Comic Book Movies

[Avaitor]

I still say that unless Age of Ultron and Ant-Man suck, Phase 2 will remain superior to the first.

And honestly, it's starting to seem that it's possibility for either, if not even both, but I'm still keeping my excitement alive for them.

[Dr. Ensatsu-ken]

The general consensus on AOU so far seems to be that it's good but not as good as the first movie. I haven't seen many people say that it outright sucks.

[Avaitor]

I haven't really heard too many people say that either, but there are some serious criticisms that have been hinted at, which I've yet to fully look up. I want to go in as blind as possible.

[Spark Of Spirit]

Well, since no one brought up any criticisms for the first one when it came out, at this point I can only consider the ones for the second being related to high expectations. I mean, anyone here should remember the whole "Whedon > Cameron" idiocy when the first movie came out.

As someone who is expecting an entertaining action flick like the first, I'm not sure how to be disappointed.

[Foggle]

I've checked out a number of reviews, and surprisingly few of them seem to be truly positive or negative; most of them are just kind of lukewarm, I'm finding. The major criticism seems to be that the story is poorly told/stupid/makes no sense, with praise going to the action scenes and character interactions.

[Spark Of Spirit]

Not like it's completely inconceivable for Whedon to drop the ball, however. He's done it before in mediums other than film. However, I do find people tend to give him a pass a lot of the time or overlook when he messes up as I mentioned before with the overpraise the first Avengers movie got. I'm probably the harshest critic of Whedon on this site and am pretty hard on his screw-ups so I'd probably be more inclined to agree with flaws pointed out in the movie.

But I'll only being going into this expecting an entertaining movie like I did last time. I trust he can deliver on that front.

Either way, he's not going to be back for Infinity War, so whatever.

[Avaitor]

Similar to Whedon>Cameron arguments, I've already heard Russos>Whedon go around. Which is pretty premature, to say the least.

[Spark Of Spirit]

Now, see, as much as I really enjoyed Winter Soldier, that's far too early to say. I don't know why people are so quick to make such sweeping generalizations of people's careers so quickly.

[Avaitor]

Whedon is hella problematic, I get it. He has said and written in some stupid-ass shit in the past. But at least he has more than one movie and a handful of television directing credits under his belt.

I'm sure that they'll continue to do fine with their movies, but it seems really weird to consider the Russo brothers to be the MCU's saviors.

[Spark Of Spirit]

First it was Favreau, then Whedon, then the Russos, and it will probably end up being Gunn after that.

Just let them do their jobs and hope for the best. The MCU does not rely on the vision of one person.

[Avaitor]

First it was Favreau, then Whedon, then the Russos, and it will probably end up being Gunn after that.

Just let them do their jobs and hope for the best. The MCU does not rely on the vision of one person.

Yep.

Especially because if any one person is responsible, it's probably Feige.

[Dr. Ensatsu-ken]

To be honest, the story for the first movie wasn't exactly gold, either. Nobody criticized it because they were too blinded by spectacle at the time since nobody had really seen a movie like this before. But really, Loki was barely a threat by the third act, and the whole story was just a way to write around great set-piece moments. Other than that, it basically just boils down to teamwork is good, fighting amongst each other is bad. It's a basic moral with a very flat story. The reason everyone ignored that, though, was because the action was awesome and the characters were so well-acted. The movie had a great sense of humor and felt like a big deal. No matter what, the second movie can't capture that feeling again, so despite high expectations, of course people will be more prepared to actually critique it, rather than just giving it a pass on everything like the first movie.

Anyways, I've listened to just a few reviews from reviewers who I've been following for years and have a lot of trust in, and they all seemed to find it to be a really fun movie, but not without its flaws. I have a feeling that it'll come off that way to me, as well. Once again, I'm that one ass-hole who actually really enjoyed Spider-Man 3, so I'm pretty sure that I can look past whatever flaws that this movie has if it's still really entertaining.

[Nel_Annette]

Would you believe it's 2015 and I've yet to see a single MCU movie? None of 'em. I want to marathon them all in order one weekend. Maybe when Age of Ultron makes it to Blu-ray I'll splurge and buy them all.

[Avaitor]

The official line-up of Civil War.

I was not expecting Ross to return.

[Spark Of Spirit]

*SPOILERS* FOR ULTRON

Audiences saddened that there won't be another new Avengers movie until 2018 can find comfort in the fact that Earth's Mightiest Heroes will be assembling far sooner than that — Marvel Studios has announced that the Avengers will be seen in full in next year's Captain America: Civil War.

In addition to Chris Evans and Robert Downey Jr.'s warring Captain America and Iron Man, the movie will also feature Scarlett Johansson's Black Widow, Anthony Mackie's Falcon, Paul Bettany's Vision, Don Cheadle's War Machine and Elizabeth Olsen's Scarlet Witch, the complete lineup of the team as things were left at the end of Avengers: Age of Ultron.

Additionally, Jeremy Renner's Hawkeye, Sebastian Stan's Bucky Barnes and Paul Rudd's Ant-Man will make appearances, with Chadwick Boseman debuting as T'Challa, the Black Panther.

Other familiar faces in the movie will include Emily VanCamp reprising her Winter Soldier role as Sharon Carter, Frank Grillo returning as Brock Rumlow and, perhaps surprisingly, William Hurt returning for the first time as The Incredible Hulk's Thunderbolt Ross.

Avengers: Civil War

So we're not getting a third Captain America movie.