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Re: What Are You Currently Playing? 6.65: Neighbor of the Beast
« Reply #1620 on: May 01, 2017, 11:44:45 PM »
Well, you certainly aren't the only one far behind the curve. I'm still trying to catch up to games from last gen while barely even making a dent in this year's output. :D

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Re: What Are You Currently Playing? 6.65: Neighbor of the Beast
« Reply #1621 on: May 02, 2017, 02:24:01 PM »
Last gen, wow, so many great titles that I missed due to Street Fighter 4, but I made sure to play the ones that I needed to play when I was bitching about SF4 lol (The Metal Gears, Devil May Cries, Ninja Gaidens, Uncharteds, etc). This gen it's been big hit after big hit, but at the same time I must admit that outside of Persona 5 I haven't actually had the motivation to play a lot of these games. I think it's something like Foggle stated with Persona 5 (That was you, right?). For me, those titles are Ni-oh and Nier (Can probably add Gravity Rush 2 to that as well). I own both games, but the motivation to play these games aren't there and I was so hype for these titles. I almost want to say these big hitters are coming out (came out) far too quickly especially since I want to take my time (heh) to enjoy a lot of these games, especially since I've been in a bit of a slump with games. I also have to admit that I've been losing a bit of interest in games a tad bit in general.

That being said, Persona 5 scratched that itch that I was missing. Don't know what it was that I thought was missing, but I'm having a blast with this game. I'm getting the hang of it a bit more and while I'm not so much customizing the characters, it's the Persona's themselves that I'm customizing and I like that. I like that a lot. I just might go back and buy the older games just for that aspect alone.
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Re: What Are You Currently Playing? 6.65: Neighbor of the Beast
« Reply #1622 on: May 02, 2017, 02:51:26 PM »
Yeah, that was me, and I totally get it. I'm having trouble getting into Persona 5 and that might be because it launched so close to Yooka-Laylee and Prey, two games which interest me infinitely more. :(

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Re: What Are You Currently Playing? 6.65: Neighbor of the Beast
« Reply #1623 on: May 02, 2017, 03:16:10 PM »
I didn't know Prey was out and assumed Persona would interest you more than it. This turns my world upside down.
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Re: What Are You Currently Playing? 6.65: Neighbor of the Beast
« Reply #1624 on: May 02, 2017, 03:28:04 PM »
I totally understand the feeling. For me it's Nioh that has been devouring most of my time, and games that I would otherwise be really interested in (like RE7, Horizon, Tekken 7, or some upcoming releases) aren't even on the top of my priority list right now.

That said, if Itsuno announces Devil May Cry 5 this year like some people are speculating, then that will pretty much trump any other piece of media that I'm currently invested in, video games or otherwise.

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Re: What Are You Currently Playing? 6.65: Neighbor of the Beast
« Reply #1625 on: May 06, 2017, 02:25:17 AM »
I didn't know Prey was out and assumed Persona would interest you more than it. This turns my world upside down.
I was actually more excited for Persona 5 than Prey for the longest time, but I just can't get into turn-based games (or really long ones) right now.

Anyway, Prey is amazing. Like jaw-droppingly good. I had pretty high expectations for this game given the pedigree and leaked design document but it is fucking sublime. It's full of original ideas, grants the player even more freedom than most games in the same genre (e.g. Deus Ex, Dishonored), and has unparalleled atmosphere/storytelling. Every weapon feels great to use, including a gun which shoot globs of a hardening substance that freezes enemies & lets you climb up any wall, grenades that grind enemies into crafting materials via a black hole, and a foam dart crossbow that has a surprising amount of uses for puzzle-solving & stealth. The level design is stellar both from a gameplay and a narrative standpoint - the Metroidvania-style space station is super fun to explore and every single room is lovingly-crafted to feel organic & lived-in. The aliens & corrupted robots are creepy as hell and the story is really engrossing. The music is by the Doom 4 guy and it's just as awesome. (I haven't even gotten the power that lets you turn into a coffee cup and roll around yet!) Forget being better than the BioShock games, this might even be better than System Shock 2!

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Re: What Are You Currently Playing? 6.65: Neighbor of the Beast
« Reply #1626 on: May 07, 2017, 03:57:05 PM »
I didn't know Prey was out and assumed Persona would interest you more than it. This turns my world upside down.
I was actually more excited for Persona 5 than Prey for the longest time, but I just can't get into turn-based games (or really long ones) right now.

Anyway, Prey is amazing. Like jaw-droppingly good. I had pretty high expectations for this game given the pedigree and leaked design document but it is fucking sublime. It's full of original ideas, grants the player even more freedom than most games in the same genre (e.g. Deus Ex, Dishonored), and has unparalleled atmosphere/storytelling. Every weapon feels great to use, including a gun which shoot globs of a hardening substance that freezes enemies & lets you climb up any wall, grenades that grind enemies into crafting materials via a black hole, and a foam dart crossbow that has a surprising amount of uses for puzzle-solving & stealth. The level design is stellar both from a gameplay and a narrative standpoint - the Metroidvania-style space station is super fun to explore and every single room is lovingly-crafted to feel organic & lived-in. The aliens & corrupted robots are creepy as hell and the story is really engrossing. The music is by the Doom 4 guy and it's just as awesome. (I haven't even gotten the power that lets you turn into a coffee cup and roll around yet!) Forget being better than the BioShock games, this might even be better than System Shock 2!
:o :o :o Wut?! I might have to upgrade my PC.
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Re: What Are You Currently Playing? 6.65: Neighbor of the Beast
« Reply #1627 on: May 11, 2017, 12:36:57 AM »
:o :o :o Wut?! I might have to upgrade my PC.
Missed this post! Anyway, I beat the game last night, and it's the real deal all the way through. The ending is... disappointing, but unfortunately that seems to be the way it always goes with this genre (it was better than BioShock's, Dishonored's, and any Deus Ex's - plus less corny than System Shock 2's - endings, at least). Everything else is wonderful. I got around 28 hours out of the game, losing sleep each night until it was finished, and I loved every minute. Probably going to play it again soon. All in all, I think I really did like it more than System Shock 2, which is quite a feat. If it wasn't for Nier Automata, Prey would absolutely be my favorite game of the year so far. Definitely pick it up if my previous post made it sound cool to you. :)

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Re: What Are You Currently Playing? 6.65: Neighbor of the Beast
« Reply #1628 on: May 11, 2017, 11:36:30 AM »
Still playing a lot of Blazing Star on my Switch. The portability and High Score mode keep me coming back. The game is just a fantastic shmup. Really hope Pulstar arrives sooner than later.
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Re: What Are You Currently Playing? 6.65: Neighbor of the Beast
« Reply #1629 on: May 11, 2017, 08:14:20 PM »
:o :o :o Wut?! I might have to upgrade my PC.
Missed this post! Anyway, I beat the game last night, and it's the real deal all the way through. The ending is... disappointing, but unfortunately that seems to be the way it always goes with this genre (it was better than BioShock's, Dishonored's, and any Deus Ex's - plus less corny than System Shock 2's - endings, at least). Everything else is wonderful. I got around 28 hours out of the game, losing sleep each night until it was finished, and I loved every minute. Probably going to play it again soon. All in all, I think I really did like it more than System Shock 2, which is quite a feat. If it wasn't for Nier Automata, Prey would absolutely be my favorite game of the year so far. Definitely pick it up if my previous post made it sound cool to you. :)
:o Cool! And I've beaten none of those games even though I own 2.  :D
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Re: What Are You Currently Playing? 6.65: Neighbor of the Beast
« Reply #1630 on: May 13, 2017, 09:27:02 PM »
As for Game of the Year, so far, I'd probably say that my clear first pick would be Nioh with Nier: Automata coming in at second, but then again, those are the only two games from this year that I've actually had the time to play so far (and I still haven't even finished one of them and have the DLC for the other waiting for me). :>

Overall, though, my lifestyle just doesn't let me take on too many things at once, so I have to be really selective about the types of games that I play. In that regard, you can pretty much see why I'm not much of an RPG guy. While I do still definitely want to play Bloodborne and will eventually make my way through the rest of the Souls games, and while I unabashedly love Nioh, and enjoy the hell out of Nier: Automata, I am a bit worried that action games in general may take the ARPG route instead given how much more popular this genre is becoming lately. On the one hand, I do enjoy games of this nature and if it allows developers to create interesting combat systems like in classic character action games while appealing to a broader market without having to dumb down the actual gameplay, then I'm all for it, but that also means that I will inevitably have to miss out on a lot of these games in the future due to time constraints.

The thing is, as much as I really do enjoy some of these games, my favorite genre still remains to be specifically the character action breed that melds nuanced hack n' slash style gameplay with a shorter but infinitely more replayable mission-based structure. Rather than leveling up your character or worrying too much about what kind of stats you have in your build, the upgrading is strictly limited to broadening your character's move-set and abilities, and emphasis is put more on mastery of the game's mechanics as opposed to making your in-game character grow stronger.

While I love Nioh and Nier: Automata, one thing that will prevent them from ever surpassing the likes of Ninja Gaiden, Devil May Cry, or Bayonetta for me, personally, is how the RPG elements sort of hurt their replay value. In Nioh's case it is absolutely possible to take on the main game at just level one, but leveling up even further and then wanting to go back and play an earlier stage is hampered by the fact that you'll have to de-level your character if you want to actually take it on with some level of challenge. While the game does have harder difficulty settings, the same general logic applies there as well. On the other hand, Nier: Automata seems to go by trying to scale enemies to be around where your level is (which, I believe, kind of defeats the purpose of even having a leveling system in the first place), but where I believe this backfires a bit is that it ultimately limits combat whenever you want to fight certain enemies from an earlier area and you are too over-leveled to the point in which you will automatically kill them in just a couple of hits.

Ultimately, the point that I'm trying to make is that this genre of ARPG's has its own share of weaknesses, the biggest of which being that it feels like I have to commit to spending hours at a time in any of them in order to make any worthwhile progress. For just one or two games every now and then like the two that I'm currently playing, that's not such a big deal. But if all character action games move in that direction, then it'll be really disappointing for me since my favorite experiences in all of gaming come from the best games in that very genre. I can pick up a game like Devil May Cry 3 and play any given mission on any difficulty of my choosing and not have to worry about anything but the action and the game's combat mechanics. I don't generally use items (which aren't needed if you are good enough to not get hit most of the time), and my upgrades don't make it so that I kill enemies too fast, as it's the difficulty setting which determines their health. That's a game where I can sit down and play for 30-minutes and have a memorable experience, whereas with the games that I'm currently playing I can't play on most weeknights as I can't afford to stay up late, and thus the time in which I have to play them is rather limited.

The much, much shorter version of what I'm trying to say is that, basically:

Make Devil May Cry 5 already, Itsuno. :devil:

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Re: What Are You Currently Playing? 6.65: Neighbor of the Beast
« Reply #1631 on: May 13, 2017, 10:00:51 PM »
Automata actually doesn't scale enemies to your level, which makes it extremely easy if you do all the side quests as you play through the main story. I think by the end of the game I was at least 5 levels higher than they expected me to be. I kind of wish they didn't bother having RPG mechanics to that extent, to be honest. The original Nier and the Drakengard games have "level ups," but - much like Ratchet & Clank - they don't do anything except make your health bar slightly longer and randomly restore your HP during battle, so the fighting is always balanced properly like a real action game. The heavier RPG elements of Automata don't play to Platinum's strengths as a development studio and it really shows with Normal being too easy and Hard being too difficult. I like the core fighting and shooting enough to want to try doing my next playthrough on Hard, but I hope the next Yoko Taro game goes back to the simplified RPG format of the first Nier and maybe only has one well-balanced difficulty setting (with an auto-mode for newcomers or folks who just want to see the story).

I've played through four of this year's games so far: Nier Automata, Prey, Resident Evil 7, and Yooka-Laylee (and I'd rank them in that order). I'll be getting back to Yakuza 0 soon and after that I've got my sights set on Nioh. I'm also thinking of finally using that PSTV I got for $20 to play Caligula and I'm marginally interested in Gravity Rush 2. I'll get around to Breath Of The Wild and Persona 5 eventually but neither really jumps out at me so I might wait until I buy a Switch for the former and the inevitable re-release for the latter.

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Re: What Are You Currently Playing? 6.65: Neighbor of the Beast
« Reply #1632 on: May 19, 2017, 03:38:56 PM »
Tried to finish Persona 5. Fatigue hit me hard. You can tell when you're near the end or at the end, but goodness gracious these dungeons just goes on forever, and it reminded me why I stopped playing JRPG's in the first place. As great as this game is the dungeons are filled with excessive padding and it's to the point where I don't even care anymore. Here I wanted to start a New Game + once I finished this run, but that's definitely out of the question now. Perhaps I'll come to see how it ends within a month or 2, but right now, I'm done.

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