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Title: E3 2017
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 08, 2017, 08:47:12 PM
It's that time of year again, people. E3's back!

This means new games, new announcements, and possibly overbearing memes that will still be referenced a decade from now. This is also your reminder that E3 begins next week, so keep your calendar's marked!

Help make this thread your one stop shop for all E3 related news and announcements, same as every year.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 08, 2017, 09:43:50 PM
Devil May Cry 5: Unlikely, but possible.

Ninja Gaiden 4: Nearly zero chance of being announced this early.

Platinum: Will be curious to see what they're working on.

Everything else is crap. Anything else anyone is looking forward to will inevitably be a disappointment and suck. Everyone but me has shit taste in gaming and only my opinions matter, and the only games worth mentioning are the ones that I care about. Everything else just caters to pansy-ass casuals who want to watch a bad movie with occasional button-prompts and can't bother to "git gud" at games, and anything by Nintendo is just watered down tripe for babies and man-children.

In short: I'm amazing and important, and all y'all are some bitches. Peace out, you plebs. :>

....But seriously, though, I'm so out of touch with current gaming news that I have no idea what games are in development right now. I quite literally don't know what to expect.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Foggle on June 08, 2017, 11:04:39 PM
I'm pretty jazzed to see footage of that Insomniac Spider-Man game. Hoping it can live up to my nostalgia for the PS1 games and Spider-Man 2 on PS2.

Hopefully we'll finally hear something about Tango's (Shinji Mikami's studio's) new game.

Devil May Cry, Dragon's Dogma, Rival Schools - whatever it is, I hope Itsuno announces his team's new game.

Of course, I'm always excited to see whatever new thing Platinum is working on. Maybe Scalebound salvaged and rebranded as Drakengard 4? ;)

It's probably too early but I'm already on the edge of my seat waiting for whatever Arkane does next.

Some news about the Resident Evil 7 story DLC or Resident Evil 2 remake would be nice.

Looking forward to seeing what improvements Sonic Forces makes over Colors/Generations.

I don't have a Switch but I'd gladly devour some proper Mario Odyssey footage. Maybe Suda51 will actually have some concrete info about No More Heroes 3 as well.

Hoping IO can shed some light on what will become of Hitman now that Square Enix is dumping them.

I hear Splinter Cell 7 is pretty far along in development (with Michael Ironside returning). The Ubisoft conferences are always painful but I might watch just for that. Oh, and Beyond Good & Evil 2 (lol).

Honestly, what I want most of all are remasters of every Drakengard/Nier and main series Ratchet & Clank game for PS4. I know that's kind of boring, but I need more people to experience the original Nier, plus I would love to play Drakengard 3 at something resembling a stable frame rate; meanwhile, the PS3 HD collection of R&C was rather imperfect, introducing many new bugs and glitches that frustrate me as a childhood fan, but the PS2 versions are hard to return to because they don't run as smoothly and they don't look as colorful in SD (also, TOD and ITN would greatly benefit from a some extra polish and improved hardware).
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: gunswordfist on June 08, 2017, 11:30:10 PM
Ironside's returning!!!!! :swoon: :shakeshakeshake: :worship:
DMC5 is at the top of my list, as always. I'm so far behind games that I don't really have much else to add.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Foggle on June 08, 2017, 11:59:24 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on June 08, 2017, 11:30:10 PM
Ironside's returning!!!!! :swoon: :shakeshakeshake: :worship:
It's just a rumor, but I believe it! ;D Been catching up on the old games to prepare. The first two are damn hard. Can't believe I actually managed to beat the original.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Mustang on June 09, 2017, 03:01:37 PM
Not much I'm looking forward to at the moment.

I'm interested in the Spider-Man game, but that's pretty much it right now. Namco and ASW are collaborating apparently for a DBZ title, so I'll be curious to see how that turns out. Other than that, yeah, nothing. As for DMC5, right now I have no confidence in Capcom. If it is revealed I need gameplay footage.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 09, 2017, 03:06:30 PM
I don't trust Capcom as a publisher, but in terms of developers, I have complete trust in Itsuno and his team to make something great despite the bull-shit limitations that Capcom enforces on them.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 09, 2017, 04:31:07 PM
The ASW Dragon Ball fighter has me interested. I almost wish Shueisha could have gotten an All Star Jump game out of them instead, but you can't go wrong with a good DB fighter.

My expectations are pretty low this year, but I expect at least a game or two to strike my fancy.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 09, 2017, 04:44:27 PM
Didn't ASW already make a DBZ fighting game that wasn't very well received?

As for a Shonen Jump All-Stars game, it'd be neat if Itsuno directed a fighting game with those characters, what with his previous experience in the genre with games like Capcom Vs. SNK and Rival Schools.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Rynnec on June 09, 2017, 04:49:49 PM
I'd love for ASW to make a Castlevania fighter, or even an HD Castlevania game in general. Too bad Konami's too shit for that to happen (even if they do seem to be slowly learning how to suck less). None the less the prospect of a DB ArcSys game has me optimistic, I wonder if it'll end up being as notoriously broken as their Fist of the North Star game. :sly:

Only things I'm really hoping for this year is DMC5, more Darksiders 3 footage, and mayyyyybe a Smash 4 Switch port. My gaming taste has gotten pretty weebish these last few years, so I doubt any games I'm already anticipating will be at E3.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Mustang on June 09, 2017, 05:59:08 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 09, 2017, 04:44:27 PM
Didn't ASW already make a DBZ fighting game that wasn't very well received?

The 3DS game? I've never played fighting games on portable consoles and I don't want to make it sound like they shouldn't exist or anything, but an ASW game on the 3DS, considering the depth involved just screams no. That nonsense of an answer set aside, anime fighters are already niche to begin with, to put them on a 3DS when your core group is/was on the ps3 at the time. The mentality of the FGC (I suppose they're working on it) don't really acknowledge Nintendo to begin with (and if you read comments you can sense that both the FGC and Smash community would rather part ways). And then we fast forward to now, I haven't been watching anything anime related, but I'm well aware of Dragon Ball Super, so it make sense for them to capitalize now.

Edit: Just looked at the date that DBZ game came out. 2015. Oh shit. PS4 days. In the words of one of them Capcom reps, it got left behind.

http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/215189/dragon-ball-fighters-announced-2-5d-3v3-and-made-by-arcsys

In case people want to see it for themselves.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: gunswordfist on June 09, 2017, 07:28:14 PM
...there's Darksiders 3 footage?
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Rynnec on June 09, 2017, 08:27:10 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on June 09, 2017, 07:28:14 PM
...there's Darksiders 3 footage?

It's pre-alpha, but yeah, there's 12 minutes worth. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk_D2NSdOvA)
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: gunswordfist on June 09, 2017, 09:39:39 PM
Thank ya!
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Peanutbutter on June 09, 2017, 11:39:55 PM
I just want at least one if not several shocking announcements that makes the room shake like FF7 Remake's announcement. Regardless of how good it ends up being (and hopefully its good), the utter joy that erupted was a sight to behold.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: gunswordfist on June 09, 2017, 11:51:10 PM
God, I loved the crazy hype that FF7 Remake got. Square Enix and Sony had the best E3 since PS2/Xbox era that year.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 09, 2017, 11:56:32 PM
Quote from: Mustang on June 09, 2017, 05:59:08 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 09, 2017, 04:44:27 PM
Didn't ASW already make a DBZ fighting game that wasn't very well received?

The 3DS game? I've never played fighting games on portable consoles and I don't want to make it sound like they shouldn't exist or anything, but an ASW game on the 3DS, considering the depth involved just screams no. That nonsense of an answer set aside, anime fighters are already niche to begin with, to put them on a 3DS when your core group is/was on the ps3 at the time. The mentality of the FGC (I suppose they're working on it) don't really acknowledge Nintendo to begin with (and if you read comments you can sense that both the FGC and Smash community would rather part ways). And then we fast forward to now, I haven't been watching anything anime related, but I'm well aware of Dragon Ball Super, so it make sense for them to capitalize now.

Edit: Just looked at the date that DBZ game came out. 2015. Oh shit. PS4 days. In the words of one of them Capcom reps, it got left behind.

http://forums.shoryuken.com/discussion/215189/dragon-ball-fighters-announced-2-5d-3v3-and-made-by-arcsys

In case people want to see it for themselves.
Fighting games made specifically for portables are never above mediocre. But this game looks like it's using he same trick ASW used with Guilty Gear in their 3D models that look like sprites. They're going all out on this.

(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg1.ak.crunchyroll.com%2Fi%2Fspire2%2F0f48d7888d4c82ee3fac5ef844c6684e1497026959_full.jpg&hash=dedd84520a1f146abf242876a572213ac8603731)

Stuff like this is why I'm rarely impressed with graphics anymore. How do you better that?
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 10, 2017, 02:07:47 AM
Yeah, not going to lie, as soon as I saw that screen-shot my hype levels went from practically zero to through the roof. A 2.5D Dragon Ball game using the GGXrd engine with cell-shaded graphics that look that gorgeously authentic to Akira Toriyama's character designs? It's the Dream DB game that I've always wanted. Everyone else can have the Xenoverse games as their go to DB game. But personally this more technical style fighter is right up my alley. The fact that it's 3v3 also indicates that they will be directly competing with Marvel Vs. Capcom Infinite as a team-based fighter (unless this is KOF style teams).

The only bad part is that now I have to sink over a hundred dollars into getting a decent arcade stick for the PS4, since none of the fight-pads available for this console seem like they suit me at all (the Mad Catz pad for the X360 and PS3 was nearly perfect, so I have no idea why they fucked it up so badly for this gen's version).
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Mustang on June 10, 2017, 09:23:57 AM
hori fight pad (https://www.amazon.com/PS4-PS3-PC-compatible-Fighting-commander/dp/B017QORK8W/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1497104358&sr=8-3&keywords=hori+fighting+commander)

In case you don't actually want to switch to a fight stick.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 10, 2017, 09:44:48 AM
I've looked into that one, but my issue is that it's a standard d-pad instead of a floating d-pad, the latter of which feels a lot more natural for me to pull off circular motions with relative ease and consistency.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Foggle on June 11, 2017, 01:27:49 AM
Oh baby yes, it's happening!!!

(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FTqlH2SB.png&hash=b8f5adba0efb64e5524332254672bf98928c6042)

Guess I'll definitely be watching the Bethesda conference tomorrow.

Also, the EA conference sucked. Only A Way Out looked at all interesting IMO. Lots of YouTuber cringe, too.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: gunswordfist on June 11, 2017, 01:30:44 AM
They already started with the press conferences?  :wth:
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Foggle on June 11, 2017, 01:36:17 AM
Quote from: gunswordfist on June 11, 2017, 01:30:44 AM
They already started with the press conferences?  :wth:
Only EA's was today and all you missed was lots of annual sports nonsense and Battlefront 2. Ubisoft's, Bethesda's, and Devolver's are happening tomorrow. Ubisoft's will probably suck as usual but I'll be watching in case the Splinter Cell 7 rumor is true. Bethesda's is gonna be awesome with The Evil Within 2, Wolfenstein: The New Colossus, and (hopefully) some Prey or Dishonored 2 DLC. Not sure what Devolver's will entail but they're easily my favorite publisher, releasing indie hit after indie hit, so I'll be sure to watch that one too.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Foggle on June 11, 2017, 09:47:54 AM
My mistake, Microsoft's is today, not Ubisoft's. Ubisoft's is tomorrow.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: gunswordfist on June 11, 2017, 11:08:16 AM
Quote from: Foggle on June 11, 2017, 09:47:54 AM
My mistake, Microsoft's is today, not Ubisoft's. Ubisoft's is tomorrow.
Oh, thank goodness. I'm always a gluttony for punishment with Ubisoft, hoping that they finally announce more than 2 games that I want  :worship:
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Mustang on June 11, 2017, 01:48:12 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on June 11, 2017, 11:08:16 AM
Quote from: Foggle on June 11, 2017, 09:47:54 AM
My mistake, Microsoft's is today, not Ubisoft's. Ubisoft's is tomorrow.
Oh, thank goodness. I'm always a gluttony for punishment with Ubisoft, hoping that they finally announce more than 2 games that I want  :worship:

Trust me. You're not the only one considering I'm actually a fan of the Assassin's Creed series and I wanted them to succeed with The Division but they just had to make that game one of them online experience types instead of a single player type of game.

Going back to my previous statement of what game I'm looking forward to. I'd like to see where the progression is at when it comes to Shenmue 3 and perhaps gameplay footage of DBZ fighters.

Edit:

This Microsoft Press Conference is a joke.

Edit 2:

DBZ Fighters looks impressive, but I need to see more.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 11, 2017, 04:53:20 PM
Holy shit! :o

I didn't expect the new Dragon Ball game to be revealed at the Microsoft Press conference of all things. The game looks fucking gorgeous in motion. Definitely my most anticipated fighting game of next year (so far).
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: gunswordfist on June 11, 2017, 05:54:05 PM
Another year, another mostly unimpressive E3 from Microsoft. But Xbox One still has much more games that are worth buying than Switch does.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Mustang on June 11, 2017, 06:01:14 PM
So Microsoft is bringing back the old Xbox library. The only games I remember on there is Ninja Gaiden Black and Halo 1-2 and, well, Halo 1 and 2 already have Anniversary titles. So the only game that may be worth looking into is Ninja Gaiden Black.

That being said Microsoft might need to make Anthem an exclusive title and not that timed release BS. They need something to make consumers grab the X1X.

Speaking of which, I like what I saw with Anthem. I mean, I love the Mass Effect series so I'm coming in a little bias (having not experienced Mass Effect Andromeda yet)

I don't know if I would say Microsoft failed, but they most certainly didn't impress me. Most of the games they showed were not for me.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: gunswordfist on June 11, 2017, 06:09:41 PM
Same. It'll still be a while before I got an Xbone. But then again PS4 still need to do some convincing so basically it'll be 360 and PC until maybe later this year for me.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Foggle on June 11, 2017, 08:44:53 PM
Metro 2033 was a great game so I'm excited for Exodus. Still haven't played Last Light, though; gotta' get around to that soon. The rest of the games they showed didn't particularly interest me, unfortunately.

Quote from: gunswordfist on June 11, 2017, 06:09:41 PM
Same. It'll still be a while before I got an Xbone. But then again PS4 still need to do some convincing so basically it'll be 360 and PC until maybe later this year for me.
I think Nier (the PC port isn't great), Nioh, Ratchet & Clank, and Yakuza are all reason enough to get a PS4 over an Xbone!
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 11, 2017, 08:53:19 PM
It's basically the same with me. While I'm glad that Microsoft is FINALLY putting a lot more emphasis on exclusives (mind you that most are technically also available for Windows so they aren't console exclusives), and unlike their horrendous press conferences of the past wisely decided to put far more focus on showcasing actual video games, the fact remains that most of the games that they were previewing just aren't up my alley. Metro and DBZ were the most interesting things they had on the stage, and both of those will be coming out on the PS4 anyways.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 11, 2017, 09:46:31 PM
Only games to really interest me so far is the DBZ fighter and the Wolfenstein game. It's going to make the wait harder for a gaming PC, but still nothing that makes me want a PS4 or XBone yet.

Here's hoping for more interesting stuff to come.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 11, 2017, 09:57:01 PM
I'll grant you that the PC is easily the best way to go for any console generation, but I'd argue that the PS4 already has a strong line-up of excellent exclusives as it is.

Speaking of which, what time is Sony's conference tomorrow? I may or may not have to miss it due to work.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 11, 2017, 11:39:32 PM
They just showed Wolfenstein II. Out this October. Looks awesome like all id shooters tend to.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Foggle on June 11, 2017, 11:48:51 PM
This Wolfenstein 2 trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xHht8480cEo) is one of the greatest things I've ever seen. I have no words for how good it is. I'm in tears.

This, Evil Within 2, and the Dishonored DLC(?) are all gonna be amazing.

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 11, 2017, 09:57:01 PM
Speaking of which, what time is Sony's conference tomorrow? I may or may not have to miss it due to work.
6 PM Pacific time.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: gunswordfist on June 12, 2017, 12:09:53 AM
Quote from: Foggle on June 11, 2017, 08:44:53 PM
I think Nier (the PC port isn't great), Nioh, Ratchet & Clank, and Yakuza are all reason enough to get a PS4 over an Xbone!
lol, I have PS4 way ahead of Xbone. That's not what I meant.
I need to play the first The Evil Within.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Peanutbutter on June 12, 2017, 09:54:30 AM
What days and times this week are Sony's and Nintendo's? I imagine Nintendo's will probably be last like usual but I really want to know when to tune into their streams.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 12, 2017, 11:17:24 AM
Nintendo's is 11:30am EST tomorrow.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 12, 2017, 12:53:19 PM
New Sonic Forces gameplay has been revealed. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEACKYriwD0)

Edit: Here they are. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQsM2AdKGh0)
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Peanutbutter on June 12, 2017, 01:31:48 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 12, 2017, 11:17:24 AM
Nintendo's is 11:30am EST tomorrow.


Ah, that's a surprise, thanks man!  ;)
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: gunswordfist on June 12, 2017, 02:41:52 PM
Sony is probably going to win E3 yet again
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 12, 2017, 04:11:50 PM
Mario Rabbids Kingdom Battle was revealed. (http://gonintendo.com/stories/282416-rabbids-mario-kingdom-battle-stage-presentation-footage-behi)

It actually looks really fun. It's like SMRPG meets XCom. Really fun looking battle system.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: gunswordfist on June 12, 2017, 04:19:25 PM
Beyond Good & Evil 2 saved Ubisoft this year.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Peanutbutter on June 12, 2017, 04:26:57 PM
Was at Wonder Woman with my mom and brother. Just heard the news about Beyond Good and Evil. Well done Ubisoft, you finally had a good E3 showing!


Can't wait to see the trailer. Still need to play it again, got near the ending but got stuck and never finished.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 12, 2017, 04:31:05 PM
Well, at least they had two interesting games this year. Ubi usually has none. So points for improvements!
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: gunswordfist on June 12, 2017, 05:14:38 PM
They usually do have about 2. There probably is so much failed potential at these E3s.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Foggle on June 12, 2017, 09:13:21 PM
Sony's conference was awful. If Spider-Man wasn't being made by Insomniac that footage would have made me lose all interest in it. The rest of the games looked lame too, especially Marvel vs. Capcom.

I can't believe Bethesda might win E3.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 12, 2017, 09:16:14 PM
Well, what an interesting line-up of movie trailers that Sony brought us this year. :>

But, seriously, AAA gaming just doesn't interest me in the slightest anymore. I was utterly bored throughout most of that presentation, with just the slightest hope that a new DMC game might be announced, but of course it's the twentieth Monster Hunter game.

I'll grant you that there will likely be some smaller titles that didn't make the main show which catch my interest, but a majority of the big budget stuff just left me feeling cold, personally.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 12, 2017, 09:21:03 PM
Quote from: Foggle on June 12, 2017, 09:13:21 PM
Sony's conference was awful. If Spider-Man wasn't being made by Insomniac that footage would have made me lose all interest in it. The rest of the games looked lame too, especially Marvel vs. Capcom.

I can't believe Bethesda might win E3.

That Spider-Man game looks like yet another uninspired Arkham knockoff, and we all know how tired that series has gotten.

And most of my excitement for MVCI was lost when I realized that it would be scaling back to a 2V2 set-up, and then the reveal of DBFZ's amazing gameplay footage pretty much killed off any remaining interest that I had in the game. Despite this, I'll still probably pick it up because I'm a sucker for anything with Dante in it.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Foggle on June 12, 2017, 09:25:23 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 12, 2017, 09:16:14 PM
Well, what an interesting line-up of movie trailers that Sony brought us this year. :>
Seriously. Almost no gameplay footage to be seen, and what little there was looked like on-rails tripe (quite literally in the case of some of the VR games).

QuoteBut, seriously, AAA gaming just doesn't interest me in the slightest anymore. I was utterly bored throughout most of that presentation, with just the slightest hope that a new DMC game might be announced, but of course it's the twentieth Monster Hunter game.
But what about The Last of Us 2 I mean Days Gone? It looks very inspired and not at all boring!

QuoteI'll grant you that there will likely be some smaller titles that didn't make the main show which catch my interest, but a majority of the big budget stuff just left me feeling cold, personally.
Honestly, the most interesting looking game for me was the one with the cute mouse protagonist... until I realized it was a point & click VR title and not a platforming adventure. :-\ :-\ :-\

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 12, 2017, 09:21:03 PM
That Spider-Man game looks like yet another uninspired Arkham knockoff, and we all know how tired that series has gotten.
The moment I saw the Arkham combat system rear its disgusting head I immediately uttered "oh no" like that fucking Knuckles meme. And the QTEs, too... :srs:
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 12, 2017, 09:27:44 PM
Oh, and then there's the new God of War. I recently played GoW3, and to be blunt, I'm not a fan. But at least I can definitively call that a real video game. The fact that this new one got so many loud cheers is part of the reason I have become so distant from the mainstream gaming community. Once again, go watch TGBS's video on the reveal from last year. It's disheartening to see that this is the direction that people want gaming to move in.

If anyone enjoyed this stuff, then I'm happy for you, but personally this E3 has been strangely depressing for me, even though I'm technically only getting exactly what I expected going into it. I guess I've just been burned one too many times from unrealistically getting my hopes up.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: gunswordfist on June 12, 2017, 09:33:57 PM
Quote from: Foggle on June 12, 2017, 09:13:21 PM
Sony's conference was awful. If Spider-Man wasn't being made by Insomniac that footage would have made me lose all interest in it. The rest of the games looked lame too, especially Marvel vs. Capcom.

I can't believe Bethesda might win E3.
I can't even remember when Bethesda showed but you're probably right. Ubi had a CG trailer save them and I literally forgot I watched MS' press conference after I googled to check what time it came on today. :D
On topic, what a movie game Spider-Man seems to be. And the combat was sssslllllllllllllooooooooooooowwwwwwwwwwwwww. that was the first foul. That and stealth for no reason. You are SPIDER-MAN! Bullets and people can't hit you. There are no hostages. Punch faces. I can't believe Insomniac has failed me (so far).
I actually thought the MVCI trailer was interesting..but trailer. And no X-Men. Used game purchase at best.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 12, 2017, 09:39:06 PM
Quote from: Foggle on June 12, 2017, 09:25:23 PMSeriously. Almost no gameplay footage to be seen, and what little there was looked like on-rails tripe (quite literally in the case of some of the VR games).

But Foggle, clearly you are missing the greater picture here of how video games as an art form are really about horribly aping popular movie cliches constructing compelling narratives with interactive button prompts guiding players of any skill level along. I mean, just look at prentious drivel captivating examples like Detroit.

QuoteBut what about The Last of Us 2 I mean Days Gone? It looks very inspired and not at all boring!

Why didn't they just show TLOU2 footage? Even if the gameplay was unfinished, it's not like they were interested in showing off any gameplay to begin with, and I'm sure Naughty Dog could have spared them another thirty seconds of pre-rendered CG footage that probably would have gone over better than what they did show of this new game, which will inevitably only draw comparisons to TLOU to begin with.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Dreamer2 on June 12, 2017, 09:40:39 PM
I haven't watched anything from Sony's conference get, but I like the sound of Detroit (I know it was announced a while ago, but I'm super behind in the gaming world for a couple of reasons). I'll have to see if anything else catches my attention.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Rynnec on June 12, 2017, 09:46:38 PM
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 12, 2017, 09:21:03 PM

And most of my excitement for MVCI was lost when I realized that it would be scaling back to a 2V2 set-up, and then the reveal of DBFZ's amazing gameplay footage pretty much killed off any remaining interest that I had in the game. Despite this, I'll still probably pick it up because I'm a sucker for anything with Dante in it.

I honestly much prefer the 2v2 set up of MVC1 and Tastunoko vs Capcom to UMvC3's cluterfuck. The problem I have with MVCI is of course its bland roster and horrible graphics. Only things that got me hype in that entire trailer were Dante and Zero returning.

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 12, 2017, 09:27:44 PM
Oh, and then there's the new God of War. I recently played GoW3, and to be blunt, I'm not a fan. But at least I can definitively call that a real video game. The fact that this new one got so many loud cheers is part of the reason I have become so distant from the mainstream gaming community. Once again, go watch TGBS's video on the reveal from last year. It's disheartening to see that this is the direction that people want gaming to move in.

If anyone enjoyed this stuff, then I'm happy for you, but personally this E3 has been strangely depressing for me, even though I'm technically only getting exactly what I expected going into it. I guess I've just been burned one too many times from unrealistically getting my hopes up.

I had a less than stellar experience with the first GoW as you probably remember, and GoW2 is okay at best, but even still that trailer for Dad of War is not what I want out of a GoW. The combat looks even slower than ever, and the gore, arguably the one saving grace of the series, has been seriously toned down because..fuck if I know. Kratos being somewhat bearable for once is a change I welcome, but if this is the direction they're taking the series, I'd much rather play as the kid or Kratos' wife and get rid of the GoW name altogether.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 12, 2017, 09:47:20 PM
You guys said everything I was going to. For the longest time I thought Sony forgot they were at E3 2017 and brought footage from last year to show. There was nothing at all that interested me. At least Microsoft had DBZ, Ubi had Mario x Rabbids, and Bethesda had Wolfenstein II.

Was so let down by Spiderman being Arkham Asylum with QTEs. I'll probably end up playing it eventually, but that was disappointing. Insomniac is better than that.

Nintendo tomorrow, and we can wrap this E3 up. Not very impressive overall.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: gunswordfist on June 12, 2017, 09:50:43 PM
I was half watching...Dante returned?
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 12, 2017, 09:47:20 PM
You guys said everything I was going to. For the longest time I thought Sony forgot they were at E3 2017 and brought footage from last year to show. There was nothing at all that interested me. At least Microsoft had DBZ, Ubi had Mario x Rabbids, and Bethesda had Wolfenstein II.

Was so let down by Spiderman being Arkham Asylum with QTEs. I'll probably end up playing it eventually, but that was disappointing. Insomniac is better than that.

Nintendo tomorrow, and we can wrap this E3 up. Not very impressive overall.
Oh right, MS had DBFZ. I forgot since they aren't publishing or developing it. :D
Looks like Sonic Mania, Cuphead and DBFZ are my only top anticipated games that I plan on buying in the near future...not that I was going to buy a console anyway. :D
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 12, 2017, 09:52:28 PM
I personally prefer the craziness of MVC2 and 3, though mind you I never attempted to play them competitively. I was always really casual with those games. I was honestly never a big fan of MVC1 despite owning it on the Dreamcast. It just felt way too slow for me to go back to after playing MVC2.

I could live with 2V2, and the graphics don't bother me that much (I mean, KOF 14 got away with worse), but I absolutely do love the hyper-speed battles and insanity of this franchise, and in comparison Infinite just looks so sluggish in comparison.

That's just my two cents on it, anyways. I could be being unfair here, and like I said I still plan to play the full game, but my enthusiasm has really died down for this title the more of it that gets revealed.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Foggle on June 12, 2017, 09:53:43 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on June 12, 2017, 09:33:57 PMUbi had a CG trailer save them
Apparently Beyond Good & Evil 2 is going to be a multiplayer GTA-style sandbox prequel. Keep in mind that the original was a genre-mixing linear single-player action-adventure title that ended on a cliffhanger. :butbut:

Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 12, 2017, 09:39:06 PM
But Foggle, clearly you are missing the greater picture here of how video games as an art form are really about horribly aping popular movie cliches constructing compelling narratives with interactive button prompts guiding players of any skill level along. I mean, just look at prentious drivel captivating examples like Detroit.
BLARGH

I don't mind lots of story in my games but aping Hollywood films and calling it a day will never not be tiring to me. All the trailers for Detroit so far have made me laugh and Heavy Rain was an excellent The Room-style comedy so I'm sure I'll get some enjoyment out of that one, at least.

QuoteWhy didn't they just show TLOU2 footage? Even if the gameplay was unfinished, it's not like they were interested in showing off any gameplay to begin with, and I'm sure Naughty Dog could have spared them another thirty seconds of pre-rendered CG footage that probably would have gone over better than what they did show of this new game, which will inevitably only draw comparisons to TLOU to begin with.
I just have no idea who they think cares about Days Gone. I've never seen anyone act at all excited about it. Even the live audience didn't seem to give a shit.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 12, 2017, 09:47:20 PM
Was so let down by Spiderman being Arkham Asylum with QTEs. I'll probably end up playing it eventually, but that was disappointing. Insomniac is better than that.
They could have at least redeemed themselves by announcing Ratchet & Clank PS4 remasters afterward. :cry:
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 12, 2017, 09:57:51 PM
2v2 or 3v3, I don't care as long as the game is fun. DBFZ looks fun. MvCI does not. Simple as.

Quote from: Foggle on June 12, 2017, 09:53:43 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on June 12, 2017, 09:33:57 PMUbi had a CG trailer save them
Apparently Beyond Good & Evil 2 is going to be a multiplayer GTA-style sandbox prequel. Keep in mind that the original was a genre-mixing linear single-player action-adventure title that ended on a cliffhanger. :butbut:
I thought I was the only one who did a double take when that was brought up. I'm glad this game is finally coming out, but if they bland it up like every other game this year they'll kill the series for good.

Still, as far as announcements go, at least it was something different to end the show on.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: gunswordfist on June 12, 2017, 10:01:43 PM
Wut. I assumed multiplayer was a side feature for BG&E2. Like Mass Effect 3 or....GTA. Oh God. Anyway, I hope that's not true. While I do think BG&E1 is massively overrated due to the combat being kind of stale and the platforming being basic OOT stuff i.e. no jump button, it had/has a lot of potential and Michel Ancel is still a good developer.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Foggle on June 12, 2017, 10:07:23 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 12, 2017, 09:57:51 PM
I thought I was the only one who did a double take when that was brought up. I'm glad this game is finally coming out, but if they bland it up like every other game this year they'll kill the series for good.

Still, as far as announcements go, at least it was something different to end the show on.
Quote from: gunswordfist on June 12, 2017, 10:01:43 PM
Wut. I assumed multiplayer was a side feature for BG&E2. Like Mass Effect 3 or....GTA. Oh God. Anyway, I hope that's not true. While I do think BG&E1 is massively overrated due to the combat being kind of stale and the platforming being basic OOT stuff i.e. no jump button, it had/has a lot of potential and Michel Ancel is still a good developer.
The trailer was really fun (though it was weird hearing them say "fuck" constantly) so I have hope for the tone and storytelling at least. And yeah, Ancel's an excellent game designer, so even if it isn't what fans want, it'll probably still end up being enjoyable.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: gunswordfist on June 12, 2017, 10:08:28 PM
Good point, I'll probably play it anyway!  :D Rayman was my first PS1 game. :'(
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Mustang on June 13, 2017, 02:35:24 AM
Yeah, I think I'm passing on Marvel vs Capcom. No X-Men. Alright fine, I could live with them being DLC. I was not expecting Black Panther to be DLC. The times we are in right now just makes me a tad bit salty. We're talking DLC and the game's not even out. There's no harm in delaying the game if it means getting closer to completion. I'm also not feeling the roster at all. I probably set myself up for disappointment though.

Now these graphics. I would say that anyone that's a part of the FGC that tell you that graphics don't matter to them, I'll tell you they are lying. Ken's face is constantly bitched about (of all things, his face). There's already bitching about Chun Li (and she does look hideous). I almost thought the Dante we got was from DmC instead of DMC3. KoF14 got a lot of flack for looking like a ps2 game, but they're constantly trying to fix that (with what little team they got left).

But damn. That Black Panther DLC BS got me salty as hell.

The rest of the conference was meh. I just didn't have any expectations. Once Shenmue 3 and FF7 Remake were announced, if it's not Kojima making another Metal Gear game or a samurai IP, there's nothing left that can be done to wow me. DBFZ caught me by surprise though.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 13, 2017, 11:26:15 AM
Xenoblade 2 is still out this holiday season.
New Kirby Switch game is out next year. Helpers are back! Finally!
Next mainline Pokemon game is confirmed for the Switch.
Metroid Prime 4 is in development for Switch.
New Yoshi game by the Woolly World guys is also in development for the Switch.
Fire Emblem Warriors is out this Fall.
Second Zelda DLC pack is out this Holiday. The Four Champions will have amiibo as well.
Rocket League is coming to the Switch this Holiday with cross-network support, exclusive items, and local multiplayer.
Super Mario Odyssey comes out this October, and it looks amazing.

Pretty solid Direct overall. Not amazing, but pretty solid. It was the only conference that didn't utterly bore me, anyway.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 13, 2017, 12:08:53 PM
And a new 2D Metroid was just revealed for the 3DS.

WHAT.

EDIT: Zero Mission style remake of Metroid 2. Add this with the fact that Prime 4 is rumored to be developed by Kyoto instead of Retro, and I'm excited.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Foggle on June 13, 2017, 12:32:13 PM
Mario Odyssey looks awesome and the new Metroid, Kirby, and Yoshi games should be great. Could not give less of a fuck about anything related to Xenoblade, Pokemon, Fire Emblem, or Dynasty Warriors, but this would probably be the best E3 "conference" for me if I actually owned a Switch. I wonder where Retro's new game is, though.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 13, 2017, 12:08:53 PM
And a new 2D Metroid was just revealed for the 3DS.

WHAT.

EDIT: Zero Mission style remake of Metroid 2.
It's made by the guys behind the garbage Lords of Shadow Castlevania games and almost certainly won't be as good as AM2R. Why didn't they just buy the rights to the fan game off its developer? It would have been way better and cheaper. Oh well.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 13, 2017, 12:35:29 PM
They're showing the game off right now. It looks fun. Looks more like Metroid than LoS. Since Sakamoto is directing it, I'm guessing MercurySteam is just doing the grunt work.

I'm surprised we didn't see Retro's game. It's nearly finished, so I'm thinking it might be their 2018 holiday title. With Zelda and Mario this year, they're going to need a big one for next year.

Edit: Confirmed (http://gonintendo.com/stories/282558-retro-studios-isn-t-making-metroid-prime-4-new-team-on-the-job) that Retro isn't making Prime 4. So glad they aren't tethered to that series anymore. But it's still odd that Retro's game hasn't been revealed yet. It was almost shown at last E3, so where is it?
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: gunswordfist on June 13, 2017, 01:43:02 PM
Quote from: Foggle on June 13, 2017, 12:32:13 PM
Mario Odyssey looks awesome and the new Metroid, Kirby, and Yoshi games should be great. Could not give less of a fuck about anything related to Xenoblade, Pokemon, Fire Emblem, or Dynasty Warriors, but this would probably be the best E3 "conference" for me if I actually owned a Switch. I wonder where Retro's new game is, though.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 13, 2017, 12:08:53 PM
And a new 2D Metroid was just revealed for the 3DS.

WHAT.

EDIT: Zero Mission style remake of Metroid 2.
It's made by the guys behind the garbage Lords of Shadow Castlevania games and almost certainly won't be as good as AM2R. Why didn't they just buy the rights to the fan game off its developer? It would have been way better and cheaper. Oh well.
*sighs* I came here to voice my concern. AM2R is my favorite Metroid (which has a lot to do with it being the only Metroid I have ever beaten but still). Not to mention that it has the best controls and abilities, namely controls destroy anything NES, SNES or GBA is capable of with the franchise. Anyway, I hope it's good and I hope we can play all the announced games without motion controls. If so, I might get a Switch next year.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Daikun on June 13, 2017, 07:54:43 PM
E3 Honest Trailer (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ei-Cr2pW4zg)
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 15, 2017, 08:00:00 PM
And, as usual, TGBS sums up everyone's thoughts on E3 this year in a nutshell: https://youtu.be/Ks-E6ddOymU

Best part of the video: "Oh hey look, there's Dante....and there he goes...."

It's also very telling that even TGBS, who clearly doesn't like Dragon Ball, flat out says that DBFZ looks fun as hell. That's how you can tell that it isn't just fan hype and that people who simply like good games can tell how amazing this game looks. Easily my game of the show, and while that's not saying much given what little value we got here, suffice it to say that this would be a top five for me even on a good year.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 15, 2017, 08:26:33 PM
Is it weird that I'm more excited by the fact that Retro isn't making Prime 4 than I am for Prime 4 itself? Finally no whining when their next game is revealed.

As for my top 5 new games of the show, I already know:

1. Kirby
2. Dragon Ball Fighter Z
3. Mario + Rabbids
4. Wolfenstein II
5. Yoshi

There was some other good stuff, but not a whole lot that really wowed me this year, and I didn't expect much would going in. E3 just isn't what it used to be.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: gunswordfist on June 15, 2017, 09:48:09 PM
It sure isn't. *sighs* When's Platinum's next game?
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Foggle on June 15, 2017, 10:05:42 PM
I thought the previous two E3s were pretty good, especially 2015's. This one was awful, though. I guess my top 5 reveals were:

1. Wolfenstein
2. Evil Within
3. Metroid
4. Yoshi
5. Metro

It's too bad I simply can't enjoy/become good at fighting games or I'm sure I'd be pumped for DBFZ.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 15, 2017, 08:26:33 PM
Is it weird that I'm more excited by the fact that Retro isn't making Prime 4 than I am for Prime 4 itself? Finally no whining when their next game is revealed.
I'm happy too. The whining when Tropical Freeze was revealed was insufferable.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on June 15, 2017, 10:19:30 PM
Foggle: For the record, I have never (nor have I ever claimed to be) remotely good at fighting games by any standards. Personally I just enjoy learning the mechanics of characters that I like and applying them in matches to put up a decent fight, even if I'm not winning.

I played a bunch of USFIV against my older brother and online, and lost 90% of the time, but I tell you every time I landed a successful FADC combo or countered them with a well-timed Ultra it made the whole experience worth it. The only time I flat out wasn't having fun was when I went up against a Guile player. Fuck those guys.

However I think videos like the ones that Core-A-Gaming makes explain the appeal of fighting games even if they are pretty hard. Especially these three:

https://youtu.be/iSgA_nK_w3A

https://youtu.be/AGrIR_jlLno

https://youtu.be/0U6ahedifJE

And then there's EVO, the hypest thing in competitive gaming; and I've watched other E-Sports like Starcraft tournaments as well as Counterstrike and other FPS games, so when I say hype, I'm specifically referring to how much fun it is just to understand enough about any given fighting game to appreciate how insanely well top level players go at each other. I mean, stuff like this just makes me glad to have even witnessed it: https://youtu.be/ZRY0aMbSZEM

Of course, as someone who can never do any of those things, it is still really fun to actually play the games. I just like a system that is technical enough to the point where there is enough difficulty to more advanced tactics that makes it feel extremely rewarding to successfully pull them off. It'd be nice to have a DBZ game with some solid mechanics behind it, and this is looking like the way to go.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: gunswordfist on June 15, 2017, 11:30:00 PM
Let's see:
1. DBFZ
2. Anthem
3. Metroid 2
4. Wolfenstein II
....that's all I can remember/got.
Quote from: Foggle on June 15, 2017, 10:05:42 PM
I thought the previous two E3s were pretty good, especially 2015's. This one was awful, though. I guess my top 5 reveals were:

1. Wolfenstein
2. Evil Within
3. Metroid
4. Yoshi
5. Metro

It's too bad I simply can't enjoy/become good at fighting games or I'm sure I'd be pumped for DBFZ.
I...completely forgot what happened last year. 2015 is my favorite E3 of all time though. It was like Sony and Square accidentally got their shit together.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Foggle on June 15, 2017, 11:34:31 PM
I definitely understand the core appeal! It's similar to what makes character action games so awesome and satisfying. I've had a lot of fun with several Tekken games and simpler fighters like Smash Bros. or genre-hybrids like Anarchy Reigns and Power Stone but I have issues with hand-eye coordination/muscle memory to the point where I can't successfully pull off things like quarter-circle turns or remember complex combo strings to save my life. DBFZ looks really cool though, so if I was into Dragon Ball, I'm sure I'd buy it anyway and have a great time being bad at it. :D I've gotten a lot of mileage out of Rival Schools and especially Project Justice because I love the music, character designs, and animations (I secretly want this to be Itsuno's new project even though I'd probably prefer DMC or DD) but I'll be damned if I can ever manage to beat the story mode in either game. :il_hahaha:

Quote from: gunswordfist on June 15, 2017, 11:30:00 PM
I...completely forgot what happened last year. 2015 is my favorite E3 of all time though. It was like Sony and Square accidentally got their shit together.
RE7 actually being a horror game and not a co-op action blockbuster for one! It wasn't super impressive but there was a fair amount of good-looking footage at every conference, certainly more than this year. 2015 was just awesome, though. I will never forget that Nier Automata announcement... :cry:
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: gunswordfist on June 16, 2017, 01:30:20 AM
It was so fun reading your 2015 E3 tweets  ;D :D
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Daikun on June 20, 2017, 08:56:16 PM
Jaboody's E3 Dub (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQeXUZkNLiA)
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Mustang on June 21, 2017, 07:19:55 PM
1. Dragon Ball FighterZ
2. Uncharted: The Lost Legacy
3. Anthem
4. Spider-Man

Yeah, thought I could squeeze out 5, but couldn't do so. DBFz, while the hype is still there for me, there are some minor concerns, but for the most part I won't bother talking about it since I'll be repeating myself.

As for Uncharted, I love the series (top 5 easily). When it came time for Persona 5 I made the time to play it because I was that pumped for it. I say that because most of these games that're coming out that exceed the 40 hour mark gotta really grasp my interest and hold my attention for me to really care about them. Uncharted (and Metal Gear Solid) series are long enough for me and I can easily replay them since I have no problem with summer blockbusters. Outside of fighting games that thrill of a challenge is gone, so when it comes to the DMC's and NG's I'm tapped out. Uncharted pleases me in a way where I can just come in from work, sit down and just shoot ish up. Alright, I'm rambling now. Chloe is the character I enjoyed the most and to see that she is tagging along with Nadine, can't get any better.

Anthem. I don't know what to expect here. I'm hoping this is nothing like Destiny where there are raids and whatnot. I'm just hoping at this point Bioware can bounce back with this.

Spider-Man. Again, not sure what to expect. I need to see more of it though.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Foggle on June 21, 2017, 11:07:02 PM
No hype for Wolfenstein? It looks like the coolest shooter since last year's Doom and the previous installment was real good!
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 21, 2017, 11:21:52 PM
Don't think he's much of an FPS fan.

I actually am excited for Wolfenstein due to id's pedigree. Rage aside, they haven't screwed up yet.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Mustang on June 22, 2017, 02:19:52 AM
I haven't been into FPS's since Halo Reach.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Foggle on June 22, 2017, 07:30:41 PM
Interesting! I actually know a lot of people who are into TPS but not FPS, never really understood why myself but it's cool.

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 21, 2017, 11:21:52 PM
I actually am excited for Wolfenstein due to id's pedigree. Rage aside, they haven't screwed up yet.
Not to be pedantic, but Wolfenstein 2 is developed by Machine Games (as are New Order and Old Blood). ;) Id hasn't actually made a Wolfenstein game since Spear of Destiny! Return was by Gray Matter and the 2009 one was by Raven.

But yeah, Id's only real miss was Rage. Doom 3: BFG Edition was also pretty bad IMO but I can understand why they made it and it apparently pleased a lot of people.
Title: Re: E3 2017
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 22, 2017, 08:04:57 PM
Wow, I could have sworn it was them. Either way, the game looks great.