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Title: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Neomysterion X. Prime on December 27, 2010, 06:05:24 PM
It wouldn't be bad to reboot this Pokemon topic as well!

As always, we can talk about the Pokemon games of all generations, Pokemon teams you whipped up, accomplishments, and all of that other Poke-jazz here as well. Discussion of the Pokemon anime will go to anime board as usual.  ;)

Was getting tired of seeing the broken text code. -- Foggle
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on December 27, 2010, 06:11:00 PM
I still need to raise a powerful team between the Fire Red and Leaf Green Pokemon games (which includes 2nd generation Pokemon as being playable) by the end of Winter Break so that I can face off against a friend of mine at the beginning of next semester. Does anyone have any good suggestions of univerally useful Pokemon that I should have in my team? For right now, I'm only 100% positive that I'll have a Dragonite that knows Earthquake and a powerful electric attack. I know that my friend will have a Skarmory and a Tyranitar in his party, but that's all that I know for sure. He may also have a Scizor in his team, but I also plan to have a Scizor to use, with Sword Dance, Baton Pass, and Substitute.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on December 27, 2010, 07:12:51 PM
From what I can recall, Arcanines might fare well, or you could just teach the Dragonite Flamethrower.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Daxdiv on December 27, 2010, 08:22:32 PM
So, Gen V is now scheduled to come out on March 6th, 2011, and with that we got some new names for the Isshu/Unova mons. Currently, this is what was revealed today:

Shimama is now Blitzle
Mamepato is now Pidove
Hihidaruma is now Darmanitan
Meguroco is now Sandile
Chillarmy is now Minccino
Gigaiath is now Gigalith
Gear/Giaru is now Klink
Munna keeps it's JPN name.

I personally like Bltizle, Darmanitian, Sandile, and Gigalith.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Neomysterion X. Prime on December 27, 2010, 08:37:53 PM
March 6th? Man Daxdiv, me and friends at JellyNeo forums (who also have a Pokemon topic over there) are Game Freakin' stoked about all of these great news!  :shakeshakeshake:

Here's my dream team for Pokemon Black/White, enjoy!

(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farchives.bulbagarden.net%2Fmedia%2Fupload%2F5%2F53%2FSpr_5b_503.png&hash=d600918300f044335965982a5a22dc5b4515960e)
Daikenki (Water)

(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farchives.bulbagarden.net%2Fmedia%2Fupload%2F0%2F01%2F628.png&hash=9db5d440d9414ece116367d4ddcc73ce268c0982)
Wargle (Normal/Flying)

(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farchives.bulbagarden.net%2Fmedia%2Fupload%2Fe%2Fef%2F553.png&hash=8e0d0383fa12e1123d864de1a9eb8cf2585cc789)
Warubiaru (Dark/Ground)

(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farchives.bulbagarden.net%2Fmedia%2Fupload%2F4%2F48%2F635.png&hash=f7a67b762ebaf938a43e903763e5da03c92ae284)
...or Sazando (Dark/Dragon)

(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farchives.bulbagarden.net%2Fmedia%2Fupload%2F1%2F10%2FSpr_5b_579.png&hash=be44996c0b1f8d606bd4be84de591bbfc3b05536)
Ranculus (Psychic)

(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farchives.bulbagarden.net%2Fmedia%2Fupload%2Fb%2Fbf%2F584.png&hash=8f222eb41ac433b6ebb935e830fc77460e3516ad)
Vaivanilla (Ice)

(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Farchives.bulbagarden.net%2Fmedia%2Fupload%2F3%2F39%2F637.png&hash=96834f30a56a37d142b6251c7156ff8346393f76)
Urgamoth (Bug/Fire)

I'll configure proper movesets later on.

By the way, I was having trouble choosing between Warubiaru and Sazando when it came to Dark-types. Any recommendations?
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: talonmalon333 on December 28, 2010, 12:41:06 AM
I LOVE the first two generations, with the first one taking the edge just barely. After them, I just got tired of it. :(

Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on December 27, 2010, 06:11:00 PM
I still need to raise a powerful team between the Fire Red and Leaf Green Pokemon games (which includes 2nd generation Pokemon as being playable) by the end of Winter Break so that I can face off against a friend of mine at the beginning of next semester. Does anyone have any good suggestions of univerally useful Pokemon that I should have in my team? For right now, I'm only 100% positive that I'll have a Dragonite that knows Earthquake and a powerful electric attack. I know that my friend will have a Skarmory and a Tyranitar in his party, but that's all that I know for sure. He may also have a Scizor in his team, but I also plan to have a Scizor to use, with Sword Dance, Baton Pass, and Substitute.

That's first generation, correct? I can give you recommendations based off of my ultimate team from blue version.

-Dragonite
-Gyrados
-Arcanine
-Alakazam
-Venasaur
-Rhydon

It was nearly unstoppable by the end.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Neomysterion X. Prime on December 28, 2010, 02:53:06 AM
Bringing on the swell teams I see, here's my Battle Revolution Team that the guys at Jellyneo (especially 3est) were bad-mouthing on.
By the way, talon, your Pokemon Blue team reminds me of the rival's team back in the day.

Charizard
Flamethrower, Fly, Dragon Claw, Shadow Claw
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi528.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fdd322%2F_iSiaH_%2Fcharizard.png&hash=820d6ce0ecb8ddc6a9a6a7732d2d75365619e706)

Kingdra
Surf, Dragon Pulse, Ice Beam, Yawn
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi25.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc90%2FBrlee2003%2Fkingdra.jpg&hash=c23a714b04b68cfec23278e871b5e043aea8bf8a)

Exeggutor (mine's shiny)
Seed Bomb, Leech Seed, Psychic, Sleep Powder
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi536.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff329%2FDiegomio%2Fdpffsa103.png&hash=1d766e2244998c904d6d51b4acf5d01ccafedfd3)

Scizor
X-Scissor, Iron Head, Night Slash, Swords Dance
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi865.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fab211%2FDinja3%2FScizor.png&hash=d7b47f707891a204d233e8a371980c62f8e42fb0)

Rhyperior
Rock Wrecker, Earthquake, Poison Jab, Megahorn
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi127.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp147%2Fnardfry21%2Frhyperior.png&hash=3fb94deb10e31128c1e7a78aa7cdd140c98d477c)

Electivire
ThunderPunch, Ice Punch, Fire Punch, Cross Chop
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi395.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fpp36%2FBlaze-Infernape%2F000351.jpg&hash=9a5ed786b146071518b03dc94f994945d5c3232b)
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Daxdiv on December 28, 2010, 10:41:47 PM
If I had Pokémon Battle Revolution on me, I would like to battle you Neoking, just for fun really. Though considering the training I put my team through, I'm not sure how many of my mons you'll be able to defeat.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Neomysterion X. Prime on January 03, 2011, 01:17:29 PM
I'm surprised that no one has posted this yet.
The Shiny Legendary Dogs Distribution at GameStop starts today!

January 3 to January 9: Shiny Raikou
January 17 to January 23: Shiny Entei
January 31 to February 6: Shiny Suicune

As an added extra, there will be a Celebi distribution starting February 27 up to March 7 at GameStop.

By the way Dax, I'm currently making some more solid troopers to clash against your teams and the teams that my friends at JellyNeo Forums, The Daily Neopets Forums, and RetroJunk have whipped up.

One of these days... I'll have a perfect Pokemon team to clash against anyone.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Veggie on January 06, 2011, 03:30:04 PM
I'm way too excited for Black and White. Right now I'm debating between getting Snivy or Tepig, though I'm leaning towards Tepig.

Anyway, I recently discovered that Azumarill can surprisingly be devastating in competitive play. Adamant nature + Huge Power ability + Max Attack EVs+ Choice Band = RAPE EVERYTHING
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Neomysterion X. Prime on February 25, 2011, 05:26:51 AM
Quote from: Veggie on January 06, 2011, 03:30:04 PM
I'm way too excited for Black and White. Right now I'm debating between getting Snivy or Tepig, though I'm leaning towards Tepig.

Anyway, I recently discovered that Azumarill can surprisingly be devastating in competitive play. Adamant nature + Huge Power ability + Max Attack EVs+ Choice Band = RAPE EVERYTHING

...and I thought that Wobbuffet would of pwned everything with its counterattacks. I wonder if anyone else knew about Azumarill's true power. o_0

Therefore, Pokémon Black and White's release will only be less than two weeks! I still have plans on getting both versions, but I'd keep my main 5th Generation file in the White Version... which has better exclusives (no offense).
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: gunswordfist on February 25, 2011, 05:00:52 PM
Hmmm, my dream team? I only got around to doing that in gen one (I'm undefeated on Red/Blue  :sly:  )

Let's see:

Blastoid
Dragonite
Mewtwo
Venusaur
Charizard
Arcanine (I think?)

The memory of my dream team is fuzzy since I switched members all the time. I do know that Pokemon that can't learn Hyper Beam are NEVER on my fucking team. I think Golem and one of the legendary birds was on my last team.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 07, 2011, 07:26:38 PM
Alright, I'm almost done playing through Fire Red, and after that I'll end up scrapping the team which I currently have and use some cheats to start raising the real Pokemon that I want from scratch, maxing them out in the right EVs and making sure that they each have the right nature for the particular purpose I intend to use them for in my team. I'll only be using generation 1 and 2 Pokemon, and I'm preparing for a match against one of my friend's at college. I'm already positive that I'll have a Gengar in my team, but I'm not sure if I also want Alakazam or not, despite the fact that he's a great special attack sweeper. I was considering using a Venusaur with sleep powder and leech seed, but then I figured that it'd be too easy to counter by just using a powerful fire, ice, or psychic move from a Pokemon with high special attack stats, so I may scrap using Venusaur after all. I may end up trying to use him as a physical tank, though.

Other than that, I'm not too sure who else to include in my team. I'm highly consider a Garrydos with Dragon Dance and Taunt and a Snorlax with Curse and Rest, but if I pick either or both of them, then I'll need to put a lot of thought into how to choose for the rest of the team to complement those types of Pokemon that I have already chosen, to make my team well-balanced overall. The most important thing is to have a team that can counter a wide variety of different Pokemon teams with each having different abilities. The only Pokemon that I know my friend will be using for sure is Skarmory, and I know that he'll include both Spikes and Roar in its moveset, so I'll need a good fire or electric type Pokemon to deal with him, or at least a Pokemon that can use either fire or electric attacks and has relatively good stats for special attacks.

The more I think about it, the more complex it seems. At any rate, after having some fun getting re-aquainted and overall familiar with the first 2 generations once more, I'll probably move onto generation 3 with Ruby and Sapphire.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Daxdiv on March 15, 2011, 01:13:40 AM
Pokémon Black and White is amazing, everyone should be playing this if they have a DS. There is no excuse. I love the freshness this game brought. I'd still say that creating a new eco-system where you can't catch the old guys was the best move ever. Especially considering that whenever I play a new game, I always use the newer monsters, and with over 150 new ones, the possibilities are endless. Also, the fights flow more naturally and play really fast. As for the new EXP system, I like it when I'm training a low level monster, but later in the game I have to go hunting for wild Audino, which are basically this game's Chansey as they reward you with more EXP than any monster. They sure helped me when I was grinding my team for the Elite Four.

Also, due to this I plan to rebuy a Pokémon Blue Cartridge to play, just to say how far we really have come in the world of Pokémon.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 15, 2011, 01:23:43 AM
How are the starters in the new game? Do any of them evolve into really useful Pokemon once they reach their final form and learn their proper move-sets with their specific abilities?

From what I've played of the Pokemon games, generation 3 (Ruby and Sapphire) has the best starters, since they all evolve into really good Pokemon with tons of useful abilities and tactics that you can use each of them for.

Also, how are the Pokemon designs in that game? I personally felt that the designs got kind of lazy after generation 2, with some definite interesting and even some really good ones and R&S and D&P, but there were also a lot of designs that looked pretty unappealing to me in those generations. I'm curious to know how interesting most of the Pokemon designs are for B&W.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 15, 2011, 01:30:42 AM
Gen 3's designs were filled with nightmare fuel. They got better afterward, but fuck some of that stuff is pants-shittingly eerie.

Still enjoying SoulSilver, though I keep getting distracted from it. I still haven't quite decided if I'm interested in Black/White or if I'll wait for the next version yet.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 15, 2011, 01:40:23 AM
Generation 3 definitely had the ugliest designs overall (with a few exceptions here and there), but it also unarguably had the best Pokemon in terms of stats and such. If you've ever explored the multiplayer aspect of Pokemon and raised teams to battle against any of your friends, you'd probably most likely choose a bunch of Pokemon from G3 for practicality purposes. Of course, if you don't care about playing against any of your friends or against any people online, then G3 is definitely the least appealing of Pokemon game generations.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Daxdiv on March 15, 2011, 02:01:51 AM
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on March 15, 2011, 01:23:43 AM
How are the starters in the new game? Do any of them evolve into really useful Pokemon once they reach their final form and learn their proper move-sets with their specific abilities?

From what I've played of the Pokemon games, generation 3 (Ruby and Sapphire) has the best starters, since they all evolve into really good Pokemon with tons of useful abilities and tactics that you can use each of them for.

Also, how are the Pokemon designs in that game? I personally felt that the designs got kind of lazy after generation 2, with some definite interesting and even some really good ones and R&S and D&P, but there were also a lot of designs that looked pretty unappealing to me in those generations. I'm curious to know how interesting most of the Pokemon designs are for B&W.

1. This is how I rank the starters in their final form:

Emboar- Strong attack, and has the most diverse movepool out of the bunch. It's also the only starter that has a dual type, and it's the same Fire/Fighting we had for the last 3 generations. I'd say it's only weakness is how slow it is, and it's hidden ability of Thick Fat is not really all that useful.

Samurott- I say it's the more well balanced of the 3, Has some balance stats, some nice moves to learn. Hidden ability is OK, but considering how the metagame is more OHKO anything, you probably won't see much mileage out of it.

Serperior- Weak move pool, but it has the highest speed, and take a beating as well. Though it's Dream World/Hidden Ability is pretty awesome if you get Leaf Storm on it. It's hidden ability is stat boosting/decreasing moves do the opposite, even if they're self inducing or from a side effect.

Personally, my favorite starter group are the Sinnoh starters, but then again I like turtles, monkeys, and penguins, and their final forms aren't too shabby as well. They all have their unique looks, combinations and strategy. I like how Torterra is based on the World Turtle, Infernape is Son Goku from Journey of the West, and Empoleon was partially based on Poseidon.

2. While this is a subjective question, I will say that I do like how radically different they are from before. I do like most of the designs, and the only ones I can really call lazyness on is the Kami trio group, since they do feel more like palette swaps. Sure there are some that don't stick out to me right now, but I do kind of like how they break away from the mold on how certain monsters look, and that was kind of Ken Sugimori's and Junichi Masuda's intention. In time, the new guys will grow on me. I remember not liking certain monsters when they were leaked, but after a while I started to like them.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 07, 2011, 01:29:43 PM
Does anyone have any suggestions for any good Pokemon (in terms of overall usefulness, either in combat situations or for other purposes) to look out for in Pokemon Ruby. Being that I am largely unfamiliar with the 3rd generation Pokemon, I'm not sure which are the good ones to keep in my party.

Currently I have a level 40 Blaziken in my party, and he alone is a pretty damn good sweeper but I need to watch out for any Pokemon that have Earthquake when using him, since he's quad-weak against any ground-type attacks. I initially had a Ralts to use as my Psychic Pokemon, and I evolved him into a Kirlia, but then I found an wild Abra in a cave near the 2nd Gym and immediately thought to myself: "Fuck this shitty replacement, I'm getting me an Alakazam right away." :sly:

I also have a Linoone who I am only keeping around in my party for its extremely useful pickup ability. My last useful Pokemon is Gyarados, but I haven't taught him all of the useful moves that I want him to have yet, so he's not entirely useful to me just yet, but even so I still keep him around in my party. The other 2 spots on my team are filled with 2 random garbage Pokemon that I just put in there for filler, but I'm willing to catch some new and more useful Pokemon if anyone has any suggestions on which are good ones to have in my team.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Avaitor on April 07, 2011, 01:36:21 PM
My friend has offered to give me his old SP and a copy of Gold to play through. Since I destroyed my GBA a few years back, this will be good for me, as now I can play Pokemon and some of my old favorites.

I just need to wait for the right time that he can to lend it to me.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 07, 2011, 01:49:35 PM
Heh, Gold and Silver were my favorites of the games from the first 3 generations. I like how it adds in quite a few new elements to the Pokemon, like how each of them have their own nature, and how now there are separate stats for regular physical attack/defense and special attack/defense, and there are EVs and IVs for each Pokemon so you'll never have 2 of the same type of Pokemon with the exact same stats. While none of this really means all too much in the single-player, it does get me to appreciate how these games have much deeper mechanics that what I even realized as a kid, though they only really come into play if you have a friend or someone else to play against.

Speaking of multiplayer in Pokemon, has anyone ever seen that video in which Killer Nacho uses a strategy in which he ends up taking out 6 uber-level Pokemon....with just a single Magikarp? That has to be the most hilarious match that I have ever seen, but it must have taken that guy countless tries for him to get his strategy to work right, and he was pretty lucky that his opponent's very first Pokemon had the Rain Dance ability (not the actual move, so in this case it actually lasted throughout the whole battle), which pretty much doubled Magikarp's speed and made it the fastest damn thing in that entire match. I really wish I could get a DS and get Heart Gold or Soul Silver so that I could play some Wi-Fi matches myself.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Avaitor on April 07, 2011, 01:55:11 PM
Yeah, those were my favorites, too. I especially liked the day and night aspects, since they made traveling and stragetizing when to play even more fun.

I'll talk more about them when I can finally get Gold back.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Commode on April 07, 2011, 07:23:04 PM
Shit, I haven't played Black in a couple of weeks now.  Don't really know why, I made it to Castilia City(I think that's what it's called, the big NYC looking city?), but so far I haven't left it.  Need to get on that.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Avaitor on April 13, 2011, 07:37:21 AM
My friend couldn't find Gold or Silver, so he lent me Red instead. Not what I wanted, but hey, it's his game and SP, not mine. :P

I forgot just how addicting the game is, too. I already had my Squirtle evolve into Wartortle and beat Misty. So much fun.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 13, 2011, 12:23:21 PM
Heh, Squirtle used to be my favorite of the starters, until I realized just how useful it was to get Bulbasaur, only for when he evolved into Venasaur (leech seed is actually and incredibly overpowered move when you realize how easy it is to abuse it, as not only does it slowly drain the life from whatever Pokemon your fighting, but it also gradually heals any Pokemon that you have out as well).

In terms of creative designs and overall appeal, I find that generation 1 had the best Pokemon in that regard. In terms of practicality and usefulness, though, I have to admit that generation 3 is probably the best of the Pokemon games that I have played, when it comes to that particular aspect.

My only real major annoyance with the Pokemon games is the fact that they have some really useful Pokemon that you can't evolve to their final form unless you trade them. As a kid, I didn't have a GB link, so I could never get myself a Gengar or Alakazam because I had nobody to trade with.

Of course, in my Pokemon Ruby file, I currently have an Alakazam in my party, and in my Pokemon Fire Red file I have a Gengar, as well as a Scizor.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Avaitor on April 13, 2011, 12:30:51 PM
I always go with Squirtle myself, just because it's an easy way to beat Brock right away. By the time I get to Misty I already have a strong, well-developed enough Squirtle or Wartortle and set in general to face her. But good point on the Bulbasaur aspect.

Also took down Lt. Surge today. I have a research paper and some homework to work on today, but I'll probably play some more after I get down to some of that.

Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on April 13, 2011, 01:17:51 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on April 13, 2011, 12:30:51 PM
I always go with Squirtle myself, just because it's an easy way to beat Brock right away. By the time I get to Misty I already have a strong, well-developed enough Squirtle or Wartortle and set in general to face her. But good point on the Bulbasaur aspect.

Well, actually, all of Brock's Pokemon are just as weak against grass type moves as they are against water-based attacks, and Misty's water Pokemon are also weak against grass moves, with Lt. Surge's electric Pokemon being highly ineffective against grass-type Pokemon, so I find that Bulbasaur is actually the best starter in terms of giving you the biggest initial advantage in the game.

Overall, though, it doesn't really matter too much which starter you pick, as each one proves extremely useful at on point or another. Charmander will probably give you the toughest start since he's horrible against the first few gym leaders, but he's meant to be far better when he evolves into Charizard later on in the game, and is probably one of the best/most ideal Pokemon to have in your party to use against the Elite Four with his high speed and attack stats, whereas Venasaur would be less useful against them with his stats, if it weren't for leech seed (which is a pretty damn cheap move when you think about it). Blastoise is also a good pick because he's more well-rounded, with very balanced stats that are between those of Venasaur and Charizard.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Angus on April 13, 2011, 06:27:21 PM
Hmm, what skill level is needed for Black and White? Is it suitable for little kids like Kirby Epic Yarn?
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on April 13, 2011, 06:56:50 PM
Quote from: Angus on April 13, 2011, 06:27:21 PM
Hmm, what skill level is needed for Black and White? Is it suitable for little kids like Kirby Epic Yarn?

Just need to know that having a super effective type doesn't yield the best results anymore.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Daxdiv on April 13, 2011, 07:12:56 PM
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 13, 2011, 06:56:50 PM
Quote from: Angus on April 13, 2011, 06:27:21 PM
Hmm, what skill level is needed for Black and White? Is it suitable for little kids like Kirby Epic Yarn?

Just need to know that having a super effective type doesn't yield the best results anymore.
Yeah, they really did beef up the defenses this generation. I tested out a Mandibuzz after one of my friends said it was the best tanks introduced in Generation V. In a way, he was right. I personally think that the bulkiness of Defense was to counterbalance how Generation IV had an overabundance on Sweeping. Hell, I was fucking guilty of having a strategy that was basically "KO my opponent with one Super-Effective and STAB move for maximum damage and aim for the type of attack that matches my opponents weakest defense stat."  Despite my stance on the Snivy line being my least favorite starter in Unova, it does make up for it in the sense that it can take a hit or two before going down.

I guess it also helps that I read somewhere that Junichi Masuda does look at the competitive scene to see what Pokémon, the moves, etc. are overused and then he sees if they can make something to counterbalance that. In fact, I'm pretty sure that's why Stealth Rock was knocked back from TM status to only certain monsters can learn it in the wild. Stealth Rock was a major move in the Gen IV metagame in that everyone had it and it basically weaken your opponents HP depending on how well they can handle a Rock type attack.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: gunswordfist on April 14, 2011, 02:40:33 PM
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on April 13, 2011, 12:23:21 PM
Heh, Squirtle used to be my favorite of the starters, until I realized just how useful it was to get Bulbasaur, only for when he evolved into Venasaur (leech seed is actually and incredibly overpowered move when you realize how easy it is to abuse it, as not only does it slowly drain the life from whatever Pokemon your fighting, but it also gradually heals any Pokemon that you have out as well).

In terms of creative designs and overall appeal, I find that generation 1 had the best Pokemon in that regard. In terms of practicality and usefulness, though, I have to admit that generation 3 is probably the best of the Pokemon games that I have played, when it comes to that particular aspect.

My only real major annoyance with the Pokemon games is the fact that they have some really useful Pokemon that you can't evolve to their final form unless you trade them. As a kid, I didn't have a GB link, so I could never get myself a Gengar or Alakazam because I had nobody to trade with.

Of course, in my Pokemon Ruby file, I currently have an Alakazam in my party, and in my Pokemon Fire Red file I have a Gengar, as well as a Scizor.
Yeah, Gen 1 had my favorite Pokemon.

Pokemon Gold/Silver/Crystal are my favorite Pokemon games though. I never actually played anything past that.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Daxdiv on April 17, 2011, 12:00:31 AM
I am posting in this thread to say that Alder is the easiest Champions I've ever fought. That is all. I pretty much used only 3 Pokémon to defeat him. While Cynthia I had to use my whole team.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Neomysterion X. Prime on April 18, 2011, 10:12:34 AM
So I got both Pokémon Black and White for the Nintendo DS, and it felt like an entirely different spin to the Pokémon series. I just got started with my new adventure, and I'm willing to toughen up my Unova team to higher levels so I can really show 'em who's boss!  :sly:
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Eddy on July 12, 2011, 01:43:49 PM
Pokemon White is the first Pokemon game I played since Gold (unless the remakes of FireRed and HeartGold count, which I don't think they do) and I have to say, I really got into it. Probably my favorite batch of Pokemon since the original 151. Some are a little more "eh" than others but, as a whole, I really love the Black and White gen of Pokemon and the game itself was the most fun I had with Pokemon in a long time.

And Snivy is a badass.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 12, 2011, 06:10:51 PM
I wouldn't mind trying either Black or White, myself, if I had a DS. I'm still in the middle of Ruby right now and its just so....boring. Red/Blue/Green/Yellow and Gold/Silver/Crystal really addicted the hell out of me. Ruby has some good Pokemon but the Pokemon actually aren't the problem. The problem is that the actual content of the game just feels so half-assed. The trainers are boring, the gym leaders are boring, and the fights seem even easier than before (which is saying a lot given how easy Pokemon games are in general). I hear that in terms of the multiplayer side of things Ruby has the best offering in terms of having the best "practical" generation of Pokemon, but that doesn't excuse the single-player mode from being so half-assed. I'll keep slogging through the game until I eventually end up finishing it, but I'm pretty disappointed by it. I hear that Diamond and Pearl is also kind of lackluster, but Black and White is supposedly the best generation since Gold and Silver. I hope so, because I'd really like another great experience with the franchise.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Daxdiv on July 12, 2011, 07:45:28 PM
Black and White was the best thing to happen the Pokémon Franchise in a long time, that it makes me feel like I'm a ten year old kid playing Red and Blue all over again. I loved the team I ended up raising in White so much, nothing like having a Haxorus, Conkeldurr, Zoroark, Chandelure, Leavanny, and Samurott to kick ass across the region. I want to restart White, but I like my digital buddies, we have so many memories, that and it is tradition for me to keep one main copy for when I decide to dabble in the competitive scene for Gen V, and I am making White my main copy until the 3rd game comes out.

I really love how diverse the monsters are in this generation compared to the others and how it's mostly focused on the new guys. In fact, the one thing I always did in games like G/S, R/S/E, D/P/Pl was just playing with the new guys instead of going for established favorites like Alakazam, Gyarados, etc. After all, I thought the approach the design team went with was pretty neat, new eco system means different look. I do have a lot of favorites this generation, might go into detail as soon as I try everyone out.

My only complaint about Gen V so far is the post game is a little lacking in some areas. Other than going to Black City/White Forest, facing the Elite Four, hunting down the other Sages, seeing old faces as far as Pokémon and trainers goes, there really isn't much to do after you beat the main story, and I do try to use the term "main story" as a point that sticks out, cause it is pretty different compared to the previous generations. Maybe G/S has spoiled me, and I'm probably nostalgic for how Diamond and Pearl handled post game, along with the remakes of the originals, and it wasn't until Emerald that came in and add a few post game things.

I kind of wish they do this all over again when Generation VI rolls around.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Rosalinas Spare Wand on July 14, 2011, 09:41:03 PM
All the Gym leaders so far have been pretty fantastic, they're as active and charming as the Sinnoh ones. After Elesa though, they've been easy pickings for my team.

Also, did anyone else suffer from going too far because you're too busy training everyone? This gen around, I didn't just keep a team of 6, I've been swapping out guys in and out in every area I've been in. I have about 14 active Pokemon I have around the same level, and I can't bring myself to drop any of them.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Daxdiv on July 14, 2011, 10:43:14 PM
I only went with 6 cause I didn't want that to happen and eat up more time. Of course, I did import White before it was released in America, so I was able to train some that caught my eyes earlier, like Darmanitan. Probably would have trained more if I didn't spoil myself.

But as far as Gym Leaders go, I love this diverse group of leaders. I like how everyone of them has a day job of some sorts, sort of like how Sinnoh gym leaders did something other than sitting around, which was why I love that group of Gym Leaders before Gen V.  You have the brothers of Cilan, Cress, & Chili who are waiters at their own restaurant, Lenora who curates her own museum with her husband, Burgh a skilled artist, Elesa a famous model, Clay who is an oil tycoon of sorts and his gym even reflects that, Skyla who is a pilot, Brycen who was a famous actor but gave that all up to become a trainer, and  Drayden the mayor of Opelucid city. Really the only one that doesn't have a job is Iris and even then it's kind of forgivable considering she is a little kid and depending on what version you have, she'll either be the kid that will inherit the gym or the kid that already inherited the gym. Hell, I heard in the Japanese version when you have it set to Kanji mode, Iris still talks in Katanana or whatever that form of moonspeak is.

I just love how this game does feel like Mother 3, but with Pokémon.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Kiddington on September 16, 2011, 02:12:44 AM
So I actually caught one of these the other day. (http://www.serebii.net/pokedex-rs/349.shtml)

'Bout fucking time. Took me EIGHT YEARS to finally catch one (never had the patience before, tbh). Now I just need to breed the crap out of these things, so I have never have to subject myself to this process again.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Commode on March 30, 2012, 06:07:50 PM
Stupid question is stupid, but how do I unlock the Team Rocket member in the Goldenrod Tunnel, you know the one that gives you a Team Rocket suit which enables you to get into the Radio Tower?  I've caught the red Gyarados in the Lake of Rage, I finished up with the Team Rocket HQ(the little antenna next to the shop is destroyed), and I've beaten Mahogany Town gym, but when I fly back to Goldenrod the Team Rocket member isn't standing next to the camera like he should be.

I got it to work in Soulsilver, but that was ages ago, my game has been complete for well over a year.  But running through Heartgold I got stuck here.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 24, 2012, 06:02:04 PM
Here you guys go:

QuotePok?mon Red/Green/Blue (GB): 31,380,000*
Pok?mon Ruby/Sapphire (GBA): 16,220,000
Pok?mon Diamond/Pearl (NDS): 17,610,000
Pok?mon Black/White (NDS): 14,710,000
* Red/Green/Blue numbers are from the Guinness Book.

Pok?mon Fire Red/Leaf Green (GBA): 12,000,000
Pok?mon Heart Gold/Soul Silver (NDS): 12,400,000
It looks like B&W was headed for #1 before 2 was announced.

For a pocket "fad", this is one monster series.

I'm not apologizing for that.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Rynnec on May 24, 2012, 06:24:11 PM
I'm suprised (and dissapointed) R/S sold better than B/W and HG/SS. I assumed it would've been the lowest selling mainstream Pokemon title sicne it was when the fad was long dead.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Daxdiv on May 24, 2012, 06:28:35 PM
I just question why regular Gold and Silver wasn't on this list.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Kiddington on May 24, 2012, 07:39:58 PM
Quote from: Daxdiv on May 24, 2012, 06:28:35 PM
I just question why regular Gold and Silver wasn't on this list.

This.

Gold/Silver/Crystal (Gold and Silver especially; Crystal was about 1-2 years down the line) came around right at the series peak. Pokemon as a whole was probably at its absolute biggest when those games were released; at that point, the movies were still being given theater circulation (and making quite a big money off of them, I might add), the series was still pretty fresh and new to most people, etc. etc.

I'm curious to see what those numbers are. Probably still not as big as Red/Blue/Yellow, but I'm willing to bet it was extremely close. I'd be really surprised if Gen 3 actually beat those.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 24, 2012, 07:47:50 PM
Quote from: Rynnec on May 24, 2012, 06:24:11 PM
I'm suprised (and dissapointed) R/S sold better than B/W and HG/SS. I assumed it would've been the lowest selling mainstream Pokemon title sicne it was when the fad was long dead.
Well, keep in mind those are still selling and B&W is still young. I have no doubt they will overtake R&S eventually. R&S was a pretty big disappointment at the time but it seems each game since has been a marked improvement in sales.

B&W probably would have cracked 20mil if 2 wasn't announced.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: talonmalon333 on May 25, 2012, 12:41:12 AM
To be honest, I didn't even beat Ruby & Sapphire or Diamond & Pearl. They just weren't doing anything for me.

I also didn't play the remakes of the first two gens. Should I play 'em?
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 25, 2012, 12:44:50 AM
I played Red/Blue, then Gold/Silver then I came back with Heart Gold/Soul Silver. You can see many of the improvements the series has had over the years, and it even made me want to jump into B&W... But with B&W2 coming, I dunno about that.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Rynnec on May 25, 2012, 12:48:10 AM
I still got White, even with B&W2 coming out I thought I should play the original first, since this is the first instance of a Generation getting a "true" sequel.
Title: Re: The Pokémon Topic
Post by: Kiddington on May 25, 2012, 01:18:26 AM
Quote from: talonmalon333 on May 25, 2012, 12:41:12 AM
I also didn't play the remakes of the first two gens. Should I play 'em?

I can't vouch for HeartGold/SoulSilver (don't have those yet; still slowly working on Platinum atm), but as far as FireRed/LeafGreen are concerned... if you liked the Red/Blue/Yellow originals, I'd definitely give those a look.

They're basically the exact same game (with a few new bits sprinkled in and out; the VS Seeker, in particular, was the best early-game thing they came up with), up until you beat the Elite 4. After that, a whole new post-game sidequest is unlocked (the Sevii Islands), and I found it to be quite fun and interesting.

So yes, play them.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: gunswordfist on May 25, 2012, 03:03:41 AM
Enneresting about the post game. Stupid question: What is VS Seeker? Also, can gym leaders be rematched?
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kiddington on May 25, 2012, 03:08:43 AM
Quote from: gunswordfist on May 25, 2012, 03:03:41 AM
Enneresting about the post game. Stupid question: What is VS Seeker? Also, can gym leaders be rematched?

The VS Seeker is a device that allows you to rematch any trainer you want, at any time (provided that they're not located in a cave, Gym, or other dungeon; so basically, any trainer on any outside route is fair game). It's probably the best tool they've ever come with for training Pokemon, since as we all know, trainer battles give out far more EXP than fighting wild Pokemon.

No, you cannot have rematches with Gym Leaders in FR/LG. They can be rematched in Emerald, though (after you beat the Elite 4).
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Nel_Annette on May 25, 2012, 03:20:07 AM
The VS. Seeker is better than the stupid phone call system that shows up from time to time, anyway. Anyway, I recommend the HG/SS remakes. Very fun. The additions are actually pretty awesome.

And I am up waaay too late to make a good argument to get them.  :P But they are really good as far as the remakes go. They even have an item that switches all (well, most) of the bgm over to its original Gameboy music.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kiddington on May 25, 2012, 03:27:47 AM
I enjoyed the phone system in G/S/C a lot more than I did in Emerald. Of course, that could just be the nostalgia talking (and the fact that the VS Seeker didn't yet exist at that point, so I wasn't accustomed to using that as a method of training).
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Commode on May 25, 2012, 02:41:05 PM
HG/SS are probably my favorite versions, there's so much content in them.  I like the idea of being able to visit two regions in the same game, although I do wish the wild Pokemon in Kanto were at stronger levels.  There's no point in beating the Johto side of the game, then going over to Viridian Forest and catching a level 3 Pikachu.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Nel_Annette on May 25, 2012, 06:29:12 PM
It's things like that that make me wish that you had the ability to rechallenge entire gyms, and then have the option to either fight the gym with their original levels or their upgraded post-Elite 4 levels. That way, all your Pokemon could go through them to have a steady growth.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Commode on May 25, 2012, 06:50:33 PM
In HG/SS you have the ability to rebattle all 16 gym leaders, but not the trainers inside the gym.  All of them are at higher levels.  Also, you can rebattle the Elite Four twice per each region, for a total of four battles.  I think it'd be kind of cool to have a rebattle with Red as well.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Nel_Annette on May 25, 2012, 07:40:15 PM
Of course, the way to actually get those leader rematches is kind of a bitch. XD I mean, it's nice seeing them outside, but I shouldn't have to plan schedule's and shit just to get a rematch. I still haven't gotten Blue's number.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: gunswordfist on May 29, 2012, 05:01:11 PM
^^^Blue? He's supposed to be a different character than Red?
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Commode on May 29, 2012, 05:46:09 PM
Blue is your rival from Red/Blue/Yellow/Firered/Leafgreen, while Red is your character from the same games.  Roughly, Blue is Gary Oak, and Red is Ash.  In Gold/Silver/Crystal/HG/SS you play as a new character named Ethan, and near the end of the game you encounter Blue on Cinnabar Island, who then leaves and takes Giovanni's place at Viridian Gym.  After you beat all sixteen gyms and both Elite Fours Professor Elm tells you to go to Mt. Silver and find Red, who has a team similar to the one Ash had in the Orange Islands(except he has Venusaur and Blastoise, while in the anime they never got past Bulbasaur and Squirtle), including a high level Pikachu(in HG/SS he's a lvl. 88, the highest leveled Pokemon you encounter in any of the games).
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: gunswordfist on May 30, 2012, 01:32:16 AM
Shit, I have no recollection of Gary Oak being called Blue.  :whuh: Probably because I just remember naming him in the original games. I remember kicking the shit out of Pikachu. So damn easy. I don't care what level you are, you're still just a yellow bus riding rat to me.

So who here has fought Giovanni in one of the post Silver/Gold games? I forget what game it was and some of the circumstances. I just remember reading on wiki that you go back in time and fight him on some island, if that's accurate.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Commode on May 30, 2012, 05:56:34 AM
Gary wasn't called Blue, he was loosely based off Blue.  The anime is based off the game, not the other way around(except for Yellow).

And yeah, you can fight Giovanni in HG/SS, but you need a Celebi, which you can only obtain through some sort of Nintendo event.  Giving that the games are more than two years old at this point, I don't think Nintendo is still doing that event, so there is no way for you to do this anymore, unless you GameShark/Action Replay the game.

I hate that tactic btw, what's the point of event Pokemon?  If you miss that window where Nintendo offers them, you don't have another chance to get one.  I know Mew and Celebi are mystical and shit, but I think there should be other options for obtaining them.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: gunswordfist on May 30, 2012, 10:47:42 AM
Blah, close enough about Gary Oak. :sly:

Thank God my overachieving Pokemon maniac friend that was somehow kind of cool gave me Mew. It made some kid who overwrote my original file worth it. 151 FTW.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kiddington on May 30, 2012, 08:22:55 PM
Quote from: Comeau on May 30, 2012, 05:56:34 AM
I hate that tactic btw, what's the point of event Pokemon?  If you miss that window where Nintendo offers them, you don't have another chance to get one.  I know Mew and Celebi are mystical and shit, but I think there should be other options for obtaining them.

It's pretty much made the concept of "catching them all" absolutely impossible over the years. It was pretty easy to pull off in R/B/Y (thanks to the Mew glitch), and not overly hard in G/S/C either (not counting Celebi, obviously)... but once Gen 3 rolled around, they took the concept of event Pokemon to new ungodly heights. It wasn't just Mew and Celebi in that case, either; you had Lugia, Ho-oh, Deoxys, Jirachi...

I've never even understood the concept of it, really. If it's a marketing gimmick, what exactly is it marketing for anyway? I've never been to one of these Pokemon giveaways, so I don't know. Do you have to pay to get in or something? I guess that would explain it from a business standpoint, but it's still annoying for anyone who actually wants these Pokemon years down the line.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Rynnec on May 30, 2012, 08:54:58 PM
Quote from: Kiddington on May 30, 2012, 08:22:55 PM
Quote from: Comeau on May 30, 2012, 05:56:34 AM
I hate that tactic btw, what's the point of event Pokemon?  If you miss that window where Nintendo offers them, you don't have another chance to get one.  I know Mew and Celebi are mystical and shit, but I think there should be other options for obtaining them.

It's pretty much made the concept of "catching them all" absolutely impossible over the years. It was pretty easy to pull off in R/B/Y (thanks to the Mew glitch), and not overly hard in G/S/C either (not counting Celebi, obviously)... but once Gen 3 rolled around, they took the concept of event Pokemon to new ungodly heights. It wasn't just Mew and Celebi in that case, either; you had Lugia, Ho-oh, Deoxys, Jirachi...

I've never even understood the concept of it, really. If it's a marketing gimmick, what exactly is it marketing for anyway? I've never been to one of these Pokemon giveaways, so I don't know. Do you have to pay to get in or something? I guess that would explain it from a business standpoint, but it's still annoying for anyone who actually wants these Pokemon years down the line.

This wouldn't be half as bad if they'd provide other (official) means to catch the event Pokemon, but they don't.

I'll never get my Darkrai. :(
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Daxdiv on May 30, 2012, 10:11:20 PM
I remember when I hoarded event Pokemon. I got a good number of Celebi, Shiny Dogs, Jirachi, and Arceus on my Plat. Twas fun, even had a trading buddy on Bulbagarden that got me any shiny I wanted and seemed legit due to an exlpoit  with the RNG.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: gunswordfist on May 31, 2012, 12:42:31 AM
Lugia and Ho-oh are event Pokemon? ???
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Rynnec on May 31, 2012, 12:46:55 AM
Quote from: gunswordfist on May 31, 2012, 12:42:31 AM
Lugia and Ho-oh are event Pokemon? ???

Only for Gen 3, I think.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Daxdiv on May 31, 2012, 01:17:50 AM
The easiest way to getting Lugia and Ho-Oh in Generation 3 was to own the GCN games. But yeah there were events that Nintendo held where they gave out items that could give you access to certain Pokemon. here's a nice list of all the event Pokemon and ways they were obtained. (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Event_Pok%C3%A9mon)


I'm just glad that the methods we have now, going to a store to get them, is a lot better than just happening to travel to a Nintendo event, which is just held in one area.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: gunswordfist on May 31, 2012, 04:09:37 PM
Quote from: Rynnec on May 31, 2012, 12:46:55 AM
Quote from: gunswordfist on May 31, 2012, 12:42:31 AM
Lugia and Ho-oh are event Pokemon? ???

Only for Gen 3, I think.
Oh, because I remember getting Lugia and Ho-oh being really easy in Silver/Gold. There's no way to link up to get Pokemon from Gen 1 and 2 to 3 and beyond? I think I heard that.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Nel_Annette on May 31, 2012, 05:03:12 PM
Quote from: Daxdiv on May 31, 2012, 01:17:50 AM
The easiest way to getting Lugia and Ho-Oh in Generation 3 was to own the GCN games. But yeah there were events that Nintendo held where they gave out items that could give you access to certain Pokemon. here's a nice list of all the event Pokemon and ways they were obtained. (http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Event_Pok%C3%A9mon)


I'm just glad that the methods we have now, going to a store to get them, is a lot better than just happening to travel to a Nintendo event, which is just held in one area.

Hell, nowadays you can just Mystery Gift from the comfort of home for some of them at certain dates and time frames. Very much prefer that.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Commode on October 08, 2012, 01:37:31 PM
Anyone picking up Black and White 2?  I have a slight interest in them, but given that I got bored with the first games rather quickly I don't know if I should bother checking these out.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on October 08, 2012, 02:18:32 PM
If I had more free time that hasn't been already devoured by watching DVDs, I'd buy them. With the Pokedex being twice as big, and the stuff apparently being much different in comparison to the originals, I'm sure it'll be an improvement.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Nel_Annette on October 08, 2012, 02:49:37 PM
I'm on a budget, but that Genesect is a big incentive. >_>
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Commode on October 08, 2012, 03:19:16 PM
http://features.peta.org/Pokemon-black-and-white-parody/?utm_campaign=1012+Pokemon+Parody+Game+Facebook+Promo

They've really been hammering Nintendo this last year or two, haven't they?  Remember the Tanooki suit thing after the release of SM3DL?
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on October 08, 2012, 03:22:55 PM
I don't even know what PETA's message is. People who play Pokemon aren't being subliminally convinced to harm animals in real life. Really, it just feels like a bad attempt to claw its way back into relevance after over a decade of being treated as a bad joke.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Commode on October 08, 2012, 03:26:15 PM
They are headquartered right here in Norfolk too, I drive past their building every once in a while.  Also sometimes you'll hear on the news about people throwing old fish or steaks or something all over the front of the building, it's kind of funny.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Daxdiv on October 08, 2012, 08:35:52 PM
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Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: gunswordfist on October 09, 2012, 09:47:56 AM
How different is Black compared to White?
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on October 19, 2012, 10:41:05 AM
So, aside from Audinos, it's really hard to train your Pokemon. None of the wild ones offer much experience. And trainers are pretty slim.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Foggle on March 02, 2013, 01:03:26 AM
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Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 05, 2013, 04:01:59 PM
GameFreak is a fantastic game developer.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: talonmalon333 on March 06, 2013, 05:05:00 PM
So apparently there's this new Pokemon that was supposedly once a human and now carries a mask that resembles their human face. People are gathering these supposed "extremely dark and screwed up" connotations from this... as if they've never heard of common ghost folklore.

You know, 15 years ago, they created this Pokemon called "Cubone". And I don't think they'll ever get darker than that.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Rosalinas Spare Wand on March 09, 2013, 01:28:32 AM
I like how folklore and rumors are passed off as information in the Pokedex.

Lazy ass professors.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on March 09, 2013, 01:30:45 AM
Quote from: Rosalinas Spare Wand on March 09, 2013, 01:28:32 AM
I like how folklore and rumors are passed off as information in the Pokedex.

Lazy ass professors.
Since when did Ph.Ds mean anything in Kanto?
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Daxdiv on March 09, 2013, 02:01:13 AM
To be fair, most of the earlier entries do feel like they were written by little kids. Blame Oak for sending his grandson and his rival into the wild to collect data on these monsters.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on March 09, 2013, 12:23:40 PM
So, how are the stories in the newer games? Its not like I expect high-class story-telling or anything like that, but have they evolved a bit beyond sending out some 10-year-old to venture by himself into the wild and travel to strange new towns to get into fights with other trainers?

Granted that, its probably the simplicity and general lack of focus on the story of the early games that actually made them appeal to me in the first place, and why I actually managed to finish them compared to other JRPGs (as I can do without the pretentious narratives that plague 90% of the other games in the genre).
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: talonmalon333 on March 09, 2013, 12:53:18 PM
I hear Black and White added a few sprinkles of depth here and there.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 10, 2013, 05:00:19 PM
I heard positive things about the B&W story though I never heard about 2.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Avaitor on April 06, 2013, 06:28:52 PM
Check out Mewtwo's new look.

(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Fda694948dc1d33af1a8f5b8b2d7b871d%2Ftumblr_mkux5a1SFZ1qgplqjo1_400.png&hash=41a4aac7f247c3ce5e1d0859507100ed4a128371)

It's... new. I can't say I hate it, but it's new.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Nel_Annette on April 06, 2013, 07:37:43 PM
Mewthree? The experiment gone right?
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Rynnec on April 06, 2013, 07:48:02 PM
Quote from: Nel_Annette on April 06, 2013, 07:37:43 PM
Mewthree? The experiment gone right?

Mewtwo after achieving Super Saiyan 3.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 08, 2013, 01:45:40 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on April 06, 2013, 06:28:52 PM
Check out Mewtwo's new look.

(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Fda694948dc1d33af1a8f5b8b2d7b871d%2Ftumblr_mkux5a1SFZ1qgplqjo1_400.png&hash=41a4aac7f247c3ce5e1d0859507100ed4a128371)

It's... new. I can't say I hate it, but it's new.
They need a non-clunky design for Smash Bros.

I'm trying to help!
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: The Shadow Gentleman on June 17, 2013, 11:11:03 AM
Picked up White today.

Man, it's been so long since I've played any of my Pokemon games.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Commode on September 04, 2013, 02:50:38 PM
Playing the Generation 1 games(mainly Red and Blue) and exploiting all the glitches is so great.  With help from the internet, I've visited Glitch City, figured out how to progress in the game while skipping Pewter City Gym, made different Pokemon appear off Cinnabar based on the characters I chose for my name(if you put a capital "V" in the third, fifth, or seventh slot in your name, a level 149 Alakazam will appear), and even battled Professor Oak.  I just want to know who the hell discovered these glitches?  There's no way it was by accident, most of the glitches require very specific steps from the player to be pulled off correctly.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: VLordGTZ on September 04, 2013, 04:10:34 PM
Looks like the Kanto starters are getting Mega-evolutions in X and Y
Spoiler
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa51274b2bfd36c9eba6f-b2cc59e0ef85511aa5ed3ad88986348d.r9.cf1.rackcdn.com%2F11987%2F600px-003venusaur-mega__large.png&hash=f5bcf5f1e94387f4c58659c4ee2893fa2564ee54)
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa51274b2bfd36c9eba6f-b2cc59e0ef85511aa5ed3ad88986348d.r9.cf1.rackcdn.com%2F11987%2F600px-006charizard-mega__large.png&hash=9dadc122f245a12aacfe5531e09475f06621b88a)
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa51274b2bfd36c9eba6f-b2cc59e0ef85511aa5ed3ad88986348d.r9.cf1.rackcdn.com%2F11987%2F600px-009blastoise-mega__large.png&hash=848bc2eb2c04c7a750b10066294a39a789a68c8a)
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Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 04, 2013, 04:15:59 PM
Blastoise's Mega is kinda badass, but Charizard and Venusaur look really, really stupid.  :wth:
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on September 04, 2013, 04:43:52 PM
Wartortle > Blastoise
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Rynnec on September 04, 2013, 07:08:09 PM
Both are way cooler than Charizard.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on September 04, 2013, 07:12:46 PM
Charizard is still Fire/Flying even in Mega form. Therefore, he can go die from rocks.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 04, 2013, 08:46:19 PM
Yeah, I'm disappointed they didn't use the opportunity to give Charizard a dragon sub-type. I mean, if frickin' Ampharos can be a dragon type in mega-form, why wouldn't a pokemon that actually looks like a dragon not be one?

If they make a Mega Gyarados, they better make it a dragon type. That one should be obvious...
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Nel_Annette on September 04, 2013, 09:08:08 PM
Er, what? Venasaur is easily the most disappointing one.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: VLordGTZ on September 11, 2013, 04:04:28 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on April 06, 2013, 06:28:52 PM
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F24.media.tumblr.com%2Fda694948dc1d33af1a8f5b8b2d7b871d%2Ftumblr_mkux5a1SFZ1qgplqjo1_400.png&hash=41a4aac7f247c3ce5e1d0859507100ed4a128371)

It turns out that there will be a different mega stone for Mewtwo depending on which game you are playing.  The stone in Y will let you mega-evolve him in to the form we've already seen (the pic above) while the stone in X will let you mega-evolve him into a different form (which is a Psychic/Fighting type)
Spoiler
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Also,  Garchomp is getting a mega form as well.
Spoiler
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Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on September 11, 2013, 08:17:48 PM
The other Mega Mewtwo form looks pretty decent, I guess, but both forms are still kinda meh to me.

Mega Garchomp, on the other hand, looks pretty damn cool.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Daxdiv on September 11, 2013, 11:56:47 PM
While I do find the notion of giving my both my favorite and overpowered Dragon a Mega evolution, I will say that it does expand on it's already cool design. That and I kind of like it's ability more than it's original and hidden. I also kind of like how Mega Mewtwo X is more physical based than the other forme.

As for the other news from CoroCoro, I liked the revelation of Steel losing it's resistance to Ghost and Dark. My Gengar is smiling at the fact that it can now destroy mons like Metagross, and Jirachi with Super effective moves.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: VLordGTZ on October 02, 2013, 09:49:33 AM
It turns out that Charizard (like Mewtwo) will have two mega evolutions.  The one we've already seen is the evolution you get in Pokemon Y.  The picture below is Charizard's mega evolution in Pokemon X (In this form he's a Fire/Dragon type!!!!!!). 
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimage.noelshack.com%2Ffichiers%2F2013%2F40%2F1380716715-mega-charizard-x-official-art.png&hash=1c57a934ddccd9a15df4cbacf7c6e9bfd7bcbf71)
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Nel_Annette on October 02, 2013, 12:09:14 PM
Any incentive to get both versions is good to me.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 02, 2013, 01:42:16 PM
Mega Charizard X looks kind goofy too, but definitely better than Mega Charizard Y, and Fire/Dragon? Fuck yeah! I guess I know which version I'm getting now!  ;D
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 02, 2013, 04:34:06 PM
At least he's finally a dragon type.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: The Shadow Gentleman on October 02, 2013, 04:56:37 PM
One more reason to get X. And a 3DS...
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Daxdiv on October 02, 2013, 05:30:54 PM
The moment I saw Mega Charizard X in action in Origins was the moment I wanted one. Good thing in X I decided to go with Charmander as my Kanto Pick, while I think Y will get Bulbasaur if only for my nostalgia and the fact that Bulbasaur was the first mon I picked in Blue, so it going with my first pick of Fennekin in Y seems fitting for me.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 02, 2013, 05:34:30 PM
It's not every day you get to see Squirtle try to tear off Charmander's head.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Daxdiv on October 02, 2013, 05:36:22 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 02, 2013, 05:34:30 PM
It's not every day you get to see Squirtle try to tear off Charmander's head.

Friendly reminder that this is probably what fans wanted when they said "A more mature story" You happy with your wish?
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 02, 2013, 05:37:53 PM
Quote from: Daxdiv on October 02, 2013, 05:36:22 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 02, 2013, 05:34:30 PM
It's not every day you get to see Squirtle try to tear off Charmander's head.

Friendly reminder that this is probably what fans wanted when they said "A more mature story" You happy with your wish?
It was a bit... much. I'll admit.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Daxdiv on October 02, 2013, 05:48:31 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 02, 2013, 05:37:53 PM
Quote from: Daxdiv on October 02, 2013, 05:36:22 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 02, 2013, 05:34:30 PM
It's not every day you get to see Squirtle try to tear off Charmander's head.

Friendly reminder that this is probably what fans wanted when they said "A more mature story" You happy with your wish?
It was a bit... much. I'll admit.

It was Charmander's scream that scared me the most. This is not like Ash's happy-go-lucky adventures he's been on for over a decade... at all.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 02, 2013, 05:57:54 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 02, 2013, 05:34:30 PM
It's not every day you get to see Squirtle try to tear off Charmander's head.

Wow, does that really happen in Origins? Hmm, maybe I should watch the japanese version after all. I doubt TPCI would keep that in their dub...

Although, the english version of Pokemon Adventures keeps Green's Charmeleon cutting Koga's Arbok in half and Giovanni freezing and then killing those two Magmar, if I remember right, and that's printed under the Vizkids brand, so...maybe.

Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: VLordGTZ on October 02, 2013, 06:07:18 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on October 02, 2013, 05:57:54 PM
Wow, does that really happen in Origins?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAdGv89e0sE
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 02, 2013, 06:30:03 PM
....geez, I think Charmander's scream says it all. But it's not that bad, though, and I've read darker things in Pokemon Adventures. I think TPCI will probably keep the scene in the dub.

Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Nel_Annette on October 14, 2013, 12:39:31 PM
I'm liking the game so far, but not loving it. The routes in this game are awesome, as most of them seem to have something on them that makes them really memorable. And I really liked how they set up that fossil cave. The towns are kind of boring though. The gyms are just as easy as the ones in B/W, even though the levels seem to be escalating higher I keep finding myself at a higher level than the Gym Leader's best Pokemon. That may be because of the EXP Share, but that used to never happen.

And Team Flare's just kind of... stupid.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on October 15, 2013, 08:23:54 PM
So this sold 4 million copies worldwide in two days.

Remember when Pokemon was supposed to be a fad?
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on October 15, 2013, 08:44:52 PM
I thought that the main series Pokemon games always sold pretty well, both in Japan and overseas, so this news honestly doesn't surprise me too much.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Commode on October 18, 2013, 09:43:51 PM
So this Friend Zone thing is pretty cool.  I got a Gyrados from JD and a Magmar from Daxdiv, as well as a few other cool 'mons from Gaffers(Chestnaut, Braixen, a shiny Volbeat).  Anybody else trying it out?  My FC is 3566-1536-0510 for those who don't already have it, and I know my Friend Zone type is Poison and Silcoon and Drapion appear, but I'm not sure about the third.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Daxdiv on October 18, 2013, 09:58:06 PM
So my friend Zone is Fire then? I can live with this.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Nel_Annette on October 18, 2013, 10:27:06 PM
I beat the game yesterday and I have to say, while Kalos is a cool region and battling in 3D is awesome, overall I think this game has the weakest plot and gym leaders in the series. Team Flare barely seems to do anything before their big climax compared to previous antagonists (in terms of major takeovers compared to small encounters here or there), and their motivation seems a bit all over the place as to why they're doing what they're doing. Didn't really feel like there was enough of a build up to that final battle either. I think I was a bit spoiled by B/W/B2/W2. The gym leaders were really involved in the plot in that one, while here we barely know them for five minutes before we're done with them forever, barring Korrina and a scene or two with the fifth and eighth. Hello? Guys? Kind of have a team of vain, homicidal maniacs over here. Wanna do something about it? Like help the five kids fighting them?

Also thought those kids were pretty annoying too. I don't know, just constantly getting interrupted and herded about by Shauna, Tierno and Trevor with their friendship speeches got old really fast. Champion was a bit of a baffling choice as well, though I suppose I should be used to it being someone who we're introduced to once early in the game and makes another appearance later on at this point. The Elite Four in this game were freaking awesome though. May be one of my favorite Elite Fours in the series. Would like to see them mix up the types you face there even further in the future. Psychic, Steel, Dragon and etc. have been done to death there.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Daxdiv on October 19, 2013, 02:57:32 PM
Quote from: Comeau on October 18, 2013, 09:43:51 PM
So this Friend Zone thing is pretty cool.  I got a Gyrados from JD and a Magmar from Daxdiv, as well as a few other cool 'mons from Gaffers(Chestnaut, Braixen, a shiny Volbeat).  Anybody else trying it out?  My FC is 3566-1536-0510 for those who don't already have it, and I know my Friend Zone type is Poison and Silcoon and Drapion appear, but I'm not sure about the third.

I checked yours out and for some reason my mons were Silcoon and Swalot. Didn't check long enough to see Drapion.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: VLordGTZ on October 19, 2013, 04:46:30 PM
I finally finished Pokemon X.  I really like the game but there isn't that much to do in the post-game.  I've already caught all the legendary pokemon that were left, collected all the mega stones, collected all the TMs (except for the ones you get through the Battle Maison), and finished the Looker Agency stuff.  I wish they had added something similar to the Black Tower/White Treehollow or, at the very least, the ability to rematch the Elite 4 and Gym Leaders at higher levels.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 19, 2013, 07:17:05 PM
I am honestly shocked right now at how many awesome pokemon are so easily available early on in this game. Seriously, Bagon, Axew, AND Gible, all of them dragon pokemon with incredibly powerful final forms, are common and available to catch before you even need to challenge the 4th gym. Not to mention how easy it is to get other powerhouses like Khangaskhan, Tauros, Miltank, Pinsir, and, of course, the obligatory Snorlax, Lucario, and Lapras. This makes the game so much more fun for me, since I use a rotating team system when I play Pokemon games the first time through (with the restriction I can only catch the first pokemon I encounter in a route/area barring special cases) , and thanks to the EXP. Share working the way it did in generation one I am currently training no less than 16 pokemon all at the same time, all of them level 35 or higher at this point, and  I haven't even beaten the 4th gym yet!

My only problem is that there haven't been many of the new pokemon that I've caught that I became interested in using. I've got Delphox, Pangoro, Hawlucha, and Amaura, but that's about it right now. What I want to do is eventually challenge the Elite Four with only Kalos-native pokemon, so really I just need to find two more interesting and good ones to use. I've been thinking about grabbing Goodra whenever I find it, but I'm not sure what other one I should catch.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Daxdiv on November 15, 2013, 06:38:45 PM
In case anyone was curious Hitoshi Aragi designed a few of the new Pokemon this generation (http://hitoshiariga.deviantart.com/art/Pocket-Monsters-XY-413536751)

For the lazy, he designed the following:

-Pangoro
- Honedge
- Doublade
- Aegislash
-Inkay
-Malamar
-Tyrunt
-Tyrantrum
-Amaura
-Aurorus

I knew there was a reason I liked the Pangoro, the Honedge line and Tyrunt line. Now I'm just curious as to what mons James Turner designed this generation.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: talonmalon333 on March 09, 2014, 12:32:29 PM
I have a question for people here who play Pokemon games.

What do you guys think of using legendary Pokemon in your main party?
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 10, 2014, 04:08:46 PM
Boring.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kiddington on March 11, 2014, 02:35:36 AM
Quote from: talonmalon333 on March 09, 2014, 12:32:29 PM
I have a question for people here who play Pokemon games.

What do you guys think of using legendary Pokemon in your main party?

Bleh, I never do it. The only time legendaries are of any real use are in Battle Frontier-esque scenarios (when you're fighting equal-leveled opponents with an in-game AI that isn't laughable), but given that nearly every legendary is banned in those scenarios, it doesn't even matter. Otherwise, why bother? Most normal Pokemon are good enough in every other instance, and it actually gives a notion of challenge to raise a team from the ground-up.

For the hell of it, here's what my final team turned out as in SoulSilver:

Meganium (starter)
Ampharos
Mamoswine
Noctowl
Octillery
Umbreon

That team, while a tad weak (ugh Noctowl; it'd be sooooo much more useful if it was Psychic/Flying and not Normal/Flying) was more than good enough to breeze through everything but the Battle Frontier. I could've used legendaries; I caught both Raikou and Entei pretty early-on, and Lugia would've been far more useful against the Elite 4 than (at the time) Piloswine, but I still beat the game fairly easily.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: talonmalon333 on March 11, 2014, 12:32:23 PM
My thing is that I don't like grinding, and I find the legendary birds fun to use. Well, mostly Articuno. I know they intended him to be the weakest of the three, but it really didn't work out that way. He starts with Ice Beam which is one of the absolute best attacks in the entire game. He can also be taught some water attacks. Zapdos starts with Thundershock, and Moltres starts with Fire Spin. Clearly more than one of these birds got the short end of the stick.

Moltres also learns Leer when the other two learn Blizzard and Thunder. Wasn't this guy supposed to be the real strongest of the three?

The only other Pokemon games I played was the second generation. Didn't ever get any of the legendary dogs because it was impossible.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on March 11, 2014, 01:14:23 PM
I don't like using legendaries. I've always liked raising my team from the ground up rather than relying on over-strong/over leveled pokemon. Legendaries are kinda overrated anyway. A lot of normal pokemon are way more useful in battles, honestly. It also helps that I replay my older games with Nuzlocke runs most of the time these days, so I don't really even get a chance to capture them most of the time anyway.  :P

Quote from: talonmalon333 on March 11, 2014, 12:32:23 PM
Moltres also learns Leer when the other two learn Blizzard and Thunder. Wasn't this guy supposed to be the real strongest of the three?

They are all the same level when you catch them, so I don't think they intended one to be stronger than the others in the first place. Just because Moltres and Articuno are named the way they are in the U.S. doesn't mean anything concerning their strength, especially since their original names were Fire, Thunder, and Freezer. It did always strike me as odd at how poor Moltres' moveset was, though. They should have done a better job with that.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: talonmalon333 on March 11, 2014, 01:23:32 PM
Quote from: Cartoon X on March 11, 2014, 01:14:23 PM
They are all the same level when you catch them, so I don't think they intended one to be stronger than the others in the first place. Just because Moltres and Articuno are named the way they are in the U.S. doesn't mean anything concerning their strength, especially since their original names were Fire, Thunder, and Freezer. It did always strike me as odd at how poor Moltres' moveset was, though. They should have done a better job with that.

I didn't say anything about their names. It's just that I heard that, statistically, Zapdos is stronger than Articuno, and Moltres is stronger than Zapdos, so I figured that's the order they were intended to be in terms of strength. It's also the order that you can find them in, if I remember correctly. But I think it just came out in a way that Articuno was the best of the three, possibly because ice is such a useful energy type.

Moltres should have started with Flamethrower instead of Fire Spin, and should have learned Fire Blast after leveling up instead of Leer.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: VLordGTZ on March 11, 2014, 01:36:19 PM
Moltres, Zapdos, and Articuno all have the exact same base stat total of 580, so I think they are intended to be equal in terms of overall strength.

I used to use legendary pokemon a lot on my teams, but then I stopped because I found it to be way to easy to beat trainers with them.  Nowadays, the only time I use a legendary pokemon in a battle is when I fight the final boss of Pokemon XD: Gale of Darkness since his team is crazy overpowered IMO.

EDIT: Correction.  In Gen I, Motres did in fact have have the highest stat total of the Bird trio (followed by Zapdos and then Articuno). After the special attack and defense split in Gen II, their stat totals all became the same.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: talonmalon333 on March 11, 2014, 05:04:38 PM
Quote from: VLordGTZ on March 11, 2014, 01:36:19 PM
EDIT: Correction.  In Gen I, Motres did in fact have have the highest stat total of the Bird trio (followed by Zapdos and then Articuno). After the special attack and defense split in Gen II, their stat totals all became the same.

That's what I was thinking of, then. Plus, you don't get Moltres until Victory Road. I feel pretty sure that he was meant to be the best of the three, but he just sort of came out as being the worst.

And you really don't get the legendary birds until you start nearing the end of the game. Once you reach the Elite Four, those trainers are able to equal the strength of the birds. Plus, like I said, sometimes I found it boring grinding and leveling up six Pokemon. They make it hard to focus on strategy before grinding because then your Pokemon will end up in the 30s at the Elite Four, and they'll just get swallowed up.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kiddington on March 14, 2014, 01:12:21 AM
At least Moltres has decent TM capability. That's why I never really understood the griping when it comes to poor movesets...........as long as it can at least learn a few decent TM's, it's fine with me.

Honestly if you guys want the worst legendaries, look no further than the golem trio from Gen 3 (Regice is okay I guess, but good lord those other two). They were already losing their touch by then.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: talonmalon333 on March 14, 2014, 01:14:35 AM
Quote from: Kiddington on March 14, 2014, 01:12:21 AM
At least Moltres has decent TM capability. That's why I never really understood the griping when it comes to poor movesets...........as long as it can at least learn a few decent TM's, it's fine with me.

Fire hardly has any good TMs, though. I mean there's Fire Blast, but that's about it, and it's hardly a move that you can consistently use and rely on.

Honestly, my issue would be smaller if Moltres started with Flamethrower instead of Fire Spin.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kiddington on March 14, 2014, 01:20:37 AM
Quote from: talonmalon333 on March 14, 2014, 01:14:35 AM
Quote from: Kiddington on March 14, 2014, 01:12:21 AM
At least Moltres has decent TM capability. That's why I never really understood the griping when it comes to poor movesets...........as long as it can at least learn a few decent TM's, it's fine with me.

Fire hardly has any good TMs, though. I mean there's Fire Blast, but that's about it, and it's hardly a move that you can consistently use and rely on.

Honestly, my issue would be smaller if Moltres started with Flamethrower instead of Fire Spin.

Yeah but back in Gen 1 (which I assume we're talking about here, given that Flamethrower has been a TM since Gen 3), Fire Spin was like a guaranteed win if you could get it off. Back then any of those 2-5 turn moves had no break for the opponent to attack, so you could just spam it to no end until you knock 'em out.

Really the only generation it's at its most useless in is Gen 2 (Fire Spin was fixed, Flamethrower/Sky Attack no longer TM's, etc.), but that's a moot point since you couldn't actually catch Moltres in GSC anyway.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: talonmalon333 on March 14, 2014, 01:23:53 AM
Quote from: Kiddington on March 14, 2014, 01:20:37 AM
Yeah but back in Gen 1 (which I assume we're talking about here, given that Flamethrower has been a TM since Gen 3), Fire Spin was like a guaranteed win if you could get it off. Back then any of those 2-5 turn moves had no break for the opponent to attack, so you could just spam it to no end until you knock 'em out.

Guess my memory of the attack isn't good enough. That makes Moltres a bit cheap, doesn't it? Maybe he was the most powerful of the three, and not in the fun way like Articuno.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kiddington on March 14, 2014, 01:42:45 AM
Quote from: talonmalon333 on March 14, 2014, 01:23:53 AM
Quote from: Kiddington on March 14, 2014, 01:20:37 AM
Yeah but back in Gen 1 (which I assume we're talking about here, given that Flamethrower has been a TM since Gen 3), Fire Spin was like a guaranteed win if you could get it off. Back then any of those 2-5 turn moves had no break for the opponent to attack, so you could just spam it to no end until you knock 'em out.

Guess my memory of the attack isn't good enough. That makes Moltres a bit cheap, doesn't it? Maybe he was the most powerful of the three, and not in the fun way like Articuno.

Pretty much, yeah. Fire Spin isn't a power move but you could definitely win with it, even if its effect was laughably cheap. The only downside is that it' accuracy was just as bad then as it is now.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 07, 2014, 10:43:46 AM
 THE HOENN REMAKES ARE FINALLY COMING. (http://www.serebii.net/index2.shtml)

Pokemon Omega Ruby and Alpha Sapphire are coming out in November. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ywGSON9tNq0&feature=player_embedded)

The remakes of the Pokemon games have been consistently better than the originals, so I'm excited for these. If they can improve on those tedious water areas I'll be particularly ecstatic.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Nel_Annette on May 07, 2014, 12:08:24 PM
It's surreal that Pokemon I caught 11 years ago can finally return home to Hoenn. :)
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: VLordGTZ on May 07, 2014, 12:33:58 PM
Awesome!!!!
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Daxdiv on May 07, 2014, 03:10:58 PM
I'm hopeful that some elements of Emerald are incorporated into OR/AS like how Crystal was with , since whenever I feel like playing Hoenn, I always just restart my Emerald copy. Please, give me my Battle Frontier, Game Freak.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: gunswordfist on May 07, 2014, 03:16:17 PM
Hoenn's right after Crystal, right?
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Nel_Annette on May 07, 2014, 03:40:53 PM
Yeah, I like Emerald's version of the story best, where both teams are the bad guys and Magma's base is in an appropriate spot. Though I would say keep the R/S champion, because Emerald's sucked.  :immad:
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 07, 2014, 07:09:38 PM
This is the generation where I lost interest, so I would definitely like to see what gets changed or added.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kiddington on May 07, 2014, 08:24:41 PM
By far the least engaging games of the series, I was pretty meh to the news earlier (really I don't think I've ever had any desire to revisit Hoenn; it's such a boring region, especially with all the fucking water and surfing routes) but I suppose it probably is for the best. This facet of the series could definitely use a makeover.

Hopefully these are at least as good as FR/LG. One thing they definitely could do (but probably won't) to massively improve it is ditch the whole National Dex concept that seems to plague every remake we've gotten up to this point (and Emerald while we're at it, which is really the only game still worth playing out of the original 3). I mean come on, just let us have access to everything and not only about 200 or so Pokemon until the game is already basically over, by which point it doesn't matter. IMO most of the Hoenn Pokemon were pretty disappointing anyway, so I'd much rather have access to everything else.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Nel_Annette on May 07, 2014, 09:07:43 PM
They need to bring back the secret bases. That shit would be perfect for Street Pass.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 07, 2014, 09:47:14 PM
I've heard rumors that these won't be simple remakes, but new games with a new story set in the Hoenn region. That'd be pretty cool if that's the case, and would make these games more interesting to play than if they were just remakes (though I'll play them either way).

EDIT: Awp, no. The games are going to be full-on remakes after all. My bad.  :P
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Rosalinas Spare Wand on May 07, 2014, 11:08:50 PM
Fuck the haters, Gen 3 kicks ass and it's about time they get their time in the sun again.

I just hope the 3DS soundchip doesn't rape Hoenn's glorious soundtrack.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on May 07, 2014, 11:17:26 PM
Think they'll add a day/night cycle to this one?
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 07, 2014, 11:22:51 PM
It's pretty much standard for the games now, so I'd expect so.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on May 08, 2014, 02:58:37 AM
Quote from: Cartoon X on May 07, 2014, 11:22:51 PM
It's pretty much standard for the games now, so I'd expect so.
No, Hoenn's like Namek, where there's always sun and the people only get sustenance through water.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Nel_Annette on May 08, 2014, 03:14:29 AM
They're all plant people! Photosynthesis everywur!  ;D
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 26, 2014, 11:10:54 PM
So, Pokemon X Tekken.

Any thoughts?
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on August 26, 2014, 11:14:48 PM
I'm just wondering how they'll make the non-fighting type Pokemon work, if they'll be any at all.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 26, 2014, 11:21:23 PM
They'll all be fighting types except one Pidgey, who will be top tier.

I'm expecting different types, but not anything off the wall like Voltorb or anything.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Nel_Annette on August 26, 2014, 11:35:25 PM
Wobbuffet as a punching bag in the tutorial, I hope.  :P
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: gunswordfist on August 26, 2014, 11:52:45 PM
or brock.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Daxdiv on August 26, 2014, 11:58:22 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on August 26, 2014, 11:21:23 PM
They'll all be fighting types except one Pidgey, who will be top tier.

Sounds like Pet Shop in that Jojo fighter or even Iggy from ASB. :P

Still, I was hyped until I read "Arcade release" Well, screw you too buddy!
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 27, 2014, 12:12:34 AM
Quote from: Daxdiv on August 26, 2014, 11:58:22 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on August 26, 2014, 11:21:23 PM
They'll all be fighting types except one Pidgey, who will be top tier.

Sounds like Pet Shop in that Jojo fighter or even Iggy from ASB. :P

Still, I was hyped until I read "Arcade release" Well, screw you too buddy!
Well, better that than a Soul Calibur III situation where we get a broken release because of no arcade version for location testing first. I think it will help to get it out in arcades first to polish everything off.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Rynnec on August 27, 2014, 12:38:29 AM
Quote from: Daxdiv on August 26, 2014, 11:58:22 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on August 26, 2014, 11:21:23 PM
They'll all be fighting types except one Pidgey, who will be top tier.

Sounds like Pet Shop in that Jojo fighter or even Iggy from ASB. :P

Still, I was hyped until I read "Arcade release" Well, screw you too buddy!

Now you truly understand the pain of a fighting game fan. Let that be a lesson to you. :sly:
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on August 27, 2014, 01:26:48 PM
There's confirmation. (http://www.gonintendo.com/s/235985-pokken-tournament-won-t-limit-roster-to-just-fighting-type-pokemon)

Other types are on the way.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Nel_Annette on September 10, 2014, 10:45:16 AM
Remember little Wally? Sickly kid who caught a freakin' Ralts on his first try? Well, that Ralts doesn't become a Gardevoir anymore. MEGA GALLADE, GO!

(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/v/t1.0-9/10689780_702479356505021_4916052159848195456_n.jpg?oh=b32aa6fe4a1560b565391ce2a285c80d&oe=5487FAD7&__gda__=1419429345_17f5ac0a843214632dcc24d2b6f09a28)
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Rosalinas Spare Wand on September 10, 2014, 10:56:56 PM
Jesus christ look at how FABULOUUUUS the text on that page is. Wally took a lesson in looking bishounen as fuck.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on October 02, 2014, 05:32:15 PM
Mega Rayquaza might look kinda dumb, but boy does it also look overpowered as hell (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2014/10/02-1/video-pokmon-omega-ruby-and-alpha-sapphire-reveal-the-might-of-mega-rayquaza), especially with that Delta Stream ability it has, which is sure to be a force to be reckoned with in double/triple battles. Odd that it has a Mega form instead of a primal form like Groudon and Kyogre do, though.

Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Nel_Annette on October 02, 2014, 10:46:41 PM
Dumb? I thought it looked badass. Like, final boss of an old school RPG badass.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 23, 2015, 01:08:01 PM
Anyone keeping up with Pokken Tournament?

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8Cce-bCYAIXiKY.jpg:small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8CcfAhCcAAx0y2.jpg:small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8Cce17CMAACBWL.jpg:small)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8CMrqdCYAEKt8w.png:large)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B8CL3ScIgAA1vtX.jpg:small)

I would be very surprised if this doesn't prove to be very popular.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 20, 2015, 11:48:48 PM
Finally got myself a copy of Alpha Sapphire last week and started playing it a few days ago. Which makes it the first non-fighting game I've played since...Pokemon Y back in November 2013, and I still haven't even finished that. Anyways, I thought it would be neat to try and do a simultaneous run of both Sapphire and Alpha Sapphire and compare the differences/gameplay between them. I also decided to go through them Nuzlocke-style, which is my preferred method of playing the games since it adds a little more difficulty, and forces me to use Pokemon I might not use otherwise.

So far, I've finished beating Roxanne, and I have to say, I'm really enjoying playing Alpha Sapphire. The battles are more fast-paced and fun, and the obvious additions of improved graphics, motion, and 3-D and such in the Gen 6 game really add to the experience. Sapphire is a little more tedious in terms of grinding, and in Nuzlockes you pretty much have to grind to survive, but the way Exp. Share works in Gen 6 and the fact you get it early on makes leveling up easier and the grinding load much less. Of course, it also makes the game easier, so at some point I'll probably have to turn it off so I don't get too overleveled too early. Interestingly enough, though, I've fucked up more at accidentally fainting the first pokemon I encounter on routes in AS than I have in Sapphire (to the point where I've only caught one other pokemon in the game so far), and I've been really lucky in Sapphire in terms of my first encountered Pokemon (so glad I managed to get a Ralts again, though I wish I could've gotten one in AS too). Anyways, both games are similar in terms of basic story/encounters so far, but I only just defeated the first gym, and from what I hear there's bound to be some divergence down the line that I'm pretty interested in seeing.

Here are my teams so far:

Sapphire:

"JoJo"/Grovyle lv. 16
"Anasui"/Ralts lv. 13
"Irene"/Dustox lv. 13
"Koichi"/Whismur lv. 12

Dead Pokemon:

"Will A."/Zigzagoon lv. 4
"Enya"/Slakoth lv. 9 (Losing this one was a real bummer. Really wanted to use a Slaking for once.)

Alpha Sapphire:

"JoJo"/Grovyle lv. 18
"Pet Shop"/Taillow lv. 18

I'm very interested in seeing how my teams in both games evolve as my runthroughs of them go on. I chose Treeko as my starter in both games since that was my first starter back in my original playthrough of Sapphire, but it'd be interesting if that remains the only one of my pokemon that's common between the two teams by the time I finish the game.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 22, 2015, 12:09:20 AM
Second gym cleared in both games. Brawly went down way too easily; I basically two-hit KO'd his pokemon with just one of mine in both versions. That's kinda lame. I remember him being way harder to defeat when I used to play the gen 3 games as a kid, mainly Emerald since he had a Hariyama instead of just a Makuhita in that one IIRC. Hoping Wattson will be more of a challenge. As far as catching pokemon goes, I screwed up in AS again and fainted a Makuhita in Dewford Cave, so I'm going to have to wait a while to get a third pokemon for my team. In Sapphire, though, I caught a Sableye, which is interesting since it's the first time I've ever used one. It's pretty useful thanks to it's typing and moveset and it levels up quickly, so I'm glad to have caught it. I've been pretty lucky with encounters in Sapphire so far.

My teams after beating Brawly:

Sapphire:

"JoJo"/Grovyle lv. 16
"Anasui"/Ralts lv. 15
"Irene"/Dustox lv. 15
"Koichi"/Whismur lv. 15
"Miu Miu"/Sableye lv. 16

Dead Pokemon:

"Will A."/Zigzagoon lv. 4
"Enya"/Slakoth lv. 9

Alpha Sapphire:

"JoJo"/Grovyle lv. 20
"Pet Shop"/Taillow lv. 21
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 24, 2015, 02:44:14 AM
Welp, I wanted Wattson to be a tougher challenge and he certainly was. In Sapphire, at least. I actually lost two pokemon before I even got to him; my Dustox to a rider on cycling road and my Kirlia to the damn Winstrate family. Really disappointed about losing the latter particularly, since I really wanted to use a Gardevoir in my playthrough. As far as catching pokes go, I ended up snagging a Roselia, which might not have the best states in the world but certainly was essential for beating Wattson. Which took me, like, 5 times to do because none of my pokemon had moves that could deal heavy damage to his Magnemite and Magneton. I ended up relying on a leech-seed/mega-drain strategy and using up all my soda pops in order to take him out, though at least I didn't manage to lose any more of my pokes, miraculously.

So, Sapphire got much tougher to play, but Alpha Sapphire? Really goddamn easy. The Exp. Share overleveled my pokemon so much that my Grovyle took em all out without losing much health. Think I'm going to turn that off for a while so the game doesn't get too easy. I have to say though, Mawille city is super weird in these remakes. It's like some kind of building complex now. It totally threw me for a loop. Anyways, I got two more pokes in AS. The first was the Contest Pikachu you get as a gift for completing your first contest (which I won - go Swellow!), and the second was a Marill. The Contest Pikachu is really cool with it's special move(s) and neat costumes, and Lightningrod makes it a beast in the right circumstances. It's a lot of fun to use, and holds it's own quite well which is good since you can't evolve it into a Raichu. Marill was a good catch considering it's water/fairy typing, which is useful to have, especially with Flannery coming up.

My teams after beating Wattson:

Sapphire:

"JoJo"/Grovyle lv. 23
"Koichi"/Loudred lv. 26
"Miu Miu"/Sableye lv. 23
"Joseph"/Roselia lv. 25

Dead Pokemon:

"Will A."/Zigzagoon lv. 4
"Enya"/Slakoth lv. 9
"Irene"/Dustox lv. 18
"Anasui"/Kirlia lv. 21

Alpha Sapphire

"JoJo"/Grovyle lv. 31
"Pet Shop"/Swellow lv. 31
"Trish"/Pikachu lv. 30
"Miraschon"/Azumarill lv. 27
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Nel_Annette on May 24, 2015, 02:33:46 PM
With the new Mystery Dungeon game announced for later this year, I just realized that this may very well be the first year we haven't had a mainline game released in the US in quite a while.

Platinum - 2009
HG/SS - 2010
B/W - 2011
B2/W2 - 2012
X/Y - 2013
AS/OR - 2014
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Kiddington on May 26, 2015, 10:00:33 PM
Remember when I said years ago I hated Platinum and could never bring myself to finish it?

Yeah, no. I don't know what I was on, but I've come to appreciate this game so much more now that I'm older. There's really a lot to like here; the semi-creepy northern snow routes, and how the overarching Team Galactic plot ties into them, especially adds an interesting degree of surrealism to the whole experience.

I wonder if I'll ever come back to X/Y and have the same change of tune, but prevailing sense says I won't. Those games.....are just not very good.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Nel_Annette on May 26, 2015, 10:23:24 PM
I'd say what puts D/P/P towards the bottom of the list for me is just that Sinnoh as a region isn't very interesting except the snowy bits and the solar panel town, and Barry. Otherwise it's a pretty fun standard Pokemon game. X/Y is just... blegh.

Kalos isn't memorable to me. At all. They try do do a lot with it. They have swamp routes, autumn routes, snow routes, but the region never feels like it has its own identity beyond Poke'Paris. The rivals flat out suck, Team Flare is the dumbest team in the franchise (Lysandre especially), the Gym Leaders are there for about a second before they disappear out of the spotlight. I get that that's how it used to be, but B/W spoiled me with how involved in the fight against Team Plasma the Gym Leaders were. Gym Leaders should be trying to protect their region from whatever evil team.

Doubt I'll go back to that. The Kalos games are one of the very few where I don't own both versions.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Daxdiv on May 27, 2015, 09:52:47 AM
Gen V will always remain my favorite series/set of game. Unova was pretty balling and I will always praise the fact that Game Freak had to basically recreate the Pokedex from scratch. Sure there are some repetition (IE the monkeys, the genies. Well, at least until the genies got those alternate formes in BW2.) expies (Timburr line being like the Machop line, Rogenrolla being like the Geodude line pops into my mind.) and some design choices are questionable (But then again, when isn't that a problem. I don't see how ice cream and a trash bag is different than something based on eggs and magnets!) but it's still pretty solid outing of mons created (DON'T YOU LIKE GHOST ROBOTS!?). That and the story was pretty interesting as far as Pokemon games are concerned. Well, at least the first pair of games, the 2nd one.... not so much.  To me, this is the closet thing we'll ever get to a total reboot of the franchise.

As much as Gen VI made things easier, the product feels a little... rushed. Especially XY. ORAS felt like it had a bit more polish to it and also kinda improved some of my problems with the original RS games. I like Mega Evolution as a mechanic, even if it did give us some OP shit like Gengar, Kangaskahn, Metagross and Salamence to the table. However the pacing of the story is a little whacked. It felt like forever to get your next badge and it kept on talking about Mega Evolution until it gave you that Lucario. AZ came out of nowhere with little to no build up that his story didn't have that much of an impact on me. That and the casualization of this game. On one hand, it does make things easier like breeding, leveling up your team & EV training. On the other, it does make the main game a cake walk.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Nel_Annette on May 27, 2015, 10:18:40 PM
I think that B/W has the better overall story (and Gym Leaders/Champion), but B2/W2 has a much more interesting Unova with the added areas and more to do post-game.

I actually quite liked the slower pacing at the beginning of X/Y. There's a long stretch between Gyms 1,2 and 3, but after the whole Mega Evolution thing comes to an end and you beat Korrina the game seems to go right back to the usual pace of a Pokemon game with Gym Leaders and Team Flare encounters happening much more often. It feels like the game suddenly goes into hyperdrive to get you through the Team Flare story and that left me feeling rushed.

Personally I feel like Team Flare should have been scraped altogether along with AZ (he really does feel like an unneeded part of the story) and the post game story with Looker and Emma should have been the main story. Imagine if

Spoiler
Emma was your main rival, but the twist was that by the third Gym she went missing and the person in the suit appeared and by Gym six you found out it was her and she was being controlled by that scientist, who was using her to steal Pokemon. And then by the endgame you'd defeat him and knock some sense into her to get her out of the suit. Would have been a nice twist compared to what we're used to.
[close]
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on May 30, 2015, 10:15:49 PM
Beat Flannery in both games. The battle against Flannery was quite tough in Sapphire. Most of the new pokemon I caught that could have resisted fire type attacks were taken out long before I ever reached the gym, and so I was left with the team I've had since Wattson, two of which were grass types, so...yeah. I actually game overed the first attempt I did. On my second attempt, knowing that Torkoal's fire attacks wouldn't be much of a problem after it used it's first overheat, I decided to use Sableye against it after having my Loudred take Overheat before switching it in. I did not expect Overheat to OHKO my Loudred, which was a huge blow, since it was the strongest pokemon on my team, and being a normal type in a team half composed of grass types, my most versatile. After beating Flannery, I went to Route 111 hoping to catch a ground type to cover some bases...but I ended up catching a Cacnea instead. So now my team is 3/4ths grass types, the only exception being Sableye. I'm going to need to catch a water pokemon using a fishing pole on some route in order to proceed further in the game after Norman and stuff, and I hope I catch something with a good secondary typing, since my team is looking dangerously unbalanced.

On the flipside, Flannery wasn't much of a fight in Alpha Sapphire; my Azumarill pretty much took all her pokemon out with Aqua Tail and/or Rollout. In terms of battles, the game is just way too easy and I'm getting a bit annoyed about that. Not to mention there is no wait-time between the fourth and fifth gyms since you can immediately challenge Norman after Flannery if you follow May/Brendan back to Petalburg. However, I love most of the presentation, from the redesigned locations, cutscenes, and etc. I just wish the game was more of a challenge. I've only lost one of my pokemon so far, a Zubat I caught at Meteor Falls, and that was just because of a mistake on my part when training it rather than from a trainer battle. And while I still haven't caught many pokemon, my team is so overleveled and balanced that I don't feel the pressure. The game plays and looks so great, but it's so easy that I'm not having as much fun playing it compared to the originals, at least so far. I don't think I'll bother leveling up before challenging Norman. I have a Machoke at lv. 31, so I have a feeling that it's really not going to be much of a problem.

My teams after beating Flannery:

Sapphire:

"JoJo"/Grovyle lv. 30
"Miu Miu"/Sableye lv. 31
"Joseph"/Roselia lv. 31
"Gyro"/Cacnea lv. 23

Dead Pokemon:

"Will A."/Zigzagoon lv. 4
"Enya"/Slakoth lv. 9
"Irene"/Dustox lv. 18
"Anasui"/Kirlia lv. 21
"Avdol"/Numel lv. 16
"Gwess"/Slugma lv. 16
"Rikiel"/Swablu lv. 15
"Koichi"/Loudred lv. 30

Alpha Sapphire:

"JoJo"/Grovyle lv. 33
"Pet Shop"/Swellow lv. 33
"Trish"/Pikachu lv. 33
"Miraschon"/Azumarill lv. 33
"AC/DC"/Machoke lv. 31

In Box:

"Boingo"/Spoink lv. 19

Dead Pokemon:

"Rykiel"/Zubat lv. 18
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 05, 2015, 06:54:35 PM
Mewtwo has a new form - Shadow Mewtwo - which will be playable in Pokken (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-11-03/pokken-tournament-confirms-shadow-mewtwo/.94967).

I felt Mewtwo had enough forms what with two Mega Evolutions and whatnot, but it looks kinda cool, so I can dig it. Looking forward to the Wii U release of the game.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on November 13, 2015, 10:28:04 PM
Red, Blue, & Yellow heading to the 3DS eShop in February. (http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2015-11-12/pokemon-red-blue-yellow-games-headed-to-3ds-in-february/.95321)

Definitely picking up Yellow. Always regretted giving away my copy of that game, and I'm glad to have a new means to play it again.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: gunswordfist on November 13, 2015, 11:19:06 PM
I have played little to none of the game. I definitely still want to.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 26, 2016, 06:10:33 PM
This is either going to be the greatest game of all time, or the second strangest. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaDiIdBVh2Y)
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Nel_Annette on January 26, 2016, 07:01:40 PM
It horrifies me and I want it. I love LA Noire and the murder mysteries were the best part of the last two Assassin's Creeds, so I'm pretty much perpetually in the mood for mystery games.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: gunswordfist on January 26, 2016, 07:29:30 PM
2nd?
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on January 26, 2016, 08:13:06 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on January 26, 2016, 07:29:30 PM
2nd?
Okay, maybe it's 5th or 6th. But it's still top ten!
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: gunswordfist on January 26, 2016, 10:07:28 PM
Still want to know who's no. 1!!
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Foggle on January 29, 2016, 03:28:09 PM
Please sign the most important petition of our time. https://www.change.org/p/nintendo-nintendo-of-america-get-danny-devito-to-voice-the-english-version-of-detective-pikachu

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1cR4ADXBkII
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Foggle on January 30, 2016, 01:10:40 AM
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpre01.deviantart.net%2F5bb2%2Fth%2Fpre%2Fi%2F2016%2F028%2F7%2Fe%2Fdaily_243__detective_danny_devitochu_by_thealienbanana-d9pphsf.png&hash=07c1ee1cf862607598421670ea17220dea2e81bf)
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Commode on January 31, 2016, 05:22:57 AM
All that creepy Pikachu does is remind me of Seth MacFarlane's Ted.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Commode on January 31, 2016, 05:27:51 AM
Also I pre ordered this bad boy
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYh0HViWYAAVhNM.jpg:large)

i very nearly bit on one of the Animal Crossing New 3DS bundles a few weeks back, but I held off and now I'm glad I did.  I just hope these VC releases have all the glitches intact, gonna get my Missingno on.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Daxdiv on January 31, 2016, 06:14:30 AM
Quote from: Commode on January 31, 2016, 05:27:51 AM
Also I pre ordered this bad boy
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CYh0HViWYAAVhNM.jpg:large)

i very nearly bit on one of the Animal Crossing New 3DS bundles a few weeks back, but I held off and now I'm glad I did.  I just hope these VC releases have all the glitches intact, gonna get my Missingno on.

I am so looking forward to sitting on my TM for Thunderbolt, Ice Beam and all the other OP items and give it to everyone!


What, you mean to tell me you only used the glitch on Rare Candy? You poor fools, you could have had it all! Was pretty good for abusing in Stadium.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Nel_Annette on January 31, 2016, 11:56:10 AM
Yeah, I have the TriForce Heroes New 3DS XL but I couldn't help but pre-order the Pokemon one.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 09, 2016, 06:25:26 PM
Anybdy see this anniversary tribute yet? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nJPVIuCHgaU) I thought it was awesome.

Here's the original (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3SlUmr_T4g) in case you've never seen it.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: LumRanmaYasha on June 02, 2016, 01:40:37 PM
New promo for Sun & Moon. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XW14HO7C1Dg)

It's hilarious to me that the mascot of the Sun version is itself weak to fire types. :lol:
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: gunswordfist on June 02, 2016, 03:47:58 PM
I thought that would be brought up  :D
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Daxdiv on June 02, 2016, 06:08:21 PM
I like how the new Pokedex is powered by a Rotom and that eye marking makes it look like Whisper from Yo-Kai Watch.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Dr. Insomniac on July 11, 2016, 08:30:41 PM
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CnEswAwWEAANaBY.jpg)

I like that this is something that exists.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 11, 2016, 08:42:49 PM
So, is anybody else going to be watching the Pokken Tournament matches at EVO? I've really been wanting to play that game, but I still don't own a Wii U. However, with seasoned fighting game veterans like Justin Wong along with other pros entering the Pokken Tournament brackets (which helps to give it a huge boost in credibility among the FGC), I definitely want to follow these matches along with SF5 (and maybe Tekken 7) this year.
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Daikun on July 31, 2016, 05:53:03 PM
The TCG trainer video is amazing. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3mPIy6e3Lk)

Here's a riffed version. (http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x4mm924_planet-rob-riffs-poke-mon-trading-card-game-trainer-video_fun)
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Nel_Annette on October 18, 2016, 11:09:46 AM
The Sun/Moon demo is on the eShop now!
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Daikun on November 15, 2016, 11:45:16 PM
You guys might find this interesting: Butch Hartman draws Pokemon. And it's a blind challenge, since he's never seen these Pokemon before.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0UY959CJF8
Title: Re: The Pokemon Topic
Post by: Nel_Annette on November 22, 2016, 07:51:53 PM
This might be the soonest I've encountered a shiny after a game's release.

(https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15134552_10154063026991299_5521231581483298974_n.jpg?oh=073a4a27b4d8c71b9551085aaa7bca1f&oe=58D160D8)