I figured that if some doesn't make a topic for this, no one will remember it exists.
Here's an article to get the ball rolling. (http://io9.com/5887051/how-my-little-ponys-lauren-faust-will-make-you-love-batgirl-and-supergirl-all-over-again)
I'll admit that I haven't been keeping tabs on this as much as I like, even though I am interested in the new Green Lantern series and the Teen Titans shorts. That and since the article told me Lauren Faust was doing stuff for this, especially with the female heroes, I'll be sure to keep my eyes out for this.
So other than the Creature Comforts knockoff, I quite liked it. GLTAS surprisingly wasn't crap, and YJ finally looks like something of Weisman quality.
Was the Green Lantern ep a repeat of the pilot that aired a couple of months ago? I didn't record in case it was.
I believe it was. I forgot to catch them, so I was glad that my cable provider put up the show in the On Demand section with commercials intact, cause I was able to see the shorts they aired in between the show. I heard they plan to have new shorts every week, even if the shows on the block are repeats. Other than that, I did like the segments that aired in between the shows, like the Green Arrow boxing glove test where they took an arrow with a boxing glove to see if it would knock down some glasses, and the Plastic Man short, I just love the slapstick humor where Plastic Man kept changing his face to fit the description the lady was giving him. The Aardman cartoon was hit or miss for me. I'm interested in seeing the new Teen Titans and the Superman short that will air this Saturday.
I only recorded YJ, but I regret it since I found the shorts that came with it fun. This week I'm also recording Green Lantern, even though I'll just fastforward through it.
I got to say that I'm enjoying the Super Best Friends Forever, Plastic Man, Superman of Tokyo and New Teen Titans out of the shorts they've shown. SBFF is kind of like MLP:FiM meets DC with a dash of Powerpuff Girls. Plastic Man is pretty good slapstick comedy. Superman of Tokyo is funny with playing with some tropes you find in things coming from Japan, and New Teen Titans is a more goofy version of Teen Titans show. That and I also love the other stuff they peppered through them like testing the Batarang or to see if smoke would come out of one of Green Arrow's arrows. That and character profiles for Kilowog and Plastic Man for those that don't know much about them. I actually kind of forgot that Plastic Man was a reformed crook.
As for Green Lantern, I love this series. I might make a thread for it later so it can get some more exposure here. My favorite character in the show right now is a tie between Hal and Razer. I do like how they're not constantly clashing with the Red Lanterns in the series, but rather threats the Green Lanterns find. I also like how they're fleshing out the characters a bit, like Aya, who knew a ship could be one great member to the team.
I finally get to watch this live for once, and I just felt like saying that I really liked the Titans short.
I especially give my hats off to the 80's scene. I've always been partial to Starfire's massive perm.
I also enjoyed it. I think Teen Titans actually works better in this format, since there's less room for the show's traditionally bad pacing.
I honestly thought that the Teen Titans cartoon worked better as a comedy. I loved the humor in the show, I will admit that to you guys. However rewatching it, the show does drag in certain places and in certain episodes. These short do feel like their retained the humor from the main show, which I like.
Other than Teen Titans, what other shorts do you guys like from this block?
Plastic Man's kind of funny. Not as crazy as the pilot, but it's always fun to hear Tom Kenny perform him.
That's really about it though. The Creature Comforts stuff is probably my least favorite. Then again, I'm not a huge Aardman fan to begin with.
Super Best Friends and the Plastic Man stuff are the best ones. The Aardman stuff is surprisingly low quality, even if I'm not much of a fan, this is the worst stuff I've seen from them.
I'm going to 2nd "Super Best Friends Forever". Lauren Faust's take on these DC characters is pretty good. I find it interesting how Ms. Faust chose to portray Batgirl as the "kooky fangirl" and Supergirl as "the tough one", but surprisingly (to me, at least), these characterizations actually work. Nicole (Shego) Sullivan voicing Supergirl is going to take some getting used to, though.
The Plastic Man shorts are wonderfully wacky, as they should be.
The "New Teen Titans" aren't my favorite segments, but they're OK. I have to agree that TT works better as a full comedy rather than an action/comedy. Titans Tower being shaped like a lower case 't' instead of a capital one and Robin having a lower case 'r' on his costume are a nice touch.
My only real complaint about the shorts is that they're so...well, short. SBFF in particular always seems to end abruptly and too soon. It makes me yearn for a half hour SBFF series.
Some people have been asking for some non-comedic shorts for the block, but I personally prefer the shorts to be humorous, since both of the DC Nation shows are action heavy. It just makes for a nicer contrast.
I agree that Super Best Friends, New Teen Titans, and the Plastic Man shorts are the best ones. For lack of a better term, they're the most "cartoony" of them and they all click with both shows.
With Super Best Friends, I really loved the first episode where Supergirl and Batgirl tried to get Wonder Girl to let them fly the Invisible Jet, as it played very closely to My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.
While I thought Teen Titans did do action well, I'm really glad about New Teen Titans. Still a shame to me they couldn't get a sixth season (as there was one being planned), but I'm glad they're back in some form. This past weekend's episode was utterly hilarious! ;D I really can't believe they got away with Starfire's 80s outfit (especially in her chibi form)! :sweat:
Yeah, I kind of forgot how revealing her 80's outfit was. It makes me question what Starfire's reaction to her New 52 outfit would be like. :P
But yeah, watch the shorts last night and I did enjoy both the Teen Titans & Plastic Man.
Kind of glad to see a new Super Best Friends next week, shame that the MAD skit they're airing already was shown on MAD proper. In fact, I think they've been doing that for all the MAD shorts since I do recall seeing the Green Care Bear on the show before. Not sure about Shazamwhich one.
I forgot about Faust's stuff. They're okay, too.
I think that the DC Nation shorts are too short and mostly unfunny, while the Marvel shorts are way too long and unimpressive. I wish that both blocks would find a better compromise for their programming.
Quote from: Daxdiv on April 23, 2012, 03:22:16 PM
Yeah, I kind of forgot how revealing her 80's outfit was. It makes me question what Starfire's reaction to her New 52 outfit would be like. :P
But yeah, watch the shorts last night and I did enjoy both the Teen Titans & Plastic Man.
Kind of glad to see a new Super Best Friends next week, shame that the MAD skit they're airing already was shown on MAD proper. In fact, I think they've been doing that for all the MAD shorts since I do recall seeing the Green Care Bear on the show before. Not sure about Shazamwhich one.
"Shazamwich" originally aired on MAD also.
QuoteWhile I thought Teen Titans did do action well, I'm really glad about New Teen Titans. Still a shame to me they couldn't get a sixth season (as there was one being planned), but I'm glad they're back in some form.
DC and WBA may produce a new
Teen Titans series somewhere down the line, but that won't happen until after
Young Justice ends. There'd be no point in reviving TT while YJ is still running; 2 "Junior Justice League" shows airing alongside each other would just undermine one another. If there is a new TT show, I would prefer it to be a reboot rather than a continuation of the Cartoon Network series, but that's just me.
QuoteI think that the DC Nation shorts are too short and mostly unfunny, while the Marvel shorts are way too long and unimpressive. I wish that both blocks would find a better compromise for their programming.
Of the 2, I'm going to give the advantage to DC Nation since their shorts are at least original, whereas the Marvel shorts are just "abridged" versions of 2 of the 80s Marvel SatAM cartoons with new goofy dialogue inserted.
Also, this is minor, but I find it kind of annoying how in the "Marvel Mash-Ups", all of the female characters are voiced by men doing falsettos. Couldn't the studio find at least 1 woman to read all the female parts? If nothing else, get 1 of the women from the Ink and Paint department and ask her "Can you say this?"
Quote from: Goldstar on April 24, 2012, 07:44:46 AM
Also, this is minor, but I find it kind of annoying how in the "Marvel Mash-Ups", all of the female characters are voiced by men doing falsettos. Couldn't the studio find at least 1 woman to read all the female parts? If nothing else, get 1 of the women from the Ink and Paint department and ask her "Can you say this?"
Yeah, the women all sound like Tom Kenny.
I don't like when men impersonate women in voice acting. More often than not, they don't do a very good job of it. That's one of my biggest problems with Bob's Burgers, in fact, that only Louise is voiced by a woman.
Quote from: Avaitor on April 24, 2012, 08:43:46 AM
Quote from: Goldstar on April 24, 2012, 07:44:46 AM
Also, this is minor, but I find it kind of annoying how in the "Marvel Mash-Ups", all of the female characters are voiced by men doing falsettos. Couldn't the studio find at least 1 woman to read all the female parts? If nothing else, get 1 of the women from the Ink and Paint department and ask her "Can you say this?"
Yeah, the women all sound like Tom Kenny.
I don't like when men impersonate women in voice acting. More often than not, they don't do a very good job of it. That's one of my biggest problems with Bob's Burgers, in fact, that only Louise is voiced by a woman.
I agree with this, it really isn't needed and is kind of silly.
I will say that I find Edna Mode and Roz hilarious, but those are the exceptions to the rule IMO.
We got an Atom centered short this week with a "To Be Continued..." ending. There, for those fans who have been wanting to see a DC Nation short that's not played for laughs (although I'm personally OK with the shorts being comedic), you're in for a treat.
Also, another "Super Best Friends Forever" short this week. I like SBFF, but the segments are always over much too soon. Come on, Warner Brothers. Make this into a series, already.
SBFF proves to me once again that Faust is a real talent.
As a whole, I'm enjoying the shorts.
They're now making a new Titans show, based off of the shorts.
Thoughts?
I'm cool with it, though I hope this doesn't somehow mean Young Justice won't get a third season. Maybe this opens the door wider for Plastic Man and Super Best Friends Forever to get greenlit.
Quote from: Brak's Dad on June 08, 2012, 11:58:01 AM
They're now making a new Titans show, based off of the shorts.
Thoughts?
I read on World's Finest that this new series will be more comedy oriented than action oriented, and will focus more on the main characters' adventures when they're not fighting crime, which is fine by me, since there are plenty of serious DC animated series either already on the air (
Green Lantern: TAS, Young Justice) or coming to the air (
Beware the Batman). However, I would MUCH rather had gotten a
Super Best Friends Forever animated series instead. Why is Cartoon Network so gun shy about green lighting a female centered cartoon series? One of CN's most successful original shows was
The Powerpuff Girls, fer cryin' out loud! With TT, it's mostly a case of "Been there, seen that". TT was supposed to end after season 4, but it got another season at the requests of it's fans. TT had a good run, but enough TT, already! Let's see something else, please.
DC and Warner Brothers need to stop playing it so safe and stop revamping franchises that they know work (Teen Titans and Batman) and start being bold enough to produce something that hasn't been resurrected 1000 times before. Fans are cool with a comedic DC animated series, but instead of SBFF , Plastic Man or even Animal Man, we get
more TT? Way to think outside the box, guys.
The shorts have actually been pretty good so far, so I don't mind this. But I would really like a Plastic Man and SBFF as well. Heck, maybe as a variety show each having 10-12 minute shorts per episode.
I really want an Adventure Comics show with more shorts like The Atom two-parter we got myself, but that might be asking for too much.
I'd like to see a new Superman animated series, or Wonder Woman, or Captain Marvel before yet another take on Batman. Bats is awesome, there's no denying that, but honestly, I like Bats more as a part of a team like the Justice League than as a solo act, and I'd really like to see a DC animated series that focuses on another hero.
I'd just say "Fuck off with the superheroes" and try to do something more civilian-based on the DCU. I'd love to see a cartoon based off the GCPD, something with Slam Bradley, or even one with Jimmy Fucking Olsen. I mean, I almost feel like Garth Ennis when it comes to fucking superheroes nowadays. Try to show that DC is more than flamboyant capes.
They really are making a new Teen Titans show based on the shorts? I am absolutely okay with this. I've really enjoyed the Teen Titans shorts and can't help but feel the small doses of comedy work better than the majority of the show did.
The Red X one had me cracking up.
I actually haven't seen the majority of the shorts because I forget DC Nation exists half the time. It's a shame because I'd like to see more Super Best Friends Forever and the other shorts.
I haven't been watching since both GL and YJ went on hiatus, but apparently they made enough shorts to air new ones every week. Has anyone been catching up on them?
The block starts up tomorrow with new episodes of both shows.
I'm totally watching GL, but I'm thinking about dropping YJ. I'll probably still end up recording it anyway, but unless the next batch of episodes pull a complete 180 from the first couple, I don't have much interest anymore.
Yeah, I'm hoping it gets back in order soon. But now that it has Bart, I'm back to being interested.
Anyone else pumped for Guy Gardner appearing in Green Lantern tomorrow? Screw YJ, Guy Gardner is in GL!
Oh damn, he is?
Nice.
Bad news everyone, we lost DC Nation. It has been replaced by Dragons and Johnny Test reruns. JESUS PENIS!
Well that was a short return.
So... how long before they pull Titan for the rest of Invasion on Toonami then?
Cartoon Network must really want people to watch Dragons: Riders of Berk. It's so annoying when CN does crap like this.
CN have a contract with DC to keep the block up for at least 3 years, so don't worry, it will be back. I'm not sure how soon, but I don't doubt that we'll get to see the rest of Green Lantern and YJ.
I have a weird feeling CN and WB have something planned. I'm certain WB's people would have to have known about this. Like Avaitor, I'm not panicking over this. Cartoon Netowrk will air the rest of the episodes at some point.
I'm amazed that things are still getting bumped by Johnny Test. That damned show won't go away, funnily I've never gotten the impression that it's really all that popular.
I don't pay attention to kids today, but obviously Johnny Test must be somewhat popular if it airs as much as it does. There isn't any merch for it, but there wasn't a whole lot for EEnE either, and that sure as hell was popular.
But at least on the positive side, this replacement aside, JT really doesn't air as much as it used to on the network.
I just found this out by visiting Toon Zone:
According to World's Finest (http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/2012/10/13/cartoon-network-pre-empts-dc-nation-programming-block-for-remainder-of-october-2012/), DC Nation is going to be preempted for the remainder of the month for Cartoon Network's 20th Anniversary festivities. DC Nation will return on November 3rd.
Quote from: Goldstar on October 13, 2012, 12:14:24 PM
I just found this out by visiting Toon Zone:
According to World's Finest (http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/2012/10/13/cartoon-network-pre-empts-dc-nation-programming-block-for-remainder-of-october-2012/), DC Nation is going to be preempted for the remainder of the month for Cartoon Network's 20th Anniversary festivities. DC Nation will return on November 3rd.
Where did it say in there that's it's back on Nov. 3rd? Cause I didn't see it in that link. ??? Though, that would the most logical explanation. Not to mention November is Sweeps Month.
It's true that no return date was given in the article, but it did state that DC Nation will be preempted for the rest of the month, which would suggest that the block would return in November, and Nov. 3 is the 1st Saturday in November.
I already knew that DC Nation wasn't gone for good, as the block is doing well in the ratings. Still, a heads-up would've been nice, CN.
You should see how people at Toon Zone are freaking out over this. :butbut:
Normally, such fanboy noise amuses and astounds me, but in this case I can kind of understand their rage. CN just dropped this bomb on everyone only 2 episodes into the new season with less than 24-hours notice.
It sucks that we have to wait for more GL and YJ (not to mention those cool shorts; DC Nation was finally going to show the first Amethyst, Princess of Gemworld short today), but I'm not freaking out over it. It's just TV. This just means I can sleep in until TMNT at 11.
^^True, but that's not official confirmation yet. I saw someone on TZ randomly state that it'll be back on the 3rd as well, but I think they were going by assumption. Problem is, assumptions lead to rumors on the Internet. :thinkin:
That's true. The only thing that's known for certain is that DC Nation has been preempted for the rest of October. As for when the block will return, I'll just wait until I read something from either CN or WB officially before posting anything.
^That's the way to go about it. Just saw a quote from Twitter by one of the staff on Green Lantern, that said it's preempted for the rest of the month for their month long anniversary celebration. Granted, that is a weird explanation because Ben 10 and Clone Wars still came on, but that could be for ratings sweeps in November and/or something having to do with the shorts that have yet to air.
I'm not certain if he talked with someone at CN, but it makes some sense at least. :??:
The plot thickens....
I don't know if this is true or not, but supposedly a recent tweet from CN is now claiming that DC Nation will be returning in January.
People are saying that's from their official Twitter, so I guess that's whats going down. Very odd choice, even if they don't get more seasons, but probably they want them to air alongside Beware the Batman. Is that due for January next year?
^^I don't know if Beware the Batman is slated for January specifically, but IIRC both it and Teen Titans Go! are scheduled to debut in 2013. According to World's Finest, both Green Lantern: TAS and Young Justice are supposed to complete their seasons' worth of episodes before the reins are handed over to Beware the Batman.
Also, according to World's Finest, it's going to be back-to-back airings of Dragons: Riders of Berk for the rest of October. Is Dragons really doing that well, or is CN just trying their darndest to promote it?
CN's never been modest about showing off its newborn, so I'm guessing the latter.
I can only imagine the reaction Greg Weisman is going to have when he comes back from that Shakespeare thing he's attending. I only know that Brandon Viette, Giancarlo Volpe, and Brieanne Drouhard aren't happy that their shows got pre-empted. Shame Dragons is now going to be known as that show that pre-empted GL and YJ. Shame really since I have been enjoying Dragons, it's been growing on me. Though I don't get the excuse that it's to promote CN 20th anniversary. I mean, wouldn't you pick like an older show and not something you started to air a few months ago?
So, does that mean no new episodes of Young Justice or Green Lantern: TAS for the next month?
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on October 13, 2012, 08:25:19 PM
So, does that mean no new episodes of Young Justice or Green Lantern: TAS for the next month?
None for the rest of the year.
Huh....Well it looks like in that case, both shows had EXTREMELY short returns. :imnothappy:
Yeah, I don't understand the reasoning behind bringing the shows back for 2 episodes, and putting them back on hiatus right after with so little as half a day in advance.
Why even bother starting them again if CN planned on doing this?
Quote from: Silverstar on October 13, 2012, 12:44:12 PM
You should see how people at Toon Zone are freaking out over this. :butbut:
1. Today I learned that their is a whole sub-board of TZ full of users I have never even met on other boards thanks to this fiasco.
2. Today I learned that DC Nation was a thing. Honestly never even heard of this block before yesterday. :wth:
@Avaitor: Yeah, admittedly its still an odd decision. My guess would be that since it was done on short notice, someone at CN or WB or the top brass at Time Warner put pressure on them to delay the rest of the episodes so they have more new content when Teen Titans and Beware the Batman are ready.
Also, and I'm not sure this the case because of Green Lantern, but apparently DC lost the legal rights to the Milestone characters somehow. I doubt this had anything to do with it, but it's worth mentioning.
Quote from: Nel on October 14, 2012, 02:53:13 AM
Quote from: Silverstar on October 13, 2012, 12:44:12 PM
You should see how people at Toon Zone are freaking out over this. :butbut:
1. Today I learned that their is a whole sub-board of TZ full of users I have never even met on other boards thanks to this fiasco.
2. Today I learned that DC Nation was a thing. Honestly never even heard of this block before yesterday. :wth:
:SHOCK:
Wait are you serious? How could you have watched Young Justice or Green Lantern without knowing about DC Nation? Have you not seen the shorts? ???
I believe I watched one episode of GL and YJ each once, but I didn't even realize that they were a part of a bigger block. Guess I'm just really out of the loop these days. :sweat:
You didn't see any of the shorts that accompany the block?
Nope. ??? I mean, I know Lauren Faust and others were doing shorts, but I thought that was for a half-hour special or something. The more I look into this, the more I can't believe I missed that this existed.
People on Facebook are really being idiots over this. Its one thing to be mad but telling Cartoon Network they suck and throwing insults at them especially when posts on Facebook can be deleted is really boneheaded. At least at TZ several posters agreed that people need to be civil about sending notices to them.
With these people, I'm getting the feeling these are the same jackasses that bothered Greg Weisman over the time skip. :bleh:
Some fans of DC Nation are indeed going a little wacko with their complaints/threats to Cartoon Network over this, but that's not to say that some of the bile that's being spewed isn't justified. Irrational as some of these fans are being, they do have a right to be a little angry.
The problem as I see it isn't so much that CN put the DC Nation block on hiatus until January 2013, it's that the network did it without announcing their intention to do so. If CN had released some sort of notification 7 days, 48 hours, or even 24 hours in advance, I don't think the responses to this would have been nearly as negative as they've been. Instead, we got many fans tuning in on Saturday morning expecting to see new episodes of Green Lantern: TAS and Young Justice who were shocked to see back-to-back reruns of Dragons: Riders of Berk instead. If the network had given even the slightest consideration for it's fans, they would have given them a heads-up. I'm not defending the haters by any means, but I understand the reason why they're acting the way that they are.
Not to mention that they put the shows back on hiatus only 2 weeks after they returned. It's a raw deal all-in-all, but at least CN eventually responded to this change directly.
Well if nothing else, the episodes of Dragons that replaced DC Nation did over 700K less in the ratings than the previous week's airing of the block did, which means that we aren't the only ones who are pissed off about it being pulled off.
Then again, the following day's airings of Johnny Test in DCN's place did over 100K better than the previous week's airing of that block. But that's not really a big deal, since the Sunday airings are just repeats of the previous day's shows, and comedies almost always do better than action shows for kids nowadays, especially a proven smash like JT.
Starting this Saturday, Green Lantern: TAS and Young Justice will begin airing on Boomerang during the 9-10PM (EST) hour.
I don't know if Boom will be airing the shorts and filler segments as well, or just the GL and YJ episodes.
A conspiracy-minded person could assume that this means that DC Nation is done on Cartoon Network, or it could just be a cross-promotion.
Repeats or new episodes?
Hopefully not new episodes- for a lot of reasons... but not altogether bad news.
Quote from: Avaitor on October 30, 2012, 05:01:43 PM
Repeats or new episodes?
Da Boom's schedule didn't specify, but I'm thinking repeats, since CN promised that the block would return to the network in January. But that was just a single tweet; if the new episodes start airing on Boomerang, then that'll basically confirm peoples' fears that
DC Nation is kaput.
Well according to CN's FB page, the Boom will be getting back-to-back repeats of Young Justice, and CN is still getting new episodes of both shows in January.
At least we have that.
Just a quick heads-up:
I was watching The Amazing World of Gumball this afternoon and during it, Cartoon Network aired a promo stating that DC Nation will be returning on January 5, 2013.
So the conspiracy theorists who have been insisting that the block was canceled can be given some new found hope for CN.
Quote from: Goldstar on December 27, 2012, 08:38:15 PM
Just a quick heads-up:
I was watching The Amazing World of Gumball this afternoon and during it, Cartoon Network aired a promo stating that DC Nation will be returning on January 5, 2013.
So the conspiracy theorists who have been insisting that the block was canceled can be given some new found hope for CN.
Unfortunately, that won't stop VileOne and certain others over at TZ from doom-saying. It's not a guarantee that Young Justice or Green Lantern will get renewed. Sadly, we'll have to wait until April with their Upfront meeting to find out it's renewed or not; and even
that isn't a guarantee either because other shows on CN have showed up intact on there even after not being listed.
But anyway, even if they are canceled, I'm still certain DC Nation itself should be fine with Beware the Batman and Teen Titans Go! left to air. I am at least glad to hear too that CN has started promoting DC Nation's return already.
I completely forgot about DC Nation returning today. And since I had to get a new cable box, along with a new DVR, last week, it did not record. Good thing they have repeats tomorrow.
Did anyone catch either show?
Yeah, I don't think I'll be following TTG anytime soon. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBxSo1rcENA)
Quote from: Rynnec on March 31, 2013, 03:24:35 PM
Yeah, I don't think I'll be following TTG anytime soon. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vBxSo1rcENA)
That's not even anything like the art style from the cartoon ads I've been seeing on CN proper. This is just one of the shorts that aired during DC Nation. It was because of this that we got that. Shame we'll never get a Princess of Gemworld cartoon. Those were probably my favorite of the DC Nation shorts.
My favorite shorts from DC Nation were Super Best Friends Forever, but Warner Brothers has stated flat out that they won't be making an animated series about female capes anytime soon because they don't think that the toys would sell very well. :bleh: They should see how many fanfics based on the Tournament of Heroines from the TT episode "Winner Take All" have been written since that episode's debut.
I want a show like the Atom shorts, but since he's not Batman, that won't be happening.
Unfortunately, none of the 'lesser' DC heroes (i.e., anyone without 'Super' or 'Bat' in their name) will ever get an animated series unless they get a hit live-action movie first, but those characters will never get a live-action movie because Hollywood doesn't think they're popular enough. It's a Catch-22.
As for TTGO!, I heard someone describe the show as "a disgrace and an insult". Nah, it's not that; it's really more of a marketing decision and a clear reflection of the state that action's in right now at Cartoon Network. The New Teen Titans shorts from DC Nation proved popular, and they were based on an established franchise which has already proven successful, which is why we got this instead of The Atom, Princess Amethyst or SBFF. As for why it's a chibi comedy show featuring the Titans scouring the galaxy for sandwich ingredients instead of TT season 6, right now there's more money to be made from kids' comedy than kids' action; comedies on the whole are less expensive to produce and they presently earn back bigger ratings and revenues than action cartoons (except the really heavily toy-driven stuff like Ben 10).
Sadly, the 'failures' of Green Lantern and Young Justice will only ensure that we'll be seeing more shows like TTGO! and less ambitious action/superhero projects in the foreseeable future.
Well look at every DC movie made in the past few years that wasn't Batman (I'll be nice and exclude Vertigo)- Catwoman, Superman Returns, Jonah Hex, Green Lantern.
And Man of Steel doesn't look a whole lot better than any of these. With a track record like this, maybe it's best to not see anyone else tainted by Warner/DC.
Say that again when Guillermo's John Constantine movie actually sees fruition.
Del Toro stretches himself so thin though, and at least 90% of the projects he's attached to never come to fruition. At least not with him involved.
Reports about a Man of Steel early screening were that it was good and not as dour and serious as the trailer made out. I'm still convinced with Nolan as a producer, there's at least a smidgen of truth in that.
I really hope that Man of Steel does well at the box office. Not only would that make America Superman conscious again, but a successful live action movie would guarantee a new Superman animated series for DC Nation.
As for Teen Titans GO!, even though I would have rather gotten a Super Best Friends Forever series, I'm willing to give this series a look, since I enjoyed TT much more when it tried to be funny than when it tried to be serious.
Quote from: Goldstar on April 01, 2013, 07:18:57 AM
As for Teen Titans GO!, even though I would have rather gotten a SBFF series, I'm willing to give this series a look, since I enjoyed TT much more when it tried to be funny than when it tried to be serious.
Same here. I thought TT worked best as a goofy comedy, so unlike most folks on the interwebs, I'm not turned off by the TTGO! concept. I just wish we could've gotten a different set of characters to star in it, as I've never been crazy about the
Teen Titans: TAS cast.
Well, the TT episode I enjoyed the most was the tofu one so I'm inclined to agree. I'm not sure how well it'll work as a full series but I'll give it a shot.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 02, 2013, 04:47:57 PM
Well, the TT episode I enjoyed the most was the tofu one so I'm inclined to agree. I'm not sure how well it'll work as a full series but I'll give it a shot.
I'm pretty sure it'd work in a similar fashion to the Tiny Titans comics: a bunch character and situation-based gags mixed with a multitude of references towards DC Comics mythos. If they pull their cards right, it will be a very funny series.
So I just looked at the talkbacks for the series premiere of TTG, and I'm finding it hilarious how after all those months of bitching and moaning, people liked it for the most part. Yeesh. :lol:
It helped that the Teen Titans Go! premiere episode wasn't horrible. That isn't to say it was super funny, but I did get some good laughs from it and, honestly, it was sort of nostalgic to hear the original cast act these characters again. It's not Batman: Brave and the Bold good, but it seems worth keeping up with.
I also thought Go! had a decent first episode. Not great, but some of it was quite funny. I absolutely loathe the new character designs and theme song remix, though.
Quote from: Foggle on April 30, 2013, 09:10:03 PM
I also thought Go! had a decent first episode. Not great, but some of it was quite funny. I absolutely loathe the new character designs and theme song remix, though.
I hated the designs when they were first revealed, but I think they'll grow on me, now, because they seem to be used effectively for the show's purposes. I thought the remix song was okay, nothing to get worked up over.
After 2 episodes, I have to say that I don't hate Teen Titans GO!, in fact, I kind of like it. TTGO is basically the DC Nation shorts in a half hour format, but it actually works. It's not the greatest, but I do like the way that characters are exaggerated, and the allusions to the rest of the DC universe in the backgrounds are amusing. Unlike many DC fans on the internet, I like the idea of DC animated series that's played strictly for laughs.
I'm also enjoying Teen Titans Go! At first I wasn't crazy about the new art style but it's not as distracting as I thought it was going to be after two episodes. It's also great to hear the old voice cast again, you can tell they love working with each other.
Although we're only 2 episodes in, I'm enjoying Teen Titans GO! more than I did the entire 5th season of TT:TAS, and that's not an exaggeration in the slightest.
Quote from: Goldstar on May 05, 2013, 08:51:49 AM
Although we're only 2 episodes in, I'm enjoying Teen Titans GO! more than I did the entire 5th season of TT:TAS, and that's not an exaggeration in the slightest.
I'll see that comment and raise you this: I'm enjoying
Teen Titans GO! more than
the entirety of
Teen Titans: TAS. All 5 seasons. This, to me, is what the original TT should have been back in 2003. TT worked best when it was trying to be goofy and silly, far better than when it tried to be dark and serious (IMO), but even the good stories felt padded out, since each episode of TT was a full half-hour, and since
Justice League (which was running at the time) was the straight, serious DC Comics show,
Teen Titans should have been the silly, comedic DC Comics show to counterbalance that. I don't even particularly mind that TTGO! doesn't use the Founding Five Titans. And on a side-note, if Lauren Faust ever does get to make
Super Best Friends Forever a series, I hope it's like
Teen Titans GO!.
Of course, TTGO! isn't for everybody; the show still has its' share of detractors. One anti-fan even went so far as to imply that TTGO! was worse than
Ultimate Spider-Man. "At least
Ultimate Spider-Man is trying." Trying to do what, exactly? Be the smelliest turd on TV? Everyone's entitled to their opinions, but no way in the deepest, darkest corners of hell is
Teen Titans GO! a worse show than
Ultimate Spider-Man. TTGO! is juvenile and goofy, but it's funny, and it doesn't try to be anything more than a simple comedy, unlike USM which tries to be a serious action show, a
Family Guy-esque laugh-a-minute romp, a Marvel Universe crossover team-up show, a
Teen Titans ripoff and a love letter to Spider-Man fans simultaneously, and fails miserably at all of them.
Eh...it's only been two episodes. I don't think the original Teen Titans holds up very well (and I loved it as a kid), but whether as a whole Teen Titans Go! will be better than the entirety of the show is uncertain when the show can still easily become unwatchable as the episodes progress, a la Chowder.
I agree that it's much too early to judge the series as a whole, as the series could just as easily go South and get worse as it progresses as it could stay good from start to finish, but I'm personally enjoying the series so far. I know that many of the haters are hating on TTGO! because it's not what they wanted, which was season 6 of Teen Titans. However, remembering just how badly TT season 5 sucked, if we had to get more TT at all, I'm glad that WB went with this idea instead.
Also, I agree with Silver that TTGO! is head and shoulders above Ultimate Spider Man. USM sucks because it tries too hard to be all things to all fans. It wants to be part comedy-part action, but doesn't do either one particularly well. And don't get me started on Team Spider, or whatever the hell they're called on the show. USM makes Super Hero Squad look like Downton Abbey.
Bumping this forward to join and restart the conversation.
I'm on the side that is so not digging TTG. Granted, I'm not the target demo, but the fact that CN has flipped another bird DC's way with their mistreatment of Beware the Batman suggests that the block might as well go away from CN unless DC is willing to do more comedy.
Seeing as how I never saw the Super Best Friends Forever shorties---a problem easily fixed via YouTube--I wouldn't mind this being expanded to a regular series, as long as it doesn't get screwed up and over.
I watched 2 TTG shorts, and wasn't amused, but then, I referenced that in the TTG thread. A Superman series, if ticketed for the block, needs to be somewhere in the vicinity of Batman: Brave & the Bold to succeed, for example.
Time to eat some crow...again.
After having a few months to sober up, I can now say that Teen Titans GO! isn't as great as I originally said it was. Some of the individual gags (particularly the visual ones involving other DC characters) are pretty good, but the stories are hit and miss; the writers tend to just do whatever they want with the characters: seriously injure, mutilate or even kill them without a care, sometimes in the most senseless and/or mean-spirited ways, only to hit the reset button at the start of each new episode. I'm all for wacky, but the way the TTGO! writers handle their cast and stories just comes off as lazy and half-assed to sometimes, especially these latest installments.
Speaking of Teen Titans, I recently watched the Blockbuster Buster's Honest Review of the 2003 TT series; while it was an interesting experience revisiting that show after several years (and TT's takes on Robin, Cyborg and Starfire were pretty cool), overall I stick by my original opinion that the show was schizophrenic and uneven, and I still thought TT was best when it was just trying to be funny. Side note: it kind of irks me when fans of the show refer to the 2003 CN version of the Titans as "the definitive Titans". It could just be because I'm old, but I'm constantly amazed how so many of TT's fan base have never read a comic in their bloody lives. No, the team from the CN show are not the definitive Titans; that honor goes to the Founding Five: Robin, Kid Flash, Aqualad, Wonder Girl and Speedy. However, I'm not so sure I'd want to see a show starring them, since they were all pre-PC Caucasians, the gender ratio was so unbalanced (4 boys and only 1 girl--these days a Five Man Band should consist of at least 2 female members) and I've always felt that Robin and Speedy together on the same team was redundant, like having Batman and Green Arrow together (heck, GA was created to be an archery themed analogue of the Dark Knight). Overall, I think I'd rather get a SBFF series than TTGO!, as long as the people in charge were to actually care for the characters and the quality of the writing.
I literally haven't watched DC Nation since it became back-to-back TTGO! episodes, nor was I especially impressed by Beware the Batman; but that could just be Bat Fatigue on my part. If Superman is ever slated for DC Nation, a DC Comics Presents series should be something CN and WB should at least consider.
CN moved DC Nation up a 1/2-hr. on 12/21 so they could slot Steven Universe at 10:30 (ET). Whee. In an unrelated note, water is wet.
I really want to see a new Superman cartoon.
I'd definitely take a new Superman show over more Batman.
Why didn't we get one for his 75th anniversary? It really makes no sense.
Quote from: Daxdiv on December 22, 2013, 07:03:27 PM
Why didn't we get one for his 75th anniversary? It really makes no sense.
Capcom?
Shoot, gimme a new Justice League show or Superman, and send TTG packing.