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It's Revelation Time! => Cartoon Network => Topic started by: Peanutbutter on March 06, 2014, 05:27:45 PM

Title: Happy Ouweleen
Post by: Peanutbutter on March 06, 2014, 05:27:45 PM
Apparently the President of Cartoon Network has reached the end of his tenure.


http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/envelope/cotown/la-et-ct-turner-animation-head-stu-snyder-exiting-20140306,0,642714.story#axzz2vECE44GV
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Daikun on March 06, 2014, 06:29:26 PM
QuoteSnyder's departure comes in the wake of a new management regime taking the reins at Turner. In January, John Martin was promoted from chief financial officer of Time Warner to chief executive of Turner.

Huh. I guess that happened when no one was looking.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: gunswordfist on March 06, 2014, 07:05:21 PM
What does this mean for people who still watch CN?
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Silverstar on March 06, 2014, 08:16:36 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on March 06, 2014, 07:05:21 PM
What does this mean for people who still watch CN?

Too early to say; Snyder's replacement hasn't been named yet. Hopefully this will mean a greater diversity and variety of shows on CN, a Prez who realizes and acknowledges that the preteen boys aren't the only audience that matters, finally some corporate synergy between Turner and Warner Bros., and action cartoons not getting the red-headed stepchild treatment.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Peanutbutter on March 06, 2014, 08:49:19 PM
What I want to know is, like Daikun already mentioned, is that moron Jeff Bewkes gone too? That guy was a leech from that AOL/Time Warner merger. It'd be great if he got replaced by someone who values teamwork.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: hobbyfan on March 06, 2014, 08:57:40 PM
Good point, Peanutbutter. Snyder is only part of the problem. Sorcher is another part, and so is the synchronicity challenged Bewkes.

Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Daikun on March 06, 2014, 09:42:19 PM
Quote from: Peanutbutter on March 06, 2014, 08:49:19 PMWhat I want to know is, like Daikun already mentioned, is that moron Jeff Bewkes gone too? That guy was a leech from that AOL/Time Warner merger. It'd be great if he got replaced by someone who values teamwork.

He's still in charge, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Peanutbutter on March 06, 2014, 09:55:00 PM
Quote from: Daikun on March 06, 2014, 09:42:19 PM
Quote from: Peanutbutter on March 06, 2014, 08:49:19 PMWhat I want to know is, like Daikun already mentioned, is that moron Jeff Bewkes gone too? That guy was a leech from that AOL/Time Warner merger. It'd be great if he got replaced by someone who values teamwork.

He's still in charge, unfortunately.


Yeah, I already realized that as the president and CEO are different positions. Still, he could get the boot too if certain things happen.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: King Hippo on March 06, 2014, 10:58:15 PM
Cartoon Network and WB Animation need to merge. There's absolutely no reason for them to be separate.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: hobbyfan on March 09, 2014, 02:31:53 PM
Not so much merge, but rather work closer together. As long as Bewkes is in charge of the whole shebang at TW, it ain't gonna happen. He's gotta go.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Peanutbutter on March 16, 2014, 09:17:07 PM
I imagine it'll be next month or May when they'll announce Snyder's replacement. He's supposed to be done by the end of March, so I can't see his spot being vacant. I wonder who will replace him though? If it's Mike Lazzo, that would actually be a great idea.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Daikun on April 09, 2014, 05:55:02 PM
Two more people have stepped down. (http://kidscreen.com/2014/04/08/more-shakeups-at-turner-following-snyders-departure)
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Peanutbutter on June 27, 2014, 12:03:13 PM
Just bumping this because I think they still haven't named the gut replacing Snyder, am I correct? How long could it realistically be before they officially name someone?
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Daikun on July 16, 2014, 05:14:12 PM
A successor has been announced! Finally!

Christina Miller succeeds Stuart Snyder. (http://tinyurl.com/mvo7hu7)
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Peanutbutter on July 16, 2014, 09:30:19 PM
Wow, that's surprising a little that it's a young woman. She worked for them before on their home video department, so hopefully that means she'll know exactly what's up with their current lineup. Not sure if this means more CN shows with female leads, but the possibility of it might be increased. I'm interested in seeing what will be different when she settles in.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: gunswordfist on July 16, 2014, 10:18:30 PM
Quote from: Peanutbutter on July 16, 2014, 09:30:19 PM
Wow, that's surprising a little that it's a young woman. She worked for them before on their home video department, so hopefully that means she'll know exactly what's up with their current lineup. Not sure if this means more CN shows with female leads, but the possibility of it might be increased. I'm interested in seeing what will be different when she settles in.
Where's the Star brothers?
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Skeeter Valentine on July 19, 2014, 10:58:25 AM
Hopefully gone and never, ever coming back.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: gunswordfist on July 19, 2014, 12:40:43 PM
O.o
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Peanutbutter on July 19, 2014, 08:09:35 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on July 16, 2014, 10:18:30 PM
Quote from: Peanutbutter on July 16, 2014, 09:30:19 PM
Wow, that's surprising a little that it's a young woman. She worked for them before on their home video department, so hopefully that means she'll know exactly what's up with their current lineup. Not sure if this means more CN shows with female leads, but the possibility of it might be increased. I'm interested in seeing what will be different when she settles in.
Where's the Star brothers?


On Toon Zone. Weird that they've been around there more than here the last two weeks, but whatever.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Skeeter Valentine on July 20, 2014, 02:23:17 AM
Jave is gone for the most part, so they probably no longer feel they have to fear getting banned....again.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: gunswordfist on July 20, 2014, 02:30:45 AM
Just two weeks? I guess we simply just don't frequent the same threads.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: RacattackForce on July 26, 2014, 09:02:51 PM
Christina Miller, eh? Considering that she was the gal who helped push Ben 10 into the marketing juggernaut that it has managed to remain in the past nine years, I'll have to assume that her being in charge means finding more creative ways to leverage CN properties both old and new...which was basically what Snyder was doing for the past two years.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Peanutbutter on July 28, 2014, 05:17:45 PM
If she's the reason Ben 10 became a juggernaut, then I really hope that means she'll do whatever it takes to make sure any future action or comedy shows get full toy deals. And with good toy companies, since Bandai utterly sucks.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Peanutbutter on January 05, 2015, 09:57:01 PM
Well it's 2015, which means sooner or later we'll find out what Christina Miller's plans are for Cartoon Network. Likely around the Upfront conference later this year it should be more clear what she has in mind.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Daikun on July 20, 2015, 02:45:57 PM
Miller's slam at Stu's reign. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHjFWvQt5QU)
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Daikun on September 15, 2017, 10:52:14 PM
WGN Radio had an interview with Snyder. You can listen to it here. (http://wgnradio.com/2017/09/13/the-business-behind-cartoons)
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Daikun on November 27, 2019, 08:43:55 PM
Christina Miller is leaving CN by the end of the year. (https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/christina-miller-president-cartoon-network-warnermedia-departure-1203418284)
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Peanutbutter on August 30, 2020, 05:16:19 PM
Been a while since there's been major CN news, but I'd think this would count. Sam Register has taken over as head of Cartoon Network Studios. Rob Sorcher is switching over to production. I have no idea if this good news or bad news. Register has looked over both shows that were successes for the network and ones that burned out.


https://variety.com/2020/tv/news/sam-register-president-warner-bros-animation-cartoon-network-studios-rob-sorcher-1234752292/




Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Peanutbutter on January 05, 2021, 07:49:49 AM
Kind of odd that it's been a year since Christina Miller left, and yet Cartoon Network is still running under the same aesthetic. I guess part of that may be because of Covid, but I don't think I even know who the new CEO is????
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Avaitor on January 05, 2021, 04:31:07 PM
Normally it takes a year or so for a regime change to be felt on a channel, but it does seem like CN has been on autopilot for a while, hasn't it? The fact that they keep reairing Gumball and won't even greenlight the movie to finish it just astonishes me. It's like the show is still in limbo.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on January 05, 2021, 05:00:34 PM
I don't think Warner has any interest left in CN, since they only premiered one new non-AS show last year (https://twitter.com/nickandmore/status/1345177776995901440) and that died out as soon as it started. You can't even blame it on cable dying because Nick and Disney still premiered a handful of shows in 2020.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Avaitor on January 05, 2021, 05:20:07 PM
To be fair, Cartoon Network Studios had a couple of series ready, The Fungies and Tig n Seek, but they were sent to HBO Max. It was alarming to see only one new show air on the channel last year, and 2021 isn't looking a whole lot better for them.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Daikun on January 05, 2021, 07:34:35 PM
Quote from: Peanutbutter on January 05, 2021, 07:49:49 AMKind of odd that it's been a year since Christina Miller left, and yet Cartoon Network is still running under the same aesthetic. I guess part of that may be because of Covid, but I don't think I even know who the new CEO is????

Interestingly, CN went through TWO presidents in 2020.
The first was Michael Ouweleen, and he was only interim until they found a permanent replacement. Even though he handed over the reins to CN, he still runs Adult Swim.
The second is Tom Ascheim, who currently has a hand in both CN and Warner Bros.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Daxdiv on January 07, 2021, 07:05:46 AM
Quote from: Avaitor on January 05, 2021, 05:20:07 PM
To be fair, Cartoon Network Studios had a couple of series ready, The Fungies and Tig n Seek, but they were sent to HBO Max. It was alarming to see only one new show air on the channel last year, and 2021 isn't looking a whole lot better for them.
I don't even think we got a highlight reel of shows/things to expect for CN in 2021 like we did for previous years as well. Guess it does show low little attention CN has been getting. Funny part was when I decided to look it the things to look forward to in 2020 on CN, it did list Infinity Train... which went to HBO Max. Oops.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Peanutbutter on January 07, 2021, 03:55:39 PM
Well here's hoping whenever the pandemic and restrictions are lifted, CN gets a normal transition going. Could be why they don't have a full lineup planned yet.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Daikun on February 18, 2021, 11:21:45 PM
WarnerMedia released their huge programming slate yesterday, and I think it's safe to say the network will be safe in Tom Ascheim's hands.

https://pressroom.warnermedia.com/us/media-release/warnermedia/warnermedia-expands-kids-family-offerings-cartoon-network-and-hbo-max-under-new

-Ben 10 is once again crossing over with Generator Rex.
-Total Drama Island (yes, the original series) is coming back for two new seasons.
-Infinity Train Book Four
-Tiny Toons Looniversity
-Gumball is getting a finale movie.
-Cartoonito makes its U.S. debut.
-Craig of the Creek is getting a 4th season and a spinoff.
-New Genndy Tartakovsky series: Unicorn: Warriors Eternal.
-Teen Titans Go! is getting a spinoff series based on its most popular episode, "The Night Begins to Shine."

These are just the highlights. There's a lot more in this press release.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Daxdiv on February 19, 2021, 09:45:07 AM
I'm looking forward to The Night Begins to Shine spin-off, since those episodes were always pretty good watches. Along with Gumball getting that finale movie, so now that the final episode doesn't feel like a huge tease. Kinda surprised to see Total Drama going back to it's roots, cause I'm kinda used to it's Spin-off Babies show.

The other thing I do find interesting is CN having another crack at making a preschool block. I don't mind CN having a block for preschoolers, since I think we can all agree that CN's schedule is the most boring/stagnant out of the major kids networks with it's constant Gumball and TTG reruns, at least Disney Jr and Nick Jr have some interesting shows on their block. The only thing I will find funny is the transition from Adult Swim to Cartoonito. Imagine watching whatever airs at 5 AM slot and then going to a preschool aimed show.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Peanutbutter on February 19, 2021, 11:14:42 PM
Looking forward to Genndy's Unicorn show. Hope it gets a decent shot as it will be nice to have action on Cartoon Network again after half a decade. Jade Armor sounds really cool, too. Not sure about that Gross Girls thing they mentioned, but if it manages to be funny I'll watch it. Also a nice surprise they're doing the Tiny Toons reboot since I thought they would put it on HBO Max.

Overall, that's a pretty decent variety. And that's without their preschool block. I have no idea if it will be any more successful than Tick U, but as Daxdiv pointed out it will at least break up the monotony of Teen Titans Go and Gumball reruns that have dominated the schedule too long. I don't know how TT Go's airings have been doing in the ratings lately, but far as I know Cartoon Network overall has still been very low. Maybe the new guy can give it a shot in the arm for the new decade.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Peanutbutter on April 24, 2021, 02:42:23 PM
Looks like there's a possibility of Cartoon Network being merged with HBO Max, as [as] seemingly has been already. Thoughts?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A5qvx3FyGps
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Daikun on May 11, 2022, 08:08:21 PM
...and now Ascheim is gone. (https://deadline.com/2022/05/tom-ascheim-exits-warner-bros-president-global-kids-young-adults-and-classics-1235021790) Thanks, Discovery!
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Avaitor on May 12, 2022, 04:53:48 PM
That didn't last long at all.

Ascheim was kind of a mixed bag. He was trying new things for the channel, or at least helped to make the daytime half more than just TTG and Gumball all day. I'm not sure if Cartoonito and Acme Night have been major successes, but they're something. But I didn't love his reliance on live-action for a lot of it, especially when they got the rights to Degrassi.

Still, he was in the process of some interesting changes for CN, and I hope that we lose as few of those series in development as possible.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Peanutbutter on May 12, 2022, 05:36:33 PM
He barely even got started, so I don't know if its good that Ascheim leaving is a good thing or not. Like Avaitor said, he was at least trying to put variety in the schedule. But he was also putting live-action stuff back on which Cartoon Network doesn't need at all. Hoping whomever Discovery brings in will do a good job. It'd be nice to get someone that gives action shows a chance by putting advertising for them. Or at least focuses on making more than one hit cartoon.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Avaitor on May 12, 2022, 06:45:32 PM
I'll admit that I've softened my opinion on live-action on CN. I don't mind movies airing that fit with the channel's vibe, which Acme Night mostly seems to have followed. At least, I think that airing DC and Star Wars movies are better fits than Crazy Rich Asians.

As for originals or TBS simulcasts? Eh, again, it depends on how they fit. I don't think that Cartoon Network should be trying to recreate Disney Channel's content, but I'd like to see a better fit for the channel than CN Real.

I just don't see how Degrassi can work on CN in this reality, though.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on May 12, 2022, 08:19:19 PM
Yeah, forgot they're doing Degrassi. Why would that work? Kids don't know what Degrassi is since the last show ended about 5 years ago. The fans won't care unless their favorite character shows up for an episode. The franchise's premise isn't unique enough that you couldn't just make up a new high school teen drama entirely. I guess it's so the parents who grew up on one of the many Degrassi shows can go "Hey, it's that thing I recognize! I'll show that to my kid!", but Discovery's got a big enough library that they could have done that with plenty of other IPs. It's gonna be like how the new Saved by the Bell died after only 2 seasons.

And I don't know about live-action on CN. It's not that it's inherently bad by any means, but there's no point copying other channels when those same kids can just watch those other channels. I never understood why CN Real tried so hard at making knockoffs of Mythbusters or Ghost Hunters when any kid can watch the genuine articles. Any cable package that had CN would also have Discovery Channel or any one of the other networks that churn out reality TV content.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Daikun on May 14, 2022, 06:26:23 AM
Michael Ouweleen, who temporarily ran CN before being replaced by Ascheim and solely focusing on running Adult Swim, is running CN again. (https://deadline.com/2022/05/warner-bros-discovery-nancy-daniels-to-oversee-t-nets-kathleen-finch-1235023484)

QuoteMichael Ouweleen, who runs Cartoon Network, Adult Swim and Boomerang, will continue in that role and will report to Finch with Amy Friedman, who was head of kids and family programming at Warner Bros., and her team reporting to Ouweleen.
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on December 07, 2022, 07:00:28 PM
Saw a lot of talk about Ouweleen on Twitter, based off this interview he gave. (https://variety.com/2022/tv/news/cartoon-network-warner-bros-discovery-animation-batwheels-1235453151/)
Title: Re: Stuart Snyder steps down
Post by: Daikun on December 07, 2022, 11:54:21 PM
Do you think it's time we change the thread title? CN has gone through quite a rotating door of presidents since this thread was started.
Title: Re: Happy Ouweleen
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on December 08, 2022, 12:17:23 AM
Yeah, Snyder's been gone for 8 years.
Title: Re: Happy Ouweleen
Post by: Peanutbutter on December 08, 2022, 05:42:21 PM
Huh, forgot I'm the OP of this thread. Yeah Snyder went away a while ago so title change was long overdue.


Ouweleen's comments were intriguing. I just hope he keeps live action shows away from CN. Bad enough they're still going to be doing live movies still for however long.
Title: Re: Happy Ouweleen
Post by: Avaitor on December 10, 2022, 01:51:46 PM
Eh, a little live-action here and there is fine IMO, at least when it comes to airing movies. I'd prefer if they don't make live-action originals, and I think it's for the best that they dropped their plans for Degrassi.
Title: Re: Happy Ouweleen
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on December 10, 2022, 03:59:20 PM
I still don't see the overlap between Degrassi fans and CN viewers.