Fighting Games

Started by Rosalinas Spare Wand, July 06, 2011, 11:54:38 PM

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gunswordfist

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Dammit, talking about DOA would be my 8000th comment. :srs:
"Ryu is like the Hank Hill of Street Fighter." -BB_Hoody


Dr. Ensatsu-ken

It's not pointless when it's integrated into the actual combat by giving out a damage boost, and is under player control and has to be earned. That's called a gameplay mechanic.

I don't believe that Itagaki is capable of creating any pointless gameplay features, now that I think about it. :thinkin:

gunswordfist

Well I hate it.

I bet you have a Itagaki shrine in your closet.
"Ryu is like the Hank Hill of Street Fighter." -BB_Hoody


Dr. Ensatsu-ken

Have fun bitching about the SF stages that nobody else cares about, then. I can assure you that Capcom will ignore you equally as much as they did with SFIV, just as well as how they ignore the tens of thousands of Mega Man fans that they love to pretend don't exist. :>

Quote from: gunswordfist on April 03, 2015, 02:19:03 PM
Dammit, talking about DOA would be my 8000th comment. :srs:

Relevant:

Dr. Ensatsu-ken

Quote from: gunswordfist on April 03, 2015, 02:29:01 PMI bet you have a Itagaki shrine in your closet.

Of course not....my Itagaki shrine is way too big to fit in a closet.

gunswordfist

 :D :D :D

And tell me something I don't know...but I'm still going to hope SF V changes things :unimpressed: . I don't want any more Willy Wonka stages.

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 03, 2015, 02:37:32 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 03, 2015, 02:29:01 PMI bet you have a Itagaki shrine in your closet.

Of course not....my Itagaki shrine is way too big to fit in a closet.
:unimpressed:
"Ryu is like the Hank Hill of Street Fighter." -BB_Hoody


Foggle

Team Ninja Dog strikes again.



Do note that there's also a third DLC pack worth $65 not visible in that screenshot.

Dr. Ensatsu-ken

So....costume DLC is worth more than the actual game itself?

And we somehow have a STEAM release of a DOA game, but still nothing for Ninja Gaiden? WTF are you guys smoking, KT?

I miss the days of NG/B, where both DLC packs were free, and in NGB's case it contained alternate costumes as unlockables, as well as a substantial Mission Mode and Master Ninja mode all on the disc....for a single price, rather than somehow being forced to pay multiple times for it.

Foggle

DOA is literally just a fanservice semi-porn game at this point, I think. Charging that much for sexy costumes is unprecedented.

Also, Ninja Gaiden on PC would be lovely, but you just know they'd be half-assed ports of the Sigma versions. Or they'd skip the first two entirely for NG3 and Yaiba.

EDIT: OH GOD YAIBA ALREADY IS ON STEAM

Dr. Ensatsu-ken

I can imagine how PC-only gamers have heard how great the NG series was, and were exposed to games like DMC4 and MGRR as some of the few good hack n' slash games to receive equally good PC ports. If Yaiba was their first (and presumably only) NG game that they tried, then they'll probably just assume that the NG fan-base is nuts.

Foggle

Thankfully, I think the only people who even know Yaiba exists were Ninja Gaiden fans to begin with. But that game is still unforgivable...

Dr. Ensatsu-ken

What's especially disappointing to me about Yaiba is that Inafune attached his name to it without having anything to do with making the actual game. He just co-produced it, but my problem is that this whole game was HIS idea in the first place. He came to Team Ninja to propose it, and from the father of Mega Man, it just seems so half-assed, even in concept (I refuse to go with the obvious pun, here). ;)

If you watch or read any interviews, all he says is that he thought it would be "cool to have a game where a ninja fights zombies" because zombies "are really popular" right now. That's it. Nothing about how it fits in with the NG series or why it's a good idea. He literally just made it clear that he wanted to make a game that featured what was hip in gaming at the time, and both himself and Team Ninja agreed to outsource it to a third-rate (and very cheap to afford) developer in Spark Unlimited, figuring that they could milk out what was left of NG's good name and combine it with a popular trend without adding any substance to it in order to make a quick buck. That's the reason that this game was made, and Inafune really didn't even say anything to hide that fact.

Now, compare this to what Itagaki repeatedly said in interviews when he was developing NG for the XBOX, and then again when asked about what his goals were and why he wanted to make NG2 a few years later. In both cases, his answer was firmly stated as: "I want to make the best action game ever," and speicifically with NG2, he said "I want to make this the best game ever, but if I were to be more modest, then I'd say that I'm at least aiming for making the best action game of all time."

Even with the DS spin-off, he passionately claimed that not only did he want to make a game that his kids could play, but that he also wanted to bring in an excellent and unique action game to the DS market. The point being that, in all of these cases, you could tell how much he believed in his products and how much time, care, and effort he was spending on getting each of them (sans NG2 which he was unfortunately forced to rush) just right.

Now compare that back to what Inafune said about Yaiba, and it's easy to see why that game was doomed from the start.

talonmalon333

What do you guys think of the Mortal Kombat series?

gunswordfist

I love 2 and Mortal Kombat. 1 and 3 are alright. I liked 4 when it was out but I'm sure it has aged horribly. This part hasn't though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=85B-L5O3wU0
"Ryu is like the Hank Hill of Street Fighter." -BB_Hoody


Spark Of Spirit

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