Ace Attorney

Started by talonmalon333, June 30, 2015, 07:31:52 PM

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Spark Of Spirit

Yep, it went on much too long. I really liked the rest of the game, but the end of AAI was much too long. Unfortunately I hear the sequel was much better. Which hurts worse since we never got it translated over here.

I still think the circus case is worse.
"The world will never starve for want of wonders, but for want of wonder." - G.K. Chesterton

talonmalon333

The circus case was certainly worse. But it was just a regular case, so I can't say I was particularly disappointed by it. It was a weak, but harmless, mid game case. The final case in Investigations was meant to be the finale. The final cases in every prior game were always the best parts of those games. And after the cliffhangers in the game's penultimate case I was really looking forward to the end. Yew was a great villain and I cared a lot about the Yatagarasu stuff. But then, in the final case, once the confrontation against Yew finally arrived... it was over so quickly, and she basically exited the story. The character who then was the "final boss" basically just walked into the plot at the end and refused to leave it. This was the only time in the series where the final confrontation went on for so long that I was actually taken out of the game to ask myself "When will this be over?".

Peanutbutter

The ending went on longer than it really needed to, but I thought the end of the Smuggler Arc was good. All the characters including even Gumshoe and Larry had great moments, and it was built up through the entire game that there had to be someone really powerful to head an international ring like that. It made sense that it was headed by a corrupt ambassador. Which in turn gave way to a funny Lethal Weapon 2 reference.


Hopefully, the Edgeworth sequel will get a digital release at some point.

talonmalon333

Quote from: Peanutbutter on July 15, 2015, 07:35:27 PM
The ending went on longer than it really needed to, but I thought the end of the Smuggler Arc was good. All the characters including even Gumshoe and Larry had great moments, and it was built up through the entire game that there had to be someone really powerful to head an international ring like that. It made sense that it was headed by a corrupt ambassador. Which in turn gave way to a funny Lethal Weapon 2 reference.

I don't think the Smuggling Ring was really the heart of the story, though. It was important, but not as much as all the Yatagarasu bits. Plus, the game had already given a name to the leader, before a plot twist revealed that it was actually the ambassador. And, like I said before, the ambassador had no characterization all throughout the case, so when he was revealed as the mastermind behind everything, I didn't care. Didn't help that the confrontation with him went on for way too long, and that the characters were just standing in that hallway the whole time. I feel like the case would have been substantially better if they kept the attention on Shih-Na as the villain throughout and continued to push her as something above the Yatagarasu and even the Smuggling Ring.

Investigations was the first game in the series, other than Trials and Tribulations, that gives you a personal grudge against the main villain going into its final case, so I really feel like it was a missed opportunity that the game didn't capitalize on that. I'm not totally sure what they should have done, I just think what they did do wasn't the right direction. But that still doesn't fully take away the strength of the game's penultimate case.

Quote from: Peanutbutter on July 15, 2015, 07:35:27 PMHopefully, the Edgeworth sequel will get a digital release at some point.

I know they were considering making a third Edgeworth game. If they go through with that, I suspect the second game will get a digital release around when that game ever gets released.

Spark Of Spirit

I think a third Edgeworth game will depend on how the current spin-off does in Japan. They know there's demand for a third Edgeworth game and we just recently got the newest AA game last year, so if the spin-off does alright instead of amazing, it might be the next up.
"The world will never starve for want of wonders, but for want of wonder." - G.K. Chesterton

talonmalon333

Current spin-off?

Also, what do you mean in saying we might get the second Edgeworth game if the current spin-off does alright rather than amazing?

Spark Of Spirit

I'm talking about the new game that takes place in the past.


Trailer

If it does amazing, I bet we'll be getting new sequels from this before we get a new Edgeworth game. Personally, I want a new Edgeworth game more. Dual Destinies was enough to satiate my AA craving for a while. Now I could go for more Edgeworth.
"The world will never starve for want of wonders, but for want of wonder." - G.K. Chesterton

talonmalon333

I knew about that game. But it isn't really a spin-off, is it?

Spark Of Spirit

Like Yakuza Kenzan is. It's the original formula and a brand new setting. As opposed to the Edgeworth spin-off style of new formula in a familiar setting.
"The world will never starve for want of wonders, but for want of wonder." - G.K. Chesterton

talonmalon333

Quote from: Spark Of Spirit on July 16, 2015, 09:12:58 PM
Like Yakuza Kenzan is. It's the original formula and a brand new setting. As opposed to the Edgeworth spin-off style of new formula in a familiar setting.

Sounds like the Metal Gear Solid 3 of Ace Attorney. :P

Foggle

Kenzan isn't canon to the main Yakuza series, though.

talonmalon333

Hopefully we didn't spoil any of the games for you, Foggle. I'm not sure how much of this thread you've been reading.

Foggle

Quote from: talonmalon333 on July 16, 2015, 11:51:04 PM
Hopefully we didn't spoil any of the games for you, Foggle. I'm not sure how much of this thread you've been reading.
Nothing that looks spoilery. ;)

Spark Of Spirit

Quote from: Foggle on July 16, 2015, 11:48:28 PM
Kenzan isn't canon to the main Yakuza series, though.
Unless Watson is a little girl in the main series canon, I'm pretty sure this can go either way.

Not like it advances the main story or anything anyway.
"The world will never starve for want of wonders, but for want of wonder." - G.K. Chesterton

talonmalon333

This will have spoilers, so watch out. :P

In Apollo Justice, did they ever make sense as to why Wright willingly used forged evidence in the game's opening case? I'm not talking about the instance in the past when he accidentally used it and lost his badge in the process. I mean when he basically tricked Apollo into winning a case using fake evidence. Everything else about that game's story and its mysteries were made sense of at some point, but I still don't know why he did this and it just seemed to clash with everything he and Edgeworth stand for.