Things That Bother You About Gaming

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You guys do realize that HD remasters are ports and not actually remakes, right? Granted, they had to recreate a lot of the art assets for X, but a full-on remake would require exponentially more time, money, and effort that could be better spent on making new games.

Remember when Microsoft used to make 3D platformers? Pepperidge Farm does: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm-JPvFGIaA

I always wanted to play this game. Too bad it doesn't work on the 360.

[talonmalon333]

Yeah, I'm not sure what this discussion was about.

I think Square stated that making a VII remake on the scale of FFXIII would be difficult because it would require far more money considering the content of the game, in that it is not corridor-based. They are basically admitting that XIII was a weak game and therefore wasn't overly expensive.

[Spark Of Spirit]

They are basically admitting that XIII was a weak game and therefore wasn't overly expensive.

Ding ding ding.

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The conversation was about Square being cheap, all along!

Remember when Microsoft used to make 3D platformers? Pepperidge Farm does: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sm-JPvFGIaA

I always wanted to play this game. Too bad it doesn't work on the 360.

I've been interested in it since I saw it on G4 generations ago. I was surprised to see that a Microsoft studio made it. This was before shooters dominated the market and at the tale end of the 3D mascot platformer generation, apparently. The game reminds me of a lot of N64 and PS1 platformers.

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I think Square stated that making a VII remake on the scale of FFXIII would be difficult because it would require far more money considering the content of the game, in that it is not corridor-based. They are basically admitting that XIII was a weak game and therefore wasn't overly expensive.

It cost 65 million dollars to make. While they may be admitting that FF13 was more linear than previous entries, it was still one of the most expensive games ever developed. You're dreaming if you think anyone would willingly spend 100+ million on a remake of something that most people still consider to be perfectly fine. I would hardly call that being cheap.

[Spark Of Spirit]

That doesn't say much at all for FFXIII's game design.

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Exactly, great graphics don't magically make a game better, so it would be a waste to drop that much cash on what would essentially be a 1:1 remake. REmake, Zero Mission, Black Mesa, etc. are excellent because they do a lot more than just update the graphics. By nature of being a turn-based RPG, an FF7 remake would - more likely than not - add nothing of value beyond improved visuals and full voice acting. That's not worth $100 million.

[talonmalon333]

I said nothing about them being cheap. I was just pointing out that they basically admitted that VII is better.

Also, I think Square would be printing money if they remade FFVII.

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Ok, now I'm just confused.

[talonmalon333]

Just take deep breaths, GSF.

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Also, I think Square would be printing money if they remade FFVII.

It's a lot more viable now, I think. So maybe they will someday.

Just take deep breaths, GSF.

[talonmalon333]

I think they said they would only consider remaking FFVII if they made a game that surpasses it... yeah.

[Spark Of Spirit]

Ok, now I'm just confused.

If they made both Final Fantasy VII and XIII now at the same time in the same engine, FFVII would cost considerably more to make. Which means FFXIII is not as in depth or complex of a game as FFVII is.

In other words, FFXIII continues to be a laughing stock.

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Gotcha. And go to Hell, please, talon.

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I think they said they would only consider remaking FFVII if they made a game that surpasses it... yeah.

But they already did. They were called FF 4, 5, 6, 9, Crisis Core, and Type-0.