Sonic The Hedgehog

Spark Of Spirit · October 08, 2011, 12:03:55 AM

I can see your point; They don't really feel much like breaks to me, but I get what you mean. The levels are fairly long in 1, so its a good point sort of like how Heroes used the same art and everything but just gave the zone a different name instead of calling it act 2.

But SA2's Sonic levels definitely could have used multiple acts. Metal Harbor is over in about 2 minutes flat, which is like one act of Green Hill. Crazy Gadget's space blocks are kind of crammed in at level's end, and the other levels just needed more. Most levels never ran longer than 2-3 minutes, which is the length of about 1 act in the old games.

Not like it really matters anymore.

Dr. Ensatsu-ken · October 08, 2011, 12:28:13 AM

Star Light Zone is pretty fun since it gives you a lot of opportunities to get Sonic up to his full speed and breeze through the level. It does feel a bit too easy for being one of the later zones in the game, though. I honestly had a harder time with Labrynth Zone than this one.

gunswordfist · October 09, 2011, 12:29:14 AM

Hmmm, I think I might like how Sonic 4 does Acts

Spark Of Spirit · October 09, 2011, 08:29:14 PM

Quote from: Ensatsu-ken on October 08, 2011, 12:28:13 AM
Star Light Zone is pretty fun since it gives you a lot of opportunities to get Sonic up to his full speed and breeze through the level. It does feel a bit too easy for being one of the later zones in the game, though. I honestly had a harder time with Labrynth Zone than this one.

Yeah, it's not really all that hard, but it sure is a great zone. They probably should have put it before Labyrinth, but I do like treating it as a quick break after almost drowning and before walking into hell.

(That said, Scrap Brain Zone is pretty great)

gunswordfist · October 10, 2011, 07:11:21 AM

Oh yeah...I've been meaning to ask this for like a year or probably more. Water levels in Sonic, should they never be put in? I think the fans don't really complain about them because they've been there since the beginning. If water levels first appeared in Sonic 2, there'd be angry mobs because of it. With that said, I'm actually on the fence on this. Especially since I love Hydrocity and even Aquatic Ruins.

Spark Of Spirit · October 10, 2011, 01:43:35 PM

Well, between the first water level in a main Sonic game since S3&K was Aquarium Park, one of the very best Sonic levels. So I don't think they should be removed.

Labyrinth's problem was that the levels were too long and Aquatic Ruin was that the water parts were just not very good. Yet, Hydrocity and Aquarium Park were awesome and make me want more water levels in Sonic games.

Dr. Ensatsu-ken · October 10, 2011, 03:45:55 PM

Labrynth Zone's problem was that it felt really slow (which made it feel even longer than the other levels on top of already being too long as it was) just like Marble Zone....when you weren't in the water. Once you actually got into the water it became unbearably slow and while I don't mind that whole challenge of making Sonic have to breathe air bubbles to survive underwater, there wasn't much more to it than doing that and dodging spikes. There weren't really any interesting level design elements in their to make up for the greatly reduced speed.

Spark Of Spirit · October 10, 2011, 03:57:43 PM

And the boss is just awful.

Most Robotnik boss fights are at least decent to me, but that one and the one from Metropolis ones just annoy me.

Dr. Ensatsu-ken · October 10, 2011, 04:05:19 PM

I don't even consider that a boss fight. While its technically possible to defeat Robotnik in that fight, its impractical because its not really a fight to begin with. Its just a series of obstacles for Sonic to get through before he drowns. Its a pretty lame and uncreative way to end an already bland zone.

talonmalon333 · October 10, 2011, 04:35:09 PM

Actually, I'd say Sonic 1 as a whole was slower then it's sequels, even if it was insanely fast when it came out. It's still good, but Sonic's at his best when he combines speed and platforming.

gunswordfist · October 10, 2011, 05:43:24 PM

What the fuck is Aquarium Park?

Anyway, we can all agree that Labryth Zone isn't a good level.

Foggle · October 10, 2011, 07:19:58 PM

Sonic Generations is coming to PC! It's only 30 bucks; 25 if you pre-order at Green Man Gaming.

Looks like Sega just made a sale!

Avaitor · October 10, 2011, 07:58:11 PM

To be honest, I can't really imagine playing a game like Sonic on a PC. It seems like a lot of the fun would be removed when you get rid of the controller.

I couldn't even enjoy Mega Collection Plus on the X-Box that much, since that controller was not built for Sonic.

Foggle · October 10, 2011, 08:04:52 PM

Who said anything about getting rid of the controller? I've got a wired 360 gamepad right here next to me. Works great for PC games.

Avaitor · October 10, 2011, 08:20:35 PM

haha, fair enough.

I may have to try that myself, actually.

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