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Re: What Are You Watching?
« Reply #2085 on: July 03, 2017, 08:24:48 PM »
Especially since Super is actually good.
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Re: What Are You Watching?
« Reply #2086 on: July 03, 2017, 10:17:29 PM »
Catching up on Dragon Ball Super. I thought it was funny so many people were getting mad at the writers for the stupid crap Goku pulled in causing the tournament. It's like they forgot this has been a core concept with his character since he let Vegeta live, and it's not even the first time his selfishness has caused unneeded problems for others. It's one of the reasons I don't like him very much. But it didn't surprise me that it happened.

See, I don't entirely agree with this, though. Yes, Goku has a selfish nature to want to do battle and his desire to do so has occasionally put other people in harm's way (though it should be noted that none of this is actually intentional on his part). The key thing to keep in mind in Goku's character in the original Dragon Ball is that he is naive, not intentionally reckless.

Goku in Super IS characterized differently from in the original manga, even if the changes may seem more subtle to some. For one thing, Goku might not be known for being too bright, but he wouldn't have done something like forget the Mafuba inscription to seal Zamas and Goku Black and then have an "oops, silly me" reaction. Goku in the manga would actually take the situation much more seriously. The Goku in Super seems to be geared towards making him further fit the stereotypes that people have labeled him with over the years, since the writers are clearly conscious of these things. That said, some of these traits are noticeably exaggerated from the original work, which is why there is some justification in people being upset with his characterization in Super. Since you don't like him it may not matter to you, but I've always felt that some sub watcher and manga readers only seem to remember the worst aspects of his character and hardly give him any credit for his better moments. Toriyama himself admitted that he didn't write Goku to be a "good guy," so he intentionally had unlikable qualities to his character (he's not entirely unlike Yabuki Joe in how that's arguably part of his appeal), but he wasn't written to be a complete dick or moron either. Had Goku actually known that the Zen-Ohs' would erase the Universes that lose the Tournament of Power as a consequence for bringing it up, I don't think that he would have pursued the matter (at least the version of him in the manga definitely wouldn't). Even his selfishness has limits. Although, the implication in this arc is that weather he brought it up or not, the twin Zen-Ohs' would have decided to erase some of the "lesser" Universes regardless.

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On the other hand, having episodes where Buu wins a fight and Krillin gets heavy (and highly deserved) character development and focus have been great. Even Gohan has been getting back into it. I've even enjoyed seeing 17 again. The writers trying to give characters pushed out since the Cell Saga development has been one of my favorite parts of this series.

At this point I can't imagine anyone saying this is worse than GT. You'd have a tough case convincing me of it.

One thing that people are bitching about is how this arc has completely thrown power-scaling out the window. On the one hand, no, it doesn't make much sense. On the other hand, I don't care. I'm willing to accept the writers having to take a huge liberty with one aspect of the series' logic in order to vastly improve the diversity of the cast, rather than only having Saiyans be useful for anything. I'm glad that Android 17 can take on Super Saiyan Blue Goku, and that Krilling can repel his Kamehameha with his own, even if Goku wasn't completely going all out and Krillin only barely managed to hold on at that. If it allows these supporting character to be more useful again, then I'm all for throwing that power-up stuff out the window.

And I really like how Jiren's skill and level of intimidation have been built up so far. He hasn't shown even the slightest bit of power yet. Instead we see very early Dragon Ball-esque concepts of him managing to slip behind Goku without Goku being able to detect his presence, or where he can correctly predict the path of those moving tiles and doesn't have to waste any movement dodging them since he knew that they wouldn't hit him. I kind of hope that by fighting him, the lesson to Goku will be that those old martial arts concepts that he was raised on is the key to overcoming his current limits as opposed to just powering up more, though sadly I don't think that's what the writers are going for.
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Re: What Are You Watching?
« Reply #2087 on: July 08, 2017, 03:38:49 PM »
I finished Yuri on Ice yesterday, and was pretty happy with it overall. I especially liked ow you could hear inside everyone's minds as they performed. It helps bring you into the character's worlds. I don't know if it's one of the best series ever, but it's another solid sports series that I've found.
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Re: What Are You Watching?
« Reply #2088 on: July 08, 2017, 03:43:04 PM »
I enjoyed Yuri on Ice. It's not nearly as great as it's hyped up to be, but it's certainly a well-made show for what it is.

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Re: What Are You Watching?
« Reply #2089 on: July 10, 2017, 02:03:52 PM »
I enjoyed Yuri on Ice. It's not nearly as great as it's hyped up to be, but it's certainly a well-made show for what it is.
This is essentially my opinion on Yuri on Ice.  As a fan of Sayo Yamamoto, YoI is nowhere near the quality of The Woman Called Fujiko Mine or even Michiko & Hatchin, but on its own merit, it's still an entertaining sports anime.  It does bother me though that a lot of people praise YoI for things (such as its handling of sexuality) that were portrayed far better in Yamamoto's previous works, yet neglect to give those series any regard.
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Re: What Are You Watching?
« Reply #2090 on: July 10, 2017, 02:27:05 PM »
Both of those are on my to-watch list, so I'll let you guys know how I feel about those, particularly in comparison to YoI.
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Re: What Are You Watching?
« Reply #2091 on: July 10, 2017, 02:49:15 PM »
Both of those are on my to-watch list, so I'll let you guys know how I feel about those, particularly in comparison to YoI.

I would've thought you already watched M&H, since it was on Toonami. Unless you weren't really watching Toonami back then. I'd definitely be interested in hearing your opinions of it. It was one of those showed that turned me off right from the first episode.

Speaking of Toonami, they've aired three episodes of Lupin. And I got to say, I'm a bit disappointed. I was expecting something super fun and interesting, but for the most part I'm pretty bored. The first episode was good, but the last two have not been. I was kind of hoping this show would be my gateway into Lupin, since it's always been something on my radar, but so far I might have difficulty just finishing this show let alone diving into the many other things Lupin related.

I'll continue to watch for now, but I hope it gets much better soon.

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Re: What Are You Watching?
« Reply #2092 on: July 10, 2017, 03:19:42 PM »
Both of those are on my to-watch list, so I'll let you guys know how I feel about those, particularly in comparison to YoI.

I would've thought you already watched M&H, since it was on Toonami. Unless you weren't really watching Toonami back then. I'd definitely be interested in hearing your opinions of it. It was one of those showed that turned me off right from the first episode.
I come and go on Toonami, and really just stick around if they're airing a show that interests me, like Black Lagoon or Parasyte. It's only in the past year that I've been really keeping up with it, since they've been airing HXH. M&H didn't interest me that much when it first aired, but it's been raising my interest as of late, enough that I want to check it out.

And I'm enjoying Lupin Part IV so far, but it's not my favorite yet by any stretch. I watched the first 3 series last year, and I didn't find any of them to be extremely consistent, but the first 2 especially have a lot of great episodes. I can handle a few so-so episodes if there's enough strong ones, especially since I know that the series can do better. But if Part IV just never wins you over, I'd at least recommend checking out Mystery of Mamo or Castle of Caligostro if you get the chance. They're terrific movies through and through, and arguably the best gateway to Lupin. Although I do need to also get to Fujiko Mine.
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Re: What Are You Watching?
« Reply #2093 on: July 10, 2017, 05:30:39 PM »
Both of those are on my to-watch list, so I'll let you guys know how I feel about those, particularly in comparison to YoI.

I would've thought you already watched M&H, since it was on Toonami. Unless you weren't really watching Toonami back then. I'd definitely be interested in hearing your opinions of it. It was one of those showed that turned me off right from the first episode.
I come and go on Toonami, and really just stick around if they're airing a show that interests me, like Black Lagoon or Parasyte. It's only in the past year that I've been really keeping up with it, since they've been airing HXH. M&H didn't interest me that much when it first aired, but it's been raising my interest as of late, enough that I want to check it out.

And I'm enjoying Lupin Part IV so far, but it's not my favorite yet by any stretch. I watched the first 3 series last year, and I didn't find any of them to be extremely consistent, but the first 2 especially have a lot of great episodes. I can handle a few so-so episodes if there's enough strong ones, especially since I know that the series can do better. But if Part IV just never wins you over, I'd at least recommend checking out Mystery of Mamo or Castle of Caligostro if you get the chance. They're terrific movies through and through, and arguably the best gateway to Lupin. Although I do need to also get to Fujiko Mine.
Personally, I think Part IV starts to really pick up over time.  The second half especially has some great episodes like "The End of Lupin III", which has probably become one of my all-time favorite Lupin eps.  That being said, even if you don't end up liking Part IV, it's still worth checking out other Lupin series/films since they're all slightly different.


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Re: What Are You Watching?
« Reply #2094 on: July 20, 2017, 05:11:02 PM »
I'm watching Diamond is Unbreakable now. I was going to catch the second half of SC, but since Toonami's getting it, I'll just catch it there. I am enjoying this one so far, though. It's different from the other JJBA stories, but in a good way. I like how the story is evolving, eight episodes in.
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Re: What Are You Watching?
« Reply #2095 on: July 20, 2017, 05:36:48 PM »
I think what resonates with me the most about DiU is the town of Morioh itself, which feels real and full of life within the context of the JoJo's Universe, as well as the distinctly laid-back tone that is present throughout a majority of the arc. Only a core few episodes really deal with the main story, but not unlike shows such as Cowboy Bebop, the real heart of DiU is in everything that lies in-between the major encounters, in which the characters are just being themselves. Though, don't get me wrong, the serious stuff is done exceptionally well, but it's how it complements the rest of this arc's tone that truly gives it weight, IMO. Like, in one episode we'll see some characters trying out get-rich-quick schemes in a comedic affair that feels much more akin to Ed, Edd, n' Eddie than something out of a Shonen Jump manga, but then it can be followed up by a devastatingly dark encounter with a villain that feels all the more tense because of how much you come to care about the characters from the more light-hearted fair.

In other words, it really feels like you are there hanging out with this gang, which makes them feel so much more relatable than most other JoJo's characters, IMO.

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Re: What Are You Watching?
« Reply #2096 on: July 21, 2017, 08:18:52 PM »
Episode 10 is one of the best things I've ever seen, and is making me really hungry for Italian.
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Re: What Are You Watching?
« Reply #2097 on: August 12, 2017, 11:33:49 PM »
The latest anime I've tried watching were Attack on Titan and One Punch Man. Being the fickle guy that I am, loved the action and animation in both but neither neither one does much of anything to bring me back. I'll admit that this is my own fault for not being open to some (the majority) of anything new (I think 2014 was the last time I actually tried anything). Unless there's some anime out there dealing with samurai's that I'm not aware of?

Anyway, I do have a nice little rotation going on at the moment.

Rurouni Kenshin (This takes me back)
Outlaw Star
Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood

Might squeeze in a little bit of Yu Yu Hakusho or Gungrave. Outlaw Star is new to me, or rather, I missed it during it's run on Toonami and now I own it on dvd so I suppose its my win for being able to see it in its glory. On the manga side, it's been nothing but Hajime no Ippo.
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Re: What Are You Watching?
« Reply #2098 on: August 13, 2017, 12:53:19 AM »
One Punch Man is pretty fun for what it is. Attack on Titan was never really my thing, though.

As for more good Samurai anime I'm not too sure what to recommend besides the really obvious ones, but if you're up for reading manga Vagabond is a certified classic. I'd recommend Lone Wolf and Cub, but I figure it may be a bit too old-school for your liking. I'm currently reading Blade of the Immortal, though, and it's arguably right up there with the likes of Vagabond, LWAK, and RK as one of the best in its genre, though I'm only about a third of the way through it, currently.

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Re: What Are You Watching?
« Reply #2099 on: August 13, 2017, 04:00:19 AM »
You might get a kick out of Drifters, Grave. It's by the same guy as Hellsing and shares much of its appeal. Garo may be up your alley as well assuming you haven't already tried, I've only seen a handful of the anime's episodes but the franchise overall is built on over-the-top action and horror.