Thread for the greatest cartoon ever created (including the future) ;D
Hey, hope you don't mind that I moved the thread to the CN board.
It's okay.
Quote from: Avaitor on November 15, 2011, 12:02:19 PM
Hey, hope you don't mind that I moved the thread to the CN board.
Oh, right. No problem.
I never understood why it suddenly came back on Toonami during its final days, but I didn't really care because I was just glad to see it back.
It didn't have a lot of substance, but it was certainly a visual treat. Definitely the weakest of Tartakovsky's work, but not horrible at all. The late Saturday night timeslot also seemed perfect for it, and I don't know why.
Wish I had the money to buy the DVD's. For whatever reason, I've been really wanting to watch this again (I don't even know why, though; I was never really "into it" to begin with. It was always just sorta "there" for me).
I'm happy to have the entire series on DVD. First (and only) series I've collected and completed actually.
While it's not the deepest cartoon by any means, it does has its charm. It's the kind of show were you can pop a bag of popcorn, select an episode that appeals to you, and just watch it.
Quote from: Rynnec on November 16, 2011, 01:24:12 AM
I'm happy to have the entire series on DVD. First (and only) series I've collected and completed actually.
While it's not the deepest cartoon by any means, it does has its charm. It's the kind of show were you can pop a bag of popcorn, select an episode that appeals to you, and just watch it.
It sure is.
What's everyone's favorite episode? Mine was Jack vs. The Zombies. I loved when one of my little brothers was watching tv with me and I got to watch it for the first time with him. It has some of the best action in the series.
Also, I saw the episode where Aku challenges Jack to an unarmed/no powers fight a couple of months ago. It was one of the episodes I missed and now I saw why people loved it. Such a fun episode.
I love "Birth of Evil" and the one with the ninja with the black and white fight. Oh, and the three blind archers one. That was also epic.
So many freaking good episodes.
I didn't really pay much mind to the Three Archers episode. That is, until I watched it another time some years ago, not expecting much but instead got a pleasant surprise. One of those, what the hell was I thinking? moments. I could just watch the way those archers move around looking for Jack after he disappears and how their ears move around. It's just great to watch. My favorites besides the two I named:
The Egyptian monsters episodes. Some of the foes that Jack can't beat himself.
The 8 robots. Again, Jack contacts the heavens for strength. Hmmm...just noticed that he does that a few times.
The first episode of the best sidekick ever, The Scotsman. Their bridge fight made me go :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o Also, that redneck robot pig made me and my brother lol like crazy.
The Dome of Doom! The monster voiced by a wrestler (I believe the late Macho Man Randy Savage) was another villain with personality that was snuck into an episode.
The 300 episode.
The monk episode. I used to watch episodes, hoping that the forest Jack was walking through was the one where the two monks would pop out of and fight Jack. One of the best, if not the best, unarmed fight in the show.
The rock monster. We got to see one of the most cruel displays by Aku without him actually being in the episode. I thought the animation was interesting. This is also another episode I really appreciated over time.
That episode with the I believe green..or was it blue? Morpheus type sword character. Jack goes on an adventure to reach yet another time portal and faces one of his toughest opponents yet.
Yeah, I know I named a lot, but I consider all of these episodes to be on the same level. I need to get the final season DVD. I believe I still haven't seen some episodes.
Comics coming in October. (http://twitchfilm.com/2013/07/welcome-back-samurai-jack.html)
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Quote from: Rosalinas Spare Wand on November 15, 2011, 08:12:16 PM
I never understood why it suddenly came back on Toonami during its final days, but I didn't really care because I was just glad to see it back.
It didn't have a lot of substance, but it was certainly a visual treat. Definitely the weakest of Tartakovsky's work, but not horrible at all. The late Saturday night timeslot also seemed perfect for it, and I don't know why.
Wait. Weakest of Tartatovsky's work? I don't think so. It was his first dramatic series, which prepped him for Star Wars: The Clone Wars, mind you, and the serial format seemed to work. Some of the character designs, mostly for monsters, looked like they were inspired by Maurice Sendak, IMPO.
Daikun: I may take a look at the SJ book when it comes out, though I may not be too thrilled with having to fork over $4 an issue from IDW.
Guys!! GUYS!!! Guess who's back?!!
http://spinoff.comicbookresources.com/2015/12/02/samurai-jack-to-return-for-new-season-on-adult-swim/
Wow! Great news!! :joy:
I...!!! No words. 2016 is the greatest year of animation.
VERY excited for this! This will be the first western action cartoon to be made specifically for adult audiences in a long time, and more importantly, we'll finally get a proper conclusion to the series, one that it deserves. This is one of my most anticipated new animated series of next year, now.
Quote from: Cartoon X on December 04, 2015, 02:51:46 AM
VERY excited for this! This will be the first western action cartoon to be made specifically for adult audiences, and more importantly, we'll finally get a proper conclusion to the series, one that it deserves. This is possibly my most anticipated new animated series of next year, now.
Not sure if true or serious. Also, has it been confirmed that it'll be a "mature" series?
And I'm not even sure even I would say your last sentence, with Part 4 coming out next year.
Quote from: gunswordfist on December 04, 2015, 03:08:29 AM
Quote from: Cartoon X on December 04, 2015, 02:51:46 AM
VERY excited for this! This will be the first western action cartoon to be made specifically for adult audiences, and more importantly, we'll finally get a proper conclusion to the series, one that it deserves. This is possibly my most anticipated new animated series of next year, now.
Not sure if true or serious. Also, has it been confirmed that it'll be a "mature" series?
Well, the new season is being made for [adult swim]. For adults. Maybe it's not the first adult-aimed western action cartoon, but at the very least, it's still the first one being made for [adult swim] and Toonami.
I admit, I forgot that Part 4 is coming next year. So, let's say
Jack is my second most anticipated, then. :sweat:
Hmmm, it might be aimed at adults but I don't think it'll have a TV-14 or higher. They might be trying to get the same kind of crowd that view Sym-Bionic Titan on the block.
Ah good, you came back to your senses. :sly:
Quote from: gunswordfist on December 04, 2015, 03:08:29 AMQuote from: Cartoon X on December 04, 2015, 02:51:46 AMVERY excited for this! This will be the first western action cartoon to be made specifically for adult audiences, and more importantly, we'll finally get a proper conclusion to the series, one that it deserves. This is possibly my most anticipated new animated series of next year, now.
Not sure if true or serious. Also, has it been confirmed that it'll be a "mature" series?
He was likely serious about it, regardless of his previous knowledge about previous action-oriented cartoons for adults. (
Jonny Quest, perhaps?) Considering the age gap, it's easy to misconstrue or blur the line between "adult" and "kiddy" content over the generations. (
The Flintstones, at its prime, was considered an "adult" cartoon. Nowadays, however...)
Yeah, I forgot stuff like Johnny Quest was originally made for adult audiences. Not to mention Vixen came out earlier this year, even though that was only a mini-series. Still, a regularly aired action cartoon for adults like Samurai Jack season 5 will be is a rarity, and is something to be pretty excited about, especially if it can pave the way for more adult-oriented action cartoons getting made.
It would be nice if this could also lead to a ST season 2 as well. If Genndy can close off both his series that would be really cool.
Considering that Cartoon Network wrote-off SBT, I don't think it's possible for it to get a season 2. :(
Yeah, it would be nice if Sym-Bionic Titan could get a revival too, but I think there are more legal complications in the way of making that possible, so I'm not holding my breath on it happening. Same for Megas XLR, as much as I would love to see more of it. :(
I'm not the hugest Jack fan, but I'd be lying if I said that I wasn't excited for this.
And I guess revivals of millennial favorite cartoons are indeed becoming a thing. I wonder if this means that the Courage specials are back on track.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on December 04, 2015, 08:35:58 AM
It would be nice if this could also lead to a ST season 2 as well. If Genndy can close off both his series that would be really cool.
[adult swim]/Toonami seemed to like Sym-Bionic Titan, so I hope there's some chance there.
I had no clue Johnny Quest was originally aimed at adults.
It was in the same way that, say, Andy Griffith was. Hanna-Barbera's primetime shows, really, their earlier output in general, were written to appeal to the family audience, which skews a little older and all-encompassing than just kids stuff.
Expect a preview in June. (http://www.annecy.org/news:a1364)
New info (and poster) on season 5. (http://toonamifaithful.com/news-samurai-jack-to-be-10-episodes5-hour-movie)
Jack still isn't one of my favorites, but I really am excited for this. It already feels like the conclusion that fans deserve.
I'm glad it's getting an ending. It deserves one.
But I do wish Sym-Bionic Titan would get the same opportunity.
I would have never guessed it would be ending in a 10 episode season. But of course I can't complain because the show is finally getting the ending it deserves.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 15, 2016, 10:56:56 PM
I'm glad it's getting an ending. It deserves one.
But I do wish Sym-Bionic Titan would get the same opportunity.
Maybe one day.
CN wrote off SBT. Sorry, but it won't happen.
Quote from: Daikun on June 16, 2016, 12:30:04 AM
CN wrote off SBT. Sorry, but it won't happen.
Who owns it now?
Quote from: Peanutbutter on June 16, 2016, 05:48:05 AMWho owns it now?
I don't know. I'm not really sure what happens to CN shows when they're used for tax write-offs.
Season 5 behind-the-scenes video. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT6yhhfiUh8)
Season 5 premiere date: March 11 (https://twitter.com/CabooseJr/status/823389273000996867)
New Season 5 teaser. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKD6Pp0yqx0)
Also, it'll air at 11:00 now instead of 11:30.
EDIT: Another teaser! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mN0EVcfFAAc)
My, oh my. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VSrv_n4tw7w)
What we figured might happen is finally confirmed: Greg Baldwin will be Aku. (http://www.polygon.com/tv/2017/2/9/14560830/samurai-jack-preview-season-5)
Quote"Ever since seeing Conan the Barbarian in 1982, Mako's voice has just been instrumental in my life," Tartakovsky says. "When he passed away — he was that character — he was a classical actor doing this monster and that was the magic. I thought for a while, what if I didn't replace him at all? And that was too much. So Greg Baldwin stepped in. Phil's amazing, but Mako did something, and the mimicking of that is hard."
Also, Adult Swim posted this sweet clip (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMIZD-JSf5k) on their YouTube channel.
Good. He fit into Iroh in Avatar, Baldwin can certainly do well as Aku.
The backdoor schedule (http://adultswim.x10.mx) states that season 5 will have encores on Wednesdays at 10PM.
Quote from: Daikun on March 01, 2017, 02:41:31 PM
The backdoor schedule (http://adultswim.x10.mx) states that season 5 will have encores on Wednesdays at 10PM.
Whoa, what? Toonami is actually spreading out on AS's schedule? Nice!
(I'm aware it won't be Toonami officially, but good to see AS actually doing different things with their lineup for once. It's completely fair with how long the Fox reruns dominated Saturdays.)
We have a geek-themed bar here that's throwing a premiere party. They're doing a marathon of the original show now, but I won't head over until a little before the premiere starts.
I think I mentioned this before, but Jack wasn't one of my favorite CN series, yet I'm very excited for this. Mainly because it seems to have turned out how Genndy wanted it to.
Premiere was amazing! The art, the fight choreography, the storyboarding, brand new villains with fun personalities.....everything great about the original run is here. Amazingly enough, no TV-14 level violence yet though there was some interesting implied nudity and disturbing hallucinations.
Will Adult Swim upload Genndy's Q and A on their site?
Fantastic premiere! Although I do miss Jack's sword, but I would not be surprised if he finds it again by the finale.
I'm particularly interested in the fact that Jack hasn't really aged in the 50 years since we last saw him. That's a pretty unique twist to traditional time travel stories. I wonder if this is how Genndy sets his rules, or if Aku had any control in this.
Quote from: Peanutbutter on March 11, 2017, 11:50:02 PMWill Adult Swim upload Genndy's Q and A on their site?
It's on their YouTube channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3XMCgp4OjUQ
Out of the people who retweeted my Samurai Jack tweets, at least two had swastika avatars. I'm surprised that even Nazis like Samurai Jack too, considering it's about a Japanese guy played by a black voice actor. I guess it should be heartwarming that this show can bring together people of all political stances.
Oh yeah, this episode's blogged. (http://animationrevelation.com/readables/?p=6307)
I thought this first episode was solid. I like Samurai Jack well enough. I grew fond of it as I rewatched the episodes a few years ago. To be honest I didn't like it much as a kid. Too quiet for me.
As for this episode, I started enjoying it more as we saw more of the daughters and then once the assassin showed up. I like Jack the show the most when there's some fun and humor. I was worried this was gonna be all angst, but once the assassin showed up it felt more like the show I want. I'm curious to see more of the daughters. That one that was named is gonna be more important than the others, isn't she?
Nice impressions doc! Glad to see you'll be blogging the season. I though the premiere really did it's job well, giving plenty of awesome action while moving the story forward in a darker direction that feels like a natural extension of the story. Like you said, it updated itself to adapt to the modern television climate but still retained the essential qualities of what made the show what it was. The show balances humor and drama as flawlessly as it ever did.
I kinda wish we didn't hear Aku's voice at all during this episode. I would've preferred if they kept him absent until the climax. I think that would have made his absence in this episode all the more disturbing. It's amazing how much more menacing a presence he is when he's not onscreen. I mean, let's face it, Aku was the butt of a lot of comedic relief even from the beginning. It was sometimes hard to take him seriously. In the premiere though...something about how crazy Aku's followers are and how haunting their destruction and murders are does a wallop in establishing how evil and sinister his influence on the world really is.
My biggest question from the episode is who the samurai/shogun looking silhouette Jack keep PTSD-ing about is. Is it representation of himself, or Aku? One thing I can definitely guess though is that the one daughter that was named and fascinated by the outside is probably going to have a redemption arc and be on Jack's side before the season is done.
But like you, I also wonder, that once Jack is able to go back to the past, could he really stay there? After spending 50+ years, most of his life and probably twice of what he had lived in his own time, would he really fit in there? Or is Jack doomed to be a man out of any place in time? I'm hoping the series touches upon this idea before it's over and doesn't just end with Jack defeating Aku and everything being settled with a happily ever after.
Next blog is up for those thirsty as Aku's daughters. (http://animationrevelation.com/readables/?p=6310)
Aku's "therapy" was hilarious. :lol: Good thing they started the episode with that, because it would feel sloppy on the pacing if it was just after Jack's fight against the lady ninjas. If I'm not mistaken, this was the first time we've ever seen Jack forced to kill a human woman. He's fought and killed at least a couple men I know, like two of the bounty hunters from that episode with that colorful squad of them and that princess. Jack honestly thought he was facing robots once again. I'm guessing Aku went with robots for most of the fifty years that passed because they'd be more easily durable and be sent back out after being repaired. But we know from the last episode he's sending out humans as well. It feels like the Daughters of Aku will be neutralized after next week, I wonder who will come after Jack next?
What I love most was the parallels between Jack and Aku. Funny as those scenes were, on a deeper level it shows how much maturity the show has in showing both the hero and villain in deep states of depression from not truly defeating the other. Any run-of-the-mill cartoon would show Jack being sad while having Aku party 24/7. But Genndy understands the importance of emotional depth with the themes he's using.
It's funny to think that back in the day, the show couldn't even say die, but here we are showing honest-to-god blood, and Jack nearly committing seppuku.
The Dot and Line had an interview with Greg Baldwin (https://dotandline.net/samurai-jack-greg-baldwin-new-aku-interview-mako-21ee0139bd34) on voicing Aku and Mako's other roles.
Interestingly, the two never even met.
I wasn't expecting to see Aku again so early into the season, but it's great to see he's as much of a goof as ever. The contrast between his silly depression and Jack's psychological ptsd trauma is great. I think it's also pretty clear he has no idea about the "daughters of Aku" or at least the very least doesn't care considering how much he's lamenting the fact nothing he's done has ever been able to get rid of Jack. I agree with Marquis that Greg Baldwin just doesn't sound like Mako and that does take me out of it a bit, which is why I was hoping Aku would be seen and used sparingly this season, but at the same time I can still headcanon it as Aku's voice changing because of all the stress he's had to endure dealing with Jack these past 50 years which is a fun way to think about.
The episode itself was a great action scene and it was interesting to finally see Jack take a human life and get red blood on his hands. I don't have the same problem as Marquis that Jack taking human life isn't interesting because he's killed sentient life before because Jack himself has never seen robots the same way and even though there were sympathetic ones like X-9 it's not like Jack ever learned their stories or understood their had humanity before he destroyed them. For Jack, this is clearly the first time he's taken a recognizably human life - a young life at that - and that means something to him. I agree though that it would be interesting for them to explore the idea that the daughters parallel Jack in them being raised from childhood to defeat their foe and I'm hoping they do address that. I don't think the daughters will all be taken out next week since the leader of the sisters was clearly being set up for more of a role, but next week looks to be like another exciting fight scene and after that episode most of the trailer footage will have been used up so there's no telling what direction the season will go in after that.
I am still geeking out over Spongebob doing a Sammy Davis Jr. impersonation. Probably my favorite Aku henchman ever already.
Episode 3 bloggoos. (http://animationrevelation.com/readables/?p=6313)
The flashback with the Emperor is the best part. Would be nice to see Jack's dad in a massive fight during a flashback at least one more time before the end. I almost thought Ashi was the girl killed last episode because it went by so fast. But sure enough she was the last one Jack neutralized. I don't know if the two sisters she had that were knocked off are still alive, but I sure hope she is because a lot of buildup from before will feel incredibly anticlimactic.
I don't follow the theory Wednesday mentioned in the review. I'd sooner believe Ashi becoming Jack's lover than replacing him in finishing off Aku. She wasn't in the preview at all, so we'll see how it goes next time.
Jack's Dad was an actual samurai.
You know, I thought a daughter would be defeated once per episode. Took me by complete surprise that Jack just finished them like that (he *did* warn them, though, and it *was* in self-defense). I thought the whole "reflection of who you really are" flashback foreshadowed him finding a non-lethal solution, not the other way around. XD The fight scene was still cool. Jack used the white of the snow the way they daughters used the dark of the temple. Felt like after last episode, he'd struggle a bit more though.
I hope Ashi's alive though. Would feel a tad anticlimactic for them to single her out and do nothing with that.
Stunning use of white and silhouettes in yesterday's episode. So minimalist and yet so gorgeous. Tartakovsky is a genius at staging and choreographing fight scenes.
I don't prescribe to the theory that Ashi will be the one to kill Aku, but I do think she'll eventually become an ally of Jack and a leader for a future without Aku (assuming that this timeline isn't rewritten by Jack going back to the past).
I do think a few of them could still be alive. With how the set of them being more human was done, I don't see why they wouldn't do something with that.
Also, I love that wolf. I am so happy that he or she did not get killed this episode. I'm more interested in seeing the wolf return (and again, not dying)
EDIT: I also think this episode may have been making fun of how much Samurai Jack sucks at first aid and/or how action stars in general suck at it. Case and point? Jack pulling out the dagger. About the worst thing he could have done AND he instantly passed out when he did it. He would have been dead if the wolf didn't help him and he splashed water or his or hers wound like an idiot lol
New article now that Rick Sanchez stopped hijacking the airwaves. (http://animationrevelation.com/readables/?p=6425)
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhKwCiis.jpg&hash=3a36005aef160457794b6a2f05d68f350ccf2776)
...I don't expect Jack to romance Ashi at all. I just see her and Scotsman helping in the final bout against Aku.
New article that even someone with Jack's attention span can read. (http://animationrevelation.com/readables/?p=6455)
So Ashi seems to be journeying through the show's first season.
And I had a good chuckle out of a certain "gag" earlier.
That penis joke came out of nowhere. XD
Love Ashi's new look.
Wow! It was great to see all the old characters again. :joy: However...
Spoiler
Demongo's alive? WTF?
The fucking Ravers came back, but not the mobsters. Oh, well. New article. (http://animationrevelation.com/readables/?p=6475)
It was fun to see some of the characters again, but like you said it's strange none of them have suffered any hardship since their encounters with Jack. I mean, I know Aku has gotten complacent, but you think he'd want to squash any sense of hope in the world the samurai has provided people. And it is frustrating Ashi didn't just lead by telling Jack that the children were okay - that whole sequence felt really drawn out. And as entertaining as Scaramouche is, his bits felt like padding. And why is Demongo alive? I hope that gets addressed and him coming back has a purpose rather than being a one-off cameo. I do think it's nice to get a fanservicy episode like this in a show's final season, especially since I'm sure most of these characters will help Jack in the final battle with Aku, but I agree that I think it was the weakest and most frustrating episode in the season so far.
I wouldn't be surprised if Scaramouche hangs around just to get bumped off in 2 seconds when Jack and Ashi raid Aku's palace; same with Ashi's "mother".
Quote from: Daikun on April 23, 2017, 02:53:20 AM
Wow! It was great to see all the old characters again. :joy: However...
Spoiler
Demongo's alive? WTF?
I was so surprised and happy to see him again!!
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 10, 2017, 06:49:31 PM
Spoiler
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhKwCiis.jpg&hash=3a36005aef160457794b6a2f05d68f350ccf2776)
Also, I like how this got completely debunked this episode. :sly:
Quote from: Painted Outlaw on April 23, 2017, 06:10:15 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Scaramouche hangs around just to get bumped off in 2 seconds when Jack and Ashi raid Aku's palace; same with Ashi's "mother".
I hope he leads Aku's army. Easily the best Season 5 character.
Edit # 255: I wonder if they showed the lighter characters to set up Aku actively oppressing Jack's more relevant allies. Those 3 groups were pretty much the least likely to still be suffering from Aku (like anyone remembers the Woolies) and they probably just didn't want another dark episode in a row. I obviously liked the episode more than most but I got to say I thought the ending was disappointing. I thought The Omen would be much more important than just a baddie or whatever for Ashi to complete her hero's journey. I thought he would actually help Jack improve himself/get a new sword, etc. or at least help advance the plot. Ashi was already going to become a good guy so his involvement basically amounted to nothing. And Jack could have just gone with Ashi on her adventure, met all those guys and gotten snapped out of his desire for suicide after that adventure, instead of just hearing a few word from her.
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 24, 2017, 12:41:08 AM
Quote from: Painted Outlaw on April 23, 2017, 06:10:15 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Scaramouche hangs around just to get bumped off in 2 seconds when Jack and Ashi raid Aku's palace; same with Ashi's "mother".
I hope he leads Aku's army. Easily the best Season 5 character.
Barring him getting a new body, I'm not sure how that'd happen. I'll give it that it'd be amusing, though.
I ask too many questions about Samurai Jack. (http://animationrevelation.com/readables/?p=6480)
I bet one of them is way Aku's dumb ass stopped going after or watching Jack right after he lost the sword. Or even question or hear from anyone seeing him without it. It took 50 years for Scaramouch to be the first one to even try and tell him lol.
All around amazing episode. I am still in awe at Ashi just ripping through those guys. Also, we all know her old ass mother never stood a chance against her. She would have just originally gone after Jack herself if she was any better.
Edit: Okay, good questions. I hope High Priestess does return just so she can explain her actions. I was waiting for that but that never happened.
Quote from: Painted Outlaw on April 23, 2017, 06:10:15 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Scaramouche hangs around just to get bumped off in 2 seconds when Jack and Ashi raid Aku's palace; same with Ashi's mother.
Well, I was half-wrong.
I do agree that it would've been nice if they explained anything about her, though. And no, that doesn't mean I want everything to stop for a pointless flashback; that'd be worse.
Why'd they think devoting an episode to Jack and Ashi's sexual tension was a good idea? Why'd they think having a romantic relationship between Jack and Ashi at all was a good idea? Why did we devote time to this filler shit with only two episodes left to go? This episode was like something out of a bad light novel anime, complete with the obligatory female character getting attacked by slime monsters and her clothes dissolving just for a naked fanservice scene where the MC gets flustered in the name of "comedy."
And the season was so good until now too... :imnothappy:
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Well that sucked. At least we still have Castlevania to look forward too, right? RIGHT?
I had a feeling all along Ashi would end up being Jack's love interest so the episode didn't bother me. Just didn't like there being so many rapid-fire hints. I liked the episode otherwise, though that cheesy Dean Martin song at the end was unneeded.
Love it or hate it, next week WILL be better no matter what; because Jack returns to some familiar territory where a particular obstacle that hindered him before awaits......
This episode had pretty colors, but was easily the weakest to date.
Yeah, I won't lie, this episode was pretty damn awkward to watch. Everything felt so forced. I mean, I can accept them being love interests, but it all happened so... weirdly. Easily the first "bad" episode of the season. The beginning with the ship falling to Earth was so interesting. I was hoping it was going to play up more as an Alien homage.
We still got time for the show to recover, right?
>> two episodes left to go
Goddangit.
New article full of tears. (http://animationrevelation.com/readables/?p=6485)
Everyone on the AV Club seemed to love it. Only place I've seen positivity. :lol:
My thoughts exactly doc. My problem isn't merely that they're romantically involved, but that they developed their relationship in a juvenile way using cliche tropes that were just groan-worthy. A big problem I have with it is also the fact that Ashi is still emotionally immature, still not knowing much about the world and formed any relationships with anyone other than Jack. She's essentially went from worshipping Aku to idolizing Jack instead. I saw their relationship in the previous episodes as one between a father and daughter, so the sexual tension between them was extra uncomfortable, as are the implications of how dependent Ashi is emotionally on Jack, and even vice-versa considering Jack also probably hasn't had a real connection with anyone in a few decades. Their romance is just a bad idea all around, and if they wanted to do it, they needed to develop it more maturely and thoughtfully, and shown more why they would form a romantic connection instead of a familial one, actually talk about those feelings openly and discuss whether it's the right thing for them, you know, go about it like adults. But I guess their idea of adult content is dick jokes and crude sex metaphors, which to be fair this is [adult swim], but I expected better writing out of Genndy. Like you I'm also dreading that this will end with Ashi pregnant or killed off just to make Jack more incensed to kill Aku, or some other cliche like that.
WHAT THE FUCK WAS THAT?!?!?!!? An annoying romantic episode where Jack treats Ashi like a damsel in distress instead of them actively going after Aku, assembling an army or starting to tie up any loose ends the series has left. There are only 2 episodes left in the entire series. We did not need a relationship with no buildup. I'm pissed
Edit: I also suspected it would be a romantic episode after Jack's first few words and the area they were in but I didn't think it would be THIS bad and I thought the spaceship would be a return of some old character (have no clue who) or part of an end of series villain. Nope, filler monster that was used as a device to get Ashi and Jack to slobber over each other. I like Ashi but I hope she dies before the Aku battle..like in the first few minutes of the next episode.
Quote from: LumRanmaYasha on May 06, 2017, 10:33:51 PM
Why'd they think devoting an episode to Jack and Ashi's sexual tension was a good idea? Why'd they think having a romantic relationship between Jack and Ashi at all was a good idea? Why did we devote time to this filler shit with only two episodes left to go? This episode was like something out of a bad light novel anime, complete with the obligatory female character getting attacked by slime monsters and her clothes dissolving just for a naked fanservice scene where the MC gets flustered in the name of "comedy."
And the season was so good until now too... :imnothappy:
lol I wouldn't say this ruins the season but I agree on all other accounts.
QuoteMaybe some part of Jack still sees a fragment of Aku in Ashi, and having sex with her is his Freudian way of finally dominating Aku.
(https://ionesfly.files.wordpress.com/2014/10/88867-dave-chappelle-huh-what-gif-im-tab2.gif?w=500&h=376)
The Freudian explanation sounds pretty stupid, but is it really any dumber than what actually happened?
I wasn't criticizing, I just never miss an opportunity to post that gif :D
Finally watches episode, it feels like seeing someone's Fanfiction of Jashi in action. Sweet Jebus Crops. It was still enjoyable episode, but it felt wrong. Though I did get a laugh of Jack being flustered by Ashi being naked, that got a laugh out of me. Here's hoping the final episodes won't feel rushed with regards to ending Jack's journey.
Season 5 marathon confirmed for May 27. (https://www.facebook.com/Toonami/photos/a.1442483259375850.1073741828.1440408039583372/1753101284980711)
What the fuck Jack
That "tweest" with Ashi:
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRdXdfvu.gif&hash=1e0bf75f8b3c13f7db2c61aede2c6d9c628edeac)
EDIT: To be serious, was anyone really concerned whether the "Daughters of Aku" thing was a funny name or not? Just seem to be more time-wasting so they get all the "dramatic feels" out of its viewers when Ashi likely bites it.
Is the next episode the same length as the rest? If it's a double-length, I can maybe see them wrapping it up, but as it stands, I don't see how they're going to do it satisfactorily. Pacing-wise, the final battle has certainly started with much less build-up than I thought it would and certainly not in a location I thought it would. Does "ancient Celtic magic" allow the Scotsman to gather up all of Jack's allies and find him in his exact location?
More of the awkward romance at the start of the episode and... I dunno. The season went from "awesome" to "weird" for me.
And the fate of the Guardian. Not sure how I feel about that one. Aku did say he destroyed every last portal, but after the way the original episode ended, I thought the tough SOB and his talking time portal would be more important.
The fact that the Guardian dies while the ravers and fucking Demongo live is bullshitimus maximus.
Scaramouche getting his body back was pointless too since he didn't get to fucking do anything afterward.
OK, the one good thing about this episode is that it did set up this one, which I actually liked. The only problem I have is Aku didn't immediately have Jack killed...which will obviously cost him his life. Also, I love it when Phil La Marr tells Ashi stories.
Quote from: Rynnec on May 14, 2017, 02:02:55 AM
The fact that the Guardian dies while the ravers and fucking Demongo live is bullshitimus maximus.
Scaramouche getting his body back was pointless too since he didn't get to fucking do anything afterward.
Also true.
1800-Articles-4-Kids (http://animationrevelation.com/readables/?p=6500)
Nice. Seems like someone agrees that this episode did have some decent buildup
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I am starting to suspect that The Guardian will come out of nowhere and save Jack. Maybe Guardian was saved by whoever was the voice in/of the portal and saved him before Aku could kill him. Also, I just hope that damn Scotsman army finally shows up.
I'm going to miss Samurai Jack after it ends. It has had a huge impact on me and will continue to do so.
An underwhelming finish. Probably my least favorite episode of the season. The best part was probably showing the old opening on the TV. Oh and the Scotsman. He was great.
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I loved it. I loved the callbacks, all the cameos, the original intro being show, the action choreography, Jack's final lines with Aku. I loved just about all of it. Kind of wish Ashi lived, but I can see why Genndy made the ending so bittersweet.
The saddest part to me isn't Samurai Jack ending, but knowing that Sym-Bionic Titan will never get to have a proper one. :-[
It was okay. I'm glad we got our big final battle with everyone, but the final bits were too rushed for the emotional impact to really hit me. This episode would have made a great movie. While it's great that Jack actually did manage to get back (Ashi using Aku's powers to screw him over was pretty great), it sucks that all those characters we just saw got wiped from existence. That final shot was beautiful.
Overall, first seven episodes of this season were excellent, the last three were a real fumble to me.
Okay, I have to ask... How did everyone arrive at Aku's lair so fast? It seemed they were all thousands of miles apart, yet they all got there in what seemed like a minute?
:'( And it's over.
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I'll first say that they did thoroughly, finally make Ashi and Jack's relationship work. I was happy to see them together for the first time in this episode. Also, I thought, "WAIT, DOES THIS MEAN THAT ASHI CAN USE TIME POWERS?!! Right after Ashi was announced that she had all of his powers. And then she did it. Honestly an extremely clever way to get Jack back to the past. The final battles were decent but this season had so much better action before any of this. Also, they still wasted far too much time with Ashi in previous episodes so there nearly wasn't enough character returns. I was the happiest to see the Archers fight and I geeked out when the Spartans showed up! Those are the two main groups I care about but beyond that, we could have saw so much more. I can live with not knowing what'll happen to the future now, including if they were luck enough to be an existing separate timeline like say Trunks' future. I also loved the bittersweet ending. Plus seeing that they also used Mako's voice for Past Aku (or just the old intro, I'm not sure) also helped me get a bit emotional about this. Overall, some things could have been better but I am satisfied.
Quote from: Nel_Annette on May 21, 2017, 12:48:02 AM
It was okay. I'm glad we got our big final battle with everyone, but the final bits were too rushed for the emotional impact to really hit me. This episode would have made a great movie. While it's great that Jack actually did manage to get back (Ashi using Aku's powers to screw him over was pretty great), it sucks that all those characters we just saw got wiped from existence. That final shot was beautiful.
Overall, first seven episodes of this season were excellent, the last three were a real fumble to me.
I'd say the first 3 were excellent with some hits and misses here and there. Episode 8 being the only one I didn't like.
Quote from: Daikun on May 21, 2017, 05:19:55 AM
Okay, I have to ask... How did everyone arrive at Aku's lair so fast? It seemed they were all thousands of miles apart, yet they all got there in what seemed like a minute?
That reminds me...Scotsman didn't assemble shit. He was built up as the general of the army and didn't do anything but apparently stay home. Assuming Aku stayed in the same lair, they should have been at his place a long time ago.
...also, where the fuck was Demongo. I could probably go on forever about headscratchers and loose ends in this season/show.
I do think that the ending was a little rushed. I don't even recall getting to see Jack's reunion with his family. But I did like how Jack had a bittersweet ending, which for better or worse, makes sense for him.
This might have worked better as a double-length finale, or at least extended a few minutes longer. I think the pacing in the final battle was solid, though.
As for what new content Toonami should do next/after FLCL- I have 2 suggestions.
1- Batman Beyond post "Epilogue"
2- Have a talk with Gaiman about finding a home for Sandman
Yeah, it was a bit rushed.
New Batman Beyond would be great!
Last article. (http://animationrevelation.com/readables/?p=6503)
All of DC's attempts to make a new Batman Beyond comic have really soured my craving for more of that series. Maybe it's just a series that can only work in the cartoon medium, but I'm not sure where you can go from Epilogue.
Quote from: gunswordfist on May 21, 2017, 10:41:09 AM...also, where the fuck was Demongo. I could probably go on forever about headscratchers and loose ends in this season/show.
Demongo didn't really matter. He was a villain, not one of Jack's allies, and Aku likely would've killed him again (for real that time), anyway.
Also, he doesn't exist anymore, now that Aku has been erased from history.
They probably could've brought him back if the final episode had gone the extended route, but that didn't happen.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on May 21, 2017, 08:07:27 PM
Last article. (http://animationrevelation.com/readables/?p=6503)
All of DC's attempts to make a new Batman Beyond comic have really soured my craving for more of that series. Maybe it's just a series that can only work in the cartoon medium, but I'm not sure where you can go from Epilogue.
I agree that the final big battle was underwhelming but never thought about it being because Aku wasn't used that creatively. Good point. When Aku because a rolling ball against the Scotsmen was pretty much more well thought out.
I felt both underwhelmed and satisfied by the finale. It felt right, but it also felt a little rushed. I would've liked the final battle with Aku to last longer, and I'm sad to think that everyone Jack met in the future now no longer exists. Overall, my opinions on the season align with Dr. Insomniac's. The first three episodes were incredible, the rest were varying degrees of enjoyable, but it never surpassed my expectations and the ending didn't feel as gratifying as it could've been. Still, I'm glad to see a proper ending to Jack's story, that he did get back to the past, undid the evil that was Aku, and now has a bright future to look forward to.
So in hindsight, do you think this would have worked better as a movie like Genndy originally planned?
I hope we get this on DVD, since I want to rewatch the entire series and see how I rank this final season on the whole. I was thoroughly impressed with the first few episodes like most, but I wonder if that was just hype or if it really did start off strong. And I wonder if I'll appreciate Ashi more or less if I try it again.
As for Batman Beyond, I will say that I mainly want it if Paul Dini's back on board in some way. Among the DCAU royalty who are still around, he seems to be the only one who still has at least some of the plot going, so I'd like to see his take. I mainly just don't want Timm to make a show on his own.
Quote from: Avaitor on May 23, 2017, 03:45:20 PMI hope we get this on DVD, since I want to rewatch the entire series and see how I rank this final season on the whole. I was thoroughly impressed with the first few episodes like most, but I wonder if that was just hype or if it really did start off strong. And I wonder if I'll appreciate Ashi more or less if I try it again.
Toonami will be marathoning all of season 5 this Saturday.
Seasons 1-4 were released on DVD years ago. The first two seasons are still on Warner Archive, and you can find seasons 3 & 4 on Amazon.
http://www.wbshop.com/search.do?query=samurai+jack
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000EGDAFC
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000QCU534
No. Like Netflix Marvel shows, this story would be better suited in an episodic format. 3 hours at best would do such a long show no justice since that would be like 7 episodes. I think 99% of S5's problem is what they choose to cover. No one in their right mind thinks that they showed enough of the old characters and people are split at best over episode 8. They could have used that 23 minutes for something relevant. Also, cleaning up things like how useless The Omen (Green Samurai spirit) is and some of the beginning of episode 9. Things being hit and miss at times made perfectly fine, almost excellent episodes like episode 4 or whatever episode had Ashi killing that army seem a bit worse than they actually are. So beyond that, seeing more Gun/PTSD Jack, more onscreen explanations as to why he was that broken and better reasons for Jack to lose his shit other than baby sheep and kid monsters and Jack actually saying goodbye to the people at the first half of episode 10 could have all helped make this a 9 or 10 out of 10 season.
Edit: I also wonder where I'll stack up this season. I strongly suspect Season 4 will be the winner since it has a good number of the series' best.
Quote from: Daikun on May 23, 2017, 04:00:46 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on May 23, 2017, 03:45:20 PMI hope we get this on DVD, since I want to rewatch the entire series and see how I rank this final season on the whole. I was thoroughly impressed with the first few episodes like most, but I wonder if that was just hype or if it really did start off strong. And I wonder if I'll appreciate Ashi more or less if I try it again.
Toonami will be marathoning all of season 5 this Saturday.
Seasons 1-4 were released on DVD years ago. The first two seasons are still on Warner Archive, and you can find seasons 3 & 4 on Amazon.
http://www.wbshop.com/search.do?query=samurai+jack
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000EGDAFC
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B000QCU534
Yep, I have all but season 2 on DVD. I just want a release for season 5 as well.
Any chance we will get a 5 season boxset? Fine by me, either way, I will just get the other seasons sooner and then rewatch my Microsoft Store Season 5 episodes.
Samurai Jack will start airing for an hour at 8PM on Sundays.
At this point I'd jump on a complete series box. I never got around to the original show and my tastes have changed enough that I really do appreciate it a lot now.
I wrote another Samurai Jack article purely as an excuse to make a Tarkovsky/Tartakovsky joke. (http://animationrevelation.com/readables/?p=6507)
Good essay! Ashi's character served a lot of purposes, but it often felt like her role as a plot device overshadowed her actual character development. That's one thing that makes the ending a little unsatisfying for me, since Ashi's death really hammers home that she was only a tool to get Jack back on his feet and back to the past, and the character development she received didn't end up being as important as her relationship to Jack and how she affected him.
I rewatched the first Season 5 episode a day or two ago. Even more visually stunning than I remember. Just a perfect season opener.
Complete Series Blu-Ray coming October 17. (http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=295677)
That's what I've been waiting for.
I'm definitely picking up season 5, probably on Blu. Since I already own 3/4 of the original series, not to mention how outlandish the price is (but that's MSRP- it'll definitely lower when it ships), I'll pass on the set and just try to find the right time to order season 2.
Quote from: Daikun on August 20, 2017, 09:04:39 PM
Complete Series Blu-Ray coming October 17. (http://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=295677)
Good excuse as any for me to experience Blu-Ray.
Season 5 has four juried Emmy nominations. (http://www.emmys.com/news/awards-news/2017-juried-winners)
omg//
Good, hope it wins all of them.
I read it. I am pretty sure they mean individuals won and they received the awards yesterday.