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[Dr. Insomniac]

Yeah, PG-13 seems fitting for Daredevil. It didn't have much I wouldn't show to teenagers.

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That seems like a good video, I'll watch it soon.

Maybe I'm out of touch when it comes to movie ratings (as I hardly pay attention to them anymore), but I'm not sure this scene would fly in a PG-13, even today: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cEW53_5donY&t=18s Obviously it's nothing compared to Game of Thrones, but then again neither are most NC-17 films.

[Dr. Ensatsu-ken]

I had considered that scene, but while it is definitely violent, it's in a darkly lit area and you barely see any blood. I personally feel that it could count as "hard PG-13" rather than straight-up "R" material, myself. Personally I find the car door scene to be more disturbing, and once again that's still more implied violence rather than directly shown.

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I think maybe 20 years ago the car door bit could have gotten an R rating, but yeah, it's not particularly explicit despite the shocking-ness, so I guess it wouldn't today.

To be fair, I almost never watch modern PG-13 movies unless they're Marvel or James Bond, so I don't really know what kind of stuff can fly in them these days. DD just seemed a lot more brutal to me than, say, The Avengers. Though I guess it wasn't too much worse than Casino Royale, and that was almost a decade ago.

[Dr. Ensatsu-ken]

The original Star Wars featured a scene with an arm getting severed and blood leaking out, and TESB had a scene where Han Solo slices open a creature and has Luke covered in its entrails to keep him from freezing to death. Indiana Jones has a scene where Nazis get their faces melted off. Poltergeist has a scene where a guy hallucinates ripping his face off. Beetlegeuce has way too much bizarre and fucked-up imagery to keep track of, and Michael Keaton quite clearly drops an F-bomb in one infamous line of the film.

Guess what all of those movies have in common?

It's not that movies today would get a harsher rating twenty years ago. It's the other way around, actually. Censorship has actually gotten worse for PG and PG-13 movies over the years. None of those movies that I mentioned could even dream of getting away with a PG rating if they came out today and didn't heavily edit those scenes to tone them down. On the flip side, movies like The Lord of the Rings and The Avengers would have easily been PG had they come out in the 80's or early 90's.

[Foggle]

You're right that censorship has gotten worse overall, but for some reason my brain always defaults to how Evil Dead 2 was apparently so "shocking" that it got banned in some countries and received an NC-17 in the US, when it could have easily gotten a PG-13 today.

[gunswordfist]

I assume Leland's son will become The Owl to try and crush Fisk for what he did to his father. Tombstone would obviously fill in the void left by the crime lords and the other two are just obvious street level threats that would threaten Daredevil more directly. Honestly, I don't see any other Daredevil villains outside The Hand and these really fitting into the tone of this show, and The Hand could very well still be involved sending assassins like Ikari after him.

Elektra and Bullseye make a lot of sense, but they're a bit too important to Daredevil to be on the sidelines this soon into the game. Though I guess they can be introduced, yet more as side/background characters for now.

Whoops, I missed you said Season 3. Looks like we agree there on Elektra and Bullseye.

Tombstone is a Daredevil enemy, right? I just know him from the Spider-Man cartoon, lol. Too bad they can no longer use the Urich angle with him. 

I think maybe 20 years ago the car door bit could have gotten an R rating, but yeah, it's not particularly explicit despite the shocking-ness, so I guess it wouldn't today.

To be fair, I almost never watch modern PG-13 movies unless they're Marvel or James Bond, so I don't really know what kind of stuff can fly in them these days. DD just seemed a lot more brutal to me than, say, The Avengers. Though I guess it wasn't too much worse than Casino Royale, and that was almost a decade ago.

This. I think I'm just comparing the show with other PG-13 movies when I think the show would be "R" territory.

And in what why would they not consider LOTR a PG movie? lol I also remember Goldeneye being PG, which is shocking compared to how they rated movies afterwards.

[Spark Of Spirit]

Tombstone is a Daredevil enemy and one of the crime boss supervillains of Marvel like Kingpin and Silvermane. But Tombstone is the next best thing to have with Wilson Fisk in jail.

His power would also be quite difficult for both Daredevil and Punisher to overcome, too. I'm certain next season will have a few more dangerous street level powers like his and Typhoid Mary's are.

[gunswordfist]

Silvermane...sounds like another familiar face from the 90s Spidey cartoon. lol

I wonder how they'll handle supervillains in this show.

[Spark Of Spirit]

You should check out Tombstone's appearances on Spectacular Spiderman. If he's even half as good on Daredevil as he is in that show, it would be interesting.

[gunswordfist]

  I'll consider the following.

[gunswordfist]

[gunswordfist]

http://www.comicvine.com/articles/season-2-of-daredevil-will-be-daredevil-vs-the-pun/1100-152740/

[gunswordfist]

I'm a bit late but http://www.comicvine.com/articles/marvel-announces-elodie-yung-to-play-elektra-in-da/1100-152837/

[Spark Of Spirit]

Now I await Bullseye and we should be on our way.

In other news, Marvel still hasn't cracked Iron Fist yet. Is that really so hard to just use the Brubaker comics and old kung-fu movies as a source? That's really what people want to see.