That's right. Phoenix Wright is getting an anime adaption for Spring 2016 (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2015/09/16/capcom-announces-ace-attorney-anime-adaptation-for-april-2016-in-japan) that will follow the first three games. It is unknown how long it will be, but with 14 cases to go through (and most of them aren't short enough to fit an episode) it should have more than enough material.
So, lets center discussion on the anime here.
Pretty exciting news! I just hope that it's at least two cours, if not more. I can't imagine them being able to fit in a whole case in each episode.
I can see maybe the intro case of each game being a standalone episode, but definitely not the bigger cases. I'd say 2-3 episodes per each is the least they deserve.
Let's hope this gets brought to America!
I say 3 or 4 episodes for each full length case, and 5 or 6 episodes for each of the final cases, could be enough. I'm super excited for the 1-4, 1-5, 2-4, and 3-5 cases getting fully animated and voiced.
Also, I wouldn't be opposed to the intro case of Justice for All being cut. It adequately serves its purpose to ease the player in when playing the video game, but from a story point of view, it would be completely filler and not particularly strong as a show. And without gameplay backing it up, I also think it would...
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Further cheapen Maya's return in the game's second case, which is a prequel to this one. That's always been a huge gripe of mine when it comes to this case, and it would be even more noticeable a flaw in an anime. It's telling when the only story purpose this case would have is to be a spoiler for a vastly superior case.
If there's an NA release (and there will be), I'm pretty sure they'll at least use the NA names.
You could do an anime this way:
Episode 1: 1-1, background info
Episode 2: 1-2, background on Mia and Edgeworth
Episode 3: 1-2
Episode 4: 1-2
Episode 5: Filler episode dealing with establishing the firm and the next case
Episode 6: 1-3
Episode 7: 1-3
Episode 8: 1-3
Episode 9: Filler episode about Edgeworth
Episode 10: 1-4
Episode 11: 1-4
Episode 12: 1-4
Episode 13: 1-4
Episode 14: End of 1-4, fallout from the case
Episode 15: 1-5
Episode 16: 1-5
Episode 17: 1-5
Episode 18: 1-5
Episode 19: 1-5
Episode 20: Filler episode between the two games
Episode 21: Filler case
Episode 22: Filler case
Episode 23: 2-2
Episode 24: 2-2
Episode 25: 2-2
Episode 26: Filler episode about Maya
Episode 27: Passing reference to 2-1, start of 2-3
Episode 28: 2-3
Episode 29: End of 2-3, hint at next case
Episode 30: 2-4
Episode 31: 2-4
Episode 32: 2-4
Episode 33: 2-4
Episode 34: 2-4
Episode 35: Filler episode between the two games
Episode 36: Filler case
Episode 37: Filler case, episode about Phoenix
Episode 38: Flashback to Mia, case 3-1
Episode 39: 3-2
Episode 40: 3-2
Episode 41: 3-3
Episode 42: 3-3
Episode 43: Flashback to Mia, case 3-4
Episode 44: Intro to 3-5, episode about Phoenix's past
Episode 45: 3-5
Episode 46: 3-5
Episode 47: 3-5
Episode 48: 3-5
Episode 49: 3-5
Episode 50: 3-5, series wrap up
Ideally, I think that would work best. Personally I would enjoy some filler in a series like this between cases. We can see the characters off the job more.
Plus, 1-4, 1-5, 2-4, and 3-5 need a LOT of episodes to really do the cases justice. They would take up near 20 episodes on their own. I'm really curious as to how they plan on doing this.
I almost feel like cases 3-1 and 3-4 should be two episodes, so to avoid leaving out as much as possible. There's a lot of development in there that's important to 3-5.
The thing about the idea of adding cases is that, if they have ideas for new cases, I'd almost rather just see those put into a full game. But I do like the idea of seeing the characters off the job. Wright and Maya alone are likable enough to sustain an episode without being in the courtroom or on the crime scene.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 21, 2015, 12:43:23 PM
(and there will be),
What makes you so sure?
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 21, 2015, 12:43:23 PM
Episode 14: End of 1-4, fallout from the case
Fallout?
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 21, 2015, 12:43:23 PM
Episode 44: Intro to 3-5, episode about Phoenix's past
Isn't that kind of like what 3-1 is?
But your chart looks good.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on September 21, 2015, 01:02:01 PM
The thing about the idea of adding cases is that, if they have ideas for new cases, I'd almost rather just see those put into a full game. But I do like the idea of seeing the characters off the job. Wright and Maya alone are likable enough to sustain an episode without being in the courtroom or on the crime scene.
Well, these would be written by the anime staff and not the game writers, so we wouldn't have these without the series. I'd personally just like to see some episodes outside of a case in more of a slice of life environment.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on September 21, 2015, 01:02:01 PMQuote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 21, 2015, 12:43:23 PM
(and there will be),
What makes you so sure?
The series has a huge fanbase and is VERY popular in anime circles. Just this announcement has been a huge deal. I can't see nobody picking this up.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on September 21, 2015, 01:02:01 PMQuote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 21, 2015, 12:43:23 PM
Episode 14: End of 1-4, fallout from the case
Fallout?
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Von Karma and everything he has done, Edgeworth getting his life back together, and the repercussions it has for the series being that it leads to the mistrust in 1-5, and the whole Dark Age of the Law which is the center of the whole second trilogy. There's a lot of stuff not directly relating to the case that could be expanded upon.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on September 21, 2015, 01:02:01 PMQuote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 21, 2015, 12:43:23 PM
Episode 44: Intro to 3-5, episode about Phoenix's past
Isn't that kind of like what 3-1 is?
It is, but I meant more outside of the general framework of a college student and maybe focused on everything that lead him until that moment since 3-5 is so heavily related to him facing that past and we won't have much time to focus on it considering how long the proper case is.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on September 21, 2015, 01:02:01 PMBut your chart looks good.
Thanks! I think a 50 episode show is the best way to give the first 3 games the breathing room it deserves.
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Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 21, 2015, 01:38:24 PMWell, these would be written by the anime staff and not the game writers, so we wouldn't have these without the series. I'd personally just like to see some episodes outside of a case in more of a slice of life environment.
That's a good point. I can agree with you there, then.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 21, 2015, 01:38:24 PM
Von Karma and everything he has done, Edgeworth getting his life back together, and the repercussions it has for the series being that it leads to the mistrust in 1-5, and the whole Dark Age of the Law which is the center of the whole second trilogy. There's a lot of stuff not directly relating to the case that could be expanded upon.
Speaking of 1-5, I was thinking that hopefully the anime will fix a big plothole that case created (being that 1-5 wasn't created until well after the trilogy was released). 1-4 and 2-4 have a clear link that 1-5 complicates, as 2-4 states that Edgeworth disappeared after 1-4 and never returned to the courtroom. Now, we can finally see that plothole get plugged... Unless they just cut 1-5 which would be a huge loss. Wright and Edgeworth's battle with Gant was one of the best and most intense in the whole series. It's the battle I always associate this song with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7aa1Dkr_1Q
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 21, 2015, 01:38:24 PM
It is, but I meant more outside of the general framework of a college student and maybe focused on everything that lead him until that moment since 3-5 is so heavily related to him facing that past and we won't have much time to focus on it considering how long the proper case is.
I agree, but I also wouldn't be opposed to seeing some of his past explored a bit more in 1-4, since a big part of that case is Wright and Edgeworth's friendship in their youth.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 21, 2015, 01:38:24 PM
Thanks! I think a 50 episode show is the best way to give the first 3 games the breathing room it deserves.
Do you think they'll continue past the first three games? Or do you think they'll just stop at Trials and Tribulations?
There's no way they'll cut 1-5. The DS version is the most popular version of the game, they'd have so many complaints without it. I bet they'll just add in lines explaining that character left after that case instead of 1-4.
As for the length, they said this series will cover the first three games. I'd imagine a sequel series would either cover the Edgeworth games (which I hope because we might never get a translation of the second game at this rate) or Apollo, Dual Destines, and Ace Attorney 6. That will probably depend on how well this does.
At the same time, I do think they could get away with just ending the series with the first three games. Those three games tell a complete character story arc with Wright, and the storyline doesn't necessarily need to continue beyond them.
Either way, focusing this particular series on those games was the best idea. I just hope it's good.
I'm actually kind of surprised you left 2-3 on your chart. :D
I'm not going to lie, it hurt to write that down. :D
I don't think there's any way to salvage it, but I doubt they'd cut it. But if they did cut anything, I would choose it first without question.
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I mean, it's not like it adds much to the overarching story, other than tidbits about Edgeworth that could have been inserted anywhere else. It would make just as much sense to go from 2-2 to 2-4. In fact, it would work well enough to have Franziska's winning streak be broken in 2-2, which leads to her throwing a fit and attempting to quit her prosecutor job in 2-4. When it comes to making a television show, in order to keep the pacing brisk, you have to cut the fat.
Then again, 2-3 does let us settle back into the Wright and Maya friendship before she gets taken away in 2-4, considering that she's in prison all throughout 2-2. But some filler between 2-2 and 2-4 would remedy that.
Do you think they'll remix the in-game music?
Certainly. I hope for some orchestra and jazz remixes above all.
I really hope this, and Ace Attorney 6, stir up enough interest and convince Capcom to bring Investigations 2 and the prequel game over here.
Wait, did you say you think cases 1-4, 1-5, 2-4, and 3-5 would each require up to twenty episodes?
No, combined together they would add up to that much. Remember, on a game screen you can read fast, on a TV screen the characters have to speak and breath between lines. Those cases would each take a lot of time unless they cut a lot of corners on the story, and then what's the point of adapting them?
But at the same time, in a television adaptation, there wouldn't be those segments of a witness testifying over and over and Wright cross examining them on every line of dialogue. That would cut out a lot of time.
However, I still think you're right. There's a lot of story in those cases, and they deserve to be done justice. 5 episodes, in my mind, should be the bare minimum.
I always felt like if Phoenix Wright were an anime series, that Rise From the Ashes would be the first anime movie. It definitely has that feel whenever I've played it. Though it can work as the season finale or half-finale.
Might as well ask now, who do y'all think should get the dub? I would think Funimation might be the safest bet. I've always envisioned Ed Blaylock as Damon Gant. He'd be perfect for him, since Gant is a lot similar to King Bradley.
Funimation would be the best bet. They always grab the big stuff ASAP.
Quote from: Peanutbutter on September 25, 2015, 02:04:37 PM
Might as well ask now, who do y'all think should get the dub? I would think Funimation might be the safest bet. I've always envisioned Ed Blaylock as Damon Gant. He'd be perfect for him, since Gant is a lot similar to King Bradley.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 25, 2015, 02:36:27 PM
Funimation would be the best bet. They always grab the big stuff ASAP.
If so, then they should bring back the voice of Yukina from Yu Yu Hakusho, and have her voice Dahlia Hawthorne. Seriously, from the first appearance of that character in the third Ace Attorney, that's the voice I quickly imagined her talking in. It's a perfect fit.
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By extension, her twin sister would also have that voice.
Quote from: Peanutbutter on September 25, 2015, 02:01:31 PM
I always felt like if Phoenix Wright were an anime series, that Rise From the Ashes would be the first anime movie. It definitely has that feel whenever I've played it. Though it can work as the season finale or half-finale.
Whether or not that happens, I think 1-5 would need possibly the largest number of episodes, because I remember it being the longest case in the series.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on September 25, 2015, 03:16:22 PM
Quote from: Peanutbutter on September 25, 2015, 02:04:37 PM
Might as well ask now, who do y'all think should get the dub? I would think Funimation might be the safest bet. I've always envisioned Ed Blaylock as Damon Gant. He'd be perfect for him, since Gant is a lot similar to King Bradley.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 25, 2015, 02:36:27 PM
Funimation would be the best bet. They always grab the big stuff ASAP.
If so, then they should bring back the voice of Yukina from Yu Yu Hakusho, and have her voice Dahlia Hawthorne. Seriously, from the first appearance of that character in the third Ace Attorney, that's the voice I quickly imagined her talking in. It's a perfect fit.
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By extension, her twin sister would also have that voice.
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She would be a great fit. Especially when she goes bonkers on the stand. Even people who know the series penchant for twists got freaked out the first time that happened in game.
If Chris Sabat isn't Von Karma, then there is truly something wrong in this world.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 25, 2015, 03:23:06 PM
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She would be a great fit. Especially when she goes bonkers on the stand. Even people who know the series penchant for twists got freaked out the first time that happened in game.
If Chris Sabat isn't Von Karma, then there is truly something wrong in this world.
This moment?
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(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/62/6f/ec/626fec1e1a3d0d97e35ba2ce29905bec.jpg)
Or do you mean when she goes crazy at the very end of 3-5. Either way, both moments are great. And Mia's verbal beatdown on her is phenomenal
I can't help but imagine von Karma with an accent.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on September 25, 2015, 03:37:30 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on September 25, 2015, 03:23:06 PM
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She would be a great fit. Especially when she goes bonkers on the stand. Even people who know the series penchant for twists got freaked out the first time that happened in game.
If Chris Sabat isn't Von Karma, then there is truly something wrong in this world.
This moment?
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(https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/62/6f/ec/626fec1e1a3d0d97e35ba2ce29905bec.jpg)
Or do you mean when she goes crazy at the very end of 3-5. Either way, both moments are great. And Mia's verbal beatdown on her is phenomenal
I can't help but imagine von Karma with an accent.
That would be the moment.
Well, he can do accents, but his deep voice is the perfect fit for the character. His "objection" sound clip is the scariest sound effect in the whole series.
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Speaking of Dahlia, if they choose to go past the third game and animate Apollo Justice and so forth, I wouldn't be opposed to Dahlia's sister, Iris, being a background character. She wouldn't have to have a major role, but the ending of Trials & Tribulations made it clear that there was still a romantic connection between Wright and Iris. So I felt kind of bad that we never saw her again.
The anime is being produced by A-1 Pictures. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-12-18/ace-attorney-anime-cast-staff-briefly-listed/.96692)
Great choice for a composer. They got the director for Space Brothers, too.
Still optimistic for it.
Quote from: VLordGTZ on December 18, 2015, 08:57:33 PM
The anime is being produced by A-1 Pictures. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-12-18/ace-attorney-anime-cast-staff-briefly-listed/.96692)
RIP.
Starts April 2nd. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/daily-briefs/2016-02-05/ace-attorney-anime-april-2-premiere-revealed/.98343)
Ace Attorney is going to be airing back-to-back with Detective Conan. Now that's what I call a perfect match up. ;D
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Quote from: VLordGTZ on December 18, 2015, 08:57:33 PM
The anime is being produced by A-1 Pictures. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-12-18/ace-attorney-anime-cast-staff-briefly-listed/.96692)
RIP.
I actually kind of like some of A-1 Pictures' output in recent years, though. Magi, The Seven Deadly Sins, and Space Brothers are all pretty good anime, IMO (Space Brothers in particular is great).
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Quote from: Foggle on December 19, 2015, 02:57:40 AM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on December 18, 2015, 08:57:33 PM
The anime is being produced by A-1 Pictures. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-12-18/ace-attorney-anime-cast-staff-briefly-listed/.96692)
RIP.
I actually kind of like some of A-1 Picture's output in recent years, though. Magi, The Seven Deadly Sins, and Space brothers are all pretty good anime, IMO (Space Brothers in particular is great).
A-1 has some good stuff. I'm not that familiar with their bad stuff, though. Have they ruined adaptions other than those?
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 05, 2016, 04:05:33 PM
I actually kind of like some of A-1 Pictures' output in recent years, though. Magi, The Seven Deadly Sins, and Space Brothers are all pretty good anime, IMO (Space Brothers in particular is great).
Space Brothers is indeed good from what I've seen, and I actually didn't know they made Magi. A-1 isn't the worst studio in the world, but they've made a large assortment of cheap-looking and generally awful anime in recent memory. Ultimate Otaku Teacher, Gate, Black Butler: Book of Circus, Saekano, Sword Art Online 2, Aldnoah.Zero, Persona 4 The Golden Animation, the list goes on. Ultimate Otaku Teacher in particular feels like a long lost early 2000's JC Staff anime, while SAO 2's and Book of Circus' production quality are far below the level of their predecessors despite them having made a shitload of money. I don't doubt that the Ace Attorney anime could turn out well if it has good writing and actual effort put into it, but A-1's animation and directing have been pretty terrible lately.
I think it would also have to vary based on the staff for the show. Pierrot has been terrible for a while but, from what I've heard, they knocked it out of the park with Yona of the Dawn, so there is a chance it could be well done.
The director of Space Brothers, one of the studios better projects, being involved certainly does give me hope.
I personally have a fairly positive opinion about A-1 Pictures since they have made some great shows in recent years like
Silver Spoon. Granted, the last production of theirs that I enjoyed was
The Seven Deadly Sins (I've heard great things about ERASED but I still need to check it out), but that is mainly due to my lack of interest in the shows themselves rather than A-1's treatment and handling of them. They are by no means perfect, but they are still way better than godawful studios like Toei.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 05, 2016, 08:04:40 PM
I think it would also have to vary based on the staff for the show. Pierrot has been terrible for a while but, from what I've heard, they knocked it out of the park with Yona of the Dawn, so there is a chance it could be well done.
Osomatsu-san has also been amazing, so Pierrot has that going for them. I not too optimistic about how they'll handle
Twin Star Exorcists, though.
I just want the release date of the English dub. If Funimation's actors get any parts, I really hope the dude that played King Bradley does Damon Gant. The two of them have very similar personalities.
Crunchyroll will be streaming the series. (https://twitter.com/Crunchyroll/status/715992279874281473)
Quote from: VLordGTZ on April 01, 2016, 03:06:04 PM
Crunchyroll will be streaming the series. (https://twitter.com/Crunchyroll/status/715992279874281473)
Finally. Been waiting for an announcement for this.
First episode thoughts... its the game except uninteresting. The animation is crap. The plot clipped and bland. Fans only.
Quote from: Lord Dalek on April 02, 2016, 11:33:02 AM
First episode thoughts... its the game except uninteresting. The animation is crap. The plot clipped and bland. Fans only.
I haven't even seen any fans of the game who like it, tbh.
Well, it looks like A-1 pretty much used up all of its talented staff on ERASED.
Quote from: Lord Dalek on April 02, 2016, 11:33:02 AM
First episode thoughts... its the game except uninteresting. The animation is crap. The plot clipped and bland. Fans only.
Pretty much. I enjoyed the OP & ED, but then again... I'm trash. :^)
Maybe it's because the first case in the game is pretty much the tutorial level and the first case was pretty bland, I will continue to watch it to give it a chance. Well that and mostly to see how different Japan is from Japaniforina .
The first episode ranked in the top 10 highest-rated anime broadcasts of last week (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-04-07/japan-animation-tv-ranking-march-28-april-3/.100796). It did better in the ratings than episodes of Dragon Ball Super and Yo-Kai Watch.
If nothing else, this anime will probably boost the popularity of the Ace Attorney games in Japan.
I will say that episode 2 was done far better as a whole. Better pacing, good use of added material, and it doesn't rush through the story. It's still not ideal, less CG would be even better, but I feel much more comfortable watching it now.
Wish I didn't have to give a credit card number just to watch this on Crunchyroll. I don't have my own card because I still live with my parents and brother. Looks like I'll have to wait until the dubbed DVDs get released.
Quote from: Peanutbutter on April 20, 2016, 02:24:31 AM
Wish I didn't have to give a credit card number just to watch this on Crunchyroll. I don't have my own card because I still live with my parents and brother. Looks like I'll have to wait until the dubbed DVDs get released.
You can always watch it a week behind. If it's a week old, usually it's free to watch for non subscribers.
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Quote from: Peanutbutter on April 20, 2016, 02:24:31 AM
Wish I didn't have to give a credit card number just to watch this on Crunchyroll. I don't have my own card because I still live with my parents and brother. Looks like I'll have to wait until the dubbed DVDs get released.
You can always watch it a week behind. If it's a week old, usually it's free to watch for non subscribers.
Never been to CrunchyRoll much, so I didn't know. Well now, I shall have to see if I can get time to watch it then! ;)