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#21
The Telly / Re: Marvel Live Action
Last post by Dr. Ensatsu-ken - November 10, 2024, 09:38:48 PMWhile I didn't love it, Agatha was a surprisingly enjoyable show for the most part. Wandavision was more experimental with it's premise and still probably my favorite MCU show up to this point (which in and of itself isn't saying much, unfortunately), but Agatha was the first in a while to not feel like a chore to keep up with.
#22
The Telly / Re: Whatcha Bleedin' Watchin'?
Last post by Dr. Insomniac - November 10, 2024, 05:29:30 PMBut I get why His Dark Materials wasn't huge for HBO. Well out of their usual target demographic since it's for kids/teenagers. The source material itself had a pretty lame ending from what I remember. And the main impression I got from the reception was that it's like the Percy Jackson and Netflix ATLA shows, "Cool we can memoryhole the shitty movie adaptation. Although this one's just blander."
Which has me wondering how HBO hopes to pull off that Harry Potter TV show, since you can't memoryhole the movies. They lasted over a decade, adapted all the books instead of only a third to a half like Narnia, were liked by many critics, fans, and casual audiences when they came out, rerun all the time on TV, and are the visual basis for all those theme parks and tie-in games. I just don't see how you can successfully overhaul any of that instead of making a reboot people will watch for one season but then give up in favor of just rewatching the movies again. It'd be like if Amazon announced new TV adaptations of Fellowship, Two Towers, and Return of the King. Everyone would balk at that more than they did with Rings of Power.
And yeah, surprised about Alan Ball too, especially when none of his shows really have any staying power in pop culture. I remember The Onion made a joke in one of their videos that Six Feet Under had a dead prehistoric fandom, and that joke itself was ages back. Last time I can think of somebody referencing Six Feet Under was The Simpsons a while ago, and they're often late on the ball anyway. Like if you asked anybody what role they associate Michael C Hall with, how many of them will go "The uptight gay guy from Six Feet Under"?
While with Sopranos, I'm getting the sense that besides Edie Falco who's gone onto other things, or whenever Imperioli guest stars in something, all the surviving main cast members from that show are just going "Remember when we did The Sopranos?" at podcasts and interviews instead of anything else. Which is a shame, how that show had so many of the background extras become famous like Lady Gaga or Lin Manuel Miranda, but almost everyone else got typecast.
Which has me wondering how HBO hopes to pull off that Harry Potter TV show, since you can't memoryhole the movies. They lasted over a decade, adapted all the books instead of only a third to a half like Narnia, were liked by many critics, fans, and casual audiences when they came out, rerun all the time on TV, and are the visual basis for all those theme parks and tie-in games. I just don't see how you can successfully overhaul any of that instead of making a reboot people will watch for one season but then give up in favor of just rewatching the movies again. It'd be like if Amazon announced new TV adaptations of Fellowship, Two Towers, and Return of the King. Everyone would balk at that more than they did with Rings of Power.
And yeah, surprised about Alan Ball too, especially when none of his shows really have any staying power in pop culture. I remember The Onion made a joke in one of their videos that Six Feet Under had a dead prehistoric fandom, and that joke itself was ages back. Last time I can think of somebody referencing Six Feet Under was The Simpsons a while ago, and they're often late on the ball anyway. Like if you asked anybody what role they associate Michael C Hall with, how many of them will go "The uptight gay guy from Six Feet Under"?
While with Sopranos, I'm getting the sense that besides Edie Falco who's gone onto other things, or whenever Imperioli guest stars in something, all the surviving main cast members from that show are just going "Remember when we did The Sopranos?" at podcasts and interviews instead of anything else. Which is a shame, how that show had so many of the background extras become famous like Lady Gaga or Lin Manuel Miranda, but almost everyone else got typecast.
#23
The Telly / Re: Whatcha Bleedin' Watchin'?
Last post by Avaitor - November 10, 2024, 10:49:43 AMTrue, between the three Davids, Simon is the one with the most illustrious career for HBO. Both of Milch's post-Deadwood shows have been disasters and considering his Alzheimer's diagnosis, I doubt he'll be able to make anything else for them, while from what I've seen, Chase seems content on relying on his Sopranos legacy in his old age to the point that he keeps revealing every random detail about the show that he can aside from the Russian's fate. Apparently we're still getting the Tony B movie at some point.
Kind of surprising that Alan Ball is arguably the most lucrative of HBO's major showrunners, having both Six Feet Under and True Blood. I really should finish the former, still haven't seen the last season.
I wouldn't say My Brilliant Friend really gets that intense, although you'd think between the controversy behind how much of the books actually happened and their considerable popularity, it would be a bigger draw. But adapting successful books doesn't guarantee instant success for HBO, I guess- look at His Dark Materials.
Kind of surprising that Alan Ball is arguably the most lucrative of HBO's major showrunners, having both Six Feet Under and True Blood. I really should finish the former, still haven't seen the last season.
I wouldn't say My Brilliant Friend really gets that intense, although you'd think between the controversy behind how much of the books actually happened and their considerable popularity, it would be a bigger draw. But adapting successful books doesn't guarantee instant success for HBO, I guess- look at His Dark Materials.
#24
General Animation Discussion / Re: MeTV Toons
Last post by Avaitor - November 10, 2024, 10:35:39 AMIt's going to be a part of their Sunday Scooby block, where they air random parts of the franchise. They used to show movies and have recently aired Pup.
I wonder if this will be the latest show they'll air for now, or if Be Cool and Guess Who are also eligible.
I wonder if this will be the latest show they'll air for now, or if Be Cool and Guess Who are also eligible.
#25
The Telly / Re: Marvel Live Action
Last post by Dr. Insomniac - November 10, 2024, 03:20:13 AMOh yeah, watched a little of Agatha All Along because people were saying it was a very refreshing shift after some of the weaker MCU shows. And yeah, I liked it. Shouldn't be surprised since the Wandavision showrunner's on this, and that was the one that knew how to have fun instead of being a 6-hour MCU movie. Don't know if this Aubrey Plaza performance was better than her Legion one or not, which should be considered high praise since she was great in Legion.
#26
General Animation Discussion / Re: MeTV Toons
Last post by Dr. Insomniac - November 10, 2024, 01:56:54 AMOkay? Cool that it's on TV again, but seems way too recent. Like putting Modern Family on regular MeTV.
#27
General Animation Discussion / Re: MeTV Toons
Last post by Daikun - November 09, 2024, 05:18:43 PM #28
The Telly / Re: Whatcha Bleedin' Watchin'?
Last post by Dr. Insomniac - November 08, 2024, 03:04:13 PMKind of a shame that faith hasn't spread to other creators though. Like Carnivale never really got that chance. And while I recall critics weren't kind, a couple circles I'm into were pissed that Time Traveler's Wife never got a second season.
I guess HBO execs have an exemplary working relationship with Simon, despite the fact he can be pretty challenging when you see him on social media and in interviews. In contrast to David Chase who expressed an interest in working on many other things after The Sopranos ended, but ever since then, all he's made is a rock band movie that critics and casual audiences didn't take to, Sopranos Babies, and a bunch of retrospectives about the making of Sopranos. I don't know what happened there, but something bad must have occurred if the creator of one of the most critically acclaimed shows of all time struggles to get non-spinoff material made. In an environment where his contemporaries, who almost all happen to be named David, easily can.
And My Brilliant Friend, I read the first book and thought it was okay. I think the reason critics haven't gushed about the series is because unless something crazy happened in the later books, it's not as scandalous as the usual show in the HBO house style. Yeah, there's plenty of drama, but not like to the level of what you often get from HBO. And the fact that it's a subtitled coming of age program about two girls in the 50s means it doesn't have the sensational appeal that other subbed live-action shows like Dark or Squid Game achieved. Or even Babylon Berlin. I watched the first season of that earlier this year and thought it was pretty fun, while I saw a couple My Brilliant Friend episodes and was mostly bored.
I guess HBO execs have an exemplary working relationship with Simon, despite the fact he can be pretty challenging when you see him on social media and in interviews. In contrast to David Chase who expressed an interest in working on many other things after The Sopranos ended, but ever since then, all he's made is a rock band movie that critics and casual audiences didn't take to, Sopranos Babies, and a bunch of retrospectives about the making of Sopranos. I don't know what happened there, but something bad must have occurred if the creator of one of the most critically acclaimed shows of all time struggles to get non-spinoff material made. In an environment where his contemporaries, who almost all happen to be named David, easily can.
And My Brilliant Friend, I read the first book and thought it was okay. I think the reason critics haven't gushed about the series is because unless something crazy happened in the later books, it's not as scandalous as the usual show in the HBO house style. Yeah, there's plenty of drama, but not like to the level of what you often get from HBO. And the fact that it's a subtitled coming of age program about two girls in the 50s means it doesn't have the sensational appeal that other subbed live-action shows like Dark or Squid Game achieved. Or even Babylon Berlin. I watched the first season of that earlier this year and thought it was pretty fun, while I saw a couple My Brilliant Friend episodes and was mostly bored.
#29
The Telly / Re: Whatcha Bleedin' Watchin'?
Last post by Avaitor - November 08, 2024, 12:19:26 PMIt's pretty nice that Simon hasn't made a massive hit (even The Wire always trailed Sopranos, Six Feet Under and even Deadwood, and it only got to outlast the latter due to its massive budget), but they keep letting him make whatever he wants, and it's usually pretty good even if the ratings and awards are never there.
Speaking of HBO, I really should get to the last season of My Brilliant Friend. Critics seemed to have basically forgotten the series, which is partly why I haven't got around to playing catch up yet.
Speaking of HBO, I really should get to the last season of My Brilliant Friend. Critics seemed to have basically forgotten the series, which is partly why I haven't got around to playing catch up yet.
#30
The Telly / Re: DC Live Action
Last post by Dr. Insomniac - November 08, 2024, 05:28:25 AMQuote from: Avaitor on November 07, 2024, 01:48:27 PMI'm finally catching up to Penguin and I am enjoying it, as well. This isn't really the character I'm used to, but his intellect is still there. The main appeal for me, however, is probably Cristin Milioti, who keeps proving her range. Glad to see she survived cancer and Ted Mosby.Yeah, it's cool they all left him and found other paths in life. Robin became a SHIELD agent (RIP). Lily got a gig as Penn and Teller's host. Marshall was hired as a therapist. And Barney almost killed the 14th Doctor and Donna.