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Title: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 30, 2012, 08:02:11 PM
I'm not kidding (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=468515)

Normally I would post this in the other thread, but a world of video games without Sega (even if its just part of it) is not something I want to be a part of. This is something that better not be true.
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Eddy on March 30, 2012, 08:07:40 PM
Whoa, what? I had heard Sega had a bunch of layoffs but I didn't hear anything about them closing up completely.

I hope this isn't true.
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Commode on March 30, 2012, 08:10:40 PM
Yeah, I heard about the layoffs and the cancelling of games(hopefully not JSR, please not JSR), but for them to close their doors would simply be shocking.
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Foggle on March 30, 2012, 08:15:39 PM
From what I've heard, Sega of America and Sega of Europe will be "streamlining" into one entity. This basically means that a ton of people will lose their jobs, but Sega will still continue to operate in the west.
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Rynnec on March 30, 2012, 08:17:06 PM
QuoteMan, this all feels like The Great Videogame Crash of 2012.

Which is obviously isn't, but still.

I just don't know what to say right now. Other than that, if this is true, I'm one step closer to shunning modern gaming.
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Foggle on March 30, 2012, 08:18:18 PM
Added more to my previous post, which will hopefully shed light on this matter.
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 30, 2012, 08:20:19 PM
Apparently SoA manages to live (http://twitter.com/#!/jimreilly/statuses/185896273071706112)

But I have to say this is easily the worst gaming rumor I have ever heard. I'm seriously considering stopping with the Wii-U then moving into retro gaming. If Sega or Nintendo leave gaming, I'm done.
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Foggle on March 30, 2012, 08:23:25 PM
It would take a lot for me to give up on modern gaming. Now, if Insomniac, Croteam, CD Projekt RED, Eidos Montreal, Sega, Nintendo, Platinum, Grasshopper, Valve, Gearbox, Rockstar, Atlus, Remedy, and Flying Wild Hog all shut down, then yeah, I'd stop caring. ;)
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 30, 2012, 08:42:27 PM
It's different for me. Without Sega or Nintendo my interest just wouldn't be there anymore. They basically made gaming what it is when it was almost gone.

They're a whole other level of important that represent a time in gaming where everything wasn't run by tremendously dumb budgets, throwaway branding, disc locked content, and didn't look down on creative ideas. Them leaving is the equivalent of the industry saying that the mentality behind that has no room in the industry that they basically built.

No sir, I don't like it.
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 30, 2012, 08:57:40 PM
Sega finally makes a statement to end this mess (http://www.joystiq.com/2012/03/30/sega-canceling-games-cutting-jobs-in-us-and-europe-to-restructu/)

QuoteDue to the challenging economic climate and significant changes within the interactive gaming industry, SEGA has made the decision to consolidate its publishing business in order to focus on developing digital content and driving its existing IP such as Sonic the Hedgehog, Total War, Football Manager and the Aliens franchise. This realignment of the business around existing and digital IP is a necessity to ensure that SEGA continues to invest and enhance its digital business offering, whilst reducing its reliance on traditional packaged goods.

As a result of the SEGA Sammy Board decision to consolidate the business, many of our internal functions will be re-structured and this could result in a number of redundancies within the publishing business across the Western organisation. The company will be entering into a re-structure phase to reflect the unprecedented change in our industry and to move the company forward appropriately.

The changes will position SEGA as a content led organisation, maximising sales with a strong and balanced IP portfolio across both packaged and digital distribution
. The management team are confident that the proposed restructure will benefit the company and make it fit for purpose within the changing nature of the industry over the coming years.
So they're focusing on downloadable games and those four franchises mainly from now on.

I'm sure Anarchy Reigns and Rhythm Thief are still coming, but after that... Who knows?
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Foggle on March 30, 2012, 09:01:40 PM
I imagine they'll focus on more franchises than just those (in Japan, at least). That statement was in the GameInformer article I linked earlier btw.
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on March 30, 2012, 09:13:45 PM
I wonder what this means for PSO2? The Vita version is most certainly dead after this news, but I wonder if the main PC version is still on its way?

Really anything after Anarchy Reigns and Rhythm Thief is like a complete mystery.
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Foggle on March 30, 2012, 09:15:49 PM
PSO2 is going to be F2P on both PC and Vita. They just announced that a couple days ago, I think.

Hopefully microtransactions out the ass will help get Sega back on track.
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: GaryPotter on March 31, 2012, 01:55:06 PM
I guess the Yakuza franchise is dead. Too bad.
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Foggle on March 31, 2012, 01:55:51 PM
Quote from: GaryPotter on March 31, 2012, 01:55:06 PM
I guess the Yakuza franchise is dead. Too bad.
:cry:
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: gunswordfist on April 01, 2012, 02:16:51 AM
Quote from: Foggle on March 30, 2012, 08:23:25 PM
It would take a lot for me to give up on modern gaming. Now, if Insomniac, Croteam, CD Projekt RED, Eidos Montreal, Sega, Nintendo, Platinum, Grasshopper, Valve, Gearbox, Rockstar, Atlus, Remedy, and Flying Wild Hog all shut down, then yeah, I'd stop caring. ;)
Nope, still wouldn't be enough for me.

I hate how after Sega is getting Sonic in order and is putting JSR on XBLA, massive layoffs have to happen.
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on April 01, 2012, 11:19:33 AM
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 01, 2012, 02:16:51 AM
Quote from: Foggle on March 30, 2012, 08:23:25 PM
It would take a lot for me to give up on modern gaming. Now, if Insomniac, Croteam, CD Projekt RED, Eidos Montreal, Sega, Nintendo, Platinum, Grasshopper, Valve, Gearbox, Rockstar, Atlus, Remedy, and Flying Wild Hog all shut down, then yeah, I'd stop caring. ;)
Nope, still wouldn't be enough for me.

I hate how after Sega is getting Sonic in order and is putting JSR on XBLA, massive layoffs have to happen.
I agree, it really is a shame considering how much Sega has improved since the Sammy buy-out. I hope all those people land on their feet and that Sega can go back to producing new stuff in a few years.

But until then, at least we get some great new re-releases of classics and great new Sonic games;
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: gunswordfist on April 01, 2012, 05:47:05 PM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on April 01, 2012, 11:19:33 AM
Quote from: gunswordfist on April 01, 2012, 02:16:51 AM
Quote from: Foggle on March 30, 2012, 08:23:25 PM
It would take a lot for me to give up on modern gaming. Now, if Insomniac, Croteam, CD Projekt RED, Eidos Montreal, Sega, Nintendo, Platinum, Grasshopper, Valve, Gearbox, Rockstar, Atlus, Remedy, and Flying Wild Hog all shut down, then yeah, I'd stop caring. ;)
Nope, still wouldn't be enough for me.

I hate how after Sega is getting Sonic in order and is putting JSR on XBLA, massive layoffs have to happen.
I agree, it really is a shame considering how much Sega has improved since the Sammy buy-out. I hope all those people land on their feet and that Sega can go back to producing new stuff in a few years.

But until then, at least we get some great new re-releases of classics and great new Sonic games;
I hope all of them get back on their feet as well.

I can honestly live with them doing little new IPs if they do it smart and don't just give us 5 franchises or whatever - give us sequels, remakes and releases we want with the occassional new IP and bring classic Sonic back again.
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 03, 2012, 12:44:48 AM
Again! (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=476625)

Next gen is going to be a bloodbath, I'm telling you.
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Rynnec on June 03, 2012, 01:00:17 AM
Quote from: Rynnec on March 30, 2012, 08:17:06 PM
I'm one step closer to shunning modern gaming.

Another step closer. Another step closer.
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Foggle on June 03, 2012, 01:32:42 AM
waitwaitwaitwaitwaitwait

No more AAA games? Does that mean no more Sonic? No more Yakuza? No Bayonetta 2? :cry: :cry: :cry:
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: gunswordfist on June 03, 2012, 02:09:08 AM
This only goes for Sega Europe right?....right?
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Rosalinas Spare Wand on June 03, 2012, 03:29:11 AM
Well that might explain why Anarchy Reigns has suddenly gone into limbo with its western release.

Personally, I just ordered Valkyria Chronicles 3 and I might do the same with Max Anarchy if it ends up Japan Only. I am hoping they don't step out of traditional gaming but I can't say they're offering me much else besides those games. It's such a shame they've come to consider these options especially since it seemed like they were doing quite well in the last few years. Didn't Generations have some of the highest sales for a Sonic game in years?
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Foggle on June 03, 2012, 10:35:50 AM
I already ordered Max Anarchy and the OST from Japan. If I'm lucky, I'll also be able to grab VC 3 by year's end.
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Kiddington on June 04, 2012, 12:18:55 AM
Is the notion that Nintendo just buy Sega that ridiculous, or at least the rights to their important properties? In any reality is that possible, or is this just a pipe dream?

There are franchises here that are very much worth saving, and if Sega isn't going to keep them alive, somebody has to.
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 04, 2012, 12:26:27 AM
If Sega ever got so low, Nintendo would scoop up Sonic faster than the little guy can run. But I doubt they would try for anything else. It's mainly Sonic they would want.























... Though Ristar would be cool, too...
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Rosalinas Spare Wand on June 04, 2012, 02:50:02 PM
In a creative sense, Sega has a number of underutilized IPs that could stand to be rescued and given proper homes should they ever go under. In an economic one, Sonic is the only one actually worth saving since it prints money regardless of quality.

It's exactly the reason they call their games Sonic & Sega All-Stars instead of just Sega All-Stars.
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Foggle on June 04, 2012, 02:57:17 PM
Quote from: Rosalinas Spare Wand on June 04, 2012, 02:50:02 PM
In a creative sense, Sega has a number of underutilized IPs that could stand to be rescued and given proper homes should they ever go under. In an economic one, Sonic is the only one actually worth saving since it prints money regardless of quality.
Don't forget Football Manager and Total War.
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Foggle on June 19, 2012, 01:12:44 PM
QuoteThe cut off date worldwide has been set for February 2013 11 years after Sega Dreamcast was officially discontinued.

The cut-off date in Japan is even earlier. Yakuza 5 will be the final SEGA 3rd party console release.
I'm not sure as to the validity of this statement, but DAMN. There's absolutely no chance of Yakuza 5 getting translated now... :cry:
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 19, 2012, 03:55:11 PM
So sad that Sega isn't doing so hot. And they were finally turning it around from their low point of late last gen and early this gen.
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Rosalinas Spare Wand on June 19, 2012, 04:32:18 PM
So I assume the digital direction is real based on this (http://www.siliconera.com/2012/06/18/valkyria-duel-revealed-as-a-browsersmartphone-card-game/) just being announced.

Such a shame to see a promising new series being reduced to this so quickly.
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 28, 2012, 06:42:25 PM
Sega Europe is being gutted (http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=480406)
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Foggle on June 28, 2012, 06:57:40 PM
Huh, Yakuza isn't a AAA IP? It's their top seller in Japan. Maybe they were just talking about English games...
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 28, 2012, 07:02:23 PM
They meant worldwide. Those four IPs are the best consistent sellers all over the world, not just in one territory.

What this means is that Sega needs to step up their back-catalog game. That's right, put the Saturn, Sega CD, 32x, and Dreamcast libraries out there as well as TONS more Master System on the download services. This is close to free money or them, and they have so much just sitting there unused. At the very least release them on the Wii-U virtual console and on PC, retro games sell very well there.

Heck, maybe they'll let Atlus or XSeed publish Yakuza 5, so it won't be a total loss.
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: gunswordfist on June 28, 2012, 07:44:49 PM
I feel stupid for asking for a Streets Of Rage Remake remake today. :unimpressed:

I went to see them release Crusader Of Centy, all the 2D Shinobi that aren't on XBLA yet and Wonderboy In Shinobi World (That's what it's called, right?)
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on June 28, 2012, 07:47:34 PM
Alex Kidd In Shinobi World.
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: gunswordfist on June 29, 2012, 08:07:57 AM
Shit  :D Well I've never played it and only heard about it once years ago :sweat:
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Spark Of Spirit on December 11, 2012, 12:25:39 AM
Strange addition to this rumor (http://board.sonicstadium.org/topic/14754-hiphopgamer-hears-from-e3-reps-nintendo-has-considered-purchasing-sega/)

That would be awkward.
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: Daikun on December 11, 2012, 04:56:27 AM
Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on December 11, 2012, 12:25:39 AMStrange addition to this rumor (http://board.sonicstadium.org/topic/14754-hiphopgamer-hears-from-e3-reps-nintendo-has-considered-purchasing-sega/)

That would be awkward.

Awkward? More like awesome.

I know it's not gonna happen (it would be like Marvel and DC merging--sounds great, but NO WAY is it happening), but if it involves getting Sonic out of Sega's hands (let's face it; they've been sucking at it for a loooooong time) and bringing their older, lesser-used properties back, I'd be all for it.
Title: Re: THIS BETTER BE A RUMOR
Post by: gunswordfist on December 11, 2012, 11:46:33 AM
This better be a rumor.