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Re: What Movie Did You Just Watch
« Reply #1980 on: July 25, 2017, 08:27:20 PM »
Speaking of camp, I finally watched Schindler's List after ages of putting it off. And it was definitely as chilling as I expected. A wonderful film though. I was fascinated by Goeth and Schindler's relationship, and Ben Kingsley's performance.

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Re: What Movie Did You Just Watch
« Reply #1981 on: July 25, 2017, 08:54:36 PM »
It sits as either my second or third favorite Spielberg film, pretty much tying with The Adventures of Tintin. Yes, I know how that sounds, but I deeply love both films for very different reasons, so suck it. The fact that he came put with both Schindler's List and Jurassic Park in the same year is beyond insane. And yes, I teared up at the "I could've saved more" scene.

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Re: What Movie Did You Just Watch
« Reply #1982 on: July 31, 2017, 05:52:51 PM »
So Dunkirk was cool. But I did laugh when it turned out the heroic pilot was
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Tom Hardy in a mask, who made the fire rise on his plane while making sure Dunkirk would have survivors.

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Re: What Movie Did You Just Watch
« Reply #1983 on: August 04, 2017, 08:41:00 PM »
I just bought Logan, Creed, and Shin Godzilla on Blu-ray. I plan to give Logan a re-watch via the Noir version exclusive to the Blu-ray set, and getting Creed now completes my Rocky collection. As for Shin Godzilla, I have yet to watch it, but I definitely wanted to nab it as soon as I saw it on store shelves. Before I watch it, though, I still have a few Godzilla movies left watch on my DVD box set collection, so I want to go through those first before watching this new one (yes, I know it's standalone and isn't in continuity with the old movies, but I still feel like going through the old stuff first).

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Re: What Movie Did You Just Watch
« Reply #1984 on: August 10, 2017, 09:13:04 AM »
This morning, I've been wondering something: What happened to all the great directors who were also complete assholes? We used to have Michael Curtiz drowning actors to get a Noah's Ark scene, Stanley Kubrick mentally abusing Shelley Duvall so hard that she wears tinfoil on her head now, and Jodorowsky raping an actress on-camera purely so they could the take right. Nowadays, most of the great directors usually aren't abusive, while the directors who do traumatize their actors nowadays are usually z-list indie filmmakers that only a dozen people like.

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Re: What Movie Did You Just Watch
« Reply #1985 on: August 11, 2017, 02:56:33 PM »
I mean, there's David O. Russell, but apparently he's been fine with Jennifer Lawrence and Bradley Cooper, unlike his past with George Clooney and Lily Tomlin.
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Re: What Movie Did You Just Watch
« Reply #1986 on: August 24, 2017, 05:09:07 PM »
Swiss Army Man is one of those rare films where I can't say that I liked a single element about it, but I wouldn't say that I hated it. Well, I particularly didn't like the final act, yet I just can't fault the thing for being so damn different. I can't really think of anything else like it.

I also got to see The Red Turtle, which I thought was beautiful, but didn't leave much of an impact with me. It was a treat to watch from start to finish, though.
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Re: What Movie Did You Just Watch
« Reply #1987 on: September 08, 2017, 11:22:06 PM »
Just got back from seeing "IT" tonight. Just to preface, I have read the original novel and grew up with the mini-series. The novel isn't exactly great source material as it has many legitimate criticisms that have been levied against it (some of which King himself even agrees to in retrospect) but a lot of it did still work for me on a personal level. I would describe it as an intriguing mess, in that it's interesting to read but is all over the place when it comes to the actual quality of its narrative. The mini-series on the other hand is trash while also simultaneously being a nostalgic guilty pleasure for me. Tim Curry is ridiculously entertaining in it, regardless, though not for the intended reasons, but it's never boring to watch him on screen.

At any rate, my point is that I went into this with at least a bit of personal bias for the material. In that regard, I really enjoyed the film. While some have criticized it for being tonally inconsistent, I personally am not bothered by that since I never saw "IT" as a straight-up horror story but rather as a coming of age story with a horror-theme in the background (basically Stand By Me but with a supernatural entity thrown in to shake up the formula). So the balance between the drama of growing up, scares, and humor thrown in for good measure is something that I personally find makes the movie more appealing. I'd say that this was basically about as good of an adaptation as you could possibly make out of source material this lopsided, so I was really satisfied with the finished product, myself.

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Re: What Movie Did You Just Watch
« Reply #1988 on: September 08, 2017, 11:51:36 PM »
Sounds good. Most complaints I've heard so far are from people who focus too much on the horror aspect and felt Pennywise wasn't scary enough and miss the bigger picture of what the story is really about. Like you said, it's a coming of age story first and horror second. I'm pretty excited to see the film, and am really glad to hear the positive buzz it's been getting.

I really wish I'd seen It tonight instead of Wind River. I saw it because a friend of mine recommended it to me and we're going to podcast about it, but regardless I was expecting a good film coming from the writer of Sicario and Hell or High Water, which I loved. Instead I left the theater more insulted than I felt after seeing Ghost in the Shell. If you're making a story about Native Americans, especially a problem as severe as missing and abused young Native American women, actually tell their stories. Don't use them as a backdrop for a boilerplate thriller about a hyper-perfect self-insert white male "badass" who fights on behalf of the Native Americans and knows better than them because they apparently can't protect themselves or bring justice for one of their own being murdered, and has to hand-hold the female FBI agent who should have actual training but is frequently made to look like an incompetent idiot because she's "from the city" and doesn't understand the country or some bullshit. That the movie has the gall to claim it's based on the very real tragedies befalling Native American women but fetishize the abuse and victimization of them as motivation for it's white male lead really infuriated me, and disappointed me because the writer's previous films were so genuinely enjoyable. Like, the cinematography is beautiful and there are genuinely tense moments of suspense, but the messages of the story and representation of women and the Native American community is incredibly problematic, and it's baffling that so many people seem to be ignoring these faults which are too persistent in media and need to be addressed in favor of praising the surface elements.

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Re: What Movie Did You Just Watch
« Reply #1989 on: September 09, 2017, 12:34:10 AM »
I still kind of want to check out Wind River to form my own opinion on it since I was such a big fan of Sicario and Hell or High Water. Sucks to hear that the message is so skewed, though.

As for "IT" I can understand criticisms against it perfectly fine; just don't watch the Sibling Rivalry video; as ususal Doug and Rob are riding their smug high-horses so in your face that it's hard to tolerate regardless of whether you agree with their actual opinions or not. That said, the overwhelming praise that the film has gotten far outweighs the gripes, as you can probably tell, and I'm glad because I think that the success is well deserved. Outside of my personal attachment to the source material, I am one of the few people who actually really liked Andrés Muschietti's previous film Mama, so I was actually quite pleased to see him announced as the director of this movie after Fukunaga left the project. Stylistically he may have actually been the best fit for this film after all, and his keen attention to detail honestly has me wanting to go back to see the movie again to catch all of the little nuances and Easter Eggs that I missed the first time around.
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Re: What Movie Did You Just Watch
« Reply #1990 on: September 09, 2017, 12:49:53 AM »
Yeah, I saw Doug and Rob's review and it really annoyed me. For half an hour all they did was gripe about how the movie isn't scary because clowns aren't scary and other bullshit, but not once do they ever address the themes of the story or the development of the characters in context of the horror elements. At one point Rob complained that the adults were scarier than the clown...which was the entire fucking point! They really seem to have a very shallow understanding of the appeal of the novel, and a lot of King's work in general. I'm glad their opinion is in the minority, but it was definitely a strange whiplash for me after listening to Brad Jones' really positive and thoughtful review right beforehand.

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Re: What Movie Did You Just Watch
« Reply #1991 on: September 09, 2017, 01:10:50 AM »
The thing is, it doesn't actually bother me that they dislike something that I or others like. Nor does it even bother me if they completely miss the point. It annoys me when they do those things while expressing their opinions in a painfully arrogant and ignorant way, though thankfully most commenters are calling them out on their bull-shit in that video (not that they actually read the comments, anyways).

Also, the film specifically uses a technique of having all of the adult characters framed in ways that make them look intimidating. It was an intentional decision to have this entire movie filmed from the childrens' point of view. Not sure how they didn't quite grasp that concept when literally everyone else did.

And Rob calling this movie a "Trainwreck of tonal inconsistency" is hilarious coming from a guy who claims to be a fan of Stranger Things, a show that is not only directly inspired by Stephen King works like IT, but was even created by people who originally were trying to make this very adaptation before being turned down due to their lack of experience at the time, and then making their show carry many of the same themes and tonal shifts "inconsistencies" of IT.

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Re: What Movie Did You Just Watch
« Reply #1992 on: September 09, 2017, 08:54:07 AM »
It feels like they're preoccupied with their ideas of what IT should be and have blinded themselves to what it actually is, and think that any other interpretations and perspectives on the story is beneath their own, even though theirs is extremely shallow. If this was the character of the Nostalgia Critic saying this it would be one thing, but it's obnoxious because these are Doug and Rob's "real thoughts," which is apparently "everyone who likes this is dumb and easily scared."

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Re: What Movie Did You Just Watch
« Reply #1993 on: September 10, 2017, 02:34:50 AM »
Personally, unless they're discussing a Holocaust movie or something, I absolutely hate when people harp on about "tonal inconsistency." Oh shit, something funny happened after something scary did? That's real life! A normal day for anyone is usually going to feature tons of conflicting emotions, including laughter, anger, sadness, fear, etc. The Wire is praised for being realistic and heartbreaking... guess what, that show is also funny as hell, which is a huge part of what makes it realistic. Actual human beings naturally say hilarious shit without thinking about it, even during the gravest moments. I mean, if the characters start randomly busting out with tired Adam Sandler/Amy Schumer-esque gags or anime-style boob jokes, then yeah, that's stupid, but a film devoid of humor is also a film devoid of character or realism as far as I'm concerned.

Also, I've always found clowns terrifying. Yeah, I'm a pussy, whatever; they're scary! And this is the first I've heard of Wind River but it sounds like a very unfortunate film.
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Re: What Movie Did You Just Watch
« Reply #1994 on: September 10, 2017, 03:34:07 AM »
I feel bad for clowns in real life because of how IT, the Joker, and John Wayne Gacy have painted them as crazed murderers. I want a movie where a clown is the guy who saves the day just to fuck with viewer expectations.