Unpopular Opinions You Hold About Animation

[Dr. Ensatsu-ken]

Does Batman Beyond even count as a comic book adaptation, though? Its more like a spin-off sequel to BTAS, but I suppose you could say that its technically still an adaptation since it features Bruce Wayne in it.

[Avaitor]

It has Bruce Wayne, it has Barbara Gordon, and it has some of Batman's rogue gallery left in it. I'm counting it.

[gunswordfist]

Eww at TMNT 2K3 above Batman Beyond.

[SSJ Jake]

I might get flack for this but...I liked Hotel Transylvania. Yes it wasn't very clever, original and definitely not some of Tartokovski's (sp?) best material (it doesn't help that the film wasn't originally his creation and switched from director to director). I'm pretty sure the world is getting sick of seeing, along with Jim Carrey and Will Ferrel, Adam Sandler. So why do I like it? It has in my opinion great animation and some laughs for me here and there. I also liked seeing for once no real villain, the closest being Quasimodo who's more or less an eccentric cook with violent outbursts. I like villains and everything, don't get me wrong, but it seems like almost every animated film pushes the need for a villain, which can either lead to them being awesome (Gaston) or very lame (Clayton). For once, at least for me, it was refreshing to see a change of pace.

[Goldstar]

I might get flack for this but...I liked Hotel Transylvania. Yes it wasn't very clever, original and definitely not some of Tartokovski's (sp?) best material (it doesn't help that the film wasn't originally his creation and switched from director to director). I'm pretty sure the world is getting sick of seeing, along with Jim Carrey and Will Ferrel, Adam Sandler. So why do I like it? It has in my opinion great animation and some laughs for me here and there. I also liked seeing for once no real villain, the closest being Quasimodo who's more or less an eccentric cook with violent outbursts. I like villains and everything, don't get me wrong, but it seems like almost every animated film pushes the need for a villain, which can either lead to them being awesome (Gaston) or very lame (Clayton). For once, at least for me, it was refreshing to see a change of pace.

I haven't got around to seeing Hotel Transylvania yet, but I agree with the part that I bolded. This is also what I've said about comedy cartoons like Littlest Pet Shop on The Hub, and how no real villain would have been an improvement over The Biskitt Twins, who are pretty lame antagonists (IMO), since they have no reason to actually hate Blythe. Their sole reason for disliking Blythe is because she doesn't worship them, but a lot of other characters on the show don't worship the Biskitts, and they don't antagonize them, so that's a pretty lame villain motivation, overall.

A well written show doesn't need to have regular or recurring antagonists, which is not to say that a well written antagonist who has an actual reason to stand against the hero(es) isn't an awesome thing to behold.

[Avaitor]

Pretty much everyone who's seen Hotel Transylvania, whether they like it or not, seem to agree that the animation is very creative, in both a classic and contemporary way. I haven't seen it and honestly don't have much interest, but it doesn't sound that bad.

[gunswordfist]

I don't think The Flintstones gets enough love here. I think just about everytime I watch some of an episode these days, I end up loving the series a little bit more. It's funny because as a kid I didn't like it that much which makes The Flintstones probably the only cartoon I didn't really like as a child but do as an adult. I think I was pretty good at gauging cartoons' quality as a kid. Anyway, I think The Flintstones is the one HB classic that shouldn't be called overrated.

[Silverstar]

I would never call The Flintstones overrated; it was a trailblazing series which helped make Hanna-Barbera Studios a household name and managed to stay in the public eye in some way, shape or from to this very day, so there's no denying its' success or place within the animation lexicon. Having said that, while I didn't and still don't hate The Flintstones, the franchise was just never a favorite of mine. Again, don't hate it, but there are at least a dozen other cartoons I'd place above it in my personal tops list. Once one gets past the basics: that Flintstones was a) The Honeymooners in animated form and b) illustrated radio, there wasn't that much that appealed to me. Part of my indifference to The Flintstones is that I could never get into the basic "modern Stone Age family" shtick: my feeling is that if you're modernize things that much, then you might as well set the show in the present day. If I tune in to a show about cavemen, I want to see them living and acting like, well, cavemen: with tribes, rituals, discovering stuff for the first time, hunting, gathering, evading predators, etc. The rock puns and use of animals in place of tools and appliances was good for a mild chuckle, but it kind of got old again and again. Not to mention the way they constantly had Christmas themed episodes and specials which took place millions of years before the birth of Jesus.  Something like, say, The Croods is probably closer to my ideal caveman comedy.


The show in its' prime was pretty well-written, and as a kid it was an amusing way to kill a half-hour without much complaint, but the repetitive nature of the situations and the incongruity of the basic premise was just hard for me to get behind, I guess.

[gunswordfist]

Foster is one of the most absolute boring cartoons ever made. Pretty much started the dark age of CN for me.

You know, we used to argue about this on tv.com a bit, but I agree with you now to an extent. I can't stand the show anymore.
[/quote]  I fucked up the quote (I was talking to Avaitor here) but anyway, I watched a bit of an episode of Foster with my baby brother a few months ago and got a good few laughs out of it. That slightly upgrades my opinion of the show from 'Pac-Man ghost runs around house while flailing arms' 

[Avaitor]

Heh, do you remember what that episode is about?

[gunswordfist]

I THINK it was the episode where the main kid tries to be cool. Heck, I might rewatch that one just to be sure.

[Avaitor]

Man, while watching some of Rocko again, I think I'll forever be stuck with the conclusion that SpongeBob is a poor man's RML. Better than most, but still wholly inferior.

[Silverstar]

I still contend that Rocko's Modern Life is THE single greatest thing Nickelodeon has put on the air, ever.

[talonmalon333]

Still think SpongeBob is better.

[Dr. Insomniac]

Still think SpongeBob is better.

Now, that's an unpopular opinion.