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Title: Venture Bros.
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 23, 2011, 06:33:50 PM
The Venture Bros. was recently picked up for two additional seasons and its own special, apparently.

Now I know this show is extremely divisive around here, but I just wanted to see what exactly it is people don't like or like about this show.

I preferred its season 1 approach of stand alone episodes sprinkled with character revelations and unpredictable gags. Season 2 still had these episodes, but in season 3 I started losing attention when they started making long arcs and became too up its own ass with continuity where everything was connected and it kind of bored me. From what I heard season 4 is more of the same and is probably the most divisive season yet, so I doubt I'll get around to that any time soon.

The show's world used to feel a lot more open than it does now, where it feels like everything is connected and the world is less interesting for it. Again, I haven't seen season 4, but 3 didn't really hold up to me as well as the first two, so I doubt 4 will change my mind.

Thoughts on VB?
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on March 23, 2011, 06:41:07 PM
I stopped watching the show around the start of season 2, though hearing how arc-heavy the later seasons got might be right up my alley. Since honestly, I found season 1 more boring than anything.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 23, 2011, 06:43:48 PM
If you like continuity, you'll probably like it. I just didn't like how it came at the expense of making the world seem so small.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Avaitor on March 23, 2011, 07:51:49 PM
The first season was fine IMO. It wasn't much more sophisticated than anything else [as] was doing at the time, but it was still a pretty clever show with some good characters.

Season 2 was even better in terms of humor and character interaction, but that's when the continuity started to get overbearing. Season 3 got even worse in that regard, and that's all that four is. And Sgt. Hatred.

The show is too stuck up it's ass in continuity, and it isn't even that much smarter than most other William Street originals like the fans want you to believe. There's still plenty of shit, piss, and obviously pedo jokes. More of the same in half hour form, with a bunch of references to early episodes that you won't get unless you see every episode in order, some multiple times.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 23, 2011, 08:37:40 PM
I was kind of hoping season 4 would go back to what made the first two seasons fun, but I don't know, I guess a lot of people like the continuity heavy direction. I just think in the process it made the scope so narrow that it lost a lot of its richness in the adventure-style set up it used to have.

Oh well, I guess I'll just have to sit out on this show for now.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on August 26, 2011, 12:19:22 PM
So, I never really watched much of this show before, beyond a few random episodes here or there, and those were only from the first 2 seasons, anyways.

My brother recently let me borrow his Season 1 DVD set and I've plowed through the first of 2 discs, so far. Personally I'm loving it. The sense of humor is really up my alley and while I normally don't like how cold and mean-spirited some characters can be (namely Rusty), in this series it seems to work out just fine in playing into its sense of humor. Currently it seems to be more of a parody of Johnny Quest (among other things) than an homage to it or something of the sort as I've heard some people describe it. At any rate, I do find myself enjoying season 1, so far. I'll post my full thoughts on it whenever I manage to complete the set.

Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on March 23, 2011, 06:41:07 PM
I stopped watching the show around the start of season 2, though hearing how arc-heavy the later seasons got might be right up my alley. Since honestly, I found season 1 more boring than anything.

I guess I'm just the opposite, or maybe the later seasons will prove me wrong, but to me this show seems like it would almost only work well as an episodic series. I kind of feel the same as Desensitized that arc-based story-telling would make this series feel more limited rather than anything else. But once again I have yet to see anything beyond season 2 so I'll have to check it out for myself to see how I feel about the later seasons.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Avaitor on August 26, 2011, 12:59:24 PM
Season 1 is a lot of fun, and 2 showed a lot of promise. Whether you like 3 and 4 or not is up to you.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 30, 2011, 06:04:44 PM
Season 2 is basically a more ambitious version of season 1 with subplots. It's season 3 where they pretty much just jump right into ongoing stories.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on September 01, 2011, 02:22:22 PM
I just finished watching season 1. Overall I quite liked it. I'm not sure what to make of the ending, though. Was that scene supposed to be canon or did they retcon in out in season 2? I'm guessing that the creators didn't expect the show to last more than one season and had a kick by killing off the Venture Bros. at the end of season 1, but I suppose I'm taking it more seriously than I should since its mostly a ridiculous show with silly plots that heavily parody Johnny Quest and other classic cartoons and such.

Anyways, I'll see if my brother has season 2 in his collection so I can borrow it, but if he doesn't then I'll have to find the set somewhere else (and hopefully I can get it for a cheap price in that case).
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: gunswordfist on September 01, 2011, 02:32:53 PM
I used to like this show....then it got too nasty. It hurts my brain watching past season 1.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Daxdiv on September 02, 2011, 12:57:11 AM
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on September 01, 2011, 02:22:22 PM
I just finished watching season 1. Overall I quite liked it. I'm not sure what to make of the ending, though. Was that scene supposed to be canon or did they retcon in out in season 2? I'm guessing that the creators didn't expect the show to last more than one season and had a kick by killing off the Venture Bros. at the end of season 1, but I suppose I'm taking it more seriously than I should since its mostly a ridiculous show with silly plots that heavily parody Johnny Quest and other classic cartoons and such.

There are some clues that hint that what happened at the end of Season One... happens a lot to Hank and Dean. One instance I remember was Dr. Venture talking about some process in the episode where Dean's "No-nos" hurt. But don't worry, I thought the same thing after watching those episodes the first time I watched Venture Bros on TV.

As for me, still a fan of this show. I like the special that aired recently and the song "Jackets" is stuck in my fucking head. I feel half tempted to get that shirt on AdultSwim.Com
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 03, 2011, 09:49:00 PM
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on September 01, 2011, 02:22:22 PM
I just finished watching season 1. Overall I quite liked it. I'm not sure what to make of the ending, though. Was that scene supposed to be canon or did they retcon in out in season 2? I'm guessing that the creators didn't expect the show to last more than one season and had a kick by killing off the Venture Bros. at the end of season 1, but I suppose I'm taking it more seriously than I should since its mostly a ridiculous show with silly plots that heavily parody Johnny Quest and other classic cartoons and such.

Anyways, I'll see if my brother has season 2 in his collection so I can borrow it, but if he doesn't then I'll have to find the set somewhere else (and hopefully I can get it for a cheap price in that case).
It gets explained, and it actually does make a lot of sense, but if you feel cheated then you can at least rest assured that its not something they rely on ever again after that moment.

Season 2 is satisfying enough for a continuation, I feel.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Daikun on June 02, 2013, 05:45:14 PM
Well, it's been three years and a couple of specials thrown in-between, but Season 5 FINALLY premieres tonight with a one-hour special.

And here's a recap (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CHVLSY_Hrk) of the first four seasons in 8 minutes.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 02, 2013, 06:45:06 PM
This new season better be worth the wait. Season 4 was a step up from season 3, so let's hope season 5 will be just as good or better.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: GregX on June 08, 2013, 11:21:24 AM
I seem to be the opposite on this show here. I love it, and I think the heavy continuity and mythology they built with actual character development made it so much better.

Out of all the "adult" cartoons there are, this is my favorite.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on June 08, 2013, 11:26:36 AM
Yeah, I don't get the negative reception toward the show's continuity here either. I watched the premiere last week, and the continuity in no way locked me out of the humor.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Avaitor on June 08, 2013, 12:08:14 PM
Really, I just despise Sgt. Hatred.

But I'm planning a rewatch of the whole show before I come up to 5,
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Silverstar on June 08, 2013, 05:47:47 PM
Venture Brothers is an OK show; I still get some laughs out of it, though I will admit that I miss the earlier format of stand-alone episodes and wish we could still get some more of those instead of the nonstop interlocking continuity. I'll admit, however, that my gripe is more a reflection of myself than the show's writing, which is actually pretty good; I have a short attention span and I'm incredibly lazy (as a TV viewer, just as I am as an artist/writer, I'm an avid believer in the rule of KISS--Keep It Simple, Stupid), so I don't like to have to keep track of a bunch of ongoing story arcs and events, and now every major character has to appear in every episode; some characters like The Monarch, Dr. Girlfiriend (or Dr. Mrs. The Monarch), #21, Dermott, Sgt. Hatred et al I could like more if I got a break from them once in a while and didn't have to see them every single week.

Oh, and I love the song "Jacket".
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Daxdiv on June 08, 2013, 06:58:43 PM
Venture Bros is probably my favorite of the Adult Swim shows. I saw the season 5 premiere, and I think it probably is the strongest of the season openers. I kind of hope we see more of Augustus St. Cloud, he probably was one of my favorite parts of the episode. EAT THE PENNIES! I kind of imagine that shitting pennies and whatever reaction eating said pennies would cause would be a very unpleasant experience. That and Gary doing more shit after the OSI members left SPHINX, can't wait to see what else he does this season. Such a shame that this season is going to be short compared to the others. At least we got that that Shallow Gravy and the Halloween special out of it.

Also I do kind of like how they handle pop culture references in this show. It isn't as in your face and if you know your shit, you appreciate the joke a little more, while if you don't, it's not like it ruins your experience.

As for the TF2 ad that aired after the season premiere, I enjoyed it, but then again I am one of the few people who likes Team Fortress 2. I just found it interesting that they added 3 different hats based from that episode into the game. Kind of makes me wonder if Adult Swim and Valve are going to team up again and add more hats based on the next episode.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Foggle on June 08, 2013, 07:05:42 PM
Quote from: Daxdiv on June 08, 2013, 06:58:43 PM
As for the TF2 ad that aired after the season premiere, I enjoyed it, but then again I am one of the few people who likes Team Fortress 2.
I figure you mean on this forum, because that game is extremely popular elsewhere. And for the record, I love it as well. ;)
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 08, 2013, 10:49:08 PM
I love The Venture Bros.. I started the show with the last episode of season 3 and got hooked on it instantly, and immediately watched season 4 afterwards, and my lack of knowledge of the continuity didn't in anyway hinder my enjoyment of it at all. After seeing the whole show, the weakest part of it is the middle parts of season 3, but even that stuff is still quite enjoyable. In anycase, the season 5 premiere was quite fantastic. After three years it doesn't feel like the show ever left at all, which is a good thing. I'm hoping the rest of the season will have the same level of quality.

Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Daxdiv on June 08, 2013, 11:40:55 PM
Quote from: Foggle on June 08, 2013, 07:05:42 PM
Quote from: Daxdiv on June 08, 2013, 06:58:43 PM
As for the TF2 ad that aired after the season premiere, I enjoyed it, but then again I am one of the few people who likes Team Fortress 2.
I figure you mean on this forum, because that game is extremely popular elsewhere. And for the record, I love it as well. ;)

Yeah, I kind of meant on AR. I know it's popular as shit everywhere else, just not here. It's the 2nd most played game on Steam on any given day, Dota 2 manages to beat that out.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Nel_Annette on July 07, 2013, 11:29:11 PM
Is anyone else loving this season as much as I am? I mean, we could use more Brock Sampson, and way less Sgt. Hatred and his man-titties, and Doctor Venture seems a bit... more naive about the things going on around him? But still, the plots have been pretty funny and the twists in the plot are still pretty cool.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Goldstar on July 08, 2013, 07:47:12 AM
So now Dermott knows that Dr. Venture is his father, which technically makes Dermott the 3rd Venture Brother (actually a half brother). I wonder if he also knows that his "older sister" is actually his mother and that his "mother" is actually his grandmother?
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 08, 2013, 04:18:56 PM
Are they really still pushing Sgt. Hatred?

Why?
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Silverstar on July 08, 2013, 08:37:00 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 08, 2013, 04:18:56 PM
Are they really still pushing Sgt. Hatred?

Why?

Someone at Astrobase GO! really likes him, I guess. Plus, Doc needs a bodyguard now that Brock's back with OSI.

I just wish somebody would get rid of his man-boobs already.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Daikun on September 26, 2014, 01:47:32 AM
Special episode trailer. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WL4XfBTCe0)
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Daikun on January 19, 2015, 04:55:52 PM
An hour-long episode premieres tonight at midnight.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Nel_Annette on January 20, 2015, 12:01:20 AM
That whole thing was fantastic. A lot to process. Looks like the status quo is getting heavily changed again.

And Stephen Colbert came back!  :D
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Daikun on January 20, 2015, 12:08:01 AM
After you're done watching the episode, also check out the five-minute epilogue (http://www.adultswim.com/videos/the-venture-bros/the-venture-bros-special-epilogue) on Adult Swim's website.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 09, 2015, 12:37:14 AM
At the Titmouse panel at Comic Con today, they confirmed that season 6 will start airing this February. Finally! "All This and Gargantua-2" was freaking phenomenal - probably my favorite episode of the series to date - and promised a lot of great stuff coming down the pipe for the series that I've been anxious to see for a long time. It's great to know that the show will be back soon, though now that a date has been confirmed, waiting for it these next few months is going to be even harder.  :D
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Pharass on October 10, 2015, 03:21:49 AM
That's great news. I was almost starting to wonder if we'd ever get more episodes.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Daikun on October 21, 2015, 04:26:44 PM
Season 6 begins January 24.

Also, new trailer! (http://www.venturebrosblog.com/2015/10/the-venture-bros-season-6-trailer-released-with-new-premiere-date)
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Daikun on January 06, 2016, 06:02:23 PM
Season 5 recap. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2iltiQLSMo)

Season 6 starts in three-and-a-half weeks!
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Nel_Annette on March 21, 2016, 12:58:24 AM
It's hard to describe how I feel. I've loved this season, but having it end now when it really feels like we're building up to something just leaves me a little hollow.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: gunswordfist on April 15, 2016, 02:08:06 PM
I started this series last night and I'm loving it. Of course I've already watched these episodes before and even recently-ish on tv, excluding the pilot which I think I haven't seen in 13 years. Either way, this show starts off pretty well. The 1st episode even sets up some later stuff like with the fetuses, pills, Fantastic expy and I think Hank idolizing Brock. I needed an adult cartoon to go with all the anime I watch and this fills that void.
Edit: Forgot to add, I am up to the Sargasso episode. I love Dr. Orpheus' intro episode before that. He's probably my favorite Venture Bros character.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: gunswordfist on April 21, 2016, 01:47:36 AM
Just finished watching Invisible Hand Of Fate. Jesus fucking Christ does this show have interesting lore.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Pharass on April 22, 2016, 06:18:42 AM
Quote from: Nel_Annette on March 21, 2016, 12:58:24 AM
It's hard to describe how I feel. I've loved this season, but having it end now when it really feels like we're building up to something just leaves me a little hollow.

Yeah, taken as a regular episode Red Means Stop was good, but as a season finale it felt underwhelming.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Daikun on April 28, 2018, 05:35:12 AM
According to Time Warner's latest quarterly report, (http://ir.timewarner.com/phoenix.zhtml?c=70972&p=irol-suppdata) season 7 could start in the Fall.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Daikun on June 28, 2018, 10:28:10 PM
Season 7 premieres August 5.

Here's a teaser. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rTOMeJrmZlY)
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 15, 2018, 11:37:53 PM
Enjoyed season 7 a lot overall, particularly for everything involving the Monarch, Dr. Mrs. The Monarch, the Guild redefining itself, and the Peril Partnership subplot. The biggest developments to come out of the season was definitely the history between the Blue Morpho and Jonas Venture coming to a head in the opening three-parter, and of course, finally confirming that Rusty and The Monarch are indeed brothers, and The Monarch finding that out at the end of the season. I'm really curious about how that'll affect The Monarch's character arc and ambitions as a villain in the next season, now that he knows his most hated enemy is his own flesh and blood. I'm not sure if the next season'll be the last, but I kinda feel that with the show's biggest mystery finally confirmed and made known to most of the characters, and pretty much everyone having moved past a major period of failure in their lives and made progress to being better people, there's not a whole lot more for the show to do aside from tying up all the loose ends between the two titular sets of Venture Bros - Rusty and The Monarch, and Hank and Dean. So it'll be interesting what kind of conclusion the show might build to, and whether it'll ultimately be optimistic or nihilistic considering the show's theme is "failure," but most of the characters have achieved success and contentment if not happiness by this point.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Daikun on September 05, 2020, 08:24:46 PM
According to Ken Plume, season 8 is the final season.
https://twitter.com/CNschedules/status/1302413600938582017
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on September 07, 2020, 06:10:09 PM
Jackson confirmed it. There's no season 8 to wrap up anything. (https://twitter.com/jacksonpublick/status/1303102212193705985) What the hell? I thought AS was willing to let this show run forever.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Daxdiv on September 07, 2020, 07:08:00 PM
Man, fuck 2020! I can't believe it got the ATHF treatment where the crew was working on more episodes but the network decided to cancel it route. I still stand by ATHF being cancelled due to "Boston" episode leaking, not sure what thing Venture Bros did to get it cancelled.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on September 07, 2020, 07:35:33 PM
Yeah, what happened? It can't be due to the regime change, because Venture Bros' ratings were still normal. And if this were an HBO Max issue, they could've just moved the show there.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Daikun on September 07, 2020, 08:09:16 PM
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on September 07, 2020, 07:35:33 PMYeah, what happened? It can't be due to the regime change, because Venture Bros' ratings were still normal. And if this were an HBO Max issue, they could've just moved the show there.

Let's face it: The show was TERRIBLE with deadlines. Making us wait three years just for an 8-episode season was agonizing, and I think the network's patience ran out, especially when they spent so much money only to have minimal returns that were way overdue.

Also, AT&T has been downsizing WarnerMedia to stave off its debt. This show might've been one of the casualties.

I'm going to miss this show. It's a shame it won't get the finale it deserves. It seemed like season 8 was going to wrap everything up.

I'm really hoping HBO Max/Netflix/some other network can let them finish off the show.

EDIT: Adult Swim made a statement on Twitter. (https://twitter.com/adultswim/status/1303162122520723456)
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Avaitor on September 08, 2020, 12:24:58 PM
If you want to let them finish the show... let them have their 8th season. Or at least a movie.

I'll admit, I've been way behind on Venture, but no one wanted to see it end just yet. This is pretty disappointing news.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Peanutbutter on September 08, 2020, 02:46:08 PM
I wouldn't rule against this being because of the recent changes behind the scenes with AT&T. Of course, Covid maybe played a part in this. I didn't watch more than a few episodes, but I'm sorry for all of its fans. Seven seasons across a decade or not it should be allowed to finish it's last arcs and right now it doesn't sound like it will get to.


Hopefully, in a couple years it can get a reboot or movie. A lot can change.
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Daikun on May 12, 2021, 02:00:27 PM
Venture Bros. is returning with a followup movie! (https://tv.avclub.com/the-venture-bros-aqua-teen-hunger-force-and-metaloca-1846874279)
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Daikun on April 19, 2023, 06:47:59 PM
First look at the new movie.

Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Daikun on June 08, 2023, 07:29:09 PM
Title: Re: Venture Bros.
Post by: Daikun on July 21, 2023, 12:37:53 AM
The movie is out now. (https://www.amazon.com/Venture-Bros-Radiant-Blood-Baboon/dp/B0B8SHMVGW)