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It's Revelation Time! => Nickelodeon => Topic started by: Kiddington on July 06, 2011, 03:14:35 PM

Title: CatDog
Post by: Kiddington on July 06, 2011, 03:14:35 PM
Since this ain't making AR's top 65 list (unless you guys all declare insanity within the top 10  :happytime:), figured I'd make a thread for this now. Hey, Rocket Power got one, so... yeah.

Does anyone here like this? Anyone at all? Honestly, it never ceases to amaze me how many Youtube nostalgia buffs fondly remember this thing, as if it were some arthouse masterpiece of the 90's Nicktoons era ("OH YEAH CATDOG I IZ IN LOVE WID DAT SHOW", etc.). This forum (and TZ, to a lesser extent) might be the only places I've seen on the internet that doesn't have legions of fans frothing at the mouth over anything and everything Nickelodeon did during the 90's. It was a great era, sure... but not everything was great, or even watchable. Case and point? This.

I may have liked this show as a kid (almost sure I did), but after re-visiting it last year when Nicktoons started re-airing it again, I've come to realize it hasn't aged well. At all. Simply put, this show sucks. Un-charming characters (everybody is a fucking jerk in this show; EVERYBODY), bad voice acting, for the most part (Tom Kenny, you'll be taking this one to the grave), bad artwork, terrible writing, hardly a laugh to be found... and lest I not forget, the worst offender of them all; the Greaser Dogs. Almost every episode of this series (about a good 95%, to be sure) centered around these stereotypical "bully" characters, torturing the ever-living fuck out of CatDog... to the point where only a total masochist could actually enjoy this type of "entertainment". This was considered the basis of comedy in Pete Hannan's eyes, and IMO, makes for a totally miserable viewing experience. All things considered, I hate this show. A lot.

Looking back, probably the only cool thing about it was the theme song (which, is still pretty awesome). That, and the ever-excellent Jim Cummings turns in yet another solid performance on the voice acting front, in spite of working as a character with no redeeming qualities whatsoever. Other than that? Ughhhhh. Chalk this one up as a bad misfire on Nick's part.

Sooooo... yeah, sorry for the long write-up; just wanted to share my thoughts. Anyone else?
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: Avaitor on July 06, 2011, 03:39:53 PM
Why do we keep on making threads for shows that we don't like? ???

I liked CatDog a little as a kid, but I don't think it was a favorite or anything. I had a couple of tapes and kids meal toys from it, but I had stuff like that for basically every Nicktoon back then. I haven't really watched it in ages, though, and I don't think I'd like it if I tried to anytime soon. So yeah, I'm going to stay ignorant I guess.
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: Eddy on July 06, 2011, 03:48:10 PM
I always hated CatDog. Even has a kid I couldn't find any enjoyment in it. I hated the characters, the writing, the everything. And was it just me or did the Rancid Rabbit come off as a copy of the Red Guy from Cow & Chicken? Popping up everywhere with a different occupation and always causing problems for Cat and Dog...

My young cousin loved this show growing up. I never understood what she saw in it. And you're right, everyone in this show was a jerk.

That said, the theme song is amazing.
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 06, 2011, 05:42:34 PM
This guy made Earthworm Jim.

And no, this doesn't come close.
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: Commode on July 06, 2011, 05:47:54 PM
Quote from: Desensitized on July 06, 2011, 05:42:34 PM
This guy made Earthworm Jim.
Huh?  I think you're thinking of Catscratch.  The creator of that show, Doug TenNapel(or whatever the fuck his name is), was also the creator of Earthworm Jim.
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 06, 2011, 06:00:35 PM
Quote from: SNES Chalmers on July 06, 2011, 05:47:54 PM
Quote from: Desensitized on July 06, 2011, 05:42:34 PM
This guy made Earthworm Jim.
Huh?  I think you're thinking of Catscratch.  The creator of that show, Doug TenNapel(or whatever the fuck his name is), was also the creator of Earthworm Jim.
I thought he also created this?

Whatever, they both blow.
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: Kiddington on July 06, 2011, 06:07:32 PM
Quote from: Desensitized on July 06, 2011, 06:00:35 PM
Quote from: SNES Chalmers on July 06, 2011, 05:47:54 PM
Quote from: Desensitized on July 06, 2011, 05:42:34 PM
This guy made Earthworm Jim.
Huh?  I think you're thinking of Catscratch.  The creator of that show, Doug TenNapel(or whatever the fuck his name is), was also the creator of Earthworm Jim.
I thought he also created this?
Nope. CatDog was created by Peter Hannan. To my knowledge, this is the only animated series he's ever worked on; nothing before, and nothing after.

Catscratch was created by super right-wing nut Doug TenNapel (you were right, Chalmers; that is his name), who previously made the Earthworm Jim series. As far as I know, he hasn't worked on anything since; now he basically spends his free time blogging about how awful Obama is or some shit. I dunno, I don't really care. He's a blowhard, though; I know that much.

...and there you have it. Huzzah!
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 06, 2011, 06:09:59 PM
Oh, well thanks! I actually did think he made this.

I know Beau has some issues with Doug TenNapel, but that's obviously for another thread.
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: Commode on July 06, 2011, 06:21:08 PM
Quote from: Kiddington on July 06, 2011, 06:07:32 PM
To my knowledge, this is the only animated series he's ever worked on; nothing before, and nothing after.
Wikipedia says he also worked on Robot Chicken.  Just as shitty, in my opinion.
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: Kiddington on July 06, 2011, 06:35:51 PM
Quote from: SNES Chalmers on July 06, 2011, 06:21:08 PM
Quote from: Kiddington on July 06, 2011, 06:07:32 PM
To my knowledge, this is the only animated series he's ever worked on; nothing before, and nothing after.
Wikipedia says he also worked on Robot Chicken.  Just as shitty, in my opinion.
Hmm, I guess I should clarifiy; CatDog is the only animated series, as far as I know, that he's ever been in charge of. Obviously with that, he was just some guy on the side.

I didn't know he had actually worked on Robot Chicken, though. Thanks!
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 06, 2011, 06:55:41 PM
Honestly, I neither ever liked or disliked this show. I was always indifferent to it as a kid, and upon trying to re-watch some of it to see how it holds up recently....yeah, I'm still pretty indifferent to it. Its harmless enough that it doesn't overly annoy or piss me off, but absolutely nothing about it entertains me in the slightest, so really I just don't feel like wasting any energy taking a side on whether its shit or not. To me its just kind of a boring part of Nick's past that I usually forget about until somebody else goes out of their way to mention it.
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: Eddy on July 06, 2011, 09:50:40 PM
Regarding Catscratch, I'd say that was probably the most forgettable Nicktoon ever. To me anyway. I honestly can't remember anything about the show other than it was bad and it was about cats.
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: Kiddington on July 06, 2011, 11:25:09 PM
Catscratch had the guy who played Newman on Seinfeld (Wayne Knight) voicing one of the main characters. Always thought that was kinda cool.

...other than that, though, screw it. I don't want to say it was "terribad" or anything quite that extreme, but damn, did it ever summarize mid-2000's Nickelodeon to a tee; mediocre, underwhelming, and totally forgettable. Worst part of it was, the production crew had some good names behind it, too. Such a waste of talent.
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: Lord Dalek on July 08, 2011, 06:39:20 AM
As the title of the show clearly suggests this was nothing more than a forgettable mishmash of cliches stolen from other BETTER 90s animated shows. Best left to the obscurity that good stuff like Ah! Real Monsters has been sadly awarded.
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: Mr. Big on December 29, 2011, 01:58:21 AM
Thought I'd share this. Anyone remember Ray Pointer over at GAC? Some may not realize that he worked in animation for many years at various places. At one point he was a sheet timer on CatDog throughout the run.

Anyway Ray was caricatured in one episode as "Amazing Ray" the magician. Needless to say he was not pleased. He considered it an insult.

It's up on YouTube, but lord knows for how long. So take a peek (or not) before Viacom sics their lawyers on them.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AM74ZgHE-4I
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: Goldstar on April 19, 2012, 08:21:44 PM
Quote from: Eddy on July 06, 2011, 09:50:40 PM
Regarding Catscratch, I'd say that was probably the most forgettable Nicktoon ever. To me anyway. I honestly can't remember anything about the show other than it was bad and it was about cats.

Catscratch was created by Doug TeNapel (Earthworm Jim). Too bad that it wasn't as funny as EWJ.

I can't say that I was ever a fan of CatDog either. Much of the shows' outrageousness seemed forced and the non-stop Cat bashing got old real fast.
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: Kiddington on April 19, 2012, 08:45:24 PM
Yeah, this show made its living off of browbeating Cat. I can barely recall a single episode that the Greaser Dogs didn't play a part in. If you want static programming, look no further.

...anyway, on another note, I haven't been following the DVD releases for this much (for obvious reasons of course), but apparently they're up to Season 2 Part 1 now, or will be in June. It appears to be as terrible of a value as the rest of them, ($20 for 12 episodes, no special features... and it's CatDog), but, it looks like they're at least selling. I guess that's good news.

Still wish they'd get around to Rugrats, though. I just can't believe they're letting Nick's original flagship series continue to rot in a vault somewhere. Shame, that is.
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: SSJ Jake on October 10, 2012, 09:30:23 AM
I liked CatDog when I was a young kid, but as I got older I saw it for the bland, idiotic garbage it is. I don't know anyone my age who still likes the show. If you still like it fair enough, but why? I'll go as far as saying I think Pelswick was a better show.  For a show about a siamese twin cat and dog it's really boring. The show relies to heavily on cliches and unfunny running gags. But perhaps what kills it for me is Dog. I hate this character so fucking much. While Cat is a greedy, cynical asshole, you can't really blame him, being stuck to a sociopathic moron who uncaringly drags his body on concrete just to chase cars. When they tried to make him seem sympathetic because of his stupidity I can't help but think in my mind "no no no, fuck this guy, fuck him, he's an asshole and doesn't deserve a shred of pity". I know there are other characters like Dog, Peter Griffin being another example. However, and I know some will disagree with me, I find Peter's antics to be charmingly retarded, his silly voice actually works and he usually gets what he deserves. Dog is as repulsive as every other character in the show, is usually unhurt in favor of Cat getting the beat down and as Kiddington pointed out, is one of Tom Kenny's worst roles. How anyone can find SpongeBob to be annoying but actually like Dog I haven't a clue.
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on October 10, 2012, 09:56:11 AM
At least with jackasses like Rancid Rabbit or those Greasers, we were supposed to dislike them. With Dog, he's the bloody main character. We're expected to laugh at him senselessly torturing the closest thing he has to a brother. I think Nick wanted to go the slapstick route here, but they took it too far and just lost tact in favor of being mindlessly zany.
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: Avaitor on October 10, 2012, 01:34:17 PM
Yeah, when I watch the show again, the show is so needlessly cruel to Cat. The Greasers, Winslow, Rancid Rabbit and everyone else just piss on him because he's a cat, I guess. If he was at least as vain or vindictive as Eddy or Chicken, I'd be fine with it, but all Cat really seem to want was peace and quiet, but considering how rambunctious his other half was, that just couldn't happen.

And Dog really did not come out as a likable character as a result. Even as a major dog lover as a kid, I still wasn't a big fan of him. I also remember that they tried pretty hard to make his "HI-HO-DIGGITY" cry a catchphrase for kids, but that never happened.
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: Kiddington on October 16, 2012, 06:00:03 PM
At the very least, Rancid Rabbit was somewhat funny as a sadistic villain (Billy West probably makes it work more than anything, though).

Everyone else... just prototypical stock bully characters with no personality whatsoever. It's why I hated the Greasers so much, and why I could never understand the continued large role they played in this show (off the top of my head, I can recall maybe 5-6 episodes they were nowhere to be seen in; that's how bad it was).
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: talonmalon333 on September 08, 2014, 04:25:04 PM
It's interesting how the two main characters in this show are voice by two greats, Jim Cummings and Tom Kenny. But they both give pretty lousy performances for those characters.
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: Avaitor on September 08, 2014, 06:23:47 PM
I don't think Jim Cummings was that bad as Cat, actually. He did as good of a job with the weaker material he was given than he should have.

Tom Kenny as Dog is a different story, though.
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 08, 2014, 06:27:36 PM
Jim Cummings is pretty much good in anything. Tom Kenny usually needs good material, from my experience.
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: talonmalon333 on September 08, 2014, 06:39:58 PM
I thought Jim Cummings was good in everything until I rewatched this. The moment I heard him again I thought the voice was all wrong.
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: gunswordfist on September 08, 2014, 07:23:52 PM
...i had no clue.
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: talonmalon333 on September 30, 2014, 02:19:04 PM
So I've decided that this is the worst Nicktoon. Even more so than Rocket Power. At least I can get some entertainment from that show. CatDog is simply one of the most boring things ever. And it gets no more right than Rocket Power.
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: Kiddington on October 13, 2014, 07:26:38 PM
A complete series set is on the way, for those that actually care. (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/CatDog-The-Complete-Series/20307)

$40 for this, when the Hey Arnold only cost $20? Heeeeelllll no. I still don't get how we've come this far with literally nothing announced for Rugrats (except those cheap Amazon mods that I refuse to buy), and yet arguably the worst Nicktoon ever is getting a complete set, through standard retail no less.

Whatever man.
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: Avaitor on October 13, 2014, 07:42:32 PM
It really is a shame that Nick and Shout! haven't renewed their contract. I'd gladly buy Rugrats or Salute Your Shorts sets.

But CatDog? Nah.
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: Kiddington on October 13, 2014, 07:50:26 PM
I still can't believe Rugrats was never included on the original contract.

For being basically Nick's "breakout" series, they've been highly apathetic towards it for a long time now. That's weird to me.
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 13, 2014, 08:31:20 PM
I think we speculated that Nick was holding onto Rugrats because they were going to do something with it. We were clearly wrong.

No idea why they're holding back on one of their most popular shows.
Title: Re: CatDog
Post by: talonmalon333 on October 13, 2014, 10:31:42 PM
Last night, this opinion of mine was reiterated.

Quote from: talonmalon333 on September 30, 2014, 02:19:04 PM
So I've decided that this is the worst Nicktoon.

You can guess how I feel about it getting this release.