Because we need this thread.
Discuss your favorite memories of the network.
I remember the days when something as graphics and bloody as The Powerpuff Girls was allowed to be watched by children...
Seriously, while I generally think people over react about this stuff, that show was definitely too much for kids. :P
I usually try to find an ad or something for us to look at again and discuss, but I'm feeling lazy.
http://www.youtube.com/user/90sCartoonNetwork
Tons of great stuff here. Someone try to find something to talk about.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8WPmNYDtU0
Had to bring this video back.
That video just made my evening, could of been more effective on Valentine's Day though. :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfvR4hl-Gzw
Solomon Grundy want pants too
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ac9ZxPHjBdU
In response to yours, SSJ Jake. Does anyone remember this Superfriends/PPG crossover skit?
You know what just got posted online?
All (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNpeyi0Xo9w&feature=sub) of (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJgGr7QhXv8&feature=sub) these (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1DBB-J-4peY&feature=sub) gems (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wf6tna9cS5Q&feature=sub). Word (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f59ySSxg4Qg&feature=mfu_in_order&list=UL).
I'd love for another block like this to see the light of day. Even if I was the only one who'd watch it.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0Wm-VaYxeA
Just watching this gets me nostalgic. I miss the original network to death.
I can understand why just about none of these cartoons air on there anymore, but I just miss the atmosphere of CN from back then. We may never get a channel like this again.
I like what EK's doing with his random bumps for conversation, so I'll try to do the same.
I know most of us were big Cartoon Network fans from back when, but what made the network worth watching so much? Was it the presentation, collection of shows, variety, or what? Did you prefer Nick or Disney to CN when you were younger? If so or not, why? And when do you think your favorite era of the network was?
Was it the presentation, collection of shows, variety
This
Lemme answer my own questions.
Yeah, I think what I listed and GSF seconded may be what I liked about the network so much. There was a wide range of shows on, from classic cartoons from each decade to original series that appealed to a wide range of audiences to various kinds of anime. I could turn CN on any time of the day, and usually found something worth watching, be it Huckleberry Hound, Bugs & Daffy, the Eds, Tenchi Muyo, or what have you. And the presentation more than complimented the selection of shows.
I definitely preferred Cartoon Network as a kid. Nick had a couple of shows I'd watch when I first turned to CN, but a lot of what I watched were either repeats of shows I've been watching for a while since then or other shows I'd only catch up on when I didn't feel like watching the same episode of The Flintstones or Jetsons again so soon. By the aughts, I ended up only regularly watching Invader Zim on Nick while I stuck to everything else on CN.
Disney just didn't matter to me by the time I got it. Completely different wave lengths there.
And my favorite era was the Powerhouse age, around 97-03, although I'd probably end at 02 for the "golden age". Good for the network since CN was cutting out the filler from the Hanna-Barbera library and focusing on the cream of the crop, making way for fresh new shows, building Toonami up into something really special, and integrating Warner into the network with it's merger with Turner. Although I wasn't huge on how the more popular CN's originals became, the more the classics were being edged out, their new shows were still innovative and entertaining enough for a while that I didn't mind that as much.
I'll never forgive the network for taking off Flintstones, Jetsons, and Looney Tunes though, and I still think that taking them off for Boomerang were some of the first signs of CN losing steam. But there's more to that than just losing a few key classics.
CN was definitely my favorite..well still my favorite pretty much by default. I liked a few of Nick's shows but they never came close to Cartoon Network. I almost never watched Disney. Either we almost never had it or when we did, I paid it no attention. I only got a little bit of Duck Tales, Tales Spin (WATCH THIS, EK!!), Darkwing Duck, Goof Troop and some of the movie spinoffs. Between the Cartoon Cartoons, the classics and the anime, CN was the clear best. Just thinking about it, it was impressive that CN ushered in a great new generation of cartoons. Even moreso, was the balance they kept.
Oh man, this one (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WPRhDeiJnas). Haven't seen it in ages.
Still a favorite.
So some guy on TZ posted a pretty dumb thread about ditching Adult Swim for a 90s CN block. That's not gonna happen but perhaps it could on Boomerang and perhaps it could even have silver age WB cartoons.
09:00 PM - Tiny Toon Adventures
09:30 PM - Animaniacs!
10:00 PM - Pinky and the Brain
10:30 PM - Freakazoid!
11:00 PM - Dexter's Laboratory
11:30 PM - The Powerpuff Girls
12:00 AM - The Real Adventures of Jonny Quest
12:30 AM - Batman: The Animated Series
01:00 AM - Superman: The Animated Series
01:30 AM - SWAT Kats
02:00 AM - 2 Stupid Dogs
02:30 AM - Taz-Mania!
03:00 AM - Cow and Chicken
03:30 AM - I Am Weasel
04:00 AM - Johnny Bravo
04:30 AM - The Moxy Show (anybody remember this one?)
05:00 AM - Space Ghost Coast to Coast
05:30 AM - Captain Planet
Or if silver age WB is out then maybe just this
12:00 AM - The Powerpuff Girls
12:30 AM - Dexter's Laboratory
01:00 AM - Johnny Bravo
01:30 AM - What A Cartoon Show
02:00 AM - Cow and Chicken
02:30 AM - I Am Weasel
03:00 AM - The Moxy Show
03:30 AM - Space Ghost Coast to Coast
04:00 AM - The Real Adventures of Jonny Quest
04:30 AM - SWAT Kats
05:00 AM - Pirates of Dark Water
05:30 AM - Captain Planet
Either one would basically require Turner to do SOMETHING with Boomerang so it's not going to happen but man, wouldn't it be something if they did something like that?
Old CN sure was fun.
The Silver Age stuff will never happen; none of it is a universal "brand" like Looney Tunes, and hell, it took CN long enough to even pay WB for the rights to that again anyway.
Everything else is fair game, though. It'd be a much more ideal use of Boomerang if they pulled off something like this; the channel is an old, dusty relic in its current state as it is. Time for a revamp, I'd say.
I think this would be a cool block, but I'd put it earlier. There's not as much of a market for the 90's HB shows as there are for 90's Nick or the Cartoon Cartoons, nor is Boom as easily accessible as TeenNick. I think putting a block like this up against The 90's Are All That would be a suicide trip, even if there is a big demand for it.
I think primetime would work for this block. Boom has no originals, so they don't have anything better to put in that time other than the billionth repeats of Flintstones and Scooby. I'd also like to see Disney try something like this again, like Vault Disney with DA stuff added in.
Took me no time, too. (http://skyfireaboveicebelow.tumblr.com/post/8832183042/neopuff-i-can-name-most-of-them-pfft-i-think)
Ah, that image is a thing of beauty. I still remember the big 10th anniversary celebration they did back in 2002. Lot of fun, back in those days.
The 20th anniversary is on the way next year... although I have my doubts with this skeleton crew that they'll acknowledge it. The general attitude in entertainment these days (when it comes to milestone anniversaries) is that the current viewing audience and key demographics of the network in question don't care how said network was 10/20/30 years ago... therefore, these things generally go unnoticed. Nickelodeon and MTV both celebrated 30th anniversaries fairly recently, and both came with little fanfare whatsoever. While CN does have a different corporate overlord in its corner (Turner/Time Warner, as opposed to Viacom), I doubt that fact will make little difference.
Oh well. Here's hoping I'm wrong.
Nick celebrated it's 30th? I don't remember seeing anything for it at all.
I think there's a possibility that CN might do something next year. There's a recent influx of 90's nostalgia, and the TeenNick block is proof that there's a big market for it. If Turner doesn't try to cash in on that soon, they might try to by that point if there still seems to be a lot of interest in bringing back nostalgia. And it's not like CN is completely blind to there being a demand for their older stuff. Hell, 2 Stupid Dogs has been airing on the channel for close to a month now.
Not sure what they'd do, though. If CN would air like a "best-of" package of all of their most popular and beloved series which they still own the rights to, make another bumper like they did for the 10th, or even less then that.
If I was in charge, I'd pull Robert Osbourne or even like Jerry Beck or someone over to host the channel for a day or two and kick off [as] for the night, or at least pre-empt the block by an hour or two. And I'd air a few episodes of some of their most beloved stuff, ideally the Looney Tunes Tom & Jerry, Tex Avery Show, Scooby-Doo, Flintstones, Dexter's Lab, PPG, Ed's, and maybe Ben 10 or something, with opening and closings getting into the history and merit of these cartoons and their impact on the network. Also add in The Iron Giant for good measure.
Quote from: Avaitor on August 12, 2011, 07:08:28 PM
Nick celebrated it's 30th? I don't remember seeing anything for it at all.
I probably should have worded that better. What I meant was, Nick turned 30 years old fairly recently (in 2009), yet didn't celebrate the occasion at all. Same goes for MTV, which turned 30 mere days ago... and on the day of, ran a Jersey Shore marathon. :whuh:
I suppose there's a better chance CN will do something, but I'll believe it when I see it. For obvious reasons, I don't trust Snyder/Sorcher with this kind of project.
For some reason, VH1 Classic celebrates MTV's anniversaries better than MTV itself does. Like during their 25th anniversary in 2006, they reaired the first 24 hours of the channel, and this year, they did a weekend full of classic MTV shows, videos, and interstals. I caught a little of that this year, and saw VH1C air some of the original Real World. Didn't stick around for much more, though.
But yeah, MTV really should have done that, and Nick did absolutely nothing for it's 30th. And who knows what CN's going to do.
Quote from: Avaitor on August 12, 2011, 08:24:35 PM
For some reason, VH1 Classic celebrates MTV's anniversaries better than MTV itself does. Like during their 25th anniversary in 2006, they reaired the first 24 hours of the channel, and this year, they did a weekend full of classic MTV shows, videos, and interstals. I caught a little of that this year, and saw VH1C air some of the original Real World. Didn't stick around for much more, though.
But yeah, MTV really should have done that, and Nick did absolutely nothing for it's 30th. And who knows what CN's going to do.
That is so sad. Why do all Nostalgia threads turn into Depressionthreads?
Remembering the past reminds us of how old we are? I dunno.
Probably that "things aren't as good as they used to be", I'd assume.
In some cases it's true, in some it's not.
Eh, I've grown sick of nostalgia. I'm more into progression than stagnancy nowadays. Sure, the shows I grew up with in the 90s are awesome, but I also find myself enjoying and anticipating many of the series we have here in the 10s.
I think it's important to maintain a balance between the past and the present while moving forward. It's the best way to get the most out of everything, I feel.
I kind of swing both ways, maybe a little more on the nostalgic side. While I still find plenty of cool new shows to watch, I still feel the need to pull out one of my favorite DVDs and watch The 90's Are All That every night.
I do agree with Desen, myself.
I don't really understand the thought that channels should do all out celebrations for their anniversaries personally. I mean, for all the channels there are, how many of them regularly do that? How long has CBS and NBC been around, and aside from mentioning the anniversaries in ads and maybe in the on-screen bug, there's really nothing else done; they certainly don't play old shows like I Love Lucy or something for the occasion.
Granted, cable is full of channels that are more cultish than the big broadcasts(CN, Nick, MTV, Comedy Central, SyFy...), but I still don't understand the notion that these channels are somehow obligated to rerun their old shows for the occasion. Little mentions of the occasion would be nice, but really that block on Teen Nick is a lot more than I feel they had to do.
Quote from: Desensitized on August 13, 2011, 09:42:20 PM
Probably that "things aren't as good as they used to be", I'd assume.
In some cases it's true, in some it's not.
for me, pretty much everything was better. Not just nostalgia speaking, I have the same basic taste as I did as a kid.
I'm a huge nostalgia buff; I'll freely admit that. I have an expansive DVD and video game collection (among other childhood items, too many of which to list here), consisting of many of my favorites from "the good ol' days" that I cannot and/or simply refuse to part with.
That said, don't take that as me being a, ahem, "nostalgiafag" (I absolutely hate that term, but it does appropriately apply to a certain crowd). Although I'm not really a "fan" of present-day Cartoon Network (they do a lot of stupid things wrong that they never did 10-years ago) there is still plenty on the channel that I enjoy today. Regular Show has already become one of my all-time CN favorites, and I'm also starting to warm up to Gumball as well... although not completely sold on it, I'm getting there. On the action end, Young Justice and Batman: Brave and the Bold are both fantastic shows, and fit perfectly within that group of new/modern-day favorites.
Although I love the 90's, and cherish so much of what that decade has to offer, I'm not against new things; not at all. One's individual taste changes all the time, and there is, unfortunately, plenty of stuff I grew up with that doesn't do it for me at all nowadays, aside from the nostalgia factor. As I watch new stuff on TV, though, I discover new favorites all the time. I love nostalgia, and relishing in the past is always fun trip down memory lane, but I'm always open to new things. It's good to have a balance between the old and the new, and it'd be nice if everyone lived by this philosophy (as opposed to the hardline, one way or another stance of hating all things old, or all things new that so many people live by).
I don't think anyone would argue with the 90s being a great decade. It's probably one of the best in modern media because of the wonderful balance it had in everything going on, movies, animation, music, video games, and TV shows were all hitting their own types of peaks here all around the same time. Collectively, it's a great decade.
But I think the 70s were better for movies, the 60s for music, and the 80s for... lol, I can't even finish that one, the 80s blew. It had great arcade games and music, but nothing it really excelled at.
The 00s was a solid decade with a lot of great stuff, but it wasn't really overwhelmingly superior in anything from any decade previously. Where it wins, in my mind, is for specific examples separate from the whole. Sitcoms were getting stale, cop shows were losing the sense of fun, mainstream music was bought by the record companies, animation was becoming committee driven, action movies were getting their balls cut off, dramas were beginning to go up their own ass, and video games were getting streamlined. But there were still examples of material that hangs with the best of the best in all categories.
And that's my take on frivolous crap no one cares about!
I'd argue that the 00s was when sitcoms were becoming more inventive and getting out of the standard multi-camera status quo with Scrubs and It's Always Sunny in Philadelphia, cop shows were gaining some true grit with The Shield and The Wire, indie music and animation were finding more ways to be seen by the general public via YouTube, Newgrounds, etc., and dramas were becoming more serialized and layered like Mad Men or Breaking Bad.
But yeah, action movies and video games haven't really hit a major upswing as far as last decade was concerned. Unless you count the rise of PC gaming.
Well, it mostly comes down to taste as I've mostly grown tired of the multi-camera sitcom and I find most gritty cop shows overly boring, but that's just me. I'd much rather watch something like Titus or Monk which were shows in the decade that still used the older formats exceedingly well.
Either way, I do think that even though it was a crazy decade for entertainment, there's still a lot of excellent stuff in it.
As an aside, I fucking hate Scrubs. :unimpressed:
Quote from: Desensitized on August 15, 2011, 05:17:57 PM
As an aside, I fucking hate Scrubs. :unimpressed:
This.
Whenever one of my friends tries to "sell me" on Scrubs, I often think to myself "wow;
these are the people I hang out with?" God damn, I hate that show.
I'm sure if I tried to sell them on MLP, they'd say the same about me... but for my sake, I don't even bother. :awesome:
I used to love the shit out of Scrubs. I haven't watched it in forever though...
Scrubs has got to be the most hit-or-miss show ever made. Even Evangelion doesn't have such a topsy-turvy relationship with people across the board.
It's also easily the most influential comedy in the past decade, which I guess shows what you think of today's sitcoms depending on if you like it or not.
I like plenty of today's sitcoms; The Office, How I Met Your Mother, Parks and Recreation, Curb Your Enthusiasm, etc. I know a lot of those are similar in style, but I dunno; I don't really see a correlation between liking Scrubs and liking other newer sitcoms.
The problem with Scrubs, for me, is that it just isn't funny. When I watch it, nothing clicks at all. The writing sucks, the characters, for the most part, also suck (sans Dr. Cox, who I thought was OK when I seen it last) suck, and I find the over-emphasis on relationships very grating (I know a lot of sitcoms always do this, but I never cared for the way they handled it). It just doesn't work for me.
I could give it another chance... hell, it's been quite a while since I've seen it last. I really don't want to, though.
Huh? Scrubs was absolutely hilarious. I wish it was MORE influential, because then we'd have less flaming shitturds like 2 Broke Girls and Last Man Standing and more actually well-written, witty shows. Dr. Cox and Dr. Kelso are two of the most unique, awesome characters on TV in recent memory.
That being said, the med-school intern season was horrendous and should be wiped off the face of the Earth immediately, and deleted from the memories of anyone who watched so much as one frame of it.
I honestly stopped watching after the first ABC season. That was intended to be JD's last season, and as far as I was concerned, that was the last.
Quote from: Avaitor on August 26, 2011, 12:27:15 AM
I honestly stopped watching after the first ABC season. That was intended to be JD's last season, and as far as I was concerned, that was the last.
Yeah, pretty much.
I swear every time I get on YouTube I end up looking at old Cartoon Network promos and packing. Why just today I stumbled upon a Static Shock Miguzi promo in the related videos bar and ended up watching quite a few Miguzi promos. That and I can't tell you how many times lately I've rewatched Toonami videos on YouTube. The old Cartoon Network sure knew how to promote their shows. Not that they're bad at promoting shows now but they were much better and more creative about it "back in the day".
A lot of marketting was just way better in the past. Companies were more about being edgy or tongue in cheek about their products from the 90's and even a little into the 00s. Nowadays, the clever campaigns come by less frequently (and when they do, they wear out their welcome so fast ie Old Spice) or they're reserved for a 1 time only Superbowl slot.
As an aside, I love how Saban Brands is promoting Power Rangers everywhere, but I hate Nickelodeon's own branch handling the previews and commercials for it. Most of them feel incredibly generic and could probably be swapped around with any other show they air. That's how awful they are.
Hey you remember that one campaign CN ran when they first began to air Pokemon and Yugioh on the channel? I knew they were reruns, but they certainly knew how to promote the hell out of reruns.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8GOg3kLNjTs&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i-HrXL2yOYY&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lr_oYqrYwG8&feature=related
How many of these do you remember? Some of them surprised me, like the Summer Fridays one, I forgot all about that one, yet I remembered it so vividly. I love the one at the beginning of the third video too, where they are flying through the CN office building, but I'm kind of curious, when did they use that one? I remember seeing it when it originally aired, but it had to have been in 2004 or later(long after I stopped watching the channel regularly; also around the time that most of the HB characters featured in the video disappeared from the channel[when was the last time you saw fucking Squiddly Diddly on CN?]), as I noticed things like the new CN logo, as well as characters like Puffy AmiYumi, Teen Titans, and the Megas XLR guy making appearances. I just find that strange, as I thought that intro was a little older than that.
Yeah, I remember those. I often cite that last one (among other things) as proof that CN wasn't totally dead after the infamous "revamp" of 2004. It was definitely on the downswing, yes, but at that point, they still knew how to advertise.
That's one of many things I've always hated about the Snyder era; these guys don't know how to advertise for shit. CN's ad campaigns now are as boring and uncharismatic as it gets. I don't know why people loved the "nood" era so much; I thought that was one of their worst efforts yet. Guess it comes down to personal flavor, but I haven't been impressed with any of CN's advertising in years.
So i found out that CN's airing The Flintstones now, before Looney Tunes and Tom & Jerry.
That's pretty fucking awesome.
I've been meaning to catch up on The Flintstones on Boomerang.
I thought I heard something about The Jetsons being in the mix as well, but I have yet to see it.
Either way though, that's still pretty cool.
Well they did show The Jetsons Christmas Carol episode along with the Flintstones Christmas episode and Christmas Carol movie, so I can see it happen. They also showed the Ed, Edd, n' Eddy Christmas special also aired this year, and EEnE came back this week too.
They also showed the PPG and JB Christmas specials, so those might come back too. Who knows?
Isn't there a new Johnny Bravo movie that's supposed to air sometime this year? I could be wrong, but I thought I saw that somewhere.
Yeah, Johnny Bravo Does Bollywood I believe. I think only India and Australia are getting it for now though, but if Australia's getting it, we should too eventually.
Cool! Hey, if the PPG could get a 10 year anniversary special despite not airing on CN proper for many years, I can't see why they wouldn't air a Johnny Bravo special. Bollywood and Johnny Bravo alone have me sold on this special.
Oh shit, when did this happen?
JB's kinda hit or miss for me, but I would love to see that Bollywood movie when it airs. You just don't see that kind of hilarious misogyny in kids shows anymore.
Apparently they made a short with the same plot for CN India a couple of years ago, and it was so well-received that CN decided to make a full movie based off of the idea.
Or something to that effect. I forget the story.
I thought this was somewhat common knowledge honestly. I could have sworn there's been at least one topic about it on TZ, but to hell with me actually looking for it.
HOW DID I NOT KNOW THIS?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I DON'T KNOW!!!!!!!!!
So CN's online store has some shirts up for their older shirts, a lot of which I haven't seen at Hot Topic or anywhere.
These are (http://www.cartoonnetworkshop.com/cat/I-Am-Weasel/Shirts/I-Am-Weasel-IR-Adult-T-Shirt.html) some of (http://www.cartoonnetworkshop.com/cat/Ed-Edd-n-Eddy/Shirts/Ed-Edd-n-Eddy-Its-an-Ed-Thing-Adult-T-Shirt.html) my favorites.
Here's a rather unexpected surprise (and delightful treat): starting March 30th, CN is apparently bringing back Cartoon Cartoon Friday's as a nostalgia block, ala 90's Are All That (http://www.toonzone.net/forums/showthread.php?292983-quot-Best-of-CN-quot-A-new-block-premiering-Friday-March-30th-at-8-00pm).
Nothing sounds official yet, but everybody seems pretty confident that this WILL actually happen (they're expected to announce it at the Upfronts). Apparently, people are also saying in another thread that the block will also be hosted by Brak and Zorak (!!), though again, nothing is official as of right now.
I gotta say, if this really is true, this is just plain awesome in so many ways. I think I can speak for all of us when I say I've been waiting years for a CN nostalgia block, and it looks like they're finally ready to deliver. Hopefully this means they'll throw in a montage or two of the old ads from yesteryear on top of that; CN's advertising back then was top notch, and I'd love to see some of these old commercials again.
So yeah, sounds like CN really does plan on doing something special for their 20th anniversary after all. Given the current regime, I really wasn't expecting much (if anything at all), but this quite a nice surprise, I must say.
I wonder if this what Steve Blum meant by wanting people to tune into CN on March 30th? He made a post about that on Twitter, but I think he might have deleted that.
EDIT: Turns out it was a retweet from Andy Merrill. https://twitter.com/#!/amerrill2/status/178204946414567426
:happytime:
Hmm, looks like they're bringing back the Cartoon Cartoon/Top 5 shows they had a few years back.
Very nice, and perfect timing, too.
Some notes I have
-I wouldn't be surprised if EEnE, Courage and KND get a pass from airing on here since they still air regularly on the network. They could still air on here anyway, but I wouldn't count that possibility out.
-I really hope that later shows like Camp Lazlo or Gym Partner air on here. Foster's isn't too bad a choice, since even though it isn't that nostalgic, a fair amount of people who grew up watching the Cartoon Cartoons watched it anyway, but shows like these don't really belong on here.
-Speaking of Foster's, if they're going to stick to just 7-11 minute segments, I hope that it isn't a regularly occurring show. With only 6 shorts, it's presence will get old FAST.
-I hope this does well enough to land into two or more hours, so we can get full half hours of these shows, and maybe some HB/Warner/MGM as well.
Andy Merill referred to this block as the return of Cartoon Planet, with Brak and Zorak showing cartoons.
<3
Edit: It's funny, though. For the longest time, I've wanted a revival of JBVO to happen on CN, maybe with a more contemporary host like Mordecai and Rigby, but definitely extended to an hour and to be able to accept requests from people of all ages, for older and newer shows. This might be a starting point for that.
JBVO was a fantastic concept, and from what I remember about it, was executed quite well (sure Johnny was nuts, but I still liked him as a host). It's a shame that it didn't last; I'm assuming the cost of keeping a project like that going wasn't worth the offset of its somewhat tepid ratings.
I'd be really surprised if they ever went that route again, but I guess you never know. I'd be in favor of it, definitely.
Maybe if the ratings are strong enough, they'll go through with something like that. Who knows?
Oh, and the following week, they're going to show episodes of EEnE, Camp Lazlo, Chowder, and Billy & Mandy. So it looks like everything is fair game.
Check this out. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-HlehJ4DNM&feature=player_embedded)
I hate most of those cartoons.
Out of curiosity, of all the shows mentioned so far, which do you not hate?
Quote from: Avaitor on March 27, 2012, 10:25:03 PM
Check this out. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-HlehJ4DNM&feature=player_embedded)
:happytime:
Only thing that disappoints me here is Chowder. I can live with Flapjack and Foster's (even though they don't fit within the theme at all) because I like those shows, but man... Chowder? Gross.
Well Camp Lazlo's airing too. I'd take season 1/early season 2 of Chowder over Lazlo any day.
Quote from: Avaitor on March 27, 2012, 11:46:02 PM
Out of curiosity, of all the shows mentioned so far, which do you not hate?
Chowder, Flapjack, Foster.
Quote from: gunswordfist on March 28, 2012, 12:55:43 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on March 27, 2012, 11:46:02 PM
Out of curiosity, of all the shows mentioned so far, which do you not hate?
Chowder, Flapjack, Foster.
Those are what I was figuring, haha.
The uploader has not made this video available in your country.
For the life of me, I have no idea what the point is in doing this.
Quote from: Avaitor on March 28, 2012, 01:24:02 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on March 28, 2012, 12:55:43 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on March 27, 2012, 11:46:02 PM
Out of curiosity, of all the shows mentioned so far, which do you not hate?
Chowder, Flapjack, Foster.
Those are what I was figuring, haha.
Well besides Dexter, wasn't the other one Powerpuff Girls? Besides me obviously not hating any cartoon from that era (except Cow & Chicken, you can go to hell) you've already seen me rip the others.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 28, 2012, 02:09:33 PM
The uploader has not made this video available in your country.
For the life of me, I have no idea what the point is in doing this.
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Floge19.files.wordpress.com%2F2009%2F03%2Fcanadasucks.png&hash=a3da19f7a1d71e1d0970dfbb9acb4fcbd573aa62)
So far, these are the shows mentioned or planned to air on this block:
Dexter's Lab
Cow & Chicken
Johnny Bravo
The Powerpuff Girls
Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
Billy & Mandy
Foster's
Camp Lazlo
Chowder
Flapjack
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 28, 2012, 02:09:33 PM
The uploader has not made this video available in your country.
For the life of me, I have no idea what the point is in doing this.
Silly Canadians, you're not supposed to be watching our Cartoon Network.
How do you get the American cable networks anyway? Do you live that close to the US border? Always been kinda curious about this.
This is a good time to mention that Ihate Billy & Mandy.
Our local cable provider (which is on a native reserve) has deals with a lot of American providers. It's really weird. But I don't get everything, like I don't get Disney XD or the Hub. I get a lot of dumb stuff, though.
I like that line up.
Do you get TCM over there?
Quote from: gunswordfist on March 28, 2012, 06:54:34 PM
This is a good time to mention that Ihate Billy & Mandy.
You hate everything, perhaps this block isn't for you.
...even though I don't much care for Billy and Mandy myself.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on March 28, 2012, 06:55:46 PM
Our local cable provider (which is on a native reserve) has deals with a lot of American providers. It's really weird. But I don't get everything, like I don't get Disney XD or the Hub. I get a lot of dumb stuff, though.
I don't get Disney XD or The Hub. And I too get a lot of dumb stuff(The amount of channels I actually watch is less than half of what we get). But hey, I don't pay for it, cable and Internet are free in the barracks, so I can't complain too much.
The big problem is that the channels constantly get juggled around, so keeping track of what's on where and when is difficult.
Quote from: Avaitor on March 28, 2012, 06:58:40 PM
Do you get TCM over there?
I do.
You know, I don't believe I get TCM. I think the only one I get is AMC, and let's face it, that channel ain't what it used to be.
Yeah, AMC kind of went to shit around the time TCM came out. Their shows are good, but the odd Godfather marathons aside, there isn't much use for Movie part of American Movie Channel.
The only thing I watch on AMC is the occasional airing of Terminator 2.
Oh yeah, they do air the first 2 Terminators, Enter the Dragon, and the Mad Max movies. They do get bonus points for that, even though you can catch them on other channels.
Quote from: Comeau on March 28, 2012, 06:59:27 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on March 28, 2012, 06:54:34 PM
This is a good time to mention that Ihate Billy & Mandy.
You hate everything, perhaps this block isn't for you.
...even though I don't much care for Billy and Mandy myself.
That show only has two good episodes.
Quote from: Comeau on March 28, 2012, 07:19:15 PM
You know, I don't believe I get TCM. I think the only one I get is AMC, and let's face it, that channel ain't what it used to be.
Yeah, it's better. [/Breaking Bad & Mad Men]
I still wish we could have gotten that spin-off.
Breaking Bad and Mad Men are on my to-watch list. Maybe season 2 of Walking Dead as well if the pacing has changed since the first.
I haven't seen either show as well.
I've been meaning to watch Mad Men in particular for ages, especially since it's such an award show darling (it hauls in about 3-4 Emmys in any given year, on top of every other cable award it's got to its name), so I'm curious. And yet here I am, and I still haven't gotten around to it yet. :P
I just wanna watch it 'cause of Alison Brie. Her boobs call to me.
This trend on CN where they cut up the intros really bugs me. They just started Dexter's Lab, but the intro was cut to just Dee Dee plugging the sign in and Dexter being stunned by it. Why do they do this?
For advertising space apparently. Pretty stupid reason if you ask me.
CN is airing Toonami right now. Well, I guess it's more of an Adult Swim thing, but whatever. The opening credits to The Room were just coming on, then it shifted to TOM sitting in his chair. All they are playing is Bleach though...
They're apparently airing DBZ and Gundam Wing later.
And DBZ just started up, and TOM even mentioned Toonami being on again next Saturday at 12AM(although I'm pretty sure that's not for real, it was probably just for aesthetics). Somewhere in Portsmouth Jeff Harris just unloaded himself in his pants.
I'm freaking out.
An episode preview for Bleach and a new game review too (Mass Effect 3). They're going all out for this. I'm suprised quite frankly.
I am speechless.
Simply speechless.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jc9A5UeW1mg
The intro, for those who missed it. It still surprises me to see TOM interrupt The Room, I did not see it coming.
Yeah.
I'm hoping that Tenchi and Outlaw Star do air tonight too, and it just goes on all night. I'm loving this so much.
New episode of Tenchi on right now. This NEVER aired on Toonami.
Now they're doing premiers. I swear, this just keeps getting better and better.
I'm pretty sure this is from the third Ryo-Ohki OVA, which indeed never aired on Toonami.
In case you don't know, the first two Ryo-Ohki OVAs were the original episodes of the show, and were packaged together as the first series on Toonami.
TOM SAID BITCH!!!!!
Also, I'm pretty sure they'll just air a season 2 episode of Big O, even though it only aired on [as]. Since they still own the rights to it, as opposed to season 1.
Yeah, the content in the breaks so far has been noticeably more adult.
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I hope some YT's that. I need this moment to be engraved on the internet forever.
It reminds me of when Face told Stick Stickley to "nut up" during the 90's Are All That New Years thing, except decidedly more awesome.
Haha, really? The Nick Jr. Face? How does he go from "Hi there, Face here, you're watching Blues Clues on Nick Jr! 'Goofy horn noise'." to "Nut up, Stick Stickly!"?
Quote from: Avaitor on April 01, 2012, 01:05:46 AM
It reminds me of when Face told Stick Stickley to "nut up" during the 90's Are All That New Years thing, except decidedly more awesome.
I NEED A VIDEO OF THIS
RIGHT. NOW.
Quote from: Kiddington on April 01, 2012, 01:20:57 AM
Quote from: Avaitor on April 01, 2012, 01:05:46 AM
It reminds me of when Face told Stick Stickley to "nut up" during the 90's Are All That New Years thing, except decidedly more awesome.
I NEED A VIDEO OF THIS
RIGHT. NOW.
He said "grow a pair". (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPZT4YjJdQg)
Oh yeah, that's right.
Pretty much the same thing though, haha
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 01, 2012, 01:25:24 AM
Quote from: Kiddington on April 01, 2012, 01:20:57 AM
Quote from: Avaitor on April 01, 2012, 01:05:46 AM
It reminds me of when Face told Stick Stickley to "nut up" during the 90's Are All That New Years thing, except decidedly more awesome.
I NEED A VIDEO OF THIS
RIGHT. NOW.
He said "grow a pair". (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GPZT4YjJdQg)
Haha, wow. That is awesome.
They even got the same VA. Well how about that.
The best part of that is he did the "brr-brr-brr!" laugh after saying it.
The anticipation for the final show is killing me.
I know it doesn't have a snowball chance in hell of happening, but I want to see Sailor Moon or Hamtaro book end the block.
Considering how far behind we're getting since the Tenchi ep was so long, it might end with a classic Space Ghost cartoon or something. Which I think would be fitting, since the very earliest stages of Toonami were dedicated to showing old action HB cartoons like that.
Blue Submarine No. 6 confirmed after Yu Yu Hakusho.
Hmm... not what I was hoping for...
I was hoping for something like G Gundam personally.
I never actually watched that, so I might as well take my chance now.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe that this is a season 1 episode of Big O. They really pulled out all the stops tonight.
Quote from: Avaitor on April 01, 2012, 01:58:03 AM
I never actually watched that, so I might as well take my chance now.
And correct me if I'm wrong, but I do believe that this is a season 1 episode of Big O. They really pulled out all the stops tonight.
Indeed it is.
This whole night was absolutely fantastic. Way to go, CN (and AS). Now make this a weekly event, and we'll be bros again.
You know what would make for another awesome AFD prank from [as]?
If they got Bandai and Sunrise to make new Big O footage or a one-off ep and say that it's the premiere of the long-awaited season 3. Air it once and never show it or acknowledge its existence again.
That would be cruel, but sweet.
Yu Yu Yakusho is in HD.
:happytime:
Quote from: Avaitor on April 01, 2012, 02:13:41 AM
You know what would make for another awesome AFD prank from [as]?
If they got Bandai and Sunrise to make new Big O footage or a one-off ep and say that it's the premiere of the long-awaited season 3. Air it once and never show it or acknowledge its existence again.
That would be cruel, but sweet.
That would be cruel.
Maybe
too cruel.
Trigun confirmed after Blue Sub.
Hmm... so it looks like it'll actually be lasting longer than people thought. Here's hoping on the off chance that Sailor Moon makes a comeback.
That caught me by surprise. Trigun wasn't even on Toonami!
Tell me about it.
This... this is just too awesome for words. I mean, man, they are really going all-out tonight. So great, and yet so cruel at the same time. WHY MUST IT BE THIS WAY?
Yeah, I don't think I'm going to sleep tonight.
Next up is Astro Boy.
Well.
Mike Lazzo is laughing at us.
This has been a fantastic night. I told a bunch of people through Facebook that this was going on, so I've been chatting with them about it over there while spamming TZ at the same time.
Best April Fool's ever.
Trigun on Toonami.
This is oddly surreal.
IIRC, Trigun was actually supposed to air on Toonami at one point.
And Gigantor airs after Astro Boy.
GIGANTOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR
Quote from: Comeau on March 31, 2012, 11:07:00 PM
CN is airing Toonami right now. Well, I guess it's more of an Adult Swim thing, but whatever. The opening credits to The Room were just coming on, then it shifted to TOM sitting in his chair. All they are playing is Bleach though...
WHAT?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Not sure if this has the entire night, this should have you covered for most of it. (http://www.justin.tv/backuptoons/b/313533622)
Later...
Quote from: Comeau on April 01, 2012, 12:09:09 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=jc9A5UeW1mg
The intro, for those who missed it. It still surprises me to see TOM interrupt The Room, I did not see it coming.
:cry: :drool:
Quote from: Kiddington on April 01, 2012, 12:53:38 AM
Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
I hope some YT's that. I need this moment to be engraved on the internet forever.
Don't know if anyone posted this yet but: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVBp-_HCMbQ (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVBp-_HCMbQ)
Quote from: Kiddington on April 01, 2012, 01:56:03 AM
Blue Submarine No. 6 confirmed after Yu Yu Hakusho.
Hmm... not what I was hoping for...
After YYH?! Dammit, why'd all this happen after I lost the channel. :burn:
EDIT: GAH! YYH in HD?! Trigun on Toonami?! I can't believe I missed that piece of history.
Yeah last night may end up being the cruelest April Fools Day joke they ever done, depending on how next week goes.... or doesn't go at all.
Funny if they do a traditional terrible not-funny-at-all Adult Swim April Fool's Day joke next week. :D
I fell asleep during Blue Submarine No. 6, so I missed the rest of the night. But boy was that fun.
The one year Adult Swim has a great April Fool's Day Prank and I miss it.
This sounds like the best line up on Cartoon Network since AS's early days.
Wait, there's more! What if I told you that "Screwball Squirrel" aired today on CN?
Cause it did.
It's aired twice so far, once at 6AM, and once at about 11:45.
It'd be even better if it was "Happy-Go-Nutty", to remain consistent. But still awesome.
Oh, and since I finally got to watch the full hour of Cartoon Planet on my DVR, what would you say your favorite episode from that set was?
While it's not my favorite of the shows here, I really got a laugh out of the Cow & Chicken one myself. I mean, the Dexter, Johnny and PPG ones were still great too, but I feel like I've seen them enough times recently in comparison (especially JB, since I have that ep on DVD), but since I've seen C&C considerably less in recent times than the other three, it felt fresher and more welcome to me. And it was pretty funny to boot. Although if "Meet the Beat-Alls" did air as it was originally scheduled to, that would easily have been my favorite. That ep just never gets old.
If you wanted me to rank what we got, it'd look like this
1- Cow & Chicken
2- Johnny Bravo
3- Powerpuff Girls
4- Dexter's Lab
5- Foster's
I didn't really like the Foster's ep. I love Kevin McDonald and all, but there's only so much of his screeching that I can tolerate in an 11 minute span, and his running around yelling "STEVIE" throughout the whole episode nearly made me deaf. And the rest of the characters were overly obnoxious here as well, aside from maybe Mac.
That was a hell of a surprise, I'll give them that.
But Toonami isn't coming back. And if it did, it would simply shrivel up and die just like it did before. Unless CN has an about-face and decides to give it the 5-7pm slot again, which is so unlikely as to be laughable.
If ASA wants to try and improve, bring back some weeknight programming and make better bumpers like you used to from 04-06. That would be a far more worthwhile endeavor.
I'm just going to restate what I've already said. Williams Street should just rename ASA Toonami and change the bumps. They don't need to do anything with the schedule at the moment, just make new bumps. Everything else will eventually fall into place.
Just basically turn Adult Swim into Toonami but with the exact same shows it already has?
That's a pretty good marketing move, but it wouldn't convince me to keep watching since the terrible shows are the reason I don't watch it anymore.
Well there's really nothing that can be done about that now can there? Lets face it a lot of shows ASA airs are about as terrible as what Toonami used to air in its heyday.
Really, Bleach is the only horrible show they're airing. Everything else has just been repeated to death. If they want to make ASA into Toonami, they have to pull in some effort and get some new shows. Otherwise, like Gary said.
Well, the text on black is beyond tired now, so I wouldn't be resistant to changing it... Because AS really needs changing.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 02, 2012, 01:56:28 PM
Well, the text on black is beyond tired now, so I wouldn't be resistant to changing it... Because AS really needs changing.
Yeah, the whole dadaist schtick has become more boring than weird now.
I don't know if I'd consider anything on ASA's current lineup as "terrible" (Other than Bleach), but I agree that you can only survive on new packaging for so long. Hopefully Saturday night did well enough to convince AS to pick up more anime, or at least make more action-oriented original programming, or better yet,
both.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 02, 2012, 01:58:09 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 02, 2012, 01:56:28 PM
Well, the text on black is beyond tired now, so I wouldn't be resistant to changing it... Because AS really needs changing.
Yeah, the whole dadaist schtick has become more boring than weird now.
God knows Toonami bumpers would be much more appreciated than...whatever the hell the bumpers they use now are. :whuh:
Quote from: Rynnec on April 02, 2012, 02:00:22 PM
God knows Toonami bumpers would be much more appreciated than...whatever the hell the bumpers they use now are. :whuh:
You mean those bumpers with the kids wearing clown make-up and laughing at each other? Yeah, whoever thought up of that needs to get fired. Like, now.
Steve Blum in any form >>>> all AS bumpers.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 02, 2012, 02:02:45 PM
Quote from: Rynnec on April 02, 2012, 02:00:22 PM
God knows Toonami bumpers would be much more appreciated than...whatever the hell the bumpers they use now are. :whuh:
You mean those bumpers with the kids wearing clown make-up and laughing at each other? Yeah, whoever thought up of that needs to get fired. Like, now.
Probably the same people who decided that Tim & Eric deserve careers.
The whole block just needs a major revamp, and if turning it into Toonami will do that, then at least it's a step towards
anything. A relaunch with brand new shows and acquisitions would be key, too.
This is really more of me wanting a good block than wanting AS to die/Toonami to return. CN hasn't really had an outright great block in such a long time and the AFD line up proves exactly that (other than Bleach), so I would welcome anything that would move it away from where it currently is.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 02, 2012, 02:02:45 PM
Quote from: Rynnec on April 02, 2012, 02:00:22 PM
God knows Toonami bumpers would be much more appreciated than...whatever the hell the bumpers they use now are. :whuh:
You mean those bumpers with the kids wearing clown make-up and laughing at each other? Yeah, whoever thought up of that needs to get fired. Like, now.
Those, as well as the ones ones like the old lady and the BSOD'd computer, and the "Don't stand on the boat one".
The previous bumpers with a random photograph weren't anything special, but at least they didn't endanger my intelligence.
Quote from: Foggle on April 02, 2012, 02:07:01 PM
Steve Blum in any form >>>> all AS bumpers.
I'd also settle for Moltar returning.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 02, 2012, 02:07:31 PM
Probably the same people who decided that Tim & Eric deserve careers.
I still can't get why it's supposed to be funny, and this is coming from someone who had to watch awkward Public Access TV back in high school. Is it supposed to be funny because of it's unfunniness?
AS should bring back Toonami and put shows like Baccano, Full Metal Panic, Monster, Fate/Zero, and Black Lagoon on it. That'd be a step in the right direction, at least.
AND THEY NEED TO HURRY UP WITH THE BLACK DYNAMITE CARTOON ALREADY
Quote from: Foggle on April 02, 2012, 02:12:59 PM
AS should bring back Toonami and put shows like Baccano, Full Metal Panic, Monster, Fate/Zero, and Black Lagoon on it. That'd be a step in the right direction, at least.
Except Monster did awful when it was on Syfy, and they'd have to censor the shit out of Black Lagoon.
Unfortunately, Monster just won't fly here. Though putting it in the midnight slot during the week probably wouldn't hurt.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 02, 2012, 02:12:48 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 02, 2012, 02:07:31 PM
Probably the same people who decided that Tim & Eric deserve careers.
I still can't get why it's supposed to be funny, and this is coming from someone who had to watch awkward Public Access TV back in high school. Is it supposed to be funny because of it's unfunniness?
Have you ever seen SCTV? Tim & Eric is actually a very unfunny and extremely poor rip off of SCTV.
But yeah, it also follows that painfully annoying Adult Swim rule of weird = funny because.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 02, 2012, 02:15:39 PM
Syfy
There's your problem.
And yeah, I kinda' forgot that the English dub of Black Lagoon is about as vulgar as a Scorsese film.
Cartoon Network has also adopted AS's "weird shit is funny" philosophy. Do kids really find shit like that funny?
Quote from: Rynnec on April 02, 2012, 02:19:27 PM
Cartoon Network has also adopted AS's "weird shit is funny" philosophy. Do kids really find shit like that funny?
Judging from the ratings, no. Unless it's Adventure Time.
I'm not sure new shows are the answer just yet (that was what arguably killed Saturday Night Toonami in the first place). Start with bumpers and then gradually introduce new content. Prime the pump a little.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 02, 2012, 02:19:54 PM
Quote from: Rynnec on April 02, 2012, 02:19:27 PM
Cartoon Network has also adopted AS's "weird shit is funny" philosophy. Do kids really find shit like that funny?
Judging from the ratings, no. Unless it's Adventure Time.
What? The kids don't
love Problem Solverz? I'm SHOCKED, sir, SHOCKED!
Quote from: Lord Dalek on April 02, 2012, 02:20:44 PM
I'm not sure new shows are the answer just yet (that was what arguably killed Saturday Night Toonami in the first place). Start with bumpers and then gradually introduce new content. Prime the pump a little.
Admittedly, yeah. But it was because Toonami picked poor shows instead of new ones. I mean, who the hell even likes Prince of Tennis? Besides fangirls, I mean.
Quote from: Foggle on April 02, 2012, 02:22:10 PM
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 02, 2012, 02:19:54 PM
Quote from: Rynnec on April 02, 2012, 02:19:27 PM
Cartoon Network has also adopted AS's "weird shit is funny" philosophy. Do kids really find shit like that funny?
Judging from the ratings, no. Unless it's Adventure Time.
What? The kids don't love Problem Solverz? I'm SHOCKED, sir, SHOCKED!
*Cue Chdr*
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 02, 2012, 02:23:11 PM
Quote from: Lord Dalek on April 02, 2012, 02:20:44 PM
I'm not sure new shows are the answer just yet (that was what arguably killed Saturday Night Toonami in the first place). Start with bumpers and then gradually introduce new content. Prime the pump a little.
Admittedly, yeah. But it was because Toonami picked poor shows instead of new ones. I mean, who the hell even likes Prince of Tennis? Besides fangirls, I mean.
Or DICE, or Hamtaro, or Wulin Warriors... Toonami always had a bad apple in there somewhere, but it wasn't until the very end (last 2/3 years) where they pretty much grabbed anything they could get without any regard for whether it was something that would be worth it or not. Something Adult Swim took to like a duck to water.
Is there any reason Adult Swim didn't have shows like Archer, Bob's Burgers, or Monster on the block? Losing the Sealab/Frisky Dingo team to FX, Loren Bouchard to FOX, and the potential for actual adult anime to freaking SyFy for more of their sub-Aqua Teen and teenager-oriented anime further limiting their scope.
It's no different than how Toonami lost a lot of obvious shows that should have been there late in its run for little to no reason.
And let's not forget that they lost fucking TTGL to SyFy (which would have gotten them insane ratings, I'm sure) and simultaneously how far downhill ATHF went.
Yeah, I'm not even saying Monster would have been a hit, but if it was airing new episodes 5 days a week it probably would have caught on and at least been a modest success. The show never would have worked weekly, and as SyFy proved, it didn't.
Quote from: Avaitor on April 02, 2012, 08:53:56 AM
Oh, and since I finally got to watch the full hour of Cartoon Planet on my DVR, what would you say your favorite episode from that set was?
While it's not my favorite of the shows here, I really got a laugh out of the Cow & Chicken one myself. I mean, the Dexter, Johnny and PPG ones were still great too, but I feel like I've seen them enough times recently in comparison (especially JB, since I have that ep on DVD), but since I've seen C&C considerably less in recent times than the other three, it felt fresher and more welcome to me. And it was pretty funny to boot. Although if "Meet the Beat-Alls" did air as it was originally scheduled to, that would easily have been my favorite. That ep just never gets old.
If you wanted me to rank what we got, it'd look like this
1- Cow & Chicken
2- Johnny Bravo
3- Powerpuff Girls
4- Dexter's Lab
5- Foster's
I didn't really like the Foster's ep. I love Kevin McDonald and all, but there's only so much of his screeching that I can tolerate in an 11 minute span, and his running around yelling "STEVIE" throughout the whole episode nearly made me deaf. And the rest of the characters were overly obnoxious here as well, aside from maybe Mac.
Was that the Cow & Chicken episode with the giant cigarette? If so then that's the only good episode. Like how Billy & Mandy's only good episode is the first one...and the clown episode.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 02, 2012, 02:23:11 PM
Quote from: Lord Dalek on April 02, 2012, 02:20:44 PM
I'm not sure new shows are the answer just yet (that was what arguably killed Saturday Night Toonami in the first place). Start with bumpers and then gradually introduce new content. Prime the pump a little.
Admittedly, yeah. But it was because Toonami picked poor shows instead of new ones. I mean, who the hell even likes Prince of Tennis? Besides fangirls, I mean.
Or DICE, or Hamtaro, or Wulin Warriors... Toonami always had a bad apple in there somewhere, but it wasn't until the very end (last 2/3 years) where they pretty much grabbed anything they could get without any regard for whether it was something that would be worth it or not. Something Adult Swim took to like a duck to water.
Is there any reason Adult Swim didn't have shows like Archer, Bob's Burgers, or Monster on the block? Losing the Sealab/Frisky Dingo team to FX, Loren Bouchard to FOX, and the potential for actual adult anime to freaking SyFy for more of their sub-Aqua Teen and teenager-oriented anime further limiting their scope.
It's no different than how Toonami lost a lot of obvious shows that should have been there late in its run for little to no reason.
[/quote]Huh?! I never watched it but wouldn't Hamtaro be good in the mix? I think Toonami would be fine with some variety like that.
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 02, 2012, 06:52:51 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on April 02, 2012, 08:53:56 AM
Oh, and since I finally got to watch the full hour of Cartoon Planet on my DVR, what would you say your favorite episode from that set was?
While it's not my favorite of the shows here, I really got a laugh out of the Cow & Chicken one myself. I mean, the Dexter, Johnny and PPG ones were still great too, but I feel like I've seen them enough times recently in comparison (especially JB, since I have that ep on DVD), but since I've seen C&C considerably less in recent times than the other three, it felt fresher and more welcome to me. And it was pretty funny to boot. Although if "Meet the Beat-Alls" did air as it was originally scheduled to, that would easily have been my favorite. That ep just never gets old.
If you wanted me to rank what we got, it'd look like this
1- Cow & Chicken
2- Johnny Bravo
3- Powerpuff Girls
4- Dexter's Lab
5- Foster's
I didn't really like the Foster's ep. I love Kevin McDonald and all, but there's only so much of his screeching that I can tolerate in an 11 minute span, and his running around yelling "STEVIE" throughout the whole episode nearly made me deaf. And the rest of the characters were overly obnoxious here as well, aside from maybe Mac.
Was that the Cow & Chicken episode with the giant cigarette? If so then that's the only good episode. Like how Billy & Mandy's only good episode is the first one...and the clown episode.
It's the one where they ran a meat shop in the cafteria.
Quote from: Rynnec on April 02, 2012, 02:19:27 PM
Cartoon Network has also adopted AS's "weird shit is funny" philosophy. Do kids really find shit like that funny?
Well, hey, I like Regular Show. Does that fall under the same category? :sweat:
Pretty much everything else, though... you can just tell that stuff like Problem Solverz and SMFA and even MAD are AS castoffs that didn't quite make the cut for the older audiences (didn't Problem Solverz actually originate as an AS pilot, in fact?). SMFA especially; have you guys actually seen that one yet? I swear, there is so much toilet humor in that show, I was just counting down the seconds until they made their first dick joke (kid approved, of course).
What's SMFA?
Secret Mountain Fort Awesome.
It was some show that was a part of the Cartoonstitute program under the name Uncle Grandpa.
Quote from: Daxdiv on April 02, 2012, 07:40:26 PM
Secret Mountain Fort Awesome.
It was some show that was a part of the Cartoonstitute program under the name Uncle Grandpa.
Yeah, this.
I only watched it once, so I don't even know if it's still on anymore or what. It was pretty awful though, so I wouldn't be totally surprised to see it cancelled after one season.
The name alone reeks of Tim & Eric-style awfulness.
.....
I just Googled it and... what the fuck? These are easily some of the most grotesque character designs I've ever seen; possibly even worse than Problem Solverz. HURR ONE OF THEM IS MADE OUT OF BUTTS ISN'T THAT FUNNY GUYS
Dammit, let's go back to talking about what would make Toonami awesome again.
Actually, watching DBZ the other night, I was reminded once again how much I love the Bruce Faulconer soundtrack. I'm pretty certain I'm in the minority here (I know Spark doesn't like it, anyway), and it is a replacement score, so weeaboos be damned, but some of those tracks just sound great to me. I'm still not sure if what it is, if that's just the nostalgia talking or what, but I'm not going to argue.
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 02, 2012, 08:00:30 PM
Dammit, let's go back to talking about what would make Toonami awesome again.
For starters, try to get a good relationship with FUNi going, since it has the most licenses nowadays. I mean, shit like Darker Than Black, Soul Eater, and D. Gray-Man might do well for kids watching the block.
And yeah, I have a soft spot for Faulconer. The Perfect Cell theme is one of my favourites.
Quote from: Kiddington on April 02, 2012, 08:08:41 PM
Actually, watching DBZ the other night, I was reminded once again how much I love the Bruce Faulconer soundtrack. I'm pretty certain I'm in the minority here (I know Spark doesn't like it, anyway), and it is a replacement score, so weeaboos be damned, but some of those tracks just sound great to me. I'm still not sure if what it is, if that's just the nostalgia talking or what, but I'm not going to argue.
Fuck Spark, ensatsuken and Desen. The Faulconer soundtrack is the clear best. Kai's is ok...up until the Cell saga. It's fitting for the older episodes because it gives that old school but after the animation improvement in later episodes, it feels so out of place. I'm not sure why people prefer the original besides the fact that it "came first". It's a space kungfu cosmic shounen comedy and Bruce's music fits that and not whatever snooty title they have for whatever makes them think the original fits better.
I have never said anything bad about the DBZ dub... like ever. I actually like it.
... I still can't believe AS lost Adam Reed and Loren Bouchard and now the pair are having success elsewhere. Talk about cultivating talent.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 02, 2012, 08:30:43 PM
I have never said anything bad about the DBZ dub... like ever. I actually like it.
Sorry, I thought you mentioned before that you didn't care for the Faulconer score (which is okay with me even if you did anyway, as I don't take this show as stone-cold seriously as some people do).
Didn't mean to drag you into this like that.
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 02, 2012, 08:15:36 PM
Quote from: Kiddington on April 02, 2012, 08:08:41 PM
Actually, watching DBZ the other night, I was reminded once again how much I love the Bruce Faulconer soundtrack. I'm pretty certain I'm in the minority here (I know Spark doesn't like it, anyway), and it is a replacement score, so weeaboos be damned, but some of those tracks just sound great to me. I'm still not sure if what it is, if that's just the nostalgia talking or what, but I'm not going to argue.
Fuck Spark, ensatsuken and Desen. The Faulconer soundtrack is the clear best. Kai's is ok...up until the Cell saga. It's fitting for the older episodes because it gives that old school but after the animation improvement in later episodes, it feels so out of place. I'm not sure why people prefer the original besides the fact that it "came first". It's a space kungfu cosmic shounen comedy and Bruce's music fits that and not whatever snooty title they have for whatever makes them think the original fits better.
I prefer the Faulconer music too. I can respect the Kikuichi's original score, and I'm fond of Kai's as well (despite the plagarism), but when it comes to something as action-heavy as DBZ, I prefer more rockier music, and Faulconer and co. delivers that.
Quote from: Kiddington on April 02, 2012, 08:37:28 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 02, 2012, 08:30:43 PM
I have never said anything bad about the DBZ dub... like ever. I actually like it.
Sorry, I thought you mentioned before that you didn't care for the Faulconer score (which is okay with me even if you did anyway, as I don't take this show as stone-cold seriously as some people do).
Didn't mean to drag you into this like that.
It's cool, but I do really like his score. It's a good alternative to the original.
I actually like the original DB's music more than DBZ's since I think that style of music tends to suit the original series more.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 02, 2012, 08:47:44 PM
Quote from: Kiddington on April 02, 2012, 08:37:28 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 02, 2012, 08:30:43 PM
I have never said anything bad about the DBZ dub... like ever. I actually like it.
Sorry, I thought you mentioned before that you didn't care for the Faulconer score (which is okay with me even if you did anyway, as I don't take this show as stone-cold seriously as some people do).
Didn't mean to drag you into this like that.
It's cool, but I do really like his score. It's a good alternative to the original.
I actually like the original DB's music more than DBZ's since I think that style of music tends to suit the original series more.
It really does.
IMO Kikuichi's score fits perfectly into what Dragon Ball offers; a light-hearted shonen action series. DBZ, on the other hand, is a lot more serious, the villains a lot more deadly, and everything is amplified x1000. The music should reflect that, and Faulconer's score does. Kikuichi's is pretty much the same stuff he did for Dragon Ball, and most of it just feels out of place. You've got a lot of tense moments with no music or sound whatsoever, or serious moments with light-hearted tracks, and after watching the show with both scores, Faulconer's just fits so much better to me.
I remember someone on tz said that the original score for DBZ kind of sounded more like Hanna-Barbera music than anything and that Faulconer's just fits it better. I pretty much agree with him.
Yeah, this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgZrN8TuWvE) doesn't really get me as psyched for DBZ as this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC3hjGEd4nc).
And for the hell of it. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjRut8yA3hA)
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 02, 2012, 08:58:17 PM
Yeah, this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgZrN8TuWvE) doesn't really get me as psyched for DBZ as this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC3hjGEd4nc).
Damn, Faulconer's score is
jammin!
Quote from: Avaitor on April 02, 2012, 08:56:06 PM
I remember someone on tz said that the original score for DBZ kind of sounded more like Hanna-Barbera music than anything and that Faulconer's just fits it better. I pretty much agree with him.
Haha, wow.
I can just imagine Jacob Paschal's reaction if he had seen that. It'd probably be nothing short of a full blown aneurysm.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 02, 2012, 08:58:17 PM
Yeah, this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgZrN8TuWvE) doesn't really get me as psyched for DBZ as this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC3hjGEd4nc).
Ah, one of my favorites. A perfect shortened version to the excellent opening theme. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzyfR5CkVFQ)
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 02, 2012, 08:58:17 PM
And for the hell of it. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjRut8yA3hA)
Brilliant.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 02, 2012, 08:58:17 PM
And for the hell of it. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjRut8yA3hA)
This is the greatest thing ever.
Quote from: Rynnec on April 02, 2012, 08:39:17 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 02, 2012, 08:15:36 PM
Quote from: Kiddington on April 02, 2012, 08:08:41 PM
Actually, watching DBZ the other night, I was reminded once again how much I love the Bruce Faulconer soundtrack. I'm pretty certain I'm in the minority here (I know Spark doesn't like it, anyway), and it is a replacement score, so weeaboos be damned, but some of those tracks just sound great to me. I'm still not sure if what it is, if that's just the nostalgia talking or what, but I'm not going to argue.
Fuck Spark, ensatsuken and Desen. The Faulconer soundtrack is the clear best. Kai's is ok...up until the Cell saga. It's fitting for the older episodes because it gives that old school but after the animation improvement in later episodes, it feels so out of place. I'm not sure why people prefer the original besides the fact that it "came first". It's a space kungfu cosmic shounen comedy and Bruce's music fits that and not whatever snooty title they have for whatever makes them think the original fits better.
I prefer the Faulconer music too. I can respect the Kikuichi's original score, and I'm fond of Kai's as well (despite the plagarism), but when it comes to something as action-heavy as DBZ, I prefer more rockier music, and Faulconer and co. delivers that.
Exactly. It's like people are demanding some soothing shit or some classic whatever. I hate this IMMA OTAKU AND WHAT CAME FIRST IS TEH BEST shit. I bet if Kai wasn't based off of the manga, they'd hate it for coming last too. :D
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Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 02, 2012, 08:47:44 PM
Quote from: Kiddington on April 02, 2012, 08:37:28 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 02, 2012, 08:30:43 PM
I have never said anything bad about the DBZ dub... like ever. I actually like it.
It makes sense that the same guy did both. Kai's music sounds like something that belongs in Dragonball. It really does feel out of place in the Cell saga though.
Sorry, I thought you mentioned before that you didn't care for the Faulconer score (which is okay with me even if you did anyway, as I don't take this show as stone-cold seriously as some people do).
Didn't mean to drag you into this like that.
It's cool, but I do really like his score. It's a good alternative to the original.
I actually like the original DB's music more than DBZ's since I think that style of music tends to suit the original series more.
It really does.
IMO Kikuichi's score fits perfectly into what Dragon Ball offers; a light-hearted shonen action series. DBZ, on the other hand, is a lot more serious, the villains a lot more deadly, and everything is amplified x1000. The music should reflect that, and Faulconer's score does. Kikuichi's is pretty much the same stuff he did for Dragon Ball, and most of it just feels out of place. You've got a lot of tense moments with no music or sound whatsoever, or serious moments with light-hearted tracks, and after watching the show with both scores, Faulconer's just fits so much better to me.
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 02, 2012, 09:23:57 PM
Quote from: Rynnec on April 02, 2012, 08:39:17 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 02, 2012, 08:15:36 PM
Quote from: Kiddington on April 02, 2012, 08:08:41 PM
Actually, watching DBZ the other night, I was reminded once again how much I love the Bruce Faulconer soundtrack. I'm pretty certain I'm in the minority here (I know Spark doesn't like it, anyway), and it is a replacement score, so weeaboos be damned, but some of those tracks just sound great to me. I'm still not sure if what it is, if that's just the nostalgia talking or what, but I'm not going to argue.
Fuck Spark, ensatsuken and Desen. The Faulconer soundtrack is the clear best. Kai's is ok...up until the Cell saga. It's fitting for the older episodes because it gives that old school but after the animation improvement in later episodes, it feels so out of place. I'm not sure why people prefer the original besides the fact that it "came first". It's a space kungfu cosmic shounen comedy and Bruce's music fits that and not whatever snooty title they have for whatever makes them think the original fits better.
I prefer the Faulconer music too. I can respect the Kikuichi's original score, and I'm fond of Kai's as well (despite the plagarism), but when it comes to something as action-heavy as DBZ, I prefer more rockier music, and Faulconer and co. delivers that.
Exactly. It's like people are demanding some soothing shit or some classic whatever. I hate this IMMA OTAKU AND WHAT CAME FIRST IS TEH BEST shit. I bet if Kai wasn't based off of the manga, they'd hate it for coming last too. :D
As long as you understand that Steve Blum is terrible as Spike Spiegel and that the Cowboy Bebop English dub is disgraceful in general simply because it's not Japanese.
(no, really, I've seen people say this shit before)
Quote from: Avaitor on April 02, 2012, 08:35:25 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 02, 2012, 08:15:36 PM
Fuck Spark, ensatsuken and Desen.
lol
.3. Can't believe I wasted a good on-the-fly insult for the wrong occassion.
Well at least Foggle sigged it. Me almost snorting from laughing from seeing that alone is worth iy.
Quote from: Foggle on April 02, 2012, 09:26:02 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 02, 2012, 09:23:57 PM
Quote from: Rynnec on April 02, 2012, 08:39:17 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 02, 2012, 08:15:36 PM
Quote from: Kiddington on April 02, 2012, 08:08:41 PM
Actually, watching DBZ the other night, I was reminded once again how much I love the Bruce Faulconer soundtrack. I'm pretty certain I'm in the minority here (I know Spark doesn't like it, anyway), and it is a replacement score, so weeaboos be damned, but some of those tracks just sound great to me. I'm still not sure if what it is, if that's just the nostalgia talking or what, but I'm not going to argue.
Fuck Spark, ensatsuken and Desen. The Faulconer soundtrack is the clear best. Kai's is ok...up until the Cell saga. It's fitting for the older episodes because it gives that old school but after the animation improvement in later episodes, it feels so out of place. I'm not sure why people prefer the original besides the fact that it "came first". It's a space kungfu cosmic shounen comedy and Bruce's music fits that and not whatever snooty title they have for whatever makes them think the original fits better.
I prefer the Faulconer music too. I can respect the Kikuichi's original score, and I'm fond of Kai's as well (despite the plagarism), but when it comes to something as action-heavy as DBZ, I prefer more rockier music, and Faulconer and co. delivers that.
Exactly. It's like people are demanding some soothing shit or some classic whatever. I hate this IMMA OTAKU AND WHAT CAME FIRST IS TEH BEST shit. I bet if Kai wasn't based off of the manga, they'd hate it for coming last too. :D
As long as you understand that Steve Blum is terrible as Spike Spiegel and that the Cowboy Bebop English dub is disgraceful in general simply because it's not Japanese.
(no, really, I've seen people say this shit before)
:shit: I won't accept anything more than "Faye's voice seems kind of off" Anything beyond that that isn't :worship:ing is the equivalent of failing an IQ test you studied for.
Didn't even the staff behind Cowboy Bebop say they preferred the dub voices? I'm pretty sure that happened.
Anybody who claims to dislike the Cowboy Bebop dub to such a degree isn't even trying to hide where their priorities lie.
They might as well just move to Japan and be done with it.
Faye's English voice is awesome, dude. All of the voice work in Bebop is.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 02, 2012, 09:32:41 PM
Didn't even the staff behind Cowboy Bebop say they preferred the dub voices? I'm pretty sure that happened.
Yes, they did. Watanabe is reportedly an Amerophile and once said something to the extent of "Cowboy Bebop was always intended more for western audiences."
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 02, 2012, 09:32:41 PM
Didn't even the staff behind Cowboy Bebop say they preferred the dub voices? I'm pretty sure that happened.
EK LOVES mentioning that Watanabe prefers the English dub. We've had plenty of conversations about that.
Besides that, I know from the Bebop movie that Jet's English voice actor likes his Japanese counterpart's voice over. I believe I remember them playing a clip and it was good. :thumbup:
Quote from: Foggle on April 02, 2012, 09:35:05 PM
Faye's English voice is awesome, dude. All of the voice work in Bebop is.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 02, 2012, 09:32:41 PM
Didn't even the staff behind Cowboy Bebop say they preferred the dub voices? I'm pretty sure that happened.
Yes, they did. Watanabe is reportedly an Amerophile and once said something to the extent of "Cowboy Bebop was always intended more for western audiences."
Quote from: Foggle on April 02, 2012, 09:35:05 PM
Faye's English voice is awesome, dude. All of the voice work in Bebop is.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 02, 2012, 09:32:41 PM
Didn't even the staff behind Cowboy Bebop say they preferred the dub voices? I'm pretty sure that happened.
Yes, they did. Watanabe is reportedly an Amerophile and once said something to the extent of "Cowboy Bebop was always intended more for western audiences."
Oh, I like it. I just remember someone else saying that and I thought that was acceptable.
Nice tidbit about Watanabe. He does love American culture.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 02, 2012, 08:58:17 PM
Yeah, this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgZrN8TuWvE) doesn't really get me as psyched for DBZ as this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC3hjGEd4nc).
And for the hell of it. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjRut8yA3hA)
The first two second of the first one sounds like something straight out of Mega Man.
I friggin' love the Faulconer soundtrack. Enough that I bought a few of the CD volumes. The baddie themes are awesome, as is the track that always played whenever a major bad guy finally died.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 02, 2012, 08:58:17 PM
Yeah, this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OgZrN8TuWvE) doesn't really get me as psyched for DBZ as this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kC3hjGEd4nc).
Ah, one of my favorites. A perfect shortened version to the excellent opening theme. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzyfR5CkVFQ)
[/quote]Very nice.
It's a shame this track (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzApzm5M-8Y) never played in the show proper (at least not that I can recall). Trunks had some of the best themes dedicated to him.
Quote from: Rynnec on April 02, 2012, 11:41:04 PM
It's a shame this track (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CzApzm5M-8Y) never played in the show proper (at least not that I can recall). Trunks had some of the best themes dedicated to him.
I....didn't even know DBZ had music like this.
Toonami was fun for the one night it was on pretending it had never really left, but that's about it for me. I don't have cable anymore and I certainly wouldn't pay to have it back just for an old block I used to watch.
Quote from: Rosalinas Spare Wand on April 03, 2012, 12:34:39 AM
Toonami was fun for the one night it was on pretending it had never really left, but that's about it for me. I don't have cable anymore and I certainly wouldn't pay to have it back just for an old block I used to watch.
I would. That's all that matters.
Quote from: Kiddington on April 02, 2012, 08:08:41 PM
Actually, watching DBZ the other night, I was reminded once again how much I love the Bruce Faulconer soundtrack. I'm pretty certain I'm in the minority here (I know Spark doesn't like it, anyway), and it is a replacement score, so weeaboos be damned, but some of those tracks just sound great to me. I'm still not sure if what it is, if that's just the nostalgia talking or what, but I'm not going to argue.
I'm probably going to get stoned for this, but I still like Shuki and Ron's work on the Saiyan/Namek sagas more than Faulconer's overall contributions.
Quote from: Lord Dalek on April 03, 2012, 06:28:10 PM
Quote from: Kiddington on April 02, 2012, 08:08:41 PM
Actually, watching DBZ the other night, I was reminded once again how much I love the Bruce Faulconer soundtrack. I'm pretty certain I'm in the minority here (I know Spark doesn't like it, anyway), and it is a replacement score, so weeaboos be damned, but some of those tracks just sound great to me. I'm still not sure if what it is, if that's just the nostalgia talking or what, but I'm not going to argue.
I'm probably going to get stoned for this, but I still like Shuki and Ron's work on the Saiyan/Namek sagas more than Faulconer's overall contributions.
Post links.
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftinyurl.com%2F7slv3gg&hash=f938de2f5362c1e2fe779cbf64f1bf137c7c3d70)
This can only be a good sign, right? RIGHT?!?!
Ok, I'm officially excited. I can't help myself.
Just don't get your hopes too high.
While it would be nice, let's not get too hyped up.
It's as good as back. Why else would they have responded this much? If it really was a one time deal, they would've just let it air, let the internet bitch, and move on. The fact that they are responding tells me they are bringing it back.
The real questions are when it'll come back, what will air on it, and of course how long it'll last.
I think at most, they'll replace some of their anime repeats with a couple of Toonami shows. I'd love to see Tom return full time, but I kind of doubt that it'll happen.
If they're taking this much time to continue acknowledging the block as much as they are, I have to believe this is a full-on comeback. Not just the shows; TOM, the bumps, everything. I mean, why else would they continue to bring it up as often as they have? I know AS likes to play mind games with their viewing audience more often than not, but I refuse to believe they'd go through this much effort in reviving the brand and all the feelings it brought, only to turn around and say "haha, jokes on you!".
It may not be next week, hell, it may not even be next month, but I'm truly starting to believe this is coming back at some point, at least for a time being anyway. I guess we'll wait and see, though.
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Quote from: Lord Dalek on April 03, 2012, 06:28:10 PM
Quote from: Kiddington on April 02, 2012, 08:08:41 PM
Actually, watching DBZ the other night, I was reminded once again how much I love the Bruce Faulconer soundtrack. I'm pretty certain I'm in the minority here (I know Spark doesn't like it, anyway), and it is a replacement score, so weeaboos be damned, but some of those tracks just sound great to me. I'm still not sure if what it is, if that's just the nostalgia talking or what, but I'm not going to argue.
I'm probably going to get stoned for this, but I still like Shuki and Ron's work on the Saiyan/Namek sagas more than Faulconer's overall contributions.
Post links.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5fsDYdDwLo&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNHQVY2P1W8&feature=relmfu
Quote from: Comeau on April 04, 2012, 05:55:34 PM
It's as good as back. Why else would they have responded this much? If it really was a one time deal, they would've just let it air, let the internet bitch, and move on. The fact that they are responding tells me they are bringing it back.
The real questions are when it'll come back, what will air on it, and of course how long it'll last.
AKA fuck what Desen says. :thumbup:
Quote from: Lord Dalek on April 05, 2012, 07:49:05 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 04, 2012, 12:40:06 PM
Quote from: Lord Dalek on April 03, 2012, 06:28:10 PM
Quote from: Kiddington on April 02, 2012, 08:08:41 PM
Actually, watching DBZ the other night, I was reminded once again how much I love the Bruce Faulconer soundtrack. I'm pretty certain I'm in the minority here (I know Spark doesn't like it, anyway), and it is a replacement score, so weeaboos be damned, but some of those tracks just sound great to me. I'm still not sure if what it is, if that's just the nostalgia talking or what, but I'm not going to argue.
I'm probably going to get stoned for this, but I still like Shuki and Ron's work on the Saiyan/Namek sagas more than Faulconer's overall contributions.
Post links.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5fsDYdDwLo&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNHQVY2P1W8&feature=relmfu
Oh, the Ocean version. No wonder they got ignored. Good stuff. :thumbup:
Quote from: Lord Dalek on April 05, 2012, 07:49:05 PM
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 04, 2012, 12:40:06 PM
Quote from: Lord Dalek on April 03, 2012, 06:28:10 PM
Quote from: Kiddington on April 02, 2012, 08:08:41 PM
Actually, watching DBZ the other night, I was reminded once again how much I love the Bruce Faulconer soundtrack. I'm pretty certain I'm in the minority here (I know Spark doesn't like it, anyway), and it is a replacement score, so weeaboos be damned, but some of those tracks just sound great to me. I'm still not sure if what it is, if that's just the nostalgia talking or what, but I'm not going to argue.
I'm probably going to get stoned for this, but I still like Shuki and Ron's work on the Saiyan/Namek sagas more than Faulconer's overall contributions.
Post links.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5fsDYdDwLo&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNHQVY2P1W8&feature=relmfu
Ooooh, now there's some nostalgia I haven't heard in years. Other than Rock the Dragon, I had forgotten about most of the old Ocean tracks. Those are pretty good, I'll say (another one that I'm quite fond of that you didn't post is this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouPt-H6ft0g&feature=relmfu)).
...but, overall, I still like Faulconer's score better. Just me, though.
Another week, another ep of Cartoon Planet. This is how I rate the eps present.
EEnE
Billy & Mandy
Chowder
Camp Lazlo
Lazlo was the definite low light- reminded me of why I don't miss the show at all. The Eds episode, on the flipside, is an absolute classic. Wanna figure out why it ranked so high on our list? Watch this one again. And the other two were fun. I miss season 1 of Chowder.
Also, is it just me, or was this EEnE ep in HD?
Jason DeMarco confirms on Twitter; no Toonami tonight. :sadface
...but, on the bright side, it sounds like they are at least working on it, so it's only a matter of time. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say sometime next month sounds like a good bet, depending on how much time they put into this.
Also, I missed Cartoon Planet again last night, so I can't really comment on that. Sounds like Lazlo was its usual terrible self, though, so I guess I didn't miss too much.
I guess the AFD thing was testing the waters.
Testing what, I don't really know. People didn't stop watching Toonami because they were sick of it, they stopped watching because of the poor line up. Same with any block. (Like how many times have they revived TGIF with a lame line up?)
Yeah, if they just sprinkle bumpers with Tom over episodes of Bleach and FMA, I can't say I'm too interested. I love him and all, but I can't say it's worth it to watch shows I don't care about or don't feel like rewatching just to see some new footage of him.
As cool as it'd be to see FMA and DRRR air with Toonami bumpers, I agree that it's best if they wait til they get more shows that they can premiere (or at least airing rights of shows that haven't aired in a while).
Quote from: Kiddington on April 07, 2012, 12:52:58 PM
Jason DeMarco confirms on Twitter; no Toonami tonight. :sadface
...but, on the bright side, it sounds like they are at least working on it, so it's only a matter of time. If I had to hazard a guess, I'd say sometime next month sounds like a good bet, depending on how much time they put into this.
Also, I missed Cartoon Planet again last night, so I can't really comment on that. Sounds like Lazlo was its usual terrible self, though, so I guess I didn't miss too much.
Not even a mention? Damn.
Another one bites the dust....
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Quote from: Kiddington on April 02, 2012, 08:08:41 PM
Actually, watching DBZ the other night, I was reminded once again how much I love the Bruce Faulconer soundtrack. I'm pretty certain I'm in the minority here (I know Spark doesn't like it, anyway), and it is a replacement score, so weeaboos be damned, but some of those tracks just sound great to me. I'm still not sure if what it is, if that's just the nostalgia talking or what, but I'm not going to argue.
I'm probably going to get stoned for this, but I still like Shuki and Ron's work on the Saiyan/Namek sagas more than Faulconer's overall contributions.
Post links.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P5fsDYdDwLo&feature=relmfu
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fNHQVY2P1W8&feature=relmfu
Ooooh, now there's some nostalgia I haven't heard in years. Other than Rock the Dragon, I had forgotten about most of the old Ocean tracks. Those are pretty good, I'll say (another one that I'm quite fond of that you didn't post is this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouPt-H6ft0g&feature=relmfu)).
...but, overall, I still like Faulconer's score better. Just me, though.
Not bad. I didn't know they were responsible for Rock The Dragon.
Well, if anyone cares about this sort of thing, the ratings for Toonami are officially in. (http://sonofthebronx.blogspot.com/2012/04/adult-swim-ratings-march-26-april-1.html)
It's a little hard to read the chart, given that they lumped in that nights broadcast with everything else from the previous week, but from what people are saying elsewhere, it sounds like it did pretty good for itself.
Probably the one highlight for me is that DBZ had almost the exact same number of viewers as Bleach. All these years later, and Goku and co. still got it. That is one show with some amazing longevity, I'll say.
Yu Yu Hakusho lower than Tim & Eric... Sigh.
Quote144 SQUIDBILLIES Thu 1:15AM- 1:30AM 15 0.6 640
145 HARVEY BIRDMAN Sun 1:15AM- 1:30AM 15 0.5 636
THERE IS SOMETHING VERY WRONG HERE
It's only 15 minutes, people. You can do it.
My friend posted this on his wall.
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsphotos.xx.fbcdn.net%2Fhphotos-ash4%2F418512_219965141429026_124373207654887_433282_953465861_n.jpg&hash=5f8e65243da0951232dda6f4cfe16e8400fb8c25)
Anyone else see something wrong with this?
I want to install a vomiting emoticon just so I can use it as a response to that post.
My Gym Partner Is a Monkey? :gonk:
Eh, I personally think that MLP would fit right in with CN's roster. Anyone who says otherwise is being a jackass.
And yeah, the hell is with MGPIAM being there?
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 10, 2012, 11:35:19 PM
My Gym Partner Is a Monkey? :gonk:
Bingo. That and about half the shows there are from a totally different TV era if its trying to invoke nostalgia. But seriously, who the fuck will ever feel nostalgia for Gym Partner?
Quote from: Rosalinas Spare Wand on April 10, 2012, 11:52:17 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 10, 2012, 11:35:19 PM
My Gym Partner Is a Monkey? :gonk:
Bingo. That and about half the shows there are from a totally different TV era if its trying to invoke nostalgia. But seriously, who the fuck will ever feel nostalgia for Gym Partner?
The moment CN ever re-airs that shit, be prepared to hear nothing but "OMG, I used to watch that so much back in school" on the Twittah.
The fuck is Cheese doing on there?
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 10, 2012, 11:35:19 PM
My Gym Partner Is a Monkey? :gonk:
Does not exist. It was a figment of your imagination.
Quote from: Rosalinas Spare Wand on April 10, 2012, 11:52:17 PM
Bingo. That and about half the shows there are from a totally different TV era if its trying to invoke nostalgia. But seriously, who the fuck will ever feel nostalgia for Gym Partner?
Vomit for that and Foster's. No, really, I find Foster's to be one of the most insufferable shows of all time. I would rather watch Gym Partner.
Though the fact that the picture implies that a single worthwhile cartoon is as good as four also kind of rubs me the wrong way.
Too late.
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fp.twimg.com%2FAqLNSasCIAMtqjs.jpg&hash=d203d6a44c503c6767022a09b58751ad5e04d5dc)
HOLY SHIT WHAT THE FUCK
BRB KILLING MYSELF SLOWLY AND PAINFULLY
EDIT: SO ANGRY I FORGOT A LETTER
Quote from: Rynnec on April 10, 2012, 11:54:52 PM
Does not exist. It was a figment of your imagination.
God, don't we all wish?
Quote from: Foggle on April 10, 2012, 11:55:50 PM
Though the fact that the picture implies that a single worthwhile cartoon is as good as four also kind of rubs me the wrong way.
Tell me about it. He actually reposted it from a page on Facebook dedicated to Bronies from California. I'm afraid to take a look if its anywhere as bad as the college meme pages that we have.
You know, I don't like to browbeat tastes... much... but how can anybody be nostalgic for shows like that?
Things like Gym Partner and Rocket Power were everything wrong with cartoons at the time.
Quote from: Rosalinas Spare Wand on April 10, 2012, 11:52:17 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 10, 2012, 11:35:19 PM
My Gym Partner Is a Monkey? :gonk:
Bingo. That and about half the shows there are from a totally different TV era if its trying to invoke nostalgia. But seriously, who the fuck will ever feel nostalgia for Gym Partner?
Poor kids who had to grow up in that era. :cry:
Quote from: Foggle on April 10, 2012, 11:55:50 PM
Quote from: Rosalinas Spare Wand on April 10, 2012, 11:52:17 PM
Bingo. That and about half the shows there are from a totally different TV era if its trying to invoke nostalgia. But seriously, who the fuck will ever feel nostalgia for Gym Partner?
Vomit for that and Foster's. No, really, I find Foster's to be one of the most insufferable shows of all time. I would rather watch Gym Partner.
Though the fact that the picture implies that a single worthwhile cartoon is as good as four also kind of rubs me the wrong way.
I thought I was the only one who hated Foster's. ;D Hell, I might actually agree with rather watching MGPIAM. Compared to Foster's, Gym Monkey at least had some kind of charisma. Foster just had a Pac-Man ghost running around screaming.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on April 10, 2012, 11:56:55 PM
Too late.
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lol @ some of those names. :D That sums up the My Gym Partner Is A Monkey crowd.
Poor Dragonpiece. Caught with his pants down. :frown:
:wth:
The idea of Cartoon Planet is already souring me if this is really the path they're heading down in Week 2. If they're going to include Gym Partner, then anything might as well be fair game at this point (just imagine, Squirrel Boy, back from the dead... oh lord, help me).
Between this, and the stale undead state of The 90's Are All That, why is it so difficult for these networks to do a nostalgia block the right way? It can't possibly be that hard. Network suits, I swear.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 11, 2012, 12:28:42 AM
Poor Dragonpiece. Caught with his pants down. :frown:
I feel sorry for the kid. I really really do.
Who's Dragonpiece?
Quote from: Kiddington on April 11, 2012, 12:32:17 AM
(just imagine, Squirrel Boy, back from the dead... oh lord, help me).
Or worse... Out Of Jimmy's Head.
Quote from: Foggle on April 11, 2012, 12:35:14 AM
Who's Dragonpiece?
One of our friends at the ScratchPad. (http://therealscratchpad.wordpress.com/)
Oh my. :whuh:
Quote from: Foggle on April 11, 2012, 12:35:14 AM
Or worse... Out Of Jimmy's Head.
I'd like to say that it isn't very possible at all since they're only airing half-episodes, but I hear that they're going to put on half-hour eps of PPG and Foster's soon, so that might just be fair game.
And yeah, I'd take Gym Partner over OOJH any day.
Edit: also, I'm not surprised that MGIAM is being missed already. There's already nostalgia for Hannah Montana and people claiming that they missed Wizards of Waverly Place, when it was still fucking running, so it kind of makes sense that every crap show that has ended will be considered "classics" by some.
How can someone actually miss a show when it's still on the air? I mean really, how is that even possible?
...and I thought it was bad when people got all teary eyed and nostalgic over Lizzie McGuire. I really need to stop underestimating the internet when it comes to this kind of stuff. Never ceases to amaze.
I do also see people get nostalgic for SpongeBob and FOP, so it's not too bad I guess. But even those are like a decade old, plus FOP isn't anywhere near as prominent and SB isn't anywhere near as good as it used to be, while WOWP was barely like 5 and aired and was as stagnate as ever when it ended.
Quote from: Kiddington on April 11, 2012, 02:04:19 AM
...and I thought it was bad when people got all teary eyed and nostalgic over Lizzie McGuire. I really need to stop underestimating the internet when it comes to this kind of stuff. Never ceases to amaze.
We just gotta step back and realize we're getting old. More and more people are getting access to the internet nowadays, and the next generation of kids are making their presence known now. A few months ago, I was seeing Drake and Josh threads on /v/ and it was treated like a nostalgia thread. Sometimes I look up old anime dub openings on Youtube and I see people younger than me reminiscing about Kids WB or Fox Box or even Miguzi.
It's a bit shameful to see some people with pretty tight nostalgia googles though. I still like a lot of stuff from my childhood but I always get annoyed when I see others take those things as a reason to look down upon anything made in the last few years.
It's true. 13 is considered the criterion age for most sites, including this one, and 13-year-olds today wouldn't be able to remember the 90's at all. Or 9/11. Or a music industry without streaming music and where MTV showed videos. That's kind of scary.
I think like how nostalgia for the 80's peaked in the mid 00's then died out as the decade went on as the 20-30 somethings that supported the boost of sales for Transformers stuff grew up and started raising families of their own, the same will happen to the 90's kick that we're in now in a couple of years. There's already a bit of a demand for stuff from last decade to return, so it might happen even sooner than we think.
10 years from now:
MAN, YOU GUYS REMEMBER CALL OF DUTY? THAT WAS THE SHIT
:shit:
When I was 13... PPG had just premiered, Dexter and Cow and Chicken were still airing new episodes, and nobody gave a shit about Spongebob.
I weep for da yoof.
Maybe it's because I don't get heavily nostalgic (I tend to just watch an old show if I want to watch it), but usually people get nostalgic for the good things from when they were kids. I don't remember most of the lesser stuff (even if I enjoyed it then) or use it as example of why TV or whatever was better then as opposed to now.
Quote from: Lord Dalek on April 11, 2012, 10:04:36 AM
When I was 13... PPG had just premiered, Dexter and Cow and Chicken were still airing new episodes, and nobody gave a shit about Spongebob.
I weep for da yoof.
I remember the Space Ghost Coast-to-Coast episode that promoted those shows.
Another week, another ep of Cartoon Planet. Here's my rankings.
Dexter's Lab
I Am Weasel
Evil Con Carne
Courage
Kids Next Door
A pretty solid set. Even the KND episode had a couple of good lines ("Where'd you find with that fact?" "I made it up myself! That way, I know it's true."). This'll probably be the only time I rank Evil Con Carne over something like Courage, but I have a soft spot for the Grim & Evil run of the show, particularly this episode, the musical one. Dexter was my favorite since the ep contains the best aspects of the brother-sister/boy-girl relationship between Dexter and Dee Dee, which I think is what makes the show so great.
Wow, are you kidding me? I miss Cartoon Planet again, and they run an Evil Con Carne short?
I really need to start recording this in advance. Man, I kinda miss that show. Definitely the better half of Billy and Mandy.
If we're talking the first season, I wouldn't be against that so much, but when they became their own shows, I think that ECC couldn't hold its own.
Quote from: Avaitor on April 13, 2012, 10:52:29 PM
If we're talking the first season, I wouldn't be against that so much, but when they became their own shows, I think that ECC couldn't hold its own.
That's actually what I meant, yeah.
Really, I don't remember too much about the material from when the two shows were split, but apparently it wasn't good enough to sustain another season. But when they had them both running together, personally, I liked the ECC segments more.
I don't remember much from when it split either, but from what I do recall, Con Carne wasn't as good at 11-minute segments as it's earlier 7-minute shorts, while Billy & Mandy really seemed to work best with extended time. Obviously I wasn't the only one to think that, since B&M didn't take off until it became its own show, while ECC faded into obscurity fast.
Yeah, the ECC shorts were better when they were one show, but B&M really benefited from being its own thing.
I did enjoy the cameos when they crossed over, though.
I loved Skarr in Billy & Mandy. The episode when Hector and Ghastly reunited with him was great, too.
I uh, I never never noticed this before:
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FRxuUV.jpg&hash=5be6938e0d017b78c9e76f4d3a39a85fd4d2f63d).
The city of Townsville's ruins in Samurai Jack. It's so weird.
Yeah, it's kind of a cool, if bleak, nod.
Wasn't there going to be a clip in one of the shows where either the PPG or Jack was seen traveling through time through the others show in the background or something? I thought I remembered that.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 16, 2012, 08:10:27 PM
Wasn't there going to be a clip in one of the shows where either the PPG or Jack was seen traveling through time through the others show in the background or something? I thought I remembered that.
That, I don't know about, but I definitely remember the screencaps Chalmey posted.
Oh whoa. Looks like Aku somehow kicked the Powerpuff girls asses.
Huh, interesting. Don't think I've ever noticed that before.
That kinda makes me wonder; did Craig McCracken ever work on Jack to any degree? I know Genndy worked with him on Dexter's Lab, but I don't think they did much else together after that. Interesting either way, though.
Quote from: Kiddington on April 17, 2012, 04:26:46 PM
Huh, interesting. Don't think I've ever noticed that before.
That kinda makes me wonder; did Craig McCracken ever work on Jack to any degree? I know Genndy worked with him on Dexter's Lab, but I don't think they did much else together after that. Interesting either way, though.
They worked on Powerpuff Girls together.
Hey guys, check these out; OFFICIAL (or so I'm told) ANNIVERSARY BUMPERS (http://www.primalscreen.com/project/20thAnniversary/Twins)
I'll say, I'm impressed. I was almost certain that, given the amount of promo airspace they usually dedicate to whatever their hot garbage of the month is, they wouldn't find the time to acknowledge this, but apparently they are. Not sure when these will actually air on the channel itself (if they haven't already), but it probably shouldn't be long.
HONG KONG PHOOEY HOLY SHIT
That's much more effort than Nick put forth. I like.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 19, 2012, 09:06:29 PM
That's much more effort than Nick put forth. I like.
Did they actually put any effort at all into the Nicktoons anniversary? You know,
besides the cheap ass DVD sets?
I can't recall them doing anything.
Quote from: Kiddington on April 19, 2012, 09:10:47 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 19, 2012, 09:06:29 PM
That's much more effort than Nick put forth. I like.
Did they actually put any effort at all into the Nicktoons anniversary? You know, besides the cheap ass DVD sets?
I can't recall them doing anything.
Nick detests its older audience. Or did at the time.
So, yeah. That was pretty much it.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 19, 2012, 09:13:14 PM
Quote from: Kiddington on April 19, 2012, 09:10:47 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 19, 2012, 09:06:29 PM
That's much more effort than Nick put forth. I like.
Did they actually put any effort at all into the Nicktoons anniversary? You know, besides the cheap ass DVD sets?
I can't recall them doing anything.
Nick detests its older audience. Or did at the time.
So, yeah. That was pretty much it.
Really, even the token bone that they have thrown to their older audience (The 90's Are All That) is becoming extremely half-assed. They're just sitting on a goldmine of nostalgic programming, and yet they prefer to constantly run the same few episodes of Doug and All That into the ground ad nauseum (although I guess they are finally airing a "new" season of All That; baby steps, I suppose).
I don't get it. It's hard to understand why a network could be so wrapped up in leaving the past behind as they are (and the few attempts they do actually make to revive it are always so weak; they're not doing it as a labor of love, clearly), but, I suppose that's either here nor there.
Yeah, Nick has no respect whatsoever for its legacy shows. They have such bad tunnel-vision that they don't even realize that they're sinking in the ratings because they haven't tried to build any new shows since Spongebob, whenever they get something (like Avatar or Zim) with potential, they bury it and dump it ASAP. Once Spongebob ends and kids get sick of Dan Schneider's stuff, they have nothing to fill the void.
While CN has its issues, at least it does remember its roots and sometimes even plays older shows.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 19, 2012, 09:32:14 PM
Yeah, Nick has no respect whatsoever for its legacy shows. They have such bad tunnel-vision that they don't even realize that they're sinking in the ratings because they haven't tried to build any new shows since Spongebob, whenever they get something (like Avatar or Zim) with potential, they bury it and dump it ASAP. Once Spongebob ends and kids get sick of Dan Schneider's stuff, they have nothing to fill the void.
While CN has its issues, at least it does remember its roots and sometimes even plays older shows.
I agree. As silly as it may be for Cartoon Network to have live-action (Level Up really isn't that bad though from the episodes I sat through), I'm really happy they're finally starting to catch up to Nick and Disney's ratings because they're the one that has the best variety. I don't hate SpongeBob. but fact is it's been overexposed for too long. Tuff Puppy is actually decent, and I love the Kung Fu Panda series, but while the Panda still gets plenty of encores Tuff Puppy is practically isolated on Saturdays. And while I like iCarly and Victorious, they aren't going to last that much longer (iCarly has gotten to the point that Gibby is more grown now).
As for Disney, their lack of animation is sad considering how good their lineup used to be. Too many of their sitcoms are fame-seeking Hannah Montanna clones. The only watchable shows they have to me are Fish Hooks and Phineas and Ferb. And the former is pretty average. Judging by how their ratings are slipping too, I think it's obvious that Miley Cyrus was just Disney's SpongeBob. Now that she's older and retired from the show, the house of cards they built is slowly starting to topple. At least the Mouse House is supposed to have several new cartoons later on (or so I hear).
Nick does occasionally acknowledge their roots, like in the 90's Are All That block and recent DVDs, but they take for granted how much the teenage/young adult audience will eat it up if they let us. It's a shame, too.
These bumps are great, btw.
I agree that Nick notices the audience now, but I still don't think they quite get it. Letting shout get DVD rights and allowing Joe Murray to at least contribute something to the Rocko sets is a step in the right direction.
Disney is just banking on Hannah Montana lightning to strike twice. It hasn't and it probably won't. While doing that, they could at least try to expand their animated offerings. It is, after all, why they even exist.
CN had a rough period a few years ago, but they seem to be recovering. Playing Looney Tunes again is a massive coup (may it never leave again) and acknowledging the material that got them to where they are is nice, and the effort they put into their originals (subjective opinions aside) has been pretty good. We're far from the bland era and the live action period.
My biggest problem with the Nick DVD sets is how little overall effort is being put into them (other than Rocko). You've got nothing in the way of special features for any of the others sets, and then there's the "breaking them up into Parts 1 and 2" thing for the same cost as a full set, which is still complete crap... although from what Shout says, that whole deal is more on the major retailers like Walmart than it is on them or Nick, who claim they don't want to carry 4-Disc DVD sets of animated shows for whatever reason, so I don't know who to really believe on this.
They're getting better about these things no doubt (we've come a long way just in 2-3 years), but it still leaves much to be desired. Theoretically, The 90's Are All That should have solved the DVD problem anyway, since having these shows on TV again is pretty much the next best thing, but with so little variety in the lineup (seriously, AIR LEGENDS AGAIN, IT'S BEEN MONTHS), it's hard to call that any kind of real solution.
You'd think that Disney Channel would put more effort into their animation side considering how much of a cross-generational hit P&F is, but they really aren't. I mean, Disney XD does have a lot of shows, but nothing, Marvel aside, has any appeal for anyone over the age of 8.
Hiring Craig McCracken to be in charge of their animation department and having Tom Ruegger work on that Dwarves show for Disney Junior are steps in the right direction, but considering what happened to Fish Hooks, the chances are very likely that nothing good will come out of this.
A large portion of Disney XD isn't even in-house, though, which really speaks to the state of Disney animation that they're so called "animation channel" is roughly 70% Canadian imports.
Sigh... remember Toon Disney (aka Disney Afternoon, the channel)? Now that was a Disney animation channel done right. Where did it all go so wrong? :shit:
Quote from: Kiddington on April 20, 2012, 04:40:27 PM
A large portion of Disney XD isn't even in-house, though, which really speaks to the state of Disney animation that they're so called "animation channel" is roughly 70% Canadian imports.
Sigh... remember Toon Disney (aka Disney Afternoon, the channel)? Now that was a Disney animation channel done right. Where did it all go so wrong? :shit:
Jetix and those darn Power Rangers! >:(
Quote from: Avaitor on April 20, 2012, 04:27:24 PMHiring Craig McCracken to be in charge of their animation department and having Tom Ruegger work on that Dwarves show for Disney Junior are steps in the right direction, but considering what happened to Fish Hooks, the chances are very likely that nothing good will come out of this.
Really.
Back in the 80s, Disney realized they needed a push and created Gummi Bears, DuckTales, and the rest, and put everything they had into it.
Now they simply copy Cartoon Network/Nickelodeon and call it a day.
If they would at least
try, instead of wasting all that talent, they could be a real force again.
I mean, you gotta admit, whatever you think of the show now, the animation and artwork from this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loUNoy0Qub0) can easily fit into Disney's canon.
But when you watch this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCEMieM5OB8), would you guess that it came from the Mouse House?
Quote from: Avaitor on April 20, 2012, 05:07:10 PM
But when you watch this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCEMieM5OB8), would you guess that it came from the Mouse House?
I'll admit, I actually kinda like the art style this show has to offer (even though to answer your question, no, it doesn't look like something that came from Disney).
What kills it for me is just about everything else. When you have Kyle Massey providing voice overs for your animated series, and that
isn't the worst thing about it, you know you've got problems.
I think we should take this to the Disney forum here (http://animationrevelation.com/forum/index.php?topic=625.0). But yeah, I agree with you, Avaitor.
Back to Cartoon Network nostalgia, here is my rankings for this week's Cartoon Planet.
Johnny Bravo
Cow & Chicken
Flapjack
Billy & Mandy
Dial M for Monkey
Not one of the best, I feel. I don't care for season 1 of Billy & Mandy or Monkey, so these eps didn't do much for me. I also thought that the Flapjack wasn't too funny, although the ending was cute. The highlight by far was seeing the best episode of Johnny Bravo air. And if you don't know which one I'm talking about, you don't know me very well, do you?
Hey pal, hop in.
Haha, looks I missed it again. I was actually out of town this past weekend though, so at least I had an excuse this time. :humhumhum:
Doesn't look like I missed too much again, though. Dial M For Monkey always was a real weak link to Dexter for me. The shorts just aren't very funny or entertaining at all. Now, the Justice Friends, on the other hand...
I loved the Justice Friends too. Although I'm kind of glad that they only made one short after the first season (and even that I think was just a left over from S1) and left the characters to just cameos, because I don't think it could have worked on its own or for much longer otherwise. The idea seems to be a little limited by nature, so it's better to enjoy what we got than go crazy with the concept.
Monkey though, blah. He's a cute enough character, and I rather liked the episode where he fought Mandark's duck, but the shorts never did anything for me.
How can you not like Monkey? :wth:
I thought they were okay, I agree. But they were never nearly as good as anything else on the show.
Maybe they're better than I give them credit for, but they were still the weakest shorts Dexter's Lab had to offer. Compared to Dexter himself and the Justice Friends, they just don't hold up as well.
I have to agree that "Dial M for Monkey" always kind of paled in comparison with the Dexter and Justice Friends shorts. I liked Monkey's superhero outfit and his powers were cool, but the stories weren't the funniest. Certainly not on the level of, say, The Powerpuff Girls. Add to that the implied borderline bestiality going on between Monkey and Agent Honeydew was kind of creepy if one delves into it more deeply. :sweat:
Quote from: Goldstar on April 24, 2012, 08:09:07 PM
I have to agree that "Dial M for Monkey" always kind of paled in comparison with the Dexter and Justice Friends shorts. I liked Monkey's superhero outfit and his powers were cool, but the stories weren't the funniest. Certainly not on the level of, say, The Powerpuff Girls. Add to that the implied borderline bestiality going on between Monkey and Agent Honeydew was kind of creepy if one delves into it more deeply. :sweat:
:lol: :D
It's that time of the week again.
The Powerpuff Girls
Ed, Edd, n' Eddy
Camp Lazlo
My Gym Partner's a Monkey
Yep, I actually put another show above EEnE! But hey, it was up against "Bubblevicious", which is pretty tough competition, even if the Eds episode is one of my favs from season 1. The other two though? Fuck 'em.
YES, GYM PARTNER! I'M NOSTALGIAING SO HARD RIGHT NOW :joy: :joy: :joy:
Oh yeah, and apparently they were supposed to air a Foster's episode this week, a full-length one, but the schedule was mixed up or something. It had the same name as the Camp Lazlo one too.
Sounds like another lackluster weak, in all honesty.
...and surprise surprise, I missed it again. Not that it even bothers me once I get a glimpse of the schedule, however (Gym Partner? Seriously?). I bet Twitter was just ablaze with all sorts of Gym Partner nostalgia last night as well. :whuh:
Gym Partner is the shit. :>
It's a cartoon that was made once.
That's about all I can muster for it.
Quote from: Foggle on April 28, 2012, 10:39:02 PM
Gym Partner is the shit. :>
Nah, man: THIS
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsharetv.org%2Fimages%2Fsquirrel_boy-show.jpg&hash=84a4b6f0b3ced7c80d8bd1a2d610c6b6dc930f51)
I just ordered Out Of Jimmy's Head on Laserdisc. Time to complete my collection!
Quote from: Foggle on April 28, 2012, 10:42:26 PM
I just ordered Out Of Jimmy's Head on Laserdisc. Time to complete my collection!
You still need the ultra-rare VHS copy, though.
It can be pretty hard to find nowadays, but I've got connections. For the right price, I can hook you up. :blush:
Squirrel Boy. Unlike Lazlo or Gym Partner, I never see any talk of this one. Does it still get attention?
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 28, 2012, 10:43:59 PM
Squirrel Boy. Unlike Lazlo or Gym Partner, I never see any talk of this one. Does it still get attention?
Unlike the other two, CN
completely buried it. Hasn't been mentioned by the actual network in several years. So no.
...with good reason, of course.
Anyone else remember Squirrelboyfan from TV.com?
Quote from: Foggle on April 28, 2012, 10:48:37 PM
Anyone else remember Squirrelboyfan from TV.com?
Some of his
amazing reviews:
Quoteshow: My Gym Partner's a Monkey - 8.2/10
The Good: Good animation,Good Music,Good Characters,Funny Sometimes The Bad: Disgusting,Beating out The Jetsons
My Gym Partners A Monkey is about a boy named Adam Lion who goes to Charles Darwin Middle School with his buddy Jake.Each episode the school is shown.Principal PixieFrog is a frog he is the principal of the school with his assistant Mrs.Warthog which is a warthog.There can be some jokes like
PixieFrog: What was your name again?
I didn"t: I didn"t
PixieFrog: You Didn"t
I didn"t: No,I didn"t My name is I didn"t PixieFrog: Hmmm..I will just call ya Larry
Quoteshow: Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends - 10/10
Why do some haters want this cancelled?It rocks out loud like Camp Lazlo!
A shy 8-year-old boy named Mac.Toke Bloo to "Fosters Home For Imaginary Friends"."Cheese"Bloo hates!Bloo thinks cheese is annoying(I don"t).Goo is a girl who uses her imagination alot seen in "Go Goo Go".Duchess is a gruse girl even if she takes a shower.Terrance is macs brother and bulley.Terrence used a friend to smash Bloo Red as seen in "Seeing Red"Frankie is the assistant at Fosters with her Grandma Mademe Foster.Mr.Herriemen.Bloo hates him.Frankie can"t take his rules.So,Come on over to "Fosters Home For Imaginary Friends"where great memories aren"t forgotten
Quoteshow: Camp Lazlo - 10/10
Camp Lazlo rocks!!!
"Camp Lazlo"Tells a tale about campers at Camp Kidney.The main ones are the jelly beans "Lazlo",Raj,And Clam!Someone who hates Lazlo is Edward.Who are brothers Chip and Skip and another group of brothers Dave and Ping-Pong.And who hates Dirt is Samson.The staff of Camp are Scoutmaster Lumpus with his helper Slinkman.Camp Kidney chief.Mr.McMuesli(Don"t know if spelled right)And a nurse Nurse Wesley.And squirrel scouts of Acorn Flats.Nina,Patsy and Grectien(Don"t know if spelled right)The Squirrels camp staff are Jane Doe and Mr Mucuess(Don"t know if spelled right)
Quoteshow: Squirrel Boy - 10/10
I Like This Show!
This Show Is About A 10-YearOld Boy Named "Andy" And His Best Buddy Squirrel"Rodney".Each Episode Is An Adventure.
Rodney Has A Chum Buddy "Leon"He Lives In A Tree Behind The Johnson,s House.Rodney Is In Love With A Cute Little Squirrel."Darlene".Andy Has A Bully Named "Kyle".With His Buddy"Salty Mike".And Andy Has A Human Friend Named "Oscar"He Has To Be Safe Alot.
Quoteshow: Squirrel Boy
episode: What's Sung is Sung / Wall of the Wild - 9.8/10
Nice
I Could,nt Stop Watching This
I Love This Episode Beacause It Is A Cool
Episode I Love! Both Are Cool! You Got
Watch I Watched It! 8 Times I Think
BEST EPISODE EVER!
So Remember To Watch Squirrel Boy Sun-Thurs At 9:30 Sunday May Change 9pm Weekdays
And You Get Your Big Hourse From
Lord Of The Sings
He was also a fan of Out Of Jimmy's Head, iirc.
God, I feel like such a schmuck anymore for actually liking Foster's.
It seems like the only other people that like it also like CN's other garbage from that era. What does that say about me? :shit:
Quote from: Kiddington on April 28, 2012, 10:56:01 PM
God, I feel like such a schmuck anymore for actually liking Foster's.
It seems like the only other people that like it also like CN's other garbage from that era. What does that say about me? :shit:
We all love Squirrel Boy and Gym Partner here. You aren't alone. :swoon:
(https://animationrevelation.com/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fupload.wikimedia.org%2Fwikipedia%2Fen%2Fthumb%2Fe%2Fea%2FPuffy_AmiYumi_-_Hi_Hi_Puffy_AmiYumi.jpg%2F220px-Puffy_AmiYumi_-_Hi_Hi_Puffy_AmiYumi.jpg&hash=7553cd7e3fb546279295f99c8e16e1ef98b03091)
You guys are forgetting about a
real classic. :sly:
Quote from: Foggle on April 28, 2012, 10:54:13 PM
Quote from: Foggle on April 28, 2012, 10:48:37 PM
Anyone else remember Squirrelboyfan from TV.com?
Some of his amazing reviews:
Quoteshow: My Gym Partner's a Monkey - 8.2/10
The Good: Good animation,Good Music,Good Characters,Funny Sometimes The Bad: Disgusting,Beating out The Jetsons
My Gym Partners A Monkey is about a boy named Adam Lion who goes to Charles Darwin Middle School with his buddy Jake.Each episode the school is shown.Principal PixieFrog is a frog he is the principal of the school with his assistant Mrs.Warthog which is a warthog.There can be some jokes like
PixieFrog: What was your name again?
I didn"t: I didn"t
PixieFrog: You Didn"t
I didn"t: No,I didn"t My name is I didn"t PixieFrog: Hmmm..I will just call ya Larry
Quoteshow: Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends - 10/10
Why do some haters want this cancelled?It rocks out loud like Camp Lazlo!
A shy 8-year-old boy named Mac.Toke Bloo to "Fosters Home For Imaginary Friends"."Cheese"Bloo hates!Bloo thinks cheese is annoying(I don"t).Goo is a girl who uses her imagination alot seen in "Go Goo Go".Duchess is a gruse girl even if she takes a shower.Terrance is macs brother and bulley.Terrence used a friend to smash Bloo Red as seen in "Seeing Red"Frankie is the assistant at Fosters with her Grandma Mademe Foster.Mr.Herriemen.Bloo hates him.Frankie can"t take his rules.So,Come on over to "Fosters Home For Imaginary Friends"where great memories aren"t forgotten
Quoteshow: Camp Lazlo - 10/10
Camp Lazlo rocks!!!
"Camp Lazlo"Tells a tale about campers at Camp Kidney.The main ones are the jelly beans "Lazlo",Raj,And Clam!Someone who hates Lazlo is Edward.Who are brothers Chip and Skip and another group of brothers Dave and Ping-Pong.And who hates Dirt is Samson.The staff of Camp are Scoutmaster Lumpus with his helper Slinkman.Camp Kidney chief.Mr.McMuesli(Don"t know if spelled right)And a nurse Nurse Wesley.And squirrel scouts of Acorn Flats.Nina,Patsy and Grectien(Don"t know if spelled right)The Squirrels camp staff are Jane Doe and Mr Mucuess(Don"t know if spelled right)
Quoteshow: Squirrel Boy - 10/10
I Like This Show!
This Show Is About A 10-YearOld Boy Named "Andy" And His Best Buddy Squirrel"Rodney".Each Episode Is An Adventure.
Rodney Has A Chum Buddy "Leon"He Lives In A Tree Behind The Johnson,s House.Rodney Is In Love With A Cute Little Squirrel."Darlene".Andy Has A Bully Named "Kyle".With His Buddy"Salty Mike".And Andy Has A Human Friend Named "Oscar"He Has To Be Safe Alot.
Quoteshow: Squirrel Boy
episode: What's Sung is Sung / Wall of the Wild - 9.8/10
Nice
I Could,nt Stop Watching This
I Love This Episode Beacause It Is A Cool
Episode I Love! Both Are Cool! You Got
Watch I Watched It! 8 Times I Think
BEST EPISODE EVER!
So Remember To Watch Squirrel Boy Sun-Thurs At 9:30 Sunday May Change 9pm Weekdays
And You Get Your Big Hourse From
Lord Of The Sings
He was also a fan of Out Of Jimmy's Head, iirc.
This man sounds like something out of legend.
Quote from: Foggle on April 28, 2012, 10:57:20 PM
Quote from: Kiddington on April 28, 2012, 10:56:01 PM
God, I feel like such a schmuck anymore for actually liking Foster's.
It seems like the only other people that like it also like CN's other garbage from that era. What does that say about me? :shit:
We all love Squirrel Boy and Gym Partner here. You aren't alone. :swoon:
Oh,
riiiiiiiiiight. :happytime:
Quote from: Rynnec on April 28, 2012, 10:57:35 PM
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You guys are forgetting about a real classic. :sly:
NO! I HAD FORGOTTEN
Long live the forgettable era. Home to such classics as... I don't remember.
Quote from: Rynnec on April 28, 2012, 10:57:35 PM
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You guys are forgetting about a real classic. :sly:
:swoon:
HEY GUYS IT'S ON DVD IF YOU WANNA BUY IT (http://www.amazon.com/Hi-Puffy-AmiYumi-Rock-Forever/dp/B000AOEPLQ)
I OWN THEM ALL :swoon:
I actually kind of liked Puffy's music. The show? Not at all.
And wasn't squirrelboyfan the guy who would talk about how Al Kahn and CatDog were destroying he world and we need more shows like Kappa Mikey or something?
Puffy had a pretty cool song in that Mad Mod episode of Teen Titans.But as a show it just.. eh, didn't really work.
Quote from: Avaitor on April 28, 2012, 11:18:12 PM
I actually kind of liked Puffy's music. The show? Not at all.
And wasn't squirrelboyfan the guy who would talk about how Al Kahn and CatDog were destroying he world and we need more shows like Kappa Mikey or something?
:wth:
I'm surprised he doesn't like CatDog, though. It's just about as bad as everything else he likes.
I think so, Avaitor.
Man, Kappa Mikey was some of the worst shit.
Outside of some femmeslash material, PuffyAmiYumi is pretty forgettable as far CC's go.
Quote from: Foggle on April 28, 2012, 11:22:27 PM
I think so, Avaitor.
Man, Kappa Mikey was some of the worst shit.
But it did have a catchy song.
Sean Schemmel actually had a voice-over role in Kappa Mikey.
...and yes, he still sounds like Goku.
He was the best character on that show. Everyone else was annoying as fuck... except Ozu. That is saying something about me that I don't know anymore.
Kappa Mikey is why you never hear about Matt Wilson anymore.
Poor Matt Wilson.
What about Matt Wilson? I always wondered what happened to him.
I forget my Matt Wilson history, was this the show he ended up working on and is the reason why he makes cartoons on YouTube now?
Quote from: Avaitor on April 28, 2012, 11:29:04 PM
Kappa Mikey is why you never hear about Matt Wilson anymore.
??? I don't see any mention of him on KM's wikipedia page.
Quote from: Foggle on April 28, 2012, 11:31:14 PM
Quote from: Avaitor on April 28, 2012, 11:29:04 PM
Kappa Mikey is why you never hear about Matt Wilson anymore.
??? I don't see any mention of him on KM's wikipedia page.
His IMDB page says otherwise.
He also worked on that Speed Racer reboot that the same company who made Kappa Mikey also created. So yeah.
Quote from: Kiddington on April 28, 2012, 11:33:31 PM
He also worked on that Speed Racer reboot that the same company who made Kappa Mikey also created. So yeah.
Never heard about this. I assume it was shit?
There was a Matt Wilson who wasn't hired to work on the show because they saw Matt Wilson's commentary on TZ. It was just a poor sap who happened to have the same name.
It pretty much lead to him fleeing from TZ in order to not attract attention to himself any longer.
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 28, 2012, 11:35:35 PM
There was a Matt Wilson who wasn't hired to work on the show because they saw Matt Wilson's commentary on TZ. It was just a poor sap who happened to have the same name.
It pretty much lead to him fleeing from TZ in order to not attract attention to himself any longer.
That Matt Wilson tried to apply to work for Krypto the Superdog but got turned down. Our Matt Wilson did get to work on Kappa Mikey a little.
Quote from: Foggle on April 28, 2012, 11:35:17 PM
Quote from: Kiddington on April 28, 2012, 11:33:31 PM
He also worked on that Speed Racer reboot that the same company who made Kappa Mikey also created. So yeah.
Never heard about this. I assume it was shit?
Yes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GzamdS4pLQ&feature=related).
Quote from: Avaitor on April 28, 2012, 11:36:47 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 28, 2012, 11:35:35 PM
There was a Matt Wilson who wasn't hired to work on the show because they saw Matt Wilson's commentary on TZ. It was just a poor sap who happened to have the same name.
It pretty much lead to him fleeing from TZ in order to not attract attention to himself any longer.
That Matt Wilson tried to apply to work for Krypto the Superdog but got turned down. Our Matt Wilson did get to work on Kappa Mikey a little.
Poor guy.
Quote from: Kiddington on April 28, 2012, 11:37:41 PM
Quote from: Foggle on April 28, 2012, 11:35:17 PM
Quote from: Kiddington on April 28, 2012, 11:33:31 PM
He also worked on that Speed Racer reboot that the same company who made Kappa Mikey also created. So yeah.
Never heard about this. I assume it was shit?
Yes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GzamdS4pLQ&feature=related).
*3 minutes in*
FFFFFFFuck no.
Quote43 likes, 2 dislikes
Mother of god.
Quote from: Foggle on April 28, 2012, 11:41:25 PM
Quote from: Kiddington on April 28, 2012, 11:37:41 PM
Quote from: Foggle on April 28, 2012, 11:35:17 PM
Quote from: Kiddington on April 28, 2012, 11:33:31 PM
He also worked on that Speed Racer reboot that the same company who made Kappa Mikey also created. So yeah.
Never heard about this. I assume it was shit?
Yes (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GzamdS4pLQ&feature=related).
*3 minutes in*
FFFFFFFuck no.
Quote43 likes, 2 dislikes
Mother of god.
After reading the comments, I'm convinced that fourstarball4 found a way to like it 43 times.
It would explain everything.
Another week, another Cartoon Planet
Courage
Chowder
Flapjack
Foster's
So-so set. The Bendy episode of Foster's was on, blah. I also wasn't crazy on the Flapjack, even though June Foray was in it. I loved the Courage ep though, the Louvre one.
Quote from: Brak's Dad on May 04, 2012, 07:56:25 PM
Chowder
Flapjack
Foster's
:whuh:
At least it wasn't Gym Partner again.
I don't hate any of those myself, although I'm not as big on Foster's as I used to be. But yeah, better these than Gym Partner or Lazlo.
Also, holy shit, this is amazing. (http://vimeo.com/41576786)
Practically every show that matters is in here. Well, except for any of the DCAU series, Billy & Mandy, Courage, and Samurai Jack. Oh, and the good Clone Wars.
Woah, that's pretty cool. I've noticed CN has been airing these cool little bumpers that mix several cartoons together(one has the the different toon cars throughout the years, and ends with the Regular Show golf cart crashing into the Flintstone-mobile).
One thing I noticed though is even in this promo CN couldn't spring for remastered LT prints, scenes from cartoons like Hair Raising Hare and The Great Piggy Bank Robbery were pretty faded. This may have been intentional, they are kinda famous for being shown like that on TV, but it still stood out.
Yeah, I think they still air the old AAP prints for the LT shorts Turner still owns. It's about time they changed that.
And we posted those bumpers on here earlier. It's cool to see CN do something to commemorate their anniversary. Nick didn't do anything for their 30th, so here's hoping that CN will still be around to do stuff like this for theirs.
This was probably one of the best things ever made. One great montage of CN's past shows and current. That and I thought the music they used was well blended.
I have seen the other bumps that have appear as well. Most of the time I see the one with Daffy and Mordecai playing video games. My favorite one is the one with Tom, Gumball and Top Cat. Just some of my favorite cartoon cats.
I think Netflix needs to make a better deal with Warner Bros. Distribution or something, because I would just love to watch some Flintstones or Jetsons or PPG or Cow and Chicken on the service. They've done a good job at putting all the old Nicktoons on it, now Cartoon Network needs some love.
It is kind of weird, though, thet they overdubbed some of the characters in that video. Fred's voice is kind of obnoxious, but the real headscratcher is why they couldn't get Jeff Bennet to voice Johnny in it.
I was celebrating Mother's Day a couple of days early when Cartoon Planet aired, since my mom works late today and my sister was in town, so I'm just watching my recording now. Here's my ranking.
Johnny Bravo
Dexter's Lab
I Am Weasel
Billy & Mandy
Kids Next Door
The Dexter and Johnny episodes were about equal though. And the obvious lowlight was KND. I forgot how racist Numbah 3's voice kinda maybe sorta is.
I keep forgetting about this until I see one of your posts. My bad memory is quite annoying.
Yeah, it does seem like I'm the only one catching up. But you aren't really missing much, I guess. They're already repeating the Brak and Zorak sketches.
Doesn't EK like KND? :sly:
Yeah, I missed it again, although I hardly regret it whenever I see the lineup. This week I kinda do, though; I've always had a soft spot for I Am Weasel.
I've been watching Cartoon Planet every week (so far). Primarily because there's pretty much nothing better on at that time. Seeing these 90s era Cartoon-Cartoons is OK, but honestly, I think that CP would be a bigger deal for me if I didn't have Boomerang where I can watch Dexter's Lab, Cow & Chicken and The Powerpuff Girls pretty much every night. It is an experience seeing Foster's shorts again for the 1st time in years, though.
The Brak and Zorak wraparounds are OK also, but I admit that I miss Space Ghost. The whole thing just seems incomplete with just SG's arch "frenemies" and not SG himself. The thing is, the only reason why Space Ghost wasn't included is because SG would have required too many lip movements to animate.
I thought the real reason was that George Lowe was retired in Florida. Could be both, really.
I dunno, I don't mind Zorak and Brak being by themselves, since I loved The Brak Show, but the wraparound segments do feel kind of empty. I think it's the writing more than anything, since more often than not, they just aren't funny, and wouldn't be, even with Space Ghost.
Quote from: Brak's Dad on May 13, 2012, 06:40:33 PM
I thought the real reason was that George Lowe was retired in Florida. Could be both, really.
Yeah, I read that also, but I wasn't sure if it was true or just a rumor. Perhaps it is a combination of the two.
So according to Twitter, Toonami is back on May 26. Here's a new change of pants.
:swoon: :swoon: :swoon: :swoon: :swoon: :swoon: :swoon: :swoon: :swoon:
Quote from: Lord Dalek on May 16, 2012, 04:30:11 PM
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:swoon: :swoon: :swoon: :swoon: :swoon: :swoon: :swoon: :swoon: :swoon:
Quote from: Foggle on May 16, 2012, 04:31:48 PM
Quote from: Lord Dalek on May 16, 2012, 04:30:11 PM
:swoon: :swoon: :swoon: :swoon: :swoon: :swoon: :swoon: :swoon: :swoon:
:swoon: :swoon: :swoon: :swoon: :swoon: :swoon: :swoon: :swoon: :swoon:
:thinkin: :thinkin: :thinkin: :thinkin: :thinkin: :thinkin: :thinkin: :thinkin:... :blush:
Wulin Warriors, DICE, Dragonball GT, and Hamtaro line up? Not interested.
Well I'll be.
:happytime: :happytime: :happytime: :happytime: :happytime: :happytime: :happytime: :happytime: :happytime: :happytime:
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 16, 2012, 04:39:18 PM
Wulin Warriors, DICE, Dragonball GT, and Hamtaro line up? Not interested.
STOP BRINGING ME DOWN BRO
Quote from: Kiddington on May 16, 2012, 04:49:23 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 16, 2012, 04:39:18 PM
Wulin Warriors, DICE, Dragonball GT, and Hamtaro line up? Not interested.
STOP BRINGING ME DOWN BRO
Yeah, get with the times, Desen. Everyone knows the schedule will be Guilty Crown, Yosuga No Sora, Nisemonogatari, and Infinite Stratos.
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on May 16, 2012, 04:55:23 PM
Quote from: Kiddington on May 16, 2012, 04:49:23 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 16, 2012, 04:39:18 PM
Wulin Warriors, DICE, Dragonball GT, and Hamtaro line up? Not interested.
STOP BRINGING ME DOWN BRO
Yeah, get with the times, Desen. Everyone knows the schedule will be Guilty Crown, Yosuga No Sora, Nisemonogatari, and Infinite Stratos.
Well if that's the way you're going to be, why not just go all in and throw Boku No Pico into the mix as well?
Can't hurt, right? :awesome:
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 16, 2012, 04:39:18 PM
Wulin Warriors, DICE, Dragonball GT, and Hamtaro line up? Not interested.
Your loss buddy. BADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADABADAENOUGH.
Quote from: Kiddington on May 16, 2012, 04:56:41 PM
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on May 16, 2012, 04:55:23 PM
Quote from: Kiddington on May 16, 2012, 04:49:23 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 16, 2012, 04:39:18 PM
Wulin Warriors, DICE, Dragonball GT, and Hamtaro line up? Not interested.
STOP BRINGING ME DOWN BRO
Yeah, get with the times, Desen. Everyone knows the schedule will be Guilty Crown, Yosuga No Sora, Nisemonogatari, and Infinite Stratos.
Well if that's the way you're going to be, why not just go all in and throw Boku No Pico into the mix as well?
Can't hurt, right? :awesome:
Looks like Kim finally has a place to air Elfen Lied. :sly:
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on May 16, 2012, 04:39:18 PM
Wulin Warriors, DICE, Dragonball GT, and Hamtaro line up? Not interested.
This is a joke... right?
I still think they're just going to sprinkle new TOM footage in episodes of Bleach and FMA and Bebop repeats.
Quote from: Brak's Dad on May 16, 2012, 06:26:18 PM
I still think they're just going to sprinkle new TOM footage in episodes of Bleach and FMA and Bebop repeats.
Don't forget about the three blank spots on the schedule though. At the very least we'll be getting two classic's and one new anime.
Obviously it's the new Superman: The Brave & The Bold.
Nah, it's K-On, obviously. :>
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on May 16, 2012, 04:11:35 PM
So according to Twitter, Toonami is back on May 26. Here's a new change of pants.
So Toonami is back for real. Well, shut my mouth.
Even so, I really hope that there will be some new programming on the Adult Swim Toonami block, because if it's just going to be the same Saturday night AS anime programs but with Toonami wraparounds then I really don't see the point of doing it. The block is (or at least should be) about the shows. The wraparounds are the toppings, not the pizza.
Similarly, even if some "oldies-but-goodies" such as DBZ or
The Big O are brought back, there should be some never before seen on AS programs on the block as well. An AS Toonami block made up of nothing but old shows wouldn't last very long.
As for which version of TOM will be used, I read that it's confirmed to be TOM 3, only in hi-def. But really, any version of TOM would be OK with me, as long as it's not TOM 4, which was easily my least favorite TOM design. I didn't like that TOM had a face. He just seems cooler without one.
QuoteObviously it's the new Superman: The Brave & The Bold.
I know that you typed that as a joke, but a
DC Comics Presents animated series would be sweeeet. :thumbup:
I would love for DC or Marvel to make a series full of one-offs or short story arc dedicated to their lesser heroes, and not just team them up with bigger names like Batman and Spider-Man, so they can get time of their own to breath and introduce themselves to a mainstream audience. I guess a Showcase would be the correct term.
I don't think a Blue Beetle or Power Man & Iron Fist would sell on their own; in a show like this, they just might work.
This weeks Cartoon Planet set:
Courage the Cowardly Dog - Return of the Chicken from Outer Space
Camp Lazlo - Don't care
Powerpuff Girls - Boogie Frights
Ed Edd'n Eddy - A Glass of Warm Ed
Here's this week's rankings.
EEnE
PPG
Courage
Camp Lazlo
Season 1 Powerpuff>Season 1 Ed's, but I still went with the Ed boys this week. There's nothing like seeing Ed float up around the Cul-De-Sac with a pair of panties in his mouth.
HEY GUYS GUESS WHAT I FINALLY CAUGHT IT THIS WEEK :light:
EEnE, PPG, and Courage were all great. And par for the course, Lazlo was awful. Was there ever a period when this show was even remotely watchable?
Now as far as the bumps are concerned... eh. I dunno. It's nice to see these characters back on TV again, but I've got to be honest, none of these little shorts really made me laugh much at all. I love Zorak, but he just isn't the same without Space Ghost (or lacing drunken profanity :awesome:). I appreciate the effort, but I didn't like these segments as much as I thought I would.
I'll give it another few tries before I reach a verdict on these, though. Again, I like the characters, but something just felt... off. We'll see what I think of them next week.
Pretty solid set this week. I liked everything, and here's my rankings.
Flapjack- Jeff Bennett does a GREAT James Mason impression. There isn't much to the Captain Nemo-like character, but I got a kick out of this episode.
Johnny Bravo- Probably a little higher than it should be, since this is a retread of the Adam West episode. But it's hard to knock an episode with Mr. T AND Richard Simmons playing themselves. Campy goodness.
Billy & Mandy- Damn, I haven't seen the pilot in years. It's... kinda dark, although I guess not for B&M's standards. I think I enjoy it even more now that I've seen the Seventh Seal.
Dial M for Monkey- I'm still not a fan of Monkey, but I like this one, if only cause I got to see the full cast of Justice Friends again, and realize that literally all of them are parodies of Avengers members. Plus, the idea of Monkey coming out from under Rassler's massive attacks reminds me of a classic Daredevil story (#7, to be exact, which would've made my top 50, if not 30) when DD survives all of Namor's bashings when he decides to take his frustration with humanity out on NY. So yeah, fun stuff.
Cow & Chicken- This continues the Chicken being a giant asshole to Cow trend that I hate in the show, which is why it's last. But even it has some funny moments.
Dexter's Lab
Courage
I M Weasel
Evil Con Carne
Kids Next Door
All season 1 stuff tonight. Well, I thought that the Dexter and Courage eps are classics (the first appearance of Mandark and the one with Bigfoot), the Weasel and Con Carne ones were fun, if nothing spectacular, and KND was irritating. This is exactly how I'd rank the 5 shows, and how I'd consider them myself.
Also, is it just me, or did Dexter have a weird obsession with showing his ass a lot back in the day?
There was a lot of butts in kids' cartoons back in the day, hell that was one of I R Baboon's main traits. I don't think it flies as much in this day and age though, even The Simpsons isn't allowed to show Homer's butt anymore. Thanks a lot Janet Jackson.
I can't recall the last time that there was an on screen mooning in animation that showed the ass. Or at least in Western Animation, haven't been keeping tabs elsewhere. I think even the Total Drama series censored the asses with that mosaic, but I just write that off as what most reality shows do when someone is naked on screen.
EDIT: The only examples I can think of right now are Family Guy, South Park, and maybe most of the Adult Swim line-up.
Yeah, even Archer doesn't do ass shots to my memory. This is a pretty weird subject to talk about though.
But I will say that one double standard I don't get is why is it such a "naughty" thing to show a woman in her underwear while it's perfectly fine to show men in theirs. Uh, unless the chick is wearing a thong, guys have a lot less to the imagination hanging out in his draws. And even then, you'd think it would be better to show an ass cheek than junk lines.
Quote from: Brak's Dad on May 17, 2012, 11:37:12 AM
I would love for DC or Marvel to make a series full of one-offs or short story arc dedicated to their lesser heroes, and not just team them up with bigger names like Batman and Spider-Man, so they can get time of their own to breath and introduce themselves to a mainstream audience. I guess a Showcase would be the correct term.
I don't think a Blue Beetle or Power Man & Iron Fist would sell on their own; in a show like this, they just might work.
Oh jeez. I'd kill for Iron Fist. Putting a whole bunch of shorts together and then waiting for fan demand to upgrade them to full fledged series would be great. We need a Silver Surfer and other cosmic hero shows.
It would be nice if Cartoon Network would air Sheep in the Big City on Cartoon Planet, although I know that would be a problem, what with each Sheep episode being a full half hour and CP itself being only 1 hour; a 22 minute episode would be half the show. CP should only run 22 minute episodes if the network were to expand the block to 90 minutes or 2 hours. The problem with that is the fact that Adult Swim starts at 9PM (EST), so CP would have to start earlier in the evening if the block were to be expanded.
I was going to suggest Megas XLR as well, but Megas, while funny, is probably considered too "action-y" to be a good fot for Cartoon Planet.
There's no reason for [as] to occupy the 9 PM spot, in all honesty. Especially on Fridays. They can always start a half or full hour later and extend Cartoon Planet a little.
Quote from: Brak's Dad on June 03, 2012, 11:25:06 AM
There's no reason for [as] to occupy the 9 PM spot, in all honesty. Especially on Fridays. They can always start a half or full hour later and extend Cartoon Planet a little.
Precisely. Nickelodeon has Nick at Nite begin later on weekends, why can't Cartoon Network do the same with Adult Swim? CN can skip the FOX animated sitcoms for 1 or 2 nights. Honestly, I'd like to see AS go back to airing only 2 nights a week, but I know that won't happen. I'd settle for AS starting later, say at 10pm, 11pm or midnight on Fridays and Saturdays.
On a semi-related note, would it kill Turner to run
Megas XLR on Boomerang? Even just for a month? Boom is currently airing a double dose of
The Powerpuff Girls at 10PM (EST), why not give 1 of those slots to
Mgeas XLR? I realize that
Megas only has 26 episodes, but there are only 23 episodes of
Swat Kats (the last of which wasn't even a "real" episode-it was a clip show with no original animation) and that ran on Boom for a long time.
Megas, Sheep in the Big City, Time Squad, Robot Jones, etc., were all produced by CN Studios and so Turner owns them all outright. It wouldn't cost Turner a dime to air them, yet none of these shows have ever aired on Boomerang. Not even briefly. Boom is on 24/7, there are enough hours in the day to run a few of the shows that they own on their rerun channel.
Another week, another set.
Eds
PPG
Camp Lazlo
Gym Partner
I don't get why the block will only show the first 2 seasons of EEmE. It's not fair to people like me who have both DVDs and think the later seasons are so much better, but this one is a classic, the Canadian squirt gun one. And this Lazlo happens to be the only one I kinda like, the one with the leech, if only for the ending.
In regards to EEnE, I'm starting to wonder that myself (yes, I actually did catch it this week; the entire hour, as a matter of fact).
As much as I like the first two seasons, I really have no interest in watching them on TV at this point, given that I already own the DVD sets. My goal now is to save up as many Season 3+ episodes that I can on my DVR, since it doesn't look like we'll ever be getting the rest of this on DVD. What they're doing now, just airing the early stuff that I already have and nothing else, isn't doing it for me.
Pretty mediocre week, otherwise. Why is it every time I watch I get stuck with Lazlo? And then they even threw Gym Partner in on top of that. Talk about overkill. :srs:
it's always stuck in a cycle You'll get a week of 3 7-minute shorts and 2 11-minute ones, usually containing Dexter or one of its segments, JB, C&C/Weasel, Grim or Evil (another problem I have like I do with their Ed airings- they only stick to season 1 of B&M. Which really sucks since the first is by far the weakest) and Flapjack, then a week of all 11-minute shorts usually consisting fo PPG, EEnE, Courage, Lazlo or Chowder. Then do the same thing each other week. It gets tiresome.
Especially since they're already repeating Brak and Zorak segments. It's getting to the point where I actually skip them now.
Yeah, the more I watch them, the more I've concluded that the Brak and Zorak segments really aren't that good.
There's something missing here, and I can't quite place it. I don't know if it lacks the comic fodder of Space Ghost that badly or what, but this just isn't what I was expecting.
They just seem rushed and unpolished. I really don't think it's the lack of Space Ghost, but just that they were made to quickly and are too brief and ultimately pointless.
It's missing Moltar!
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on June 08, 2012, 10:21:42 PM
It's missing Moltar!
He would help. :awesome:
...speaking of which, have you watched the new Cartoon Planet yet, Spark? What do you think of it?
I keep forgetting it's on. :sweat:
Moltar wasn't in Cartoon Planet, though. :bleh:
But Brak was barely in C2C to begin with, but a lot of people still associate him with it, so whatever.
I haven't watched one of these in full since the first one(I saw part of one the other week),because I'm always doing something else. Movies come out on Fridays, so I go to those with friends, or sometimes we are just hanging out downtown(such as last night).
I usually have nothing better to do, so I watch the full hour. If not, my DVR records them and I watch later. I'll stop when they start reairing cartoons.
Another week, another show.
Courage
Flapjack
Foster's
Chowder
Pretty weak set, Courage aside, which is a classic. "That is the worst case of chicken pox I have ever seen!".
My week's picks:
Johnny Bravo
Dexter
Billy & Mandy
Weasel
KND
Pretty good one. They even picked a later B&M ep this time.
I tried watching this week's, but after a couple of minutes of Camp Lazlo, I got so bored that I quit.
Yes, I hate Lazlo more than Gym Partner.
Here were the shows that aired:
Camp Lazlo - Don't care
PPG - Ice Sore
Courage - Dr Le Quack: Amnesia Specialist
EEnE - Who? What? Where? Ed?
Season 1 Eds again. Typical.
So DirectTV dropped all Viacom channels because the big V wanted a 30% increase to keep them on, and DirectTV wouldn't comply. If you turn to Nick, you'll get this sign.
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Look at what they present when they say to turn to CN. Pretty cool, huh?
On a side note, I find humor in Naruto Pre-Timeskip being in Disney XD slot. :P
Though interesting choices for both CN and Boomerang, despite the fact that SJ reruns are on Boomerang. Let me also say that to the bottom, that is one weird typo right there.
Is that your pic? Because if it isn't I don't think that's accurate, none of those networks are on the right channels. Disney is on 290 and 291(east and west feeds) ABC Family is on 311 or some shit, and Cartoon Network isn't on 605(all that's way up there is sports shit), it is on 296. Unless they changed the channel lineup, but I don't see why they would've since it's been more or less the same for at least ten years now.
Anyway, I don't have DTV so it doesn't affect me, but my parents/brother/grandparents still do. I don't know if my parents will miss the Viacom channels, my bro will probably miss MTV and Spike and maybe Nick(he might be too old for that channel), but my grandparents are avid Stewart/Colbert followers, and while I think I read somewhere that they are on reruns right now, they'll flip if they aren't and they can't watch new episodes because of this.
I took it from tz. I don't have DirectTV, so I wouldn't know.
Although I wouldn't think that they have the same channel numbers all over the country. Don't they change from county to county?
No, because it's not like cable, which are usually locally run and programmed(although owned by national companies). DTV is a national service, the channels are the same no matter where you go(except for the local channels, like NBC and CBS and shit, those are different depending on what area you live in).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_DirecTV_channels_(United_States)
Also, if they were really running SJ on CN on DTV, you would've been able to see it on your cable provider as well. DTV doesn't have it's own special CN, it's the same thing as everyone else gets, even though they do have both feeds on the service.
I see.
Well, Jack was probably the first CN show DTV could find a pic of to use, which is why they went with it. I thought it was interesting regardless.
Usually those mix channels show live video of what's actually airing on the network. Also, it's kind of funny that Disney East is highlighted on the pic, yet at the bottom it shows Cartoon, as if that one is highlighted.
And after looking at that Wiki article I like how they don't classify MTV, MTV2, BET, or VH1 as music channels anymore, they are just general entertainment channels now.
Well none of them really are music channels anymore. They only air videos late at night or occasionally in the morning. That's about right.
So I guess I'm pretty much the only one here that this actually effects. :awesome:
Eh, whatevs. Honestly, of all the Viacom owned channels, Comedy Central is probably the only one I still watch with some regularity, and even then, I'm not going to wither away if I go a week or so without Colbert. As far as Nick goes... eh. Nick standard sucks, Nick at Nite sucks, I have no reason to watch Nicktoons now that DBZ Kai is over and done with, and Teen Nick/90's Are All That is on stale loop that does nothing for me anymore, unless I'm just randomly in the mood for Rugrats or something. So again, whatevs.
They'll probably have this all ironed out in a week or so anyway (I can't imagine this'll drag on that long; too many channels at stake here), so yeah.
Yeah, the only thing I'd miss is VH1 Classic if I lost it, and even then, mostly for That Metal Show, which is on hiatus now.
QuoteSo I guess I'm pretty much the only one here that this actually effects.
Not so. I have DirecTV also.
I personally don't give a crap about MTV, VH-1, TV Land, BET or Spike, and I'm not presently watching anything on Nickelodeon. The only Viacom channel that I watch regularly these days is Comedy Central, and I only watch CC for
The Daily Show,
The Colbert Report, Futurama and
Tosh.O, and I can watch them online. However, it seems that today, Viacom has since removed all of the free full episodes of its shows from the sites.
I'm not sweating TDS and
Colbert right now, since both shows are off this week, and I don't see this lasting for more than a week or so.
Big V is really playing dirty here. If DirecTV gives in to Viacom's 30% price increase, DirecTV will raise the rates for it's customers, and they won't be happy about that. But if DirecTV stands it's ground, then it's customers will start to leave them for FiOS, Comcast, Dish Network and other companies who are still carrying the Viacom channels. DirecTV is in a no-win situation. The Viacom channels will return to DirecTV, but unless Viacom gives up on its mad quest for higher prices, I don't see any way where this will end happily.
Quote from: Goldstar on July 11, 2012, 09:34:53 PM
and I can watch them online. However, it seems that today, Viacom has since removed all of the free full episodes of its shows from the sites.
Yeah, this is a pretty bad tactic. It's almost like Viacom is encouraging people to take a visit to the ol' Bay of Pirates to watch their shows, especially since it not only affects DTV customers, it affects any and everybody, even people that live in other countries are complaining because they now can't watch the shows online.
South Park Studios is still up though, although I've read it's more controlled by Matt and Trey than Viacom, but could you imagine if they did take the site down because of this? People would riot in the streets.
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This was done outside of Comic Con. Really cool.
They covered a lot of shows here. I can spot reps from Camp Lazlo, IM Weasel, PPG, Johnny Bravo, Generator Rex, Regular Show, Secret Saturdays, Chowder, Ben 10, Flintstones, Looney Tunes, Scooby Doo, Megas XLR, and so many others.
Yeah. They even have Robot Jones and Mitch from PPG in there.
Craig Crumpton from tz has an animation media collectors group, and in it, he posted something about how Target is selling exclusive 20th anniversary CN DVDs. I saw Flintstones, Adventure Time, Regular Show and the Smurfs there. This place is that next to a Target so I might check it out later.
Edit: meh, these are just rereleases of older DVDs with new packaging, most of them single discs. The Flintstones one does have the first season though, so if you want that, I'd recommend it.
Oh, forgot to mention that I actually saw this on Friday... But I can't really remember all the shows. There was a good episode of EE&E, the Powerpuff Girls and... one more that I can't remember... and they were all very enjoyable.
Too bad they ended it with Gym Partner. The show is still awful.
Gym Partner is probably the worst Cartoon Cartoon. Ever. And I can think of a few more Cartoon Cartoons I didn't care for.
But, really, Gym Partner was just trash with no redeeming qualities what-so-ever.
Worse than Squirrel Boy? Problem Solverz? ANNOYING ORANGE?!?!
I'll admit, Gym Partner is pretty bad, but it has some awfully steep competition here for flat-out worst.
Don't forget that shaved animal shit. heh
Okay, I forgot about Squirrel Boy. And I guess I wasn't thinking of Problem Solverz and Annoying Orange as "Cartoon Cartoons" since, at the point, they dropped the label.
But, yeah, all of them are worthy contenders for "worst Cartoon Network orignal". Whoever wins, we lose.
Quote from: Eddy on August 14, 2012, 01:24:32 AM
Okay, I forgot about Squirrel Boy. And I guess I wasn't thinking of Problem Solverz and Annoying Orange as "Cartoon Cartoons" since, at the point, they dropped the label.
But, yeah, all of them are worthy contenders for "worst Cartoon Network orignal". Whoever wins, we lose.
I thought they dropped the actual "Cartoon Cartoon" label way back around 2003, 2004-ish. I never remember Gym Partner or Lazlo or any others of that ilk ever being referred to as such, but maybe I'm just mistaken.
...but now I'm just splitting hairs, so whatever. :sweat:
Quote from: Nel on August 14, 2012, 01:01:50 AM
Don't forget that shaved animal shit. heh
That's actually not a CN original, though; another *cough*
fine import from north of the border, as it stands.
Quote from: Kiddington on August 14, 2012, 01:27:46 AM
Quote from: Eddy on August 14, 2012, 01:24:32 AM
Okay, I forgot about Squirrel Boy. And I guess I wasn't thinking of Problem Solverz and Annoying Orange as "Cartoon Cartoons" since, at the point, they dropped the label.
But, yeah, all of them are worthy contenders for "worst Cartoon Network orignal". Whoever wins, we lose.
I thought they dropped the actual "Cartoon Cartoon" label way back around 2003, 2004-ish. I never remember Gym Partner or Lazlo or any others of that ilk ever being referred to as such, but maybe I'm just mistaken.
In all fairness, I still think of Cartoon Cartoons as anything made with the CN Studios label now. (With obvious exceptions like EEnE and Courage) Can't shake that label to this day so things like Regular Show and Flapjack still count for me as CC. Gym Partner and Lazlo still were made there. Though despite coming from the bad era, I still like the ending animations they had near the credits for them. Seeing a fun little pencil test of the cartoon characters doing something silly made me smile.
I admit that I too often think of all CN originals as Cartoon Cartoons (though for some reason I have a harder time thinking of Adventure Time and Regular Show in such a way). I wish they'd bring the name back.
I go by the belief that all CN originals made up to KND were Cartoon Cartoons, with the exception of Jack.
I don't give a fuck about the Cartoon Cartoons label. In the end, they're all CN originals.
Wasn't Adventure Time originally going to be a Nicktoon?
Quote from: Dr. Insomniac on August 14, 2012, 11:36:43 AM
I don't give a fuck about the Cartoon Cartoons label. In the end, they're all CN originals.
This.
Quote from: Foggle on August 14, 2012, 12:31:50 PM
Wasn't Adventure Time originally going to be a Nicktoon?
The pilot was made for their Oh Yeah! Cartoons revival, but I don't think Nick ever really considered buying it. CN picked it up as soon as they could.
The Cartoon Cartoon thing was just a brand, and CNs attempt to get some of that Nicktoon notoriety. I don't really know why they stopped it, maybe because they realized their cartoons didn't need a gimmicky label to be successful, or maybe they just thought that era had passed. Today the label is really only there to invoke nostalgia.
To me though, the Cartoon Cartoon label applies to any show that had characters pop out of the word "Cartoon" and proclaim the label before their respective show came on. It was kind of like seeing the WB logo and Bugs Bunny's head popping up letting you know you were about to watch a Bugs cartoon.
No Cartoon Planet this week. It was apparently preempted...by Shark Tale. Ah well.
Quote from: Rynnec on August 17, 2012, 10:24:47 PM
No Cartoon Planet this week. It was apparently preempted...by Shark Tale. Ah well.
:wth:
Not that I really watch Cartoon Planet with any degree of consistency, so that not being on doesn't really mean anything to me... but what is CN doing airing
that movie?
Ah hell, what am I saying... this is the same channel that airs actually Son of the Mask like every other month. Nevermind, just par for the course.
Ugh, really? Shark Tale? Couldn't they at least air a decent animated movie? Like The Fantastic Mr. Fox or something?
Quote from: Eddy on August 18, 2012, 02:10:22 AM
Ugh, really? Shark Tale? Couldn't they at least air a decent animated movie? Like The Fantastic Mr. Fox or something?
Be glad they didn't air Eragon.
Watching old Cartoon Network bumps sort of makes me sad. The whole idea that all the cartoon characters worked at Cartoon Network was such a great, fun, and creative idea. Seeing characters like Scooby and the gang interact with the guys of Megas XLR, Fred Flinstone trying to find a parking spot with Chicken and He-Man, or Sheep trying to find a place to sit in the cafeteria. These were great bumpers.
I really hate Cartoon Network's bump style now. I don't even know what to call it. Random clips being played in an attempt to create internet memes style? Whatever it is, it sucks. Go back to the style of all the cartoons interacting with one another, CN. Let's see Finn and Jake try to go adventuring with Scooby. Let's see the Eds and Mordecai and Rigby team up to perform some crazy scheme. I don't know.
Quote from: Eddy on August 24, 2012, 02:52:16 AM
Fred Flinstone trying to find a parking spot with Chicken and He-Man
Thundarr the Barbarian, actually.
But yeah, the original bumpers and ads for CN were the best.
This episode of PPG is pretty great. But being directed by Genndy and Craig will do that.
For clarification, Spark is talking about the PPG episode where we discover Mojojojo's backstory.
Right now, they're showing the Clubhouse episode of EEnE.
Oh yeah, forgot the episode's title. Still, it's a great one. I'm also digging this ep of EE&E.
I know you guys aren't too keen on Flapjack, but episodes like this one are why I enjoyed it so much.
Ugh, Gym Partner's on now.
What a terrible end to a great block.
Have they shown anything beyond season 1 of EEnE since I stopped watching?
From what I've notice, no they have not.
Which Flapjack was it?
I actually liked Flapjack myself. Certainly not my favorite show Cartoon Network has ever had but I still found it pretty fun. Though it's not exactly the show that comes to mind when I think "nostalgia" but I guess, as far as Cartoon Network is concerned, anything pre-Adventure Time and Regular Show is nostalgic.
The current buzz on "the other place" (Toon Zone) is that Cartoon Planet may be coming to an end soon because apparently, there are no episode(s) scheduled after next week's (Aug 31). If that's truly the case, then I say "Oh, well." I knew from the get-go that CP wouldn't run for years. It's basically Boomerang cut into little bite-sized pieces. The Brak and Zorak wraparounds were amusing, but there wasn't nearly enough of them and the same ones would be repeated constantly. Plus, with no new material on the block, the novelty soon began to wear off. Overall, I liked the original Cartoon Planet more (I missed Space Ghost). I'd like to see the 1st CP come to Boomerang. It would give me a reason to watch that channel again.
The problem with nostalgia is that it has a limited shelf life. People tune in initially, but some people start to lose interest after a couple of weeks or months.
I didn't think it would last too long(along with Toonami it logically is one of those things that can't last), but I at least figured it would stick around until the channel's anniversary in October. That's what I thought all this nostalgia stuff regarding the channel was all about.
I'm guessing that Cartoon Network will run the new season of Star Wars: The Clone Wars and Ben 10: Omnitrix on Friday nights in place of Cartoon Planet, even though CN has tried action premieres on Friday nights before, and it didn't work out so well.
Even if Cartoon Planet goes away, there's still Boomerang and iTunes for those who need their old-school CN fix.
It's a shame, but at least it was fun while it lasted. They just needed to pick less Gym Partner, but at least Squirrel Boy never found its way in.
Yeah, they seemed to stick to the more popular shows. Weasel and Evil Con Carne get a pass since they started out with more popular shows.
Quote from: Eddy on August 24, 2012, 02:52:16 AM
Watching old Cartoon Network bumps sort of makes me sad. The whole idea that all the cartoon characters worked at Cartoon Network was such a great, fun, and creative idea. Seeing characters like Scooby and the gang interact with the guys of Megas XLR, Fred Flinstone trying to find a parking spot with Chicken and He-Man, or Sheep trying to find a place to sit in the cafeteria. These were great bumpers.
I really hate Cartoon Network's bump style now. I don't even know what to call it. Random clips being played in an attempt to create internet memes style? Whatever it is, it sucks. Go back to the style of all the cartoons interacting with one another, CN. Let's see Finn and Jake try to go adventuring with Scooby. Let's see the Eds and Mordecai and Rigby team up to perform some crazy scheme. I don't know.
Did this really happen?! :o Either way, I miss those commercials. I also miss when they let the Cartoon Cartoons characters host.
And...it's over. Tonight will be the last week of Cartoon Planet. Starting next week, Cartoon Network will begin airing encores (aka, reruns) of Dragons: Riders of Berk at 8PM and Level Up at 8:30PM (EST).
If I'm home, I'll watch it.
Fun while it lasted.
Quote from: Goldstar on August 31, 2012, 08:02:47 AM
And...it's over. Tonight will be the last week of Cartoon Planet. Starting next week, Cartoon Network will begin airing encores (aka, reruns) of Dragons: Riders of Berk at 8PM and Level Up at 8:30PM (EST).
:D :D :D
Level Up? Seriously? :unimpressed:
How insulting.
Level Up?
They couldn't even replace it with a cartoon?
:wth:
Fuck you, Cartoon Network.
Another excuse to stick to my DVDs.
...yes, I haven't gotten Netflix yet. Don't remind me.
That's okay, Cartoon Network still doesn't have any of its shows up on Netflix.
You're not alone my good doctor. I keep forgetting to sign up for that service.
I don't know about you, but I can't stop using Netflix. That's how I get my fix of:
-Archer
-Doctor Who
-Sherlock
-Breaking Bad
-Star Trek (ALL series, even the animated one)
-Cheers
-Frasier
-The Dick Van Dyke Show
-Scrubs
-Ned's Declassified
-Drake & Josh
-What I don't own of Buffy and Angel on DVD
-The Twilight Zone (season 4 aside)
-The Andy Griffith Show
-Louie
-King of the Hill
-Futurama
-Home Movies
-Parks and Recreation
-30 Rock
-The X-Files
And where I'll eventually start Mad Men, Better Off Ted and Battlestar Galactica. I might be forgetting more, like some good shows I already own on DVD, and an infinite supply of movies but yeah, there's a LOT to check out for a good price.
Shame Cartoon Planet didn't last a bit more longer, but I don't see the big deal of Level Up airing then because everything airing on Fridays past them moving the action shows to Saturday is just a place holder. Level Up's reruns won't do well in that slot, and they know it. In fact, I think next year it will officially be canceled.
I saw a couple episodes, it was goofy but okay/tolerable. My problem with LU is that it seems more like a slice-of-life show rather than a straight action-comedy.
It seems like everything Level Up touches turns to shit. Didn't The Looney Tunes Show massively drop in ratings when they put LU right next to it?
I don't get why the execs at CN think that they need live-action for kids to relate to. If anything, I think kids need just as many shows that they CAN'T relate to as opposed to ones they can. Sometimes, hell, oftentimes, kids want to watch TV or movies to escape their problems, and turning on to shows about kids in school just like them doesn't let them do that at all.
This is why the more absurd cartoons have always done better on Cartoon Network than the more subdued ones, like how even though both shows premiered that same night, Courage took off while Mike, Lu & Og bombed. This is why Adventure Time and Regular Show are the network's current big hits, while all their recent live-action endeavors keep on failing. And why Dexter's Lab, Powerpuff Girls, and Ed, Edd n' Eddy (which even in it's last season in school was way more hectic and creative than most of its peers) still remain their most popular shows of all time.
The excuse that I hate hearing the most is when CN execs (as well as certain fans) say that CN needs live action for variety. That's complete BS. Between comedy cartoons, action cartoons, old-school cartoons, teen oriented cartoons, sci-fi, romance, etc., the world of animation offers plenty of variety.
Quote from: Avaitor on September 01, 2012, 02:37:52 PM
It seems like everything Level Up touches turns to shit. Didn't The Looney Tunes Show massively drop in ratings when they put LU right next to it?
Feels that way. I guess that's why they try to give Level Up a lead in show like Gumball, Total Drama Revenge of the Island, and now Dragons: Riders of Berk, rather than LU be the lead in for those guys. I'm guessing LU hurting other shows is the reason why an Adventure Time rerun is used at 8:30. I do remember for Gumball that The Huntsman was worried about if Level Up would hurt Gumball's success. Of course I write that and most of what he says off due to his pessimistic views, but I think he might be right with that one, if it wasn't for Gumball getting a 2nd season. But then again I could be talking out of my ass since I can't recall if Level Up was the lead in for TLTS or not. Also, it doesn't help that certain people don't keep track of/make public knowledge of the ratings until 8 PM starts.
QuoteI don't get why the execs at CN think that they need live-action for kids to relate to. If anything, I think kids need just as many shows that they CAN'T relate to as opposed to ones they can. Sometimes, hell, oftentimes, kids want to watch TV or movies to escape their problems, and turning on to shows about kids in school just like them doesn't let them do that at all.
This is why the more absurd cartoons have always done better on Cartoon Network than the more subdued ones, like how even though both shows premiered that same night, Courage took off while Mike, Lu & Og bombed. This is why Adventure Time and Regular Show are the network's current big hits, while all their recent live-action endeavors keep on failing. And why Dexter's Lab, Powerpuff Girls, and Ed, Edd n' Eddy (which even in it's last season in school was way more hectic and creative than most of its peers) still remain their most popular shows of all time.
Valid points all the way. This is why I love cartoons, I love shit you can't do in reality, like take a fall that will kill you at normal heights
I have nothing against nostalgia, but it has a tendency to bring out the worst in some people.
Next month, in honor of their 20th anniversary, Cartoon Network will be launching this big to-do: (http://www.cartoonbrew.com/biz/cartoon-network-to-launch-on-air-stunts-to-celebrate-20th-birthday-oct-1-70003.html)
Now, this is cool, I'm fine with them doing something like this, it's good that CN is commemorating 20 years of being on the air and remembering their older fans, but what bothers me about it is that upon reading this, many of the same viewers who have been shitting on Cartoon Network since the 90's ended are now praising it to the stars. And once this big nostalgia ballyhoo is over and the retro-celebration is done, these same people will just start shitting on CN once more. It'll just be Cartoon Planet all over again.
You know that once the month ends, the people who are praising CN now will forget that all of this happened and will bad name them again. It's a cycle, pretty much.
Those people will die out, only to be replaced by old men in the future complaining about why Adventure Time got canned.
Here's a Genndy Q&A from Reddit. (http://www.reddit.com/r/IAmA/comments/10l1an/i_am_genndy_tartakovsky_the_director_of_hotel/) He talks about the Samurai Jack movie, PPG revival, and Dexter's Rude Removal here, while pumping up Hotel Transylvania.
The most interesting part of this is when he agrees that Johnny Test is a Dexter's Lab rip-off.
Dexter's Rude Removal... man, I can't believe after all these years, we still don't have access to it.
If he has a copy of it, why not just put it on Youtube? I mean, the show has been dead and gone for nearly 10 years now; as far as CN is concerned (because they haven't aired it in quite some time), it's ancient history. Besides, anyone who grew up with Dexter is an adult now anyway. Can't imagine why anyone at the network would care.
Ah well, hopefully someday...
I suppose that crew members are too scared to leak it out without being liable.
Well I don't think too many of them have copies anymore. Craig was recently asked about it, and he didn't even know if a print still existed.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW740EBviW8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW740EBviW8)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MyX1fZ4tMU (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5MyX1fZ4tMU)
You know, I probably wouldn't even bother tuning into marathons this long nowadays, but I still really enjoyed them years ago and its a shame they probably can't do this again due to how they structured the network now.
I remember watching ALL of Best Day Edder, cause I wanted to see all of the show again, cause who knew how much longer it was gonna be on the network. And depending on how busy I would be if they did that again, I'd watch the whole thing again now too.
I remember that it actually did better than the Best Day Ever marathon did earlier, or at least relatively compared to Nick. That just shows how popular and important the show was.
The strange thing about its popularity is how despite being the longest lasting of the first few original CN shows, it still seems relatively underground. When you ask people about classic CN shows in general, they usually list stuff like Dexter's Lab or Powerpuff Girls or even Toonami stuff before they bring up EEnE.
Maybe it's just lost in the shuffle of 90s nostalgia since it premiered in the tail end of the decade just like Spongebob did.
The thing I find even weirder is how it's kind of given the shaft in comparison to a lot of other shows for the anniversary. I've only seen tomorrow and this upcoming Saturday's schedules, and it's not on either of them. Even Chowder and Flapjack, which were considerably less popular, are given more love so far.
So while I wait for more votes, why don't you guys share some memories about the network on here?
I remember when my household first got Cartoon Network back in 1995. We had Comcast cable at the time and CN was just added to our basic package. Friday nights were cool because CN would air Space Ghost: Coast to Coast at 11PM, followed by Cartoon Planet at 11:15PM, and that would be followed by Toon-A-Palooza at midnight. The non-stop reruns got repetitive after a while, but when I 1st got the channel, seeing those shows again for the first time in years (or in the case of some shows, decades) was sweet.
I didn't really start getting into Cartoon Network until the World Premiere Toons (which of course gave birth to the Cartoon-Cartoons), Space Ghost: Coast to Coast and Toonami began, and I didn't start really watching Toonami until they began airing shows like Dragon Ball/Z, ReBoot, Sailor Moon, Tenchi Muyo! and Outlaw Star. I wasn't all that into CN back when they were basically just the Hanna-Barbera Reruns Channel lightly sprinkled with some Warner Bros. and MGM shorts. Don't get me wrong, I love Looney Tunes and MGM cartoons (not the biggest HB fan there is, but their stuff is OK in small doses, if a tad repetitive and interchangeable), but back then when that was all the network carried, it got stale very quickly.
The current CN is OK, though I miss having 2 to 4 hours of premiere block goodness to watch on Friday and Saturday nights.
Check this out. (http://www.illustrationserved.com/gallery/Tarot-Cards-CN/1063873)
A set of tarot cards made with CN characters, probably around 2004. They even have some [as] stuff in here!
New anniversary promo... and this one's pretty sweet. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ga-xz3XtrPM)
Haven't seen it on TV yet, though.
I don't know if anyone cares, but they seem to be bringing Cartoon Planet back, at least for October.
Here were tonight's episodes
Courage the Cowardly Dog: the Were-Mole episode
Kids Next Door: Operation: T.R.I.C.K
I Am Weasel: I Am Vampire
Dexter's Laboratory: Jurassic Pooch
Cow & Chicken: Happy Meat
They seemed to go for a Halloween theme for the first half. And I believe there were like...one or two new Brak and Zorak skits.
Yeah, I caught it. My rankings:
Courage
Dexter's Lab
Cow & Chicken
I Am Weasel
KND
The Courage is a classic, while the Dexter and Cow & Chicken episodes lose points for not having anything to do with Halloween, but they're good too. Meanwhile, the Weasel short was weird, and KND was... well, KND. I do give it credit for having Numbah One dress up as a Borg, though.
Courage is on the TV, with the checkerboard logo at the bottom of the screen. I had to check my calendar and make sure this wasn't 1999.
Yeah and, this is the first time this week I've watched the channel, so I've missed all the anniversary hubbub.
Well they're airing stuff like what they did on Monday on the weekends too, so you didn't miss too much.
Chowder's on now BTW.
And it's a good episode of Chowder to boot.
These 20th Anniversary bumpers with all the old and new characters together are freaking awesome.
Quote from: Nel on October 13, 2012, 07:56:45 PM
These 20th Anniversary bumpers with all the old and new characters together are freaking awesome.
Ah, I caught a few seconds of that one time (I no longer have the channel) I just stood there, not believing my eyes. So beautiful. :cry: ...and why the hell was Johnny Bravo hitting on an Imaginary Friend? Just...creepy...
Avaitor was talking about sharing old memories a few posts back. I've been thinking about one. One of my favorite cartoon related ones. When my brother and me loved with our Grandma she used to let us watch TV all night long (AKA cartoons all night long), even on school nights). We just laid down on a blanket in front of the TV. I believe that was around the Premiere/Cartoon Cartoons times. Those were the much better days.
Did you watch the World Premiere Cartoon marathon when they did that, the one where in the span of 48 hours, they showed one WAC short at each hour alongside the regular classics?
I...do not know. :sweat: As far as scheduling goes, it's all a blur to me, including marathons. I just devoured 'toon watching back then.
For those paying attention, how does this anniversary hold up in comparison to the 10th in 2002?
Oddly, I can't seem to remember much about the last one. This one on the other hand seems okay I guess, but still a lot of garbage in there that I wish they'd just drop already (so much Johnny Test). But hey, at least the live-action is pretty much non-existent this month, so... glass half-full, right? :awesome:
So far, for the 20th anniversary, we've had a neat set of bumpers, 3 different music videos, a bunch of celebratory art, returns of a bunch of older programming to the lineup, and a big poll asking fans to vote for the best of the network's history. While for the 10th anniversary, we had... a minute-long compilation video that only aired a couple of times.
I think the 20th anniversary wins this round.
Huh. So the 10th was that little, eh?
No wonder I don't remember a thing about it.
Did you guys post in CN's polls? Because the winners are being shown tomorrow.
Here's this weeks CP episodes:
Dexter's Lab - Mock-5
KND - Operation: T.U.R.N.I.P
Billy and Mandy - Spider's Little Daddy
Johnny Bravo - Beach Blanket Bravo
Cow & Chicken - Field Trip to Folsom Prison
Still the same ol' same ol'. Though, I did like the Dexter's Lab episode.
I think I'm covering that Johnny Bravo short next week. Not sure, and I don't want to double check.
https://twitter.com/adultswim/status/275417904894341121 (https://twitter.com/adultswim/status/275417904894341121)
Looks like the current update on it is that they plan to upload Dexter's Rude Removal on Adult Swim website, you just have to participate in their twitter campaign of #telljeff to upload it faster.
This weeks CP was a showing of X-mas themed episodes from Courage (the Nutcracker episode), I.M Weasel, Dexter's Lab, and Evil Con Carne.
KND was also part of this weeks lineup, but since that shows X-mas episode is a half-hour one, they just aired Operation ARCTIC instead. Would've taken Johnny Bravo's Christmas Episode over that, but whatevs.
Once upon a time, Cartoon Network was great. Time Warner in my area added it at the end of 1996, early '97.
I'd come home from work, and after dinner, settle into the parents' room for the last part of Power Zone (Super Friends). That made my day. Of course, as time wore on, the network would evolve----or is that devolve these days---but the current product just doesn't do it for me. I haven't followed any of the current shows lately, and I'm more concerned about the clueless suits in charge of the network.
I have to admit I have some trepidation about the pending Batman series, only because Mitch Watson, who "reinvented" Scooby-Doo as he saw fit, not as an actual representation of the fanbase, IMPO, is involved. Does this guy know anything about the shows he's working on? "Beware the Batman" just ain't gonna fly far if they don't use classic villains or Batgirl/Robin.
Any number of us could go to Atlanta and present a case for booting the current administration for being irresponsible and disrespectful to the product and its consumers (us). Of course, they'll just turn around and boot us for having brains.........
Good news: They're adding new shows to Cartoon Planet
Bad news: Those new shows include Robotomy, Secret Mountain Fort Awesome, and The Problem Solverz
:cry:
Quote from: Avaitor on January 11, 2013, 04:18:07 PM
Good news: They're adding new shows to Cartoon Planet
Bad news: Those new shows include Robotomy, Secret Mountain Fort Awesome, and The Problem Solverz
:shit:
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Quote from: Avaitor on January 11, 2013, 04:18:07 PM
Good news: They're adding new shows to Cartoon Planet
Bad news: Those new shows include Robotomy, Secret Mountain Fort Awesome, and The Problem Solverz
I actually kind of liked
Secret Mountain Fort Awesome.
Robotomy was OK, but not great. As for
The Problem Solverz, I couldn't stand to look at it long enough to get into any of the stories. Anyway,
Cartoon Planet isn't about nostalgia anymore if they'll be airing series that recent, but I honestly don't think that CN cares at this point. CP mostly just seems like something for the network to run on Friday nights until 9PM.
I liked Robotomy, so it's OK.
Yeah, it's basically a dumping ground for cancelled Cartoon Network shows. And in regards to "Secret Mountain Fort Awesome", there are actually EIGHT episodes that's unaired. Maybe they can finally show up on Cartoon Planet.
There's also a bunch of Problem Solverz episodes that have been unaired. I'm guessing at this point, the show is done for, and those might air on the block as well.
I'm honestly surprised to see some actual variety being thrown into this block, albeit of the bad sort. But hey, it's something!
As far as I can tell, they still haven't aired a single EEnE episode beyond Season 1... and that I just don't understand at all. Season 1 really isn't even that good when held up to the rest of the show.
Quote from: Avaitor on January 11, 2013, 04:18:07 PM
Good news: They're adding new shows to Cartoon Planet
Bad news: Those new shows include Robotomy, Secret Mountain Fort Awesome, and The Problem Solverz
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Meh. I wasn't really planning on watching CP much more anyway.
I find it interesting how CN will add shows that ran for less than a full season to Cartoon Planet, yet they still won't air Time Squad, Whatever Happened to Robot Jones?, Robotboy, Squirrel Boy or Mike, Lu & Og. I understand why Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi, Sheep in the Big City and Class of 3000 are ignored: the average Sheep episode is too long for CP (22-minute cartoons won't air there unless the show were to get expanded to 2 hours, which won't happen as long as [adult swim] starts at 9), and Puffy and Class feature caricatures of living celebrities who'd have to be paid royalties for the use of their likenesses every week, which would cost money. (Class of 3000 was also done in a 22-minute format, so again airing it on CP would take up half the show.)
The shows listed in my first sentence must've really stank up the network, seeing as how nowadays CN won't so much as acknowledge them, not even for a filler block like this. I'm not saying any of those were especially great, but they'd at least add some more variety to the show, especially since CP never airs any Powerpuff Girls orEd, Edd 'n' Eddy shorts beyond season 1.
If the Toonami tumblr has taught me anything is that sometimes Cartoon Network writes off certain shows for some reason. Usually due to how the show didn't rake in enough ratings to justify the cost of the series. I mean, the Toonami staff has mentioned that shows like IGPX and Megas XLR have been written off by CN and will never air again. In fact, Jason DeMarco was kind of sad to learn that IGPX was written off since that was one show he wanted on the revival of Toonami. When I heard that, I just assumed the same thing happened to shows like Sheep in the Big City & Squirrel Boy.
^ I did learn (from Aviator) that Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi got on CN's shit list because it basically failed to be the next successful heir-apparent girl-centric follow-up to The Powerpuff Girls. Not only did HHPAY disappear from CN as a result of it's failure, but it left the network unwilling to take a chance on cartoons with female leads for a long time.
Quote from: Silverstar on January 12, 2013, 08:55:58 PM
^ I did learn (from Aviator) that Hi Hi Puffy AmiYumi got on CN's shit list because it basically failed to be the next successful heir-apparent girl-centric follow-up to The Powerpuff Girls. Not only did HHPAY disappear from CN as a result of it's failure, but it left the network unwilling to take a chance on cartoons with female leads for a long time.
...Which is a dern shame, especially since CN's attempt to attract female viewers was tried quite seriously during the time when the network had acquired France's
Totally Spies and Canada's
Atomic Betty. CN even tried running both shows back-to-back on Sunday evenings in an hour long block that was called "Totally Atomic". Kind of a mini Toonami for girls.
I don't think CN has entirely given up on girl-oriented programming, since they brought back Totally Spies a couple of years ago (btw, they're making ANOTHER season in France, which CN will probably air as well), and we're getting that new PPG special. But I do think the days of them personally funding and producing female-lead shows, aside from Powerpuff, is over.
They won't air any of those shows yet they air Gym Partner. I guess that show must have got better ratings than I remembered, because I rarely ever saw or heard a good thing about it when it was on.
IIRC, kids liked it okay, but it was hardly a Dexter, PPG, or Ed-size hit.
A lot of the people old enough to post on message boards had nothing but negative things to say about Gym Partner, but I guess it must have been fairly popular with kids, though not a monster hit by any definition.
I personally could never get into MGPAM not only because I didn't find it terribly funny nor were the characters all that appealing to me, but the basic premise didn't make sense, even by cartoon logic. Where was this town that had a school for animals in it, and why should such an institution even exist at all? Why do animals need to go to school anyway? Are they studying to be the next animal scientists, animal layers and animal doctors? The human kid (Adam) was only there due to a clerical error (his last was Lyon), so didn't his parents ever try to get him transferred out of there? But I guess kids don't think or care about details like that.
Eh, Cartoon Network is home to a show where a torso-less couple were able to give birth to a chicken and cow, one where a sheep is the necessary ingredient to the most powerful nuclear weapon in the world, and another where anyone can see your imaginary friends, basically making the term an oxymoron.
I don't think kids care about logic with their cartoons.
Well it is kind of a thin premise for a show. It's not so much a set up as it is a setting, which cut it off at the knees before it even began.
Let me take you guys back about 10 years.
In 2003, CN was contracted to do a promotional tie-in to sister network TNT's coverage of the NBA All-Star Game, and as such, had NBA players appear with various cartoon characters to queue up a block of eps of said character's show.
For example, Shaquille O'Neal was teamed not with Superman, but with Godzilla. Go figure that one out. Jamal Mashburn drew Buttercup of the Powerpuff Girls, IIRC. Elton Brand, IIRC, was with Space Ghost (George Lowe, of course, instead of Gary Owens).
Jason Kidd, then with the Nets, now with the Knicks, got lucky---sort of. His partner for the day?Jayna! Oh, I was dying. You can tell the same goofs behind [adult swim] might have had a hand in this, too, since Jason, subbing for Zan for a day, is turned into a bucket of water, and we don't see the conclusion to that skit. Bad writing from the CN asylum, as usual.
I wish this was on YouTube, but it ain't, so you have to take my word for it, whatever it's worth.
I remember that. Hong Kong Phooey was a part of that as well.
Speaking of this, do you guys remember that Godzilla cartoon with Godzooky? He was like Scrappy, but even worse, if you can believe it. I still watched it if nothing else was on though.
I remember HB's Godzilla cartoon. I remember Godzooky, but I don't really recall anything specific about him except he was the requisite Annoying Comic Relief Pet/Mascot character, which was a staple of HB cartoons at the time. IIRC, he was supposed to be Godzilla's nephew or cousin or something.
IIRC, the Godzilla toon ran by itself for a season, then the following year NBC paired it with reruns of The Super Globetrotters.
Godzooky was in fact meant to be Godzilla's nephew. Preceded Scrappy-Doo by a year.
@Silverstar: Godzilla started off with the Godzilla Power Hour, which had Jana of the Jungle as a backup feature, created and produced by Jonny Quest's creator, Doug Wildey. Jonny reruns were added about two months in, changing the title to Godzilla Super 90. Jana was cancelled after 1 season, leaving 'Zilla all alone, as you noted, until they put together a block with 'Zilla, the abysmal Super Globetrotters (Impossibles ripoff), & Hong Kong Phooey reruns.
So this happened. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TAOSLKiXx9k)
:shit:
I'm....not entirely sure which emotion to use for that.
And they even got the original voice actors to boot. Charming.
Creepy.
Quote from: Kiddington on January 29, 2013, 09:43:20 PM
And they even got the original voice actors to boot. Charming.
Charlie Adler does play a regular character on the show itself, Professor Blarney T. Hokester, so it wouldn't be hard to get him to voice that small bit.
I thought it was kinda cute. At least hearing Charlie Adler again.
The designs are creepy as fuck though.
Can't stand Ben 10, but that cameo was great.
I figured that I'd bring this over here, but this is my current collection of Cartoon Network shows on DVD-
Johnny Bravo Season 1
Ed, Edd n' Eddy Seasons 1 and 2
Samurai Jack Seasons 1 an 4
Billy & Mandy's Big Boogie Adventure
Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends Season 1
Previously owned:
The Powerpuff Girls Season 1 (traded in when the complete series set was announced in hopes of getting it- this has still yet to happen)
The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy Season 1 (traded in when it became apparent that the rest of the show was not coming out, and didn't feel like having it since season 1 sucks)
I didn't add in any of the DVDs I own from shows that aired on CN, but weren't made by them, since that would be a lot longer. Unless you want me to.
Quote from: Avaitor on March 15, 2013, 02:12:42 AM
The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy Season 1 (traded in when it became apparent that the rest of the show was not coming out, and didn't feel like having it since season 1 sucks)
Ooooh, that's a shame. You could've fetched a decent price for it with a little effort (http://www.amazon.com/The-Grim-Adventures-Billy-Mandy/dp/B000RLULCE).
I still own that set by the way, but just can't bring myself to part with it. Maybe if I was strapped for cash and I
had to, but otherwise... nope. I'm keeping it.
Quote from: Kiddington on March 15, 2013, 02:15:57 AM
Quote from: Avaitor on March 15, 2013, 02:12:42 AM
The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy Season 1 (traded in when it became apparent that the rest of the show was not coming out, and didn't feel like having it since season 1 sucks)
Ooooh, that's a shame. You could've fetched a decent price for it with a little effort (http://www.amazon.com/The-Grim-Adventures-Billy-Mandy/dp/B000RLULCE).
Damn. Better than the 3 or 4 buck store credit I got from FYE.
Even though their prices are jacked up way too high (well, they're up to MSRP prices, but that's still too much more often than not), their return prices are crap. But IIRC, I did get a copy of Castle of Cagliostro out of it.
...which I ended up trading elsewhere after it hit Netflix. But I got my SNES out of that!
Some of these discontinued sets, for whatever reason, are really overpriced at this point. This one's even worse. (http://www.amazon.com/Fosters-Home-Imaginary-Friends-Complete/dp/B000R17RTY)
Must've had a really short print run.
Yeah, I never even saw that around here. Or the Dexter set.
I would've bought them if I did (I was still on my Foster's craze, but hell, if I did see that now, I'd still buy it just to say that I own it).
The Dexter set is kinda rare (I own it though; Walmart had a few copies right when it came out), but not expensive. I was in Barnes and Noble the other day (pretty much all of their DVDs are MSRP), and even they had it for only $20.
That Foster's set, though... that's one of the few that slipped by me. And at this point, I could never see myself spending so much money on that. It's a good enough show in small doses, but I don't like it anywhere near as much as I used to.
Yeah, I wouldn't go triple digits on that set, or any of these, but if I found it used for a good price, I'd hit that up no questions asked.
But honestly, I still see some copies of the Courage set at Walmart for $15, and I just can't get myself to buy it. Why spend this much on one DVD of a show that will never have the rest of its run see the light of day?
I'm bored enough to share the rest of my collection, spanning:
Looney Tunes Golden Collection Volumes 1 and 6
Looney Tunes Super Stars: Pepe Le Pew- Zee Best of Zee Best (won it from a contest on GAC; do not regret it one bit)
The Complete Droopy
The Flintstones Seasons 1 and 2
Top Cat: The Complete Series
Hanna-Barbera Cartoon Crack-Ups (single from like 2000 with Flintstones, Jetsons, Top Cat, Huckleberry Hound/Yogi Bear/Pixie and Dixie and Scooby-Doo)
Animaniacs Volumes 1 and 2
Freakazoid! Seasons 1 and 2
Pinky & the Brain Volume 1 (it never actually aired on CN, but whatever)
Batman: The Animated Series Volumes 1-4
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
Batman SubZero
Superman: The Animated Series Volumes 1 and 2
Batman Beyond Seasons 1 and 2
Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker
Justice League Seasons 1 and 2
Justice League Unlimited Seasons 1 and 2
Yu Yu Hakusho Seasons 1 and 3
Yu Yu Hakusho: Seven Sins
There might be more, but I can't think of any. I bought a random set of 70's cartoons at Gorilla Games for like $2. It had stuff like Jetsons (even though it was a 60's show), Josie & the Pussycats, the Super Globetrotters and the New Adventures of Batman on it. I traded that off, but it was worth it for the novelty.
I could never bring myself to buy any of the Hanna-Barbera sets.
Most of those shows just do not hold up.
Quote from: Kiddington on March 15, 2013, 02:21:23 AM
Some of these discontinued sets, for whatever reason, are really overpriced at this point. This one's even worse. (http://www.amazon.com/Fosters-Home-Imaginary-Friends-Complete/dp/B000R17RTY)
Must've had a really short print run.
That cover art of Cheese is enough to drive my away (Man, that thing is ugly!)
Anyway, I have
Animaniacs volumes 1, 2 and 3. I plan to get volume 4 (which came out on my birthday, as it happens)...eventually. I've being watching some of the reruns of A! on The Hub, and while the last season of A! is easily it's weakest, I still plan to get volume 4 just to say that I own the complete set.
Quote from: Kiddington on March 15, 2013, 02:26:21 AM
That Foster's set, though... that's one of the few that slipped by me. And at this point, I could never see myself spending so much money on that. It's a good enough show in small doses, but I don't like it anywhere near as much as I used to.
That's how I feel about
The Powerpuff Girls now. The entire series is on DVD as a complete box set, and I just have no desire to own it. I think the weak sauce post-movie episodes and that equally weak TV special killed PPG for me, that and the nonstop reruns on Boomerang for 4 + years.
If I found the complete PPG set for like $20 or $30, I'd definitely consider it, but at this point, I'm just waiting for it to hit Netflix.
Oh wow, check out the beginning of this spot. (http://cartoonnetworkads.tumblr.com/post/43776792136/i-am-weasel-explains-the-difference-between)
This blog is great- full of CN ads from all eras and countries.
Man, that was a great ad. I'd miss those days if I could remember them. :sweat:
And these were the best things ever. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TNmjNePpkBc#!)
God, Cartoon Network used to be creative. Now they are just.... :srs:
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And these were the best things ever. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=TNmjNePpkBc#!)
Interesting... and this came after the infamous rebrand earlier that summer which everyone (and by everyone I mean the overactive nostalgia crowd)
insists killed the network in the first place.
Nah, they still had some good stuff going for a while there. I'd say 2006-2007 was really when they started to lose their edge.
I'd say the start of the awful was the FALL WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT GROWN UPS INVENTED song.
That's actually posted on the tumblr, too, but I'd rather not link to that. Also, doesn't their page look familiar to you? In a zone-ish kind of way?
Yeah, that was about 2007-ish. Right around the time Out of Jimmy's Head became an actual thing.
Those were some dark days. I don't love the state of the network as it is right now, but even the most jaded nostalgia buffs have to admit; CN's a lot better off now than it was five years ago.
Quote from: Avaitor on March 16, 2013, 10:54:53 PM
I'd say the start of the awful was the FALL WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT GROWN UPS INVENTED song.
Seconded. Although the Noods were actually a lot of fun. Better than what they have now, at the very least.
I love the City era packaging, for the record. My favorite era of Cartoon Network in that regard, although I'm more nostalgic for the lineup of the Powerhouse era.
The City era was when I started to have issues with the network's lineup, but their sets of bumpers and promos were a lot of fun.
I'm definitely a Powerhouse guy, but I'd put City in second in terms of their ads. Checkerboard is probably third, but in hindsight, it was kind of dull in comparison. Not sure where I'd go after that.
Quote from: Kiddington on March 16, 2013, 11:00:10 PM
Yeah, that was about 2007-ish. Right around the time Out of Jimmy's Head became an actual thing.
Those were some dark days. I don't love the state of the network as it is right now, but even the most jaded nostalgia buffs have to admit; CN's a lot better off now than it was five years ago.
Yeah, those were definitely terrible times for Cartoon Network. I'm so relieved that we have a lineup of mostly good cartoons now, instead of a lineup of mostly mediocre animated and live action fare.
Quote from: Avaitor on March 16, 2013, 11:06:10 PM
The City era was when I started to have issues with the network's lineup, but their sets of bumpers and promos were a lot of fun.
I'm definitely a Powerhouse guy, but I'd put City in second in terms of their ads. Checkerboard is probably third, but in hindsight, it was kind of dull in comparison. Not sure where I'd go after that.
The City Era is my favorite in terms of packaging because I've always loved it when cartoon characters from different series interacted with each other. Nostalgia aside, I don't think the lineup was anywhere near as good as in the Powerhouse era. I don't remember Checkerboard at all, and I don't like any other packaging of Cartoon Network aside from the Noods. So I'd rank them City, Powerhouse, Noods, myself. I just wish Cartoon Network returned to making more fun, creative bumpers instead of the obnoxious generic ones they have now.
I forgot about the Noods!
Those were cute, but I wasn't hot on the worship they got elsewhere. But I'd be lying if I said that I didn't want one myself.
Quote from: Avaitor on March 16, 2013, 10:54:53 PM
That's actually posted on the tumblr, too, but I'd rather not link to that. Also, doesn't their page look familiar to you? In a zone-ish kind of way?
Oh yeah. They totally stole that backdrop from the Cartoon Network forum at Toonzone. :D
Favorite branding: Powerhouse/City (tie) and Noods
Favorite schedules/lineups: Powerhouse and City
Least Favorite ads/packaging: "YES!" and "Fall is Just Something that Grownups Invented"
Least Favorite eras: I'd probably say that 2006-2007 was Cartoon Network's lowest point; that's when it became clear that the Powers That Be didn't want CN to be a cartoon channel anymore, that was around the time they started airing movies like School of Rock which had zilch to do with animation and they started with that CN Real bullshit; and that wouldn't have been so bad if the live-action shows they brought in had at least been good, instead of just being kiddie versions of already existing reality and game shows. If we had gotten some decent live-action shows with some actual care and thought put into them like The Aquabats Supershow! I might have been able to deal with LA on Cartoon Network. And of course when Adult Swim took over the airwaves at 9PM, that wasn't great either.
I also wasn't crazy about CN from about 1995 and prior, when the channel was about 90% Hanna-Barbera reruns, and if that wasn't enough, the schedule was mostly just the same HB shows reran over and over in different blocks and packages all across the channel.
The current CN is OK, not great, but OK. I'm not a fan of everything on the channel, but I've never been a fan of any channel's entire schedule from any era. Present-day CN is far from perfect, but the channel hasn't sucked this little in a considerable while.
I'm a bigger Hanna-Barbera fan than most, but I definitely think that the channel got progressively better as it added in more and more originals, and peaked around the time that some of their shows had enough episodes to air daily and they got the rights to air virtually all of the Looney Tunes.
That's also around the time that they cut off most of the weaker HB shows, as well as the classic three-hour Toonami block, and you had a channel that almost always had something worth watching on.
Quote from: Avaitor on March 17, 2013, 01:55:55 PM
I'm a bigger Hanna-Barbera fan than most, but I definitely think that the channel got progressively better as it added in more and more originals, and peaked around the time that some of their shows had enough episodes to air daily and they got the rights to air virtually all of the Looney Tunes.
That's also around the time that they cut off most of the weaker HB shows, as well as the classic three-hour Toonami block, and you had a channel that almost always had something worth watching on.
Yeah, don't misunderstand me; I don't hate HB, I'm not the biggest HB fan there is but some of their offerings are OK in small doses. I just felt that the CN of that era was lacking in variety. It doesn't help that CN's parent companies generally only air about 10% of the cartoons they actually own.
I don't want nonstop retro across the board, but some decent classics mixed alongside original premieres is a good balance to me.
I definitely miss the days when I could switch to CN and just leave it there for hours on end. Sci-Fi Channel (pre-SyFy) and the late Tech TV used to be like that for me too, before the latter was killed and the former fell victim to Network Decay. These days I don't have a good 'refuge channel' that I can leave running and get continuous hours of goodness from. :imnothappy:
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Quote from: Avaitor on March 17, 2013, 01:55:55 PM
I'm a bigger Hanna-Barbera fan than most, but I definitely think that the channel got progressively better as it added in more and more originals, and peaked around the time that some of their shows had enough episodes to air daily and they got the rights to air virtually all of the Looney Tunes.
That's also around the time that they cut off most of the weaker HB shows, as well as the classic three-hour Toonami block, and you had a channel that almost always had something worth watching on.
Yeah, don't misunderstand me; I don't hate HB, I'm not the biggest HB fan there is but some of their offerings are OK in small doses. I just felt that the CN of that era was lacking in variety. It doesn't help that CN's parent companies generally only air about 10% of the cartoons they actually own.
I don't want nonstop retro across the board, but some decent classics mixed alongside original premieres is a good balance to me.
I definitely miss the days when I could switch to CN and just leave it there for hours on end. Sci-Fi Channel (pre-SyFy) and the late Tech TV used to be like that for me too, before the latter was killed and the former fell victim to Network Decay. These days I don't have a good 'refuge channel' that I can leave running and get continuous hours of goodness from. :imnothappy:
Yeah, I know what you mean. I was too young to have watched Cartoon Network from day one and didn't start watching until the mid-90's, but chances are pretty good that I would have become sick of the network in little time if I did. I love Quick Draw McGraw and Jonny Quest and everything, but a channel of nothing but that? I'd end up turning to Nickelodeon or even going outside after a few hours.
And my appreciation of Hanna-Barbera stops somewhere in the early 60's. You won't see me defend Help! It's the Hair Bear Bunch or Dino Boy anytime soon.
y'no what [as] should've done this year? Bring back CCF.
I don't care if it's not Friday, but that would have fit in with last year's prank like nothing better. They still own the shows and it shouldn't cost more than bringing TOM back to animate a few of the characters again, so there.
This year's attempt was completely uninspired, to say the least. I know Toonami nostalgia is pretty hard to top, but come on. Airing The Room would've been better than this (okay, maybe not, but still).
You know, I should send that idea to DeMarco on Twitter. Hey, you never know; maybe they'd take into account for next year.
Yeah, they could've at least got Birdemic or something.
I think they'd probably save the CCF idea for a Friday or something. But it might be hard for them to pick a good lineup, since CN has that rule where none of their shows current;y airing on the main network or Boomerang can go on [as], which is why Jack isn't on Toonami. Still, they might make an exception for one night for a lot of these shows.
They could get around it if they really wanted to. After all, they aired DBZ last year, and they completely relinquished the rights to that years ago (along with a few of those other shows as well).
I dunno, I doubt this ever happens. But hey, none of us could've seen Toonami's comeback on the horizon, so I guess you never know.
The least they could have done for AF is have another "classic night" where they air old bumpers and programs.
Maybe I'm just up too late, but I'm finding the giant cat heads hilarious.
*shrugs*
Adult Swim could've aired A Talking Cat!?! (http://www.avclub.com/articles/a-talking-cat-is-the-room-of-anthropomorphic-anima,93563/) to tie in with the cat head theme. Missed opportunity there.
As for CN, they could've aired an Out of Jimmy's Head marathon today, or a CN Real marathon. That would've ticked everybody off.
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Yeah, the City era was pretty cool.
Cartoon Planet as of late has become less about CN nostalgia and more about showcasing canceled CN shows. Isn't that what Boomerang is for? Sure, it was nice seeing Secret Mountain Fort Awesome again, but why not just run the canceled shows on Boomerang?
Quote from: Goldstar on April 20, 2013, 08:42:31 AM
Cartoon Planet as of late has become less about CN nostalgia and more about showcasing canceled CN shows. Isn't that what Boomerang is for? Sure, it was nice seeing Secret Mountain Fort Awesome again, but why not just run the canceled shows on Boomerang?
Because some shows like the one you referenced are too recent, like, within the last year, to air on Boomerang, and any recent programs that do air on Da Boom are only there for cross-promo purps or because of Snyder's stupid ideas.
The whole "so-and-so show is too recent to air on Boomerang" statement falls apart when you take into account that Da Boom currently airs or has aired the likes of The Secret Saturdays (2008) and Pink Panther & Pals (2010), neither of which are a decade old. Truth is that Turner can run whatever they want on Boom, since it's not supported by ads and it's subscribers aren't numerous enough for their voices of protest to be heard or paid attention to. Boomerang isn't so much a nostalgia channel as it is CN's trash bin where they place the shows they don't care about anymore.
EDIT: Earlier I listed Sym-Bionic Titan among the newer shows airing on Boom, but I was mistaken about that.
Wait, Boomerang has SBT?
I thought Toonami can't air any of CN's shows if they're airing on Boom. That's why they can't show Jack.
Quote from: Avaitor on April 20, 2013, 05:39:52 PM
Wait, Boomerang has SBT?
Oops, my mistake.
Titan went to AS Toonami, not Boom. Sorry 'bout that.
As for
Secret Mountain Fort Awesome, that hasn't aired on
Cartoon Planet since March. I doubt the reason why is because it's too recent, since they're currently running
Scaredy Squirrel and
Almost Naked Animals on CP. I guessed fans just reacted negatively to SMFA and
Robotomy being shown on CP, although I'd personally rather see those than
Scaredy Squirrel and ANA, personally.
My grandfather has the TV tuned to CN now, because apparently they're doing June Bugs this year. The bumpers even referred to it as such.
Although right now they're airing a Sylvester & Son short, so I don't think it's really a June Bugs marathon, but a random Looney Tunes marathon. It's cool to see the name be used again, regardless.
I guess bringing back June Bugs is cool enough, but if you really want to get me interested call me when they air Herr Meets Hare or even All This and Rabbit Stew.
Does anyone remember the "editorials" the network ran at the end of the 90's?
There were only 2 that I know of. One with the Wonder Twins (sans Gleek) and one with Fred (Scooby-Doo). Neither was in really good taste, just a case of the folks working on those ads messing with older fans. For example, they implied Fred was obsessed with Daphne at the time to the point of stalking. Oh, please, give me a break.
Oh, and there's also that equally lame NBA All-Star Jam x-promotion with TNT in 2003-4. The '03 edition featured Jayna (no Zan) paired with Jason Kidd. I can't even find that video on YouTube. I could care less about 2004, just as much as I'm not much for NBA at all anymore.
Anyone wanna share?
I remember those editorials. I thought they were cute, honestly, but then again, I loved most of the spots CN did back in the day.
Anyone have a few hours to kill?
This (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dQ9plIOolY) account has uploaded entire CCF lineups, sans commercials. I'm watching the one I just linked to right now.
:SHOCK: I've been checking out that channel's stuff. Nice find! :thumbup:
Also, here's a comment on one of his videos:
QuoteA PROMISE FROM TheCNMemories:
If anyone is able to provide commercials and idents, and possibly cartoon intros, from the first Cartoon Cartoon Fridays, aired on June 11, 1999, I will make a "Cartoon Cartoon Fridays Recreated" video for that show.
THE COMMERCIALS HAVE TO BE COMPLETE, AND THEY HAVE TO GO FROM THE FIRST SHOW TO THE LAST SHOW. I WILL ACCEPT COMMERCIALS FROM SEPARATE SOURCES, AS LONG AS EVERY COMMERCIAL IS PROVIDED
This guy... :swoon:
As far as a complete nostalgic recreation goes, the night Bobobo-bo Bo-bobo premiered for the first time on Fridays (not CCF, the block that succeeded it called Fridays) is something I would very much like to see, because I was never able to watch it that night cause I had to go to a stupid party, and so I ended up never watching that episode for two whole years before it was finally put online legally on Toonami Jetstream. It was the only time the series was ever aired, much less repeated, outside of Toonami, so I've always kicked myself for missing it.
As far as Cartoon Cartoon Fridays goes, though, while this guy is awesome for trying to recreate the experience...personally my nostalgia for it isn't all that strong, so I wasn't getting a lot out of them when I've tried to watch 'em before. To be honest, I'm not really prone to nostalgia much in the first place, so I guess I can't appreciate this as much as lots of other people can. I grown out of my childhood, and in fact, I'm not really enjoying a lot of the Cartoon Cartoons and Nicktoons and Disney Afternoon shows as much as I used to or thought I did. I wonder what's wrong with me? :P
I feel asleep after the Sheep episode on the block. I really enjoyed that (even though the animation was rough as hell, but hey, that was the pilot), as well as the Eds and PPG episodes. The opening Johnny Bravo one, not so much, but I like the last Ghostbusters spoof.
I'm picking it up again and I'm on the Dexter episode. It's okay so far. But I generally think that the Cartoon Cartoons hold up better than most of the other animated comedies I watched as a kid.
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Yeah, the City era was pretty cool.
Yeah, it was.
So all of the older CN originals will be taken off of Netflix before the end of the month.
I'm a little disappointed, but not too surprised. The newer shows, as well as Warner and [as]'s shows, will still be up for now though.
I take it not too many people had a desire to watch these shows? It's not like the license for them could be that much money.
Nah, I don't think that's it. I remember there being a big usage of streaming for a lot of these shows when they were put on. I think I read somewhere that EEnE was one of the most streamed shows on there in particular. But I guess Warner doesn't want to renew their contract after all.
While I'm on this CN nostalgia kick, remember JBVO? (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vz7kfG-7FeY) Here's an actual episode, cartoons and all.
I remember that show. I wish they had cartoons as hosts again.
Quote from: gunswordfist on March 27, 2014, 12:26:25 AM
I remember that show. I wish they had cartoons as hosts again.
Well, Cartoon Planet is still a thing, even if they never make new content for it. And they have Pizza Night with Pizza Steve on friday night, which reruns the new episodes of the week (I think. I've barely seen any of it. I don't watch CN live much anymore).
Is Cartoon Planet still a thing? I thought they cut the 8 PM hour already.
Cartoon Planet got moved to saturday and sunday afternoons after last summer. I just checked the schedule, and it seems to be gone now, but it was still airing earlier this year.
The 8pm hour hasn't been cut yet. That doesn't happen until the 31st.
Oh, okay. I stopped paying attention because their selections were getting tiresome. I mean, there are 5 seasons of Ed, Edd n' Eddy, so please stop acting like the first is the only one!
I'm watching some Cow and Chicken on Netflix before they take it down, which apparently will be any day now.
And now they are gone. Courage, Billy and Mandy, and KND are still there though.
Damn, I was hoping to use Netflix to watch the Dexter and Powerpuff episodes I needed. I thought I still had a day left, since they usually take things off at the last day of the month.
I'm glad Billy and Mandy and Courage are still there, for now, at least. I'll make sure to watch some eps of those before tuesday just to be safe.
Okay...so I just checked Netflix, and they only have season 3 of Billy and Mandy now. Interestingly, Courage and Kids Next Door's first seasons are gone, and have been replaced by Courage's third and fourth seasons and KND has it's 4th-6th seasons. So, they've traded off the first seasons of those shows for the latter seasons, it seems. Well...I'm not exactly happy about that, but there are still good Grim and Courage eps on there, so it's not all bad, but it's still weird that they'd put up the shows in parts like this but never just the whole series. Really, why won't they? :imnothappy:
EDIT: I just noticed that the entirety of Generator Rex is now on Netflix. I've been contemplating re-visiting that show sometime, so that's nice to see.
Been watching some Courage on Netflix. Man, I really love this kind of stuff. I wish there were more cartoons that went all out with zany-freaky imagery. It wasn't enough to be scary, but the images still stay in your head.
Also, the computer is my favorite character on the show.
They actually traded in older seasons for newer ones?
That's... hmm. I don't think that's a step forward or backward, actually. That seems square in the middle.
Some more newer seasons were added onto Netflix, without bringing back the ones they lost the contract for. That includes
Ed, Edd n' Eddy Seasons 3 and 4 (Great! That's when the show started getting REALLY good. I do wish that they added in the last season as well. Might as well, right?)
Samurai Jack Season 2 (I recall this being up to par with the first, if not a little better, so also good)
The Powerpuff Girls Season 4 (This is when the show started being painted digitally, around the time the movie came out, and for some reason most of the episodes were double length. There were some good ones here, but when they went back to the 2-short format, the show started to lose itself...)
Dexter's Laboratory Seasons 3 and 4 (The post-revival years. Yikes, idk about you, but I'd rather have the first 2 back)
Edit: I also found the second seasons of Johnny Bravo, Cow & Chicken, and Chowder. You know, the year when Chowder started going south rapidly. But JB and C&C are welcome.
Also, here's the first CCF lineup. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wL3yA4gt7FU)
I remember this! I wanted one of those Double D caps and the EEnE chair
I watched the whole clip, but I have one little nitpick for accuracy's sake(although I'm not sure this was implemented on the very first CCF or started later so there is some benefit of the doubt); at the beginning of each show the wrong Cartoon Cartoon logo is used. During Cartoon Cartoon Fridays each show would have the logo play and the character pop out and say "Cartoon Cartoons", but it was longer and it used a black background to go along the main CCF theme. The Cartoon Cartoon logos in this video were the ones used for normal airings throughout the week that took place outside of CCF.
Well the person used the copies of the episodes that he could. I'm not even sure if these were the right episodes, aside from the new EEnE.
I'm not sure if this is the right thread, since there's some new stuff in here as well, but holy crap check this out (http://hb-cn.tumblr.com/). The piece of Bill, Joe, and the newer guys has been making the rounds online recently, but the rest is new to me, and looks great!
So this happened, and we didn't know. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC1Aa4s9wDk)
Quote from: Avaitor on July 29, 2014, 04:58:08 PM
So this happened, and we didn't know. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RC1Aa4s9wDk)
Uh, speak for yourself. I watched that the day it aired. 1.5 years ago. :P
This isn't really nostalgic, but I couldn't think of another place to post this. But I heard a while ago that Thailand was getting a CN theme park, and I guess it's a water park. (http://pamupamu.tumblr.com/post/94612615508/cartoon-network-amazone-soft-opening-13-08-2014) It's worth posting here, since there's a few older series represented. ;)
Here's one that I don't remember. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zkMquY_5F3U&list=UUaPe7ZT-NAE7eSERhy4avFA) it's a cute one, though. They made similar ones for the Cartoon Cartoons a couple of years later, but this is a rare one for an older character.
I posted this nostalgia dump elsewhere, being in a massive CN mood and all. I hope you don't mind if I share it here as well.
-Catching Toonami back when Moltar was the host. At the end of the day, TOM will always be the face of the block, but I remember enjoying the earlier days of Toonami, with Real Adventures of Jonny Quest, Thundercats, and Voltron, before the era started to integrate and change things with Sailor Moon and Dragon Ball Z. I honestly don't think these shows hold up much anymore, but it was a fun block to catch after coming home from school.
-It definitely became even better after TOM and Sara took over, though. The Intruder was a classic arc that helped to keep my memories of Toonami beyond it just being another block, while I loved the original Dragon Ball, Outlaw Star, and repeats of Batman: The Animated Series.
-Then there was when [adult swim] started its original Saturday night anime block. I was anticipating staying up to see "uncut" episodes of Outlaw Star and Tenchi along with some Gundam series that likely weren't coming to Toonami proper anytime soon, but my mother would only let me stay up for the first our. That's how I became exposed to Yu Yu Hakusho and InuYasha, which both became series that I loved. While I grew out of the latter by the time the original series ended, I absolutely loved the first arc of YYH, to the point that when Toonami picked the show up, I gladly watched it all over again. Little did I know that it would only get better from there, and it still stands among my very favorite anime.
-I was excited for Giant Robot Week, until it actually came and I lost interest fast. I distinctly remember watching a little bit of this one series they were showing, Neon Genesis Evangelion, which just wasn't doing anything for me. Years later, I gave it another chance, and the show became another favorite anime of mine. I also later became a fan of Martian Successor Nadesico and Macross, the first and most remembered arc from Robotech, which somehow eluded me during both Giant Robot Week and its earlier run on the block.
-Hamtaro is another series that I remember watching, although its airing was and still is controversial. In hindsight, the show didn't belong on Toonami at all (neither did The Powerpuff Girls for that matter, and some thoughts on that series is coming), but I still thought it was a cute show.
-It wasn't actually Toonami, but I remember the original Saturday night action block that aired. I would often try to sneak in to catch repeats of Batman: TAS at 2 am, but the big deal at the time was that Samurai Jack and Justice League started their runs on there. I liked Jack, but I remember being disappointed with Justice League's first few episodes, to the point that I dropped it around 3 or 4 hour-long episodes in. It wasn't until later that I saw bits and pieces of the show that I realized that it was rising up in quality after I dropped ship, to the point that I started collecting it on DVD. Those first few episodes are still pretty rough, and there are even weaker episodes later on in the first season, but it has enough good ones for me to completely justify my purchase. Now I really like the show.
-Later on, they did actually move the block to Saturday nights, and I wasn't crazy about it. A lot of the series they were running were long-running shonen, which fit better on a weekly basis for American audiences. If they had more 13 or 26 episode series like Toonami used to air, the move would have been better, but I was never that hot on it.
-Toonami's end days were becoming increasingly pitiful, in fact. In its last few weeks, it only consisted of- an hour of Naruto fillers, a series whose canon episodes already did little for me; rebroadcasts of the previous night's Ben 10: Alien Force premieres, which I wasn't interested in catching them as they aired; and repeats of Samurai Jack, which admittedly was a welcome return, but since I owned the first season, I saw little point in watching its airings.
-Although they did get into the second season near the block's end, which I still haven't bought (I only own the first and fourth season). I definitely came over to watch the last airing of Jack that Toonami had, in 2008. I just needed to see how the block ended, and it appropriately closed with a bang.
But who could forget the surprise return of Toonami on Saturday, April 1st 2012? I didn't find out it was happening until a few minutes into the Dragon Ball Z repeat (fair enough, since I don't care for Bleach anyway, which still had its premiere episode alongside TOM), but I stayed up until about 10 minutes into Blue Submarine No 6. I still haven't seen that in full, honestly. But they really did pull out the works for that night- an episode from the third Ryo-Ohki Tenchi Muyo! story arc, the original episode of Big O (a big deal, since [as] only owns the second season, partly funding it and all), an HD remaster of Yu Yu Hakusho, there was much to enjoy that night. I'm not a huge fan of the block as is right now, but I'll always keep that one night in my mind no matter what happens.
-Wow, a lot of Toonami memories as a starter. But when did I start watching Cartoon Network in general, and what was my first show on there? I can't tell you exactly, but I'm pretty sure it was some time in 1996, maybe 97 at the latest, and I have strong memories of Huckleberry Hound cartoons early on. So check those estimations out.
-I was already fairly well versed into the worlds of Fred Flintstone, George Jetson, that great dane, and above all else, the world-famous rabbit and duck. I instantly became thankful that this channel was a place to keep all of them, and many more characters that I would fall for, together. My favorite cartoons will always be the original Looney Tunes and Tex Avery's work for MGM, but my personal favorite Hanna-Barbera series is never not going to be the original Jonny Quest. I'll never tire of any of those.
-Dexter's Laboratory was already a bit into its run when I started watching, and I don't recall anything about the premiere of Johnny Bravo or Cow & Chicken. I definitely remember being there for the first episode of The Powerpuff Girls, though. As soon as the initial airing of "Monkey See, Doggie Do"/"Mommy Fearest", I said to myself that this was going to become the next big thing. Lo and behold, I was right. Instantly, I felt a bond between the girls, and wanted to see more of their adventures. Clearly, I wasn't the only one.
-And while I wasn't the only other Ed, Edd n' Eddy fan either, I didn't think it was possible that I could find someone who could like the show as much as I did, and still do. Even just seeing the original teaser that was shown around mid-1998, I just knew that that this was going to become my show. More than fifteen years after the show's premiere, and I still find new things to love about the show almost every day. And the series wasn't nearly as good then as it was about to become!
-The debut of Cartoon Cartoon Fridays was a big deal, since back then, the CN originals all had their premieres on separate nights. I remember Monday night was for the Eds, and Thursday for Powerpuff, but I sadly forget where Johnny and Cow & Chicken's were. Dexter had already finished its initial 52 episode run by that point, though. This block brought these 5 shows, plus I Am Weasel's introduction as a separate series, together on one awesome night.
-The original CCF block during the summer of 1999, was a little different from the most remembered one, from later in 99 to around 02 or 03. This had live-action hosts, similar to the later Fridays and Fried Dynamite blocks, but it was set up more like a telethon than a variety show, ala those. The other big deal of the earliest CCF broadcasts were that they gave out prizes all summer. I remember the very first one had Ed, Edd n' Eddy pool chairs, along with a bigger supply of Double D caps that they were giving out, but sadly I never got either one. Other prizes from that summer included an I Am Weasel chess set and a Supercow kite.
-Just before they started integrating the characters into the block as hosts, they showed these bumpers of a marching band with characters from the shows appearing in costumes. They were cute, but nothing can top seeing Mojo Jojo, Courage, and Blossom fighting about who was supposed to host that night!
-I remember that they were still using the marching band material when the next two CN originals premiered, Mike, Lu, & Og (which I mention first since it actually did air first, even though some people forget this) and Courage the Cowardly Dog, on the same night. I remember finding ML&O to be a cute series, and a welcome addition to the block, while Courage didn't do much for me, although I ended up seeing every episode of both as they aired on the network. Nowadays, my opinion has flipped, since I really appreciate Courage, but I'm surprised that I ever liked Mike, Lu, & Og.
-One cartoon that my opinion hasn't changed much on though, is Sheep in the Big City. I remember seeing the pilot during the Big Pick summer (which I'll get to in just a moment), but I missed the actual premiere, as that came out the same night as Rugrats in Paris, which I went to a screening of instead. Yes, I watched a little bit of Nickelodeon, too. But wow, when I did start watching Sheep regularly, I loved it to bits. I'm still hoping for a DVD release of it.
-Now while I wasn't there for the original What-a-Cartoon shorts, I was definitely watching CN during The Big Pick events. For the first one, I could just tell that this "Meet the Reaper" short would be the start of something big, so it didn't surprise me in the slightest that it was picked as the winner, and The Grim Adventures of Billy & Mandy (originally Grim & Evil, but who's counting ) would become a fan favorite for the network in the years to come. I voted for "A Kitty Bobo Show" the following year, but that only came in second to "No P in the OOL", the pilot to the future Codename: Kids Next Door. I wasn't a fan of the final outcome of the series, but I was always a fan of its pilot. And I remember that there wasn't any actual voting for 2002's Big Pick, but my favorite short was "Bagboy!". The winner ended up being "Lowbrow", aka Megas XLR, which was never a personal favorite, but I know many who were much more favorable towards the show, including a few people I'm especially close to.
-There are way too many ads, bumpers and promos to talk about or share during the Powerhouse era, but this is one (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9-tbI-yzPs) I have to share, despite not being very exciting. The grand variety of shows that used to air during primetime on CN, originals and classics of all sorts, is something I miss greatly today. I used to get in trouble for it, but I just HAD to stay up for the Bugs & Daffy slot at 9 PM.
-Then there was the 2000 Cartoon Election, where people voted for their favorite cartoons on the network. Scooby, who basically dominated the channel around the point, took the #1 slot, while The Powerpff Girls was second, and Bugs Bunny third. I'm pretty sure that Dexter's Laboratory was fourth, while The Flintstones, Ed, Edd n' Eddy (which I voted for), and Daffy Duck (which I should have also voted for, or only for in hindsight) made their way into the top 10 as well to my recollection.
-More voting came for the 2001 Fancy Anvil Awards, which I loved as a parody of award shows that actually did allow for people to vote and watch cartoons as a result, along with more character interaction ala CCF. I mostly stuck to the Ed boys and the Looneys for my votes.
-June Bugs! I miss their yearly celebration of Bugs Bunny. I'd watch a lot of it if they tried it again.
-Cartoon Network aired plenty of movies back in the day. A lot were based on some of their classics, with plenty of Scooby, Flintstone, Yogi, Looney, Jetson etc movies making their way, but there were some other good stuff to air. I remember liking Balto and Cats Don't Dance, but the important one for me was The Iron Giant, which I'm still kicking myself for not seeing in theaters. To be fair, I think the film flew past everyone's radar at the time, but CN seemed to have won a lot of people over. Around the time The Powerpuff Girls Movie was coming out (I didn't see that in theaters either, btw, but when I finally saw it... I thought it was okay), they aired marathon showing of the film for at least 24 hours straight. I must have seen it 2 or 3 times during that block. I'm still waiting for the Blu-Ray, now.
-Space Ghost Coast to Coast was a show that I kind of liked when I sneaked up to watch late at night, but it's one that I appreciate and enjoy a lot more now that I'm older. That said, I had to see this [adult swim] thing when I heard about it. Space Ghost was nice, but I wanted to watch these new shows, Harvey Birdman, Aqua Teen Hunger Force, Sealab 2021, and The Brak Show, as well as this one series that apparently wasn't new, Home Movies. I liked them all, probably because they were "naughty", but seeing them now, compared to the block's later shows and on their own, and I still enjoy them all, give or take Aqua Teen.
-Tex Avery's Screwy Squirrel cartoons were classics, but I'll never forget the day that they aired one particular short for hours on end. I may or may not have watched it a few times in a row, heh. Easily one of their best April Fools Day pranks.
-I was a bit older when Foster's Home for Imaginary Friends started its run, just about to start middle school, but I was there, and I liked it. I cooled down on the series since then, but as I was losing interest in CN's newer series as the years went by, Foster's was still a highlight. Still, that beginning movie is a good one, and I had a feeling that this would be a follow-up success for Craig McCracken.
-I missed CCF, but I still watched Fridays when it was on. My shows were leaving and I wasn't feeling all of their newer ones, but I had to be there for new EEnE, as well as the last seasons of Johnny Bravo and Powerpuff, and newer episodes of Billy & Mandy, Foster's, and Duck Dodgers. To be fair, Tommy and the girls were good hosts, too.
-The only thing I especially liked about Teen Titans was the theme song, which introduced me to J-Pop. It isn't really my thing, but I like Puffy, who were the biggest act at the time. A year later, they got their own show and it was... not very memorable. But I did like their soundtrack CD. I actually got it along with the first season of Samurai Jack as a gift from my aunt, but I couldn't tell you where it is.
-As much as I loved the Powerhouse era, I wasn't saddened when it phased into the City era. True, the bumpers weren't the same, and almost all of the classics had left for Boomerang by then, but there were plenty of brilliant bumpers and ads from that period, and I still liked enough of the shows to keep on watching.
-As the years went by though, my interest was waning, although Ed, Edd n' Eddy, Billy & Mandy, and Foster's still kept me happy. Class of 3000 and Juniper Lee were decent, and I saw enough of Camp Lazlo and My Gym Partner's a Monkey to know that they had some bearable material, but there was little in most of these and the other shows to keep older people interested, I'm sorry to say.
-But things were looking up again around 2008-09. Chowder caught me right away, while it took me a little to get into Flapjack, but before the first season was done, it won me over. I also thought that The Secret Saturdays was one of their best original action shows, and I got into the first couple of Total Drama cycles as well. All but Total Drama wouldn't make it too far past the start of the coming decade, though. Blame on the CN Real phase if you want, I guess.
-My main 3 shows from that period had even less time to go, though. Billy & Mandy ended its run with the Spider Queen movie in 2007, while Ed, Edd n' Eddy had to wait a while for its final episode and finale movie to make its way to the network, finally doing so in 2009. Foster's also wrapped up before the movie finally aired here.
-Ah, the Best Day Edder. CN aired every episode of the show before the season five finale, the show's penultimate episode, made its way to the screens. I watched that whole thing. It didn't hit me that my childhood favorite was ending until the unbearable wait for the movie to come hit. The "lost episode" which aired a year later, and was actually a leftover from the planned season 6 that was too far in production to wrap up, was strong, but the pain was still there. When it finally did air, Ed, Edd n' Eddy's Big Picture Show did not disappoint, however. My childhood officially ended when it came.
-But good things still happened to the kid at heart for me. Looney Tunes marathons! The shorts came back to CN proper! So did the odd repeats of Johnny Bravo, Dexter's Lab, Powerpuff Girls, and even The Flintstones and Jetsons! The 20th anniversary events! Heck, even 2 Stupid Dogs was brought back for a little while! Those were fun days.
-And just for the heck of it, I can tell you where and when I saw my first episode of Adventure Time- early in the summer of 2010, when I was in a hotel room in Orlando. My mother was away, so I had the TV to myself, and decided to finally try this thing out. "The Enchiridion!" was on, and while I've only recently become a bigger fan of the show, I started to understand why it was gaining popularity with seemingly all ages.
Dang, Avaitor. That is one pretty detailed retrospective on your history with the network, what it means to you, and all the fond memories you have about it! I enjoyed reading it. :)
Trying to organize my own memories on CN myself would take a bit of time, but you've made me want to try, so I might do it sometime later this weekend.
Another CN release is happening! (http://www.tvshowsondvd.com/news/Fosters-Home-Imaginary-Friends-Season-3/20421)
But it's for a show that I don't care for anymore. :P Although I actually still have the first season at home, somewhere. If the sales for this would give potential for more releases, like the rest of EEnE, Johnny, Dexter, and Billy & Mandy, I'd consider it, however.
that was an amazing retrospecive. you know i've always hated mike, lu and og and i have always loved courage. i believe i watched the pilot with my brothers and uncle. it was wonderfully creepy and is probably still my favorite episode. i am glad someone agrees with me about anime being shown every weekday. i had no clue megas had a pre-series pilot.
Season 3 of Foster's...mmm, that one was pretty hit and miss, and has a few of of what I feel are the "worst" episodes in the series in it. I do still actually like the show as a whole reasonably well, but I don't think I'll pick this up, especially since I don't even have the first two seasons in the first place.
The second is CRAZY hard to find, at least at a reasonable price.
And to be fair, I don't remember seeing it anywhere when that came out. Even with the Billy & Mandy set, which is also hard to find, I remember seeing a few copies at my Best Buy when I bought it. Foster's was MIA when I checked.
I recall seeing the second set around in a Barnes & Noble before, myself. Same with the B&M and the EEnE sets. In fact, I don't think I've ever actually seen those in another store besides B&N. :sweat:
I remember seeing some of the CN releases for $5 at Wal-Greens years ago. That's how I got season 2 of EEnE and Big Boogie Adventure.
I regret not getting the PPG Movie from there when it was around, because I can't find the DVD anymore.
Five years ago I would've bought this for sure. Now? Eh.
Quote from: Avaitor on October 28, 2014, 01:41:39 AM
The second is CRAZY hard to find, at least at a reasonable price.
Yeah it's like $50 on Amazon.....although that's actually
down from what I remember, it was around $70-80 a couple years ago back when I was actually looking for a copy.
Given this news, they could definitely stand to re-release it.
Lately, I've been watching Sheep in the Big City again. It really is a great show, one I wish was able to last longer and grow a bigger following, but it probably was too weird for your average kids. Still, it's the closest we have to the best of Jay Ward's talents after his passing.
I've also seen a little bit of Time Squad recently as well, and my opinion hasn't really changed on it since I was a kid. The show has some genuinely funny moments, when I can remember them. It's ultimately kind of forgettable.
Bumped into this on youtube and the nostalgia was way strong. :shakeshakeshake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60-etRy0dg8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=60-etRy0dg8) Still my favorite LT spinoff. And it almost makes me want to do a Greatest Cartoon Opening Tournament.
God, I love this thing. Tom Jones nailed it.
One of the best show openings ever!
Damn straight! :thumbup:
You know, a Greatest Cartoon Opening Tournament might not be a bad idea, actually....
He really did. Makes me proud that I liked both Fresh Prince and Duck dodgers so much. :D
Yeah, I didn't think a Cartoon version of OPs could stand up well but there are a decent amount of legit standouts. Your call... :thinkin:
I was checking out Cartoon Network's online shop, and noticed that they have a new label of sorts. (http://www.cartoonnetworkshop.com/category/whats+new/collector%27s+corner.do?promo=sliderCOLLECTORSCORNERhome) This is mostly geared towards their recent stuff, with Adventure Time, Regular Show, and a great-looking Steven Universe shirt, all designed by guest artists.
The reason I post this here is because there are also KND and Johnny Bravo shirts, actually designed by Tom Warburton and Van Partible. If you want to support the shows and the creators themselves, this seems like a pretty cool way. Plus, I really like the sketch of Johnny on his tee.
Today on his YouTube channel, Maxwell Atoms released his student short film pilot for Billy & Mandy.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVTyJ3Yecx0
EDIT: He provides a bit more insight (http://maxwellatoms.tumblr.com/post/143708192232/for-those-who-were-expecting-this-old-cel-to-be) on his Tumblr.
This might be a controversial post but I'm gonna put it out there anyway.
Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends is not a good show.
I've been catching some episodes on Boomerang, and I've been trying to enjoy it but can't. It comes down to the fact that there's no central purpose for the show. It's about a home for imaginary friends, okay. But then what? What is it supposed to do? Is it supposed to be a slice of life comedy? It doesn't really do that. Is it supposed to be a fantasy show where the characters get involved in crazy plots? No. Is it supposed to be about a boy and his friend and how they learn and grow together? If that was their goal it failed miserably. No, the show has no focus at all. The plots are mundane, tired, and don't form a coherent style at all. The pilot is actually nothing like what the show became.
And the humor is aggressively mean. You could point out things like the Bendy episode (which is crap), but that one is not out of joint with anything else the show does. Every episode features a character getting pointlessly dumped on, while everybody else is oblivious to it, and features an ending where said character is kicked when they're down. I'm not even exaggerating: if you can tell me one episode besides the pilot which isn't essentially centered on a character beatdown then I'll be utterly surprised. Foster's is about characters hating each other, and that's it. It's also not very funny.
What is strange about it is that if you look at the credits there is a lot of talent behind this show. Yet they wasted a great premise, interesting art style, and good voice actors, on Racist Dawg: The Series. Foster's only gets worse with age.
In conclusion, Foster's Home For Imaginary Friends is the definition of a miss. It's sloppy, unfocused, hateful, and offers nothing original outside its premise. It's going to go down as Craig McCracken's worst series, no question.
I used to hate in Foster back in the day. I found it very boring. I was willing to give it a try after seeing an episode I liked years later though.
There are a couple of Foster's episodes that work better than others, but I do agree that it's more mean-spirited than I originally recalled it as, with little purpose as to why.
I really liked the show when it was on, but I think I might have let the talent involved impress me more than anything else, since the show doesn't do much for me anymore.
Look at what I found! (http://web.archive.org/web/20020202071923/http://www.cartoonnetwork.com:80/doc/archive.html)
Storyboards, soundbites, backgrounds, so much cool stuff! Back when company-owned websites were a great outlet for this kind of content.
Holy shit! I remember D.O.C.
Nice find!
Wow, that's blast from the past! Great find! I got to spend an afternoon digging through this sometime.
Walmart has new editions of the first season sets of Powerpuff Girls, Ed, Edd n' Eddy, and Foster's Home. They have new cover art and they're only $10 each. I already own all of these, so I didn't double-dip, but it's worth noting if you haven't got any of these sets yet (although look for the complete PPG set instead if you can).
CN added an "Old School CN" video section on their website. It has classic episodes of various shows from the 90s and 2000s.
https://www.cartoonnetwork.com/video/old-school/index.html
Even The What-A-Cartoon Show is on here! :huh:
That looks like preparation for HBO Max, and it looks like these particular series (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_fuXX7XWKw&feature=emb_title) will be on there.
Beyond stoked for Ed, Edd n' Eddy to finally have a streaming home, as it hasn't had one since the long-ago days when Netflix had some CN shows. I just hope they have more than the first 2 seasons.
CN is bringing shows like Chowder and Regular Show to the weekday lineup. (https://twitter.com/RiseFallNickBck/status/1490877616521314307)
Its good that Cartoon Network is FINALLY putting in more variety into their lineup. :thumbup: Now if they could just stop airing live action movies and shows again..... :whuh:
+ OG Teen Titans and Ben 10 are airing weekend mornings.
It's cool, but I don't even have cable anymore.