How about a thread for old school systems and games? Different from nostalgia or favorite games, how about we talk about company wars, advertisements, video game shows (there were a few!), overlooked games and companies, new rereleases of classic games, and yeah I guess your favorite moments from the olden days. I figure this way we can avoid clutter in other threads, and keep the talk on old stuff centered in its own thread outside of series threads.
What would I consider retro? Well, the way most used to define retro systems were always systems from over two gens before the current one. So right now that would be everything up to the PS2/Gamecube/Xbox until next year when they will be made retro by the upcoming systems. PC games from the same eras would also be considered the same.
As I said in the other thread, I recently turned my focus in hobbies to one of my favorite things; retro gaming. I've started to turn one of my hobbies into a goal recently, in that I eventually want to find and collect old games that I love and enjoy into a personal collection of my own. Most of it will be centered between the NES and the N64 generations, but I will also be looking into portables as well.
So post about your favorite old school games, systems, or memories if you want, here.
To start off this thread on a theme close to home on this board; Did you know there's actually a pretty good game based on the Flintstones? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8p0Wvbt8Ck) Another game I eventually want to add to my collection, this game is sort of a mix between an old school platformer action game and a board game, and is actually a unique little game.
Oh damn, that looks cool. I need to find that now, haha.
Not much knowledge of retro games here, aside from a ton of classic PC titles, since I never owned or even touched a console (aside from a 2600... once) until the N64. Oh, the days of downloading shareware on dial-up...
There are some really goddamn excellent computer games from the 90's, guys. I'll post about my favorites once I have a good bit of time to do so.
I'm pretty big on the old school games myself, and I have quite a few games for systems like the NES and SNES, although many of the games I have are games that I've had since I was a kid. I do need to brush up on the Sega though, as I only have like a dozen Genesis games, a few Game Gear games, and that Dreamcast that I still haven't bought but have been meaning to for quite some time.
I'm especially a collector of the Game Boy line and it's games, and have hundreds of GB/GBC/GBA carts. It just seems easier to collect these than NES or SNES carts, since there aren't very many rare games as compared to those two, and many used video game stores I've been to usually sell them for pretty decent prices(unlike certain SNES carts that can go for 30, 50, or even upwards of 100 dollars). As far as the actual systems go, I have the original grey Game Boy, a Play It Loud! Red Game Boy, two Game Boy Pockets, a GBC, several Game Boy Advances, an SP, and a Micro. I've always wanted to get one of those Japan-only Game Boy Lights off of Ebay, but I've never been able to come to terms with myself spending that much money on an old Game Boy.
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I'm recommending Sweet Home again. It's the precursor to Resident Evil, it has my favorite world in any RPG (well house, but yeah) since its so fun going through it trying to get past the traps and figure out the puzzles and its my absolute favorite 8-bit RPG. I also think the graphics aged perfectly. Please play this game. The fan translation is easy to find.
Hey Desen, you're a Mega Man nut, how do you like the GB Mega Man titles? I picked up Mega Man 1 and 2 for the GB today, but 2 is the Japanese version(I also picked up a Japanese Tetris cart. Nothing terribly special, but still cool).
I also got Wario Land 2 after seeing you praise it.
Did you get the GBC (black cart) Wario Land 2 or the normal GB one? There isn't any difference other than colour, I'm just curious.
I'm pretty mixed on the GB Mega Man games. Most of them are either too hard or too easy, but the last one (V) is a wholly original game and is well worth seeking out. Of course, it's the rarest one.
Oh yeah, Outrun is on sale this week on XBLA, if you have it, for $5. The game's getting removed by the end of the year so this could be your last chance to try it out. Just thought I'd mention it.
I got the black cartridge of WL2. I wonder if one version is more rare than the other. Either way, I'll probably keep a loose eye out for the grey WL2 cart(kind of like Link's Awakening; I've got both the original grey GB cart and the black DX GBC cart).
Swap Meets are a gold mine for retro games. The last time I went, I found a couple of still-shrinkwrapped PSX games, and the new shining star of my collection, the japanese release of Rival Schools with the school life simulator.
I saw somebody selling Super Mario Land 2 and Metroid II multiple times, but they have them priced at 25 dollars and they refuse to budge on that price. Pisses me off because I'd love to have them in my collection. I also found a Cruisan' USA still MIB, bought it for 12 bucks and giving it to my brother since he loves that series.
The one I wish I didn't pass up was the japanese Mario Kart with the Rumble Pak bundle I saw at a pawn shop. I didn't bother asking for a price, I just assumed its the same game I could've bought at Toys R Us or GameStop at the time. I think I also saw Earthbound at another swap meet once, but passed on it because it didn't hold my interest. Kinda wish I had it just to say I have it.
Found a copy of Looney Tunes B-Ball for the SNES(think NBA Jam, but with LT characters), so it's time to bust out my Super NES. Loved this game in my younger years, but haven't played it in quite some time. I also got my own physical copy of Super Metroid(I previously had the VC version, but I wanted to have the actual cart), and Minish Cap for the GBA.
Adventure Island is a cute little series. It's extremely simple (more than even Mario) and more often than not, you simply can't put the games down. It's such a shame Hudson is basically dead now, the series was seemingly having a small comeback with the Wii release.
You said we can post old commercials in this thread, right?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6FnXlcpG0LQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JLByG2JqLJ8
Because these two promoting Super Mario Kart* are amongst my absolute favorites, partly because they both show up during my (physical)copy of It's a Wonderful Tiny Toon Christmas Special(taped off of the Fox station in the Bay Area on it's original air date, December 6th 1992), and since I watch this tape nearly every year, I see these two commercials nearly every year as well.
There's also a Power Glove commercial in the broadcast(strange, wasn't 1992 a bit late for the Power Glove?), but I don't remember it as fondly to find it on YouTube.
*Note the use of Super Mario World music instead of SMK in the Domino's ad.
http://www.retrojunk.com/details_commercial/16511/
hahahaha, oh lord, I had one of these stupid things, one of my grandparents sent it to us as a gift. I used to play the Tetris clone and the race car game a lot, then Pokemon came out and killed my interest in it forever. I wonder what ever happened to that thing?
Sega and Nintendo's 16-bit era commercials were the best. So exciting and fast paced. I'm not sure what happened to game commercials to make them less fun and more dumb, but I really do enjoy them more.
Also, Sonic CD is out tomorrow on XBLA for $5/400 points. It's an absolute steal.
Hey Desen, Jet Grind Radio. Opinions. Now.
I know you're into this game, you've had avatars of it before, and now I'm looking at it, and in fact it's putting me on the edge of finally getting a Dreamcast. I'm gonna keep an eye out for the sequel too, since it's an Xbox game and it should be playable on my 360(probably needs updated like a motherfucker though). And, since you know I love my handhelds, how is the GBA version of JGR, if you've played it?
Jet Grind Radio is part Tony Hawk Pro Skater and part 3D platformer. Your goal is to tag and do tricks as well as race, so it's a fairly unique game. It's hard too, but there really isn't any game like it out there. The sequel is more focused on platforming at a slower pace, and it's also good, but the original really feels like if Sonic Adventure 1 and Tony Hawk Pro Skater were the same game. Honestly, I think it's the best game on the Dreamcast that isn't an arcade port or something, but fully original. The game still looks and runs great, too.
Also there's the soundtrack (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4bmLkpG-VM) which is one of the craziest around.
Sorry, but I haven't played the GBA game. I heard it's good, though.
I'm also a fan of Jet Grind Radio and Jet Set Radio future. I personally prefer what I consider to be the tighter platforming of the sequel, but both games are great. The trick system itself is pretty shallow, though, so don't expect the depth that you would get out of something like Tony Hawk in terms of the versatility of what characters in that game can do. Its mainly about the platforming and exploring the levels rather than performing insane tricks and stacking up points.
So here's the list of the GBA ambassador games for 3DS early adopters:
F-Zero: Maximum Velocity
Super Mario Advance 3: Yoshi's Island
Legend of Zelda: Minish Cap
Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones
Kirby & The Amazing Mirror
Mario Kart: Super Circuit
Mario vs. Donkey Kong
Metroid Fusion
Wario Land 4
WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgames
At least half of those are outright classics, and the other half are awesome. Except for Amazing Mirror which is awful. But hey, it's free. Can't complain.
The only thing I don't like about that list is that I just fucking bought Minish Cap the other week. That and I'm betting MK: Super Circuit is gonna look awful compared to MK7. Otherwise, I'm content with the lineup, now we need a release date.
I fucking love Super Circuit. Killed so much time playing that 10 years ago.
Heh, now there's no need to be upset at the lack of GBA courses in MK7 since they're all here!
The UK is getting these puppies on Friday, so it shouldn't be too far away for us.
Why Sacred Stones over Blazing Sword? I've already got both, but I figured they would go with the best seller over the bargain bin shelfwarmer.
Fuck yeah for Mega Microgames and Mario vs DK. 2 of my favorite GBA games.
Never played Amazing Mirror; so it's that bad, eh? I was kinda turned off from what I seen in the promo vids way back when, and never did get around to giving a shot.
Otherwise, pretty excellent list. Ditto on Super Circuit; actually played that for a bit not too long ago, and didn't age as bad as I thought it would; still pretty fun, I must say (in comparison to MKDS, that is; we'll see how it holds up compared to 7). Also nice to see WL4 getting some love, among others.
Got my Ambassador games downloaded, was constantly on GAF these past few days waiting on the word that they were available, since I don't think NoA has said anything about them yet.
No regrets for Fire Emblem, since I never played Sacred Stones and it's a good beginner game for people, so I think it's a good choice.
Amazing Mirror is a Metroidvania where you constantly need to fumble around with a confusing map and use Kirby Adventure style powers (one hit and they're gone style) to unlock new areas. THAT'S what makes it frustrating to me.
Go play Wario Land 4 if you haven't yet. Classic, classic game.
I actually quite liked Amazing Mirror despite the problems it had. Granted, it probably wouldn't hold up for me now that I've played Super Star Ultra, but I wouldn't say that it's a bad game.
Nice to see that Yoshi's Island is finally getting its digital release. Guess I know the first game I'm downloading when I get a 3DS.
Since I'm back home for xmas I went out to the local video game store that I frequented when I lived at home, and I found a copy of Jet Grind Radio for 5 bucks. The disc itself is in good shape, but the case is a bit marked up by what looks like red crayon. Now all I need is a Dreamcast, but I'll look at that when I get back to VA.
Also got a copy of Ducktales 2 for Game Boy. It has the little "Player's Choice Million Seller" seal on it, which I thought was strange. I thought Ducktales 2 didn't do so well, which is why it's harder to find than the first one. ??? Maybe it's only the NES version.
Man, I've never even SEEN Duck Tales 2 for the Game Boy before. That game is rarer than the NES version.
I still pop in the first Game Boy one from time to time, how does the sequel compare?
My bros got 2 PSN cards last night and used it to buy Sonic CD, Daytona USA, and a bunch of Cowadooty map packs.
I'm a little more than miffed that it wasn't Galaga Legions they bought.
The PSX version of Klonoa is up on the PSN Store. Isn't that lovely?
So I used 1000 of my Wii Points on Majora's Mask, and I'm trying to decide whether to spend most of what's left on Ocarina of Time, Gunstar Heroes, or Samurai Shodown II.
Any suggestions, even for something else?
Quote from: Avaitor on December 28, 2011, 02:26:33 AM
So I used 1000 of my Wii Points on Majora's Mask, and I'm trying to decide whether to spend most of what's left on Ocarina of Time, Gunstar Heroes, or Samurai Shodown II.
Any suggestions, even for something else?
I forget what's on the list, but for those three my vote goes to OoT. It's good to always have both N64 Zelda's on hand, for various reasons.
Quote from: Avaitor on December 28, 2011, 02:26:33 AM
So I used 1000 of my Wii Points on Majora's Mask, and I'm trying to decide whether to spend most of what's left on Ocarina of Time, Gunstar Heroes, or Samurai Shodown II.
Any suggestions, even for something else?
Get Cave Story and Castlevania Adventure.
On New Year's Eve I downloaded:
Shadow Force
GunForce 1 and 2
Crusader of Centy
Super Castlevania IV, Rondo of blood pc, bloodlines
Rocket Knight Adventures, Sparkster
Splatterhouse 1-3
Megaman Zero 1-4, Wily Wars, X 1-3
Alien Soldier
Chrono Trigger
Golden Axe Revenge Of Death Adder
Metroid Fusion, Zero Mission
Cadillacs & Dinosaurs
Double Dragon Advance
Secret Of Mana, Seiten Densetsu 3, Sword of Mana, Secret Of Evermore
Earthbound, Mother 3
Zelda Oracle of Ages and Season, Link's Awakening DX, Minish Cap
Donkey Kong Country SNES (Had to stop their, Desen needs to tell me which GBA versions to get)
Violent Storm
Golden Sun 1 and 2
Earthworm Jim 1 and 2
I didn't get any PS1 games like Strider 2, Brave Fencer Musashi and Tomba! 2 yet. or any Sega DC/Sega Saturn games yet.
I'm about to download both versions of Shadowrun, Link to the Past and the European version of Contra Hard Corps.
Quote from: Avaitor on December 28, 2011, 02:26:33 AM
So I used 1000 of my Wii Points on Majora's Mask, and I'm trying to decide whether to spend most of what's left on Ocarina of Time, Gunstar Heroes, or Samurai Shodown II.
Any suggestions, even for something else?
If you haven't spent them yet, I'd say that Gunstar Heroes is the best bang for your buck. It's still Treasure's best game.
Quote from: Desensitized on December 31, 2011, 11:45:41 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on December 28, 2011, 02:26:33 AM
So I used 1000 of my Wii Points on Majora's Mask, and I'm trying to decide whether to spend most of what's left on Ocarina of Time, Gunstar Heroes, or Samurai Shodown II.
Any suggestions, even for something else?
If you haven't spent them yet, I'd say that Gunstar Heroes is the best bang for your buck. It's still Treasure's best game.
Disagreed. Looks like we'll never agree on Treasure games.
I found Mega Man 3 and 4 Gameboy today and scooped 'em up. Mega Man 3 is pretty much like the first two, though the difficulty is much better balanced in not being overly hard like 1 or brain-dead easy like 2 so if you find it, just give it a go. 4 is a bit different, as the levels are a bit more creatively laid out and is a bit more separated from the NES games despite mostly being based on my second least favorite NES Mega Man game, it's pretty frickin' good. The screen is a little more zoomed out (just a bit) so that it's easier to see everything, and the enemies are easier to hit. From my experience, Mega Man 3 and 4 for the Gameboy are way better than 1 and 2.
The only one left to try is 5. Shame it wasn't there.
Just bought a fat PS2 for 5 bucks. It's pretty cool, since my PS3 doesn't play PS2 games, and my old PS2 I gave to my brother ages ago, and I don't know if he still has it.
EDIT: I don't know if the ps2 is retro enough for this thread. Eh.
Quote from: SNES Chalmers on January 07, 2012, 01:55:00 PM
Just bought a fat PS2 for 5 bucks.
5 bucks!?!?! Holy shit! Freakin' steal.
Yeah, that's why I bought it. Then I went over to GameStop, where they are having a buy two get one free deal on PS2 games, and got Viewtiful Joe 1 and 2, Sly Cooper 1 and 2, THPS3 and Simpsons Road Rage all for just over 16 bucks. So yeah, good PS2 day.
Quote from: Avaitor on December 28, 2011, 02:26:33 AM
So I used 1000 of my Wii Points on Majora's Mask, and I'm trying to decide whether to spend most of what's left on Ocarina of Time, Gunstar Heroes, or Samurai Shodown II.
Any suggestions, even for something else?
If you're part of Club Nintendo, you can now use 150 of your coins to buy it without spending a dime.
Just thought everyone would like to know.
I did just that yesterday.
Here's hoping Metroid II is part of the next round of games. I'm super anxious to play that one.
I finally beat Shiva's stage on Bare Knuckle 3 via not losing two continues from being an idiot. This game is almost too easy. Helluva lot more fun though. Interesting seeing how pissed off Axel gets.
Got some N64 games, including Mischief Makers, Cruis'N USA, Beetle Adventure Racing(it sounds stupid, but it's a pretty fun game), and the best thing that happened in the wake of The Phantom Menace, the Podracing game. Got 'em all for just under 15 bucks total. Also got a copy of Rockin' Kats and Pokemon Trading Card Game, both of which I've had in the past but no longer had.
Sweet haul!
I agree with Beetle Adventure Racing, I love racing games with unique concepts.
Quote from: Comeau on February 02, 2012, 08:10:18 PM
the Podracing game.
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Yesterday, I found out that my brother had some more games on the laptop he gave me. I didn't even know he liked old school RPGs. OK folks, I forgot what Super Turrican is, don't know what the hell Twinbee is and is Super Bomberman any good?
Twinbee is an old school shmup. I'm not to up on individual Bomberman games, but I know I heard Super Bomberman 2 is one of the best.
New finds, now with pics!
Normally I don't worry too much about buying old Nintendo games with their boxes, but I made a special exception, one because of the shape the box is in and two because it's a Simpsons item:
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It came with everything, including the manual, a warranty card, some ad for players guides, a poster, and the plastic protector dealy.
Another thing is it compliments my Bart's Nightmare box(which is in rougher shape and is missing the manual) that I picked up a few years back:
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Oh, and also picked up a copy of Clash at Demonhead, which is something I've been looking for for a while. Pic for the hell of it:
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Heh, your Bart's Nightmare box is in the same shape mine is.
Man, though, what a letdown that no one else could wrestle the Simpsons license away from Acclaim for all those years. We missed out on so many potentially great games.
Oh, also, good pick ups! Clash At Demonhead is a minor gem.
This is actually one of the ones I've never played before. I almost bought it for the Genny some time ago, but decided against it. I'll probably try to play through the game once, but other than that it's purely a novelty thing. It's not like I paid that much for it, only eight bucks.
Also, the store I bought this at is the same one where I saw a guy walk out with a copy of Ducktales in it's box a few weeks back, so I guess they get them in semi-routinely.
:thumbup:
Nice finds, and cool that your local game store actually has boxed copies. The only one I've ever seen around here was a sealed copy of Super Mario 64, but they wanted about $200 for it, so that was obviously a no-go.
Aside from those two, and a bunch of Game Boy games, the only other game box that I can think of that I own is the SNES version of NHL 95, but I don't know where it's at. It's not here with me and the rest of my SNES collection, so I guess it's at home buried in some random box somewhere.
An old anti-Nintendo Sega feature from 1992 featuring Sonic The Hedgehog 2. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8K4EKbWAgwY&feature=player_embedded)
That was really around the time the first real console war started heating up. But it was something lost in future generations as that console war was actually just in good fun for pretty much anyone involved. It was never as outright spiteful as it got in the following generations. For instance, you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who would tell you either the SNES or Genesis were terrible systems even back then.
Maybe it's because we have more manchildren now? I don't really know. But that video is actually pretty tame compared to other anti-competition stuff in recent years.
Well, back in grade school I knew at least a few kids who only owned 1 of the 2 consoles and took the console war pretty seriously back then. Ironically, back then my parents used to make a lot more money so we could afford both consoles and my older brother and I were kind of spoiled, but we had both and loved them (though if we had to pick I preferred the SNES whereas my brother liked Sega a bit more), so I never really got offended when someone bad-mouthed one of the consoles. That said, kids can be ridiculous and it was funny to see fans of one console talk smack about the other with me knowing that they clearly didn't know what they were talking about since it was obvious that they hadn't really played any of the games on those consoles.
At any rate, its fine to dislike another console, that's all opinion. What I really can't stand is when people try to insult other people who like consoles that they hate. That's just plane immature and pointless. As for me? I like good games. I couldn't care less what console they are on as long as they are good; well, OK, that's not entirely true since I would like it to be for a console that I actually own, but I don't hold anything against a game based on what console its released on.
If I were to give my standing for each generation since the SNES and Genesis, though, my preferences would go like this:
SNES- I loved the Genesis as well, but I typically got more gaming mileage (as in more play-time) out of my SNES games, so that obviously gave it the edge for me.
Dreamcast- I know that many people argue that the DC is part of the same generation as the PS2, GC, and XBOX, but IMO since its life-cycle started during the N64/PS1 generation and ended really early into the next generation, I consider it part of the previous generation of consoles, personally. At any rate, even if it was part of the PS2 generation, I'd still pick it over the other consoles, either way.
PS2- It pretty much wins over the GC and XBOX by default, and for the record I didn't even own a PS2 (but I pretty much played it all the time at my friend's house who I frequently visited), and I did actually own an XBOX and might as well have owned the GC since my cousin lent his to me and didn't really bother asking for it back that much since he wasn't much of a gamer.
Nintendo Wii- Once again, I don't even own this console, and in this case I don't even get to play it that much, but the fact that it has way more games that interest me than either the XBOX360 or PS3 pretty much gives it the victory by default.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on February 07, 2012, 12:33:12 PM
Dreamcast- I know that many people argue that the DC is part of the same generation as the PS2, GC, and XBOX, but IMO since its life-cycle started during the N64/PS1 generation and ended really early into the next generation, I consider it part of the previous generation of consoles, personally. At any rate, even if it was part of the PS2 generation, I'd still pick it over the other consoles, either way.
Which gen would the Saturn fall? :P
^PS1/N64
Yeah, one of my friends took the console war a bit too seriously (he was adamant that the SNES came out BEFORE the Genesis, like it mattered which came first) but as a whole some friends owned one and some owned the other so we all pretty much got to play everything. If anything nowadays there's less incentive to get one over the other since third party exclusives are pretty much dead, but back then there was a lot you simply weren't getting with one system.
My favorites of each gen would be:
NES/Master System - NES, obviously
SNES/Genesis/TG16/Neo Geo - SNES, but Genesis is right there next to it
N64/Saturn/PS1 - PS1, for simply having the most available for it
GC/DC/PS2/Xbox - Dreamcast, for being by far the most unique and having excellent arcade ports
Wii/PS3/360 - Wii, for pretty much the same reason as the Dreamcast, also having a ton of unique games both retail and digital
NES
SNES
N64
GC
Wii
Oh but I'm not a fanboy. :thumbup:
lol the Genesis was out two whole years before the SNES was released, how could he argue that? Shit, Sonic the Hedgehog came out here before the SNES did.
I'll be honest, while I owned a PS1 long before I got an N64 and there were a ton of great games for it, very few of them appealed to me, personally. I didn't like JRPGs, so all of those are pretty much out, and aside from the Crash Bandicoot games there weren't too many other platformers on the PS1 that caught my interest. I did love games like Soul Reaver and other gems on the console, but for the most part a lot of the games in its library, while great, weren't really my thing. The N64 was certainly a step down from the SNES in terms of the quality of its library, but honestly while everyone likes to rail on it for having a lot of games that haven't aged well, I personally disagree completely. I still love and play a lot of classic N64 games, and it still had more titles that suited my tastes at the time than the PS1 did, though its worth noting that I still liked both consoles. To be honest, I never ended up owning a Sega Saturn and I only ever tried it once or twice since none of my friend's had it and only a couple of my relatives did who I only visited maybe once or twice a year.
As for the Dreamcast, whether its part of the same generation as the PS1 or the PS2, its certainly better than any other consoles from either generation, IMO. Its such an underrated system, and its a shame that it was Sega's last console, because IMO they were really at a high point in terms of creative quality with a library full of great games with that console, IMO. I think the reason that it didn't sell well was because it was either too late or too early to the game. I say that because I'm not sure which it is. They released it while the PS1 and N64 were nearing the end of their life-spans and the PS2 was on its way and not too far off in the future. I'm guessing that since Sega released their console at such an awkward point in time, people just weren't ready to buy it, since most of them were content with their PS1 and/or N64 or because they were saving up for the PS2 instead. Whatever the reason, Sega's demise from consoles certainly wasn't due to a lack of good games, I can say that much for sure.
And you know, while everyone already talks about how bad the graphics of the PS1 and the N64 have aged, I'm honestly shocked at how bad the PS2 graphics have aged. I've been playing quite a bit of PS2 games lately, and I don't remember the games looking that bad. Some games don't look like too much of an improvement over the PS1.
I don't know how he tried to argue that the SNES was out first, he just wouldn't listen to reason. Too bad there are more fanboys like that around now.
Quote from: Comeau on February 07, 2012, 01:41:24 PM
And you know, while everyone already talks about how bad the graphics of the PS1 and the N64 have aged, I'm honestly shocked at how bad the PS2 graphics have aged. I've been playing quite a bit of PS2 games lately, and I don't remember the games looking that bad. Some games don't look like too much of an improvement over the PS1.
Yeah, graphics on the PS2 are surprisingly fuzzy and squarish compared to the Xbox and Gamecube. It really is a shame so many games only had PS2 versions as it was the weakest system by far of that gen, it couldn't handle a lot of bigger scale games without performance problems, most PS2 versions of multiplatform games were the worst versions of the game for it.
I said even at the time when they came out, that as far as "pretty" graphics go, the Gamecube and the Xbox was it for me. After that point 3D graphics aren't going to be a big deal to me anymore. But PS1-era to PS2 games are a bit hard to look at at times unless the graphics are stylized like Sly Cooper, Goemon, Crash Bandicoot, or Smash Bros 64. Luckily almost every Dreamcast game had stylized 3D so they all still look pretty great now.
PlayStation is one of those things that fits into my rant from a few weeks ago, that I sometimes don't like things as much as I think I do. It has it's games that I like. But truthfully, I only have four reasons to continue owning my PS1. Resident Evil: Director's Cut, Twisted Metal 2, Dragon Seeds, and King's Field... actually, you know what, scratch out those last three cause I can live without those. The console only has 1 game that I need. But I guess that's one more than PS2 and PS3. I understand the PS2 is a quality system, but it doesn't have a lot that appeals to me, and what does appeal to me on it, is available on other consoles. PS3? Decent system on it's own, but a Blu-Ray player to me.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on February 07, 2012, 01:32:51 PMThe N64 was certainly a step down from the SNES in terms of the quality of its library, but honestly while everyone likes to rail on it for having a lot of games that haven't aged well, I personally disagree completely. I still love and play a lot of classic N64 games, and it still had more titles that suited my tastes at the time than the PS1 did, though its worth noting that I still liked both consoles.
I would actually disagree with this sentiment. The SNES is better, but I wouldn't even call the N64 a step down, more that it's a tiny bit worse. I just have more good games for the SNES. But truthfully, there are more N64 games that interest me, that I don't own now.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on February 07, 2012, 01:52:48 PMI would actually disagree with this sentiment. The SNES is better, but I wouldn't even call the N64 a step down, more that it's a tiny bit worse. I just have more good games for the SNES. But truthfully, there are more N64 games that interest me, that I don't own now.
See, I just can't agree with that. I've never really been a big "graphics" guy, so I didn't really enjoy that gen very much. Because of the big focus on 3D, so many franchises got the boot as no one was willing to even look into 2.5D at the time (look at how Klonoa and Goemon's Great Adventure bombed despite being heads and shoulders above most 3D platformers at the time), 2D gaming was almost throw out even by Nintendo. Mega Man, Street Fighter, Contra, Castlevania, and many other types of classic games were simply thrown aside and unless you bought a PS1 you couldn't play them. Quality of said games aside, this was a huge problem for me at the time. I didn't want to run around the same level 35 times doing slightly different things repeatedly, I wanted to have bigger scale games that built on what I already knew. Unfortunately, until the GBA and then the Wii. after the PS1 classic gaming was tossed aside for no real reason.
Where was Donkey Kong Country Returns during the N64? No, we got Donkey Kong 64. Where was Mega Man 9? Bionic Commando ReArmed? Contra 4? Castlevania ReBirth? Wario Land Shake It? New Super Mario Bros Wii? Or even newer series like Raskulls, Mutant Mudds, A Boy & His Blob, Shadow Complex, or Outland? Why did we have to wait two generations to see these games? Instead of those games we typically got 3D games that were no where near as good or well received, why were these games hated so much at the time? Clearly people wanted them, but they never got them.
It was why the Wii was such a breath of fresh air to me like I stated before. It felt like the system I actually wanted from Nintendo instead of the N64. Even XBLA and PSN offer more to me than said previous consoles did, purely for not shafting entire genres for no reason.
Not to say I hate the N64, but other than party gaming with my friends, it was not a console I used nearly as much as my NES, Genesis, or SNES. To me, it was n't really a step forward, but more of a two steps forward, two steps back kind of thing.
The problem is, Desensitized, the PS1 didn't have those game either, so its kind of a moot point to just hold it against the N64. As for the 3D platformer craze causing the 2D platformers to get shafted that gen, I can't deny that, but the difference between you and me in that regard is that I still liked quite a bit of the 3D games from that gen, so for me there were still enough good games to make the N64 a console worth playing, personally.
Its really all a matter of preference though, in that regard. While the N64's library was definitely much weaker than previous Nintendo consoles (as well as later Nintendo portable systems and the Wii), I still found much more appeal in it than the PS1. I owned a PS1 for most of that generation and couldn't find too many games that caught my interest, not to deny that it had those great games, but like I said a lot of them weren't my cup of tea at all.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on February 07, 2012, 02:13:29 PM
The problem is, Desensitized, the PS1 didn't have those game either, so its kind of a moot point to just hold it against the N64. As for the 3D platformer craze causing the 2D platformers to get shafted that gen, I can't deny that, but the difference between you and me in that regard is that I still liked quite a bit of the 3D games from that gen, so for me there were still enough good games to make the N64 a console worth playing, personally.
Its really all a matter of preference though, in that regard. While the N64's library was definitely much weaker than previous Nintendo consoles (as well as later Nintendo portable systems and the Wii), I still found much more appeal in it than the PS1. I owned a PS1 for most of that generation and couldn't find too many games that caught my interest, not to deny that it had those great games, but like I said a lot of them weren't my cup of tea at all.
But the PS1 did have some of them. Mega Man, Street Fighter, Strider, Rival Schools, Tomba, R-Type, Klonoa, Einhander, Castlevania... It had at least these as opposed to none. The N64 had like 3 2D games in total one of which was freaking Yoshi Story. Not only did the PS1 have 2D games, but also had the new style 3D games like Twisted Metal, Mega Man Legends 1 and 2, Crash Bandicoot, Jet Moto, or Soul Reaver giving it a balance. That's enough for it to give it the edge over the N64 for me. Even if I did like both systems, the PS1 simply offered more for me and it was the last one until the Wii to even feature these genres.
As I've said I don't mind 3D platformers or shooters, it was just that at the time it was the main focus on the system at the expense of certain genres, so 2D gaming was almost completely fazed out. Now at least there's some sort of a balance again.
But anyway, this isn't the anti-3D thread, so I'm not going to harp on it.
I do think the N64 has more than it's given credit for. Super Mario 64 which dwarfs every 3D platformer before it, two awesome Zeldas, F-Zero at it's best, Star Fox at it's best, Kirby 64 (proof that the system didn't forget 2D platforming), the first Smash Bros. which is still fun, the Turok series, Paper Mario, the NBA Jam '99 (my favorite sport game), the two best Mario Party games, the best Mario Tennis, Mario Kart 64, Diddy Kong Racing, Star Wars... Then there's Rare with it's best showing ever with games like GoldenEye 007, Perfect Dark, and Conker. Banjo and Donkey Kong 64 weren't too bad either. There's also plenty of games that, while I haven't played, show great promise like Ogre Battle 64. The list just goes on.
N64 was a fantastic system for local multiplayer, which is nearly dead now. And it had stellar single player games as well. Don't mind if you aren't a big fan of it. I just think it's a great system that isn't given a whole lot of credit. I definitely think it's better than the NES and N64, even if it's not as good as the SNES, and certainly not the Wii.
Yeah, the N64 was a good system. I like it, but I really don't think it offered even close to the same amount of stuff as the SNES. Still, I did enjoy it more than the Gamecube when Nintendo tried to be like everyone else.
Anyway, check this video out. Someone translated the Alex Kidd portion of Segaga which focuses on the system wars back in the day (http://www.gameinformer.com/b/features/archive/2012/02/07/segagaga.aspx), it's quite a sad story, but it makes me want more Alex Kidd games. Mario and Nintendo are censored, for obvious reasons.
I think it's a perfect video for this thread.
Well, 3D gaming was all the rage back then (and still is now, arguably), so it wasn't suprising that a lot of developers jumped on the bandwagon, and seeing 2D gaming as "obsolete". I'm glad that that way of thinking is over with, as more developers realize that 2D and 3D gaming can coexist without invalidating each other.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on February 07, 2012, 03:03:13 PM
I do think the N64 has more than it's given credit for. Super Mario 64 which dwarfs every 3D platformer before it, two awesome Zeldas, F-Zero at it's best, Star Fox at it's best, Kirby 64 (proof that the system didn't forget 2D platforming), the first Smash Bros. which is still fun, the Turok series, Paper Mario, the NBA Jam '99 (my favorite sport game), the two best Mario Party games, the best Mario Tennis, Mario Kart 64, Diddy Kong Racing, Star Wars... Then there's Rare with it's best showing ever with games like GoldenEye 007, Perfect Dark, and Conker. Banjo and Donkey Kong 64 weren't too bad either. There's also plenty of games that, while I haven't played, show great promise like Ogre Battle 64. The list just goes on.
N64 was a fantastic system for local multiplayer, which is nearly dead now. And it had stellar single player games as well. Don't mind if you aren't a big fan of it. I just think it's a great system that isn't given a whole lot of credit. I definitely think it's better than the NES and N64, even if it's not as good as the SNES, and certainly not the Wii.
Indeed. Some of the N64's exclusives are some of the best games I've ever played, and really hit the ball out of the park in terms of quality. It also had the advantage of having four controller ports. Why Sony still stuck with a two port system for the PS2 baffles me.
Anywhoo, the idea of getting a Dreamcast has been floating in my head for a while now (They're only $40 where I'm at), but I've been hesitant about spending my money on anything. The fact that a few of the games I want for it cost a lot isn't helping matters any.
Quote from: Rynnec on February 07, 2012, 03:10:16 PM
Anywhoo, the idea of getting a Dreamcast has been floating in my head for a while now (They're only $40 where I'm at), but I've been hesitant about spending my money on anything. The fact that a few of the games I want for it cost a lot isn't helping matters any.
Really? The two stores that stock them around here have them for $18 and $20 respectively, when they have them in stock. Key word, when.
Yep, they always seem to have them in stock in my local gamestore. And last time I checked, the actual games could go from over $50, to under $15, depending on how common the game is.
Commodore 64
CD-i
Atari Jaguar
Xbox
Zeebo
Haters gonna' hate. :thinkin:
To be fair I wouldn't pit the XBOX with any of those consoles. Its not really a very good console, but I did get to play good games on it, so its certainly not a really bad console either. Besides, the fact that it had Ninja Gaiden Black on it automatically saves it from being shit, since that is in fact the best game ever made, even though nobody but me is smart enough to realize that. :sly:
The Commodore 64 is actually pretty good, too. I just put what I considered to be the worst of each console generation on there. ;)
Impossible Mission is a good game.
Thanks for reminding me that I need to learn if the DS version is any good.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on February 07, 2012, 05:18:50 PM
To be fair I wouldn't pit the XBOX with any of those consoles. Its not really a very good console, but I did get to play good games on it, so its certainly not a really bad console either. Besides, the fact that it had Ninja Gaiden Black on it automatically saves it from being shit, since that is in fact the best game ever made, even though nobody but me is smart enough to realize that. :sly:
Really, other than Halo, the Dreamcast ports, Ninja Gaiden, and a platformer/shooter or two, the original Xbox didn't really have much going for it.
Quote from: Comeau on February 07, 2012, 01:41:24 PM
And you know, while everyone already talks about how bad the graphics of the PS1 and the N64 have aged, I'm honestly shocked at how bad the PS2 graphics have aged. I've been playing quite a bit of PS2 games lately, and I don't remember the games looking that bad. Some games don't look like too much of an improvement over the PS1.
Really depends on the game. Most of the first party titles like Ratchet and Clank, Sly Cooper, Jak and Daxter, and God of War still look really good. Hell, even the Fatal Frame and MGS sequels are still pretty. But stuff like Persona 3 and The Red Star? Hell no.
Really, compare the PS2 version of Resident Evil 4 to Nemesis or Code Veronica and you'll see that the PS2's graphics were still head and shoulders above those of the past generation (I, like E-K, consider the Dreamcast to be part of the N64/PS1 era). The GameCube and Xbox looked a lot better and the PC was already producing stuff like F.E.A.R., but PS2 games look perfectly fine and haven't aged poorly at all IMO.
Quote from: Rynnec on February 07, 2012, 06:05:18 PM
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on February 07, 2012, 05:18:50 PM
To be fair I wouldn't pit the XBOX with any of those consoles. Its not really a very good console, but I did get to play good games on it, so its certainly not a really bad console either. Besides, the fact that it had Ninja Gaiden Black on it automatically saves it from being shit, since that is in fact the best game ever made, even though nobody but me is smart enough to realize that. :sly:
Really, other than Halo, the Dreamcast ports, Ninja Gaiden, and a platformer/shooter or two, the original Xbox didn't really have much going for it.
I thought Black was for the 360 anyway.
Quote from: Foggle on February 07, 2012, 06:15:06 PM
Quote from: Comeau on February 07, 2012, 01:41:24 PM
And you know, while everyone already talks about how bad the graphics of the PS1 and the N64 have aged, I'm honestly shocked at how bad the PS2 graphics have aged. I've been playing quite a bit of PS2 games lately, and I don't remember the games looking that bad. Some games don't look like too much of an improvement over the PS1.
Really depends on the game. Most of the first party titles like Ratchet and Clank, Sly Cooper, Jak and Daxter, and God of War still look really good. Hell, even the Fatal Frame and MGS sequels are still pretty. But stuff like Persona 3 and The Red Star? Hell no.
Really, compare the PS2 version of Resident Evil 4 to Nemesis or Code Veronica and you'll see that the PS2's graphics were still head and shoulders above those of the past generation (I, like E-K, consider the Dreamcast to be part of the N64/PS1 era). The GameCube and Xbox looked a lot better and the PC was already producing stuff like F.E.A.R., but PS2 games look perfectly fine and haven't aged poorly at all IMO.
To be fair, The Red Star was an unfinished game that was sort of rushed to completion. But yeah, games like Persona 3, Maximo, Shinobi, and MGS3 would have benefited a lot for being on the other systems. If you want an example of the difference in power level, check out the PS2 version of Sonic Heroes. It might still be a bad game regardless, but the PS2 version has a lot more problems than either the Xbox or Gamecube versions. The PS2 can barely handle it. It's not as big a gap as the Wii is to the HD systems, but it's still very obviously the weakest of the 3.
The Dreamcast was blessed with developers who chose to make syilized games, so it still looks good. But the Saturn's 3D REALLY looks awful. The 2D stuff looks phenomenal, but the 3D is really awful. It's sort of the opposite of the N64 in that way to me.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 07, 2012, 06:52:27 PM
To be fair, The Red Star was an unfinished game that was sort of rushed to completion.
And yet it's still one of the best games of last gen. :thumbup:
Quote from: Foggle on February 07, 2012, 06:59:41 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 07, 2012, 06:52:27 PM
To be fair, The Red Star was an unfinished game that was sort of rushed to completion.
And yet it's still one of the best games of last gen. :thumbup:
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Quote from: talonmalon333 on February 07, 2012, 06:38:11 PM
I thought Black was for the 360 anyway.
You can play it on the XBOX360 either by downloading it or using the disc which is BC, but either way players have noticed various bugs that occur when playing the game on the XBOX360 and for some reason longer loading times as well. Those are all minor annoyances, but it is a fact that the game just runs better on the original XBOX. Also, the XBOX had the downloadable Hurricane Packs as well, which can't be played on the XBOX360, so that was another edge for having the original XBOX to play Ninja Gaiden on.
Quote from: Rynnec on February 07, 2012, 06:05:18 PM
Really, other than Halo, the Dreamcast ports, Ninja Gaiden, and a platformer/shooter or two, the original Xbox didn't really have much going for it.
Halo (first 2 games)
Ninja Gaiden/Hurricane Packs/Black
Jet Set Radio Future
Oddworld: Munch's Odyssey
Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath
Otogi 1 and 2
Dead or Alive Ultimate
The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay
Phantom Dust
Jade Empire
Those are the games that I could think of off the top of my head, which is probably most of what the XBOX had to offer anyways. Still, that's at least 10 good games and IMO that's enough to keep the XBOX from being a complete piece of shit console like most people say. I'm not denying that its definitely the weakest console from last-gen, but its certainly not a bad one with those games, either. BTW I purposely didn't list Fable because I think its shit, but that's just my opinion.
I can't believe some of those aren't BC or available on Games On Demand/Xbox Originals. Every system needs full BC from this point on, at least with the previous gen. No excuse without it.
I'm debating getting the Jak Collection, but since I probably won't be able to play it for a long time I might just have to wait on it.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on February 07, 2012, 09:00:01 PM
Quote from: Rynnec on February 07, 2012, 06:05:18 PM
Really, other than Halo, the Dreamcast ports, Ninja Gaiden, and a platformer/shooter or two, the original Xbox didn't really have much going for it.
Halo (first 2 games)
Ninja Gaiden/Hurricane Packs/Black
Jet Set Radio Future
Oddworld: Munch's Odyssey
Oddworld: Stranger's Wrath
Otogi 1 and 2
Dead or Alive Ultimate
The Chronicles of Riddick: Escape from Butcher Bay'
Phantom Dust
Jade Empire
Those are the games that I could think of off the top of my head, which is probably most of what the XBOX had to offer anyways. Still, that's at least 10 good games and IMO that's enough to keep the XBOX from being a complete piece of shit console like most people say.
I'd also add Star Wars Republic Commando to that list, personally. I guess the KotoR games could go there as well. There's also Panzer Dragoon Orta, even though I haven't played it, there are definitely people out there who would coniser that it's worth getting an Xbox for.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 07, 2012, 09:15:41 PM
I can't believe some of those aren't BC or available on Games On Demand/Xbox Originals. Every system needs full BC from this point on, at least with the previous gen. No excuse without it.
I'm debating getting the Jak Collection, but since I probably won't be able to play it for a long time I might just have to wait on it.
Speaking of Jak, I still need to finish my copy of the first Jak and Daxter (I've had it for almost 5 years!). I also have the first three Ratchet and Clank games sitting around my house. I really should find the time to play them.
I found a discount store today that was selling old issues of Nintendo Power in the very back next to the comics and manga. I bought around 5 of them, one because it had Fire Emblem on the cover and the others because they were from the late 90s and had a lot of the ads I remember staring at as a kid.
One of them even has the cutout offer for that promotional dK64 banana controller. Stupid thing will forever haunt me.
The N64 was certainly a disappointment for me. I loved the Nintendo and Rare games that the system got, but after that I mostly ignored it. I got an N64 in 1996. In 1998 I got a PS1 and from that point on I only played the N64 rarely, mostly for Majora's Mask. Overall it was good, but nowhere near the level of the SNES.
It really isn't fair to complain about the ugliness of 3D graphics on the late-90s systems. Most of the games made during that period were pretty shaky. Developers were still getting on their feet trying to figure out the best way to utilize this new technology, and most of their output shows that. To me personally, it wasn't until Spyro came out that 3D gaming entered what could be called it's prime.
As far as who won that war, PS1 was victorious, but not because of anything Sony did. The Saturn was a flop due to Bernie Stoler's incompetence and Sega of America's inexplicable decision to leave the system's best games in Japan. The N64, bless it's heart, was gimped by the cartridge format and a horrible sound chip. Sony was merely at the right place at the right time, and reaped huge dividends.
With regards to the last generation, the transition to HDTV has made them all pretty crappy. It's simply impossible for a 480i (or if your lucky, 480p) game to look as good as one natively programmed to 720p. PS2 fares the worst in this regard, mostly because the system had no fullscreen anti-aliasing (seriously, what the hell was Sony thinking? Even the Dc had that).
Yeah, the more the years go by the more I'm certain that Sony is just an incompetent company that got lucky. You know why the PS1 was such a great system? Because there was nothing wrong with it to scare off third parties. The N64 was hard to develop for and it couldn't handle 2D games or arcade ports, and the Saturn could barely handle 3D games and was the single most difficult system to make games for. Meanwhile sits the nonchalant PS1 that isn't perfect at either but strikes the balance that everyone wanted.
Then you had the PS2 which everyone bought and made games for because it was out first and could play DVDs. Ironically, this same head start is what made the 360 overtake the PS3 the following gen. It was the followup to a successful system so everyone just bought it based on promises. It certainly wasn't its embarrassing first year or two.
And finally the PSP got its massive success in Japan because of a third party fluke called Monster Hunter. If Capcom didn't make this game, the system would have completely faded away. Again, nothing Sony did brought it success.
I'm not saying they never had good ideas, good games, or good systems, but their success seemed very luck based more so than anything they've actually done themselves as a game company.
I know they aren't technically made by Sony, but the PS1 and PS2 had tons of great first-and-third party exclusives. I think Sony definitely knew what they were doing back then. I agree that the PSP's success is entirely luck-based, however, and they've done nothing but fuck themselves over constantly with the PS3.
Eurogamer article on Rare's demise. (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-02-08-who-killed-rare)
It turns out Microsoft did a lot more damage than we thought.
I remember that Virtual Bart game being fucking impossible when my brother and me rented it when we were kids. All I remember from Bart's Nightmare is some living room level and Super Bart. Also, good find with Clash at Demonhead. Said little brother also has that on my laptop so I need to get into that and try to get past the first level more than once.
Quote from: Rynnec on February 07, 2012, 06:05:18 PM
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on February 07, 2012, 05:18:50 PM
To be fair I wouldn't pit the XBOX with any of those consoles. Its not really a very good console, but I did get to play good games on it, so its certainly not a really bad console either. Besides, the fact that it had Ninja Gaiden Black on it automatically saves it from being shit, since that is in fact the best game ever made, even though nobody but me is smart enough to realize that. :sly:
Really, other than Halo, the Dreamcast ports, Ninja Gaiden, and a platformer/shooter or two, the original Xbox didn't really have much going for it.
Only the first party for Xbox sucked. It's 3rd party was on par with PS2's since a lot of third party games couldn't be made on the GC (because the SKUs or whatever the shit they are) and Xbox almost always had the better version of a multiplaform game than PS2. Imo, PS2 is only better because of exclusives.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 08, 2012, 03:46:51 PM
Eurogamer article on Rare's demise. (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-02-08-who-killed-rare)
It turns out Microsoft did a lot more damage than we thought.
It really is any wonder that Rare continues to stay afloat in this day and age. I know they've found a niche in pushing Kinect shovelware and all, but they're just so irrelevant in the overall grand scheme of today's industry. They really used to be a major player; now it's almost like a small miracle to even hear their name come up.
I do want to say, though, that I've always felt Nuts and Bolts was pretty underrated. A bit quirky, sure, and certainly not what we were all hoping for and/or expecting in a Banjo-Kazooie sequel eight years after the fact, but it's far from being a bad game. It's just too bad that the franchise is pretty much dead because of it (you knew a game like this wasn't going to strike much of a chord with general audiences, as we've seen).
Quote from: Kiddington on February 08, 2012, 04:28:16 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 08, 2012, 03:46:51 PM
Eurogamer article on Rare's demise. (http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2012-02-08-who-killed-rare)
It turns out Microsoft did a lot more damage than we thought.
It really is any wonder that Rare continues to stay afloat in this day and age. I know they've found a niche in pushing Kinect shovelware and all, but they're just so irrelevant in the overall grand scheme of today's industry. They really used to be a major player; now it's almost like a small miracle to even hear their name come up.
I do want to say, though, that I've always felt Nuts and Bolts was pretty underrated. A bit quirky, sure, and certainly not what we were all hoping for and/or expecting in a Banjo-Kazooie sequel eight years after the fact, but it's far from being a bad game. It's just too bad that the franchise is pretty much dead because of it (you knew a game like this wasn't going to strike much of a chord with general audiences, as we've seen).
I think Rare just doesn't mesh with the Microsoft audience. Also, most of their teams seemed to stumble a lot in the years after Perfect Dark until around Kameo which is almost two full generations in length. Microsoft changing things around leading to most of the talent quitting probably what really hurt them.
And since they're stuck making another Wii Sports clone we might never see a new Banjo Kazooie, Killer Instinct, Perfect Dark (a REAL one), Jet Force Gemini, Battletoads, or Conker game again. All those franchises are just sitting there rotting and wasting away.
*sigh* Just hearing something like "A Battletoads 4 announcement will be made shortly" would make my heart beat. Rare was my absolute favorite developer.
The fact that Rare and Microsoft haven't done anything with Killer Instinct puzzles me. It seems like it would mesh well with Microsofts audience, and it would give them another exclusive fighting game franchise. Perfect Dark I can somewhat understand seeing how Zero got a lukewarm reception.
Actually, I think Perfect Dark Zero was a million seller. The problem was fan backlash. A proper sequel to the original would have sold a LOT more, though. That's for sure.
But yeah, Killer Instinct especially after Mortal Kombat's huge return would have made so much sense. Heck, making a KI character a guest character in the latest game instead of nobody probably would have been a smarter idea. Microsoft just doesn't know what to do with Rare.
QuoteTo anyone thinking it was Rare who killed themselves, Grant Kirkhope spoke out in a podcast a while back claiming it was Microsoft that "shot the company to hell". He also made claims that Rare had begged Microsoft to change Nuts & Bolts into what it became, and that the original concept was far worse than what we got.
So it's Microsoft's fault that we didn't get Banjo Threeie.
Like Nuts n Bolts all you want, but that should not have been a replacement for a sequel at least millions of people were waiting for.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 08, 2012, 06:08:42 PM
QuoteTo anyone thinking it was Rare who killed themselves, Grant Kirkhope spoke out in a podcast a while back claiming it was Microsoft that "shot the company to hell". He also made claims that Rare had begged Microsoft to change Nuts & Bolts into what it became, and that the original concept was far worse than what we got.
So it's Microsoft's fault that we didn't get Banjo Threeie.
Like Nuts n Bolts all you want, but that should not have been a replacement for a sequel at least millions of people were waiting for.
Oddly enough, this is similar to what Nintendo made Rare do with the Star Fox game for GC.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 08, 2012, 06:08:42 PM
Like Nuts n Bolts all you want, but that should not have been a replacement for a sequel at least millions of people were waiting for.
Like Nut n Bolts? My childhood ended the day it was revealed to not be a platformer.
This trailer (http://www.gametrailers.com/video/x06-trailer-banjo-kazooie-nuts/13585) brings tears to my eyes now. Banjo is back? Fuck you Microsoft.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 08, 2012, 06:08:42 PM
Like Nuts n Bolts all you want, but that should not have been a replacement for a sequel at least millions of people were waiting for.
Hey, I'll be the first to admit that Nuts and Bolts
isn't what we should have gotten, and ultimately was what killed the Banjo-Kazooie franchise for good. Taking the series in a totally different direction just wasn't going to sell - and it didn't - and it really is a large part of the blame for Rare being a complete non-factor in today's industry (if they had instead made Banjo-Threeie, there's no doubt that it would have been a smash hit ala BK-1 and Tooie, and Rare would probably still be a relevant factor for Microsoft, as opposed to peddling Kinect shovelware like they are now). And again, it pretty much killed BK for good; we'll probably never get another game in this series again because of it's tepid sales and lukewarm reception/outright backlash.
...that being said,
I still kinda liked it. I didn't love it, not by any means, but I thought it was fine for what it was. So sue me.
The reason people don't like Nuts and Bolts is because it has the Banjo Kazooie name and design slapped onto it. In terms of gameplay there is almost no basis for the hate. Basically if it was just a game called Nuts and Bolts with the same mechanics but different characters and was its own game not related to Banjo Kazooie, it'd probably be more well-liked, though also more niche since nobody would bother even paying attention to it.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 08, 2012, 06:08:42 PM
QuoteTo anyone thinking it was Rare who killed themselves, Grant Kirkhope spoke out in a podcast a while back claiming it was Microsoft that "shot the company to hell". He also made claims that Rare had begged Microsoft to change Nuts & Bolts into what it became, and that the original concept was far worse than what we got.
So it's Microsoft's fault that we didn't get Banjo Threeie.
Like Nuts n Bolts all you want, but that should not have been a replacement for a sequel at least millions of people were waiting for.
I'm confused. That quote you just put up says that Rare begged Microsoft to change Nuts and Bolts into what it is....as in the game that we have now, and it says that the "original" concept was much worse than what we got. So, does that mean that Rare asked Microsoft to deliberately let them change it into a vehicle-building game? And what was the original concept supposed to be, then? Maybe I'm just not reading it right, though, or out of context....:-\
Just like Devil May Cry 2.
OK, maybe not the best example but it's an average game that people think is much worse than it really is.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on February 08, 2012, 09:51:07 PM
I'm confused. That quote you just put up says that Rare begged Microsoft to change Nuts and Bolts into what it is....as in the game that we have now, and it says that the "original" concept was much worse than what we got. So, does that mean that Rare asked Microsoft to deliberately let them change it into a vehicle-building game? And what was the original concept supposed to be, then? Maybe I'm just not reading it right, though, or out of context....:-\
He means that the original version of Banjo 3 Microsoft wanted them to do was even more of an abomination.
^GAH!
I'm still reading through the differences between Earthbound and Mother 2 (script and graphic change wise). I love shit like this.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 08, 2012, 06:00:59 PM
But yeah, Killer Instinct especially after Mortal Kombat's huge return would have made so much sense. Heck, making a KI character a guest character in the latest game instead of nobody probably would have been a smarter idea. Microsoft just doesn't know what to do with Rare.
This was actually brought up a little while ago during I think Game Developers Conference or E3. The gist of it is Killer Instinct isn't getting revived because the crew at Rare feels there's nothing the game can offer to stand out among today's video games, and something about fighting games not being instant sellers in this day and age.
I'm pretty sure the guest character idea was also brought up (along with the other Microsoft dudes like the Chief and Fenix). That one entirely came down to Microsoft not willing to pay for exclusive characters like Sony did.
Oh yeah, I bought a Game Gear today. It came with the carrying case (good for storage), 11 games, and the AC adaptor... which of course I will never not use with it so I picked it up. I had a Game Gear a LONG time ago but sold it off for space way back when. I need to find some of the older ones like Sonic 1, Fantasy Zone Gear, Land Of Illusion Starring Mickey Mouse, and the Shinobi games.
A few are sports games, but I also got Sonic 2, Chuck Rock, Dynamite Headdy, Super Columns, Ecco The Dolphin, and Aladdin.
That's pretty cool about the Game Gear, I have one at home somewhere. You wouldn't have any interest in owning the TV Tuner for it would you? Because I know of a store locally that has one, and I thought about buying it for shits and giggles, since it won't receive any channels worth a damn anymore(it's analog).
Also, anyone got any recs for N64 games, maybe some good games that are lesser known? I'm looking to expand my collection right now, but I want games outside of the usual ones everyone mentions. I already have Perfect Dark(a game I haven't played in years) and Majora's Mask(a game I haven't played at all) on my list.
Obscure N64 games? Off the top of my head:
-The Bomberman games
-Quest 64
-Buck Bumble
-Battletanx
-Space Station Sillicon Valley
-Beast Wars Transmetals
Other than the Bomberman games and Quest, I haven't played the games on this list, but they do fit the bill of lesser talked about N64 games.
Jet Force Gemini was pretty good from what I remember, and while not necessarily obscure it was probably the least popular Rare game on the N64, so I'd say its worth a look. But then again I haven't played it in ages, so it may not have aged as well as I remember it.
Buck Bumble is pretty awesome. Love the theme song.
If you're willing to spend a little extra, I'd go with these:
Harvest Moon 64
Ogre Battle 64
...of course, you're probably pretty familiar with Harvest Moon, and that's definitely about as niche as it gets (although the old ones are still a lot of fun, IMO). So that might not be your cup of tea.
Ogre Battle 64 is great, though, especially if you like RTS's. It's pretty much the only RTS on the N64 as well, which is kinda interesting.
Both of these can be pretty expensive though, so you might not be in the market for spending that much (they can cost an upwards of $30-40, depending on when you're looking).
Mischief Makers
Legend Of The Mystical Ninja
Goemon's Great Adventure
Blast Corps.
Hybrid Heaven
Rocket: Robot On Wheels (Suckerpunch made this. It's never getting rereleased)
Mickey's Racing Speedway (Rare + Disney)
Beetle Adventure Racing (I know you know this, but it bears repeating for EVERYONE)
Along with what everyone else mentioned. Body Harvest is also an interesting idea.
Quote from: Kiddington on February 10, 2012, 06:15:35 PM
Ogre Battle 64 is great, though, especially if you like RTS's. It's pretty much the only RTS on the N64 as well, which is kinda interesting.
There's also the utterly pointless StarCraft 64.
On Quest: While it has nothing to write home about, it does have a pretty unique battle syste. so it's worth checking out for that at least.
There's also the original Rogue Squadron. It's a rather decent game that's overshadowed by its sequel. Shadows of the Empire is also a serviceable TPS for its time (it also has a killer first level).
Quote from: Foggle on February 10, 2012, 05:54:35 PM
Buck Bumble is pretty awesome. Love the theme song.
Talk about an earworm. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5G7eB8tl9Yw&feature=related)
Quote from: Foggle on February 10, 2012, 06:18:58 PM
Quote from: Kiddington on February 10, 2012, 06:15:35 PM
Ogre Battle 64 is great, though, especially if you like RTS's. It's pretty much the only RTS on the N64 as well, which is kinda interesting.
There's also the utterly pointless StarCraft 64.
On a slightly related but off topic tangent, Diablo 1 for the PS1 is a great port. Especially if you love same screen co-op.
Already have Mischief Makers, just knew someone would mention that one. I have wondered about that Mickey Racing game though...
Thanks guys, I'll keep these in mind.
Quote from: Foggle on February 10, 2012, 06:18:58 PM
Quote from: Kiddington on February 10, 2012, 06:15:35 PM
Ogre Battle 64 is great, though, especially if you like RTS's. It's pretty much the only RTS on the N64 as well, which is kinda interesting.
There's also the utterly pointless StarCraft 64.
There's also a Command and Conquer 64.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 10, 2012, 06:18:14 PM
Blast Corps.
:thumbup:
Great game, and made by Rare no less. Definitely one I'd recommend, especially if you're on a budget (most I've seen it cost is about $20, and usually that's with a box; cart alone should only be about 5-10, at most).
Quote from: Foggle on February 10, 2012, 06:18:58 PM
Quote from: Kiddington on February 10, 2012, 06:15:35 PM
Ogre Battle 64 is great, though, especially if you like RTS's. It's pretty much the only RTS on the N64 as well, which is kinda interesting.
There's also the utterly pointless StarCraft 64.
Haha, wow. I'd actually forgotten there was an N64 version of that.
Looks pretty expensive, too; right up there in price with the others I mentioned. Wonder why that is.
Quote from: Rynnec on February 10, 2012, 06:20:38 PM
Shadows of the Empire is also a serviceable TPS for its time (it also has a killer first level).
Fuck yes, I love that game. I wish I could get the PC version to work properly on Win 7... :(
Aladdin for the Game Gear is awesome. I totally recommend this for platformer fans. Oh yeah, and it isn't a port of either 16 bit game.
I wish Disney would rerelease their old games. Obscurities like this alone would be worth it.
I don't think I had Aladdin for GG(I have it for Genesis), I know I had Lion King, which is alright.
I also had some Donald Duck game that was pretty good. Wish I could remember the name of that one. Oh, and for you there's always the Ren and Stimpy game, which is also pretty good(better than the other R&S games I've played).
Quote from: Comeau on February 10, 2012, 08:37:23 PMI also had some Donald Duck game that was pretty good. Wish I could remember the name of that one. Oh, and for you there's always the Ren and Stimpy game, which is also pretty good(better than the other R&S games I've played).
The Lucky Dime Caper? Another Sega/Disney great.
There was more than one 16 bit Aladdin game?
I 2nd the hell out of Jet Force Gemini. That and Duke Nukem 64 are the two best TPSs from that gen. Did I mention that I'm recommending Duke Nukem 64?
Yeah, there's the SNES platformer by Capcom, and the Genesis action platformer by Virgin. System warriors have debated over which one is better for ages. The Game Gear one is closer to a 2D Prince Of Persia style game, and it follows the movie quite tightly, but it's a perfect portable game.
Back when Disney was getting quality games based on their films.
I of course only played the Genesis version. That was also way before I knew what the hell Prince Of Persia was.
And yeah, good movie games are such a distant memory.
Quote from: gunswordfist on February 11, 2012, 07:14:32 PM
That and Duke Nukem 64 are the two best TPSs from that gen. Did I mention that I'm recommending Duke Nukem 64?
Do you mean Zero Hour? Duke Nukem 64 is a censored/technically inferior port of Duke Nukem 3D and is not third person.
Quote from: Foggle on February 11, 2012, 08:04:01 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on February 11, 2012, 07:14:32 PM
That and Duke Nukem 64 are the two best TPSs from that gen. Did I mention that I'm recommending Duke Nukem 64?
Do you mean Zero Hour? Duke Nukem 64 is a censored/technically inferior port of Duke Nukem 3D and is not third person.
I believe that's it. The Duke I played was 3rd person and not a DN3D port.
Yeah, Zero Hour is badass. Probably the only good 3rd person Duke game.
Quote from: Foggle on February 11, 2012, 08:25:57 PM
Yeah, Zero Hour is badass. Probably the only good 3rd person Duke game.
I was thinking about how I liked Time To Kill but even back then I knew it was kind of a cheaply made game. Shit, did PS1 even have any good TPSs?
It had Silent Bomber which is sort of a TPS, but traditional TPS games? Not many I can think of.
If you have an incredibly loose definition of TPS, Fear Effect might count. Might.
And the first three Tomb Raiders were decent.
Quote from: Foggle on February 11, 2012, 08:32:52 PM
If you have an incredibly loose definition of TPS, Fear Effect might count. Might.
And the first three Tomb Raiders were decent.
I actually thought about Tomb Raider and didn't count it. I have no clue what Fear Effect plays like.
Anyway, it just reminds me that TPS is the most overlooked genre there is despite what the hardcore dumbasses say. At least beat em ups get lover here and there.
Got a copy of Bart Vs. The Space Mutants complete in box(this is my third copy of this fucking game). The box isn't quite as mint as my Virtual Bart box, one of the corners is a bit worn, but it's still in good shape nonetheless for a 22 year old game. It also has the manual and all the ads and such.
Also got Spot(AKA Cool Spot) for Game Boy and Lufia: The Legend Continues for Game Boy Color. Oh, and a six button Genesis controller. I don't know about you guys, but I've noticed it's rather difficult to find actual Sega controllers, either three button or six button. Usually all I ever see is Super Pads and shit like that.
Man, Sega made some awesome controllers. I wasn't big on the Dreamcast's d-pad or lack of second analog stick at the time, but that thing grows on you. Say what you will of Sega, but their controllers are some of the best.
http://andriasang.com/con02h/game_gear_3ds/
A date(March 14) and a sneak peek at Game Gear games on the 3DS Virtual Console. Looks pretty sweet.
A certain cult PS1 fighting game was released on the Japanese PSN store recently (http://andriasang.com/con02g/rival_schools_psn/)
Hope this means a US release isn't too far off the mark. I've been meaning to play this title for quite some time. And I'd prefer to not pay $60 for it (much as I would like an authentic copy).
^To add to all that amazing news:
JET SET RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! (http://blogs.sega.com/2012/02/23/guess-whos-back/#more-12966)
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 23, 2012, 11:14:53 AM
^To add to all that amazing news:
JET SET RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! (http://blogs.sega.com/2012/02/23/guess-whos-back/#more-12966)
Holy dicks. I hope we get both games on PC. That'd be amazing.
Shenmue, too, eventually.
Thank you, Sega! It took you forever to finally do this, but you still got it on XBLA and all JSR fans are eternally grateful for it. I can't wait for it. Its my top priority XBLA game to get, now.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on February 23, 2012, 11:53:33 AM
Thank you, Sega! It took you forever to finally do this, but you still got it on XBLA and all JSR fans are eternally grateful for it. I can't wait for it. Its not my top priority XBLA game to get, now.
I'm just curious, basing on how you worded this. Did you mean to say "Its
now my top priority XBLA game to get,"? :P
Quote from: Rynnec on February 23, 2012, 04:30:14 AM
A certain cult PS1 fighting game was released on the Japanese PSN store recently (http://andriasang.com/con02g/rival_schools_psn/)
Hope this means a US release isn't too far off the mark. I've been meaning to play this title for quite some time. And I'd prefer to not pay $60 for it (much as I would like an authentic copy).
Man, Spark must be loving today.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 23, 2012, 11:14:53 AM
^To add to all that amazing news:
JET SET RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! (http://blogs.sega.com/2012/02/23/guess-whos-back/#more-12966)
Wow, that's pretty cool, it'll be convenient to play both on the same system. But I still do want a DC.
If you make an account at GOG (https://www.gog.com), you get six free games! Not all of them are classics (I could do without Dragonsphere, Lure of the Temptress, and Teenagent), but the other three (Beneath a Steel Sky, Tyrian 2000, and Ultima 4) are amazing. They're all fairly old, so I don't see any reason as to why they wouldn't work on any of your computers. Give 'em a shot!
The site also hosts a shitton of great, classic PC games including Thief, Deus Ex, Baldur's Gate, and Freespace. Every game on there is either $6 or $10 (except for The Witcher 2, which is 40) and completely DRM-free. Not all are guaranteed to work on Windows 7 or 64-bit machines, but most of them do and it'll tell you if they're possibly incompatible in case you're worried about that.
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Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 23, 2012, 11:14:53 AM
JET SET RAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAADIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!! (http://blogs.sega.com/2012/02/23/guess-whos-back/#more-12966)
Awesome!
My original copy of JSR is long gone, so this is pretty great news. Can't wait to play it again.
I got a good deal for two Wii point cards and scooped up a bunch of games. Sonic 1 and 2 Master System, Alex Kidd In Shinobi World, Super Turrican 2, Super Castlevania 4, and have enough left over for Double Dragon 2 when it finally hits and whatever else catches my eye.
I got all those games because I realized that the carts were not worth seeking out, and since they'll be carrying over to Wii U regardless it's much more convenient. VC games are always perfectly emulated, too.
Lets get scratchin! (http://blogs.sega.com/2012/02/28/jet-set-contest/)
The game is now in widescreen, and will hopefully be a perfect port. Rumors have it that next might be Sonic Adventure 2 then the Shenmue games.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 28, 2012, 06:57:53 PM
Rumors have it that next might be Sonic Adventure 2 then the Shenmue games.
All of my money. Day 1 every fucking time if Sega brings them all to Steam (highly likely).
Quote from: Foggle on February 28, 2012, 07:21:55 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 28, 2012, 06:57:53 PM
Rumors have it that next might be Sonic Adventure 2 then the Shenmue games.
All of my money. Day 1 every fucking time if Sega brings them all to Steam (highly likely).
Pssst (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=464860)
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 28, 2012, 07:47:18 PM
Quote from: Foggle on February 28, 2012, 07:21:55 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 28, 2012, 06:57:53 PM
Rumors have it that next might be Sonic Adventure 2 then the Shenmue games.
All of my money. Day 1 every fucking time if Sega brings them all to Steam (highly likely).
Pssst (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=464860)
QuoteNew story elements will be added in the game. The original writer of Persona 2 will be writing the new scenarios.
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http://kotaku.com/5889091/new-game-for-1991s-favorite-console-arriving-in-2013 (http://kotaku.com/5889091/new-game-for-1991s-favorite-console-arriving-in-2013)
I'm not sure whether to think if these guys are crazy awesome, or just plain crazy.
Damn....If this IS actually a serious attempt at making a good retro-game, then these guys are seriously dedicated to it. That said, they must know that the game will really only have a market among hardcore SNES collectors, since going by the pre-order limit they don't seem to be making a lot of copies (which kind of makes sense since the games just flat-out wouldn't sell beyond the crowd of really hardcore Nintendo fans, since most people, including myself, no longer own a working SNES console).
That's too bad about the 600 copies thing(I hope that's only an initial number, but taking the expense it must be to produce the game I'm feeling it's not), because I would love to check it out, but at that low of a number it seems unlikely I'd ever be able to.
That is so awesome.
My SNES is very much alive and kicking, and if I could actually manage to scrape together the money needed for such a thing, I am so there. Hopefully by then, I'll actually have a job again.
Hey, they're still making Dreamcast, NES, and Genesis games, so why not? Too bad they sell out so fast.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 29, 2012, 06:30:18 PM
Hey, they're still making Dreamcast, NES, and Genesis games, so why not? Too bad they sell out so fast.
The hell?
NES: Battle Kid
Genesis: Pier Solar
Dreamcast: GunLord
Look 'em up. ;)
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 29, 2012, 07:39:06 PM
NES: Battle Kid
Genesis: Pier Solar
Dreamcast: GunLord
Look 'em up. ;)
GunLord...that's ringing a bell.
So I went to pick up a used game today due to my free one and found they had a 3 for 1 deal going on. So I got R&CF:ToD, Quest For Booty, and Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition for the deal. It grabbed Umbrella Chronicles for my free game.
They did not have Crack In Time or Darkside Chronicles, so that's why those were purchased. Not that I can complain, I basically got 4 games for the price of one.
So basically four birds with one stone today. ;D
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 06, 2012, 11:35:13 AM
So I went to pick up a used game today due to my free one and found they had a 3 for 1 deal going on. So I got R&CF:ToD, Quest For Booty, and Resident Evil 4 Wii Edition for the deal. It grabbed Umbrella Chronicles for my free game.
They did not have Crack In Time or Darkside Chronicles, so that's why those were purchased. Not that I can complain, I basically got 4 games for the price of one.
So basically four birds with one stone today. ;D
Beautiful. I love it when stuff like that happens.
So the following games are being removed from the VC in Europe:
Quote-R-Type (TG16)
-Super R-Type (SNES)
-R-Type III: The Third Lightning (SNES)
-Vigilante (TG16)
-Ninja Spirit (TG16)
-Legend of Hero Tonma (TG16)
-Military Madness: Nectaris (WiiWare)
Does anybody know which of these are worth getting? I mean I have Ninja Spirit (HIGHLY recommended for Shinobi and Ninja Gaiden fans) which is great, but if these get removed from the NA one it would be a shame to miss out since... Well, TG16 emulators are hard to get working.
Never heard of it. Recommend more games like it.
Like Ninja Spirit? Well there's Alex Kidd In Shinobi World, the Ninja Gaiden trilogy, the non-Shadow Dancer Shinobi games, and games like those. They're pretty hard to come by now.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 10, 2012, 09:21:44 PM
Like Ninja Spirit? Well there's Alex Kidd In Shinobi World, the Ninja Gaiden trilogy, the non-Shadow Dancer Shinobi games, and games like those. They're pretty hard to come by now.
Thanks
Coming soon to XBLA and PSN (and the Virtual Console, which already has the middle game), Wonderboy In Monster World collection!
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If you don't know what they are, well they're action platformers. The series is very diverse since it originally started as Wonder Boy (the original version of Adventure Island) and has spread to be arcade style action RPGs, metroidvanias, and just plain awesome platformers. This is honestly the most underrated series from the 16-bit generation and if you don't have these on the VC, this is your best chance to own them.
:) I've heard good things about this series.
Jet Set Radio HD's tracklist:
Original songs by Hideki Naganuma
Grace and Glory
Humming the Bassline
Let Mom Sleep
Moody's Shuffle
Rock It On
Sneakman
Sweet Soul Brother
That's Enough
Licensed tracks
Toronto - Electric Tooth Brush
Magical Girl - Guitar Vader
Super Brothers - Guitar Vader
Bout the City - Reps
Funky Radio - B.B. Rights
Mischievous Boy - Castle Logical
Yellow Bream - F-Fields
Everybody Jump Around - Richard Jacques
The loss of Deavid Soul (UPSET ATTACK!) really hurts, but the loss of Dragula makes up for it. I still think they should add in some Sonic Rush and Naganuma tunes from other games.
Here's something cute, a top 10 list of sequels from 1996 that EGM would like to see:
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Oh, the memories.
And the irony.
Saw that on GAF, it is pretty interesting.
I notice a severe lack of FPS games, too.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 23, 2012, 07:37:44 PM
I notice a severe lack of FPS games, too.
The genre was just getting started back in '96. Plus, EGM never paid attention to PC games at all and there weren't exactly a whole lot of FPS on consoles at the time.
Yeah, back then, all you really had that wasn't shit to control or a lame port of a PC game was GoldenEye, and EGM didn't start focusing on PC games until about a year before they stopped production. It's not too surprising at all, really.
Quote from: Foggle on March 23, 2012, 08:00:26 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 23, 2012, 07:37:44 PM
I notice a severe lack of FPS games, too.
The genre was just getting started back in '96. Plus, EGM never paid attention to PC games at all and there weren't exactly a whole lot of FPS on consoles at the time.
Ah, true. I forgot how early the genre was back then. Sure enough, I would imagine a DOOM II, Wolfenstein 3D II, and Duke Nukem 3D II down the road on a similar list.
But it's nice to see some variety.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 23, 2012, 08:04:02 PM
Duke Nukem 3D II
IF ONLY.
Gearbox better release a truly old-school Duke game to make up for convincing me to purchase that $50 block of buyer's remorse. I liked the game at the time, but I think I was just trying to justify my purchase. You can't blame me, can you?
The single-player DLC pack for it was actually rather good, though. As was the Duke Burger level.
I thought it was alright, but yeah, Duke Burger was the best part of the game. I'd imagine if they made a new one they would look into what worked and didn't work and make a game accordingly.
Worms 2 was great. I'm really glad that was made.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 23, 2012, 08:16:35 PM
I thought it was alright, but yeah, Duke Burger was the best part of the game. I'd imagine if they made a new one they would look into what worked and didn't work and make a game accordingly.
The DLC was far, far better than the main game. Easily the best possible thing that could have been developed on that godawful engine. I have faith that the next Duke Nukem game will actually be good.
QuoteWorms 2 was great. I'm really glad that was made.
Hell yes it was. So was Tekken 3, which is by far the best in the series.
Weird DLC retro compilation from Sega (http://segabits.com/blog/2012/03/23/xbla-monster-world-and-alex-kidd-vintage-collections-revealed/)
It includes:
Alex Kidd In Miracle World (Master System)
Revenge Of Shinobi (Genesis)
Super Hang-On (Possibly Arcade?)
Add this to the Monster World collection and Sega is now in the lead with retro releases. The first two are already on the Virtual Console, but this is still a good release.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 23, 2012, 07:24:32 PM
Here's something cute, a top 10 list of sequels from 1996 that EGM would like to see:
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWNsfh.jpg&hash=76e531d42bc969fbd2ae6adeb896cc908ecdefa6)
Metroid 64 :shit:
Damn, what a shame. Although it probably would have been horribly dated 5-10 years down the road, it'd still be nice to have. They
were apparently working on it as well. Too bad.
Hopefully they would have had it be Super Metroid 2.0 instead of Prime 0.2
Probably would have played something like Other M.
Quote from: Rynnec on March 25, 2012, 08:10:54 PM
Probably would have played something like Other M.
I was thinking the same. Probably slower and not as good graphically, and probably less story, but I'd say it would be something like that.
So at the flea market, I went in to trade some stuff, including my KOTH and Futurama DVDs, and while looking through the DVDs, games and comics at my usual place, I didn't find much that interested me. Until I saw a SNES for $45. I hit that up along with a Criterion copy of The Life Aquatic.
It came with 2 controllers and a free game, which choosing from the multiple cheap games they had (anything under glass cases was off-limits, although honestly, the only game there that I recalled that I'd want is Star Fox) I went with Goof Troop. After I play some of my old copy of Super Mario All-Stars, I'll plow through that.
$45 seems like a lot for a SNES. I remember seeing them for about 30 bucks before.
Eh, I guess, but since I didn't have to spend any of my own money, I don't really mind.
GOG is giving out Fallout 1 for free today, I signed up just for it and got about 7 free games just for doing that.
So cool.
Quote from: Comeau on April 06, 2012, 03:26:32 PM
$45 seems like a lot for a SNES. I remember seeing them for about 30 bucks before.
In my experience, that's pretty average. Of course, if you
don't want one that looks like this...
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.vintagecomputing.com%2Fwp-content%2Fimages%2Fsnes_plastic%2Fsnes_plastic_1_small.jpg&hash=df42a3e93a78638dac8e851eef0fae2bbdae39bb)
...they can usually cost a lot more. Finding an SNES in good condition these days, for cheap, isn't exactly the easiest task in the world.
Speaking of which, how's the condition of the one you bought, Avaitor? Is it still grey, or has the yellowing process already begun?
It's in pretty good quality. I don't notice any yellow or brown on it.
Oh, something I want to ask Desen when he comes on, is the Bonkers game any good? They had that too, but I honestly didn't even know that they made one, which is why I went with Goof Troop instead.
See my SNES never turned yellow, and I've had it since '91. I don't know if it's certain builds or what, but not a hint of yellow on mine.
On the flip side of dla though I found a Dreamcast. Only 18 bucks too; with two controllers a copy of Soul Caliber and a VMU the total came out to 32 bucks.
Quote from: Comeau on April 06, 2012, 06:53:16 PM
See my SNES never turned yellow, and I've had it since '91. I don't know if it's certain builds or what, but not a hint of yellow on mine.
On the flip side of dla though I found a Dreamcast. Only 18 bucks too; with two controllers a copy of Soul Caliber and a VMU the total came out to 32 bucks.
Out of curiosity, was it with, or without a box?
The DC? Without.
Actually the only consoles I have the boxes to are my Wii(at home) and my PS3(in storage). But then again I'm not to worried about the boxes, because while they look cool the simple fact is they take up space.
I've been hitting up my local Play N Trade lately and getting some retro games. Some games are pretty bad but I got them anyway. Some are games I used to have but traded in/lost/lent to someone and never got them back and I wanted them again.
NES:
Batman
Bionic Commando
SNES:
Bubsy
Daffy Duck: The Marvin Missions
F-Zero
Muai Mallard in Cold Shadow
Animaniacs
Genesis:
Quackshot Starring Donald Duck
N64:
NFL Blitz (not a sports fan but I hear this game is fun even if you don't like football)
I also ordered a Genesis to SNES converter that actually allows you to play Genesis games on the SNES. I have a Genesis stored away somewhere but I honestly don't know where and even if I did I have nowhere to put it. This makes things easier and, supposedly, it works very well (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImbjolkfhKY).
Quote from: Eddy on April 06, 2012, 07:26:30 PM
I've been hitting up my local Play N Trade lately and getting some retro games. Some games are pretty bad but I got them anyway. Some are games I used to have but traded in/lost/lent to someone and never got them back and I wanted them again.
NES:
Batman
Bionic Commando
SNES:
Bubsy
Daffy Duck: The Marvin Missions
F-Zero
Muai Mallard in Cold Shadow
Animaniacs
Genesis:
Quackshot Starring Donald Duck
N64:
NFL Blitz (not a sports fan but I hear this game is fun even if you don't like football)
I also ordered a Genesis to SNES converter that actually allows you to play Genesis games on the SNES. I have a Genesis stored away somewhere but I honestly don't know where and even if I did I have nowhere to put it. This makes things easier and, supposedly, it works very well (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ImbjolkfhKY).
Nice haul. And yeah, NFL Blitz was a ton of fun, me and my friend used to play a ton of it back on the PS1. We never really liked Sports games, but stuff like that, NBA Jam, Mutant League, Road Rash... EA was good at taking sports and really mking them something different a while back.
Quote from: Avaitor on April 06, 2012, 06:15:52 PM
It's in pretty good quality. I don't notice any yellow or brown on it.
Oh, something I want to ask Desen when he comes on, is the Bonkers game any good? They had that too, but I honestly didn't even know that they made one, which is why I went with Goof Troop instead.
I haven't played the Bonkers game for either the Genesis or the SNES, but I hear that the SNES one is a good platformer while the Genesis one is a bad minigame-fest. TDA shows didn't really do so hot on the Genesis, unfortunately.
I see. I'll have to go back for that, then.
Ah, SMB3 really is a perfect game. Still loving it.
So I came across this site that compiles lists of the top ten games to play today on retro consoles. They try to not let nostalgia come into play and select the games they feel hold up. For the most part they're pretty good, I think.
NES: (http://www.snackbar-games.com/features/best-to-play-now/what-are-the-ten-best-nes-games-to-play-now/)
- Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!
- Mega Man 2
- River City Ransom
- Kirby's Adventure
- Super Mario Bros. 3
- Ninja Gaiden 2
- Bionic Commando
- Startropics
- Metal Storm
- Castlevania
Can't really argue with this list. Though I personally prefer Mega Man 3 over Mega Man 2 but they're both great games. I probably would have found a place for DuckTales as well.
Genesis: (http://www.snackbar-games.com/features/what-are-the-ten-best-genesis-games-to-play-now/)
- Pulseman
- Ristar
- Gunstar Heroes
- Aladdin
- Dynamite Headdy
- Phantasy Star IV
- Castlevania Bloodlines
- World of Illusion
- Contra: Hard Corps
- The Lost Vikings
Having not grown up with the Genesis I can't really comment on most of this list but I find it baffling that they left off Sonic 3 & Knuckles.
Game Boy: (http://www.snackbar-games.com/features/what-are-the-ten-best-game-boy-games-to-play-now/)
- Link's Awakening DX
- Gargoyle's Quest
- Tetris
- Wario Land 3
- Donkey Kong
- Mario Golf
- Final Fantasy Legend
- Shantae
- Metroid II: Return of Samus
- Revenge of the Gator
I'll admit I haven't played most of these games. While I did have a Game Boy growing up we didn't get too many games for it. That said I would have included Super Mario Land, because I still think it holds up well today, and Super Mario Bros. DX.
PlayStation: (http://www.snackbar-games.com/features/what-are-the-ten-best-playstation-games-to-play-now/)
- Symphony of the Night
- Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee
- Parappa the Rapper
- Front Mission 3
- Suikoden 2
- Final Fantasy VII
- Klonoa
- Brave Fencer Musashi
- Street Fighter Alpha 3
- Heart of Darkness
Like I said with the Genesis, I was a Nintendo kid so we never had PlayStation. So I've actually never played any of these games (at least not enough). I have played Um Jammer Lammy and Parappa the Rapper 2 though so I assume Parappa is deserving. I'd say a Resident Evil title is worthy of being on there too.
SNES: (http://www.snackbar-games.com/features/what-are-the-ten-best-snes-games-to-play-now/)
- Kirby Super Star
- Super Metroid
- Yoshi's Island
- Zelda: Link to the Past
- Super Mario World
- Mega Man X
- NBA Jam
- Super Mario RPG
- Cold Shadow
- Chrono Trigger
Now this list I have a hard time finding a problem with. I've never played NBA Jam or Chrono Trigger but I've heard enough about them to make be believe they have a spot here. But I probably would have included Donkey Kong Country 2 over Cold Shadow.
N64: (http://www.snackbar-games.com/features/what-are-the-best-n64-games-to-play-now/)
- Paper Mario
- Majora's Mask
- Sin & Punishment
- Super Smash Bros.
- Kirby 64
- Star Fox 64
- Banjo-Kazooie
- Pokemon Snap
For some reason this list only has eight. Not a bad list though, I have to say. Each of those games are pretty great in their own way (yes, I also like Pokemon Snap). I'm also glad to see Kazooie acknowledged over Tooie. Since it's missing two games to make it ten I'll throw in a couple choices: Harvest Moon 64 and Conker's Bad Fur Day.
Dreamcast: (http://www.snackbar-games.com/features/best-to-play-now/what-are-the-10-best-dreamcast-games-to-play-now/)
- Chu Chu Rocket
- Soul Calibur
- Space Channel 5
- Skies of Arcadia
- Ikaruga
- Power Stone 2
- Rez
- Armada
- Samba De Amigo
- Street Fighter III: Third Strike
I never had a Dreamcast either so most of these games have never been played by me. I have played Third Strike though and I think I'd say it's my favorite Street Fighter game. So mention of Sonic Adventure, though? I guess some people don't feel it holds up.
GBA: (http://www.snackbar-games.com/features/best-to-play-now/what-are-the-ten-best-gba-games-to-play-now/)
- Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga
- Astro Boy: Omega Factor
- Advance Wars 2
- Metroid Fusion
- Final Fantasy VI Advance
- Zelda: The Minish Cap
- Riviera: The Promised Land
- Drill Dozer
- Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
- Castlevania: Aria of Shadow
While I haven't played every game on this list (like Astro Boy and Drill Dozer) I have heard good things about them. I wasn't a fan of FF Tactics Advance though so I doubt I would have included that. I probably would have found a spot for Pokemon FireRed and Sonic Advance 2.
Those are pretty good lists, and I actually have quite a few of those games. I'm kind of glad they left off the Pokemon games, because while they are good, I get kind of annoyed when people focus on them, there's so many more GB games that are also worth playing.
Don't like the amount of Final Fantasy games there though. Something about them drives me away from ever really giving them a chance.
I've got to give them props on their Dreamcast list for including Power Stone 2. I couldn't agree more myself, and I feel that the game doesn't get as much appreciation as it deserves, even among other DC games.
As for Sonic, I can understand them not including either of the Adventure games for the DC list, but I must admit that I'm quite baffled at the exclusion of ANY Sonic titles at all in even the Genesis list. That just doesn't seem right to me. I also would have liked to see Rocket Knight Advenutres on the Genesis list as well. As for their N64 list, I would have included Ocarina of Time and No Mercy, myself, but those are more just my personal tastes I suppose.
Oh, and I couldn't agree more with including NG2 on the NES list. Its easily the best 2D NG game by far. ;)
They also get props from me for including Yoshi's Island in the SNES list. It totally deserves to be there, but for some reason a lot of top 10 lists for SNES games that I've seen leave games like Yoshi's Island completely out of the picture, and IMO its easily one of the best gaming experiences available on that console and should not be missed by anyone who owns an SNES.
Yeah, I wanna know why there's no Sonic games on here. Did Vekou make these lists or something?
These are pretty solid lists despite the lack of Sonic. I personally like that Majora's Mask made it on the N64 list over OOT. I also like that FFTA made the GBA list, since it is easily one of the best Final Fantasy games out there.
Cool list. Some nitpicks/omissions.
Quote from: Eddy on April 07, 2012, 07:20:58 PM
So I came across this site that compiles lists of the top ten games to play today on retro consoles. They try to not let nostalgia come into play and select the games they feel hold up. For the most part they're pretty good, I think.
NES: (http://www.snackbar-games.com/features/best-to-play-now/what-are-the-ten-best-nes-games-to-play-now/)
- Mike Tyson's Punch-Out!!
- Mega Man 2
- River City Ransom
- Kirby's Adventure
- Super Mario Bros. 3
- Ninja Gaiden 2
- Bionic Commando
- Startropics
- Metal Storm
- Castlevania
Can't really argue with this list. Though I personally prefer Mega Man 3 over Mega Man 2 but they're both great games. I probably would have found a place for DuckTales as well.
Castlevania? At least they could have picked 3. Rockin' Katz is way better than Bionic Commando with swinging, and even has a jump button on top of it.
QuoteGenesis: (http://www.snackbar-games.com/features/what-are-the-ten-best-genesis-games-to-play-now/)
- Pulseman
- Ristar
- Gunstar Heroes
- Aladdin
- Dynamite Headdy
- Phantasy Star IV
- Castlevania Bloodlines
- World of Illusion
- Contra: Hard Corps
- The Lost Vikings
Having not grown up with the Genesis I can't really comment on most of this list but I find it baffling that they left off Sonic 3 & Knuckles.
Random Sonic bias. You can't own a Genesis without a Sonic game. You also can't purchase Pulseman, it was Sega Channel only back in the day.
QuoteGame Boy: (http://www.snackbar-games.com/features/what-are-the-ten-best-game-boy-games-to-play-now/)
- Link's Awakening DX
- Gargoyle's Quest
- Tetris
- Wario Land 3
- Donkey Kong
- Mario Golf
- Final Fantasy Legend
- Shantae
- Metroid II: Return of Samus
- Revenge of the Gator
I'll admit I haven't played most of these games. While I did have a Game Boy growing up we didn't get too many games for it. That said I would have included Super Mario Land, because I still think it holds up well today, and Super Mario Bros. DX.
Good list! I would replace FFL with Adventure (Secret Of Mana's prequel), Wario Land 3 with 2, and Metroid II (which hasn't aged well at all) with Operation C.
QuotePlayStation: (http://www.snackbar-games.com/features/what-are-the-ten-best-playstation-games-to-play-now/)
- Symphony of the Night
- Oddworld: Abe's Oddysee
- Parappa the Rapper
- Front Mission 3
- Suikoden 2
- Final Fantasy VII
- Klonoa
- Brave Fencer Musashi
- Street Fighter Alpha 3
- Heart of Darkness
Like I said with the Genesis, I was a Nintendo kid so we never had PlayStation. So I've actually never played any of these games (at least not enough). I have played Um Jammer Lammy and Parappa the Rapper 2 though so I assume Parappa is deserving. I'd say a Resident Evil title is worthy of being on there too.
Heart Of Darkness is SO HARD. As you all know, Brave Fencer Musashi is my all time favorite Square game, so it's well deserving. I'd take out Front Mission 3 for Tomba!, though.
QuoteSNES: (http://www.snackbar-games.com/features/what-are-the-ten-best-snes-games-to-play-now/)
- Kirby Super Star
- Super Metroid
- Yoshi's Island
- Zelda: Link to the Past
- Super Mario World
- Mega Man X
- NBA Jam
- Super Mario RPG
- Cold Shadow
- Chrono Trigger
Now this list I have a hard time finding a problem with. I've never played NBA Jam or Chrono Trigger but I've heard enough about them to make be believe they have a spot here. But I probably would have included Donkey Kong Country 2 over Cold Shadow.
Great, and I agree with you.
QuoteN64: (http://www.snackbar-games.com/features/what-are-the-best-n64-games-to-play-now/)
- Paper Mario
- Majora's Mask
- Sin & Punishment
- Super Smash Bros.
- Kirby 64
- Star Fox 64
- Banjo-Kazooie
- Pokemon Snap
For some reason this list only has eight. Not a bad list though, I have to say. Each of those games are pretty great in their own way (yes, I also like Pokemon Snap). I'm also glad to see Kazooie acknowledged over Tooie. Since it's missing two games to make it ten I'll throw in a couple choices: Harvest Moon 64 and Conker's Bad Fur Day.
Solid list. I'd replace Snap with Goemon's Great Adventure, but the rest are the best on the system.
QuoteDreamcast: (http://www.snackbar-games.com/features/best-to-play-now/what-are-the-10-best-dreamcast-games-to-play-now/)
- Chu Chu Rocket
- Soul Calibur
- Space Channel 5
- Skies of Arcadia
- Ikaruga
- Power Stone 2
- Rez
- Armada
- Samba De Amigo
- Street Fighter III: Third Strike
I never had a Dreamcast either so most of these games have never been played by me. I have played Third Strike though and I think I'd say it's my favorite Street Fighter game. So mention of Sonic Adventure, though? I guess some people don't feel it holds up.
I can't argue with that. But Sonic Adventure 1 has aged better than Space Channel 5. And Jet Grind Radio needs a spot.
QuoteGBA: (http://www.snackbar-games.com/features/best-to-play-now/what-are-the-ten-best-gba-games-to-play-now/)
- Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga
- Astro Boy: Omega Factor
- Advance Wars 2
- Metroid Fusion
- Final Fantasy VI Advance
- Zelda: The Minish Cap
- Riviera: The Promised Land
- Drill Dozer
- Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
- Castlevania: Aria of Shadow
While I haven't played every game on this list (like Astro Boy and Drill Dozer) I have heard good things about them. I wasn't a fan of FF Tactics Advance though so I doubt I would have included that. I probably would have found a spot for Pokemon FireRed and Sonic Advance 2.
Take of Tactics and throw in Wario Land 4, and it's well balanced.
Well compiled, but come on, no Sonic games at all?
Quote from: Comeau on April 07, 2012, 07:36:15 PMDon't like the amount of Final Fantasy games there though. Something about them drives me away from ever really giving them a chance.
Have you played Final Fantasy VI? (Which was called 3 back in the day)
If you can't get into that one, the series definitely isn't for you. It's pretty much the only game the highly divisive fan-base can agree is a good game.
I could never get into Final Fantasy either. I've tried playing a few games in the series too. It's just not my thing.
I can only think there's no Sonic on the list because it was too obvious or something. But, on the other hand, they have other obvious games like Mario World. So who knows? At the very least Sonic 3 & Knuckles should have been on there.
And come to think of it, EarthBound would have been good on the SNES list too. But the list was overall so good I can let it slide. But since they allowed Japan-only games on the lists (what with Pulseman and Sin & Punishment) they should have included Mother 3 on the GBA list. Game is a masterpiece and I don't normally play RPGs.
Ah sweet, Astro Boy and Contra Hard Corps were listed.
Got one more retro game today adding Mega Man X to my collection.
Half of those Genesis games I've never even played. Granted, while I had a Genesis growing up, I was always more of a Nintendo kid, so other than Sonic (and maybe Mutant League Football or other random assortments), we didn't really use it all that often. Even now, my Genesis collection is very sparse.
I guess I should look into some of these if I can. Any recommendations?
I strongly recommend Contra Hard Corps, Castlevania Bloodlines, Phantasy Star IV and Gunstar Heroes. Two of them are actually the favorite of mine in their respective genres.
Rocket Knight Adventures, Ristar, and Shinobi III, for sure.
Also, every Donald Duck and Mickey Mouse game other than Fantasia is excellent.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 10, 2012, 03:39:14 PM
Rocket Knight Adventures, Ristar, and Shinobi III, for sure.
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 10, 2012, 12:29:11 PM
Contra Hard Corps, Castlevania Bloodlines, Phantasy Star IV and Gunstar Heroes.
These, Comix Zone, Mega Turrican, and Shadowrun.
DUH. How could I forget Ranger-X? Look into that one and be amazed.
Also, I think you might get a kick out of E-Swat. It's not amazing or anything, but it's a Sega shooter, so you know it's good times.
Some of these I actually do already have (Gunstar Heroes, Ristar, Comix Zone), but other than GH, I haven't played most of them in years. Time to fix that.
Looks like I still have a lot of catching up to do otherwise, though. I really do need to pay more attention to this system. When I go into town later this week, I'll check to see if the retro game store I go to sometimes has any of these (usually they have a pretty good Genesis selection, and a lot of them come with cases as well, so that's a plus).
Yeah, the Genesis is really a brilliant system. Sega tried so hard with it, and really fought Nintendo tooth and nail to the point where they really brought out the best in each other. I'm usually stunned these days by how many people scream about the SNES being the best system ever and the peak of gaming and how lame it's gotten... yet they've never played a Genesis. Just weird.
Oh yeah, also get Rolling Thunder 2 and 3.
I also recommend Crusader Of Centy (beautiful Zelda ripoff), Vectorman 1 and 2, whatever Splatterhouse is on the console and Beyond Oasis ('nother Zelda ripoff)
Stupid question, but is $10 for F-Zero worth it?
SNES F-Zero? I'd say you're better off getting it 2 dollars cheaper on the Virtual Console.
Yep, that one. And I dunno, in some cases I might just stick with the VC, but you can't top playing a SNES game with the original controller as god intended.
I'm just surprised that I found it for that cheap at Gorilla Games, considering how they jack up a lot of their prices.
Quote from: Avaitor on April 12, 2012, 12:48:14 PM
Stupid question, but is $10 for F-Zero worth it?
Avaitor, get the hell out of my site.
I think that's paying too much for F-Zero. I just got it at Play N Trade for $2.99.
No local Play N Trade here, sadly
Quote from: Avaitor on April 12, 2012, 12:48:14 PM
Stupid question, but is $10 for F-Zero worth it?
Does it come with a box?
You can buy sealed boxed copies on Amazon for roughly the same price ($8-$10). I mean, you might as well go that route, if you plan on paying that much.
...otherwise, I'd just stick with a $6 used copy. If you're not a fan of Amazon, though... I dunno. You should be able to find it in any indie game store for around that price, but if not, then online shopping is probably your best bet.
So, I decided to try and play some of the original Mega Man, the other day, as I honestly have never really sat down to play more than 5 minutes of it at any point in my life time, and even that was years ago when a friend of mine brought over the PS2 MM collection that featured most of the old games. I know that the first game probably doesn't hold a candle to MM2 or 3, but for what it was, I liked what I played of it. I played through Cut Man's stage, and it was sufficiently challenging without really feeling cheap, and the music was at least decent (nothing on the level of a great MM2, 3, or 9 track, though). I think I'll play through the rest of the stages at some point in time when I get another chance to go through the game.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on April 12, 2012, 11:06:13 PM
So, I decided to try and play some of the original Mega Man, the other day, as I honestly have never really sat down to play more than 5 minutes of it at any point in my life time, and even that was years ago when a friend of mine brought over the PS2 MM collection that featured most of the old games. I know that the first game probably doesn't hold a candle to MM2 or 3, but for what it was, I liked what I played of it. I played through Cut Man's stage, and it was sufficiently challenging without really feeling cheap, and the music was at least decent (nothing on the level of a great MM2, 3, or 9 track, though). I think I'll play through the rest of the stages at some point in time when I get another chance to go through the game.
Mega Man 1 is a good game. It's a bit rough and unpolished in places (Fire Man is a pretty cheap boss), but it was completely new and original at the time and is the only game in the series to have a point system, no passwords, no hitstun, and the legendary pause trick.
I actually like the game a lot and think it's almost on par with 2 and 3 (and 9). It's just the tiny things that 2 polished up that hold it back.
EDIT: Darkwing Duck is also a pretty good Mega Man-style game. Give that a go if you feel like it sometime.
The original Mega Man is amazing. Far better than 4-8 IMO.
Yeah, the game certainly has its flaws but its still easy to see why it became a hit in its day. Its an incredibly simple yet incredible fun game, and it has a good amount of challenge to it (even if its not always fair) that keeps it interesting to play. Its an important part of gaming history but its also still a great game in its own right, IMO. In fact, its saying a lot that the only thing really holding it back isn't so much what it does wrong, but rather how much its sequels get right. The first game already set up an incredibly fun and addicting gameplay formula, and the 2nd and 3rd games in the series pretty much perfected that, making the rough edges of the first game stand out a little bit more, but even with those rough edges clearly showing on the surface of this game, what worked about it back when it came out still works today, and it works REALLY well in that regard. ;)
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on April 12, 2012, 11:06:13 PM
So, I decided to try and play some of the original Mega Man, the other day, as I honestly have never really sat down to play more than 5 minutes of it at any point in my life time, and even that was years ago when a friend of mine brought over the PS2 MM collection that featured most of the old games. I know that the first game probably doesn't hold a candle to MM2 or 3, but for what it was, I liked what I played of it. I played through Cut Man's stage, and it was sufficiently challenging without really feeling cheap, and the music was at least decent (nothing on the level of a great MM2, 3, or 9 track, though). I think I'll play through the rest of the stages at some point in time when I get another chance to go through the game.
Except for a few things, Mega Man 1 isn't outdated. It's just that a few of its sequels are so much better. It's still a great game itself.
You can currently get Earthworm Jim 1&2 for $3 total on GOG.
WHAT ARE YOU WAITING FOR? :zonk:
Not that I can get 'em either way, but which versions?
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 14, 2012, 03:36:31 PM
Not that I can get 'em either way, but which versions?
PC ports of the Genesis Special Editions. Apparently they run really well. EJ 2 is missing Lorenzen's Soil, though, for some reason.
The local video game store where I got my two boxed Simpsons games for cheap has an excellent copy of Majora's Mask with box for $60(obviously not the special edition, or the price would be much higher). I didn't pick it up, but I'm seriously considering it, the only thing that's keeping me away is I can find ways to play the game for much cheaper. So, what do y'all think I should do? It's a cool item, but I don't know just how badly I want it.
Lorenzen's Soil is my favorite level of Earthworm Jim 2 if only for the music.
Quote from: Comeau on April 14, 2012, 04:27:05 PM
The local video game store where I got my two boxed Simpsons games for cheap has an excellent copy of Majora's Mask with box for $60(obviously not the special edition, or the price would be much higher). I didn't pick it up, but I'm seriously considering it, the only thing that's keeping me away is I can find ways to play the game for much cheaper. So, what do y'all think I should do? It's a cool item, but I don't know just how badly I want it.
Boxes are nice.
Is it sealed, though? If it's sealed, I'd definitely go for it, but otherwise... eh.
So, I know the GameCube doesn't really qualify as "retro" but I was looking for some good, affordable suggestions of GameCube games. See, the shelf where I keep my GameCube games has enough space for about three more games and I feel the need to fill that spot up.
For the record here are the GameCube games I have:
Alien Hominid
Animal Crossing
Capcom vs. SNK 2 EO
Dance Dance Revolution Mario Mix
Donkey Konga
Eternal Darkness
F-Zero GX
Harvest Moon: A Wonderful Life
Harvest Moon: Magical Melody
Killer7
Kirby Air Ride
Legend of Zelda Collector's Edition
Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker
Luigi's Mansion
Mario Golf: Toadstool Tour
Mario Kart: Double-Dash!!
Mario Party 5
Mario Party 6
Mario Power Tennis
Mega Man Anniversary Collection
Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes
Metroid Prime
Pac-Man World 2
Paper Mario: The Thousand-Year Door
Phantasy Star Online Episode 1 and 2
Pikmin
Resident Evil Zero
Resident Evil
Resident Evil 2
Resident Evil 3
Resident Evil Code: Veronica X
Resident Evil 4
The Simpsons: Road Rage
Sonic Mega Collection
Sonic Gems Collection
Sonic Adventure DX
Sonic Adventure 2 Battle
Sonic Heroes
Soul Calibur II
Star Fox Adventures
Super Mario Sunshine
Super Smash Bros. Melee
Viewtiful Joe
Viewtiful Joe 2
Wave Race: Blue Storm
My local Play N Trade has Billy Hatcher for about $5. I've been thinking of grabbing that. I think they also have all three of the TMNT games. My friend tells me Mutant Nightmare is good.
Nice, the non-HD version of Alien Hominid. I miss the PDA level editor from my old PS2 copy. :(
Fire Emblem Path of Radiance and Gotcha Force are required for a good GameCube library. I'd recommend Donkey Kong Jungle Beat but the Wii port is the superior version. Also, you have the first Pikmin but not the sequel? I'd tell you to track it down but its got some stupid high after market price for some reason.
I recall PN03 being fairly awesome. It's Mikami, so you know it's good.
DK Jungle Beat
Metroid Prime 2
Star Fox Assault (take it or leave it, at least it's cheap)
Super Monkey Ball 2
I'd also suggest Pikmin 2, but... well, that's not cheap. I dunno, I might have more for you later; kinda tired right now though.
Oh yeah, PN03 is one I should keep an eye out for. Yeah, I'd like Pikmin 2 but for some reason it's ridiculously expensive for a used GameCube game (when I see it at GameStop it's around $40). Truthfully, I mainly got Pikmin to complete my trophy collection in Melee. Jungle Beat might be good. I've never played a Fire Emblem game so maybe I should grab Path of Radiance.
I used to have Star Fox Assult but kind of hated it.
Star Fox Assault sucks except for the Arwing levels.
Super Monkey Ball 1 & 2
Timesplitters 2 and Future Perfect (if you don't have the PS2/xbox ones)
Billy Hatcher is decent pick up. I still have to get myself a copy. But as far as Gamecube goes, that's pretty much it aside from what everyone else listed.
Quote from: Eddy on April 15, 2012, 02:21:24 AM
I used to have Star Fox Assult but kind of hated it.
Quote from: Foggle on April 15, 2012, 10:42:22 AM
Star Fox Assault sucks except for the Arwing levels.
Yeah, it's really not that good at all, but I figured I might as well mention it if only for the fact that it's cheap, and it's 1st party.
The Arwing levels are good, but everything else just feels like a half-baked clone of Star Fox Adventures, only without Rare's added touch sprinkled on top.
I love Adventures. It's a really fun Zelda clone with some great Arwing missions between worlds.
Quote from: Foggle on April 16, 2012, 06:30:46 PM
I love Adventures. It's a really fun Zelda clone with some great Arwing missions between worlds.
Oh, same here. Rare's take on the franchise was really a good one; too bad they never got a chance to handle a sequel.
I really liked Adventures when I first played it, but when I tried again, I got so bored that I didn't even make it to the second Arwing mission. It does hold a special place in my heart though, being my first Gamecube game and all.
I also haven't actually played Assault, aside from multiplayer.
How many N64 games do YOU own on this list? (http://youtu.be/Mg92_O2fkC0)
I guess this is as good a time as any to give my N64 collection! (This aren't in alphabetical order like most of my games so bare with me, they're kind of just in a random order)
Super Mario 64
The Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
Star Fox 64
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Harvest Moon 64
Perfect Dark
Super Smash Bros.
Mario Kart 64
Paper Mario
Banjo-Kazooie
Banjo-Tooie
Mario Tennis
South Park
South Park Rally
Mario Party
Mario Party 2
Yoshi's Story
Kirby 64
Rayman 2
Turok
Turok 2
Donkey Kong 64
Bomberman Hero
Body Harvest
Wave Race 64
Jet Force Gemini
Diddy Kong Racing
Star Wars Episode I Racer
Pokemon Stadium
Pokemon Snap
Hey You, Pikachu!
NFL Blitz
NFL Quarterback Club 98
Madden 99 (I have no idea what these last two are doing here...)
GameShark
GameShark Pro
These are the only games I still own:
Super Mario 64
Star Fox 64
Donkey Kong 64
Mario Party 3
I actually traded off my copy of Banjo-Kazooie to help pay for my SNES. I only did because it erased my files when I was in the middle of Grundy's trivia game. Which'll suck for whoever picks it up, hehe.
My N64 collection isn't that big, mainly because I have been waiting for Rare re-releases on XBLA (SIGH... still waiting) and instead waiting for VC releases.
Super Mario 64
The Legend Of Zelda: Ocarina of Time
The Legend Of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Star Fox 64
Conker's Bad Fur Day
Hybrid Heaven
GoldenEye 007
Perfect Dark
Super Smash Bros.
Mario Kart 64
Mischief Makers
Ogre Battle 64
Paper Mario
Blast Corps.
Mario Tennis
Mario Party 3
Turok
Turok 2
Turok 3
WCW/NWO World Tour
WCW/NWO Revenge
WWF No Mercy
Body Harvest
I would already own the Goemon games if I could ever find them for under $50. I also really want Beetle Adventure Racing and Diddy Kong Racing as I love non-traditional racers.
Rare has to get around to releasing their games on XBLA. I'd love a Conker's Bad Fur Day HD. (I prefer Bad Fur Day to Live & Reloaded)
Two winters ago my friend and I pulled out the N64 and played Conker's multiplayer.
It is still fully original and tons of fun. Why they ripped it out for the Xbox release I have no idea, but the N64 version is still superior despite blurrier graphics.
They probably changed the Multiplayer to cash in on Halo's popularity at the time.
I greatly prefer the shooting levels in the Xbox Conker to those of the original, but the majority of the game is definitely far better on the N64, especially the multiplayer.
Along with the Pete and Pete sets I mentioned, I also found a copy of Pokemon Stadium 2 for $10. I thought this game was quite rare, so I was kind of surprised to find it.
Yeah, most later-era N64 games are typically somewhat harder to find, aren't they? Banjo-Tooie always costs more than the original, Majora Mask also usually goes for more than OOT, and Paper Mario isn't too cheap either. If you can even find them.
I haven't even seen a copy of Pokemon Stadium 2 in years, which shows how hard it must be to find.
Quote from: Avaitor on April 22, 2012, 05:32:48 PM
I haven't even seen a copy of Pokemon Stadium 2 in years, which shows how hard it must be to find.
They have a copy at my local Play N Trade for like $15.
I figured it was harder to find simply because it came at a time when the Pokemon craze was dying down. Its the same reason Crystal is rather difficult to find.
Quote from: AvaitorI haven't even seen a copy of Pokemon Stadium 2 in years, which shows how hard it must be to find.
I saw a copy for it a few years back. Unfourtunately, since my Silver's internal battery ran out, I had no reason to purchase it.
If there's one thing I know it's that I wish I saved more boxes for my games. My parents always made me throw them out because they deemed them as taking up space and didn't get why I'd want to hold on to them. The only N64 games I still have the boxes for are Conker's Bad Fur Day, Perfect Dark, Paper Mario, Harvest Moon 64, Kirby 64, Banjo-Tooie, Jet Force Gemini, South Park, South Park Rally, and Hey You, Pikachu!
And South Park Rally and Hey You, Pikachu! are pretty shitty games. :whuh:
What the hell is Hey You, Pikachu?
Isn't that the one where you talk to your Pikachu or something? I never played it.
I hated every single N64 Pokemon game.
That's the one. I remember wanting Hey You, Pikachu so bad when it came out, but my mom refused to buy it since it was $80. A few months later, it was already marked down to half price at WalMart, so we bought it then in a rare moment that I'd get a video game on an occasion that wasn't related to my birthday or Christmas as a kid.
To this day, I still think that was too much for it.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 22, 2012, 09:17:34 PM
I hated every single N64 Pokemon game.
Even Snap?
But Stadium and Snap were awesome. Never played Stadium 2, so this'll be my chance for that.
Snap was incredibly disappointing and short. I just really didn't get the hype.
My favorite part of Stadium by far was the sushi-eating minigame. I wasn't crazy on the battles or playing the games on my TV, but I liked the minigames themselves.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 22, 2012, 09:27:53 PM
Snap was incredibly disappointing and short. I just really didn't get the hype.
Eh, yeah it was short, but I think that's kind of the point, it was supposed to be an arcade-like experience, like Star Fox.
Stadium was a shit-ton of fun. I have no idea what Desensitized is talking about. :srs:
As for Snap, I liked it when I was a kid, but that's a game I can admit is completely shallow and boring when I look back on it. Aside from nostalgia, it doesn't really have too much value to it, IMO.
Never liked Snap, honestly. Stadium is awesome, though... so many fun times in multiplayer with bros. And playing the Game Boy games on my TV was amazing.
I have a bit of strong nostalgia for Snap since it was my first N64 game. It's not exactly a masterpiece, sure, but it's at least worth the $10 on the VC IMO.
Playing the Game Boy games on the TV wasn't that big of a deal though, since I could already do that with my Super Game Boy, although the Dodrio mode made playing the games a bit easier, since it sped them up.
I never got into the Stadium style game because I just didn't get the appeal. I mean, I get the appeal, but it's really not what I wanted.
Most Pokemon spinoffs in general come just short of being in-depth enough for me. Which is a shame because the series has loads of potential for anything.
You know what we need? Pokemon Channel 2. :blush:
Quote from: Avaitor on April 22, 2012, 09:54:44 PM
You know what we need? Pokemon Channel 2. :blush:
Fuck. No. Pokemon Channel is quite possibly the most worthless "game" ever created.
I don't even know what Pokemon Channel is. Aside from Snap and Stadium, I think the only spinoff Pokemon games I like are Pinball and Puzzle League/Puzzle Challenge. I kind of wanted to try Trozei! as well.
Oh yeah, and the Trading Card Game(the Game Boy game, not the actual trading card game).
Oh yes, Pokemon Pinball was great.
My friend really likes the music in the game. Specifically the music for the Meowth mini game.
I finally played a bit of Puzzle League at my friend's dorm a couple of months ago and really enjoyed it. Gorilla Games has it for like $6 or $7, so I should probably get that already.
Whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa... whoa... whoa.. WHOA! What I am getting from this is that none of you ever played Pokemon Ranger? Are you serious? I mean I can understand not playing Mystery Dungeon, while the story is great in PMD, the gameplay drags on. Maybe it's because I'm not a fan of Dungeon Crawlers. But Ranger was one game that used the DS fully and I enjoyed the mechanics put into it.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 22, 2012, 09:53:39 PM
I never got into the Stadium style game because I just didn't get the appeal. I mean, I get the appeal, but it's really not what I wanted.
Well, there's not much to really get, really. It essentially takes Pokemon to its essentials: the battles. That's the main reason I play Pokemon, anyways. I liked stadium because it allowed you to go through tons of different battles against really challenging trainers. That's my major problem with the actual gameboy games. The trainers were ridiculously easy in that game and offered up little to no challenge for you unless you were specifically doing a level handicap run. In Pokemon Stadium, all of the trainers were on the same level as you so it really allowed you to have fun and explore the depth and strategy of the combat system. I honestly wish there were more games like it, personally, or rather that the main games actually did feature trainers for you to compete with which were that challenging, later on in those games.
I wish long running series would have less spinoffs and more actual entries to the series. Didnn't Pokemon's hype die down because they took too long to give us a real game after Yellow? I remember I lost interest and Ididn;t even get to play Yellow until around the time Silver & Gold came out.
I think it was the gap between gen 2 and gen 3 that lost a lot of hype. It took a long time for something that didn't really take advantage of the GBA all that much like it should/could have.
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 22, 2012, 11:04:16 PM
I wish long running series would have less spinoffs and more actual entries to the series.
Crazy talk. Operation Raccoon City and Outbreak are obviously far better than any of the main series Resident Evil games.
I don't think the gap from Yellow to Gold and Silver was too bad. That was like what, a year? And I know that enough people were still playing catch up at that point that the wait wasn't a big deal at all.
I think the wait from Gold and Silver to Crystal or even Ruby and Sapphire did hurt the franchise more. But I think the fad really died down because... it was a fad. They just cool down in popularity after a year or two.
Quote from: Foggle on April 22, 2012, 11:12:35 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 22, 2012, 11:04:16 PM
I wish long running series would have less spinoffs and more actual entries to the series.
Crazy talk. Operation Raccoon City and Outbreak are obviously far better than any of the main series Resident Evil games.
My bad. I'll shall never speak again.
Pokemon Puzzle League is great. Even if it just Tetris Attack with a Pokemon theme.
And I really like Pokemon Snap, honestly. I find it to be a relaxing game. Just sit back and take photos of Pokemon. Plus, it was always fun triggering different things in stages to see what would make which Pokemon come out.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on April 22, 2012, 10:50:30 PM
That's my major problem with the actual gameboy games. The trainers were ridiculously easy in that game and offered up little to no challenge for you unless you were specifically doing a level handicap run. In Pokemon Stadium, all of the trainers were on the same level as you so it really allowed you to have fun and explore the depth and strategy of the combat system. I honestly wish there were more games like it, personally, or rather that the main games actually did feature trainers for you to compete with which were that challenging, later on in those games.
Yeah, I noticed this doing a run through of Yellow recently. The game starts off challenging when all you've got is Pikachu, who really isn't that good both offensively and defensively(given the fact he's a mouse) and of course has the disadvantage of having Brock as the first gym leader/the track through Mt. Moon, and you're pretty much forced to find a Pidgeotto in the Viridian Forest and start leveling it up quick. But once you get to Cerulean and you can get Charmander/Bulbasaur it gets easier. If you're just going though the game normally all the trainers you'll meet will almost always be at levels below you, and if you have a team like Pikachu/Pidgeotto/Dugtrio/Charizard/Blastoise/Venusaur(the team I had) you won't have any issues all the way through Giovanni. It's after that that you are forced to grind, because at that point all of your Pokemon should be somewhere in the 50s, but at those levels the Elite Four will wipe the floor with you. It's so strange the huge gap that lies between the latter game trainers/the last couple gym leaders and the Elite Four, you'd think Blaine and Giovanni would be tougher than they are.
Quote from: Foggle on April 22, 2012, 11:12:35 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 22, 2012, 11:04:16 PM
I wish long running series would have less spinoffs and more actual entries to the series.
Crazy talk. Operation Raccoon City and Outbreak are obviously far better than any of the main series Resident Evil games.
I don't know. Even those games can't compare to RE5's single player mode. I mean, just the fear and tension that comes from having a partner that's completely unresponsive and useless. Imagine how terrifying it would be to be in Chris Redfield's position, watching your only teammate waste all your gear before your very eyes.
Fear you can't forget.
Quote from: Comeau on April 23, 2012, 04:42:31 AM
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on April 22, 2012, 10:50:30 PM
That's my major problem with the actual gameboy games. The trainers were ridiculously easy in that game and offered up little to no challenge for you unless you were specifically doing a level handicap run. In Pokemon Stadium, all of the trainers were on the same level as you so it really allowed you to have fun and explore the depth and strategy of the combat system. I honestly wish there were more games like it, personally, or rather that the main games actually did feature trainers for you to compete with which were that challenging, later on in those games.
Yeah, I noticed this doing a run through of Yellow recently. The game starts off challenging when all you've got is Pikachu, who really isn't that good both offensively and defensively(given the fact he's a mouse) and of course has the disadvantage of having Brock as the first gym leader/the track through Mt. Moon, and you're pretty much forced to find a Pidgeotto in the Viridian Forest and start leveling it up quick. But once you get to Cerulean and you can get Charmander/Bulbasaur it gets easier. If you're just going though the game normally all the trainers you'll meet will almost always be at levels below you, and if you have a team like Pikachu/Pidgeotto/Dugtrio/Charizard/Blastoise/Venusaur(the team I had) you won't have any issues all the way through Giovanni. It's after that that you are forced to grind, because at that point all of your Pokemon should be somewhere in the 50s, but at those levels the Elite Four will wipe the floor with you. It's so strange the huge gap that lies between the latter game trainers/the last couple gym leaders and the Elite Four, you'd think Blaine and Giovanni would be tougher than they are.
That reminds me, the only time I've ever lost was against Giovanni who had that large Pokemon with a pouch, forget it's name and against my brother in a link match with our over level 100 Pokemon. I turned the game off right before Giovanni's pouch Pokemon completely gave me a game over, whether that was a game over screen or watching my Pokemon's HP completely drop to zero, but yeah, that still counts. :D
1,000 dollars for an unopened Wing Commander The Kilrathi Saga on Ebay.
CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT?!?!
:wth:
I didn't know it was that sought after.
Quote from: Lord Dalek on April 23, 2012, 02:41:26 PM
1,000 dollars for an unopened Wing Commander The Kilrathi Saga on Ebay.
CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT?!?!
Eh, that's nothing; check out the asking price for a new, unopened copy of Prima's A Link to the Past strategy guide on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0761541187/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new).
Quote from: Kiddington on April 23, 2012, 06:40:59 PM
Quote from: Lord Dalek on April 23, 2012, 02:41:26 PM
1,000 dollars for an unopened Wing Commander The Kilrathi Saga on Ebay.
CAN YOU BELIEVE THAT?!?!
Eh, that's nothing; check out the asking price for a new, unopened copy of Prima's A Link to the Past strategy guide on Amazon (http://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/0761541187/ref=dp_olp_new?ie=UTF8&condition=new).
Cannot comprehend. Brain... shutting... down.
:zonk:
Honestly, I still don't know what to think of that. Almost feels like an AFD joke that Amazon forgot to take down.
10 thousand dollars for a strategy guide. 10. Thousand. Dollars. For that much money, I could buy two NES World Championship cartridges... or a new car.
In pseudo-retro news, Pikmin 2 New Play Control is finally getting released in North America! Obviously this is to lead into the Pikmin 3 announcement. I've always wanted to try it as it apparently tops the original in every conceivable way including randomly generated maps, treasure hunts, and no more time limit.
In other news, gotta love old school hand holding:
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi0.kym-cdn.com%2Fphotos%2Fimages%2Foriginal%2F000%2F089%2F406%2FProtip.jpg%3F1318992465&hash=b88425e57d0a59d89f9bfc5f5a858c77255da370)
See, I'd run. :P
I welcome the NPC! Pikmin 2. Most of the New Play Control games are pointless but at least Pikmin 2 for the GameCube is rare and expensive so a NPC! version can be justified.
I went to Play N Trade today and grabbed three random N64 games I never played before. Wild Choppers, just because it was a Japanese game that was for some reason there (the game itself seems pretty bad with awkward controls), Forsaken 64, which I had no idea what it was but I took a gamble thinking it was a horror game judging by the mysterious label on it (spoilers: it isn't), and Mickey's Speedway USA (Diddy Kong Racing with Disney characters).
I always wanted to try Doom 64 since it's apparently an all-original game. Doom has to be one of the best franchises for shooters since almost every version of it short of the SNES and GBA versions and XBLA ports are fully original with brand new levels.
Seriously? Shit. Gonna' need to track down a copy one of these days...
My Play N Trade as a couple copies of Doom 64. Maybe I should pick one up.
Quote from: Foggle on April 24, 2012, 10:54:38 PM
Seriously? Shit. Gonna' need to track down a copy one of these days...
DOOM (PC/SNES/XBOX/PS3/360)
DOOM II (PC/XBOX/PS3/360)
DOOM (PS1/Saturn)
FINAL DOOM (PS1)
DOOM 64 (N64)
DOOM 3 (PC/XBOX)
A healthy series. Though I heard DOOM 64 is more horror-y than the other games. I'm not sure how true that is.
A would pay full price for a Wii-U compilation of every single game and level in the series remade into one game. With DOOM 3 as an extra.
Final Doom is also on PC, I believe. Also, don't forget Resurrection of Evil. Was that one ever released for Xbox?
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 24, 2012, 11:07:04 PM
Though I heard DOOM 64 is more horror-y than the other games. I'm not sure how true that is.
More horror than Doom 3? :huh:
Quote from: Foggle on April 24, 2012, 11:10:15 PM
Final Doom is also on PC, I believe. Also, don't forget Resurrection of Evil. Was that one ever released for Xbox?
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 24, 2012, 11:07:04 PM
Though I heard DOOM 64 is more horror-y than the other games. I'm not sure how true that is.
More horror than Doom 3? :huh:
Probably not that horror-y, remember this was an N64-era game.
I think there's a PC remake of DOOM 64 (not official though... if it matters) called DOOM 64 EX.
Cool! It's not done yet, though. (EDIT: Wait... yes it is. I think.) Reminds me of the Serious Sam: Next Encounter PC remake on the SSHD engine. :joy:
Oh my god Doom 64 EX is great. Graphics are awesome and extremely gloomy for an N64 game, level design is great too... but here's the best part:
Disable auto-aim
Enable mouse aiming
Enable crosshair
The game now plays like Quake/Painkiller/Serious Sam! So fucking awesome!
Explore those levels! That's always my favorite part of the DOOM games. the levels are always full of tricks and traps and cool scenery and enemy encounters.
I shall! Not tonight, though. If you turn around in the first room, you find a berserker power up. :SHOCK:
Just realized that you can add mouse aim to Doom 1 and 2 as well. Going to make things pretty interesting next time I play through them...
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 24, 2012, 11:59:13 PM
Explore those levels! That's always my favorite part of the DOOM games. the levels are always full of tricks and traps and cool scenery and enemy encounters.
Same here. Doom has always had the perfect kind of level design for shooters. It's amazingthey got it right so early.
Just beat the third level of Doom 64. Honestly, this might be the best game in the series. The level design is just excellent (legitimately creepy atmosphere, lots of secrets, ACTUAL PUZZLES) and the sprites still look good. Highly recommended.
Oh, and make sure you play on I Own Doom (Hard mode); Bring It On (Normal mode) is far too easy.
Soul Reaver is now available on GOG. It's $6. :joy:
Hope they get the rest of the series on there eventually.
....I wonder if that would run on my computer....
http://www.gog.com/en/gamecard/legacy_of_kain_soul_reaver
QuoteMinimum system requirements: Windows XP / Windows Vista / Windows 7, 1.8 GHz Processor, 512MB RAM (1 GB recommended), 3D graphics card compatible with DirectX 7 (compatible with DirectX 9 recommended), 2GB HDD, Mouse, Keyboard.
Sysreq is pretty close to Max Payne 2. I'm not sure how well Soul Reaver would play with a keyboard/mouse, though. Do you have a wired 360 controller? You can use it as a PC gamepad.
So Foggle is there any particular Virtual Console game you'd be interested in? I'd assume a game that you can't already get on Steam or via a compilation like New Adventure Island, Air Zonk, Zombies Ate My Neighbors, or the TG-16 version of Ys I & II.
Hmm... do they have Rocket Knight Adventures on there? I still need to play that game. :o
Quote from: Foggle on April 30, 2012, 11:18:51 PM
Hmm... do they have Rocket Knight Adventures on there? I still need to play that game. :o
No. I wish they did. :'(
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 30, 2012, 11:21:00 PM
Quote from: Foggle on April 30, 2012, 11:18:51 PM
Hmm... do they have Rocket Knight Adventures on there? I still need to play that game. :o
No. I wish they did. :'(
:cry:
How is that new Castlevania game on WiiWare?
Quote from: Foggle on April 30, 2012, 11:25:15 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 30, 2012, 11:21:00 PM
Quote from: Foggle on April 30, 2012, 11:18:51 PM
Hmm... do they have Rocket Knight Adventures on there? I still need to play that game. :o
No. I wish they did. :'(
:cry:
How is that new Castlevania game on WiiWare?
The Adventure Rebirth? If you like Castlevania IV, it's basically a sequel to that. The soundtrack is pretty awesome! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unfr_sa-TI0&feature=relmfu)
Those are my favorite Castlevania games, so I would totally recommend it.
Oh yeah, that music is sweet. It's been a long time since I've played Castlevania 4, so I'll hit that up again soon and get back to you. ;)
Hey Spark, what's your verdict on Harmony of Despair?
Quote from: Rynnec on April 30, 2012, 11:37:54 PM
Hey Spark, what's your verdict on Harmony of Despair?
I've only ever played two Metroidvanias- Circle Of The Moon and Symphony Of The Night! I never got around to any of the other ones because I have never heard a consensus on any of them. If anyone here has suggestions, let me know because I have no idea which ones are good past those two. (Which are great)
I was interested in Order Of Ecclesia though. It looked like a melting pot of Metroidvaia and classic Castlevania (only with a good jump like IV), and it was apparently pretty hard. Unfortunately, I can't find it anywhere.
Though I haven't beaten any of the Metroidvania's, from what I've played of them, I've probably enjoyed Aria of Sorrow the most. Portrait of Ruin was pretty good, but it apparently gets hard toward the end (and the method for unlocking the True Ending is also pretty hair pulling). Dawn of Sorrow is also pretty decent, though there are a couple of tacked on touchscreen segments (the most annoying being the seals you have to do to properly finish off a boss). Haven't played Harmony of Dissonance.
Harmony of Despair is more of an arcade-y sort of co-op game.
Those sound pretty cool. I'm not sure why I never got around to the other ones other than never seeing any consistent opinion on them. It's one of the few series Konami still does well with Contra.
I'm honestly hoping for a 3DS Castlevania to be announced soon. It's been a while since the last game.
Harmony Of Dissonance is decent. It's the first Castlevania I beat.
Super Hang On (Arcade version) was released on the Virtual Console today. This means we should be getting Monster World IV and arcade Monster Land soon. If anyone likes platformers, you should really look into them when they do.
I'm glad to see arcade games getting released again on there.
Confirmed! (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=472738)
May 10th, gentlemen. Get your points ready! ;D
Sega just released 10 more classic games on Steam:
Phantasy Star 2
Phantasy Star 3: Generations Of Doom
Phantasy Star 4: The End of the Millennium
Vectorman 2
Wonder Boy in Monster World
Revenge of the Shinobi
Streets Of Rage 3
Golden Axe 3
Beyond Oasis
Dynamite Headdy
They're $3 a pop. Which ones are worth picking up?
Phantasy Star II (great plot but a bit clunky)
Phantasy Star IV (THE GREATEST 16-BIT RPG OF ALL TIME FUCKYOUSQUARE)
Vectorman 2 (More of the same if you like Vectorman, a real if ain't broke don't fix it sequel)
Wonder Boy in Monster World (pretty good action rpg)
Revenge of Shinobi (HOLY CRAP ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?)
Beyond Oasis (really good action rpg)
Dynamite Headdy (its Treasure)
Quote from: Lord Dalek on May 05, 2012, 02:28:58 PM
Phantasy Star IV (THE GREATEST 16-BIT RPG OF ALL TIME FUCKYOUSQUARE)
Vectorman 2 (More of the same if you like Vectorman, a real if ain't broke don't fix it sequel)
Revenge of Shinobi (HOLY CRAP ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?)
I already know that I love these three. ;) Just wanted to post up the whole list for people to see.
Wolfenstein 3D is 20 years old today. And it's still a great game.
Time to celebrate the proper birth of the FPS genre!
Well, I certainly appreciate the game for really kick-starting the FPS genre. I know others have argued that there were technically FPS games before this, but they were either obscure or weren't true FPS in the way that we know them. Wolfenstein 3D was the first game that started the FPS genre as we know it, today.
That said, I have to admit that I just don't find the game that fun after playing DOOM. To me, DOOM took everything that W3D got right and brought it to a whole new level, making W3D seem kind of stale in comparison whenever I try and go back to it, IMO.
It's sort of like playing SMB1 after SMB3. So much was improved and made better, but I can still go back and play the older one for what it was.
I imagine playing this for the first time in 1992 would have been mind-blowing. Though I don't think I played in until years later.
That's kind of the thing, though. In that case as well, while I fully appreciate the former game for really starting up the genre as we know it, the latter game just improved on its core concepts so much in every conceivable way that it makes it hard for me to enjoy playing the former game when I know the latter does all of that stuff better.
So, yeah, I respect SMB1 (and for what its worth I can still play it and get some enjoyment out of it), but I just don't really find it as interesting as SMB3 (or SMW, for that matter, which I still like even better than SMB3, as well).
I respect Wolf 3D, but I never actually feel like playing it. SMB 1 holds up a lot better for me because the controls are still perfect and the graphics are more pleasing. Wolfenstein's more like the original Metroid than SMB or LoZ to me; while it was certainly a mind-blowing release back in the day, I don't really get much enjoyment out of playing it now.
Wolf3D was the first FPS I ever played (Doom came a little later) so I feel a bit sentimental about it.
Just think of how ahead of its time it was. In an age where corridor and military shooters are now king, this was the original. That it's still heavily aped today should prove its worth.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 06, 2012, 01:12:59 PM
Just think of how ahead of its time it was. In an age where corridor and military shooters are now king, this was the original. That it's still heavily aped today should prove its worth.
It's not a real military corridor shooter unless you have AI teammates to kick doors open for you.
Quote from: Foggle on May 06, 2012, 01:19:25 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 06, 2012, 01:12:59 PM
Just think of how ahead of its time it was. In an age where corridor and military shooters are now king, this was the original. That it's still heavily aped today should prove its worth.
It's not a real military corridor shooter unless you have AI teammates to kick doors open for you.
I want to search the halls for hidden rooms! Stop rushing me!
I don't really like the game dictating my pace for me like that.
Seriously. AI teammates just should not exist in shooters unless it's like that one level in Max Payne 2 where they only accompany you for about two minutes and serve primarily as comic relief.
The worst example of horrible AI teammates as to go to every Halo game after Combat Evolved and Resident Evil 5, in which they actively make the game HARDER for you due to them being completely incompetent. In the Halo sequels (and prequel), they can run over you when they get into vehicles, and this is happened to me at least a few times in each Halo game since the 2nd one. Even at other times they can get in my way when I'm trying to aim, and at some points I've even died because I've taken splash damage from the morons among them who are allowed to carry rocket launchers, and happen to shoot an enemy that's right next to me.
In Resident Evil 5, you have Sheva...I shouldn't need to say anymore than that.
Left 4 Dead's bots are also pretty awful. You're already dead if you get caught by a Smoker or Jockey in single-player.
That's only for the first game (a big part of why I didn't like it). I played quite a bit of L4D2, and they were MUCH more helpful in that game. They weren't perfect by any stretch, but I could recall several times in which I was caught by a smoker, jockey, or hunter, and they got me out of my bind almost instantly. Hell, sometimes I felt like they responded faster than a human teammate possibly could, with insane precision at that. I even recall being save from a witch by them on a couple of occasions. Sure, there are times when the AI craps out and they don't help you (usually when you have another teammate down as well, or in the worst case when only one AI partner is left standing and the other 2 are down), but from what I played, those seemed to be the exception rather than the rule.
When did you play it? I haven't really played SP since L4D 2 first came out, but at that time the AI literally never saved me from jockeys or smokers (I'd say it was actually worse than in the first game, even). It's certainly possible that Valve have patched it since release, though.
Then clearly we had very different experiences, because I played the PC version on the year it was released (it was on my friend's laptop). I played the game quite a bit since our dorm rooms were on the same floor and we hung out all the time, and I can honestly say that in my experience my AI partners saved me from smokers, jockeys, and hunters all the time, and when they didn't do that they were at least helpful with crowd control. I definitely don't see how it was worse than the first game where they neglected to do all of those things and would rarely ever even revive you when you were down.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on May 06, 2012, 01:59:17 PM
the year it was released
I'm talking release week, not release year. It's probably been patched since then.
The AI has been improved in patches for L4D2. They're still not as good as they could be (you will never beat expert with them), but they actually do save you from everything now.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on May 06, 2012, 01:32:00 PM
The worst example of horrible AI teammates as to go to every Halo game after Combat Evolved and Resident Evil 5, in which they actively make the game HARDER for you due to them being completely incompetent. In the Halo sequels (and prequel), they can run over you when they get into vehicles, and this is happened to me at least a few times in each Halo game since the 2nd one. Even at other times they can get in my way when I'm trying to aim, and at some points I've even died because I've taken splash damage from the morons among them who are allowed to carry rocket launchers, and happen to shoot an enemy that's right next to me.
My favorite was in Reach I was aiming the rocket launcher like so much Riggs on Mr. Joshua when right as I pulled the trigger an ally drove by on the Warthog blowing the thing back into a nearby tree and then landing on me. Splash damage AND crushed.
:-X
My favorite moment like that was in Halo 3 on Legendary in which I worked my ass off to take out 3 Wraiths on foot with a combination of a rocket launcher, a fuel rod cannon, and grenades of various types, and worked my ass off to do so since my teammates certainly weren't doing shit. I managed to take them all out and paused on the ground in a moment of glory....only to randomly be run over by a Warthog before I had a chance to reach the next checkpoint and thus was forced to repeat the entire section all over again.
Needless to say, I killed all of my team members as soon as I restarted from the last checkpoint and destroyed my Warthog. I then successfully completed the section again without any such incidents reoccurring. I learned an important lesson on how to play Halo, that day. :thumbup:
Quote from: Lord Dalek on May 05, 2012, 02:28:58 PM
Phantasy Star II (great plot but a bit clunky)
Phantasy Star IV (THE GREATEST 16-BIT RPG OF ALL TIME FUCKYOUSQUARE)
Vectorman 2 (More of the same if you like Vectorman, a real if ain't broke don't fix it sequel)
Wonder Boy in Monster World (pretty good action rpg)
Revenge of Shinobi (HOLY CRAP ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?)
Beyond Oasis (really good action rpg)
Dynamite Headdy (its Treasure)
Amen
So as I got my point card for the Monster World games next week I noticed I had enough points left for Bomberman '94 so I picked that up. I can't exactly knock 5 player multiplayer, but so far it seems to blow Bomberman '93 away. Pun fully intended.
Unless we get Saturn emulation on the Wii-U, this is probably going to be the best Bomberman for local multiplayer for a long time.
Quote from: Foggle on May 05, 2012, 03:02:21 PM
Quote from: Lord Dalek on May 05, 2012, 02:28:58 PM
Phantasy Star IV (THE GREATEST 16-BIT RPG OF ALL TIME FUCKYOUSQUARE)
Vectorman 2 (More of the same if you like Vectorman, a real if ain't broke don't fix it sequel)
Revenge of Shinobi (HOLY CRAP ARE YOU SERIOUS?!?)
I already know that I love these three. ;) Just wanted to post up the whole list for people to see.
I thought you thought PS4 was outdated?
...5 player multi-player? Not 4, not 6? WHAT IS THIS MADNESS :SHOCK:
Quote from: gunswordfist on May 06, 2012, 04:29:35 PM
I thought you thought PS4 was outdated?
I think the first two are. Never played 3, and I like 4.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 06, 2012, 04:12:11 PM
So as I got my point card for the Monster World games next week I noticed I had enough points left for Bomberman '94 so I picked that up. I can't exactly knock 5 player multiplayer, but so far it seems to blow Bomberman '93 away. Pun fully intended.
Unless we get Saturn emulation on the Wii-U, this is probably going to be the best Bomberman for local multiplayer for a long time.
Aren't Saturn games hard to emulate or something like that?
Once I think about it, 5 player co-op in Bomberman makes PERFECT sense. 1 in each corner, 1 in the middle.
Quote from: Rynnec on May 06, 2012, 04:36:19 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 06, 2012, 04:12:11 PM
So as I got my point card for the Monster World games next week I noticed I had enough points left for Bomberman '94 so I picked that up. I can't exactly knock 5 player multiplayer, but so far it seems to blow Bomberman '93 away. Pun fully intended.
Unless we get Saturn emulation on the Wii-U, this is probably going to be the best Bomberman for local multiplayer for a long time.
Aren't Saturn games hard to emulate or something like that?
Sega's just getting emulation down now with Sonic CD (Sega CD) and Radiant Silvergun (Saturn) for their more difficult systems. Not to mention their Dreamcast ports. Which should mean the Wii-U VC could probably handle everything up to Dreamcast and Gamecube.
If that's the case then Saturn Bomberman could be one of the headliners. Not to mention being able to reliably play Nights, Burning Rangers, Astal, and the Clockwork Knights games without having to hunt them down.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 06, 2012, 04:51:50 PM
Quote from: Rynnec on May 06, 2012, 04:36:19 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 06, 2012, 04:12:11 PM
So as I got my point card for the Monster World games next week I noticed I had enough points left for Bomberman '94 so I picked that up. I can't exactly knock 5 player multiplayer, but so far it seems to blow Bomberman '93 away. Pun fully intended.
Unless we get Saturn emulation on the Wii-U, this is probably going to be the best Bomberman for local multiplayer for a long time.
Aren't Saturn games hard to emulate or something like that?
Sega's just getting emulation down now with Sonic CD (Sega CD) and Radiant Silvergun (Saturn) for their more difficult systems. Not to mention their Dreamcast ports. Which should mean the Wii-U VC could probably handle everything up to Dreamcast and Gamecube.
If that's the case then Saturn Bomberman could be one of the headliners. Not to mention being able to reliably play Nights, Burning Rangers, Astal, and the Clockwork Knights games without having to hunt them down.
I certainly hope that'd be the case. Much as I want to play a few Saturn games, they're really not enough of them for me to shell out cash for the system.
I must be a lot better at Super C than I thought. I sat down to play it on the VC and got up to level 3 without even dying once and finally had to continue in mid-stage 4. Honestly, this game really didn't need the 30-live code, even if it was in the game. I barely remember the level layouts and I still managed to get about halfway through the game before running out of lives. With a bit of practice it wouldn't take long to beat it on one continue.
That said, I miss the platforming from Contra. It has always been my biggest issue with Super C, most levels are merely straight lines with few set pieces. But it makes up for it with its simplicity, so at least it isn't a carbon copy of the original. Also, unlike the arcade version, the NES version has rock solid controls.
Contra is one of those rare arcade games where graphics quality is not nearly enough to keep it from paling against the NES version. And Super Contra actually manages to be worse in that regard.
This time I made it up to Area 6 before I simply hit a wall. I forgot how much I detest that level. The overhead levels in Super C are why I would not enjoy a 3D Contra game.
Quote from: Lord Dalek on May 07, 2012, 12:02:51 PM
Contra is one of those rare arcade games where graphics quality is not nearly enough to keep it from paling against the NES version. And Super Contra actually manages to be worse in that regard.
Yeah, I still couldn't believe when I tried the arcade version years later. The art style and controls are just lacking while the NES versions have a very clean and simplistic style that work much better. Not to mention the awkward aiming and jumping.
How much would you pay for a copy of Super Street Fighter II on the SNES?
$5.
I would prefer Turbo over that one. IMO, it has the best balance.
I found it for $20 at Gorilla Games. I thought it was rather pricey, but I'd still love to have it in my collection.
Wolfenstein Free D! (http://wolfenstein.bethsoft.com/)
The Monster World games came out on the VC today.
You guys have to get Monster World IV. It's a great action platformer. Easily one of the best games on the Genesis.
Monster Land arcade is rock hard, but it's really fun it's simplicity. Since it has actual continues, it's the best version there is.
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Now that is cool.
If a Dreamcast like that was on sale back at a time when I could actually afford to buy consoles, I'd have totally hit that up. That design looks awesome.
Very nice. :thumbup:
Ohhh man, I need that. Now.
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lawl
I still felt like I paid way too much for it.
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lawl
:D he price tag should actually be - whatever that game cost them because it's a waste of money.
Let me just throw out how great the underrated Adventures Of Batman & Robin for the SNES is. Not only is the game great to look at, smooth to control, and cool to listen to, the game is pretty varied. Check it out:
Stage 1 - Beat 'Em Up
Stage 2 - Platformer
Stage 3 - Adventure (like the old point n clicks)
Stage 4 - One long chase and boss fight
Stage 5 - Top down car chase
Stage 6 - Beat 'Em Up (with a twist)
Stage 7 - Maze
Stage 8 - Boss Rush (Including new bosses)
Special mention has to be made that all the bosses are pretty freaking hard. If you think the first one is tough, well, they don't get any easier!
Is that the one that looks like BTAS with its art design? I think I rented it once when I was a kid, but I can't be sure since there were a ton of Batman games back in the day and I tried a few of them, at least.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on May 15, 2012, 11:43:30 PM
Is that the one that looks like BTAS with its art design? I think I rented it once when I was a kid, but I can't be sure since there were a ton of Batman games back in the day and I tried a few of them, at least.
Yeah, it's this one:
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There was another game with a similar title for the Genesis but it was more of a Contra-style game. There was also a Game Boy game with the same title that was more like the old Batman platformers. Konami did a lot of good with the WB license back in the day.
So I've been planning for my next addition to my retro gaming collection to be a Dreamcast, and while checking Goodwill and some thrift stores today, I found a few games for it across them. Mostly sports titles, but I did find the first Tony Hawk game.
If it was 2, I would've bought it in an instant for safekeeping. But since it'd only be $3, I think I might go back and get it anyway.
As for my DC, my plan would be to buy one at Gorilla Games. They sell theirs for $40, but I can talk the guys down at one of them to $30.
This month's Club Nintendo deals:
QuoteDSi Ware - Brain Age Express: Sudoku (150 coins)
Wii Ware - Maboshi's Arcade (150 coins)
3DS VC - Donkey Kong '94 (100 coins)
Wii VC - Kirby Super Star (150 coins)
If only I had more points, I'd hit up Kirby Super Star.
Hey dudes, Tomba! is coming to PSN on June 19! No more paying 60 bucks for the game, now you only pay $9.99.
http://www.joystiq.com/2012/06/01/tomba-arrives-on-psn-june-19-for-10/?utm_medium=twitter&utm_source=twitterfeed
If you guys have anything that plays PS1 classics, you need to hit this up. This is probably the best first party (Uh, sort of) game in Sony's library.
I got my hands on Game Boy Donkey Kong today. So glad I'm getting some use out of my coins, there's a few that are about to expire.
HAH!!!! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-eKSXzw368&feature=g-all-f)
So I just learned about the Neo Geo X.
This was my initial thought after reading about it.
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Then I saw the price tag
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Dammit.
So during the week I beat two PS1 classics in Crash Bandicoot and Spyro The Dragon.
I mostly played them in between each other being that Crash is completely unforgiving, and Spyro can be a real bore at times to play through. So they balance each other out.
Crash 1 would be the best Crash Bandicoot game if they did the following:
- Not having to beat a stage in one life to get all boxes and get a gem (and therefore 100%)
- Proper save points
- The difficulty was not so insane at points
- Some platforms are hard to see and judge distance on
- Bosses were not placed so... randomly
Otherwise, it was a great game and still fun to play... just don't bother with 100% (and the secret ending is incredibly lame)
However, Spyro 1 I had never played before. In fact, I've never played a proper Insomniac Spyro before, so this was my first one. My biggest issue was how confusing some Dragons were to rescue, and some of the eggs you have to rescue are aggravating due to having to use the d-pad to do it (d-pads on full 3D games are kind of annoying), and some hubs are strange to navigate (a map would help), the game was fun as a whole.
Some levels were plain boring, some were annoying (GRAB THE LEDGE SPRYO GRAB IT ARGH), and the bosses were really forgettable (the final one being awful), but other than those moments, I was enjoying myself. I liked how all the enemies varied between using your headbutt and using your flame to beat them, the music was pretty nice, and Spyro was a cute little character. Graphics were pretty good for early PS1, too.
I have the other 2 Spyros on PSN, so maybe I'll give them a go next... After my PSP screen stops hurting my eyes.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 10, 2012, 07:57:07 PM
I have the other 2 Spyros on PSN, so maybe I'll give them a go next... After my PSP screen stops hurting my eyes.
Why don't you play them on the PS3?
Quote from: Foggle on June 11, 2012, 12:16:22 AM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 10, 2012, 07:57:07 PM
I have the other 2 Spyros on PSN, so maybe I'll give them a go next... After my PSP screen stops hurting my eyes.
Why don't you play them on the PS3?
Told ya, man. I can't always use the PS3! :P
The TV has been having issues on top of it (we've been waiting for a repairman for like two weeks now), so currently the PS3 is a no go.
Aww, that sucks. :( But it's really cool that you can play PS1 classics on both consoles.
You've never played Spyro before? :-\
I just have fond memories of the game. Maybe I need to play it again.
Quote from: gunswordfist on June 11, 2012, 07:00:24 PM
You've never played Spyro before? :-\
I never played Banjo Kazooie on the N64, either. I didn't really like 3D platformers at the time.
It was probably a good idea I didn't play it, because I don't think I would have liked it back then.
Hmmm, I never played Banjo Kazooie either. It was Rayman for me. :sly:
Mega Man X2 is also on the Virtual Console now.
Here's hoping they can get X3 on there since the SNES version has never been put on anything else, and the Virtual Console is always 100% accurate to the originals. (Except N64 games which have less blur and fog)
Some guy who contacted me on Craigs List just traded me his Dreamcast for all of my Ultimate Spider-Man TPBs.
But this is no ordinary Dreamcast. This one can play burned games and stuff from other regions. And it's the sexy black model. SO FUCKIN' STOKED
Now that's a good deal!
What games should I get? Imports and homebrew are cool, too!
I already know that I definitely need:
Power Stone 2 (he traded me the first one with the console!)
Jet Grind Radio
Shenmue
Shenmue 2
Crazy Taxi
Sonic Adventure
Sonic Adventure 2
But there's gotta' be a ton of others! Lay 'em on me!
DC's still got the definitive version of Ikaruga IIRC.
Quote from: Foggle on June 19, 2012, 02:39:05 PM
What games should I get? Imports and homebrew are cool, too!
I already know that I definitely need:
Power Stone 2 (he traded me the first one with the console!)
Jet Grind Radio
Shenmue
Shenmue 2
Crazy Taxi
Sonic Adventure
Sonic Adventure 2
But there's gotta' be a ton of others! Lay 'em on me!
Skies of Arcadia. ;D
That's pretty much all I got.
On another note, has anyone else tried to download Tomba on PSN today? Whenever I try to, it says "This content cannot be accessed on your account".
I just get a general error. Sony really hates this series. I can't think of any explanation as to why this stuff always happens in regards to it.
Quote from: Rynnec on June 19, 2012, 02:45:34 PM
Quote from: Foggle on June 19, 2012, 02:39:05 PM
What games should I get? Imports and homebrew are cool, too!
I already know that I definitely need:
Power Stone 2 (he traded me the first one with the console!)
Jet Grind Radio
Shenmue
Shenmue 2
Crazy Taxi
Sonic Adventure
Sonic Adventure 2
But there's gotta' be a ton of others! Lay 'em on me!
Skies of Arcadia. ;D
That's pretty much all I got.
Good choice.
Dreamcast is a beast for arcade style games, so if there's an arcade port, chances are it's way better on Dreamcast than any other system.
Foggle would enjoy:
Armada
Blue Stinger
Bangai-O
Bomberman Online (Online being down aside, it's great)
Chu-Chu-Rocket
Cannon Spike
Confidential Mission (get a cheap light gun)
House Of The Dead 2
Virtua Cop 2
Dynamite Cop!
Zombie Revenge
Last Blade 2
Fatal Fury: Mark Of The Wolves
Project Justice
MDK2
Sega Swirl
Space Channel 5
OutTrigger
Rayman 2 (widely considered the best version)
REZ
Hydro Thunder
Rent-A-Hero
SoulCalibur (Legendary port)
Tech Romancer (It's not a typical fighter at all, you'd like it)
Virtual-On: Oratorio Tangram (Same)
Sword Of The Berserk: Gut's Rage (Yep, it is a Berserk game)
Typing Of The Dead
Toy Commander
Tony Hawk Pro Skater 1 and 2 (best versions of the games)
Segaga (This is being translated, but you can't miss this)
Any racer or sports game made by Sega
And for kicks:
Half-Life 2 (Never released/finished)
Yes, I know you're not big on traditional fighters, but those 3 are some of the best.
Dreamcast rules.
The Soul Calibur port for the Dreamcast was amazingly good.
Dead or Alive 2 was also a great fighting game on the DC (its the best DOA game by far, and the only one that I really care for), though DOA2 Ultimate on the XBOX is better (its basically the NGB of the DOA series).
That said, I know that Foggle doesn't like traditional fighters, so I'm not sure how much he would actually enjoy either of those games.
Tomba! is finally out on PSN. If you own a PS3 or a PSP, pick it up!
The game has held up great.
I thought it was already out? I'll try and convince my baby brother to get the game. He got Rayman Origins yesterday and we played that (with one controller because his other two are broken)
Also, how good are the Dreamcast versions of Dino Crisis 1 and/or 2 (I forgot which one was on that console) I'd like to see a list of games that were better on DC than PS1 period.
Quote from: gunswordfist on June 19, 2012, 06:18:48 PM
I thought it was already out? I'll try and convince my baby brother to get the game. He got Rayman Origins yesterday and we played that (with one controller because his other two are broken)
Also, how good are the Dreamcast versions of Dino Crisis 1 and/or 2 (I forgot which one was on that console) I'd like to see a list of games that were better on DC than PS1 period.
As far as I'm aware, every single Dreamcast game that has a PS1 or PS2 version is better on the Dreamcast. Yep, that's right, even better than the PS2 versions.
I'm not quite sure how that happened, but it did.
There's a funny story about the PS2 version of DOA2, which is of course inferior to the DC version going by anyone you ask. Itagaki himself said that one of the Tecmo higher-ups literally stole a disc copy from his desk to use for mass-publication copies just because they wanted to get the game out by a certain date, whereas Itagaki and his team were nowhere close to done working on the port. He actually said that he almost quit being a game developer when he realized what they had pulled on him. Thankfully enough, he at least made it all the way to Ninja Gaiden Black's release (and past that, of course).
No dice on the light gun games. I only have a LCD TV. :(
I've been looking into quite a few of those games already. Thanks guys!
Also, I just went to the store and picked up Grandia 2 and Crazy Taxi! Also, Tenchu Stealth Assassins for PS1. ;D
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention the most exciting part... I got a brand new, in the box Dreamcast controller today, as well! And it's a European one with the blue swirl. :joy:
I'll probably... err... "demo" a bunch of DC games and then buy the ones I really like. I don't really have a problem with downloading games when purchasing them wouldn't actually benefit the developers/publishers.
This console seems really awesome. Lots of weird Japanese games for it. Just my type!
Personally, in terms of quality, I'd go so far as to say that it was Sega's best console (even better than the Genesis, honestly). Its just sad that it didn't do well for them financially, but even so it has a plethora of truly remarkable titles behind it, and to me it stands the test of time better than either the N64/PS1 generation as well as the PS2/GC/XBOX generation. Most people don't know it, though, because not a lot of people ever actually owned a Dreamcast. I wish I could find mine, but I have no idea what happened to it.
I wasn't a big Dreamcast owner. What are some games on it that you guys are big fans of?
Just look up in this page and go back one, and you'll find a lot of recs. I'm using this myself, for when I get mine.
The Dreamcast was probably their best preforming system since the Genesis on a world-wide basis. If it wasn't for all the debts that sunk them from the Sega CD/32x/Saturn debacles, the Dreamcast would have stuck around longer. Short of the Dreamcast getting Sony level sales at the time, the Dreamcast was always going to be their last console.
That said, it was still the best system last generation.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on June 19, 2012, 06:57:09 PM
There's a funny story about the PS2 version of DOA2, which is of course inferior to the DC version going by anyone you ask. Itagaki himself said that one of the Tecmo higher-ups literally stole a disc copy from his desk to use for mass-publication copies just because they wanted to get the game out by a certain date, whereas Itagaki and his team were nowhere close to done working on the port. He actually said that he almost quit being a game developer when he realized what they had pulled on him. Thankfully enough, he at least made it all the way to Ninja Gaiden Black's release (and past that, of course).
*snickers*
Sonic Adventure 2 is headed to XBLA and PSN on the 3rd of October 2012 (http://www.sonicstadium.org/2012/06/sonic-adventure-2-confirmed-for-xbox-live-marketplace/)
This one looks like to have effort put into it (like widescreen), so if you don't have it, now's your chance!
Has anyone here played a Japanese Dreamcast game named Bomber Hehhe!? It looks/sounds great, but I can't find a copy cheaper than $80 or a working torrent...
Quote from: Foggle on June 19, 2012, 08:23:07 PM
Has anyone here played a Japanese Dreamcast game named Bomber Hehhe!? It looks/sounds great, but I can't find a copy cheaper than $80 or a working torrent...
Found a place to download it. Get like 20 kb/s from their server, though.
Anyway, Dreamcast is amazing so far. I forgot how much I love Crazy Taxi.
Double Dragon II is now on the Virtual Console.
FINALLY.
I miss playing games like Ready 2 Rumble and Vigilante 8. Once I think about it, Foggle should get those games for Dreamcast (I think it's just the second installment of each series that's available on the console though)
Bought a boxed copy of Diddy's Kong Quest for 20 bucks.
Popped in The Simpsons Hit & Run on a whim. Think the last time I played was 2004. Was pretty quickly reminded why this was one of my favorite games.
I love that game, probably my favorite Simpsons game(sorry Arcade). I have it for GCN, PS2, and Xbox, all for different reasons, because at one point or another I didn't have each respective system or it's backwards compatible successors on hand, and when you want to play the game and only have a Wii you go out and buy the GCN version. So yeah, all three.
It might just be in my top 10. The levels, the atmosphere when you're just walking, the music when you're driving, the spot-on Simpsons dialogue, the plot, the collectibles. I freaking love it. There are some really annoying missions, but they even put a mercy mode in there.
Shame I didn't like The Simpsons Game though. Only played the Wii version though. Was the XBox 360 version any better? Because the motion controls were part of the problem with that.
I also like Road Rage to an extent. Sure it's a Crazy taxi rip, but I had fun with that one.
Quote from: Comeau on June 30, 2012, 07:14:08 PM
Bought a boxed copy of Diddy's Kong Quest for 20 bucks.
WHERE are you finding all these boxed copies? :wth:
The only one that the indy game store here has ever had (that's actually worth buying) is my copy of F-Zero X (which, coincidentally, is also my
only N64 boxed copy). The rest of it was just old sport sim junk; Madden, NHL Breakaway, stuff like that. I think they also had a complete Superman 64 once too IIRC, but for obvious reasons I didn't touch that one. :blush:
Boxes are pretty useless for cartridge games, but I'd still love to have 'em. Too bad they're so hard to find anymore, at least around here anyway.
Quote from: Kiddington on June 30, 2012, 10:54:19 PM
Quote from: Comeau on June 30, 2012, 07:14:08 PM
Bought a boxed copy of Diddy's Kong Quest for 20 bucks.
WHERE are you finding all these boxed copies? :wth:
Well, we've got two awesome used video game stores in the area, one in Virginia Beach and one in Chesapeake. Want a boxed copy of Donkey Kong 64(complete with the N64 expansion pack), or Tony Hawk's American Sk8land for GBA, or Cool World for SNES(a video game based of that terrible Ralph Bakshi film), or Jurassic Park for Game Boy, or Sim City for SNES? Come to Virginia, the store I went to today(the one in Chesapeake) had all of these, plus other stuff like a boxed gold Pokemon Game Boy Advance and a boxed green Donkey Kong 64 Nintendo 64.
BTW, I have interest in buying a Saturn, is there any games for it though that I should look out for?
Quote from: Comeau on June 30, 2012, 11:08:51 PM
Quote from: Kiddington on June 30, 2012, 10:54:19 PM
Quote from: Comeau on June 30, 2012, 07:14:08 PM
Bought a boxed copy of Diddy's Kong Quest for 20 bucks.
WHERE are you finding all these boxed copies? :wth:
Well, we've got two awesome used video game stores in the area, one in Virginia Beach and one in Chesapeake. Want a boxed copy of Donkey Kong 64(complete with the N64 expansion pack), or Tony Hawk's American Sk8land, or Cool World(a video game based of that terrible Ralph Bakshi film), or Jurassic Park for Game Boy, or Sim City for SNES? Come to Virginia, the store I went to today(the one in Chesapeake) had all of these, plus other stuff like a boxed gold Pokemon Game Boy Advance and a boxed green Donkey Kong 64 Nintendo 64.
:swoon:
God I wish our indy game store was that good. The place is okay I guess, but the selection really varies from time to time (they haven't had squat the last couple of times I've gone down), and a lot of it is overpriced anyway (although I did find a copy of Conker's Bad Fur Day a few months ago for only $25, and I see it regularly goes for at least $40 on Amazon, so that was pretty cool).
Yeah, my copy of Conker I paid 50-60 bucks for, it's one of the few games I've over paid for.
Quote from: Comeau on June 30, 2012, 11:10:36 PM
BTW, I have interest in buying a Saturn, is there any games for it though that I should look out for?
Going solely by critical reception:
NIGHTS into Dreams
the Panzer Dragoon Trilogy
Saturn Bomberman
Speaking of Panzer Dragoon, I've heard great things about Panzer Dragoon Orta for the XBOX. I just found out that it was developed by Smilebit (the same developer that made JGR and JSRF), so that alone makes me want to play the game. It also seems like one of those XBOX exclusive games that never got any ports, so in other words its one of those few exclusives that makes an XBOX worth owning. Since I have an old XBOX that seems to work fine enough, I might hit that game up if I can find it for cheap enough online. I can't believe I missed out on it before, especially since the original XBOX didn't exactly offer up the most diverse selection of great games to choose from. That said, I do still say that while it was still just an XBOX exclusive last gen, Ninja Gaiden Black DID single-handedly make my XBOX worth owning.
Quote from: Comeau on June 30, 2012, 11:10:36 PM
BTW, I have interest in buying a Saturn, is there any games for it though that I should look out for?
Find Three Dirty Dwarves, it's an obscure game that could only have been made in the 90s, and it's very unique.
Other games:
Astal
Burning Rangers
Sonic Jam (these have added features)
NiGHTS
Clockwork Knight 2 (I hear this includes the original, but I'm not sure)
Shinobi Legions
Panzer Dragoon (All of them)
Any Sega racer
Contra: Legacy Of WarAny 2D fighting game
NBA Jam Tournament Edition (Most likely the best console version)
Die Hard Arcade
In The Hunt
Dragon Force
Mega Man 8 (Rare, but it has more content than the PS1 version)
Mega Man X4 (Rare, but it's the best version)
Herc's Adventure
Virtua Cop
Virtua Cop 2 (I think there's a version with both games... I'm not sure)
D
House Of The Dead (The only version of this game anywhere)
Saturn Bomberman
There's a lot more if you can play import games on them, but the Saturn's a pretty good system. It had
by far the best 2D of that generation of systems, so if there's a PS1 2D game- the Saturn version is always better.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 30, 2012, 11:36:44 PM
Mega Man 8 (Rare, but it has more content than the PS1 version)
I'm not sure more content would make MM 8 good...
QuoteD
Ugh... Fuck that game and its sequels. Least fun I've ever had with a video game tbh.
QuoteHouse Of The Dead (The only version of this game anywhere)
There's a PC version too, actually. ;)
Speaking of HotD, I wish I still had a CRT TV so that I could play light gun games on my Dreamcast... :(
Doesn't the Saturn version of MM 8 come with a special anniversary booklet that you can't get in the PS1? I think that makes it worth looking out for.
As for Panzer Dragoon Orta, I own it and enjoy it. I don't know how it compares to the Saturn games, but I think it's worth checking out.
Quote from: Foggle on June 30, 2012, 11:42:07 PM
Speaking of HotD, I wish I still had a CRT TV so that I could play light gun games on my Dreamcast... :(
I got a CRT not too long ago, and yeah it had been forever since I had used the NES Zapper. Right now it has my NES, Dreamcast, and PS2 hooked up to it.
Apparently Konami screwed up the Saturn version of Symphony Of The night, but since it's Japanese only, I wouldn't worry about coming across it.
Quote from: Foggle on June 30, 2012, 11:42:07 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 30, 2012, 11:36:44 PM
Mega Man 8 (Rare, but it has more content than the PS1 version)
I'm not sure more content would make MM 8 good...
It won't, but it's rare and the superior version of the game. So if you want to play it, that's the version to get, and I think Avaitor is right in that it includes extras.
QuoteQuoteD
Ugh... Fuck that game and its sequels. Least fun I've ever had with a video game tbh.
No clue, I'm just going on recommendations I've seen. Some seem to like this series.
QuoteQuoteHouse Of The Dead (The only version of this game anywhere)
There's a PC version too, actually. ;)
Speaking of HotD, I wish I still had a CRT TV so that I could play light gun games on my Dreamcast... :(
There is? Where? Sega has never ported it to anything because they lost the source code. It's the only reason it wasn't in either Wii HOTD release.
Oh yeah, it's real. You can buy it here: HUGE EBAY LINK (http://www.ebay.com/itm/House-Dead-SEGA-PC-Collection-/260988728764?_trksid=p3284.m263&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC%26its%3DI%26itu%3DUCI%252BUA%252BP%252BFICS%252BUFI%252BIIUM%26otn%3D1%26pmod%3D260438910021%26ps%3D54)
Doesn't run too well on Windows 7, though.
Oh, it's one of those PC things they did way back. I also used to have Virtua Cop on my old PC... Unfortunately, it doesn't run now. :(
Mario Tennis 64 is now on Club Nintendo for 150 points if you have them.
I really wish I had points and my Wii was still working.
I picked up River City Ransom for the GBA. I don't even own the NES version, something I need to fix.
And I've been lookig around for Road Rash 1 and 2 for the Genny, but all I've found is Road Rash 64(which I'm unsure of the quality of) and Road Rash Sega CD(which I almost bought, but I don't have a Sega CD nor do I want to go through the hassle to get one). Why are these games so hard to find?
Quote from: Comeau on July 03, 2012, 06:56:35 PM
I picked up River City Ransom for the GBA. I don't even own the NES version, something I need to fix.
And I've been lookig around for Road Rash 1 and 2 for the Genny, but all I've found is Road Rash 64(which I'm unsure of the quality of)
I own Road Rash 64, and I can say that its definitely a good game, though its not quite as good as the PC Road Rash games that I used to play. Then again, I haven't played any Road Rash game in well over a decade, so maybe I'm thinking of them to nostalgically, but to me they were always really addicting. I will say that while the PC RR games that I played had better single-player, the N64 one had a really awesome multiplayer, though the single-player mode is still fun as well, and its addicting to win prize money through races and upgrade to much better bikes. Its also a ton of fun to trip up your competition or just flat out knock them off of their bikes with physical force.
For what it's worth the Sega CD version of Road Rash is supposedly one of the best ones.
I really wish I could understand why they stopped making these after the PlayStation/N64 versions. It's not like the series stopped doing well or anything. EA never makes sense to me.
Well I'd still need a Sega CD model 1(since my Genesis is one of the original models), which I'm still not sure I'd want. Damn Sega, you should've just made it so the Saturn could play Sega CD games, it would've been so much easier since Im considering buying one.
IIRC, the 3DO Road Rash is usually hailed as the best of the bunch.
And where the fuck am I gonna get a 3DO? Don't think I've ever seen one in person.
Although Cool Stuff does have 3DO games in their cases...
The 3DO has a few good games and ports, much like the 32x, but I really don't have much interest in seeking them out. :sweat:
But I resolved myself to getting all the Sega systems one day. Even the weirder ones.
I think I've said it before, but one of the local shops here has a Nomad. I've thought about it, but I don't know if I'd get much use out of it. They also have the TV tuner to the Game Gear, which would also be a cool little novelty, except you can't pick up any TV station worth a damn anymore since everything is all digital now.
I think they have Master Systems, not sure though. They do have a bunch of Master System games, which is why I think they also have the systems as well.
Yeah, I almost got a Master System once, I think I mentioned. I still want to get one if only for games like Shinobi, Psycho Fox, and other games I've never gotten around to playing.
I've been wanting to re-buy a Sega Genesis one of these days. If my brother and I had taken proper care of our consoles back in the day, we'd still have out Sega Genesis, SNES, and Dreamcast handy. Unfortunately, the only console that survived from my youth is the N64 (and its a great console, but I sorely miss my other consoles). If my brother and I had kept our PS1 it would probably be in good enough condition to play on, but that one we actually traded in when my brother was saving up for an XBOX.
Also, the store has a couple Genesis 3's. I had never seen those before either, they are so small, like a third of my model 1 Genesis.
And I've seen top-loader NES's and SNES 2's at this place before as well on a semi-regular basis.
I went back and picked up Road Rash 64, it was only ten bucks so I don't feel too bad. Also got all three Turoks for 5 a piece, and both Oracles at 15 each.
Final boss in Mega Man 3, no health or lives left, final hit, Wily's robot explodes.
The system freezes.
:burn:
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on July 03, 2012, 09:56:37 PM
I've been wanting to re-buy a Sega Genesis one of these days. If my brother and I had taken proper care of our consoles back in the day, we'd still have out Sega Genesis, SNES, and Dreamcast handy. Unfortunately, the only console that survived from my youth is the N64 (and its a great console, but I sorely miss my other consoles). If my brother and I had kept our PS1 it would probably be in good enough condition to play on, but that one we actually traded in when my brother was saving up for an XBOX.
Didn't you play Rocket Knight Adventures a few months ago? If so, what'd you play it on?
An emulator.
I got Metal Slug 3 and OutRun 2 for the XBOX today, and Ape Escape 3 all for $15. I've never played any of the Ape Escape games after the first, but I was willing to bite for the deal.
Also, EA really made a ton of sports games last gen. NFL Street, and tons of other games with similar titles filled the shelves. No NBA Street, tho.
Here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2yAJOu3btoY&feature=g-all-u) is a video list of the top 10 best obscure SNES games. I've heard of some of these games before, like Hagane and Wild Guns. I've always wanted to try out Wild Guns, myself.
Quote from: Rynnec on June 30, 2012, 11:18:34 PM
Quote from: Comeau on June 30, 2012, 11:10:36 PM
BTW, I have interest in buying a Saturn, is there any games for it though that I should look out for?
Going solely by critical reception:
NIGHTS into Dreams
the Panzer Dragoon Trilogy
Saturn Bomberman
I want Saturn Bomberman so badly.
I restarted Super Metroid yesterday because I got stuck in Norfair like 2 years ago. I ended up beating that whole area in less than half an hour after I restarted.
I feel like erasing my old file was pointless now but at least I can enjoy this game again.
Was playing Return Of The Double Dragon for the last two weeks. I got to really appreciate:
-How attacking enemies behind and in front of you isn't two hard.
-The counterattacks
-No time limits
-Weapons never disappear from dropping them. You can kick while using any of them.
-The kicking special attacks.
I remember this (http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/74af0v/screwattack-s-video-game-vault-adventures-of-batman-and-robin) game! My brother and I used to play it co-op all the time, and I didn't even realize that this game had stages until seeing this video! Well, that is to say that I thought that it just moved onto the next level without any notification, but that's not the case at all. The reason I didn't know that is because it was so hard for my brother and I at the time that we could never even make it past the first level! Damn, now I'm really interested in hitting this game up again and seeing if I can actually get to at least the 2nd level by myself.
Some of my most wanted retro games:
Saturn Bomberman
Strider 2
Tomba 2
Brave Fencer Musashi
Dino Crisis 1 and 2
Galerians
Any good Silent Hill
Out of this World
Plok
Rayman Gold
Megaman Legends
Castlevania Bloodlines
Mostly 2D games because I uh, well downloaded just about every 2D game I could think of. :sweat:
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on July 19, 2012, 03:47:10 PM
I remember this (http://www.gametrailers.com/videos/74af0v/screwattack-s-video-game-vault-adventures-of-batman-and-robin) game! My brother and I used to play it co-op all the time, and I didn't even realize that this game had stages until seeing this video! Well, that is to say that I thought that it just moved onto the next level without any notification, but that's not the case at all. The reason I didn't know that is because it was so hard for my brother and I at the time that we could never even make it past the first level! Damn, now I'm really interested in hitting this game up again and seeing if I can actually get to at least the 2nd level by myself.
Yeah, the Genesis game was sort of a co-op Contra style game. The SNES one was more of an adventure game. Both are well worth playing!
I just bought that Batman game. Also got Lufia & The Fortress of Doom, Super Mario RPG, and Looney Tunes Sheep Raider(PS1).
*Spits out drink.* (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhi-7lj7osI)
Anyone here ever played or heard of Yu Yu Hakusho FINAL? According to this (http://thatguywiththeglasses.com/bt/jewwario/ycpt/36134-ycpt-yuyu-hakusho-final) video, its apparently supposed to be a pretty good licensed fighting game in the vein of old-school fighters (being that it was released at the time of old-school fighters, obviously).
Sometime during the last two weeks I finally got past the first boss in Little Samson. I had no clue the game let's you switch between the 4 characters that. I thought the game was going to follow the some format the first stages have. Anyway, pleasant surprise. It opens up a lot of strategy. I do hate how everyone has the same theme music from their first level. That's kind of annoying and I'd rather hear regular level music instead of the same 4 themes. And the 2nd boss is a pain in the ass.
Are you playing it on normal or easy? The game actually plays quite a bit different in both difficulty levels.
I think between this and Gimmick I think these are the games that really pushed the NES to its limits. Just looking at the early NES games and then these, it's almost like a generation gap in difference.
I assume Normal since I hate Easy mode for all games not named Ninja Gaiden II. And yeah, the game has pretty impressive. It's surprising to see in-level character switching in a NES game.
Despite all my complaints, I've been having a good time with Little Samson. I just need to go back and die less.
Playing Ninja Gaiden 2 on Easy? Scrub detected. :sly:
:lol:
What I like about Ninja Gaiden II's easy mode is that it's well made enough to go through. Just about every other game's easy mode is insulting. I think DMC1 made me give up on that (a fucking weak Reaper instead of a Shadow is coming out of that statue?! REALLY?!). I like to go through all difficulties modes in games but I'm not for ones that don't even try to challenge you.
You should also play Viewtiful Joe on Kids Mode the first time through as well.
Kids Mode is basically normal mode while, Adults is basically a hard mode that assumes you know how play the game.
The difficulty was really mislabeled on that one.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on August 22, 2012, 09:30:32 PM
The difficulty was really mislabeled on that one.
Tell me about it. :sweat:
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on August 22, 2012, 09:30:32 PM
You should also play Viewtiful Joe on Kids Mode the first time through as well.
More like every time for me... Adults Mode is insane.
Quote from: Rynnec on August 22, 2012, 09:33:52 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on August 22, 2012, 09:30:32 PM
The difficulty was really mislabeled on that one.
Tell me about it. :sweat:
*Fights first boss and gets destroyed*
... ARRRRGH! WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS TO ME!
:D If only the US version of Streets Of Rage 3 let you beat the entire game on Easy mode instead of having the game stop at the creepy ending after you defeat Robo X. The only game where I have to go to the options and give myself as many lives as possible (and use two controllers to even have a small chance at getting the bad endings, nevermind the good one :sweat:) Funny enough, the Japanese version is very easy to beat. Hell, too easy. I flew through that game. :lol: And of course much more fun since it's possible to make it past stage 2 with all your continues.
I loathe the final boss in Streets Of Rage 3 if only because he is annoying to hit and because of that dumb time limit.
I like a lot of things in SoR3, but the little things just pull it back from me liking it more than 2 where I used to like it more.
Metal Slug X is now on the Virtual Console.
Now that the best games in the series are all on, hopefully SNK can divert their attention to getting Shock Troopers, Pulstar, and Last Blade 2 on there.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on August 22, 2012, 09:53:12 PM
I loathe the final boss in Streets Of Rage 3 if only because he is annoying to hit and because of that dumb time limit.
I like a lot of things in SoR3, but the little things just pull it back from me liking it more than 2 where I used to like it more.
I hear you can add time to the timer or some shit. Either way, that boss is the worse boss in Streets Of Rage history.
I don't like knifing the guy suntanning in the train stage in Metal Slug X.
It feels mean to the poor guy who's just catching some sun. :-[
My local Walmart still has new unopened copies of Drill Dozer sitting on it's shelves, for like ten bucks a pop. It's crazy.
Oh, and today is the Dreamcast's 13th birthday.
I wish I got that instead of a Gameboy Advance.
I've been playing lot's of old games lately. First it was this...
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fthumb%2Fa%2Fa7%2FChrono_Trigger.jpg%2F250px-Chrono_Trigger.jpg&hash=fa753190f93efd6ca4f1bad2533a17f0e8830906)
Then it was this...
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fthumb%2Fe%2Fe4%2FSmetroidbox.jpg%2F250px-Smetroidbox.jpg&hash=3d13a52fbdc382a0f9dd6da853a9ac3752822d8d)
Now it's this...
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fthumb%2F2%2F2e%2FDracula_x_%2528j%2529_front.jpg%2F250px-Dracula_x_%2528j%2529_front.jpg&hash=68ccd1c1d751cb924ae7d9888c4d876b9197ff85)
Life is as it should be.
Got Street Fighter II Turbo for free at the flea market today. :thumbup:
My local Play-N-Trade closed up shop so now I don't have a local place that sells retro games anymore. :whuh:
They converted it into a clothing store for toddlers. :wth:
Yeah, I don't think they are doing so hot right now. They've been closing quite a few stores recently, as opposed to a few years ago when they were expanding like crazy.
Anyway, I went on my own little retro shopping trip, got a few NES games(like A Boy and His Blob), a few SNES games(Aladdin), and a few DC games(Dave Mirra, MvC2). The most interesting thing I picked up though was an alternate label copy of Metroid, it has a yellow label instead of the silver one. I don't know how rare it is though.
My local Play-N-Trade closed up around two years ago. Of course, they were a bit overpriced (moreso than the two mom and pop operations we've got going here), so I never really did much in the way of shopping there.
Amazon continues to be my retro gaming preference, though... that is, of course, when I actually have money. :srs:
Well like I said, we never had a Play-N-Trade here, so I don't know what to say.
Our Gorilla Games have turned to shit though. There's barely anything left at any of them.
That feel where you never went to a Play-N-Trade before in your life.
I haven't been inside one since I lived in Idaho. They had them around here, but they all closed up shop some time before I got here. There's one still standing in VA Beach, but it's gutted inside; all that's up is the signage.
Super Mario World for $14 today.
I'm building up my SNES quite well.
I finally found the first Road Rash for Genesis, and I also got World of Illusion starring Mickey Mouse and Donald Duck for Genesis.
Oh, and I traded a dude my top loader NES for a Master System, I had been looking to get rid of my top loader. Now I need to find some Master System games.
Also, I'm trying to decide which system I should get next, an NES, Genesis or Dreamcast.
Suggestions?
I'd say it depends on what kinds of games in particular you want to play. If you want more classic platformers, it'd be more obvious to lean towards the NES or Genesis, but if you wanted a lot of good underrated gems from last-gen, or just a good selection of high unique games, then the Dreamcast would be a better choice for that scenario.
Personally I'd say either the Genny or the DC. Nothing against the NES, it's a fantastic system, but I've kind of gotten bored with a lot of it's games(I've started to seek out lesser known titles, moreso than other systems). 16 bit generation really was the best generation of gaming so far.
Plus, with the trends I've witnessed, you can get either a Genesis or Dreamcast for ~$20, NESs usually run $30 or more.
Gotta go with the NES or Gen. Both are fabulous systems, though the DC is great, too.
My brother and me got to the Final Mission for the first time yesterday. Well, he put the game on Easy and 9 continues without me knowing and he lost all of his lives some time before the boss in mission 4 but yeah, I went on to that stage...and died not too long after the first few enemies...and I didn't get a plane.
So I just found out the other day from Nintendo Age that several of the early NES games have Famicom adapters (http://famicomworld.com/workshop/articles/nes-cart-converters/) inside of them(apparently upon the NES's launch Nintendo was running low on NA circuit boards, so they just used FC boards with the adapter), the best example of which is Gyromite but other games like Clu Clu Land, Duck Hunt, Wild Gunman, Golf, Pinball, Donkey Kong Jr. Math, Wrecking Crew, pretty much most of the games that were available upon the NES launch have been known to have them.
Cool, I thought, because most of these games are fairly easy to find in video game shops for cheap, so I went out today and bought copies of Pinball, Wild Gunman, Wrecking Crew, Ice Climbers, and Excitebike, and lo and behold my copy of Excitebike has the adapter inside of it. I don't really know what to do with it, but if I so chose I'd be able to play Famicom games on my NES. Anyways, it's a pretty cool thing to have.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention too that I found a copy of Ducktales 2 for NES. $59 for just the cart though, not exactly cheap.
I'm keeping an eye out for the Rescue Rangers games now, RR2 is apparently just as hard or harder to find than Ducktales 2.
Nice pick ups, Duck Tales and Rescue Rangers are two of the best NES games and while the sequels aren't quite as great, they are extremely fun.
Super Punch Out is the Club Nintendo reward for this month.
The Turbografx is 25 years old today! (technically this happened yesterday)
This is probably the most overlooked system ever (next to the Dreamcast), but since the system was also part of the 16-bit generation you know it had its work cut out for it. The system was still great, however.
Wanna make us a list of essentials? ;)
How do Club Nintendo rewards work? Wouldn't mind getting Super Punch Out! really.
I'll make a mini-list if you want, just give me a bit. :D
Quote from: Comeau on October 31, 2012, 08:56:47 PM
How do Club Nintendo rewards work? Wouldn't mind getting Super Punch Out! really.
Do you have a Club Nintendo account yet? If you do just skip the first few steps.
1) Go to clubnintendo.com
2) Create an account
3) Get coins by registering games you own
4) Spend coins on the site by either buying merchandise with the coins, or instead getting games
5) Click on the game you want in the Get Games & Rewards section
6) Coins are spent and a download voucher is received
7) Go to the Wii shop on your Wii and redeem your code
8 ) Download the game and enjoy
They seem to offer two games a month, one of which changes every fifteen days or so. I'm glad they do since I have a bunch of backlogged coins that I otherwise wouldn't spend.
I do have a Club Nintendo account, but I don't use it much. I just registered my 3DS XL and got 160 points for it. Gonna register The Last Story, Xenoblade, Super Mario 3D Land, Mario Galaxy 2, New Super Mario Bros 2, Mario Kart 7, and Sonic Generations. Also have a whole bunch of VC games that apparently can be registered, Jesus.
I've been meaning to ask, do you only get Club Nintendo points for Nintendo-made games? Those are the only ones I've registered so far, which is why I'm wondering.
The Turbografx-16 is probably the best "one system wonder" there is as Hudson's only system. It was mostly a haven for shmups, but there are some gems in every genre and a few of which we never got over here (like Double Dragon II which is supposed to be great), but to keep it simple I'll try to mention games you can actually get either via the VC or PSN.
Air Zonk
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fd%2Fdf%2FAirZonk.jpg&hash=861e4f4d37c5b4d2d4362c8474f8862e842a1582)
Air Zonk is schmup, but it is amazingly weird, bent, and cartoony. It's also completely easy for anyone to get into, making it a great game even for those without a love for the genre. Personally, I prefer old school shmups (Pre-Radiant Silvergun) before they started relying too much on strange scoring systems and gimmicks and this is one of the best.
Ys Book I & II
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fe%2Fe1%2FYs_Book_1_%2526_2.jpg&hash=64b09f66cad73d58b448dc20c298a9cd8e7b7383)
Again, this is like Zelda 1 meets Final Fantasy 1 with the simplest, yet most addictive, way of fighting monsters yet put into a game. You ram into your enemies at angles. The story is a simple fairy-tale yet done with an air of mystique about it which the simple writing helps to mask even more. The series became really popular, but IMO, this is still one of the best entries in it.
Bonk's Revenge
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fd%2Fd9%2FBonk%2527s_Revenge_cover.jpg&hash=b357611ad17804cde97b1dbc7ef97a34bb25b6ea)
The original Bonk's Adventure was good, but a little dry for my taste. This sequel basically fixes the issues from the original by making the level design a lot more varied and rich, and the game is great for it. Bonk III is good too, but this is the best entry.
Castlevania: Rondo Of Blood [Dracula X]
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2F2%2F2e%2FDracula_x_%2528j%2529_front.jpg&hash=a1ad9c3037e2d27518c5c9cd43c0de41a0ac4b3f)
The prequel to SOTN, this is probably the best Castlevania game. If for any reason other than the jumping finally works well, but the superb level design, weapons, unlocks, and soundtrack, make this probably the best TG16 game, too. Basically, if you're a classic gamer, you shouldn't pass this up.
Bomberman '94
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fc%2Fc7%2FMega_Bomberman.jpg&hash=6cc8da86c846517d3ce883a1fc630c00ec09f834)
*Yeah, I can't find a cover of the TG-16 version*
Bomberman '94 has probably one of the best single player modes in the series adding animals and environmental puzzles to the game, yet still manages to retain the mutiplayer charm in single play- which is a pretty good feat considering. Honestly, this is the best Bomberman game you can get on any download service to date and probably the only one you need (fans like me notwithstanding) until someone either releases Saturn Bomberman or Hi-Ten Bomberman.
Blazing Lazers
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fb%2Fba%2FBlazing_Lazers_boxart.jpg&hash=eb93854f6fcbcaad8747105f9370537db409aac9)
There are few traditional space shooters that I personally would always recommend every time (GUN NAC, Axelay, and R-Type 1 aside), but Blazing Lazers is staunchly traditional in every aspect, yet manages to somehow avoid the tedium most games of its type tend to fal into. The game has perfect difficulty, great level design, and fun power ups... and it was released on the VC at the same time as Streets Of Rage 2 and DKC2 yet its just as great which shows you how good it is.
Dragon's Curse
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fb%2Fbe%2FWonder_Boy_III_-_The_Dragon%2527s_Trap_boxart.jpg&hash=85dc73ad6d04769cf33d5f4e6b26d88258347f48)
*Again, the TG16 version is way better*
This is a Metroidvania game with a platforming and Zelda II bent. While most debate what the best version of each Wonderboy game is, this is easily the best version of Wonderboy III with a great soundtrack, simplistic direction (getting lost isn't going to happen too much) and clever transformations make it a great game to start with in the series.
Lords Of Thunder
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2F4%2F44%2FLords_of_Thunder_Coverart.png&hash=600674434869d7598dd1edf45b99efd44d480ae2)
The schmup made for Avaitor. With epic metal music playing over gorgeous 2D animated fantasy backgrounds, a great weapon system, Mega Man style level selection, and diabolical bosses, this is probably the best non-traditional shmup there is. I know I've listed three of them so far, but they are all quite different, and all worth playing.
New Adventure Island
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2F6%2F67%2FNewadventisle.jpg&hash=fda09346fb44a20770b1f0b36f06a96fb9d2cae0)
Adventure Island games are hard to recommend because of how simple platformers they are, but this one is also the hardest without question. While the original is the most well known, and II and III open up the gameplay more, this game is almost like the Lost Levels for Adventure Island only less cheap and more plain hard. If you like the genre, don't miss out on this one.
Ninja Spirit
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fd%2Fda%2FNinja_Spirit_Cover.jpg&hash=ded322ce9c851b166b5e7139748e79659e46a7f8)
Unfortunately, this might have been removed from download services recently, but either way this is a great action platformer. If you can imagine the original Legend Of Kage (the bad one, not the good DS sequel) improved and mixed with Ninja Gaiden then you'd be close. Sort of like the Neutopia games fill in the gaps between Zelda 1 and ALTTP, this game feels like the link between pre-Ninja Gaiden ninja games and what they became with games like Shinobi, Ninja Gaiden, and other such games.
That is what I would consider the ten best games that I've played on the system. Lord Dalek might have other choices, though.
Quote from: Avaitor on October 31, 2012, 09:32:44 PM
I've been meaning to ask, do you only get Club Nintendo points for Nintendo-made games? Those are the only ones I've registered so far, which is why I'm wondering.
A few third party games have codes with them, but all VC games and eshop games regardless of who made them get coins now it seems.
As always, great list! I needed this to get some ides for what to download next. ;)
I think you'd like those ones. But man, I wish someone would bring over that version of Double Dragon II.
I could do one for the Neo Geo, too, if you like. Though it might be a bit too fighter heavy. :D
Sounds good!
The Neo Geo was the "master race" of gaming back in the mid-90s, featuring 100% faithful arcade ports that blew away every system at the time and a hefty price tag, the Neo Geo was and is something few gamers actually got to experience despite how much they wanted to play it.
Metal Slug X
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2F4%2F4d%2FMetal_Slug_X.png&hash=473058e4c55b94292e05e9e66ee889d245ff085a)
This is where to start with Metal Slug. If you like Contra, then there is no chance you won't think this game is amazing. There isn't much to say except play it!
The Last Blade 2
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fthumb%2F2%2F23%2FLast_Blade_%2528cover%2529.jpg%2F412px-Last_Blade_%2528cover%2529.jpg&hash=6989f1939b206a136e5f6b08cfe05276621d64b1)
Oh wow, weapon fighters rarely get better than this. In many ways this feels like Rurouni Kenshin if it was made a fighting game.
Ninja Commando
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2F1%2F10%2FNinja_Commando_Cover.jpg&hash=50d1130173fdda6529e24f867da3d43f3531fbfc)
So there's like these ninjas traveling through time fighting other ninjas and things blow up. Nobody has ever played this game, it seems, but it is fantastic.
Real Bout Fatal Fury Special
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2F6%2F6c%2FReal_Bout_Special_%2528cover%2529.jpg&hash=b3e3219f74e69df16f295f535cf795dbe30ef219)
This feels like the middle-ground between SFII and Garou a game that is as simple as SFII yet has a flow almost as good as Garou. Really, this is one of the best fighters out there, IMO, and probably the best Fatal Fury game that isn't Mark Of The Wolves.
Shock Troopers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cYxVePm3w6o (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=cYxVePm3w6o)
Watch that video and tell me you don't want to play that right now.
King Of Fighters '98
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fd%2Fd5%2FThe_King_of_Fighters_98_-_poster.jpg&hash=aa17e7ad95b1e8a2569d7aa0a68424f4352d31ad)
There are a few team battle fighting games out there, but... few are better than this one. The insane roster, the great grooves, and sweet graphics make this still one of the series peaks. Unfortunately, it's not on the VC yet but hopefully that will change soon enough.
Top Hunter
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arcade-museum.com%2Fimages%2F118%2F1181242183210.png&hash=0279770d9fa9cf39e252a33864c125e6df368eec)
This is sort of like an arcade platformer with plain switching like Fatal Fury thrown in. It's not quite as perfect as it could be, but it is well worth playing.
Sengoku 3
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.arcade-museum.com%2Fimages%2F105%2F1050866779.jpg&hash=e2f61056d6eff7c9d75b2602551d7cdf64ded914)
This is apparently one of the best beat em ups ever. I say 'apparently' because I have yet to get my hands on it and it has never been re-released, but I will mention it in hopes others will play it.
Garou: Mark Of The Wolves
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fe%2Fe8%2FGarou_MotW_NeoGeo_cover.jpg&hash=491f6c4cbb9d53bc65d903fcbc3b49740cbc79c6)
IMO, probably the best one on one fighter yet made. Unfortunately it has only been re-released on XBLA so far, so unless you have a Dreamcast playing it will be quite hard.
Metal Slug 3
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2F5%2F55%2FMetal_Slug_3.png&hash=b648004b553108e8c1f90c214e34dacc770c5e2a)
I'll end it with a bang. Basically take Metal Slug and throw in more everything. More paths, more enemies, and more action, and you have my personal favorite Neo Geo game. Though playing X first should be a priority, otherwise the scope of this can't really be appreciated as much.
There are a lot of other great games for the system, but these are ones I like the most for the system. IMO, you can't go wrong with any of them.
Also great!
Now I just gotta get a Wii points card or two and bump up my collection. :drool:
Yeah, I'm grabbing a few for when I get my Wii-U and can take them off my SD card. It would be nice to have a legal and easily accessible retro game collection.
Would you happen to know if the XBLA version of Garuo: Mark of the Wolves is any good? I was considering checking it out after I beat Castlevania: SOTN.
Also, I'm open to any recommendations of classic 2D fighters to play that are available via XBLA.
I'll take the same recommendation for classic games available via XBLA in general, but more along the lines of what I would probably like, such as action/adventure and/or platforming. I know that there was that Monster World collection that you recommended, but I don't know much about what those games are like, and I'm trying to consider my options for other classic games available via XBLA as well.
Garou: Mark Of The Wolves, King Of Fighters '98, Neo Geo Battle Coliseum, and King Of Fighters '02 are all on XBLA and worth playing. The online is terrible, though.
You can also pick up Metal Slug 3, Streets Of Rage Collection, Perfect Dark, Banjo Kazooie, DOOM II, and Monster World Collection (these are Metroidvania games, though you should start with Monster World IV) are probably the best classic games you can get on the service.
I think Samurai Shodown II might be there as well, but I don't have that version.
I'd check out Garou as well. If it ever gets put up on PSN that is. :bleh:
I didn't need Neo Geo had arcade perfect ports.
I'm pretty sure I played Shock Troopers at gametap back when gametap was good. It was horribly slow on the computer I played it on so I don't have much to say about it.
I have to say, I tend to forget just how good Mega Man 2 is, until I replay it.
I figured you guy would like to see this. (http://oldgamemags.tumblr.com/post/35600055140/nintendo-power-issue-21-may-1990-the-nintendo)
Has anyone here actually used R.O.B.? I've never seen one in action, and I'm kind of curious if its something really worth pursuing.
I found these video reviews of the 2 best wrestling games ever made, the latter of which is easily one of the best N64 games ever made:
Wrestlemania 2000 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LWswBCH5gOE&feature=plcp)
and
No Mercy (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmVr-ecRm_4&feature=relmfu)
I find it funny that No Mercy, a game made well over a decade ago, is still allows far more freedom and customization than any wrestling game made today. That and the game actually had good controls....
And THQ is about to go out of business, too.
That we will never (at this rate) get a sequel to No Mercy is still one of the worst parts about this company.
Unfortunately, the lackluster wrestling games that they were making up until now have been one of the few things that sell fairly well for them (obviously not enough to save them from going bankrupt, but still much better than what they deserve), so they clearly saw no reason to change it. I find it to be a shame that they went with such an overly complex and frustrating more than fun combat system for most wrestling games since last-gen. The whole wrestling game formula was perfected with Wrestlemania 2000 and refined even further with No Mercy. I always expected future wrestling games to go in that direction, but I guess the developers that took over the franchise after AKI never played either of those games.
Also, the story mode in No Mercy deserves special praise. They went all out and had story-lines for each title/championship, and each one of those had branching paths and were even altered a little bit depending on which character you picked (or if you used your own created character, which I did for all of the stories in that game, myself).
I never understood why they ditched AKI in the first place when their games were million sellers and critical favorites. Smackdown never came close to being as fun or as smooth as AKI's games, and that they've changed very little since the PS1 does little to me when people hype them up.
I was expecting SOMEONE to pick them up and make a proper No Mercy sequel, but that ALSO never happened.
The whole thing is just one huge missed opportunity.
Well, THQ held the monopoly on the WWF/E license ever since the N64/PS1 generation of games, so nobody else ever had a chance to pick up the development of the games except for who THQ allowed to do it. I'm just ticked off that the best wrestling formula was just flat-out forgotten about and abandoned. I actually tried a bit of WWE '13 which one of my friends owns since he's a fan of wrestling, and I personally found it a chore to play. The mechanics seemed needlessly complex (at least to me) compared to the streamlined controls of No Mercy, and the gameplay felt way more limiting and restrictive than that game did. The system for doing reversals is also garbage, as is the system for doing special moves in that game, IMO.
Honestly, the only 2 things I felt were missing from No Mercy were Hell in a Cell matches and Table matches. Other than that, the game literally had everything you could possibly think of that would belong in a wrestling game....and more.
I remember that my older brother as well as my cousin, along with myself, used to play triple threat and tag-team matches in that game for hours upon hours. It may very well be the most time we ever spent together playing a multiplayer game in our childhoods, and we played a lot of games together back then.
Weren't there TLC matches in No Mercy? I know there were ladder matches, but I thought there were also table matches.
But yeah, I agree about how it would be nice to have an up to date game with the same system as No Mercy. No Mercy was a game made for anyone that wrestling fans could also enjoy, and we haven't had a game like it since.
Also, I like that there were no announcers. The music was far more exciting than repetitive sound bites that got old after fifteen minutes of play.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on November 21, 2012, 09:48:57 PM
Weren't there TLC matches in No Mercy? I know there were ladder matches, but I thought there were also table matches.
You could slam people through tables (though not the regular kind, but rather only the announce table or the pool table in the bar), but there were no actual table matches.
QuoteAlso, I like that there were no announcers. The music was far more exciting than repetitive sound bites that got old after fifteen minutes of play.
Well, to be honest there was only one music track that played throughout every match, and that itself got old really quick, however the game was so much fun to actually play that you barely noticed it, anyways. Also, I believe there was an option to turn off the music if you really wanted to, anyways.
The create a character feature in that game also deserves a ton of praise. I was a fan of wrestling back in the Attitude Era, so I remember that I ended up creating pretty decent clones of wrestling characters that I liked that weren't featured in this game's roster thanks to its versatile create a character system (though obviously I couldn't emulate most of their signature movies). I was a little ticked off that this game didn't have a Super Kick, for instance, when Wrestlemania 2000 (the first game) did, but either way it was still the better of the 2 games with all of the improvements it brought to the table. Its definitely the high point of wrestling games, to be sure.
That was one thing WCW/NWO Revenge did better and that was how there were like 6 different themes. The Starcade theme is still my most favorite wrestling theme.
I did enjoy that I could pretty much create ANY character I wanted with the create-a-character feature. It made the roster the best in any wrestling game by far, and all my friends pretty much got into wrestling through these games.
For me, I got into Wrestlemania 2000 and this game because I used to be a wrestling fan, but its very telling of No Mercy's quality that I still love this game to death even long after my interest in wrestling faded.
Yeah, the best sports games can even hook non-fans of the sport. It's probably why sports games are so lame now, since they only cater to hardcore fans of the sports.
A day or two ago I got past the plane crash level and up to the underwater ship or whatever level in Perfect Dark. After I had to watch an overly long explosion cutscene because I got a special death special I didn't notice the extra tiny timer at the bottom of the screen and even though Elvis was running towards the exit (far too slowly), I had no way of getting there in time just like how I have a hard time finding almost all objectives in Perfect Dark. And yeah, fuck going right back and having to completely start the entire mission over after all of that. I'll probably continue the game again today though.
I just bought a Super Famicom, with a Japanese Super Game Boy, for 30 bucks. I'm not really sure what I'm going to do with it yet. It did come with two of the controllers with the pretty multicolor buttons though, and they do fit into my NA SNES.
You can get those Japanese platformers and RPGs we never got in NA! There are a few good ones out there, though I think we actually got a lot of the great ones.
Got to Spirit World on Doom II. Monster Condo gave me a bit of trouble. Is there seriously a chaingun enemy that can walk through walls and not be killed by the shotgun? I'm not sure if I was saying things or what but apparently I ran into twice and was slaughtered. Also, having half the level be dark didn't help. Thank God I knew where that one door was. I teleported to one area that looked identical to another one that was filled with those turtle-like(???) demons that shoot and when I ran into an unexpected teleporter, I thought that I was still in the same area and that they were brought back to life so I was confused. Took me a minute to figure out how to get out of that area. I think the area map helped.
Going back a page but if you enjoyed No Mercy and Wrestlemania 2000 I'd suggest you go pick up the GCN and PS2 Ultimate Muscle games since those were also developed by AKI. They have a similar control style with the wackiness turned up a lot. Aside from that there's WWE Day of Reckoning 1 and 2 which were pretty much a modernized No Mercy for the GameCube. The only trouble that game really gave me was with submission holds since I believe that's the game that introduced that system of wearing down a body part to successfully pull one off.
Quote from: Rosalinas Spare Wand on December 09, 2012, 06:14:54 PM
Going back a page but if you enjoyed No Mercy and Wrestlemania 2000 I'd suggest you go pick up the GCN and PS2 Ultimate Muscle games since those were also developed by AKI. They have a similar control style with the wackiness turned up a lot. Aside from that there's WWE Day of Reckoning 1 and 2 which were pretty much a modernized No Mercy for the GameCube. The only trouble that game really gave me was with submission holds since I believe that's the game that introduced that system of wearing down a body part to successfully pull one off.
Oh yeah, I had this game. It was pretty cool, though lacking a lot of the customization from the WCW/WWF games. I do still wish they were making wrestling games. They were the best at it, IMO.
I've tried some modern wrestling games. Maybe its just me (and it probably is), but I swear the combat in those games makes no flipping sense. I seem to randomly get prompts to do my character's special finisher without being able to tell how I can do it at will, and the ridiculously precise timing that they expect you to pull off in order to reverse moves is flat-out unreasonable. Why is it that a game over a decade old makes more sense from a gameplay standpoint than a modern game of the same genre? In No Mercy, it made perfect sense to me. You had a meter which showed your character's momentum and you built it up via successfully pulling off moves on your opponents in addition to taunting your opponent or getting the fans to chant for you through signature poses without getting interrupted by an attack. Once you're momentum meter reached its max point then you were temporarily in a state where you're enemies attacks would barely phase you and you could also pull off your special moves (of which you had various moves at your disposal, depending on the position you grappled you're opponent from). The reversal system was more of a random affair, but it at least made sense. You toggled the analogue stick to try and reverse your opponent's move when he grappled you, and if you had more momentum than they did at the time, then you're chance of reversing the attack was significantly higher. I thought that system worked fine enough, myself. Its not the most balanced combat, but it made perfect sense to me and was damn fun to play.
I've heard that some of the GCN, XBOX, and PS2 wrestling games did a good job of following in Wrestlemania 2000 and No Mercy's footsteps, but every since the Smackdown vs. Raw series started, the games have really gone down hill, IMO.
The first few Smackdown games (after the first) were decent enough, but they never fixed any flaws with the combat system. They just added more stuff and changed buttons around. Counters are always shoddy (in AKI games you could reverse ANYTHING with proper timing) in that judging attack distance is trial and error and most attacks are garbage. The games play like chores instead of being fluid like the AKI games.
I've heard people praise the Fire Pro games (which are basically Japan only), but I can't wrap my head around the lack of a grapple button. It makes it harder to do the moves you want when you want to.
1080 Snowboarding is the new Club Nintendo Reward.
Ugh, level 30 in Doom 2 is giving me Hell.
After hearing you can get Duke Nukem 3D free from GOG yesterday and seeing a comment about how much Duke improves on Doom 2's style of gameplay, I checked my XBLA demo to see if it has 4 episodes and I ended up playing the first level again after not touching it for awhile. I had to relearn how to play due to being brainwashed by the Doom games. I actual forgot about some things and was pleasantly surprised. Having a Y axis for with my crosshair aiming, a crounch button, a pistol that was not completely useless and items like the jetpack. zCons are how you run sucks, I don't think there's splitscreen co-op for some stupid reason and Duke can be a pussy with how he screams and takes damage from falling 2 feet. But anyway, all the pros I mentions cements that DN3D will be one of the next XBLA games I get.
In other news, after getting my ass kicked by him in Soul Calibur IV, my baby brother and me played Gunstar Heroes for the second time together. We couldn't get past Green's level when we tried the first time weeks ago, so I decided to tackle that first. Then we proceeded to go through the other 3 first levels with him beating Black by himself. I forgot about the level right after that, I thought the game goes to the spaceship level after the first 4. Anyway, this is the level I'm on now.
The 3DS card case is returning on Dec. 19th, guys. If you're looking for it, keep an eye out for that date!
NiGHTS Into Dreams is now available on Steam! Yay! :joy:
Anyone here have any opinion on the Retron 3 bootleg console? (http://sega-addicts.murnaumusic.com/?p=5202) I've been thinking about getting one myself once I have the money since it'd be cheaper than buying all three consoles individually, and the fact that it can apparently play Super Famicom games no problem has me interested too.
Wow, a console that plays NES, SNES, AND Genesis games? And it even defaults to my favorite controller for 2D games (the 6-button Sega controller)? Why haven't I heard about this before? It sounds too good to be true! ;D
One of my local Gorilla Games has one, but the kind that can only play NES and Genesis games for some reason. It's $70, and I was actually considering it.
Quote from: Avaitor on December 18, 2012, 11:48:10 PM
One of my local Gorilla Games has one, but the kind that can only play NES and Genesis games for some reason. It's $70, and I was actually considering it.
I'd avoid that, I think you'd be getting ripped off. Play N Trade here has the one that does all three for like $50.
I saw that on display at a small video game store, it worked really well from what I tried of it. It had SMB1, Sonic 2, and NHL '93, for each system and they all ran well with no hitches or control issues.
Quote from: Foggle on December 19, 2012, 12:07:41 AM
Quote from: Avaitor on December 18, 2012, 11:48:10 PM
One of my local Gorilla Games has one, but the kind that can only play NES and Genesis games for some reason. It's $70, and I was actually considering it.
I'd avoid that, I think you'd be getting ripped off. Play N Trade here has the one that does all three for like $50.
Yeah, sounds like it. Besides, I found a place at the flea market that can sell me an actual NES for $20, so I can go that route, too.
Those are pretty cool, but same as any clone, there is a few certain games that won't work on it. Most titles will work fine though, amongst the bigger titles I know Kirby's Adventure might have issues, I think there's a Castlevania that might not work as well. Also, I'd try and find some actual Nintendo and Sega controllers, I can't imagine using those cheapie things.
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I wasn't sure whether to post that in next-gen or here, but... come on, that is cool.
The PS2 has just been officially discontinued in Japan. I'm still stunned at how long this system has been on the shelves, but I think Sony deserves kudos for this system lasting as long as it has.
Yeah, its a system that still received some genuinely good support well past its own generation, even getting some big title releases well into the proceeding generation (for example, it got God of War II in 2007, which I'm not saying I'm a fan of, but it shows how relevant the system still was at that point). Its very telling that it still had a few years extra life-span in North America and Europe as well, where most gamers seem far more ready to just trash the older stuff in favor of what's newer, just BECAUSE its newer and they have the attention span of goldfish.
Also, it seems Japan's Game Center CX has entered the 16-bit generation with Sonic The Hedgehog (http://blip.tv/gamecenter-cx/gamecenter-cx-s09e01-sonic-the-hedgehog-somethingawfulgccx-5894927)...
So weird that it's in season 9 already.
Well, the PS2 is the best console ever, so... :sly:
Yeah, I was just about to say, the PS2 has to be one of the top 5 best consoles. Easily.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on December 30, 2012, 03:25:14 PM
Yeah, I was just about to say, the PS2 has to be one of the top 5 best consoles. Easily.
Despite what some jackasses here think, PS2 is one of the very best consoles of all time.
Anyway, today I tried Counter Operative for the first time in Perfect Dark and then the 3rd challenge in Combat Simulator, both with my baby brother.
I'd say the SNES is probably better, but I have over 25 games for the PS2 and I'm still discovering awesome ones I haven't played yet. (That's not even counting HD ports or the multiplatform titles I have on PC/GC). Plus, I just picked up a Japanese PS2 to play some of those delicious import-only games.
No other console even compares for me.
I'd list it at #6, myself.
The NES, SNES, Genesis, Dreamcast, and PS1, just do it better for me.
The PC is obviously the best. But if you don't want to count it, I'd say the PS2 only gets competition from the SNES, Genesis, PS1, and maybe NES.
Quote from: Foggle on December 30, 2012, 04:15:20 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on December 30, 2012, 03:53:40 PM
Quote from: talonmalon333 on December 30, 2012, 03:51:11 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on December 30, 2012, 03:48:54 PM
Despite what some jackasses here think
Who?
One of them just posted beneath me. :humhumhum:
What? I love the PS2. :cry:
Dunno, man. Sometimes he's just spiteful.
But yeah, it's a great system. I do like the PS1 better for Sony systems, but the PS2 does have a solid wall of quality that's very hard to ignore.
The jackasses are Spark and EK, not Foggle.
I fail to see how listing it at #6 is a bad thing.
Just that I think Sony had one better console and both Sega and Nintendo had two better.
The SNES bashes the PS2 to bits and dumps all of its broken pieces in a trash can. I mean, I'm not denying that the PS2 is great, but honestly it doesn't come even close to the SNES for me. Maybe its because I find that a lot of the highest rated titles on the PS2 are kind of overrated, and quite a few stuff that I enjoyed or some other great games on the PS2 got overlooked (stuff like Shinobi and God Hand flew under the radar while higher-budget games like God of War stole their spotlight, IMO).
Despite that, I still think that the PS2 is a great console. I like it better than the PS1 (and yes, I actually did own a PS1), and it was miles better than the XBOX and GameCube to me, but maybe I'm just biased for the 16-bit generation since that's what I grew up with, but the thing is even now I've discovered a ton of games that I never played in my childhood for the SNES today, and even just playing them in the past few years, I find that they hold up remarkably well.
Also, if we're going by last-gen consoles, then I'd say I also preferred the Dreamcast over the PS2, since I'm a guy about quality over quantity, and many of the best games that the DC had trump the best games that I've played on the PS2, even if the PS2 has more games overall and thus more good games, IMO. Also, while I'm at it, I like the Sega Genesis better than the PS2 as well, as I have discovered a lot of gems for that console which I never previously knew about, despite the fact that I actually owned a Genesis myself (I was one of the few kids who had both an SNES and a Genesis, and now I can barely afford one console per generation....times sure have changed).
Based on that logic, I'd say that I'd rank the PS2 as the 4th best console of all time. But that's just my opinion.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on December 30, 2012, 05:33:28 PM
Also, if we're going by last-gen consoles, then I'd say I also preferred the Dreamcast over the PS2, since I'm a guy about quality over quantity
The PS2
definitely has both. (And so does the Dreamcast.)
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on December 30, 2012, 05:33:28 PM
many of the best games that the DC had trump the best games that I've played on the PS2
Please list them! I need more DC games.
And EK proves that he is in fact the only jackass here.
Quote from: Foggle on December 30, 2012, 06:45:38 PM
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on December 30, 2012, 05:33:28 PM
many of the best games that the DC had trump the best games that I've played on the PS2
Please list them! I need more DC games.
Blue Stinger.
Quote from: gunswordfist on December 30, 2012, 07:10:16 PM
And EK proves that he is in fact the only jackass here.
Because I don't agree with your opinion and it makes you sad since you need people to constantly agree with you to believe that you're right? Yeah, that pretty much explains you in a nutshell.
Quote from: Foggle on December 30, 2012, 06:45:38 PM
Please list them! I need more DC games.
Soul Reaver (better than the PS1 version)
Jet Grind Radio
Grandia II
Skies of Arcadia
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 (once again, best version of the game)
Chu Chu Rocket! (Its far better than the title makes it sound, believe me)
Soul Calibur (Amazing port from the arcade)
Dead or Alive 2
Marvel vs. Capcom 1 & 2 (once again, terrific ports)
Power Stone 1 & 2
Virtua Tennis (And believe me, I do NOT typically care for sports games, but this one is just too good)
Crazy Taxi
Those are just a list of some of my personal favorites on the Dreamcast that I have actually played (and it was back at a time when I actually did really like to play RPGs). There are still a ton of great games on that system which I never experienced back when I had one. Some day I'll go back to the DC to hunt down those titles as well.
Chances are if it was a game on the PS1 or N64 (or PS2 in some cases) the Dreamcast version is the best version. Rayman 2, for instance.
Also, look into Outtrigger, Bangai-O, Cannon Spike, Berserk (It's decent enough, fans will get a kick out of it), Zombie Revenge, Dynamite Cop!, and the DC version of Sonic Adventure 1.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on December 30, 2012, 09:30:23 PM
Soul Reaver (better than the PS1 version)
Jet Grind Radio
Grandia II
Skies of Arcadia
Tony Hawk's Pro Skater 2 (once again, best version of the game)
Chu Chu Rocket! (Its far better than the title makes it sound, believe me)
Soul Calibur (Amazing port from the arcade)
Dead or Alive 2
Marvel vs. Capcom 1 & 2 (once again, terrific ports)
Power Stone 1 & 2
Virtua Tennis (And believe me, I do NOT typically care for sports games, but this one is just too good)
Crazy Taxi
Hmm, I've played most of those games, and wouldn't consider any of them to be better than most of the good PS2 games I've played. But to each their own, of course.
I'll be playing Skies of Arcadia with Jay soon, and I know that's gonna' be a great one.
Quote from: Foggle on December 30, 2012, 10:09:41 PM
Hmm, I've played most of those games, and wouldn't consider any of them to be better than most of the good PS2 games I've played. But to each their own, of course.
Power Stone 2 IS better than ANY of the good PS2 games out there. :srs:
Well, OK, except for DMC3, God Hand, and maybe just a few other games. But seriously, Power Stone 2 is such a fucking underrated gem. Its easily one of the most "genuinely" addicting gaming experiences I've ever had with any game.
Alright, for a more serious response, I personally like most of the games that I've listed more than a lot of the PS2 games that I've played because quite simply I find that most of those great PS2 games that everyone raves about are kind of overrated and on occasion downright boring. Personally, I'd easily take most of those DC games that I listed over a majority of the popular games from the PS2 library. To me, stuff like God Hand, DMC3, and Ratchet and Clank are the stand-out titles, but there aren't a whole lot of PS2 games near that level of quality from what I've played (and I have tried a bunch of PS2 games, despite never owning one myself, thanks to my friends).
I've tried and just can't get into any of the God of War games, I don't like what I've played of either Kingdom Hearts game on the PS2, I don't care about Final Fantasy, Okami was overrated (IMO), Shadow of the Colossus is EXTREMELY overrated, I didn't like MGS2 (and it got ported to the XBOX, anyways), and since I was no longer into JRPGs by that point (which made up quite a good chunk of the PS2's highest-rated games), all of those pretty much went to waste on me.
From my perspective (and I know that I'm in the minority on this one), the PS2 has a sizable quantity of good games, but very few of them are truly great from what I've played. Then again, I'm a guy who got used to not being able to afford to buy a ton of games (I mainly used to rely on renting them), so I often judged games based on their lasting appeal, as I was forced to replay a lot of my favorite games over and over again rather than just get new ones. I found that I just wasn't motivated to replay some good PS2 games once I finished them. Examples include Onimusha II, Soul Calibur III (thanks to a terrible replacement for mission mode, making me glad that this was the only PS2 exclusive SC game since I wasn't missing much by not being able to own it), and even the GTA games which I used to like a lot, but never felt like pursuing many of the side-missions and was typically done once I finished the main story-line.
That said, it probably sounds like I'm trashing the PS2, but no, I think its a great console and now that I have access to my brother's PS2, I still plan on hunting down a lot of classics on the system that I missed out on. I just feel that what I've played on that system that's considered to be among its best aren't really in the realm of "greatness" as much as they are just "pretty good."
As for the Dreamcast games I listed, stuff like Power Stone 2 and Jet Grind Radio have near infinite replay value and are insanely creative, which also helped them age better than a lot of other games from last generation in general.
And those games are listed are just ones I've played (there are other ones as well, but I can't recall them right now). There are a shit-ton of other games from the DC that were really highly rated but have since fallen into the realm of obscurity, so there are still a ton of classics I have yet to discover, myself.
I forgot to mention that either way, though, this is kind of a moot point for me in regard to which is the best console ever, because I still say that the SNES wins hands down, at least in terms of catering to my personal taste in games.
Well everyone knows my favorite genres are 2D platformers, arcade games (not just ports), and the occasional niche game. The Dreamcast offers way more of the latter two and the NES, Genesis, and SNES offer way more of all of them.
I also really enjoy how the PS1 had early experimental 3D games as well as classic 2D style games on top of it.
the PS2 had a lot of great games, but most really didn't appeal to me that much. That said, with so many games it kind of has to be a great console. Everybody was making games for it. But as a whole I tend to prefer what came on other systems.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on December 30, 2012, 09:13:37 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on December 30, 2012, 07:10:16 PM
And EK proves that he is in fact the only jackass here.
Because I don't agree with your opinion and it makes you sad since you need people to constantly agree with you to believe that you're right? Yeah, that pretty much explains you in a nutshell.
At least I didn't think the Sonic Adventure games were better than the best 2D ones while having little experience playing said 2D classics. :sly:
Quote from: gunswordfist on December 31, 2012, 11:45:35 AM
At least I didn't think the Sonic Adventure games were better than the best 2D ones while having little experience playing said 2D classics. :sly:
Uh, I grew up with the 2D games, dumb-shit. Granted that I didn't play much of Sonic 3 & Knuckles when I was a kid, but I played the hell out of Sonic and Sonic 2 on the Sega Genesis, which I actually owned, and still owned while I had a Dreamcast and played Sonic Adventure.
Yup, now you looks even dumber than before (if that's even possible) granted how flat-out wrong your information is. Get your facts straight before posting your usual nonsense, shit-for-brains. :>
You just proved I was right after said you barely played S3&K back then :sly:
I just beat Doom 2 about 15 minutes ago. That was...anti-climatic. I had no clue why the hell I was still fighting demons after how much shit I fucked up in Icon Of Sin. I'm guessing episode 2 was an expansion pack or something because man was I disappointed after I beat that. :D
Well, I mean, I like all of those games you listed, E-K. They're definitely great. But I just can't get the same longevity out of arcade and fighting games that I can out of stuff like R&C, Fatal Frame, God Hand, etc. Though I haven't played any of the RPGs yet and I do own (and love) Soul Reaver on PC. ;)
Spark, recommend me some PS1 games. I already have my eyes set on Strider 2, Tomba 2 and Brave Fencer.
Quote from: gunswordfist on January 01, 2013, 12:11:49 AM
Spark, recommend me some PS1 games. I already have my eyes set on Strider 2, Tomba 2 and Brave Fencer.
What genre?
Silent Bomber
Trap Gunner
One
Legend Of Mana
Gekido
Suikoden 1 & 2
Vandal Hearts
Rival Schools
Bushido Blade
Wild 9
Heart Of Darkness
Valkyrie Profile
Since I'm pretty sure you know Crash, Spyro, Mega Man X4, Final Fantasy, and the obvious ones I didn't bother mentioning them. The PS1 is a great system for having so many weird experimental games but also having classic style games at the same time.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on January 01, 2013, 01:13:22 AM
Quote from: gunswordfist on January 01, 2013, 12:11:49 AM
Spark, recommend me some PS1 games. I already have my eyes set on Strider 2, Tomba 2 and Brave Fencer.
What genre?
Silent Bomber
Trap Gunner
One
Legend Of Mana
Gekido
Suikoden 1 & 2
Vandal Hearts
Rival Schools
Bushido Blade
Wild 9
Heart Of Darkness
Valkyrie Profile
Since I'm pretty sure you know Crash, Spyro, Mega Man X4, Final Fantasy, and the obvious ones I didn't bother mentioning them. The PS1 is a great system for having so many weird experimental games but also having classic style games at the same time.
Genre doesn't matter. PS1 has some good variety.
I was just thinking about Gekido. My brothers and me wanted that game pretty badly.
Quote from: gunswordfist on December 31, 2012, 02:56:17 PM
You just proved I was right after said you barely played S3&K back then :sly:
How the hell does that prove you are right? You said little experience with the classic 2D games in general. That would imply that I haven't played or barely played ANY of the classic 2D Sonic games, when in fact I grew up with and played the hell out of the first 2 games, especially Sonic 2, which is apparently you're favorite 2D platformer. So in other words, learn better English, dick-cheese.
Also, you're the dumbass who blindly believes Sonic 2 is still the best Sonic game out there. Any idiot not blinded by nostalgia can tell you that Sonic 3 & Knuckles is clearly better. Your persistence on saying that Sonic 2 is your favorite despite its direct sequel trumping it in every way possible shows that you are a hopeless idiot with no taste. :>
The best Sonic game is Labyrinth. You know it, I know it, we all know it.
I like Sonic Advance.
Sonic Crackers is where it's at!
I'm continuing Ultra-Violence on Doom. I actually found Episode 2's secret level myself after contemplating looking online for all the game's secrets. It was nothing special. I'm on the level after that...and I died because I blew myself up
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on January 01, 2013, 01:25:39 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on December 31, 2012, 02:56:17 PM
You just proved I was right after said you barely played S3&K back then :sly:
How the hell does that prove you are right? You said little experience with the classic 2D games in general. That would imply that I haven't played or barely played ANY of the classic 2D Sonic games, when in fact I grew up with and played the hell out of the first 2 games, especially Sonic 2, which is apparently you're favorite 2D platformer. So in other words, learn better English, dick-cheese.
Also, you're the dumbass who blindly believes Sonic 2 is still the best Sonic game out there. Any idiot not blinded by nostalgia can tell you that Sonic 3 & Knuckles is clearly better. Your persistence on saying that Sonic 2 is your favorite despite its direct sequel trumping it in every way possible shows that you are a hopeless idiot with no taste. :>
Back then, you haven't played any of Sonic CD either, so my point stands. :sly:
Quote from: gunswordfist on January 01, 2013, 02:53:19 PM
Sonic Crackers is where it's at!
Dude, that game was canceled. Because it sucked. It's not the best Sonic...
Quote from: Foggle on January 01, 2013, 01:32:31 PM
The best Sonic game is Labyrinth. You know it, I know it, we all know it.
But this choice is fine.
Sonic Crackers became Knuckles Chaotix which is a decent little platformer.
Sonic Advance is better, though.
QuoteBack then, you haven't played any of Sonic CD either, so my point stands. :sly:
A LOT of people hadn't played Sonic CD back then. Not everyone was as stupid as you as to waste money on a near worthless peripheral for the Genesis.
Also, Sonic CD doesn't play like the other classic Sonic games. So no, your point is shit. I've played the hell out of the first 2 Sonic games, so either way you look a it, that's not "little experience" with the classic games. I owned them and beat them both multiple times. Sonic 2 is in fact the most recognized of the classic Sonic games since it came bundled with the Sega Genesis at one point (that's how I was introduced to it, and later I bought Sonic 1 since I liked Sonic 2 so much).
It looks like someone just can't admit when they're dead wrong. Its alright, GSF, everybody already knows you're an idiot, so its not like you have any face to lose here by admitting you don't know what the fuck you're talking about.
:lol: You guys missed blatant sarcasm. Spark and talon, talon's quote to is exactly why what I said about Sonic Crackers was a joke.
Quote from: gunswordfist on January 01, 2013, 03:48:15 PM
:lol: You guys missed blatant sarcasm. Spark and talon, talon's quote to is exactly why what I said about Sonic Crackers was a joke.
Do you understand the words "troll just got trolled"? Probably not, considering you're GSF and all that. But yeah, that's how it is.
You're failing all over the place lately, aren't you?
I"m sure Spark was serious, though.
I'm confused.
For less than $5, I got cartridges of Donkey Kong Country, Killer Instinct, and an unopened vinyl copy of Fair Warning at GoodWill. I'd call this a good day.
:thumbup:
They also had F-Zero, but I passed because I thought the games were $5 each, which is still really good, but I couldn't afford to shell out that much today. When it turned out that they were $2 each, I wanted to go back and get it, but it was too late.
I may just have to go back tomorrow.
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:huh:
Love the color of the one that's simply "SEGA". :joy:
They gotta' be taking the piss with those prices, though.
Probably more than the new Neo Geo, too.
I forgot to mention that Club Nintendo this month is Mario Tennis 64 and Super Punch Out for the Wii VC and Kid Icarus 3D Classics and Starship Defense for the 3DS.
This month's club nintendo rewards:
Super Mario 64 (Wii)
Super Metroid (Wii)
Kirby's Pinball Land (3DS)
Urban Champion 3D Classics (3DS)
I was hoping for Yoshi Story so I could have an inexpensive way to play it once again. I already have the three good games. :sweat:
I'm only like, 10 points away from being able to hit up Super Metroid. Shit.
Well you have about a month. I'm sure you can find something cheap like Wario Land or Kirby or whatever. You'd be surprised at how many used copies contain working Club Nintendo codes.
>complains about being 10 points short to get free download of Super Metroid on Club Nintendo
>gets an e-mail for a Club Nintendo survey worth 10 free points
Life has its moments, sometimes.
The system works!
:thumbup:
Super Metroid is more than worth it.
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Since Ninty won't put snes/Genesis stuff on the 3DS VC, this is the next best thing.
This month's coin rewards:
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Let's see how fast I can win 200 points.
I've been thinking, why did it take so long for 4 player splitscreen multiplayer to be the norm for home consoles? Sony didn't have 4 player until last gen. Also, it sucked that a little bit too much SNES/Genesis games missed out on 4 players. Which reminds me, I wish we somehow got a TMNT IV remake with the arcade version's 4 players feature and production values and the SNES version's extra features. A TMNT 3 remake with no slow down and 4's art direction would be nice too.
Systems weren't advanced enough until the PS2 generation. Even the N64 and PS1 chugged a lot with 4 players and could barely run them.
That's the basic reason.
Spark, did you see the concept art Backbone made for Streets of Rage and ESWAT?
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/05/06/new-streets-of-rage-and-eswat-games-were-being-pitched-to-sega/
Backbone's questionable record aside, I really like the way ESWAT looked. It reminds me of Hard Corps and Double Dragon Neon. A shame Sega isn't willing to take risks on downloadable remakes nowadays.
Quote from: Rosalinas Spare Wand on May 07, 2013, 05:15:22 PM
Spark, did you see the concept art Backbone made for Streets of Rage and ESWAT?
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/05/06/new-streets-of-rage-and-eswat-games-were-being-pitched-to-sega/
Backbone's questionable record aside, I really like the way ESWAT looked. It reminds me of Hard Corps and Double Dragon Neon. A shame Sega isn't willing to take risks on downloadable remakes nowadays.
That is literally the fourth official attempt to make a new official Streets Of Rage game. Why Sega can't do it is beyond me.
E-Swat is an idea just begging for a new game. It's simple and straightforward and even has a built in hard mode (don't transform) that could be used effectively.
But then that's always been Sega's biggest weakpoint. They never utilize their franchises well.
Quote from: Rosalinas Spare Wand on May 07, 2013, 05:15:22 PM
Spark, did you see the concept art Backbone made for Streets of Rage and ESWAT?
http://www.siliconera.com/2013/05/06/new-streets-of-rage-and-eswat-games-were-being-pitched-to-sega/
Backbone's questionable record aside, I really like the way ESWAT looked. It reminds me of Hard Corps and Double Dragon Neon. A shame Sega isn't willing to take risks on downloadable remakes nowadays.
I'm pretty sure Backbone wasn't responsible for the superior SVC ports and I'm still mad at them for not letting Sonic 3 and S&K have the lockon feature in SUGC. Erm anyway, that Eswat screen looked awesome!
Games I wish these studios were making:
Konami:
1. Contra Hard Corps 2 (with 4 players)
2. New 2D Castlevania/Symphony Of The Night HD remake
3. RKA5
4. Bomberman with a story mode and multiplayer levels that are actually good)
5. 6 player TMNT (Yeah, I know they no longer have the license)
Sega:
1. New Classic Sonic
2. Another Allstars racing but with a story mode like CTR's
3. Streets Of Rage 4/SOR1 remake
4. Gunstar Heroes 2 with 4 players (Yellow and Green. Give Green an evil boss twin named Dark Green or something. Plus a 4th weapon type and a punch button and a separate button for defense mode)
5. Golden Axe arcade sequel
Capcom:
1. Powerstone 3
2. DMC5
3. Sweet Home 2
4. Capcom vs SNK 3
5. New 2D Final Fight
Quote from: gunswordfist1. Contra Hard Corps 2 (with 4 players)
Would Hard Corps. Uprising count? It's more of a prequel, but it does take place in the same universe and has 4-player support.
And I second Bomberman and DMC 5.
I second Power Stone 3, even though it'll never happen.
Quote from: Rynnec on May 12, 2013, 04:37:54 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist1. Contra Hard Corps 2 (with 4 players)
Would Hard Corps. Uprising count? It's more of a prequel, but it does take place in the same universe and has 4-player support.
And I second Bomberman and DMC 5.
I didn't know it was an actual prequel (or that it had 4 player,hmmm). I meant an actual sequel and one that plays like the original.
The rumor is that Dimps isn't working with Sega anymore, so we might get a good portable Sonic sooner or later since the Rush formula is well tapped out.
Quote from: gunswordfist on May 12, 2013, 11:50:58 PM
Quote from: Rynnec on May 12, 2013, 04:37:54 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist1. Contra Hard Corps 2 (with 4 players)
Would Hard Corps. Uprising count? It's more of a prequel, but it does take place in the same universe and has 4-player support.
And I second Bomberman and DMC 5.
I didn't know it was an actual prequel (or that it had 4 player,hmmm). I meant an actual sequel and one that plays like the original.
It doesn't have 4 player or branching paths, but it has a lot of unlockable moves and amazing level design. Instead of the slide you can now sprint and run up walls (sort of like Mega Man to Mega Man X) and you can unlock things like a double jump and air-dashing. If you enjoy Contra you should really play it.
I'll give it a try
How well do the Streets of Rage games hold up?
Quote from: Avaitor on May 20, 2013, 09:35:35 PM
How well do the Streets of Rage games hold up?
SoR 2 and 3 hold up extremely well, although the latter is kind of unfair. The first one holds up decently, but not everyone will be able to stomach its datedness.
Personally, I recommend just playing SoRR instead, though.
1 = Only if you're a beat 'em up fan
2 = Perfectly
3 = Gameplay-wise great, aesthetics not so well
2 it is!
I bought the trilogy recently. The first game certain isn't bad by any means, but its pretty average on the whole. The 2nd game is a marked improvement, and IMO the 3rd game is actually the best one, from a gameplay stand-point, and also the most challenging as I actually still haven't beaten it yet. Just keep in mind that these are short games, and they aren't incredibly deep or anything, so it'll just be some good, button-mashing fun. That can of course be a really refreshing experience when you're in the mood for it, though.
Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on May 20, 2013, 10:46:43 PM
I bought the trilogy recently. The first game certain isn't bad by any means, but its pretty average on the whole. The 2nd game is a marked improvement, and IMO the 3rd game is actually the best one, from a gameplay stand-point, and also the most challenging as I actually still haven't beaten it yet. Just keep in mind that these are short games, and they aren't incredibly deep or anything, so it'll just be some good, button-mashing fun. That can of course be a really refreshing experience when you're in the mood for it, though.
Did you play the Japanese version of 3 yet? It's honestly the 2nd best SOR. What holds it back from 2 is the overall enemies and bosses are a bit worst and ironically it's a little bit too easy. If you've been getting far in the US version then that practicing should make you good enough to beat the Japan version in one try.
Avaitor, play all 3 in order and then download Streets Of Rage remake. It'll make you appreciate the Remake more. SORR is my favorite beat em up of all time and the most addictive game I've recently played (the multiple paths/endings and all the unlockable characters and modes really help)
The final boss in 3 is dreadful, too.
It's a great game, but I just can't recommend it over 2. If you're a fan then play it and make your own judgement but it's just short of the full package that 2 is in my opinion.
And the best boss in SOR3 is hard to get to iirc.
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June's games!
Bought Spyro 2 on PSN yesterday.
I forget how much I loved this game. I think it's better than Year of the Dragon personally.
All retro remakes should look this good (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_pkk7JXS24w&feature=player_embedded)
That video is why I wouldn't mind Mega Man X9 being 3D. X8 was almost on the right track, but the difficulty was messed up as well as a few other things.
What glorious voice acting. This will probably be the final hurrah of the original DuckTales crew... :'(
Quote from: Foggle on June 05, 2013, 07:38:39 AM
What glorious voice acting. This will probably be the final hurrah of the original DuckTales crew... :'(
Unless this does well and we get DuckTales 2!
But yeah, this is probably one of the last things the cast will get to do.
Sengoku 3 is out for the Wii VC. (http://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/dXZAjIokWwgYT2wjjubfpQB4umUBss3E)
This is a rare game and its one and only re-release so if you're a beat 'em up fan- go get it!
I used my Nintendo coins to get Metroid 2 for the 3DS VC.
I actually had 400 Wii points sitting in my account for a couple years I haven't be able to do squat with so I decided I needed to get rid of them so I added 1000 points and bought two VC games I've never played before: Pulseman and StarTropics.
You know which game I feel like playing now? Jet Force Gemini.
I should try to find my old copy of it.
That's one of those games that I loved as a kid but am absolutely terrified to try again because I might find the it hasn't aged well at all. I mean, with most of these old games I am usually prepared for that kind of thing but I keep my expectations in check when I got back to them. In that regard, I went back to try stuff like Star Fox 64 and Sonic Adventure, and the former aged extremely well while the latter had some problems but I still found it to be a good game, or if I couldn't objectively call that then I still had fun with it, so I really don't give a flying fuck what anyone else says about it.
But with Jet Force Gemini, I looked up some gameplay videos not too long ago and it looks kind of bad, but it could be one of those games that is more fun to play than it is to watch. One day I will probably try it again, though, as I did love it as a kid, and I don't think I could see myself absolutely hating it, even if it did have a bad camera (as was the style of most old 3D games) and even more awkward controls.
Did you know that on his time off from County General Hospital, Dr. Mark Greene likes to go to his local arcade and play Killer Instinct?
Watching ER is fun. :D
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Club Nintendo rewards for this month. Nothing all too surprising.
Quote from: Avaitor on June 22, 2013, 12:22:43 PM
Watching ER is fun. :D
If you like having someone vomit into your brain.
I really want a legitimate sequel to Super Mario RPG.
Quote from: GaryPotter on July 02, 2013, 05:33:51 PM
I really want a legitimate sequel to Super Mario RPG.
I always thought this would happen after Nintendo's recent outreach to third party companies like Sega, Tecmo, and Atlus.
An obvious Square collaboration would be a follow-up to that.
You really want Square going anywhere near a Mario RPG? As far as I'm concerned, they've only been good for publishing western games for years now.
I was never the biggest fan of Super Mario RPG. I like most of the following Mario RPGs more.
Quote from: Foggle on July 02, 2013, 05:52:54 PM
You really want Square going anywhere near a Mario RPG? As far as I'm concerned, they've only been good for publishing western games for years now.
Well, to get the rights for the characters and concepts, I mean. I'd rather just have AlphaDream develop the game since they are basically the old SMRPG team.
I was really disappointed that Geno and Mallow weren't in that Mario Basketball game on the 3DS.
Club Nintendo rewards are out now folks.
I grabbed myself a Majora's Mask soundtrack. (I'm really hoping they put out DKC1 and 2 soundtracks next year)
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 16, 2013, 06:43:12 PM
Club Nintendo rewards are out now folks.
I grabbed myself a Majora's Mask soundtrack. (I'm really hoping they put out DKC1 and 2 soundtracks next year)
Me too. As I said on the other forum, I already own the Japanese release, but hey, it's free.
The site says on my "to-do" list that I still need to pick a prize though. The heck? Thought we were only allowed one.
Quote from: Nel_Annette on July 16, 2013, 07:04:21 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 16, 2013, 06:43:12 PM
Club Nintendo rewards are out now folks.
I grabbed myself a Majora's Mask soundtrack. (I'm really hoping they put out DKC1 and 2 soundtracks next year)
Me too. As I said on the other forum, I already own the Japanese release, but hey, it's free.
The site says on my "to-do" list that I still need to pick a prize though. The heck? Thought we were only allowed one.
That might be a glitch. I saw that too, but now that I go back it seems to be gone.
Thanks. No one was responding to me about it at the other place. Morality kept me from even attempting to choose something. :lol: That and I didn't want to "push" the soundtrack out in favor of something else.
I would have preferred some kind of Year Of Luigi prize personally. But I won't say no Majora's Mask.
I got a cool Luigi coin at the Best Buy thing, I'm kind of surprised they haven't put that on the store yet. But then, there's a lot they could be putting on the store that they aren't. :sweat:
The last thing I got from Club Nintendo was that Super Mario Accessories basket that was on the store for like less than a week or something. Kind of glad I jumped on that considering I haven't seen it in the Club store for a while. I still wished they got more shit in there.
That and I decided to jump on the CD as well. Kind of wished there was a Luigi themed item in there. I mean, Majora's Mask CD feels random. I wonder if Nintendo is trying to tell me something.
I'm gonna bet that a Majora's Mask remake will be released for the 3DS next year. It's an easy way to keep Zelda fresh for players that way.
Earthbound is out today on the WiiU for like $9.99, you know what you must do!
Are all the SNES games that pricey? :whuh:
Oh well. Guess I'll buy.
10 dollars is a hell of a lot better than the hundreds of dollars that even loose carts have been going for the last several years. I just wish it would be released on the 3DS VC.
Quote from: Comeau on July 18, 2013, 11:46:47 AM
10 dollars is a hell of a lot better than the hundreds of dollars that even loose carts have been going for the last several years. I just wish it would be released on the 3DS VC.
Or the Wii VC.
Quote from: Foggle on July 18, 2013, 11:51:13 AM
Quote from: Comeau on July 18, 2013, 11:46:47 AM
10 dollars is a hell of a lot better than the hundreds of dollars that even loose carts have been going for the last several years. I just wish it would be released on the 3DS VC.
Or the Wii VC.
Quote from: Comeau on July 18, 2013, 11:46:47 AM
10 dollars is a hell of a lot better than the hundreds of dollars that even loose carts have been going for the last several years. I just wish it would be released on the 3DS VC.
This does make me wonder when Nintendo is going to bother to port SNES games to the 3DS anyway. I mean so far they only have NES, GB, GBC, and Game Gear games available to the public.
I'd also like to see the Wii U allow for Saturn or even Dreamcast games on the VC.
I am glad EarthBound is here, don't get me wrong, but every time I visit the Wii U's Virtual Console page, it just makes me angry at how empty it is. When I first got the console, I hadn't really paid attention to much VC news and simply assumed that everything from the Wii's VC would already be on there for buying. Playing the waiting game twice isn't fun at all.
And when are Nintendo going to make the Ambassador games available on the 3DS eShop? ANY other company would have released that shit for regular purchase no more than two months later.
SHANTAE IS ALSO OUT ON THE 3DS VC WHY DID NO ONE MENTION THAT.
Also, Capcom announced that they're going to be releasing the Game Boy Mega Man and Mega Man Extreme games on the 3DS VC. Took long enough.
Quote from: Foggle on July 18, 2013, 01:51:32 PM
And when are Nintendo going to make the Ambassador games available on the 3DS eShop? ANY other company would have released that shit for regular purchase no more than two months later.
They're all available. If you mean GBA games, they're not out because Nintendo has never confirmed GBA games for the 3DS.
Quote from: Nel_Annette on July 18, 2013, 01:45:39 PM
I am glad EarthBound is here, don't get me wrong, but every time I visit the Wii U's Virtual Console page, it just makes me angry at how empty it is. When I first got the console, I hadn't really paid attention to much VC news and simply assumed that everything from the Wii's VC would already be on there for buying. Playing the waiting game twice isn't fun at all.
You can go into Wii mode and buy any VC game there, but they won't have Miiverse or Gamepad enhancements or stuff like customization. You can buy any of them now if you don't mind the lack of enhancements.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 18, 2013, 05:44:05 PM
Quote from: Foggle on July 18, 2013, 01:51:32 PM
And when are Nintendo going to make the Ambassador games available on the 3DS eShop? ANY other company would have released that shit for regular purchase no more than two months later.
They're all available. If you mean GBA games, they're not out because Nintendo has never confirmed GBA games for the 3DS.
Which is extremely stupid. It's like they
don't want all the money people would gladly pay in a heartbeat for those games.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 18, 2013, 05:44:05 PM
You can go into Wii mode and buy any VC game there, but they won't have Miiverse or Gamepad enhancements or stuff like customization. You can buy any of them now if you don't mind the lack of enhancements.
That's exactly why I don't delve into my Wii VC library more than I have to. That and the damn thing didn't even have enough memory to hold all the games I bought. Extremely annoying.
Quote from: Foggle on July 18, 2013, 05:51:43 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 18, 2013, 05:44:05 PM
Quote from: Foggle on July 18, 2013, 01:51:32 PM
And when are Nintendo going to make the Ambassador games available on the 3DS eShop? ANY other company would have released that shit for regular purchase no more than two months later.
They're all available. If you mean GBA games, they're not out because Nintendo has never confirmed GBA games for the 3DS.
Which is extremely stupid. It's like they don't want all the money people would gladly pay in a heartbeat for those games.
Hopefully whenever they get to these they'll actually have things like sleep mode, menu access, and customization. Personally, I would like to also see Virtua Boy and Neo Geo Pocket Color added as well.
I would also like to see a bunch more on the Wii-U VC like:
Master System
Genesis
Neo Geo
Amiga
Sega CD
32X
N64
Saturn
Dreamcast
Gamecube
But at least they've finally moved over fully to Wii-U VC support. They just need to get the other guys back on like Sega. Sega would be crazy to not take full advantage of something like the VC.
Quote from: Nel_Annette on July 18, 2013, 05:54:23 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 18, 2013, 05:44:05 PM
You can go into Wii mode and buy any VC game there, but they won't have Miiverse or Gamepad enhancements or stuff like customization. You can buy any of them now if you don't mind the lack of enhancements.
That's exactly why I don't delve into my Wii VC library more than I have to. That and the damn thing didn't even have enough memory to hold all the games I bought. Extremely annoying.
Personally, I just invested in a 1TB harddrive. I'm definitely not going through the aggravation of the 360 again!
Decided to pull out my old PS2 and play some of the JRPGs I spent way too much money on last decade.
I forgot how much slowdown PS2 games were prone to. This kind of thing never happened on the GameCube.
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Question 1- Is $30 for a copy of Contra III good?
Question 2- Name a game I should buy from the Wii's VC while I still can.
#1: If it includes the box and manual. Otherwise I think it can be found cheaper.
#2: This (http://www.nintendolife.com/games/snes/doremi_fantasy_milons_dokidoki_adventure)
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on November 01, 2013, 09:41:19 PM
#1: If it includes the box and manual. Otherwise I think it can be found cheaper.
Fair deal. I could probably get it for free anyway if I decide on the right stuff to trade in for credit, but I might save the $10 of credit and go for DKC 2 instead.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on November 01, 2013, 09:41:19 PM
#2: This (http://www.nintendolife.com/games/snes/doremi_fantasy_milons_dokidoki_adventure)
hmm, looks good! I really want to build up my VC collection.
This month's Club Nintendo rewards are:
Art Style Cubello - 150 coins (Wii)
The Legend Of Zelda: A Link To The Past - 150 coins (Wii)
Metroid - 150 coins (3DS)
Dillon's Rolling Western - 200 coins (3DS)
Not a bad month, but I'm still sitting on way too many coins and already have these.
I wish I had the coins to hit up ALTTP.
A heads up for Club Nintendo members- there's a 10 coin survey out that expires on the 10th of November.
So get to it ASAP.
So I decided to start buying NES games with boxes/manuals, and I decided to start with the initial launch line up from 1985. The bright side of this, many of the games, such as Excitebike, Golf, Kung Fu, Wild Gunman, Duck Hunt, hell even Super Mario Bros can be found easily for pretty cheap(around $20-$30 at most). The down side? Fucking Stack-Up. This one is gonna kill me.
Also have boxed copies of many other games, like all four NES Simpsons games, all three DKC games, both NES Contras, Super Castlevania, and even Super Famicom versions of Turtles in Time, Yoshi's(Yossy's) Island, Super Metroid, and Super Donkey Kong 2. Most of these are all from the last couple of months.
About 2 weeks ago, I saw that my great grandmother had a Sega Saturn in her closet. Within this hour, I checked it out and it turns on just fine and both its controllers work. ;D Now I got to get some games and see if they'll work.
Last night I asked and she gave me the Saturn. Any recommendations? Besides Saturn Bomberman, which is at the top of my list. ;)
Panzer Dragoon Saga and NIGHTS are the most popular Saturn games among collectors, so keep an eye out for those. ;)
Most of the best games are import-only, unfortunately. But Astal, Nights, and Burning Rangers are musts.
Panzer Dragoon Saga, yeah right. Good luck getting your hands on that one.
How is Hyperstone Heist though? I know Turtles in Time is generally considered the better game, but what's the consensus on the Genesis equivalent?
It sort of feels like a Turtles in Time romhack.
But I would say after TMNT arcade, TiT, and TMNT III, it's one of the best TMNT games. It's a bit short, though.
Thanks guys. I was looking at an Astal video the other day.
Picked up a sealed copy of the SNES version of the Beavis and Butthead game.
Well, they've done it. The new Club Nintendo rewards appear to be 3DS/Wii U only.
Mario Picross (3DS) - 100 coins
Starship Defense (3DS) - 150 coins
Super Mario Bros. The Lost Levels (Wii U) - 150 coins
Balloon Fight (Wii U) - 200 coins
Not exactly a prime haul, but it seems clear that they'll be pushing the Wii U over the Wii from now on.
How is Doom on the SNES?
A friend wants to sell me his copy for $10.
Better than on the 32X.
Ask for 5.
Yeah, $10 is a little high, but if he needs the money, I'll talk to him.
Need some soap? (http://www.firebox.com/product/6196/Super-Nintendo-Gamer-Soap-Cartridges)
Oh yeah, I've seen those around.
I'd love that ALTTP one myself.
PC Engine and MSX are returning to the Wii-U VC in Japan (http://www.gonintendo.com/?mode=viewstory&id=219056)
Konami finally got off their duff. Now to bring back the TG-16 for the Wii-U. I want some Rondo of Blood on my Gamepad.
Wake me when Suikoden II lands on PSN.
This sort of fits the thread, but today Nintendo announced and released NES Remix which is sort of like WarioWare challenges without the WarioWare packaging.
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It's a cool challenge and a nice idea for an eshop game nonetheless. If you've got a Wii-U, give it a go.
Damn. Now I really want a Wii-U.
NES Remix 2 was announced. Of course it includes Zelda 2 which means I'll fail pretty hard on this.
A good remix of probably my favorite fighting game theme: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2koFEpW_LkY (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2koFEpW_LkY)
GBA on Wii U release list:
April 3:
Advance Wars (Wii U, $7.99)
Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga (Wii U, $7.99)
Metroid Fusion (Wii U, $7.99)
April 10:
Kirby & The Amazing Mirror (Wii U, $6.99)
WarioWare, Inc.: Mega Microgame$!
April 17
Super Mario Bros. 3 (Wii U and Nintendo 3DS, $4.99)
F-Zero: Maximum Velocity (Wii U, $6.99)
Golden Sun (Wii U, $7.99)
April 24
Yoshi's Island: Super Mario Advance 3 (Wii U, $7.99)
Still no SNES version of Yoshi's Island.
Donkey Kong Land is apparently coming out for the 3DS VC. Will definitely grab it. Donkey Kong Land was a lot of fun.
So why have the DKC games been removed from the Wii VC?
Local video game store has a copy of Pocky and Rocky 2. It just sucks that I don't have the $150 they are asking for it. :(
Capcom Unity is asking which portable Mega Man game do you want released on the VC first. (http://www.capcom-unity.com/brelston/blog/2014/03/31/mega-may-on-3ds-vote-for-your-favorite-handheld-title-and-it-may-release-first)
For some reason Mega Man Xtreme 1 is winning. Why, I don't know. Do us all a favor and vote for V. Every Mega Man fan has been waiting for that to re-release for decades.
Done! :thumbup:
Going through inventory today, I now have 467 different Game Boy compatible games(grey and black cartridges only) in my collection. The downside to this? I own 13 copies of Tetris(one is Japanese), 6 copies of Mario Land 2(one is Japanese), 4 copies of both Mario Land 1 and Pokemon Yellow, and 2 copies of many games including Pokemon Red, Metroid 2, Donkey Kong, Kirby's Dreamland, Pac-Man, and Catrap. Too many duplicates.
So, Mega Man Xtreme was the first game released as part of Mega May, is it any good or not?
You remember how the first Mega Man Game Boy game just took bosses and stage from NES Mega Man 1 and 2, cropped the screen, and called it a day? That's what Mega Man Xtreme is, only with X1 and X2. Only here you have to deal with dashing by double tapping forward.
No idea why people voted for this over MMV. It's decent, but not even close to the strongest game they could have put out first.
Hm... sounds a little redundant. Well... at least we got 4 more weeks to see what else Capcom decides to put out on the VC for Mega May.
This is their release schedule:
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IV, V, and Xtreme 2 are the best ones, in my opinion. Xtreme 1 is decent for portable Mega Man X, but it pales compared to the sequel.
Picked up this CIB Manhattan Project today.
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Love that box art.
Me too. That's so cool.
Quote from: Comeau on May 03, 2014, 02:35:20 PM
Picked up this CIB Manhattan Project today.
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Love that box art.
Looks like actual Eastman and Laird artwork. Very nice!
Also picked up boxed copies of Pokemon Puzzle Challenge for Game Boy Color(this one even had the original Toys R Us receipt still included amongst the papers inside the box) and Classic NES Series Super Mario Bros. for Game Boy Advance, both in amazing shape. And Looney Tunes Space Race for PS2(I heard it's supposed to be a decent game), Mega Man X for SNES, and another Kirby's Adventure for NES.
Japanese version of Babs' Big Break:
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Look at how tiny these Japanese Game Boy boxes are(compared to a standard NA Game Boy box and the NA cartridge of Babs' Big Break)
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Also found a few other gems(all loose though) like Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles 2(Japanese version of Back From the Sewers), Japanese version of Metal Gear for GBC, Felix the Cat for GB, and Faceball(very hard to find FPS-styled game, really pushes the tech limits of the Game Boy, although it's still not very good).
I found my sister's old GBC. She won't miss it, so I was thinking of either pawning it off or buying these copies of Mario Tennis and Game & Watch Gallery that I found for it.
Worst brother ever.
It came! It finally came! I imported a Famicom for 100 bucks, and after three weeks it's finally here. Unfortunately the RF adapter that comes with it doesn't work on North American televisions, I need a RF adapter for the NES. I used to have a couple, but of course when I need them I can't find them. I'll have to get one off Amazon or something.
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Now I can finally play the first Goonies game that I've had for a while now(and also didn't see a home release in America).
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oh my, that's awesome!
That's so cool!
Looks great!
Quote from: Comeau on January 07, 2012, 01:55:00 PM
Just bought a fat PS2 for 5 bucks. It's pretty cool, since my PS3 doesn't play PS2 games, and my old PS2 I gave to my brother ages ago, and I don't know if he still has it.
EDIT: I don't know if the ps2 is retro enough for this thread. Eh.
Dammit, so this thing finally died on me. Wanted to play some Vice City for shits and giggles, and now it doesn't power on at all. No sign of life, tried a different power cord, the one from my PS3(which turns on just fine with both power cords), could be the power supply inside the thing I guess but I'm not too sure how well I could fix that. Sucks, now I've got to keep an eye out for another one.
Quote from: Comeau on July 08, 2014, 07:40:49 PM
Quote from: Comeau on January 07, 2012, 01:55:00 PM
Just bought a fat PS2 for 5 bucks. It's pretty cool, since my PS3 doesn't play PS2 games, and my old PS2 I gave to my brother ages ago, and I don't know if he still has it.
EDIT: I don't know if the ps2 is retro enough for this thread. Eh.
Dammit, so this thing finally died on me. Wanted to play some Vice City for shits and giggles, and now it doesn't power on at all. No sign of life, tried a different power cord, the one from my PS3(which turns on just fine with both power cords), could be the power supply inside the thing I guess but I'm not too sure how well I could fix that. Sucks, now I've got to keep an eye out for another one.
PS2's are notorious for poor quality hardware. You might have to buy 2 or 3 just to be sure it won't decide to stop playing blue discs on you.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 09, 2014, 10:34:24 PM
PS2's are notorious for poor quality hardware. You might have to buy 2 or 3 just to be sure it won't decide to stop playing blue discs on you.
First I've heard of this. I've had mine since 2003 and it's never even frozen or crashed once. Still works like the day we bought it, and I played that shit extensively as a kid. Like, having the console on 8 hours a day extensively. Pretty sure they only go bad if you watch movies on them.
Funny thing is, my Xbox 360 has also never had any issues (though the disc drive does tend to get stuck these days). It's only my PS3 and Wii-U - the supposedly superior quality consoles - that have lots of problems.
Quote from: Foggle on July 09, 2014, 10:40:33 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 09, 2014, 10:34:24 PM
PS2's are notorious for poor quality hardware. You might have to buy 2 or 3 just to be sure it won't decide to stop playing blue discs on you.
First I've heard of this. I've had mine since 2003 and it's never even frozen or crashed once. Still works like the day we bought it, and I played that shit extensively as a kid. Like, having the console on 8 hours a day extensively. Pretty sure they only go bad if you watch movies on them.
I'm on my third PS2, my friend is on his third or fourth, and another friend who barely games has gone through two. It's not the most reliable system.
Quote from: Foggle on July 09, 2014, 10:40:33 PMFunny thing is, my Xbox 360 has also never had any issues (though the disc drive does tend to get stuck these days). It's only my PS3 and Wii-U - the supposedly superior quality consoles - that have lots of problems.
My 360 red ringed on me. Another friend had a red ring, and an acquaintance was on his third 360 last I heard.
Other than my NES, Wii-U, 360, and PS2, I've never had a hardware related problem with a video game console. I assumed console-makers would get better at this over time.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 09, 2014, 10:45:48 PM
I'm on my third PS2, my friend is on his third or fourth, and another friend who barely games has gone through two. It's not the most reliable system.
My friend has used the same one since 2005, my other friend has used the same once since 2006 and it still works despite having been dropped and smashed at the bottom of his closet, my other friend has used the same one since 2007. They all still work perfectly, just like mine. I also bought a used Japanese PS2 a year ago (no telling where it's been) and it works perfectly too. Only one of my friends has had his PS2 mess up, and it was because he watched lots of DVDs on it. The laser going out from emulating a DVD player too many times is a known issue, but that's about it from what I can tell.
I dunno, maybe you and your friends are really unlucky, or maybe my friends and I are really lucky. But I've never heard of the PS2 having faulty hardware before.
My first XBOX360 RR'ed on me. Then I got a new one in 2008, and it has worked fine for me ever since then.
Okay, reading some stuff online, and I can't find any evidence of the PS2 hardware being low quality. But, from what I can tell, standing your console up vertically can apparently break the system by moving the parts around inside and damaging the motherboard/lens. My friends and I have always laid our consoles down horizontally. Perhaps that was the problem?
Don't know what to tell you, but when the PS2 first came out it had many problems as I read in gaming mags at the time. Some had problems playing blue discs, some had issues if you played movies, some had issues if you stood them vertically. My first PS2 had all those problems. My second one just stopped reading discs entirely one day. No idea why. But of the three consoles of that gen, it was the least reliable. Good on you for not having problems, though.
People can mock the PS3 all they want, but I've never had a hardware issue with it.
PS2 was definitely a lot less reliable than the GameCube and Dreamcast. Those consoles were durable as hell. My friends and I experienced tons of issues with the original Xbox, though. But I guess everything we're talking about here is anecdotal evidence.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 09, 2014, 11:17:28 PM
People can mock the PS3 all they want, but I've never had a hardware issue with it.
Mocking the PS3 is pretty passe now, it turned out very well in the end and at this point most of the haters are just shuffling around uncomfortably. Same thing that's happening right now with the Wii-U, actually.
That said, my PS3 full-on crashed within the first hour of me using it, and it likes to freeze at least once every other week. Nothing as bad as a completely broken console, though.
Quote from: Foggle on July 09, 2014, 11:23:58 PMThat said, my PS3 full-on crashed within the first hour of me using it, and it likes to freeze at least once every other week. Nothing as bad as a completely broken console, though.
My Wii-U wouldn't read discs out of the box so I never even got to use it for like two weeks despite getting it at launch. So, yeah, I know how that feels to get a new system only to have it seize on you. :)
Have there been any RROD style problems with the new systems yet? I haven't come across any on my own.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 09, 2014, 11:27:47 PM
Quote from: Foggle on July 09, 2014, 11:23:58 PMThat said, my PS3 full-on crashed within the first hour of me using it, and it likes to freeze at least once every other week. Nothing as bad as a completely broken console, though.
My Wii-U wouldn't read discs out of the box so I never even got to use it for like two weeks despite getting it at launch. So, yeah, I know how that feels to get a new system only to have it seize on you. :)
:'(
Fortunately, mine only has a habit of not actually turning on unless I fiddle with the cables 10% of the time. Again, not a particularly terrible issue, but annoying all the same. Guess I've just been lucky as far as consoles go. *knock on wood*
QuoteHave there been any RROD style problems with the new systems yet? I haven't come across any on my own.
I don't think so. I know the Wii-U, PS4, and Xbone all had quite a few faulty units at launch, but they more just plain didn't work rather than dying a few months later. Think that's a pretty standard issue with new hardware, unfortunately.
FYI, as far as the original XBOX goes, the early models used cheaply made Philips disc drives, which had tons of problems, and indeed my first XBOX broke down. Later models incorporated Samsung disc drives, and the second XBOX I got never gave me any problems....and now that I think about it, history basically repeated itself with the X360. Damn, Microsoft, it's almost like you planned for me to buy each of your consoles twice. In that case, I'm so glad that I'm not getting an XONE (as tempting as it will be to want to play Scalebound).
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on July 09, 2014, 11:33:55 PM
FYI, as far as the original XBOX goes, the early models used cheaply made Philips disc drives, which had tons of problems, and indeed my first XBOX broke down. Later models incorporated Samsung disc drives, and the second XBOX I got never gave me any problems....
That sounds about right. I remember my friend's early run Xbox actually ate one of his discs and then wouldn't start up anymore!
Super Mario Kart is now available to download on the Wii U. Not sure why it came out a day early, but there it is.
Sweet. Though I'm not sure why the discount price is $1.50. Every other game I've bought so far that I bought on the original Virtual Console was only $1.
NES games are $1 and SNES games are $1.50. If you look into your purchase history you'll probably see that difference.
I assume N64 games will be $2 if they ever make the system.
Huh. I never realized that.
Quote from: Nel_Annette on August 06, 2014, 12:59:18 PM
Huh. I never realized that.
Yep, Nintendo generally scales the pricing in accordance to which system the title released on.
On a slightly retro note, downloaded a copy of
3D Classics: Kid Icarus the other day. Having so much fun with it, especially since the game autosaves AND has the same file/save format as the Famicom version.
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This month's Club Nintendo picks. Donkey Kong is actually the superior Game Boy game, so if you don't have that one I recommend it.
Whoa, Zoda's Revenge for the Wii proper? I should see if I can scrounge up enough points for that.
Is the N64 considered retro now? I dunno.
Anyway, I listened to this (http://grantkirkhope.bandcamp.com/album/the-game-that-never-was-and-never-happened) earlier, and my memories of how I imagined Banjo-Threeie would be as a kid came flooding back to me. I couldn't stop the tears. :'(
N64 is four generations old now. It's retro. :D
On the plus side, Grant Kirkhope seems to be contributing a lot of music to indie platformers these days. I do wish the old Rare guys would just bite the bullet and form a new studio, though.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 17, 2014, 07:57:14 PM
On the plus side, Grant Kirkhope seems to be contributing a lot of music to indie platformers these days.
Speaking of, have you seen this game? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jonaskaerlev/a-hat-in-time-3d-collect-a-thon-platformer Someone on Twitter linked me to it earlier. It's coming out for PC this year and presumably Wii U next year. Its mere existence makes me happy.
This also reminds me that I still need to play the HD Castle of Illusion game!
Quote from: Foggle on October 17, 2014, 08:00:25 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 17, 2014, 07:57:14 PM
On the plus side, Grant Kirkhope seems to be contributing a lot of music to indie platformers these days.
Speaking of, have you seen this game? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jonaskaerlev/a-hat-in-time-3d-collect-a-thon-platformer Someone on Twitter linked me to it earlier. It's coming out for PC this year and presumably Wii U next year. Its mere existence makes me happy.
This also reminds me that I still need to play the HD Castle of Illusion game!
Yes, that's one of the games he's contributing to. Another one is a 3D platformer with a werewolf wrestler thing, I think.
I'm glad to see the old style of 3D platformer seems to be making a small resurgence. Even if it's only in the indie world.
I really hope it gets that Wii U release. I'd play it on PC either way, but I can't help but think how cool it'd be for Nintendo to have this.
Quote from: Foggle on October 17, 2014, 08:00:25 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 17, 2014, 07:57:14 PM
On the plus side, Grant Kirkhope seems to be contributing a lot of music to indie platformers these days.
Speaking of, have you seen this game? http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/jonaskaerlev/a-hat-in-time-3d-collect-a-thon-platformer Someone on Twitter linked me to it earlier. It's coming out for PC this year and presumably Wii U next year. Its mere existence makes me happy.
This also reminds me that I still need to play the HD Castle of Illusion game!
I'm actually one of the backers of this project. I need to go back to play it to see what else has happened. As far as the Alpha is concerned, it's shaping up to be quite a fun experience.
Quote from: Foggle on October 17, 2014, 07:54:24 PM
Anyway, I listened to this (http://grantkirkhope.bandcamp.com/album/the-game-that-never-was-and-never-happened) earlier, and my memories of how I imagined Banjo-Threeie would be as a kid came flooding back to me. I couldn't stop the tears. :'(
Awww man, how did I miss this?
Nuts and Bolts was a fine game, but if I could change history we'd have gotten this a thousand times over instead. And Rare would still be part of Nintendo, not the miserable rotting husk of a company they are now.
Yep, unfortunately, Rare is just wasting away at MS doing exactly what any other company could be doing in their place.
Not to mention, no one from the old days is still working there.
You guys know how, in the NES days, you had those really weird sequels due to there perhaps being no concept of what a "sequel" should be yet, therefore leading to 2's that were vastly different from their predecessors? What do you guys think of those games on their merits?
Super Mario Bros. 2
Zelda II: The Adventure of Link
Castlevania II: Simon's Quest
At the moment, these three are the only ones I can think of. If anyone can remember any, feel free to post.
it was a pretty experimental time. fan feedback/backlash is what probably made sequels into what they are today.
on a similar note, how do you guys feel about sequels/reboots/spinoffs that were originally intended/could have been for other/original characters such as ninja gaiden, super mario 2 and star fox adventures?
I'd say the backlash for SMB2 gets made out to be a bit bigger than it actually is. The other two games I mentioned get a bit more hate, but SMB2 is mostly just considered a lower tier Mario game, which is really nothing to be ashamed of.
i actually just meant the other 2 games and any old sequel that got a lot of backlash. smb2 was loved back then and then some fans turned on later on, as far as i know.
The first time I ever saw SMB2 backlash was online. Growing up I never heard a bad comment about it, even when All-Stars came out.
I think people just liked it less than 1 and 3.
But anyway, what do you think of those games?
I think SMB2 is an excellent platformer and I think Zelda II and Castlevania II were two games that would have been better had they been made after the team understood their respective series' better.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on January 02, 2015, 01:10:46 PM
Zelda II and Castlevania II were two games that would have been better had they been made after the team understood their respective series' better.
The thing is, back then, there really weren't any series' to speak of. If they were made after the team understood them better, they have been more in line with their predecessors.
Well, future Castlevania games in the open-world style were all FAR better than Castlevania II, so they definitely learned from it. Zelda II, however, we'll probably never know. Unless Nintendo decides to give another sidescrolling Zelda a shot, we'll never know if the series has something like a Symphony of the Night or Rondo of Blood in it.
I'd be interested in seeing Nintendo let someone else take a crack at a 2D Zelda game for a handheld. We could see a truly great one.
Here are some retro consoles I don't own yet:
-3DO: Many of its games were released for multiple consoles (Need For Speed, SSF2 Turbo, Gex, Brain Dead 13, Doom, the list goes on). So I don't feel like I'm missing much here. For novelty's sake, Way of the Warrior, Jurassic Park Interactive, Twisted, and Hell: A Cyberpunk Adventure would be fun, but I don't think they're worth buying an entire console for.
-CDi: Not buying for obvious reasons (not many games, bad controller, way too expensive).
-Game Gear: All the games I care about were re-released for Virtual Console or on the various Sonic compilations.
-Jaguar: Aside from a couple games I wouldn't mind having, I don't feel like I'm missing much by skipping this. Amusingly, I almost bought a Jaguar back when they were firesale-ing them for $50. In retrospect, glad I didn't.
-Jaguar CD: See Jaguar, plus hardware problems.
-Lynx: Eh... I don't recall this being anything special.
-Neo Geo: Great system but honestly, the majority of them have been re-released on the modern consoles. There are very few games that I want that were never re-released in some format. Plus the games themselves cost a pretty penny.
-Sega CD: Now this I do actually want- there are some games released for it that I wouldn't mind having. The problem is, I happen to own the model 1 Genesis, which means I'd have to get the model 1 Sega CD. And that particular model is harder to come by than the model 2 one, which sits side-by-side with the Genesis 2.
-Turbo Grafx 16: Never been as big on this console as some. The few games I care about I've already bought for Virtual Console.
So Club Nintendo is ending. Apparently they'll be adding a bunch of things in February to finish it off, but until they put those up this is the final batch of games:
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I already have all of those, so I will continue to wait until February for the final additions. Sad to see the program ending (even though it became awful) though I hope the new program adds something from the also recently completed Digital Deluxe Promotion for the Wii U. I much preferred that one.
Speaking of Nintendo, S.C.A.T. is being re-released on Wii U this week. It's actually a good game despite its unfortunate acronym.
So I finally picked up one of those Retron 5 consoles today, it was never really a priority for me since I own all of the consoles it emulates, but it's still neat to have. The only issues I've been having is with Famicom/Super Famicom games, it can be really picky when it comes to playing them. Also something cool is I can play my PAL NES games like Aladdin now, they ran on both of my NES's(after disabling the 10NES chip), but I could never get through the first level without the game glitching out.
Also interesting to be able to play Genesis games with Super Nintendo controllers, and vice versa.
Do any of those clone consoles have HDMI output? Or are they all composite as usual?
Yes, that was the main draw of the Retron 5, it only outputs HDMI.
http://hyperkin.com/retro/retron-5/retron-5-gaming-console-black-hyperkin.html
After talking about(and dreaming of owning) some rare games like Little Samson and Gimmick!, what are some of the more rare or valuable games you own?
For me, I own
NES:
Ducktales 2
Chip N Dale 2
Felix the Cat Complete in Box
The Jetsons: Cogswell's Caper
Contra Force
TMNT Tournament Fighters
SNES
Wild Guns
Demon's Crest
Ninja Gaiden Trilogy
And it's not retro, but I am lucky enough to own a sealed physical copy of Retro City Rampage for PS4
i remember how hard tournament fighters is. it took us forever to beat just one turtle.
I own SNES Mega Man X3, but not a whole lot of rare games.
I own Rockman X3 for Super Famicom, which is a much cheaper alternative. Actually own all the Rockman SFC games, including Rockman and Forte(eventually released for GBA as Mega Man and Bass) and Rockman Soccer.
The rarest game I own is probably Dragon Seeds. I imagine none of you guys have ever even heard of that game... and if you have, it was probably from me. :P
A close second is EarthBound.
my brother put rockman and forte on my laptop. the first level has adhd. it's a fire..and water level. wth
It's not exactly retro, but I'm proud to own a copy of Metroid Prime Trilogy.
Intelligent Qube, probably. I also own Rival Schools: United By Fate, which isn't THE rarest game out there but isn't exactly cheap nowadays, especially if you want the original case and manual.
Quote from: Avaitor on January 22, 2015, 11:34:39 PM
It's not exactly retro, but I'm proud to own a copy of Metroid Prime Trilogy.
Yes it is. :>
Also, I love that tin case.
Quote from: Speedy on January 23, 2015, 09:05:27 AM
Intelligent Qube, probably. I also own Rival Schools: United By Fate, which isn't THE rarest game out there but isn't exactly cheap nowadays, especially if you want the original case and manual.
Oh yeah, I have Rival Schools. I also have Tech Romancer on the Dreamcast. GameFan dedicated a whole article to calling it garbage, but it's a great game.
does megaman anniversary collection count?
which game do y'all consider to be the first video game ever created?
The cathode ray tube amusement device
Club Nintendo's final batch is up (http://www.gonintendo.com/s/246350-club-nintendo-na-physical-rewards-update-many-many-digital-games)
STILL no Yoshi Story or Kirby 64 (I would spend coins on them, but not money) but otherwise there is a lot there.
kirby 64 is 2d, right?
Quote from: gunswordfist on February 02, 2015, 12:59:41 PM
kirby 64 is 2d, right?
2D gameplay with 3D graphics. I actually really love the game, but I think that might be due to nostalgia.
i think i remember the commercial. that's about it.
Wonderful 101 for 600 coins.
If I didn't already get this week 1, I would be all over it.
Wonderful 101 was the first Wii U game I bought. :)
I really can't believe I wasted those coins on Zelda 1 for 3DS now, though... argh.
Quote from: Foggle on February 02, 2015, 01:00:57 PM
2D gameplay with 3D graphics. I actually really love the game, but I think that might be due to nostalgia.
Kirby 64 is one of those games that I think escapes the nostalgia label. If anything, the game has gotten better since its release, as it's no longer uncool for a platformer to be 2D.
What do you think of Startropics?
Quote from: talonmalon333 on February 02, 2015, 06:21:58 PM
What do you think of Startropics?
Great little series that should have been given more than it had been given. A new entry that was like ALTTP was to the original games would have been great.
I still hold out hope that one day it'll get revived. It's the only Nintendo series left that deserves some sort of revival.
Maybe, instead of that Zelda game people have been asking them to make, Retro should revive this series as they did with Metroid and DK.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on February 02, 2015, 07:32:43 PM
Maybe, instead of that Zelda game people have been asking them to make, Retro should revive this series as they did with Metroid and DK.
A tropical adventure game with underwater exploration, underground mazes and wacky items/humor could be something special.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 02, 2015, 07:45:43 PM
Quote from: talonmalon333 on February 02, 2015, 07:32:43 PM
Maybe, instead of that Zelda game people have been asking them to make, Retro should revive this series as they did with Metroid and DK.
A tropical adventure game with underwater exploration, underground mazes and wacky items/humor could be something special.
And it's already similar enough to Zelda. So people that have been asking Retro to make a Zelda can't complain much. Meanwhile, Zelda's perfectly capable Aonuma team can continue making their games.
Man, I wish I had the coins for Zoda's Revenge on the Wii, but I think I've blown all of them...
and someone needs to revive guardian legend.
Quote from: gunswordfist on February 02, 2015, 09:04:57 PM
and someone needs to revive guardian legend.
Someone needs to grab hold of Compile's back catalog. Shooter fans would jump on what they had to offer.
what other games are in their library?
Quote from: gunswordfist on February 02, 2015, 09:22:13 PM
what other games are in their library?
A LOT of shooters, I doubt I could list them all. Most of them are really good, too.
My favorite is GUN*NAC which absolutely pushed the NES to its limit for vertical shooters.
will emulate.
The Mario thread had me thinking... GBA was a perfect console for "catching up" on old games. It got ports/remakes of SMB2, SMW, SMW2, SMB3, Metroid, A Link to the Past, Final Fantasy I-VI, Contra III, and more. Plus there was the Classic NES Series where they brought direct ports of NES games to the system.
GBA was a great 16 bit console, similar in power to the SNES. And Nintendo took advantage of that fact.
The GBA is my favorite portable for not only having SNES/Genesis ports but for having brand new 16-bit games that could have easily been made for the systems.
i actually thought it was 32 bit. also, is golden sun 3d?
anyway, i agree with talon. like i said before, it was another snes/genesis era.
Quote from: gunswordfist on February 03, 2015, 06:45:58 PM
i actually thought it was 32 bit. also, is golden sun 3d?
It was 32-bit, but it specialized in 16-bit games. Shame some games like Ninja Five-O or Dragon Ball Advanced Adventure might never get re-released.
Golden Sun is prerendered like DKC or Killer Instinct.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 03, 2015, 06:50:33 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on February 03, 2015, 06:45:58 PM
i actually thought it was 32 bit. also, is golden sun 3d?
It was 32-bit, but it specialized in 16-bit games. Shame some games like Ninja Five-O or Dragon Ball Advanced Adventure might never get re-released.
Golden Sun is prerendered like DKC or Killer Instinct.
Speaking of DKC... what exactly went wrong when they ported those to GBA?
...really? i guess gs being prerendered makes sense once i think about it.
Where are most of the pre-Microsoft Rare people nowadays?
All over the place. I have long since lost where most of them drifted off to.
so sad.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 04, 2015, 06:06:14 PM
All over the place. I have long since lost where most of them drifted off to.
Apparently, some of them might have gotten together to make a Banjo spiritual successor. According to Grant Kirkhope, there may be an announcement in a game magazine this month regarding it. :joy:
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Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 04, 2015, 06:06:14 PM
All over the place. I have long since lost where most of them drifted off to.
Apparently, some of them might have gotten together to make a Banjo spiritual successor. According to Grant Kirkhope, there may be an announcement in a game magazine this month regarding it. :joy:
Yes, I remember that getting shelved due to lack of time for all involved, but it seems to be coming back. I'm definitely interested in seeing what it will be.
I'm still floored that the ex-Rare guys never reformed a new studio. They would make a killing.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 04, 2015, 07:23:47 PM
Yes, I remember that getting shelved due to lack of time for all involved, but it seems to be coming back. I'm definitely interested in seeing what it will be.
I'm still floored that the ex-Rare guys never reformed a new studio. They would make a killing.
Hopefully that's what's happening now. I've also heard rumors that Microsoft has commissioned new Rare to make an actual Banjo 3, but again, they're just rumors.
If both of these things prove true, my inner child will be so happy this year.
Quote from: Foggle on February 04, 2015, 07:03:40 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 04, 2015, 06:06:14 PM
All over the place. I have long since lost where most of them drifted off to.
Apparently, some of them might have gotten together to make a Banjo spiritual successor. According to Grant Kirkhope, there may be an announcement in a game magazine this month regarding it. :joy:
Hopefully that'll be multiplatform.
My guess is that it'd be released for Wii U and PC.
Why not Sony and Microsoft?
If it's a kickstarter, all the systems will probably be in the stretch goals.
Quote from: Foggle on February 04, 2015, 07:57:09 PM
My guess is that it'd be released for Wii U and PC.
The way Nintendo has been going after indie games (they literally sent Yacht Club Games a free dev kit when they formed because of their pedigree) I wouldn't be surprised if they're already in on it.
i just want it for 360.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on February 04, 2015, 08:01:14 PM
Why not Sony and Microsoft?
Wii U and PC are cheaper to develop for, and I have a feeling that a lot of the older Rareware employees may hold some sort of attachment to Nintendo.
Quote from: Foggle on February 04, 2015, 08:14:30 PM
Quote from: talonmalon333 on February 04, 2015, 08:01:14 PM
Why not Sony and Microsoft?
Wii U and PC are cheaper to develop for, and I have a feeling that a lot of the older Rareware employees may hold some sort of attachment to Nintendo.
They all have good relationships with Nintendo. David Wise doing the Tropical Freeze soundtrack is proof of that. The Rare/Nintendo split was pure business, no one got sour over it. Other than fans, I mean.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 04, 2015, 08:19:45 PM
They all have good relationships with Nintendo. David Wise doing the Tropical Freeze soundtrack is proof of that. The Rare/Nintendo split was pure business, no one got sour over it. Other than fans, I mean.
I wouldn't even be surprised if Nintendo publishes the game and the dev team becomes second party like Retro.
Speaking of, imagine a modern Banjo-style collectathon as good as Tropical Freeze. I could die happy.
Quote from: Foggle on February 04, 2015, 08:24:48 PM
I wouldn't even be surprised if Nintendo publishes the game and the dev team becomes second party like Retro.
Speaking of, imagine a modern Banjo-style collectathon as good as Tropical Freeze. I could die happy.
What this post basically says is: DK64 sequel, done right. :P
Quote from: Foggle on February 04, 2015, 08:24:48 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 04, 2015, 08:19:45 PM
They all have good relationships with Nintendo. David Wise doing the Tropical Freeze soundtrack is proof of that. The Rare/Nintendo split was pure business, no one got sour over it. Other than fans, I mean.
I wouldn't even be surprised if Nintendo publishes the game and the dev team becomes second party like Retro.
Speaking of, imagine a modern Banjo-style collectathon as good as Tropical Freeze. I could die happy.
Don't do this to me. If we could get games like Banjo, Perfect Dark, and Jet Force Gemini in a new coat of paint while we wait for the next Retro, Next Level, or Intelligent Systems game, that would be awesome.
Now I'm hyped. Sigh. >:(
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 04, 2015, 08:32:19 PM
Don't do this to me. If we could get games like Banjo, Perfect Dark, and Jet Force Gemini in a new coat of paint while we wait for the next Retro, Next Level, or Intelligent Systems game, that would be awesome.
Now I'm hyped. Sigh. >:(
Mwahahaha! Yes! Let the hype flow through you!
Really, all I want is a good Banjo-Threeie or something equivalent. They promised one at the end of Tooie, and Nuts & Bolts let me down so hard. My inner child can't take much more abuse in this regard.
and battletoads.
Quote from: Foggle on February 04, 2015, 08:36:17 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 04, 2015, 08:32:19 PM
Don't do this to me. If we could get games like Banjo, Perfect Dark, and Jet Force Gemini in a new coat of paint while we wait for the next Retro, Next Level, or Intelligent Systems game, that would be awesome.
Now I'm hyped. Sigh. >:(
Mwahahaha! Yes! Let the hype flow through you!
Really, all I want is a good Banjo-Threeie or something equivalent. They promised one at the end of Tooie, and Nuts & Bolts let me down so hard. My inner child can't take much more abuse in this regard.
For what it's worth, apparently the single player mode in Splatoon (Hero Mode) is a 3D platformer. It should be interesting to see how they do it.
I didn't even know it had a single-player mode!
Quote from: Foggle on February 04, 2015, 09:45:12 PM
I didn't even know it had a single-player mode!
They designed it specifically to be different from the multiplayer mode because they wanted to try new things with the paint mechanics. From the footage I've seen it reminds me a lot of Portal 2 and Jet Grind Radio which excites me. Plus it's a new Nintendo IP.
Yeah, I'm excited.
Like Super Mario Sunshine in reverse, then? I can get down with that.
What was you guys' first console?
The Atari 2600, though I was a bit young to appreciate it.
Well unless Spark as the Odyssey or something, I imagine that's the oldest we'll get. However, I'd still like to hear some others' first consoles. :P
Game Boy Color.
Geez you're so young. Stop it.
I believe mine was the Gameboy Advance.
Nevermind, Foggle. You're old enough.
Game Boy, then Super NES.
Mine was the NES.
yes, spark is old.
Mine was the SNES, but I was too young to really remember it before I destroyed it. I got a PS1 and Genesis around the same time a couple of years later, so those are fresher in my mind.
My sister and I had to share the NES and Sega Genesis we had back in the day, but I consider the N64 the first console I had that was 100% mine.
This past generation contains some of the best downloadable game that might become lost to the ages should the companies not keep up with how Steam works, but nonetheless I wanted to put up a list of the very best original games to come out of this past generation and the transformation of download services into full fledged possible platforms for proper games. So here's a list of the five best games to happen because of the the strides of the last generation.
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1. Mega Man 9
Publisher: Capcom
Developer: Inti-Creates
Platform: WiiWare, phones, XBLA, PSN
Of course, the top of the list has to contain the single best game to come out of the retro revival. Mega Man 9 is a full retail game from the NES era and also contains some clever DLC to complete the modern transition. But what makes this game top the list is that it might be the best game in the series, and that's no joke. Every level not only contains some of the best tunes ever in the series, but the tightest control, most clever level design, and unbelievably cool bosses. And this game is hard. REALLY hard. But that's the way it should be. This is the game that convinced people that download-only games had a future and it still manages to be as great now as it was when it came out. It is also one of the best games from last gen.
(https://sp.yimg.com/ib/th?id=HN.607998792106641181&pid=15.1&P=0)
2. Hard Corps. Uprising
Publisher: Konami
Developer: Arc System Works
Platforms: XBLA, PSN
This one came out of left field. A company primarily known for fighting games comes out with a sidescrolling action platformer in a series well known for being one of the fathers of the genre. It also ended up being one of the best games in the series. You see, this is technically a sequel (prequel?) to spin-off game Contra: Hard Corps. except that outside of having a health bar it is more like classic games in the series like the NES games, Contra 3, or Contra 4. The 8 levels are long, mostly centered on platforming and taking out enemies, and has some hardcore bosses along the way. To be honest, this is the game I wanted back on the PS1 instead of those awful 3D games. Shame it came too late. Oh yeah, the only fault with this game is that there are (optional) DLC characters and yet none of them are Bill Rizer or Lance Bean! Really? ASW? Really?
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.hardcoregamer.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F09%2FDouble-Dragon-Neon-Screen-7.jpg&hash=bfe16b6babb1424e7b1cf24247a1e1d4c39cf754)
3. Double Dragon Neon
Publisher: Majesco Entertainment
Developer: WayForward Technologies
Platforms: XBLA, PSN, PC
Keeping up the trend, WayForward creates the Double Dragon game we could have used on the PS2 with Double Dragon Neon. The humor is not for everybody being a parody of '80s beat em ups and action flicks, but that aside the gameplay is the best in the series with NES Double Dragon II, Super Double Dragon, and Double Dragon Advance, keeping up the DD series reputation of top notch beat em up gameplay. Ten stages broken up by a world map, a shop system and leveling system (that is completely optional), weak attacks and strong attacks, dodging, super moves, and an excellent soundtrack (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCxwNhhGNiM) composed of remixed Double Dragon series classics as well as new themes, this is a full package of game. I do wish there was a 3DS or Vita version for portability, but this game is fun! It's also the last WayForward game directed by Sean Valesco, future director of Shovel Knight. I can't imagine anyone who hasn't grown up with these game not enjoying this one.
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4. Castlevania: The Adventure ReBirth
Publisher: Konami
Developer: M2
Platforms: WiiWare
A remake of the rather turgid original Game Boy title, The Adventure ReBirth is the first real classic style Castlevania game since the 16-bit generation. It clearly seems more modeled after Super Castlevania IV, which helps its accessibility to newcomers (even including a normal jump for those who want it) while still retaining a good deal of difficulty for series fans. The ReBirth series on WiWare only consisted of three games, but they are all well worth your time-- this just happens to be the best one. A fan of classic platformers? This was one of the best of the previous generation.
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages.nintendolife.com%2Fscreenshots%2F23227%2Flarge.jpg&hash=298eeef439244d9b31ced15d17776a4060c43edf)
5. Blaster Master: Overdrive
Publisher: Sunsoft
Developer: Sunsoft
Platforms: WiiWare
You know, the strangest thing about this game is that it exists at all. Essentially a sequel to the NES game, Overdrive is just as brutally hard but with improved controls and level design. Part Metroidvania, part overhead shooter, Blaster Master has always enjoyed limited success, but I personally feel that this game deserves more attention. Yet again, this series has been sinking in irrelevance since the 16-bit days and a game like this proves it still has plenty of life in it. And once again, it wouldn't exist if not for download services.
So that's my list. What have you guys got?
hmmm...spelunky hd, shoot1up, shank 2...i think that's all of the last dl-only titles i have completed.
i never really list my favorite ps1 games so in no order:
einhander
final fantasy viii
final fantasy ix
tomba!
castlevania sotn
rayman
crash 3
crash team racing
vigilante 8
vigilante 8 second offense
spyro
resident evil 2 disc 1
resident evil 3
Best PS1 games? That's tough. I'll keep it to exclusives.
Crash Bandicoot 2: Cortex Strikes Back
Brave Fencer Musashi
Tomba!
Klonoa: Door to Phantomile
Crash Team Racing
Suikoden
Suikoden 2
Legend of Mana
Crash Bandicoot: Warped
Twisted Metal 2
silly question: what are klonoa and legend of mana like?
Quote from: gunswordfist on February 11, 2015, 06:56:53 PM
silly question: what are klonoa and legend of mana like?
Klonoa is a 2.5D platformer (one of the first!) and Legend of Mana is an Action RPG with a ton of variety about how you want to play it.
Both are on PSN.
so legend is like secret?
heh, i never really thought about when 2.5 platformers started.
Legend of Mana is very much a "choose your own adventure" style action RPG. There's no real narrative aside from quests you choose to do. It's very innovative yet a lot of fun like the other 3 core Mana games.
sounds like my kind of game.
Resident Evil
Resident Evil 2
Metal Gear Solid
Dragon Seeds
Final Fantasy VII
Spyro the Dragon
Twisted Metal 2
Silent Hill
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
I haven't played Suikoken II yet.
I want to get all the Klonoa games someday. :)
My favorite PS1 games:
Alundra
Castlevania: Symphony of the Night
Crash Bandicoot 2
Fear Effect 2
Parasite Eve
Persona 2 (Innocent Sin & Eternal Punishment)
Resident Evil 2
Silent Hill
Suikoden 2
Vagrant Story
A lot of good games I didn't list. The PS1 was a great console.
Quote from: Foggle on February 11, 2015, 09:29:16 PM
I want to get all the Klonoa games someday. :)
They're all fairly short and easy, but they're so enjoyable, creative, and fun that it just doesn't matter. Klonoa 1 (PS1 and Wii) and 2 (PS2) are gems and the GBA games are really good, too.
Shame Namco doesn't appear to like the series very much anymore.
i have never played resident evil 1, metal gear solid, twisted metal 2 (maybe a little), final fantasy vii, silent hill, vagrant story, parasite eve, fear effect 2 (or 1), suidoken 2 (or 1), persona 2 and alundra.
Suikoden II really benefits if you play through Suikoden I and get all 108 Stars of Destiny then take that save into the sequel. Not only do you get to have the protagonist of the original game in your party, but it enriches the story far more if you do.
that sounds amazing...is there any legal way to do that?
ps1 seemed to use saves for bonus material a lot. a remember a few racing games gave you special cars for having saves from games in other genres.
You beat the game with all 108 characters (or download a save that has it, I think that's legal) then start Suikoden II and load off the Suikoden I data. You get a few new scenarios and dialogues when you do.
I do want to get around to the first two Suikoden games, if nothing else. I also would like to play the other three, but I'm not sure I have the time for that. Suikoden II is a definite, though. Thankfully it's been released on PSN as I wasn't going to pay the high prices it demands online.
It's one of the few game series I'd recommend using a guide for recruiting characters. Unfortunately, there are a lot of miss-able characters and getting them all in both games gives you the best ending and a lot more characters to use and abilities for your fortress.
Otherwise, if you like RPGs, you're very likely to enjoy the series.
Nice to see something like that standing up to the wave of great Square RPGs of its era.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on February 11, 2015, 10:34:19 PM
Nice to see something like that standing up to the wave of great Square RPGs of its era.
Suikoden and Vandal Hearts were both really good. Konami at one time had its foot in the RPG door. It has since lost all that like they've lost everything else.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 11, 2015, 10:35:59 PMthey've lost everything else.
No they haven't. They still have
Castlevania Silent Hill Suikoden Contra Metal Gear Solid! They still have Metal Gear Solid.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on February 11, 2015, 10:44:26 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 11, 2015, 10:35:59 PMthey've lost everything else.
No they haven't. They still have Castlevania Silent Hill Suikoden Contra Metal Gear Solid! They still have Metal Gear Solid.
Coming soon: Metal Gear Solid VI: Space Dinosaurs from the Grave starring Baby Snake!
In all seriousness, Konami's (and Capcom's) fall from gaming grace has been one of the biggest disappointments of the last generation to me.
I have a question about the Retron 5. Is that thing... legal? I'm just wondering out of curiosity.
Quote from: talonmalon333 on February 15, 2015, 09:31:32 PM
I have a question about the Retron 5. Is that thing... legal? I'm just wondering out of curiosity.
Yes, since it's reverse engineering. If it actually took the components from an actual NES or SNES, that would be illegal. But they're re-programming it from scratch, hence why certain games have emulation issues.
How old were you guys when you first started playing video games?
I believe I was around 7 or so. My first console was the GBA and my first game(s) were Pokemon Blue and Yellow.
My first ever console that I actually remember playing was the Super Nintendo, and I was about 4 years old and had no clue what the hell I was doing. I believe that my first game was Super Mario World.
I was 4 or 5, I think.
I think either 3-5 or something. Used to play NES & SNES games at around the same time due to having an older brother.
My parents gave me a Game Boy Color for my 6th birthday, but the terrible Bugs Bunny game didn't hold my attention for very long and I quickly went back to such unrefined activities as "reading" and "going outside." The following Christmas, my grandparents gave me my second game: Super Mario Bros. I've been addicted ever since. :)
Quote from: Foggle on February 25, 2015, 02:47:34 PM
My parents gave me a Game Boy Color for my 6th birthday, but the terrible Bugs Bunny game didn't hold my attention for very long and I quickly went back to such unrefined activities as "reading" and "going outside." The following Christmas, my grandparents gave me my second game: Super Mario Bros. I've been addicted ever since. :)
Was it Crazy Castle?
It was this disgrace to programming:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O2fMjgOnLE
Here's a topic I've always found fun:
Were there any non-horror games that scared you as a kid? I remember renting Ocarina of Time when I was 8 and I had to take it back to the video store after 30 minutes because the spiders in the Deku Tree made me too terrified to continue playing.
Also, this bit from Donkey Kong 64 ruled my night terrors for years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ySQ_8FI9DHk It actually managed to spook me again on my most recent playthrough a few months ago!
Almost any 3D game with fog, really.
DOOM scared me pretty good, actually. So did Duke Nukem 3D. Those pig cops creeped me out.
Quote from: Foggle on February 25, 2015, 02:57:00 PM
It was this disgrace to programming:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3O2fMjgOnLE
Oh wow. He's eating a grey banana and repeatedly killing Daffy . . . for no reason. The level design makes no sense and loops the same things over and over again.
I just assumed it was Crazy Castle because it seemed like everyone I ever met had played it at some point. It wasn't very good, but it wasn't
this. :-X
My parents actually almost got me Crazy Castle they said, but the dude at the game store told them it was awful and advised them to get this one instead. Really. :-\
What you can't see in that video is the fucking fall damage. If you drop nearly any distance longer than 10 feet without using Lola's umbrella, you die. It's wonderful.
Quote from: Foggle on February 25, 2015, 03:22:24 PM
My parents actually almost got me Crazy Castle they said, but the dude at the game store told them it was awful and advised me to get this one instead. Really. :-\
Oh, owww. CC isn't great or anything, but it looks far better than this.
Quote from: Foggle on February 25, 2015, 03:22:24 PMWhat you can't see in that video is the fucking fall damage. If you drop nearly any distance longer than 10 feet without using Lola's umbrella, you die. It's wonderful.
Platformers will fall damage always irk me. I think only Donkey Kong '94 did it right since you had to learn to tuck and roll, plus landing on springs or water would save you from death.
I was afraid of that shark in Banjo-Kazooie since I remembered it one-shotting me a couple of times. :<
I was very young when I got my Game Boy in 1990 or 1991, but it was the Super NES that I got for Christmas 1991 that got me hooked. I didn't even know what "Nintendo" was until I got my SNES. I still have my OG Game Boy and SNES all these years later, and they both still work fine.
It's funny that you mention OoT, because both the Forest and Shadow temples creeped the fuck out as a kid. The well that you use to go underground as kid link was the worst for me. I used to beg my older brother to walk me through those sections, because I couldn't sit there playing them alone.
Oh, and I never used to know what a Wallmaster was. I literally jumped in fright the first time that one snatched me up in the Forest Temple and Link screamed in the game.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 25, 2015, 03:29:04 PM
Platformers will fall damage always irk me. I think only Donkey Kong '94 did it right since you had to learn to tuck and roll, plus landing on springs or water would save you from death.
That's my biggest complaint with Rareware's N64 platformers. Falling off and dying in Click Clock Wood when you have 96 notes (yes, this has happened to me) is the worst thing ever. Thankfully, the 360 version fixes this problem by saving your notes between deaths/loads.
I will say that I
did enjoy the Bugs Bunny game as a kid, though. I didn't love it or anything, but I was so thrilled that my family got me a Game Boy that I played it a lot. It made me really happy. :)
Quote from: Daxdiv on February 25, 2015, 03:31:59 PM
I was afraid of that shark in Banjo-Kazooie since I remembered it one-shotting me a couple of times. :<
Same here! :shit:
I believe I was in the 4 age range. I forget exactly who bought it for us, but my brother and I got a Sega Genesis and Sonic. When I was that young, all of the Sonic games on the Genesis were the ones we spent the most time with, though we also had others. I didn't play much back then, it was mostly my brother while I just observed. I mostly played as second player in games. We also started playing SNES a little later on, among which were Super Mario World and All-Stars. A Link to the Past was also among those games, which was a massive part of my young years and was my first step into that series. We got a PlayStation when I was 6-7, by which point I was actually a video game fan.
Quote from: Daxdiv on February 25, 2015, 03:31:59 PM
I was afraid of that shark in Banjo-Kazooie since I remembered it one-shotting me a couple of times. :<
I think any swimming segment in 3D games creeped me out for a long time because of the cumbersome controls and because there was a lot of disturbing stuff in the water. Mario 64's swimming levels say it all.
The last time a 3D platformer creeped me out was that shark-thing in the original Jak & Daxter. Don't know what it is with water and 3D games.
Quote from: Dr. Ensatsu-ken on February 25, 2015, 03:33:36 PM
It's funny that you mention OoT, because both the Forest and Shadow temples creeped the fuck out as a kid. The well that you use to go underground as kid link was the worst for me. I used to beg my older brother to walk me through those sections, because I couldn't sit there playing them alone.
Oh, and I never used to know what a Wallmaster was. I literally jumped in fright the first time that one snatched me up in the Forest Temple and Link screamed in the game.
OoT and MM were fucking frightening as a kid, seriously. I'd like to see an E-rated game get away with some of that stuff nowadays. :lol:
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 25, 2015, 03:36:10 PM
The last time a 3D platformer creeped me out was that shark-thing in the original Jak & Daxter. Don't know what it is with water and 3D games.
Apparently that thing is called a sharkagator, and it was the only "enemy" used by both Naughty Dog and Insomniac in their PS2 platformers. :lol:
Speaking of J&D, the giant spider chase in Jak 2 was pretty spooky. Yeesh.
Quote from: Foggle on February 25, 2015, 03:38:57 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on February 25, 2015, 03:36:10 PM
The last time a 3D platformer creeped me out was that shark-thing in the original Jak & Daxter. Don't know what it is with water and 3D games.
Apparently that thing is called a sharkagator, and it was the only "enemy" used by both Naughty Dog and Insomniac in their PS2 platformers. :lol:
I knew there was a reason the water in Ratchet & Clank creeped me out!
Another memory of something that scared me as a kid was that tiger from the first level of Tomb Raider 2, which I always dreaded running into because I utterly sucked at shooting stuff. I also sucked at the game in general, and never managed to get very far in it, but it was always a relief to make it past that goddamn tiger.
Resident Evil scared me when I used to play it at my cousin's house. I mean, I was probably 8 years old by then, but we always came back to it. :P
I was like 3, I think, when I got my SNES. I had Super Mario All-Stars (which as you probably know, I still have), the first World (which I can't find, but have soon replaced), and the Dennis the Menace game. Even then, I knew that the Mario games were where it was at.
As for being scared, I can't really think of anything. Majora's Mask was creepy, but even that didn't really frighten me.
Not to go off-topic, but:
Toejam & Earl has just opened a kickstarter! (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1578116861/toejam-and-earl-back-in-the-groove?ref=discovery)
A friend snagged me a Mega Man amiibo.
Wow. Wasn't expecting that!
Good, cause Mega Man amiibo is hard to come by right now.
I feel like the first Toejam & Earl hasn't aged well.
my first console was nes. i think super mario bros. was my first game. i still have never beaten it.
I remember a boss getting eaten by a monster in contra hard corps scaring me as a kid.
except in smb 1 and a transformation in majora's mask, i have never liked swimming in games.
Wayne's World NES is going for over 100 bucks for just the cart on eBay, I had no idea it was worth that much, I got it in box for like $20 a year or two ago. I don't get it, the game is trash, it's on the same level as Jaws or Top Gun or Back to the Future for NES, which all go for like 5 bucks. What makes Wayne's World so special?
Quote from: Speedy on February 16, 2015, 09:13:29 AM
Quote from: talonmalon333 on February 15, 2015, 09:31:32 PM
I have a question about the Retron 5. Is that thing... legal? I'm just wondering out of curiosity.
Yes, since it's reverse engineering. If it actually took the components from an actual NES or SNES, that would be illegal. But they're re-programming it from scratch, hence why certain games have emulation issues.
Responding to this weeks later because lately I've been hearing that the Retron 5 apparently stole its emulator directly from another source. http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/09/hyperkins_retron_5_console_allegedly_infringes_on_the_rights_of_multiple_emulator_authors
This is why we can't have good things!
Random thought, but are there any good plugs that can be used to connect old consoles (NES, SNES, etc.) to an HD TV without stretching and ruining the game's visuals?
Quote from: talonmalon333 on March 04, 2015, 07:55:42 PM
Quote from: Speedy on February 16, 2015, 09:13:29 AM
Quote from: talonmalon333 on February 15, 2015, 09:31:32 PM
I have a question about the Retron 5. Is that thing... legal? I'm just wondering out of curiosity.
Yes, since it's reverse engineering. If it actually took the components from an actual NES or SNES, that would be illegal. But they're re-programming it from scratch, hence why certain games have emulation issues.
Responding to this weeks later because lately I've been hearing that the Retron 5 apparently stole its emulator directly from another source. http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2014/09/hyperkins_retron_5_console_allegedly_infringes_on_the_rights_of_multiple_emulator_authors
Yeah, it was a minor controversy when the console was announced, and it did turn some away from purchasing the console.
Do you know anything about these?
Quote from: talonmalon333 on March 05, 2015, 01:20:32 PM
Random thought, but are there any good plugs that can be used to connect old consoles (NES, SNES, etc.) to an HD TV without stretching and ruining the game's visuals?
This is what I currently have on my Virtual Console collection.
NES-
Zoda's Revenge
Genesis-
Shinobi III: Revenge of the Ninja Master
Gunstar Heroes
Neo Geo-
Samurai Shodown II
SNES-
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Super Metroid
N64-
The Legend of Zelda: Majora's Mask
Mario Tennis
I really should get more for it.
That's a good selection. If you want genre suggestions, you know we're good for it. ;)
I actually have exactly 500 points left, which I was thinking about using for either a SMS game or one of the first 2 Ninja Gaidens, but I might end up buying more points with my own money the next time I head back.
I'm thinking of picking up DKC 2, since somehow it's harder to find a physical copy of it here than 3. That'll set me back $25, but from what I can, that's not too bad at all for the game.
Oh yeah, the DKC2 cart is worth it. It's one of the game carts I've managed to hold onto (like Yoshi's Island) since I wasn't sure how likely a re-release of the game would be.
Of course now it's on GBA, the VC, and the Wii U VC, but I didn't know that at the time.
Oh, I meant that I can get the cart for DKC 3, not 2. At least not right now, but the guy that I get most of my older games from is pretty good about having stuff come and go regularly.
He also has Mega Man X for the same price. 2 as well, but that's a bit more. Not nearly as much as Earthbound though, which he has for $200.
X2, X3, and Earthbound are very hard to come by. Glad I got my copies of those a long time ago!
DKC3 is probably worth it. I'm not exactly sure how rare that one is though.
I don't think it's super rare, but games made at the end of a Nintendo console's lifecycle are usually not the easiest, or cheapest to show up.
That explains why Banjo-Tooie usually costs more than Kazooie, and why I found the Gamecube version of Twilight Princess for a surprisingly hefty price that day.
Mail came today, and I got a Star Fox cart!
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi968.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae164%2FSNES_Chalmers%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsooqeddzv.jpg&hash=66fc69099167ee05d431293f94a5a242b7693dcf)
Do you think it plays the same as the Nintendo versions?
Speaking of the HVGN, is Wild Guns worth a VC purchase? It sounds like a fun one.
And how about Axelay?
I was actually just playing Axelay today.
Amazing game. Really creative, really tight, really cool... really hard. It's the best shmup on the SNES VC, though, so if you like the genre you should really like it. It was also Treasure's last game with Konami before they left.
Wild Guns is really fun, too, but it's a Cabal-style shooter which not many people like.
I guess it would depend on which style of shooter you'd prefer to play.
Both sound up my alley!
Just like I aspire to have a great Wii collection, I intend to do the same for the VC. So I'll try to save up for both, among a few others, when I can.
I'm still hoping someone puts back up R-Type III on the SNES VC. It's the other excellent SNES VC shmup on a system that doesn't have too many of them.
The VC is great for retro gamers. Straight ports/emulations of old games made readily available is nice. Especially when you throw in Sega and Hudson systems on top of it. I do wish they would put up arcade games from the late 80s and 90s, though. Those games never get the re-releases they deserve.
I honestly don't use the VC much anymore, at least for Nintendo and Sega stuff, instead I try to seek out the actual cartridges. I have an actual Wild Guns cart versus the VC version for example. I understand it's use for people that aren't necessarily game collectors though, or it's use for systems such as the Turbografx, which can be difficult to collect for. I just personally prefer to play the actual cart on the actual hardware if I can, ultimately the VC is just another (albeit official) emulator.
However I did buy the DKC games on the Wii U when they put them up, despite owning all three SNES versions complete in box.
Its nice having the cartridges. I feel like there will always be slight imperfections playing old games on new consoles not made for them. Thats why I am glad to have brought back my old consoles. I wouldn't necessarily call VC a non-collector thing, though. More just if you don't own the old consoles for one reason or another.
Admittedly though, I do wish Nintendo would retain backward compatibility for all their disk-based consoles (going back as far as GCN). It'd also be nice to retain GB Player capability.
EDIT:
I think VC is best for games that weren't released in America back in the day, or games that are just too expensive in cartridge form.
I'm mainly using the VC for games that are harder to find copies of for a reasonable price, and/or for consoles I don't see myself buying in the near future.
Like, I'd never buy Yoshi's Island for it, but I'm definitely considering Super Mario RPG.
If it wasn't for the VC I never would have been able to pay Sega for the excellent Monster World IV or Super Fantasy Zone.
Plus it's a lot easier than having multiple systems connected to one TV.
I still have a copy of this tape. (http://www.gonintendo.com/s/250091-blast-from-the-past-donkey-kong-country-exposed-an-official-nintendo-promo-video)
The game really was mind-blowing at the time.
Aww, the mainline Pokemon games aren't on the 3DS VC.
Oh well.
No, without trading implemented (and with the remakes always coming out) they probably never will be.
Recently got a couple of Konami gems.
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi968.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fae164%2FSNES_Chalmers%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsr41mjup8.jpg&hash=4fc8feb4b6e4af30667a834002b26dac1970d68c)
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Been chasing a Turtles in Time box for a few years now(still have my loose childhood cart though), finally bit the bullet and got this one. Both of these have effectively killed my video game budget for this month, but it was worth it.
Also got Sonic Wings, which is the Super Famicom version of Aero Fighters, AKA one of the rarest/most valuable North American SNES games.
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Amazing! I love Turtles In Time's box art.
Duuuude! (http://www.gonintendo.com/s/251017-sega-s-3d-classics-return-this-summer-with-sega-genesis-games-for-nintendo-3ds)
In case you didn't want to read it, the 3DS is getting 3 classic Sega Genesis games done in the 3D Classics style:
Sonic the Hedgehog 2
Streets of Rage 2
Gunstar Heroes
Excellent choices. Will be getting all three. Now hopefully Streets of Rage 3, Sonic 3 & Knuckles, Comic Zone, Vectorman, Vectorman 2, and Ristar follow!
It would be interesting to see how they would look in 3D.
If Shinobi III is anything to go by, they'll look incredible in 3D.
I like that Kickstarter can make games like this happen. (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/439982171/new-snes-game-sydney-hunter-and-the-caverns-of-dea/description)
This looks like my kind of game, but I'd much prefer playing it on the eShop, so I hope it hits that stretch goal. Still, it's good to see people going out of their way to make new games for old systems like this.
Favorite graphics per console:
3. Dreamcast
1. GBA/Sega Genesis
I just love how a lot of the games on these 3 look.
I might do a replay of Shining Force 1 just to unlock all of the secret characters. It's a shame that II had so few optional characters.
This is the full list of games they found while data crawling. Keep in mind it's all JP and EU releases. Some of these are out here but not over there and vice versa.
Wii U Virtual Console
1080* Snowboarding (N64) [JP]
Adventures of Bayou Billy, The (NES) [JP]
Bishoujo Janshi Suchie-Pai (SNES) [JP]
Chu Chu Rocket! (GBA) [JP]
City Connection (NES) [JP]
Contra Advance: The Alien Wars EX (GBA) [JP]
Darius Twin (SNES) [JP]
Dig Dug 2 (NES) [EU]
Dig Dug 2 (NES) [JP]
Drill Dozer (GBA) [JP]
F-Zero Climax (GBA) [JP]
Field Combat (NES) [JP]
Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon (NDS) [JP]
Formation Z (NES) [JP]
Front Line (NES) [JP]
Game & Watch Gallery 4 (GBA) [JP]
Ganbare Goemon Gaiden: The Mystical Pipe Which Disappeared (SNES) [JP]
Hogan's Alley (NES) [EU]
Hogan's Alley (NES) [JP]
Ignition Factor, The (SNES) [JP]
International Track & Field 2 (MSX) [JP]
King's Knight (NES) [JP]
Kirby: Canvas Curse (NDS) [JP]
Kirby: Mass Attack (NDS) [JP]
Klonoa 2: Dream Champ Tournament (GBA) [JP]
Kururin Paradise (GBA) [JP]
Konami Krazy Racers (GBA) [JP]
Legend of the River King 3 & 4 (GBA) [JP]
Legend of the River King 5 (GBA) [JP]
Legend of Zelda: Ocarina of Time, The (N64) [JP]
Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass, The (NDS) [JP]
Legend of Zelda: Spirit Tracks, The (NDS) [JP]
Legendary Starfi 2 (GBA) [JP]
Legendary Starfi 3 (GBA) [JP]
Majin Tensei II: Spiral Nemesis (SNES) [JP]
Mario Kart 64 (N64) [JP]
Mario Party Advance (GBA) [JP]
Mario Tennis (N64) [JP]
Mario Vs Donkey Kong 2: March of the Minis (NDS) [JP]
Medabots: Metabee Version (GBA) [JP]
Medabots: Rokusho Version (GBA) [JP]
Medabots Navi: Kabuto Version (GBA) [JP]
Medabots Navi: Kuwagata Version (GBA) [JP]
Mega Man Battle Network 4.5: Real Operation (NDS) [JP]
Mega Man Battle Network 6: Cybeast Falzar (GBA) [JP]
Mega Man Battle Network 6: Cybeast Gregar (GBA) [JP]
Metal Slader Glory: Director's Cut (SNES) [JP]
Metro Cross (NES) [JP]
Moeri Twinbee: Rescue Dr. Cinnamon! (NES) [JP]
Onimusha Tactics (GBA) [JP]
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (GBA)(NDS) [JP]
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Justice for All (GBA)(NDS) [JP]
Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Blue Rescue Team (NDS) [JP]
Pokémon Ranger (NDS) [JP]
Polarium Advance (GBA) [JP]
Power Instinct (SNES) [JP]
Sennen Kazoku (GBA) [JP]
Shining Force: Resurrection of the Dark Dragon (GBA) [JP]
Shining Soul (GBA) [JP]
Shining Soul II (GBA) [JP]
Sin & Punishment (N64) [JP]
Sonic Advance 2 (GBA) [JP]
Sonic Advance 3 (GBA) [JP]
Space Invaders: The Original Game (SNES) [JP]
Star Fox 64 (N64) [JP]
Star Fox Command (NDS) [JP]
Star Luster (NES) [JP]
Super Mario 64 DS (NDS) [JP]
Super Mario All-Stars (SNES) [JP]
Treasure of the Rudras (SNES) [JP]
Tsukikomori (SNES) [JP]
Wagan Land 2 (NES) [JP]
Wild Gunman (NES) [EU]
Wild Gunman (NES) [JP]
Wrecking Crew '98 (SNES) [JP]
Yoshi: Touch & Go! (NDS) [JP]
Wii games on Wii U
Kiki Trick [JP]
Kirby's Epic Yarn [JP]
Legend of Zelda: Skyward Sword, The [JP]
Mario Strikers Charged Football [JP]
Mario Super Sluggers [JP]
Metroid: Other M [JP]
New Super Mario Bros. Wii [EU]
New Super Mario Bros. Wii [JP]
Poképark Wii: Pikachu's Adventure [JP]
Super Paper Mario [JP]
Wario Land: Shake It [JP]
Xenoblade Chronicles [JP]
Wii U games
Kamen Rider Summon Ride! [EU]
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess HD, The [JP]
Again, it looks like Twilight Princess is going to be a whole new release like Wind Waker.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 14, 2015, 10:18:49 PM
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney (GBA)(NDS) [JP]
Phoenix Wright: Ace Attorney: Justice for All (GBA)(NDS) [JP]
Foggle... (http://animationrevelation.com/forum/index.php?topic=1396.msg95580#msg95580)
...is Shining Force GBA any good?
Quote from: gunswordfist on October 14, 2015, 10:42:00 PM
...is Shining Force GBA any good?
I only played the Shining Soul games (Which are tons of fun dungeon crawlers), but the Shining Force game is a remake of the first Genesis game. It apparently has a much better translation than the original game.
Almost had a heart attack when I saw no Zero Mission. Then I re-read your post and realized it was just JP and EU upcoming releases. :sweat: Seriously, I want that game on my TV so bad.
The lack of Mario Advance 4 is weird, but as long as we get All-Stars, I'm good. Though that does make me wish I hadn't already bought Advance 1 and World...
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 14, 2015, 10:48:47 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on October 14, 2015, 10:42:00 PM
...is Shining Force GBA any good?
I only played the Shining Soul games (Which are tons of fun dungeon crawlers), but the Shining Force game is a remake of the first Genesis game. It apparently has a much better translation than the original game.
Hmm...might have to try that out.
I didn't even notice All Stars. That's great. Much better than when they celebrated it on Wii for Mario's anniversary.
They'll save Advance 4 for last to get those who bought All-Stars to double dip for the e-reader levels, I'm sure.
Still, I'm glad All-Stars is there at all. Shame it probably won't be the one with World that includes Luigi in it.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 14, 2015, 11:00:38 PMShame it probably won't be the one with World that includes Luigi in it.
What?
Quote from: talonmalon333 on October 14, 2015, 11:02:03 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 14, 2015, 11:00:38 PMShame it probably won't be the one with World that includes Luigi in it.
What?
This was a thing. (http://www.mariowiki.com/Super_Mario_All-Stars_%2B_Super_Mario_World)
Ah, you mean the sprite difference. That's what I was wondering about. I never liked seeing Luigi in the old games as just Mario in green clothes.
Looks like the DS remake of Mario 64 is also getting a release on Wii U. Would that remake be any good if distanced from the original DS's D-pad?
You'd still have a run button, so it still wouldn't be analog. I'd say it's worth it if you're a SM64 fan who wants to play as Luigi, Yoshi, or Wario, though.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on October 14, 2015, 11:17:37 PM
You'd still have a run button, so it still wouldn't be analog.
Wasn't Chrono Trigger the same? And that worked with the 3DS's control stick, if I remember correctly.
Speaking of Chrono Trigger, they should release the DS version onto Wii U Virtual Console. That's assuming they don't do the updated port that they obviously should do (DS version with the sound and image quality of the SNES version).
The DS version of Chrono Trigger is, as of now, still the best version of the game.
Bitmap Books has a Kickstarter up for a visual compendium of NES/Famicom games. (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2146199819/nintendo-entertainment-system-famicom-a-visual-com/description)
Looks like a good idea for retro gamers.
Massively cool idea from Nintendo! (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/07/14-1/nintendo-to-release-mini-nes-packed-with-final-fantasy-and-other-classic-games)
The full list of included games:
Balloon Fight
BUBBLE BOBBLE
Castlevania
Castlevania II: Simon's Quest
Donkey Kong
Donkey Kong Jr.
DOUBLE DRAGON II: THE REVENGE
Dr. Mario
Excitebike
FINAL FANTASY
Galaga
GHOSTS'N GOBLINS
GRADIUS
Ice Climber
Kid Icarus
Kirby's Adventure
Mario Bros.
MEGA MAN 2
Metroid
NINJA GAIDEN
PAC-MAN
Punch-Out!! Featuring Mr. Dream
StarTropics
SUPER C
Super Mario Bros.
Super Mario Bros. 2
Super Mario Bros. 3
TECMO BOWL
The Legend of Zelda
Zelda II: The Adventure of Link
Shame it doesn't include Contra, Castlevania III, or Ninja Gaiden II, but that's an insanely cool idea. I hope they do one for the SNES and include Yoshi's Island.
Contra would have made this an absolute must.
But I'm really intrigued by the idea regardless.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 14, 2016, 10:38:43 AM
Massively cool idea from Nintendo! (http://www.crunchyroll.com/anime-news/2016/07/14-1/nintendo-to-release-mini-nes-packed-with-final-fantasy-and-other-classic-games)
The full list of included games:
Balloon Fight
BUBBLE BOBBLE
Castlevania
Castlevania II: Simon's Quest
Donkey Kong
Donkey Kong Jr.
DOUBLE DRAGON II: THE REVENGE
Dr. Mario
Excitebike
FINAL FANTASY
Galaga
GHOSTS'N GOBLINS
GRADIUS
Ice Climber
Kid Icarus
Kirby's Adventure
Mario Bros.
MEGA MAN 2
Metroid
NINJA GAIDEN
PAC-MAN
Punch-Out!! Featuring Mr. Dream
StarTropics
SUPER C
Super Mario Bros.
Super Mario Bros. 2
Super Mario Bros. 3
TECMO BOWL
The Legend of Zelda
Zelda II: The Adventure of Link
Shame it doesn't include Contra, Castlevania III, or Ninja Gaiden II, but that's an insanely cool idea. I hope they do one for the SNES and include Yoshi's Island.
Oh whoa, Nintendo really wants my money! I only own Mega Man 2 out of all of those. Hopefully they do release one with those 3 games and more. And a SNES one would make a killing.
This would make for a perfect birthday present or Christmas gift.
In all honesty, this offer actually kind of excites me more than getting any current-gen console as of right now. Not to say that I don't want a Wii U or PS4, but it's kind of hard to beat this line-up.
New stages and characters in new Wild Guns Reloaded trailer!!
https://t.co/hJ6xC3Z9Gl (https://t.co/hJ6xC3Z9Gl)
Looks awesome. I like how they made the two new characters completely different from the original two.
The Genesis is coming back. (http://www.ubergizmo.com/2016/11/sega-genesis-going-back-into-production/) And not in pog form!
Namco founder Masaya Nakamura passed away. (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/masaya-nakamura-japanese-arcade-pioneer-father-of-pac-man-dead)
R.I.P. I need to read up on Nakamura's accomplishments.
I got the preview copy of the NES art book I kickstarted a while back. I think just about every classic was included shy of TMNT III, Rockin' Kats, Tiny Toon Adventures, and Mega Man 5 and 6. And I mean they went deep: Little Samson, Super Spy Hunter, Gimmick!, Metal Storm, Journey To Silius, Shatterhand, and Vice Project Doom, are all included. They even show off some homebrew, import only, and unreleased games.
Very nice stuff.
:o Any chance that it has Sweet Home as well?
Quote from: gunswordfist on February 03, 2017, 05:34:15 PM
:o Any chance that it has Sweet Home as well?
Yep, it's there.
:worship: Send me a link!
Quote from: gunswordfist on February 03, 2017, 07:39:30 PM
:worship: Send me a link!
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2146199819/nintendo-entertainment-system-famicom-a-visual-com (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2146199819/nintendo-entertainment-system-famicom-a-visual-com)
It should be shipping out next week.
I've been playing Super Mario 64. Not sure why. Maybe I just wanted to get used to the old formula before Super Mario Odyssey drops.
The camera is still annoying, the controls are not that tight (you can die by being pushed or hit a second time because Mario won't GET UP ALREADY), and the level design is still a mixed bag. The game is never going to be a favorite of mine.
I would be one to call Super Mario 64 Nintendo's most overrated game, but I mean that in what the term actually means. It's simply a good game with tremendous influence which has its flaws painted over and ignored. Its formula was improved in games that came later like Banjo Kazooie and Jak & Daxter, which also had better controls and level design, and also didn't do the annoying thing of kicking you out of a level for reaching one objective and being unable to complete others. So much for "non-linearity" when you can't take full advantage of it. It has 15 levels, which is more than those other games, but a bunch of them are really no fun at all.
As for levels that are fun, well, there's Bob-Omb Battlefield, Whomp's Fortress, Cool Cool Mountain, Big Boo's Haunt, Lethal Lava Land, Dire Dire Docks, Tall Tall Mountain, and Tick Tock Clock. These are all rather tightly designed where every challenge involves platforming or scaling the environment in some way that is unique. These levels also work with the controls and camera instead of against them and have some fairly inventive goals.
All the other levels waver between decent at times (Shifting Sand Land) to outright annoying due to camera and controls (Rainbow Ride) to some with just empty and barren level design (Jolly Roger Bay) that offer little to the player.
So while I still am not crazy about the game, it is fairly good at what it does. Most of the time.
It's still better than Sunshine though.
I feel the same way about Mario 64, though I probably like it a bit more than you do. It's definitely a good and important game, but the controls haven't really clicked with me since the early 2000's, and it just isn't as engaging as the Banjo games or J&D to me. You should see the people on NeoGAF who claim that it has "perfect controls and camera" and "the best 3D platforming physics to this day." Dear lord.
As for Sunshine, I love everything about its presentation - the graphics, the colors, the music - and I think the core level design is excellent. Unfortunately, most of the objectives simply aren't fun, with some being ridiculously difficult for no reason.
The perfect camera that you have to adjust all the time and constantly gets stuck behind scenery, and the perfect controls that won't let you jump if Mario is on a slight incline and decides to slide you down it instead. Right. Even wall-jumping is really finicky.
The physics I especially don't see. I've died many times because Mario decided to bump into a wall instead of grabbing a ledge or the sluggish start up time on his run randomly locking me out of the triple jump. That boulder part in Hazy Maze Cave drained my entire health bar because I got hit by one, and every time I finally stood up, I got knocked down again by another boulder without being able to move. That never happens in the other 3D Mario games.
As I said, it's a fine game that can be fun a times, but I wasn't big on it when it came out and, unlike BK and J&D, I haven't come around on it. I think higher of it now, but it's never going to rock my world.
What's weird is that despite my feelings on 64 and Sunshine as not as good as the other 3D Mario games, I'm actually really hyped for Odyssey. Nintendo has perfected 3D Mario controls, camera, and level design, to the extent that they hadn't quite gotten in the old days. I'm really eager to see how they take that old formula and improve on it. Same reason I'm hyped for Yooka Laylee.
Yeah, I gave up on my most recent playthrough because I kept falling to my death on this one particular jump that the physics seemed outright determined to not let me make. I have no idea what these folks are thinking.
Mario Odyssey is going to be amazing! I'm not completely sold on the Switch yet (though I'll definitely be getting one somewhere down the line), but that game looks like exactly what I want from a 3D platformer. The concept and levels look like they're going to inject new creativity and life into the genre even more than the Ratchet & Clank remake and Yooka-Laylee. With how well these games are being received, I really hope we start seeing a lot more stuff like them in the coming years.
The Switch is going to have a slow start, but I can't help but be excited. Especially if they do what they need to and merge their console and handheld development into one system. Imagining a system with the combined library of the 3DS and Wii U is exciting to me.
But to keep it on topic, I do like that Nintendo seems to be going back to basics with their franchises recently. 3D Mario going back to the 64 formula and Zelda going back to the Zelda 1 formula were great ideas. I hope Nintendo uses this as a chance to do the same with other series like Paper Mario or Mario Party in the future.
A new Mario Party like the N64 games would be a dream come true for me. My friends and I always bust out 2 & 3 when there's four of us hanging out and they're still a great time to this day. Another Paper Mario like the first two would also be wonderful, but I really do need to give Color Splash a shot, as I've heard a lot of good things about it.
I've heard it's basically Sticker Star done right. I haven't tried it though.
Rumor is Nintendo made it before even hearing the reception to Sticker Star so I'm pretty sure the next game will be entirely different. I do hope they finally go back to basics. It's been a long time since TTYD and fans have been begging for another for years. Now with the Switch is their chance to really go all out.
Part of the reason that I didn't get a Wii-U during its time is because we didn't get a proper Zelda nor a proper Animal Crossing, nor a Mario platformer as I'd like from the franchise. And we're getting two out of three by the end of the year for the Switch, which is really enticing me to go for it.
Well, if you also don't have a system to play smaller games portable like the new Bomberman game, Sonic Mania, Yooka Laylee, Monster Boy, Puyo Puyo Tertris, or the Wonder Boy 3 remake, it's pretty good to have too.
Keeping on topic, Nintendo is the only reason Super Bomberman R is even getting made. Is anyone else hoping they would just buy these properties from Konami? It's not like they're going to do anything with them otherwise. Bomberman, Adventure Island, Star Soldier/Blazing Lazers, Bonk/Zonk, Shockman, Milon's Secret Castle/Adventure, Bloody Roar, Kororinpa, and Lost in Shadow, are all good franchises that don't deserve being smothered by Konami. I mean, it would even allow NDCube to do something other than Mario Party (they were actively involved in Super Bomberman R) since they are former Hudson Soft employees.
Heck, Nintendo specifically requesting Bomberman might open the door to being a Smash character one day.
PS: While we're at it, someone get Contra, Castlevania, Goemon, Gradius, Silent Hill, and everything else away from Konami.
The Wonder Boy: The Dragon's Trap remake (http://gonintendo.com/stories/274545-wonder-boy-the-dragon-s-trap-more-footage-swap-between-remake) is looking quite great. I really dig the artstyle.
WHAT! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCtbgfM3aag)
That's right, the Disney Afternoon collection is on the way! Six games including Duck Tales 1 and 2, Chip n' Dale 1 and 2, TaleSpin, and Darkwing Duck, with new modes.
So hyped! FINALLY. ;D
Neat. Mostly looking forward to replaying Darkwing Duck. Now to figure out if I'm gonna enjoy playing it on my PC or PS4
In even more news, Factor 5 is alive, and they have the rights to Turrican again. (http://gonintendo.com/stories/276107-factor-5-rises-from-the-ashes-reacquires-turrican-license-gives)
Great day for retro gamers!
I'm stoked for the Disney Afternoon set, except I don't have anything to play it with.
I do hope that they fix TaleSpin and make it, y'no, fun, though.
My Steam account is going to love this. Funny how here's no Nintendo release
They did skip Nintendo out for DuckTales Remastered, as well.
Which is disappointing, since these were all NES games originally, but what can you do.
Quote from: Avaitor on March 17, 2017, 06:43:11 PM
They did skip Nintendo out for DuckTales Remastered, as well.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51vYUo4fWIL._SX215_.jpg)
It was also the highest selling version.
So... :??:
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 17, 2017, 07:56:28 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on March 17, 2017, 06:43:11 PM
They did skip Nintendo out for DuckTales Remastered, as well.
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It was also the highest selling version.
So... :??:
:sweat:
I forgot about this one. My bad!
I still don't know why the Switch isn't getting the set, though.
What could possibly go wrong? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SCA3j59IrfQ)
Atari is making a new console. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5WNsmCpdhhY)
Nobody posted this? The SNES Classic has been announced (http://gonintendo.com/stories/283780-snes-classic-edition-officially-announced-releasing-september-29). It has a banging lineup of games.
Contra III: The Alien Wars
Donkey Kong Country
EarthBound
Final Fantasy III
F-ZERO
Kirby Super Star
Kirby's Dream Course
The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past
Mega Man X
Secret of Mana
Star Fox
Star Fox 2
Street Fighter II Turbo: Hyper Fighting
Super Castlevania IV
Super Ghouls 'n Ghosts
Super Mario Kart
Super Mario RPG: Legend of the Seven Stars
Super Mario World
Super Metroid
Super Punch-Out!!
Yoshi's Island
You didn't read that wrong: it includes the finished version of Star Fox 2 as well as finally releasing the SNES version of Yoshi's Island again.
Sure you could quibble about missing games (DKC2, ActRaiser, Finaly Fantasy II (IV), Illusion of Gaia, Legend of the Mystical Ninja, Chrono Trigger, Pilotwings, Terranigma, and Secret of Evermore) but the games here are all AAA games and if you've never played them, this is a stellar collection.
Unlike the NES Classic, I might actually go out of my way to get this. The SNES is the best system ever made, and is still excellent today.
Let's hope Nintendo doesn't have this sold out after two days and then stops manufacturing them. :sly: Wakka Wakka Wakka!
As a little salty as I am over DKC1 being included over 2, and the lack of Illusion of Gaia, Star Fox II more than makes up for it! I was going to buy the VC version of Contra III, but it looks I'll be saving my money for the SNES classic version instead.
Any chances we'll be seeing a N64 classic next year or later?
It's possible, but I would hope they could get a deal with Microsoft on that so we could get the Rare games. Without them, I think it would devalue the package a bit.
Personally, I would like to see a Game Boy one done first. Including GBC games, since there's no point separating them, you could have a lineup on par with the NES Classic easily.
Alleyway
Balloon Kid
Bionic Commando: Elite Forces
Castlevania II: Belmont's Revenge
Crystalis
Deja Vu I & II: The Casebooks of Ace Harding
Donkey Kong '94
Donkey Kong Land
Double Dragon
Final Fantasy Adventure
Kid Dracula
Kirby's Dream Land
Kirby's Dream Land II
Kirby Tilt 'n' Tumble
The Legend of Zelda: Link's Awakening DX
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages
The Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Seasons
Mega Man IV
Mega Man V
Metal Gear Solid: Ghost Babel
Mole Mania
Operation C
Pokemon Red
Pokemon Blue
Pokemon Pinball
Qix
R-Type DX
Shadowgate Classic
Super Mario Land
Super Mario Land 2: Six Golden Coins
Super Mario Land III: Wario Land
Super Mario Bros. Deluxe
Tetris
Wario Blast: Featuring Bomberman
Wario Land II
35 games, given a form factor like the GBA SP (with actual backlight this time), and that would easily be a day one buy.
They better make more than 10 of these things but I know they won't. NoA has been such a garbage fire when it comes to supply and demand for the past 3-4 years.
I've heard someone say before that Nintendo makes the hard things seem easy (such as making a game like Breath of the Wild as amazing and seamless as it is), and the easy things hard. So don't expect to find one of these.
And it's funny, unlike the NES, I actually have a Super Nintendo, but I want this way more than the NES Retro. Star Fox 2 makes up for anything missing IMO.
Yeah that's just it, Star Fox 2 is pretty much the only thing I care about here. I wouldn't mind Secret of Mana either (one of the few in this package I don't own a physical copy of), but most of what's there I can live without.
I'm just beyond the days of battling the elements outside of a store for two hours or refreshing Amazon feeds every few seconds. It shouldn't be that hard to get this stuff.
I won some auctions on eBay, and got the Anniversary Collections of Mega Man and Street Fighter for the X-Box. I've wanted both for a while, and decided to finally give them a go. I own Turbo on the SNES already, but I mainly got SF for 3rd Strike, since I really wanted to play it. And I decided to do Mega Man on the X-Box since I still think it's weird that the Gamecube version used the B button for jump.
Ahh sweet, I have Mega Man Anniversary Collection. I can play it on my 360 (I don't think you have one) Also the 2 arcade games you can unlock are fun, short co-op experiences. Outside of having 9 and 10, it's so much better than the Legacy Collections.
GameShark is coming back. (https://kotaku.com/switch-2-release-date-leak-ces-gameshark-ai-shark-1851159992)