I'm not going to lie, at certain times when I'm in the right mood, I find this to be my favorite of the various DC Batman series. Admittedly I had given this series more re-watches than even BTAS until I got the BTAS complete series set. Its definitely nowhere near as revolutionary as BTAS was, but it was such a captivating series, IMO. It easily could have turned into a cheap "teen drama" version of Batman (and god knows how terrible that would be), but instead it was crafted into something brilliant and even darker than BTAS, and Terry could actually be taken serious as a character to the point in which I could imagine him becoming Bruce's true successor as Batman when he grew older (and the episode Epilogue from JLU kind of confirmed that for me).
One thing I did notice about this particular series was that its later episodes referenced back a lot of earlier episodes, so it didn't feel quite as strictly episodic as BTAS did, but I kind of like that quality about it. Now, I don't want anyone to get the wrong idea, BTAS is the better series when all things are considered, and this thread isn't mean to pit this series against it in terms of quality, but I just wanted to give my evaluation of it as a sequel to BTAS (which is what I consider it to be).
Honestly, its my "personal" favorite of the DCAU series.
The first season is the best, not just because of the Powers storyarc, but there were some legitimately spooky stuff in some of the episodes from then that later episodes didn't really try to add.
Season 2 was fine, but all the school-based episodes hurt it a little. 3 was a bit of an improvement, but I admittingly haven't seen it full in years, so I can't decide if I like it better than 1 or not. I will say that my favorite episode from the show, "Out of the Past", came from season 3.
I'm still missing season 2 in my collection (since it pointlessly costs WAY more than the other seasons, same with JLU volume 1), but the first season is easily one of the best thing to come out of the DCAU. So much greatness in there. Season 3 was almost as good, with a lot of really good episodes.
That's not even bringing in ROTJ.
Glad to see some love for this show. Alot of DC fans treat this one like, the red headed step child of the DCAU. Well maybe, that honor goes to The Zeta Project, but not many know about that one......
One of the things that stand the most outta this series to me was the intro.....The imagery of it defiantly stood out, and it creeped the hell out of me!
The darkness of the show itself was something I wasn't use to at the time so, several episodes were able to make uncomfortable, and quiet honestly....scared.
Yeah, I'm a loser. :sweat:
Aww yeah, gotta bump this thread.
I still need season 2 of this and JLU to complete my DCAU DVD set, dammit.
I know its not as good as season 1 or 3 (especially 1), but I do love this show.
I really lucked out a couple of years ago. A local Target was selling all of the sets, and had them each for about $20, including the second. Since it has twice as many eps as the other two, I picked it up and ran through it all in a few weeks.
They promptly put it up to $35 the next time I went there, but the joke's on them. Season 2 is the weakest, since the focus on school-based stories wasn't called for and Max was a lame addition, but there's still some gold in there hills.
I still need to get season 3, though. Haven't found that in a while, and I couldn't afford it now anyway.
I've been re-watching a lot of Batman Beyond, recently. The show has aged really well. The NC was flat-out wrong when he said that it was one of those shows that was just trying to be dark for the sake of it like a pale imitator of BTAS. While it can't quite match the overall level of quality of BTAS (which has a lot more to do with the fact that Terry can never match Bruce Wayne as Batman), its still a great show and for a sequel to something as great as BTAS, its obvious that it can't top it, but it certainly does as good of a job as anyone could do with a series involving a new Batman. Really, its impressive enough that this show didn't turn out to be a piece of shit with a more teen-oriented hero taking the role of Batman, but it actually worked out quite well, and a lot of that has to do with the fact that Bruce Wayne is still a very prominent part of the show, serving much like a mentor-figure to Terry. I'm glad they didn't just put him in the back-seat and make him a very minor character because he wasn't physically up to fighting crime anymore. I like how they make him important in guiding Terry along through his missions, making it obvious that Terry (at least in his early days in the suit) wouldn't be able to survive without his assistance.
I also like that Barbra Gordon gets a good amount of time to shine in the series, especially since she's the only other character featured in the TV series who can really relate to Bruce in any way, being that they used to work together. Well, there was also that crossover episode where Terry meets the older versions of core members of the Justice League, but I don't really count other "outside" superheroes as people that Bruce could relate to at all.
If I had one gripe with the show, it was just that I didn't like any of the high school crowd in that show. I suppose they were purposely annoying and stupid characters just to represent how teens of any generation are usually morons, but being that most of them were Terry's friends they just kind of came off as too goofy to even be given a piece of mind in a Batman cartoon. Of course, with a show involving a teen Batman, its a given that its not going to be anywhere near as sophisticated as an adult Batman. Still, the show pulled off the concept of a new Batman surprisingly well, and IMO it fully deserves its spot on our top 65 animated series list.
As far as season 1 goes, which is all I've re-watched so far, my favorite episode was probably the one with Mr. Freeze, but I still have a few episodes left to go in it before I've finished it, so I may find another episode that I like better.
So, I'm going to watch The Call Pt. 1 and 2 today on Hub. Timeline:
As a kid, I've only seen The Call Pt. 1. For years, I was thinking, "Whoa, why did Superman kill Hawkman? Was it a test or something?" Terry preparing to try and take out Superman after he was seen killing one of the heroes was such a great ending to an episode. For all those years I never found out why...until a few months ago. And I wish I never did. Starro? Freaking Starro?! Are you fucking kidding me? And the fight against Superman and the rest of the league was so fucking stupid. Terry actually electrically charged his suit underwater....and didn't die. My God was that stupid. The Call part 2 also made me realize how stupid a fight between Superman and Terry could be. He should have been crushed in seconds but he somehow got away. I'm only bothering just so I can reenjoy the first episode and watch the first half of part 2.
So, I'm up to season 3, now. The series has been consistently great, for the most part. Its actually probably even a little better than I remember it. After I finish the TV series, I'll probably end up watching the movie, as well, and then finishing things off with the JLU episode Epilogue.
After that, I plan to re-watch Superman: The Animated Series. I decided to just revisit all of the DCAU series and even re-watch all the way up through JLU, as this is the closest that I'll probably ever get to reading the comic books (as in I'll probably never get the opportunity to read them, so I figure that the animated interpretations are the next best thing). I'll make it a point to skip Static Shock, though. Back when I was a kid I used to think it was OK, but upon trying to watch it now, I just downright hate it. I can't stand the characters and I despite its crossovers and it ends up dumbing down other, much better characters from the DCAU that wouldn't act as stupid in their own shows. Its very much a product of its time and was way too centered on trying to seem "hip and cool" for the younger crowd that it has easily aged the weakest of all of the DCAU shows, and even back when it came out it wasn't a very good show to begin with, IMO.
So, putting that aside, I've already pretty much watched and re-watched a shit-ton of BTAS through my complete series DVD set, and I'm not to far off from completing Batman Beyond. So, naturally that'll make me half-way done with my run through the DCAU shows and all I'll have left after this are STAS and JL/U.
Are you going to watch the Zeta Project as well?
Ah, I actually totally forgot that even existed. To be honest, now that I think about it, I've never watched Zeta Project before. The closest I've ever come to watching it is with the BB episode from season 2 which introduced the character (which I consider to be a pretty good episode), and later with the crossover episode in season 3 which I haven't gotten to re-watching just yet. I find it kind of funny that they just decided to do a spin-off of a character introduced in just 1 episode of BB.
Really, I have no idea whether the show is any good or not. I know that it had a really short run, but I don't know anything beyond that and have no idea what kind of reception it got. Do you know if it was any good? If so, then I might consider checking it out. If not, then I probably won't mind skipping it since I'm sure that it holds little relevance to the rest of the DCAU, story-wise.
Honestly, I didn't even really like the Zeta episodes in Beyond. The show did little for me when it was on, and after watching some of it now, I don't think it's all that good.
I honestly don't remember the show at all beyond the crossovers. It didn't last very long, but I assume it was decent.
Well, personally I did like the Zeta episode myself (the first one, that is; I still have to re-watch the crossover from season 3), so maybe I should at least give the show a try. I don't really expect much from it, though.
Quote from: Desensitized on November 16, 2011, 02:36:59 PM
I honestly don't remember the show at all beyond the crossovers. It didn't last very long, but I assume it was decent.
Besides just remembering the show was boring, but not remembering any images to back it up, I agree.
Also, WATCH LEGION OF SUPERHEROES, EK!!! I'm going to run into the ground about how great that show is. Probably the most underrated cartoon ever.
Even though I had a few episodes of season 3 left before I finished off the TV series, I jumped ahead of schedule and decided to re-watch the movie since I had the time, now.
Man, its just as great as ever. I think its really top-notch on all levels, from writing and story to animation and production values. The voice acting is great as usual, and Mark Hamil gives one of his best performances as The Joker. There are some nonsensical things here and there, and the method by which The Joker returns is pretty ludicrous, even for a cartoon. Yeah, putting your DNA into a microchip and implanting it on someone therefore affecting their subconscious and MAKING THEM LOOK AND TALK EXACTLY LIKE YOU sounds just a teeny-bit to far-fetched, don't you think? That said there weren't really any better alternatives that I could have thought of that didn't involve something as cliche as time travel (and in that regard I'm fine with having that convoluted plot point over fucking time travel), so on that point I could forgive the whole micro-chip thing by comparison.
And really, other than that the rest of the movie is consistently great. I really love how it handles the characterization of Bruce and Terry in this, and their relationship with each other as well. On top of that the action scenes are actually done pretty well here and hold up quite nicely, and the mature themes that the movie tackles really shows how much the writers could get away with on a DTV movie as opposed to what you would see in a regular TV episode, which probably one of the darkest plots that has ever been written and animated for anything in the DCAU.
In all honesty, as far as my personal opinion goes, I think that this movie is on par with Mask of the Phantasm in every respect, and both of those films are easily my favorite 2 things to come out of the DCAU by far.
Anyways, I should also be able to finish up watching the show either tonight or by tomorrow, after which I'll follow it up with the JLU episode Epilogue, and then I'm off to start re-watching STAS.
I thought how he was brought back was pretty ingenius.....but yeah, ridiculous. But BTAS got away with Clayface so it's not a big deal, imo.
So they finally started showed the beginning of the show last week. I haven't seen Rebirth since I was a kid and I either forgot most of it or missed most of it. I got to say that Bruce was WAY too willing to let Terry jump into a suit and fight futuristic supervillains. Seemed a bit odd to me and Terry was done with being Batman until he offered him 'the job', but what can you do? Also, never knew/forgot how Blight became Blight. I've only seen Powers in Inque's first episode since I've been watching it on HUB so that's a relief.
To be fair, Bruce DID try to actively stop him, by deactivating the bat suit after he stole it, at first. I think that knowing what its like to lose loved ones (in Bruce's case it was both his parents and in Terry's case it was his father) and also feeling somewhat guilty that it was someone from his company that caused the death of Terry's father, he kind of reluctantly let him use the bat suit to carry out his vengeance of sorts. After that incident, though, it was pretty weird of Bruce to come so quickly and offer Terry the job of the next Batman. It would have made more sense if Terry was more ambitious for something like that and decided to ask Bruce to allow him to have that responsibility, himself.
Also, I just feel that if this weren't for the fact that this show also had to be marketed to younger kids, Terry would have never been a high school student, because it just makes no sense for Bruce to get the next Batman to be someone who has stuff like that in their normal life getting in the way of what they can do as Batman. With Robin and Bat-girl they were just sidekicks so it was OK, but for Terry to be a full-time Batman it would have made more sense if he was someone a bit older and didn't have such "teenage" stuff to worry about. That's not to say that he would have to be that much more mature, as I liked the idea of him needing Bruce as a mentor, but overall it just feels strange and downright irresponsible of Bruce to expect a high school student to be able to deal with the pressure of being Batman. That said, since its a cartoon and doesn't have to be too realistic, Terry was pretty much created to be up to the challenge, so I guess in the end its just a minor gripe on my part.
So I watched all of Curse of Curare this week and thought about skipping watching it because I THOUGHT I saw all of it multiple times but apparently. So, Bruce married Barbara? Uh..what the hell?
There was never any indication that they ever got married, but instead Barbra implied that they were romantically involved for a period of time, until she got sick of the whole hero business whereas Bruce was not ready to give it up. That would fit in line with the last season of BTAS, where Dick Grayson went off to become Nightwing after leaving Batman and breaking up with Barbra, whereas Barbra as Batgirl tended to stay around and fight alongside Batman in many episodes of the final season. She also clearly had a very noticeable infatuation with Bruce/Batman, so it makes sense she would have had romantic feelings for him at one point in time. Of course, needless to say, in Batman Beyond we found out that it didn't last very long, anyways, which I could have guessed even from just having watched BTAS only.
I think she implied they got married when Terry asked if they were boyfriend/girlfriend and Barbara then made it sound like they were more than just that.
What do you guys like better. Mask of the Phantasm or Return of the Joker?
Mask of the Phantasm.
Both are incredible, though.
I'm not a very big Batman Beyond fan, but I fucking love Return of the Joker. Even though Mask of the Phantasm is one of my favorite animated movies of all time, I think I actually prefer RotJ.
I have to admit, I've gotten more repeated viewings out of RotJ than MotP, but both are brilliant animated feature films that do each of their respective series justice, which is saying a lot in both cases.
Mask Of The Phantasm might be nostalgia since it is what actually got me into the DCAU, but it's a legitimately great story. While I really like ROTJ, I think MOTP is the better general film. Something I would get newbies and complete haters of animation to watch, and something I bet would stick with them as well.
Did you guys ever see the Siskel & Ebert review of it? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_KcFFqLggY) It's a gooden.
I'm still a little surprised that Gene doesn't like Hamill as the Joker myself, but it is cool to see them give credit where credit is due otherwise.
Well, I had mostly thought MOTP was the better film and ranked it in my top 30 list, but honestly after having watched them both back to back recently, I honestly might have to give the edge to ROTJ, myself. I think both films are amazing, but something about the writing in ROTJ feels a little stronger to me, and I like how Bruce Wayne gets just as much focus in the movie as Terry and The Joker. In fact, you could argue that Bruce Wayne gets MORE focus in that movie than Terry, so it still feels like a true Batman movie. Also, if I had to compare The Joker in ROTJ to his appearance in MOTP, it honestly feels less forced to me in ROTJ, whereas it feels like it could have been any villain in MOTP but they just found a way to write The Joker in their for his sheer popularity.
That said, don't get me wrong, both films are fantastic, and I would recommend MOTP to just about anyone. I just find that over time, I have come to slightly prefer ROTJ.
While I probably prefer MOTP, I think ROTJ was one of Mark Hamill's best performances as the Joker.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on May 27, 2012, 10:00:49 PM
Well, I had mostly thought MOTP was the better film and ranked it in my top 30 list, but honestly after having watched them both back to back recently, I honestly might have to give the edge to ROTJ, myself. I think both films are amazing, but something about the writing in ROTJ feels a little stronger to me, and I like how Bruce Wayne gets just as much focus in the movie as Terry and The Joker. In fact, you could argue that Bruce Wayne gets MORE focus in that movie than Terry, so it still feels like a true Batman movie. Also, if I had to compare The Joker in ROTJ to his appearance in MOTP, it honestly feels less forced to me in ROTJ, whereas it feels like it could have been any villain in MOTP but they just found a way to write The Joker in their for his sheer popularity.
That said, don't get me wrong, both films are fantastic, and I would recommend MOTP to just about anyone. I just find that over time, I have come to slightly prefer ROTJ.
Oh yeah, The Joker is definitely much better in ROTJ.
I think my all-time favorite Joker scene is when he appears in the Jokerz lair and just kills one of the members in cold blood. It's like the true Joker has returned, and these imitators need to learn this.
If you're talking about the Joker, I don't think he was ever as creepy as he was in this scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTX4dLGILMI).
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 28, 2012, 07:46:46 PM
If you're talking about the Joker, I don't think he was ever as creepy as he was in this scene (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTX4dLGILMI).
I was just thinking about that scene. I can't help but think that reveal is funny because of that cheesy music. :D I just watched that part like 20 times.
I was just thinking about how 3 members of The Batfamily became Beyond versions of villains (2 of them being a stretch in that regard and one I won't get into at all)
My friends and I marathon'd BTAS through the first half of this summer. And after finishing that, we began (and are still watching) Beyond (though like BTAS, this is a rewatch for me, though I admittedly forget a lot of the episodes). We agreed our favorite moment was in the episode that I think's called "Disappearing Inque". At the end when Terry is tied up, and Batman arrives and battles Inque in that huge suit. Course, he loses. But man, hearing that BTAS theme again, updated for Batman Beyond while staying true to the theme's roots, going along with the scene itself, gives me chills. :P
One of my favorite Batman lines is the episode where the sound villain tries to make him think he's crazy and is hearing voices. In the end, after Terry asks how he knew he wasn't hearing voices, his response is that "He called me Bruce. In my mind, that's not what I call myself". It's funny cause I've come to refer to Bruce Wayne strictly as Batman, and Terry as Terry. After all, Bruce is the one who's in charge here, the one who's really the Batman. Terry is just another Robin to him. :P
EDIT: And I just realized that, without even thinking about it, I was referring to Bruce Wayne as Batman all throughout this post before before I even established that point. That should sum it up.
Have you seen the JLU episode "Epliogue" yet? Even though its a JLU episode, its actually the epilogue to Batman Beyond, and takes place roughly 15 years after the end of the TV series. Its a really good episode and it shows how Terry has matured to the point where he functions as Batman completely by himself. Bruce Wayne is still alive, but he's extremely old and you can tell that he's not long for the world anymore, even though the episode can only so much as imply it what with no writer ever wanting to strictly end up killing off Bruce Wayne/Batman. To me, though, that episode is a clear message that Batman can still exist as a legend and an icon even after Bruce Wayne's time. That said, it also shows that whoever is unlucky enough to take up the reigns and duties of Batman will have a lot of tragedy and despair to deal with in some way or another.
Of course, I always felt that Terry's problems were more reminiscent of a character like Spider-Man's than Batman. I mean, stuff like wanting to get married but avoiding it for fear of endangering his loved one is something that's far more like Spider-Man than Bat Man, as Bruce would just avoid it without question and accept that he has to be unhappy for him to carry out his responsibilities as Batman. Then again, Terry was never meant to replace Bruce Wayne, but just to carry on the legacy of the cape and cowl. I actually think it was a smart move by the writers to make him a completely different type of hero than Bruce was as Batman, and it would be boring and lead to no chemistry between the 2 characters of Terry was the same exact sort of character. If that were the case, we wouldn't have gotten that awesome mentor and protege relationship between the 2 which I found to be the main driving force of Batman Beyond, personally.
The idea is supposed to be that Bruce Wayne has lost everyone he's ever been close to in one way or another. Often times from his cynicalness. Some of his loved ones just die, like his parents, Alfred and Commissioner Gordon, but otherwise, check out who's still around. Dick Grayson dropped the Robin alias after graduating to become his own agent as Nightwing, Barbara Gordon and Tim Drake left the mantle after the Joker's demise and hardly ever talked to to him since. He lost the chance to be happy with Andrea Beaumont, Selina Kyle, Talia Al Ghul, and who knows how many other potential women. And it's easy to assume that he left the Justice League out of his resentment to leaving Gotham's side and joining their team full time.
Terry is the latest in the long line of people to meet and experience Bruce Wayne, a brilliant man who's far too cold and adventurous for most people to handle. The series hints towards whether or not he may fall into that darkness, but we see by "Epilogue" that he never does. The entire series is almost like a sad ending for Bruce and a bittersweet start for Terry, when you think about it.
Well, the one clear bright spot that the episode pointed to was how Terry would always stick by Bruce's side until he died, so its not like Bruce would be completely alone on his deathbed. After all, Bruce is "like a father" to Terry. Also, Barbra Gordon wouldn't hesitate to come to his aid, as can be seen in both the TV series and Return of the Joker.
I haven't seen that episode of JLU yet (currently watching Justice League). Because of that, I kind of avoided the rest your post, EK, in fear of spoilers. :P
If the comic books canon counts, don't expect Grayson to be at his deathbed at all.
What happened with Dick and Bruce? They mentioned very briefly, I believe in ROTJ, that he and Bruce did not end on good terms, but that was it.
Quote from: Avaitor on August 10, 2012, 09:12:25 PM
What happened with Dick and Bruce? They mentioned very briefly, I believe in ROTJ, that he and Bruce did not end on good terms, but that was it.
I'll find the link. I conveniently came across the scan of that exact scene a little bit after I read Hush Beyond. I actually don't count it as canon myself, especially since one villain's family got changed and of course this will be a major spoiler for the comic.
First thing about the Batman Beyond comic: Never mention the Batman Beyond comic.
http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/2388095.html?thread=78840447 (http://scans-daily.dreamwidth.org/2388095.html?thread=78840447)
Found it. I believe Barbra only mentioned the rift the two had in the 1st Curare episode. In ROTJ, she just said a line about the stories Nightwing could tell him or something like that.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on August 10, 2012, 09:30:37 PM
First thing about the Batman Beyond comic: Never mention the Batman Beyond comic.
I don't think Hush Beyond is bad at all but I'm guessing the scan I posted is why it would be hated.
My god, those character designs look hideous. Who's idea was it to make the future Batman suit look like it was being worn by a weak, scrawny old man?
:D The art change surprised me as well.
Wait, so has Batman Beyond actually been officially made a part of the Batman canon in the comics? Because if I'm not mistaken, BB was always an original concept for TV, so Terry could have only been added into the comics later on.
I meant the TV to comic book art change. So yep, just like Harley Quinn, Superman X and Phantasm, they are all made for TV creations that later go on to comics. And they are all also my favorite characters of that kind.
Oh and Beyond universe is a seperate line of comics from the regular DC books. They just recently recontinued Superman Beyond and Batman Beyond. Think of the comics as sequels to Batman Beyond.
I picked up the first issue of the Batman Beyond miniseries they put out a year or two ago. The hideous designs and weak story didn't entice me to continue reading.
Continuing our Batman marathon, my friends and I finished Beyond, and just saw RotJ. Movie's just as awesome seeing it a second time.
We're gonna watch Mystery of the Batwoman soon. Any opinions on that one?
Meh.
Oh no. :shit:
I hold it in higher regard than the majority, but it really isn't that good.
Be sure to watch Chase Me, though. That's easily the best part of the whole DVD.
I believe it has as much effort put into it as a standard Scooby Doo movie, but that's just me.
Do you guys think any of the other BTAS films can hold a candle to MotP?
Subzero doesn't, but it serves as a fitting resolution to Freeze's arc... before they took him back.
Subzero is definitely worth a watch. To me it has the level of quality of a decent BTAS 2-parter (not great, but decent). It doesn't even come close to MOTP or ROTJ, though.
Mystery of the Batwoman was just boring. It wasn't downright bad or anything....just completely uninteresting. It had the same animation, art-style, and voice actors as BTAS and the other BTAS movies....but it just didn't feel like BTAS, if that makes any sense.
Either way, even looking at it on its own, its just a dull movie that suffers from a dull story and dull characters. It felt like a half-assed after-school special at best, IMO.
The TNBA episode with Mr Freeze in it was pretty disappointing. They kind of turned him from a vengeful broken heart to an unlikable asshat. It ruined the ending of SubZero, IMO.
His Beyond episode was better, though.
Quote from: Avaitor on September 16, 2012, 01:11:11 AM
The TNBA episode with Mr Freeze in it was pretty disappointing. They kind of turned him from a vengeful broken heart to an unlikable asshat. It ruined the ending of SubZero, IMO.
I can't completely remember, but was that the episode where he started destroying priceless items and other stuff because he wanted other people to suffer the way that he did for his lost wife? Because, in all honesty, I really liked that episode. I'd say I enjoyed it more than the movie for sure (which I said made for a decent 2 or 3-parter, but nothing more than that, really).
QuoteHis Beyond episode was better, though.
I loved how Beyond handled him. It made sense from a continuity standpoint and they still managed to make you feel a ton of sympathy for this guy despite transitioning back into a bad guy yet again. They also did the smart thing of killing him off in this episode (yeah, you never actually see him die, but since he never returns in the series, I'm just going to assume that he did), so that way no writers could bring him back yet again and run him into the ground. The scene where he blocked Terry from coming to his aide (which inadvertently saved Terry's life since he would have been caught in the destruction of the crumbling building had he taken the time to save Freeze), because there was nobody who really cared about Freeze and nobody left in the world who he cared about, was suitably tragic, IMO.
And I loved what Bruce had to say about Mr. Freeze before and after that incident. I watched that episode again about a year ago and before that, I haven't seen it since I was a kid so I got to really appreciate it.
Batman films:
MOTP: Excellent, one of the best superhero movies ever
Sub Zero: Pretty good, on par with most of the better episodes of the TV show
MOTB: Decent, better than the worst episodes of the show but around average
ROTJ: Excellent, almost on par with MOTP to me
In my opinion, they're all worth watching at least once.
Oh yeah, and the final appearance of Mr. Freeze in BB in the DCAU is a classic episode.
Unless Sub Zero has anything to say about it, I would've preferred if Mr. Freeze's last appearance was the episode of BTAS when he was in that block of ice with his wife.
When they brought him back for the New Adventures, it started getting lame. And it only got worse when he turned into a head with spider legs. That was just absurd.
You didn't like his Beyond episode?
Quote from: Avaitor on September 17, 2012, 12:47:24 PM
You didn't like his Beyond episode?
I did. I'm just not sure if it completely made up for his lackluster appearance in the New Adventures.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on September 17, 2012, 01:02:50 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on September 17, 2012, 12:47:24 PM
You didn't like his Beyond episode?
I did. I'm just not sure if it completely made up for his lackluster appearance in the New Adventures.
Well, it returned him to his original portrayal of a lonely man who is robbed of whatever break he's close to having.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on September 17, 2012, 12:40:37 PM
Unless Sub Zero has anything to say about it, I would've preferred if Mr. Freeze's last appearance was the episode of BTAS when he was in that block of ice with his wife.
The ending of Sub Zero is way better than that ending, IMO. I think that would have been the best place to take him out of the series.
Not sure if this is really the right place to post this. But since we were talking about it here earlier, I'll just do it. Any of the admins can move this post if they want... But anyway, I got around to seeing Mystery of the Batwoman. My opinion: it was alright.
It was far from remarkable, but for what it is, I enjoyed it. Don't think I'll ever go back to it, but it was worth a single watch.
And was Kevin Conroy sick when he voiced Batman for that movie? He sounded off. :P
Yeah, MotB is that "Not bad but nothing remarkable" film.
How the hell did we miss this? (http://www.worldsfinestonline.com/2013/10/superman-75-animated-short-nabs-new-york-comic-con-debut-upcoming-dc-nation-short-update)
QuoteIn other DC Nation news, The World's Finest has exclusively learned that Bruce Timm and Darwyn Cooke are set to reunite on an upcoming Batman Beyond DC Nation animated short. While we can not currently confirm if the short will be a single-installment or the start of a series, we can confirm it is set to debut in 2014 during the 75th anniversary celebration for Batman. Cooke will take the design and storyboard lead on the short.
WHOA!
Neat! Though I wouldn't get too worked up about it yet. It'll probably only be about as long as other DC Nation shorts, a 1-2 minutes long kind of thing. It'd be nice if it was a series of shorts though.
Remember this?
Quote from: Daikun on February 23, 2014, 02:14:44 PM
QuoteIn other DC Nation news, The World's Finest has exclusively learned that Bruce Timm and Darwyn Cooke are set to reunite on an upcoming Batman Beyond DC Nation animated short. While we can not currently confirm if the short will be a single-installment or the start of a series, we can confirm it is set to debut in 2014 during the 75th anniversary celebration for Batman. Cooke will take the design and storyboard lead on the short.
Well, the
Batman Beyond short is out! (https://movies.yahoo.com/video/batman-beyond-short-film-192211473.html) :)
I love how many versions of Batman they reference at the end.
One minute and nineteen seconds of pure awesomeness.
Quote from: Cartoon X on April 19, 2014, 07:25:48 PM
Remember this?
Quote from: Daikun on February 23, 2014, 02:14:44 PM
QuoteIn other DC Nation news, The World's Finest has exclusively learned that Bruce Timm and Darwyn Cooke are set to reunite on an upcoming Batman Beyond DC Nation animated short. While we can not currently confirm if the short will be a single-installment or the start of a series, we can confirm it is set to debut in 2014 during the 75th anniversary celebration for Batman. Cooke will take the design and storyboard lead on the short.
Well, the Batman Beyond short is out! (https://movies.yahoo.com/video/batman-beyond-short-film-192211473.html) :)
I love how many versions of Batman they reference at the end.
That was so damn corny. Good to see BATB Batman though.
i had no clue that this was heavily infuenced by akira.
The Complete Series is coming to Blu-Ray on October 29. (https://twitter.com/TheEricGoldman/status/1151943184550752256)
If it sells well, the show could come back for a new season. (https://twitter.com/TheEricGoldman/status/1151949116101951488)
I am liking these sets, but I can't convince myself to buy them, since I'm mostly pretty happy with my DVDs.
I'm also not sure if I want a continuation, given Timm's recent output.
A new short has premiered at DC FanDome.
Watch it here. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=INlo3XzQSIo)
That was a real treat. Instead of just a short, can DC please just do entire series of this?
'60s Batman MST3K with BTAS Batman and Beyond Batman is something I never knew I needed so badly until now. :shakeshakeshake: :shakeshakeshake: :shakeshakeshake: :shakeshakeshake: :shakeshakeshake: