A Tribute To The Wii

Started by Spark Of Spirit, January 24, 2012, 06:05:55 PM

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Spark Of Spirit

Quote from: Foggle on January 25, 2012, 03:52:26 PM
Quote from: talonmalon333 on January 25, 2012, 02:03:44 PM
Quote from: Foggle on January 25, 2012, 11:23:40 AMNew Super Mario Bros. Wii and Skyward Sword are quite possibly the best in their respective franchises, which is no small feat. 

I can understand SS, but NSMBW? How come?
Because it takes the original 2D Mario formula and nearly perfects it, with great level design and excellent difficulty. Plus it has 4 player co-op.
And I don't care what anyone says, the Propeller Suit is the best flying power up in the series for not being spammable and shaking the controller for extra jump height is something anyone who ever played a game as a kid should really appreciate.

Really, people talk smack about the art style in it, but everything else in the game is Grade-A Nintendo quality.
"The world will never starve for want of wonders, but for want of wonder." - G.K. Chesterton

talonmalon333

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on January 25, 2012, 04:03:41 PM
Quote from: Foggle on January 25, 2012, 03:52:26 PM
Quote from: talonmalon333 on January 25, 2012, 02:03:44 PM
Quote from: Foggle on January 25, 2012, 11:23:40 AMNew Super Mario Bros. Wii and Skyward Sword are quite possibly the best in their respective franchises, which is no small feat. 

I can understand SS, but NSMBW? How come?
Because it takes the original 2D Mario formula and nearly perfects it, with great level design and excellent difficulty. Plus it has 4 player co-op.
And I don't care what anyone says, the Propeller Suit is the best flying power up in the series for not being spammable and shaking the controller for extra jump height is something anyone who ever played a game as a kid should really appreciate.

Really, people talk smack about the art style in it, but everything else in the game is Grade-A Nintendo quality.

The art style? What could be wrong with it? :-\

Commode

A lot of people complain about the art style of the game.  I'm not exactly sure what it is, I think that people just think the designs are too "stock" or something.
It doesn't matter what you say, soon you'll be dead anyway.

Spark Of Spirit

Yeah, they consider it boring or whatever. I personally think it's fine.
"The world will never starve for want of wonders, but for want of wonder." - G.K. Chesterton

Dr. Ensatsu-ken

The art style is a throw-back to the classic 2D Mario art-style from the NES/SNES since this game is a throw-back to classic 2D Mario except with the option of up to 4-player co-op. The art style fits that perfectly fine. I have no idea what people are complaining about when it comes to that, but I notice that gamers these days have a tendency to complain about everything. Its something that really fucking annoys me, especially when their complaints are on the most trivial of things, or in other cases just feels like complaining for the sake of complaining.

Anyways, I think the Wii is the best console from any console in either this gen or the previous gen when it comes to single-player games (basically its the best, to me, since the Sega Dreamcast). Its just that much like the Dreamcast, a lot of the Wii's great titles which don't have the luxury of being part of an already hugely popular and successful franchise like Mario or Zelda end up doing poorly in sales and basically just become niche titles that only the more core gamers end up playing or even hearing about. Its really a shame, because most good Wii titles offer FAR more content, creativity, and gameplay depth than the most highly praised AAA games to be released on HD consoles. I mean, just compare the amount of content that you get in the single-player for a game like NSMBW to that of the campaign mode of any Uncharted game. Hell, even if you combined the campaign modes of all 3 games, I still doubt it would add up to offer as much play-time and replay value as NSMBW.

Honestly, most of the good games on the Wii are good because they are designed well and have a lot of love and hard work put into them from the developers, rather than just having a big budget put into them while recycling nothing but derivative gameplay elements that we've already seen thousands of times in the past. For that, I believe that when people look back on this generation a few years down the line when current graphics and production values begin to become outdated, they'll see that most of the big-name titles on HD consoles haven't aged well at all and only got by through impressive visuals for the time and such, whereas most good Wii games are still good because they actually had real effort put into their gameplay mechanics rather than just trying to impress people purely with good graphics. Really, most of those games that offer up high production values are actually pretty shallow games when you look beyond that, IMO.

Spark Of Spirit

Yeah, I've played through NSMBWii 4 times so far in total all the way through since I got it.

The first time by myself took me... 8 hours or so? To 100%. It was a great experience. I then played it with a friend of mine co-op and it was like a totally different game compensating for each others play styles and it was really rewarding reaching the end game as a team. Then I played it with my friend and his two nieces and it again was a totally different game. Because they kept rushing ahead or falling behind, the game was like 20 times harder, but frantic and hilarious. Then I played it myself just for fun. Now after so much time away from it,  I'm thinking about another playthrough.

The first playthrough alone was longer than many games this gen, but all the other things just added that much to it making it one of the best experiences for me this gen.
"The world will never starve for want of wonders, but for want of wonder." - G.K. Chesterton

Rosalinas Spare Wand

I don't think there's ever been a single time I played co-op NSMBWii without the game breaking down to who screws over who. People love stealing power ups, throwing you into hazards, or using your head as leverage to get to the endpoint. It's the ultimate in Nintendo in-game trolling antics.

I wish I had bought Trauma Team when it was 15 bucks on clearance at Target, but I was really low on cash at the time and couldn't buy it up. Next time I came back, it was gone and now Target's clearance section is filled with random iPod accessories and leftover PS2 games.

talonmalon333

The art style is bland? I hope people realize that it's just a better version of SM64's art style.

But I agree with all you guys, NSMBW is awesome.

Foggle


Eddy

NSMBW failed to hook me. And I've been playing Mario games since Super Mario Bros. Maybe there's something wrong with me or I didn't give it enough of a chance but, I dunno, I just couldn't get into it. I'll try it again eventually.

Kirby's Return to Dream Land, though, is excellent. Also glad to see love for Silent Hill: Shattered Memories.

Let's see if I got any Wii games I haven't seen mentioned here already...

WarioWare: Smooth Moves!
As far as party games go I think this one is my favorite the Wii has to offer. It's always a blast to play with friends and it always gets a laugh out of everyone.

Super Smash Bros. Brawl
I guess this one just went without saying so it wasn't brought up? Anyway, yeah, Brawl rocks. I don't care what Melee fans say, Brawl is my favorite Smash game in the franchise.

Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Yes, it's a port of a game everyone has already played, but the Wii version of RE4 is, in my opinion, the definitive version of the game. The motion controls worked perfectly with Resident Evil 4 to the point where, if I didn't know any better, I would have sworn the game was originally made with the Wii in mind. Too bad Capcom followed it with the mediocre rail shooters instead of another RE4-like experience.

Animal Crossing: City Folk
Yeah, yeah, I'm not going to try to defend it. City Folk was a real lazy move by Nintendo changing next to nothing in the franchise. The city in the games namesake was so boring and half-assed you forgot about it half the time and it soon became obvious you just bought the same game you've played twice already. But you know what? I still enjoyed it. Animal Crossing is a good time waster.

Pokepark: Pikachu's Adventure
This game shouldn't be given any awards or appear on any top ten lists but I will say this: it's fun, it's cute, and I enjoy it.

AND THE WORST WII GAME EVER:
Ju-On: The Grudge: Haunted House Simulator
This game is bad. Really bad. Really, really bad. Probably the worst game I played this gen. I bought it originally as kind of a joke and because I'm a sucker for survival horror titles. I didn't expect it to be a five star game by any means but... wow. I was not ready for the mess of a game this is. It's something that kind of has to be played to understand how terrible it is. But the funny thing is, I can't bring myself to get rid of it. I think it's a game that's so obscure (why did they make it so many years after the movie was relevant?) and so bad that I feel like I have to keep it forever.

Foggle

Quote from: Eddy on February 02, 2012, 02:09:15 AM
AND THE WORST WII GAME EVER:
Ju-On: The Grudge: Haunted House Simulator
This game is bad. Really bad. Really, really bad. Probably the worst game I played this gen.
You should try Sneak King. Picked it up for 99 cents at Gamestop and... oh god why.

Spark Of Spirit

I kinda forgot about Smash Bros since it's sort of a love or hate thing, same as MKWii. Good choices, though.

As for worst Wii game? Well, I've definitely avoided diving into that mountain.
"The world will never starve for want of wonders, but for want of wonder." - G.K. Chesterton

Eddy

Quote from: Foggle on February 02, 2012, 11:06:29 AM
Quote from: Eddy on February 02, 2012, 02:09:15 AM
AND THE WORST WII GAME EVER:
Ju-On: The Grudge: Haunted House Simulator
This game is bad. Really bad. Really, really bad. Probably the worst game I played this gen.
You should try Sneak King. Picked it up for 99 cents at Gamestop and... oh god why.
Oh right, I forgot Sneak King. That one is right up there to.

Ugh.

Spark Of Spirit

Is anyone familiar with deBlob? I know the sequel is on like every system, but the first is Wii exclusive. Did anyone here play 'em?
"The world will never starve for want of wonders, but for want of wonder." - G.K. Chesterton

Rosalinas Spare Wand

I tried a demo at Wal-Mart once. It felt like a 3D version of World of Goo. I always meant to pick it up, but I just forgot over time.