Sonic The Hedgehog

[Foggle]

The game is actually $10 cheaper than most new games for some reason.

That's good. I may change my tune once I find out how different from their original incarnations and how expansive each level is.

Also, there is no Sonic 3 level. Casino Night is in Sonic 2. Sonic 3 & Knuckles is represented by one stage, which is lame. Hydrocity, Ice Cap, Flying Battery, Lava Reef, and Death Egg need to be in this.

Ah, my bad, you're right. That makes it even more ridiculous, then! Sega could at least nickel and dime us with a promised feature (they said there'd be some representation from each Sonic game; 3 and Knuckles are separate games even if they were combined after release).

[Spark Of Spirit]

I was disappointed with the list until I saw the DLC zones thing. Since I already preordered at EB/Gamestop I'm getting Casino Night regardless, but it does leave me hopeful for other zones to come. Sky Deck, Kingdom Valley, Pyramid Cave, Quartz Quadrant, Lava Reef, Hydrocity (The best water level ever), and whatever else they throw at us would be highly welcome to me.

Also, Planet Wisp was my favorite zone in Colors! I would have been disappointed if we got Tropical Resort or Asteroid Coaster over it, and the zone does have some untapped potential.   

[Spark Of Spirit]

Oh, by the way, the leaked screenshots from the demo seem to confirm that Seaside Hill seems to actually be Ocean Palace from Heroes, which is a much more unique looking stage. Not sure why they called it Seaside Hill, though.

[gunswordfist]

I beat the Sonic Generations demo a few minutes ago. Had my little brother watch my play it. When I first started and saw the graphics, I went into trying to do the homing attack mode. lol Then after that it felt like old school Sonic without me even noticing. I forgot to check that out because I was too busy being immersed. I liked how the fake loop de loops and twists in the old Sonics are actually 3D. Nice touch. Only thing missing was a look up and down. It's too bad that they only had the 2D segment but I already knew that.

Also, they say this demo is 19 days. I wonder if I can disconnect from live and keep the demo. Hmmmm.

Edit: I loved the hell out of the remixed music. I kept on humming it. Nothing gives me more nostalgia than Green Hill theme

[gunswordfist]

Today is Sonic's 20th birthday, guys. The Sonic Generation demo is out there, and you need to play it.

Also, the demo has been hacked and all this info was found:




*spoiler*

Level list
Green Hill Zone
Chemical Plant Zone
Sky Sanctuary Zone
Speed Highway
City Escape
Seaside Hill
Crisis City
Rooftop Run
Planet Wisp

DLC
Casino Night Zone


Boss fights
Metal Sonic
Shadow
Silver
"Death Egg"
Perfect Chaos
Egg Dragoon
Boss LastBoss(TimeEater) (That's just what the file calls it.)


*spoiler*

Ugh, why is Casino Night DLC? Why no Ice Cap or Hydrocity? Why only one level from each Sonic trilogy game? Seriously, no Death Egg? What?

[Spark Of Spirit]

Death Egg is there, but it's a "boss" somehow.

I'm hoping they just make it a stage based on the S&K version and then you fight the core at the end, blowing the fucker up.

The only level I really don't want (Since Seaside Hill looks to actually be Ocean Palace) is Crisis City because it's a very boring trope and level that represents "grimdark" Sonic. If they wanted an 06 stage they should have picked Kingdom Valley since it's unique enough to not be lame.

And fuck it for being a fire based stage while leaving out Lava Reef, AKA the best fire stage in the series.

[gunswordfist]

That sucks.

I would prefer them to do a multistage version of Death Egg from Sonic 2 because of the better music and atmosphere.

And ohhhhhhhhh, just realized that without Lava Reef, no remake of the boss Sonic boss ever. fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck They could have adding in some horizontal platforming and some stretches of land for speed to make it completely perfect.

[Avaitor]

That's a pretty paltry selection. There's a couple of fine choices, but disappointing overall.

I do like the idea of DLC, though. Promises that maybe some of our favorites can make it in.

[Spark Of Spirit]

Pure weirdness

Gotta love Sonic's crazy fanbase... Sometimes.

[Spark Of Spirit]

Watch a crappy player play Chemical Plant and City Escape in Generations!

It's mostly Classic gameplay, but I did see a few branching paths in the little Modern footage there was.

[Kiddington]

Wow! Looks great in motion; quite beautiful, I must say.

Hopefully though, future videos will spotlight more on original gameplay, instead of the sectional ports from these classic levels (I already know these stages like the back of my hand, so there's not much to really see). That, and hopefully the next person who plays this doesn't suck as much as this guy. I mean, dammmmmnnnnn; that video really had a tendency to drag.

[Kiddington]

Welp... it finally happened; caught my first glimpse of Sonic Colors in the bargain bins the other day. Among the paltry used offerings of Ubisoft shovelware on Big Lots mediocre game rack, there it sat; two used boxes, priced at $18.88 exactly.

The only reaction I could conjure up was a definite "WTF?". I thought this was supposed to be a good Sonic title... yet here we are, not even a year later, and it's already been marked down to this kind of degree. Either Big Lots just has the lions share of the market on used Sonic titles (they also had Rush, Secret Rings, Black Knight, and Sega Racing), or the value of this game has already bottomed out at such a low. It's... kind of a shame, really.

I didn't buy it, by the way. For only $20, I considered it... but I only went there to get a few things, and I wasn't prepared for a more expensive trip at the time. So yeah.

[Spark Of Spirit]

It actually sold well, too, so I'm not sure why it is in the bargain bin almost a year later except that most Sega games seem to in general.

For comparisons sake, Unleashed (both versions), Black Knight, and Secret Rings were in the bargain bin with half a year. So at least this one has taken longer.

And it's totally good. Best 3D Sonic no question.

[Kiddington]

Yeah, but those games suck. It comes as no surprise that they would end up in the bargain bins so quickly, on account of the obvious lack of quality (have you ever played Black Knight? Awful, awful, AWFUL game; makes S06 look like an arthouse masterpiece).

It just doesn't make sense to me that a Sonic title with good reviews is already approaching dollar bin status in today's Wii market, while fucking Mario Party 8 still costs $50. Even Walmart knocked a good chunk off of the original price (seen it today for $29.99, BRAND NEW). I dunno, I guess I'm just disappointed in seeing what is supposedly a good Sonic game being associated with such crap already. I mean, come on; it hasn't even been a year. By all accounts, it deserves far better than being classed with garbage like Black Knight or Secret Rings anyway.

Ah well. With all this being said, I really should buy it now. All things considered, I shouldn't be complaining about saving an extra $20 anyway; this price drop is a GOOD thing for my budget. I've been wanting to play it for a while, but alas, could never bring myself to do a weekend rental. Now that it's affordable, I'd say it's time.

[Rynnec]

I actually quite enjoyed Black Knight. And think that people tend to overexaggerate its flaws way too much. (Then again, that's nothing new.) It's not anything to write home about, but I did enjoy it far more than I did Unleashed (which I have yet to finish). The excellent music, and the fact that it has the best portrayal of Sonic's character yet, are definite pluses.

It was also one of the few games where the 4Kids cast actually sounded decent.