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Good riddance. That had total shit written all over it.
You have no idea how happy I am about this news.
Hooray! :swoon:
Wow, Fox actually canned a MacFarlane project before it got off the ground and before it became shit?
2012, man. It's all starting to make sense now. :awesome:
Somebody create a thread on Toon Zone. They ought to know about this.
Huh.
Did anyone honestly expect this to get off the ground? Even with Seth McFarlane on board, I figured it was dead in water since day 1.
I honestly don't see The Flintstones ever making a full time comeback, maybe a few holiday specials if they feel generous.
Truthfully, I didn't think this was too bad of an idea. Granted, Seth's work on his shows does leave a lot to be desired, but only Family Guy really has the random cutaways that people tend to hate, and who says that he couldn't get a staff talented enough to bring the characters back to life?
Of course, it probably is for the best that nothing comes out of this, because the chances of it sucking is pretty strong. It's probably a mercy kill.
Also, I finally got around to buying season 1 while it's $15 at WalMart today. About time.
American Dad is actually pretty hilarious for the most part. Can't stand FG or what I've seen of the Cleveland Show, though.
I thought this was a bad idea because it'd basically just be another MacFarlane "family comedy" with The Flintstones instead of original characters. It'd be boring as hell.
The Flintstones needs no revival. What it needs is to be syndicated. I remember when we used to have more cartoons on tv like when Taz's show was on TNT. Those were the days.
Am I the only one who was indifferent to the whole thing?
I mean, the original show wasn't that great...
Quote from: Foggle on April 26, 2012, 12:26:18 PM
American Dad is actually pretty hilarious for the most part. Can't stand FG or what I've seen of the Cleveland Show, though.
That I can agree with, although I think MacFarlane's involvement with American Dad is a lot less than it is on Family Guy, though (other than voicing Stan and Roger, obviously). The writing team is totally different, I know that much (and it shows). Cleveland Show is supposed to be the same way apparently, although obviously that isn't helping in that case.
From what I understand about the Flintstones reboot, though, they were making it sound like this was supposed to be Seth's pet project, so I can imagine he'd be working on it a lot more than the others. And we all know how that would go; it'd basically be Family Guy set in the stone age, and who honestly wants that?
I figured it would've turned out all right, but I guess if the Fox execs weren't impressed with it, it must have been bad. I mean, it doesn't take a lot to please a Fox exec, after all the crap that they've aired over the years, and since Rupert Murdoch is known to approve of anything that'll make him money.
I was never a huge fan of The Flintstones, but I was at least curious to see how a new prime-time series on FOX would have gone. I mean, the shows' humor couldn't be too "adult" given that now The Flintstones is firmly established as a kid-friendly franchise with the characters schilling children's vitamins and breakfast cereals, and Seth MacFarlane has worked clean in the past (He's directed a few season 1 episodes of Johnny Bravo as well as the What-a-Cartoon! short "Larry & Steve"). However, regardless of how tame that that Seth's take on the series may have been, it would still basically be Family Guy in the Stone Age.
This is probably for the best. My feeling is that The Flintstones is one of those franchises that's best left in the era in which it thrived. Hanna-Barbera has done just about every spinoff, knock-off and variation on the series that can be done successfully over the past 4 decades. The Fruity/Cocoa Pebbles commercials or the occasional short/special are enough for me.
Quote from: Mr. Big on April 26, 2012, 02:14:15 PM
Am I the only one who was indifferent to the whole thing?
I mean, the original show wasn't that great...
Yeah, pretty much. Can't say I'm disappointed that it's dead.
I still think there's potential for a new Flintstones series, like if they took the writers from The Looney Tunes Show and work on Fred and Barney instead.
Or perhaps go the Mystery Inc route and make a Flintstones that's self-aware and pokes fun at its own legacy?
Aren't the American Dad writers the original Family Guy writers? That would explain a lot.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 26, 2012, 05:25:59 PM
Or perhaps go the Mystery Inc route and make a Flintstones that's self-aware and pokes fun at its own legacy?
That could work, too. And it's not like having to deal with irritating romantic bs in it would be such a problem, since the relationships between the Flintstones and the Rubbles has always been a key part of the show's legacy.
Quote from: Avaitor on April 26, 2012, 05:02:50 PM
I still think there's potential for a new Flintstones series, like if they took the writers from The Looney Tunes Show and work on Fred and Barney instead.
Perhaps, but I think that a new
Flintstones series would stand a greater chance of surviving on Cartoon Network than on FOX prime-time. NBC tried to bring
The Flintstones back to prime time Sunday nights back in the 80s and it was gone after about 3 weeks. In fact, in the wake of
The Looney Tunes Show and
Scooby Doo: Mysteries Inc. being greenlit, it's somewhat curious that CN hasn't attemped to revive
The Flintstones in any way, shape or form.
I wouldn't be opposed to a remake myself, but they have to find someone better for this than Seth MacFarlane. We all know what it would turn into. Look no further than Cleveland for proof; almost a carbon copy of everything bad and unlikable about late-run Family Guy, but with a new cast of thousands in its place. If I were a betting man, I'd almost guarantee his idea of a Flintstones reboot would turn out roughly the same way.
...and besides, I don't want it on Fox. The classic to clunker ratio on that network speaks volumes, moreso than most. And really, the kind of show Flintstones is, it doesn't fit into their current brand of comedy at all (IE the bill of goods that MacFarlane is trying to sell), without drastically altering the integrity of the series in the process. IMO, give the idea to CN; they have their problems like anyone else, but they tend to do right when it comes to this kind of stuff.
Get the Laff Riot guys back on Looney Tunes and the LTS writers on the Flintstones.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 26, 2012, 05:48:01 PM
Get the Laff Riot guys back on Looney Tunes and the LTS writers on the Flintstones.
Better yet, get the
Laff Riot guys back on both shows!
Quote from: Goldstar on April 26, 2012, 05:49:39 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 26, 2012, 05:48:01 PM
Get the Laff Riot guys back on Looney Tunes and the LTS writers on the Flintstones.
Better yet, get the Laff Riot guys back on both shows!
Too bad that makes sense, something CN is against in this current era.
Quote from: Goldstar on April 26, 2012, 05:49:39 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 26, 2012, 05:48:01 PM
Get the Laff Riot guys back on Looney Tunes and the LTS writers on the Flintstones.
Better yet, get the Laff Riot guys back on both shows!
I wish!
Those guys deserve it. 8)
Is The Looney Tunes Show still on? I watch a decent amount of CN(not a lot, but probably more than I should) and I haven't seen it in ages. Is there going to be a season two, or did they shitcan it already?
What's Tom Ruegger up to these days?
He'd be perfect for this.
Quote from: Comeau on April 26, 2012, 05:53:48 PM
Is The Looney Tunes Show still on? I watch a decent amount of CN(not a lot, but probably more than I should) and I haven't seen it in ages. Is there going to be a season two, or did they shitcan it already?
Yeah, there's going to be a season two from what I've heard.
Even Loonatics got a season 2, and that did much worse than this did. The trick will be to see if it lasts beyond that.
There are only two shows in the history of CN (not counting CN Real crap that was cancelled within days of debut) that haven't gotten to, at least, a second season: Sym-Bionic Titan, and Robotomy.
Unless I'm missing something, TLTS is giant-robot free, so they should be in the clear.
Quote from: Kiddington on April 26, 2012, 05:55:36 PM
What's Tom Ruegger up to these days?
He'd be perfect for this.
Making a Seven Dwarfs show for Disney Jr.
And I haven't been keeping up with the ratings, but TLTS seems to be doing too well to be shitcanned, or at least was.
Yeah, it was up until it was pushed to 8:30 by Level Up. And since nobody watches Level Up...
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 26, 2012, 06:09:46 PM
Yeah, it was up until it was pushed to 8:30 by Level Up. And since nobody watches Level Up...
It's hard to fathom all the wasted advertising dollars that are actually going into this.
I have never,
never seen CN promote something as much as they do Level Up. Not even CN Real (starring Andrew WK!) got this kind of personal attention from them. It's just... it's so wasteful.
I see.
Oh well, they couldn't keep the momentum for Mysterys Incorporated going either, so it's not surprising that they let another entity like TLTS go to the side due to poor management.
I just never see it anymore. It used to be on after the shorts in the mornings, but all I ever see now is Ben 10(I leave before 7, so maybe it's on then).
According to my Cox Cable guide, TLTS is on every weekday at 9:00am and/or 1 or 2:00pm.
Speaking of, did it (TLTS) ever end up getting any better as it went along, for those that were keeping track? Honestly, I just completely lost interest in it after about 10 episodes or so.
I tried to support it, but it just got too boring and sterile for me after a while. The show is way too dialogue driven for a Looney Tunes production (hardly any slapstick to speak of), and the writing just wasn't very good to make up for it, at least from what I remember.
Should I make an effort to give it another chance, or not?
It got better later on. And to be honest, my taste for slapstick kind of got killed by parody movies, so I'm all the more grateful for dialogue-driven humour.
IMO, the best material has been holdovers from Laff Riot.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 26, 2012, 06:24:51 PM
It got better later on. And to be honest, my taste for slapstick kind of got killed by parody movies, so I'm all the more grateful for dialogue-driven humour.
I wouldn't it mind it be dialogue-driven if the actual dialogue was, you know,
funny. That's really my main problem with it, more than the lack of slapstick. It just felt like really boring and safe humor, from what I remember.
...of course, again, all I have to go off of are the first 10 episodes or so, and those just did nothing for me. I guess I'll have to see if I like any of the later Season 1 stuff better.
I'm of the opinion that the original Flintstones should not have been kept alive as long as it was. The original show was great, although it became less good with the introduction of Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm. However, all the crappy spin-offs and specials they made throughout the 70s, 80s, and early 90s just ruined what was otherwise a decent cast of characters.
You all probably know that I'm the biggest Flintstones fan on here, but yeah, the last season or two became too silly and family-oriented for its own good, and most of the spin-offs and specials aren't worth remembering or discovering.
The final season wasn't horrible. Gazoo was stupid, but it had it's moments.
The specials, on the other hand, were terrible in every single way. The character designs were awful, the animations were full of errors and abuse of stock footage, and the stories are just Fred making an ass of himself and learning a lesson at the end. Also, why did Hanna-Barbera decide to make Pebbles and Bamm-Bamm adolescents occasionally?
But the worst by far were those two movies they made in 1993 where the kids get married and Pebbles has twins. They were, by far, the lowest point of the franchise for me.
You know, while watching some of season 1 again, I think like how Bendis's Ultimate Spider-Man run has already dated itself more than Stan Lee's original Spidey stories, the pre-cancellation run of Family Guy has failed the test of time compared to the original Flintstones.
Some of the dialogue on the show can be corny, yes, and the lack of continuity is grating, but there really are some great character bits and some jokes just never get old. Meanwhile, when I watch the original Family Guy episodes, it just feels like what it always was- just a cheaper, slightly more crass Simpsons substitute that thinks it's more clever than it actually is. Even now with FG's over reliance on cutaways and casual talk has more of an identity than it used to.
Something random I just noticed.
Quote from: Kiddington on April 26, 2012, 06:02:58 PM
There are only two shows in the history of CN (not counting CN Real crap that was cancelled within days of debut) that haven't gotten to, at least, a second season: Sym-Bionic Titan, and Robotomy.
Unless I'm missing something, TLTS is giant-robot free, so they should be in the clear.
UGH! Painful fact of the week. UGH!
Quote from: Avaitor on April 26, 2012, 07:12:40 PM
You all probably know that I'm the biggest Flintstones fan on here, but yeah, the last season or two became too silly and family-oriented for its own good, and most of the spin-offs and specials aren't worth remembering or discovering.
That's a given for any animated series. Isn't the Flintstones the longest running cartoon series or did The Simpson surpass it when I wasn't looking?
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 27, 2012, 05:50:13 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on April 26, 2012, 07:12:40 PM
You all probably know that I'm the biggest Flintstones fan on here, but yeah, the last season or two became too silly and family-oriented for its own good, and most of the spin-offs and specials aren't worth remembering or discovering.
That's a given for any animated series. Isn't the Flintstones the longest running cartoon series or did The Simpson surpass it when I wasn't looking?
The Flintstones only ran for 6 seasons. The Simpsons is on its 23rd last time I checked.
Quote from: Avaitor on April 27, 2012, 05:53:58 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 27, 2012, 05:50:13 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on April 26, 2012, 07:12:40 PM
You all probably know that I'm the biggest Flintstones fan on here, but yeah, the last season or two became too silly and family-oriented for its own good, and most of the spin-offs and specials aren't worth remembering or discovering.
That's a given for any animated series. Isn't the Flintstones the longest running cartoon series or did The Simpson surpass it when I wasn't looking?
The Flintstones only ran for 6 seasons. The Simpsons is on its 23rd last time I checked.
This is what I get for using childhood knowledge.
The Simpsons surpassed The Flintstones way back in 1997, with the Poochie episode no less. Where the hell have you been?
Sniffing glue, I'd wager. ;)
Hey, go suck a yellow Simpsons dick! :anger:
I would, but it's physically impossible.
Unless some weirdo out there makes plushies of Homer with a wiener on it....
Quote from: Comeau on April 27, 2012, 06:30:54 PM
I would, but it's physically impossible.
Unless some weirdo out there makes plushies of Homer with a wiener on it....
What about the Homer from this? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAqwdyrD_W4)
Since Seth's project is out of commission, WB is doing something else (http://www.deadline.com/2013/05/animated-flintsones-pic-adds-pro-wrestlers-to-its-bedrock) with The Flintstones.
And people thought MacFarlene was going to ruin the franchise's credibility.... :>
To be honest, I think it lost it when they were shelling out half-assed specials and awful spinoffs, and never recovered it since, but I guess that's just me. :sweat:
I forever blame the Rock calling John Cena's "Fruty Pebbles" as the main reason as to why this might be a thing.
I think this will be awesome! :D
I remember reading a survey a while back WWE sent out to gauge interest for projects in animation.
It's just funny to see how out of touch they are with the kids of today. Scooby Doo is one thing, but something as dormant as Flintstones or He-Man is an amusing choice for a crossover.
Wow.
Suddenly I just imagined a Wacky Races crossover in my head, and I really didn't want to. >_<
As previously stated, The Flintstones (the original series) only ran for 6 seasons. It only rivals The Simpsons in longevity if one adds up the many spinoffs/specials/knock-offs of the original series.
I get that people have been wanting Warner Brothers to do something new with The Flintstones, but a crossover with the WWE? Seriously? It's been years since I followed wrestling, but things change so fast in the pro-wrestling circuit that by the time this movie airs some wrestlers depicted in it will have switched sides, been fired or quit, and the project will already seem dated since animated projects have to be produced several months in advance.
Yeah, I don't see a huge market for this.
WWE has marketing to families in recent years. I'm sure a number of WWE fans will want to check this out. There are still Flintstones fans out there who have wanted see something new with for a while. I don't think its a guarantee this will be a smash hit DVD, but it'll get some attention I'm sure.
True, the WWE has a very loyal fanbase who will likely check out anything with their favorite wrestlers in it. But this still seems like a weird way to kick off a new series of Flintstones DTVs.
Actually, why not do this with Tom & Jerry instead? Somehow, that seems like a better fit, considering their past few DTVs.
So the Flintstones, ala MacFarlane, has officially been flatlined? Meh, whatever.
WWE in Bedrock? I guess Vince McMahon is that desperate to get the kids. First Scooby, now this. Like, what's his next trick? A crossover with the Jetsons?
Quote from: Avaitor on May 30, 2013, 04:33:42 PM
True, the WWE has a very loyal fanbase who will likely check out anything with their favorite wrestlers in it. But this still seems like a weird way to kick off a new series of Flintstones DTVs.
Actually, why not do this with Tom & Jerry instead? Somehow, that seems like a better fit, considering their past few DTVs.
I agree that it is weird. I wonder though if this is really going to be the first new Flintstones special. The Scooby-Doo one was announced around last year I think (may have been early this year I don't know). I haven't heard anything about it since. There could be other Flintstones stuff in the works that may be announced later.
Looks like Warner Bros. is trying again. (https://variety.com/2019/tv/news/flintstones-new-series-warner-bros-animation-elizabeth-banks-1203264684)
It won't involve MacFarlane this time.
Wonder what this reboot will be like, and will they still try to make it prime time?
It will be titled
Bedrock and will air on Fox and Tubi.
(https://deadline.com/2021/04/the-flintstones-adult-animated-comedy-sequel-series-bedrock-from-elizabeth-banks-in-works-at-fox-1234744878New%20info%20on%20the%20series.%5B/url)
QuoteBedrock will follow the Flintstone family two decades after the original, with Fred on the brink of retirement and 20-something Pebbles embarking on her own career. As the Stone Age gives way to a shiny and enlightened new Bronze Age, the residents of Bedrock will find this evolution harder than a swing from Bamm-Bamm's club.