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#1
Cartoon Network / Re: Is it time for Adult Swim ...
Last post by Dr. Insomniac - Today at 11:23:05 AMBut the problem is it doesn't really feel like it's for all-ages. Just nostalgic adults and maybe a few kids. There isn't anything for adults who want something new, or teenagers. What's on CN now that a 16-year-old would be interested in? Or a 25-year-old who wants more than reheated leftovers? Not even fitting leftovers since instead of getting the rights to some Bakshi movie or asking GKIDS for some anime films, CN is airing Kung Pow: Enter the Fist next Sunday? Seriously? Besides, if getting tons of kids to watch 20-to-30-year-old TV cartoons was an easy success story, networks would've happily done it ages ago instead of now when on-air TV is just rotting thanks to streaming.
It's similar to how bemused I am by all the MeTV Toons hype. I keep seeing people talk about it as if it's a gamechanger on TV instead of just a cute little retro channel, hearing them go "Yeah, Histeria's back on TV! Finally kids will have an E/I show to watch that isn't drivel!" or "They put Police Academy the Animated Series on network TV again!" Like are those guys serious?
It's similar to how bemused I am by all the MeTV Toons hype. I keep seeing people talk about it as if it's a gamechanger on TV instead of just a cute little retro channel, hearing them go "Yeah, Histeria's back on TV! Finally kids will have an E/I show to watch that isn't drivel!" or "They put Police Academy the Animated Series on network TV again!" Like are those guys serious?
#2
Cartoon Network / Re: Is it time for Adult Swim ...
Last post by Avaitor - Today at 10:52:43 AMSupposedly Michael Ouwleen wants to take Cartoon Network back to its roots as an all-ages channel, ie not exactly for kids, but it feels like he's doing this by prioritizing [as] and phasing out CN as much as he can. Either every new show planned for CN is being pushed back or moved to either [as] or Max, to the point that more and more of CN's daytime schedule is going to older series.
And I don't mind slots for older series, that's always been a part of Cartoon Network's DNA, but a big part of the channel's appeal during the Powerhouse era was that its originals could work for basically every demographic. Shows like Courage are just as entertaining now as they were as a kid, why can't we get more series like that or even Adventure Time or Gumball?
And I don't mind slots for older series, that's always been a part of Cartoon Network's DNA, but a big part of the channel's appeal during the Powerhouse era was that its originals could work for basically every demographic. Shows like Courage are just as entertaining now as they were as a kid, why can't we get more series like that or even Adventure Time or Gumball?
#3
General Animation Discussion / Re: MeTV Toons
Last post by Daikun - May 29, 2024, 11:15:16 PM
#4
Cartoon Network / Re: Is it time for Adult Swim ...
Last post by Dr. Insomniac - May 29, 2024, 03:41:22 PMI guess on the plus side, it hearkens back to whenever networks like Disney Channel would just air whatever random movie they had in their backlog in the 90s. But that was because they had a lack of direction, not out of any intentional aim. It's no coincidence that Nick and Disney narrowing their imports and licensed shows happened around the time they found more success.
And as a whole, ACME Night, Checkered Past, Toonami Rewind, while the appeal to nostalgia is nice on a surface level, they all reek of CN struggling to buy time and desperately hoping that going "Remember this old show you watched as a kid?! Please pay attention to this!" can keep them afloat. But it all reeks of stagnancy instead of a direction. Even CN Real, and we can all say a lot of awful things about CN Real, that still felt like a direction. It was an awful path, but it was still the network pushing itself somewhere. While the current course appears to be turtling up and hoping for the best.
And as a whole, ACME Night, Checkered Past, Toonami Rewind, while the appeal to nostalgia is nice on a surface level, they all reek of CN struggling to buy time and desperately hoping that going "Remember this old show you watched as a kid?! Please pay attention to this!" can keep them afloat. But it all reeks of stagnancy instead of a direction. Even CN Real, and we can all say a lot of awful things about CN Real, that still felt like a direction. It was an awful path, but it was still the network pushing itself somewhere. While the current course appears to be turtling up and hoping for the best.
#5
General Animation Discussion / Re: MeTV Toons
Last post by Daxdiv - May 29, 2024, 02:00:40 PMHere's their launch line up schedule Looks pretty solid all things considering.
#6
Cartoon Network / Re: Is it time for Adult Swim ...
Last post by Avaitor - May 29, 2024, 12:13:27 PMAcme Night has been a weird spot for CN/[as]. It was initially supposed to be a block meant for families, and it just became a dumping ground for whatever movies they could get the rights to or the occasional Futurama or Samurai Jack marathon.
#7
Cartoon Network / Re: Is it time for Adult Swim ...
Last post by Dr. Insomniac - May 28, 2024, 07:24:17 PM
I haven't been paying attention to ACME Night, but I noticed a few days ago they were airing the 1992 Buffy the Vampire Slayer movie, and that led me to a wormhole showing just how unfocused their movie selection was, such as the example above. I don't normally care all that much about CN's branding, but it's hard not to think how sloppy it's gotten. Just the imagery of all these kids' movies like Charlie and the Chocolate Factory and Elf with the Adult Swim logo on the bottom right is hilarious.
#8
Vidja Games / Re: What Are You Currently Pla...
Last post by Mustang - May 25, 2024, 08:56:42 PMSince I've bailed on Rise of the Ronin (I've bailed on quite a lot this year so far). Just trying to find some smaller games to fit in between these large games I tend to play. Of the ones I've found more fitting to me at the moment
Afterimage
Dead Cells: Return to Castlevania
Odin Sphere
To be honest I don't know how to describe these games lol. Any other time I'd tell you they 2D side-scrollers, but this day in age where everything has a specific genre I'll just say 2D action (?). Dead Cells and Odin Sphere seems to have combat more to my liking whereas Afterimage has this 1-hit thing going for it. I bailed on Bloodstained because of this. Afterimage has a faster pace and I can get by with the character dashing. The other problem I have with Afterimage, as gorgeous looking as it is, the main character blends in with the background.
I'm not really looking to finish any of these right now. I'm mainly just scraping through the backlog to see what smaller games I have to fill in space until a big hitter I'm looking forward to is released or until I'm ready to move on to the next large game.
I don't usually play these type of games so my tolerance level has been up and down. As I said, I bailed on Bloodstained and Ninja Saviors: Return of the Warriors. For some reason I recall Ninja Saviors (Ninja Warriors) having combat like a beat em up style; Streets of Rage type. Here, it's weird. Like the characters gotta stand still to attack. I can't micro-step and attack or anything and that just messes me up. That's probably akin to more old school whereas Bloodstained, this 1-hit stuff, I just don't like it. And it's slow. If Castlevania is like this I'm out.
I did get a little too used to modern games where I'm told what my objective is. All these games, the pause menu is so bare and (Afterimage is loaded though) nothing is really explained to you. No objectives, a map that means squat to me.
Edit:
Just a little update on Dead Cells. I've been getting bodied lol. I'm assuming this is a rogue-like, but a 2D side-scroller? Anyway, I don't mind it, but good God, these furry things throwing smaller furry things at me as well as having to deal with a big machine thing shooting a grenade at me while his buddy slashing at me. This as well as probably something like a Hell Divers 2, and Among Us are the kind of in between type of games I'm sort of looking for.
Afterimage
Dead Cells: Return to Castlevania
Odin Sphere
To be honest I don't know how to describe these games lol. Any other time I'd tell you they 2D side-scrollers, but this day in age where everything has a specific genre I'll just say 2D action (?). Dead Cells and Odin Sphere seems to have combat more to my liking whereas Afterimage has this 1-hit thing going for it. I bailed on Bloodstained because of this. Afterimage has a faster pace and I can get by with the character dashing. The other problem I have with Afterimage, as gorgeous looking as it is, the main character blends in with the background.
I'm not really looking to finish any of these right now. I'm mainly just scraping through the backlog to see what smaller games I have to fill in space until a big hitter I'm looking forward to is released or until I'm ready to move on to the next large game.
I don't usually play these type of games so my tolerance level has been up and down. As I said, I bailed on Bloodstained and Ninja Saviors: Return of the Warriors. For some reason I recall Ninja Saviors (Ninja Warriors) having combat like a beat em up style; Streets of Rage type. Here, it's weird. Like the characters gotta stand still to attack. I can't micro-step and attack or anything and that just messes me up. That's probably akin to more old school whereas Bloodstained, this 1-hit stuff, I just don't like it. And it's slow. If Castlevania is like this I'm out.
I did get a little too used to modern games where I'm told what my objective is. All these games, the pause menu is so bare and (Afterimage is loaded though) nothing is really explained to you. No objectives, a map that means squat to me.
Edit:
Just a little update on Dead Cells. I've been getting bodied lol. I'm assuming this is a rogue-like, but a 2D side-scroller? Anyway, I don't mind it, but good God, these furry things throwing smaller furry things at me as well as having to deal with a big machine thing shooting a grenade at me while his buddy slashing at me. This as well as probably something like a Hell Divers 2, and Among Us are the kind of in between type of games I'm sort of looking for.
#9
Comics / Manga / Re: One Piece
Last post by Mustang - May 24, 2024, 05:15:25 PMI don't know what to make of these last few chapters. I know this explanation is supposed to be "shocking" but it's not hitting me. This is probably due to me skipping a lot of flashbacks back then, so a lot of this is either going over my head or just don't come off as detrimental. I suppose the only thing that did get a "reaction" out of me (if you call "heh" a reaction) is this latest chapter. I'm homing in on just the message itself, excluding the chaos going on around it
I will say damn you, Oda. These double spreads or whatever kills me. Dial it back a bit. You're going too crazy on them lol. I can just barely make out whats going on. Definitely gonna need to see this animated.
Spoiler
Holy Hell these old people
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I will say damn you, Oda. These double spreads or whatever kills me. Dial it back a bit. You're going too crazy on them lol. I can just barely make out whats going on. Definitely gonna need to see this animated.
#10
Cartoon Network / Re: Toonami
Last post by Dr. Insomniac - May 22, 2024, 05:31:12 PMGranted, I've been developing the theory that Crunchyroll themselves aren't that difficult to work with, and the real reason Toonami's had trouble getting shows from them is because they've struggled to give an answer to "Why would we let you air our biggest shows like JJK or Frieren run at 1 or 2 AM, at hours when most of the target audience for these shows is asleep? Why aren't you airing these at actual prime time hours?" Because if I were a Crunchyroll exec, I would have those questions.
Toonami scheduling, and CN scheduling in general, looks so below standards from the outside looking in. Why is MAWS, a show for kids that's more lighthearted than STAS that aired on weekday afternoons, premiering on midnights instead of at an earlier time?
Toonami scheduling, and CN scheduling in general, looks so below standards from the outside looking in. Why is MAWS, a show for kids that's more lighthearted than STAS that aired on weekday afternoons, premiering on midnights instead of at an earlier time?