Things That Bother You About Gaming

[Spark Of Spirit]

Lara Croft can't swim in the new Tomb Raider.

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[Dr. Ensatsu-ken]

So, they took out a key ability of the main character of a long-running series that she has been able to do just fine since her debut on the PS1? Brilliant.

Ryu can't swim in NG3, either, though to be fair that game only even has one section in which you can actually fall into the water.

Seriously, though, remember when it was a big thing in gaming to ADD new features and increase variety as to how you could play the game, rather than strip away elements that worked just fine in previous installments just so that the developers can be lazy and not design more interesting gameplay elements into their games? That seems to be the trend for modern games. They seem to be trying to go for the "less is more approach" but apparently they have no idea what that statement even means. Tomb Raider has always been a great adventure series for the variety of different ways in which you find yourself traversing your environment, and I remember from Tomb Raider 2 (the only one that I ever owned and played a decent amount of), that swimming was a big part of that game, and it worked just fine there. Giving of less of elements that worked in previous games is the exact same bull-shit that ruined NG3. How about the devs put in "less" scripted events and monotonous level design and instead "add" more player variety and freedom? Oh no, what a stupid suggestion of mine, that'd clearly be too much work and actually take talent to make.

[Rynnec]

Lara also has regenerating health too.

The thing that makes this hilarious is that the game is supposed to be a "survival" game.

[gunswordfist]

I HATE swimming in games and Lara's games are probably the ones that made me develop my hatred but if they have instant death water as an annoying obstacle then that's not too much better. Also, once I think about, no swimming will probably make the game even more annoyingly linear..so uh yeah...no.

[Spark Of Spirit]

As someone else put it:

Lara Croft can swim in a 1996 PlayStation game but can't in a 2013 Xbox 360/PlayStation 3 game. Can't wait to see what a trainwreck this will be.

It's weird how games get more expensive and have far bigger budgets, yet offer you less options and game to play in the process. This industry needs a lot of help.

They might as well just call it Uncharted 4 (but I think Drake can actually swim...) instead.

[gunswordfist]

I actually wouldn't mind if they found some other to explore besides swimming if they did it right...but this game sounds like Final Fantasy XIV: Lara Croft to me.

[Spark Of Spirit]

I actually really enjoy adventure games because they give you all the tools to scale the environment around you. When they give you less tools to use, that typically means they're restricting exploration in some capacity. And removing health also means there's no more risk and reward for doing anything outside the box and takes all tension out of risky combat situations.

If this game does well I'm going to be extremely surprised.

[gunswordfist]

Good point. I just really really hate swimming in games. I end up searching around a lot in water in Tomb Raider games anyway, though.

I'm a defender of regenerative health but it certainly has no place in a survival game.

[Spark Of Spirit]

I mean I had a feeling it was going to turn out this way in the first reveal, but I was hoping for a bit more from the final product.

[Foggle]

It's interesting that they actually decided to reboot Tomb Raider just when it was getting awesome again, instead of after, say, Angel of Darkness.

[gunswordfist]

I heard the last game, Underworld, was kind of underwhelming but yeah, there was no need to do a massive rehaul. I thought it was actually going to be great because I trusted these guys (it's the same team, right?). I wouldn't have mind a Tomb Raider with a story that made you care about more than one character (obviously Lara is who I'm talking about), not one that's in the way.

[Foggle]

So THQ made their own Humble Bundle. For less than $1 per game, you get Saints Row: The Third, Darksiders, Red Faction: Armageddon, Metro 2033, Company of Heroes, Company of Heroes: Opposing Fronts, and Company of Heroes: Tales of Valor, along with five OSTs. Part, or all if you so choose, of the money you pay goes to charity.

And people. Are fucking. Complaining about it. Because the games use Steam for DRM. Never mind that they're getting 7 fucking games and 5 fucking soundtracks for the price of a fucking paperback novel, part of that money goes toward helping sick kids. And yet they are fucking bitching about DRM.

This is why gamers suck, especially PC gamers. If you're one of the people crying about this shit, - and yes, that includes you "journalists" - fuck you. Throw your computer and consoles into a landfill, because you don't deserve them.

[Dr. Ensatsu-ken]

Wait, so let me get this straight....if you pay over the average price (basically about $5.45), you unlock 7 games and 5 soundtracks, or you can essentially lock all of that except for Saints Row: The Third for only $1, and by that we're talking about the actual full games, right?

And, a portion of that money you spend goes to charity (whatever portion you choose, at that), right?

And this is close to $200 worth of value if you were to buy it all normally, right?

And people are bitching about it?

Either there's some catch to this that I'm not seeing, or there are a shit-ton of gamers who are just flat-out insane.

BTW, If I ended up going for this deal in the limited time it'll be left up online, that means I can get the games from the Steam Store, and in that case just save them for until I get a better computer. Is that correct?

[Spark Of Spirit]

I don't think there is any group of people more self-entitled as a whole than gamers. They've really been spoiled by DLC games and Steam to the point where they don't even realize how lucky they are.

[Foggle]

there are a shit-ton of gamers who are just flat-out insane.

Yep.

BTW, If I ended up going for this deal in the limited time it'll be left up online, that means I can get the games from the Steam Store, and in that case just save them for until I get a better computer. Is that correct?

Yes, do it! They'll give you a code, which you can activate in your Steam account right away (but you don't have to download anything until later) with all 7 games. And make sure you pay above the average price, because Saints Row 3 is great.

I don't think there is any group of people more self-entitled as a whole than gamers. They've really been spoiled by DLC games and Steam to the point where they don't even realize how lucky they are.

That's the weird thing, though... these people are actually complaining ABOUT STEAM. I mean, yeah, it's a form of DRM, but it's easily the least terrible one out there, and anyone sane would find it hard to resist their sale prices. One of the reasons I prefer PC gaming is because of how cheap the games are (due to sales and stuff), and yet some people can't even be satisfied with that. I don't get it.