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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #30 on: September 25, 2017, 03:13:43 PM »
I'm not sure if it was a good idea to make everybody's first impression of Michael be that of a trigger-happy officer who attacks her own Captain, attempts a mutiny, and tries to strike a Klingon ship that hadn't actually threatened them by that point. For people who aren't going to use CBS All Access, that's going to be their main idea of who she is.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #31 on: September 25, 2017, 11:37:42 PM »
Yeah, for all their talk about returning to the roots of Star Trek's cerebral and optimistic nature, having the first episode be about the protagonist finding an alien race unseen by humans for a century and then immediately attempting a mutiny so she can kill them certainly didn't inspire confidence. Also, I haven't seen the second episode yet, but the premiere did a piss-poor job of establishing the characters. We don't know anything about any of them except that Michael is half-Vulcan and the Klingons probably(?) killed her parents. No one has an actual personality to speak of, except for that alien whose name I've forgotten, and even then his defining trait/motivation is little more than "cowardly."

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #32 on: September 25, 2017, 11:54:16 PM »
Michael's not half-Vulcan. She's a human who got adopted by Sarek. Speaking of, I'm confused as to why he treats Michael better than he did his actual children. It's weird to see him acting supportive and mentoring to her compared to the way he treats Spock. "Spock's never-before-seen stepsister who plays a big role in a Klingon war" already sounds like fanfiction, so moments like that aren't helping.

As for the rest of the cast, I couldn't get a read on Michelle Yeoh's character beyond "generic Starfleet captain". I guess Paramount wanted to trick us into thinking she would be a main character so her death would be shocking, but even without all the announcements half a year ago spoiling who the actual captain was, it was hard to care about her. Only other crewmembers I can remember are the Doug Jones character, the Daft Punk one, and that guy who played the Blue Ranger in Power Rangers SPD.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #33 on: September 26, 2017, 12:02:41 AM »
Michael's not half-Vulcan. She's a human who got adopted by Sarek.
Oh. My dad and I assumed she was. Huh.

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As for the rest of the cast, I couldn't get a read on Michelle Yeoh's character beyond "generic Starfleet captain". I guess Paramount wanted to trick us into thinking she would be a main character so her death would be shocking, but even without all the announcements half a year ago spoiling who the actual captain was, it was hard to care about her.
As soon as I saw "Special Guest Star" in the opening credits I knew she wouldn't last long!

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #34 on: September 26, 2017, 12:55:04 AM »
I'm not sure what's with Star Trek and not having great or even good series premieres. Other spaceship shows like The Expanse, BSG, and Firefly hit it out of the park by episode one. I hope Discovery doesn't go the same path as other Star Trek series where there's a couple lukewarm or shitty seasons before it actually becomes a good show. That's what fucked over Enterprise. They thought they could have a slow burn show and eventually grow their beard just like TNG did, only to screw up so hard that by the time they actually made watchable and even good episodes, nobody was tuning in.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #35 on: September 26, 2017, 01:00:05 PM »
Apparently Season 2 might not drop until 2019. Now admittedly that would give Kurtzman some time to actually...you know...figure what the fuck this show is supposed to be about again. Because interstellar mindmelds ain't gonna do it.

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Re: Star Trek
« Reply #36 on: September 29, 2017, 03:44:49 AM »
RedLetterMedia reviewed the first two episodes of Discovery, and one thing that got my attention was Mike talking about how you couldn't make shows like TNG or VOY these days because of television changing, while Rich argued that stuff like Orville proved there were still people who wanted a TNG-style Trek.

For what it's worth, Mike really liked STD while Rich hated it.