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Re: The Simpsons
« Reply #480 on: August 06, 2017, 11:14:29 PM »
Finished Season 1, I thought it was pretty enjoyable overall. That's not to say it was perfect, ones like "There's no Disgrace like Home" were kind of a clunker in the sense that I was wondering where the humor was but the other 11 were fair enough.

I think if I had to pick any I liked over the others, one'd be "Homer's Night Out". It ran the concept to an outrageous point then ran with it. I got a laugh or two out of it.

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Re: The Simpsons
« Reply #481 on: August 07, 2017, 11:00:17 AM »
Season 1 is definitely the weakest season of the first ten, but it does have a lot of good points. Starting with season 2 you begin to see the framework solidify and by season 3 the show hits the ground running.

I do have to give episodes like Disgrace praise for one thing and that's treating Homer as if he isn't mentally deficient, but just dumb. Starting around season 10 the staff have had problems not just writing him as if he's two steps away from the nut house instead of simply ignorant and lower intelligence than the average.
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Re: The Simpsons
« Reply #482 on: August 13, 2017, 07:52:29 PM »
I do have to give episodes like Disgrace praise for one thing and that's treating Homer as if he isn't mentally deficient, but just dumb. Starting around season 10 the staff have had problems not just writing him as if he's two steps away from the nut house instead of simply ignorant and lower intelligence than the average.

Man, your latter point doesn't even sound like the same character. :wth: Yeah, I think I'm gonna stop after watching s9 if they miss(ed) the point that hard.

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Re: The Simpsons
« Reply #483 on: August 13, 2017, 07:59:28 PM »
Super Eyepatch Wolf made a great video showing how the show went downhill. (I was expecting Saberspark to get to this first, but hey, I'll take it.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KqFNbCcyFkk

My favorite part is when he sets up a simple gag and shows the different ways it would play out in an older and newer season.

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Re: The Simpsons
« Reply #484 on: August 13, 2017, 09:30:51 PM »
The Principal & the Pauper is a good example of a well written episode centered on a bad core idea. Homer's Enemy might have been too meta for some (and is rightfully controversial for it), but the episode has that excuse. It doesn't change a core element of the show and characters to work. The Principal and the Pauper simply didn't take its own world and characters to heart, and it was something it did more and more of until the heart was completely absent in season 11. After that the series became a mindless mediocre joke factory.

But the simple answer to what happened to the Simpsons was that the last of the long running writers left during season 9. And George Meyer eventually came back weaker than he was before and John Swartzwelder either had all his scripts edited to oblivion or stopped caring. That's the core problem. The new writers from season 10 on were never on par with the older writers. Most of the writers went on to things like Futurama or King of the Hill which, if you pay attention to the dates, took off at the same time the Simpsons slid downhill.

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Re: The Simpsons
« Reply #485 on: August 31, 2017, 01:33:55 AM »

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Re: The Simpsons
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Re: The Simpsons
« Reply #487 on: November 25, 2017, 08:20:32 PM »
Did anyone hear about this Simpsons documentary on TruTV? It's called The Problem With Apu.

http://www.trutv.com/full-episodes/the-problem-with-apu/2141759/index.html

I only discovered it through MovieBob's blog today.

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Re: The Simpsons
« Reply #488 on: November 25, 2017, 08:33:10 PM »
The trailer and the creator's behavior on Twitter really turned me off from the documentary. Felt like it deliberately ignored many of Apu's positive traits (one of the more intelligent citizens of Springfield, isn't looked down on for his race by any of the main characters and is viewed as a friend by many of them, has several episodes about his life and his ambitions) in favor of focusing on "It's pretty racist that he's played by a non-Indian voice actor!" It seemed like those obnoxious and manipulative smearpieces Michael Moore makes for a living. But even worse. It's an unfunny D-list comedian trying to accuse a 28-year-old show that hasn't been part of the public eye in ages of racism, in what feels less like an attempt to open people's eyes and more a shallow attempt to leech off of any past fame that series had. Sure, Apu's a stereotype, but to act as if he's this backwards Sambo-esque caricature no different from the Censored Eleven or anti-Japanese wartime cartoons is pure idiocy.
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