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Title: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 19, 2011, 11:03:48 PM
Stole the topic idea from Toonzone (http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showthread.php?t=279882)

I remember a month or two ago flipping on to AS for some reason or another and seeing yet the same promos and same style of humor they've been milking for almost a decade. Does anyone here even still watch the block beyond reruns on a regular basis?

Their originals are always the same, there ads haven't changed since day one, and their anime pick ups get more dumbed down every year. Do you guys feel that it's time for Adult Swim to do something about it, or should they sink even further into irrelevance?
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Avaitor on March 19, 2011, 11:16:34 PM
As long as there's a way for KOTH to easily be seen again, I don't really care what happens to [as].

When they drop it, then I hope they find something better than repeats of older, better shows, shit originals, and anime they don't care about.

All I really have to say at this point.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 19, 2011, 11:33:32 PM
Other than reruns of better shows, AS really isn't worth much to me anymore. Which is a real shame considering the quality of their early days.

I'm still wondering what happened between them and Adam Reed which lead to Frisky Dingo biting the dust early and FX getting Archer. And the less said about Metalocalypse the better. I just cannot get into that, and can't believe it' from one of the Home Movies creators.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Avaitor on March 19, 2011, 11:43:22 PM
I like Metaocalypse, but admittingly, I don't catch up with it.

I think you need to really be into metal to get the most enjoyment out of it, but I'll admit that the show definitely doesn't compare to Home Movies.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Foggle on March 20, 2011, 12:30:42 AM
I don't really like Metalocalypse OR Home Movies. :butbut:
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 20, 2011, 12:51:41 AM
Quote from: Foggle on March 20, 2011, 12:30:42 AM
I don't really like Home Movies.
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Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Avaitor on March 20, 2011, 12:53:25 AM
To be honest, I'm kind of worn out with Home Movies right now. There's only 52 episodes, and I've seen them all so many times. I don't mind if they take a break from it for now.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 20, 2011, 12:54:38 AM
Nothing wrong with that. It's why I haven't watched either South Park or Family Guy in over a year or two now.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on March 20, 2011, 12:57:49 AM
And no offense to either of you guys, but I'm pretty much the same when it comes to KotH.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Avaitor on March 20, 2011, 12:59:53 AM
Also fair.  I think since it has a lot of episodes, it'd be easier for the show to hold up better in repeats, but [as] has already ran through the show a few times now, so I can see that happening.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 20, 2011, 01:03:22 AM
That's also why I stopped watching Simpsons reruns a long time ago. I don't watch AS reruns of KOTH for fear of the same issue.

I'd rather be burned out on something on my own terms, not because of poor programming choices.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Rosalinas Spare Wand on March 20, 2011, 10:18:00 PM
It's weird. It's like the more timeslots they acquire, the less fucks they give. Who honestly believes they ever planned on doing anything worthwhile with 9pm?

Not to mention they're the first destination for animation targeted at older audiences, and all they ever produce now is low budget ugly shorts that repeat the same jokes, or imported live action shows that no one cares about. Since they do well enough with Fox reruns, and nobody else really makes adult animation, they're content with just letting the block stagnate like this.

It's frustrating and annoying. The only reason I even tune in nowadays is to have background noise at night.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: gunswordfist on March 23, 2011, 07:12:18 PM
Regression. They need to go back to what they used to do in my opinion. I actually still like the cards. I just want more anime and less American Dad.

I infact do only watch reruns though. Well that and Brotherhood.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Kiddington on March 25, 2011, 12:21:53 AM
Lack of variety with the classics is what's really killing this block for me. It took them a whole damn to finally put Harvey Birdman back on (supposed to start again next week)... and yet, it comes at the expense of Space Ghost.  :whuh:

I will say one thing about Adult Swim, though; it's nice for King of the Hill to have a "home" on cable TV, and I'm glad they're giving it one. I'm not sure why people are so inclined to bitch about this. KOTH is a fine series, and it deserves to be on TV (especially given that everything from Season 7 onwards is MIA on DVD). If we're gonna whine about anything, make it Squidbillies or some awful shit like that. As far as I know, that show has never been taken off the schedule for any real length of time, and it needs to be sent into retirement.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Commode on March 25, 2011, 06:28:11 AM
Quote from: Kiddington on March 25, 2011, 12:21:53 AM
I will say one thing about Adult Swim, though; it's nice for King of the Hill to have a "home" on cable TV, and I'm glad they're giving it one.
I'm still bitching that The Simpsons hasn't found a cable home yet.  Get it on Adult Swim, or Comedy Central, or FX(probably the most likely choice), I don't fucking care, just get it to come to cable somewhere.  Especially since in most cases the classic seasons are rarely seen in syndication these days; I think the oldest Simpsons episode I've seen here in Virginia so far was "New Kids on the Blecch" from season 12.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: gunswordfist on March 30, 2011, 04:56:34 PM
I want to finish watching The Simpsons on DVD before that happens.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Eddy on July 02, 2011, 10:42:41 AM
It's astounding how much [adult swim] has dropped in quality over the years. When they first came around it was bold, fresh, and offered some great adult oriented cartoons. Home Movies is still probably my favorite but there was also Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Sealab 2021, Space Ghost Coast-to-Coast, Harvey Birdman: Attorney at Law, etc. And they introduced me to some great anime like Cowboy Bebop, FLCL, and Yu Yu Hakusho. I also loved Shin Chan.

But these days, aside from catching King of the Hill reruns, I have a little reason to watch [adult swim]. I loathe Squidbillies. I can't stand Assy McGee (seriously, who comes up with this shit?). Metalocalypse isn't a terrible show but it's no Home Movies, that's for damn sure. Robot Chicken makes me laugh sometimes but overall I don't care much for it. I haven't watched anime on [adult swim] in years aside from Shin Chan (to be fair, I haven't really watched ANY anime in years). [adult swim] needs to take a good, long, hard look at itself and try to be something other than a block for stoners.

However, I will say that I love Superjail! and Tim & Eric.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Avaitor on July 02, 2011, 10:49:26 AM
Personally, I dig the recent addition of Durarara! to the schedule, and can't wait for the new season of Boondocks to air. Those give the block a little glimmer of hope to me.

But that said, the block is still mostly worthless. Since KOTH's on Netflix, I just watch it there, and never use the channel for anything but DRRR and Boondocks repeats now.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Lord Dalek on July 02, 2011, 12:51:10 PM
Haven't watched it regularly in years so whatever rubbish shape its in is of no importance to me.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 02, 2011, 03:19:50 PM
It's almost like a parody of what (good era) SNL would do of Adult Swim back when it started.

They should just call it what it is: "Stoned Teens With Insomnia Swim"...
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: gunswordfist on July 02, 2011, 03:28:02 PM
Brotherhood and King Of The Hill for me. Can't wait to watch a new episode on my birthday, which is tomorrow, which means you guys need to make a thread about that
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daikun on July 19, 2018, 10:47:28 PM
I suppose now is as good a time as any to bump this thread.

Adult Swim lost King of the Hill to Comedy Central very recently, and now they're also losing The Cleveland Show (https://deadline.com/2018/07/comedy-central-acquires-king-of-the-hill-the-cleveland-show-fox-mike-judge-seth-mcfarlane-1202429689) to the same network.

Are we seeing the collapse of Fox's reign on Adult Swim? Disney is on the fast track to buying Fox, anime returned to the weekday schedule after a decade, and everything's feeling topsy-turvy. I suspect a major shakeup may occur soon.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daxdiv on July 21, 2018, 06:38:09 AM
Could be. Once they lose Family Guy, I feel like they might have to fall back on some of the original programming. American Dad might be safe for the time being, considering how premieres air on TBS and Adult Swim usually airs them later. Now, I gotta figure out what shows they'll try to air to fill in that time since most of them do deserve their later appearance on the block or if they'll give CN the 8 PM hour back.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daikun on August 30, 2018, 01:25:52 PM
The Cleveland Show leaves Adult Swim on September 10, causing DB Super to expand to a full hour. (https://twitter.com/CNschedules/status/1035106119897821184)

EDIT: Here's the full schedule for that week. (https://twitter.com/CNschedules/status/1035251812478197762)
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daxdiv on August 30, 2018, 05:30:38 PM
I'm surprised they decided to give Super an hour instead of airing Kai or going for Naruto Shippuden. Though I do find that them airing Robot Chicken, Harvey Birdman & ATHF at around 8 PM on the weekends to be a bit of a bold move.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daikun on September 04, 2018, 01:22:28 AM
Bob's Burgers might be leaving in a few weeks. (https://adultswim.sercomkc.org)

What. Is. Happening?


EDIT: False alarm.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on September 04, 2018, 04:54:34 AM
Disney probably doesn't want Cartoon Network airing their newly bought properties.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daikun on September 07, 2018, 06:30:41 AM
They're not losing Bob's Burgers. Never mind.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daikun on December 18, 2018, 05:19:25 PM
So, after taking a break for a few months, Adult Swim is getting 8PM back from Cartoon Network (as usual).

Rather than fill the top spot with more Fox reruns, though, they're filling it with Samurai Jack. (https://twitter.com/CNschedules/status/1075085804412825600)

After that experiment with DB Super, I'm glad they're not falling back on old habits. I hope they keep experimenting with this hour.

EDIT: Also, DB Super and DBZ Kai will fill up 8PM on Saturdays. (https://twitter.com/CNschedules/status/1075386425850372097) Um... Okay, then why move Toonami down? :thinkin:
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daikun on March 25, 2019, 09:45:39 PM
Just days after Disney absorbs Fox, Family Guy is moving to Freeform. (https://twitter.com/nickandmore/status/1110339872248786945)
They're not old reruns, either--it's seasons 16+, which Adult Swim hasn't aired. (They've been stuck at season 15 since Disney's buyout talks started.)

AS is fucked now.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Avaitor on March 26, 2019, 12:39:30 AM
Well shit.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 27, 2019, 11:43:57 PM
[as] losing the FOX shows is inevitable, which is why I think they've been experimenting with the lineup more recently and testing out how their originals play in timeslots normally occupied by the FOX programs. [as] has so many IPs and shows in its catalog that losing the FOX shows won't hurt them as hard as we might think, but they will probably shrink hours unless they can more programming they can play endlessly without losing viewership like Robot Chicken and Rick & Morty. I'm curious if they might try adding some of their long-running anime to the weekday lineup in the future like when they started off with Dragon Ball Super last summer. At the very least I could see DBS and DBZ Kai playing well on weekdays since they have a proven history of doing well in reruns.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Avaitor on March 28, 2019, 01:40:49 PM
I still say that they should move Shippuden to weekdays. That and Kai could easily hold their own daily.

Another possibility is to either give CN a couple of hours back, or maybe make the first few hours a Splat-like nostalgia block. There does seem to be a demand for their older shows the same way there is for Nick's, but CN keeps sleeping on them in comparison. Now's as a good of a time as ever to fix that.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daikun on April 08, 2019, 10:40:40 PM
It's over. (https://deadline.com/2019/04/fx-networks-nabs-off-network-rights-to-family-guy-bobs-burgers-fxx-to-share-family-guy-with-freeform-1202591604)

Adult Swim will be losing all their Fox shows (except maybe American Dad) in Fall 2021.
EDIT: They keep Bob's Burgers until 2023.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daikun on July 21, 2020, 02:17:55 AM
After those shows leave, AS likely won't pick up any future Fox shows. (https://twitter.com/animatedplus/status/1285401797163532288)

Well, this is it. In a few years, they'll have to really reinvent themselves to justify being on 10 hours a night.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Avaitor on July 21, 2020, 12:08:09 PM
Good.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daxdiv on July 21, 2020, 05:20:28 PM
Guess FXX will be the new home for Fox's animated line-up when they get to syndication part, since I know that both Bless the Harts & Duncanville at least were able to get a 2nd season greenlit. Gonna be interesting to see what Adult Swim can/will air as a lead in show from regular CN to AS, along with what else will air before the midnight hours.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Avaitor on July 21, 2020, 10:26:25 PM
They're gonna need more hits like Rick and Morty to justify the block's place. And even that doesn't have the pull in repeats that Family Guy or even Bob's Burgers does.

To be fair, [as] is still technically more successful than CN proper, but that's primarily off of the strength of the Fox shows and Rick and Morty premieres. Their other originals don't have nearly the same clout.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on July 21, 2020, 10:42:01 PM
Yeah, hedging your bets on reruns of shows you don't own will always be a double-edged sword. It's why Nickelodeon but not Nick@Nite went for more of their own homegrown shows, and any show they aired that wasn't theirs is shafted in schedules.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Peanutbutter on July 24, 2020, 06:31:00 AM
New era for AS on the way. Be nice if they would put Toonami on weeknights like how they used to have Inuyasha, Trigun and whatknot like in the Aughties, but I doubt that's happening any time soon.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daxdiv on July 24, 2020, 07:38:03 AM
I mean, as much as a double edge sword that is licensed programming is, I'm kinda surprised that they haven't tried to rerun Dragon Ball series to the ground with both Kai & Super being viable options. The fact that they're pretty good transition show from CN to AS, along with having a good amount of episodes to fill that up doesn't hurt. I know they experimented with MHA at 5:30 AM on weekdays, which is a little weird, but since it is the new hotness from SJ, I can see why they gave it a shot.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daikun on September 01, 2021, 06:03:04 PM
Adult Swim is permanently losing 8PM...but on Sundays only, and it's starting this week.

Over the next week, CN will be airing Star Wars movies, then after that, a new block called ACME Night will run from 6-9PM.

https://deadline.com/2021/09/warnermedia-kids-family-acme-night-block-for-families-cartoon-network-1234825320

ACME Night will include movies and new original programming, including a few HBO Max originals.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Peanutbutter on September 01, 2021, 10:15:23 PM
Hmm, that's interesting. Assuming they mean old CN stuff, that will bring in much needed variety.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 02, 2021, 12:19:07 AM
[adult swim] always loses 8pm in the Fall around October anyways, and this isn't the first time they've let CN seep into their timeslot when their evening movies run long. But I'll be curious if they'll just lose 8pm permanently across all days once Family Guy leaves the network at the end of the month. Not that they don't have the programming to fill the two hours it takes up each day, but few other shows on the network pull in ratings on its level.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Avaitor on September 02, 2021, 04:41:18 PM
I think this is a good idea on paper, but if they're just using the time to air movies for now, I'm not very impressed. It'll be cool when they air some of these new series and specials.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Commode on September 02, 2021, 08:19:11 PM
ACME Night would be the perfect chance to air the original shorts again on CN as well, doesn't even have to be in blocks just put one or two in between whatever movies.  With a late slot too they could air uncut versions, or hell even other shorts like Popeyes and Tex Avery MGMs.  Tons of the original cartoons are being restored for METV and HBO Max, good opportunity to grab some of those.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daikun on September 04, 2021, 10:21:12 PM
Family Guy is leaving September 18. (https://twitter.com/swimpedia/status/1434305778349973505)
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daxdiv on September 05, 2021, 12:49:50 AM
>The final episode of Family Guy to air on AS is the one where Stewie gets pregnant with Brian's babies

What a fitting end to an era.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Avaitor on September 05, 2021, 03:07:55 PM
I don't really care about Family Guy anymore, but it is a little weird to see it leave [as]. The show basically saved the block from extinction, and helped to make it more successful than CN. If FG and Futurama didn't bring more butts in seats than their weird stoner shows did, we likely wouldn't have Venture Brothers, Boondocks, Eric Andre, Rick and Morty or Joe Pera.

But nothing lasts forever, and [as] really needs to step their game up. Making more crowd pleasers like R&M and Eric Andre will help. But they'll probably need to push their hours back a little... or maybe integrate some more CN shows? They tried Adventure Time a year or so ago, and Samurai Jack comes and goes. Maybe a nostalgia block as a gap between regular CN and [as] could work.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daxdiv on September 06, 2021, 05:06:44 PM
I do wonder if Adult Swim ramping up production on certain shows is because of them losing Family Guy. I mean, Rick & Morty got a 70 episode order while previous seasons were always on the fence & since RM is like the popular ongoing original, I guess I can see why they want that to be the FG replacement. Then there's the fact that they rescued Tuca & Bertie from Netflix. Along with hearing about Smiling Friends being picked up as a series does have me interested.

For an interesting look, this is what the first weekday line up will look like after FG leaves (https://twitter.com/CNschedules/status/1434686121766649859) For the lazy it's:

8:00 - Joe Pera Talks With You
9:00 - Bob's Burgers
10:00 - American Dad
11:30 - Rick and Morty
12:00 - Robot Chicken (new)
12:15 - Robot Chicken
12:30 - Aqua TV Show Show
1:00 - The Venture Bros.
1:30 - Bob's Burgers (repeat)
2:30 - Rick and Morty (repeat)
3:00 - Aqua TV Show Show (repeat)
3:30 - The Venture Bros. (repeat)
4:00 - Tender Touches
4:30 - Robot Chicken (repeat)
5:00 - Naruto Shippuden
5:30 - Samurai Jack
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Avaitor on September 06, 2021, 06:29:08 PM
I LOVE Joe Pera, but there's only about a week's worth of episodes if they air it for an hour. This has to be temporary.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daxdiv on September 06, 2021, 07:54:18 PM
To be fair, I wouldn't be surprised if around October is when CN gets the 8 PM Hour back and that Joe Pera is acting more as a filler. Especially since I was unaware of how much time Cartoonito is gonna eat up for CN (6AM-2PM) . Now the real question remains, will regular CN retain the 8 PM Hour after the holidays, or will AS find something else to air in it's place?
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Avaitor on September 13, 2021, 05:39:36 PM
So next week, the Acme block is going to air an episode of Family Matters after an airing of Shazam!

... Why, though? I get that they're going to air the Urkel Christmas special later this year, but this is such a weird and ultimately pointless way to use that half hour.

Why not air something else that could be good for families? Something actually animated and slightly less common on TV. We're at the age where today's parents would have grown up with Cartoon Network's first wave of originals, so why not put on one of those instead? Or... what about the cartoons they got the name of the block for?
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 14, 2021, 11:03:44 PM
Family Matters is a weird show for CN to air, but it's time-filler and meant to reintroduce kids to Urkel ahead of the Christmas special so it makes sense to me. I wouldn't want them to start airing it regularly on CN just on principle, though I wouldn't be surprised if they try adding it to [as] at some point.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daikun on September 18, 2021, 10:45:43 PM
Family Guy's run has officially ended, and AS made a farewell bumper for the show.

https://twitter.com/FamGuyFunny/status/1439432286114508802
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Peanutbutter on September 19, 2021, 01:57:50 AM
End of an era. One could argue it was FG's run on [as] that propelled its DVD fueled comeback when it was canceled in 2003.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Avaitor on September 19, 2021, 01:27:22 PM
Apparently, 20th Television started commissioning a fourth season before Fox ordered it, after the show became a hit on [as]. If Fox didn't express interest in bringing the show back, it could have very well gone to [as] instead, which would have been very interesting to see.

And that's a classy bumper. I was honestly surprised that it happened, as between the lack of fanfare from [as] prior to these last airings and their lack of acknowledgment of the block's 20th anniversary makes me think that they don't like celebrating or recognizing this stuff.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daikun on September 19, 2021, 02:02:03 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on September 19, 2021, 01:27:22 PMAnd that's a classy bumper. I was honestly surprised that it happened, as between the lack of fanfare from [as] prior to these last airings and their lack of acknowledgment of the block's 20th anniversary makes me think that they don't like celebrating or recognizing this stuff.

I think AS only does that when the show is important to them.

When Futurama's rights were expiring, they dedicated an entire week to airing every episode. When KOTH and The Cleveland Show left, they didn't do shit.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Avaitor on September 19, 2021, 03:59:22 PM
Quote from: Daikun on September 19, 2021, 02:02:03 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on September 19, 2021, 01:27:22 PMAnd that's a classy bumper. I was honestly surprised that it happened, as between the lack of fanfare from [as] prior to these last airings and their lack of acknowledgment of the block's 20th anniversary makes me think that they don't like celebrating or recognizing this stuff.

I think AS only does that when the show is important to them.

When Futurama's rights were expiring, they dedicated an entire week to airing every episode. When KOTH and The Cleveland Show left, they didn't do shit.
Valid. But what about Bebop? They're losing the rights to it, if they haven't already, and they didn't do a thing for it either.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 20, 2021, 03:08:56 AM
They've let their rights to Bebop lapse before, back in the fall of 2013, and didn't renew them until a few months later in the Spring of 2014, and unlike the FOX shows they could conceivably get the rights to Bebop back in the future if they really want to, so I suppose they didn't feel like losing it again needed to be acknowledged.

[adult swim] has never really done much for their anniversaries outside of the 10th where they had a few bumps highlighting the most notable shows they've aired, and the 16th where they had a big History of [as] event where they spotlighted all their originals over the course of a few weeks. For the 20th they only acknowledged that they might've ran some old promos if they hadn't lost the tapes for them and had to rip one off of Youtube instead. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EslDCOZeD-s&ab_channel=JusXtreme96XtremeArchives)

I thought the Family Guy farewell bump was very sweet, and a nice surprise since yeah, they didn't do anything for KOTH or The Cleveland Show even though those shows ran on the network way longer than Futurama. KOTH ran on the network for nearly a decade! But they can only air a strict amount of the FOX shows every week so marathons were out of the question, and it feels like programming is generally on auto-pilot except for occasional surprises like scheduling an hour of Pigeon-focused Mike Tyson Mysteries episodes for two nights following Norm MacDonald's passing, so I can understand that not every show they lose can get a big sendoff even if it would be nice.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daxdiv on September 20, 2021, 05:15:04 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on September 19, 2021, 01:27:22 PM
Apparently, 20th Television started commissioning a fourth season before Fox ordered it, after the show became a hit on [as]. If Fox didn't express interest in bringing the show back, it could have very well gone to [as] instead, which would have been very interesting to see.

I thought that was a pretty interesting factoid. Imagine how Family Guy with Adult Swim's S&P would have been instead of dealing with Fox's S&P. Considering how during the earlier years of the revival, AS had a bunch of jokes that were considered more... I want to say... cruder than what Fox would allow.

QuoteAnd that's a classy bumper. I was honestly surprised that it happened, as between the lack of fanfare from [as] prior to these last airings and their lack of acknowledgment of the block's 20th anniversary makes me think that they don't like celebrating or recognizing this stuff.
Still surprised that Adult Swim went out of it's way to acknowledge it as well, especially by making an animated bumper rather than it's traditional black & white bumpers. But then again, I'm pretty sure AS owes a bit of it's success to Family Guy & vice versa.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daikun on October 13, 2021, 12:26:41 AM
Quote from: LumRanmaYasha on September 20, 2021, 03:08:56 AMThey've let their rights to Bebop lapse before, back in the fall of 2013, and didn't renew them until a few months later in the Spring of 2014, and unlike the FOX shows they could conceivably get the rights to Bebop back in the future if they really want to, so I suppose they didn't feel like losing it again needed to be acknowledged.

Yep, and now it's back on their website. (https://www.adultswim.com/videos/cowboy-bebop)

...and I guess Netflix is getting it, too? (https://twitter.com/NetflixGeeked/status/1448060919595126787) :thinkin:
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daikun on December 12, 2021, 06:56:41 PM
Futurama returns December 27. (https://twitter.com/swimpedia/status/1470183643893190656)
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Avaitor on December 12, 2021, 08:16:59 PM
Well then.

I wonder if Disney doesn't see the commercial potential in these show if their production is over, and have no problem with giving [as] the broadcast rights.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daxdiv on December 12, 2021, 09:24:56 PM
I guess so. I mean, since The Simpsons, Family Guy & Bob's Burger are still in production while KotH & Futurama have ended production many years ago, they do see them as used goods & might as well get some money out of licensing it to other networks. Though I do find it interest. Though I do wonder how desperate Adult Swim is to get these shows back.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on December 13, 2021, 10:30:00 PM
FXX only plays KOTH and Futurama in the daytime so I guess Disney doesn't see sharing them with [as] as giving them competition considering they have Simpsons and FG. But there have been active rumblings about KOTH getting a revival and there's always talk about Futurama coming back as well, so who knows, [as] might be trying to invest in any potential revivals of the shows as well to eventually produce episodes of them that they'll have perpetual rights to a la the TBS-produced episodes of American Dad! Even if they don't end up having a hand in any revivals, I'm sure the ad revenue from these shows will be a relief to [as] after losing FG, since these 10 to 20-year-old FOX show reruns still somehow draw more of an audience than most of their original programming sans R&M do.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on March 16, 2023, 10:19:54 PM
I've been thinking about this for a while this week, especially with all the discourse of how much cancellations are on the rise with TV again because streaming services expect every show to do as well as Stranger Things or get the axe, but how exactly did AS even afford to air and produce all those live-action shows like Delocated, NTSF:SD:SUV::, Eagleheart, etc for multiple seasons? Because I looked at the casts for some of these shows, and they have actual celebrities like Rob Riggle, Karen Gillan, John C. Reilly in lead roles. And I don't know who watched these shows at late night. I'm sure there was somebody, but late-night blocks filled with premiere series and all-star casts aren't commonplace for a reason. I guess AS could justify the costs with the money they made from Family Guy reruns, but I doubt the reruns made them enough to justify all those shows, or else Fox or Disney would have noticed and pulled the rights to all the Fox cartoons.

How well does Adult Swim even do financially compared to every other after-midnight block? Because I know every other channel is content to air either reruns or some paid programming about oxygen therapy or Camp Lejeune instead of waste it on new shows. And now that Rick and Morty is in fight-or-flight mode, I wonder if that'll shake up AS' future or not.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daikun on March 17, 2023, 09:42:37 PM
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on March 16, 2023, 10:19:54 PMhow exactly did AS even afford to air and produce all those live-action shows like Delocated, NTSF:SD:SUV::, Eagleheart, etc for multiple seasons? Because I looked at the casts for some of these shows, and they have actual celebrities like Rob Riggle, Karen Gillan, John C. Reilly in lead roles.

These shows were made during the Time Warner (post-AOL) era, when the conglomerate was in a better financial state than AT&T or Discovery. AS also saved millions of dollars a year by trashing their old swimming pool branding and switching to the B&W bumpers they're known for today.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Avaitor on March 29, 2023, 11:26:48 AM
So now [as] is taking 7 PM. (https://deadline.com/2023/03/adult-swim-unicorn-warriors-eternal-animation-warner-bros-discovery-1235311351/) Based on a tweet from their account, expect more KOTH at that time.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daxdiv on March 29, 2023, 12:39:34 PM
On 1 hand, I'm interested in seeing what else they're gonna air as a buffer between adult swim and regular Cartoon Network, though it is probably gonna be KOTH at 7. That & also the fact that I was under the impression that they're gonna lose Bob's Burgers soon-ish. I also wonder when the holiday season comes around if Adult Swim will lose the 7 PM hour or not & if that will be the new normal.

Though there is that part of me that does wonder what's gonna happen to CN proper. What new shows are we even getting on CN?
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Avaitor on March 30, 2023, 12:07:52 PM
I saw someone speculate that Disney may be more willing to license their shows back to [as], so not only may Bob's Burgers contract be renewed, but they could regain the rights to Family Guy. But I think that depends on what would make Disney more money, the ad revenue those shows bring to Freeform and FXX, or syndication rights from Warner.

Whether or not that happens, KOTH and Futurama are tame enough to fit during 7-9, but one idea I still think deserves a shot is using that part of the night as a CN throwback. They tried Adventure Time for 8pm a while ago, but that was probably a little too recent for the demo. I'm thinking Dexter's Lab and Eds, or even further back and timeless like Looney Tunes.

Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daikun on March 30, 2023, 09:22:32 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on March 30, 2023, 12:07:52 PMI'm thinking Dexter's Lab and Eds, or even further back and timeless like Looney Tunes.

I'd love to see AS experiment with Boomerang-type programming again. I liked when the 5AM hour actually meant something, and now that they're moving even earlier in the evening and they're even airing original shows that were meant for CN, it would be nice to have some transitional shows between the two networks. (Seriously, why is Unicorn airing at midnight and not this fancy new hour they got?)

But alas, we all know they're just gonna fill it with more KOTH. :bleh:
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daikun on April 19, 2023, 10:00:38 PM
Quote from: Daikun on March 30, 2023, 09:22:32 PM(Seriously, why is Unicorn airing at midnight and not this fancy new hour they got?)

Well... Guess they ARE airing it at 7PM.
It's only on Fridays, though--the day AFTER it premieres--so they're using the hour to rerun the show instead of premiere it. ???

https://twitter.com/CNschedules/status/1648853987754401801

QuoteBut alas, we all know they're just gonna fill it with more KOTH. :bleh:

Even worse, they're gonna air TWO HOURS of KOTH.
Dear Williams Street: This is overkill. We don't need this much Hank Hill every night.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daxdiv on April 20, 2023, 03:17:10 PM
They honestly couldn't give 1 of those hours to Futurama at the very least?
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Avaitor on April 21, 2023, 01:14:33 PM
Quote from: Daxdiv on April 20, 2023, 03:17:10 PMThey honestly couldn't give 1 of those hours to Futurama at the very least?
Looks like they are later in the month. I love both shows, I think a lot of the audience still does, but if this is what they're using 7:00 for, they really don't need it.

Although one thing that I think is cool is that before their Friday repeats of Unicorn, CN will air Adventure Time and Steven Universe. At least for the first week.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daxdiv on April 21, 2023, 05:44:31 PM
I'm hoping that after some time has passed that Adult Swim uses the shows that were meant to air on Cartoon Network proper as the 7PM-8PM buffer between the content of the 2 different networks. If they were considered "safe" enough to air on CN proper, why not use them as a buffer between the 2.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daikun on May 17, 2023, 06:35:39 PM
...and AS is expanding to 6PM in September. (https://twitter.com/CCNCartoonNews/status/1658918938892201987)

Slow the fuck down, Williams Street!
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Avaitor on May 18, 2023, 11:46:52 AM
I'm seeing people compare this to when The N and Noggin were the same channel, and it really does feel like it. At this point, just go separate.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daxdiv on May 18, 2023, 02:32:54 PM
I've seen a couple of people saying that on Twitter as well. Really does feel like CN is shrinking in size. Really, just rebrand another channel already.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Avaitor on May 19, 2023, 12:34:17 PM
But at the same time, it is true- kids today really don't watch as much TV as they did when we were their age. YouTube is a bigger competitor to the networks and even streaming for children than anything else.

I have no interest in parenthood, but I can't imagine that I'd be comfortable with having my hypothetical children browse YouTube instead of a service curated for them like one of the cable channels or a filtered streamer.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on May 19, 2023, 04:36:06 PM
Though given how much free kids' TV there is on Tubi, YouTube, or the uncharted shores, I assume a parent would rather make their own playlist for their kids instead of upgrade their cable tier to get CN. Or stick them in front of PBS instead.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daikun on June 07, 2023, 07:30:35 PM
Adult Swim's 6PM expansion begins August 28...

...and it will air Cartoon Cartoons instead of more KOTH. (https://deadline.com/2023/06/adult-swim-expansion-nostalgia-block-checkered-past-cartoon-network-1235398446)
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daxdiv on June 07, 2023, 09:33:51 PM
I guess that's one way to bridge the hours between the two.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Avaitor on June 08, 2023, 11:46:24 AM
Between this and Boomerang adding more of Warner's non Looney/Tom and Jerry/Scooby library back onto the schedule, I think that they've accepted that kids aren't going to return to cable, especially if they never really grew up with it, and instead the channels are going to focus on older demos. Which works for me.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daikun on July 27, 2023, 09:28:14 PM
I guess Checkered Past is running TWO hours. AS will be starting at 5PM instead of 6.

https://twitter.com/CNschedules/status/1682571654617001986
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daikun on August 25, 2023, 08:13:58 PM
AS could be losing Bob's Burgers next month. (https://twitter.com/animatedplus/status/1695235746419151089)

EDIT: Never mind. TBS is only losing it.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Avaitor on August 28, 2023, 01:54:20 PM
Makes sense, I believe they lost Family Guy in September the other year. I hope they have more planned than just KOTH and American Dad repeats.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: TheDisneyPlayhouse on August 29, 2023, 02:30:56 PM
I know Dexter's Laboratory was considered one of Cartoon Network's biggest shows, but it feels surprising to see it air regularly outside of Boomerang. I was going to say it hadn't aired since the City era regularly (According to Cartoon Network/Adult Swim Archives, which archives Cartoon Network and Adult Swim archives through several official sources, it last aired regularly on January 13th, 2006, a few days before it started airing on Boomerang), but then I remembered that it did air regularly for a brief time around the end of 2010/beginning of 2011 (According to the archives, it was from November 8, 2010 to March 4, 2011). It's even more surprising that Dexter's Lab is airing in a weekday timeslot regularly that isn't when kids are in school. The last time they aired it in a weekday timeslot that wasn't that was on April 16, 2004 (Though it still aired on the weekends for a little while afterwards)

I'm also surprised Kids Next Door isn't part of the initial Checkered Past lineup. It felt like there was a time in the early 2010s where if Cartoon Network decided to air one of their older shows, Kids Next Door was one of the most likely picks (In fact, from January 2010 when it returned to the regular lineup to May 2011, it consistently stayed on the lineup). I'm kind of surprised it's on Boomerang for the time being and Dexter is on Checkered Past
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daxdiv on September 01, 2023, 12:08:11 PM
After checking out Checkered Past for the 1st week, I do like how much care has been put into this block. The bumpers are pretty nice & I like the variety of them. Along with how the show are currently not on an auto-pilot mode like the rest of the adult swim line-up , like they actually curated & picked the best episodes to air during the block, rather than just going by some order like the Fox shows do and how much they jumped around for the shows like Billy & Mandy (like how they aired the episode where Mandy entered a beauty pageant or the episode that gave us Fred Fredburger) and Eds (Where they gave us a season 1 episode one day, then a later season the next day.)
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daikun on September 09, 2023, 09:56:53 PM
Quote from: Daikun on August 25, 2023, 08:13:58 PMAS could be losing Bob's Burgers next month. (https://twitter.com/animatedplus/status/1695235746419151089)

So, it's not actually happening (TBS is just losing it instead), but an interesting development just came up: For the first time in years, AS will be airing more recent seasons of BB. (https://twitter.com/CNschedules/status/1700682213799436434)

So, I guess we're NOT losing this show?
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Avaitor on September 10, 2023, 11:08:55 AM
Really curious. Does Disney not find the show as profitable as Family Guy, or are they willing to sell their shows back, FG included?
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on September 10, 2023, 09:53:51 PM
Yeah, it's weird. They have Freeform, FXX, and several other channels they could use to rerun Fox cartoons. What about the AS deal is more lucrative for Disney?
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Avaitor on September 11, 2023, 05:17:26 PM
That's the thing, I'm not sure what is more profitable to Disney- Warner purchasing the rights to air these shows or the ad revenue they'll receive by airing them on their own channels.

But with the recent announcement that FXX and Freeform are among the Disney channels that Spectrum will lose, they might see syndication as more profitable once again and [as] could reclaim Family Guy... or not, since it's likely that these channels were on the cutting board in the first place.
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Avaitor on September 20, 2023, 08:23:07 PM
It's official- season 9 of Bob's Burgers starts airing in October.

Since they've clearly renewed their contract, I wonder what's next. Trying to get Family Guy back makes the most sense, but I have a feeling that Disney may still want to hold onto it. So I have another theory- what if [as] picks up Archer instead?
Title: Re: Is it time for Adult Swim to change?
Post by: Daikun on April 24, 2024, 01:40:49 AM
Samurai Jack is joining Checkered Past. (https://twitter.com/CNschedules/status/1782657689098608658)