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#21
The Telly / Re: Whatcha Bleedin' Watchin'?
Last post by Dr. Ensatsu-ken - April 11, 2024, 09:30:36 PMI can't really agree that Punk is not a good wrestler. Certainly not when he was in his prime, but even in recent years. He's never been a technical prodigy like Bret Hart or Kurt Angle, and lacks the flashiness of HBK or Seth Rollins, but just about everything he does in the ring makes sense and helps to tell a compelling story. His Dog Collar Match with MJF a couple of years ago is a modern classic, IMO.
To me, if a wrestler can elicit a response from the audience with their promos and make you care about the outcome of a match (whether as a face or heel), then they are doing their job. CM Punk is a polarizing figure but nobody can really deny that he's able to hold the attention of most audiences that he performs in front of, both on the mic and in the ring. So that makes him a successful wrestler in my book.
And let's not forget the fact that it's Drew's obsession with antagonizing Punk that is the crux of this feud. It's impressive how he manages to stay relevant when he isn't even featured on most shows during his recovery.
I agree about Money in the Bank, though. It's a gimmick that cheapens the top titles in the company and frankly should be done away with by the new regime. That said, since Priest already had the briefcase from last year, this was pretty much the best way for it to be used in story-line.
To me, if a wrestler can elicit a response from the audience with their promos and make you care about the outcome of a match (whether as a face or heel), then they are doing their job. CM Punk is a polarizing figure but nobody can really deny that he's able to hold the attention of most audiences that he performs in front of, both on the mic and in the ring. So that makes him a successful wrestler in my book.
And let's not forget the fact that it's Drew's obsession with antagonizing Punk that is the crux of this feud. It's impressive how he manages to stay relevant when he isn't even featured on most shows during his recovery.
I agree about Money in the Bank, though. It's a gimmick that cheapens the top titles in the company and frankly should be done away with by the new regime. That said, since Priest already had the briefcase from last year, this was pretty much the best way for it to be used in story-line.
#22
The Telly / Re: Whatcha Bleedin' Watchin'?
Last post by Mustang - April 10, 2024, 07:44:45 PMQuote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 10, 2024, 01:16:38 PMDid you watch Wrestlemania 40? Just curious.Nope.
QuoteCalling it the best Wrestlemania ever screams of recency bias, IMO, but it was a pretty damn good Wrestlemania overall. I think the most important thing is that it signifies that we are officially done with the Vince McMahon era and are firmly in the Paul Levesque (HHH) era. I'm not going to pretend like everything to come out of Vince's regime was terrible (the person himself can rot away until his final days as far as I'm concerned), as many stuff we all love came out of that era, but it almost always felt like it was despite Vince's influence rather than because of it.
And this is why I'm considering going down a Wrestlemania wormhole. I only remember spurts from some of the main events of the older ones. I would agree that calling it the best is recency bias, BUUUUT, if only 1 or 2 matches were duds from the entire show that might be saying something. Only reason I question it is because of the star power of the old. I want to see if some of those older Wrestlemania's holds up and considering I'm not that same little dude that gets WOW'd by titan's clashing these days (I was a huge fan of Hogan vs Warrior and Piper vs Mr. T) but I'm curious to see if they can get any sort of reaction out of me. I'm 40 and hard to please these days lol.
QuoteAnd Drew McIntyre Vs. Seth Rollins for the World Heavyweight Championship to open up Night 2 was a really solid opening bout, but the aftermath with CM Punk attacking him and Damien Priest cashing in was just A+ storytelling. I can't wait for the feud between them when Punk fully recovers and is back in ring shape. I know you aren't particularly a fan of either, Mustang, but you have seriously been missing out if you haven't seen how good their promos have been over the past few weeks leading up to Wrestlemania. Drew has been on fire on the Mic this year, and Punk continues to be the best talker of any active pro wrestlers working today (Paul Heyman is still the best talker in the business today overall, bar none).
It was this match that caused me to get caught up on everything lol. Oddly enough, it's only Punk that I have a problem with. I know he's a fighter but I was never convinced he was a good wrestler. I have nothing against Damien Priest. Dude is a beast. Nah, my problem is the money in the bank. It was a problem since it became a thing. Hated it with Edge, and I'll hate it until it's gone, but a lot of people were saying this was there match of the night (other being KO, Paul and Orton). As far as Drew goes, I'm still a fan.
Will HHH era get me to hop back in regularly? Nah, especially with them going to Netflix. I'll continue to do my on and off again's. Need a lot more star power in order to get me hooked and they continue to lack that. I am curious to see how much will change going forward though.
#23
The Telly / Re: Whatcha Bleedin' Watchin'?
Last post by Dr. Ensatsu-ken - April 10, 2024, 01:16:38 PMDid you watch Wrestlemania 40? Just curious.
Calling it the best Wrestlemania ever screams of recency bias, IMO, but it was a pretty damn good Wrestlemania overall. I think the most important thing is that it signifies that we are officially done with the Vince McMahon era and are firmly in the Paul Levesque (HHH) era. I'm not going to pretend like everything to come out of Vince's regime was terrible (the person himself can rot away until his final days as far as I'm concerned), as many stuff we all love came out of that era, but it almost always felt like it was despite Vince's influence rather than because of it.
Seriously, though, that main event was a total clusterfuck, but like the best kind of clusterfuck. As a "Pro Wrestling" main event there have been far better ones, but as a spectacle it was basically WWE's version of Avengers: Endgame and I'm not going to pretend like I didn't mark out for all of the appearances on there. Loved the long-term story-telling with Roman opting for Revenge on Rollins rather than taking out Cody when he had the chance, which lead to his downfall at the finish of the match. Say what you will, but it was a pretty memorable 3+ year title run that I doubt we'll ever see anything quite like it again (certainly not for a long time).
The Rock being a heel is something I thought I'd never see again ever since he became a bland, generic Hollywood movie star, but it has been a real treat seeing him play up to being an entitled ass-hole in story-line. That said, it's not quite as good as his Hollywood Rock run from 2003, which felt way more natural and much less rehearsed. Credit where it's due, he did about as good of a job in the ring on the Night 1 main event as you could expect for someone of his age and conditioning who has been away from the business for as long as he has. It wasn't an all-time match my any means, but it was what it needed to be and was undeniably fun to watch.
The Sammy Vs. Gunther match stole the whole show, IMO. It's one of those matches I would show to a non-wrestling fan as a way to get them to understand why people like myself love this stuff when it's at its best.
And Drew McIntyre Vs. Seth Rollins for the World Heavyweight Championship to open up Night 2 was a really solid opening bout, but the aftermath with CM Punk attacking him and Damien Priest cashing in was just A+ storytelling. I can't wait for the feud between them when Punk fully recovers and is back in ring shape. I know you aren't particularly a fan of either, Mustang, but you have seriously been missing out if you haven't seen how good their promos have been over the past few weeks leading up to Wrestlemania. Drew has been on fire on the Mic this year, and Punk continues to be the best talker of any active pro wrestlers working today (Paul Heyman is still the best talker in the business today overall, bar none).
Anyways, it was a pretty great show. Not perfect by any stretch. Some matches were just there, but most were good. The only outright bad match on the entire card for either night was Jimmy Vs. Jey (their whole feud has been a dud for me, honestly), but it was short enough to be just a minor blemish on the quality of the overall show.
Calling it the best Wrestlemania ever screams of recency bias, IMO, but it was a pretty damn good Wrestlemania overall. I think the most important thing is that it signifies that we are officially done with the Vince McMahon era and are firmly in the Paul Levesque (HHH) era. I'm not going to pretend like everything to come out of Vince's regime was terrible (the person himself can rot away until his final days as far as I'm concerned), as many stuff we all love came out of that era, but it almost always felt like it was despite Vince's influence rather than because of it.
Seriously, though, that main event was a total clusterfuck, but like the best kind of clusterfuck. As a "Pro Wrestling" main event there have been far better ones, but as a spectacle it was basically WWE's version of Avengers: Endgame and I'm not going to pretend like I didn't mark out for all of the appearances on there. Loved the long-term story-telling with Roman opting for Revenge on Rollins rather than taking out Cody when he had the chance, which lead to his downfall at the finish of the match. Say what you will, but it was a pretty memorable 3+ year title run that I doubt we'll ever see anything quite like it again (certainly not for a long time).
The Rock being a heel is something I thought I'd never see again ever since he became a bland, generic Hollywood movie star, but it has been a real treat seeing him play up to being an entitled ass-hole in story-line. That said, it's not quite as good as his Hollywood Rock run from 2003, which felt way more natural and much less rehearsed. Credit where it's due, he did about as good of a job in the ring on the Night 1 main event as you could expect for someone of his age and conditioning who has been away from the business for as long as he has. It wasn't an all-time match my any means, but it was what it needed to be and was undeniably fun to watch.
The Sammy Vs. Gunther match stole the whole show, IMO. It's one of those matches I would show to a non-wrestling fan as a way to get them to understand why people like myself love this stuff when it's at its best.
And Drew McIntyre Vs. Seth Rollins for the World Heavyweight Championship to open up Night 2 was a really solid opening bout, but the aftermath with CM Punk attacking him and Damien Priest cashing in was just A+ storytelling. I can't wait for the feud between them when Punk fully recovers and is back in ring shape. I know you aren't particularly a fan of either, Mustang, but you have seriously been missing out if you haven't seen how good their promos have been over the past few weeks leading up to Wrestlemania. Drew has been on fire on the Mic this year, and Punk continues to be the best talker of any active pro wrestlers working today (Paul Heyman is still the best talker in the business today overall, bar none).
Anyways, it was a pretty great show. Not perfect by any stretch. Some matches were just there, but most were good. The only outright bad match on the entire card for either night was Jimmy Vs. Jey (their whole feud has been a dud for me, honestly), but it was short enough to be just a minor blemish on the quality of the overall show.
#24
The Telly / Re: Game of Thrones
Last post by Dr. Ensatsu-ken - April 10, 2024, 12:59:07 PMYeah, that headline quote says it all. I always thought it was a stupid idea because what story could you possibly tell with Jon Snow and the Wildlings being completely detached from the rest of Westeros and also not having any threat of White Walkers to deal with anymore. I mean, at best you could maybe try and do a Vinland Saga style story of Jon Snow trying to manage and lead the group to try and settle down in a place where they could live out their days in peace, but that wouldn't really be the story that the Game of Thrones audience (specifically the TV-only fans) would probably care for. The whole concept screams of some top executives wanting more content with one of the main stars of the show without even the slightest thought of what kind of story could actually carry an entire series.
#25
The Telly / Re: Game of Thrones
Last post by Dr. Insomniac - April 10, 2024, 06:56:10 AM #26
The Telly / Re: Whatcha Bleedin' Watchin'?
Last post by Mustang - April 09, 2024, 02:31:54 PMWWE stuff. Just top 10's from the past 2-3 months to get caught up. Very well aware of Wrestlemania and the matches. I'm being told it's the best Wrestlemania ever. I'm not going to dispute that, but it is causing me to raise an eyebrow. I might go down a Wrestlemania wormhole just to see if the older ones hold up.
#27
General Animation Discussion / Re: Don Hertzfeldt
Last post by Daikun - April 09, 2024, 01:18:22 AM #28
The Telly / Re: Nickelodeon's Live Action
Last post by Daikun - April 08, 2024, 12:37:56 AMThe fifth episode of Quiet on Set has aired and is now streaming on Max.
#29
Nickelodeon / Re: Rugrats
Last post by Dr. Insomniac - April 07, 2024, 07:04:59 PMYeah, what does Paramount+ even have that's new besides a million Star Treks and a bunch of westerns?
#30
Nickelodeon / Re: Rugrats
Last post by Avaitor - April 06, 2024, 10:51:38 AMI'm not that surprised, I've been suspecting that either Paramount+ or Peacock, if not both, will fold and merge with either Amazon or Apple sooner than later. But now that Prime is including ads, they might actually be struggling, too.