I've recently taken the time to watch the Rebuild movies, which I've been meaning to for a while but have been holding off on for some reason. While it took me a while to get into the first one, since it starts off with a straight adaptation of the first episode, I became sold by the end, and 2.22 was by just about all means an improvement on that.
I think so far the movies have done well in developing certain character aspects the series tried to touch upon but got to a little too late in the show's run to really get some emotional satisfaction out of. 1.11 was mostly about Shinji and Misato and only got to Rei by the end, but did very well with Misato's character. We're already getting a better idea of her personal struggles than we did on the show at that point, and her relationship with Shinji feels a little more natural. Shinji and Rei's development were mostly kept at around the same level as in the show, but they still nailed that as well.
The second one got more into Gendo and Rei's relationship, which I think was a nice touch in the movies. One aspect that I got from the series but wasn't defined as well as it could have been was that Gendo felt disappointed with Shinji and considered Rei to be his alpha child. That was touched upon a little in 1.11, but was explored even more in 2.22, and helps to delve into his character more. Meanwhile, they humanize Rei a little too, giving her the the need to care for others. Another addition that works, and I think is even a little sweet. Hell, Asuka gets softened a little too, but doesn't lose her edge.
The movies are good for character development so far, and the little changes in story that they use work too. If this is what Anno originally wanted to do with the show, I approve. I think if anything can be faulted by them however, it's that the movies flow a little less naturally than the show. Maybe it's because I'm so used to the series, but I never really felt that there was too much filler in the show. The quieter moments were mostly used for character and emotion-challenging sequences and worked a lot of the time, while obviously you couldn't take out too much of the action. It kind of feels like some of the smaller moments should have stuck in. For example, I thought it was kind of weird that they skipped over Shinji's first day of school and cut straight to Kaji punching him. That just felt a little awkward to me.
Overall, I enjoyed the movies quite fine. I still love the series to death, faults aside, and I'd probably still recommend watching that in full then going over to the movies. We still have 2 more to come though, so my opinion could change after seeing those.
I liked the punch cut, since it was a pretty good sum up at the time of the public's feelings on NERV. That might just be me, though.
But yeah, I like the execution of the movies way better than the show in what they changed and altered. For example, no Rei III as that was lame as hell, not using Toji as the berserk Eva's pilot (which made Shinji's snapping work a LOT better, IMO) tying in better with Asuka, needless filler getting removed but character development still making the cut, and putting the end of the world aspect more upfront to help it feel more than just a monster of the week thing.
I've been saying that every adaption of this story has been better than the last, and this looks to be the best one so far. I honestly really want to see how it all ends because with all of the things that bugged me about the story pretty much ironed out and newfound focus, the end should truly be what everyone has been expecting since episode 25 and 26 rolled around oh so long ago.
Though after 1 stuck so closely to the script of the first chunk of the series (this was a good thing) I was really surprised at the turn the follow up made which pretty much ensures the last movie will be entirely different from the series' ending (and EoE) and how different events played out. So far, I think this is easily the best version of NGE and would recommend it to anyone who enjoys anime.
So far, my only gripe is how long it's taking for the films to come out. Does Quickening even have a release date yet?
Nope. If the releases between 1 and 2 are any indication, it should at least be announced this year, but we haven't heard a thing about it since the TV version of 2 aired in Japan.
I wish I had saved that Evangelion Debriefing thread.
Has anyone watched the Rebuild movies without the TV series? Just curious how much the characters could develop without the biases from that. I was listening to the actor commentary, and Tiffany Grant said Asuka didn't have that relationship with Kaji that was partly backgrounded in the series.
I haven't seen as much of the gimmicks that Anno would love to use from the TV series. Stuff like the Silent Captions flashing by and having 30 seconds of dead time while the girls are in the elevator.
Animation is awesome. It's nice to have a budget fit for the big screen. Plot so far is decent. I guess I prefer to have things slower paced to absorb its depth. The second movie also had the feeling like it could have ended the series right then and there.
Watching 2.22 in Japanese now; there's some Engrish! :light:
Quote from: Angus on May 11, 2011, 05:44:16 PM
Watching 2.22 in Japanese now; there's some Engrish! :light:
Haha, yeah. I found that fun to laugh at while watching it myself.
I saw it at a Con, the audience reaction was pretty funny.
So, I'm currently 17 episodes into NGE. Its pretty good overall, so far, though the quality varies more by episode than by any specific portion of the series (at least, IMO), and I still don't feel that it is that philosophical or psychology-heavy as of yet, but I assume that all comes into play in the final third of the series.
I'll also be honest, based on the huge amount of hate that the character Shinji gets, I honestly don't find him to be a bad or annoying character, as of yet. I'm once again assuming that if his hate is indeed well-deserved since a lot of people complain about him whining too much and being annoying or whatever, it must be mostly restricted to the last third of the series, since from what I've seen so far he doesn't whine nearly as much as I was led to believe that he does and when he does start complaining or whining it usually feels fairly justified since he's an otherwise normal kid being forced to fight in life-or-death situations against his will, so I'd say that entitles him to the honestly pretty modest amount of complaining that he has done so far, but then again maybe my point of view is a bit skewed since I was expecting to hate this character from the get-go and probably was surprised to see that up until now he hasn't really bothered me that much. At the very least I have seen FAR worse anime characters than Shinji, in this regard.
Now, don't get me wrong, I'm not praising him as a character or anything, but honestly I don't find him to be all that unlikable at all.
It's funny, Josh is talking about Gundam Zeta on the AIM chat now, and I'm reminded of how whiny Kamille was in those first few episodes. He becomes a better character later on, but he still maintains that level of bitch throughout, even if it's decreased significantly. The point is that from what I remember, Shinji was nowhere near as bad as say Kamille was in Zeta, and he went through about as much as he did. I honestly think that Shinji had a right to act like the way he did, at least during that part of the show.
I quite liked Shinji, to be honest. It was really easy for me to see where he was coming from.
Make sure to watch End of Evangelion when you're done, as it's by far the best part of the series. You can (and should) skip Death and Rebirth, though.
Yeah, there's really no need to watch Death & Rebirth. Even if you watch the last 6 episodes as originally shown then see the directors cuts of 21-24 and EOE, you can compare and contrast how they differ, but Death is just a clip show and Rebirth is the first half of EOE.
Shinji gets a bad wrap because of the characters that ripped off his archetype and pushed the 'scared' aspect of his character even further into full on bitchfest.
I like him in the movies more because he's more assertive about his problems which not even the most avid NGE hater can misconstrue as whining or being 'emo'.
I finished watching the TV series. I'll wait a little while before I watch the movie. I may also try to new films at some point, as well, which I hear are basically just a remake of the TV series but with better animation and certain aspects being changed for either better or worse.
If you liked the series but thought that there were certain aspects that could have been improved on, mostly in terms of character, the manga and/or movies are for you. They're supposed to be what Anno envisioned the show to be, but wasn't able to complete due to budget restrains and increasing insanity.
I'd recommend them, but if you haven't seen End of Evangelion yet, I strongly suggest you watch that soon.
Actually, the movies start off the same but eventually veer off. I'm actually really eager to see where Anno takes it next.
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg1.sankakustatic.com%2Fwp-content%2Fgallery%2Fcache%2F112251__468x_evangelion-q-006.jpg&hash=61755045951b06767b10c0a94e1a0c9f7c688081)
Fall 2012. You ready?
If I could find a macro of Andy Samberg saying "Hell yeah" from "Like a Boss" now, I totally would use it.
So does anyone else agree with the theory that Rebuild is actually a sequel to Neon Genesis?
http://i47.tinypic.com/zj9csg.jpg
This idea is quite old, I know, but I felt like possibly starting a discussion up in here.
So here's a thought.
Imagine if Gendo Ikari and Malory Archer had a kid. The world would explode.
New trailer for 3.0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Fr4vAbhgrNs)
Looks like Pirate!Asuka will be fighting what appears to be Arael in space.
oh man oh man my body is ready
It's so interesting to hear actual Japanese people get excited over an anime! haha
Are the movies any good? If they are more like the first 22 episodes of the TV series and the first half of EoE, then I'd be highly interested in watching them. If they bring in too much of that philosophical crap, though, then they may not be for me.
The movies are VERY good. They're streamlining the waker elements out of the episodes and sticking to Anno's original ideas. The philosophical crap in EOE isn't there yet, but we're only up to the beginning of Asuka's episodes.
That definitely sounds like my cup of tea, since I really enjoyed most of the TV series and the first half of EoE. More of that is definitely a great thing. :thumbup:
I didn't like the first movie much. Outside of the animation and action, I thought it was quite a bit weaker than the episodes it was adapting. The second film was absolutely brilliant, though. Definitely give 'em a look.
The first is okay, but I'm so sick of the subject material, since I've seen the earlier episodes soooo many times. But it's not bad.
You know, it's been almost 2 years since I last watched the show. I think a rewatching is in order, especially since I got the first 2 volumes of the manga for dirt cheap at a used book store.
I'm doing it with a catch, though- I'm starting at episode 5, since the first 2 volumes tackle the first 4 episodes, and I don't feel like watching them again anyway.
That's cool. I tend to rewatch series when they're memorable and available. Probably why I haven't gotten around to many new ones.
It's easy for me to watch NGE since it's one of the very few anime I have on DVD.
I only caught episode 5 so far, which is a good introduction to Rei. As in, we've met her already, but knew very little about her until now. There's some very subtle hints to her true history here as well, which is great to notice.
So what do you guys think of Kaji?
Watching his and Asuka's first few episodes again, I realize that plenty has been said about Asuka and the rest of the cast but not so much on him. I think that overall, Kaji was more of a plot device to cause conflict between the women and NERV, but it is fascinating to see how he causes Asuka, Misato and Ritsuko to react. Especially Asuka, since he works as both a crush and father figure for her, and it's fascinating to see her switch between these two phases on him.
I thought Kaji was an interesting character. His motives and true alliances were never made 100% clear, but I find that makes him all the more interesting. I like how he clearly caused a lot of mixed reactions from 3 of the main female characters in the series, yet at the same time I'd say that he served as more than just a plot device. Don't forget, he also got Shinji to realize that he was a part of something bigger than himself and couldn't be selfish and just let the city get wrecked simply because he was pissed at this father. If you stop to think about it, Kaji alone deeply affected at least 4 important characters in the series in a big way, with those 4 being Misato, Asuka, Ritsuko, and Shinji (even though they really only had that 1 talk).
I liked Kaji a lot. He seemed like a really good guy, even if he wasn't the most important character. E-K is spot on about him.
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftwitchfilm.com%2Fassets_c%2F2012%2F10%2FEquineEva-thumb-630xauto-34207.jpg&hash=253908b945573c1dd94c84a5285df3392532e869)
Anno gets to ponify his creations while forcing you to watch.
Shit, when did he become a brony?
Quote from: Avaitor on October 17, 2012, 06:41:17 PM
Shit, when did he become a brony?
Guy made a Cutie Honey movie. It's obvious that he likes girl's shows.
So yeah, 3.0 will be forever tainted by the EVA pony.
Well I know that I'll wait for 3.33 no matter what.
Speaking of EVA Pony. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2012-10-21/see-an-evangelion-horse-run-in-2-new-horse-racing-ads)
Six minute sneak-peak of 3.0 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV4jBw9Tu2k)
Also, tons of spoilers have popped up, but I don't believe any of them are 100% confirmed.
Asdf you just made my day.
No, my whole goddamn month.
Evangelion is one of my favorite things ever, and I've been awaiting this damn movie for... longer than I can remember, actually. (Because my memory is reeeeally bad ;A;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KKM-XSYKrFo
Three fucking years.
Posting my review of Evangelion 3.0 in here as well!
http://animationrevelation.com/readables/?p=934
Wow, sucks that 3.0 sounds really dissapointing, especially after the first two films. Looks like 4.0 will have to do a lot to make this story work.
I think the scenes shown in the preview actually did happen...only off-screen due to the timeskip.
Quote from: Rynnec on January 19, 2013, 06:20:42 PM
I think the scenes shown in the preview actually did happen...only off-screen due to the timeskip.
Possibly, but no reference is made to them at all in the film.
That reminds me that I really need to watch the first 2 movies, even if the 3rd one is a disappointment. I DID watch the first half of the movie 1 about a year ago, but then I stopped because it just seemed to be retreading the early events of the show without anything significantly new, so while it was like a more condensed and better animated version of the first few episodes, it didn't really compel me to keep watching it. I'm assuming that the 2nd movie was much better, in that case.
The first movie is cool from an animation standpoint, but nothing spectacular. The second one is excellent, though.
I haven't read the review yet, but I'm just going to wait for 3.33, anyway.
The first one is basically condensing parts of the first half of the anime, the second improves massively on aspects of the original anime where every change it makes is for the better both for general story and for flow.
No offense to Foggle, but I'm gonna wait to see 3.33 to read the review. I kind of want to go into it blind.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on January 20, 2013, 03:57:04 PM
The first one is basically condensing parts of the first half of the anime, the second improves massively on aspects of the original anime where every change it makes is for the better both for general story and for flow.
And 3.0 has almost nothing to do with the original series (or previous movies) at all!
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on January 20, 2013, 03:57:04 PM
No offense to Foggle, but I'm gonna wait to see 3.33 to read the review. I kind of want to go into it blind.
There has never been a more accurate usage of that phrase. :lol:
Quote from: Foggle on January 20, 2013, 08:25:33 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on January 20, 2013, 03:57:04 PM
The first one is basically condensing parts of the first half of the anime, the second improves massively on aspects of the original anime where every change it makes is for the better both for general story and for flow.
And 3.0 has almost nothing to do with the original series (or previous movies) at all!
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on January 20, 2013, 03:57:04 PM
No offense to Foggle, but I'm gonna wait to see 3.33 to read the review. I kind of want to go into it blind.
There has never been a more accurate usage of that phrase. :lol:
I'm getting flashbacks of episode 25 and 26...
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on January 20, 2013, 09:10:20 PM
I'm getting flashbacks of episode 25 and 26...
And I actually liked those! (As companion pieces to End Of Eva. Meaning there's still hope for 3.0 should the final movie make the absolute best of things.)
I just dunno. I just dunno anymore.
If 4.0 aint the best thing I've ever seen I'ma be upset.
3.33 comes out in a couple weeks. It's 9 minutes longer, apparently. Maybe it'll somehow salvage 3.0 (though it'll probably just make it more boring and drawn out).
Blu-Rays of 3.0 come with offers for burgers and life-size Rei doll. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2013-04-20/evangelion-9-patty-burger-comes-with-fork-of-longinus)
I wish I was making this up.
And people think that the Heart Attack Cafe is evil.
DAT BURGER :swoon:
Quote from: Daikun on April 20, 2013, 05:02:07 PM
Blu-Rays of 3.0 come with offers for burgers and life-size Rei doll. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/interest/2013-04-20/evangelion-9-patty-burger-comes-with-fork-of-longinus)
I wish I was making this up.
Ah
Evangelion, you corporate sell-out you.... :awesome:
And that burger looks revolting. :gonk:
Tada! (http://demk8.tumblr.com/post/51603153897/this-is-me-watching-the-episode-25-26-of-n-g-e)
Quote from: Avaitor on May 29, 2013, 01:00:14 PM
Tada! (http://demk8.tumblr.com/post/51603153897/this-is-me-watching-the-episode-25-26-of-n-g-e)
Am I the only person who "got" what was going on in those episodes the first time I watched them, and also didn't think they were all
that weird? :sweat:
Quote from: Cartoon X on May 29, 2013, 04:03:36 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on May 29, 2013, 01:00:14 PM
Tada! (http://demk8.tumblr.com/post/51603153897/this-is-me-watching-the-episode-25-26-of-n-g-e)
Am I the only person who "got" what was going on in those episodes the first time I watched them, and also didn't think they were all that weird? :sweat:
Yes.
Quote from: Avaitor on May 29, 2013, 01:00:14 PM
Tada! (http://demk8.tumblr.com/post/51603153897/this-is-me-watching-the-episode-25-26-of-n-g-e)
This is me watching the whole damn series.
I dunno. At times the show could be a little confusing, but I caught on quick to what was going on. Of course, I went in expecting a psychologically-heavy show so I paid closer attention to scenes and dialogue than a lot of people did their first time, I suppose. There are some things I didn't and still don't get like a fair amount of the symbolism used in End of Evangelion, but as for the series itself it wasn't the life-changing experience not a really philosophically-heavy show like I was expecting from all the fuss and hearsay. I got out of it great character studies and interesting philosophical concepts (although hearing the same ideas get repeated in different ways again and again especially in the last two episodes got a little tedious), and overall I found it to be a highly entertaining, if not perfect experience, and felt it had a quite provocative and interesting story with some nicely intricate, flawed characters that helped the show discuss it's ideas on the nature of humanity, depression, and identity rather brilliantly.
If nothing else, the Instrumentality sequence in End of Evangelion is one of the coolest, saddest, beautiful, horrific things I've ever seen in animation. It's awesome and I loved it. :D
3.33 English dub premieres in NYCC October 11. (http://funimation.tumblr.com/post/63108030833/evangelion-3-33-english-dub-premiere-at-new-york-comic)
I guess the Toonami premiere will be much sooner than we were expecting.
I'm expecting either daylight savings day or thanksgiving weekend.
Today is the day... (http://en.rocketnews24.com/2015/06/22/check-your-calendar-anime-fans-today-is-the-day-the-on-screen-events-of-evangelion-begin)
Happy Evangelion Day, everyone! :blush:
3.33 has finally had its stateside release, to what appears to be no fanfare.
Seriously, I didn't even find out until I went to Best Buy today.
There would have been fanfare... if the movie was actually good.
Gainax has been sued. (https://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2017-06-23/gainax-ordered-to-pay-studio-khara-100-million-yen/.117898)
Well, I guess that explains why Rebuild 4.0 never came out. Anno is behind the lawsuit, since Gainax never paid him for his collaborations with Studio Khara (which includes these films). Oops.
The final Rebuild film is due for a 2020 release. (http://www.ign.com/articles/2018/07/20/next-evangelion-movie-coming-in-2020)
YOU BLEW IT FUNI! (https://youtu.be/13nSISwxrY4)
Not only is Netflix streaming Eva, they're redubbing it too. (https://twitter.com/amandawinnlee/status/1068631306009858049) Don't know what to say. The ADV dub had flaws, but the cast grew into their roles over the show so much that it's hard to imagine anyone but Tiffany Grant as Asuka or Spike Spencer as Shinji. Even when Funi had to replace most of the actors for Rebuild since most of them left voice acting by that point, they still hired soundalikes and kept some of the old cast around.
I'm all for a redub since the original does have its awkward moments, but yeah, I'd want as much of the original dub cast back as possible. Especially Spike Spencer, Tiffany Grant, and Allison Keith. I associate those voices too much with the characters at this point and it'd be a shame to lose them, especially since they're enthusiastic about returning to their roles.
To be honest, I got into Eva with the Japanese voices, so I don't have a specific attachment to the English dub, but it seems silly to me to recast the leads if they are still willing to be a part of the franchise.
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 01, 2018, 03:01:43 PM
but it seems silly to me to recast the leads if they are still willing to be a part of the franchise.
This seems to be common with Netflix dubs. Michelle Ruff said nobody contacted her to play Rukia in the dub for the live-action Bleach movie. And they only brought back Vic, Aaron, and Caitlin for the FMA live-action dub even though Travis Willingham and Laura Bailey live in California.
It's weird to see them redub it, but as mentioned before, it's not like the original dub has aged perfectly. It'd be a bigger crime if they did this to Bebop, but yeah, hopefully they at least stick to the movie cast. This could be more of a DB Kai do-over than anything.
Although unless the dub is a real banger, I'll probably pass and stick to my DVDs, as I originally planned.
Quote from: Avaitor on December 02, 2018, 05:34:47 PMhopefully they at least stick to the movie cast. This could be more of a DB Kai do-over than anything.
Asuka's VA doesn't sound too hopeful about it. (https://www.facebook.com/groups/2405597801/permalink/10157952411277802/)
NONE of the old VAs will be in the Netflix dub. (https://twitter.com/amandawinnlee/status/1109279696347291648)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D2UBSkxXcAA4WgD.png:large)
The Netflix release will be June 21. (http://toonamifaithful.com/evangelion-will-return-to-us-shores-via-netflix-on-june-21-will-see-a-recast)
Yo. (https://www.netflix.com/title/81033445)
Skimmed through some of the scenes, and all of the memorable lines like "I mustn't run away" or "I'm so fucked up" or "Are you riding his baloney pony?" are all gone. And the new lines don't have the same impact. The performances are fine though. The new Shinji sounds a little too much like Kirito from SAO Abridged, but everyone else is alright.
But that's an issue I have with some modern dubs. They're just alright. Maybe it's nostalgia talking, but I kind of preferred the 00s era of dubbing because for every godawful dub you got, there was also an extremely good dub of a show that adapted the source material to make it more natural instead of just trying to cram in the subtitle lines into the mouthflaps with as little change as possible. But now, while the days of hackdubs are almost extinct, modern dubs seem more faithful in a sterile way than a creative one. They're competent, but not really interesting. There's still occasionally a dub where you can tell the director and actors had fun with the show, but those seem too far and few between compared to back then. I know that's because the speedy production of simuldubs and demand for anime as soon as it comes out in Japan will dampen the creative process, but seeing as this dub of Evangelion took more time to produce yet still has the issues of modern anime dubs suggests another issue entirely.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9wJ-SwW4AU1VQi.png
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D9wKAWLWsAIvDMO.png
Haha, oh geez. Between this and Tiffany Grant's comments (https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/295379307268669440/591832289667710976/TiffanyGrantEVa.png) about how her experience with this dubbing went, Netflangelion just sounds like a disaster.
God Khara sucks. Yet more proof that Rebuild was a fucking mistake.
Tiffany Grant is calling Anno the Japanese George Lucas on her facebook. (https://www.facebook.com/groups/2405597801/permalink/10158526983692802/?comment_id=10158532923457802&reply_comment_id=10158533025887802&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D)
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on June 23, 2019, 03:50:00 PM
Tiffany Grant is calling Anno the Japanese George Lucas on her facebook. (https://www.facebook.com/groups/2405597801/permalink/10158526983692802/?comment_id=10158532923457802&reply_comment_id=10158533025887802&comment_tracking=%7B%22tn%22%3A%22R%22%7D)
"Asuka's a tsundere, Shinji's life sucks and humanity always gets destroyed. And again, it's like poetry, it's sort of, they rhyme. Every stanza kind of rhymes with the last one"
The first 10 mins of Shin Evangelion will be screened in Japan, LA's Anime Expo, Shanghai, and Paris' Japan Expo on July 6th. (https://twitter.com/pkjd/status/1143092251649703936?s=21)
LumRanmaYasha and I will be at Anime Expo as press for All-Comic (as well as Toonami Faithful on my end), so hopefully I'll be able to check it out.
The first 10 minutes were the good part of 3.0 so you may be in for a treat. Have fun! :im_nabeshin:
Turns out the license to use "Fly Me to the Moon" is cheap as fuck. (https://twitter.com/MilkteaMomoko/status/1148642511193165824)
Really, Netflix? You couldn't pull out an extra grand, especially with all the billions you spend?
Freaking finally! (https://twitter.com/pkjd8I8/status/1159663264126476289)
The lost NGE AIDS PSA has been found. (https://twitter.com/DeathlyPrice/status/1246119998302674944)
GKIDS is bringing the series to Blu-Ray. (https://twitter.com/GKIDSfilms/status/1312528559005548544)
There's rumors the final Rebuild will be as long as 4 hours. Someone said 6 hours, but it was tongue-in-cheek.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on October 08, 2020, 01:49:32 PMThere's rumors the final Rebuild will be as long as 4 hours. Someone said 6 hours, but it was tongue-in-cheek.
Who wants to bet someone will start a #ReleaseTheAnnoCut hashtag for that version?
Trailer for the final movie. (https://twitter.com/catsuka/status/1316995941459701760)
Release date: January 23, 2021
Finally, the saga is complete.
(https://i.imgur.com/y90I0Y4.jpg)
Some clips from the new movie leaked, and...
Spoiler
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Why are Kaworu and Rei a couple?
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on March 12, 2021, 03:17:53 AM
Some clips from the new movie leaked, and...
Spoiler
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EwI0WmRWQAgbNpa?format=png&name=small)
Why are Kaworu and Rei a couple?
Well, they do have parts of the souls of Adam and Lilith.
Didn't the new translation write out Kaworu's queer subtext by Gainax's request? This seems like a hell of an overcorrection.
It's Khara now. Gainax is a corpse these days.
If you are also familiar with the Kabbalah in Jewish mysticism, Lilith was the first wife of Adam before God created Eve. If Rebuild is still consistent with the original anime in regarding Kaworu and Rei's souls, they are both derived from the Angels Adam and Lilith.
Still very odd when Rei and Kaworu have little personal history with each other in all the timelines I've seen.
Spoiler
Somehow not as confusing as Shinji/Mari though. Maybe in context, the full movie will explain things better, but they barely even talked to each other in the last two. Same thing with Asuka and Kensuke. I'm not into Eva shipping, but it's hard to get these pairings.
The NDA that Netflix made the VAs sign for their dub has expired. Amanda Winn Lee reveals an interesting behind-the-scenes tidbit.
https://twitter.com/amandawinnlee/status/1376266147750797312
3.0 + 1.0 premieres on Amazon on August 13. (https://twitter.com/khara_inc/status/1410614176179912707)
Khara can't find a consistent license holder for their IP?
So 3.0+1.0's out, and I noticed not only did Amazon redub the films, but they brought back even more ADV-era actors than the Funi dub.
They did bring a lot of people back from the cast circa The End of Evangelion dub, mostly notably Amanda Winn-lee as Rei, who was replaced by Brina Palencia in FUNi's dub. However, they didn't bring back the previous actors for Ritsuko, Kaji, Kensuke and Kaworu, which is particularly funny in the latter's example because it means that Kaworu has had a different actor in every single iteration of the Eva dubs so far. :sweat:
Here's a chart of all the different dub iterations of Eva from EvaMonkey. (https://twitter.com/EvaMonkey/status/1426185461735862276)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E8rTHykWQAAenTb?format=jpg&name=medium)
I think the latest dub starts off a little rocky and stilted in 1.11, but as the movies go on the script and acting starts feeling more natural. Which is interesting because I think the first one of these they dubbed was 3.0 + 1.0, but that definitely came across as the strongest performance-wise, with the exception of Kimberly Yates as Hikari, who seemed to not have any voice control and delivered most of her lines in one pitch and a really awkward delivery.
The movie itself was really satisfying and I loved it. I shared some thoughts on it over on Letterboxd, (https://letterboxd.com/lumranmayasha/film/evangelion-3010-thrice-upon-a-time/) but I thought it was a really nice coda to the series and reflection on Anno's mental health and view of what it means to live in the world as has been filtered over the franchise over the years.
It's a film I've got thoughts about and I'm not sure what to make of them. The parts where it remakes EoE I didn't like, because they were either not as well-directed (the giant naked Rei scene especially) as the original scenes or feel like they're there just to go "Remember EoE, guys?". While the Shinji/Mari ending makes sense on a behind the scenes metafictional level, still annoyed at the possibly unintentional pun that Anno getting married led to Shinji getting Mari'd, I don't get it within this series' story when the two barely had any screentime together until near the climax of this film. And even though the movie's two and a half hours long, I genuinely thought it needed more breathing space for scenes it wasn't giving enough to, enough that Anno could've stretched this movie's plot out to a 2-cour show. But as a whole, I liked it. It's all about Anno looking at his mental health and viewing it with kindness instead of frustration this time. I loved the Unit-01 vs Unit-13 fight in all of its corny glory. And the music too, it's Shiro Sagisu at his best.
NGE Ultimate Edition coming to Blu-Ray. (https://twitter.com/Polygon/status/1428386344582189060)
This is very tempting, even for someone like me who has no real plans to rewatch the series again.
Having disposable income can be a bitch sometimes. Between this, the Robotech set, and the new Iron Maiden release, deluxe editions are going to make me... not broke, but spend way more than I should.
Been thinking more about the last Rebuild movie.
-These movies just don't do Asuka any favors. They cut out all the nuances and interesting parts of her show characters and make her feel like an extra, barring a few scenes.
-Same with Misato. I don't get the deal with turning Misato into another Gendo for the latter two movies. And since Gendo's still a major player in these films too, there isn't enough time to go around to differentiate the two characters or make note of the irony that time's repeating itself. And by extension, Ritsuko gets nothing to do at all.
-After reading production notes and watching a little of the Anno documentary, it's obvious how much these movies were written with zero idea about the next movie. Which isn't a bad thing, and the films still loosely follow the show plot anyway, but you can still tell ideas like what they were going to do with Mari or anything involving SEELE or WILLE had little forethought.
-On a Freudian note, compared to "Are you riding his baloney pony?!" and EoE's infamous scene, this is the one finale where Shinji's the least sexually humiliated.
We probably won't see the last of Evangelion until Anno exits this plane of existence: https://www.google.com/amp/s/collider.com/hideaki-anno-evangelion-interview/amp/