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1st TV Anime Show Starring Lupin III in 3 Decades to Launch in Italy (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-10-14/1st-tv-anime-show-starring-lupin-iii-in-3-decades-to-launch-in-italy/.79924)
The crew is getting me pretty hyped. :shakeshakeshake: This one's set in Italy and appears to continue from the "reboot" started by Fujiko Mine. Directed by an important key animator from Cagliostro.
QuoteTomonaga noted that the Lupin III anime that his generation watched four decades ago was completely different from the previous anime aimed at children. He added that it had a very huge impact on the diehard adult fanbase. For the generation that already experienced that amazement as well as the generation unaware of those days, Tomonaga wants to make an exciting animation that is realistic yet sprinkled with fantastic elements. Furthermore, he wants to depict a Lupin in which conflicting elements coexist — hard-boiled yet comical, cool yet tongue-in-cheek.
Sounds like a return to form!
This reminds me I should watch the old series and Cagliostro, I've only seen Fujiko Mine which wasn't very good IMO. Good to see Koike's influence on the character designs outlast that series, however. He's simply a great artist.
What are your experiences with the franchise?
I was about to point out Fujiko Mine until I realized that this was the first TV anime STARRING LUPIN III himself since the pink jacket series. Anyways, of course I'm very excited for this, so I'll definitely be keeping up with this when it comes out. I've been a fan of Lupin ever since it used to air on the Old School Anime block of Adult Swim.
Quote from: goody2shoes on October 14, 2014, 05:12:14 PM
I've only seen Fujiko Mine which wasn't very good IMO.
:wth: That was the best Lupin anime ever IMO, and one of my all time favorites. :wth:
Anyway, I'm incredibly pumped for this new series! I was hoping the blue jacket Lupin from the movie that came out this year would end up being a long running thing, and it looks like my wish was granted! :joy: Description and staff sound godlike. This will probably end up being my anime of 2015.
QuoteFranchise veteran Kazuhide Tomonaga (key animator on Lupin the 3rd: The Mystery of Mamo and Lupin III: The Castle of Cagliostro, particularly the whole iconic car chase)
The two best movies! I am excited. And that promo art looks absolutely incredible. This is officially my only anticipated anime.
Also, which Koike are you referring to?
Quote from: gunswordfist on October 14, 2014, 08:25:17 PM
Also, which Koike are you referring to?
Takeshi Koike, the director of Redline.
Lupin is one of my all time favorite anime/manga franchises, and I'm positively ecstatic that it's getting a new tv anime! Like Foggle, this will probably be my favorite anime of next year. ;D
Quote from: Cartoon X on October 14, 2014, 08:50:41 PM
Lupin is one of my all time favorite anime/manga franchises, and I'm positively ecstatic that it's getting a new tv anime! Like Foggle, this will probably be my favorite anime of next year. ;D
I hope it's fun!
Quote from: Foggle on October 14, 2014, 08:08:23 PMThat was the best Lupin anime ever IMO
Arguably, it's not really a Lupin anime.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 14, 2014, 09:09:17 PM
Arguably, it's not really a Lupin anime.
Eh...most of the stories are similar in feel to the kinds that have happened in previous series (albeit darker/more "adult") as well as the manga, and Lupin is still in most of the episodes. So, while Fujiko might be the main character and focus of the show, I'd still call it a
Lupin anime.
Lupin was in most of the episodes of Fujiko Mine, and several of them actually had him as the focal character. Every Lupin series feels different, as does the manga, as do the movies, and it was unmistakably Lupin III through and through.
You could make the case, is what I'm saying.
Nonetheless, I'm still excited for this.
Welp, now I really should get to watching more of Fujiko Mine than just the first 2 episodes.
In case anybody missed it, another key visual:
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Edit: A little perspective edit I whipped up:
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Dig that art-style. I definitely need to keep an eye out for this.
AOTY 2015 confirmed?
Unless they were to somehow miraculously adapt the rest of FMP (as in, something that's impossible and will never happen), I don't see anything else that could possibly compete with this.
The only thing that could compare for me is if the Heaven's Feel movie(s) end up coming out next year.
I like Fate, but I don't think that it'd overtake a good Lupin series for me. Mostly because I like how, even with the more adult interpretations of the franchise, Lupin is always full of fun characters, and I just love that in anime, especially with the gritty shows like AoT dominating the market.
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 15, 2014, 12:21:59 AM
I like Fate, but I don't think that it'd overtake a good Lupin series for me. Mostly because I like how, even with the more adult interpretations of the franchise, Lupin is always full of fun characters, and I just love that in anime, especially with the gritty shows like AoT dominating the market.
Normally I would agree with you, but HF features some of the most badass and downright insane fight scenes ever written. If done proper justice, it'll be hard for the majority of action anime to ever compare.
Good Lupin will always be top tier for me, though.
Bad-ass action is awesome, but I just simply prefer a more optimistic and fun spirited show that's done extremely well over a dark and more intense show that's done extremely well, which is what I mean. That doesn't mean that I can't enjoy the hell out of both, though. ;)
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 15, 2014, 12:30:44 AM
Bad-ass action is awesome, but I just simply prefer a more optimistic and fun spirited show that's done extremely well over a dark and more intense show that's done extremely well, which is what I mean. That doesn't mean that I can't enjoy the hell out of both, though. ;)
I totally get that. Though if this new Lupin series decides to take after Fujiko Mine in terms of tone, it'll be simultaneously optimistic/fun and dark/intense!
That's even better! :joy:
There is very little that could possibly make me more excited for an anime than I am for this. Factoring in all it's media, Lupin is my second favorite anime/manga franchise. Even a One-Punch Man anime adaption by Trigger wouldn't get me as excited as I am for this, and that's a damn high bar.
What the hell is Trigger?
Let's see, a few dream projects could top this if it lives up to its hype. Stuff like Outlaw Star getting a good direct sequel series and a Trigun Maximum anime.
Quote from: gunswordfist on October 15, 2014, 01:02:37 AM
What the hell is Trigger?
They made
Kill la Kill.
Even a
Trigun Maximum anime might not get me quite as excited as I am for new
Lupin. Doesn't mean I wouldn't still be overwhelmed with joy if one were to actually get made. Seeing Wolfwood vs. Livio and Livio vs. Elendira animated would be a dream come true. :swoon:
Since this is supposedly a sequel to Fujiko Mine, which was a prequel to the original series, I guess the chronology is now Green -> Blue -> Red -> Pink... not that it matters.
I have mucho hype for this. Still a month and a half 'til Koike's movie finally gets released on BD, though. :'(
Finally got to watch Daisuke Jigen's Gravestone! It's pretty sweet; amazing art, animation, and soundtrack. This is probably even closer to Monkey Punch Lupin than the Fujiko Mine series was; it's quite violent (with some fairly graphic gore) compared to past anime offerings, and some of the Fujiko stuff is pretty gross IMO. It's really disappointing to see that early 1970's-esque rape-y crap rear its ugly head again after the previous anime's more mature sexuality. That said, this movie is absolutely fantastic on the whole... though I'd struggle to call it a legitimate movie, really. It's more like a two-part episode from a TV series. Which makes sense, because it's pretty obvious that this was made as a lead-in to the upcoming blue jacket series.
But before I forget, OH MY GOD DAT ENDING!!!
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MAMO APPEARS HOLY SHIT
Quote from: Foggle on December 08, 2014, 09:08:32 PM
But before I forget, OH MY GOD DAT ENDING!!!
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MAMO APPEARS HOLY SHIT
Oho, so that's who that was. Left me confused, guess it's time to watch that movie then.
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Still haven't finished S1 though.
But yeah, I liked it. 't was 7/10 good because the story wasn't that outstanding, but it's worth it just for the gorgeous, polished animation. It's what Fujiko should've looked like. Bless Koike, I'll miss him.
Hoping the series will be closer to Monkey Punch's style, though. Dark and mature can still be silly and humorous, and that's what the new Lupins have been missing for me. Someone on ANN made an interesting post about it: http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/bbs/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1109434&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=15
Daisuke Jigen's Gravestone probably is the closest anime that exists to the original Monkey Punch Lupin, though, barring perhaps Mystery of Mamo. It has plenty of humor despite maintaining a serious storyline throughout. Also, in regards to the way the characters are drawn and move, it has by far the most impressive facial expressions and body language of the entire franchise.
I would argue that the linked poster is cherry-picking to prove their point; the Fujiko Mine series has plenty of Monkey Punch-style silly artwork outside of the four or so serious episodes. The first episode alone is closer to the original manga than practically anything from the Miyazaki/Takahata-headed period onward IMO. That said, they are correct that the original manga was never as straight-faced borderline depressing as the more recent anime adaptations... but from what I've read, it was just as disturbing. To be honest, the Lupin manga is not particularly pleasant, and outside of the artwork itself, not that funny, either.
The way I see it:
Traditional Lupin
Art style closer to original work
Writing fairly different from original work
Reboot(?) Lupin
Writing closer to original work
Art style fairly different from original work
Eh, I won't pretend to have an informed opinion of Lupin. I've only seen glimpses of the manga and I liked the expressive off-model drawings a lot. I thought Fujiko's animation was really stiff for the most part, not that it didn't have its moments though and I really liked episode 1.
I guess what I'd like is a bit more of a satirical bent, not just the occasional visual gag in a mostly serious story. Koike seemed to have the same ideas early on, just look at these MP-inspired drawings:
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Quote from: goody2shoes on December 10, 2014, 06:57:14 PM
Eh, I won't pretend to have an informed opinion of Lupin. I've only seen glimpses of the manga and I liked the expressive off-model drawings a lot. I thought Fujiko's animation was really stiff for the most part, not that it didn't have its moments though and I really liked episode 1.
Ah, okay. :) The manga's art is very unique and likable for sure. Unfortunately, Lupin almost always has pretty stiff animation outside of the first two theatrical films and Gravestone. I just really love Koike's character designs from Fujiko, and there were at least a few particularly well-animated moments in each episode, so I found it to be technically fantastic, though I can see why you (and others) might not agree. Glad to hear you really liked the first episode; truth told, I would have preferred the entire series to be more like that one, but the storyline and underlying message grew on me a lot, so I ended up finding the whole thing to be a rewarding experience. I know I'm in the minority amongst Lupin fans on this, but I'm a big fan of all three versions of the series (Monkey Punch manga, traditional anime, and modernized anime).
Quote(https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/22503415/pics/lupinvis.jpg)
THAT IS GODLIKE. I WANT AN ANIME THAT LOOKS LIKE THAT. :zonk:
I've read pieces of the original Lupin manga.
Don't really like it. The anime series are far more enjoyable as a whole.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on December 11, 2014, 01:47:58 PM
I've read pieces of the original Lupin manga.
Don't really like it. The anime series are far more enjoyable as a whole.
It's easily the weakest take on the character and universe, but it can be fairly enjoyable when it isn't overly skeezy.
Late on this, but great write-up Foggle! I enjoyed Jigen's Gravestone quite a bit myself, and it has gotten me even more excited for the new series than I already was (especially with that reveal at the end), which is saying something considering how pumped for it I've been. I also agree all those scenes with Fujiko were rather uncomfortable and unnecessary would hope such stuff won't show up in the new series. One thing I disagree with is that this is closer to the original manga tone-wise, because it felt much more serious than a Monkey Punch story would be, but in terms of aesthetics and the kind of story it was, I could see it have been something Monkey Punch would have come up with, though the ending the would probably have been a more ironic/comedic payoff.
On that subject, I can't say I agree with you guys that the manga is the weakest take on the characters and universe, myself. I'm not sure how much you guys have read of it, but I personally have read the entire first series and most of the World's Most Wanted volumes that were released in english, and I like 'em a lot. I think it's great 1960's MAD magazine-esque inspired humor interspersed with a interesting satirical stories, outlandish stories, and a few weird sort of dark and surreal stories - whatever it seemed Monkey Punch felt like drawing that particular week/month/however often it was serialized. While not always hilarious, there's always this energy and flow to it that makes it fun to read for me. While some parts might be unpleasant in some way, I wouldn't say it's ever all that serious. In fact, I don't think anything about or in the manga is ever really meant to be taken seriously. Even the "serious" stories usually end in a way that's more supposed to come off as a comedic payoff, or at least some kind of dark humor. I do agree, though, that I was never much for the skeezy parts, but I never felt they were too prevalent or overly offensive either, at least not to the extent they turned me off reading a story and putting the manga down. While I do like some of the anime adaptions more on the whole (mostly the Red Jacket series and TWCFM), the manga still ranks among my favorites, and I think there's a lot of good in it that you don't see many people give it credit for either because 1. the anime versions are more to most people's tastes or 2. no one has read it because it's out of print and some volumes are hard to find and extremely pricey to buy, which I think is a real shame.
To clarify, saying that Gravestone was close in tone to the Monkey Punch manga was bad wording on my part. I think it captured his style of character interactions and the darker/more bizarre aspects of the series particularly well, but yeah, it wasn't quite silly enough to be super reminiscent of the original work. Still, I think it's the closest film adaptation out there besides Mystery of Mamo.
I don't think the manga is bad by any means, and I probably need to read more of it before I can say definitively, but I think Lupin III just loses a lot of its appeal for me without the voice acting and music.
That's understandable. Like I said, I do prefer the best Lupin anime media to the manga, and much of their appeal to me are in it's excellent voice acting and music. That said, though the manga lacks those things, I still find it highly entertaining in it's own right.
Discotek has licensed Jigen's Gravestone. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2014-12-21/discotek-adds-lupin-iii-jigen-gravestone-yowapeda-go-nagai-world-toei-little-mermaid-iria/.82486) They will be giving it an english dub as well.
Huh. I thought FUNi would get it. Well, hopefully Discotek will still give it a good dub.
So, the spring season has started and we still haven't heard anything about when the new Lupin anime will air. Today I found this post by a Lupin tumblr (http://lupincentral.tumblr.com/post/116232940368/do-you-know-if-when-lupin-iii-2015-will-start) that claims that the series is well in production and should still come out this season, either late this month or early May, but a release date just hasn't been set yet. Apparently there has been regular updates coming out about the series that's been made known in Japan, (http://lupincentral.ghost.io/blue_jacket_screens/) and there was a panel for it at Anime Japan that showed off new visuals and teasers (http://lupincentral.ghost.io/new-lupin-series-on-show-floor-at-anime-japan-2015/), but it seems most anime news sites on our side just haven't been making note of any of this, for some reason. Here are some production pics, screenshots, and links I found on their tumblr:
Animation Clip (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiR2XIhJoUE)
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:'( I have so much catching up to do. Lupin is going to kill all my free time.
You don't need to catch up to Lupin. :??:
I meant with other anime series. I said something similar to CX before so he knew what I meant.
Anyway, I love that art! :swoon:
The anime is now slated for a Fall release. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-04-20/new-lupin-iii-anime-to-premiere-this-fall-with-original-composer/.87315) Yuji Ohno has also been confirmed to return as the series composer.
I..I :shakeshakeshake:ok, now my patience is gone. I want this now!
NEW PV! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6pky53HwFE) :shakeshakeshake:
I am so hyped right now. This show cannot come out soon enough! :swoon:
MY HYPE
Please wonderful Italian ladies/gentlemen, please give us English subtitles in May. Amen.
I am interested.
:shakeshakeshake:....does anyone else not like how Goemon and Fujiko looks? :humhumhum:
Jigen's Gravestone is now streaming on Hulu. (http://www.hulu.com/watch/783085)
The Blue Jacket anime has been confirmed to be 26 episodes. (http://lupincentral.tumblr.com/post/122116137888/more-details-on-upcoming-lupin-series-italian)
The show will premiere in Italy on August 29th. (http://lupincentral.tumblr.com/post/123922390778/lupincentral-rumour-italian-international)
The Italian version of the opening has been leaked. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=at2j1BWrRrM)
I'm hoping the song in the JP version is different. The animation for the series looks AMAZING though.
Quote from: Cartoon X on July 19, 2015, 01:56:20 PM
I'm hoping the song in the JP version is different.
It probably will be. I've seen some Italian Lupin fans saying that they always change the OP for their domestic releases. :)
Going to try not to watch the opening so I don't sully my first impression with the wrong song!
I was planning on not watching it due to wanting to go in completely blind. It's hard waiting for this show to come out though.
gunswordfist: Remember Sully when I promised to I could wait long for this?
Sully: Yeah, you did!
gunswordfist: I lied.
Whoa, less than one week until the Italy premiere..And I was just thinking, "Why isn't this out yet?" from looking at the same tumblr that reminded me this.
New trailer! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GpGcxpOsIBo) It confirms that the japanese premiere date will be October 1st.
Thanks for the info because I'm going in mostly blind now so no trailer for me. :kabapu:
October can't come soon enough (or Saturday if someone subs the Italian dub). ;D
Or is I master the Italian language by then!
Saw the first ep. It was great fun! Felt pretty much like a classic episode of the Red Jacket series, just with the updated character designs and the art style of TWCFM, and better animation. Rebecca seems like a fun addition as a recurring character, and it seems like there'll be a story arc of some sort to this season, which is pretty intriguing. Overall, though, this new series just promises to be classic Lupin goodness, which is just what I was hoping for, so I'm pretty stoked.
Yeah, it was a pretty solid start. It looks like Blue Jacket is going to be a lot of fun. ;D
Italy One will be airing 4 new episodes of Blue Jacket every Sunday (http://lupincentral.ghost.io/episodes-5-6-7-8-of-blue-jacket-to-air-this-sunday-on-italy-one/) and it's airing with both the Japanese and Italian dubs (http://lupincentral.ghost.io/japanese-dub-for-blue-jacket-series-also-airing-in-italy/).
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Italy One will be airing 4 new episodes of Blue Jacket every Sunday (http://lupincentral.ghost.io/episodes-5-6-7-8-of-blue-jacket-to-air-this-sunday-on-italy-one/) and it's airing with both the Japanese and Italian dubs (http://lupincentral.ghost.io/japanese-dub-for-blue-jacket-series-also-airing-in-italy/).
Don't want to watch the Italian dub, so this is amazing news. C'mon, fansubbers...!
It's just too bad that their japanese language broadcast doesn't come with the japanese OP/ED too. :-X
The Italian dub itself ain't too shabby, though. Voice-wise, the only one I wasn't big on was Fujiko's, which sounded much too deep. The rest were pretty spot-on.
How many of you already knew all of this?
https://youtu.be/GWrvYVuhj_U
I actually never knew that Steven Spielberg was a fan of Castle of Cagliostro, or that Inspector Gadget basically owes its very existence to Lupin III.
The VHS version of the movie I owned had a quote from Spielberg on the cover. Which is apt, because Cagliostro is exactly the type of movie he could have made but didn't.
Well, at least he did finally get to make a great animated adventure movie like he always wanted to, a few years ago.
It may not be Lupin, but it "sort of" has some elements of a heist movie in it.
I knew about Inspector Gadget but I had no clue Spielberg even knew what Lupin was.
The Japanese opening for the series has been released. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvaosZlQqrY)
Good rendition. I'm relieved that we don't have a bad pop song like the italian version, but the classic Lupin theme and a stylish opening highlighting the iconic characters. That's how it should be.
Part IV is getting an english dub with the Red Jacket dub cast!!! (http://lupincentral.ghost.io/epcar-and-oliver-return-for-new-blue-jacket-english-dub/) :shakeshakeshake:
Is this Discotek's doing? If so, they're on fucking point. Just too bad they couldn't get this cast for Gravestone.
Considering that Discotek hasn't mentioned anything about acquiring Part IV yet, I think this might be being produced by TMS themselves (though, I'm sure Discotek will pick up the home media rights). Regardless, whoever is responsible made a great decision by having Epcar direct and bringing the old cast back together.
That's great! I'm so happy TMS is willing to support Lupin overseas. :)
The Jigen's Gravestone staff is working on a new Lupin III film that is centered around Goemon. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-09-09/lupin-iii-gets-new-theatrical-anime-centering-on-goemon-on-february-4/.106279)
It sounds like the Lupin Part IV dub might be coming out next month. (https://twitter.com/RichardEpcar/status/788924224761057280)
Discotek has officially licensed Lupin III Part IV and will be releasing it on home video next year. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-11-01/discotek-licenses-lupin-iii-part-iv-for-2017-release-with-english-dub/.108332)
Discotek also released a trailer for the dub that Richard Epcar and co. have been working on and it sounds great! :)
Between this and Part 2 being put out this is one heck of a great time to be a Lupin fan in the U.S. ;D
Discotek's Brady Hartel confirmed on the ANNCast that the Part IV dub was produced directly by TMS just like the Jigen's Gravestone dub. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/anncast/2016-11-04/.108467)
I'm happy that TMS is continuing to support the Lupin franchise overseas. :)
R.I.P. Monkey Punch (https://twitter.com/bolt7/status/1118200717964120065)
The English dubs for both Goemon's Spray of Blood & Fujiko's Lie will be premiering at Anime Expo as a double feature! (https://twitter.com/WTK/status/1143346908066394122)
Now THIS is something I will definitely go to! :shakeshakeshake:
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ewzcj38UYAAVWfi.jpg)
Is it a movie? A special? Part VI?
I'm down, regardless.
I will cry so many tears of happiness if it's Part 6. God I love Lupin.
I would really love a Part VI, yeah. Part V was a particular improvement over IV, so I'm hoping for the best.
Part 6 announced! (https://twitter.com/SugoiLITE/status/1396741141345669120)
Sentai Filmworks has licensed Part 6 (https://www.sentaifilmworks.com/a/news/sentai-nabs-lupin-the-3rd-part-6-anime-series)