The Death (& Return?) Of Capcom

[Rynnec]

Looks like Capcom's finally doing something smart...kind of

However, there's something rather worrying in the article:

[2003] Devil May Cry 2 (PS2) ? 1.7 million

[2005] Devil May Cry 3 (PS2) ? 1.3 million

[Eddy]

I can believe those RE6 predictions. Especially with how well RE5 sold. Even if a lot of people didn't like RE5 the name Resident Evil is going to carry it to success. Hell, Operation: Raccoon City sold two million copies and nobody even likes that game.

I think they're dreaming with those Dragon's Dogma and Lost Planet 3 predictions though.

[Foggle]

Those DMC sales make sense. 2 was so bad that it made a lot of people lose faith in Capcom's abilities, so 3 was bound to sell less copies no matter how good it was.

[Rynnec]

Looking from it at that angle, that actually makes a lot of sense. Conversely, the quality of 3 is probably what led to sales of 4 being so high.

The reason it puzzled me at first is because 3 was part of the PS2's "Greatest Hits" label, so I assumed it was the best selling one until 4 came along.

[Dr. Ensatsu-ken]

I also believe that many reviews stated how balls-out-hard the original version of DMC3 was (where we got Japan's hard mode as our normal mode) and that may have turned many people away from the game who would've otherwise bought it. That said, the general quality of that game and the fairly positive reviews of DMC4 probably helped lead to that game's success. That, and it was multiplatform, which probably had a lot to do with its increased sales, seeing as how the first 3 DMC games were only available on the PS2 at that time.

[Spark Of Spirit]

Looking from it at that angle, that actually makes a lot of sense. Conversely, the quality of 3 is probably what led to sales of 4 being so high.

The reason it puzzled me at first is because 3 was part of the PS2's "Greatest Hits" label, so I assumed it was the best selling one until 4 came along.

It happens all the time with sequels, it seems.

Final Fantasy VII - High selling
Final Fantasy VIII - Record breaking debut
Final Fantasy IX - Low debut
Final Fantasy X - High debut

Metal Gear Solid - High selling
Metal Gear Solid 2 - Record breaking debut
Metal Gear Solid 3 - Low debut
Metal Gear Solid 4 - High debut


Fans are more willing to jump in if the previous entry was well loved by them.

[gunswordfist]

I thought MGS2 didn't sell well (apparently because of the story/Raiden)

[Spark Of Spirit]

I thought MGS2 didn't sell well (apparently because of the story/Raiden)

It debuted huge. The bait and switch hurt it tremendously and the series never recovered in popularity.

I'm not kidding, MGS was GIGANTIC when Solid came out- we're talking movie deals and the like. 2 basically killed it and relegated the series to niche. It's partially why I'm always so hard on Kojima.

[Foggle]

I thought MGS2 didn't sell well (apparently because of the story/Raiden)

It debuted huge. The bait and switch hurt it tremendously and the series never recovered in popularity.

I'm not kidding, MGS was GIGANTIC when Solid came out- we're talking movie deals and the like. 2 basically killed it and relegated the series to niche. It's partially why I'm always so hard on Kojima.

I thought MGS 4 did gangbusters?

[Spark Of Spirit]

I thought MGS2 didn't sell well (apparently because of the story/Raiden)

It debuted huge. The bait and switch hurt it tremendously and the series never recovered in popularity.

I'm not kidding, MGS was GIGANTIC when Solid came out- we're talking movie deals and the like. 2 basically killed it and relegated the series to niche. It's partially why I'm always so hard on Kojima.

I thought MGS 4 did gangbusters?

You don't really understand how huge MGS1 was, though. MGS4 was a high selling game relegated to the bargain bin within a year, MGS1 was raved about even in the mainstream shown on TV reports and the like- there were even movie rumors around the time George Romero handed out his Resident Evil script. It had mainstream penetration like Final Fantasy VII or Tomb Raider. Nobody in the mainstream even batted an eye when MGS4 came and left.

[Foggle]

I know all that, but I always thought MGS 4 put the series back in the spotlight, what with all the 10/10 reviews and such when it was first released.

[Spark Of Spirit]

I know all that, but I always thought MGS 4 that put the series back in the spotlight, what with all the 10/10 reviews and such when it was first released.

Maybe when it came to the gaming audience, but 3 kind of already did that. It's just that it never recovered the level of popularity it had with MGS1 which was a whole other level.

And honestly, I see a lot of backlash on 4 these days. It seems very divisive.

[Foggle]

And honestly, I see a lot of backlash on 4 these days. It seems very divisive.

Well, the story is extremely stupid (on purpose, I think) and the cutscenes are filled with a bunch of subtle instances of Kojima making fun of his "fans" for only caring about Metal Gear and nothing else. The gameplay itself is excellent, but there's less of it than there are cinematics...

[gunswordfist]

And all the cutscenes can be skipped. And the series was supposedly supposed to end with two AKA blame the fans.

[Foggle]

And all the cutscenes can be skipped.

I actually enjoy most of them. Just saying that there are too many.