Whenever I see people argue whether South Park or Family Guy is better, I start to think that they're wasting their time by not watching this.
Boondocks does whatever both shows try to do much better than either of them can and is fucking excellent. Discuss.
The Boondocks is a great show, but what prevents me from calling it better than Family Guy is the time it takes to make a season. I know CN is shit poor and apparently can't afford to have a season of the Boondocks within a year, but it's really annoying to have to wait for two years to see new episodes, especially when topics to talk about are happening right now. I would have loved to see commentary about Michael Jackson's death, but if it were made next season it would feel incredibly dated. Nevertheless it's a great show if not the best programming on AS.
Quote from: Avaitor on December 30, 2010, 03:14:01 PM
Whenever I see people argue whether South Park or Family Guy is better, I start to think that they're wasting their time by not watching this.
Boondocks does whatever both shows try to do much better than either of them can and is fucking excellent. Discuss.
I've seen The Boondocks, and I'm going to have to respectfully say no (in regards to really being any better than South Park). I think you just don't get the appeal of South Park.
But, for what its worth I like The Boondocks about as much, but for somewhat different reasons.
Family Guy is trash, though. Don't ever compare to to SP.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on December 30, 2010, 09:12:10 PM
Family Guy is trash, though. Don't ever compare to to SP.
You do it all the time.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on December 30, 2010, 09:12:10 PM
I think you just don't get the appeal of South Park.
What's the appeal of South Park then? What makes it so unbe-fucking-leavably great that we can't possibly understand the appeal of South Park?
I mean, I used to love it too, but seriously, ever since around season nine the show has gone to absolute shit, and I can't even watch new episodes of the show anymore, Trey and Matt's smarmy-ness and their goddamned obsession of following and making fun of celebrities like a cartoon version of TMZ gets really annoying really fast.
It took me a while to realize it, but now that I do I agree quite a bit with DarthGonzo about how much South Park sucks these days.
I've only seen a couple episodes of The Boondocks. It's pretty funny. The comic strip it's based off of is fucking rancid, though. Anyone got any episode recommendations for me?
Btw, South Park is way better than Family Guy simply because the jokes actually correlate to the characters and the plot of the episode. Nearly every joke in FG or The Cleveland Show has absolutely nothing to do with the episode at hand. American Dad is a lot better about that kind of thing, though. Seems like Seth actually tries every once and a while with that one.
Quote from: Foggle on December 30, 2010, 10:10:36 PM
Btw, South Park is way better than Family Guy simply because the jokes actually correlate to the characters and the plot of the episode. Nearly every joke in FG or The Cleveland Show has absolutely nothing to do with the episode at hand.
So in other words your parroting exactly what Cartman said in
Cartoon Wars. Not a good argument.
Quote from: SNES Chalmers on December 30, 2010, 09:39:02 PM
What's the appeal of South Park then? What makes it so unbe-fucking-leavably great that we can't possibly understand the appeal of South Park?
First of all, chill the fuck out. I never aimed that post at you in the first place, so what's problem?
QuoteI mean, I used to love it too, but seriously, ever since around season nine the show has gone to absolute shit, and I can't even watch new episodes of the show anymore, Trey and Matt's smarmy-ness and their goddamned obsession of following and making fun of celebrities like a cartoon version of TMZ gets really annoying really fast.
First off that's your opinion. Personally, I think you're probably being too smarmy for your own good and looking too much into the show. Its not complete shit. It has shitty episodes every now and then (so do a lot of shows) but it still has funny episodes. Honestly, what exactly is it that's so different about the show that makes it shit now? Its still the same as its always been, for the most part. Not every episode makes fun of celbrities, and the ones that do aren't even poorly written.
QuoteIt took me a while to realize it, but now that I do I agree quite a bit with DarthGonzo about how much South Park sucks these days.
Once again, your opinion, but first off, I wasn't insulting anyone by saying that I don't think Avaitor completely gets the appeal of South Park. I said that because I don't really think it should be compared to Family Guy, as its humor is completely different, and for that matter its not even the same type of humor as The Boondocks.
If you want to act like a a super-intelligent superior know-it-all and overanalyze a show that's not even trying to be as analytical on celbrities or modern society as you make it out to be, then be my guest. Elighten me. Break it down for me since I'm clearly such an idiot for not analyzing the fuck out of South Park and saying that its complete shit. Forgive me for finding its appeal to be simpe fun humor mixed in with occasional celebrity or modern society comentary. Its really not as heavy on that stuff as you claim it is (IMO), but maybe I'm not so hell-bent on trying to notice those things.
Sorry if you think it sucks, and if that's your feeling on the show then fine, but there's no reason to be an ass-hole and try to act so condescending. Here's something that you should keep in mind, though, its fine to hate a show like South Park for the reasons that you mentioned (if you take time to consider, I personally like it for reasons that you probably hate it for, but I assume that you must feel that your opinion is the only right one, based on your post), but it doesn't do you much good to act like such a child about it.
As for Darth Gonzo, I never actually minded that he hates the new seasons of Sout hPark, despite the fact that its basically the same as it ever really was (so in that case why not just hate the show in general?), but you know what it is that pisses people off about him, which is what you're kind of doing now: Its that he never shuts up about it, insists on his opinion being fact or truth, and really annoys fans of the show just for simply having fun with it.
Seriously, if you want me to respond with some sort of defense of the show, I'd be happy to do so, but from what I can tell, you're just content with trying to make me look like an idiot for liking it. If that's all the point of your post was, then good for you, because I have no intentions of lowering myself to that level just to argue with you just because I find South Park to be a fun show to watch (most of the time, anyways), rather than something that people think of as a show that's "obsessed" with celebrities or whatever. And even if it is, I at least find it to still be consistently funny. Apparently that makes me an idiot who likes a sucky show, as well. If that's the case, then so be it.
Good day to you, sir.
Quote from: SSJ Jake on December 30, 2010, 10:13:34 PM
Quote from: Foggle on December 30, 2010, 10:10:36 PM
Btw, South Park is way better than Family Guy simply because the jokes actually correlate to the characters and the plot of the episode.
So in other words your parroting exactly what Cartman said in Cartoon Wars. Not a good argument.
Dawg, watch any given five episodes of Family Guy. Then watch any given five episodes of South Park (or Futurama or The Boondocks or The Simpsons or King Of The Hill or American Dad). Compare the two. It's not parroting if I know from my own personal viewing experience that it's true. Family Guy is basically a drawn version of Robot Chicken these days.
I know that, but how does that make South Park better? You're saying South Park is a better show because FG's jokes have nothing to do with the plot. Anyone who watches FG knows that. I've known that before SP even pointed it out. However I don't see how it makes SP the superior show just because the jokes correlate with the plot of the episode.
Quote from: Foggle on December 30, 2010, 10:10:36 PM
I've only seen a couple episodes of The Boondocks. It's pretty funny. The comic strip it's based off of is fucking rancid, though. Anyone got any episode recommendations for me?
I feel bad for bringing up South Park and Family Guy in the same sentence again so I'm going to avoid talking about the two for now, but I'll reply to you.
Some key episodes from season 1 include
"Guess Hoe's Coming to Dinner"- A Pimp Named Slickback. Say no more.
"A Date With a Health Inspector"- Classic Tom, plus the introduction of Gin Rummy, played by none other than Sam Jackson. There's even some epic Pulp Fiction references in there.
"Return of the King"- How many other shows can get MLK to come out and say that BET is the worst thing he's ever seen?
"Let's Nab Oprah"- More Ed and Rummy comedy gold, plus some great Enter the Dragon callbacks.
"The Passion of Ruckus"- I went into great detail on the old board about this one, but let me just say that it's class.
I'll come back to seasons 2 and 3 later.
Quote from: SSJ Jake on December 30, 2010, 10:22:38 PM
I know that, but how does that make South Park better? You're saying South Park is a better show because FG's jokes have nothing to do with the plot. Anyone who watches FG knows that. I've knew that before SP even pointed it out. However I don't see how it makes SP the superior show just because the jokes correlate with the plot of the episode.
I think that makes it better in regards to the quality of writing, which is what I thought this thread was focusing on in regards to The Boondocks being better than both other shows. The art and animation are far better in Family Guy than South Park, of course. The voice cast is more diverse, as well. Whether it's actually funnier or less funny is attributed to personal opinion. However, I think that a show about a certain set of characters is better written if the writing actually has to do with those characters, but that's just me. The first few seasons of Family Guy also fall into the category of what I consider "good" or at least "decent writing," because the jokes were actually about the characters, if that makes sense.
I'm not trying to start a flame war or anything. :-\
Yeah, sorry for it becoming such a big deal. I didn't expect it'd turn out a whole post bashing the show just because I mentioned that I like Boondocks about as much as it, but that I don't really think its better than SP. Perhaps I'm just the naive idiot here?
Anyways, I won't bother wasting my time discussing it over here, anymore.
Anyways, I enjoy The Boondocks for its clever humor, and also its characters. There are some characters that will never grow on me, such as Riley, but the best of its characters are always entertaining, and the writing is solid to the point that this is the kind of show that has intelligent humor as well as plots that one could actually sort of analyze, but I simply enjoy it because it manages to skillfully incorporate good humor with good plots.
Quote from: Avaitor on December 30, 2010, 10:23:34 PM
Quote from: Foggle on December 30, 2010, 10:10:36 PM
I've only seen a couple episodes of The Boondocks. It's pretty funny. The comic strip it's based off of is fucking rancid, though. Anyone got any episode recommendations for me?
I feel bad for bringing up South Park and Family Guy in the same sentence again so I'm going to avoid talking about the two for now, but I'll reply to you.
Some key episodes from season 1 include
"Guess Hoe's Coming to Dinner"- A Pimp Named Slickback. Say no more.
"A Date With a Health Inspector"- Classic Tom, plus the introduction of Gin Rummy, played by none other than Sam Jackson. There's even some epic Pulp Fiction references in there.
"Return of the King"- How many other shows can get MLK to come out and say that BET is the worst thing he's ever seen?
"Let's Nab Oprah"- More Ed and Rummy comedy gold, plus some great Enter the Dragon callbacks.
"The Passion of Ruckus"- I went into great detail on the old board about this one, but let me just say that it's class.
I'll come back to seasons 2 and 3 later.
Thanks for the suggestions! The first one you listed is one of the few episodes I've seen! ;D
Quote from: Foggle on December 30, 2010, 10:29:09 PM
I'm not trying to start a flame war or anything. :-\
And neither am I. To each his own.
Anyway yeah Boondocks has brilliant writing and great commentary, but the two year delay between seasons is a turn off for me.
I do have to agree that the long gap between seasons is a killer. I know it's partly because they like to get the animation done as perfectly as possible, so they take a while to get everything done.
I also know that Aaron McGruder doesn't really like the animation process all that much, which can probably also relate to the delays, and why another season is up in the air. I was very satisfied with the season 3 finale though, so I don't mind if they end it now.
I always tend to look at things in the more positive light, in that I feel that its better to have fewer high-quality seasons that take a long time of waiting to come out, rather than having the seasons churned out at a faster pace, only to have them drop in quality and not be as good as they really could. I'm content with the first 3 seasons right now, because they are really well-done.
Okay, let me look to the season 14 episode list on Wikipedia:
Sexual Healing: Oh boy, an episode parodying Tiger Woods' scandal. I don't give a shit about Tiger or his personal life, so why should I give a shit about this episode?
The Tale of Scrotie McBoogerballs: Eh, it was all right, kind of taking on Catcher in the Rye. Not a fan of Butters, and some of the material was rather juvenile, but I won't say it was unwatchable.
Medicinal Fried Chicken: Don't remember much about it, although the oversized scrotums seemed to take the spotlight of the episode. No real criticism on this episode.
You Have 0 Friends: I actually enjoyed this episode, although the aspect of making fun of Facebook is bound to be dated in a few years.
200/201: Liked them, haven't seen them since last spring. I do think some of the controversy surrounding these was way over-blown, but that really shouldn't affect my judgement on the actual episodes, so no further criticisms.
Crippled Summer: Didn't see this one, but I heard some of the Looney Tunes references were funny.
Poor and Stupid: Oh joy, a parody of Nascar, something I don't care whatsoever about? Like the Tiger episode, why should I watch?
It's a Jersey Thing: Same as the Tiger and Nascar ones, except with some shitty MTV show that I could care less about.
Insheepsion: This one seemed promising, until news broke out that this was just a rip-off of some viral video, instead of Matt and Trey actually going to see the movie they were ripping on. I mean, it's not like this wasn't the biggest movie of 2010 or anything. Pass.
The Coon trilogy: Seems promising, but like the rest of the latter half of the season, I didn't watch any of the episodes. From what I've read on TZ's talkbacks, there are a few surprises revealed, so it may be worth a watch.
Creme Fraiche: I like Food Network and I watch it from time to time, but again, why? Why do we need an entire episode making fun of The Food Network, along with jokes about the Shake-Weight?
All in all, there's a few episodes that were or seemed good, but why watch an entire episode making fun of things I have absolutely no interest in? At least when Family Guy feels the need to make fun of Christina Aguilara or Britney Spears it's some stupid joke that lasts 30 seconds and doesn't affect the overall episode. I don't give a shit about Tiger Woods and his marriage/affair, I don't give a shit about Nascar, I don't give a shit about Jersey Shore. And that's what I mean by calling the show kind of a cartoon version of TMZ.
And I know that your first comment wasn't directed at me, but the air of the post was humorous to me. It seemed like you were putting South Park on some sort of pedestal, like no show could equal or better it, like you almost took offense to DLA saying The Boondocks was better than it(and I've seen posts like that from you in the past, but that's something else). I personally am not a fan of Boondocks, mainly because I haven't yet been able to get into it, but I'd be willing to take some one's word that it might be better than present day South Park, because it really hasn't done good these last few years.
And I'm pretty much done with this if you are, but I couldn't let a chance to re-butt and even explain myself further pass me by.
Good for you, Chalmers, but I'm not interested in derailing this topic.
I will say this much: If you think I'm putting South Park up on some divine pedestal and you think you have seen me do this before, I think that you're overreacting. I don't praise South Park anymore than you praise The Simpsons or Tiny Toons.
I like the show for what it is. You broke down an entire season based on how you view it, and claimed that it doesn't interest "you" at all, or that its stupid to "you" (hmmmm....do I spot a pattern, here?). I myself could do the same for a season of a show that I didn't like, but in the end it'd just be my opinion. You see, you expressed your opinion here and I'm completely fine with that. What I'm not fine with is being treated with absoluely zero respect and being talked down to just because I stated my opinion. And in the case of Family Guy, you may only have to deal with a new topic of humor for only 30 seconds or less at a time, but forgive me if I actually don't find about 29 of the 30 or so different jokes it covers for a single episode to be funny to begin with. That's just me.
Also, just a quick question: If you don't even like The Boondocks as you say, then what was the point of going out of your way to go to this thread to type of a 2-paragraph long reply to one thing I mentioned about 2 shows that you don't even like? I myself find that kind of humorous of you. Ever heard of just letting something go?
Anyways, back to The Boondocks:
Does anyone have any particular favorite characters for this show?
So is that it? No more of this "SP vs FG" bullshit?
...
Good.
Personally, both shows are showing signs of decay to the point of being unwatchable, IMO. But that's just me.
And yeah, the wait for the Boondocks seasons was awful. I know great things aren't done in haste, but is it really too much to expect more than a season every two years?
I don't know. As much as I enjoy this show, I feel like I'm the only one who actually doesn't mind waiting that long for a new season. I mean, I suppose you could say that each new season is just enough episodes for me to be satisfied before I get burned out, and then when the new one finally rolls around, I'm all psyched to see some new episodes. To me that's actually the perfect balance, but I know I'm really the only one who feels that way.
I wouldn't mind the wait as much if we got more than 15 episodes per season. Even a few more, like if they jumped the seasons up to 20 episodes, would make the wait feel a little better.
But whatever. I get a lot of plays out of the episodes anyway.
So, yeah, about my characters question: does anyone have any favorites?
To be honest, I myself am not too sure. I need to think about it a little more before replying with my actual favorite.
Ruckus is always worth a laugh, but Ed and Rummy are close as well. Ed Wuncler Sr. as well, if only because Ed Asner is the fucking man.
My favorite characters in this show always range from different characters, though consistent favorites are always Robert "Grandpa" Freeman, Uncle Ruckus, Otis "Thugnificent" Jenkins, and both of the Wunclers. They're always funny to me, and I like how much of an interaction they have with one another.
Family Guy sucks, but its my favorite show because I have nothing better to do with my life than to watch lame pop-culture references back-to-back. I am trying to get Season 2 from my library...again.
Quote from: Avaitor on December 30, 2010, 10:23:34 PM
Quote from: Foggle on December 30, 2010, 10:10:36 PM
I've only seen a couple episodes of The Boondocks. It's pretty funny. The comic strip it's based off of is fucking rancid, though. Anyone got any episode recommendations for me?
I feel bad for bringing up South Park and Family Guy in the same sentence again so I'm going to avoid talking about the two for now, but I'll reply to you.
Some key episodes from season 1 include
"Guess Hoe's Coming to Dinner"- A Pimp Named Slickback. Say no more.
"A Date With a Health Inspector"- Classic Tom, plus the introduction of Gin Rummy, played by none other than Sam Jackson. There's even some epic Pulp Fiction references in there."Return of the King"- How many other shows can get MLK to come out and say that BET is the worst thing he's ever seen?
"Let's Nab Oprah"- More Ed and Rummy comedy gold, plus some great Enter the Dragon callbacks.
"The Passion of Ruckus"- I went into great detail on the old board about this one, but let me just say that it's class.
I'll come back to seasons 2 and 3 later.
Greatest episode of the entire series and funny enough, the very first episode I've seen of the show. I laughed so freaking hard and you gotta love Gin Rummy. Oh and I recommend The Red Ball and whatever the Tyler Perry episode from season 3 was called. Oh and the first episode of season 2
Hey EK, why don't you go burn in hell for loving South Park so much?
My favorite characters are Riley Ed the Third, Gin Rummy, Grandpa and Uncle Ruckus.
Way to triple post, man.
Quote from: gunswordfist on January 12, 2011, 03:08:00 PM
Hey EK, why don't you go burn in hell for loving South Park so much?
I never knew you were such a devout Christian, GSF.
Either that or you're even worse at making comebacks than Talon. I suppose this is the only way that you could possibly deal with it, though, you poor retarded dumb-shit.
Quote from: Avaitor on January 12, 2011, 03:09:49 PM
Way to triple post, man.
The last time I checked, a little bitch with a pussy is not a man. :sly:
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on January 12, 2011, 03:10:29 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on January 12, 2011, 03:08:00 PM
Hey EK, why don't you go burn in hell for loving South Park so much?
I never knew you were such a devout Christian, GSF.Either that or you're even worse at making comebacks than Talon. I suppose this is the only way that you could possibly deal with it, though, you poor retarded dumb-shit.
Quote from: Avaitor on January 12, 2011, 03:09:49 PM
Way to triple post, man.
The last time I checked, a little bitch with a pussy is not a man. :sly:
:D I declare myself owned.
*looks at watch* And much earlier than usual!
:D So what's everyone's favorite season?
Season 1>Season 3>Season 2
Season 3 had a good start, a couple of weak episodes after that, but was pure gold before the end. Season 1 is still the one I come back to the most, though. Season 2 is just too hit or miss for me.
I think it's Season 2>Season 1>Season 3 for me. I did miss a lot of season 2's episodes but I loved what I saw. Season 3 started strong but near the end it got kind of weak. Season 1 is pretty solid overall but doesn't have the amazingly great episodes of season 2 or even 3. Well except Date With a Health Inspector of course.
The last couple of season 3 episodes were amazing. The finale, Ruckus's family, the fried chicken virus, what's not to love?
The finale wasn't really the finale. They changed the episode order. I thought it was a pretty lackluster episode. The Ruckus episode was good. I got to admit that I kind of half watched the chicken virus episode.
Season 4 has just been confirmed by John Witherspoon. 20 episodes this time, instead of 15 like before.
Who knows when it'll air, but I'm excited. I thought the last two episodes could have gone either way, as a series finale or precursor to the next season, and I would have been fine with either call. Now I know that there's at least another season of the show to look forward to.
Oh, and I've been rewatcing season 3 thanks to [as]'s airings of it on Saturday nights. It still holds up pretty well from last year. I didn't catch all the episodes from then, so I'm loving what I missed but also enjoying what I've already seen.
Bang bang bang. Now every other show I want to see get another season better do so.
Bang bang bang. Now every other show I want to see get another season better do so.
Heard about this when it was announced, gotta say that I'm stoked for this season. Hell, even my parents. They started watching Boondocks back in December and have enjoyed it ever since then. When I told them the news they were happy heh. But yeah, really excited to hear the news. My favorite episodes from season 3 were "The Red Ball" and "The Fundraiser".
I don't really watch The Boondocks all that much to be honest. I guess I don't find it all that appealing.
That said, there are certain episodes I've seen that I find to be really, really good. The Christmas episode, for example, where Huey puts on "The Adventures of Black Jesus". I thought that episode was fantastic. Same with the one with the "what-if" story if Martin Luther King Jr. was still alive today and the one where Riley gets art lessons.
So I guess I don't know how to feel about The Boondocks.
I like some episodes, too. I thought the season 2 premiere was a fantastic episode with tons of character moments, but most of the show isn't like that, unfortunately.
I don't know, I guess it's when it tries to be "edgy" and go over the top that it loses me. I think the show works better when they keep it straightforward like the MLK "what-if" episode that had plenty of parody and satire but nothing too ridiculous to take you out of it.
Quote from: ToonFaithful on July 05, 2011, 03:51:12 PM
Heard about this when it was announced, gotta say that I'm stoked for this season. Hell, even my parents. They started watching Boondocks back in December and have enjoyed it ever since then. When I told them the news they were happy heh. But yeah, really excited to hear the news. My favorite episodes from season 3 were "The Red Ball" and "The Fundraiser".
Those are probably my two favorites as well. The Red Ball is definitely number 1 for me
I've been missing the show, so I decided to watch the 2 episodes from season 2 that [as] never aired, the BET episodes.
da faq
Yeah, they just happen to be the oddest episodes of the season, if not the series.
Nothing like seeing Cee Lo doing the Soulja Boy.
Season 4 premiere: April 21 at 10:30PM. (http://www.toonzone.net/forums/adult-swim-toonami-forum/311881-new-boondocks-eps-start-date.html)
Sweet!
Can't wait! New Boondocks, Regular Show and Korra are literally the only new episodes of cartoons I am looking forward to.
Boondocks is back. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jbC5onWnCKk&feature=youtu.be)
:swoon:
Quote from: Daikun on March 14, 2014, 03:48:24 PM
:swoon:
This! That'll make it 5 animated series that'll try to keep up with.
I just hope that if we get another season after this, it doesn't take as long for it to come out.
Good luck with that. They seem to try and clearly improve the animation each time thus we keep on getting 2 or so year gaps in between seasons.
Quote from: gunswordfist on March 14, 2014, 07:45:56 PMGood luck with that. They seem to try and clearly improve the animation each time thus we keep on getting 2 or so year gaps in between seasons.
It's been four years this time, though.
FOUR. YEARS. Even
The Venture Bros. didn't have that long of a gap.
I understand them wanting to improve their animation with each season, but this was too long of a wait this time.
If they get a season 5 greenlit, I really hope we're not forced to wait this long. Even if they do, though, it would be nice if they gave us an occasional yearly special to tide us over like
VB sometimes does.
From what I understand, McGruder REALLY hates the animation process, but he always says yes to another season anyway, because the show is how he makes money.
And [as] have pretty much the same policy for the show as HBO does with Larry David and Curb Your Enthusiasm- they wait for their schedule.
I was referring to the 2 year (is that right?) gaps in between the previous 3 seasons. I'm sure them saying the show was cancelled had something to do with why it took so long this time around.
Uh, speaking of McGruder. (http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/tv/showtracker/la-et-st-the-boondocks-adult-swim-aaron-mcgruder-20140321,0,2445622.story#ixzz2wdowrOvw)
Yep, I heard the news. If this ends up being like Spongebob post movie... :'(
New Trailer! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZpcfGOSFC8&list=UUhXpAIlDuW9TSlhEMrh_bxA)
Looks like there's going to be a Breaking Bad parody episode. Kinda late for that, but should be fun enough.
Still don't know what's up with Stinkmeaner being alive again, though. That episode should be interesting.
Meh, they did an Obama election episode in 2010. The Boondocks isn't one for being especially timely.
So who saw the premiere?
It's weird that they started off with an episode about Tom, of all people, especially one that's (an admittedly better) retread of the Usher episode from season 2, but I laughed. A lot.
Especially odd to start with this when the debt episode seemed to be the one they were showing the most commercials of.
Okay...so the season 4 dvd set is being released on June 24th, but from the description, it'll only have 10 episodes. (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00J5LXPPM?tag=tvshowsondvdcom&link_code=as3&creativeASIN=B00J5LXPPM&creative=373489&camp=211189) Now, normally I'd just suspect that [as] is just spliting the season into two...but there is a complete series set coming out the exact same day, and the back of the box says there are 55 episodes of the series. (http://www.amazon.com/Boondocks-Season-Set/dp/B00JSR5BJ6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_mov_1?ie=UTF8&refRID=0QG316AJNGFHGXERWJR1)
I thought this season was supposed to be 20 episodes long? Since when did it become ten? And a complete series set? So The Boondocks really is over for good? What the heck is going on here? ???
Yeah, some press releases have called this the last season, so I guess it probably is. The show still does well for them, but in the time it takes to make and air a season of the Boondocks, they can do 2 full seasons of Venture Brothers, which is no easy task itself, so I'm not surprised that they're calling it a day.
I am surprised at how short the season is, though.
The season might be short, but at least it's still good. I got quite a few laughs at the newest episode, and it was nice finally seeing Ed Wuncler II, who was absolutely hilarious. So, as long as this season ends the series on a high note, I won't complain about it ending, but I'm still flabbergasted as to where those other 10 promised episodes went.
Really? I didn't like this one at all. Ed II was a nice addition, but there were few good jokes there.
And apparently people really disliked the premiere as well, which I might be in the minority for liking.
I dunno, I liked it overall. There were parts of it that, admittedly, irritated me (the second half is a bit of a drag, and I do not care for the ending at all), but there wasn't really any point where I was too annoyed or irritated with the ep. Rather, it felt like an average episode of the show, which is fine in my book, so long as I'm entertained.
As for the premiere, I liked that a lot better, especially because it's a Tom episode, and even more especially because it was basically a far superior version of "Tom, Sarah, and Usher" from season 2 with much better social commentary and satire than that episode had.
So Robert Freeman is a civil rights person due to the fact that he boarded the wrong bus & Uncle Ruckus was actually behind the scenes of some of that shit? What a weird episode. I did like how the All-State guy was leader of the protest group.
On a side note, so much focus on Grandad this season. Right now, like 4 episodes out of the 5 that have aired focused on Grandad and the 6th one looks like it as well. I guess I can understand the first 3 of them, since they are about him trying to pay back Ed Wuncler II and failing to do so.
I enjoyed the hair episode and I can appreciate experimenting with story arcs with the owing money thing, but I'm sick of the Robert episodes. Sick to death of it. Focus on Huey or Riley or Thugnificent or even Jasmine or the blonde girl already, yeesh.
Quote from: Daxdiv on May 21, 2014, 01:29:50 AMSo Robert Freeman is a civil rights person due to the fact that he boarded the wrong bus & Uncle Ruckus was actually behind the scenes of some of that shit? What a weird episode.
That was actually established a few seasons ago (back in season 1, I believe). It's nice to see it fully fleshed out into an episode.
Quote from: Nel_Annette on May 21, 2014, 02:32:59 AM
I enjoyed the hair episode and I can appreciate experimenting with story arcs with the owing money thing, but I'm sick of the Robert episodes. Sick to death of it. Focus on Huey or Riley or Thugnificent or even Jasmine or the blonde girl already, yeesh.
Yeah, that's one of the problems that I'm having with the season. Hell, when you think about it, the best episodes from before were barely Robert heavy at all. Usually they were Huey or even Ruckus-based.
I think this week's had the potential to be kind of good, if they stuck with the Her parody, and didn't delve into 2001 territory.
I doubt it was an intentional Her parody. The movie didn't come out until last December, and this episode's script had to have been finalized at least a year ago considering Boondocks's production schedule.
Personally, I enjoyed it and loved the escalating craziness of the situation, though the ending was a bit abrupt and out of nowhere.
I've been trying to not say too much about the season, since I hope to do a review when it's over, but the ending is part of a problem that I've been having with the season as a whole.
And I guess it's fair that it would have been too soon to be a Her parody, especially since the show has never been particularly timely. It did have some good moments, though.
Yeah, the majority of the endings for the episodes in this season feel like they just got stuck at wherever they were at in the script and just hashed out a hasty way to wrap the central conflict up, but fail to actually create a sense of resolution, so everything just feels fizzled out and the experience of the episode as a whole is brought down. Aside from the endings, though, there really have been some lame eps this season, like the "Freedomland" and "Grandadd Dates A Kardashian" (I think the latter is the worst episode in the entire series to date).
It's also strange that every episode this season is about Robert. I love Robert, I find him a funnier and more interesting character than Huey or Riley, but he is only one of three main characters and shouldn't have been the focus of every episode in this final season. In fact, he works better more as supporting character or sharing focus with another one than as a solo central one, and the best episodes of the series reflect that. Well, I just hope the season finale gives focus to all three Freemans equally and gives the series a proper sendoff.
Well, it's over. Final thoughts?
It was a decent episode, but not at all series finale material.
Overall, I kind of wish the fourth season hadn't had been made. The show basically devolved into self-parody for most of these episodes and most attempts at satire were basic and cliche in the handling of the subject matter. A couple pretty terrible episodes came out, and the whole Freemans in debt plotline went nowhere. One thing I will say is that the Freedom Bus episode is probably among my favorite episodes of the series, but even that episode can't really justify this seasons' existence. Now, I don't hate it or anything, but season 3 was a much stronger season to end the show on than this one was.
The Boondocks was a great show overall, but it's time has come, and I think that's for the best.
Guess they're bringing it back. Again. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBZDcBhxQMk)
I'm not too surprised. After Rick and Morty, this is their biggest original of all time (I know it's technically Sony's, but still). and now that they're losing the Fox shows, they really need the hit.
As long as they can get McGruder back, that is. Without him, there's no point.
I enjoyed the fourth season fine enough, but yeah, the show really needs McGruder to run it - he was the heart and soul, and it was directionless without him. Perhaps their plan to bring it back is why they've been playing the show more often on [as] these days, to keep it fresh in people's minds for its eventual return. But I'm all for it coming back if McGruder's on board, since I think the show could get a lot of great satire out of skewering today's social and political climate.
Yes, please bring back McGruder. Season 4 of Boondocks was the Mind of Mencia to Season 1 through 3's Chappelle's Show.
Sony just confirmed its return on Twitter. (https://twitter.com/SonyAnimation/status/1138795711586344962)
The use of the word "re-imagining" is concerning. :whuh:
Maybe this means we'll get Caesar back.
MacGruder is back! (https://variety.com/2019/film/news/sony-pictures-animation-tencent-boondocks-tartakovsky-annecy-animation-festival-2019-1203240529)
Looks like the reboot is going to HBO Max instead. (https://deadline.com/2019/09/the-boondocks-reboot-2-season-order-hbo-max-1202737902)
Kinda surprising, but I can understand it. HBO Max probably needs the hit as much as [as] does.
RIP John Witherspoon. (https://twitter.com/John_POPS_Spoon/status/1189409257671680000) A huge part of what made Boondocks funny was his performance. Whoever McGruder gets to replace him has big shoes to fill.
The two banned season 2 episodes finally make their debut this Friday.
https://twitter.com/CNschedules/status/1264233657126072331
Cool, so the BET hit piece one and whatever happens with Uncle Ruckus in the other. Glad we already know this won't be an anti-climax like that Dexter's Lab episode where Dex and Dee Dee had clones that swore.
Yep, along with the Tyler Perry episode from season 3 that only aired once.
If you don't have the DVDs, this will be a worthwhile night.
The reboot is releasing in 2022. (https://www.instagram.com/boondocksbootleg)
McGruder took off the "2022" from his Instagram page, implying it's delayed yet again.
Since seeing this video again and being reminded that contrary to popular belief McGruder had a lot of input in season 4 and only left late in production, (https://youtu.be/Iu5IUFIue40) I have to ask if season 5 will be any good. Season 4's flaws didn't come out of nowhere. The show was already falling into a formula of "Stinkmeaner episode, Granddad's sex life episode, Riley tries to be badass but fails episode, reality TV episode, thinly-veiled pisstake on black celebrity episode, Uncle Ruckus episode/s" and getting wackier with each season. While the political commentary became repetitive and occasionally dated due to season delays. They were still making Donald Rumsfeld jokes by season 3 in 2010. The first three seasons were still good, but in time, it's been easier to see the cracks show.
Like the show's fascination with the wacky characters such as Uncle Ruckus, enough that McGruder tried to crowdfund a live-action Ruckus movie, inadvertently pushed Huey to the sidelines and gave him nothing to do besides give lectures and do fight scenes. The show never knew what to do with Huey beyond that. Taking away Caesar from the comic strip gave Huey no one on his level to ground or bring any chemistry out of him, like a Daria without a Jane, and he instead becomes little more than a background extra to Riley and Granddad's plots. I get it. Boondocks is a comedy first and foremost, and the characters who make the audience laugh take precedence over the characters who do the soapboxing like Huey. I preferred the wacky characters to Huey too, but the show never develops or remolds Huey to fit as a comedic character, either because McGruder didn't know how to do make Huey funny without poking fun at his political views (or himself) or he just preferred writing Ruckus or Thugnificent, and it robs the show of its heart.
Welp. Cedric Yarbrough says the reboot's not happening. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OkzOwrj51r0)
Kinda bummed, but at the same time I'm not surprised considering how many times the series got delayed.
McGruder's always had that problem though. Remember how long the gaps were between the first three seasons, or the 4-year gap between Black Jesus seasons, or how McGruder apparently directed and wrote a movie 4 years ago starring Regina King that never came out. (https://regina-king.com/film/the-adventures-of-hooligan-squad-in-world-war-iii/) Meanwhile, the last thing he made that reached screens was that Charlamagne Tha God show.
I always chalked up the delays due to how it feels like Adult Swim has the budget of a ham sandwich from time to time. It's one of the reasons why Venture Bros seasons took a while to come out, I need to look for the quote, but I could have sworn that one of VB creators mentioned that the pay was comparable to "working the good shift at Denny's." Though, learning about McGruder's other projects getting delay does make me question his work ethic.
According to those leaked Sony emails about Season 4, (https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/matthewzeitlin/sony-tv-boss-on-boondocks-creator-aaron-mcgruder-f-em) even McGruder's bosses were exasperated by how long it took to make a season.