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It's Revelation Time! => Warner Bros. => Topic started by: Commode on January 16, 2011, 09:17:57 PM

Title: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Commode on January 16, 2011, 09:17:57 PM
What about the famed cat and mouse duo from MGM?  Don't they get any love?

As for me. I rather enjoy this particular short. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NnemnFhJ9Uw)  Any of youse guys got any favorite Tom and Jerry's?
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 16, 2011, 09:31:18 PM
I referred to Tom & Jerry once as a sort of Zen experience when done right. I stand by that statement.

Turn your brain off and enjoy the mayhem. There's no dialogue to keep track of (most of the time), no complex plot twists, just zany comedy with a cat and a mouse.
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Avaitor on January 16, 2011, 09:48:00 PM
Wow, I haven't seen this in a while. This isn't quite a favorite, but it's rather well done, and classic Tom.

Make me pick a favorite, and this would be up there (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZraYEVDMB8c), for sure.
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Commode on January 16, 2011, 09:59:46 PM
One custard pie!  Let me have it! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZYSFXGVvFM&feature=related)  One of my favorite lines from a cartoon.

This one is also a good one. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGPkLQKFMto)
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Avaitor on January 16, 2011, 10:40:54 PM
Quote from: SNES Chalmers on January 16, 2011, 09:59:46 PM
One custard pie!  Let me have it! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mZYSFXGVvFM&feature=related)  One of my favorite lines from a cartoon.
This is another great one. The plot is nothing new for cartoons, even for the time, but it's all about the execution, and this one just kills.

Quote from: SNES Chalmers on January 16, 2011, 09:59:46 PM
This one is also a good one. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KGPkLQKFMto)
Another classic. I remember watching a Pixie and Dixie cartoon a while back that ripped off a few Tom & Jerry shorts, including the ending of this one. I can usually defend a lot of those cartoons, but that isn't one of them. This one trumps Pixie and Dixie any time.

I'd love to post some Tex Avery shorts, but I don't know if that would justify it's own thread, since he made cartoons outside of Warner and MGM, and then I should also make threads for Chuck Jones, Bob Clampett, and the like.
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Angus on January 17, 2011, 11:26:57 PM
I give it lots of love. It's what put Hanna and Barbera on the map, before they became producers to all those crazy talking animal shows.

Don't you believe it!
Touche monsieur pussycat.
Is you is or is you ain't my baby.
Gee, I'm throwing away a million dollars....but I'm happy!
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Avaitor on July 09, 2011, 04:54:31 PM
So Warner is finally making a T&J set akin to the Looney Tunes ones, just as it deserves. It should be out in chronological order, with no tampering with the shorts, tons of extras, and supposedly great new prints.

Seems like a good time to bump the thread. Also, talk about Tex's stuff and the rest of the MGM studio's work if you so choose to.
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 09, 2011, 05:40:15 PM
I need to start getting these sets. So much awesome.
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Kiddington on July 11, 2011, 02:32:32 AM
I'm just surprised that WHV is actually releasing stuff geared towards the actual animation collector again, and not just the soccer mom crowd looking for a digital babysitter.

Dare I take back my scathing comments about them from a few days ago? Well... no. NO. I have to see, before I believe. It sounds nice, yes, but let's see if they actually follow through on this without fucking it up first.

...as for the topic at hand, love Tom & Jerry. Always have, always will. I'm a slapstick kinda guy (when it's done right), and this is right up my alley.
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Mr. Big on July 24, 2011, 08:05:00 PM
Anyone have opinions on the Gene Deitch and Chuck Jones' take on the characters?

I'll admit that the Deitch shorts are a guilty pleasure. The fact that they were done by Eastern European artists who've never seen the original shorts before gave it a bizarre feel that just made it interesting to watch. Although I find it sad that many animation fans equate Deitch with T&J rather than his other works featuring original characters (the Terrytoons made under Deitch's run were among my favorite to come out of New York's animation industry.

As for Chuck Jones, well, he himself admitted he never got it. Some nice poses here and there, but they aren't my favorites.
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Avaitor on July 24, 2011, 08:11:26 PM
Eh, I don't think the European arthouse take on the characters worked too well. The odd audio hooks were obnoxious most of the time, and it really feels like he wasn't into it at all.

And Jones' stuff just bores me. I love the man, but he couldn't come anywhere near close to Bill and Joe when it came to the duo.
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on July 24, 2011, 09:52:02 PM
Yeah, I love Chuck, but his Tom & Jerry material was just not very interesting to watch.
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Mr. Big on July 25, 2011, 09:41:28 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on July 24, 2011, 08:11:26 PM
Eh, I don't think the European arthouse take on the characters worked too well. The odd audio hooks were obnoxious most of the time, and it really feels like he wasn't into it at all.
Heh, yeah the sound effects were pretty weird. They were present in other cartoons Deitch did in Prague.

Thought I'd at least link this (http://www.awn.com/genedeitch/gene-deitch-how-succeed-animation/part-two-how-i-did-it/chapter-20-tom-jerry-first-reinca). Gene Deitch writes about working on "Tom and Jerry" and his feelings about them. He even gives his two cents on the Jones shorts.
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Commode on December 06, 2013, 12:04:29 PM
Cartoon Network aired the Tex Avery cartoon "The Counterfeit Cat" (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4jtbk_the-counterfeit-cat_fun%5Burl=http://"The%20Counterfeit%20Cat") as the last cartoon during the Tom and Jerry block today(it should be obvious that this is not a T&J cartoon).  I didn't get to see the whole hour of the block, but was this simply a mistake, or has the Tom and Jerry block turned into a more general MGM block as of late?  It'd be pretty cool if more Tex Avery shorts air on CN.
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Avaitor on December 06, 2013, 12:43:58 PM
Whoa, that's crazy.

First I've heard of something like this happening.
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Daikun on December 06, 2013, 04:45:11 PM
Tex Avery made better shorts at MGM than everyone else at the studio, IMO.

I'm okay with this.
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Avaitor on December 06, 2013, 04:57:58 PM
Quote from: Daikun on December 06, 2013, 04:45:11 PM
Tex Avery made better shorts at MGM than everyone else at the studio, IMO.

I'm okay with this.
I can't argue with that either. In fact, I've wanted CN to do this for a while, and I think it's cool that they finally are.

Are they still airing Looney Tunes right before? Because if so, that's a hell of a two hours of cartoons.
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Nameless on May 15, 2014, 10:38:12 PM
I always did like the shorts produced by Bill and Joe the best from a quality standpoint, but I admit to being a fan of Chuck Jones's shorts, in no small because I find them quite aesthetically appealing. Tom and Jerry have a very pleasing quasi-geometric look to them there.
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: hobbyfan on May 16, 2014, 01:46:35 PM
I liked some of the classic H-B shorts, but I absolutely love Chuck Jones' run. I may be in a minority here, but I was not a fan of Gene Deitch's run. Likewise, his run on Popeye wasn't spectacular, either.
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Avaitor on February 05, 2015, 11:17:45 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/10433007_799317773468022_2283162532280042783_n.jpg?oh=4fdfbb1d235394df7c44d348081c2d0f&oe=554B9D13&__gda__=1431520174_7e64fd4db9516ff1eb288a20eb5ad731)

So this is happening. I have no real desire to own these shorts, but the booklet looks like it'd be a good read. Still, we really need the second Golden Collection first.
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Daikun on April 16, 2015, 12:14:25 AM
WB is planning another theatrical film. (http://www.tracking-board.com/tb-exclusive-warner-bros-preparing-for-a-tom-and-jerry-feature-theatrical-film)

Hey, if it washes out the bad taste of that 90s movie, I'd support it.
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 16, 2015, 12:19:32 AM
I severely doubt anyone even remembers that movie.

Personally I just hope this won't be a pop culture gag fest like these revival movies have ended up being for like the last decade or so.
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: gunswordfist on April 16, 2015, 12:33:03 AM
I was about to say, "There was a '90s film?" unironically. I didn't click the link but I'd love to see a non-CG, non-live action movie.
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Avaitor on April 16, 2015, 12:43:36 AM
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 16, 2015, 12:33:03 AM
I was about to say, "There was a '90s film?" unironically. I didn't click the link but I'd love to see a non-CG, non-live action movie.
Good thing Warner makes one every year! :shakeshakeshake:
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Daikun on April 16, 2015, 02:54:47 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 16, 2015, 12:33:03 AMI was about to say, "There was a '90s film?" unironically.

(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fb%2Fb4%2FTom_and_Jerry_-_The_Movie_Poster.png&hash=920d2d98edcb503cdf95476378b932e2162a3a5f) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_and_Jerry:_The_Movie)

Proceed at your own risk.

QuoteI didn't click the link but I'd love to see a non-CG, non-live action movie.

The article says it'll be animated "in the vein of the source material."
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: gunswordfist on April 16, 2015, 03:07:30 PM
So basically it was a Disney ripoff. :whuh:
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Daikun on April 16, 2015, 03:39:07 PM
Yes, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: gunswordfist on April 16, 2015, 03:41:31 PM
 :'(
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Daikun on January 27, 2016, 12:49:46 AM
So, remember The Tom & Jerry Show that premiered on CN a while back?

It's getting a second season, and they're improving the animation! (http://www.fusionbomb.com/?p=922) Check out that link to see the changes between the first and second seasons.
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Daikun on November 17, 2020, 01:47:38 PM
Trailer for the new movie. (https://twitter.com/TomAndJerry/status/1328744719447437312)
Title: Re: Tom and Jerry
Post by: Daikun on February 27, 2021, 04:35:51 AM
The movie is out now in theaters and HBO Max.
The live-action parts are kinda shit, but the Tom & Jerry antics are great.
So, it's a mixed bag.

EDIT: Oh, and the soundtrack was poorly chosen. It's mostly rap music. How the fuck does that fit into Tom & Jerry?