is slap Lance guy for bullying Naofumi and telling him that he always treated her right and she was happy to be by his side, and then asks him the question of whether he would do the same as him if he met a poor young slave. Of course Lance guy says yes, but then Raphtalia tells him in an awesome line "then you should have a slave who isn't me by your side."

This scene is cool because finally Naofumi's detractors are called out for their shit and it pays off on the genuine kindness and good character we've seen from Naofumi and towards Raphtalia and the development of their relationship. But that's just the start. The best part is the sequence that follows. Raphtalia goes to comfort Naofumi, but he pushes her away. His experiences have made him traumatized, so much so that he fears the touch of a woman. Raphtalia knows what he was accused of, but also knows that there is no way he could have been capable of such a thing, because she has seen what kind of person he is first hand. Naofumi is still afraid; afraid to get close to and trust people. He sits crouched in a corner, shirking away from Raphtalia's touch. And then she reaches him. She hugs him, holds her close, and tells him he's right; "he didn't do it," and he has someone who knows that and believes in him right by her side. And at that moment, he is able to finally see things as they are, and he sees Raphtalia who she really is. All this time he still saw her as the young timid girl he first met her as; now he see's how she's become, how she's grown. In fact, this is the first time he really sees her for who she is, and realizes how she was always by her side. That all this time, he had an ally, and a friend.

Just like how Naofumi's eyes have been opened, and he sees the world in a new, less "out-to-get-him" light for the first time, so does the reader. If this series really had gone down the "everybody-is-a-douche-for-no-reason" route I wouldn't be so favorable towards it. Luckily, this series seems better than that. There is good cause for the way people have been acting. People did see the interference. They did know that Lance didn't win fairly. But they couldn't really do anything...after all, the interferer was the king's own daughter, and no one there, who are mostly nobles whose privileges are administered by the king, would dare to cross him and shame the princess. But the other two heroes don't hesitate speak out and point this out, and Lance guy, who was completely unaware of this, is just as baffled by it. Even the king seems disgusted at his daughter for the mess. At one point Lance guy tries to justify he was still in the right overall, since he's sure that Raphtalia is just brainwashed or something, but the two heroes just look at him with disdain and question how he could think that scene - Naofumi embracing Raphtalia, tears flowing out in gratitude and happiness, could possibly be twisted into such a claim.

There are many reasons that I approve of in this chapter. The handling of the aftermath. The payoff of Naofumi and Raphtalia's relationship and her character arc up to this point. The breaking of Naofumi's warped view of the world and his delusions. People finally calling out the unfairness and supporting Naofumi because he in the right in this situation. Developing the world and some of these other characters into something more believable and three-dimensional. When I saw this series was popular, and the claims were that they really got behind the idea of this guy making his best dealing with a shitty world out to get him, I was skeptical. People being one-dimensionally evil and mean to the hero for the sake of drama and creating some kind of dark, angsty tone would be stupid and lame, and I know that lots of people gravitate to such kind of dark, depressing series with angsty heroes trying to fight against the world hailing it with all sorts of praise, even if the actual writing is nonsensical and the messages forced and detracted by an overdose of grimness and mean-spiritedness. This chapter alleviated my fears of that and showed me that this series was going in a promising direction. It was not going to be a series with an angsty dark hero who gets a lot of shit for no reason. It was going to be about a guy trying to restore a reputation that was once sullied, and continue to do what's right despite what some people might think of him. A story about overcoming adversity and finding kindred spirits who believe and trust in you, and will stand by your side when no one else will. Now THAT is a story I can get behind.

But above all else, this chapter makes this list because of something pretty simple. For all the shit Naofumi has been through, for everything that has gone wrong for him, for all that people believed and said about him, there was still one person who cared. He still had a friend, one who will always be there for him in his time of need, just as he was for her. In that one moment of recognition from those who once thought ill of him that there is a genuine bond between these two. In the end of a master-slave relationship built out of fear and the beginning of a partnership built on trust. All of this and more, combined with powerful images and a heartwarming moment. Yes, this chapter makes my list for the true, unfettered satisfaction it elicits. And to get such a powerful feeling from a series only 8 chapters in? Now that makes a memorable moment, and a memorable manga, if I've ever heard one. I don't expect much from light-novel based series (been burned too many times), but I'm hoping for more good things from this series. And somehow, I have a good feeling that it'll deliver.

Well, so long as it's seemingly budding harem elements are kept slim, that is...^^, 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 21, 2014, 11:04:46 PM
...And shit, I just realized that I'm just barely late.  :imnothappy:

Ah well, I'll just have to make sure today's entry is one time.  :D
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 21, 2014, 11:12:19 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on December 21, 2014, 10:56:57 PMMeh, it was manga-related. I thought it was fitting enough to post it here as much as any other thread.  :P

It's a video game, though. And at that it's not even all about currently running manga.

It's no different from how the Batman Arkham games are discussed on that board rather than on this one or the one for animated series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 21, 2014, 11:20:21 PM
Meh, whatever. Point taken.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 21, 2014, 11:45:48 PM
New promo for the Assassination Classroom anime. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-12-22/assassination-classroom-anime-2-minute-promo-streamed/.82489)

Meh, this is still looking like it'll be a bleh adaption. The animation is stiff, the character designs don't mesh well with the backgrounds, the delivery of the voice acting isn't terribly interesting...I have a feeling a lot of people who have heard good things about AC are going to be mighty disappointed in this anime, especially since the first 30-ish chapters of the series were a slow burn already, and if they only adapt the stuff at a gradual pace in this anime with the blah qualities displayed in this promo, I have a feeling it won't hold many people's interests. Shame, considering how big this series could have gotten if it had got an exceptional anime adaption that polished the source material's early rough edges and highlighted it's great parts even more. But Seiji Kishii just has to ruin that, I guess.

This promo isn't even exciting. Compare this with the Shokugeki no Soma promo (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-12-21/food-wars-shokugeki-no-soma-new-video-cast-theme-performers-unveiled/.82459) that was released earlier this day. Now THAT's how you hype up a series, dammit. The difference is night and day.

I could be wrong, but yeah, I'm already expecting a whole bunch of "meh" reactions towards the AC anime. That disappoints me, especially since the manga is one of two that I can for sure count on to give me an exceptionally entertaining chapter every week right now, but oh well. Just goes to show; when it comes to most series, the manga is nearly always the way to go.  :>
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 22, 2014, 12:01:07 PM
Twelve Days of Manga: The Top Manga Chapters of 2014

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#10: Detective Conan chapter #896: "Scarlet Return"

SHUICHI. AKAI. IS. BACK.

I really can just sum up why this chapter was amazing in that one simple sentence, can I? This year was Detective Conan's 20th anniversary, and while for the most part it wasn't a dramatic turn from the norm of the series, it did have a lot of great moments worthy of the milestone, this BY FAR being the biggest and best one of them. But really, it was all in the build up to this that made this so, so awesome. Not just within this chapter, but the years, and years of speculation, hints, teases, all leading up to this one glorious moment. The "death" of Akai was a moment that changed the game for DC, and now so has his return.  The series has become noticeably more plot-focused as of late. That is to say, while we've still had many one-off cases, they are all at least tangentially tied with Conan's current goals trying to decipher who Rum is. I feel the series is going in a more focused direction now, and the Scarlet Suspicion arc was the game-changer that's made that happened.

To focus on this chapter by itself, I just love the tension in the scenes with Okiya and Bourbon. At this point we, the audience, know that Okiya has been Akai in disguise all this time. So with Bourbon pressuring him, his forces right outside the door of Kudo manor, we have to wonder how - how is he going to get out of this? And when, when will he reveal his true identity? What is Conan going to do? And then we have Bourbon's forces chasing down Jodie Starling and Andre Camel, at their wits end and backs towards the wall. It just seems hopeless on both sides. And then... BAM! SHOCK! HOLY. FUCKING. SHIT! FUCK YEAH! Amazing.

The subsequent chapter is another awesome one, paying off on the reveal of this one as well as providing a fitting conclusion to the Bourbon storyline and setting up interesting things for the future of the series. But I put this chapter on here because it's really that moment; that sweet, sweet payoff to years and years of build up and chapters of intensity and "oh shit" peril, all building up to the return of the series' greatest badass in one glorious moment of awesome. By far the most satisfying and memorable moment in this string of incredible Conan chapters, and one of the greatest I've had the pleasure of reading all this year. Thank you, Detective Conan. Even after 20 years, you still know how to get me invested in a mystery like few other series can.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 22, 2014, 03:26:32 PM
Okay....we have a serious problem here.

Kodansha has officially announced that they are suspending the release of Vinland Saga volume 6. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-12-22/kodansha-temporarily-suspends-vinland-saga-manga-in-us/.82480) No word when it's going to come out. They say it's only temporary but then they give Amazon a release date of 2017. I'm sure that's a placeholder and such, but it still doesn't sit right with me.

But it's one thing that they've suspended the releases of the series for now. They were catching up as it is. No, there's another, much worrying issue here. I was curious so I went on the ANN forum topic for this to see what people thought and saying about this news, and then I ended up coming across this post from a Vertical representative back during a survey thread:

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That's right - apparently the Vinland Saga releases have been a total FLOP. They aren't selling well at all for Kodansha. The compared series, Wolfsmund, is also one of Vertical's worst-selling titles, which doesn't reflect well on how much better VS might be doing.

This news makes me worry that Kodansha might simply cancel further releases of Vinland Saga and drop the license altogether. Which, if the title really isn't selling well for them, I can't fault them for, but oh my god HOW HAS VINLAND SAGA NOT BEEN DOING WELL? Sure, whatever, maybe historical fiction is a hard sell but VS has so many appealing qualities that I'd think people would jump right on. Considering that Berserk still sells extremely well even though it only releases one volume a year nowadays, and VS has many similar qualities to Berserk in terms of it's great action and strong storytelling and rich world, I'd have thought this would have been a series that would have quickly gathered a reputation and sell, sell, sell. And it has gotten plenty of critical acclaim. Every review I've read for every volume has been glowing with praise. So how, HOW has VS managed to stay off peoples' radar? It'd be one thing if it was a great manga that only sells okay because it's somewhat of a niche title, like Bride's Story. But how, HOW could it sell so badly it is considered a FLOP? How can such a great manga that everyone has praised and praised, with quality releases with great page quality and released in glorious hardcover, not find an audience? How do we live in a world where fucking Nisekoi is a best-seller and Vinland Saga is a flop? How the fuck does that even happen? GOD DAMMIT AAAAAAAAAGGGGHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!

....sorry, sorry...I am just...SO pissed off right now. Hopefully Kodansha continues with the Vinland Saga releases sometime soon. At least release volume 6, dammit. Since I already had pre-ordered it and everything, and whatnot.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 22, 2014, 03:50:33 PM
Because otaku talk a good game, but they don't buy quality when given the chance.

That people aren't buying Vinland Saga says it all. Shame it'll probably never be finished now, especially since the series isn't close to ending.

It would probably help if it had some kind of anime, though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 22, 2014, 04:03:06 PM
Well, then, at least I can be satisfied of the fact that I pre-ordered every volume of the series released thus before weeks to months before their release date without fail and they all sit proudly on my shelf:

(https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=200ba770ff&view=fimg&th=14a7402fa04c1083&attid=0.1&disp=inline&safe=1&attbid=ANGjdJ89g6P7krPXtgOjozDCbt-nfMyPWWYy3kBIQ4E_0phBKaDTtsONsOhkt0I0D7hYLxOb1fCf6zDxVk--H1Cz0lSfqSEY61sizi64K-6SeBi7By-byoR9JaGntUw&ats=1419285637703&rm=14a7402fa04c1083&zw&sz=w2560-h1350)

All those other fair-weather fans out there can go suck it. :anger:

But yes, I agree that an anime adaption is really what we need to push this series into the limelight. I honestly have a feeling Berserk would never have gotten as popular as it did if it never had gotten an anime either. Most series don't.

Goddammit Japan, what's taking you so long? Why is it that most of the best manga never seem to ever get a good anime? :srs:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 22, 2014, 04:14:51 PM
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-7KuG7lYpHOI%2FT6zh6jSAbHI%2FAAAAAAAACFc%2F3TwDDw5NDjU%2Fs1600%2F%255Banimepaper.net%255Dpicture-standard-anime-vinland-saga-comic6a-115263-w62t-preview-d1a73aab.jpg&hash=45f91551181b3b51b447aa36215c9eabb85f5091)

Imagining that animated.

:blush:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 23, 2014, 12:45:38 AM
Twelve Days of Manga: The Top Manga Chapters of 2014

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#9: One Piece chapter #763: "Declaration of Humanity"

Though I'm sure that there are plenty of fans across the internet who disagree with me on this, I contend that this really wasn't a great year for One Piece. In fact, to be perfectly honest, it was rather disappointing on the whole. The Dressrosa arc began last year and showed a lot of potential and promise early on to be a really big, excellent arc that could return One Piece to top form. Unfortunately, as it turned out, the arc became too big for it's own good. So many plotlines, too many introduced characters, and inconsistent pacing has made the arc one big mess of confused payoffs and poor execution in many areas. It would be wrong to say the series has been bad, necessarily, but it has hard to grasp on to a lot of the action and invest in much of the story. Especially since, outside of encounters with Doflamingo himself, the Strawhats still don't feel particularly challenged or well-incorporated into the story. As such, reading OP this year has been an inconsistent experience with many ups and downs, and honestly, quite a few chapters just came across as mediocre.

However, that isn't to say there weren't any good moments or chapters of the series this year. There were a few. But there is one clear stretch of chapters that were by far the best of the lot. One section of the story this year that was not only incredibly well-written, but showed the series in top form and on a level of quality comparable to the pre-timeskip chapters. They weren't chapters having to do with the main action of the present story or the Straw Hats, as it turns out. Instead, it was something that built up and teased for a long, LONG time, and was finally shown starting just three or so months ago. If you've been reading OP, you should know what I'm talking about. The best written part of the series this year, was by a mile, the backstory of a one Trafalgar D. Water Law.

Well, both that AND arc villain Donquixote Doflamingo's backstory, as it were. Both were combined and brillinatly interwoven together within a short stretch of chapters. We learned a lot about both Law and Doflamingo in that backstory arc, which showed much needed depth to their characters, among much other interesting tidbits (much has been noted of the interesting historical commentary and parallels Oda interwove into it). And no chapter of this portion was more exemplary and revelatory of both characters than this chapter. I wrote a lot about this one months ago in that first impressions recap I did that week (http://animationrevelation.com/forum/index.php?topic=93.msg78985#msg78985). And really, I'd just encourage you to re-read that for more specifics about it. I don't mean to be lazy here, but to try and explain EVERYTHING about it here would be extremely difficult because I'd basically be describing every panel of every page of the whole chapter. It is THAT dense and full of information.

Take, for example, Doflamingo's past. Shown here as one of tragedy brought upon by his own arrogance and vanity, his warped view of the world and mistreatment of other providing a karmic retribution that cost him not only a peaceful life but his family as well. We understand here why he built the empire he has; to reclaim a life of luxury he once lost, and one he dares not lose again. We see here why he has such a close, genuine bond with his crew; why he considers them family. He lost his. No, he destroyed his. His mother died as a consequence of his mistakes. He killed his own father with his own hands for the sake of restoring his status, only for this all to be in vain. He lost his brother for years. This was all brought upon by a fundamental difference in the beliefs of Doflamingo, a selfish, greedy noble who because of his upbringing did not understand the consequences of his lifestyle, and his father, who was aware and wished for his family to lead a fair, normal life like most human beings. That misunderstanding between them ended up in Doflamingo outing his family's former status as Tenryubito to the townspeople and riling them up to persecute and torture them in spite and vengeance, forcing his lifestyle on the run impoverished and famished. But now, he's surrounded himself with people of all types and ages. People who share his ambitions and values and will fight and die for him. He lost a family once, but he's gained a new one. One he doesn't just appreciate, he cherishes. He will defend it. We see that later on in the chapter, in the scene where Baby 5 and Law are struggling against a bandit and nearly get killed. When he sees they are in trouble, he immediately jumps to save them. Not only that, but afterwards, he allows a bawling Baby 5 cling to his leg. He doesn't try to shake her off. He doesn't say anything. No words are spoken between him and Law and Baby 5. But there's that look on his face. A sort of relieved look. That he's glad that they came out unscathed. Take this with information we learn about Doflamingo later on, like how when Corazon showed up before him after years of absence and claimed he was his brother, he immediately, and unquestioningly, accepted him into his ranks and into his home. Or the scenes in this chapter showing the Donquixote family teaching Law and celebrating and teasing each other. There is a close bond between this group. In his desire to reclaim everything that he once lost, Doflamingo not only regained his wealth and prestige, but he regained a loving family as well.

But that is just Doflamingo's part of this chapter. And I haven't even finished covering everything about his part. There are so many fascinating details to his backstory that can be looked at and analyzed and applied to what we know of him now. For a villain who's appeal was once in his unflinching mastermind-like nature; his influence and reach extending across the vastness of the Grand Line's underworld, we learn why he came to be who he is, why he has the motives he does. We see him here at his most vulnerable, and see a side to him that is strikingly...human. It is quite easily the best backstory for a villain I've seen Oda execute yet.

But, enough about Doflamingo, what about Law? Much more is done with Law's side of the story in subsequent chapters, in the development in his relationship with Corazon, but we see here through an excellent multi-page montage that he genuinely was a part of the Quixote family. They thought of him as one of their own, and, despite himself, he became close to many of them as well, with a particular friendship developed with Baby 5 and Buffalo that I really hope to see touched upon again in the present sometime. And so we are left to wonder what possibly could have made Law betray these people; turn his back on people who accepted him when he had no other place to go? We also get a huge revelation about him - not just that he is a D (everybody and their mother could have seen that coming), but his other middle name "Water," a development that is stressed and is surely hinting at something bigger with the character in the future, as well as expanding the world of the series further. But the revelation of Law being a D is important in terms of how Corazon reacts to it, and what this means. That Doflamingo hates and fears those with the Will of D is set up here and also brings that long established element into new found prominence.

That was the brilliance of this flashback. There is so much information here that not only develops and gives us new insight into long-established characters like Law and Doflamingo that fundamentally changes how we understand them as characters, but also sets up elements to be paid off later in the story down the line, and touches upon small details and facts that build the world of the series with new layers. That was what made previous great One Piece flashbacks so impressive, and what makes this flashback stand worthy on a comparable level, if not possibly greater, to it's all-time best ones. And of all the chapters in the flashback, this was the one to first grab my attention. This was the chapter that reminded me, after a long time of being ambivalent towards the series, just why I used to enjoy it as much as I once did. I was astonished at just how much story and information just a single panel of this chapter told. Now THIS is the One Piece I know and love. If only it could only be this good every chapter these days. But, at least I can be assured, that Oda does still have it in him. He still has the potential to tell great stories with his characters again. So long as those characters aren't the Straw Hats, it seems. But maybe, maybe, as this long, long arc comes to a close and a new one begins, things will improve on their front as well. I can only dream, right? Hopefully mine doesn't turn out as bad as Doflamingo's.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 23, 2014, 12:48:42 AM
Yeah, I agree that this was a really weak year for One Piece (as were the last few), but chapters like this were among the exceptions.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 24, 2014, 11:21:14 PM
Twelve Days of Manga: The Top Manga Chapters of 2014

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#8: Silver Spoon chapter #103: "The Four Seasons (6)"

Silver Spoon had a great year with lots of great chapters, so it was tough to choose just one pick from it to put on this list. But, after a lot of thought, I realized if I were to put any chapter in, it had to be this one. Not just because this was the first new chapter released after I got caught up on the series, but also because it was such a pivotal chapter for the character arc of Komaba. All throughout the initial series of chapters of the "Four Seasons" arc, we got a section of the story focused on each of the major characters, where we learn what their plans for the future are and what direction they've decided to go as they continue through their second year of High School. The last character to get his spotlight was none other than Komaba, in this chapter here. Komaba was dealt a hard blow in life due to circumstances beyond his control. And he felt that he needed to put everything aside and focus on helping out his family: supporting them financially, paying back his family's debt to Mikage's family, saving up to make sure his little sisters can get into a good college, quitting high school, baseball, and his future dreams all in order to make that happen. And that never sat right with his friends. But at the same time, for most, what happened to Komaba's family was something that could happen to any of theirs at anytime. They understood that. They were resigned to accept his decision. Everyone except Hachiken. Hachiken confronted Komaba. He questioned whether he was really willing to give everything up like he was. Whether there was nothing he could do, no way he could help, no other options left. And when all Komaba could give were resigned, stoic answers, Hachiken became infuriated, and scolded Komaba for keeping his feelings bottled up inside and saying things he didn't mean, crying the tears and showing the emotion he refused to. Then later Ayame right out called him out on giving up, when he was so aggressive on chasing his dreams before. And then just a chapter before, with Mikage, they reminisced about childhood memories, on what was over the vast mountain peaks that surrounded their area, and what lay beyond, and how while Mikage climbed many times over the mountains to see, Komaba never even tried.

And then comes this chapter. Komaba has been working his ass off trying to support his family for nearly an entire year while his mother tried to get a permanent job as an official staff member of the Dairy Farm association. Now that she has, their income has been stabilized, and she asks Komaba what he'd like to do. Komaba replies that he's just going to continue to work in order to support the family, but his mom, in an awesome scene, basically tells him to stop being full of shit and spit out what he really wants to do with his life, in his future. And Komaba, stunned, reservedly tells her his dream: that he wants a farm of his own, and his mother tells him to go for it. Komaba asks "how?:" he has nothing. But then Komaba remembers; he remembers everything his friends have told him, everything that they've done for him, and realizes the one thing he does have that nobody can take away from him - himself. All this time he has worked hard at everything he's done using his own strength and determination. Now it's finally time to put that strength to use for himself once again. And more importantly, now is the time to stop being safe and be aggressive again, and expand his horizons. It's finally time to see what's over the mountain. What's over those impossible odds that seemed so far and daunting. To see what he can make of his life.

And to cap off a brilliant chapter of character development is an incredible sequence where, at the airport, Komaba sees his old baseball team playing on the tv. His friend, the batter Uryu, felt deep regret and shame when he cost them the tournament last year, which in turn cost Komaba his last chance to make it as a baseball player and go to Koshien. And so, driven by making the team succeed this year in honor of Komaba, Uryu is found in a pinch with a critical play that will win or lost the game. And Komaba watches and sees him, and he smiles, and he turns away. He knows. And though it seems desperate and increasingly tense for Uryu, he ultimately hits hit, and with that ball, so goes Uezo High to Koshien, and so goes Komaba flying off far away, in pursuit of a future only he can make for himself, and just as how he was confident about his old team's success, so is he confident that he, too, will succeed. And so was I. This was a brilliant, phenomenal chapter for the series and the character of Komaba that made a huge emotional impression the first time I read and continued to do so upon re-read upon re-read. After a long period where things seemed bleak for Komaba, his character arc is given a huge burst of optimism, one that we've since seen, little-by-little, could very well pay off. For a series that isn't afraid to tackle the harsh realities of life, it isn't shy to show the hope and dreams of people living it either, in a way that feels genuine, relatable, and possible. There were many other great, great moments in Silver Spoon this year, but above all, this was the one that I connected to the most personally, and came back to the most often. And with a series as consistently impressive as Silver Spoon, that really is no small feat.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 24, 2014, 11:27:05 PM
Ack, I realized that I was late again. Gosh dang it.  :imnothappy:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 25, 2014, 07:59:49 PM
Twelve Days of Manga: The Top Manga Chapters of 2014

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#7: Kyou Kara Yonshimai chapter #6

Sometimes it's good to just check out a random manga. Not one that has been hyped or has any notoriety, or you even know anything about. A series where you don't have any expectations or guesses on what it's about. Just a random surprise. Often, a pleasant surprise. And for me, the most memorable "surprise" manga I checked out this year was Kyou Kara Yonshimai, a manga about a family of sisters adapting to their brother's decision to become a woman. Deeply intimate and smartly written, this manga touches upon the subject matter with delicacy and has done well to characterize and develop it's characters realistically in only ten short chapters, and a very moving relationship between the four sisters was quickly established. But the most poignant chapter of the series thus far, was, for me, the chapter exploring the relationship between Kashiwa and her girlfriend, Kasumi. From the start the development is a surprise; after all, one might expect that Kashiwa would be attracted to men, considering he identifies as a woman, and after she described her partner as "strong, reliable, and cool," when Kasumi seems very delicate, shy, and girly. And the other characters do wonder, what does that make Kashiwa? Does this mean he's straight, that he's gay? And what of Kasumi? Does she mind that Kashiwa is currently a man. Is she attracted to him as a man or is she attracted to women? How did this relationship start.

And that moves into the story of how Kashiwa and Kasumi met. How by chance Kasumi one day at a clothing store the two met, and she discovered Kashiwa's attempt at cross-dressing, and how they quickly became close friends. Intimate friends; two people who could share their secrets, and their true selves, with each other and each other alone. For Kasumi, it was like there was a beautiful girl only she knew about, a girl she could do things with that she could not do with any of her other friends. For Kashiwa, Kasumi was his only confidant, and helped him become closer to becoming the woman he always saw himself as. And over time, the connection these two had with each other became something much deeper than an ordinary friendship. Kashiwa realized she was jealous when Kasumi talked of other men, even though she considered herself a girl, and Kasumi is one as well. She realized she had grown to care about her in a much more personal way than a friendship (explained in a very awkward moment and line in the middle of the chapter). When Kasumi learned of Kashiwa's feelings for her, she was flustered and confused at how to respond; she thought of Kashiwa not as either a girl or a guy, and she didn't know if she could have a relationship with him. But, in the end, beyond all the barriers of sex and gender, there was an undeniable attraction between the two. It isn't so much that they love one another because they are a certain way; they love them for who they are. Kashiwa loves Kasumi, and Kasumi loves Kashiwa. And it's this pure mutual love, that has nothing to do with sex, such needs, or traditional ideas, that has made them experiment with a relationship, and, as it seems, be perfectly content with it.

It's a fascinating concept, a moving, touching story, and a kind that I've rarely seen executed with such delicacy and thoughtfulness in any medium. There is perhaps one line that, at first, I thought was rather bizarre. But upon re-reads, it's meant to be awkward. A way for Kashiwa to describe her feelings for Kasumi in the best way she could think of in the heat of the moment. And it works well within the context of the story and with what we know of the characters. The follow-up chapter was also excellent, exploring how these two fulfill their sexual feelings towards one another when Kashiwa hates is ashamed of his male body. Ultimately, I chose this chapter of the series because it tells such a profound story in so few pages, and touched upon and idea so rarely handled. How can we define love? How can we place limitations on what form love takes? Do those limitations even exist, or are they there only because we think them? I don't know if this series will be able to go in depth into these ideas, but the fact it acknowledges them at all is a breath of fresh air to me. That, and the fact the story told her was so well-written and interesting, that it really bums me that I haven't seen any more chapters for this series updated since I caught up to it and probably wont for a while. I hope it does soon; I want to see more of Kashiwa's story, and more of the challenges, and triumphs, she and her family will face as they try to figure out who they are and where they belong in the world.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 25, 2014, 11:01:28 PM
Twelve Days of Manga: The Top Manga Chapters of 2014

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#6: Gintama chapter #520: "Sakata Gintoki of Shouka Sonjuku"

While most everybody sat back and bitched about how their favorite uber popular battle shonen series sucked this year, the Gintama fans were surely laughing at their sorry asses because of how fucking amazing their favorite series was this year, mainly in the last six months with the Shogun Assassination arc, which felt so big and climactic that I could have sworn it would be the final arc for the series...until the end where it became very clear there was much, much more story it still wants and needs to tell. Even though I wasn't fully caught up with the series, I've been checking in on the recent chapter of it on and off for around three years now, mainly reading the more comedy focused chapters/arcs and skipping the serious ones. However, I could not do so with this arc. It not only instantly intrigued me, it commanded my attention. And as it went on I got increasingly sucked in. It's amazing; this was only a 20-ish chapter arc, but it somehow managed to do more interesting and exciting things than the current arc of OP has done in around 70. And perhaps my favorite part of the whole arc was the exploration of Gintoki and Takasugi's backstory with each other, and what caused Takasugi to go astray. All contrasted with some incredible fight scenes of them in the present day, duking it out in a long awaited, seemingly climactic, life-and-death grudge match.

All of those elements are combined excellently in this chapter, which concludes both the backstory and the battle between the two. And it's a tragic 'un. Near the end of the war, Gintoki was forced to execute their sensei in order to save Takasugi and Katsura's lives, much to Takasugi's horror and fury. But what was the last thing his left eye saw before it was gouged out? A crying Gintoki. He did not forsake Shouyou sensei, like Takasugi has so desperately wanted to believe. He did what was requested of him, what he knew sensei wanted. He bore that burden. And when Takasugi thinks back to that image forever engraved in his eye, the wound aches. Why did Gintoki sacrifice sensei, use him as a stepping stone so the others could survive, when he could have saved him? Why did he value their lives before his, when, more than anyone else, he cared for him the most? Takasugi attacks the Bakufu in spite. The one he's always been the most angry with is himself. That is why he points his blade at someone other than himself, someone who has caused him the most pain - Gintoki, an enemy that would be more painful to hurt than he himself would. But Gintoki will not fall. He will honor his vow to Shouyou sensei, and protect what he held dear. Even if means he has to kill him, he will save Takasugi's soul.

This was an incredible chapter that simultaneously developed and resolved the antagonism of Takasugi: why he truly does what he does, and what Gintoki truly means and represents to him. He has been the main villain of this series for so long, and here, finally, we see him in a moment of understanding, and at his most vulnerable. The ending of the chapter, and subsequent events, make his story and his fall all the more tragic. It was a phenomenal capper on a series of very revealing and humanizing chapters, and rendered Takasugi as a much more complex villain than we've previously understood him as and set up great things for his character going forward, as well as with Gintoki's relationship with him and his goals moving forward. Chapters like these make me wish I could get through the backlog of this series faster so I can be fully caught up on it. That said, I'm glad I've seen plenty enough to be able to appreciate this arc and the events within. I have a feeling Gintama will last a while longer, and if it can keep up the level of quality shown in this arc going forward, then I have no complaints. Also, it makes me super pumped for the new anime season coming next spring. This arc should be even more EPIC in animated form.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 26, 2014, 07:00:51 PM
So, I received this in the mail today:

(https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?ui=2&ik=200ba770ff&view=fimg&th=14a893f695ea1c2e&attid=0.1&disp=inline&safe=1&attbid=ANGjdJ9eLuf3cTf6fXAUr4nrl6wB04PkCVAGkZJ7GX6KrjX7CBeubFqHiMDotFVRcw7xcjCLyVQWWMBRqsiArGQkaz3iMD_V4tGsRrgoBzmLYmzxX1G34OvVUyH3g4E&ats=1419641847165&rm=14a893f695ea1c2e&zw&sz=w2560-h1350)

So yeah... things are not looking good for Vinland Saga right now.  :shit:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 26, 2014, 11:39:06 PM
Twelve Days of Manga: The Top Manga Chapters of 2014

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#5: Assassination Classroom chapter #72: "Sound Time"

Assassination Classroom had an excellent year, and the last few weeks of the series in particular have been a non-stop string of phenomenal chapters that are moving the series in an interesting and highly engrossing direction. There were so many standout moments from the series this year that I had trouble at first deciding which of it's chapters I should include for this list. That is, until I went all the way back to where the series was at in the beginning of the year, and saw how it started it off. That was the clincher. I knew I had to pick this chapter to represent the series for this year. AC began the year by concluding it's first long, and truly serious, story arc, one that pushed the characters and story to a whole new level, and turned this series from just a manga I only enjoyed to one that I was thoroughly invested and engrossed in.

I dub this arc - the "Island Time" arc, after the fact it takes place on, well, an island. After a fantastic series of chapters where all the students pool together all their skills to outwit Korosensei and nearly score a fatal strike against him (to which he only survives by reverting to an invulnerable but helpless ball-like form), they are immediately caught up in disaster when half of the group is fatally poisoned by an unknown assailant. Their only hope to save their friends' lives is to take on a deadly group of professional assassins head on and procure the antidote from them. This leads to incredible and tense encounters where the students, out-powered and out-matched, have to use wit, cunning, and teamwork to survive and get past their enemies and reach their mysterious employer. Who, as it turns out, is none other than their former teacher-turned-enemy, Takaoka, who is now seriously psychotic and desires nothing more than to see his former students writhe in agony as revenge for his expulsion, in particular, revenge against Nagisa for defeating and humiliating him. This leads to him forcing Nagisa into a death match between them. Nagisa has been worried about his friend, who has Terasaka been poisoned and needs the antidote. Takaoka, however, knows how desperate the students are to save their poisoned friends, and destroys the antidote right before Nagisa's eyes, causing him to become absolutely infuriated and lose his cool, causing him to try to kill Takaoka - which is exactly what he wants him to do so he can destroy his own life by being charged as a murderer. However, Terasaka, despite his pain, cries out to Nagisa not to screw up because he's worried about him and not play into Takaoka's game, words that allow him to come back to his senses. But even then, the frail Nagisa is simply outmatched in power and bloodlust compared to the bulky, muscle-bound Takaoka and he gets slaughtered for a long, long time at the start of the battle to the point where things looks incredibly bleak for him. But then, despite being battered and bruised, he lets out a confident smile. A shivering smile that rocks Takaoka to his core. Nagisa was luring Takaoka to lower his guard and enter a false sense of security, setting basic conditions he needed to execute the high-level technique he learned long ago from Lovro in the process. And now all the conditions have been met. And Takaoka will be his first victim. "Takaoka-sensei, please become my guinea pig..."

There was so much build up and tension building up to this chapter, where a huge bout of payoff is gloriously delivered. Using an excellent fake-out tactic Nagisa brings Takaoka into a state of paranoia and then absolutely SHATTERS his state of mind, quickly proceeding to execute one powerful and definitive strike that knocks Takaoka helpless. And then the glorious final blow. The most satisfying, fuck yeah moment - where Nagisa gives Takaoka one last smile, a smile that will forever haunt his memory, before knocking him out cold. Fucking. Amazing.

What was so brilliant about this arc was how it developed these characters and put them into a situation where they had to deal with professional killers way above their level, and how they managed to get past and survive against them felt so believable in that they still clearly had a longs ways to go but had still grown so much and have so much potential and it shows. And in particular, this chapter was excellent in showing how Nagisa has evolved as a character. Initially someone often overlooked as someone average, his unassuming looks and quiet personality soon turned out to make him the most effective and promising of the students as an assassin, and his skills have evolved on a level where they can rival seasoned professionals like Takaoka. And his growth as someone timid and submissive to someone who is able to both take charge in a situation, hold his own against dangerous opponents without fear or hesitation, calm himself after experiencing emotional duress, and freaking be able to intimidate, if not outright scar, a grown ass man and make him fear for his life...and the best part is, he hasn't stopped growing since then. This chapter was the perfect culmination to a phenomenal story arc; utterly satisfying on many levels, and above all, showing a rewarding and awesome growth in the character of Nagisa, one that promised, and quickly showed, great things for his character arc in the future. And among all the great moments that happened in this series throughout this year, this moment and chapter is the one that sticks in the mind the most, as the moment I knew, with absolute certainty, that AC was in fact something special and a manga not just worthy of it's hype and praise, but something that no doubt would continue to entertain and impress me throughout it's run (as it, in fact, has!), and maybe, one day, even hold a spot among my favorites. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 27, 2014, 11:08:58 PM
Kakukaku Shikajika is ending next month. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-12-27/princess-jellyfish-higashimura-to-end-kakukaku-shikajika-manga/.82676) Considering the ending the most recently translated volume, I had a feeling that Higashimura was moving towards the end of her story, so I'm not surprised, but I'll still be sad to see it go. It was a fascinating look into the life and early career of who is now one of my favorite mangaka, and I appreciate Higashimura's honesty and willingness to lay bare some of the most intimate and emotional moments of herself and her life to the world. I look forward to reading the final volume(s?) once they are translated.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 28, 2014, 12:06:25 AM
Twelve Days of Manga: The Top Manga Chapters of 2014

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#4: Berserk chapter #337: "Bridge of Parting"

The past few chapters of Berserk have spent time away from Guts and co. and focused back on the other surviving Band of the Hawk member, Rickert, as he is invited into Griffith's newly founded paradise kingdom, Falconia. At first this might have seemed an unwarranted distraction, considering they still haven't reached Elfhelm after all these years and such, but after the tedium of that pirates arc, this turned out to be a welcome respite. One that also lead to enjoyable and much appreciated plot and character development. Rickert never exactly chose a side between Guts and Griffith back when the truth of what happened was revealed to him. his decision was to continue living his life peacefully. A decision he's still sticking to, but with his feelings and position towards Griffith made clear. Throughout this mini-arc, as it might be called, Rickert has seen both sides of what Griffith's done to the world; the peace and prosperity within the walls of Falconia, and the danger and depravity of his demon army, and the chaos devouring the world outside. Rickert has mixed feelings towards the whole thing, and wondered if he should really see Griffith after all, and if he does, what he would have to say to him.

This chapter was the long built-up reunion between the two, and it was more than a worthy payoff. Griffith asks Rickert the simple question of whether he still shared his dream, and if he found the answer to the question he asked him at the hill of the swords. Rickert's response? He slaps Griffith. He. SLAPS. GRIFFITH. GRIFFITH. That might not seem like that big a deal, but think about it, when was the last time we've seen someone harm Griffith? Ganishka, despite being the ungodly abomination he was, couldn't even touch Griffith. This is the first time we've seen Griffith on the receiving end of criticism and dealt actual harm in essentially over two decades. And it was done by Rickert, of all characters. That is both extraordinary AND awesome. But it's what Rickert says to Griffith that truly makes an impact. Rickert admits he is ashamed he couldn't go with Windham with the rest of the gang that day. That he has a debt to pay to his comrades for not being their for them, for surviving and living peacefully when they met cruel unfortunate ends. But unlike Guts, he couldn't get angry at what happened or bear the burden of revenge. But what he did do was honor their memories by forging swords in remembrance of them and creating a grave site honoring them. Unlike Griffith, he didn't abandon or forsake his former comrades. He shows him how the wings of the symbol of his new Band of the Hawk are different in shape than the old one. He tells him that hsi commander was Griffith, the white-winged hawk, not Griffith, the hawk of light. And then he simply says his farewells, and leaves Griffith, standing alone on the bridge.

Not only did we see Griffith in a rare moment of weakness, but Rickert's character development and arc essentially reached it's critical point. He has no intentions of going against Griffith, but he will have nothing to do with him either. He is the one empowered in the meeting between them. For all the Hawk of Light has won, he was incapable of swaying the heart of a former comrade. This might seem like a small thing, but considering Griffith's winning streak and the fact he is essentially worship as a god-like figure by just about everyone except the obvious exception of Griffith's group, and considering one of Griffith's aims was to become a king that commanded the respect and worship of all, this is a powerful moment that shows Griffith, for the first time in a long, long time, not getting what he wants. This was quite easily the best chapter of Berserk in at least 5 years, and highly fulfilling in it's character and plot development, something Berserk hasn't been able to boast in about as long. And seeing Griffith get slapped was one of the most satisfying, fuck yeah moments I've read in any manga ever all this year and easily one of the most memorable. For as much as I liked this chapter, I suppose, admittedly, it's not quite as strong throughout as some other chapters I've featured previously on this list, considering the moments I've focused on in this chapter were only in the last half and the first half was mostly some comedy bits with Sonia (which I did find amusing, at least), but this list is ranked in terms of how strong the moments/chapters have sat with me through the year, and this was easily one of the most vivid and strongest for what it represented for the story, and for just how powerful that final image of Rickert turning his back on a speechless Griffith truly is.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 29, 2014, 12:25:12 AM
Twelve Days of Manga: The Top Manga Chapters of 2014

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#3: Fuuka chapter #36: "Live Music Club!"

Uh, yeah, talking about this chapter without mentioning the series-changing twist is way too hard. Though, I suppose I spoiled that months ago for most people who bother reading my weekly recaps, didn't I? Either way I'm going to avoid doing that so this will likely be my shortest write-up for these yet, though honestly it might as well since the moment practically speaks for itself. But, to any people out there who complained about the twist not being set-up and being a swerve for the sake of it...I completely disagree. There was set-up. Pretty obvious set-up, in hindsight. And the execution here worked exceptionally well, and was accompanied by meaningful and powerful imagery. And while Seo hasn't handled the aftermath as excellently as what I'd have liked, it's still very well-done and pushing the story in a strong direction. I was impressed with the series before this chapter and continue to do so now. I definitely felt the loss here. It was a jaw-dropper moment. But I respect Kouji Seo for having the balls and the writing talent to attempt to tell a story like this and, so far, make it work.

This list is a selection of what I found the most memorable chapter and moments in manga this year, and after 35 chapters of getting to know these characters, appreciate and come to love the developing relationship between the main characters, and to have such a huge tragedy destroy everything just when things were looking up...just...damn, man. It's a moment that's just really hard to top, particularly because of how unexpected it is, and because how destroyed you feel if you cared about the character as much as I, and many other people, did. Heck, that's part of the reason a lot of people were so upset and ragequit the series over this. One of the things they liked most was mercilessly and suddenly taken away. It was just too much for them. But, for me, the first time I read through it is still a vivid memory. I dunno how this series will end up, whether the overall story will be great or not. But, if it does, this will be not just a memorable moment, but an iconic one - one that will forever be associated with this story and manga as a turning point for a great story and series. Don't let me down Fuuka. Don't let what you've done here be for nothing.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 30, 2014, 12:36:34 AM
Twelve Days of Manga: The Top Manga Chapters of 2014

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#2: A Silent Voice chapter #45: "It Was All For Nothing?"

When I started making this list, by far the hardest part was figuring out which chapter of A Silent Voice I should include. If I was being totally honest and not just limiting this list to a one chapter per series representation, then A Silent Voice chapters would take up, like, around half the slots if not just most of them. Of course, as I said before, I thought that would be lame, so I didn't do that. Still, that meant that I could only choose one chapter from the series for this list, and how was I supposed to go about doing that? Figuring out which chapter had the most impact or was the best and most memorable and whatnot? When I was reading through the series before I got caught up to it the whole story flowed so smoothly and effectively that I couldn't really pick out a standout chapter from that portion of it. And then when I did get caught up to it, every week reading this series was pretty much like that. It had the best chapter of the week pretty much every week. It continually had standout, strong moments that impressed me. So thinking about all that, which chapter could I really say left the most impact on me?

I ended up thinking about when I started keeping up with the series - the chapter where Shoya fell while preventing Shoko's suicide (what a chapter to end off getting caught up with, right?), and then I thought about how I felt about the series after reading that, and all the questions I was asking myself. "Holy shit, did they just do that?", "How is this going to play out?" ", "Is he really going to die?" , among others, but most importantly, I was wondering to myself, "Will this series do this right?" After a big moment like that, I was both curious and worried. It was a delicate, volatile direction it was taking. One misstep in the plotting or the handling of the characters and the themes , and the story could sour horribly. And so I entered keeping up to the series on a weekly basis with a lot of concerns. I wanted this story to be a success, and not end without fulfilling that potential. I had high hopes, but I've been burned before, so I was keeping my expectations in check, trying not to get too excited or confident about it. But very quickly, my concerns were dashed, and never arose again. The rest you know by now. But what was that moment? That moment where I could be confident this series would turn out right? To be honest, I'm not sure if I can say exactly when it was. It might have been earlier, it might have been later, but when I think about the series, this is one of the moments that always sticks out to me the most. And it came right around the time I started keeping up with the series too. It wasn't the first chapter I read when I started keeping up with it, technically, but it was one of the first, and it was certainly a moment that left me very optimistic for it's future.

There are many parts to this chapters that struck me well. First was seeing Ueno finally get physically reprimanded for being such an asshole to everyone, particularly after she beat up Shoko in the previous chapter. The fact that it was Mrs. Nishimiya, who you would never expect to go that far, especially against a child, who was slapping her around for what she did to her daughter made it even more satisfying (I especially loved the fact she did it while maintaining her usual stoic expression, which makes another moment that happens later in the chapter all the more powerful). It was great seeing Ueno finally get called out on and hurt as much as she's hurt others, but what's really great about it to me is the aftermath. Seeing Ueno cry and recognize that she's done a horrible thing. The idea that she is aware that the way she's behaving and the way she has been treating others is wrong, but how despite that she does it anyway and won't stop. It added a lot of depth to a character that had some visible nuances before, and would set up a good study of her character further down the line.

But the most potent content in this chapter is in the second half, focusing on the Nishimiya family and how they are processing and dealing with what's just happened. When Ueno asks Yuzuru why she didn't stop her, she responds by saying she didn't know if that was the right thing to do. Because all this time, she's done what she thought was the right thing to do to protect her sister. She kept her away from people who might harm her. She stood up for her. When she saw her feelings for Ishida she tried to bring the two closer together. She did everything she could do to make her sister happy. Every day since that day where Shoko first tried and failed to commit suicide and said she wanted to die, she tried her best to make it so she wouldn't feel that way again. Even her hobby of taking pictures of dead and decayed things was done to dissuade Shoko from dying too. But none of that worked. All those years she tried to make her happy were pointless. She still tried to kill herself. She would have died if Ishida wasn't there to stop her. So what right does she have to criticize Ueno's way of trying to get Shoko to her sense when what she tried didn't work in the first place? What was the point of anything she's done for her if it didn't stop her thinking like that, and for almost going through with that again? And so she goes home and starts tearing down the photos she's plastered all over the wall. They didn't help. The message she was sending to her didn't get through. They're meaningless. Her mother helps her. And she thinks to herself "Should I have just told her her "don't die?", "What would Ishida have done?", "What should I have done?" And then Shoko walks into the room. And the whole family just looks at each other for a moment. And then, backs turned to one another, they all start to cry.

But it was a cleansing cry. Afterwards, Shoko heads out. She's no longer weak, timid, or shy. She's confident. Determined. She knows what she needs to do. She will take the initiative. She will repay what Ishida has done for her. She will make things right again. And Yuzuru sees her like this, and she's able to smile. The time for feeling sorry for herself is over. The time to dwell on regrets and "what if's" have long past. What's important is what happens now. How she makes use of this second chance she has. What she can do for someone who she owes her life to. This chapter marks a huge turning point for Shoko's character arc, and sets the stage for the following chapters exploring each of the main characters, and their reactions to what's happened and as they come together again to finish the movie in support of Ishida. In addition, it's a fantastic look into the characters of Ueno and Yuzuru, and the relationship between the Nishimiya family. While much of the chapter focuses on self-loathing and regrets, at the very end, there is a light of hope. Optimism for a brighter future. A future that Shoko is determined to make happen. It's a moving moment for characters that have been through so much, and it was a moment where, despite myself, I felt that this series' future was secure. A feeling that I ended up being justified for having in the end.

Most of A Silent Voice's entire run was printed in 2014. To rank this chapter on my list might imply that I'd consider this the best chapter in the series. Is it? Maybe, maybe not. I couldn't say. Like I said, it was hard thinking about which chapter of the series I wanted on this list. I had so many to choose from, and so many I could justify making it on here instead of this one. But I chose it because I really do feel it was a turning point in the series. Not just for the story or a few characters' character arcs, but for my impressions and expectations for it going into it's final chapters as well. And it provided a powerful, memorable moment that has stuck with me ever since I've read it, among other elements that I find as appreciable if not more so since then. So yeah, feel free to disagree with me, but chapter 45 of A Silent Voice is my choice for it's best chapter this year and the #2 best in manga overall.

But I bet you must be thinking right now "Wait a minute, CX. An A Silent Voice chapter only ended up as #2 on your list? But you've been so fervent about how super sugoi amazing you think this series is non-stop for like half the year! What series could possibly boast a chapter that bests what you've said a bajillion zillion times was your by far your favorite manga of the year?" Well, you'll just have to wait for tomorrow's entry to find out, won't you? Depending on how well you've kept track of my opinions on manga this year, you may or may not be surprised (probably shouldn't, though, if you consider what series I haven't brought up yet)...
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 30, 2014, 01:34:35 AM
Here comes the final chapter of Naruto!  :happytime:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 30, 2014, 01:38:41 AM
To be fair, that chapter was amazing....for all of the wrong reasons. :sly:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 30, 2014, 11:19:31 AM
 :>

Anyways, I read the first chapter of that Kuroko no Basket sequel manga. It's basically like New Prince of Tennis in that all the popular characters from the first series are now on the same team for some reason or another, though in this case there's at least a more legitimate justification as to why. But overall, I was just immensely bored reading the chapter and the set-up for the story did nothing for me, what with that other team just being stereotypical asshole jocks and the whole thing feeling like a set-up to some lame 90's sports movie. I dunno if this is just supposed to be a mini-series or whatever, though I feel like it'll be, but even so, I think I'll pass on keeping up with it. I think I'm still just too burned on Kuroko to try and like it again, atm.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 30, 2014, 11:55:56 AM
I'd say you're far too lenient on it if just being "bored" was your only problem with it.

That had to be one of the most incredibly racist things that I've read in a modern manga series.

The first half of the chapter was just boring unecessary sequel stuff like any GTO spin-off, but at least not offensively bad. The rest of the chapter made the weaker parts of the original manga look like a masterpiece in comparison. It's literally that bad.

And yes, I've seen this kind of bastardizing of American athletes done in other manga, but whereas something like Hajime no Ippo was far more tongue-in-cheek and self aware when it came to Bryan Hawk (and other such manga doing it in a similar manner), this manga passed the border of "all in good fun" and went straight to "WTF am I even reading?" territory. Seriously, what person who was even remotely sane would tell an entire country to kill themselves (while in said country) because they don't think that they are any good at....a fucking sport? Jesus Christ. I hope that this is nobody's introduction to sports manga.

Hands down the worst chapter that I've read of anything, this year.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 30, 2014, 12:32:11 PM
Oh yeah, that scene. I kinda forgot about that because I was so completely bored reading the chapter by that point I couldn't muster any rage or annoyed feelings. But yeah, that was a pretty fucking stupid scene. I might not have the highest opinion of KnB, but I still wouldn't have expected it to pull something that offensive. I wouldn't say it's the worst chapter of anything I've read this year, but it's up there for sure. Like, if I was making a list, it'd be in the top half of it, definitely.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 30, 2014, 12:44:13 PM
I wasn't really offended by the chapter, myself. It's really hard to offend me with stuff in fiction ,at least personally. Iwas just really annoyed by it, more than anything, because a manga that I once actually genuinely enjoyed went from being solid good entertainment to boring mediocrity, and then in this single chapter, it went from boring mediocrity to just flat out terrible drek.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 30, 2014, 02:28:50 PM
Since we are on the subject, I might as well list what I'd personally consider THE TOP WORST MANGA CHAPTERS OF 2014:

12. Magi chapter 244 - "The Black King Vessel"

In this chapter Hakuryu gives into depravity aka he becomes a one-dimensional villain who now irrationally hates everyone including his former loved ones. Really, this chapter earns a spot on here for one, single panel, where Hakuryu literally says "I will not stop with just this illusion, I will kill the real you sooner or later Morgiana. You are nothing more than garbage, just like your master Alibaba, because you follow his hypocrisy blindly. Hahaha..." No. Just...no. I don't care if Hakuryu is going crazy now, there's a way to handle it and this wasn't the way. It's fucking stupid.

11. Toriko chapter 304 - "Seed of Courage"

Toriko...what happened to you? You were so good until just about 4 months ago, when you pulled that Blue Demon twist out of nowhere, and you've been all over the place since. I tried to remain hopeful that you would get back on track, but then you had to go and pull another fake-out death scene, which you just did in the last arc, and while it was at first amusing, you then completely ruined when you tried to explain and justify how everyone survived with the most bullshit explanation possible. And then, to make it hurt worse, you're doing another training arc. Wasn't the point of the timeskip that the gang got stronger to fight foes in the Gourmet World? We're only a year in, haven't accomplished anything that feels really meaningful or seen the gang go through something that feels really challenging, and you're now doing another training arc. No. Just...no. I hate to say it, but I've lost faith in you.  Please stop the constant teasing and lack of tension and the bullshit explanations. It's fucking stupid.

10. Kuroko no Basket chapter 261 - "That's Enough"

Akashi starts to play by himself and owns everyone alone, "abandoning" his teammates because they are useless, forcing other players "to kneel" in front of him, and to top it all off, he says this "And thus, by witnessing my glorious final form, you should now realize you defeat is absolute." BARF! Oh, and now there's a zone level two that Kagami needs to enter in order to beat Akaishi! Yay power-ups in sports manga! No. Just...no. Holy shit, re-reading this chapter reminded me how much I hated this final game so much. It's fucking stupid.

9. Naruto chapter 679 - "The Beginning of Everything"

Hey, let's replace Madara, the villain we've hyped and been fighting for 100+ chapters, by unceremoniously killing him off and replacing him with Kaguya, that one character was was mentioned 5 chapters ago in that bullshit Naruto and Sasuke are reincarnations of the sons of the Sage of Six Paths and whatever. No. Just...no. This chapter was so surreal in how out of nowhere and bad it. But more than anything, it's just fucking stupid.

8. Kuroko no Basket: Extra Game chapter 1 - "Make It Flashy!"

Apparently american basketball players think japanese basketball players are monkeys and they should just kill themselves. No. Just....no. After re-reading it, I got more pissed off about it than I was previously. It's just so fucking stupid.

7. Bleach chapter 603 - "What The Hell"

Let's bring back those worthless mooks who got killed off in one chapter back to life except stronger now for some bullshit reason. No. Just...no. What was the point of killing them off in the first place? What's the point of these characters anyway? Do we need to see these fights? The whole thing is just fucking stupid.

6. Fairy Tail chapter 404 - "00:00"

Erza can fight perfectly fine and is kicking Kyouka's ass despite losing ALL FIVE OF HER SENSES, and why? Because "she's Erza!" HAHAHA...no. Just...no. Why do people in Japan (and elsewhere) love this shit so much? It's fucking stupid.

5. GTO: Paradise Lost chapter 14 - "The Girl Who Dreams, The Boy Who Sells Dreams"

Asshole idol boy is an asshole because he had to give oral to his producer when he was a kid. Also, Sadako isn't ugly. No no no, she's actually been pretty all this time! And everyone knows that pretty people can't be bad people. What the shit kind of message is that GTO? Holy fuck was this a bad chapter. I didn't think Fujisawa could write something this bad, but god, just wow. And we're supposed to sympathize with asshole idol boy after this and we have to deal with Sadako being in love with Onizuka now because he told her she was pretty and shit. No. Just...no. I am not going to continue reading this series next year. Just nope, can't do it. It's fucking stupid.

4. Bleach chapter 578 - "The Undead 5"

Gremmy, the guy whose power is imagination except he thinks of the most unimaginative things ever, loses to Kenpachi just because he imagined that Kenpachi was a monster that was stronger than him. ...What? No. Just...no. Even for Bleach, that's fucking stupid.

3. Bleach chapter 579 - "The Undead 6"

Oh, also Gremmy was actually a brain in a jar all this time. Seriously. Wow. Just....wow. I take back what I said about the previous chapter. Clearly Bleach is just that fucking stupid.

2. Fairy Tail chapter 388 - "Erza vs. Minerva"

Wendy cuts her hair to show that she is strong-willed now or whatever, in a scene that is supposed to emulate that one scene in Naruto where Sakura did that. Except that made sense to do in Naruto; Sakura was being grabbed by her hair and she needed to escape so that was the only option. This made no sense. Wendy just did it...because. And it's supposed to be a big deal for some reason. Why? Sakura grew her hair long because she thought Sasuke liked long-haired girls. Her hair meant something to her. That's another reason why the scene made as much impact as it did. Wendy doesn't have any of that. Her hair didn't mean anything to her or anything. So the scene JUST DOESN'T WORK HIRO STOP RIPPING OFF BETTER MANGA YOU FUCKING HACK. Can you believe that this is just the first two pages of the chapter. The rest of it is focused on Erza vs Minerva, oh sorry, NEO Minerva as she now likes to call herself because she's been "reborn" or some shit, and she acts all mighty and whatever for two pages when Erza then just beats the shit out of her which of course prompts a flashback to her super sad backstory, which is basically that she was abused as a child by her father, who beat her because she wasn't strong and also made her STRIP DOWN NAKED IN PUBLIC as punishment for CRYING. And then for some reason Erza is pitying Minerva even though she has been an awful person for 100+ chapters with no redeeming qualities or justification as to why she's that way until this chapter, and even then it's not like Erza knows her past or anything, she's just assuming she did what she did for the sake of her guild. And so, then, suddenly that prompts Minerva to say yeah, she's right, and tells Erza to kill her because she's weak and some shit, but Erza doesn't because there would be people sad if she was gone. What? And so then Mard Geer shows up and tries to kill both of them, except they are saved by Sting and Rogue, who haven't been in this arc at any point before until now and shouldn't even know what's going on, who are apparently here to rescue Minerva. You know, the same Minerva who abused them and laughed at them for being weak back in the tournament arc? And then Minerva cries because, aw, she DOES have friends after all! And as everyone knows, in Fairy Tail, so long as you've got friends, you can't be a bad person! And so Minerva is now suddenly a good guy. In one single chapter. Without any build up. Just Because. No. Just...no. Why did I start keeping up with Fairy Tail again? It's fucking stupid.

1. Naruto chapter 681 - "Kaguya's Tears"

Yeah, even after all the shit I just talked about in FT chapter 388, this is still hands down the worst chapter I've read this year, imo. It pretty much destroys the entire mythology and story of Naruto by retconning everything to be the work of fricken' Black Zetsu who manipulated everyone and everything until this point. I really don't think I need to go on and on about this one. I can't fathom how anyone can possibly enjoy the series after this chapter since this chapter essentially says that everything that the characters have done in the story up until this point has been completely pointless. No. Just...no. I think you get where I'm going with this. Say it with me now: IT'S. FUCKING. STUPID.

There are probably objectively worse chapters that I've read this year than some of these, but these stick out to me as moments and chapters from manga this year that really pissed me off and I genuinely hated.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 30, 2014, 03:06:10 PM
That One Piece chapter where Rebecca cries and begs "Soldier-san" to save her also comes to mind. Even for a character that was only just established in this arc, Oda can't seem to stay consistent with her and instead writes her out of character just a few chapters after we're reminded that she does actually know how to fight and defend herself.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 30, 2014, 03:38:53 PM
That's a lot of stupid.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 01, 2015, 06:34:27 PM
Yeah, I know I'm late with this. I wrote a whole lengthy piece on this one, but then somehow I got timed out of the forum just when I was finished writing it and I lost everything. This both depresses me and pisses me off since I just spent over a half hour or so writing it, and so now I don't feel motivated to do it all over again (and I don't have the time right now to do so as it is). But, here's what my #1 chapter of the year is anyway:

Twelve Days of Manga: The Top Manga Chapters of 2014

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#1: Princess Jellyfish chapters 70 & 71: "The Devil Wears a White Shirt" & "Good Jellyfish Hunting"

Yeah, I know I'm cheating by listing two chapters. I wrote a big spiel justifying it, but that got deleted so....deal with it. I'll just have to go into more detail about the series later in my Top Manga of the Year list (spoiler, it's on there), which I'll get around to posting maybe later tonight but more likely tomorrow. I'll edit in an explanation for this one later when I'm in a better mood.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 03, 2015, 03:18:03 PM
The Heroic Legend of Arslan anime is coming in April. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-01-03/the-heroic-legend-of-arslan-anime-main-staff-april-premiere-unveiled/.82863)

That spring season man, that spring season...
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 06, 2015, 11:14:10 PM
Here's a recent poll tallying which manga fans most want to see end can't wait to read the ending of.  (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/01/06-1/japanese-fans-name-manga-whose-ending-they-cant-wait-to-read) The top ten is as follows:

1. Kochira Katsushika-ku Kamearikouen-mae Hashutsujo (aka Kochikame)
1. Detective Conan
2. One Piece
3. Glass no Kamen (Glass Mask)
4. Hunter X Hunter
5. Golgo 13
6. Oishinbo
7. Hajime no Ippo (Fighting Spirit)
8. NANA
9. JoJo's Bizarre Adventure

No surprises here. These are all popular series that have gone on so long that no doubt a lot of people are getting pretty antsy to see how they finally end.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 06, 2015, 11:28:06 PM
I'm surprised Berserk isn't near the top, but I don't know how popular it is now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 06, 2015, 11:35:50 PM
Well, it's #14 on the list. That's not too far out. I'm more surprised Captain Tsubasa isn't anywhere on the list more than anything.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 07, 2015, 08:09:37 AM
I can see One Piece ending sometime within the next 10 years or so, myself.

As for HXH, I am thoroughly convinced that unless he decides to just abruptly end it out of nowhere, the series will not be completed within Togashi's lifetime, at the rate that he's going.

Hajime no Ippo feels like the most predictable ending to me. That said, even with a hardworking mangaka like Morikawa, this also feels like a series that will end up outliving its creator.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 07, 2015, 03:50:34 PM
One Piece will end. It's not the type of story that can be stretched out for thirty years and still have people care without feeling strung along.

HxH I see being abandoned eventually. It will go about a decade without new chapters and suddenly Togashi will make a comment like: "Oh that? Yeah, I don't do that anymore." I can totally see it happening.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 07, 2015, 05:22:39 PM
Well, to give my thoughts on all of them:

Kochikame, Oishinbo, and Golgo 13 have no overarching story so they can potentially go on forever and very well could.

I can see Detective Conan ending in a few years considering the plot developments that happened last year. I figure it'll still make it to it's 25th year before it does though.

One Piece will probably end in around 10 years.

The Glass Mask mangaka said she would end the series soon....5 years ago. I haven't read it so I don't know how close it is to actually finishing.

Hunter X Hunter is probably just going to get abandoned at some point. If it does have an ending it will most likely be a hastily thrown together one like YYH had.

From what I can tell Hajime no Ippo only needs a few years of material to close it off. I think it could easily end in around 5 years if the story just stays focused on the important stuff and is paced properly.

NANA is the only one of these series that isn't super long or "dragged out" and to my understanding could end shortly enough if only it could comeback from it's hiatus. Who knows if it ever will, though.

JoJo's is structured in a way that every story arc essentially stands on it's own. As such, it could go on as long as Araki wants it to and never lose steam since he changes the premise and focus of the series in every arc.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 08, 2015, 02:07:46 AM
Well, I said I was going to post this list a week ago, but for various reasons I just couldn't get motivated to do it before now. Unlike the majority of my 12 Days posts my write-ups for these will be rather short and won't go into any analysis, but they should do the job of justifying "how" and "why."

2014 was a really good year for manga both commercially and in terms of quality on both sides of the pond and things are only looking up for 2015. On my front I quintupled the amount of manga I kept up with and discovered a lot of quality series, some of which becoming new favorites of mine. There were certainly some mediocre series and output this year, but even so the good far outweighed the bad. I spent twelve days counting down and explaining my twelve favorite chapters and moments in manga this year (though I ended up not writing anything for my #1 which was unfortunate), and now it's time to count down what the ten best manga series were in 2014. These are the series that consistently impressed me with their quality this year and were overall the best written and most memorable of the crop. Without further ado...

The Top Ten Manga of 2014:

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#10: Girl May Kill
Chapters: #1-19

Though the premise is familiar and the simple artwork and character designs originally seemed like it work against the series' favor, Girl May Kill is a strongly written and excellent series that makes full use of the implications attached to it's premise with well-written characters and strong development and character studies. Though initially I was worried that the series would follow the path of certain other manga that involve grown men adopting a little girl as their daughter, thankfully this series isn't interested in turning out like that and the relationship between Gohongi and Mei is much more mutli-faceted and dually positive and negative, though in Mei's case, it becomes full-on disturbing how devoted she becomes to him and the lengths she will go to keep him by her side.

Much like other series that involve a salary man unwittingly getting involved in a criminal underworld (i.e. Black Lagoon), a lot of the focus has been on Gohongi retaining his conviction in order to stay close and help the people he cares about, particularly Mei, while still trying not to get too deep into the operations of the Lovely Town mafia to the point he won't be able to back out and continue living a normal life. What makes this so interesting is that Gohongi isn't prepared and underestimates how dangerous living with and associating with these gangsters are, and that he himself is a flawed person who's idealistic outlook ends up slowly being broken as he is involved and brought into situations where he fails to help people he cares about and in fact brings many of them into danger, which often costs them. At this point in the story he is still a good person at heart, but the consequences of his involvement in the gang war has had serious repercussions on many of the people he's tried to help.

The direction the story is taking isn't pleasant as both Mei and Gohongi bring themselves down further into emotional instability and a dangerous co-dependence, a problem that is going to boil sooner rather than later. I'm not sure if this story will end up being one of redemption and salvation or something more depressing, but whatever the case it's one of the most interesting and well-written series I've read this year with huge potential and promise in it's future. Considering less than 400 people on MAL seem to be reading it, it's easily the most under-the-radar series on this list and I'm keeping up with in general, but with it legally available via Crunchyroll manga hopefully more people start to check it out as it picks up more steam.

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#9: Fuuka
Chapters: #1-44

I avoided reading this for a while because I figured it was just another standard rom-com manga. But shortly after I got into BECK and became a fan of that I learned that this series was also a manga about music. Interested, I quickly snatched it up and read through it in one lazy afternoon at the end of the summer. Suffice to say, I was pleasantly surprised and impressed. It was a well-written romance series with sensibly written characters who behaved reasonably and realistically, and the slow development into the music element of the series was well-done and appreciable. It never dragged or lost the pace and had very likeable and diverse characters (Mikasa in particular gets props for being one of the best written portrayals of a homosexual character I've ever seen in manga), and how the love triangle was handled and resolved was one of the best I've seen done. I also enjoyed the fact that the main couple got together after only 30 chapters. That never happens, and I liked how we saw them in a relationship and work through some of their concerns for a few chapters. Sure, that twist abruptly ends that and that does bum me out (especially since Fuuka was such a great character), but at the same time it was foreshadowed so I can't hold it that much against the mangaka, though I still feel it's a bit of a missed opportunity.

I haven't read Seo Kouji's other works and from what I've heard about them I'm unsure of how good they are or not. However, Fuuka has been great so far and even after that series-changing twist three months ago it still continues to be. It's a well-written story with good characters that is pushing forward in a good and interesting direction, and I've been really enjoying it. I have good hopes for it this year and think it really good end up being something being special. I've been disappointed by series that had potential before so I'm keeping my expectations in check, but so far I've been given no reason to worry and the manga continues to impress me with the way it's handled itself. It hasn't been perfect, and I would've liked more time before the recovery, but it's not like I can expect something akin to "The Fall of Joe Yabuki" in a modern-day slice-of-life/romance manga considering the nature of the business and fans these days anyway. It's still one of the best currently-running shonen slice-of-life's I've discovered and one of the best series Crunchyroll manga has to offer, and I expect it will continue to be for a good while. I wouldn't be surprised if I'm able to give it a higher ranking next year.

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#8: A Bride's Story
Chapters: #35-43

Bride's Story spent most of this year focusing on a new bride and a different kind of love story. Whereas the previous stories focused on people searching for a romantic love and finding it in spite of adversities and doubts, the focus of Anis' story is rather different. She has a partner and is content with him but she still feels lonely since her husband spends so much time away from her, leaving her by herself. What Anis is missing is someone she can really spend time with and confide in, a friend, and her story was focused on how she went about finding and making that friend and the worries and awkwardness and intimacy that came with that. The connection she eventually made with Shirin was fascinating in how it developed and how strong the bond between them became, and Mori's implementation on the idea of sister-bride's within this culture was spot-on in keeping with the themes of the series and the needs of these characters.

Many people while reading this were wondering if the two were forming a sort of romantic connection, but it really iss just a really deep friendship between these two women who enjoy each other's company and want to be there for one another. And how far Anis is willing to go for Shirin's sake in her time of need is moving as well. Compared to other women in her culture and time she is lucky to have a husband she doesn't have to share, but she takes it on herself to have him take Shirin on as a second wife in order for her and her child to be able to survive financially. If it was for anyone else, she admits she would hate the thought, but if it's for her best friend, she is willing to make that kind of sacrifice. I can't help but wonder how this will affect the friendship and relationship between the two and whether they will be able to deal with the inevitable issues that will arise. Kaoru Mori's travelogue continues to explore such amazing themes in the context of such a fascinating historical timeframe and culture and I can't wait to see how Anis and Shirin's story concludes this year, and what other stories she'll move on to next.

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#7: Assassination Classroom
Chapters: #71-113

I'd like to consider this year a transitional year for Assassination Classroom. After establishing the characters, story, and setting the direction of the story in it's current direction through the events of the Island arc which capped the series off last year and concluded right at the beginning of this year, the series proceeded to focus on it's set-up plot and character threads and systematically bring them to some conclusion or progress, while building up to the God of Death arc that essentially concluded the series this year. All the core characters got some good development and have things set-up for them to do as the series continues, and the final conflict(s) of the series seem to be being built up in the aftermath of the God of Death arc and other recent storylines. AC seems to know where it wants to go and what it wants to do with it's characters and it's been a blast to follow it through most of this year, especially in the last few months where it's produced one excellent chapter after another and only with the last released chapter sort of wound down.

If I had to choose one thing in particular that I've loved in the series this year it is the way the characters have been developed, namely Itona, Karasuma, Irina, Terasaka, and most importantly Nagisa. While I'm a bit disappointing that the direction of Nagisa's character arc isn't going in the direction I thought it would, it has still been impressive and interesting to see develop and I'm excited to see where it'll lead to in the future. I have a feeling this year will be a big year for the series. Not just because of the anime, regardless of it's quality, can only push it's popularity to even greater heights, but also because it's set-up a lot to look forward to seeing this year. Even though the series is popular Matsui seems to be moving it along at a good pace and has an endgame in mind. What he'll do with the series with what he's set in motion excites me and as it stands it's easily the most interesting and consistently entertaining series running in Weekly Shonen Jump and one of the most consistently well-done currently running shonen manga in general and I don't see that changing anything soon.

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#6: Silver Spoon
Chapters: #93-108

This year was a pivotal one in the direction of the story of Silver Spoon and the paths the characters have taken in their lives. Hachiken and Okawa worked hard to put together a solid business proposal to get funding from Hachiken's father and took the initiative to start their own business, Mikage worked hard in her studies to get closer to her goal of attending a good school where she can work with horses, and all sorts of various minor characters were shown moving towards a new transition in their life as they worked towards their future goals and dreams. As I explained before, my favorite of a sequence of chapters that focused specifically on certain characters and where they're going in life was Komaba, who after having once given up his future now aspires to reclaim it and with blood and sweat works towards fulfilling his dream. It was a wonderful year of chapters that proved at times hilarious, other times inspiring, and many times moving.

And I loved the way the series ended the year, with the Equestrian Club participating in it's most important competition to date, and Hachiken doing his absolute best to help his team win, and Mikage's love of horses and dedication to her craft earning them the right to head to the equestrian koshien. Just those last pages of chapter 108 where Komaba sees the news and immediately gets in a victory pose and screams out "YEAAHHH!!!" ecstatic for the success of his friends as he works hard to follow in their example was amazing and I got the same reaction to that moment as he did. There was so much to love about Silver Spoon this year and as much as it kills me how few chapters of it came out this year it's never disappointed me when it comes to delivering a great chapter every time. I'm looking forward to seeing how, in their final year of High School and with adulthood looming forward, these characters embrace and work with that challenge to achieve their goals and dreams, with the hope that everything works out in spite of the challenges they will no doubt continue to face.

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#5: Kakukaku Shikajika
Chapters: #15-28

Akiko Higashimura's auto-biographical manga about how she became a mangaka is as brutally honest and self-critical as it is side-splittingly hilarious. Yet at it's core it's meant as a moving tribute and reflection on her late mentor and all the regrets she has when she thinks of back then. Painful, heart-breaking, and personal, it's often hard to watch Higashimura as she makes her way in life and how she, eventually, finally was able to achieve her dream of becoming a mangaka in spite of a lot of wasted opportunity but because of a lot of hard work to make up for it. It's a fascinating story and journey that rings true and hits home with any aspiring artist but is no doubt relatable to many people who gone through similar experiences and share similar regrets for the mistakes and missteps of their youth. I applaud Higashimura's bravery in telling this very personal story that she felt she had to tell no matter how painful it was to draw for her, and I look forward to seeing it to it's melancholy conclusion this year.

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#4: REAL
Chapters: #73-80

Volume 13 of REAL is interesting in the fact it is completely focused on one event, the comeback wrestling match of Scorpion Shiratori, in what seems like a detour from the story of our three main characters. However, it not only ended up being a fantastic volume of chapters, but perhaps my favorite volume of REAL up to this point and one of my all-time favorite volumes of manga period. In these chapters we get a lot of backstory on Shiratori and his best friend turned rival Matsuzaka as they worked their way up in the professional wrestling world, but a turn of fate ended up making Shiratori a heel while Matsuzaka became a face, and how that tested their relationship and affected his personal life. This is intermixed with the dramatic match between the two as they brutally duke it out, while Shiratori tries to hide the fact he is crippled and has no use of his legs. Which of course leads to a really creative and intense match as Shiratori pulls out all the stops and tricks in his bag to hide his disability and put up one hell of a match against his old rival and give in a run for his money, in a fight personal, badass, and emotional that I daresay now ranks as one of my all time favorites in the medium. It's a fantastic set of chapters that not only gives great insight to a fascinating supporting character and reveals a surprising connection between him and another, but also in inspiring Hisanobu to have the strength to turn his life around and take up wheelchair basketball. It was just a strong year for the series and produced some of my most favorite from material from it to date, which, considering how great this series has consistently been and how long it's run, is high praise indeed.

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#3: Billy Bat
Chapters: #111-132

After finishing the conflict against Kiyoshi and averting the crisis involving the moon Kevin Yamagata took up the mantle as the official mangaka of Billy Bat but finds that as a consequence of his actions there is an inevitable crisis coming that he is unable to predict and if it isn't stopped the world will surely end. Kevin has other things to worry about as he deigns to find a successor to take his place in order to travel the world and draw something new, and finds a worthy replacement in Timmy, though it remains uncertain if he can truly communicate with the Bat. Because as it stands it seems the only one who can is Jackie, who is being urged by the Bat to meet with Kevin asap and give him an urgent message. Featuring rapid-fire plot development, surprises, and suspense the whole year through, Billy Bat concluded what I'd like to call it's middle-phase of it's story and has begun it's endgame. Which I feel pretty confident about saying considering that things are starting to tie together with the ultimate mystery behind the Bat being slowly brought to light and the big climax to this whole thing going to be preventing 9/11 from happening. You just can't get much bigger than that though I wouldn't be surprised if Urasawa goes even farther. With old faces returning and meeting up and the clock ticking down as everyone tries to figure out what to do, it'll be interesting to see how Urasawa pulls this all together this year and what other surprises he might have in store. But as far as this year goes it was simply phenomenal, with great development for the character arcs of Kevin, Devivie, "Chuck," and Kiyoshi and conclusions to the stories of the latter two to tense conflicts and a pretty dang bold development in the story, Urasawa's writing is as strong as ever and this series continues to be simply excellent on all levels.


Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 08, 2015, 02:08:07 AM
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#2: Princess Jellyfish
Chapters: #65-74

My favorite two chapters of any manga this year came from Princess Jellyfish so as you might guess it had a great year. Tsukimi has been pushed out of her comfort zone as she has to live with the consequences of her decision and survive on her own without her friends beside her for the first time in her life while learning the ropes of the professional fashion industry. Kuranosuke still hasn't given up on her and chases her to Hong Kong to find a way to bring her back, unwittingly starting a career as a model over there. Shu deals with the consequences of his obliviousness to Tsukimi's plight as he wrestles to whether he is truly willing to go the distance and risk his career in order to be with her. And we are given deep insight into the past and character of President Kai and his complicated relationship with clothes and the fashion industry and his disillusionment with his job, searching to find an answer to whether he loves what he does or not. All this among harsh reflections on the difficulty of truly achieving your dreams, the cost of success, whether it's worth it to move up in the world while losing the passion you had for doing what you love and with the people you love, and Tsukimi finding an answer to why she's making clothes while also finding a way to stay true to herself and become resolved to endure her present situation. Fantastic character development alongside powerful themes, phenomenal writing, and a great direction to the story cemented a incredibly strong year for Princess Jellyfish, and I can't wait to see what's in store for it and these characters in 2015.

But for as great as PJ was, there is still one series that boasted a better year. One series that managed to leave more of an impact and provide an even more exciting reading experience. And that series is..NARUTO! Ha ha ha no. Let's not kid ourselves here. You all fucking know what the #1 is, and that's...

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#1: A Silent Voice
Chapters: #20-62

What can I possibly say about this series that I haven't said a bazillion times by now? You know what, I don't think I can. Instead, here is everything that I have said about A Silent Voice before in chronological order:

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QuoteA Silent Voice chapter 44 - Holy fucking shit. This chapter was...wow. Right off this was incredibly potent and emotional stuff when Mrs. Nishimiya bows down to apologize to Shoya's mom for what happened to him. The look on her face pretty much says it all at just how ashamed and guilty she feels that he got hurt trying to save her daughter from committing suicide. God, this has got to be the most vulnerable she's ever been at this point, and it really shows. Moving on, Yuzuru bumping into Sahara and Nagatsuka, who've come to see Shoya, was a short, but nice scene. Shoya thought that he had lost his friends for good, but it's clear to see that these two still care a lot about him and, while they still are uncomfortable about what happened before, they are still there for him at this critical time. And then we get to Ueno and Shoko....holy shit is Ueno a fucking horrible person. She doesn't give a damn about what Shoko might be feeling right now, or how she's ever felt, being a deaf girl trying to fit in and constantly bullied. She beats her up, pulls her hair, and mocks the heartfelt letter she wrote to her where she explains just why she acts the way she does and that she does it for her sister's sake...right in front of Yuzuru, who must feel incredibly guilty about everything going on right now as well. And Shoko just takes the beatings and insults. Hell, she probably feels she deserves it. It's all so goddamn sad. So when Mrs. Nishimiya slaps Ueno right at the end of the chapter it was incredibly satisfying. Mrs. Nishimiya, to this point, has tried to protect her daughter by letting her fight her own battles and moving her from place to place when things don't work out. For her to lose her cool and slap a teenager is an incredibly aggressive and violent action from her (though it's more than justified...I mean, Ueno was beating Shoko half to death...). This chapter was just excellent on so many emotional levels. I've already re-read this one about 5 times already now because it's really that strong of stuff. I'm glad I finally tried and caught up with this series. I look forward to how this situation develops in the next chapter. I really want to see Shoko come to grips with what's happened especially. If there's one thing Ueno said that was true, it's that the poor girl needs to realize there are people who truly care about her and want her around.
QuoteA Silent Voice chapter 45 - Oh wow, Ueno actually felt guilt and regret for her actions. Not only that, but Sahara is still her friend after all of this. I feel that Ueno, selfish and despicable as she can be, does truly want to become a better person, but she's quick to anger and hurting others to relieve her own pain. I hope we see her change her ways before the series is over. But damn, the second half of this chapter, Yuzuru and Mrs. Nishimiya taking down the pictures...reflecting on all that's happened, what they did do, what could have been done, and Shoko coming in and the whole family bursting out in tears...that was a really powerful moment. It seems Shoko now has conviction in her eyes. She's done feeling sorry for herself, and thinking she's a burden. She's going to make things right again. I can't wait to see how.
QuoteA Silent Voice chapter 46 - So Shoko wants to make it up to Shoyo by finishing the movie. Though Ueno has already refused, could she really get back the gang together, and make amends? The interactions between Shoko and Nagatsuka was touching in this chapter. Both of them care about helping Shoyo and clearly have a mutual bond from that, but I think they've become genuine friends themselves, a great development considering they previously were only around each other because of Shoyo. Will they be able to finish the movie? I'd hope so.
QuoteA Silent Voice chapter 47 - It seems like there's going to be a chapter focusing on each member of the group and their reactions to aftermatch of Shoko's attempted suicide/Shoyo's hospitalization. Last week the chapter was focused on Nagatsuka, the week before that it was about Yuzuru. This week's focus is on Sahara, and her doubts as to whether she has really changed as a person. Unlike Shoyo, it never crossed her mind to track down Shoko and make amends or befriend her. She ran away from the situation, her problems, and Shoko, and instead tried to be someone that other people saw her as, and by circumstance, ended up coming to an understanding with Ueno, perhaps out of the desire to let bygones be and start over, or perhaps out of guilt that she saw her as a horrible person, when she herself couldn't do anything, and perhaps because she just wanted approval from those around her. So the question is, did she change as a person through these years, or has she simply been going along with the flow, doing what's convenient and popular to do at the time. But it's pointless for her to think about why she's done what she's done, and instead focus on what she can do right now for the people she cares about. The dress she made for Ueno, to me, symbolizes her desire to be useful to someone, and to be there for someone. Even though Ueno has rejected her, Shoko stops her from throwing the dress away. Shoko tells her they need it. That they need her. She is their friend, she is doing something that's making a difference. She's been helping all this time. Maybe, she would have never talked to Shoko again if it wasn't for Shoyo. Maybe, she wouldn't have been able to run over and risk her life to stop Shoko from jumping to her death. But she can help with this movie, right here, right now, and that will make a difference. 
QuoteA Silent Voice chapter 48 - I'll be honest, I did not expect a chapter about Miki...but wow. Have you ever met a person who has deluded themselves that they are this innocent, model citizen, but in reality is very much a hypocrite and capable of some horrible things, but he/she doesn't realize it and always manages to put a spin on what's happened to put themselves in a victimized or positive light? I certainly know such people, and it can be almost horrifying to see just how far they will twist the facts to make themselves appear saintly and in the right. Typically, you don't see these kinds of characters often in anime/manga. If you do, they are these psychopathic, crazy people, which is not really what I'm talking about, which is more of a "everyday evil" kind of thing. As far as animation/comics in general goes, I'm drawing a blank on many similar characters like this. The closest I can think of is Eric Cartman from South Park. Specifically, if you remember the episode "Fishsticks," you'll remember how Cartman managed to convince himself that he was responsible for the fish dicks joke, when in reality he was only a catalyst for Jimmy to think of it, and you saw the process of how each time Cartman thought of what happened he kept portraying himself in a more active role and heroic light, while Jimmy was increasingly shown to be ineffectual and less involved. In Cartman's mind, the reality of what happened changed to fit his need to be important, and even though Kyle and Jimmy call him out on it, Cartman convinces himself that it is Jimmy who's the one who is deluding himself. It was simply impossible for Cartman to acknowledge that he was taking credit for something he didn't do, because he genuinely believed that he was responsible, and because of his massive ego, the reality of what happened was soon replaced with a more palatable version to suit his delusions of grandeur.

Miki Kawai is exactly the same. She believes she is this cute, kind, model student. She is her class representative, she gets perfect scores, she does plenty of community service. It's clear that she believes she is paradigm of a human being and tries to behave as one. One could say she has a superiority complex, since although she is genial to other people in public, her insistence to help them comes from not just wanting to help, but to show off how smart and kind she is. The first pages of this chapter show her looking at her mirror and thinking about how cute she is. She makes a point to remind Mashiba about the text she sent him about visiting Ishida, not really because she cares about him, but because she wants an excuse to get closer to him and make him fall for how gosh-darn selfless and caring she is. She isn't just satisfied with him knowing that, but the class as well, telling everyone to fold 1000 paper cranes to show their support for Ishida. Why? She'd probably say it's a symbolic gesture of good will. But it's also a completely frivolous act. It will not help Ishida get better. It will not help Ishida feel better. But Kawai is not thinking about that. She's thinking of a way to, yet again, show what a great person she is for thinking of such a "selfless" gesture. What Kawai cares about is the approval of others, and the attention of others. This is why she is head of the class, makes sure she's exceptional at everything she does, and presents herself as this kind, saintly figure. She wants people to notice her and love her as much as she loves herself. And she is eager to know what people think about her. Obsessed. Why else would she be peeing at someone else's phone, focusing on her text?

How does Kawai take criticism of her and her 1000 paper crane plan? Well, she's just confused. After all, she's "worked harder than anyone else," "for the class," and "they all backed her" as class represented. So why would people be mocking her behind her back? She quickly labels herself a victim. She soon attributes their comments as jealousy of her "relationship" with Mashiba. And then she begins to feel she's being bullied. She thinks "oh, this must be how Nishimiya and Sahara felt;" she puts some small criticism of her and her behavior on the same level of Shoko's horrific and often violent bullying and Sahara's complete isolation from school. Both of which, she is quick to forget, she was a part of, and as guilty as anyone else for. She re-remembers the incident where Ishida told her, as a favor, to not tell Mashiba and co. about how he used to bully Shoko in middle school, which she at the time perceived as him threatening her, and publicly shamed him in front of the entire group, the event that destroyed the movie making group, left Nishimiya alone once again and ridden with guilt for what happened, which caused her to try to commit suicide, which led to Ishida saving her at the cost of himself, leaving him in the condition he is in now. But Kawai doesn't think about it that way. She just thinks that "oh, Ishida has been punished for what he's done to me, maybe I should forgive him...a little." She's already manipulated the facts, to portray her as a helpless victim who has suffered just as much as Nishimiya, whereas in reality she was one of the biggest bullies of both her and Ishida, who she now thinks as someone in need of her forgiveness. In Kawai's mind, everything is about her and everything is like how believes it is. And she is always blameless. And if she can't blame Ishida because he's in the hospital, or Shoko because she's been bullied, who else is left but her own best friend, Nao, who she quickly turns on. And notice how she plays the poor victim act in front of Mashiba, tells her she's being bullied with a little sob, and tells him the name of the girl who wrote the text criticizing her so that he can "do something about it." She casually passes off the task of revenge to another person, to absolve herself of any blame. This way she keeps her reputation intact, humiliates and isolates her perceived enemies, and stays on top and as popular as ever. I doubt she even realizes how manipulative that is. But she's probably incapable of even considering that.

If anything clinches the "Kawai is a self-centered bitch" thing it's that she completely ignores what Shoko wants to do, finish the movie, and belittles her idea while going on what she believes to be a motivational speech but is really a self-pitying rant. Furthermore, now that she believes "Nao is bad," she is quick to antagonize her. She firmly believes that Nao is the bad guy here, but Nao, while a despicable in her won right for how she's treated Shoko all this time, genuinely cares about Ishida's well-being and recognizes that her actions were wrong, and while she won't admit it, she feels guilty about it. Nao doesn't hide behind pretense. She does what she feels. But all Kawai cares about is keeping up her image of being a model student. She has no genuine interest in anyone else but herself, and she is not capable of thinking of herself in a negative light, or contemplate on her own actions. So here we have two very different everyday life villains. One who isn't afraid to admit who she is, the other completely unaware. And now they are face to face with each other, a tense confrontation soon to turn to a shouting match. And it's anyone's guess where it will lead. Once again, A Silent Voice has the best chapter of the week. Easily.
QuoteA Silent Voice chapter 49 - I was expecting a shouting match between Ueno and Kawai, but that wasn't the focus of the chapter. Though, we got an amazing scene where Ishida's mom meets Shoko, and can't find anything to say to her, and instead walks away, telling Yuzuru that they can talk once Ishida recovers. But the real meat of the chapter was learning more about Mashiba and seeing him come to terms with himself and the incident this week. And it seems he isn't the confident, upstanding man he appears to be. His motivations, in fact, had been very skewed, dreaming to become a teacher solely to punish the children of those who bullied him, and hanging around Ishida to make himself feel more normal in comparison. However, Ishida's selfless actions have left him thinking about what kind of person he really is and makes him feel guilty and ashamed. Unlike Kawai, who immediately pulls a 180 and agrees to finish the movie only because Mashiba agreed to help, Mashiba genuinely wants to be a better person, and has been encouraged to change his ways following Ishida's example, apologizing to the teacher he beat up in order to help Shoko be able to film at the school. I appreciate this look at Mashiba, and it seems next week, we'll be coming back to Ueno. I wonder if she'll be able to suck up her pride and change her ways too? 
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A Silent Voice chapter 50 - This chapter featured a great exploration into Ueno's character: why she likes Ishida, why she hates Shoko, and why she behaves the way she does. I find it interesting, and realistic, and Ueno doesn't change her mind about Shoko and join the movie project. There's plenty of people who simply can't let grudges go. But it was nice that she does end up helping her anyway, giving her the number for a sound production team, after being won over bu Shoko's determination. I don't know if this is the last we'll see of Ueno, but if it was, it was a good resolution to that conflict and her character arc.
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Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 08, 2015, 02:08:39 AM
NOTE: Turns out I wrote A LOT about A Silent Voice. This is going to be a multi-post thing...

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QuoteA Silent Voice chapter 51 - This was a fantastic look into Shoko's perspective and how she perceives her surroundings, as well as her regrets for how things turned out and her longing for a normal, happy childhood. Very moving, powerful stuff. I'm a bit confused as to where Shoko is going at the end of the chapter. In the dream she had it seemed Ishida was going to die. Maybe she's going to visit him again. That could lead a very emotional moment, especially if Ishida wakes up soon.
QuoteA Silent Voice chapter 52 - Oh man, this was a powerful chapter. Completely wordless until the end, as Shoko runs towards the balcony where she almost tried to commit suicide and reflects on everything that's happened, and then runs to the bridge where she and Shoya used to meet, and then breaks down in tears. And then, at the same time she does, Shoya finally rewakens in the hospital. Moving stuff. I can't wait to see their reunion next week.
QuoteA Silent Voice chapter 53 - I honestly was expecting the reunion of Shoya and Shoko to be a bit more dramatic, but as it is it made for a sweet scene where they realize the other is okay and become elated. I also enjoyed the sequence at the beginning of the chapter where Shoya has a "what-if" dream, mirroring that of Shoko's last week. Both of them regret the way things turned out back then, and no doubt they would have been different if Shoko wasn't deaf and Shoya hadn't been desperate for attention. Of course, those past mistakes have made them close to each other in the present, and luckily, that bond prevented either one of them from doing harm to themselves. Of course Shoya was injured trying to stop Shoko from committing suicide, but he's alright now, and now that they both have in each other somebody willing to go to any lengths to protect/help each other, they can start leaving behind their regrets and self-depreciating thoughts and start moving forward and living happier lives. Since the plan was to make the movie in order to support Shoya's recovery, I wonder how that will change now that he is out of his coma? Certainly, there are still amends and loose ends that need to be tied up, and I'm sure the project will still move forward, with Shoya's involvement now that he's recovered. Since the series is ending on November 12th, there should still be around 7 or so chapters of the series left at this point, so I'm eager to see how everything will be resolved from this point in that remaining time. 
QuoteA Silent Voice chapter 54 - A wonderfully touching reunion between Shoko and Shoya, where Shoya tells her that she helped him find new happiness in his life, and that while he doesn't know what he can do to make her happy, he wants to continue trying, and wants her to continue to help him become a better person. A great scene and dialogue, and a strong emotional conclusion to the development of their relationship throughout the story. It makes me wonder just what could possibly be left to show for the next six or so weeks before the series ends, but I'm sure it will continue to be a solid, rewarding denouement.
QuoteA Silent Voice chapter 56

- Per usual, first up is A Silent Voice! After the wonderful reconciliation between Shoya and Shoko's mothers last week, I expect this week will continue showing more resolutions between the characters.

- Oh man, so Shoya has decided to go back to school. How are people going to treat him, after knowing what he's been through? I remember some were doubting that he really saved Shoko, and postulated that he actually tried to push her off the balcony himself, and others still felt indifferent to his plight. Though he's made tremendous strides in becoming a better person and has been through so much to make amends, this previous reputation as an awkward, mean-spirited bully still lingers. He still has a long way to go before he's able to wipe his slate clean. I'm sure, though, that with the help of the people who truly know the kind of person he is, the people who proudly call themselves his friends, will help him accomplish that.

- Yeah, he is really, really nervous. I feel for him. He really wants to change people's perceptions of him, apologize for what he's done in the past. One thing that hits home for me here is him practicing trying to talk to people, because that's something I, personally, still have trouble with. I can really sympathize with him trying to learn how to be more sociable, and make a better impression on people.

- I also love his resolve to not only talk to more people, but to listen to them as well, no matter what they have to say. He's come a long way from the beginning of the series.

- It looks like their going to see Nagatsuka's movie. I was thinking there'd be a few more chapters until that, but that's interesting. Shoya's reaction to it is bound to be very emotional.

- X faces! Wow, we haven't seen those in a while. I guess most of his classmates still feel distant and alien from him.

- Oh Shoya...I feel ya man. But you can't just avoid the problem any longer. You got to keep your head up.

- D'aw...Shoko pulling Shoya around is as adorable as it is hilariously awkward.  :D

- Oh geez, Nagatsuka's movie is fucking dark. And really, really relevant to what Shoko and Shoya have been through. Damn.

- What, Kawai wrote this? I'm as surprised as Shoya. I guess that proves the point that you can never know what they can be truly capable of or the mark of their character unless you really try and get to know them better. Though, in Kawai's case, I don't think her rotten behavior can be forgiven, especially since she's oblivious about it. It'll be interesting to see how Shoya deals with her when they meet again.

- Way to get everyone's attention, Shoya. Oh god, the look on his face. Painful. You can tell he's overwhelmed and uncomfortable with everyone's else being on him. Not only that, but notably, none of them have their faces crossed out. Shoya sees their faces. They see his. He has to deal with other people again; it's now or never. What will he do? What can he say? What will they do? What will they say? God dammit, A Silent Voice, why must you tug at my heartstrings so!
QuoteA Silent Voice chapter 57 - I was wondering how things would resolve themselves, how Shoya would be able to face and apologize to these people he wants to consider friends. At the beginning of the series Shoya did not recognize people, much less get to know them, but as he started mending his ways through Shoko, he started to gain a circle of friends around him. Yet, even then, he never tried to get close to them or know them better, and was just content to be around them after all this time, having been friend-less for so many years. But as time went on, he did begin to notice things about these people, and what makes them who they are. But, after seeing the movie, he realized that there is still so, so much he still has yet to know about them as well. And he wants to get to know them better. I think the one character that surprised me here was Kawaii. She's still oblivious, and I felt she shouldn't have been forgiven quite as easily, but it also seems she genuinely felt bad that she didn't get enough people to make paper cranes to celebrate Shoya's release from the hospital. It seems there are still sides to her personality that we hadn't seen, but should get to know. The same for everyone else, and Shoya knows this now. I loved each personal reconciliation Shoya had with each of the characters, as one by one there faces became clear, and Shoya was able to see them for the people they were again. And, I loved, LOVED the ending of the chapter, where Shoya has finally decided to open up to people, embrace the good and bad things about them and whatever they might think of him, with all the "X's" falling off their faces one by one as he hears all their voices. Brilliant, emotional stuff all the way through. This honestly felt like it should have been the second to last chapter, in the way. It makes me wonder what the next four chapters will be about. Knowing this series, though, they are bound to be great ones.
QuoteA Silent Voice chapter 58 - The group worked so hard on the movie...only for it to be bashed as "pretentious," the judges not understanding the genuine nature and motives behind the project, and every single aspect about their movie was mercilessly picked apart. It was painful to read. They put into a lot of effort into the movie, thought what they made was great, but even so other people hated it. Yet, as Shoya tries to say, that shouldn't let them get them down. They don't need to care about what those assholes said about it. It was a rushed project, there were some rough edges, but they accomplished something together, and they had fun doing it, and it meant a lot to the person they were making it for. They'll just do it even better next time, and show people what they can really do. It was a great moment. And the icing on the cake was the whole group going to have dinner together, laughing and joking around as friends. It's all so emotionally rewarding considering the trials these characters have gone through, and how they've now found good friends they can be comfortable being themselves with. Seeing Shoko laugh and smile, for the first time in a long, long while, almost brought a tear to my eye, just how it does Yuzuru's. Another beautiful, wonderful chapter.
QuoteA Silent Voice chapter 59 - And so now the characters are preparing the move into a new transition in their lives. Shoya is afraid to lose the friends he's made, particularly Nishimiya, and refuses to accept her decision to move to Tokyo. But he has to realize that it's time for everyone to move on, including himself. Will he follow Nishimiya to Tokyo? Perhaps. No matter where he goes, though, he should be fine. He's no longer afraid to get to know other people.
QuoteA Silent Voice chapter 60 - Aw...so Shoya ended up making Shoko feel wary about moving to Tokyo, and he feels so awful about it. And he just keeps wondering: What am I going to do? Not just with this situation, but with his life. It's re-enforced during his meet-up with his Nagatsuka and co., where they all have plans for the future and, while not all them know what they want to do in life, they are going to do what they want to do. (On that note, I love how Mashiba doesn't dissuade Kawai from following him to the same college he goes to and how nonchalantly he says he likes her...third best after children. And then Nagatsuka's like "ah, she's pretty high. I like kids too." That was a wonderfully funny moment.) But, what does Shoya want to do? That's what he's trying to figure out. For so much of his life he was just miserable and going through the motions. Then he finally found purpose in making amends with Nishimiya and helping her find friends and being a friend to her. But that job's done now. She's found a goal and is ready to move on with her life, and Shoya needs to find one too. But right now he feels he's held her back by making her reconsider her decision to move to Tokyo. And so that scene with Yuzuru...man, it's just so nice to see how their relationship is now compared to when they first met, and how they both feel about Shoko's decision: sad that she would be out of their lives for a bit, but at the same time knowing that it's for the best she leaves to do what she wants. And so Shoya sends a text telling her to go for it after all, and Yuzuru plans to work hard to make sure her sister wont stay behind because she's worried about her. And so what does Shoya do now? What does he become now? That's the question the final two chapters should be sure to answer, and I can't wait to see what it is.
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Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 08, 2015, 02:08:53 AM
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QuoteA Silent Voice chapter 61 - Such great character resolution here between Shoya and Ueno. First Shoya revealing that he's decided to stay at home and work to take over the family business. Then Ueno telling him that Shoko also wants to be a hairdresser. Tying things together with the beginning of the series with Shoya learning that it was Shimada and Hirose who rescued him, which segues way into Ueno finally apologizing to Shoya for turning on him and bullying him when they were kids, which leads into Ueno acknowledging her own self-hatred for her actions and her inability to like Shoko even after everything that's happened, which leads into Shoya acknowledging what happened to him that caused him to get estranged from his old friends was his fault, which leads into Shoya encouraging Ueno that because she recognizes her faults she has the ability to change herself...oh my god so perfect. Just perfect. And then everybody graduating, Shoya saying his farewells to Nishimiya...yeah everything was just fantastic here. So, so, so satisfying. I will be so sad when this series ends next week. At the same time, though, I'm looking forward to it, because after all of this, the conclusion is bound to be very, truly satisfying.
QuoteA Silent Voice chapter 62 - And so it's come to this. The final chapter of A Silent Voice. Man, what a ride. What a wonderful ride. I started keeping up with this series right when the chapter where Shoya fell and became injured after stopping Nishimiya from committing suicide happened. That was really good timing, because I basically was able to see how the entire last act of the story, the part where every major character reflected on their actions, who they were as people, and what they wanted out of life, and how they all came together as a group of friends united by one goal, and how they all grew as people from this experience, as they head out towards adulthood and whatever future awaits them. Every week was a great and enjoyable surprise as each character got dissected as things slowly came together and the layers behind each character was exposed and developed. I had no clue where the story would go, but the way things were handled didn't disappoint me, and overall, out of the 19 chapters I read each week since I caught up on the series, 15 of them were my #1 favorite manga chapter of the week, and even in the weeks they weren't, they still were 10/10 chapters and in the top 3. And, as a whole, the series was just that well-written and strong throughout the course of it's run. It was like few manga I've ever read or kept up with, in tone and content, and for what could have just been a lame PSA or serviceable love story, it was so much more than that; a great coming of age story, as well as a look on people who were victims of bullying, suffering from disabilities, among a myriad of other topics.

And this final chapter was a fantastic way to end that story. I noticed some people didn't like the ending, but these people seemed to only be reading this manga for the romance between Shoya and Shoko. Which was really missing the point of the manga to begin with. Not to say that they didn't grow a romantic interest in each other as the series went on, but that wasn't the focus of the story or the most meaningful aspect of their relationship with each other. Shoya and Shoko were both people who, at the start of this series, felt alone, a burden on others, and people who might as well not even exist and thought their families would be better off if they were. But through each other they found someone who cared about them and would reach out to help them. They found other people who befriended them and cared about them as well. They became even closer with their own families. And they bettered themselves as people. Shoya became more open and able to talk with other people after having been ostrachized from them for so long. Shoko gained more confidence in herself and learned that it's okay for her to prioritize what she wanted to do and she wasn't just a burden on other people. Shoya and Shoko helped each other grow and mature as people. They helped each other find reasons to go on, and find things they wanted to do and goals they wanted to accomplish. They gave each other a future. So the last page of this manga, the two holding hands and going through those doors together, though uncertain of what lies in store for them, is purposeful; it symbolizes them embracing the uncertain future that lies in store for them with confidence, which they can do because each is there for each other. That, to me, is a far more emotional and meaningful reflection on the nature of their relationship than a mere kiss could be, and is much more in line with what this story was about and what it represented, and what these characters went through and what they mean to each other. It's a well though-out and strong ending that closes this series off on all the right notes, and there is really few ways I could see it being improved on that aren't superfluous.

A Silent Voice was a fantastic manga. With the series over I can say that it is easily one of my favorite manga. I got so much out of this story, it's themes, it's characters, and the experience of reading that last third on a week to week basis and the overall quality and construction of the story was tight and well-executed through and through. I applaud it as one of few manga, especially nowadays, that could tell a story so untraditional and un-mainstream like this, and not only have it be quite successful on the sheer grounds of it's quality, but also know exactly when to stop, and to have a direction and conclusion it worked towards not dragged down or stretched out for the sake of extending the series past what it needed to. Few manga simply end telling a complete story in such a short amount of time and with no extraneous parts like this, especially these days, and that just makes this series stand out even more. I love this manga, and it's going to be a bit of a downer to no longer reading it every week now, but all the same, I'm glad it came out the way it did and ended the way it did too. I look forward to reading Oima's next work, and I hope it comes soon. And if you haven't read ASV yet...seriously, do it. You'll enjoy it.
Quote#2: A Silent Voice chapter #45: "It Was All For Nothing?"

When I started making this list, by far the hardest part was figuring out which chapter of A Silent Voice I should include. If I was being totally honest and not just limiting this list to a one chapter per series representation, then A Silent Voice chapters would take up, like, around half the slots if not just most of them. Of course, as I said before, I thought that would be lame, so I didn't do that. Still, that meant that I could only choose one chapter from the series for this list, and how was I supposed to go about doing that? Figuring out which chapter had the most impact or was the best and most memorable and whatnot? When I was reading through the series before I got caught up to it the whole story flowed so smoothly and effectively that I couldn't really pick out a standout chapter from that portion of it. And then when I did get caught up to it, every week reading this series was pretty much like that. It had the best chapter of the week pretty much every week. It continually had standout, strong moments that impressed me. So thinking about all that, which chapter could I really say left the most impact on me?

I ended up thinking about when I started keeping up with the series - the chapter where Shoya fell while preventing Shoko's suicide (what a chapter to end off getting caught up with, right?), and then I thought about how I felt about the series after reading that, and all the questions I was asking myself. "Holy shit, did they just do that?", "How is this going to play out?" ", "Is he really going to die?" , among others, but most importantly, I was wondering to myself, "Will this series do this right?" After a big moment like that, I was both curious and worried. It was a delicate, volatile direction it was taking. One misstep in the plotting or the handling of the characters and the themes , and the story could sour horribly. And so I entered keeping up to the series on a weekly basis with a lot of concerns. I wanted this story to be a success, and not end without fulfilling that potential. I had high hopes, but I've been burned before, so I was keeping my expectations in check, trying not to get too excited or confident about it. But very quickly, my concerns were dashed, and never arose again. The rest you know by now. But what was that moment? That moment where I could be confident this series would turn out right? To be honest, I'm not sure if I can say exactly when it was. It might have been earlier, it might have been later, but when I think about the series, this is one of the moments that always sticks out to me the most. And it came right around the time I started keeping up with the series too. It wasn't the first chapter I read when I started keeping up with it, technically, but it was one of the first, and it was certainly a moment that left me very optimistic for it's future.

There are many parts to this chapters that struck me well. First was seeing Ueno finally get physically reprimanded for being such an asshole to everyone, particularly after she beat up Shoko in the previous chapter. The fact that it was Mrs. Nishimiya, who you would never expect to go that far, especially against a child, who was slapping her around for what she did to her daughter made it even more satisfying (I especially loved the fact she did it while maintaining her usual stoic expression, which makes another moment that happens later in the chapter all the more powerful). It was great seeing Ueno finally get called out on and hurt as much as she's hurt others, but what's really great about it to me is the aftermath. Seeing Ueno cry and recognize that she's done a horrible thing. The idea that she is aware that the way she's behaving and the way she has been treating others is wrong, but how despite that she does it anyway and won't stop. It added a lot of depth to a character that had some visible nuances before, and would set up a good study of her character further down the line.

But the most potent content in this chapter is in the second half, focusing on the Nishimiya family and how they are processing and dealing with what's just happened. When Ueno asks Yuzuru why she didn't stop her, she responds by saying she didn't know if that was the right thing to do. Because all this time, she's done what she thought was the right thing to do to protect her sister. She kept her away from people who might harm her. She stood up for her. When she saw her feelings for Ishida she tried to bring the two closer together. She did everything she could do to make her sister happy. Every day since that day where Shoko first tried and failed to commit suicide and said she wanted to die, she tried her best to make it so she wouldn't feel that way again. Even her hobby of taking pictures of dead and decayed things was done to dissuade Shoko from dying too. But none of that worked. All those years she tried to make her happy were pointless. She still tried to kill herself. She would have died if Ishida wasn't there to stop her. So what right does she have to criticize Ueno's way of trying to get Shoko to her sense when what she tried didn't work in the first place? What was the point of anything she's done for her if it didn't stop her thinking like that, and for almost going through with that again? And so she goes home and starts tearing down the photos she's plastered all over the wall. They didn't help. The message she was sending to her didn't get through. They're meaningless. Her mother helps her. And she thinks to herself "Should I have just told her her "don't die?", "What would Ishida have done?", "What should I have done?" And then Shoko walks into the room. And the whole family just looks at each other for a moment. And then, backs turned to one another, they all start to cry.

But it was a cleansing cry. Afterwards, Shoko heads out. She's no longer weak, timid, or shy. She's confident. Determined. She knows what she needs to do. She will take the initiative. She will repay what Ishida has done for her. She will make things right again. And Yuzuru sees her like this, and she's able to smile. The time for feeling sorry for herself is over. The time to dwell on regrets and "what if's" have long past. What's important is what happens now. How she makes use of this second chance she has. What she can do for someone who she owes her life to. This chapter marks a huge turning point for Shoko's character arc, and sets the stage for the following chapters exploring each of the main characters, and their reactions to what's happened and as they come together again to finish the movie in support of Ishida. In addition, it's a fantastic look into the characters of Ueno and Yuzuru, and the relationship between the Nishimiya family. While much of the chapter focuses on self-loathing and regrets, at the very end, there is a light of hope. Optimism for a brighter future. A future that Shoko is determined to make happen. It's a moving moment for characters that have been through so much, and it was a moment where, despite myself, I felt that this series' future was secure. A feeling that I ended up being justified for having in the end.

Most of A Silent Voice's entire run was printed in 2014. To rank this chapter on my list might imply that I'd consider this the best chapter in the series. Is it? Maybe, maybe not. I couldn't say. Like I said, it was hard thinking about which chapter of the series I wanted on this list. I had so many to choose from, and so many I could justify making it on here instead of this one. But I chose it because I really do feel it was a turning point in the series. Not just for the story or a few characters' character arcs, but for my impressions and expectations for it going into it's final chapters as well. And it provided a powerful, memorable moment that has stuck with me ever since I've read it, among other elements that I find as appreciable if not more so since then. So yeah, feel free to disagree with me, but chapter 45 of A Silent Voice is my choice for it's best chapter this year and the #2 best in manga overall.
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TL; DR: A Silent Voice is a fantastic manga. Read it.

Well, that's my picks for the top manga of 2014. It was a good year of manga and I have good hopes that 2015 will be even better. Hope you liked reading it and the 12 days posts and could agree with the choices you knew from each. And though I've slacked on it for over a month I will resume my weekly manga recaps soon enough, so look forward to that as well. In the meantime, feel free to comment on this list and share your thoughts on the best (or worst) manga of last year.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 08, 2015, 06:10:06 PM
Here is a recent poll where fans list the seinin manga series that they think most deserve a sequel: (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2015-01-07/fans-vote-for-the-seinen-manga-series-that-most-deserve-a-sequel/.83007)

1. Initial D (Shuuichi Shigeno) 12.5%
2. Dragon Zakura (Norifusa Mita) 9.5%
3. 20th Century Boys (Naoki Urasawa) 9.0%
4. Iry? - Team Medical Dragon (Akira Nagai/ Tar? Nogizaka) 8.5%
5. Parasyte (Hitoshi Iwaaki) 8.0%
6. GANTZ (Hiroya Oku) 7.0%
7. Maison Ikkoku (Rumiko Takahashi) 6.0%
8. Akira (Katsuhiro Otomo) 6.0%
9. Naniwa Kin'yudo (Yuuji Aoki) 5.5%
10. The Silent Service (Kaiji Kawaguchi) 4.0%
11. Moteki (Mitsurou Kubo) 4.0%
12. MONSTER (Naoki Urasawa) 4.0%

Interesting choices. I personally don't think that 20th Century Boys, Monster, Parasyte, or Akira really need sequels but I could see potential in stories set in the same universe for the former two. However, I do think a Maison Ikkoku sequel could really work well, either focusing on Godai and Kyoko adjusting to married life and/or centering it on their daughter, Haruka, as she grows into adulthood, or even showing what happened to Yagami and how she finally moved on with her life. Of the possibilities, though, I really do think a lot of people would love to see a sequel with Haruka as the main character. I hope Takahashi could consider doing it after she ends Rin-ne.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 09, 2015, 12:23:57 PM
I don't really want any of them to continue. I'm fine with the ending they have.

As a matter of fact, I can't think of any manga I would like a sequel to. Most of them have good enough endings on their own or went on too long as it is.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 09, 2015, 01:00:30 PM
I can't think of any series I absolutely would want a sequel to, but there are a few that if a sequel was made I wouldn't mind and would happily read.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 09, 2015, 10:07:25 PM
Weekly Manga Recap's 2014 year in review recap is up. (http://blip.tv/hilarios-productions/weekly-manga-recap-2014-7138180)

I agree with most of their opinions on the series they covered, namely on One Piece, Toriko, and even World Trigger (though I didn't and still don't love it nearly to the same extent as them and preferred Soma on the whole, though I understand why they weren't able to appreciate that series as much considering they hadn't read much of it before it was added into the english Jump. The one thing I disagree with them with is about Sins being just okay since I really liked the last arc quite a bit, but I do agree it hasn't become especially notable as far as battle shonen series go yet either.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Markness on January 11, 2015, 09:53:03 AM
Nanatsu no Taizai is definitely more than okay, IMO. Not only has it become my favorite ongoing shounen manga but one of my most favorite mangas in general. I like how Nakaba Suzuki favors experienced protagonists instead of putting them through dozens of training arcs and he never seems to run out of character inspiration, even with his side characters.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 14, 2015, 11:49:23 PM
I was waiting for this one. This week the Weekly Manga Recap guys discussed REAL (http://blip.tv/hilarios-productions/weekly-manga-recap-real-7140966)!

I agree with most of their assessments on the series, even with some of the criticisms they had, and am glad they really enjoyed it overall. One thing that I did disagree with is that I personally didn't think Takahashi took quite as long to become sympathetic as they made it out to be, but I can see why it would take some people more time considering how much of a douche he was in the beginning of the series. I was also surprised that Chris didn't care for Shiratori's arc, but at least Nick seemed like he really dug it (I thought it was great, myself).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 15, 2015, 08:00:38 AM
It's great to see them finally take a look at this manga.

I'll have to listen to the podcast whenever I can manage to get some actual Wi-Fi to use.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on January 19, 2015, 12:40:22 AM
It seems that The Seven Deadly Sins is a third of the way done (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-01-19/the-seven-deadly-sins-manga-1st-of-3-planned-arcs-ends/.83434)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 19, 2015, 07:35:04 AM
Doesn't surprise me, but it's good to know Nakaba has a plan for the series and an endgame in mind.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 19, 2015, 09:22:03 AM
In celebration of their third anniversary, Viz's Weekly Shonen Jump is offering the next 4 issues of it's publication free, starting with today's issue. (http://shonenjump.viz.com/blog/posts/free-weekly-shonen-jump)

This is neat, since it allows me to keep up to date with Gakkyu Hotei for a month since no one has translated any more chapters of that since the first one, as well as read the new Shokugeki no Soma and World Trigger chapters on time since the translators have been late on those for a while recently. Getting to read the bonus content in the magazine and participate in the rating is a plus too.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 23, 2015, 07:38:56 PM
New promo for the Rin-ne anime. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-01-23/rumiko-takahashi-rin-ne-tv-anime-streams-1st-promo/.83619)

Not much to say since so little was shown, but I think Rinne's voice fits quite well. It's also nice to see Kappei Yamaguchi in the cast, and playing Sabato no less. I hope the next promo shows off some of the other characters, though. I really want to know if they'll put Kain, Oboro, Kurosu, Suzu, Renge, Left & Right, Matsugo, etc. in the show. All of them take over 50-100+ chapters to appear in the manga, but they are easily some of the better and funnier supporting characters in the series (Jumonji and Ageha are so laaammmeeee) and tend to be a part of the better stories in the series. I'd really rather they just skip around to all the best parts of the manga than try to adapt it in order, since there are so many boring "Rinne and Sakura solve supernatural problem of the week" stories in the series that would be no less boring animated, and since this adaption is only going to be two-cours they might as well just do the most interesting stuff. That's basically the only way this adaption will be really worthwhile to me.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 23, 2015, 08:03:11 PM
You know, sometimes I have to remind myself when I'm reading a shonen. In this week's chapter of Magi, I was intrigued by the possibility of Alibaba playing the politics game with Hakryuu, trying to carefully avoid direct conflict with him, but then the chapter ends with Hakryuu wanting to fight because he's still in "1-Dimensionally Evil Sasuke-Clone" mode. It's funny, because in any other shonen, I'd probably be fine with that, but Magi has such a great set-up with all of its world-building that it just seems capable of far more interesting things than typical one-on-one fights.

Then again, I shouldn't be too surprised, since the series has basicslly been falling short of its potential since the beginning, outside of the Magnostadt arc. I don't know, maybe I just need to look at it differently, but even as a standard battle shonen series, it still only ever strikes me as decent, but falling short of being something more unique and interesting.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 23, 2015, 08:30:18 PM
No, fuck that. It doesn't matter if it's shonen. I hate it when people say "oh, it's just a shonen/shojo so it's okay for this [insert lame writing] happened." Bad writing is bad writing and the whole Hakuryuu thing is shit writing pure and simple. It's shit because the character's turn into this state was done abruptly and unconvincingly within the course of two chapters in a ridiculously over the top way, and it ruined what could have potentially been a more interesting and nuanced character. Instead he's just become a one-dimensional Sasuke-esque caricature who is now irrationally out to kill his former friends and family just because he just subconsciously needs an object to redirect his pent up rage towards the world now that Gyokuen is (supposedly) dead, a concept which could've been developed in an effective way, but hasn't.

Seriously, what happened to Magi and Toriko? Both were my favorite weekly manga at the beginning of last year, sorta fizzled in the middle of the year but were still okay, and then they just suddenly took a massive dive in quality around the same time in the last few months and are now meh as fuck. It's really disappointing.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 23, 2015, 09:55:42 PM
I wasn't insinuating that battle shonen aren't capable of better story-telling. I was stating that it was foolish of me to still expect more from Magi when it has constantly fallen short of its potential in the past, IMO (keep in mind, I was never as big of a fan of it as you or Dalek, Magnostadt aside). That doesn't mean that I was excusing the poor writing quality or calling it good, but rather I was saying that I really shouldn't expect any more from this series at this point because I've already given it more than enough time to redeem itself, and it failed my expectations.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 25, 2015, 10:49:41 AM
So, I haven't been doing my weekly manga recaps for a while now. I just got really swamped with a lot of work in the beginning of last december, so I didn't get to write about any of the chapters that month. I felt bad about that, so in the first installment of my Monthly Manga Roundup for the blog,  I decided to cover all of the manga chapters that were released last month (http://animationrevelation.com/readables/?p=3695). Yes, I'm well aware that January itself is almost over by this point, but I didn't want to leave talking about that stuff as unfinished business. However, I plan for the January installment to be on-time, likely being put up either this weekend or early next week.

Those of you who've been reading my weekly recaps might notice that I'm no longer doing a ranking of all the series at the end of it. I just felt the whole scoring and ranking thing was too arbitrary, as my scoring tendencies rarely made use of the full spectrum. I also felt it just wasn't the most useful way to highlight what I liked most in manga or how good I thought something is, since even though it was all supposed to be relative, how close or how far I thought something was in enjoyment or quality couldn't really be measured. While this was fine for a forum post, I didn't think it would be appropriate for a blog series where I was trying to be more critical and unbiased towards things. As such, I don't plan on doing those anymore for the Roundups for the blog, though I may still do them in this thread just for the heck of it. As for the weeks I missed, I might put up my rankings for those later today or tomorrow.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 26, 2015, 12:14:06 PM
So, this week Viz' Shonen Jump made the following announcement:

(https://40.media.tumblr.com/d075f6b00fcea593bb94a5c532e5d10c/tumblr_nisqc4v55M1r6toezo1_1280.jpg)

Cool news! MHA has been very entertaining so far and I know a lot of people have been wanting to see Viz license it. It's great that it'll now be getting legal exposure via Viz's Jump.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 27, 2015, 01:09:26 PM
Now that I've caught up on Haikyu!! I'm keeping up with every major currently-running Weekly Shonen Jump series (excluding the stuff that hasn't been translated into english). Finally! Honestly, I think Jump's current line-up is actually quite good. The only real bad series I'm currently reading of theirs is Bleach. Nisekoi is at worst just mediocre, and while Toriko hasn't been great lately, outside of last month it hasn't become terrible either. Everything else is pretty solid and while some series have weaker weeks more often than others, they are all quite good for the most part. It's hard to really compare them, though, since some are so much longer than others and had really great stretches but aren't as strong now and stuff, but if I were to compare them based on how good I thought they were in 2014, in order of favorite to least favorite, I'd go:

Excellent:

Assassination Classroom - I've wrote about why I've really enjoyed this series' output last year multiple times at length. It's been very impressive and the story and characters have developed in fantastic ways and it's one of the weekly series I look most forward to reading these days
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Shokugeki no Soma - Incredibly fun the whole year through with no mediocre chapters to speak of. Fantastic cooking manga. 

Gintama - Honestly should probably be #1, but the fact there are still whole chunks of the series I haven't read yet did admittedly weaken how powerful certain moments in the series this year should have been for me. The fact that this is still #3 should tell you how great I still thought it was even despite that, though.

Good:

World Trigger - I'm not sure if I'll ever be in love with it as much as the WMR guys are, but I do think the "Invasion" arc was very impressive and the series showed it could use it's large cast in interesting ways and have tense fights that operate on careful strategies and well-organized teamwork, a welcome refresher from the one-on-one power battles pervading most battle-shonen these days.

My Hero Academia - One of the best starts I've ever seen for a shonen series. It didn't waste any time to establish it's essential characters and their personalities, insecurities, and motivations well, then move right into an intense arc that had personal issues on the line, started to develop the characters further and expand the world and cast, and in addition it has a unique style and execution to it that sets it apart from it's contemporaries. I'd say it's overnight success and popularity is well-deserved.

Hinomaru Zumo - Another series with a strong start. I really enjoy all the core characters so far, Hinomaru's intelligence and confidence especially making for a refreshing and likable protagonist, and the action is really well-drawn and exciting. I honestly got more out of it's first 14 chapters than I have out of reading 140 chapters of Haikyu!

Average:

One Piece - The hit and miss nature of the series last year, alongside some annoying issues with how Oda treated certain characters, developed certain plot points, and the overall messiness of the chapters in how much content is juggled in them these days, did really grate on me. But that said, there were about as many really strong chapters as there were mediocre ones. There were a lot of really good moments in the series last year too, and Law's flashback especially was phenomenal. It wasn't a great year for OP, but all things considered it wasn't a terrible one either.

PSI Kusuo Saiki - Technically the chapters of this series translated last year were not released in 2014, but whatever. I really like the character of Saiki and there is a lot of really great humor in this series which, in spite of it's weak artwork, makes it stand out as a really fun gag manga. I would really love to read it more regularly, if only the translators would put it out faster.

Haikyu!! - I just read through all of what Haikyu!! put out last year in the last two-three days, and I honestly could only tell you maybe two or so moments that really impressed or stuck out to me in the whole stretch. It's an enjoyable and solid sports manga with decent characters overall, but fairly average for the genre and just has not produced enough impressive material to endear itself to me on a level where I'm really invested in it on more than just a casual level. 

Below Average:

Toriko - The last 4 months have really dragged it down, but it was still really good in the first 2/3rds of the year. I really hope it can return to form.

Hunter X Hunter - Kurapika finally came back. Ging and Pariston had some cool moments. Otherwise, what we got from HXH was mostly just set-up for things to pay off later in the arc, but as of now all of it by itself wasn't that entertaining to read and oftentimes kind of a drag. HXH is usually slow at the beginning of it's arcs and there was so little of it put out last year anyways, but there's no way I could say it was remotely better last year than just about anything else in the magazine.

Nisekoi - It's not a bad series, but it's such an average and stereotypical shonen romcom/harem type of series that's been done a million times to death and easily better elsewhere. There were quite a few funny chapters, and the series is capable of those, but most were just lame and overly common for the genre. It's only at worst mediocre, but at a time when most of Jump's stuff is pretty solid, that just makes it's mediocrity stand out even more.

Shit:

Bleach - If you've been reading my thoughts about it last year you already know how bad this thing has been. It's been shit for years, but wow, somehow it managed to reach new lows this year I never even thought possible. I really hope it finally wraps up this year.

And in terms of how much I like them overall:

One Piece
Hunter X Hunter
Gintama
Assassination Classroom
Shokugeki no Soma
Toriko
World Trigger
My Hero Academia
Hinomaru Zumo
PSI Kusuo Saiki
Haikyu!
Nisekoi
Bleach

I'd consider myself a fan of everything PSI Kuso Saiki and up, which goes to show how much I like most of Jump's current series overall. Keep this up with more well-done titles like Gakkyu Hotei, have some series currently in rough patches like Toriko improve, and give Bleach the boot, and they might just enter a bronze age of quality.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 27, 2015, 01:49:39 PM
While I agree that HXH was mostly just set-up last year, I couldn't rightfully say whether it was good, average, or below average based on just 9 chapters, which in all fairness are typically very slow and expository at the beginning of any new arc (the YNC and CA arcs were just as slow in the beginning). Thus, I personally wouldn't even bother ranking it, myself. If it at least ran for about half the year and was STILL just boring set-up, then that would be a different story.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 27, 2015, 02:34:08 PM
I agree that I also find HXH's arcs have always started off slow, and I do believe that how enjoyable the remainder of the Dark Continent arc will be and how these initial chapters will hold up when it's done still remains to be seen. But as they are now I jusr don't think they were a particularly impressive chunk of chapters from the series, which is a shame, especially considering they came off of it's longest hiatus to date. And a lack of quantity does not mean they couldn't have still been more entertaining to read than they were. I've enjoyed Hinomaru Zumo considerably more than I have Haikyu!!, and that series has only a tenth of the chapters the latter has right now. And even HXH's chapters last year were still more interesting to read than Nisekoi's and unquestionably better than Bleach's, both of which put out 5 times as many chapters as it did. Hence why I see no problem comparing it's output and enjoyment level relative to the rest of Jump's crop last year. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 27, 2015, 02:50:56 PM
In my case it's more of an issue with this being a middle arc. It's easier to judge a series that has started from scratch, but with HXH, it has gone on fir years, and technically this arc started before the last hiatus, so when we got back to it, we just got a few chapters in the middle of an already going story, which personally wasn't enough for me to properly judge it by. I wasn't exactly bored with all of it, as I really liked all of the scenes with Pariston and Ging,  as well as Leorio, and while too exposition heavy, I was interested to see where Kurapika's story-line would go. That said, we never got to see the actual pay-off for the more tedious parts of these few chapters, so in that regard I just couldn't really rate them as a whole, myself. I do agree that they were sub-par overall relative to the better parts of the series itself, but I don't know if I'd label it on the low level of quality of the series that you compared it to, either, if only because I barely had any material to go on, as it was.

Basically, my problem with HXH last year was more that there was hardly even anything for me to judge, rather than the actual overall quality of it being poor, which I still can't say.

For reference, I found the beginning of YNC to be boring (actually, pretty much everything until the auction), the first time that I watched it, but enjoyed it a lot more on subsequent viewings when I knew where the characters and story were going and could actually see some of the seeds being planted. Togashi doesn't plan out his story arcs, but has atalent for naturally developing his characters in a way that just makes it seem like he did plan it out, even though he just made it up as he went along.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 27, 2015, 03:16:09 PM
That's understandable. As for myself, labeling it "below average" didn't exactly mean I felt it was "poor." It just meant, well, I found it below average in comparison to what I know the series can be capable of and in comparison to how entertaining I found it's output overall. As I said before, the only Jump series that I thought was of really poor quality and truly bad last year was Bleach. And with Hunter X Hunter, I consider it a series that's best read when you can read an entire arc in one go rather than see it develop on a weekly basis, since it can be so inconsistent chapter to chapter, but when taking it in on the whole all the elements of the story and character development add together to be something really great. That doesn't mean I think Togashi shouldn't still try to be more consistent and have the earlier chapters in his arcs be better reads on the first time through, though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 27, 2015, 09:29:31 PM
For some reason Crunchyroll only uploaded half of the manga that they are supposed to put out today, but haven't put out the other half they should. No explanation as to why either. And I KNOW those series aren't just off this week because I've seen the new Fuuka chapter uploaded on scanlation sites. Goddamit Crunchy, making me wait to read the latest Yamada-kun... :oo:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 27, 2015, 11:10:57 PM
Okay, so NOW they're up. It's still very unusual that they were six hours late with them.

...not a fan of the new development in the latest Fuuka chapter, btw.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 27, 2015, 11:13:19 PM
It doesn't seem like you've been all that into it for a while. Has the author not managed to keep up quality or is he not taking advantage of his shocking turn?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 27, 2015, 11:39:43 PM
Has it seemed that way? I've been enjoying it fairly well for the past few weeks, and I wrote rather positively about it's output in december in the manga roundup I posted on the blog (http://animationrevelation.com/readables/?p=3695). If it sounds like I haven't been very high on it as of late, I'd say that's more because other series I've been reading have just gotten me more excited to talk about, rather than me losing interest in it.

But yes, I do think the mangaka hasn't taken advantage of the shocking turn as well as he could have. The main thing being that the story has been moving a bit too fast for my liking. I would have liked to see more time spent on Yuu coping with what happened and it taking more time for the band to get back together than it did. That isn't to say I didn't enjoy the chapters that we got, but I definitely think some potential was lost in rushing the recovery phase to finish in only 10 chapters. With this latest development especially, I feel that the mangaka has succumbed to the fan backlash and is moving the story in a more "safe" direction, which does disappoint me. I have heard mixed things about the mangaka's previous works, and I've read some comments that the most recent development is reminiscent of something that happened in one of his earlier manga, so I can't say I'm not a little wary of how the series will progress. For the moment I still find it pretty well-done and enjoyable, but I just hope my intuition that the mangaka has decided to play it "safe" from now on turns out to be a false alarm and the series remains an interesting and well-written read.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 29, 2015, 12:39:30 PM
The next set of new Jump series are coming. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-01-29/shonen-jump-to-launch-4-manga-including-detective-story-by-psyren-iwashiro/.83790) One of them includes a new series by the creator of Psyren. I still haven't finished that series, but I liked what I read of it well enough. It'll probably end up being the Jump Start that makes it into Viz's Jump, so I'll keep tabs on it.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 29, 2015, 12:44:05 PM
It looks like Vagabond is finally back from it's year-long hiatus. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/01/29-1/takehiko-inoues-vagabond-manga-returns-after-one-year-hiatus) Noice. I'm glad I timed catching up with the series as well as I did. Hopefully it doesn't go on any long hiatus' again.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 29, 2015, 02:50:08 PM
I was caught up to the series for quite a while, but I forgot a lot of stuff from the beginning which I read years ago. I think that I'm going to start re-reading the series from scratch when I have the chance.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 29, 2015, 03:33:20 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on January 29, 2015, 12:39:30 PM
The next set of new Jump series are coming. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-01-29/shonen-jump-to-launch-4-manga-including-detective-story-by-psyren-iwashiro/.83790) One of them includes a new series by the creator of Psyren. I still haven't finished that series, but I liked what I read of it well enough. It'll probably end up being the Jump Start that makes it into Viz's Jump, so I'll keep tabs on it.
I'll keep an eye out for it. Psyren wasn't the most original series or anything but compared to most battle manga now it was far better. A detective style should be a good fit for him.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on February 04, 2015, 07:45:44 PM
I literally just gasped when I saw that the new Vagabond chapter had been translated. Wasn't expecting to see it this soon (especially after going months without updates for Vinland Saga), lol.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on February 04, 2015, 08:33:28 PM
Read the new Crunchyroll stuff that came out yesterday and today. The development in Fuuka turned out not to go in the direction I thought it was going to (at least not yet), which quite pleases me. I really like the idea of the new Fuuka just being a rival rather than a romantic interest and I hope it stays that way. The other conflict introduced in this chapter seemed kinda rushed, but I liked the idea behind it and how Yuu handled the situation. It was a good character moment, and next chapter should be a good comeback moment for the band as a whole.

A pretty dark thing happened at the end of the new Space Brothers, which if it really goes in that direction probably will have a damaging effect on Mutta, so that should be interesting to see develop. But of course Yamada-kun just hands down stole the week again like it's been doing lately with another hilarious chapter and great plot development and character moments. Alongside the good stuff that came out of the Jump series earlier, this week has just been killer so far and February looks to be continuing January's hot streak. Speaking of which, I should probably get on finishing writing the roundup for last month...
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on February 06, 2015, 09:22:56 AM
Hell hath frozen over. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-02-06/golgo-13-assassin-manga-heads-towards-conclusion/.84162)

I guess everything must come to an end, but wow, that was a series I thought would continue even after the mangaka died.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Avaitor on February 06, 2015, 02:04:17 PM
Whoa. Never thought I'd see the day.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on February 06, 2015, 02:06:44 PM
Admittedly, Saito seems to intend to end the series around the 200th volume, and the series is only at 185 or so volumes right now, so it probably has a few years left before it actually ends.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 06, 2015, 02:23:48 PM
That has inspired me to maybe finalky check out this manga at some point in the future if I can. I doubt that I would ever read it all, but it may be interesting to have a look at.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on February 06, 2015, 02:30:04 PM
I'd recommend it. Only 13 "best-of" volumes have ever been published in english, but that's honestly good enough considering it's a Lupin-esque series in terms of being more about episodic escapades than any overarching story. It's a fun read and very enjoyable.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 06, 2015, 03:22:43 PM
Yeah. I believe that they did the same thing for Hajime no Ippo in Japan, and in general it makes sense for any manga that's more than 100 volumes long. It's sort of how lobg-running American comic books compile their best story-lines for an easier way for newconers to read them, hence why it was really easy for me to read The Dark Phoenix Saga.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: The Shadow Gentleman on February 07, 2015, 02:12:58 PM
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.batoto.net%2Fforums%2Fuploads%2Feca3c3a6fe676510b5715c83fda1474d.jpg&hash=b718e405638699e459e4eac99af72f64c208e289)

I've found a great manga called Doukyuusei no Macho-kun (http://myanimelist.net/manga/71353/Doukyuusei_no_Macho-kun) today. It's the story of Shota, a boy who is incredibility embarrassed by his smokin' hot bod. Fortunatly, he finds a girl who can look past that and see the real him. Unfortunately only one chapter has been translated as far as I can tell, but I'm confident that enduring story will give it more attention.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on February 09, 2015, 09:32:27 PM
The Psyren mangaka's new series Kagamigami debuted in this week's Jump, and I read it. This is a case where I feel I'll need to give the series more chapters until it can give me something to latch onto. As it is now, it feels like a rather typical battle-shonen series concept. I kind of figured it was going to be more of a battle-shonen, even though the promo description called it a supernatural mystery series. The concept of using spirits to help fight enemy spirits and spirit masters made it hard not for me to draw comparisons to Shaman King, which wasn't helped by how the main character essentially fused with that fox shikigami to fight. The thing that makes me a bit curious about the series' development is the post-apocalyptic future and cryptic dialogue in the opening and ending pages, which seems to indicate something darker in the works behind the story. That's basically the main hook the first chapter ultimately gives, and though it's not exactly novel it is certainly interesting enough to warrant an instinctive "okay, how does that happen?" so it does it's job. I expected something more unique from the creator of Psyren, since that series' first chapter was more atypical, so I can't say I wasn't disappointed by the first chapter, but it goes how it goes I suppose.

The other three new Jump starts also all seem to be battle-shonen. Eh. They don't look particularly interesting at first glace, but I'll hopefully be surprised by at least one of them.

Now, what IS interesting to me is that Viz's Jump is going to be running the debut chapters of the sequel manga to the highly regarded and well-beloved shojo manga, Boys Over Flowers, (http://shonenjump.viz.com/blog/posts/free-boys-over-flowers-season-2) and then simul-publish the series for free on a bi-weekly basis afterwards. It strikes me as odd that the mangaka decided to make the sequel to her now two-decade old shojo hit a shonen manga, but it doesn't really matter to me much either way. I have never read the original Boys Over Flowers, but I do appreciate good slice-of-life and/or romance series, and if this sequel can prove to be just as successful and well-crafted as the original (allegedly) is, I'll be very pleased.

Oh, and I totally went "fuck yeah" out loud while reading this week's Shokugeki no Soma when it was revealed that Arata was going to be Soma's partner in Stagiare week. Arata has left a strong impression each and every time she's been given a chance to shine (the match she had with Hayama where she made that turtle burger is easily one of my top favorite moments in the entire series so far), so and I can't wait to see her get some more character development and perhaps form a more friendly rivalry with Soma.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 09, 2015, 09:39:22 PM
Psyren sort of started out as "Gantz Jr" to a lot of people (though in my mind it's clearly the better of the two) but quickly came into its own pretty fast after the initial few chapters. But I guess I should wait and see since I haven't read this one yet. I just hope it ends up being as fun as Psyren ended up being.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on February 09, 2015, 09:59:14 PM
It could become something more unique, but it'll probably take a while yet to come into it's own. I'll see how the next few chapters play out (more if it sticks around in Viz's Jump for the long haul).

If you want to read the first chapter for yourself, you can check it out via this week's issue of Viz's Shonen Jump, which is free. (http://shonenjump.viz.com/reader/3237) I believe it will only be so until the 16th, though, so you should probably get to it before then.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 09, 2015, 10:07:19 PM
Here's what I think the problem is. There are shonen like Psyren or MX0 which are less typical then you're average battle series, nut don't get enough fan support or sales to stay running for long. So then you have an oversaturation of series that try to just cater to what's popular, and if they are successful, the mangaka will usually try to play it safe from there. While they clearly got into manga because they loved it as an artform, it's a full-time job and their livelihood depends on their volumes selling, and the highest chance of success with that is to give readers what tgey want, and unfortunately a lot of readers want stuff that's familiar to them, hence the generic crap.

Now stuff like Bakuman gives readers a more glorified insite into what goes on behibd the scenes, but as entertaining as it is, it just isn't real life. Real life is more intense and stressful, so I wouldn't be too surprised if the Psyren mangaka succumbed to pressure, and is at least initially trying to play it safe until the new series can get its feet off the ground by first developing a solid fan-base.

This isn't to say that all modern shonen manga are like this, but rather that we have a lot like this because of the circumstances of how the business works. It's a business first and foremost, and the job of the editors is to ensure that each series will please a lot of readers regardless of quality, which leads to better sales, and makes the company more money in the long run.

Now, all of this is mostly theoretical on my part, but it really does make a lot of sense to me. It's not too different from Hollywood movies, realky. Gene Siskel once said that writers, directors, and producers are often smarter than the movies that they make. If a movie is bad due to having to compromise the quality for financial reasons, odds are tgat they will know how bad the movie is more than anyone else, though it's all too easy for anyone else to just assume that tge movie was bad because the people making it were incompetent or untalented, regardless of hiw much of it fell out of their control. I sort of believe that manga is at least somewhat the same way. The bottom line being that, I doubt that the generic first chapter of the Psyren mangaka's new manga is obscured to him. On the contrary, whether he is happy with it or not, he's probably fully aware of its quality, or lack thereof.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 09, 2015, 10:12:35 PM
Also, let me clarify that I'm just using the Psyren mangaka as an example. My post is less about him specifically and more about why I believe that the battle shonen genre as a whole is, IMO, so oversaturated with mediocre quality series, with the stand-outs being so few and far apart. And I don't just mean that about modern manga. I have a feeling that it has always been somewhat true about the genre, even in the past.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 09, 2015, 10:23:56 PM
It's too bad we couldn't have got a Psyren anime to flesh out the ending and a MxO anime to tone down the ecchi elements it became to focused on near the end. I thought both would have deserved the focus, though apparently Psyren was popular everywhere except Japan.

Quote from: Cartoon X on February 09, 2015, 09:59:14 PM
It could become something more unique, but it'll probably take a while yet to come into it's own. I'll see how the next few chapters play out (more if it sticks around in Viz's Jump for the long haul).

If you want to read the first chapter for yourself, you can check it out via this week's issue of Viz's Shonen Jump, which is free. (http://shonenjump.viz.com/reader/3237) I believe it will only be so until the 16th, though, so you should probably get to it before then.
I can see what you're referring you. It's a pretty safe first chapter that has obvious battle elements. But it could also very easily become a mystery series with battle elements or a battle series with some mystery aspects. I think I would have to wait to see what they do after everything is set up and the story starts like I did with Psyren to get into it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 09, 2015, 10:33:54 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 09, 2015, 10:12:35 PM
Also, let me clarify that I'm just using the Psyren mangaka as an example. My post is less about him specifically and more about why I believe that the battle shonen genre as a whole is, IMO, so oversaturated with mediocre quality series, with the stand-outs being so few and far apart. And I don't just mean that about modern manga. I have a feeling that it has always been somewhat true about the genre, even in the past.
The plot in the first chapter is pretty inconsequential, really. From what was hidden in the first chapter, it seems to imply that the world is destroyed in the future and the main character traveled back to the past to correct it. While this was more upfront in Psyren he obscured it here probably in order to make in accessible to younger readers and to focus on how the spiritual and mystery aspects are going to work in the series.

I just hope he gets rewarded for telling a fun story this time.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on February 09, 2015, 10:51:39 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 09, 2015, 10:07:19 PM
Here's what I think the problem is. There are shonen like Psyren or MX0 which are less typical then you're average battle series, nut don't get enough fan support or sales to stay running for long. So then you have an oversaturation of series that try to just cater to what's popular, and if they are successful, the mangaka will usually try to play it safe from there. While they clearly got into manga because they loved it as an artform, it's a full-time job and their livelihood depends on their volumes selling, and the highest chance of success with that is to give readers what tgey want, and unfortunately a lot of readers want stuff that's familiar to them, hence the generic crap.

Now stuff like Bakuman gives readers a more glorified insite into what goes on behibd the scenes, but as entertaining as it is, it just isn't real life. Real life is more intense and stressful, so I wouldn't be too surprised if the Psyren mangaka succumbed to pressure, and is at least initially trying to play it safe until the new series can get its feet off the ground by first developing a solid fan-base.

This isn't to say that all modern shonen manga are like this, but rather that we have a lot like this because of the circumstances of how the business works. It's a business first and foremost, and the job of the editors is to ensure that each series will please a lot of readers regardless of quality, which leads to better sales, and makes the company more money in the long run.

Now, all of this is mostly theoretical on my part, but it really does make a lot of sense to me. It's not too different from Hollywood movies, realky. Gene Siskel once said that writers, directors, and producers are often smarter than the movies that they make. If a movie is bad due to having to compromise the quality for financial reasons, odds are tgat they will know how bad the movie is more than anyone else, though it's all too easy for anyone else to just assume that tge movie was bad because the people making it were incompetent or untalented, regardless of hiw much of it fell out of their control. I sort of believe that manga is at least somewhat the same way. The bottom line being that, I doubt that the generic first chapter of the Psyren mangaka's new manga is obscured to him. On the contrary, whether he is happy with it or not, he's probably fully aware of its quality, or lack thereof.

Yeah, I think that's pretty much how it is. A lot of the more generic series seem to come from mangaka who didn't succeed with their first series and decide to follow the guaranteed path to success (aka flash over substance fighting-focused manga) with their second work. Or mangaka who did succeed with their first work but were then told by their editors to do the same because they'd make more money that way.

I generally think a lot of shonen mangaka's first mangas tend to be their most creative. Not necessarily better, in some cases, but even back in the day, series like Urusei Yatsura and Dr. Slump were considerably more unique and creative than their mangaka's direct and decidedly more main-stream follow-ups (though, as it turned out, those series became their mangaka's most popular and profitable works by far...).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 09, 2015, 11:03:00 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on February 09, 2015, 10:51:39 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 09, 2015, 10:07:19 PM
Here's what I think the problem is. There are shonen like Psyren or MX0 which are less typical then you're average battle series, nut don't get enough fan support or sales to stay running for long. So then you have an oversaturation of series that try to just cater to what's popular, and if they are successful, the mangaka will usually try to play it safe from there. While they clearly got into manga because they loved it as an artform, it's a full-time job and their livelihood depends on their volumes selling, and the highest chance of success with that is to give readers what tgey want, and unfortunately a lot of readers want stuff that's familiar to them, hence the generic crap.

Now stuff like Bakuman gives readers a more glorified insite into what goes on behibd the scenes, but as entertaining as it is, it just isn't real life. Real life is more intense and stressful, so I wouldn't be too surprised if the Psyren mangaka succumbed to pressure, and is at least initially trying to play it safe until the new series can get its feet off the ground by first developing a solid fan-base.

This isn't to say that all modern shonen manga are like this, but rather that we have a lot like this because of the circumstances of how the business works. It's a business first and foremost, and the job of the editors is to ensure that each series will please a lot of readers regardless of quality, which leads to better sales, and makes the company more money in the long run.

Now, all of this is mostly theoretical on my part, but it really does make a lot of sense to me. It's not too different from Hollywood movies, realky. Gene Siskel once said that writers, directors, and producers are often smarter than the movies that they make. If a movie is bad due to having to compromise the quality for financial reasons, odds are tgat they will know how bad the movie is more than anyone else, though it's all too easy for anyone else to just assume that tge movie was bad because the people making it were incompetent or untalented, regardless of hiw much of it fell out of their control. I sort of believe that manga is at least somewhat the same way. The bottom line being that, I doubt that the generic first chapter of the Psyren mangaka's new manga is obscured to him. On the contrary, whether he is happy with it or not, he's probably fully aware of its quality, or lack thereof.

Yeah, I think that's pretty much how it is. A lot of the more generic series seem to come from mangaka who didn't succeed with their first series and decide to follow the guaranteed path to success (aka flash over substance fighting-focused manga) with their second work. Or mangaka who did succeed with their first work but were then told by their editors to do the same because they'd make more money that way.

I generally think a lot of shonen mangaka's first mangas tend to be their most creative. Not necessarily better, in some cases, but even back in the day, series like Urusei Yatsura and Dr. Slump were considerably more unique and creative than their mangaka's direct and decidedly more main-stream follow-ups (though, as it turned out, those series became their mangaka's most popular and profitable works by far...).
I think it really depends on what it means to be a success. I'm fairly certain I heard that Psyren lasted so long is because of its out of Japan success (the manga was fully released in french in Quebec, for crying out loud, which usually only happens to the popular series-- Dragon Ball for instance was fully released in french there YEARS before Viz got a hold of it) but Jump finally found the need to cut it when it was nearing the end. But they did let it end. By all accounts it was doing well, just not in the way Japan traditionally measures success.

I do wish there was a way for series with popular niches to get recognized (Mx0 lasted about 100 chapters before it was told it had to end, it couldn't have been that unpopular) which might help in adding some variety to the stale formula they continually stick to.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on February 09, 2015, 11:18:40 PM
Do you know popular was Psyren in Japan when it was still being serialized? Like, where it averaged in the weekly rankings and how well the volumes sold?

Some series, like Gintama, don't rank particularly great in Jump on a week to week basis, but sell an amazing quantity in volumes and related merchandise. This is also why Bleach is still around even though it's been ranking bottom 5 in the magazine for nearly 5 years. If Psyren was just doing okay in terms of rankings but underperforming in terms of volume and/or merchandise sales relative to other series,  that might explain why it was not considered a "success" in Japan even though it was well-received by readers, and perhaps considered less of a priority to Shueshia compared to other series when it was cancelled.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 09, 2015, 11:29:35 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on February 09, 2015, 11:18:40 PM
Do you know popular was Psyren in Japan when it was still being serialized? Like, where it averaged in the weekly rankings and how well the volumes sold?

Some series, like Gintama, don't rank particularly great in Jump on a week to week basis, but sell an amazing quantity in volumes and related merchandise. This is also why Bleach is still around even though it's been ranking bottom 5 in the magazine for nearly 5 years. If Psyren was just doing okay in terms of rankings but underperforming in terms of volume and/or merchandise sales relative to other series,  that might explain why it was not considered a "success" in Japan even though it was well-received by readers, and perhaps considered less of a priority to Shueshia compared to other series when it was cancelled.
I think you hit the nail on the head. Volume sales in Japan weren't very high and the ranking was middling most of the time. It never actually did abysmally. As for merchandise, I believe there were complaints from fans at the time that there wasn't any. Most of its success was overseas where the manga actually did sell volumes well.

I guess I would consider it a success for the fans and the author and not a success for the publisher in this case. Generally speaking, having a full story run, overseas success, and a good reputation should consider it a general success, but it wasn't ever a One Piece, Toriko, or Gintama.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on February 14, 2015, 06:54:48 PM
I ended up being the second person on MAL to add Boys Over Flowers season 2 to my list.

That's pretty neat.

As far as the first chapter itself went, it was mostly set-up establishing the main two leads and the central conflict. I'm not crazy about the attitudes of those Elite 5 characters or whatever based on what they got to do here, but they probably will become more interesting and likable characters moving forward since they seem like they'll be the good chunk of the supporting cast. The premise itself feels expected for a shojo title, and it reads like one as well, even though it is a shonen. But while I had some quibbles with it, there's enough potential here that makes me feel like this could make for a fun and enjoyable romantic comedy series, and a fresh feeling one for the shonen demo. Hopefully the manga picks up as it goes forward.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 15, 2015, 12:42:44 PM
It's worth mentioning that I actualky kind of enjoyed the most recent Magi chapter. Aladdin's conflict with Judar is much more interesting than the one between Alibaba and Hakuryuu. With Judar, as a Magi born just like any other, he was meant to have a greater importance of helping people in the new world. Yet he hates the idea of his life goal and destiny being decided for him, so in his rebellious nature, he actively tries to fight against it. He extends his hatred towards Aladdin for whom he perceives to be a little goodie-two-shoes who's just doing as he was ordered to. To this Aladdin reveals that he never even initially knew what the purpose of a Magi was. He was never given any orders or even told anything about his purpose when he was sent from AT. For the longest time he just wandered the world, had adventures, made friends, and had the freedom to choose his own destiny for himself. The theme here is choice versus destiny, and I believe what Ohtaka is trying to get at here is that despite what some characters believe, they always have a choice. Of course, I could be wrong, but it seems pretty clear to me. It could be more nuanced, sure, but I'm fine with what we got.

This brings up another point from an earlier discussion with CX. When I compared this manga to ASOIAF, it wasn't to say that I expected the same level of nuance from it. Rather, in cases like Alibaba's rule over his Balbadd, I just wanted Ohtaka to tackle the issue in the first place, rather than change the subject abruptly. The obviously 1D correct Alibaba vs. the obviously 1D incorrect and musguided Sasuke 2.0 is not an interesting conflict. I don't care if the subject matter is not as in-depth as a book series or show meant for adults. It can be appropriate for a level suited to its much younger target demographic, yet still interesting for adults, as many other shonen series have been. My standards really aren't that high at all.

I'll even throw the AT arc a bone, here. My reason for not enjoying it was that it failed to make me really care about the characters. That said, the concepts and issues that it tackled were legitimately interesting. Solomon didn't want to rule for a good reason, but was pressured into it. Yet despite being a good person, it didn't mean that his rule was infallible. As he probably knew would eventually happen, he made certain decisions that turned out to have massive negative repercussions, putting him at internal conflict not just with his own subjects, but even with some of his closest friends. Now, if the characters had been more fleshed out and had a bit more to their personality, I probably would have loved the arc, but as it stands, I found the execution to be lacking, but the backbone for greatness was still there. Now, Magnostadt is an arc that really managed to get both elements right, and that's why it's awesome.

So, no, my relatively recent distaste for Magi has absolutely nothing to do with me just turning on the battle shonen genre and being a snob for ridiculously high quality. On the contrary, Magi is one of the few contemporaries that I was enjoying because it's a battle shonen but does something a bit different to make it stand out as unique. I've simply been disappointed that the series hasn't been capitalizing on the more interesting story developments that were being built up, which are the same types that worked for it in the past.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 16, 2015, 01:43:20 PM
I have to say, I really enjoyed the first Magi anime (haven't seen the second yet) but one part that struck me as forced was Alibaba not being made king.

Yes, I know that he's one of the main characters and a king can't just go off adventuring, but everything in the arc was about him growing and understanding the way the world is and what he could do to better it. A lot like Aragorn in LOTR, actually. So, everything in the arc logically is pointing toward Alibaba being the one to grow up and stand for his people which finally peaks when he takes down the assassins and faces his half-brother in the assembly. This is a really good build-up to a quite obvious conclusion (I don't say that in a bad way, because foreshadowing is good, there was a lot of it up to this point) thematically. The boy who ran away and nearly lost himself to despair was helped back on his road by his new friends and finally grows into the man he is capable of being.

Then he says he doesn't want to be king and wants to make it a republic because he saw it happen at some place the audience has never seen.

Now, far be it from me to criticize republics and praise monarchies, but this was not hinted at whatsoever in the story. The whole reason Alibaba didn't want to be king was because he didn't know how to be one and thought his people deserved better-- ironically, great aspects of being a king. Not once did he ever hint at his reason for not wanting to be a king was because of political preferences. It comes out of left field and feels forced in order to have Alibaba continue to tread water for a while.

I like Magi from what I've seen. It's a good adventure story. But I do wish it would stick to adventure style plots of just stopping the bad guy. It's better when it's straightforward. Now, I haven't seen season 2, so I could be wrong, but I actually liked the series when it played it straight. It was good at it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 16, 2015, 02:43:01 PM
It actually does a surprisingly good job at dealing with moral and political conflicts in the Magnostadt arc, IMO, while still being a fun story. Actually, come to think of it, Magnostadt is sort of like a better version of the Three Kings arc from YYH, with each main character backing a different faction, while trying to prevent an impending war, but this arc actually goes in the direction that I wanted to see from the Three Kings arc.

As for Alibaba, to be fair I think that it would've been interesting to see him try to set up a republic but discover all of the problems and challenges in converting his people from an age-old government system to a brand new one that has no guarentee to work. That said, keep in mind that the plot which you were talking about wasn't completely dropped. In this case it's put on hold for a plot point that was actually built-up. Remember how the former King of Balbadd had promised to wed a princess of the Kou Empire and add Balbadd to their territory via a marriage alliance (which flat-out had to be done in order for Balbadd to survive, since the kingdom was in a shit-ton of debt)? Well, Alibaba taking over and making Balbadd a republic pretty much throws that out the window, so as a consequence the Kou Empire would see Alibaba backing out of a previous engagement (even if it wasn't originally his engagement) that was promised to them as an act of war, and of course Balbadd is in no shape to fight, so Sinbad wisely advises Alibaba to leave for now so that he won't be executed and let the Kou Empire peacefully claim Balbadd so that there are no needless deaths. The plot wasn't dropped, but just put on hold for surprisingly well-written and well thought out reasons. Alibaba and Aladdin will have to figure out how to work out a new deal with the Kou Empire. On top of everything else, it's great world-building for the series.

Now, having said that, when Ohtaka comes back to this plot and drops it again for no good reason, then THAT's when I lose my shit and start criticizing her writing.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 16, 2015, 02:57:29 PM
Well, I'm certain to enjoy season 2 more since I liked season 1 quite a bit. That was pretty much my only quibble with the season, but if you say it is built into something else, I'll happily put it aside for now. It was quite an enjoyable watch. It actually reminded me of something I'd watch on Toonami back in the day. I'd sure like to see where it goes next.

Seriously though, the second OP and ED were nowhere near as good as the first ones. Shame they changed them.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 16, 2015, 03:05:40 PM
None of the OPs are as good as the first one, IMO. They are serviceable, but the first one got me pumped for each episode, and I never skipped it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on February 17, 2015, 08:05:56 PM
I actually quite liked this week's Kagamigami. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that it was my favorite chapter in this week's issue of Jump. It's a very simple chapter that isn't too revealing of character or story or anything, but it was just really fun and funny and made me like the characters a bit more. I think the series' best element so far is the female lead, Mako. She was easily the most entertaining part of the first chapter for me and was even more so in this one. So long as she continues to be prominent and has an active role in the story, the series could grow on me.

Black Clover's debut chapter was pretty good too. Nothing exceptional for a first chapter for a shonen manga, but it hit all the right notes and presented the characters and story in an enjoyable manner. The main character is a little too reminiscent of Naruto, so that makes me wary a bit, but the art is great and the world and the best friend/rival character seem intriguing. Though it had all the expected cliches, it somehow felt more fresh than the first chapter of Kagamigami to me, which is a good sign of enjoyability for now. Optimistic on this one.

As I thought, this new arc in Food Wars! is going to provide good development for Arato. This chapter was mostly focused from her perspective and coming to learn the ropes of working in a busy kitchen and become more self-confident after her loss against Hayama. Still, I can't imagine that there won't be nothing to challenge Soma himself in this situation, so what will be the real challenge for him and Arato in this arc is going to be interesting to see.

I've grown fonder of the first chapter of Boys Over Flowers Season 2 after re-reading it and having read the first few chapters of the original manga. While it isn't nearly as good a first chapter as the original series', I still think the characters and the concept of the conflict is going to be a lot of fun, and should make for an enjoyable read. And having enjoyed what I've read of the original so far, I'm looking more forward to reading it.

Assassination Classroom ended the conflict with Principal Asano wonderfully, in a way that felt appropriate for what we seen and come to learn about that character, and I appreciate how he was able to come out of this arc a more likable and sympathetic character without having to do a complete 180 in terms of his behavior and thinking (though he will be more amicable towards Korosensei from now on). But I have to say, the plot is really taking no breathers. Both Class E's grudge with Class A and the Principal's antagonism towards Korosensei has been resolved, and it looks like Shiro and the God of Death will be returning to the story in the next arc (which will presumably start next chapter). I appreciate that it's not wasting time dragging out the story, but it makes me wonder just how much of it is left at this point.

The newest Rising of the Shield Hero chapter felt rushed, and from the comments apparently it is in terms of adapting the light novel. Wonder what's up with that. If this chapter's any indication, that'll only be a detriment to the quality of the manga going forward.

For some reason Crunchyroll only uploaded half of the new Seven Deadly Sins chapter, so after the first 12 pages (which are spent just going over the results of the character popularity poll), you only get 4 pages of the actual chapter proper. They've been making mistakes in formatting the latest Sins and Fairy Tail chapters frequently as of late, and it's rather annoying to see.

The latest Fuuka was a jarring one. I's a flashback showing how both Fuuka's actually met each other a few years before the beginning of the series. It's cute chapter, but the placement of it within the series seems odd, as it's breaking up the tension of what's happening in-story right now. If it was meant to be a special chapter, then it would have been better to make it the 50th chapter, instead of the 51st. It just strikes me as odd.

Yamada-kun had another solid character-driven piece this week. It seems that Kaori will become Yamada's ally and is going to be the mole in the Chess Club for the Student Council. Though, I have a feeling there'll be more to that, since I can't imagine that Ushio and Asuka just let a random girl join their club that had nothing to offer them. I have to wonder how this is going to play out.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on February 19, 2015, 03:35:56 PM
English print release of My Hero Academia confirmed for August. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-02-19/viz-announces-print-release-for-my-hero-academia/.85185)

You know, this has got to be one of the quickest print debuts I've ever seen or heard of for a manga. Not the quickest, because I know Rin-ne's first print volume actually got a simultaneous release in both Japan and the U.S., but this is still pretty exceptionally fast. The series only debuted in Japan last July. Only a bit more than a year after and the first volume will hit the shelves in the U.S. I guess a lot people really are expecting it to be the next BIG thing in the anime/manga fandom.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 19, 2015, 03:37:39 PM
I remember when Shonen Jump first started over here and they were advertising Naruto constantly long before it actually came out here. We've come a long way.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on February 19, 2015, 09:58:59 PM
That's certainly true. We can now legally read entire new series just debuting in Japan on the very same day japanese readers experience them. I don't see how you get much better than that, other than a full simulpub of an entire dang magazine.

On an unrelated note, it's been two days and I still find it extremely amusing that King won the first Seven Deadly Sins character popularity poll by a landslide - over 120, 000 votes, which was nearly 4 times as many votes as what Ban, who was in second place, got! You rarely see something like that happen in these polls, especially for a character that isn't the main protagonist of the series. In general I could get behind the results, since the top three just happened to be my favorite three characters in the series, after all. It's still bizarre  that Oslo, that weird pet dog King has that has only appeared very occasionally in the series, somehow got 6th place, though. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on February 22, 2015, 10:43:35 PM
So, this little twist happened in the latest Assassination Classroom chapter...

Spoiler
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:jawdrop:

On the one had, this raises a lot of questions towards her behavior throughout the entire series so far, since it's a very jarring twist that completely changes how to perceive her character and gives her a newfound importance in the story. I'd have to go back and see certain moments again to look at the hints for this (and there probably were). But man, what a shocker! Hopefully this'll lead into finally learning more about Korosensei's past and secrets, which I've been wanting to know for a while now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on February 22, 2015, 11:00:03 PM
So here's the clue given for the twist in this chapter (#128):

(https://41.media.tumblr.com/7dde917ea5a8f6a646ab8d2ab1a5317b/tumblr_nk7kbmTGAl1r6toezo1_540.jpg)

And what happened during Shiro's first appearance all the way back in chapter 29?

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Dang. That is an Oda-level callback and attention to detail right there! Well played, Yusei Matsui, well played.



Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on February 23, 2015, 01:55:00 PM
Well, that's three chapters, so that's the last we'll be seeing of Kagamigami chapter that'll be in Viz's Jump for a while. My appreciation for the series went steadily up with each successive chapter, and I'm honestly a bit bummbed that I won't get to read it for a few weeks, if only because it means I won't get to see more of Mako's amazingly hilarious shenanigans. I think it has potential and could get better as it goes on, so I'm really pulling for it to be chosen to be added to the lineup between this round of Jump Starts.

Speaking of which, the first chapter of Cyborg Roggy was a total bore. While it could somehow get drastically more interesting in it's second chapter, for the time being Black Clover is the only competition I really see for Kagamigami being added into the lineup, though maybe Ultra Battle Satellite will be surprisingly good when it debuts next week. Either way, Viz won't decide on a series until after all four have finished running their trial chapters, so even if they pick Kagamigami it won't be back in until late March/early April.

Speaking of, the latest issue of Viz's Jump was cram-packed (13 series!), and about 9 of them were solid to excellent this week. I'm especially looking forward to seeing the next installments of Gakkyu Hotei (SO glad I subscribed to Jump if just so I can read this!), Shokugeki no Soma, and World Trigger. Toriko has also rebounded quite nicely into a better sort of ridiculous I find more enjoyable, Nisekoi is finally doing a more serious character-development arc and is all the better for it, and while I'm not much enthused about the idea of seeing a bunch of one-on-one battles (LAME!), I liked the backstory for Todoroki given in My Hero Academia and how the rivalry between Midoriya and him has been set up. All in all, it made for a fine and fun issue to read. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on February 27, 2015, 09:51:17 PM
Well, looks like the Karasuno v. Seijoh rematch is over. Honestly...I thought the whole game was rather boring. Not irritatingly boring, but little about it stuck out as memorable to me. Very disappointing, considering the build-up.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 27, 2015, 10:01:56 PM
It was OK. The first match was way more intense, though, especially in the anime.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 03, 2015, 09:25:20 PM
Well now, Ultra Battle Satellite's first chapter was a pretty enjoyable read, and Cyborg Roggy's second chapter was much better than it's first. This was a good round of Jump Starts. I'm still gunning for Kagamigami to get in, but it'll probably be Black Clover, since the staff seems to REALLY like it if the WSJ podcast is any indication.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 04, 2015, 12:04:44 PM
I'm hoping for Kagamigami. I haven't read Black Clover, but it doesn't really look like my thing from what I've seen.

Of course, that could change, but Kagamigami just interests me more right now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 04, 2015, 12:56:08 PM
I think both series will be fairly successful in the short term even if either one doesn't get into the english Jump. If you don't subscribe to it and are waiting for the unofficial scans to pop up, it probably won't affect your chances of reading it. :P

Even if either one doesn't get selected for the english Jump after the trial period finishes, if it remains popular, it could be added in later when a spot opens up (Bleach and Nisekoi might end this year, after all).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 19, 2015, 08:03:17 PM
I've had a blast with Toriko's output recently. It's really pulled itself out of that low point and has become as much fun to read as it used to be at the beginning of last year. After a shaky start, the Pair arc ended great and I'm quite excited for the next one. Also, Monkey King Bambina needs to be a recurring character. He is awesome.

Now if only I could be as enthusiastic about Magi again too...

Most of what I've been reading on a weekly basis that I like has been really, really good lately. That sort of makes me more apathetic to the stuff that haven't been up to par, like Magi and Haikyuu, which come across even more boring or uninteresting to me than they would have in a less stellar month otherwise. It's more baffling/annoying with Magi, considering these fights with Hakuryuu and Judar are supposed to be intense, climactic, and desperate (especially in the two most recent chapters that came out today), but they've just felt too rushed and messy to leave much impact. Disappointing, considering how excited I used to be about the series a year ago.

Nothing was said about which of the recent Jump Start series will be added to Viz's Jump this week. Maybe they'll announce it in the next issue? Really hoping they choose Kagamigami - I've honestly missed reading it these past few weeks.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 20, 2015, 07:42:22 AM
A new promo for the Yamda-kun and the Seven Witches anime has come out. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-03-20/yamada-kun-and-the-seven-witches-tv-anime-promo-streamed/.86169)

Not really digging the emphasis on the ecchi. It's in the manga, yeah, but the anime seems like it'll be over-doing it too much and detract from the story. At least I know the premiere date now, April 12th. But are they really only giving it 12 episodes? Why not do two cours and adapt the entire Seven Witches portion of the series, which ends at a great stopping point? Unless they plan to rush through everything (which I really hope they don't), they are probably only going to get up to that Future vision arc, which is a pretty big arc for that point in the series, but leaves the story incomplete. But the fact that all the original seven witches are shown in the promo art, and Noa and Rika don't appear until after that arc, makes me even more confused at what they're planning to do. Best case scenario they are giving it split cours, and will adapt that whole section of the series at an appropriate pace. But if they are Tokyo Ghoul-ing this thing...bleh. At any rate, my excitement for the adaption has definitely been shaken and I'm more skeptical, but hopefully it'll still be well-made.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 21, 2015, 03:26:29 PM
A new promo for the The Heroic Legend of Arslan anime has come out. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmeXQAzM3Ro)

Those production values look pretty great. This should be a well-made adaption, and hopefully more engaging than the source material has been at times.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Markness on March 21, 2015, 06:33:00 PM
I agree on Toriko, Cartoon X. It's been a fun ride, especially compared to how One Piece and Magi have been lately. The former just can't seem to go anywhere and the latter just feels like everything has been tacked on. I can't even read Bleach anymore but when you have Nanatsu no Taizai and UQ Holder! making waves, do you really need Bleach?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 21, 2015, 07:04:34 PM
I honestly wasn't digging the current arc when it started last year, mainly because Shimabukuro overused the whole "Toriko and co. get horribly mutilated but somehow survive" trope a time too many with the most inconceivable explanation yet, and the characters felt too overpowered, but it surprised me how quickly I've become excited to read it again since the fight with Bambina started. It's been a non-stop ride of over-the-top action-packed goofy fun since, which was always the appeal of Toriko for me, so I'm feeling very good about the series again and optimistic that the next arc will keep it up.

I'm fatigued with the Dressora arc in OP at this point. It's gone on so long, and has juggled so many subplots (some of which, like Rebecca's and the Tontatta's, I ultimately grew irritated by), that I just want to see something else from the series at this point. That isn't too say there haven't been great chapters and moments in this arc, or recently. I actually really loved the chapter where Luffy was forced to beat Bellamy down into unconsciousness, and the recent chapter where the fight with Doflamingo has become more intense and personal on Luffy's part thanks to both with what happened to Bellmany and now that Law has been severely injured as well. But still, the sooner this arc ends and we can get away from Dressrosa, the better.

With Magi, the whole business with Hakuryuu essentially turning into Sasuke 2.0 left a bitter taste in my mouth, and the rushed pacing and fight-focus nature of recent chapters has not done anything for me, since everything's happened too fast to have much tangible tension. What's been happening in the series recently hasn't been bad, but none of it leaves much impact on me due to how much more interesting and exciting so many other manga I've been keeping with have been lately.

I've had some mixed feelings about Sins output recently, but I do think the current arc is still in set-up mode. I've really liked the last few chapters, so I'm hoping to see some great stuff from the series when this arc really gets going.

The only reason I bother with Bleach at this point is to see it through to the end. And though big stuff has happened in recent chapters (Ywach killed the Soul King, Aizen came back, etc.) knowing Kubo he'll still drag the series out for a while yet. Right now I don't see it ending before the end of the year, at the earliest.

If you were to ask me to list the top 5 weekly manga I've been the most excited to read these days, they'd be (in rough order):

1. Shokugeki no Soma
2. Assassination Classroom
3. Gakkyu Hotei
4. World Trigger
5. Yamada-kun and the Seven Witches

There's plenty else that's been strong lately as well. I think this is going to end up being a great year for manga overall.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 21, 2015, 07:28:43 PM
Magi actively pisses me off because it bothered to take the time to set-up really interesting potential future story-lines, and then just wastes its time on this crap with Hakuryuu which it didn't even spend adequate time building up. It feels like I've missed essential parts of his character arc in terms of how he went from where he started to where he currently is, and that just comes off as bad writing to me.

One Piece's current arc has been dragged out so long that even Oda seems to be tired of it! With the exception of some chapters here and there, the manga has really been lacking the sense of passion and drive that made pre-time-skip arcs so genuinely entertaining. You can tell that Oda doesn't have his heart completely in the series, right now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 21, 2015, 07:36:58 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 21, 2015, 07:28:43 PM

One Piece's current arc has been dragged out so long that even Oda seems to be tired of it! With the exception of some chapters here and there, the manga has really been lacking the sense of passion and drive that made pre-time-skip arcs so genuinely entertaining. You can tell that Oda doesn't have his heart completely in the series, right now.

Eh, I disagree about that. If there's one admirable trait I felt every chapter of this arc has had, it's the visible effort on Oda's part to make this feel like a big and exciting story, to the point where he's been overdoing things to it's detriment. Oda seems to be working hard and putting as much effort as he's always had, if not more so. It's just the messy nature of how the arc has been written has lessened the effect of some moments that should feel much more impactful, imo.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 21, 2015, 08:01:35 PM
Yes, clearly he's working hard, but so is every mangaka. It goes without saying. By saying that there is not as much heart in this current arc as earlier stuff, I mean that nothing has come close to stuff like Arlong Park, Drum Island, Enies Lobby, Thriller Bark, and so on. I don't even mean in terms of story quality. I mean in terms of caring about the characters and their plight. I was invested in the Straw Hats throughout all of those arcs. I can't bring myself to care about any of them here. Oda spending so much time on an elaborate plot is actually sort of the problem. He's taken away time from developing characters to do so, and what we get is lots of repetitive jokes that stereotype them rather than expand them.

With Luffy beating down Bellamy, I just wasn't feeling it. I should have felt the tension and anger right alongside the character like I did in previous arcs, but Oda either didn't spend enough time to properly develop Bellamy's face turn and the mutual respect formed between him and Luffy, or he's spent too much time on other sub-plots that by the time we get back to Luffy's peril, I've completely lost my drive or reason for caring because that gap in time caused a disconnect with the momentum of that story-line and corresponding character development.

That's what I mean by a lack of passion. The story-line specifically for Luffy in this arc is fine, in and of itself. It's the sense of genuinely caring about how said story will effect the character in question (or vice-versa) which is what's lost on me. And that's how I feel about every other character in this arc. Once this arc is over, Oda really needs to take some time to properly reconnect both himself as a writer and his readers as an audience with the Straw Hats, again.

I kind of wish he'd do something on the level of how he caused a rift between Luffy and Usopp in an earlier arc. Not that exact thing, obviously, but something to re-establish both a sense of connection and chemistry between the crew.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 21, 2015, 08:31:22 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 21, 2015, 08:01:35 PM

With Luffy beating down Bellamy, I just wasn't feeling it. I should have felt the tension and anger right alongside the character like I did in previous arcs, but Oda either didn't spend enough time to properly develop Bellamy's face turn and the mutual respect formed between him and Luffy, or he's spent too much time on other sub-plots that by the time we get back to Luffy's peril, I've completely lost my drive or reason for caring because that gap in time caused a disconnect with the momentum of that story-line and corresponding character development.

That's what I mean by a lack of passion. The story-line specifically for Luffy in this arc  is fine, in and of itself. It's the sense of genuinely caring about how said story will effect (or vice-versa) the character in question which is what's lost on me. And that's how I feel about every other character in this arc. Once this arc is over, Oda really needs to take some time to properly reconnect both himself as a writer and his readers as an audience with the Straw Hats, again.

But on the flipside, I personally did feel for both characters in that chapter and enjoyed the payoff of that subplot as it had been built up. I have been able to care about many of the characters and their stories in this arc. I don't think Oda has stopped caring about those kind of things, but his way of executing it hasn't always been effective in this arc because he's been trying to do too much. From the way you've described it, I feel it's more of a matter about you losing interest in what's been going on in the series recently, rather than Oda losing interest in it himself. I think he cares about the series just as much as he's always been, it's just lately he's been prioritizing and focusing on some aspects of the series moreso than others, to mixed results.

One thing I wholeheartedly agree with is that I do think that the Straw Hats have lost a lot of chemistry with each other since the time-skip. I've complained about this several times now, but I really feel that close sense of family that they had in previous arcs just hasn't come across thanks to them being split up and focus resting on other supporting characters, and Luffy is the only Straw Hat that really feels important to the story to me these days. It just feels like after writing only Luffy for over 2 years, Oda lost his sense of how to write the other crewmembers as equal players, and so now in the current arc we've has half of them written out of the story again for over a year at this point. Oda really needs to find a way to give all the Straw Hats something genuinely meaningful to do in each arc again, and balance their focus with that of the supporting characters like he was able to do in pre-timseskip arcs.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 21, 2015, 09:03:50 PM
Well, one thing that I came to realize is that the big pay-off scenes are a very good indicator for how much I personally enjoyed the arc. When Luffy stamps Arlong through an entire tower, punches the shit out of Crocodile through layers of ground and bricks, has Usopp burn down the World Government flag, flat-out obliterates Rob Lucci in the very moment he slips up and leaves himself vulnerable due to underestimating Luffy, and in general just great dramatic scenes like Whitebeard's epic speech in Marineford, I get an overwhelming sense of a "fuck yeah" feeling, like I genuinely feel rewarded for making it this far with this character. I felt similarly when other Straw Hat pirates achieved their own great personal achievements in the past.

What became clear to me is that those monents were not simply great on their own. They were in fact a reflection of the culmination of how great the story and characters leading up to that point were. When the story and characters are weak, like in Fishman Island, then the resolution will do nothing for me. Case in point: Luffy and the Straw Hats annihilate Hodi Jones and the New Sun Pirates, and my reaction can be summed up as "....I wonder when Hunter X Hunter will come back from its hiatus." In other words, it'll be interesting to see how I feel when Luffy finally defeats Doflamingo.

Perhaps it's wrong to say that Oda doesn't care, but I'm just not feeling it is all. That doesn't mean that I don't care. On the contrary, I wouldn't have stuck with the current run of the series for so long if it didn't mean so much to me in the first place. It's just that I'm getting impatient a bit, and really want to see Oda get the ball rolling on the main story again.

I remember how well the Whitebeard War Saga set up Blackbeard as one of the ultimate villains of the entire series. I remember feeling that I would be so satisfied to see Luffy finally pay him and Akainu back for what happened at Marineford. I just hope that when we finally do get to that point several years from now, those will be more rewarding moments that were well worth the wait.

As for the chemistry thing, easy fix: less new supporting characters in future arcs, more odd tag-team mash-ups, as opposed to one-on-one fights. Remember how fun the Chopper/Usopp or Usopp/Zoro pairings were? I'm still waiting on Usopp/Sanji and Chopper/Brook, among other things, myself. :P
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Markness on March 22, 2015, 10:18:25 AM
I don't know what the general view of Akame ga Kiru! is but I enjoy it. It doesn't reivent the wheel but it does some things a lot better than Bleach and Fairy Tail. The jagged and razor sharp art style reminds me of Needless, Night Raid isn't a Cannon Fodder team, the pacing is nice and smooth, and there is no plot armor for the protagonists.

Toriko's been taking some notes from JoJo's Bizarre Adventure lately. The crazy poses, battle introspection, crazy expressions, and the way Komatsu was revive all bring JJBA to mind.

And yeah, Cartoon X, I am sure great things will come from NnT. I read an interview with Nakaba Suzuki and he talked about growing up on Dragon Ball and wanting to draw a manga that will make people wish the following week would come sooner. I think he's achieved that with NnT since I am always wishing the week would go faster since I have become really attached to the characters. I would like to see some YuYu Hakusho type fights between the Sins and the Ten Commandments but since the latter outnumbers the former, it's more likely we'll see team battles.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 22, 2015, 02:29:58 PM
I've always felt Toriko was a cross of One Piece-esque adventure and world and JoJo's-esque stylization and action. All in all, it feels both modern and old-school when it comes to battle-shonen, which is part of what makes it stand out compared to most of it's other contemporaries, imo.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 22, 2015, 08:30:58 PM
New promo for the Rin-ne anime, featuring the opening song. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tk-IIhOcyR0)

I don't think all of the shown visuals are strictly from the opening; many seem to be bits taken from the show itself. The actual opening will probably have some different scenes. In terms of color, art, etc. the show looks pretty but the actual animation is subpar, much like Assassination Classroom. This might make or break the show depending on what parts they decide to prioritize adapting. As for the opening song, well, it's hardly a "Lum's Love Song" or a "Don't Make Me Wild Like You." It's an average J-pop opening like what InuYasha's first opening was like, though I like it MUCH better than "Change the World" (I can't stand that song). It's decent, not special or great, but Rin-ne is neither of those things either so I guess that's par for the course.

One thing I find really interesting about the opening, though, is that it features Sakura's two friends prominently. They aren't really more active characters compared to other school friend characters in Takahashi's previous works (Kosuke in UY, Akane's friends in Ranma, and Kagome's friends in IY), so the decision to spotlight them is curious. My guess is that they might be given more prominent roles in the anime adaption, perhaps more fleshed-out as characters with more active roles in some stories, akin to what was done with the Stormtroopers in UY. Anime-expanded/exclusive characters in Takahashi anime adaptions have worked out great in the past - Megane was unquestionably a great addition to the cast in the UY anime and Sasuke was a fun character with a great dynamic with Kuno that really improved many of his storylines (as well as make for great anime-original episodes). Treating Sakura's friends in such a manner would be cool and potentially make the school-based stories more interesting thanks to the additional character dynamics to play off of (5 instead of just 3). Of course, I'm probably overblowing this and they wont be any different from how they are in the manga, but it's something I'd like to see.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 22, 2015, 10:19:03 PM
I wasn't sure how I'd feel about the way Assassination Classroom would resolve the fight with Kaede - would they kill her off or would they save her life somehow? The series once again surpassed my expectations on how it would be able to do the latter and make it not feel like a cop-out...and it was gloriously hilarious as it was actually smartly written. This series makes me so happy.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 24, 2015, 12:45:48 PM
Apparently the vast majority of the audience for the opening weekend of the Assassination Classroom movie were women - 90%, half of whom were teenagers. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-03-24/live-action-assassination-classroom-audience-was-90-percent-female-58-percent-teen/.86323)

Interesting statistic. I would have never have guessed the series was overwhelmingly more popular with female audiences in Japan than male.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 24, 2015, 12:53:33 PM
You know, I've been re-reading Rin-ne recently, and the early stuff is a lot stronger and funnier that I thought it was the first time around. If this anime adapts things at a good pace and skips some of the lesser stories that start popping up around the 7th volume, it should be pretty entertaining stuff. I'll probably end up watch it every week no matter what, though. It is a Rumiko Takahashi series, after all.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 24, 2015, 05:43:27 PM
So, in the latest Shonen Jump podcast, they answered a question concerning what their favorite Jump Start series is, and quite a few said Black Clover. So yeah...I think it's pretty obvious which of the recent crop they're going to choose to put in (presumably in the issue after next). I really was hoping for Kagamigami above any of the others, though. Well, hopefully it picks up steam and becomes relatively successful over in Japan so that we can see more of it over here in the future.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 24, 2015, 05:44:59 PM
Tsk. Aw well.

Any word on how the manga are actually doing in Japan yet, by the way?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 25, 2015, 07:04:28 AM
Chapters don't get ranked until 8 weeks after their initial release. We won't know how Kagamigami is doing until the week after next.

Based on the recent rankings, though, I fear for Gakkyu Hotei's lifespan. It's such a unique and fun series, and it'd be a damn shame if it got cancelled. I hope it'll hang on and pick up steam.

Also, rumor has it that a Naruto spinoff manga staring Bolt will be debuting in Jump five weeks from now. Bleh. Though, I'm assuming it'll only be a short series along the lines of Jaco
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 26, 2015, 03:00:48 AM
The Naruto mini-series has been confirmed to start serialization in Weekly Shonen Jump on April 27th. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-03-26/naruto-spinoff-manga-mini-series-to-begin-on-april-27/.86389) Well, I just hope that it remains a mini-series and doesn't overstay it's welcome.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 27, 2015, 09:08:54 AM
Drifters is getting an anime. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-03-27/drifters-manga-by-hellsing-hirano-has-anime-in-the-works/.86435)

Reminds me I need to catch up on that series sometime. Every time I've tried I read up to the end of the first volume and get distracted by other stuff instead of reading more.  :sweat:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 27, 2015, 09:13:30 AM
The conclusion to the battle with Hakuryuu and Judar was actually rather interesting. I'm skeptical that Alibaba and Judar are actually going to die, but at the very least this should snap some sense back to Hakuryuu and move his character arc in a better direction. While the past few months haven't been great for the series, I could see some good things coming from the aftermath of this battle if Ohtaka plays her cards right.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 27, 2015, 09:33:36 AM
I felt that most of the latest OP chapter was kind of wasting time since it was obvious that Law wasn't really dead and even more obvious that his surprise attack would fail being that Oda will always have Luffy finish off the big bad. It's a trope that I'm not the biggest fan of, since it makes things too predictable, but it is what it is. I'm just glad that the arc is finally being wrapped up. Hopefully the fight is at least pretty good.

I will at least give it to Oda that the scene where Luffy casually blocks Doflamingo from curb-stomping Law's head in was drawn very effectively. I definitely got some classic OP vibes with that scene.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 27, 2015, 09:57:10 AM
I thought the chapter was important as an integral piece in Law's character development and drive in this arc, giving him one last big chance to take out Doflamingo on his own. I found the emotional desperation of the attack on Law's part, driven by his desire to finally avenge Corazon, and how he was willing to give up his own life it meant taking Doflamingo down with his own hands, and his irritated despair that Luffy had to save him at the end, very effective and as someone who has been very invested in his character in this arc I could empathize with his plight on a strong level. Luffy keeping Trebol from interfering in the battle, and blocking Doflamingo's foot with his own at the end were also cool moments on his part as well and the trust and respect Luffy and Law have for each other that has been built up in these last two arcs felt payed off here, which made the ending all the more strong. I'm looking forward to seeing the battle between Luffy and Doflamingo all the more now because now Luffy has another personal interest to settle in this fight.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 27, 2015, 10:03:24 AM
Kodansha is going to announce something about the future of their Vinland Saga releases at their panel at Anime Boston next week. And apparently "If you've been waiting for Book Six, it's good news." (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/03/26-1/kodansha-teases-update-on-vinland-saga-release-plans)

This is a huge relief. I'm glad to see they'll be continuing their print releases of the series, at least for now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 27, 2015, 10:22:11 AM
My problem isn't with Law himself, but with how Oda refuses to let anyone other than Luffy take down the big bad. This isn't the first time that this has happened, either. I'd at least settle for them teaming up to take him down as I feel that playing a part in it should be part of Law's character arc.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 27, 2015, 10:29:04 AM
I agree it's about time we had another character besides Luffy take down an arc villain, just to change things up. In the context of this arc I'm okay with it, as Luffy does have a strong beef to pick with Doflamingo as well to justify it, unlike in how these things can go in other series (i.e. Natsu taking down Jellal instead of Erza in FT, and Naruto defeating Kakazu instead of Ino and Choji in Naruto). I'm still expecting that Law will still play a part in Doflamingo's defeat in some way, and would be disappointed if he doesn't.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 27, 2015, 10:31:08 AM
Quote from: Cartoon X on March 27, 2015, 10:03:24 AM
Kodansha is going to announce something about the future of their Vinland Saga releases at their panel at Anime Boston next week. And apparently "If you've been waiting for Book Six, it's good news." (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/03/26-1/kodansha-teases-update-on-vinland-saga-release-plans)

This is a huge relief. I'm glad to see they'll be continuing their print releases of the series, at least for now.
I wonder what the announcement is?

It's still a real shame the series hasn't caught on, but at least they're still giving it a push.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 27, 2015, 10:39:05 AM
I do wonder what their plans are after they catch up, though. Perhaps they will just drop the series after finishing the Ketil Farm arc, which would still be a shame but at least makes for a good cut-off point.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 27, 2015, 11:36:33 AM
Well Spark, you wanted to know, and here it is. The rankings for the March 30th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump are out, featuring the first ranking of Kagamigami!

Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma (Cover, Lead CP)
One Piece (Not ranked. Was absent in issue #11)
1- My Hero Academia
Black Clover (Not ranked)
2- Assassination Classroom
3- Toriko
4- Kagamigami (First ranking)
Nisekoi (Center Color)
Ultra Battle Satellite (Not ranked)
5- Haikyu!!
Gintama (Center Color)
6- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
7- Hinomaru Sumo
8- World Trigger
Cyborg Roggy (Not ranked)
Seraph of the End: Vampire Reign (Special Chapter, Center Color)
9- Bleach
10- Kochikame
11- Takujo no Ageha: The Table Tennis of Ageha
12- Gakkyu Hotei: School Judgment
The Story of Isobe Isobee

A #4 debut is pretty good, so I think it'll do fine for the forseeable future. The fact that the unranked BC is placed above it in the magazine, though, tells me that series is probably going to have an even better first ranking next week.

I weep for Gakkyu Hotei. It's probably going to get axed in a couple weeks. Damn shame, since it's such an incredibly fun and entertaining series. Seeing it go so early when it has so much potential really blows.  :imnothappy:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 27, 2015, 12:03:13 PM
Wow Bleach is low.

Glad to see that it did fairly well. Hopefully it'll have a long an prosperous run.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 27, 2015, 12:23:59 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 27, 2015, 12:03:13 PMWow Bleach is low.

Actually, I'm surprised to even see it in the single digits. It has been lower than that numerous times before.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 27, 2015, 12:38:14 PM
Bleach has routinely ranked in the bottom 5 for the past 5 years. Very rarely is there a week where it gets any higher. It's still in the bottom 5 this week. It's ranking might be #9...but there's a ton of series that weren't ranked this week and put ahead of it in the magazine, so that doesn't mean much.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 27, 2015, 07:49:49 PM
Man, every time a new Silver Spoon chapter comes out I get all excited and joyous. Then I finish the chapter and have to deal with the fact I have to wait an uncertain amount of time until the next one finally comes out. The fact that the latest one was the first to come out in over four months makes it all the more frustrating. :'(
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 27, 2015, 08:08:43 PM
Well, at least you don't have to wait a year for each new release, like a certain other manga that I happen to follow. ;)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 27, 2015, 08:13:01 PM
Sure, but Silver Spoon's chapters are always great, so it hurts me much much harder.  :gonk:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 27, 2015, 08:18:43 PM
I've never read a bad chapter of REAL. :whuh:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 27, 2015, 08:28:52 PM
Well, I wasn't saying there weren't other manga that also have a consistently great output that I have to wait a long time for. Though, with Silver Spoon it's more painful for me because I have no idea when the next chapter will possibly come out, while with REAL I can always count on Viz to release a new volume on time every fall (ditto for the scantalaters every spring).  ;)

That reminds me that the new set of chapters of REAL should get translated any day sometime in the next two months. I can't wait to read 'em!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 27, 2015, 08:37:38 PM
So, I guess that what you're trying to say that we can REALly count on REAL to be released within REAListically reasonable periods of time thanks to REALly devoted fans and translators of REAL, both unofficial ones as well as REAL employees of Viz. :>
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 27, 2015, 08:51:27 PM
Yup. That's a REALly good way of describing it. :e_wink:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Foggle on March 27, 2015, 08:53:20 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 27, 2015, 08:37:38 PM
So, I guess that what you're trying to say that we can REALly count on REAL to be released within REAListically reasonable periods of time thanks to REALly devoted fans and translators of REAL, both unofficial ones as well as REAL employees of Viz. :>
A+ post
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Markness on March 28, 2015, 01:10:29 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on March 27, 2015, 09:08:54 AM
Drifters is getting an anime. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-03-27/drifters-manga-by-hellsing-hirano-has-anime-in-the-works/.86435)

Reminds me I need to catch up on that series sometime. Every time I've tried I read up to the end of the first volume and get distracted by other stuff instead of reading more.  :sweat:

:e_love: :el_heart: :h_very_happy: Right on! Blood Blockade Battlefront is getting one as well! Both are excellent successors to Hellsing and Trigun respectively. Kouta Hirano and Yasuhiro Nightow should also do a collaboration.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Markness on March 29, 2015, 12:42:18 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on March 22, 2015, 02:29:58 PM
I've always felt Toriko was a cross of One Piece-esque adventure and world and JoJo's-esque stylization and action. All in all, it feels both modern and old-school when it comes to battle-shonen, which is part of what makes it stand out compared to most of it's other contemporaries, imo.

Yeah, that's a good way to put it. Manly characters going around and fucking shit up.

Nanatsu no Taizai is like Dragon Ball[/] type action mixed with Berserk[/] but in a lighter tone than that manga. I just read the Escanor gaiden and it was quite a blast. Not only did we learn about Escanor and the nature of his power, we also got some big revelations about the story's background.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 30, 2015, 12:35:08 PM
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg1.ak.crunchyroll.com%2Fi%2Fspire1%2F5f2354cbe485c295be293f25d840d77c1427734303_full.png&hash=d2b1ad2aee187887889dccd1f446c34f196e398e)

As I expected. Oh well. All Kagamigami has to do is become popular and last a while, and we should see it added back to Jump or at least get licensed for graphic novel releases, so hopefully things pan out that way.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 30, 2015, 12:36:58 PM
Meh.

Oh well, here's hoping it does well and gets better.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on March 30, 2015, 11:14:35 PM
Amazon has Vinland Saga Volume 6 listed for September 1st and Volume 7 for December 1st. (http://www.amazon.com/Vinland-Saga-6-Makoto-Yukimura/dp/1612628036/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1427774997&sr=8-2&keywords=vinland+saga+6)

Also, Dark Horse has picked up Planetes and will be releasing it in an Omnibus format this December. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/03/30/dark-horse-to-collect-omnibus-of-award-winning-planetes-sci-fi-manga)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 31, 2015, 12:13:36 AM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on March 30, 2015, 11:14:35 PM
Amazon has Vinland Saga Volume 6 listed for September 1st and Volume 7 for December 1st. (http://www.amazon.com/Vinland-Saga-6-Makoto-Yukimura/dp/1612628036/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1427774997&sr=8-2&keywords=vinland+saga+6)

Also, Dark Horse has picked up Planetes and will be releasing it in an Omnibus format this December. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/03/30/dark-horse-to-collect-omnibus-of-award-winning-planetes-sci-fi-manga)
Now this is news I can get behind. Finally an easy way to get all of Planetes!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 31, 2015, 12:32:49 PM
No doubt you're happy about that, eh Vlord?  ;) Great news indeed for Makoto Yukimura fans!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 31, 2015, 12:37:52 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 30, 2015, 12:36:58 PM
Meh.

Oh well, here's hoping it does well and gets better.

To be fair, Black Clover has about as good a start as Kagamigami quality-wise. The latter's sense of humor and the female lead Mako were really the main reasons I would have preferred it being added in instead. I think both series have potential to improve and become really strong as they go on, so hopefully both will, and Kagamigami eventually finds it's way back into the english Shonen Jump.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 31, 2015, 12:38:56 PM
Noragami's getting a second anime season. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-03-31/noragami-supernatural-tv-anime-gets-2nd-season/.86564)

Reminds me I still need to finish the first, and catch up with the manga.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 31, 2015, 05:46:52 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on March 31, 2015, 12:37:52 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 30, 2015, 12:36:58 PM
Meh.

Oh well, here's hoping it does well and gets better.

To be fair, Black Clover has about as good a start as Kagamigami quality-wise. The latter's sense of humor and the female lead Mako were really the main reasons I would have preferred it being added in instead. I think both series have potential to improve and become really strong as they go on, so hopefully both will, and Kagamigami eventually finds it's way back into the english Shonen Jump.
Oh, don't get me wrong. I don't think it's awful or anything. It just doesn't interest me right now, but that could change in the future. Kagamigami just intrigues me more as a concept and that I know the author's abilities.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 02, 2015, 12:04:15 PM
Here are the rankings for the April 6th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

My Hero Academia (Lead CP)
1- One Piece
2- Haikyu!!
3- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
World Trigger (Not ranked. Was absent in issue #12)
4- Gintama
5- Kagamigami
6- Nisekoi
Assassination Classroom (Center Color)
7- Hinomaru Sumo
8- Black Clover (first ranking)
9- Toriko
10- Bleach
One Shot: Ultimate Ball Dance (Center Color, 49 p.)
11- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
Cyborg Roggy (Not ranked)
12- Kochikame
Ultra Battle Satellite (Not ranked)
13- Gakkyu Hotei: School Judgment
14- Takujo no Ageha: The Table Tennis of Ageha
The Story of Isobe Isobee

Hmm, Black Clover's debut was lower than Kagamigami's. Perhaps Viz chose the wrong series to pick up after all.  :sly:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 02, 2015, 12:11:12 PM
lol

I do hope it maintains that ranking. The series is looking pretty good so far.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 02, 2015, 12:47:34 PM
FUNi has licensed the Heroic Legend of Arslan anime. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-04-02/funimation-adds-the-heroic-legend-of-arslan-anime/.86666)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 03, 2015, 04:12:26 PM
Crunchyroll's got Shokugeki no Soma (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-04-03/crunchyroll-streams-food-wars-shokugeki-no-soma-anime/.86722) and FUNi's got Blood Blockade Battlefront (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-04-03/funimation-adds-blood-blockade-battlefront-anime/.86724). The first episode of the former is already up, so I'll be watching it during diner tonight (it's only appropriate). Still waiting on news about Rin-ne. I'll be surprised if Viz doesn't pick it up for streaming.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 03, 2015, 04:15:36 PM
Has anyone licensed the newer HxH anime yet? And if not, uh, why not?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 03, 2015, 04:32:02 PM
Same reasons why no one's licensed JoJo's, probably.  :>
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 03, 2015, 04:39:09 PM
HXH makes sense since the '99 anime did poorly over here (although, I blame that on a bad dub and marketing), and Viz doesn't want to take a chance again, whereas FUNi already has its hands full with an ongoing long-running shonen anime in One Piece, so they are probably looking for smaller projects.

In JoJo's case, I'm not sure why they haven't snapped it up yet.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 03, 2015, 04:42:00 PM
Justin Cook as Knuckle would break the universe in two, probably.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 03, 2015, 04:44:40 PM
I was thinking of Chris Sabat as Knuckle since he reminds me more of Kuwabara.

I could also see Eric Vale doing a good Leorio. I'd need to think about the rest, though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 03, 2015, 04:49:09 PM
Chuck Huber as Feitan at least.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 03, 2015, 04:58:52 PM
Well, that's a no-brainer. :D

Hisoka is an odd one. I have no idea who could really play him in English.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 03, 2015, 05:02:17 PM
I'd say either Steve Blum or Vic Mignogna would be good choices for him.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 03, 2015, 05:02:28 PM
I could have even gone more obvious with Robert McCollum as Chrollo.

But Hisoka is probably the hardest one to cast. Maybe Chris Sabat would work as he tends to always fit for hard to cast characters.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 03, 2015, 05:03:10 PM
Also, if there's any role that Justin Cook should play, it would have to be Ging, for obvious reasons. ;)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 03, 2015, 05:06:41 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on April 03, 2015, 05:02:17 PM
I'd say either Steve Blum or Vic Mignogna would be good choices for him.

Funny enough, I was actually just thinking about Steve Blum being a good choice since he has done great villain roles outside of just anime, like Green Goblin from TSSM and Amon from TLOK,  plus he can do a good psychotic voice like Orochimaru from Naruto (I'm not saying that I like the show or character, but rather Blum's performance alone).

I could see him pulling it off.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 03, 2015, 05:09:08 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 03, 2015, 05:02:28 PMI could have even gone more obvious with Robert McCollum as Chrollo.

Yep.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 03, 2015, 05:09:26 PM
Steven Blum should be Meruem and Vic Mignogna should be Kaito.

In my opinion, anyway.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 03, 2015, 07:35:34 PM
Well, the first episode of the Soma anime was disappointing. I should have known not to trust J.C. Staff to not play up the fanservice or execute the material with the same energy and humor of the manga. Adding in excessive boob shots, making the tentacle scene like 30 seconds long with a lot of creepy imagery, and extending the over the top foodgasm moments too much...they've seem to have completely missed what made them work, and amusing, in the manga.

I can probably expect similar mediocrity from the Yamada-kun adaption. I think I really need to stop getting hyped for the anime adaptions of manga I like. There hasn't been one that didn't disappoint me in a long time.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 03, 2015, 07:48:44 PM
J.C. Staff also did the Bakuman anime, which I consider to be a massive screwup of an adaptation, so, I'm not surprised.

In general, very few modern adaptations of long-running shonen anime truly get it right, anymore. Gone are the days of AnJ/2, Yu Yu Hakusho, Hunter X Hunter '99, Hajime no Ippo, and other long series adaptations where good directors and writers actually improve upon the source material in meaningful ways, or even at least do enough interesting stuff to make for a worthwhile watch even if you have read the manga already, like with Dragon Ball.

Now we have mostly adaptations that, at best, are safe copy/paste adaptations of their source material without any mind to try and take some creative liberties to improve upon it or at least make it feel a little different. Hunter X Hunter '11 and Magi are goid examples of that. They make maybe a couple of positive or negative changes, and the rest is just a carbon-copy of the manga.

Of course there are always exceptions, like with Haikyuu, but a good adaptation of a so-so manga is hardly anything to celebrate, IMO.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 03, 2015, 08:01:02 PM
Yeah, in all of Bakuman's problems can be seen with the first OP. It had next to nothing to do with the actual story.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Foggle on April 03, 2015, 08:08:29 PM
I thought the Magi anime was supposed to be fairly different from the manga.

But yeah, you can blame the internet for how most modern adaptations either play it safe or amp up the fanservice. Anime fans are quick to anger at the slightest alteration to the source material... unless it lets them see more bouncing boobs, of course.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 03, 2015, 08:17:56 PM
There are a couple of changed scenes and minor alterations to how things happen in the Magi anime (mostly in the first season, where quite a bit of the first arc and the last arc were overhauled), but it still follows the same basic story of the manga. The changes are often more ways of abridging the material than genuinely improving it, though I think the first season of the anime does actually improve on those two arcs it significantly changed.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 03, 2015, 08:27:46 PM
Quote from: Foggle on April 03, 2015, 08:08:29 PMI thought the Magi anime was supposed to be fairly different from the manga.

Season 1 cuts out a fair amount of stuff, but it doesn't change anything too significant, from what I recall. Season 2 is basically a straighter adaptation of the manga.

QuoteBut yeah, you can blame the internet for how most modern adaptations either play it safe or amp up the fanservice. Anime fans are quick to anger at the slightest alteration to the source material... unless it lets them see more bouncing boobs, of course.

I remember I once had the "bright idea" of trying to reason with people on MAL of why HXH '99 was a better adaptation, but no matter what my points were, the argument they literally always gave me was that the new anime was better simply because it was just like the manga and didn't dare to change anything. When I pointed out that the old anime actually did a great job of expanding on the characters, and improving on some aspects of Togashi's writing, they said that I simply didn't understand that Togashi is an "eccentric" writer and didn't really have any flaws in his writing. Apparently I just couldn't understand that....

As the self-proclaimed biggest Togashi fan in the West, I can say with absolute certainty that anyone who thinks that he's perfect is full of shit. It's around that time that it truly hit me how horridly narrowminded that site's userbase is, and needless to say, I've never gone back there since then.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Foggle on April 03, 2015, 08:30:50 PM
 :whuh: :whuh: :whuh: That sounds horrible. It reminds me of the time I positively compared a picture of Revy being crazy to an image of Ash from Evil Dead 2. No one there knew who Bruce Campbell was and some folks bashed me for insulting their waifu. :lol:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 03, 2015, 08:39:06 PM
I also miss it when adaptations could greatly be altered from their source material and still be hailed as great. While I'm not a huge fan of them, stuff like the first FMA anime and Ghost in the Shell were really different from the manga, but still considered great by many.

The same goes for stuff like Akira and Trigun. Very different, but still classics in their own right.

Granted that, only one of those is a shonen, but my point still stands.

JoJo's Bizarre Adventure is another good adaptation, but it'd have to be since it was only made because the people who are behind it really wanted to make it and actually give a shit about doing the original material justice, considering that the early parts of the manga are decades old, now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on April 03, 2015, 08:48:18 PM
Yeah, the David Productions staff is apparently comprised of hardcore JoJo's fans.

On a completely different note, The Silver Spoon manga is returning to its regular release schedule this month. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/04/03/silver-spoon-manga-returning-this-month)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 03, 2015, 08:49:05 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 03, 2015, 08:27:46 PM
Season 1 cuts out a fair amount of stuff, but it doesn't change anything too significant, from what I recall. Season 2 is basically a straighter adaptation of the manga.

The most significant changes the first season made were abridging the chapters before Aladdin and Alibaba enter the first dungeon they visit and reworking them into a single episode, Ithnan replacing the unnamed weapons dealer from the manga in the Balbadd arc (when he originally didn't appear in the manga until the Zazan arc), and completely changing the ending to the Zazan arc with the Alma Thoran members attacking Sindria and fighting Sinbad's generals while the gang is still in Zazan as opposed to ambushing them after they left it and their mentors coming to their rescue in the manga, and of course Alibaba transforming into a dark djinn and that whole business, including moving Aladdin's meeting with Ithnan to the aftermath of that sequence, and in Alibaba's mind and not Dunya's like in the manga. All changes that were for the better, imo. But also changes that, of course, were bashed by die-hard fans of the manga on the MAL forums.  :>

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 03, 2015, 08:39:06 PM
While I'm not a huge fan of them, stuff like the first FMA anime and Ghost in the Shell were really different from the manga, but still considered great by many.

The GITS movie actually follows the main plot of the manga pretty faithfully, just abridging it to fit in the most essential elements in a 90-minute movie. Subsequent iterations of the franchise are re-interpretations like the various Lupin anime.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 03, 2015, 08:50:13 PM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on April 03, 2015, 08:48:18 PM
On a completely different note, The Silver Spoon manga is returning to its regular release schedule this month. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/04/03/silver-spoon-manga-returning-this-month)

:swoon:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 03, 2015, 08:53:57 PM
Wow, I actually liked all those things in the Magi anime.

Guess I'm not a proper fan.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Foggle on April 03, 2015, 09:09:10 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on April 03, 2015, 08:49:05 PM
The GITS movie actually follows the main plot of the manga pretty faithfully,
It's sooooooo much better though. The manga is just bleh.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 03, 2015, 09:18:09 PM
I thought the first volume (which the movie adapts) was a good read, but yeah, I agree the movie (and all of the other anime interpretations) are definitely superior, which is true of basically all of Shirow's manga, tbh. And the less said about the second volume of the GITS manga, the better.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Foggle on April 03, 2015, 09:21:50 PM
I really wish Rikdo wasn't wasting his talent on drawing Shirow's loli ecchi for him. :(
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 03, 2015, 09:29:44 PM
I wish we could have had a longer Tank Police anime.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 03, 2015, 09:39:34 PM
While we're at it, why not list good adaptations that either improve on their source material or at least do something to stand out from it, as well as the mediocre to bad adaptations:

Good:
Ashita no Joe/2
Full Metal Panic! The Second Raid
Trigun
Hunter X Hunter '99
Ghost in the Shell
Akira
Dragon Ball
Haikyuu
Slam Dunk
Yu Yu Hakusho
Magi (Season 1)
Rurouni Kenshin (Kyoto and Trust & Betrayal)
Fullmetal Alchemist
Hajime no Ippo (Season 1)
Death Note
Great Teacher Onizuka
Black Lagoon
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Level E
Kids on the Slope
Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works

Acceptable:
Monster
Hunter X Hunter '11
Space Brothers
Magi (season 2)
Sinbad OVAs
Hikaru no Go

Bad:
Bakuman
World Trigger
Sailor Moon Crystal
Kuroko no Basket
Baby Steps
Eyeshield 21
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 03, 2015, 09:46:04 PM
Trigun reminds me. Has anyone been keeping up with Blood Blockade Battlefront? I haven't heard anything much about it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Foggle on April 03, 2015, 09:49:37 PM
Worse Than Bad:
Umineko
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 03, 2015, 10:08:44 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 03, 2015, 09:46:04 PM
Trigun reminds me. Has anyone been keeping up with Blood Blockade Battlefront? I haven't heard anything much about it.

I've heard mixed things about the manga, myself. I know Markness is keeping up with it and likes it, though. I plan to check it out for myself at some point, and I plan to keep up with the anime for at least the first few episodes.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 03, 2015, 10:25:51 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 03, 2015, 09:39:34 PM
While we're at it, why not list good adaptations that either improve on their source material or at least do something to stand out from it, as well as the mediocre to bad adaptations:

Good:
Ashita no Joe/2
Full Metal Panic! The Second Raid
Trigun
Hunter X Hunter '99
Ghost in the Shell
Akira
Dragon Ball
Haikyuu
Slam Dunk
Yu Yu Hakusho
Magi (Season 1)
Rurouni Kenshin (Kyoto and Trust & Betrayal)
Fullmetal Alchemist
Hajime no Ippo (Season 1)
Death Note
Great Teacher Onizuka
Black Lagoon
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure
Level E
Kids on the Slope
Fate/Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works

Acceptable:
Monster
Hunter X Hunter '11
Space Brothers
Magi (season 2)
Sinbad OVAs
Hikaru no Go

Bad:
Bakuman
World Trigger
Sailor Moon Crystal
Kuroko no Basket
Baby Steps
Eyeshield 21

Adding to the list:

Good:

Urusei Yatsura
Maison Ikkoku
Ranma 1/2
InuYasha: The Final Act
Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood
Silver Spoon
Princess Jellyfish
Azumanga Daioh
BECK: Mongolian Chop Squad
Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo (first season)
Detroit Metal City
Gintama
Barefoot Gen (first movie)
Hetalia (first season)
Mushi-shi
Planetes
School Rumble
Ouran High School Host Club
Slayers (first three seasons)
Space Adventure Cobra
Knights of Sidonia
Nausicaa of the Valley of the Wind
The Disappearance of Haruhi Suzumiya

Acceptable:

Dragon Ball Kai
Assassination Classroom
Sailor Moon (Original anime)
Attack on Titan
Parasyte -the maxim-
Slayers Revolution & Evolution-R
Soul Eater
The Seven Deadly Sins
The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (first season)

Bad:

Dragon Ball Z
Dragon Ball Kai (Buu Saga)
Nisekoi
Bleach
Naruto
Naruto Shippuden
Deadman Wonderland
Medaka Box
Yu-Gi-Oh!
InuYasha
The Melancholy of Haruhi Suzumiya (second season)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Foggle on April 03, 2015, 10:45:54 PM
Can we put Lupin III under Good or is it too different from the source material to count?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 03, 2015, 10:46:59 PM
Quote from: Foggle on April 03, 2015, 10:45:54 PM
Can we put Lupin III under Good or is it too different from the source material to count?
Which version?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Foggle on April 03, 2015, 10:48:50 PM
All of the TV series except Part 3. And a couple of the films.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 03, 2015, 10:49:13 PM
I think we can put the good series under the good category because they are good interpretations of the source material, even though they don't really adapt any chapters from the original manga in a recognizable manner.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 03, 2015, 11:20:21 PM
I'm surprised to see you acknowledge DBZ as a bad adaptation, CX. :humhumhum:

I'd also add HD-era One Piece to the list of bad ones, and the SD-era to acceptable.

Of course there are always stand-out episodes here and there. For instance, the Marineford arc was a huge disappointment in the anime (screwing up such an iconic and memorable arc is where my hatred for Toei first began), but I remember that they randomly had good directors and animators working on certain episodes, so we occasionally got brilliant moments in the lackluster adaptation of the arc that did it justice for at least what those few episodes adapted. Episode 474 is a perfect example. I mean, just look at how good the animation, camera angles, and use of music is in it. On that end, they did a scene that wasn't nearly one of the biggest moments in the arc for me, and somehow made it seem like it was just that epic and important:

http://youtu.be/CiQGRquk4VU (ignore everything from after the 3:00 mark, that's from the next, poorly directed episode)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 03, 2015, 11:25:55 PM
I don't know where to put DBZ, now that I think about it. Plenty of scenes and moments in the anime hold up great, but most of the episodes as a whole are hard to sit through. I'd have to rewatch the entire anime again to properly evaluate it, but since I have no motivation to do that, I'll say the cons outweigh the positives since it's not nearly as good an experience as the manga, or even the first season of Kai.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 04, 2015, 05:54:15 PM
Yowamushi Pedal and Monthly Girls Nozaki-kun (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-04-04/yen-press-licenses-yowamushi-pedal-monthly-girls-nozaki-kun-11-more-manga/.86764) have gotten licensed by Yen Press. Which reminds me that I should finally get on checking them out once some time clears up.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 05, 2015, 12:27:39 AM
So, according to Kodansha their license for Vinland Saga only covers through the seventh volume. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/04/04/kodansha-announces-new-manga-licenses-and-plans) Whether they'll release more after that depends on how well the next two books sell. At least if they do have to cut it off after the 7th book, they'll have covered through the entirety of the Ketil Farm arc, which works well enough for a satisfying cut-off point.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 05, 2015, 11:48:00 AM
Dead Dead Demon's Dededededestruction is back. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-04-05/inio-asano-resumes-dead-dead-demon-dededededestruction-manga/.86779) Billy Bat's back from it's hiatus too, as is Silver Spoon. And the new volume of REAL should get translated this month. And all the good regular series I follow are in a really great place....holy shit, April is going to be an AMAZING month of manga! I swear, every month in this year so far has managed to top the last. 2015 might end up being the very best year of manga I've ever experienced!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 05, 2015, 11:54:29 AM
One Piece also might be getting better this year once the Dressrossa arc is over, provided that Oda manages to focus his story on the Straw Hats again and takes them to what I believe is thete next obvious destination given what happened with Big Mom.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 05, 2015, 05:02:02 PM
Oda focusing the story back on the Straw Hats properly is what I've been waiting for ever since the timeskip started. I'll believe it when I see it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 09, 2015, 09:58:27 AM
Rankings for the April 13th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

Gintama (Cover, Lead CP)
1- Assassination Classroom
2- One Piece
3- Black Clover
4- Haikyu!!
5- My Hero Academia
Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma (Center Color)
6- Kagamigami
7- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
8- Hinomaru Sumo
9- Nisekoi
Blood Blockade Battlefront (Special Chapter, Center Color, 20 p.)
Ultra Battle Satellite (Not ranked)
10- World Trigger
11- Bleach
12- Kochikame
13- Cyborg Roggy (First ranking)
14- Takujo no Ageha: The Table Tennis of Ageha
15- Gakkyu Hotei: School Judgment
The Story of Isobe Isobee

Whoa, BC shot up this week. Maybe Viz didn't choose wrong after all.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 09, 2015, 12:15:08 PM
Crunchy's got the Yamada-kun anime. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-04-09/crunchyroll-adds-yamada-kun-and-the-seven-witches-anime/.86943) I await it with trepidation.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 09, 2015, 03:22:13 PM
Blood Blockade Battlefront was in Jump? Was this a cross promotional thing?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 09, 2015, 03:29:03 PM
It was a special chapter that I presume was run in promotion of the anime. Blood Blockade Battlefront itself was published in the recently defunct Jump SQ.19, and will continue to be published in a as of yet unnamed Jump Square imprint coming out in July.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 15, 2015, 09:45:15 PM
The next set of Jump Starts are planned to start at the beginning of May, two issues from now. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/04/12-1/bakuman-movie-poster-and-date-revealed) Which basically means Gakkyu Hotei's only got 4 chapters left at most. Sigh.  :imnothappy: Well, hopefully these new debuts prove a promising bunch.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 17, 2015, 02:03:35 PM
Here are the rankings for the April 20th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

Nisekoi (Cover, Lead CP)
1- My Hero Academia
2- Assassination Classroom
3- Toriko
4- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
5- Black Clover
6- Gintama
Haikyu!! (Center Color)
7- World Trigger
8- Hinomaru Sumo
Haeniwa no Zig Zag [One-Shot] (Center Color, 47 p.)
9- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
Kagamigami (Center Color)
10- Kochikame
11- Ultra Battle Satellite (First ranking)
12- Gakkyu Hotei: School Judgment
One-Shot (15 p.)
13- Cyborg Roggy
14- Takujo no Ageha: The Table Tennis of Ageha
The Story of Isobe Isobee
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 17, 2015, 03:09:40 PM
Neither Bleach or One Piece was there this week?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 17, 2015, 03:15:04 PM
Nope. Both took the week off.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 20, 2015, 12:00:58 PM
If you think I'm out of date, I just had a friend tell me he was enjoying a certain series and was certain it wouldn't be long for this world. He was sure it wasn't popular.

It was My Hero Academia.

:hayguyz:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 21, 2015, 03:40:54 PM
The official Weekly Shonen Jump podcast has finally made it to 100 episodes! (http://shonenjump.viz.com/blog/posts/sj-podcast-ep-100) Probably my favorite part of this one was when Urian Brown ranted about Fairy Tail ripping off One Piece.  :D
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 21, 2015, 10:00:20 PM
Man, this has just been a great week of manga so far. Pretty much everything I follow weekly has been really strong recently, but this week especially feels satisfying to read. If I was still doing those ranking lists I probably would have rated every chapter over a 9 (besides the obvious ones, of course).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 23, 2015, 07:41:04 PM
Here are the rankings for the April 27th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

One Piece (Lead CP)
1- Assassination Classroom
2- Haikyu!!
Naruto: The Seventh Hokage and the Scarlet Spring (New Series, Center Color, 23 p.)
3- Hinomaru Sumo
4- My Hero Academia
Black Clover (Center Color)
5- Toriko
6- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
7- Kagamigami
8- Gintama
Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma (Normal Chapter and Special Chapter)
9- Ultra Battle Satellite
10- Nisekoi
11- World Trigger
12- Bleach
13- Kochikame
14- Cyborg Roggy
15- Gakkyu Hotei: School Judgment
16- Takujo no Ageha: The Table Tennis of Ageha (END)
The Story of Isobe Isobee

Gakkyu Hotei will probably end in the next issue, and I will go into a deep state of depression once it does.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 23, 2015, 07:50:08 PM
World Trigger's looking a bit low there.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 23, 2015, 07:58:32 PM
World Trigger tends to rank in the middle, usually managing not to drop low enough to be in danger of cancellation.

The way I figure, so long as a series doesn't rank below Bleach and Kochikame for consecutive weeks, it's safe.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 23, 2015, 08:01:05 PM
I love how Bleach has essentially become the benchmark of shit on the measuring stick of WSJ series' quality that is the weekly popularity rankings. :lol:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 23, 2015, 08:05:11 PM
Kubo needs to take some writing classes when he finishes Bleach. There's no real chance he's going to get lucky like this again.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 23, 2015, 08:06:54 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 23, 2015, 08:01:05 PM
I love how Bleach has essentially become the benchmark of shit on the measuring stick of WSJ series' quality that is the weekly popularity rankings. :lol:

It's a terrible benchmark of "quality," since Gakkyu Hotei is fucking amazing and shouldn't be ranking below it, much less ranking near the bottom of the rankings, and getting cancelled so prematurely as a consequence.  :srs:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 23, 2015, 08:21:05 PM
I just meant that it's funny that Bleach is now the "death mark" (the point that no series wants to cross), considering how massively popular it used to be.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 23, 2015, 08:30:51 PM
Oh, it's still popular. Some people consider it a masterpiece, remember.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 24, 2015, 05:04:05 PM
To no one's surprise, Assassination Classroom is getting a second anime season and a second live-action film. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-04-24/assassination-classroom-gets-2nd-anime-season-sequel-live-action-film/.87477) Interestingly, though, the second film is titled "Graduation." Another sign that the series is nearing it's conclusion? Hmm...
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 24, 2015, 05:28:25 PM
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/69543ce399d78958851809dc9abda8a1/tumblr_nnc0w9CrDO1r6toezo1_500.jpg)

Wow. It took over three fucking years for him to finally show up, and it's underwhelming as shit.

Though frankly, I'm surprised Kubo even remembered he built up his return in the first place.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 24, 2015, 05:44:45 PM
I remember when reading the Impel Down and Enies Lobby arcs of One Piece how all of the returning characters were such a big deal. The key to re-introducing a popular character is a combination of good buildup while also somehow having them reveal themselves in an unexpected way. It seems like Kubo doesn't understand that (and Oda just flat-out forgot how to do it given how underwhelming Sabo's reveal was).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 24, 2015, 05:50:57 PM
I'm surprised he remembered. Only took three years.

I guess Rynnec will be happy, if he still cares.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 25, 2015, 10:50:39 AM
So, apparently this is what Kakashi looks like under his mask. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2015-04-25/kakashi-full-face-finally-revealed-for-all-the-world-to-see/.87519)

(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.animenewsnetwork.com%2Fthumbnails%2Fmax600x600%2Fcms%2Finterest%2F87519%2Fkakashi-1.jpeg&hash=a15f87d5d4975f9d3c24bcb04b4ecedf352640f0)

How wonderfully boring.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 25, 2015, 10:53:57 AM
Akira Toriyama is teaming up with Masakazu Katsura to start new manga to run in Young Jump. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-04-25/dragon-ball-toriyama-video-girl-ai-katsura-collaborate-on-new-manga/.87523) Probably won't be a long-running series, but as a fan of Toriyama's work I'll have to keep my eyes out for it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 28, 2015, 02:45:28 PM
Any episode of the Weekly Shonen Jump podcast where Jason Thompson guest stars is glorious and a must-listen. (http://shonenjump.viz.com/blog/posts/sj-podcast-ep-101)

Anyways, in yesterday's podcast, a question about whether Kagamigami can be added to the english Jump was addressed. They've received many requests for it, and are considering adding it, but there's nothing set at this time. Their advice to support getting it in is basically to send them more requests for it via comments, social media, etc. and show strong continued interest in seeing the series being added. Sounds good to me. Who knows, they might add it in to replace Gakkyu Hotei, since it's time is almost up. (... :cry:)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 30, 2015, 06:18:13 PM
Seven Seas has licensed Orange (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-04-30/seven-seas-licenses-shojo-time-travel-romance-manga-orange/.87699).

Considering it's the most well-liked shojo title currently running (if it's MAL score means anything), it's about time that someone licensed it. I wasn't expecting to hear confirmation that the series will end soon, though considering recent events in the series, that's not much of a surprise.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 30, 2015, 11:24:34 PM
Well, it's been confirmed. Gakkyu Hotei will run it's last chapter in the next issue of Jump. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/04/30-1/shonen-jump-reportedly-ending-takujo-no-agehaa-cyborg-roggy-and-gakkyuu-houtei)

:el_cry:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 30, 2015, 11:50:44 PM
I'm sorry, man.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Markness on May 01, 2015, 01:38:47 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on April 24, 2015, 05:28:25 PM
(https://40.media.tumblr.com/69543ce399d78958851809dc9abda8a1/tumblr_nnc0w9CrDO1r6toezo1_500.jpg)

Wow. It took over three fucking years for him to finally show up, and it's underwhelming as shit.

Though frankly, I'm surprised Kubo even remembered he built up his return in the first place.

Typical Kubo. Drops his characters, gives little to no explanation for their absence, and abruptly brings them back out of nowhere. I am no hurry to see how Bleach ends and I am glad I stopped following it regularly. On another forum I post on, a fanboy of Bleach said Nanatsu no Taizai, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, and Toriko were garbage. Wow, his tastes are pretty shallow.   :wth:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 15, 2015, 05:50:04 PM
Here are the rankings for the May 18th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

Lady Justice (Cover, Lead CP, New Series, 54 p.)
1- One Piece
2- Black Clover
Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club (Center Color, 25 p.)
3- Assassination Classroom
4- Haikyu!!
My Hero Academia (Center Color)
Naruto: The Seventh Hokage and the Scarlet Spring
5- Gintama
6- Toriko
7- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma (Center Color)
8- Hinomaru Sumo
9- Kagamigami
10- Nisekoi
World Trigger (Not ranked. Was absent in issue #17)
11- Kochikame
12- Ultra Battle Satellite
13- Bleach
The Story of Isobe Isobee

Wow, Black Clover has gotten really popular really fast. I'm surprised, since I feel like the series hasn't quite found it's niche/shown it's potential yet, but that's certainly impressive.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 15, 2015, 06:22:36 PM
Impressive.

Maybe it'll replace Bleach as one of the Big 3?  :awesome:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 15, 2015, 06:34:16 PM
There never was a "Big 3" in Japan, and Bleach hasn't been one of the "Big 3" in the West for several years, now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 15, 2015, 06:48:26 PM
I knew that, I was joking. Just laughing at the fact that it's dead last in the rankings. It's about time to wrap it up, isn't it?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on May 15, 2015, 08:10:50 PM
If Bleach continues to take an ungodly amount of time to end,  I wouldn't be surprised if Shueisha moved it to Jump+ or some other magazine. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 18, 2015, 10:17:45 PM
To celebrate their 2-year anniversary, this week's Weekly Shonen Jump podcast is a special video episode! (http://shonenjump.viz.com/blog/posts/sj-podcast-104-video-special)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Markness on May 19, 2015, 06:22:28 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 15, 2015, 06:48:26 PM
I knew that, I was joking. Just laughing at the fact that it's dead last in the rankings. It's about time to wrap it up, isn't it?

The same Bleach fanboy I mentioned earlier has this strange dillusion that Bleach is the number one manga in Japan in terms of popularity and sales despite the statistics showing One Piece is still number one while Bleach has been dropping in both rankings steadily.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 21, 2015, 06:39:15 PM
Here are the rankings for the May 25th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

Devily Man (Cover, Lead CP, New Series, 54 p.)
1- One Piece
2- Assassination Classroom
Lady Justice (Center Color, 25 p.)
3- My Hero Academia
4- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
Haikyu!! (Center Color)
Naruto: The Seventh Hokage and the Scarlet Spring
5- Hinomaru Sumo
Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club (23 p., not ranked)
6- Black Clover
7- Toriko
Nisekoi (Center Color)
8- Gintama
9- Kagamigami
10- World Trigger
11- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
12- Bleach
13- Kochikame
14- Ultra Battle Satellite
The Story of Isobe Isobee
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 21, 2015, 06:48:16 PM
Man, if anything else gets canceled before Bleach I could totally understand the complaints. Longevity shouldn't count if you've spent a chunk of your run at the bottom of the popularity rankings.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 21, 2015, 07:23:44 PM
I'm guessing that the paperback volume sales for Bleach are still pretty good to justify it being kept on the magazine. Clearly it's still making WSJ money in some capacity, and as long as it does that, they won't forcefully cancel it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on May 21, 2015, 10:32:49 PM
Bleach still makes it into the Top 20 Best Selling Manga each year, so it's definitely still doing well sales-wise.  I don't think Bleach will get cancelled, but it's clear that the majority of people who are buying the manga in Japan are not WSJ readers.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 28, 2015, 11:48:38 AM
Here are the rankings for the June 1st issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

World Trigger (Cover, Lead CP, 2nd Anniversary)
1- Black Clover
2- One Piece
Devily Man (Center Color, 25 p.)
3- Assassination Classroom
4- Hinomaru Sumo
Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club (Not ranked)
5- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
6- Haikyu!!
My Hero Academia (Center Color)
Naruto: The Seventh Hokage and the Scarlet Spring
7- Gintama
8- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
9- Nisekoi
Collection of Jump+ Series' Special Chapters (Center Color, 32 p.)
Lady Justice (23 p., not ranked)
10- Toriko
11- Kagamigami
12- Kochikame
13- Ultra Battle Satellite
14- Bleach
The Story of Isobe Isobee

Wow, Black Clover is going strong.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 28, 2015, 12:36:42 PM
Looks like they were smart to pick it after all.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 31, 2015, 09:24:51 PM
The top selling manga list for the first half of 2015 is now out. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-05-31/top-selling-manga-in-japan-by-series-2015/.88770) The top ten is as follows:

1. The Seven Deadly Sins - 7,059,400
2. One Piece - 7,046,066
3. Assassination Classroom - 5,231,158
4. Attack on Titan - 5,047,725
5. Haikyu!! - 3,588,366
6. Tokyo Ghoul - 2,640,791
7. Naruto - 2,459,918
8. Blue Spring Ride - 2,326,507
9. Terra Formars - 2,303,931
10. Yowamushi Pedal - 1,956,019

Sins taking #1 for this semester is a bit surprising, but the anime must have really boosted it's popularity. OP seems to have regained a sizable lead over Titan now that the hype about it has somewhat wound down. AC's numbers have also gotten a decent boost from both the anime and the fact that the series has just been knocking it out of the park these past few months. Haikyu!'s steadily popular so it's numbers aren't much of a surprise. The rest seem to be enjoying steady popularity thanks to recently concluded anime, or in the case of Naruto & Blue Spring Ride, conclusion-high numbers.

As far as the rest of the top 30 goes, it's great to see World Trigger now in the top 20, and selling more than Bleach. Magi's dropped quite a lot, which surprises me, but I guess japanese readers haven't been as enthusiastic recently much like myself. Parasyte making the list is cool and hopefully encourages anime studios to dig up more unadapted classic manga for new anime in the future (like this summer's Ushio & Tora remake). Overall, this looked like a good semester of sales for a lot of series. I'll be curious as to how things will be different at the end of this year, considering how certain series are going right now, new anime slated for later this year, and the overnight popularity of Black Clover.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 01, 2015, 12:09:33 PM
From what I've seen, Magi's current dip in popularity has been focusing on the wrong things and going places nobody had any desire for the story to go.

I'm glad to see Parasyte getting a boost, especially if it means older works being adapted is a possibility now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 04, 2015, 02:06:59 PM
Another week, another Weekly Shonen Jump review from yours truly! In this week of Jump, Bakugo tries to kill plaque, Toriko sets a wave on fire, and Yugi burns a man to death. Also, a bunch of secondary characters whose names I can't remember come back in just about every series in the issue. All this and more, After the Jump! (http://animationrevelation.com/readables/?p=3965)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 04, 2015, 02:41:55 PM
Nice write-ups.

I wasn't really into the Sports Festival arc, so this was a fresh chapter of MHA, and the first one that I really enjoyed in a while. I also like the superhero comic book-style tribute covers.

I'm still really "meh" on One Piece. The problem is that Oda has dragged this arc out for so long that I can't feel any tension no matter what he does because I just want him to wrap it up already.

You know, I'm genuinely surprised by how suitably mediocre the Naruto Gaiden chapters have been so far. They are of course incredibly bland and predictable on their own, but compared to the last few hundred chapters of the manga, the writing feels shockingly.....well, competent, for lack of a better word. That said, I found the last 20 chapters of Naruto to be more entertaining in how awful they were to the point of being hilarious, whereas this stuff is just generic shonen fluff. Neither terrible nor good. It's just simply there.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 04, 2015, 03:18:01 PM
That MHA comic art cover page. Yes.

Another great write up, Mr. X. Please keep it up.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 04, 2015, 03:45:41 PM
Thanks guys.  :)

On a related note, here are the rankings for the June 8th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

Toriko (Cover, Lead CP, 7th Anniversary)
1- Assassination Classroom
2- One Piece
Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma (Center Color)
3- My Hero Academia
Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club (Not ranked)
Black Clover (Center Color)
Devily Man (23 p., not ranked)
Naruto: The Seventh Hokage and the Scarlet Spring
The Gods of Laughter: The Final Chapter (One-Shot, 19 p.)
4- Haikyu!!
Lady Justice (Not ranked)
Nisekoi (Center Color)
5- Hinomaru Sumo
6- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
Onsengai no Medusa (Jump+ series, Special chapter)
7- Gintama
8- Kochikame
9- Kagamigami
10- Bleach
11- Ultra Battle Satellite
The Story of Isobe Isobee
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Foggle on June 04, 2015, 04:27:34 PM
Great work as always!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 04, 2015, 04:30:57 PM
Thanks! :) And thank you for posting these up for me! I'm sure last week's installment was a pain with how many pictures I used for it... :sweat:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 05, 2015, 02:51:23 PM
Weekly Manga Recap celebrates it's 200th episode (http://weeklymangarecap.podbean.com/e/episode-200-1433467183/) with special guest, Annaliese Chistman (the english letterer for various Jump series including World Trigger and Black Clover), and a special live reading of the third part of RolloT's "erotic" World Trigger fanfiction, "The World Trigger to My Heart (& My Butt)!"
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 05, 2015, 04:05:53 PM
Attack on Titan volume #1 has officially been on the New York Times best selling manga list for 100 weeks. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-06-05/new-york-times-manga-best-seller-list-may-24-30/.88959)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Foggle on June 05, 2015, 07:39:48 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on June 04, 2015, 04:30:57 PM
Thanks! :) And thank you for posting these up for me! I'm sure last week's installment was a pain with how many pictures I used for it... :sweat:
It took awhile, but it wasn't a problem! Don't worry about it. :)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 07, 2015, 10:27:54 PM
Top 10 Food Wars! characters per the first Weekly Shonen Jump poll: (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2015-06-07/top-10-food-wars-characters-revealed/.88924)

1. Yukihara Soma (6,451 votes)
2. Erina Nakiri (5,046 votes)
3. Takumi Aldini (4,918 votes)
4. Megumi Tadokoro (2,817 votes)
5. Hisako Arato (1,901 votes)
6. Alice Nakiri (1,900 votes)
7.  Kojiro Shinomiya (1,882 votes)
8. Akira Hayama (1,720 votes)
9. Ikumi Mito (1,462 votes)
10. Satoshi Isshiki (1,422 votes)

Shinomiya, Mito, & Isshiki's popularity was expected but I wouldn't put them in my personal top ten, though I do really like Shinomiya, especially after the Stagiare Week arc. I am happily surprised Arato ranked so high. I hope this means she gets more prominence in the future. The rest are great characters and would be somewhere in my personal top ten, though I'd put Erina and Aldini much closer to the bottom.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 08, 2015, 10:46:35 PM
The epilogue chapter of Gakkyu Hotei was finally published in Jump today.

It was one of the best endings a series cut before it's time could have possibly managed, and better. I might go so far to say that I think it's one of the best manga endings I've read in general.

...Why couldn't this series have lasted longer? :cry:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 08, 2015, 11:42:41 PM
Because Ohba has a new idea brewing.

























:(
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 11, 2015, 02:23:07 AM
Here are the rankings for the June 15th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki (Cover, Lead CP, 3rd Anniversary, Live Action Movie Announcement)
1- My Hero Academia
2- Haikyu!!
3- Black Clover
4- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
Assassination Classroom (Center Color)
Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club (Not ranked)
5- World Trigger
Tengu Keisatsu (One-Shot, Center Color, 45 p.)
Lady Justice (Not ranked)
Naruto: The Seventh Hokage and the Scarlet Spring (Center Color)
6- Hinomaru Sumo
Devily Man (Not ranked)
7- Gintama
8- Toriko
9- Nisekoi
Bleach (Not ranked. Was absent in issue #21)
10- Kochikame
11- Ultra Battle Satellite
12- Kagamigami
The Story of Isobe Isobee

Kusuo Saiki is getting an anime?! Sweet! That should be a fun watch, and I'm looking forward to it! Turns out it's getting a live-action movie, not an anime.  :-\

It's nice to see World Trigger in the top 5. It's not so nice to see Kagamigami in last place, but the series seems to be slipping in the ranks as of late. Unless SU!, Lady Justice, and Devilyman all flop, it's in danger.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 11, 2015, 11:58:08 AM
I hope it starts doing better soon, but then I haven't been keeping up so I don't know where the story is.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 18, 2015, 09:59:26 AM
The Fairy Tail spinoffs are ending. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-06-18/fairy-tail-zero-fairy-tail-ice-trail-spinoff-manga-to-end-in-july/.89330) YAY! 

Silver Spoon is ending. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-06-18/silver-spoon-manga-teases-imminent-ending/.89413) NOOOOOOOOOO! :el_cry:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 18, 2015, 10:02:02 AM
Here are the rankings for the June 22nd issue of Weekly Shonen Jump.

One Piece (Cover, Lead CP)
1- Assassination Classroom
Naruto: The Seventh Hokage and the Scarlet Spring
2- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
3- Black Clover
4- Haikyu!!
Kagamigami (Center Color)
5- My Hero Academia
Devily Man (Not ranked)
6- Hinomaru Sumo
Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club (Not ranked)
7- Nisekoi
8- Toriko
Lady Justice (Not ranked)
9- Gintama
10- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
11- World Trigger
The Story of Isobe Isobee (Center Color)
12- Bleach
13- Kochikame
14- Ultra Battle Satellite
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on June 18, 2015, 11:22:34 AM
Quote from: Cartoon X on June 18, 2015, 09:59:26 AM
Silver Spoon is ending. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-06-18/silver-spoon-manga-teases-imminent-ending/.89413) NOOOOOOOOOO! :el_cry:
:cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 19, 2015, 02:28:36 PM
Second season of the Assassination Classroom anime confirmed for next year. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2015-06-19/assassination-classroom-anime-2nd-season-coming-in-2016/.89471)

Considering the arcs it should be adapting, I can't wait until it starts. Though the start was a bit rough, the anime turned out to be a fun and worthy adaption of the manga after all. The second will cover my favorite parts of the series so far, and should go through all the way to the end of Korosensei's backstory, if not also include the Class Civil War. It's interesting how I was down on the anime while excited for Soma's earlier, and now my feelings about them are reversed. FUNi's excellent dub played a large part in that, but the production quality of the show itself really improved as it went on. I've heard the Soma anime has gotten better about it's fanservice, but I'm still wary about going back into it. Maybe I'll try seeing how they handle the beginning of the Fall Classic arc, though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 19, 2015, 03:02:23 PM
New Weekly Manga Recap Visual Edition compiling the WMR guys' original thoughts on the first 20 chapters of World Trigger. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hK-nuauqD14)

Hey, I was wondering when Infamous would make this. Made my day. I wonder what they'll think about this when they see it (they'll hopefully mention it on next week's podcast). It's hilarious to listen to them ranting so negatively and pessimistically about the early chapters of the series, considering how much they love and rave about it now.  :D

"Why are bothering to remember the names of the characters in this series? I'm going to go out on a limb and say this series will be cancelled under 20 chapters."
"I know we're only 5 chapters in, but I feel like we're coming to the end of World Trigger"
"Would it be any great loss for us? No. We'd just have one less excuse to mention how much we hate this guy's facial expressions"
"If this manga gets more than 16 chapters, oh my god, the manga reading population of Japan has no fucking taste"

They'll never live those statements down.  :lol:

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 19, 2015, 04:43:48 PM
That's funny, I've been watching the anime and I enjoy it. But I do see a lot of pessimism centered on World Trigger in general and I'm not really sure why. It's certainly no masterpiece like Naruto or Bleach, but it at least has consistent characters that actually do things.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 19, 2015, 06:31:58 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 19, 2015, 04:43:48 PM
That's funny, I've been watching the anime and I enjoy it. But I do see a lot of pessimism centered on World Trigger in general and I'm not really sure why. It's certainly no masterpiece like Naruto or Bleach, but it at least has consistent characters that actually do things.

You're watching the anime? Are you caught up? As much as I enjoy the manga, I couldn't stand watching the anime, for the same reasons I can't watch the OP anime anymore. I recently checked out clips of how they handled parts of the Invasion arc, and it gave me bad Toriko anime flashbacks (well, I suppose it's not that bad, but still).

I should point out that video only shows the WMR guys opinions on the first 20 or so chapter of World Trigger, and it's funny how negative they were back then because they LOVE it now. WT discussion is arguably now the cornerstone of the podcast. In fact,  RolloT now considers it his fifth favorite manga.  (http://odar.conforums.com/index.cgi?board=MangaAnime&action=display&num=1424307476)

Spoiler

Quote from: Admin link=board=MangaAnime&num=1424307476&start=10#0 date=1426089924I am terrible at remembering series and ranking them. I usually need to quickly remind myself what they were about for me to truly appreciate them, so I am positive there are some here that I am missing. Also, after the first five there is no order. Just a collection of series I really liked which are undoubtedly missing several key mentions.

1) One Piece

Not really a surprise considering the forum, and my views on WMR. One Piece is the most important manga to me. It meant a lot to me when I was reading through it, and to this day I can't think of another series that has fit my tastes so perfectly. Great combination of art, writing, comedy, drama, creative powers, utilized supporting cast, and fantastic locations. Just excellent, and the direct inspiration for most of my writing.

2) 20th Century Boys

Even after all these years I still love the mystery of this series. Kanna is one of, if not my all time favorite female lead in a series, and Urawara has such a profound way of writing very human characters. After LOST ended, I discovered LOST the manga, and it holds a place in my heart for absolutely hooking me into the plot. That Friend reveal... still makes me angry in the best way.

3) Jojo's Bizarre Adventure

All the parts, though part four is my favorite. I haven't followed Jojolion since I stopped mentioning it for the recap, but this series is still incredible. Not just for its unique style, but also for the memories I have because of it. I connected very tightly with JewWario because of this series, and I'll forever treasure it because of that fact.

4) Eyeshield 21

I love sports series, and no sports series did it better than Eyeshield 21. It was an incredible series with a wonderfully developed cast that all grew over the course of a ludicrously exciting series. Everyone got their moments to shine. I still get goosebumps reading through the Naga and Oujo matches, and I love it despite that clumsy World Tournament ending. Just an amazing series.

5) World Trigger

This is probably too high for a series that isn't all that old, but I really do adore the hell out of World Trigger. Osamu is the perfect kind of lead for me, and the series continues to impress by expanding on its world and giving everyone a little bit of development. I really do regret being a big sourpuss on it early on—even if it was justified.

And from here, no real order. Just series I liked.

- Holyland (I can't remember if I liked it that much during our recap, but I loved it by the end. Some compelling writing and great, semi-realistic action)
- Magi (Haven't read it in a while, but the Kassim Arc was fantastic)
- Majin Tantei Nougami Neuro (If for no other reason than Sicks. Holy fuck, Sicks...)
- Shokugeki no Souma (I still have a lot to catch up on, but this has been one of the most compelling series in Jump recently)
- Vinland Saga (Another series I have fallen behind on, but one of the few edgey manga I feel has a real point to the gore and violence)
- Bakuman (Apocalypse Dragon ending or not, Obata and Ohba crafted a great series that really is a must read for manga fans)
- Silver Spoon (Another series I'm behind on, but man did I enjoy it. I can't explain why either. It's a farming manga that is just compelling)
- Cross Manga (I wasn't high on it at first, but absolutely won me over. Sad that it is gone, but so glad we got it. I really hope we see Kaito-sensei again)
- Rurouni Kenshin (Classic series that holds up pretty well. Anju vs Sano is still probably one of my top 5 fights of all time)
- Lucifer and the Biscuit Hammer (A WMR recommendation that was a great read. It got me to almost cry over a fucking lizard, so that has to count for something)
- Change 123 (I barely remember anything from this series, but I remember really liking it)
- REAL (Most recent recommendation on here. I loved what REAL told, and how brutally honest it was at times)
- Shin Angyo Onshi (I still love this series, and Mushi is still one of the biggest badasses I know. Dude punched god while he was armless)
- Liar Game (I am way behind on this now, but Liar Game was my shit for a while. I like it when a series has exciting conflict without resorting to punches and energy balls)
- Haikyuu!! (I love sports series, what can I say? Behind on this one too, but I loved what I read. Very inspirational series that made indoor volleyball very appealing to me)
- Crimsons (It's an adventure series about the salmon lifecycle that was gloriously ridiculous)
[close]

The WMR listener base loves the hell out of WT too, and the official letterer for the manga for Viz, Annaliese Christman, has become a regular listener and guest on the podcast. Most other opinions of the series I've seen from those that have stuck through past the Invasion arc really enjoy and are positive about the series. Negativity towards the series seems to mostly come from how awful the anime is as an adaption, showing no effort put in on Toei's part to make it visually interesting, paced well, etc., which instantaneously put it on the shit list of most anime bloggers when it came out and sullied it's reputation as bad as the Shokugeki no Soma anime has for that manga (even though I'd call it the best manga currently running in Jump, alongside AssClass). The manga probably never picked up a lot of steam among western readers before it came out because of irregular fan translations, and because it doesn't have that much flashy/"badass" action as far as the fights go, and the early chapters are slower paced than is typical of battle shonen.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 19, 2015, 07:05:38 PM
I only recently started watching it, so the pacing hasn't really bothered me since I just watch a few episodes in a row. I'm a few episodes from being caught up, but since it's only going to be 50 episodes, I can wait a little bit until they finish up.

But I like the world, the characters, the action, and the general story so far. It has a big plus to it that it gets better and better as it goes, too. I've actually been more impressed with more recent SJ than I've been in a long time.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on June 19, 2015, 07:45:50 PM
Hmmm, I might check it out myself.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 19, 2015, 07:49:52 PM
I still haven't read past chapter 55, where the original scans stopped due to copyright issues. I'll pick it up again eventually since it gets better. I thought that it was alright up to that point. I didn't love it, but it was easily one of the better modern shonen manga that I was reading.

As for that list, I'm just glad to see REAL get a mention. It's personally my favorite currently running manga, and it's really what cemented Inoue Takehiko as one of my favorite mangaka. I mean, I already loved Slam Dunk, but I wasn't aware that the guy was capable of writing such nuanced and three-dimensional characters, and went against expectations for what you'd expect going into this type of series. Of course, this was also before I had really gotten into Vagabond, which also has these great qualities, IMO.

Overall, though, aside from One Piece, I actually took a break from all other manga over the past few months. Occasionally I will binge something once a major arc is over (which, to be honest, is WAY more engaging to me than reading stuff on a weekly basis), like how I did with the Sports Festival arc of MHA.

I also haven't watched any anime from this year. This wasn't due to a lack of interest, though, but more so a lack of time. I was a bit burned out, though, so I took a break from manga,  anime, and video games, and left my spare time mostly for books and films (and some shows like Better Call Saul, Arrow/The Flash, Daredevil, True Detective, and Game of Thrones).

Once I finally get my Pharmacy license, it'll be the perfect time to jump back into reading manga and watching anime. That said, I will definitely be following Dragon Ball Super, at the very least.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 19, 2015, 08:02:33 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 19, 2015, 07:05:38 PM
I only recently started watching it, so the pacing hasn't really bothered me since I just watch a few episodes in a row. I'm a few episodes from being caught up, but since it's only going to be 50 episodes, I can wait a little bit until they finish up.

But I like the world, the characters, the action, and the general story so far. It has a big plus to it that it gets better and better as it goes, too. I've actually been more impressed with more recent SJ than I've been in a long time.

Well, I'm glad to see you're enjoying it.  :) While I wasn't completely sold on the series until I got to the Invasion arc, that really put it on another level for me and made me a fan, and I've really been enjoying keeping up with it since. I'm curious as to how they'll end the anime, since the current arc in the manga isn't finished, and they are less than 30 chapters behind from what I can tell.

The current WSJ lineup is pretty strong, definitely. The only series I think is bad in it is Bleach. As for everything else, while I obviously can't speak for Kochikame and Isobe Isobee since nobody translates those, and I think they are all enjoyable series. The second weakest manga in the lineup is Nisekoi, which while often mediocre when it's focused on episodic shonen rom-com antics, still puts out really funny and really well-written chapters fairly often. I'm not very enthusiastic about Haikyuu, personally, but I'd still consider it a pretty well-written sports manga. Some series in the modern Jump are more consistent than others, sure, and but all are capable of entertaining, quality storytelling. It's easily the best lineup Jump has had since the 90's, imo.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 21, 2015, 11:15:54 AM
Ah sweet, Akiko Higashimura has a new manga debuting in August! (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-06-20/princess-jellyfish-higashimura-starts-manga-series-in-august/.89526) I hope that it gets translated quickly.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 29, 2015, 12:04:10 AM
The Naruto mini-series (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-06-29/naruto-the-seventh-hokage-and-the-scarlet-spring-spinoff-manga-ends-next-week/.89823) is ending next week. I was expecting that the mini-series would last right up until the Boruto movie came out, but I'm not surprised it's ending this soon. I was actually pleasantly surprised by how good the mini-series was, and it's honestly made me a little interested in seeing the Boruto movie. A Naruto-related project doesn't have to be a trainwreck, so I'm optimistic.

Oh, and since I forgot to post them before, here are the rankings for the June 29th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

Haikyu!! (Cover, Lead CP, 30 p.)
1- One Piece
2- My Hero Academia
3- Assassination Classroom
Devily Man (Not ranked)
4- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club (Center Color)
5- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
6- Black Clover
Naruto: The Seventh Hokage and the Scarlet Spring
Lady Justice (Not ranked)
7- Gintama
Hinomaru Sumo (Center Color)
8- Toriko
World Trigger (Not ranked. Was absent in issue #24)
9- Nisekoi
10- Kochikame
11- Kagamigami
12- Bleach
13- Ultra Battle Satellite (END)
The Story of Isobe Isobee
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 30, 2015, 07:02:43 PM
Detective Conan is finally coming back from it's hiatus. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-06-30/detective-conan-manga-to-return-on-july-22/.89911) I'm glad Aoyama is in good health again.  :)

Also, Kodocha and Tokimeki Tonight are getting new one-shot chapters. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-06-30/kodocha-manga-gets-new-one-shot-17-years-after-ending/.89908) Which reminds me I need to get around to reading and watching both of them (partially re-watching, in Kodocha's case).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 01, 2015, 10:47:47 PM
One of the greatest WMR reviews ever is now finally in Visual Edition form. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0GpYeKOSfXQ)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 02, 2015, 02:33:35 AM
Here are the rankings for the July 6th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

Hinomaru Sumo (Cover, Lead CP)
1- Assassination Classroom
2- One Piece
3- My Hero Academia
Naruto: The Seventh Hokage and the Scarlet Spring (Center Color, END)
4- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club (first ranking)
5- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
6- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
7- Haikyu!!
8- Black Clover
9- World Trigger
To Love Ru Darkness (Special Chapter, Center Color)
Devily Man (Not ranked)
10- Nisekoi
11- Gintama
12- Kochikame
13- Lady Justice (First ranking)
14- Kagamigami
Aratanaru Horizon (One-Shot, 17 p.)
15- Bleach
The Story of Isobe Isobee

A nice debut for Straighten Up!'s first chapter. Though it looks like Viz was justified to not bother previewing Lady Justice. A new round of Jump Starts are set to debut next week, so it probably won't be long for this world. Kagamigami probably won't be either, I'm afraid.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on July 02, 2015, 02:47:10 AM
And yet Bleach continues to stay despite always being at the bottom....  Seriously, Sheuisha should either force Kubo to end Bleach or they should just move it to Jump+. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 03, 2015, 12:38:21 AM
Tokyopop is back in the manga publishing game. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2015-07-03/tokyopop-plans-manga-publishing-relaunch-more-projects/.90002)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on July 03, 2015, 04:16:45 AM
After being on hiatus for 2.5 years, D.Gray-man is returning as a quarterly manga in Jump SQ.Crown.  (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/07/01/new-jump-manga-magazine-promotes-dgray-man-content)
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa.mhcdn.net%2Fstore%2Fspoiler%2F20150702%2F1435830131.jpg&hash=5b525a2594c76cb0b4dade0e4e41bc634ea0a1d1)

......I had forgotten that this series even existed. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 04, 2015, 08:39:07 PM
KODANSHA HAS LISCENSED PRINCESS JELLYFISH (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-07-04/kodansha-comics-adds-princess-jellyfish-real-account-magatsuki-manga/.90074) AND ARE GOING TO RELEASE IT IN 2-in-1 EDITIONS STARTING THIS FEBRUARY!! YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!   :swoon: :swoon: :shakeshakeshake: :shakeshakeshake: :shakeshakeshake: :shakeshakeshake: :shakeshakeshake: :shakeshakeshake: :shakeshakeshake: :swoon: :swoon:

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Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 06, 2015, 02:10:34 PM
Hmm, Kurumada is making a semi-autobiographical manga. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-07-06/saint-seiya-kurumada-begins-semi-autobiographical-manga/.90139) I like these kinds of manga, and Kurumada's got to have had an interesting life, so I'm looking forward to reading it. Hopefully it gets translated summarily.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 07, 2015, 02:35:27 AM
Hmm, both Kenjirou Hata (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-07-07/hayate-the-combat-butler-kenjirou-hata-launches-new-manga/.90149) and Atsushi Ohkubo (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-07-07/soul-eater-atsushi-ohkubo-starts-en-en-no-shobotai-manga/.90152) are making new manga. I've liked what I read of Hayate the Combat Butler and thought Soul Eater was a decent battle shonen overall, so I'm interested in checking out both of their new works. I'm also interested in the new swimming manga being added to Jump next week, Best Blue (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-07-06/viz-shonen-jump-to-add-hirakata-best-blue-manga/.90145), since the editors seem pretty excited for it, which is a good sign.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 07, 2015, 08:32:34 PM
After a month's absence, my Weekly Shonen Jump review series After the Jump (http://animationrevelation.com/readables/?p=4046) is back, and just in time to cover the final chapter of the Naruto mini-series, as well as the first chapter of the Dragon Ball Jump Back!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 07, 2015, 09:24:32 PM
Were those "Bail-Out" deaths in the World Trigger caption or real ones? Because, yikes.

I'm curious what you mean in your Naruto column. Isn't the whole purpose of the manga that despite Naruto having a horrible upbringing he still managed to be a good guy and not let it drag him down, but motivate him to become a better person? I never got the impression that Kishimoto put across the whole "Born bad; always bad" thing when even Sasuke went out of his way to make stupid choices when he was raised better than that (and knew he was doing wrong) and characters like Rock Lee and Shikamaru worked their way up the ranks.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on July 07, 2015, 09:51:52 PM
Spark's a Naruto apologist? :SHOCK:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 07, 2015, 09:55:21 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 07, 2015, 09:24:32 PM
Were those "Bail-Out" deaths in the World Trigger caption or real ones? Because, yikes.

Those were bail-out deaths.  :D

Quote
I'm curious what you mean in your Naruto column. Isn't the whole purpose of the manga that despite Naruto having a horrible upbringing he still managed to be a good guy and not let it drag him down, but motivate him to become a better person? I never got the impression that Kishimoto put across the whole "Born bad; always bad" thing when even Sasuke went out of his way to make stupid choices when he was raised better than that (and knew he was doing wrong) and characters like Rock Lee and Shikamaru worked their way up the ranks.

My point was more about how the mini-series seemed to focus on how the way parents interacted with and raised their kids affected their behavior and relationship with them, and unhealthy or inattentive parenting can have negative repercussions on children's self-esteem and moral values, and create a disillusioned image of parents and warped view of adults in a child's mind, as shown in how Boruto, Sarada, Cho Cho, and the Shin clones all demonstrated some sort of discontent and disappointment with their parents in some fashion, and how their actions and beliefs reflected the manner in which they were raised and the insecurities and prejudices they've developed as a result. It's not the idea that someone is "born bad; hence always bad," but that children's personalities are heavily influenced by their parental authority figures/role models. In the original series, we saw this in how Naruto took after Iruka and Jiraya as role models, while Sasuke looked up to Itachi, Rock Lee looked up to Might Guy, Shikamaru to Asuma, etc. Remember that part of the reason why Naruto grew to be a good, well-adjusted guy is that he had a positive role model in Iruka to look out and set an example for him, whereas Gaara's role model, his uncle, betrayed and traumatized him as a child which caused him to be distrustful of people, emotionally distant, and mentally unstable. I felt that this mini-series was more specifically about this theme and managed to show a interesting range of positive and negative experiences, which was made more amusing to think about when considering how Naruto, Sasuke, & Sakura have matured as adults and how their different personalities and priorities led to different styles and efficacy in their parenting.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 07, 2015, 10:00:20 PM
Ah, gotcha. Shame Kishimoto couldn't be that good for the entirety of the series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 09, 2015, 04:55:20 AM
Here are the rankings for the July 13th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

Best Blue (Cover, Lead CP, New Series, 54 p.)
1- My Hero Academia
2- One Piece
Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma (Center Color)
3- Assassination Classroom
4- Black Clover
Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club (Center Color)
5- Hinomaru Sumo
6- Gintama
7- Haikyu!!
8- Devily Man (First ranking)
9- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
10- Toriko
11- Kagamigami
Sekai no kuro Sawa (One-Shot)
The Story of Isobe Isobee (Center Color)
12- Kochikame
13- Bleach
14- Lady Justice
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 09, 2015, 11:22:13 AM
Glad that Kagamigami is doing a little better.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 09, 2015, 02:29:19 PM
Viz is releasing Gakkyu Hotei in print. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2015-07-09/viz-schedules-gakkyu-hotei-school-judgment-manga-print-release/.90256)

:worship: :shakeshakeshake: :swoon:

Wow! I didn't think they'd do this considering it's lack of popularity in Japan, but I'm glad there was enough demand from U.S. readers to get it in print over here after all! I, for one, will be glad to own this woefully underrated series in print! Man, with this and the upcoming releases of Franken Fran and Princess Jellyfish all slated to debut in the February of next year, among all the series I currently buy and plan to, I might have to invest in more shelves...again!  ;D
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 14, 2015, 05:10:26 PM
Another week, another Shonen Jump issue review! In this week's issue, Free! the manga makes it's debut, Fujitora tells Akainu to fuck off, and Ida tries to clean up a bad Stain. All this and more, After the Jump! (http://animationrevelation.com/readables/?p=4065)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 14, 2015, 06:19:15 PM
Kill 'Em Dead is an awesome chapter title. I haven't started reading it yet, but the more I hear about MHA the more it looks like I should start.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Foggle on July 14, 2015, 07:46:31 PM
I love reading what you write about Bleach. :lol:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 14, 2015, 08:21:16 PM
Great write-ups as usual.

On the subject of Dragon Ball, the super nerd in me feels like bringing up two points from your article:

One is in reference to the comment that DB's sexual humor never got as dirty as this or that upcoming Master Roshi scene ever again. While I don't necessarily disagree with that, there are two scenes that are arguably on the same or at least a similar level of raunchiness. One of those scenes is from a filler episode where Goku drops down his pants and reveals his bare genitalia to an unsuspecting villain (Toonami had to censor it by drawing a pair of boxer shorts on Goku for that scene). The other is from the manga where Krillin lifts up Bulma's shirt in front of Master Roshi in the Fortuneteller Baba arc (and yes, it's uncensored, at least in the original Japanese print).

The other thing I wanted to point out is that the age that Goku reveals in this chapter is later ret-conned by Toriyama during the Budokai Tenkaiichi, which is explained by having Goku reveal that he didn't know how to count back when he first told Bulma about his age.

And that concludes my meaningless Dragon Ball trivia for the day.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 14, 2015, 09:36:27 PM
Thanks, guys.  :)

As far as those DB scenes go, as a huge DB nerd myself I did remember them, but in the case of the scene in the Baba arc I felt that was a bit anomalous for the series at that point (and it's not quite as remembered a scene, for whatever reason), and I wouldn't get to write about that chapter whereas I will with Master Roshi's debut, so I decided not to mention it, while the mention about learning Goku's age was just part of the point that Toriyama gave a lot of exposition and information about his characters in a very natural, casual way, and the fact the actual age would be established as different later on doesn't detract from that.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 14, 2015, 09:45:17 PM
I know. By my own admission those points that I brought up were pointless, and didn't diminish anything that you wrote on your article about it.

I only brought them up because I'm a hopeless fanboy and feel compelled to talk about the series at any chance that I get. Have you seen how nerdy I get in my weekly YYH write-ups? :blush:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 16, 2015, 11:11:01 AM
Here are the rankings for the July 20th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

Assassination Classroom (Cover, Lead CP, 3rd Anniversary)
1- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
2- One Piece
Best Blue (Center Color, 25 p.)
3- My Hero Academia
4- Haikyu!!
Shojo Fukkyu Recovery Q (One-Shot, Center Color, 41 p., Participant in the 2015 Gold Future Cup)
5- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
6- Gintama
7- Nisekoi
8- Hinomaru Sumo
Black Clover (Center Color)
9- Toriko
10- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
11- Kagamigami
12- Lady Justice
13- World Trigger
14- Devily Man
15- Kochikame
16- Bleach
The Story of Isobe Isobee
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 16, 2015, 01:26:22 PM
World Trigger needs to get back on track. It can't afford any more breaks.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 16, 2015, 01:36:17 PM
The anime is apparently doing well, and the manga was in the top 20 for the first half of this year, so it's safe for now. But yeah, it needs to stop taking breaks. They're killing it's momentum.

Straighten Up! seems to be doing very well in the rankings. I wonder if Viz will add it to their Jump after all. Maybe after they'll finally put it in after Best Blue finishes it's trial run.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 17, 2015, 12:58:30 AM
Fruits Basket is getting a sequel manga. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-07-17/natsuki-takaya-launches-fruits-basket-another-sequel-web-manga/.90560)

Reminds me that I should finish it sometime.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 17, 2015, 08:57:43 AM
So after over two years, a new chapter of D. Gray Man has come out. It is literally the gayest chaper of any manga I've ever read. And I've read actual BL manga.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on July 17, 2015, 01:35:57 PM
Spoiler
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa.mhcdn.net%2Fstore%2Fmanga%2F28%2F219.0%2Fcompressed%2Fo056.jpg%3Fv%3D1437129723&hash=95f5274baaa0e78c2fe9ea53bf7e85d510aa1ad7)

Yeah.....D.GM continues to become more and more nonsensical.
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Speaking of Jump SQ. Crown manga, Ultimo is ending in the fall issue. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-07-16/hiroyuki-takei-ends-ultimo-manga-this-fall-takes-hiatus-from-jumbor/.90518)  It would be nice if it got an anime soon afterwards, but considering that Hiroyuki Takei's non-Shaman King related series are not very popular, I doubt it will happen.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 22, 2015, 10:34:13 AM
The World Trigger anime is getting a second season. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-07-22/world-trigger-tv-anime-gets-new-series-in-october/.90758) Color me surprised, I thought Toei only made it in the first place to fill a slot for a year. I guess the anime turned out to be successful after all. Well, so long as the anime keeps going and the volumes continue to sell well, this means WT is safe in Jump for at least another year, and that's a relief at least.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 22, 2015, 01:10:07 PM
That's good to hear. I've been enjoying what I've been seeing.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 23, 2015, 12:34:39 AM
Here are the rankings for the July 27th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

My Hero Academia (Cover, Lead CP, 1st Anniversary)
1- Assassination Classroom
2- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
Deadman Killer (One-Shot, Center Color, 47 p., Participant in the 2015 Gold Future Cup)
3- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
4- Black Clover
5- Hinomaru Sumo
6- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
Haikyu!! (Center Color)
7- Gintama
Best Blue (23 p., not ranked)
8- Nisekoi
9- Toriko
World Trigger (Not ranked. Was absent in issue #28)
10- Kagamigami
11- Kochikame
12- Lady Justice
13- Bleach
14- Devily Man
The Story of Isobe Isobee

Wow, Straighten Up! seems to be promisingly popular. I really liked what I read of it, so I'm crossing my fingers that it gets added to Viz's Jump when August starts.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 26, 2015, 03:14:42 AM
It's a little late, but I finally finished my review of the latest WSJ! In this week's issue, Sabo talks about better days (in the series), Bleach kills off more characters it didn't know what to do with, and, gasp, the status-quo changes in Nisekoi!?! Whudda thunk it? All this and more, After the Jump! (http://animationrevelation.com/readables/?p=4238)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 27, 2015, 01:34:14 PM
I'm quite glad you do these. They're always very entertaining reads. I also like how much better Jump has become in recent years (weak links like Bleach aside) with a lot more variety and higher quality than it has had in such a long while.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 27, 2015, 03:20:19 PM
Thanks! I'm glad you're enjoying them.  :)

Jump really is very strong right now, which is a big reason why I wanted to start writing these. The only real blemish in the lineup right now is Bleach; everything else is pretty well-done and well-written, with distinct tones and styles to set them apart from each other, and just a lot of fun to keep up with. Some might be more inconsistent than others, but they are all worth talking about and have more than enough merit to justify their popularity. IMO, we've pretty much entered the Silver Age of Jump.

As far as Viz's version goes, the only thing that could make it even better for me is if they added in Assassination Classroom. That would really complete the service, in my opinion, and would be a smart move for Viz since the volumes sales are doing extremely well over here. Running a sports manga again would be a huge plus too, so I'm hoping that the Best Blue push works out, potentially paving the way for others to join it down the line.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 30, 2015, 06:25:03 PM
Here are the rankings for the August 3rd issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

Black Clover (Cover, Lead CP)
One Piece (Not ranked. Was absent in issue #29)
1- Assassination Classroom
2- Hinomaru Sumo
3- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
Galaxy Gangs (One-Shot, Center Color, 47 p., Participant in the 2015 Gold Future Cup)
4- Haikyu!!
5- My Hero Academia
6- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
7- Gintama
Nisekoi (Center Color)
Best Blue (Not ranked)
8- Toriko
9- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
10- Kagamigami
11- Devily Man
12- World Trigger
13- Kochikame
14- Lady Justice
15- Bleach
The Story of Isobe Isobee
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 30, 2015, 06:57:15 PM
Lady Justice doesn't appear to be doing all that hot. Would you consider it in danger?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 30, 2015, 07:20:47 PM
Oh yeah. It's a pretty safe bet that it'll be the next series to be axed.

It won't be much of a loss, honestly. I checked it out and it's a pretty mediocre ecchi-action series. I can see why Viz didn't bother to run it as a Jump Start.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 30, 2015, 07:52:02 PM
Considering the caliber of everything else in the magazine I guess it would be the obvious weak link. Other than you-know-what, anyway.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 31, 2015, 03:56:20 PM
In this week's WSJ, Tamakoma has bad luck, Chaco's got bad taste, and Noelle has a seriously bad family reunion. All this and more, After the Jump! (http://animationrevelation.com/readables/?p=4329)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 31, 2015, 05:56:57 PM
You got me to spend money on a yearly subscription. I hope you're happy!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 31, 2015, 07:22:34 PM
I hope you enjoy it!  :D
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 31, 2015, 08:09:45 PM
I did. I read your review after I read through each series.

My thoughts are pretty dead on with yours outside of the series I'm not familiar with yet, but MHA was easily my favorite. World Trigger was easy to jump into since the anime pretty much caught me up as did your previous chapters in this series. I ranked them at the top.

The other two I ranked were Dragon Ball and Twin Star Exorcists. Dragon Ball for obvious reasons, but Twin Star surprised me. Like you, whenever I see a supernatural manga nowadays my eyes glaze over. I don't know how good the series will be, but considering it made me go from rolling my eyes to actually paying attention in a first chapter I thought it deserved the vote.

Here's hoping these series keep it up.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 01, 2015, 01:47:21 AM
Cool! I'm glad you liked them.  :) Did you vote on the MHA character poll, by any chance?

Twin Stars was certainly an interesting one. Since there don't seem to be too many chapters out, I might try to catch up on it when I'm done with some other stuff I've been reading. There hasn't been much out of Jump Square in recent years that's appealed to me, nor in the supernatural subgenre of battle-shonen for that matter, but this series could potentially be an exception if it's executed right.

Also, are you planning to catch up on any of the series you weren't familiar with, or are you just going to read them from where they are now?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 03, 2015, 11:52:53 AM
I decided to start from where they are. They were all surprisingly easy to jump into, except Toriko, which bodes well for the future. I'll probably go back and read the ones I like when the official volumes come out or I can catch them in a sale.

My vote in the MHA poll was not all too out there. I voted for Midoriya. I honestly really like him as the main character. :sweat:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 03, 2015, 12:04:57 PM
Cool.  :) Luckily most of the series are at the end of an arc or near the beginning of a new one right now, so it should be relatively easy to pick up on what's going on in them.

Midoriya's a great protagonist, so good choice there!  ;)

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 04, 2015, 05:54:51 PM
So many years later . . .

And D.Gray-Man still sucks.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on August 04, 2015, 09:32:59 PM
As a person who used to enjoy the early parts of D. Gray-Man, the series has become overly convoluted and idiotic.  Sadly, I'm already expecting Viz to announce that it will be added to their WSJ release once its Jump Back ends.  D. Gray-Man is still fairly popular, and since it's now a quarterly manga, it will probably be less of hassle to add to the magazine as compared to a weekly series like Assassination Classroom or Straighten Up.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 04, 2015, 10:00:13 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on August 04, 2015, 05:54:51 PM
So many years later . . .

And D.Gray-Man still sucks.

Are you referring to the newest chapter, or the Jump Back run of the first chapter in this week's WSJ?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 04, 2015, 10:10:31 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on August 04, 2015, 10:00:13 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on August 04, 2015, 05:54:51 PM
So many years later . . .

And D.Gray-Man still sucks.

Are you referring to the newest chapter, or the Jump Back run of the first chapter in this week's WSJ?
Jump Back.

The direction is awful, the dialogue literally narration with no characterization, and that messy early '00s art style that instantly turns me off still . . . turns me off. I thought maybe reading it again after so many years might change my opinion, but it really doesn't. It's one of the worst first chapters to a popular manga I've ever read. Really can't stand it.

Unfortunately, it looks like they're prepping to add it to Jump again. Couldn't they add something, anything else? Straighten Up? Haikyu? Best Blue? . . . ANYTHING ELSE?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on August 04, 2015, 10:35:16 PM
They could add New Prince of Tennis.  :>
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 04, 2015, 10:36:03 PM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on August 04, 2015, 10:35:16 PM
They could add New Prince of Tennis.  :>
:il_rope:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 04, 2015, 11:09:10 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on August 04, 2015, 10:10:31 PM
Jump Back.

The direction is awful, the dialogue literally narration with no characterization, and that messy early '00s art style that instantly turns me off still . . . turns me off. I thought maybe reading it again after so many years might change my opinion, but it really doesn't. It's one of the worst first chapters to a popular manga I've ever read. Really can't stand it.

Unfortunately, it looks like they're prepping to add it to Jump again. Couldn't they add something, anything else? Straighten Up? Haikyu? Best Blue? . . . ANYTHING ELSE?

I don't have quite as negative an opinion of the first chapter as you do, but I'll share my fleshed out thoughts in the issue review. Though suffice to say, it does not hold up for me.

The fact DGM chapters will only published 4 times a year now makes it's potential addition slightly more tolerable and forgiving then if it took up a weekly or monthly spot. But yeah, not very enthusiastic about that prospect. It just makes me more frustrated they haven't shown sign of adding AssClass yet - it's become Viz's second highest selling Jump title this year, so what's the hold-up? SU!'s promising popularity also makes me sad they don't seem to want to run it either. It might not be as mainstream-friendly as Black Clover, but the chapters I read of it showed more potential for a standout, quality manga in the longterm, imo.

Quote from: VLordGTZ on August 04, 2015, 10:35:16 PM
They could add New Prince of Tennis.  :>

"You still have a ways to go." (shudders)

Luckily, I don't think POT was that successful for Viz, which is why they haven't already licensed the sequel series. And thank god for that!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 04, 2015, 11:18:16 PM
Pretty sure the anime bombed on Toonami, too. To be honest, I've never understood the popularity of that series. As far as sports manga/anime, it's not even B-Rank.

As for DGM, just, like, the writing, man. The cheesy way the cross killed her. The dialogue almost entirely exposition and yet is still convoluted. The way the main character doesn't stick out at all. I would expect far more from a series running in the most popular Shonen magazine than that under-cooked mess. Guess I've never understood that ones popularity, either.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 04, 2015, 11:20:50 PM
I used to like D. Gray-Man, but I got tired of it really fast.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 04, 2015, 11:37:57 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on August 04, 2015, 11:18:16 PM
Pretty sure the anime bombed on Toonami, too. To be honest, I've never understood the popularity of that series. As far as sports manga/anime, it's not even B-Rank.

The appeal was mostly the pretty boys. POT's popularity came almost entirely from it's massive female readership. I'm not even exaggerating that - Viz even acknowledged that themselves in their "about the mangaka" section (aka the first page of most Jump series volumes) for the series.

Admittedly, both Kuroko and Haikyuu had/have a nearly 70% female readership to them as well, but at least those series have/had legit good writing in them (to a certain point, at least). Being fair, POT has it's moments, nice art, and some good characters, and I find it enjoyable as a guilty pleasure to some extent, but it's writing was mediocre at best at the start and quickly managed to devolve into total asinine shit before too long. The fact it got as big as it did is just embarrassing.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on August 04, 2015, 11:18:16 PM
As for DGM, just, like, the writing, man. The cheesy way the cross killed her. The dialogue almost entirely exposition and yet is still convoluted. The way the main character doesn't stick out at all. I would expect far more from a series running in the most popular Shonen magazine than that under-cooked mess. Guess I've never understood that ones popularity, either.

I have some thoughts on why it became popular. Again, I'll share these in the review.

Personally I thought DGM was decent through the Noah's Ark arc.

Then Johnny became a main character.

...Need I say anything more?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 04, 2015, 11:47:39 PM
Yes, attractive characters tend to be the selling point for a lot of series. Particularly one modern genre above all. Unfortunately storytelling takes the backseat a lot among such fans.

But I guess that's why something like Eyeshield 21's popularity surprised me so much since it was basically the anti-POT of the time. This despite the only real difference between the two (other than quality) was that Eyeshield had fun with what it was doing. And I actually enjoyed it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 04, 2015, 11:50:45 PM
I still need to finish E21. I've put it on hold for so long.  :sweat:

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 04, 2015, 11:57:34 PM
Oh, I keep forgetting to mention this, but Weekly Manga Recap set up a patreon last week. (https://www.patreon.com/WeeklyMangaRecap?ty=h[) To my surprise, they've already surpassed all three initial stretch goals and could potentially reach the fourth before too long too. I'm very happy for them as a fan of the show, and this should hopefully make doing it more financially viable for them.

Oh, speaking of, I actually won a contest they ran a while back in conjunction with the Unofficial Osamu (really World Trigger) Fanclub and received autographed copies of both volumes of Barrage from Chris! I'll edit pics of them into this post after my phone charges. A little dissappointed that he didn't also send another installment of his World Trigger fanfiction like he joked about, though.  :D
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 06, 2015, 10:25:52 AM
Here are the rankings for the August 10th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump.

One Piece (Lead CP, 18th Anniversary)
1- Assassination Classroom
2- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
3- My Hero Academia
4- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
Kurama no Hirameki (One-Shot, Center Color, 47 p., Participant in the 2015 Gold Future Cup)
5- Nisekoi
6- Hinomaru Sumo
7- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
Best Blue (Not ranked)
Black Clover (Center Color)
8- Haikyu!!
9- Gintama
10- Kagamigami
11- Kochikame
12- Toriko
13- World Trigger
14- Bleach
15- Devily Man
16- Lady Justice
The Story of Isobe Isobee
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 06, 2015, 12:03:22 PM
Wow, Straighten Up is doing so well.

Glad to see MHA back at the top, too. Last few chapters have been awesome.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 07, 2015, 02:36:55 AM
In this week of Jump, a zombie apocalypse crashes a party, Yotaro bets all his snacks on Tamakoma's victory, and a teenage boy with an inorganic arm teaches some chick that trying to bring people back to life has serious consequences. Wait, since when was Full Metal Alchemist ever in Jump? All this and more, After the Jump! (http://animationrevelation.com/readables/?p=4426)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 07, 2015, 04:45:21 PM
Spoiler
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Gotta admit, that made me laugh quite a bit. Food Wars has been quite fun overall.

But yeah, DGM was such a stain. But then your link reminded me how little I liked Jump back then. There was a lot of battle manga, but none of them really stood out. Kinda the problem I'm having with Black Clover right now since it's so much like those manga but at least it is enjoyable as a whole and not a total thud like DGM.

I guess I gotta wait on OP since I had no idea what was going on in that chapter, but the rest of the issue was pretty good. MHA and WT are still my favorites overall.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 10, 2015, 07:49:12 PM
The new MHA chapter was awesome. Midoriya, Todoroki, and Ida, were an insane combo. But is it enough to stop Stain? This guy is crazy powerful, and it's not just due to his ability.

I sure do hope this momentum continues.

EDIT: Wow, was that chapter of Seraph of the End stupid. Yes, turn your friend into a soulless murdering monster instead of letting him die. Because as long as your family is still alive, who cares about innocents? Stupid. Really, really, stupid.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 11, 2015, 02:56:09 AM
MHA has just been on fire lately. I'm interested in seeing how it resolves the current fight with Stain (though I feel this arc and the character will last past it).

I got caught up with Seraph in order to start reviewing it properly, and it's baffling how poorly written it is. Not only with stupid plot points and character's making dumb decisions, but in it's abrupt tonal clashes and it's unrelenting genericness in it's story, characters, execution. I'm glad I'll only have to talk about it once a month.

On the flipside, I've been getting more into BE at the point I'm at now (the late 20's), and the latest chapter piqued my interest. I still don't think too well of it (the early stuff was such a slog to read), but it might have been better than I gave it credit for. I'll see how I feel when I'm fully caught up to it (which I hope to be before I finish this week's issue review).

Also, not surprised that Arc-V is coming next week. Yu-Gi-Oh! manga have been a fixture of Viz's Shonen Jump ever since it first came out back in '03. Still, the fact it's getting added sooner than AC or SU! ticks me off. Well, at least I'll be able to follow it since it'll start at the beginning, rather than me jumping into it at it's end like with ZeXal.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 11, 2015, 12:13:27 PM
I have less than zero interest in YGO, but since it does so well for Viz, I guess it makes sense. I would much prefer Kagamigami or Straighten Up! added, but I guess they wanted a guaranteed moneymaker. Can't really blame them for that even if I didn't really want it.

At least DGM chapter 2 was less of a turd than last week's. I could at least read this one to the end without rolling my eyes. This would have made a better first chapter than the one we got.

Overall, really good issue. World Trigger sure was shocking, though. I really didn't expect that to happen so soon. Now we have to wait like three weeks to find out how this effects everything else!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 11, 2015, 12:32:12 PM
I actually thought that this week's DGM chapter happened later because I remembered it taking place farther into the anime version, so I wasn't expecting it this week. But yeah, it was a much better chapter, and combined with next week's, would have made for a way stronger debut chapter than the actual first one did.

Not getting to read more WT for another two weeks is going be tough considering that cliffhanger. I think a lot of the series chose a good point to leave off for this break. They left off on really interesting and climactic points, which works to keep hyped for them during a one-week hiatus.

Not sure what I'm going to do next week since Jump'll be off. Maybe I'll try to get up a cluster of reviews of other manga. I've been meaning to resume doing a Monthly Manga Roundup alongside the Jump reviews, but just haven't found the time.

Speaking of manga reviews, Weekly Manga Recap is having their first patreon-sponsored monthly Q&A episode tonight! (https://www.patreon.com/posts/3149910) I wonder if they'll get to the questions I sent them a while ago.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 14, 2015, 06:20:47 PM
The first volume of My Hero Academia debuted as #4 in the NYT best selling manga list. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-08-14/new-york-times-manga-best-seller-list-august-2-8/.91698) That's a pretty strong debut considering it's competition, and I'll be curious to see how sales for it will continue to fare.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 14, 2015, 06:46:46 PM
My friend got it, and I have to say it was really well done. Really dig the classic X-Men font for the title, too.

I'd get it myself, but long-running shonen scare me off these days. It's one thing when you're twenty volumes or so, or even Dragon Ball's forty-two, but looking at Naruto, Bleach, and One Piece's length is quite scary from a collector's standpoint. I'd have to see how long it runs first.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 19, 2015, 11:58:50 AM
Weekly Manga Recap will become a video podcast. (https://www.patreon.com/posts/patreon-update-3224232) It's cool to see them get so much support on their patreon. I'll be interested in seeing what they decide to settle on as future milestone goals.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 19, 2015, 12:07:34 PM
How about you? Still working on the one for the most recent issue?

I'd really like to see your comments on SotE.  :sly:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 19, 2015, 12:17:39 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on August 19, 2015, 12:07:34 PM
How about you? Still working on the one for the most recent issue?

I'd really like to see your comments on SotE.  :sly:

Still have to finish writing it; I'm only about half-done. I went on vacation with the family last week and I had to work on stuff for my internship, so finding time has been an issue, especially since there's 12 series to write about and there's plenty to say about all of them. But I'm hoping to have it done tonight or tomorrow morning. Thank god there wasn't an issue this week! :sweat:

And yeah...safe to say I don't have very pleasant things to say about the latest Seraph. :D
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 19, 2015, 12:37:25 PM
In other news, a massive shakeup will supposedly be going down in Shonen Sunday. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/08/19-1/shonen-sunday-plans-turnover-as-editor-seeks-to-reinvigorate-manga-magazine) Curious to see what that'll mean in terms of what new series they'll create. Not sure what "familiar series" they'll be gutting, since there's no way Conan or Magi are going anywhere right now. As far as big-names go, I guess they might end Hayate, Zettai Karen Children, and maybe Rin-ne, though the fact the latter has an anime will mean it's safe for a while. Though, I would welcome them making Takahashi end the series and getting her to create something more inventive. I've been thinking she should try doing a horror manga again, or at least try doing another romantic comedy that isn't based in anything supernatural like MI.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 19, 2015, 12:40:21 PM
Oh, and here are the rankings for the August 24th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma (Cover, Lead CP)
1- One Piece
2- My Hero Academia
3- Assassination Classroom
Genjui Toteku (One-Shot, Center Color, 47 p., Participant in the 2015 Gold Future Cup)
4- Black Clover
Haikyu!! (Center Color)
5- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
6- Hinomaru Sumo
7- Toriko
8- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
Gintama (Center Color)
Best Blue (Not ranked)
9- Kagamigami
10- Bleach
11- Nisekoi
12- Kochikame
13- Lady Justice
14- Devily Man
The Story of Isobe Isobee
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 19, 2015, 12:44:40 PM
I wonder if this might be why Fujita isn't writing a new manga for them for the first time since 1990. Somebody might have told him a culling was coming, so he decided to focus on the U&T anime with Nishmura and MAPPA instead. He's been there for a quarter of a century, I'm sure he has an idea of how they work after what they did to Raiku who was his assistant.

But SS's sales have been dipping for awhile. It's not that they need fresh blood, but they need fresh ideas. They have too many long-running series that scare off newcomers, and their originals haven't been all too interesting in many years.

To be honest, I thought Jump was heading this way with the Big 3 and their battle shonen glut a few years back, but they course corrected and are now better off than they've been in a while. Shonen Sunday needs to do the same.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 19, 2015, 12:52:30 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on August 19, 2015, 12:40:21 PM
Oh, and here are the rankings for the August 24th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma (Cover, Lead CP)
1- One Piece
2- My Hero Academia
3- Assassination Classroom
Genjui Toteku (One-Shot, Center Color, 47 p., Participant in the 2015 Gold Future Cup)
4- Black Clover
Haikyu!! (Center Color)
5- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
6- Hinomaru Sumo
7- Toriko
8- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
Gintama (Center Color)
Best Blue (Not ranked)
9- Kagamigami
10- Bleach
11- Nisekoi
12- Kochikame
13- Lady Justice
14- Devily Man
The Story of Isobe Isobee
That Bleach ranking had to be for how stupid it was. Because, man, were the recent reveals dumb! Congrats at Kagamigami cracking the top ten and MHA ranking so high after an awesome series of chapters.

Can I be honest and say that I don't understand why Black Clover is rated so high? I mean, it's a good series. I'm enjoying it. But it really isn't doing anything all too great or original so far. I guess people just wanted a series that reminded them of early Naruto, not that I can particularly blame them. I just don't see what makes it top 5 material.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 19, 2015, 01:24:03 PM
Maybe, or he might just be taking a break. They say that they plan to bring in some veterans for new series too, so he might come back with another one for the magazine after the U&T anime is done.

I think it speaks to people's lack of interest in Sunday that out of the 30+ series they currently run, only 10 have wikipedia pages, and only five are published in the U.S., and the only one of those that's been made in the 2010's is Magi. It's not really that they have too many long-running series. The only series in the magazine right now that are over five years old are Conan, Hayate, Zettai, Arata, Rinne, and Magi, and the latter two were only made in 2009. It's really just that their new series haven't been particularly interesting or entertaining in a long while, rare exceptions like Silver Spoon notwithstanding. If they want to compete with Jump and Weekly Shonen Magazine, they need interesting, fresh and innovative ideas, a renewed distinct identity to set them apart, and furthermore, a way to spread their manga to a wide audience overseas. Having manga that appeals to a broad global audience and getting legal simulpubs out internationally should be a key point in their strategy; both Jump and WSM have been doing this for years now, and they can't afford to be behind them on that anymore.

I'll be curious to see how SS shapes up and if they can create series that get public attention both in Japan and overseas like Jump and WSM have been doing. At the very least, if Shogakukan doesn't try and have Viz made a Weekly Shonen Sunday digital imprint at some point in the next year, I'll be surprised.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on August 19, 2015, 12:52:30 PM
That Bleach ranking had to be for how stupid it was. Because, man, were the recent reveals dumb!

Rankings for a series are based on survey responses for the issue eight weeks prior, so the chapter of Bleach that was voted on was the beginning of the Bazz B vs. Jugo fight. I guess japanese readers sorta liked that. The more curious thing is Nisekoi ranking so low when last week it was #5. Looking it up, and the chapter that was ranked was the one where the girls got drunk and basically rehased a chapter the series already did a couple years ago. Yeah, that was a pretty bad chapter and I remember seeing a lot of negative comments about it, so it's nice to see that japanese readers agree about that and are also more interested in reading more of the story-driven arcs we've been getting from the series recently than the standard rom-com hijinks.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on August 19, 2015, 12:52:30 PM
Can I be honest and say that I don't understand why Black Clover is rated so high? I mean, it's a good series. I'm enjoying it. But it really isn't doing anything all too great or original so far. I guess people just wanted a series that reminded them of early Naruto, not that I can particularly blame them. I just don't see what makes it top 5 material.

I guess it's striking a chord with younger readers who couldn't get into Naruto because of it's length and haven't read enough to notice the similarities between the two. It's sorta like how kids in Japan are drifting away from Pokemon in favor of Yo-kai Watch because the latter is newer, easier to get in to, and doesn't have as many older fans and thus feels more "for them." That it's doing so well is a little head-scratching for me too, but I suppose it fills the void of a battle manga with the same kind of tone and style as Naruto did for kids when that series first started, and it does have pretty strong art and decent enough characters and story so far that I can see being really appealing to them as well. So, I think it's probably a generational gap kind of thing.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 19, 2015, 01:58:34 PM
Well, we can easily compare their original popular works back then to now.

Shonen Sunday in the 90s:

Ushio and Tora
Go!! Southern Ice Hockey Club
Ghost Sweeper Mikami
H2
Detective Conan
Major
Ganba! Fly High
Jaja Uma Grooming Up!
Flame of Recca
Firefighter! Daigo of Fire Company M
Inuyasha
Monkey Turn
Project ARMS
Karakuri Circus
Salad Days


Shonen Sunday in the 00s:

Zatch Bell
Yakitate!! Japan
Midori Days
MAR
Kekkaishi
Hayate the Combat Butler
Cross Game
Zettai Karen Children
Moonlight Act
Bakegyamon
The World God Only Knows
Arata: The Legend
Rin-ne
Magi: The Labyrinth of Magic


Shonen Sunday now:

Uh, Silver Spoon, Ultimate Otaku Teacher, and Asaoka High? Their best stuff is usually of a much different style than what Jump puts out, but those three series aside, there isn't much new that is making a splash.

Which us a shame, because I think they offer good variety contrasted with Jump. If they can get over their crappy policies that sent talent like Raiku packing and get back to what they're best at, they can really carve out a niche for themselves again and really build up that base.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 19, 2015, 03:19:11 PM
Yeah, the decade is half-over, and they really only have two series to come out of it in the last five years that could be called big hits, compared to how many they had in previous decades. It's no wonder their circulation keeps dropping so dramatically. But yeah, if they get the right talent, nurture that talent, and get the best out of them, I think they can make some interesting, good series and make a comeback.

In other news, the Toei released a trailer for the World Trigger anime dub. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-08-19/world-trigger-anime-english-dubbed-trailer-streamed/.91881) It sounds...alright. I just wonder what their plan for it is, though? Are they just going to put the dubbed episodes on Crunchyroll and Hulu? Is it for a physical release of the show over here? Are they trying to get it on U.S. tv? For the latter, maybe they can use FUNi as a go-between to get the show on Toonami in the 3am slot or something, but that's still kind of a stretch. I'm just confused at what exactly Toei wants to get out of dubbing the show.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 19, 2015, 03:36:25 PM
Toei really seems to have a lot of faith in World Trigger in general. Not only did they give it a 50 episode anime so early in its run, they also ordered a whole filler season next, and now this. The dub sounds pretty standard to me, but I'm also not quite sure what they're planning to do with it. Though it would have been perfect for Toonami back in the day, I'm not sure if anyone would go for it now. It would certainly work better as a daily series instead of weekly.

I'm not sure what other recent anime are similar in potential international appeal other than World Trigger is, though. Maybe Ushio & Tora, but it's a short list.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 21, 2015, 09:38:25 PM
A week late, but hey, there wasn't a Jump this week so it worked out alright! In this issue, Yu tries to make his half-vampire brother turn into a monster against his will, Yukio gets existential, and Yuda has a sobering backstory about how he learned to treasure the value of a human life...and then he goes and kills a guy. ...Huh. All this and more, After the Jump!  (http://animationrevelation.com/readables/?p=4402)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Rynnec on August 21, 2015, 10:02:46 PM
I'm hoping Mayuri loses this fight, which seems likely since he's apparently revealed his trump card already. It'd make sense too, since Kenpachi and Byakuya have a few losses under their belt now, it's time for Mayuri to get taken down a peg or too, which has been a long time coming.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 21, 2015, 10:31:44 PM
There are a lot of questions as to Pernida's origins and why it would ally itself with Ywach that seem to indicate it'll be sticking around as a relevant character for a while yet, so Kubo might surprise and actually let Mayuri lose for once. I guess we'll see, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 21, 2015, 11:12:04 PM
Nice job! Here are my comments on each chapter this issue:

As of now, I'm pretty lost when it comes to One Piece, Toriko, and Blue Exorcist, so I can't comment on them until I'm less jarred.

I was unaware that Kubo made Uryu a villain, though. Considering how wasted he was been since Soul Society like every other non-Soul Reaper, I guess he figured he had to do something with him. It's funny that you say that about Mayuri, but it's true. He's more of a villain than Aizen or anyone else in this story and yet we're supposed to root for him. Warped.

Black Clover is a fun fantasy series so far, being that we don't have any that aren't Seinen or basically JRPGs in every way except that you're not playing it on a screen. But I still haven't hooked on to any character yet and the whole "arrogant rich guy" cliche party didn't add any wrinkles to any of them. I do hope the characters change a bit soon, or grow in some way, but as of now I'm reading for the art-style, the fantasy, and the action. It's greatest weakness right now is characterization. Not that that makes it bad, because it's not, I just hope it can hit that next level soon.

One Punch Man is One Punch Man. I don't really know what else I can say about it other than it is funny and has some pretty good characterization despite its simple premise.

That was such a heartbreaking chapter of World Trigger, though. I did hope he would at least get SOME hits in before being sniped out, but I guess it was too much to hope for him to be on that level yet. But if you think about it, he's already come far. His jump from C to B rank and then up to the upper levels of B was all earned, and he improved tremendously. To make it to A rank is going to take much more work. That said, I think this match will end really tightly, probably with Yuma, Azuma, and Kagegura in a three way scramble. The only reason I don't think Tamakoma will lose yet is because of Jin's bet, but that might be because he knows what will be asked of him. So who knows? Man, it sucks that we have to wait an extra week for the next chapter.

Nisekoi benefits for actually allowing the story to move. Outside of Kimagure Orange Road and School Rumble, I've never been a fan of romance manga that stick to repetitive gags instead of moving the story along. That's probably why I liked Maison Ikkoku so much. I'm hoping it continues on this path because it makes it much more engaging to read between the battle manga and more straightforward comedy series.

I've been watching the Food Wars! anime to help myself get into the manga better, and some few jarring usages of pointless ecchi in the early episodes aside, I quite got into it. Not only is it a pretty funny series, but the characters all come into their own, the dramatic cooking battles are engaging, and the art style is sharp. This chapter really showcased all those qualities while keeping the general story going. It's not exaggeration to say that this is one of my favorite series to read every week. I could go for more Takumi, though. He is by far the funniest character.

But the crowning jewel this week is the chapter of My Hero Academia. Not only for both Midoriya and Todoroki shining as the heroes we knew they could be, but also for Ida finally fighting for the right reasons instead of the wrong ones. His backstory with his brother highlighted just how weird he was even then and how normal his brother was, but also further highlights how absolutely loopy Stain is. He thought THIS was a hero worth culling? Sure he wasn't as noble as All Might or Midoriya, but he still wanted to do the right thing anyway. This solidified MHA to me as one of the best currently running manga, especially in the battle shonen mold. I'm glad Horikoshi finally achieved the success I knew he was capable of back when he started and I hope he continues this streak with MHA. Kind of disappointed you didn't include that final page in your page of the week. That was my highlight of the issue, honestly.

Then we come to the turd of the week. Seraph of the End was stupid. Even stupider than usual. Monstrously stupid. Yu knows what vampires are like, he knows once you turn you don't come back. So he encourages his friend to become one of those things, lose his humanity forever, and kill more human beings that he doesn't want to kill instead of doing the only merciful thing you can do to someone trapped as vampire and kill them like EVERY VAMPIRE STORY EVER WRITTEN. Because he sees his friend, who is already turning into a monster and will not be able to turn back, as family, he gives him the exact thing he needs to become that monster. And he's supposed to be the good guy? His sociopathic tendency to ignore Mika's VERY REAL problem of becoming a monster with stupid humor and six year old logic makes him extremely unlikeable. His belittling of Mika's dilemma, his suffering, and his last moments of waking thought, all because of his after school special version of family is so incredibly poorly written that I have to wonder why this is even popular. Unlike Bleach which turned awful with bad writing and is at least readable, this is a misfire on every level. Now if Yu was a villain, this chapter would work. But he's the hero. There is no chance I'm ever rooting for this idiot after this abomination of a chapter.

I mean, watch Ushio & Tora and compare Ushio to Yu. Ushio is positive, but he isn't brain dead. He works for his victories by sharpening his skills, he gets scared when he thinks he might die, he cares about people WHO ARE NOT HIS FAMILY, he is stubborn only when he needs to be, and his reasoning for doing things is usually more than a one sentence quip that is static for every situation. This is the difference between a good writer and a hack who completely misreads what makes the genre so good. I will never understand why this is popular. This is one of the worst things I've read in quite some time.

Now, D. Gray-Man's second chapter thankfully helped wash the taste out of my mouth, which is ironic when you consider how bad the first chapter was. This might be because the main character was the central character and actually moved the story along and explained both his powers and the world better than anything the first chapter did. It wasn't anything great, but it was readable and modestly entertaining. After Seraph of the End, I was grateful having read it so as not to end this week's issue on a bad note.

I think my rankings were similar to yours though, I put something else at #4. Don't quite remember what I put, though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 22, 2015, 12:23:27 AM
Thanks, man.  :)

Yeah, I agree BC has a great world and some strong ideas, but it needs to build up and flesh out it's characters more. I'm hoping we get an arc soon that really dives deep into Asta or one of the secondary's characters and has them grow a little. The rival characters need more depth to them then they have right now, especially Leo, if we're to accept that he'll be Asta's secondary rival after Yuno; essentially the Rock Lee to Asta's Naruto.

One Punch-Man is always a fun read; there's never a bad chapter in the series, imo. The only problem with reading it as it comes out is that the chapters are often so short they can feel a little unsatisfying sometimes. Reading the series in chunks is really the way to get the best out of it, imo. Still, the Garo arc continues to be really fascinating, and I'm loving him as an antagonist as well as the subplots Saitama and Bang have going in the background, so I'm really excited to see how everything'll ultimately tie together.

True, Osamu has come a long way since the beginning of the series, but it'll take a lot more work for him to get to A-Rank level. I'm really keen on seeing how his loss in this match will shape his development in the subsequent arc. And yeah, I'm expecting that Jin knows what Hyuse'll ask of him, and the bet was a trick on his part. It'll be curious to see if that's the case, and why he did so if it is.

Nisekoi really is at it's best when Komi puts the characters in situations that have them grow, and the story progresses rather than delves in typical rom-com antics. I stated earlier that I was not fond of the series' output last year at all because it was basically an endless series of filler chapters one after another. But this year? Honestly, Nisekoi has become one of my favorites to read in Jump ever since the beginning of the year. Komi's followed up one strong story arc after another, and Yui's confession arc was just fantastic, and the current arc with Marika looks to be just as strong. I'm really happy that Komi's been focusing on the story and character development, because he really is good at telling a strong character-driven romance story, and I hope that he continues the momentum through the end of the year and all the way up to the series' conclusion.

I really wasn't fond of unnecessary fanservice the FW! anime has added to the series, as I had said so in the Clusterfuck entry for it, but I'm glad to hear that the show is still enjoyable for people and has gotten better about it as it's gone on. Do make sure to read through the entire Fall Classic arc in the manga sometime, especially since the current season of the anime will probably only adapt up to the end of the first round of it. The series kept getting consistently better up until then, but that's really where it hit it's stride and truly became one of my most favorite manga to read every week, and my second favorite in WSJ itself after AssClass (though it's very close).

MHA has just been brilliant lately, and Stain is an incredibly fascinating anti-villain with such a warped personality and mindset. I can't wait to see what the series does with him and the themes introduced with him in the future. The final page of this issue's chapter was incredible, I agree, and I had a hard time choosing between it an the WT page for my POTW, but I went with the latter since it was the most surprising moment in the issue for me and left me stunned for a moment, and I felt that just slightly edged it out. It really was a close pick, though.

Nothing more I can add about Seraph that you and I haven't already mentioned. Yu is just a terribly and bafflingly written protagonist whose hyper-idealistic shonen mindset comes across borderline sociopathic considering his circumstances, and his behavior towards Mika is totally insensitive and so tonally dissonant from what we've seen Mika go through at the beginning of the chapter that it feels like a villain's origin story rather than a heart-warming moment between family members like I'm sure it was intended. Having now read through the entire thing so far, I've found Seraph to be a consistently poorly written series, but this chapter was it's lowest point yet and was downright infuriating to read, and hammered home just how much I hate Yu as a character; he really is everything wrong with your bog-standard shonen protagonist, made worse considering his personality doesn't fit with the tone and events in his series.

Next week's chapter of D.GM should be another nice one, with some strong character moments and solid writing behind it. It'll hammer in just how pointless the first chapter was as an introduction to the series, and why the second and third chapters in this should've been combined and made into the pilot instead of it.

The lack of Jump this week was both a blessing and bothersome; a blessing because I wasn't behind an issue to review but bothersome because I didn't have a new set of chapters to read. I'm looking forward to monday, and I should be able to get that review out on time since there won't be quite as many series to cover as this issue had, and I won't have nearly as much complications from my other work and other priorities to deal with. :sweat:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 22, 2015, 12:39:36 AM
Yeah, the first three episodes of Food Wars has a lot of blatant sexual humor that doesn't fit at all with everything else and the first ED has more pointless nudity, but after that other than one joke it pretty much disappears. And the series is much better for it. No idea how much of that is in the early manga, but the anime is otherwise pretty good. The OPs are pretty great, especially the second one. That second ED is fairly disturbing, though. No idea why they based it on such a minor character, but it is pretty out there.

It's a shame there wasn't a new issue this week, but a break every now and then is fine. I do expect a four page essay on YGO for next week, however.  ;)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 22, 2015, 01:00:25 AM
The manga has it's share of fan-service early on, but it doesn't linger on it or have anything particularly uncomfortable, distracting, or frivolous like I saw in the anime. It's good to hear it pretty much disappears like it does in the manga as it goes on, since the series really doesn't need it outside of certain foodgasm moments. I've seen the second OP and ED, and I actually like them quite a bit. The first is just a lot of fun, and the second I get a kick out of because I enjoy eccentric characters like Sadatsuka and found the way they used her spying on Erina and Arato as a framing device for it really amusing. I said this before in a previous issue review, but I'm really excited at the prospects of a Soma/Sadatsuka team-up match sometime down the line. I just know that'll be a lot of fun.  :D

As for YGO!, who knows? Maybe there'll be so much to say about it that I'll give it a five page essay. It is the fifth installment in the franchise, after all.  :sly:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Foggle on August 22, 2015, 01:02:27 AM
Quote from: Cartoon X on August 22, 2015, 01:00:25 AM
As for YGO!, who knows? Maybe there'll be so much to say about it that I'll give it a five page essay. It is the fifth installment in the franchise, after all.  :sly:
I want to see this.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 22, 2015, 01:11:46 AM
In my opinion, the best part of the adaption is the voice work. Soma is pretty dead on, especially when making fun of Takumi's Rival Behavior.

Quote from: Foggle on August 22, 2015, 01:02:27 AM
Quote from: Cartoon X on August 22, 2015, 01:00:25 AM
As for YGO!, who knows? Maybe there'll be so much to say about it that I'll give it a five page essay. It is the fifth installment in the franchise, after all.  :sly:
I want to see this.
There should be so much to write on, obviously.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 22, 2015, 01:22:32 AM
Yeah, the performances seemed pretty spot-on from what I saw of the show. I really should watch some clips to see how they handled some of the other characters, Alice, Kurokiba, and Hayama in particular. Shame Mimasaka won't have a speaking role in this season, unless they add some moments with him in some filler scenes or something, since I'd love to hear what kind of voice they'll give him.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on August 22, 2015, 01:11:46 AM
In my opinion, the best part of the adaption is the voice work. Soma is pretty dead on, especially when making fun of Takumi's Rival Behavior.

Quote from: Foggle on August 22, 2015, 01:02:27 AM
Quote from: Cartoon X on August 22, 2015, 01:00:25 AM
As for YGO!, who knows? Maybe there'll be so much to say about it that I'll give it a five page essay. It is the fifth installment in the franchise, after all.  :sly:
I want to see this.
There should be so much to write on, obviously.

Card games on hippos. What could possibly warrant more discussion than that? / :>
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 22, 2015, 01:27:20 AM
Just FYI, they're currently covering the prelims to the Fall Elections and Soma just fell asleep at his station. It should be interesting to see how he gets through it.

Quote from: Cartoon X on August 22, 2015, 01:22:32 AM
Card games on hippos. What could possibly warrant more discussion than that? / :>
I am really out of date with my YGO spin-offs, but does this one really take the crazy premise to an even crazier setting, or is it as boring as the older spin-offs were?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 22, 2015, 01:48:13 AM
Ooh, then the next episode will be a great one for Megumi's character development, as well as a fun showing for both Sadatsuka and Arato (depending on how many chapters they adapt). I might check in on the anime and see how they handle the rest of the prelims.

I actually don't know what Arc-V is really about, but I do know that the main protagonist rides a pink hippo duel monster, which has given birth to the aforementioned "Card Games on Hippos" meme. I'm pretty much going into it blind. FTR, as far as YGO! spinoffs go, I actually liked what I saw of 5D's back in the day. It had some surprisingly good writing to it, at least in the arcs I watched. Dunno if it'd hold up for me like the better portions of the original manga do, though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 22, 2015, 02:07:31 AM
In other news, it seems that Kishimoto is planning to make a sci-fi manga as his next work. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/08/21-1/naruto-author-hints-at-new-series) Not sure how I feel about reading another manga from the man. Naruto was bad for so many years, and just nosedived into inanity by the end, but The Seventh Hokage and the Scarlet Spring was genuinely well-done and I really enjoyed it, so I'd like to be optimistic. In any case, since it will inevitably be added to Viz's Jump when it debuts, I'll probably read it no matter what for the sake of the issue reviews. It seems like it'll be a while yet before he puts it out, anyways.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Foggle on August 22, 2015, 02:46:31 AM
Maybe it'll be a Naruto sequel where he and his friends become space ninjas...
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 23, 2015, 04:13:15 PM
Knights of Sidonia is ending next month. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-08-23/knights-of-sidonia-manga-ends-on-september-25/.92010)

...How? Sure, they're fighting Ochiai right now, but there are still a ton of plot threads they still need to explain and explore. Well, maybe they can tackle them all in the final chapter, which should be interesting to see.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on August 23, 2015, 08:24:40 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on August 23, 2015, 04:13:15 PM
Knights of Sidonia is ending next month. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-08-23/knights-of-sidonia-manga-ends-on-september-25/.92010)

...How? Sure, they're fighting Ochiai right now, but there are still a ton of plot threads they still need to explain and explore. Well, maybe they can tackle them all in the final chapter, which should be interesting to see.

It could just be an "end of part 1" type situation like how Tokyo Ghoul "ended" and then returned as Tokyo Ghoul:re
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 23, 2015, 09:12:56 PM
Maybe, but considering that Nihei doesn't tend to write really long series (KoS currently being his longest by a fair bit), I think he might just be ready to move on to something else. I certainly wouldn't mind more if makes a follow-up series, since even with how long the story currently is, I felt we were only a little past the middle of it at most, not almost at the end.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 24, 2015, 12:11:33 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on August 22, 2015, 02:07:31 AM
In other news, it seems that Kishimoto is planning to make a sci-fi manga as his next work. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/08/21-1/naruto-author-hints-at-new-series) Not sure how I feel about reading another manga from the man. Naruto was bad for so many years, and just nosedived into inanity by the end, but The Seventh Hokage and the Scarlet Spring was genuinely well-done and I really enjoyed it, so I'd like to be optimistic. In any case, since it will inevitably be added to Viz's Jump when it debuts, I'll probably read it no matter what for the sake of the issue reviews. It seems like it'll be a while yet before he puts it out, anyways.
It might be good if doesn't try to stretch it out to 70+ volumes leading to ridiculous story turns no one asked for or wanted.

I still have no problem with early Naruto, but he really went off the rails with the series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 24, 2015, 07:03:35 PM
Is Bleach this ridiculous all the time? Because I am really out of date with it and these chapters aren't making me regret being so out of the loop.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 24, 2015, 07:21:58 PM
Villains in this arc have included a luchador whose source of power was the cheers of his #1 fanboy, a perverted trans-girl who turned her own ally into her personal sex-slave zombie (who she also later killed and ate), and a literal brain in a jar. I'd say "ridiculous" is putting it lightly.

Though, a fucking giant baby-man who gives birth by having it's baby rip open it's stomach, and said baby being covered in nerves all over it's skin and constantly howling in horrible, intense physical pain every time it moves is certainly a new low of insanity and poor taste.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 24, 2015, 07:33:22 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on August 24, 2015, 07:21:58 PM
Villains in this arc have included a luchador whose source of power was the cheers of his #1 fanboy, a perverted trans-girl who turned her own ally into her personal sex-slave zombie (who she also later killed and ate), and a literal brain in a jar. I'd say "ridiculous" is putting it lightly.

In the hands of a better mangaka, this could be insanely entertaining. In the hands of Kubo, it's just boring. I don't know how he does it, but he does.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 24, 2015, 07:53:28 PM
How convenient that it was just the thing he needed to win, too.

I bet if you went in a time machine back to when Bleach started and told people what would be happening now, you would be laughed at. I think even I would have had a hard time believing it. But here we are over 70 volumes later and this idiocy is still going strong.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 25, 2015, 03:01:50 PM
Vinland Saga teasing an announcement. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/08/25-1/vinland-saga-teases-announcement)

As much as I want an anime adaption, I severely doubt it happening at this point.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 25, 2015, 03:10:22 PM
I'm not getting my hopes up, but I'm not going to rule it out either. It has been long overdue for an anime, and now's as good as time as any considering this year is the series' 10th anniversary and whatnot.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 25, 2015, 03:20:49 PM
I'd guess maybe a movie announcement is possible. At this point, I'd really take anything to raise its profile. It more than deserves it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 25, 2015, 05:50:19 PM
I'm not sure that I want an anime until this series finishes its run. With the relatively slow pace of chapter releases, it'd take the anime only about a year or two to catch up with the manga, unless they just decided to adapt the prologue (in which case it'd be just like Berserk).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 25, 2015, 06:17:42 PM
If it went up to the end of Ketil Farm I think it would be good enough to hook people. But I do wonder if an anime film that adapts the prologue or Ketil Farm (or two films even) would do the job just as well.

That is, if this leads to anything.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 26, 2015, 12:42:23 PM
Higashimura's new series debuts next month! (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-08-26/princess-jellyfish-higashimura-starts-bishoku-tantei-manga-series/.92156) The premise sounds like a lot of fun, so I hope someone scanlates it soon after it debuts, or better yet, Crunchyroll picks it up for a simulpub. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 27, 2015, 10:07:55 AM
A new site called Comic Zenon is now providing legally translated manga in english. (http://www.manga-audition.com/comic-zenon/) Only three series are available in english right now, but they are taking votes on what stuff people want them to translate in the future. Their back catalog looks really interesting with a lot of neat titles I'd be interesting in following, and I recommend checking them out and voting for the series you find interesting yourself.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 27, 2015, 10:30:07 AM
Here are the rankings for the August 31st issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

Bleach (Cover, Lead CP, 14th Anniversary)
1- One Piece
2- Assassination Classroom
3- Haikyu!!
4- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
Ryujin-den Gagamaru (One-Shot, Center Color, 47p., Participant in the 2015 Gold Future Cup)
5- Gintama
My Hero Academia (Center Color)
Toriko (Not ranked. Was absent in issue #32)
6- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
Hinomaru Sumo (Center Color)
7- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
8- Black Clover
9- Nisekoi
Best Blue (Not ranked)
10- Kochikame
11- World Trigger
12- Devily Man
13- Kagamigami
14- Lady Justice
The Story of Isobe Isobee
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 27, 2015, 12:39:45 PM
Yeah, I'm gonna guess Lady Justice isn't long for this world.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 27, 2015, 07:33:23 PM
It and Devilyman are sure to be the first picks to get axed when it's time for a new group of series to debut (which should be in a month or so). Unless Best Blue really bombs with it's first ranking next week, but we'll see about that.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Pharass on August 30, 2015, 05:49:29 AM
I caught up with Vinland Saga and these last few chapters have been very good. I'm really liking Hild as a character and her anger at Thorfinn is justified (poisoning his friends, or at least claiming to have done it, less so) and to Thorfinn's credit, he realizes this, which is one of the reasons why post-time-skip Thorfinn is one of my favorite manga-protagonists; he has matured a lot from the angry, vengeful young man he used to be.
Also, I squeed in excitement when Askeladd showed up in one panel in the flashback-chapter. If Johan is the creepiest manga-villain I can think of, than Askeladd is arguably the coolest.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 30, 2015, 11:23:43 AM
Yeah, Vinland Saga is excellent. Even though I haven't been keeping up with too many series this year, I can safely say that VS is one of the best currently running manga series out there. And this is at a time when three are apparently tons of good series to follow, so that's saying a lot.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 31, 2015, 03:51:14 PM
The recent MHA and World Trigger chapters were so good. Especially World Trigger. Definitely did not expect everything to hit the fan so fast after Mikumo was taken out.

Edit: My rankings for this week:

World Trigger
My Hero Academia
One-Punch Man
Food Wars!

But this was a pretty strong issue overall.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 05, 2015, 02:29:59 PM
Here are the rankings for the September 7th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

Kochikame (Cover, Lead CP)
1 - My Hero Academia
2 - One Piece
3 - Hinomaru Sumo
4 - Black Clover
Carbonator (Center Color, Golden Future Cup Entry #7)
5 - The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
Assassination Classroom (Center Color)
6 - Food Wars: Shokugeki no Souma
7 - Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
World Trigger (Not ranked. Was absent in issue #33) 
8 - Haikyu!!
9 - Toriko
10 - Gintama
Nisekoi (Not ranked. Was absent in issue #33)
11 - Kagamigami
12 - Best Blue (first ranking)
13 - Bleach
Isobe Isobee Monogatari (Center Color)
14 - Devilyman
15 - Lady Justice (End)

And so Lady Justice finally kicks the bucket. A new round of series are about to debut, and I have a feeling that Devilyman will be the next to go. Ouch for Best Blue; I personally thought it had promise. A series with a first chapter ranking in the bottom five isn't likely to last much longer, unfortunately, so it'll probably get the boot sooner or later. Shame, as I was hoping for a new sports manga inclusion in the english Jump. Which we could still have, if Viz finally decides to run SU!   :thinkin:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 05, 2015, 03:43:29 PM
Well, on the one hand it's a shame for any series with promise to be doomed for cancellation from the start. On the other hand, if the magazine is currently full of mostly good series as it is (which is what you and Desensitized seem to be saying), then it can be seen as WSJ readers now having a higher standard of quality that they uphold any new series to. So a manga with an OK first chapter would probably have been fine ten years ago when there wasn't much competition, but now anything less than very good just won't cut it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 07, 2015, 07:08:30 PM
Current Jump is pretty good. About my only issue is that it could be a tad longer and simply adding Straighten Up and Kagamigami would be enough for me. But as it is, it's a good weekly read.

Except for when they put Seraph of the End in. Like this week.

"It's your fault I'm a monster." "So growl or something then."

"That Guren guy is probably just using you." "Yeah. So? If he wants to he can. We're family!"

Somebody please throw Yu off a rooftop.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 07, 2015, 09:30:30 PM
So MHA is really shaping into an interesting direction.

It looks like the real villain might be making his play soon, Ida's arm might be irreparably damaged, All Might will be telling Midoriya about his past and the previous user of his power, and the League of Villains looks like it might have benefited from Stain's actions despite getting caught. This arc might be over, but the threat definitely isn't. Personally, I think Stain will probably become a major character going forward after this chapter.

Here's hoping it continues its upward climb. It really only gets better and better.

Edit: I settled on my rankings for this week. That first chapter of Psyren is still a doozy.

1) My Hero Academia
2) World Trigger
3) Psyren
4) Food Wars!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 10, 2015, 03:41:03 PM
Couple of news bits:

Bakuman is getting two prequel chapters to promote the upcoming movie. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-09-10/bakuman-manga-gets-2-new-prequel-chapters-this-month/.92760) The first will be published in the 43rd issue of WSJ. It's nice to see Ohba and Obata working together again, and even though these chapters will take place before the series, it'll be fun to read some new Bakuman material after all these years.

Nisekoi is running a special bonus chapter in the 45th issue of WSJ, focusing on Marika. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-09-10/nisekoi-manga-gets-special-marika-chapter-in-october/.92761) I'm hoping it digs more into her past, since recent chapters have made her background and backstory really intriguing.

Ajin is getting an anime, with planned worldwide streaming via Netflix. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-09-10/ajin-demi-human-manga-gets-tv-anime-in-january/.92749) Interesting. I've been meaning to look into the series for a while, though I've heard mixed things.

Rin-ne has an "important announcement" next week. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2015-09-08/rumiko-takahashi-rin-ne-has-important-announcement-next-week/.92687) Probably will be a new anime season and/or a movie. Though, it could be an ending announcement. Which I wouldn't mind, since I really want something new from Takahashi, preferably something she hasn't tried before.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 10, 2015, 03:47:04 PM
Also, here are the rankings for the September 14th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

Mononofu (Cover, Lead CP New Series)
1 - Assassination Classroom
2 - Haikyuu!!
3 - My Hero Academia
Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma (Center Color)
4 - Gintama
5 - Black Clover
Hinomaru Zumou (Center Color)
6 - The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
7 - World Trigger
Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club! (Center Color)
8 - Toriko
9 - Nisekoi
10 - Bleach
11 - Best Blue
12 - Kochikame
13 - Kagamigami
14 - Devily Man (END)
Isobe Isobee Monogatari (Center Color)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Foggle on September 10, 2015, 04:23:05 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on September 10, 2015, 03:47:04 PM
15 - Devily Man (END)
Ouch. :(
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 10, 2015, 04:23:26 PM
Re-reading chapter 1 of Psyren in the recent Jump issue really makes me wish he could put out something huge. At this point I doubt Kagamigami will be huge, but I would hope it could be doing better than it currently is.

He clearly has the talent, but his works just don't take off. It's a real shame.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 10, 2015, 05:15:27 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on September 10, 2015, 03:41:03 PMRin-ne has an "important announcement" next week. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2015-09-08/rumiko-takahashi-rin-ne-has-important-announcement-next-week/.92687) Probably will be a new anime season and/or a movie. Though, it could be an ending announcement. Which I wouldn't mind, since I really want something new from Takahashi, preferably something she hasn't tried before.
If it's as good as UY, MI, or Mermaid Saga, I'll definitely be interested. But she hasn't put out anything that really interested me since before Ranma outside of her short stories, so I don't know if that'll happen for me.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 10, 2015, 08:09:06 PM
Well, I do like and enjoy reading Rin-ne for the most part because, like most of Takahashi's work, it has a very enjoyable and dynamic cast of characters with great chemistry and interactions with each other. I especially like how Rinne and Sakura have very different personalities and a much different dynamic than what Ranma/Akane and InuYasha/Kagome had. The series' greatest failing is that the plots and storylines for the series are just...uninspired, and often bland. There are some exceptions, like the Damashigami arc, the Black Cat Exam, and generally any story involving Renge, Left & Right, or Matsugo, but the series just doesn't get much out of it's premise and setting. The main reason being that Takahashi has done a supernatural comedy twice before, and the setting of Rin-ne is more restrictive than UY's and R1/2's, which prevents her in being able going as wild and extreme as those, and much of the material she uses rehash ideas that she's done much better and funnier before. The comedy is also really toned down and tame compared to the hyper slapstick and referential antics of UY and R1/2, which makes it a lot less funny and a lot less fun.

So really, I think she just needs to do something else besides a supernatural romantic comedy, because she just can't get any more mileage out of that. I'd like to see her try a horror manga again, maybe a space comedy like Maris the Chojo, or maybe just a slice-of-life or non-supernatural romance series like MI. Heck, the second half of InuYasha showed she could write really great battle-shonen material when she really focused on the story and character development and didn't drag plot points out longer than necessary, so I wouldn't mind seeing her try another one so long as it has a completely different concept, story, and character dynamics than IY and stays more focused than it was. I really just want to see another great series come out of her before she retires, and Rin-ne or another supernatural comedy series isn't it.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 10, 2015, 04:23:26 PM
Re-reading chapter 1 of Psyren in the recent Jump issue really makes me wish he could put out something huge. At this point I doubt Kagamigami will be huge, but I would hope it could be doing better than it currently is.

He clearly has the talent, but his works just don't take off. It's a real shame.

It's a shame, for sure. Since new series tend to debut in groups of three, another series is going to have to be cut soon, so I don't think Kagamigami will survive for much longer. I hope Iwashiro gets another chance. He has great ideas and artwork, and it's a shame that he just hasn't been able to catch a break.

Quote from: Foggle on September 10, 2015, 04:23:05 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on September 10, 2015, 03:47:04 PM
15 - Devily Man (END)
Ouch. :(

I wasn't surprised, but it is a shame, since I did like what I read of the series and saw potential in it, especially in the titular Devilyman becoming a sort of mascot character of sorts like Korosensei. Hopefully the mangaka will do better with his next attempt.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 10, 2015, 08:17:47 PM
She could do Space Opera very well, actually. She's very good with characterization and connections, both of which are huge for that kind of science fiction. But yes, Rin-ne just hasn't interested me much at all. I'm sure it's good, but considering what she's capable of, it's not quite what I'm looking for from her.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 10, 2015, 08:44:29 PM
While I like it, I also think it's easily her weakest series and doesn't compare to her previous comedies. So if you didn't get much out of Ranma, you'd probably get even less out of Rin-ne.

But yeah, I think she could make a great space adventure/opera series, which would be fun since her last attempt at something like that was Maris, which made me feel that she could make a pretty fun Dirty Pair or Cobra-esque series. Really, so long as it's just something that doesn't involve high schoolers with love problems getting involved in supernatural shenanigans again, I think there'd be a lot of potential in just about anything she'd make. She's tackled pretty much every genre in her career at least once in some way or another, and she's done them well, so I just think she should try something different.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 11, 2015, 07:08:15 PM
The first two volumes of One-Punch Man have debuted in the U.S. as the #1 and #2 best-selling manga of week! (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-09-11/new-york-times-manga-best-seller-list-august-30-september-5/.92845)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on September 12, 2015, 10:05:32 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on September 10, 2015, 08:44:29 PM
While I like it, I also think it's easily her weakest series and doesn't compare to her previous comedies. So if you didn't get much out of Ranma, you'd probably get even less out of Rin-ne.

But yeah, I think she could make a great space adventure/opera series, which would be fun since her last attempt at something like that was Maris, which made me feel that she could make a pretty fun Dirty Pair or Cobra-esque series. Really, so long as it's just something that doesn't involve high schoolers with love problems getting involved in supernatural shenanigans again, I think there'd be a lot of potential in just about anything she'd make. She's tackled pretty much every genre in her career at least once in some way or another, and she's done them well, so I just think she should try something different.
Ugh, yeah. My least favorite anime/manga anything.

Quote from: Cartoon X on September 11, 2015, 07:08:15 PM
The first two volumes of One-Punch Man have debuted in the U.S. as the #1 and #2 best-selling manga of week! (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-09-11/new-york-times-manga-best-seller-list-august-30-september-5/.92845)
AWESOME-SAUCE!!!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on September 14, 2015, 03:34:52 AM
The Rin-ne anime has been confirmed for a second season in Spring 2016. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-09-14/rumiko-takahashi-rin-ne-manga-gets-2nd-anime-season-in-spring-2016/.92909)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 14, 2015, 09:39:49 AM
I guess that answers that. Still, it is her least popular series, so I wonder how many seasons it will get. She does tend to run her series very long.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 14, 2015, 09:29:44 PM
Wow, not only did Tamakoma lose: they were slaughtered. It wasn't even close. Yuma simply couldn't carry the whole team on his own. Looks like they'll have to come back from that one, Mikumo has to shoulder his weight. But asking Jin to join Tamakoma 2? Wouldn't that be a bit unfair for every other team to have such a high ranking agent on their team? I'm guessing he's going to suggest you-know-who for the team instead. That would be interesting!

Food Wars! just upped the ante on the school. Looks like the council betrayed the school. I'm surprised by how the story never manages to get dull.

Speaking of not getting dull, that was a pretty good fight scene in Nisekoi. Better than anything I've seen in Bleach in a long time, and that series specializes in fights.

Midoriya's come a long way in MHA, but he still isn't there yet. I can't wait for next week when we'll finally learn everything about One For All and hopefully the series villain.

Then there's Psyren. I'm surprised at how well it holds up even in the early chapters that are basically a better and less gory version of Gantz. There's a lot of mystery and action even in this chapter that is basically entirely set up for the first "game". It just makes me sad that Kagamigami is not lighting itself on fire yet. Iwashiro has a lot of talent.

My rankings for this week:

1. My Hero Academia
2. World Trigger
3. Food Wars!
4. Psyren

I would have put Nisekoi at #5 if only for that fight scene, but since the series is not usually like that it wouldn't have felt like a true rating. Not to mention we can only rank 4 series. All in all, great issue. Can't wait for next week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 19, 2015, 03:02:34 AM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on September 14, 2015, 03:34:52 AM
The Rin-ne anime has been confirmed for a second season in Spring 2016. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-09-14/rumiko-takahashi-rin-ne-manga-gets-2nd-anime-season-in-spring-2016/.92909)

Hey, if it means that we get to see Renge, Matsugo, Suzu, and the Black Cat Ranking Exam animated, I'm all for it. Especially since the second season should cover the manga's best material so far. Though, my desire to see Takahashi move on from the series and do something better and different still stands.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 19, 2015, 03:04:53 AM
Here are the rankings for the September 21st issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

Samon the Summoner (Cover, Lead CP, New Series, 40 p.)
One Piece (Not ranked. Was absent in issue #35)
1- My Hero Academia
2- Assassination Classroom
Mononofu (Center Color, 25 p.)
3- Hinomaru Sumo
4- Black Clover
Haikyu!! (Center Color)
5- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
6- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
Bakuman age13 (Special Chapter, Center Color, 23 p.)
7- Gintama
8- Toriko
9- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
10- World Trigger
11- Kochikame
12- Nisekoi
13- Best Blue
14- Bleach
15- Kagamigami
The Story of Isobe Isobee
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 19, 2015, 03:12:46 AM
After a prolonged absence, the Weekly Shonen Jump issue reviews are back in time for the newest round of Jump Starts! In this week's issue, Yuno is a bad loser, Joie is a bad negotiator, and both Azami and Mayuri are beyond bad fathers. Also, Nisekoi becomes a battle-manga. All this and more, After the Jump! (http://animationrevelation.com/readables/?p=4694)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 19, 2015, 10:40:22 AM
Vinland Saga is getting an anime! (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-09-19/vinland-saga-ponkotsu-quest-get-crossover-web-anime/.93150) A web anime. Which will be a series of shorts. And a crossover with a gag manga called Ponkotsu Quest. Yeah.

I really hope this wasn't the big announcement they were teasing, though it probably is. Well...fuck it. If someone subs it, I'll at least check it out.

In other news, Magi is entering it's final arc. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-09-19/shinobu-ohtaka-magi-fantasy-manga-enters-final-arc/.93152) Whoa, I really need to catch up again. I've been behind on all non-Jump manga for months now. And from what Vlord's been telling me, Magi's been on one heck of an upswing recently, so I'm hoping it's really back on track and stepping up it's game.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 19, 2015, 12:15:26 PM
Well, maybe this could be a mere step towards getting more people aware of Vinland Saga's existence, and perhaps it might raise its popularity enough for a new anime.

Really, though, like I said before, I'd rather wait until the manga completely wraps up before it gets an anime adaptation, so I'm not really bummed out about it not getting one just yet.

And I also need to catch up on Magi when I have more time.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 21, 2015, 09:55:37 PM
Dang, the last couple of weeks have been strong, but this week's Jump was really exceptional. I had a really hard time narrowing down what I wanted to chose for the survey, and I'm still second guessing myself. Though, I do have mixed feelings on the new Jump Start, but I'll expand upon that in the issue review.

But I must say, Mononofu is shaping up really well. And judging by the enthusiasm for it on the WSJ podcast, it just might have a chance of getting into the lineup once it's Jump Start run finishes. I don't want to say for sure until I see what chapter 3 brings to the table, but I think this one could be a keeper.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 22, 2015, 12:36:53 AM
I wasn't much of a fan of the Jump Start either. Didn't do much for me at all. Also, I can't explain what it was exactly but the art rubbed me wrong. I'm more of a writer type so I'm not all that good with narrowing down art issues but it just seemed off to me.

Mononofu has been surprising so far. I'm glad it seems to have a more character focus than I was initially expecting. Reminds me a lot of Hikaru no Go, and I don't just mean the game aspect.

Bleach was Bleach. That either means it was awful or nothing of value happened. I'm sure next week will prove the latter to be the case which helps it become the former.

MHA had a great chapter explaining the origin of One For All, which continued its streak of great chapters. Not only do we have an idea of who the big bad is, but also that All Might will probably not be there to face it with Midoriya. It had a bit of comedy, but it was a pretty heavy chapter. Stain was only the first part of the plan after all.

I like that we had a Bakuman prequel, as it's more Bakuman, but I really wanted an epilogue chapter. A lot of the side stories never really got fully resolved. Still, it was nice. Nice touch showing clips from HxH, Bleach, One Piece, and Naruto, when Shujin was thinking about manga since those were the biggest manga at the time this chapter takes place. Not to mention Eyeshield 21 being the inspiration for him to work in a writer/artist team. They really are good with the details. Also seeing Hiramaru's job was a kick. As bad as he made being a mangaka look, his old job was way worse.

Shame about World Trigger being off next week, but at least it was a good chapter to give a bit of closure to the last match. I'm pretty sure the potential teammate is Hyuse, though.

"I will follow you my entire life, Head Chef!" might be the best thing to ever come out of Black Clover. Such a good line.

Food Wars! looks like it will be going in an interesting direction. Can't wait to see where this leads. Kind of parallels what is going on in MHA a little, no?

Good to see Nisekoi continuing on with this storyline. It's been quite a good read for a while now. Tachibana's mother's logic would fry the brains of everyone in Seraph of the End. "You mean a half-baked emotional argument isn't enough? I have to use my brains to out-think her?"

Yu-Gi-Oh! didn't really have much this week. There isn't really anything to say.

Early Psyren has more of a horror bent than later and it really shows in this chapter. No one listens to the one person telling them to stay away from the monsters and they refuse to listen. It's still a really strong start for a surprisingly good series.

Great issue this week. Really good.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 24, 2015, 07:05:02 AM
Ohba and Obata's next series, Platinum End, will debut in Jump Square on November 4th. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-09-24/bakuman-death-note-creators-launch-platinum-end-manga/.93322) This is almost sure to be run in the english Shonen Jump as well. It's been a while since Ohba and Obata have worked on a manga together, so I'm very keen on seeing what they've got up next. The premise and key visual sort of gives me a Reversi vibe. Hmm....

In other news, the second season of the Assassination Classroom anime has been confirmed for January. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2015-09-24/assassination-classroom-tv-anime-2nd-season-premieres-in-january/.93323) Which was when I expected it would air, so natch.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 24, 2015, 07:08:47 AM
Here are the rankings for the September 28th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

Haikyu!! (Cover, Lead CP)
1- Assassination Classroom
2- One Piece
Samon the Summoner (Center Color, 25 p.)
3- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
4- My Hero Academia
5- Hinomaru Sumo
6- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
Mononofu (23 p., not ranked)
Black Clover (Center Color)
7- Toriko
8- Nisekoi
Bakuman age14 (Special Chapter, Center Color, 24p.)
9- Gintama
10- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
11- Bleach
12- Kochikame
13- Kagamigami
14- Best Blue
The Story of Isobe Isobee
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 24, 2015, 03:24:17 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on September 24, 2015, 07:05:02 AM
Ohba and Obata's next series, Platinum End, will debut in Jump Square on November 4th. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-09-24/bakuman-death-note-creators-launch-platinum-end-manga/.93322) This is almost sure to be run in the english Shonen Jump as well. It's been a while since Ohba and Obata have worked on a manga together, so I'm very keen on seeing what they've got up next. The premise and key visual sort of gives me a Reversi vibe. Hmm....
Reminds me of the opposite of the relationship between Light and Ryuk. I can't gauge the tone, though, since both Death Note and Bakuman had vastly different tones to them. This really could be anything.

But of course I'm interested.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 24, 2015, 11:05:26 PM
Princess Jellyfish is heading towards it's conclusion. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-09-24/princess-jellyfish-manga-heads-toward-final-chapter/.93335)

Man, this means that now both of my top two most favorite currently running manga are going to be ending within the next year. And Princess Jellyfish is my absolute most favorite currently running manga, so seeing it conclude is going to be especially bittersweet. But I just know Higashimura is going to give it a phenomenal conclusion, and I'm looking forward to it. I just hope that someone picks up her newer series and scanlates them, or better yet, they're given official simulpubs. And now that the series has been confirmed to be ending soon, I hope that Kodansha decides to print the series in it's entirety when the volumes start coming out over here in February, as well license Kakukaku Shikajika.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 25, 2015, 01:07:16 AM
Ohba and Obata collaborating once again is always welcome. I can't wait to see what they come up with.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on September 27, 2015, 10:59:34 AM
The Seven Deadly Sins has been green-lit for a second season. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-09-27/the-seven-deadly-sins-manga-gets-new-tv-anime-in-2016/.93443) 
While I had some problems with the adaption choices of the first season, it was still pretty enjoyable.  That said, I'm look forward to seeing the Ten Commandments Arc animated.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 27, 2015, 11:24:20 AM
Reminds me that I need to catch up with SDS again (along with almost every other non-WSJ manga).

The current arc seems a ways off from ending, though, and the first season adapted around 100 chapters, so I have to wonder just how long this new season will be, and whether it'll have to veer off in it's own direction or add some filler to the proceedings.   
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 28, 2015, 01:26:28 PM
At least Yuto Tsukuda is watching Ushio & Tora and thinks it deserves its classic status. If I didn't already know he had taste from his writing choices in Food Wars!, this would confirm it.

Actually, this week's issue was pretty slow. MHA, Food Wars, and Psyren, were great but everything else is currently in a transition so not a lot happened. Also missing World Trigger this week was a real shame. Bakuman and Nisekoi were good reads, though.

My rankings were pretty predictable for this week.

1. My Hero Academia
2. Food Wars!
3. Psyren
4. Bakuman
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 29, 2015, 09:23:27 AM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 25, 2015, 01:07:16 AM
Ohba and Obata collaborating once again is always welcome. I can't wait to see what they come up with.
From ANN:

QuoteOhba and Obata also revealed some details on the manga's story. It will be a story of "a human and an angel," which will center around Mirai Kakehashi, a boy who "does not seek out hope in order to live."
Also, there will be a preview in Jump:

QuoteThe manga is formally launching in the December issue of Shueisha's Jump SQ. magazine on November 4. However, the 45th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump will preview the first eight pages of the story on October 5.
Obviously, they're expecting a lot out of this. Both of their first two series were huge after all.

(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.animenewsnetwork.com%2Fthumbnails%2Fmax550x550%2Fcms%2Fnews%2F93460%2Fplatinumend01.jpg&hash=7184416a032bf7cefae74984fdf347c4308a10ab)

Looks like it might be the opposite sort of story of Death Note. Where that was the descent of a rather decent person, this might be focused on redemption instead. Of course, this is merely going off themes they followed in both Death Note and Bakuman, so they could instead throw a curve-ball. Who knows at this point?

Either way, they wrote two of my favorite manga, so I'm definitely going to be keeping up with this when NA Jump picks it up. As if there's any doubt they won't.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on September 29, 2015, 02:37:27 PM
Magi: Adventure of Sinbad is getting a TV anime in April 2016. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-09-29/magi-adventure-of-sinbad-gets-tv-anime/.93548)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 29, 2015, 05:09:23 PM
That's interesting. Didn't it already have an ongoing OVA series adapting it? Are they just going to disregard that version?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 29, 2015, 05:25:20 PM
I've seen people hoping it does because apparently the OVA skips a lot of character stuff. It looks like it's carrying the same cast and staff though, so who knows.

It isn't like they'll be putting out a third season of Magi any time soon.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on September 29, 2015, 06:57:24 PM
Since the staff is the same as the OVAs, it's possible that they might have the OVAs be the first 5 eps of the TV series.  Each of them was about 23 minutes long.  If that's the case though, the show will probably only be around 13 episodes.

I'm still hoping that there will be a Magi Season 3 announcement sometime soon.  The Alma Torran and Kou Empire arcs together would last about 25 episodes.  Plus, the Magi and Adventure of Sinbad anime have completely different staffs, so there shouldn't be any conflict in that regard. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 02, 2015, 01:32:58 AM
Here are the rankings for the October 5th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump.

One Piece (Cover, Lead CP)
1- My Hero Academia
2- Assassination Classroom
3- Hinomaru Sumo
Nisekoi (Center Color)
4- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
Samon the Summoner (23 p., not ranked)
5- Haikyu!!
Black Clover (Center Color)
Mononofu (Not ranked)
6- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
7- Bleach
8- Toriko
9- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
10- World Trigger
11- Kochikame
One-Shot (17 p.)
12- Best Blue
13- Kagamigami
The Story of Isobe Isobee

Bleach in the single digits? My, how long has that been? Though I'd guess it's mostly because people troll-voted for that chapter for it's novelty value rather than it's actual merit (it was the one where Pernida was revealed to be a giant hand, after all).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 02, 2015, 09:39:09 AM
That has to be the reason. Because it was some pretty awful writing followed by a pretty awful fight.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on October 03, 2015, 01:45:54 AM
....I assumed these were CX's rankings
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 05, 2015, 12:25:41 PM
No Platinum End preview, no Nisekoi Marika special chapter, running Naruto as a Jump Back AGAIN (when Bakuman was such an obvious choice after the prequel chapters and with PE coming up), and to top it all off...

(https://40.media.tumblr.com/665c73337fe37f6beb8ffc6e2a4597e0/tumblr_nvrbpmMyLo1r6toezo1_500.jpg)

...they're expecting us to pay the same amount for a single chapter of a manga that it costs for a single issue (comprising an average of ten chapters or more) of Weekly Shonen Jump, which even costs less per issue if you buy a yearly subscription, and in spite of the fact that the Boys Over Flowers Season 2 simulpub, which is bi-weekly compared to PE which will only be monthly, is free?

Holy shit, way to drop the ball this week, Viz.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 05, 2015, 12:31:54 PM
 :cry:

How did they screw this up so badly? Seriously, what in the world are they doing?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on October 05, 2015, 07:10:57 PM
Why didn't they just include it in the Jump subscription.   ???
It makes no sense for a year of Platinum End to be about the same cost as half a year of Shonen Jump.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 05, 2015, 07:27:19 PM
It looks like Viz is getting greedy. They are trying to bank off of the popularity and success of Death Note and Bakuman in order to make some extra cash from a manga made by the same pair, but this will only encourage more people to read illegal scans of the manga, which will be a bad thing for the business.

I think that fans should be vocal about putting this practice down ASAP, before it becomes a commonplace practice.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 05, 2015, 07:48:01 PM
If they wanted to charge an extra chunk of change they could have moved Blue Exorcist, Seraph, DGM, and Platinum End into their own version of Jump SQ and release that instead every month on a separate subscription.

That I could understand.

This? No chance am I biting. For that price I might as well just wait for the physical volumes to come out.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 06, 2015, 08:41:40 PM
I just realized I didn't say anything about the actual issue. Well, it was as good as usual, but I'd like to say something about Black Clover.

I have no emotional investment in this character. I know nothing about them. I don't even know how powerful they are. Is the twist showing this character half-dead supposed to pull an emotion out of me? Because they have barely done anything yet either in the story or as a character. But it's treated as a big emotional moment even though it falls completely flat at it.

This is my main problem (and really the only problem) with Black Clover. There is no characterization. I want to be more emotionally invested in the story, but I can't if I'm not given a reason to. The manga simply refuses to slow down for a chapter or two and give me a reason to care. Even early Naruto and Bleach did that much (to their credit) even if that completely vanished at one point it was at least there at the beginning. The investment existed at one point. I'm still waiting for Black Clover to stop throwing action scene after action scene at me to slow down and give me a reason to want to follow these characters.

This isn't a weakness other manga in the magazine have. Not MHA, not World Trigger, not One Punch Man, not Food Wars, not even Nisekoi. This isn't a problem a series in a professional anthology magazine should have, especially one that is gaining traction since it's begun. I do hope at some point this issue is addressed because it is hampering what is otherwise an enjoyable read.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 06, 2015, 10:28:33 PM
Yeah, weak characterization is BC's biggest failing at this point, and it's been really bothering me lately. I ranted about my dislike for how the Charmy suplot played out in the latest issue review, and I also compared where the series is now to where Naruto was by this point, and the latter was far more effective with it's character development and emotional moments at this stage. Compare what happens to Fegoleon in this chapter to something similar that happens to Sasuke during the Haku fight, or even Kakashi's plight during the first Zabuza fight, and there really is no question as to which pulled it off better. I've said it before, but BC really needs to develop and let us get to know it's secondary characters more before it tries to do big things with them, because as it stands, the only characters I'm genuinely invested in are Asta, Noelle, and Yuno.

Also, there were some bizarre mistakes in the way BC was presented in Jump this week. Missing pages, duplicate pages, notable spelling mistakes....I expect Crunchyroll to mess up like this (though I shouldn't...how is it that they still haven't got their shit together?), but Viz rarely makes such bad errors with Jump. Maybe they've fixed it by now, but it added another detractor to what was otherwise a decent issue in of itself.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 06, 2015, 10:47:41 PM
I'm worried that Tabata's idea of character development is that chapter where he crammed in all the knights for a short introduction speech one after the other and then quickly moved on from them. That's a rookie writing mistake. The characters should have been introduced naturally through the flow of the story and developed through what happens: not given a small introduction and a handful of lines while the story is stalled. Whoever his editor is should totally be catching this and helping him fix it. I have hope he'll learn and get better, but this one flaw is pretty crucial for me as a reader.

And yes, there were quite a few errors in this week's issue. Add in that to the missing special chapters and the Platinum End news and I'm wondering if someone at Viz drank some brown water or something.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 07, 2015, 04:40:56 AM
Yeah, shoving out all those characters out at once like that was a poor writing choice. I hope he spends a few arcs developing these characters well before he tries introducing any more.

On a tangent, here are the rankings for the October 12th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

My Hero Academia (Cover, Lead CP)
1- Assassination Classroom
2- One Piece
Mononofu (Not ranked)
3- Black Clover
Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma (Center Color)
Samon the Summoner (Not ranked)
4- Haikyu!!
No.9 (One-Shot, Center Color, 47 p.)
5- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
Hinomaru Sumo (Center Color)
6- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
7- Toriko
8- Kochikame
9- Nisekoi
10- Kagamigami
World Trigger (Not ranked. Was absent in issue #39)
11- Bleach
12- Best Blue
The Story of Isobe Isobee
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 07, 2015, 07:59:17 AM
Of the new series, I enjoyed Mononofu. Though I didn't like chapter 3 as much as the first two, it has a good amount of potential. Samon did absolutely nothing for me, and I would be disappointed if it outdid Best Blue since that one feels far better made to me.

Another question: Why hasn't Viz licensed Straighten Up! yet? It would add a lot of variety to the current magazine.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 08, 2015, 05:17:06 AM
Yeah, Samon was a total dud, but I really liked Mononofu and hope to see more of it. As for Straighten Up!, my guess is that they don't think a dancing manga like it will really sell well over here, which is why they've passed on it, at least for now. At this point, they'd probably prioritize running Assassination Classroom to the lineup anyways. Perhaps what happened with PE might have been at least in part a tradeoff for us getting Mononofu starting early November, but not wanting to overstuff the issues. While I'm hoping will turn out to be the case, I have a feeling we won't see another new series added to the lineup until one of the current series ends. Though, if I'm right about what's going on with Toriko right now, that might end up happening pretty soon...
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 08, 2015, 08:16:23 AM
You think Toriko is heading for the end? I honestly find it hard to tell. It's very confusing right now to an outsider.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on October 08, 2015, 11:30:34 AM
It sounds like quite a few series in Jump are heading towards their endgame: Gintama, Assassination Classroom, Bleach (depending on how much longer Kubo drags it out), and now Toriko.  It will be interesting to see what the magazine is like when they leave. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 09, 2015, 02:11:24 AM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 08, 2015, 08:16:23 AM
You think Toriko is heading for the end? I honestly find it hard to tell. It's very confusing right now to an outsider.

Well, lately it's been confusing to a lot of fans who've stuck with the series from the very the beginning, so you can't be faulted there. :D

But yeah. I've had my suspicions since the series abruptly interrupted the Cooking Competition in Blue Grill to focus on the developing stuff with Acacia's revival, but after reading the scan for next week's chapter, I'm convinced that Shimabukuro is being forced to end the series ASAP. I honestly expect it to end around it's 350th chapter, or at least around the end of this year/early next year. Maybe I'll be proven wrong, and Shimabukuro has just been rushing through things and shifting the focus around so much because he just feels like it (which would be a worse thing, so...idk about that), but I'm 90% positive that Toriko's been canceled and is on it's way out sooner rather than later.

Why it's getting canned when it regularly ranks in the middle while Bleach always rank at the bottom infuriates me, but I can't say I don't understand it. Even though it's shit now, and the sales have been dropping every year, Bleach still sells well, and it sells well internationally. Even though Jump tried to push it as the next big thing for a couple year, the truth is that Toriko was never really all that popular. It was never a real international smash-hit, much less a phenomenon, like Naruto and Bleach were. It's sales both domestically and internationally never reached the level of any the big 3 in their prime, and in the last two years it's sales have been dropping, and plenty in WSJ sell better than it now, including World Trigger. So as much as it disappoints me as someone who's been invested in Toriko for many years, and still think there's a lot of good in it even though some people like the WMR community have turned their backs on it, I can't say I don't see why they'd decide to cancel it, especially since Jump is so competitive now that it's a real struggle for promisingly popular new series to survive. That said, considering that so many other manga in Jump are seemingly coming to a close and will likely end in 2016...this really feels like an unnecessary and unfair measure to me. But still, I'm just speculating. The coming weeks should make clear what's really going on with Toriko.

Quote from: VLordGTZ on October 08, 2015, 11:30:34 AM
It sounds like quite a few series in Jump are heading towards their endgame: Gintama, Assassination Classroom, Bleach (depending on how much longer Kubo drags it out), and now Toriko.  It will be interesting to see what the magazine is like when they leave. 

Don't forget Nisekoi. That's definitely winding down too. Really, losing all of those long-running and popular titles will be a real blow to the magazine, so they definitely have to find more new series that have the potential to gain as strong a following and audience to replace them. Both MHA and Black Clover are working for them, and a couple others are going strong, but they still need to find more "next big things" to properly sustain Jump now that a good chunk of the "New Power Generation" are starting to wind down.

Anyways, on tangentially related fun, here's some WSJ stuff I got at the Viz booth at Comic Con today!

(https://40.media.tumblr.com/a503fc95af3e468c5b02d2d4d9a9b9fe/tumblr_nvxy2a7vb51r6toezo1_500.jpg)

I was thinking of getting the Sailor Moon bag instead (one bag came free with any purchase), but ultimately, it just felt appropriate for me to go for Jump. Actually, I also wanted to buy OPM vol. 1 & 2, since they were offering those on a two for one deal, but they sold out of them before I got through the line, so I decided to get volume 3 instead since I was still getting it a month before it's release date, which is pretty nice. That Naruto volume is the final volume with a special NYCC variant cover and exclusive bonus content, which I why I decided to get it since it was the only NYCC exclusive item they were selling that I had much interest in. I was thinking of also getting the regular version of the volume just for fun and the sake of having both, but they weren't selling it, and surprisingly, neither was my go-to comic shop when I went to visit it before heading home. Interesting that the one time I actually wanted to buy a Naruto volume, they weren't selling it. :D
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 09, 2015, 10:57:28 AM
Sales of Jump (like all the anthologies) are also down, so maybe they're going back to the drawing board to look for their next hit. MHA and Black Clover are still young and growing in popularity, World Trigger has good volume sales and an anime, Bleach still sells volumes and well internationally, and One Piece is still big, so it seems unless you're a newer manga with room to grow or a proven hit then there's just no room for you right now.

It would certainly explain how viciously new series have been treated over the last few years compared to years past.

But you are right about Toriko. It was really big a few years ago, but it hasn't reached nearly the same level as One Piece, Bleach, or Naruto, did at their peaks. Though to be fair, none of those three are as popular as they were a decade or so ago either. Jump leaned on them too hard for too long. They didn't really expand their brand much at the time focusing only on very similar battle manga not all too different from any of the Big 3.

It is strange that so many series are ending at the same time, however. Unless they have a pocket full of masterpieces ready to go out of the gate, they're going to have a lot of problems down the road.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 09, 2015, 12:39:48 PM
Well, One Piece's peak of popularity was actually during the Marineford arc five years ago, and it's still arguably more popular now in terms of it's sales and omnipresence in japanese culture than it was ten years ago, and the same is true for Naruto whose popularity somehow only went up in Japan during it's final arc, so I'll have to disagree with you as far as those two go. 

Jump is still the highest selling manga anthology in Japan and their series heavily populate the top manga sales lists, and they've made sure to branch out with both a digital and international presence. So compared to other imprints like Sunday, I'd say they're still in a pretty good place. I don't think Jump is necessarily desperate for another success right now, since they have a few promising titles like MHA and BC developing. But with so many of their series ending soon, there's definitely pressure on them to find other new series that can fill the voids they leave asap.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 09, 2015, 01:26:55 PM
In other news, Viz has just announced that they've licensed Kuroko's Basketball, which they will release in 2-in-1 editions starting next summer. In addition, they've also licensed Haikyu!, Yona of the Dawn, 7th Garden, and Everyone's Getting Married, which are all also coming next summer. Finally, Black Clover will be released in print starting this spring.

Wow, I'd have never thought that Viz would give a chance to sports manga again considering their track record with them. While I'm not much of a fan of KuroBas or Haikyu! (though I do like the prospect of seeing the latter added to Jump), this is great news as far as increasing the availability of sports manga in the west, and gives me hope that both Hinomaru Zumo and Straighten Up! will soon get picked up as well.

As far as the latter three licenses go, all are series I've been meaning to check out for a while, so this reminds and gives me renewed incentive to start.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 09, 2015, 01:44:33 PM
One Piece's peak in terms of actual quality ended years ago, yeah; though to be fair it didn't dip nearly as bad as Naruto did. Its popularity in terms of sales is bigger than ever, though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 09, 2015, 01:57:37 PM
Popularity is what we we've been talking about. Naruto's quality dropped hard in the middle of it's run and it got progressively worse to the end, but it remained and is still as popular as it's ever been if not more so by the time it ended (you should have gone to Comic Con; the amount of people there in Naruto cosplay and went to see Kishimoto was MASSIVE). Jump needs to create another series with that level of international influence and longevity going forward.

And as far as OP goes, after re-visiting Dressrosa in chunks, it really reads much better than it did when I was going through it the first time week to week and my opinion of it now leans to it having far more positives than it does negatives. OP isn't as strong as it was at it's peak, but to say it's dipped into the mediocre to bad territory that Naruto did post timeskip (especially post Hidan and Kakazu), is a real over-exaggeration imo.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 09, 2015, 02:21:38 PM
Which is why I specifically said that "it didn't dip nearly as bad as Naruto did." ;)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 09, 2015, 03:07:28 PM
I wish they would license Ushio & Tora and release it in 2-in-1 volumes.  ;)

Honestly, when it comes to Haikyuu!, I'm good with the anime. It's a very well done production and fun to watch. I'm not so certain reading the manga version would add a whole bunch to it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 09, 2015, 03:11:44 PM
The Haikyuu! anime is flat-out better than the manga. It takes a pretty typical story and just executes it really well with great animation, very clever styles of directing (in terms of the games), and a great soundtrack that's actually utilized with thought and care. It turns a fairly average manga into a pretty entertaining show.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 09, 2015, 03:14:43 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 09, 2015, 03:07:28 PM
I wish they would license Ushio & Tora and release it in 2-in-1 volumes.  ;)

Honestly, when it comes to Haikyuu!, I'm good with the anime. It's a very well done production and fun to watch. I'm not so certain reading the manga version would add a whole bunch to it.

That'd be swell, though considering the length, I think they'd be best off with 3-in-1's. I do hope they see enough demand for U&T to try and release the manga sometime.

And yeah, with Haikyu! it's best to stick with the anime. Reading the manga is a far less engaging experience and makes the weaknesses and tropes of the series less forgiving than through how the anime executes things. It's honestly my least favorite WSJ manga to keep up with these days (besides Bleach, of course), but the anime is easily the best made for any of their series currently-running by far, and does a lot to make it more enjoyable to me when I'd be unenthusiastic or indifferent to it otherwise.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 09, 2015, 03:24:55 PM
It really makes me wish that the Production IG staff that works on Haikyuu! could do a future anime adaptation of a manga that's much better. I mean, if they can do that good of a job with "just OK" source material, imagine what they could do with a really good property like MHA or another popular, energetic shonen series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 09, 2015, 03:30:53 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 09, 2015, 03:24:55 PM
It really makes me wish that the Production IG staff that works on Haikyuu! could do a future anime adaptation of a manga that's much better. I mean, if they can do that good of a job with "just OK" source material, imagine what they could do with a really good property like MHA or another popular, energetic shonen series.
MAPPA x Production I.G. would be ideal for My Hero Academia, IMO. Especially if Nishimura was director. Chances of that are next to nil, though.

Quote from: Cartoon X on October 09, 2015, 03:14:43 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 09, 2015, 03:07:28 PM
I wish they would license Ushio & Tora and release it in 2-in-1 volumes.  ;)

Honestly, when it comes to Haikyuu!, I'm good with the anime. It's a very well done production and fun to watch. I'm not so certain reading the manga version would add a whole bunch to it.

That'd be swell, though considering the length, I think they'd be best off with 3-in-1's. I do hope they see enough demand for U&T to try and release the manga sometime.

And yeah, with Haikyu! it's best to stick with the anime. Reading the manga is a far less engaging experience and makes the weaknesses and tropes of the series less forgiving than through how the anime executes things. It's honestly my least favorite WSJ manga to keep up with these days (besides Bleach, of course), but the anime is easily the best made for any of their series currently-running by far, and does a lot to make it more enjoyable to me when I'd be unenthusiastic or indifferent to it otherwise.
Well, if they do license it (I do have hope that the anime's steadily increasing popularity will provide interest in it) they clearly won't go the single volume route for release. It's too old, and the standalone stories would probably deter non-fans who just want the main story, not to mention 33 (or 34, I think) volumes is a commitment that just isn't going to happen for something that isn't One Piece level popularity. Whether 17 volumes or 12, I would jump on them either way and hope Karakuri Circus won't be too far behind (whether anime or manga) as I'm fast becoming a fan of Fujita's.

I honestly couldn't imagine Haikyuu! without the voice acting, music, and direction. They give tremendous energy to the whole thing that would be hard to do without.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 11, 2015, 06:27:34 PM
Manga sales in the U.S. are up again this year. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-10-11/icv2-n-american-manga-sales-up-13-percent-so-far-in-2015/.94076) While it's not as much as in 2014, that's still good to see. I'm sure it can be partially credited to the debuts of several high-profile series this year, such as Tokyo Ghoul, MHA, and OPM. Hopefully things keep on pace next year too.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 12, 2015, 11:31:06 AM
Good choices from Japan for the MHA poll.

Here are the results of the top ten for Japan for the curious out there:

Spoiler
10. Denki Kaminari
9. Shota Aizawa
8. Tenya Ida
7. Fumikage Tokoyami
6. Tsuyu Asui
5. All Might
4. Ochako Uraraka
3. Katsuki Bakugo
2. Shoto Todoroki
1. Izuku Midoriya

Pretty good choices. Always good when the main character is #1 in my books. Especially when it's the same character I voted for over here.  ;)
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In contrast, this is the top ten(-ish) for North America:

Spoiler
11. Gran Torino
9. Mina Ashido / Mei Hatsume (Tie)
8. Stain
7. Fumikage Tokoyami
6. Shoto Todoroki
5. Katsuki Bakugo
4. All Might
3. Ochako Uraraka
2. Tsuyu Asui
1. Izuku Midoriya

Quite a bit different. Same #1, though.
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I quite liked this chapter where Midoriya is worrying about Stain's words and Bakugo's motivations are becoming more clear. Getting the snot beat out of him is probably the best thing to happen to him since he first got Deku as a friend and Midoriya slugging him one was more than well earned.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on October 13, 2015, 09:48:47 PM
Kazune Kawahara is starting a new manga in January. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-10-12/my-love-story-high-school-debut-kawahara-to-launch-new-manga-in-january/.94110)  I have yet to read Aozora Yell or High School Debut, but since I love My Love Story, I am looking forward to her next work.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 16, 2015, 07:57:07 PM
^Definitely something I need to keep an eye out for, as do I for Hitoshi Iwaaki's new manga, Reiri. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-10-14/parasyte-iwaaki-launches-reiri-manga-with-artist-daisuke-muroi/.94114) Speaking of whom, I really need to read Historie sometime, especially since my Parasyte buzz has been rekindled now that the anime is airing on Toonami.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 16, 2015, 08:04:27 PM
Here are the rankings for the October 19th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

Assassination Classroom (Cover, Lead CP)
1- Haikyu!!
2- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
3- Hinomaru Sumo
4- My Hero Academia
5- Gintama
Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club (Center Color)
Mononofu (Not ranked)
6- Toriko
The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki (Center Color)
7- Black Clover
Samon the Summoner (Not ranked)
8- Nisekoi
9- World Trigger
Q.E.D!! (One-Shot, Center Color, 19 p.)
10- Kochikame
11- Bleach
12- Best Blue
13- Kagamigami
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 16, 2015, 08:21:50 PM
Yeah, looks like Kagamigami is on its last legs. Shame, but that's just how it goes.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 19, 2015, 01:57:33 PM
Well, my rankings for this week are pretty obvious. MHA, World Trigger, Food Wars!, and One Punch Man, were clearly the best this week with Nisekoi rounding it out. Overall though, it was a pretty good issue. Even Bleach was slightly entertaining.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 20, 2015, 10:47:29 PM
My favorite of the issue was definitely Nisekoi. While certainly not an atypical resolution for how these kinds of scenarios tend to go in manga, I still found it very well-executed, tangibly emotional, and incredibly satisfying. Really looking forward to how things will play out next.

It was a short, but satisfying issue overall. I didn't get much out of the Bleach chapter, but it was passable. The best I can say about it is that it wasn't the worst chapter in the issue, since I thought that Toriko chapter was really poorly handled, but with what I'm sure is going on with that series now, I can really only be disappointed that Shimabukuro wasn't given the time he needed to execute the arc the way he wanted to.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 22, 2015, 07:06:11 PM
No official confirmation yet, but yeah, (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2015-10-21/domain-heroaca.com-registered-under-toho-name/.94448) I think it's safe to say a My Hero Academia anime will be coming in 2016. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-10-22/my-hero-academia-gets-spinoff-manga-important-announcement-next-week/.94499) Most likely in the spring season, given the history of turnarounds in the past. Hopefully a good studio gets it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 22, 2015, 07:18:32 PM
Oh, and here are the rankings for the October 26th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

Isobe Isobee Monogatari (Cover and Lead CP, announcement of an Anime and Stage Play in 2016)
1- One Piece
2- My Hero Academia
3- Assassination Classroom
4- Food Wars! Shokugeki no Souma
5- Black Clover
Samon the Summoner (not ranked)
Takuan to Batsu no Nichijou Enma-chou (One Shot, 47 pages)
6- The Disaster of PSI Kusuo Saiki
Haikyuu!! (Center Color)
7- Gintama
8- Hinomaru Zumo
9- Kochikame
10- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
Mononofu (Center Color)
11- Toriko
12- Nisekoi
13- World Trigger
14- Bleach
15- Kagamigami
16- Best Blue
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 22, 2015, 07:28:15 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on October 22, 2015, 07:06:11 PM
No official confirmation yet, but yeah, (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2015-10-21/domain-heroaca.com-registered-under-toho-name/.94448) I think it's safe to say a My Hero Academia anime will be coming in 2016. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-10-22/my-hero-academia-gets-spinoff-manga-important-announcement-next-week/.94499) Most likely in the spring season, given the history of turnarounds in the past. Hopefully a good studio gets it.
*Crosses fingers* MappaandNishimuraMappaandNishimuraMappaandNishimuraMappaandNishimura Please please please.

Who am I kidding? It'll be Toei.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on October 22, 2015, 10:01:53 PM
If Toei gets their hands on another good WSJ series...... :burn: :burn: :burn:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 22, 2015, 11:25:57 PM
Not to go off the current topic but, here's a poll of Top Ten series manga fans have dropped (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/10/21-1/fans-confess-their-top-10-too-long-manga-series-that-i-stopped-buying-in-the-middle) which I thought interesting. Some of these are pretty obvious, of course.

Spoiler
Honorable mentions: Attack on Titan (Currently 17 volumes), Golgo 13 (Currently 177 volumes), Hajime no Ippo (Currently 111 volumes), and Yu-Gi-Oh! (38 volumes)

10. Kindaichi Case Files by Yozaburo Kanari, Seimaru Amagi, and Fumiya Sato (Currently 71 volumes)
09. Gintama by Hideaki Sorachi (Currently 60 volumes)
08. / 07. Kimi ni Todoke: From Me to You by Karuho Shiina (Currently 24 volumes) and Glass Mask by Suzue Miuchi (Currently 49 volumes) (Tie)
06. Naruto by Masashi Kishimoto. (72 volumes)
05. Oishinbo by Tetsu Kariya and Akira Hanasaki (Currently 111 volumes)
04. Hunter x Hunter by Yoshihiro Togashi (Currently 32 volumes)
03. Kochikame by Osamu Akimoto (Currently 196 volumes)
02. One Piece by Eiichiro Oda (Currently 79 volumes)
01. Detective Conan / Case Closed by Gosho Aoyama (Currently 87 volumes)
[close]

The only glaring omission to me is Bleach. I really thought it would be #1 or #2.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 22, 2015, 11:57:57 PM
I don't think that anyone can argue against the fact that both Hunter X Hunter and One Piece have seen better days....but putting them above Naruto with how bad that got during the last few years of its run?

And how is Bleach completely absent from this list? Then again, if the implication is that it was never really that good of a series to begin with, and thus a drop in quality doesn't phase people that much, then I could totally agree with its lack of presence here. :sly:

Hajime no Ippo is a simple case. It's just been going on for way too long, with a lot of unnecessary padding and teasing at big events from Morikawa. At this point he really just needs to bring the manga to its obvious final two story arcs that need to take place before it ends. It's not that people aren't interested anymore. Rather, everyone is just tired of waiting for so long without much substance to show for it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 23, 2015, 12:03:32 AM
Technically, it's a list of series people stopped buying, not stopped reading. Which, considering the length of most of those both in terms of years running and number of volumes, is pretty understandable. It is odd that Bleach isn't on the list either way, considering how dramatically sales for it drop on a per year basis. It's also interesting that Attack on Titan is an honorable mention even though it has relatively few volumes out compared to the rest; maybe readers in Japan have started to lose interest in it already?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 23, 2015, 11:17:23 AM
Well, it sure has been overexposed. It wouldn't surprise me of people bought it and just didn't understand the hype so they shrugged their shoulders and put it aside. The long running entries make sense, they're just too cumbersome to collect for being so long. HxH and KnT, fans didn't really have a choice because of hiatuses and are probably just waiting for it to be done before they pick them up again. AoT is a weird outlier.

Bleach might be because fans are just reading it out of spite now. It's a long way from being Big Three popularity now, but if you put that much time and money into it, you just might want to see your investment have value.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 25, 2015, 11:51:08 PM
This is fucking bullshit. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-10-26/himo-zairu-manga-goes-on-hiatus-due-to-online-criticism/.94631)

I am positive from reading Higashimura's other works that this series wasn't "derogatory to men" in the slightest. This reeks of unfair and archaic chauvinism and sexism from people who can't handle women being portrayed having stronger roles than men and some men portrayed in any remotely vulnerable or dependent light. I hope Higashimura doesn't give in to pressure and continues with the series, because she has every right to.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Foggle on October 25, 2015, 11:58:18 PM
I don't really know what I can say but "lol." I guess certain stories just hit too close to home for some people...
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 26, 2015, 01:03:07 AM
That's just disgusting, pathetic behavior from the fucking morons complaining about a manga hurting their feelings when it's literally doing nothing but portraying a real-life situation. There is no sexism, here. People are just fucking idiots. This really reminds me of the most recent South Park episode (and the whole season's theme, in general), making it both more hilarious yet depressing about how universal that message is.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 26, 2015, 12:25:01 PM
That chapter of Food Wars! really sets the tone for this arc. I was not expecting that turn at all. Soma might really be in over his head here because he (and everyone else) has no chance of fighting back. That last panel said it all.

Meanwhile World Trigger looks like the new arc will be starting very soon. Can't wait for that.

Another good issue.

I wasn't really a fan of the Black Clover chapter, though. It was a fairly unneeded turn from the end of the last chapter since it basically made what happened irrelevant. There was no reason that couldn't have simply happened in the capital.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 26, 2015, 10:43:38 PM
This week's issue was one of the weaker ones in a while, I feel, but still had a lot of good stuff. Really intrigued by the prospects of another invasion on the horizon in WT, as well as how Midoriya and Bakugo will possibly be able to beat All Might in MHA. My favorite of the issue was probably FW!, though, since the situation for Polar Star just got all the more desperate. The odds against Soma and co. this time really do feel insurmountable, and while I'm sure they'll pull through somehow, it's no doubt going to be one heck of a struggle.

Black Clover definitely rubbed me wrong this week as well. Everything about the Wizard King's actions in this chapter didn't make sense to me. Why did he just wait at these people's base instead of trying to save the lives of his citizens? Why is he killing off a bunch of these people when he can maybe question them and see what they were after, or if nothing else, give them a fair trial and stuff before metering out punishment? His attitude and dialogue in the chapter was also really dumb; that same sort of roundabout pretentious jabber that Bleach characters spout all the time. And yeah, Asta being kidnapped was a totally pointless development. Bleh. Really bad chapter, imo.

And while I've been following Toriko pretty well these last couple of weeks despite it jumping around so much, I couldn't for the life of me figure out why and what was happening in the latest chapter. And I still can't figure out what's going on in Arc-V either. So those also brought the issue down a little for me The core stuff that's been great lately; FW!, MHA, WT, and Nisekoi plus OPM were all still very good, of course, but I'm hoping for stronger chapters on the whole next week.

One other thing I'll mention, since I'm pretty clearly not going to be able to resume After the Jump reviews this month, is that the Naruto Jump Back reminded me that the manga was still moving at a pretty good pace and was still pretty good for a while after the timeskip. The pacing was much faster than I remembered, but that's because I'd been remembering how things were paced in the anime, where the early episodes were literally paced adapting only half a chapter per episode for the first couple of episodes. Reminds me that even before Pierrot's filler bullshit (I still can't believe that they are still padding the anime out with filler episodes even though the series has been over for almost a year at this point), Shippuden was always a really shitty adaption, which made the parts where the manga became shit even all the more shitty. Really hope they don't touch any new popular shonen series anytime soon (especially not MHA).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 26, 2015, 10:59:40 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on October 26, 2015, 10:43:38 PMBlack Clover definitely rubbed me wrong this week as well. Everything about the Wizard King's actions in this chapter didn't make sense to me. Why did he just wait at these people's base instead of trying to save the lives of his citizens? Why is he killing off a bunch of these people when he can maybe question them and see what they were after, or if nothing else, give them a fair trial and stuff before metering out punishment? His attitude and dialogue in the chapter was also really dumb; that same sort of roundabout pretentious jabber that Bleach characters spout all the time. And yeah, Asta being kidnapped was a totally pointless development. Bleh. Really bad chapter, imo.
I actually didn't understand what was happening at first. I had to reread the part where the Wizard King showed up because I didn't get how he got there. At first I thought he was their boss, then I thought it was a disguise, and then he became a Bleach character. Very confusing and stupid. I'm really starting to wonder what Tabata is trying to do, because there's no consistency here. The faster this mini-arc ends the happier I will be.

Quote from: Cartoon X on October 26, 2015, 10:43:38 PMAnd while I've been following Toriko pretty well these last couple of weeks despite it jumping around so much, I couldn't for the life of me figure out why and what was happening in the latest chapter. And I still can't figure out what's going on in Arc-V either. So those also brought the issue down a little for me The core stuff that's been great lately; FW!, MHA, WT, and Nisekoi plus OPM were all still very good, of course, but I'm hoping for stronger chapters on the whole next week.
I guess I could have mentioned those, too. Toriko, Arc V, and One Piece are skims for me since I'm pretty well lost, but Toriko looked like he copy and pasted panels from a bunch of chapters. Something tells me he's rushing it.

Quote from: Cartoon X on October 26, 2015, 10:43:38 PMOne other thing I'll mention, since I'm pretty clearly not going to be able to resume After the Jump reviews this month, is that the Naruto Jump Back reminded me that the manga was still moving at a pretty good pace and was still pretty good for a while after the timeskip. The pacing was much faster than I remembered, but that's because I'd been remembering how things were paced in the anime, where the early episodes were literally paced adapting only half a chapter per episode for the first couple of episodes. Reminds me that even before Pierrot's filler bullshit (I still can't believe that they are still padding the anime out with filler episodes even though the series has been over for almost a year at this point), Shippuden was always a really shitty adaption, which made the parts where the manga became shit even all the more shitty. Really hope they don't touch any new popular shonen series anytime soon (especially not MHA).
I've been weary of Pierrot since Flame of Recca. Pointlessly changing events, cutting story and characters, and lopping off the best half of the story. I have no idea what they were doing with that.

All signs seem to be pointing to someone like Production I.G. doing MHA from what little I've been able to dig up, so hopefully they won't get their hooks into it. Though, thinking about it, if they don't get MHA (and I'm really hoping the rumors are right and they don't) then what Jump series can they ruin instead? There's nothing else for them to destroy right now. Maybe that's why they're milking Naruto so hard.

Oh, and my chapter rankings:

Food Wars!
World Trigger
My Hero Academia
Nisekoi
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 26, 2015, 11:25:32 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 26, 2015, 10:59:40 PM
I actually didn't understand what was happening at first. I had to reread the part where the Wizard King showed up because I didn't get how he got there. At first I thought he was their boss, then I thought it was a disguise, and then he became a Bleach character. Very confusing and stupid. I'm really starting to wonder what Tabata is trying to do, because there's no consistency here. The faster this mini-arc ends the happier I will be.

According to the tagline for the chapter in the unofficial scan, next week's chapter will apparently be the end of the arc. I really hope the next arc will be much better than this one was overall.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 26, 2015, 10:59:40 PM
I guess I could have mentioned those, too. Toriko, Arc V, and One Piece are skims for me since I'm pretty well lost, but Toriko looked like he copy and pasted panels from a bunch of chapters. Something tells me he's rushing it.

Yeah, as I've said before, I'm convinced Toriko is being rushed to end sometime very soon. How soon is the real question.

I've actually been really enjoying One Piece again recently. The last couple of chapters have been a lot of fun and have really set up a lot of promising plot threads for the current arc to explore that I'm pretty excited about. In general, the series has been on an upswing again since Doflamingo's defeat, and I'm expecting some really good stuff to come out of this arc.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 26, 2015, 10:59:40 PM
All signs seem to be pointing to someone like Production I.G. doing MHA from what little I've been able to dig up, so hopefully they won't get their hooks into it. Though, thinking about it, if they don't get MHA (and I'm really hoping the rumors are right and they don't) then what Jump series can they ruin instead? There's nothing else for them to destroy right now. Maybe that's why they're milking Naruto so hard.

Hopefully that rumor pans out and I.G. gets MHA. They'd do a good job. If they don't get MHA, I'm honestly expecting Pierrot to get Black Clover when they are finally done milking Naruto. Which, as of now, I'm not feeling would be too much of a loss, honestly.

My rankings for this week are pretty similar to yours, except MHA and Nisekoi are flipped in mine. In general, those 4 have pretty much monopolized my rankings recently, though OP has slipped in occasionally these last couple months as well.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on October 26, 2015, 11:43:26 PM
At very least, we know that Toei is not involved with the supposed MHA anime since the domain was filed under TOHO's name.  That already gives me some hope that the series is being given to a decent studio.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 27, 2015, 12:04:28 AM
TOHO works with I.G. and TMS quite a bit, so they're good bets. I'd hope after Haikyu! season 2 is done, the same team could do MHA, but I fully admit that's pure wishful thinking on my part. They would be a great fit.

Speaking of MHA, you guys might get a kick out of this (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/10/25/my-hero-academia-author-draws-american-superheroes-princess-mononoke-and-more)...

Horikoshi can draw good. (I would have paid for him to draw Vash, Wolfwood, Kenshin, or Ushio and Tora, tho)

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 27, 2015, 05:49:15 AM
Horikoshi is such a great artist. I especially love those Miyazaki and Pokemon drawings.

In case anyone needed confirmation, yeah, the MHA anime is for sure happening. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-10-27/my-hero-academia-superhero-manga-tv-anime-briefly-listed/.94682) No details on what studio will be doing it yet, though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 27, 2015, 09:34:50 AM
As long as it's not Toei or Pierrot, which it doesn't seem to be, I'm good.

I know some people are complaining that it's too early, but it isn't going to be ongoing, so I'm not worried. It'll probably just be everything up to Stain and then it'll go on hiatus. There are people who don't like this trend of 25 episode season followed by hiatus, but I'm not one of them. I actually think it helps focus and production if they're not endlessly cranking episodes out and have to eventually stuff filler in there. Plus, if the manga gets bad (not that I think MHA will at this point) you can stop watching the anime before that point when the season comes to a natural ending point.

It's a better format, to me.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 30, 2015, 11:01:14 AM
I just learned Magi is entering its final arc. How has the manga been recently in contrast with the early parts?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on October 30, 2015, 01:17:33 PM
While the early parts of the Kou Empire arc made a few missteps with how Hakuryuu was characterized (which were resolved later on), it was really great overall .  I'm definitely looking forward to seeing how everything is tied up in the final arc.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 30, 2015, 09:17:57 PM
I caught up with the series again earlier today, and I have to concur with Vlord; the Kou Empire arc was excellent, and really rekindled my enthusiasm and excitement for the series. I'm really looking forward to what's in store next.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 30, 2015, 09:22:12 PM
Anyway, here are the rankings for the November 2nd issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

My Hero Academia (Cover, Lead CP, Anime Announcement)
1- Haikyu!!
One Piece (Not ranked. Was absent in issue #42)
2- Assassination Classroom
3- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
4- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
Kung-Fu Master (One-Shot, Center Color, 47 p.)
5- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
Black Clover (Center Color)
6- Mononofu (First ranking)
7- Hinomaru Sumo
8- Toriko
9- Nisekoi
10- Gintama
Samon the Summoner (Not ranked)
11- Bleach
12- Kochikame
13- Best Blue
14- Kagamigami
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-

Decent debut ranking for Mononofu. We'll see how chapter 2 does, but I have a good feeling it'll stick around.

Also, Hinomaru Zumo and Kuroko's Basketball are getting a crossover one-shot. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-10-29/kuroko-basketball-hinomaru-zumo-get-crossover-1-shot/.94793) I'm not sure how that will go down, but I'm a sucker for crossovers, and really enjoy HZ and can still appreciate the protagonists of KB, so I'll definitely check it out. Would be interesting if the english Jump ran it, though they probably won't, since Viz hasn't licensed HZ and their Jump never ran KB.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 30, 2015, 09:24:32 PM
Straighten Up is doing so well that's it odd that it hasn't been licensed. Especially since Viz licensed KnB and Haikyu!, I would think a new manga to add variety to their magazine would have been easy enough.

That's good to hear about Magi. The down-note when the arc started around here got me a bit worried. Truth be told, I'm just glad the story isn't going to be strung out for years to come and will come to a natural ending instead.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 02, 2015, 01:17:56 PM
Aww, I was missing World Trigger this week.  :-\

Not the best issue this week due to missing the aforementioned series, but there were some good chapters. The ones that actually had plot movement, especially. Midoriya and Bakugo beating All Might, even with a handicap, sure wasn't expected at all, but was great to see. Same with Soma facing impossible odds in Food Wars. I sure can't wait to see what he'll do next. Nisekoi continues its current story and OPM stars one of my favorite side-characters. All in all, not a bad read this week.

My Hero Academia
Food Wars!
One Punch Man
Nisekoi
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on November 02, 2015, 08:28:59 PM
The My Hero Academia anime is being made by Studio Bones (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-11-02/studio-bones-animates-my-hero-academia-show-posts-1st-visual/.94944)

It's good to know that the series is in safe hands.  :)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 02, 2015, 08:50:38 PM
Bones wouldn't have been my first choice, but they are definitely a very capable studio. It's good to know that MHA will get some fair treatment.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 02, 2015, 08:58:15 PM
Awesome! One of my friends is a mega-MHA fan and has been hoping for Bones to make this above anyone else.

After Blood Blockade Battlefront, I'm definitely eager to see what they'll do here.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 05, 2015, 08:07:40 AM
MHA staff revealed. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-11-05/my-hero-academia-tv-anime-main-staff-revealed/.95027)

Yousuke Kuroda is the lead writer.

Sold.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 05, 2015, 08:30:03 PM
Kenji Nagasaki as the director to boot. He did some fine work on Gundam Build Fighters, so I'm expecting quite a strong showing to come out of this team.  :)

In very loosely related news, apparently Twin Star Exorcists has an announcement coming next month. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2015-11-03/twin-star-exorcists-manga-has-important-announcement-in-december/.94886) So, it's probably getting an anime next year too. Reminds me I've been meaning to look into more of that series, since I found the first chapter surprisingly engaging despite my weariness of ghost/demon/monster-fighting battle shonen.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 05, 2015, 08:38:14 PM
Anyhoo, here are the rankings for the November 9th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

Hinomaru Sumo (Cover, Lead CP, Crossover with Kuroko's Basketball)
1- One Piece
2- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
3- Assassination Classroom
Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club (Center Color)
4- My Hero Academia
5- Haikyu!!
Toriko (Center Color)
6- Nisekoi
7- Gintama
Mononofu (Center Color)
8- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
9- Black Clover
10- World Trigger
11- Samon the Summoner (First ranking)
12- Bleach
13- Kochikame
14- Best Blue
15- Kagamigami
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-

I got caught up with Straighten Up! last weekend, and man, I'm really, really enjoying it. It's blend of well-placed humor, strong characters, potent dramatic writing, and an underlying vibe of cuteness just makes it irresistible to me. It's a crying shame that Viz seems to have passed on it, especially since we good use a sports manga like it in the english Jump.

Though, maybe we still might get one, since Kaito, the creator of the short-lived but fondly remembered Cross Manage, is debuting a new series called Buddy Strike the week after next, and I'm sure it'll be run as a Jump Start. Admittedly, I don't know if it's actually going to be a sports manga, since the only thing known about it right now is it's name, but it sounds like one. Either way, I really enjoyed Cross Manage, and am really looking forward to seeing another one of Kaito's works in Jump. Hopefully this one will prove more successful for him.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 05, 2015, 08:53:02 PM
I kinda wish they would just make a Jump SQ magazine for NA and just put the monthly series in it. Charge an extra subscription or whatever, but it would be worth it. It would also be a better deal than a dollar per chapter of Platinum End, which I have yet to read because of that stupidity. Of course they can't add things like BBB, but that's understandable. I just don't want to pay a stupid price for ONE series.

Anyway, Mononofu seems to have had a better start than Samon, which I can't say surprises me. I didn't like chapter 3 of Mononofu as much as the first two, but it was definitely the better series of the pair. Looks like Kagamigami and Best Blue are the next on the chopping block, which is a shame since what I read of them were pretty decent. Jump is pretty ruthless with cutting series these days, though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 05, 2015, 09:06:56 PM
They really should do that. When the digital Jump started, it only had six launch titles, and they really only need about that many for a lengthy monthly service anyway. And they have that many. I mean, they've got...

Blue Exorcist
Twin Star Exorcists
D. Gray Man
7th Garden
Seraph of the End
Platinum End

...and they can license and put in JoJolion and maybe something else for good measure, and you have a lineup for a monthly imprint that would easily attract quite a few subscribers. If I'd be interested in reading at least half of those series, I'd definitely subscribe to it. Certainly would be more bang for my buck than literally one buck for one chapter.

I did recently check out the first chapter of Platinum End via scans, however, and while there were aspects to the drama in the MC's background that felt a little forced to me, it seems like a promising premise with a very Death Note feel, so I'm interested in seeing where it goes.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on November 06, 2015, 01:11:33 AM
Quote from: Cartoon X on November 05, 2015, 08:38:14 PM
Though, maybe we still might get one, since Kaito, the creator of the short-lived but fondly remembered Cross Manage, is debuting a new series called Buddy Strike the week after next, and I'm sure it'll be run as a Jump Start. Admittedly, I don't know if it's actually going to be a sports manga, since the only thing known about it right now is it's name, but it sounds like one. Either way, I really enjoyed Cross Manage, and am really looking forward to seeing another one of Kaito's works in Jump. Hopefully this one will prove more successful for him.
Buddy Strike is a baseball manga. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-11-06/cross-manage-kaito-launches-buddy-strike-baseball-manga-in-shonen-jump/.95034)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 06, 2015, 08:54:31 AM
Thought so! I'm looking forward to it!  :)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 06, 2015, 10:09:08 PM
Here's an interesting one from ANN:

Whatever happened to Bleach? (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/feature/2015-11-06/whatever-happened-to-bleach/.95031)

I do think Bleach will be a case study in a few years of how NOT to create a shonen manga. It's broken every rule and continues to find new rules nobody ever knew existed that it broke in the process.

It does raise the question of what Kubo will do when it's all over. I'm not so sure anyone will trust him with another battle manga again but then what else will he do? Battle manga aside, the man has proven he can't be trusted with plot, characters, fight scenes, drama, or writing. He's going to have one heck of an uphill battle to prove to anyone why they should ever read anything by him again.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 06, 2015, 10:59:37 PM
Oh, there was this really good comment in the discussion thread of the article:

QuoteBleach has been in the trash can for a very long time, and this arc is particularly bad - there are just so MANY of these quincy dicks, and each of them gets a full-blown fight scene at least! Sure, there were a lot of Arrancar, but you weren't expected to pay attention to any of them for more than one, maybe two chapters at the most. Every single one of these quincy dudes takes a 4-6 chapter fight scene to take down, at the very least. And there's one for every single letter of the alphabet! Arrrrgh!

But as bad as that is, I really think that the series has a much more fundamental issue. A major hole in Kubo's fight scene chops, which is a huge problem as the story revolves around swordfighting. His persistent refusal to ever have the setting play a major role in a fight.

Now, by this, I don't just mean that his never draws backgrounds. Backgrounds can add to mood, but that's not what I mean. I mean that where the fight takes place never influences the outcome of the fight. Here are some fight scenes where this is very much not a problem, for comparison:

Kill Bill (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TrZuYfti-pE)

Berserk (http://imgur.com/a/lK2iT)

Jojo's Bizarre Adventure (http://imgur.com/a/vkSCn)

World Trigger (http://imgur.com/a/ITP2I)

You can see what I mean, I hope. None of those fight scenes could have taken place in the same way if you changed the environment. They would play out radically different if you transplanted them to a different location.

By comparison, the setting never affects anything in Bleach. Like, really when was the last time where a fight scene takes place really mattered to how it played out? Kyouraku using the quincy city for cover kind of counts, but it's pretty weak tea. And before that, I think you have to go all the way back to Ichigo getting his sword stuck in the ceiling while fighting the winged hollow with Don Kanonji. Bleach characters just hover in a featureless void while fighting.

This matter because the use of setting is one way for an author to create dramatic tension; even if one character is stronger than another, the weaker character can still win through other factors, whether it's a clever strategy, a unique ability interaction, or one character using the environment to their advantage. Just look at that Berserk fight scene. In a straight up fight on open ground, Guts would destroy Serpico in seconds. But on the cliff edge, using the environment to his advantage, Serpico is able to very seriously threaten Guts - and, crucially, delay him.

Now, that's not to say that setting should be a crucial part of EVERY fight scene. Like any writing technique, it's not appropriate every time. But to almost entirely eschew it, as Kubo does, means that he has one fewer knob to turn in making his fights memorable and tense. There are fewer ways for him to resolve fights without resorting to simple power levels, so it comes down to powerlevels a lot more than it should. There are also fewer ways for him to make fight scenes stand out from one another, so they start to feel pretty samey.

It might seem like a small thing, but it really is a drag on the whole series, and a problem that's been building up for a long time.
Reminds me of what we were taking about in the other thread in regards to battle manga and adventure manga. One is thinking of the bigger picture: how the encounter and fight has to do with the bigger problem at hand, and the other is thinking of how this one fight is going to look cool and nothing beyond it.

Nothing in Bleach right now links back to whatever the story is supposed to be. It's all encapsulated in its little world and in response when a fight is over you never think about it again because you're already on to the next one.

Of course it's not Bleach's only problem (not by a LONG shot) but it was interesting to see there are others out there who see there are fundamental problems with it than us.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 07, 2015, 02:13:06 AM
Bleach has had, and still has, far too many problems to count. However, this passage in particular is very telling of one of its biggest problems by far:

QuoteThe arc's final stretch consisted of even more ceaseless fighting, but this time it was mostly between characters who had only rarely appeared in the series before. Over fifty characters got involved in the final confrontation with Aizen. Some of these characters were just now appearing for the first time, simply written in to provide the tenth- through fifteenth-most important Soul Reapers with individual opponents. Kubo's efforts to make the battle a grand spectacle backfired by favoring quantity over quality. By the end of things, I was feeling very sore about Bleach, because it seemed to be putting off the final Ichigo vs. Aizen fight for as long as possible while offering nothing decent in the meantime. On top of that, after being built up for years as tremendous threats, the three highest-ranking members of Aizen's army were defeated in a remarkably anticlimactic way. Aizen even dispatched one himself just to pull off the cliché evil overlord stunt of showing how ruthless he was.

First off, if you've presented a main goal for you heroes to achieve (in this case, defeating an ultimate villain), then the focus of your story should involve the characters undertaking the steps to reach that goal. The drama comes from how their journey and experiences up to that point affect and change them, and there should be some connecting theme conveyed by each of their personal struggles to meet that goal. This isn't rocket science. It's story-telling 101, but apparently Kubo didn't get the memo.

When you start dragging out the story and keep moving the goal further away like a person dangling a carrot from a string and yanking it away at the last minute to move a Jackass along, all of the essential elements that make up a good story and characters get lost in the mix, and your audience will lose their investment. Not long after that their patience to keep sticking with your story will be gone as well.

But of all the ways to mess up your series, shoehorning in tons of characters to make your conflict seem bigger and prolong the duration of your story is by far the worst offender. Not only does it take away focus from the characters that your audience really cared about in the first place, but it also takes your audience out of the story in general by cheapening the experience. Nobody cares about whether a character that they barely know (or never even met before) lives or dies or wins a fight against some other character that nobody knows or cares about. It just tests the patience of people who were genuinely interested in the progression of the main characters' story, until they lose that interest altogether.

[As a side note, while it got brushed off with a pass in the article, Naruto had a very similar problem of introducing new characters or utilizing ones that we barely saw in a series of seemingly endless fights to make the whole Shinobi War seem like a much bigger conflict. Though, the ultimate goal was actually the opposite problem from what Bleach had. Rather than having a central antagonist, Naruto as a series couldn't seem to make up its mind on who its ultimate villain was, and seemingly kept changing its mind every 50 chapters or so. My point being that it may have been better than Bleach, but it was still absolute garbage during its final arc, all the same, and shouldn't be allowed to get away with that so easily.]

To have an audience tentatively follow a huge cast of characters and stay interested in all of their individual story-lines takes a great deal of skill as a writer, and involves tons of planning, build-up, and coordination in order to make it work without massive pacing problems. Naoki Urasawa and George R. R. Martin are among the very few names (in all of fiction) that come to mind when I think of writers who can successfully make a legitimately interesting and relatively easy to follow story which features a huge ensemble cast. And in both cases they tend to write more story and character-driven series in the first place.

With long-running battle shonen manga, I tend to feel that writers like Akira Toriyama, Yoshihiro Togashi, and Echiro Oda have a better grasp on how to handle a large cast for stories of that nature. In all three cases, they will (usually) only use the characters necessary to the story that they want to tell, write-off the ones who aren't necessary, and only bring back recurring characters when it actually serves a purpose to the overall progression of the story. New characters were mostly introduced at the beginning of a new arc, after other characters were killed or written-off, or if they served the plot in some way. And while you could argue that Toriyama in particular tended to write-off characters that people actually wanted to see in action, that was really only post-Namek, and even then, you have to agree that he at least kept his stories focused by putting a limit on his roster of battle-ready characters.

By contrast, Kubo seemed to think that just throwing in more characters would distract his audience from a lack of real story to begin with, and assumed that it would instead make the dilemma of his story and the inevitable defeat of his ultimate villain (the goal for the main characters to achieve) seem all the grander. Yet, all he managed to do was to aggravate his own fan-base and kill any sort of momentum that his story had going for it in the first place.

But after all of this, I must say that I consider Bleach to be an incredibly important  manga. I am honest-to-god fascinated by just how shockingly bad it is in how much it managed to (and still manages to) consistently get wrong for well over a decade's worth of material. I truly believe that this could and should be used as a teaching tool for future writers of serialized written stories to see, learn, and understand just exactly how NOT to write a long-running story.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 09, 2015, 06:44:18 PM
Bleach is important. I can even go as far to say I think it deserved the initial success it had even though it wasn't perfect. But the longer it went on the more it proved that Kubo's writing skills are not up there with the genre greats. If the Fullbring arc's wannabe Chapter Black attempt that went nowhere didn't prove it, this current arc of meaningless fight after meaningless fight is proving it.


My rankings for this week:

World Trigger
Food Wars!
My Hero Academia
Nisekoi
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 12, 2015, 08:22:12 AM
And to the surprise of no one. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-11-12/toshiaki-iwashiro-kagamigami-manga-ends-on-monday/.95287)

Dang. I hope he is able to create a hit next time.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 13, 2015, 11:02:10 PM
I'm certainly not surprised considering how the most recently scanlated chapter ended. I can't say I'm crushed about it since the series didn't really come into it's own and was able to endear me as strongly as Gakkyu Hotei managed to do, but it is a shame that the series didn't have the breathing room it need to really reach it's potential, since there were quite a few good ideas and characters in it. This was Iwashiro's third series for Jump, but I hope he still gets another go, because he has a great art style and some really good ideas, but he just can't seem to hit a sweet spot with japanese readers, it seems.

Anyways, here are the rankings for the November 16th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

Buddy Strike (Cover, Lead CP, New Series, 54p.)
1- Assassination Classroom
2- My Hero Academia
Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma (Center Color)
3- Toriko
4- Hinomaru Sumo
5- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
6- Haikyu!!
Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club (Center Color)
7- Black Clover
8- Gintama
9- Mononofu
10- Kochikame
11- Samon the Summoner
World Trigger (Not ranked. Was absent in issue #44)
12- Nisekoi
13- Bleach
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard- (Center Color)
14- Best Blue
15- Kagamigami (END)

Surprised Toriko ranked so high this week, but the chapter being ranked was a pretty strong one. Very disappointed to see that ranking for Nisekoi, since I loved that chapter myself. But wow, SU! getting color pages two weeks in a row really speaks to how well it's been doing and how much faith Jump has for it going forward. Been loving the series myself, so I share the enthusiasm. I just wish Viz's Jump would pick it up!  :il_hahaha:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 15, 2015, 11:21:27 AM
First teaser for the My Hero Academia anime is out. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-11-15/my-hero-academia-tv-anime-1st-video-introduces-superhero-premise/.95413)

I think the voices fit well! Hope to see more of the animation in future trailers.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 16, 2015, 08:43:08 AM
I really liked everything about it. The voice acting, music, animation, and art direction all look really good. Given that I already know the talent of the director and writer, as well as the source material, I'm definitely sold on this.

I'm thinking a 25 episode season that starts this spring is very possible, and I would highly welcome it. Especially with the staff it has. I actually hope Yousuke Kuroda is able to make some filler of his own at some point because there's a lot he could do.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 16, 2015, 07:47:40 PM
Hey, Buddy Strike was actually pretty good. It would be nice to have a sports manga in Weekly Jump again, so I hope it does well.

That was a good chapter of Black Clover. Simple, but it had more character in it than the series has had in a while. I hope there's more chapters like this.

Also typical goodness fro World Trigger, Food Wars!, Nisekoi, and MHA this week. Though Nisekoi looks to have the arc ended so who knows if it will continue this roll its been on. I hope he doesn't slip here and keeps up with how things have been going.


My rankings:

My Hero Academia
World Trigger
Food Wars!
Buddy Strike
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 17, 2015, 12:34:25 AM
Wow, this issue was extraordinary. Every series, Bleach included surprisingly, brought something substantial and entertaining to the table, and Buddy Strike's first chapter shows tremendous promise and a polished sense of art and characterization that I'd expected of Kaito after Cross Manage. An easy contender for one of the best issues of this year. If I can manage to appropriate enough time, I really want to resume After the Jump writeups with this issue, because between the debut of Buddy Strike and everything else it had to offer, there's so much great stuff to dig into and write about.

My rankings:

Nisekoi
World Trigger
Buddy Strike
Black Clover
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 17, 2015, 08:24:45 AM
Quote from: Cartoon X on November 17, 2015, 12:34:25 AMIf I can manage to appropriate enough time, I really want to resume After the Jump writeups with this issue, because between the debut of Buddy Strike and everything else it had to offer, there's so much great stuff to dig into and write about.
I hope sure hope you get the time! It was a great issue. No bad chapters is a rarity even with as many good series as Jump runs.

Good rankings, I really enjoyed all of those chapters. We would only be lucky if all issues were this good.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 18, 2015, 03:13:43 PM
And Best Blue is done. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-11-18/best-blue-swimming-manga-to-end-in-shonen-jump/.95520)

So far only Straighten Up has managed to survive this year in Jump. I hope Mononofu and Buddy Strike are able to last. They look like they'll add a good dose of variety in it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on November 18, 2015, 07:44:47 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 27, 2015, 12:04:28 AM
TOHO works with I.G. and TMS quite a bit, so they're good bets. I'd hope after Haikyu! season 2 is done, the same team could do MHA, but I fully admit that's pure wishful thinking on my part. They would be a great fit.

Speaking of MHA, you guys might get a kick out of this (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/10/25/my-hero-academia-author-draws-american-superheroes-princess-mononoke-and-more)...

Horikoshi can draw good. (I would have paid for him to draw Vash, Wolfwood, Kenshin, or Ushio and Tora, tho)
Deadpool!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Foggle on November 18, 2015, 11:40:16 PM
That Deadpool is so good.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on November 19, 2015, 12:19:26 AM
A-men. Now I want to see more mangaka do superheroes.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on November 19, 2015, 01:36:50 PM
Twin Star Exorcists is getting a TV anime (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-11-19/twin-star-exorcists-manga-gets-tv-anime/.95563)

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 19, 2015, 04:03:48 PM
Perfect fit for a one cour season and then another at a later date. Glad it got an anime. From what I've read, it deserves it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 20, 2015, 11:13:22 PM
Here are the rankings for the November 23rd issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

Haikyu!! (Cover, Lead CP)
1- One Piece
2- Assassination Classroom
Buddy Strike (Center Color, 25 p.)
3- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
4- My Hero Academia
5- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
6- Mononofu
7- Toriko
Hinomaru Sumo (Center Color)
8- Kochikame
Full Charge!! Kaden-chan (One-Shot, Center Color, 33 p.) (Main series published in Jump+)
9- Black Clover
10- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
11- Bleach
12- Samon the Summoner
Gintama (Not ranked. Was absent in issue #45)
13- Nisekoi
14- Best Blue (END)
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-
World Trigger (Absent)

Mononofu looks to be doing pretty well. I'm pretty hopeful it'll stick around for a good while. Once again, though, I'm surprised at the low Nisekoi ranking, cause that chapter was another great one. I hope the latter chapters of the arc will get better ranks.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 20, 2015, 11:19:42 PM
It's strange that as good as Nisekoi has been lately that it's getting such low ratings. Maybe it's a good thing that it appears to be wrapping everything up. Though I bet Samon will fall under it eventually. That one's just been a swing and a miss.

Glad about Mononofu and it having such a high rating so early. I just hope Buddy Strike is popular, too.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 20, 2015, 11:28:38 PM
Yeah, it's a good thing that Nisekoi is wrapping up as it is, so low rankings won't hurt it as much as it would a series in the middle of it's story. I just hope Komi keeps pace with the story as he's been doing this last year to deliver a satisfying final arc and conclusion.

I don't expect Samon to last. It debuted in the bottom 5, and there's no short-term series under it that's underperforming now that Best Blue's out. It'll likely be the first to get the boot when another new series comes in.

And yeah, I really hope Buddy Strike will stick around for the long term. Kaito managed to do so much with Cross Manage despite it's short lenght, so I'm eager to see him get a second chance and find more success, and be able to develop a longer and more fleshed out story this time around.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 23, 2015, 05:20:29 PM
Despite missing World Trigger it was another pretty good issue. I'm really wondering where MHA is planning on going next, as this chapter has laid out a few different ways it could go. Nisekoi and Black Clover were both enjoyable reads, and Buddy Strike continues on to show the first chapter wasn't a fluke. Though the Kakashi thing at the end was a bit odd. I'm going to be disappointed if Buddy Strike doesn't stick around, honestly.

My rankings:

My Hero Academia
Nisekoi
Buddy Strike
Black Clover
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on November 25, 2015, 12:18:17 AM
Kazuhiro Fujita is launching a horror manga in Weekly Shonen Sunday next year. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-11-25/ushio-and-tora-creator-kazuhiro-fujita-to-launch-horror-manga/.95752)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 25, 2015, 09:20:24 AM
Looks like he is part of Sunday's new initiative after all.

Gotta say, I'm interested. But I hope we actually get to read this one. NONE of his works have ever been licensed before.

Though I do hope this doesn't make an anime adaption of Karakuri Circus or Moonlight Act less likely since he won't be available to help with sequences them like Ushio & Tora. As far as I'm concerned as long as it's MAPPA and Nishimura, I'll keep watching.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on November 25, 2015, 10:03:21 PM
I hope someone will translate it when the it comes out.  I'm definitely interested in reading more of Fujita's work.

In other news, Silver Spoon is returning from hiatus in January. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-11-25/hiromu-arakawa-silver-spoon-manga-returns-in-january/.95771) :shakeshakeshake: :shakeshakeshake: :shakeshakeshake:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 27, 2015, 12:12:48 AM
It's great to see Fujita start up a new series. I hope we don't have to wait too many years for a pickup. I'd love if Viz made a digital Sunday imprint so that we could get the series as a simulpub like with Jump.

And of course, I could not be more excited for the return of Silver Spoon! It's been an agonizing wait, and I'm excited to see where Arakawa will take the series in what will probably be it's final arc.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 27, 2015, 12:14:12 AM
Here are the rankings for the November 30th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

Nisekoi (Cover, Lead CP, 4th Anniversary)
1- One Piece
2- My Hero Academia
Assassination Classroom (Center Color)
Buddy Strike (23 p., not ranked)
3- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
One-Shot (Center Color, 47 p.)
4- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
5- Haikyu!!
Black Clover (Center Color)
6- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
7- Hinomaru Sumo
8- Mononofu
Gintama (Not ranked. Was absent in issue #46)
9- Toriko
10- Kochikame
11- World Trigger
12- Bleach
13- Samon the Summoner
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 27, 2015, 09:43:26 AM
Yep, Samon's next on the way out next. No surprise there.

Anyway, it's a shame at World Trigger, because it is still as good as ever. I think he needs to start the new arc already and grab some new attention again. The random one week breaks because of his health are taking a toll on the popularity of the series. While it won't be canceled anytime soon due to the merchandise doing really well, I am worried that it'll fall too low that it will never recover again. The series has been in the rank wars for a long time now, after all.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 28, 2015, 12:25:35 AM
If Ai Yazawa is healthy enough to draw new Nana illustrations for a calender of all things, (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2015-11-27/ai-yazawa-draws-brand-new-nana-calendar-for-cookie-mag/.95869) what is stopping her from resuming the damn fricken' manga already?  :srs:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on November 29, 2015, 09:39:12 PM
The Top 30 Best Selling Manga of 2015 list has been released. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-11-29/top-selling-manga-in-japan-by-series-2015/.95913)
These are the top 10:
Quote
1. One Piece - 14,102,521
2. The Seven Deadly Sins - 10,304,112
3. Attack on Titan - 8,778,048
4. Assassination Classroom - 8,605,861
5. Kingdom - 8,569,215
6. Haikyu!! - 6,531,508    
7. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma - 4,321,830
8. Terra Formars - 4,188,158
9. Prison School - 4,058,119
10. Tokyo Ghoul:re - 3,758,541

This is pretty much what I expected overall.  The only real surprise to me is Kingdom's high sales since it only sold 2,516,278 last year and it hasn't had an anime since early 2014.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 30, 2015, 09:26:22 AM
It's strange how far Magi has fallen since its peak.

With sales like that, shouldn't Food Wars be considered one of the "Big 3" now? It outclasses Bleach.  :P
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on November 30, 2015, 11:41:31 AM
Magi's sales were being boosted by the anime for the past years.  If it gets a third season next year, which I really hope that it does, the sales will probably go back up.

Bleach being outranked by 6 other Shonen Jump series shows how irrelevant the term "Big 3" is.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 30, 2015, 11:47:05 AM
Also worth noting that World Trigger is right beside it. Glad to see volume sales are pretty strong for it. Should make it safe for a while.

I think this also a big hint as to why Toriko's getting the bum rush out the door. For a series that was once selling so high to not even make the Top 30 is a big drop.

And I hope Shogakukan's big push this coming year works out for them. Only Magi and Detective Conan are in the Top 30 for them. They need some fresh hits, especially with Magi winding down.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 30, 2015, 03:59:56 PM
I've enjoyed these recent chapters of Black Clover far more than the previous arc. Tabata is using the characters to dictate the drama and the conflict instead of just throwing characters at the wall to see what sticks. I'm hoping he's beginning to get into the groove.

World Trigger looks like it's starting the next arc, so here's hoping Ashihara can keep it up with his health the way it is. This might finally be the step the characters need to reach A-Rank and begin the away missions.

Meanwhile, that might have been one of the best chapters of MHA. Shigaraki and Midoriya just sit around having a talk, but it really solidifies Shigaraki's creep factor. Everyone, even the fans, were paying so much attention to Stain they forgot that there is much worse out there than him. Really can't wait to see where this is going.

This week:

My Hero Academia
World Trigger
Black Clover
Buddy Strike

I really wish they'd pick up Buddy Strike, but since they still haven't picked up Straighten Up, it doesn't look good for it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 01, 2015, 11:35:13 AM
Mob Psycho 100 is getting a TV anime and it's being produced by BONES. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-12-01/one-punch-man-creator-mob-psycho-100-manga-gets-tv-anime/.95972)

I guess OPM's success has lead to interest in ONE's other series.  I enjoyed what little I've seen of the manga, so I'm looking forward to this.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 03, 2015, 09:22:30 AM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on November 19, 2015, 01:36:50 PM
Twin Star Exorcists is getting a TV anime (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-11-19/twin-star-exorcists-manga-gets-tv-anime/.95563)
Uh oh. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-12-03/studio-pierrot-to-animate-twin-star-exorcists-tv-anime/.96054)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 03, 2015, 11:24:50 AM
Well, it's not as bad as if Toei had gotten it.  It still may end up being good but considering how Pierrot handled the pacing in Tokyo Ghoul, I'm not too optimistic.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Foggle on December 03, 2015, 12:19:22 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on December 03, 2015, 09:22:30 AM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on November 19, 2015, 01:36:50 PM
Twin Star Exorcists is getting a TV anime (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-11-19/twin-star-exorcists-manga-gets-tv-anime/.95563)
Uh oh. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-12-03/studio-pierrot-to-animate-twin-star-exorcists-tv-anime/.96054)
Even the poster is fuck-ugly...
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 03, 2015, 12:25:04 PM
Quote from: Foggle on December 03, 2015, 12:19:22 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on December 03, 2015, 09:22:30 AM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on November 19, 2015, 01:36:50 PM
Twin Star Exorcists is getting a TV anime (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-11-19/twin-star-exorcists-manga-gets-tv-anime/.95563)
Uh oh. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-12-03/studio-pierrot-to-animate-twin-star-exorcists-tv-anime/.96054)
Even the poster is fuck-ugly...
Awful perspective, generic coloring, and the faces are off-model.

Throw in the fact that it's Pierrot and you've got one bad first impression.

It's a shame. The series deserved better.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 03, 2015, 01:16:14 PM
The last good thing to come out of that studio was Level E.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 03, 2015, 02:45:12 PM
Osomatsu-san is really good, but aside from that, I agree Level E is the last good thing the studio has worked on (and even that was just a co-production with David Productions).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 04, 2015, 03:45:57 AM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on December 01, 2015, 11:35:13 AM
Mob Psycho 100 is getting a TV anime and it's being produced by BONES. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-12-01/one-punch-man-creator-mob-psycho-100-manga-gets-tv-anime/.95972)

One more anime to look forward to!  :)

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on December 03, 2015, 09:22:30 AM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on November 19, 2015, 01:36:50 PM
Twin Star Exorcists is getting a TV anime (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-11-19/twin-star-exorcists-manga-gets-tv-anime/.95563)
Uh oh. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-12-03/studio-pierrot-to-animate-twin-star-exorcists-tv-anime/.96054)

One less anime to look forward to...  :(
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 04, 2015, 03:49:08 AM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on December 03, 2015, 02:45:12 PM
Osomatsu-san is really good, but aside from that, I agree Level E is the last good thing the studio has worked on (and even that was just a co-production with David Productions).

Level E can't be the "last good thing" to come out of Pierrot because Osomatsu-san is good, silly.  ::)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 04, 2015, 04:21:14 AM
Here are the rankings for the December 7th issue of Weekly Shonen Jump:

One Piece (Cover, Lead CP)
1 - Assassination Classroom
Koro-sensei Quest! (Special Chapter)
2 - Hinomaru Zumou
Kochira Katsushika-ku Kameari Kouen-mae Hashutsujo (CP)
3 - My Hero Academia
4 - Food Wars! Shokugeki no Souma
Ayakashi Ishoku Henitai Garo (CP, One Shot)
5 - The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
6 - Haikyuu!!
7 - Samon the Summoner
Buddy Strike (not ranked)
8 - Black Clover
9 - Toriko
10 - Gintama
11 - Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
12 - Mononofu
Isobe Isobee Monogatari (CP)
13 - Nisekoi
14 - Bleach

Not a good week for SU! and Mononofu.  :( Hoping these low rankings will be outliers for them. And ouch for Nisekoi. Guess japanese readers just didn't care for the recent arc much.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 04, 2015, 05:14:17 AM
I'm disappointed that I wasn't able to cover Buddy Strike's Jump Start run, and will probably miss the first few issues of the new year too. I'm going to be relieved when this month is over and I can start doing stuff like After the Jump again.

But, with the 2015 year of Jump over, I thought it would be neat to look back at how I ranked certain series throughout the year in the surveys, a lot of which luckily I had archived for After the Jump reviews. Though, I had to estimate for some of them since I wasn't reading Jump until the month of free preview issues started in late January, and I wasn't recording my survey picks until I started writing After the Jump reviews in May.

Spoiler

Issue 1:

1 - World Trigger
2 - Toriko
3 - Food Wars!
4 - Gakkyu Hotei

Issue 2:

1 - Food Wars!
2 - World Trigger
3 - Gakkyu Hotei
4 - Naruto (Jump Back)

Issue 3:

1 - Food Wars!
2 - World Trigger
3 - One Piece
4 - Naruto (Jump Back)

Issue 4/5:

1 - Food Wars!
2 - One Piece
3 - World Trigger
4 - Toriko

Issue 6/7:

1 - Food Wars!
2 - Assassination Classroom
3 - One Piece
4 - Toriko

Issue 8:

1 - Food Wars!
2 - World Trigger
3 - One Piece
4 - Toriko

Issue 9:

1 - Food Wars!
2 - Gakkyu Hotei
3 - Nisekoi
4 - One Piece

Issue 10:

1 - Food Wars!
2 - One Piece
3 - Gakkyu Hotei
4 - Nisekoi


Issue 11:

1 - Food Wars!
2 - World Trigger
3 - Gakkyu Hotei
4 - Toriko

Issue 12:

1 - Food Wars!
2 - Gakkyu Hotei
3 - Kagamigami
4 - Black Clover

Issue 13:

1 - Food Wars!
2 - Gakkyu Hotei
3 - Kagamigami
4 - World Trigger

Issue 14:

1 - Food Wars!
2 - Gakkyu Hotei
3 - Toriko
4 - Ultra Battle Satellite

Issue 15:

1 - Food Wars!
2 - Gakkyu Hotei
3 - Toriko
4 - Ultra Battle Satellite 

Issue 16:

1 - Food Wars!
2 - Toriko
3 - World Trigger
4 - Gakkyu Hotei

Issue 17:

1 - Food Wars!
2 - Gakkyu Hotei
3 - Toriko
4 - One Piece

Issue 18:

1 - Food Wars!
2 - My Hero Academia
3 - Gakkyu Hotei
4 - World Trigger

Issue 19:

1 - Food Wars!
2 - World Trigger
3 - Gakkyu Hotei
4 - One Piece

Issue 20:

1 - My Hero Academia
2 - Gakkyu Hotei
3 - Black Clover
4 - World Trigger

Issue 21:

1 - My Hero Academia
2 - Food Wars!
3 - Gakkyu Hotei
4 - World Trigger

Issue 22/23:

1 - My Hero Academia
2 - Gakkyu Hotei
3 - World Trigger
4 - Toriko

Issue 24:

1 - Gakkyu Hotei
2 - Straighten Up!
3 - Toriko
4 - Food Wars!

Issue 25:

1 - Food Wars!
2 - World Trigger
3 - Straighten Up!
4 - Black Clover

Issue 26:

1 - Black Clover
2 - My Hero Academia
3 - Food Wars!
4 - Devilyman

Issue 27:

1 - World Trigger
2 - My Hero Academia
3 - Devilyman
4 - One-Punch Man

Issue 28:

1 - Gakkyu Hotei
2 - One Piece
3 - Food Wars!
4 - Devilyman

Issue 29:

1 - World Trigger
2 - Toriko
3 - Food Wars!
4- Naruto

Issue 30:

1 - Foile A Deux
2 - My Hero Academia
3 - One Piece
4 - Naruto

Issue 31:

1 - Food Wars!
2 - My Hero Academia
3 - Nisekoi
4 - Toriko

Issue 32:

1 - Nisekoi
2 - World Trigger
3 - One-Punch Man
4 - Naruto

Issue 33:

1 - Food Wars!
2 - One Piece
3 - My Hero Academia
4 - Best Blue

Issue 34:

1 - Nisekoi
2 - Food Wars!
3 - My Hero Academia
4 - Toriko

Issue 35:

1 - Food Wars!
2 - My Hero Academia
3 - Nisekoi
4 - World Trigger

Issue 36:

1 - Food Wars!
2 - My Hero Academia
3 - One Piece
4 - World Trigger

Issue 37/38:

1 - My Hero Academia
2 - World Trigger
3 - Food Wars!
4 - Blue Exorcist

Issue 39:

1 - Food Wars!
2 - One Piece
3 - My Hero Academia
4 - Nisekoi

Issue 40:

1 - My Hero Academia
2 - One Piece
3 - World Trigger
4 - Food Wars!

Issue 41:

1 - My Hero Academia
2 - World Trigger
3 - One Piece
4 - Food Wars!

Issue 42:

1 - Mononofu
2 - World Trigger
3 - Toriko
4 - My Hero Academia

Issue 43:

1 - One Piece
2 - Mononofu
3 - Food Wars!
4 - My Hero Academia

Issue 44:

1 - Food Wars!
2 - One Piece
3 - My Hero Academia
4 - Mononofu

Issue 45:

1 - Food Wars!
2 - My Hero Academia
3 - World Trigger
4 - Nisekoi

Issue 46:

1 - My Hero Academia
2 - Food Wars!
3 - World Trigger
4 - One Piece

Issue 47:

1 - Nisekoi
2 - Food Wars!
3 - World Trigger
4 - My Hero Academia

Issue 48:

1 - Food Wars!
2 - World Trigger
3 - Nisekoi
4 - My Hero Academia

Issue 49:

1 - My Hero Academia
2 - Food Wars!
3 - Nisekoi
4 - One-Punch Man

Issue 50:

1 - Food Wars!
2 - Nisekoi
3 - World Trigger
4 - My Hero Academia

Issue 51:

1 - Nisekoi
2 - World Trigger
3 - Buddy Strike
4 - Black Clover

Issue 52:

1 - Nisekoi
2 - My Hero Academia
3 - Buddy Strike
4 - Black Clover

Issue 53:

1 - My Hero Academia
2 - World Trigger
3 - Nisekoi
4 - Buddy Strike
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I'm not going to tally up points, but I think it's safe to say my favorite series in Jump this year was Food Wars! by far (It was my #1 16 weeks in a row!), with World Trigger and My Hero Academia about tied for runner-up. But there really was a lot of good this year, and nearly every regular series got ranked in a survey at some point. The only ones that didn't were Bleach, Seraph, and the two Yu-Gi-Oh! manga, and the reasons why are pretty self-explanatory.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 04, 2015, 08:44:14 AM
I'm sure without looking it up my top three ranked were MHA, WT, and FW!, since they were really on a roll this year.

As for the rankings, I'm utterly puzzled as to what happened there. Especially with Samon at #7 above mainstays like Toriko, Gintama, Nisekoi,and Black Clover, not to mention up and comers like Straighten Up, and Mononofu, is straight out bizarre.

But Nisekoi also has really good volume sales, so I doubt this will have much effect on it. I only hope this was a fluke week for Mononofu and SU since they really don't need to be that low right now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 04, 2015, 09:43:52 AM
Nisekoi is also probably ending sooner than later, so it's not as worrisome for it to get low rankings as it would a series in the middle of it's story. But yeah, really hope SU! and Mononofu rebound. I don't want them to get cut short before they can meet their full potential like Gakkyu Hotei was.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 06, 2015, 10:16:06 AM
Food Wars is going to have an important announcement next week in WSJ. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2015-12-06/food-wars-gets-important-announcement-on-december-14/.96120)  My guess is that they'll finally announce a season 2 for the anime.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 07, 2015, 07:08:18 AM
Sounds good to me. Just cut down on the added ecchi elements like the back half of the last season and it should solve the show's only problem.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 07, 2015, 04:57:18 PM
The first chapter of Yu Yu Hakusho is as great as ever. It almost works well enough to be a one-shot of its own. I have to say that it's a great choice for a Jump Back, even if it is one of the best chapters in the issue.

I also like how much more natural Black Clover has been the last few chapters. Naturally unfolding action and drama suits it much more. Had he made the invasion take place after this material, it would have went over better, I think.

My rankings:

1. Yu Yu Hakusho
2. My Hero Academia
3. Food Wars!
4. Black Clover
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 07, 2015, 06:09:55 PM
So, YYH was this week's Jump Back? That's neat. Hopefully it inspires some readers to check out the series who have yet to experience the classic.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 07, 2015, 06:25:38 PM
Yep, it was the great first chapter. Also, the manga is on sale in digital bundles at the same time.

Much as some like to complain about Jump Backs, they are a great idea to revive interest in older series and give more exposure to underrated works.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on December 07, 2015, 10:55:03 PM
Really? Now that is cool. I love how the anime starts.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 08, 2015, 01:57:09 PM
Don't know how I missed this from Horikoshi. He drew this for last year's Jump Festa:

(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi166.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu100%2FJDesensitized%2FP9A7Aae_zpsixnyr1p1.jpg&hash=87d37e0f32d0683fc712e3cc9bbefc183fa5d4b9)

It's impressive how he kept his distinctive style while managing to capture the other series just as well.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 10, 2015, 08:33:54 AM
As expected, Food Wars has been confirmed for a second season! (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-12-10/food-wars-shokugeki-no-soma-anime-gets-2nd-season/.96320)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 10, 2015, 11:03:54 AM
Awesome!

Here's hoping they learned their lesson with the over the top ecchi in the early episodes and continue to go without it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 10, 2015, 11:25:06 AM
I recently caught up with Food Wars (the manga, I haven't seen the anime yet).

You know, for how much praise I've seen this series get from WSJ fans, I kind of just feel that it's decent but not great. I mean, everything up until the end of the Fall Election arc was pretty standard competition-based manga stuff. It had the usual tropes and mostly expected outcomes. I mean, it did all of that well enough to keep me interested in continuing, but not enough to give me any strong connection or emotional attachment to the characters.

Then we had the Stagiaire and Food Festival arcs, which to the series credit were a refreshing change of pace and a promising upturn in quality from the more formulaic fair of the first 100 or so chapters. I was starting to get on board at that point, but then we had a major twist come out of left field and I shit you not, I immediately got reminded of Histroy's Strongest Disciple Kenichi...

Spoiler
Seriously, the whole idea of Erina having a powerful grandfather who's her legal guardian and having an estranged father who is the bad guy and left several years ago, and then having the grandfather confide in the main character to help her on her way since he observes that she responds to him quite strongly in one way or another is literally the same plot that happens in HSDK, except with cooking instead of martial arts.
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To be fair, HSDK became a piece of garbage, whereas this manga was always much better than that. Still, even considering the more cartoony and over-the-top nature of this series (which really reminds me of Eyeshield 21, which is a good thing), that whole plot-line feels rather cheesy, to be honest. Of course, on the other hand, I can't say that I'm disinterested in seeing where the story goes from here. I'm still entertained by the manga on a base level, so in that regard it's fine. But I suppose that after hearing all of the hype and praise surrounding this manga, I find the story and characters to be rather lacking in substance compared to some of the other competition-based series that I'm a big fan of.

Spoiler
Like, for example, Soma is currently in the middle of a challenge with one of the Elite Ten, who have literally been built up since the beginning. This is the first time in the entire series that he's faced off against one of them, and it comes not too long after a period of growth that he just experienced after losing in the finals of the Fall Election. Also, a lot of stuff is on the line, here. I SHOULD feel a ton of weight to this scenario and be tensed up as to what the outcome will be. But, really, I'm somewhat intrigued by the scenario, but don't have any strong feelings one way or the other as to whether I want to see Soma overcome this or not. It all just somehow felt way too abrupt, and if he loses I won't get the sense of devastation that should come with a loss this big, while if he wins it'll feel a bit too easy for how skilled the Elite Ten are said to be given how Soma never even came close to losing his cool, so far, despite all of the odds being stacked against him, including the judges being dirty in the first place. It all just feels....fine. But not spectacular.
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Anyways, that's just my opinion on the series. I know that I'm in the minority, which is fine because everyone is entitled to their opinions, but basically this series comes off to me as mostly fun for what it is, but not memorable.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 10, 2015, 11:43:38 AM
Haha, I knew if you read it you would have picked up on that similarity to HSDK. Thankfully that is all they have in common.

I'm glad you enjoy the series, though I also agree that it is not the best thing currently running in Jump. Why I like it is that it is very consistent and enjoyable to read week after week with good writing and very enjoyable art and characters that don't make me want to break my head through a wall. I also like the fact that there are no power levels that prevent characters from being useful at certain times. Every week its a treat to read.

When I first starting watching/reading it I didn't expect it would consistently rank in my top 4 every week, but it continually manages it. I wouldn't consider it a favorite (yet) like My Hero Academia or World Trigger, though it never fails to entertain me with every new chapter.

I'm sure CX will go into a more in depth analysis of your impressions when he has time, but at least it's good to see you like it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 10, 2015, 11:57:07 AM
Like I said, my issues with it are just my minority opinion.

But yes, I do enjoy it, even with some of the cheese-factor. As I stated, I'm still interested to see where the story goes. I just found the huge turn in the plot to be really bizarre, even for this series. It could turn into something really interesting, but I must admit that I was actually really good with where the series was during the previous two arcs. Those were the biggest step in the right direction, IMO.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 10, 2015, 05:24:17 PM
This week's Jump rankings:

Shokugeki no Soma (Cover and Lead Color)
1 - My Hero Academia
2 - Black Clover
Hinomaru Zumou (CP)
3 - Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
4 - Assassination Classroom
Koroshiya Domino (One Shot, CP, 45p by Dainenpyou )
5 - World Trigger
6 - Haikyu!
7 - Samon the Summoner
8 - Mononofu
9 - The Disaster of PSI Kusuo Saiki
Buddy Strike (not ranked)
10 - Kochikame
11 - Gintama
12 - Nisekoi
13 - Bleach
14 - Toriko
Isobe Isobee


Wow, at that World Trigger jump. Also nice seeing Mononofu and Straighten Up back up again. Ouch for Gintama, Nisekoi, Bleach, and Toriko, though. I'm hoping something ends naturally soon because right now a long runner is going to get cut off before reaching its end when the next batch of new series comes out.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 11, 2015, 12:07:48 PM
Out of curiosity, for those of you who subscribe to VIZ's online WSJ, on what day of each week is new content usually released, and how much does it cost?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 11, 2015, 01:28:30 PM
It comes out around noon on Mondays give or take a few hours. It costs $0.99 for an issue, or $25 for a year subscription of 52 issues. You can also buy back issues for $0.99 if you feel like it. The content is an online magazine format just like the normal magazine where series are arranged fairly randomly and, unlike the volume releases, the color pages are kept.

So far they've been very good about translation and scan quality and are very quick to correct any errors when learning of the problem. I'm glad I signed up for it as the content to expense ratio is really high.

I do wish they would add a couple more series like a sports manga or two, but right now the series selection is pretty solid.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 11, 2015, 02:12:30 PM
That sounds like a pretty good deal. I'll definitely look into it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 11, 2015, 04:27:27 PM
Yeah,  the content provided by a WSJ subscription is definitely worth the cost, and despite not being caught on everything in the magazine, I certainly enjoy it.  Like Spark said, it would be cool if Viz would add some other series like Assasination Classroom, Buddy Strike, or Mononofu but the current selection is pretty good (with the obvious exceptions of Bleach and Seraph of the End).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 12, 2015, 02:56:00 PM
Just read the most recent chapter of Food Wars. This pretty much proves my point about the current scenario:

Spoiler
This outcome was utter bull-shit. There's no way that Souma should have won a match against an E10 member with a RIGGED judging panel on top of that, and not only did he do just that, but he did it way too easily. If he had some smart plan to sway the judges outside of just cooking a better dish, it might have worked, but as it stands it just feels like convenient writing for the sake of moving the story in a certain direction without taking the time to do it the right way. There was absolutely no investment to be had in this match because we all knew that one way or the other, Souma was not going to be permanently expelled even if he lost since obviously they'd find some loophole so that the story could continue. Him winning against Eizan isn't a bad writing decision in and of itself, but rather it's bad in the way that it was handled. This should feel like a huge achievement. This should be the equivalent of how you feel in Hajime no Ippo when Takamura defeats Bryan Hawk, or in Slam Dunk when Shouhoku finally makes it to the nationals. Souma just defeated a member of an elite organization that has been built up since the beginning, and it somehow comes off feeling like the easiest match that he's ever had in the series.
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I don't want to make it sound like I hate this series, because I don't. I like the first 100 chapters alright, and really enjoyed the last two arcs. But (and I can't believe that I'm sayings this because I usually tend to have the opposite problem with most other shonen series) this arc feels way too rushed, and could actually benefit from slowing it's pace down.

What worries me is that I've seen certain other Shonen series adopt this frantic nature out of nowhere to try and haphazardly speed up the plot, and not only is the writing weaker for it, but usually they lead to an abrupt and unsatisfying ending that is a letdown after all of the good build up from better previous arcs. I wouldn't want this series to end so soon since there's still a lot of potential good story-threads to follow, and ending it all of a sudden would really be a bummer after the quality was really starting the pick up in the last two arcs (IMO, at least). I know that the series is, if anything, more popular than ever, and with a second season confirmed its sales and ratings should only continue to increase, so it doesn't make any business sense to end it faster. However, the whole rushed nature of this arc just makes me feel like the author is trying to speed through the story at the expense of good character arcs and actually giving us time to invest in outcomes.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 14, 2015, 02:58:54 PM
I always thought Eizan was more talk than walk (like Soma did chapters ago) even though the other characters insisted he wasn't. But he was. He spent so much time mastering the business side that there is probably a giant gulf between him and everyone else on the council. Honestly, most everyone at the dorm, Hisako, the Aldini Bros. and many other characters are all probably leagues ahead of him in talent. If there is one fault with the recent arc it is that I never actually considered Eizan a threat in any way other than bureaucracy, and given how this arc ended I was only proven right. His business sense is the only thing he's exceptional at.

As for the rest of the chapters this week, here are my rankings:

World Trigger
Nisekoi
My Hero Academia
Yu Yu Haksuho

World Trigger brings Ashihara's fighting spirit out in a big way. The next arc has officially begun and the enemies are already ahead of the game. His hospital visit didn't keep him down at all. I hope he manages to fall back into his weekly schedule and is finally all healed up.

Nisekoi had two characters simply engaging in good chemistry and were quite enjoyable to watch. Nothing groundbreaking, but really well done.

This week's MHA let me down a bit by not actually showing anything of the forest. I was hoping there would be something to see to allow some characters to shine or explain why characters like Ida, Sero, Bakugo, Todoroki, or Midoriya, didn't use their skills to race ahead of everyone else. That they all made it to the end at the same time, and incredibly late at that, wasn't really touched on at all. Otherwise it was just a set up chapter to the real test coming next week, though a hint at how other people might not see heroes as great was a neat touch.

Yu Yu Hakusho's second chapter is a bit of a mess, stylistically. It jumps around a lot and, unlike the anime, I forgot that Koenma and Botan didn't tell Yusuke about his egg hatching into a beast if he did bad things. It was a bit of a weird decision, since they tell him when it matters anyway. Nonetheless, was still very enjoyable and clearly one of the best chapters this week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 14, 2015, 07:43:30 PM
Not really feeling Platinum End.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 14, 2015, 08:52:57 PM
Well that's disappointing. So far, PE feels like what Death Note would be if there was no actual entertainment value to be had. There's a good concept somewhere in the premise, but the main character is painfully boring, and the exposition is tedious without actually paying off (once again, Death Note was much better at this).

What the hell are you doing Ohba? You're capable of better than this!

The only thing up to standards so far is Obata's always excellent artwork.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on December 14, 2015, 02:58:54 PMI always thought Eizan was more talk than walk (like Soma did chapters ago) even though the other characters insisted he wasn't. But he was. He spent so much time mastering the business side that there is probably a giant gulf between him and everyone else on the council. Honestly, most everyone at the dorm, Hisako, the Aldini Bros. and many other characters are all probably leagues ahead of him in talent. If there is one fault with the recent arc it is that I never actually considered Eizan a threat in any way other than bureaucracy, and given how this arc ended I was only proven right. His business sense is the only thing he's exceptional at.

See, I have an inherent problem with this reasoning since the manga made it a point to throw it out the window. Rindou flat-out says that Eizan could rise a few ranks in the E10 if he focused a bit more on cooking, but that even as he is now he's more than qualified to hold his seat even with his cooking skills as they are.

Other E10 members also have business sides to them, as Kuga explained, but they have to be top-tier chefs to have those privileges in the first place.

To me it just seems like the author wants to make Soma seem to be on that level already be beating Eizan with ease, but the way that it happens just comes off as lazy writing, IMO.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 14, 2015, 09:08:53 PM
Yeah, I realize my explanation was hand-waved away by what Rindou said, but I still didn't buy it. It's mostly because Eizan has appeared many times before and not once had he ever actually done any cooking. Then he had a Shokugeki where he finally would have to cook and what does he do? Slimes his way out of it and wins by cheating.

I will give you that it's not one of the better parts of the series so far. I liked the fact that it was the dormitory as a whole that came together to win, but Eizan's defeat was pretty flat.

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 14, 2015, 08:52:57 PM
Well that's disappointing. So far, PE feels like what Death Note would be if there was no actual entertainment value to be had. There's a good concept somewhere in the premise, but the main character is painfully boring, and the exposition is tedious without actually paying off (once again, Death Note was much better at this).

What the hell are you doing Ohba? You're capable of better than this!

The only thing up to standards so far is Obata's always excellent artwork.
I actually think I found Light more sympathetic at the beginning of Death Note than any character here. Even if it was for only like half a chapter. But I mean, you were supposed to hate him. Not here. I kind of lost focus when he made his aunt kill herself and the first thing he thought about was how lucky he was that he wasn't the one to die. Like, what? Real relate-able character there, Ohba.

But yes, the art is really good when it isn't hampered by the questionable storytelling. The skyline in chapter 1 when he uses the wings to fly around is gorgeous.

Still, Platinum End is no Death Note or Bakuman. It's a surprising miss from a team that should be so much better and it's hard to believe it took so long to make when I've seen this exact plot done in another manga before. It doesn't even have the original concept of their first two series. This just isn't worth paying the price Viz is asking for.

I hope they pick it up again, but I somehow doubt it. I'm just stunned at how much of a miss this is.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 15, 2015, 06:07:39 PM
Speaking of Jump, a year's subscription is currently on sale for $19.99. The deal ends on the 31st of January.

I just extended my membership.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Pharass on December 16, 2015, 11:40:10 AM
Saw that Comixology had volume one of A Silent Voice for sale and having heard a lot of good things about it (both from here and elsewhere), decided to pick it up. It certainly lived up to my expectations, with believable and well-written characters and plenty of emotional sucker-punches. Great read and I'll definitely buy the next volume.

Edit: When I wrote this post I wasn't aware that the manga apparently finished its run last year, meaning that it doesn't really belong in this thread. My apologies.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 18, 2015, 08:46:36 AM
This week's Jump rankings:

Assassination Classroom (Cover, Lead CP)
1 - One Piece
2 - My Hero Academia
3 - Hinomaru Zumou
4- The Disaster of PSI Kusuo Saiki
5- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
Haikyuu!! (CP)
6 - Black Clover
7 - Gintama
Crematers (CP, One Shot)
8 - Samon the Summoner
9 - Food Wars! Shokugeki no Souma
10 - Mononofu
11 - Kochikame
Buddy Strike (Not Ranked)
12 - Bleach
13 - Toriko
14 - Nisekoi
Isobe Isobee Monogatari


Looks like fans aren't enjoying this arc of Food Wars, either. Hopefully now that the Eizan stuff has been dealt with he can go back to more creative stuff.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 18, 2015, 10:11:38 AM
If I'm not mistaken, aren't all WSJ rankings based on the results from 7 weeks earlier? If so, those results are for Food Wars chapter 141, rather than last week, so if fans didn't enjoy this arc, rankings would reflect that for at least the next 7 weeks.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 20, 2015, 12:16:52 AM
Jump Festa has announced a new D. Gray-man anime. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-12-20/d.gray-man-manga-gets-new-tv-anime-series-in-2016-with-new-cast/.96729)
I guess anime viewers will finally get to witness the growing amount of bullshit and nonsensical plot points.  :bleh:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 21, 2015, 08:53:11 AM
Gintama is officially nearing the end. The last arc starts next year. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/12/20/gintama-manga-may-be-enter-its-final-arc)

Looks like it might be quite a few series ending next year with Gintama, Toriko, Nisekoi, and Bleach all coming to a close.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 21, 2015, 11:33:34 AM
Bersek is going on hiatus again, but NBC Universal has green-lit a new anime adaption! (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-12-21/berserk-gets-new-anime-project-featuring-guts-as-black-swordsman/.96773)
Rumor is that it won't be a re-adaption of Golden Age this time.  Since this is being produced by a different company, I hope that the production quality will be better than Studio 4C's Golden Age Films, and its terrible CG scenes.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on December 21, 2015, 03:01:57 PM
I was just about to post this. Also, is there any Berserk anime worth watching besides the original series (which I still need to complete)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 21, 2015, 03:30:28 PM
Rankings this week:

My Hero Academia
World Trigger
Yu Yu Hakusho
Nisekoi


I gotta say, Gauche has got to be the most irritating character in Black Clover by far. What a total turd. On the other hand it was a pretty good set of chapters this week. Food Wars dealt with the ending to this arc, Bleach showed Ichigo again for the first time in forever, and Black Clover has been benefiting in the recent chapters by making you actually care about the characters not dying. Except Gauche. But that's the character's fault, not the writing. Oh, and Toriko just finished that ridiculously convoluted flashback which should be good for fans more clued in to what's going on than I am.

MHA looks to be pitting the villains against our newly trained heroes (4 against 40? Are they crazy? With those odds against them the villains better have a good plan.) and World Trigger's battle is heating up. YYH's chapter is the one where Kuwabara is taken over by Yusuke, but I gotta say that the anime did make this part feel far more vital than the manga did, but it's still a fun little chapter. Nisekoi apparently just let the cat out of the bag and now we know who Raku really likes which means this is probably the final part of the series we're entering.

Great issue this week.

Quote from: gunswordfist on December 21, 2015, 03:01:57 PM
I was just about to post this. Also, is there any Berserk anime worth watching besides the original series (which I still need to complete)
The only anime out there covers the Golden Age arc. This anime will be the first time anything else has been adapted, and then there are the movies with the awful and pointless CG. You might as well wait for this series to come out.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on December 21, 2015, 04:52:56 PM
I had no clue. I also was wondering if they were going to start at the beginning like HXH 2011 did. I'm lookin forward to this more since I can hopefully watch the original series and then this without missing much story.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 21, 2015, 06:29:33 PM
If they do start at the beginning of the manga, they'll probably just skip the Golden Age arc and go straight into the Conviction arc right after Black Swordsman.  Golden Age has already been adapted twice, and, even though it's the most popular part of the series, I honestly don't expect there to be another re-adaption of it for a while.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 29, 2015, 09:01:42 AM
This week's Jump rankings:

One Piece (Cover and Lead color pages)
1 - Assassination Classroom
2 - Haikyuu!!
Zenei no Archer (CP, One Shot)
3 - Hinomaru Zumou
4 - Samon the Summoner
My Hero Academia (CP)
5 - Toriko
6 - Mononofu
Black Clover (CP)
7 - Kochikame
8 - Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
9 - Food Wars! Shokugeki no Souma
10 - The Disaster of PSI Kusuo Saiki
11 - World Trigger
12 - Gintama
Buddy Strike (Not Ranked)
13 - Nisekoi
14 - Bleach
Isobe Isobee Monogatari


I'm completely stunned at Samon's success. Unless it improved 1000%, I really have no understanding as to how it has managed to outrank so many better series. On the other hand, it's nice to see the rankings shift around so much these days meaning there isn't a clear candidate for cancellation like there has been the last several times. With Nisekoi, Gintama, Toriko, and Bleach, nearing their end, maybe we won't have a cancellation for a while. That certainly would be nice if Jump could lax itself on finding something to cancel all the time.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 03, 2016, 04:55:37 PM
I recently caught back up with the manga for Baby Steps. The scans are WAY behind the Japanese releases (like 100+ chapters), and only 15 chapters came out in English this year in total.

Anyways, this is a series that I was unfairly harsh to way back when the anime started and I gave it an overly negative review based on the first episode for the seasonal anime clusterfuck (I was also a bit unfair to Ace of the Diamond as well, but to be fair that one gets pretty tiring eventually, anyways). I was kind of going through a snobbish phase with sports manga/anime and judging them for what they didn't do rather than how they appeal to their target demographic. I have long since grown past that, though.

This series is no masterpiece by any means, but I do admire how it is rather cleverly written to avoid many tropes that so many other shonen sports series follow, especially when it comes to winning. Even in manga that I enjoy like Hajime no Ippo and Food Wars, the MCs rarely lose anything major. In Baby Steps, wins never come easy and each match is a huge struggle. After 250+ chapters, Maruo still hasn't overcome any of his main rivals or even won any major tournaments. He has lost several big matches, even though he's also defeated several other high-ranked opponents. What keeps it interesting despite all of this is how the mangaka clearly portrays his growth in skill and confidence over time. While it's harshly realistic that after only two years of experience he wouldn't outdo the best players of his generation who have played their whole lives, it's still really rewarding to see stuff like him go from being crushed by the No. 1 ranked player in the Jr. Division to then playing an extremely close match against him a year later (in the manga's time-line) and gain his acknowledgment.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on January 03, 2016, 06:15:24 PM
Yesterday, I finally caught up with the Detective Conan!   The Rum Arc has been quite interesting so far.  While there are still no leads on Rum's identity, there have been some major hints as to who Mary is and her connection to Sera and Conan.  Considering how long the Bourbon arc was, I don't expect this storyline to end anytime soon, but I'm certainly looking forward to how it develops further.   :)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 04, 2016, 06:19:45 PM
First issue of the new year! Here are my rankings!

My Hero Academia
World Trigger
Yu Yu Hakusho
Black Clover

MHA has a tendency for doing things out of nowhere while making complete sense and this is one of them. Last chapter I mentioned that a handful of villains against over twenty opponents was a bad idea and then right away we learn here that there are actually TEN villains. Not only that, they picked a quite opportune time to strike. Without any back up, the heroes are already at a distinct disadvantage. World Trigger has just gone all out on these fights and we still don't even know what the invaders want. I hope Ashihara is feeling better now that he's out of the hospital and starting a fresh arc that the series continues on this path. YYH's early chapters have always been very cute. If it were up to me, the cries for a new anime adaption would be answered with an OVA of these early chapters instead. Black Clover's current little arc has been a big step up from the recent arc and this chapter has been focusing on putting context into an unlikable character which gives me hope that Tabata has learned a lot about characterization since this has come naturally to this arc.

Other chapters were pretty good except Bleach which once again has another fight that isn't over. I also still have no idea what is going on in Toriko but I thought he was done with the flashbacks and narration. Apparently not. Shame it'll be off again next week but at least a bonus issue with the monthly manga should be a nice filler for the next issue.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 05, 2016, 09:09:09 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #5-6 (January 4th, 2016):

One Piece (Lead CP)
1- Assassination Classroom
2- Haikyu!!
Vanguard of Archer (One-Shot, Center Color, 49 p.)
3- Hinomaru Sumo
4- Samon the Summoner
My Hero Academia (Center Color)
5- Toriko
6- Mononofu
Black Clover (Center Color)
7- Kochikame
8- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
9- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
10- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
11- World Trigger
12- Gintama
Buddy Strike (Not ranked)
13- Nisekoi
14- Bleach
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Pharass on January 08, 2016, 07:38:56 AM
Recently, I made the decision to drop the following titles that I had fallen behind on and had not read for some time :

Assassination Classroom
Toriko
Magi: The Labyrinth of Magic

Despite possessing some decent characters and story-arcs, neither A.C. nor Toriko managed to sustain my interest in the longer run. As for Magi, my interest in it waned considerably after
Spoiler
Gyokuen was killed off
[close]
and besides, after the Magnostadt arc, I kind of felt that I had seen the best that this manga had to offer.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 08, 2016, 08:44:43 AM
I agree on AC and Magi (though the latter I'll probably still come back to since apparently it's in its final arc). I really tried to get into AC, but the characters and style of humor just aren't my cup of tea. And I feel pretty much the same way as Pharass about Magi. I feel like it started to lose a lot of momentum after the Magnostadt arc.

I haven't read any of Toriko, and only watched a few episodes of the anime, so I don't currently have an opinion on it one way or the other.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 08, 2016, 09:50:50 AM
I have absolutely no idea what's going on right now in Toriko so I can only imagine what long time fans must be thinking. But it's also apparently near the end anyway.

As for Magi, I always liked it more when it was about adventure and not as much when it fell back on politics and war. We haven't really had a pure adventure fantasy series in a while that was as good as Magi at its best, but for some reason the story kept veering back into war over and over again and it just wasn't as interesting as the exploration, the battles with pirates and bandits and the like, the dungeons, and the fights against the bad guys. Of course, that might just be me.

AC, I tried to get into several times. I just couldn't. It's not my thing at all.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 08, 2016, 11:25:13 AM
Honestly, I actually liked the politics and war in Magnostadt better than the adventure aspects of the series. I mean, I love adventure stories, but the ones in Magi always came off to me as good, but not memorable like early Dragon Ball or One Piece.

That said, the way politics and war was handled after that arc was quite frankly rather absurd, and beyond that surprisingly boring, IMO.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on January 08, 2016, 12:57:35 PM
While it certainly had its problems early on, I actually really enjoyed the Kou Empire Arc.  I'd go as far to say that I enjoyed the latter half of the arc even more than I did Magnostadt.

I haven't read too much of the AC manga (I'm planning to catch up since its ending soon), but I watched the first season of the anime and loved it.  I can certainly understand people not liking it if they can't get into the humor, though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 11, 2016, 01:52:20 PM
This week's issue consisted of only four series, so I'll list the way I ranked them here.

Muhyo & Roji's Bureau of Supernatural Investigation
One Punch Man
Blue Exorcist
Seraph of the End

M&R is a series I've never actually read before and I quite enjoyed reading the first chapter. One Punch Man was longer than the last four chapters put together and was its usual typical goodness. Blue Exorcist, I might still be lost in, but it was an enjoyable read. Seraph was as poorly written as ever though apparently the anime was just as stupid and everyone is complaining about it, which I find utterly hilarious. And what a moronic ending: "Here's a random three month time skip after our characters got away some how and now we're ending the chapter." It's a mess that makes no sense at all.

Well, it was a free issue, so I can't complain, but it was a pretty good read anyway.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 13, 2016, 11:37:06 AM
I'm not sure if anyone's been reading it, but Saint Seiya's official sequel, Next Dimension, is entering its "current season's" final arc now. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-01-13/saint-seiya-next-dimension-manga-new-season-enters-final-arc/.97438)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 14, 2016, 01:09:57 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #7 (January 18th, 2016):

Haikyu!! (Cover, Lead CP)
One Piece (Not ranked. Was absent in issue #51)
1- Black Clover
Hinomaru Sumo (Center Color)
2- Assassination Classroom
3- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club (23 p.)
Food Fighter Tabelu (Special Chapter, Center Color, 24 p.)
4- My Hero Academia
5- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
Samon the Summoner (Center Color, 24 p.)
6- Gintama
7- Toriko
8- World Trigger
9- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
10- Mononofu
11- Bleach
12- Nisekoi
13- Kochikame
14- Buddy Strike (First ranking)
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-

Crap. I wanted Buddy Strike to do better. It probably won't get axed on the first go around, but I really hope it can do better. The first few chapters were real well done. I think this is the first time Black Clover has hit #1, though. Good for it. I'm hoping it was for the current arc we're in because it has been much better than the invasion mini-arc.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on January 16, 2016, 05:04:02 AM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on January 13, 2016, 11:37:06 AM
I'm not sure if anyone's been reading it, but Saint Seiya's official sequel, Next Dimension, is entering its "current season's" final arc now. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-01-13/saint-seiya-next-dimension-manga-new-season-enters-final-arc/.97438)
I wonder how good this manga is.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 18, 2016, 03:03:49 PM
That was a great issue this week. Every series was a pretty good read and several had surprising twists. So it might make my ranking look strange.

My Hero Academia
World Trigger
Food Wars!
Black Clover

Wow, a lot happened in this chapter of MHA. The villain attack has lead just about everyone off in different directions and Midoriya is about to fight a villain on his own with no help on the way. On top of it we get to see some new powers as well as a few good beats of comedy. MHA at its best. I really can't wait to see what happens next week.

World Trigger deals in these kinds of multi-tiered battles a lot, but its very rare that we get to see all the top attackers together in a battle. Not to mention we still don't know what Jin is up to and what the goal of the enemy's attack is. Hopefully Ashihara is feeling much better and can continue to keep up his schedule because WT is a great series for weekly reads. I also have a feeling this battle is going to have major repercussions for the series eve if the good guys win.

Food Wars was a chapter of reveals, but they were good reveals. Now that the cat is out of the bag for Erina that she knows who Soma's father is, things should be getting more interesting.

Black Clover has just been really good at what it does during this small arc. It's been action packed, but its been character focused as well, making it a solid read every week. This chapter has kept up its pleasant streak.

I'm disappointed I can only rank 4 because One Punch Man deserved a ranking too, but I just enjoyed the other 4 slightly more. Great week!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 18, 2016, 06:43:17 PM
Azami fits under the "please notice me, senpai" trope. It is now impossible for me to take him seriously, anymore....

Also, I hope the reveal isn't a fake-out here. People have pointed out how Erina's lack of a distinct reaction may indicate that she didn't completely here what Soma said, and it makes no sense for the author to keep dragging out that plot point after sitting on it for 100+ chapters already.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 18, 2016, 06:53:50 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 18, 2016, 06:43:17 PM
Azami fits under the "please notice me, senpai" trope. It is now impossible for me to take him seriously, anymore....

Also, I hope the reveal isn't a fake-out here. People have pointed out how Erina's lack of a distinct reaction may indicate that she didn't completely here what Soma said, and it makes no sense for the author to keep dragging out that plot point after sitting on it for 100+ chapters already.
I'm think this is going to be a way to bring his dad in to the story in a big way. But Erina really should know by now. It's a secret not really worth hiding since all it does is prevent character development which Food Wars doesn't usually like to prevent except in her case. But since she's been going through a lot this arc I do hope it is for real now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 18, 2016, 07:31:35 PM
Others have pointed out a valid criticism for this reveal, though. Erina still has yet to "openly" acknowledge and show respect to Soma as a chef. If she develops enough to do that after the reveal, then there's a good chance that one could argue that she learns to respect and accept Soma's way of cooking just based on who his father is, rather than learning to respect him as a worthy cook based on his own merits. If not handled properly, it could cheapen her character development. If she still initially lacks acknowledgement of Soma after finding out this information, and it just serves as a catalyst to pay more attention to him and gradually learn to accept his way of cooking, then her character development can come off as much more natural.

On another note, I'm almost caught up with or finished with (the Wikipedia page still says it's ongoing, but it's also on its final volume, so it's pretty much done at this point) Wolfsmund. It has definitely been an interesting read. Unlike most manga from the Historical Europe genre, this story is decidedly small in scale and doesn't attempt to be grandiose in its narrative, but there's certainly nothing inherently wrong with wanting to tell smaller stories (in fact, some of the best stories ever told are short enough to be finished within an hour or less). However, this series does feel awkward for the first third, with its lack of focus on any particular plot-line, and feels more like an anthology of interconnected short stories that don't all add up to something. When it gets past chapter 10, though, it finds some footing and becomes a fairly engaging read. That said, this is one of those manga that will piss you off if you hate to see good guys get trampled on over and over again before something finally goes their way. It's also completely unrestrained when it comes to gratuitous scenes of sex and/or violence, but it's hardly the worst thing that I've seen from the comic book medium, in that regard.

If nothing else, it's an interesting experimental piece for a short story. If the whole thing had played out like the first several chapters, then I'd probably question whether I wasted my time with it or not, but given how it has turned out up to this point, I can at least call it a worthwhile way to pass some time by. It's definitely not for everyone, though. I would be interested in checking out past or future works by this mangaka, though, to see if he can do better than this. There's definitely some potential based on what I read.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 22, 2016, 11:32:48 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #8 (January 25th, 2016):
Gintama (Cover, Lead CP, 12th Anniversary)
1- One Piece
2- Assassination Classroom
Black Clover (Center Color, 24 p.)
3- Haikyu!!
4- My Hero Academia
Renai Haitatsu Tatsujin Posuo (One-Shot, Center Color, 35 p.)
5- Mononofu
6- Toriko
7- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
8- Hinomaru Sumo
9- Samon the Summoner
10- Bleach
Ano Musume wa Yariman (Special Chapter, 15 p.) (Original series published in Jump+)
11- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
12- Kochikame
13- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
World Trigger (Not ranked. Was absent in issue #52)
14- Nisekoi
15- Buddy Strike
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-


Not looking good for Buddy Strike.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 22, 2016, 03:13:59 PM
It looks like Japan agrees with me that the Eizan arc of Food Wars was shit (the ranking revealed this week is for chapter 144 since all rankings are for chapters released 7 weeks earlier).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 25, 2016, 12:36:50 PM
My rankings for this week:

My Hero Academia
World Trigger
Food Wars!
Muhyo & Roji's Bureau of Supernatural Investigation

MHA is back in action mode and already bringing in intrigue such as what they want with Bakugo and if Midoriya can even survive what he's about to attempt. I've just been pleased with MHA for such a long time that I can't remember the last time not enjoying a chapter. I can't wait until next week already.

The invasion in World Trigger continues but we still don't know what Hyuse is up to or what Jin is off doing. Then there's the strike team fighting on the ropes against the ace attackers and the fact that we still don't know where the main characters are and it just keeps being a blast to read every week. Ashihara seems to be doing better, health-wise, due to his author comments, so here's hoping he won't need to take any more chapters off. This arc needs to keep the pace going.

Thankfully, Food Wars! did not cop out with the last chapter's reveal and has basically drawn a line in the sand between characters. It looks likes Shokugeki battles are back on again in an honest capacity though it could really go anywhere at this point. Definitely eager to see Soma's dad again to learn a bit more about why this is happening but all in all it was a good one.

Muhyo & Roji really just surprised me with another fun chapter of ghost busting, but with a few wrinkles from the last chapter that left me intrigued as to where it is going. It's nice to finally read a Jump Back of a series I've never read before because it is a lot like reading a brand new series.

All in all, another good issue. I'm sort of understanding One Piece since this is a brand new arc but Toriko and Bleach are still basically off the table for me. Especially Bleach. So is Uryu a bad guy or a good guy? I have no idea what is going on in Bleach at all. Otherwise I quite enjoyed every other series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on January 25, 2016, 05:08:51 PM
It's a real shame that Buddy Strike hasn't been doing well in the rankings.  It looks like KAITO can't catch a break even with a baseball manga.  :(

Bleach has been so boring to me as of late that I can't even bring myself to complain about its terrible plot developments.  I really wish Kubo would just end it already.  It's a waste of space in Jump and its not popular in there anymore either. 

The new One Piece arc has been pretty good so far.  I'm interested to see more of Sanji's backstory. 

Aside from the WSJ series that I'm up to date on, I've been keeping up with Magi, JoJolion, Detective Conan, and The Seven Deadly Sins, all of which have been great recently (especially JoJolion).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 25, 2016, 05:33:05 PM
Need to play some catch-up on MHA, and I'm still way behind on JoJo's.

As VLord said, One Piece has been picking up in quality with the recent arc, so there's that.

I officially dropped Nisekoi after reading a few volumes. It's definitely the kind of cliche harem rom-com that I simply cannot stand. I have no idea why it's so popular.

Food Wars is showing some good potential to pick back up again, but these last few chapters have been nothing but set-up. I'd like to see the story get the actual "food war" started between PSD and Central by now, and preferably give a few other characters besides Soma a chance to shine again. In particular, Takumi is long overdue for a comeback after suffering his last humiliating defeat quite a while ago. It'd be nice to see Satoshi in a match as well, now that he's officially been removed from the E10 Council.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on January 25, 2016, 06:57:42 PM
I'm surprised that everyone's backstory hasn't been explored to death with how long One Piece has been running.  :D
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 25, 2016, 07:09:25 PM
Well, we do get backstories for all of the Straw Hat crew. However, you learn more tidbits here and there about each of them that weren't touched upon in their initial arcs (and Luffy doesn't get his own backstory told until after the Marineford arc, despite being the main character of the series), and in addition to that they each have an extended backstory of stuff that we didn't see from the story's two-year time-skip.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 26, 2016, 06:04:47 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 25, 2016, 05:33:05 PMI officially dropped Nisekoi after reading a few volumes. It's definitely the kind of cliche harem rom-com that I simply cannot stand. I have no idea why it's so popular.
It spends most of its time not being funny and being very cliche in the worst ways. I've enjoyed the most recent stuff because he's been ending character arcs and heading for the ending which is about what I usually enjoy from these sorts of things.

He is not as well known for, but is more well liked for, Double Arts. A battle manga with an interesting twist that was canceled much too early before reaching its potential. That was canceled, but Nisekoi (an inferior series in every respect) has been a best seller that has earned him much fame. Why it is as popular as it is really is a mystery to me.

Komi has talent, but he doesn't ever really get rewarded for it when he shows it off. Case in point, the recent Marika arc which pushed her forward, had some good fight scenes, and was well written, and had a really good end for a certain character. Probably some of the best writing the series has legitimately had. Guess what? The series has been ranking dead last since then.

It's just strange.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 26, 2016, 06:43:23 PM
I think that I'd be more interested if there was more to Raku as a character than just "he's nice," and if it focused a bit more on being a good slice-of-life story as opposed to a bunch of cliche romcom antics. Or, if it is going to be a romcom, it could take a page out of OHSHC and be clever about how it subverts your expectations by turning various tropes on their head, as well as creating interesting situations for each character that don't always just involve the main lead.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 29, 2016, 10:04:20 AM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 22, 2016, 03:13:59 PM
It looks like Japan agrees with me that the Eizan arc of Food Wars was shit (the ranking revealed this week is for chapter 144 since all rankings are for chapters released 7 weeks earlier).
Here's where it gets weird.

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #9 (February 1st, 2016):
My Hero Academia (Cover, Lead CP)
1- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
2- One Piece
Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club (Center Color)
3- Assassination Classroom
4- Haikyu!!
Tsuuten-gai Scrap (One-Shot, Center Color, 47 p.)
5- Mononofu
6- Hinomaru Sumo
7- Nisekoi
8- Black Clover
9- Samon the Summoner
10- World Trigger
11- Toriko
12- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
13- Gintama
14- Kochikame
15- Bleach
16- Buddy Strike
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-

I think Food Wars, like World Trigger and Gintama, are too unpredictable in the rankings to nail down. They fall all over the map on almost every ranking. When either three eventually end they will most likely be due to the story wrapping up and not due to the rankings.

In other news, Viz really should consider running Straighten Up, Mononofu, or (ugh) Samon in the magazine. They're clearly not going anywhere and since several series are winding down, they should get a jump on something new. They can't hope for a surprise out of the box hit like Black Clover starting any time soon.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on January 29, 2016, 10:02:16 PM
From its jump start and small amount of translated scans, I've really liked what I've seen of Mononofu.  I haven't read any of Straighten Up but I've been hearing very good things about it.  I think the main reason that Viz has avoided putting them in Jump is that they aren't action series or from a well known writer/author like Gakkyu Hotei was.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 31, 2016, 09:50:20 AM
I caught up with Straighten Up. It's pretty decent. It kind of reminds of Baby Steps wherein the main character (or couple, in this case) doesn't progress very fast and is not particularly that talented, but makes incremental improvements in small strides that eventually add up. Though, since it's currently only 30 chapters in, the main pair has yet to accomplish anything of note.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on January 31, 2016, 12:14:39 PM
Two new Jump series are starting in February. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-01-31/weekly-shonen-jump-launches-2-new-series-in-february/.98081) 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 01, 2016, 09:49:41 AM
Wonder what's being canceled, then. Buddy Strike is too early and nothing else is consistently ranking low.

EDIT: A tease at what they look like. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2016-01-31/shonen-jump-posts-preview-images-of-2-new-february-manga/.98187)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on February 01, 2016, 11:52:40 AM
The only likely candidate is Buddy Strike, so they may very well end it this early or move it temporarily to Jump+ to have KAITO finish it off.  Aside from Assassination Classroom (which will probably end in early to mid March), no other series right now is doing particularly bad or ending in the next few months.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 01, 2016, 01:38:43 PM
Midoriya and Metal Bat showing what I like so much about shonen. Which probably gives away my rankings.

My Hero Academia
One Punch Man
World Trigger
Food Wars

MHA and OPM both contain protagonists at the end of their rope and fighting back with all they have. In the process showing why they are my favorite characters for their respective series. World Trigger continues with the invasion, though I'm getting to the point that I want to see the main three again. Food Wars was mostly exposition, but I enjoyed it anyway. But seriously, this issue was all about MHA and OPM. Excellent stuff and I'm anticipating what's to come next.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on February 01, 2016, 11:36:34 PM
The ERASED manga is ending in March. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-02-02/boku-dake-ga-inai-machi-erased-manga-ends-in-march/.98204)  No real surprise since the anime was stated to be adapting the entire manga.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on February 04, 2016, 06:55:32 AM
Buddy Strike is ending in this coming issue of Jump. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-02-04/cross-manage-kaito-ends-buddy-strike-manga-in-shonen-jump/.98319)

In other news, the new Berserk anime project has been confirmed to be a TV anime and it will premiere in July. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-02-04/new-berserk-anime-is-tv-series-that-premieres-in-july/.98320)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 04, 2016, 09:26:36 AM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on February 04, 2016, 06:55:32 AM
Buddy Strike is ending in this coming issue of Jump. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-02-04/cross-manage-kaito-ends-buddy-strike-manga-in-shonen-jump/.98319)
One volume. Brutal. I think he should have chosen another sport other than Baseball. It's pretty much the most saturated sport in manga right now.

But that's only one series. They still have to cancel another one since they're putting in two series. Whatever they cut next will be a problem for many fans.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on February 04, 2016, 11:21:08 AM
Well, Assassination Classroom is probably going to end next month, so I don't think they are going to cancel anything else for the time being. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 04, 2016, 03:05:04 PM
Actually it turns out that Best Blue was never actually replaced when it ended, only being replaced with one-shots. That's probably what it'll go back to being once AC ends.

Anyway, here are the rankings for this week:

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #10 (February 8th, 2016):
Yuna of Yuragi Manor (Cover, Lead CP, New Series, 54 p.)
1- Haikyu!!
2- One Piece
Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma (Center Color)
World Trigger (Not ranked. Was absent in issue #1)
3- Assassination Classroom
4- My Hero Academia
Mononofu (Center Color)
5- Samon the Summoner
6- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
Hinomaru Sumo (Center Color)
7- Black Clover
8- Nisekoi
9- Toriko
10- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
11- Kochikame
12- Bleach
13- Gintama
14- Buddy Strike (END)
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-

Only thing left to wonder is if either of these two new series are going to last.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on February 04, 2016, 03:58:34 PM
Apparently, Viz won't be doing a Jump Start for Yuna of Yuragi Manor due to ecchi content, so I guess we'll only be getting Blade of Demon Destruction over here.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on February 04, 2016, 04:06:55 PM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on February 04, 2016, 06:55:32 AM
Buddy Strike is ending in this coming issue of Jump. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-02-04/cross-manage-kaito-ends-buddy-strike-manga-in-shonen-jump/.98319)

In other news, the new Berserk anime project has been confirmed to be a TV anime and it will premiere in July. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-02-04/new-berserk-anime-is-tv-series-that-premieres-in-july/.98320)
OVERLOAD!? OVERLOAD?! I am hearing far too much good animation news in/for this young year! So much to watch...
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on February 04, 2016, 06:34:52 PM
On a whim, I decided to catch up with Akame ga Kill.  While the series on a whole is pretty meh, and the introduction to Wild Hunt is godawful, the manga has a number of entertaining moments and action sequences.  I'll probably stick with it since it's only a monthly series, and it seems to be on its final arc.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 08, 2016, 03:11:02 PM
This week was pretty easy to rank.

My Hero Academia
World Trigger
Black Clover
Hikaru no Go


My Hero Academia is, oddly enough, much like this week's Seraph of the End except better written. For one, action is still happening as important revelations are made and it feels like motion is being made instead of treading water. On the other hand, Seraph's end of chapter is the EXACT same scene from the end of the last one. Exposition city. MHA shows that even after that crazy fight, there is still much more to do. Already can't wait until next week.

World Trigger appears to be nearing the end of this mini-invasion as one of the enemies has fallen but no one on the other team appears very worried. I have a feeling Ashihara is eager to get to the next revelation soon.

Black Clover benefits from doing what it didn't used to do. Having development of ideas during action and not as exposition on the side. I also find that Tabata is pretty good at humor which a lot of other shonen mangaka are simply not. The manga continues being a pleasant read every week even if it's not a favorite of mine.

Hikaru no Go had a pretty good first chapter, all things considered. However I might feel about where it eventually ended up aside, it is a solid beginning to a series that did a lot right.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on February 09, 2016, 11:51:21 AM
A trailer has been released for the Mob Psycho 100 anime. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F8g3TuKsQHs)

Man, this is looking pretty good.   ;D
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on February 09, 2016, 03:41:53 PM
Looks crazy. :o
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 09, 2016, 06:07:27 PM
Bones stuff always looks so good. I'm guessing this will be a straightforward adaption.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on February 09, 2016, 10:13:10 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on February 09, 2016, 03:41:53 PM
Looks crazy. :o
Well, it is from the creator of OPM so that's to be expected.  :D

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on February 10, 2016, 12:34:05 AM
 :D
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 11, 2016, 11:11:03 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #11 (February 15th, 2016):
Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction (Cover, Lead CP, New Series, 54 p.)
1- Assassination Classroom
One Piece (Not ranked. Was absent in issue #2)
Yuna of Yuragi Manor (Center Color, 25 p.)
2- Haikyu!!
3- Black Clover
Samon the Summoner (Center Color)
4- Hinomaru Sumo
5- My Hero Academia
Nisekoi (Center Color)
6- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
7- Toriko
8- Mononofu
9- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
10- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
11- Kochikame
12- Gintama
13- World Trigger
14- Bleach
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-

No surprises this week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on February 14, 2016, 10:27:43 PM
Assassination Classroom has been confirmed to be reaching its climax. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-02-14/assassination-classroom-manga-approaches-climax-of-final-mission/.98545)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 15, 2016, 07:22:59 PM
Kimetsu no Yaiba (Blade of Demon Destruction)
My Hero Academia
World Trigger
Black Clover

So here's the thing with Kimetsu no Yaiba. It wasn't fast paced. It wasn't highly original. It wasn't a typical Jump series. It was also engaging the whole way. It wasn't gory yet tastefully used the right amount of blood and violence to set the right tone. Not to mention that the single action scene was more interesting than most battle manga battles are. Before I read it, I was wondering what to expect, and didn't see this coming. I don't see this being popular. I don't see Viz running it in the magazine. I'm not even sure if it can outrank anything else in the magazine. But it was good, and it is something I would absolutely read every week. There's a lot of potential, and I hope it gets to see it. Very surprising for a first chapter.

MHA has the big battle getting real out of hand. Everyone knows they're after Bakugo (Well, actually since Midoriya used his nickname, only a handful of people know) which means he and Todoroki now have their hands full. Tetsutetsu looks like he might have been shot, Eijirou looks like he wants to do something, but then there's this mess with Tokoyami and Shoji... Man, every week it just leaves me with wanting to read more.

The battle in World Trigger is hitting its climax, making me wonder just what these invaders really want. Jin said there are only a few minutes left, and most of the invaders were done, so unless the enemies have an ace up their sleeve they're pretty much cooked. But then, why would they invade Border if they knew they would get so overwhelmed? There's gotta be more to it than this.

Not sure what it is about the comedic moments in Black Clover, but Tabata's really good at them. It seems like he's getting better as a whole, which is nice, but he does have some good comedic timing in him. It's still not anything great, but it is enjoyable read. It only outranked Food Wars this week because nothing really happened in Food Wars except set up.

On the other hand, I gotta say everyone in Toriko being okay with Neo committing mass genocide because he's hungry is more than a little odd. Then again, I just don't get Toriko at all.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 16, 2016, 05:52:10 PM
Oh, I found this in the comments for the issue. For you One Piece and My Hero Academia fans:

Spoiler
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F19AsPcy.jpg&hash=2f6bb1d5b40feac98304d3e7aa0407f67b93561c)
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Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 16, 2016, 07:22:53 PM
Ha! That's awesome!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 18, 2016, 05:20:18 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #11 (February 22nd, 2016):
Assassination Classroom (Cover, Lead CP, Ending in 5 chapters Announcement)
1- My Hero Academia
2- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction (Center Color, 25 p.)
3- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
4- Hinomaru Sumo (23 p.)
Haikyu!! (Center Color)
5- World Trigger
Yuna of Yuragi Manor (Not ranked, 23 p.)
Black Clover (Center Color)
6- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club (27 p.)
7- Samon the Summoner
8- Mononofu
Kochikame (Center Color)
9- Nisekoi
10- Gintama
11- Toriko
12- Bleach
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-
One Piece (Absent)

Like I said, Food Wars and World Trigger have no consistency at all.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 22, 2016, 06:31:31 PM
This week:

Kimetsu no Yaiba
My Hero Academia
World Trigger
One-Punch Man

KnY wasn't the best chapter this week, but I do want to see where this is going so I voted it at the top. It does have some potential about it. MHA and WT were typical greatness, and OPM suffered for being short again. It was an easy top 4 for me.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 25, 2016, 05:26:25 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #13 (February 29th, 2016):
One Piece (Cover, Lead CP)
1- Haikyu!!
2- My Hero Academia
Assassination Classroom (Center Color)
3- Black Clover
4- Samon the Summoner
5- Gintama
Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma (Center Color)
6- Mononofu
Yuna of Yuragi Manor (Not ranked)
7- Toriko
8- Nisekoi
Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction (23 p., not ranked)
9- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
10- Hinomaru Sumo (23 p.)
11- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
12- Kochikame
13- World Trigger
14- Bleach
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-

I think that might be the lowest Hinomaru Sumo has been in ages. Not that I know anything about it, though. Apparently it's not a high seller.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on February 25, 2016, 07:43:05 PM
Straighten Up is pretty low this week too.  I've heard pretty good things about Hinomaru Sumo.  I think that big reason as to why it has yet to become a higher seller for Jump is that it still doesn't have an anime.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 27, 2016, 11:17:50 AM
So, recently I checked out a relatively new manga which started serializing last year. The story is about a spunky, hyper-active ninja who is looked down on by everyone but wants to become the next Hokage and prove himself despite all of that. He is also an idealist and has a rivalry with a dark-haired kid who is seen as extremely talented by everyone.

It's called Black Clover.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on February 28, 2016, 10:05:56 AM
Food Wars Season 2 will be airing in the summer season. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/02/28/shokugeki-no-soma-serves-up-2nd-season-in-summer-of-2016)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Markness on February 28, 2016, 04:05:07 PM
Anyone keeping up with Nanatsu no Taizai? The current arc has been awesome on so many levels! Nakaba Suzuki is the king of modern shounen manga, IMO. He mixes action and creativity pretty equally and seems to have unlimited inspiration when it comes to making new characters.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on February 28, 2016, 07:04:37 PM
I've been continuing to keep up with and have been really enjoying the current arc.  The introduction of Escanor as well some of the recent plot developments have made me really interested in how the remainder of the arc will play out.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on February 28, 2016, 07:05:40 PM
On another note, CX and I came across this retrospective on Weekly Shonen Jump from its inception to 2014. (http://landofobscusion.blogspot.com/2016/01/an-introduction-to-ages-of-jump.html)  It was very interesting and I highly recommend giving it a read.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on February 28, 2016, 10:06:30 PM
^ :thumbup:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 28, 2016, 10:20:34 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 27, 2016, 11:17:50 AM
So, recently I checked out a relatively new manga which started serializing last year. The story is about a spunky, hyper-active ninja who is looked down on by everyone but wants to become the next Hokage and prove himself despite all of that. He is also an idealist and has a rivalry with a dark-haired kid who is seen as extremely talented by everyone.

It's called Black Clover.
That's why it took me so long to warm up to it. I still don't think it's great now, but it is compelling enough for a weekly read.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 28, 2016, 10:33:15 PM
Admittedly, it's not a bad series (yet), but I also just can't deny the comparisons that many people are making. There's reusing common genre tropes, and then there's carbon-copying entire elements of a series. To be fair, Black Clover's quality is equivalent to that of early Naruto. Not by any means great or all that memorable, but fairly entertaining for what it is. Let's just hope that it doesn't follow in Naruto's footsteps all the way through, for obvious reasons.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 28, 2016, 10:37:38 PM
Yeah, it's basically Naruto with a better sense of humor. Though so far it hasn't gone off the rails yet and Tabata seems to be getting better at writing as he goes so I hope it remains at least a pleasant weekly read.

Quote from: VLordGTZ on February 28, 2016, 07:05:40 PM
On another note, CX and I came across this retrospective on Weekly Shonen Jump from its inception to 2014. (http://landofobscusion.blogspot.com/2016/01/an-introduction-to-ages-of-jump.html)  It was very interesting and I highly recommend giving it a read.
I forgot how much good stuff came out in the Golden Age. The late-90s would have had to suffer in comparison. Though I'm still not a fan of the late-00s as a whole. It's only in recent years have their been a greater number of series that interest me.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Markness on February 28, 2016, 11:36:42 PM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on February 28, 2016, 07:04:37 PM
I've been continuing to keep up with and have been really enjoying the current arc.  The introduction of Escanor as well some of the recent plot developments have made me really interested in how the remainder of the arc will play out.

Yeah, Escanor's fight with Galan was pretty cool even if it was brief. It played out like a turn based RPG but considering the setting, it fit perfectly.

I remember thinking Dolor would be a monstruous brute but he turned out to be rather intelligent. I, along with many others, called Gloxinia Octololi since he appeared so feminine. Turns out he was actually Octoshota!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 29, 2016, 08:27:32 PM
My rankings this week:

Kimetsu no Yaiba
My Hero Academia
World Trigger
Food Wars

KnY still has that old school feel that I really like. I'm not sure where it's heading, but it's a real shame that it won't be back next week. The other three were simply their usual great selves, Food Wars finally got back to what it does best which was great to see. MHA, though, still the highlight of the issue.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 04, 2016, 11:16:32 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #14 (March 7th, 2016):
Black Clover (Cover, Lead CP, 1st Anniversary)
1- One Piece
2- Assassination Classroom
Mononofu (Center Color)
3- Haikyu!!
4- My Hero Academia
Samon the Summoner (Center Color)
5- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction (Not ranked)
Hinomaru Sumo (Center Color)
6- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
Yuna of Yuragi Manor (Not ranked)
7- World Trigger
8- Kochikame
9- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
10- Toriko
11- Gintama
12- Nisekoi
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-
Bleach (Absent)

Next week Samon, Mononofu, and Black Clover all seem to get color pages again.

EDIT: Gintama is also confirmed to be entering its last arc this year. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-03-04/gintama-manga-enters-final-arc-in-2016/.99405)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on March 05, 2016, 10:29:41 AM
Yeah, Sorachi has hinted that at Jump Festa last year so it's not too surprising.  I still need to start on Gintama at some point.   :sweat:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 07, 2016, 06:55:42 PM
My Hero Academia
World Trigger
Black Clover
Food Wars

Man, MHA is dealing with a mess. Tokoyami and Bakugo are gone, half the villains are downed, Aoyama cowards out, we're still catching up with everyone else, and that final panel was awesome. Definitely the best chapter this week. No question. World Trigger finally ends the mini-invasion, but leaves with a character confrontation at the end. Something big is going on next week. Other two chapters were enjoyable.

The oceans turned acidic and poisonous in Seraph? I guess I was right about there being something in the water.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on March 09, 2016, 10:54:36 PM
I just finished catching up with Assassination Classroom.  While the series has not appealed to everyone, I have personally found it entertaining throughout both its comedic and serious moments.  Overall, the series has definitely cemented itself as a favorite of mine, and it will be sad, yet satisfying, to see it finally end in two more chapters.




Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 10, 2016, 05:37:18 PM
This week:

Samon the Summoner (Cover & Lead Color Page)
1- Assassination Classroom
2- One Piece
Black Clover (Color Page)
3. My Hero Academia
4- Straighten Up!
Mononofu (Color Page)
5- Food Wars
6- Haikyu!!
Yuna of Yuragi Manor (Not ranked)
7- Hinomaru Sumo
8- Gintama
9- Kochikame
Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction (Not ranked)
10- Nisekoi
11- PSI Kusuo Saiki
12- World Trigger
13- Bleach
14- Toriko
Isobe Isobee Monogatari

I guess it's probably a good thing Toriko is heading for its end.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on March 14, 2016, 11:25:48 AM
Hunter x Hunter will be resuming publication. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-03-14/hunter-x-hunter-manga-to-return-for-1st-time-since-august-2014/.99778)

I can't wait for 3 more chapters followed by another 1-2 year hiatus!  :joy:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 14, 2016, 11:44:43 AM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on March 14, 2016, 11:25:48 AM
Hunter x Hunter will be resuming publication. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-03-14/hunter-x-hunter-manga-to-return-for-1st-time-since-august-2014/.99778)

I can't wait for 3 more chapters followed by another 1-2 year hiatus!  :joy:

Do you really think that we'll be lucky enough to get three whole chapters this time? That's pretty optimistic of you. :sly:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on March 14, 2016, 12:16:20 PM
I'll especially like the squiggles that will only be corrected when the volume comes out.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Markness on March 14, 2016, 04:19:00 PM
Serious back pains? ::) Translation: I was playing video games for too long and I got stiff from not using my muscles.  :sly:

If he atleasts shows a battle or two on the Dark Continent, I can deal with another hiatus.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 14, 2016, 05:13:25 PM
I bet he kills Wing and Melody in the very first return chapter.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 14, 2016, 06:55:31 PM
My Hero Academia
World Trigger
Food Wars
One Punch Man

Man, that was a great turn of events in MHA. Having Aoyama save the day at the end there was quite unexpected. And that line from Dabi: "So sad for you, Shoto Todoroki" was a nasty dig of the heel into him for not being fast enough. Bakugo is gone and the forest is on fire. So much to say that this whole raid has been one disaster after another.

World Trigger is always good with showing multiple sides like this. Aftokrator is clearly the most hated force even among all the other Neighbor peoples not just Earth's. Seeing the enemy dealing with Hyuse and trying to pin the whole attack against Aftokrator was a great idea. So seeing it not only backfire but Hyuse falling into Jin's long game plan to getting into Tamakoma-2 was a nice touch. Good capper to the the arc, and I'm eager to see if next we'll finally see the main characters on the road to getting into an away-team soon.

I give Food Wars a lot of credit for not taking the obvious out here. They could have had Kurokiba lose to Rentaro to make the bad guys look a lot better in retrospect and therefor make Soma have to take them all on himself. But they didn't do that. I also enjoy the way the twist was handled here by making the results just as crazy as the competition was. Good chapter.

Metal Bat. What else is there to say? Nice turn to see Garo do something good for a change, especially considering he didn't have to.

Much better week than last week, all things considered.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on March 16, 2016, 08:27:57 AM
Hunter x Hunter's return is slated for the April 18th issue of Jump. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2016-03-16/hunter-x-hunter-manga-return-slated-for-april-18/.99845)

There's also going to be a two part one-shot for the original Yu-Gi-Oh manga in Jump to celebrate the premiere of the new film. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-03-14/kazuki-takahashi-draws-yu-gi-oh-one-shot-manga-ahead-of-the-dark-side-of-dimensions-film/.99787)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 16, 2016, 07:30:44 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #16 (March 19th, 2016):
Haikyu!! (Cover, Lead CP, Season 3 Anime Announcement)
1- My Hero Academia
2- One Piece
Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma (Center Color)
3- Black Clover
4- World Trigger
Assassination Classroom (Center Color, END)
5- Hinomaru Sumo
6- Samon the Summoner
Yuna of Yuragi Manor (Center Color)
7- Mononofu
8- Toriko
9- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction (Not ranked)
10- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
11- Kochikame
12- Bleach
13- Gintama
14- Nisekoi
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-

Go, World Trigger! Always all over the place, but it's nice to see it in the top 5.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on March 20, 2016, 12:13:06 AM
I read the final chapter of Assassination Classroom yesterday.  It was a great send-off, and it's safe to say that the series has cemented itself as one of my favorite manga.  I'm definitely going to check out Neuro now, and I look forward to reading Yusei Matsui's next manga (whenever he plans on making one).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 21, 2016, 06:55:48 PM
My Hero Academia
World Trigger
Food Wars
Black Clover

MHA doesn't take anything lying down. Looks like Eijirou's pushing Midoriya and the others to go after Bakugo, trying to beat All Might to the punch of attacking their enemies. Ida and the others seem against it, and rightfully so, but something tells me Midoriya and Todoroki won't take such a complete defeat so easily. Unfortunately, we have to wait a week to see his decision. There's no way Midoriya goes out there without a plan.

That ends the mini-invasion arc in World Trigger which helped break up the seemingly endless Rank Wars. I do hope Ashihara is planning to move on from this soon. I am very eager to get into the main story again. That said, I can't really complain when the material is just so enjoyable. Hopefully we finally get to see Osamu's new trick next time.

It was good to see Kurokiba win in Food Wars. But something tells me this doesn't mean clear skies are ahead.

Black Clover is simply good at being enjoyable. As I've said before, the comedic moments are actually enjoyable unlike much battle shonen. But here, unlike back during that assembly, he manages to (re-)introduce a lot of characters naturally without wasting panels devoted to each one. Much better writing here and it ends with a pretty good cliffhanger on top of it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 23, 2016, 10:28:36 PM
Kazuhiro Fujita's new series just started in Sunday. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/03/22/kazuhiro-fujitas-new-horror-manga-souboutei-kowasubeshi-pv)

It's called Souboutei Kawasubeshi/Souboutei Must Be Destroyed. I'm hoping this is good and is a success for him and Sunday. That ad they made for the series is pretty cool.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on March 23, 2016, 10:41:17 PM
That ad was amazing!! I hope it's a huge success.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 24, 2016, 08:00:17 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #17 (March 28th, 2016):
My Hero Academia (Cover, Lead CP)
My Hero Academia (Special Chapter, 5 p.)
1- Black Clover
2- Haikyu!!
Nisekoi (Center Color)
3- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
4- World Trigger
Boze (One-Shot, Center Color, 47 p.)
5- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club (Center Color, 25 p.)
6- Samon the Summoner
7- Hinomaru Sumo
8- Gintama
Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction (Center Color)
9- Mononofu
10- Yuna of Yuragi Manor (First ranking)
11- Kochikame
12- Toriko
13- Bleach
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-
One Piece (Absent)

First ranking for the ecchi series is just in the top 10. I suppose it's a good thing it wasn't ranked dead last right off the bat.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 28, 2016, 01:04:11 PM
My Hero Academia
World Trigger
One Punch Man
Black Clover

MHA is still on fire. Everything they do, every action comes back around again. And now it looks like their group of five (Midoriya, Ida, Eijirou, Todoroki, and Yaoyozaru) are going to have covert mission of their own while the heroes attack head on to save Bakugo. It also looks like Midoriya is seriously going to have to learn to control hiw quirk soon because he doesn't have much time left before it will leave his arms permanently useless. Also, Bakugo rejecting the villain offer should be interesting to go into in the weeks to come. Still the best series running in Jump.

I like these little strategy sessions before an official battle in World Trigger. They let you get in a little bit into what everyone's thinking and how they'll play it when the battle starts. As much as I'm hoping Rank Wars is finally reaching its end, this stuff is still a lot of fun to read.

Everything's hitting the fan in OPM. Certainly can't wait to see what happens next.

Black Clover ws a short chapter on dealing with the supposed traitor. It was interesting enough, and some of the magic was pretty cool, but I'm sure next week will have more to it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on March 28, 2016, 08:38:45 PM
It looks like english Shonen Jump will be publishing the AC spin-off chapters. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-03-28/viz-shonen-jump-to-run-assassination-classroom-side-story-spinoff/.100390)  :)

I recently caught up with Black Clover.  While it isn't amazing by any means, I feel that it's still a very entertaining battle-shonen series.  I hope that Tabata continues to improve the series as it goes on.

I'm going to try to catch up with MHA before the anime premieres this weekend.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 29, 2016, 10:57:51 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 23, 2016, 10:28:36 PM
Kazuhiro Fujita's new series just started in Sunday. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/03/22/kazuhiro-fujitas-new-horror-manga-souboutei-kowasubeshi-pv)

It's called Souboutei Kawasubeshi/Souboutei Must Be Destroyed. I'm hoping this is good and is a success for him and Sunday. That ad they made for the series is pretty cool.
Extended preview. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/03/29/preview-showcases-latest-modern-horror-from-ushio-and-tora-author)

That looks quite nuts. Wish I could read it.  :sweat:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on March 30, 2016, 02:19:51 AM
Whoa, I don't know what to make of that except it looks interesting and I've always loved that trailer music. Seriously, does anyone know the name of that music?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 01, 2016, 12:06:04 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #18 (April 4th, 2016):
One Piece (Cover, Lead CP)
1- My Hero Academia
My Hero Academia Smash!! (Special Chapter) (Main Series published in Jump+)
2- Black Clover
3- Haikyu!!
Assassination Classroom Side Story (New Mini-Series, Center Color, Chapter 1)
4- Mononofu
5- Samon the Summoner
Twin Star Exorcists (Special Chapter, Center Color, 32 p.) (Main series published in Jump SQ)
6- Yuna of Yuragi Manor
7- World Trigger
8- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
Hinomaru Sumo (Center Color)
Hinomaru Sumo (Special Chapter)
9- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
10- Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction (First ranking)
11- Kochikame
12- Toriko
13- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
14- Gintama
15- Nisekoi
16- Bleach
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-

Not a bad ranking for KnY's first chapter. Mononofu at #4 is pretty impressive, though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 01, 2016, 01:19:14 AM
I'm back, and so is After the Jump! In this week's issue, a porcupine wants a hug, the Don doggone dies, and Raku loses in a character popularity poll to someone who isn't even from his series. Who says Nisekoi isn't hilarious? All this and more, After the Jump! (http://animationrevelation.com/readables/?p=5375)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 01, 2016, 01:32:49 AM
It's nice to finally see your primary account back in use, CX/VLord. :sly:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on April 01, 2016, 01:39:38 AM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 01, 2016, 01:32:49 AM
It's nice to finally see your primary account back in use, CX/VLord. :sly:
:thinkin:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on April 01, 2016, 04:38:04 AM
Ek, that's just stupid and baseless, dude. Come on.


























Vlord is clearly the primary account.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 04, 2016, 12:49:57 PM
My Hero Academia
World Trigger
Food Wars
Black Clover

Those disguises were hilarious, especially Midoriya's tough guy act. It's nice also to see some of the motivations of the other villains in MHA, as I'm really wondering now what Spinner's deal is in that he admires Stain but doesn't seem as far gone as he was. But Bakugo proves he's no Sasuke. He admires someone like All Might who deals with impossible odds and comes out on top despite it. No way is he going to turn on the good guys. It might also explain why he always smiles when he fights, despite being overwhelmed at times. He's just as much an All Might fanboy as Midoriya even now. Also, the public perception on heroes is turning south, so I do wonder what could possibly happen to turn that around. Even Midoriya's mother doesn't want him going anymore. Once again, these chapters are much too short.

World Trigger is as enjoyable as ever. Katori squad almost bit it off the bat due to Tamakoma's new techniques, though the match is still young. It really can go either way at this point. Especially since Kakizaki still hasn't made a move yet.

Soma and Tsukasa in Food Wars. Now that's a pair I wanted to see interact more. One is more carefree and excitable and the other is high strung and a perfectionist. So it was neat to see them getting along so well. I'm hoping next week we see why exactly someone of Tsukasa's caliber would want to work with Central. Should be fun to see where this goes.

Fun chapter of Black Clover, though I'm not actually sure who was the one using the transformation magic. Some good characterization for Yami here and some funny moments on top of it. Black Clover continues to be a pleasant read every week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 04, 2016, 02:22:36 PM
I read a comment somewhere on another board, but it sums up my thoughts on the previous arc and this current one perfectly: this story-line is a better version of Young Justice (the animated series, not the comic book).

And I was waiting to see what Horikoshi would do with Bakugo. He didn't disappoint. Anyone expecting a Sasuke-like heel-turn from him was just thrown for a loop, and rightfully so. Sasuke is an incredibly poorly-written, unsympathetic, ungodly whiney, and flat-out awful character, and that's not due to intentional writing on Kishimoto's part, either. Earlier on in the series, I was expecting Todoroki to become the Sasuke equivalent of this series, but Horikoshi really impressed me by averting that trope very quickly and making him one of Midroiya's strongest supporting friends. That's why I was sure that he'd do the same with Bakugo, but I still couldn't be sure. Now that this chapter has come out, I can see that Horikoshi really does have a firm grasp on his characters, and while Bakugo may still be really antagonistic towards Midoriya as his main rival, I feel as though he is still every bit as entertaining of a character to follow in his own right. People like Kishimoto could really stand to take notes on how to write good battle shonen characters from series like this.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 04, 2016, 05:14:45 PM
It's funny, because after watching the first episode of the anime and then seeing this chapter (since Bakugo flashes back to when he was a kid) I didn't put two and two together right away. The guy is angry a lot (actually, mostly just loud at this point) but I never understood his smile. If you paid attention, he didn't always smile when he was winning in a fight or when things were going well for him. He actually smiles when he's overwhelmed or in front of who he thinks of as an enemy, just like All Might does. When he said that in the most recent chapter, it all made more sense.

Bakugo's not the most obvious character to figure out, but there's definitely more to him than a guy who likes fighting. He actually likes it because he wants to be a hero that always stops the bad guys no matter what. That's why he was always upset with Midoriya since he kept getting saved by him when Bakugo was the one who was supposed to be the hero. It wasn't really because Midoriya helped him: it wasn't Midoriya he was mad at.

He's actually changed quite a bit from that jerk who thought he was amazing for having a good quirk way back at the beginning of the manga. Horikoshi is just smart enough to not hammer you over the head with it. Which is quite a trick to do with a 'loud" character.

The Festival arc developed Todoroki really well, the Stain arc developed Ida really well, and this arc looks to be doing the same for Bakugo. Definitely can't wait to see where it goes next.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on April 04, 2016, 09:41:55 PM
I just caught up with MHA today.  I feel that's its a great series overall, and I'm interested to see how the current arc progresses since it seems like it's going to be focusing more on Bakugo. 

I'm probably going to focus on catching up with Food Wars and World Trigger now.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 07, 2016, 12:32:58 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #19 (April 11th 2016):

Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club (Cover & Lead Color Page)
1 - My Hero Academia
One Piece (Not ranked, was absent in Issue #12)
Straighten Up! (Extra Chapter)
Black Clover (Color Page)
Assassination Classroom: Side Story
2 - Haikyuu!!
Yu-Gi-Oh! - Transcend Game (Special Chapter, Part I)
3 - Yuna of Yuragi Manor
4 - Hinomaru Zumo
5 - Gintama
Samon the Summoner (Color Page)
6 - Mononofu
7 - Food Wars! Shokugeki no Soma
8 - World Trigger
9 - Kochikame
10 - Kimetsu no Yaiba
11 - Nisekoi
12 - Bleach
13 - PSI Kusuo Saiki
14 - Toriko
Isobe Isobee Monogatari

Huh, Yuna is doing surprisingly well. I really hope that Kimetsu no Yaiba can break out of the bottom five so it won't be in danger of cancellation when it's time for new series to come in. Even though Nisekoi is clearly going to end soon, I'm worried that won't be enough of a buffer to prevent it from getting cut.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 07, 2016, 12:43:02 PM
But didn't AC just end? I would have thought that would be a space buffer until the next series ends. Nothing has taken its spot yet.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 07, 2016, 12:50:23 PM
Well, they only ended Buddy Strike to make room for both Kimetsu and Yuna when they debuted, so AC ended up balancing that out when it finished. Whether or not Kimetsu gets cut is probably going to come down to how many new series are debuting at the same time, and whether or not Nisekoi is ready to end in time to make room for them.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 07, 2016, 12:55:40 PM
Well, here's hoping there's only a single series next time. With so many series nearing their end, it would be nice for some of the new ones to have room to breathe like Mononofu and Samon had.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 07, 2016, 04:35:42 PM
Some recent manga reviews of mine finally got published today:

Yamada-kun and the Seven Witches chapter #200 (http://all-comic.com/2016/yamada-kun-seven-witches-200/)
Fairy Tail chapter #479 (http://all-comic.com/2016/fairy-tail-479/)
The Seven Deadly Sins chapter #168 (http://all-comic.com/2016/seven-deadly-sins-168/)
The Seven Deadly Sins chapter #169 (http://all-comic.com/2016/seven-deadly-sins-169/)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 08, 2016, 05:45:36 PM
Princess Jellyfish volume 1 ranked #3 on this week's NYT Top Selling Manga list! (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-04-08/new-york-times-manga-best-seller-list-march-27-april-2/.100850)  :swoon:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 08, 2016, 09:53:02 PM
Kodansha is about to begin simul-publishing their series. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/04/08-1/kodansha-comics-begins-simul-published-digital-manga-chapter-sales)

Now only Sunday is left without any online presence over here.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 08, 2016, 10:02:27 PM
All of those series are currently being simul-published on Crunchyroll, and many of which have been for almost three years by this point. They're just now going to be available on ComiXology and Amazon as well.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 08, 2016, 10:08:28 PM
Oh, cool. I didn't know since I don't read any of them.

Still would like Sunday to try something like that.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on April 09, 2016, 08:49:42 AM
Kodansha USA is planning to release Vinland Saga Book 8 this fall and a 35th anniversary manga box set for Akira ( in hardcover and right-to-left) next year. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-04-09/kodansha-usa-announces-35th-anniversary-set-for-akira-manga-vinland-saga-book-8/.100858)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 09, 2016, 01:03:25 PM
Really strong chapters from Food Wars and My Hero Academia this week.

Tsukasa challenging Soma to a shokugeki is something that has been foreshadowed ever since the Food Festival arc when when Kuga had a flash-back to Tsukasa accepting his challenge (before Kuga had actually attained his own seat in the E10) and utterly defeating him in the process.

Let's get this out of the way: Soma is ridiculously OP compared to most shonen protagonists in competition-based manga, but part of that is because he was always challenging people either beneath or equal to his level of skill. The only actual student that he's ever lost to so far is Hayama Akira, and Ryou is the only one who he's ever tied with. He's pretty much beat every other challenger who's come his way that wasn't an adult. Due to that, Soma is clearly written to be rather arrogant and quite a bit overconfident. I believe that he's clearly not ready for someone of Tsukasa's caliber, though, and will have a similar experience to Kuga in that he will be completely crushed (unless someone intervenes and stops this unofficial shokugeki from taking place). Now, how he will react to such a defeat may differ based on his character, as he has been crushed by adults before and while he gets visually upset, he is certainly never broken by the experience. But what excites me is that if he loses to another student by such a high margin, it may knock some sense into him and help with his character development, perhaps making him a tad more humble and less full of himself. More than that, though, it would be a very interesting and unconventional story-telling angle to have Soma forced to work for the enemy against his will, and start to see things from their point of view while comparing it to his own. There is a lot of potential for great story-telling here. Hopefully the mangaka can capitalize on it.

My Hero Academia was pure hype. As Desensitized already called out last week, Bakugou's behavior is not actually villainous, but rather it is clear evidence that he wants to be the greatest hero more than anyone else. It shows how good of a writer Horikoshi is when what someone like Desensitized analyzes about one of his characters is actually accurate, as confirmed by Mr. Eraserhead who basically says the same thing, rather than his thoughts on the character being mislead by the author just pulling things out of his ass, as in Sasuke....

I also like how this manga doesn't shy away from the politics of media, with how UA has gone hot under fire from the press basically trying to destroy their reputation due to the incident at the forest resort where the villains broke past their security with ease, causing several injuries and a kidnapping. Also, kudos to Bakugou for actually being smart and realizing that he has the advantage in this situation, since the villains clearly can't kill him being that they want to use him for something. Of course, there's no way he has a chance against several top-level villains at once, even if they are holding back, but I appreciate that he's actually clever enough to figure out his own situation and what he's capable of doing. Midoriya and the rest of the group are getting closer to making their move toward rescuing Bakugou, but not much happened with them this chapter. However, we did get the reveal that All Might and the other top heroes who aren't directly tied down by the UA-media debacle are ready to storm the place, so this should lead to an interesting clash when the Class A group arrives as well.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 09, 2016, 01:50:37 PM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on April 09, 2016, 08:49:42 AM
Kodansha USA is planning to release Vinland Saga Book 8 this fall and a 35th anniversary manga box set for Akira ( in hardcover and right-to-left) next year. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-04-09/kodansha-usa-announces-35th-anniversary-set-for-akira-manga-vinland-saga-book-8/.100858)

Glad they're continuing! Though after this they probably won't be able to publish any more volumes for a while since they'll be about caught up with the japanese releases.

In less savory news, this tweet from Dark Horse recently came to my attention...

(https://41.media.tumblr.com/0ac0a8987a7af39998c361ccf110a02b/tumblr_o5dqn1MR0U1r6toezo1_500.jpg)

:(
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Markness on April 09, 2016, 03:31:56 PM
Time to come up for air now. They just don't seem to care about either series as well as Eden.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on April 09, 2016, 09:14:37 PM
Quote from: LumRanmaYasha on April 09, 2016, 01:50:37 PM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on April 09, 2016, 08:49:42 AM
Kodansha USA is planning to release Vinland Saga Book 8 this fall and a 35th anniversary manga box set for Akira ( in hardcover and right-to-left) next year. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-04-09/kodansha-usa-announces-35th-anniversary-set-for-akira-manga-vinland-saga-book-8/.100858)

Glad they're continuing! Though after this they probably won't be able to publish any more volumes for a while since they'll be about caught up with the japanese releases.

In less savory news, this tweet from Dark Horse recently came to my attention...

(https://41.media.tumblr.com/0ac0a8987a7af39998c361ccf110a02b/tumblr_o5dqn1MR0U1r6toezo1_500.jpg)

:(
At this point, I think Vinland Saga's future releases are pretty secure since Kodansha will only need to release a volume per year at most from now on.

I'm kind of hoping that Dark Horse has just not planned dates for any new Drifters and BBB releases yet rather than them dropping releases for the series altogether.  It's would be strange to stop releases especially for Drifters since it isn't very long and the anime is coming out pretty soon.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 10, 2016, 09:18:33 PM
Sales could only have gone up for BBB since the anime came out. I can't see it being canceled now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 10, 2016, 09:50:11 PM
You'd think, but they tweeted that back in January, well after the anime had ended. Hopefully they'll resume releases eventually, or the license will be picked up by another publisher. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 11, 2016, 01:04:41 AM
It took me a while, but the latest WSJ review is finally up! In this week's issue, Jack gets smacked, Yaoyorozu talks economics, and Korosensei lucks out at the races. Also, gasp, could it be? Osamu was actually useful in a fight? Huzzah! Oh, what a joyous day to be a member of the Unofficial Osamu Fanclub! All this and more, After the Jump! (http://animationrevelation.com/readables/?p=5526)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 11, 2016, 11:11:24 AM
Good stuff as usual, but I don't think Shigaraki is Bakugo's dad. I think it was Shigaraki saying "father" at the end, for some reason we haven't been shown yet.

But this was a great chapter this week which actually confirmed what I'd been thinking about Bakugo for a while now. It looks like Horikoshi puts A LOT of thought into his characters, which always makes this so much fun to read every week. And I'm very excited about what's to come next since just about every hero introduced so far is about to join in on the attack.

If Shigaraki is about to get something from All For One and its corresponding to this raid, I think something bad is going to go down, especially since there seem to be multiple targets. I'm also betting we'll meet the traitor here, if there is one, due to how much opportunity this would be to take down a hero or two.

It's a really apt chapter title, that's for sure.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 11, 2016, 11:13:44 AM
Yeah, I interpreted it as Shigaraki addressing his dad as well. Great write-ups, though.

I like every Jump series that I'm currently following these days, with the exception of Nisekoi which I really have a lot of personal peeves about. But hey, at least the people who are enjoying it are enjoying it, so it's still getting its job done.

Black Clover has been showing more promise recently. Up until now, it's been on the same level of quality as Haikyuu for me. Fun for what it is, but ultimately very generic and fairly predictable. But the recent developments in the past few chapters hint at more interesting story-lines and character development to come down the line. The potential is there, but it's up to the mangaka to deliver on that potential.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 11, 2016, 11:39:26 AM
This week's issue was really good, even I understood the significance of the end of One Piece's chapter.

My rankings would go like this:

My Hero Academia
World Trigger
Food Wars
Black Clover

What I especially appreciated about the last three was the comedic timing. The final moments of World Trigger were awesomely hilarious, Black Clover's twist from what could have been a typical beach episode into plot (Yami's appearance was so well timed) which was a very smart writing choice, and Food Wars had some really good moments, my favorite being when Soma wondered if all chef's are self-centered egomaniacs to which the story instantly cuts to Erina. Very funny stuff this week.

But all four of my top chapters were all highly enjoyable, each series at the best of its abilities. They were almost all set-up for reveals next week, but that didn't make them any less fun to read.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 11, 2016, 07:28:56 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 11, 2016, 11:11:24 AM
Good stuff as usual, but I don't think Shigaraki is Bakugo's dad. I think it was Shigaraki saying "father" at the end, for some reason we haven't been shown yet.

Yeah, I should've looked at the panel more carefully. The font for the dialogue in those panels was clearly different than the one used for when Bakugo was speaking, and the latest chapter pretty much confirms that the two don't have a previous connection. Though, that means the implication is that the hand Shigaraki always has on his face is his father's, since he's looking at it when he's saying the line and it's a direct response to it being blown off his face. I'm really curious to see what the history is behind that, and why Shigaraki wears his father's hand over his face if that's indeed whose it is.

This week was another really good issue. Definitely one of the funniest in a while too. Should be a lot of fun to write up.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 11, 2016, 08:02:06 PM
In case anyone here was interested in some WSJ back issues from 2014 or wants to catch up on Hunter X Hunter's Dark Continent arc legally...

(https://41.media.tumblr.com/a41cfc11ad64a482d2f771fa9a0c53a7/tumblr_o5hx462ZtD1r6toezo1_1280.jpg)

I bought the bundle and there's some neat extras included in those issues, particularly the Rurouni Kenshin Shishio spin-off/gaiden and one-shots from the Blue Exorcist and Psyren mangakas. Just wish they didn't skip the issues HXH was absent, but it's rare enough they ever sell back issues this far back to begin with, so I'm happy to take what I can get.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 11, 2016, 08:31:22 PM
Yeah, I got them mostly for the extras you mentioned. Since HxH going to be running, might as well read the DC stuff and catch up as well. Not that I'll be very invested. I'm pretty much disconnecting myself from investing in it until it's done.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Rynnec on April 12, 2016, 02:37:48 AM
I've detested Blue Exorcist since day 1, but I always did find Shura to be one of the few things I enjoyed about it, glad to see she's getting some development.

The reveal in this weeks Bleach has been theorized for ages, as far back when it did a similar thing with Starrk and Lilynette and possibly even farther back then that. Kenpachi's Shikai and Bankai look pretty cool and I'm looking forward to see more of his Bankai.

The thing that's bugged me about Seraph the most is the main character himself. Guren, Shinoa, anyone would have made for a much better protagonist than Yu, who has generic shounen hero written all over him. I guess I'm concerned about Mitsuba's fate...but mostly for shipping reasons. :sweat:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 12, 2016, 05:21:50 AM
Quote from: Rynnec on April 12, 2016, 02:37:48 AM
I've detested Blue Exorcist since day 1, but I always did find Shura to be one of the few things I enjoyed about it, glad to see she's getting some development.

I admit, I wasn't looking forward to catching up on it since I didn't like the anime. In fact, I probably never would've read it if I didn't want to properly analyze it for these Jump reviews (same deal with Seraph), and while I found the first fifteen or so chapters to be a slog, the series honestly really picks up at the point the anime and manga diverge, and while there have occasionally been some frustrating moments, I really do enjoy it now. I'm glad I gave it another shot.

Quote from: Rynnec on April 12, 2016, 02:37:48 AM
The thing that's bugged me about Seraph the most is the main character himself. Guren, Shinoa, anyone would have made for a much better protagonist than Yu, who has generic shounen hero written all over him. I guess I'm concerned about Mitsuba's fate...but mostly for shipping reasons. :sweat:

I agree. What particularly bothers me about Yu is how he made a total 180 in personality so quickly at the beginning of the series. He started off being a broody, anti-social loner, and then at some point just suddenly started exposing how awesome friendship is and being inappropriately cheerful and optimistic. He feels like two separate characters that somehow got switched with each other and the author just didn't notice.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 12, 2016, 10:44:48 AM
Out of curiosity, around what chapter does the manga diverge from the anime?

I checked out the anime last year and found it to be one of the most generic things that I've ever seen. On the one hand, it wasn't nearly as terrible as I expected, but absolutely nothing about it was any better than average. It was so mundane and boring that I actually kind of wished that it was a lot worse so it could be entertaining in that "unintentionally funny" sort of way, like the last few years of Naruto's run.

I may check out the manga if it gets better, but I don't want to slog through any parts that are mostly the same as the anime.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 12, 2016, 12:03:52 PM
The anime adapted the first four volumes in it's first 17 episodes. The series diverges with the very first chapter of volume 5, chapter #16, which also begins a long arc that's where I personally feel the series comes into it's own and what ultimately won me over to it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 12, 2016, 12:06:21 PM
OK, so it looks like I should start with volume 5 of the manga. Thanks! That saves me a lot of time.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 12, 2016, 12:10:14 PM
For a second I thought you guys were talking about Seraph. That's much too much praise for something that rarely reaches the level of mediocre.  ;)

Blue Exorcist is all right. It's definitely the better monthly series in Jump.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 14, 2016, 08:28:42 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #20 (April 18th, 2016):
Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma (Cover, Lead CP)
1- Black Clover
2- One Piece
My Hero Academia (Center Color)
Assassination Classroom Side Story (Chapter 3)
3- Mononofu
Mononofu (Special Chapter, 8 p.)
Yu-Gi-Oh! Transcend Game (Special Chapter, Center Color, Part 2, 29 p.)
Hunter x Hunter (Center Color)
4- Yuna of Yuragi Manor
5- World Trigger
6- Haikyu!!
7- Toriko
8- Gintama
9- Samon the Summoner
10- Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
11- Hinomaru Sumo
12- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
13- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
14- Kochikame
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard- (Center Color)
15- Nisekoi
16- Bleach

Out of curiosity, when was the last time World Trigger got color pages? It feels like it's been a long time.

EDIT: Real list
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 14, 2016, 12:49:27 PM
The last time World Trigger had color pages was chapter 104, which came out last June. So yeah, it's been almost a year since it's had color pages. Though it should hopefully get them (and the cover) when Jump finally decides to celebrate it's third anniversary.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 14, 2016, 06:43:08 PM
Wow, it's been a while.

On another note, I updated the list. Apparently the original was fake.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 14, 2016, 08:57:21 PM
Not gonna lie, I had a hard time following what was going on in the latest chapter of HXH. Each chapter is so dense with information that you can easily forget a lot if you haven't read any of it in over a year. I'll need to re-start this arc from the beginning, later on.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on April 14, 2016, 09:39:59 PM
I usually wait until Viz's WSJ release to read the new Jump chapters, but I decided to make an exception for HxH since it's been so long.  While I definitely need to go back a read the previous chapters again, I think was able to decently understand the current situation with the Kakin prince conflict. 
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I'm also happy that Biscuit and Melody are going to be involved in this arc.  :)
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Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 14, 2016, 10:58:01 PM
I like that they brought Kurapika's master back as well.

I'm actually wondering if this arc will write Gon out of the story for a while. Despite being the apparent "main character" of the series, I wouldn't put it past Togashi to defy expectations by doing this. For one thing, his character arc is already pretty much complete since having met with his father. Furthermore, he really has no stake or purpose in joining this expedition, and Togashi doesn't tend to keep characters around "just because," as has been seen with Kurapika and Leorio, and now (unfortunately) with Killua, aside from a few brief mentions here and there. Additionally, we've barely seen Gon so far.

To me, Togashi seems to be setting up for two-to-three ongoing story-lines. One is with Kurapika and the team that he has assembled, and I have a feeling that Leorio will end up working with him directly, eventually, and the other is with Ging and Paristan's rivalry, which is by far the best thing about this arc at this point. With two characters who I find to be more interesting than Gon, and two who I find to be more fun, I honestly wouldn't mind if Togashi gives Gon some downtime for a while.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 16, 2016, 02:12:26 PM
So, I just caught up with Twin Star Exorcists since Cartoon X and Desensitized said that it gets better later on, though there wasn't really as much of the manga out as I expected, so catching up was extremely short and easy in this case.

Overall, while I do agree that it gets better and shows some promise, it's mostly just "alright" status with me. I guess you could say that the overall package is certainly entertaining for what it is, but the individual aspects which make it up are fairly average.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 18, 2016, 03:08:05 PM
World Trigger
My Hero Academia
Food Wars
Black Clover

This chapter is why I enjoy World Trigger so much. Lots of strategy and well composed and directed action with a good cliffhanger that makes me want to see what happens next week. It's easy to complain about how long the Rank Wars have been going, but they're always so enjoyable that it doesn't bother me at all. I'm so glad it has been able to recover in the rankings since Ashihara had his operation and hope he can continue to make this such a pleasure to read every week.

Meanwhile, it looks like the villains are finished in MHA. The heroes' raid has completely taken down both their hideout and the Nomu. It seems like Midoriya's gang didn't need to go out after all. But that all went too well. I can't help but wonder if there isn't something else at play here. We still haven't seen what All For One is up to yet.

In Food Wars it's nice to see Soma have some personal stake in whether Azami succeeds or not. Not a whole lot happened otherwise, but setting up motivation goes a long way to improving the current situation.

It was nice seeing Noelle not being a jerk for once in Black Clover. I doubt it'll last, but it was nice to see her grow at least a little. All in all, it rounds out the top 4 nicely.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on April 19, 2016, 05:01:35 PM
Rumor has it that Naoko Takeuchi may be helping Togashi with Hunter x Hunter. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/04/19/return-of-hunter-x-hunter-rumored-to-have-some-magical-assistance-spoiler-warning)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 19, 2016, 05:30:59 PM
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg1.ak.crunchyroll.com%2Fi%2Fspire1%2F73721b06831b85957bcc091c179ae9741461092730_full.png&hash=e9e348d1d281588a64eca0c06783609eeb1f74aa)

Words to live by.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 20, 2016, 05:54:57 PM
Makoto Raiku is starting a new weekly series in Weekly Shonen Magazine. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-04-20/gash-zatch-bell-makoto-raiku-to-launch-school-fantasy-manga/.101261)

This should be something to keep an eye on.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on April 20, 2016, 06:38:24 PM
This reminds me that I still need to finish Zatch Bell and read Animal Land at some point.   :sweat:

Hopefully, Crunchyroll will simul-pub Raiku's new manga like they're doing for a lot of other WSM series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on April 21, 2016, 12:04:11 PM
I just finished reading the new HxH chapter......

Spoiler
HOLY SHIT CHROLLO IS BACK!!!!!!!  :shakeshakeshake:
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Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 21, 2016, 12:18:45 PM
Well, that came out of nowhere....but it was awesome! :joy:

That said, I highly doubt that this fight will end in a death. I just can't see Togashi killing either of these major villains off at this point in the series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 21, 2016, 03:32:03 PM
You can't, huh?  :sly:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 21, 2016, 04:31:43 PM
Unlike a certain expendable butler, Chrollo actually has major villain-status armor protecting him. And Hisoka can't die because Gon.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 21, 2016, 05:21:05 PM
I've been so busy as of late that I'll have to skip putting a review up for last week' s issue of Shonen Jump, so here's what my rankings would've been for that issue:

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1. Toriko - Badass in signature Toriko fashion. I loved the way Jiro knocks out all the Nitro are progressively more entertaining, brutal, and over the top than the last, and the set-up for the Neo/Acacia vs. Jiro fight was timed and executed (pun intended) so well. The chapter I re-read the most that week.
2. World Trigger - Satisfying showing of Tamakoma-2's prowess, with great strategy really contingent on every member playing a role, and an awesome moment from Chika in the final page.
3. My Hero Academia - Great build-up for the top heroes storming the League of Villains' base, with good character moments from Bakugo and set-up for All-For-One's intervention in the conflict.
4. Black Clover - A funny and enjoyable way to reintroduce a lot of characters and seque into the next arc.

Character of the Week: Erina Nakiri (Food Wars!) - I appreciated how Erina has been truly affected by her recent experiences and is now really starting to think about what she wants as an individual and whether she should rebel against her father and seek her own path in life. It's development that been building up throughout the series, and while it didn't pay off in the chapter, this is the first time she's really been so self-aware and reflective of herself as a person, and I'm really excited to see where her character arc will go.

Line of the Week:

"Sheesh. Why is it that all chefs all such self-centered egomaniacs?" - Soma Yuhihira (Food Wars!)

Panel of the Week:

(https://40.media.tumblr.com/96781f13e17a2c0e05b4ddbf566f5067/tumblr_o608clMOtP1r6toezo2_500.jpg)

Page of the Week:

(https://41.media.tumblr.com/ab9649fd4c5a3a9c24cbf202a9b0c942/tumblr_o608clMOtP1r6toezo1_500.jpg)

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Hopefully I can find time to write about this week's issue since I don't want to miss the first issue of HxH's return and all. But since school ends for me next week, I should at least be able to put them out at consistently during the rest of the summer.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 21, 2016, 05:26:27 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #21/22 (April 25th 2016)

One Piece (Cover & Lead Color Page)
1- My Hero Academia
2- Black Clover
3- Haikyuu!!
Haikyuu!! (Extra Chapter)
Hunter x Hunter
4- Samon-kun wa Summoner
Naruto - Gaiden (Color Page)
5- PSI Kusuo Saiki
Assassination Classroom: Side Story (Color Page, End)
6- Mononofu
7- Yuna of Yuragi Manor
8- World Trigger
Hinomaru Zumou (Color Page)
9- Kimetsu no Yaiba
10- Nisekoi
11- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
12- Food Wars!
13- Kochikame
14- Bleach
15- Gintama
16- Toriko
Isobe Isobee Monogatari
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 21, 2016, 05:55:03 PM
Kimetsu no Yaiba cracked into the single digits! Good to see.

Nice write ups. Last week's issue was really fun.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 25, 2016, 01:18:17 PM
My rankings for the week:

#1 - My Hero Academia

Spoiler
Do I need to give any reasons other than this?

(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg52%2FJ37%2FMHA.png&hash=6d88484bda48a8a5ee90918248f97a7be75198bd)
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#2 - World Trigger

Tamakoma is wiping the floor with them! It really is good to see them not only back in action but at their best again. As far as I can see, the match is basically over now. Kuga is in a two on one after taking out the third, no one can block Chika's shots, and Osamu has gone his ground game figured out. If either of the other teams are going to make a move soon they have to do it quick.

#3 - Food Wars

I always enjoy the Shokugeki parts of the series, and even if this isn't technically official, it's still enjoyable. Especially when they find a way to end it like that. Really eager to see where this goes next issue.

#4 - Black Clover

Black Clover, oddly enough, is a battle series where I feel it's more enjoyable outside of battles. Though I am eager to see where this goes next. It has improved a good deal since the invasion arc.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on May 02, 2016, 08:32:04 AM
The Disaster of Psi Kusuo Saiki is finally getting a TV anime this July (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-05-02/saiki-kusuo-no-psi-nan-manga-gets-tv-anime-in-july/.101704)!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 02, 2016, 09:38:46 AM
Awesome. That should let it stick around for a while in the magazine and give it a chance for NA release.

Only adaptions left for the older series is Hinamaru Sumo. Nothing else has enough material yet.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 02, 2016, 05:29:24 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #23 (May 9th, 2016):
The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki (Cover, Lead CP, 4th Anniversary, Anime Announcement)
1- My Hero Academia
2- One Piece
3- Gintama
4- World Trigger
Haikyu!! (Center Color)
5- Samon the Summoner
Hunter x Hunter (Not Ranked)
Boruto: Naruto Next Generation (New Monthly Series, Center Color, 59 p.)
6- Yuna of Yuragi Manor
Black Clover (Center Color)
7- Hinomaru Sumo
8- Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
9- Kochikame
10- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
11- Mononofu
12- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
13- Nisekoi
14- Bleach
15- Toriko
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-

Surprising stuff this week. KnY continues its slow climb up, Gintama and World Trigger near the top, and Mononofu out of the top 10 for the first time in a while. Straighten Up and Food Wars continue their random placements. Nisekoi, Bleach, and Toriko, are still stuck near the bottom which is probably good that they're all nearing the end now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 05, 2016, 01:30:17 PM
As long-winded as Togashi's explanations of Nen abilities can be, this chapter proved that sometimes they can be totally worth it. The tactics that Chrollo is using against Hisoka are brilliant, and really put him in a serious bind.

Also, despite both being ruthless killers, it's really cool to see Togashi highlight a clear difference between their personalities and life philosophies.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 09, 2016, 12:38:47 PM
My Hero Academia
World Trigger
Food Wars
Blue Exorcist

My Hero Academia is still on fire. I'm pretty sure they just killed one of the heroes and now All Might is setting off against All For One with Bakugo's life on the line and the others huddling out of fear. There's still no question in my mind that this is the best series currently running in Jump. Some nice character moments from World Trigger this week. I always like when we learn a little bit about the other squads, and it's good to see Kakizaki squad in a whole other light. Also, I do wonder what this means for Kuga. If he's out, then Tamakoma will be in a tight space. Food Wars really lets the tension sit, leaving me still wondering what is going to happen next. Also liked that Blue Exorcist finally finished the current arc. It was surprisingly enjoyable for someone not too familiar with it.

Another great week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 09, 2016, 01:45:10 PM
I'm not entirely sure if Best Jeanist is dead or not. He's a fairly minor character so I wouldn't be surprised if he is, but the way that the scene played out was purposefully vague on whether he was pierced anywhere vital or not, so he could either be dead or just passed out. Either way, he's not an incredibly important character, so it probably wouldn't affect too much, unless somehow Bakugou developed an off-screen sort of respect for him during his career week and would be enraged to see him dead (which I doubt). It definitely was another really good chapter, though.

The funny thing about MHA is that I've heard certain people say that it goes downhill after the beginning because it basically just follows the very typical shonen formula that we've seen in at least a hundred other Jump manga. You see, while I can't actually disagree with the latter, I feel that the people criticizing it merely for being formulaic are letting that blind them from what's more important. It's not what the story is, but how it's told that's actually worth caring about. Yes, MHA is crammed full of battle shonen tropes, but it's also clearly aware of that and makes things entertaining by presenting its own interesting spin on many of those tropes, while simultaneously doing a better job with balancing and developing its characters than most other Jump manga tend to be able to do. For example, the students being attacked and one of them being kidnapped is a cliche, and you could find similar plot points in manga like Naruto or HSDK. However where MHA differs, and why it's more interesting with this trope, is how it handles it. We get to see things that we don't normally see, like how the school has to deal with repercussions from the media, politicians, and kids's parents for their fuck-up, which are serious consequences that make the situation more interesting and provides an excellent sense of world-building. Furthermore, both the villains and Bakugou are characterized differently from how we might expect. The villains actually seem rather convinced that they have a good cause behind them (well, at least most of them do, while some clearly don't care), but whereas a lesser writer would have Bakugou succumb to his dark side or temptations, his character shows his true colors by rightfully pointing out that the villains are essentially a bunch of whiny emos who can't deal with life not always throwing everything their way. It's both a nice surprise from the usual cliche, while also being a good commentary on lame many other battle shonen villains can be when they are meant to come off as cool or threatening, but instead come off as unintentionally bratty.

So, to me, the people who just slap the "generic" label on MHA simply because of what story beats it follows on the outset are the type who have a clear vision in their head for what they think is a trope-driven, uninspired story, and let that cloud them from judging the story based on what's actually going on within the context and details of its world and characters. It's quite a lot like how Yu Yu Hakusho's Dark Tournament arc is a tournament arc, something that's been done in hundreds to thousands of manga and anime, but looking beneath the surface level, you see rich details like nuanced characters with great development, a more complex and intricate story unfolding within the guise of a tournament, and a very unique and interesting set of villains to keep encounters interesting despite the formula itself being rather old and overdone.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 09, 2016, 04:14:53 PM
MHA is proof that execution is everything.

But it does make me laugh a bit when people watching the anime for the first time dismiss it as generic and think they know where the story is going. The only thing they tend to get right is that there's a sort-of tournament arc, though it doesn't end the way you'd think it would. Everything else has been decidedly off. Especially because it rides on the idea that every character is a walking cliche like most other shonen. Everything Horikoshi has set up so far has been character development and building all leading towards the main story.

On the other hand, if this arc goes where I think it might, it might hint that the main story is about ready to begin. But if we didn't get all that material about Midoriya, Bakugo, Ida, Todoroki, Uraraka, All Might, Stain, the other students who all had their own moments, or Shigaraki and his crew, it probably wouldn't be as interesting as it is to keep up with.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on May 09, 2016, 09:32:09 PM
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I'm starting to think that Togashi is really tired of the hiatus jokes.  :sweat:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 09, 2016, 10:05:10 PM
The weird part of that comment is that it came in between all the other comments about offering prayers and well wishes to those affected by the earthquake. If you didn't know better you'd think he was affected by the disaster with a comment like that.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 14, 2016, 11:38:18 PM
This fight between Hisoka and Chrollo is turning out to be one of the best in the series. It's the most fun that I've had with this manga in a long time.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 15, 2016, 10:17:36 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #24 (May 16th, 2016):
Takuan and Batsu's Daily Demon Diary (Cover, Lead CP, New Series, 54 p.)
1- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
2- Black Clover
3- My Hero Academia
4- Haikyu!!
5- World Trigger
Mononofu (Center Color)
6- Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
7- Yuna of Yuragi Manor
Hinomaru Sumo (Center Color)
8- Samon the Summoner
Hunter x Hunter (Not Ranked)
9- The Mishaps of Kusuo Saiki
10- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
11- Kochikame
12- Nisekoi
13- Bleach
14- Gintama
15- Toriko
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-
One Piece (Absent)

I'm breathing a sigh of relief for KnY. It's made it to #6. Should be around for a good while now. Food Wars is already back at #1, continuing its odd ranking. It is actually funny that the bottom 4 series are all on their final arcs right now, which means hopefully nothing else will be canceled for quite some time.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 16, 2016, 01:36:51 PM
This week's ranking:

My Hero Academia
World Trigger
Food Wars
Takuan & Batsu's Daily Demon Diary


Now, if this chapter of MHA doesn't show you that Bakugo has come a long way, I doubt anything will. There is no way the Bakugo from Chapter 1 would have accepted any help regardless of who it was. It also proves the reason he told Midoriya to stay away was not out of pride, but because he didn't want him to get hurt for his sake. Oh yeah, and All For One continues to smash everything to crap while All Might tries to fight him off. Excellent chapter.

Now, World Trigger was off the chain. Osamu! Finally, my man! He took out two members of Katori Squad on his own, just as Kuga wiped out Kakizaki. Now it's just the three members of Tamakoma-2 against Katori and Teruya. This match is almost wrapped up, here's hoping they can go for a clean sweep. All that build up made this chapter one fun read.

An exciting chapter of Food Wars this week where we see Soma lost and the others start winning. But who really knows where this is all leading, especially since Advancement Exams are just up ahead.

Takuan & Batsu reminded me of Muhyo & Ryoji, except with Takuan being a bit of a different character. I really enjoyed the guy striving to live a normal life who secretly has demons of his own he had been fighting inside the whole time. Really, I think he made the whole chapter work. The rest of it was fine, probably a better version of Samon as a whole, but I think if it sticks around it will be due to Takuan. Good start for the series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 16, 2016, 02:53:34 PM
Food Wars has me excited at the prospect of sending the students back out into the world for some practical experience again (which really reminds me of my student pharmacy rotations back in college). The last time they did this resulted in probably my favorite arc of the series, so far. Also, I have a strong feeling that Soma will run into one or more Tootsuki alumni again, most likely Gin or his dad.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 18, 2016, 02:39:59 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 09, 2016, 01:45:10 PM

The funny thing about MHA is that I've heard certain people say that it goes downhill after the beginning because it basically just follows the very typical shonen formula that we've seen in at least a hundred other Jump manga. You see, while I can't actually disagree with the latter, I feel that the people criticizing it merely for being formulaic are letting that blind them from what's more important. It's not what the story is, but how it's told that's actually worth caring about. Yes, MHA is crammed full of battle shonen tropes, but it's also clearly aware of that and makes things entertaining by presenting its own interesting spin on many of those tropes, while simultaneously doing a better job with balancing and developing its characters than most other Jump manga tend to be able to do.

So, to me, the people who just slap the "generic" label on MHA simply because of what story beats it follows on the outset are the type who have a clear vision in their head for what they think is a trope-driven, uninspired story, and let that cloud them from judging the story based on what's actually going on within the context and details of its world and characters.

:thinkin:

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 06, 2015, 12:04:58 AM
-I'm already bored of My Hero Academy. It's a generic battle shonen now. That....really didn't take long.

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 06, 2015, 12:21:56 AM
Most modern battle shonen are just one of two things:

-Interesting worlds with great concepts yet hardly do anything interesting with them and/or don't have interesting enough characters to support them and give you sonething to get really invested in (Magi, My Hero Academy, World Trigger, etc.)

-Generic safe crap that gets just enough ratings to keep it running and getting the mangaka a steady weekly paycheck

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 06, 2015, 09:44:16 AM

My Hero Academy: As a comedy manga I was enjoying it. Now that it focuses more on traditional battles, character archetypes, and predictable speeches about what it means to be a hero and stick to ideals, I just don't find it to be particularly interesting outside of some occasional comedy.


Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 06, 2015, 01:05:57 PM
I liked the manga early on when it was less about generic training and villain fights, and more about just being fun. I'm not against either of those things, but I don't find the execution to be anything special. Clearly you do. That's fine. There really isn't much more to say about it than that. I'm just not personally a fan of the direction that this manga is taking.


:humhumhum:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 18, 2016, 03:10:44 PM
Those were during the Sports Festival arc, which I have said and still say is the weakest and most uninspired part of the series. I still strongly hold to that opinion. I was talking about how I disagree with people who insist that the manga is still a generic battle shonen for everything after that.

So yeah, nice try, but it doesn't work when you take my posts out of context.

Do I really need to overexplain everything? It's like if I leave out some obvious details you always somehow miss the point. :humhumhum:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 18, 2016, 03:42:28 PM
He simply changed his mind. It happens. Since I've been re-reading the early chapters in the volume releases, I appreciate the Sports Festival more now since most of the best stuff doesn't actually take place during any of the events, but I can't argue that it is the weakest material in the manga.

For instance, the material between the short tournament rounds are much more interesting than the tournament itself, outside of maybe three total fights, and only one of which involves Midoriya himself. The fights are actually rather uninspired (Kaminari loses in a single panel . . . really?) compared to just about every other one in the series. I hold to the opinion that the race, Bakugo, Uraraka, and Todoroki, are the best parts of the arc. Everything else is not as good as what came before or after.

That said, when the tournament ends, it gets awesome and has stayed awesome ever since.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 18, 2016, 09:36:43 PM
Hayate the Combat Butler is finally nearing the end. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-05-17/hayate-the-combat-butler-manga-story-approaches-climax/.102229)

I find it amazing it has run this long, honestly. It's not exactly the type of story that needs to run 50 volumes.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 18, 2016, 11:16:19 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 18, 2016, 03:42:28 PM
I appreciate the Sports Festival more now since most of the best stuff doesn't actually take place during any of the events, but I can't argue that it is the weakest material in the manga.

For instance, the material between the short tournament rounds are much more interesting than the tournament itself, outside of maybe three total fights, and only one of which involves Midoriya himself. The fights are actually rather uninspired (Kaminari loses in a single panel . . . really?) compared to just about every other one in the series. I hold to the opinion that the race, Bakugo, Uraraka, and Todoroki, are the best parts of the arc. Everything else is not as good as what came before or after.

I agree that the best parts of the arc are Bakugo, Uraraka, and Todoroki's character development because they, alongside Midoriya and Ida's own development, comprise the meat and heart of the arc. I suppose it's a matter of perspective, but personally, I've always enjoyed the developments between the fights in tournament arcs more interesting than fights themselves. My favorite material in the 22nd Tenkaichi Budokai in Dragon Ball are the scenes of Tenshinhan debating with Master Roshi and Tsuru-sennin about honor and morality, and Yusuke's training with Genkai and her encounter and history with Toguro are my favorite parts of the Dark Tournament. Of course, this character-building that happens outside the fights ends up paying off in the penultimate fights of those arcs, which is why Goku vs. Tenshinhan and the Dark Tournament matches are among my favorites in anime/manga.

I think the Sports Festival functions similarly, and I'd argue it has a more acute sense of focus than most tournament arcs I've seen. What I enjoyed most in the Sports Festival arc was the character development delivered in scenes outside the fights in the final third, such as Uraraka discussing how seeing Deku give his all has lit her own fighting spirit, Ida's obsession with impressing his family and living up to his brother's pedigree, and the centerpiece of the arc, Todoroki and his volatile relationship with his parents, his hatred and desire to become a hero without using his fire powers to spite his father, and how Midoriya ultimately forces him to confront how empty such a pursuit is, making him reconsider the kind of hero he wants to be, and consequently embracing both sides of himself becoming a stronger person for it. Most of this was explored during the scenes between the fights, and were payed off during the fights themselves to great emotional effect. I don't think it's coincidental that the only fights we see that last more than a few panels involve Midoriya, Todoroki, Bakugo, Uraraka, and Ida specifically. I think Horikoshi decided to specifically focus on those five characters during the arc, and consequently, the fights in the arc all work in service of their character arcs and development, which kept the pacing very tight and focused, and meaningful to the overall story. I think the majority of the fights involving those characters served a valuable narrative purpose, and more importantly, laid the foundation for pretty much everything involving those characters down the line, particularly in the Internship arc which succeeds it.

I feel using Kaminari's "fight" as an example of the arc's fights being "uninspired" is kind of a misleading example. Because that's not really presented as a fight - it's more of a gag. Kaminari wasn't a character who was given focus during the Sports Festival, nor was him as a character built up as important to the arc in any way. Neither his "fight" nor the character was meant to be focused on or considered in any meaningful capacity, except perhaps to establish and introduce his opponent and her quirk. Who, admittedly, hasn't been seen since that arc, making the scene kinda superfluous. But it's one of the few scenes in the arc that are, and using it as an example of how the fights in the arc are uninspired is akin to saying Tenten vs. Temari in the Chunin Exams or Chiaotzu vs. Tao Pai Pai in the 23rd Budokai are examples of how the fights in those respective arcs are uninspired. They can barely be considered fights because all we see of them are the outcomes, and aren't really representative of the quality of their arc's fights on the whole. And again, in regards to MHA, none of the fights that don't involve Midoriya, Todoroki, Bakugo, Uraraka, and Ida aren't emphasized, because they aren't integral to the core character development delivered in the arc. The only exception is Kirishima vs. Tetsutesu, which is interspersed with Uraraka's speech about how everyone is giving it their all and competing as rivals and she's determined to do the same, and the contrast of which strengthens the emotional intensity of Uraraka's conviction, giving the scene more power, as well as creating a energetic sense of flow that really builds up her confronting Bakugo at the end of the chapter. The way Horikoshi used that fight to manipulate the pacing and emotion of Uraraka's speech is incredibly cinematic, and I think the execution of that particular chapter is marvelously done from a structural standpoint. 

I don't expect to change any minds, but I wanted to defend aspects of the arc that I feel are being overlooked and glossed over. Ultimately, I think the way Horikoshi executed and focused the fights in the arc were all purposeful and meaningful in developing either the characters, creating levity, a sense of pace or tone, or otherwise laying the foundation for future character and narrative exploration that is payed off in later arcs. Compared to other tournament arcs, even ones in series I love, I think it's remarkably concise and purposeful in what it sets out to do with little padding or distracting extraneous elements. I think both the Obstacle Course and Human Calvary portions are a lot of fun and very creative, and while the fights wary in how visually impressive or memorable they are compared to some others in the series, they all played a role functionally, and the best provided a strong foundation that the story and character development has expanded on since, and Midoriya vs. Todoroki and Todoroki vs. Bakugo in particular are two of the most emotionally charged and powerful fights in the series so far. Whether you enjoy the execution is another matter, certainly, but in terms of it's narrative structure, character development, and impact on the story, I personally think the arc contains some of the strongest material in the series to date.

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 18, 2016, 03:10:44 PM
Those were during the Sports Festival arc, which I have said and still say is the weakest and most uninspired part of the series. I still strongly hold to that opinion. I was talking about how I disagree with people who insist that the manga is still a generic battle shonen for everything after that.

So yeah, nice try, but it doesn't work when you take my posts out of context.

Do I really need to overexplain everything? It's like if I leave out some obvious details you always somehow miss the point. :humhumhum:

::)

Regardless, as someone who's been an avid proponent of the series from the very beginning, and the only person on the board who seemed to be enthusiastic about it for quite some time, I'm very glad that so many people on here now have embraced it and consider it one of their favorite currently-running anime/manga.  ;D
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 18, 2016, 11:21:00 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 18, 2016, 09:36:43 PM
Hayate the Combat Butler is finally nearing the end. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-05-17/hayate-the-combat-butler-manga-story-approaches-climax/.102229)

I find it amazing it has run this long, honestly. It's not exactly the type of story that needs to run 50 volumes.

I enjoyed what I read of the series a long time back, so this seems like a good time to try and start it up again. Particularly if it could lend towards a good discussion piece or provide value towards a Shonen Sunday focused episode for Manga Mavericks.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 18, 2016, 11:28:54 PM
Hilarious that you'd drop an eyeroll after dumping a massive wall of text explaining your rebuttal. I'm not quite sure you understand how that gesture is supposed to work. :>
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 18, 2016, 11:47:49 PM
My issue is that the non-Todoroki, Midoriya, and Bakugo fights were ALL treated as comedy or glossed over. I don't expect every fight to be on the level Goku Vs. Jackie Chun or Tenshinhan, or Team Uremeshi Vs. Team Masho, but sometimes these sorts of fights are the only chances for certain characters to get any time to shine.

And using Temari Vs. Tenten is not the best example. That was Kishimoto being lazy. The anime fight was brief, but it showed something of both characters outside of just cutting straight to the end.

Yes, Kaminari's fight was treated as a joke, but like I said, that's part of my problem. I actually think one of Horikoshi's weak-point on the characters has been treating Kaminari like a punching bag. Let's face it, his quirk is overpowered and one of the best, as it was shone in the villain invasion arc, but since his first fight he has been as overlooked as Kirishima. And at least Kirishima is finally getting a chance to shine. Not that I don't think he won't eventually get some focus but, compared to Yaoyarozu, Kirishima, Mineta, Fumikage, Shoji, or, heck, even Aoyama, he hasn't gotten much of anything yet. And, yet, he's in the top ten of the official character poll.

At least Sero's loss came because of something plot related, and Kirishima and Tetsutetsu's fight was in the background of another scene. Kaminari was jobbed in a single panel by a character who has never reappeared again and who lost anyway.

Kaminari aside, I think the Sports Festival suffered because of Horikoshi's razor focus. A tournament setting is a chance to branch out and see characters aside from our mains and see how they're faring, cheer for the underdog, and see some surprising things from characters we wouldn't expect. While the character development of the main characters in this arc was great, it's about all I really enjoyed from the tournament. The fights were simply not very engaging compared to better material like DB, YYH, FoR, and, yeah, some of the fights in Naruto's Chuunin exams.

It's a good arc in a great series. That's all I can say.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 19, 2016, 12:10:55 AM
That's fair. I think it comes down to different preferences in what we wanted out of the arc. While I like MHA's ensemble cast, I generally prefer a tighter focus on a small group of characters, especially early on in a story, so the way the arc explored and progressed it's central characters and how the fights fit into that worked for me, and I appreciated how tight and purposeful the focus was. As far as personal biases go, I also admit that I'm not as interested in Kaminari compared to some others in MHA's supporting cast, so his fight being glossed over wasn't problematic for me, personally. Though he is indeed one of the characters Horikoshi could really stand to do more with, lest he ends up being the series' Tenten.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 20, 2016, 12:25:22 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #25 (May 23rd, 2016):

My Hero Academia (Cover, Lead CP)
One Piece (not ranked, was absent in ranked issue)
1 - Food Wars
Dragon Quest: Souten no Soura (CP, Special Chapter)
2 - Black Clover
3 - Kimetsu no Yaiba
Takuan and Batsu's Daily Demon Diary (CP)
4 - Haikyuu
5 - Samon the Summoner
6 - Gintama
7 - Hinomaru Zumou
8 - Yuna of Yuragi Manor
Hunter x Hunter (not ranked)
9 - The Disaster of PSI Kusuo Saiki
Chronicle of Isobe: Life is Hard (CP)
10 - World Trigger
11 - Toriko
12 - Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
13 - Kochikame
14 - Bleach
15 - Mononofu
16 - Nisekoi

Looks like Kimetsu's firmly hooked an audience, but this was a bad week for Mononofu and Straighten Up!. Hopefully they bounce back soon. In other news, World Trigger will finally be getting the cover again in issue #26. It's been a year since it's last had one, so it's been long overdue.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 20, 2016, 12:36:58 PM
Wow, KnY at #3! That's higher than Samon or Yuna ever got. I hope this gives it a chance to be picked up by Viz when Nisekoi ends.

Unfortunate for Mononofu, but this is probably a one chapter fluke. It's usually around the middle to the upper-middle. Straighten Up might be a bit worrying since it's been floating around #10-#12 for some time now.

And, finally for World Trigger! It's been about due for some color pages and the cover. I hope the rankings continue to hold and it is able to keep up its pace.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 23, 2016, 11:04:28 PM
The cover for this issue was awesome. Really dig that style.

Speaking of which, My Hero Academia was the best chapter again this week. It was one heck of a free for all, but it's next week I'm eager to see. All Might's at his limit and All For One doesn't seem to be done for the count just yet.

World Trigger focused on a flashback for Katori, but what it actually did was make me like Hana more. She made a tough decision and lost her family for it (though they were probably dead anyway) and appears to be a more thoughtful person than Katori. Katori just seems to have gotten more selfish over time and her team getting wiped out here proves she is taking this too lightly. Osamu and Kuga are not.

Of course Food Wars is still setting up the next arc, but it's been quite well done so far. I get the feeling this going to be a pretty big deal for the series. I also had fun with Black Clover.

So, yeah, my rankings are so obvious I shouldn't even list them. But Takuan & Batsu's second chapter was pretty bad. The author keeps focusing on the wrong aspects of this series. I don't think it's going to last very long.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 24, 2016, 08:52:30 PM
Yoshitoki Oima will be debuting her next manga this fall. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/05/24-1/silent-voice-author-teases-next-manga) According to the article "the currently unnamed series promises a heart wrenching perspective on "gentleness" and "serverity." Here's the teaser image:

(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg1.ak.crunchyroll.com%2Fi%2Fspire3%2F4c66b4dc1052461c0514f52119b6bd901464111579_full.jpg&hash=f7bdc2ab4dbe995add7656412619990c5baeec27)

The description is vague, so I'm not sure what it'll really be about, though I can make a few educated guesses based on this teaser. Regardless, A Silent Voice is one of my all time favorite manga and one of the best written stories I've ever read, so I'm confident that Oima will create another series that I'll really enjoy. Eagerly anticipating this.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 24, 2016, 09:02:29 PM
I'm really looking forward to this as well. I'd read just about anything that she writes.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 26, 2016, 10:46:07 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #26 (May 30th, 2016):

World Trigger (Cover, Lead CP)
1. One Piece
2. Black Clover
Gintama (CP)
3. My Hero Academia
4. Haikyuu!!
Food Wars (CP)
Takuan and Batsu's Daily Demon Diary (Not Ranked)
5. Hinomaru Zumou
6. The Disaster of Kusuo Saiki
7. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
Samon the Summoner (CP)
8. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
Hunter x Hunter (Not Ranked)
9. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
10. Mononofu
11. Kochikame
12. Bleach
13. Nisekoi
14. Toriko
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-

Better ranking for just about everyone in the bottom half this week. Straighten Up and Mononofu are going to have to come back a little harder, though.

Next week, Kimetsu no Yaiba gets color pages and Hinomaru Zumou gets the cover.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 26, 2016, 09:42:26 PM
Still hoping to resume After the Jump either this week or next, but I recently reviewed the first chapter of Boruto for All-Comic.com (http://all-comic.com/2016/boruto-naruto-next-generation-1/), in case anyone wanted to know my thoughts on that.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 26, 2016, 10:02:33 PM
You pretty much said what I thought, though I haven't seen the movie.

The art is just off enough for it to be very noticeable that its not Kishimoto doing it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 26, 2016, 10:40:08 PM
I'd recommend the movie as someone who is not a fan of Naruto. The manga so far is just an inferior version of that, which isn't to say that it's bad, but rather that the film was clearly the intended medium in which to tell this part of the story.

At any rate, Boruto and the Sarada mini-series are far and away the most genuinely interesting things to come out of this franchise in ages, if not since its very inception. There's a lot of potential here, and I'm honestly looking forward to seeing (and hoping for) success from this series in the future.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 27, 2016, 07:59:08 PM
Had to post this:

(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.shonenjump.com%2Fj%2Fcomics%2Fassets_c%2F2016%2F05%2Fmyhero009-thumb-400x635-3493.jpg&hash=9a721281f35761838d0581ed24c6448502aa9565)

MHA's art is so good.

EDIT: Also, since CX wanted to know Mimasaka's voice actor in Food Wars... (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/05/27-1/hiroki-yasumoto-set-to-join-food-wars-cast)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Markness on May 29, 2016, 12:40:27 PM
Really been loving the latest chapters of Nanatsu no Taizai. We'll be learning some of Meliodas's past in the next chapter.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 30, 2016, 10:30:49 AM
Damn! This chapter of MHA was great! I just love it when the stakes are high and the feeling of desperation reaches its peak. All Might is on his last legs, but still refuses to give up without a serious fight. And that was a pretty huge reveal. It puts a lot of things into perspective about Tomura's character and the legacy of All For One.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 30, 2016, 12:10:27 PM
MHA was so good. It's such a shame we have to wait a week between each chapter. All Might is one of my favorite characters in the series, and this chapter really solidified why. I wonder how exactly he's going to beat All For One now. This feels like the final battle for a feud we never got to see for ourselves. I hope at some point we get to see where Toshinori came from.

I'm a little disappointed Mikumo and Chika went down in World Trigger, but, hey, they still won. I was honestly pulling for Katori to get 0 points since they really didn't deserve any, but, oh well. Glad to see this match is over.

That was a cute chapter of Food Wars. It was good to see more of Soma's dad. I've also enjoyed seeing Erina a lot more since she hasn't been nearly as arrogant for a while now. I'm eager to see where the next arc will be going now.

Black Clover remains an enjoyable read. I have to say, Yami never fails to make me laugh. His lines and reactions are always so well-timed. It's still the most pleasant series to read every week, even if it isn't the best.

Great week.


I'm going to say one thing about One Piece. It seems like every chapter has more text than it does panels or events. By that I mean it doesn't let actions or silence speak for the characters: they're always talking all over the place either mouthing exposition or jokes. It's a bit of a chore to read, honestly. I do wish Oda could let it breath a bit.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 30, 2016, 01:09:41 PM
Another problem that Oda didn't have before the time-skip. On that note, I also feel that his art has gotten way too cluttered. It's overly-detailed to a fault, and a lot of times it's hard to tell what's going on in any given panel, even if it's not an action panel. I prefer the simplistic style that he used during the earlier years of the manga's run.

I still stand by the opinion that from Water Seven to the Whitebeard Saga, One Piece had one of the greatest runs in all of Shonen Jump's history, or at least from what I've read of the publication, and I will continue to stick to that opinion. Post time-skip One Piece honestly just doesn't do it for me, though. It's not bad or unreadable like Naruto and Bleach became, and it has its moments that I enjoy, but on the whole I honestly read it more out of obligation right now than out of genuinely wanting to see more and more like I used to. And I say this as a fan of One Piece. I do genuinely hope that Oda somehow brings this series back to the level of quality that it used to maintain on a weekly basis. And for as much as I bash on the current manga, I do still genuinely have faith in Oda's talent to win me over again. I'm just starting to get slightly impatient about waiting for him to do so.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 31, 2016, 07:07:47 PM
Japanese Top 30 selling manga series of the first half of 2016: (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-05-29/top-selling-manga-in-japan-by-series-2016/.102636)

1. One Piece by Eiichiro Oda (6,470,105)
2. Assassination Classroom by Yusei Matsui (4,391,966)
3. Attack on Titan by Hajime Isayama (4,370,941)
4. Haikyu!! by Haruichi Furudate (4,016,578)
5. Kingdom by Yasuhisa Hara (3,561,489)
6. The Seven Deadly Sins by Nakaba Suzuki (2,712,499)
7. One-Punch Man by Story: One / Art: Yuusuke Murata (2,553,331)
8. ERASED by Kei Sanbe (2,332,110)
9. Tokyo Ghoul:re by Sui Ishida (2,179,345)
10. My Hero Academia by Kohei Horikoshi (2,135,591)
11. Terra Formars by Story: Yu Sasuga / Art: Kenichi Tachibana (1,906,964)
12. Chihayafuru by Yuki Suetsugu (1,885,180)
13. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma by Story: Yuto Tsukuda / Art: Shun Saeki / Cooperation: Yuki Morisaki (1,756,603)
14. Detective Conan by Gosho Aoyama (1,612,080)
15. Orange by Ichigo Takano (1,604,284)
16. Fairy Tail by Hiro Mashima (1,534,636)
17. Gintama by Hideaki Sorachi (1,468,890)
18. Prison School by Akira Hiramoto (1,414,896)
19. Magi by Shinobu Ohtaka (1,340,330)
20. World Trigger by Daisuke Ashihara (1,254,621)
21. Seraph of the End: Vampire Reign by Storyboard: Daisuke Furuya / Story: Takaya Kagami / Art: Yamato Yamamoto (1,193,851)
22. Bleach by Tite Kubo (1,129,676)
23. Ajin by Gamon Sakurai (1,110,691)
24. Golden Kamuy by Satoru Noda (1,110,116)
25. Dagashi Kashi by Kotoyama (1,098,890)
26. JoJo's Bizarre Adventure by Hirohiko Araki (1,047,950)
27. I am a Hero by Kengo Hanazawa (982,923)
28. Major 2nd by Takuya Mitsuda (938,777)
29. Konodori by Yu Suzunoki (934,730)
30. Yotsuba&! by Kiyohiko Azuma (920,185)

My Hero Academia is starting its climb. Hopefully the anime will help it a good deal.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on May 31, 2016, 07:46:43 PM
Damn, Jojo cracked 1 million and My Hero Academia, Erased and One Punch Man cracked too? Me likey.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on May 31, 2016, 10:15:37 PM
I'm happy to see that Assassination Classroom sold very well in its final stretch.  :)

MHA will most likely rank even higher by the end of the year thanks to the boost from the anime.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 01, 2016, 06:41:51 PM
Rumiko Takahashi has a one shot coming out next week. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/05/30/rumiko-takahashis-new-one-shot-manga-to-be-released-next-week)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 02, 2016, 10:29:45 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #26 (June 6th, 2016):

Hinomaru Zumou (Cover, Lead CP)
1) My Hero Academia
2) One Piece
Boruto (CP)
3) The Disaster of Psi Kusuo Saiki
Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction (CP)
4) Black Clover
5) Food Wars! Shokugeki no Souma
6) Samon the Summoner
7) Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
8) Haikyuu!!
Takuan and Batsu's Daily Demon Diary (Not Ranked)
Hunter x Hunter (Not Ranked)
9) Yuna of Yuragi Manor
10) Mononofu
11) Kochikame
12) World Trigger
13) Gintama
14) Bleach
15) Toriko
16) Nisekoi
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-

Issue 28 Preview:

Cover, Lead CP: Haikyuu!!
CP: Black Clover, Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club, Yuna of Yuragi Manor

Straighten Up finally breaks out of the bottom. Mononofu still needs to push harder.

Also, seeing World Trigger's recent sales as Jump's sixth best selling series and its random rankings in this list each week has put me at ease with it. It'll be around for a while. Random dip for Haikyuu, though. It is almost never out of the top 4.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 02, 2016, 01:33:26 PM
Nice to see SU! start to rebound. Hopefully Mononofu climbs back up the ranks soon too. At least it's not in danger in the immediate future, since Toriko and Nisekoi are guaranteed to end before there becomes a need for something to be cancelled.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 06, 2016, 01:50:18 PM
All Might! If there's a single character I would like to see more of the past of in My Hero Academia, it is All Might. There's no question in my mind that this is the best series Jump has run in a long time. It just keeps getting better. Also good to see the other heroes show up to help. It was interesting to see what exactly motivated Endeavor to do what he did with Todoroki.

So Tamakoma-2 is up to rank 4 in the Rank Wars after their crushing victory. I do wonder if this is hinting at the Rank Wars finally nearing the end. There are only three teams above them as before, only this time they have a winning strategy that only needs more polish. Of course, if Chika used the cannon instead of the lead bullet at the end, she would have defeated Teruya and would not have been defeated. She still has to get past that. On the whole, though, I'm excited to see what this means for the team.

I like the contrast in Food Wars between the beginning of the series and now. It is the first time Erina has had Soma's cooking since the series started, and a good chance to show how far they've both come since then. I'm really eager to see where the next chapter takes it.

Black Clover has gotten a lot better with character development over the last few arcs since the invasion. By making it natural with the story and world-building, it comes across far more genuine and less forced. The Black Bulls are just fun to be around.

As for Seraph, well, Yu is still a dimwit.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 06, 2016, 03:26:25 PM
I do think that Black Clover may want to change things up a bit in the next arc. Every arc so far, without fail, has followed the same formula of Aster's friends being in trouble and him coming in to bail them out at the last second. Even if he's not the strongest person there, they've made it that any team battles can't be won unless his anti-magic is involved, and while that's OK for major battles since he's the main character, I feel like it robs the supporting characters of their dignity when he has to step in on their behalf in a set-up like this. I kind of wish that they had been allowed to carry out their original fights first before the big bad of this arc showed up, just to at least show the worth of the other Black Bull characters who haven't gotten as many chances to fight. It can get a bit too predictable when it always comes down to Aster saving his friends from an overpowered villain in the nick of time. And yes, I like how he's not always the one to defeat said villain, but still, I feel as though he's kind of being treated as a bit too overpowered for his own good given how little experience he still has at this point.

And I'm not suggesting something like Naruto or Bleach where the main character gets completely lost in the mix in favor of showing every battle for every supporting character. By all means, I like it when the main character is actually treated like the main character of the story. I'm only saying that it'd be great if the main character can also rely on his friends a bit more than it being the other way around.

This is also a problem that I had with Food Wars until the last few arcs in which the supporting cast was given a lot more to do other than lose to Soma or fill in time between Soma's matches. Thankfully it improved itself once Soma lost to Hayama in the AE Finals. Hopefully something similar happens in Black Clover.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 06, 2016, 06:14:18 PM
I found this old quote about North American Jump: (http://www.icv2.com/articles/news/24840.html)

QuoteWeekly Shonen Jump has traditionally been a superior incubator for new manga properties. What are some of the hot properties that Weekly Shonen Jump has developed recently that Americans may not be familiar with?

Many series have become popular from 2011 to 2012. There's Kuroko's Basketball, High Kyuu!!, The Disaster Of Psi Kusuo Saiki and Assassination Classroom. These series will not yet be distributed simultaneously for various reasons such as censorship and translation difficulty (for example, translating a gag manga without having anything being lost in the translation is extremely difficult). Also, for Shonen Jump in Japan, there are anywhere from ten to fifteen new series that start every year. As you say, this is both what is unique about Shonen Jump as well as its mission. For the simultaneous releases of Shonen Jump in English, we are thinking that we actively want to release new series from chapter one.
Viz has licensed three of these four series in the years since.

EDIT: Here's a list of some of the highest circulated manga (http://www.mangazenkan.com/ranking/books-circulation.html) out there. Though it is missing some, like Flame of Recca, it is pretty comprehensive.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 09, 2016, 10:06:04 AM
This week's ranking:

Haikyuu!! (Cover, Lead CP)
1. My Hero Academia
2. Gintama
Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club (CP)
3. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
4. Samon the Summoner
Black Clover (CP)
5. Food Wars! Shokugeki no Souma
6. Hunter x Hunter
Yuna of Yuragi Manor (CP)
7. Hinomaru Zumou
Fuzoroi no Bunshin-tachi (One Shot)
Takuan and Batsu's Daily Demon Diary (Not Ranked)
8. Mononofu
9. The Disaster of PSI Kusuo Saiki
10. Nisekoi
11. Kochikame
12. Toriko
13. Bleach
Isobe Isobee Monogatari

Yep, both World Trigger and One Piece were off this week. I hope Ashihara is okay, though I'm guessing it would have been ranked where the one shot was placed. On the other hand, it looks like the recent batch of new series were a success. Only Takuan and Batsu is an unknown, but the others all seem to have found a niche.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on June 12, 2016, 02:50:14 PM
Spoiler
So how long until having to constantly use up nen on rubber limbs takes its toll on Hisoka?
[close]
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 12, 2016, 03:15:23 PM
Well, I honestly can't think of too many times in the series where characters complained of "running low" on Nen. I tend to equate it more to something like Stands from JoJo's as opposed to Chakra from Naruto, in that conceptually it's treated more as an ability than as a quantifiable source of energy.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 13, 2016, 11:48:18 AM
Man, MHA is too good. That glare Stain gave All For One was too good. Now it looks like both All Might and All For One are tapped out of their quirks. Whatever happens next looks like it'll rely on Midoriya stopping Shigaraki.

Food Wars showed once more a good contrast between Erina and Soma. I particularly like that he chose a dish where the more expensive ingredients would be a step down. When it comes to food, the options are almost limitless as to what you can make. That's part of what makes this series fun to read. You get to see all kinds of crazy recipes and ingredients that are seemingly impossible, but actually exist. It was also good to see the two of them finally bury the hatchet. Great chapter.

One Punch Man was the best chapter in a while. There was quite a bit of good comedy, action, and character development here. That said, I do wish it came out more often.

Lastly, Black Clover was pretty good. It was nice to finally see an opponent Asta couldn't easily beat on his own. If the Eye of the Midnight Sun are going to be legitimate threats, he can't be beating them all so easily. On the other hand, I'm not seeing any way to beat this guy unless everybody works together to stop him. Should be fun to see how this ends.

Also, in HxH, did Hisoka just kill two members of the Spiders? Man, he's deadlier to them than Kurapika was. I guess this is a way of getting both them and Hisoka into the next arc since they were not in the Chimera Ant arc at all until near the end.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 13, 2016, 12:25:05 PM
I have to say, even though it came out of nowhere (which seems to have become part of Togashi's sporadic writing process ever since the Chimera Ant arc started over a decade ago), I'm liking this Hisoka Vs. The Spiders sub-arc much more than the mostly mundane and boring set-up that we got for the Dark Continent arc before this. It's interesting since they are all major villains of the series, yet none of them are protagonists, so you really can't tell what the outcome will be since both Hisoka and Chrollo seem far too important to be killed off by one another, yet in a battle between them, somebody has to come out the victor unless other parties interfere in the conflict (which is probably what will most likely happen). I have no idea where Togashi is going with this plot, nor how it will tie in to the Dark Continent arc (if Togashi even decides to tie them together, that is), but that's honestly what makes it interesting to me. It takes characters that I'm invested in and who we haven't seen in a while, and puts them in an interesting situation. That, to me, is when a series like HXH really shines.

Food Wars has been having some of its best material in a while for the past several weeks or so. I'm liking Erina's character development, though I'm not particularly fond of how learning of Soma's parentage seems to be what let her take him more seriously and give his cooking more of a chance. I would have preferred if he earned that completely by himself, and his parentage was revealed after the fact, but even so it's a really minor gripe. I really just like character redemption arcs, and right now Erina is going from being a spoiled and uptight elitist to being a more genuinely thoughtful and reasonable person. I'm assuming that she will end up joining the battle against Central in the next arc.

Black Clover was entertaining and I'm happy to see that Aster is in fact getting his ass handed to him really hard for once. And it makes sense given the much higher level of his opponent. I'm not really a fan of the one-dimensional villains who just throw insults to everyone else like they are some divine, elite beings. It's way too overplayed in this genre and just not really fun or interesting to see. It's a really cheap way to get people to root for the heroes to eventually overcome them and kick their ass, but when it becomes overdone you tend to see it as lazy character writing, like I do. That said, it looks like the rest of this fight will go down with Aster working with a team of other Magic Knights, so it could be a really cool battle if they implement interesting strategies into it like they did with the last major team battle in the series.

And finally we have the best currently running Weekly Shonen Jump manga (IMO). My Hero Academia continues to impress me with its nuanced characters and really ballsy plot turns. I love that this victory cost All Might his powers for good, and now even if he is there to give Midoriya advice, he can no longer physically protect and train him. I also love how the stage has been set-up for Shigaraki and Midoriya to be the new future heads of the villains and heroes in this series, respectively. They are each carrying on the wills of their predecessors, but have also lost a lot of the guidance that their mentors could previously provide for them, and now have to lead their own paths toward achieving what they want.

Overall, this was a great week for WSJ manga, or at least for the series that I follow.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 16, 2016, 11:20:25 AM
Kochikame is getting a new anime series! (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-06-16/kochikame-manga-gets-new-tv-anime-project-to-celebrate-40th-anniversary/.103286)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 16, 2016, 05:02:12 PM
This week's rankings:

One Piece (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Black Clover
2. My Hero Academia
Samon the Summoner (CP)
3. Food Wars! Shokugeki no Souma
4. Haikyuu!!
Nisekoi (CP)
5. Hinomaru Zumou
6. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
7. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
Takuan and Batsu's Daily Demon Diary (Not Ranked)
8. Hunter x Hunter
9. The Disaster of PSI Kusuo Saiki
10. Gintama
11. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
12. Kochikame
13. World Trigger
14. Mononofu
15. Toriko
16. Bleach
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-

Weekly Shonen Jump #30
Cover: Food Wars! Shokugeki no Souma, The Disaster of Psi Kusuo Saiki
Lead CP: Food Wars! Shokugeki no Souma
CP: The Disaster of Psi Kusuo Saiki, My Hero Academia

I'm not sure if HxH is being ranked yet or not. There haven't been any straightforward answers on that yet. Either way, that's not good for Yuna or Mononofu.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 16, 2016, 05:40:58 PM
HXH is literally ranked on this and the last list that you just posted. :D
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 16, 2016, 05:59:10 PM
Yeah, but I wrote not ranked on the others I posted because that's how they were originally given. Since then it's been mixed messages. For instance, I have to keep adding Not Ranked to Takuan and Batsu because they stopped labeling it despite the fact it's clearly not ranked yet.

It doesn't really matter either way. HxH's rankings don't make a difference since it already sells by the buckets.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 16, 2016, 09:54:10 PM
Nobuhiro Watsuki is working on a new manga. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2016-06-16/rurouni-kenshin-watsuki-working-on-secret-new-work/.103301)

No, it probably won't top RK, but there's no reason to not hope for the best anyway.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 16, 2016, 11:12:05 PM
Nobuhiro Watsuki seems to have lost his way after Kenshin. Clearly there's an extremely talented mangaka there, and perhaps he just needs the right editor or story set-up to filter his ideas through. His post-Kenshin works, while far from bad, have been rather middling in quality and seem to lack the same sort of drive and inspiration which he clearly possessed back when he was working on that series.

Despite RK being nearly two decades old now, I still genuinely hold out hope that we can see a return to form from Watsuki. I really do believe that he's capable of better.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 16, 2016, 11:25:01 PM
I do think it's a combination of inspiration, effort, and investment, that made Rurouni Kenshin so good. All you have to do is look at his other series to see where he failed (relatively failed, I mean) to reach the standards of RK.

Gun Blaze West was an inspired idea. A western gunfighter shonen had not been attempted before other than Trigun's first series. But he put no effort into it at all. He stated he made everything up week to week and it showed. As a result, he didn't really have any investment in it.

Buso Renkin clearly had effort put into it. Watsuki said he wanted to put everything he enjoyed about shonen into the work and it showed. But it had no inspiration at all. He put the effort in, as he did plot it out, but the lack of inspiration was a real hole in the series.

Embalming was a project he was clearly invested in. He built a world with all sorts of rules and lore. Some of his choices in character designs were even inspired. But the writing and plotting were simply not there. The series was a confusing mess that was clearly not plotted out and suffered for it.

Each series had different problems. Even his Meteor Strike one-shot was a really good idea that could have been great if he felt like focusing on it. To me, that shows he still has it since he has no consistent issue. The problem is that he hasn't landed on that one idea where he put in all the chips yet. I sincerely hope this new series is the one that does it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on June 17, 2016, 07:28:08 AM
Kochikame is getting a new TV anime to celebrate its 40th anniversary. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-06-16/kochikame-manga-gets-new-tv-anime-project-to-celebrate-40th-anniversary/.103286)
I'm hoping Crunchyroll or some other streaming service brings it over.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 16, 2016, 05:02:12 PM
I'm not sure if HxH is being ranked yet or not. There haven't been any straightforward answers on that yet. Either way, that's not good for Yuna or Mononofu.
I think HxH is being ranked now since we are past 7 chapters since its return.  It's a shame that Mononofu isn't doing so hot right now, but I'm holding out hope that it can recover.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Markness on June 19, 2016, 10:10:05 AM
The last few Nanatsu no Taizai chapters have been pretty intense. The way Ban broke Merascylla's neck was probably the most painful thing I've ever seen happen in a manga. Also, the way Estarossa stabbed all of Meliodas' hearts was pretty gut wrenching. Nakaba Suzuki really knows how to bring the pain in his mangas.

Now that the Ten Commandments have taken over Britannia, the series has taken a darker turn, almost Berserk-like. However, the fact Arthur and Nanashi are still fighting shows that there is some hope.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 20, 2016, 12:02:49 PM
Really strong week.

This chapter officially ends the current arc in MHA, and boy is it powerful. The series has been on a roll since the end of the sports festival and it hasn't let up yet. All Might is officially retired, the police and the heroes are making changes, and everyone else has to deal with the realization that an era is actually over. Hopefully he'll still mentor Midoriya and the rest of the students, but MHA is probably going to be very different from now on. And we still haven't hit the 100th chapter yet.

Food Wars was great. The usage of "show, don't tell" in regards to Erina reacting to Soma's cooking was very well done. It is clear that she enjoyed it, and it effected her decision, but they don't have to tell you that outright for you to get it.

Good reveals in World Trigger. Tamakoma-2 is a very balanced team, but it is true that they need another powerhouse to really push their combination forward. Hopefully when Hyuse joins, they can finally reach the end of this arc, win the rank wars, and we can move the story along. I really want to see an Aftokrator arc now.

Black Clover was more of a character episode, and it was fun for it. I do like the shift in Gauche's character from being completely unlikeable to being a more rounded character. Also, I did not expect Grey to look like that. Genuinely surprising.

On the other hand, this fight in Bleach is the kind of ridiculous that made me lose interest in the series. Pointlessly convoluted where no move or technique matters except the Deus Ex Machina move that Kubo wants to end the fight with.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 23, 2016, 10:20:19 AM
This weeks' ranking:

Food Wars! Shokugeki no Souma (Lead CP)
1. One Piece
2. Hinomaru Zumou
The Disaster of PSI Kusuo Saiki (CP)
3. Black Clover
4. Haikyuu!!
My Hero Academia (CP)
5. Samon the Summoner
6. Hunter x Hunter
Takuan and Batsu's Daily Demon Diary (Not Ranked)
7. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
8. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
9. Toriko
10. Mononofu
11. Kochikame
12. World Trigger
13. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
14. Bleach
15. Gintama
16. Nisekoi
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-

Next week I believe is Takuan & Batsu's first ranking, so that should be interesting to see. That's the highest Toriko has been in a while, but it's sad to see Straighten Up and World Trigger dipping low again. Things will probably reverse themselves soon, though. On the other hand, I've never read Hinomaru and yet it always ranks really well. The art looks good, but is the series?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 23, 2016, 11:10:27 AM
After the out of nowhere but welcome detour that was the Hisoka Vs. Chrollo fight and aftermath, it looks like Togashi finally jumped back into the Dark Continent arc, and as of the previous two chapters I'm definitely much more into it than I was before. With all of the overabundance of set-up out of the way, we can finally see Togashi do what he does best, which is to put his characters through unique, interesting, and desperate situations and see them work their way out of it.

In this case, now that the cruise has started, the members of the royal family in line for succession have obviously started to make their moves toward taking each other out, and with the prince and his mother who Kurapika is responsible for protecting having their guards (who were clearly given way too little information on the situation at hand) eliminated one after another, Kurapika (being the only person on her side who actually realizes what's going on) must find the culprits fast. First, however, he has to make sure that none of the men on his team are double-agents, which should make for an interesting scene in the next chapter.

I also like how the lower-class decks are realistically out of control with things like crime, disease, and famine, and in danger of rioting, which will be bad if Kurapika and the queen and prince have to escape and blend in over there in a crisis like he predicted that they might have to do if things go south up top (which they already have started to).

I love it when Togashi puts his characters into a real bind like this, and IMO this is some of the best material that he's brought to the table in years. I can't wait to see how the rest of the Voyage sub-arc progresses.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: The Shadow Gentleman on June 23, 2016, 01:11:02 PM
So after putting it off for many years, I've finally started taking a crack at Yotsuba. It's a very refreshing read compared to all the dark or intense stuff I've been reading lately. Really like the simple charm of it all.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 23, 2016, 09:08:18 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 23, 2016, 10:20:19 AM
I've never read Hinomaru and yet it always ranks really well. The art looks good, but is the series?

I enjoy it a lot myself. It has just about everything I like and enjoy in sports manga in terms of character development and rivalries, and the action sequences are really exciting and adrenaline-pumping. I really hope it gets a good anime one of these days, hopefully one on about the same level of quality as the Haikyuu!! anime, so it can get more exposure and licensed over here.

Quote from: The Shadow Gentleman on June 23, 2016, 01:11:02 PM
So after putting it off for many years, I've finally started taking a crack at Yotsuba. It's a very refreshing read compared to all the dark or intense stuff I've been reading lately. Really like the simple charm of it all.

Kiyohiko Azuma is a master of feel-good slice-of-life comedies. Yotsuba&! is easily his best work, and the unrivaled king of slice-of-life childhood manga stories. It's a series with such endearing charm and universal themes that it's almost unheard of to find someone who can't enjoy it in some capacity.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 25, 2016, 01:03:55 PM
You see, the past few weeks of MHA, and this chapter in particular, have done such a good job of showcasing what a great writer Horikoshi is. Yes, MHA unquestionably follows a standard enough shonen formula with its set-up. The All For One arc was about the group rescuing one of their friends who had been kidnapped, and about the old generations of heroes and villains having their final battle before passing the torch onto the new generation, our protagonists. Tons of shonen manga have done this. Naruto, One Piece, Hunter X Hunter, and various other popular shonen have all had their spins on this, and have done it in their own way that makes them stand out from one another despite essentially telling very similar stories with plot points like this. And whereas a lesser writer would feel like he's making a pale imitation of what those stories did to entice readers so much, Horikoshi knows how to make this very familiar story-line feel like his own in a way that stands up there with the iconic stories of those kinds of series rather than being lumped in with the less noteworthy stuff.

And how he manages to do it is simultaneously rather simple, yet takes a lot of skill as a writer to pull off. He lets you see how his characters, and his entire world for that matter, react to what has just happened. To explain what I mean, let's play out how this arc would have gone had a lesser writer handled it. The main plot points would all be the same, except when we got to the villains taking Bakugou, he actually would prove to be the shallow character that we all initially thought he was and he would be tempted by them. Then the whole hero ambush would take place, and despite it clearly going against orders, Midoriya and his friends would expose themselves and have a series of one-on-one fights, except only Midoriya's, and maybe Todoroki's, would feel like they mattered since one is the main character and the other is really popular among the readers. Midoriya would have a fight with Bakugou and then knock some sense into him. All Might would have his fight with the final boss, but there would be no stakes because after some struggle he'd pull out another epic attack and win. His secret wouldn't be exposed, people would cheer, and that would be the end of that, and everything would go back to status-quo with Bakugou returning with his friends to UA Academy. The kids' parents wouldn't even be mentioned in all of this. And there would be your problem right there. On its own it's not a bad story, but it would be woefully underwhelming due to a serious lack of stakes for readers to become invested in. For as much as I don't like the majority of Naruto as a series, I will at least give Kishimoto credit for using story arcs like this to dramatically alter the status-quo of his series and make it feel like actions had long-lasting consequences like with Sasuke becoming a villain and then staying that way until the end of the series. Granted, he handled it really poorly and it was insanely stupid to see him be forgiven for everything in the final two chapters LITERALLY right after turning heel AGAIN and trying to kill Naruto, but I'm starting to get off-topic here, so that's a rant for another day.

What I have particularly been enjoying about MHA over the past year, and especially in regard to the last several chapters, is how Horikoshi focuses on what affect the events which take place in his Universe have on his characters and story. Bakugou doesn't take the bait and join the villains' side because his character is far less simplistic than that. Midoriya and his friends don't idiotically expose themselves because they realize how stupid that would be when they are already walking on thin ice, and being found out by anyone other than All Might would mean instant expulsion for them. Both before and during this arc, Horikoshi brilliantly set-up how parents were concerned over the safety of their children due to recent events, how the media was taking this as an opportunity to crucify UA Academy, how the government was getting much more pushy and forceful toward trying to run things their way in order to instill more confidence in the regular citizens, and how All Might's health was still rapidly declining from the previous arcs and the time window with which he could hold his battle form was becoming increasingly narrower. We also got an understanding of how villains like Shigaraki and his master think, so we knew their motives going into this and that it would affect their own stakes in the battle as well. Get it? These are all reasons for us to be invested in the story and characters. These are all things that are subject to change, and thus serve as real consequences for what will happen based on how the events of the story arc play out.

And consider how this all ends. All Might and the other professional heroes win their battle against the villains, Bakugou is rescued by his peers, and All For One (the character) is captured and placed under arrest. Yet, in doing all of this, All Might has finally burned out the last embers of his ability to use All For One (the Quirk), and as Midoriya's mentor and father-figure, he can no longer provide any physical protection or training for him, but only serve as a guiding figure and adviser. And that's not all; his true form was exposed to the public as well. Now everyone knows that he has lost his abilities, and with his retirement he can no longer stand as the symbol of peace that inspired so much hope in the citizens of the world. And aside from just him, several top-level heroes have been severely injured and put out of commission. Meanwhile, Shigaraki is on the loose and has no shortage of villains who are willing to flock to his side now that so many heroes are out of the picture, so that whole defeat that he suffered at the end of this arc was barely even a set-back for him. On top of all of that, the government is in a panic on how to restore the people's faith in their ability to protect them, and all the while the staff of UA Academy must try their best to convince the parents of the students to allow their children to stay with them in their dorms and under their constant protection, even though they have failed to properly protect them in the past. And while they've had luck with several parents so far, Midoriya's mother is firmly against her son going back to UA Academy, and we as readers can actually find her thoughts completely reasonable. It feels very relatable when I could imagine my own parents doing the same thing in a situation like that. It's nice to know about how the kids' parents actually react to them being in constant danger (something that made Digimon Adventure and Tamers such stand-out series compared to other toyetic shonen anime), and it's even better to see how much they really do care about their children, which is something that so many other series ignore.

The heroes may have won a major battle, yet somehow they are losing the war and have been dealt several huge blows at once. Despite all of this, we still have a silver-lining of hope at the end with characters like Bakugou. Despite everything that happened in this arc, although it's subtle, you can tell in the scene with his mom and talking to All Might afterwards how he has changed somewhat in a positive way. He's perceptive to the relationship between All Might and Midoriya, and even though he looks up to All Might just as much, he doesn't show any jealousy or frustration, but instead thanks him for all that he has done. The old Bakugou never would have said that out loud, even if that's what he was feeling inside. When we have consequences, stakes, and developments like this, it's very easy to get invested in the outcome of everything that's going on in the series. The action and fight scenes are cool enough on their own, but when working in tandem with the characters, story, themes, and world which Horikoshi has set in place, all of a sudden the action is infused with meaning and feels like a natural part of the story itself, rather than the story feeling like it has been specifically structured to work around big action set-pieces.

As a writer, Horikoshi clearly isn't interested in maintaining a status-quo. He's interested in telling a story, and what's the point of telling a story if it doesn't change its characters in some way, or having characters if they don't affect the story in some way? Just like the best shonen mangaka from Osamu Tezuka to Yoshihiro Togashi, Horikoshi clearly understands this concept and applies it beautifully to MHA.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 27, 2016, 11:52:54 AM
Once again, MHA hits it out of the park. Awesome Brian the Sun reference. That ED song was so perfect for the anime. I'm going to miss it when season 2 rolls around. Bakugo's mom was hilarious. It says a lot about his personality why he is the way he is. His dad being so much like Midoriya probably proves just why he was ever friends with him in the first place. Speaking of Bakugo, he must know the truth about All Might's quirk and Midoriya by now, especially since he is the only student who knows it can be passed down. I also liked All Might's expression when he saw Midoriya's room. It was a small moment but it was very nice. But the biggest moment was with Midoriya's mom. All of her concerns are very valid and she has every right to be worried about her son. He has almost killed himself to save others multiple times by now. The only way for her to change her mind might be for her to learn the truth about where he really got his quirk from. She has been through a lot in this series, so she does deserve some sort of explanation.

But I also like where World Trigger is going. This whole chapter felt like a preview of what's to come in the next arc, and I really wish we could get there already. But we still need to see how Tamakoma-2 can get there to the end of the Rank Wars. It's funny that this chapter has the same sort of cliffhanger as MHA does. I definitely didn't expect that.

Food Wars was a fun set up for the next arc. I like how far Erina has come since the beginning of the series and how interesting this arc looks to be. Definitely am looking forward to next week.

Also I was glad to see Asta lose in Black Clover. He was due. This guy is on a level above any of them, and it seems they're going to need to work together to win this time. I always enjoy team up fights, so I do hope Tabata takes the story in that direction.

And special mention goes to HxH for turning the recent arc into a murder mystery starring Kurapika. I haven't been all that invested since it came back, but this chapter was enthralling. Other mention goes to Toriko: I have absolutely no idea what is happening at all. Also to Bleach: Deus Ex Machina the series, where literally anything can happen because Kubo wants it to.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 27, 2016, 12:02:42 PM
It's nice to see Noelle get the spotlight for once and she may even be the one to ultimately win this battle, which would be a nice change of pace. It's understandable to have the main character get more focus than the rest of the cast, obviously, but the story loses any sense of tension when every story arc features him as the deciding factor in any major conflict. Having him lose here doesn't take away from his previous accomplishments or make him seem like any less of a valuable character. On the contrary, it makes him feel more human and more relate-able, and it's something that more writers would realize in general. When a character is showing to be just as susceptible to defeat as any other character, then it actually makes their conflicts all the more engaging and it's easier to invest in their development since now there feels like their actions have actual weight and consequences to them.

A good example is how Luffy flat-out lost to Sir Crocodile twice before finally taking him down in the Alabasta arc. Had he beaten him right off the bat, the whole battle would have felt anticlimactic, but after decimating him in their final battle, it felt really rewarding to finally see him achieve that victory.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 27, 2016, 12:19:36 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 25, 2016, 01:03:55 PM
To explain what I mean, let's play out how this arc would have gone had a lesser writer handled it. The main plot points would all be the same, except when we got to the villains taking Bakugou, he actually would prove to be the shallow character that we all initially thought he was and he would be tempted by them. Then the whole hero ambush would take place, and despite it clearly going against orders, Midoriya and his friends would expose themselves and have a series of one-on-one fights, except only Midoriya's, and maybe Todoroki's, would feel like they mattered since one is the main character and the other is really popular among the readers. Midoriya would have a fight with Bakugou and then knock some sense into him. All Might would have his fight with the final boss, but there would be no stakes because after some struggle he'd pull out another epic attack and win. His secret wouldn't be exposed, people would cheer, and that would be the end of that, and everything would go back to status-quo with Bakugou returning with his friends to UA Academy. The kids' parents wouldn't even be mentioned in all of this. And there would be your problem right there. On its own it's not a bad story, but it would be woefully underwhelming due to a serious lack of stakes for readers to become invested in. For as much as I don't like the majority of Naruto as a series, I will at least give Kishimoto credit for using story arcs like this to dramatically alter the status-quo of his series and make it feel like actions had long-lasting consequences like with Sasuke becoming a villain and then staying that way until the end of the series. Granted, he handled it really poorly and it was insanely stupid to see him be forgiven for everything in the final two chapters LITERALLY right after turning heel AGAIN and trying to kill Naruto, but I'm starting to get off-topic here, so that's a rant for another day.
It's funny when people call MHA generic, because what you said here about this arc could apply to any of his previous arcs.

To add on to what you said, in lesser hands:

-All Might would have had some kind of pointless personality quirk like being a pervert or addicted to soap operas.
-Shigaraki would have been captured and forgotten after the villain invasion arc.
-Aizawa would be like he was in his first appearance all the time.
-Midoriya would have mastered his quirk by the finals of the Sports Festival.
-The finals would have been Midoriya Vs. Tokoroki and Midoriya would have won Todoroki over with a friendship speech and solved his problems.
-Bakugo would have lost to Midoriya in the semi-finals.
-Uraraka would have slid into the background after her fight and never would have brought up her loss again.
-Ida would have convinced Stain his worldview was wrong simply by standing up to him.
-Ida would learn his brother was okay after all.
-Todoroki, in general, would be mopey and depressing.
-Bakugo would still be loud, and would be an utter moron.
-Midoriya would still be a coward, and would need help to do anything short of tying his shoes.
-Ida would have learned nothing after Stain.
-Stain would have been beaten by someone like Endeavor showing up at the end to save them from his last attack.
-The Exam would have ended with Midoriya and Bakugo either actually beating up All Might or utterly losing to show they can't ever work together.
-Midoriya would have needed help to save Kouta.
-Bakugo would have joined the villains.
-Kirishima wouldn't have been in the Kamino Nightmare.
-Neither would Yaoyarozu.
-All Might would have died against All For One.
-The series would still be in the Sports Festival arc at chapter 100.
-The art would not have such a clear respect for shonen manga and superhero comics and it wouldn't be half as well done.

I think this series would only work if it was written by Kohei Horikoshi. That's what makes it rise above its simple premise into being such a great series. A lesser writer and artist would have either had their series canceled by now or would have been spinning their wheels.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 27, 2016, 06:22:45 PM
By the way, the color page for this chapter is pretty much a perfect picture for where the series is right now and where it's going next. Midoriya contrasted with All Might's current state in a place as simple as a park bench really just says it all.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on June 29, 2016, 11:18:34 AM
It's official, Blue Exorcist is getting a new anime. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/06/29/2017-blue-exorcist-tv-anime-announcement-spotted?utm_source=community&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=blue-exorcist)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 29, 2016, 09:10:14 PM
Catching up on this week's Jump, and I noticed this:

(https://66.media.tumblr.com/544c765e818713cc87ac2e2e240a2dd0/tumblr_o9kb5w4A3a1r6toezo1_400.jpg)

Methinks Togashi's been reading/watching Urusei Yatsura lately.  :sly:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on June 30, 2016, 01:18:16 AM
It looks like Hunter x Hunter is taking an indefinite break once again so that Togashi can resume his favorite series Hiatus x Hiatus. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-06-30/hunter-hunter-manga-goes-on-indefinite-hiatus/.103791)   :>
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 30, 2016, 08:53:45 AM
I believe that he literally just came out with enough chapters for a new volume so as to troll all of the book stores that decided to bundle the first 32 volumes as a complete series set. :>
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 30, 2016, 10:10:28 AM
In other long running manga news:

Bleach is near the end! (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-06-30/tite-kubo-bleach-manga-nears-ending/.103789)

Looks like there'll be three open slots in Jump soon enough.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 30, 2016, 10:49:40 AM
I've been hearing that Bleach is near the end over and over and over and over again for years now. I'll believe it when it's actually done and forgotten about.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on June 30, 2016, 10:55:31 AM
Considering that the current batch of Bleach chapters are literally titled "THE END #", I'm taking it as a good sign that we're near the end.  It's going to be interesting to see what Viz will replace Nisekoi, Bleach, and Toriko with.  One of them will surely be Haikyuu but the other two could be almost anything.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 30, 2016, 03:19:44 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #31 (July 4th, 2016):
The Disastrous Life of Saiki K. (Lead CP)
1. My Hero Academia
2. One Piece
3. Black Clover
4. Hunter x Hunter
Gintama (CP)
5. Haikyuu!!
6. Food Wars! Shokugeki no Souma
Koro-Sensei Q! (CP, Special Chapter)
7. Hinomaru Zumou
8. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
9. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
10. Samon the Summoner
11. Takuan and Batsu's Daily Demon Diary
12. Bleach
13. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
14. World Trigger
15. Kochikame
16. Mononofu
17. Nisekoi
18. Toriko
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-

Mononofu is in real trouble. I'm not sure what that means for Takuan and Batsu, since the first chapter was better than its follow up chapters, but it's not the best first ranking regardless. Nisekoi better do everyone a favor and end soon.

As for Bleach, it's clearly nearing the end. Right now Ichigo is in the final fight which will probably last a while, but after that Kubo will probably just wrap up the loose ends. It's a real mess.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Rynnec on June 30, 2016, 04:07:20 PM
Bleach may have an inevitably rushed conclusion, but it'll be nowhere near as stupid, pretentious, and nonsensical and Naruto's final arc and ending.

And that'll be the one thing most crappy shounen can take solace in. :sly:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 30, 2016, 04:14:20 PM
So, it's clear that the groups in the first phase of the Promotion Exams are fixed in regard to grouping the rebels against Central together and then giving them low quality main ingredients so that they are at a clear disadvantage. However, since it's clearly fixed anyways, what idiot's bright idea was it to make a group where four out of its five members were in the Autumn Election tournament's top eight? If you also factor in that Ryou is an expert on fish and you give them the ability to go out and get their own fish if they are dissatisfied with what they've been given, then no shit they are going to find a way to pass that phase of the exam. What they really should have done is to organize the teams in such a way that only one or two of the stronger members are paired up with the weaker ones, giving each of them less of a chance to come up with an amazing dish and thus increasing the possibility of eliminating more rebels right off the bat.

Of course, it's kind of the nature of this series to write things out in ways that are both disadvantageous yet also oddly convenient for the protagonists, so I'm not surprised by that. I have generally enjoyed what we've been getting lately, and still do. I just have to be honest in that I never liked Azami as a villain and don't care for any of his faction either, except for maybe Eishi who seems to potentially have a bit more nuance to his character. Azami to me is the Akashi of his series, in that he's a moustache-twirling one-dimensional villain to such an absurd degree that it's impossible to take him seriously, except we are supposed to take him and his supporters seriously. My gripe is that while I don't expect my shonen series' to be the most logical in their stories, the character motivations at the very least should make sense and line up with their actions. I hold any sort of fiction that isn't simply flat-out comedy to those standards. Azami as a character fundamentally doesn't make any sense. His goal at first seemed to be to convince everyone that his way of cooking was the only one definitive way of cooking. It's overly simplistic and unrealistic, sure, but it fits the tone of this series well enough and I could buy that on its own.

However, why then do the Elite Ten support him? Isn't the whole point of being in the Elite Ten to possess a huge level of authority, power, and resources despite being a student? It's specifically stated that the E10 members are given nearly unlimited funding to conduct their research and develop their cooking formulas and techniques. Those are things that mean experimentation and generally follows the concept that nothing is ever perfect and you can always come up with new foods and improve other dishes. Apparently only three (or I guess four, now) members of the E10 actually even remember that, since the rest unquestionably support Azami. However, if they support him that means that they must follow his ideals, and following his ideals SHOULD essentially mean that they are abandoning their own individual, unique ways of cooking by blindly following in his footsteps. Yet none of this is ever touched upon, and I believe the reason for that is because Saeki Shun knows that it doesn't really make any sense if you think about it too much. Also for that matter, isn't having to resort to cheap tricks like rigging judges or purposefully giving any rebels extremely disadvantageous circumstances to work under basically flat-out admitting that Azami's methods are NOT definitive after all? I mean, if they were, then they wouldn't need to do anything and his followers would prove themselves by defeating all rebels on an even playing field. Instead they flat-out resort to tactics that all but outright say "teehee, we're clearly the villains".

I can certainly understand one-dimensional villains who are portrayed as pretty much pure evil in stories like this under a different context. Like, in Yakitate!! Japan, Yukino is a one-dimensional villain, but being that she's comically portrayed as someone who's bat-shit insane, and that the people who work for her really only do it for either a paycheck or because she tricks them into being on her side, she has a role that makes sense as a character. It also helps that we're clearly meant to laugh at a lot of her antics that don't directly involve emotionally screwing with the main characters. In Azami's case though, much like Akashi from KnB, he comes off as a guy who clearly thinks that he's superior to everyone else, which is fine in and of itself, but that alone doesn't serve as a strong enough motivation for him to be the main villain of the series (or at least this saga of the manga if it continues on past this point). Even at this point in the story, I still don't have a satisfactory explanation as to why he was so pissed off about the state of cooking in Tootsuki and Japan in general, and felt the need to step in himself. And I don't understand why anyone in their right minds, even other villains in the series whose logic clearly didn't line up with his before this arc, are declaring for him as their supreme leader.

For all that I just ranted, it probably seems like I hate the current run of the series, but as I've said above and as I've expressed in earlier posts, I'm actually rather enjoying it. I wouldn't spend so much time critiquing one of its flaws (IMO) if I didn't care about the series at all. You can still complain about something while also liking it on the whole (which is pretty much what I've been doing for the last two seasons of Game of Thrones). I just wanted to really get out my full thoughts on why I personally just can't stand Azami. The other stuff in this saga that doesn't directly deal with him is mostly very good. It's just him as a character that I flat-out can't stand, and even though we're supposed to hate him in the context of the story, I'm hating on him for totally different reasons than the ones intended.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 30, 2016, 04:28:33 PM
Quote from: Rynnec on June 30, 2016, 04:07:20 PMBleach may have an inevitably rushed conclusion, but it'll be nowhere near as stupid, pretentious, and nonsensical and Naruto's final arc and ending.

And that'll be the one thing most crappy shounen can take solace in. :sly:

Yes, but at least Naruto's final arc was unintentionally hilarious, which made it strangely entertaining for all of the wrong reasons. Bleach has had its moments of being so stupid that it's funny, but its mostly just stupid to the point that it was a pain to even keep up with on a weekly basis.

Essentially, both series are garbage, but it's at least more fun to rip apart Kishimoto's shitty writing than it is for Kubo's.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 30, 2016, 04:33:23 PM
I read the first four chapters of Hinomaru Sumo, just to get a taste for it. Man, that is the manliest thing I've read in a while. It's got elements of sports, fighting, and delinquent manga, going for it and the first few chapters established two of the main characters really well. The first chapter isn't very original, but it does hit all the right marks. I can easily see why readers of Jump attached themselves to it. Shame it doesn't sell that great, though.

I hope this gets an anime so the manga can get an NA release some day.

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 30, 2016, 04:28:33 PM
Quote from: Rynnec on June 30, 2016, 04:07:20 PMBleach may have an inevitably rushed conclusion, but it'll be nowhere near as stupid, pretentious, and nonsensical and Naruto's final arc and ending.

And that'll be the one thing most crappy shounen can take solace in. :sly:

Yes, but at least Naruto's final arc was unintentionally hilarious, which made it strangely entertaining for all of the wrong reasons. Bleach has had its moments of being so stupid that it's funny, but its mostly just stupid to the point that it was a pain to even keep up with on a weekly basis.

Essentially, both series are garbage, but it's at least more fun to rip apart Kishimoto's shitty writing than it is for Kubo's.
If the rumors about the next chapter are true, Kubo might have just slid into Kishimoto tier.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on June 30, 2016, 04:42:52 PM
I really need to check out more of Hinomaru Sumo at some point.  It seems much more up my alley than Haikyuu or Kuroko's Basketball.

I'd say that Bleach's final arc is far worse than Naruto's (though both are still very bad).  Honestly, if Bleach's chapters weren't so quick to read, I would have dropped it ages ago.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 30, 2016, 11:14:04 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 30, 2016, 04:33:23 PM
I read the first four chapters of Hinomaru Sumo, just to get a taste for it. Man, that is the manliest thing I've read in a while. It's got elements of sports, fighting, and delinquent manga, going for it and the first few chapters established two of the main characters really well. The first chapter isn't very original, but it does hit all the right marks. I can easily see why readers of Jump attached themselves to it. Shame it doesn't sell that great, though.

I hope this gets an anime so the manga can get an NA release some day.

I've said it before, but Hinomaru Zumo really is a great and seriously underrated sports series, the best Jump's run in a while. It really needs an anime to boost it's popularity, because in an ideal world it'd be getting as much or more love than Haikyuu does.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 30, 2016, 04:33:23 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 30, 2016, 04:28:33 PM
Quote from: Rynnec on June 30, 2016, 04:07:20 PMBleach may have an inevitably rushed conclusion, but it'll be nowhere near as stupid, pretentious, and nonsensical and Naruto's final arc and ending.

And that'll be the one thing most crappy shounen can take solace in. :sly:

Yes, but at least Naruto's final arc was unintentionally hilarious, which made it strangely entertaining for all of the wrong reasons. Bleach has had its moments of being so stupid that it's funny, but its mostly just stupid to the point that it was a pain to even keep up with on a weekly basis.

Essentially, both series are garbage, but it's at least more fun to rip apart Kishimoto's shitty writing than it is for Kubo's.
If the rumors about the next chapter are true, Kubo might have just slid into Kishimoto tier.
Idk, I think structurally and cohesively the Thousand Year Blood War is a much worse arc than the Shinobi War as a whole, even when factoring in the Kaguya twist. Though there's not much point in comparing the two, since they're both ridiculously bad.

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 30, 2016, 04:14:20 PM
Azami as a character fundamentally doesn't make any sense. His goal at first seemed to be to convince everyone that his way of cooking was the only one definitive way of cooking. It's overly simplistic and unrealistic, sure, but it fits the tone of this series well enough and I could buy that on its own.

However, why then do the Elite Ten support him? Isn't the whole point of being in the Elite Ten to possess a huge level of authority, power, and resources despite being a student? It's specifically stated that the E10 members are given nearly unlimited funding to conduct their research and develop their cooking formulas and techniques. Those are things that mean experimentation and generally follows the concept that nothing is ever perfect and you can always come up with new foods and improve other dishes. Apparently only three (or I guess four, now) members of the E10 actually even remember that, since the rest unquestionably support Azami. However, if they support him that means that they must follow his ideals, and following his ideals SHOULD essentially mean that they are abandoning their own individual, unique ways of cooking by blindly following in his footsteps. Yet none of this is ever touched upon, and I believe the reason for that is because Saeki Shun knows that it doesn't really make any sense if you think about it too much.

That's a bit of an over simplification. Azami's motives were explained during Eishii and Soma's shokugeki a while back. Azami doesn't simply believe "his way of cooking is the only way of cooking;" his goal is to foster what he consider to be true gourmet cuisine in Japan created by the elite catered for the elite. He took over Totsuki to indoctrinate it's student population in his philosophy, as Totsuki's graduates will eventually form the backbone of Japan's culinary culture. As more students practicing his philosophy of gourmet cooking graduate, his influence over japanese culinary society as a whole will grow, allowing him the connections and authority to shut down what he considers to be "inferior restaurants" - basically, any restaurant that caters quality food to the masses like Yukihira's shop. Azami wants chefs to cater to a very specific audience and so-called refined tastes. He isn't limiting students' creativity because he thinks only one way of cooking is right, but because he believes there's only one purpose in cooking; the artistic evolution of the craft. He means to indoctrinate students in this personal philosophy of "by the elite, for the elite" by forcing all students to learn and practice gourmet cooking, making it impossible to survive in the culinary world and become a chef in Japan without adhering to his values. The council of ten are loyal to Azami because they believe in his "by the elite, for the elite" philosophy and Azami recognizes their skills and specialties as valuable, ensuring them a place in his new culinary order. And while Azami is ostensibly their leader, they're really more of a collective who all share the same goal of elevating Japan's culinary quality and their own cooking to a higher level by serving and refining only their variations of gourmet style cooking and disposing of those who would serve so-called inferior dishes to so-called inferior customers.

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 30, 2016, 04:14:20 PM
Also for that matter, isn't having to resort to cheap tricks like rigging judges or purposefully giving any rebels extremely disadvantageous circumstances to work under basically flat-out admitting that Azami's methods are NOT definitive after all? I mean, if they were, then they wouldn't need to do anything and his followers would prove themselves by defeating all rebels on an even playing field. Instead they flat-out resort to tactics that all but outright say "teehee, we're clearly the villains".

While Azami thinks that his way of cooking is inherently superior in purpose and functionality, it's been made clear that he's being so cautionary because he knows it isn't totally infallible. Because of his own experiences as a student and meeting people like Soma's father, he knows there are talented chefs in the world and at Totsuki who don't agree with his philosophy, hence why he's trying to weed them out and prevent people like them from entering the industry entirely. Fixing the shokugekis was intended as a means of demoralizing the student population and discouraging resistance to Central. After that backfired when Soma beat Eizen because the judges found his dish so genuinely better, Azami recognized that Soma and co. could indeed have the skills to undermine him (and stated as much when he visited Polaris, though his other intention was to undermine their confidence), hence why he's put the characters associated with him in disadvantageous circumstances. Remember that we've also seen Azami visibly frustrated by the student resistance, biting his thumb in anger after Alice publicly decried him. It's clear that he's not so overconfident in his cooking philosophy that a potential threat to his plans doesn't concern him, and it's obvious why he would want to nip respected and skilled chefs and dissenters like Soma and Alice in the bud before they inspire more of a following to resist him.

Ultimately, the reason Soma and co. specifically have been singled out is less because Azami thinks their style of cooking isn't good enough, but rather because their backgrounds and philosophies on cooking are in direct conflict with his. Soma, Megumi, and the Takumi Bros. for instance all come from local family shops that believe in serving good food to everyone. If Azami had his way, their restaurants would all be shut down and they would be forced to work in specific institutions with strict menus and specific cuisines catered to the rich and powerful or else not be able to be chefs at all, and the threat of that is what's spurred the characters and Soma and particular into action against him. In addition, from what we've been able to gleam, Azami once respected Soma's father's talents as a chef, but he despises his attitude and beliefs on cooking, considering it a waste of his talents to serve to commoners when he could be creating more artful dishes for refined palettes. This consequently seems to have influenced his hatred of "inferior restaurants" and why he wants to shut them down so badly - even more so then his beliefs, it's to spite Soma's father for "betraying" him.

Though Azami isn't quite yet a fully realized character in of himself, since outside of subtext involving his relationship with Soma's father we don't have enough context to really understand the "why" of who he is and what motivates him, he's nonetheless an incredibly effective and believable threat and presence in the context of the series. Not only does his personal philosophy of "by the elite, for the elite" threaten virtually every one of the protagonists in some way because of their backgrounds and personal experiences, he expedites and finalizes powerful character growth in Erina (who's character arc has really been developing to the point it is now gradually since early on in the series), and creates compelling grudges with both Alice and Soma. He might be better conceptually than in characterization, but the effect he's had on the series and engineering more personal explorations of the characters and themes has benefited it very well and really came at the right time to take it to the next level after the Culture Festival. And I think that's ultimately the difference between an antagonist like Azami and one like Akashi. Though they are both ostensibly cartoonishly evil and over-the-top in their methods, the stakes created in Food Wars! are much clearer, more dire, and more personal with Azami. In KnB, the worst thing Akashi could really do is make them lose a game and prevent the third-years from winning their last high-school basket ball tournament (or try to stab their eyes out with scissors...I still hate that scene). In FW!, Azami's presence and machinations threatens the characters' own livelihoods, their lifelong careers, and their very homes. Even though the character himself might verge on the edge of ridiculousness at points with his "senpai notice me" influenced motives, the fact that he can or could potentially destroy everything on which the characters define themselves, who they are, makes him a potent and credible antagonistic force in the context of the series, at least for me personally.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 01, 2016, 12:36:37 AM
Quote from: LumRanmaYasha on June 30, 2016, 11:14:04 PMThat's a bit of an over simplification. Azami's motives were explained during Eishii and Soma's shokugeki a while back. Azami doesn't simply believe "his way of cooking is the only way of cooking;" his goal is to foster what he consider to be true gourmet cuisine in Japan created by the elite catered for the elite.

Here's why I have a hard time accepting that logic. In his first appearance, during the Food Festival arc where he crashed Erina's set-up, several of the so-called Elites of the cullinary world were there, and he insulted them like trash right to their faces. Whether they are chefs or not, several of those people were highly wealthy and influential people who owned highly esteemed businesses that were associated with Tootsuki. Why exactly would he do that to other elites and then later go on to say that he wanted Japan's general cuisine to be run by only elites? I'm not oversimplifying it either. Wanting to spread one's influence and control over an entire field because of their elitism is a pretty shallow motivation in and of itself.

QuoteHe isn't limiting students' creativity because he thinks only one way of cooking is right, but because he believes there's only one purpose in cooking; the artistic evolution of the craft. He means to indoctrinate students in this personal philosophy of "by the elite, for the elite" by forcing all students to learn and practice gourmet cooking, making it impossible to survive in the culinary world and become a chef in Japan without adhering to his values.

This would make sense if (ignoring his outburst during his first appearance) his ambitions were to reform Tootsuki's methods of teaching and values in regard to cooking. Changing the culinary world of the elites is one thing. However if his goal is to reform all of cooking in Japan in general, even to the extent that it affects common people, then his plans flat-out make no sense because his cooking involves high-quality, expensive ingredients as a necessity. There's no possible way to make that something that a whole country would have to adhere to. And yes, while this series is clearly not wrapped up in being too realistic, it has established a certain basis in some sort of believable reality to the extent in which a plan like this is far too absurd even by this manga's standards. If Azami's goal was instead to reform just the school itself to only cater to high-class tastes, that would make perfect sense. But when he incorporates everyday people into the mix who have nothing to do with Tootuski and are of a far different financial and social class, it just feels like the villain equivalent of "take over the world" territory, which even for the over-the-top characters in this series is pushing it too much in terms of silliness, IMO.

QuoteThe council of ten are loyal to Azami because they believe in his "by the elite, for the elite" philosophy and Azami recognizes their skills and specialties as valuable, ensuring them a place in his new culinary order. And while Azami is ostensibly their leader, they're really more of a collective who all share the same goal of elevating Japan's culinary quality and their own cooking to a higher level by serving and refining only their variations of gourmet style cooking and disposing of those who would serve so-called inferior dishes to so-called inferior customers.

I'd be fine with this explanation if it was actually mentioned in the series by one of the elites. Instead the matter is never brought up. It would have been perfect if we got this explanation from someone like Kuuga about why he left since he does clearly like to cater to the masses, but we didn't. It would also work if after Eishi's lecture, Soma brought up the question about why he supports a guy who limits students' creativity and Eishi corrects his line of thinking by saying that Azami at least puts trust in those high-level members of Central who's cooking he deems to be truly gourmet. However, nowhere in the series so far is anything you just said actually mentioned. You have to stretch and make the assumption, and while it's not a bad assumption, it still isn't a reason that Azami himself nor any of his supporters have given.

QuoteWhile Azami thinks that his way of cooking is inherently superior in purpose and functionality, it's been made clear that he's being so cautionary because he knows it isn't totally infallible. Because of his own experiences as a student and meeting people like Soma's father, he knows there are talented chefs in the world and at Totsuki who don't agree with his philosophy, hence why he's trying to weed them out and prevent people like them from entering the industry entirely.

Alright, see, that's what I'm talking about. You just said it. He KNOWS that there are other talented chefs out there (as in, people who he himself deems talented, as evidenced by how highly he spoke of Saiba) whose philosophy contrasts his own, and thus it stands to reason that he knows that they could make delicious food while retaining artistic value despite not always relying on gourmet ingredients. This would mean that he is essentially aware that they are living proof that his philosophy is inherently flawed in its logic, as the food that they make has also satisfied several members of the elite culinary society. And the fact that he is supposedly speaking for the elite society, even though a large portion of that society does appreciate high-quality food made with lower-tier ingredients and more unorthodox cooking techniques, really contradicts his goal of catering to the elite. This is especially true when you factor in that Erina as a character was already doing that to begin with before he appeared, as were various other characters who were initially antagonistic towards Soma. He even fought and defeated Nikumi (I'm failing to recall her real name ATM) early on in the series who basically went against him at the same angle of high-quality ingredients versus plebian food. Even if I accept Azami's motivation for what it supposedly is, it's ultimately a redundant one as other characters already fulfilled that role beforehand. The only difference is that Azami is going about it on a much larger scale than any of them had the means or ambition to attempt.

QuoteFixing the shokugekis was intended as a means of demoralizing the student population and discouraging resistance to Central.

I should have been more clear on my point with this one. While I do still feel that Azami, or at least some of his followers, should feel that using such tactics disproves their philosophy and makes them look weak, what I had a bigger problem with is the lack of reaction to this from other students who weren't yet on the side of either Central or the rebels. I mean, yes, people were disheartened by it, naturally, but the sort of reaction that I was talking about is in instigating many more people to go against Azami. If you take a moment to think about how people would normally react to a practice like this, many would call it out for the BS that it was. If Central was relying on rigged matches to put down any resistance, then naturally people would use it as ammo against them to argue that their ideals are fundamentally broken apart if they can't win matches under normal means. When nobody brought this up after that arc had concluded, it made Azami look like he was being an ass for the sake of it (although I suppose you could pin it on Eizen since rigging the judging panel was his idea, though Azami's still the one who OK'ed it), and the people against Central look like idiots for not using that as a strong argument to rally more people against Central.

My ultimate issue with this, though, is that it basically doesn't feel like any of Azami's failed attempts at weeding out the rebels actually have any consequences against him, which ultimately makes him less interesting as a villain. One of the reasons that I've been praising a series like MHA so much lately is because Horikoshi actually goes out of his way to show us how the world which his characters inhabit react to the major events which go down there, either involving the heroes or the villains. This in turn makes both the story and the characters feel all the more fully realized and interesting. Azami and his faction, to me, fundamentally lack that same appeal due to not really having had to suffer any serious consequences for defeat so far.

QuoteAfter that backfired when Soma beat Eizen because the judges found his dish so genuinely better, Azami recognized that Soma and co. could indeed have the skills to undermine him (and stated as much when he visited Polaris, though his other intention was to undermine their confidence), hence why he's put the characters associated with him in disadvantageous circumstances. Remember that we've also seen Azami visibly frustrated by the student resistance, biting his thumb in anger after Alice publicly decried him. It's clear that he's not so overconfident in his cooking philosophy that a potential threat to his plans doesn't concern him, and it's obvious why he would want to nip respected and skilled chefs and dissenters like Soma and Alice in the bud before they inspire more of a following to resist him.

Basically my response to this would largely consist of what I said above. It's good enough reasoning on its own, but either it doesn't actually come up in the series, or if it does, it's very understated to a fault. Azami being visually frustrated by Alice publicly humiliating him was one of his best character moments. But where were his reactions to stuff like Eizen being defeated despite having a rigged judging panel on his side? And if more people, including some elites which would only be natural, started questioning his logic and if he's fit to lead Tootsuki Academy, and we got to see his reaction to that, it could serve to humanize him a bit and make him a little more nuanced. I find villains, even simplistic ones, are often more interesting when at least some aspect of their character feels at least a little realistic. Even if they are over the top, it still works when characters exhibit some relate-able human traits.

QuoteUltimately, the reason Soma and co. specifically have been singled out is less because Azami thinks their style of cooking isn't good enough, but rather because their backgrounds and philosophies on cooking are in direct conflict with his. Soma, Megumi, and the Takumi Bros. for instance all come from local family shops that believe in serving good food to everyone. If Azami had his way, their restaurants would all be shut down and they would be forced to work in specific institutions with strict menus and specific cuisines catered to the rich and powerful or else not be able to be chefs at all, and the threat of that is what's spurred the characters and Soma and particular into action against him.

This is also an issue because Azami hasn't actually given us any reasons whatsoever as to why he believes that anyone who's not rich doesn't deserve to eat (and that's literally what his plan is, apparently, going by what you yourself just said). That's why I say that my criticism of Azami is absolutely not an oversimplification. What you just said highlights how incredibly shallow and simple-minded his ideals are. But I'm also not sure if what you said is exactly the correct interpretation of his plans, because unless it was a mis-translation, he made it seem like food should be catered to the elites and that commoners should partake in only the foods that the elites approve of; not that commoners should starve to death because he doesn't believe that people with less money don't deserve to be fed. And if that really is what he believes in as you claim, then I ask this: even if it makes his motivation clear, isn't that arguably one of the dumbest, most cartoonishly one-dimensionally evil goals that a character can have? It's not good when your main villain and his supporters have ambitions that lack any sort of common sense.

QuoteIn addition, from what we've been able to gleam, Azami once respected Soma's father's talents as a chef, but he despises his attitude and beliefs on cooking, considering it a waste of his talents to serve to commoners when he could be creating more artful dishes for refined palettes. This consequently seems to have influenced his hatred of "inferior restaurants" and why he wants to shut them down so badly - even more so then his beliefs, it's to spite Soma's father for "betraying" him.

That's interesting if true, but where did you read that? Maybe I need to go back if I missed it, but I don't ever recall him expressing animosity towards Soma's father or saying that he betrayed him. He said that he respected him in his youth and hinted that he felt that Tootsuki ruined him, but even then he never expressed any direct disrespect towards Soma's father from what I can recall, and I never heard him mention that Saiba's talents were being wasted.

QuoteThough Azami isn't quite yet a fully realized character in of himself, since outside of subtext involving his relationship with Soma's father we don't have enough context to really understand the "why" of who he is and what motivates him, he's nonetheless an incredibly effective and believable threat and presence in the context of the series. Not only does his personal philosophy of "by the elite, for the elite" threaten virtually every one of the protagonists in some way because of their backgrounds and personal experiences, he expedites and finalizes powerful character growth in Erina (who's character arc has really been developing to the point it is now gradually since early on in the series), and creates compelling grudges with both Alice and Soma. He might be better conceptually than in characterization, but the effect he's had on the series and engineering more personal explorations of the characters and themes has benefited it very well and really came at the right time to take it to the next level after the Culture Festival. And I think that's ultimately the difference between an antagonist like Azami and one like Akashi. Though they are both ostensibly cartoonishly evil and over-the-top in their methods, the stakes created in Food Wars! are much clearer, more dire, and more personal with Azami. In KnB, the worst thing Akashi could really do is make them lose a game and prevent the third-years from winning their last high-school basket ball tournament (or try to stab their eyes out with scissors...I still hate that scene). In FW!, Azami's presence and machinations threatens the characters' own livelihoods, their lifelong careers, and their very homes. Even though the character himself might verge on the edge of ridiculousness at points with his "senpai notice me" influenced motives, the fact that he can or could potentially destroy everything on which the characters define themselves, who they are, makes him a potent and credible antagonistic force in the context of the series, at least for me personally.

I can agree that the stakes which he threatens the characters with are much greater than that of Akashi, but that doesn't make him a better written character just because his role in the story is more important, so I'm going to have to disagree with you on that point from what we've seen of him so far. Both his personality and motivations are just as shallow and ridiculous as Akashi's. He's an elite who thinks that rich people are better than poor people and that his opinions are objective facts. It's a cliche character type as old as time. That in and of itself isn't inherently good or bad, but little is done to actually make him more interesting than just fitting his own villain archetype. I hate the scene where Akashi tries to stab Kagami with scissors as well. You know what else I hate? The scene where Azami outright verbally insults several elites of the culinary world in public, and then Saeki Shun had to retcon it because he realized how stupid of a scene it was and how he hadn't planned out Azami as a character properly by that point. But even then there are several elites who disagree with his methods, which only further contradicts his ideals since the so-called elites which he claims to be speaking for are not a unified body that all agree with him. And furthermore his ideals make less sense when you say that he wants to basically starve out poor people because if they can't afford what he deems to be high-quality food then they shouldn't eat any food period.

Azami is not interesting to me either as a character or even as a concept. I've seen tons of characters of this nature and very few of them are ever done well. Azami to me is no exception. If you see it differently then that's fine, but we'll just have to agree to disagree on this one for now, then. If Azami gets some much needed development later on, then so be it, but for now I consider him to be the weak link of the series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on July 03, 2016, 03:07:22 PM
Volume 74 of Bleach has been confirmed to be the final volume. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/07/03-1/bleach-manga-will-end-with-volume-74-this-fall)

It looks like Bleach's ending won't be dragged out much longer.  Since there are currently 5 chapters past Volume 72, that means we have about 7 or so weeks until it's gone from Jump for good.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on July 03, 2016, 03:18:37 PM
Whoa, I cannot believe Bleach is finally ending. Shit as been running since I was in high school.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 03, 2016, 06:03:24 PM
Unexpected. I thought Nisekoi would be done first followed by Toriko.

This arc already feels dragged out, yet this announcement means the ending will be rushed. Amazing trick.

Still, end of an era. It's about due.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 04, 2016, 06:44:15 PM
Am I going to have to rave about MHA again? Sigh, okay. All Might, Midoriya and his mom, they all have come such a ways from when the series started. Midoriya's mom is definitely a great mother with how hard she tried to protect him yet trusts All Might enough to let her son continue attending U.A. All Might is a man's man and lives by his promises. Midoriya, who I'm sure people were expecting to throw a tantrum, did just the opposite. Every week MHA is such a good read.

Oh man, World Trigger keeps teasing that next arc. But we have to get through three more Rank Wars before we can get to it. Still, Hyuse is now officially on the team and it looks like it's going to be tough for Tamakoma-2 to move on. Definitely can't wait to see where this goes. At least we're going straight into the next match next chapter. Hopefully Ashihara gets the ball rolling from now on.

Food Wars once again leaves off on a good cliffhanger. I do wonder how exactly they're going to pull through this. It isn't like the time the judges were bribed, this time they have been gimped from the get-go. Next week should be interesting.

I think this has been the best Black Clover has been so far. This arc has been legitimately enjoyable and full of good character moments. I do hope Asta doesn't take on and beat this guy on his own, though. They really should have everyone take this guy on. They have no chance alone.

Very interesting chapters of HxH and Blue Exorcist. I have to admit, even that reveal in Seraph was pretty good. Still doesn't change the fact that Guren is a far more interesting character than Yu is. Only real weak link this week was Bleach. This arc is so sluggish.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 05, 2016, 12:54:06 PM
Turns out last week's rankings were a touch off. One Piece was off on the ranked week and Bleach's color announcement wasn't taken into account.

Here are the corrected rankings:

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #31 (July 4th, 2016):
The Disastrous Life of Saiki K. (Lead CP)
1- My Hero Academia
One Piece (Not ranked. Was absent in issue #24)
2- Black Clover
3- Hunter x Hunter
Gintama (Cover, Center Color, Live Action Movie Announcement)
4- Haikyu!!
5- Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
Koro-Sensei Q! (Special Chapter, Center Color, 8 p., Movie Announcement) (Main series published in Saikyo Jump)
6- Hinomaru Sumo
7- Yuna of Yuragi Manor
8- Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
9- Samon the Summoner
10- Takuan and Batsu's Daily Demon Diary
Bleach (Center Color, Ending Countdown Announcement)
11- Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
12- World Trigger
13- Kochikame
14- Mononofu
15- Nisekoi
16- Toriko
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 05, 2016, 01:02:27 PM
Black Clover has definitely been improving lately, IMO. As for how the latest chapter wrapped up, I'm really cool with the scenario of Aster and Noelle working as a team. Aster can't actually damage a guy who can use reinforcement magic to make himself at least three times faster and stronger than he is, but he can protect Noelle from any of his projectile or AOE-type attacks. Meanwhile, Noelle is the only Magic Knight on the scene right now who's magic is actually powerful enough to damage this guy. I hope that they end up working together in a dynamic such as this so that Aster can still prove his usefulness, but someone else can actually get the credit for ultimately taking down the villain for a change (and I mean someone other than one of the higher-ranked Magic Knights). This scenario sort of reminds me of Goku and Piccolo's fight with Raditz in Dragonball, where Goku had to distract Raditz long enough for Piccolo to charge up a devastating attack to hit him with.

Of course, the actual battle will most likely play out differently, and I won't be surprised to see Aster go on the offensive again, but I would still be happy if at least some of the battle played out in the fashion that I speculated in my previous paragraph.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 05, 2016, 07:00:42 PM
For everyone: Jump subscription is currently on sale for $19.99.

If you're not subscribed, you should be. It's a great deal. Especially since Bleach is ending soon so not only can you see its disappointing ending, but see what series replaces it!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on July 05, 2016, 07:45:38 PM
Since the new season of the anime started, I decided to finally catch-up with the Food Wars manga.  I've been really enjoying the Central arc so far and I'm interested to see where it will go from here.

I'm now going to try to catch up with World Trigger since I've been meaning to do so for quite a while.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 07, 2016, 10:15:51 AM
Gintama has officially entered its final arc. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2016-07-07/gintama-manga-enters-final-arc/.104053) At this rate it might finish before Toriko.

For those wondering, there are FOUR long running series in Shonen Jump reaching their ends.

Those are:

Bleach (ending within five chapters)
Nisekoi (dancing around the last meeting)
Toriko (has been whipping through story like crazy)
Gintama (just entered the last arc)

There's going to be a lot of free space in Jump soon.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 07, 2016, 10:33:03 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #31 (July 11th, 2016):
Haikyuu!! (Lead CP)
1. Black Clover
2. My Hero Academia
Boruto (CP)
3. Samon the Summoner
4. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma (CP)
5. Hinomaru Zumou
6. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
7. Toriko
Yuna of Yuragi Manor (CP)
8. Gintama
9. World Trigger
10. Kochikame
11. Takuan and Batsu's Daily Demon Diary
12. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
13. Mononofu
14. Bleach
15. Nisekoi
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-

What a change-up in ranking! Even Toriko got a random jump up and World Trigger and Straighten Up! are back in the top ten. On the other hand, it's easy to see why Bleach and Nisekoi are headed for the end sooner than later. Mononofu is on the way out after them unless it improves, though. This ranking has me hopeful that Viz will add KnY to the NA Jump when one of the three long runners finally ends.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on July 07, 2016, 05:12:28 PM
Hopefully some good, creative works take their spots
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 11, 2016, 05:54:54 PM
Really enjoyed the reads this week. Too bad World Trigger is off next week, but it was a good place to leave off. I just hope Ashihara gets better so he can keep a consistent schedule.

I also enjoyed Food Wars and Black Clover a good deal. I sure do like team battles, and both these series had them!

So, I clearly missed something in MHA. What did Bakugo do to Kirishima? I feel like I missed something there.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 11, 2016, 06:14:31 PM
The whole point of Bakugo's actions was to lighten up the mood of his classmates since everyone was so down after the events of the previous arc. It's yet again even more brilliant stuff from Horikoshi as a writer. It shows us just how far Bakugo's character has come since the beginning. He may have that combination of a somewhat angry and somewhat mopey demeanor like he has always had, but the old Bakugo never would have gone out of his way to get his friends (who he wouldn't even consider as friends earlier on) back to a positive state of mind. As his development is progressing, he's slowly but gradually working his way up to being one of my favorite characters of the series at this point.

It's also nice to have a little break from all of the intensity and drama that took place in the previous few arcs, so while I'm usually not a fan of filler-ish chapters, it has come at the perfect time over here because both the group of UA students as well as us as the audience really do need a little detour before jumping back into the more heavy-handed stuff again. While the manga had its pacing issues in the beginning (which the anime really did an excellent job of ironing out), Horikoshi has managed to pretty much perfect it by this point.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 11, 2016, 06:19:18 PM
Oh, he grabbed Kaminari on purpose because he knew they would react to Kaminari's goofy expression! And he used it as a cover to give Kirishima money for the camera they broke trying to save him while they were focused on the goofiness.

Now I get it! Can't believe I missed that. :sweat:

Bakugo is definitely one of the best characters in MHA.

I'm glad they're slowing down a bit here. We just had one really intense arc that pretty much changed the whole game. We could use a bit of a breather.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on July 11, 2016, 08:22:40 PM
When I first glanced at the page, I thought Bakugo stole Kaminari's money and then gave it to Kirishima.   :lol:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 13, 2016, 08:53:10 AM
Weekly and Monthly Shonen Sunday now have digital versions. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/07/13-1/shogakukans-weekly-and-monthly-shonen-sunday-go-digital-from-today)

Would be nice if NA could get some of that.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 13, 2016, 03:29:40 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #33 (July 18th, 2016):
One Piece (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
2. Black Clover
Hinomaru Zumou (CP)
3. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
4. My Hero Academia
Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma (CP)
5. Haikyuu!!
6. Gintama
Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club (CP)
7. Samon the Summoner
8. Toriko
9. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
10. Nisekoi
Flying Darwin (One Shot)
11. Bleach
12. Kochikame
13. Takuan and Batsu's Daily Demon Diary
14. Mononofu
Chronice of Isobe -Life is Hard-


WOW. That's a big pile of upsets! Mononofu is basically done at this point, and I don't think Takuan & Batsu have much further to go. They're very lucky Nisekoi and Bleach are ending soon. Hopefully Mononofu kicks it into high gear. It's going to need to if it's going to survive.

Aside from that: Yuna is in first for the first time ever, and MHA is out of the top 3 for the first time in a long time. Can't say I'm particularly thrilled with either development, but it is nice to see KnY still ranking high, even outranking MHA: it gives me more hope that Viz will pick it up for digital Jump when Bleach and Niseoki end.

Surprising issue this time. I will definitely be interested in seeing next week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on July 13, 2016, 04:47:01 PM
I'm sad to see that Mononofu is probably on its way out since I've really enjoyed what I've read of it.  It's nice that Kimetsu no Yaiba is ranking high, though.  I'd say it and Haikyu are the series most likely to replace Bleach and Nisekoi in Viz's Jump.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 13, 2016, 07:12:15 PM
Bleach is ending in less than 10 weeks. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-07-13/shonen-jump-sasaki-bleach-manga-will-end-in-less-than-10-weeks/.104273)

So Nisekoi will probably be done at the same time.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 15, 2016, 10:48:22 AM
My Hero Academia spin-off announced for Giga Jump! (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/07/15/giga-jump-plans-my-hero-academia-and-hunter-x-hunter-x-naruto-creator-conversation)

It's going to be called "Vigilante - My Hero Academia Illegals" which actually sounds like a good idea. It is being done by BETTEN Court and Hideyuki Furuhashi.

The only problem, to me, is going to be the series living up to the main one in quality. Unlicensed heroes fighting crime is a good counter-point idea to the main universe. As long as they don't try to ruin the tone of the original by making it grimdark. The writer is known for Harukaze Bitter Bop (https://www.mangaupdates.com/series.html?id=15662), which I've never read, but looks to be close in tone to what this could be.

Either way, it's interesting to see them try something like this.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 15, 2016, 10:58:31 AM
While I'm not typically a fan of these spin-off manga since they usually lack the heart and soul of what makes the main series so appealing in the first place, this conceptually sounds like an actual great idea. What will determine whether it works or not is how well it manages to complement the main series by both feeling like a part of its world and also expanding on its world. It also has to invest us in its main characters and their struggles to the point that when we're reading it, we are engaged in their personal conflicts and our minds don't wander to the cast of the main series.

In essence, if done right it should be the equivalent of what Angel is to Buffy, or The Flash to Arrow: A great stand-alone series that also connects with another great series taking place in the same Universe. Maybe even throw in a cameo or crossover down the line if it gets popular enough.

That said, given the track record of most manga spin-offs handled by different authors from the original work, I'm keeping my expectations considerably low for now.

BTW, I'm also interested in seeing that conversation between Togashi and Kishimoto.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 15, 2016, 11:11:42 AM
Yeah, the interview should be interesting.

I guess why I'm interested in this spin-off more than others is because it literally covers material Horikoshi doesn't have time to cover in the main series. We always knew there would be Batman/The Shadow/Daredevil style vigilante heroes in MHA, just as there are villains like Stain, but introducing them into a story that is ostensibly about a Superman-level conflict of heroes and villains just doesn't quite fit and would probably derail the main story. It was logical to make a series like this.

However, execution is everything. Monthly series are done differently from weekly ones. If this is more Blood Blockade Battlefront with action, comedy, and standalone stories, than it is Seraph of the End's grimdark melodrama, lame MC, and sluggish story, than it can only be a good thing. Either way, I'll be eager to see how it turns out.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 15, 2016, 11:16:50 AM
The premise does give me the vibe of this being The Defenders of the MHA Universe (street level heroes who operate unsanctioned) while the main cast comparatively feels like The Avengers (professionals backed by a well-financed organization). If it can also have the same relative amount of quality that those Netflix shows do to their movie counterparts, then it could definitely be a worthy expansion to the MHA franchise.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 15, 2016, 01:24:24 PM
Hopefully Viz'll license it relatively quickly. It'd be a good fit as free content for the new Shonen Jump site.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 18, 2016, 12:51:24 PM
The shortness of this week's NA Jump makes me hopeful that they announce some new series soon. Imagine if Bleach, Nisekoi, and Toriko had ended. This issue would have been really small.

That said, MHA, Black Clover, and Food Wars were all very enjoyable this week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 20, 2016, 09:17:34 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #34 (July 25th, 2016):
One Piece (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
2. Haikyuu!!
My Hero Academia (CP)
3. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
4. Hinomaru Zumou
Black Clover (CP)
5. World Trigger
6. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
Samon the Summoner (CP)
7. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
8. Toriko
9. Kochikame
10. Takuan and Batsu's Daily Demon Diary
11. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
12. Nisekoi
13. Gintama
14. Bleach
Mononofu (End)
Chronice of Isobe -Life is Hard-

Yep, Mononofu ended. There are three new series starting, which means Nisekoi and Bleach should also be done very soon. It's too bad for Mononofu, but apparently it had a good ending, so at least it ended well. It's just unfortunate there are three new series it was up against. That's probably also why Bleach is being pushed to end so soon, as well. There are 2 to 3 chapters left of the two series.

These new series are:

Issue #35: Yakusoku Neverland by Posuka Demizu (art) & Kaiu Shiroi (story)
Issue #38: Love Rush by Ryôhei Yamamoto (E-Robot)
Issue #39: Red Sprite by Tomohiro Yagi (Iron Knight)

In Jump related news: Oda now says One Piece is 65% complete. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2016-07-20/one-piece-manga-creator-eiichiro-oda-story-is-about-65-percent-finished/.104500)

EDIT: One of the posters does the math for One Piece:

QuoteSo as Oda states, the manga is at about 65% of its completion, which, if you do the math, means that One Piece will roughly end around Volume 125.

Volume 82 was just published and we're in the middle of Volume 83. 82 divided by 125 is 0.656, i.e. 65.6% completion of the story. This leaves us with 60 volumes for Part 1 and about 65 volumes for Part 2.

We still have a whopping 43 volumes of story left to go in One Piece (give or take).

At a release rate of about four volumes per year, we still have about 9 1/2 years to go of One Piece. There's so many unanswered questions about the story and questions yet to come for this series. Can't wait to see what Oda has in store. Just wanted to see if I can clarify some math here for you guys.
That looks about right.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on July 20, 2016, 10:40:25 AM
It's sad to see Mononofu go, but not surprising considering how competitive the current Jump lineup is.  Hopefully we get something good out of the next batch of Jump Starts.

The first volume of Vector Ball got translated, so I decided to read it.  I definitely got a strong Zatch Bell vibe from it (in a good way) and Raiku's usual humor is also present.  Overall, it looks it could be a promising and fun action series.  Hopefully, Crunchyroll will consider picking it up since it's in WSM. 

Reading this also reminds me that I still need to check out Animal Land at some point since I hear it's amazing.  :sweat:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on July 20, 2016, 11:24:18 AM
O.o a planned 9 1/2 years?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 21, 2016, 04:37:24 PM
Viz is publishing Kento Shinohara's (SKET Dance) Astra Lost in Space (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-07-21/viz-media-to-publish-astra-lost-in-space-manga-by-sket-dance-shinohara-online/.104557) for free online.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 21, 2016, 05:21:12 PM
I know someone who's going to be very happy about that. :D
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on July 21, 2016, 09:42:26 PM
It's nice to see Viz giving some love to Jump+ series.  I've heard good things about Sket Dance, so I'm interested in reading the mangaka's other work. :)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 25, 2016, 12:18:30 PM
Viz is running a Jump Start for The Promised Neverland next week. I'm assuming they'll also do one for Red Sprite. I still hope Kimetsu no Yaiba has a chance to run once Nisekoi and Bleach are done. Because these chapters pretty much prove there are only two or three chapters of them left.

As for MHA, I do wonder what Deku will do to enhance his quirk with gear. I've been of the mind that Kaminari should do something like that for his very obvious drawback, but I guess it's good to see that Midoriya at least figured out that he needs to offset his weaknesses.

Also really liked the conclusion to the fight in Black Clover. Team up battles are always some of my favorites, and this one was real well done.

Oh, and World Trigger was hilarious. The fact that one squad has absolutely no strategy should be an interesting mix for this next match. But I do hope it's quick, because I really do want to wrap this up and move on to the next arc.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on July 27, 2016, 10:45:51 AM
Both Bleach and Nisekoi will be ending in the 36-37 double issue of Shonen Jump (August 8th). (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/07/27-1/nisekoi-and-bleach-to-both-end-in-august-shonen-jump-double-issue)

Also, Billy Bat will end in 3 more chapters. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-07-27/billy-bat-manga-to-end-in-3-more-chapters/.104711)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 27, 2016, 12:53:38 PM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on July 27, 2016, 10:45:51 AM
Both Bleach and Nisekoi will be ending in the 36-37 double issue of Shonen Jump (August 8th). (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/07/27-1/nisekoi-and-bleach-to-both-end-in-august-shonen-jump-double-issue)
End of an era.

Now let's get some quality in there to replace them.

Quote from: VLordGTZ on July 27, 2016, 10:45:51 AMAlso, Billy Bat will end in 3 more chapters. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-07-27/billy-bat-manga-to-end-in-3-more-chapters/.104711)
It must be mentioned that Kodansha is in charge of this series. Unless they relent, Viz won't be licensing this. Which makes me wonder what's taking so long to release it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 27, 2016, 01:00:41 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #35 (August 1st, 2016):
The Promised Neverland (Cover, Lead CP)
1. My Hero Academia
2. One Piece
Black Clover (CP)
3. Haikyuu!!
4. Gintama
The Disastrous Life of Saiki K. (CP)
5. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
6. World Trigger
7. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
8. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
9. Hinomaru Zumou
10. Takuan and Batsu's Daily Demon Diary
11. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
12. Toriko
13. Samon the Summoner
14. Nisekoi
15. Kochikame
16. Bleach
Chronice of Isobe -Life is Hard-

Nothing surprising here other than a huge dip for Samon. Glad to see World Trigger still keeping pace, and I hope he can whip through the end of this arc already.

To be honest, I'm not expecting Takuan and Batsu to hang in there for long. Most series that spend their first weeks in the double digits don't jump further than that. Unless these new series are bombs (it has happened before) then I don't think it will be around for long.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 27, 2016, 01:01:43 PM
I'm gonna mark the end of One Piece as the true end of an era. Nobody has given a shit about Bleach for at least half a decade, so the fact that it's ending now doesn't really count for much.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 27, 2016, 01:14:41 PM
I said that because (other than Gintama, which is also nearing the end) it's the last remnant of the Silver Age left in Jump. We have another decade until One Piece (and HxH) signal the end of the "Dark" Age.  ;)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on July 27, 2016, 03:46:17 PM
I'd say the of an era will be when Gintama and Toriko end, since that will mean all the Jump series that started in the 2000s will be over. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 27, 2016, 07:07:48 PM
Sou-Bou-Tei Kowasubeshi is selling really well. By next week, the first volume should have sold over 100,000. It's not at Magi or Major level yet, but it was clearly a smart move by Shogakukan to get Fujita back for Sunday.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on July 27, 2016, 07:10:36 PM
Now that's good news!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 30, 2016, 12:25:46 AM
Fuuka is getting an anime! (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/07/29-1/fuuka-ladies-strip-down-for-anime-announcement)

The series has had some ups and downs lately, but I'm pretty jazzed about this. Manga about music tend to benefit the most when adapted into a medium with sound, so there's a lot of potential to take this series to the next level if it's given to the right studio. Of course, part of the fun as a manga reader will be in watching how anime-only watchers will react to a certain twist...

Spoiler
Quotei wonder what episode Truck-kun will come in at
:sly:
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Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 01, 2016, 02:56:12 PM
MHA, World Trigger, and Food Wars were as great as ever. The Bleach chapter made me laugh because all I can think is that this chapter would have been like 10 if Kubo was still pacing it out in his usual style.

As for the Jump Start, Promised Neverland had good art, but the story didn't do anything for me. I've seen this type of story too many times before. I will have to hold my judgement on it for the next two chapters.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 01, 2016, 03:40:33 PM
Haven't been able to comment on Jump in a while, but since this is a rare free day, I can give brief thoughts on some of the series:

My rankings this week:

The Promised Neverland
Toriko
Food Wars!
My Hero Academia

IMO, The Promised Neverland's off to a pretty strong start. An intriguing horror-mystery premise akin to the dystopian future of H.G. Well's Time Machine with likable and sympathetic characters that I want to see survive and am interested in seeing how. Still a lot more it needs to do in terms of fleshing out it's characters and world and whatnot, but the art is multi-faceted and can charm or horrify on a dime, and the writing so far is solid and doesn't draw too much attention to the fact the premise is familiar. The ending of the chapter made me want to read more, as a first chapter should, and I'm interested in seeing how the story unfolds.

Toriko continues to be pure insanity, and I'm loving every page of it. Neo is plowing down the Eight Kings and Acacia and Pair are getting ready to complete his revival, and Starjun is barely holding on in his fight with Joie. But it looks like the calvary is about to arrive as my man, Midora, is free from the can and ready for a rematch! Man, am I hyped for that! These last few Toriko chapters have really been getting my blood and adrenaline rushing when I read them. The series might be sprinting to the end, but damn has it been making the most of the time it has left to do some crazy shit.

Food Wars! - I haven't been feeling this Advancement Exam arc so far, since it feels rather unbelievable that the examiners couldn't create even harsher conditions to crush the resisters or simply choose not to pass them for some frivolous technicality. But I really like how creatively Soma and co. made use of potatoes to create a satisfying pasta dish that looks and sounds so delicious reading about it; it was a really clever way of making use of their limited resources and use them to their advantage. I also like how the linchpin of the chapter wasn't Soma executing this idea, but how the entire resistance group has learned and taken to heart what Erina has taught them and have taken their cooking skills and know-how to the next level as a result. Erina has really supplanted Soma as the MVP of the series, this arc especially, and her defending and her confidence in the abilities of her friends feels really satisfying given her character arc through the series. It's only fitting that she's leading the charge against Central and her father, and I'm really excited to see where this role of her will take her and what she will do when she and Azami next meet face to face. That's long-term stuff, but in the short-term I'm definitely interested in who Central (I'm assuming) is calling in for backup now that the resisters have passed the second phase. It's cool that the resistance has laughed off Central's attempt to fail them so far, but now it's time for them to face a bit for of a challenge and struggle a bit, and I hope that's what in store next.

My Hero Academia - It was nice to see Hatsume again, and I'm hoping this isn't the last we see of her and she'll have more prominence going forward. She's a fun character, though some of her shtick in this chapter got tired after a while. The big takeaway of the chapter, however, is Midoriya realizing a way to use One For All in a way wholly his own, creating a new special move based on kicking rather than punching. That he demonstrated while protecting All Might was just a fantastic passing-of-the-torch moment that pretty much single-handedly made the chapter for me and cements Midoriya as my MVP for this week as well. Really excited to see him explore the new possibilities in kick-based techniques.

It's hard to believe the next chapter of Bleach is the last just based on the end of this chapter. He's going to have to cram so much denouement into it that there's no way any fan of the series will get the closure they would have wanted. He brought this upon himself, but it's too bad the series' fans have to suffer for it. Maybe Jump will let him rewrite the ending in the future like what Hiroyuki Takei did with Shaman King.

Didn't expect Viz would run Love Rush! as a Jump Start considering their experience with E-Robot. Then again, they'll be needing new content to run with two of the regular series finishing up next week. Odd that they didn't promote that next week would be the finales of Bleach and Nisekoi, though. I understand why they downplay it in Japan, but the U.S. Jump has usually handled it differently when it comes to big series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 01, 2016, 04:58:27 PM
Now that you mention it, it's weird that they didn't advertise the end of Bleach and Nisekoi. That's two of their ongoing popular series ending next week (and dropping a chunk of the reason people subscribe) and they didn't say anything. Both series ending is kind of a big deal, not to mention what they're going to replace them with.

I'm hoping these new Jump Starts don't take precedence over the older series. We don't know how long these starts will last, but Kimetsu no Yaiba, Straighten Up, and even Haikyuu, are series will mostly likely be running for a while. I'd like to get one or two of them before we jump straight into these new ones.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 01, 2016, 07:12:05 PM
The current arc of Food Wars! is really boring so far. Why would the author deliberately waste time with filler battles in which the conflicts are over almost as soon as they begin? Instead of making six phases where the first two or three phases are a joke, make three phases where all three tests are incredibly tough. And it wouldn't hurt to have some balls and at least fail out some of the minor characters in order to cement just how tough the rebels have it. Having everyone pass the first two phases with ease, even while having Erina's lectures to go on, only further discredits the notion that Azami and his administration are some breed of political geniuses and a major threat, which I've seen people claim to defend that character. Currently, Central as a whole just comes off as unbelievably incompetent to me, and that's clearly not the intention here.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 03, 2016, 11:47:57 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #36/37 (August 10th/17th, 2016):
WSJ Cast (Cover)
One Piece (Lead CP)
1. My Hero Academia
2. Haikyuu!!
Nisekoi (CP, END)
3. Black Clover
4. Gintama
The Promised Neverland (CP)
5. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
6. Hinomaru Zumou
Boruto (CP)
7. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
Bleach (CP)
8. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
9. World Trigger
10. Kochikame
11. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
12. Samon the Summoner
13. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
14. Takuan and Batsu's Daily Demon Diary
15. Toriko
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-

You didn't read that wrong. Bleach didn't end. It's being given an extra chapter after all.

As for this week rankings, I have no idea what happened. But I don't like it. At this rate Toriko is sure to go with the next new serializations, and I think Takuan and Samon might join it. But that is the lowest ranking for KnY and Straighten Up so far.  I hope it's not a sign of things to come.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 04, 2016, 10:13:05 PM
Magi is now officially half-way through it's final arc. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-08-04/magi-manga-is-halfway-through-final-arc/.105004) Which means it'll probably end in less than a year.

I really ought to catch up soon. I've been behind on most of the stuff I follow that doesn't run in the english WSJ recently, but Magi started it's final arc with a strong set of chapters and I've heard that things have just kept getting better.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Markness on August 07, 2016, 10:34:36 AM
The last handful of Magi chapters have been pretty decent.
I'm glad to see Alibaba and Morgiana coming together in love, especially after it was implied she got with Hakuryuu. Alibaba went through a lot to make it back to Earth so he deserves a break.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 08, 2016, 12:57:35 PM
I'm really eager to see how the license exam is going to work in MHA. Especially with Midoriya's new approach to his quirk. Also interested in seeing just who some of these new heroes are and what they can do. There was a lot of really good set up this week.

Also, what was with both Bleach and Nisekoi having ten year time skips? Is this a new ending theme for WSJ series?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 08, 2016, 01:46:30 PM
Dragonball also had a 10 year time skip for its final chapter. Naruto's was more than 10 years later. Several other series have had time skips of large chunks of time leading up to their final chapters. It just seems to be a rather common trope of lots of long-running shonen manga, so it isn't really that much of a coincidence or even that surprising if both Bleach and Nisekoi ended that way.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 08, 2016, 08:34:43 PM
I finally caught back up with Magi after taking a break for it from a few months. My feelings on the current (and supposedly final) arc are rather mixed. On the one hand I truly do admire how atypical it is in going against expectations. Rather than being an action-heavy series of set-piece battles, it's a battle of wits as the protagonists are attempting to live in this new world and establish a balance between the merchants and traders of all countries. It fully embraces this world's politics, which is something that I've wanted to see from this series for a long time. Additionally, aside from Arba, the other main "villain" of this arc, while misguided, clearly isn't evil in his own right and to his credit has done some real good for the world, despite his ideals also obviously having some long-term negative reprucussions.

That said, if I had to label my problem with this arc that holds it back from greatness in my eyes, it'd have to be that there is a serious lack of any real tension or emotional stakes for what's clearly building up to the climax of the series. It feels like David is about to make his move soon, and will manage to either physically return in some form or at least successfully release Il Illah. Yet, nothing that I've seen so far really gives me any sense of what the weight of the approaching threat is. In that regard, I still strongly feel that Magnostadt was the best story arc of this whole series. It managed to find that perfect balance of everything, whereas this arc excels at some aspects but falls short with others, IMO.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 09, 2016, 05:42:32 PM
Kimetsu no Yaiba is getting a V-Comic! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m6ZC39iOzzg)

Hope that's a sign of things to come. The series has a lot of potential.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 15, 2016, 01:00:54 PM
I quite enjoyed the first chapter of Astra Lost in Space. It feels like there's a lot of potential here.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 17, 2016, 09:40:12 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #38 (August 24th, 2016):
Love Rush! (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Haikyuu!!
2. One Piece
Bleach (CP, END)
3. Hinomaru Zumou
The Promised Neverland (Not Ranked)
My Hero Academia (CP)
4. Black Clover
5. World Trigger
6. Kochikame
7. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
8. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
9. Food Wars! Shokugeki no Souma
10. Samon the Summoner
11. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
12. Takuan and Batsu's Daily Demon Dairy
13. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
14. Gintama
15. Toriko
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-

The Bleach announcement was a live action movie. Thankfully, no sequel manga was announced. So celebrate. Bleach is over!

Looks like it was a fluke ranking for KnY since its back in its usual range. But I'm gonna say that Takuan and Batsu is the next series to go. There are no more series to hold it back from last place except series already on the way out. Samon seems to be taking hard hits recently. I'm not sure what's going on with that one.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on August 17, 2016, 07:34:51 PM
Togashi and Kishimoto were interviewed about things and the like. (http://yonkouprod.com/yoshihiro-togashi-x-masashi-kishimoto-interview/) The former wants to make a card battle manga after HXH ever ends.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 17, 2016, 07:42:26 PM
QuoteKishimoto reads his favorite mangas/films again and again such as "Akira", "Ghost in the Shell", "The Usual Suspects", "Forrest Gump" and "Little Miss Sunshine".
Togashi's favorite film is "Alien", but the film he watches most frequently is "Prince of Darkness" by John Carpenter. He also likes "28 Days Later".

Damn. Bros' got good taste in movies. ;)

Figures that Togashi would list all horror movies. :sly:

QuoteKishimoto is cheered up by watching the trailer of "DmC Devil May Cry" again and again.

WTF? THAT'S the DMC game that lifts his spirits? Well, it does fit his cheesily pretentious style of story-telling, so I suppose that it makes sense....:humhumhum:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 17, 2016, 07:46:10 PM
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on August 17, 2016, 07:34:51 PM
Togashi and Kishimoto were interviewed about things and the like. (http://yonkouprod.com/yoshihiro-togashi-x-masashi-kishimoto-interview/) The former wants to make a card battle manga after HXH ever ends.

He already did a card battle manga in Hunter X Hunter itself with the Greed Island arc.

Though, I can imagine a full-fledged one done by him being a bizarre mix between Yugioh and Saw.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 17, 2016, 07:58:56 PM
QuoteTogashi thinks it is hard to draw special ability based battle manga such as Hunter x Hunter and Naruto these days since audience consider characters' abilities in details and sometimes end up finding its contradictions.
This seems more like something Araki would have an issue with, but it's good to know that its in Togashi's head when he's writing. It means he really thinks about it instead of throwing it out there.

QuoteTogashi decides to make many characters appear in Black Whale arc since he'd like to know what will happen in a chaotic situation. He refers to Oda, who also introduced many characters in one arc (probably implying Marineford Arc).
Hoo boy. You thought the beginning of Chimera Ant was a death-fest? You ain't seen nothing yet.

QuoteKishimoto is now preparing for his next manga. He has been collecting materials. He didn't let his editor know about it so far. Kishimoto says he'd like to announce something about it in 2016.
Make it quick, succinct, and straightforward. Kishimoto cannot do scope, but he succeeds with smaller casts.

QuoteTogashi is impressed at Hirohiko Araki's drawing skill and great storytelling.
They both have a similar sense when it comes to action scenes, so that isn't very surprising.

QuoteTogashi didn't intend to make Hiei into Yusuke's friend in "Yu Yu Hakusho". It was due to advice from his editor. Togashi laughs and says if he intended to do so from the beginning, Hiei wouldn't have been full of eyes.
That was obvious. He did a great job of explaining that part away, and the anime staff cleaned up the remainder.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on August 17, 2016, 09:26:20 PM
Wait, there's going to be an arc after Dark Continent?! **DO NOT ANSWER** RHETORICAL STATEMENT** **NO SPOILERS, BITCH**
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 17, 2016, 09:45:06 PM
I'm pretty sure that Togashi was referring to the current arc going on in the manga. He just called it something different than Dark Continent since they haven't actually reached their destination yet.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 17, 2016, 09:48:09 PM
It's sort of in a sub-arc right now. I guess that's the best way to explain it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Daikun on August 19, 2016, 10:14:21 PM
The final chapter of the Bleach manga was released yesterday.

That's it. It's finally over.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 19, 2016, 10:50:16 PM
It hasn't "officially" ended until monday. Scans get released a couple days before Jump actually comes out in Japan and the U.S.  :awesome:

Though I generally don't read scans of legally available manga anymore, I went ahead skimmed the chapter. It's a decent ending all things considered. I kinda liked Aizen's speech about courage. If I was still emotionally invested in the characters, I would probably find seeing where everyone ended up and Ichigo and Rukia's kids meeting cathartic. Or maybe not, if the reactions of salty IchiRuki shippers are any indication. :D
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on August 21, 2016, 10:37:12 PM
So here's a video that tries to explain how and why Bleach fell from the spotlight. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACq7tgjHdGA)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 21, 2016, 11:10:17 PM
It's a good video, though I felt Nik Freeman's videos from a few years ago as well as his editorial on ANN a couple months ago covered the topic of Bleach's decline in quality more thoroughly. The editorial point is something Josh brought up a couple weeks ago on Manga Mavericks, and definitely, there seems to be a lot of evidence that lends credibility to the speculation that Kubo had a toxic relationship with his editors and the higher-ups at Jump.

It's also interesting to look at that popularity poll ranking graph and see that Bleach's fall from grace in the reader polls really only happened after Aizen was defeated but the series lifelessly kept going with the directionless (and ultimately pointless) Fullbring arc. It's no surprise that was the point Kubo also really started skimping on his art. He probably lost all passion in the series by that point, and the editors probably couldn't care less about what he wrote and drew so long as the volumes continued to sell. They both used each other until Jump finally decided they had gotten all they could out of the franchise and told Kubo to call it quits before he could organically end it on his own terms. Which is his own fault for dragging it out so long, but it's still a depressing narrative to think about, presuming this was in fact what happened.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 22, 2016, 09:24:29 AM
Jump Festa reveals some news. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-08-21/jump-special-anime-festa-reveals-partial-lineup-teases-new-anime-title/.105604)

My Hero Academia is getting an anime original episode (written by Horikoshi) and there will be a premiere of a Jump manga that has never gotten an anime adaption before. It's just a special at this point, but may become a series later.

I would have to imagine it's Hinomaru Zumou or Straighten Up. Everything else in the magazine is either too new or already had or has an adaption.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 22, 2016, 11:52:51 AM
They wisely toned down the ecchi elements for Love Rush and turned up the Rom Com stuff from the one-shot. This is probably a smart idea to help it last longer in Jump. While it's pretty standard stuff, I have to say its base concept is way better than Nisekoi's was. It's also light years ahead of E-Robot. I'll be reading the next few chapters, either way.

It was good to see Hayama again in Food Wars. It makes sense he would be in the council now, though I would like to know just what he's doing there. Unfortunately, that will have to wait until the next chapter.

I'm glad we're finally gonna get to see what the others are up to in Black Clover. The last arc was pretty action packed and Asta's group needs some down time.

World Trigger was as good as usual. Ikoma Squad is quickly becoming one of my favorite squads. Their banter is very enjoyable.

Unfortunately, I still can't say anything about the Promised Neverland. It still hasn't really shown me anything I can judge. The art is nice and the plot is decent, but that's about it. Can't say I would prefer this in NA Jump over Kimetsu no Yaiba, though.

Never get tired of the MHA color pages. I really hope Midoriya uses his mask more. It really works for him. Really interested to see how this exam goes. With everyone after UA it shouldn't be too difficult for them to get the requirements to pass.

That ending of Bleach was so incredibly rushed, but at least it's over. Kubo needs to go somewhere he can get a stable editor that will keep him in line. I would be surprised if his next work is in Jump.

Next week is the last Jump Start, so I hope Red Sprite is up to the challenge.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 22, 2016, 02:18:39 PM
Actually, Hayama joining Central doesn't make any immediate sense given how his character was devoted to Jun and her seminar, which would have been (and effectively has been) disbanded by Central. Motive wise, he should be one of the rebels, or at least you would think so. That said, I'm sure that the next few chapters will go into more detail explaining why he joined Central, which is why I'm not really questioning it too much right now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on August 22, 2016, 11:55:02 PM
It's funny how I'm more care more about Promised Neverland's Jump Start being over than I am about Bleach finally ending.  Considering how bad Bleach has done in WSJ in recent years and Kubo's (apparently) unfriendly relationship with Jump and Shueisha, I wouldn't be surprised if he starts working with Kodansha or Shogakukan.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on August 23, 2016, 10:25:16 AM
Silver Spoon is returning from hiatus on August 31st! (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-08-23/silver-spoon-manga-will-resume-on-august-31/.105606)
Hopefully Arakawa will be able to release the final batch of chapters without having to take another hiatus.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on August 24, 2016, 04:12:47 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on August 22, 2016, 09:24:29 AM
Jump Festa reveals some news. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-08-21/jump-special-anime-festa-reveals-partial-lineup-teases-new-anime-title/.105604)

My Hero Academia is getting an anime original episode (written by Horikoshi) and there will be a premiere of a Jump manga that has never gotten an anime adaption before. It's just a special at this point, but may become a series later.

I would have to imagine it's Hinomaru Zumou or Straighten Up. Everything else in the magazine is either too new or already had or has an adaption.

It looks like you forgot about Black Clover, Spark.   (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/08/24-1/black-clover-anime-episode-to-screen-at-jump-festa)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 24, 2016, 04:28:05 PM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on August 24, 2016, 04:12:47 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on August 22, 2016, 09:24:29 AM
Jump Festa reveals some news. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-08-21/jump-special-anime-festa-reveals-partial-lineup-teases-new-anime-title/.105604)

My Hero Academia is getting an anime original episode (written by Horikoshi) and there will be a premiere of a Jump manga that has never gotten an anime adaption before. It's just a special at this point, but may become a series later.

I would have to imagine it's Hinomaru Zumou or Straighten Up. Everything else in the magazine is either too new or already had or has an adaption.

It looks like you forgot about Black Clover, Spark.   (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/08/24-1/black-clover-anime-episode-to-screen-at-jump-festa)
Silly me for thinking they'd wait a little longer for an anime for this one. The days of long waits for anime adaptions are over.

Still think Hinomaru should have one first, though. It's only slightly older than MHA.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on August 24, 2016, 05:22:53 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Production I.G. decides to make a Hinomaru Zumou anime after the next season of Haikyu.  It does consistently well in Jump, so it's about time that it got an adaption.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 25, 2016, 12:26:39 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #39 (August 31st, 2016):
Red Sprite (Cover, Lead CP, New Series)
1. One Piece
2. My Hero Academia
Haikyuu!! (CP)
3. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
4. Black Clover
Love Rush! (CP)
5. World Trigger
6. Kochikame
7. Hinomaru Zumou
Promised Neverland (Not Ranked)
8. Food Wars! Shokugeki no Souma
9. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
10. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
11. Toriko
12. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
13. Samon the Summoner
14. Gintama
15. Takuan and Batsu's Daily Demon Dairy
Isobe Isobee Monogatari

Takuan is the next to go, and it doesn't look like Samon is far behind it. Surprised at the crazy bumps Kochikame is getting.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on August 29, 2016, 11:57:55 AM
Viz has officially added The Promised Neverland to Shonen Jump! 

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CrCrYUqVIAAwX9x.jpg:large)

I was not expecting this so soon.  Even Black Clover didn't get added until its first few rankings came out.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 29, 2016, 04:48:59 PM
I'm not complaining, but it's a shame Kimetsu no Yaiba got passed over.

I liked Red Sprite. It was really fast paced, essentially an origin story in one chapter. It reminded me of Skies of Arcadia meets Psyren. I don't know how popular this will be, but it looks right up my alley. First chapter was pretty straightforward, but I think it was to its merit. For instance, I'm certain Sheppard wasn't killed at the end of the chapter. There's still a lot to flesh out on.

MHA is as great as always. The quirks these other wannabe heroes have are pretty good. I'm not sure how Horikoshi always manages to pack in so much content every week, but it never stops being fun to read.

I have to give Love Rush points for having what you'd figure would be the big love confession in only the second chapter. I honestly didn't see that coming.

World Trigger never fails to have great moments like Osamu and Chika's move here. Even without Kuga, they're a deadly pair. Although now, I wonder. They're in a tight spot, even with two on one. I hope Osamu remembered to plant some bullets like last time.

Speaking of Kuga, a different Kuga is back in Food Wars. Really interested to see how Soma can figure out how to cook bear.

I'm hoping Asta doesn't fight again in Black Clover. He has two broken arms, there isn't much he can do here.

It looks like the Promised Neverland is finally starting to get moving.

Another good issue this week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 31, 2016, 11:31:33 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #40 (September 5th, 2016):
Haikyuu!! (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Black Clover
2. One Piece
Red Sprite (CP)
3. My Hero Academia
4. Gintama
Legacy (CP, Golden Future Cup Entry #1)
5. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
Food Wars! Shokugeki no Souma (CP)
6. Kochikame
Love Rush! (Not Ranked)
7. World Trigger
The Promised Neverland (Not Ranked)
8. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
9. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
10. Hinomaru Zumou
11. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
12. Samon the Summoner
13. Toriko
14. Takuan and Batsu's Daily Demon Diary
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-

Yep, it looks like Toriko, Samon, and Takuan & Batsu, are the next on the docket for cancellation. I'm thinking they were hoping Samon would be a quirky hit or something, but it never really took off in that direction. On the other hand, Toriko is probably going to be over by the end of the year anyway, so it might last past one more new series session.

I highly doubt they're going to add three new series like this anytime soon. These three series were really polished and developed from inception. It's clear to me that Jump put these out there to fill holes in their lineup.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 31, 2016, 07:35:26 PM
It's hard to tell how many chapters Toriko really needs to end, much less how much Jump is willing to give it, but I definitely expect it to be done before the end of this year. Won't be too sad about T&B and Samon ending, since I didn't get too invested in them. Really hoping KnY and SU! can hang in there and climb back up, though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 03, 2016, 11:21:49 AM
Kochikame is ending. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-09-03/osamu-akimoto-kochikame-manga-ends-on-september-17-after-40-years-of-serialization/.106073)

You read that right. After 40 years of serialization, it'll be running it's last chapter in the September 19th issue of WSJ.

Lots of big series have ended this year, but this is by far the biggest. Kochikame has been with Jump since the Bronze age. It's something that people have expected to see in an issue of WSJ for four decades. This really is an end of an era, and 2016 has turned out to be quite the turning point not just for Jump but manga as a whole.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 03, 2016, 12:02:46 PM
Kochikame is one of those long-running gag series that I do eventually want to get into.

Kind of strange that such a long and historied manga just had its ending announced so abruptly, but considering that it's mostly episodic-fare, it does make sense that it could easily end at any time without much of any buildup to it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on September 03, 2016, 12:36:07 PM
This came out of nowhere.  :SHOCK:

Yeah, this year really is going to be the end of an era for Jump
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 04, 2016, 08:28:31 PM
So many series ending this year.

I guess with this, Takuan, and Toriko ending, it means the other series are safe from cancellation for a good while now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Avaitor on September 04, 2016, 09:19:28 PM
Do you think this will get a fully colored final chapter?

But wow, I think this is really the end of the silver age, as opposed to Naruto's end. Or maybe it's the start of a new age. (guess who recently read a certain blog series chronicling Jump's history)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 04, 2016, 09:55:16 PM
Soon enough, Saiki and Haikyuu will be the oldest series other than OP (and HxH). That's odd to think about.

I heard it will get the first chapter re-reprinted in full color in the final issue. I would assume it would also get the last chapter in full color. Other than One Piece, I don't see any other series likely to deserve it. It's already getting the cover for its final chapter, and only Slam Dunk has only ever gotten that.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 05, 2016, 07:26:47 PM
Ring ni Kakero, Dragon Ball, and Naruto also got the cover for their final chapters too.  Kochikame joins a very exclusive set of series that have done so in Jump's history. One Piece will also probably get it when it ends in a decade or so.

This week's issue was pretty good. I'm liking Red Sprite a lot better with it's second chapter. Promised Neverland furthers the intrigue in introducing another adult they have to watch out for, though this one may actually be a demon in disguise. That shape-shifting chick in MHA is kinda creepy but pretty formidable, and is sure to give Deku a challenging fight. And that Toriko chapter was just so, so satisfying as a fan of Midora's character. It's hard to believe that Midora's fight with Joie pretty much began over a year ago, but it was a great payoff that really delivered on Midora's character arc and relationship with Froese in a way that was both badass and sentimental. Not to mention seeing Joie get what he had coming to him after all the lies and manipulation was really cathartic. With him out, Neo/Acacia is the only enemy left, so the final showdown is truly getting in full swing here.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 07, 2016, 08:25:06 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #41 (September 12th, 2016):
My Hero Academia (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Black Clover
2. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
3. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
4. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
Boruto (CP)
5. Haikyuu!!
Boy the Gold (CP, Golden Future Cup Entry #2)
6. Kochikame
Red Sprite (Not Ranked)
Hinomaru Zumou (CP)
7. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
Love Rush! (Not Ranked)
8. Gintama
The Promised Neverland (Not Ranked)
9. Samon the Summoner
10. Toriko
11. World Trigger
12. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
13. Takuan and Batsu's Daily Demon Diary
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-

The only real surprise is how high Saiki ranked. I can't remember the last time it was #3. Straighten Up is in trouble, but it still has a good buffer for now. Hopefully it'll be able to improve itself before it gets the ax.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 13, 2016, 09:26:43 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #42 (September 19th, 2016):
Kochikame (Cover, Lead CP, END)
Kochikame (Chapter 1 Full Colour)
1. One Piece
2. Black Clover
3. My Hero Academia
4. Hinomaru Zumou
5. Haikyuu!!
6. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
Red Sprite (Not Ranked)
7. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
8. World Trigger
Tokubetsu Kokka Koumuin Kaizousha Taisaku-ka Tanaka Seiji (CP, Golden Future Cup Entry #3)
9. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
Love Rush! (Not Ranked)
10. Gintama
The Promised Neverland (Not Ranked)
11. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
12. Samon the Summoner
13. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
14. Toriko
15. Takuan and Batsu's Daily Demon Diary
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-

There's a big announcement for Gintama coming next week. Since it just had a live action movie made, this can only be more anime or possibly a date on the ending. On the other hand, that ranking is the lowest KnY has been so far. Not a good sign. But it still looks like Takuan & Batsu will be the next series to close up shop.

And that's it for Kochikame! A 40-year long serialization ends here! It's hard to believe, but there it is.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 13, 2016, 10:42:42 AM
Things aren't looking great for KnY or SU!. However, with Toriko and Gintama both being in their final battles right now, they might just survive a little while longer if those series end first.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 15, 2016, 07:30:52 AM
Damn. Kaminari really shined this week. Granted, it was partly thanks to Bakugou's help (another great example of how he really is more hero-material than he lets on), but those were some Joseph Joestar-quality tactics right there.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 15, 2016, 09:18:39 AM
MHA volume 10 has been #1 in Japan for two weeks now, and volume 5 has been tearing up the NA charts. I'm glad to see it. That should mean it's sticking around for a while. Same for Food Wars and World Trigger. None of these three are in danger of cancellation any time soon.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 15, 2016, 10:56:18 AM
Though, even being in a safe spot ranking-wise, I could see Food Wars ending on its own terms once the Central arc concludes (which to be fair is a ways off right now). Azami has "final-boss" status written all over him (not to say that Soma will face him directly, but that he'll eventually dismantle his ideologies on cooking), and once the whole Tootsuki conflict is settled, I'm not sure where else the story could possibly go from there.

They are already close to making it into their second years, and while common shonen logic tells you that Soma needs to get good enough to take the first seat, there's no reasonable way that he's going to beat Eishi before he graduates. Competition-style manga don't generally do time-skips either, so I don't think that we'll be getting any story following Soma after he graduates from Tootsuki. Some people have suggested that the characters might compete with other schools, but seeing as how Tootsuki is supposed to be the best culinary school, that doesn't make much sense and wouldn't do anything to change up the dynamic of this series' formula either way (it'd still be 1v1 cooking battles) against opposing characters.

So, yeah, I could certainly see Food Wars ending sometime within the next 2 or 3 years.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 15, 2016, 11:19:31 AM
As long as it is able to end on its own terms, I'm fine with it ending. I have a feeling there will be one more big arc after this one, but I can't be sure.

As for Kaminari, that's sort of why I wanted Horikoshi to do more with him. He's basically the Joseph Joestar of the series. Not the most intelligent, but quick witted; goofy, but inventive. Since he's been giving focus to the expanded cast recently, I'm glad he's realizing Kaminari's potential. He's always been the character I wanted to see more done with.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 19, 2016, 11:32:25 AM
Both Red Sprite and Love Rush are joining the NA Jump line up. So, yeah, all three Jump Starts were added. Which also means there's one more series running than there was before.

Good chapters this week. I'm happy both MHA and World Trigger finished their battles, but it looks like World Trigger will be going straight to Hyuse next. I don't expect this next round to last long.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on September 19, 2016, 03:50:17 PM
Wow, I wasn't expecting Viz to add all three Jump Starts in this batch.   :SHOCK:

I guess they're more willing to add series now since they want to fill the void of Nisekoi and Bleach.  It's shame Kimetsu no Yaiba hasn't been added yet, but hopefully it will have a chance of joining once Toriko ends if it continues to do well in Japan.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 19, 2016, 10:57:08 PM
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Loved the Kochikame homages in each series this week. I'm half-tempted to hunt down the other ones from the series not in NA Jump.

The issue itself was pretty great too. All delivering either satisfying pay off or building up to exciting things. Didn't expect both Red Sprite and Love Rush to join the lineup, but they'll add some variety so I'm all for it. This is the first time all the Jump Starts in a round have been added, which makes me curious to see just how long they'll all stick around. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on September 20, 2016, 10:32:58 AM
Silver Spoon is going back on hiatus. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-09-20/silver-spoon-manga-goes-back-on-hiatus/.106654)  :'(
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 21, 2016, 08:15:29 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #43 (September 26th, 2016):
Gintama (Cover, Lead CP)
1. My Hero Academia
2. One Piece
The Disastrous Life of Saiki K. (CP)
3. Black Clover
4. The Promised Neverland
5. Food Wars! Shokugeki no Souma
6. Haikyuu!!
Taketoritsuki Monogatari (CP, Golden Future Cup Entry #4)
Red Sprite (Not Ranked)
7. Toriko
Yuna of Yuragi Manor (CP)
8. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
9. World Trigger
Love Rush! (Not Ranked)
10. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
11. Samon the Summoner
12. Hinomaru Zumou
13. Takuan and Batsu's Daily Demon Diary
Chronicle of Isobe -Life is Hard-

Surprising rankings all the way around. It looks like Promised Neverland will be sticking around for a bit longer than I first thought. The only disappointments include Kimetsu no Yaiba at 10 again and Hinomaru Zumou the lowest its ever been (it's lower than KnY has ever been), but otherwise the rest is pretty surprising.

Still, with Kochikame over, and Takuan the first sure cancellation, I'm pretty certain everything is safe this go around.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 21, 2016, 11:04:10 AM
I've been loving Promised Neverland, so I'm glad to see it have a strong debut ranking. Hoping it follows up well in the coming weeks. I'm still really worried for Kimetsu no Yaiba, but I'm crossing my fingers it'll make it past the next cancellation round.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on September 21, 2016, 03:42:15 PM
I'm happy to see that Promised Neverland debuted with a high ranking.  Hopefully, Red Sprite follows suit.  Out of the three jump starts, I think Love Rush is probably going to have the hardest time doing well since it's pretty much competing with Yuna to fill the void left by NisekoiKimetsu no Yaiba isn't ranking ranking too hot but I have hopes that it will have time to recover, especially with Takuan and Samon being on the chopping block.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 22, 2016, 07:51:21 AM
The WSJ issue featuring the final chapter of Kochikame has nearly sold out entirely. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/09/22-1/latest-weekly-shonen-jump-with-kochikame-final-chapter-almost-sold-out)

That gives an idea of just how popular the series was overall. That's a whole other level from something like Bleach which just came and went.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 22, 2016, 10:11:10 AM
It's pretty well loved. The final volume is already being reprinted after only being out for a few days too.

I'm half tempted to pick up that issue of Jump myself for it's historical significance.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on September 22, 2016, 09:46:20 PM
Rin-ne is going to have an "important announcement" in the next Shonen Sunday issue. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2016-09-22/rin-ne-manga-has-super-important-news-on-september-28/.106652)

My guess is that it's either a season 3 of the anime or the manga is ending.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on September 23, 2016, 12:32:21 AM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on September 22, 2016, 09:46:20 PM
Rin-ne is going to have an "important announcement" in the next Shonen Sunday issue. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2016-09-22/rin-ne-manga-has-super-important-news-on-september-28/.106652)

My guess is that it's either a season 3 of the anime or the manga is ending.
Yup, it's a third season announcement for the anime. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-09-23/rumiko-takahashi-rin-ne-manga-gets-3rd-anime-season-in-spring-2017/.106811)

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 23, 2016, 09:16:20 AM
This should cover past what's being scanlated and what's currently been released by Viz, so I'm pretty happy about this. Though I need to finish the second season when I get the time. Especially since they adapted Renge and Matsugo's arcs.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 23, 2016, 09:28:43 AM
My older brother recently caught up with the Rin-ne anime and really liked it. I might check it out once I finally get around to both starting and catching up with Silver Spoon.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 25, 2016, 09:33:19 AM
Kochikame is getting collaborations/crossovers with 11 Jump series before the end of the year. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-09-24/kochikame-manga-gets-collaborations-with-11-shonen-jump-manga-this-year/.106444) Here's hoping some of these pop up in the NA Jump.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 26, 2016, 12:19:14 PM
I have to give Horikoshi credit for letting Bakugo remember what Midoriya told him, and understanding that he has One For All. A lesser writer would have let that fall away. I also like the bit of focus he gave to Aoyama since he had been acting so weird recently (well, compared to usual) and to show how the others passed. I like that he isn't satisfied having them remain one-note.

On another note, I'm hoping Vangeance doesn't turn out to be a villain in Black Clover. I like his backstory and power, it fits in well with the main characters, and it gives him a different angle for a good guy. I do think he is related to Licht, however, and there might be something between them, but I hope he doesn't turn out to be the traitor. Not only would it be way too obvious, the character has more potential than being a villain. Not only would it be too obvious, it would waste one of the better magic knight captains that's not Yami.

World Trigger showed just how good Hyuse is, so it's a real shame that it's off next week. I was hoping we would be getting to the next round right away. Otherwise I'm pretty sure they'll dominate the next match.

I'm glad the pace has slowed down for Red Sprite. It was a much more lax read this week and I like that. I hope it can stick around. We get two chapters next week, so we should be caught up real fast.

I had a feeling that was what happened to Hayama in Food Wars. As soon as I saw him as a Central member, I knew it had to be because of blackmail or coercion. Considering how they operate, I knew he would be one of the easier students to get a hold of. Now I'm eager to see how Soma can win against him without ruining his livelihood. That should be interesting.

Good week of chapters.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 27, 2016, 11:10:25 AM
It was a damn good issue. I really enjoyed every chapter, even Love Rush and Yu-Gi-Oh!, surprisingly. I had trouble figuring out what I wanted to vote for on the survey. Though, Toriko has been a very satisfying experience for me recently. Shimabukuro might be rushing through things, but I can't not love stuff like Toriko punching Acacia so hard he literally circles the entire earth before Toriko catches him without even looking behind his back. Character development has been pretty on-point too. Don't know how much longer the series has, but it should end on a more satisfying note than Bleach did for sure.

Vangeance definitely has more potential than being a flat-out villain, especially in regards to his relationship with Julius and parallels with Yami. It's obvious they're connected somehow, and we know from early on in the series that someone in the Golden Dawn is a member of the Eye of Midnight Sun, but I'm hoping Tabata goes in a direction we don't expect here. Though, I could see a Snape-esque double agent ploy happening with Vangeance at some point.

Outside of NA Jump, the Shinsengumi finally returned in the latest Gintama. Now that all the main characters are back in action, the final battle can truly begin. I wonder if Jump will have both Gintama and Toriko end this year? Then the only pre-2010s series we'd still have in Jump going into 2017 will be One Piece. Crazy to think about how soon that day will come.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 28, 2016, 08:19:51 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #44 (October 3rd, 2016):
Haikyu!! (Cover, Lead CP)
1. My Hero Academia
2. One Piece
Everyone's Kochikame (Mini Series)
Yuna of Yuragi Manor (CP)
3. Black Clover
4. Samon the Summoner
5. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
6. The Promised Neverland
7. Gintama
Nikai Bongai Barabarjura (CP, Golden Future Cup Entry #5)
8. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma (CP)
Red Sprite (Not Ranked)
Voice Be Ambitious (One Shot)
Love Rush! (Not Ranked)
9. Hinomaru Zumou
10. Toriko
11. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
12. Takuan and Batsu's Daily Demon Diary (END)
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~

Well, this is a surprising turn of events. Samon, KnY, and Promised Neverland are all floating near the top. Two new series are starting, which means Kochikame and Takuan & Batsu are the only ended series this round. It's probably a good idea since, as the last two weeks showed, the current series are falling all over the rankings.

Next week is the first ranking of Love Rush, and the premiere of the first new series. Both Samon and Promised Neverland are getting color pages next week. I'm hoping Kimetsu no Yaiba is next. It's about due, and it's been ranking better than Samon for quite some time.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 03, 2016, 12:17:22 PM
These chapters of Red Sprite were so exciting. I really hope the series sticks around now.

I missed World Trigger, but this week's chapters of MHA, Food Wars, and Black Clover made up for them. Also it doesn't hurt that there were two chapters each of Red Sprite and Love Rush. Sort of made up for the otherwise light content.

Also, it looks like we're getting both new series as Jump Starts. I doubt either will be getting added, though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 04, 2016, 08:22:55 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #45 (October 10th, 2016):
Amalgam of Distortion (Cover, Lead CP, New Series)
1. My Hero Academia
2. One Piece
Haikyu!! (CP)
3. Black Clover
4. Gintama
Samon the Summoner (CP)
5. Hinomaru Zumou
6. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
The Promised Neverland (CP)
7. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
8. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
Red Sprite (Not Ranked)
9. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
10. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
11. Love Rush!
12. World Trigger
13. Toriko
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~

Love Rush is not off to a promising start, but at this point it might not matter if it can turn it around. Next week is Red Sprite's first ranking, and I hope it does at least as well as KnY has been doing recently. In other news, I'd say it's fairly obvious that Toriko is on the way out and Gintama is on the way to its climax. I expect them to both end around to December in time for the next batch of new series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on October 08, 2016, 02:08:59 PM
The RWBY manga is being added Viz's Shonen Jump as a monthly series. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-10-08/viz-shonen-jump-to-offer-rwby-manga-in-english/.107422)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 09, 2016, 11:02:53 AM
While I admittedly haven't seen much, based on what I've seen of RWBY, I feel the main appeal of the series seems to be it's incredible animation and action sequences. I've seen a few and was definitely pretty impressed. Trying an episode itself, the series feels...awkward both in terms of voice acting, which often feels off and amateurish, and in how the series appropriates anime cliches but doesn't do anything new with them, and the characters are basically the same archetypes you see in every battle shonen, making for pretty rote storytelling. The manga, of course, could be a different beast and improve on both those fronts while still delivering the cool-looking action scenes the series is known for, so I'm curious about it. It certainly makes sense as a new series for Viz to pick up, as it's a popular property that has widespread appeal but doesn't have 200+ chapters they have to skip to start simulpublishing like Haikyuu!. Though it's curious that they are adding it to the magazine and not the website like they did Dragon Ball Super. Not that I mind to have them add new content to the magazine, of course.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 10, 2016, 12:37:09 PM
A lot of content this week in Jump but a lot of it felt like a bridge to something bigger next week. There wasn't much in the way of big reveals, but it was a pleasant read all told.

Amalgam of Distortion left me with a lot of questions that I hope will be answered, but I think it was a promising start. There was a very heavy Psyren vibe to it. I'm not quite sure why Viz is running it, though. It's not like they have enough room to add it. Still, I threw it a vote. It has potential.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 12, 2016, 10:36:52 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #46 (October 17th, 2016):
Spring Weapon No.1 (Cover, Lead CP, New Series)
1. My Hero Academia
2. Black Clover
Everyone's Kochikame (Mini Series)
Amalgam of Distortion (CP)
3. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
4. The Promised Neverland
Hinomaru Zumou (CP)
5. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
6. Haikyu!!
7. Samon the Summoner
8. World Trigger
9. Love Rush!
10. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
11. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
12. Toriko
13. Red Sprite
14. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
15. Gintama
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~

Well, not a good ranking for Red Sprite's first chapter, but since Love Rush went up from last week, it might be different next chapter. What is surprising is seeing Food Wars and Gintama at the bottom. They must not have been popular chapters. It's great to see KnY back up again and getting a color page next week. It's about due. On the other hand, the Promised Neverland is also holding on strong. It looks like the new line up is holding together quite strong.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on October 12, 2016, 07:15:52 PM
I'm a bit disappointed in Red Sprite's first ranking, but hopefully it will boost up in the next few weeks.  In any case, with Gintama and Toriko both nearing their end, I don't think RS will be at risk for cancellation when the next round of new series starts.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 12, 2016, 08:16:35 PM
I'm thinking we won't see any more cancellations this year unless there are three new series in December (when the new group starts up), which I doubt will be the case. Worst case scenario, one series gets cut. But I'm pretty positive that 2016 has gotten off relatively cut series free compared to previous years.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 17, 2016, 08:17:03 PM
Spring Weapon #1 reminds me of Samon if it were enjoyable. I don't think it'll last but I'll enjoy reading it while it's here.

That chapter of My Hero Academia was quite great. Great character interactions, top notch action, and expressive art. That's why I read the series. The four characters involved (Midoriya, Todoroki, and the other two from opposite schools) should make for interesting character dynamics in this section of the test. Horikoshi continues his roll.

Black Clover, World Trigger, and Red Sprite were also almost as good this week too. If only they would add Kimetsu no Yaiba. Though it's hard to complain since they're currently running one series more than their standard. Most of them are pretty good too.

On the other hand, ever since Viz switched sites, the comments on the official site have been pretty terrible. Nothing but pessimists and aggressive opinions all over the place.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 19, 2016, 09:25:15 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #47 (October 24th, 2016):
One Piece (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Haikyu!!
2. My Hero Academia
Spring Weapon No.1 (CP)
3. Hinomaru Zumou
4. The Promised Neverland
Boruto (CP)
5. Black Clover
Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction (CP)
6. Samon the Summoner
7. Gintama
8. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
Amalgam of Distortion (Not Ranked)
9. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
10. World Trigger
11. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
12. Toriko
13. Red Sprite
14. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
15. Love Rush!
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~

I think that's bad for Love Rush, though Red Sprite isn't any better off. If they're lucky, Gintama and Toriko will be over soon and they can use the time to build their stories up. That's the second week Food Wars is that low, but the recent stuff hasn't been very well liked. It should probably change when we get to the recent chapters since the bear stuff was pretty good, though it matters how the match ends.

Gintama's getting an important announcement again. This is probably saying the ending is probably really soon.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on October 22, 2016, 12:44:24 AM
Vertical Comic's Fall 2016 survey is now up. (https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/2XPTSSW)

They're taking manga suggestions for manga released after 2006, are currently 10 volumes or less, and aren't published by Shuiesha or Gentosha.  I suggested Vector Ball, Historie, and Souboutei.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Markness on October 22, 2016, 09:26:12 AM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on October 22, 2016, 12:44:24 AM
Vertical Comic's Fall 2016 survey is now up. (https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/2XPTSSW)

They're taking manga suggestions for manga released after 2006, are currently 10 volumes or less, and aren't published by Shuiesha or Gentosha.  I suggested Vector Ball, Historie, and Souboutei.

Does Viz ever do surveys like this? I would suggest Ushio and Tora, Kongou Bachou, and Medaka Box in a heart beat.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on October 22, 2016, 02:38:52 PM
Outside of the Weekly Shonen Jump surveys, Viz does some occasional surveys for manga.  The surveys aren't as straightforward about suggesting manga as Vertical's, but I always list some manga suggestions near the end when they ask for additional comments.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 24, 2016, 12:19:46 PM
I threw in a vote for Souboutei. Also gave one to Vectorball and Dungeon Meshi since I know people who are big fans of both.

I'm not sure how likely they are. I'm not sure Vertical has ever picked up anything I've particularly wanted. Still, if Viz won't touch Fujita, and Kodansha aren't releasing Vectorball, then someone should get on it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 26, 2016, 10:10:26 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #48 (October 31st, 2016):
Black Clover (Cover, Lead CP)
One Piece (Not Ranked)
1. World Trigger
Gintama (CP, UDX Exhibition Event Announcement)
2. My Hero Academia
Spring Weapon No. 1 (CP)
Amalgam of Distortion (Not Ranked)
3. Toriko
4. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
The Disastrous Life of Saiki K. (CP)
5. The Promised Neverland
6. Haikyu!!
7. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
8. Samon the Summoner
9. Hinomaru Zumou
10. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma
11. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~ (CP, Music Collab Announcement)
12. Love Rush!
13. Red Sprite

Now this is a completely unexpected ranking. World Trigger I don't think has EVER been that high, and Toriko hasn't been that high in a dog's age. Meanwhile Food Wars is still in an unexciting part. I'm pretty sure Love Rush and Red Sprite are the next out unless Gintama and Toriko end soon. Those are pretty bad rankings. Straighten Up has been hanging in there, but I'm not sure it'll have much longer left at this rate.

Also, MHA volume 11 cover:

Spoiler
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Also, apparently Tsukuda went on twitter to explain about the current Food Wars arc. He said that he knew that a lot of people didn't like it, but felt it was something he had to include anyway. In other words, he must need it to set up for something later. It doesn't excuse the predictable results and the lack of tension, but at least he is aware as to what he's doing and he didn't just lose his storytelling ability. Here's hoping the recent chapters mean he's starting to get back on track.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 28, 2016, 01:31:14 AM
According to Bomber, the flyer for the Gintama UDX exhibition event made it pretty clear that the series was going to end around the time of the event, so it's safe to assume the series will end in the next two to three months. Similarly, after what happened in the most recent Toriko chapter, I feel safe in predicting that it'll end around the same time too. So, Red Sprite and Love Rush might get lucky come December, but considering the direction the latter took in the most recent chapter, I wouldn't be surprised if LR is also going to be on the chopping block. But it'll depend on how many new series debut in December. If it's just two, then LR and RS are safe. But if it's three, then one of them is on the outs, and the one I see going is LR.

It surprises me that Jump is going to let Gintama and Toriko end this year after four big series have already ended this year, but I guess starting 2017 with a fresh slate has a certain appeal. Besides, both have been in their endgames for a while now and it wouldn't make sense to stretch them out another couple months. Best to let them end naturally, on a high note. On that subject, I am glad to see Toriko break into the top three again at least once before it ends, especially since it's been so long. I'm especially happy if that chapter was 385. That one definitely deserves the honor.

I saw that tweet from Tsukuda and, as useless as the twitter translation feature is, based on what I was told from people who could actually japanese that seemed to be the jist of what he was saying. Hopefully the rankings improve with the current match between Soma and Hayama. Since Tsukuda mentioned people being unimpressed by the manga showing it's "predictable side," I'm hoping he'll try and counteract that by showing some major shakeups happen and have some of the other resistors lose to raise the stakes a bit.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 30, 2016, 02:09:42 AM
I've enjoyed what I read of Vigilante. For a spin-off series, it has a quaint sense of humor and heart to it, making it feel like more than a cheap cash-in on MHA's popularity. I also really enjoy the dynamic between the main trio, and I like that the old guy has no quirk but is ultimately still a bad-ass, sort of like this Universe's version of Daredevil. This manga also has a different but equally great sense of humor than the main series.

It looks like the series is getting picked up for a full run on SJ+, and it certainly has a lot of potential, IMO. In the best case scenario, it could make for a great companion piece to the main series, and as the recent chapter demonstrated, it can pull off crossover appearances without feeling contrived and with a full understanding of the character that it features in its narrative based on how they would behave in MHA.

Bottom line, what I read was fun, and this could be a really entertaining series overall, which is honestly more than what I was expecting it to be.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 30, 2016, 10:27:08 AM
I agree it's an excellent expansion piece to the world of MHA, with good humor, interesting characters, and tackling subjects the main series hasn't used yet. The old man in particular is a character I've wanted to see in the series for a while, a quirkless character who takes on supervillains for vigilante justice with brute strength and force of will alone. Really enjoying it so far. I'm hoping Viz adds it to the Shonen Jump website at some point.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 31, 2016, 05:02:33 PM
I hope Viz plans on picking it up soon.

Speaking of MHA, I wasn't expecting the first failure from UA to be Todoroki. But he really did deserve it after blowing it like he did. At this point I'm really wondering who is going to last to the end. There's only one level left to the test, and there's still quite a lot of participants left. Looks like about 89 of them. If Todoroki of all people isn't passing then I can't imagine who will.

World Trigger was great. It's nice to see these little break chapters. Also Kageura spilling the beans about Yuzuru having a crush on Chika was quite out of nowhere and funny. That dude is the character I wanted to learn more about, and it looks like we will very soon.

That was a wacky chapter of Food Wars. That's all I can really say. It isn't as if the result is going to be much of a surprise, though. Black Clover was sort of the same way.

And Spring Weapon has a lot of potential as an action comedy. It just depends on how the characters are handled from here on. I have to say that I got some solid laughs out of this chapter.

Promised Neverland still continues being an interesting read. At this rate I just wonder if they're ever going to get out of there. It will really be an event if they ever do.

Good issue this week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on November 02, 2016, 12:52:29 AM
Toriko will be reaching its climax in the 50th issue of Jump (November 14th) (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-11-02/toriko-gourmet-battle-manga-heads-toward-climax-on-november-14/.108382).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 02, 2016, 09:17:13 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #49 (November 7th, 2016):
Black Clover (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Haikyuu!!
2. One Piece
3. Hinomaru Zumou
Amalgam of Distortion (Not Ranked)
My Hero Academia (CP)
4. The Promised Neverland
Spring Weapon #1 (Not Ranked)
The Disastrous Life of Saiki K. (CP)
5. Toriko
6. World Trigger
7. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
8. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
9. Samon the Summoner
10. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
11. Food Wars! Shokugeki no Soma
12. Gintama
13. Red Sprite
14. Love Rush!
Chronicle of Isobe: The Life is Hard

Next week Toriko is getting 31 pages. A bit odd that it isn't getting color pages for it, though. It was a big deal a while back. On the other hand, with it ending and Gintama ending not far off, Love Rush and Red Sprite could potentially be safe for a while longer. Though they definitely are on the chopping block if there are more than two new series this upcoming round.

So since Toriko is ending, we'll be getting a third new series in our Jump. It'll probably be Amalgam of Distortion or Spring Weapon, but man would I prefer Kimetsu no Yaiba. It's got the potential to stick around longer than any of the other new series.

I'm also thinking with Love Rush's near cancellation that there is no room for other romance series in the magazine. It seems that one is the limit for the readers. Red Sprite is probably also suffering because there are enough battle manga right now. Even with Toriko ending, there is One Piece, MHA, World Trigger, Kimetsu no Yaiba, Black Clover, and Gintama, as series that feature a lot of battles and conflict. That's about half the magazine. I think the reason Food Wars, Hinomaru, Straighten Up, Haikyu, and Saiki, have stuck around so long is because they're entirely different. This is why I think of the two new series, Spring Weapon probably has the chance to last the longest, and why Promised Neverland has done so well. We have a good selection of battle manga right now, there just isn't room for more.

But that's just my theory. I could be completely wrong.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 02, 2016, 10:06:05 AM
I thought for sure it would make it to chapter 400, but at least Toriko is ending on a high note, rebounding in the rankings in it's last few chapters. Shimabukuro held nothing back and it made for quite a ride. I'll miss it.

Love Rush and Red Sprite are definitely suffering from not being distinct enough to stand out against their competition in the magazine. Jump generally hasn't had more than one successful romcom running at the same time, and with how successful Yuna is there's just no room for Love Rush to wriggle in on it's audience. Red Sprite has even more competition from other battle series in Jump. I'm now kind of expecting Amalgam to similarly not last for the same reason.

It'd be nice if Jump added KnY to replace Toriko, but I figure they'll probably just add either Amalgam or Spring Weapon solely because they wouldn't have to worry about getting readers caught up to them. That's probably the biggest reason why they're holding off on putting Haikyuu in Jump, despite the series selling so well for them.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 02, 2016, 10:33:00 AM
I would hope they'd think further ahead than that. If Red Sprite and Love Rush end (along with Toriko), then they move on to Amalgam and Spring Weapon. If they end, then they move on to the next batch of new series. Meanwhile, they're ignoring potential popular series that could bring a big reader base. We almost missed out on MHA because Viz decided not to pick it up for over four volumes of content.

Also, I see some people complaining about the arms thing in Black Clover and saying that there was no build up or consequence to his injury. I think you had to pay attention to what the witch said before she healed his arms. There's going to be a consequence here that is going to come back around soon. It's not just "problem solved" and moving on to the next thing.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 02, 2016, 10:48:46 AM
That's true, but when I think about it from Viz's perspective, it seems to me that it'd be easier for them to take a chance on one of the most recent Jump Starts then jump into the middle of a series that has been going on for a while that they don't know if they want to commit to licensing in the future. Compared to MHA, it's not like KnY does more than okay in sales and rankings, so there's not as much push to put it in and capitalize on "the next big thing" like there was for MHA.

There are people who hate on BC for anything that happens in it. It's pretty clear that the Witch queen will want something in return for healing Asta's arms after all this is over, so they aren't getting out of this consequence free. Though, I would have liked it if Tabata had waited a little longer before Asta arms were healed. I think he missed an opportunity to have it being done during the heat of the battle when things seem the most desperate, rather than doing it before it's begun.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on November 02, 2016, 04:45:54 PM
Personally, I'm fine with Viz continuing to cycle in Jump Starts as full series since it helps bring in a larger variety of series to the magazine, and some of them may end up being big hits like Promised Neverland.  That being said, I think it would be nice if Kimetsu no Yaiba joined the lineup or (at the very least) if Viz picked it up for volume releases.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Markness on November 05, 2016, 11:50:16 AM
Dark Horse is finally publishing volumes 4 and 5 of Drifters (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/10/28/dark-horse-comments-on-drifters-manga-plans)

Ok, Dark Horse, do the same for Blood Blockade Battlefront and Eden It's An Endless World! next. And while you're at it, license All Rounder Meguru and Soft Metal Vampire or give them to Kodansha USA.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 07, 2016, 12:34:36 PM
That reveal in MHA was pretty insane. Does this mean Toga took the place of that girl, or was she always her in the first place? Now that she has Midoriya's blood, what does that mean? Only Todoroki and Bakugo failed their exams of the group too. I have to admit, I thought there were three rounds, but I guess I'm glad there are only two since this means the story can continue.

World Trigger has been on a roll recently so I'm glad the next chapter starts the next Rank War battle. I also hope Osamu's bad feeling doesn't extend to the next round. They need to win this round or they're out, and they still need one more round after it. We need to get to the next arc!

I'm also really digging these reveals in Promised Neverland since they really bring Ray out into the open. They've been really good at fleshing out the three main characters at such an early stage in the manga. Now I'm really eager to see them escape just so I can get a grasp onto where the story is heading. It's really a mystery right now and I think that's why it's doing so well in the rankings. Well, that and it is pretty good.

On the other hand, Food Wars and Black Clover were both transitional chapters. It appears we gotta wait a bit longer to understand where the story is planning on going next. Food Wars is pretty obvious on Soma's side, but what they're going to do with Hayama is important since not everyone is going to survive the transition to the second year.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 09, 2016, 08:58:27 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #50 (November 14th, 2016):
Food Wars! Shokugeki no Soma (Cover/Lead CP, 4th Anniversary)
1. My Hero Academia
2. Haikyuu!!
Hinomaru Zumou (CP)
3. Samon the Summoner
Amalgam of Distortion (Not ranked)
Toriko (31p)
Yuuna of Yuragi Manor (CP)
4. Black Clover
5. Gintama
6. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
Spring Weapon #1 (Not Ranked)
Himitsu Kessha D Tai Phantom Sentouin Entarou (CP, One Shot by Monri Kei)
7. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K
8. The Promised Neverland
9. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
Oneshot (to make up for World Trigger missing)
10. Red Sprite
11. Love Rush (END)
Isobe Isobee Monogatari

Toriko ends next week and Love Rush already wrapped up. So those are the two series to end this round. Can't say much for these rankings except that they're all over the place. Both World Trigger and One Piece are missing this week so it's even screwier. I just hope this isn't a sign for KnY and Promised Neverland.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 09, 2016, 11:08:13 AM
I'm just hoping it's an off week for TPW since it's been ranking well consistently before now. Surprised LR is ending the same week as Toriko. I'd guess Red Sprite's not going to be far behind either.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 09, 2016, 11:30:25 PM
So, Toriko won't be ending next week but the week after (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-11-10/toriko-gourmet-battle-manga-ends-on-november-21/.108667). LR ending next issue makes more sense to me now than if both were ending in the same issue.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 15, 2016, 12:34:47 PM
Welp, looks like not everyone is going to pass in Food Wars! after all! I admit I don't care that much about Nikumi or Takumi's brother, but Arato losing was a real shock, not just because she's one of my favorite characters, but because she's been a genuinely important one, and between any of the characters, her expulsion hurts Erina and the resistance effort the most. Really wondering how Erina is going to react to this, and who else among the resisters might've been expelled. Though I'm going to go out on a limb and say that at least Megumi and Takumi are safe, not only because I think Rindo would probably go easy on them because it would be more fun for her if they were to move on in the test, but also because the latest color page spread showed them with Soma and Erina, which to me implies that they're basically now considered the series "main four" so to speak. I'm definitely expecting some revenge matches against the E10 in the future too, with either Soma or Megumi facing off against Momo, Takumi against Somei, and Erina against Nene.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 16, 2016, 09:34:42 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #51 (November 21st, 2016):
Demon's Plan (Cover, Lead CP, New Series by Yoshimichi Okamoto)
1. One Piece
2. Black Clover
Toriko (CP, END)
Amalgam of Distortion (Not Ranked)
3. Haikyu!!
The Promised Neverland (CP)
4. Samon the Summoner
5. My Hero Academia
6. Gintama
7. Hinomaru Zumou
Boruto (CP)
Spring Weapon No.1 (Not Ranked)
8. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
9. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
10. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
11. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
Oneshot (World Trigger Absence Filler)
12. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
13. Red Sprite
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~

World Trigger is now on hiatus. I hope Ashihara is okay. Next week Samon and KnY are getting color pages. It looks like there's only two new series this time so only Toriko and Love Rush are ending. I would bet the next round will be Gintama and Red Sprite, unless the latter drastically improves in rankings or something drops lower.

I'm honestly just hoping Ashihara is okay, and this hiatus doesn't affect him too badly.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 16, 2016, 05:19:00 PM
I hope Ashihara is able to rest and recover his health without incident. Luckily Jump has been really supportive of him and WT, but it's a shame he needs to go on hiatus right when it started to really hit it's stride in the rankings. At least it hasn't gone on hiatus in the middle of a match so he can resume the series without it being too jarring to readers when it comes back.

FW's low rankings continue to be worrying. Gintama ending and the inevitable cancellation of Red Sprite should give it a buffer, but I'm still concerned it could fall on the chopping block before too long if it continues to flounder. Hopefully the most recent developments pique readers' interest again and help it to climb back to a healthier position in the magazine.

Apparently Amalgam has been well- received by young readers in Japan, so it'll be interesting to see how the first chapter fairs in the rankings.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 19, 2016, 11:47:10 PM
To be honest, I can't really disagree with the rankings for Food Wars lately. Don't get me wrong, I hope that it gets better, but as you all know a lot of readers have had problems with the storytelling in this arc, and I'm among those people in this particular case. I still feel that a lot of this stems from my fundamental problems with Azami as a villain and Central as a concept, but even so there have been good aspects to this arc like Erina's character development and other characters getting time to shine instead of the whole manga just being "Soma-time." That said, it's really telling that the much awaited rematch between Soma and Hayama was as underwhelming as it was. Yes, I know that the mangaka tried to explain it away on twitter, but the fact is that even if he has some interesting plans for later down the line, weak story-telling is weak story-telling, and the most recent arc was pretty lopsided in quality. If it gets better soon, then that's great, but that won't make me or other readers turn a blind eye to what came before it.

In that regard, that's the same way in which I have viewed One Piece for a long time. I'm honestly loving the current arc and it has done a lot to restore my interest and faith in the series, and for the first time in a long time I'm eagerly anticipating each future installment of the series. By no means, though, does that indicate that my opinion on what came before it has changed at all. I still feel that Oda had stagnated his storytelling and characterization for several years leading up to this point, and has now finally managed to hit his groove again. Essentially, I feel largely the same away about Food Wars, especially in this arc.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 21, 2016, 11:30:34 AM
On the other hand, MHA looks like it's readying a big arc coming up. Setting up the villains and their motivations, a clue to what All For One is up to, a hint at Stain returning, Bakugo confronting Midoriya about One For All, and the license exam done. It doesn't look like the status quo is going to hold much longer at this rate. Things are going to turn south soon.

Promised Neverland really likes to keep you on edge, doesn't it? I have a feeling that what Don and Gilda do is going to cause a lot of problems for the main three. And it might cause extra friction between Ray and Norman if the former has to choose sides. I have to admit when it started I wasn't sure it had a clear goal, but every chapter continues to convince me that I was wrong. At this rate it is shaping up to be quite unique. But my judgement will definitely have to wait to see what happens after they escape. That will be the test to see where this is all heading.

Food Wars moving onto Soma's group becoming council of ten members definitely has much potential. It would be interesting to see what it takes to become one and how they go about doing it. I gotta say that Kurokiba and Alice failing was still a bit of a surprise considering how good they are.

Good issue this week. I hope Ashihara feels better soon and can draw again. His missing touch is felt this week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 22, 2016, 09:57:52 AM
Finally, some MHA haters poke their heads out. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=3052659&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0)

And they're Naruto and Bleach fans at that.

QuoteAs soon as I saw all the (Correct) criticism for Boku no hero I knew that Naruto was going to be mentioned. Naruto has nothing to prove its a classic you guys just come off as salty when you try to deflect criticism from Boku no hero by bringing up Naruto. (Put some Respek on it)

Face it Boku no hero while it is enjoyable it's also unoriginal and at times bland, if the author doesn't step up his game its currently popular might just be its peak.
There's that "bland" criticism again. From people who enjoy a series about kid ninjas apparently superheroes is considered unoriginal. Fact is, Naruto is holier than a pair of socks and has many valid flaws to bring up that MHA doesn't.

QuoteIf you think the asspull about Stain's abilities being weak against Deku's type of blood, something that wasn't mentioned before is anything other than poor writing then I don't know what to tell you.

If you think that's a "smart" battle then...

And you keep mocking Naruto but Hero Academia outright rips off Naruto several times, hell the author jerks himself off thinking about Naruto and Kishimoto, he's made it clear a lot of times in interviews or when talking about Naruto.
Naruto fan complains the Stain fight was an "asspull" and that MHA rips off Naruto by . . . being inspired by it.

Right.

QuoteI agree that it's not horrible by any means but if you've been reading battle shonen for a while manga like Hero Academia become just... boring. I wish the author would do SOMETHING original, anything at all.

Not to mention the main character reeks of self insert and it's easily the worst part of the series barring some good scenes, every character in the cast feels the need to jerk him off and the plot always bends his way too.
Character who breaks his bones constantly, has only ever beaten one villain on his own, and is still constantly making mistakes and learning is a self-insert.

You can't make this up.

But here's my favorite criticism:

QuoteTalking is not the problem, manga like HxH or World Trigger have a lot of talking but they use that talking for interesting things for the most part, of course not everything is super serious or talks about strategies and stuff like that in fact they have a lot of goofy moments that are used to develop characters or simply "useless" talk that give you the feeling these characters are alive, but my point is that they have good and well thought dialogue.

Academia doesn't, and the fights are boring because they're not even remotely smart. It was great when Ring ni Kakero did it in the 70's or Hokuto no Ken taking it as inspiration in early 80's but we're in 2016, these mangaka don't even try to put a spin on things people did decades ago.
The fights aren't even remotely smart? I don't have to bring up Naruto or Bleach here, but the fights are organic to the story. Every single move a character does to win an encounter is something they are already capable of doing.

But that's not the weird part of that post.

Read that second part again:

QuoteIt was great when Ring ni Kakero did it in the 70's or Hokuto no Ken taking it as inspiration in early 80's but we're in 2016, these mangaka don't even try to put a spin on things people did decades ago.
Oh no! MHA is on par with two classics of the genre! It creates situations based on characters and how they naturally react to them! What a bland series that clearly doesn't deserve the attention it gets!

Okay, I won't say MHA is perfect. Sometimes the pace is too fast when I'd like to see the story linger on a plot point or scene, until recently we rarely spent time with characters other than the usual characters (Yaoyarozu, Kirishima, and Kaminari, in particular were great to learn more about), the beginning chapters whipped through introductions really fast, and All Might and Aizawa are still really the only adult heroes we know much about. It's not a perfect series, but its flaws are not as deep as "classics" like Naruto and Bleach.

I would welcome actual criticism of this series, but right now a lot of it is from Naruto and Bleach fans that are upset people seen to like MHA more, and have reasons for preferring it to their favorites. Fact is, a lot of older fans (like those of Ring ni Kakero and Fist of the North Star) like this series a lot in a way they didn't like Naruto and its general age of battle shonen series. If you want us older fans to rethink our opinions on the series with the best writing in Jump right now then you might want to give a solid reason as to how its worse than we give it credit for.

It might just be me, but I've seen way too much propping up of Naruto, Bleach, and battle series of that age, by people who have told me that Dragon Ball, Yu Yu Hakusho, Saint Seiya, JoJo, City Hunter, and others, are simply outdated and no longer what people want. So when people start buying a series modeled off those old shonen (though inspired by Naruto, too) instead of following the tropes from the era of Hitman Reborn and Bleach, thereby proving their assertions wrong, I can't help but shake my head. The fact is that those series are considered classics for a reason and people obviously want more like them.

I'm not going to say these people are wrong for disliking MHA. I just wish they would put some thought into their criticisms.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on November 22, 2016, 10:02:00 AM
Anime News Network, let alone its forum, isn't particularly ripe for constructive criticism.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 22, 2016, 10:09:29 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #52 (November 28th, 2016):
Ole Golazo (Cover, Lead CP, New Series by Takamasa Moue)
1. One Piece
2. The Promised Neverland
Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction (CP)
3. Haikyu!!
4. My Hero Academia
Demon's Plan (CP)
5. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma
6. Black Clover
Samon the Summoner (CP)
7. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
8. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
9. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
10. Gintama
11. Hinomaru Zumou
12. Amalgam of Distortion
Tera-chan (Oneshot)
Spring Weapon No.1 (Not Ranked)
13. Red Sprite (END)
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~

Red Sprite has also ended. It looks like there's an additional open slot in Jump now. It's not looking good for Amalgam either.

I heard a criticism that the new battle manga series are simply not very creative, and I think that is valid. They haven't really offered anything new something in Jump wasn't already offering. For instance Demon's Plan was unfocused when its best trait was the Getbackers-like bro relationship between the main characters. Everything around it was nothing I haven't seen a hundred times before. The last really creative battle manga was Kimetsu no Yaiba by focusing on an almost early-80s style of art and direction which gave it a fresh execution. The fact is that Jump might want to lay off on the new battle manga for now. The line up is currently as good as its going to get and should instead have some muscle put behind promoting them. Instead they might want to focus on more unique series like Promised Neverland, or Food Wars. That new sports manga might do the trick.

Oh, and good to see Promised Neverland so high. It's definitely getting better and better.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 22, 2016, 10:10:21 AM
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on November 22, 2016, 10:02:00 AM
Anime News Network, let alone its forum, isn't particularly ripe for constructive criticism.
Not at all, true.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on November 22, 2016, 03:52:28 PM
Man, it's a good thing that Viz's Jump has RWBY and Jump Start chapters for the next few weeks, otherwise they'd be down to only 5 weekly series right now (at least until WT comes back).  At this point, Viz should just add Kimetsu no Yaiba and (maybe) Samon to the magazine.  Both of them seem like they'll be around for awhile, and they're definitely getting pushed a lot in Japan.  Demon's Plan seems to be getting quite a bit of attention online, so I'm curious to see how it does in the rankings.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 23, 2016, 09:40:57 AM
Samon's sales haven't improved at all, but I think Jump is banking on an anime for it when it gets more material under the covers. Gintama's director has made his interest known. I'm pretty sure it'll stick around at least into its next anniversary.

KnY has been improving in sales and recently got second printings of its first two volumes. Its rankings still remain good as well which means it will most likely be around for a while. Viz really should pick this up now.

Not sure there's anything else to pick up. It doesn't look like any of these new series will catch on, and the longer they wait to pick up older ones the more problems they'll have catching up. Hinomaru is probably going to end on its own next year, Straighten Up could end at almost any time. Yuna isn't going to be in the magazine due to ecchi not being popular, and Saiki is way too old to jump into now. They could pick any of those up for normal volume releases, but its a risk to choose them for weekly serialization. Unless that soccer manga is a hit I don't think there's anything else to run right now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 28, 2016, 01:53:46 PM
I quite enjoyed the first chapter of Ole Golazo. It would be nice to have another sports manga running weekly, but who is to say it'll last?

MHA has been getting oddly serious recently. Something tells me that this fight will be a pretty big turning point. As long as Horikoshi doesn't take this in a Naruto Vs. Sasuke direction anyway. I doubt he would do that, but that would be the worst place to take their friendship.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 29, 2016, 10:52:13 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #1 (December 5th, 2016):
One Piece (Cover, Lead CP)
1. My Hero Academia
2. Black Clover
3. Haikyuu!!
4. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
Ole Golazo (CP)
5. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
6. Hinomaru Zumou
The Promised Neverland (CP)
7. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
Demon's Plan (Not Ranked)
Watashi ga Koshien ni Tsure Tettaru! (One Shot)
Hiseiki Koyo Shinigami Pamapama (One Shot)
8. Food Wars! Shokugeki no Souma
Shikori Dama! (One Shot)
9. Spring Weapon #1
10. Samon the Summoner
11. The Disatrous Life of Saiki K
12. Gintama
13. Amalgam of Distortion
Isobe Isobee Monogatari

Not the best start for Spring Weapon, but it's much better than Amalgam, which doesn't seem to be making a splash. Otherwise it's a pretty good set of rankings.

I'm still hoping Viz doesn't just blindly grab the two newest series to run. There are a few other choices they should be looking into.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 30, 2016, 01:44:23 PM
Top selling Manga series of 2016 (I think it's worldwide) (http://textup.fr/182575np):

01) One Piece (12 314 326)
02) Assassination Classroom (6 887 192)
03) Kingdom (6 595 968)
04) Attack on Titan (6 544 081)
05) Haikyu!! (6 474 394)
06) Seven Deadly Sins (5 115 573)
07) My Hero Academia (5 114 916)
08) Tokyo Ghoul:re (4 278 599)
09) One-Punch Man (3 979 760)
10) Food Wars (3 477 128)
11) Chihayafuru (3 019 944)
12) Terra Formars (3 013 816)
13) Fairy Tail (2 719 478)
14) Detective Conan (2 622 350)
15) Erased (2 507 468)
16) Prison School (2 449 593)
17) Bleach (2 253 028)
18) World Trigger (2 234 851)
19) Gintama (2 231 751)
20) Magi - The Labyrinth of Magic (2 215 458)
21) Daiya no A - Act II (2 034 806)
22) Sawako (2 021 612)
23) Days (1 986 335)
24) Nisekoi (1 914 613)
25) Bungou Stray Dogs (1 879 623)
26) Golden Kamuy (1 835 668)
27) Major 2nd (1 816 669)
28) Orange (1 809 055)
29) Seraph of The End (1 735 680)
30) Ajin (1 679 180)

Not the most surprising list, but interesting to see.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on November 30, 2016, 04:43:58 PM
If I recall, the top-selling manga list that Oricon releases every year is only reflective of sales in Japan rather than worldwide.  It's nice to see that Assassination Classroom ended its final year at #2.  Detective Conan also managed to make it into the top 20 this year, and its sales are the highest it has been in the past 5 years.  Besides those, Attack on Titan, One Punch Man, Seven Deadly Sins, and My Hero Academia will probably continue to do just as well (if not better) next year since they will all be getting new anime seasons in 2017.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 30, 2016, 08:10:48 PM
Also furthers my suspicion that World Trigger fans are a quiet bunch. It outsold Magi and Gintama, and almost sold on par with Bleach, yet no one talks about it much.

Here's hoping the hiatus doesn't hurt it badly.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 04, 2016, 03:12:33 PM
Even though I'm not doing Shonen Jump reviews anymore, I still kept track and noted my weekly surveys, MVPs, and favorite lines throughout the year. With the 2016 calendar year of Jump over, I thought it would be fun to share my survey results, MVPS, and quotes from each issue of this year.

My Weekly WSJ Surveys 2016:

Spoiler

Issue 1:

My Hero Academia
Blue Exorcist
Nisekoi
One Piece

Issue 2:

Nisekoi
Toriko
My Hero Academia
Black Clover

Issue 3/4:

Nisekoi
My Hero Academia
Black Clover
One Piece

Issue 5/6:

Nisekoi
One Piece
My Hero Academia
Black Clover

Bonus Issue 1/11:

One-Punch Man
Blue Exorcist
Muyho & Ryoji
Seraph of the End

Issue 7:

Black Clover
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Food Wars!

Issue 8:

Black Clover
One Piece
My Hero Academia
Nisekoi

Issue 9:

My Hero Academia
Black Clover
Nisekoi
World Trigger

Issue 10:

World Trigger
Black Clover
My Hero Academia
Toriko

Issue 11:

Kimetsu no Yaiba
Black Clover
One Piece
My Hero Academia
 
Issue 12:

Toriko
Nisekoi
One-Punch Man
My Hero Academia

Issue 13:

My Hero Academia
One Piece
World Trigger
Kimetsu no Yaiba

Issue 14:

One Piece
World Trigger
Blue Exorcist
My Hero Academia

Issue 15:

My Hero Academia
World Trigger
One-Punch Man
Nisekoi

Issue 16:

Toriko
Food Wars!
My Hero Academia
Nisekoi

Issue 17:

Toriko
Food Wars!
My Hero Academia
World Trigger

Issue 18:

My Hero Academia
One Piece
Nisekoi
Blue Exorcist

Issue 19:

Toriko
World Trigger
My Hero Academia
Black Clover

Issue 20:

Toriko
Hunter X Hunter
My Hero Academia
Assassination Classroom: Side Story

Issue 21/22:

My Hero Academia
Assassination Classroom: Side Story
Nisekoi
Toriko

Issue 23:

Blue Exorcist
World Trigger
Toriko
My Hero Academia

Issue 24:

Nisekoi
World Trigger
My Hero Academia
Toriko

Issue 25:

World Trigger
My Hero Academia
Toriko
One Piece

Issue 26:

My Hero Academia
World Trigger
Toriko
Food Wars!

Issue 27:

My Hero Academia
Black Clover
Food Wars!
Hunter X Hunter

Issue 28:

My Hero Academia
Food Wars!
Hunter X Hunter
Black Clover

Issue 29:

Nisekoi
Food Wars!
Black Clover
My Hero Academia

Issue 30:

Nisekoi
My Hero Academia
Toriko
Black Clover

Issue 31:

Nisekoi
My Hero Academia
Toriko
Black Clover

Issue 32:

Nisekoi
Toriko
Black Clover
My Hero Academia

Issue 33:

Nisekoi
Black Clover
Food Wars!
My Hero Academia

Issue 34:

Nisekoi
One Piece
Black Clover
Toriko

Issue 35:

The Promised Neverland
Toriko
Food Wars!
My Hero Academia

Issue 36/37:

The Promised Neverland
Food Wars!
Black Clover
Blue Exorcist

Issue 38:

The Promised Neverland
Toriko
Food Wars!
My Hero Academia

Issue 39:

The Promised Neverland
Toriko
My Hero Academia
Love Rush

Issue 40:

Toriko
The Promised Neverland
My Hero Academia
Red Sprite

Issue 41:

The Promised Neverland
Toriko
Food Wars!
My Hero Academia

Issue 42:

World Trigger
One Piece
Black Clover
The Promised Neverland

Issue 43:

Toriko
One Piece
Black Clover
Food Wars!

Issue 44:

The Promised Neverland
One Piece
Black Clover
Food Wars!

Issue 45:

Toriko
Amalgam of Distortion
The Promised Neverland
Black Clover

Issue 46:

Toriko
Spring Weapon No. 1
Love Rush
Amalgam of Distortion

Issue 47:

Toriko
The Promised Neverland
Boruto
World Trigger

Issue 48:

Toriko
One Piece
Love Rush
Spring Weapon No. 01

Issue 49:

Toriko
The Promised Neverland
Red Sprite
Food Wars!

Issue 50:

Toriko
Love Rush
Food Wars!
One-Punch Man

Issue 51:

Toriko
My Hero Academia
One Piece
Demon's Plan

Issue 52:

One Piece
The Promised Neverland
My Hero Academia
Ole Golazo

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I don't have the time to crunch to numbers, but I think it's safe to say that Toriko, My Hero Academia, Nisekoi, and The Promised Neverland were my clear favorites in Jump this year, considering how many times each appears on the survey, many of them ranking first for several weeks in a row.

My Weekly WSJ MVPs 2016 (in order from left to right, minus bonus issue):

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(https://68.media.tumblr.com/cb4ee2f01865a959c07c1eebfd86d4a7/tumblr_ohliacUiUG1r6toezo1_640.jpg)
(https://68.media.tumblr.com/c2c08fb2d50af2089bf249d6df931b3b/tumblr_ohliacUiUG1r6toezo2_640.jpg)

Issue 1 - Yukio Okamura (Blue Exorcist)
Issue 2 - Asardy (Toriko)
Issue 3/4 - Raku Ichijo (Nisekoi)
Issue 5/6 - Gauche (Black Clover)
Bonus Issue 1/11 - Blizzard (One-Punch Man)
Issue 7 - Gauche (Black Clover)
Issue 8 - Sanji Vinsmoke (One Piece)
Issue 9 - Yami (Black Clover)
Issue 10 - Neo (Toriko)
Issue 11 - Seishiro Tsugumi (Nisekoi)
Issue 12 - Don Slime (Toriko)
Issue 13 - Akira Toya (Hikaru no Go)
Issue 14 - Shu Maiko (Nisekoi)
Issue 15 - Hyuse (World Trigger)
Issue 16 - Ryo Kurokiba (Food Wars!)
Issue 17 - Alice Nakiri (Food Wars!)
Issue 18 - Bakugo (My Hero Academia)
Issue 19 - Erina Nakiri (Food Wars!)
Issue 20 - Noelle Silva (Black Clover)
Issue 21/22 - Chrollo Lucifer (Hunter X Hunter)
Issue 23 - Kuniharu Kakizaki (World Trigger)
Issue 24 - Takuan (Takuan and Batsu's Daily Demon Diary)
Issue 25 - Hana Somei (World Trigger)
Issue 26 - All Might (My Hero Academia)
Issue 27 - All Might (My Hero Academia)
Issue 28 - Hisoka (Hunter X Hunter)
Issue 29 - Erina Nakiri (Food Wars!)
Issue 30 - Seishiro Tsugumi (Nisekoi)
Issue 31 - Mrs. Midoriya (My Hero Academia)
Issue 32 - Kosaki Onodera (Nisekoi)
Issue 33 - Tsuyu (My Hero Academia)
Issue 34 - Sosuke Aizen (Bleach)
Issue 35 - Izuku "Deku" Midoriya (My Hero Academia)
Issue 36/37 - Lightning (Blue Exorcist)
Issue 38 - Mom (Promised Neverland)
Issue 39 - Ray (Promised Neverland)
Issue 40 - Midora (Toriko)
Issue 41 - Tatsu (Red Sprite)
Issue 42 - Kaminari Denki (My Hero Academia)
Issue 43 - Aoyama (My Hero Academia)
Issue 44 - Shizuku (Love Rush)
Issue 45 - Alfred (Red Sprite)
Issue 46 - Zeroichi Namba (Spring Weapon No. 01)
Issue 47 - Gilda (Promised Neverland)
Issue 48 - Shizuku (Love Rush)
Issue 49 - Ray (Promised Neverland)
Issue 50 - Twice (My Hero Academia)
Issue 51 - Noelle Silva (Black Cover)
Issue 52 - Big Mom (One Piece)
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Curiously enough, there are only 7 characters I ranked MVP more than once this year, and none more than twice. The characters I ranked twice this year were Gauche (Black Clover), Noelle Silva (Black Clover), Seishiro Tsugumi (Nisekoi), Erina Nakiri (Food Wars!), All Might (My Hero Academia), Ray (The Promised Neverland), and Shizuku (Love Rush), and those are basically the characters I'd say were my top favorites to follow this year give or take some. But even though I only ranked him MVP once, my MVP of the year was hands down Midora from Toriko. I've been a fan of him for years, and I was incredibly satisfied with his character arc and the cathartic place it ended. Both chapters 385 and 395 of Toriko now rank as two of my all time favorite manga chapters because of how incredible the payoff to his character arc was in those.

My WSJ Lines of the Year 2016:

Spoiler

Issue 1 - "Whoo, them's some bug-ugly panties. Crack-stained too." - Yusuke Urameshi (Yu Yu Hakusho)

Issue 2 - "So tough. So freakin' bad-ass...and you die in traffic?! That's a wimp's death! I didn't raise no wimp!" - Atsuko Urameshi (Yu Yu Hakusho)

Issue 3/4 - "Girls like photo stickers!" - Chitoge Kirisaki (Nisekoi)

Issue 5/6 - Erina Nakiri:  "Hisako, do you know How to operate a washing machine?"
Hisako Arato: "A washing machine? Well...yes. Of course."
Erina Nakiri: "Oh...that's amazing." - Food Wars!

Bonus Issue 1/11 - "But your life is one of stoic battle! Can you win at video games?!" - Hellish Blizzard (One-Punch Man)

Issue 7 - "All I can say is viva physical minktimacy!" - Sanji Vinsmoke (One Piece)

Issue 8 - "Hurt me more! That's what makes me feel truly alive!" - Shun Kurosaki (Yu-Gi-Oh! Arc-V)

Issue 9 - "Shaddup! Your face is scary!!! Why are there lines on your face?!" -Yami Sukehiro (Black Clover)

Issue 10 - "She ripped the hands off her own stuffed animal to use them as oven mitts...no matter how often I see that, it still disturbs me." - Kakinoshin Oizumi (Food Wars!)

Issue 11 - "That you feel the need to keep praising yourself with words like "elite" and "superstar"...tells me that you have little to no confidence in your own abilities." - Takumi Aldini (Food Wars!)

Issue 12 - Kisuke Urahara: "Shunryu Kokubyo Senki (Thunderous Black Cat Battle Princess)...is what it's called."
Askin Nakk Le Var: "Okay, but...why are you telling me...? Can she not...understand what I'm saying right now?" - Bleach

Issue 13 - "Every man...loves ninja!" - Franky (One Piece)

Issue 14 - "I am Oden! I was born to boil!" - Kozuki Oden (One Piece)

Issue 15 - "It's the Ninja-Pirate-Mink-Samurai Alliance!!!"
"That's so long!!"
"Do we need the "ninja" part?"
"Yes, obviously!!!"
One Piece

Issue 16 - Cat Viper: "Back then, he way always searching' for this one pirate crew"
Brook: "That was my crew, and they're all dead now!!"
Cat Viper: "WHAAAT?!!"
One Piece

Issue 17 - "What's wrong, Marika? You look pale. Did the artist forget to color you?" - Chitoge Kirisaki (Nisekoi)

Issue 18 - "B-but that would be against the rules! If I used my quirk willy-nilly like that, then the circulation of goods would...right! One citizen shouldn't abuse their power to affect...the economy!" - Yaoyorozu (My Hero Academia)

Issue 19 - "Sheesh. Why is it that all chefs all such self-centered egomaniacs?" - Soma Yuhihira (Food Wars!)

Issue 20 - Carrot: "Truly the ocean is a wonderland!"
Pekoms: "It's sea, not land." - One Piece

Issue 21/22 - "Luffy...rice is inedible unless you cook it." - Nami (One Piece)

Issue 23 - "It's so very hot...I think I might turn into a mummy. A mummy...Nami, do you suppose that would count as a rejuvenation for me?"
Brook (One Piece)

Issue 24 - "For every crime, a punishment!! For every crotch, a crotch!!" - Batsu Enma (Takuan & Batsu's Daily Demon Diary)

Issue 25 - Kiato: "Ha ha! You think You'll get anywhere by aping me?!"
Asta: "Ook-ook!! Don't sell monkeys short!"
Black Clover

Issue 26 -  "Tomura Shigaraki is Nana Shimura's grandson. And he's hated you this whole time."
- All For One (My Hero Academia)

Issue 27 - "I'm sure you understand now. You cannot escape. Your fate is like that of stagnant dishwater."
Acacia (Toriko)

Issue 28 - "People who think there's only one right answer...probably won't go on to discover something better." - Soma Yukihira (Food Wars!)

Issue 29 -
"If she's going to get hurt...then she should go ahead and get hurt good and deep. No matter how badly she gets hurt...she'll come out of it eventually. She'll get back on her feet and show us that smile again." - Seishiro Tsugumi (Nisekoi)

Issue 30 -
"But... when someone has loved someone with strong faith for years and years...well, there's something touching about that to whoever witnesses it. And still...even if it's shorter...even if it free out of something else...if someone genuinely loves one another...I see the beauty in that too." - Shu Maiko (Nisekoi)

Issue 31 -
"I shall single out...the moment of your greatest happiness in the coming future...and kill you then. From now on...every time you feel joy, you will recall my words. And each time...you will taste the fear of death you've been promised. Forever." - Ywach (Bleach)

Issue 32 - "It's like we've been thrown smack-dab into the middle of a battle against a final boss!! Like having a bunch of natural disasters on display!! Even the battle sound effects are totally music of a final boss!" - Zonge (Toriko)

Issue 33 - "It's not about benefit. Crushing those...who try to control me is always the only reason I take action." - Sosuke Aizen (Bleach)

Issue 34 - "He's a demon...who devours everything, even despair!" - Vetto (Black Clover)

Issue 35 - "Ain't it dazzling? The light of new life...and the fading of yours." - Capone Beige (One Piece)

Issue 36/37 - Chitoge: "Ouch! Watch the teeth! Hey...is that the best you can do?"
Raku: "Huh?! Sheesh! What do you want from me?! It's our first time...!!" - Nisekoi

Issue 38 - "Such a poor appetite. Are you on a diet or something? Acacia." - Midora (Toriko)

Issue 39 - "Standing around smiling in the middle of a crisis? Kind weird. But also kind cool" - Shiketsu High Girl (My Hero Academia)

Issue 40 - "I mean, once you beat Hayama, you'll be the new ninth seat, right? Then once you're on the council, you can take me up on a shokugeki so I can beat you and take your place. See? Everybody wins!" - Kuga (Food Wars!)

Issue 41 - All Might: "Just like last year, we're gonna do everyone's favorite activity!"
Uraraka: "Mochi pounding!!"
All Might: "No, not that."
Bakugo: "Slaughter and destruction!"
All Might: "I sure hope you didn't do that last year."
Mineta: "Sticking our faces between some heavenly thighs."
All Might: "Stop listing the things you want to do!"
My Hero Academia

Issue 42 - Charmy: "What's this creature? Are you yummy?"
Asta: "Miz Charmy! That's a spirit! Don't eat her!" - Black Clover

Issue 43 - "Here's a thought. Why do you think we eat? To stay alive? To leave behind descendants? Wrong. It's only because we get hungry. We don't eat so that our species will prosper. Nor to share something with others. Appetite is more self-centered than that. It's an absolute desire that's put first before anything else. Even if you wanted to die...your hunger wouldn't stop." - Acacia (Toriko)

Issue 44 - Sheila: "Hey, Berta? I think the other guy is hotter."
Berta: "I think you're right, Sheila. The other guy is hotter."
Sheila: "But y'know what? I don't think I'm into guys that are too hot. This one's rough around the edges, but he seems like the faithful type."
Berta: "Oh, Sheila, you don't know anything! Guys like that are the type to get really pig headed about things when they fall in love"
Sheila: "Ya think? Then I guess I'll root for the hot guy too."
Sheila & Berta: "Good luck, Mr. Hot Guy!"
Soma: "Wow, we haven't even started and I already feel like I've lost."
Kuga: "Whoa, whoa, whoa! Dojima senpai! These impartial judges of yours aren't acting very impartial!" - Food Wars!

Issue 45 - "A man can't kick a woman!!! It's been the rule since the age of the dinosaurs!! Listen up...you can make all kinds of mistakes as a human being!! But if you ever set foot off the path of a proper man...then I'll cut off your balls...and slit my own throat!" - Zeff (One Piece)

Issue 46 - "OMG!! What's going on?! Reiji was abducted...and now he's topless and yelling at Tsukimi about love...and he's topless...he's topless...and...topless...!!" - Kokoro (Love Rush)

Issue 47 - Namba: "This place is a prison!! Where're the manga?! The tv?! the video games?!"
Hokuto: "Sh-shut up!! Those things aren't essential to my mission..."
Namba: "No! This can't be my glorious high school life!" - Spring Weapon No. 01

Issue 48 - Pair: "Ooh..I'm sorry...I'm drooling from my eyes..."
Acacia: "...Those...are tears, Pair"
-Toriko

Issue 49 - "I wanna go home. I wanna be that person who watches videos of kittens all day long on the internet." - Ruby Rose (RWBY)

Issue 50 - Priest: "You may now lay a full one on the bride. 'Til everyone else loses their appetite." Priest (Toriko)

Issue 51 - Komatsu: "You think there might be frying pans and stewing pots for cooking planets out there too?"
Toriko: "Apparently there are."
Komatsu: "There are?!"
-Toriko

Issue 52 - "This is a stupid story, Big Mom! It was Lola who didn't get married...and it's you who failed to become king of the pirates!! Here I am, picking another fight with you! I'm not backing down just because you're one of the Four Emperors!! I'm going to take Sanji back..and at the end of the day...we're gonna win!!" - Monkey D. Luffy (One Piece)
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So from the looks of it, the most quotable series this year were One Piece and Toriko, but there really were a ton of memorable lines in every WSJ series this year that are fun to think about and bring up in nerdy conversation.

I also kept track and saved my favorite pages and panels from Jump this year, but it'd be a pain to post them all so I'll only do it if you guys are actually interested.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 05, 2016, 11:57:00 AM
Promised Neverland's first volume run is rumored to be at 120,000. That's pretty great for a new series. It should be sticking around for a while now. Which is god because the recent chapter was great. It's been on such a good run recently. The ending of this chapter is not a good sign for what may transpire next for our heroes.

Short chapter of MHA, but it was a great one. Bakugo blames himself for what happened to All Might and has no idea how to make up for it. He thinks his weakness is because his way of being a hero was wrong and he needs to reevaluate. If that's the case then he definitely needs to lose this fight. It might be a meaningless battle from Midoriya's perspective, as he doesn't gain anything, but it is crucial for Bakugo that he lose. He needs a better path at becoming a hero and he can't do it like this.

I don't want to get too attached to Ole Golazo, but I do like this one quite a bit. It's got a good sense of humor, and the main characters are well defined. Really hope we see some strategic soccer games like they've been hinting at.

Food Wars recent chapter was the best they've had in a good while. Really enjoyed the back story and the hope that we'll see more training. I do really enjoy those segments in Food Wars a good deal. If they can get half the seats on the Council of Ten then there's a lot of interesting conflict that could come of it.

Good issue. I just hope Viz is planning on adding something other than Demon's Plan soon.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 05, 2016, 05:48:42 PM
I'm pretty sure Viz is going to end up adding Demon's Plan and Ole Golazo since they're low-risk for them to simulpub.  Since there will still be one more space to fill beyond that and we still don't have a return date for World Trigger, I could see them potentially adding one more series like Kimetsu no Yaiba since the series seems like it will be staying in the magazine for quite a while. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 07, 2016, 10:08:21 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #2/3 (December 7th/14th, 2016):
Haikyuu!! (Cover, Lead CP)
1. One Piece
2. My Hero Academia
3. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
Zutsuke! Yokohama Ouka Koukou XXxX-bu (CP, One Shot)
Demon's Plan (Not Ranked)
Black Clover (CP)
Ole Golazo (Not Ranked)
4. The Promised Neverland
5. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
6. Gintama
Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction (CP)
7. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
Shikori Dama! (One Shot)
8. Samon the Summoner
9. Hinomaru Zumou
10. Food Wars! Shokugeki no Souma
11. Spring Weapon Number One
12. Amalgam of Distortion
Isobe Isobee Monogatari

Some unexpected stuff in there! Straighten Up hasn't ever been that high as far as I know. Looks like the new series are once again not going to make it. Still, I'm glad to see that KnY, Straighten Up, and Promised Neverland have survived the year. It has been a long year for Jump with a lot of series ending (and Gintama is still nearly there) but it was good to see some series with potential get a chance to flourish. Especially KnY since I wasn't expecting it to make it so far. Still, can't say I'm not happy for it. I'm also surprised Samon survived since its sales haven't increased and it has been ranked low rather consistently, but it isn't like there were more likely series it should have been canceled over. Yuna has obviously taken Nisekoi's place as the new romance series and will be around for a while.

MHA gets the next cover, and we still don't know what happened to Ashihara.

In regards to Promised Neverland, I saw this interesting comment:

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N - Norman
E - Emma
V - ?
E - Eugene *new*
R - Ray
L - Lani (Ranni)
A - Anna
N - Nat
D - Don
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I'm not sure if there's anything to it, but that would be interesting if it were the case.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 08, 2016, 09:57:56 AM
One Piece 20th Anniversary Cover:

(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg1.ak.crunchyroll.com%2Fi%2Fspire3%2F8a43a11dc9a0a532cd2456661cefb7271481180529_full.jpg&hash=7e886b59c5c4932816c48a834c71fed7f8843a37)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 12, 2016, 11:10:37 AM
Black Clover is going to have a special announcement at Jump Festa this year. (https://twitter.com/yonkouprod/status/808336546642300928)

More than likely, they'll announce that Xebec is working on a TV anime adaption. 

I didn't comment on last week's rankings but I'm surprised at how well Straighten Up placed.  I'm not sure how much longer the series will last, but it will probably make it to 100 chapters (I think it's at 80 currently), which will be an achievement in its own right.  Yuna has definetly filled Nisekoi's niche in Japan.  From the little I have read of it, I highly doubt Viz will ever release it due to its ecchi content, but it does seem to be a pretty funny series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 12, 2016, 03:48:05 PM
This issue was incredibly short. Viz really needs to grab some series because if it wasn't for OPM and RWBY, this would have been the shortest issue in ages.

They didn't add Demon's Plan since I'm pretty sure reception was fairly negative, but I hope Ole Golazo has a chance. That was an enjoyable read. Also really good chapters oh MHA, Promised Neverland, and Food Wars. They easily made up for the shortness of this week's issue.

Oh, and they're running the Rurouni Kenshin sequel/spin-off pair of chapters next week. Should be good.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 12, 2016, 04:18:03 PM
Demon's Plan's reception has seemed more so mixed rather than negative.  I think Viz is likely waiting to see how it does in Japan before choosing whether or not to add it to the magazine. 

Excluding RWBY (since it will be a monthly series by the end of next month), Viz's Jump only has 5 weekly series right now.  Hopefully they will decide on some replacements by January. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 16, 2016, 01:21:58 PM
Black Lagoon will finally be returning from hiatus in Spring 2017. (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-12-16/rei-hiroe-resumes-black-lagoon-manga-in-spring-works-on-original-anime/.109939)

Hopefully, Rei Hiroe will be returning to a more regular release schedule with the series.  Otherwise, I hope he at least finishes the Wired Red Wild Card arc before he goes on another break.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on December 16, 2016, 03:52:25 PM
Me too. I want new Black Lagoon anime.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 18, 2016, 04:13:51 PM
So, it has been confirmed by Oda's editor that the Whole Cake Island arc is about halfway done (meaning that it should wrap up by the Summer), and that we will be getting both the Reverie and the Wano arc next year.

The hype levels are off the charts for anyone who has been following One Piece for years, such as myself. That said, there's no way that the Wano arc could be anything other than a mega-sized arc, so it will have to come after the Reverie arc. The Reverie arc itself I can see being both incredibly significant but also understandably short, since it won't be involving any of the Straw Hat Pirates directly. This one I could see lasting about a dozen chapters or so to more or less establish what goes down without showing us too much detail to leave a mystery for readers to decipher everything (remember, Oda brilliantly did this before with the Ace Vs. Blackbeard fight). I know that CX has speculated that Crocodile will crash the Reverie, and while he may be involved in some way, if anyone is going to be the driving force behind crashing the Reverie, I'm calling it now that it's going to be Dragon, Ivankov, and the rest of the Revolutionary Army.

On a side note, if the WCI arc is already half-way done, then there's no way that Big Mom will be defeated before it's over. Most likely, the arc will climax with Sanji redeeming himself by sticking it to his family in a big way, thus bringing his current character arc to its natural conclusion for this point in the story. Most likely, the Straw Hats on WCI will then most likely regroup and escape in order to join the rest of their crew and allies down at Wanokuni. What's going to be awesome is that not only will they be reuniting with most of the Supernovas in that arc, but it has already been heavily hinted at that a lot of big league characters will be present for that story-line, making for an all-out battle zone with Kaido and his forces. We're essentially gearing up for another Marineford-level event in the story, and you bet your ass that I'm beyond excited for it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 19, 2016, 03:56:42 PM
The RWBY manga will reach its "climax" in January. (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-12-19/rwby-manga-enters-climax-in-january/.110084)

So, by the time Viz catches up with the manga in their Jump, the series will already be over.  Between Toriko, Red Sprite, and Love Rush all ending around the same time, World Trigger going on indefinite hiatus, and now this, Viz really hasn't had much luck with their lineup lately.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 19, 2016, 11:27:25 PM
I really enjoyed the first chapter of the Rurouni Kenshin spin-off (which was revealed to be a sequel) this week. It takes place 5 years after the end of the Kyoto arc in which ramifications from Shishio's defeat are still being felt. I do wonder how this all will fold over into the series proper, but this chapter was a good start.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 21, 2016, 10:05:04 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #4/5 (December 21st/28th, 2016):
WSJ Cast (Cover)
My Hero Academia (Lead CP)
1. One Piece
2. Black Clover
3. The Promised Neverland
4. Hinomaru Zumou
Gintama (CP)
5. Haikyu!!
Demon's Plan (Not Ranked)
Canvas (CP, One Shot)
6. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
Ole Golazo (Not Ranked)
Tomatoypoo no Lycopin (CP, One Shot)
Boruto (CP)
7. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
8. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
Haru yo, Koi! (One Shot Part 1)
9. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
10. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
11. Samon the Summoner
12. Amalgam of Distortion
13. Spring Weapon No. 1
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~

Not bad rankings this week. Yuna is surprisingly low, but I'm guessing it was just a lame chapter. Next issue, Kimetsu no Yaiba, Promised Neverland, and Amalgam of Distortion, are getting extra pages. Straighten Up, Saiki, and Hinomaru are also getting color pages! Should be interesting to see the rankings in that issue.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 21, 2016, 11:46:12 AM
You know, I've gotta say, One Piece ranking in first place in many of these polls is really well deserved this year. While it has consistently ranked high since its inception, the last four or five years were not the best it had to offer by a long shot, IMO, but this year was legitimately the best the series has been ever since the time-skip. And next year looks like it'll be even better. It's once again a great time to be a One Piece fan.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 26, 2016, 02:08:07 PM
So the second character poll for MHA is out, and I'm a bit surprised. Bakugo honestly deserved #1 after this last year ever since the final exam with All Might. He had the most character development and is easily one of the best characters in the series. Midoriya at #2, Todoroki at #3, and All Might at #6 were all forgone conclusions. Aizawa and Ida both ranked well too.

I'm most surprised at Uraraka's drop to #10 since she has only gotten more developed since the last time she ranked. Really don't know why she went down this time. I'm surprised that Jiro cracked the top 10 since she really didn't do a lot since the last poll, and yet Kaminari dropped out despite having some really good moments. The best part was seeing how high Kirishima jumped. He had a lot of great moments including his friendship with Bakugo that only got stronger. MHA has only gotten better since the last poll.

But Mineta's giant drop was hilarious. He can be funny, but there really isn't a lot to him that would boost him higher.

And for those curious, this was the final result:

20. Yo Shindo
19. Himiko Toga
18. Hanta Sero
17. Present Mic
16. Tomura Shigaraki
15. Fumikage Tokoyami
14. Hitoshi Shinsou
13. Momo Yaoyarozu
12. Mashirao Ojiro
11. Denki Kaminari
10. Ochaco Uraraka
9. Tsuyu Asui
8. Tenya Ida
7. Kyoka Jiro
6. All Might
5. Eijiro Kirishima
4. Shota Aizawa
3. Shoto Todoroki
2. Izuku Midoriya
1. Katsuki Bakugo

The NA results are here:

10. Eraserhead (Shota Aizawa)
9. Eijiro Kirishima
8. Fumikage Tokoyami
7. Ochaco Uraraka
6. All Might
5. Tsuyu Asui
4. Shoto Todoroki
3. Himiko Toga
2. Izuku Midoriya
1. Katsuki Bakugo

In other news, that was a great chapter. Really eager to see where Midoriya and Bakugo go from here.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 29, 2016, 10:25:29 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #6 (January 4th, 2017):
One Piece (Cover, Lead CP)
1. My Hero Academia
2. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction (23p)
Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club (CP, 33p)
The Disastrous Life of Saiki (CP)
3. Haikyu!!
4. Black Clover
5. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
Demon's Plan (Not Ranked)
Hinomaru Zumou (CP)
6. The Promised Neverland (23p)
Ole Golazo (Not Ranked)
7. Samon the Summoner
8. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
Haru yo, Koi! (One Shot Part 2)
9. Amalgam of Distortion (23p)
10. Spring Weapon No. 1
11. Gintama
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~


Kimetsu had its best rank ever and is getting the cover next issue. It looks like it'll be sticking around for the foreseeable future. Come on, Viz. On the other hand, one-shots seems to be running until at least February, which means we probably won't be seeing World Trigger return until then. I just hope Ashihara is feeling better. Nothing else here is all too surprising. It looks like both Spring Weapon and Amalgam are headed for cancellation, and I'm pretty sure Demon's Plan won't be too far behind them. Oh well, at least it means other series should last a bit longer.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 29, 2016, 05:07:46 PM
I was quite surprised that Bakugo handily won both popularity polls by a large margin over Midoriya, but his character growth has been excellent this year so it's well deserved. Toga coming in #3 on the U.S. poll and Jiro ranking #7 on the japanese one were also surprising since they haven't been as prominent as some others, but hopefully this means we'll see more of them in the future.

Not sure if Demon's Plan is really in danger since the unranked chapters are being placed fairly high in the lineup. I don't think we'll be able to call whether it'll be cancelled until it gets it's first ranking. Amalgam and Spring Weapon definitely are on the outs when the next round of Jump Starts start up in February though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 30, 2016, 12:48:14 PM
I'm only going off of early impressions. The ones for Demon's Plan have not been very good.

In other news, I'm pretty sure I'm just not a fan of Akira Amano. I read the free chapter of elDLive on Viz's site and it almost gave me a headache. The colors were aggravating, but the storytelling was just as flat as Reborn and the characters were just as one note. How she got as popular as she did with such boring work is beyond me. But hey, maybe it's your thing. It's obviously not mine.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 31, 2016, 11:33:29 AM
The coloring in that chapter, while supposedly bright and pretty-looking, was an awful mess to make sense of and distracted from the contents of the chapter. It was a really poorly conceived color job; you can't just throw colors onto the page, they have to mesh and contrast, and help lead the reader's eye through the page and highlight what they should focus on. I couldn't tell what I was supposed to look at and when, which is just poor sequential storytelling in general. Didn't help that the story itself wasn't particularly interesting or well-thought out either. I didn't understand why things were happening and for what purpose, and the only character with a distinct personality was the snarky female lead. It is easily among the worst first chapters of any Jump manga that I've read.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 02, 2017, 08:12:15 PM
Coming out of hiatus just to say that this Rurouni Kenshin one-shot two-parter was excellent. It's almost like Watsuki never left. And for those who want to know, it takes place five years after Kenshin first arrived at the Kamiya dojo.

The way he set up Ashitaro to be a man on a tightrope between Shishio and Kenshin was on the nose. Watching him struggle between monster and hero just before Kenshin arrives to stop him from making the wrong decision was perfect. Not only did he do that but making him a student of an older Yahiko was a masterstroke.

So for this new series we have all the pieces in place. It's years after the Revenge arc, Ashitaro is a target, Sojiro has a link to Ashitaro, Yahiko is primed to be a teacher, Saito has a reason to seek them out, and the others were all mentioned by name.

I'm really excited to see where this goes. This is easily the best thing Watsuki has done in years, which makes me quite excited.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on January 16, 2017, 07:05:01 PM
Since no one has posted this week's Jump rankings yet:

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #7 (January 16th, 2017):
Kimetsu no Yaiba (Cover/Lead CP)
1. Black Clover
One Piece (Absent in ranked issue)
2. My Hero Academia
3. Haikyuu!!
Samon the Summoner (CP)
4. The Promised Neverland
5. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
Imawa no Juukurou (CP, oneshot)
6. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K
Yuna of Yuragi Manor (CP)
Ole Golazo (Not Ranked)
7. Shokugeki no Soma
8. Hinomaru Sumo
9. Spring Weapon No. 01
Demon's Plan (Not Ranked)
10. Gintama
11. Amalgam of Distortion
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~

The Promised Neverland is getting the cover and lead color page next week.  Based on how low Demon's Plan is in the ToC this week, I'm assuming that it is going to have a pretty low first ranking.  Aside from that, both The Promised Neverland and Straighten Up are continuing to rank well, which is nice to see.

In regards to the english Jump, Viz will be publishing the 2013 Nisekoi/Haikyu!! Crossover one-shot and Naoshi Komi's recent Shonen Jump GIGA one-shot Tokidoki in the next issue.  (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-01-16/viz-shonen-jump-to-run-nisekoi-haikyu-crossover-naoshi-komi-1-shot/.111118)

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 16, 2017, 08:02:14 PM
Haikyuu!! Crossing over with Nisekoi is so freaking random. It made sense when it had that crossover one-shot with My Love Story, but Haikyuu!! isn't even in the same genre.

In other news I finally caught up with World Trigger. In short I like most of what comes before and after the Large Scale Invasion arc, with that arc itself being too much of an unfocused mess in my eyes. That said, while I think it's good, there's something about the characters that keeps me from realky getting too invested in any of them, and that's what makes the difference between me finding the series good whereas it could be great. The battles are very tactical and well thought-out, but when I'm not going to feel all that devastated if the protagonists lose, none of these situations ever feel as tense to me as they are clearly meant to be.

Overall, good series, but I just feel like a key piece of something is missing from the equation.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on January 18, 2017, 07:53:05 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #8 (January 23rd, 2017):
The Promised Neverland (Cover/Lead CP)
1. My Hero Academia
2. Black Clover
3. Hinomaru Sumo
Haikyuu!! (CP)
4. Kimetsu no Yaiba
5. Shokugeki no Souma
Golem Hearts (CP, One Shot)
6. Gintama
Spring Weapon Number One (CP)
7. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
8. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
Whim (One Shot)
9. Samon the Summoner
Ole Golazo (Not Ranked)
10. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K
11. Demon's Plan
12. Amalgam of Distortion
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~

One Piece (Absent)

It looks like Demon's Plan had a low first ranking as expected, and it doesn't seem like Ole Golazo will fare much better when it gets ranked next week.  I guess it's a good thing that Viz didn't add them to the magazine. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on January 20, 2017, 04:54:01 PM
Kodansha USA has licensed Yoshitoki Oima's To Your Eternity and will be simul-publishing the series on Kindle and Comixology for $0.99 per chapter starting on January 24th. (//http://)

Roughly a dollar per chapter is kind of pricey for a weekly series imo, but at least it has finally been licensed.

Yamada-kun and the Seven Witches will be ending in 5 chapters. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2017/01/20/yamada-kun-and-the-seven-witches-manga-ending-scheduled?utm_source=community&utm_medium=twitter&utm_campaign=news&referrer=community)

Considering that this will be the second Weekly Shonen Magazine series that has recently ended among Crunchyroll's simul-pub series (the other being As The God's Will: The Second Series), I wonder if they'll pick up some new weekly series to release.  I would love to see To Your Eternity and Vector Ball in their manga catalog.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on January 23, 2017, 02:15:11 AM
Kaito is planning to launch a romance series called Blue Flag in Shonen Jump+ on February 1st. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-01-23/asato-mizu-kaito-launch-manga-on-shonen-jump-app/.111277)

Hopefully, Kaito's new series will be more successful than Cross Manage and Buddy Strike, though considering that he'll be in Jump+ this time, the likelihood of this series getting quickly cancelled will be much lower.  I also really hope that Viz considers picking up the series for their free Jump chapters section.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on January 23, 2017, 05:23:24 PM
So there was still no announcement of new series additions in this week's issue of english Jump, but Viz is having a live-stream event this Friday to celebrate the magazine's 5th anniversary and they have noted to having some major news to talk about.

Considering that all four of the recent Jump Starts seem to have been unsuccessful in Japan, I think it's safe to assume that Viz will be adding some series that will have more longevity.  Realistically, their options are Kimetsu no Yaiba, Straighten Up, Haikyuu, and Samon the Summoner.  It will be interesting to see what they choose.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on January 24, 2017, 10:54:36 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #9 (January 30th, 2017):
Gintama (Cover, Lead CP)
1. One Piece
2. Kimetsu no Yaiba
3. My Hero Academia
4. Haikyuu!!
Boruto (CP)
5. The Promised Neverland
Asagaya Geijutsu Kokou Eizou-ka e Youkoso (CP, One Shot)
6. Black Clover
Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma (CP)
7. Samon the Summoner
8. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
9. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
10. Hinomaru Zumou
11. Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san
12. Spring Weapon No. 1
13. Amalgam of Distortion
14. Ole Golazo
15. Demon's Plan
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~

I think it's now safe to say that the last four Jump Starts have all bombed, and it seems like Jump thinks the same as well.  Between issues 10-16, Jump will be premiering SIX new series:

Shounen Jump Issue 10:
New Series: Boku-tachi wa Benkyou ga Dekinai (by Tsutsui Taishi (author of Magical Pâtissière Kosaki-chan))

Shounen Jump Issue 11:
New Series: U19 (by Kimura Yuuji (author of 2014 WSJ one-shots GARDEN and Peach Pluck))

Shounen Jump Issue 12
New Series: Poro no Ryuugaku-ki (by Gondaira Hitsuji (Winner of the 2015 Golden Future Cup with one-shot Genjuui Toteku))

Shounen Jump Issue 13:
New Series: Harapeko no Marry (by Tamura Ryuuhei (author of Beelzebub))

Shounen Jump Issue 14:
New Series: Dr. Stone (by Inagaki Riichirou (story; story author of Eyeshield 21) and Boichi (artwork; author of Sun-Ken Rock))

Shounen Jump Issue 16:
New Series: Robot×Laserbeam (by Fujimaki Tadatoshi (author of Kuroko's Basketball))

I'm definitely surprised to see the return of three of successful WSJ mangaka in the latter half.  It will be interesting to see if any of them end up having another hit.  In any case,  Jump is going to be getting a lot of new and old blood in the next few weeks.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on January 31, 2017, 05:49:20 PM
This week's issue of english Jump had promotional image for the upcoming six Jump Starts:

(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1liU3O1.jpg&hash=a78f6302867aae0d42c82dd7bf6048177a8d3c34)

Viz also mentioned on their live-stream last week that they will definitely be adding 2 or 3 of the Jump Starts as full series to the magazine.  My guess is that they'll probably add Hungry Marie, Dr. Stone, and RobotxLaserbeam due to the reputation of their respective mangaka.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 01, 2017, 10:50:52 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #10 (February 6th, 2017):
We Never Learn (Cover, Lead CP, New Series)
1. Haikyu!!
2. One Piece
My Hero Academia (CP)
3. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
4. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
Black Clover (CP)
5. Hinomaru Zumou
6. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
7. Gintama
8. Spring Weapon No. 1
The Promised Neverland (CP)
9. Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club
10. Samon the Summoner
11. Ole Golazo
12. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~ (CP)
13. Amalgam of Distortion
14. Demon's Plan

Straighten Up is getting an extra page next week. It looks like it's ending soon. Spring Weapon going up likely means it will be sticking around for a little while longer. Ole Golazo is in danger of getting a Buddy Strike style early cancellation even though it isn't ranked last. With six new series and one already open slot it looks like we'll either have five series cancelled unless a series is temporarily taking World Trigger's spot in which case it will only be four. If Straighten Up is ending then it looks like two of them will be Amalgam and Demon's Plan. I hope Ole Golazo doesn't get canned but it isn't looking good for it.

As for the new series, I'm most eager for Dr. Stone. Being written by the guy behind Eyeshield 21 and the artist behind Sun-Ken-Rock is a very enticing combo. I didn't like Beelzebub or the one-shot his new series is based on, so Hungry Marie isn't that interesting to me. Robot has potential if he either takes out the power aspect all together or goes wacky with it like, oddly enough, Eyeshield 21. The Game and the powers weakened Kuroko as a whole because they were taken much too seriously for a grounded series.

In other news, I'm disappointed Viz didn't pick up Kimetsu no Yaiba. I'd spent some time catching up to it and really grew attached. The Drum House arc was pretty good, and the Spider Mountain arc was great. It's easy to tell why Togashi is a fan. The series is very old school in an endearing way. And, as the rankings and second printings show, it's building a lot of steam in Japan. It's disappointing that Viz is not going to capitalize.

Glad to see your opinion on World Trigger, Herr Doctor. I admit that I didn't read the Invasion arc, but watched it in the anime where it was much slower. Oddly enough I have a friend that much preferred the manga because it was too slow. Very odd. But I would be interested to hear your opinions on Kimetsu no Yaiba, especially considering Togashi is a fan. Something tells me you'll really dig it, especially given how much it improves as it goes along. It's hard to believe it's his first series considering his improvements.

Unrelated to Jump, I saw a description of Souboutei Must Be Destroyed (finally) that looked very enticing. It's apparently about a haunted mansion which has caused havoc in different people's lives for at least half a century and a bunch of people who all want to destroy the place. It's selling really well, which is great to hear, and buzz seems to be good. It's just too bad absolutely no one in NA is interested in giving it attention. Fujita really deserves better.

Anyway, I'm back. What's up?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on February 01, 2017, 03:07:36 PM
Welcome back! I, again, need to read Fujita manga.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 01, 2017, 03:27:23 PM
Heya. 8-)

And thanks to VLord for keeping up with what I missed.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on February 01, 2017, 03:55:06 PM
How have you been?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on February 01, 2017, 06:34:00 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 01, 2017, 03:27:23 PM
And thanks to VLord for keeping up with what I missed.
No problem, Spark!  :thumbup:

It's a real shame that Straighten Up is ending.  The scans for the series are almost up to date with the Japanese release after a long time, and I was considering finally keeping up with it.  I'm surprised Spring Weapon is actually doing decent now, though I guess that explains why Jump gave it a color page a few weeks ago.  Since Straighten Up is leaving, I guess that means Demon's Plan, Ole Golazo, and Amalgam of Distortion are all going to get axed soon.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 01, 2017, 10:50:52 AM
Unrelated to Jump, I saw a description of Souboutei Must Be Destroyed (finally) that looked very enticing. It's apparently about a haunted mansion which has caused havoc in different people's lives for at least half a century and a bunch of people who all want to destroy the place. It's selling really well, which is great to hear, and buzz seems to be good. It's just too bad absolutely no one in NA is interested in giving it attention. Fujita really deserves better.
Man, I want to read Souboutei so badly.  Sakaki (aka Bomber D. Rufi) recently started a Shonen Sunday blog where he briefly goes over each week's issue (https://wsstalkback.blogspot.com/), and the art and action in Souboutei looks amazing! It's a real shame that it's not being given much attention in the US, along with the majority of Shonen Sunday titles for that matter. 

Currently, the only Sunday titles being released in the US right now are:
Itsuwaribito (which ended 4 years ago)
Detective Conan/Case Closed (which will be around for a while)
Magi (ending in Sunday this year)
Hayate the Combat Butler (also ending soon)
Arata: The Legend (an irregular Sunday series that is also nearing its end)
Rin-ne (not ending but is a commercial failure outside of anime TV ratings)

I understand Viz is already busy enough licensing/releasing Shueisha titles and that their catalog takes priority over Shogakukan, but I wish they would at least license some new Sunday titles once in a while.  The fact that Viz didn't use the attention that the Dagashi Kashi and Keijo anime got to license the series, or even license series from mangaka who were previously successful in the US (Hiromu Arakawa's Silver Spoon and Yellow Tanabe's Birdmen) really shows how much Sunday is getting shafted here.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 01, 2017, 08:03:27 PM
Sunday is underrated as a magazine, but it isn't as if Shogakukan has done it many favors. While Jump has the action market cornered and Magazine is the grab bag, Sunday was the place for adventures and exploration. It had its unique flavor that became dilluted when it became like everyone else. Much like what happened to Dragon Magazine (Seriously, look up Dragon's pedigree, then look up what it's running now *Blargh*) Sunday lost its way for awhile. Magi is often seen as an outlier, but that is actually what Sunday used to specialize in.

Then there was their moronic business moves, their lack of promotion or anime, and their absence in the NA market despite owning Viz. There is no reason they should be as bad off as they are.

I still think if they got their crap together they could be bigger than Jump.

Quote from: gunswordfist on February 01, 2017, 03:55:06 PM
How have you been?
Not bad, not bad. Hoping to see John Wick 2 next week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on February 01, 2017, 08:38:10 PM
Oh man, take me with you!!!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 02, 2017, 09:50:41 PM
Just heard a rumor that World Trigger might be moving to Jump SQ. I can see that happening, and I wouldn't like it, but if it's better for Ashihara then I can live with it. It would probably help him get through this arc faster too if he can handle one rank battle per monthly chapter.

That said, it's just a rumor. As long as it doesn't get canned, I'm fine with what happens.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on February 02, 2017, 10:41:05 PM
I could certainly see that as a possibility since that's what happened to D. Gray-man after Hoshino became plagued with injury and illness.  Regardless of what happens, I don't see Jump cancelling the series in the near future.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on February 03, 2017, 01:14:16 PM
Mitsutoshi Shimabukuro is going to be launching a gag manga in Saikyo Jump (which is bi-monthly) this April. (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-02-03/toriko-mitsutoshi-shimabukuro-launches-new-comedy-manga-in-april/.111813)

It's good to see Shimabukuro make a return after Toriko.  Hopefully, Viz will pick up his new series for their free Jump section.  It shouldn't be too much of a hassle since it's only bi-monthly.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 05, 2017, 09:14:20 PM
Straighten Up is ending this week. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-02-05/shonen-jump-teases-shika-high-competitive-dance-club-manga-climax/.111769)

Thankfully it was allowed a natural end. Not a bad run, though I am surprised it ended before Samon. They sell the same but SU had consistently higher rankings.

Anyway, looks like Amalgam and Demon's Plan will be next to go. Unfortunately Ole Golazo might also get cut though I do think it's a shame. It's the most recent new series that showed some potential.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 06, 2017, 12:53:02 PM
Wow, that was a gruesome chapter of MHA. The League of Villains now has competition, and they're no joke. Makes me wonder what kind quirk he has as it's very similar to Shigaraki's, except far messier. Something tells me Midoriya is going to have his hands full soon enough. But they were right. Shigaraki does not have the right to make demands of anybody considering how many times he's failed so far and how many top class villains he's lost. Now with All For One out of the picture, there's just as big a power vacuum in the villain world as the hero one. These chapters are so short. I already can't wait until the next one.

All around good set of chapters this week. The Promised Neverland is definitely nearing the escape. Though at this point I'm wondering how it'll go. Especially considering Emma's state.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 06, 2017, 12:58:09 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 06, 2017, 12:53:02 PMWow, that was a gruesome chapter of MHA.

And people actually say that WSJ has gotten soft on us in the violence department. :sly:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 06, 2017, 03:07:57 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 06, 2017, 12:58:09 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 06, 2017, 12:53:02 PMWow, that was a gruesome chapter of MHA.

And people actually say that WSJ has gotten soft on us in the violence department. :sly:
Considering it took 125 chapters before Horikoshi delivered something as gory as this is impressive. He didn't need to use it as a crutch for meaningless shock value. Here it comes across as genuinely shocking even though the violence had been ramping up for some time.

Also it sets the tone for this new arc almost as much as the fight with Mirio did. Whatever's coming up is going to be intense.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 07, 2017, 01:13:03 PM
Interview with Promised Neverland creators. (https://mangahelpers.com/forum/threads/yakusoku-no-neverland-hangout-thread.3005282/page-19#post-4463335)

Some of Shirai's influences include Naoki Urasawa, Takeshi Obata, Yusei Matsui, Hirohiko Araki in suspense factor, and various others. I definitely get that impression when reading it. Also, we're nearing the end of the escape arc as it should apparently be done by volume 4. Judging by recent events, I guess that should be obvious.

Very interesting tidbits. I can't wait to see where he goes from here.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 07, 2017, 11:45:58 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #11 (February 13th, 2017):
U19 (Cover, Lead CP, New Series)
1. Black Clover
2. One Piece
Haikyu!! (CP)
3. The Promised Neverland
4. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
We Never Learn (CP)
5. My Hero Academia
6. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
Hinomaru Zumou (CP)
7. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
Straighten Up! Welcome to Shika High's Competitive Dance Club (END, 23 p.)
8. Samon the Summoner
9. Gintama
10. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
11. Amalgam of Distortion
12. Spring Weapon No. 1
13. Ole Golazo
14. Demon's Plan
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~

Next week Kimetsu and Food Wars both get color pages. Nothing really surprising this week other than MHA and Kimetsu being a bit lower than I'd like (these were really good chapters) but everything else is about where I figured they'd be. To be honest, I'm still kinda surprised Straighten Up ended while Samon is still going. Jump must really believe in this series like they do for Hinomaru.

Also, Straighten Up had a natural end since it wasn't placed at the back of the magazine. So, good for it!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 09, 2017, 12:27:16 PM
I thought this was cute. Jump heroines Valentine's Day artwork drawn by Shun Saeki of Food Wars:

(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fic.pics.livejournal.com%2Fbanzaimang%2F78245838%2F8014%2F8014_900.jpg&hash=a776d05dd593984eaac1a8da42d1eefb8e5753e8)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 13, 2017, 12:02:12 PM
Boy was U19 the most bland new series I've seen in a long time. I've seen all this hundreds of times before. Not to mention, the first chapter didn't have much happen at all. Truthfully, We Never Learn is much better than this. Speaking of We Never Learn, the "rom-com" jokes were well timed and the series continues to be enjoyable. I wouldn't mind this one lasting. If there's one obvious series that isn't going to make it among the six so far, it's U19.

MHA was fun. Seeing Bakugo so obviously spiteful was hilarious. I'm also liking Mirio more and more as a character the more he shows up. Finally, it is always good to see all of Midoriya's experiences shapes his choices and what kind of hero he will be. As I've said before, he's my favorite character in the series and he constantly lives up to being that. Then there was the ending of the chapter. That is probably the weirdest ending since the first dorm tour chapter. But it was pretty funny and out there.

Promised Neverland is still at its best. Ray proving why he's my favorite character again here. It's great that the series is selling so well. This means it should stick around for a while. Also a really strong chapter of Food Wars this week.

I'd say my top 4 for this week are pretty obvious.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 14, 2017, 09:21:34 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #12 (February 20th, 2017):
Demon Prince Poro's Diaries (Cover, Lead CP, New Series)
1. My Hero Academia
2. One Piece
Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma (CP)
3. Haikyu!!
4. Spring Weapon No. 1
U19 (CP)
5. Hinomaru Zumou
6. Black Clover
Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction (CP)
We Never Learn (Not Ranked)
7. The Promised Neverland
8. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
9. Gintama
10. Samon the Summoner
11. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
12. Ole Golazo
Amalgam of Distortion (END)
Demon's Plan (END)
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~

Wow, two series ending in the same issue. They must have been doing really badly. Unfortunately, it looks like Ole Golazo is certainly the next one out since Spring Weapon has jumped so high up. I'm still confused as to why Samon is still getting chances, though It's even getting a color page next week. Oh well, it is what it is.

What I'm really waiting for are the next three series after this one. I want to see what the vets will do.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on February 15, 2017, 01:02:36 PM
Damn, Spring Weapon has really skyrocketed up in the rankings.  Meanwhile, Samon doesn't seem to be doing so hot despite being pushed hard by Jump.  I'm guessing Jump doesn't want to give up on Samon so easily since they've given a lot attention to it, but if Spring Weapon continues to do well, I could certainly see them shifting focus towards it rather than Samon.  The Jump Starts that I'm most excited for are definitely the ones by the veteran mangakas, especially since those are the series that have the best chance of surviving against the current competition in Jump.  The only one of the newcomer Jump Starts that I think has a chance of lasting is We Never Learn, and that's only if it manages to somehow usurp Yuna of Yuragi Manor in popularity.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 15, 2017, 01:52:21 PM
Yeah, it would also have to outsell it too. Yuna's been selling over 100k a volume so far. For a series without an anime that's really, really good.

I feel sorry for We Never Learn, but I just don't see it lasting. It might last past the first cancellation round (there are six new series after all) at the very least.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 16, 2017, 12:48:30 PM
Okay, no matter what, Zenitsu and Inosuke better stick around for the rest of Kimetsu no Yaiba. I can never get enough of them and combined with Tanjiro and Nezuko, they make a great team.

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Every time those three get together, it's always a hoot.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on February 16, 2017, 02:55:10 PM
Man, I really need to get around to reading Kimetsu no Yaiba.  It and Hinomaru Sumo are my top priorities for Jump series that I need to read.

Yesterday, I decided to catch up with Ole Golazo since it's been getting regular scans.  It's a real shame that it will be getting cancelled soon since the series is a lot of fun, especially since Banba is a very likable protagonist.  Hopefully, Takamasa Moue gets another chance at serialization soon because I'm definitely interested in seeing more from him. 

I also read through all of Demon's Plan, and my opinion on it is far less positive.  The series seemed to get blander with every chapter, and there wasn't anything particularly interesting outside of Bolo's power.  I'm not surprised that the series ended so quickly, and I won't miss it. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 16, 2017, 03:50:21 PM
KnY really came into its own when those two showed up for the Drum House arc. Before that it was enjoyable, but they add a lot of dynamics to the cast. Tanjiro is the good guy who confuses Inosuke and emboldens Zenitsu; Inosuke is the fearless warrior who inspires Tanjiro and frightens Zenitsu; Zenitsu is the coward who enrages Inosuke and completely mystifies Tanjiro... Then there's Nezuko who confuses things among the three even further. Gotouge has really sprouted as a writer since that dynamic hit. It's no wonder that the series has shot up in popularity since they joined up.

Demon's Plan had all the hallmarks of an amateur series. The first chapter was overly cluttered, the character writing was muddled and one-note, and there didn't feel like there was a real focus on anything substantial. I think the writer has potential, but he has a lot more work to do if he wants a series to last longer in the future.

On the other hand, Ole Golazo feels like a sports title from the early 00s. It's very low key and reserved, and relies on the sport to pull everything together. The characters are pleasant and fun to be around too. It's really a shame that it's going to get canceled because it is really enjoyable with no real overt flaws to hold it back. Banba is also a bit of a different protagonist for the sort of sports series Jump runs. Off all the recent new series getting canceled, I still think this is the biggest shame.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 21, 2017, 08:13:04 PM
Fairy Tail is currently in its last arc right now. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-02-21/fairy-tail-manga-is-already-in-last-arc-60-million-copies-in-print/.112535)

Took long enough. Yikes.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 21, 2017, 09:14:52 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #13 (February 27th, 2017):
Hungry Marie (Cover, Lead CP, New Series)
1. Black Clover
2. My Hero Academia
Boruto (CP)
3. The Promised Neverland
Demon Prince Poro's Diaries (CP)
4. Haikyu!!
5. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
Samon the Summoner (CP)
6. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
U19 (Not Ranked)
7. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
We Never Learn (Not Ranked)
8. Spring Weapon No. 1
9. Hinomaru Zumou
10. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
11. Gintama
Ole Golazo (END)
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~

Sigh. Poor Ole Golazo. It never even got a chance. But well, that should be it for this round of cancellations. No surprising ranks this go, but it should be interesting to see how Hungry Marie turns out. I'm cautious, but hopeful. Samon is getting a second color page next week. Not sure what that's about, but Jump sure is giving it a lot of chances it frankly doesn't deserve.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on February 22, 2017, 02:01:49 AM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 21, 2017, 08:13:04 PM
Fairy Tail is currently in its last arc right now. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-02-21/fairy-tail-manga-is-already-in-last-arc-60-million-copies-in-print/.112535)

Took long enough. Yikes.

It's pretty much been in it's final arc for the past two years. A relief to get an official confirmation that it is actually going to end sometime though. It would be exhausting/infuriating if it kept dragging itself out with some other big bad after Zeref and Acnologia.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 22, 2017, 10:52:49 AM
Quote from: LumRanmaYasha on February 22, 2017, 02:01:49 AM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 21, 2017, 08:13:04 PM
Fairy Tail is currently in its last arc right now. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-02-21/fairy-tail-manga-is-already-in-last-arc-60-million-copies-in-print/.112535)

Took long enough. Yikes.

It's pretty much been in it's final arc for the past two years. A relief to get an official confirmation that it is actually going to end sometime though. It would be exhausting/infuriating if it kept dragging itself out with some other big bad after Zeref and Acnologia.
Bleach's final arc lasted 4 years, and was still rushed.

So who really knows?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 27, 2017, 12:18:37 PM
Yeah, at this point I'm just going to put Tamura's works in the same pile as Amano. It really does nothing for me at all. I'm certain Viz will run this series, but I really couldn't care less. This isn't my thing at all. Though I will say I enjoyed it much more than U19 at the very least.

I heard the rumor that Horikoshi was hospitalized while working on this chapter. It shows in a few places, but I'm more concerned with his health. It does show his dedication that it still looks pretty good for the most part and not quite on the level of some of Togashi's worst scribbles. Here's hoping it's nothing serious. But that was a pretty intense ending to the chapter. Midoriya is definitely not ready for Overhaul.

Good issue this week. Next week for Promised Neverland should be something else, especially since Norman found the pen Sister Krone left for them. Can't wait to see where it goes.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on February 28, 2017, 07:05:06 PM
I found Hungry Marie pretty enjoyable. I've never read Beelzebub so I don't have a negative predisposition to Tamura's works. Plus, I'm always a little intrigued by gender-bender stories, and with threads of romance, martial-arts, and the supernatural involved I can imagine a lot of fun shenanigans that could make for a good action-comedy.

The rough art in the MHA chapter was a little concerning, but luckily Horikoshi only left smaller, less important moments in that rough style and the most important moments were still properly rendered. Hopefully Horikoshi will be feeling healthy again soon, but if he needs to take a short break than I wouldn't mind because he's a hard worker and the art of each chapter of MHA is so consistently high-quality that I can easily imagine him needing a rest every now and again.

PN's ending was rather ominous. The cliffhangers always leave you guessing. I wonder what secret Norman might have discovered in Sister Krone's pen, and where he's hiding out now.

My favorite moment in Jump this week had to be Erina finally standing up to Azami and defying him as her own person. A character arc that has been two years in the making and I'm very happy to finally see it reach this point. I'm really hoping they take it a step further and have Erina defeat Azami in a shokugeki, or at least through her own cooking make him acknowledge and accept her as her own person that he can't control. Erina's character arc is pretty easily the most compelling aspect of Food Wars! right now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 28, 2017, 07:30:57 PM
I haven't read Hungry Marie yet, but I'm also not a fan of Beelzebub. As a comedy it had some potential early on, but that was quickly squandered by a series of the most predictable gags and shenanigans that you could possibly think of, without any real shred of originality to any of the humor, while the battle shonen aspects of the series were just flat-out boring, IMO. It's a shame considering that Tamura was a former assistant and protégée of Toshiaki Iwashiro, leading me to believe that he may have had some talent, but aside from his art-style (which is admittedly very similar to Iwashiro's), I can't really see any influence of Iwashiro's writing sensibilities on Tamura's work in Beelzebub.

To be fair to Tamura, though, I've learned that you can't just outright judge the mangaka for everything wrong with their series, as the editorial department can and has hindered talented creators before. That said, even in other weaker manga series with good mangaka (such as Watsuki's post-Kensin work), I can at least usually see some shreds of their true talent strewn about throughout their work. I was really hard-pressed to identify anything of that sort with Tamura when it comes to Beelzebub. But, then again, I know a lot of people who genuinely like that series, so for what it's worth Spark and myself are probably in the minority in our opinions regarding it.

At any rate, whether I care for the mangaka's work or not, I do wish all of them good luck on these new endeavors, Tamura included, as on top of really just wanting to read more good shonen series, I really know how hard it is to make it in this business, and mangaka like these really need all the support that they can get in order to make a living following their passion.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 28, 2017, 09:14:59 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #14 (March 6th, 2017):
Dr. Stone (Cover, Lead CP, New Series)
1. One Piece
2. Gintama
Hungry Marie (CP)
3. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
Samon the Summoner (CP)
4. Haikyu!!
Demon Prince Poro's Diaries (Not Ranked)
5. Black Clover
6. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
7. The Promised Neverland
We Never Learn (Not Ranked)
8. Hinomaru Zumou
U19 (Not Ranked)
9. Spring Weapon No. 1
10. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~ (CP)
11. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma

It looks like that rumor about Horikoshi is true. This is the first week he's ever missed a chapter since the series started. I'm hoping he's okay. And Food Wars in last? Man, this series really never has consistent rankings. Next week Kimetsu no Yaiba, Hinomaru, and Dr. Stone all get color pages. I wonder which series will sink to the bottom or float to the top since all the cancellations. I'm wondering if Gintama and Hinomaru are nearing their ends sooner than previously thought.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on February 28, 2017, 10:43:20 PM
Horikoshi deserves a break. I only hope his condition isn't so bad that he'll be on hiatus for an indefinite period of time like Ashihara. We're past the third month of the World Trigger hiatus and we still don't know when it's coming back... :'(

Gintama is probably not going to end anytime in the next couple of weeks based on recent events in the series. If anything, I think it'll end around the time the movie comes out. Dunno about Hinomaru since I haven't caught up with it in a while and I think the scans are still behind where the series is actually at in Japan.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 01, 2017, 01:54:58 PM
There was an odd reveal in volume 7 of MHA, by the way.

Horikoshi states in one of his extra pages that he doesn't want to explain the villains or their background in order to keep their mystique, but he did say something interesting.

For a hint as to what the Nomus really are, he posted a picture of a kid with devil wings. This was the same kid that hung out with Bakugo and Midoriya when they were small. Or if it's not him, it looks really close.

I'm not really sure what it means, but it was interesting to say the least.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 06, 2017, 11:47:06 AM
Dr. Stone is easily the best of the new series. I'm really eager to see where it goes from now. You can easily tell these two are veterans well aware of what works and what doesn't. Above all, this series simply must remain in NA Jump.

But the best chapter this week was the Promised Neverland. I swear, if Norman dies...
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 07, 2017, 09:19:06 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #15 (March 13th, 2017):
One Piece (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Haikyu!!
Hungry Marie (Not Ranked)
Dr. Stone (CP)
2. The Promised Neverland
3. My Hero Academia
Gekkou no Arcadia (CP, One Shot)
4. Spring Weapon No. 1
Hinomaru Zumou (CP)
We Never Learn (Not Ranked)
5. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction (CP)
Demon Prince Poro's Diaries (Not Ranked)
6. Black Clover
U19 (Not Ranked)
7. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
8. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
9. Samon the Summoner
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~

So I think it's safe to say that early reaction to Hungry Marie and Dr. Stone have been good. Not even ranked and they're already near the front of the magazine. Glad to see MHA back and I hope Horikoshi is okay. This is Promised Neverland's highest ranking ever, I believe. Also, yes, Gintama is off this week. Samon and Yuna are at the bottom again though it doesn't mean anything until we see where these new series rank. Judging from this early placement, I'm guessing Hungry Marie and Dr. Stone will be sticking around. That's the best early placement in the magazine I've seen for new series in years. Next week Fujimaki's golf manga begins. Should be interesting to see how that goes.

In other news, it looks like Kaito's Ao no Flag (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2017-03-03/kaito-new-ao-no-flag-manga-trends-no.1-on-twitter/.112881) series in Jump+ is doing really well. It looks like his third series might finally be the one to make it, just like with Horikoshi. Good for him.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 07, 2017, 10:18:07 PM
Finally got the chance to read Dr. Stone, and yeah, it's pretty great. The hype was well-deserved. Love the leads and the potential of the premise, and the art is fantastic. Really hoping it sticks around.

Cool that Hungry Marie, Dr. Stone, and We Never Learn look to have pretty good early results so far. It'd be great if they could all stick around. Interesting that Spring Weapon is doing so well now too. Guess it found it's audience/niche. As for Samon...we've been thinking it's on the outs for a long time now, but it still sticks around, so who knows when they'll decide to end it.

I'm very happy Kaito's newest series has been so well received and seems to be doing well. It'd be a great addition to the free section of the Shonen Jump website so I hope Viz decides to add it sometime soon.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on March 08, 2017, 12:54:43 AM
Shonen Sunday is going to have an important announcement for Rumiko Takahashi fans on March 22nd. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-03-08/shonen-sunday-has-important-announcement-for-rumiko-takahashi-fans-on-march-22/.113134)

I doubt it's anime related since Rin-ne Season 3 is already coming out next month.  Maybe Takahashi is ending Rin-ne and starting a new series in Sunday?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 08, 2017, 11:45:34 AM
Crossing my fingers for a new Ranma 1/2 anime project to commemorate it's 30th anniversary.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 08, 2017, 12:08:41 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if they asked her to consider ending it. It's her least popular series by far, and Sunday has been trying to push more hits out recently.

Of course it might just be an early announcement for season 4 of the series instead.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on March 08, 2017, 04:36:17 PM
It's pretty much guaranteed that Rin-ne will get a Season 4 since it does consistently well in its time slot for NHK, but I think they probably won't announce it until Season 3 concludes. 

Quote from: LumRanmaYasha on March 08, 2017, 11:45:34 AM
Crossing my fingers for a new Ranma 1/2 anime project to commemorate it's 30th anniversary.
Oh yeah, I completely forgot that this year is Ranma's 30th anniversary.  Honestly, a Ranma 1/2: The Final Act is well overdue, so it would be great if the announcement was that.   
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 08, 2017, 08:29:24 PM
Kimetsu no Yaiba volume 5 has shot up in sales for the series. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-03-08/japanese-comic-ranking-february-27-march-5/.113161) For reference, that's the amount Promised Neverland's last volume sold in its first week. Looks like it's finally finding its audience.

It also sold over double the recent Samon volume which hasn't improved in sales at all. It's at volume 8 and it's selling less than series that have been canceled already.

I'll say it. It's time Jump cut Samon loose. It's a bit absurd that it's still going despite being the lowest selling thing in the magazine (lower than Isobe) and not ranking well at all.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 08, 2017, 09:09:02 PM
It's great that KnY is picking up steam. Hopefully it continues this momentum and in a year or so it could even get an anime which would give it more exposure.

Samon's days are probably numbered if all six of the new series hit it off. But if two or more of them are floundering by the next serialization cycle, it will probably hang on. Jump really seems to be biding it's time for an anime proposal and willing to keep it around until it gets one.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 10, 2017, 03:59:14 PM
Food Wars spoiler!

Spoiler
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Wow, that's hype. I haven't been this existed to read the series in a while.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 10, 2017, 06:22:53 PM
Spoiler

Murasakibara!  :swoon:

It's cool the former 3rd seat is also on the team, but I'm hoping we learn some more about him. There was some set-up a long time ago hinting at why he defected from Central, but with the series pretty clearly being rushed into the Regime du Cuisine, I think Tsukusa had to jettison whatever was his original plan for him. Hopefully there'll be some flashback showing how Soma and co. met him that explains why he opposes Central and fleshes out his character.
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Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 10, 2017, 08:44:14 PM
Not goin to lie, even though there was no such announcement, the rushed nature of this arc feels eerily like what happens with a lot of other series before they abruptly wrap-up with early endings. To be fair, while its rankings have been all over the place, Food Wars has still been doing a lot better than many other series still running in Jump despite consistent low rankings, so lack of popularity doesn't seem to be an issue for the series at this point. It may just be (and I hope it is) that the author is just rushing past this particular story arc because, some good aspects aside (mainly Erina's character development), a lot of large chunks of the Azami saga have felt like a real slog to read through, and it's definitely not just me who feels this way as I've seen several other people comment about this (and in this case I agree with the majority opinion).

There is definitely plenty of untapped potential for future story and character arcs to unfold with this cast of characters, so I do genuinely hope to see more after this arc. I just personally find it hard to get invested in anything having to do with taking down Azami or Central. They are a rather weak and uninteresting antagonistic force, IMO, with the exception of Azami being a huge mental barrier that Erina has had to overcome over the course of her development in this arc.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 10, 2017, 08:53:57 PM
Food Wars! sold really well last year so I'd like to think it's fairly safe, but I can see Tsukuda's editor pushing him to rush to the showdown with the Elite Ten after the lukewarm reception the early stages of the exam got. Hopefully it'll be the kick the series needs to start performing in the rankings well again and the series can return to form with it's storytelling and pacing going forward.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 10, 2017, 09:15:58 PM
Looking over the sales, the top 10 best selling Jump manga are:

1. One Piece
2. Haikyu!
3. My Hero Academia
4. Food Wars!
5. World Trigger
6. Gintama
7. Black Clover
8. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
9. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
10. The Promised Neverland

With World Trigger on hiatus and Gintama about to end, I can't see Food Wars in any danger of being rushed to conclusion. If it is ending it would be because they want to end it. Though I don't see that as the case since Azami is not end boss material, and there is still more wacky stuff to see.

I do think they are rushing this arc to conclusion because they know fans haven't been enthralled with it, even though there has been a lot of good points to it. I want the Azami business to settle so things can start getting crazy again. I do think having Soma and co. on the Elite Ten would definitely shake things up.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 11, 2017, 11:24:41 AM
In other news, Nobuyuki Anzai has ended his latest Metal Rock manga at two volumes. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-03-10/flame-of-recca-mar-nobuyuki-anzai-ends-metal-rock-manga/.113288)

It ran from 2014-2017 and was a continuation of his meta diary thing, which means it's probably 4-koma. His diary series was started in 2013 and lead right into this short series. So from 2013-2017 he's been creating these smaller series. That's what he's been doing since Mixim ended in Sunday, at any rate.

Really hope Sunday is courting him to come back to the magazine. With Fujita back and in prime form, and Raiku also running in Weekly Magazine, now is the best time for him to return. To be honest, Sunday could use someone like him back in its pages.

He's had enough time away from the shonen world that he should have enough ideas and vision to make something better than Mixim '11, and hopefully enough that he wouldn't let it fall into tourney boredom like MAR. I've been waiting for him to come back for a while now. I hope this is the moment. Sunday keeps getting better, and this would be a great move for them.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 11, 2017, 02:04:46 PM
It's a good time considering lots of Sunday series are ending in a couple weeks, and there needs to be new stuff to fill their slots. Having a veteran author with two big series under his belt return to the magazine would be a good get.

At any rate, it turns out that the Rumiko Takahashi announcement was a bunch of special stuff to celebrate her series selling 200 million copies collectively. (https://wsstalkback.blogspot.com/2017/03/weekly-shounen-sunday-16-preview.html) She'll be doing two new one-shots in consecutive weeks (which is why Rin-ne is off two weeks), various WSS authors will be drawing tribute art of her characters, there will be new character goods for 108 of her most famous characters, and a "work set" which will likely include her storyboards and rough sketches. I'm pretty excited to read her new one-shots and will have to look into importing some of those character goods and the work set when they come out.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 12, 2017, 08:52:31 PM
So, based on the WSJ series which I have primarily been following, I'd say that over the course of the last year, I'd rank them like this:

1. One Piece- No bias here. I've been pretty vocal about how underwhelming the series was ever since the Fishman Island arc, but ever since the Zou arc ended Oda has really returned to form. If you've only jumped into the series after skipping multiple arcs, it'd be understanding if Whole Cake Island doesn't leave much of an impression on you, but as a long-time reader its absolute masterful story-telling based on how it really brings progress to the overall story and explores new themes and facets of One Piece's world, both paying off seeds carefully and cleverly planted throughout the manga's nearly two-decade-long run, while also sewing even more seeds for future events to come. The comedy and action has also been really on point lately.

2. My Hero Academia- A close second, and easily keeps getting better and better as it continues.

3. Kismetu no Yaiba- It had a slow start, but it really grew on me over time and it's a very different kind of series for WSJ, but it stands out in a great way.

4. World Trigger- This had an even slower start than KnY, but it really came into its own last year. A shame that the author's health issues forced him to have to take a hiatus from work right when the series was really starting to run with some momentum.

5. Black Clover- It's pretty safe to say that these series will stay pretty standard and predictable with its story and character progression, but it's alright fun for what it is, and kudos to the author for actually having someone other than Asta save the day by winning a fight with the most recent arc.

6. Food Wars!- While I don't love this series as much as a lot of people, I find it to be generally entertaining for what it is. That said, the Azami arc has been really dragged out at this point, making a large chunk of its run in the past year feel really stale and uninteresting. Here's hoping that things can pick up again after the end of this arc.

Those are the series which I currently follow on a weekly basis and generally like to varying degrees. I still have to eventually get into some other WSJ manga like TPN and potentially some of these new series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 12, 2017, 10:02:33 PM
Alright, I'll give my opinions. My current top 5:

1. My Hero Academia - This series feels like Naruto done right. I know that sounds both snotty and insulting, but it is the best way to describe it. The character writing is some of the best I've ever seen in a shonen manga. The plot ramps up impressively, the action and art is top notch, and the series is never not a joy to read. Unless Horikoshi loses his mind and becomes like Kubo or Kishimoto then I find it safe to say that this is one of the best series Jump has ever run.

2. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction - This series came out of nowhere. The first chapter had a unique hook which snowballed the plot to where you can see Gotouge become a better writer and artist as it goes. I can't honestly think of a recent shonen series anything like this to the point that it reminds me of old series like early Yu Yu Hakusho (when Yusuke's dead) and Saint Seiya/Kurumada in general. Very old school, and very unique.

3. World Trigger - I was really digging this series over the past year. I hope he's recovering fine, but man did he go all out this year. World Trigger is a fun action series that is compulsively readable and is, like KnY, a series where you can see Ashihara grow as a writer and artist as it goes. If he ends up changing magazines, I hope he is able to at least finish this current arc first and end the Rank Wars. By then I think the series will really hit it out of the park.

4. The Promised Neverland - Another surprise. The first chapter was decent, but it didn't really hook me. The first few chapters were good, but nothing all too engaging. Where Shirai succeeded was in build up. I wasn't that surprised when I learned how much he studied Death Note and Urasawa, because the influence is clear. He knows how to plant things, how to grow characters, and how to raise the stakes, and he does it with every chapter. And Demizu's art is unique enough to help sell it all. And it's not even 30 chapters in. Again, unless the ball is fumbled after this point, TPN is a great read and looks to be one for some time.

5. One Piece - I don't find it as engaging as most fans, but it is an entertaining read every week, and I find this arc much more enjoyable than the last one. Still, I'm glad to be reading it.

I'm also enjoying Food Wars, Black Clover, and have enjoyed the first chapter of Dr. Stone a great deal. But where those series will rank next will depend on where they go next in the story.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 13, 2017, 01:18:22 AM
On the subject of One Piece, I'm still kind of wondering if you'll ever go back to the arcs that you grazed past, Spark. I mean, I can understand being turned off by Skypeia feeling so dragged out and all, but it still kind of baffles me that out of all the large portions of One Piece to skip, you missed the two best major story-lines in the entire franchise to date (that being the Cipher-Pol 9 and Whitebeard sagas). :sweat:

I mean, it's a huge commitment to be fair, so I wouldn't expect you to go back there anytime soon, but for real, I'd highly recommend getting into those at some point in the future. Marineford especially is a real climactic arc, essentially serving as the ending to the first part of the story. And while the events of that are heavily referenced throughout the current manga, reading about it out of context simply doesn't do it justice. It's honestly one of the most game-changing arcs of any WSJ manga, and as a fan of Shonen Jump you definitely should give it a read some day. It may do a lot to give you a newfound appreciation for the series, especially some of these upcoming arcs.

And speaking of game-changing, I get the feeling that we'll be getting a lot of that in MHA before too long. They already did it to an extent with All Might permanently losing his powers in the All For One arc, but Horikoshi has clearly been building up to this "shit's about to go down" when it comes to the clashing society of the main two competing villain groups in the story.

That'd make for an interesting little list or discussion, wouldn't it? What are the most game-changing stories or moments in a traditional long-running shonen series. You all know that a certain part of Ashita no Joe would easily be my top pick. ;)

After that, I'd probably go with the Saiyan arc from Dragon Ball as a definitive second, and I'm not sure what would come after that in any specific order, but it's certainly interesting to think about.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 13, 2017, 11:24:14 AM
I don't know about One Piece because I don't really have the time to sit down and read as much manga in a row these days. But, on the other hand, maybe I could make due with the anime? By that I mean that I usually visit a friend on the weekend and we engage in different activities from playing games to watching some episodes of anime and discussing it. We did it with MHA and Saiki when they were running. Maybe we could try the One Piece anime (he stopped around the same place I did) from a bit further in the story. I know the One Piece anime isn't ideal, but maybe it would be easier to get through the story that way. I dunno, you guys are more familiar with the anime than I am.

MHA is definitely about to blow up soon. The era is over, the villains are growing and making their move, and Midoriya is in the midst of it all. We're about to hit an arc that might surpass Field Training and Summer Training/Hideout Raid as the best in the series. I only hope he never does a time skip. MHA works so well because we see every moment of growth of the characters. If we skipped a bunch of it I'd be pretty upset.

If we're speaking moments of change, I'd say the end of the Sports Festival when Todoroki takes on Bakugo is about the moment I knew it would be something really special. And it hasn't let me down yet.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 13, 2017, 12:50:29 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 13, 2017, 11:24:14 AM
I don't know about One Piece because I don't really have the time to sit down and read as much manga in a row these days. But, on the other hand, maybe I could make due with the anime? By that I mean that I usually visit a friend on the weekend and we engage in different activities from playing games to watching some episodes of anime and discussing it. We did it with MHA and Saiki when they were running. Maybe we could try the One Piece anime (he stopped around the same place I did) from a bit further in the story. I know the One Piece anime isn't ideal, but maybe it would be easier to get through the story that way. I dunno, you guys are more familiar with the anime than I am.


I really wouldn't recommend it. You stopped around Skypeia, so you'd have to watch over 500+ episodes to catch up, and that's after skipping the sparse filler episodes there are. The anime's poor pacing and animation just can't compare to Oda's, especially from Water 7 onwards. Not to mention that the poor pacing and animation flat out ruins two of the best arcs in the series, Impel Down and Marineford, making them nearly unwatchable. While I definitely agree it's easier to get through something when you have someone to do it with, it's way more of a time investment to watch 500+ anime episodes than to read 50+ manga volumes and the quality of anime just makes watching through it less than ideal. Granted, there are plenty of OP fans who like the anime who'd disagree, and marathoning certain stretches with friends can be fun, but I really think you'd enjoy the series more overall by reading rather than watching it.

Even though you have a lot to catch up with, you'd don't have to binge read the entire thing. You can take your time reading through it. 50 volumes sounds like a lot but even if you were only to read one volume a day you would catch up in less than two months. So it's not as daunting an ordeal once you actually start.

I'll do my rankings of the Jump series I'm reading after I get a chance to catch back up on KnY and Gintama, though I think my Top 5 would be somewhat similar to Spark's except with OP placed higher.

And I'd definitely be up for making a list of the most game-changing moments in long-running shonen series. That honestly could be a cool follow up to our story arcs list from years back. I agree with Dr. E-K on AnJ and DB's for sure.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 13, 2017, 01:23:40 PM
Yeah, but reading a volume of OP could be replaced with reading something else (which I'm usually doing already), and I'm well aware that the anime has its problems, but I'm not rushing to catch up. I also stopped at the arc after Skypeia due to my interest running out, but like Gintama I'm perfectly find with jumping ahead and coming back to fill in the gaps later if need be. I'm already spoiled on a lot that happens as it is.

Anyway, even if I did it it's not something I would be doing for a long time. Just spit-balling.

And Dr. Stone is easily the best of the new Jump Starts. I'm betting that one sticks around for a while.

MHA hasn't missed a step even with a week off. This was a great chapter and easily the best this week. Really can't wait to see where this arc goes next.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 13, 2017, 06:22:48 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 13, 2017, 01:23:40 PM
Yeah, but reading a volume of OP could be replaced with reading something else (which I'm usually doing already), and I'm well aware that the anime has its problems, but I'm not rushing to catch up. I also stopped at the arc after Skypeia due to my interest running out, but like Gintama I'm perfectly find with jumping ahead and coming back to fill in the gaps later if need be. I'm already spoiled on a lot that happens as it is.

Sure, but you could also be watching something else instead of the OP anime, and that's a significantly longer time investment. And unlike the Gintama anime, the material is very rarely enhanced and arguably suffers greatly in adaptation. If you're interested in catching up with the series, I think the manga is the best experience and the way to go, but I suppose it's really going to depend on what you're interested in. You certainly could read it out of order - after all, I did that myself - but part of me has always wished that I could've experienced the series linearly so that certain things would've had more impact if I didn't know they were coming so it's a decision I would think about, especially since OP has a less fragmented and more linear story than Gintama does.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 14, 2017, 10:20:29 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #16 (March 20th, 2017):
Robot x Laserbeam (Cover, Lead CP, New Series by Tadatoshi Fujimaki)
1. One Piece
Dr. Stone (Not Ranked)
Black Clover (CP)
2. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
3. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
The Disastrous Life of Saiki K. (CP)
4. Hinomaru Zumou
5. My Hero Academia
Haikyu!! (CP)
We Never Learn (Not Ranked)
6. The Promised Neverland
Yuna of Yuragi Manor (CP)
U19 (Not Ranked)
7. Spring Weapon No. 1
Hungry Marie (Not Ranked)
Demon Prince Poro's Diaries (Not Ranked)
8. Samon the Summoner
9. Gintama
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~

Great ranking for KnY. Next week MHA gets the cover, and I believe it will be the first ranking for We Never Learn. If Samon hopes to survive then some of these new series have to bomb pretty hard first. Just like Hungry Marie, Dr. Stone got a very high placement for an unranked series. I think that will bode well for it. Anyway, the big news is the new series by Fujimaki. I'm very eager to see what he'll put out this time.


EDIT: Some people are posting the TOC for the other magazines, so I think I'll do it too. Keep in mind: these aren't ranked other than that series regularly near the bottom are not doing well.


Weekly Shonen Sunday Issue #16:
Komi-san wa, Commu-shou Desu (Cover, Lead CP)
Souboutei Must Be Destroyed
Dagashi Kashi
Amano Megumi wa Suki Darake!
Major 2nd
Aozakura
Hayate the Combat Butler
Maiko-san Chi no Makanaisan
Saike Once Again (CP, Part 9)
Tenshi to Akuto!!
Magi
Baka to Tensai (One Shot)
Ryoko
Maou-jou de Oyasumi
Tokiwa Kitareri!!
Hatsukoi Zombie
Be Blues!
Hiiragi-sama wa Jibun wo Sagashiteiru?
Mushibugyo
Dameterasu-sama
Denpa Kyoushi
Keijo!!!!!!!!
Sunday Hikagaku Kenkyuujo

Zettai Karen Children (Psychic Squad), Rinne (Absent)


Weekly Shonen Magazine Issue #16:
Ahiru no Sora (Lead CP)
Seven Deadly Sins
Ace of Diamond
8th August Outlaw
Hoshino, Me wo Tsubutte
Hajime no Ippo
To You, the Immortal
Domestic na Kanojo
Tokyo Revengers
Mahou Sensei Negima! (Special Chapter)
School Rumble (Special Chapter)
Senryuu Shoujo
Seitokai Yakuindomo
Fuuka (Cover, CP)
Fairy Tail
Rankers High
Vector Ball
Baby Steps
Real Account
Days
Fire Force
Knight in the Area
Kindaichi Case Files R
6cm no Kizuna
Tsurezure Children
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 15, 2017, 12:14:26 AM
Nice to see Dr. Stone placed so high even though it's not ranked yet. A good sign. On the flip, doesn't seem like Hungry Marie and Poro are doing so hot being placed so low in the TOC so early on. But HM was pretty high last week so maybe this time's just a flux. But the new series might all still have more time to establish themselves if they finally decide to can Samon and Gintama ends around the time of the next serialization round.

Seeing Souboutei and Dagashi Kashi near the top in Sunday's TOC makes me smile. And I guess Hayate is going out on a relatively strong note considering it's placed pretty high this week.

Weird seeing Fairy Tail placed so low in the TOC since it's usually near the top but then again it's behind Fuuka which has center color so maybe that's not a bad spot after all.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 17, 2017, 12:06:24 PM
Sunday's got six new series lined up starting with Issue 19!: (https://wsstalkback.blogspot.com/2017/03/weekly-shounen-sunday-17-preview.html)

(https://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gByjKvq9LOA/WMvS5meyEZI/AAAAAAAADT0/oXU1xNF1JNI0dH9J0JJAokpZvObsfoBBwCK4B/s640/GzBl8NA.jpg)

Quote19 (Out April 5th) Tenshou no Quadruple by Takahiro Arai (Arago/Darren Shan both in WSS)
20 (Out April 12th) Hoankan Evans no uso ~Dead or Love~ by Mizuki Kuriyama (Newbie)
21 (Out April 19th) Daiku no Hatou by Michiteru Kusaba (Fantasista/Fantasista Stella both in WSS).
Combined issues 22/23 (Out April 26th) Youkai Giga (Temp title) By Satsuki Satou (Newbie)
24 (Out May 10th) K.O.I. by Tamiki Wakaki (Albatross/TWOK both in WSS)
25 (Out May 17th) Inseki Shoujo ~Meteor Girl~ by Riichi Ishiyama (Newbie)

Not much to go on yet, but Youkai Giga looks unique and K.O.I. has potential being from the creator of The World Only God Knows. Looking forward to seeing what comes of these new series!

Also, here are the tribute artwork done by various Shonen Sunday mangaka to commemorate Takahashi selling over 200 million copies of her manga!

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-b6MXMPKhlRw/WMv50eBYGJI/AAAAAAAADUE/6mP5IOQa2tky-83g8n2RAoX4joPg9Eb0QCK4B/s640/C7INnfbXgAErPPZ.jpg)

Quote(in order)  Sakurai (Yuugami) Kotoyama (Dagashi) Oda (Not that one, the Komi-san one) Arakawa (FMA/Silver Spoon) Azuma (Denpa) Shiina (Zettai) Koyama (Maiko-san) Kumanomata (Maojo) Ohtaka (Magi) Adachi (Touch/Cross game) And Aoyama (Conan)

(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-fAryCmbTxbw/WMv55k5LdsI/AAAAAAAADUM/tcBRVW7AVSgoW0-qLoDRxl9ZB-LGHRN3gCK4B/s640/C7INrOtW4AA86Ya.jpg)

QuoteNext is Fujiki (DameTerasu) Fukuda (Mushibugyo) Hata (Hayate) Nishimori (Hiiragi) Tanabe (Birdmen/Kekkaishi) Sorayomi (Keijo!!!) Fujita (Ushio to Tora/Souboutei) Fukuchi (Ueki/Saike) Hirakawa (Tenshi to Akuto) Nekoguchi (Amano Megumi) Nikado (Aozakura) Tanaka (Be Blues).

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-wQ1ymOTS14k/WMv6WeTuE9I/AAAAAAAADUU/wFWSDhnKV-MQpLAJ-VNrpXgslQo5RoTUwCK4B/s640/C7INsalW4AIQGSp.jpg)

QuoteLast is Yokoyama (Sunday Higaku) Mitsuhashi (RYOKO) Matsuena (Kenichi/Tokiwa) Watase (Fushigi Yugi/ Arata) Minenami (Hatsukoi) and Mitsuda (Major/Major 2nd).

Lots of Lum, Kyoko, Ranma, and InuYasha art! But there's a lot of love thrown towards Mermaid Saga and even Takahashi's one-shots too. My favorite pieces have to be Oda, Hirakawa, Shiina, Aoyama, Tanabe, Sorayomi, Fukuchi, Yokoyama, Mitsuhashi, and Watase's, but they're all really lovely. Hopefully we'll see larger versions of them start circulating soon!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 17, 2017, 12:26:21 PM
Six new series. The new editor really is going all out. I guess this is why those series have been ending recently, including Hayate in a few weeks and hopefully Keijo as well. I don't know anything about the new series, but the spread in art styles is definitely nice. So many manga today rely on that generic moe style. These actually look like you'd expect Sunday series should.

They also seem to be really pushing Saike. Without even an anime, this is quite a solid push to get it into people's hands. Though I do think an anime ASAP would be a smart idea. Pretty sure it would grab a lot of attention for that.

Nice art based on Takahashi's series. Big fan of Fujita's art as usual. I sure would like to see her try something like Mermaid Saga again.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 17, 2017, 06:22:14 PM
Volume 8 of Blood Blockade Battlefront is scheduled for November and 9 and 10 are also on the way. (http://imgur.com/X0EPbhA)

Back 2 Back will require a separate license, so here's hoping they jump on that.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 17, 2017, 07:08:02 PM
Awesome! Glad to see they'll finish it after all. Hopefully sales will be good enough to continue them to pick up B2B too.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 17, 2017, 07:24:28 PM
This is kind of out of off topic and out-of-nowhere, but after having played a bunch of Nioh, I'd love to see a video game adaptation of Kimetsu no Yaiba (if it ever got popukar enough for that sort of treatment) directed by Team Ninja. The creative Oni designs and emphasis on combat with swords and different elemental-based styles would translate really well into that sort of gameplay, and evey time I play Nioh I'm reminded of KnY, and vice-versa, especially with the latter's setting being heavily inspired by the Sengoku-period architecture and layout of Japanese society, the same era that Nioh's setting is based in.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 20, 2017, 01:04:04 PM
From what I've seen of Nioh that looks like it would be a good fit. For me I'd like to see Black Clover made into a dungeon crawler loot game where you use the different styles of magic with different characters, and a MHA game done like Rival Schools. Pretty unlikely for those too, though.

This week's chapter of MHA was pretty great. I wasn't expecting so much to be dropped at once. Horikoshi's really pushing this arc with its darker feel even to the point where a school scene doesn't feel the same as usual. I'm really wondering at just what Overhaul is at this point and if any of the heroes are really safe. Things are about to go down.

Promised Neverland is just pushing my buttons at this point. How do you end a chapter like that? There's no more stalling for time, so let's go already!

Now the final series of the Jump's six starts has begun. I'm fairly certain where this one will go, so here's my final ranking for the series.


1) Dr. Stone

This was the best new series without question. It was fun, had dynamic characters, and a unique plot setting, and has some top notch art. You can see the two behind this are no newbies, and it shows. the number one complaint for some was that they can't take it seriously . . . but it's fantasy and not everything has been explained yet, so I don't get that. If this series doesn't get added by Viz or gets canceled instead, I will be pretty upset. There's a lot of good here.

2) Demon Prince Poro's Diaries

I couldn't even tell you why I liked this. But I did. Sure it's pretty much the exact same thing as Spring Weapon #1 and sure it probably won't last, but I liked it. This is strange because Golden Cup and Future Cup winners'' first series are usually garbage, but this one shows a level of competency I wasn't expecting. This guy has talent. People are mixed on this and I can't blame them. There's nothing really original here and nothing that helps it stand out. I don't expect Viz to add it, and I don't expect it to do very well, and that's okay. The series was surprisingly enjoyable to me and I didn't even expect to like it when it was first announced. Either way, I just want to see this guy get more work.

3) Robot Laserbeam

So far it's basically Kuroko without the unneeded supernatural elements. Since it's a sports manga, you pretty well know how the first volume is going to play out so I feel comfortable ranking it here. It's solid and has a good foundation, and it will certainly do well. Most complaints center on how boring it is, but I'm assuming it's from people who don't like sports manga anyway, so I'll just forget those grievances. Viz will be adding it either way so I'm fortunate that it's a series that I like.

4) Hungry Marie

Not a fan of Tamura, as I've said. I don't find the comedy very funny (some lines and panels were good, but they are few and far between), his action still feels very weak and half-thought out, and the characters are very bone dry and thin. But a lot of people do like this, Beelzebub was a hit, and Viz will almost certainly be adding it. I haven't seen many complaints, so I'm clearly in the minority here. That said, there was nothing bad about it. Marie is just not my thing.

5) We Never Learn

This was pleasant. That's all I can really say. The problem is whether it will last or not. Romance series, never mind slice of life series, have a hard time in Jump, and usually have a slow start, so it's hard to decide just how good this will be. If I read more it would probably rank higher, but since Jump probably won't add it (and even if they did, who's to say it won't get cut anyway?) I'm not sure if I could rank it higher yet. We'll see, but for now it is where it is.

6) U19

To be frank, I didn't like it. Unmemorable art, bad pacing, overstuffed and in-congruent ideas, and characters as paper thin as the bad guys are shallow, this series was lame. I have a friend who hates it with the passion of a thousand suns, but I just found it a total miss. It just isn't good. There are a pocket of people who want this series added, but I think they're wasting their time. Early placement in the magazine have not been all too promising, and there has been no buzz. Even if it was, I wouldn't want this added over anything else. I don't know about enjoyability, but U19 had by far the most glaring faults of any of the six to the point that was the weakest piece on just an execution level. The editor should have tightened this up a ton more. Of the six, this was by far the weakest.


All that said, Dr Stone, Hungry Marie, and Robot x Laserbeam are all getting added. You know it and I know it. They'll probably still be around a year from now. I'm pretty sure the other three will all be canceled by the time summer rolls around barring a miracle. On the other hand, it was surprising to see Jump add so many series at once like this. They must really be searching for that hit. I'm not sure if any of these six will be huge, but I think they'll do well enough. The veteran series, at the very least, will almost certainly reach a wide audience.

It was a pretty solid round of new series, all thing's considered.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 20, 2017, 07:18:39 PM
Unrelated, but I recently caught up to the MHA Vigilante spin off.

It's good stuff. I like the nods to the main series blending in to this one as well as the fact that it feels completely organic to Horikoshi's material. The mirror of Knuckleduster being All Might to Koichi's Midoriya while coming to opposite conclusions was a nice touch. It really makes the whole vigilante thing feel almost like a sub-world in the main series (which it is) while keeping the hero life at the forefront as well. I also like the more villain of the week format (though that seems to be leading to something) which differentiates it further from the main series. The writer even knew enough to add little touches like Aizawa not being a well known hero and Tsukauchi actually showing off his policing skills. Really, it feels like any of these characters could pop up in the main series at any time and they would fit just fine.

The only question I have is when this takes place exactly. All Might is still in prime form, and Ingenium is still active, though Mineta made a cameo as did Midoriya's mom, and relative newcomer Kamui Woods is around, which leads me to believe it's probably before the Sports Festival. I'm not sure if it's ever going to tie into the main series at some point, such as Knuckleduster actually discussing his similarities with Midoriya, but it sure is enjoyable and I hope it lasts a good while. The team behind it really do understand the appeal of the main series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 20, 2017, 10:53:15 PM
Fair impressions. My preferences for the Jump Starts would be as follows.

1. Dr. Stone - Easily the best. Unique premise, distinct and dynamic lead characters, brilliant art, great sense of humor, clever writing, and the best embodiment of friendship, effort, victory exemplified in new series in a while. I will be surprised if this isn't a hit.

2. We Never Learn - Rooted in very relatable emotions of trying to succeed in an area where your not naturally talented in and being inspired not to give up by someone who genuinely believes you can do it if you try, there's more going on thematically in WNL than most rom-coms at their start and it made a strong first impression on me with what I think was the best first chapter of any of these Jump Starts. I really like the three leads, and the art and character designs are excellent and expressive, and remind me a lot of Komi's art. It probably won't be added to the Viz Jump, but I'm hoping it's a success in Japan all the same.

3. Hungry Marie - Fun sense of humor with some witty dialogue that made me laugh out loud while reading it, especially the first chapter. It's got a nice wacky supernatural kung-fu premise and the unique twist on the body-switching mechanic. I also like gender-benders and this looks to be a fun one. Probably will be added and I'm looking forward to reading more of it.

4. U19 - I think U19 has a neat enough premise, a strong central relationship between the two leads, and having the powersets rely upon their user's teenage libido has a lot of potential. I even liked how it played the long game with the way it presented it's story over the first three chapters. But it's not unique enough as a YA utopian dystopia and fighting manga for me to really want to see it in Jump over most of the other Jump Starts in this set, and I'm only really ranking it over Robot x Laserbeam just because I don't feel I've gotten enough of a feel for the latter to really say I like it more.

5. Robot X Laserbeam - I've been waiting for this ever since Fujimaki said he wanted to do a golfing manga after Kuroko. The first chapter was solid and Robo is a unique sort of protagonist for a sports series. I can't really rank it higher until I see more of it to compare against the other Jump Starts, but considering how passionate Marlene is about it she'll probably manage to convince Alexis to add it to the Viz Jump so I'm looking to reading more.

6. Demon Prince Poro's Diaries - Poro is a cute enough protagonist, but the premise of a demon coming up to visit the human world and learn from humanity is really common and this didn't seem like it was offering much different than any of the others that have been tried in the last few years.

Overall I thought this was a pretty strong round of Jump Starts. It'll be interesting to see which and how many of these lasts through the year and if any of them really hit it big.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 21, 2017, 09:42:18 AM
Vector Ball is ending, and in the middle of a fight no less. (https://twitter.com/kiirobon/status/844192664903933952) Kodansha is saying it's only the end of "part one," but Raiku claims it's the end of the series. It's been doing well in the Magazine, so there might be something external going on with Raiku himself. I hope he's okay, and can get the chance to finish VB one day.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 21, 2017, 11:06:32 AM
This guy just can't catch a break. I hope it's nothing too serious.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on March 21, 2017, 04:01:35 PM
Damn, I really hope Raiku is ok.  It's a real shame Vector Ball had to end so abruptly.  Based on the first volume, the series seemed to have a lot of promise.  Hopefully, he'll be able to continue it in the future or start a new series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 21, 2017, 10:41:41 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #17 (March 27th, 2017):
My Hero Academia (Cover, Lead CP)
My Hero Academia Smash!! (Special Chapter)
1. Black Clover
2. One Piece
Robot x Laserbeam (CP)
3. Gintama
4. We Never Learn
The Promised Neverland (CP)
Hungry Marie (Not Ranked)
5. Haikyu!!
Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma (CP)
Dr. Stone (Not Ranked)
6. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
7. Hinomaru Zumou
8. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
Demon Prince Poro's Diaries (Not Ranked)
9. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
U19 (Not Ranked)
10. Samon the Summoner
11. Spring Weapon No. 1
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~

Next week MHA gets a color page (probably for the anime) and Boruto gets the cover again. This is the first official ranking for We Never Learn, and that's quite the surprising result. The bottom ranking for Spring Weapon doesn't mean much since it's a gag manga, but that's another low rating for Samon. We Never Learn isn't a cushion for it after all. Still, if WNL is this high, I do wonder how the other series will rate. That should be interesting.


Weekly Shonen Magazine Issue #17:
Baby Steps (Lead CP)
Hoshino, Me wo Tsubutte?
Seven Deadly Sins
Ponanza?Jinrui vs. Saikyou Shougi Soft? (One Shot)
Tokyo Revengers
Domestic na Kanojo
Hajime no Ippo
High & Low G-Sword (CP, New Series)
Real Account
Kindaichi Case Files R
Knight in the Area
Fire Force
Fairy Tail (CP)
Days
Rankers High
Seitokai Yakuindomo (2 Chapters)
8th August Outlaw
Senyuu Shoujo
To You, The Immortal
Fuuka
Vector Ball
Tsurezure Children
6cm no Kizuna
Ahiru no Sora

Ace of Diamond is off this week, and next week Knight in the Area ends. Seven Deadly Sins also gets the cover. Magazine really does seem to throw things all over the TOC. It gets hard to see how anything is doing.


Weekly Shonen Sunday Issue #17:
Sennen no Mushin (Lead CP, One Shot Part 1)
Detective Conan/Case Closed
Souboutei Must Be Destroyed
Major 2nd
Maou-jou de Oyasumi
Hatsukoi Zombie (CP)
Magi
Amano Megumi wa Suki Darake!
Dagashi Kashi
Komi-san wa, Commu-shou Desu
Be Blues!
Tokiwa Kitareri!!
Ryoko
Tenshi to Akuto!!
Hayate the Combat Butler
Aozakura
Zettai Karen Children/Psychic Squad
Maiko-san Chi no Makanaisan
Mushibugyo
Saike Once Again
Dameterasu-sama
Denpa Kyoushi/Ultimate Otaku Teacher
Keijo!!!!!!!!
Sunday Hikagaku Kenkyuujo

Rinne is absent this week. Nothing really out there this time. Keijo remains rock bottom and will hopefully be on the way out soon, but the bigger surprise is a two-part one-shot getting the lead color page. Sunday certainly does some out there things like this from time to time.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on March 22, 2017, 12:47:43 AM
Wow, We Never Learn's first ranking was really good.  I was a bit concerned that it wouldn't do well since Yuna seems to have a strong grip on Nisekoi's former audience, but that may not be the case.  It probably helps that WNL and Yuna's premises are far less similar than that of the latter and Love Rush.  Hopefully, it will be able to keep this up in the coming weeks.  It'll be interesting to see how U19 and Poro perform as well.  All three of the veteran mangaka series have a high chance of being successful imo, so U19 and Poro are the only wild cards left in this batch of Jump Starts.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 22, 2017, 10:27:04 AM
Glad to see We Never Learn get a good first ranking! I'm hoping this means it'll stick around. Will be curious to see how the rest of the recent Jump Starts fare in the rankings in these coming weeks as well.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 21, 2017, 10:41:41 PM
Rinne is absent this week. Nothing really out there this time. Keijo remains rock bottom and will hopefully be on the way out soon, but the bigger surprise is a two-part one-shot getting the lead color page. Sunday certainly does some out there things like this from time to time.

Well, it is the first one-shot Rumiko Takahashi has done for Shonen Sunday in 18 years and celebrates her having 200 million copies of her manga in circulation, which is why the cover of the issue is adorned with a bunch of her characters, so it's kinda a big deal and really no surprise that it was given the lead color.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on March 22, 2017, 04:24:35 PM
...when's MHA premiering again?
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on March 22, 2017, 04:30:48 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on March 22, 2017, 04:24:35 PM
...when's MHA premiering again?

It premieres on April 1st. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 22, 2017, 04:31:10 PM
Next weekend is the first real episode.

But this weekend is a recap episode in its new timeslot and channel so they're understandably hyping it up in Jump.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on March 22, 2017, 08:32:47 PM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on March 22, 2017, 04:30:48 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on March 22, 2017, 04:24:35 PM
...when's MHA premiering again?

It premieres on April 1st.
Deja vu
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on March 22, 2017, 11:55:30 PM
It looks like we have some further clarification on why Vector Ball has ended. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-03-23/zatch-bell-makoto-raiku-abruptly-ends-vector-ball-manga/.113772)

Man, I feel really sorry for Raiku.  It sounds like Vector Ball's lack of success in WSM made him lose his confidence in continuing it.  I really hope things go better with his next work.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 23, 2017, 10:53:33 AM
I think he was expecting too much out of the gate. It takes new series a while to build up steam these days. Or maybe he saw Souboutei's success out of the box and got discouraged he wasn't selling as much.

It's a shame he's just going to walk away instead of at least finishing the current plot line though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 23, 2017, 11:00:37 AM
Raiku has always had confidence issues and is self-deprecating about his own work. I can see how he would feel stressed and unhappy with inorganically changing his story from the way he wanted it to be just to make it more popular, and would prefer just to quit on it altogether. It's just like what happened with Tite Kubo and Zombiepowder. It's a shame, because Vector Ball had a lot of potential, but hopefully Raiku will make a new manga that he can enjoy again. Animal Land proved he has the potential to be one of the greats if he isn't already.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 27, 2017, 11:02:13 AM
Jump came out super early today which was a nice start to my morning. But holy wow, was that ever a bombshell dropped in MHA. If All Might only has a year or two to live, then pretty much any villain that he comes across next could be his death. I'm hoping that Deku will be able to fulfill his promise to All Might before that happens. I'm very happy that Uraraka, Tsuyu, and Kirishima are going to be involved in this arc since they could definitely benefit from more focus and development.

And damn, Promised Neverland. Part of me feels this is happening a little fast, but at the same time I'm excited that the escape plan is finally getting underway. Without Norman and Ray for support, Emma is really going to have to step up as a leader, and I'm in suspense to see whether she can help all of the kids to escape without losing a single one of them.

But my favorite chapters of the week belong to OPM. I love it when Saitama stands up for the values of heroism and it was great to have that moment intercut with a scene of Mumen Rider protecting people in a hospital since he best exemplifies what it means to be a hero out of all the characters in OPM. The fight between Saitama and Suiryu was also just really fun and it's going to be really satisfying to see Suiryu taken down a peg now that Saitama is fighting him seriously.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 27, 2017, 11:47:09 AM
My Hero Academia has just been getting better and better ever over the past year and a half. It's really really proving what narrow-minded idiots all the naysayers are who just slapped the "generic uninspired shonen" label on it after only a single episode. Granted, I was kind of expecting it to go down that path myself with the Sports Festival arc, but everything after that point has been a huge step up in quality, IMO.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 27, 2017, 12:01:18 PM
Everything in this chapter was great, and it doubly helped to see the interview beforehand. Horikoshi is completely open with the fact that he's a huge fan of superheroes and that western comics play a big part in how he created MHA.

Midoriya now has to deal with the possibility that All Might could die at any moment while chasing a villain (two, actually) that can kill in a single touch. This arc stinks of death.

But adding Uraraka, Tsuyu, and Kirishima to the mix should shake things up. The former two haven't had much time in the spotlight recently, and the latter is slowly becoming more and more relevant to the story, so this should be quite the interesting arc. I hope we get to see why they above the other students (other than Bakugo and Todoroki, obviously) chose such intense internships. Going after Overhaul is not going to be easy.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 29, 2017, 07:52:18 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #18 (April 3rd, 2017):
Boruto (Cover)
Yuna of Yuragi Manor (Lead CP)
1. The Promised Neverland
2. One Piece
Boruto (CP)
3. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
My Hero Academia (CP)
Robot x Laserbeam (Not Ranked)
4. Black Clover
5. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma
6. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
7. Haikyu!!
8. We Never Learn
Hungry Marie (Not Ranked)
9. Spring Weapon No. 1
Demon Prince Poro's Diaries (Not Ranked)
Dr. Stone (Not Ranked)
10. Gintama
11. Samon the Summoner
12. U19
13. Hinomaru Zumou
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~

U19's first ranking is pretty bad, honestly. Doesn't look so good. Meanwhile, We Never Learn sticks in the middle and is getting a color page next week. Must be doing decently. Weird seeing Hinomaru last, but I'm guessing this is a fluke chapter. Congrats on Promised Neverland getting #1, especially after the recent chapter. Things are heating up! Uh, pun not intended.


Weekly Shonen Magazine Issue #17:
Seven Deadly Sins (Cover, Lead CP)
Ahiru no Sora
Fuuka
To Your Eternity
Tokyo Revengers (CP)
Real Account
Fairy Tail
Rankers High
Fire Force
Seitokai Yakuindomo
Knight in the Area (CP, End)
Senryuu Shoujo
Hajime no Ippo
Hoshino, Me wo Tsubutte?
Baby Steps
6cm no Kizuna
Days
8th August Outlaw
Domestic na Kanojo
Ace of Diamond
Kindaichi Case Files R
High & Low G-Sword

The series that debuted last week is in last this week. That's... odd. No idea what the deal with that is. And yes, Vector Ball ended last week as Knight in the Area ends this week. I think it's clear that Magazine doesn't rank things purely by popularity or sales.


Weekly Shounen Sunday Issue 18:
Sennen no Mushin (Lead CP, One Shot Part 2)
Detective Conan/Case Closed
Komi-san wa, Commu-shou Desu
Magi
Amano Megumi wa Suki Darake!
Ryoko
Tenshi to Akuto!!
Souboutei Must Be Destroyed
Maiko-san Chi no Makanaisan
Mushibugyo
Hatsukoi Zombie
Be Blues!
Maou-jou de Oyasumi
Hiiragi-sama wa Jibun wo Sagashiteiru
Tokiwa Kitareri!!
Birdmen
Saike Once Again
Hayate the Combat Butler
Dameterasu-sama
Zettai Karen Children
Denpa Kyoushi  / Ultimate Otaku Teacher (End)
Sunday Hikagaku Kenkyuujo

Sunday had a LOT off this week. Rinne, Keijo!, Dagashi Kashi, Major 2nd, and Aozakura, were all off which is quite a hit. The first of the new series start next week, too. Sunday's in the middle of some big shake ups.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on March 29, 2017, 05:06:23 PM
Yeah, it doesn't look like U19  is going to survive for very long.  It probably didn't help that among the 6 Jump Starts, its plot progression per chapter was easily the slowest.  We Never Learn getting a color page next week is hopefully a sign that Jump has faith in the series and is willing to push it.  I'm hoping Viz will pick it up alongside the veteran Jump Starts.  The only rookie series we have left is Poro, and I'm honestly not expecting it to do well.  While the first 3 chapters were enjoyable, it shares a very similar premise to both Samon and Spring Weapon.  It's hard for me to imagine that it will be able to garner much of an audience in the magazine, or with the Jump editors since they seem adamant on keeping Samon around for some reason.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 05, 2017, 11:50:30 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #19 (April 7th, 2017):
Black Clover (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Haikyu!!
2. The Promised Neverland
3. My Hero Academia
Robot x Laserbeam (Not Ranked)
4. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
Hungry Marie (Not Ranked)
Kuromori Climb (CP, One Shot)
5. Spring Weapon No. 1
We Never Learn (CP)
6. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
Dr. Stone (Not Ranked)
7. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
8. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
9. Hinomaru Zumou
10. Samon the Summoner
11. Demon Prince Poro's Diaries
12. Gintama
13. U19
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~

One Piece is absent this week. Next week Haikyu gets the cover. And yes, Hungry Marie is a success and will be getting a color page next week when it would have been its first ranking. Like I originally guessed, Poro didn't do so hot. It and U19 will be the first series knocked out. Robot got the same early high placement as well, which means it's also probably doing well. Not much else of surprise here.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 05, 2017, 03:22:37 PM
So it looks like Kirishima might be invaluable in this arc. His hardening quirk prevents Overhaul's new weapon since it must pierce the skin to be effective. I might say the same about Mirio as well. If the villains have these at their disposal then they have a clear advantage over the heroes. Only question is what Shigaraki's game is.

I'm going to make a prediction that Shigaraki is not going to join Overhaul (at least for "real") because he doesn't agree with nullifying quirks (even if temporary) in order to achieve their goals. Since his first appearance he's been adamant that he hates the idea of quirk registration and limiting people from using them. All For One's ultimate goal was to destroy the system and Overhaul merely wants to put his own system in place. Shigaraki is probably going use Overhaul, but will turn on him at the first opportunity.

Oh, and Promised Neverland and Kimetsu no Yaiba were great this week. MHA is my main event though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 07, 2017, 04:09:39 PM
Series with the highest numbers of first printings. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-04-07/manga-with-biggest-1st-printings-from-kodansha-shogakukan-shueisha-2016-2017/.114453)

Kodansha

Rank   Title   Volume Number   Copies Printed (in thousands)
1   Attack on Titan   19   2070
2   The Seven Deadly Sins   20   660
3   The Heroic Legend of Arslan   5   519
4   Saint Young Men   13   508
5   Ajin   8   440
6   Space Brothers   28   430
7   Ace of Diamond Act II   3   400
8   Fairy Tail   55   400
9   Chihayafuru   32   352
10   Prison School   21   330
11   Cardcaptor Sakura Clear Card-hen   1   300
12   Hozuki's Coolheadedness   22   300
13   Ahiru no Sora   44   270
14   Hajime no Ippo   114   265
15   What Did You Eat Yesterday?   12   265


Shogakukan

Rank   Title   Volume Number   Copies Printed (in thousands)
1   Detective Conan   91   700
2   Major 2nd   5   480
3   Magi   29   480
4   Mix   9   475
5   Dagashi Kashi   5   300
6   Magi: Adventure of Sinbad   10   270
7   I am a Hero   20   232
8   Kobo Ibuki   6   230
9   Koi wa Ameagari no You ni   5   200
10   Blue Giant Supreme   1   200
11   Yokai Watch   11   200
12   Karakai Jozu no Takagi-san   5   190
13   Sou-Bou-Tei Kowasu Beshi   1   180
14   Eiga Yo-kai Watch: Sora Tobu Kujira to Double Sekai no Daiboken da Nyan!   -   180
15   Mobile Suit Gundam Thunderbolt   8   180


Shueisha

Rank   Title   Volume Number   Copies Printed (in thousands)
1   One Piece   84   3600
2   Hunter X Hunter   33   1600
3   Assassination Classroom   21   870
4   Tokyo Ghoul:re   10   820
5   One-Punch Man   12   750
6   Haikyu!!   25   740
7   Kuroko no Basuke Extra Game Kohen   -   680
8   Kingdom   45   680
9   Terra Formars   20   600
10   My Hero Academia   12   560
11   Kimi ni Todoke   28   510
12   D.Gray-man   25   460
13   Bleach   74   450
14   Boruto: Naruto Next Generations   -   450
15   JoJolion   13   430

This only stretches up until last month from the previous year which is why some volume counts are slightly off. Also Silver Spoon is missing since there hasn't been any new releases in a while.

Go Souboutei go! At this rate I can only hope for an anime down the line.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on April 07, 2017, 09:26:03 PM
Damn, didn't expect HXH to be that high. Sucks that Terra Formars is on the list at all.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 09, 2017, 09:02:45 PM
Something sure to excite LumRanmaYasha, To-Love-Ru ain't done yet! (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-04-09/to-love-ru-story-creator-darkness-is-not-the-final-chapter/.114325)

I don't think he'll ever do anything like Black Cat again.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on April 09, 2017, 09:57:10 PM
I really hope that if To Love Ru is coming back, it's either a shorter series or Hasemi does it without Yabuki's involvement.  I can accept if his Black Cat sequel never happens, but I just want Yabuki to move on from his decade of drawing soft-core porn.  It seems like he might have something in mind for a new project, so hopefully he follows through with it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 10, 2017, 01:07:47 PM
That chapter of MHA was awesome. Kirishima's quirk is crazy strong just like Bakugo said. It's good to see just how far he's come along. Also, I wonder if this drug has anything to do with the one from Vigilante. It had the same effect the one that criminal used had.

Also, looks like Viz added Dr. Stone first! I can't complain since it was the one I wanted to see added the most. But this also falls in line with what I expected. Hungry Marie and Robot X Laserbeam will probably be next.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 12, 2017, 12:34:34 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #19 (April 14th, 2017):
Haikyu!! (Cover/Lead CP, 250 Chapters and 5th Anniversary)
1. One Piece
2. My Hero Academia
The Promised Neverland (CP)
Robot x Laserbeam (Not Ranked)
3. Black Clover
Hungry Marie (CP)
4. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma
5. Spring Weapon No. 1
Hinomaru Zumou (CP)
Dr. Stone (Not Ranked)
6. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
7. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
8. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K
9. Gintama
10. We Never Learn
11. Samon the Summoner
12. Demon Prince Poro's Diaries
13. U19
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~

The cover next week will have all the current series main characters on it. One Piece gets the lead CP, and both Kimetsu and Food Wars will be getting color pages. Also we should be getting the first proper ranking of both Dr. Stone and Hungry Marie by then. Nothing a bit surprising here, most people didn't seem to like this chapter of WNL, and it looks like Poro and U19 will be the first casualties when the next batch of series start. It is weird seeing Spring Weapon bounce around so much, though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on April 12, 2017, 01:52:18 AM
Yeah, I think it's safe to say that Poro and U19 are both flops.  It's disappointing to see WNL so low this week, but hopefully it's not a coming trend.  Spring Weapon just confuses me.  I thought for sure that it would be canned early on but it seems to be doing quite well now.  Maybe Jump will give up on Samon and start pushing Spring Weapon instead.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 13, 2017, 11:16:03 PM
Looks like Viz will be picking up We Never Learn and Robot X Laserbeam judging from author credits on their site. So we know 3 of the 6 will be getting added.

I'm not complaining, but I would be floored if Hungry Marie wasn't added. I was dead certain it was the most popular of the six.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on April 14, 2017, 11:03:35 AM
I'm happy to hear that Viz will actually be adding We Never Learn, though it is strange that they're adding it before Hungry Marie.  That being said, I still think they'll pickup Hungry Marie in the coming weeks.  It's too big of a series to pass up, and it would be strange for them to only grab 2 of the 3 veteran Jump Starts, especially since they're likely to have the best longevity.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 14, 2017, 11:57:21 AM
Also looks like Promised Neverland just passed Yuna in sales with the recent volume. It nearly sold 100,000 copies.  Glad to see it's doing really well.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 19, 2017, 12:23:52 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #21/22 (April 21st, 2017):
WSJ Cast (Cover)
One Piece (Lead CP)
1. My Hero Academia
2. Haikyu!!
Chingiri (CP, One Shot)
Robot x Laserbeam (Not Ranked)
3. The Promised Neverland
Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction (CP)
4. Spring Weapon No. 1
5. Black Clover
Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma (CP)
6. Dr. Stone
7. Gintama
8. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
9. Hinomaru Zumou
10. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
11. We Never Learn
12. Samon the Summoner
13. Hungry Marie
14. Demon Prince Poro's Diaries
15. U19
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~

Wow, I wasn't expecting this reaction to Hungry Marie. I was certain it would do much better. Pair it up with Viz not picking it up and I'm suddenly pessimistic for it. We Never Learn will probably be sticking around for awhile, Poro and U19 are all but done, though it looks like Dr. Stone had a successful debut. I guess we have to wait to see how Robot did, but I was expecting them all to rank a little better than they did here. Promised Neverland is getting the cover for the next issue. Glad to see it's a hit!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on April 19, 2017, 01:55:51 PM
Damn, that's very low first ranking for Hungry Marie.  Considering that Jump bothered to give it a color page last week, I don't think it should be completely discounted yet.  I suspect Jump will try to push the series a bit more before they attempt to cancel it.  Right now, the only cancellations that are a safe bet are U19 and Poro, imo.  That being said, it seems like Viz did end up getting the three most successful Jump Starts (I'm still hoping that they pick up HM though). 

After a long time, I'm finally fully caught up with all the weekly series in english Shonen Jump, and Promised Neverland is getting intense as hell.  That upcoming Lead CP is definitely well deserved with how great it's been.  Since I'm starting to have a lot more free time lately, I want to try to start reading Kimetsu no Yaiba and Hinomaru Sumo.  I'll also probably check out Yuna of Yuragi Manor out of pure curiosity of its popularity.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 21, 2017, 03:50:00 PM
Keijo has ended! (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-04-21/daichi-sorayomi-ends-keijo-aquatic-sports-manga/.115127)

For a series that was an abject failure, this sure took a long time to end.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on April 21, 2017, 05:21:56 PM
Yeah, this was long overdue considering how badly the series sells.  With Shogakukan trying to revitalize the magazine, hopefully they'll be a bit more strict when it comes to cancelling series from now on.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Painted Outlaw on April 21, 2017, 10:29:50 PM
And, nothing of value was lost.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 21, 2017, 11:08:48 PM
One might even say that this is a gain for the magazine. As in, it could gain an actual worthwhile series to fill in that now vacant slot.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 27, 2017, 11:02:28 AM
And the creator is burning bridges along the way. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-04-26/keijo-manga-creator-explains-cancellation/.115353)

I have trouble feeling sympathetic when other authors in Shonen Sunday (like Fujita) never got near the promotion and chances his work got despite having a much higher sales base that could have been promoted instead. This series was a flop from day one and never should have gotten the insane pushes it did. Keijo fans trying to spin this as a screw-job really don't know what they're talking about.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on April 27, 2017, 02:35:36 PM
The people who say that Sunday is in the wrong for cancelling Keijo are no different than those who called Jump "disgusting and awful" for giving Kubo an ultimatum with Bleach.  Regardless of the quality of the actual series, Keijo lasted in Sunday for longer than it had any right to.  If it had been in Jump, it would have been cancelled in a heartbeat. 

I'm currently about half-way to being caught up with Yuna of Yuragi Manor and Kimetsu no Yaiba, and I have pretty positive impressions of both so far.  KnY in particular is giving me some serious HxH vibes, which is certainly explaining why Togashi has given his seal of approval for the series.  I should be completely caught up by sometime next week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 27, 2017, 04:50:48 PM
Kimetsu no Yaiba is probably my second favorite currently running WSJ manga after MHA; I'm not counting One Piece since that series is now basically exempt from having to worry about competing for rank (not that it ever really ranks particularly low on any given week). That said, I'm going to be starting The Promised Neverland soon enough, so that could potentially usurp it and MHA since going by the premise, this series should really be up my alley.

I recently caught up with Dr. Stone and Robot X Laserbeam. Dr. Stone feels tonally very similar to Eyeshield 21, in that the plot is something that you would expect to take itself very seriously, yet the delivery is intentionally over the top, both in terms of its humor as well as its more genuine moments. That worked well for Eye shield 21, but admittedly feels a bit awkward with this set-up. That said, the general impression that I have so far is leaning more towards the positive side, so I'll be sticking around to see how this series plays out for at least a while.

As for RXL, firstly I just want to commend Fujimaki Tadatoshi on coming up with the most awesomely misleading title for a manga series in recent memory. Clearly "Roboto no Golf" wouldn't have been the most attention-grabbing thing out there, so he had to spice it up somehow.  :>

As for the manga itself, it's pretty entertaining so far. It's nothing atypical for the genre, but even given how Tadatoshi clearly lost momentum with KnY after about the first two-thirds, I have to give him credit for understanding sports manga story structure well enough in order to set up key characters and get you invested in their development and growth fairly quickly, which is a lot harder to do than it sounds. That said, the one thing that I could see backfiring on Tadatoshi is how clearly overpowered Roboto is. I have no problems with the main character being a genius at whichever field they compete in. That said, if they are doing this well against top-level players this early on, then the series runs the risk of getting tiresome and predictable really fast. Both Food Wars and Black Clover are currently facing that very problem, IMO. Occasionally an OP character can work if the series is high-stakes like Akagi, or a bat-shit-insane comedy like Yakitate!! Japan, but since RXL is comparatively more tame and serious, it is a bit worrying to see how godly Roboto is this early on. That said, despite my distaste for where Kuroko ended up, and how much I loathe the spin-off, Tadatoshi has still produced more good content than bad, in my eyes, and the good stuff shows that he has some genuine talent up his sleeve. If his editor guides him properly, this could be a pretty fun sports manga in the long run.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on April 27, 2017, 06:16:02 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 27, 2017, 04:50:48 PM

As for the manga itself, it's pretty entertaining so far. It's nothing atypical for the genre, but even given how Tadatoshi clearly lost momentum with KnY after about the first two-thirds, I have to give him credit for understanding sports manga story structure well enough in order to set up key characters and get you invested in their development and growth fairly quickly, which is a lot harder to do than it sounds. That said, the one thing that I could see backfiring on Tadatoshi is how clearly overpowered Roboto is. I have no problems with the main character being a genius at whichever field they compete in. That said, if they are doing this well against top-level players this early on, then the series runs the risk of getting tiresome and predictable really fast. Both Food Wars and Black Clover are currently facing that very problem, IMO. Occasionally an OP character can work if the series is high-stakes like Akagi, or a bat-shit-insane comedy like Yakitate!! Japan, but since RXL is comparatively more tame and serious, it is a bit worrying to see how godly Roboto is this early on. That said, despite my distaste for where Kuroko ended up, and how much I loathe the spin-off, Tadatoshi has still produced more good content than bad, in my eyes, and the good stuff shows that he has some genuine talent up his sleeve. If his editor guides him properly, this could be a pretty fun sports manga in the long run.

I'm not too worried about Robato being overpowered right now, especially because the latest chapter showed he's pretty bad at putting and pitching. Robato has a powerful drive with his iron and learns quickly, but golf is a game that requires tempering the power you put behind each shot based on club, terrain, and distance, as well as technique and precision, and it seems so far Robato isn't skilled at anything but straightforward drives. So he has a lot of room for improvement.

Quote from: VLordGTZ on April 27, 2017, 02:35:36 PM
The people who say that Sunday is in the wrong for cancelling Keijo are no different than those who called Jump "disgusting and awful" for giving Kubo an ultimatum with Bleach.  Regardless of the quality of the actual series, Keijo lasted in Sunday for longer than it had any right to.  If it had been in Jump, it would have been cancelled in a heartbeat. 

We'll discuss the Keijo!!!!!!!! news on the next Manga Mavericks, but this is basically my position. I sympathize with the mangaka for the effort and dedication he put into a series he really wanted to succeed, but at the end of the day it was on life support from day one. Shokakugan gave it plenty of chances, more than many series and mangaka get in both Sunday and other magazines, and for it to get an anime when more successful Sunday series haven't, said anime not selling that well, or giving the manga a decent boost in sales, you can't say Sunday had much of a reason to continue running what was arguably their least successful currently running series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 27, 2017, 06:50:32 PM
As far as KnY, I'm really enjoying the current train arc. I was expecting it to slow down for a while after the Spider Mountain arc, but that just seems to not be the case. I'm still disappointed Viz didn't pick this up, but hopeful they could eventually license it for volume releases down the road.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 28, 2017, 03:30:32 PM
I'm about a dozen chapters into The Promised Neverland. Just based on early impressions, this series gives me a similar sort of feeling to Death Note, in that it focuses on psychological battles of a sort in a way that makes it stand out from its other Shonen Jump contemporaries. Obviously the actual plot and characters feel completely different, but the vibes that I personally get from it so far are very Death Note-esque, and I mean that in a good way, though obviously my impressions of it can drastically alter the further along I read.

Overall, though, it's another good series currently running in WSJ's lineup.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 28, 2017, 06:06:24 PM
From an early interview regarding the series:

QuoteSome of Shirai's influences include Naoki Urasawa, Takeshi Obata, Yusei Matsui (He liked Neuro a lot), Hirohiko Araki in suspense factor, and various others.
I think that explains a lot about why it works so well. You can see influences of all of them in there.

I'm not sure how he's gonna keep it up, but it sure is a fun series to read week to week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 30, 2017, 10:00:00 PM
Isabella from The Promised Neverland makes me realize how few great female villains I've encountered in manga, especially shonen manga. I mean, there are definitely others, but not many that have really stood out to me. I think what works so well about her is that you know that she's always up to something, yet you are often left in the dark as to what she's actually thinking or what kind of tricks she has up her sleeve, so when she finally does make a move it often catches you off guard, making her leave a big impression despite seemingly not doing that much.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 01, 2017, 05:51:54 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #23 (May 4th, 2017):
The Promised Neverland (Cover, Lead CP)
1. My Hero Academia
2. One Piece
Boruto (CP)
3. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
4. Black Clover
5. Spring Weapon No. 1
Dr. Stone (CP)
6. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
7. Haikyuu!!
Samon the Summoner (CP)
8. Robot x Laserbeam
9. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
10. We Never Learn
11. Hinomaru Zumou
12. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
13. Hungry Marie
14. Gintama
15. Demon Prince Poro's Diaries
16. U19
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~


Speaking of TPN, it's got the cover this week and lead color. AND it's getting a color page next week. There are no real surprises this week except the obvious result that Poro and U19 will the first out. I'm still surprised at the reaction to Hungry Marie. I really thought it would rank better. Kimetsu no Yaiba is getting the cover next week and a popularity poll for its first year. It's safe to say it's a success at this point.

None of the new series are lighting Jump on fire right now, but it's too early to say how things will go. It might be a case of fans already liking the current line up quite a bit and not voting for the newer series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 03, 2017, 12:38:13 AM
This Keijo crap is STILL going on. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-feature/2017/05/01-1/feature-found-in-translation-the-reason-why-the-keijo-manga-ended)

I'm just going to throw my hands up on this one. The series didn't sell; Sunday canceled it. This isn't rocket science.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on May 03, 2017, 01:58:53 AM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 03, 2017, 12:38:13 AM
This Keijo crap is STILL going on. (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-feature/2017/05/01-1/feature-found-in-translation-the-reason-why-the-keijo-manga-ended)

I'm just going to throw my hands up on this one. The series didn't sell; Sunday canceled it. This isn't rocket science.

You'd think that people would have made more fuss about Bleach's cancellation if they were this pissed at Keijo's.  :humhumhum:

But yeah, people should just realize that this is basic business sense and move on already.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 03, 2017, 07:49:45 AM
Frog-kun's article is meant to dissuade the idea that Keijo was canceled because its anime under-performed. Which he's right about.

To quote a tweet Maxy made yesterday, "Keijo the comic was cancelled because Keijo the comic under-performed." People are placing too much stock in how well anime did when the manga ended because it just wasn't doing well as a manga.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 06, 2017, 01:03:37 PM
I normally love SuperEyepatchWolf's videos, but his recent state of Shonen Jump vid was depressingly misinformed and downright bad. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6muu81gSLaM&t=0s) The OP sales figures were anomalously high in 2010 because people were binge-buying the backlog thanks to the hype surrounding the Marineford arc. Yes, sales of OP have dramatically declined since then, but that's because that peak was for a dramatic and fleeting moment in time for the series, and it's still blowing away all other manga in sales even now. The declining subscription numbers are noteworthy, but Jump's also been moving digital so you need to take into account the number of people who have moved to online subscriptions from print to get the big picture. You can't just judge series success based on survey results because Jump doesn't strictly arrange the lineup based on popularity, and survey success does not always translate into tankobon sales, which matter so much more. Series that are heading towards their endings like Nisekoi and Toriko were last year and Gintama is now were placed at the back because they're on their way out anyways. And his comments about the recent Jump Starts are particularly aggravating because based on his comments about there only being "one chapter of Poro out" it's clear he didn't do the research and isn't subscribed to the english Shonen Jump, which ran the first three chapters of Poro and have them readily available to read for free on their website! (https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/chapters/demon-prince-poros-diaries) For someone who says he's passionate about Shonen Jump series, he sure doesn't show it by not supporting the official release or putting in the research to know what the official names for series like We Never Learn are.

Clearly the only solution to stop the spread of misinformation like this is for someone who actually supports legal manga and subscribes to the official english Shonen Jump to become a youtuber. ...Goddamit.

EDIT: Here's a great video from another youtuber debunking the whole TOC=popularity poll myth.  (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MfOmLWA1p1Y&feature=youtu.be)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on May 06, 2017, 02:04:59 PM
I like SEW's videos, but this was just downright awful.  His "Top 10" Jump series also make no sense since, going by his logic, Kimetsu no Yaiba and Yuna of Yuragi Manor should be higher than Samon.  Not to shit on the guy, but you'd think with how much research he puts into his other videos, he would have made sure to be well informed for such a large topic.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 06, 2017, 02:26:59 PM
I do like a lot of Super Eyepatch Wolf's content, mostly for the clear passion he has in discussing the series and subjects that matter to him, and I also love a lot of the same series. That said, he has always had an issue of poorly researching background information pertaining to what he talks about, leading to videos that have a certain level of ignorance in what he's talking about. On its own, I wouldn't mind too much, but since he has so many followers, it rapidly spreads this misinformation across the community, which is really a problem.

Also on the subject of Super Eyepatch Wolf, he has another problem that I've been having with most anime and manga YouTubers in general. While I can perfectly respect them having comparatively negative opinions of stuff that I or others like, the way that they elevate the quality of the series that they love by barely touching on its flaws while lazily criticizing only the weaker aspects of series that they aren't a fan of in comparison reeks of double-standards and absolutely drives me up the wall. On this front, SEW isn't nearly as bad as Digibro (who to be clear makes some legit good content, but his criticism videos can be insanely aggravating) or various other YouTubers, but it's still an issue that pops up at least once or twice in every video that he makes.

Comparatively, Mathwiz is an anime YouTuber who generally seems to be a bit more respectful about how he talks about various series, even the ones that he admittedly doesn't care for, though even he can venture into this territory from time to time. I still give him a bit more of a pass, though, since he did do a great video promoting MistareFusion and his Dragon Ball Dissection series.

I think what bugs me about how such criticism is handled, though, is that you can criticize something without trying to paint it out as dumb or inherently inferior which can feel rather insulting to anyone who likes it for different reasons. And I'm not insinuating that it's the intention of any of these YouTubers (well, not for most of them, anyways) to misinform or insult the intelligence of any of their audience, but rather that some of the ways in which they compose their criticisms can certainly come off that way.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 06, 2017, 10:47:34 PM
Yeah, negative comparisons are a lazy and abused form of criticism. I've been guilty of it myself in the past when criticizing series like Bleach and Fairy Tail, but it's important to recognize a double-standard and avoid putting another series you like on a pedestal solely to devalue one you don't. There's smarter ways of getting a point across than calling people who like something you don't dumb.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Avaitor on May 06, 2017, 11:12:45 PM
A friend of mine posted this video, and I noticed some things that seemed off, but I'm not as familiar with the manga industry or Jump's readership status to call it out. I'm glad to see that there are logical explanations for why this was wrong.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 07, 2017, 02:55:08 PM
On another note, I'm writing Weekly Shonen Jump reviews again! (http://all-comic.com/2017/jump-2017-bonus-issue-0501/) I'm posting them on All-Comic now since I've been writing a lot of reviews for them recently and I felt like it made sense to have all my manga reviews/podcasts centralized in one place. I've just posted my review of last week's bonus issue, and hope to make After the Jump a regular series again, so check them out if you're interested!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 07, 2017, 03:58:25 PM
This video feels like it was written in a bubble. I've been seeing it all over the place and a lot of people are tearing into it. With good reason.

There's no point even mentioning Samon over Kimetsu no Yaiba and Yuna (which the video utterly ignores?) since it's not a hit in any sense and is wrapping up and the other two have outranked it utterly in sales and popularity.

How do Naruto and Bleach ending make it feel like something is afoot in the magazine? They ended. Their stories were completed. Just like every series that has run since the magazine started. If anything Naruto and Bleach should have ended years ago but sales were why they stuck around.

He also spoke too early on old series losing popularity and new series gaining it. Food Wars still sells as much as ever and the rankings are back to normal. World Trigger's last ranking before hiatus was at #1 and it was consistently in the top 5 before then. Haikyu rotates all over the top ten and always has. Hinomaru ranks around the middle to near the top. Promised Neverland, Black Clover, and KnY are the only newer series to consistently rank high. He really should have looked at 2017 data before making his points.

Toriko's sales stagnated after the anime ended and quickly lost popularity. Gintama has been winding down for over a year now. The reason these series are ending is not a mystery. Kochikame was for the 40th anniversary and to give him a chance to do something new. Assassination Classroom and Nisekoi also ended their stories.

There's no pattern here except the coincidence of so many series reaching the end at the same time. Why did he try to insinuate anything else other than the obvious?

And once again, no one ever points out the most obvious problem with comparing sales. We don't know how much digital volumes sell. Japan is way more into digital content than any other country. All magazines and print volumes are on a sales decline. This is well known. But you can't just ignore digital sales when it comes to Japan. That's a pretty big deal when discussing sales. But it is never brought up when discussing how Jump is doing. Series hit sales peaks, and that was One Piece's. Magi, Seven Deadly Sins, Fairy Tail, and other popular series all had the same thing happen. This isn't even factoring in Marineford and the Strong World event which even non-fans like me remember. There's nothing mysterious here.

This whole video is a whole lot of nothing. But then I find SEW really likes to do things that reinforce his already made up opinion a lot of the time.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 07, 2017, 09:49:08 PM
I really wish publishers started reporting their digital sales figures. It would be really helpful to contextualize how series are doing relative to each other more accurately, since declining print sales just don't reflect the big picture and how digital is slowly becoming the method of choice for consuming manga over print media.  If we had that data, it would be really easy to correct and dispel the misinformed theories that SEW and others have perpetuated. His video really is more of a conspiracy theory characterized by confirmation bias over concrete facts.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 08, 2017, 01:09:52 PM
Great set of chapters this week. MHA, TPN, and Dr. Stone in particular were really strong. I also really liked the bizarre plot turn in Black Clover; the series is always at its best when it tries being more comedic.

But I still have no idea what's happening in Seraph. I lost the plot string a while back.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 09, 2017, 11:00:06 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #24 (May 11th, 2017):
Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Haikyu!!
2. One Piece
The Promised Neverland (CP)
3. Dr. Stone
Spring Weapon No. 1 (CP)
4. My Hero Academia
5. Hinomaru Zumou
6. Black Clover
Robot x Laserbeam (CP)
7. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
8. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
9. Gintama
10. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
11. We Never Learn
12. Samon the Summoner
13. Hungry Marie
14. Demon Prince Poro's Diaries
15. U19
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~

Next week Saiki gets the cover and Yuna and Haikyu get color pages. Great to see Dr. Stone successful, but it looks like three of the new series were not very well liked, one is middling so far, and the other two seem to be decent hits. Though I'm still wondering how many new series will show up in the next round.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Daikun on May 11, 2017, 12:24:05 AM
Bye bye Fairy Tail. (https://twitter.com/YonkouProd/status/861946007503880192)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 11, 2017, 11:01:48 PM
I've never been able to get into Fairy Tail. I've tried multiple times since it started and I just can't do it.

Mashima is good artist and character designer, but his writing leaves a lot to be desired. Crap like "Because she's Erza" is the epitome of everything people dislike about shonen. His writing devolved since Rave Master, and it's really hard to stomach.

He'd honestly have to do a lot of convincing for me to be excited for whatever he does next.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 15, 2017, 12:45:41 PM
So, the most recent chapter of Food Wars really sums up my problems with the whole Central Saga in general: Soma and his friends are put in situations where they have to win otherwise there's no way that the plot can move forward, and despite going up against high level opponents, they are subject to glaring oversites that cost them the match. There is absolutely no way that a Soba expert, whether traditional or not, wouldn't take into consideration how the temperature of the room would affect the quality of the dish, especially when Soma was able to consider that. And don't use the defense that Soma knew because he served customers on a regular basis. Even if Nene never did that, she was trained in the same way that previous generations of her family had been trained, and you can't tell me that none of them knew about how the season could affect the flavor of their ingredients.

This is just really contrived writing due to a very poor set up and foundation for the villains. Essentially, Central has been put in a position where they have to lose, and thus the only way to do that without making the main characters look ridiculously overpowered is to make the lower to mid-level Elite Council characters look uncharacteristically incompetent in one way or another.

I really just hope that we can move past this arc as quickly as possible and hopefully get back to better stuff.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 16, 2017, 11:19:59 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #25 (May 18th, 2017):
The Disastrous Life of Saiki K. (Cover, Lead CP)
1. My Hero Academia
2. The Promised Neverland
3. Black Clover
4. Dr. Stone
Haikyu!! (CP)
5. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
6. Spring Weapon No. 1
Yuna of Yuragi Manor (CP)
7. Hinomaru Zumou
8. Samon the Summoner
Watashi no Cherry Boyfriend (CP, One Shot)
9. Robot x Laserbeam
10. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
11. We Never Learn
12. Hungry Marie
13. Gintama
14. U19
15. Demon Prince Poro's Diaries
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~


Hinomaru Zumou is getting the cover next week (it's been a while!) and KnY is getting another color page as is Food Wars. It does appear that of the six new series the only one doing phenomenally well is Dr. Stone. But WNL continues to hang in the middle and Kuroko also didn't place high near the beginning so not much surprise there. We should be getting ready for a new serialization round soon so we'll shortly being saying goodbye to U19 and Poro. Samon had an odd boost, but that might be due to it apparently wrapping up so who knows. Either way, no real surprises this week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 17, 2017, 12:22:08 AM
Shonen Jump circulation drops below 2 million. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-05-16/weekly-shonen-jump-circulation-drops-below-2-million/.116173)

Cue the sky is falling folks not taking into account that digital sales are an unknown factor and every single print magazine has dropped.

But no, this must be because they canceled Bleach or something.

EDIT: Notice that Sunday had a bit of a boost in popularity and sales a year ago? That was about the time Souboutei started. Interesting then that it still gets no coverage.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on May 17, 2017, 11:30:41 PM
But Spark, CLEARLY this is a sign that One Piece's popularity is declining and Jump is dying as a result!  :>

In all seriousness, this is more than likely due to the shift towards digital sales.  From what I understand, Sunday and WSM both sell particularly better digitally now, so Jump's sales are also probably starting to follow that trend.

It's good to see that RxL's first ranking is decent since I've been enjoying the manga a lot.  Dr. Stone seems to be the standout hit of the Jump Starts, which isn't too big of a surprise considering its strong premise and Boichi's spectacular art.  From what I've heard, recent developments in Samon have made people suspect that the series might continue on longer than initially expected, so it's anyone's guess to when it will actually end.  It's hard for me to imagine it lasting past this year though, considering that its volume sales aren't that good.  Poro and U19 are definitely going to get canned when the next round of Jump Starts come.  Even though Hungry Marie isn't doing that great, I suspect that Jump might keep it around a little longer in hope that it garners some more interest.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 23, 2017, 10:32:10 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #26 (May 25th, 2017):
Hinomaru Zumou (Cover, Lead CP, 3rd Anniversary)
1. My Hero Academia
2. One Piece
Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction (CP)
3. Robot×Laserbeam
4. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
Alice to Taiyou (CP, One Shot)
5. Black Clover
Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma (CP)
6. Promised Neverland
7. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
8. Haikyu!!
9. We Never Learn
10. Gintama
11. Dr. Stone
12. Samon the Summoner
13. Spring Weapon No. 1
14. Demon Prince Poro's Diaries
15. Hungry Marie
16. U19
Isobe Isobee Monogatari


Black Clover gets the cover next week and Dr. Stone, We Never Learn, and Boruto are getting color pages next week. I guess its a sign that those two will be sticking around for a while. No sign on cancellations yet, but I'd have to imagine Poro and U19 are the first out. I think RxL, DS, and WNL, are the three that will last for at least a little while.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 24, 2017, 09:13:17 PM
Someone is finally scanlating Soubotei Must Be Destroyed! (http://bato.to/reader#e83952dc531f62cf_3) Only the first chapter has been done so far, but hopefully they'll continue. I haven't had a chance to properly read it yet but I wanted to share it with you guys asasp.  ;)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 24, 2017, 09:27:01 PM
"The following tale begins and ends with a single house. This is the story of a haunted mansion."

Yep, it's Fujita. Fairy tale storytelling in a shonen package. I'm grateful that someone has finally got around to translating it. Now hopefully this will spread around and get people interested.

EDIT: Now that was a great first chapter. Really packed and exciting start. Already I want more.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 30, 2017, 10:20:19 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #27 (June 1st, 2017):
Black Clover (Cover, Lead CP)
1. One Piece
2. The Promised Neverland
Dr. Stone (CP)
3. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
4. Haikyu!!
Boruto (CP)
5. My Hero Academia
We Never Learn (CP)
6. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma
7. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
8. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
9. Hinomaru Zumou
Samon the Summoner (END)
10. Robot x Laserbeam
11. Gintama
12. Hungry Marie
13. Spring Weapon No. 1
14. Demon Prince Poro's Diaries
15. U19
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~


There are two new series starting this round with HxH returning soon after. This means in addition to Samon ending here, U19 and Poro will also probably be ending next. Also, Yuna, Robot, and Promised Neverland will be getting a colored page next week.

The two new series are by the creator of Straighten Up! (yes, already!) and Tokyo Wonder Boys. It'll be interesting to see what they come up with next.

Still no word on World Trigger.  :-\
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 01, 2017, 12:33:14 PM
Top selling manga series of the first half of 2017 in Japan (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-06-01/top-selling-manga-in-japan-by-series-2017/.116861):

1. One Piece (5,969,851)
2. Attack on Titan (3,974,437)
3. Kingdom (3,244,618)
4. Haikyu!! (3,086,097)
5. Tokyo Ghoul:re (2,154,752)
6. My Hero Academia (2,097,088)
7. One-Punch Man (1,982,356)
8. The Seven Deadly Sins (1,881,062)
9. Detective Conan (1,653,403)
10. Food Wars! Shokugeki no Soma (1,469,092)

Other notables down the list include World Trigger (it's been on hiatus all 2017!), and DAYS apparently getting a good bump from the anime. As for individual volumes, Promised Neverland's first two volumes have cracked 200,000 each. Very impressive for a newer series.

Glad to see MHA doing so well. It's sales have gone up since the anime started again so I think it will be higher by the end of the year.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on June 01, 2017, 05:36:35 PM
It looks like Sh?dan! will be a soccer manga while Cross Account seems to be a rom-com series. (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-06-01/weekly-shonen-jump-magazine-launches-2-new-manga-this-month/.116875)

It's interesting seeing another soccer manga in Jump so soon after Ole Golazo.  Maybe Jump has faith that Yokota's take on the sport will be more successful.  If Cross Account is really another rom-com, I'm not sure how long it's going to last.  Yuna and We Never Learn are already filling the romance niche in the magazine, so I wonder if there is room for a third one.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 01, 2017, 12:33:14 PM
Top selling manga series of the first half of 2017 in Japan (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-06-01/top-selling-manga-in-japan-by-series-2017/.116861):

1. One Piece (5,969,851)
2. Attack on Titan (3,974,437)
3. Kingdom (3,244,618)
4. Haikyu!! (3,086,097)
5. Tokyo Ghoul:re (2,154,752)
6. My Hero Academia (2,097,088)
7. One-Punch Man (1,982,356)
8. The Seven Deadly Sins (1,881,062)
9. Detective Conan (1,653,403)
10. Food Wars! Shokugeki no Soma (1,469,092)

I'm happy to see Conan break into the top 10 in sales.  Hopefully, it will keep it up in the second half of the year.  Black Clover also showed up at #28, which I'm expecting to get a significant boost with its anime on the way.  Overall, sales are looking pretty good.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 01, 2017, 10:39:59 PM
I really enjoyed Straighten Up!, and Jump could always use more sports manga, so I'm hoping Shudan does well. Cross Account's description is intriguing, so I'm curious about that one as well. Doubt either will be added to the english Jump since the lineup's filled up again, though.

I'm glad to see World Trigger is doing well even though it's been on hiatus. Good sign that the series is safe even if Ashihara's hiatus will have to continue for most of the year.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 06, 2017, 10:51:34 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #28 (June 8th, 2017):
Shudan! (Cover, Lead CP, New Series by Takuma Yokota)
1. Gintama
2. One Piece
The Promised Neverland (CP)
3. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
4. Haikyu!!
5. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
Yuna of Yuragi Manor (CP)
6. Hinomaru Zumou
7. Black Clover
8. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
9. Dr. Stone
Robot x Laserbeam (CP)
10. We Never Learn
Nante Kotta! Pharaoh-kun (Special Chapter)
11. Spring Weapon No. 1
12. Hungry Marie
13. Demon Prince Poro's Diaries
14. U19 (END)
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~


Horikoshi took a week break at the last minute, it looks like. Hope he's okay. A lot of surprises here otherwise. I'm guessing something big is happening in Gintama right now for it to be put near the front. All of the newer series are near the bottom including RxL's color page, and U19 ended, which leads me to believe only WNL and Dr. Stone will be sticking around for a while. Next week KnY and Gintama are both getting color pages the latter of which is for the final popularity poll.

I'm hoping Horikoshi doesn't have anything serious like Ashihara. He skipped a week a few months back, so I hope this isn't a continuation of whatever that was.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 14, 2017, 11:04:16 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #29 (June 15th, 2017):
Cross Account (Cover, Lead CP, New Series by Tsunehiro Date)
1. Black Clover
2. One Piece
Gintama (CP)
3. Haikyu!!
4. My Hero Academia
Shudan! (CP)
5. The Promised Neverland
6. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction (CP)
7. Dr. Stone
8. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
9. Hinomaru Zumou
10. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
11. We Never Learn
12. Spring Weapon No. 1
13. Robot x Laserbeam
14. Hungry Marie
15. Demon Prince Poro's Diaries (END)
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~


Not a whole lot surprising this week. The new series as a whole aren't doing too hot. Next week MHA gets the cover, and both Cross Account and HxH get color pages. That's right, Togashi is doing a color page! Should be interesting to see where the series rank without those two to bounce off of, but I'm guessing Hungry Marie is not going to be one of the survivors. Oh well, as long as my favorites survive.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 20, 2017, 11:13:07 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #30 (June 22nd, 2017):
My Hero Academia (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
2. The Promised Neverland
Hunter x Hunter (CP)
Shudan! (Not Ranked)
3. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
Cross Account (CP)
4. Dr. Stone
5. Haikyu!!
Misteria -Kaiki Collection- (CP, One Shot)
6. Black Clover
7. Spring Weapon No. 1
8. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
9. Gintama
10. Hinomaru Zumou
11. We Never Learn
12. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
13. Robot x Laserbeam
14. Hungry Marie
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~


Congrats on KnY for its first ever #1 ranking and for MHA for another cover. With this it's safe to say that it, Promised Neverland, and Dr. Stone will be sticking around for a bit. However, it does not look good for Hungry Marie or Robot x Laserbeam. It's so weird to see two series by established vets so far down in the rankings, but it might be that they just haven't found their audience. It looks like the six new series strategy wasn't such a hit idea after all. Next week Yuna gets the cover for the first time since its debut, and Food Wars, Promised Neverland, and Dr. Stone get color pages.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 20, 2017, 11:49:38 PM
I actually feel kind of bad for Tadatoshi. I'm personally really enjoying RXL. Perhaps Japanese readers are starting to get burned out on the sports genre, though?

Well, at least Dr. Stone is fairing decently so far. It'll probably stick around for a while.

I'm really happy for KnY. Obviously I haven't read the latest chapter since it's yet to be translated, but I imagine it will be quite a somber and touching one given where we left off last week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 21, 2017, 08:31:27 PM
Hoping RxL can turn it around. It's been really good so far and has a lot of potential. I hope sports manga aren't losing favor in Jump because I really want Shudan! to stick around.

I don't think Jump expected all or even most of the six new series to be successful. It was more a promotional thing to get people excited and speculative about Jump again, and about getting a bunch of new blood in and see what'll stick. I think that Dr. Stone being a resounding success means that it panned out pretty well.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Daikun on June 21, 2017, 09:19:05 PM
Well, this is interesting: An officially translated manga that's only available through Patreon.

Motoka Murakami has his own Patreon page where you can read Jin. $5 per month gets you the manga.

https://www.patreon.com/motokamurakami

I wonder if more mangaka will continue following this trend.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 21, 2017, 11:13:01 PM
Read the most recent chapter of KnY. I think this arc might have topped Spider Mountain.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 21, 2017, 11:21:54 PM
This arc already topped the Spider Mountain arc when we realised that a demon turned into a train....like, an entire fucking train that people were riding in.

Also, this chapter....them feels, man....
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 21, 2017, 11:23:50 PM
I'm a sucker for train arcs like this in general, but this one is too good. The rankings appear to be reflecting it, too. I'm so glad this series is taking off now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 21, 2017, 11:48:18 PM
You know what I noticed about this series? In the hands of a lesser writer, it could have easily become one of those "dark and edgy" hyper-violent revenge against [insert any enemy type here] stories. You know the kind of tripe that I'm talking about.

I mean think about it: you have a main character who's family was brutally slaughtered, a land terrorized by demons where innocent people die on a daily basis, tons of violent acts occurring between heroes and villains, and as this latest chapter has shown, this series isn't afraid to kill off characters who seem to be set up to be important pieces of the ongoing story.

Yet it doesn't come off that way at all, despite dealing with some unquestionably dark subject matter. Instead, Gotogue writes characters like Tanjirou, a layered main character who isn't annoyingly obsessed with "killing all demons" to the point of being one-dimensional. He cares far more about protecting the only family that he has left. There is actual nuance to this character that slowly gets built upon over time. His sister Nezuko is a layered character as well, and she doesn't even have any dialogue! And Inosuke and Zenitsu are more than just sidekicks; they are bonafied comrades-in-arms, and now feel just as integral to the main story as Tanjirou and Nezuko.

There's humor too. Despite living in dark times, these characters never seem to forget that life always moves on and can genuinely enjoy the brighter moments that they experience. The heart of this entire series, and how I interpret it's main theme, is that life continues to move on, with both joy and tragedy, and the main heroes of this story are those who can accept living with both and still make the most out of their lives, whereas the villains are all people who have rejected their humanity and bonds with others in pursuit of eternal life, yet they are ironically living the most miserable existence of all, which is why Tanjirou seems to pity them more than blindly despising them.

And even when loss is suffered, like in the most recent chapter, we see that the dying can happily leave the world of the living without regret for the path that he chose, and those that he protected and left behind, while inevitably sad and heartbroken, will only become stronger people with even deeper bonds due to this painful experience.

In short, this series doesn't shy away from being dark, yet it is most certainly NOT a dark story. It's one of the most hopeful and inspiring manga that I've read in a while. At least, that's personally what I get out of it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 22, 2017, 12:22:43 AM
I do like the tone Gotouge goes with. Though it can be dark or light depending on the chapter, it never goes overbearing in one direction or the other. There's no edgelord darkness, though things can get really brutal, and there's no obnoxious humor (and typical anime/shonen humor), though characters are free to make jokes.

This has what those series like Reborn during the Silver Age lacked. It has an author who cares about the story and how the characters would organically live and grow in it. It has a spark to it that the Golden Age series all had. KnY is written and drawn by someone who enjoys storytelling and carefully avoids relying on easy cliches to push the plot forward. The Silver Age really was full of series like that.

Like MHA, I think KnY is a series that could have run alongside YYH, Dragon Ball, and JoJo, and would have gathered the same amount of popularity back in the day.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 22, 2017, 11:04:54 AM
Berserk is back on hiatus until the winter. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-06-22/berserk-manga-goes-back-on-hiatus-until-winter/.117831)

No real surprise there.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 22, 2017, 03:15:02 PM
So, MHA is still my second or third favorite currently running Jump series (I kind of consider it to be tied with TPN at this point), with OP being at the top and KnY being just barely behind (and arguably may eventually match or even usurp one or more of my current top three).

That said, I've gotta be honest and say that I'm really not feeling this current arc too much. Unlike Stain or All For One, the head of the Yakuza (and just the Yakuza in general) don't really come off as intimidating or menacing as Horikoshi wants them to. Even so, it could still work out better if I were more invested in the actual raid attempt by the heroes, but something hasn't been clicking for me so far, and I think that it has to do with the perspective of this arc. The Hideout Raid and All For One arcs worked for me because despite involving teachers and pro heroes, it was presented to us from the perspective of the students, who we could more easily relate to and identify with. This arc feels like it's really more from the perspective of the pros, with Deku and the others only coming off as supplementary characters so far, which makes sense in terms of the context, but feels undeniably less interesting from a narrative standpoint.

It's fine, to be clear. I don't exactly dislike this arc, but it just lacks that certain punch that most of MHA has had for me since the Field Training arc.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 22, 2017, 07:08:13 PM
I can see where you're coming from, but only partially agree.

My problem with the arc is that I know this is leading to something bigger due to the insane amount of hints dropped that I feel like the current raid is holding back those events from happening. I want to see Midoriya and Mirio atone for their mistake. I want to see what Shigaraki is up to. I want to see what Gran Torino is doing. I want to know what Night Eye's vision actually was. I want to see if All Might is really in danger. I want to see Overhaul get put in the ground and I want to see Eri saved. The problem is that Horikoshi's pacing (as good as it is) is still not quick enough for me to sit still through watching jobbers like Overhaul's men get bulldozed week after week.

I guess what I'm saying is that this arc has had a lot of set up and character growth, but I want to get to the meat of it already. It's the longest arc in the series so far, and we should be near the end, but it doesn't feel like it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 23, 2017, 08:27:31 PM
Silver Spoon is resuming on July 5th. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-06-23/hiromu-arakawa-silver-spoon-manga-returns-on-july-5/.117900)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on June 23, 2017, 10:14:52 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 23, 2017, 08:27:31 PM
Silver Spoon is resuming on July 5th. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-06-23/hiromu-arakawa-silver-spoon-manga-returns-on-july-5/.117900)
YES!  :shakeshakeshake:

I suspect that this may be the final batch of chapters for Silver Spoon, given that most of the major plot threads were tied up prior to the last hiatus.  In any case, I'll be looking forward to seeing what Arakawa has in store for readers this time around.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 27, 2017, 04:06:43 PM
For Jump's 50th anniversary, Shueisha is reprinting two old issues. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2017-06-27/shonen-jump-celebrates-50th-anniversary-by-reprinting-landmark-issues/.118079)

They include the first issue which has:

QuoteKujira Daigo by Sachio Umemoto
Oobakare Apache by Fujio Akatsuka
Jigoku Ken by Yoshiteru Takano
Chichi no Tamashii by Hiroshi Kaizuka
Harenchi Gakuen by Go Nagai
Doru Yarou by Mikiya Mochizuki
Flash Gordon by Dan Barry
Te by Kazuo Umezu

And a second issue from the Golden Age of Jump. This has a lot more series:

QuoteSlam Dunk by Takehiko Inoue (in color)
Shadow Lady by Masakazu Katsura
Mind Assassin by Hajime Kazu
Dragon Ball by Akira Toriyama
Midori no Makibao by Tsunomaru
Tottemo! Luckyman by Hiroshi Gamou
Rurouni Kenshin by Nobuhiro Watsuki
Bonbonza Kakou Kouen Gekibu by Yutaka Takahashi
Nanpo U Den by Haruto Umezawa
Jigoku Sensei Nube by Sho Makura and Takeshi Okano
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure by Hirohiko Araki
Captain Tsubasa: World Youth by Youichi Takahashi
Kochira Katsushika-ku Kamearikouen-mae Hashutsujo by Osamu Akimoto
Shin Jungle no Ouja Taachan by Masaya Tokuhiro
Dragon Quest: Dai no Daibouken by Riku Sanjou, Kouji Inada and Yuji Horii
Kagemusha Tokugawa Ieyasu by Tetsuo Hara and Keiichirou Ryou
Ninku SECOND STAGE by Koji Kiriyama
RASH!! by Tsukasa Hojo
Rokudenashi Blues by Masanori Morita
Hareluya II BOY by Haruto Umezawa
Bakudan! by Akira Miyashita
Osama Haroba: Hattari Teikoku no Gyakush? by Kokichi Naniwa

There will be a third one focusing on pivotal moments like Raoh against Kenshiro. No idea what that full listing is yet. There's also a fourth one, but there's no hint as to what it is. I'm going to guess it will be the full color final chapters collected in one place.

Here's hoping Viz decides to license these if only for bonus issue material for their Jump. That's a lot of cool stuff.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 27, 2017, 04:54:51 PM
Flash Gordon had a reprint published by Weekly Shonen Jump?  :huh:

Well, you learn something new every day. ;)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 27, 2017, 05:44:23 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 27, 2017, 04:54:51 PM
Flash Gordon had a reprint published by Weekly Shonen Jump?  :huh:

Well, you learn something new every day. ;)
They did it a few times at the beginning. They also published Mandrake the Magician and Secret Agent Corrigan. It makes series like Cobra, Cat's Eye, and City Hunter feel like they fit in with roots of the magazine more than originally thought.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 27, 2017, 11:18:02 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #31 (June 29th, 2017):
Yuna of Yuragi Manor (Cover, Lead CP)
1. One Piece
2. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma (CP)
Hunter x Hunter (Not Ranked)
3. My Hero Academia
The Promised Neverland (CP)
4. Hinomaru Zumou
5. Haikyu!!
Dr. Stone (CP)
Cross Account (Not Ranked)
Omoiyo Todoke ~Butsuri-teki Niwa Todokanai~ (One Shot)
6. Gintama
Shudan! (Not Ranked)
7. Spring Weapon No. 1
8. Robot x Laserbeam
9. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
10. We Never Learn
11. Hungry Marie
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~

No surprises here. Robot gets a bit of a bump, but WNL falls as a consequence which probably doesn't matter since its getting a color page next week. At this point it looks like Hungry Marie is definitely on the way out. Kimetsu and MHA are doing great (which is okay by me) and everything else looks about the same as usual. Next week, Gintama gets the cover, and Saiki, WNL, and Boruto, are getting color pages. Gintama has to be nearing the end at this point, but I don't read it so I wouldn't know. That's just what I hear.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 05, 2017, 04:40:44 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #32 (July 6th, 2017):
Gintama (Cover, Lead CP)
1. One Piece
2. My Hero Academia
My Hero Academia Smash!! (Special Chapter)
The Disastrous Life of Saiki K. (CP)
3. Haikyu!!
4. Black Clover
5. Hinomaru Zumou
6. The Promised Neverland
Boruto (CP)
7. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
We Never Learn (CP)
Shudan! (Not Ranked)
8. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
Cross Account (Not Ranked)
9. Dr. Stone
10. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
Hunter x Hunter (Not Ranked)
11. Spring Weapon No.01
12. Robot x Laserbeam
13. Hungry Marie
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~


No real surprises again. It's still not looking good for Robot and Marie, though Robot is getting a color page next week (as is Promised Neverland) so who knows. Also, One Piece gets the cover.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 05, 2017, 05:20:51 PM
I'm honestly kind of surprised that RXL is getting shunned or ignored by Japanese readers. I was assuming that Tadatoshi would already have a built in fan base from KnB (which isn't even that old), and that his quick pacing for the beginning material would help attract new readers. I suppose people just don't care much about a manga about golf, though.

Despite my issues with the last third or so of KnB, I'm actually kind of rooting for Tadatoshi to pull through since I see some strong potential in his current work.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 11, 2017, 11:03:39 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #33 (July 13th, 2017):
One Piece (Cover, Lead CP)
Oda-san to no Omoide Manga by Shimabu (20th Anniversary One Piece Manga by Mitsutoshi Shimabukuro (Toriko))
1. My Hero Academia
The Promised Neverland (CP)
2. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma
3. Dr. Stone
4. Gintama
5. Black Clover
Robot x Laserbeam (CP)
6. Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction
Cross Account (Not Ranked)
7. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K
8. Haikyuu!!
9. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
Shudan! (Not Ranked)
10. We Never Learn
11. Hinomaru Zumou
12. Spring Weapon No. 1
Hunter x Hunter (Not Ranked)
13. Hungry Marie


Black Clover anime starts in October and is getting a color page next week. For the anime Asta will be played by Gakuto Kajiwara (Newcomer VA)
and Nobunaga Shimazaki will be Yuno. MHA gets the cover next week for its 3rd anniversary and both Kimetsu no Yaiba and Shudan are getting color pages. Shudan is also getting bonus pages. Not much to say ranking wise except that Hungry Marie is certainly next on the chopping block.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 11, 2017, 08:06:27 PM
These recent chapters centered around Kirishima have been great. Really highlighting why he is one of my favorite characters. I almost forgot he was one of the main characters of this arc since there are so many right now. Eager to see how he relates to Fat Gum once the fight continues.

Also just realized that the villain in Kirishima's flashback is the same one from way back in chapter 59. He has the same cloak and radio. That's another hint that whoever this villain is, Horikoshi hasn't forgotten him.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 18, 2017, 11:17:38 AM
Silver Spoon is, uh, back on hiatus after 3 chapters. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-07-18/silver-spoon-manga-goes-back-on-hiatus-after-3-chapters/.118973)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on July 18, 2017, 03:04:14 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 18, 2017, 11:17:38 AM
Silver Spoon is, uh, back on hiatus after 3 chapters. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-07-18/silver-spoon-manga-goes-back-on-hiatus-after-3-chapters/.118973)
Arakawa's last few release batches of Silver Spoon have all only been 3 chapters, so this isn't too much of a surprise.  Based on what has happened during the past few chapters, it seems like the series might last a bit longer than initially expected, but the series itself is still clearly nearing the end.  At this point, I'm fine with Arakawa taking her time with the series. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 18, 2017, 11:38:48 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #34 (July 20th, 2017):
One Piece, Saint Seiya, Captain Tsubasa, Otoko Ippiki Gaki Daisho (Cover)
My Hero Academia (Lead CP)
1. The Promised Neverland
2. One Piece
Kimetsu no Yaiba: Blade of Demon Destruction (CP)
3. Dr. Stone
4. Robot x Laserbeam
Shudan! (CP)
Hunter x Hunter (Not Ranked)
5. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
Black Clover (CP)
6. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
7. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
8. We Never Learn
9. Haikyu!!
10. Hinomaru Zumou
Cross Account (Not Ranked)
11. Spring Weapon No.01
12. Gintama
13. Hungry Marie
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~


That's a weird set of ratings this week. But Promised Neverland at #1 sure was unexpected. Next week Haikyu gets the lead color, and Hinomaru Zumou and Food Wars get color pages. Apparently this being the 50th anniversary means this issue and the next are crossover covers featuring iconic Jump characters. Other announcements include the second season of the Saiki anime is starting early 2018 and Junichi Suwabe will be the VA for Yami in Black Clover. Also, the BC popularity poll had near 10,000 votes.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on July 21, 2017, 12:27:48 AM
I'm very late on commenting on this, but I'm surprised to see RxL so high in the ToC.  We'll have to see in the coming weeks, but I really hope that the series is gaining traction with readers.  Shudan getting a color page this week was also a hopeful sign of its success.  Next issue should be its first ranking, so it will be interesting to see how it does.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on July 21, 2017, 02:22:19 PM
RxL seems to be picking up steam. The sales of the first volume were quite good, so I think it'll be sticking around. And Shudan! getting a color page is a good sign. Crossing my fingers it won't go the way of Ole Golazo.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 25, 2017, 11:23:17 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #35 (July 27th, 2017):
Haikyu!!, Kinnikuman, Dr. Slump, Kochikame (Cover)
Haikyu!! (Lead CP)
1. Black Clover
2. My Hero Academia
My Hero Academia Smash!! (Special Chapter)
3. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
4. Dr. Stone
Hunter x Hunter (Not Ranked)
Utsuro Toki no Naka de (One Shot)
Hinomaru Zumou (CP)
5. We Never Learn
6. Gintama
Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma (CP)
7. The Promised Neverland
Cross Account (Not Ranked)
8. Spring Weapon No.01
9. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
10. Shudan!
11. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
12. Robot x Laserbeam
13. Hungry Marie
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~


Next week One Piece returns with the lead color, and Black Clover, Promised Neverland, and Dr. Stone, are all getting color pages. That's not a good first ranking for Shudan, though it did not instantly plummet to the bottom at least. I'm still torn on how well Robot is actually doing, but it does look like Dr. Stone and WNL are here to stay at this rate. I've heard that Hinomaru is reaching the end point soon, but who knows when that will be. If it does it will certainly save a second series from getting axed along with Hungry Marie. Because at this point I really don't see a clear second choice for getting cut.

It might just be me, but I keep hoping for word of World Trigger's return. At least it would signal that Ashihara is okay.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on July 26, 2017, 01:43:27 AM
From I understand, the presumed final match of Hinomaru has concluded, so the series probably end in a few weeks.  That's a pretty rough first ranking for Shudan, but there's still a chance for it to recover.  Considering that it got a color page last week, I suspect that Jump wants to keep it around for a bit before they consider canning it.  It seems like last week's RxL placement may have just been a fluke, but I wouldn't be surprised if it sticks around since the first volume sold pretty well. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 26, 2017, 02:53:17 PM
This week's chapter of KnY was one of the funniest Shonen Jump chapters that I've read in a while. I really love how serious and dramatic this series can be yet still be so humorous and charming when it wants to. Something about the raw crude and sloppy nature of the art made some of the gags work extra effectively, here, particularly in seeing the main trio dressed up as young prostitutes in training.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 26, 2017, 04:13:31 PM
The combination of Tanjiro, Zenitsu, and Inosuke, always leads to the best comedy in the series. It also helps that the art style is just simultaneously sketchy and detailed enough to go between serious and comedic at the drop of a hat.

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Can't wait for the official release over here, and the eventual anime.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 02, 2017, 07:33:18 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #36/#37 (August 3rd, 2017):
WSJ Cast (Cover)
One Piece (Lead CP)
1. The Promised Neverland
2. My Hero Academia
3. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
4. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
5. Haikyu!!
Dr. Stone (CP)
6. We Never Learn
7. Hinomaru Zumou
Seishounen Yuugai Kankyou Kiseihou (CP, One Shot)
8. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
9. Robot x Laserbeam
Hunter x Hunter (Not Ranked)
Tensei-ki -Hakusai- (One Shot)
Black Clover (CP)
10. Shudan!
11. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
12. Spring Weapon No.01
13. Gintama
14. Cross Account
15. Hungry Marie
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~


First ranking for Cross Account is awful. It only outranked Hungry Marie, which is certain to be canceled soon enough. Pretty happy with the top 3 all the way around. As far as I'm concerned, they're the three best series running in Jump at this moment. Next week Promised Neverland gets the cover, and Boruto, Haikyu and We Never Learn get color pages. Good rankings all the way around this week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 03, 2017, 11:56:17 AM
The Hokkaido arc of Rurouni Kenshin starts on September 4th. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-08-03/rurouni-kenshin-hokkaido-arc-manga-launches-on-september-4/.119626)

I hope the delay was worth it! Though I have to say I'm still really interested in this after the Ashitaro two part one-shot.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 15, 2017, 10:44:07 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #38 (August 15th, 2017):
The Promised Neverland (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Dr. Stone
2. One Piece
Haikyu!! (CP)
3. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
4. My Hero Academia
5. Robot x Laserbeam
6. Black Clover
Boruto (CP)
7. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
We Never Learn (CP)
8. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
9. Gintama
10. Hunter x Hunter
11. Hinomaru Zumou
12. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
13. Shudan!
14. Spring Weapon No.01
15. Cross Account
16. Hungry Marie
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~


First #1 for Dr. Stone. Gotta say, I'm pretty surprised. Everything else is pretty much where you'd expect. No real surprises. Food Wars gets the cover next week and both Yuna and Robot are getting color pages. Next round of series has to be soon, right? Feels like it's been a while.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on August 15, 2017, 10:56:01 PM
I'm glad to see RxL recover from being near death's door.  Dr. Stone at the very top is a surprise, but I guess it just shows how strong its reception has been in Japan.  Everything else is as you'd expect, though I hope Shudan can somehow boost itself in the coming weeks.  I'm sure we'll be seeing the next round of Jump Starts soon, especially since Hinomaru should be ending any week now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 16, 2017, 05:06:40 PM
If Hinomaru is ending then it will probably pair with Hungry Marie for series closing out this round. Depends on what is coming up. It's rare to have rounds with only one new series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 21, 2017, 11:42:30 AM
So, now that we're officially passed the Forest Survival arc of The Promised Neverland, I came say that I'm definitely all in for this series until the end, but much like Death Note it's going to be really hard for it to top it's first arc. The Grace Field Escape arc is so tightly written and gets genuinely intense as it progresses. This most recent arc was more about world-building and expanding the lore of the series, but it's going to be tough to ever recapture that same level of tension and unpredictability that was present in Grace Field with an antagonist as good as Isabella. That's not to say that anything after that has been weak by any means, but rather it's just a byproduct of how strong that first arc truly is. I'd actually say it's up there in at least my top 20 favorite WSJ arcs of all time.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 22, 2017, 12:43:51 PM
I'm not sure what sort of series it's going to turn into at this point, but I don't think you'll get another arc quite like the first again simply because it was relying on so many mysteries we couldn't know to work.

But it still remains an intriguing read every week. No idea where the story is going, but since there's been no quality dip I can hope for the best here.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 22, 2017, 10:21:15 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #39 (August 22nd, 2017):
Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Dr. Stone
2. One Piece
3. Black Clover
4. My Hero Academia
5. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
Robot x Laserbeam (CP)
6. The Promised Neverland
7. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
Yuna of Yuragi Manor (CP)
8. Haikyu!!
9. We Never Learn
Aharen-san wa Hakarenai (Special Chapter)
Binbou Choujin Kanenashi-kun (Special Chapter)
10. Hunter x Hunter
11. Hinomaru Zumou
12. Gintama
13. Cross Account
14. Spring Weapon No.01
15. Shudan!
16. Hungry Marie
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~

Bit of an odd assortment this week. That's not a good ranking for Shudan, and that's its lowest rank so far. Hungry Marie is definitely out next round, but Cross Account and Shudan better hope Zumou is ending or they'll be cut with it. Next week Dr. Stone gets the cover (apparently the recent village chapters have been huge hits) and Isobe and Promised Neverland are getting color pages. It won't be too much longer until the next round, though. Really hoping we get news on World Trigger's return soon.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 25, 2017, 10:06:39 PM
Promised Neverland is still only a year old and there's no telling where it'll go. The forest arc felt more like a transitional piece to expand the lore and present possibilities of what could happen later. I'm really keen to see where they'll take it, and while it'll be hard for it to replicate what Grace Field did in terms of how the mystery and game of wits was played, I'm confident that the best of the series is yet to come.

Really glad Dr. Stone is hitting it's stride in the rankings. The village stuff has been great so far, though I'm hoping we'll see what's going on with Taiju and Yuzuhira soon. Really worried about Shudan!. Crossing my fingers it can bounce back up the rankings and find its audience soon.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 28, 2017, 12:27:52 PM
Horikoshi is something else when it comes to characterization. This arc has been great ever since we saw what Kirishima was made of. I'm really eager to see where this is all heading now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 28, 2017, 04:13:11 PM
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FINALLY!  :swoon:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 28, 2017, 04:21:39 PM
My Katana is ready....as is my "Wakizashi" (if you catch my drift). :humhumhum:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 28, 2017, 05:28:54 PM
Really eager to see what he can do here. The two part one-shot was great.

I'm actually grateful that he delayed it so long if it meant he could have it fleshed out. He's been trying to get this straight since the original manga was running so I hope this is the chance he needs.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 30, 2017, 05:24:27 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #40 (August 29th, 2017):
Dr. Stone (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Robot x Laserbeam
2. One Piece
3. Hinomaru Zumou
4. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
The Promised Neverland (CP)
5. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
6. We Never Learn
Jekyll no Tsukaima (CP, GFC Entry #1)
7. Black Clover
8. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
9. Haikyu!!
10. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
11. Hunter x Hunter
12. My Hero Academia
13. Gintama
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~ (CP)
14. Shudan!
15. Spring Weapon No.01
16. Cross Account
17. Hungry Marie


I have no idea what in the world happened in this ToC other than I think Jump is trying to mix it up. It really is jarring. But anyway, Hinomaru is getting a season 2 and is continuing (which is very surprising) and HxH is going back on hiatus. Robot x Laserbeam is getting the cover next week and both Hinomaru and Boruto are getting color pages. Still no word on when the next round of series is.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 30, 2017, 06:27:12 PM
Really glad to see RXL gaining some serious momentum in the ratings. Being ranked at the top spot was beyond my expectations, but it looks like Tadatoshi is safe for now, after all.

But that has to be the lowest rank that I've seen for MHA. Not that it even puts a dent in its overall popularity, but I suppose it speaks more to how strong some of the other chapters of less popular Jump manga were this week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on August 30, 2017, 07:58:47 PM
I was flabbergasted when I saw this ToC last night.  I'm happy to see RxL make such an astounding recovery.  Hopefully, this is a good sign of its future success.  I'm surprised that Hinomaru Sumo is not ending, but I guess everyone was wrong.  :sweat:  But hey, I'm not complaining since this has revitalized my hope for an eventual Hinomaru anime!  HxH going back on hiatus is nothing out of the ordinary since 10 chapters is all that's needed for Shueisha to print a new volume, and Togashi probably doesn't want to burn himself out.  In terms of new series, we probably won't be seeing any until the GFC one-shots are done in early October.  At the very least, Hungry Marie and Cross Account will likely get axed when the next round starts (and good riddance to the latter).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 30, 2017, 09:50:14 PM
Hungry Marie and Cross Account will certainly be the next cuts.

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 30, 2017, 06:27:12 PMBut that has to be the lowest rank that I've seen for MHA. Not that it even puts a dent in its overall popularity, but I suppose it speaks more to how strong some of the other chapters of less popular Jump manga were this week.
This was for the first part of the 2 part Red Riot chapters. That one was like 13 pages and, honestly, wasn't as good as the chapter following it. I can understand it not getting a lot of votes.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 31, 2017, 12:26:23 PM
Promised Neverland currently has a million and a half copies in print. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2017-08-31/the-promised-neverland-manga-has-1.5-million-copies-in-print/.120776)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 01, 2017, 09:34:27 AM
I've gotta say, this whole Red Lights District arc may be my favorite One yet from KnY. On top of brothels being a uniquely interesting setting for a story in a Shonen Jump manga, it has a really intriguing mystery element to it as well as some genuine suspense and tension at certain points, all while still remembering all of the humor that can be found in this situation (and not the over-used, groan-worthy "pervert" gags that one would expect, either, thankfully).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 01, 2017, 10:46:07 AM
I'm really glad to see RxL bounce back, especially since its been so good recently. Those are great sales for The Promised Neverland, which is really exciting! It's also cool to see Hinomaru Zumo continuing after all, though that means that things will be tight when it comes time to axe series. Just hoping that Shudan! survives long enough to find its audience like RxL did.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 01, 2017, 05:17:51 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 01, 2017, 09:34:27 AM
I've gotta say, this whole Red Lights District arc may be my favorite One yet from KnY. On top of brothels being a uniquely interesting setting for a story in a Shonen Jump manga, it has a really intriguing mystery element to it as well as some genuine suspense and tension at certain points, all while still remembering all of the humor that can be found in this situation (and not the over-used, groan-worthy "pervert" gags that one would expect, either, thankfully).
Gotouge has hit a stride. Since the Drum House its been nothing but uphill. It was also cool to get an idea of where they are in the scale of their profession, although as has been stated, power levels aren't hard and fast as otherwise they would have died during the Spider Mountain arc. It also benefits that I can't really tell where its going.

Oh yeah, and I still really like the main three (four) a good deal. They always instantly attract my attention when on the page.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on September 04, 2017, 10:51:46 PM
I finally caught up again with Robot x Laserbeam.  Initially, I was going to complain about how the course par for the current match makes no sense, but then I realized that Viz actually mistranslated the condition that Robo needs to fulfill to participate in the training camp (he needs to score "in the 70s" not "score a 70" like they translated).  This meant that when Tomoya said Robo needs to get at least a "+7" in the match, that would be a score of 79, meaning that this was a standard par 72 course and not an executive course.  It kind of bothers me that Viz made such an error and never corrected it, but to be fair, it's not immediately apparent if you aren't familiar with golf scoring.  In any case, this match has been great overall and it definitely seems to have helped the series gain some traction which is nice to see.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 05, 2017, 09:57:45 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #40 (August 29th, 2017):
Robot x Laserbeam (Cover, Lead CP)
1. The Promised Neverland
2. Dr. Stone
3. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
Hinomaru Zumou (CP, Part 2 Start)
4. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
5. We Never Learn
6. Black Clover
Joreishi Rentarou no Yakusoku (CP, GFC Entry #2)
7. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
8. My Hero Academia
9. Gintama
10. Haikyu!!
11. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
12. Spring Weapon No.01
13. Hungry Marie
14. Cross Account
15. Shudan!
Boruto (CP)
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~

This is another odd ToC. But at least MHA is higher and has a color page next week. Next week One Piece gets the cover and Kochikame gets a special chapter. I do wonder why Haikyu has been so low recently. And Shudan being last is really not a good sign for it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 09, 2017, 12:07:47 AM
Glad to see Promised Neverland and Dr Stone so high, but Shudan!...:( Really hoping it finds it's audience soon because at this rate it won't last much longer.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 11, 2017, 11:16:34 AM
That last chapter of MHA was something else. Here's hoping Midoriya can close the gap!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 13, 2017, 07:00:06 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #42 (September 12th, 2017):
One Piece (Cover, Lead CP)
1. The Promised Neverland
2. Dr. Stone
3. Robot x Laserbeam
4. Black Clover
Kochikame (CP, Special Chapter)
5. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
6. We Never Learn
Raven Burai (CP, GFC Entry #3)
7. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
My Hero Academia (CP)
8. Hinomaru Zumou
9. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
10. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
11. Spring Weapon No.01
12. Haikyu!!
13. Gintama
14. Shudan!
15. Hungry Marie
16. Cross Account
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~


Holy criminy, why is Haikyu so low? It's so weird seeing established favorites so low. Anyway, now Cross Account is last so I have no idea what is going on here. Next week Food Wars gets the cover and Saiki and We Never Learn get color pages.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on September 13, 2017, 08:07:31 PM
I looks like Haikyu is starting to hop around in the ToC like Food Wars does.  ???  Overall, this is a strong ToC aside from that.  Looking at the raw for last week's Hungry Marie, it seems like it may be wrapping up soon.  Nothing is going to be cancelled for at least 2 more weeks, but it's going to be interesting to see what happens when the next round of series start.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 14, 2017, 03:50:52 PM
Damn, some series were on fire this week! One Piece, KnY, and RXL are easily my top three from the current issue of Jump.

One Piece ending with Luffy staying behind is somewhat reminiscent of when he did that back in Alabasta to stall Crocodile and buy his crew some time to escape, but over here it really felt like he wanted to settle a score, and having him take the fight into the mirror world and then smash the closest exit to bits so that nobody could come in or out to interrupt the fight is one of the most bad-ass things that he's done in a while. Add to that the fact that on top of his heroic sacrifice, we get the big reveal that Pedro is yet another link to Gold Roger from the past, and you have one of the most action-packed and exciting chapters of One Piece this year, and from one of its best arcs in years. Oda is clearly back in the swing of his A-game.

Kimetsu no Yaiba might not have had as pivotal of a chapter, but Gotogue clearly knows how to keep things engaging for readers as Tanjiro has to stall an opponent that could easily kill him before a Pillar (can't remember his name right now) arrives. And to keep things interesting, he's switching from the Water style that he was trained in for a while to the Flame style that he barely understands but feels is a better fit for him, which makes the fight play out a lot more predictably than his opponent was prepared for. It's a convincing way to deal with a large power gap without feeling absurd or too convenient.

And in RXL we got a surprisingly heartfelt chapter with everyone reacting to the aftermath of the match between the academies, with Robot making some serious development as he finally realizes his passion for Golf in a surprisingly emotional moment for his character.

The rest of the chapters from the ususal frontrunners wer all pretty good as well, but these three stole the show for me this week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 15, 2017, 04:29:44 PM
It looks like Hungry Marie is winding down and is having volume 3 and 4 release on the same day. I think it's safe to say we know at least one of the series being canceled.

I think it's possible with HxH going back on hiatus that there might only be one cancellation this round. If not, I'm going to guess it's Cross Account.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 19, 2017, 11:29:04 PM
Few bits of news.

My Hero Academia Smash is ending with volume 5 (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-09-19/my-hero-academia-smash-spinoff-manga-to-end-with-5th-volume-in-november/.121572), Urasawa's new series starts in October (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-09-19/20th-century-boys-monster-naoki-urasawa-launches-new-series-in-october/.121583), and Magi ends in 4 chapters (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-09-19/shinobu-ohtaka-magi-manga-ends-in-4-chapters/.121584).

Lot of stuff going on!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 20, 2017, 12:56:28 AM
I wonder if Viz'll ever pick up MHA Smash? MHA is big right now and they've licensed the Naruto gag mangas in the past, so I don't see why they shouldn't.

I haven't followed Magi in a while since I was waiting for it to end so I could read the entire final arc in one go, so I'm excited to do that pretty soon since I've only heard good things about how it's been.

I'm excited for Urasawa's new series, but this news really makes me wonder when Billy Bat will finally get licensed? C'mon Kodansha USA!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 20, 2017, 07:18:00 PM
The new banner for Jump Festa was revealed:

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Notable new additions include Yuna, Kimetsu no Yaiba, and Promised Neverland in with the rest of the series. I wonder if it could be hinting at OVAs for any of them like Black Clover had last year. Seems likely that one of those three will likely get a series sometime in the near future.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 22, 2017, 12:54:47 PM
There was a big delay in getting the ToC this week. Here it is:

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #43 (September 19th, 2017):
Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma (Cover, Lead CP)
1. One Piece
2. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
3. The Promised Neverland
4. Black Clover
We Never Learn (CP)
5. Dr. Stone
6. Haikyu!
Chou Kasoku Ningen Leo (CP, GFC Entry #4)
7. Spring Weapon No.01
The Disastrous Life of Saiki K. (CP)
Ifu! Dodo-kun (One Shot)
8. Robot x Laserbeam
9. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
10. Hinomaru Zumou
11. Gintama
12. Shudan!
13. Hungry Marie
14. Cross Account
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~

MHA is absent this week. I hope Horikoshi is doing alright. He's had two off chapters this arc and some of the ones he put out were really short. I'm hoping he can wrap it up soon so he can get back to less intense fare. Last thing we want is another Ashihara situation. The list is more or less back to normal, though. There's nothing surprising here at all. Congrats to KnY. Here's hoping an anime announcement comes soon. I do think Cross Account will be one of the cancellations, however. It's been swapping the last rank with Hungry Marie for some time now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 27, 2017, 03:25:44 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #44 (September 26th, 2017):
Black Clover (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
2. One Piece
3. Dr. Stone
4. The Promised Neverland
5. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
6. We Never Learn
7. Robot x Laserbeam
Mahou Shonen X (CP, GFC Entry #5)
8. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
Yuna of Yuragi Manor (CP)
9. My Hero Academia
10. Hinomaru Zumou
Haikyu!! (CP)
11. Gintama
12. Spring Weapon No.01
13. Shudan!
14. Cross Account
15. Hungry Marie
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~


Three new series are starting beginning next week and getting the next three covers. This means Hungry Marie and Cross Account are certainly done, with the possibility of Shudan as well even though the HxH/World Trigger slot is still empty. Hinomaru, We Never Learn, and Dr. Stone are getting color pages in the next issue. As for MHA, I'm going to assume the shorter chapters this arc were not the best idea. It makes readers to frustrated in keeping up with what is coming next. It'll be a better read in volume form. Either way, the arc is nearly done.

Unrelated, but I hope Viz announces when volume 1 of KnY will be coming out. I'll be jumping on that day one.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 04, 2017, 01:59:09 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #45 (October 4th, 2017):
Tomatoypoo no Lycopene (Cover, Lead CP, New Series by Kouji Ohiishi)
1. Haikyu!!
2. One Piece
Dr. Stone (CP)
3. Black Clover
4. My Hero Academia
Hinomaru Zumou (CP)
5. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
6. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma
We Never Learn (CP)
7. The Promised Neverland
8. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
9. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
10. Gintama
11. Spring Weapon No.01
12. Robot x Laserbeam
13. Shudan!
14. Cross Account
15. Hungry Marie
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~


Rankings seem to be more or less back to normal this week. Next week Saiki gets the cover. Other than that, there isn't much to talk about. We still have to wait until next week to see the other new series and to see what is going to be cut.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on October 05, 2017, 12:22:48 PM
Pretty standard ToC, though I am sad seeing RxL back near the bottom.  Hungry Marie has already been confirmed to be ending with volume 4, so it's probably going to end in 2 or 3 weeks at most.  Looking at the raws for the recent Shudan and Cross Account chapters, both of them look to be heading towards a conclusion as well, so I guess we have our 3 cancellations right there.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 05, 2017, 01:49:43 PM
That was one crazy chapter of KnY. It looks like Tanjiro's about to go off.

Really hope there's an anime announcement for this soon. It really deserves one.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 05, 2017, 02:11:06 PM
This is easily the best arc of the series, and currently my second favorite ongoing WSJ arc at the moment.

I love how Tanjiro's eyes are completely blood-shot to display his rage at the moment, which also got me to realize how rare it is to see him so furious in this series, even towards an enemy.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 08, 2017, 08:25:58 PM
Shonen Sunday continues to push itself. They've announced a new series by the writer of Project ARMS (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-10-08/project-arms-writer-launches-new-manga-this-winter/.122449), and one by the creator of Claymore (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-10-08/claymore-norihiro-yagi-launches-new-manga-this-winter/.122431) as well. Gotta hand it to them, they're really pushing for new series.

Preview of the first series:

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(https://i.imgur.com/GShCaFR.jpg)
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Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on October 08, 2017, 10:25:19 PM
With Magi now over and Zettai Karen Children on its way out, Sunday was going to be sparse on action series, so I guess this is their solution to the issue.  I'm really surprised that Sunday managed to nab Norihiro Yagi.  He had done a one-shot in WSJ only earlier this year, so most were expecting his next work to be in Jump SQ (like usual) or WSJ.  I guess he either had a falling out with with Shueisha, or Shogakukan gave him a very nice offer.  I haven't read anything by Kyoichi Nanatsuki, but I've heard good things about Project ARMS and Area D, so it will be interesting to see what his next series is like.  Hopefully, this will help Sunday have a bright future.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 11, 2017, 10:55:46 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #46 (October 11th, 2017):
The Disastrous Life of Saiki K (Cover, Lead CP, Live-Action Movie Premiere)
1. Black Clover
2. The Promised Neverland
3. Dr. Stone
4. Haikyu!!
Lycopene the Tomatoy Poodle (CP)
5. My Hero Academia
6. Hinomaru Zumou
7. Yuna of Yuragi Manor
8. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
Boruto (CP)
9. We Never Learn
Chronicle of Isobe ~Life is Hard~ (CP, END)
10. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
11. Robot x Laserbeam
12. Gintama
13. Shudan! (23p)
14. Cross Account
15. Spring Weapon No. 1
Hungry Marie (END)


So, surprising, both Isobe and Marie ended in this issue. I'm not sure what that means for the future. Next week new series Full Drive gets the cover, and Promised Neverland, Spring Weapon No. 1 (first anniversary plus an additional chapter), and KnY (popularity poll results) are getting color pages. I'm going to guess Cross Account will be the next series ending judging from how things appear to be shaking out here. All in all, not much surprising.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on October 11, 2017, 01:15:13 PM
I was a bit surprised to see Isobe ending, though I guess 4 years is strong run for a gag manga.  This makes me suspect that Lycopene is going to be pushed as the new short-form gag manga in Jump, especially since Oishi is well-liked among the editors.  I still have no idea what's up with Spring Weapon.  It doesn't sell or rank well, but Jump keeps pushing it.  It's really turning into another Samon situation...
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 11, 2017, 05:29:03 PM
Spring Weapon is definitely the new Samon. They're going to keep it around and hope it gathers popularity. It probably won't happen though, the Gintama effect it rare. Nonetheless, I expect it'll stick around just as long as Samon did.

I'm actually interested in seeing how Golem Hearts turns out as the original one shot was the best received contest winner in years.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Lord Dalek on October 11, 2017, 06:03:15 PM
So long Magi. Shame you kinda blew it at the end.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on October 11, 2017, 11:07:35 PM
I just finished reading it, and I thought that the ending was very good. 

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If I have any complaint, it's probably that Arba is still roaming free at the end.  Though, to be fair, she's basically powerless and aimless at this point, so she's not much of a threat.  Plus no one (including Hakuryu) has any reason to kill her anymore, so I'm willing to accept it.
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Overall, Magi was a fun ride and I'm glad I stuck with it until the end.  Hopefully, it doesn't take Ohtaka too long to come out with her next work.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 17, 2017, 11:36:38 PM
Baby Steps is ending in three chapters. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.cc/news/2017-10-15/baby-steps-tennis-manga-ends-in-3-chapters/.122751)

A lot of stuff ending this year.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 18, 2017, 12:13:38 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #47 (October 18th, 2017):
Full Drive (Cover, Lead CP, New Series)
1. One Piece
2. We Never Learn
The Promised Neverland (CP)
3. Black Clover
4. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K
5. Dr. Stone
6. My Hero Academia
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba (Popularity Poll Results, CP)
Tomatoy Poodle (Not Ranked)
7. Haikyu!!
8. Gintama
9. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
10. Robot x Laserbeam
11. Hinomaru Zumou
Spring Weapon Number One (1st Anniversary, CP)
12. Shudan!
13. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
14. Cross Account
Tomatoy Poodle (Not Ranked)


Next week Golem Hearts gets the cover. Gintama, Food Wars, and Full Drive get color pages. I'm not sure there's much to say about these rankings. Food Wars ranking means little since it is all over the map and has high sales, but Cross Account surviving means it will probably not make the next round. Aside from that, unless one of the new series absolutely craters in popularity, or Gintama ends, then Shudan might also get axed. And Tomatoy apparently listed last (and twice) means it is the Isobe replacement, so it's definitely not getting cut. There's one more cancellation round this year for sure so it'll be interesting to see what makes it.

As for me, I'm curious about the last new series, Golem Hearts. The one shot was well done and showed a lot of promise.

And from what I've heard, KnY's first popularity poll had only 200 less entries than Haikyu's first one. That's surprisingly good considering how much it has jumped in popularity since it started last year.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 23, 2017, 04:59:43 PM
Robot X Laserbeam is having a 3 year time jump this early in the game? I'm wondering how long he's expecting this story to be.

Here are the results for the Kimetsu no Yaiba popularity poll including vote numbers.

1st Tanjiro Kamado - 6742
2nd Zenitsu Agatsuma - 4299
3rd Nezuko - 3319
4th Giyu Tomioka - 2190
5th Inosuke Hashibira - 1977
6th Shinobu Kocho - 1813
7th Kyojuro Rengoku - 1021
8th Kanao Tuyuri - 712
9th Wani (the author) - 331
10th Makomo - 294
11th Muzan Kibutsuji
12th Mitsuri Kanroji
13th Sabito
14th Urokodaki-san
15th Shinazugawa (wind pillar)
16th Rui (the spider boy)
17th Yushiro
18th Tamayo-sama
19th Chun-taro (Zen's Sparrow?
20th Kyogai (Oni writer)

Not a bad list. Inosuke would be my #2, though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 23, 2017, 09:05:37 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 23, 2017, 04:59:43 PM
Robot X Laserbeam is having a 3 year time jump this early in the game? I'm wondering how long he's expecting this story to be.

It's definitely a bold move. I'm really not sure what to think. Honestly, it could be refreshing to see a shonen sports manga focused on the world of a professional sports league and not the standard high school sports tournament format, which has been done to death. I'm just wondering if the other members of Robo's team will join him in going pro.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 23, 2017, 10:51:54 PM
Quote from: LumRanmaYasha on October 23, 2017, 09:05:37 PMIt's definitely a bold move. I'm really not sure what to think. Honestly, it could be refreshing to see a shonen sports manga focused on the world of a professional sports league and not the standard high school sports tournament format, which has been done to death. I'm just wondering if the other members of Robo's team will join him in going pro.

What makes it more baffling is that, while the weekly rankings have been all over the place, they haven't been anywhere near bad enough for the series to be in danger of cancellation anytime soon.

The thing about the time-skip is that I'm not actually surprised that it happened in and of itself. Tadatoshi had been building up that Robo was destined to go pro for a while now. It's just surprising that it happened so soon. While I am glad that this manga is going past the inter-high level stage and moving onto the pro league, I feel as though we missed an essential part of Robo's growth leading up to that point. I'm not saying that we needed to spend another hundred plus chapters on high school, but another 20-30 chronologically covering various highlights of at least Robo's first year would have been sufficient, leading to a time-skip past the next two years. This way we could have at least got to see Robo further bonding with his teammates and making a name for himself in the Japan's Golfing scene when he's still a complete unknown. It's kind of a shame to skip over all of that.

Still, the prospect of where this series could go moving forward definitely has me intrigued.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on October 24, 2017, 03:08:17 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 23, 2017, 10:51:54 PM
What makes it more baffling is that, while the weekly rankings have been all over the place, they haven't been anywhere near bad enough for the series to be in danger of cancellation anytime soon.

The thing about the time-skip is that I'm not actually surprised that it happened in and of itself. Horikoshi had been building up that Robo was destined to go pro for a while now. It's just surprising that it happened so soon. While I am glad that this manga is going past the inter-high level stage and moving onto the pro league, I feel as though we missed an essential part of Robo's growth leading up to that point. I'm not saying that we needed to spend another hundred plus chapters on high school, but another 20-30 chronologically covering various highlights of at least Robo's first year would have been sufficient, leading to a time-skip past the next two years. This way we could have at least got to see Robo further bonding with his teammates and making a name for himself in the Japan's Golfing scene when he's still a complete unknown. It's kind of a shame to skip over all of that.

Still, the prospect of where this series could go moving forward definitely has me intrigued.
I didn't know that the creator of MHA started writing RxL in Fujimaki's place.  :>

I agree that some more time with Robo playing in high school would have been beneficial, especially since they still hadn't even competed in an actual tournament yet.  It's possible that Fujimaki decided to do this time-skip earlier than initially planned in an attempt to gain a larger audience with Jump readers, but it's a ballsy move nonetheless.  I do find it interesting that this is happening around the same time that Hinomaru Sumo has switched from being about high-school to professional sports.  While I'm sure it's not intentional, it is certainly a funny coincidence.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 25, 2017, 12:19:00 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #48 (October 25th, 2017):
Golem Hearts (Cover/Lead CP, New Series)
1. One Piece
2. Dr. Stone
Full Drive (CP)
3. Haikyu!!
4. My Hero Academia
Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma (CP)
5. Black Clover
6. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
Tomatoy Poodle (Not Ranked)
Gintama (CP, Final Popularity Poll Results)
7. The Promised Neverland
8. We Never Learn
9. Hinomaru Zumou
10. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K
11. Spring Weapon No. 1
12. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
13. Shudan!
14. Robot x Laserbeam
15. Cross Account
Tomatoy Poodle (Not Ranked)


We Never Learn is getting the cover next week. Food Wars and Golem Hearts are getting color pages and a one shot as well. Nothing is very surprising here, but I'm really wondering about Robot. These new developments are quite strange. Nonetheless, it looks like Cross Account has managed to live through this round, which is quite a shock. I really wasn't expecting it to last.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on October 25, 2017, 10:00:12 AM
Robot's ToC placement is definitely concerning given the abrupt time skip.  That being said, the volumes seem to be selling just as well as We Never Learn, so I'm not sure what will happen to it.  I guess we're not getting any more cancellations this round, but I'm pretty confident that Cross Account will meet it's end when the next wave of new series come.  I'm curious to see how Full Drive and Golem Hearts will perform in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 30, 2017, 04:39:11 PM
I would say Golem Hearts was easily the strongest of the three new series. The first chapter eases you in without over-explaining the world or rules and gets you used to the main duo really quick. There is a lot of potential for future adventures in this world. I'm anticipating more and I only hope that it will continue to improve as it goes.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on October 31, 2017, 04:13:47 PM
Lycopene was my favorite of the three Jump Starts personally, but Golem Hearts is a close second.  Heck, I even enjoyed Full Drive quite a bit as well, so this was a pretty solid round of series overall.  The big question though is whether Full Drive or Golem Hearts will be able survive with Jump having a lot of heavy-hitters right now.  I guess we'll have to wait and see....
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 01, 2017, 11:27:20 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #49 (November 1st, 2017):
We Never Learn (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
2. One Piece
3. The Promised Neverland
4. Dr. Stone
Tomatoy Lycopene (Not Ranked)
Golem Hearts (CP)
5. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
6. Haikyu!!
Full Drive (Not Ranked)
7. Hinomaru Zumo
8. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K
Grimm Reaper (CP, Oneshot)
9. Black Clover
Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma (CP)
10. Robot x Laserbeam
11. Gintama
12. Spring Weapon No. 1
13. Shudan!
14. Cross Account
Tomatoy Lycopene (Not Ranked)


No MHA this week, but KnY gets first again even above One Piece. The rest of the ranks are pretty much standard, except for a random Black Clover dip. But that doesn't matter as it's getting the cover next week. Also, Yuuna is getting color pages as is Spring Weapon. As it is it's looking like Cross Account s definitely ending before the year is out, and Shudan might join it at this rate. Also, it looks like Yuuna will have an important announcement next week. Otherwise, not much to talk about.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on November 01, 2017, 02:47:30 PM
That important announcement for Yuna is likely a Jump Festa OVA or TV anime announcement since a production committee label has been found on its Jump Festa event web-page. (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2017-11-01/jump-festa-site-lists-yuragi-so-no-yuna-san-production-committee/.123469)

I'm curious if we might get a Kimetsu no Yaiba anime announcement at/prior to Jump Festa this year.  The time is certainly ripe considering how well it's doing in the magazine.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 08, 2017, 12:57:37 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #50 (November 7th, 2017):
Black Clover (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Dr. Stone
2. One Piece
3. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
4. My Hero Academia
5. The Promised Neverland
Tomatoy Lycopene (Not Ranked)
6. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K
7. Haikyu!!
Goo to Goo (CP, One Shot)
8. We Never Learn
Golem Hearts (Not Ranked)
Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings (CP, Anime Adaptation Announcement)
Full Drive (Not Ranked)
9. Robot×Laserbeam
Spring Weapon Number One (CP)
10. Hinomaru Zumou
11. Gintama
12. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma
13. Cross Account
14. Shudan!
Tomatoy Lycopene


I'd say this is bad news for Shudan, but it is getting a color page next week announcing that this is the end of the "Elementary School Arc" so who knows where that is going. Dr. Stone has really been doing well recently so it's no surprise to see it so high and the rest is pretty much where it usually is. Next week Boruto gets the cover and a color page, but KnY gets the lead color, and as stated Shudan and Promised Neverland are getting color pages as well. Not surprised Yuuna is getting an anime, but I would have supposed KnY would have too since they started at the same time as each other and both have enough material for a 24-26 episode season. Oh well.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on November 08, 2017, 12:57:35 PM
There's some speculation that Shudan might move to a different magazine (or Jump+) after this arc concludes.  The while it's volume sales aren't amazing, I think it's still selling well enough that Jump doesn't want to kill it.  We'll have to wait and see what happens in the coming weeks.

KnY is bound to get an anime announcement soon, though I suspect Jump wants some breathing room between announcing Yuuna's anime and it.  If we don't hear anything about a KnY anime at Jump Festa, I'm sure something will be announced in early 2018.  The series is doing too well for Shueisha not to be working on getting an anime green-lit for it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 10, 2017, 10:51:22 AM
Well, I finally caught up with Hinomaru Zumou's scans, and I realized my mistake in starting a series that has virtually no chance of being licensed over here and which is infrequently being fan translated. This is going to be another Baby Steps situation for me.

At any rate, it's a really good sports manga, arguably the best currently running in WSJ (and the best of the last few years, at that) and it's nice that the group working on it at least had the good grace to leave off at the end of the High School portion of the manga as opposed to the middle of an arc.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 10, 2017, 11:10:34 AM
It only has a shot at release if it either gets an anime or is picked up by someone like Seven Seas. It's a really good series, but it just doesn't have much natural mainstream appeal. Shame since, like Yuuna and KnY, it started in the same round as MHA and has been running as long as that has.

But it's also up against some stiff competition in Jump itself. I think the magazine has the best line up it has had in years.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 10, 2017, 11:58:39 AM
To be fair, Sports manga and anime have been slowly but gradually growing in popularity among the Western anime fan-base, to the point where the big hitters like Kuroko no Basket and Haikyuu!! are getting full-fledged physical releases. It's still very much a niche genre over here, but a niche that's big enough to warrant some attention from licensing publishers.

Unfortunately, Hinomaru Zumou is a niche within a niche. The actual execution of the manga is in itself very straightforward and familiar to any fans of the genre, but its subject matter of Sumo (which while deeply rooted in Japanese history, culture, and tradition, has undeniably dwindled in popularity) keeps many from even paying it much mind and thus I would take an educated guess and say that a lot of Jump readers don't even give it much of a chance and just skip over it. Obviously it still does well enough to be able to keep running to this day, but it isn't the type of work that has enough immediate appeal to score an early anime adaptation deal or sell an above average amount of volumes. I have a feeling that RXL is subject to similar circumstances.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on November 10, 2017, 12:27:01 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on November 10, 2017, 10:51:22 AM
Well, I finally caught up with Hinomaru Zumou's scans, and I realized my mistake in starting a series that has virtually no chance of being licensed over here and which is infrequently being fan translated. This is going to be another Baby Steps situation for me.

At any rate, it's a really good sports manga, arguably the best currently running in WSJ (and the best of the last few years, at that) and it's nice that the group working on it at least had the good grace to leave off at the end of the High School portion of the manga as opposed to the middle of an arc.
Yeah, Fallen Angels releases the scans for it in chunks, though they usually try to stay within 20 chapters of Japanese release (they are 16 chapters behind right now).  It's not ideal, but they release it regularly enough that it's not too much trouble, though I usually just go ahead and look at the raws since I'm impatient.  :sweat:

I'm surprised that Hinomaru still hasn't gotten an anime.  While sumo as a sport has declined in popularity in Japan and Hinomaru's volume sales are only average, the manga still has done very well in the magazine itself.  You'd think Shueisha would want to capitalize on that to some extent.  From what I've seen, the hardest part of getting people into Hinomaru is just the sport itself.  Once they actually start reading it, most people tend to love it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 13, 2017, 01:47:53 PM
I was waiting for this turn in MHA. Shigaraki has been turning himself around really well recently and now he looks like he's about to hit the next level.

Now where is Gran Torino? It's time for him to show up and finally make his entrance and bring this arc to a close.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 14, 2017, 10:12:04 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #51 (November 14th, 2017):
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba (Lead CP)
1. We Never Learn
2. Haikyu!!
3. Dr. Stone
4. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K
5. Black Clover
6. Hinomaru Zumou
7. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
The Promised Neverland (CP)
8. My Hero Academia
Golem Hearts (Not Ranked)
Tomatoy Lycopene (Not Ranked)
Boruto (Cover, CP)
Full Drive (Not Ranked)
Shudan! (CP)
9. Robot×Laserbeam
10. Gintama
11. Cross Account
12. Spring Weapon Number One
13. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma
Tomatoy Lycopene


Odd structure for the series this week, but it looks like We Never Learn hit #1! Food Wars is last, but since it's all over the place it doesn't matter so much. The cluster of non-ranked series in the middle is a bit strange considering the remainder of the list below it is what you would otherwise expect. Next week One Piece gets the cover and Hinomaru and RobotxLaserbeam get color pages.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 21, 2017, 03:12:13 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #52 (November 21st, 2017):
One Piece (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
2. Dr. Stone
3. The Promised Neverland
4. Black Clover
5. Gintama
6. We Never Learn
7. My Hero Academia
Golem Hearts (Not Ranked)
Hinomaru Zumou (CP)
Full Drive (Not Ranked)
Kikou Shounen Aegis (One Shot)
8. Tomatoy Lycopene
Robot×Laserbeam (CP)
9. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
10. Haikyu!!
11. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
12. Cross Account
13. Spring Weapon Number One
14. Shudan!
Tomatoy Lycopene


Saiki is absent this week. Next week Haikyu gets the cover, and We Never Learn and Yuuna both get color pages as well as a collaboration poster. Dr. Stone also gets a color page. I'm not sure what's going on with Shudan, but at this point I'm expecting it to change magazines. Cross Account is apparently wrapping up, but Shudan is showing no signs of the end despite its lack of popularity and sales and the lack of other series to end. Also, the creator of Samon has a new one shot next issue and MHA season 3 is confirmed for Spring 2018 just like season 2 was for this year. That cluster of unranked series again makes it hard to determine what Jump is doing, but I suspect they're just trying to push newer series harder since they don't have quite so many hits these days like they used to.


Edit: And here's a list of the average rankings for Jump's 2017 series:

1. One Piece 1.708333333
2. Hero Academia 3.5
3. Neverland 3.59375
4. Black Clover 3.810810811
5. Dr. Stone 3.833333333
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6. Kimetsu 3.944444444
7. Haikyu 4.717948718
8. Straighten Up! 6.714285714
9. FoodWars 6.783783784
10. Hinomaru 7.473684211
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11. WeNeverLearn 7.538461538
12. Saiki 7.56097561
13. Yuuna 7.769230769
14. Lycopene 8.0
15. Robot 8.272727273
16. Gintama 8.756097561
17. Samon 9.4
18. HunterXHunter 9.666666667
19. Spring Weapon 9.674418605
20. Amalgam 12.22222222
21. Ole Golazo 12.4
22. Shudan 12.46666667
23. Poro 13.3
24. Marie 13.33333333
25. Cross Account 13.4375
26. Demon's Plan 13.6
27. U19 13.9
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on November 21, 2017, 03:27:10 PM
YES!!! I'd like to think that My Hero Academia is always confirmed for a new season but you never know these days. I probably should start reading.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 23, 2017, 11:14:49 AM
The two new series by Norihiro Yagi (Claymore) and Kyoichi Nanatsuki (Project ARMS) have been revealed.

Yagi's is called Soukyou no Ariadne (Ariadne of the Azure Sky) and is about a boy meeting a girl. Nanatsuki's is called Tantei Zeno to Nanatsu no Satsujin Misshitsu (Detective Zeno and the Seven Closed Room Murders) and is about a detective who solves murders.

The descriptions are not all that engaging, but these authors are known to write interesting material, so we'll see how it goes. I'm expecting something worth reading, at least.

Here's the visual. Yagi's is in the center and Nanatsuki's is on the right.

(https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/thumbnails/max1000x1500/cms/news/124301/shonensunday52.jpg)

Here's hoping this works out for Sunday. They've really been pushing hard these last two years to get quality in their pages.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on November 25, 2017, 03:09:21 PM
I bought the post anime manga volume(s) of My Hero Academia and Hunter X Hunter and also Trigun Omnibus 1. Literally the first comics I've ever bought!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 26, 2017, 10:05:12 PM
Rinne is ending in three chapters. (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-11-26/rumiko-takahashi-rin-ne-manga-ends-in-3-chapters/.124528)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on November 27, 2017, 12:29:41 AM
Rinne ending is definitely surprising, but it's probably for the best.  While I enjoy the series, it's definitely the weakest among Takahashi's major works and the series hasn't been successful outside of anime TV ratings.  I'm curious what Takahashi plans to do next.  I wouldn't be opposed to her returning to Sunday with a new rom-com, but it would be interesting to see her do a seinen manga like Maison Ikkoku again or a horror series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 27, 2017, 12:50:28 PM
With 2017 nearing the end, I thought I would share my opinions on the three series I enjoy reading most in Jump right now. I severely doubt my opinions will change over the next few weeks, so here's what I thought.

I was surprised with this chapter of MHA. I was honestly expecting All Might to be the first character to die, and didn't think this would happen. It's also interesting that this is the first arc where Midoriya directly takes on a villain and isn't left a mess by the end, and it's one where the villain's actually profited quite a bit more than the heroes did by the end. There's still a bit more wrap up to go, but I have to say I really enjoyed this arc. I reread through it last week and it works far better without having to wait a week (or two) for the next chapter and flows really well. I'm going to guess the next arc will be more lighthearted than this one was, and shorter, because this arc was surprisingly heavy and dark. It was risky to spend a whole year on one arc like this, but I think it was worth it, and I think a lot of people will turn around on it when it becomes the entire fourth season of the anime in two years. That said, I'm glad we are moving on soon.

Kimetsu no Yaiba always seems like it's just on the verge of being a breakout hit, and this year was such a strong year for the series. I'm a bit disappointed that there hasn't been any anime announced for it yet, because a single 24 episode season that covers up to the end of Spider Mountain is such an obvious place to end it, and it was where the series really became popular. Well, here's hoping 2018 is even stronger, and finally allows it that push into the mainstream that it deserves.

I'm also surprised with Promised Neverland. I was worried that it would start to dip after they escaped from the orphanage, but it has managed to maintain its quality without any problem. In fact, I'd say 2017 was a big step up for the series as a whole. Eager to see where it'll go next. I almost want to say it'll get an anime before KnY, but I really think it would do well enough with a simple 12/13 episode series by Wit or something just covering the first arc. It's already popular, but it's also on the verge of hitting it big.

And those would be my favorite SJ reads for 2017.

Now for something different.

The final 2017 total rankings for SJ's 2017:

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DPT0kdLWkAAD1OX.jpg)

Not many surprises here. I am wondering how long it is going to take Gintama to end since at this time last year everyone was expecting it to end within a few months. The anime is also promising to cover the final arc, so it must be nearing the conclusion. Other than that, I don't expect Shudan or Cross Account to last, at least in Jump.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on November 27, 2017, 03:22:45 PM
Cross Account's days are definitely numbered at this point.  Shudan, on the other hand, just had a time-skip to Soushi and Nanase's high school years, and it seems to be starting a new arc.  I think this may be Jump and Yokota's final push to see if they can make the series successful, so it's probably safe for a little longer.

My favorite manga in Jump right now are probably MHA, The Promised Neverland, and Robot x Laserbeam.  Kimetsu no Yaiba will most certainly usurp at least TPN and RxL for me, but I still need to fully catch up with it.  Really though, Jump is solid right now overall.  Among the mainstay series, there aren't any that I dislike, and all of them are enjoyable to a degree.  It really is a good time for the magazine.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 28, 2017, 10:35:51 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #1 (November 28th, 2017):
Haikyu!! (Cover/Lead CP)
1. The Promised Neverland
2. One Piece
3. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
Dr. Stone (CP)
4. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K
5. Black Clover
Golem Hearts (Not Ranked)
6. My Hero Academia
We Never Learn (CP)
7. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
Full Drive (Not Ranked)
Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs (CP)
8. Gintama
9. Hinomaru Zumou
10. Robot x Laserbeam
11. Cross Account
12. Spring Weapon No 1
13. Shudan!
Tomatoy Lycopene (Starting in Issue #2/3 there will be only 1 chapter per issue)


Lot of new announcements. For one, next week MHA gets the cover, RxL and Promised Neverland gets the color pages. Nothing about these rankings are unexpected, so let's get to it. This would be Lycopene's first proper ranking, but since it's getting put to the back it is clearly the Isobe replacement so I won't bother ranking it. Next week is Full Drive's first ranking.

There's a bit of miscellaneous news. Hunter X Hunter is returning in issue #9, and the voice actor for Josuke in JoJo will be playing Kogarashi in the Yuuna anime.

Two new series are starting in January:

#7 - Boze Beats - Ryouji Heino (Boze oneshot)
#8 - Actage - Tsuya Matsukita (Writer) + Shiro Usajizaki (Art) (Asagaya Geijutsu Koukou Eizou-ka e Youkoso oneshot)

There are also a bunch of oneshots coming from well known creators:

- Tite Kubo (Bleach)
- Naoshi Komi (Nisekoi)
- Kyosuke Usuta (Pyu to Fuku! Jaguar, Food Fighter Tabelu)
- Hiroshi Shiibashi (Nurarihyon no Mago)
- Mitsutoshi Shimabukuro (Toriko)
- Ryuhei Tamura (Beelzebub, Hungry Marie)
- Nisio Isin (Medaka Box, Monogatari, etc)
- Mizuki Kawashita (Ane Doki, Ichigo 100%, etc)

They are also replicating the covers of the first issues of Jump on the back of all their 2018 issues. There will also be other events later in the year to celebrate Jump's 50th anniversary.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on November 28, 2017, 11:14:19 PM
That's one impressive lineup of one-shots.  :o

With the new series coming in soon, I am curious what will be cancelled.  Cross Account is a definite, but that still leaves two slots.  From what I hear, Gintama's final battle is nearing its end so maybe that's it? Neither Golem Hearts or Full Drive seem to be getting particularly great reception, so it could be one of them too. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 28, 2017, 11:50:02 PM
There's also the possibility that Shudan will be moved to another magazine. I'm not sure if they'll cancel one of the newer ones this early in Buddy Strike fashion.

I hope there's word on Ashihara and World Trigger soon. It's been over a year and we still don't even know how he's doing. The series still sells well, so I don't think the hiatus will particularly hurt it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on November 29, 2017, 10:36:01 PM
So did anyone else hear about what happened in the recent chapter of Hajime no Ippo?  I am far from being caught up on the manga, but it seems like Ippo's character is going to be heading in a similar direction to Joe Yabuki's from Ashita no Joe.  I guess Morikawa is finally planning an endgame for the series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Mustang on November 30, 2017, 02:30:57 PM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on November 29, 2017, 10:36:01 PM
So did anyone else hear about what happened in the recent chapter of Hajime no Ippo?  I am far from being caught up on the manga, but it seems like Ippo's character is going to be heading in a similar direction to Joe Yabuki's from Ashita no Joe.  I guess Morikawa is finally planning an endgame for the series.

Believe it or not, I had already typed something about it here, but chose to delete it. I don't care much for Ippo as a character, but even I can't take something like this. That hit me pretty hard because I lost all motivation to care what happens next.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 01, 2017, 01:34:12 AM
I mean this is basically what I expected to happen to Ippo ever since the series hinted at his punch drunk syndrome.  Maybe it's because most people haven't read AnJ or forget that it's one of Morikawa's biggest inspirations, but were people really expecting Ippo to come out of this ok?  Honestly, I'm surprised how negative some of the reactions from "hardcore" HnI fans are.  They complained constantly about the series being at a status quo, and when Morikawa breaks from that to do something different, they say that they want to go back to the same status quo.  People are just never satisfied.   :??:

EDIT: Also why do people think that Ippo is dead? There's nothing in the chapter to indicate that he's dead.  He just collapsed from the combination of getting hit, exhaustion, and his illness. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 01, 2017, 01:31:18 PM
I think the bigger reaction about this would be that it took Morikawa almost three decades to come to the same conclusion it took Kajiwara and Chiba five years to reach. Personally, I would have preferred not doing the same thing.

But I also think he should be given the benefit of the doubt. We don't really know where he's going with it yet.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 01, 2017, 01:36:40 PM
To be fair, Ashita no Joe and Hajime no Ippo are very different manga, tonally speaking, despite both being about boxing. Seeing a plot point like that happen to Joe is not all that shocking since his story was no stranger to hardships and tragedy right from the start.

Comparatively, Ippo's story has tended to be mostly light-hearted in contrast, so it doesn't surprise me that so many fans have been taken aback by this drastic shift in tone.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 01, 2017, 01:42:03 PM
That's a good point. That said, I'm not worried. He's been writing this for so long that I'm sure he knows what he's doing at this point.

In other news, Kentaro Yabuki's new not-To-Love-Ru series will be debuting in Jump+ in January (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2017-12-01/kentaro-yabuki-new-manga-launches-in-shonen-jump-in-january/.124714). Here's hoping it's closer to Black Cat.

Also, lol @ the first comment.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 01, 2017, 02:11:51 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 01, 2017, 01:36:40 PM
To be fair, Ashita no Joe and Hajime no Ippo are very different manga, tonally speaking, despite both being about boxing. Seeing a plot point like that happen to Joe is not all that shocking since his story was no stranger to hardships and tragedy right from the start.

Comparatively, Ippo's story has tended to be mostly light-hearted in comparison, so it doesn't surprise me that so many fans have been taken aback by this drastic shift in tone.

The big thing I'm wondering is how Morikawa is going have Ippo return to boxing after this.  Based on what happens in chapter 1203, it seems like Ippo can still walk away from boxing and live relatively good life, so would he really risk returning to the ring?  That's the big issue I have with this direction, because just like how AnJ and HnI are different series tonally, Joe and Ippo drastically different characters with different motivations.  It's hard for me to imagine Ippo being willing to give up his own life for boxing like Joe did.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 01, 2017, 02:20:35 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on December 01, 2017, 01:42:03 PM
That's a good point. That said, I'm not worried. He's been writing this for so long that I'm sure he knows what he's doing at this point.

In other news, Kentaro Yabuki's new not-To-Love-Ru series will be debuting in Jump+ in January (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2017-12-01/kentaro-yabuki-new-manga-launches-in-shonen-jump-in-january/.124714). Here's hoping it's closer to Black Cat.

Also, lol @ the first comment.
As long as Hasemi isn't attached to this new work, I'm down for it.  I want to see Yabuki write his own series again, because he has a really underrated talent for it.  We'll be hearing more about his new series at Jump Festa, so hopefully it's something interesting.

In other Jump+ related news, Astra Lost In Space is ending on December 30th. (https://shonenjumpplus.com/episode/13932016480029204586)

The series has been heading towards its natural conclusion, so it's not too much of a surprise, but it's good to have an official confirmation.  I'm about 20 chapters behind, so I'm going to try to catch up before the conclusion.  :sweat:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Mustang on December 01, 2017, 02:30:36 PM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on December 01, 2017, 01:34:12 AM
I mean this is basically what I expected to happen to Ippo ever since the series hinted at his punch drunk syndrome.  Maybe it's because most people haven't read AnJ or forget that it's one of Morikawa's biggest inspirations, but were people really expecting Ippo to come out of this ok?  Honestly, I'm surprised how negative some of the reactions from "hardcore" HnI fans are.  They complained constantly about the series being at a status quo, and when Morikawa breaks from that to do something different, they say that they want to go back to the same status quo.  People are just never satisfied.   :??:

EDIT: Also why do people think that Ippo is dead? There's nothing in the chapter to indicate that he's dead.  He just collapsed from the combination of getting hit, exhaustion, and his illness.

I don't know where the implications of him being dead in the ring came from, and I'm assuming "punch drunk" is basically the same thing as CTE? I only heard of it through the NFL and I don't know how soon one can die from it, but I guess that's where they're getting it from. But I have no idea.

As for my reaction, and while I've never seen of Ashita no Joe, Ippo was never a character I actually cared for, but he is what kept the story going (and I could at least get behind and root for), and I keep coming back to his character because as the main character I feel he was handled poorly. Now while I understand he just enjoyed boxing, but overall he had no goal. And truth be told, it's not him going out the way he did that bothers me. It's him losing to a nobody that's making me have that reaction. He's punch drunk, fine, but I'd rather him have a rematch against the #2 guy (what is his name) that he lost to the first time or Sendo, and have that type of defeat, but he lose to a nobody and it feels almost like a Ronda Rowsy type of defeat. He was suppose to become a BEAST!!! Joking aside, I did want to see him obtain a goal before having this type of defeat. He did tell what's her name that he would retire if he lost again.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 01, 2017, 02:41:03 PM
Yabuki stated that he wanted to go back to Black Cat for a while and tie up some loose ends, so if it's that I wouldn't object. He just had such a talent for action adventure that it's a shame he hasn't been able to do it for so long.

Quote from: VLordGTZ on December 01, 2017, 02:20:35 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on December 01, 2017, 01:42:03 PM
That's a good point. That said, I'm not worried. He's been writing this for so long that I'm sure he knows what he's doing at this point.

In other news, Kentaro Yabuki's new not-To-Love-Ru series will be debuting in Jump+ in January (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2017-12-01/kentaro-yabuki-new-manga-launches-in-shonen-jump-in-january/.124714). Here's hoping it's closer to Black Cat.

Also, lol @ the first comment.
As long as Hasemi isn't attached to this new work, I'm down for it.  I want to see Yabuki write his own series again, because he has a really underrated talent for it.  We'll be hearing more about his new series at Jump Festa, so hopefully it's something interesting.

In other Jump+ related news, Astra Lost In Space is ending on December 30th. (https://shonenjumpplus.com/episode/13932016480029204586)

The series has been heading towards its natural conclusion, so it's not too much of a surprise, but it's good to have an official confirmation.  I'm about 20 chapters behind, so I'm going to try to catch up before the conclusion.  :sweat:
As someone who is keeping up with it, this is quite surprising.

Spoiler
The story is heading to its climax, but so much has to happen by the time they get back home that I'm really surprised it'll be able to wrap it up so quickly. I'm not sure how it can be done and still have it remain satisfying.
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Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 01, 2017, 04:19:44 PM
Quote from: Mustang on December 01, 2017, 02:30:36 PM
I don't know where the implications of him being dead in the ring came from, and I'm assuming "punch drunk" is basically the same thing as CTE? I only heard of it through the NFL and I don't know how soon one can die from it, but I guess that's where they're getting it from. But I have no idea.

As for my reaction, and while I've never seen of Ashita no Joe, Ippo was never a character I actually cared for, but he is what kept the story going (and I could at least get behind and root for), and I keep coming back to his character because as the main character I feel he was handled poorly. Now while I understand he just enjoyed boxing, but overall he had no goal. And truth be told, it's not him going out the way he did that bothers me. It's him losing to a nobody that's making me have that reaction. He's punch drunk, fine, but I'd rather him have a rematch against the #2 guy (what is his name) that he lost to the first time or Sendo, and have that type of defeat, but he lose to a nobody and it feels almost like a Ronda Rowsy type of defeat. He was suppose to become a BEAST!!! Joking aside, I did want to see him obtain a goal before having this type of defeat. He did tell what's her name that he would retire if he lost again.
Yeah, punk drunk's official medical term is "dementia pugilistica" which is a type of CTE.  I don't think there's a consistent period of time in which it can kill someone, but excessive impacts to the head severely worsen the condition and can eventually lead permanent brain damage.  The manga has already been confirmed to be continuing for the near future, so while Ippo promised he would quit if he lost again, I'm pretty sure something is going to cause him to continue regardless of the risk to himself.  The manga's end goal is very likely still going to be Ippo vs Martinez, though it's probably going to play out similarly to Joe vs Mendoza at this point.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 01, 2017, 04:55:39 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on December 01, 2017, 02:41:03 PM
Yabuki stated that he wanted to go back to Black Cat for a while and tie up some loose ends, so if it's that I wouldn't object. He just had such a talent for action adventure that it's a shame he hasn't been able to do it for so long.

Black Cat Part II has been something Yabuki has wanted to do ever since original ended, so I definitely wouldn't be opposed to it.  At the very least, I think he'll be taking break from ecchi harems for a while considering that he didn't want to do more To Love Ru right away despite Hasemi's insistence. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 03, 2017, 12:59:56 AM
Oricon's top selling manga of 2017 list is out. (http://www.mangamag.fr/actualite/actualite-manga/top-10-ventes-annuelles-de-mangas-japon-2017-series/)
Quote
1. One Piece 11,495,532
2. Attack on Titan 6,622,781
3. Kingdom 6,184,214
4. My Hero Academia 5,852,310
5. Tokyo Ghoul:RE 5,303,514
6. Haikyu! 5,067,939
7. Seven Deadly Sins 3,592,571
8. One-Punch Man 3,223,151
9. Food Wars! 2,792,441
10. Magi - The Labyrinth of Magic 2,713,074

Unfortunately, there was only a top 10 this year, but a guy on the MangaHelpers forums did a rough estimate of the series and sales numbers of the top 11-50 using Oricon and Shosekiranking sales data:
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11 Detective Conan 2,321,126
12 Promised Neverland 2,093,790
13 3-gatsu no Lion 1,920,489
14 Black Clover 1,892,501
15 Ao no Exorcist 1,809,121
16 FAIRY TAIL 1,808,863
17 Diamond no Ace Act II 1,673,333
18 Wotaku ni Koi wa Muzukashii 1,460,842
19 Dragon Ball Super 1,439,895
20 Major 2nd 1,425,722
21 Black Butler 1,403,592
22 HUNTER x HUNTER 1,365,417
23 Cardcaptor Sakura: Clear Card-hen 1,364,991
24 Gintama 1,339,124
25 Tensei shitara Slime Datta Ken 1,304,520
26 P to JK 1,228,431
27 Dungeon Meshi 1,225,788
28 Karakai Jouzu no Takagi-san 1,221,743
29 DAYS 1,216,742
30 BORUTO 1,206,518
31 Kimetsu no Yaiba 1,198,357
32 Kakegurui 1,181,393
33 Kimi ni Todoke 1,167,796
34 Komi-san wa, Community-shou desu 1,135,494
35 Yowamushi Pedal 1,121,123
36 JoJo Part 8: JoJolion 1,118,165
37 Kaguya-sama wa Kokurasetai 1,091,710
38 Shuumatsu no Harem 1,058,884
39 Tokyo Tarareba-jou 1,040,145
40 Mahoutsukai no Yome 1,016,131
41 Nigeru wa Haji daga Yaku ni Tatsu 1,010,590
42 Owari no Seraph 1,010,031
43 Saiki Kusuo no PSI Nan 992,909
44 Youjo Senki 970,146
45 Ajin 959,992
46 Chihayafuru 937,307
47 Terra Formars 935,581
48 World Trigger 929,495
49 Omoi, Omoware, Furi, Furare 914,311
50 Prison School 881,484
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They also compiled numbers for some other notable Shueisha series:
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Golden Kamuy 828,351
Yuragisou no Yuuna-san 679,228
Bokutachi wa Benkyou ga Dekinai 269,783
Robot x Laserbeam 233,226
Dr. Stone 205,697
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Of course, all of these numbers only account for physical volume sales.  For instance, Robot x Laserbeam is currently at 480,000 in combined physical and digital sales (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2017-12-02/robot-laserbeam-manga-has-460000-combined-print-copies-digital-sales/.124772), so it definitely seems like digital is starting to have a much larger effect on overall sales.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 03, 2017, 07:53:33 PM
Also noted is that sales for MHA, AoT, TG:Re, and Magi all went up for this year. Impressive when digital sales are only increasing.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 05, 2017, 11:18:05 AM
YonkouProductions released a video where he talks about the early history of Weekly Shonen Jump and its mangaka. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QnAYJ56Uqvw)

It's only 20 minutes long so it doesn't cover everything of course, but I found it to be a pretty insightful video.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 05, 2017, 12:42:07 PM
That was a great sum up of Jump's history. Very to the point, but it was extremely well done. A lot of the best series were highlighted, too.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 05, 2017, 01:38:15 PM
I wish we could get more content like this. Great subject and very informative. His presentation itself may not be the best of quality, but the stuff he talks about is more interesting to me than most of what other anime and manga YouTubers tend to cover.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 05, 2017, 10:57:56 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #2/3 (December 5th, 2017):
My Hero Academia (Lead CP)
1. One Piece
2. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
3. Dr. Stone
The Promised Neverland (CP)
4. We Never Learn
5. Gintama
6. Black Clover
7. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K
Part Three (Oneshot by Mizuki Kawashita & Nishio Isin, CP)
8. Hinomaru Zumou
Robot x Laserbeam (CP)
9. Haikyu!!
10. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
Golem Hearts (Not Ranked)
11. Spring Weapon No 1
12. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
13. Full Drive
14. Shudan!
15. Cross Account
Tomatoy Lycopene


Next issue Dr. Stone gets the cover and Black Clover and Boruto are getting color pages. Food Wars and KnY are also getting posters in the issue. Full Drive's first ranking isn't all too surprising. The series was pretty bland. The ratings are more or less the same as always with Gintama taking a large jump this week. I'm pretty certain Cross Account is on the way out, but Shudan just can't seem to rank. No idea how that's going to shake out in the next few weeks.

Also, MHA is having a film in summer 2018. Anime original.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 06, 2017, 06:48:24 PM
The results of the third MHA popularity poll:

1. Bakugo (5909)
2. Midoriya (3205)
3. Todoroki (3204)
4. Kirishima (2006)
5. Ida (1822)
6. Aizawa (1453)
7. All Might (1378)
8. Kaminari (1223)
9. Uraraka (1211)
10. Shinso (1178)

Looks like this arc boosted Kirishima and Uraraka's popularity a bit. Kaminari is back in the top 10, and Shinso makes it in despite only being hinted at having a focus soon. Here's hoping Horikoshi can finally get to him next year. Also, this was taken before Mirio's really great turn halfway through the arc, so who knows where he would rank now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 11, 2017, 12:55:23 PM
Detective Conan is going on another hiatus so that Gosho Aoyama can get medical treatment. (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-12-11/detective-conan-manga-goes-on-hiatus-for-creator-medical-treatment/.125122)

At the very least, Aoyama has chosen a good place to stop the manga, as the boss of the Black Organization has FINALLY been revealed!  I'm interested to see how he handles this development when he returns from his break.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 11, 2017, 04:06:54 PM
I really like the Bakugo/Kirishima/Kaminari bro team in MHA. Also dug that Kaminari even called Bakugo Kacchan on top of it. I had also totally forgotten that Uraraka was the one to bring Nighteye to the ambulance so of course the developments would have affected her. I'm really eager to see where these current developments are heading.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on December 11, 2017, 06:17:09 PM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on December 11, 2017, 12:55:23 PM
Detective Conan is going on another hiatus so that Gosho Aoyama can get medical treatment. (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-12-11/detective-conan-manga-goes-on-hiatus-for-creator-medical-treatment/.125122)

At the very least, Aoyama has chosen a good place to stop the manga, as the boss of the Black Organization has FINALLY been revealed!  I'm interested to see how he handles this development when he returns from his break.
I hope Aoyama has a good recovery
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 13, 2017, 03:33:54 PM
I read the first chapter of Soukyuu no Ariadne by the creator of Claymore. If you are looking for a fun adventure manga, this might just be it. Totally different tone from his last two series.

Sunday seems to really be pushing for more adventure manga again.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 15, 2017, 12:02:58 PM
Ariadne reminds me a lot of Castle in the Sky, but with more of a shonen-edge. Definitely interested in seeing where it goes.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 15, 2017, 11:14:35 PM
Kentaro Yabuki's Jump+ manga will be an adaption of DARLING in the FRANXX. (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-12-15/to-love-ru-kentaro-yabuki-new-manga-is-darling-in-the-franxx/.125363)

I'm a bit disappointed that he's not doing an original work, but at least he'll be taking break from borderline hentai.  I wonder if Viz will pick this up like they did for the Juni Taisen manga.  FRANXX has a decent amount of buzz around it due to Trigger's involvement.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 15, 2017, 11:25:31 PM
Well, at least it's not To Love Ru. Considering Viz picked up Juni Taisen I hope they consider picking this up. TRIGGER shows tend to be big deals so I wouldn't be surprised if they hop on the buzz. And if the story of FRANXX is good, hey, Yabuki could always end up drawing the superior version of the story just like how Akira Akatsuki's manga version of Juni Taisen is the best version of that series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 22, 2017, 07:31:14 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #4/5 (December 19th, 2017):
Dr. Stone (Lead CP)
1. One Piece
2. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K
3. Haikyu!!
Black Clover (CP)
4. We Never Learn
5. The Promised Neverland
6. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
7. My Hero Academia
Boruto (CP)
8. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma
9. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
10. Hinomaru Zumo
11. Gintama
12. Robot x Laserbeam
13. Spring Weapon No. 1
14. Cross Account
15. Shudan!
16. Full Drive
17. Golem Hearts
Tomatoy Lycopene


Bad first ranking for Golem Hearts. It's not looking good for it. Same with Full Drive. Those two probably won't last very long. As for next issue, One Piece gets the cover, Hinomaru gets a color page and a big announcement (anime finally?) as does KnY and Komi's one shot. Golem Hearts also gets extra pages, but I really don't know how that will help it at this point. Saiki will probably be near the top for a while as the second season of the anime is starting soon. See you guys again for this post in two weeks!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 28, 2017, 01:50:02 PM
Hinomaru Zumo gets an anime! (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-12-28/shonen-jump-sumo-club-manga-hinomaru-zumo-gets-anime/.125820)

Finally!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 28, 2017, 03:59:36 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #6 (January 2nd, 2018):
One Piece (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Dr Stone
2. The Promised Neverland
3. Black Clover
4. My Hero Academia
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba (CP)
5. We Never Learn
6. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma
Origin of E (Naoshi Komi oneshot, ESports)
7. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
8. Gintama
9. Haikyu!!
10. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
Hinomaru Zumou (CP, Anime Announcement)
11. Robot x Laserbeam
12. Spring Weapon #1
13. Shudan! (End)
14. Cross Account
15. Golem Hearts (Extra Pages)
16. Full Drive
Lycopene the Tomatoy Poodle


Shudan is confirmed ending. The first new series (Bozebeats) starts next issue. Hinomaru and Saiki are both getting color pages. There's nothing much surprising here except that it looks like all four of the recent series are not doing very well at all. It appears that fans are very satisfied with the current line up and are just not looking for anything else new right now. Other than that everything is the same as it ever was.

It looks like the Hinomaru anime will be adapting all of the 1st part (chapter 1 to 159 - volume 1 to 17) of the series. Can't say it's surprising, but it's highly welcome. This means a very satisfying adaption for non-manga readers.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 31, 2017, 01:24:47 PM
Shaman King will be getting a new arc in Shonen Magazine Edge this spring! (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-12-31/shaman-king-manga-gets-new-arc-this-spring/.125939)

Additionally, according to the 20th anniversary website (http://comic-sp.kodansha.co.jp/skg20th/), Kodansha will be releasing the original manga in 35 volumes with redrawn covers by Takei.

I hope Kodansha USA picks this up once Viz's license for the series expires, because it's about time that the "true ending" got released over here.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 04, 2018, 05:15:32 PM
Muhyo & Roji is getting a manga sequel in Jump+ (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-01-04/muhyo-and-roji-bureau-of-supernatural-investigation-gets-sequel-in-spring/.126053)

Ashita no Joe is having a 50th Anniversary celebration this year (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-01-04/ashita-no-joe-manga-50th-anniversary-project-announced-in-video/.126027)

It looks like 2018 is going to be a good year for manga!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Avaitor on January 05, 2018, 12:59:27 AM
Hopefully that 50th anniversary celebration will include a western license.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 05, 2018, 08:10:23 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on January 05, 2018, 12:59:27 AMHopefully that 50th anniversary celebration will include a western license.

A man can only dream....:imnothappy:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 06, 2018, 12:22:52 AM
With Seven Seas putting out so much Go Nagai and Leiji Matsumoto material you'd figure a series like this would be next on the docket. I mean, they're even releasing Dragon Half this year.

I wouldn't count it out just yet.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on January 09, 2018, 12:51:14 PM
So, holy shit at that last chapter of Kimetsu no Yaiba.

Spoiler
I almost want to cheer, but I doubt that it's over yet. More than likely something will prevent him from completely cutting off the older brother demon's head, but just the way that he plays defeat and despair until that one moment of opportunity arises is fantastic, in which he unleashes his trademark head-butt on his enemy, catching him off guard and temporarily stunning him in order to give him an opportunity for a kill-strike. His sister and all of his friends are down and out, he's barely keeping it together himself and two of his fingers are broken, and his enemies are taunting him to mentally torture him before finishing him off. He doesn't give up hope. He throws it right back in that guy's smug, laughing face. I love it. This is the kind of stuff that I read shonen manga for.
[close]
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 09, 2018, 04:37:52 PM
That chapter was full on crazy. This battle has to be nearing the end now. There's not much left of our main characters at this point!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 09, 2018, 09:31:50 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #7 (January 9th, 2018):
Bozebeats (Cover, Lead CP, New Series)
1. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
2. One Piece
The Disastrous Life of Saiki K (CP)
3. Black Clover
4. Dr. Stone
5. The Promised Neverland
6. My Hero Academia
7. We Never Learn
Hinomaru Sumo (CP)
8. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
9. Gintama
10. Haikyu!!
11. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
12. Robot x Laserbeam
13. Cross Account (END)
14. Spring Weapon No. 1
15. Full Drive (23p)
16. Golem Hearts
Tomatoy Lycopene

And there goes Cross Account. Next week we have another new series and KnY is getting yet another color page (it's been getting a lot recently) not to mention Yuuna is getting a poster.  The rankings look the same as usual although it does seem like the most recent series won't be lasting very long. With Saiki's anime starting soon I think it's safe to say it will be pushed quite a bit and I think Yuuna will get the same when its anime starts too. Otherwise everything is more or less where it usually is.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on January 09, 2018, 10:53:11 PM
And with Cross Account's death, nothing of value was lost.  :awesome:

Golem Hearts doesn't seem like it will end by issue 8, so I'm guessing that Full Drive will be the third series to get cancelled this round since the match Dan was playing is now over.  It's good to see KnY continue to do great, and it looks like things are performing as expected. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 16, 2018, 11:47:05 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #8 (January 16th, 2018):
Act-Age (Cover/Lead CP, New Series)
1. Dr. Stone
2. The Promised Neverland
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba (CP)
3. Black Clover
4. We Never Learn
5. My Hero Academia
6. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
7. Hinomaru Zumou
8. Spring Weapon No 1
Boruto (Not Ranked)
9. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma
Bozebeats (CP, 25p)
10. Haikyu!!
11. Yuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
12. Robot x Laserbeam
13. Gintama
14. Full Drive
15. Golem Hearts
Tomatoy Lycopene


Looking at the recent ratings there are a few patterns emerging. The first is that Jump is really pushing Dr. Stone. It's good and I'm enjoying it, but I really do doubt it being placed so high is only based on popularity. It's sales are not very impressive. The other is that KnY getting so many color pages almost makes it seem like they're trying to squeeze more popularity out of it since it has reached the peak of what it can really achieve without an anime. I think that would be remedied by actually having one. If it doesn't have an anime by the end of the year I'll be very surprised. Everything else more of less falls where it usually does but those two series have been bugging me recently and I think that's what has been going on.

Next week Promised Neverland gets the cover and Act Age and HxH get color pages. Also, there's a We Never Learn poster, as well as a brand new one shot. I hope the new series this round fair better than the last batch. Doesn't look like any of them are very popular.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 17, 2018, 02:04:37 AM
Really? I've heard lots of praise and buzz for Bozebeats so far. That one might have legs to it.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 17, 2018, 11:11:19 AM
Quote from: LumRanmaYasha on January 17, 2018, 02:04:37 AM
Really? I've heard lots of praise and buzz for Bozebeats so far. That one might have legs to it.
No, I meant the round before this batch. Those don't seem to have hit.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 24, 2018, 05:16:01 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #9 (January 23rd, 2018):
The Promised Neverland (Cover/Lead Color Pages)
1. One Piece
Bozebeats (23p)
Hunter x Hunter (Resume, CP)
2. Black Clover
3. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
4. Haikyuu!!
5. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K
Act-Age (CP, 25p)
6. We Never Learn
7. My Hero Academia
8. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma
Seishun!! Sanae no Daibouken (Oneshot)
9. Hinomaru Zumo
10. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
11. Spring Weapon No. 1
12. Gintama
13. Robot x Laserbeam
14. Full Drive
15. Golem Hearts
Tomatoy Lycopene

Gintama is getting a final arc climax cover next week! Final chapter! MHA and Food Wars are also getting color pages. I can't say anything about Bozebeats being put that high since Jump did the same with Hungry Marie early and that didn't turn into anything. Dr. Stone is absent this week. Everything else is about what you'd figure.

But this is it for Gintama! Say goodbye, everyone!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 29, 2018, 07:13:35 PM
Not a big fan of the newest Black Clover reveal. He was heavily hinted at being a villain for so long that when it was revealed he wasn't it was actually a good reveal and made the character more endearing. Turning it around and making him evil after all sort of kills that whole aspect. Certainly Black Clover has never really done build up and drama well, but this was a real disappointment. I lost all interest in the character now. And when it's (apparently) involved with the main villain, that's a bad sign. Tabata has talent, but I think he might need a better or more fitting editor.

As for MHA, I know this chapter is supposed to be a big red herring about Aoyama, but I'm not convinced it is. That moment at the end was telling. That said, I do like him more as a character the more he appears so I do hope he gets more focus.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 29, 2018, 09:29:24 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on January 24, 2018, 05:16:01 PM

Gintama is getting a final arc climax cover next week! Final chapter!

But this is it for Gintama! Say goodbye, everyone!

It's the "climax" of the arc but Gintama itself is not ending next week. That'll probably happen a few weeks after. Based on what's happening it makes sense that chapter'll have color pages since it'll conclude the battle, but there'll need to be a few more chapters for closure. I'll wager it'll end around April or whenever the next batch of new series start popping up.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on January 29, 2018, 07:13:35 PM
Not a big fan of the newest Black Clover reveal. He was heavily hinted at being a villain for so long that when it was revealed he wasn't it was actually a good reveal and made the character more endearing. Turning it around and making him evil after all sort of kills that whole aspect. Certainly Black Clover has never really done build up and drama well, but this was a real disappointment. I lost all interest in the character now. And when it's (apparently) involved with the main villain, that's a bad sign. Tabata has talent, but I think he might need a better or more fitting editor.

As for MHA, I know this chapter is supposed to be a big red herring about Aoyama, but I'm not convinced it is. That moment at the end was telling. That said, I do like him more as a character the more he appears so I do hope he gets more focus.

Yeah, I'm not big on this twist either. Though to be fair, we don't know if he's actually evil or not - just that he's torn between sides, and he's going to decide his loyalties based on this interaction between Licht and Julius. It appears that he and Licht are split personalities, so it's entirely plausible that he genuinely believed in doing good in his other persona.

Though speaking of changing editors, this was Tabata's author comment last week:

(https://78.media.tumblr.com/e61caf38149d60620d9b3cdcd2cbace6/tumblr_p3cmdxD83P1r6toezo1_640.png)

Since these chapters are finished two weeks in advance of publication, this was probably one of the last BC chapters Katayama-san worked on. So it'll be interesting to see how the series might change direction with this new editor.

And yeah, I think the stuff going on with Aoyama is going to become something bigger than the gag we got with this chapter. I don't know if that necessarily mean he's the traitor, but I can definitely see him being elevated from gag character to a more fleshed-out member of the cast.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 31, 2018, 01:40:09 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #10 (January 30th, 2018):
Gintama (Cover/Lead CP)
1. One Piece
2. The Promised Neverland
3. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
4. Black Clover
My Hero Academia (CP)
Act-Age (Not Ranked)
5. Haikyu!!
Shokugeki no Soma (CP)
Bozebeats (Not Ranked)
6. Dr. Stone
Hunter x Hunter (Not Ranked)
7. We Never Learn
8. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K.
9. Hinomaru Zumou
10. Spring Weapon No. 1
11. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
12. Robot x Laserbeam
13. Full Drive
14. Golem Hearts
Tomatoy Lycopene


Next week We Never Learn is getting the cover. Also, yes, looks like Gintama didn't end with this chapter. Not much longer to go, though. I keep secretly hoping they're waiting for it to end so they can just slid World Trigger back into its spot. Silly, but that's just what I hope. Otherwise it's business as usual. I'm still curious as to what is going on with RxL. The time skip still seems odd to me.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on January 31, 2018, 03:58:01 PM
My guess is that the Jump editors were concerned with RxL's future growth, so they wanted Fujimaki to take the series in a new direction.  Right now, it's selling about as well as WNL and Dr. Stone in terms of volume sales, but they might be concerned about the sales plateauing prematurely since the series doesn't have nearly as much buzz around it compared to the other two.  At the very least, I'm expecting it to last 10 or so volumes like Straighten Up and Samon did, but who knows what will happen after that.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 03, 2018, 01:58:55 PM
So, I've been thinking quite a lot about Food Wars recently (I was even considering writing a blog piece about it at one point), namely the issues of the whole Central saga and where it went wrong. To be honest, I'm not sure whether the manga will continue past this arc, not due to a lack of popularity. While it's typically in the bottom half of the rankings every week, it's rarely ever among the bottom three, and from what I can gather it makes up for its rankings with decent volume sales. It also doesn't hurt that it has been successfully adapted into an anime that still has another season coming along this year.

That said, while I wouldn't say that I was ever as big a fan of it as a lot of other people are, I did enjoy the series in the early chapters. In particular, though, I wanted to point out that the closest the series came to being a great competition manga, for me, was during the Moon Festival arc (obviously before Azami showed up). Even the Stagiaire arc right be before it was a great breath of fresh air. The reason I say this is because it took a break from the normal Shokugeki style format of competition and instead branched out into other ways of competing with food. And really, when I think back on it, some of the most interesting parts of the series dealt less with direct 1-on-1 cooking battles and instead focused more on how a Chef operated when thinking in terms of their career. The fundamental problem with the titular Shokugeki is that it's far too limiting of a format to really show the dynamics of a good clash between characters. Mother's basement did a video on how these worked and how they were interesting in terms of being both ideological battles as well as strategy battles in terms of showing the strengths of one chef's planning over that of another. To an extent he's right, but even at its best I still always felt that the series rarely ever lived up to the full potential of most of its matches, and a big reason for that is how it relies a bit too heavily on high-stakes, "live-or-die" style scenarios for many of its matches. Part of the reason that the Central arc lacks any sense of tension is because the main characters can't actually lose from a narrative perspective. To be clear, they can absolutely lose their matches (I wouldn't be surprised to see Soma lose against either the first or second seat in the next bout, for that matter). However, we know that they can't lose in terms of suffering any significant consequences for doing so, as even if they don't prevail, some convenient BS will have to be ass-pulled in order to bail them out at the last minute, otherwise there's no story progression from that point.

Essentially, if the manga indeed continues past this arc, the author REALLY needs to step back from the "win or you get expelled" angle, or other similar high-stakes scenarios. When you set things up like that, plot armor will inevitably kick in for all of the characters that matter. Additionally, another big problem with this whole conflict right now is that the one thing that the Shokugeki format had going for it, which was the whole element of planning and strategy, is completely absent from these team battles (which, I should mention, have very little real teamwork despite how much it was built up for that). Being that it's a survival and elimination type setup, it just goes from one match to another without any real prep time seen between bouts.

Going back to the Stagiaire and Moon Festival arcs, what made them work so much more for me is that they showed what Soma and his friends (as well as us as the readers) had learned about cooking from previous arcs being applied to different scenarios than Shokugeki. For example, in the Stagiaire arc Soma had to come up with a way to improve the workflow of the first restaurant which he served at, whereas he had to adapt to the workflow of Shinomiya's restaurant in the next stage of his Staigaire. It's interesting since the problems he has to solve are completely different than just finding a superior recipe to whoever the competing chef of the week is. And in the Moon Festival arc, his competition with Kuga is fantastic since he and Megumi have to learn on the fly how to properly run a street stall and attract customers to try and outsell their competition. One key point that stood out to me is how he used the aroma of curry, something that he had learned in a previous arc to combat Hayama, in order to attract customers with the rich smell of his food. That is an outright genius way both in terms of real logic and well as from a narrative stand-point of using past skills to prevail in a new setting. That's the kind of thing that I would honestly like to see more of from this series going forward if it continues past this arc.

Unfortunately, the author seems so fixated on the Shokugeki format to the the manga's detriment, IMO. Personally, I find that after being used so many times, its structure is too limiting in many cases, and the outcomes are often far too predictable. I'm not saying that it needs to go entirely, but that it needs to be used more sparingly. Also, more than ever, I stand by my opinion that Azami is a boring villain. Interestingly enough, the first seat Tsukasa Eishi has hints of being a bit more morally complex and nuanced, which makes me wonder why he didn't get more focus and development as an antagonistic force for the Rebels than just a little bit of backstory and character exposition.

Anwyays, just my two cents on the manga and how it could be better.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 04, 2018, 01:17:26 PM
I know that some people just want MHA to get up to the next major story arc already, but can I just say that I'm seriously enjoying these "downtime" chapters. Firstly, I don't consider them filler like most people do since they are clearly developing the supporting cast of characters and setting up new character arcs. In addition to that, though, it's a fantastic change of pace to show what the normal lives of the UA students are like between missions or competitions, and in addition to Horikoshi really showing us his humorous side as a writer, I feel like it's the down to earth chapters and moments like this that ultimately end up giving the serious conflicts more weight to them.

And in all honesty, being that I have pretty mixed feelings about the previous major story arc, these last few chapters have done a good job of reminding me of why I enjoy and care about these characters as much as I do.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 08, 2018, 12:56:47 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #11 (January 6th, 2018):
We Never Learn (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
2. One Piece
3. My Hero Academia
4. Black Clover
Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs (CP)
5. The Promised Neverland
6. Haikyu!
7. Hinomaru Zumou
Hunter x Hunter (Not Ranked)
Act-Age (Not Ranked)
Dr. Stone (CP)
8. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K
Bozebeats (Not Ranked)
9. Spring Weapon No. 1
10. Gintama
11. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
12. Robot x Laserbeam
13. Golem Hearts
14. Full Drive
Tomatoy Lycopene


Next week Haikyu gets the cover and Hinomaru and Promised Neverland are getting color pages. Nothing much surprising here. It's good to see MHA going back up. I know some people didn't like the most recent arc, but I think it works much better when you're not reading it weekly. Plus, now that Horikoshi is done writing the movie, the novel, and the game, he will hopefully have more time to focus on the manga. The last few chapters focusing on the other characters was really nice. Definitely eager to see where it goes next.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 15, 2018, 06:54:44 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #12 (February 13th, 2018):
Haikyu!! (Cover, Lead CP)
1. One Piece
2. Dr. Stone
3. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
4. The Disastrous Life of Saiki K
The Promised Neverland (CP)
5. We Never Learn
6. Black Clover
Hakaku no Yachin (One Shot)
7. My Hero Academia
8. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
Bozebeats (Not Ranked)
Hinomaru Zumou (CP)
Act-Age (Not Ranked)
Hunter x Hunter (Not Ranked)
9. Gintama
10. Spring Weapon Number One
11. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Spring
12. Robot x Laserbeam
13. Golem Hearts (END)
14. Full Drive (END)
Tomatoy Lycopene

Next week Black Clover gets the cover and both Saiki and Boruto get color pages. There doesn't seem to be any new or surprising info in this issue just as the rankings are about what you would expect. This is the sixth week for Bozebeats and the fifth for Act Age. We should be learning where they rank in the next few weeks. Will be interesting to see considering the reaction to the last round was not too warm.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on February 16, 2018, 01:22:28 AM
Actually, some notable stuff did happen in this issue:

Both Golem Hearts and Full Drive ended. (https://i.imgur.com/2StX2l1.png)

Hirohiko Araki is publishing a new Rohan Kishibe one-shot in the next issue. (https://i.imgur.com/hgo3aNN.jpg)

Also, next week's Saiki CP is being promoted with ""Climax of Oshimai Travel arc"".  "Oshimai" has a secondary meaning of "end", which seems to coincide with the recent speculation that the manga is ending.
     

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 16, 2018, 06:43:40 PM
Looks like people decided to wait hours later to update everything! Strange that both Full Drive and Golem Hearts ended at the same time especially if Gintama is almost done Saiki is also ending. That's a lot of series at once. Especially since we just recently got two new series.

I guess this means the current season of Saiki will most likely cover the ending.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 22, 2018, 01:02:01 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #13 (February 20th, 2018):
Black Clover (Cover/Lead CP)
1. Dr. Stone
2. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
3. We Never Learn
4. My Hero Academia
5. The Promised Neverland
6. Haikyu!!
Hunter x Hunter (Not Ranked)
The Disastrous Life of Saiki K (CP, 26p, END)
Act-Age (Not Ranked)
Bozebeats (Not Ranked)
Kishibe Rohan wa Ugokanai (Oneshot by Hirohiko Araki, CP)
7. Spring Weapon No. 1
Boruto (CP)
8. Hinomaru Zumo
9. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma
10. Gintama
11. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
12. Robot x Laserbeam
Tomatoy Lycopene

Saiki ended! I guess that means the anime will cover the ending. Next week Black Clover and KnY get color pages, but there will be three new series over the next few weeks. Unfortunately, still no World Trigger. Robot x Laserbeam being so low doesn't really surprise me. It sells well enough, but it doesn't appear to be ranking too well and it's not a very exciting read. Yuuna isn't in any danger since it has an anime coming up, too. In a related bit of news, Food Wars sales are beginning to dip. I'm beginning to think it won't last long beyond the current arc after all, but it isn't like there is anything to replace it with. I just think they will begin to start heading to whatever endgame they have in mind. Meanwhile, Gintama is still teasing the ending everyone is waiting for. A bit more of an exciting week than usual.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 22, 2018, 02:50:49 PM
With RXL, I think it managed to start out on the right foot, but the time-skip really killed any momentum that it had built up. While I can respect that Tadatoshi took a risk to try something different, doing such a big time-skip so soon was a mistake as it erases the growing connection that readers start to develop with the core characters during the early arcs of the story, and resets everything to where they are far more skilled but they feel completely distant and unrelatable by that point. Both Baby Steps and Hinomaru Zumou do a far better job of naturally progressing their characters to the professional world stage over time, IMO.

As for Food Wars, I already just posted about my issues with it a couple of weeks ago, and it looks like Japanese readers pretty much agree. We've been stuck with a terribly written villain like Azami for over 100 chapters now, all of the core aspects of what made the series interesting in the first place have been done away with, and the whole Rebels Vs. The Evil Council of Food Nazis Central ordeal in the RdC arc has been so painfully boring that it feels like a chore to read from week-to-week at this point. In all honesty the only reason that I still haven't dropped it at this point is that it at least looks like the author is aware enough of the negative reaction to this arc to try and wrap it up as quickly as possible.

The manga that I've been enjoying up until now, though, have all remained to be on their A-game, including The Promised Neverland, My Hero Academia, One Piece, and Dr. Stone. I'd include Hinomaru Zumou, but unfortunately nothing past the end of part 1 has been translated into English yet, and as for HXH, I'm actually waiting for the current run of chapters to end so that I can read them all in one-shot.

However, the one manga I didn't mention with the others is Kimetsu no Yaiba, not because it's not great, but because it has gotten so good that it kind of shot over my top two from last year and is easily my favorite thing currently running in Weekly Jump. I'm absolutely loving how it has mastered the art of telling a conventional story in an unconventional way in regard to a mix of its various blends of different tones that flow so well together, it's unique art-style, and it's expert pacing. It's really compelling stuff, IMO.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on February 22, 2018, 03:26:53 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 22, 2018, 01:02:01 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #13 (February 20th, 2018):
Black Clover (Cover/Lead CP)
1. Dr. Stone
2. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
3. We Never Learn
4. My Hero Academia
5. The Promised Neverland
6. Haikyu!!
Hunter x Hunter (Not Ranked)
The Disastrous Life of Saiki K (CP, 26p, END)
Act-Age (Not Ranked)
Bozebeats (Not Ranked)
Kishibe Rohan wa Ugokanai (Oneshot by Hirohiko Araki, CP)
7. Spring Weapon No. 1
Boruto (CP)
8. Hinomaru Zumo
9. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma
10. Gintama
11. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
12. Robot x Laserbeam
Tomatoy Lycopene

Here are the details of the new serialization round: (https://twitter.com/YonkouProd/status/966597526156492800)
Quote
Issue 14: Jujutsu Kaisen (Magic Battle Rounds) by Gege Akitami.
Issue 15: Noah's Notes by Haruto Ikezawa
Issue 16: Ziga-Ziga by Rokuro Sano and Kentaro Hidano

While the regular Saiki manga is ending, it seems that it will still be running as a 4-koma manga in the magazine for a while longer.
(https://mangahelpers.com/forum/posts/4718458/)
Also, there's a lot of speculation that Spring Weapon will end in the next issue since the #13's chapter is called "Graduation" and the editor's note for the next chapter is "An abrubt goodbye...".
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 22, 2018, 07:01:39 PM
Spring Weapon ending as well would be a surprise wince it hung on so long, but I guess it never really took off. However, if it ends then that will be yet another gag manga ending. I heard some speculation that Saiki is going 4-koma to take over for Lycopene too, which sounds doubtful, but considering everything else going on maybe it isn't so out there.

It feels like they're shaking things up due to sales reaction. From what I've seen, it looks like One Piece, MHA, HxH, and The Promised Neverland are the high sellers that stick around the same of increase, and Haikyu, while still their highest behind OP and HxH, has begun to dip as has Food Wars. I could factor this up to digital sales, but that wouldn't explain other series like the early ones keeping up their sales. Also, Dr. Stone, Kimetsu no Yaiba, and We Never Learn appear to be increasing with each new volume. I suspect they'l be around for awhile with KnY clearly on the verge of breakout, but really needing that anime to give it the shot in the arm it needs. Hinomaru and Yuuna are getting anime, which is just as well as it looks like they're selling about as much as ever and are no longer growing. Saiki ended and Gintama is almost done. Black Clover doesn't appear to be getting much boost from the anime, and RxL and SW9 have stalled.

I'm not sure about the two new series yet, but I'm not positive about either. Bozebeats has great art, but the writing is fairly flat. Act Age is a good concept well done, but it feels like something that would do better in Sunday.

But I do agree about Food Wars. I'm mostly reading to see the recipes and character interaction now. The whole Azami plot has taken up way too much time and needs to wrap up.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 23, 2018, 10:11:14 AM
I'm honestly amused by all of the Black Clover fans who are somehow angry that this current arc is so generic and cliche and a rip-off of the Hokage and Orochimaru fight from Naruto.

This WHOLE ENTIRE SERIES has been nothing but uninspired shonen tropes without much of any substance from the beginning. I'm not sure why some people are acting like only now, at this specific point, is when it has gone too far in its lazy story-telling.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on February 23, 2018, 11:19:55 AM
This whole fight was so incredibly predictable and cliched, but that's been Black Clover the whole time. The reason it's not a bigger hit is because most of us have read this already. We know where it's going, and there aren't any wrinkles happening to keep it fresh. I'd be interested to see if Tabata's new editor will push him more because arcs like this aren't going to help in growing sales.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on February 23, 2018, 11:41:23 AM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 22, 2018, 07:01:39 PM
Spring Weapon ending as well would be a surprise wince it hung on so long, but I guess it never really took off. However, if it ends then that will be yet another gag manga ending. I heard some speculation that Saiki is going 4-koma to take over for Lycopene too, which sounds doubtful, but considering everything else going on maybe it isn't so out there.

It feels like they're shaking things up due to sales reaction. From what I've seen, it looks like One Piece, MHA, HxH, and The Promised Neverland are the high sellers that stick around the same of increase, and Haikyu, while still their highest behind OP and HxH, has begun to dip as has Food Wars. I could factor this up to digital sales, but that wouldn't explain other series like the early ones keeping up their sales. Also, Dr. Stone, Kimetsu no Yaiba, and We Never Learn appear to be increasing with each new volume. I suspect they'l be around for awhile with KnY clearly on the verge of breakout, but really needing that anime to give it the shot in the arm it needs. Hinomaru and Yuuna are getting anime, which is just as well as it looks like they're selling about as much as ever and are no longer growing. Saiki ended and Gintama is almost done. Black Clover doesn't appear to be getting much boost from the anime, and RxL and SW9 have stalled.

I'm somewhat doubtful that the Saiki 4-koma is an attempt to replace Lycopene since its 1st volume sales were pretty decent and Jump's short-form gag manga in general don't have high sales expectations.  It feels more like something Asou wanted to do of his own accord, though I'm not sure how long he plans to work on it.  Black Clover got a fairly big boost from its anime, but I'm not sure if it necessarily was as huge as Jump was expecting it to be.  Honestly, I wouldn't be surprised if the series ends once it gets around the 20-volume mark.   RxL's sales are pretty good for a new series, but the likelihood of its sales plateauing sooner than Dr. Stone or We Never Learn is very much a concern.  Fujimaki's name recognition can only push sales so much, but I think Jump is trying to rely on that until the series is ready for an anime.  I'm still enjoying the manga, but I somewhat agree with EK that the time-skip has hurt the series' overall momentum. 

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 22, 2018, 07:01:39 PM
I'm not sure about the two new series yet, but I'm not positive about either. Bozebeats has great art, but the writing is fairly flat. Act Age is a good concept well done, but it feels like something that would do better in Sunday.

I still need to read Bozebeats but Act-Age really impressed me.  I definitely agree that it feels like something that wouldn't usually be in Jump, but I feel that is to its advantage.  Hopefully, it won't fall apart narratively after its Jump Start chapters like Full Drive and Golem Hearts did.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 01, 2018, 04:00:08 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #14 (February 27th, 2018):
Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover/Lead CP)
1. One Piece
2. The Promised Neverland
Dr. Stone (CP)
3. Haikyu!!
Hunter X Hunter (Not Ranked)
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba (CP)
4. Gintama
5. Black Clover
Act-Age (Not Ranked)
6. My Hero Academia
7. We Never Learn
8. Bozebeats
9. Spring Weapon No.1
Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma (CP)
10. Hinomaru Zumou
11. Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings
12. Robot x Laserbeam
Lyoopene the Tomatoy Poodle


This isn't a good sign for Robot. You don't constantly rate below series like Spring Weapon unless there's a real problem. Yuuna is fine since it has an anime coming and it will certainly be pushed, same with Hinomaru, but Robot really should be doing much better. I really think that time skip hurt it. Bozebeats' first ranking isn't bad, either. I guess we'll see how Act Age fares next week. The next cancellation round is going to be something.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 02, 2018, 09:00:00 AM
Oof. I hope Robo rebounds - I quite enjoyed the match with Dorian. And I'm crossing my fingers for a good first ranking for Act-Age next week.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 02, 2018, 10:44:23 AM
Crunchyroll just added a lot of new simulpubs (http://all-comic.com/2018/crunchyroll-add-8-new-kodansha-comics-simulpubs/), including To Your Eternity! I recently stopped buying the new chapters off of Comixology since I wanted to buy the volumes instead, so I'm glad to have another way to keep up with the series every week without additional expense.

Also, despite what was previously reported, the backlog chapters for most of the series Crunchyroll is simulpublishing are still available to read for now, so that gives me more time to catch up on the stuff I fell behind on like Ajin and Space Brothers before they decide to remove them for real.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 04, 2018, 01:18:21 PM
Spring Weapon No. 1 is ending. (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-03-04/spring-weapon-no-01-manga-ends-in-shonen-jump/.128526)

What in the heck is going on? This is a crazy amount of series ending.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on March 04, 2018, 02:26:45 PM
Spring Weapon ending isn't too surprising considering that it hasn't done particularly well despite an editorial push.  It's weird that a 4th series has ended so soon when the new serialization round is only 3 series, but maybe it's preparation for a new round when both HxH goes back on hiatus and Gintama finally ends.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 04, 2018, 02:32:08 PM
I wonder if this will manage to keep RXL safe for at least a little while longer.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on March 05, 2018, 04:25:50 PM
Shuichi Asou mentioned in the new issue of Jump that the purpose of the Saiki 4-koma series is to fill the remaining pages of the final volume of the manga. (https://www.reddit.com/r/manga/comments/824cyj/news_about_saiki_on_jump_magazine_if_anyone_can/)

Since volume 25 is coming out in April, the final volume should be out by July at the latest, so it won't be around for more than a few months.  The "chapters" are only a single page as well, which is probably why they aren't being listed in the ToC.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 06, 2018, 08:09:10 PM
Kazuhiro Fujita has an important announcement in the next Shonen Sunday. (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-03-06/ushio-and-tora-fujita-teases-important-announcement/.128632)

Hopefully a Karakuri Circus or Souboutei anime is on the horizon.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 07, 2018, 11:04:37 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #15 (March 6th, 2018):
Noah's Notes (Cover/Lead CP)
1. One Piece
2. Promised Neverland
Black Clover (CP)
3. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
4. My Hero Academia
5. Dr. Stone
6. Haikyu!!
Jujutsu Kaisen (CP)
7. Act-Age
8. Gintama
We Never Learn (CP)
Hunter X Hunter (Not Ranked)
9. Bozebeats
10. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
11. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma
12. Hinomaru Zumou
13. Robot X Laserbeam
Lycopene the Tomatoy Poodle

That's a very good first rating for Act-Age considering that unlike Bozebeats, it's not a battle or action series. Bozebeats is doing alright so far, but Robot is definitely not. I wasn't aware that Noah's Notes was by the creator of Mononofu so I am definitely interested in reading that one. Mononofu was surprisingly good, but had bad luck to be serialized at a tough time. As for Jujutsu Kaisen... eh. The art style looks like it would fit a delinquent manga better. This story so far reminds me a heck of a lot of Amalgam of Distortion only with a less interesting twist. I hope it improves, but it's looking weak so far. Next week the third and last series, Ziga, gets the cover.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 08, 2018, 11:22:54 AM
Here's my prediction on what could possibly happen with RXL. The most recent chapters have initiated a new tournament arc that if seen through, could be quite lengthy. At the very least this tells me that it's not yet set in stone whether the series will be cancelled or not. More than likely the editorial staff is just waiting to see how this next match plays out with Jump readers. If the rankings pick up a bit then RXL could potentially save itself from an early cancellation. However, if it stays among the bottom three then it's a goner for sure within the next few weeks. The likelihood of it recovering is slim since, regardless of what Tadatoshi does, there are likely a lot less people reading it and thus even if it improves it might not reach enough readers who skip it every week in order to elevate its ranking. However, here's still hoping that he can pull off a miracle somehow. The manga still has potential to it, IMO, but some poor writing decisions have really cost it dearly as of late.

As for Shokugeki no Soma, the recent developments make it a lot harder to determine whether it will be ending after this arc or not. One would think that if this is meant to be the final battle, the author would put Soma in the spotlight. However, Erina looks to be getting to head off the conflict with Soma serving as support. That makes sense since this is basically her story arc more than any other character's, but then you'd figure that we'd get at least another arc or two after this which focus on the main character trying to achieve his goal of getting the first seat. Or, if they are actually trying to keep this manga going for a few more years (which is doubtful, but still possible) they might end up going the route of the international tournament which was hinted at earlier on in the series, especially since there really wouldn't be too many other students who could significantly challenge the core characters after this arc ends (assuming that they win, which they kind of have to given the set-up).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on March 08, 2018, 11:42:00 AM
Hinomaru Sumo, Noah's Notes and Haikyu will be getting color pages in issue 16.  There will also be a key visual for Hinomaru's anime! (https://twitter.com/yonkouprod/status/971681727440498688?s=21)

On the topic of RxL, I'm not sure what's going to happen to it.  While it's at the bottom of the ToC, its volume sales are still quite good and it seems like Fujimaki has long-term plans for the series.  There is a possibility of it moving to Jump+, but I guess we'll have to wait and see.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 08, 2018, 12:03:50 PM
I've been saying that I think there will be two more arcs after this one in Food Wars for a year, and I still think that may be the case. I don't think this will be the last one because it still sells the fourth or fifth best in Jump behind OP, HxH, Haikyu and MHA. They can get more mileage out of it yet, but I do think it has passed its peak popularity.

RxL is selling well but it's not showing any growth, and I think that's what Jump is most worried about. Its rankings are also not helping. Hinomaru and Yuuna are getting anime so they're safe for at least a year, same with Black Clover. We Never Learn is quickly becoming the token SOL series in the magazine. Promised Neverland, KnY, and Dr. Stone, are still growing and on the verge of being huge. OP, MHA, and Haikyu! are giant hits that the magazine needs badly right now. Gintama is about to end.

The only series that are really in danger are the new series (this is actually not the best time for them to start) and RxL. I think RxL will be safe as long as Gintama ends soon, or the new series really bomb. Oh, and if World Trigger doesn't return.

But it's not in a good position.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 08, 2018, 03:01:20 PM
So, while I never put all that much stock into the idea of the big three battle shonen series, I think that I can safely say what I personally consider to be this generation's equivalents of it. Now, yes, One Piece is still going, but it feels more like a prevailing remnant of an older generation than a fresh new thing still yet to reach its peak in popularity. It has already hit its peak a long time ago, in that regard. Just counting the long-runners from this decade, I'd say that My Hero Academia has taken One Piece's role as the pillar series for the current young generation of readers that also has the critical acclaim to back it up; Black Clover replaces Naruto just with Wizards in place of Ninjas; and Kimetsu no yaiba is the new Bleach what with the Samurai vibe and fighting demonic enemies going for both, except with better writing to actually give it a lot more substance to work with.

All three are massively popular in Japan and both MHA and BC sell well over here, and I'm sure that KnY could potentially see similar success if it ever lands a good anime adaptation that gets localized over here.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 08, 2018, 04:11:46 PM
KnY really needs that anime to push it over the edge. It's so close. But at this rate its guaranteed to get one. I'm still hoping MAPPA is the one to grab it. They would be the perfect fit, especially if they use the same team as Ushio & Tora.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 08, 2018, 04:51:11 PM
MAPPA would be a good fit for sure. Part of me wishes that Studio Bones would get it since they've proven to be able to handle animating unique art styles (Mob Psycho 100 being a prime example), but what with their approach of taking on just a few series at a time (for the better, of course), I doubt that they'd go for another series right now when they already have enough stuff planned out on their schedule.

In any case, though, capturing the unique style of the manga's artwork will be a challenge regardless of which studio gets KnY. Just....PLEASE keep it away from Toei and Pierrot....
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 08, 2018, 08:10:16 PM
I think Pierrot has their hands full with Boruto and Black Clover right now, but Toei? It is possible since they got World Trigger... But I hope not.

I just want a studio that can give it a good 25 episode season to start with. I think you could get to the end of Spider Mountain and the short recovery period after that with that length. It's a good place to end a season.

What it doesn't need is an ongoing series with tons of filler, haphazard animation, and sluggish pacing.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 12, 2018, 06:10:25 PM
Noah's Notes was really good. I really hope this has a chance to stick around.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 14, 2018, 05:36:59 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #16 (March 13th, 2018):
Ziga (Cover, Lead CP, New Series)
1. The Promised Neverland
2. One Piece
Haikyu!! (CP)
3. Black Clover
4. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma
5. Dr. Stone
6. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
Noah's Notes (CP)
7. We Never Learn
8. My Hero Academia
Hinomaru Zumou (CP)
Jujutsu Kaisen (Not Ranked)
9. Act-Age
Hunter x Hunter (Not Ranked)
10. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
11. Robot x Laserbeam
12. Bozebeats
Lycopene The Tomatoy Poodle

Bozebeats is not a good drop off for the second week. If it doesn't raise next week then it's pretty much dead. As I said before, this is not the best time for new series to be starting. Every other series is about the same give or take a few spots. Gintama was absent this week and My Hero Academia gets the cover next week. There isn't much else to talk about here.

Truth be told, I just want a KnY anime announcement already.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on March 20, 2018, 02:12:36 AM
Spoiler
(https://i.imgur.com/LxFkLr0.jpg)
"Nice to meet you. Farnese, Schierke, Ivarela. 'Elaine' has been taken care of for a long time."
[close]
About time, Miura.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 21, 2018, 11:18:48 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #17 (March 20th, 2018):
My Hero Academia (Cover/Lead CP)
1. Dr. Stone
2. One Piece
3. Haikyu!!
4. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
The Promised Neverland (CP)
5. We Never Learn
Jujutsu Kaisen (Not Ranked)
6. Gintama
Noah's Notes (Not Ranked)
7. Black Clover
Ziga (CP)
8. Act-Age
9. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma
Boruto (CP)
Hunter x Hunter (Not Ranked)
10. Hinomaru Zumou
11. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
12. Robot x Laserbeam
13. Bozebeats
Lycopene The Tomatoy Poodle


Next week One Piece gets the cover and Food Wars, We Never Learn, and Robot get color pages. Not a very exciting week, but it's pretty obvious at this point that Bozebeats is dead. I'm pretty sure the Yuuna and Hinomaru rankings don't matter at all at this point with anime on the way. Unless Gintama finally decides to end, it looks like Bozebeats and one of the new series will be axed next.

Speaking of the new series, I thought both Noah's Notes and Ziga were strong starts. I'm not sure how likely they are to stick around with how tight a ship Jump is being run as these days, though. Still, I am interested to see where they're going next.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 29, 2018, 05:19:26 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #18 (March 27th, 2018):
One Piece (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Dr. Stone
2. Promised Neverland
3. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
4. Black Clover
We Never Learn (CP)
Jujutsu Kaisen (Not Ranked)
5. Gintama
Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma (CP)
6. Haikyu
7. My Hero Academia
Noah's Notes (Not Ranked)
Ziga (Not Ranked)
Hunter X Hunter (Not Ranked)
8. Hinomaru Zumo
Robot X Laserbeam (CP)
9. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Spring
10. Act Age
11. Bozebeats
Tomatoy Lycopene

HxH goes back on hiatus after this chapter. Robot got a CP for its one year anniversary. Still no word on Gintama's ending. Otherwise the song remains the same. I'm really curious to see how the new three series will do. We still have time to wait for that, unfortunately. Haikyu gets the cover next week and Yuna and Hinomaru get color pages.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on April 03, 2018, 08:04:32 PM
Shinobu Ohtaka is debuting her new manga in Weekly Shonen Magazine on May 30th! (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-04-03/magi-creator-shinobu-ohtaka-to-launch-orient-manga/.129892)

It's interesting that she's moving to Kodansha, but hey it gives it a better chance of being picked up in the US.  In any case, as someone who loved Magi, I'm hyped to see what she does next!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 04, 2018, 11:55:58 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #19 (April 3rd, 2018):
Haikyu! (Cover, Lead CP)
1. The Promised Neverland
2. Black Clover
Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs (CP)
3. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
4. Dr. Stone
Inishie no Horobi-mon (CP, One Shot)
5. We Never Learn
Ziga (Not Ranked)
Jujutsu Kaisen (Not Ranked)
6. My Hero Academia
Noah's Notes (Not Ranked)
7. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
8. Gintama
Hinomaru Zumou (CP)
9. Act-Age
10. Robot×Laserbeam
11. Bozebeats
Tomatoy Lycopene


One Piece be off and HxH is back on hiatus. It doesn't look like the last round's new series are performing all too well. Act-Age might hold on, but it's safe to say that Bozebeats is definitely out. The three new series, however, are the ones I'm interested in seeing the rankings of. Surely at least one of them has to do decently. Everything else is the same as usual.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 11, 2018, 03:35:04 PM
Souboutei is nearing the end. (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-04-11/ushio-and-tora-kazuhiro-fujita-close-to-ending-sou-bou-tei-kowasu-beshi-manga/.130217) This is the final arc and there are one or two mountains left to climb before the end.

Volume seven just came out which probably means I'm going to guess this series is going to be a 10-12 volume series and easily his shortest.

And it's still not freaking licensed.  ::)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 11, 2018, 03:48:15 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #20 (April 10th, 2018):
Dr. Stone (Cover, Lead CP)
1. One Piece
2. The Promised Neverland
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba (CP)
3. We Never Learn
4. Haikyu!
Donkyu! (CP, One Shot)
5. Black Clover
Jujutsu Kaisen (Not Ranked)
6. Gintama
7. My Hero Academia
Ziga (Not Ranked)
Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs (CP)
Noah's Notes (Not Ranked)
8. Hinomaru Zumou
9. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
10. Robot x Laserbeam
11. Act-Age
12. Bozebeats
Tomatoy Lycopene

About the same as usual. Not good for Act-Age to drop even lower now. But the bottom three are practically interchangeable at this point. I'm not thinking any of them are going to make it. At this point I just want to see how the new series will do. It's not looking good at this point.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on April 12, 2018, 05:34:45 PM
Bozebeats apparently ends in issue 20. (https://twitter.com/MangaMagJapon/status/984360734384504833)

My guess is that Act Age will end in the next few weeks, if this is the case.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 13, 2018, 10:50:28 AM
There's just nothing else to cancel. Unless Gintama finally ends, I don't think it has a chance.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 19, 2018, 11:05:52 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #21/22 (April 17th/24th 2018):
One Piece (Lead CP)
1. Haikyu!
2. Dr. Stone
3. We Never Learn
4. My Hero Academia
Promised Neverland (CP)
5. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
6. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma
Build King (CP, One Shot)
Jujutsu Kaisen (Not Ranked)
Noah's Notes (Not Ranked)
Black Clover (CP)
Ziga (Not Ranked)
7. Gintama
8. Hinomaru Zumou
9. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
10. Act-Age
11. Robot x Laserbeam
Tomatoy Lycopene


With Bozebeats gone, Robot is back to the bottom again. No word on if Act-Age ended, but if it did its strange that it's still not at the bottom. Next week One Piece gets the cover,  Hinomaru gets color page, and We Never Learn gets the color page. It's weird that they keep clumping all three of the new series together like that. It makes it too easy for readers to skip over if they really want to. Anyway, this week is pretty expected.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on April 23, 2018, 04:36:24 AM
Rurouni Kenshin: Hokkaido Arc is resuming in June. (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-04-23/rurouni-kenshin-hokkaido-arc-manga-resumes-in-june/.130726)

That was...........fast.  I'm honestly wondering if Viz is still going to simulpub it after everything that's happened.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: gunswordfist on April 23, 2018, 06:43:04 PM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on April 23, 2018, 04:36:24 AM
Rurouni Kenshin: Hokkaido Arc is resuming in June. (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-04-23/rurouni-kenshin-hokkaido-arc-manga-resumes-in-june/.130726)

That was...........fast.  I'm honestly wondering if Viz is still going to simulpub it after everything that's happened.
I am so disgusted.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on May 01, 2018, 12:12:25 AM
Spark never posted this, so I guess I'll do it:

Shounen Jump Issue 23:

Hinomaru Zumou (Lead CP)
1. Yakusoku no Neverland
2. One Piece (Cover)
3. Black Clover
Boku-tachi wa Benkyou ga Dekinai (CP, Popularity Poll Results)
4. Kimetsu no Yaiba
5. Haikyuu!!
Rika no Jikan (CP, One Shot)
Ziga (Not Ranked)
Noah's Notes (Not Ranked)
6. Gintama
7. Boku no Hero Academia
Boruto (CP)
8. Jujutsu Kaisen
9. Act-Age
10. Robot x Laserbeam
11. Shokugeki no Souma
12. Yuragi-sou no Yuuna-san
Tomatoypoo no Lycopene

Shounen Jump Issue 24:
New Series: Momiji no Kisetsu (by Satojou Masayoshi)

Shounen Jump Issue 25:
New Series: Kimi wo Shinrayku Seyo! (by Inaoka Kazusa)

I'm surprised to see the new serialization round so soon.  I don't think anything else will get cancelled in the near future since we're down to 17 regular series (minus Boruto), so I'm curious how these will perform.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 09, 2018, 11:35:27 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #24 (May 8th 2018):
Momiji no Kisetsu (Cover, Lead CP, New Series)
1. Promised Neverland
2. One Piece
Dr. Stone (CP)
3. Gintama
4. We Never Learn
Haikyu!! (CP)
5. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
6. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
7. Black Clover
8. My Hero Academia
9. Noah's Notes
10. Jujutsu Kaisen
11. Hinomaru Zumou
Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs (CP)
Ziga (Not Ranked)
12. Robot X Laserbeam
13. Act-Age
Tomatoy Lycopene


Bad sign for Act-Age, though its sales were slightly higher than other bombs, so maybe it'll get moved to Jump+. I'm surprised Kaisen didn't drop to last place, though. It's clearly the weakest series in the magazine. Not the best start for Noah's Notes, either, but it could be worse. Next week we see where Ziga starts off. At this point I'm wondering if Gintama is ever going to end. It's sales are down and the anime is supposed to cover the ending, so it should be finished. Yet it just keeps going. Weird. I guess we'll see where all three new series stand next week. Should be interesting.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 10, 2018, 11:21:40 AM
I honestly couldn't get into Noah's Notes, myself, and it looks like Japanese readers more or less feel the same way.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on May 11, 2018, 12:37:06 AM
Currently, Gintama is basically in a very long epilogue.  It's definitely still ending, but Sorachi is taking his time, and I don't think Jump has much desire to rush him.  The second Gintama live-action film debuts in August, so I'm expecting it to end around the time that it premieres.

As a fan of Ikezawa, I'm still holding out hope that Noah's Notes will be successful.  It's position this week isn't too bad, so I guess we'll see if it can creep up higher in the coming weeks.  As far as other series go, I have no idea what's going to happen to Robot x Laserbeam and Act-Age.  Both are selling fine, so both of them moving to Jump+ may very well happen.

On another note, I'm looking forward to reading Momiji no Kisetsu since I'm a sucker for a good competitive board game manga.  :sweat:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 17, 2018, 12:26:19 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #25 (May 15th 2018):
Kimi wo Shinryaku Seyo! (Cover, Lead CP, New Series)
1. Haikyu!!
2. Dr. Stone
3. The Promised Neverland
4. My Hero Academia
5. Black Clover
Momiji no Kisetsu (CP)
6. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
7. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
Count Over (CP, One Shot)
8. We Never Learn
9. Act-Age
10. Gintama
11. Hinomaru Zumou
12. Jujutsu Kaisen
13. Noah's Notes
14. Robot X Laserbeam
15. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
16. Ziga
Tomatoy Lycopene


No One Piece this week. Have to say I'm shocked Ziga is the lowest rated of the newest series, and is already dead. Jujutsu Kaisen doing the best of the three is entirely mystifying to me since it is nowhere near their quality in art or plotting. At the same time that is a huge revival for Act-Age. On another note, the sales for Robot X Laserbeam are currently falling and it's rankings here are showing no growth. I'm going to guess that he's been told to just head for the ending at this point. Next week Promised Neverland gets the cover and an important announcement that will almost certainly be for an anime. Food Wars also gets a color page, probably to signal the end of this very drawn out arc.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 17, 2018, 12:53:41 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if we get an announcement that Food Wars will be ending soon. Seeing how this arc ended, I'm not sure where the story could go from here since the top two seats have been defeated and there aren't many people left who could challenge Soma in a big way aside from Erina herself, and that alone is not enough to carry a story. Unless the author plans to do something akin to Hinomaru Zumou and time-skip past the High School stage (which I doubt), there isn't really much left to cover and these last few chapters in particular have a sense of finality to them. At any rate, it might as well end since it's really hard to take this manga seriously anymore.

As for One Piece, as long as this most recent arc was, I really enjoyed it, and I'm really looking forward to the long-awaited Reverie to finally go down.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on May 23, 2018, 11:18:32 PM
New Jump ToC is out:

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #26 (May 22nd 2018):
The Promised Neverland (Cover, Lead CP)
1. One Piece
2. Dr. Stone
3. We Never Learn
4. My Hero Academia
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba (CP)
5. Haikyu!!
6. Gintama
Kimi wo Shinryaku Seyo! (CP)
Momiji no Kisetsu (Not Ranked)
7. Black Clover
Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma (CP)
8. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
9. Jujutsu Kaisen
10. Noah's Notes
11. Act-Age
12. Hinomaru Zumou
13. Ziga
14. Robot×Laserbeam
Tomatoy Lycopene

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #27 (May 29th 2018):
Cover, Lead CP: Kimetsu no Yaiba

Considering that recently registered "Kimetsu" website domain, I wouldn't be surprised if we finally get an anime announcement for KnY when it has the cover next week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 24, 2018, 12:56:06 AM
This issue just revealed the Promised Neverland anime, so I'm hoping the Kimetsu one will be the same for the next issue. Just crossing my fingers that it's a good studio.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on May 27, 2018, 03:39:23 PM
Lycopene ended its run in WSJ in issue 26, and will continue in Jump+ starting in July. (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-05-27/lycopene-the-tomatoy-poodle-manga-moves-to-jump-website-app/.132060)

Also, Kimetsu no Yaiba is confirmed to have a "Super Important Announcement" in the next issue (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2018-05-27/demon-slayer-kimetsu-no-yaiba-manga-has-super-important-announcement-on-june-4/.132057)

Lycopene leaving the magazine is a bit of a surprise.  I wonder if WSJ is going to bring in a new short-form gag manga in the next serialization round or if they're done with the format.  Also the stench of an anime announcement for KnY is intensifying.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 30, 2018, 01:57:52 PM
Kimetsu no Yaiba is getting an anime. (https://twitter.com/YonkouProd/status/1001739872388894720) Details to come.

It's about time. I'm gonna enjoy this and hope it gts the full 24 episode season treatment.

Now to hope Toei and Pierrot stay far away.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on May 30, 2018, 02:38:32 PM
Based on the kimetsu.com domain registration, the anime appears to be an Aniplex production, so Toei and Pierrot are likely to be off the table.  I hope it turns out well, and provides the series the attention it deserves outside Japan.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on May 30, 2018, 02:55:15 PM
Oricon's list for the Top 10 best selling manga of the first half of 2018 is out: (http://www.mangamag.fr/actualite/actualite-manga/top-10-des-ventes-de-mangas-au-japon-pour-le-1er-semestre-2018-par-series/)

Quote
1. One Piece                       3.110.049
2. Attack on Titan               2.997.049
3. Seven Deadly Sins          2.769.915
4. Haikyu!                          2.523.071
5. My Hero Academia          2.516.768
6. Kingdom                        2.516.063
7. Black Clover                    2.033.277
8. The Promised Neverland   1.970.504
9. Tokyo Ghoul Re               1.962.722
10. One-Punch Man             1.658.054
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 30, 2018, 03:37:24 PM
If they handle this right it could be the next big hit for Shonen Jump in the anime market for battle series.

I really do hope that it can be handled by a team of animators who are capable of capturing the manga's unique art style, though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 30, 2018, 04:19:24 PM
Aniplex is worrying if you want to buy it in the future, but as long as Pierrot and Toei aren't anywhere near it then I'm good. On the other hand, I heard Ufotable is working on a Shuiesha anime, so this might be it. They do have a style that could work with the series, though the combat is very visceral and up close and personal with reliance on little details. Not realy sure who would be best with that but it sure wouldn't be Pierrot or Toei.

The series needs a good anime. It's so very close to being a hit, and this is the push it needs to break into the mainstream. After OP and MHA, it's got the most potential to really crack the market as an action series.

And I just realized that with this every older series currently running in Jump is getting or has an anime. No Psyren situation this time. Looks like they're learning to really go all out with it. Here's hoping Sunday remembers this with Souboutei after Karakuri Circus comes out.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on May 30, 2018, 10:53:35 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 30, 2018, 04:19:24 PM
Aniplex is worrying if you want to buy it in the future, but as long as Pierrot and Toei aren't anywhere near it then I'm good. On the other hand, I heard Ufotable is working on a Shuiesha anime, so this might be it. They do have a style that could work with the series, though the combat is very visceral and up close and personal with reliance on little details. Not realy sure who would be best with that but it sure wouldn't be Pierrot or Toei.

Confirmation that Spark can predict the future! (https://twitter.com/YonkouProd/status/1002033641029947392)  :huh:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 31, 2018, 11:27:53 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #27 (May 29th 2018):
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba (Cover, Lead CP, Anime Announcement)
1. One Piece
2. Dr. Stone
3. We Never Learn
4. Haikyu!!
5. Black Clover
The Promised Neverland (CP)
6. Gintama
7. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
Momiji no Kisetsu (Not Ranked)
Boruto (CP)
8. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
Kimi wo Shinryaku Seyo! (Not Ranked)
9. My Hero Academia
10. Hinomaru Zumou
11. Act-Age
12. Noah's Notes
13. Jujutsu Kaisen
14. Robot X Laserbeam
15. Ziga


Next week MHA gets the cover but the color pages are all reserved for specials and one shots. That should give a clearer picture of the real general rankings. Shame about Ziga not taking off at all, but RxL still lingers at the bottom and Jujutsu Kaisen finally drops under Noah's Notes. It doesn't look like any of the newer ones are going to be hits. I've heard Act-Age has showed signs of ending despite it clinging to life so who knows at this point. But the big new is the KnY anime announcement! It's been a long time coming and is well deserved. I'm definitely hyped for that.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 06, 2018, 10:13:59 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #28 (June 5th 2018):
My Hero Academia (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
2. One Piece
3. Dr. Stone
4. Haikyu!!
5. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
6. We Never Learn
Momiji no Kisetsu (Not Ranked)
World Leader Mamoru (CP, One Shot)
7. Black Clover
Kimi wo Shinyarku Seyo! (Not Ranked)
8. Act-Age
9. The Promised Neverland
10. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
Shinmai Nitta-ism (CP, Special Chapter)
Mukidashi no Hakuchou (CP, Special Chapter)
11. Gintama
12. Hinomaru Zumou
13. Jujutsu Kaisen
14. Noah's Notes
15. Robot X Laserbeam
16. Ziga

That random TPN dip is weird. The series has been on fire recently. Otherwise it looks like Act-Age might be getting into a groove while the other three series aren't looking too hot. Every other series is about where you'd expect it to be except for KnY hitting #1 which is good news, especially considering the recent anime announcement. Robot is still doing really badly, though. I would say the last four series here are the most likely candidates for cancellation aside from the two new ones. Every other series has too much of an advantage, especially with an anime running or on the way. Next week Black Clover gets the cover.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 06, 2018, 10:53:14 PM
I'm actually of the opposite opinion regarding KnY's latest arc. It started out really promising but gets more and more uncharacteristically silly with children going all Rambo on the demons. I'm all for the kids using their genetically enhanced intellect to outwit their enemies, but having them have such easy access to physical violence takes away a big disadvantage that they had which is what really gives the series its charm. Additionally, their strategies don't feel all that satisfying because the demons clearly aren't up to par with some of the previous foes which they had to contend with when it came to pitting their wits against each other.

As for KnY, I'm really glad to see it at number one and in general its high rankings are well-deserved. It has grown to being my favorite currently running WSJ manga (yes, even above One Piece and MHA).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 07, 2018, 04:08:27 PM
I think it was more the demons got sloppy than the kids being the superior force. They were too arrogant and didn't expect reprisal. Their plan almost fell through twice and if it wasn't for Ray and Nameless then they would all be dead now. The last demon standing being able to take all of them all at once is proof of that. But the arc's just about done anyway. I'm more excited to see where it will be leading after this.

I do agree with KnY possibly being the best series in the magazine right now, though. No idea how Gotouge manages to make it such a fun read every week, but I'm definitely looking forward to buying the physical release. This is everything great about shonen in one series.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 07, 2018, 04:44:05 PM
I'm also excited to see where the story goes after this arc. It's just that I'm not a fan of the demons at Goldie Pond. Lewis may be overpowering the kids, but to me that doesn't come off as threatening as someone like Isabella who is constantly outwitting the kids and there is no physical way for any of them to confirm whether they have a leg up on her or not. To me gunning down overconfident demons just isn't as interesting, even if strategy is involved.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 07, 2018, 04:57:40 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 07, 2018, 04:44:05 PM
I'm also excited to see where the story goes after this arc. It's just that I'm not a fan of the demons at Goldie Pond. Lewis may be overpowering the kids, but to me that doesn't come off as threatening as someone like Isabella who is constantly outwitting the kids and there is no physical way for any of them to confirm whether they have a leg up on her or not. To me gunning down overconfident demons just isn't as interesting, even if strategy is involved.
That's fair enough. It is a bit different here than it was in the beginning or even outwitting Nameless in the bunker.

There's still quite a lot left to do so I'm eager to see how they proceed from here.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 13, 2018, 07:25:50 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #29 (June 12th 2018):
Black Clover (Cover, Lead CP)
1. The Promised Neverland
2. One Piece
3. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
4. We Never Learn
Dr. Stone (CP)
5. Jujutsu Kaisen
6. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
Haikyu! (CP)
Momoji no Kisetsu (Not Ranked)
7. My Hero Academia
One Piece in Love (Special Chapter, CP)
Kobi-ni no Kobiyama (Special Chapter, CP)
Invade You (Not Ranked)
8. Act-Age
9. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma
10. Hinomaru Zumou
11. Noah's Notes
12. Gintama
13. Robot X Laserbeam
14. Ziga (END)

Shame about Ziga. I was hoping it would have had a chance to do something new, but it never really got off the ground. I'm also not sure why Jujutsu Kaisen is so high when it was fairly unimpressive from what I've seen. Robot still hovers at the bottom, and just about everything else is what you'd expect. The question is what is going to end next if Ziga ended that fast.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on June 14, 2018, 10:03:03 AM
Two new series are debuting in issues #30 and #31. (https://twitter.com/Spy_0taku/status/1007103119812067328)

Issue #30:
Sougou Jikan Jigyougaisha Daiyou Torishimariyaku Shachou Senzoku Hisho Tanaka Seiji by Keiji Amatsuka

Issue #31:
Alice to Taiyou by Takahide Touno

Seiji seems to be about a guy who quits his job to pursue being a mangaka, while Alice to Taiyou is about singing.

Also Act-age, We Never Learn & Jujutsu Kaisen are getting color pages in issue #30.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 21, 2018, 01:09:39 AM
This hasn't been 100% confirmed yet, but it's interesting enough that I'm going to post it.

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #30 (June 19th 2018):
Sougou Jikan Jigyou Gaisha Daihyou Torishimariyaku Shachou Senzoku Hisho Tanaka Seiji (Cover, Lead CP, New Series)
1. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
2. Dr. Stone
We Never Learn (CP)
3. The Promised Neverland
4. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
Jujutsu Kaisen (CP)
5. Haikyu!!
6. Black Clover
7. My Hero Academia
Watashi no Hero Academia (One Shot)
Momiji no Kisetsu (Not Ranked)
Act-Age (CP)
Kimi wo Shinryaku Seyo! (Not Ranked)
8. Hinomaru Zumou
9. Noah's Notes
10. Gintama
11. Yuuna of the Haunted Hot Springs
12. Ziga (END)
13. Robot X Laserbeam (END)


One Piece is absent. And yes, it looks like Ziga didn't end last week. But the real surprise is Robot ending. Looks like the timeskip didn't help it out at all. Next week Gintama gets a color page and Black Clover gets a one shot and Alice to Taiyou gets the cover. Kind of surprised they waited so long to end their newer series this time. Here's hoping Fujimaki goes back to the drawing board and tries something like his archer one shot again. Haikyu's massive popularity sucks the air out of the room for other sports series. Next week Momiji no Kisetsu's first ranking comes in.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 21, 2018, 09:50:56 AM
It's a shame for RXL, but in a way it managed to still get in a decent 60-chapter run so it managed to get a few volumes in print and still keep Tadatoshi's name relevant as a mangaka. The series had potential, but I feel as though part of its failure is due to how oversaturated and competitive the sports manga market has become, while also succumbing to some of the same issues that plagued the later chapters of Kuroko no Basket (though it never got far enough to completely derail itself like that series did).

Perhaps it might be a good idea for Tadatoshi to take a bit of a break from sports and try out a different genre for a change. He can always come back to sports if he wants, but with how outlandish and over-the-top his stories tend to become, he may as well try his hand at a battle manga or something of the sort. Just food for thought, anyways.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on June 21, 2018, 04:59:11 PM
It's a damn shame RxL couldn't succeed, but I guess the series simply didn't resonate with Japanese readers the same way that Haikyu and Hinomaru have in the long run.  What I'm really curious about is what Viz is planning to do with the open slot they now have in the English magazine.  There's a lot of potential options for them to choose from....
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 28, 2018, 12:45:23 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #31 (June 26th 2018):
Alice to Taiyou (Cover, Lead CP, New Series)
1. One Piece
2. Dr. Stone
3. We Never Learn
4. My Hero Academia
Gintama (CP)
5. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
6. Black Clover
Black Clover SD Asta-kun Mahoutei e no Michi (Special Chapter)
Tanaka Seiji (CP)
7. The Promised Neverland
8. Momiji no Kisetsu
Kimi wo Shinryaku Seyo! (Not Ranked)
9. Act-Age
10. Jujutsu Kaisen
11. Hinomaru Zumou
12. Haikyu!!
13. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma
14. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
15. Noah's Notes

The new series ranked pretty decently. Yuuna gets the cover next week and MHA is taking a week break. Hinomaru, Alice, and Boruto get color pages. I have to say that I'm kind of surprised with the success of some of these new series as I don't really think they did anything better than other series that were canceled far faster, but it is what it is. Kubo has a one-shot coming in issue 33. Expect a lot of freak outs when it does. Nothing else to say otherwise.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 05, 2018, 10:59:59 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #32 (July 3rd 2018):
Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs (Cover, Lead CP, Popularity Poll Results)
1. The Promised Neverland
2. One Piece
3. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
4. Black Clover
Hinomaru Zumou (CP)
5. Dr. Stone
6. We Never Learn
Alice and Taiyou (CP)
Tanaka Seiji (Not Ranked)
7. Momiji no Kisetsu
8. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
Boruto (CP)
9. Haikyu!!
10. Jujutsu Kaisen
11. Kimi wo Shinrayku Seyo!
12. Act-Age
13. Noah's Notes
14. Gintama

Yikes, I don't know what happened to Gintama to put it so low. Maybe it's time to finally end it. MHA is absent this week (on such a tease of a cliffhanger, too!) but just about everything else is where you'd expect it. Next week One Piece gets the cover, Kochikame gets a one-shot, and Dr Stone gets the cover page. It also looks like MHA will be back, thankfully.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 12, 2018, 02:34:47 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #33 (July 10th 2018):
WSJ Cast (Cover)
One Piece (Lead CP)
1. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
2. The Promised Neverland
3. Haikyu!!
4. My Hero Academia
Kochikame (CP, Special Chapter)
5. Jujutsu Kaisen
6. Black Clover
Burn the Witch (CP, One Shot)
Bleach to Boku (One Shot)
7. Act-Age
8. We Never Learn
Tanaka Seiji (Not Ranked)
Dr. Stone (CP)
Alice to Taiyou (Not Ranked)
9. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
10. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
11. Hinomaru Zumou
12. Gintama
13. Noah's Notes
14. Momiji no Kisetsu
15. Kimi wo Shinryaku Seyo!

Okay, the new series dropped pretty quickly. Next week One Piece is lead color again and Food Wars gets a color page. More weird one shots are on the way. Not much surprising here otherwise, though it's good to see Kimetsu no Yaiba at the top. It's been on fire for such a good while now.

Also, the cover is interesting. It has newer authors drawing classic characters with main characters from their series.

(https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/kaizou_10/70859156/693656/693656_original.jpg)
(https://ic.pics.livejournal.com/kaizou_10/70859156/694514/694514_original.jpg)

The list is:

- One Piece and Goku (from Dragon Ball)
- My Hero Academia and Naruto (from Naruto)
- Haikyu! and ? (I can't remember the title of this)
- Black Clover and Hiei (from Yu Yu Hakusho)
- Neverland and Taluluto (from Magical Taluluto-kun)
- Kimetsu no Yaiba and Norimaki Arale (from Dr. Slump)
- Gintama and Himura Kenshin (from Rurouni Kenshin)
- Dr. Stone and Lala (from To Love-Ru)
- Yuuna and Shadow Lady (from Shadow Lady)
- We Never Learn and Hananakajima Masaru (from Sexy Commando Gaiden)
- Food Wars and Shindou Hikaru (from Hikaru no Go)
- Act-Age and Mutou Yuugi (from Yu-Gi-Oh!)
- Hinomaru Zumou and Kinniku Suguru (from Kinnikuman)
- Noah's Notes and Taikoubou (from Houshin Engi)
- Tanaka Seiji and Kurosaki Ichigo (from Bleach)
- Momiji no Kisetsu and Bossun (from Sket Dance)
- Alice to Taiyou and Rukawa Kaede (from Slam Dunk)
- Kimi wo Shinryaku Seyo! and Nougami Neuro (from Majin Tantei Nougami Neuro)
- Jujutsu Kaisen and Takeshi (from Seikimatsu Leader-den Takeshi!)

Very cool.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on July 13, 2018, 02:10:50 AM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 12, 2018, 02:34:47 AM
- Haikyu! and ? (I can't remember the title of this)
That's Cascade from Midori no Makibao.

It's interesting to see both Jujitsu Kaisen and Act-Age creep up into the upper half of the ToC.  I started reading past the initial Jump Start chapters of Act-Age, and I'm really enjoying the Death Island arc so far.  I hope it can keep up the momentum.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 19, 2018, 12:45:36 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #34 (July 17th 2018):
One Piece (Cover, Lead CP)
Fisher's×One Piece 7 Tsunagi no Dai Hihou (One Shot)
1. Jujutsu Kaisen
2. Dr. Stone
The Promised Neverland (CP)
3. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
4. Act-Age
5. Black Clover
6. My Hero Academia
Shokugeki no Sanji (CP, One Shot)
7. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
Tanaka Seiji (Not Ranked)
Alice & Taiyou (Not Ranked)
8. Haikyu!!
9. We Never Learn
10. Gintama
11. Hinomaru Zumou
12. Kimi wo Shinryaku Seyo!
13. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
14. Noah's Notes
15. Momiji no Kisetsu

I guess congrats to Kaisen for getting at the top. I have heard literally nothing about it, but I also wasn't impressed with the early chapters so I have no idea why it's ranking so high unless it's being given a super push by the editors. Act-Age, on the other hand, appears to be pushing along just fine. The other new series all look like they won't last very long. Next week MHA gets the cover and both Haikyu and Food Wars get color pages.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on July 20, 2018, 10:51:12 AM
Honestly, it's kinda insane that both Jujitsu and Act-Age have made this much of a resurgence.  I can't speak for Jujitsu since I haven't read past the Jump Start, but I think in Act-Age's case, the Death Island arc and the introduction of a number of supporting characters has really helped the series gain more traction with Japanese readers.  I really hope that Viz picks up one of them (if not both) for the magazine.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 26, 2018, 01:10:55 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #35 (July 25th 2018):
My Hero Academia (Cover, Lead CP)
MHA (One Shot)
1. Dr. Stone
2. Jujutsu Kaisen
3. We Never Learn
Haikyu!! (CP)
4. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
5. Act-Age
6. The Promised Neverland
Tanaka Seiji (Not Ranked)
Alice & Taiyou (Not Ranked)
Danny's Radio (One Shot)
Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma (CP)
7. Black Clover
8. Gintama
9. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
10. Kimi wo Shinryaku Seyo!
11. Hinomaru Zumou
12. Noah's Notes
13. Momiji no Kisetsu

Not much in the way of surprises this week, but One Piece is off and the bottom series remained unchanged. I'm hearing this might be a double issue so there won't be an issue for two weeks if that's the case. New series will probably start around then.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on July 26, 2018, 10:33:12 AM
Yup, the next issue is (https://okachi.fr/weekly-shonen-jump-35/) the 36/37 double issue (https://twitter.com/YonkouProd/status/1022480320283607040). 

Quote
#36/37:
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba (Lead color)
The Promised Neverland (Color)
Hot (Oneshot by Akira Amano) (Color)
Jigokuraku - Special chapter (Color)

There will also be some additional news about Demon Slayer's anime.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 26, 2018, 11:01:40 AM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on July 13, 2018, 02:10:50 AMThat's Cascade from Midori no Makibao.

It's interesting to see both Jujitsu Kaisen and Act-Age creep up into the upper half of the ToC.  I started reading past the initial Jump Start chapters of Act-Age, and I'm really enjoying the Death Island arc so far.  I hope it can keep up the momentum.

Speaking of which, are you reading it on VIZ's website or just reading scans? I ask because I've been wanting to read more of the series after enjoying the first three chapters but I can't find that Viz has uploaded anything past that point. For me personally I like to make sure to support any series that's officially available in English but I'm not against turning to scans if I can't find the series in question from any North American publisher.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 26, 2018, 01:00:01 PM
Viz hasn't picked any new series up since Dr. Stone, Robot, and We Never Learn first came out. Only Jump Starts. Same as KnY, even though they licensed it the new chapters don't run in the official WSJ here. You have to wait for the volumes.

I'm not sure what they're going to pick to fill the void. I'm guessing they're waiting to see if any of the new series survive so they don't get stuck with a canceled one again.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on July 26, 2018, 07:59:56 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 26, 2018, 11:01:40 AM
Speaking of which, are you reading it on VIZ's website or just reading scans? I ask because I've been wanting to read more of the series after enjoying the first three chapters but I can't find that Viz has uploaded anything past that point. For me personally I like to make sure to support any series that's officially available in English but I'm not against turning to scans if I can't find the series in question from any North American publisher.
For past chapter 3, I've been reading scans (which are behind sadly) and attempting to muddle my way through the raw chapters with my very limited Japanese skills.  :sweat:

I'd love for Viz to pick it up (or even Jujitsu Kaisen), but I think they're going to hold out for something that's an instant success or by an established mangaka.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 27, 2018, 02:08:14 PM
Gotcha! Yeah, unfortunately non-battle series tend to be treated with caution by Viz and only really picked up if they can be proven successful years later, usually through an anime. There are some exceptions like Food Wars! and a couple other series in that vain, but otherwise they aren't given much of a chance. I mean, both Kuroko no Basket and Haikyuu! were largely ignored until years later when they had extremely popular anime adaptations proven to be a success in CR. So yeah, I can certainly see why a relatively niche drama about the professional acting industry in Japan would be a hard sell for Viz at this point.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 02, 2018, 12:27:59 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #36/#37 (August 1st/7th 2018):
WSJ Cast (Cover)
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba (Lead CP)
1. One Piece
2. Dr. Stone
The Promised Neverland (CP)
3. Jujutsu Kaisen
4. Haikyu!!
Hot (CP, One Shot)
5. My Hero Academia
6. We Never Learn
Tanaka Seiji (Not Ranked)
Alice & Taiyou (Not Ranked)
Jigoku Raku (CP, Special Chapter)
7. Black Clover
8. Gintama
9. Act-Age
10. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
11. Hinomaru Zumou
12. Kimi wo Shinryaku Seyo!
13. Noah's Notes
14. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
15. Momiji no Kisetsu


Next week Gintama gets the cover and apparently an important announcement. Since it already has the anime running, and has a live action film on the way, I'm not really sure what this could be for except to possibly announce it's ending soon. It's about due, at this point. Yuuna, Boruto, and Kaisen get color pages, too. Everything else is more or less where it has been for some time now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on August 16, 2018, 12:05:38 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #38 (August 21st 2018):
Gintama (Cover, Lead Color Page)
1. Dr. Stone
2. One Piece
Jujutsu Kaisen (Color Page)
3. The Promised Neverland
4. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
5. Black Clover
6. My Hero Academia
Yuuna & The Haunted Hot Springs (Color Page)
7. Act-Age
Alice & Taiyo (Not "Ranked")
8. Hinomaru Zumo
9. We Never Learn
10. Tanaka Seiji
Boruto (Color Page)
11. Haikyu!!
12. Momiji no Kisetsu
13. Shokugeki no Souma
14. Noah's Notes (end)
15. Kimi wo Shinrayuki Seyo!

#39:
We Never Learn (Cover, Lead Color Page + Important Announcement)
Act-Age (Color Page)
Dr. Stone (Color Page)
Hono Mieru Shonen (Color Page, Oneshot)
Alice & Taiyou (First Rank)

Aniplex recently registered the domain "boku-ben.com", so WNL's announcement is most definitely an anime. 
(https://twitter.com/YonkouProd/status/1030007450521370624)
Additionally, Gintama will end in 5 chapters. (https://twitter.com/kiirobon/status/1029945107179610114)

Tanaka Seiji's placements more towards the lower end, so I'm not expecting much from it in the coming weeks.  Noah's Notes got cancelled as expected, and it looks like Invade You is next on the chopping block.  Meanwhile Act-Age and Jujitsu Kaisen seem to be going strong.  Hopefully the momentum can keep up for both of them.  I'm curious to see how Alice & Taiyo does next week.  The reception for it seems pretty positive but it seems to be hitting a similar niche as Act-Age, so I'm not sure if the audience for it is there.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 16, 2018, 03:48:47 PM
With Noah's Notes ending and Invade You almost certainly coming to a close, and Gintama finally wrapping up in five chapters, it looks like we're either getting 3 new series... or possibly two and the return of World Trigger. That might be a pipe dream at this point, but I still hold out hope.

Congrats on WNL getting an anime. This means the next one up to get an anime is Dr. Stone. And I bet this is the one Toei jumps on. It wouldn't surprise me.

It seems to be a rarity now for a Jump series to not have an anime adaption. If only WSM and Sunday could do the same. It really seems to push up the sales and buying base by quite a bit.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on August 16, 2018, 11:53:55 PM
WSM seems to be ramping up adaptions a fair bit.  Boarding School Juliet is getting an anime in October, and next year they have adaptions for Ahiru no Sora, Domestic Girlfriend, and The Quintessential Quintuplets (which only just reached 50 chapters) coming out.  Fire Force and To Your Eternity seem to be the main anomalies, which is strange since they're both series from mangaka with hugely successful works under their belt. 

Sunday though........who knows.  The Komi-san domain they registered a while back still hasn't been used and, besides Detective Conan (which is basically an irregularly released manga now) and Major 2nd (which currently has an anime), none of their other series seem to be getting anime anytime soon.  Maybe things will change next year with the 60th anniversary, but I'm not keeping my hopes up...
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 17, 2018, 03:18:28 PM
It says something that Fujita has to keep going out of his way to get his works adapted. Ushio & Tora and Karakuri Circus should have been anime decades ago. He'll probably have to do the same thing with Moonlight Act and Souboutei Must Be Destroyed, too.

I think this might be why Sunday doesn't have as high a profile as it should. It hasn't taken anime adaptions seriously in a long time. Starting with the bad Flame of Recca anime there have been very few Sunday anime, and even fewer that were done well. They have no presence out there, so it's no wonder that fewer people buy the magazine.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on August 20, 2018, 02:15:55 PM
I finally caught up with To Your Eternity a few days ago, and goddamn it's fantastic!  Oima's talent for storytelling is superb.  Despite being a series riddled with countless deaths, she manages to place impact on each causality and giving it meaning to the larger narrative.  Immo himself is also a fascinating protagonist, and seeing his character progress through the course of the series has been wonderful.  This may very well be one of my favorite ongoing manga now, and I'm looking forward to keeping up with it in the future.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 20, 2018, 03:03:47 PM
Same. It's easily the most exciting series that I'm currently following, and criminally underrated since it doesn't get nearly as much discussion as it deserves.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on August 23, 2018, 03:33:36 PM
Weekly Shounen Jump Issue #39:
We Never Learn (Cover, Lead CP)
1. The Promised Neverland
2. One Piece
3. Jujutsu Kaisen
4. My Hero Academia
Dr. Stone (CP)
5. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
6. Haikyu!!
Hono Mieru Shounen (CP, Golden Future Cup Entry #1)
7. Black Clover
Act-Age (CP)
8. Alice & Taiyo
9. Hinomaru Zumou
10. Food WarsL Shokugeki no Soma
11. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
12. Gintama
13. Tanaka Seiji
14. Momiji no Kisetsu
15. Kimi wo Shinryaku Seyo!

Weekly Shounen Jump Issue #40:
Cover, Lead CP: One Piece
CP: Haikyu!!, Hinomaru Zumou, Ketsueki Nuru (Golden Future Cup Entry #2 (by Tengan Shintarou))

We Never Learn got confirmed for an anime, as expected.  I wouldn't be surprised if Dr. Stone gets an announcement soon as well.  Jujitsu Kaisen is continuing to do great, and Alice & Taiyo seems to have a decent ToC placement. Besides that, not much to say.  Golden Future Cup Entries will be in issues up through issue #44, so we likely are not going to see any new series debut until those end.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 23, 2018, 06:40:36 PM
Since the GFC is starting that means the next serialization round isn't until this is over. Some speculation appears to say that there might be another big new round like the one that gave us Dr. Stone and We Never Learn way back when. With Gintama ending, Noah's Notes being canceled, and Invade You, Momiji, and Tanaka Seiji all doing badly, they might be ready to do another clean sweep. Who really knows.

The round after the GFC is usually heavy duty, though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 25, 2018, 05:00:31 PM
Here are my thoughts on the current WSJ series that I'm following at this point:

One Piece- This series continues its hot streak with the Wano arc, and I'm so happy to see Zoro back in a prominent role again after him and half of the other Straw Hats being absent from the story for well over a year. Really, this should be his arc more than anyone else's since the Samurai theme is his whole shtick, and it looks like the series won't disappoint on that end. I think this will be another long one but I'm genuinely OK with that as there is a lot that needs to happen here, and I think that as the story builds up, many, many more characters and factions will become involved in this conflict, making this possible the biggest arc in the series since Marineford just on an event scale level.

My Hero Academia- Still hasn't lost its edge, IMO, which is impressive considering that it's quickly nearing the 200-chapter mark. Granted, I'm not sure if I'm OK with Endeavor getting a redemption arc without first having to suffer more severe consequences for his years of abuse and neglect towards his family, but I am liking that his character is not going the generic "evil dad" route that other shonen might take. At any rate, that arc was still well-handled, and I'm surprised at how quickly it got me to give a shit about Hawks. The current arc is also the kind of stuff that I love the most about the series, with Deku and the rest of UA going through more teamwork-building exercises.

Kimetsu no Yaiba- Yet another series that has been on a hot streak for me, and one that won't seemingly end anytime soon. I am really liking how this series has been handling the Pillars, giving each one their own personal character arcs and backstories one at a time, to the point where I'm totally cool with them steeling the spotlight from Tanjirou at the other characters for now even though I normally hate that in most other series. This arc in particular feels more like establishing the Mist and Love Pillars as important future friends/allies for Tanjirou anyways, so his character still feels very involved in that regard even though he's more of a background fighter in this current scenario.

Dr. Stone- Still enjoying this series as well, but if I'm to be honest, I feel like it's stalling a bit now. We've had more than enough buildup, and I do feel that it's the appropriate time for the main battle between Ishigami Village and Tsukasa's Empire to take place. I'm hoping that's what will happen after the conclusion of this rescue arc.

The Promised Neverland- You all know that I wasn't a big fan of the previous arc, but while it's still really early into this new arc, this does thankfully seem to be moving back into a direction that I'm on board with. We'll still have to wait and see where the plot goes from here, though.

Black Clover- This one is kind of a force of habit read for me, at this point. I'm a sucker for battle shonen so I can even mildly enjoy the most basic, generic ones, but I think even for me it's really starting to wear thin here with how lazily written this material is.

Food Wars- And this one has just become an utter joke at this point. The funny thing is, I'd drop it but I'm still entertained by this manga, albeit for all of the wrong reasons. I still contest that the manga screwed itself with the introduction of Azami and Central, but even that series of story arcs had a coherent direction about it (as incredibly boring and predictable as it was), and had at least a few redeeming qualities that at least made it readable, mainly Erina's character arc. However everything since the time-skip has been absolutely bonkers and clearly made up on the spot. The story has no clear direction, is introducing nonsensical and infuriatingly annoying new characters out of nowhere, somehow managed to fuck up Soma's main goal in no time at all by having him job to a garbage new villain, and the manga is now relying on fan-service more heavily than ever before. It is unarguably pretty terrible at this point....but just seeing how much lower it can sink is actually kind of what makes it so fascinating to read at this point. That, and seeing the shit-storm people (rightfully) raise about it on forums and message boards.

As for Hinomaru Zumou, I'm still playing catch-up on that one since I took a break from the manga after I caught up with the scans, however it looks like since then they have released a bunch more chapters online, so I'll pick it back up one of these days.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on August 28, 2018, 11:52:19 AM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 25, 2018, 05:00:31 PM
Here are my thoughts on the current WSJ series that I'm following at this point:
I noticed that you didn't include Haikyu.  Did you drop it, or is it because (iirc) you read it in chunks? 

I've fallen behind on most manga in WSJ with the exception of Demon Slayer and Haikyu, so I don't really feel like commenting on those for now.  Strangely enough though, I am keeping up with quite a few Shonen Sunday and Magazine titles:

Detective Conan - While the series is now on irregular serialization (likely permanently), I feel like the trade off has been that the plot has progressed far more quickly than previously.  With the Akai family, Rum/Asaca, and Karasuma plot threads all slowly converging, it seems like a final arc is definitely looming.  Since the series is no longer weekly though, it's hard to tell when exactly the series will end, but I'll be looking forward to what Aoyama has in store.

Zero's Tea Time -  This manga is basically just Amuro/Bourbon going on slice of life adventures, but it's a surprisingly relaxing read.  It helps that Amuro has always been an entertaining supporting character, but series also does a good job of splicing in some brief introspectives on to his mentality of having to deal with three different identities.  It also seems like Arai and Aoyama are going to start doing proper story arcs soon for the series, so it will be interesting to see how those turn out.

Tonikaku Cawaii – This is my first experience and Kenjiro Hata's work, and damn do I love it!  It definitely gives me similar vibes to My Love Story in that it's mainly about the life of a stable relationship.  The recent chapter where Tsukasa finally meets Nasa's parents in particular was especially sweet and heartfelt, which really shows Hata's ability to balance the romance/comedy elements alongside the development of his cast.  From what I've heard from BDR/Sakaki, Hata was inspired to make this manga after recently getting married himself, and I think that contributes a lot to the genuine emotions you feel when reading this series.

Eden's Zero -  It's Fairy Tail IN SPACE......ok not really.  Honestly, so far, this manga just feels really standard.  Outside of Mashima's artwork, nothing feels particularly unique, and Shiki's gimmick of being obsessed with making new friends gets old really fast.  It's a quick read though, so I'll probably continue to keep up with it.

Orient – It feels like Ohtaka has been given a lot more free reign with her new series for better and worse.  There are some awesome action sequences in the first few chapters and the cast is pretty entertaining so far, but pacing seems to drag at times, especially during the first battle, where the enemy seems to keep coming back to life and prolonging the fight.  Still, there's a ton of potential here, and given Ohtaka's track record, I'm sure she can pull something great out of it once she picks up her momentum.

Hitman – I've been wary of Seo Koji's work given his history with "out-there" plot-twists, but so far this series has been pretty good.  Having a "manga about making manga" from an editor's perspective has worked surprisingly well, and Koji's choice to have the lead mangaka/heroine be female was a pretty good one.  The supposed main "twist" of the series was also quite unexpected for me, and it has a lot of potential if Koji handles it properly. I'm definitely interested to see where this goes.

To Your Eternity – I already gave my thoughts on this earlier.  To re-iterate though, it's amazing, and is slowly becoming a favorite of mine.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 28, 2018, 03:38:34 PM
I suppose you could say that I've put Haikyuu on an extended hiatus. I'm over 100 chapters behind on it and I want to catch up but can't find the time right now.

Your list reminds me that I really do need to read a lot more Shonen Sunday series, but I'm definitely with you on To Your Eternity being among it's best.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 29, 2018, 11:51:59 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #40 (September 5th, 2018):
One Piece (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Dr. Stone
2. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
Hinomaru Zumou (CP)
3. Jujutsu Kaisen
4. Act-Age
Haikyu!! (CP)
5. Promised Neverland
6. We Never Learn
Ketsueki Nuru (CP, Golden Future Cup Entry #2)
7. Kimi wo Shinryaku Seyo!
8. My Hero Academia
9. Black Clover
10. Gintama
11. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
12. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
13. Alice & Taiyou
14. Tanaka Seiji
15. Momiji no Kisetsu (End)

Kind of a strange week, rankings-wise. Anyway, another series down, and with Gintama wrapping up that makes it 3 for this round so far. If another goes, I'm going to guess it's Tanaka Seiji. Promised Neverland gets the cover and Kimetsu no Yaiba and Dr. Stone get color pages as does the next Golden Cup entry.

As for me, I'm really enjoying current MHA, KnY, and Promised Neverland. They're usually my top 3 reads for the week. They all had a really strong year and have only continued surprising and delighting me. Also eager to see the latter two when they finally get their anime. They both earned them.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on August 30, 2018, 12:33:38 PM
Glad to see Act-Age and Jujitsu still getting killer placement!  It's interesting that Invade You jumped to the middle of the ToC.  It's possible that they want to keep it around for a while since there are no other manga to fill the gag manga niche in the magazine currently.  As far as series ending go, both Yuuna and Hinomaru seem to heading towards conclusions now, though I'm not expecting either to end for a little while longer.  I'll be interesting to see how the next serialization round turns out.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 05, 2018, 05:55:23 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #41 (September 12th, 2018):
The Promised Neverland (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Jujutsu Kaisen
2. We Never Learn
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba (CP)
3. Act-Age
4. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Soma
5. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
Dr Stone (CP)
6. My Hero Academia
7. Black Clover
Koi wa Sensou (CP, Golden Future Cup Entry #3)
BE MADE (Oneshot)
8. Haikyu!!
9. Hinomaru Zumou
10. Gintama
11. Tanaka Seiji
12. Alice & Taiyo
13. Kimi wo Shinryaku Seyo! (End)


I guess that random ranking for Invade You was a fluke. That's 3 canceled series for this round, and Gintama is ending next week with a color page. That's 4 new series with HxH's brief return factored in. Black Clover gets a color page, too. There's a new series next week which is odd because you'd figure they would have waited for the GFC to end, but I suppose not. Feels like not much is sticking this year, and no sign of World Trigger still probably means it won't be back until next year at the earliest and a two year hiatus. Interested to see how the new series hold up.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on September 05, 2018, 09:37:23 PM
It looks like there are two new series debuting in Issue #42 (https://okachi.fr/weekly-shonen-jump-41/)

Shishunki Renaissance David-kun by Yuushin Kuroki

Jimoto ga Japan by Seiji Hayashi

No word on a 3rd new series strangely enough.  With Invade You gone, Tanaka Seiji and Alice & Taiyo are very close to the chopping block.  Besides that, things seem to be going as expected.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on September 06, 2018, 01:25:37 PM
Kaiu Shirai's author's comment in Issue #41 says that TPN is entering its final arc. (https://twitter.com/TPNManga/status/1037759951454826497)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 06, 2018, 03:43:10 PM
I suppose the recent comments that it just passed the 50% point of the plot were true. The quest for the walls looks like it's going to be the final arc since it will definitely involve rescuing the kids, finding Norman, and beating the big bad. But I do think it's going to be a very long arc. Each arc has been longer than the last, so this only makes sense.

As for Jump, if there isn't a third new series... does this mean there's a possibility that they're holding the spot open for World Trigger's possible return in the near future? I sure hope so. Remember that they kept its spot locked for half a year before finally filling it with a new series.

EDIT: Another thing I wanted to mention was how good Horikoshi has been with characters. Within only a few chapters of his introduction Hawks is now on many people's favorite hero list. Really eager to see what he's got cooking for the next big arc since it looks to me like this current one is going to be important in some way due to the strange relationship between Shinsou's quirk and One For All.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on September 12, 2018, 07:35:26 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #42 (September 19th, 2018):
Teenage Renaissance! David (New Series, Cover, Lead CP)
1.One Piece
2. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
Gintama (CP, End)
3. Jujutsu Kaisen
4. Dr. Stone
Apollo (CP, Golden Future Cup Entry #4)
5. Black Clover
6. My Hero Academia
7. The Promised Neverland
8. Act-Age
9. We Never Learn
10. Haikyu!
11. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
12. Hinomaru Sumo
13. Food Wars
14. Alice & Taiyo
15. Tanaka Seiji
I'm From Japan (New Series, CP)

Gintama will continue in Jump GIGA for a brief while, so that Sorachi can properly conclude the story.  In Issue #43, Jujitsu Kaisen will get the cover, and Hunter x Hunter will have a CP for its return.  I kinda wish Viz would pick up Jujitsu Kaisen and Act-Age asap, in order to prevent another situation like with Demon Slayer, but who knows what there plan is.  It looks like I'm From Japan is planned to be the new "End of Magazine Gag Manga" that Jump is going to try.  I'm curious if it will end up sticking.  Not much to saw besides that.  Overall, a pretty normal ToC.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on September 17, 2018, 01:43:35 PM
I'm not sure if anyone has read the new Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba chapter yet, but the reveal at the end was unexpected to say the least.  I'm curious where Gotouge plans to take things from here.  The series has easily become one of my favorite ongoing manga to read alongside To Your Eternity.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 17, 2018, 04:35:19 PM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on September 17, 2018, 01:43:35 PM
I'm not sure if anyone has read the new Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba chapter yet, but the reveal at the end was unexpected to say the least.  I'm curious where Gotouge plans to take things from here.  The series has easily become one of my favorite ongoing manga to read alongside To Your Eternity.

It has become apparent to me that we have very similar tastes. Those are my two favorite currently running manga, shonen or otherwise. :thumbup:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on September 20, 2018, 01:03:56 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #43 (September 26th, 2018):
Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover/LCP)
1. One Piece
2. The Promised Neverland
Hunter × Hunter (CP)
3. Kimetsu no Yaiba
4. act-age
I'm From Japan (CP/23p)
5. Dr. Stone
6. Hinomaru Zumo
Teenage Renaissance David (CP)
7. My Hero Academia
Boruto (41p)
8. Haikyuu!!
9. Black Clover
10. Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings
11. Shokugeki no Soma
12. We Never Learn
13. Alice to Taiyou
14. Tanaka Seiji

Issue #44 Preview


Cover/LCP: Hinomaru Zumo
CP: act-age (Consecutive Colour Page; #44 & #45); Black Clover; Mist no Kaibouroku (GFC Oneshot Entry No. 5) by Saezu Yuuto

I'm guessing Hinomaru is getting the cover to promote the start of the anime.  Act-Age is continuing to go strong, and two consecutive color pages is a good sign that editorial wants to keep it around for a good while.  WNL is strangely low, but I'm viewing it as an outlier in the ToC trends for now. Overall, things are looking good.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 20, 2018, 01:09:17 PM
Kimetsu no Yaiba's recent chapter was excellent even before that ending. I don't know how Gotouge keeps it up, but the series has been on fire since volume 3 and hasn't waned yet. Even more than that, there are only 3 Upper Moons and Muzan left. I'm thinking we're going to get a big shake up soon, and this reveal might actually be it.

Also, in case you haven't noticed, there's a clear pattern with the main non-Pillar demon hunters so far.

Tanjiro: smell
Zenitsu: hearing
Inosuke: touch
Genya: taste

Next is sight. Really eager to see where it's going next.

As for the rankings, it's pretty much the same as always. But I would say I'm From Japan was the better of the two new series. It had better ideas and execution.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 27, 2018, 01:15:46 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #44 (October 3rd, 2018):
Hinomaru Zumou (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
2. One Piece
Act-Age (CP)
3. The Promised Neverland
4. Jujutsu Kaisen
Mist no Kaibou-roku (CP, Golden Future Cup Entry #5)
5. My Hero Academia
Black Clover (CP)
6. We Never Learn
Hunter X Hunter (Not Ranked)
Teenage Renaissance David (Not Ranked)
7. Dr. Stone
8. Haikyu!!
9. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
10. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
11. Alice & Taiyou
12. Tanaka Seiji
I'm From Japan

Gonna put it out there that I'm From Japan is their new gag manga. Probably a good choice as it was the better of the two, even if it's nothing all that interesting. It still clearly has more to it than one gimmick like David does. Otherwise everything else is more or less where you'd expect. Congrats to KnY for still being on fire and making it to #1 ahead of One Piece. I'm really eager to see where it goes from here. Otherwise Dr. Stone gets the cover next week, and Act-Age gets (another?) color page while three new one-shots join the fray. And here's hoping the Hinomaru anime turns out well.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 03, 2018, 08:11:10 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #45 (October 10th, 2018):
Dr. Stone (Cover, Lead CP)
1. The Promised Neverland
2. One Piece
3. My Hero Academia
4. Black Clover
Act-Age (CP)
5. Hinomaru Zumou
6. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
I'm from Japan (Not Ranked)
7. Jujutsu Kaisen
8. Haikyu!!
Smart Debu (One Shot, CP)
Prinprin Yoshida no Karei Naru Jinsei (One Shot, CP)
Matagi to Gakusei (One Shot, CP)
9. We Never Learn
Hunter X Hunter (Not Ranked)
10. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
11. Food Wars!: Shokugeki no Souma
12. Alice & Taiyou
13. Tanaka Seiji
Teenage Renaissance David


Look like they're swapping Japan and David to see which one does better in the bottom slot. Anyway, ranks are pretty normal and it's nice to see MHA back at the top again. Next week Haikyu gets the cover, and We Never Learn and Jujutsu Kaisen get color pages. There will also be a mini-series by Kazuki Takahashi (of Yu-Gi-Oh! fame) as well as another one-shot by Mitsutoshi Shimabukuro. In other news, it looks like MHA has finally overtaken Haikyu in sales to be #2 in Jump behind One Piece.

In non-Jump news Souboutei is still selling really well and is still getting zero attention from anyone. Too bad. Hope the Karakuri Circus anime will give it some spotlight.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on October 07, 2018, 08:51:04 PM
Looks like Viz will simulpub The Comiq (Kazuki Takahashi's new manga) in Shonen Jump, as well as a new RWBY manga by Bunta Kinami (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-10-06/viz-shonen-jump-to-publish-yu-gi-oh-creator-takahashi-short-manga-new-rwby-manga/.137821)

I kinda wish they'd pick up Act-Age and/or Jujutsu Kaisen while they're at it, but hey at least we're getting more content for the magazine.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on October 11, 2018, 03:15:03 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #46 (October 17th, 2018):
Haikyu! (Cover, Lead CP, 34 pgs)
1. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
2. Act-Age
3. Dr. Stone
Jujutsu Kaisen (CP)
The Comiq (New Series, 53 pgs)
4. The Promised Neverland
We Never Learn (CP)
5. My Hero Academia (11 pages)
Watashi no Hero Academia (Special Chapter by Yoko Akiyama)
6. Black Clover (13 pages)
Black Clover Gaiden (Special Chapter)
Hajimete no Mochikomi  (One-shot, Mitsutoshi Shimabukuro)
Teenage Renaissance David
7. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
Hunter x Hunter
8. Hinomaru Sumo
9. Food Wars
10. Alice & Taiyo
11. Tanaka Seiji
I'm From Japan

One Piece will have the cover next week, and Boruto, Jujutsu Kaisen, and Demon Slayer will get color pages.  I'm surprised The Comiq isn't getting any color pages at all, though maybe it's because of it being a limited-run series.  It's interesting that David and Japan have been swapping places at the bottom of the ToC.  My guess is that the editorial is trying to figure out which series works better as a closer for the magazine.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 11, 2018, 01:52:18 PM
I hope Horikoshi is okay. The last month of chapters have been incredibly short and could all have been stacked to make regular length ones. He usually only does this when he's not feeling well. It has been a heavy year for him so I was hoping he'd be more free to work back at his usual pace.

Everything else is about where I'd expect. KnY's been on fire so it's nice to see it so consistently high.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on October 14, 2018, 09:14:26 PM
World Trigger is resuming publication on October 29th! (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2018-10-14/world-trigger-manga-resumes-on-october-29/.138167)

It will run 5 chapters in Weekly Shonen Jump before moving to being a monthly series in Jump SQ.  It's good to see Ashihara finally coming back!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 14, 2018, 11:21:27 PM
I knew it would be moving to monthly. I'm going to guess this is to complete the part they were already on. Nonetheless, I'm just glad it's back and I'm eager to read more.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 15, 2018, 11:49:41 PM
It's been a long two years! So glad World Trigger is back. It looks like Caleb Cook, who translates MHA and Dr. Stone for Viz, will be its new translator too, which makes me even more excited to read it.

Viz has also put up the entirety of the B-Rank Wars arc (chapters 82-164) to read for free online for the next two weeks! (https://www.viz.com/shonenjump/chapters/world-trigger) This is really great for anyone who needs a refresher, and I'll probably revisit as much as I can before the series comes back, though thankfully a lot of it is still fresh in my mind thanks to rereading it for Manga Mavericks earlier this year.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 16, 2018, 12:00:13 AM
This is terrific news!

Unfortunately, it's been two years since I caught up with the series, and I'm not going to lie....I've forgotten a shit-ton of stuff since then. I'll need to find a way to do a quick refresher as I simply don't have the time to re-read the whole series up to its current point, and that includes re-reading an entire story arc. Maybe I'll just re-read select chapters or something. I mean, I'm glad that it's back and all, but I wish the Jump staff would have announced this a month earlier or something so that I had more time to prepare for its return.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 16, 2018, 12:13:27 AM
Yeah, World Trigger has so many characters, intertwining subplots, and lore that it's really hard to remember everything. I definitely appreciated the series a lot more reading it again from the beginning and seeing how all the pieces fit together, and I think it really is a series best read in chunks. But it's also a really dense read, and while I'm really glad that Viz has put up over half the series for people to re-read for free on their site, I definitely won't be able to read all of it either. I think the easiest way to segue back into keeping up with the series without completely re-reading it for now is to just re-read chapters 147-164, since those chapters set up and address Tamakoma's priorities going into their next match and the motivations of the main characters right now, which should be enough to get back into the swing of what the series is about.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 16, 2018, 12:51:06 PM
I only reread the last two Rank War matches and felt refreshed. Just needed my memory jostled a little.

The next match which starts in the next chapter is very important and will certainly not be finished in the five chapters left in Jump. It's the first one with Hyuse, and they're going against three of the best teams. They need to reach the top 2 in order to get on the away team for various reasons, and this is basically the match the whole last arc was leading up to. So it's a pretty big deal.

He should be able to get through it quicker at a monthly pace though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on October 18, 2018, 04:59:27 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #47 (October 22nd, 2018):
One Piece (Cover/Lead CP)
1. The Promised Neverland
2. Black Clover
Jujutsu Kaisen (CP)
Hunter x Hunter
The Comiq (23 pages)
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba (CP)
4. Haikyu!
5. Dr. Stone
Boruto (CP)
6. Act-Age
I'm From Japan
7. Hinomaru Sumo
8. Food Wars
9. We Never Learn
10. Yuuna & The Haunted Hot Springs
11. Alice & Taiyo
12. Tanaka Seiji
Teenage Renaissance David

As we know, World Trigger returns in issue #48!  Additionally, The Promised Neverland will have the Cover/LCP, and Yuuna and Food Wars will have CPs.  On a side note, Hinomaru Sumo and We Never Learn have also changed editors. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 18, 2018, 03:51:39 PM
I keep hearing that Hinomaru is heading for the end so I'm not sure how much could really be changed. Four years in and I'm pretty sure he's got things locked down. WNL is an interesting case. Not really sure why you would need to switch editors on a series like this, especially when it's getting an anime, and I'm not really sure what more you could do to change it. As long as it doesn't go the Nisekoi route of doing nothing for a long period, I suppose.

Most excited for World Trigger's return, though. Been waiting two years to see what happens next!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 18, 2018, 09:46:07 PM
I'm unsure if Hinomaru and WNL getting new editors is a move meant to change the direction of the series themselves, necessarily. My guess is that the editors either got reassigned to upcoming new series or another series just because they needed to shuffle people around to accommodate as many artists as possible. After all, when Nisekoi got a new editor five chapters before it ended I'd imagine it was done to help its previous editor get a head start on working with a different series rather than trying to shake the series up as it was heading towards its conclusion.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 23, 2018, 11:59:44 AM
The current arc of KnY is getting really damn interesting with how Nezuko has become the center-piece of the coming conflict between the humans and the demons. It was also a brilliant idea to have the demon attacks abruptly stop to fill us (and the Demon Hunters) with an eerie and foreboding sense of dread, like this is the calm before the storm and the enemy is gathering up for a big attack. It kind of feels like an endgame is already in site, which would be way sooner than what I expected, but there's still a lot of unanswered questions left about Tanjirou's past.

Also, it really has been a while since we last saw Tamayo. I almost completely forgot who she was until I placed her in my memory from one of the really early story arcs.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on October 31, 2018, 11:49:47 PM
I forgot to post Issue #48's ToC, so I'll post it right now along with Issue #49's.

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #48 (October 29th, 2018):
The Promised Neverland (Cover/LCP)
1. One Piece
World Trigger
Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings (CP)
Henshuusha Nante Rokunamon Janai by Matsui Yuusei (One-shot, 5 pages)
2. Dr. Stone
3. My Hero Academia
Watashi no Hero Academia (One-shot)
Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma (CP)
4. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
5. Haikyu!!
The Comiq
6. We Never Learn
7. Black Clover
Teenage Renaissance! David
8. Jujutsu Kaisen
Hunter × Hunter
9. act-age
10. Hinomaru Sumo
11. Alice & Taiyo
12. Tanaka Seiji
I'm From Japan

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #49 (November 5th, 2018):

Black Clover (Cover/LCP)
1. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
2. One Piece
3. Dr. Stone
World Trigger
act-age (CP)
4. My Hero Academia
5. The Promised Neverland
Haikyu!! (CP)
6. Teenage Renaissance! David
7. Jujutsu Kaisen
The Comiq
Teenage Renaissance! David (CP)
8. We Never Learn
9. Hinomaru Sumo
10. Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings
11. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
12. Alice & Taiyo
13. Tanaka Seiji
I'm From Japan

Food Wars will get the Cover and Lead CP in Issue #50, with Hinomaru Sumo and I'm From Japan (which will have 2 chapters) getting CPs.  This is also the first week in which I'm From Japan has stayed at the bottom of the ToC instead of swapping with David, so I'm assuming that it'll be staying static at that position for now.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 01, 2018, 08:18:57 PM
Glad to have World Trigger back. The art definitely looked sharper than it did before it left. Eager to see where it goes.

Also really enjoying where MHA, KnY, and Promised Neverland are at. They're easily the best reads every week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on November 08, 2018, 01:13:42 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #50 (November 12th, 2018):
Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma (Cover, Lead Color Page)
1. My Hero Academia
2. One Piece
3. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
World Trigger
Hinomaru Sumo (Color Page)
4. Jujutsu Kaisen
5. Haikyu
I'm From Japan (Color Page, first of two chapters)
6. Act-Age
7. We Never Learn
8. Dr. Stone
9. Black Clover
I'm From Japan
Mochikomi no Susume by Tadatoshi Fujimaki (One shot, 5 pages)
10. The Promised Neverland
Hunter x Hunter
The Comiq
11. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
12. Alice & Taiyo
13. Seiji Tanaka (End)
Teenage Renaissance David

Looks like Seiji Tanaka finally kicked the bucket, so I expect the same will happen to Alice & Taiyo in the coming weeks.  It also looks like David and I'm From Japan swapped places again, so I guess Jump is still experimenting with that or it's just going to be a routine thing. 

Dr. Stone has the cover and Lead CP in the next issue as well as a "Special Announcement", while We Never Learn and Yuuna have color pages.  Tomohiro Yagi (Iron Knight, Red Sprite) will also have a new one-shot.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 08, 2018, 01:56:54 PM
World Trigger will be leaving in a few weeks as well, so unless there's a lot of new series on the way I don't expect anything other than Alice & Taiyo getting cut.

Dr. Stone getting an anime is pretty expected. Other than that everything appears to be same as usual. Gonna be hard for a new series to make a mark now. Just about all the current series are doing really well.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on November 14, 2018, 11:34:50 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #52 (November 19th, 2018):
Dr. Stone (Cover/LCP, anime announcement)
1. Jujutsu Kaisen
2. Black Clover
We Never Learn (CP)
3. Act-Age
4. My Hero Academia
Wasuremono Tantei (CP, one-shot)
Hunter x Hunter
6. Haikyu!!
The Comiq
7. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
Teenage Renaissance! David
8. The Promised Neverland
World Trigger
9. Hinomaru Sumo
10. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Souma
Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs (CP)
11. Alice & Taiyo (END)
Jimoto ga Japan

Dr. Stone has been confirmed for an anime in Summer 2019.  Next issue, The Promised Neverland has the cover and lead CP, with Jujutsu Kaisen and Boruto getting color pages.  Next week will also be the final chapter of The Comiq.  My guess is that we'll probably be seeing a new serialization round very soon.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 15, 2018, 11:43:34 AM
Yes, I agree. With two series ending, The Comiq finishing at one volume next chapter, and World Trigger switching magazines very soon, it looks like we might have one big round for the last one of the year. Should be interesting with what they do. I don't suppose HxH will be around much longer either. We might be looking at another big round like the one that gave us Dr. Stone, We Never Learn, and Robot x Laserbeam, on top of the other three canceled series. That would be wild.

And, yeah, Dr. Stone was obvious to have an anime next. It is the most popular series in the magazine to not have one yet. There's nothing else that can get one yet that doesn't already have one. I also don't think anything else is ready for an anime for at least another two years.

Pretty normal week otherwise.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on November 21, 2018, 01:29:25 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #52 (November 26th, 2018):
The Promised Neverland (Cover/LCP)
1. One Piece
2. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
Hunter x Hunter (Hiatus starting next issue)
3. Black Clover
Jujutsu Kaisen (CP)
The Comiq (END)
4. Act-Age
5. My Hero Academia
Boruto  (CP)
World Trigger (Moves to Jump SQ.)
I'm From Japan
6. We Never Learn
7. Dr. Stone
8. Haikyu!!
9. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
10. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
11. Hinomaru Sumo
Teenage Renaissance! David

#1
Chainsaw Man (Cover/LCP, New Series by Fujimoto Tatsuki (Fire Punch))
Act-Age (CP)
Haikyuu!! (CP)
Dragonil (CP, one-shot by Genki Ono (Full Drive))

#2
neO;lation (New Series by Mizuki Yoda (art) & Tomohide Hirao (story))

#3
Gokutei Higuma (New Series by Natsuki Hokami)

Looks like we're going straight into Jump Starts with the first 2019 issue.  It'll be interesting to see how they perform.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on November 21, 2018, 08:24:54 PM
Fire Punch was insane from what I saw so Chainsaw Man should be interesting. The Neo one is supposed to be some kind of sci-fi delinquent thing. Would be cool if they could pull it off. But I dunno. I'll have to see them first.

Funny that three things are stopping in this issue in different ways (Hiatus, moved magazine, natural ending) though with three new series I guess that reopens a lot of space. Especially since the last two series were shorter gag series. There hasn't been a brand new full fledged series in a while.

But that's quite a drop for Hinomaru. I don't think it's ever been that low before. Not sure if it means much since it has an anime right now, though.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on November 29, 2018, 11:45:33 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #1 (December 3rd. 2018):
Chainsaw-man (Cover, Lead CP, New Series)
1. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
2. One Piece
Act-Age (CP)
3. Dr. Stone
4. The Promised Neverland
5. Jujutsu Kaisen
6. My Hero Academia
Draconir (CP, One Shot)
Teenage Renaissance! David
7. Black Clover
Haikyu!! (CP)
8. We Never Learn
9. Hinomaru Sumo
10. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
11. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
Jimoto ga Japan

Next week, neO;lation has the Cover and Lead CP, while Jujutsu Kaisen and Chainsaw Man have color pages.  Chainsaw Man looks insane, so I'm definitely looking forward to reading it on Monday.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 08, 2018, 10:03:31 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #1 (December 10th. 2018):
ne0;lation (Cover, Lead CP, New Series)
1. Dr. Stone
2. One Piece
Chainsaw-man (CP)
3. The Promised Neverland
4. My Hero Academia
Jujutsu Kaisen (CP)
Saotome Shimai wa Manga no Tame Nara!? (Special Chapter)
5. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
6. Black Clover
Chikyuu Bouei-gun Nirasawa Chuuton-chi (CP, One Shot)
I'm From Japan
7. We Never Learn
8. Haikyu!!
9. Act-Age
10. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
11. Hinomaru Sumo
12. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
Teenage Renaissance! David

We Never Learn is getting a color page next week and there will be a special chapter of Nisekoi.

In other news, Viz will be completely re-hauling their Shonen Jump service on December 17th. (https://www.viz.com/wsj-member)
Simulpub chapters will now be available for free for 3 weeks, and the new subscription itself will give readers access to every digitally-available Shonen Jump title that Viz has.  Not gonna lie, I'm super hyped for this! :shakeshakeshake:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 10, 2018, 11:21:04 AM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DuEjIMWVYAIZm6x?format=jpg&name=medium)
Chainsaw Man, ne0;lation, Gokutei Higuma, Demon Slayer, Haikyu, Act Age, AND Jujustu Kaisen are all going to be simulpublished on the new Shonen Jump service.  :shakeshakeshake:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 11, 2018, 12:17:08 AM
The new episode of Viz's Shonen Jump podcast provided further details on how the new series will be added going forward. (https://www.viz.com/blog/posts/shonen-jump-podcast-289)

I still can believe that this is actually happening!  :joy:
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 11, 2018, 11:19:59 AM
This is a really awesome thing that Viz is doing, and I hope that it works out for them and that other companies follow suit. Imagine if we could get something similar for non-SJ manga as well (I'd certainly be willing to pay an additional fee for that, of course). Stuff like this is what makes their titles so accessible and spreads their popularity.

This will also allow me to get around to reading and re-reading a bunch of titles that have been on my backlog. And it's a perfect service for people who want to get into manga. This is easily some of the best news that I've heard all year.

I kind of wish that Marvel and DC would follow suit with something similar. I know that Marvel Unlimited has a big backlog available via subscription, but even that charges $10/month. But, more importantly, these publishers need to realize that nobody except for the most hardcore of hardcore fans want to drop $5+ a piece for each individual issue of a currently running series just to keep up with it. It's not like they have to release them for free, but bundling multiple titles into a single subscription makes way more sense to me.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 13, 2018, 12:09:38 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #3 (December 17, 2018):
Gokutei Higuma (Cover, Lead CP, New Series)
1. The Promised Neverland
2. Haikyu!!
Nisekoi (CP, Special Chapter)
3. Act-Age
4. Black Clover
ne0;lation (CP)
Chainsaw-man
5. My Hero Academia
We Never Learn (CP)
Teenage Renaissance! David
6. Kimetsu no Yaiba
7. Dr. Stone
8. Jujutsu Kaisen
9. Hinomaru Sumo
10. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
11. Yuuna of the Haunted Hot Springs
I'm From Japan

EDIT:
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba will have the Cover and Lead CP in double issue #4/5, with Hinomaru Sumo, Boruto, and Gokutei Higuma having color pages. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Avaitor on December 13, 2018, 05:35:50 PM
I'd really like it if the Jump archives could get access to some series that Viz hasn't released before, like a bunch of older series that may never otherwise get a chance, as well as to finish some they stopped, like Gintama. I'd at least like it if it gets Saint Seiya, which is out of print.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 13, 2018, 09:31:31 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on December 13, 2018, 05:35:50 PM
I'd really like it if the Jump archives could get access to some series that Viz hasn't released before, like a bunch of older series that may never otherwise get a chance, as well as to finish some they stopped, like Gintama. I'd at least like it if it gets Saint Seiya, which is out of print.

Viz still sells Saint Seiya digitally, actually, so it's very likely that it'll be in the Jump vault.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 17, 2018, 12:57:10 PM
So, what do people think of the current arc of KnY? It's impressive how quickly things escalated in the span of just a few chapters. Every single week keeps throwing new and unexpected (but convincing and well thought-out) surprises at me that the tension is really effective as I genuinely don't know what to expect going forward.

I like how Muzan isn't just a powerful main antagonist. He's also very crafty and is more likely to take out opponents by surprise as opposed to just having pure brute strength (though, he is also obviously very powerful and physically difficult to kill).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 18, 2018, 07:20:00 PM
So, I subscribed to Viz's new monthly service since it's a good deal. That said, could anyone explain why the android app (and presumably other versions of the app) lacks a basic search function, or even a reading list queue of any kind? I mean, it does at least save the page that you were on, but it's kind of ludicrous that so much as exiting the screen, even briefly, will automatically reset me to the home page and I have to manually select several options to get back to what I was reading. I'm interested in supporting the industry which is why I've subscribed, but if the official reading source is more of a hassle to use than illegal sites, it's not exactly going to help fight piracy when it comes to other people.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 19, 2018, 12:37:05 AM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 17, 2018, 12:57:10 PM
So, what do people think of the current arc of KnY? It's impressive how quickly things escalated in the span of just a few chapters. Every single week keeps throwing new and unexpected (but convincing and well thought-out) surprises at me that the tension is really effective as I genuinely don't know what to expect going forward.

I like how Muzan isn't just a powerful main antagonist. He's also very crafty and is more likely to take out opponents by surprise as opposed to just having pure brute strength (though, he is also obviously very powerful and physically difficult to kill).
I'm loving the current arc, personally.  Like you said, the surprises and tension just keeps building up with every chapter and it's making it such a fantastic read.  I'm a bit surprised that we're seeing Muzan confront Tanjiro and The Pillars so soon, though based on the most recent chapter, it appears as though he's splitting everyone up, so maybe they'll have to deal with the remaining Upper Moons instead.  In any case, I'm as invested as ever in the series, and it's easily still one of my favorite ongoing manga.

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 18, 2018, 07:20:00 PM
So, I subscribed to Viz's new monthly service since it's a good deal. That said, could anyone explain why the android app (and presumably other versions of the app) lacks a basic search function, or even a reading list queue of any kind? I mean, it does at least save the page that you were on, but it's kind of ludicrous that so much as exiting the screen, even briefly, will automatically reset me to the home page and I have to manually select several options to get back to what I was reading. I'm interested in supporting the industry which is why I've subscribed, but if the official reading source is more of a hassle to use than illegal sites, it's not exactly going to help fight piracy when it comes to other people.
I have an iPhone, so I can't really speak for the quality of the Android app, but the IOS app has a search feature and doesn't boot you to the home page.  I'm not sure why those features aren't on the Android, but I hope they do fix it since it seems to be a common complaint online.  A proper reading queue would also be nice. So far my experience with the new service has been pretty good.  There are certainly some kinks that need to be sorted out on the browser version, but it seems like they'll be stabilized based on what Jeff Rudberg said on Twitter yesterday (as well as Lum and I's interview with him this past weekend).  The back-catalogue chapter vault is also very impressive.  It has some glaring omissions like OPM and HxH (which is weird since they simulpub those already), so hopefully those will get added over time.  Overall though, I'm happy with what the service is offering, and the sheer amount of manga that it has is hard to refuse.

On an unrelated note, I wonder where Spark ran off to.  He hasn't been online in a while....
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 19, 2018, 02:29:32 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #4/5
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba (Lead CP)
1. The Promised Neverland
2. One Piece
3. Haikyu!!
4. Jujutsu Kaisen
5. Black Clover
Hell Warden Higuma (CP)
6. Act-Age
7. My Hero Academia
Boruto (CP)
Chainsaw-man
I'm From Japan
ne0;lation
8. Dr. Stone
Hinomaru Sumo (CP)
9. We Never Learn
10. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
11. Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings
Teenage Renaissance! David

Pretty normal ToC for as of late.  One Piece has the cover and Lead CP next week, with The Promised Neverland and Dr. Stone having color pages.  Ryuhei Tamura (Beelzebub, Hungry Marie) will also have a one-shot.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on December 23, 2018, 01:28:43 AM
Masashi Kishimoto's new sci-fi manga series Samurai 8 will debut in WSJ this spring. The art will be done by Akira Okubo (Kishimoto's former assistant). (https://twitter.com/pkjd818/status/1076736252068560896)
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on January 02, 2019, 11:10:13 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #6/7
One Piece (Lead CP)
1. Jujutsu Kaisen
2. Haikyuu!!
3. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
4. Black Clover
The Promised Neverland (CP)
Chainsaw-man
ne0;lation
Jump G-1 Grand Prix (One Shot)
Dr. Stone (CP)
5. Act-Age
6. We Never Learn
Rappa Rendan (CP, One Shot)
Hell Warden Higuma
7. My Hero Academia
Teenage Renaissance! David
8. Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings
9. Hinomaru Sumo
10. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
I'm From Japan
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on January 16, 2019, 10:47:27 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #8
The Promised Neverland (Cover, Lead CP)
1. One Piece
2. Dr. Stone
3. Act-Age
4. My Hero Academia
5. Haikyu!!
Jujutsu Kaisen (CP)
6. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
Hell Warden Higuma
Hakutei no Erica (CP, One Shot)
7. Black Clover
I'm From Japan
ne0;lation
Chainsaw-man
We Never Learn (CP)
8. Hinomaru Sumo
9. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
10. Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings
Teenage Renaissance! David
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on January 24, 2019, 11:40:24 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #9, 2019
My Hero Academia (Cover/LCP)
1. Kimetsu no Yaiba
2. Dr. Stone
3. The Promised Neverland
4. Black Clover
Haikyu!! (CP)
5. Jujutsu Kaisen
6. Act-Age
Boruto
ne0;lation
Undead+Unluck (CP/Oneshot/47p) by Tozuka Yoshifumi
Teenage Renaissance! David
Hell Warden Higuma
Chainsaw Man
7. We Never Learn
8. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
Yuuna and the Haunted Hotprings (CP)
9. Hinomaru Zumo
Jimoto ga Japan

Issue #10 Preview
Cover/LCP: Act-Age (24p)
CP: Hinomaru Sumo; Mondai no Ooi Ryouriten (Oneshot/20p) by Aso Shuichi (The Disastrous Life of Saiki K); Gold Kid ~Kindo to Yobareta Shougakusei~ (Oneshot/31p) by Osada Kennosuke
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on January 28, 2019, 01:06:39 AM
Shueisha has launched its own global manga app/site called Manga Plus to simulpublish titles internationally! (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-01-27/shueisha-launches-free-global-manga-plus-service/.142634)

It contains the following series:
QuoteOngoing Series
ONE PIECE
The Promised Neverland
Jujutsu Kaisen - Sorcery Fight
My Hero Academia
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
Haikyu!!
Black Clover
Chainsaw Man
Hinomaru Sumo
Food Wars! Shokugeki no Soma
ne0;lation
I'm From Japan
Teenage Renaissance! David
BORUTO
We Never Learn
Dr. Stone
act-age
Hunter × Hunter (Suspended)
Hell Warden Higuma
Seraph of the End: Vampire Reign
Blue Exorcist
Platinum End
World Trigger
Dragon Ball Super
Yu-Gi-Oh! Arc-V
Terra Formars
Hell's Paradise: Jigokuraku
Summertime Render
Nano Hazard
The Sign of Abyss
Blue Flag
Abyss Rage
LAND ROCK
Soloist in A Cage
Curtain's up, I'm off
Spotless Love: This Love Cannot Be Any More Beautiful.
Dricam!!
Moon Land
Dricam

Completed Series
NARUTO
Bakuman.
Rosario + Vampire
Nisekoi
Claymore
Tokyo Ghoul
ONE PIECE Part 1
Assassination Classroom
DEATH NOTE
Rurouni Kenshin: Meiji Swordsman Romantic Story
Bleach
JoJo's Bizarre Adventure

Series that are currently licensed by Viz will use the same simulpub translation that is on the Shonen Jump service while other titles (Hinomaru Sumo, David, I'm From Japan, etc) will be done by Media Do.  This is HUGE!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on January 31, 2019, 01:21:31 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #10, 2019
Act-Age (LCP & Cover)
1. One Piece
2. Dr. Stone
3. Black Clover
4. My Hero Academia
Mondai no Ooi Ryoriten (CP/Oneshot/20p) by Asou Shuichi
5. Jujutsu Kaisen
6. The Promised Neverland
7. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
8. Chainsaw Man
Hell Warden Higuma
I'm From Japan
9. We Never Learn
ne0;lation
Gold Kid ~Kindo to Yobareta Shougakusei~ (CP/Oneshot/31p) by Osada Kennosuke
Hinomaru Sumo (CP)
11. Haikyu!!
12. Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings
13. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
Teenage Renaissance! David

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #10, 2019
Cover & Lead CP: Yuuna & We Never Learn Collaboration
CPs: Food Wars; Jujutsu Kaisen

Seems like Chainsaw Man is placing decently in the ToC for now, which is a good sign.  I'm curious to see how ne0;lation and Higuma perform in the coming weeks.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on February 06, 2019, 02:32:55 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #11, 2019
We Never Learn (Collab LCP, Cover)
Yuuna x Saotome Shimai wa Manga no Tame nara!? Collaboration
Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings (Collab LCP, Cover)
1. Haikyu
2. One Piece
Jujutsu Kaisen (CP)
3. The Promised Neverland
4. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
5. Dr. Stone
6. Black Clover
Seigan no Yamato (Oneshot by  Miho Tanaka)
7. My Hero Academia
J Romcom Festival
Teenage Renaissance David
8. Act-Age
Hell Warden Higuma
9. Chainsaw Man
10. ne0;lation
Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma (CP)
11. Hinomaru Sumo
I'm From Japan

EDIT:
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #12, 2019
Cover/LCP: Haikyu
CPs: The Promised Neverland, I'm From Japan
Fantasies (Oneshot by Gen Osuka)

Not looking good for Chainsaw Man and ne0;lation with them being so low in the ToC, though if Act-Age and Jujutsu have taught us anything, nothing is certain until we see the volume sales.  On a side note, with the exception of Yuuna (which I'm still 15 or so chapters behind on), I'm now caught up on every series in WSJ!  Manga Plus simulpubbing David, Japan, and Hinomaru was a dream come true!  ;D
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on February 15, 2019, 01:02:30 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #12, 2019
Haikyu!! (Cover & Lead CP)
1. Dr. Stone
2. One Piece
3. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
4. My Hero Academia
The Promised Neverland (CP)
5. Hinomaru Sumo
6. Act-Age
7. We Never Learn
FANTASIES (Oneshot, CP)
8. Black Clover
I'm From Japan (Anime visual)
9. Jujutsu Kaisen
10. Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings
11. Chainsaw Man
12. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
13. Hell Warden Higuma
14. ne0;lation
Teenage Renaissance! David

#13:
Cover & Lead CP: Dr. Stone
CP: Boruto, Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba, Maken Kaji-shi Handago (Oneshot by Nakano Shinobu)

Things aren't looking good for Higuma and ne0;lation.  Chainsaw Man is banking low in the ToC as well, but it being above Food Wars does make me suspect that it might hold out longer than the other two. 
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on February 22, 2019, 11:06:08 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump #13:
Dr. Stone (Cover, Lead CP)
1. The Promised  Neverland
2. One Piece
3. Haikyu!!
4. Black Clover
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba (CP)
5. We Never Learn
6. Hinomaru Sumo
7. Jujutsu Kaisen
Maken Kaji-shi Handago (CP, One Shot)
8. Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings
9. Act-Age
Boruto (CP)
10. Hell Warden Higuma
Teenage Renaissance! David
11. Chainsaw Man
12. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
13. ne0;lation
Jimoto ga Japan
My Hero Academia (Absent)

Weekly Shonen Jump #14:
Cover, Lead CP, New Series: Saigo no Saiyuuki by Nonoue Daijiro (Muto Black)
CP: The Promised Neverland, Jujutsu Kaisen, Teenage Renaissance! David

Weekly Shonen Jump #15:
Cover, Lead CP, New Series: Kamioyui wa Kami o Yui by Hiroshi Shiibashi (Nura: Rise of the Yokai Clan)

Looks like the new serialization round is starting much sooner than I expected.  I wonder what's going to get the axe.....
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on February 27, 2019, 10:20:24 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #14, 2019
The Last Saiyuki (Cover, Lead CP, New Series by Daigoro Nonoue)
1. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
2. My Hero Academia
The Promised Neverland (CP)
3. Haikyu
4. Black Clover
5. Dr. Stone
6. Act-Age
Jujutsu Kaisen (CP)
7. We Never Learn
8. Hinomaru Sumo
9. Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings
Teenage Renaissance! David (CP)
10. Chainsaw Man
11. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
12. Hell Warden Higuma
13. ne0;lation
I'm From Japan

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #15, 2019

Cover & Lead CP: Kamio Yui wa Kami wo Yui (New Series) by Hiroshi Shiibashi
CP: Hinomaru Sumo; We Never Learn; The Last Saiyuki

Nothing ended this week, likely since it's an off week for One Piece, but I'm guessing Ne0 and/or Higuma will get axed next week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on March 04, 2019, 11:29:09 AM
I read first chapter of The Last Saiyuki yesterday, and I liked it quite a bit.  It has more of a WSS vibe than what you'd expect from a WSJ manga, which is refreshing to see.  I think it has a lot of potential, so hopefully it will stick around.  In other news, it seems like Chainsaw Man's first volume is having a strong debut, so that's a good sign for its longevity.

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 05, 2019, 08:44:03 PM
Since you mentioned it, though, it's certainly not the first new Jump series to not feel very Jump-esque. Both "The Promised Neverland" and "Chainsawman" also don't feel like you're usual Jump titles and tend to be skewed more towards the older teen readers than younger boys. I think it's fair to say that Jump has been in a transitional period over the past few years and has been more experimental as a result of it. Personally I really like this direction that the magazine has been going in. You get plenty of more traditional series like My Hero Academia and Kimetsu no Yaiba (though executed to such a high level that they still stand out), while also getting a fair amount of less conventional stories like Dr. Stone and Act Age. I'm perfectly fine with both, though The Last Saiyuki certainly looks to be among the latter, which is all the more welcome to diversify the content in Jump.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Painted Outlaw on March 07, 2019, 11:53:59 PM
https://www.tokyoreporter.com/crime/attack-on-titan-editor-handed-11-year-prison-term-for-murder-of-wife/amp/

Damn, hope the guy's kids can find a better home because they're certainly not gonna find one where they are right now. Not sure what this means for the manga itself, maybe it will start wrapping up quicker? Last I glimpsed its news, Hajime Isayama claimed AoT was on the final arc so it wouldn't come off like he was lying.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on March 08, 2019, 11:01:06 AM
It probably won't affect AoT itself much, since he'll just be assigned a new editor.  Though goddamn.....that's brutal.

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 05, 2019, 08:44:03 PM
Since you mentioned it, though, it's certainly not the first new Jump series to not feel very Jump-esque. Both "The Promised Neverland" and "Chainsawman" also don't feel like you're usual Jump titles and tend to be skewed more towards the older teen readers than younger boys. I think it's fair to say that Jump has been in a transitional period over the past few years and has been more experimental as a result of it. Personally I really like this direction that the magazine has been going in. You get plenty of more traditional series like My Hero Academia and Kimetsu no Yaiba (though executed to such a high level that they still stand out), while also getting a fair amount of less conventional stories like Dr. Stone and Act Age. I'm perfectly fine with both, though The Last Saiyuki certainly looks to be among the latter, which is all the more welcome to diversify the content in Jump.

I definitely agree.  I feel like WSJ has done a good job of diversifying their lineup with recent successes.  Even series that I wasn't particularly into initially, Jujutsu Kaisen for instance, have been able to find their own identity and win me over.  It's refreshing to see, for sure.

Speaking of which, I posted this on Twitter a while ago, but I ranked how I feel about everything regularly running in WSJ (sans The Last Saiyuki):

1. Hinomaru Sumo
I caught up to the series back in January, and damn has it blown me away!  The Pro Sumo arc's focus on sumo's struggle for relevance in the present day, and the physical risk that the sport inflicts on the wrestlers are aspects that I feel have been long absent from modern shonen sports manga.  Hinomaru's struggle to overcome his physical trauma, and re-learning his love for sumo was a great way to challenge his resolve from the High School arc and provide further depth to his character as a result. The recent chapters have also done a wonderful job of maintaining the tension within the September tournament with the series of unexpected match upsets, positioning threats beyond just Yokozuna Jin'o himself. Kawada mentioned in one of his author's comments that he never expected the series to continue past high school sumo, and wanted to use it to take advantage of what he could not do in a high school setting.  I think it's safe to say that he's accomplished that wholeheartedly.

2. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
I've explained before why I love this manga so much and that hasn't really changed.  The series is a satisfying read from week to week, and even though this seems to be the final arc, it's only continuing to pick up steam!

3. Act-Age
Act-Age blew me away when it first came out, but it's managed to escalate beyond even that since then.  I love its focus on the psychological aspect of acting, showing the thin line between reality and fiction that its actors experience in their roles.  I especially loved Araya's focus near the end of the Stage Production arc, and how he was able to use his role as Giovanni to come to terms with his own feelings of loss.  It seems like the new arc that's starting will be more low-key than previous ones, but I'm interested to see what Matsuki and Usazaki bring to the table this time.


4. The Promised Neverland
An obvious choice here.  I've been enjoying the recent material a lot, and I'm invested more than ever in the coming story events.

5. Teenage Renaissance David
This manga is just plain hilarious and a treat to read every week.  While it has a fair amount of lewd humor, it's balanced perfectly with a quirky cast of characters that each enhance the comedy in their own way.  I love it so much!

6. Jujutsu Kaisen
I really regret brushing off this series initially, becaused damn did it get some legs.  Itadori's self-sacrificing motivation makes him stand out among other battle-shonen protagonists, and the conflicting dynamic he has with Sukuna is very well done. I'm happy with the direction that the series is going in, and I hope Akutami will keep it up.

7. Black Clover
While Black Clover is very by-the-books, I think that's a lot of its charm.  I love the action sequences and the general rush of adrenaline it provides while reading it.  It's just a really fun manga.

8. MHA
The recent twists with Deku's quirk have me slightly concerned, but I feel that Horikoshi has more than proven his ability to handle this material well.  Overall, it's a very enjoyable read.

9. One Piece
The Whole Cake Island and Wano arcs have been a huge turnaround for the series in comparison to Dressrosa.  I hope Oda can keep it up!

10. Dr. Stone
This may be an unpopular opinion, but I feel like Dr. Stone tends to slog between major events.  That being said, I love its cast of characters and Senku's crazy inventions help keep my attention even in its less-interesting moments.

11. We Never Learn
We Never Learn has done a great job of not falling into the romantic "stalemate" trap that so many other rom-coms have experience.  Yuiga is also a genuinely interesting protagonist, and the recent events in the series seem to signify that Taishi does intend to give his character arc a proper pay off, which is nice to see.

12. Haikyu
The recent Fukurodani match didn't interest me too much outside of some key moments with Akaashi and Bokuto, but I'm so far intrigued with Karasuno's match with Kammomedai, so hopefully it will keep up the pace.

13. I'm From Japan
Like David, this series is a hilarious read every week.  That being said, a lot of the jokes are very Japanese-centric, so some of them don't land as well with English speakers in comparison to David's European-centric humor.  Still, it's a lot of fun and I'm looking forward to the anime in April.

14. Ne0;lation
I love the unique things that Ne0 manages to do with technology.  It's a real shame that it doesn't seem to be gaining much of an audience in Japan, because I feel like it still has a lot of potential.

15. Yuuna and the Haunted Hot Springs
For an ecchi manga, Yuuna has a surprisingly well developed cast and a protagonist who doesn't feel like a blank slate or self-insert.  The recent material has also focus more on the actual plot progression of the series, and has been very satisfying so far.
16. Food Wars
My enjoyment of the series has severely waned since the end of the central arc, but I'm still invested in the cast of characters.  I kinda hope the series ends after this arc, because I just don't see it regaining my interest.
17. Chainsaw Man
This manga is super trashy but that's a part of its charm.  I'm still not sure where the series is going, but considering how well it's selling in Japan, it seems like it'll have more than enough time to do whatever it wants.
18. Hell Warden Higuma
Higuma has a lot of great ideas, but I feel its hindered by the over-saturation of exorcist-esque that exists currently.  It's a good series, but it just doesn't have legs.

19. Boruto
This is mainly at the bottom because I'm just not as invested in it when compared to other series.  I will say though, that I have been enjoying the recent material with Kawaki, and his dynamic with both Naruto and Boruto has been quite interesting.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 08, 2019, 11:56:43 AM
I'm not going to lie, I find Food Wars ironically entertaining to read for how much of a trainwreck the latest arc has been. Trust me, people who say that this series is the new Bleach in terms of its rapid decline in quality are not exaggerating. It really has gotten that atrociously bad, but I can't help but laugh and anticipate what methods Tsukuda Yuto will find to bring his manga down to new lows each week.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on March 08, 2019, 02:20:49 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #15, 2019
Yui Kamio Lets Loose (Cover + Lead CP, New Series by Shiibashi Hiroshi)
1. One Piece
2. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
3. The Promised Neverland
The Last Saiyuki (CP)
4. Dr. Stone
5. My Hero Academia
We Never Learn (CP)
6. Haikyu!!
7. Black Clover
8. Jujutsu Kaisen
9. Act-Age
Hinomaru Sumo (CP)
10. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
11. Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings
I'm From Japan
12. Chainsaw-man
13. Hell Warden Higuma
14. ne0;lation
Teenage Renaissance! David

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #16, 2019:
Cover + Lead CP: Black Clover
CP: Dr. Stone, Act-Age, Yui Kamio Lets Loose

It looks like we aren't getting any cancellations this time around, which I guess makes sense since 20 weekly series is the max capacity that WSJ usually does.  Samurai 8 is still slated for this spring though, so I don't expect Ne0 and/or Higuma to last much longer.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 08, 2019, 03:31:31 PM
Well, SNS seems to be rushing to it's ending (I will be genuinely surprised if it doesn't end after this arc), and Hinomaru seems to be winding down too, so I think that makes at least two slots that will be freed up within the year. That said, it doesn't look like either neo or HWH will last much longer, regardless.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on March 08, 2019, 04:01:24 PM
Yuuna and We Never Learn are also very close to ending, so they'll probably be done by the end of the year as well.  I think Hinomaru Sumo might linger into next year, since there seems to be 6-8 essential matches left that need to be shown in the tournament (assuming that Kawada goes through with the four-way tie-breaker he's been hinting at).  Out of all the long-running series though, I think Food Wars will be the first to go.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 09, 2019, 01:32:08 AM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 08, 2019, 11:56:43 AM
I'm not going to lie, I find Food Wars ironically entertaining to read for how much of a trainwreck the latest arc has been. Trust me, people who say that this series is the new Bleach in terms of its rapid decline in quality are not exaggerating. It really has gotten that atrociously bad, but I can't help but laugh and anticipate what methods Tsukuda Yuto will find to bring his manga down to new lows each week.

I'm overall more positive on Food Wars! than you are, but the rushed pacing of this arc screams Tsukuda throwing every idea he has at the wall in a desperate bid to regain readership but having to change directions constantly when it doesn't work out. I think there's still been good moments here and there, but the story structure and pacing's been a mess. I really wish the series ended with the Central arc, which in spite of its tiresome length, ended on a strong and satisfying note that would've been perfect to send the series off. At this point, I really just hope Tsukada doesn't drop the ball on a Soma vs. Erina shokugeki, which has always been the way I imagined how the series would end and I'll be really sad if he doesn't pull it off.

If I were to rank everything I'm reading from WSJ like VLord in terms of my interest and enjoyment at the moment, right now I'm feeling:

1. We Never Learn
2. The Promised Neverland
3. Act-Age
4. Dr. Stone
5. Boruto
6. My Hero Academia
7. One Piece
8. Black Clover
9. Jujutsu Kaisen
10. Ne0;lation
11. Chainsaw Man
12. Hell Warden Higuma
13. Food Wars!
14. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
15. Hinomaru Sumo
16. Haikyuu
17. I'm From Japan
18. Teenage Renaissance David

We Never Learn is the series I always find myself reading first when it comes out every week. Unlike some other series, I'm always in the mood to read it and it's been on a great streak of funny but heartfelt chapters. The reason Demon Slayer, Hinomaru Sumo, and Haikyuu are relatively low is because I haven't read the gap in between what's legally available of these series so there's a lot of context/emotional investment I'm missing when I read new chapters, though I still think they're good. I pretty much like everything currently running in Jump. The only reason I'm not reading Yuuna is because it's not being legally simulpublished anywhere.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 09, 2019, 08:46:08 AM
I don't know, man. Jouichiro jobbing to a no-name villain that Tsukuda clearly just pulled out of his ass, especially when he was built up as Soma's main goal really doesn't sit right with me. I'm also not a fan of how he has handled Erina's character this arc. I'm not really a fan of the Central saga either, but at least it did a few good things like giving Erina some meaningful development. However, it's like Tsukuda wanted to hit the reset switch on that just to set-up for a moment where Soma snaps her out of her bitch mode (this is clearly what's being set up here), and undoes over a hundred chapters of character development in an instant. I really think that Tsukuda has an issue as a writer when it comes to his use of villains, and honestly SNS is the kind of series that thrives on rivalries but falls to pieces when he tries to insert straight up bad guys into it. Asahi is a clear example of this, by far being the most poorly thought-out and terribly written characters that I've seen from any manga in quite a long while. Od argue that he isn't even a real character as much as he is a plot device.

Additionally, this arc can only narratively make any sense if Soma wins the tournament. Yet, nothing I've seen makes me the slightest bit convinced that he'd be anywhere near good enough to do it without a BS last-minute power-up, which I'm fully expecting Tsukuda to do at this point because he's written himself into a corner and tends to give Soma way too much plot-armor.

Also, I've been wanting to catch up on Act-Age but Viz has not been publishing any of the missing chapters like they said they would. I may just end up reading them on illegal sites at this point so I can at least catch up with the current legal releases.

Chainsawman has been a pleasant surprise for me so far. It's the kind of manga that would be your typical trashy edge-lord shit if it wasn't as clearly self-aware as it was. It knows it's schlocky and plays up to that, which ends up kind of being part of it's appeal since it doesn't take itself way too seriously and instead just revels in it's own absurdity.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on March 13, 2019, 11:39:24 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #16, 2019
Black Clover (Cover, Lead CP)
1. One Piece
2. My Hero Academia
3. Demon Slayer: Kimestu no Yaiba
4. We Never Learn
Yui Kamio Lets Loose (CP)
5. The Promised Neverland
6. Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings
The Last Saiyuki
Dr. Stone (CP)
7. Jujutsu Kaisen
8. Haikyu!!
9. Chainsaw Man
Teenage Renaissance! David
Act-Age (CP)
10. Hinomaru Sumo
11. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
12. Ne0;lation
13. Hell Warden Higuma
I'm From Japan

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #17, 2019
Cover/Lead CP: One Piece
CP: Haikyu!!, Boruto, Chainsaw Man

Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on March 25, 2019, 01:12:52 AM
Forgot to post this earlier in the week

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #17, 2019

One Piece (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
2. Dr. Stone
3. The Promised Neverland
4. Act-Age
Yui Kamio Lets Loose
Haikyu!! (CP)
5. My Hero Academia
6. Black Clover
The Last Saiyuki
7. Jujutsu Kaisen
Boruto (CP)
8. Hinomaru Sumo
9. We Never Learn
Teenage Renaissance! David
Chainsaw Man (CP)
10. Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings
11. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
12. Hell Warden Higuma
13. ne0;lation
I'm From Japan

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue 18, 2019
Cover/Lead CP: Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
CP: We Never Learn, I'm From Japan, Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba - Tomioka Giyu Gaiden (One Shot by Hirano Ryoji (Bozebeats))

Good move to on WSJ's part to give all the series getting anime in the spring season CPs in the next issue.  I'm also hoping Viz will translate the Giyu side-story chapter.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on March 28, 2019, 01:59:59 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #18, 2019
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba (Cover & LCP)
1. The Promised Neverland
2. One Piece
3. Black Clover
4. My Hero Academia
We Never Learn (CP)
5. Hinomaru Sumo
6. Jujutsu Kaisen
Yui Kamio Lets Loose
Kimetsu no Yaiba Gaiden (CP)
7. Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings
Risky Magician (CP)
The Last Saiyuki
8. Act-Age
9. Chainsaw Man
I'm From Japan (CP)
10. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
11. Hell Warden Higuma
12. Ne0;lation
Teenage Renaissance! David

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #19, 2019
Cover/Lead CP: We Never Learn
CPs: Black Clover, Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma

Tite Kubo's new project will also be revealed next issue.  That should be interesting...
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 31, 2019, 04:14:04 PM
I normally don't like long, drawn-out fights in battle shonen manga, but hot damn is the Tanjirou/Giyu vs. Akaza fight from KnY one of the best ones in recent memory. The constant back and forth makes the situation really intense, especially since this series isn't shy about killing off supporting characters like the Pillars. I legit felt like there were several moments in this battle that could've been Giyu's last. And likewise, whenever things are going in favor of the good guys, it can take only an instant for the villain to turn the tide back against them through their own skill and cleverness. There have been so many close calls on both sides, but I do have a feeling that Tanjirou's last strike in this chapter was at least a serious one, if not a definitive killing blow.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on April 03, 2019, 01:36:18 PM
EDIT: Apparently the earlier ToC was a fake.  Just corrected it.  :sweat:   
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #19, 2019
We Never Learn (Cover/Lead CP)
1. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
2. Dr. Stone
3. The Promised Neverland
4. Haikyu!!
5. Jujutsu Kaisen
Black Clover (CP)
6. Hinomaru Sumo
7. Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba - Giyu Tomioka Gaiden (31p, 2nd Part)
8. My Hero Academia
The Last Saiyuki
9. Act-Age
10. Chainsaw Man
Yui Kamio Lets Loose
Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma (CP)
I'm From Japan
11. Hell Warden Higuma
12. Ne0;lation
Teenage Renaissance David


Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #20, 2019
Cover/Lead CP: The Promised Neverland
CPs: Hinomaru Sumo, Act-Age, Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on April 19, 2019, 12:33:23 AM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #20, 2019
The Promised Neverland (Cover, Lead CP)
1. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
2. Dr. Stone
3. One Piece
4. My Hero Academia
5. Haikyu!!
6. We Never Learn
Act-Age (CP)
The Last Saiyuki
7. Black Clover
Yui Kamio Lets Loose
8. Jujutsu Kaisen
Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings (CP)
9. Chainsaw Man
10. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
Hinomaru Sumo (CP)
Teenage Renaissance! David
11. Hell Warden Higuma
12. Ne0;lation
I'm From Japan

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #21, 2019
Jujutsu Kaisen (Cover/Lead CP)
1. The Promised Neverland
2. One Piece
3. Dr. Stone
4. Black Clover
Haikyu (Color)
5. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
6. The Last Saiyuki
7. We Never Learn
Boruto (Color)
8. My Hero Academia
9. Hinomaru Sumo
Yui Kamio Lets Loose
Act-Age (Color)
10. Chainsaw Man
11. Yuuna
I'm From Japan
12. Hell Warden Higuma
13. Shokugeki no Soma
14. Ne0;lation
Teenage Renaissance! David

Looks like Saiyuki is placing high in the ToC, which is a very good sign!  Samurai 8 is supposed to start next month, alongside another new series, so we should see some series ending soon (probably Ne0 and Higuma).
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on April 23, 2019, 01:58:56 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #22/23, 2019
One Piece (Lead CP)
1. The Promised Neverland
2. Dr. Stone
3. We Never Learn
Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba (CP)
4. Jujutsu Kaisen
5. Black Clover
6. Yui Kamio Lets Loose
7. Chainsaw Man
To LOVE-ru -Rito to Ayaka no Houkago- (CP/25p)
8. Act-Age
9. My Hero Academia
10. Haikyu!!
Teenage Renaissance! David
11. The Last Saiyuki
12. Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings
13. Hinomaru Sumo
Gisou Buden (CP/47p)
14. Ne0;lation (End)
15. Food Wars: Shokeugeki no Soma
16. Hell Warden Higuma
I'm From Japan

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #24, 2019

New Series, Cover, & LCP: Samurai 8 (72p)
CP: Haikyu!!, Jujutsu Kaisen, Dr. Stone

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #25, 2019
New Series: Futari no Taisei by Kentaro Fukuda (Devilyman)

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #26, 2019
New Series: Beast Children by Kento Terasaka

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #27, 2019
New Series: Tokyo Shinobi Squad by Yuki Tanaka (story) & Kento Matsura (art)

Looks like Yui Kamio is also staying high in the ToC.  Four new series are coming, so we're bound to see some series end in the next few weeks.

EDIT: Looks like Ne0 ends in this issue.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on May 08, 2019, 09:55:42 PM
Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #24, 2019
Samurai 8: The Tale of Hachimaru (Cover & LCP)
1. One Piece
2. The Promised Neverland
3. Demon Slayer: Kimetsu no Yaiba
Dr. Stone (CP)
4. We Never Learn
5. Black Clover
6. Act-Age
7. Chainsaw Man
Jujutsu Kaisen (CP)
8. Yui Kamio Lets Loose
9. My Hero Academia
10. Hinomaru Sumo
Teenage Renaissance! David
Haikyu!! (CP)
11. Yuuna and the Haunted Hotsprings
12. The Last Saiyuki
13. Gokutei Higuma (END)
14. Food Wars: Shokugeki no Soma
I'm From Japan

Weekly Shonen Jump Issue #25, 2019
Cover & LCP: Futari no Taisei
CP: Samurai 8 The Tale of Hachimaru, Act-Age, We Never Learn
Break: One Piece; The Promised Neverland

Looks like Yui Kamio is staying high in the ToC, while Saiyuki is sinking to the lower end.  It'll be interesting to see how volume sales turn out for both of them.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on May 08, 2019, 10:56:06 PM
Shame to see Saiyuki doing so poorly. I've actually really been enjoying it so far. I suppose, though, that it has a lot of stiff competition in the battle shonen genre, which is why it so easily gets overshadowed by Jump's mainstays in that department, whereas Yui Kamio stands out in genre compared to most other Jump series.

That said, if I've learned anything from these rankings when it comes to new series, it's that you can't always go by initial impressions. There have been some series that have started out low and gained more popularity over time, though that doesn't happen too often. I'm hoping that Saiyuki can prove to be one of the exceptions.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 01, 2019, 12:33:58 AM
So, take this with a grain of salt because I don't know if it has actually been confirmed yet, but apparently word is going around that Shokugeki no Soma is concluding in just three chapters, which was announced as of the latest WSJ issue. If that's true, then damn did the axe come down hard on this one. I think we were all pretty much expecting it to wrap up within the year, but usually for a 300+ chapter series it tends to at least get a little more advanced notice of when it's ending, so that would really show how bad things are if the series did indeed get that abrupt of an announcement.

That said....I can't really blame Shueisha for making this decision, and if anything it'd be a mercy kill at this point. The series has sharply declined in quality over the past year (and that's after the series had already fallen out of grace with a significant portion of it's fan-base), and it's weekly rankings along with it's volume sales have continued to sink. If anything, it's kind of surprising that it lasted as long as it has up to this point on such weak legs.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 01, 2019, 12:51:25 AM
Usually the advance warning for a Jump series conclusion is about 3 to 5 weeks, so this definitely falls on the lower end of that like when Bleach ended. But yeah, it's been clear from sales and the rankings that Soma's been on the chopping block for a while, and I was fully expecting it to end around this time considering a new batch of serializations have started up and Soma's beaten Asahi. This last arc has been pretty superfluous and poorly thought out in the same way the last arc of Hikaru no Go was, in that the series felt directionless after paying off on the character arcs it had been developing since the beginning of the series and beating its central antagonist, and had to invent a new conflict out of nowhere to keep going and kept changing its mind on what to focus on. There've been a few good moments here and there, but the arc has been unsatisfying overall and the series really should've gone out on the high note the conclusion of the Central arc had instead of trying to keep itself going. That said, I'm hoping there's still enough time to do something somewhat satisfying with Soma v. Erina as far as putting a coda on their relationship and rivalry before the series ends, which is the one thing I've always really wanted out of the series' conclusion.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 01, 2019, 01:42:22 AM
Yeah, but at least with HnG it didn't do anything as dumb as back-pedaling on major character arcs or themes that the series had previously established. It was just another case of a shonen that went on longer than it really needed to.

The thing that feels so insultingly bad about Food Wars is just how damaging the last arc has been to so much of what the series established when it was at it's best. A lot of people really liked Erina's character arc in Central. Even people like me who weren't too keen on that arc and found it to have more flaws than pros would list that as one of the highlights that kept it at least readable. But almost instantly Tsukuda regresses her as a character just to set-up for Soma to "save" her....even though the previous arc subverted that trope by having her be inspired by Soma to save herself. Now she might as well be a typical damsel-in-distress. And I'm not saying that character regression arcs can't be interesting or done well, but it does still have to be the result of reasonable development, however just like Jamie's abysmally disappointing regression in GOT's final season, this all just comes off as really forced and contrived. Likewise, as many people have pointed out, the whole Central series of arcs was heavily focused on Erina as a character and people really wanted a bit of a break from that. However we were immediately thrust into yet another arc about her stupid family drama. There's a reason a bunch of fans have begun jokingly referring to the series as Shokugeki no Erina or Keeping up with the Nakiris.

Likewise, I absolutely detest Asahi as a plot device. I would call him one of the worst villains that I have ever seen in a manga, but I don't want to even give him the credit of acknowledging him as a character. He's nothing more than a plot device with a cheap stock personality that makes you want to punch him in the face rather than an interesting foil for Soma and Erina that Tsukuda probably wanted him to be. Keep in mind that with the exception of Hayama, Soma was never shown to have surpassed any of his other major rivals from the series in one-on-one duels, like Kuga, Shinomiya, Tsukasa, or his dad (who was only built up since the first fucking chapter of the manga). Asahi literally only exists as a way for him to defeat one opponent who is supposedly better than all of those other characters so that Soma can say he has surpassed all of his rivals by proxy. However on top of being a thoroughly unsatisfying resolution to those rivalries, it also rings hollow and feels like complete bull-shit. I had absolutely no emotional reaction to Soma's defeat of Asahi, which is supposed to be the penultimate match of the entire series. That's pretty darn bad for a series that was once a fan-favorite in WSJ.

If Tuskuda plans to keep having a manga career after this whole fiasco, he really needs to learn from all of the mistakes that he started making from Central onward, as it caused a cascading downward spiral that he could eventually never recover from. Once good manga falling apart as the series progresses is nothing new by any means, especially for WSJ, but I don't know that I've seen too many other series (besides the most obvious example) that have fallen quite as hard as this one has.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 01, 2019, 03:47:16 AM
I definitely agree the execution has been messy, though my problem with it is more that I was never convinced Erina was ever really in need of saving. While I definitely don't like that she's been treated like a prize to be won in the rivalry between Soma and Asahi, there was never any indication that Asahi could've actually beaten Erina, and she still participated in the Blue on her own terms. And even if Asahi beat her, it's not like he can force Erina to marry him, so those stakes have felt completely flat throughout the arc (beyond just being uninteresting in their own right). What's added personal stakes for Erina in all of this is her mother's involvement and her wanting to win the Blue to make her mother eat her cooking, and I feel that situation can only be resolved with her making a dish that her mother accepts, which is how I'm hoping this plays out and think could still be satisfying.

As far as her character arc regressing, even though Megumi claims in-series that Erina is "worse than she was before," the way in which she regressed in a bit more nuanced. At the start of the series, Erina thought of herself as a perfect cook and looked down on other people and dismissed their skills in cooking. Her character arc in central was letting go of that perception of herself as superior and learning to appreciate other people and their idiosyncrasies and imperfections, and enjoy cooking instead of viewing it as an exercise of perfection. In her match with Takumi, she only chastises him for not teaming up with his brother to take her on, upset that he isn't taking the challenge of facing her seriously by using all the tools at his disposal, because after talking with her mother and realizing the situation winning the Blue has become a personal matter for her. At the end, she doesn't criticize Takumi's dish - it's her dish that she's disgusted by and dumps in the trash. And it's not like we've seen her treat her friends poorly or anything - she's just been cold and kept to herself because understandably she's feeling a lot of negative emotions right now. So it's not like she's become the same arrogant and uptight character she was at the start of the series. The "regression" she experiences is specifically that she's not enjoying the act of cooking like she has been since befriending Soma and co., and I think that's pretty understandable under the circumstances - confronting her absentee mother who treats her like dirt and dismisses her cooking ability and who blames her for not being able to enjoy food anymore, which understandably resurfaced a ton of bitterness and resentment. Having dealt with an abusive parent, I can empathize with the emotions we've seen her dwelling in and think the self-hating way she's been lashing out has been very believable. This kind of emotional relapse makes sense for someone who has suffered trauma and been a victim of abuse like Erina has. Honestly, I think Erina's arc is the one thing that's been consistent throughout the entire series, and her relationship with her mother has been the one idea I've really liked in this arc.

As far as how other fans feel about Erina's prominence in the series, I guess that's just a matter of different interests. I like Soma, I get he's who the series is named after and whatever, but Erina's always been the character whose development I've been most interested and invested in. I wish the series had been Shokugeki no Erina from the start! But that said, it's not like the focus on her is unwarranted either - she's the deuteragonist of the series, and the central relationship/rivalry between her and Soma has been in play since the very beginning. It's not like Soma's been out of the spotlight or anything, the story has still been plenty about him - it's just that he's so frustratingly flippant about everything that's been going on it feels like none of this has mattered to him. Erina's desire to make her mother acknowledge her is really the only thing providing this arc with any sort of emotional stakes that can be satisfyingly resolved, though whether it will be remains to be seen.

I completely agree about Asahi through. Very unsatisfying and lazily developed proxy for Soma to vicariously beat his other rivals. I do think the flashback in the recent chapter provided a nugget of an interesting idea to his character - that he sought to marry Erina in envy of Joichiro's family, feeling emotionally unfulfilled and hoping to achieve the same happiness that Joichiro has by starting a family of his own - focusing on his idea that he'll find the most satisfaction in himself and his cooking if he has someone to cook for. Now if only this had been established beforehand and was actually developed like a proper character arc instead of tacked on at the end to try and make his actions more sensible in retrospect.  :??:

For as much as I haven't enjoyed this arc, I haven't really soured on the series or think Tsukuda's ruined his career as a mangaka or anything. I think he's just made a lot of bad choices, and it's felt like his editors have also been giving him bad ideas and forcing him to keep changing how the story is paced and what the goal and stakes are too. I enjoyed the series a lot at its peak and still do, but I don't really feel "insulted" by this arc. I just think its ideas have been mostly kinda lame, with the conflict between Erina and her mother the one good idea I've been able to be invested in. I haven't really been able to get mad at it the same way I fumed about Naruto and Bleach all those years ago, and that might just be because nowadays I think most long-running shonen series at their worst are only ever just boring. For as many bad ideas as it's had, it's not like the series has been expressing any sort of hateful ideology or toxic messages or anything - it's just a dumb manga about people cooking with chainsaws and stealing knives. So with FW, this arc really has felt like the final arc of HnG to me in being just kinda an unnecessary extension of a series that had a good place to end and didn't really know what to do with itself afterward. I've just never gotten angry at it, only bored or disappointed.



Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 01, 2019, 08:58:21 AM
As I said before, I don't necessarily have a problem with character regression in and of itself. You can call it nuanced, but to me the reason it doesn't work is due to the rushed nature of the story-telling. I'm well-aware of how this version of Erina is supposed to be different from her previous pre-central self, but the reason it loses any real impact on me other than pissing me off is because we spent nearly a hundred chapters of Erina essentially moving past her childhood trauma and becoming a better person for it. The hope was that the next arc would further explore Erina as an overall better person and a leader, but instead Tsukuda almost immediately turned her into a depressed husk of her former self to be a trophy to be fought over. It lacks the kind of impact that he probably intended because he didn't first take the time to establish a new status quo where Erina was being light-hearted and friendly with everyone. I mean, yes, we got maybe a few chapters of that, but not nearly enough for it to mean anything when all this shit went down. You can even tell that Tsukuda realized this and had to hastily include a quick flash-back scene to show how happy she was during the months that were time-skipped in the story (personally, I would have rather read about that than all of this nonsense). Also, with the Takumi match, he clearly was taking it seriously. He has a thing called pride and would rather lose with his own strength than use an unfair advantage. You just said that the purpose of Erina's character arc in Central was to shed her superiority complex and accept her friends, and that this arc didn't backpedal on that, yet she openly insults Takumi for not using his brother because of the "level of difference in their skills" and then proceeds to call her own dish trash after utterly destroying Takumi's efforts. How is that not incredibly insulting and condescending to her opponent?

And I understand you're rationale for why Erina's character arc here is supposed to be understandable since deep down she wants to be able to please her mother with her own cooking. I don't have a problem with this in concept, but rather in execution. I find it hard to give a shit about a character's plight that was never previously foreshadowed or alluded to earlier in the series and was clearly pulled out of thin air to try and boost ratings. May I remind you that this whole sub-plot regarding Erina's relationship with her mother was introduced less than 20 chapters ago and now somehow has to be concluded within just three more in addition to the rest of the entire series. It's really hard for me to care about or empathize with her situation as a character when it's so half-assedly rushed through and so poorly thought out. Like, if this was such a big part of her childhood trauma, how the fuck does it not come up during the very arc dealing with her childhood trauma in Central? And I think that we both know that the clear answer is that Tsukuda clearly hadn't come up with this idea until just recently, but it's so poorly woven into the overarching story of the series that it feels on par with one of those very lazy Toriyama retcons that you'd get in the later years of Dragonball.

Also, I should clarify that people jokingly referring to the series as Shokugeki no Erina isn't because they think that she takes the spotlight away from Soma. It's because she also renders almost all other established supporting characters completely useless. Keep in mind that all of Erina's family drama and this Asahi BS has essentially come at the cost of both Megumi and Takumi's character arcs. Takumi's longstanding rivalry with Soma was essentially wrapped up in a half-assed flashback. And all of that talk about Megumi's untapped potential amounted to absolutely nothing. Let's all take a second to realize that she has essentially lost her last two major matches of the entire manga, and the very last one didn't even show her actually cooking! It just skipped straight to the results! The one match that we did see her win was also completely off-screened except for one cheap fan-service panel. And come to think of it, why couldn't we have seen Soma take on Takumi and Tsukasa here in Blue? It's literally set up for it as a tournament arc. Why did one have to get fed to Erina and the other be fodder for Asahi when they were both well-established rivals of Soma? It's not like either Erina or Asahi needed to be hyped up anymore as we had already previously been demonstrated how top-tier their skills were.

Keep in mind, Erina is far from my only problem with the arc and she's not even the biggest one. We are both fans of battle and sports shonen series, and I think we can both agree that one of the most appealing aspects of these kinds of series is seeing the protagonist overcome hurdle after hurdle as well as surpassing strong opponents after past defeats, one at a time, getting stronger by a level of progress with each battle. With Soma, though, he never solo'd ANY of his past defeats before Asahi except for Hayama, and then all of a sudden he's given a single win which is supposed to put him above all of those opponents in one shot. Personally, I would have rather seen the version where he actually rises through the ranks naturally. Which, while I'm at it, yes, I think it was complete BS and totally unearned that he became first seat at the end of Central. I would have complained about the people at Blue not taking the first seat of a highly esteemed and well established and regarded institution seriously enough, but at least on that front I can't really complain given the questionable circumstances of how he even got that position in the first place.

I also was never a fan of Erina as headmaster, or how OP she was written to be in general. I could completely buy her as by far the best student in Tootsuki's entire history, but to put her above the level of far more seasoned and experienced chefs just feels wrong to me, God-Tongue or not. How much more interesting would it have been if she was made first seat instead, but still had to work on equal footing with her newfound friends through various challenges that even put her advanced abilities to the test, and she further bonded with her classmates that way?

I can respect your opinion on the matter at hand, but I personally just can't get behind any of the writing or decisions made for this arc. I personally can't put HnG's final arc on the same level as this one because to me it's only real crime was being ultimately kind of meaningless, but the same is true for a lot of shonen that go on a bit too long. Nothing stood out to me as outright atrocious about it. I've given my reasons here, but I do personally think that the Blue arc really damages a lot of what was good about the series to the point where I don't even feel like going back to the earlier stuff knowing that certain things that I was looking forward to will never pan out in a satisfying way.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 01, 2019, 02:35:09 PM
I agree with you that the pacing has been rushed, which hasn't allowed the storytelling to progress naturally and come at the expense of good ideas and characters falling to the wayside. We really didn't need to have Takumi job to Erina or Tsukasa and Megumi job to Asahi, since we already knew they were skilled. Megumi getting the shaft, in particular, bummed me out, since she's she's second only to Erina in being my favorite character and having the best character development in the series, and it's a shame we'll never get to see her reach her full potential now.

To me the story choices made in the series these past few months have been a clear sign that Tsukuda was given the heads up to wrap the series up a few months back, and has been scrambling to get rid of the characters he didn't know what to do with to focus on the central conflict between Soma and Asahi and Erina and her mother as quickly as possible, and he made the worst decisions on what to do with those characters with the time he had left. In general, I think it's pretty unfortunate that so much of FW's cast has gotten the shaft because of lack of time, planning, and probable editorial interference. Though, I can't blame him for wanting to prioritize Erina as a character over the rest of the supporting cast knowing the series was heading towards the end, considering she is the deuteragonist and the relationship between her and Soma has been at the series' core since it's beginning, so the pieces needed to fall into place to get to a conclusion where that gets resolved. It's not surprising to me that he would also decide to introduce characters like Erina's mother and Soma's mother to just execute those long-standing story ideas and try his best to integrate them meaningfully into the story, even though the way it's been done leaves a lot to be desired. I don't agree with most of the story decisions in this arc, but I can sorta understand the thought process behind them, as flawed as that thought process has been.

I'll also clarify that I think Erina's relationship with her mother and that development in her arc is a good idea, which isn't to say I think it's one that's been developed that well. I agree the execution has been too rushed to really let it develop, and I would've preferred if we'd have had more arcs depicting Erina's growth as a leader and if more direct foreshadowing of the emotional scars her mother's absence inflicted upon her had been established. I also wish there wasn't a time skip and we could've had an arc directly after the fall of central to see Erina adjust into her new administrative role while the other characters fought over seats on the Council and we saw them really earn those spots, which could've been a lot of fun and a satisfying a way to have matches that won't get payed off on at this point like Soma v. Takumi or even a 1v1 Soma v. Tsukasa before the latter graduated. But I actually really liked Erina becoming the Dean and I think they could've done plenty of interesting things with her in that kind of administrative role, taking the charge on dealing with other threats both internal to Totsuki and from other culinary institutions in the world, coming up with strategies to deal with Totsuki's foes from behind the scenes while Soma and co. fought shokugekis on the front lines. It seemed like that was the direction it was supposed to go at the start of this arc and it's a shame that Tsukuda didn't follow through with that.


Though I will say that I interpreted Erina and Takumi's exchange before their match much differently, and actually liked it a lot as a character moment for her. When she asks Takumi why he isn't cooking with his brother, it's in the context of what she knows her mother is interested in  "The Book Master is, I'm sure...quite enamored with your freakish talent for cooperative cooking. Why not put it on display for her?" While she's giving Takumi a backhanded compliment here, the way she frames her question makes it clear that what she's really upset and thinking about is that her mother is interested in everyone else's skills but dismisses her own. She doesn't say Takumi needs his brother to beat her because he's not skilled enough, she just asks why he's not using the advantage that she knows her mother permitted. If Takumi had responded he thought he could beat Erina without his brother, maybe her response would be different, but he doesn't say that. He admits Erina is "more skilled than [he] is right now" and that he wants to "give this [his] all, challenging [himself] against [his] betters." The way Takumi states his case here makes it seem like he isn't going into this match with the intention of beating Erina, just to "challenge" her. Of course, that isn't wrong of him to want to do - like you said, he has his own pride and thinks teaming up with his brother would be unfair against one opponent. But for Takumi, he's only going into this match for the challenge, while Erina is bringing much more baggage into it. Winning the Blue has become a personal matter for her - she wants to win to prove to her mother her cooking prowess, so understandably she's become competitive. Erina responds to Takumi by saying "If you truly mean to beat me, you wouldn't spout drivel at me like that!" - and she's not wrong, because from Takumi's words it seems like winning was not his priority, when it is for Erina and under these circumstances it makes sense why she would be upset that he isn't being more competitive, at least from her perspective, which is I think the key thing to keep in mind. From our perspective as the reader we know that Takumi doesn't take Erina lightly, but her headspace is in the wrong place because she has tunnel vision stewing over her interaction with her mother just minutes before. Never once does she directly criticize Takumi's cooking ability, and she doesn't even imply that they are on different skill levels. Really, what she's mad about is that he says his skills are lesser than hers and isn't going into the match with the intention of beating her, which I think makes sense for her to feel upset by considering the circumstances. Sure, calling her own dish trash after beating Takumi is bad sportsmanship, but she clearly has other things on her mind right now, and I think the way that's been expressed through her interactions with other characters and her actions have been believable. We might just have to disagree on this, but this is how I interpreted the scene personally. One thing I will say is that even though I haven't liked how the characters have been used in this arc, I also haven't felt they've done anything out of character or made a bad decision that I wouldn't expect them to make (not that they haven't made any bad decisions at all, just ones that I can buy that they would), so I'll give Tsukuda credit for that at least.

I dunno, while I agree the arc has been a mess, it hasn't soured me on the series as a whole. I haven't felt anything in it has really hurt my appreciation for the earlier stuff that would discourage me from rereading it. Maybe a few years ago that would've been the case - I remember we argued about this once with the final arc of Kuroko's Basketball before, where I claimed that I wouldn't be able to recommend the series because of how much I hated that final match. But I don't really stand by that stance anymore, and my perspective on long-running series have changed since then, where I'm more willing to separate a series highs from its lows, especially if there is a clear stopping point between arcs where I feel I've gotten everything I've wanted out of the story and the stuff beyond is just a bonus I can take or leave. For me, Food Wars! reached its emotional climax when they beat Central and Erina victoriously said "Happy to serve!" standing center in that big two-page spread of all the protagonists, and since then the only thing I've really wanted to see happen since has been Megumi getting a win to show off her skills and Soma v. Erina as the final match of the series, and at this point I'm just hoping I'll at least like the latter well enough.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 01, 2019, 03:08:28 PM
I was also looking forward to Soma vs. Erina, but I'm not quite sure how it's possible for Tsukuda to make anything satisfying come out of it when he only has three chapters left. While we as readers have been informed of the series ending just now, Tsukuda would have been notified of it months ago, as you proposed. I would imagine it was during the beach exams arc which would explain why he abruptly cut that short and rushed straight into Blue out of seemingly nowhere.

That said, if he knew about this then it begs the question of why he saw fit to give Soma vs. Asahi so many chapters as opposed to a match that was significantly more foreshadowed and hyped since early on in the series.

As for predictions, I personally like the prediction that some fans have brought up that this match won't end with a real winner, but instead Soma will try and make a dish to compliment Erina's and through their combined efforts will create a synergy that impresses Erina's mother with a flavor that's completely new to her, or at least that snaps her out of her condition. It would call back to the RdC finals, but instead of making two dishes that clash in an interesting way, Soma will show some of his own character growth and forgoe simply winning the match in order to help Erina. He stated that his inheritance of Yukihira (the restaurant) would be on the line with him having to win the whole competition, but prioritizing cooking for someone important to him over his own personal goals will both fulfill his father's advice from the beginning of the series and at least make it feel like his character finally learned something about life from his time in Tootsuki. In doing so, this may snap Erina out of her depression and she would essentially return the favor by fulfilling one of his other major goals to have her admit that he is a good chef.

That is, of course, wishful thinking on my part. I honestly have no clue how Tsukuda will really end all of this given how little time is left.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Painted Outlaw on June 01, 2019, 10:47:16 PM
So, according to this (https://i.imgur.com/nlu6j0y.png), Boruto is filling the hole Shougeki is going to leave open. Looks like it's seeming more likely now that SnS having only 3 more chapters is true.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 01, 2019, 11:28:15 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 01, 2019, 03:08:28 PM
I was also looking forward to Soma vs. Erina, but I'm not quite sure how it's possible for Tsukuda to make anything satisfying come out of it when he only has three chapters left. While we as readers have been informed of the series ending just now, Tsukuda would have been notified of it months ago, as you proposed. I would imagine it was during the beach exams arc which would explain why he abruptly cut that short and rushed straight into Blue out of seemingly nowhere.

That said, if he knew about this then it begs the question of why he saw fit to give Soma vs. Asahi so many chapters as opposed to a match that was significantly more foreshadowed and hyped since early on in the series.

As for predictions, I personally like the prediction that some fans have brought up that this match won't end with a real winner, but instead Soma will try and make a dish to compliment Erina's and through their combined efforts will create a synergy that impresses Erina's mother with a flavor that's completely new to her, or at least that snaps her out of her condition. It would call back to the RdC finals, but instead of making two dishes that clash in an interesting way, Soma will show some of his own character growth and forgoe simply winning the match in order to help Erina. He stated that his inheritance of Yukihira (the restaurant) would be on the line with him having to win the whole competition, but prioritizing cooking for someone important to him over his own personal goals will both fulfill his father's advice from the beginning of the series and at least make it feel like his character finally learned something about life from his time in Tootsuki. In doing so, this may snap Erina out of her depression and she would essentially return the favor by fulfilling one of his other major goals to have her admit that he is a good chef.

That is, of course, wishful thinking on my part. I honestly have no clue how Tsukuda will really end all of this given how little time is left.

I really love that theory! I think that would be the most satisfying resolution to the lingering threads that need to be resolved between Soma and Erina and showcase how they've grown since the beginning of the series. Crossing my fingers that they go in a direction like that.

I think the series really started to feel like it was entering "final arc" territory when Erina's mother was introduced a few months back. Before that, the focus had kept shifting early on in the arc, but to me that read as editorial interference - ill-thought-out attempts to spice things up to attract more reader interest. The way in which the series sped to get to Asahi vs Soma very shortly after Erina's mom came into the picture after having spent a lot more time on the matches early in the Blue signaled to me something was up and that Tsukuda was trying to get to the climax of the arc - and the end of the series - as fast as possible.

Quote from: Painted Outlaw on June 01, 2019, 10:47:16 PM
So, according to this (https://i.imgur.com/nlu6j0y.png), Boruto is filling the hole Shougeki is going to leave open. Looks like it's seeming more likely now that SnS having only 3 more chapters is true.

Viz's schedule confirms it (https://www.viz.com/shonen-jump-chapter-schedule), though their chapter count is off by two for some reason. I think it's a good move to make Boruto bi-weekly so they can tell more of the story in less time, though I suppose that depends on whether or not the chapters will now be half the length they were before.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 13, 2019, 08:59:40 AM
So SnS/Food Wars just got an announcement with the release of it's final scheduled chapter in Jump that it will be getting a fourth season to finish up the RdC arc and will be running three epilogue chapters in Jump Giga, in case anyone was wondering what the special announcement would be.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on July 16, 2019, 05:52:27 PM
The news has been out for a few days, but Hinomaru Sumo will most likely end in the next issue. (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2019-07-12/hinomaru-sumo-manga-reaches-climax-in-next-chapter-on-july-22/.148949)

Kawada should be able to wrap everything up with the next chapter, so it will hopefully be a satisfying ending.  Overall, I've loved Professional Sumo arc, and if all goes well, Hinomaru will probably end up being a new favorite of mine.
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 24, 2019, 12:34:23 PM
A lot of series have been ending recently in Jump, but not much has been sticking.

Hope they get a hit soon!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: VLordGTZ on August 26, 2019, 05:39:24 PM
So Mission: Yozakura Family debuted yesterday, and I enjoyed it lot!  It's hard to say what direction the story will go in, but I think there is a lot of potential here.  As someone who really liked Poro a few years ago, I'm hoping that Gondaira finally has a hit on their hands!
Title: Re: Currently Running Manga Discussion
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on January 01, 2021, 12:52:47 PM
2020 was quite the year for Shonen Jump, huh?

So many big titles ended - Demon Slayer, Yuuna, The Promised Neverland, Haikyuu, Act-Age, We Never Learn, and Chainsaw Man though technically the latter's just moving online. But now the 6th oldest series in Jump is Mission: Yozakura Family, which only began in late 2019, and over half the lineup is comprised of newbies that started last year. Undead Unluck and Mashle seem like bonafide hits, and some others seem to be doing promisingly, but it's gonna be real interesting to see how the magazine continues to change and reivent itself this year.

My favorite Jump series right now is definitely Jujutsu Kaisen. The Shibuya Incident has been incredible and I'm eager to see where the series goes next. But MHA is also at an interesting turning point for its story that I'm excited to see develop too. So I think things are looking pretty strong for most of the established long-runners right now, and I'm just curious which of the recent newbies will make it big next.